By MichaelJames

Mar 16, 2008 4:41pm

Obama’s Church Blames Media

This is the full response from Sen. Barack Obama’s church, Trinity United Church of Christ, to the media coverage of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s more inflammatory comments.

“AN ATTACK ON OUR SENIOR PASTOR AND THE HISTORY OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCH”:

Chicago, Ill. (March 15, 2008) — Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.

“Dr. Wright has preached 207,792 minutes on Sunday for the past 36 years at Trinity United Church of Christ. This does not include weekday worship services, revivals and preaching engagements across America and around the globe, to ecumenical and interfaith communities. It is an indictment on Dr. Wright’s ministerial legacy to present his global ministry within a 15- or 30-second sound bite,” said the Reverend Otis Moss III, pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ.

During the 36-year pastorate of Dr. Wright, Trinity United Church of Christ has grown from 87 to 8,000 members. It is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ (UCC) denomination.

“It saddens me to see news stories reporting such a caricature of a congregation that has been such a blessing to the UCC’s Wider Church mission,” said the Rev. John H. Thomas, UCC general minister and president, in a released statement. “ … It’s time for us to say ‘No’ to these attacks and declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends.”

Trinity United Church of Christ’s ministry is inclusive and global. The following ministries have been developed under Dr. Wright’s ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.

Moss added, “The African American Church was born out of the crucible of slavery and the legacy of prophetic African American preachers since slavery has been and continues to heal broken marginalized victims of social and economic injustices. This is an attack on the legacy of the African American Church which led and continues to lead the fight for human rights in America and around the world.”

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached the Christian tenet, “love thy neighbor as thyself.” Before Dr. King was murdered on April 4, 1968, he preached, “The 11 o’clock hour is the most segregated hour in America.” Forty years later, the African American Church community continues to face bomb threats, death threats, and their ministers’ characters are assassinated because they teach and preach prophetic social concerns for social justice. Sunday is still the most segregated hour in America.

- jpt

User Comments

I LOVE America! How can we Elect a President who Attends a church For 20years and says he never heard such HATE! Mr. Obama we are A Nation of very Smart People… Transparency I think Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please Save us from this Man Dear Lord!

Posted by: Reflective | March 16, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

I think the reporting has been very tame on this story. The MSM has gone out of their way giving Barack free media time and softball questions. I didn’t see anything like that for Hillary. Keith Olbermann tried to knock her out with his Special Comment, now he looks like a no-class fool.

Posted by: Vi | March 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

chickens come home to roost…
I don’t think you are real.

Posted by: dl | March 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Look, it still comes down to credibilty. And Obama has none….And TUCC has less…….Now TUCC wants to blame somebody else for their run-a-muck preacher? Lovely……

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Church or Pastor, it is important to judge the man Barak Obama and his values. Between remaining candidates who is preaching hope, togetherness, and unity it is only Obama who is going beyond party line, racial line and gender line to say let us get together and build a stronger America. Let us stop politicizing everything and recognize that Barak stands for America and he is the one who can unite (and not divide) the democratic party and the country.

Posted by: BKMC | March 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

I really do not understand this statement and this church and their views. On one hand they spew hatred and racism, on the other hand they preach human rights. I am sorry, but that is about as hypocrityal as you can be. I know of no other church that takes these two positions simultaneously, or tries to. I don’t buy it. Churches like this do more harm than good. They preach this hatred to the very young, which is the biggest sin of all. Our country has done much for the black man since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. Blacks have more opportunity here than any other country in the world. And this exists because of the white man, not in spite of him. I feel very sorry for all the young black children who buy into this garbage.

Posted by: Jim | March 16, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Where are the Kennedys now? Remember the “next JFK”? You don’t see them doing the talk show circuit and defending him.

Posted by: daryl | March 16, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Dear TUCC church,
“People who live in glasshouses should not throw stones”
The church attacked America and threw all kinds of stones at our society, so the media is just doing its job of examining your values, since a very prominent member of your congregation seeks the highest office in the very country that you hate.
It may be a good experience for the church to go through the biblical prescription of having “your works tried by fire”. Perhaps media “fire” will purge you of the racist dross.

Posted by: Paul St. Paul | March 16, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

A man is known by his enemies and his friends. I am known to have friends who also love the United States. I am known to have enemies who hate the United States. It can easily be extrapolated that I must love my country. If however I associate with those who hate the United States, it could easily be assumed that I have no love for it either.
I would not consider Obama to be a friend.

Posted by: jijalagi | March 16, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Judgment. Obama admittedly exercised poor judgment with regards to Rezko. Obama exercised poor judgment with regards to NAFTA-Gate. Now, Obama clearly has exercised poor judgment for almost 20 years by being associated with this pastor. If, as Obama claims, he had never ‘heard’ these types of hate speak, how could he call Pator Wright a close spiritual advisor and friend? Obama claims he was not in the pew for the famous post 9/11 sermon which decries America. My question for Mr. Obama, then, is this: Why were you not in church just 5 days after the the worst attack on this country since Pearl Harbor? Judgment. Not so good, Obama!

Posted by: Jd | March 16, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Ted,
Wishful thinking like Cunningham, where is he now?
Fear mongering did not work in 28+ states and it will not work for rest of the country!
America is Ready for Change!
America is Ready for Barak!
Why 72 hours let it go all the way to Nov, still you cannot change people’s mind with fear tactices! WE WANT CHANGE!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: RC | March 16, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Do you really expect me to believe that Sen. Obama and the other 8,500 members of that church were unaware of Pastor Wright’s travel with Anti-anything-that-walks-on-this-earth-that-is-not-black Mr. Farrakhan to the wonderful Dictator/Terrorist Col. Quadfi?…huh?….Obama’s $2,000 monthly payments to that church footed the bill for that tea time in Libya.

Posted by: letsgetitright | March 16, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

I do not care if people fight over race, but I find it very offensive to say “God XXXX America”, this goes beyond race. This is a question of patriotism.
Obama, I am ashamed you attend such a church where a pastor has said such words.

Posted by: GS | March 16, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Attack on their Pastor? The media is plaing his actual sermons. Wright is an anti-american racist, however because of our freedoms, he has the right to say whatever he likes. Obama however can’t pull the crazy uncle dodge. He has belonged to this church for over 20 years and it is not believable that Obama and his wife were not aware that their spiritual guidance was coming from an anti-american racist. I was caught up in the Obama thing, thinking we had a winner. Sadly I’ve come to the realization that someone associated with this type of organization can not be the leader of the free world.

Posted by: paul | March 16, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Here we are again at election time having to choose from the crew on a ship of fools. At the end of eight years of monkey man, the great American two party system presents absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Richard | March 16, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

It is better to have McCain in the white house than a traitor.

Posted by: GS | March 16, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Melanie Morgan, Sean Hannity and others have been on this story for over a year, at least! Thank God the MSM is finally reporting on it.
And as others have opined, how can Obama tell us he has such great judgment if he’d associate with a guy like this for 20 years!
The pastor and his church have every right to say anything. But how can Obama, who wants to preside over the entire country, be indoctrinated by such an ethnocentric bigot and still think he can be an effective leader of ALL Americans? He’s been taught for years to look out for blacks, and blacks alone.

Posted by: Missy5537 | March 16, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

well, sad but true..
the way it looks now, we can say “hello” to another four years of a Republican rule.
In no way will I vote for Obama. I will go with McCain if Obama wins the nomination. As will thousands of others.
As for the Obama supporters. All those 18-25 year old involving themselves for the first time in politics will just stay home and perhaps his whole contingency. There will be anger. People will take to the streets. It won’t be pretty.
So, all hail President McCain.

Posted by: letsgetitright | March 16, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Does the UCC embrace Farrakhan too? How long have his chickens been roosting???
I bet for quite some time now.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 16, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Um, isn’t having an all black church kind of racist in itself??
They can try and spin however they want. They’re a church that spreads racism & hatred. Period.
NOBama08

Posted by: BC | March 16, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

obama is done. Its very saddening to see all the hopes i had on him and for our country crumble like this. I really dont think he can recover from the wright controversy. I think only way things can work now is obama being Hillarys VP. It will be hell of a long time before I get enthusiasm in politics again.

Posted by: sandy | March 16, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

It comes down to blaming someone else. Well, birds of same feather flock together.

Posted by: Mark | March 16, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

So, Rev. Wright says this is just a media smear campaign and he really isn’t a “preacher of hate”. I guess the media just photographed a person who LOOKED like Rev. Wright saying “God Damn America.”
Those WERE Rev. Wright’s words and if Obama defends Rev. Wright he is defending Wright’s words.
All of this and Hillary’s problems are music to the ears of the McCain campaign. McCain has practically won the November election right now.

Posted by: marco123 | March 16, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Yesterday I researched info on this church. The media has the story wrong. Look beyond what the media is putting out and educate yoursleves.
While the economy goes in the tank we are attacking a church. What is wrong with the media?

Posted by: Mary | March 16, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Well said. Amen! Amen!! The right wing is again try to divide and conquer like they did with the election of Bush. We have 47 millions without healthcare, while sending $12B a month to Iraq for Cheney and Bush’s cronies to line up their pockets. We have economy that is down, housing down, everything down, and if that is not a curse for aggression by the right-wing while loosing sight of domestic issues, tell me what it is? Where is the right when McCain gets the endorsement of the radical and false TV envangelicals?

Posted by: john scott | March 16, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Give me a break. This is the biggest fairytale I know. This man preaches hate and its the medias; fault??
How dare he. How dare he.

Posted by: Chris | March 16, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Rev Wrights sermons have been on the net and available since he made that sermon.
I seen it months ago.
I could only use what mr obama has said and done himself.
he was the one that started running around telling everyone america needed united.
He is the one who kept saying in every speech Black/white Rich/poor, making the divide.
He is the one who started anything about race. he is the one who used race,
he is the one who said racist, first.
I think his plan was to divide and conquer.
He did that kind of thing with his whole campaign.
First he told you over and over, this is the problem, until you believed.
Then he told you over and over that together “We Can” until you believed.
Then he told you over and over “I can” until you believed.
using High pressure motivational speeches, Slogans, media. until you believed. all he said. throwing religion in and grabbing your hearts and minds. Heck, you did not even care about all the lies he was through out at you.
He didn’t know them, then it was exposed he did, So then he said he knew them. He knew some, now he says he didn’t know they were like that.
Goodness the wool was pulled down over tight.
Looks back, the biggest part of our economy did not collapse until he ran around screaming the sky is falling over and over again. Tying it up with pointing fingers, Naming names to blame it on. Until you believed, then every aspect of the economy started to prepare. Then the nose dive. Hook Line and sinker.
Poor Poor Mr Obama, he now says he has been taken wrong, he has been abused by the media, misunderstood, he didn’t know anything. Bingo….. Going for Sympathy votes now.
He will keep doing everything he can to take the eyes of the media and the public off himself. He will point more fingers, Blame more people.
Mr obama you got yourself into this, by your words, your actions your deeds and above all By your lies.

Posted by: seah | March 16, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Denis van Dam:
On the contrary, I think IBA did a great job to report the facts about Obama and his pastor, this is a better job than other media like MSNBC and CNN.
As far as I know, Clinton said Obama didn’t get as much media scrunty as her.
but she has never asked for media to “stop” reporting anything about her.
I know Obama etc. really want people to forget this as soon as possible.

Posted by: Victor | March 16, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

for those who quote the newsmax ariticle…as proof that Obama knew because he knew there was heated rhetoric in the sermons…
heated rhetoric is to those speeches as some of Fox News is to Rev Phelps.
They are different but you would want to distance yourself from either….and if someone was just about loud angry African ethnocentrism (and I am sure many would be offended by just that just as I am offended by Fox News)… that is one thing… it is another to …ugh…do what that “crazy angry sexist out of it self righteous and hypocritical” person was doing in those clips.
How many of you know what your minister does for half of every week for the past 20 years… he knew he was angry but this doesn’t congeal with Obama’s actions nuances or words.

Posted by: dl | March 16, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Basically, you are saying that because Obama has known this pastor for 20 years, Obama is anti-white and anti-American. Let’s not forget his mother was white and he was raised by his white grandparents. He is running for President. Are you suggesting he is running in order to destroy America and all the white people in it? This is crazy!!

Posted by: Gw | March 16, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

You can see how bad this is by the fact that no high level Democratic Leader has come forward to defend Obama. They are too afraid to step into the “stuff” created by Obama.

Posted by: g | March 16, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Inflammatory statements by anyone associated with a presidential candidate will be reported by the Media. The End.

Posted by: x32792 | March 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

The media did portray Trinity United Church of Christ unfairly by only showing a 30 second window of Pastor Wright’s sermon. He’s been a pastor for 36 years and is one of the most notable pastors in the country. We did not get a fair image of who he really is – a theological scholar and former US Marine who has devoted his entire life to serve others in need. If the media prides themselves on objective news, then they should document a full picture of Dr. Wright and his time at the church.

Posted by: California Girl | March 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Correct a typo – IBA -> ABC:
Denis van Dam:
On the contrary, I think ABC did a great job to report the facts about Obama and his pastor, this is a better job than other media like MSNBC and CNN.
As far as I know, Clinton said Obama didn’t get as much media scrunty as her.
but she has never asked for media to “stop” reporting anything about her.
I know Obama etc. really want people to forget this as soon as possible.

Posted by: Victor | March 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Finally, a piece on this story that restores a little perspective!!!

Posted by: foxisms | March 16, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

I wonder what the church thinks of the pastor’s gyrations on the pulpit.
No one is assassinating his character, he is doing it to himself.

Posted by: Joan | March 16, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Well said. Amen! Amen!! The right wing is again try to divide and conquer like they did with the election of Bush. We have 47 millions without healthcare, while sending $12B a month to Iraq for Cheney and Bush’s cronies to line up their pockets. We have economy that is down, housing down, everything down, and if that is not a curse for aggression by the right-wing while loosing sight of domestic issues, tell me what it is? Where is the right when McCain gets the endorsement of the radical and false TV envangelicals?

Posted by: john scott | March 16, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

The next thing you know, he’ll be defending Louis Farrakahn. Don’t forget Oprahma is a former ‘civil rights’ attorney; so he REALLY knows how to slice the baloney. I really enjoy reading the comments from people that ‘name call’ other commenters; as if that is going to affect or change them some way. When one cannot win an argument with facts and figures, resorting to name calling is all they have left to fight with. Grow up, you’re stupid is showing and we all know ‘ya can’t fix stupid’.

Posted by: TheRockofAges | March 16, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

as disgusted as I am by the reverends words…
I am more disgusted by some of the posts on here… Some of the posts make the reverend look better… If the Reverend “needs to be sent to Afghanistan” as one of you put… some of you need to drive him there…lol
The rest of us will fight for the America we want…without the slander and the racism and with people who listen to each other instead of ripping for the jugular with your words…and in so doing forgetting you can’t just feel your words…you need to know they are true.

Posted by: dl | March 16, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Are we still passing this around? Look you can not hold Obama to what his pastor says. That is so stupid. ALl you finger pointers here. Lets take a closer look at our own families for a moment. Who here does not have a racist relative that occasional will say things that embarrass or shame us. And do you all agree with every thing your preacher, pastor, or reverend says? It’s bad enough that we judge Pastor Wright for 36 years of service by 2 minutes of video clips, but to hold that against Obama is just plain stupid! All you patriotic fools are so blind and ignorant. May be we simply do not deserve Obama yet. May be we deserve a lieing cheating snake like Hilary or another Bush like McCain. Obviously many of us are not ready for real change yet! And btw as if it matters, I am a 52 year old white male. That should not matter but I know it does to a lot of you hypocrites!

Posted by: Jim Kiricov | March 16, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Daryl asked:
“Where are the Kennedys now? Remember the “next JFK”? You don’t see them doing the talk show circuit and defending him”
Best question of all! I live in Mass; we stayed with Hillary Clinton overwhelmingly, despite the very strong endorsements of the Kennedys and Kerry. Make no mistake about it. They, especially Ted Kennedy, hurt HIllary Clinton in many primaries. As Mike Dukakis stated in one interview after the Kennedy endorsement of Obama, “It is one thing to get an endorsement, it is quite another thing to have the endorser deliver his political machine and money to the candidate.
Me thinks Mike Dukakis knows what he is talking about.

Posted by: marie | March 16, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

People ask how Obama could go to this church for 20 years and not think it is racist? Maybe that is because it is NOT racist. Trinity is a well-respected mainstream church in Chicago, with something like 8000 members, and a who-’s-who of people that have attended. Apparently it was even Michael Jordan’s church.
Many white people have worshipped at Trinity and have said it was more welcoming than any other church they have been to. Yes, the minister went overboard a few times, and who knows whether anybody talked to him about it afterwards. But to judge a whole career and a whole church based on a little misguided inflammatory rhetoric cherry-picked out of 20 years of preaching is rather prejudical.

Posted by: jock59801 | March 16, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

I’m about as liberal as they get. The OBAMA we’ve believed we’ve been getting did not seem negative to me, just inexperienced. However, I will say that my father was a World War II hero, that gave blood on the battlefield so we would be a Democracy of inclusion, not a Democracy divided by hatered. He would be rolling over in his grave right now if he thought that the OBAMA that now appears to be emerging is seriously being thought of as a candidate for the President of the United States of America. My father was a Democrat his whole life, pulled the lever right down the line. In good conscience, I don’t think I will be able to do the same if Obama is said nominee.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 16, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

The Church cannot explained the 20 years of close relationship between Mr. Obama and Mr. Wright. The church cannot blame it on race this time, so it blames the media.

Posted by: rock | March 16, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Go Obama!! The fact that so many people are energized over these statements demonstrate the divisions and discrimination in this country are real. You are the ONLY candidate that can bridge the gap from the hurts of the past and the possibilities of the future! You spoke out on this real issue beautifully yesterday. You rock, Obama!!

Posted by: San Francisco, California | March 16, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I have always suspected Obama was a racist and bigot along with his wife. Obama is now a liar when he says he has been in the church for 20 years and didn’t know his pastor made such comments. Obama is a fraud. In time his campaign will collapse

Posted by: MISSY | March 16, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I thought that a preacher or minister in Church should stick to the Word of God. Politics in Church do not mix. He is devisive and arrogant towards non Blacks.

Posted by: rob | March 16, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

If the bias media favoring Obama did their job of providing facts to the american public then these Truths about Obama would have come out sooner. It’s definetly better late then never but people voted for Obama based on false truths and lies about what he stands for.
To be part of a church that preaches hate, allows racism of all kinds for over 20 years, how can Obama say he never knew. The Rev Wright has an apparent reputation of these types of rhetoric. Only the remaining primary contests can correct the mistakes and nominate Hillary Clinton. If not, the democrates are destined to loose the General election to McCain.

Posted by: mary | March 16, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I am a white Irish Catholic by background. I note that McCain took an endorsement from the Reverend Hagee of San Antonio well known for his anti Catholicism. My father had the same remarks made in our state when he ran for congress on the Democratic ticket in 1960 with JFK in Iowa. Things were more interesting in that our candidate for governor was named McManus. I think we now have evidence of two sermons on TV out of thousands given by Reverend Wright. While his tone may have been inflammatory, most of the things he talked about were true. America is no more blessed by God than any nation (or damned by him either) and our so called special relationship with the Divinity smacks of Blasphemy, which I believe was the excuse for the religious establishment having Jeus crucified. I think the criticism of Obama’s minister is just an excuse for rascism by whites who have long followed the hate your neighbor but don’t forget to say grace religion combined with God on our side mentality so well sung about by Bob Dylan in one of his better folk songs. For the record. Obama picked up 9 delegates in Iowa yesterday at County conventions in a largely white state so I don’t think this controversey goes as far as ABC (Always Backing Clinton) thinks it does.

Posted by: bhciapol | March 16, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Those statements at issue that were given by Dr. Wright is a real blessing in disguise for Obama. Because it brought up a real sensitive issue and Obama was able to embrace the problem but alter it in a way to pull us all together. Obama understands the deep issues in America and he has the wisdom and courage to address it while unifying us. People, this is precisely the leadership we need in the white house. Go Obama!!! I stand by you all the way!

Posted by: Juliet | March 16, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

So why was it ok for Obama to blame Ferraro on a 20-sec clip(even shorter than Wright’s clip)? She is a great contributor to American politics for atleast 30 years….Obama please step-down

Posted by: MattOhio | March 16, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

This is for Jack.Obama was not born in Rhodesia,Africa.He was born in Hawaii,USA.Would he be qualified to contest for the US presidency if he wasn’t born in the US?The answer is NO.Secondly,his mum was not from Rhodesia as you ignorantly stated.She was from Kansas,USA.Your comments are so illogical and completely at variance with common sense.If you must criticise a guy,at least you should let sanity reflect in your critique.Do yourself a favour.Try get at least a high school degree before you destroy yourself with lethal ignorance.

Posted by: looks08 | March 16, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

New Yorker,
and what about the african tribes that sold their rivals tribes into slavery?
or do you know that part of slavery’s history?

Posted by: letsgetitright | March 16, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

What goes around, comes around

Posted by: HD | March 16, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

BLAMES THE MEDIA? The joke of this is that the media sat on this story for months and it greatly benefited Obama because of it! Had they not, he would have never made it this far! And noone is to blame for this ministers tirades but the minister himself and Obama, who gave the church around $25,000. last year alone….which allows Wright to be able to spew this hatred! And Obama has no business asking Americans to vote for him to run America! What a disgrace!

Posted by: PMC | March 16, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Ted: McCaskill won’t distance herself from Obama until her teenage daughter tells her to. Don’t ask me why, but she’s told everybody that it was her daughter who called her a slug and told her she was ashamed of her unless she supported Obama. That’s what made her go to Obama. Unbelievable!

Posted by: cappamore | March 16, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

The revererend’s comments were inapprorpiate–but his sentiment was not.
Look at the reaction and the hate that is in the last 100 comments here. The name-calling, the misrepresentation of positions, the bile. It’s very sad.
Ttaking out his three inflammatory words, what in the details of his comments–the money spent on prisons rather than opportunities, the money spent on war rather than killing, or the problem of American policies in the MidEast that inflame other nations dislike for this country?
The reverend was wrong to say God damns America. He went over the top.
**
I certainly hope the posters here aren’t ‘evangelical’–after all, the last several pastor scandals have been evangelical ministers caught with homosexual prostitutes and drugs or in embezzlement scandals. I hope, too, they aren’t Catholic–after all, your SUnday cash baskets have been used to support pedophilia. Do you accept responsibility for their actions like you assign blame to Obama?

Posted by: jim835 | March 16, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

How can Obama build a bridge between anybody when the bridge he’s on is sinking into the murky waters of hatred and bigotry that’s been going on for 20 years. Obama supporters are just willing to overlook anything to believe in this man. He is not worthy of your passion and support and I hope the voters in the states to come send Barak packing. So they want to blame the media for character assasination. Come on, the media didn’t say God D… America, or Hillary ain’t never been called a N….. I think the more this is examined the worse it’s going to get. This latest release just proves the Obama campaign has lost it’s marbles, if they ever had any.

Posted by: JJ | March 16, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Tungsten, again you have it wrong, Obama capitalizes on the divides.

Posted by: Ted | March 16, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

“A. Wright Jr.’s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.”
how eloquent to leave out the word BLACK. In this statement
But his sermons sure didn’t, You can bet that the words oppressed WHITE women and WHITE children and WHITE men in america never passed his loving lips

Posted by: Larry | March 16, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

I am sure the super delegates who have supported Obama so far are thinking if they made the right decision…. Let’s hope some to get out.

Posted by: GS | March 16, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

You do not get a pass on this one. To see and hear words like those from Trinity United Church of Christ are shameful and Senator Obama financially and by his presence endorsed it. Sentator Obama YOU LEAD BY EXAMPLE, and you are a poor example!

Posted by: cb | March 16, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Tungsten, or put another way, yes there were “divides”, but Obama and Wright merely WIDEN those divides, not bridge them!

Posted by: Ted | March 16, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Why doesn’t anyone ask Oprah Winfrey for her opinion about Rev. Wright? She was a former member of this church. Did she hear his racist rants? Is that why she left? How much money has she contributed to this church?

Posted by: Kiley | March 16, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

What the hell is wrong with this picture? Is this the kind of change we can expect? I don’t think I am interested in this kind. I thought the whole mantra of change was a positive thing. This guy spews hate and anti-American garbage and then the congregation eats it up. Obama didn’t know. Oh you didn’t KNOW?? I think most of the churches in this country are just dens of Satan.
So let’s get this straight…this election we can choose from a nut case schizophrenic woman, a smooth talking con-artist racist crook, or a war hero and former Naval commander with lots of REAL experience…duhhh, do you really have to think about that one?

Posted by: Ed | March 16, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

I suppose now, these inflammatory activists who so easily damn and destroy the relative few who utter racist epithets now understand why unttering just one false and destructive word can destroy an entire career and image of an organization.
Is it fair? You have already given the answer yourselves, in situations such as Michael Richards and Don Imus…it was right for them….now it is right for you.

Posted by: JDaniel | March 16, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

why didn’t Jeremiah Wright not want to interview with anyone to state his case??
OBAMA HAS GOT/BEEN IN WITH THE WRONG CROWD.
I’M SORRY TO SAY, IF OBAMA IS THE DEM NOMINEE, I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY OR MCAIN.
OBAMA NEEDS TO GET HIS ACT TOGETHER FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY AND FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

Posted by: Charles | March 16, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

I’ve attended a UCC church in a town of 250,000. It’s the largest congregation in our small city. And It’s the most inspiring and inclusive church around. Every body is welcome. The Church is nearly all white.. There are a few non-whites. Orientals and Blacks. But I really don’t think anybody even thinks about counting.. Go figure…. And we are very active with a mission of a black church in Africa….

Posted by: roy | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Obama wanted to make like this is an old uncle type person and that he will be retiring soon.
Rev. Wright is only in his 60′s. Obama makes out like that is the excuse for his anger at white people and America.

Posted by: spencer | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Is this the same media that consistently made Obama the new generation’s JFK?
Where were the Obama media-critics when he was the golden boy and Hillary and Ferraro were getting such bad press?
Obama’s camp use the race issue when it helps them, but when it doesn’t then we’re all being accused of being divisive.
My feelings about Obama: soak in the media praise, but when they turn on you blame them for “cherry-picking” and “divisiveness”. I do blame the media for the Obama-hype. If they were doing a good job we would have gotten a balanced view of all the candidates. Now they have to eat their words and the public is sniping at each other.

Posted by: Sue | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

This is amazing, in the midst of a heated political campaign the American people are being led by the nose. I was brought up a Catholic, a fairly well respected chuch. During my lifetime many priests have been found to have abused young boys and girls. Many in the church were found to have hidden the fact that this abuse was taking place. The Catholic church essentially officially supported the Nazi persecution of Jews. The list goes on and I could say similarly damning things about many other Christian relicions, the Mormons, Muslims, Hindus, etc. Many evangelical preachers have been known to say outragious things regarding sexism, racism, antisemitism, etc.
If we are going to hold every member of every church responsible for the words of their preachers we would never vote for anyone belonging to any church. Is there any viable evidence to show that Obama, Hillary or McCain is guilty of racism, sexism, or any other ism? If we could show the campaigns that we will not be distracted by this sort of BS, maybe they would stop wasting or time with nonsense and start actually discussing the important issues.
What are the candidates going to do about the war in Iraq, the failing economy, the health care crisis, the horrible divisions in America? These are the questions we need answered, but as long as we let ourselves be sidetracked by indirect personal attacks on the candiates character, we will continue to get the same worthless politicians we have had for the past decades.

Posted by: captbilly | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Numerous others in the media, including
radio host and author Larry Elder, warned Obama as early as 2006 Wright would be a problem. Obama used his “judgement” and ignored the advise. The comments go beyond racism all the way to hating America and Americans.
Obama knew what his mentor was saying all along – if he didn’t – well then who would want somone so uninformed as President? Is the wool so easily pulled over his eyes?
Those of you who excuse it as sound bites – did you say the same for the 4 seconds of Don Imus? I think not….

Posted by: barbie | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

This is amazing, in the midst of a heated political campaign the American people are being led by the nose. I was brought up a Catholic, a fairly well respected chuch. During my lifetime many priests have been found to have abused young boys and girls. Many in the church were found to have hidden the fact that this abuse was taking place. The Catholic church essentially officially supported the Nazi persecution of Jews. The list goes on and I could say similarly damning things about many other Christian relicions, the Mormons, Muslims, Hindus, etc. Many evangelical preachers have been known to say outragious things regarding sexism, racism, antisemitism, etc.
If we are going to hold every member of every church responsible for the words of their preachers we would never vote for anyone belonging to any church. Is there any viable evidence to show that Obama, Hillary or McCain is guilty of racism, sexism, or any other ism? If we could show the campaigns that we will not be distracted by this sort of BS, maybe they would stop wasting or time with nonsense and start actually discussing the important issues.
What are the candidates going to do about the war in Iraq, the failing economy, the health care crisis, the horrible divisions in America? These are the questions we need answered, but as long as we let ourselves be sidetracked by indirect personal attacks on the candiates character, we will continue to get the same worthless politicians we have had for the past decades.

Posted by: captbilly | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Obama is 50% white, raised by a white mother and two white grand parents. It is ridiculous to assert that he’s a racist. The problem is America has never had to face race relations or proverty, gender, or class divisions.
I do not agree with Wrights “shock value” statements but I understand the truth behind his words. Why are we as Americans so blind to our past? Because we only remember yesterday not yester-year… Remember America has a shamefull past and rehabilitating present, there’s more room for improvement regarding racial profiling and inequalities in race, gender, sexual orientation, class level, religion, etc.
America is the best country in the world but it is far from perfect… And God is very critical of sin. I will never say God dXXX anything let alone my country…but I understand what Wright was trying to say… For example, I am a young black man 35 years old who’s black father/mother (married for 43 years and with great values)are both in their 60s and I see the affects of a racists America on them by the insecure way they act around white people.
I say God Bless America, but I do know that there are times America needs a critical eye…

Posted by: rocstar111 | March 16, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Ask yourself, Will President Obama continue to go to this church and support it? The answer is YES. He certainly hasn’t made any attempt to leave it. So vote for Clinton or McCain now so we won’t have to watch him lie about not knowing about the atmosphere of his church for the next nine months.

Posted by: Robert | March 16, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

RC,
I have no idea how old you are, but if you have any understanding of the 60′s and who exactly Farrakhan is you would understand that Ted is not spewing fear mongering. Farrakhan is a well known radical extremist muslim and was the president of the Nation of Islam here in the States.
Now, he and Wright visted a real sweetheart of a fellow named Mohamar Quadafi in Libya after 911. The same Mohamar Quadafi who was in part, responsible for the bombing of Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scottland. A known TERRORIST.
Now, this same Mohamar Quadafi tried to “gift” Louis Farrakhan 1 BILLION dollars. I’m sure it wasn’t to help the Chicago inner-city kids.
He was stopped from “gifting” this small cash donation by the Clinton Administration. (New York Times late 90′s or early 2000. Check it out.)
This story merits thourgh investigation seeing as how we are at WAR with muslim extremists.
The Point? TUCC has a tie to islamic extremism. Get it? Has absolutly nothing to do with race. End of Story.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 16, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Kate, First, I am not a Catholic and the situation with the pedophile priests was wrong and tragic. I do not know one Catholic who does not dispise this kind of behavior. The church is paying out millions of dollars to persons who were molested by these priests. The Church is not standing behind this as their “doctrine”, they are trying to rid their religion of this sort of thing and they are sick about how it has tarnished the Catholic name.
Rev. Wright’s church has the “audacity” to (just this morning) stand behind everything this man has delivered in his sermons.
This is why you cannot compare the Catholics to the followers of Rev. Wright. (I also know a lot of good, black Catholics by the way.

Posted by: guinniehen | March 16, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Wow the church grew from 87 to 8,000. That’s 7,913 more angry people in Chicago.

Posted by: jim | March 16, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

The guy should not have been so careless with his words and he should have been teaching “bless and curse not” and “Damn not lest you be damned”. He should not have had such an anti-American and anti-Christ teaching. He is a preacher, he should have thought before he opened his mouth. End of story.

Posted by: PQQAm | March 16, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Is this the change he talks about.
Sorry OBAMA americans are not that
stupid. I will not vote for you.
20 years man 20 years Come on.
Hillary has my vote .

Posted by: mar | March 16, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

You people don’t have a clue. While you are watch the front door. All of your stuff is going out the back. This is what they want. To draw your attention off what matters most. Our jobs, healthcare, gas prices,the federal deficit, the credit crunch and the decreasing value of the dollar. All of these candidates are flawed in some way. One is way past his prime and is moving so far to the right. That he willing to give you a tax dividend and give US companies the option of getting out of the healthcare benefits business. In the mean time you have a little more money in your pocket until the tax man comes and don’t forget your preexisting condition. Good luck finding a company to insure you under the McCain healthcare plan. The other is forever linked to past scandals and unscrupulous acts. And last but certainly not least, the new kid on the block. Yes he is taking a lot of hits right now. Yes he doesn’t have all the baggage of the other two. But if he can survive this storm of hypocrisy he will be a stronger man and president. I am glad this has come up now. I knew it would but just didn’t know when. We as a country have to find a way to get past race. We live next to each other, go to the same schools and shop at the same stores. But so much remains the same. We don’t trust one another. How can our country be a beacon of hope for others, when we have our own skeletons in the closet?

Posted by: lisa | March 16, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Obama says Pastor Wright’s comments are inflammatory. Inflammatory?
As a minimum they are inflammatory. In reality they are bigoted, racist, hurtful, anti-american, anti-white, anti-christian, and certainly not democratic.
And if Obama cannot say these words he can never bring this country together.

Posted by: California and Free | March 16, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

This “controversy” has made it clear that the racial divide in this country is going to take a long time to heal, if it is even possible. It is obvious that there is a lot of anger in the black community, and it is obvious that the white community doesn’t want to hear about it. Part of the problem is the rush to judgment. Rev. Wright unfairly judged white Americans (on some issues, although he had a point on others). And people are rushing to judge his whole career and the entire church and anyone who has ever gone there, based on his most inflammatory rhetoric. Yes, the rhetoric was very bad, but it is obviously not the whole story.
These people are not racist and do not hate America. Everybody who has been to the church will vouch for that. But we are going to hear a lot of inflammatory rhetoric from both sides if we ever truly confront this racial divide. Reconciliation is not possible if everyone gets up-in-arms at every slight, real or perceived.

Posted by: jock59801 | March 16, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

…and BTW, you are just making things worse by objecting to the publicity of the things this guy said.

Posted by: PQQAm | March 16, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

it is now officially impossible for obama to win in November

Posted by: chris | March 16, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I’m sure al Qaeda would be pleased to present a list of deeds they are proud of also, but you’re not going to get me to believe they are good any more than I believe Wright is good. Indoctrinating and inspring people with racist, anti-America talk for over 30 years can’t be washed away because he opened a church library. His is not leadership, but perpetuation of a stereotye that keep African-Americans forever at arms length from what they hope to achieve….he sure couldn’t walk shoulder to shoulder with MLK spewing that kind of rhetoric.

Posted by: Ron | March 16, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

This is ALL a distraction. The enemy is busy trying to divide and conquer. Stay focused on the issues that are facing every American and vote for the candidate you feel will work for the best interests of every American. I believe that candidate is Barak Obama!
I’ve visited Trinity UCC church and seen the positive results of the various ministries. What individual can say they agree with everything their pastor preaches? I know I don’t. I listen, study the word of God and discern for myself. Then act as my independent mind leads me. God bless us all.

Posted by: don't sleep | March 16, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

“The ministries developed under Dr. Wright’s ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.”
Similar to Hamas, the virtuous Reverend Wright’s ministries and social causes are portrayed as human-loving groups whose goal is to help the meek, downtrodden and oppressed. In reality, it appears Wright and Hamas social programs have multiple agenda’s. Reality is what it is, but you draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Chris | March 16, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Please put the hatred away.
Obama offers change and hope to all of us, not just those of us who support him.
He loves us all. He doensn’t attack with negative campaign slogans and commercials.
Obama will end the hate in the world. We can offer the middleeast something which they never had, a hug. We can hug one another. We can all learn to get along and enjoy life.
Let’s put aside the hate and vote for the only man that can unite the world and bring peace.
We all can learn to love a little more. Vote Obama

Posted by: Rose M | March 16, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

How many times can one say it. Barak CAN NOT win in November, we need to support Hillary or loose to the Republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Julia | March 16, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

This is ALL a distraction. The enemy is busy trying to divide and conquer. Stay focused on the issues that are facing every American and vote for the candidate you feel will work for the best interests of every American. I believe that candidate is Barak Obama!
I’ve visited Trinity UCC church and seen the positive results of the various ministries. What individual can say they agree with everything their pastor preaches? I know I don’t. I listen, study the word of God and discern for myself. Then act as my independent mind leads me. God bless us all.

Posted by: DontSleep | March 16, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

It’s now OK for the President of the United States to use Cocaine in his past. It is now OK for the President of the United States to be a Plagiarist. It is now OK for the President of the United States to attend a Racist Cult for for 20 years, It is now OK for the President of The United States to have no foreign policy experience and for that matter no relevant experience! – Great candidate this Barack Obama!

Posted by: John in Cape May | March 16, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

If they are not meant to provoke (be it positive community action or divisive behavior), then why are the tapes of these sermons available for sale?

Posted by: mhhunt | March 16, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Tungsten: Have you lost your mind. That church is anti-American. Is that what you are? Then join that church. Anerica should kick him out of the country for good. What is wrong with you. And Obama running for president, going to a church that hates whites? Obama is just using the whites for his own advantage not because he likes them. He will be friends with Wright forever. Obama has a very smeared past compared to Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 16, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

What you people fail to realize is that Obama has now lost maybe millions of white votes in the General election! Hispanics, Jews, Asians and some Blacks will not vote for him! I am Black and I go to a predominantly black church and my pastor never spoke words like Rev. Wright! He wasn’t getting my vote noway! Democrats you have two sworn losers in the race!

Posted by: antdog73 | March 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

All you Guys, think first before you post anything here.
Is there some truth to Wright’s statements. The answer is yes. However the manner in which it was said is not pleasing.
People stop hiding from the truth. I am sure this man is not a racist but the media has done its job in potraying him as one.
All we white people will never know how it feels like to face injustice, racial discrimination.
This shows that there is still racial division especially from a majority of my fellow whites and that is the truth.
May be OBAMA CAN TRY TO BRING THAT RECONCILIATION.
AMERICA WE HAVE TO MOVE BEYOND THE RACIAL DIVIDE.
OTHERWISE THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO BE CALLED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE WORLD SEES WHAT IS HAPPENNING HERE.
HURRICANE KATRINA EXPOSED OUR BIAS AGAINST PEOPLE OF MINORITY

Posted by: peterjammie | March 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

**Don** — If it is not obvious to you, it is obvious to us, that Jesus Christ is not in your heart. Get over yourself.

Posted by: Denise Broadus | March 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

If Obama is half white and half black, why does he always refer to himself as a black man and never as a white man? You would hope that his diverse background would encourage him to represent all races, but it is quite obvious that he’s partial to one. The Clinton’s, whether you like them or not, have proven to sympathize with all races.

Posted by: GS | March 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

The issue is that we know little about Obama. What do you really know? We do know that his wife is arrogant and unappreciative of the opportunities given to her in America. We do know that Obama’s wife expressed reservations about supporting the Democratic candidate if it wasn’t her husband. We do know that Obama has revised his earlier memories of the amount of money raised by Rezko on his behalf (a friend and advocate for decades). We do know that something fishy went on with the real estate trasaction involving Rezko and Obama. We do know that Obama’s political camp told the Canadians not to pay attention to the rhetoric about NAFTA. We do know that Obama has used cocaine. We do know that Obama’s spirtual mentor and advisor on his campaign has spouted racist propoganda. We do know that Obama’s relative in Kenya are implicated in violence and murder. We do know that there is a lawsuit alleging that Obama used cocaine and had oral sex while a state representative. The rest of what people THINK they know if full of hype and promises. Sure Obama’s speeches may make people feel good (the prozac effect) but it is what he really is that counts….and I don’t like that picture. I’m with many of those posting here – I’ll vote for McCain before I will give a vote to Obama who I think is more dangerous than George Bush.

Posted by: David | March 16, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Ruthmatters, who is at the top of this comments entry, is confused, the article comments are from the new pastor and not Dr. Wright.
I applaud her recognizing great African American leaders of the past and I hope that she realizes that Barack Obama has a very real potential to be a great leader who happens to be half black.
We in this country have a tendency to assasinate our leaders who can have the most positive impact on our country, we seem to distroy them one way or the other.
Its people like Shawn Hannity, who claims to be a true christian American, who assasinates peoples character and supports those that have placed America in its worst economic declined since the great depression. Yet, its he who leads the media in 15-20 second sound bites as if Obama was the one making the statements. However, he won’t carry Obama’s message of the last six months of hope and inclusion.
This is how the republicans have saddled us with George Bush Jr and a trillion dollar debt, 26,000 wounded and 4,000 dead, with 15 seconds sound bites distroying American hero’s like John Kerry (remember the swift boat lies).
We should not let character assaination blind us to what Obama really stands for, which is to unite this country and take it back from special interest groups, big corporate greed and people that play funny business with an election (Florida) and a George Bush Sr loaded Supreme court decision that gives us a war mongering commander and cheif. Who happens to be the son of the guy that loaded the supreme court. Let’s not even talk about his brother being governor of the state that can’t count ballots, except in favor of his brother.
This is the kind of crap that has run this once stellar country, into a country that owes other countries trillions of dollars, a country that is hated abroad, a country that is the target of terrorism because of their foreign policies, a country that is producing less and less at home every year, a country that has been intentionally divided by the likes of Karl Rove, a country scandalized by Bill Clinton, a country that gives tax breaks to the rich and then starts wars and place the cost on the middle class.
They want you to be side track on issues like Pastor Wright while they pick pocket us and send our children off to die in a ill conceived, ill planned war (remember Rumsfeld).
Don’t fall for it America

Posted by: Roderick - Texas | March 16, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

This is a Godless country, He should damn it for the rampant homosexuality, drug use, and other generally immoral behavior that takes place daily. Damn the US until it turns back to Him.
Posted by: Blue | Mar 16, 2008 6:44:33 PM
You’re scary.
What God are you referring to? Yours, mine, or one of the other millions people in America pray to?
Tell you what, let’s make a compromise..God can damn your tiny section of the country, and leave mine just as it is, mm’kay?

Posted by: josh | March 16, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

ALL of America’s creepy crawlies are coming out now!

Posted by: Elizabeth | March 16, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

Everything is in context. Most who preach from the pulpit have not been the spiritual advisor to a presidential candidate. There is a difference. When you run for president every aspect of your life becomes the business of America. It goes with the territory and ambition. Anyone who does not like it or cannot deal with it always has the option of ending their candidacy.

Posted by: Richard Natoli-Rombach | March 16, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Golly, 207792 minutes preaching over 52 Sundays a year for 36 years – that’s 111 minutes per sermon, not counting the rest of the service. Talk about long-winded! Sounds suspiciously “exact” of you ask me – who keeps track of how long somebody’s sermons run, especially over a 36 year period?

Posted by: Auburn Annie | March 16, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

There are no laurels that can be pinned on the lapel of Jeremiah Wright that will overcome those hateful and hurtful rants.
It is inexplicable but I am hearing reports on t.v. that other black ministers are coming out in defense of Wright. It is inconceivable that another minister would offer a defense of those awful diatribes.
We might be in more trouble than we know.

Posted by: JanetP | March 16, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Since the Rev. John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ general minister and president,is defending Dr. Wright and this Church does that also mean that the UCC approves of the fact that this Church in December 2007 gave Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam the Dr. Jeremiah Wright Lifetime Achievement Award? The award was given through its magazine which is edited by Dr. Wright’s daughter. Farrakhan is a noted bigot, racist and Anti-Semite. Does that mean that the UCC approves of Farrakhan and what he preaches also? Is Dr. Thomas saying it is not OK for anyone to question this Church and what it is preaching, but that it is OK for a Black man to be an Anti-Semite and anti-white? Clarification is needed from Dr, Thomas. Check out the Church’s magazine including quotes from Dr. Wright praising Farrakhan at http://www.trumpetmag.com.

Posted by: Susan | March 16, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Why does Obama call himself a black man? His mother was white?

Posted by: blady | March 16, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

The reason, Greesey, we didn’t use the atom bomb on Germany was that we didn’t have one to use at the time.
Regarding the US being a sexist, racist society, of course it is. So is any other society I’ve ever heard of. For that matter so is Wright’s United Church of Christ. If it wasn’t the congregation would have walked out when Wright defamed white Americans.

Posted by: Duscany | March 16, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

yesterday, i watched the relay of Pastor Wright’s sermon on some of the news network. I was really horrified but today I watched a better cap of the relay on Fox and towards the end he was preaching about love, forgiveness and not hate. So why were we initially shown excerpts of that sermon but not the whole? But even then I do not agree to the manner in which he talked about those things and feel he should never have mentioned Hilary’s name. He still talked about those blacks saying barack was not black enough. Some Whites say he is black and some blacks say he is not black enough. I think we have seen enough of this hate messages. We need some positive reasonings.

Posted by: vinny | March 16, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

New Flash
Obama supports Wright’s views on Hating America and Diving on racial lines. Bad part is Obama taught his kids too by taking them to TUCC.

Posted by: MattOhio | March 16, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

This is the kind of crap that has run this once stellar country, into a country that owes other countries trillions of dollars, a country that is hated abroad, a country that is the target of terrorism because of their foreign policies, a country that is producing less and less at home every year, a country that has been intentionally divided by the likes of Karl Rove, a country scandalized by Bill Clinton, a country that gives tax breaks to the rich and then starts wars and place the cost on the middle class.
They want you to be side track on issues like Pastor Wright while they pick pocket us and send our children off to die in a ill conceived, ill planned war (remember Rumsfeld).
Don’t fall for it America
Posted by: Roderick – Texas | Mar 16, 2008 6:58:10 PM
Roderick, it is OBAMA who CHOSE to ASSOCIATE WITH A DIVISIVE FIGURE, who ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH LOUIS FARRAKHAN, who uses code words like “bamboozled”, who allows his supporters, like Sen Bill Perkins issue racist statements basically calling Bill Clinton a slave owner, by referring to Harlem as Bill Clinton’s plantation..
http://newbrooklynnetwork.typepad.com/brooklyn_ron/2008/02/bill-perkins-sa.html
OBAMA DID IT ALL ON HIS OWN
He aligns himself with racially divisive people, his wife wrote a thesis on the “racial divide” and was disappointed her peers didn’t self-segregate, he issues a whisper campaign of racist accusations towards hillary and bill, after years of african-americans fawning all over the Clinton’s because of the work they’ve done.
Let me clue you in:
Obama=No Credibility
Zero

Posted by: Josh | March 16, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Hey Roderick Texas
Charactor assination? The video dont lie… Anti-Americanism and Racism. Period.

Posted by: Scott T. | March 16, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

After debating about my position, now I really now have a clear indication of where I,am going. Not for Obama.
Many reason but I,ll list two
One
I emailed Nancy Pelosi and asked her not to be so vocal, and obovious surport for Obama but wait and keep a low profile and let the American people decide how the Super delegates were to vote.
The response I received was since I was not in her congressional district she would not answer my question.
Whats up with that?
Two
The Rev Wright issue. Obama has not explained himself to the American people, other than the deer in headlight speaches he made late Friday night on cable networks, not ABC NBC CBS.

Posted by: Peter | March 16, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

As I have said before, if only a Great American like Barbara Jordan were alive, she would blow both these candidates right off the stage.
Her speeches were HERS. No one elses. And they put Wonder Boy’s to shame, especially because most of his speeches were written by everyone else but him.
Secondly, she would be even more on top of the issues then Clinton, dates, times, figures, bills, events, historical connections. Barbara Jordan was unreal in the brain and the bravery department.
And she happened to be a woman. And she happened to be black.
And she happens to be one of the Great Americans of our time. Look her up, read her words, and LEARN something about REAL leaders and REAL speakers.
She is sorely missed, especially when you have this bunch claiming greatness.
I like Hillary, and you must know that. And I am not saying she is not smart – even her enemies say she is scary smart. But Barbara Jordan had something you just don’t see now.
She had an I will not go there attitude, because she didn’t NEED to go there. If you had the misfortune of being a liar, or a self-invention, her meer presence exposed you for the fraud you are.
Obama could never have stood next to her. The obviousness of his unpreparedness would have laughed him off the stage. As it may just do now.
Dare the media to find the proof Obama. Just like Gary Hart. Please, dare them and see what they spring on you, that they have been holding back. The Obamatologists would lose their minds if they knew what the MSM has been keeping from them, concerning their Own Personal Jesus.

Posted by: 2009 | March 16, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

blady, you raised a very good question:
Why does Obama call himself a black man? His mother was white?
I have another question:
Why Obama’s pastor is so aggressive in the campaign? Should pastors keep neutral in pilitics?
That spawns another question:
Why and how did Obama get many votes? Is that because he dares to use all kinds of means in order to win? He even used his pastor before, isn’t it true?

Posted by: golfgirlusa | March 16, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Dear Marianne P. — read my first post. An American??? In 1976 I went to Germany as a soldier,American, and I happen to be black. The Europeans saw me as American before they saw me as black; white Americans see me as black before they see me as American…explain that, please.

Posted by: Denise Broadus | March 16, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Roderick in Texas its too late! We fell for it 3 days ago! I wasn’t going to vote for Obama or Hillary! He might survive the Democratic primaries but he will lose badly in the General election! I sure hope you’re not one of those young new voters for Obama! Your hopes and dreams about Obama08 is going down the drain!

Posted by: antdog73 | March 16, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Many comments on this thread have a common tone, that of profound hate. It seems as though perhaps those of you with all that pent-up hate were waiting for such an opportunity to put your hate on full display. I certainly congratulate you all on your liberation.
However, if it was unleashed solely due to the comments of the reverend, I fear the rationale for your hate is extremely shallow.

Posted by: David | March 16, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

You guys really invalidate yourselves when you quote Huffington Post. She’s completely destroyed her reputation by being slanted beyond belief towards Obama to the point of gross lies and slander about Clinton. But, then, she was a Republican wasn’t she. Considering how they plan moves ahead on the chess board, makes you wonder, huh?

Posted by: blindersoff | March 16, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Even GWB did not have a pastor like Wright that he listened to sunday after sunday for 20+ years. Cannot imagine what we have in store with the likes of Obama and Wright.

Posted by: Voter | March 16, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Not all black churches are this offensive.

Posted by: kmkmkm | March 16, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Obama is not responsible for what Rev. Wright says or does; however, it amazes me that people think this information doesn’t apply to the “issues”. If Obama is lying about:
Pastor Wright
Farrakhan
the NAFTA Meeting
Exelon
Tony Rezko
What else is he hiding? Maybe he’s just marketing his political agenda. There’s an old saying in the sales office: “Lie ‘til they buy…then it’s too late!” Vote for whomever you want but remember you get what you deserve. DELEGATES SHOULD LET THE VOTERS DECIDE!

Posted by: proudamerican2008 | March 16, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

It’s unfortunate that Obama’s campaign set the tone so there could not be an open discussion (or even a mention) of race and gender issues without someone being called a racist. The country badly needs this discussion. I guess Obama did not need it because he was hearing a one-sided view of it at his church. Hillary’s followers cannot say anything without being accused of racisim. Who is going to start a civil discussion?

Posted by: cdbgt74 | March 16, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Many comments on this thread have a common tone, that of profound hate. It seems as though perhaps those of you with all that pent-up hate were waiting for such an opportunity to put your hate on full display. I certainly congratulate you all on your liberation.
However, if it was unleashed solely due to the comments of the reverend, I fear the rationale for your hate is extremely shallow.
Posted by: David | Mar 16, 2008 7:14:53 PM
This guy must have watched the Jeremiah Wright videos…don’t let it get you down, there, David..not all black folk associate with Farrakhan, and not all consider whites to be “potential human beings who haven’t evolved.”
Cuz ya know..like responds to like.

Posted by: Josh | March 16, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

where is the video of obama sitting in the church pew nodding his head in agreement for 20 years?
agreeing that natalee holloway (rest her soul) brought it on herself.
that shame on america! and all the soldiers fighting for our peace of mind at night are doing it bcuz of the white people.
that obama was a poor black man? who didn’t like to look at his white mama (read his book) and has relatives overseas accused of murder?
that obama just vetoed his own bill?
truth is, we never knew obama.
shame on the media for keeping all of this from us for their benefit. that’s where the real shame lies.

Posted by: rosewate | March 16, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Again Senator Obama had to make a statement about his pastor the Rev Wright. I do not understand why the news media is making a big deal about this. Most of the things that Rev Wright said are true. Could it be America is not ready to face the truth, that race is still a MAJOR issue in this country.
The one good thing about this situation is that race is being discussed openly. Too often in the past it was a hush hush issue. This country is ran by rich white people. If it isn’t rich white people than who is running it? Why is there such a problem with what he is saying, oh I forgot, the truth hurts – ouch.
I do not condone what Rev Wright said about the victims of 9/11. All of the families have my deepest sympathy. But if you really listen to his message, he is saying with all that the American Govt has done to other countries eventually when you do wrong, wrong does come back to you.
I wish there was a news media station that had the guts to really exam what Rev Wright has said and honestly report that what he has said is the truth.
Now Senator Obama has put his entire family at risk to fight racism in this country. His vision is for the nations to come together and discuss their issues instead of resorting to violence. I still firmly believe if American elects Senator Obama, this will send a powerful positive message to the world. That America finally is willing to look past someone’s color and judge people on who they are!

Posted by: Tracy | March 16, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

quote by David
“Many comments on this thread have a common tone, that of profound hate. It seems as though perhaps those of you with all that pent-up hate were waiting for such an opportunity to put your hate on full display. I certainly congratulate you all on your liberation.”
It is not pent-up hate, but extreme BETRAYAL. The American People truly transcended race in this election cycle and voted for the person. Now we learn that we have been hoodwinked.

Posted by: JanetP | March 16, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Tracy – you act like you’ve actually heard Obama saying HOW he was going to lessen the racial divide.
I guess the rest of America just hears him throw up his message of change, just never how he plans to do anything.

Posted by: 2forit | March 16, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

“So now anyone who criticizes this pastor will be called a racist.”
Get over yourselves. The word racist does NOT appear anywhere in that article. You know, if your skin is so thin that you will describe any resistance to you trashing black people or their organisations as being racist you probably ARE a racist. Ferraro SPECIFICALLY mentions race, and then you say BARACK’S team is bringing race in.
You people are opportunists who thought you’d find a stick to beat a dog you never liked in the first place, so quit this pretending to be oh so shocked. The problem is your stick was guilt by association, which you don’t want to apply to either your sitting president or your hoped-for future one. If you’re gonna use guilt by association on the Clintons, oh boy!
And the racism DRIPS from many of these posts. The man is not even completely black and you are freaking out.
You think people don’t see your game. They do.
There are too few democrats posting here and too many vile racist Republicans. You think you can disguise it, but you can’t.

Posted by: Lawrence L | March 16, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

dennis…… Jerry Falwell is dead and in the ground!

Posted by: antdog73 | March 16, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Janet P you are right. And that is the answer to all on this blog who ask why we have such a tone of hate going one. We did vote for the person we thought Obama was, but now we’ve learned the truth. We transcended the racial divide, but have now learned that he’s been listening to the battle cry for 20 years, and now has a new generation in his children doing the same.

Posted by: mel | March 16, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

For an enlightening read, find out how the Obama campaign used race and deceit to take the AA vote from the Clintons.
Dirty Chicago politics, brought to you from the Uniter, not Divider. They don’t give a shoot about black people or white. They just want to win at all costs. Nevermind how America does not need this crap right now. Pull together, black and white, Asian, First Nation, and East Asian. United we stand. Divided we fall.

Posted by: blindersoff | March 16, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Robert, do you really think the majority of christians liked and revered Jerry Falwell?
We thought he was a real detriment to good christians who wanted to show people God’s love. He was never someone I listened to or admired. He was an extremist that some on the right liked.
There are too many extemist left and extremist right these days that like to lump together everyone they don’t like. This Pastor Wright is also an extremist, that concerns me that Obama would listen to an extremist for 20 years. Extremists on the left and right are not the kind of people I listen to or admire – EVER!
Many christians were VERY embarrassed of the likes of Jerry Falwell.

Posted by: traci | March 16, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath –
America will be!
Langston Hughes
And if you don’t know who he is, educate yourself

Posted by: Lawrence L | March 16, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

This conversation indicting Sen. Obama for the words of his pastor is the highest form of sophistry and syllogism. If no one can force Rev Wright to say those things, then no one can force Sen Obama to believe them. The resistance to review Rev Wright’s statements in context of his entire sermon, world events, and the perspective of marginialization is proof that many want to support and extend the US history of artificial privileges and arbitrary barriers. Sen. Obama has repudiated the remarks and the person. The penchant for quick slogans to address needs is what allowed GWB to ruin the country. The two remaining Democratic candidates are selling visions, one is a dream and the other is a nightmare. Decide wisely based on what their plans mean for you no on caricatures, stereotypes, and fear. Reacting to an issues has allowed too many voters to juxtapose thier interest against thier values. The US requires a “win.” The vestiges of colonialism, imperialism and the peculiar malevolence of disparate treatement have inhibited us for too long.

Posted by: Ansis | March 16, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Trinity United Church of Christ, that sounds good! “god dam america” that dose not sound good. The words from Lincoln in 1865, they sounded good even if it took a 100 years to hear them. For 20 years obama listen to the Rev wrong and obama didn’t say nothing untill wright or wrong was to be made, obama you are not a leaded of wright but a follower of the Rev wrong. If you would run as NO-2 Hillary and you still wouldn’t have a chance to win, their is just to many stand-up AMERICANS that is in both partys.
GOD BLESS AMERICA and to all that has served
by wothah

Posted by: wothah | March 16, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Obama dropped 8 points from Friday to Saturday on a Rasmussen poll.

Posted by: g | March 16, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

If you really want to be pro-American you should be anti-Bush, anti-McCain, anti-war machine, and anti-our foreign policies that have led to a sizable portion of the world hating us.

Posted by: Marcus Lee | March 16, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Change We Can Believe In
“NO”Bama ’08

Posted by: me | March 16, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Scott T, as the article indicates, these are statements pulled out of 36 years of preaching. That’s why they call it sound bites. I bet Pastor Wright has more moments teaching love and helping people and giving of your time for social causes then the rhetoric pulled from one of his sermons. Oh by the way, I dislike the way he said it, but I am having a hard time finding the lie in what he said. Other then his saying we should sing GD America, I find it difficult with an open mind to disagree with his message. Please consider the following points:
1) We were attacked by terrorist because of our foreign policies (that’s a proven fact)
2) America still has prejudice in her blood (No questions here)
3) We are a country that was founded under the principle of God and the bible (unless I have been reading another countries history..this is a fact)
4) We do teach in our churches (the majority of them) that when you sin, you should repent or you will be d—-.
5) The only question is has America’s conduct abroad and at home reached the level where it could be considered sinful. Apparently, from Pastor Wright’s prospective it has. Therefore, it is his opinion that God should do to America what is taught in most churches (white or black) and that is the ultimate punishment for sin, unless of course there is a repentence. (have is mischaracterized anything to this point). Oh by the way, many pastors agree and have preached the same message. Albeit, not using God and D— linked together, but the same message just the same.
6) I can understand your problem with his statements if you are not a believer in scripture and recorded history. (This is America and whatever your beliefs are) Therefore, this would not apply to you.
7) Sometimes the truth hurts and it feels better to attack then to look introspectively.
8) The media knows what I just explained, but their job is to keep us excited and in shock, that’s why his pastor’s message of hope, love and charity will never be sound bited. Do you really think Obama, a man raised by his white mother, somehow hates white people? I think not. The press would have you think he hates half himself and all of his mother and her parents. From what I have read he loved and honored his mother and he did it in the best way a son can honor his parents…make something out of yourself.

Posted by: Roderick - Texas | March 16, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“”"golfgirlusa re: Barbara Jordan”"”
You will be pleased to know I sometimes go out to the cemetery to put yellow roses on her grave.
She is missed as a voice of reason, integrity, and intelligence. A true daughter of The Lone Star.

Posted by: Kate | March 16, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

I don’t see what is so surprising in the Pastor’s speech as those are the sentiments of some in that community. Obama would be out-of-touch if he didn’t have some contact with them as they are part of his constituency. What is new here? More worrisome is his wife who racializes her cold reception at Princeton when it is just that way to everybody if your not from certain families and money even if you are white. She had all the priveledges of that and a law school education and well-paid employement with an excellant employer which could only have happened in this country frankly. Yet she says she was ashamed of America with a bunch of complaining and whining as if spoiled. Any white person with her level of success would be ecstatic and greatful for their good fortune. However as a country we are not perfect and there is much to improve on, and the very first thing to improve on is to get out of the clutches of this race industry thinking mode. People forget Obama is half white and his father being Keynian isn’t even African American so he does not come from those generations already here or their experiences. Why African Americans think he is their saviour because of somewhat similar genes belies their own racism. This Harvard Law School grad has less in common with them than they think if they can get past his skin color. White people are tired of the double standard put on them by African Americans. Nothing seems to ever satisfy. But anyone who is willing to go to school and learn and build a career of either race has a good furture here. But the pre-requisite to that is good parenting and safe communities. I think what Obama is is a people person foremost who isn’t imprisoned completely by that racial lens so popular on the other side. But again what is so surprising by what that Pastor said. He is no dummy. It energizes his church and fills the pews, as he is singing to the choir. Its part showmanship, part fill the tent, part what they really feel. You are the only fool if you let them use your race against you. People get out more and explore your communities. What Obama needs to do is really lay out just what he thinks about race and his own complicated situation. His wife needs to rethink where all her anger is coming from and how much she needs that race fix to excuse any shortcomings she may have. We all have them, but why racialize every little thing? That is so ethnocentric.

Posted by: Brian | March 16, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Sounded like Louis Farrakhan talk to me. HIV a plot by whites to decimate the black population? Levies deliberately blown up after Hurricane Katrina to flood black neighborhoods? There is no excuse for this hate retoric. Same for the white extremists.

Posted by: LongT | March 16, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

It isn’t the minister alone. But when added to Mrs. Obama’s Princeton thesis and her remarks, Sen. Obama’s remarks in his books, and now the sad remarks of his spiritual advisor; we have to respond.
The New York Times has an article on his mother. I wish I had known her.

Posted by: Kate | March 16, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

While the church can go after the media for the questions about Wright one thing that they may not realize is that the media often makes their investigations more forceful and act in a much more aggresive way when they get attacked. The first thing that they probably are already working on is trying to find evidence that Obama WAS there for any of Wright’s sermons that are the subject of the discussions and that he denied being there for.

Posted by: Eric | March 16, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

STEV: Please, you were never an Obama supporter. Chickens come home to roost: why mention your black? Is it relevant? Wright doesn’t speak for Black-America, so why do you feel its your obligation to state your race? Personally, the media is making a mountain-out-of-a-mold, this wright mess is minor in comparison to the more important issues this country is faces. This is clearly a right-wing hit job and u people are falling for it. This is guilt by association and that is unfair. The church has right to defend its legacy and mission. The church shouldn’t be defined by one pastors stupid and baseless comments.

Posted by: Dale | March 16, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

You people are one marble short with all these theories … I am not sure whether to laugh or be nervous be nervous for you… or realize that most of you are hired spinners.
Take it down a notch. You sound no better than the Pastor in those videos.
No wonder they got you all using the fear card last time. Anyone who buys into one of these crazy paranoid delusions is just going to vote like it’s 2004… voting out of fear drives an electorate to elect a group like…the one that got us into this mess.

Posted by: dl | March 16, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Crazy uncle excuse? Family you can’t choose, friends you can. Choosing your church is a personal decision. Obama knew what he was doing.

Posted by: g | March 16, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Media areheating this issue more higher, than it is necessary.
Much more.
It is awful to see those comments on TV again and again.
No NECESSITY.
let’s be back to work

Posted by: Luda | March 16, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

I, too, blame the media but for a different reason and that is for not looking more intently into Obama and his hate-speaking church. The mainstream media have chills going up their legs for Obama and are pushing for this coronation. It is white liberal “guilt” gone amok and a disservce in reporting.

Posted by: Linda | March 16, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

I agree with alot of what you said Roderick except for your first line of we were attacked because of our foriegn policy.
I disagree. What religion were those who attacked us? Islam. Islamic extremists followers of Osama Bin Laden.
The Islamic extremists want us dead because they believe ‘we are the great satan’. Period. They want the whole world ruled under Sharia Law. They want to either convert the whole world to Islam or make slaves of all of us or us to die by the sword. Nothing else. It is too easy to blame America first for alot of people.
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Posted by: Scott T. | March 16, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

This morning I read several articles on this “controversy” regarding Pastor Wright.
The criticisms about his statements post-9/11 are completely invalid. Many people who know history, particularly with regard to the Middle East, have said similar things.
Many of his statements about the historical treatment of blacks in the US are also not controversial but true.
I know that it makes many people uncomfortable to hear about these things, and surely many African Americans concentrate too much on what’s wrong instead of what’s right, but that doesn’t diminish the validity of their views.
His statements regarding damning America are indeed extreme and wrong. However, biblical support for these can be found at Psalms 10:8 and 94:20-23. Old Testament scripture often equated evil with the shedding of innocent blood; of which America has done and continues to do its share.
More troubling than the fact that the story on Obama’s connection to his pastor has been way overplayed is the hypocrisy of those throwing the bombs.
Conservative politicians, opinion makers and religious leaders have been responsible for some of the most hateful and extreme language I’ve ever heard, yet the tone of the criticism is rarely as shrill as I’m hearing now on this subject. Especially, given the fact that a lot of what Wright said is true.
McCain and Bush have a connection to a pastor at least as bad as Wright, yet this gets little notice. See link: http://www.newser.com/story/21406.html.
Far from being “kooky,” Wright’s views are common in mainstream African American communities. They’re probably even more prevalent amongst those with college educations.
Americans need to get over this bashing others with the American flag. Why aren’t conservative evangelicals held to the same standard as liberal evangelicals? They too often stereotype Muslims as “violent” and blacks as unpatriotic or overly sensitive on subjects of race.
If there is ever truly going to be racial reconciliation white America needs to listen to and value the opinions of black Americans in a reasonable discourse, even when they disagree with them.

Posted by: facingreality | March 16, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Obama sold out to pressure. He sold out to the nuclear industry with his watered down legislation and now he sold out his church. After listening to this man for 20 years you know he believed what he was saying but he sold out to the pressure. If he was president what else would he sell out to?

Posted by: jim | March 16, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

I am so tired of everyone being accused of hating America just because they are critical of some of the bad things America has done. Sure, Rev. Wright was over the top and I don’t agree with him, but he was criticizing specific injustices that America has perpetrated. Some of his accusations are not true but some of them are. Even over-the-top anger at what America has done does not mean that someone “hates” America, and it certainly doesn’t mean that anybody who knows the guy also “hates” America.
Wright was a Marine, for goodness sake; maybe we shouldn’t condemn a person’s whole life and character over one transgression? That in itself is divisive.

Posted by: jock59801 | March 16, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

If there is nothing wrong with what Wright said, why has Obama rejected his message?

Posted by: just wondering | March 16, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Has racism been a terrible scar on this country’s past? Of course. No one in their right mind can deny that. But picking at the wound never allows it to heal. It’s been 40 years since Dr. King was murdered. Did he die so that people could wrap themselves up in the world of past hurts rather than trying to make his dream a reality? Until we as a country decide that we are ready to heal, we never will. That goes for all races.
I think the most disheartening thing about all this is that just when we think we as a society are making progress, we find out that some of those we saw as our partners in moving forward are actually moving in reverse.
I feel a great deal of sorrow for my fellow Democrats who voted for Obama thinking that he was going to move this country forward. He chose to associate with Rev. Wright for 20 years, he chose to view him as a mentor and spiritual advisor, and he chose to put him on his campaign up until only a couple of days ago. Hillary didn’t make that happen. The media didn’t make that happen. The Republicans didn’t make that happen. Obama did.

Posted by: Cindy | March 16, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Obama being blamed for Wright’s comments is like McCain being blamed for Timothy McVei’s Oklahoma bombing. You could say Obama went to the same church in which Wright preached and McCain went to the same army in which Timothy served. Arguments can get pretty ridiculous when just because you have heard someone speak you automatically are a changed person. So people grow up and realize that the media is thriving on this race frenzy. Racist and bigoted comments have no place in the US society where we put our best foot forward or loose the ability to compete in a global market. It is okay if senior citizens from NY like Geraldine Ferraro and Nobel laureates like James Watson make some ridiculous racially offensive comments but when younger people fail to realize that no one no matter from what race can do so much harm to the USA and its reputation as has been done by the current President. Does that mean no other person of the same race will not do any better. Not at all. It means race has nothing to do with performance and listening to the fiery sermons has nothing to do with ones ability to achieve. A real American abides by the constitution and not race.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | March 16, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Last I heard Barack Obama attended Ivy League schools on scholarship as did his wife Michelle Obama. I also heard she was earning over $400,000 per year. They now own a $1.6 million home. One which they were not able to buy until Tony Rezko had his wife buy the adjacent land. This does not sound like a poor family to me. In fact, statistics would show this is a family that is wealthier than more than 80% of Americans. Point: When do you stop playing the victim card and the race card? Obama’s pastor implied Obama was poor. Well, he has sure done all right for himself and he has sure been happy to get a very expensive house even if it meant having to ask a corrupt donor to but the adjacent plot of land. Are there poor blacks in Obama’s church? Of course. Are there poor blacks all over the US? Of course. But there are also plenty of poor people of all races in this country and Obama has had a pretty good life thanks to the white people who raised him and the establishment that paid for his education.
The deeper issue here is why Obama feels such a close connection to a church that clearly is filled with black racist people who hate white people. One can imagine nothing plausible in reply except that Barack Obama indeed sees himself as an oppressed black man who needs to avenge this wrong that has been committed to him.
Yet it was his black father that chose to walk away from him and leave behind the family so that he could attend Harvard when another less prestigious school offered to pay for not only Barack’s father but also for housing / expenses for the entire family.
Barack’s black father abandoned Barack Obama. His white family raised him.
So the identity issue obviously runs deep for Barack Obama. Clearly he has found his home by playing the aggrieved black man in the privacy of his church and family while he poses as a uniter in public.
A fine life if that is what he chooses.
But a terrible person to have as president of the US.
He sounds like he needs a lot of counseling help in order to reconcile the real racial divide – namely his own identity crisis.
Instead, he is projecting his personal crisis onto the country and far too many people are buying it.
In the formerly Showtime tv show Dexter, Dexter’s serial killer brother says to Dexter’s sister something like: “You wanted to be loved so badly that you never even bothered to look closely to see what was so easy to see … that I was the ‘ice killer’”.
Much worse than a tv show, our country has far too many people who are like Dexter’s sister. Namely, they want to have unity so badly that they are unwilling to look closely enough to see that Barack Obama is not going to deliver anything like unity.
If he could, then how come he has contributed immensely to date to the most divisive campaign in the recent past? And how come one of his most prominent supporters is a man who historically created one of the most divisive democratic primaries ever – namely Ted Kennedy?
And how can you feverishly push for support from Ted Kennedy and his like when you are supposed to be a new kind of politician?
I for one am happy to pass the cup for Obama to get lots of counseling.
And, I am hoping for the good of the country that he fails in the primary.

Posted by: plrdar | March 16, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

First. I am an Obama supporter. I also realize that most churches have members of primarily one race. But this church’s web site makes clear it is not an inclusive church. In fact, it verges very much on being a black Separatist church. But then I think all churches are bogus.

Posted by: Dennis | March 16, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

I look forward to seeing your stories of John McCain’s spiritual advisers plastered all over the news reports and your blog. What about the racist vitriol spewed by Southern Baptists in the pulpits every Sunday. Yep, check it out. They do it; I know. I decided to check it out once when I lived in Alabama. This is the church of Mike Huckabee, yet I don’t recall your doing one story on that. I’m deeply troubled by the level of racism I see in the comments of this blog. By the way, I’m 60 years old, white, and female. Do I detect a bit of racism that is found in the “sin of omission”? That sin of course would be your reporting on Obama’s pastor and not others.

Posted by: lcm | March 16, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Blame the media for what was said? Did you look at the congregation during that hate speech? What does the media have to do with publishing what was going on?

Posted by: scott | March 16, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

For all those of you who just can’t comprehend how in the world Rev. Wright can spew so much “hatred,” and how Sen. Obama can listen to it, and how the UCC can tolerate anyone who does so, etc., you might want to read your own posts and notice how much hatred you are spewing, and listening to, and inviting, and feeding, and wallowing in it….but, you’re doing it for political gain. Rev. Wright was using inflammatory rhetoric to wake people up to the tragic injustices that are going on right under your nose. The same messages that have been going out from the old testament prophets for thousand of years. Nothing new here.

Posted by: Justinteim | March 16, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

I think the Trinity United Church of Christ was trying to say, “God damn the media.”

Posted by: hamishdad | March 16, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Does this letter mean they are kicking Obama out of the church?

Posted by: jeffrey | March 16, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Obama’s whole campaign is based on judgment and transcending race. now we see that he has done neither. Instead of transcending race he and his family indoctrinated themselves with racial hate every Sunday for 20 years. He is a hypocrite with pretty words.

Posted by: Suze | March 16, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,”
Just Words?
“God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”
Just words?
“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”
Just words?
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”
Just words?
In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.”
Yes, just words.

Posted by: Umbria | March 16, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

the new pastor defends the old pastor. the new pastor also clapped and danced around as the old pastor said the hateful things.
obama says there’s no need to leave the church, because there’s a new pastor.
puleeeeeze!!!

Posted by: so saddened | March 16, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

I think the reporting has been very tame on this story. The MSM has gone out of their way giving Barack free media time and softball questions. I didn’t see anything like that for Hillary. Keith Olbermann tried to knock her out with his Special Comment, now he looks like a no-class fool
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I couldn’t agree with you more. Its as if the Media somehow wants Obama to win. Definitely seems like a double standard.
Personally I still have questions… Did Obama really never hear any such sentimaents over 20 years?
Did he really never know that his 20 year spiritual adviser held these strong beliefs?
If he knew about some of those statements a year ago, why did he keep the reverand on his campaign?
It doesn;t add up for me yet.

Posted by: More Questions | March 16, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

There use to be a light around Obama- now when I see him the light is out. He is in a lose-lose situation. Neither he knew Wright was a racist- and lied, or by some miracle he didn’t know- making him one of the worst judges of charactor who ever lived who now thinks he is qualified to be the president of the USA. If the latter happens we are all going to pay the price for his lie or ignorance.

Posted by: Linda | March 16, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

limbo
Why should we take the chance? We took the chance with Bush ,look at us now.

Posted by: David | March 16, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

The Reverend Wright is a “blessing to the wider mission of the UCC”? I’m a member of the UCC and I am sickened to hear such racist crap being spouted by someone who identifies himself with my Church.

Posted by: Michael Yamnitz | March 16, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Went to a party last night and this was all the talk. Every one who was considering Obama is now voting McCain.
Barack just lost the independent vote, AND any Republicans thinking of crossing over.
Say hello to President McCain 08. :)

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Attention buletin last minute
To all those who are experiencing the “prejudice shame syndrome” this is another perspective:
I you have genuine concern about Pastor Wright words listen carefully:
The only way to prevent from Reverend Wright’words to become a prophecy it is by voting for Senator Obama.

Posted by: alma ludivina | March 16, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Obama is responsible for the people he chooses to associate with and supports.
For 20+ years, Obama and his family have sat clapping in this vile, racist, Anti-American clown’s church.
Anyone who was a “uniter,” as Obama claims he is, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who wasn’t racist, as Obama claims he isn’t, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good judgment, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who loved America, as Obama purports, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good moral character, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
OF COURSE Obama knew about the hate monger Wright. He has had a close relationship with the guy for nearly 25 years. Obama enjoyed Wright’s rhetoric and agreed with him — otherwise he would have left the church decades ago.
Obama is racist con man. Nothing more.

Posted by: Trene | March 16, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

It is easy to tell when Obama is lying – his lips are moving. This guy has no resume, no backbone, no character (obvious by his chosen circle of friends)and obviously lacks intelligence. He can hardly speak when not reading from a script and is often dumbfounded by even simply questions. He has no ability to think on his feet.

Posted by: jon | March 16, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

I was not a Barack supporter until this came to light, I am now.

Posted by: Frederick | March 16, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

I am truly deflated today. I can’t reconcile that Barack did not hear any of these hate-filled sermons over a 20-year period. It just doesn’t compute or make sense. And, I was so psyched and inspired. What a fool I am – what a fool we have been. Barack has let us down, but so has the press — it should have been on this stuff months ago instead of the unprofessional love-fest that was going on

Posted by: Disappointed | March 16, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Obama and his wife are bailing out the boat as fast as they can and it is still sinking..

Posted by: Pat M | March 16, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

The Reverend Wright is a “blessing to the wider mission of the UCC”? I’m a member of the UCC and I am sickened to hear such racist crap being spouted by someone who identifies himself with my Church.
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There are conservative UCC congregations, aren’t there? :-).
I’ll bet your church is real mixed racially. . .or would that sicken you too?

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

It is too convenient how whenever something controversial comes up, Obama never seems to be PRESENT. Maybe he can get away with that as a Senator, but not as a President.

Posted by: Robert | March 16, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

If you can find that McCain was a member of Falwell or Robertson’s church for 20 years, let him marry him, baptize his children and give about $25,00 a year and call him his mentor and help write his book and let him help on the campaign……let me know.
Otherwise your comparisons aren’t worth crap.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Sorry, but Obama is going to have to take the heat.
He is too smart to have been going to this church, married by this pastor, have this pastor baptize his kids and call him a spiritual mentor and not have realized what type of ideals Wright held. So, there are two possibilities…
He knew, in which case his judgement was sorely lacking to not find a new church and spiritual mentor sooner…
Or, he didn’t know, in which case he is obviously naive and not as smart as I thought…
As for the 2 minutes of hate in 37 years of service… The left is perfectly willing to take down politicians on the right if they make one single statement, or are connected to one single state ment made by someone else… regardless of their personal service.
And we aren’t talking about anything this divisive or offensive.
To read some of the stories, one might think it took a lot of work to find these statements. The Church sells a DVD with a best of… and this was considered some of his “best” sermon moments.
Any other politician would have been smeared into the ground by now, but Obama has managed to not bite it yet. If he does survive, I don’t think he’ll make it through the general election. At some point, some reporter is going to corner him and lead him into a question he can’t answer… and they are going to press it. Hillary isn’t much better off… she’ll get a tough question too.
Luckily for McCain, his skeletons are already out of the closet. The only thing the left can do to him is try to paint him with the “Bush brush.”

Posted by: Lane | March 16, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

The best lie Reverend Wright is pushing is that even Pearl Harbor is a lie!
Please God, let Obama win the primary because this will be a slam dunk for McCain!

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

The spark was out of Obama during his speech in Plainfield, IN. He kept saying um and ah all the time. Kind of felt like his heart is no longer in it.

Posted by: Jackie | March 16, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Apparently even Oprah use to attend this church but it got to be too much for her. Either that or she knew this would not sit well with her mostly white audience of stay at home moms.
If Oprah had the sense to leave, why didn’t Obama?
OBAMA IS A LIAR. Get use to it.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

This mob mentality is pathetic. One lame comment stemming from it is that the media is being “soft” on Obama. LOL! Let’s hold up some of McCain’s “spiritual advisers” like Haggee, Falwell, etc. to the same standard that they do Rev. Wright. And where is Hilliary’s “spiritual adviser,” unless its Geraldine Ferraro, and let the media unleash the mob on them? This is nothing but maliciousness on the part of the media, and a feeding frenzy by hate-mongers, already aligned with the Clinton and the McCain camps, posing as indignant, and self-righteous “moralists.” Back at you!

Posted by: Justinteim | March 16, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

I hope all of you remember that Barack Obama and his wife and children are decent human beings who have never harmed anyone, who go to church (whether you like their church or not), who get up and eat breakfast and go to bed every night like most of us do. It’s sickening to see so many “Christian” people rabidly attacking a man THEY DO NOT KNOW based on the TWO sermons of a man THEY DO NOT KNOW. The man preached for 36 years, and they have two sermons, one of which came on the tail of 9/11 when I imagine a lot of us were thinking or even saying hateful things about our fellow human beings, and you judge his entire BEING by that? I daresay that if any one of you were judged by some of your less proud moments, surely you’d be condemned to prison or hell. At the very least, don’t claim to be true Christians if you’re going to spout this kind of venom. You should be ashamed.

Posted by: Megan | March 16, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Please God, let Obama win the primary because this will be a slam dunk for McCain!
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Is Rev. Wright running for President?
Now don’t get too excited. We haven’t heard from McCain’s “spiritual”advisers yet. And I’d sure like to listen to the sermons of the minister who oversaw his divorce and adultery.
Surely ABC intends to look for potentially damaging “ministers’ for every candidate.

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

I seriously question Obama for marrying that hate filled women Michelle. All the signs were there from day one. Did he read her theisus?

Posted by: susan | March 16, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Reverend Wright served this country, only to return to the Jim Crow legacy of White Only/Black Only accommodations. He has been hosed with high energy water and attacked by dogs.
He has every right to spew his feelings in his own church and amongst his own constituents. Obama did not have the same legacy, so it is easy to see that Obama could not agree with Reverend Wright’s feelings.
Dang, if my grandmother was living, she could tell you horrible stories of slavery. I listened, but could not relate. My grandmother refused to watch the program Roots, because it was terrible memories for her. However, her feelings did not stop me from watching.
You can agree to disagree.
More important, what have any of you ever done for this country?

Posted by: Jack | March 16, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

What is so vile about a black minister expressing outrage at how this country has treated blacks? It’s not like this is all this minister talks about or does. Here he devotes himself to caring for others who have little voice, power, or resources (see church response in news for list of accomplishments), and yet we can’t tolerate a little anger. Patriotism should be about pride in our striving for a democratic society – not in deluding ourselves that we’ve already achieved it for everyone. How sad is it that Barack has to distance himself from black anger to show he’s American enough to be president.

Posted by: PeterD | March 16, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

to whom it may concern:
i think it`s actually good that the remarks of rev. wright came out.it should show you that many feelings and thoughts are still kept under the rug concerning how many african-americans ,especially those who have lived through the racism of the 50s and 60s see america.the psychological aspect of racism can not be underestimated.now that doesn`t mean that everything he said was right,because i don`t,but i think it does reveal the frustration and anger felt in many black communitys devastated by crime and lack of positive leadership.some should be dealt with by oneself not just blaming “the white man”,but it should be taken in wider context as a result of segregation,which in an ironic way lasted longer,then nazism in germany.i would even suggest that in many ways it`s a generational problem,that will take time and effort from many to solve.
p.s.a quote from a man who i would say is now considered a great american hero,but was called a traitor not so far back.
“No Viet Cong ever called me Ni**er” – Muhammad Ali

Posted by: history in the making! | March 16, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

You people all prove the point that was preached about you.
I think a people and a nation gets the country and leaders it deserves. America deserved GW Bush and everything that happened under him just like Iraq and Sudan.
At this point I am almost gleeful to see America and all of you get what you so very much deserve. If it means that me and mine must go too, than I will go wearing a smile.
I once had a friend from Tuskeegee Ala. The kind of sweet, soft spoken dare not offend with a challenging word little black girls that all you vehemently upset white folks would find quite tolerable. She came home one day when the Bakke decision came down regarding Reverse Discrimination so livid that she literally shook violently with rage. I, the brazen black girl from Brooklyn that made the white folks uncomfortable when I walked in the room, asked her what was the matter. She told me about the decision. I wondered what about that decision surprised or upset her as I would expect no more from the US Supreme Court of the day. She said,
Well my granddaddy was a specimen in teh Tuskeegee Institute Syphlis experiments, yet if we speak of racial discrimination to white people they insist it does not exist anymore and absolutely cannot see it; but now that it is supposedly “reversed” discrimination, they have no problem seeing discrimination at all.
Ha….but dare we even dream those chickens could come home to roost.
Good night

Posted by: shelgirl | March 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Kevin, how does one “oversee” a divorce and adultery? lol. Nice try.
Obama is history and you know it and most of the leftwing blogs seem to know it. They still think he’ll win the primary, but they KNOW he won’t win the general.
And anyone in Public Relations knows this spiritual mentor of Obama’s lost him the election.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

20082009,
I don’t have any problems. And, 40-50 years is not long ago. I am old enough to have a second generation of living grandparents involved in slavery.
And how are you doing?

Posted by: Jack | March 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

I am still trying to figure out half of Wright’s jibberish. What does “riding dirty” mean? “Chickens come home to roost”?
I can envision some of the initmate mentoring conversations Obama and Wright must have had. Scary.
Obama did not go to a church until he started to go to this church in his late 20′s.Wright’s theology is what has molded Obama religious growth.Scary.
Don’t forget that Oprah Winfrey has also gone to this church. Scary.
If the MSM would start reporting fairly. Far more things would come up on Obama. At least with Clinton you know what you’re getting.
I am a republican and could possibly vote for Clinton but NEVER would I vote for Obama.

Posted by: suzie | March 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

This is definitely not unity.
Obama you have already failed.

Posted by: Eric | March 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

I do feel really sorry for Reverend Wright. It is wrong to judge him and demonize based on such little information. I hope you get a chance to learn more about him. And I do not think his association is really going to hate Obama because if there are two things I am sure about regarding Obama, they are: (1) He is not racist; he’s a uniter and (2) he is patriotic (he’s worked tirelessly in the public sector for much much less money than he could have made in the private sector.

Posted by: marilyn | March 16, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Trent Lott was forced to resign simply for calling Strom Thurmond a “good” man. Does anyone really believe that if Ckinton attended a church that only once or twice preached white supremacy we could hear ourselves over the howls of protest? Liberal America, get a grip for heaven’s sake. This is Obama’s pastor of 20 years!!!!!

Posted by: Peggy | March 16, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Shel Girl, you just prove our point.
No one wants to take a chance that Obama feels the same as Reverend Wright.
It’s not worth it.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Blacks are not the only people who commit crimes. Many white men are in our prisons for incest and rape. That is just as wrong, maybe worse. You carry those things with you forever. Many blacks commit crimes because of their home lives. Let us not forget to be parents and teach our children right from wrong. Not Black from White.

Posted by: Limbo | March 16, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

If Howard Dean didn’t deserve to be President because he yelled too loud, then Obama certainly does not stand a chance with all this baggage.

Posted by: sitting1 | March 16, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

FISHING FOR TRUTH says:
“Well we finally got the truth! Newsmax.com just posted the fact that Sen.Obama was at Trinity on July 22nd, while the church spewed HATRED. In fact, he was their with one of Newsmax, reporters. Sen. Obama must have forgotten. I don’t blame him I don’t remember what I wore last week to church. Let’s see how he gets himself out of this one.”
TRY AGAIN –
Obama was not in Church July 22nd
Check factcheck
DO YOU PEOPLE JUST SAY ANYTHING??

Posted by: alison | March 16, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

This is definitely not unity.
Obama you have already failed.
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Uh…how has Obama failed?

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Megan: Read you own post again – you are accusing people of attacking Obama,”A MAN THEY DO NOT KNOW”!! You see, that’s just the problem, we don’t know him! We know the words that come out of his mouth, but it’s only in the last few weeks, thanks to Fox and ABC, we have begun to see the man behind the beautiful speeches. And you know what? Some of us just don’t like what we’re seeing.

Posted by: Grammy Barb | March 16, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

I think I know what heal this rift and bring everyone together. Let’s have Obama, Rezko, Wright and the whole hate filled congregation sing a remake of “We Are the World”.

Posted by: jarid | March 16, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Senior citizens vote in droves and none of them will vote for Obama after this. They are a very very patriotic generation.
The worst thing Obama did the other night was say he never attended a sermon where this stuff was preached.
That is easily proven, and now he’s toast.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Reverend WrightIs FULL of HATE and Is A Racist.
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You failed American history, didn’t you?

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

I respect obama even more now. It is difficult to be the product of a generation that feel oppressed and bitter and still have that intellect, integrity and honesty to move on from that and look at the world in his own eyes.
The reality is that there are enough Black preachers and Blacks who have pent up feelings and express that in such bitter rhetoric.
The difference is that Obama has moved beyond that and his words and deeds in his 18 years of public life is testament to that.

Posted by: Venkat | March 16, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

They are a very very patriotic generation
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How do you become “very, very patriotic?” Is that reserved for people owning TWO American flags made in China?
Don’t tell us how Americans are going to vote. The only thing certain is that people are fed up with more-of-the-same, and the kinds of comments flooding this site from conservatives is an indication that Republicans are incapable of doing anything other than more-of-the-same.
Seniors are interested in health care and prescription drugs. You know, grown-up concerns.

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

For all of you who say Rev Wright has the right to say what he wants….that is not the point.
For all of you who say that racism was terrible and whites just don’t understand….that is not the point.
For all of you who say what Rev Wright said was “the truth”….that is not the point.
The FACT is, 90% of Americans DO NOT FEEL THIS WAY….and they DO NOT want to wait until Obama is in the White House to find out if he does.
Period. End of story. Obama better quit worrying about being president, and better focus on just getting reelected senator in a few years.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

As has been said before: The great UNITER becomes the great DIVIDER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: John | March 16, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

It’s amazing to me how many of you say that Obama is indeed a racist and his mother is WHITE. Not to mention that most of you are spewing hate yourselves by suggesting that Obama go back to Africa. And to say that if someone doesn’t like some of the things of this country in turn makes you unpatriotic is insane. I don’t believe that anyone can honestly say that America has and can do no wrong. (i.e. slavery,lenching, the treatment of Native Americans and people of color in general, views towards education for our children (or the lack thereof), healthcare, war in Iraq, etc.)
There’s nothing wrong with churches who consist of one particular race. A great number of churches consist of people who reside in the surrounding areas. Therefore if there’s Latino, White, Black, or Asian individuals living in the area of a church then that for the most part will be the make-up.
Also we are all aware that the rich of America runs America. Money TALKS!That’s why most voters have a problem with Bush’s ideology towards taxes, and why we Americans say that the rich keep getting richer. And since Whites make up 80% of America’s population the likelihood that the rich would consist of Whites is highly likely. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or mathematician to figure this out. So let’s not blow this out of proportion as if we as a nation have not been stating this.
So let’s be a wise people. People of true discernment, and not let the media or the perjudice and racist views of others deter us from supporting our candidate of choice. Whether Obama or Hillary.
I personally will be voting for Obama!

Posted by: Jessica | March 16, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Journalists should investigate what options Obama had with respect to black churches in the Chicago area. My understanding is that were only a handful.
The fact that Obama and Wright can so profoundly disagree, and yet remain friends, is a testament to Obama’s capacity to hear other points of view. It does not mean that Obama accepts every word that has ever come out of Wright’s mouth. The notion is ridiculous.
Does Hilary even have a pastor? What’s his story?

Posted by: Thought McGee | March 16, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

5 days after 9/11, while most normal Americans were still grief stricken and mourning, Rev. Wright was spewing some of the most hateful rhetoric ever.
He couldn’t even wait a few Sundays! He had to start with the Hate America/Blame America crap on the FIRST SUNDAY after 9/11.
That speaks VOLUMES!

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Every Sunday, across our country, church members show up on Sunday and listen to a sermon. They take with them some of what they hear and discard what they may not agree with… then continue on with their daily life. Do you really believe that all 19,000 active members of John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church, don’t allow their children to read Harry Potter, or are all ready to support a war with Iran, or agree with him that “Hurricane Katrina was an act of God, punishing New Orleans…”?
The uniters of the world are those people, like Barack Obama, who have a broad base of life experiences to draw upon.
“It is the duty of men to judge men only by their actions. Our faculties furnish us with no means of arriving at the motive, the character, the secret self. We call the tree good from its fruits, and the man, from his works. ” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
I thought that was great i dececied to repost it. I want black people to want more for themselves does that make me a separatist? Do I agree with some of the things the rev said? Yes not all but some. Do I think he should apologies? No. This is this mans opinions, based on how he views America based on his experiences. I look forward to seeing the rev on 60minutes soon. Oh and they have been playing this story now for well over a year.

Posted by: MVPSDAD | March 16, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

No Brian,
Just stop taking advantages of the privileges it bestowed on white people.
That’s all.
I am sure you can look around in your circle, especially your job, and see more qualified black people than their white counterparts who are in management/supervisory positions.
You see it. Come on.
If you don’t want to own up to slavery, than don’t own up to the rewards.

Posted by: Jack | March 16, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

For those of you who are deciding not to cast your vote for Obama because of what you heard Wright say, you are casting your vote in ignorance. You owe it to yourself, your children, your country, and your fellow Americans to learn about Obama because you will be arriving at a wrong conclusion. Obama has lived his life talking about unity and taking action that was unifying in nature. Please just take FIVE MINUTES to check out his web-site, google him, something! (I can understand if you don’t vote for him for another reason, such as you are anti-choice, or you think we need to stay in Iraq longer, but not because you think he is racist or unpatriotic. That would truly be a mistake.)

Posted by: marilyn | March 16, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Obama is addicted to hate. He married the hate filled Michelle and he joined a hate filled church. Those poor Obama children. I feel sorry for them.

Posted by: sarah | March 16, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Even a child is known by his actions; by whether his conduct is pure and right. Bad company corrupts good behavior. No one is perfect. Perhaps we are try to make these people running for President into a savior. If that is true, shame on us for being so individually weak. However, they cannot believe that we will ignore their alliances and believe that once in the White House they would make better decisions! We need to see good decision making NOW.

Posted by: BA | March 16, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Obama’s mother was white, his grandparents who raised him and gave him an education were white.( Of Irish Decent)
As he says he has bits of America all in him.
I think he is brilliant and used the opportunity to deal with Wright which was always a contentious issue, and Resco with openness.
And in case you haven’t noticed, and why would you with the Media not informing you, he picked up 10 more delegates from Iowa and it looks like Edwards delegates are breaking for him.
Putting that in context he got more delegates this weekend than Hillary’s win in Ohio, that huge.
Ladies and gentleman your looking at one of the best political minds of the 21st century,

Posted by: Andrew Ntanda | March 16, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

NewsMax tried to distort reality even more than usual immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks by ham-handedly denouncing anything that could be remotely construed as criticism of President Bush with terms starting with “anti-Americanism” and going all the way to “treason.”
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Yep. And these conservatives who are so obsessed with trashing Obama here really think no one can catch on to their rhetoric.
It’s a great education though – when anyone is so scared of a political candidate to launch such a fear-and-smear campaign, we know there are no morals or ethics in their being. And we definitely know they don’t “love” their country one little bit, because loving it requires being willing to face truth.
It is bad enough that the media accepts these professional liars as “Christian” – as if even the most elementary Sunday School lesson never included “Thou shalt not lie”. . .

Posted by: Kevin | March 16, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

Spycat – “We” are not sorry for slavery. I had nothing to do with it. Neither did any of my ancestors. The same applies to tens of millions of White Americans. That is precisely why the concept of “white privilege” had to be invented. That way, no white is free of the “original sin” of “white privilege.” Clever, huh?
Funny how nobody ever seems to accuse Africans of “black privilege.” After all, it was their ancestors who sold their own people into slavery in the first place. The slave trade relied on African tribal wars to provide slaves in the first place. You won’t hear Jeremiah Wright talking about that ugly little fact though.
The white man ended the practice of slavery. In parts of Africa, it still continues today.

Posted by: Brian | March 16, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

We told yo so! Next time get to know the candidates you are so quick to “worship.”

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

There is not much differnce in voting for Hillary or Obama, there both progressive socialists. Hillary does have more experience, while Obama is hoping for more.
McCain 08 – Stop any form of socialism !

Posted by: Chris | March 16, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

I am tired those who hate in us thats all I love everyone but maybe there full of hate

Posted by: Debbie | March 16, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Marilyn, it is YOU who need to get to know Obama. Websites do not tell us of someone’s character. People’s actions tell us. Choosing to sit and listen to this hatemonger for 20 years is an ACTION.
Wake up.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

So you anti-Obama folks are PROUD of slavery, segeration and the genocide of the American Indian? Just curious…

Posted by: Erin McSweeney | March 16, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

I am a Democrat – Due to all this BS posting etc. I Will be voting for McCain. Stop this crap or many more will cross over.

Posted by: Megan | March 16, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Just curious. Is it possible to do anything but “spew” hate? I mean couldn’t you express hate? Preach hate? Encourage hate? Espouse hate? Express hate?
The word “spew” should be banned from the Internet.

Posted by: Spewie | March 16, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Why would anyone be proud of this country after what Bush has done in Iraq? Decent people are deeply, deeply ashamed of what the Republicans have done in our name. Only fools and fascists are proud of the US right now – and they are precisely the people who need to be reigned in for the good of the nation.

Posted by: Eric Westerbrand | March 16, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Dorinda, none of us are running for President, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

I think the complain is at least partially valid that the media reduces Mr. Wright’s service to a 30-second sound bit, neglecting his 30-year history.

Posted by: catiger | March 16, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Well, the way I look at this, so far, is that unless I hear those words coming from Obama’s mouth (which I haven’t heard yet) – then I’ll just chalk this pastor person into the same pile of 9-11 Nitwits like that French Actress whatever person.
I have heard the Clintons make race-based statements with my very own ears, and so I won’t vote for them. Nothing that can sway me otherwise.
And if Obama can be found to have done the same, the Democratic Party will have to pick a third candidate, or I’ll vote for McCain.
But to just blame Obama for this nutjob would be just as pointless as to blame McCain for that rightwing reverend. Or call all Oklahomans antigay, because that politician shot her mouth off.
But I find it interesting the church says “oh, it was just a snippet”. pffth. As far as I’m concerned, 30 seconds of hate is the same as 30 years. Everyone saw the video clip – I can’t see how you can spin that as something that isn’t “9-11 Conspiracy Theorist Wacknuttiness”
But this is the REAL problem when you force your politicians to outdo themselves with their religiosity. For all we know, Obama maybe hit this church on Easter and Xmas, and the rest of his Sundays shooting hoops with his colleages.

Posted by: Chicka | March 16, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

This is not a time to gamble. We know less about Obama and whatever we have come to know lately are not at all good. So vote using your brain, do not gamble. You will decide the futuere of this country.

Posted by: GS | March 16, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Hey T.P. – if my brother-in-law’s uncle’s mother’s second cousin was Nigerian, would that mean I couldn’t be a racist? Sweet!

Posted by: Brian | March 16, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Hi,
can someone please explain if Wright is truly Obama’s “spiritual adviser”?
Otherwise this doesn’t matter.

Posted by: Jas | March 16, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

I have to agree with the other comment about Oprah. Being from Chicago, she had to know about Rev. Wright. What was she thinking?

Posted by: g | March 16, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Obama has been a member of this racist church for 20 years! Need I say more?

Posted by: Dodie Weisbrod | March 16, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I am a UCC pastor. Our Church recognizes the liberty of the pulpit. We believe that the Holy Spirit guides our leaders when they give their sermons. Who am I to judge? I pray for my church and all its pastors who are trying to faithfully serve God in these days. John

Posted by: John | March 16, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

The fact that Trinity Church and Obama defend this so-called minister is very troubling. Wright’s words stand on their own. This is hate rhetoric pure and simple, the kind used by Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and other true enemies of freedom. For Wright to hide behind Christianity is an abomination. For Obama to defend Wright is pure hypocrisy. For the Trinity Church to promote such rhetoric is unacceptable. This rhetoric did not work in the 1960′s ( as Obama referenced), it only led to the burning of the inner cities. This church should be shut down and Obama should withdraw.

Posted by: Roy Swanson | March 16, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Yeah, right. Blame the Messenger. Nice try Church.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 16, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

pepsiloverforever – who sold the slaves to the Americans? It was usually the Dutch and the Portuguese, and, to a lesser extent, the British, the Spanish and the French. Later, Americans would travel to the West Coast of Africa and buy them direct. But if you go to Goree Island or Banjul Gambia, you’ll see that most of the big slave forts were built by the Portugeuse.

Posted by: True American | March 16, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

The Obama apologists out there really are too much. Isn’t it obvious that Obama can’t claim that he “abhor(s) divisive politics” AND simultaneously support this pastor for nearly 20 years (Obama has called Pastor Wright his “mentor”). At the very least it brings Obama’s judgment into question. More ominously it suggests that Obama’s platform is not based on “Change you can believe in” but rather a campaign based on duplicity and hypocrisy.

Posted by: Rob S | March 16, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Its ok for Obama to use cocaine in the past, its ok for him to be a plagiarist, It is ok to a have a racist as his spiritual advisor,take his kids to this church, lie that he never heard him give hate speech, its ok that he took $250,000 from Rezko, now say he had a significant relationship with him in the California debate he said he didnt have a significant relationship with him, its ok that he will be the least qualified person to be President in the history of the Country at these trying times. Its ok that he is friends with the weather underground terroist – NO THANK YOU – Great Example For Our Children!

Posted by: John in Cape May | March 16, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

John – so if a white pastor at UCC were to blame blacks for their own suffering and suggest that they pull themselves out of their victimhood mindset, would that be chalked up to the “liberty of the pulpit?”

Posted by: Brian | March 16, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I noticed that most blacks prefer to live on the past in the minds of salvery, but see the native Americans were slaughtered and they can’t even all speak up for there rights, people need to be thinkful there all alive here, and stop hatred

Posted by: Debbie | March 16, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

Betty C,
I don’t hate Obama. I disklike hate speech, and I don’t support those that show support for it by appointing hate speakers to their campaigns, even if they take speedy action a year later to disavow it. This is a case of and actions which show poor judgement. Obama does not get my support today.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 16, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

pepsiloverforever – Nice try, but Europeans created the market for slaves and the plantation system. Europeans built the ships and the slave forts and the entire slave economy from the Southern States to the Caribbean to Brazil. If individual Africans and Native Americans participated in the slave trade it was strictly on the periphery and does NOT exonerate the collective guilt of the Europeans and their descendants in the new world.

Posted by: True American | March 16, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

I wonder what Oprah Winfrey thinks about Rev. Wright’s comments? Just curious…

Posted by: Tony | March 16, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

pespiloverforever: “True American and please tell us who sold the slaves to the american, …, ” Wow, you are true anti-racism crusador! Don’t you feel outraged that slavary is actually illegal? Yes, you should ask your president to re-act slavary. Go for it! You probably will get a lot of support on this forum. Look, there are so many anti-racism crusadors who are ready to attack, physically attack those churchs. Well, not that this is any news.

Posted by: catiger | March 16, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

I was an Obama supporter until I looked into his real history (not the rose-tinted media version). He is a dangerous radical and his whole history is tainted by black supremacist views. It’s in his book if you bother to read it. This is like the Germans voting in Hitler and not reading Mein Kampf.
I will vote against Obama if he is ever in a position to take the White House.

Posted by: GBN | March 16, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

True American – so what exactly is your solution?

Posted by: Big Jim | March 16, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

g – if you believe this nonsense, then you are a rightwing nut. At least have the courage to own up to that fact.

Posted by: Diamond Dave | March 16, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Article:
Obama’s Minister Committed “Treason”, but When My Father Said the Same Thing, He Was a Republican “Hero”

Posted by: Marcia | March 16, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Any Pastor who can spew what this man spewed from the pulpit is nothing short of being the Devil himself. To even think of say GD while preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ he is ONE SICK PUPPY. Would you rather this comes out AFTER he were President. This man is a disgrace and has been mentioned thoroughly in a book called Revelations. Pray for us all.

Posted by: usa67us | March 16, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

To: considering things
How can we ever discern a wolf in sheep’s clothing when outward appearance looks like a sheep?
To me, the ministries developed by Rev Wright to help the community are good things (taken by themselves). However, because these are done through Rev Wright’s ministries, I am focused not on just those good works but the heart message from the pulpit.
Here are Obama’s actions.
- Attending this particular church for 20 years when there are many other churches in Chicago that are not polarizing, but unifying.
- Obama chose to maintain a very close relationship with Rev Wright.

Posted by: keval | March 16, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

I feel sorry for all the children, including the Obama children, attending a service with that vile hatefilled racist Rev. Wright. In my opinion, he not a man of the cloth. if I ever heard a minister talk in this manner, the exit door would be in full use. Obama stayed for 21 years !!!

Posted by: carlson | March 16, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Big Jim – my solution? People should grow the hell up, learn some history about this country and stop whining about a non-issue. Problem solved.

Posted by: True American | March 16, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

20/20 once did a special on Blacks In America. The blacks born here had horrible attitudes. The blacks who came here from places where they were majority, where their country was in ruins, have great attitudes, and find no problem in succeeding.
People like Rev. Wright seem to want to MAKE SURE the blacks remain “down.” Why? Race mongering is big business. You ought to see the nice home Rev Wright lives in.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

In his Friday night cable mea culpas on the incendiary comments made by his spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., repeatedly said, “I wasn’t in church during the time that these statement were made. I did not hear such incendiary language myself, personally. Either in conversations with him or when I was in the pew, he always preached the social gospel. … If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit. … If I thought that was the repeated tenor of the church, then I wouldn’t feel comfortable there.”
Obama told CNN that he “didn’t know about all these statements. I knew about one or two of these statements that had been made. One or two statements would not lead me to distance myself from either my church or my pastor. … If I had thought that was the tenor or tone on an ongoing basis, then yes, I don’t think it would have been reflective of my values.”
But according to a New York Times story from a year ago, the Obama campaign dis-invited Wright from delivering a public invocation at Obama’s candidacy announcement.
“Fifteen minutes before Shabbos I get a call from Barack,” Wright told the Times. “One of his members had talked him into uninviting me.”
In a phone call with Wright, Obama cited a Rolling Stone story, “The Radical Roots of Barack Obama,” (the name of which has curiously been changed on the RS website) and told him, according to Wright, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”
That story included the following passage: “The Trinity United Church of Christ, the church that Barack Obama attends in Chicago, is at once vast and unprepossessing, a big structure a couple of blocks from the projects, in the long open sore of a ghetto on the city’s far South Side. The church is a leftover vision from the Sixties of what a black nationalist future might look like. There’s the testifying fervor of the black church, the Afrocentric Bible readings, even the odd dashiki. And there is the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a sprawling, profane bear of a preacher, a kind of black ministerial institution, with his own radio shows and guest preaching gigs across the country. Wright takes the pulpit here one Sunday and solemnly, sonorously declares that he will recite 10 essential facts about the United States. ‘Fact number one: We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,’ he intones. ‘Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!’ There is thumping applause; Wright has a cadence and power that make Obama sound like John Kerry. Now the reverend begins to preach. ‘We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional KILLERS. … We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. … We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. … We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means!” The crowd whoops and amens as Wright builds to his climax: ‘And. And. And! GAWD! Has GOT! To be SICK! OF THIS S***!’”
This was more than a year ago.
So … what did Obama know then and what did he just all of a sudden learn?

Posted by: Jane | March 16, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Is this article real or planted??
Obama Attended Hate America Sermon
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size
Contrary to Senator Barack Obama’s claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor’s incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as “inflammatory and appalling” but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.
In his press release, Obama claimed, “The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation.”
Appearing on cable news shows this past weekend, Obama claimed when he heard Wright make such comments as “God damn America” he was “shocked” – implying the reverend had not used such derogatory language in any of the church services he attended over the past two decades.
If Obama’s claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted “white” America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright’s reputation for spewing hate is well known.
In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. [See: ”Obama’s Church: Cauldron of Division.”
In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the “United States of White America” and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright’s attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.
Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”
Obama’s most famous celebrity backer, Oprah Winfrey began attending Wright’s church in 1984. Last year, Newsmax magazine reported that Winfrey abruptly stopped attending years ago, and suggested that she did so to distance herself from Wright’s inflammatory rhetoric. She soon found herself a target of Wright, who excoriated her for having broken with “traditional faith.”

Posted by: rgutty | March 16, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

I don’t care what else the Pastor had done. When he jumps up and down and screams God Damn America the Sunday ater 911 and his congregation is all jumping up and down and agreeing with him he has said all I ever want to hear from that man. give him a bar of soap and have his wash that filthy mouth of his out. Also give one to his friend Barak Obama who looks into the cameras and tells the citizens of this country that he didn’t know that his minister, uncle, spiritual advisor, pastor, felt like that. And he thinks he has the judgement to become President. I don’t think so.

Posted by: lola | March 16, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Diamond Dave, Yes, Obama accepted his blackness in the most negative way. There are so many, many African Americans who live fabulous lives and are so positive. The issue of black or white never comes up because there is so much else they can bring in to the conversation. Yet, Obama chose to bring in the black part and refused to accept the muslim part of his father — why — because black suited his agenda and muslim did not. That is pretty obvious — why else did he associate with Wright who spews hate on everyone else who is not black and blames everyone else who is not black. Obama had a choice and yet he chose negativity and he talks about change and being a uniter — he must laugh at all those americans who have followed him blindly. I am not one. I may not laugh on election day atleast I will have the satisfaction of not being hoodwinked by Obama.

Posted by: Voter | March 16, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Steven – you mean like Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart? Oh wait… they weren’t black… maybe it’s ALL pastors that need to be investigated? LOL

Posted by: Ann Gables | March 16, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Debbie: “…stop hatred” Yes! On both sides!
after people like pespiloverforever stop glorifying slavary.
after the young man in Hillary Clinton’s audience realized that hatred is not tolerated.

Posted by: catiger | March 16, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

True American – No, I mean about the slavery issue. Regardless of history, do you love your country? Do you find good in it? Would you rather live anywhere else? I just can’t relate to people who seem to spend every waking breath slamming the U.S. What a miserable existence!

Posted by: Big Jim | March 16, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Marilyn: I fear most participating in this thread are not and never were supporters of Obama. It seems as though they are looking for a reason to hate and marginalize him and in doing so are attempting to lend relevancy to their heated rhetoric. For if some were Obama supporters and had second-thoughts solely after hearing the Reverend’s rant, their support was soft to begin with, which is yet another reason to believe they were never a supporter of Obama.
Change can be very intimidating to some. Although many may pontificate of a desire to see things change for the better, many feel safe and secure in the status quo. Much of the venom being released on this thread is “anti change” but staunchly “pro-status quo”. If someone uproots a sermon from the Reverend that declares his belief that the Earth is indeed flat, many on this thread will anoint him The People’s Reverend overnight.

Posted by: David | March 16, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

My African American mother always said, “You can tell when you are doing great things, that is when the devil gets busy.”
Obama has brought America to its feet. The dialogue on the Blogosphere is more fiery than any of Rev Wrights comments. He is right. This country was a mess, is a mess and will continue to be dysfunctional mess until it starts to deal with its inconvenient truths: slavery, hate, and fear of a non-white president.

Posted by: truth | March 16, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

So let me get this straight. Obama wants us to believe that after a close, 25-year relationship with Jeremiah Wright and tens of thousands of dollars in donations that he only this week discovered through the media that Wright was a hateful, racist, anti-American radical?
Obama has the audicity to hope that Americans are very, very dumb. He’s wrong. Goodbye sweet racist prince of deceit and hatred.

Posted by: Trene | March 16, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

twice the system has not allowed me to post a comment about a video that can be found

Posted by: plrdar | March 16, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

lola: “…God Damn America the Sunday ater 911 …”
Many conservative priests said the same or similar things immediately after 9-11 too. Were you so outraged?

Posted by: catiger | March 16, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

After hearing Rev. Wright’s racial hate speech, it is downright comical that Barack dared to criticize Geraldine Ferraro.
What a sham this man is.

Posted by: J | March 16, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

I was a casual Obama supporter (yes, I was so don’t bother telling me I wasn’t) and I now see the true hate that his followers exhibit not only in the blogs but in person. Since I have decided to support another candidate I am receiving attacking phone calls and e-mails. What an eye opener.

Posted by: james | March 16, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Big Jim – first of all, I think the “slavery issue” was settled once and for in 1865 by President Lincoln. But to answer the rest of your question, of course I love my country – it’s absurd and childish to think otherwise. But when did loving your country preclude all criticism of it? I love my son, too, but I know that when he does wrong it’s my job to criticize him and teach him to do the right thing. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

Posted by: True American | March 16, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

It’s unfortunate that Obama’s campaign set the tone so there could not be an open discussion (or even a mention) of race and gender issues without someone being called a racist. The country badly needs this discussion. I guess Obama did not need it because he was hearing a one-sided view of it at his church. Hillary’s followers cannot say anything without being accused of racisim. Who is going to start a civil discussion? I cannot vote for Mr. Obama because he was brave enough to openly discuss race issues.

Posted by: ccbgt74 | March 16, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

It’s unfortunate that Obama’s campaign set the tone so there could not be an open discussion (or even a mention) of race and gender issues without someone being called a racist. The country badly needs this discussion. I guess Obama did not need it because he was hearing a one-sided view of it at his church. Hillary’s followers cannot say anything without being accused of racisim. Who is going to start a civil discussion? I cannot vote for Mr. Obama because he was brave enough to openly discuss race issues.

Posted by: ccbgt74 | March 16, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

The point is that white people wants to be loved by everybody. That’s the result of their superiority complex. They think they are the sh**%t.
They can’t comprehend when somebody, or a group, do not have love for them.
So many white people were stunned after the 9/11 attacks. They were all saying, “what did we do to them, why are they doing this, we never harmed anybody, how can they hate us and don’t even know us?”
Yeah, right.
Rosie O’Donnell even blamed 9/11 on the U.S. A lot of Americans have questions about the attack.

Posted by: Jack | March 16, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

entitled “Common at Trinity On New Year’s 2008″

Posted by: plrdar | March 16, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I know for you people who had everything riding on the new Messiah, it is painful to realize you’ve been “had.”
Go ahead and admit you were wrong, that makes it easier to go forward. Just don’t be hoodwinked again.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

David — Excellent Post.
I agree with you 100%.
Participating in this discussion is a waste of my time.
OBAMA ’08

Posted by: Sam | March 16, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Voter – so, in other words, you don’t like uppity negroes who step out of line? Gotcha.

Posted by: Diamond Dave | March 16, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

sermon includes “we are voting for our man Barack Obama”

Posted by: plrdar | March 16, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

the minister blamed the “white arrogance” of America’s Caucasian majority for the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.
I would actually agree with the minister, although I am not black.

Posted by: catiger | March 16, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

If Obama becomes President we may as well kiss each other goodbye. I think Oprah does alot of good for people that need it, but she is wrong about Obama. I think there are some people who think when she says something it must be true and we should all listen. I can agree with her about alot of things, but not this time. I wonder if Oprah is really who we think she is. Wake up people, Obama is not who you think he is. He is not going to do anything but hurt our country.

Posted by: Pat | March 16, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Well, why don’t you people just get a life. Most white people are racist anyway. If not, why do you move from community to community when a black family moves in? Why, do black people still get treated diffently when they walk in a restuarant? The list goes on and on… If you don’t know what I’m talking about, it’s because you’re white. Only black people know and understand.
So for Obama, I’m voting for you. I think you’ll be a great president. Mrs. Clinton, you just don’t get it either.
I love my country, but it’s still racist. I love my country, but it’s still a hypocrite. I love my country, but the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I love my country, but a nation that forget God shall utterly fall. And this nation is going down!!! Lord help us.

Posted by: REW | March 16, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Rosie O’Donnell isn’t going around saying “We need hope”….
Obama is.
And just an FYI, most people think Rosie is a nutjob.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Thank you Jeremiah Wright.
Now we know where Michelle Obama honed her hatred of white and America in general despite being the poster child for opportunity and privilege in this country.
Now we know why Louis Farrkhan loves Obama.

Posted by: Trene | March 16, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

tax exempt religious entities are prohibited from endorsing political candidates

Posted by: plrdar | March 16, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Obama is a very dangerous radical politician who received his spiritual guidance from a radical evangelist named Mr. Wright. What’s the difference between a radical evangelical minister preaching hatred against certain individual race and country to those radical extremist and fundamentalist preachers preaching the destruction of AMERICA? It’s the same people only different religion. Now, if still vote for Obama then you are voting for the destruction of AMERICA and the future of our children and children’s children.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: JR, Texas (Independent) | March 16, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Rev. Jerimiah Wright is a ridiculous clown that is in no way funny. He is a stupid little man that will forever despise what he has become: low-life scum no better than the American traitor Min. Louis Farrakhan. May they both rot in Hell.

Posted by: Dogcatcher | March 16, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

If Rev Wright’s sermons hadn’t been discovered (by Sean Hannity) Obama might have been elected President, and Rev. Wright would probably have been appointed to his cabinet!
Whew! We narrowly missed a disaster for this country. Thanks Sean Hannity, who has been trying to expose the sham Obama for a year now. ABC & the others waited till most people had voted.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Are we really going judge people by their pastors now? If so, should all Catholics be judged based on the actions and words of the pope? I don’t think so.
I don’t care what anyone says. Obama has my vote till the end.

Posted by: jenny | March 16, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

People may think Rosie is a nutjob, but she didn’t lose her job for making those remarks.
Quite the contrary, she get more job deals than the law should allow.

Posted by: Jack | March 16, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

How come none of you Obama-haters are taking McCain to task for his connections to televangelist John Hagee, whose a known anti-Catholic bigot? I’m a Catholic and will never vote for McCain because of his connections to this hatemonger!

Posted by: Erin McSweeney | March 16, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

If it were not so sad I would say this this is absolutely comical how so many people had the wool pulled over their eyes but not only that but how easily it was done. It was heard mentality without any thought or question other than the ideology of believing in a fairy tale of the divinity of Obama. I said a long time ago that there was something VERY dangerous about Obama because he uses ambiguous terms such as “change”, “hope”, and “Yes we can.” without backing them up with what he means. There should have been MANY red flags that went up when the media and the public decided head over heals for Obama to be the next president of the U.S. over a year ago based on THEIR hatred for President Bush and being so brainwashed into thinking that Lord Obama was the Messiah. The media and the public had never seen a black man be so articulate as he was at the Democratic Convention or have a book on the top 5 best sellers list. That was all that it took for them to believe that he was the Second Comming.

Posted by: AlexKx | March 16, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

WE can say anytging we can; but hate is not the answer for hate. We people have to make right decision right now right here. WE All people who SUPPORTED, DONATED AND VOLUNTERED FOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA NEED TO DO SAME THING TO HILLARY CLINTON SO WE HAVE BETTER CHOICE. AT LEAST WE DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS RACIST SHITH.
PEOPLE I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING THAT HILLARY REALLY WANT TO DO GOOD THING FOR THIS NATION. SHE WILL BE BETTER PRESIDENT THAN BILL CLINTON. AMERICA WILL BE PROUD OF WITH THIS INTELLIGENT AND SMART WOMAN’S ADMINSTRATION.
PLEASE VOTE, DONATE, VOLUNTEER TO HILLARY CLINTON THAT IS ONLY WAY WE CAN CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF PRESIDENTIAL RACE AND WILL BE THE BEST ANSWER FROM PEOPLE TO WHO HATES AMERICA AND AMERICAN VALUES AND STILL WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF THIS GREAT NATION.
SAY NO TO OBAMA AND DONATE, VOLUNTEER, VOTE FOR HILLARY…THAT IS THE BEST ANSWER FOR RACIST BHO.

Posted by: jmaya, iowa | March 16, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Help! We want a do over!!

Posted by: Missouri Voters | March 16, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Where have they been hiding Michelle Obama. It would be interesting to hear her comments on sister Wright.

Posted by: jeff | March 16, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

This is actually exactly what the country needs. It’s time that we finally deal with the painful and sordid issue of race in this country. Come on, did anyone really believe that Obama would not have to address his “blackness” during this campaign? By the way, he is considered legally “black” by our “one-tenth” law. That fact alone is embarrassing enough for this great nation. Older black people have lived through situations that many of the most adamant anti-Obama posters don’t care to acknowledge, and that is the history of unjust treatment of black people in this country. And yes, older blacks are understandably bitter…and they STILL love this country. Rev. Wright comes from that era(by the way he is also an ex-marine). Going after the pastor to discredit Obama is just a continuation of “politricks” that some of our worst citizens have mastered. The obvious is that now the other two candidates will have their “acquaintances” lives unraveled and it won’t be pretty. Guilt by association is a dangerous game. As a black man raising black children, I understand the pastor’s anger, although I disagree with his hateful comments. I often have to “challenge” my beloved mother respectfully on her racist views, understandng fully the pain from which they are derived. This “situation” will force the country to finally choose a path. Progressive americans and young people are fed up with the attitudes and actions of division. That’s the appeal of Barack Obama. He is showing that you can “hate the sin, but redeem the sinner.” Buckle up, because this bumpy ride is just getting started. We will either rise to greater heights, or be swallowed up by our own bitterness. I believe the majority of americans are ready to move this country forward, as evidenced by the ballot box despite the distractions. Stop the hate, Obama 08!

Posted by: Reason | March 16, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Obama was raised in a WHITE home with his mother and grandparents.
How in the world can any of you think he is a racist?
Is his pastor a little crazy? Probably.
…but there isn’t a racist bone in that man’s body. It’s clear from reading most of your comments that MANY OF YOU ARE.
Our economy is sunk, gas prices out of control, foreclosures abound, and THIS is what you discuss on the blogs?
What Idiots.

Posted by: Happy Mommy | March 16, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

With each passing day, the magic of Obama is washing away and being replaced by the reality of a smug, smirking, racist con man.
Is the Obama Pom Squad awake yet or still in a zombie-like trance?

Posted by: Beth | March 16, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Was McCain a member of Hagee’s church for 20 years? NO
Has McCain called Hagee HIS spiritual mentor? No
Did McCain appoint Hagee to his campaign? NO
Did McCain give $24,000 to Hagee last year? NO
Did Hagee marry McCain & Cindy? NO
Did Hagee baptize his children? NO
There is no comparison. So stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: Missouri Voters | March 16, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

Martin Luther King NEVER spoke like Rev. Wright has. Obama is done. He was my second choice at one time, he’s no longer on my list. Never mind all his newfound baggage, it’s the Obama zombies who turned me off long before that baggage came along. Stick a fork in the Obama potato, it’s done. No, wait! No need to stick a fork in it, it self destructed on it’s own.

Posted by: CynnN | March 16, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

I hate to say it, but, I told you so!

Posted by: Jason | March 16, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Blame yourself for your bad judgement Obama!

Posted by: Greg | March 16, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Since a lot of Obama’s supporters are educated, black, and/or young, it’s obvious that most of the commenters spewing hate on this topic were never Obama supporters in the first place. All of the above-listed groups know better than to draw the conclusions you are drawing about Obama from the information available on Wright.
We admire Obama for what OBAMA says and does. Seeing that Obama was able to take some good messages from Wright, while leaving behind Wright’s anger and hatred, makes me admire Obama even more.

Posted by: DoTheMath | March 16, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Missouri Voters – nice try, but McCain is still associated with an anti-Catholic bigot and I will not vote for him because of that. Catholics have come too far in this country to have to suffer bigots like Hagee ever again and McCain should know better!

Posted by: Erin McSweeney | March 16, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

To: Erin McSweeney
Comparing apples and oranges.
John Hagee is not McCain’s spiritual and moral mentor. Never was, never will be.
Rev Wright is/was Obama’s for over 20 years.

Posted by: keval | March 16, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Every candidate that is running for president has had to denounce someone’s statements from their camp. From Ferraro, to Wright, to Parsley. Let’s not forget that McCain called Parsley a “spiritual guide.” And then we have Rev. Hagee’s anti-gay remarks which McCain has never refuted or said anything at all about. What matters to me are the issues, the economy, the war in Iraq, healthcare…whoever wins is going to have quite the job ahead of him/her. I think it is going to take 4 years just to fix the mess that we have now and another 4 years to actually get something done. Guilt by association…if that is the case, all three are guilty of racist remarks, anti-gay remarks, anti-muslim remarks…etc. etc. I think the media can’t find anything to write about with the candidates so now they are looking at everyone that has ever had anything to do with any of them. Let’s keep focused on the issues and who is going to actually get something done…
OBAMA IN 08 -

Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Happy Mommy claims “…but there isn’t a racist bone in that man’s (Obama’s) body.”"
_____________________________
Sorry, Mommy. A close, 20+ year relationships with one of the most hateful, vile racists to ever come down the garbage chute would indicate otherwise.
There is simply no way Obama would hang with this guy for more than two decades if he didn’t agree with his highly divisive and racist point of view.

Posted by: Julie Jay | March 16, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

In 1999, Cindy McCain went on television and admitted an addiction to Percocet and Vicodin that caused her to steal the prescriptions from the relief agency she was funding. Does that make John McCain a drug addict? He’s been with her for many years. If one uses the logic that Obama is a reflection of his pastor’s quotes–some of which are actually a translation of the Old Testament–then, you must find John McCain guilty of promoting and endorsing drug abuse.

Posted by: lcm | March 16, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Silly Brian – sob sisters have been predicting the downfall and dissolution of the US since 1791. Stop whining and living in fear and get over yourself, son. This is a great country and it’s only going to get better. All your predictions are silly and immature.

Posted by: Kerri Ann | March 16, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

I don’t think Obama should be judged on what his minister says. I find it interesting that Obama belongs to a segregated church and the press has given him a pass. Would a white candidate get such a pass?

Posted by: The Lord of war | March 16, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Big Jim – not sure what your rant was supposed to signify there, friend. But what matters in the real world is not Lincoln’s private views, but his public actions and the passage of the 13th amendment abolishing slavery. But let me ask you my original question again – are we so beyond reason that it’s now considered unacceptable to criticize the country when things are clearly wrong? Does criticism really mean that we don’t love America?

Posted by: True American | March 16, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Obama says Rev Wright is like a crazy uncle.
No Obama, you don’t CHOOSE your uncles. But you do CHOOSE your pastors & spiritual mentors.
And this guy went to Harvard & Columbia?

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

What took our media this long to expose this man- I am a passionate Democrat- voted for Hillary in the primary and would have voted for Obama in the general until this surfaced- this confirmed what I sensed in his wife’s incendiary remarks- Obama discounted the Clinton years and Michelle discounted our entire nationhood- to say she was finally proud to be an american now.My hunch is now proven- i CANNOT vote to give the keys of the WH and the the Nuclear Box to Obama and his cohorts. I am a Democrat and hate Bush- but I love my country first- and am American FIRST.

Posted by: American Voter | March 16, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Hagee hates Catholics and endorses John McCain – why does McCain hate Catholics?

Posted by: Erin McSweeney | March 16, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

Inside Edition said Rev. Wright was out of the country till after the primaries.
How convenient! I wonder how much the Obama team paid him to leave?

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Don’t let anybody make you think God chose America as his divine messianic force to be a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with justice and it seems I can hear God saying to America “you are too arrogant, and if you don’t change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I will place it in the hands of a nation that doesn’t even know my name.”
Martin Luther King Jr.Address to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (1967-08-16)

Posted by: history in the making | March 16, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

What goes around will come around to the Democratic Party in November!
DNC tried to win this election for Obama and set up Hillary in FL and MI!
Majority of the Democrats calculated by black votes to win in November!
NO you won’t because the whites are running away from this camp!
I guess, we the Republicans even with John McCain have a huge possibility to win in November!
Nancy Pelosi, Howard dean please my dear, give the nomination to Obama! We love you first time!

Posted by: Bill | March 16, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Good point – McCain associates with a pastor who hates Catholics. Why should I vote for someone who hates my religion? I’m voting with Obama.

Posted by: Kerri Ann | March 16, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Bible is words of LOVE AND FORGIVENESS!
Shame on YOU!! Mr. Wright..

Posted by: hk | March 16, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

You can’t choose who endorses you.
You can CHOOSE whose church you attend.
Quit embarrassing yourselves with these stupid comparisons.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

do you really believe that Obama is such an idoit that in 20 years he never had a clue to what his mentor, pastor, and life coach was peaching? Do you really believe this? Obama himself said words are important, they bring hope, fear, and they can hurt. Obama is 20 years late on denouncing his pastor (crazy uncle).

Posted by: National-Letter | March 16, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Bill – What goes around comes around for the GOP, too. And there will be HELL to pay for the GOP for their disasters in Iraq, New Orleans, and everywhere else. Do you really think that we’ve forgotten about the disasterous Bush years? You Republicans are going to lose big and you deserve it!

Posted by: Diamond Dave | March 16, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

When I am not at church, I don’t hear about the week’s sermon. Rememeber that Obama has been campaigning for how long now? When do you think the last time he was even at church was? And I have to say…I don’t agree with some of the things my pastor preaches about. I think Obama handled the whole thing very well and I agree that Rev. Wright lived through a different time than him and experienced different things than him. Wright was a Marine and is one of the most highly acclaimed black preachers in the US and was awarded three Presidential Commendations from President Johnson. I do not agree with his statements but I think if these were how all of his sermons were, he would not have gotten all of this recognition and would not be one of the most sought after preachers in the US.
OBAMA IN 08

Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Look at what the Democrats pick as a presidential candidate and vote for John McCain in November!

Posted by: Azot | March 16, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

The worst part of all of this is Barack Obama had the nerve to criticize Clinton & Ferraro for being divisive!
Pot meet Kettle, Mr. Obama/Rev Wright!

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Carol – and do you think REPUBLICANS are ready to run the country? They’ve had 8 years and all they did was mess everything up!!!

Posted by: Kerri Ann | March 16, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Now we find out Rezko is more of an issue than Barack admitted.
Now we find out that Barack requested earmarks for the place his wife worked, right after she got a huge raise.
All of you who think Obama is “different” are getting a rude awakening.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Steff, you wrote: “…but what you are really exposing is the hatred you have for BO in particular, but for ‘people of color’ in general.”
That may be true for some. But that is not the case for me. Any regular reader of this blog knows that I, being a white conservative Republican male, was hoping for a brokered Republican convention. And then hoping that the Republican Party would draft Dr. Condoleezza Rice as our nominee. I even wrote in Dr. Rice’s name when I voted in our primary. AND now I am advocating that Sen. McCain select Dr. Rice to be his running mate.
I am against Sen. Obama based on his idealogy not his skin color. He and Sen. Clinton are Socialists who border on Marxists.
It saddens me that the Republican Party is unable to convince more African-Americans to run for public office. But I can certainly appreciate their unwillingness to run. The main reason is the vicious reverse racism that they receive from other African-Americans. And their children feel the brunt of this reverse racism. What parent wants their children to come to them crying that their friends will no longer talk to them or hang out with them; and angry because their parent has screwed up their (the children’s) lives.
Finally, you also wrote: “we actually just got the chance to compete in 1964.”
Actually that is not the case. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Fifteenth Amendment (ratified Feb 3, 1870) gave African-Americans the right to vote. During Reconstruction, African-Americans held many public offices (almost exclusively Republicans), especially in the South. Sen. Hiram Rhodes Revels (R-MS) was the first African-American to serve in the United States Senate (and Congress) 1870-1871; and was followed by Sen. Blanch Kelso Bruce (R-MS) 1875-1881. Because of the disputed Presidential election of 1876, the Republicans and Democrats approved the Compromise of 1877. The Democrats conceded the election and promised to guarantee the rights of African-Americans. And the Republicans agreed to no longer intervene in southern affairs (which had guaranteed the rights of African-Americans). But the Democrats reniged on their promise. And with the help of the KKK, they were able to intimidate African-Americans, and kept enough from voting that in due time the Democrats regained control of the South. Then by 1890, the Democrats began disenfranchising African-American voters with literacy tests, poll taxes and eventually they implemented “white primaries” which prevented African-American’s from voting.
That is pretty much the way it was until the passing to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 — which passed only because of the Republicans.

Posted by: James Danley | March 16, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

The only difference between Obama and your average lying corrupt politician is he speaks (lies) a little better.
Other than that, he’s just the same.

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Republicans are desperate if this is all they have on Obama.

Posted by: Kelly Hong | March 16, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Kerri Ann – I agree! 8 years and look at the mess! Like I said, 4 years to fix everything from the last 8 years and 4 years to actually start fresh and get something done…
OBAMA IN 08

Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

I can’t believe that someone could blame this on the media.
Heck, people that go to this church have said that people leave the church weekly because of this kind of talk…and the person that said this was trying to DEFEND the church!
If I hear a preacher say “God Damn,” if he was mine, he wouldn’t be 5 seconds later when I was in the church parking lot. I don’t care what follows, be it America, the media, or Britney Spears. Those are not the words of a man of god.
That anyone could blame this on the media is insane. The preacher asked for the damnation of America (well, white America, at least). The preacher took God’s name in vain. If a well known preacher in my area did that, it would be on the news the next morning, not years later, and no one would point fingers at the media.

Posted by: Matt | March 16, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

“For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m proud of my country”
Michelle Obama
Looks like Michelle was in the church audience (& listening intently) for 20 years!

Posted by: Jo | March 16, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Jo – well you gotta vote for somebody, right?

Posted by: Kyle C. | March 16, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Yeah, Barb – because racism is all black peoples’ fault. Tell me another one. LOL

Posted by: Ann Gables | March 16, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Better to find out about Obama now before he fills up the courts & his cabinet with anti American judges.
We narrowly missed a disasterous presidency.

Posted by: JJ | March 16, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Well, I am a white American and I DID vote for him and WILL vote for him again. He must have very short sermons if 20 years worth of anti-American sermons can be put into one 30-second clip. That sure makes for a short day at church!
OBAMA IN 08

Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Carol – the answer to all your questions is a resounding YES. Stop confusing “White America” with the white supremicists in the GOP. You Republicans had your shot under Bush and you blew it SPECTACULARLY. And now old man McCain wants to bankrupt us completely by wasting even more of our money in Iraq? Good luck with that. It will be a Democratic landslide in ’08 no matter who we nominate. LOL

Posted by: Kerri Ann | March 16, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

i don’t see that it’s a matter of caricature to play a video clip from somebody’s greatest hits dvd. if anybody’s the caricature, it’s wright. he looks and sounds just like a saturday night live skit or a south park cartoon. i’m still waiting to see how average americans react to this.

Posted by: ChrisSanDiego | March 16, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Martin Luther King NEVER spoke like Rev. Wright has. Obama is done. He was my second choice at one time, he’s no longer on my list. Never mind all his newfound baggage, it’s the Obama zombies who turned me off long before that baggage came along. Stick a fork in the Obama potato, it’s done. No, wait! No need to stick a fork in it, it self destructed on it’s own.

Posted by: CynnN | March 16, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

“Ministerial tutelage for social justice?” Sounds like a political organization and NOT a church. The IRS must REMOVE the tax-exempt status of Trinity United Church. This would allow them to continue their fight for legislative change without being in violation of the US tax code. Using the pulpit to endorse a candidate is illegal. Rev. Wright’s comparison of Obama to Jesus is downright over-the-top. Praise Jesus in Church, not political candidates.

Posted by: M. Santos | March 16, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Republicans clearly fear Obama.

Posted by: David J | March 16, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Can anyone imagine a First Lady who has never been proud of her country?
I can’t. And no one else will want to either.

Posted by: JJ | March 16, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

I can’t figure out why no one is question Oprah on TV, why has she not come forward???
She has to know something she supported Obama and she was a former church attendee at the past Wright church, but I guess no one can dare ask her she works for ABC and is rich enough to say no comment leave me out??

Posted by: Debbie | March 16, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

This story will go on and get bigger!
i feel it! The sad part is Hill will win and we will get stock with her!
McCain must pick Mit Romney as VP so we can beat Hill the witch!

Posted by: phil | March 16, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

I can’t figure out why no one is question Oprah on TV, why has she not come forward???
She has to know something she supported Obama and she was a former church attendee at the past Wright church, but I guess no one can dare ask her she works for ABC and is rich enough to say no comment leave me out??

Posted by: Debbie | March 16, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

I’ve known about Rev. Wright since before Obama comes along. This is a huge eye opener for most Americans. First, it’s an eye opener that so many African Americans support this racist doctorine. Second, it’s an eye opener that such a high ranking Democrat would indoctorinate himself and his family in this racist mentality.

Posted by: Haley Rodman Clemson | March 16, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

It’s Strawberryfileds forever dig harder

Posted by: Debbie | March 16, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

i think if Clinton manages to make it as the democratic nominee we will have another republican in office. i think the republicans hate the clintons so much they will come out in groves to vote for mccain just so that the clintons are not in office again. how is she going to debate with mccain about the war in iraq when she voted for it? i think the republicans would love for hillary to make it – they know they could probably beat her.
i voted for and liked bill clinton as president (the economy was great then!) but i don’t like hillary. i think she is power and money hungry and i don’t think she will win if she is the nominee, which is scary because we need a democrat in office!

Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

Did anyone see Obama’s mother at all? I have a feeling something is wrong with her too! That is probably why she was never around and we never heard from her! All of those candidates mothers are around!

Posted by: Jerry | March 16, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

And what about the lifetime achievement award the church’s publication (headed by Wright’s daughters) gave to Farrakhan. Several times, Obama has said that it was given to Farrakhan “to honor his work with ex-offenders”. What a crock. The publication lauded Farrakhan as the “true epitome of greatness”.Again, Barack is feeding us a line.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 17, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

I think it’s become pretty clear why obama refuses to wear an American flag pin on his lapel….

Posted by: Shiloh | March 17, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Quote: “I’m sure Obama was in at church the sunday after 9/11 where many people were. And that’s where Rev Wright spewed one of his most hateful sermons EVER.”
That’s nonsense. What he said about 9/11 being in part due to out own actions is nothing different than what Ron Paul said the entire campaign in the Republican debates. Many Americans, especially Democrats, agree with that. Enough already with the false apoplexy and “righteous indignation.” That’s no better than Jeremiah Wright.

Posted by: Patriot | March 17, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

I am not African American or White American, but the way this need to be seen is from black theology and history perspective. This could be very disturbing but it pretty common feeling among blacks. I see Obama as someone who recognize and is trying transcend race. Guily by association is not a fair game. There are a lot of priests who backed Bush who said outrages things.

Posted by: John Elias | March 17, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Valerie: There is a lot we don’t know about Obama that has not come out yet. But what has come out is bad enough. Yes, his mother died of cancer at age 53 and I believe his father is dead. His mother was married three times and his father had two other wives in Kenya. Obama has half brothers and sisters in Kenya that he probably doesn’t want to know. But they are there. He also has a half sister in Hawaii. I read his BIO in the New York Times and that was some biography.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 17, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Thank you Vi- together- passionate Democrats such as us, BUT PATRIOTIC AMERICANS – together should exhort the media to further expose this empty but dangerous suit. I will NOT vote to give this man and his hate sputtering wife the keys to the WH and the Nuclear Box- A Obama presidency does not bring me dreams given what I now know, but rather nightmares !

Posted by: American Voter | March 17, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

To compare Jeremiah Wright and Obama’s relationship and that of other pastor who have just endorsed a candidate is like comparing someone that likes murder mystery’s to a murderer. Obama obviously knew what this man was about. 20+ years in a church and you didn’t know he said things like this??? Thats just insulting to me and everyone that hears it. He is either a liar or the luckiest man on the planet. Oh or he wore earplugs when he entered the church. Obama needs to step out of this race. He has put all Democrats in danger of losing the chance at the White House. If you are believe in Democratic issues you should be asking him to step down too. I’m sorry that he went to that church and ruined a promising career but we as democrats need to move on and he needs to move out of the way because this is bigger than his ambitions. Just because he claimed the change message first doesn’t mean thats what is in this mans heart. You go only base that on what his actions are. Between Rezko and Wright, there isn’t much that represents hope and change between those two men. Get out Obama.

Posted by: Harley | March 17, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

he may not have denounced his friendship but what difference does that make? do you agree with everything all of your friends say and all of their beliefs? i certainly don’t! how can you debate the war in iraq when you say you are against it when you voted for it? i just don’t think that is going to fly…at least it doesn’t for me. i agree with the fact that we went into iraq to get rid of saddam. i don’t even disagree that something needed to be done about him. my problem is the way that the bush administration did it. if you can’t believe and trust your President about why you are going to war and what you are fighting about, i think you are a country in trouble…you can’t say we are going because of al qaeda and because of weapons of mass destruction when that is not the reason we are there. i know soldiers that have been/are over there and it is sad when you are lied to about why you are there.

Posted by: Carrie | March 17, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Obama’s church BLAMES media? Obama’s church IS media. Videotaped sermons for sale with nasty language all ready to “share” with the rest of the world. This, too, is part of the script. Remember first that Gerry Ferraro is no racist. Never has been, never will be. She is a political pro (like Ted Kennedy) who sees Sen. Obama, for what he is. A very lucky young man with a spectacular way with words who has been “packaged” for this “moment,”starting with his being fed others legislation for his own as an Illinois Senator, his speech at the 2004 convention, and his support from Ted Kennedy. By his own admission, this “lucky winner” of the DNC first black man as president lottery, has been running for president as soon as he entered the U.S. Senate, running so hard that he can’t even hold a subcommittee hearing. And he’s lucky to be black because it gives him plenty of built in teflon … the media is reluctant to dig and vet this candidate for fear of being called “racist.” He has carried entire states with a solid black vote, taken “proportionally allocated delegates” with a solid black vote, and will have yet another “moment” at the DNC Convention in Denver, which is conveniently being run by a black evangelical preacher. Hollywood could not have done better. Scripted to perfection. If he hits a few snags, he gives explanations (in this case Wright/Rezko) on a Friday evening low news cycle and then gets up on Saturday to invoke RFK and cry out for unity. While you conveniently file Wright/Rezko away, you hear the sweet talkin’ guy and your mind wanders. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Since our guy repeatedly, conveniently, missed all these nasty sermons, maybe he was given a “heads up” that the sermon was gong to heat up and that he should be a no show. That explanation is as good as any other. Quick, time to invoke RFK again. He’s been dead these 40 years and you can trash him too.

Posted by: Mandelay3 | March 17, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

The Audacity Of Hope – the sermon by which Barack got the title of his book, has been unearthed to show that it also was full of hateful spewing about whites and full of anti American-ism. And Newsmax has an OLD article that has been found where the editor goes to a sermon and anti american rant is being preached and Obama is observed NODDING HIS HEAD IN AGREEMENT!!!!
Obama is TOAST, baby, TOAST!!!!!
Yeeeeehaw

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

Just imagine if he were white and attended a church that spoke that type of hatred against black people? There can’t be two standards in this country. I’m done with Obama. I’ll admit I was brain washed for awhile for the mass media.

Posted by: American Patriot | March 17, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Well, one thing is for sure, we didn’t expect a black man to get into the White House without a fight did we? So, I don’t think we should be at all surprised by all of this recent nonsense. For once, I wish we could run a fair election without all of the pretending. Go Obama 2008!!

Posted by: sandy | March 17, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Every once in awhile the mainstream media realizes it’s NOT the PR machine for the democrat (mainly Obama) party and it shows some bad things for democrat candidates. But trust me, they have to be dragged to do it, kicking and screaming. So if you’re going to sit there and say the media is pro Republican, that’s just like sitting up and announcing “Hey, I’m an idiot.”

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

For all the hysterical Obama haters. It’s over! You can keep ranting all the way to the convention…but it’s over. The American people have spoken. Obama has won this nomination. Hillary cannot win the democratic process. OBAMA ’08 — Yes we can!

Posted by: Patriot | March 17, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Jen, Obama WAS NOT a U.S.SENATOR in 2001.
Geeeze, get informed.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

For someone that lost a friend on 911! God Damn YOU Mr Wright! Obama is a Liar!! To think that he almost had me!

Posted by: AB | March 17, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

It is hard to believe that some could be so naive to believe Obama could sit in the pews of a preacher who is obviously anti-american and a racist and never hear anything controversial. His denial that he never heard anything offensive over the last 20 years is about as political as it gets. The reverend has no doubt done great and wonderful things but lest we forget that even a racist can do good things for those they agree with.

Posted by: js | March 17, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

If Obama was a TRUE racial healer and uniter, he couldn’t POSSIBLY stand to sit in the pews of the Trinity Church.
PERIOD!!!!
Obama will say ANYTHING to get elected. Why are you people so gullible???

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Can you imagine if this was a white church (McCain or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s) saying these things?
I regret voting for Obama. Wish I had known this earlier. Why was the Media sitting on this. Can the American voter sue the media for not informing us earlier about this? Just a thought.

Posted by: Peter | March 17, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

I never said Fox News likes Obama!!!
I said the MAINSTREAM MEDIA LOVES Obama…
ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, CNN,USA Today, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times and all the other mainstream outlets.
They are ALL in the tank for Obama. And they will do their DARNDEST to cover up for him. Until people like Fox point out things and embarrass them for not covering it.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

You go to a bookstore and choose an interesting-looking book. You read one page and it reads like the “sound-bites” of Wright’s sermons. Does that give you any idea of what the book is about? Do you buy the book?
No Thanks!
No one has to listen to all of Wright’s sermons (or even a couple of them) to know what he is about.

Posted by: Susan Bertalotto | March 17, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Talk Radio is not mainstream media news outlet.
Can you people get the difference between MAINSTREAM (that which is easily available – mostly non cable)….and the Majority read newspapers in the country.
Talk Radio is not mainstream NEWS and it ADMITS it’s bias. The others are biased but DON”T ADMIT IT…
Get informed people.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

I was a Obama supporter. Now I rather stay home than vote. I have lost trust in this political system and the media that hid this from us. Shame on you CNN and MSNBC.

Posted by: nancy | March 17, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

Ya know, I have been supporting Hillary and I still am since I believe she is the better candidate for now – even though I wasn’t pleased when her campaign implied Obama might not be ready. Obama is a fine candidate who I will fully support if he wins the nomination even though I think his pastor has some extreme perspectives. What is truly sad to me is how quickly the deep racial divisions – EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS have come to the forefront – its really too bad; I had hoped we as a society had made more progress but, judging by many of the comments posted here, I guess not.

Posted by: Artful Dodger | March 17, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Jen, that means he WASN’T in Washington DC. He was in Illinois and was IN CHURCH on 9/11 listening to the hate.
Get it???
lol. No wonder Obama gets people to drink the kool aid so easily.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Jen, since we’ve proven Obama wasn’t in DC because he wasn’t yet a U.S. Senator in the aftermath of 9/11, what is your excuse for him now????
Pray, tell.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Jen, you already made the mistake of saying Obama was in Washington DC doing work for the COUNTRY.
And now I’m suppose to think you know what you’re talking about? LOL.
Oh by the way, the sermon Audacity of Hope that Obama got his book title from, a sermon that he DID hear, was also full of hate.
You Obama lovers are really going to be humiliated in the next few weeks.

Posted by: JJ | March 17, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

I am happy to see that whites have clearly been eager to show that they are ready to elect a canidate regardless of race or gender this election. But are enough Americans of Color ready to also see past race? Having a 20 year relationship with the angry and bitter Rev. Wright can not be dismissed with comments like “former”. It may not be racism on the part of whites that will be Obama’s undoing. I think the Obamas may need to spend as many years away from this hurt and anger to see all Americans as just Americans. The slip by his wife, the flag pin, the refusal to hold his hand over his heart during the pledge, it’s just too much now.
I am ready for a good President, Black or Woman it make no difference to me, but I certainly would not vote for a white candidate who was a member of the kind of church for 20 years that preaches racism nor would I a Black candidate, racism and prejudice is wrong for everybody. Obama lost my vote this week.

Posted by: Alan B. | March 17, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Funny how Obama supporters are so eager to sweep this one under the rug. People should be outraged and insulted at how Obama thinks that we’ll buy his explanation of not being there when the Minister gave those divisive speeches. People who voted for him are having buyer’s remorse right about now.

Posted by: WakeUpPeople | March 17, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

For a man to hear this hatred for 20 years and then try to shame Geraldine Ferraro for one comment that wasn’t even racist is UN FREAKIN BELIEVABLE.
And shows what a phony hypocrite Obama is. Shame on you Obama. Shame, shame, shame.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

My question is why haven’t we seen the clips of Reverend Wright’s Audacity to Hope speech that inspired Obama’s book?
I think ABC has presented the Reverend in an completely inflammatory way. It just shows how little the MSM understands the Black community in this country. That first report by Brian Ross was so much from a “white never been to a Black Church perspective”it’s laughable.
Jerry Falwell said it was our fault for 9/11 as well because of the abortionists, gays and the ACLU and George Bush didn’t distance himself from him or PAt Robertson for the 2004. Ted Haggard was Bush’s spiritual adviser.

Posted by: Esme | March 17, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Wake Up People, the reason these Obama Kool-Aid drinkers are not upset about Reverend Wright’s sermons are because they AGREE with them.
But these fringe Obama supporters are the overwhelming minority in this country and they are about to realize that in the general election.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

What is so sad about the truth. The truth is better than lies. Obama should have had the sense to renounce that church and find one that don’t have a racist pastor. In the church I attend, we have white, black and spanish. Our pastor never preaches about race. He preaches the gospel and that’s what Wright should be doing. That is not a christian church and never will be. Get a grip and get real. If you can’t fact the truth then join his church.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 17, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

I imagine we will be hearing the sermon “The Audacity Of Hope” very soon, and that will not be good for Obama, because it’s been show that this sermon was ALSO full of hate.
Now Obama has no place to hide.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

So religion was a big deal with Romney and Huckabee, but suddenly we’re supposed to ignore it when it comes to Obama? Get real. Obama has been a member of this church for 20 years. When you’re running for President, you really shouldn’t be associating at all with someone who says “god d*mn america” and that the gov’t invented the HIV virus to kill blacks, let alone going to a church where this is preached to thousands. If my pastor said anything like that I would get up in the middle of the sermon and walk out and never return, and as a member of congress and presidential candidate, you would hope that Obama would too, but apparently that’s not the case.

Posted by: Bryan | March 17, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

Barack was asked about his church and said he didn’t think it was “controversial.”
OMG. Is he trying to destroy his whole career or what??
And this guy went to Ivy League schools???

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Can you imagine the kind of anti American judges and anti American staff and anti American cabinet members Obama would appoint? Al Qaeda would be dancing in the streets if this guy had won. And he might have if not for Rev. Wright. I think God was directing Sean Hannity to find these sermons and expose these evil, evil men.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

It’s not the church, it’s Obama. Run’s on one idea yet his place of worship, preaches an old idea, an idea he chose to become part of for twenty years. It just proves he is a politician willing to use race or whatever it takes to win.

Posted by: Josey | March 17, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Victoria, the one who preaches “unity” apparently doesn’t believe in it himself.
So tell Obama to practice what he preaches and start in his own backyard.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Question:
Have any of you indignant “Christians” considered the appropriateness of crucifying a good and honest man during Holy Week?
If you don’t like Sen. Obama, then quietly vote for the candidate of your choice.

Posted by: Concerned | March 17, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

hell i’m 22 years old.+++++++++++++++++++why am I not surprised, they always know every thing at that age, I mean they have so much life experience or think they do any way,and then they starting spewing off about how many books they have read , how much education they have, wow wow, living real life is not about books,not about college it is about living, I don’t think they should let people vote until they have been around long enough to know what living and struggling is all about til they can see smoke rings in the dark, and knows what that means,

Posted by: pespiloverforever | March 17, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

If this came out of a white church you would have loud mouth. Rev.Jackson and loud mouth Al Sharp Screaming all hell. They need to stop it. Obama’s mother was white I heard that she did not belived in god. I think his wife should be ashame to for not being proud of the USA. It sure was good to her I think

Posted by: Ed | March 17, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

“For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m proud of my country.”
Michelle Obama
Three weeks ago we were told she didn’t mean it like it sounded. Three weeks ago we didn’t know the church she went to for 20 years. Now we know exactly what she meant.
It’s fine for Michelle to loathe her country. But it’s not fine for someone like that to represent this country in the White House.
Say no to hate. Say no to Barack Obama AND his wife.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Come on America. I challenge all you ignorant to challenge anything that the pastor said. Go take a little history lesson and you have no choice but to agree with him. What he said maybe inappropriate but it is the sad truth. Katrina proved it to the whole world that there are 2 people in America. It is sad but we must acknowledge it.

Posted by: Gerald | March 17, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Another point I would like to make; everyone kept saying that Obama has good judgement, so he chose to belong to this kind of church at the start of his career, and like America, who supposedly wasn’t ready for a black man would be ready now including the man belonging to a church that apparently hates “Rich White People”. Rich white people who will never know pain like that congregation knows pain; all because of their ancestors. Don’t talk to Germans if you’re Jewish, Oh well those of Japanese ancestry I guess you probably never want to speak to white Americans. But if you need a good deal on a home, give Rezco a call. He’s in deep legal trouble right now, but I am sure he can work something out, trust me I know. Vote for me….

Posted by: Josey | March 17, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Concerned, did you consider how inappropriate it was for Obama’s great friend and MENTOR to speak ill of America 5 days after 9/11?
Didn’t think so.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

What has Obama done to you 25% haters during the Bush adminstration that have you so upset? The war? Trillion in debt? Loss in jobs and income? 45 millions American unisured? Come and get over till small talk and get real. Obama 08!

Posted by: oppong | March 17, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Josh ,
never stated the clintons were racist..but when things dont go their way. they do know “the campiagn” that that’s a card they can still throw out there.. too the insecure unstable average middle aged white voter.. and sway them..
Posted by: Obama08 | Mar 17, 2008 1:29:28 AM
“unstable, insecure middle aged white voter”
Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Josh | March 17, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Why is this not a surprise?
And the “say NO to attacks” is priceless.
How can this be character assasination when the sermons are being sold by the congregation? Certainly, there must have been a review committee that found these to be representative of Rev. Wright’s Sunday sermons.
And the uproar is about the attacks that Rev.Wright lodged against our country, the “man” and inaccurate comments suggesting that AIDS was intentionally started by the U.S. Government to wipe out huge numbers of African Americans.
Are you also angry at Barack Obama for denouncing and rejecting the statements too?
Time to stop circling the wagons and look around. The technique of sermonizing does nothing to transcend race. Time for EVERYONE to get with the program, not just some.

Posted by: OhioNative | March 17, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Even Anderson Cooper the other night seemed deeply disturbed about the Reverend Wright and admitted he thought it wasn’t big at first, but then found out there were hours and hours of this stuff. This is truly a shock and a huge disappointment to those who thought Barack was a man of honor and integrity, not to mention someone who was for hope and change.

Posted by: Lisa | March 17, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Katrina proved it////and what did that prove that some people don’t have enough good sense to leave when they live 5 feet below sea level in a bowl and a kat 5 hurricane is headed toward them,excuse me, I am so sick of the Katrina thing, most people don’t have a clue what went on there, all they have is the pictures,well they started warning 5 days before that hurricane ever hit, to get out, that is was coming,they provided buses, they didn’t want to ride the buses cause they didn’t have a/c, so take in consideration that they offered a rides and gave them 5 days to leave,those people stayed knowing full well that they lived below sea level and surrounded by a old worn out levy, and a kat 5 hurricane was headed at them, when they started bringing those people out of there and bringing them to other city i had the good pleasure of helping feed some of them,they complained about the food, crapped in the floors wouldn’t clean it up, threw trash every where, and wouldn’t clean up,and they were not all black, but most was looking for a free ride, and do you know most of them did with the money they got” so I am sorry no pity here, they were rude, disrespectful but they were not all black there were quite a few whites in there too,

Posted by: pespiloverforever | March 17, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

If we are going to hold every member of every church responsible for the words of their preachers we would never vote for anyone belonging to any church. Is there any viable evidence to show that Obama, Hillary or McCain is guilty of racism, sexism, or any other ism? If we could show the campaigns that we will not be distracted by this sort of BS, maybe they would stop wasting or time with nonsense and start actually discussing the important issues.
What are the candidates going to do about the war in Iraq, the failing economy, the health care crisis, the horrible divisions in America? These are the questions we need answered, but as long as we let ourselves be sidetracked by indirect personal attacks on the candiates character, we will continue to get the same worthless politicians we have had for the past decade
Posted by: capt billly | Mar 17, 2008 1:38:01 AM
How many recent Catholic Presidents have we had there, Billy?

Posted by: Josh | March 17, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Senator Obama lacks political experience which is showing in this campaign. He eliminated his opponents in his Illinois State Senate election by challenging their nomination papers. When Senator Obama ran for U.S. Senator his competition self-destructed. He has shown himself to lack political judgment in regards to Rev. Wright. Senator Obama never should have appointed Rev. Wright to a position on his spiritual advisory team when he knew full well that Rev. Wright’s statements would be used against him. Instead Senator Obama minimized Rev. Wright’s statements as “being provocative” and “cherry picking”. He further minimized with his own statements that Rev. Wright is like an uncle you disagree with and that Rev. Wright is retiring. Senator Obama’s relationship with Rev. Wright goes way beyond just his church attendance. Rev. Wright has been his spiritual adviser/mentor and Senator Obama has had many conversations with him over 20 years. While Rev. White may use a more flamboyant style in church to express his views, in private they are still his views. How can Senator Obama not have internalized many of Rev. Wright’s views?

Posted by: mimi5 | March 17, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Shame on you !!!all ye Obama critics, Obama has proved to be strongly untouchable,you can never,read my lips,never bring him down,Obama is on his way to becoming the next commander in chief,nobody had ever imagined its gonna be easy,but he is equally prepared for you guys too.

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Oppong; NO! Just kidding. It depends on how he is. Providing the record is one we approve of, is he a smooth talking, lying jerk? If not, that would be a plus. Obama is a minus in that department.

Posted by: Josey | March 17, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Bush had a meeting or two with Ken Lay and the liberals had Bush to blame for most of Enron scandal. But this 20 year link is to be overlooked? Uh, er, okay. *snort*

Posted by: J | March 17, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

If we are going to hold every member of every church responsible for the words of their preachers ————-ONE LAST TIME GET THIS WE DO NOT HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HIS PASTOR HAS SAID, WE HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR BELIEVING LIKE HIS PASTOR FOR LYING, AND SUPPORTING THIS KIND OF HATE. FOR HIS POOR JUDGMENT, HIS LACK OF CHARACTER,HIS MISUSE OF OUR TRUST, AND FOR AGREEING THAT THE WHITES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE EVILS OF THE WORLD, AND THAT GOD SHOULD DAMN AMERICAN,HE CAN SAY ANY THING HE WANTS BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW THAT HE KNEW WELL WHAT THAT PREACHER WAS LIKE, 20 YRS GIVE ME A BREAK,

Posted by: pespiloverforever | March 17, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Obama’s boat is sinking faster than the Titanic and there are no life rafts..In the mean time he is setting up the deck chairs as the band plays… NO OBAMA IN 08..

Posted by: Pat M | March 17, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

I’m a black female Captain in the Army. I have served for over 20 years and I love my country…I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world.
Obama and his links to Rev. Wright/Rezco is a discrace to blacks….and blacks need to own up to it and STOP making excuses for Obama & Wright.
Before this story broke, I spoke to my 14 & 12 year old daughters about hanging around those who have a bad reputation or do bad things, because others will believe that they are the same way….Obama should have had the smarts to also know this by now!
Wright should NEVER use the pulpit to voice political rhetoric…regardless if they are true or not. The pulpit is ONLY for God’s word.
I distastefully saw people…mostly young….crying, worshipping, and idolizing Obama…calling him the Messiah. In my gut I saw trouble coming because of this.
The ONLY Messiah is Jesus Christ. When Obama didn’t ask these young people to tone it down, and when he himself rellished in the spotlight from it….he lost my vote. NO ONE puts them self on a pedestal acting as if they are Jesus Christ…ONLY Jesus Christ can do that. At that point, Obama reminded me of Jim Jones.
However, I also blame white college kids who are Obama’s core supporters. They also spew hate all over the Internet in defense of Obama 24/7. They blindfully supported Obama WITHOUT researching his platform….then alot of other whites followed suit.
bottom line….Obama needs to resign from this race and the people of Illinois can deal with him and his Senate seat.
Every candidate/man of God….including Obama and Wright, need to be held to the same standard…regardless of the color of their skin.
If Obama was a white canidate….lets say Hillary Clinton and Wright was a white preacher….they would be fried by the media & black politicians….and rightfully so.
I have been saying to family & friends for a year that Obama wasn’t ready YET to be President…maybe in 8 years or a a Governorship FIRST. Remember that you never want to set a person up for failure. As a Captain in the Army, my superiors would never put me in a position that I wasn’t trained/ready for. The same should go for the Presidency.
The experience for Obama is just NOT there yet. However, Obama’s chances of holding a political office in the future is gone…probably forever.

Posted by: prob | March 17, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Oppong, go for real change, don’t change color, change perception try the woman’s point of view. Look at all the division the “men” have brought. Come on, the water is fine.

Posted by: Josey | March 17, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

Prop,
YOU NAILED IT!!!!! This is what needs to be said on national TV. Again, it’s not about race at all, but not that’s all it’s been about and it makes my stomach turn. Great points you made. You said it very elequantly and very maturely.
By the way, thank you for serving and protecting us. God speed!

Posted by: trinityusa | March 17, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

If Obama has un-renounced citizenships with other countries than the US, doesn’t that make him illegible to run for President?
Send emails to the DNC through their website to protest and ask that this be investigated. If this is true, he should not be running for President.

Posted by: Victor | March 17, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

Give me a TOTAL break! Unreal – truly! If Clinton’s pastor has spewed filth the way Wright does – all heck would break loose. Who are they kidding? Did you see those congregation members patting his back while he was giving those horrid sermons? Some of the balck community act like society owes them everything! IF Obama is elected president, they will no longer be able to complain or blame anyone else but themselves. Obama made something of himsef and he came from a single family home. He didn’t have a lot of money. Yet, he got out there and instead of complaining and whining about the country owing him something because of slavery, he achieved things on his own. Regardless, I’m voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. NO freaking way will I vote for Obama. I will NOT do it!

Posted by: shocked | March 17, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

I believe in freedom of speech. Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama can say anything they want …. but the man in the White House whose pastor sings “God Damn America” is extremely dangerous and scarely. America, wake up.

Posted by: Starr | March 17, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

Why is it wrong for others to point out how OBAMA’S CHOICE OF A HOUSE OF WORSHIP is a bit unerving/disturbing. Then you hear all these stories about his campaign being aggressive especially with the race card. Yuk! Who wants to support that behavior? Pushy and manipulative, from the guy no less.

Posted by: Josey | March 17, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

Obama is ready and prepared for the job of commander in chief. The American people have spoken since in Iowa till now and he has a high momentums than CLINTON. That’s an evidence and enough for us.

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | March 17, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

When Barack and Michelle Obama were first on 60 Minutes last year in their first interview I had no preconceived notions about Michelle. But when the interviewer asked Michelle if she was worried about Obama’s safety if he became president she said something like “Well, as a black man he is in danger just going to the gas station.”
Huh? Do you know a lot of black men killed randomly at gas stations? Oh wait, yes I do…by other BLACK men.
Back then something stuck with me that this woman was a blame white America type and I hoped I was wrong.
Since then several events have shown me my gut instinct was dead right.
Good bye Michelle Obama. You will NEVER get the honor and privilege of living in the sacred White House. That honor will go to someone who loves their country.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

The funny thing is, Michelle Obama is suddenly MIA. I think it’s because they’ve come to realize that, unlike her husband, she’s not as good as keeping her true feelings about this country under wraps until they are safely in the White House. Her real self came out in the I’ve never been proud speech. Trust me, that’s how Barack feels too. The Trinity Church was known to very anti America & white waaaay before Obama joined it. There is no excusing it.

Posted by: Lisa | March 17, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

Under the Independence Constitution of Kenya, Obama became a Kenyan citizen on December 12, 1963. http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=731
He has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. On his senate web site, Obama tap dances around his own dual nationality when discussing his father. Obama obviously knows, because his father told him, that he also held/holds Kenyan nationality.
Once again, we find Barry O concealing fascinating information about his identity. There is nothing unusual about dual nationality. Indeed, ancient Roman Law doctrines of jus sanguini and jus soli come into play, because both Kenya and the U. S. recognize dual nationality. Once again, the issue is not “legality.” The issue is the cover-up; Obama’s concealment of his own identity. From us, and most of all from himself.
Obama was also registered in both of the Jakarta schools he attended as a citizen of Indonesia. He has not renounced citizenship of Indonesia, either.
WOW a TRINATIONAL US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

I knew my grandmother was beginning to fall for the Obama facade and the other day I called her and told her to tune into Hannity & Colmes to see video tapes of Obama’s beloved pastor of 20 years. She was appalled and embarrassed she fell for his pretty speeches and it was a lot of fun teasing her and saying I told you so!

Posted by: J | March 17, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

Compton I guess you haven’t heard the tapes of the sermons where Rev Wright mocks and makes fun of and demonizes blacks who don’t also hate their country. He’s vicious when talking about Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice.
So looks like even blacks find other blacks NOT BLACK ENOUGH.
Tell black liberals that they don’t OWN their “blackness.”
Hypocrite.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

“Trust me, that’s how Barack feels too.”
Trust you?
Why?
This isn’t your real name. It’s not even the only name you’re posting under today.
And your motives are barely disguised.
Trust what exactly?

Posted by: Cogito Ergo | March 17, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am

“The US Government Needs to investigate
TUCC, UCC.”
The IRS is already investigating the TUCC for it’s political activism and political speeches by Obama in the church, which would disquality the TUCC’s tax exempt status.

Posted by: Johnny D | March 17, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

kravitz, you are right that we should be boycotting the biased media. i started about a month ago, and others i know have done the same. cnn and nbc/msnbc are on total and permanent boycott – chris matthews may get a tingle up his leg when obama speaks, but i get an extreme revulsion when i see him or russert or any of the rest of their ilk pimping for their guy and shaming the journalistic profession. so i decided i will simply boycott them. there are other avenues for news, and i will not in any way support the lies they spout. i am also boycotting ge, the owner of nbc/msnbc – need a whole kitchen of new appliances, no ge thanks. we speak through money, the only language they understand.

Posted by: so saddened | March 17, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

Why did OBama vote THREE TIMES to allow the medical neglect until death of newborns who survived late term abortions, despite amendments protecting Roe V. Wade? Was is medical liability motivations? Was it to prevent a baby from being called a human baby even though there it lay crying and breathing?
This is UGLINESS that he has not explained!

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

Trinityusa,
Wright is not a terrorist, but has committed High Treason by associating himself with terrorist. Wright and his church not only gave Ferrakhn an award but who knows, they could be sponsoring terrorism financially, probably through Rezko in whom was born in Seria. They are all connected some how and that what’s scary! Money and hate doesn’t mix well.
What proof have you got? what you are now saying is that Obama is an accomlice right? just for being a member of the church? you are democrat right? I thougt he has the right to choose and condemn? and he appeared to have condemned the political aspect of the pastor’s preahings,what’s your problem?

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

Hopeful ’08
All the legislation I need to know about is Obama voting to allow doctors to not intervene in saving the life of a baby born after a failed abortion attempt.
Yes, Mr. Wonderful, Barack Obama even went one step further than the liberal pro abortion group NARAL.
He thinks a baby should just lie there and be allowed to die.
And Rev Wright wants to G D America because WE kill innocent people?
What a bunch of crock.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

What kind of a “church” is this place?
5 days after 9/11 their pastor was telling them that somehow the attack was America’s fault. And the congregation was nodding and clapping their hands!!!
This place is no real church and Obama is not fit to be the next president of the USA.

Posted by: Missmadeleine2002 | March 17, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

I love America also, However these attacks on Obama shows how quick many Americans are trying to crucify Obama for the words of his pastor. I want all of you that feel that Obama is anti-white or somehow unamerican, to show me evidence either in words or deeds of Obama’s guilt. Otherwise you should disavow every frriend, acquaintance or relatives that holds a different view than the mainstream. Or are you just being Hypocritical and spewing untruths for political gain, or are you all just being devisive to keep the people from concentrating on the real issue’s facing this land. I bet most of the negative bloggers haven’t set foot in a church in quite a spell, ” Thou shall not bear false witness” Amen!!

Posted by: jld1959 | March 17, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am

Actually I haven’t liked Obama way before Rev Wright. It’s his wife who showed her true colors. And I’m just going to assume her husband feels the same way as she does even though he’s fooled a lot of people.
I don’t need to “take a chance” and find out.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Why not, just for giggles and to make the rest of us feel more at ease, why not let’s see if Obama would renounce his Kenyan and Indonesian citizenships since, afterall, he’s supposedly trying to make Americans believe he’s loyal to the USA?

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

I love it when liberals defend a horrible guy just because he’s a liberal black and then they play the “you don’t like him cuz he’s black” card.
Well, most conservatives would vote for Condi for president. Now what’s your excuse? Oh yes, you don’t (or wouldn’t) have one.
Get a clue. We are sooo “on” to the liberals/democrats and their hypocrisy.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

The timing is playing out well for the republicans. It’s too late for Hillary . . . . she’s done. She can’t make up so much ground this late in the game. Now the democrats are stuck with Obama, who will be easily exposed. This issue with his “reverend/mentor” is going to cause irreparable damage with the white vote. How could the democrats manage to find a way screw this election up. It was theirs for the taking. They could have won this one with a chimpanzee.

Posted by: Dave B | March 17, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am

Adams,
Obama only and let me say ONLY comdemnd Wright’s preachings after he got caught. Obama had plenty of chances to do that. Wright has been quoted last year saying that Obama may have to distance himself from him if he made the primaries. My biggest problem is that Obama is a liar and will say and spin anything to his voters. It’s also come out that there was a reporter for Newsmax Magazine that attended church with Obama there during one of Wright’s sermons against the US and Obama was nodding his head in agreement. Obama just told us on Thur/Friday that he never attended any of those sermans. Why did he have to lie. Wright and Obama have already knew this would come out eventually and denounce him and possibly his church. of course wright is ok with it. all they care about is getting obama elected and worry about it later. the WHOLE POINT IS THAT OBAMA LIED TO US and Write hates this country enough to socialize with terrorist. Obama knew that Write did that and for 20 years has been ok with that. it was also reported that years ago Oprah was part of that church as well but walked out and distanced herself due to the comments wright was making and because of that wright condenmds her for it. get the picture. if not then for you and all of you who vote obama in, God help us all

Posted by: trinityusa | March 17, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

Where have all the fake democrats gone?
Showed themselves as Republicans every one.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Posted by: Peter Paul and Mary | March 17, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

Obama will still silence you fraustrated guys once more,lets watch and see. It was written that he will be dealt exactly what you people are doing,assasination,but that at the end he will be exalted.No reasonable person will ever think he will just come out and become the commander in chief without defeating people like you(bad belle).We only pray January 20 comes as fast as possible when all the torment,threats,character assasination,hate,bad belle and jealousness will come to pass.

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

I’m voting for Obama…not his minister.

Posted by: thinking08 | March 17, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am

thinking08 can you then explain why obama voted 3X to allow medical neglect until death of newborns who survived late term abortions (often just induced labor)? The bill had amendments to protect RvW. I don’t understand this ugliness.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

WHY DID HILLARY CLINTON VOTE AGAINST THE UNBORN VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE ACT 2004,(Vote to pass a bill that would make it a criminal offense if a fetus is injured or killed while carrying out a violent crime on a pregnant woman)???

Posted by: fw | March 17, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

David,
You’ve taken those quotes out of context. He was finding himself and you missed the answers.
Try to scare everyone again. Fear-mongering at its best. Congratulations.

Posted by: thinking08 | March 17, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

It must be killing the mainstream media for their guy to be so exposed as a hypocrite. I know they’re dying to change the subject and pretend this stuff doesn’t matter.
But since they made such a huge deal of Mitt Romney being a Mormon, it’s going to be a tough sell.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am

Nothing in my post but Oboma’s own words. Truth is hard for some people to handle.

Posted by: David | March 17, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Good night. I’m not responding to a group of right-wing republicans…who enjoy sending our young men and women to die in a senseless war.

Posted by: thinking08 | March 17, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Since a highly disproportionate number of aborted babies are black, doesn’t that make those who are proponents of said abortion the racists? Blacks are 12.4% of the population, which hasn’t changed over a long time, now Mexicans are 14% of the population.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

trinityusa, Who is paying you? is it the republicans or the clinton campaign? you tried and i give you 3% mark in trying to fell Obama,If 3% mark is all you can get in all your efforts so far in numerous attempts in obnoxiously trying to paint obama black,then i think you have a whole of your lifetime to keep on trying,but for me,i think the money paid to you is just a waste cos you seem unable to tarnish Obama’s image,and also unable to convert any of his supporters, by not getting the facts and also proving it,mind you this is a formidable movement of which the timing is perfectly right,what you are trying to do is like trying to hold back a heavy rainfall that is already falling,you see what i mean?

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

I’m a black female Captain in the Army. I have served for over 20 years and I love my country…I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world.
Obama and his links to Rev. Wright/Rezco is a discrace to blacks….and blacks need to own up to it and STOP making excuses for Obama & Wright.
Before this story broke, I spoke to my 14 & 12 year old daughters about hanging around those who have a bad reputation or do bad things, because others will believe that they are the same way….Obama should have had the smarts to also know this by now!
Wright should NEVER use the pulpit to voice political rhetoric…regardless if they are true or not. The pulpit is ONLY for God’s word.
I distastefully saw people…mostly young….crying, worshipping, and idolizing Obama…calling him the Messiah. In my gut I saw trouble coming because of this.
The ONLY Messiah is Jesus Christ. When Obama didn’t ask these young people to tone it down, and when he himself rellished in the spotlight from it….he lost my vote. NO ONE puts them self on a pedestal acting as if they are Jesus Christ…ONLY Jesus Christ can do that. At that point, Obama reminded me of Jim Jones.
However, I also blame white college kids who are Obama’s core supporters. They also spew hate all over the Internet in defense of Obama 24/7. They blindfully supported Obama WITHOUT researching his platform….then alot of other whites followed suit.
bottom line….Obama needs to resign from this race and the people of Illinois can deal with him and his Senate seat.
Every candidate/man of God….including Obama and Wright, need to be held to the same standard…regardless of the color of their skin.
If Obama was a white candidate….lets say Hillary Clinton and Wright was a white preacher….they would be fried by the media & black politicians….and rightfully so.
I have been saying to family & friends for a year that Obama wasn’t ready YET to be President…maybe in 8 years or a Governorship FIRST. Remember that you never want to set a person up for failure. As a Captain in the Army, my superiors would never put me in a position that I wasn’t trained/ready for. The same should go for the Presidency.
The experience for Obama is just NOT there yet. However, Obama’s chances of holding a political office in the future is gone…probably forever.

Posted by: prob | March 17, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

Explain how abandoning Iraq to regional warring and holocaust is better than transitioning it to a stable democracy? Explain how a cutoff of oil shipments from the anarchy would improve the US economy? Explain how Obama’s “Surrender Then Return” plan will not just cost tens of thousands of more lives and untold dollars? And compare the cost of this war to Obama’s $860Billion corrupt UN program (over which teh US has no say)?
McCain will get the job done so we can come home, the100 years smear is totally taken out of context. Better to do the job right, then quit, empower/enrich al Qaeda, then return.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Prob, I agree with your post. I have felt all along that Obama’s lack of experience would end up hurting African-Americans in the long run. Daschle and Kennedy encouraged him to run for the presidency even knowing Obama lacked experience. I read comments by Daschle saying that Obama was naive and green and that his limited record in the Senate was a good thing. Maybe Daschle and Kennedy want to be puppeteers? Axelrod is no better thinking running a national marketing campaign for the presidency like he did for Patrick in Massachusetts was the way to go. Obama should have been encouraged to get more experience and wisdom before running for the presidency. A candidate for the President of the United States needs more than image and sound bites. Thanks also for your service to the country.

Posted by: mimi5 | March 17, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

“Clarence Thomas? You mean the Rush Limbaugh who wishes Condi Rice would …”
Yeah, well Jo, as you people like to keep saying. “Actions speak louder ….”
I’ll believe that of Mr Vicodin when it actually happens.
Oh, and on that “actions speak louder”:
“The following ministries have been developed under Dr. Wright’s ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.”

Posted by: Clarence B | March 17, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

I am a, educated, white 40ish male. I was considering voting for Obama. But the more I learn about him, especially with respect to his pastor’s racist views, I find myself moving toward McCain.

Posted by: eric | March 17, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am

Everything that is going in the democratic race is the media’s fault. If they simply reported the news instead of influencing the base, much of this mess would of never occurred. After all of this the public needs to take a hard look at the media’s roll in trying to sway public opinion. They have been fiddling with the republican side for years and now the democrats have a nice dose of what they have had to put up with for a long time.

Posted by: An Independent | March 17, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am

One of the best things to come out of this (besides Obama being finished) is that Americans have gotten a good look at what goes on in many black churches.
Suddenly all that whining about racism from poverty pimps like Jesse & Al isn’t going to fly as much anymore, now that we’re seeing how much reverse racism goes on in those very churches who always whine about it.
God DOES work in mysterious ways. And He has a way of exposing those who pretend to follow Him.

Posted by: J | March 17, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

please clarify the 3x vote no with regards to issue R vs W to allow medical neglect, I have check his voting record on votesmart.org, I don’t see anything to backup what u are stating. On abortion issues he vote NV which means: not voting, excused, absent or present. He did not vote. However he did vote yes to UNINTENDED PREGNANCY AMENDMENT (Vote to adopt an amendment to the Senate’s 2006 Fiscal Year Budget that allocates $100 million for the prevention of unintended pregnancies)

Posted by: fw | March 17, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

I too was thinking of supporting Obama. But to say that he just didnt know about his pastors extreme positions insults my intelligence. Wright has been preaching hatred for years…..Obama knew….The real question is how much this ranting has reached into his heart!

Posted by: steve | March 17, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

The Fallen: The True Cost Of War
March 16, 2008
By JENNIFER PIRONE
The true cost of war is tallied in lives. Since the United States-led invasion of Iraq five years ago, more than 100,000 Iraqis and 3,987 Americans have died, according to the Department of Defense.
////////////
There, you happy now?

Posted by: trusting08 | March 17, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am

Adams,
I’m not trying to do anyting. You Obama supports have already done all the damage that can be done. To actually let this man get so far with so much to hide is incredibly stupid. I’m just pointing it out so that when he gets elected and yes there is a huge possibility that he may, that when his “true” self comes out. YOU will be the ones not sleeping at night because you voted him in! By the way Hitler made great speeches as well and look what happened there…big oops. I do hope Obama beats out Hillary so McCain can eat him up for breakfast,lunch and dinner. Trust me when I say, this is just the beggining. it’s not over. Mccain has something up his sleeves and has major dirt on Obama that will come out prior to Novemeber once Hillary is out of the way. And the funny thing is, I’m a Hillary supporter you *******

Posted by: trinityusa | March 17, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

ClarenceB,
You want me to list all the charities and great things that Don Imus has done for poor kids and black kids? Would that change your mind about his racism? lol.
Yeah, didn’t think so.
Again, you guys are so transparent it’s laughable.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

Obama is done and he’s taking the Democratic Party down with him. The Dem party is not all kids on kool aid, and left wing wackos, but they are all going down with Obamarama none the less.
Kind of ironic, the party that brought Civil Rights to law being brought down by the racism of those people the Civil Rights laws were meant to help.

Posted by: Johnny D | March 17, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

Actions speak louder than words.
Obama’s words: “I’m for hope & change”
Obama’s actions: Sit in a pew listening to hateful speech for 20 years.
Yep, actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

Nice try, but McCain has no love for Hagee. Endorsement, yes.
20 years in his pews? No.
That’s your guy Obama who loves the hateful rhetoric. But nice try.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

So, if Wright is not aracist – why is Obama totally throwing them under the bus, removing him from his campaign, and disassociating himself so much? He even removed him from his website. He has not quit the church yet though. It’s all politics. He has no intention of ever giving up Wright and his beliefs. Do not be fooled! He is so transparent it’s not even funny.

Posted by: notvotingO | March 17, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

Judy B, I’m always interested in how you people who are so concerned about these fetuses wash your hands of them the SECOND they are born.
Now if you had reverence for life in other areas I could understand it. But you support a war that’s killed four thousand of our young people and 100s of thousands of Iraqis. You support a man who says he doesn’t mind it lasting a hundred years.
I guess life doesn’t matter to you as soon as it DOES get born.

Posted by: Teresa Lane | March 17, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

Louisa May In a real war, like say the Civil War at Gettysburg, 58,000 Americans died in 3 days. Iraq is lethal, but it’s not like a real war.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

geez, I thought we were all smarter than this…at least the majority anyway…were talking about a man who has been delivering speeches, sermons, whatever you want to call them for 36+ years and they are using one single 20 second clip to label him as a hate monger or a terrorist? A terrorist? Really? Dont you think that if this was apart of his usual rhetoric that the media would have more than just that sound clip as evidence? Pick up a book, any book….open it up to a random page. Read one sentence to yourself, now with that one sentence in mind can you make sense of the rest of the book? Of course not! Sounds pretty ridiculous but that is exactly what ur doing. Wake up and realize that this is just another attempt to distract voters from whats important that was strategically “discovered” right before a major vote. As I recall very early in his campaign it was talked about that he was a long time member of this church but suddenly this clip appears. Hmmmmm

Posted by: nerd | March 17, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

“Obama’s actions: Sit in a pew listening to hateful speech for 20 years.”
No JO.
“Sit in a pew where someone has managed to discover A FEW SECONDS of hateful speech in over 20 years”.
That’s closer to the truth, but I guess you can’t handle the truth. As dear Jack once said.

Posted by: Louisa May | March 17, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

McCain will win this election hands down. I dont want him to because I love Hillary, but Hillary supporters will NEVER ever ever vote or support Obama ever!!!! They rather switch parties and vote for McCain and that’s exactly what is going to happen come November. You all haven’t seen crap yet. See what Obama and his camp has created..division and especially among the democratic party. McCain is in the Middle East meeting foreign leaders right now. He is already putting on the BIG shoes while Hillary and Obama fight and waste time on race issues. Hillary is tired and her camp just wants to move on but the Obama camp wants to keep picking and picking at things and the Wright thing was what they got in return and now are scrambling to blow it off like it’s nothing. If they can’t handle the heat and it’s only warm, wait till they run against McCain its really going to get hot. With what McCain already has and with Hillary supporters, he wins hands down. Ha, ha, ha…so go ahead and vote for Obama if you want him to be torn to pieces by McCain

Posted by: ur finished obama | March 17, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

How dare you complain about the media being unfair to your church! Look at what the media did to Mitt Romney and the Mormon church. Mitt Romney was unfairly attacked as well. Huckasleaze and his religious lemmings from the South were particularly unkind towards the Mormon church and the media constantly fanned their bigotry until Romney ended his campaign. ‘Tis very unfortunate that we lost a good presidential candidate.

Posted by: Samuel | March 17, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

Teresa, if Iraq is abandoned to al Qaeda, whoever does that will be responsible for far more US deaths than by doing the job right. Iraq will fall to anarchy, holocaust, regional warring, al Qaeda will develop resources and real estate and Iraqis will lose control of the world’s 2nd largest oil reserve. Oil shipments are precarious and would cease, making US fuel astronmical and tanking the US economy further. THINK a bit, just the logistics of personnel and equipment withdrawal is a lethal operation, especially when hastily done, and ESPECIALLY when they just have to turn around and come back (OBama’s surrender and return policy).

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

In a country torn apart by war with a failing economy, a leader with the same great speaking style as Obama united half the country behind him. He had the ability to mesmerize his audience with whatever he was talking about. That leader said “He who owns the youth, owns the future”. The country was Germany – the leader was Hitler… Let us not make the mistake many germans made in their desparation for a better future and elect an unvetted candidate… This election is about more than Obama’s ability to mesmerize and energize voters. Clinton has a strong following that is energized behind her too. The difference is she has substance to go with it. She has a history that is sound. She is not a mystery to the voters. She doesnt ask us to trust her – she asks us to hold her accountable for what she has done and what she will do if she is elected President. Let the vetting and the nomination process continue. The world is watching – let’s make educated decisions based on a combination of voting records, campaign promises, judgement, credibility, patriotism, experience, qualifications, and electability. We cant afford to do any less – it is our responsibility to our country, our world, and our future.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

I think we all get it… “God Damn America”? – You can twist the stroeis, but you can’t spin hatred into love anyway.

Posted by: Leah | March 17, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

“McCain will win this election hands down. I dont want him to because I love Hillary, but Hillary supporters will NEVER ever ever vote or support Obama ever!!!! They rather switch parties and vote for McCain and that’s exactly what is going to happen come November. You all haven’t seen crap yet. See what Obama and his camp has created..division and especially among the democratic party. McCain is in the Middle East meeting foreign leaders right now. He is already putting on the BIG shoes while Hillary and Obama fight and waste time on race issues. Hillary is tired and her camp just wants to move on but the Obama camp wants to keep picking and picking at things and the Wright thing was what they got in return and now are scrambling to blow it off like it’s nothing. If they can’t handle the heat and it’s only warm, wait till they run against McCain its really going to get hot. With what McCain already has and with Hillary supporters, he wins hands down. Ha, ha, ha…so go ahead and vote for Obama if you want him to be torn to pieces by McCain”
SO true. I coulnt agree w/ u more

Posted by: the truth shall set you free | March 17, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am

Obama’s donations are tiny compared to what we’ll find out IF the Clintons ever release their current tax returns. TOO much to hide…they’ll never come clean like Obama has laid it all out on the table for you jerks to criticize.
Clinton’s library donations were exchanged for presidential PARDONS for dangerous criminals!!

Posted by: trusting08 | March 17, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

Wright’s sermons were recently. One of the most vile was this past Christmas. Can you imagine? A reverend being hateful 5 days after 9/11 AND on Christmas.
What a guy! What a reverend! What a role model.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am

My hope and my money is lost. I guess I shouldn’t have had such audacity. God help us.

Posted by: b d pope | March 17, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

Thanks captbilly …. you seem to be one of the few people here with a bit of sense…
Jo… Whats the difference between 100,000 or 50,000 ?? Were talking about human life here….dont you think one is two many?

Posted by: nerd | March 17, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Seeing as how McCain’s logical handling of Bush’s mishandling of the Iraq war will save lives compared to Obama’s lethal and costly “surrender and return” , McCain will be saving a lot of babies indeed.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

Nerd, well first it was 100,000 then a few minutes later it had climbed to “hundreds of thousands.”
I don’t know why you people are so uninformed but the myth of the numbers has been debunked several months ago, yet still you insist on higher numbers.
What’s the deal? Do you WANT it to be more deaths? You seem to eager to promote the higher number.
And there’s a huge difference between 50,000 and 100,000. And if you don’t know that, I can’t help you.
Again, why the exaggeration? Are you wanting it to be so?

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am

Who is pretending to be democrats? Not me. And just because someone has changed their mind on Obama does not mean they’re faking being a democrat.
You guys seem so scared and humiliated. It’s okay! You are not the first people to be fooled by a smooth talking poltician, and you won’t be the last. But we did tell you so.
Just don’t be so eager to drink the kool aid all the time.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am

Pro ERA, Halliburton needs to go it’s been overcharging, and pay back, and I don’t think Obama would’ve been collecting too many conservative’s guns anyway. I think there would be a run on ammo if he got elected.
And Feinstein needs to go to jail for profiting off of gravely wounded vets (MILCON).

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Obama you are a disgrace to this country with your platform of change and hope. First thing you should have done and kept doing was to reject and denounce the hateful, inflammatory remarks, said by your pastor, the one u so call uncle, the one you know for 20 or so years but never knew he hated whites or America for that matter. But you come now with your arrogance self and try to defend your friend who is filled with poison and hate. Its not working, Americans are not stupid, you keep flip flopping and shoving your message of hope and change down our throats but its not working. Then we find out that you associate and defend a racist and mean person that is spewing such hate and demeaning garbage. STOP DECEIVING THE AMERICAN VOTERS. QUIT THE RACE OBAMA, WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU!

Posted by: PB | March 17, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

macjive, I guess you don’t get Fox News. They ordered hours and hours of the sermons and have been playing the most clips of anybody. They also play the most vile. That’s why we love Fox News, you get the WHOLE story.
We’re smart. We’re informed. And we’re not going to elect an America hating guy to the White House, much as you guys would like us to. Worry about your own country, we’ll worry about ours.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

Jo my point is that the number exageratted or otherwise is just a number…lives are being lost, not just Iraqi lives and that is the issue…bickering about a number is pointless…and trust your help is the last thing I need

Posted by: nerd | March 17, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am

Hey Adams, unless that “lunch” lasted 20 years and they called him their mentors and spiritual guides, allowed him to marry them and baptize their children, then there’s really no comparison there.
But thanks for playing the game, unfortunately you lose again.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

“You are not the first people to be fooled by a smooth talking poltician”
Well, I’ll say one thing for Republicans. THAT’S not something they can claim now is it!!!
Their representatives don’t even have to be literate.

Posted by: Sausalito | March 17, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

Well, Nerd, my point is I like truth and accuracy and clearly it doesn’t matter to you guys.
That’s my point. Try to find yours.

Posted by: Jo | March 17, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

Or we can celebrate freedom of speech.

Posted by: Mike Guilford | March 17, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

Michael Lee -
“You can’t handle the truth!”

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

A pretty weak response by Trinity United Church of Christ. Trying to hide behind MLK is pretty dirty. Just compare MLK’s speeches to JAW’s; the men are not cut from the same cloth. I still support Obama, but I won’t make excuses for Wright.

Posted by: ukgreenwich | March 17, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

CC you are misinformed about the report regarding his appearance at the Latin event in Miami. Based on the time (and he was late), it is absolutely possible he attended church in Chicago the flew to Miami for that event. He does not fly commercial… there was time to spare flying private. No worries, as the press stated these things can be checked. If the information is made public with confirmed evidence, I dont really think it will change the perceptions voters already have.

Posted by: DCVoter | March 17, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am

only Senator Clinton will be able to win in November…..she was the only who could before this example of obama’s exceedingly poor judgment, and she’s still the only one who will after this example of obama’s exceedingly poor judgment

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

chris, you wish
Against dinosaur McCain, he’s a shoo-in

Posted by: shooflyshoo | March 17, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

BTW I think it was rather tacky of TUCC to bring up MLK…the assasination of a man is in no way comparable

Posted by: nerd | March 17, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

shoofly……mccain won’t beat him…..swift boat vets 2 will……mr. obama, should you win the nomination, your new name will be john kerry

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

This is as polarizing as the Juice trial;
Many of you are so infected with NPR doctrines you wouldn’t know justice if it had just occurred. So it makes no difference that in his formative years he listened to “protected” hate speeches. Does the glove mean he didn’t listen. Add to this controversy that his biological father was a radical muslim…? Continue to talk, and prepare for truth to conquer all.
“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.” WINSTON CHURCHILL

Posted by: bill | March 17, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

McCain’s been neck and neck,now he’s ahead and after Wright’s sermons are shown ad nauseum, and given McCain’s not even been in the spotlight, and given the Democrats were supposed to have a double digit lead all along, well, it’s looking like McCain all the way. McCain’s a centrist, he’s reached across the aisle again and again, he’s a budget balancer, and he is VETTED, and his history is NOT raising taxes. He’ll start a top-down gutting of waste, including 84 billion in medicaid alone, allowing thousands per family for medical insurance tax credits plus incentives which will LOWER the cost of health care, we will have the best health care in the world which is affordable and that we can FREELY CHOOSE. Hillarycare, while well-intentioned, cannot work.

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am

anyone who attempts to compare either Clinton to neo-conservatives is severely lacking in the intelligence and common sense department

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am

mccain’s an ignorant coward who couldn’t even stand up for himself when dubya questioned his patriotism in 2000……despite this, swift boat vets part 2 will destroy the obama campaign in the fall…..unless Senator Clinton is the nominee, and after 14 years of personal and political attacks from the anti-American faction, she is still standing very strong…..

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

“Conservatives would love Condi Rice in the White House….would you?”
As the old saying goes, “Pull the other one, it has bells on.”
On the other hand I WOULD have welcomed Colin Powell into the White House, even though I’m a lifelong Democrat, if he had not lied for Bush and the oil men in front of the UN.

Posted by: Stars and Stripes | March 17, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

Even if Obama decides not to campaign anymore,he surely will clinch the nomination anyway,through to the presidency,too late losers !! Church or no church.Scared rightist,this is beyond your monouvering,John McCain is no match,he is already a loser and you know that.

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am

mcccain himself admitted the economy isn’t his strongest issue, but he’s too ignorant of the realities of terrorism and all that it feeds upon to have that be his strongest arena……what exactly is he going to champion in the fall?

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am

Sorry Jo, your gotcha is lousy.
Condi is only an issue for me because she is a Bush loyalist.
I thought you all loved the fear card?
Loving your country is more than just following your leaders, and sporting a flag pin. Its your right and duty to question everything your elected officials do and will do in the future. Descent is part of being American.
Have more fun but I am off to sleep…

Posted by: CC | March 17, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

THE OBAMA PEOPLE THINK THEY WILL GET SOMETHING OUT OF CLINTONS’ TAX RETURNS. WE NEED RECORDS ON REZCO. OBAMA LIED ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY REZCKO RAISED FOR HIM, NOW WE KNOW IT IS 250,000. A SHAME, SAME OLD POLITICIAN. OBAMA CAN NEVER WIN THE GEN ELECTION IF NOMINATED

Posted by: Edward Franco | March 17, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am

Senator Clinton has been working for women’s and childrens rights for decades, helped to create an international organization for women and their respective political processes, is familiar with international protocols and leaders around the world whose support and cooperation will be ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to ending terrorism and she has her husband to help in areas, especially the economy, to help make America’s future a greater one……for our children, for our troops and for our Nation, we need Senator Hillary Clinton as our next President and Commander-in-Chief….especially right now

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am

Obama’s movement will crush McCain like a road pizza when the time comes,biggest hurdle is the nomination,and as you can see,he is already at the finishing line.

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am

McCain’s entire history is one of gutting waste and not raising taxes.
Compare that to Obama’s 52% income tax, 28%capital gains tax and 50% increase in estate taxes. Not to mention .7% of the GNP every single year for the corrupt UN over which the US has no say, over $860Billion. OUCH, tanked economy GUARANTEED. $17 for a carton of eggs!

Posted by: Judy B | March 17, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am

Obama+supporters=win……….Clinton+McCain=lose, Get it? then good night.

Posted by: Adams | March 17, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am

..no I don’t believe racism is genetic…;
but it is passed from generation to generation; By the time a child is 2 they have an acute awareness of their world…;
Mr. Obama’s step father, was deeply involved in Islamic fundamentalism…
The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth Bohr

Posted by: bill | March 17, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

i’d like to thank the pastor of Mr.Obama for his remarks. Now, as Clinton supporter we are happy for what goin on to Obama. I think this is the end of his political ambition. Goodbye Obama! we will cherish your “dreams”

Posted by: rodel | March 17, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

LOL
Mr Obama has spent 80% of his campaigan
Blaming, pointing fingers and whinning.
He will spend the rest of his campaigan
Trying to dig up dirt on people, blame them for stuff, to try to make himself look better, as he has done up to date.
We are tired of your blame game, divide and conquer, tired of you playing your race card. Sick of you lying about your friends.
I think Mr Obama needs to Grow UP, get down to Making it known what his platform is, What is going to do with it, Where and how he is going to get the funding to do it. Give us the specfics On why you should be president.
Is there anything about Barrick Obama that is worth making him president.
Time to be honest.

Posted by: seah | March 17, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am

Sorry but Senator Clinton is the most hated person of any of the three delegates. She has, even now, the strongest “dislike” rating.
The Republicans on this forum know who they fear the most. And that’s the candidate who is bringing people out to vote who would not normally vote, the candidate who is winning people outside of his demographic.
As for that specific black demographic. the Clintons would have won more respect from us if they had come out and showed that they could understand why a black man in America, for a few minutes in twenty years, might feel despairing and angry.
Or if they had showed that guilt by association was not something they had approved of.
Or if they had not suggested it was harder for rich white women to be president than black men.
We’ve had hand-me-downs since the sixties and seventies. Enough.

Posted by: Sagest | March 17, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am

WOW!! Reading this stuff…It amazes me that people are so cruel and can turn on you in a new york minute. As I recall in the not so distant past, we had laws in this country that didn’t allow some people to read or wright, eat or stay at hotels, and because of Rev. Wright giving a sermon that I have herd even Jesse Jackson give and remember when the Clintons where in office Jesse Jackson lived at the White House he was there so often. Lets get a grip and stick with the issues. One more thing…Didn’t George Bush Speak at a school that didn’t allow blacks (still!!!) three times…Listen vote for the one you think is best we all don’t have degree’s in political science but we do have the sense god gave us, so stop letting people till you who to vote for.

Posted by: jaye | March 17, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

Have you all forgotten that white churches (in the South) some 40 years ago still openly refused blacks to join them in services and prayers? How many of you -who can remember- might have felt uncomfortable with that but still didn’t leave the church because that would equal defying your community and family? Or how many of you would walk away from your grandparents altogether if they had white supremacy views? Also, it appears that Americans have a very strange sense of patriotism… from a European perspective it would appear that you all respond so fiercely to these comments because you can’t possibly come to acknowledge out loud that the US might have its severe flaws (remember hurricane Kathrina! and if not, just walk into a black ghetto and see how badly you would want to live there, as I assume most of these damn-the-pastor people in this blog live in nice suburban homes) and that growing up black in the US is indeed a hardship (and Michelle Obama acknowledging that in her thesis has no racist overtones whatsoever, but for those who are determined to read that into it because of fear or ignorance). It appears that a lot of the people that comment here don’t know anything about African-American history and instead of trying to understand why someone would say these things and why heards of congregationists don’t walk away you immediately condemn. To Europeans you are confirming that Americans indeed can’t overcome their own fears and hatreds and are incapable of thinking outside the box. Unfortunately FDR’s words “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself” are becoming more relevant by the minute again!!

Posted by: Laura | March 17, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am

30 sec.sound bite? But isn’t Obama’s popularity based on sound bites?

Posted by: WakeUpPeople | March 17, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am

It will be interesting to see how many independent voters Obama gets now that everyone will know about the separatist church he chose to attend for the past 20 years. It will also be interesting to see how many of the “white man” vote he gets when they find out what he really thinks about them. This information should make people wonder who really pushed the race card in SC?
What percentage of black votes was Obama going to get in SC before the Obama camp twisted her words? How many is he getting now. He must have learned how to maniuplate the race card pretty well from old Rev.

Posted by: tiredofit | March 17, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am

People can whine about FOX News airing the clips of Wright and say it was not fair, but the point is that they were only showing people the facts. If not during the primary then during the general election. Just think, if FOX put forth the Wright clips during the primary, what might they be holding back of Obama for the general election? They whittled away some of his numbers this time, how many will they get the next time?

Posted by: tiredofit | March 17, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am

It is obvious this church congregation has done much social good in many areas of ministry. The concern on many peoples’ hearts, though, is the church’s apparent segregation from other “races”. The idea that the “African American Chrurch” (as quoted in the above article) refers to itself as that is part of the problem. The gospel is not about “races”. There is but one race – the human race, and we all desperately need the grace of God. We segregate oueselves because we label ourselves black church or white church. That is not the true essence of the gospel message. We should recognize and appreciate how each historical culture compliments the other, and, through the grace of God, expand His Kingdom to every Tribe and Nation. When we get so easily offended by people’s ideas of us, we’re looking too much at ourselves and not enough on the plight of others.

Posted by: Tony | March 17, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am

LOL I remeber a few months back there were just as many people screaming Obama’s not black enough….now it seems like hes too black for you

Posted by: nerd | March 17, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Stop bashing on Obama and do some research. The church has white church goers.

Posted by: donis georgiou | March 17, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

This “defense” released by Obama’s church, and the forced attempt to morally equate Wright’s and Ferraro’s comments on race, isn’t really convincing to anyone. And the mainstream media is woefully falling down on their responsibility, trying to diminish the importance of a story that goes to the heart of whether Obama possesses the judgment to lead the nation, all of America, not just black America.
We can all choose to agree or disagree on Rev. Wright’s particular take on the history of race in America or even 9/11, however distasteful that may be. We can all accept that AA churches are different in atmosphere, in ways that may be uncomfortable for those not familiar with it. This is all beside the point, however.
Most voters expressing deep qualms about Obama’s candidacy because they need to know more about what make this man tick. Obama supporters put forth the Ivy-League education, the community organizing CV, etc. as relevant information for us to base our assessment of this man’s ideas and character.
Now, however, we must reconcile such facts with Obama’s longstanding, intimate relationship with a man who, by all accounts, espouses an ideology of racial politics, with ties to characters like Farrakhan, that clearly lie outside the system of political and social values that most voters wish to promote.
And, no, Mr. Obama, your cirucumlocution and evasion and dissembling “I wasn’t there for those particular sermons”) doesn’t suffice. We the voting public have a right to ask who you are, your intellectual base, your political philosophy, beyond the campaign press releases and the ghostwritten, self-promotional memoirs.

Posted by: Bartlebybickle | March 17, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am

Then let dig in with Mccain and the pastors who endorsed him. Hint those pastors are worse than Wright.

Posted by: donis georgiou | March 17, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

How is your job, bad? How is the dollar sign, ugly? You want Mccain? Give me a break!!!!

Posted by: donis georgiou | March 17, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

If the democrats nominate Obama, they are toast. But I’ll lay odds the liberals will deny and ignore this.. to their detriment. True to form.

Posted by: An opinion | March 17, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Change We CAN Believe In
“NO”Bama ’08

Posted by: time for change | March 17, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

The church sells videos of the sermons in question. That should tell you all you need to know….

Posted by: Jon S | March 17, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

I’m a black female Captain in the Army. I have served for over 20 years and I love my country…I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world.
Obama and his links to Rev. Wright/Rezco is a discrace to blacks….and blacks need to own up to it and STOP making excuses for Obama & Wright.
Before this story broke, I spoke to my 14 & 12 year old daughters about hanging around those who have a bad reputation or do bad things, because others will believe that they are the same way….Obama should have had the smarts to also know this by now!
Wright should NEVER use the pulpit to voice political rhetoric…regardless if they are true or not. The pulpit is ONLY for God’s word.
I distastefully saw people…mostly young….crying, worshipping, and idolizing Obama…calling him the Messiah. In my gut I saw trouble coming because of this.
The ONLY Messiah is Jesus Christ. When Obama didn’t ask these young people to tone it down, and when he himself rellished in the spotlight from it….he lost my vote. NO ONE puts them self on a pedestal acting as if they are Jesus Christ…ONLY Jesus Christ can do that. At that point, Obama reminded me of Jim Jones.
However, I also blame white college kids who are Obama’s core supporters. They also spew hate all over the Internet in defense of Obama 24/7. They blindfully supported Obama WITHOUT researching his platform….then alot of other whites followed suit.
bottom line….Obama needs to resign from this race and the people of Illinois can deal with him and his Senate seat.
Every candidate/man of God….including Obama and Wright, need to be held to the same standard…regardless of the color of their skin.
If Obama was a white canidate….lets say Hillary Clinton and Wright was a white preacher….they would be fried by the media & black politicians….and rightfully so.
I have been saying to family & friends for a year that Obama wasn’t ready YET to be President…maybe in 8 years or a Governorship FIRST. Remember that you never want to set a person up for failure. As a Captain in the Army, my superiors would never put me in a position that I wasn’t trained/ready for. The same should go for the Presidency.
The experience for Obama is just NOT there yet. Obama’s chances of holding a political office in the future is probably gone forever.

Posted by: prob | March 17, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

What a difference Twenty (20) years can make when determining the truth about Obama. Use this time frame as a measuring stick each time Obama answers a question about his long term relationships with the following undesirable people.
* Tony Rezko who is presently on trial for using his political contacts to shake down companies that wanted to do business with the state of Chicago.
Adhmi Auchi. London-based Iraqui billionaire who recently gave Rezko 3.5 million dollars.
* Members of the Weathermen William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers
was the founder of this notorious and violent group of the sixties. This group “actually” bombed the US Pentagon !
* Farrahkan. A black extremist who was honored by Obama’s church and given a lifetime achievement award.
* Rev. Wright who was both the minister and mentor for Obama . Also it was Rev. Wright who gave the name for Obama’s book: The Audacity of Hope. (This book left out: God Dam America.)
The Twenty year yard stick will show that Obama is either extremely naïve or a very cleaver politician who has been able to fool a large number of people.
If this subject was not brought up now, it certainly would be in the general election. It is best for the democrats to get to the truth now rather than later. The republicans will not permit Obama to get off by giving a plausible answer. Good example: Obama claims that he never heard his pastor give hateful sermons! How can this be possible over a 20 year period? His supporters try to make Obama not responsible for Rev. Wright’s hateful sermons by listing religious leaders who support McCain. ( This is comparing Apples to Oranges.) Obama sat and LISTENED to racial sermons for twenty years. Obama knew this would happen even before he became a member. How? The Trinity United Church of Christ has a 10 point Vision. This can be found on the web or in their published mission statement. #4 states: A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. (Notice it is not a commitment to America) Hence God Dam America.

Posted by: Phyllis/ PA | March 17, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Where is Reverend Wright? Why is Rev. Al Sharpton making the news rounds in Wright’s defense? Wright can’t speak for himself or Obama’s campaign has put Wright into hiding to protect their candidate? This is not transparency or honesty. This is a “new” kind of politics that is based on what appears to be hatred, diviseness and double talk on positions. Will Al Sharpton be a member of Obama’s cabinet if he is elected President? There are many questions that Obama needs to answer, and saying that Hillary is secretive and needs to release her tax forms does not answer the questions that Obama needs to answer.

Posted by: rs | March 17, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Here it is…I stood in a slave gallery a few years ago in Ghana, West Africa. I saw where everything occured partly. I saw the dock where the ships took the laves back to not only America, but other European countries as well ( we forget that part, but no one haprs on that). I traveled the roads to the slave gallery. As I traveled I wondered “How in the world did slave traders and their crews find all these Africans? The jungles are wide and expanded even now.” During the tour the African began to tell the stories. During the story I asked him ” The jungles are so wide and expanded. How did the slave traders and their crew find them?” He responded ” This is part of the story that we do not like to tell because it is an inditment against our own people. The tribe leaders would tell other where other tribes could be found in exchange for guns and whiskey.”
America was not built on the backs of the African Americans but on the injustice, intolerance, and hatred of their own people. The words spoken by PAstor Wright offended me. I once went to a church where black empowerment was preached ( the pastor was African American ). The whites were always made to feel guilty because we held the black men back. Eventually the churc crumbled and when the pastor left all the African American people left especially when he placed a white pastor in charge to lead the people. I have learned over time race issues are instilled in the African American community. There is more hatred for the wwhite man spread although not all African Americans participate in it. However if you are a member of a church you generally believe what their doctrine is or you do not join as a memeber you simply go find another church that you are more inline concerning doctrine. However, it is well proven the more you sit in a place that spews out hatred for anyone; white people, African Americans, gay people, etc..eventually that will poison you. Is Barak poisoned with the message is the question? If he is then only hate will be in his heart while in the White House and he will do everything from that stand point. If Barak Obama does not get the democrat nomination let’s see who starts the riots. And just to say this..I am not leaning toward on canidate or another at this point. I am lstill watching and listening to make up my mind at this point however here in Tennessee I did cast my vote for Hillary in the democratic primaries.

Posted by: knowthetruth | March 17, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Obama is such a two-faced, lying phony.
Of course, he’s going to “distance” himself from his pastor. What does that mean? It means that until the election is over, he won’t associate with him—at publicly. Of course Obama has also “distanced” himself from Rezko—his criminal friend who is currently indicted and who has suspiciously contributed way over $100,000 to Obama. I wonder why. Could it be he’ll want “favors” if Obama is elected? And then there is Obama’s relationship with the big energy corporation who is dumping tons of money into Obama’s campaign. All this is only the tip of the iceberg.
Just wait — the good stuff will be out this summer. Obama is Client #10!

Posted by: Jonathan | March 17, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

The sermons of Wright terrify me. They incite violence and are treasonous. Do I want a man whose spiritual advisor is a hate monger running this country? I started as an Obama supporter; however, I cannot believe that Obama was unaware of Wright’s hate filled sermons. Those released to the public were not isolated incidence. The hatred and bitterness expressed is far too deep. My fear is that Obama sat in that congregation on more that one occasion and added his heart felt “anen” to the incendary words of the Rev. Wright.
I loved Obama’s inspiring words of hope and change, but now I feel I don’t know the man well enough to judge their sincerity, and I fear they were only “words”. I can no longer vote for Obama as President of my county. I want a President who loves and supports the United States, not someone who subscribes to the council of a person who condemns America.
And don’t compare Martin Luther King to Rev. Wright. King stood for peaceful change, he did not promote hate and preach treason!
I am one person who voted for Obama in the Primary who will be voting differently in November.
We have enough issues in this country without arousing hate and violence.

Posted by: Mary Ellen Appa | March 17, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

How come we didn’t hear about this before? What would happen if there is enough evidence that Obama did attend one of Wright’s incendiary sermons?
The only way out for Obama at this point is by creating a party meltdown. This news survived the weekend, and people will be talking about this everywhere starting today. I think we are witnessing the full decay of Obama’s bid for the presidency.

Posted by: P. | March 17, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Wow, the intelligence and savvy of the Obama camp astounds me. They’ve got Al Sharpton speaking out on their behalf now?!

Posted by: Bartlebybickle | March 17, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

this election is over mccain wins b/c hillary and bill cannot realize that the election is over so they destroy the entire party. she has lost between 15-35% of the black vote and do you think these attacks on the black church is going to help her campaign considering all the racial stuff that has gone on in this election. the press has linked these stories to her campaign ( Maggie Williams – use the black campaign manager to attack the black church) and the republican machine. ABC has been trying to get this story to stick for weeks – George Stephanopoulos former Clinton press secretary has kept this story in the news. Thanks , george s., hill and bill for giving the election to McCain who is not a “crazy” republican. he is okay for the next four years.

Posted by: greenlee2 | March 17, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

This minister spewed hate and Obama ate it up for 20 years. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it.

Posted by: Dan | March 17, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

The first thing one learns in Introductory Psychology is the concept of “projection”.
Projection is in a nutshell: Blaming (and on this board screaming)about shortcomings you see in others that are really in you.
In other words the most vehement here screaming about hate and racism from Wright are themselves.. well.. haters and racists.

Posted by: Peter Anderson | March 17, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

It is an appalling to note that we are having this conversation. The only reason we are having this conversation is because we do not hold our politicians to the same standards we hold our children.
Like someone else mentioned in earlier post, I have eleven year old, I talk to daily not to hang around and associate with the wrong people and of his social responsibility and he building his character based on values and principles.
Here we have situation where we let the media, their so called expert analysts and campaign surrogates moderating our intelligence with regards how we should interpret someone who is running for the highest office in the nation and most powerful leader in the world and his long association with a pastor whose words were blatantly offensive to every rational human being in the world.
It may be true that one cannot hold one responsible for someone else said but one can question ones judgment for continuing ones long association with someone who uses unsavory remarks for whatever purpose it was for.
Suppose one cannot expect anything else in a world “where intelligence is moderated by the media, opinions are hardened by hate, purpose is driven by greed, value is judged by the expert analysts, and philosophy guided by partisanship”.

Posted by: Lost | March 17, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

ABC has been trying to get this story to stick for weeks – George Stephanopoulos former Clinton press secretary has kept this story in the news. the press has linked these stories to hillary’s campaign ( Maggie Williams – use the black campaign manager to attack the black church) along with the republican machine. this election is over mccain wins b/c hillary and bill cannot realize that the election is over so they destroy the entire party. she has lost between 15-35% of the black vote and do you think these attacks on the black church is going to help her campaign considering all the racial stuff that has gone on in this election. Thanks george s., hill and bill for giving the election to McCain who is not a “crazy” republican. he is okay for the next four years.

Posted by: greenlee2 | March 17, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

And by the way, that was at a predominantly black church.

Posted by: bolu | March 17, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Juan Williams clearly has not visited many black churches where the minister preaches a type of ‘fire and brimstone’. Those of us who have grown-up in this environment understand ministers such as Rev. Wright and separate his fiery words from his deeds. He does not suggest any form of racial hatred or racial intolerance.
Those statements that have been played over and over again by GMA should be accompanied by an evaluation of his works in the community and around the world. Rev Wright is someone I have always believed in and fully support.
We are still members of Trinity and are in know way embarrass about his comments. We understand his humanity beyond his ministry and accept him for his weaknesses and his greater good.

Posted by: Willie Carrington | March 17, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

There are strength that Obama must have been attracted to in this man. He might not agree with everything he says but understands why he is bitter. Obama’s public record is available to be scrutinized and if there is any comments that he has made or behaviour that seems to support he is not who he professes to be then bring it forward.
I’m sure if that was available someone would have brought it up.
I’m an AA man and I understand there are people like Rev Wright. You look at the good in them and alienate them. By the way, I understand most of what he said but do not support him on every.
we do need to put this issue of race behind us and move on. There are issues that are of paramount importance such as imports from China that are dangerous to our kids and definitely doesn’t discriminate

Posted by: Bolu | March 17, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

A radical black church blaming the white media for it’s problems….. anyone surprised?

Posted by: Brian | March 17, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Sure, blame Obama’s own actions, or lack thereof, in connection with his spritual mentor of 20 years on the Clintons! Conspiracy a go-go!

Posted by: Bartlebybickle | March 17, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Here, here, Hawk! The cheap pyschoanalyzing which inevitably leads to the same single conclusion, that Obama’s critics are all racists, is so lame and offensive. What, are these guys going to be making excuses for Obama if he continuously screws up as president? (Not that that’ll happen thanks to his “crazy ole uncle.”)

Posted by: Bartlebybickle | March 17, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Aaaahhhhh yes… poor Barack, he should not be held responsible for his pastors word. Afterall, he made that MLK type speach so he must be a good man.
Are you kidding me. The man has been a follower in this church for 20+ years. He knew that someday dunring this election process, his particpation in this church would come to light. Anyone who is running for office will display activities favorable to them while in the running so I discredit his MLK euphoria.
He is a phony and you can bet there is more to this story. As far as ruinign his reputation for a 15 to 30 sec sound byte. Let’s here more about the 12 + vidoe sermones for sale, I bet you find more of this rhetoric in those. bet if you even disect the tapes you will probable see O’Bama in one of them (especially since he claims he was never at any of those sermons.
He really is practicing good judgement by exposing his children to these preachings week after week. And now we see where his wife comes up with the statement “For the first time I am proud to be an American”.

Posted by: alleyoopvolley | March 17, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

It’s 3am the phone rings…..”Rev Wright, this is Barrack. The republicans are attacking me about being racist, what should I do?

Posted by: vnvet68 | March 17, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

If ABC plays the “GOD D America” speak one more time. This has gone over the edge and is borderline inciting racial tension in America. When does this become morally negligent of ABC. Of course we in the Democratic Party support this, encourage this because it helps our candidate.. I’m just discusted in our behavior and ABCs. Republicans deserve to win the election.

Posted by: goodwins | March 17, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Real men of God do not preach hatred. This is not a man of God. The fact that Obama has been going to this church for 20 years speaks volumes about his judgemnt and core beliefs. Also Michelle Obamas rants about it being “OUR TIME NOW” are resonating loudly and clearly. Your time now ? I doubt it!! We don’t need or want the Obamas or their hate-filled, radical “”"preacher”"” in the White House.

Posted by: jimbo | March 17, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

I agree Jenny,
Here are some more facts about Barrack’s position on the Irag war:
The story promises to look into Barack Obama’s changing positions on Iraq, or, as the headline puts it, “Obama stance on Iraq shows evolving view.” The Globe reports:
In July of 2004, the day after his speech at the Democratic convention catapulted him into the national spotlight, Barack Obama told a group of reporters in Boston that the United States had an “absolute obligation” to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success.
“The failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster,” he said at a lunch sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, according to an audiotape of the session. “It would dishonor the 900-plus men and women who have already died. . . . It would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective.”

Posted by: alleyoopvolley | March 17, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Obama still belongs to this church people, a church that has just compared the downfall of their pastor to the assassination of Martin Luther King!
Obama has belonged to a nutjob church for 20 years. What will he do next.. denounce the church? Obama has extremely poor judgment and cannot be trusted as President.

Posted by: Charles | March 17, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

This is a fist time blog. I personally am appalled and dismayed at the comments of “Reverend” Wright. I found his comments so offensive and objectionable, it’s my personal opinion that it is blasphemy for him to be called a pastor of any church. I am ashamed to say that I am associated with the UCC church and I also think that it’s appalling that the left-wing mainstream media has been trying to hide this story and downplay it. It is disingenuous to think that Barack Obama was not aware and did not agree with his opinions and views when he was a member of this church for 20+ years. I find the fact that he was willing to put this man on a national committee very frightening. This man displays an insidious hatred of whites, and his inflammatory statements are meant to unite black people against white and cause a great divide. I originally liked Barack Obama’s messages. I no longer trust him, will not vote for him and will campaign actively against him.

Posted by: KD | March 17, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

It’s odd for a church that claims they practise and preach peace and love when speaking about hate, etc. If they do not want to start racial spats, why bother to preach it? Continuing stirring the pot will not make things better.

Posted by: GWP | March 17, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Obama is being racist for what he hasn’t said or done. He is half-white and racist against himself? I think to move forward in America we need to spend more time understanding other races. we can fight over what his pastor said or look at the man’s record and see if he is racist as you claim. we should discuss the issue of race and find ways to reconcile for the good of the country. We have much greater problem to face as a nation instead of judging a man because of his affiliation to a particular church.

Posted by: Bolu | March 17, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Does Obama’s lack of knowledge with regard to his Pastors preachings for 20 years indicate Obama is easily fooled?
Is Obama easily fooled by people like Tony Rezko?
Aside from the many glossy puff pieces that have peppered the airwaves over the last year – the media has not really reported on who this person is.
Who is this man? Has he been influenced by this pastor? Has his wife been influenced? What does Obama really believe? Are his true beliefs hidden because he is a good politician?

Posted by: Susan | March 17, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Whatever. There’s a crazy nut in every campaign. Both Clintons had them, Carter, Reagan, Nixon, you name it. Now it’s Obama’s turn.
Get real people. Move on people.

Posted by: megan | March 17, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Regardless of any comments above…did Rev. Wright speak the truth about who the most murderous people are (this point is NOT arguable)??? I believe Senator Obama needs to distance himself from the hate of the past and those that still feel bitter resentment like Rev. Wright. However, what I heard from Jeremiah Wright was mostly (and arguably) the truth from someone not running for a political office who has likely suffered enourmous traumatizing treatment from satirical oppressors for the majority of his life, including when he himself served this Country in the US Marine Corps. Many individuals above sound like those same evil, cynical individuals that call a specific man rasict who has likely had a foot on his neck since birth. Too bad those same individuals cannot picture how it would feel to have lived his life…Moreover, they wouldn’t want to try to understand that type of resentment, but would rather call HIM racist!!!

Posted by: just joe | March 17, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Attacks on the black church??? Looks more like an attack by a racist organization masquerading as a black church on the entire white race. Watched the entire speech where Wright said that Jesus was black & controlled by white people. Obviously the reverend never learned in seminary that Jesus was born into a Jewish family & that the superscription above the cross said “This is Jesus King of the Jews”. Excusing his ignorance on the topic would be one thing but Wright then went on to say that Hillary Clinton, Giuliani & all rich white people fit the mold of those who controlled & persecuted Christ. That church can whine all they want but the facts are that congregation was cheering every single racist smear that thundered out of Wright’s mouth while the organ tooted in agreement.
Obama pretending that he knew nothing about this church’s racist tendencies doesn’t pass the smell test. He was a member for far too long & he was far too close to Wright to not have known.
Here is the major problem facing democrats. No doubt that some smart reporter is going to come up with some information that will place Obama in attendance on dates where some racist sermons took place. If he winds up being exposed for lying about not knowing he’s toast politically. If Hillary doesn’t pull out the win we are going to be stuck with a 3rd Bush term in McCain.
Obama was also less than truthful about Rezko. Obama should spare the nation any further damage & step down. He’s damaged beyond repair & will never be president. By staying on he will saddle the nation with McCain which would be a disaster for America.

Posted by: Tim | March 17, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Now I think I see why Sen Obama HAD to run for President now..so urgently NOW. He knew Sen Clinton would be his last standing opponent..a woman, whom many dislike. He knew that he could probably get the Black vote behind him. He knew he could get Oprah to help with the female vote. The unknown was whether he could get enough votes overall with his charisma and speeches.He also knew that the Dems would be a shoo in in the Fall after 8 years of Bush. He hoped his church and associations would stay hidden, at least until after the Primary. He didn’t count on the tenacity of Sen Clinton and her loyal core of supporters. He didn’t count on being caught in his own web of complications. If Sen Obama is the Democratic nominee in the Fall,Sen John McCain will be the new President come Jan 2009.

Posted by: sparklewdc | March 17, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

I think the bigger issue is that many white’s have never been to a black church and don’t understand how different white and black churches are. Black pastors have been talking about social and political issues in church for many years. Remember it was Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other black pastors that organized the bus boycott and the civil rights movement. They talked about these issues in church and I’m sure white’s would have found this quite radical at the time. I also think the church plays a different role in black society. Yes, Rev. Wright’s statements were inflamatory – but were all of them false? I’m white and I understand that some of his statements were true and not only to the black community. I know I have sat in church and heard pastor’s discuss abortion and gays in ways that I totally disagree with. There are a lot of fire and brimstone type pastors that are very inflamatory.

Posted by: Dawn | March 17, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

No-BAMA~~!!

Posted by: Ed | March 17, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Dr. Wright is a misguided soul. I will never forgive Obama for running for President, knowing this insedious, twisted view would eventually be blasted on every airwave around the globe. It is in my view, a master plan by this militant church to pit Americans against one another.
Nice try Barack, Wright and Farrakhan. We’re not going to fall for it. We will not let your radical, racist views divide and conquer America. Your views are nothing more then militant hate mongering.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | March 17, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Blaming the media…that is such an Obamian thing to do. Love and kiss the media when its good and kick and scream at the media when its not so good. This is the Obama motto….take all positions on all things but never allow one audience to see you speak to another audience….what people don’t know, won’t influence them. My two cents…this is not an attack on Obama. The attack is the hatred preached in that church for 20+ years while good black, white, asian, latino and others dedicated good energy and time to unite people and spread the message of tolerance and peace. The attack was in that church for 20 years….what the media is doing is shinning a light onto an infection that has spread way too far. A dangerous infection of division that Obama allowed to spread for 20+ years. And now he preacheds unity? where was his unity preaching in the 20 years? why didn’t he stand up just once…just once in front of that church and spoke out? I do not buy the whole claim that he is unaware of the hatred speech….I do not buy it at all.

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

One who has first hand Compassion of the pain is the only one that can bring unity….You all seem to forget that Barack is NOT the ancestor of Slaves like most African Americans are…His father is from Kenya and his mother is Anglo….I think its So funny how the right can rant and rave about gays who have no affect on their lives but then get all freaked out when they see the anger in the African American community against those who dehumanized and enslaved them….
I bet you are the same folks who think that its OK to fly a traitorous Confederate Battle Flag and know deep in your heart of hearts that the South would have outlawed slavery as soon as it won the war of Northern Agression….You are all an embarrassment to this country…How can you love America when you support an insurgency against our unity and have such hatred and a lack of compassion for the people who built this country with their blood?

Posted by: Beka13 | March 17, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

One who has first hand Compassion of the pain is the only one that can bring unity….You all seem to forget that Barack is NOT the ancestor of Slaves like most African Americans are…His father is from Kenya and his mother is Anglo….I think its So funny how the right can rant and rave about gays who have no affect on their lives but then get all freaked out when they see the anger in the African American community against those who dehumanized and enslaved them….
I bet you are the same folks who think that its OK to fly a traitorous Confederate Battle Flag and know deep in your heart of hearts that the South would have outlawed slavery as soon as it won the war of Northern Agression….You are all an embarrassment to this country…How can you love America when you support an insurgency against our unity and have such hatred for the people who built this country with their blood?

Posted by: Beka13 | March 17, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Besides issues, its important for voters to gauge a candidate’s character. The idea that Obama ran this campaign on the power of words and the idea of unity among the races….and to be discovered that he sat iddle by for 20+ while his spiritual mentor preaches hate and division pains a very inconsistent picture. I no longer know what this man stands for. I do not know what his convictions are. There are not consistent actions behind the message. He has only words to sell his message once again. And his words are all over the place…it is very disturbing.

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

You cannot blame Obama for his pastor anti-american comments but yet you hear that
Obama himself will not salute our flag, will not be sworn in by our Bible but by the Koran which
is a Muslim bible. and aren’t the Muslims the people who hate America. And isn’t this what
Rev Wright is preaching..”God Damn America.” The terrorist have always said that they
would eventually get to us from within, what better way than to have one of their own as
The President of the United States of America..

Posted by: jimsgal2 | March 17, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

I know that people hate to hear the truth, but there is a lot of truth in what Pastor Wright said especially on issues that plaque American society. There are drugs pushed into urban black communities, America is more satisfied with Black men going to prison than college, America did support Apartheid in South Africa, our nation’s silence was the support. Of course, like many of the bloggers, you all are extremely sensitive, and fail to try to hear the message of Dr. Wright. I agree, his word choices can be seen as explosive, but there is much truth in the issues is talks about. The media takes words out of context. Furthermore, it is a fair comparison to quote Dr. King in the article. He is a beloved man now nearly 40 years after he was assassinated, but many people hated what he said, and it was the absolute truth. He was hated so much that he was murdered, along with many others. The problem is that people don’t want to hear the truth and that it that!
For those who are so appalling why aren’t you equally as appalled by the conditions in which people live in urban cities, for that matter in all parts of the world, or by that fact that over 2 million American citizens are locked behind prison walls, when over 50% of those individuals have non-violence offenses and should not spend decades away from their children and family, or read the stories of the wrongly accused and convicted individuals on the inorance project website. IF YOU NEED TO BE APPALLED, BE APPALLED ABOUT THOSE CONDITIONS AND TRUTHS. Also, if this incident can make you stop supporting OBAMA, who did not say these words and have disagreed with Dr. Wright’s comments, than maybe you need to check yourself to see how post-racial you are for that matter. It sickens me that the bloggers on this site, probably don’t do a fraction of the things that Dr. Wright did as pastor in regards to HIV/AIDS, prison outreach, mentoring and tutoring programs for youth, Senior Centers, the list goes on and on. I don’t belong to his church; however, he addresses real issues. More people should be focused on. Get Thinker skin, THE TRUTH IS THE LIGHT.

Posted by: Reggan | March 17, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

The counter responses from the Obama campaign is incredibly condescending…it shows me how they truelly do not value the voters intelligence and sense of logic. To say that HIllary and Mccain both have bizarr characters endorsing them…yet conviently leave out the big difference that either Mccain or Hillary have had 20+ years closed ties to these bizarr characters nor have they called these people their sprititual mentor and advisor. Another counter response from the Obama campaing has been to point out that these things are typical of african american churches and white folks just do not understand is again….a horrific lie. I’ve been to black churches and trust me…I have never heard D___america!, I have never heard white men are evil!, I have never heard rejoycing in mass over the death of 3000 americans on 9/11 and I have never heard that aides was created by whites to kill blacks. Please…Obama is now willing to paint a wide stroke of hate onto all black churches to save his own campaign…this is incredible, outrageous and I pray and hope people see the chaos that will played out if this man becomes president.

Posted by: chris | March 17, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

After enumerating the burdens of Blacks in America, Martin Luther King would plead God help America. Obama? He appears to just want to ignor the issues because addressing them in a substantive way might jeopardize realizng his personal ambitions. Ignoring difficult issues that strike close to home is not a quality of leadership but a trait of the crass politician.

Posted by: luke | March 17, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Obama was raised by and from his American white mother but was not spared from racism. He joined a church whose pastor has racial views which are now in controversey. Despite the aforementioned experiences his campaign has still sought to be inclusive of all Americans. How many of us having being exposede to these forces would do the same?

Posted by: Patrick | March 17, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

…please be more informed, for your own good….
don’t blog if you don’t know what is happening…try abc news; cnn; c-span; maybe even the newspaper there is a novel idea…, read?

Posted by: bill | March 17, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

I was totally shocked and blown away by what Obama’s church is preaching. To watch those videos taken inside and of their sermons, to see the church members clapping and cheering, well … it’s just shocking – totally shocking!

Posted by: LiquidBlue2 | March 17, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Lets all kiss and make up! “IN YOUR DREAMS” OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jackmax | March 17, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

A ‘church’ that promotes hate and racism. A member of that congregation running America? Lets move ahead not backwards!

Posted by: A | March 17, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Who cares how many minutes are spoken over a period of time. It is painfully clear of this persons choice to speak as a racially divided indivudual that is condemening an entire race. How is what he is saying any different from other prejudice people? Do you honestly believe that the honorable Dr. martin Luther King Jr. meant for onbly white people to stop being prejudice or ALL people.
Anyone in our society can say what they want, they just have to understand that there are also consequences to what you say. Anyone can belong to nay church they want, but what that church stands for better be what you believe. The pastor is the leader of this congregation and this congregation is supportive of what he says. If they are not then members should be pushing for a pastorial change which they did not.

Posted by: Mark | March 17, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Wright is no King! He is the anti-King.

Posted by: spock | March 17, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Thanks for your excellent reporting, Mr. Tapper.
I watch only ABC news anymore. And for good reason.
Kudos to you, sir!

Posted by: LiquidBlue2 | March 17, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Barack Obama is going to change Washington and bring us all together! Oh really????
All the pieces are falling into place…
Barack Obama is the number one liberal in the Senate, decided to run for President after only 18 months in Senate, financially backed by George Soros and Moveon.org – the Hate America First crowd, Obama doesn’t always feel the need to to put his hand over his chest at the anthem or the pledge, doesn’t feel need to wear flag pin (ok but why question someone patriotism who WANTS to wear one?), pledges to eliminate us arsenal of nuclear weapons with includes balistic missles we have to protect our country from outside and now inside, an anti-white hating preacher has been his “mentor”, has married him, baptised his children and has been his pastor for nearly twenty years and never new Reverand Wright preached such vial against whites and jews??? Come on!
Michelle Obama – first time proud of America, Barack only candidate who understands the American people, anti-white thesis at Princeton, complains paying school loans, her arrogance that she understands the middle class as she lives in a 1.65 million dollar mansion that includes a sweetheart deal from a Chicagon felon with Syrian ties!! Come on!
The media hasn’t reported because they also are anti-America and are socialists. Can you imagine if any Republican candidate had Reverand Wright as their mentor!! Oh wait how about the media’s fasination with Mitt Romney being Mormon.
Don’t be fooled voters!!!!

Posted by: dc | March 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Obamas staff reported that Obama was in Miami campaigning the afternoon of the most egregious speech by Wright. Later they reported he was in Chicago in the Am near the Trinity Church but not at the event and later in the day in Florida. I thought Obama pledged not to campaign in Florida. Someone needs to get the facts straight before reporting.

Posted by: hhkeller | March 17, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Response to Spock: I agree with you. Martin Luther King would be rolling over in his grave if he knew his good name was being used for such spewing of hate!

Posted by: Joan | March 17, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

I love Hillary Clinton ..I think she’s great and will make an awesome female president.!!!

Posted by: skypawny | March 17, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

As an African American, living in the skin that I’m in for 43 years, I can tell you that such talk happens in black churches across America. It’s basis is from a history and culture that is uniques to that community of people. Did Rev. Wright speak anything that was not true as it pertains to America in that… you reap what you sow! Which tends to happen to us all. To say that such talk doesn’t happen in black churches across America is totally untrue because pastors speak on issues of the time and how those issues fit and connect with the community in a scriptural text. I do agree that Rev. Wright was a bit radical and could have found a more eloquent way to convey his thoughts and not say what what was said in such an offensive and mean spirited way. We all, both black and whites, need to stop turning a blind eye to the racism that exist in this country. To some degree, we all have our prejudices against other cultures and races but it is most prevalent amongst and between the African Americans and Caucasians. The media just fuels it by distorting the stories, showing the portion that could be made controversial, so the two races can stay at odds with one another. In 2008, I still live in a country where blacks are discriminated against in subliminal ways. At the forefront we have such things as the disparity in sentencing… 50 grams of crack (black) vs. 500 grams of cocaine (white)which is the main ingredient to making crack, a 100 to 1 disparity; Sub-prime lending; non-hire for jobs due to past felony charges and the list goes on and on. Regardless rather whites want to acknowledge it, it is a reality and it is the way of this world. The American way is to “divide and conquer”. It is at the advantage of whites to keep the strife between blacks and whites. Its a booming business and it keeps profit high. Why would anyone watch a series of video taped sermons to pick out 1 from the sunday after 9/11, over five years ago. It was aired to do exactly what it’s doing… divide. But I have some news for you… The earth is the Lords and they that dwell therein. If it’s in God’s plan… not Rev. Wright, John Hagee, President Bush, Hillary Clinton or anybody else… for Barack Obama to be President… guess what… no demon in hell will be able to stop it. Whatever the outcome, it will happen because it was predestined to happen.

Posted by: lambrigy | March 17, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

barack HUSSEIN obama’s political career is over/done/finished/finito….. hasta la vista baby…….!
what i can’t figure out is how did this empty suit managed to even get into the senate??? hmmmmmm… that is rhetorical, and hindsight, since the likes of oprah, farakan, pastor wright, rezko, and other cronies monies poured into his senate and presidential campaign, go figure!
pffffffft!

Posted by: storm | March 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

If Barack Obama wasn’t running for president, NOBODY would have cared what his preacher said. It is just fascinating to me what people pick and choose to discuss. Most importantly, no one believed that he would even be in the race and now that he is and handily, at that, the desparate political machine and racist america that cannot conceive the notion of a black president is in panic, chaos and mayhem mode. It is all utter and complete nonsense. Those who support Obama will, regardless of what is printed or said about him in the media. And, those who all of a sudden decided that “I changed my mind about Obama after hearing….” were never committed to support him in the first place. And, for those who say Obama has no credibility. Get real. So, the alternative does? If so, we ARE in trouble.

Posted by: Fe | March 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

The words of Dr Martin Luther King Jr to the effect that men should be judged, not by the color of their skins but the content of their character, was God-inspired and not racially motivated as some spiritually “sick” people out there would want to think. If God wanted just one race on earth, He should have made it all white or all black or another color for that matter. And don;t forget, you can’t play the piano on all-white or all-black keys; you need both black & white. That ought to be the beauty of this immigrant nation. It ought to be the greatness of the United States. It’s high time we all accepted the fact that God populated His world, including the US, with all colors and races. Failure to accept this fact abnegates God’s own plan for the world in general and the US in particular. The USA is sick and needs healing, from the White House and more so, to the Church House. We must break away from the vestiges of history, no matter how horrible they were, and reach out to the beauty of destiny – what MLK himself called the “brotherhood of all men.” This is not about Obama or Clinton, but it is about God, the Creator of the ends of earth. As a black man myself, who has allowed the love and touch of Jesus to heal him, I think IT IS TIME FOR OUR PEOPLE, indeed, ALL PEOPLES, in this country to receive the HEALING TOUCH OF JESUS and keep the past where it belongs. It is time to FORGIVE and let’s stop thinking and talking about the past. The only “HOPE” for America is JESUS! IT IS GOD WE NEED, not POLITICS! Let everyman, everywoman be a liar, but let God be true!

Posted by: Anthony Osuobeni | March 17, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Barack Obama, Change You Can Trust
Change You Can Trust Is Exploding In Barack Obama’s Campaign.
Change You Can Trust Has Forced The Republican Fox TV Station, (First
Cousins Of Bush) To Try And Put Barack Obama’s Campaign To Shame.
The Republican Fox TV Station, (First Cousins Of Bush) Is Spinning
Highlighted Attacks On Barack Obama Because They Are Aware
That All Bush’s Wrongs Will Be Reversed Also Exposed To Right, Once
Barack Obama Is The 2008 President Of This United States Of America.
Barack Obama, Change You Can Trust.
The Republican Fox TV Station, (First Cousins Of Bush) Are Also Attempting
With This Strategic Spin To Cast Shadows On The Fact That With All The Now
Seated And Indicted White House Administration’s Corruption President Bush
Has Boastfully And Finally Endorsed John McCain; The Main Presidential Candidate
Who Can Only Offer This Country Much More Of A Compromised, Recessionized,
Tore-up Same.
Barack Obama, Change You Can Trust.
Incidentally, Though Some Churches Speak From The Pulpit Politically During These
Times, These Churches Don’t Speak, Voice Or Vote For The People. Some Churches
Ain’t Really Spoke For The People Since Faith Base Contributions And Public Political
Attention Got Bush Elected, Corruptly Twice. The Faith Base Stuff Has Strategically
As Planned Clouded Some Church Pulpits Hearts, Judgment And Predestined
Purposes. Now That Some Churches Has Gotten Paid And Rich They Wanna
Holla, “Where Is The Separation Between Church And State?” Ain’t None,
As My Book Millennium Christian Experience Reads,
“This Is One Nation Under God.”
P.S. Pastor Wright, I really feel said what was in his heart at that time and I also feel that’s his own business and personal opinion which can’t be taken away from his by critizing him nor imposed upon anyone else simply because they are a black American Christian tryna make a change that we all can trust.

Posted by: Michelle Cooper | March 17, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Did any of you see the coverage of the New York Gov. being sworn in, on CNN? He was introducing all the prominent N.Y. politicians and when he was getting ready to introduce Hillary Clinton they cut away. How can CNN say they are not bias. I call them and complained.

Posted by: Vi | March 17, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

I can believe CNN has also joined this pastors massages when the UK politicians are discussing issues the US is descussing pastor of Obama I was not suprised abuotthe FOX news channel for them whatever Bush does is the best .Also the very thing thatthe pastor preached what is been done to Obama can we discuss policies

Posted by: Happy Kporku | March 17, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Rose M., please explain to me how it is that Sen. Obama’s blessing of love will spread love and peace to the entire world when some of the people who have been around him for years — in spite of being so close to him — are still such hate-mongers? There is only one Messiah, and Sen. Obama is NOT he!

Posted by: James Danley | March 17, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Obama and his racist, anti-American preacher are no good for the U. S.

Posted by: muhammed | March 17, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

“…The church (Obama’s) has successfully helped disadvantaged people in the community and elsewhere. Many would not be alive or living with dignity if not for the generous work of the church…..”
So has Hezbollah in Lebanon, does that make them less radical?

Posted by: BBB1961 | March 17, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

theres hate…and now there is arrogant hate….and now support of that hate….find your way and be judged….
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Posted by: Pbegley | March 17, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Sue’s comments are right on target. I too am a mother of 3 bi-racial children. For the past 30-plus years, we have attended predominately black churces as well as churches with a mixed congregation. There have been many exhillerating sermons given – but I have never heard hatred preached in this way in church. My son is an activist, and many of his views are critical of American politics and history. But there is a time and place for those criticisms. As Americans, we expect our President to be superior to the common man in intelligence, and above the fray in all social situations. Senator Obama was not a “member in passing” at this church. He has lived the most important events of his and his family’s lives within the walls of this church – as a close friend of this pastor. For him to say he was “unaware” of the attitudes of the pastor is an insult to the intelligence all of the American people. After all of his eloquent speeches and “awareness”, suddenly he has no knowledge of what was going on for the last 20 years? You can’t hear this every Sunday and not agree with it. Like the other comments about the friend with a prostitite..is Obama claiming “some of his best friends are racist?” Anyone with the intelligence that Obama claims to have who didn’t agree would have stood up to disagree, or taken their family to a new church. Shame on him, and shame on us if we don’t wake up. Everything needs to be shouted out by us citizens here and now. We all know that if the criticism comes from Hillary Clinton or any of her campaign, they will be considered “racist” comments, yet when Obama’s camp makes comments, they are “shedding the light”. It is not shedding light on our children is not teaching them to hate in church. When I stand up and salute the flag, or say the pledge of allegiance, it is to show my pride in this country for all of the good things it represents. To me, America is not defined by the Bush/Cheyneys, Black Nationalism or any other group that does not represent liberty and justice for ALL. Are there events in our history that should have never happened? Absolutely. Are there things that need to be fixed? Positively. As resfreshing as it would be after the last 8 years, I am not willing to settle for a President merely because he is able to speak eloquently in public. Wright is no MLK, and Obama is no President. The chickens truly are coming home, and they have droppings on their feet.

Posted by: Jones | March 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

“….Kennedy got through his guilty by association and so will Obama…”
Kennedy did have the pope or a catholic priest on his campaign staff. Rev Wright was part of Obama’s campaign until he resigned 2 days ago!

Posted by: BBB1961 | March 17, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

WOW- and you all talk about Rev. Wright being hateful- this has been some of the most hateful language I have heard in a while. You are basing your judgement on Barak based on something his pastor said -a 20 second sound bite(which Barak says he has denounced). The way some of the comments are saying- it sounds like everyone should be judged based on something one of their friends, family, co-worker or boss says. People need to listen to what the candidates say- not what others who might associate with them say. People are also judging Rev. Wright on one or two sermons and not a lifetime of change for the positive in so many people’s lives. America- realize we live in a country that has some hateful people and that no matter who wins, there will still be some people who dislike, blacks, whites, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Gays, Women and the list goes on- but take a moment and think for your self and not get caught up in media negative hype.

Posted by: CF | March 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Barak is no JFK, MLK or anyone like that.
Words do matter and Rev Wrigt says it all.
Actions speak louder than words.
The act of Barak sitting and listening to Wright words for 20 years speak louder than any of Baraks boring speechs.
Baraks actions of 20 years speak directly to his judgement – he has poor judgement or is so unaware of what is going on around him that Rezko and Wright must have snowed him into thinking they were good people.
Barak – not ready for prime time president.
Michelle – not proud of America and yet she would be first lady? of a country she does not like?
Republicans – havinga field day with this one. Thanks Barak, there goes the election.

Posted by: linda | March 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

to all the readers: Politics and religion don’t mix and one will burn the other. and for pastor wright and his comments I would tell him stick to what you do best and leave politics to politicians and just serve god. Pastor Wright’s comments are not acceptable by any means or shape, regardless of his achievements or how many years he served UCC; Just Serve God and spread the word of love and peace, the real message of Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Mika | March 17, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Our forefathers believed in the quote “seperation of church &state”, not as a mena to keep the governmnet free from belief systems. All people have some belief system, even aetheists believe in nothing. the reasoning was that kings, governors, lords etc etc had polluted the church and used it as a political gain far too often in Europe. we are now faced wit hthe sad reality that the same thing has taken place in many churches in America. Too often people rally their church numbers together to support a politician. Jesus said “..my Fathers house shall be a house of prayer!” as he ran out those who were only at the temple for money. We in america have gone far astray from a personal relationship with God as out father. It is a sad tragedy that this pastor would succumb to politics and neglect the more importatn issue, and that is the Kingdom of Heaven. When Israel sought a king, God gave them a king and a warning in the book of Samuel. A king is a person who can only be a person. Church is for God. a house of prayer, a place were we can personally know God as Father. It is sad to see a pastor forget that.

Posted by: pdiezel | March 17, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

“In 1996, while running for re-election, Bill Clinton sent out a mass mailing to friends and prospective donors—including one to the Nation of Islam. In it, he invited Claudette Muhammad, who at the time was chief of protocol, to be on his steering committee. “It is my way of saying thank you for your past friendship and it is my way of asking you to join me in this new campaign,” he wrote. Muhammad reprinted the letter in a memoir; a spokesman for Clinton declined to comment”
This was before 911 and Bill Clinton has nothing to do with what Barrack pastor said. He is not running for president so why should what he in 96 matter?

Posted by: BBB1961 | March 17, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I am really amazed by all of the outrageaously ignorant people who live in this country. Most white people really do not understand what it is like to be black in america. Many prominent black americans who think they have crossed over into white acceptance are quickly reminded by white people that they are not one of them. Case in point, Tiger Woods wins his first Masters in Golf and they make racist comments about not having “chicken and collard greens” for the meal. Or Oprah Winfrey being denied entry in an upscale retail establishment because she’s black, and being told they are “closed”, only to later apoligize to her when they realized who they had just denied. Or Danny Glover having a hard time catching a taxi in Manhattan. Or the many investigative reports done by 20/20 that exposes redlining in the housing market, or disparate treatment between whites and blacks in hiring, retail establishments, etc. I have been followed while shopping in so-called, upscale establishments. I was a sophomore in college and when I wanted to switch my major from biology, yes, thats right, biology, to an economics major, the faculty advisor told me during our consultation that “most people like you do better with business majors”. I was stunned to say the least. I insisted i wanted to be an economics major and after he, a white man, saw that I was not changing my mind, he relented. This happened at a private catholic college that I got accepted into based on my SAT’s and my transcript. No affirmative action. I was a very smart advanced kid. I was accepted on my merits. So for all you white people out there who want to believe that america is so color blind, get real, we are not there yet. And for all those people out there who still think that black people should “get over” slavery, i would like those same people to tell the jews to “get over” the holocaust. We accept the jews views and outrage about the holocaust but if a black person speaks out against slavery, they are somehow a “radical” or a “black nationalist”, well too bad, if the jews want us to “never forget” the holocaust, then i as a black female want america, to “never forget” slavery and the aftermath. Many people forget that after the holocaust, the jews left germany and europe. The established the state of Israel. Well, us black americans still lived here in america with our former enslavers. We still had to face over a century of disenfranchisement. And unfortunately, we still face it today. So if you do not support Obama, fine. But talk about the issues, not his pastor, or other non-important issues. I voted for Barack Obama because I would like to see him become president, not because he’s black. And when Bill Clinton was running for president, I voted for him. I didn’t know anything about him other than what the media put out there, but I wanted my vote to be for “change” and so I took a leap of faith and voted for Bill Clinton. Now because people are voting for Obama, it is a big deal. If Hillary is qualified to be president, than Barack Obama is certainly qualified, lest not forget who has been in office these last 8 years, Bush. Now if Bush can run the country, than I am more than satisfied that Obama could run the country. Find another topic to discuss. Get a life and stop worrying about candidates personal lives. When I needed a lung specialist last december, I could have cared less if he cheated on his wife, or if he had a so-called radical preacher, i wanted him to fix my lungs. I wanted a specialist who was the best at his craft. That is the point of electing a president. Not who he sleeps with or who pastors his church. If these are the issues that keep you up at night then you have a very petty dissatisfied life.

Posted by: SingleBlackFemale | March 17, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

As a resident of Chicago and a member of
a large apostolic chruch on the south-
side, I have in the past attended chruches where white people and government
bashing seemed to apease the congregation. Because I did not need
this to make me feel better (but found
it rather demeaning);I continued to
search for a chruch where the gospel was being taught. God’s Words are the most healing. I can understand why a young community organizer might affliate himself with Rev. Wright’s type of ministry because there’s where those most in need of the types of services and information he brings can be found.Please believe that when I sat
in on these ranting types of sermons I was not in agreement with the those hateful and distastful statements and
refused to add my “amen”. However, some find these ministries provide a kind of bonding “cultural ceremony” that relieves the frustration of life and blames others for their status in life.

Posted by: Dee | March 17, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

I recommend the “Reverend” and I use the term loosely, Wright go and talk to Dr. Tony Evans or any of the other true Evangelical Black Christian Leaders about where he stands and see if they don’t refer to Matthew 18 for him. If you really want to know about black evangelical christians read Dr. Evans book, “Let’s Get to Know Each Other: What White Christians Should Know about Black Christians” He is no better than the snake oil preachers who preach a prosperity gospel in contradiction to the Bible.

Posted by: Ozark_Sunshine | March 17, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

I am white. I’m sure I don’t fully understand the black mind. We will never eliminate hate and prejudice from the hearts of all people. Sin is in our (black and white) DNA. ABC reported something they thought was newsworthy. I commend them for it. They weren’t trashing the church or saying there’s nothing good about Pastor Wright. And I must say a lot of blacks don’t understand the white mind. If Pastor Wright thinks God should damn America (does he only mean white Americans?) for its sins, what does he suppose God should do about his own sins? Yes, white America has many flaws, but it also has much to commend itself. God will sort through all that. Black America also has many flaws, and much to commend itself. I think Pastor Wright’s rhetoric divides more than it unites. I think his church’s statement also divides. Please show some of the humilty Martin Luther King and Jesus displayed. Admit the mistake. It’s only admitting you’re human.

Posted by: dakotaandotter | March 17, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

I LOVE America, and I love Dr. Wright and I support Obama. I am a Christian and I am African American and I understand the disappointment Dr. Wright feels, in his many years of pastoring a people who are in many ways are forgotten about. He states the obvious, God is no-more on America’s side as He is on an Islamic countries. America, was founded on a superiority lie carried over from Europe. And we are still facing this complex. Not to say, some African Americans are not racist, but what I am saying, if God is to bless America, he has to apologize to many in this world for the dogmatism of arrogant America. So, I support Obama and I support Dr. Wrights, statement, “God damn America” for it’s insistance on saying it is right and everyone else is wrong. The only person right is Jesus and we certainly don’t see Him in the current administrations life, although they say they are Christians. Maybe Obama, can bring Jesus back to America!

Posted by: Kirk | March 17, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

How many times have you heard, “Who is Obama”? Never heard of him. Well, only if you lived in his state. So now we are hearing about who he is, why not? Don’t you want to know what his beliefs are, his moral fiber, his total embodied make up of what makes him who he is today? Okay, now we don’t like what we are hearing about who he associates with, takes money from, & who his mentors are. We are getting to know the unknown & it tastes down right nasty. What is wrong with calling himself an American? Why is it Black American? He says he has no color barriers. But his language & religion says he does. Why aren’t we all Americans. Oh, hi I am German, Swedish, Danish, Norweigan American. I don’t have a pastor condeming other races, I have always been proud to be an American & I think I know who is Obama now. Thank God for that.

Posted by: seasoned | March 17, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Since my original posting was removed for some reason, I will say it again. The only reason we’re hearing about this is because Hillary and her campaign have dug it up and given it to the media. It’s just another part of her racial propaganda campaign against Obama. This woman will do anything to become president. Including taking money from criminals and lobbyists, staying with her cheating, lying husband to further her political ambitions, using race baiting and racial propaganda because she’s behind in the primaries and tearing the democratic party apart in the process.
All because she can’t stand to lose. Well, I’ve got news for Hillary. If she somehow cheats Obama out of the nomination, McCain will bury her in so much dirt from hers and Bill’s past that she’ll be gasping for air before the general election is halfway over. You will lose, Hillary!
You should concede the nomination to Obama now and stop your slime bucket excuse for a campaign and let us unite the Democratic party and get on with what really needs to be done: Electing Obama as our next President! Go Obama! Yes we can!
And by the way, not that it should matter, but I’m a 56 year old, blue collar white male. And I think Obama is exactly the man we need in the White House!

Posted by: Thomas Jackson | March 17, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

I want a president who has wise judgment and integrity. Sen. Obama’s 20-year association with Rev. Wright, and his claim of ignorance of Rev. Wright’s views show his serious lack of judgment to be the Commander-in-Chief. Rev. Wright’s view is well known, to claim that he did not hear them is a betryal of his integrity.

Posted by: Alan Lowe | March 17, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

With all due respect to my fellow Americans, I think you are alittle confused about Dr. Wright’s so-called rhetoric for the following reasons.
First, we must understand that Dr Wright was talking to a specific body of people, which, at the time stated, were his parishioners. He was not speaking to a general body of people comprising multicultural experiences; he was not gloating about America’s hardships following 911; he was not “stumping” for political office, nor, a professed revolutionary advocating anarchy. Instead, like so many other African American ministers giving voice to the voiceless in the mainstream media, he was speaking to what most of us have always known and say to each other on many occasions of wrong doing from the sublime to the ridiculous: “What goes around comes around.” And this, I believe, is what the people were “jumping for joy about” as so many of you have sadly misunderstood. It was the empathy, not a hatred for America or white folks, flowing between a group of people who has suffered greatly amid the hypocrisy engendered by the founding fathers of this country. And, who, in many ways, are still feeling disenfranchised, remember Katrina?
Kindly remember that America also belongs to us, the African American, and we have the same right to criticize her when she is wrong and praise her when she is right, as do other Americans of international dissent. We also have the right to reclaim our history, also ignored in mainstream society, and be proud of our African heritage without being misjudged as hating America and white folks in particular. When I wear African attire or listen to African music, I am truly happy and enjoying the moment, thus hardly consumed with hatred for anyone. Must of us will fight for our homeland when attacked and have proved it by dying in its past wars; sadly, only to come home and face bigotry and hatefulness yet again. Still, historically, we African-Americans have continued to love American and hope for the best.
Suffice it to say only a fool would wish harm to his or her country, a place called home. Think about it.
Next, in my opinion, Rev. Wright, being a minister of God, was also speaking about the natural law of Cause and Effect (aka, Karma) which engenders all of creation. Most of us don’t give thought to such subliminal laws supporting our existence here on Earth, still they exist and we live on. Thus, it is encumbered upon all ministers of the gospel to teach this, and give examples from time to time no matter how uncomfortable it may be. For it is only by learning from our mistakes that we grow to appreciate this universal law and seek to follow it in all aspects of our lives. This, I believe, is what is truly behind the old adage: Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
Of course, I do understand the fear behind all of this, a fear born out of ignorance of God’s laws. If we truly understood His law, which only engenders love and prosperity, we would not fear the so-called wrath of God or His laws. My friends, God does not punish us, we do that to our selves thru ignorance of His laws of creation. God loves us and wants us to be happy and free. A short expedient to knowing this is to practice forgiveness whenever we feel fear or hatred in our hearts. For it is through forgiveness that we obtain real vision and finally understand what has been troubling us in all respects. And so we learn to lean not upon your own understandings but first seek the truth thru prayer and our willingness to forgive. Peace to all.

Posted by: LeslieRose | March 17, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Then you must be a McCain supporter, because I certainly don’t see any “integrity” in Hillary’s using the race card. And when has she ever shown any exceptional evidence of good judgment? And what, if anything has she ever been an outstanding “leader” of? A tea party? She cries and wins New Hampshire. She whines and wins Ohio. Maybe she should just put out an ad of her crying and whining and we can go ahead and anoint her Queen.
If Obama is guilty by association, then it stands to reason that Hillary is guilty by association when it comes to her husband. I find it hard to believe that she didn’t know about all of his extra-marital affairs through the years. What kind of “integrity and judgment” was involved there?
And will that be her foreign policy, to cry and whine if she can’t get her way?
Give me a break!
I have nothing against a woman being President. But just about any other woman in America would be a better President than Hillary Clinton.
She wants it too badly, for all the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Thomas Jackson | March 17, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

I cannot believe the american people, black or white could vote for Obama. The american people are not stupid. Obama can say that he doesn’t agree with what his pastor says but, if he is being truthful about being a devout christian and has been a member of this church for 20 years there is NO WAY he does not believe in the white racism that this church clearly represents. You do NOT go to a church and be a supporter for 20 years and say you don’t agree with it’s beliefs. I am really tired of hearing how it is okay for blacks to say these things in public becuse they are so oppressed…PLEASE!! We have National Negro College fund…but no White National College Fund, No Miss WHITE AMerica, and so on… If a white minister preached the same sermon and just changed the races it would become a national event and there would be yet another black holiday! Our country definately is ready for a change but NOT the kind of change Obama represents!!!

Posted by: Robn | March 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Let us not forget, that a constitutional democracy was abolished in 1933, by a charasmatic, orator with a hate filled agenda. Whom was freely and popularly elected! The agenda of the hate-monger is always peppered with truths!

Posted by: smike | March 18, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Trinity UCC’s chickens…are coming home…to roost!

Posted by: wellwell | March 18, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Obamas “minister” is trash.

Posted by: Andy | March 18, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Read on singleblackfemale has a lot of powerful words to say. She is insightful and speaks what most people know to be true and need to say and hear. It is not who Mr. Obama sleeps with or who pastors him. It is what does he stand for. He speaks of change and change is what we need. We need someone who will stand up for the rights of the American people who will not seek lobbyist to supplier our needs who can make a change in our our healthcare and who can reform our tax system. Who gives a damn who preaches him. Preaches are men before they are men of God. They are human just like you and I and they make mistakes like you and I. Not that I am condoning what he has said but not everything that is told to humankind is believed and if you are that nieve to believe that Mr. Obama believes every word that comes out of Dr. Wright’s mouth, then you all deserve another 4 years with a republican who will kill your children at war and another democrate who will believes that this was all a dream for Mr. Obama in the first place. Don’t get me wrong I think Hiliary too is a good candidate but give Barak a chance he can and will make a change.

Posted by: staysweet | March 18, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

If everything is all good with the Trinity United Church of Christ and as the church says “it is the fault of the press” then why has Obama scrapped Wright from his website and why has he distanced himself from him? If all is good shouldn’t he be defending him? I read about the church on their site and I was beginning to defend them on these blogsites but now I’m beginning to wonder…..I am really questioning Obama’s judgment because of this situation and if he is the democratic nominee I probably am not going to vote for him because for such an intelligent individual he had to have had some inkling that his pastor felt this way. Even if those comments were taken out of context I still find them extremely offensive to Americans.

Posted by: Sue Jacques | March 18, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

Christianity by definition is the desire and personal covenant to be a student, follower, and example (by choice of action) proponent of Jesus Christ’s teachings. These include the 10 commandments; one of which states:” Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” This man is certainly human. Repentance is available to each who sin. Rev. Wrights’ remarks are anything but Christian, and illuminate a sad moment in his personal walk with God and the Savior Jesus Christ.
For Obama to state after 20 years membership in this pastors’ church that he does not condone or agree with his pastor’s views is like Hillary stating that she didn’t condone and had no knowledge of her husband Bill’s infidelity.

Posted by: DJand BearDog | March 18, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

What bothers me most about this is Obama’s statement that in 20 years he never heard his pastor use such inflamitory language. Assuming he attended regularly, as he says, it doesn’t ring true. This man married the Obama’s & babtised their children. He is a close friend, as is Rezko — which makes me question Obama’s judgement for future cabinet appointments. I think Michelle is an excellent speaker & a very intelligent woman, but she has obviously been privi to some of these vitriolic sermons.
Obama was absent on controversial Senate votes — like gun control, immigration, etc. — votes that would give insight into his position on important issues.
He is a great orator, a very ambitionus politician, very intillegent & a charasmatic man, but — as someone else mentioned — the world had a similar man in 1933.
We now have a president whose lack of qualifications for the job put our country into a mess it will take years to get out of. America cannot stand another such mistake.
I am grateful for the close race which allows us Democrats time to gain insight into the character & qualifications of the candidate we will put before the public — regardless of race or sex. The present controversy is a picnic compared to what our candidate will face against the Republicans.
The new media has an obligation to inform us in all matters — good & bad — pertaining to both candidates. We don’t learn from listening only to those who agree with us — no matter how smart they are. We learn from listening to opposing opinions. This is how we make intelligent choices. I think the media is doing an excellent job.

Posted by: Jo Wragg | March 18, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

“The ministries developed under Dr. Wright’s ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.”
Similar to Hamas, the virtuous Reverend Wright’s ministries and social causes are portrayed as human-loving groups whose goal is to help the meek, downtrodden and oppressed. In reality, it appears Wright and Hamas social programs have multiple agenda’s. Reality is what it is, but you draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Chris | March 19, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Rev. Wright aside for a moment, I think senator Obama delivered a great speech today. There were some great points made today where America *should* engage in dialogue on the issue of race rather than keep it pent up like it’s taboo to discuss.
With that being said, going into this speech, Senator Obama needed to address a few things to overcome the credibility and judgment issues I have with him as a candidate.
He has based his campaign largely on a claim that he has superior judgment. He failed to justify why he had Rev. Wright be a part of his political campaign on the African American Religious Leadership Committee when he now admits:
“Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely”
Senator Obama knew early on that Rev. Wright would be a potential political liability and probably appropriately rescinded his invite to give the invocation at his presidential campaign announcement. I never heard in the speech why he felt that giving him a role, honorable or active, in his campaign was a good decision. To me, this relects poorly on his judgment and the way he has dealt with this specific issue does not bode well for his credibility.
Again, it was a good speech, but failed to answer some important questions for me. I still believe had he delivered this speech at the onset of his campaign, he could have arguably clinched this nomination. Delivering it now makes it appear more like a response to an flare up in his campaign (damage control) rather than Thought Leadership.

Posted by: LOM | March 19, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

We need to compare what Sen. Obama has said in the past with what he said today. There are several points that do not match. Obama’s statement today did not satisfactorily address his relationship to Wright. Whatever his grandmother might have said, I doubt it could rise to the level of “God damn America” or “We asked for 9/11″ as shouted from the pulpit by Rev. Wright. Nor can Grand-Ma’s racist statements to a few people compare to the hundreds, possibly thousands of people over the years in Wright’s congregation who were subjected to his racist/hateful sermons. In the background of those recordings were the loud “amens” of his congregation; apparently in support of Wright’s ideology. While a member of that congregation Obama must have stood-up and cheered “Amen!” along with the rest of the congregation every week. It is a statistical marvel that over 20 years Obama has managed to never be present when any hateful/racist statements were made by Wright. Would Wright, with his strong unabashed “public” statements, not mention nor discuss any of them with Obama at the “personal” level, one-on-one? Obama likened Wright to be as close as a “family member.” He can’t have it both ways: Either he was “close” and so, had to have known of Wright’s ideology, or their friendship was so “distant” that he could not have recognized Wright’s ideology? It’s difficult to fathom how he could have made Wright the “religious compass” of his campaign without knowing of Wright’s statements. Most people change churches when the Pastor preaches the opposite of what they believe. Obama had to at some level agreed with the Pastor’s vile ideology, AND accepted it–otherwise, such a hateful/racist person as Wright would have repulsed any true “non-racist” person. We need a more complete understanding of Obama’s “real” core beliefs before we make him our President.

Posted by: SolidSkeptic | March 19, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

I hear no voice in the media as yet trying to bring about an understanding of the abyss between the citizenry of this ‘United’ states. Every understanding voice is shushed as in the past. It appears that there will be the need for this social gospel for decades to come.

Posted by: Phyllis from CT | March 20, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

DON’T RUSH TO JUDGMENT!
As difficult as it may seem for some white and black Americans alike to digest the comments of Rev. Jeremiah Wright; We should consider the fact that he not only comes from a different generation than many of us but also from the civil rights and black nationalism eras.
His view of the U.S. Government possibly being responsible for the aids virus however, is not uncommon among non-mainstream progressive thinkers and is one of the several theories presented by some Professors, Scientist and at least one Nobel Peace Prize laureate.
Edward Hooper, a former BBC correspondent, has advanced the so-called “contaminated polio vaccine” theory for the origins of HIV and AIDS, In his exhaustively researched book, The River.
In an interview by Time magazine with Nobel Peace Prize laureate and environmental activist Wangari Maathai, it was alleged that Maathai had said that “AIDS is a biological weapon manufactured by the developing world to wipe out the black race”.
Jakob Segal, a biology professor at Humboldt University, proposes that HIV was engineered at a U.S. military laboratory at Fort Detrick, by splicing together two other viruses, Visna and HTLV-1. According to his theory, the new virus, created between 1977 and 1978, was tested on prison inmates who had volunteered for the experiment in exchange for early release. He further suggests that it was through these prisoners that the virus was spread to the population at large.
Dr. Alan Cantwell, author of AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic and Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot, says that HIV is a genetically modified organism developed by U.S. Government scientists, and that it was introduced into the population through Hepatitis B experiments performed on gay and bisexual men between 1978-1981 in major U.S. cities. Cantwell claims that these experiments were directed by Dr. Wolf Szmuness, and that there was an ongoing government cover-up of the origins of the AIDS epidemic. Similar theories have been advanced by Dr. Robert B. Strecker, Matilde Krim and by Milton William Cooper, author of Behold A Pale Horse.
Harvard-degreed independent investigator, Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, author of Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola. Nature, Accident or Intentional? and Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism and Toxic Warfare, has advanced the theory that the AIDS virus was engineered by such U.S. Government defense contractors as Litton Bionetics for the purposes of bio-warfare and “population control.”
There are several theories as to the man-made origin of the aids virus including the ‘Hunter’ Theory, the Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) theory, the Contaminated Needle Theory, the Colonialism Theory and the Conspiracy Theory. Dr. Wright just happens to buy into the Conspiracy Theory and thinks that the U.S. Government may be up to their old tricks like when they used black men as human laboratory animals during “The Tuskegee (syphilis) Experiment.
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton’s apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997.
Again I say don’t be so quick to judgment, least we judge ourselves.

Posted by: RecordStr8 | March 20, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

I am a Christian that was originally brought up in the Jewish faith, and my first wife was Jewish.
One day we went with our neighbors who were of different denominations-one Catholic, the other Jewish, to Jewish services for an important Jewish holiday. In the middle of the sermon, the rabbi starts in with how intermarriage is destroying judaism and the jews in the USA. I simply walked out in the middle and would never set foot in such a congregation again. I am not the most religious person, but I like to go to Mass once a month or so, Catholic, Episcopal, no difference to me. It is the ideas that come from the pulpit, and the kind of people in that church that make it what it is.
I really like(d) Obama and contributed to his campaign long before he was popular. But I really have to wonder know-unfortunately, this is causing me very real anguish because the Obama ‘before’ was great-now, I don’t know, honestly, I wish I did.

Posted by: Jerry | March 22, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Wright and his replacement call themselves PROPHETS. They are not prophets in the mold of the ones in the Bible. The real prophets in the Bible ( Jonah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Amos, Hosea) railed against sin and idolatry of those in their audience. They didn’t preach about someone else’s sin and try to make their audience feel better about themselves. An evidence that someone is a false teacher is when they call good evil and evil good. It’s sad that the Holy Trinity Church of Christ feels such anger and resentment that they have fallen for entertainment instead of Christ.

Posted by: Ruff | March 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

How ashamed I am of this country to allow the news media do a caricure assasinaion of anyone with 15 to 30 second sound bite the stand smugly to demoralise another with their dirt. Then turn around and beleive that this diatribe goes on every sunday.
Shame on those who found a small ray of hope in Obamas words only to give it up due to some news media dirt mongering. Maybe they should dig up the dirt on Hillary Clintons tutalige under a communist proponet and see how these people with little sense like that! I’m an Independent and have not decide who to vote for but have enough sense to know when the news media picks side its obviouse and its time to turn the channel instead of being lead astray of my beliefs.
Mr Obama stood by his beliefs and I’m satisfied with his his convictions.

Posted by: Will | March 25, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

People should pay attention to what Farrakhan said when he offered his thoughts regarding Obama, “Barack Obama has been very careful not to position himself as Reverend Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton as a promoter of “The Black Cause.” *He has been groomed, wisely so, to be seen more as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of Black people.”
Think about it “groomed wisely”

Posted by: dianej | March 29, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

What happened to the good old Dems like Joe Lieberman? I can honestly say, he is the most honest of them all and the Democratic Party threw him to the dogs.
If we had someone like him running, at least we would have a choice. Frankly, Obama scared me from the start, and now the news media is finally delving into his past , and his association with Islam beliefs. Yes, I believe he was groomed for the presidency race. America, wake up.

Posted by: Ava | April 1, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

So now Wright’s, Oprah’s and Obama’s true colors are finally coming to light. Regarding Wright … what a hypocrite … what a deceitful manipulative womanizer … what a cheat … what a disgusting example of repeated exploitation of the vulnerable. Regarding Obama … who not only chose this man as his mentor, advisor, pastor and friend … FOR TWENTY YEARS … what a gross lack of judgement, or is this a case of hypocrisy and just looking the other way? Keep America strong and safe, elect McCain/Palin in November … No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko, no mean Michelle, NOBAMA

Posted by: Gina | September 9, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

THE RACISM RED HERRING …
If Obama can get Americans to base the election on racism, then it will take their attention off the fact that he has no experience, no credentials, and no issues.

Posted by: Howard | September 23, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

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