Obama’s General Election Problem

Obama is much more competitive than Clinton against McCain in Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Virginia, Oregon, Washington and a number of other states. Clinton will probably lose in these states to McCain.

Um Ya think!!!
Yeah there’s a reason why the Republicans dont use caucuses and have a winner take all system for most primaries. They win the white house!

The caucus system that has benefitted Hillary’s competitor does not reflect an election reality, and only serves to produce marginal candidates that have a tough time winning. Bill Clinton became well aware of this and discovered he had to adopt a middle of the road posture. Let’s get on with this debacle. Hillary now, or Hillary in four years. You pick.

“There is no reason to believe that all of the democrats that voted for Clinton in the Primary won’t vote for Obama”
Yes there is. Millions of reasons. Those being voters like myself who supported Clinton in the primary, but would vote McCain if Obama is the nominee. Caucus goers and Superdelagates do not represent the mainstream voter. Is the media just discovering this fact? This is why the GOP wants to face Obamma and not Hillary.

VIK N is right. Winning ‘big states’ in a democratic primary has nothing to do with the general election.
On that note, technically Obama won Texas. He got 5 delegates more than Hillary. Why isn’t the press reporting this?

IT is more likely that Clinton supporters will come over to Obama should he get the nomination. McCain will be relying Independents as he will be having significant difficulting getting the traditional Republican base. Obama will be able to carry core democrats, up turn out, and win over independents and even some Republicans.

Jake – I have to call you on this also; this is not a “smart” post. Not because I don’t agree with it, but because it uses flawed logic. A primary is a primary, and the General is the General; you cannot extrapolate from one to the other. Using that same logic, she could have as easily concluded that Obama’s “swing” and “new” voters combined with the loyal Dems supporting Clinton (who would continue to be loyal Dems)would easily put Obama over the top in those states. Does anyone believe the former Edwards voters will not vote Democratic this fall? Or the Richardson or Kucinich voters? Does anyone see a swell of loyal Democrats rallying around Nader? I think the answer is a clear no all around. This was a propaganda piece masquerading as science.

You got it wrong, Louis, had we wanted to vote Obama we would have done so already. Once again, Trapper got the story right. The guy is on a roll today. There is an acute problem for Obama, a problem Clinton supporters have been pointing out for weeks. Now throw in FL and MI and Obama’s problems in large democratic states is magnified even more. The republicans presently have a complete free reign in both FL and MI, plus the voters in those two states are furious at the democrats. And many in those two state blame Obama for refusing to seat them. Obama’s problems only seems to grow.

One reason it’s possible that Clinton supporters will switch to McCain is because (besides being more competent that Obama) he’s a moderate Republican and is actually liberal in some of his views. He appeals to a lot of independents and moderate democrats. If McCain is a conservative’s conservative democrats would think twice about switching allegiance towards him, but that is not the case. So yes, I can actually see a lot of people who care about a candidate’s competency to switch their vote to McCain instead of Obama.

This is terribly faulty logic. Hillary Clinton may beat Obama in the primary in some states with her support by white women, seniors, blue collar workers, and unions. Nevertheless, the question is this: Will McCain be able to swing those voters away from Obama in a general election, or will they be disenfranchised by an Obama win and not support him? I find it unlikely that the blue collar union democrat vote would go for McCain, even though they voted for McCain in the primary. I also find it unlikely that the white democrat soccer mom vote that went to Hillary will go to McCain either. I can see McCain gaining some traction amongst some senior voters, but with less of the baby boomer vote that Hillary got. On the other hand, if Hillary wins the nomination, will the african american and young voters come out to vote for her or will they just stay home? The way Obama has flavored his campaign, it’s likely that many of his supporters won’t end up supporting Hillary. It remains to be seen, but I think Obama is more likely to pick up Hillary’s votes than for Hillary to pick up Obama’s votes.

To those of you who claimed that Senator Obama could bring “Republicans” and “independents” in the general election to vote for him, I have a question. Why did those people vote for Senator McCain during the open primaries in Texas and Ohio instead of voting for Senator Obama? Did they want to wait until the general election to show their support for Senator Obama rather than during the open primaries? Is that a sound logic according to your standards?

I will not vote for Obama.. i will switch parties and vote McCain ..
I have voted the past 30 years for the Dem for president.. NO OBAMA

Good point Eudemon. They have refused to question Hillary on her 35 years experience even though we know this will come to play in the general election should she win.
The press have also refused to press her on her tax returns, source of funds for library as well as her white house papers. This will come up in the general election.
Why does she want to wait until after Pensylvania to probably release her returns. she said April 16th now. If she does not secure the nominnee in April, I guarantee you, she will not release it.

Gianni, once again check the voting exit data and it shows republicans in Texas for example were 9% of the total vote. Guess who won the majority of republicans? Obama!

I GUESS HILLARY SUPPORTERS WHO THINK EXPERIENCE OR MAYBE EVEN RACE IS A FACTOR WILL PROBABLY VOTE MCCAIN,BUT THE HARD CORE DEMS WHO DON’T WANT ANOTHER BUSH,WILL PROBABLY VOTE FOR OBAMA IN THE GE.OBAMA HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF YOUNG DEMS TO THE PARTY SO HOPEFULLY THAT SHOULD HELP IN THE FALL.

She assumes that California, New York and New Jersey are battleground states.
No way.
Obama would win those states in the general. There is no way to assume that the Clinton primary voters in those states will vote for McCain in the general.

I am so tired of Obama supporters constantly touting that Clinton supporters are low income and uneducated. Fact is Clinton support crossed all socio-economic groups. I have read so many posts claiming people are higher up the hierarchical chain and that is pure arrogant Obama garbage and that is why he is going to lose the nomination. Statements they made like “They Will Fail” are the blind leading the blind. Obama looked so shocked that the Clinton ads worked. That’s where he lacks experience in politics.

Cordelia – Fair point. However, conventional wisdom is that most (not all) will continue to vote Democratic. I don’t think TX is really a purple state at this point.
Dogsoldier – Also a valid point, but if you combine Obama’s numbers from OH with even a 50% margin of Clinton’s voters there, you get a pretty solid number. The same could also said be said in reverse. Both are valid scenarios.

Let’s see if those young Dems will actually “Rock the Vote” come November.

It amazes me how this has all played out. If Senator Obama were a MAN he would concede like one. Admit there is still growth to be made within him and his line of politics come in pick up the Democratic ball in 2012. But, I doubt that to happen what I do however find interesting is all this racists stuff about the Clintons. It didn’t surface until Obama came on the scene. If he WERE A MAN as everyone likens him to Martin Luther King he would have never allowed that to happen. He would have fought his own battles (got from under Oprah, Kennedy, Michelle’s skirt) stopped all negativity coming from the people. Instead he let it grow, dividing the Democratic party line that much more.

I PREDICT I WILL NOT GET ONE RESPONSE TO HER EXPIERIENCE QUESTION. THEY NEVER HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION

The “new” Democrats, the younger generation, may be blown away with obama, enough to get on these blogs and thrash Hillary Clinton continually, hoping when demeaning Clinton, obama will win the nomination. Maybe – But
in the long run, those “new” first time voter Dems will not show up at the polls to actually vote during the election. Why? They will lose interest in the entire process. March to November is a long time.

One cannot forget two things -
Obama WON texas (99 Delegates to 94) and Hillary is getting an OVERWHELMING lift from the now free REPUBLICAN voters, who have nothing better to do now than confuse and confound the remaining Democratic races!

Good Point, Vik N.!
In fact…EXCELLENT POINT!

Intereting talk about Obama’s “shady” past. I suppose Clinton’s is squeaky clean right? If she is the general election canidate for the Democrats, the conservatives will have a field day with her. They would defintely come out not so per se to embrace Mcain, but to make sure that another Clinton (as well as the Clinton bagage) doesn’t again make it to the White House. Lets see.

Reading polls nowadays is as scientific as reading tea leaves… except that tea leaves are more accurate!
After Wyoming there ill be theoretical match ups between the “dream ticket” vs. McCain/Crist, or McCain/Sanford, or McCain/Huckabee… then pollsters will start paring up the Dem nominees with other VEEPposibilities.
Hey! We’ve got until the summer. My suggestion is pace yourselves.

NOTHING TO SAY LOU?? ARE YOU AT A LOSS FOR WORDS

PLUS I BELIEVE IT IS HILLARY THAT IS TRYING TO PUSH THE EXPIERIENCE ISSUE LIKE SHE HAS SOME.

Seriously, if Hillary is the nominee, you can count on Republicans rushing to the polls
and if she’s the nominee after this campaign you can say goodbye to a large enough margin to lose the election of youngs, independant, Republicans not thrilled by Mcain who supports Obama.
Hillary’s vote for Hillary just because they don’t follow politic closely and they hang to the most famous face.
Hillary’s financial backers they won’t follow Obama, but they won’t follow Hillary once she would win the nomination !! If Hillary is the nominee, the next day they stop financing her and they would give big cash for McCain’s campaign

Another point to add, wasn’t Clinton suppose to be the front runner from the beginning of this whole process? If so than what in the world happen? Obama wasn’t suppose to get this far was he? So if Clinton is such the “for sure” canidate, why hasn’t she clinched the nomination herself. After all she is the one who has the experience and name recognition, therefore this should have been hers a long time ago. She’s fighting (now dirty) because her back is against the wall. Instead of playing dirty, why doesn’t she list some of the accomplishments she has done in her 35 years of experience-playing up her own positives-so to speak. What has happened here is that the media is shaping too much of this political matter and is making Clinton seem like some sort of comeback kid. Well to the tell the truth she wasn’t suppose to be in this situtation anyway, right?

Democrats threw away Fl and MI ourselves. Period. With John McCain California will be a battle ground state because McCain is the only other candidate with close ties to the Latino community outside of Clinton. Which also puts other states in play with Latino populations for McCain. We can ignore these facts or face them head on. McCain is as different a republican as Obama is a democrat. This changes all the rules we call democrat states. That is why Fl and MI are so important for us to make their voice heard darn quick otherwise we are in a world of hurt.

The concept of ANYONE supporting McCain because their Dem candidate failed to get the nomination is kooky on sooo many levels. Come on people wake up, the difference in policy between Obama and Hillary is minimal yet i see the most vile viscious attacks by both Clinton and Obama supporters against one another. Start thinking about unity. Envision your candidate NOT winning, then envision continuing to support the ideals and platforms you held dear in your defeated candidate, and realize they are almost mirrored identically within the candidate who won. ANYONE who says they will switch their vote to McCain… riding around with a bus stuffed with lobbyists aboard his flip-flop talk express bus is insanity of the highest order. UNITY people.

Dog – If we vote Hillary through superdelegates … I agree California could go Republican.
Think about it. She emboldens their base (and independents) and at minimum Baracks loss if he has the voted delegates… would keep a lot of the party at home or voting for McCain.
I know some Hillary may stay home but it won’t be like that if the it is decided by superdelegates and Barack does not energize the republican base.

Response to Past. I don’t think you are looking at the big picture not to be disrespectful. Obama has no support other than Black America that’s why the racial doubt was cast so you wouldn’t vote for Hillary. You can’t see that now but you will in November and, regardless of what you’ve heard on TV you will find out how much the Republicans didn’t love him in November.

DL we got us one heck of a mix of possibilities and at this stage the best one can honestly say, it’s a toss up across the board and we’re all just along for the ride. Too many possibilities and too many what ifs. But I do know McCain is not your regular republican and that concerns me.

Mr Unite Us
If that is the truth why have so many self proclaimed Republicans voted for Obama in each contest he has been in after the Republican nomination was pretty much assured? Believe me I am telling the truth I have heard it with my own ears. The Republicans know they do not have a chance if we stick together so they are trying to break us. In fact never mind, you will not believe it until it is too late anyway\

Obama can’t win big swing states. That much has been proven.
He also can’t win Michigan and Florida if he wins by disenfranchising them.
So what is the point of the nomination?? To win the white house right?

You may have missed my point. The reason I would switch to McC over Obama has nothing to do with my devotion to the idea of my candidate winning the nom. Basically, I don’t think Obama has the ability to run the country, even though he shares my values.
Pretty simple. Just because the people I go to church with believe the same way I do, doesn’t mean I’d hire any one of them to run my company. Its a question of competence and experience I can evaluate. You may disagree with my evaluation of McC, you may think he flip flops, and he is a hawk but you can’t deny his experience with working across the aisle to get stuff done.

Yeah, I’m sure McCain who supports Bush tax cuts, told Michigan voters “you’re jobs aren’t coming back folks”, and thinks NAFTA is fabulous will really give Obama some trouble in Ohio. Give me a break.

“Past”, I think I love you.

Dogsoldier – I wouldn’t worry about FL and MI too much. I think it’s a bunch of hand-wringing for effect. Politics and reality TV have a lot in common (manufactured drama). As I’ve heard it there are really only two scenarios that will play out. 1) they re-vote (or caucus) plain and simple and get sat at the convention 2) they get sat in a 50-50 split so they do not affect the outcome, but are at least enfranchised. FL will still be a battleground, it’s just the dynamics of the populace. Who will win in Nov.? The one with the most votes, plain and simple.

mgck59,
Oh yeah??? Just telling it like it has to be told that’s all!

How will the Clintons’ new corruption trial, scheduled to start in October in CA affect the election?
I already have Clinton fatigue thinking about it. It might make for juicy TV, but we’ll have to cover the eyes and ears of our little ones.

Let the American PEOPLE see your TAX RETURNS Clinton ! What are you afraid of ?

I don’t think he has a problem I think the bigots across America do.

The fact that the Democrats in a state (like Ohio) prefer Hillary to Obama doesn’t really tell us much about the eventual Democratic candidate’s chances of carrying the state in the general election against McCain. We don’t know whether these people who voted for Hillary would support Obama (if he were nominated) in the general election, or whether they’d stay home, or whether they’d vote for McCain.
I also don’t like this suggestion that who voters in Ohio or Pennsylvania choose is more important than who voters anywhere else choose. In my opinion, whoever receives the most votes in the primaries throughout the country should be the party’s candidate, end of story. That’s the only fair outcome. In the meantime let’s all try to stay united as a party and put a Democrat in the White House.

Lol. No one has won the white house if they lost Ohio primary for like 48 years.
Burton looks to Missouri??? He won by 1% in a small bell weather state. All the big states? He LOST BY DOUBLE DIGITS.
Virginia has no chance. It hasnt voted democrat in 50 years either.
Fun Fact for Obama lovers:
Obama will surely win 90% of the african american vote in the general election right? His big ‘ace in the hole’ ?
Yeah. In 2004 , 88% of african americans NATIONWIDE voted for John Kerry . 11% for Bush.
How many african american states did Kerry win ? ZERO .
Obama is a LAME DUCK in a general election. Say goodbye to california. His BIGGEST mistake is he could not con Latios. They hate him

“we saw the numbers in reference to the Republicans this is just a primary to decide who is strong enough to run against the Republican candidate. For instance If I were a “Republican and I wanted my candidate to win I would vote for the less likely, I would have the people in my party come out in strong numbers to help vote the weaker in. So, when November came I would than cross back over to my party and vote my elected official into office. Make sense?”
Yes that makes perfect sense and that is exactly what I am trying to get across. Look at the number of Republicans voting in the Dem race. They are going in large part to Obama. That is who they think they have the best chance of beating. This is so frustrating, why is no one noticing how many are voting Dem vs. Repub in prodominatly Red States? Do you all really believe that they are switching parties. Wake up Democrates before it is too late!

If Barack Obama were white, he would have been laughed off the stage 2 years ago. He is a first term Senator with virtually no experience, and while he is an excellent orator, that’s about all he is in terms of leading the nation. He is a political darling because of his race. We can all thank mainstream media for his unceasing prominence, and we can thank the (obvious) stupidity and naivite of America voters for his ascent.

Obama campaign boasts $55 million received in February…yet ALL that money still didn’t help him win crucial states like Ohio & Texas that he needed. Such a shame.
Next month they can boast $100 million for March, losing Penn. and all it will show is that the Obama camp only knows how to waste a ton of money!
Just think how much he would have squandered as President! Keep going Hillary!

What an education this has been, watching this Dem nomination process move forward. Honestly, I never would have believed that there are so many racists and bigots in this country. What are people afraid of. Senator Obama has obviously accomplished so much to be in the position he is in. So his experience in terms of years doesn’t add up to McCains or Hillary’s.
Like Reagan, he will surround himself with statesman and highly qualified people and do wonderfully. He’ll make this country proud when he walks off Air Force One. Get over the experience thing and let’s move forward with someone who has the judgement and learning curve to unite this country.

Some independents and swing voters may like what some of what Barack says now…
National polls showed that people thought Hillary would do the best job as Commander in Chief.
The more people think about it, the more they will want the person who they know is most qualified, would work the hardest, and do the most efficient and effective job governing our country.
We are seeing as the tide turns, and we get closer to the actual election and what is really at stake, how what is most important to people is security.
Security for the country. Security for the economy.
Security of known candidates who have proven themselves with national experience vs. an unknown candidate with very little national experience.
A lot of those who voted for Hillary in Ohio would never vote for Barack.
They would vote for McCain.
These people are practical, pragmatic realists who don’t want to mess around.
Nobody wants to take chances at such an important time.
Even in Texas where he outspent her 3 or 4 to 1, people know what’s at stake.
They don’t want an inexperienced candidate.
Barack will do as much if not more to rally the Republican base. You really think they’re going to want an ‘inexperienced anti-war liberal’ like Barack to be their president?
No – they know that Hillary is truly more of a contender against McCain than Barack.
By the time their 527 ads get done with Barack – it won’t be pretty at all.
He has no idea what’s potentially coming. The Clintons have only raised legitimate questions about his experience and dealings – asking people to think.
The Republicans will be ruthless and unkind and will actually scare the chitlins out of people and it will work with the swing voters, because of all his inexperience and because he is so untested and unknown.
No matter what he says.
People will want proof. And there’s not enough.
Hillary is a better opponent against McCain because ultimately people will want what is best for security and the economy.
Hillary will be smarter on security.
And smarter about the economy.
She would outshine McCain in the debates.
People would realize she’s truly the one most qualified to help our country.
And that voting for her to work for them, is in their own best interest.

How INSANE do you have to be to dislike Obama sooo much that you would rather vote for McCain which is basically a third term for Bush??? Really Folks come on. And this notion that Obama is not qualified to be president is nonsense. Even Hillary has stated he is qualified. I do not and will never understand this hatred within the Democratic party going on right now. I DONT UNDERSTAND you people who have to have it your way or NO way at all. It’s gotta be Hillary or its gotta be Obama or i am voting for a Repub? Are you kidding me? Really? Am i on candid camera? I have to believe either you are secretly Repubs posing as Dems on here or you are just too blinded by hate in this battle for the nomination. WE…i said WE have an election to win. ANY Dem who votes for McCain because of this supposed experience misses the point. Even if he has experience, its HIS POLICIES to worry about. God forbid his experience translates into conservative judges to overturn Roe Vs. Wade, or privatizing everything that he possibly can. Stirring up another four years of fear mongering. Possibly attacking Iran. More special interests running things, more lobbyist and corperate control of our democracy. Come on folks either admit you are really a republican or vote for policies. This cy-baby nonsense about not having it your way is more than foolhearty. you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. Hillary OR Obama would make fine presidents PERIOD.

I truly believe Hillary is without question, the most competent candidate.
As a devoted democrat, I would vote for Barack, and would never vote for McCain,
because he’s too much of a hawk for anyone’s own good.
I have heard many Obama supporters say they would vote for McCain or not vote.
There was also a poll that said more Obama supporters have doubts about him than Hillary supporters have about her.
So if his supporters have doubts about him now, how realistic do you think it is that he could really carry swing voters after the 527 ads get done truly scaring people about him?
I think the Hillary supporters who say they would vote for McCain are just really mad at the media right now for not representing Hillary or her vast variety of supporters, fairly or accurately.
People say things in the heat of the moment, that change later.
But that can also be said of some of Barack’s appeal. There are those who like what he says, but the more they think about it, the more they question his real qualifications.
The swing voters are the ones who decide elections, they are usually practical realists. Many will be scared of Obama making lots of mistakes. They will think that at least they know where McCain stands. They will trust McCain, and many will not trust Obama.
Hillary has won over skeptics in New York. When people get to know the real Hillary, they like her.

Reganfan:
The Clintons clearly threaten you.
People are often threatened by truly intelligent, competent people.
But it’s in your best interest to like them, because there is no one more dedicated or hard working for this country than the Clintons.
So stop demonizing them. They help this country more than anyone else.
They did not bring race or biogtry into this race. The press did.
Everyone who truly knows them, knows they are not, and never have been racists.
They are true progressives.
We need their dedication and expertise.

Clinton said she has experience, she supported NAFTA, Bad judgment. Secondly she supported the war in Iraq, Bad Judgement, Thirdly she refused to release her tax returns, maybe she ws hiding something, Bad judgement.
The one big issue that has defined United States foreign policy in recent years is the war in Iraq. Obama showed good judgemnt. Here Americans, it is judgemnt that matters.
How can you say that a man who does not have good swimming skills, but has swam for a long time is better than the one who has good swimming skills but has not swam for a long time.
Years of bad judgement is not good experience and fews years of good judgement is brings a lifetime of good experience for the people.
Don’t miss this chance Americans, vote Obama …!!!

Whoever gets the MOST ELECTED DELEGATES….WINS!
Simple, huh?
Supers CAN’T step in and say “SOME states MIGHT be too racist/sexist so WE are going to choose”
Vote as the People did and follow the rules.

Obama with his message of hope would be a good tele – evangelist but it takes a fighter like Hillary to get anything done in Washington. Hillary will roll up her sleeves and get the job done.

First off the Superdelegates need to actually look at who core democrates are voting for before they pledge. And that seems to be Clinton. They should not base anything on any of the primariies that had independant and republicans coming out for Obama for these votes will change in the fall. I personally think that the DNC and delgates are doing a disservice to it’s core democratic constituients if they let Obama be the nonimee for he has not held the majority of actual democratic votes. Clinton beats him in this department. DNC should also rethink caucuses for now looking at the Texas results we know that they truly don’t represent the actual popular vote. Michigan and Fla should be sat and who gives a darn about which state votes first.

I will say it again and again….
The concept of ANYONE supporting McCain because their Dem candidate failed to get the nomination is kooky on sooo many levels. Come on people wake up, the difference in policy between Obama and Hillary is minimal yet i see the most vile viscious attacks by both Clinton and Obama supporters against one another. Start thinking about unity. Envision your candidate NOT winning, then envision continuing to support the ideals and platforms you held dear in your defeated candidate, and realize they are almost mirrored identically within the candidate who won. ANYONE who says they will switch their vote to McCain… riding around with a bus stuffed with lobbyists aboard his flip-flop talk express bus is insanity of the highest order. UNITY people. Vote for policies. If you are a Dem and are thinking of voting for McCain if your candidate doesnt get the Dem Nom then ask yourself this: If you are a Dem how do you feel about more nation building? Stringing out the War? Over-turning Roe V Wade? Privitization of Social Security or any government program for that matter? How do you feel about the potential for a war with Iran? How do you like the idea of greater corperate intrest? How do you feel about John’s entire bus being filled with Lobbyists? What about some more illegal wire tapping in the name of security? See to me I think its INSANE to vote for McCain just because your Nom didnt win. I vote for policies and i vote even when my candidate doesnt make the final ballot.

Obama has proven himself to be a divisive and disliked character by democrats and his wife is hated by everyone. He needs to drop out and see the writing on the wall. His NAFTA-gate, Rezko, racist psstor Wright, anti-American wife should be a tell tale sign of a general election fiasco for Democrats if they elect him.
Every Democrat that I know will cross party lines to vote for McCain. With Obama as a candidate McCain reclaims California as a red state and Republicans land slide to a win.
As the truth about Obama comes out his poll numbers keep sliding. Republicans will destroy him by showing how he is just another dirty Chicago style politician.

Hillary is our most qualified choice now, but I think and hope Barack has a promising future.
I do not think he is a “dirty” politician. He has made mistakes that he’s not really owning up to or willing to even talk about, or take questions on.
He has been full of self-serving double standards, has used a lot of double speak, and been quite hypocritical.
But he is in politics afterall, and I think he is a good person, and one day with even more qualifications and proof of his abilities in national politics, I think and hope he could eventually make a good president. But I truly don’t think he is ready.

The key is that in order to win against the Republicans, Barack has to prove himself in national politics, and he hasn’t done that yet.
Things can look good now, but they will change as the Republicans attack, and people won’t trust Barack because he hasn’t been proven.
It’s all about the swing voters, and they aren’t going to want to take chances this election.

The Clintons will not be able to erase the will of the people, unless the Democratic Party leadership decide to sell the people out.
He won establishing a command lead in pledged delegates. It is ironic that some in the National media call the number close. Close is when one party is able to reverse the lead. There is no plausible way that the Clinton machine can overcome the Obama lead.
The outcome is clear: Obama. Unless, of course, the Democratic Party wants to sabotage the process and end up in the same situation as 1968 and 1972.

I don’t see much written about whether Obama can hold onto the Latino vote in a general election against McCain, considering McCain’s previous stances on immigration.

Colorado is a caucus state, and Obama’s Va win was due to the huge black vote. Wisconsin is no bellweather in anyone’s mind. Good try Obama spokesman. What’s balderdash is Obama winning in November.

Dan, wake UP! WAKE UP! These are not the 90s, see what Samantha Power did? Is she one of those experienced people Obama is surrounding himself with? Did he not say he wants to change things and do away with old Washington? If he is truly pushing change, then he should not have any of the traditional and experienced people so yes, he would have people like Samantha Power making idiotic statements at international negotiations. I hope that all of you wake up and realize you’re in a trance before it is too late. I said this too about Bush. Now look at where we are today. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK.

I don’t care what Bill Burton says, if Obama wins the nomination, McCain will win the general – period.
Every delegate loaded state has been won by Hillary and for good reason. Texas, Ohio, California, NY, Florida etc. Obama wins Missouri and Illinois and Maine. Congrats dude, but news flash: many of the voters that voted for Clinton in those states will be voting for McCain in the general if BO wins. Why? Because his rhetoric is getting stale and it’s all he has. Seriously, wWe’re at war, our economy is in shambles. We don’t have time for a rookie like Obama to ummm and hope and think about what to do. And if you think I’m wrong – just wait for the commercials the repubs will put out re: experience. And watch McCain win.
So if you want a Dem president in the white house – vote for Hillary. She can beat McCain. With her eyes closed. Obama cannot. Not even with all the helpful people who are holding his hand and writing his speeches.

actually, obamaites, clinton supporters going to mccain instead of obama isn’t just speculation. rasmussen polls show that 20% of clinton supporters would vote mccain over obama, compared to 10% of obama supporters. plus florida is absolutely furious at obama – hillary could win florida but obama has no chance whatsoever to win florida. and ability to win the big states does have meaning. obama’s winning caucuses in red states doesn’t; it just gives him delegates in the nomination battle. and if you’re buying the line that he can make those states competitive, i would love to sell you the brooklyn bridge.

MomentofZen,
You don’t seem to understand zen very well to be calling yourself that. One must mature through experience and in Zen every mind should be a beginners mind. But no one said to elect an unexperienced Chicago style hack like Obama.
I cannot believe you would compare Obama to Reagan. Regan was a two term Governor of my state. He took on a lot of chaos in California during those years and had to clamp down at times using the national guard. Obama is more like Jesse Jackson or Mayor Daly of Chicago.
Anyways, don’t insult the great former Governor Ronald Reagan by comparing him to Obama. Reagan took on the 1960′s anarchists in California and brought down the soviet union. My friend, obama is a joke. Tell him to go back to Chicago and do something before applying for the toughest job in the country.

I am so happy people are finally coming out and stating things so clearly – that they are racist and will never vote for a black!! You have all been hiding under all sorts of reasons against Barack. When he keeps the lead and there is no new thing you can say, you finally admit that the real reason is because he is black and you are racist!!!
Thank you! And that is so true – I know very much that racism will never die. Most whites will always be racist!!! Always! I wish Obama the best. One part of me does not want him to win because it is going to be a miracle they(the racist psychos) dont kill him if he wins.
Out of the remaining 3 candidates, Obama’s the best. But racism will not allow America to admit facts. Pathetic! So SAD!

To the guy up top who disparages the Obama-Reagan comparison: The Soviet Union took themselves down by getting bogged down in a meaningless war in Afghanistan (against the people we financed, who we now are stuck fighting) for 20 years! Don’t you forget it. Reagan was the lucky guy who happened to be president at the time.

“we saw the numbers in reference to the Republicans this is just a primary to decide who is strong enough to run against the Republican candidate. For instance If I were a “Republican and I wanted my candidate to win I would vote for the less likely, I would have the people in my party come out in strong numbers to help vote the weaker in. So, when November came I would than cross back over to my party and vote my elected official into office. Make sense?”
Yes that makes perfect sense and that is exactly what I am trying to get across. Look at the number of Republicans voting in the Dem race. They are going in large part to Obama. That is who they think they have the best chance of beating. This is so frustrating, why is no one noticing how many are voting Dem vs. Repub in prodominatly Red States? Do you all really believe that they are switching parties. Wake up Democrates before it is too late!
To those that say that the Republicans are voting for Hillary, where are you getting your information? All the stats that I have seen say just that they are going for Obama 9 to 1. What does that say to you? Also who won all the Red States? Ok you are just repeating what Rush Limbaugh the drug addict put out. Are you really that
gullible?

Yeah, National polls show that Hillary is preferred over Obama too.
Also, those same polls show Hillary beating McCain in the fall.

I’m looking for transformation….we need integrity, service-before-self, and excellence-in-all-we-do in a leader so this nation can once again lead the world and we need it to start in the White House.
Yes we do. And that is why I am for Hillary.
STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AIDE and look at history.