Private Worries as Team Clinton Looks for Best Case Scenarios
ABC News’ Kate Snow and Eloise Harper report: As she makes her way across Ohio, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., is preaching optimism.
"I have seen in the last weeks, the resilience, and the grit and the determination of the people of Youngstown, and across Ohio, and we’re going to win!" she told voters in Youngstown, Sunday.
But privately, Clinton campaign advisors say their own internal polls show the race tightening in Ohio and remaining very close in Texas.
"We’re going to go full bore and see what happens," a senior advisor told ABC News, Sunday.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is outspending Clinton on the airwaves by about two to one. And in some markets, Clinton aides say they believe he has spent closer to three times as much on advertising.
"I’ve never seen the likes of this," said the advisor.
In their best case scenario, Clinton aides hope she could win Ohio by 3 to 6 points and squeak out a victory in Texas. They would consider that a good night and reason to fight on to Pennsylvania, which holds its primary on April 22.
Other scenarios, they admit, are not so pretty.
"If she wins Texas and loses Ohio, it becomes a harder argument to make that she can win Pennsylvania," said the senior advisor.
And pressure among fellow Democrats is mounting.
On Sunday, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson — who recently left the Democratic presidential race — said he thinks the nomination should be decided on Tuesday, no matter what.
"You know, the concern that I have is the bickering that took place between those two very fine senators is going on too long," Richardson said on the CBS program "Face the Nation."
"D-Day is Tuesday," he continued. "We have to have a positive campaign after Tuesday. Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be, in my judgment, the nominee."
The Clinton campaign is calling superdelegates who have already voiced support for Clinton (what they call "automatic" delegates) to try and convince them to stay with the senator, no matter what happens on Tuesday.
And they continue to try and persuade uncommitted superdelegates to join the Clinton ranks.
But increasingly, said the advisor, the first thing out of their mouths is, "We’re waiting to see what happens."
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Richardson is not stupid he would be a ex governer if he did that. Even Kinky Friedman is not that stupid.
Posted by: TexasRules | March 2, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
LeftHillaryForObama welcome to the Barack-o-wagon. Two more days and all your friends will be sitting on the wagon with you.
Posted by: TexasRules | March 2, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
If Hillary is this strong, brilliant woman ,as her supporters contend, how on earth could she have stuck with Bill as he cheated on her over & over again??? Maybe, just maybe ,she stuck with him to propel her political career…….Sounds like a pathetic story to me…..
Posted by: Todd | March 2, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Seems interesting that some people think Clinton went negative first. From what I saw, Obama went negative first… go all the way back to the debate where he attacked her for doing her job as an attorney for Walmart. She attacked back and then they both backed off. Then he attacked her on a core democratic principle and she defended herself. When a candidate goes negative, the other has no choice but to defend themselves. Then even with all the negativity, she rescued him and even his own camp acknowledged she rescued him from making a major blunder with Farahkan. Seems to me, the facts are clear – he went negative and launched a campaign that was divisive for the party.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Of course Hillary is worried. Even if she wins 60/40 over obama; she will still be behind in delegates. Hillary is definitely a better choice but at this point; everyone has there minds made up. The Rezko trail that starts monday could drop a bomb shell about baracks dealings with rezko. Obamaites will not care even if it is proven conclusively that barack is a criminal. They will be loyal even if it destroys our country and our military. I think everyone has there minds made up no matter what happens. God help our country.
Posted by: Everybody Hurts | March 2, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
If marital issues were part of presidential performance, JFK and many other presidents who were womanizers would not have the approval of voters. If it was an issue with most voters, Bill Clinton would not have left office with 60% approval rating and still have 80% approval with Dems. Michelle Obama is not holding true to Dr. King’s principles in her husband’s campaign by bringing up race before Iowa with her “Black America will wake up” statement. Does that mean you think Obama makes a bad choice to stay married to a woman that does not share his views? Her choice to honor her vows is a personal one that has not affected her popularity as a Senator and her performance. What she has shown is great strength and courage under fire. So let’s stop with the sexist remarks please.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
It seems like the Obama supporters are busily crowing and doing the victory chicken dance. If you I’d keep running until you’ve crossed the finish line, or you might just get passed by.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 2, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
The rezko trail of crumbs will implicate democrats and republicans alike. Coruption has run rampit in Illinois. Obama will be implicated in multiple facets. How many dealings are obama and rezko connected. How many rezko partners have contributed to obama that he kept the money. How many business dealings in where rezko received contracts where obama played a part. Illinois politics have been playing loose with the rules too long. If obama takes out hillary and then we learn all the dirt on obama; ;it will be too late. Republicans will take the white house again. Vote Hillary.
Posted by: Everybody Hurts | March 2, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Hillary will win big tuesday. if it wasnt for the republicans who are freaking out about Hillary being their contender, the win will be even bigger.
But even if it is close on tuesday, Hillary’s campaign will go on!!!
$35 million in february will turn into $60 in march. Plus every one is already getting sick of the preacher fellow. He will be a footnote in the REZKO TRIAL, and that is all folks.
Posted by: TheGoodJuan | March 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Umm… it is most certainly true that if Obama had lost as many contests as Hillary at this point- he’s be OUT OF THE RACE.
Hillary Clinton is not disliked by media and many Americans for NO REASON- there are legitimate reasons.
If I could let all you others vote George Bush in office twice and live with that for 8 years- ( I didn’t vote for him, so I carry no burden of his idiocy) I can certainly handle 4 years of the “unvetted” new guy.
I’d take anything new at this point. I don’t need money, I don’t need fame- I need new thoughts and new ways.
Hillary is a smart intellignet woman, but I DO NOT TRUST HER. And by all means, I am deserved that right…
I am an Independent, have been for double digit years, and I am a female- I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY. NOT THIS TIME.
Posted by: DUH | March 2, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
so, clinton is asking the super delegates to vote for her “no matter what happens” on tuesday?
so much for the “democratic” process within the democratic party, huh?
Posted by: davidfrat4 | March 2, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
So many ignorant Democrats! They are so jealous and spoiled that they claim they will vote outside their party if their candidate doesn’t win the nomination. It’s ‘their way or the highway’. How stupid and selfish! You would rather ruin the Democrat Party’s chance to make this country great again if you don’t get your way. So you would rather take 4 more years of Cheneys henchmen dictating your lives, because you didn’t get your way? So you want your children going off to a foreign war to be killed or maimed because you didn’t get your way? You really want Big Oil and Haliburton raping you of every last cent you have because you didn’t get your way? So you really want to lose more freedoms and liberties here at home until we become a police state, just because you didn’t get your way?? Think about it, only a simple minded child cries for not getting their way. Is that what the Democrat Party has turned into, a bunch of simple-minded cry babies? Wake up people, times are getting desperate, and we Democrats have to stick together against this right-wing tyranny! If we don’t, you and I know what will happen. Let’s stick together and win, instead of dividing over jealousy, and let’s crush this corporate takeover. Either one of these candidates will be a damn sight better than what we have now, and certainly better than any Republican!
Posted by: steve | March 2, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
It is soon to be over for HRC.
Our country will be rid of the everpresent stink known as Clintonism.
In its place, two men of character will battle it out (above board) to be President.
Let’s hope Hillary has one shred of decency left in her so that she can withdraw with grace.
Posted by: Easy | March 2, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Again, there are all these people going after Obama about Rezko…have you forgotten the photo of the Clintons with Rezko at a fundraiser? If they dig deep into Rezko’s ties with politicians, they’re going to find those links to the Clintons that the photograph hints at, and then Hillary’s going to have egg on her face. It’s bad enough that she was entangled with that Hsu character…
Posted by: PalatinePup | March 2, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
It really makes me sick how some people are smearing Obama with this crap about his religion, notsaying the pledge of allegance, etc. These are all lies being put out by those who can’t win a real debate on the issues. I’m not saying they are Hillary supporters necesarily (maybe they are cnservative Republicans trying to get Hillary as their preferred nominee?)
In any case, I hope voters will see past this crap and read both candidates websites and decide based on that.
In any case, we’ll all be United whoever holds the Dem flag high in November (Obama or Hillary) becuase the nation must wake up from this 8 year nightmare!!!
Posted by: UnifiedDEMs'08 | March 2, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
The Clintons have been through the meat grinder … There is nothing new we have not heard. Meanwhile Obama will not be able to withstand the Republican machine!
Go Girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Hassan | March 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
@Posted by: Jackie | Mar 2, 2008 8:22:20 PM:
I think you have taken some liberties with your recap of the 60 Minutes interview with Senator Clinton.
“You don’t believe that Senator Obama’s a Muslim?” Kroft asked Sen. Clinton.
“Of course not. I mean, that, you know, there is no basis for that. I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn’t any reason to doubt that,” she replied.
“You said you’d take Senator Obama at his word that he’s not…a Muslim. You don’t believe that he’s…,” Kroft said.
“No. No, there is nothing to base that on. As far as I know,” she said.
She is not waging the Muslim smear campaign. Even during the last debate when questioned about the photo posted on the Drudge Report, Senator Obama responded with “Well, first of all, I take Senator Clinton at her word that she knew nothing about the photo. So I think that’s something that we can set aside.”
If that response is good enough for him, then it should suffice for her as well. Let’s move on and talk about some real issues.
Posted by: LOM | March 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
How come everyone is saying that Sen Clinton should get out now in order not to divide the party but no one says that about Huckabee who has no chance of catching up to McCain, it seems like there is a double standard for women. The general election is not until November, a lot can happen between now and then. Women are getting tired of people teling them that a women who is smart and experience should bow down to make a man happy who’s less qualified. In this country men get paid more than women for the same job, it is an insult to women to tell Sen Clinton to back down before June. If Sen Obama can’t handle the heat than maybe he should get out the kitchen.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | March 2, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“Hillary” is a personality cult among women, just as “Oprah” or “Ellen” is.
Proof of that: in these blogs it is always the Hillary fans who write that they will vote for McCain instead of for Obama should Hillary have to bow out. I do not reading an Obama supporter saying that she or he would vote Republican if Obama had to leave the race.
Her fanclub apparently doesn’t care one bit about the Democratic agenda. Hillary herself btw would no doubt be furious about that; and not only because time and again (before the race became tight) she expressed her great admiration for Obama as a politician and a senator.
I just read a Hillary fan saying something about Obama’s “shady past”. That’s an incredibly dumb thing to say, if you are informed what this Rezko is and isn’t about; and it’s certainly a fairly naive statement for a supporter of the nominee would have been slaughtered in the Presidential election for her numerous wrongdoings in the Whitewater scandal. Do her fans know the details of that? I really wonder.
I’m a woman but not a “I LOVE YOU HILLARY, YOU’RE MY GIRLLLL!!” one. Yikes.
Posted by: Margot | March 2, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Richardson’s comments are a backdoor endorsement of Obama. It’s a shame to see another craven politician abandon people who have befriended him and probably helped him, ignore his constituents, and not listen to the wishes of his own people. I used to think he would make a great VP but not any more. Stay in Hillary. I don’t care if it brings the party crashing down. They continue to abandon their base and maybe it’s time we looked elsewhere.
Posted by: Tom in MA | March 2, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Hillary was perfect for SNL……….she’s a joke….
Posted by: Todd | March 2, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Who went negative first?
No it wasn’t the Walmart comment.
It started way back when Camp Clinton started that email about Obama’s being a muslim. That wasn’t the GOP folks that was Camp Clinton.
That’s where the negativity started. And long before the Walmart shot we have hubby making the cracks in So Carolina that so turned off the African American voters they moved in droves to Obama.
Before walmart we had the ‘fairy tale’ comments. Let’s keep the facts straight, it isn’t all that difficult.
Posted by: korey | March 2, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Obama is NOT and never has been the front runner in this race. He leads her by 100 delegates and she leads him by more Super Delegates. And that does not include her delegates from Florida and Michigan. Eleven states does not EQUAL 50 states. We all get a vote in America!
This front runner was spin from the media, Obama and Obama supporters. Hillary will WIN Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Wyoming, Pennsylvania and many other states, including Puerto Rico, that have not yet voted. And she will go on to WIN the Democratic nomination and rightfully so. She is the more qualified candidate.
General Election historical data clearly shows that she is the candidate that has the best chance at actually winning the Presidency.
Posted by: Texas Democrat | March 2, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
The letter to Bill Richardson was perfect. Thanks
Posted by: Edward Franco | March 2, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Given Obama’s mathemathically insurmountable delegate lead (Yes We Can!), Hillary’s best case scenario is to bow out gracefully. Period. In doing so, she may recapture some of the goodwill lost in the wake of her desperate, negative tactics. Otherwise, she’ll just show herself to be the self-absorbed, amoral, power-obsessed type her worst critics have always claimed she was. Does anyone really think she’s concerned about harming Obama’s chances for victory in the GE? Only to the extent that it would reflect poorly on her because you can bet that she’s already figuring an Obama loss will preserve her chances in 2012.
Posted by: KC | March 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
The bottom line is if she eeks out wins in OH, RI and TX, and even if she goes on and barely wins PA, Obama will still end up coming out of this stretch netting more delegates since a small margin basically splits the delegates. Furthermore, considering the remaining states – VT, NC, MS, SD, WY, MT, OR in which he has substantial leads – large enough leads where he’ll widen by 80 – 90 more delegates.
She can either stay in and hurt the party with Mark Penn’s negative trash or bow out gracefully.
Posted by: Jack | March 2, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
“Stay in Hillary. I don’t care if it brings the party crashing down.”
And there, in a nutshell, we have the problem with Hillary and her supporters.
Posted by: JdeMarco | March 2, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
If Hillary can’t gain in the Delegate count on Tuesday, and make it count for something, than I think it would be wise for her Campaign to reevaluate it’s continued presence in the race…
Posted by: Dingodude | March 2, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Nobama…
I have yet to see anything out of Camp Clinton that would make me want to vote for a dual presidency…yet.
Posted by: Dingodude | March 2, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
As a HC supporter I think she should drop out if she loses big in TX or if she loses both OH and TX even with a small margin. Other than that she should fight on. Why should states not vote yet be disallowed to have their say if the race is still competitive.
Posted by: esvida | March 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
THIS IS NOT OVER! The country will make itself be heard on tuesday through Texas and Ohio and Rhode Island and Vermont. Many people still have not voted yet. This is democracy at its best.
$35 million in February will turn into $60 in March. Hillary is our leader, she will lead us towards the retaking of our country.
Posted by: TheGoodJuan | March 2, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Obama is promising to change Washington politics if he becomes. He was Illinois senator for 12 years. He was part and parcle of Illinois politics which has gotten dirtier. Yes THE CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
Posted by: Satish | March 2, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Clinton should be winning hands down. After all, she’s been participating in presidential campaigns since she was 16 years old! And experience is all that matters! In fact, she *is* winning, all evidence to the contrary! (Um – that’s sarcasm.) Fact is, Clinton has *never* had the pledged delegate lead in this race, not for one single day. Obama started off in the lead in Iowa and kept it from then on. And, yes, superdelegates count – but not until they’ve voted.
I’m with Richardson. Clinton has been given every opportunity to prove that Obama’s initial surge was a fluke. It is time for the party to unite around the winner and start thinking about November.
Posted by: Gail | March 2, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
cba…
Yes they are. :-)
Posted by: Dingodude | March 2, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Without Hillary, strangely enough, Obama wouldn’t have the nomination. It was essential with his level of obscurity to run against a well-known, controversial opponent who starts out despised by 50% of the country – rational or not.
The blunders of the mighty Clinton machine contrasted to his steady, ground operation built on precinct captains – most of whom were new to politics – fueled a movement which refused to bow down to the Queen.
Posted by: Jack | March 2, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
The product HRC is inferior to Barak Obama.
Better product wins.
Hillary is sidekick of Bill.
Obama is original success.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
the emperor is without clothes.
Posted by: BKMC | March 2, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
A few weeks ago my friends and I were so excited about having the circus here in NC in May. We were hoping to play a part in bringing NC and the nomination for Hillary (who would have thought NC would matter?!). We aren’t Obama-haters. We like him and would vote for him. Both of them are so close on all the policies we care about, we don’t understand all the people here loving one and hating the other. It’s strange.
Anyway, now I just want it to be over. Hillary has gotten too crazy in the last week. I was riding with my one year old and three year old today and listening to NPR and they started playing a clip of one of her recent speeches. After a few seconds both of my kids just started yelling. It wasn’t until then that I realized how out of control Hillary’s gotten. “Shrill” is the word that comes to mind. Much more of this and she’ll lose my support.
Right now I think she’s trying to save face, and she can do that by winning in Ohio or Texas on Tuesday. If she doesn’t win a landslide of pledged delegates, though, she should just leave it at that. Obama’s not my first choice, but he’d be a great, historic nominee and president, and even though he wouldn’t live up to all the “hope” hype, I think he’d change Washington for the better.
Posted by: NC for HRC? | March 2, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Obama is promising to change Washington politics if he becomes. He was Illinois senator for 12 years. He was part and parcle of Illinois politics which has gotten dirtier. Yes THE CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
Posted by: Satish | Mar 2, 2008 9:12:14 PM
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Yeah anyway, what did he do in the Illinois except vote present? He had the opportunity to do alot of good so why didn’t he?
Posted by: J | March 2, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I like Hillary but if she does not win big on Tuesday, she should drop out.
Posted by: Marilyn | March 2, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Go Hillary! I early voted for Hillary and will caucus for her on Tuesday. I think the dementedrats need a fighter right now. Hillary should fight on: fight for every vote in every state; fight the state of Texas in court; fight on the convention floor; initiate a credentials fight; fight for delegates from Michigan and Florida. Hire more lawyers! Please Hillary. keep this thing going as long as you possibly can.
McCain ’08
Posted by: Laughing Republican | March 2, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
We all remember Clinton and NAFTA! A million jobs went overseas. Now Hillary is asking the families that lost jobs to Vote for her? Why is it that we only see Hillary in Ohio and Texas during election Time?
Obama will work with all Americans to end the grid lock in Washington! Which will mean jobs not only in Ohio and Texas but across the country!
Posted by: tongassberry | March 2, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
LOM…Clinton’s campaign did start the false email about Obama’s religion. It was omeone from her campaign in IA. The person was eventually fired but the damage was done (and continues). Hillary should have denounced and rejected the false email. She didn’t. She just plays the victim. She is a disgrace to women.
Posted by: Janet from NH | March 2, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
tongassberry,
Probably because she is the Senator from NY and not Ohio and Texas. Just a thought.
My thoughts on voting for Barack Obama:
“NO I CAN’T”.
Posted by: J | March 2, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Laughing Repub, he who laughs last laughs loudest.
Posted by: Jack | March 2, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I am not a democrat. I will vote for Obama if he is in the general election. If he is not on the ballot – I will write him in. I am the independent/Republican voter that democrats are scared that I am voting in the primary just to nominate Obama and then vote McCain. Rest assured – that is not the case. He has built an organization that is fueled from the ground up – not the other way around (fundraising is a prime example of this – he has a lot more little donors compared to Hillary’s bigger donors) – may this be the politics of the future. Power to the people.
Posted by: Nicole | March 2, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
DC Voter…Hillary’s campaign is responsible for the false email about Obama that came out before IA. Also, she told people during speeches in IA that he wasn’t pro-choice. She sent out false flyers to NH. I’m from NH and have been watching this campaign for over a year. Hillary went negative “From Day One”.
Posted by: Janet from NH | March 2, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Apparently B. Richardson does not believe in all states being able to participate in the primary process. So much for their voting rights. I say let every state and every vote be heard. That is suppose to be the American way. Now where was that great letter we all need to write to Richardson? Found it. Thanks.
Posted by: Pati | March 2, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Does anyone have a fork?
Posted by: geddesman | March 2, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Hillary is going to win both Ohio and Texas and Richardson will back Hillary. Obama is nothing but a fairy tale. The democrats are not stupid to give the keys of white house to John McCain. There is no way Obama can defeat McCain. He just don’t get it.
Posted by: John Prescot | March 2, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
It is very disgusting to read big posts posted above as if writer wants to slow us down. The contents of these long posts are poor in comprehension–somewhat school dropouts writing.
Furthermore,V the NEGATIE STUFF on Obama BACKFIRES. Big time.
Once bitten twice shy–Wisconsin is a lesson of what results when Clinton went NEGATIVE.
We love Obama.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I just want to say that I find it disgraceful the hatchet job people are trying to do on Obama. The man is trying to change this country and move it away from fear base politics and fear in general and what does his detractors do? They compile a bunch of BS and then peddle it as being fact to scare the country. This is Karl Rowe’s tactics that won Bush the white House and cost this country nearly 4,000 fine young men and women lives and injured 25,000. Why, Fear!
When Obama is President, Americans will get their country back and we will stopped being lied to, threaten, fleeced, and treated like we are ignorant. We will be given a reason to hope, a reason to believe and a reason to get involved with our government once again.
I think every American, if they told the truth from their hearts, knows that Obama is right on the money with what he has pointed out about what has been going on in this country. We need change in Washington, its time to put Obama in the White House and straighten out this country for our children and grandchildren.
America needs to make sense once again in our politics and not select a candidate because the opposing party wants you to fear his last name. You want a name to fear? Try Bush, Rowe, H Clinton, B Clinton, J McCain, these are the people that have help run this country into the ground with a trillion dollar deficit, buddy, buddy spending, war, disrespect of the oval office and country, lying, and simply bad management. If we go back to that kind of politics then we are stupid (my definition of stupid is knowing better, but doing it anyway) Wake up America, this man could not possibly be worst then what we have had. The upside is, if he runs the country like his congressional seat and his champagne then we will most certainly be better off.
Posted by: Roderick Paris | March 2, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
DC Voter, Michelle Obama made an attack in August about not keeping her (Hillary’s) house in order. This was one of the 1st personal attacks from the Obama camp. The first utterance that made me completely support Hillary. If Hillary is pressured to drop out I will write her in come the general. No exceptions. She is the one that the REAL Democrats want. We are the other half. Not that BO’s Republicans for McCain voters should count as the BO half. Anyway, I don’t see this as abandoning my 21 years of volunteering for the Democratic Party. The way I see it is the Party is abandoning US. My husband, who eventually came to Hillary’s side over Obama, did so because as he told me;”It’s beyond sexism (treatment of Hillary)it is so unjust that it’s agonizing. She is a hero to the Democrats and does not deserve this hatred these fools are lashing at her. I would think it would make any decent man see, face it and take her side since she’s obviously most qualified.” He’s a good guy!
Posted by: irma | March 2, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
They have every reason to be worried. While this is where Obama could deliver a knock out punch, this is not where Clinton can do a thing except breath life back into a near dead campaign. I’d say those stakes are very different and accurately reflect how the campaigns have been executed. Maybe you should have checked with Bill first on who we should support — the campaign selling fear or the campaign selling hope, eh Hillary?
Posted by: SE Croft | March 2, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
If the delegates from the March 4 states split 50-50, Obama will be close enough to the magic number for the superdelegates to put him over the top.
I predict it will start on March 5 when the black elected superdelegates endorse Obama en masse – no matter what.
If Hillary still threattens to go on, then the remaining uncommitted party leaders – Gore, Edwards, Richardson, Dean, Pelosi, Clyburn, and more – will all endorse Obama, and the remaining superdelegates will put an end to her campaign in days rather than weeks.
Hillary will be remembered for her failed attempt at being a spoiler. I don’t think there will be much of a political future for her after that.
Posted by: Drew Rocker | March 2, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Why would 60 minutes invite a candidate to defend their opponent then turn it into news when the candidate refused? What the hell? See, this is the kind of gang up junk that is incredibly irrational and people use it to act like; “See?” As if Hillary is doing something wrong. Why was she placed in that position? Man, our country hates women who are strong, smart leaders. They just do. Then they have the NERVE to act like the woman is the one with the problem……..
Posted by: Becky | March 2, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
I thought he was always right the first time…lol
Posted by: J | March 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
@Posted by: Janet from NH | Mar 2, 2008 9:24:16 PM:
If firing a staff member for making statements that reside outside of her morals/ethics isn’t a rejection and denunciation of the situation, then what is? And if you truly think that the Clinton campaign are initially responsible for the Muslim smear campaign against Senator Obama, then let me introduce you to some folks over in the GOP.
To say that Senator Clinton is a disgrace to women has to be about one of the saddest statements I’ve heard during this campaign and incredibly disappointing, especially from a woman. For her to be running for the highest position in the United States of America, she doesn’t deserve such a nonsensical comment.
Please be intelligent: Say you don’t like her policies, her style, her approach, her perseverance that many view as splitting the democratic party, her hair, her pants suit, her continued devotion to her husband despite his infidelity, her campaign strategy, her vote for authorizing the war in Iraq alongside 72 Senators, her whatever.
But please don’t say she’s a disgrace to women because that is just ridiculous. AMERICA should be proud to have both of these candidates running for president and we should be happy to have two amazing choices.
Denigrating the candidates only makes you (or anyone else doing it) look stupid.
Posted by: LOM | March 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
What is wrong with our society? Here we have a woman candidate who is the most qualified. She is well versed in International Affairs; knows the ins and outs of government, was part of the movement to end the greed and help people through social/domestic programs. Hillary is a fantastic mom and stateswoman and she is treated worse than the BO girl who sang half naked and didn’t vote. What is wrong with our country?
Posted by: Frances | March 2, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Prediction: Richardson will endorse Barack Obama on Wednesday — along with dozens of other superdelegates who will have finally realized this thing is over and its time to move on and focus on defeating the Republicans.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
The fact that Hillary stuck it out with a cheating husband does not count toward her vaunted “experience” and it does not entitle her to the nomination. In fact it makes me question her judgement and her values.
Posted by: Drew Rocker | March 2, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
There are somewhat credible rumors out there that the Obama campaign has internal polling showing significant leads in both TX and OH. Unless something unexpected happens, they expect a good night on Tuesday.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
AFTER TUESDAY if this nonsense continues and they battle themselves into a lost in November to McCain .
The DNC needs to not only kick hillary out the party, but SUE her tail.If the ROLES were reverse; They would have step in and tell Obama a long time ago ” Ok !.. Thats enough; you did a good job’ now its time to withdraw; and hillary will give you a gig in her cabinet.
Posted by: michael reid | March 2, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I am very curious to know these people who support for Obama that what is change? Does anyone has specific answer that how is he going to change? What is change? Is he alone can change this country? I don’t believe him that he could change. I agree Obama has good speaking but not really he has a good plan for the country. Hey guys vote for Hillary because this country need a person who take lead the country as soon as he or she enter to the White House. It will takes over year to learn all about the White House for Obama. Don’t let this country to make it safe. Obama doesn’t care about terrorist.
Dipesh
Posted by: Dipesh | March 2, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
My prediction:
Monday , a day before Texas and Ohio voting,
EDWARDS will ENDOSE
Barak Obama for PRESIDENT.
Vote Obama. We need a CHANGE.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
am very curious to know these people who support for Obama that what is change? Does anyone has specific answer that how is he going to change? What is change? Is he alone can change this country? I don’t believe him that he could change. I agree Obama has good speaking but not really he has a good plan for the country. Hey guys vote for Hillary because this country need a person who take lead the country as soon as he or she enter to the White House. It will takes over year to learn all about the White House for Obama. Our country is threaten by terrorist and we need people who cares and who is experienced one. Obama doesn’t care about terrorist.
Dipesh
Posted by: Dipesh | March 2, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Truly amazing times we live in. That we even have someone like Obama so close to the presidency. Who would have thought to see so many voters so clearly not interested in experience or substance. So many voters being lead around by their emotions and promises of a fairy tale future by a man they have projected all their hopes and wishes on. A man of very little gravitas and substance whose only real skill is that of a gifted orator who has managed to cleverly re-work old political themes, as old as ancient Rome, into something new and exciting. Make no mistake, there is nothing new in what he says, once stripped of its charisma and hype, but he is just so lucky to be at that right place and time to benefit. To benefit from eight years of angst. To benefit from a media tripping over itself in adoration of his arrival. To benefit from decades of white liberal guilt. To benefit from an uncritical and unrealistic electorate. Yes, we live in interesting times. To those blinded by this politician, it will be years into the future before your blinders will come off. Let us all truly hope that this impending mistake, this potential Obama presidency, can be avoided if enough open their eyes and see Obama and the world for what it is. Otherwise one can only hope America survives the years ahead, to hopefully emerge not less of a nation than before.
Posted by: Johnny D. | March 2, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
How come everyone is saying that Sen Clinton should get out now in order not to divide the party but no one says that about Huckabee who has no chance of catching up to McCain, it seems like there is a double standard for women. The general election is not until November, a lot can happen between now and then. Women are getting tired of people teling them that a women who is smart and experience should bow down to make a man happy who’s less qualified. In this country men get paid more than women for the same job, it is an insult to women to tell Sen Clinton to back down before June. If Sen Obama can’t handle the heat than maybe he should get out the kitchen.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | March 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Has anyone asked Mrs. BO about the Rezko deal. I take it her name is on the deed to the home. I’m hoping for a 60 Minutes type interview where they chase her down the street.
Posted by: Jim | March 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
How come everyone is saying that Sen Clinton should get out now in order not to divide the party but no one says that about Huckabee who has no chance of catching up to McCain, it seems like there is a double standard for women. The general election is not until November, a lot can happen between now and then. Women are getting tired of people teling them that a women who is smart and experience should bow down to make a man happy who’s less qualified. In this country men get paid more than women for the same job, it is an insult to women to tell Sen Clinton to back down before June. If Sen Obama can’t handle the heat than maybe he should get out the kitchen.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | March 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Hey Michael Reed; Why should the long term Democrats who have held this party together and represent half of the totals for candidate have to step aside for the other half? The half that has mostly just joined and are overwhelmingly Independents? Why don’t you all find YOUR own party? Technically, Hillary is the actual DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINEE. That is why we will WRITE HER IN IN THE GENERAL if it comes to that.
Posted by: Frances | March 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
We need a fighter. Hillary is a fighter.
Chuck Wepner was a fighter too. He fought the heavyweight champion of the world for 15 rounds.
He got beaten to a pulp and…..
Lost.
We don’t a fighter. We need a winner.
Obama has won alot lately.
Posted by: Frankie | March 2, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Change has already occured. Record numbers of voters in every state. Record numbers of youth voters. Record numbers of Republicans voting in a Dem primary. Record number of donors and donations. This is just the beginning.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Frances, only 37% of Americans identify themselves as Democrats. Any candidate needs the support of Independents to win the White House. Obama can get that support. Hillary cannot get that support. End of story. And go ahead and write her in if you want — Obama will bring in 10 new voters to the political process for every single petulant second-wave feminist who goes down with Hillary’s sinking ship.
Posted by: julie | March 2, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Yes Johnny D – let’s hope the electorate can open their eyes and truly see the world for what it is – one in peace – with no fear of each other.
Posted by: Nicole | March 2, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Julie: Your numbers are off. According to recent Rassmussen poll, the number of Americans who consider themselves to be Democrats jumped to 41.5%, the highest total on record. Just 31.8% consider themselves to be Republicans. This does not bode well for the Repubs.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The number one thing I’ll take from this campaign is the realization that my party is not as smart as I once thought.
While I always knew that Republicans spoke to the lowest common denominator — the base fears, wedges to inflame a person’s bigotry and intolerance, and visibly running campaigns which delve into and nurture the worst instincts of voters – I was blind to the vast lack of foresight concerning the larger picture that exists in the Democratic party, which has been placed in the public eye by these Hillary supporters. I apologize for them, Indys and Repubs.
That said, I suspect a large percentage of her “supporters” are Repub posers stirring up trouble. Nevertheless, beyond the bickering, we’ve shown we have just enough Dems with sufficient foresight to make the essential change in the manner Washington operates, which only our party can force at this time.
Posted by: Jack | March 2, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
How nice of Gov. Richardson to decide that the race should be over before our state has a chance to vote. I wonder if HIS state had not voted if he would feel the same. I respect Huckabee for staying in the Rep race even though people say he should get out.
Posted by: jackie | March 2, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Thanks to the Dallas Newspaper…the Clinton people will not be able to strong arm the
Texas Obama people…like they did in Nevada.
Posted by: JB | March 2, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
In Bill Clinton’s own words:
“One of Clinton’s laws of politics is this: If one candidate’s trying to scare you, and the other one’s trying to get you to think; if one candidate’s appealing to your fears, and the other one’s appealing to your hopes; you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope,” – Bill Clinton 2004
Why did he endorse Barack Obama – EVEN BEFORE HE (OBAMA) BECAME A CANDIDATE?
Posted by: Midwesterner | March 2, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Can someone explain Hillary’s experience for me? Obama has more experience as an elected official. Can someone explain so that I can decide. I can not find what is the experience that Hillary is touting about. Pls do not include 8 years as first lady
hillary supporters this is your chance to convince me that she indeed has more meaningful experience
Posted by: sunny | March 2, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Clinton and Obama’s chief fund-raisers are from the same family of billionaires – The Pritzkers’ of Chicago. WHAT A SHAM….
Posted by: JOE | March 2, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
It takes far more strength to forgive. Life is not exact. I’m constantly amazed at those who think they know better for someone else. Chances are their own lives are a mess and cannot live themselves so they choose to judge others and have little empathy or joy in their own life.
Posted by: Trustmiracles | March 2, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
The Clinton campaign is in total disarray. They are finger pointing and playing the blame game. Many staffers are getting demoralized by all the losses and negative direction of the campaign. It does look like Tuesday may the end and hopefully put them out of their misery.
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
LETS GET REAL!!!
IF AMERICANS WANTED HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT THEN WHY SHE LOST 11 STATES IN A ROW..ARE WE PLAYNG DUMM!! ITS CLEAR AMERICANS DONT WANT THE STATUS QUO!! HILLARY REPRESENTS THE OLD, THE PASS…SHE IS WHATS WRONG WITH THIS NATION. WE AMERICANS ARE REJECTING THE CLINTONS. IM A WHITE MALE, MY MOM IS A WHITE FEMALE, MY PARENTS AND GRAND PARENTS ARE WHITE AND WE ARE SUPPORTING BARRACK OBAMA. WE ARE NOT STUPID PEOPLE!! BARACK HAS MORE THAN 20 YRS OF EXPERIENCE. HES ONLY 45 YRS OLD..MANY OF US WHO ARE 60 DONT HAVE THE WISDOM THIS MAN HAS. WE LIVE IN TOLEDO OHIO. I URGE ALL PEOPLE FROM OHIO AND TEXAS TO VOTE FOR BARACK. LETS END THE CLINTON AND BUSH DINASTYS…
Posted by: Ryan | March 2, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Between Gov Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton, there is no doubt in my mind and, perhaps in the minds of many others, who is the most experienced, both in leading and in governing. Here is a leader who is giving good counsel and Hillary should heed and quit gracefully if she doesn’t make it on Tuesday. If she defies and continues her selfish goal, she will go down in history as a woman in fury, in pursuit of her on selfish goal, who wrecked the Democratic Party and ensured another four years of a Republican White House.
Gov Richardson saw clearly the writings on the wall. A true leader is one who acknowledges the mood of the majority which dictates that it’s time for change and to pass the torch to a new generation with fresh ideas and new approach to both national and global issues. He therefore, bowed out of the race gracefully.
On the other hand, Hillary built her campaign on her inevitability. She took it for granted that, after Super Tuesday, it would be her coronation day! Well, the Americans thought otherwise. They recognised that she belonged to the same old guards who have brought the present mess — the declining economy, the tarnished image of the US abroad, etc.
When Hillary was leading by nearly 20 points in Texas and Ohio, she put on a brave face in the aftermath of 10 straight loss to Obama, and declared that the two states will be her firewall that will scorch the Obama-mania. Well, when that lead dwindled, she resorted to fear and smear campaign. And if this continues, there is only going to be one winner: John McCain. It is therefore time for the bigwigs in the Democratic Party to come together and put and end to this mad woman’s destructive pursuit of personal glory.
Posted by: John Santiago | March 2, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
So sick of Hillary and her divisiveness!
CAN’T WAIT FOR CHANGE!!
Obama/Edwards 08!!!!!
Posted by: Becki | March 2, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Get with the program…If your looking at them as genuine adversaries all is lost.
Posted by: JOE | March 2, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Well, here’s one change Obama is gonna give us:
No more dynasty presidents for a few years.
McCain = Military/Political Dynasty through his father.
Clinton = Political Dynasty through her father and husband.
Bush “W” = Political Dynasty through his father and grandfather
Heck, we might as well elect Jeb Bush for the next one.
I’m all in for Obama at this point. What about him could be as bad or unjust as this american elite nobility crap. Might as well just have a friggin king and be done with it.
Posted by: Greg | March 2, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
The Hillary campaign is so worried about losing on Tuesday they now claim that Obama must win big in all 4 states otherwise it shows his momentum has turned. LOL! What a bunch of charlatans!
Posted by: Bob, DC | March 2, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
In 2002, 23 senators had the courage and toughness Clinton lacked and voted against the Bush war in Iraq. In the fall of 2006, Clinton voted against a Pentagon budget amendment that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas. Obama voted for the amendment. Most of the victims of cluster bombs are women, children and the elderly. Her defeat will have little to do with gender, the myth of her being picked on by the media (sounds a lot like Nixon in that regard these days), her recent fear mongering, or even her perpetual misrepresentation of Obama’s positions on issues, and much to do with her Bush-lite approach to foreign affairs. Clinton simply lacks the ethics and values that Democrats hold close to their hearts, whereas Obama exemplifies them.
Posted by: Stan McCauley | March 2, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
The Obama camp tried to say their fundraiser was 50 million for February. Their fundraiser was 35 for January and 15 mill for February totaling 50 mill but it took two months to get it. I voted for many presidents in my time but there never a candidate that lied as much as Obama or had the slimy past like Obama has and his corrupt friends.
What we have running for president is a corrupt candidate that wants to make history as the first black president. Well, he will not be the first black president because he is Mulatto. He is not black because he is half white. And he is so desperate to become president he don’t know which way to turn. His campaigners want Hillary to step down. How stupid can those young punks be. Of course she will stay in the race, let him get out. His father wasn’t even an American citizen.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 2, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Clinton Leads Obama in Ohio, Even in Texas, Poll Says
Posted by: JJ | March 2, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Hillary will win the nomination if Obama wins in every state. When the Resko trial starts, the real facts, concerning Obama and the the muslim criminals, will be public. The DNC will drop Obama like a “hot rock”.
Posted by: leon | March 2, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Bob: You are so wrong in you opinion. The Obama is worried that’s why they want her to step down so Obama can get her voters. That will not happen because her voters will then vote McCain in for president. Get a grip and wake up. Do you think her voters would vote for Obama. If that’s what you think you are a big fool.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 2, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
its funny that someone here said that Hillary is the one to beat McCain. Are you palying dumm or what!!! The Nationals poll are saying tha Barack is the only one beating McCain by 8 points. Thats a fact. If Hillary runs against McCain..Then McCain wins by 7 points. Thats a fact.
The reason Hillary will have a hard time is she VOTED YES FOR THE IRAQ WAR..MCCAIN DID TOO!! UPS!! CANT USE THAT AGAIST MCCAIN….SHE VOTED FOR NAFTA..UPS!! CANT GET HIM THERE.. HILLARY IS NOT WELL LIKED BY REPUBLICANS..UPS!!! MCCAIN HAS HERE THERE. SO TELL ME WHAT PLATFORM SHE HAS TO WIN..ZERO!!!!! THATS THE REASON RUSH LIMBAH WANTS HER TO WIN…BECAUSE SHE WILL LOOSE BIG TIME. IF SHE HAD VOTE NO ON THE WAR..NOT CHAMPION NAFTA MAYBE A CHANCE. THE NATIONAL POLLS ARE NOT LYING..FOLKS THIS IS FACTUAL.
BARACK HAS THE ABILITY TO BRING ALL PATYS TOGETHER AND MOVE AN AGENDA FOWARD. BARACK SAID NO TO THE WAR FROM THE START. BARACK DID NOT CHAMPION NAFTA. IN ORDER TO WIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION YOU MUST CHIP AWAY REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS TO YOUR SIDE. BARACK HAS DONE THIS ALREADY. ASK ANYONE REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THE SAME…
Posted by: DEMOCRATS UNITED FOR BARACK | March 2, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I have been to Hillary’s and Obama’s campaign speech. Obama puts on a great show, lots of words, glitter, but no feeling. I believe some parts were from a Bush speech. Hillary’s speech was more specific, discussed solutions, seemed to care. She talked to some of us after the speech, she is real. Hillary made me feel comfortable about her being president. There are too many serious problems with Obama, as of late. I firmly believe Hillary is the right person for the job.
Posted by: martha | March 2, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
OBAMA looked pretty worried on that interview about REZKO today. He tries to pretend he’s all cool, but I’ve heard that he may be the one who has to drop out. Grab your anti-depressants O-cultists.
Posted by: JJ | March 2, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Obama has missed 96% of roll call in the U S Senate, the worst on record. This is a record to be proud of, at taxpayers expense. Obama, I guess with your attendance record, you wouldn’t be there to answer the phone at 3 am in the White House
Posted by: steve | March 2, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
After Tuesday’s primaries, the calls for Hillary to fold her tent will be overwhelming…………..
Posted by: Todd | March 2, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Satish: You are wrong. Obama was not an Illinois senator for 12 years, he’s going on four years in the senate and is still wet behind the ears. He gets all his information from Patrick the governor of Mass. that the people probably will not vote him in again. Obama will not be ready for day one because he has no capabilities to know where to start let alone no intelligence. All his speeches are copied from Patrick and I believe he was reading some of MLK. How would he run the country. And most of this dumb generation of fools want to vote him in office? McCain will wipe him out between Hillary’s voters and McCain’s voters. And that I would drink to.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | March 2, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Why has the vast majority of the U S military endorsed Hillary? I honor and respect the U S military.
Posted by: Charles G. | March 2, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Obama will invade Pakistan, Bush invaded Iraq, Hussein invaded Kuwait. This is the future, present and past of mental illness.
Posted by: miguel | March 2, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
I’m really starting to worry about the democratic party. At this point, Hillary has no chance of winning the presidency but she could destroy the democratic party. Realistically, the super delegates are almost certainly going to vote for the person winning in popular delegates. HRC is roughly 150 popular delegates behind. In order to make this up, she has to win by 25 point margins in OH, TX, and PA, and that’s assuming she manages to break even in the other states, which given their demographics and locations, seems very highly unlikely. Even if you assume that some super delegates are absolutely loyal to HRC and her current super delegate lead will remain, she still must win by 17 point margins in all three states.
Unfortunately, the democratic party will continue to split as Hillary’s supporters find reasons to hate Obama. That’s the way psychology works. We search for information to reinforce our own views and so long as Hillary remains in the race, her supporters will continue to find what they are searching for.
And on the off chance that she could convince the super delegates to overturn the popular delegates’ choice, that would simply destroy the party. Very few of Obama’s supporters would vote if that’s the way he lost.
Posted by: Brian | March 2, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Marianne,
As someone whose ancestors fought at Lexington and Concord… whose father and grandfathers and great-grandfathers all served this country… WHO CARES that his father wasn’t from this country. and “he is not black because he is half white” – who are you…oy.
I don’t know if you noticed … that’s not a tan.
Posted by: dave | March 2, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
You might have to eat those words, latest polls show Senator Clinton leading in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island. I would hold off on any CLINTON tent folding for at least another seven weeks. Senator Clinton will do whatever it takes to get the nomination, that’s the kind of change Obama isn’t ready for. Oh and a Florida Do-over primary plan is almost ready for implemetation.
Posted by: JJ | March 2, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Richardson has told her that unless she wins BOTH on Tuesday she needs to get out for the good of the party. I think the question that needs to be ask is why Clinton lost 11 in a row and why she even stayed after that? Lets talk about that..if Obama lost 3 they want to say he can’t win yet he beat her 11 in a ROW…anyone other than me notice the elephant hiding in the room that for some unknown reason no one wants to discuss???????
Bill Richardson is her friend and he said today, to the world, she needed to leave unless she wins both and if it happens? Then she still won’t have the numbers come convention time and she would have to steal the election from the American public.
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Posted by: Sam | March 2, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Brian all knowing. Shut up! People like you are the reason people like me do not want to support BO. Especially considering that BO has not won anything. It’s half and half. The REAL Democrats support HILLARY because she is much more knowlegeaqble. If voting for her means we are “psychologically” voting against him, please include yourself on that list of people we are voting against.
Posted by: irma | March 2, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Tom in MA;
Even you support Barack Hussein Obama with any false reason, if you are a good human being you must respect Hillary Clinton experience, knowledge and smartness. If you are belong to BHO cult than i urge to you to go to see Psychiatric so you can come out of that cult ASAP.
Common, who can’t speak with burrowed world. we need a doer not talker. BHO is a person who is able to deceive every one by being present. Do i pay my tax to some stupid senator who doen’s do his home work.
I can tell you BHO supporters are like cult.
Please vote Hillary Clinton if you haven’s voted yet.
Posted by: jmaya, iowa | March 2, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Dragging the Democratic Nomination out only risks losing the general election because of it. If the democrats are smart, they’ll consolidate behind the leading candidate (Obama) Tuesday.
Posted by: Doug | March 2, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Hey Democrats voting for Barack; this is how much smarter we are than you….We can spell DUMB!
Posted by: irma | March 2, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Obama has tried to postpone the Resko trial for monday, This will be the second time the trail has been postponed. The word is: Obama is the “unnamed politician” in the court brief. Also, Resko will name Barrack Hussein obama as an accomplice in his criminal activities. Obama be honorable, resign…
Posted by: Jose | March 2, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I have not taken on to Obama; really. I am liberal, progressive, intelligent and simly just don’t get it. I just don’t understand why this man is likeable? In the end, he may get this nomination, but there is something about him that by November 2008, we Democrats will be sorry. Another wasted chance on “dreams” instead of reality! Obama is not right at this moment, Hillary can do this and she is up to the plate. We will regret so much if Obama wins. The GOP, the conservative and the independents will bend right and we are out of the White House another 4 years.
Posted by: LCI | March 2, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Pretty much with the 13 contests left Ol Hills has to win each and every one at by at least a 58-42 margin.
Every loss ratchets up that margin number a bit higher, i.e., 65-35, 70-30, 85-15, 100-0, etc, for each and every one remaining races.
She toast unless she get a sweep on tuesday by big margins.
Wednesday is gonna by a time for cryin and more lying for those guys. But its Romney time, baby. Stick a fork in her, she’s done…..at the polls anyway.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 2, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Heck, Hillary was privy to the intelligence info and she didn’t even bother reading it…. she went right ahead to make a $1 Trillion dollar mistake costing countless lives. The fact is Obama is the only candidate to make the right call on Iraq.
Posted by: Doug | March 2, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Dear American’s from March 5th primary election, don’t fall in love with media’s lover boy.
Hillary has been mistreated by media so republican easily can beat democrat candidate in general election.
First, Most of the south state, Barack Hussein Obama won becasuse that was the strategy of Republican to defeat Hillary Clinton who they can’t beat in general election.
Second, BHO has gotten free ride from Media in primary election and they will dig enough dirt in general.
third 70% of white race population will not chose to rule by candidate belong to 18% black race.
Fourth, other minority will not vote BHO.
Democrat if you chose to lose this election than chose Barack Hussin Obama.
You do general math and
Posted by: Uma, mpls, MN | March 2, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Barack Obama has the intelligence and machinery to put together a successful White House bid. He is a man of substance in terms of policy (his record is available on his web site, and many other places people tend to look.) I don’t mind that he is a “great communicator.” That did well for the last presidential “great communicator,” despite his policies. We are looking a true leader, an American Mandela, if you will, who will bring this country, and many others, together.
This comes from a member of Obama’s most reliable demographic … the highly educated. That doesn’t make me smarter, or right. It just means that we look to the heart of the issues, and are not persuaded by Oprah or hype.
Posted by: malthusian77 | March 2, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Even if Hillary loses on Tuesday, I don’t think Obama supporters could rest easy. I am convinced that her campaign will mount some kind of a legal challenge. I wouldn’t put it past her.
Posted by: Voter | March 2, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Clonton’s camp: time for pushing emergency button. Bye bye!!!!
Posted by: Mark | March 2, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Oh yeah Becki, you sound like you are overflowing with unity; as long as it’s your way only! The other HALF isn’t? We are very united as we have been in the past and always behind our Democratic Nominees and that is why we will stand firmly, united behind Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: irma | March 2, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
All Hillary supporters
what is the experience she talks about?
pls elaborate pls do not include 8 years as first lady
this is ur chance
Posted by: sunny | March 2, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
JJ, sorry to say that obama is leading in texas…and has closed the gap in ohio…also I don’t really care about those polls to much since the poll for my state had hillary up by about 5% and Obama won 2/3 of the vote…same thing happened in wisconsin when polls showed that hillary was about even with obama…
I think obama will take texas by 10%, and will win in ohio by a slim margin
Posted by: melchg | March 2, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Let’s say Hillary wins all FOUR states tomorrow… she’d still have won only 4 out of the last 15 contests… not exactly a mandate, let alone a winning record.
Posted by: Let | March 2, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
“Voter”
Hillary has already lost 11 in a ROW!!!!
Bill Clinton has said if Hillary lose even ONE state on TUE , she is done.
If she wants to help Republicans win- may be McCain will make Secretary of Labor.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Inspector71, Yes, you definitely sound like the BO supporters we have gotten to know. Verbally abusive yet claim they are change and unity. Keep talkin’ your kind of “love”, it closely resembles hatred, and a culture that I will never want to support with my vote.
Posted by: irma | March 2, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
1) Recent articles show that Republicans have been voting for Obama to make sure HIllary isn’t on the ticket in November (ABC and NBC).
2) Hillary is currently leading among the popular vote cast to date (through Wisconsin) if you count Democrats. Throw in Ind and Rep and Obama is winning the popular vote.
3) Do we want people sabotaging our election???
I could go on and on. I keep saying this, but I work at a national laboratory and Obama does NOT have the experience or judgment (yet! give him time!) to take on this job – his recent comments about Al Q. in Iraq are evidence to this – he said IF they come to Iraq, he would think of invading…well they are there and he wants to leave! How much sense does this make?
Search your brains and figure out which one you would hire at your company if you saw both of their resumes ….
really, it has come down to an easy decision for me (it wasn’t at one time).
I’m supporting Hillary.
And also, check out Obama’s idea of raiding the NASA budget to pay for his many ideas…that’s great, and people compare him to JFK???
I’m sickened by it
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Irma
Hills can only ride her husbands coat tails and his 20 year political machine so far.
It’s about over…………unless there is some smoke filled room disenfranchisement that your gurl gotts planned 4 Denver ……. and I think she does.
Posted by: Inspector 71 | March 2, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
I think it is inappropriate for Richardson to say that the race should be over after March 4th to save the party. This is NOT the longest running primary in history, in fact many former primaries have gone on to the convention. Why should it be over after March 4th when there are only 100 or so delegates between them? When Obama was down by 100 there was no push for him to drop out. In my opinion neither candidate should ask that the other step down this early. What is the harm in a little competition? If whoever is the nominee can’t handle that, how is he/she going to go up against the GOP? Look to Mccain – Huckabee is still running and it doesn’t seem to upset his campaign.
As for the negative campaigning, I will have to say that this is complete BS. This primary has made a real effort not to go negative and I think they have succeeded for the most part. When a policy or idea presented by one of the candidates is challenged is it really correct to label it as a negative ad or campaign tactic?
Let’s let this race play out like it should. I, for one, would like a little more information and background on the candidates who are vying for the highest office in our country- why should that scare either of them?
Posted by: Andrea | March 2, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
When it comes to credentials for commander in chief, I’ll take sound judgment over attendance at dinner parties any day.
Posted by: Let's get real | March 2, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
I’ve been watching the race from Australia & have a question. Why is Hillary running on ‘experience’ when there are some huge failures from her ’2 for the price of 1′ time in the White House. Namely, failure to achieve her health insurance reforms, failure to compute that Bill was lying to her & others about the Lewinsky business, and failure of the administration to do anything to prevent the 9/11 catastrophe.
Posted by: Karyn | March 2, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
March 1, 2008 · Advocates of NASA’s plan to return to the moon are concerned that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has said he will raid NASA’s budget
Check this out at NPR.
It’s a little-known fact but one that cuts me deeply and should cut all of us…this is the future of our species and Obama will keep us behind Europe, Russia and China, where we are already falling short.
I’m a real astrophysicist btw, not some paid helper for Clinton….
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
As a wife Hillary should prevented Bill from saying under oath-”I had NO relationship with that woman” (girl-intern,Monica Levinsky). Bill has not apologized to us for the lie or to Monica whom he depraved.
Hillary is not fit for US Presidentship.
No more Clinton White House.
CHANGE.
Vote Obama.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
This is the times for woman to run America, Clinton is a very intilegence woman, there for and she is perfect for this position.
Go Girl go go go go
Posted by: Francisco Mau Leki | March 2, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Richardson should shut his mouth till tuesday night. He is a looser and he should wait
Posted by: tony | March 2, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
1) Recent articles show that Republicans have been voting for Obama to make sure HIllary isn’t on the ticket in November (ABC and NBC).
MANY articles are reporting that “phenomenon”…..that’s scary.. If Hillary should NOT win Texas, it will be ONLY – I repeat ONLY – because of Republicans crossing lines to vote for Obama in order to vote Hillary out! Don’t pay attention to what the biased Media is telling us: that Obama is more likely to beat McCain… Yeah right! God forbid he should get the nomination, we are screwed for 4 more years!
Posted by: DMK | March 2, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Mathematically, Obama cannot get 2025 without a sweep of 80% or more in all 4 states and a complete swing of all SD’s. Delegate apportioning will not allow either candidate to get 2025 from what I see. The DNC knows this of course and expects the voting to be completed through June. Hence, Howard Dean announced they will not allow either candidate to ask for the rules to be changed and will not change the rules for SD’s. They are there for a reason and it will not change. He also stated the DNC will entertain a request to seat the FL delegates if they opt to pay for another vote. It seems MI would probably have that option also. Of course this changes the minimum number of delegates needed to win the nomination. The convention is not until Aug and both pledged delegates and SD’s dont cast their official votes until then and can vote independently of the electorate. Anything can happen between now and then. Especially with some new questions rising about Obama. The polls have not been reliable and even CNN admitted their polls dont include the hispanic vote in TX. We will have to wait and see of course. Good luck watching the returns everyone!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
“Irma”
It was Hillary who is throwing “Kitchen Sink” and degrading Obama.
Obama keeps Presidential.
His voters are educated people.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
It’s rather sad that Clinton rather belies the promise of what a woman could bring to office of President; Let’s face it, Obama is far more open and inclusive than “my way or the highway” Clinton.
Posted by: Let's get real | March 2, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Just a few of the Flag Officers Endorsing Hillary Clinton for President and Commander-in-Chief:
General Wesley Clark
General John M. Shalikashvili
General Johnnie E. Wilson
Admiral William Owens
Lt. Gen. Joe Ballard
Lt. Gen. Robert Gard
Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy
Lt. Gen. Donald L. Kerrick
Lt. Gen. Frederick E. Vollrath
Vice Admiral Joseph A. Sestak
Major General Roger R. Blunt
Major General George A. Buskirk, Jr.
Major General Edward L. Correa, Jr.
Major General Paul D. Eaton
Major General Paul D. Monroe, Jr.
Major General Antonio M. Taguba
Rear Admiral Connie Mariano
Rear Admiral Alan M. Steinman
Rear Admiral David Stone
Brigadier General Michael Dunn
Brigadier General Belisario Flores
Brigadier General Evelyn “Pat” Foote
Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr
Brigadier General Virgil A. Richard
Brigadier General Preston Taylor
Brigadier General John M. Watkins, Jr.
Brigadier General Jack Yeager
Experience that will keep America safe.
VOTE HILLARY 08
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 2, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
DMK
If Hillary is running– EVERY Republican living or dead will show up to vote McCain, in Nov 2008. They hate HER very much.
Whereas, Obama is doing “Regan Democrat”
Independents like him.
They all love theie country.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
I don’t mean to sound dramatic, but if we “hire” another person with little qualifications and lots of rhetoric to be president, we are doomed, even if he is on “my side of the fence”. Truly. The more we hear of Obama, the more we realize he is exactly the same as Hillary – just a politician with lots of ambition. Yes I’m a fan of Hillary but we know she has short-comings. What scares me is that the Obama-fans do not acknowledge his! From Rezko to NAFTA to everything else.
It’s sheer folly to hire someone based on a love affair.
A commentator on NPR said it best: Hillary has been trying to go on an interview with the American people, Obama has been on a date. That’s why he is winning.
I hope we all give Obama the time and experience it will take for this position and hire Hillary. Yes she’s flawed, but so is he, and every SINGLE debate it is clear that she has a commanding knowledge that he is lacking. Could he have answered the question on Russia’s next president? No, he looked straight at Hillary when the question came and then basically said he agreed with everything she said.
Don’t let the Republicans sabotage our election!
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Sarah – yes that concerns me greatly as well. As a former NASA/JSC worker, I saw the impact of our budget being raided… the loss of lives twice. What he proposes is certainly not change for the better and is very much in line with the Rep agenda.
Obamites – please dont drink the koolaid LOL
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Clinton is Texas Toast plain and simple.She has run the worst campaign in history , she is running on her husbands experience , she can’t give a straight answer or tell the truth about anything. Plus her and Bill have a court date coming up they need to get ready for.
Posted by: James Brown | March 2, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
It amazes me that the female bloggers who join Hillary in complaining about gender bias in this campaign fail to see that Hillary is constantly playing the race and gender card. When you go a Hillary rally all you see are “Women for Hillary” signs…have you ever seen a “Blacks for Barack” sign? NO!! Has Barack ever held a “Father & Sons” rally the way Hillary has her “Mother & Daughter” rallies? NO!! Barack never whines that the media is treating him unfairly because of race as an excuse for why he’s being attacked…even though he is being viciously attacked by Hillary, McCain and Bush!!! It was the Clinton campaign that suggested Barack was a drug dealer…that dissed Dr. King while trying to dis Barack’s eloquence…that compared Barack to Jesse Jackson. He she has the nerves to cry foul because she is a woman.
How on earth can the most privileged woman on the face of the earth complain about gender bias. Hell, her husband was the President of the United States for christ’s sake!! If men are the enemy, she was sleeping with the enemy!!!
For sure…when a team starts to complain about the referees, they’re probably losing!!!
Posted by: davinci | March 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
They do say that how a candidate leads their campaign is insight into how they would be in office.
Posted by: Let's get real | March 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I really must respond to the idea that the democrats will hurt their chances of having a democratic president if they continue onward with the primaries…
This is completely ridiculous! What will hurt the party and lose the general election for the democrats will be rushing to select a nominee who has not been vetted by the media! Also, what will divide the party will be to not let this thing play out. Do you Obama supporters think that Clinton supporters will simply fall in line with you IF he were selected as the nominee? The Clinton supporters are at least smart enough to know that the party is divided now and will continue to be regardless of who gets the nominee. That is why she would at least consider a dream-ticket for the sake of the party. You can see Obama’s arrogance and ego when he dismisses this idea outright. How exactly does he plan to unite the party, let alone the country, if he is not able to see the bigger picture?
Posted by: Andrea | March 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Iger – the RFK side of the Kennedy’s support Clinton. This is not surprising considering it was his side that actually got some good things accomplished. Ted Kennedy, well he is quite a questionable character and the author of NCLB… nuff said. You might want to take the time to check the listings of endorsements before spouting off inaccuracies.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
OHIO and Rhode Island will choose the real candidate. Hillary is a fighter and a champion of civil rights. Obama is a “suit” put up by the republicans, and the youth have bought it.
Jack Nicholson, Sally Fields all are speaking loud and clear about Hillary.
Posted by: maria | March 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
There is no saving this party for Barrack. Everywhere I turn fellow Hillary supporters will vote for McCain if Obama is the Nominee. We care about our country!!!
Hillary and McCain are the only two candidates competant enough to run the country.
Posted by: Carol | March 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Starbuck:
Those Flag officer you mention are not SUPERDELEGATES.
One vote one person: Flag do not make them plural.
Big man & Superdelegate Senator Rockfeller said great things about Barak Obama in ENDORSING him for President 2008.
Dr.Howard Dean is the one just like Barak Obama to OPPOSE Iraq War–he is a SUPRDELEGATE and he WILL endorse OBAMA soon.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Here is the end: Obama will win the nomination, and he will lose the general to McCain. Republican will win again for another eight years.
Whom to blame? Obama. With his self-deceiving eloquence, he successfully divided the democratic party, and give GOP another chance.
Posted by: Janus | March 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Starbuck says -”Just a few of the Flag Officers Endorsing Hillary Clinton for President and Commander-in-Chief….blam, blah, blah…..:”
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Didn’t Jon Cary try the same thing? You Libs are just a gift that keeps giving. Just keep HRC in it so we can win it.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
ABCNEWS is the biggest joke. Why don’t you just endorse Obama and get it over with!
Clinton will NOT lose Texas and Ohio. The polls are hype like Obama. I have never seen a campaign run by the media before like this one. When she wins big on Tuesday she will have defeated the media. AND the dirty Obama republican style tactics like those flyers on NAFTA and Healthcare as well as calling the elderly and telling them NOT to vote in the caucus on Tuesday because they have already voted.
Posted by: Kurt | March 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Too bad Hillary did not have the confidence to run for the presidency w/o Bill. I think she could have done it on her own. Also, she needs to occasionally admit when she is wrong on a issue. She is like our current president. If she does not like how something is going, then she ignores it. For example, on the evening of the past few primaries, when she lost, she could not congratulate Obama. She should have class and congratulated Obama and thanked all those Americans who participated in the primaries or caucuses. I for one would have admired that type of behavior.
Posted by: reyes | March 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I say fine, let the superdelegates support whomever the Democrats in their district supported, and that would be Hillary Clinton (look at the recent articles – she WON the democratic vote to date!) Kennedy and Kerry (I used to live in MA, goodness help me, there’s a reason they call it taxachusetts and I regret supporting Kerry in ’04) would have to switch their support, as well as numerous others.
What people have failed to realize is that Barack is getting the Republican vote not just because some like him (as I’m sure they do) but to sabotage our election! Go read the articles people!
So yes, I’m all for our superdelegates supporting whomever the Democrats supported to date.
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I think if we’re considering former First Ladies as Presidential potential ….. maybe we should go back and have a second look at Betty Ford, Roslyn Carter or Barbara Bush. How about Nancy Reagan?
Posted by: dgfiit | March 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Ahmed…your right, repubs hate hillary…their not to keen about mccain but will be out in droves if she is the nominee
Posted by: melchg | March 2, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Maria:
Barak Obama is Harvard educated and a man of good temperament: Hillary’s Kitchen Sink does not unruffles him . He is Presidential.Hillary said “YES” to Mr.Bush for his war.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Rockefeller supported the war in Iraq until now. Opportunistic politicians come out of the woodwork during campaigns. LOL
Any of you who want to actually look at real numbers, go to slate’s website and play with their delegate calculator. You will see that neither candidate will likely get 2025 delegates no matter what. Even better, go to the unbiased vote smart website and look at the real facts – bios, voting records, campaign funding sources, accomplishments, etc. for all the candidates. Ignore the MSM bias and dont be a lemming!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 2, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Well, this democrat is seriously thinking about voting for McCain if Hillary wins the nomination – if I don’t, I fear we’ll lose both the House and the Senate in short order due to her divisive, polarizing politics. With Obama, the best and brightest of America, who are honest with the American people (regardless of party) are going to fill the House and Senate.
Posted by: Let's get real | March 2, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
I like the way the Obama supporters bellieve Hillary should just bow out without a fight. This entire race has been about the republicans helping to build up Obama by crossing party lines to vote against Hillary. Rush calls it the “stop Hillary express”. I have listened to pathetic women calling in to both Rush and Hannity asking them who they should vote for when they cross over to vote democratic. It seems they did such a good job of destroying Hillary they may need to start voting against Obama. The consensus however, is to continue to vote against Hillary because she is the bigger threat. The same republican strong arm tactics were used in the caucus states. Why is it that with the country so evenly divided the caucus states were such lopsided wins for Obama? I say fight to the bitter end Hillary, you have the support of the REAL democrats!
Posted by: Firefighter | March 2, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
I will NEVER vote for Obama if he continues his NASA rhetoric, I might as well get myself on the unemployment line if I do. And it’s not just about my job, it’s about the “soul” of our country – JFK got it, even Bush got it and Obama doesn’t? So yes, I will either write in Hillary’s name or vote for McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination.
And if I hear ONE MORE time that Obama was against the war from the beginning, I will scream. He said in 2004 that he didn’t know WHICH WAY he’d have voted had he been in the senate! Then he went on to say he just said this to support Kerry in ’04 since he voted for the war.
Do your research people!
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
sarah although that is true it will be to their disadvantage…obama will win, it also proves how much they hate hillary, better she loses now than for the dems to lose the ge
Posted by: melchg | March 2, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Janus Fund may go bankrupt, but, OBAMA will not lose to Republicans. Repulicans have beaten themselves by weakening US$$$$. in the world currency.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 2, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Kaufman wrote in the Post that, “Except for Clinton’s, none of the official campaign Web sites appears to mention NASA or human space exploration specifically.” That’s still the case, and it shouldn’t be. Clinton made a smart move when she used the fiftieth anniversary of the Sputnik satellite launch this fall to announce that she would end the Republican “war on science.” Among other things, the New York senator said that she supports continuing manned space exploration and, seemingly, the Constellation program.
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Irma
Colin Powell is a cool dude. But otherwise:
Seems that U may have been around HRC so long that victimization thing that is so near and dear to HER fans may have rubbed off on U.
Posted by: Inspector 71 | March 2, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
No melchg – read the comments by the former senator of PA (among others). He said Obama would be an easy one to roll over on national defense and security and would prefer to go against him. I’m sure a lot of them DO hate Hillary, but they are also admitting (on air! see the CNN interview!) that she is the tougher one to beat.
Yet another reason to vote for her…
Posted by: Sarah | March 2, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
firefighter I’m a real democrat too and i voted for obama…
hillary can stay in it til the end, but if obama wins in texas and ohio by any sort of decent margin he will have such a commanding lead in pledged delegates that even if florida and michigan vote again she will still be behind….
Posted by: melchg | March 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Guess what Irma. You are wrong about the hispanic vote not being counted. Every race and gender has been accounted for in the recent polls and it’s not looking good for Hillary. According to exit polls from early voting in Texas, hispanics have been overwhelmingly voting for Hillary 64% to 36% and african americans overwhelmingly vote for Obama 78%. The key is that usually the hispanics get out to vote more than african americans, BUT not this time. It is 50/50. This puts Obama winning in Texas if those same numbers turn out on Tuesday. Hillary is shaking in her Jimmy Choos!!!
This Texas girl will be PROUDLY VOTING FOR CHANGE!!!! No more Bush and Clintons in the White House. We are sick of the same old politics. It’s time for fresh start. YES WE CAN!!!!!!
Posted by: Jen in Texas | March 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
James Brown
I agree with you.
Hillary cannot run even her campaign leave alone US Govt.
They spent ONE MILLION US$$$$$$ for party after New Hamp., that Hillary had to pay her “own” 5 Million$$ to run this Campaign!!!
No wonder she is not releasing her Tax Returns before Ohio,Texas,VT,I.I. people can judge her.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
It is amazing how this Retzo thing comes up just before the primaries. Just another empty claim to win votes.
Posted by: Uretha | March 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Tariq: I am forty three and sure, as a black person I thought seriously about Obama over Hillary, but only because he was BLACK. Some of my friends and family are thinking that way and I find it diplorable now. The Obamas were the first to fling mudd. Long before South Carolina. That made me stand behind Hillary. See, to my generation, she does not deserve the mistreatment she has received from the black community. They turned against her and bad mouthed her in a way that made me feel incredibly ashamed. I am Puerto Rican and I felt a growning affinity with the Latino community when my people started verbally abusing the Latinos as well solely for supporting Hillary. There is just something wrong in voting for someone because of their color and turning toward hatred of the opponent who has a record of being good with us. Hillary is a lot more knowledgeable. We all know that and if you deny it you are just lying to make sense of your black vote for Barack. I increasingly became disenchanted with Obama’s possibility of being Prez when he tried to use sexist comments and coninuously lie or misrepresent facts/data. You know, there are a lot of people of a variety of race and colors that I would never vote for; Barack is one of them.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
I can prove Hillary didn’t have a clue what was going on in the white house with 1 word, Monica.
Her experience is the biggest fairy tale. Even Bill (who is jealous of her & trying to ruin her campaign) admitted it yesterday.
But don’t blame Obama for winning, Bill Clinton helped him all the way.
Posted by: Right on Day1 | March 3, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Just talk on living issues, open your eyes dear folks and look sharply…
We have Bush now and he doesn’t do much good we are heading towards crippy $4 a gallon at light speed.
Obama is being upheld by powerfull riches around him, who will rip their piece of pie one day…It’s not his money alone on the campaign you have to admit that.
It is not the guy to pull you out of threatening $6 a gallon or higher. Iger is quite right here really wake up.
Bill really proved to have made the country stronger even having potential at thinkg for some country debt eliminating. Hillary can do according to what we need from her today, and WILL have the people around to make things right, and not just single Bill.
Obama on the other hand is having around riches thinking of using the situation and getting even richer.
And who knows may be really our constitution will get deadly changed, very likely, very likely…
Posted by: John Fitzgerald | March 3, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Bill Clinton should have just straight out ran for the white house because his wife is just going to be his puppet.
Posted by: Uretha | March 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
sarah…your logic in ths matter is funny…independents will in the end decide who is pres…mccain has a history of attracting independents, obama is even better at that. the only ones who will be voting for hillary is the democratic base, she doesn’t appeal too much to independents….she’ll have no iraq arguement that will make a dent in mccain and her claim for experience will be obsolete…
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
DCVOTER
Michelle Obama did not go negative. She said for the first time in her life she felt proud of our country’s POLITICS.
As it was the first time an African American was winning so much.You misinterpret her just like the reporter with an axe to grind.
Michelle Obama is Princeton & Harvard educated. Comes from a middle class family.She goes to gym regularly.
We are proud of Michelle Obama.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 3, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Who said nobody object Huckabee remaining in the Race ?? A large chorus did so, but simply tired do do so as he continued to do so !! Contrary to Hillary, he is not damaging the winner !!
Posted by: TOM WITTMANN | March 3, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
The newly-released February Pew poll has head-to-head match-up questions that also appear to match up well with the above analyses — and are roughly similar in their internals to the Fox and L.A. Times polls previously discussed here. In these three polls, there is a consistent pattern of McCain doing better with Democrats against Obama than he would against Clinton. The new Pew poll sheds some light here:
One-in-five white Democrats (20%) say that they will vote for McCain over Obama, double the percentage who say they would switch sides in a Clinton-McCain matchup (10%). Roughly the same number of Democrats age 65 and older say they will vote for McCain if Obama is the party’s choice (22%). Obama also suffers more defections among lower income and less educated Democratic voters than does Clinton.
In addition, female Democrats look at the race differently depending on the matchup. While 93% of women in the party say they would vote for Clinton over McCain, just 79% say they would support Obama over McCain.
A quarter of Democrats (25%) who back Clinton for the nomination say they would favor McCain in a general election test against Obama.
Posted by: Sarah | March 3, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Gee, looking at the Democratic camp, it looks like McCain’s about to get a substantial number of their votes! I bet he’s hoping this drags on all the way to way to the convention.
Rather amazing given that the two democratic candidates’ platforms are almost identical.
Posted by: wow | March 3, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Call me a baby but I am thinking about my country ..about my future …I realize all politicians distort the truth ..but I really fear the damage Obama will cause if he gets the nomination…he is the biggest bs er of them all..he presents one image but checking into his past he talks one way and critizes others but he plays the same old politics..he accuses and claims he will not..he played the race card several times during the campaign ..Clinton’s never said racial comments…”Black” superdeletgates being encouraged to support him…according to ABC was going to sue Hillary supports who were running their own ads…yet he was doing the same…sexist comments several times during the campaign..questionable backers…the lsit is endless…if you really look..this is the worst of the candidates…
Posted by: dellee | March 3, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
For what I know Hillary does academically better than Bill does.
And she is just strong woman to stay with him even if for the sake of advancing her career, to pull us out of what we have now. Hillary never was like a puppet around Bill, he always gave her what she has to say because he can’t say he is much brighter then she is. They are both good at the stuff we need from them now! Allow the best money president we had to look at our financial trouble again, or you lose it all!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald | March 3, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
melchg: I’m not talking about Independents, I’m talking about Republicans. The article lumped the two of them together (Democrats went to Hillary, Democrats with Ind and Rep went to Obama) so I can’t extract one without the other. All I know is the research I’ve done and the Republicans admitting to doing this.
Posted by: Sarah | March 3, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Uretha, I have news for you….Hillary is smarter than BILL (sorry Bill, but you know it’s true. Luv ya.) Because of that, sure she’ll give him some responsibility and discuss matters with him, because she respects his intellect and ideas.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
dellee
you want live in the past.
OBAMA is our future come and join us.
Obama will win Texas, Ohio ,VT amd RI
You can judge from the local enthusisam. Youg people are ecited to vote for the 1st time. Snow,rain TS no one care–they WILL vote in mass.
We do NOT want DRAFT. War kills.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 3, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
irma
Hillary was fooled byBill. Thats what Monica,Genniffer and all other ladies are telling us.
Hillary can easily fooled by her hubby let alone the Russians.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 3, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
sarah i understand what you are saying…i know some repubs are voting for obama in the hopes to make hillary lose…however they are doing this for the most part because they won’t stand for a clinton to be elected…although this is pretty low of them to do so it shows their intense disdain for hillary…
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
G’night everyone…
I predict it will be a real nail-biter on Tuesday…
Posted by: Sarah | March 3, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I had enough of the Clintons. She may be smart (if she really were, she would not have attacked Obama the way she did, and expose her undesirable way), but she is NOT honest. “This is not about me, is about you”…..Yes, of course we believe so Hillary….I viewed old Bill with sympathy, but no more now. Hilary, you voted for the war, and showed how much of a vision you had on international affairs. I dread you be tmy Commander in Chief. You are seriously impairing the chances of a Democrat Party to regain the White House.
Posted by: Stan O | March 3, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
so saddened…i’ve heard republicans saying that they won’t vote mccain in the ge…remember many of them no longer support the war and their party is divided…many of them feel that a “shake up” is needed…I know that obama wouldn’t be their first choice but he ranks over hillary and mccain in their eyes
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Yeah, well; she knew he was girl crazy when she married him. Hillary made a commitment, “For better or worse.” As a good mother first, and a woman of her word; Hillary stuck to her agreement. In any case, he is a good father, he is smart and funny and actually a nice guy. The family seems happy. Hillary seems to have gotten over it, so maybe it would be healthy if you got over it too…
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
similar but personalities are differnt…Obama people are in for a big surprise….Latinos are really reaching for straws by voting for Obama…(voting for Obama dilutes the Latin vote) they refuse to support someone who has been in their corner for years…Obama will only be there until your votes have been counted…then it is adios….OBAMA never did anything to win your support..I am one Texas Latin who does not want uncertainity about a candidates capablity and empty promises and will show my loyalty with a proven candidate by voting for Hillary ….get real change is inevitable regardless of who wins…People forget that Bush’s platform was very much like Obama’s look what happened there and the empty promises he gave to Latins to get their vote…he said he would work between parties…he courted the Latin Vote only to suit his needs..
Posted by: dellee | March 3, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
irma, so right! and to all of you who attack hillary because of bill’s bad acts, and because she stayed with him – aren’t you the same people who idolize jfk and jackie? jfk got a lot more than bill, and jackie knew and stayed. same for rfk. same for mlk. they all did it, their wives knew, and their wives stayed. but you have them, and their wives, on pedestals but act like hillary is some kind of devil for doing the same thing. people’s personal lives and personal reasons for their personal decisions are their own business. and what bill did had nothing to do with the economy, national security, etc. so get over it.
to melchg, re repubs saying they won’t vote mccain. they say that now, while they’re still hoping for a more right-wing choice. but i’ve watched them do and say that for way too many years – and they’ll vote repub! we dems eat our young, but repubs don’t. that’s why there’s only been one dem elected in the past 30 years (and that was bill clinton, you may recall, who – like hillary – is a centrist dem. every time we nominate a far-left liberal dem, like obama, we go down in flames. and the followers never see it coming. makes you wonder about the quality of our educational system.)
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
So SADDD
Obama was Harvard Law President ELECT.
No idiot is admitted to Harvard.
You are plain jealous of this young man.
Posted by: Tariq Ahmed | March 3, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
im not a hillary fan, i voted for obama…but the monica thing has nothing to do with politics for people in general..its their personal lives…drop it..focus on the issues and on the future,not on something that didn’t affect us, move on or go watch entertainment tonight
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
dellee, you are so right about obama dumping the latinos the minute they vote for him. he even did it to the african-americans in louisiana – took their 90 percent or whatever votes, then wouldn’t go to the convention (forgot its name) they were having. hillary went even though they voted against her. obama wouldn’t go, even though they voted for him. why? some excuse, but reality is that he already got what he wanted from them so he didn’t want to waste any more time. and when tavis smiley called him on it, tavis got death threats. incredible!
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
All I can hear from Obama was “Yes we can Hope for Change”. Word is just a word. Remember that Bush used to say that he is a uniter not a divider. And bunch of idiot vote for him and guess what happen after he got elected?
If people want a true change they should vote for Hillary. That you will have a 100% change from a male to a female.
One thing for sure Clinton is already proven to be effective. And, I know for sure that Hillary will do a better job than Bill. What’s Obama ever done for us? Just talk.
Posted by: Alex Pilapandet | March 3, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
tariq ahmed, there is no such thing as harvard law president elect. i assume you mean he was the head of the harvard law review, which he was. i also did law review – getting the editor in chief job (or whatever they call it at harvard) is basically a popularity contest, combined with some arm twisting. just the sort of thing for someone like obama. btw, obama claims he was a constitutional law professor, which he was not. he was just a lecturer, which anyone who knows anything about law schools knows is a much, much, much lesser position than professor or even assistant professor. it’s just another example of how he lies and exaggerates his credentials.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
With the media and the likes of George Stephanoplos already determining Clinton has lost the nomination and thereby influencing potential votes is it any wonder our political system is in the mess it is. Have the media representatives forgotten the presidential race between Gore and Bush and their major faux pas in calling the results for Florida. Shut up and let the voters decide. America will never be able to get beyond a two party system where running for president is determined by how many millions you can raise and how much media coverage you can buy. We are all not cattle waiting to be led by the nose.
Posted by: Richard Natoli-Rombach | March 3, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
melch; Guess what? The evangelicals, who are a little mellower, prefer Hillary over Barack because of the Muslim perception. In fact, TBN practically endorsed her. Hillary is a woman of faith, the number one thing she credits for surviving the Bill incident. Yup. See, this is where you youngins are kind of screwing things up. The Democratic Party was pretty open, accepting and unified on certain parts of the Dem philosophy. The fact is; the party has long accepted open views and support on; minority and women’s rights; needs of the people; all sorts of social programs; homosexual rights and a wide range of religious views as well as hefty portion of atheists. Trip out….Yeah, we’re the ones you all want to change and treat as if we should go ahead and turn into that after death dust because you all are so much better with hope. Apparently, we were all part of a party that represents something evil, so evil that it has pushed and created programs that help to level the competition for those who need a boost. Creating a more varied class structure. Oh yeah, you were the ones everyone has been waiting for. How insulting! Yeah, I’ll NEVER vote BO.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
This is the real story. The American public is speaking. Since 2 days ago Obama has moved up another point. The lastest as of 3/1/08 the polls read: Gallup Poll daily tracking. Three-day rolling average. N=approx. 1,200 Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
.
Preference for Democratic Nominee:
Obama 50 —–Clinton 42
Posted by: Sam | March 3, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
so saddened i understand your point however i think mccain has lost most of his appeal to many, and think obama will take a bigger portion of independents (which accounts for about 40% of the vote in america) (note that is an estimate which i heard and won’t vouch for but do think its probably fairly accurate)
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Fox News is really hitting Obama hard too. Out of 7 articles on their web page for politics they have 6 pro Clinton, 1 against McCain and 5 asking some of the most ignorant questions of Obama that I have seen. Fox is suppose to report the news not give us their candidate in colors that don’t exist. Oh their poll? LOL was the only one that had Clinton and Obama in a dead heat at 44 each. All 7 other reporting polls did not. They are supporting Clinton backing off leaving the race and not doing more damage to the democratic party. Shows who she really cares about but those who remember her from the 90′s? We already knew and chose NOT to forget.
Posted by: Brian | March 3, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Hillary is all about Hillary. The rest is a smoke screen. She will say and do anything and everything to satisfy the hunger she has for raw power. Her experience in deviscive and hateful poletics has run its course. It is time for this nation of ours to come together and chart a new course and bring the status quo to its final end.
Posted by: Hailee | March 3, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
I agree Woman will never have a woman president…they critic women more harse then men..they make fun of her looks..expressions and allow the media to present a negative image of her…when she cried woman across the country woman made fun of her…if she is strong she is a cold B…woman seem to want a smooth speaking man who really did not make it clear how he was going to change things with empty promises …woman let the media dictate the image of Hillary not the strong..decisive..experienced candidiate she really is…but a cold B…and woman sucked this up..after all how many of y’all have meet with Hillary and gotten to know her as a person not e thpersona the media portrays…yet woman call her all sort of bad names..
Posted by: dellee | March 3, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
so saddened, obama didn’t attend the convention i know, but they were disappointed but said that the understood why he didn’t attend.
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
If Obama slides into the nomination:
Republicans that only voted for Obama just to set him up to be knocked out of the ball park for Mc Cain will stop. Their support from donations to votes will dry up. Republicans know Hillary has never lost to a republican.
EVERY HILLARY SUPPORTER WILL EITHER:
VOTE FOR NADER
VOTE FOR MC CAIN
STAY HOME
VERY, VERY, VERY FEW WOULD EVER EVEN CONSIDER VOTING FOR OBAMA
And Obama losses in a landslide to
Mc Cain.
All republicans knew from day one that Obama was the weakest of all the candidates:
There are two things that republicans will go to the polls in large numbers for. One is to vote against the most liberal DEM in the senate. Second is to vote against a DEM that supports votes over and over for partial birth abortion. Obama will never be president.
If you told republicans that Obama was a Reagan DEM they would laugh their heads off. And to a large majority of DEMS it is very insulting.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Obama will say and do anything to get into the WH.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
irma, loved your comment. it is amazing, isn’t it, how little people know about their own party? having been around awhile, i remember when men actually had serious discussions, in front of their dates, about whether they would “allow” their wives to work. to you young ones, this was in the 60s, not the dark ages, so it may very well happened to your mother, aunt, grandmother. was it repubs who led the way for women to be treated more equally? of course not. same for african-americans, gays, latinos, poor people, etc. and those of us in the 50+ age group were the ones who made it happen. yet the obamaites call us racists and uneducated and tell us we should just hurry up and die. sorry, not happening. and after they insult us, they tell us we should vote for their guy. also not happening!
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
I agree Woman will never have a woman president…they critic women more harse then men..they make fun of her looks..expressions and allow the media to present a negative image of her…when she cried woman across the country woman made fun of her…if she is strong she is a cold B…woman seem to want a smooth speaking man who really did not make it clear how he was going to change things with empty promises …woman let the media dictate the image of Hillary not the strong..decisive..experienced candidiate she really is…but a cold B…and woman sucked this up..after all how many of y’all have meet with Hillary and gotten to know her as a person not e thpersona the media portrays…yet woman call her all sort of bad names..
Posted by: dellee | March 3, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Exactly melchg; People are forgiving him anything. How far is he allowed to go without the scrutiny Hillary gets? Hillary is not an sinister evil person. I don’t believe you all know anything about her. You’re all holding on to old disproven things and personal stuff. You all have decided to buy into hating her in order to lift BO onto that unearned pedestal.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
so saddened…how old were you when all these transformations took place?
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Obama has no class and dignity. How many lies and stealing does Obama have to do to run for the WH? In his case a whole lot.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
And Hillary is the example of the American dream. The first woman president. A man is a man and a woman is a woman. And we have never had a woman president but nearly 50 men. That is not change. It is the same old, same old. Over 200 years of it.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
irma…i don’t think hillary is cruel or a joke…i support her and obama…but I like obamas stance on healthcare and feel he has a more can do thinking than hillary…
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
irma, same for you, i’ve enjoyed reading your posts for quite some time. it is fun, except when the crazies start saying we should die, of course. (maybe i’m a little more sensitive to that particular comment, since i’m on the grayer end of the scale?)
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Hillary is all about Hillary. The rest is a smoke screen. She will say and do anything and everything to satisfy the hunger she has for raw power. Her experience in deviscive and hateful poletics has run its course. It is time for this nation of ours to come together and chart a new course and bring the status quo to its final end.
Posted by: Hailee | March 3, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
so saddened..my point is that you have been putting younger voters opinions down and insert that we are young (to attribute ((at least to me)) that we don’t know any better, when your generation made some incredibly important desicions at an age close of that of what I am now. I do find it discouraging that with all your generation did for this country which this generation greatly admires that you would feel that we would be incapable of making rational decisions….
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Hopefully people will start coming back to their senses and stop supporting a guy just because he’s the latest gadget.
Hillary 2008!
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
“so saddened..my point is that you have been putting younger voters opinions down and insert that we are young (to attribute ((at least to me)) that we don’t know any better, when your generation made some incredibly important desicions at an age close of that of what I am now. I do find it discouraging that with all your generation did for this country which this generation greatly admires that you would feel that we would be incapable of making rational decisions….”
I think the younger voters’ decision to go for Obama is quite rational for their age. If I were in college, it would be completely irrational for me to go against the cool status quo. And in the college context, Obama has become the status quo. It doesn’t take guts to support him. In college nowadays, it takes guts to support Clinton or being a Republican.
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
melchg, i most certainly mean no disrespect to those young voters who are actually informed and make rational decisions, even if i do not agree with their decisions. however, the past couple of months of blogging have exposed me to hundreds of apparently young people who make statements revealing a complete lack of knowledge of history, current events, the basic workings of democracy, the most basic understanding of economic and foreign affairs, etc., just blind parroting of campaign slogans. sometimes i think it’s a jay leno jaywalking event. such individuals, particularly when so prevalent, do great harm to the potential for civil discourse among those of us who engage in rational thinking. i am pleased that you are among the thinkers.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
No, no so saddened; I am sensitive too. Sometimes the hatred and misunderstanding that goes on against us on these posts are surreal. This whole thing has been the most disturbing in my life and I’ve been pretty politically active too. You know, the Gore and Kerry losses were disturbing sure; but we did expect stuff like that from the “Witch Trial Republicans”. They were more bold in doing their manuevers, but not completely out of character. I couldn’t believe people in our party started going totally cannibalistic on Hillary, using Republican arguments. For them to join in on that, completely contradicted the Political “Change” Obama spoke of. I am just lost as to why people would pretend they don’t see it all. It’s weird in so many disturbing ways.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
P. yes I think that many younge voters can get caught up in hype..but there has been many debates and information all over all medias…most that do vote in my “younger” age group are in college or like me graduated and pay more attention to issues tan you give us credit for.
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Back in the sixties we used to say there is nothing more radicalising than being hit over the head by a policeman’s club. People with previously mild positions would suddenly harden. I would have thought some of my fellow oldies who were there would realize this and know that making inflammatory anti-Obama comments will only galvanize support for him. Clinton galvanizes enough contempt by herself.
Her supporters are only bringing out the young in greater numbers for Obama every time they insult them.
If you don’t believe in democracy, don’t be a democrat. If these young people you trash are old enough to die for their country, they are old enough to decide who should run it.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
so saddend and others I appreciate your dialogue and wish you good night! Whomever is the nominee, it can’t be worse than the “Decider” gwb
GO DEMS~~!!
Posted by: melchg | March 3, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Unfortunately Richard Natoli-Rombach, misandry is alive and well in America too. Don’t expect men to support your candidate as long as you keep insulting them or questioning their motivations. I want a woman president. I am willing to wait for the right one.
Posted by: Julia Lee | March 3, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
irma, i know what you mean. not too long ago, it was considered political heresy for members of the same party (either one) to attack each other in primary season, other than opposing candidates, of course, but even they were supposed to play nice and keep it civil. dems were supposed to attack repubs and vice versa, but not themselves. how things change.
melchg, saw your note to P., just wanted to comment that paying attention to issues is a good idea, but paying attention to media is generally not. i’d suggest watching the debates, then turning off the pundits, so they won’t tell you that you didn’t hear what you heard and didn’t see what you saw. i’d also suggest reading or watching speeches, testimony, bills, legislative history, etc., but not bothering with – and certainly not believing – what any media member tells you happened. sounds a little conspiracy theory maybe, but reality is that the media have their own agenda, some one way, some another, but none objective. just some cynical advice from a cynical old broad who’s seen it over and over again for way too long.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
After Tuesday’s election, HRC will soon drop out of the race. Senior Democratic officials will ask (or demand) that she do so, so we can concentrate on defeating John McCain in November. OBAMA 08
Posted by: David | March 3, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Goodnight Melchg….
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
I got news for you Irma those people going cannibalistic on Hillary using Republican arguments are really Republicans not Democrats. The fact the Republicans can vote in Democratic primaries is criminal. Where do you think the word Obamacan comes from?Basically these scum publicans are picking our candidate. How pathetic.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
When hardline feminists, of the sort I thought we’d left behind, call me a “Betty Crocker submissive woman” bullied by a man, because I do not like Hillary Clinton, I know EXACTLY what I am voting against in choosing Obama. For them it has ALWAYS been “my way or the highway”. We could always choose, as long as we chose what THEY thought was right for us.
Posted by: Dory Langston | March 3, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Okay, I appoint him. Go ahead Tavis, speak for me baby!
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Webster’s definition of an Obamacan-A Republican or conservative voting for Obama just to get Hillary out and then turning right around to jump ship like a rat to support that moron McCain. Any questions class?
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Irma: “It’s weird in so many disturbing ways.” –> I agree with you, completely. It is disturbing and sad, especially coming from people who share your views in a 95%.
MELCHG: I am not saying youngsters in general don’t pay attention to issues. They do. But let me mention three small things:
1) at a young age, you often prize style over substance. It is a natural thing to do when you are young. And Obama’s style is a knockout for you… he is young, articulate and successful, and the media just reinforces this image. It is way easier for you to identify yourself with him than with Hillary, who is an older woman whose detailed rhetoric might sound tiring and boring to most youngsters.
2) at your age, like at any other age, you rely heavily on cues to choose whom to vote. Who offer these ‘cues’? Your parents? No way; your boss? no way; your friends? Maybe? The media? Sure! and the hipper, the harder to avoid.
3) You tell me you are an informed voter, and I can certainly imagine so. But the way you process this information depends on your perspective. If you get informed AFTER you have decided you go for Obama, or you already like him very much, listening to the debate will most likely reinforce your views.
I am not an old guy… I am a 30 year old man and, in theory, I should be backing Obama. Yet I’ve seen manipulative charismatic campaigns in the past in my own country and other settings, and I’ve realized how disappointing they become afterwards. Given my short experience with candidates based on rhetoric and not backed with substantial experience, I can’t vote for Obama. I like the guy, he’s not bad, but he has to pay his dues. Spend another 6 years in the Senate, take prominent initiatives, or become a Governor, and then come back and I’ll be chanting ‘yes we can’.
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
MR, you are so right about it being pathetic that repubs are picking our candidate. i don’t know why we dems are so foolish as to hold all these open primaries/caucuses. don’t we understand that repubs voting in dem primaries may not have the best interests of dems at heart?
unfortunately, not all of the attacks are from repubs. this is the most polarized primary election i’ve ever seen. i think the combination of racial and gender politics, along with an extraordinary level of media enmity, even for media standards, have produced toxic conditions. and i’m very sad to say that dems have demonstrated growth toward acceptance of racial differences but not toward acceptance of gender differences.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
P. It’s a democracy.
Young people can die for their country. They may be called to do so. We won’t.
We consider them intelligent enough to vote for their leader. That’s why they are allowed to vote.
Live with it, change the democratic rules, or live in a dictatorship of Hillary.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Thank you MR, I know about the “Mischievious Republicans” but I never noticed the Obamacan. Whoa…..Thank you. Amazing, it’s like I finally see the picture from those three D posters. Wow. Well that’s bold. I am still learning and still being stunned.
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Obamafan, at least Hillary supporters know she’s a human being and not a demigod.
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
LOL you Obama supporters are in for a rude awakening when the Obamacans switch to McCain. Hook line and sinker is all I can say. I always knew the Democratic Party was a bunch of idiots but this is ridiculous. All this “Oh he brings people together” rhetoric is nothing but a myth. Wait till the conservative machine starts. It’s going to get ugly.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
I know exactly what Hillary is. And what Obama is. Unlike you, I do not consider having less charisma a selling point. Nor do I insult those who follow leaders who have it. It may provide you a measure of personal satisfaction to insult those who support Obama. It does not win ONE of them over to your side.
I am a lifelong Democrat. I’ve watched Hillary’s behavior as a senator, frankly, with horror. From her sliding stance on Palestine-Israeli issues, to her voting for military intervention in Iraq, even though she says she didn’t read the TITLE of the legislation she was voting on. Lawyers are supposed to read the small print. This one doesn’t even read the title?
I’ve had enough of dynasties.
Posted by: Obamafan | March 3, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
LOL you’re welcome Irma.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
It’s 3:00 AM, the phone rings and Hillary herars the news: Obama won….This will be her “red phone” test
Posted by: Nando | March 3, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
MR, the only way Hillary brings people together is against her.
And stop trying those old Republican fear tactics. They are ill-fitting on an alleged Democrat.
We Democrats WOULD be stupid if we fell for them.
I know who McCain is afraid of, and it is not Hillary.
Posted by: Obamafan | March 3, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Open primaries are a crime that’s why I’m not voting. I’m not going give the satisfaction of wasting my time so that a Republican can pick my candidate. And Obamafan I’m watching with horror the way you people are trashing the Clinton years with the greatest economy ever. Shame on you. You are a disgrace to the party.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Obamafan you need to leave the party as far as I’m concerned. You are no different than that scumbag Liebermann
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
“It may provide you a measure of personal satisfaction to insult those who support Obama. It does not win ONE of them over to your side.”
I was just following your tone, and I apologize if you took it personally. However, you and everybody has to be open enough to accept criticisms against your candidate. It’s not enough with responding “Hillary is this or that” or “McCain is this or that”. And, sadly enough, many Obama supporters today seem to believe that their candidate should be put beyond scrutiny.
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
“Wait till the conservative machine starts. It’s going to get ugly.”
Can’t be uglier than the Hillary machine.
Posted by: Obama Girl | March 3, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
shelgirl, i generally do not engage with those whose posts demonstrate no openness to rational thought. however, i will make this one comment (and will not further engage). you say that obama’s supporters are from the 80s to now and hillary’s supporters are from the 60s and 70s. assuming arguendo that you are correct, you might want to consider that your statement actually illustrates why your choice should be made in a more rational fashion than your comments have demonstrated, particularly your comments about kkk, fatwa, annihilation, etc. the reality is that your generation has much more to lose from a bad decision than those of of us from the “disenchanted past” as you so inelegantly put it, since we will likely be gone before you. our counsel, however, is based on decades of observation of the results of bad choices, and we offer it freely. i do hope you obtain help.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
shelgirl: I’m 30 years old, I don’t think Obama so far proves to represent the ‘optimistic future’ any better than his slogans suggest. In deeds, not in words, I just believe he is just not that big of a deal.
Obamafan: Do you really think Hillary is the only polarizing candidate? I am confident Obama will end up being a more polarizing figure than her. Sadly. He’s already on his way to becoming so.
Posted by: P. | March 3, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Despite her own recent statements, Hillary will absolutely not concede under any circumstances, even if she fails to win Texas and Ohio. She will stay in until the convention.
Why? Hillary has self-centered motives for glory and power. She doesnt care about harming the likely democratic nominee’s chances in the general election. She doesnt care about smearing a good man’s reputation with dirty and intentional distortions. And she doesnt care about risking and likely wasting the financial contributions of her supporters.
For Hillary, its all about Hillary. If she were elected president, it would remain being about HIllary first and foremost, and the American people second. This is not what America needs.
Posted by: Mike Denhof | March 3, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
LOL shelgirl you Obama supporters (many of you are Obamacans) represent the uninformed. LOL The 90′s isn’t the past you moron. The Clinton years represents the greatest economy ever and only a Republican would argue against that plain n and simple.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
Well said so saddened
Posted by: Edward Franco | March 3, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
So saddened, you crack me up! I love it!
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
ABOUT HEIILARY’S GENERALS
Are they the same military geniuses that advised Bill Clinton into Black Hawk Down & his many failed attempts to get Osama Bin Laden b/4 he blew up the WTC???
I am a black, female, democrat in NY and not a Republican but these were always VALID Republican questions!!
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
P. I am 50+ years old. No. The polarising force here is Hillary. As one of her “fans” said earlier, she will not quit even if it tears the party apart, and many of her fans do not want her to. Now THAT is polarising.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Reading these posts has certainly been a learning experience. Democrats over generalize about each other just like non Democrats do about Democrats. I am an Independent who has mostly voted for Democratic candidates or as I jokingly state, the lesser of two evils. I know who I favor but am not about to demonize the other candidate. Regardless of whoever wins, if they have any common sense they will ask the other to be their running mate and hopefully that person will accept. It would be the most formidable team any opposing party has ever confronted.
Posted by: Richard Natoli-Rombach | March 3, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
edward franco and irma, thank you so kindly. sometimes i just have to let it out. i’m sure you understand, as your posts have so eloquently shown.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Even the very FIRST on that list of “Hillary’s generals” was a lifelong Republican until a few years ago, who admits he voted for Reagan and Nixon, but then switched to Bill.
We do not know WHAT they will mark on their ballot.
Posted by: Obamafan | March 3, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Statistic:
Barack Obama missed 185 of 1098 votes (17%) since Jan 6, 2005
(Extremely Poor relative to peers)
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Shelgirl I got news for you 9/11 happened on your little village idiot Bush’s watch. You could have fooled me as far as you saying you’re Democrat. I sound exactly like a scum publican. Black Hawk happened because Bush #1 is the one that put the troops in Africa before he left office.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
MR, are you talking about that same Howard Dean who was CERTAIN to win the nomination because he had the superdelegates in his pocket?
LOL
Posted by: Obama Girl | March 3, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
Obamafan
I guess you missed Obama saying that he was going to put REP on his staff. So??
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
edward franco and irma, thank you so kindly. sometimes i just have to let it out. i’m sure you understand, as your posts have shown. (and edward, thanks for the links – have y’all checked out savagepolitics.com – some really good articles there).
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT…YES…HILLARY SAYS SHE IS A FIGHTER SO I AM SURE SHE EXPECTS YOU ALL TO FIGHT.
DON’T BE ASCARRRRED.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Thanks so saddened, will chk it out. Goodnight! My kid (5yrs) just told me to go to sleep. Oh well….
Posted by: irma | March 3, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Obama girl you sound really uninformed. Howard Dean was way ahead of in the polls until Kerry went negative.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
shelgirl
If Obama slides in he will cause millions upon millions of real DEMS to vote for anyone else but him.
So many people can’t stand that guy. Obama is not ready to be president and Hillary supporters see right thru him.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
starbuck1979, perhaps it would have been better if Hillary HAD missed the vote on the legislation ti invade of which she did not even read the title
Hillary Clinton has the lead in missed votes in the U.S. Senate so far this year. Clinton has missed 18 of 21 votes while Obama has missed 10 of 21 so far this year. Guess she has more important things than her day job on her mind.
Posted by: Obama Fan | March 3, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
goodnight all.
Posted by: so saddened | March 3, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
starbuck1979, thankfully there are more young people out there than there are post-menopausal gender feminists who want ANY woman in the White House at any cost. They’d vote for Condi if she was running.
Posted by: Dory Langston | March 3, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
You people are betting on the Rezko thing on Monday?
If Howard Dean and Richardson are talking let’s bring the party together and end this Tuesday, wouldn’t they know Rezko is a minor issue than what’s coming up on the Clinton’s in California? And the money she won’t return to this IP firm that has a record of women harassment?
Clinton supporters are in denial.
We got to get someone beside McCain handling the military and the nuclear weapons. He wants to bomb Iran and promises to go with the Mideastern militants to the gates of hell.
Wake up and get back to reality, people!
Posted by: JerryZ | March 3, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Heard of Clinton will run as an Independent or Green Party candidate if she can’t make it on Tues…..
Posted by: ddn | March 3, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
ARG POLL DONE IN TEXAS OVER SEVERAL DAYS:
OBAMA IS LOSING GROUND IN TEXAS
ARG 2/27-28/08 HILLARY 44 OBAMA 51
ARG 2/29-3/1/08 HILLARY 47 OBAMA 47
Where is your support going Obama? Hillary that is where. More and more voters are opening their eyes to your empty suit.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
All those Feminist planning to teach their little girls how the First Female President of teh U.S. had to first be married to a Male President and then run on his record claiming the 8years she “served as the wife…sorry..1st Lady. Be sure to explain she was not the only lady while your at it.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
“Hillary is polarizing because the media attacks her relentlessly.”
No, she’s polarising because she’ll kill the party rather than give up the will to power. She has lost eleven polls in a row. If Obama had, he should quite too.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
Obama votes to fund the war over and over and over again, not to end it.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
Obama Fan:
Yeah….he’ll change the world alright. He’ll lead us into WWIII, because of his over cockiness, incompetence, and ineptitude.
Posted by: Kevin - OR | March 3, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
Just remember, the media knows Hillary better than you do and ask yourself why they attack her.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
I think you have the comprehension problem Obama girl. Or is that you are just uninformed or just have memory lapses. When Dean was way ahead in the polls it had zero to do with super delegates you idiot. Kerry clearly went negative saying that he (Dean) had seeked help from doctors because of depression etc.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
listen b/4 i say good-night to all you lovely and animated political beast i would like to say just 1 last thing:
Hillary would never concede. She would make sure any Democrat (not just Obama) loses so she can run in 4 rather than 8 years. Don’t fool yourself and hold on to your hats it’s going to be a longgggggggggggggggggggggg and bumpyyyyyyyyy ride.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Good night all. Can’t wait until this time Wednesday.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Webwatcher: ty, good looking out.
Posted by: shelgirl | March 3, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Uhh slier fox she lost 11 irrelevant red states that won’t make a difference in the general election because those states will go to McCain. Don’t you find it odd that Obama hasn’t won a single large state? That’s why after this primary the democrats need to install the winner take all next time around. The only reason Obama is winning is because these democratic primaries are open primaries which republicans like you can vote in them. How pathetic
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Hillary says she is the qualified as commander in chief. What exactly is her experience in foreign policy? She definitely hasn’t been in war. And she voted for the Iraq war. So what exactly is this experience that she is claiming?
Posted by: Juliet | March 3, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
A month ago, Obama was behind in TX, OH, and RI by double digit margins. Obama has closed the gap significantly but he is still the underdog. Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island, we need your help!!! You guys have a significant role in electing our next president!! The Bush & Clinton have run this country for the last 2 decades. The only way for change is new leadership folks! Obama is the only candidate to lead our country in a new direction. He transcends race, age, and norms. He’s calm, poised, and level-headed and showed great judgement in the most significant issues in our decade. Not only does he have the integity, experience, and foresight but he has the ability to bridge differences and build coalitions. We’re not going to have another candidate like him in awhile and this is your chance to make a difference! OBAMA O8!
Posted by: San Francisco, California | March 3, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Uhh Juliet Obama is a rookie> He’s only been a US senator for 2 years verses Hillary’s 8 years. So what exactly is your point?
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Yes, MR, it’s official. Half the country now does not count for people who pretend to be Hillary fans. What interests me though is that “Edward Franco” has been pretty definitely outed here, and you are one of his biggest cheerleaders.
What does that tell us I wonder? Who are the people shilling the Republican sources here?
Whatever you’re selling, I ain’t buying. Particularly when you need closet Republican information sources to back it up.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
It tells us a lot. For one thing it tells us who you are instead of what you’re pretending to be. Maybe we should check out who set up some of your other claimed “democratic” sources.
It also tells us who you are scared of McCain having to compete against
Posted by: Web Watcher | March 3, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
MR,
Obama has 8 years of state legislation. Hillary has ZERO. And my point is that she has NO foreign policy experience that she claims. Seems to me she’s all speech.
Posted by: Juliet | March 3, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
Let’s face it Hilary’s hot air ballon is about to be deflated. Hilary Clinton is a flip-flop, a copycat of sorts, and most people can see through her flaws. The 35 years of experience she claims is just a smoke screen. Her husband “slick” Billy Clinton is in her shallow, remember.
Hilary brags and boasts about a lot the policies she is responsible for. In particular the “health care” issue. Well she and Billy had eight years to get that health care initiative done. Well too bad…it’s time to turn the page in history and look in a new direction… and Barack Obama is the one, to take on the challenge to get the job done. He is emotionally staple, honest and sincere about doing well for America, and most believe that he will. His messages are clearly for the people, with the people, and by the people, please get a grip.
Posted by: TONYTOO2 | March 3, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
I support Obama but dont hate Hillary!
What I am worried about is the Republican machine.
What will our nomimee Obama say to all the republican accusations that he is inexperienced and only have 3 years in the senate compare to old McCain’s experience.
I hope Obama will win the presidency or else we’ll have another republican administration.
Posted by: Juan Torres | March 3, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
I Totally relate to what P. posted. I too am a 30 year old male, for what the media plays at, i should “roll over, drink the kool aid and chant.” I WILL NOT. I have been a politically active democrat all my life. I have seen this party go through the good, the bad, the ugly and the downright absurd. This is BEYOND absurd, and it still proves that we, as democrats, have not learned our lessons from 2000, 2002, 2004,& 2006. Any whiff of “crossing sides” by republicans should be causing alarm bells and DEFCON 5 going off in the DNC. But, alas, it is not. After the GE is over and settled, the DNC will be AGAIN, scratching their heads and wondering “what went wrong?” Here are several fixes and examples of poor policy, administration and strategy on the democratic party’s side.
1. Allowing cross over voting in PRIMARIES, is not a good thing, especially when the opposition has outclassed you in the previous 2 GE’s by wide margins (ground support, canvassing, fundraising, media domination, overall strategy……) How are we as a party going to find a strong willing and able candidate to fight in the GE if we let the opposition team get a say in who we send up in the first place? They are obviously going to pick a weaker candidate to match up against their own. Would you let the the opposing team in a football match pick the quarterback they’d like to play against? HELL NO.
2. Super Delegates need to have the name “super” removed from their title. call them majority or bonus delegates. They remain the elected officials and elders in the party but they do not operate in rogue fashion. Here’s how they can be allocated. After the primary is over and the votes totaled and the district delegates awarded, based on individual district voting, the candidate with the popular vote statewide wins the the “majority or bonus” delegates. HOWEVER, free speech in this country still exists, just because you are a majority or bonus delegate that may be pledged to a candidate per se, does not mean that you cannot “endorse” another candidate, you are just prohibited from voting for that candidate on the convention floor. You are still able to try and influence others that have not yet voted in upcoming primaries or caucuses.
3. Set up a reasonable primary schedule. I think we can all agree that this one needs some more tweaking. It needs to be better “weighted”, more spaced out and logistically relevant. having candidates battling each other and ripping each other to shreds in historically “red” states is not a good idea. Neither is having states geographically opposites voting on the same day a totally smart move either. Its a waste of money for the traveling that it entails and i’m pretty sure its not healthy for the environment, for the candidates to be flying willy nilly between 2 states so far apart.
4. pick a format and stick with it. Caucusing works well for smaller, or less densely populated states, however,caucusing in major cities is a recipe for mob rule and that never works to anyone’s advantage in the end. (short term and/or long term). DO NOT COMBINE CAUCUSING AND PRIMARIES IN THE SAME STATE. 1 PERSON=1 VOTE.
It just looks bad. 100′s of people who show up to causcus in a precinct should not be able to practically outweigh that same precinct popular vote where thousands or tens of thousands have already voted their choice. “bundling” delegates is not legit. This opens the field for endless bickering that can sidetrack the real quest, a democratically controlled Whitehouse.
5. there needs to be an “unspoken” rule re-established. NO NAME CALLING, FALSE ACCUSATIONS, UNFOUNDED CLAIMS, MUD SLINGING OR OUTRAGEOUS NEGATIVITY IN “PURPLE” STATES!!!. When 2 or more candidates of the democratic party are in close contention for the nomination and agree on basic principles of the democratic platform, do not blow our chances of winning a purple state in the GE because of being short sighted and blowing minor differences out of proportion, or getting involved in a “dangerous” back and forth over an issue that does not play well for us or puts us in a difficult position in the fall. Purple states are “flirting” with us. They are not “in love” with us. You can get away with saying and doing things in a blue state that you shouldn’t dare do in a purple state. First impressions are key.
these are just some of my thoughts. this list can go on a lot longer i’m sure. history will tell.
Posted by: Jerry G, Palms, CA | March 3, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am
Just remember it is the Hillary folk here… desperate and unable to sleep.
If she only wins Ohio or Texas…. superdelegates could fly over to Obama in droves. Bill Richardson will as well as Edwards.
That’s ok… I have to put my child back to sleep.
Good night and good luck folks.
Posted by: HILLARY_IS_FINISHED | March 3, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
Edward, let me get his straight.
You say you are supporting Hillary, and yet the main site you are pointing us to is set up by a bunch of vested interests in the health care business who want to destroy Medicare to make more money for insurers.
Somehow it seems a little strange to be supporting these people when you know that health care is a major part of Hillary’s campaign.
Posted by: Things to make you go "Hmm" | March 3, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
Webster’s definition of an Obamacan> An uniformed Republican that will vote for Obama just to get Hillary out. We all know you scumbags will vote McCain in the general election.
You can’t fool me.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
James
Perhaps you forgot that this is a democracy and as such your name calling is unworthy of a US citizen. Would you be happier in another country?
Posted by: uscitizen64 | March 3, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
Hillary Clinton cannot possibly be a leader for our nation. She is disliked by vast amounts of our people(not just republicans–I am an independent). I will definately vote for Obama but in no way for Hillary because we all know she is a power mad individual and certainly no leader. She is very dangerous due to her ablility to do ugly things for Herself. Totally turned off to Clintons and for Obama
Posted by: rockychance | March 3, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Oops, Sorry,
T David, You make sound arguments, but are your conclusions valid? Senator Obama has been in the Senate for I think 2 years and for 1 year of it he has been exclusively running for the White House so he has been in the Senate really only for a year. Look at his voting record rather than the hype.
If Obama is elected president will he really be able to do anything? Will he have to get all his supporters to work again day after day writing letters (the congress does not do texting) to the congress to get his plans through the congress? Since he has said that all of Washington is wrong will he then be able to say that was just campaign rhetoric and that he really did not mean it so that they will vote for his plans?
You cannot call all of the Congresspeople and Senators the problem and then expect them to work with you it just will not happen. How will he then be a uniter and bridge builder? When you get negative and such with people then they will not have anything to do with you.
This is just a common sense thing.
Posted by: uscitizen64 | March 3, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
uscitizen64, we have seen how effective Hillary’s way of working with senators and congress people is on the issue of health care. Yes, she really did well there. We have seen Hillary bend with the wind.
I’ve worked in organizations where everyone took against the new broom who was coming in to change the way we were doing things. We hated him before he stepped through the door. And – guess what – he turned those organizations around.
You seem to believe this kind of change can’t happen. It can. I’ve experienced it.
Posted by: Silver Fox | March 3, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am
Rockychance you are an independent? Most independents are republican fence sitters. You are the very people that got this disgusting murderous tyrant we have in the white house right now. He is truly Lucifer himself. You have blood on you hands Rocky.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
It is strange that you do read a lot of Hillary supporters say they will vote for McCain if she is not the nominee. Could that be because there is not much difference between the two? after all Hillary did vote in favor of a lot of Bush’s policies.So there may be some truth to the saying a vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain!
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: merle7 | March 3, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
We all know that Obama talks a good game, but says little in substance. Just look at his track record in Illinois or in Washington. In Illinois, he voted “present” on more than 100 major legislations – even some of the ones he himself had introduced! In the past four years since he has been in Washington, his legislative accomplishments are almost non-existent.
Posted by: Edward Franco | March 3, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
I did not say that this cannot happen but you are talking about an organization not the US Congress and all the people that were elected by their districts and some of them are Republicans and Independents and Conservative Democrats and they are not going to just roll over for who ever is elected president. And if Obama is elected president there is no guarantee that he will get what he wants. He even sponsored bills and when it came to a vote he voted no on his own bills because he changed his mind. Let us suppose that all of his supporters get his plan through the congress and is sent to him to be signed will he then really sign it or veto it?
His past is the guide it is a 50/50. History has a way of repeating itself because nobody reads/listens to it.
I really do not have much of a say one way or the other about who becomes president.
Posted by: uscitizen64 | March 3, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
Hey merle by a ratio of 3 to 1 obama supporters will jump to McCain if Hillary wins the nomination. Those are just plain facts that you cannot dispute. Umm have you ever heard the term Obamacan?
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
Yeah, I’ve heard it. It was made up by Hillary supporters trying to scare people who support Obama.
Posted by: Not Taken In | March 3, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
Come on board Tx,Ohio,RI,Vermont lets make 15 in a row! vote for a winner, a true change agent, not the establishment; lets get ready for the general election and take Washington back for the people and the Dems! let put and end to a political dynasty and Republican leadership cast you vote for hope and change for a better Government!
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: merle7 | March 3, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
“You are truly delusional if you think there is going be change in Washington”
Spoken like a true Hillary supporter
If you can’t believe in change why support a female candidate in the first place?
Posted by: Obama Fan | March 3, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
To Mr the Obamacans will not vote for McCain not while garbage can Nader is on the ballot!
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: merle7 | March 3, 2008, 5:59 am 5:59 am
REPUBLICANS FEAR OBAMA HE REPRESENTS NEW AND FRESH IDEAS AND MCCAIN REPRESENTS OLD AND STALE IDEAS.LETS FACE IT WE LIVE IN A YOUTH ORIENTED SOCIETY, THEY KNOW McCAIN WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER AGAINST OBAMA.HILLARY BECAUSE OF HER HIGH NEGATIVES WON’T WIN AGAINST McCAIN IN THE FALL. THIS IS WHY THE REPUBLICANS WANT HER TO STAY IN THE RACE.
Posted by: merle7 | March 3, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
You Hillary fans are like flys on honey. Only, this honey ain’t so sweet as she appears. Oh, she’s sweet to you now, but once she gets what she wants or doesn’t want she’ll just say, see ya later. Sounds a little bit like the oldest profession in the world, doesn’t it? Now, there’s experience for you. How much did we hear from the Clintons the first time around after her health care reform collapsed? We didn’t hear much. But, now when she’s clawing for every vote she can get, she’ll tell you everything you want to hear and ‘ole’ Bill will turn on his charm to further sway your vote. History has a way of repeating itself and that’s what I’m worried about. At least with Obama we have a hope of following a new and different course.
Posted by: Paul | March 3, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
Good grief – its democrat against democrat in these postings – God help America. Hopefully either Obama or Clinton will concede after Tuesday for the good of the party
Posted by: Michael | March 3, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
Actually, if you look at the race between the Dems from an electoral perspective, some of what is being said here makes some sense.
For states that have held primaries/caucuses for both parties so far:
Red States in 2004 with higher Dem turnouts account for 44 electors.
18 Clinton, 26 Obama
Blue States in 2004 with higher Dem turnouts account for 135 electors.
98 Clinton, 37 Obama
Blue Battleground States in 2004 with Higher Dem turnouts account for 74 electors.
36 Clinton, 38 Obama
Red Battleground States in 2004 with Higher Dem turnouts account for 82 electors.
42 Clinton, 40 Obama
Electoral totals so far:
194 Clinton, 141 Obama
Only 270 are needed to win in November so the states coming up with high electoral impact will matter in terms of electability.
Red state gains are small but Obama has won more. What we dont know is whether these are the states where Reps may be cross over voting to rig the primaries or not.
Blue states are holding and clearly the core is supporting Clinton. Battleground states appear to be a dead heat showing. Overall, Clinton is clearly more electable so far.
It is easy to see that Obama is easier to beat in Nov if he cant get the Dem party united to gain the support of the Dem core voters.
So far, he has failed to prove he is a uniter since currently there is a split party. (This actually matches his voting record of being the most liberal Senator and not reaching across party lines.)
What he succeeded in doing was expanding the electorate and wooing some Independents/Reps but the party remains 50/50 meaning he does not attract enough core voters to make a difference.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
OBAMA IS A SUSPICIOUS CHARACTER WITH A GOOD STUMP SPEECH. UNDERNEATH THE WORDS THERE IS NO SUBSTANCE. PEOPLE ARE SUCKERS AND CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THIS AND SHOULD BE MADE AWARE HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN EMPTY SUIT. CLINTON IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LIAR. NEITHER CANDIDATE IS QUALIFIED OR CREDIBLE AND SHOULD BE IGNORED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE USA.
Posted by: TONI | March 3, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
if obama wins I am voting Mccain
Posted by: daddywontsellthefarm | March 3, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
This is not a contest of who likes who or who is cuter and more personable. WE are voting for the democratic nominee for President of the United States and that means who will do the best job. I don’t see that being Obama at this point.
Posted by: J | March 3, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
this lady just needs to stop, and go back to the rock she crawled out from under. She changes strategy more then most people change their underwear. Imagine the White House with someone who constantly changes their mind? You think this country looks bad now, wait until we get an indecisive president who blazes a new trail every month?
Posted by: Joe | March 3, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
I want the kind of “change” that will end the bitter division in this country. This division is nasty and evil. Just read any of these comments on any political subject. Doesn’t matter who it’s about, there is a level of hatred that I have never seen before. I just want it to end.
How can I continue to support Obama when he is the leading cause of so much hatred and division. It’s hard for me, but I can’t.
With Obama as President, I see the division getting worse. Is that the “change” I signed up for? No.
This isn’t about dems vs reps for me. This is about getting rid of the vile hatred. I will vote for Nader if Obama is the nominee.
Posted by: katie s | March 3, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
She has been consistent on all her proposals. She customizes her speeches to bring out each of them depending on the needs of the voters she is speaking to. That is not mixed messages – it is diversity for a diverse nation. What is important to one voter is not necessarily important to another when you have real solutions to discuss instead of empty rhetoric about change. Change will happen no matter who is elected because no incumbent is running. Even McCain knows change is needed and desired. His plans will be party line just like Clinton and Obama are party line. The difference is Senator Clinton has way more experience, accomplishments, awards, and respect around the world. As she stated, he has just not been around long enough. He would make a great VP leading the Senate to motivate them to work together and learning from Clinton how to be a real statesperson.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
That is “if” he is cleared of the questions arising regarding Rezko now. A unity ticket is what is needed to beat the Reps based on the electoral picture. If Obama is not cleared, Edwards might be a good veep.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I’d actually like to see a Clinton/Edwards ticket.
Posted by: J | March 3, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
why do the people ignore the NAFTA and the CTVnews report?
Obama is always saying one thing and doing another thing.
Hillary keep up! we will support you for ever. money and ads cannot buy all .
Posted by: joe | March 3, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
I like the ad concerning the phone ringing at two o’clock in the morning. It brought several things to mind. First of all, if the Clintons are back in the White House I fear that Monica Lewinski will answer the phone. She will not understand Russian and she will give the phone to Bill. Bill will call for Maggi to find Hilliary. Secondly, the last time the Clintons were in the White House, Hilliary with her violent temper was observed to pick up what ever she could her hands on and throw it at Bill. I fear that she may not be able to find the phone under the rubble or maybe the phone was what she threw the last time. I do not want the Clintons answering the phone in the White House ever again.
Posted by: swordchief | March 3, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Hillary Clinton is the only candidate with a VISION for the United States. Obama offers change and change for the sake of change is bad. That is what we have in the white house today. It is amazing that the present society fails to recognize the importance of vision to achieve results. Change could bring about a mess without vision.
Posted by: Voter | March 3, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Speaking as a journalist (covering news in Hong Kong at the moment), at least when it comes to the foreign correspondents here, most really are drawn to Obama more so than Hillary. When you’re covering this stuff for a living, day after day, you tend to see things from another angle and with different insight. I really don’t think most of the jaded reporters here are drawn to Obama’s message of hope and change. They’re too cynical for that. Most reporters I know really do believe he’s shown good judgement and remarkable clairvoyence on Iraq. In a series of speeches and interviews back in 2002, he correctly assessed the pros and cons of an invasion. It’s difficult to fault somebody for being so right. As far as Hillary is concerned, I’m constantly reminded of the all the scandals I had to cover in the 90′s. I think most journalists just don’t want to go through all that again.
Posted by: hkreporter | March 3, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
hkreporter,
As a journalist you shouldn’t be biased against one candidate or the other. If you really are a journalist that is.
Now Obama is a clairvoyant?….lol
Posted by: J | March 3, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
My family, friends and I support Hillary now and in November. All the way to the WH. Go Hillary go.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Don’t you people realize that this is all small talk? This is just a techno exercise; nobody is listening. The media is ignoring the very people who pay their “salaries”
Posted by: R | March 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
DCVoter says: “Today in the world, war is beginning in South America. The USA bombed …..bla, bla, bla….. Putin’s protege is being sworn in. Fidel Castro is still …….. US warships are sitting at bay off the coast of Lebanon waiting for orders ……… Genocide still exists in Darfur. Pakistan remains unstable…”
I still don’t understand how being the wife of a former president uniquely prepares someone for all the challenges that you list.
I mean trusting in the family name has not worked out so well for the current (bless heart) President. Why is Ol Hills any different? I don’t understand why all you Hillbots think she’s got all this experience. You Hillbots seem to be the same kinda folks that woulda loyally voted for the current president back in 2000.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
We here in California are thinking of you Texas. Good luck tomorrow and make your vote count. Do not make another mistake of voting for charisma over experience. I got charisma in 2000 and look where we are today. Vote experience and seek for the inspiration that will come when you feel and live the changes that it can make.
Posted by: Los Angeles | March 3, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
His lies and ties are what is going to unravel him.
Posted by: J | March 3, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Obama urged voters to not put another Dynasty in the white-house (aka, clinton dynasty). He chastised the Bush and the Clinton’s as Dynasties…..Yet ran out and got himself adopted by the Kenedy Dynasty. Yep, hyprocrisy is alive and well in in the mind of this pure, new, original and new candidate…….give me a break! AS though he thinks all voters are deaf and blind while care only for image and good talk! He gives the voters such little credit!
Posted by: San Francisco, California | March 3, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Commander Guy – good to see I finally get the opportunity to post at the same time you do. I have seen your posts for some time and wanted to answer your questions by telling you where the answers are. Search the words vote smart and learn about all the candidates without their campaign or the MSM providing the information in a biased manner. You can get all the answers there – bios, accomplishments, awards, voting records, and even campaign funding sources if that matters to you. There is no question her experience has nothing to do with the family name. Be empowered and vote smart!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Everbody Hurts: you say
God help our country if Obama is the nominee.
How about God help our country if John McCain gets into office. 100 years of war, bankruptcy and economic collapse that will leave us poorer than the poorest African nation when the Republicans are through with us.
Your “God help” is misplaced. Wrong man, wrong party.
Posted by: consardestroyingtheUSA | March 3, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
I think that the phrase that best sums up the idea of Clinton optimism is “Vote for me and hope for the best.”
Posted by: Publius | March 3, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
To equate the Clintons taking a pic w/Rezko and Obama`s 17 yr friendship w/the sleaze bag is more Obama silliness.
Posted by: luke | March 3, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Obama has gained millions by the like of Oprah and millionair supporters…..why do you think Rich people are supporting him? ask yourself this question. People support the candidate that they will benefit the most from…financially and politically. Obama is sleeping with the very same enemies that Hillary Clinton has been trying to fight against in these many years. Ask yourself why poor folks are supporting HIllary. Poor folks are those who need real and immediate change. They are the people that knows the basic simple truth…that they can not live on empty promises and words. They are the folks who knows the basic simple realistic truth that only real experience and solutions can bring about the changes that they need. Ask yourself why the rich are supporting Obama….Ask yourself why the rich are supporting Obama.
Posted by: Mass, USA | March 3, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
DCVoter
Nah. You miss the point. Her experience is Political Experience…i.e., the art of the smoke filled room. It is how you kneecap the other side while smiling. It is how you stab your own voters in the back when it is politically expediant to your short term interests. I agree that she’s (and Bill42) got the black arts down. About the foriegn affairs, I still don’t get that. Irak and all. She was a hardcore enabler and facilitator of this mess.
You/she can’t weasel her way out of this screwup by using just words. It’s her crown jewel of experience in 4rain affairs. Why should anyone think she’d be any better with Pakistan, Iran, and the other assorted potential crises out there? We all know who she call first when the red rings – Penn and Pollsters.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Clinton talking optimism??? She’s run such a negative campaign since Super Tuesday that it is laughable for her to even use the word “optimism”. She’s resorting to Rezko when she’s taken money from some of the slimiest people out there (Peter Paul, Chatwal, Mark and Denise Rich). She’s talking about Karl Rove type politics and then running Karl Rove type commercials.
I can’t wait until all of those Superdelegates jump off her sinking ship on Wednesday morning.
Posted by: Karl | March 3, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
The only reason Obama is winning is because of the Republicans hatred for Hillary Clinton. We must stop having open primaries because that is the death of the true Democratic party. If Hillary does not get nominated, I’m through – period.
Posted by: Donna R, Antioch, TN | March 3, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Commander Guy – thanks for making it obvious that you did not bother to look at the facts and that is your right to remain ignorant of them. As we say in my native state of Texas: you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink!
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Look at this, we are gonna be wiped out come November. The Democratic Party is in shambles. WOW
Posted by: Darryl | March 3, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
DC Voter
No mas huh.
Sounds like cut and run time. But that is expected from a Lib.
But I’ll google vote smart (right?) when I have time. This will lead to the celestial choir I guess.
But seriously, do you think HRC will cry on camera today? I don’t think so, but the cynics do.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
As a neutral and an outsider who has been following the democratic race for some time i can declare am more than qualified to pass an opinion with regards to the BO AND HC campaign . I has sat and read thousands of emails and am sick and bewildered on the views of so many.so ignorant and yet lack poor judgement, a clear sign of why americans are despised all over the world.
HC for all i have observed lacks the atom of good judgement and yet claims been experience. Experience is the product of encountering, participating and actively executing task where the opportunity is provided; reaping positive results mostly. i see no evidence of that on her resume. she talks about solution and substance when the
Posted by: Ralph | March 3, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
hkreporter
I hate to burst your bubble. My family, friends and I all spoke out in writing and by calling several congressmen, congresswomen, our governors, and senators before and after the Iraq war started. Also, we wrote Bush, Cheney and Rumsfied.
And we went to numerous protests in D C and around the country. It is people like us who spoke out that deserve the credit. There are millions of us in the US alone. Obama gives one speech and we should all bow down before him. Not in a million years.
Reporters in general love Obama because they think they can wrap him around their little finger. Obama is a con and if he liked reporters he would give them more access. He has been shuting access to his campaign down for weeks.
When you add up the people in America that vote for Senator Clinton, Senator Mc Cain, Huckabee and don’t vote at all, Obama doesn’t have the majority of the American people backing his campaign. And there are many people like myself who wouldn’t vote for Obama if he were the last politican on earth.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Rezko on trail today. Chicago is the most corrupted place in USA.
Obama promises to reform Washington, how much effort did he put into reforming Chicago and Illinois? He served in the state legislature for seven years. Did he attempt to start a reform movement, as Bobby Jindal has done in Louisiana? Or did his close relationship to a fixer like Rezko have something to do with any lack of crusading zeal?
Wake up, American??/????
Obama can’t reform his own corrupted state, and he is one of them, how he going to “change” washington, maybe he JUST bring all his corrupted Chicago friend to Washington.
Vote for Hillary!
Posted by: larratta | March 3, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
As usual this pro Obama column manipulates the headlines and mnipulates the information The preacer is Obama, He preach hope and he is a dissapointment, he preaches against NAFTA and tells Canadians “that not really”, preaches against special interests and look at his friend Rezko. It looks that lies when well marketed with media hyde create a star candidate easy to beat by the Republicans
Posted by: Raul | March 3, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Anyone who thinks that HRC can unite this country – not to mention the Democratic party – is delusional. I’m a Republican who will be voting for Obama in November. If HRC is the Democratic nominee, I’ll vote for McCain.
HRC is a divisive presence in the American political scene. IMO, she’s out to win no matter what, even if she does bring down the party, and that would be a shame. Personally, I think that the US needs more than 2 major political parties to truly reflect choices of over 300 million people. To have one of the parties be in total disarray isn’t healthy for any of us.
BTW, there are a lot of Republicans I know who are going to vote for Obama – none that I know would ever vote for HRC. She’s bad news, people.
Posted by: Intrigued Republican | March 3, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
larratta:
You Clinton supporters shouldn’t be talking about Rezko when there is a picture of the Clintons with Rezko!
Also please explain the Clinton’s connections with Norman Hsu and
Johnny Chung, two Chinese Nationals who are contributers to their campaigns!
Are the Clintons selling our secrets to the Chinese for campaign contributions?
Posted by: reaganfan | March 3, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Commander Guy and Ralph – I am happy to debate the facts if you want to discuss them but I wont engage in conversation that is nothing more than sexism, racism, or misleading biased information.
If you truly want to make your choice based on facts search vote smart to get the unbiased facts from an independent organization – then we’ll talk. If you choose not to that is your right but for me it is – just the facts, ma’m.
Posted by: DCVoter | March 3, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
reagan fan
Da Clintons were the forty second President. They, just like GWB, have had their pix made with assorted lowlifes and scumbags. That’s the nature of the job. It does not mean they are in bed together just because GWB and Abramoff or say your main man Larry Craig are in the same pix.
I grant it may look bad. But that ain’t the same as being bad. Moral relevatist like the Clintons can (not saying do) compartmentalize this type sleaze, no problem.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Starbuck 1979 they all have something to gain endorsing her. Cabinet, ambassador so on. Does not matter who endorses who. Its who I think will do the best job. Its not Hillary and her porn star husband.
Posted by: Jim Rod | March 3, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Hillary should not quit this race. Her candidacy is still viable, she has the dollars and the voters to keep it going. Obama’s people say they want to unite the party. Calling for Hillary to quit the race will not unite that party. We don’t want her to quit. We want it to go all the way to the convention floor. And that is our RIGHT! Trying to overturn all these voters who so passionately support Hillary Clinton will fracture the party even worse than it is now. Obama will only deepen the resentment and the hatred we all feel towards him if he attempts to steal this election. You say Hillary can’t win, that she doesn’t have enough votes? Does Obama have enough votes to win? NO, HE DOES NOT! That is why you want her to quit – so that he wins by default? No, no, no. That is not how a Democracy works! Seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan, let every state vote for the candidate of his/her choice, and let the voters themselves make the decision.
Posted by: Jdona | March 3, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Darn right. Hillary leaving the race would tear the party apart. Obama has no idea what he is doing. And things are coming out about this guy everyday.
Hillary will be our next president and Obama is scared to death of that fact.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
2005 Hillary was in India praising the Republican Outsourcing of American Jobs for the Indian workers in India. Hillary proved that she does NOT really care for the American workers on that day. Hillary and Republicans all forgot one little detail. The Indian workers in India do NOT VOTE in the USA Presidential Elections. People like MY husband whose job was OUTSOURCED are the ones who vote. We will vote against the Republicans. We will vote against Hillary. YOU TOOK AWAY OUR JOBS, WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR YOU. Obama08
Posted by: Angie | March 3, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Porn star husband??? Let me guess a kid Obama cult member. Shocking.
And Hillary will be our next president. Cry now and get out of the way.
Hillary and her supporters are going NO WHERE.
Posted by: starbuck1979 | March 3, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
The Difference — Hillary received Donations from Sexual Harassment company and declined to return the money — Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin, NBC News Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show. The federal government has accused the Illinois management consulting firm, International Profit Associates, or IPA, of a brazen pattern of sexual harassment including “sexual assaults,” “degrading anti-female language” and “obscene suggestions.” In a 2001 lawsuit full of lurid details, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claims that 103 women employees at IPA were victimized for years. The civil case is ongoing, and IPA vigorously denies the allegations. “This is by far, hands down, the worst case I’ve ever experienced,” said Diane Smason, one of the EEOC lawyers handling the lawsuit. “Every woman there experienced sex harassment, they were part of a hostile work environment of sex harassment. And this occurred from the top down.” As the Iceberg melts, with Bills reputation, we might not have heard the last of it.
Posted by: Angie | March 3, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
America is a great country, a global leader.
The world is hungry ,for long time, to see an American leader who can be honored as great global hero. Obama is a gift of God for America. So protect him.Elect Him!
Posted by: Politra | March 3, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
McCain: 2005 Forced to cut his ties with his own NON PROFIT REFORM INSTITUTE because they received HUGE donations from Companies that LOBBIED the Senate Commerce Committee at the same time he had his seat on the Senate Commerce Committee. That was a VIOLATION of his own ‘McCain-Feingold Act’.
Posted by: Angie | March 3, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Go Hilary, you go girl! Whatever you do Hillary do not pay any attention to the vote numbers, delegate numbers. etc, what’s good for your party, what’s good for your country—-keep with your self-interest and continue to trade acusations, innuendos, smears with Barack and give the Republicans the best campaign tool we have (and we don’t have to pay for it!). You are one valuable asset to the Republican cause. bless you, my dear.
Posted by: John | March 3, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Hillary and husband Bill, and John McCain are all an embarassment to the country. They are so quick tempered you never know which one you gona get. McCain with his FOUR LETTER WORD LANGUAGE on the Senate Floor. McCain and his FOUR LETTER WORD LANGUAGE at a young man asking a question. McCain called the you person something that CANNOT be repeated without being censored. Bill and Hillary yell, attack, and get flustered instead of dealing with ‘WHATEVER’ was asked in a calm manner. All three, and I do mean 3 since HILL&BILL are one ticket and McCain would all be a big mistake.
Posted by: Angie | March 3, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
The writing is on the wall. Hillary should drop out on Wednesday if she loses Texas or Ohio. Richardson is right, enough is enough, Hillary you can still do a lot of good as senator of NY. Obama will beat McMore-War by a landslide this Fall.
Obama 2008!
Posted by: pt | March 3, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Starbuck says: “Hillary will be our next president. Cry now and….”
What?!?
You saying you want Hills to cry on camera the day before a primary again?
Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
No Angie the only embarrassment to this country are you Obamacans (Republicans supporting Obama to get Hillary out). Obama supporter are delusional and uniformed.
Posted by: MR | March 3, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
GO GIRL! That’s it! Go right on back to the Senate where you will serve your last term as a representative from NY. The best alternative is to get Chelsea primed up for an election. SHE ALREADY HAS 28 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
Posted by: Joris | March 3, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Hillary Clinton is going to destroy the Democratic Party, she will fracture Democratic support mark my words America! McCain may win in November and our country is going to face some of the worse financial times in American history.
Further, we are about to embark on a new world war with McCain at the helm. God help us all. We are going to need someone with Obama’s talents to help us all pull together to get thru what I see coming. God Bless You All!
Posted by: America | March 3, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I am a registered Republican that has voted Democratic in the last 2 elections. I am really tired of hearing people say that Hillary should just give up now. She is not out yet and isn’t it up to her to decide if she wants to get out, not the biased media?
She deserves a chance just like Obama.
I really don’t want to have to choose between Mcain and Obama. They both scare me. Hillary has a good head on her shoulders and would make an excellent President. Give her(and me) a break!
Posted by: Eric | March 3, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
America -
You don’t know who we are. Not everyone that supports Hillary is attacking Obama. I have never said one negative thing about him. Unlike many who are quick to cricize Hilliary for many things. She does want what is best for the USA. Give are a chance.
Posted by: Eric | March 3, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
That was Margaret Thatcher and the Tory Party, not Labour. But at least she was a most accomplished lady. She didn’t flunk her bar exam.
Posted by: Bruce | March 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Hillary Clinton is going to destroy the Democratic Party, she will fracture Democratic support mark my words America! McCain may win in November and our country is going to face some of the worse financial times in American history.
Further, we are about to embark on a new world war with McCain at the helm. God help us all. We are going to need someone with Obama’s talents to help us all pull together to get thru what I see coming. God Bless You All!
Posted by: America | March 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Hillary hasn’t given anyone her tax returns, Bill took money from Rezko in early ’90′s — Hillary not giving back money to a large corp whose CEO fielding sexual harassment lawsuits — yet this wasn’t denounced and rejected, where are the library archives that Bush okayed — and isn’t it time for Hillary to pack it in don’t the people have a say??? If it was anyone but Hillary would they still be in the game?? doubt it —- and just who are the donors who did give money — sure it’s not the GOP members wanting to run against her??
Posted by: Paulet | March 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Can you imagine trying to stay in control of a huge staff who are out campainging on your behalf? Of getting an average of 3 hours sleep a night? However, this is where we can sometimes get a peak at someone’s inner character. The candidate who has shown the most class, won’t play dirty even though he’s being attacked by everyone from Rush who claims he doesn’t know what the caller meant when she called Obama a monkey to Hillary to McCain to big corporations. And he keeps winning. The swift boat lies won’t work this time around. Neocons, you LOSERS LOSE!!!!!
Posted by: Eric | March 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
There is not a single day goes that we do not hear some unethical, immoral or illegal activity by Barack Obama’s. These activities include Obama’s repeated drug use even in his thirties to his connection to shady characters like Tony Rezko who has been criminally charged -Clearly, he is character in a class by himself who has managed to dupe many Americans. The truth is that when his staunch supporters are asked about Obama’s accomplishments, they become speechless!
Go Hillary!
Posted by: Texas Latinos | March 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
The media has stayed clear of Obama for fear that it may antagonize the black population. Until now, even Hillary has played softy with him. However, if Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, he will face an onslaught from Republicans and their allies that will be very different in tone and intensity. Republicans have openly supported Obama in Texas and other states so that they can eliminate Hillary. However, we all know that they will vote for McCain in the November general elections.
Posted by: MaryS | March 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Amigos:
In his book “Dreams of My Father”, Obama has written extensively about his drug and alcohol use. He called himself as a “Junkie Pothead” who was always out to screw around. “That’s where I’d been headed: the final fatal role of the young would be black man,” Obama wrote. This was not a single incident or an adolescent indiscretion, rather when Obama was an adult in his twenties and thirties. Mostly he smoked marijuana and drank alcohol, but also used cocaine when he could afford it. Drug use continued through adulthood even when Obama became a state senator in Illinois.
Posted by: Pedro | March 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Clintonistas…Norman Hsu? Peter Paul? Whitewater? My oh my how we forget. And they say Obamanites are delusional!
Posted by: pinky112 | March 3, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
The perplexing part to me is how any self respecting, hard working American could possibly want more years of the Clinton families inability to tell the truth. Bill lied, their marriage is a lie, and Hilary is nothing more than a a walking, talking, bundle of lies. Any fool voting for this carpet-bagging phony deserves what they get. A blowbag phony that will do as she chooses and damn the American people. I hear her loud mouth attacks on the opposition, but I don’t hear her answering questions about how she intends to accomplish any of her promises. Oh, wait, that’s right, Bill did the same thing. You damn fools!
Let’s do the Clinton’s a favor and get her out of the race, so she and Bill can finally divorce and live happily, hopefully, to never be heard from again!
Posted by: DJH | March 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Hey Texas Latinos,
Your statement, “Clearly, he is a character in a class by himself who has managed to dupe many Americans.”
Seems to me this statement has been plagiarized from a past New York Times story about Bill Clinton!
How soon they forget?
Posted by: DJH | March 4, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Obama again flip-flopping on his foreign policy, by saying that he won’t talk to Hamas, because they don’t recognize the existence of a country. How about Iran, any many other muslim countries, that don’t recognize the existence of Israel? I doubt that he really has a standard in the bottom of his heart for the foreign policies that he obviously lack of experience. He can say what he think when he was asked but he might not mean it later, so don’t get his words out of context. I hope I didn’t get him out of context again…
Posted by: Miwatch | March 4, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Hello Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island:
Thank you for standing up for Hillary. Together, we are going to work to rebuild this country after 8 years of GW.
I am glad that people are begining to see right thru Obama. The dirt is beginning to come out and he is about to fold. On the other hand, Hillary has already been through the meat grinder.
Go Hillary!
Posted by: Iraq Vet | March 5, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm