Team Clinton Hits Obama on Wright
Writing on the Huffington Post website, high-profile Hillary Clinton surrogate Lanny Davis calls Barack Obama’s speech on race "brilliant" and then pushes the Rev, Wright story.
"I personally regarded many of Rev. Wright’s sermons as filled with hate words and bigoted generalizations base on race (in this case, all Whites)," Davis writes. "One could even call them racist. His remarks post-9/11 were nothing short of reckless and unforgiveable." (sic)
Then the push:
"But many people, including Obama supporters, may still have two questions that Senator Obama’s speech did not sufficiently answer, at least in my opinion. And, for any Democrat whose priority is to win back the White House in 2008, they need to be answered now — because, if Senator Obama ends up the party’s nominee (I am a supporter of Senator Clinton’s) — for sure Senator McCain will insist they be answered in the fall."
Davis says the questions are the following:
"1. If a white minister preached sermons to his congregation and had used the ‘N’ word and used rhetoric and words similar to members of the KKK, would you support a Democratic presidential candidate who decided to continue to be a member of that congregation?
"2. Would you support that candidate if, after knowing of or hearing those sermons, he or she still appointed that minister to serve on his or her ‘Religious Advisory Committee’ of his or her presidential campaign?"
Davis then pushes reporters to press Obama on these questions.
Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson told The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder that Davis’s op-ed was not officially sanctioned by the campaign.
I agree that the race speech didn’t settle some of these questions, but I don’t know that Rev. Wright using the N word is equivalent to a member of the Ku Klux Klan using it.
What do you think?
- jpt
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Listen , no matter how Obama tries to spin this the issue is crystal clear. He lied. He knew his church was racist yet he claimed never to have heard hateful sermons. But when he realised that just wouldnt sell he goes out and makes a speech.What a phoney !
Posted by: john smith | March 20, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
So what does Mr Davis have to say about Clinton supporter, the Rev. Manning?
Posted by: Thinking | March 20, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
I have found Mr. Davis to be a very divisive figure throughout this campaign. This man has been walking a fine line for a while in his smear of Sen. Obama, and he now seems to have no shame. Sen. Obama has answered these questions, in his speech, as well as in follow up interviews such as Nightline where he addressed the same question regarding the KKK question. Maybe Lanny should re-read Obama speech and understand the challange that was emedded throughout the speech. He seems to not have understood…but more likely he completely understand that the Clinton campaign is in a deep DEEEP hole and the only way to get out is to use the crutch of race to climb out. Years from now we will either look back on this election and be proud or ashamed. I really hope we can be proud….
Posted by: Michael | March 20, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
That is a simple answer if it was a white candidate running for president and videos came out of him/her attending KKK meeting or any anti-american meetings he or she would of been asked to step down.
It would not matter what speech he or she gave after that the media would of been all over that person to get out of the race for the good of racial unity.
There even may of been a few marches by the Rainbow group to get that person to step down. No one on here can dispute that would not of happen, but here we are all playing these hypocritical games, trying to justify Obama’s stance and Wright rhetoric, which in both instances are totally unacceptable.
Posted by: SJ | March 20, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
This is so sad for Hillary Clinton. She does realize that her win at any cost to damage her teammate will not yield a win in the General Election. All I think she is doing not is setting up the process for riots and protests. I see it coming….
Posted by: Karen | March 20, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Are you people purposely dense connecting Hillary to Manning.
1. She is not a 20 years member of his church.
2. She has not been sitting in church while this vile stuff was said.
3. You are reaching for anything, something to try an connect Hillary.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
People have you not noticed that Obama is a kind of a person who can turn a huge mountain into a plain flat valley.
He is very much gifted. This is in born. He is a type of Tony Blair like. And this what we call “really politician”.
Posted by: Peace | March 20, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
I thnk the Clinton camp should stay away from the Wright issue but for those who on their own opt to comment on the Wright fiasco I would suggest the Obama camp not make a big issue about it. If the Obama camp wants the public to put the side Obama’s sitting in a pew for 20 yrs listening to Wright making “controversial” statements and as long as he points out that Wright is/was mentor, friend, advisor and “family” that he cannont disavow- then I think his camp has no of which to speak when it comes to a Clinton supporter saying anything that can be construed as “divisive”. The Wright fiasco is a fact of Obama’s life, he’s ackowledged , people still do have questions and he will be dogged about it as long as he’s running for office,
so don’t whine about and pull the race card.
Posted by: alpaig | March 20, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
In the past week there have distractions from debates about the main issues facing this country and the world. Detractors have been playing successfully on how our brains are programmed to respond to scandalous human relationships. Polls today show that Obama has lost ground from independents. Some critics have predicted that Obama’s ties with his pastor will hurt him if he wins the democratic nomination. I beg to advance a contrary opinion. This is an extraordinary year in the sense that more and more Americans need some straight talk on health insurance, having good paying jobs, addressing the credit crisis, strengthening the dollar, energy cost, climate change, security and foreign policy (Iraq, Middle East, Africa, South America, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan). Obama wouldn’t be significantly hurt if he articulates these issues right. This is why. 10 years ago Bill Clinton was doing a good job running the country and suddenly he was mired in a saga involving Monica Lewinsky. What started in January 1998 as allegations about adultery and lies telling turned out to be disgraceful and dangerous to Bill Clinton’s presidency by August 1998 only because the law seemed to have been broken. By September 1998 the president appeared diminished and was deserted by some democrats after Ken Starr readied a potentially damaging report following investigations on the shameful relationship. But when Ken Starr exposed excessive details of the sexual relationship, people had doubts and Ken Starr appeared unfair even though Mr. Clinton had offered a public apology several times since August. Bill Clinton’s credibility was in shambles but he still was not forced out of office. Then came the mid-term elections in November 1998 when he was expected to be punished by his critics. Guess what. His supporters were more mobilized to keep him in power. The Democrats won more seats in the House of Representatives and lost no Senate seat, saving Bill Clinton from impeachment. Bill Clinton earned a victory because the public mostly felt that a president should not be removed from office for either committing adultery or lying about it. The public also perceived the press as hypocritical for evoking that he should be dumped. Just as voters who felt that Bill Clinton was unfairly targeted turned out in November 1998 to hand him a victory, suggestions that Barack Obama should’ve disowned his pastor during the holy week of Easter to avoid political damage and any further excessive focus on the relationship in the weeks and months ahead could backfire.
Posted by: Chris (New Jersey) | March 20, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
If the Dems continue to allow Obama to campaign, they are making a huge mistake. Pary insiders should encourage him to do the right thing – something he doesn’t appear able to do……….quit the race.
Dems need to win so America can recover. Obama cannot win. Media fans can try and try to divert and fool the public but the tapes don’t lie and Obama did lie!!!!!!!!!!
It says a lot to me about his character that he hasn’t resigned already. He is as arrogant as he is inexperienced.
B
Posted by: Belvie | March 20, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
People, remember McGovern in 1972.
There is still time for us
Posted by: history | March 20, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
It’s really appalling to me that so many people out there are shocked by Wright’s words and anger.
Look at what Wright grew up in – what other blacks of his generation grew up in as well – and it’s easy to see that this kind of anger is the norm in his and Barack’s community.
The fact that Lanny Davis and others find this shocking is not a reflection on Mr. Obama, but a reflection on themselves. It speaks to these pundits ignorance of today’s racial divide and what role race plays in our society. With ignorance like this, is it really that hard to see now why racism is still alive and well in our society?
Of course, we all know why Davis is still pushing this – he wishes to use racial ignorance for political gain. And that, my friends, is terrible and wrong.
Posted by: RJ | March 20, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
1. If a white minister preached sermons to his congregation and had used the ‘N’ word and used rhetoric and words similar to members of the KKK, would you support a Democratic presidential candidate who decided to continue to be a member of that congregation?
“2. Would you support that candidate if, after knowing of or hearing those sermons, he or she still appointed that minister to serve on his or her ‘Religious Advisory Committee’ of his or her presidential campaign?”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
While these are thought provoking questions, they both force you to become a “single issue voter”. I think a big part of the problem is that people have set up all these issues that everyone must agree on, and that is never going to happen.
I could vote for such a person if I believed in them and their message and felt that it was not reflective of who THEY were and what THEY believed.
Black people have done this for years – supporting politicians like George Wallace even after he stood in the school house door to keep black people from going to the University of Alabama.
One of the central tenets of Christianity is forgiveness and not judging others. Some people only like to use these when it is convenient for them.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | March 20, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Toby,
Are you dense? That is a 8,ooo member church, surely there are other reasons why Obama was a member there.
Surely if you looke at the Manning video, you relize that the Clintons also supported Rev Manning, attended his church on a number of occasions.
Posted by: Thinking | March 20, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Pragmatically the question is do the Democrats want to win the general election?
Obama will not win the general election.
And … unless and until this fact is recognized prior to giving the nomination to Obama, the Democrats will lose.
The purpose of the superdelegates was/is to prevent another McGovern like defeat. Will these superdelegates do their job?
Posted by: angie | March 20, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Thank You Mr. Davidlee Willson for putting the sermon in the right perspective.
People of reason without an agenda will recognize the truth of your analogy.
Posted by: tom | March 20, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Why did the Obama supporters in the Michigan legislature prevent citizens from holding a new primary?
Posted by: geevill | March 20, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Hillary Clinton’s many problems just begun.
Hillary Clinton has 35 years of experience in the White House Standing by her Man. Tapes just released show she was a 100% behind NAFTA not so much on Health Care. Mrs. Clinton was there standing behind her Man when he had tryst with Monica in the White House. What was her relationship with Vince Foster? Hillary Clinton wanted the nomination process locked up before the tapes were released, it did not happen.
Obama all the way to the White House!
Posted by: Lookup | March 20, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Dude Ranch, that was impressive.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Hillary Clinton on the hot seat, I wonder how it feels.
Posted by: Lookup | March 20, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Belvie: I am so sick of the dumb Hillary Clinton Supporters saying Obama cannot win cause neither CAN SHE. So what is your point? Here you go…I am not voting for Obama so WHO CARES? Hillary Clinton supporters are not the only people that exist in this country. Who gives a crap? If My Hillary don’t win, I will not VOTE. My Hillary is the greatest. We need keep using Rev Wright against Obama so My Hillary can win. Who cares you whiners! Your words are just as Cheap hers by any means to get to the TOP.
Posted by: Karen | March 20, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Hillary Clinton has never done nothing for us,’” said Sharpton, recounting a conversation with Obama for his followers at his group’s weekly rally.
So what you are saying Sharpton is that she ALWAYS did SOMETHING.
Posted by: geevill | March 20, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Today, CNN hit an all time low that will not go without questions of outright bias reporting–schedule of Hillary Clinton’s time line in the White House when Bill was committing “sexual” acts? She gets my vote for staying with her man for reasons only mature and intelligent people can understand. Deliberate attachment to the admissions of the New York Governors–one can only suppose? – or Diversion from Obama’s racial troubles? How about it media? Anderson Cooper did everything last night to present Obama as another John Kennedy except give Obama a public kiss? I am not sure why he did not as he obviously showed it through his body language. What about equal time for Hillary so as not to directly sway public opinion in a highly biased show of poor journalism? Are one of you journalists up to some fair journalism? The Clinton campaign is attempting to keep the biased media focused on what is important and what is fair (the connections between corporate networks and the Obama campaign–CNN, Time Warner ring a bell, and ties to energy and Obama’s voting records?)? I applaud the effort! Perhaps more people should look at every network’s corporate structure and connect the dots. The media is as responsible as the Obama campaign in making this primary a divisive attempt of a junior senator to take an ambitious ride to power on a philosophy brought forth in his last book about HOPE that was co-advised by his pastor of “hate” that he intimately calls uncle. Mr. Obama will never be President if the Dems are foolish enough to nominate him. That would be a mistake beyond intellectual belief? The Party has received irreparable splitting as a result. Obama cannot win popular votes and must rely on a caucus setup that disenfranchises numerous voters for various reasons in order to claim that he is the people’s choice. He is the choice of something but it is not representative of middle class democratic values. No Hillary–Democrats for McCain will soon be in session!
Posted by: Rosemary Storaska | March 20, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
I knew this was coming…the Clinton campaign needs more mileage out of this story and they are willing to continue to divide the party for a personal victory.
The tactics of the Clinton campaign are going to be the downfall of the Democrats in November. I didn’t think Limbaugh knew what he was talking about when he said the Clintons would kill the party for personal gain but his words now seem prophetic.
I am disgusted. You Clinton supporters should be scratching your heads and asking how you can win the general election if your alienate the Obama supporters.
The answer, you cannot. In November the Republicans will have returned to their party and the African American vote will have abandoned Clinton completely.
Incredible.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
If Obama is the nominee, he wont win Florida or Michigan because he has disenfranchised them and he wont win NY. How many times does the claim that America is to blame for 9/11 by his church or 20 years that he supports financially to spew this garbage have to played in NY for him to lose that state as well?
So exactly how many Colorados does it take to make up for loses in MI, FL and NY???
The man is unelectable.
Posted by: s.b. | March 20, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Rosemary
CNN is not alone reporting that. It that just sick. ABC did it yesterday, also some major papers are also reporting this. This is just plain sick the attempts to take obama’s rev wright problem off the front page.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Hey Syl
That goes both ways. the obama people will be scratching their heads also. When the “low-information” democrats, latinos, asians dont vote for obama in November also.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Toby, no intelligent person is going to believe Obama disenfranchised FL and MI voters. Those are words from an uninformed individual that fails to acknowledge the facts. These decisions in FL and MI have nothing to do with Obama and the Democrats in those states are intelligent enough to know such.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Yesterday we saw more evidence that the republicians are not going to run out of amunition agaist Obama when it comes to portraying him as being associated with radical black theology. It appears that Mr. Obama had up on its website yesterday and endorcement from the radical New Black Panther Party. Not long after the posting it was removed but not before the republicans were able to call it to everyones attention. Also yesterday Mr. Obama was tied to another controversial preacher from the south side of Chicago who happens to be a superdelegate who supports him. He is seen making racial rants against mayor Daily and others. Fox News reports that there is more coming.
So you see this speech although it went over well with Obama supporters it has and will not stop this story. This will dog him the rest of the campaign. The reality is that the democrats will nominate a canidate that has 527 written all over him and what looked like a sure thing is anything but.
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Davis’ remarks are very similar to comments I’ve read on this website, but I agree that the parallels between white racism and black racism are strained. I also think that its unwise for anyone even remotely associated with the Clinton campaign to seize on the Wright issue for political purposes. The issue will play out one way or another on its own; no need to run the risk of being charged with race-baiting. Maybe another “denounce and reject” is in order.
Posted by: shellray | March 20, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Yes obama is disenfranchising this states by refusing to allow a revote. This is something the media is not talking about also. It is the obama camps holding up these 2 states to have their votes count. And without these 2 states in the fall “Hello President McClain”.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
I have to say that many people in my church may be racists. My minister may be as well. THAT DOES NOT MAME ME A RACIST!
Obama has not lied to us. He has shown us his powerful ability to lead.
Many do not like the fact that he is the best candidate in this campaign to lead America in to a future with positive change. Many factions are coming together to make sure he is not elected. Business interests want the status quo.
Common people will loss being condemned to business as usual. Business for the lobbyists. Business for defense contractors. Business for all the special interests who will come together to defeat the real American people.
Posted by: McClum | March 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
I really hoped that the Clinton campaign wouldn’t sink this low, flaming the race card. But then, they said they would do anything to win. There are millions of people linked to congregations, and their friends in those congregations, who would not leave a parish or assembly because of a pastor’s inflammatory words, or even gestures. Think of the millions of Catholics and Protestants who remained in their community churches as they learned of their pastors failings with respect to alcohol abuse, marital infedelities and even abuse of minors. Expecting Mr. Obama to someone leave his church community, or condemn a man, rather than his horrific words, is unreasonable. And in this case, only being used to flame the politics of racism.
Posted by: MAS | March 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Rosemary,
I could not agree with you more. Obama has proclaimed his greatest quality is that he is a uniter. Yet, he has divided the Democratic voters like no other candidate in my lifetime. Let me be emphatic, overwhelmingly, I have heard Democrats tell me that if he is the nominee, they will vote Republican. He is damaged goods, via the Wright tapes. This we can lay at Obama’s feet, not the feet of Hillary Clinton. I saw those clips of Wright many months ago. I went to Trinity’s website many months ago. All were there to be had, with a simple google search. Does anyone reallly think that the Clinton campaign would wait until she was loosing in the delegate and popular vote to bring forth the Wright problem?? If Clinton camp wanted to play the race card, strategically it would have been done much sooner so as to optimize candidacy. Obama campaign played the race card adn played it badly. Obama campaign absolutely excoriated Geraldine Ferraro as racist, though she spoke what most people believed. She readily admitted that she was chosen as the VP nominee because of her gender. Obama camp was irate; vitriol spewed. Ferraro was savaged. Obama has only Obama to thank for this mess.
Working class voters will never back Obama in the general election; will never happen; they were already conflicted about his candidacy. AA was off their backs, not the backs of the legacy families.
Third Party anyone?
Posted by: marie | March 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
It is amazing how most of the people cannot be honest with themselves. Until we Americans can get to that point of accepting the truth at all cost, we will continue to expose ourselves to be exploited and deceived by the politicians. In my own opinion, I think it will be difficult for Obama to come clean on this issue. I think we are yet to know who he really is.
Posted by: Idong | March 20, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Perhaps you should get your priorities straight.
Team Clinton Hits Obama on Wright
should be
Team Obama condones and supports hate.
Posted by: James | March 20, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Mr. Obama admitted in his speech that contrary to what he had been saying he had heard Wright make “controversial” statements while he was in attendance. My question is what was the nature of these controversia statements? Were they similar to the ones we heard? Were you there at the time he made the ones that have been shown. I am not sure will be getting a answer any time soon!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
It is amazing how most of the people cannot be honest with themselves. Until we Americans can get to that point of accepting the truth at all cost, we will continue to expose ourselves to be exploited and deceived by the politicians. In my own opinion, I think it will be difficult for Obama to come clean on this issue. I think we are yet to know who he really is.
Posted by: Idong | March 20, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Lenny Davis is a true loyal friend of the Clintons, a good democrate, but what he is missing is the fact that nobody is voting for Rev Wright, he is not the presidential candidate. Thinking that Obama is in agreement with his pastor’s views or rethoric is not true. He said it and repeated it, he rejects and disaprove these terms,these words, he wants to be a post-race candidate. Obama has done the right thing by talking about race and explaining that everyboy is needed to support each other and address it. Democrats have to join forces to get back the White House by working together in supporting Obama the future nominee to become the future president of America. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | March 20, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
I agree with those who are calling on the Democratic leaders to convince Obama to withdraw from the race. If he’s nominated, McCain will be the president. The lessons of McGovern 1972 must not be forgotten.
Posted by: Andrew Austin | March 20, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
This is hilarious, white America is determined to destroy Obama watching him get treated with such contempt
in the media is great. Its obvious Obama doesn’t share these views of Rev. Wright yet he is held accountable as if the incederary words fell from his own lips.Funny thing is he is being destroyed by his own party which gets more racist every day, but
what can you expect from a country that built its riches from free slave labor. They doing what they do best now which is destroying a honest hard working man and placing hin in the role of villain. Gotta love America good job guys hope you enjoy the lynching and enjoy 4 more years of republican rule because the Hilary has set the democrats back another 10 years be her attacks on Obama
and will never win the general and neither will Obama now. Democrats cut each others throat now there is no need to even have a general election because we self destructed
Posted by: gilesjp | March 20, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
MAS
this isnt about the Clinton campaign. This is the american voters who will not support him in November because of hate, anti-american stuff shown on these videos.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
To all those posting about what Wright may or may not have said to Obama in private. Please see his interview with Anderson Cooper from last night (i.e., his interview on Anderson Cooper 360). He explains some of the themes these private comments touched on. Also, the Black Panther story has already been debunked. This was just another failed “political hit job,” by Fox. This race is getting super ugly and the U.S. is showing its true bigot colors. Why are we so willing to tear down the first candidate in a long time who could inspire the U.S. to greater prosperity? This saddens me.
Posted by: Jack | March 20, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Obama seems to be a shallow politician.
He uses his church to win state elections and a local political fixer to help him buy his mansion. After race basing the south Obama feels the need to lecture the rest of the country about his inner deamons and church faux pas. Obama is the one who needs counseling. The rest of us are just trying to pay the mortgage.
Posted by: hhkeller | March 20, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Clinton hasn’t hit Obama on Wright…
Obama has hit Obama on Wright!!
Contradictions, coverups, poor judgment, dishonesty, long term association and acquiescence in hatred and America bashing. Hillary would be history if the situation were reversed.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 20, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
I am from Florida, and yes, I want my vote to count. I don’t have time for this revote crap.
Posted by: Gus Carey | March 20, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Guys, please, please please…. just know that the rest of the world is watching you and reading you comments… and on top of that, judging you!! So whatever comments you have in here, make sure it is an informed one, preferably backed by evidence..and one that ultimately promotes the wel-being and interests of mankind in General!
Posted by: B | March 20, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
John McCain has no new ideas and he will not solve America’s many problems and John McCain will not be the next President of these United States comes November. Hillary Clinton’Campaigns will go down in flames very soon. Rev Wright issue is a non-issue.
Posted by: Lookup | March 20, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
The obama camp is one that will do anything to win.
1. Starting racist rumors about the Clintons.
2. Going to Canada to tell them to ignore the rhetoric, it will be different when he’s elected.
3. Throwing his Grandma under the bus.
There are more but you get the gist of it.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Unless Obama can try to Change the views and teachings of is church on hate America, hate the government, then he must believe it and stand by it. For a church to teach such hate, and blame the government he wants to lead, he has to change that first.
Posted by: seah | March 20, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Yesterday Mr. Obama started using his attack that Hillary Clinton lacked the judgement to be president. I don’t think Mr. Obama should be using judgement as a primary reason that he should be elected when we saw that he sat in that church for 20yrs and never left. What kind of judgement is that?
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Barack Obama needs to address his reasons to list a link on his website to the Black Panther Party.
Posted by: Jerry Shaw | March 20, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
The Rev. Wright videos of sermons in the months before S. Carolina do add context and explain how it is that African-americans turned on the Clinton’s so quickly.
These sermons and others were creating the atmosphere and setting up the incidents exploited by the BO campaign and the media.
Most of us were (and still are) surprised to discover that if you challenge a political opponent’s words, it is racism.(fairy tale)
Debating with facts with your opponent is also racist. (LBJ signed a bill into law while President).
Comparing your political opponents success to a former politician’s success is racist. (Jesse Jackson).
Now we have learned that if we do not support a particular candidate, we are racist. (BO)
Arguable commentary about one candidate is racist. (BO’s race is an advantage in this election)
The reaction from myself, and many friends and colleagues and family members is of much sadness. Racism means something very different to us. The word racist had a sharp sting to it.
Now? Hell, we have to accept that under the new definition – we are racists.
Oddly, it no longer stings. That is the saddest thing of all.
Posted by: LChris | March 20, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
This nation is not ready for the change that Obama talks about if we cannot try to understand what it is like to be a minority in this capitalistic society. To be raised in a society where minorities are refused adequated education because they cannot afford to move to the suburbs. Or the judicial system is more unfair to miniorities than it is to the Anglo-Americans. Where job-opportunities are far and between because jobs have relocated to suburban areas and outside of public transportation. Think about it, lack of education and job opportunity leads to more crime. Cities allowed deed’s to be created that banned black and hispanic people from moving in certain neighborhoods. America’s government has done very little to improve these conditions or to solve these problems in the black and hispanic communities. The US government left Katrina victims who were predominantly black behind for at least five days without any type of assistance or acknowledgement, except from the media. Yet the US government can rush to the assistance of other foreign countries within a hours or a single day.
What about the African American people who faught in the Civil War, WWI and WWII to come back to the same Jim Crowe laws and lack of economic opportunity such as Reverend Jeremiah Wright who served in the US Marine Corp. Do they not have a right to harbor some form of anger and to speak about these injustices in a speech. Should we remain silent and continue to be down trodden by this society that is so blind to their own problems. Or can we take Obama’s challenge and talk about our feelings and experiences of racism, put them on the table and begin to heal by embracing eachother’s diversity. Then we can begin to take on the real enemies, which are the special interests and large corporations that are shipping our jobs overseas and allowing legislators to pass legislation that is only significant to their profits.
Whether you vote for him or not, do you have the courage to take on his challenge of embracing eachother and turning the page on racism? It begins with us and then we can change the way things are done in Washington.
Posted by: BAC-Independent | March 20, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
it’s not about race…as Obama has said over and over..it’s about “judgement”…and the fact is..for twenty years..Barack obama emotionally, mentally, and FINANCIALLY supported an america hating ..RACIST!
knowing full well what he supported, with his money, membership and PRAISE…Obama demanded that Imus be fired,,, even though Imus helped him get elected to the senate..and helped him sell millions of books…due to Imus’s poor judgement in the language he used…well Mr. Obama, i expect no less of you….you helped Fund this racist america hating pastor for 20 years! you must resign from the Senate!
if trent lott had to resign as majority leader for his rhetoric….you must go as well!
Posted by: grace alexis | March 20, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
This is a real issue and it’s not going away. It’s going to cost Obama the nomination because there is no plausible satisfactory answer to the question of why he continued to attend this church for 20 years.
The comparison to the KKK may be offensive to some, but to Jewish Americans who rightly fear and despise the thinly veiled anti-semitism that urks beneath Wright’s sermons, the comparison probably feels about right.
All Americans should be concerned. either Obama has much more radical beliefs than he admits or he has undergone some sort of personal transformation about which he has never spoken.
Posted by: Mark H | March 20, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
How sad that anyone can say those hateful things in a church that prays to Jesus. My idea of God is love not hate and its his job to judge not human kind. Hate is hate, pure and simple no matter the race of the person delivering it. Senator Obama was empowering a man who has a lot of hate in his heart by calling him his spiritual leader. Obama should withdraw his candidacy in light of his poor choice of companionship. I wouldn’t back a white candidate who attended a White Supremist church and dare say, not a candidate that hates the very fact that I exist.
Posted by: Brenda | March 20, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
After reading the entries on this blog from both supporters (volunteer and paid) from both campaigns and reading the entries from a few people have been faithful, pre-election readers and responders to the Punch, I have to comment. At this point, I agree that Obama is in for a very difficult time to win the General Election. I feel it is inevitable that he will be the Democratic nominee but I do not see how he will ever overcome this week and the Pastor’s comments to unite the nation to vote for him. It is sad because the Democrats should have had a very easy time taking over the White House during this election. It’s unfortunate.
Posted by: RD | March 20, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
We need a president who wants to change our political priorities, not another name-caller and finger pointer. I’ll pick Obama over Rush Limbaugh, Hillary, or any Lobbyist from K Street all day long.
Jay in Austin
Posted by: Jay in Austin | March 20, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
If Hillary were really smart, she would “call off the dogs” and let BHO self-destruct. His long-running support of Black Militant, anti-American “Reverend” Wright says more about Obama than Hillary’s campaign people could EVER say. At least we now know where Michele’s anti-American attitude came from! As former Obama supporters, my wife and I would now like to see Hillary get the nomination, so at least we have a CHOICE in November. Otherwise, we will be FORCED to vote for Old Man McCain. Hillary Clinton has a better understanding of the economy than either of the other two, and at least she still seems to like our country!
Posted by: Rhys | March 20, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Obama thinks he’s slick… he uses far left tactics with smoke screens to cover his many faults and associations. It is not possible that he knew nothing of his church’s beliefs: this past year they gave a cover story in thier magazine to Louis Farakhan with honors and praised him for his ” honesty and integrity” – this about someone who is a revisionist historian, anti-semite, and hate speaker! for shame for shame… tell me, are we to believe that Obama does NOT open his mail? or even glance the covers of his subscriptions? This will be his undoing, no mainstream voter wants someone whos main support comes from these hateful groups. That the church also has many great social programs does not excuse thier bigoted hateful agenda…in fact it is a wolf in sheeps clothing….
Posted by: Jay S | March 20, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
If i were the Clinton camp i would stay away from the wright comment.
Posted by: dale | March 20, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
we seem to be side tracked on this issue
why is it that the democrate party can tell free americans there vote does not count in FL & MI ? Wake up the democrats are trying to distate to the american voters . If these votes count, then oboma would not even be an issue./
Posted by: Jbonline | March 20, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
we seem to be side tracked on this issue
why is it that the democrate party can tell free americans there vote does not count in FL & MI ? Wake up the democrats are trying to distate to the american voters . If these votes count, then oboma would not even be an issue./
Posted by: Jbonline | March 20, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
A large part of who we are is who we associate with and who we choose as our mentors. I question Sen Obama’s judgement in “standing by his man” and shudder to think who he would choose to be in his cabinet should he be elected. Support, personal or not, of a man who spews racism and such a deplorable lack of patriotism is not someone that I want leading this country. Obama’s poor judgement does not speak well of him and those who see him through rose colored glasses as the next savior of this country better take a second look.
Posted by: Vicki | March 20, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Lets see, Obama is not the reflection of his Pastor because his Pastor is not running for President. But, McCain is a reflection of Pres Bush, but Pres Bush is not running for President. Interesting. The problem I am having with this election, is that we have three sitting Senators running. These are the same folks that cannot solve our problems NOW.
Posted by: homjett | March 20, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
LChris,
You are so correct! Where is Ted Kennedy? The product of Kennedy’s endorsement has torn open the Democratic Party. It is bleeding badly and needs an intervention.
The Kennedy silence speaks volumes.
Posted by: marie | March 20, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Rush Limbaugh for President? Now where did THAT idea come from? Are the Democrats considering nominating Michael Moore? Haven’t we had ENOUGH of extremists… on BOTH sides?
Posted by: Rhys | March 20, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
People look at the issues that are in the present, bad economy, mortgate crisis, a war in Iraq that there really wasnt a reason for, etc.
If we look at all the candidates past and present, and who there associates are, would we really support them? Let it go, they are pulling up stuff from the past. And I dont think that Rev Wright”s sermons are anti American at all. I have heard him speak at numerous times. He is just stating what is real. Remember people have said the same thing about Martin Luther King, Jr in the past. Also anything that bucks the status quo is always seems to be offensive. Live your life as a African American person in this society and then you will understand the sermons fully.
Thanks
Obama 08
Posted by: Jay 30308 | March 20, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
When Obama entered the presidential race, I became excited about politics again. It’s evident the Clintons will do anything and everything to get back to the White House. Personally, I am tired of the Bushes and the Clintons and was eager to see someone new and fresh. But, heaven forbid, that should happen. Let’s find everything we can on Obama and go after him and keep anything negative about him in the news as long as we can. I’m sick of politics as usual. How can Hillary unite the party when she is tearing it apart. I’ve been a lifelong Democrat, but if Clinton gets the nomination, I won’t vote.
Posted by: neena | March 20, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
OK – Let’s accept the fact that those of you that think Rev. Wright is preaching hate have either no concept of his words within the context of his experiences or you are just in denial.
If simply making his comments is enough, then Rev. Wright is a racist and so are Geraldine Ferraro, Bill Clinton, You and any other person that dares to raise the issue of race. Rev. Wright is exactly what is needed in this country – someone with the courage to speak openly about what is being said in private as opposed to acting like racism doesn’t exist and coming on message boards acting as if all is well in this dysfunctional country.
Obama is going to carry 40-45 of the Democrats with him regardless of how you feel and that reality is your dilemma. You are merely pissing off the African American vote as well as the civil liberties extremists with these unwarranted attacks on what is viewed by many as Rev. Wright stating the obvious. Furthermore you are challenging this man’s right to have his opinion and Senator Obama’s ability to separate himself from the opinions of his former pastor.
I’m becoming more convinced that this is truly a nation of hypocrites. Obama might be the only politician I’ve seen with the courage to actually admit he has been associated with someone with these strong beliefs. The others deny what we all rightfully know exists in every home in America and amongst close friends. That is the reality of a racially influenced society.
To me, the real hypocrites are the ones that decry Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Common Obama! You would win presidency. Just come out clean and be straight. Pastor is the one who should promote peace, love, and unity. I don’t find these common in Rev. Wright where his sermon preached hate and divisive. Yet, it only advances and encourages terrorism. More or less, Wright should not be any one’s religious or spiritual advisor. I am an asian, I realized that this great country citizens with all races has been doing more generosity than any other countries to the poor in Africa and elsewhere.
Posted by: Henry | March 20, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Can’t we just all get along?
Posted by: Missyb | March 20, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
I believe it is over for Obama. If Hillary was in an identical circumstance the media would be all over her and most white people know that. The media can continue to try and make excuses for Obama, but here is what most Americans are saying to themselves; why didn’t Obama get up and walk out of that church when these sick things were being said by his Pastor and why would you bring your kids to hear this hatered?
Posted by: Rick | March 20, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
How did Obama ever get where is has ib beyond my knowledge of an elected individual, it shows that the individual in the state of Illinois that cast a vote to elect this person fit the same catergory as him, he is not fit to be elected to be President of this country let alone represent the state of Illinois. Why is it that his so called minister of this church Mr Wright can get away with these statements that he has made against the United States , and Obama was a memeber in this so called Church for over 2o years. Remember Imus the white radio show host that had his show taken off because of Jessie Jackson and Sharperson, these statements of this so called minister were alot worse, but the news media and the networks don’t say anything. When have you ever seen a photo of Obama with his hand over his heart when the National Athem is being played , or a American Flag label being worn on his suits, when you find one of these photo’s I wish you would send it me. This individual does not represent the United States. And yes I am a retired veteran and am proud that I have served for the freedom of this great county, and many have given their all for our freedom. We do not need this individual to lead, because he shows no abilities that will ever qualify him for this position. I hope all across American will wake up and see this individual is a phony. God Bless American and Our Great President and All Our Great Militay Members who are now serving.
Posted by: Ken | March 20, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Stacey,
Thank you for your post. You did a better job of explaining than Obama. His speech was all about him and his inner demons and conflicts. So very egocentric. It turned me off.
Posted by: marie | March 20, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Warble, you are obviously not a theologian. God D*** America is not a use of profanity it is a declaration of judgement. This society is so caught up in it’s own perverse interpretations that it has all but forgotten the words that appear in the bible.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Syl: If Mr. Obama was not afraid to be associate with the Rev Wright why did he first say that he did not personally hear him make these comments in church now he says he did? Why doesn’t he ask Rev. Wright to do his own explaining? Where is Rev. Wright? When will he be aviable for comment?
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
I don’t think that you achieve the level of success at the political level and ministerial level being a racist. If you listened to Obama’s speech he talked about some of the resentment and anger, the source of it and overcoming it on both sides of the divide. We need to ask ourselves as a Christian nation if we will overcome as stated years ago by M.L.K and again today by Obama. Or are we going to play the divisive politics, religion and hate games of the past. The time for the future and change is now so please listen.
Posted by: Listen | March 20, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
if you vote for OBAMA you will be looking a Rev Wright in the white house i am african american and i am embarrassed of what this man has said especially in front of kids!!! this is terrible!! and OBAMA is hiding something else. He talks about change and that the change is he talking about Rev Wright
Posted by: dorothy bender | March 20, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
So, Obama wants to talk about race. Fine. Let me consult the list of the top five things American voters are concerned about. Oh, what a surprise! Race is not on the list. Why does he want to talk about race? To change the subject! That is what he does when he has no good answers to questions like, “Why do you belong to a church headed by an America hater?” Now, this works fine for the latte drinking elite, but will it resonate with “Joe sixpack”? I doubt it. The top issues are the economy, health care, and Iraq. While Obama is off having a lovely discussion with the editorial board of the New York Times, and while he has given his fans among the intelligencia something new and interesting to talk about, and love him for, the concerns of regular folks, both black and white, are being ignored.
Posted by: David H. | March 20, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
1) What did he hear?
2) How often did he hear?
3) Had he raised any concerns before it went to public, or he was feeling good?
Posted by: The Silent Majority | March 20, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
He lied, joined church for political gain, Then and only then when his hand was forced to he gave a speach.
Throwing your white grandmother under the bus for the world to see and sit with this man for twenty years speaks volumes of Obama character.
People step back and look at Obama, look at his record on the War, he is just another politician that gives good sermons. All talk.
WAKE UP AMERICA OR YOU WILL SEE
AN OBAMA-WRIGHT Ticket
Or worse OBAMA-MATTHEWS Ticket
Posted by: Peter | March 20, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
I am a Democrat and I am disgusted with my party. We always end up with damaged goods candidates. Both Obama and Clinton have skeletons in their closet. Can’t we have a candidate that can run without problems in their past. All the Democrats we have this is the best we could offer. I also think that the delegates in Michigan and Florida should be counted. These are important states that we can not afford to lose in the general election. At this point I just want a Democratic president I don’t care who it is. The two candidates need to humble themselves and unite. Obama has many years ahead to be president. Let Clinton have her turn , after all she is a very intelligent person.
Posted by: Danny | March 20, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Kudos for Lanny Davis for speaking out on this issue. the democrats are so paranoid about a discussion on race that they all have a case of larangitis.
Been a loyal democrat all my life (I’m 53 years old)although the party seldom talks to me anymore (white male. somehow they bought into an ideology that we are the cause of everything that is wrong with America. But if democrats want to win elections they better start addressing the issues that are important to us because we are and have been the backbone of this party.
Posted by: Nick | March 20, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
I asgree with jbonline, I don/t see why the states don’t sue the democrats for trying to surpass the vote and the will of american voter’s. We do not live in a dictator country.
Posted by: sammy | March 20, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
This nation is not ready for the change that Obama talks about if we cannot try to understand what it is like to be a minority in this capitalistic society. To be raised in a society where minorities are refused adequated education because they cannot afford to move to the suburbs. Or the judicial system is more unfair to miniorities than it is to the Anglo-Americans. Where job-opportunities are far and between because jobs have relocated to suburban areas and outside of public transportation. Think about it, lack of education and job opportunity leads to more crime. Cities allowed deed’s to be created that banned black and hispanic people from moving in certain neighborhoods. America’s government has done very little to improve these conditions or to solve these problems in the black and hispanic communities. The US government left Katrina victims who were predominantly black behind for at least five days without any type of assistance or acknowledgement, except from the media. Yet the US government can rush to the assistance of other foreign countries within a hours or a single day.
What about the African American people who faught in the Civil War, WWI and WWII to come back to the same Jim Crowe laws and lack of economic opportunity such as Reverend Jeremiah Wright who served in the US Marine Corp. Do they not have a right to harbor some form of anger and to speak about these injustices in a speech. Should we remain silent and continue to be down trodden by this society that is so blind to their own problems. Or can we take Obama’s challenge and talk about our feelings and experiences of racism, put them on the table and begin to heal by embracing eachother’s diversity. Then we can begin to take on the real enemies, which are the special interests and large corporations that are shipping our jobs overseas and allowing legislators to pass legislation that is only significant to their profits.
Whether you vote for him or not, do you have the courage to take on his challenge of embracing eachother and turning the page on racism? It begins with us and then we can change the way things are done in Washington.
Posted by: BAC-Independent | March 20, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Hmmm….Yesterday, Bubba praises McCain, NYT:”CLINTON PROSPECTS ARE NARROWING,” NO FLORIDA RE-VOTE. I see the Clinton camp is running is scared again, so their resorting to the race card. But the only issue with that is hillary is to linked Rev. Manning. Lanny boy, better stop while he is ahead. He is playing with a bees nest.
Posted by: Frederick | March 20, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Many people think its a shame that Obama can’t win the general now or may even lose the primary. But its not a shame, if anyone is dumb enough to give this Rev. Wright this kind of power then they are dumb enough to have McClain win and they deserve it. White America voted for G.W. Buch twice so it shows you there is no place for intelligent people in our politics the masses just want more hillbillies in office. Kids are dying in Iraq, no jobs for anyone and record high foreclosures, a devalued currency, and smoke and mirror stock market. Everyone is getting what they deserve. A stupid vote makes for a stupid country.
Posted by: gilesjp | March 20, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
I’m am voting for Hillary Clinton regardless if she is the Democratic nominee or not. I can not in good faith vote for a candidate this is saying don’t be a racist but excuses his own life situation as something that is not applicable to his own rhetoric. He outright lied and said he would have walked out of any sermon but it turns out, he’s been sitting there for 20 years listening to this stuff. My convictions are strong as well. If the Democratic Party chooses Barack, then I believe Hillary should run as an independent. Any party that is willing to disenfranchise over a rule technicality is not woth supporting.
This issue goes to the very heart of this election. Mr. Obama gave speech after speech on the Senate floor condemning remarks like this. What a huge hypocrite to sit in on the conversation for 20 years !
HILLARY (I) 2008 !
Posted by: Charles | March 20, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Ken, he got where he is by his accomplishments in some of the worst areas of Chicago. He didn’t start as a politician, he was a community activist that working on the streets with the underpriviledged and brought about enough change to get the attention of the people on a state level.
Here’s a question for you. Why didn’t you know that already? Because you aren’t looking for facts you are looking for opportunities to bash Senator Obama.
We will see if it is over for the Senator from Illinois but given the fact that he was expected to lose PA before this event and is still leading in the polls in IN and NC today says it’s far from over.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
It’s not my responsibility to know Rev. Wright’s “context”. All that’s important is his words in context to me and the USA. In a word, his words are hurtful. Obama should have known better, maybe his judgement isn’t all that great. The Reverands speeches do explain Obama’s wifes comment that she’s finally proud of america. She’s been brainwashed into thinking it’s evil and only now, that her husband is running for President, is she proud. Pitiful.
Posted by: Dave T | March 20, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
By convention-time very few superdelgates will dare support Obama. THAT is how Hillary will win the nomination. It’s simple and it’s certain.
By November, when the US economic disaster has become palpable to voters, McCain, as a Bush surrogate will lose the election. THAT is how Hillary become President. Again, it’s simple and certain.
Posted by: Mark JH | March 20, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Obama lied? Shall we list the Clinton lies? Which one do we start with? There are sooo many…….
Posted by: Sam | March 20, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
People look at the issues – correct!! if you can’t believe Obama about his pastor yes i heard these comments before, no i never heard these comments how do you think he can get the economy back on track when he is a big lier, also superdelegates he says they should vote with the majority where they live if that is the case Kerry,Kennedy did not do it they give him their delegates and clinton won mass. So see he is two sided, he will never ever win the white house he is to weak!!!!!! if you vote for him you are voting for John Mccain, 60% of core democratics will not vote for him espanics will not vote for him, the only way he won all those states was republican and independed crossing over to beat clinton, look when you look at Ohio, and the states she won in it was core demoncratic he will never win those states in the primary because they have and will always be republican states
Posted by: dorothy lundy | March 20, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I am voting for HILLARY NOW and in November.
OBAMA is a sham.
Posted by: maria | March 20, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
What Wright said is highly believed here in Africa;for years our sholars and politicians(Nobel Peace Prize Winners,included) have been claiming that HIV was a man made biological weapon to wipe out africans for their mineral wealth…So many vaccins have been tried on the colonized people of africa and so many dictators were parachuted on the continent by the US,supported until the people couldn’t breathe any more…In Africa,we know the truth.Google africa/hiv/conspiracy…
Posted by: African | March 20, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Well, I finally remembered why I am not a democrat. The entire bunch are crazy.
This year, for the first time in 30 years, I considered changing my party affiliation – from Republican to Democrat. But after watching the continuing side show that has been played out before the eyes of the world, I do not believe that ANY democrat could be successful in leading and running this country.
Take the superdelegates for instance. They are supposed to insure that the party chooses a candidate that can win in November. The choice they have is to choose one of two unelectable people. Hillary Clinton is as unethical and morally bankrupt as a politician can be.
That leaves Barrack Obama. He had a real chance of being elected and changing the course and philosophy of this country. But a single mis-step and he was finished.
Now superdelegates are being asked to look beyond the will of those who have voted and nominate Ms. Clinton. The logic goes that their purpose is to nominate someone that will win in November and prevent another McGovern debacle. Well folks I hate to break it to you, the superdelegates were in place when Mr. Mondale was running and I don’t recall his success at being elected.
If superdelegates did THEIR JOB, they should announce their support – NOW – for Mr. Obama. He leads in delegates, popular vote, and states won. In this manner Ms. Clinton and her demands become insignificant, Obama can concentrate on November, and maybe the Democrats will have a chance to govern.
Posted by: California Convert | March 20, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Obama lied? Shall we list all the lies that the Clintons have been found guilty of? There are so many to pick from!
Posted by: Sam | March 20, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
The truth is the truth; a lie is still a lie. A wolf in sheep’s clothing is still a wolf. And there will always be those to blind to see the wolf just because he charismatic and a fluent speaker. I cannot vote for someone based on their words and charisma, I must vote based on their record and I would say to any who would run for any office “Show me, don’t tell me!” it’s time for someone to stand and be an open book. Truth not allegations. Again, I say “Show, don’t tell”.
Posted by: Jimmy | March 20, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
When Obama becomes President or When Senator CLinton becomes President they will be everyone’s president regardless of personal beliefs. This is the truth of a President. Even to the point of meeting David Dukes and Mr. Dukes not wanting to shake President Obama’s hand because it is a hand of a African American. Obama will still have to deal with this person. Race has nothing to do with the Presidency. That does not say that there have never been racist Presidents. Obviously there have been. So Rev. Wright has the right to say what he wants in America according to the first amendment. Why is America forgetting this fact? I have great respect for both Senator Clinton and President Clinton they know about how the republicans play. They should not join in on any attempt to violate the character of Senator Barack Obama as part of this effort by the McCain camp to cause distraction. McCain knows he will lose against an Obama Clinton ticket. Therefore he will do everything he can to weaken the Enemy??????????????
CLinton and Obama need to stick together on these issues because they are both Democrats and most of all we do not want another 100 years in Iraq…
Posted by: Louis McKenzie | March 20, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
McCain/Clinton 08′. this Rev.wright nonsense is being blown away out of proportion, seriously. Blacks and Whites should have an healthy dialog about race.
Recently, Mike Huckabee said, ‘some in white America are being arrogant.’ Rev.Wrights controversy is not different from Falwell, Hagge and Robertson.
Posted by: Kasandra | March 20, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
No one supporting Clinton should be criticizing Obama. They should be criticizing John McCain. They should be criticizing Bush. They should be criticizing “So?” Cheney. Do they really want another 4 years of this?
Posted by: JoAnne | March 20, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
obama’s favorite US President is Abraham Lincoln.Hey,Obama! This is what Lincoln said. “You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all of the time ” Please don’t keep on trying.Chicago needs you. Go back ! Go back ! You’re ki
lling us.You tried but it didn’t work.
Posted by: ray taylor | March 20, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Birds of a feather flock together. At the end of the day I don’t feel like Senator Obama has answered the question of why we should believe that his real views are of any other color than those expressed by both his pastor and his wife. It causes me some concern when I then ponder the makeup of his administration.
Posted by: jracy | March 20, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Why can’t anyone see that this is a game that is being played by Hillary? Obama tried to hold up the Democrats and Hillary would rather destroy it than let Obama be president. America where is your discernment?
Posted by: Shade | March 20, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
I read some of these comments on the blog and they are filled with so much hate. Barack Obama is asking all of us to rise above it. Can the words of Pastor Wright put food on our table? Can those words return our brave soldiers alive to us? Can those words save the economy on the brink of recession? Can those words alleviate the fears that the Bush administration has instilled by calling code red, code blue, and code orange just to get votes. Please let us do what Barack Obama and the forefathers have asked us to do as “we the people for a perfect union” Read his entire speech on race and open your hearts to the commencement of healing of the human race divide by the colour of our skin. I pray that God will continue to bless and guide the Leaders of this world, to use their judgement and courage to leave a better world for our children. By giving such a pointed speach, Barack Obama has shown that he is one of the bravest politicians of all times.
Posted by: Dorrett | March 20, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Obama is unelectable. The Republicans will tear him apart in a general election campaign. It’s best that the Dems have buyers-remorse NOW, when a change can still be made.
Posted by: anonymous | March 20, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Why is it that Obama supportes were attacking Ferraro as making a racist statement but now that we have Rev Wright’s words we should not take them as we hear them, no we should only understand them if they are placed in some sort of historical context. This is sort of contrdiction that Mr. Obama has when he says that he abhors what was said but sat there and listend to it. Can’t have it both ways! Now lets’ put Ferraro in context!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Anonymous, if Obama is unelectable and leads Hillary by 52% TO 45% in recent polls…what does that make Hillary?
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Hillary has withdrawn her candidacy!!! God is great!!!
Posted by: Brealing News | March 20, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
JoAnne : So Obama is the God, not only the media should be quivering before him, but also the voters?
Posted by: de | March 20, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Anonymous
That is the bottom line the the Super Delagates will have to look at.
The polls are showing drops for obama daily. Whether the MSM wants to report it. It is happening anyway.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
I do not want to get off the topic of this blog entry but I do have a quick question that I need clarified because this point continues to come up over and over again.
When did Sen. Clinton first throw the race card? Many say her campaign was the first to do it.
Please do not mention SC as it was not Clinton’s campaign. It was the media playing sound bites and Donna Brazile (whom I am starting believe she is happy with causing the party to be split) that twisted the “fairy tale” into being something racial.
Posted by: tired_democrat | March 20, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
In TX, Obama won caucus by 10%, but was defeated in popular vote by 4%.
In WA, Obama won caucus by a stunning 37%, but only won the popular vote by 5%.
Should we let him steal the nominee?
Posted by: NoMoreCaucus | March 20, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Another problem for us democrats as evidenced by Jim’s posting. Attack anyone that has a different point of view when you can’t counter the arguement. We use to be a big tenet party of tolerance. Lanny Davis has been a loyal democrat. What happened to my democratic party?
Posted by: Nick | March 20, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Yes, Obama lied. More importantly, he lied and then was held accountable when the truth was uncovered. Take note: Obama did not confess the truth until confronted, he did not change churches during these sermons of hate, he did not stand against this racism (until confronted). What Obama did do was a soft and somewhat coded condemnation of his pastor. Would this have occurred if he had not been caught lying about what he heard, his LONG history with his pastor, and his longtime admiration of Pastor Wright? Obama is a disciple of Pastor Wright and a child of the Wright’s gospel of hate.
Posted by: mcf | March 20, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
In TX, Obama won caucus by 10%, but was defeated in popular vote by 4%.
In WA, Obama won caucus by a stunning 37%, but only won the popular vote by 5%.
Should we let him steal the nomination?
Posted by: NoMoreCaucus | March 20, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Hillary is the biggest hypocrite on earth…one minute she’s crying about how she feels about people not liking her and the next minute she’s playing politics as usual. She is despicable and can’t be trusted.
She allegedly opposed NAFTA but her archives and scheduling shows she was present at the negotiating pushing for the approval.
What a LIAR!
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
NoMoreCaucuses, you failed to mention that he has 700,000 more votes national than Hillary.
The lies of the Clinton campaign are amazing.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Of the things people are saying, two things beyond the obvious lack of honesty and poor judgment have struck me. First, so many people are talking about Obama’s white grandmother who raised him, the way he trashed her in reaching to defend Wright. There are a lot of white grandmothers out there and many others who feel that was way out of line. Second, in Obama’s speech he talks about future generations and getting past the racial hatred. But yet he’s bringing his kids, the next generation, into the pews each Sunday to hear Wright’s hateful sermons. He is handing off that hate to the next generation, not breaking the cycle.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 20, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I don’t want my pastor to be restricted on Sunday morning. This is my hour of freedom in a very politically correct world. Whether you are black or white, who wants to be judged based on ANYTHING your minister says on Sunday morning? I sure don’t. There are larger issues here than those comments. How far do we want to dive into the very personal matters in anyone’s life? Church, organizations, marriages-what’s next? I’m afraid to know!
Posted by: Kimberly | March 20, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Sy: Your statement is totally wrong. Just this morning on radio and tv, recent polls show Hillary ahead of obama 59-52. She has been leading for the last 3 days.
So you know what Sy: Your candidate needs to get out now…OBAMA, your fired”
Posted by: steve | March 20, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Hillary is lying and continues her lies throughout this campaign. First the Obama campaign is alledgly blocking the Michigan re-vote then suddenly it’s discovered that Hillary just doesn’t like the options that Obama supports.
She is as evil as satan himsefl.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
I agree that the race speech didn’t settle some of these questions, but I don’t know that Rev. Wright using the N word is equivalent to a member of the Ku Klux Klan using it.
What do you think?
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I think you do not understand the premise of the question, which was asked in a “if the show were on the other foot and a White candidate had been going to a white supremacist Church that was hating on Blacks, wouldn’t you get up and walk out?”
Posted by: OxyCon | March 20, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Wake up my fellow Americans! This pastor story is being forced down our throats just like all the lies about WMD’s in Iraq. I get the feeling the HRC camp and the RNC are working together on this one. Maybe they do not want to talk about the real issues facing our country. I mean why else would you try to judge a man on what someone else said.
Posted by: Hope and Prayer | March 20, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Steve, I haven’t seen that poll however if it is indeed true I stand corrected as I am using the CNN polls released on yesterday. That said, unlike the Clintons I can actually tell the truth.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Even though I was strongly considering not voting for Obama for other reasons, I HATE that if he lost this election, it was because of the half color of his skin.
Why do people treat blackness like it is a disease or a curse?
People was willing to vote for him until Hillary’s tactics opened America’s eyes of color once again.
What is shameful of it all is that they only focus on his black half, and doesn’t consider his white half, nor that he was raised white.
Posted by: Shade | March 20, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
No matter what the spinners on TV say, this time the American people get it. Just check out the latest polls.
Posted by: tiffany | March 20, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Steve, looks like we’re both wrong. The average of the most recent polls has Obama ahead +3%, 47 to 44%.
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Spread
RCP Average 03/13 – 03/18 – 47.2 44.2 Obama +3.0
Gallup Tracking 03/16 – 03/18 1209 V 42 49 Clinton +7.0
Rasmussen Tracking 03/15 – 03/18 900 LV 47 42 Obama +5.0
CBS News 03/15 – 03/18 LV 46 43 Obama +3.0
CNN 03/14 – 03/16 463 RV 52 45 Obama +7.0
USA Today/Gallup 03/14 – 03/16 530 A 49 42 Obama +7.0
Reuters/Zogby 03/13 – 03/14 525 LV 47 44 Obama +3.0
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
This is the second time that Obama was caught Lying. He was also proven to be hypocrite, remember the Imus incident?
No wonder Hillary is pulling away now (49 -42) in the most recent Gallup tracking poll.
Bye Bye Nobama!
Posted by: joshua | March 20, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I find it interesting that none of my close African American friends adhere to Wright’s teachings nor would they attend his church. Obama speaks for himself not the whole black community. Unlike Obama, the minister that introduced me to Jesus Christ, taught love and respect for all races and economic levels. He taught that as people of faith and as Americans, “together we stand – divided we fall”. God help us that we have someone running for President who’s wife can find nothing about America of which to be proud and who has as a minister and confidant someone who teaches hate and divisiveness.
Posted by: Pondering | March 20, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Just love one another americans!
Posted by: Peace From France | March 20, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
It’s amazing how Obama supporters indirectly blame Bush and Clinton for the things Obama did. Obama did what he did and that’s the end of it. Shooting the messenger or making comparisons to others does absolutely nothing to reduce Obama’s actions and subsequent explanations.
Stop playing mind-games to convince yourselves that he’s innocent because somebody else is guilty of something.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | March 20, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
“1. If a white minister preached sermons to his congregation and had used the ‘N’ word and used rhetoric and words similar to members of the KKK, would you support a Democratic presidential candidate who decided to continue to be a member of that congregation?”
Obama answered this question on Fox News by saying Wright was trying to illustrate the ills of white racism, not necessarily of white people, and that the comparison was essentially unfair.
- T
Posted by: The Uncreated | March 20, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
I feel sorry for Wright the way the media is jsut lynchign him over some 15 second clips taken totally out of context.
Second, I note that ABC spends their time smearing Hillary and Obama, but almost no critical coverage of McCain.
Seems very FoxNews-like.
“Fair and balanced”
Posted by: Jake | March 20, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Rev. Wright is just the tip of the iceberg for Obama.
More shall be revealed. Hopefully before the Democratics mistakenly nominate Obama for President.
20 years a member of Wright’s church? P-L-E-A-S-E: This is truly an Oprah moment; call Dr. Phil; help is sorely needed.
Come to think about it, has Oprah been duping white women all these years???
Posted by: ziggy1570 | March 20, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Belvie: I agree with you. If Obama had an ounce of integrity, he would quit.
Americal will be forever divided if Obama becomes the nominee. What if Obama becomes president?
You will see Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko, William C. Ayers, and Louis Farrakhan at the White House.
Shame on you Obama!
Posted by: Chester | March 20, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
The Democratic Party and the Obama supporters don’t want to admit that these questions are valid. If the shoe was on the other foot, it would be hinted and inferred that Clinton was a racist (remember SC) – and those questions would be validated by the media because, let’s face it, it’s seems to be okay to question and accuse a white candidate of racism, but the kid gloves are on, when the candidate is African-American. The media (other than the conservative nut jobs) will not touch Obama on the issue of race. Just look at the talk show guests discussing this issue in the past week. Listen to the hesitant catch in every pundit’s voice when they broach the subject. White pundits are afraid to be labeled as racist so they shy away from the tough questions. We will never truly have a reasonable race dialog in this country as long as one side of the discussion tip toes around on egg-shells. So now, I’m sure I will hear myself called a racist, simply because I’m pointing out the facts. It’s the easiest way to deflect the discussion to another topic and avoid holding Obama to account for issues he has not addressed, but that will matter in the general election.
Posted by: mhhunt | March 20, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
What I think, is instead of distracting voters with Rovian politics of personal destruction, the Clinton campaign needs to come clean about its own problems for November. A trial on Bill Clinton’s possible fraudulent actions in obtaining campaign funds for Hillary opens April 25th. We need to know a lot more about this! This is a REAL problem for Democrats. not some false guilt by association drama
Posted by: bob10001 | March 20, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Wake-up obama supporters!!
IF he wins the nomination in August get ready to be bombarded by 527′s ads claiming that he is Anti-American him and his wife(for the first time Im proud). When shown next to a man who was a POW in vietnam. Democrats dont have a chance in hell of winning then.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Wright is not a racist. He is a victim of racism.
Sure he is bitter. You would be too!
The irony is America is proving that perhaps Wright was right — America is racist and hates blacks.
Very sad day in America …..
Posted by: JR | March 20, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Hillary has taken advantage of her financial supporters for too long, by grossly exagerating her chances of winning, given the current totals.
The window is alreadly closed. Superdelegates need to make their decisions now, for the good of the party.
Pennyslvania isnt going to make a difference one way or another.
I can understand Hillary supporters wanting to be loyal, but its gotten past the point of irresponsability as both Democratic candidates reputations are going down the tubes while Hillary keeps pushing forward despite the fact that Hillary will not be able to catch up. It is a mathematical certainty.
Posted by: Mike Denhof | March 20, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Why isn’t Hillary’s religious affiliations being looked at? Her ties to the Fellowship look not only spiritual but political. Right wing members of the congress and dictators in South America and Indonesia who are responsible for 100,000′s deaths were also members their main focus seems to be power see Huffington Post, Hillary’s Pastorate. The book comes out in May. If this is truly a fair look at the candidates, all candidates need to be looked at.
Posted by: ra | March 20, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Obama is done. What he should do now is drop out of the race. He has no chance. Period. If you want another Republican president then vote for Obama. No body is going to believe him any more after seeing the Wright’s tape promoting anti-Amarican and God Dxxx America. We don’t want hatred and terrorist all over America. Obama might have concealed his real agenda. We need to act now before it is too late. OUST OBAMA.
Wake up people,
Posted by: Microtek | March 20, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
ziggy1570: You make a good point! Obama will destroy the Democrat Party … and America.
Obama’s speech did nothing to settle the racial and disgusting comments by his mentor and spiritual advisor, the lunetic racist Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Janie | March 20, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I guess the saying is true: east is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet. Hillary supporters will find reasons to support her no matter what. McCain supporters will find reasons to support him no matter what. Obama supporters will find reasons to support him no matter what. But if you dig deep enough you will find the dirtiest of dirt on each of them. People let religion and so-called patriotism issues get in the way of making wise decisions about who they vote for but how we express religion and patriotism is personal for each of us. Going to church does not make me religious or a good person. Wearing a pin on my lapel does not mean I’m a patriot. I have come to dislike Hillary Clinton because of how her campaign is being run and the fact that she truly is a “do-anything/say-anything to get the nomination no matter how much damage she causes” candidate. Her behavior in this campaign has been egocentric and kind of vicious. McCain just plain scares me. The guy can’t even get his facts straight on the issues in Iraq and THIS is a president we can trust to keep us safe? Whew! We’re in serious trouble if he winds up in the White House. Obama, while not perfect, is a really smart guy who is calm, measured, and THINKS. I don’t care about his religion or what church he went to or what his pastor said. I don’t care if he wears the flag on his jacket. Hey, Bush and Cheney wear the pin flag and they are really close to destroying this country with their so-called brand of “patriotism.” My concerns are my paycheck, gas prices, paying my mortgage, bringing our kids home from Iraq in one piece, and being able to pay my medical bills and I honestly don’t give two hoots about any body’s religion or the so-called patriotic ornaments they have on their clothing. Obama will make a truly great president if we give him the chance to prove it. Let’s try to keep the garbage issues where garbage belongs – in the trash bin.
Posted by: Chan | March 20, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
@Syl | Mar 20, 2008 11:07:53 AM:
None of those polls you list actually have Senator Obama with a statistically significant lead over Senator Clinton. You have to look at the margin of error for those polls (which most media outlets conveniently leave out or leave in the fine print). To say Senator Obama is ahead in these polls is deceiving and absolutely incorrect.
The results of the Gallup Tracking poll are of significance because it is the first time in a while that a candidate has been ahead outside the margin of error, meaning that there is statistical evidence to suggest that Clinton is ahead in that poll.
Gallup Tracking | Obama: 39.2% – 44.8%, Clinton: 46.2% – 51.8%
Rasmussen Tracking | Obama: 43.7% – 50.3%, Clinton: 38.7% – 45.3%
CBS News | Obama: 35.8% – 42.2%, Clinton: 33.8% – 40.2%
CNN | Obama: 47.4% – 56.6%, Clinton: 40.4% – 49.6%
USA Today/Gallup | Obama: 44.7% – 53.3%, Clinton: 37.7% – 46.3%
Reuters/Zogby | Obama: 42.7% – 51.3%, Clinton: 39.7% – 48.3%
In layman terms — if the percent ranges for each candidate overlap at all for a given poll, then there is not sufficient evidence to conclude there is a significant difference, aka they are tied.
Posted by: LOM | March 20, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Hey syl,
your posting of the previous polls from last week only showed clearly how the Wright issue had made the Obama bid going downhill.
Last week Obama was leading in almost all of the survey and all of a sudden this morning, Hillary was leading him by 7 points. This is primarily due to this Wright issue.
Definitely, this is the start of the Nobama bid.
Get your popcorn folks and watch how the Nobama campaign ends.
Posted by: Joshua | March 20, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Microtek: You’re right on the money!
America: Wake up and smell the rose.
Obama needs to answer more question which he did not ellude to in his speech. Obama should resign if he truly loves America.
Posted by: Roberto | March 20, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Lanny, if your race was brough in chain and treated as inhumanly as the black were for as long as they have been, I would understand if you were yelling derogatory ramarks as much as Wrigh did, without agreeing with you. But, since you or your race havn’t been through that path you don’t deserve as much understanding.
By the way I am not black..so don’t take it as one-sided criticism from a race opposite of your race.
I have voted for Clinton in 94, but your hypocritical views makes Clintons more hypocritical than they are.
Posted by: moeen | March 20, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I do not attend Wright’s Church because of his tolerance of open homosexuality and support of abortion.
I believe churches should allow homosexuals to attend, with the homosexual adhering to the belief that they are like that because of their sin nature and seeking the Lord to help them obey the Gospel.
I dont believe they teach that at Wright’s church and that is why I do not go there.
The other reasons that is making all of this news, only a person that been through hell can understand what Wright was talking about in his message.
God does judges all, but He does give Grace to those who surrender to it. Believe me, as I been looking at history and looking at today, things don’t seem real just to Black Americans.
Of course, if life has been easy for one race, then they can’t see any of these sufferings. It will take the real power of God in the name of Jesus for a person to understand these sufferings. If a person can take upon the greater sufferings of Christ, then they may understand the sufferings of Black people too.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
“Wake up my fellow Americans! This pastor story is being forced down our throats just like all the lies about WMD’s in Iraq. I get the feeling the HRC camp and the RNC are working together on this one. Maybe they do not want to talk about the real issues facing our country. I mean why else would you try to judge a man on what someone else said.”
Well said.
The GOP thugs are not just swiftboating Wright or Obama. They are swiftboatign America! We are bleeding to death in Iraq, and now our economy is bleeding to death.
Don’t be fooled!
WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION
Posted by: Karl | March 20, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Obama can not beat McCain in the fall. He should do the admirable thing for his party and the nation and drop out and run as VP.
The Wright controversy and his speach have damaged his chances in middle America. While the elite media may praise it and his supporters love it, Politico indicates that it has done more damage than good with swing voters in Penn.
Posted by: beardedmark | March 20, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Greta,
That Ehrenreich (pretty serious) article about Hillary Clinton’s ties to a right-wing religious power structure through ‘The Family’ is also published in The Huffington Post today. It’s creepy and reminded me of Scientology and some of the right-wing Catholic groups that operate in Europe.
I wish people would read more Diderot other enlightened thinkers and get of religion all the way, and CERTAINLY get rid of it in politics.
Posted by: Greta | March 20, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Peace: get real, stop looking at the world through a colored prism. I’ve been a democrat all my life and worked for democrats and certainly not part of a right wing conspiracy
Posted by: Nick | March 20, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Lanny Davis is a lawyer who has been and continues to be looking for any and ALL MEANS to diss Obama. He actually hopes this Wright “hate” thing will be the nail in Obama’s coffin and Davis hopes to be the one to pound it in. I am a white American who personally finds Davis’ rhetoric more offensive than Wright’s since I believe he confirms the obvious evidence that the Clinton “TEAM” will do and say anything to win. That, to me is is shameful.
Posted by: Vince | March 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Sy: The poll results I just put up on this site were the results I heard this morning on “The Morning Joe” Show and also at 9:00 this morning on the Stephanie Miller Show. They both had the same exact numbers: Clinton leading 59-52. Clinton leading by +7.
Stephanie Miller said that these polls showing her leading have been the smae for the last three days.
Stephanie is very upset, as she is an Obama Supporter.
Posted by: steve | March 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
While I am not surprised to see that many of the Clinton supporters and Republicans on this blog are shunning the essence of Obama’s speech and continuallly being divisive on race, I am surprised to see that most of the people trying to defend Obama and the speech are also missing the point and being just as divisive. Instead of doing the same ol’ thing and calling Clinton (or McCain)racist (which is bullshit, I might add); If race is going to be at the forefront (as it seems), let us at least try to have a candid discussion about what the divsions are (present), why they are there (past) and most importantly, How do we coalesce moving forward?
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
The issue about Rev Wright is not about Rev Wright’s freedom of speech (nobody disputes that) nor is it about Obama’s friendship with Rev Wright. The issue here is Obama’s judgment, integrity and leadership. In short, it is about his character. I agree with you, Obama did not address the real questions about the issue. Instead, he is trying to divert our attention to race. This is not about race or color of your skin, this is about Obama lying and getting caught, and now he is trying to spin it.
A side note on race… if we are to move away from racism, we should apply the same standard to every one. One simple way to put it, if Obama and Rev Wright were white, do you think Obama would still be in the race? I doubt it.
Posted by: CP Cook | March 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Hillary has been a proven liar. Her most recent lies about not-supporting NAFTA as first lady is ungorgivable. She has no chance of winning the election and needs to immediately step off. Her only chance will be to destroy the Democratic party by winning. Get rid of the Clintons. 8 years of them were enough.
Posted by: IrishJim | March 20, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Merely because it is not a symmetrical mirror if the tables are turned does not disqualify the question. It’s a very relevant question even insofar as it broadcasts even the inequity of the comparison. We’re adults, we can answer “Yes, but….”
This article is misleading in titling itself “Team Clinton….”
One member of the team who is not speaking for the team does not a team make. The slant of the article is unacceptably disingenuous.
Posted by: Daniel Kany | March 20, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Hannity is not running for president… there is such thing as freedom of speech
Posted by: Nick | March 20, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
“I think you do not understand the premise of the question, which was asked in a “if the show were on the other foot and a White candidate had been going to a white supremacist Church that was hating on Blacks, wouldn’t you get up and walk out?”"
“If the show [sic] were on the other foot” isn’t a valid comparison. Black advocacy is not the black equivalent of white supremacy. African Americans have had a raw deal in this country since the colonial days. Advocating for equality with whites is not the same thing as a white supremacist advocating for a return to segregation, slavery, or lynchings. One is asking for equality and dignity that’s written into the founding words of our nation, the other is advocating crimes against humanity. There’s no apples to apples comparison that can be made here. The whole point of Obama’s speech is that we have to make a better effort to understand that people see racism from different backgrounds and through different lenses. The assertion that Rev. Wright saying “Hillary Clinton ain’t never been called a n*****” or “GD America” for its past sins against humanity and justice is somehow the flipside of white supremacy is patently ridiculous.
Posted by: Chris R | March 20, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I did not get to see the speech on T.V. so I printed the transcript and read it allowed to myself last night. I cried. I cannot tell you why, except that his words moved me in the way I hear Robert, John and most importantly Martin’s word’s moved and lifted up people nearly fifty years ago.
I’ll admit as a 30-year-old white female from the South, that I am tired of all the race comments from both directions. I understand the feelings behind them, but I sometimes am frustrated about hearing about how slavery from 200 years ago is the reason blacks today still cannot get ahead. Correct me if I am wrong, but are not most people on welfare white? Getting ahead in today’s world has nothing to do with history 200 years ago. So many nations have been founded on slavery and nearly people of every race and religion have been enslaved, so my question becomes when does slavery stop being blamed for what is wrong today? When do I stop being blamed for something I had nothing do with? I know people who were part of the civil rights movements had to make great sacrifices to achieve the success they did, so then when is this generation, both black, white, hispanic and asian going to take and build on those successes instead of resting on our laurels?
I don’t know who the right candidate should be for the democratic party. I do know I don’t want another old white republican in the seat as president, no matter how decorated he is. I want a change like so many people my age. I want to prepare for the mass of the U.S. population retiring and having the economic burdens that will rest on our shoulders. I want to have access to healthcare for everyone. I am also tired of worrying about policy and people in other countries when I have children in my own area, who are in every state of this nation, starving for food, basic necessities and the attention of their parents. I want people to start being parents to their children and stop throwing them away. I want the older generation to be respected and not neglected. I want every person of every race of every religious belief to feel like they are a part of a country that they can be proud of and that their voice matters. That’s what I want.
I honestly will tell you if I could vote for any person, I would vote for Colin Powell, as he is a person who deserves my respect and would know how to bring about that change we all so desperately want. Could we just take the best of Obama and Clinton and make a near perfect candidate?
Posted by: T | March 20, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
What are Hillary Clinton supporters so adamant about her candidacy? Because they’re Republicans. Only a Republican who fears a Obama candidacy would be on the blogs, day after day after day making asinine statements about Obama being a racist. Or, their delusional. Do you honestly expect, or feel, that she can win the Presidency? How? She may, but using underhanded techniques or playing on America’s fear of a black man, win the Democratic Candidacy, but that does not make her President. So, how can she win, when so many Americans, including us out of country residents, cannot stand her for what she is? How can she convince the 50 plus percent of the voting population to realistically change their opinion of her and vote for her. When we have McCain, how stands head and shoulders above Hillary in regards to integrity and honesty. So, why? Or, more importantly, how? We are more than adequately aware that the die hard Clintonistas will not support Obama, and neither will the various extremists and racist factions that have lined up on her side of the party. But those numbers will be more than overcome by the many progressives that hate divisive politics, the now engaged youth vote, the independent and cross-over republicans, and the AA vote who will now not vote for Hillary under any circumstance. So, how does she win? I’m starting to get the opinion, based on the comments of a lot of her supporters on these blogs, that they do indeed desire nothing more than the destruction of the Democratic Party, rendering them moot in the General. So tell me, Hillary supporters, why do you think that she can become POTUS, when/if it came down to a race between her and McCain?
Posted by: Larry M | March 20, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Unfortunately, it is the voters/citizens that ultimately lose in all of this. By shifting & focusing the “conversation” on Wright’s controversial remarks, we allow this election to be defined primarily by our anger, fear and resentment rather than REAL issues that WE CAN and must solve: a sinking economy; unemployment; rising healthcare & education costs; a costly war; global warming and on and on and on. We ALL lose when we take our eye off the ball.
I agree that race is an important and worthwhile conversation, but it is not one that MUST frame or define the grave and immediate issues that we must solve as a nation. Right now, it is serving as more of a distraction than anything. I would hope that our desire to work together is greater than our instincts to pull apart.
We ALL lose when we “Willie Horton-ize” Obama. It diminishes ALL of us, all citizens/voters, and robs us of a chance to solve REAL issues and improve our lives.
Just my opinion…
Posted by: Mary | March 20, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Rhetoric after rhetoric after ………..
Is there some way the Dem.s could agree to let Hillary be the Nominee and then ask Obama to be running mate. ?? I may be naive ,but I am certain it would be the best option..
Would that be the surest way to win back the
White House. ?
Oh, by the way,I will vote for McCain if Florida does not give me a PRIMARY vote.
J.P Florida
Posted by: John Pilot | March 20, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Where is Kennedy?…He’s thinking Obama can’t win against McCain. He’ll switch his endorsement privately and if it comes out in the open he’ll say he thought it was only good to do what the Massachusetts voters wanted. He knows how to play the game- that is how he has stayed in power for so long.
All of the powerful elite make me sick. They have disenfranchised Florida and Michigan. They don’t really care about Obama- they were just using him for their own agenda -probably thought they could manipulate him. They didn’t want Hillary because they knew they couldn’t push her around. It wasn’t about her baggage- they knew Obama had baggage too. It’s been out there for quite awhile. They just wanted to see if he could rise above it- if not they’ll switch their votes back to Hillary. It’s all a big game to them and it really makes me sick.
So where is Bradley,Peloshi, Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, Maria Shriver, Oprah? Are they still pressuring the black senators trying to guilt them into dropping Hillary? I sure haven’t seen them in the media since the Pastor Wright issue has been aired. I guess they are laying low and hoping THEY survive it.
Obama should have seen it coming and when they endorsed him he should have said no thanks – I’m all about change and I don’t want your endorsement. But, I guess he was using them too. Politics as usual-
The only hope we have for real change is an independent party.
Posted by: t | March 20, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I think Mr. Davis professionally and politely asked 2 questions that do need to be answered. Obama brought this on himself by not leaving this church and staying for 20 years. He can’t make that go away.
Posted by: Karl | March 20, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Wright’s fiery rhetoric, including his suggestion in one sermon that “God damn America” was more appropriate than “God bless America,” has enraged some voters.
this prompts serious questions about Obama’s patriotism, judgment, and allegiances.
Posted by: wrong | March 20, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
And I continue to ask:
Obama runs on “Change” yet didn’t have the guts or will to change his Reverend’s warped and destructive views.
Obama runs on “Hope” yet he sat in the pews and did nothing while his Reverend told parishioners that there was no hope for them
Obama runs on “Judgment” yet brought his two young, impressionable daughters to a church where the Reverend spews racial division and Anti – Semitism.
Posted by: ch | March 20, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
I have great admiration for Senator Obama. He is the real deal – a genuine statesman. It’s been decades since I’ve seen a politician transend politics and be so honest, so inspiring. He is definately presidential material – level-headed, logical, thoughtful, and inspiring. I can hardly imagine what it will be like to have a statesman as a president again.
Posted by: jay | March 20, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
The title of this particular blog is completely misleading. These questions did not come from ‘Team Clinton’, they came from one of her supporters.
And if many of you can get past your tendency to pounce over anyone who isn’t a rank and file Obama supporter, you might stop to consider the message that Lanny Davis is trying to convey.
He is offering a way for the Obama camp to be proactive about this issue and tackle it head on NOW rather than in the general election, should Senator Obama win the nomination. Senator Obama should want to answer any and all of these types of questions so that when the Republican attack machine unleashes on him, they will have NOTHING on him on this matter.
Even though Lanny Davis is a Clinton supporter, he is actually fairly objective and has criticized the Clinton camp on a number of issues when appearing on a panel of political analysts. He has no problem calling a spade a spade, even if it casts an unfavorable light on his candidate. I can’t say I’ve seen nearly as much objectivity from the likes of Jamal Simmons, et al.
Posted by: LOM | March 20, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Mary
the only people who will lose is the Democrats for having him as their candidate.
obama as a candidate is toxic because there is so many different things and ways he will be Attacked.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
OBAMA’S APPLE TREE WAS SHOOK- SOME OF THE ROTTEN APPLES FELL OUT. NOW INSTEAD OF THROWING THEM AWAY- HE WANTS US TO EAT THEM. IF WE EAT THEM WE GET SICKER. AMERICA IS ALREADY HURTING, WHY SHOULD WE WANT TO HURT MORE. OBAMA THREW HIS OWN GRANDMOTHER UNDER THE BUS WHEN HE CLASSIFIED HER THE SAME AS WRIGHT. HOW CAN WE EXPECT HIM TO DO THE THE RIGHT THING ON THAT 3AM CALL, KNOWING OF HIS POOR JUDGEMENT? OBAMA YOU CAN KEEP YOUR ROTTEN APPLES(PASTOR, WIFE, CHURCH MEMBERS) AND EAT THEM YOURSELF, AMERICA DOES NOT NEED YOU!
Posted by: Linda | March 20, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
John Pilot I would wager that you will be voting for McCain in the fall no matter what. Blame your own legislators who chose to move the Primary in violation of the rules. All candidates agreed to the rules going into the contest. Now the one losing wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. I call that cheating. The simple fact that Rush Limbaugh is begging his lunatics to cross over and vote for Hillary is fact enought to show that the Right Wing would rather face a bitter Hillary Clinton than a Hope filled positive Obama candidate.
Posted by: IrishJim | March 20, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Religion and the church for many has a major importance in shaping they’re identity. When pedophilia was running rampant in the church it was simply swept under the rug for 30, 40 maybe 50 years. No one, I mean No one including politicians were able to believe that their pastor could be involved in child molesting. The victims were consider blasphemers if they came out accusing their priests of pedophilia. None of the priests were held accountable until the cover-up was brought before a judge. The point is most people will not turn on an institution that for the most part has had a positive influence on their lives, even if the pastor preaches divisive rhetoric.
Posted by: James | March 20, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Vanessa — You’re condoning exactly what your leader doesn’t want you to do. How can you continually post that his speech was so inspirational, the best of our generation, yet lack the comprehension of his message?
I don’t get it. I doubt it’s going to have the effect that you want it to, but send stuff off to Fox News if you must.
Posted by: LOM | March 20, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Could someone distinguish between the hate speech of Rev. Wright and (for example) Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell?
Posted by: Brett L. | March 20, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
The fact that Obama takes his young daughters to a church that preaches hate tells us all we need to know about his judgment and outlook.
I have moved over to the Clinton Campaign, I feel that Obama’s hidden agenda’s would be dangerous.
He really does not have the experience and I believe the Republicans could easily win if Obama is nominated. He has a lot of negative baggage more serious than Kerry’s Swift Boat issue.
Americans care about values, and Obama’s values are questionable.
Posted by: Bob | March 20, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Steve, sorry man I had to step away for a second. I have no doubt popular opinion of Senator Obama will decline immediately following an incident like this but he was long expected to lose PA. Overall, this story is going to have little bearing on the primary in IN, NC and other places where he has strong support. Where he will feel the impact is in the independent vote. Surprisingly, some are actually saying this has drawn them to his campaign…go figure but this is politics.
I think he the DNC and Hillary need to figure out how to resolve this entire division issue in the very immediate future or the Democrats are doomed.
Posted by: Syl | March 20, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I just had a idea as to why Obama may had attended that particular church. He is definitely NOT the average black guy, but perhaps by him attending a pro-black church he could better understand black people. He was raised by a white family so he understood the inner programmings of the white person, however he lacked the programming of black people, so he decided to invest 20 years of his life to understand the truth, even though it could be considered extreme.
How could anyone understand how another thinks unless they honestly got to know both sides of the board. Obama was privelaged where he he was able to learn from his family and attend a pro-black church.
I on the other hand didn’t get a chance to learn both sides until I start to feel the sharp end of racism when it was time for me to find work, especially when I had to get married and money became important. People will tell me one thing, but they clearly thought another.
I like these blogs, because it is THE ONLY TIME WHERE WHITE PEOPLE SEEM TO BE HONEST. And I am not generalizing all white people, but I am talking about the system of the way things are set up today.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I think Lanny Davis looks, acts, and sounds like one of those cheesy late night TV slip and fall lawers and therefore perfectly represents the overall tone of the Clinton campaign.
Posted by: Jefferson Madison | March 20, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
A top Michigan Democrat reports that negotiators working to pass an 11th-hour plan for a re-vote in the state are increasingly frustrated with Barack Obama’s failure to either embrace the plan currently being considered, or propose an alternative.
Lawmakers are facing mounting pressure this evening to come up with an agreement before the legislature adjourns Thursday for a two-week recess.
“The Obama people are blocking it in the legislature,” the Democratic source tells CNN, who says that the group has repeatedly and unsuccessfully reached out to the campaign for input and cooperation.
The source says that Obama’s campaign has been asked to craft an alternative or to meet with the Clinton campaign to work out an acceptable compromise, but that those requests have been met with silence.
Obama doesn’t want people to vote?
Imagine that!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Obama can’t be elected. The American People realize he is a race hustler.
Posted by: Truth be told | March 20, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Hillary is about to steal the nomination, Obama is toast.
Posted by: Drew | March 20, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
It is ironic that Barack Obama gave his speech about his association with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. in Philadelphia, the “City of Brotherly Love.” It was troubling that Obama mentioned that he will never disown Wright, who presided over his marriage and baptized his two children.
The fact that Wright has been Obama’s spiritual leader for 20 years while preaching hate from the pulpit is very disturbing.
While Obama is an impressive orator, his conflicting associations speak louder than his words and make us wonder if he can be trusted.
Posted by: Phil | March 20, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
T, Karl & LOM I feel you.
Brett,
Not right now. They’re all busy talking about the 5th anniversary of the WAR. Life goes on.
Posted by: A REAL American | March 20, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
When did this nomination BELONG to anyone? It hasn’t and therefore, it cannot be stolen.
I would like to know which rules are being broken to suggest that a Clinton nomination would be unfairly won?
Posted by: LOM | March 20, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
After reading some of these posts, I’m so glad now I abandoned organized religion years ago. It is not the religion of my youth. It is full of sickness, be it a Baptist Church, a Methodist Church, or a Catholic Church. My sons were raised with true values, those embraced by Muslims, Christians, and Buddists alike: Love your neighbor as you love yourself. Until such time as America gets her sanity back and preachers began preaching about love and tolerance once again, instead of hate, I’ll continue to believe all of this is just rhetoric, self delusion, power grabbing, and hypocrisy.
Posted by: Pam | March 20, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
This blog is exactly why most people are turned off by politics and particularly by the viciousness that democrats discuss their issues. Why do we always resort to calling people names when we disagree. the party is inflicted with a cancerous element that is filled with hate,negativity and intolerance. We will never win an election if we don’t rid ourselves of that element
Posted by: Nick | March 20, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
I agree about the holocaust and reparations, but I just mean that with all we are dealing with right now in this country — I fear more and more distractions and fighting. That’s all.
Posted by: newtreena | March 20, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
God damn America?
God damn America is right! Why?
God damn America for what it has done and continues to do to native Americans, for radical reconstruction, for Jim Crow, for its fascist lobby licking ways that disenfrachize the people, for it’s highest in the world prison population in number and percentage of population, for its shoddy investigation of 9/11, for suspending Habeus Corpus, for spying on its own people, for the Bay of Tonkin sham, for the continuing of imperialist Cold War policies long after said conflict ended….
God damn this America we live in because it’s not my America or the one of my father and my father’s father.
Posted by: Scott Doe | March 20, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Does it tell you that black Americans are really looking at the issues and candidates in a balanced manner when over 90% of them are committed to Obama? The Clintons supported the black communities to no end, for years, yet they are basically dumped as soon as blacks could put forward one of their own.
American whites are accused of the racism yet Obama has millions of whites ready to vote for him.
I am surprised, frankly, that it took so long for little problems like these to surface in the (liberal) media.
White liberals are hoplessly naive to listen to an unknown (Obama) speak idealistic platitudes to them and fall so hard for it. The realities are not quite so assuring as that great voice Obama is blessed with.
Posted by: P.Wilson | March 20, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
To clarify, i haven’t heard him use a term eother than white to speak of whites…so to try and compare it to a pastor using the “N” word isn’t fair…and His political views are his political views…what does that have to do with is religious advisory capabilities…I would like to listen to his WHOLEEE sermon..not these cut up clips that people keep showing…
Posted by: Torrie | March 20, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Big difference between Manning and Wright. Wright was/is pastor/mentor to Obama “like an uncle” and have had extremely close 20 year relationship.
(Nice try, Vanessa).
Posted by: Frannie | March 20, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
This election has become about RACE. There is no other way to interpret what is being posted here. I believe that obama first pulled out the race card with Bill Clinton’s statement, then when it was apparent that it was working, he campaign went full force using the race card – maybe subtly but thoroughly. I am only surprised this followers and the media would not pick up on this. Now that the race card is established and the major issue in this campaign, the USA is divided, thereby paving the way for McCain to be elected. Do the obama followers actually think that the Whites will continue to vote for obama? This won’t happen, they will vote White for McCain. Because the Democrats so unwisely picked the wrong Black candidate to run in this election, they are giving the election to the Republicans. All McCain has to do is sit back (gaffs and all) and watch the Democrats implode, which is what they are doing.
I really don’t believe the general voting citizens care whether or not the Democratic candidate is White or Black, what the general voting citizens WANT is honesty and someone to lead them out the the Bush mess. Obama has shown that he will not do this; that he will continue to support the desires and beliefs of his pastor, of his church’s policies and his indoctrination of these policies.
What obama has started cannot be repaired unless he drops out of this race. I hope that he does drop out within the next few days, even with all his accumulated super delegates. He accumulated these delegates before this relationship and worship of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was made public. Obama may still get the nomination due to the Democrats being so fearful of being labeled Racist, but he will never get the election. Do you think the Republicans fear obama? In no terms.
Posted by: Lou | March 20, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
We are witnessing the melt-down of the Obama-nable snow people!
Posted by: doofus | March 20, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
barack hussein obama lied. he condones racial hatred. why the double standard.
Posted by: VIC FERRARA | March 20, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Bret asked: Could someone distinguish between the hate speech of Rev. Wright and (for example) Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell?
I am not a supporter of Jerry Farwell but what I do know that he apologized for the remarks he made. Wright makes no such apology. Again, I am aginst Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell but at least they made the apology when they were wrong. I also never heard Pat Robertson say God D* America or 9/11 is our fault.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
The real fear for me and my children is the chilling effect of the media and politics as usual. Obama represents a fresh voice in American Politics. For the first time in a long while we have a Presidential candidate that promises to bring American’s together to collectively face serious issues that are threatening America and our global environment. Obama is practical, genuine, willing to listen to all sides and unwilling to undermine or disparage his opponents. If Obama loses his bid for the Presidency my faith in the American political system will be vanquished and I while I am a liberal and a democrat I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Her willingness to resort to a campaign of distortions and demagoguery is disheartening. One has to wonder if the light has gone out for democracy in America.
Posted by: Robert J. Latham | March 20, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
unfortunately, while Mr. Davis read the speech, he didn’t understand it. Perhaps it was over his head.
Senator Obama clearly denounced the offensive comments. He stayed with the Church and the Reverend because that’s how he found Christianity, and because of all of the good lessons he learned, all the good sermons he heard, and all of the good works of the ministry. Just ask the 8,000 plus members and all others who have heard Rev. Wright speak over the past thirty-plus years. Or ask others of other churches/synagogues, etc. why they stay even though they don’t agree with everything their church or syagogue says or promotes.We can be small minded and pick this apart ad nauseum, or we can, as Senator Obama suggests, look to the common ground, learn from our pasts, and move ahead. If Mr. Davis represents the Clinton campaign, they apparently has no interest in building and improving and looking towards reaching our ‘perfect union’.
I feel sorry for them and their limitations.
Posted by: bernie | March 20, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
American, he just LIED right to you faces. Looked right into the camera, said he would have gotten up in the sermon and left. He LIED right into the camera and said “of course” he was there nodding his head for 20 years !
His message is appealing but this messenger is seriously flawed. He stood on the senate floor bashing other men for their fiery hateful rhetoric while at the same type nodding his head to “God Damn America” type sermons.
He is the one who delivers the speeches but he is not the brave one who refuses to sit at the back of the bus. He is the one who gives speeches against the Iraq war while others actually “march” on the street and get arrested and take action against the war. His is a man of endless words and very little action
Posted by: Charles | March 20, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I’m shock and sadden by the words of many in this post and others that I have read.
Many people are saying things that they saw and heard on TV, without researching for the truth on their own. Selecting a candidate on the words of the media is a huge mistake. Do not follow the media, do not be a sheep, be your own voice.
There is an amazing opportunity here to elect a brilliant leader. The world is watching.I Hope America makes the correct decision.
Posted by: William | March 20, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I agree with the posts that Obama first brought in RACE CARD into the democratic nomination contest when he and his supporters attacked Bill Clinton in SC. I watched Bill Clintons recent response to his comments in SC and I confident that he wasn’t bringing in RACE into the campaign but was simply making the observation that African Americans would vote overwhelming for Obama because they have been waiting for viable candidate to do so similar to Jesse Jackson. I don’t see anything wrong with that – it is just Bill Clintons Observation.
NOW FOR OBAMA to attack BilL Clinton when he knowing had Wright on his campaign staff is ABSOLUTELY **** DISGUSTING **** It makes me sick to my stomach. AND THen days before the Obama Wright scandal broke he was attacking Ferraro. Ferraro’s statements were wrong but tame in comparison of what Wright said and Wright was sitting on Obama’s campaign staff.
AMAZING!!!!! I am sick of all this crap!
Posted by: john smith | March 20, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I am sooo sick of the Rev. Wright snippets!!! IF you are old enough, TRY to remember the absolute worst things YOU’VE said. Now imagine them in video snippets played over and over and over again. Would expect your friends of 20 years to disavow, and disown you? Be honest. Now imagine that you have a friend running for office, and your images are played over and over , and over again. Is that a fair ,or further than a country mile, assessment of your character?
The media does not delve any further into Rev. Wrights character, accomplishments, or church, other than these snippets. Wake up people!
Do you really think that Rev. Wright could build and carry a congregation of 8,000 over 30 years, if he was only as the media has portrayed him?
Here is an opportunity for you to investigate for your selves. Just maybe you could gain some understanding of something out of your comfort zone. All you have to do is go to the Church web site. You could start a dialogue, and give THEM some insight out their comfort zone as well.
ABC news and Fox news are the WORST offenders. Cnn runs a vey close third. The best political team my patootie. They should be called shock and awe, the way they run their screens
I don’t understand how they get away with this.
They are not fooling the majority of we Canadians, or other countries overseas.
In fact, they come off as clowns of their created media circus.
If these so called reporters do not understand what Obama could get out of a preacher like Rev. Wright, they have never done their job on race relations. They CERTAINLY aren’t doing it now. Where is the investigation? Have they EVER set foot in a black church?
It’s much easier to sit on their collective rear ends, play clips, and have their so called pundits yell and holler about it. “if MY preacher said that I’D walk out!”
This repeated rolling over of these sound bites is nothing short of brainwashing, and the media knows it. America enjoys being controlled by the media, America it seems , wishes to remain racist and bigoted to the bitter end. The world IS watching, and to use the words of Rev Wright ” the chickens will come home to roost in Americas front yard”.
Posted by: Martha Davidson | March 20, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
The Clinton campaign could not effectively attack Obama the man, so they have decided to attack everyone around him instead. What a brilliant strategy. The American people are so gullible.
Posted by: truth serum | March 20, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Lanny is right,…when will these questions be asked? The general election? Do it now!!
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Clinton is done! The GOP is done! You losers just don’t want to accept it. Stop getting your hopes up, which you shouldn’t have anyway since Clinton mocks hope.
This “vetting” WILL NOT stop the “MOVEMENT”. Obama is not losing his support. He is gaining because he is looking more and more presidential. His support is growing. We knew it was a matter of time before the wolves would come out to eat.
What you still don’t get is this powerful phrase:
“NOT THIS TIME”!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tre | March 20, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Robert J
What does Clinton have to do with obama’s pastor being Anti-American, Michelle being only now proud to be american, obama not wearing a flag pin.
That you are willing to put the blame on Hillary for obama losing the election by his on actions.
Posted by: toby | March 20, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Barack is not qualified to be President.
Posted by: Frannie | March 20, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
john smith, the MEDIA attacked Bill Clinton regarding his comment….
to mention Jesse Jackson winning SC back in 1984 and 1988 sounded like he was trying to place Obama in the ‘black candidate box’.
If he was just merely talking about candidates winning the state, why not mention the more recent wins by Edwards or by Kerry? No, he mentioned Jackson, from years ago. If you think that wasn’t done on purpose then you probably shouldn’t be voting.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 20, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
The story here is not about Wright but about Obama’s relationship with Wright. In my opinion, Obama is free to attend whatever church he chooses. But in this case, Obama also chose to bring Wright into the fold of his presidential aspirations by including Wright (and his hate-filled opinions) as an advisor to his political campaign. THAT is what illustrates what at best could be called Obama’s poor judgement. At worst, it could illustrate Obama’s own perspectives. Either way, this issue alone is enough for Obama to lose my support and vote in our state’s upcoming primary.
Posted by: WV | March 20, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
William states:
” Many people are saying things that they saw and heard on TV, without researching for the truth on their own. Selecting a candidate on the words of the media is a huge mistake. Do not follow the media, do not be a sheep, be your own voice.”
BUT I SAY TO WILLIAM: I read many pro blogs from Obama Supporters AND I have the same feelings as you – the Obama supporters blindly repeat all the nonsense that the media gives them in his speeches. The Obama supporters are caught up in the media hype and nothing more. Most are young and I can understand why they blindly repeat the media pundits.
Posted by: Jake smith | March 20, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Frannie,
Barack Obama IS qualified to be President.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | March 20, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Obama served 8 years of State Senate and 2 years as a Senator. Not to mention his host of services done for the community. What makes him less qualified than Hillary other than Hillary being a First Lady?
I only support Obama now, because this whole situation is unjust.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
It’s all about Judgement,..Obama cannot run on his “Superior Judgement” when his judgement is so horribly flawed!!
He is done,…
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
TO WV:
It was Obama supporters (pundits and his campaign) that attacked Bill Clinton as a RACIST. Even Obama in his speech on Tuesday looped in Bill Clinton again!!!
I suggest that you Give BIll CLinton the benefit of the doubt. Please see his recent interview where he discusses the attacks by Obama on him in SC. BIll was simply making an observation that African Americans got excited about their candidate once Obama won in Iowa and that he had become a viable candiate to win the nomination similar to Jesse Jackson. He notes Jesse Jackson as this is exactly what happened in that previous election. I See nothing wrong or RACIST about that. Obama put their media pundits out there to unfairly attack Bill Clinton on this. AND ALL ALONG OBAMA had this RACIST WRIGHT on his campaign.
DISGUSTING!!!!
Posted by: John Smith | March 20, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Take a look at Obama’s speech in WV today,notice any thing different. Well it is the non subtle use of the american flag that he refuses to wear. It appears that since Sermongate broke he is now prepared to wrap himself in the flag. Glad to see it! Maybe he can convince his wife to and Rev. Wright too!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Obama is toast. As a blackman, the issue
is going to resonate well with the
superdelegates. Why? Thats why they are
in the position of being superdelegates.
Even if Obama did distance himself from
Rev Wright, the damage was done. “God
damn America” from Rev. wright is the
nail in OBama’s coffin. No eloquent after the fact speech can change American’s patriotic zeal for love of
God and Country in both parties.
Recall that candidate Obama is the one
candidate who attacked the establish-
ment when he jumped in the lead. Now
Obama wants the same establishment to
bail him out. Shows lack of judgement,
moral, and experience here. The
Republicans will bury this speech in
November with Willie Horton once more.
Posted by: fitzroy | March 20, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
Why you lie Obama? Obam why you lie?
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
His judgement is flawed when he chose to seek out his black roots through a pro-black church.
Yeah I guess his judgement is flawed.
I only support Obama now because this whole situation is unjust.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
HILLARY CLINTON CAMP SHAME ON YOU WHY DESTROID THE PARTY YOU GONNA LOOSE ANYWAY. REMBER THIS MAKE A DIRTY POLITICS AGAINST OBAMA AND NOVEMBER NO BLACK GONA VOTE HILLARY SHAME ON YOU
Posted by: ERIC BARTHEL | March 20, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Indeed they are NOT the same in using N word, it is well-known that some words can be said by only blacks.
Yet Davis’ argument doesn’t need this one to make his case. The pastor’s hateful words are many. In addition, as I said earlier, if GOP talks more on the stand of patriotism, rather than race, which is clearly possible, Davis’ arguments stand firm and cannot be avoided. No presidential candidate wants to tell people that the God-damn-America pastor is his/her spiritual leader for 20 years and he/her has done nothing to “change” him.
Posted by: Victor | March 20, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
This is the judgement,…Lie!! Always the double standard.
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Obama is not qualified to be president even before this Obama-Wright scandal broke!
The Obama-Wright scandal has simply and profoundly disqualified the man to be the democratic nominee.
Obama is down in recent polls by 5% (Hillary is at 47 to Obama 42) taken this week. Obama is also in a tie and deadheat now in NC. If Obama loses NC, then this would be directly a result of the poor judgement of taking his family to a church filled with anti-american language. I feel sorry for the 9/11 family members who had to sit in their homes and watch this on TV about God D* American and that 9/11 is American’s fault.
I am sick to hear such crap and how Obama is not and kept this man on his staff is poor judgement at the very least.
Posted by: Jeremy Wright | March 20, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Just saw a bumper sticker today that said: Goddamn America: Vote Obama 08. This is just the begining!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
While I am not surprised to see that many of the Clinton supporters and Republicans on this blog are shunning the essence of Obama’s speech and continuallly being divisive on race, I am surprised to see that most of the people trying to defend Obama and the speech are also missing the point and being just as divisive. Instead of doing the same ol’ thing and calling Clinton (or McCain)racist (which is bullshit, I might add); If race is going to be at the forefront (as it seems), let us at least try to have a candid discussion about what the divsions are (present), why they are there (past) and most importantly, How do we coalesce moving forward?
Posted by: J | March 20, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Barack hussein obama is wrong for staying at that church for 20 years.
Posted by: vic ferrara | March 20, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Walt: I can tell you one reason is not that she does not love her country!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
obama should do the right thing. drop out now, clean up his act and try again in 4 years.
Posted by: jim randazzo | March 20, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
With every fiber of his being Obama DOES NOT want race to be an issue of this campaign, but Hillary is doing a masterful job of dragging him into it.
Hillary and Obama both know that if the campaign becomes about race he loses.
Posted by: truth serum | March 20, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
truth serum: I don’t think Hillary made those hateful sermons and then had the gall to make a profit on them! This problem is the making of Rev. Wright Obama supporters can’t blame her for his hateful, racist, anti-americian sermons. This was of there own making!
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Can we all remember that Obama is mixed, he is 50/50 raise by his white side not his black side, I think we all forgot this about him. Media only allows us to see him as the black man
Posted by: Antoine | March 20, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
truthserum, that is exactly what I have been trying to say all of this time.
Demographically, Hillary should be winning and it was burning her up that she is losing.
She came in with great pride that she will beat Obama, it was even evident with Clinton’s remarks.
Right at the checkmate point, Hillary sold her soul to the devil by bringing race into this equation, thus causing the REAL strife in the Democratic campaign.
I can’t even vote for Hillary because she will do ANYTHING to win. It is not about the benefit of this country, but it is HER own benefit, and people are selling out because of RACE.
I only wish we lived in a world where Color was not an issue.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Obama delt with the Wright issue only when he was losing gnd. in the polls & what he did was “brave”! Do the media & political spin drs. mean
“Marine brave”?
When I heard Wright’s paranoid, racist, hate message I was concerned. When I heard Obama & black ministers attempting to justify Wright’s hate msg. as normal in black churches around the country I became alarmed!
How many USA citizens alive today know someone that owned a slave or was a slave? Time for a new msg. & to let the successful black youth hold their heads up for their successes.
Obama may not be a racist, but clearly he is a politician and will say anything thing or associate with anyone toward winning the nomination. The winds of controversy from Obama’s association with, & vow to continue to associate with Wright, makes it difficult for him to balance between the black voters & the non-black voters on his quest for the White House.
The real issue arising from this campaign is the way the national political parties have made an end-run around The Constitution by making rules that allow a few small States to vote early & filter the candidates available for the vast majority of citizens to chose from. Seems like the news media covered the recent Russian election making special note that the selection of candidates was hand picked. Sounds like what the DNP was expecting before the media realized how much money was available if the nomination process was stretched out. And Calif. & Texas think they had real choice.
Respectfully,
Billy Bob, Florida
Posted by: Billy Bob | March 20, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Mike: How can there be foregiveness if you refuse to admit that you have sined! So far the Obama campaign has put Rev Wright into hiding and he will not come out and answer any questions. If the Rev admits that what he said was wrong and ask for foregiveness then I think most people will. Unfortunately I don’t think that is going to happen.
Posted by: russell | March 20, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Wright is racist. Obama clearly lied about knowing the statements that Wright made. He should of cut all ties when he heard Wright preaching hate.
This is a matter of judgement and their ain’t no way that Obama has it.
Posted by: qster | March 20, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Obama is definitely NOT our savior.
I only support him now because this whole situation is UNJUST.
Let him lose out of something legitimate, not because of his half blackness.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
How can Obama says that he will UNITE the country when in fact he was listening and defending his hate mongering pastor for the past 20 years and did nothing to convince his pastor to take out his hate amongst white.
Sorry, NObama you are BUSTED.
Bye Bye Nobama!!
Posted by: JOSHUA | March 20, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
You know….I could probably go back to supporting Obama IF the Rev Wright apologized for his comments (and not in a wishy-washy sort of way, either).
If he does, then I’d be OK with Mr. Obama.
If not, I guarantee he will not be the next President. Hands down.
People just will not accept him staying friends with someone who will not revoke their racist and anti-american comments.
It just won’t happen. Wish all you want, but it won’t.
Posted by: Dem Voter | March 20, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
I am a previous Obama supporter who will never vote for Obama again. Obama has proven himself to be a doubletalking con artist who uses his silver tongue to defend a racist, ignorant, mean-spirited, hate mongerer. His speech was not uplifting or inspiring. It was infuriating. And to think I gave money to Obama’s campaign in the past. I am voting for McCain. That is all.
Posted by: Tom | March 20, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
The Clinton campaign has decided to
attack and destroy everyone around Obama and then use guilt by association.
It is a brilliant strategy to take advantage of the natural human need to feel fear and anger toward something.
Rev. Wright was the weak link they were looking for.
She is ten times more ruthless than Obama.
Posted by: truth serum | March 20, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I suppose Clinton’s manipulating poor me tactics have once again worked and are cont. to work. Instead of blaming others, ignoring the situation or rationalizing, Obama confronted this Wright situation head on. Unlike the tactics of the Clinton’s. LIE LIE and more LIES or ignore, blame others. He took responsibility, and that is something we have NEVER seen the Clinton’s do. If Hillary was so involved in Bill’s admin. where was she during the genocide in Rowanda, Monicagate?????????? She has been conned by the last two presidents, Bill with the monicagate and Bush with the Iraq War!!!! Great leadership and judgement!!!!!!
Posted by: melissa | March 20, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
jerry,
that is more than the clintons’ or
bushes’ have ever done!!!
Posted by: melissa | March 20, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Team Clinton has finally joined perhaps the most important Discussion of Our Time; Race, Religion and Politics (human affairs)as put forward by Barack Obama. Lanny Davis was correct; Obama’s speech on race was brilliant, Lanny should have stopped there. However, Lanny goes on to say “Rev. Wright’s sermons, one could call them racist”. Lanny lists two reasons not to Vote for Obama because of this.
1.) Yes Lanny, Mitt Romney a Presidential candidate did not leave his Mormon Church that regulated blacks to nothing higher than members of the choir. Watch some Rev. Warren Jeff’s (off shoot of Mormon Church)vedio sermons if you want to hear some explicative chigga bo, black n_ggar language. Mitt addressed his Church history as did Obama, and he did and should not leave his Church.
2.)While you were looking at The Huffington Post you should have seen where Rev. Mike Huckabbee, Governor and respected Theologian and Preacher understood and defended Rev. Wright’s so-called controversial comments.
Finally, we are glad to see Team Clinton has taken up the “personal” challenge on Race and Religion as most rightly guided Americans have enthusiastically embraced accepting Obama’s call to action. Obama 08, Change we can Believe in, Judgment we can Trust.
Posted by: Fareed | March 20, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
We all are quite judgmental. We’d cringe if someone blasted us like we blastObama. But he’s withstanding the pressure. It’s amazing how when other’s violate our order, we want blood. But when it’s us on the judgment seat…we want forgiveness. Your turn is coming. Mark my word.
Posted by: Realist | March 20, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Jerry, why would I get offended by truth?
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Ed,
This is all Hillary’s doing. Review the whole campaign and you will see that she is the one that bought out the race card and she is the one destroying the Democrats.
Obama ALWAYS said in keeping things on topic, but Hillary is the one that persisted in attacking him.
I only support Obama now because this whole situation is UNJUST.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
I shutter to think how Obama was able to win me over….. I have my eyes and ears wide open now… VOTE HILLARY !!!!
Posted by: jlunz | March 20, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
I do not have a racist bone in my body. obama can not be trusted. he has lied. he does not want us to know his full name. he don’t want to admit his muslim background. he is too liberal. he wants to raise taxes, he is a socialist, he will destroy the best health care system in the world. he hates the country and the military… I can go on all day.
Posted by: willy hernandez | March 20, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Like many AAs in Chicagoland, I attended Rev. Wright’s services. I went once and never returned. He is not the only voice of Black America, and Barack Obama kbows it. Nevertheless BO chose to raise his children in a Christin environment that perpetuates divisiveness and anger. Most countries have a history that includes racial and or ethnic divide, but few have made the gains seen in the US. Racism exists but many AAs are still proud and patriotic. It is disappointing that Mr. Obama chose to ally himself with a spiritual advisor who clearly lacks hope and faith in the very CHANGE he campaigns for.
Posted by: juliet | March 20, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
While the questions do serve to point out a double standard, it clouds the issues of patriotism, extremism, and judgment. It is deplorable that Rev. Wright’s rhetoric is so divisive based on race. But the bigger problem, to me as a voter, is whether a candidate who financially supported and aligned himself with such extreme and hateful rhetoric for over 20 years can represent me and my interests. A speech, albeit a beautifully nuanced and calculatedly feel-good speech, given 20 years too late do not allay my doubts.
Posted by: Misty | March 20, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Let’s get real. Supporters of Clinton are desperate for rationalizations for the supers to go against the voters. The best they can come up with is something offensive that someone else said, years ago, that Obama didn’t hear, that he denounced when he became aware of it, and that deciding not to leave his congregation is a sign of “poor judgement”. Give me a break. No one – NO ONE – except someone who already does not support Obama will accept that as an excuse – period.
So where’s the argument that the supers should override the will of us Obama suporters?
The Clinton team is ruthlessly professional, and will spin this well. I hope for the sake of this country that they don’t succeed.
Posted by: John from CA | March 20, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Racisim is racism is racism and until we hold everyone to the same standard things will never change.
Posted by: Firefighter | March 20, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
There may be a lot of bad things to say about team Clinton but at least they, unlike a certain learned journalist, have not linked Obama supporters to Charles Manson.
America will get the leader it deserves. I hope your sons won’t have to fight Israel’s next war.
Posted by: Reginald Avery Wilkins, Ph.D. | March 20, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
dont blame clinton for race card. wright made those speaches, obama supports wright. obama’s wife spoke hate about america, obama gets support and condones the rantings of faracan and sharpton and jesse. the liberal press should have been covering this for a year now but they are bias. if there is an issue they can’t blame on bush they dont mention it.
Posted by: willy hernandez | March 20, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Mr. Wizard, that is media stuff. I am talking about actual sermons from Wright’s church.
I have never been inside Wright’s church, but I can go there today to acquire any information to find out the truth.
My perspective about Wright is that he is angry about injustice, but it is hard for me to swallow that he call white people “white devils” and such.
If anyone gives me proof of that, I will go there today, verify all of it, and I will no longer support Obama because it will be hard for me to believe also that he can sit there 20 years and listen to a man bash his white heritage and be normal.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Anyone that thinks that Obama even remotely belives that old school black mentality of Rev. Wright just doesn’t get it.
Every black man in America knows dozens of old black people that think like Rev. Wright.
Obama just wants the Wright issue to go away so that he can talk about real issues but there is now way on gods green earth tha Hillary will let him.
Anyone that thinks that Obama even remotely believes that old school black mentality of Rev. Wright just doesn’t get it.
Every black man in America knows dozens of old black people that think like Rev. Wright.
Obama just wants the Wright issue to go away so that he can talk about real issues, but there is now way on gods green earth that Hillary will let him.
Posted by: truth serum | March 20, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I think that the tapes when viewed across the board are fatal. Since most Americans would have either stood up and left or worked within the ministry to change the tenor and sometimes deceitful message that this Rev was putting out.
And it is a BIG issue. The media is kind of talking about how this will hurt Obama when he has denounced the words without being specific…Who are they kidding? Themselves maybe/
It is important to understand that a lot of us still believe in our country and fairness and equality.
And if you take people as symbols then Obama is supposed to win on this one. The media and the Democratic establishment have most certainly taken Obama and Clinton as symbols in this race.
The people however, look at this differently. Clinton started this race with the negative numbers created by years of attacks from Republicans and the constant reminder that her husband had humiliated her and she stayed.
But the reality is the Clintons despite being smeared with the “race card” by the Obama campaign and a willing media believe in the people.
So she keeps fighting. And people that she has worked with to make a difference fight with her. Whatever Hillary is or is not she has made a difference for the better in real people’s lives.
Obama on the other had embodies an idea that he seems to be missing. He could not stand up in his Church through deference to Wright. He could not stand alone without Rezco.
He does not understand that this truly is not a game. He does not understand that by being a part of the “race card” smear of the Clinton’s and Ferraro that he has crossed the line of right and wrong. He doesn’t understand that it is not because he is Black or an underdog.
The American people truly do have greatness and hope at their core. And Republicans have no corner on the “family values” market. We want a president who is there for all of us. And we wonder where he was in his own church. I think it’s a question that Obama himself cannot answer.
I think it’s time to stop blaming racism or the “Clinton machine” To unite the people and our party Obama is going to have to stand up and it’s not to give a speech…it’s to let the people vote in Michigan and to reach across his campaign and stop whining that Hillary has somehow caused his problems.
If Obama stumbles on to get the nomination then McCain has a free ride to the Whitehouse…It’s not Wright or Rezco it’s the fact that Obama doesn’t understand the people he seeks to lead.
Posted by: Jackie | March 20, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
what about her christianity family group..don’t curse someone when u have sheleton in ur bed…uh…i can’t trust politicians
Posted by: joules | March 20, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
This is reprehensible. I understand that politics at this level can lead to ruthless, opportunistic behavior. But for the Clinton campaign to try to gain advantage from the Jeremiah Wright flap in an active way is shameful. If anything, they should attempt to defuse this issure (since a rational treatment of race in America should be a core, transcendent value for all democratic candidates). If it is perceived by blacks and liberals that the Clinton campaign actively took advantage of this issue, it may cost them (should Hillary be the candidate) in November. I am a lifelong democrat, but I doubt that would vote for her in the general election if she helped use race as a bludgeon against Obama
Posted by: Peter Sher | March 20, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
ok lets talk issues, hussain obama is wrong on healthcare, he was not in the senate when they had the war vote so how could he vote for it.he is wrong on the war. he is wrong on taxes, spending, entitelment programs, education, social security, and the military. he is wrong on judges and would not say the pledge sing the star spangled banner of wear a flag pin.should i keep going
Posted by: john ringers | March 20, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
If it takes him 20 years to figure out his pastor is a bigot …how can we trust his judgement on anything.
Blah Blah …Hope.. (hate)… Blah Blah… Change.. (same old thing)… Blah Blah … Hope and Change..( just another politician)… Blah!
Posted by: Michelle | March 20, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
This a total wedge issue.
No one is talking health care
or the economy
or Iraq.
The Clinton campaign know that people flock to this stuff like flies to feces
Posted by: truth serum | March 20, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
obama said nothing about reparations, timmons. He acknowledged white angers and fears as well. Slavery may be finished but racism obviously is not.
Posted by: david surlaw | March 20, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I’m glad sane people are actually dissecting his speech. He should ask his advisor for a refund. He thinks having a 35 minute speech is going to end racism?
He needs to disengage relationships with Wright or disengage his relationship with America.
Why doesn’t he go run in Kenya, they seem to need some change? There at least he can have Wright as his advisor.
He’s pathetic, a disgrace, degrades what America has accomplished, and he and Michelle needs to move out of this country.
Posted by: Jesse | March 20, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
The real issue is electability. Hillary warned voters MONTHS ago that Obama had not been vetted – and she proved right. Anyone who truly follows politics knows that – regardless of what might be written & debated here – the Republicans will tear Obama apart with this issue in the general election.
Posted by: anonymous | March 20, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Jane,
Back up your response about Wright being hatred?
His statement about God presenting judgement is desire justice, not hatred.
I would rather God bring forth Grace, but I believe Grace is for those who are willing to receive it and repenting from their sins.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Shade,
Reverend Wright preaches as if we’re living pre-Civil Rights. He’s stuck in time and he needs a wake up call.
Only those in his congregation are believing in his preachings. The last I checked, African Americans and Whites are not the only race in America.
Also, Africa is not the only continent in the world.
So Wright’s preaching is hippy talk.
Posted by: Cary | March 20, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The only way Obama can be torn a part by the Race/Wright issue is if American people has not changed since the 60s, 70s. I believe America has came together and improved on race relations. Clinton said Obama was not electable because of the race/Wright issue and he hasn’t been vetted on this issue. I believe America has not been vetted on race relations…when Obama get the nomination America will be vetted on race and we will see how much she has improved since the 60s. I believe America will pass the test and elect Obama ’08.
Posted by: roqstar3 | March 20, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
anonymous,
We wont know if that is the case until Obama get’s there. If he lose, let him lose because of another issue. Not because of his half blackness.
I only support Obama now because I believe that this situation is UNJUST.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Well said Anthony!
Posted by: kevin | March 20, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
Why’d you lie Obama?
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Again, the real issue is electability. Hillary warned voters MONTHS ago that Obama had not been vetted – and she proved right. Anyone who truly follows politics knows that – regardless of what might be written & debated here – the Republicans will tear Obama apart with this issue in the general election.
________________________________________
AMERICA HAS NOT BEEN VETTED ON RACE RELATIONS.
When Obama wins the election Americans will prove that madup issues like race/Wright cannot stop the Unity and Change Obama and American people is working together towards. Obama ’08!!!
Posted by: youngvoter | March 20, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
America is not ready for any kind of change, seems like the majority of people on this blog is satisfied with the crumbling housing market thats effecting all races,a crashing economy that effecting all races, damn near $4 a gallon for gas thats effecting all races, fighting a damn war that don’t make no sense and is draining this country and once again thats effecting all races, I don’t care about any of the candidates short comings, Barack, Hillary and McCain all have them, my only concern is how do we fix this damn mess, Wake up people and quit thinking so small minded, we have major problems and all I”m hearing about these days is Obama pastors speeches, Hillarys papers and John Mccains extramarital affairs…..The problems we have in this coutry don’t give damn about your skin color..but it’s going to take all of our skin colors the either come together and fix or we are all DOOM!!!!!
Posted by: Cedric | March 20, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
if I was a racist, I have a god given right to be one just like wright,farakan,sharpton, and jackson but I am not running for president.
Posted by: timmons | March 20, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
America is not ready for any kind of change, seems like the majority of people on this blog is satisfied with the crumbling housing market thats effecting all races,a crashing economy that effecting all races, damn near $4 a gallon for gas thats effecting all races, fighting a damn war that don’t make no sense and is draining this country and once again thats effecting all races, I don’t care about any of the candidates short comings, Barack, Hillary and McCain all have them, my only concern is how do we fix this damn mess, Wake up people and quit thinking so small minded, we have major problems and all I”m hearing about these days is Obama pastors speeches, Hillarys papers and John Mccains extramarital affairs…..The problems we have in this coutry don’t give damn about your skin color..but it’s going to take all of our skin colors the either come together and fix or we are all DOOM!!!!!
Posted by: Cedric | March 20, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
It really has nothing to do with race,…it is a matter of Judgement and Obama has shown that his is terrible.
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
If you think that a 37 minute speech will wipe out 20 years of saying amen to the racist pastor Wright then think again!
I found it insulting for Obama to refer to Wright’s vulgarities as simply “controversial.”
Posted by: Fred C Dobbs | March 20, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
ps I love hillary. she is the best.
as builder bob said can we do it?
YES WE CAN. ha ha obama stole that too.
Posted by: timmons | March 20, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Senator Barack Obama sponsors Pastor
Wright for 20 years. His wife Michelle Obama sponsors Pastor Wright for 40 years.
Posted by: Maria | March 20, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
You know, regarding the “Religious Advisory Committee”, there is a valid point.
Obama clearly stated that he would not distance himself from his Pastor.
If he brought this Paster into the White House, regardless of the position, I’d have a big problem with that.
Posted by: Actually | March 20, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Obama/Wright = WRONG!!!
Obama is done – he is not electable in the General Election for President of the UNITED States – All States & ALL People.He has turned this all about race!
GO HILLARY !!!!
Posted by: Molly | March 20, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I hate to say it guys, but I came on this blog honestly seeking truth about Wright’s campaign, and no one has yet to bring it.
Either that you guys lack intelligence, or hold a stance at any cost based on the foundation of RACISM.
If you have proof of Wright being racist, please bring it and I will go to his church since I live next to his church and I will test it.
If it is true that this guy is hateful towards white people, I will no longer support Obama.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Hey Harry,
I’d like to simply say — I have no idea what you’re talking about. I was talking to Kevin concerning something he said. If you’d like to interject — fine but, make some sense.
Posted by: mr_wizard | March 20, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Members of my extended family and I, though Republican, have been leaning toward voting for Obama. No longer! That anti-american rant by his very own pastor reveals too much.
Posted by: Chase | March 20, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
He is a devil in disguise.
White racists can spell and they do read books.
Liberal whites can spell and they read books, also.
The difference is: What type of books do each of you read. (too conservative, too liberal or moderate)
The United States of America was built on the freedom of choice. Watching news media will suit only the individual according to their preference. The freedom to formulate their own opinions.
As the extreme liberal periodicals has written about B.O.’s speech – superb, honest, eloquent and they forgot to mention- disingenuous.
If you read B.O. speech which I doubt you will because you only watch television. You will notice
B.O. never addressed his association with Rev. Wright- His spiritual mentor of twenty years.
If you’ve read any notable periodicals in the pass few months, you would have known B.O. had disinvite Rev. Wright from his invocation to the presidential campaign.
B.O. knew of those inflammatory remarks from Rev.
Wright, not of recent preaching sermons but throw out the entire twenty years.
When former Secretary of State Colin Powell was dissatisfied with his Rev., he walked out and left the church.
B.O. had and still has an ulterior motive to remain associated with the church; to boost his aspiration to be the first black president.
Read about Michelle Obama,s angry about America.
Read!!!
Exelon Corp.
Tony Rezko
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Law Firms-lobbyists
Earmarks for Michelle
- just to name a few
empty words again and again
When will you get it – when it’s too late
That’s a big risk.
HILLary 08
Posted by: ktow | March 20, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
to all obama supporters,what you dont get,probably because your not old enough,is what wright says could almost be lifted verbatim from any prominate black panther from the 60′s or 70′s and they also called for the overthrow of whitys government.also its about wrights totally unamerican statements concerning pearl harbor and the use of the bomb against japan.hindsight is allways 20/20 and thease comments insult the memory of all that served in the pacific in WWII .yea the japs were a real peace loving people,just ask the chinease of nanking or any american or phillapino survivor of the battan death march.obama is not fit to serve this country as president and its not about race its about him sitting and listening to revisionist conspiracy theory anti american horsepucky for 20 years.anyone with any sense at all would not put someone in the presidency that has a group of friends and associates who hate this country.
Posted by: don tufts | March 20, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Shade, you can go to his church, but the man is no longer a preacher. He retired last month. I think he ran out of hate words.
Posted by: Jackson | March 20, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
USA Today – Staff Reports “Obama speech brings range of reactions” 3/19/2008 in cooperation with ABC News writes:
Wright, pastor at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, had been Obama’s pastor and spiritual adviser for 20 years. Last week, clips from one of his sermons surfaced on the Internet and the cable news networks — clips in which he denounced America and whites, suggested the United States brought the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on itself and intentionally infected blacks with AIDS to wipe them out.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Hey Shade,
Here’s evidence — validate it.
Posted by: mr_wizard | March 20, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
When will Illinois wake up and get rid of this man.
1. You were cheated. You voted for a Senator and he hasn’t even been in office 2-3 years, and already you’re not being represented in the US Senate.
2. The only reason he won was because his opponents dropped out or was indicted. Seems to me, based on all this information that is coming out, he’s no different.
3. He simply is making the State of Illinois look bad for voting for him.
4. He’s an idiot.
Posted by: Stockard | March 20, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Wow, calm down guys. Hillary is morally bankrupt and Rev Wright is an idiot so where do we go from here? I can’t support Hillary and it seems Obama has crashed and burned. We got nothing left.
Posted by: gilesjp | March 20, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Why do we have to wait to have those questions answered? I’ll bet it’s because we already know the answer. If we force the issue we will be deemed haters and not concerned about real issues. The issue here is one of backbone. If he didn’t have the cojones to leave when he disagreed with his pastor how can he handle international politics? I know he can allude to his white mother and multicultural cousins. Just think, if he is elected he will never have to answer or account for anything. Did he ever vote yes or no on an issue in the Illinois legistlature? Hmmmmmm. Lets all hug and blame whites folks………
Posted by: scott | March 20, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
gilesjp-
“Wow, calm down guys. Hillary is morally bankrupt and Rev Wright is an idiot so where do we go from here? I can’t support Hillary and it seems Obama has crashed and burned. We got nothing left.”
So true. Only McCain stands to gain from this. Too bad no one has any sense to see this. My repub friends are having the time of their lives. Just when they were almost sure Bush screwed it up for them, in comes this mess. The implications of having a repub president is wah-wah wah wah… Falling on deaf ears I guess.
Posted by: Will | March 20, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Mr. Wizard,
I hear a lot of people believe that concept that Aids is bioengineered.
Looking at it, I think that Wright may have said that without having any evidence to back up that claim. Yet we have no evidence that validate that Aids came from Primates in Africa neither. I honestly say about that, it is way too presumptous to say that. However God does know the truth and He will pay each one according to their works.
He seems to be trying to be adding to his case of injustices in the world today for Blacks, yet I still don’t see any of this Anti-White, or even Anti-America when one desires Justice.
I want to hear stuff where he talks about eliminating white people, or calling white people devils, or disdaining their heritage for simply being white which I believe will justify all of this stuff.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
OBAMA IS RADIOACTIVE IN SWING AND RED STATES BECAUSE OF HIS ANTI-AMERICAN RACIST PASTOR. JUST, LIKE BUSH IS RADIOACTIVE IN ALL STATES.
WHAT “RED STATE” DEMOCRATS IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS OBAMA TO CAMPAIGN FOR THEM NOW.
THE VIDEO OF OBAMA’S PASTOR WILL BE PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN SWING AND RED STATE DISTRICTS, ESP “GOD DAM AMERICAN” AND AID/HIV COMMENTS.
THE REPUBICANS WILL TIE EVERY SWING/RED STATE DEMOCRATS WITH OBAMA PASTOR, JUST LIKE THE DEMOCRATS DID WITH REPUBLICANS AND GEORGE BUSH.
THIS MEANS DEMOCRATS MAY LOSE SEATS.
OBAMA POLL DROP IS JUST THE BEGINNING NOT THE END OF THIS PROBLEM
Posted by: scb | March 20, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Barack Obama has done what no other presidential candidate has ever done. He has forced us to take an honest look at our unique identity as Americans. The most important contributors to identity are race, class and gender.
Unfortunately, race and class are too often intricately connected with white privilege and persons of color exploitation. There is much at stake in this election. When much is at stake cool heads are needed. Cool heads look for evidence.
There is no evidence in speech, behavior or policy that Barack Obama is a racist. There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton or McCain are racists either. That should leave responsible citizens with the task of investigating the myriad of issues that are threatening the future of this great country.
Nevertheless, when the major topic of race arose and push came to shove, Obama didn’t cut and run. He stood tall and raised the bar by acknowledging our divided past and then urged us to confront it and then challenged us to stay focused on the issues. While I admire Hillary, I cannot say the same for her. She is indebted to the corporate lobbyists that have bought and shaped American policy for far too long.
Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright is not running for President. Yes, his anger at our past and our present makes all Americans uncomfortable and it should. But the fact is that he is a now a retired minister,whose voice and experience is part of the varied fabric of American life. He does not claim to represent anyone but himself.
Since when does a religious leader’s view determine the policy of a president? George W. Bush ignored the council of his Methodist religious leaders who urged him not to invade Iraq. Think about that.
I urge for cool heads to prevail in this election. Much is at stake. America has a chance to turn a major corner and do something noble that will restore hope for a better future for all Americans and not just a privileged few. Think of all the children.
Obama/Webb 08
Posted by: Dialogue | March 20, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
20 Years and 25K last year alone,….R.I.P. Obama
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
How is Hillary morally bankrupt? We’ve dissected her already and we’re just not satisfied with the results, so now we want her records during her days as a first lady. I think we need to concentrate on her opponents more and see what skeletons they have in their closets.
Because according to the news that are coming out regarding Obama, it seems that his closet is filled with a lot of skeletons. I wonder if Jimmy Hoffa is in there somewhere.
:-)
Posted by: Leroy | March 20, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Dialogue wrote, “Barack Obama has done what no other presidential candidate has ever done.”
Yeah, he sure has. He’s made his chance to the presidency null and void.
Posted by: Hazel | March 20, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Will, my only problem with McCain is that he might slip again and say…
Let’s attack South Korea for being a communist country, when in reality he probably means North Korea.
Posted by: Jason | March 20, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
USA Today – Staff Reports “Obama speech brings range of reactions” 3/19/2008 in cooperation with ABC News writes:
Wright, pastor at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, had been Obama’s pastor and spiritual adviser for 20 years. Last week, clips from one of his sermons surfaced on the Internet and the cable news networks — clips in which he denounced America and whites, suggested the United States brought the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on itself and intentionally infected blacks with AIDS to wipe them out.
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Hey Shade,
The story line says (among other things) — “he [Rev. Wright] denounced America and whites”. He’s a preacher infecting his congregation with an anti-America and anti-white virus. I think this is bad. And here’s the justice — he can infect whomever he pleases — I just don’t want my presidential candidate to be one of his disciples.
Posted by: mr_wizard | March 20, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
John Smith and obamamama, how much do you know about rev. Wright as a human being? How dare you judge a man who served the poor and disadvantaged for 40 years with what you got from a few seconds media clips? If everyone walked out of church because they disagree with something a preacher said, then all churches will be empty. Or hold up a mirror to yourself and see if you should just put yourself in jail for the worst thing you had said or done.
Posted by: hubbs | March 20, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
Why the double standard Obama?
Why’d you lie?
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
That is the thing Mr. Wizard, I am trying to understand the nature of this “Anti-American” or “Anti-White” virus that is coming from Wright’s church.
I honestly think that there is a difference is being a Pro-Black church that empowers black people and tries to bring answers to the problems in the black community, and another thing to call white people “Devils”.
It isn’t racist, if we were to attend an all white church, and they begin to mention the issues that white people have with black people, if it be crime, affirmative action(which I have not benefitted from by the way), or other issues that are unknown to me.
What I would hope for either of these churches is that they continue to seek the absolute truth so that these problems could be solved.
I think Wright’s approach on dealing with racism may have not been very effective, because you need to have blacks and whites work out these issues together. However, I have yet to find a church, at least in Chicago that is willing to deal with the issue of racism in that way.
Every church is usually a black church, or a white church, or a latino church, or so on. It is really against what God intended in Acts Chapter 2 with people speaking in tongues and everyone was able to understand what other nationalities was saying.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Maybe Obama can run again in 8 years after he has grown and shown that he has learned from his awful mistakes in judgement.
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Jerry | March 20, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
What is most shocking to me is that Obama is acting ignorant on Wright’s speech.
Wasn’t Obama the one that went to Harvard Law School and was the head of its Law Review?
Is this what Harvard considers law review material? Being in the legal industry, I can tell you that I’m shocked someone who is given that distinguished responsibility is dumb not to disenfranchise himself from such a church.
What is even dumber is the fact that he obviously was planning to run for the presidency long before his campaigning. Shouldn’t he have cleaned up (leave the church) far before starting to campaign?
Posted by: Smart Thinker | March 20, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
HAZEL responded to my previous post:
“Barack Obama has done what no other presidential candidate has ever done.”
Her response was:
“Yeah, he sure has. He’s made his chance to the presidency null and void.”
Hazel, I apologize for not being clear. I urged for cool heads to prevail in this election. I should have urged for cool, thoughtful heads. Every election year, a presidential candidate makes their chance to the presidency null and void. Unfortunately, this election year a woman will be in that category.
Obama/Webb 08
Posted by: Dialogue | March 20, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Obama has this pattern of using the race card against any people who criticize him.
Race is indeed an important discussion and worthwhile to be had. But that is not the real questions that we ask Obama to answer. So, he is doing exactly what he has been doing – deflecting the attention away from him to another topic.
If Obama’s mentor of 20 years is of a different color than black and makes these statements then we would still ask the same questions: why did he not do something about it? why does he keep this relationship for 20 years, why does he enable this pastor to perpetuate this hate-filled teachings to the next generations as demonstrated by Obama continuing to take his children to this church. So, the questions about his character and judgment remain the same and have nothing to do with race.
This time, Obama has thrown the Blacks under the bus by pitching the race card against the whole nation and position the Blacks against the rest of America with his claim “to denounce Wright is to denounce the Blacks”.
We know so little about Obama, but with his handling of Rezko and Wright, he has shown that he is divider pretending to be a uniter, he is not trustworthy and has poor judgment. In short, he is not electable.
Posted by: vote4thebest | March 20, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
You know Smart Thinker,
I dont think he acted ignorant, I believe he didn’t quite know how to respond to such of this vast isssue. Really a lof of these questions could be answered if you will watch Obama’s Speech on Racism.
I did take the time to listen to all 37 minutes of it, which I hate to say it, may be too long for people to give it the attention that it deserves.
So what this does is let the media tell us what the speech meant, and all of them are not quite correct in the P.O.V.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Trinity United Church of Christ
When you’re “United” doesn’t that mean you stand as one?
Posted by: Larry | March 20, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee’s comments regarding Obama and Wright were fair and balanced. Hope the country is ready to listen and respond appropriately. Tempers are short, bills are due and children are suffering. It’s time to move on.
Posted by: Dialogue | March 20, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Double standard. Sharpton, Jackson went crazy when Imus uttered those despicable words and he was fired.
Wright speaks in a very despicable way about the white man and America, nobody is allowed to say anything or you will be called a racist or a bigot.
The problem with BO’s speech is he hinted that due to slavery and injustice its okay for us to speak in hatred etc.
BO it does not go both ways, you told Don Imus to get fired, but you insisted to sit and listen to this hatred for 20 years with Wright. This is Hypocrisy.
To fix this problem, well too late.
These are legitimate points they are raising if Mccain or Hillary were part of a “White Supermacist” White centric church they would not be where they were today!
Its inexcusable for Obama to get a Free pass and we are suppose to feel like victims and blame ourselves for why Wright and others feel so much hatred for America? No I don’t think so.
Obama’s speech was not enough and I would like to see his senate records in Illinois, why can’t he release them.
Posted by: Not enough | March 20, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Shade,
If he doesn’t know how to respond, then he should have said the truth from the beginning.
I did hear his speech, watched it and read it twice. It is a good “recited” speech. The fact that he said he wasn’t there during his interview on Friday and then retracing it by saying he was there during his Tuesday speech is what? It’s lying.
My issue and concern about Obama is that the fact he is an attorney (who is being called a counsel and an advisor), shouldn’t he know Wright from Wrong and choose accordingly?
It’s clear and present that the media (CNN and MSNBC in particular) have been too lenient on him. It’s time that he realize just because he easily won Illinois, doesn’t mean he will easily will the presidency nor the nomination for that matter.
He’s destined for failure.
Posted by: Smart Thinker | March 20, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
hi.. read this on another blog, but needed to share it:
“There is an incredible amount of dislike/hatred of Clinton among the Obama supporters. This surprises me. Is Hillary ambitious? Yes. Does she (and her husband) have “warts”? Yes. That said, she has dedicated her life towards Democratic causes, especially child welfare, health care, and the working poor. She has used her celebrity to raise money for and to help elect dozens of Democratic leaders. She has been an EXEMPLARY Senator for NY (spoken as a NYer), rolling up her sleeves and delving into minutiae to solve issues on behalf of both Democratic AND Republican constituents. She has demonstrated an unbelievable level of grace and calm in the face of painful and globally-broadcast bad behavior (yes, by Bill, but I am talking about the right-wing media). She has reached across the aisle, swallowing her pride, to work with Republicans who were awful to her, so that she could get Democratic legislation passed. So Obama supporters, what gives?There is an incredible amount of dislike/hatred of Clinton among the Obama supporters. This surprises me. Is Hillary ambitious? Yes. Does she (and her husband) have “warts”? Yes. That said, she has dedicated her life towards Democratic causes, especially child welfare, health care, and the working poor. She has used her celebrity to raise money for and to help elect dozens of Democratic leaders. She has been an EXEMPLARY Senator for NY (spoken as a NYer), rolling up her sleeves and delving into minutiae to solve issues on behalf of both Democratic AND Republican constituents. She has demonstrated an unbelievable level of grace and calm in the face of painful and globally-broadcast bad behavior (yes, by Bill, but I am talking about the right-wing media). She has reached across the aisle, swallowing her pride, to work with Republicans who were awful to her, so that she could get Democratic legislation passed. So Obama supporters, what gives?”
Posted by: daleaqua | March 20, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Its sad to see how his speech has caused more damage to his campaign and his shady associations with people that are extreme in their views.
I don’t think he has a legitimate voice to now tell the super delegates please give me the nomination! I don’t care how many pledged delegates he has.
The fact is all the “red states” he carried are now and forever LOST!
# OBAMA HAS HIT HIS PLATEAU AND is not winning any more INDEPENDENT votes##
this is tragic but I believe he will not win the general election if he does get the nomination.
Posted by: the peak | March 20, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Because the media has brought this out about Obama
I am now proud to be an American.
I can relate to Michelle Obama…LOL
Posted by: Jean | March 20, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Smart Thinker,
with his contradiction, I dont know what to say about that, and I will have to study that more on my own. The person who will have to answer that will have to be Obama.
I know with why he may have stuttered on the issue however, and everyone can agree on this, is that the topic is SENSITIVE.
It takes a whole lot of wisdom, a whole lot of preparation, and a whole lot of honesty, to speak in the way that a lot of people are saying that no other politician has done.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Well Shade,
Yes, you study that more on your own and get back to me.
In terms of race being a sensitive matter, he should have told that to his campaign, since it was his campaign that provoked it by pressing Hillary to get rid of Ferraro. Although, what Ferraro said was not racist in any way whatsoever, and cannot be compared to his 20 years affiliation, advise therefrom, and family-like relationship with a known hater.
Posted by: Smart Thinker | March 20, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Now see Smart Thinker,
That is where our upbringing does come to play because to me, it seemed very racist for her to say that.
To me, she tries to bring up the issue of Affirmative Action, and of course that invoked a lot of anger in White Working Class Men.
Dealing with jeremiah Wright, so far I can’t say that he is racist based on his statements, because I do understand what he is saying, and that is because of my upbringing of suffering as a black man.
I dont necessary agree with a lof of this statements, but to me, he is bringing out issues that makes “comfortable” people squirm.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Blah Blah blah!!!
Admit it, Obama is rascist!! He is inexperienced with 8 years as a state Senator from Illnois and a first-term U.S. Senator!! He dropped the ball and does not even deserve to be compared to John MCcain and Hillary Clinton. They both have a lifetime experience in public life. What does he have besides his feel good speaches and his “Change” rhetoric? It is about time the truth has come out!
Posted by: b daley | March 20, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Democrats have just lost the election, if HRC get nominated. With Lanny Davis’s comments above, it is unlikely Blacks will vote for Clinton. Democrats can kiss 12 percent of the electorate goodbye and the presidential election as well. It’s just a well, the smarter party should win the presidency and right now, that is the republicans.
Posted by: Tim | March 20, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Shade,
At least we have affirmative action, what about the other races out there? What did they get? It seems to me that they got the shorter end of the stick.
Unfortunately, I have to leave. I’ll try to come on later to answer any additional questions.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
Posted by: Smart Thinker | March 20, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Bottom line….this has nothing to do with race, this has to do with hating America and all for which she stands.
It is ludcrous to think that someone who chose to align themselves for 20 years with someone who so cleary seethes with hatred with America (whatever the “justification”) is qualified to lead our nation as the Commander in Chief. If he was white and had been aligned with such a hate-monger, he would have already been forced to step aside.
Posted by: Outraged | March 20, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
History,
Yes…..McGovern lost to Nixon by 49 states in 1972. We are looking at a similar outcome here if the Democratic party is insane enough to give the nomination to Obama. Unqualified and now, unfit.
Posted by: Ann | March 20, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Rowland, you’re saying blacks are not treated fairly? I think they are treated more fairly than many groups. Affirmative Action is one, and EEOC monitors it.
Some young African Americans in states, such as New York and California are filled with hate (gangster rap, preaching violence in rap songs, changing ratings on music to Mature Audience as a result) — it’s not like they lived in the past when segregation existed and their parents and/or their grandparents were witnesses and receivers to that hate. Many of those parents and/or grandparents are supporters of Hillary and not Obama.
I’m not sure where you’re living, but I think you need to travel more.
Posted by: Monique | March 20, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Hi Ann,
I don’t agree that Obama is similar to McGovern. I voted against McGovern (for Nixon) and I’m for Obama. Obama is going to win most of independents and some rebublicans. This “race” issue will only sway people who would have never voted for him in the first place. The only way Obama doesn’t win is if enough of Clinton’s closest and most rapid supporters (older women) stay home or vote for McCain because they’re upset that Clinton lost.
Posted by: Kevin | March 20, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Where are these blacks that are benefitting from Affirmative Action?
The problem with this thing, is when I do manage to land a job in a Corporate environment, through hard work and fortunate opportunity, in a predominately all white job, people tend to think I am there because of Affirmative Action.
With this kind of thinking, that is why most jobs you go to, is blacks are at the very bottom, and whites are always in Supervisory and Management positions.
It can get so bad sometimes, it looks like modern day slavery.
Every other race has a business going for them, but black people are only known for music and sports, which are both natural talents.
Where is my inheritence? Why does every other child of a different race gets an inheritance, and yet I am lacked with the opportunity or the benefit from my race?
That concept by any means is NOT fair.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Did anyone else feel threatened when Rev. Wright said “Black men turning on black men – that is fighting the wrong enemy. . .?
Posted by: tony | March 20, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Shoot this one and shoot that one, and east coast/west coast hate creating drama are talents?
And first of all, I happen to work for a company with 70,000 employees. And according to our records black employees are 42,000 of the consensus, compared to Asians which are 5,000 and other minorities who fair less.
So don’t come on here and try to be like Obama and call yourself a freakin victim. I’m sick and tired of the victimi approach.
Posted by: Monique | March 20, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
That was a dirty thing to use this race card to make most Americans feel that our country is still divided like this, and to plant in our minds that we still have a race war like we had in the 50′s,60′s,70′s——-. If Mr. Obama felt like that why would he say that he would like this change? Why is saying these things if it were not what he wishes for? I did not hear Hillary or McCain speaking of Bringing this country together at all. If you would like to keep the country divide and split, with hatered that will continue for another 100 years, yes go ahead and vote for Hillary or John McCain. How can you consider Mr. Obama as black only when he’s half and half? That represents change right there. Please wake-up and not use those things that were said about someone that is not in the race to stop someone that will bring healing to America.
Obama-Obama-Obama-Obama-Obama-Obams
Posted by: Vic | March 20, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Monique,
Let’s get real. Asians can work here in the U.S. and benefit, and they can work in Asian coutries and benefit. Especially if you happen to be Japanese. China is starting to pick up in terms of their Economy now.
Being black, I have no options as to where i can go and find a black nation that is competetive in today’s market. We are non-existant and I think it is wrong when you put all of the cards on the table.
I can guarantee when you look at everything Mathematically that there is a problem with Black People.
There are rare occasion where I see some black people in high positions, but it is extremely rare.
Affirmative Action has been manipulated to the point where is it used against the Black Man.
If it truly benefitted us, there would be more black owned businesses and more black corporations.
I work DownTown Chicago and I know exactly what I am talking about. Every company I have worked for has been predominately White where they form alliances against you and prevent you from moving up because we all know, you can’t move up unless you have people supporting you.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
“Hillary Go Home”
I dont think I fully understand your comment.
Posted by: shade | March 20, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Obama’s speech did one thing: it proved what a fake, liar, and deceiver he is. I honestly hope the media plummets him into the ground about this. He has misled America completely, has no substance, or credibility as it now seems. Give it up, Obama…you’re finished! McCain and the GOP’s will shred you if you make it that far……glad America has front row seats!
Posted by: Jack | March 20, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Hey Jerry,
I didn’t mean for you to read his speech. It’s more than one sentence and doesn’t have pictures. When you learn to read, give it a try.
Posted by: Kevin | March 20, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Well Jerry,
did you ask your grandfather yet?
and how many…?
Are you proud of that?
Posted by: Hillary go Home | March 20, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Hey Jerry,
I’m LMAO… you read the Bible!!!! That book doesn’t have pictures!
Posted by: Kevin | March 20, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
it is all about JUDGEMENT. not words but actions.Obama showed bringing his family to a church like this is a disgrace his judgement is gone.If he can’t disown Wright then he must respect & like him.While Wright Hates America,our governemnt & white people. Says “Hillary will never know what’s it’s like to be a black man Obama does”. He went to Harvard,PLEASE-& you do not have to be black to help black people! Obama’s OWN granny wouldn’t feel comfortable in that church so he dissed her. Oprah left that church in the 90′s & Obama stayed.
THIS IS about JUDGEMENT & ACTIONS.
I am sorry but it’s over.
Hillary make us proud as a white women.oh can I say that. YES I AM PROUD a women finally in the drivers sit & behind the wheel. She has WORKED HARD through school& in her life!. NOTHING was giving to her women know we must fight harder, but if we are too strong we are a bit**, If we speak up we sound whinny.
GET OVER IT. HILLARY take it on home.
I’d love to see you push the boyz club aside this is once in a lifetime.& have a black women as VP.
I think that’s empowering!
Please make it mine””GO HILLARY woman power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I’m Proud
Posted by: Lulu | March 20, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama says he never heard minister Wright say any hateful sermons, my question is, do we want a president that will never take responsability because he never knew? also he claims he couldn’t do anything as a senator because of Washington poletics, what makes him think that washington poletics are going to be different
just because he is president?
Posted by: carolina | March 20, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
LuLu
can You do that for Hillary
1 The fellowship
2 Peter Paul
3 Flip Flop Nafta
4 Monica
5 Vince Foster
6 Whitewater
7 Rose Law Firm
you want me to continue…this is just the start
Posted by: Hillary go Home | March 20, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
I can’t believe people are still blind sighted by Obama after he finally came clean that he has witnessed some of these outrageous sermons and still protects their relationship. Did we forget that he initially claimed that he wasn’t aware of any of his racist pastor’s/mentor’s outrageous sermons. We call these people LIARS. He has been a member of this church for nearly 20 yrs, married by this man, and his children baptized by him. Not to mention that he used to listen to his tapes when he was in college. Are we to believe that he is not highly influenced or brain-washed by this man? He may know the difference but what about his kids listening to these lies?
At first I questioned Obama’s integrity when he tried to distance himself from this man that he holds a lot of respect for. He is after all his Mentor. Why not stand up for yourself. Then when he came clean and still protected his relationship with this bigot, I said – finally he’s revealing his true colors. Wake up! All this will cost him the election and we’ll end up with McCain! Is that what we really want? If Obama really loves this country, he will just step down. All he’s doing is hurting our only chance of changing this country around and that’s not with McCain.
Let’s remind ourselves that Obama is running for The President of The United States of America. Our President should unite our country and not divide us. I think it is naive if we ignore this because we want change so much. Non-African Americans should also think twice if they believe that Obama doesn’t have a hidden agenda or doesn’t have an obligation to his race. The pressure he will receive when he’s in office will be endless and they will call him a sell-out if he doesn’t comply. I’m sorry to say this but our country is not yet ready to have an African-American be in the oval office. Not because we’re racist, but Obama is not our guy and will never and should not be our President.
Posted by: Tran | March 20, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
The sad fact is that Obama finds himself in this predicament because he was forced to ”choose” a race. Would Obama have had a political future if he had not planted grass roots in the black community? I suspect not. He could have walked out of Rev. Wright’s racist sermons, he could have chose a different path, a different church. He, more than most, knew a fuller truth. But in America, biracials are forced to choose sides. Their world can be a lonely place if they fail to do so. And that truth is no different for one so blessed and talented as Barack Obama.
Posted by: Crabby | March 20, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
You can argue political points all day but the fact are Obama is a raciest and that should scare the heck out of every American in the United States. Whats worst is the blacks think this is great.Wake up America
Posted by: Christopher | March 20, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I just heard a clip of Obama on a radio sports show today. He said of his grandmother “She’s a typical white person who is afraid when she meets a black man on the street.” Following that one of his relatives called in to comment about the family’s reactions to his Presidency. Don’t think it’s going to be a very Happy Thanksgiving after throwing grandma under the bus! Shame on you, Barack Obama!
Posted by: think | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I just heard a clip of Obama on a radio sports show today. He said of his grandmother “She’s a typical white person who is afraid when she meets a black man on the street.” Following that one of his relatives called in to comment about the family’s reactions to his Presidency. Don’t think it’s going to be a very Happy Thanksgiving after throwing grandma under the bus! Shame on you, Barack Obama!
Posted by: think | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I just heard a clip of Obama on a radio sports show today. He said of his grandmother “She’s a typical white person who is afraid when she meets a black man on the street.” Following that one of his relatives called in to comment about the family’s reactions to his Presidency. Don’t think it’s going to be a very Happy Thanksgiving after throwing grandma under the bus! Shame on you, Barack Obama!
Posted by: think | March 20, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
This story is very dumb. Why is Obama being held responsible for what every person he has ever been around has said? If that was the case then we could not be friends with anyone. I do not know anyone that share every view that I have and agree with everything I believe. Second, Obama could possibly have helped Wright not be racist.
Again people have managed not to focus on the real issues but focus on something that has nothing to do with anything.
Posted by: Sonya | March 20, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I don’t see anything remarkable about Obama’s speech. He uses pedestrian language, insipid storyline, and is utterly unable to raise himself above his own racism. Obama “cringed” when he heard his grandmother use “racial slurs”, he never said he “cringed” while istening to Wright for 20 years. Obama did not “cringe” when he put a racial slur blacks use for whites, like “crackers”, in his own book. Yes, Obama is a black racist and a bigot, and yes he does share the views of a man he considers to be his personal advisor. Obama is not a man for all people. He is a false prophet, and all those who sing him praises are bend-overs.
Posted by: lana rinsky | March 20, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Obama wants to be judged for his superior judgment since he has no record of accomplishment.
Just look at the company he keeps and you will conclude that his judgment is seriously flawed. To sit in the pew for 20 years listening to a pastor who has nothing but hate for America and still not sever that relationship is troubling. To make matters worse, I bet Obama kids were in church when these sermons of hate were being spewed.
Obama is halfway fessing up now because he was exposed big time by his pastors greed to make money by selling his videos.
The other bombshell yet to come is his relationship with Tony Rezko. Rezko created and bankrolled Obama as a politician. He is dripping out lies everyday as they are pointed out by others. Obama is in trouble and he knows it. He would save the Democrats grief if he drops out now.
Posted by: Sam | March 20, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Senator Obama says that he wants to be the President who transcends bigotry and hatred, yet he continues to belong to an organization that gave a lifetime achievement award to a man (Louis Farrakhan) who openly and publicly refers to Jews as “bloodsuckers.” Apparently, Mr. Obama has no problem honoring people who hate Jews. I voted for Mr. Obama in the California primary. Now that I see who he really is, I wish I could take my vote back.
Posted by: Tom Davis | March 20, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
questions for mr. obama -
flip flops on nafta – “just words?”
retract re: pulling out troops from iraq – “just words?”
dedicating the title to your book to the preacher you now refer to as something like your imbecile uncle – “just words?”
agreeing to a revote in MI and Fla – then, refusing to put up your end of money and allowing for revote, disenfranchising both states of millions of voters and tehn, smiling as you blame hillary for wanting to fight for voter’s rights – “just words?”
YOUR KENYAN GRANDMA, during a 2007 press interview, stated she was a practicing muslim. 2/-3/2008, she states she is a practicing christian. – “just words?” (you must have put the screws to her too)
your wife not publicly commenting on anything since she dissed america’s history – “just words?”
calling for hillary to release her 16 thousand page schedule for her 8 years in white house as first lady and not providing one iota of background into your tenure as a chicago state senator, claiming there isn’t any documentation – “just words?”
calling for hillary to release her 2007 tax documents – where are yours? – “more words”
finding one person who can support your clim of working on behalf of low income and otherwise needy people when you were a “community organizer?” – “just words?”
claiming to have worked on committees in u.s senate when you did not hold or attend one meeting – “just words?”
claiming you did not support the iraq war, but unlike your supporter, ted kennedy – you voted in favor of every bill that has cost us trillions of dollars. your stated opposition to the war? – “just words”.
replying to debate question re iraq: bo says that if we pulled out of iraq and that an insurrectin began as a result (down the line) – and, it appeared that this was going to infringe on america’s rights – what would he do:
“go to war”.
everytime bo has had a chance to actually do something, he hides. choosing instead, to use the words of statesmen and national heroes, as if he were in their league, as if his life work reflected on the courage of their lives or, they reflected on his – it just is not true – he uses kennedy and MLK – he uses their “words” and, he makes them small in his mouth, …
how many people know if MLK would have enjoyed the chicago preacher sermons? wake up america, black and white alike- obama is just “words” – he is screwing with you.
all this talk about war and peace and uniting our country and peace and love and so on – they are just words. his blind ambition leading the blind faith of a public so hungry for “right action” that they are willing to be bamboozled by a flim flam, scam man.
as a person, i feel sorry for him. he clearly has no identity of his own. which, is sad because he is smart. but the ego of a man is not the man and the heroism of other men cannot be stolen from other men. or, reshaped in order to fill his hollow. and, a country cannot be lost or a democracy foiled, in order to satisfy a childhood yearning of a lost boy.
re: mr. obama,
there is a word for you: “no” – time to grow up. take responsibility for your choices and quit blaming your preacher and your grandma for your sorry story. can you imagine MLK or Kennedy blaming their mom or dad or grandma for poor judgement? geez o pete. BO can’t be president. he just can’t. Can you imagine MLK signing up with the black panthers and preaching love and unity? COME ON! MLK WAS A MAN. HE WAS THE MAN. AS WERE JOHN AND BOBBY KENNEDY… REAL MEN! THEY LIVED THE LIFE. WALKED THE TALK. WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!!! BO may belong on Oprah, but he sure does not belong in the white house, as our commander and chief.
Posted by: raven reports 55 | March 20, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Obama, my grandma use to say,
“show me your company, and they tell who you are”
I am 25 years old and ready to vote but not for you, because you keep bad company like The Hater Pastor Wright.
How can you and your wife subject your two little girls to such hateful comments. It’s like allowing them to indulge in drug. SHAME on You!!!
Posted by: samada NY | March 20, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I am a white woman who is not afraid when I meet a black man on the street. I am afraid of gangs of men or woman of any color when I am alone on the street. I don’t understand why Obama has turned his back on his white grandmother and is desperately trying to fit in with the likes of Wright. Obama’s wife is a racist and Obama, himself, is starting to show his true colors…that he is a racist too. So sad… and scarey if he ever becomes president.
Posted by: B.B. | March 20, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
What people are forgetting is that Obama is a Bi-racial candiate and he is for ALL AMERICANS. You can not pinpoint his pastor comments as being guided to ” whites” only. His pastor was basically saying that our ” Goverment” sucks not “whites”. If you actually listen and stop comprehending ignorance and pieces of the sermons then you will fully comprehend the message well. So do your home-work first and then judge Barack as our future president not like it came out of HIS mouth. Also, let Fox come out with some comments about America under the democrat presidency made by Pastor Wright and show it on Fox. I triple-dog dare. Find some older comments like past 8yrs ago. Its not Obama idiots.ITS GEORGE W. BUSH screwed up Adminstration.
Posted by: May god Bless the USA | March 20, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
People, please get over it. If we are going to judge him by the words of a man he can no more control than you or I, then we all stand judged. The comments on this blog are a prime example that racism is alive and well in America. America finally has an opportunity to elect a man that could bring this country together and we like the typical “white americans” we are, will do everything in our power to make sure it does not happen. A year from now, if the Clinton administration with the help of people like Rush Limbaugh and Fox News steal this nomination and Mccain wins the election – when you look in your pockets and see that you are unable to pay your mortgage, put a decent meal on your table or have to choose between heating fuel or gas – thank yourself for being responsible. We are a racist society and our hatred of others is not only directed at blacks, its directed at any one that is not white. Shame on all of you that continues to keep such hatred alive and well. Unlike Michelle Obama, I for one and not proud of America – I for one think that we have a long way to go. The mere fact that we now do in the dark what was once done in the light does not make us any less racist. The best thing the media can do for us all is to replay Obama’s speech from the beginning – maybe something will in it will open your eyes and make you admit the truth. But wait, we (white)americans cannot handle the truth.
Posted by: Gloria | March 20, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I have to agree with Gloria’s one point in that RACISM is alive and well in America, and that is extremely true in Reverend Wrights Church, which is obviously bitterly outspoken against White America, and America in general. Senator Obama came across as a great speaker, that is very eloquent. But, I am having serious doubts and concerns when Reverend Wright was one of his religious advisors speaks so harsh of a White America. He is helping to define and draw the line with his anti-white rhetoric, insteading of trying to see the one color vision of Dr. Martin Luther King. Reverend Wright’s sermons are shameful and should be condemned. How Senator Obama had him in such high esteem, gives me grave concerns on his true viewpoints and biases. I would rather put my trust in Hilary, at least I know where she stands, and she always has had pride in being an American, not so with Michele Obama, no matter how much they try to spin it. I would like to thank Reverend Wright for showing us the other darker face of Senator Obama, the one that does not often meet the public eye. Jim…
Posted by: Jim | March 20, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
who is the man, who has fed barack’s spirit? who is and has been his spiritual mentor? for 20 plus years? what does a man learn from another man, entrusted with the role of preaching the word of God to his children? what is the role of father to his children in matter of church and faith?
why does one man bind himself to the mentorship of another man? and then, claim what?
not to belabor this one item as the be of all and what will end all for BO’s candidacy, but…
‘glad to be an american’ or ‘born in the usa’ needs to review the tapes again. there is one where preacher man does talk government – blaming government for 911. of course, bush had only been in office for 9 months prior to 911. so, who was he really blaming? and, preacher man also has archived article re: natalie holloway and the inordinate amount of press she recieved, when she went missing. the preacher was ticked off that black teens did not receive same press. and, he does speak heavily about oppression of race. do you suppose he is referring to the black legislators or asians? i don’t think so. barack justifies the preacher man anger (hate) words like “kkk” of usa on the preacher man anger. who composed or composes kkk? apparently, you need to do your homework. it would be nice if all BO’s words could be supported by a life that reflected his rhetoric. just ain’t so -
he’s all show, sport. and, it’s his ‘show’ that he has been riding on – since, he has no credentials to support his ambition. let me ask< are we allowed to be discerning or should we just take his "words" for his claims to the presidency? are we allowed to scrutinize the candidate? especially, since he refuses to produce any substantive, credible documentation to support his resume – even, an employer does a background check, anymore. what is the problem? denial? yours and his – two differenet definitions.
everyone knows bush's screw ups. we just don't want to have another president elected who will unload a crap and a half of lies from his baggage once he moves into the white house. try to see the opportunity of freedom of speech and the public right to know as civil liberties.
by the way, the reason we are in the iraq war is because media and bush administration did not allow for protest or accurate reporting of facts. sooooooo excuse me for not wanting to go through that kind of hell again. be happy for the truth, even if the news of it makes you feel uncomfortable. people need to be informed before making a choice. and, they are not choosing a bed time story just now.
it's not that hillary is perfect. we just know who she is and that she does not change like the color of ambition BO chooses to wear on any given day.
Posted by: raven reports | March 20, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Sock it to him!
Posted by: irma | March 20, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Jake,
Obama needs to drop out of the race. I am very tired of all the race talk that has come from his campaign.
this is dividing our country. Please allow Mr. Obama to gracefully exit otherwise we will be having the second OJ simpson/Rodney King trials all over again.
It’s time for America to concentrate on issues. With Obama that would not happen.
Posted by: Jamie | March 20, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Could someone find how Lee Feinstein knew that Obama visited only one NATO country in his entire life?
Posted by: Mr. Nice | March 21, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I have a problem with the Obama-Rev Wright stuff. I agree with one of the others who posted comments, A white man or woman presidential candidate could not get away with being connected with a racist minister. They could not get away with saying that crap. Even though they don’t agree with the commments, could not continue as a member of the church, and call the racist minister “uncle”. Also, I have a bigger problem with the anti-american statements than with the racists statements. I will not support him now knowing that he can affiliates himself with someone like Wright. I really doubt that very many others will either. I especially resent him now, my daughter was in the army, I have family and friends in themilitary “protecting” someone like obama and wright. We certainly do not need a president who will accept that language from Wright or anyone else. There seems to be a double standard when it comes to racist statements….its ok for blacks to be racist, but a white person (Geraldene Ferarro) gets attacked by obama’s people. Who does he think he is? I feel pretty sure, if anyone else, white, hispanic, etc….made the anti-american statements, they would not be able to continue as a candidate. I do not vote for someone just because they are democrat or republican, I vote for who is best for the job…who will not accept anti-american statements from anyone.
Posted by: Debbie | March 21, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Anyone that thinks that Obama wants race to be a central issue of this campaign is sadly misguided.
He is the last one on Earth to want that because he knows that it will make him just another marginal black candidate like Jesse or Al.
He so badly wants to rise above it all but his opponents will not let him if they can help it.
Posted by: truth serum | March 21, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Soooo glad to see that the truth about Obama is finally becoming main stream!…It is very scary to think that it came this close to election day. (If you think that if so many people had continued blindly following him like cattle, he could have had a chance to become president of this wonderful nation).
Such and idea scares me and millions to the core!
Congratulations America for waking up from the Obama-spell!
NOBAMA ’08 ….OR EVER!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: sj | March 21, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Its not that the truth about Obama is coming out. Its the truth about America that is coming out.
Its just really sad to see all of the “I told you so’s” and the “I knew you couldn’t trust him” hate mongers coming out of their little holes.
I know that all of you out there that insist on calling him by his middle name feel somehow vindicated now.
But tell me exactly what is it that you feel vindicated about?(is it that your pent up fears and prejudice were justifed?)
Posted by: truth serum | March 21, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
First of all, I would like to thank ABC for this type of investigative journalism of the candidates. The MSM has been so blatantly biased for obama it is Very disturbing on so many levels. Yet again, from his speech, the media gets diverted from the issue at hand. Lets get back to the real issue here 1) He is a liar – he is now saying that he did attend some sermons when his pastor made these comments. 2) after a 20+ year relationship with his pastor, how could he not know is tenor(this is beyond any rational belief otherwise); which brings up his Judgment ability. The fact he is just Now renouncing his words shows an obvious HUGE lack of judgment on his part. Why is not the media discussing these very basic points??? His speech is an Obvious diversion/spin away from these points into the bigger racial issue. He has lost credibility and integrity with me. Please do not use his name in the same breath as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. This is an insult to the late, great Dr. King.
Concerned Independent
Posted by: Tina | March 21, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Hillary and Bill Cinton have sat in MANY MANY African American churches asking congregations for their votes. Those votes significantly contributed to Bill Clinton becoming president. Now, they both are silent and letting their supporters spin this issue to get her votes. SHAME ON THE
CLINTONS!!!!!!!!! Thank you Mike Huckabee of your response and integrity regarding this matter.
And for many who say this church is racist, don’t be so quick to judge. Could the reverend have communicated his points about perceived injustices in a more positive and less divisive way, YES. However, how is it that 5% of a 30 year career played in the national media is now all this man and church are being judged on? PLEASE! There are so many people living in glass houses these days, as if they have never said something that is later regreted or communicated a legitimate feeling in an inappropriate way. Examine yourself and what you have thought and spoken. “He who is without sin cast the first stone”. As a society, we are so quick to judge…we need to be delivered from being judgemental.
Barack Obama life reflects someone who focused on the positives, not the negative words being spoken. He hoped for a different future than the one where the anger and bitterness is still felt by many, even his own pastor. We all need help in one way or another and the church should embrace all types of people…it is like a hospital for broken lives.
Life is a journey and God has a purpose for each of us. We have a responsibility to read the Bible for ourselves and develop a personal relationship with Him, not just rely on our Pastor (our accountability is to God, not another person). And, could it not be that Barack Obama was positioned in Rev. Wright’s life as a testimony and as an example of how God can change circumstances from one generation to another to bring healing to past hurts and injustices. Even after many years of knowing Rev. Wright, Barack Obama’s life’s work, actions and desire is to pursue UNITY and reconciliation. WOW, now isn’t that the story of the Bible…a Christ who looks beyond our faults and sees our need; who died on the cross for the sins of the world.
Posted by: Retired | March 21, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
I Keep seeing people say that a white canidate would not get away with being linked to a pastor making disparaging comments like Pastor Wrights. Well they already have gotten away with it, there are several “crack pot”theologians” on the Republican side of this, but the Press seldom harps on the Dirt from the GOP, Because the GOP supporters are smart enough to keep their Eye on the ball. They won’t report it because they know that Republicans just don’t care and it won’t change a thing. Much easier to stir up mess with the DNC because we claim to be so rightous that we turn on each other at a moments notice. It’s called divide and Conquer and it’s been used to sit on the black community for hundreds of years. To my white brothers and Sisters in the struggle welcome to our world. Fighting each other over symantics while McCains poll numbers steadily grow and we tumble head first into a 3rd Bush administration.
Posted by: Gregory Jones | March 21, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
I am amazed at the amount of time and energy spent on one single candidate running for the presidential nomination across all channels and shows, including yours.
What puzzles me even more is how much all of the media praise and tout the Race speech made by Obama. Let’s just look at the facts:
- Yes, it was a great speech, and well delivered.
- Yes he is an articulate and intelligent man.
- No, we still don’t know any more about Obama’s own judgment for not removing himself or his impressionable young children from the exposure of such venom.
- From my simple understanding, a church or temple you choose to go to gives you and your family the moral grounding and spiritual guidance to enrich your soul (or Atman, to us Hindu’s)
- Why was it delivered? Because he had to say something at the time he did, and took it as a political opportunity to give us a lecture on race relations.
So then, how is Obama so much above the rest of the political fray? He proved that he was in fact a very skillful politician in very much the same mold.
Let me ask a very simple question that I have not heard anyone ask thus far – probably because it is politically incorrect.
What if it was an Imam in an Islamic religious institution in America who made the type of radical and incendiary comments about America and White Americans that the Rev Wright did, and over a period of years? What would be the reaction at large – crossing all racial lines? What would be our judgment of those Muslims who send their children to that institution for religious studies?
Let me tell you, the Imam would have been arrested, and in all likelihood, the institution would have been shut down. Does an Imams’ vitriol negate the good these Islamic religious institutions do for their communities? Do they not raise money to feed the poor, or assist people in need in their communities? Yes they absolutely do. What they would not be doing is to preach tolerance, understanding and making positive efforts to bridge the divide – in this hypothetical case. Does this seem so hypothetical after all?
Would Mr. Obama then use the same arguments to say that America is wrong then in condemning and disassociating ourselves from radicalism in these other ethnic groups – in this or other countries? Should we, by the same reasoning provided by Obama, reach out to these Islamic radicals who preach hatred of the society from which they are benefiting and not be judging them? Will he reason with us to say that America’s foreign policies and support of Israel created this hatred and anger? I assume he would. Then he would have to further state that America has been wrong.
Btw, I am a Hindu, not a Muslim. But I find myself asking this question after hearing the much touted “Race” speech. I have the utmost regard and admiration of the real civil rights icons of our times – Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi to name a few. These were men larger then life, who led by example. Men who really do bring tears to our eyes for what they believed in, fought for, and achieved.
Obama is a junior senator from Illinois, who is little known and as we learn more about his background and associations – his judgments, we are realizing how little we really do know about this man. He may well be a very good candidate. But not now – he needs more experience and exposure on the national stage. I think I have good judgment when it comes to managing our personal finances, and running my small business with offices in NJ and Chennai, India. But that doesn’t make me ready to be the CEO of Morgan Stanley or JP Morgan, does it? Perhaps it does.
I consider myself a democrat. But I am seeing the stupidity of the party throwing away this election – a victory they will be giving away!!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | March 21, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Truth Serum:
Why is it sad to see all the I told you so’s? …Because they turned out to be true???? It is not vindication one seeks by expressing relief! :)
Have a nice day!
Posted by: SJ | March 21, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Thank you ABC for the glimmer of hope that possibly not ALL the main stream media is in the grips of liberalism. Its quickly becoming common knowledge that this IS the case.
One of many mistakes that Obama (and his black theologians) has made is to ASSUME that whites or other races/religions hear or are taught similar hate at home or in their churches. In fact, its quite the opposite.
What an enormous step backwards!
Posted by: MB | March 21, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Barack Obama did not speak words of hate. The distortions and generalities (e.g. …his black theologians; …he knew he and his church were racist…) on this thread are amazing. So many are patting themselves on the back for not having any ‘hate’ in their thoughts, hearts and/or actions EVER. And displaying an attitude of “this could never happen in my family, home, church or community…you know, it’s just THEM”.
WOW! Since when did we become a society of perfect people?
Not one person has said we will PRAY for Rev. Wright and pray for this country to heal. What happened to forgiveness?
Colossians 3:12-14
12 So, as those who have been chosen of God, holy and beloved, put on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience; 13 bearing with one another, and forgiving each other, whoever has a complaint against anyone; just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you. 14 Beyond all these things put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity.
Posted by: Retired | March 21, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
SJ: The I told you so’s would be vindicated if Obama really did hate whites but any rational and truthful person should know that he absolutely does not hate whites.
Those that secretly fear and distrust him want him to hate whites to justify their feelings.
I mean, as we speak he is probably sitting at a table in a ready room surrounded white people (not blacks) who are all his long time closest confidants and advisers. They are most likely going over various strategies about how to diffuse this stupid Rev. Wright mess.
Posted by: truth serum | March 22, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
i agree, this country went too far to the left and its killing us.
Posted by: smitty | March 25, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
I dont care what his racial feelings are he is too liberal. you can not raise taxes in a slowing economy. he will distroy the economy, health care, and the military. he is radical.we dont want a socialist government it does not work.
Posted by: jerry brown | March 25, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
the liberals want congestion pricing another tax. but the keep letting more people through the open boarder .build a wall, fence, ect, stop the flood. that will ease congestion.
Posted by: jerry brown | March 25, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am