War of Words Rages Between Clinton, Obama Camps

Obama had to call someone else on stage to attack Bill!!!! This man is truly shameless. He is not even man enough to say his own mind. How idiotic can Obama be. In the WH, not that he will ever get there, probably he will call on Michelle to say the hard parts of the speech to the other world leaders.Men, another new low!!!!!!!

That Obama guy is just to much. It turns out that the company that looked at the passport files is headed by an Obama advisor. Obama is just plain stupid or is the biggest liar on this earth.

Now I remember why I was so sick of the Clinton’s in 2000, that I didn’t even bother to vote for Gore!

I had some reservations about Obama early on but all these strange twist of events have led me to believe I could never vote for him. To much politics as usual with him. I wanted to believe in his change message but he doesn’t walk the talk.

So it was Obama’s advisors company who looked at the passport files. Wow, that’s change you can believe in.

Bill Clinton needs to begin to chill just a bit. Let the rest of the primaries play themselves out. But it appears Obama is going to win the Democratic nomination. And if the 527′s want to play the Wright sound bites ad naseum this fall (and begin to sound more and more like a Michael Richards–aka, “Kramer”–rant) then let them. America isn’t going to fall for that okie doke again. Not this time.

Obama can say “typical white people” and he is all over Clinton for saying nothing offensive. It never ceases to amaze me what his thought process must be.

LOL! Looks like the Clintonistas are here in full force today. Keep it up, morons…even if you do manage to steal the vote from Obama with your GOP i-like smears and tactics, you will have turned off so many Democrats that McCain will walk away with the election. In so doing, however, the Clintons will finally be relegated to the fluid-stained dust-bin of history where they belong! Go away already!

Come on, President Clinton’s comment were not anywhere near McCarthism…Obama just wants to make a big deal about this to deflect the attention off him and his “spiritual mentor.”

Ya gotta love it! Bill, you did it again. Got them talking on and on and on. You really must have a lot of influence out there, because they sure are worried about every word that comes out of your mouth. Atta, boy!

If Hillary would drop out of the race as she should because it is impossible for her to take the lead, none of us would be wasting our energy fighting each other.
I don’t care what Bill or Hillary or Barack say about each other anymore. None of it matters because the nominee is Barack Obama. He has a 170 delegate lead in pledged delegates. It is impossible for Hillary to take the lead. We should all be yelling at the super delegates because they could end this thing right now so Obama and the democratic party can focus on winning the election.

Obama cannot face real hard facts and issue…that’s truth he ignore’s everything and turn it around like he’s the innocent victim all the time…instead of blaming Wright he blames his white grandma, instead of admit he does business with Rezko he denies it…etc etc what else is this guy hiding?

A further comment about the Reverend, if he despises Hillary so much and hates “rich white people” so much, what the heck is he doing dining at the White House with all these type of people who he shows such obvious hatred towards in his sermons? Is the food that good at the White House?

You know, when this race started I was so happy that either way, we had two great candidates…Obama and Hillary, but after all the nastiness coming from the Clinton camp, I’m convinced the only one I would EVER vote for now is Obama. So, even if by some trickery or party hackery, Hillary swipes the nomination, I would rather vote for John McCain then see the Clintons in the White House again. There was a reason I didn’t vote in 2000 and I thank the Clintons for reminding me why! By the way, all you creeps here questioning Obama’s patriotism and descency should be ashamed of yourselves. You’re falling right into Rush Limbaugh’s pocket. Thanks for losing us the White House again!

Per the DNC rules, pledged delegates are not bound to the electorate. They can change their vote at the national convention. While the number of thme that have changed in the past elections has been small, this race is so close and unpredictable that it will matter. The superdelegates may not be the one to tip the election to Clinton. The pledged delegates can do it also. Currently Obama’s projected lead is 3.5% of the pledged delegates. It wont take many to change that. Voters need to realize the media sites are simply projecting a best guess and their margin of errors are greater than the margin of the projected lead. The race is not over by a longshot. Remember when Obama said if he can get within 100 delegates, he has a shot? This is what his strategists in his camp were referring to. Clinton knows this is true also. Both camps have admitted that both of them will be going after pledged delegates (not just superdelegates) at the convention. There will be a lot more dirt known to the public by August. I am seeing information about Obama coming out regarding stock purchases in a company that benefitted from his legislation, suppoedly he got caught campaigning in his Senate office (federal offense), the outcome of the Rezko trial is not known yet and he has an advisor at the trial every day, and now a company headed up by one of his advisors employed the people who illegally peaked at passport records? Oh yeah… lots more to come! The accusations against Clinton that prompted the lawsuit on her schedules have been shown without merit now that the schedules were released. I suspect other accusations will also be shown without merit. But in Obama’s case, he has consistently denied, lied, then admitted to lying while trying to turn the attentino off of him. His judgment is being questioned on many fronts and his credibility continues its dive downward. The race is not over, stay with it Hillary!!!!!!!!

Bill Clinton judging anyone’s patriotism is a joke! He and Cheney had their opportunity to be patriots, but passed the test. They let others bleed for our freedoms! He wants to elevate himself (and wife) to a position that never of them have earned or deserve. He is beginning to bring back all of the drama and none of the substance of a man that time is slowly passing by.
This is the latest sound bite to distact everyone from the real issues–The war, the economy, the ecology. Maybe if we all look over here no one will look to close at the Hillary papers just released and realize that she has been lying about NAFTA, and her readiness on day one. Nice try Bill, but not this time.

I wish all you Clinton supporters would be as angry towards Clinton’s ethics ( come on, everyone knows they’re dirty…face it) as Obama’s association with Wright.
Also, why aren’t you guys in an uproar about all the evangelical preachers spewing their hate…Hagee, Parsely, Robertson.

It saddens me to see all the Democrats fighting. I live in Oregon and I would not be upset to see the Super delegates start taking sides now to avoid a drawn out race.I really don’t care if my vote is counted or not. We need this decision to be made or we will not get health care in the future. I must say.. this last comment by President Clinton makes me so sad. He was a President that I really liked (despite his infidelities) and now he seems to be supporting the Republican cause at every turn having wonderful things to say about McCain. And Obama releasing that picture of his Preacher with President Clinton is a bummer too. We need to pull this together. I also think Clinton needs a wake up call on the pledged delegate votes. Are we gonna see a scorched earth because she doesn’t get what she wants. Its time for folks to make a call. Superdelegates STEP IN!!!

Obama people are waiting what Clintons say anything or on anybody that can be used for their advantage. They just want them to open their mouth so that they can hammer them with the help of Obamas Internet machinary and high paid media. But, Americans are great and they know what to do when they go to voting booth.
Hillary will win 2008

What has the democrat party become that they had to scoop so low to dis on one of their own a former President of the United States. I think this party is not what I thought it was. We are down there with the republicans.

I’m not a “Clinton person”, just an average hardworking American, but I support what Bill said because it’s true. We need to work on the issues. We need an experienced President who loves this country and wants to protect us and help us stay strong in every way. I would never feel loved or safe with someone as divisive as Barrack as President. My family history includes whites, blacks and Native Americans, but I guess Barrack would classify me as “typical white person” since my skin is pale. Instead I judge people by their hearts and character and not the color of their skin. I believe we need to vote based on character, actions and experience and not just on the color of someone’s skin, age or their political rhetoric. I’m grateful to Bill Clinton for having the guts to bring this up.

OBAMA playing the race card AGAIN. Bill did not even MENTION Obama! This is getting so old.
I am getting sick of the Obama campaign.

DQuinn-Why is Obama standing with Wright then? And throwing his grandmother under the bus, twice. For Wright. That’s quite a profile in courage there, throwing a grandmother under the bus for his hate mongering, American swearing preacher. You deserve each other.

Disrespect a former president? I don’t have to, he does a good enough job of disrespecting this country for himself. He sets himself up to judge a patriot and he himself failed that test during Viet Nam. I refuse to allow him to elevate his position to judge patriots when I lost family and many friends for being REAL patriots. This is a conversation he should not have started–but it is making everyone look away from the Hillary papers and that was the intent wasn’t it?

Cathy-Damage? Let’s see, Tuesday Obama made a speech to do damage control for the Wright race issue. Wednesday-Obama does damage control of the damage control for throwing grandma under the bus in the first damage control speech. Thursday-Obama does damage control of the damage control of the damage control and calls grandma a “typical white person” throwing grandma under the bus for a second time. Friday-Obama does damage control of the damage of the damage control of yet another damage control for “typical white people”. Wow! That’s hard to follow. Poor grandma. So many tire tracks. Saturday-Obama uses another lap dog for more damage control. Can’t wait for Sunday.

First they put out a photo of Bill Clinton shaking hands with Wright as if we are to beleive that Bill sat in Church for 20 yrs and listened to this hateful preacher. Then they say that Hillary has chacater flaws. Today they trod out this old general to make a political attack while Obama stands there and listens. Is this the new kind of politics that they preach about. well it looks like old style attack politics to me and thats change we can do without.

Dogsoldier–Since we are talking patriots–Although I don’t agree with Rev. Wrights comments I do think he has earned the right to say them. A Marine who did not shirk his duty to you and me or to this country. That is more than Bill Clinton can say.

DQUINN
are you implying that married women can’t stand on their own?
wow! here’s a whole new campaign issue we can throw into the ring!
In any case, Hillary, married or not, has shown on many occasions that she is more than capable of standing on her own… like in getting health care for 6,000,000 children!
Aside permitting Rezko to get away with not heating the apartments in his run-down tenements during Chicago’s blustery winters…… under B O ‘s watch!…… (and these were mostly blacks and latinos.. f a m i l i e s) !what did Barack accomplish?
Vote how you want….. but as for me
I’m urging my candidate to:
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!!!!

If Obama has a lead on delegates, he won alot of them with lies. Lies about his dealings with Rezko, a Syrian businessman who could produce alot of money from the Mideast for Obama’s campaign and 1.65M home. Also, of course, lies about where he was in the pew! If the liberal press had been doing their job instead of swooning over Obama, we would have known about Rev. Wright sooner and Obama would be history. Also, if we hadn’t gone to war in Iraq, Saddam would probably be flaunting his nuclear weapons right now – and where would that put Obama’s judgment. I’m proud of all our armed forces over there protecting not only Iraqi freedom, but also our American democracy.

That draft dodging, fornicating former president Bill Clinton has a lot of gall to question anyone when it comes to patriotism. Where was he when was a young man and this country was at war with whoever? Whoops I forgot “I didn’t inhale”

Obama leads in delegates. Hillary wins the popular vote without Florida and Michigan. What then? The Democrats can lose an election *they* said was impossible to lose and destroy all rights to the credibility of the DNC.
… or
we can tell the candidates to work out their positions and run together. Impossible, Pelosi says. Impossible the Obamites say. Impossible? It is the way to win and hold the Presidency for sixteen years. Anyone in the Democratic Party who can’t grasp the changes that would bring shouldn’t be in politics at all.

Oh, come off it Gen. McPeak! Get hold of yourself! His own pastor Rev. Wright yelling “GOD DAMN AMERICA!” the man who married him and baptised his children! You’re are cheering on a candidate who comes from the far left fringe of American politics. You can’t compare Sen.Clinton and Sen. McCain to Sen. Obama’s off the wall politics; it will take lot of red, white and blue paint to make Sen. Obama appear patriotic specially, “wright now!”

for Hillary, LOL. You were never for Hillary and no one believes for a second you were.
I digress.
Attention Obama and your advisors! Tell us why you breached the security and looked at McCain’s passport file!!!

For Hillary-Would you be kind enough to fill in the blanks not mentioned in the above article. I’m interested in how you’ll read a man’s mind without even personally knowing him. Furthermore, I’d like to know how you developed this mind reading capability you seem to process.

I pity you wannabe political pundits who grasp on to every word and conform the definitions towards your own leanings.
Personally I’m happy to learn that Senator Obama will be our next President. I’m tired of 20 years of Bushs in power and Clintons for 8 years. I could not imagine we Americans being so stupid to elect another Clinton or a Bush lite again. This Nation needs a broad sweeping system change, change that begins with you wannabe political analyst.

Thanks Thinking
Okay so let me get this straight. Obama is connected to Wright, all the republican candidates are connnected to some crazy evagelical pastor and Clinton’s connected to Bill…
Looks like all the candidates must not be patriotic then…

Thinking,
Listen very carefully -I AM AGAINST THEM AS WELL. I don’t understand that you aren’t getting what I said.
I hope you have a very nice holiday! :-)

Bill Clinton remarked that it would be nice to have two patriotic nominees for the presidency and not all this questioning. When challenged by Gen. McPeak, your site posted the replay that Bill meant it was too bad Obama’s patriotism was being unfairly questioned.
So Bill Clinton thinks Obama should not have a chance to be a nominee because his patriotism is being unfairly questioned? Wow, how how fair that is of Hillary’s hubby!
Had he meant to say no candidate like Obama should be attacked regarding his patriotism, he is perfectly capable of making himself understood. And you know darn well that the implied remark was don’t vote for Obama because his patriotism has been questioned. Shame on Bill!

I agree with the general in the general sense. I always considered Bill Clinton the greatest President in my lifetime, but he has diminished his own stature and his status in history during this campaign for Hillary. I guess this was the price he must pay. After all, he does owe his wife a huge debt. Powerful people always have a powerful, and sometimes dark force, that drive them to achieve. Namaste. God Bless.

This may be a sideshow in the next couple of days. The Washington Times on it’s website is reporting a contract worker with a company headed by an adviser to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama may be tied to breaking into the passport records. Obamagate anyone?

Can’t we all come together for the best interest of the whole country.
If you all remember way back in the Civil War… Let’s not start another one!

Never fear Russell, here is the truth behind that fraud:
“Passport Investigation Scrutinizes Employee of Firm With a Tie to Obama”
So you see, it was all an attempt to try and change the storyline on the news sites. Talk about corruption to the last blood cell. This guy could teach Bill a thing or two about lying through is teeth.
Seems Fox News isn’t giving up the fight. They keep finding more and more about this phoney. And to think we have to go to FOX to find the truth nowadays?
God this IS an episode of the Twilight Zone! Swallowing truth fed to you by Fox is akin to Satan swallowing a Communion Cracker.
But if the truth hurts Obama, then it’s probably the truth.

I enjoy reading most of you wannabe political analyst commentaries regarding Senator Obama. It’s somewhat amusing that you good people would prefer to maintain a political dynasty running this country forever while at the same time complain about how bad things are. This country needs a fresh break from the policies and politics of yesteryear and look into the future.
We have had 2 decades of Bush’s in power and 8 years of Clintons. The Arizona Senator is Bush-lite. Enough already, if obama fails as our next President then this democracy of ours is useless and I’ll go move to Sweden where ideas and social respondsability are common place.

2009, I feel you and I are one. Don’t let them forget. WRIGHT ON DAY ONE=OBAMA …RIGHT ON DAY = HILLARY 08

“There is a Whitney Houston song that goes “I believe the children are the future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.”
But RGutty, Obama has had his daughters at that church from their baptism on down. I am sure they are being ‘Taught The Way’

Ah yes “D” and “Questioner”
the “Meeks shall Inherit The Earth, for it is their Wright” so sayeth the Lord.
There are people here who would and will excuse Obama for ANYTHING, even being exactly like the Clintons.

Here’s an idea. In order to keep Barak Obama’s Nursery School from crying and whining about everything everyone opens their mouth to say for the rest of the campaign, just take Hillary and all her people and McCain and all his people and put duct tape over their mouths. They can go to rallys and interviews and be on tv with tape on their mouths and maybe they won’t say anything to offend the baby Obama. I’ll be offended by something Bill Clinton says if I ever hear him ask God to Damn American like Wright’s old uncle preacher. Since I don’t think that will ever happen, SHUT UP OBAMA WHINERS! Can everybody with a brain see what will happen in the future if Obama is President and the head of Iran or Osama says something mean about him? He’ll probably have to go to hospital and get a sedative. It’s a political campaign, GROW UP Obama!

Has anybody complimented President Bill Clinton on what he has done for his wife?

Dogsoldier,
devastating post! you see, in his OWN words, page after page after page, Barack confirms through every syllable and image created, that he and his wife and their ‘pride’ for America is absolutely, intrinsically tied to Wright and Meeks. Michelle’s words were not a slip of the tongue. They were a slip of the heart.
If you are searching for a reason why these two stayed seated in that church for 20 years, and brought their daughters their, from Day 1, there is an obvious and simple reason indeed.
They believe every word they heard. They accept and acknowlege every sentiment stated.
They are in utter sypathy with Trinity’s philosophy and motto.
They stayed because they agree. Period.

They might want to check their facts before they make statements at Camp Obama … hope this doesn’t end up like the passport outrage where the individuals FIRED were employed by an Obama campaign supporter.
You can’t make this stuff up, really. Or is it just the imagination of a “typical white” observer?
And we thought that Howard Dean’s SCREAM would stand as the most idiotic mistake in politics … we had NO FREAKING IDEA how ingenious Obama was!

I agree with you Melanie. How does the Obama campaign expect to survive if he is the nominee? We have heard almost nothing from the Republican camp because they are sitting back waiting to see how it ends between Obama and Hillary. If he is the nominee, the Republicans will eat him alive. Obama and his people act like Hillary and Bill are supposed to be out campaigning for him or something. If it was me and he got the nomination, I would not campaign for him then either. It would damage her politically in the future when he destroys this country with his racial anti-American beliefs. He got so popular so fast he thought that he was untouchable and in the beginning it did seem like a lovefest all around but his people talk about her Hillary and Bill on a daily basis so why would he be shocked when someone says something about him. His camp started all this racial turmoil. He tried to drag race into every little remark said all through the early campaign and then who’s side is it that is really racist? His. If he is the nominee and the KKK and other white supremacy groups start coming out and getting involved, his crowd won’t get any campaigning done for denouncing everything everybody else says everyday.

Lois,
I read that you didn’t see a blog or comments on the other pastors. I meant nothing other than to provide you with an article about them.
Just pointing out how this issue is a non starter for all the Candidates.
In the GE McCain can’t use it.

It is truly disgusting, that Obama should get the rtd. General to come on stage to compare Bill to McCarthy!! How low can this man sink? Since he talks about “typical white person”, is it legitimate to ask if such behavior is “typical black” behavior? Shame Obama, Shame on you!!

McPeak’s comments are the worst form of intellectual dishonesty. Sen. Obama reacted with silent approval when McPeak repeated them in Medford, Ore. I’ve watched Pres. Clinton’s speech three times. At no time did he suggest Obama did not love the U.S. This is not the first time I’ve seen the Obama campaign use this sleezy tactic. It is the first time, I have actually seen the Sen. present when it was utizilized. Any chance of my voting for Sen. Obama in the fall disappeared this morning.

First of all, Mcpeak was passed over by Bill Clinton, for Joint Chief of Staff Chairman. Clinton named General Shalikashvili instead. So the way I see this, is that McPeak is getting payback on Clinton by saying Clinton is like McCarthy. He only endorsed Obama to start with, because he’s holding that grudge. He backed Dole, and after that…. Guess what?….. He backed Bush!. So by all rights, he would normally have backed McCain. Second, If what Bill Clinton meant, was that the GOP would run 527 attack ads that show everyone with their hand over their heart during the star spangled banner except Obama, then Bill’s right.

And I have another reason NOT to vote for Obama. What a load of crap.

Ah – the war of words. Guilt by association, character assignation, surrogates clandestinely asserting just about everything.
It’s what you would expect from two candidates who have so few real differences and who seem totally unable to focus on real issues. Two candidates whose depth can be measured in millimeters.
Two peas in a pod, these two. Each shivering in fear that something else will surface from their background. Each swimming in the same muck. Each equally disgusting.

How can anyone with any common sense or morals believe the “audacity” of this charlatan? The DNC needs to stop Obama before he destroys are party and America’s hopes. Bill Clinton’s words are very clear. Obama is trying anything to get the focus off of Fl, MI and Wright. It’s not gonna happen. His cronies even tried to erase his passport ties to Islam. I’m sure they were planting things on the Clintons and McCain. Obamagate is here. Vote for Hillary, stop this madness. Obama has made the U.S. into a laughing stock around the globe. What a B.S.er!

Bill knew exactly what he was doing. Very clever undercut.

I.A. Beychock
Obama wasn’t part of the equation. He was speaking on Hillary as being the nominee against Mccain.
In other words, let me spell it out for you, obama had lost and Hillary is the nominee. He is referring to her knowledge of the war, foriegn affairs and getting to witness these two patriotic, knowledgeable people debating each other. Pay attention..you might learn something..back away from the Kool-Aid!!!
hillary4change

Would Rev. Wright still remain Obama’s spiritual advisor if he becomes president?

I think you have all lost your own minds. The Clintons are the ones who changed the entire tone of the campaign. They are also the ones who famously said that a candidate running for president must answer “every attack,” otherwise it’s gets construed to be true. I guess what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander. You people should read a very good article on truthout regarding Reverend Wright’s speeches. After all, folks, what he said may well make some white people uncomfortable, his comments are true. Furthermore, just the other day in Fayetteville, NC, a white man ran down a black man for asking his lady friend for a cigarette. This isn’t the 60′s, this is 2008, and racism is STILL ALIVE AND WELL AND LIVING IN AMERICA. But, Reverend Wright is wrong to pinpoint it, is he? And furthermore, this guilt by association thing from all the candidates should stop. People should be held accountable for their own words. In spite of the truth of Rev. Dr. Wright’s words, you haven’t heard Barack Obama utter anything similar. In fact, he — like some white people –seems willing to forget that these things happen, even as they do!

Obama does not speak to Reverend Wright (the reverend is out of the country, some say he has alzhiemers, and is in very poor health)
And I am sure you know that, even thought there is a new pastor at Obama’s church, Obama decided NOT to go to church this Easter.

Thinking,
Thank you. I do think it is a little different sitting in a church listening to hatred for 20 years than just having someone endorse you. Though, I wouldn’t be too thrilled to receive an endorsement as such. For me personally I would have left that church many many years ago.

Why Obama himself or his camp react so defensively when anyone asks legitemate question or questions on him? They just accuse other people without answering the question. Where he learn those dirty tricks? It definitely not from American politics. If Obama has nothing to hide, why he or his camp are so nervous?

I wish the super delagates would end this, because it is getting so where no one can say anything that is not offensive or needs to be retracted, this has gotten really silly !

THE GUILTY DOG BARKS FIRST… IF OBAMAS CAMPAIGN THINKS BILL CLINTON IS TALKING ABOUT OBAMA.. MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING THE REST OF US WILL SOON FIGURE OUT.. BILL CLINTON NEVER MENTIONED ANYBODY AND OBAMA JUST THINKS THAT CLINTON WAS TALKING ABOUT HIM.. IS HE GETTING A LITTLE PARANOID?

Joe (North Dakota), I am so glad that there are people such as yourself; Level-headed individuals who can see the forest for the trees. A person who is not swayed by dirty politics, and who realizes that the GOP seems to be doing well during the presidential campaign, because they didn’t have viable candidates. That’s why they were able to choose a candidate so early. Unfortunately, John McCain, who trod on his own principles in order to woo the far right, is the only semi-viable candidate they had. I could have voted for any one of the Democrats, because each of them have substance, experience, a plan to bring the country together, and favor all Americans instead of the top 1%. If we can keep in the forefront your comment that John McCain means 4 more years of George W. Bush, then perhaps we can get somewhere. I am now for the super delegates choosing their candidate now (whether Clinton or Obama), before the party totally self-destructs.

Kelly, the Clintons are also a lot older than Obama, so to compare their civil rights record with his is rather ludicrous. The debates catch people off guard and any candidate can answer a questions in a way that they later regret, and while I don’t remember what you’re talking about, I get the point. But I will say this, if the Clintons are such lovers of civil rights and the rights of African Americans, why didn’t they abolish the VOTING RIGHTS ACT and make it the law! Does the right to vote for white Americans come up for discussion every 10 years, to see if they can in fact vote for 10 more? Does it make any sense? The GOP nearly didn’t ratify it this time around. It’s almost like blackmail — If blacks get out of hand, or become too powerful, we’ll just take away their right to vote, and they’ll be reduced to nothing!

AT LEAST THIS TIME, B O WON’T BE ABLE to sidle out of his abominable handling of President Clinton’s comments by saying “I was unaware of what was going on”.
As for Bill speaking in behalf of his wife, why shouldn’t he? At least HE doesn’t come up with political gaffes like “I’ve never been proud of my country until now”.
Clinton has taken the rap for B O’s raising the race bar ever since South Carolina when he factually stated that Martin Luther King’s dream wouldn’t have become a reality without it’s enactment by President Johnson.
As for HIllary, she’s strong enough to stand alone and smart and feisty enough to be a fantastic president. She stood by her man, and now he’s standing up for her.
It’s time to lower the boom on B O.
Meantime, GIVE ‘EM HELL. HILLARY!

Poor Poor Pro-Obama ABC News
Spinning another feeble attempt to distract the true intentions of the Obama Campaign.
Demanding and investigation into the breaching of Passports, only to find out it was his own adviser that was guilty. OOPS
And Richardson’s endorsement???So what..keep your enemies close by, I guess. Wait til they start showing clips of the debates that Richardson slammed Obama…OOOPS
And ABC refuses to report the Passport Screw-Up by Obama.
Campaign Of Hope Yeah Right

Let’s summarize the facts so far:
1.) Obama needed to take the focus off the Wright story.
2.) Poof – someone snooped in Obama’s passport file.
3.) Oh wait, they also snooped in Clinton & McCain’s files.
4.) Oh wait, the head of the contracting company who snooped is an Obama advisor.
Better cancel Easter plans Michelle, the chickens have come home to roost.

If Obama was white he would not have been still running after all of that scandal with his “uncle” pastor. We, the “white people”, cannot use the word “black” in public, only African-American; while on the other side, a person that attends an African-American racist church every Sunday and listens to the bias of anti-white preaching, can still be running for president!!! Do you really think Wright has preached that kind of preaching just that one time?
Obama said “the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning”. I don’t think so! I never ever heard of any white priest preaching from the altar such racist ideas against blacks, or any other segments of the American population. Probably that is happening in Obama’s neck of the wood…
Well, if lefties (Kerry & Co.) succeed in hijacking the Democratic Party leadership, I can see that a lot of Hillary supporters would vote for McCain. Obama’s candidacy has been artificially blown out of all proportion. Does he really believe that he stands a chance to win the General Election? Everyone I know would vote Republican this time if Hillary is not going to be the nominee…
Obamatics forget that the majority of the US are not lefties. Bill Clinton knew this very well. That’s why he was able to build a centrist oriented coalition & won both elections.
Also, it was in Obama’s interest for Florida & Michigan not to rerun their primaries. Do not forget the majority of the voters in both of these states voted for Hillary. That’s why lefties are not interested in finding a solution. He knew full well he would lose both of them. So, how he is going to win without Florida & Michigan?
What a sad joke!!!
Also I am not suprise of the ABC’s bias take on politics. Poor Americans for the news coverage they get!

It’s clear now- Bill Clinton is running for President again. The Constitution no longer applies. We don’t elect our representatives any longer. We have royal families. Throw them out. No more Clintons. No more Bushes. Send them to prison.

Clinton slings mud… much how two high school girls fight – lots of cheap shots and backstabbing followed by “oh, I was not aware of this happening”. I won’t even mention the continued flip flopping on issues (FL/MI, NAFTA, war, “experience” and… unions (she says she back these groups but when you look at her career, she’s been unsuccessful at any union task she’s worked – as well as healthcare (except for 1). She’s like a teenage girl that can’t make up her mind on what clothes to wear for the day – she can’t just stick with a single strategy.
Obama does damage control for comments taken out of context, people he knows and short 30 sec vids of his minister that was quoting US Generals but the clips were to short to realize he was quoting others – as well as people not understanding cultures other than their own.
We’re all American – we just do things different… be open, welcoming and come together!

Why in the world does Hillary Clinton allow Bill to even speak for the campaign any more? Doesn’t anybody in the campaign realize that every time he gets in front of a crowd and wags his thumb like he did during “the good old days” that it just makes people cringe. The ex-president is probably the worst advocate for his own wife’s presidency. For this reason alone, Hillary has no future in any office higher than what she has now. People are never going to be able to get past the thought of having Slick Willy in the White House again. Obama benefits every time Bubba opens his mouth, can’t anybody in the Clinton campaign see this?
And what gives with Carville referring to Gov. Richardson as “Judas”? Give me a break. So because Richardson agreed to serve Bubba in a couple of offices, he’s supposed to support Bubba for the rest of his life? This is exactly the kind of politics that wreaks — cronyism. Down with Clinton, down with Carville, down with Cronyism in all of its ugly-headed glory!
Go Obama!

Interesting how the passport file breach came out of nowhere and now it turns out the company doing the spying is run by an Obama advisor. Could it be that they were trying to take the focus off of the Wright scandal? MSNBC should be downright embarrassed of their coverage. Me thinks Anderson Cooper owes the Clinton camp an apology.

If those were typical black people in the background of the Wright video than I don’t want to associate with them. They looked like a bunch of crazed animals.

The Passport Fiasco is a Obama Supporter!!!!!! Diversion???? I think So….. This Gets More Disgusting by the day! WAKE UP AMERICA!

A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain. Want another Republican in the WH? Vote for Obama!

Can’t wait for the reruns of the debates that Richardson slams Obama on experience PRICELESS

They’re talking about using lie detector tests for the Obama advisor’s company employees to see if they were trying to get some dirt on McCain. While they have the equipment out they should hook up Ms. Michelle to see why she really is so angry.

Obama has setback race relations by 50 years. After he made the racist comment “typical white people” I see people are starting to feel comfortable using the term for people of all races. Sad, the man is no uniter.

Nancy, that happens daily on The View.

UNBELIEVABLE. Obama’s camp will really stretch it to find something between the lines in Former President Clinton’s speech —- yet, the fiery words of Wright and Obama’s hypocrisy doesn’t even phase them. This shows amazingly misplaced ethics.

Obama demands and Investigation and Find Out his own adviser is GUILTY
Priceless
50 million and can’t even buy an election right.

The truth is that Obama has run a brilliant campaign- dirty on the inside- clean ont he outside and without any real substance- he will be a disaster as a nominee for all of us who are Democrats- who desperately want a new President- go Hillary!

It’s funny also how people keep calling Obama a whiner, and think he shouldn’t respond to anything, and get upset about what his responses are. And yet, for everything that happens, people’s votes ARE affected. It proves a candidate ABSOLUTELY MUST RESPOND TO EVERY LITTLE THING, because contrary to the claim by EVERYBODY that they hate the negative campaigning, they are still influenced by what the other camp reports on their rival, while expecting that same rival not to prove their innocence. It looks as though we’re all a little crazy! It’s like taking the 5th — if you won’t respond, people think whatever you’ve been charged with is true!

I voted for Obama in Iowa. I am so upset that I didn’t know more about him at that time. It just keeps getting worse and worse with his campaign.

Janet’s post referring to ‘typical white people’ made me think that if this was said in reference to blacks then the person saying it would be accused of profiling…and there would be no way that that person could win a major election. Are we so afraid of being considered racists that we allow this kind of double standard? Racism is racism regardless of its color!

Give me a break, everyone that heard that remark knew what Bill was trying to say. It is just more shameless race baiting tactics by Clinton …Maybe Clinton should denounce his lifelong habit of the politics of hate.

I have heard the words “I’m sorry” from both Clinton and McCain. With Obama it’s just spin, spin, spin.

So you bring your lip sticked pig to the GE and he will get slaughtered by McCain.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
It wouldn’t suprise me that the totals given by the Obama Campaign from contributors were off the mark…MAYBE BY MILLIONS, just to exagerate and sensationalize the “so called” CAMPAIGN OF HOPE

Obama’s on the ropes again so he’s trying to go around Hillary once more and engage Bill. Only this time it is so transparent who is on the attack. McCarthy?! Shame on you Barrack. Lifelong Democrat here, and at this rate the only way Obama will get my vote in November is if he is in the VP slot on the same ticket as Hillary.
The whole party right now is feeling buyer’s remorse. To demonstrate they are not willing to play “politics as usual,” the Obama camp should agree to re-votes in Michigan and Florida so the will of the people can truly be known. If he blocks those efforts, that alone should disqualify from the party’s nomination for President.

Anthony: thats not true.
If Michigan and Florida were counted, as democratically they should, Senator Hillary Cinton will be ahead. Period.
Secondly, the Republican help you got for Barak is going to dissappear when it comes to the general election.
Senator Clinton will be the Presidential Candidate – rightly so – because she is the most capable to lead our country and include everyone.

Drop-out: This soldier would be proud to salute President Obama. If you didn’t serve, don’t think that you can decide what us soldiers think.

It may seem like it’s over for the Kool-aid drinking progressives(liberals), but this will follow Obama for the rest of his career. Anti-White racism is only ok to White-guilt voters and Black Americans.

While former President Clinton has a history of making statements that are misleading, I think he’s getting a bum rap this time from General McPeak. I don’t read President Clinton’s comments as questioning anyone’s patriotism.

I have to run but just remember this…
Fool me once…shame on you, But fool me twice…shame on me.
Passport-R-Us
Demand an investigation to find out his own adviser is….GUILTY
Show Me The Money
Wiht all the millions contributed???
How can this be happening???

That’s right, Senator obama was shaken up, so the strategy was to create a distraction: THE PASSPORT STORY. And to make the issue more believable, Clinton’s and McCain passports were also looked at. What a joke. Obama will never be elected president. His supporters remind me of those fanatic sheiks sermons.

I dare say Anthony is right. It is basically over for the Clintons.

Laundry List Of BS & Lies – YES YOU DID ’08
Wright
Meeks
William Ayers
Exelon
Selma
Rezko
Chicago South Side Horrors
Treehouse
Wal-Mart
1984 ads
Raila Odinga Revolutionary Cousin
NAFTA
FARC Terrorist Negotiations
Hsu Money Too
Imus Double Standard
Univ. Of Chicago Hospital Corruption
Granny Under A Bus
I Never Heard
Yes, I Heard
No Memo
Yes Memo
Professor Of Law – Never
Constitutional Lawyer – Never
Ethics Bill – Not His
900 Bills Passed – 26 Bills in 8 Years
US Senate – 1 Bill in 4 years for Congo
130 Present Votes
Multiple Oops Wrong Button Votes
212% pay raises a week after Elections
Iraqi Billionaire secret cash
Discounts and Divisions On Property
Fluent In Indonesian
Never Practised Islam
Meeks Never Helped Campaign
Dad a Poor Goat Herder
Granny In Kenya Always a Christian
Father A Freedom Fighter In Kenya
Registered Christian In Indo School
And here’s the newest lie to ad to the list:
Someone is after my passport to harm me!!!!!
No Obama, you had your own guy go into Clinton and McCain’s passports to get information, and had him go into yours to make it look like it was random.
CAUGHT IN THE ACT.
Even CNN which loves Obama more than Turner is running this story -
You’re NAILED buster-brown.
“Passport contractor exec is Obama adviser
The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a former CIA official and a consultant on foreign policy to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday. full story”
Know what that means?
You were digging for dirt and tried to hide it by including yourself in the scheme. But it won’t wash.
He is a dirty, sneeky, every-day politician in the vein of Bush, H. W. Bush, and Nixon. Hell, maybe even a dash of Bill. But Obama, you could teach ‘em all -
How To Be More Corrupt Than A 30 year politician in 30 Days Or Less – Or Your Money Back!

I pray that the Democrats pull back from the brink here before they destroy our chances in November. I have been unhappy with many of the things coming from the Clinton camp and am an Obama supporter. Given previous statements by Bill, it’s easy to see why people are hearing his latest statement as a giant slam at Obama’s patriotism. And it may have been meant as such. However, you could also read it as his wishing the campaign were such that the two well meaning patriots in the Democratic race — Hillary and Barack — were competing on the issues and not “all that other stuff”. Regretably, Bill has contributed so much to the rancor and divisiveness of the campaign himself that it’s easy to see why he’s not getting the benefit of the doubt.
The world is hanging in the balance here and the Democrats have got to remember that no matter how passionately we feel about our candidates (and I am absolutely convinced that Obama is the right person for the job), it would be nothing short of national suicide to allow four more years of war mongering Republican rule.

As usual Obama uses someone else to spew his venom, in the same way that Jeremiah Wright has been his racist anti-American mouthpiece. He keeps undermining unity in this country in so many subtle ways while blaming the Clintons. How can such a hypocritical coward be the leader of the free world?

This is truly another i;; advised ploy by Barrack and his advisors to create negative press for Clinton. This man will stop at nothing, he is constantly on the prowl for anything to turn into an issue to divert attention from the real issues at hand. His campaing is in trouble, his numbers are dropping by the minute and people are starting look beyond his oratory skills and see that he has no substance.

From all of the Clinton supporter posts, it appears that what they dislike most is that this is going to be a close loss for her. Unfortunately for her, no matter how hard she tries from here on out, she’s going to do no better than have a close loss. She’s not going to win every state left, and she certainly is not going to win by the landslides that she would need to break even in the states where she probably will win. Unfortunately for the Hillary Democrats, it’s going to be close, but it will ultimately be a loss no matter how much spin you or any Clinton supporters put on it. That’s the powerful thing about (or the regrettable thing) about democracy. And if she continues to be behind in delegates, states won, and popular vote, just watch as the superdelegates jump ship on her. If the superdelegates do otherwise, just watch as “major” voting groups leave the party. It’s clear from Hillary supporters that you’re uncomfortable that she will, in fact, lose the nomination. But unfortunately, that’s just the way it’s going to turn out. She really only has two options: (1) take the low road, dig up as much “dirt” or pseudo-”dirt” and inject as much fear, uncertainty, and doubt about Obama into the campaign, but still ultimately lose, or (2) take the high road, run the rest of the campaign reasonably graciously, accept defeat honorably, and live to campaign another year. Given the Clinton track record, it appears that option (2) is probably out. But the goal of the Democratic party should be to win the White House at this point, not to divide the Democratic party. And, unfortunately for Clinton, she pretty much has no shot.

That Obama actually was present, and shared the stage with McPeak for these comments is a truly sad moment for the democratic party. He sure can’t pretend he was busy working in the Senate and didn’t know the comments were making news the way he claimed he was on the day the Wright story filled the airwaves. Obama is changing Democratic politics; he’s campaigning like a Republican.

I am really beginning to solidify my original thought that Senator Barack Obama is intelligent, well-spoken, but lacks a tough back-bone. First of all, he purports to be running a “clean” campaign, yet time and time again, resorts to passive-aggressive attacks on Senator Hillary Clinton. Second, he cant even “attack” on his own. He has to call up a retired General on stage to do his dirty work . Third, to ALLOW McPeak to compare President Bill Clinton to Joseph McCarthy is beyond the pale. Plain and simple. Senator Barack Obama is a total phoney baloney.

RMJ-
What’s sad is Pres. Clinton acting like a desperate DOG and Hillary holding his leach. Anything to get to the White House for these two.

I have benn a Democrat all my life if Obama wins I will have to vote for McCain.

William J. Clinton was a fantastic President, served 2 terms and did plenty GOOD politically for the American people. There was plenty money and there were jobs.
NEVER FORGET THAT.
It’s just so shameful for some to speak so disrespectfully about him.
America should draw from his experience, consult him on matters to help us get back on our feet… not throw stones!!! Stone throwing happens in Iran! That’s not a Christian behaviour. People forget that Bill Clinton is still and will always be a US citien and has rights like eveyone else to campaign, support and vote as an individual, and chose who he think is best for the job.
Bill Clinton is loved by millions of people, even if a few morons on this page write hateful messages.
History has put W.J. Clinton into a success category… Take heed, you may learn something good.

My. Reading these comments, I have to conclude that Americans must be the most stupid people on earth ! How on earth do you attack Obama not for what he said but that of another man. So if your Dad is caught stealing, it makes you a thief ?. You guys need tog et off that burger and chips and think like humans. Obama will probably lose cause his message is not dumbed down enough for America. He should come up with soundbites as that is more congenial with this ‘fast food’ obsessed lot.
London.

Obama espouses no galvanizing political idea. He is unable to say what he means by “change” or “hope” or “the future.” And he has failed to say how he would actually be a “unifier.” By the evidence of his slight political record (130 “present” votes in the Illinois state legislature, little achievement in the U.S. Senate) Barack Obama stacks up as something of a mediocrity
Nothing could be more dangerous to Mr. Obama’s political aspirations than the revelation that he, the son of a white woman, sat Sunday after Sunday — for 20 years — in an Afrocentric, black nationalist church in which his own mother, not to mention other whites, could never feel comfortable. His pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is a challenger who goes far past Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in his anti-American outrage (“God damn America”).And what portent of presidential judgment is it to have exposed his two daughters for their entire lives to what is, at the very least, a subtext of anti-white vitriol?Tthe floodlight of a presidential campaign has trained on this usually hidden corner of contemporary black life. Jeremiah Wright, splashed across America’s television screens, has shown us that there is no real difference between rhetorical hatred and real hatred. His public persona thrives on a manipulation of whites , and his private sense of racial identity demands both self-betrayal and duplicity. His is the story of a man who flew so high, yet neglected to become himself.He can NEVER be the President of the Greatest Nation on earth.
Once everyone’s counted, including mi and fl, HILLARY WILL BE WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE.

Where were the outrageous parts of Clinton’s remarks? I’m sick to death of people feigning shock and outrage over innocuous comments. We can’t go 24 hours without someone accusing someone else of racism or demanding an apology. I’m sick of people political grandstanding and trying to make mountains for the press out of nonexistent molehills. Grow the F up already! Get to the issues! And if you’re a journalist, try doing some actual bloody journalism for a change instead of imitating the tabloids.

Tochi – If my father steels and I sit quit knowing he stole, then I am also a criminal.
GO FIGURE.

Why don’t all you folks get off here and go to bed. This election is already won by the republicans. The Obama people have split the democrat party. I’m going to bed in a few minutes. Good night.

ccohn texas-
Don’t forget, it was Clinton who started this once again. He’s showing his true colors of being a greedy bigot who will do anything say anything for power. Nothing honorable about that.

Never once did Clinton mention any names. Guilty conscience makes people think others say things that they are thinking. This logic comes from a typical white woman.

Drop-out: it would figure that an Air Force ‘guy’ would support Hillary Clinton. Take that from a soldier for what it’s worth.

If the worst dirt republicans can dig up on Obama after all this time is something his Pastor said when he wasn’t even present, then they really are grasping at straws and don’t have anything substantial on him. It should be easy for him to defeat McSame who guarantees 100 years in Iraq, continued skyrocketing gas and healthcare prices, the continued destruction of the U.S. economy and dollar and middle class and the elimination of Social Security. I’m voting for the Democratic nominee come hell or high water.

Hmmm can’t trust Sen. Obama. I just heard that one of his advisers owns the company who’s employee snooped into the passports… It’s seems a little weird….

Oh the poor Obama supporters who are just now coming to terms with who they support. They are coming to the realization that he is a liar. He’s anti-American in the most insideous way (that means he tells you he is about to tell you something you might not like so you feel better about hearing his hatered for YOU white people.) Take some time to get over it. Eventually, you will realize you have been hoodwinked by a man whose only desire is to be president. You have been bamboozled, and you thought you were smarter than that. I know how you are feeling. I was there once. And don’t even try to tell me I am not speaking the truth to you. We both know how you feel. McCain 08. or even Clinton if it has to be, but NEVER OBAMA 08

All of you have to remember, Bill Clinton is a “IMPEACHED PRESIDENT” he was not and is not fit for office and was even disbarred because he doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. Why anybody would care what that piece of work had to say is beyond me!Since everything that comes out of his mouth is lies, one must really listen to even what he is saying about his own wife!
We need to restore “HONOR” and “INTEGRITY” to the Whitehouse…..neither a Bush nor a Clinton qualifies!!
VOTE OBAMA/2008 and make US all Proud once again !!!!

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7. bamboozle
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The number of racist slurs that President Obama is going to ban is growing rapidly. Don’t you ever use them or he will send you to “hope and change” reeducation camp.

Jack51t, give it time, baby. You’ll see it my way in a lil bit.

Upon graduating from Wellesley, Hillary made a commencement speech that moved her audience. She went immediately to Yale Law School. Following Yale, and a year in Washington, Rodham flunked the DC bar exam twice which has a 60% pass rate. She moved to Arkansas and passed their bar exam which has an 80% pass rate, and married Bill Clinton. She taught at the University of Arkansas and joined the Rose law firm which is a corporate law firm. Clinton established a legal aid clinic at the university. She taught law for two years. As first lady of Arkansas, and of the U.S., Clinton served on many boards including Wal-mart. She chaired only one: the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, which failed, accomplishing only political traction for Republicans and a setback for her husband. She fended off prosecution involving the White House Travel Office and her investments with Whitewater. A year after Clinton became a Senator, she secured $20 billion for New York City in the wake of 9/11. Among other funding measures she directed toward her state, she prevented the closing of a military base there. Although she is considered to be one of the most influential Democrats in the Senate, most of her sponsored legislation has been symbolic — naming two post offices, two courthouses, honoring and congratulating sports teams and historic figures from New York. And in 6 years on Wal-mart board, she sat mute while the company fought against unions and the advancement of women. She has a reputation of being the queen of earmarks and recently secured a 1.5 million dollar earmark awarded to a Harlem minister who endorsed her candidacy for President. She also has accepted more corporate donations than any of the Republican candidates. NOT AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD LEADER.

What is worse than a McCain presidency? An Obama presidency. I was never an Obama fan. In fact I’ve disliked him from beginning. He is a despicable person in every sense of the word “despicable”. I’ve just come the realization the last couple of days.

McPeak has an interesting history of his own … supported Dean in 2004 and Bush in 2000 so when Kiddie Camp Obama can find someone with some serious political history … lol … no wonder his reference is to JOE MCCARTHY … did he mean Eugene McCarthy ??? — I mean Peak’s a former Republican after all …
If Bill Clinton’s threshold for someone who loves their country is someone who believes that EVERYONE SHOULD BE HEARD IN THE VOTING BOOTH, then I guess I’m with Bill. And if there is any connection between Joe McCarthy and the sanctity of the vote, then BRING IT ON.
Camp Obama is nothing but a bunch of amateurs.
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Obama will not be President, regardless of who wins the Democratic ticket. Both have too much baggage, and with the NObama priest thing, he will get eat alive during the general election. At the end of the day, he has alighned himself with a racist priest and church, that’s what 20 years will do. A 20 minute speech will not unwind 20 years of hate speech doctrine which he has exposed himself, his wife and his children to. He is a fraud.

It is beneath dignity to respond to McPeak’s rants.
President Clinton presided the country for 8 years – over 22 million jobs were created and average income went up by $7500.
Barack has not earned his Senator wages – he has not done anything during 3 years in senate.
Only Words and even those are stolen and are empty without the backing of any substance.

THE FINGER!!!!!!!! Watch that “FINGER” of Bill Clinton …. He is always sticking it in our faces …. and when the wagging begins; so do the lies!!! 1). He stuck it in our face when he lied about having sex with Monica. 2). He stuck it in our face when he lied to the voters that Sen. Obama’s Campaign was a fantasy. 3). He stuck it in our face in South Carolina where he lied about “race baiting”. 4). He stuck it in our face in Mississippi when he “insulted our intelligence” by lying and misleading us about a Clinton/Obama Ticket. 5). Now that same “FINGER” is in our face making the preposterous assertion that Sen. Obama is not Patriotic, he said Quote: “I think it would be a great thing if we had an “election year” where you had two people who “LOVED” this country and were “DEVOTED” to the “INTEREST” of this country and people could actually asks themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other “STUFF” that always seems to intrude itself on “OUR” politics, Unquote….. CAN WE FINALLY TELL THE CLINTON’S WHAT TO DO WITH THAT FINGER!!!!!!

Hey Dave, most of Obama’s experience has been on the campaign trail. Sure he has held office longer, but actually “in” office …. nope. The man is a professional campaigner who doesn’t even show up for the committee meetings that would prove the experience/judgement he professes. He’s counting on people who don’t do the research. Are you one of those?

tiolocuaz53
Senator Clinton’s supporters do not support the current division in the Democratic party. We would like to see a level playing field. We are appalled that despite Senator Obama’s pledge to adhere to the decision of the Democratic party when it came to the voters in Michigan, he allowed the party’s plan to expire without signing it. A candidate who believes that he or she has the support of the Democratic voters cannot run in fear from the people’s votes and expect to prevail in the general election. Senator Obama has been given every benefit of the doubt and ample opportunity to talk to us.
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Dave, man, talk about polarizing. You are definately an Obama supporter. No doubt about it. And that makes you a LOSER. In Novemeber of course (if it gets that far for your guy). I have no idea who you are outside of politics.

Wow, this is getting out of hand. Just read President Bill Clinton’s speech in full and one can see that he was insinuating that Obama was not a patriot. Hillary will not win a general election because her negatives are just too high among Americans (democrats,republicans,black, white, men and women). I will say what Gov. Bill Richardson was too nice to say-Hillary for the good of the Party- GET OUT!

What is wrong with this old baboon, Bill Clinton. Shameless brat who does the worst thing ever in the history of man kind. He used his white house for his sick sexuall pleasure. this is the worst power abuse ever heard even in third world countries. Give them a chance and they will burry you, the american people, alive. I can’t tell you how angry I become everytime these greddy respectless morans say things like yesterday.How in the world can any one think of himself as above everybody? Shame on clintons.

Dave Peck, dude, don’t start the mary jane so early.

I THINK CALLING SOMEBODY LIKE OBAME AN IDIOT AND ALL KIND OF NAMES IS A BIT OFF THE LINE.WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLIND BY RACE TO THE POINT OF NOT THINKING RIGHT.I PRAY GOD TO OPEN YOUR MINDS AND SENCE OF REASONING SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND AND SEE THAT AMERICA NEEDS NO OTHER RIGHT NOW,BUT OBAMA.

Uhhhh Dave, maybe you missed the part where I said McCain 08. I mean thanks for the Hillary bashing, but you need to save that for someone who isn’t voting for McCain. Typical Obama Supporter, aincha?

Wanna talk abotu the Rezko trial..lets look at his contributtions to the Clntons, elts talk about her Wall Street contributions, lets talk about travelgate, monicagate, vince foster and denise/marc rich.
we could spend 8 years rehashing the clinton years all over again. Why have they not release the Clinton library list of donors! What’s that all about.
The Clintons are at it again, using every opportunity to cast doubt. Bill is an excellent speaker and he knows exactly what he says and how it will be taken. He is trying to fan the flames of the religious rights and cast doubt about Obama being patriotic. Maybe he listens to the conservative radio stations and has started to beleive them.

You have to stand with Bill Clinton on this one. 20 years of racist bigotry brainwashing and anti-American propaganda has to have a negative impact. That is why Obama got caught not respecting the flag during our National Anthem. That told a story of danger and chance for all Obama “hope” fans. But it looks like the Obama Dems are willing to overlook it.

Bill Clinton didn’t say Obama doesn’t love the country.
Why Obama is so afraid? Maybe he truely is not patriotist?

Look at this: Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, Brazille, Richardson, Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, Keith Obermann, Cafferty etc. are all endorsing Barack Obama, who is a man who is friends and associates with Louis Farrakan, Rev. Wright, Black Panthers, Tony Rezko. They are also endorsing Obama, a man who they know refuses to wear a U.S. flag lapel pin, would not put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance to our flag, whose wife says she has never been proud of our country until now. How stupid they are. The Republicans are going to make mince meat out of Obama in the general election with all the skeletons that are yet to emerge.

Obama is a fake. Look at what he really does. He divides this country. He supports hatred from his church. He throws his own white grandmother under the bus and saves his best friend who hates America. Obama is going to bring on racial wars in America. Obama is not the correct black man for President. He has terrible judgement and forments this racial strife. He has personally insulted all white people by saying his white grandmother is a racist just like all the other white people. He constantly attacks Bill Clinton who is a revered former President. Bill Clinton said good things and he twists the words into the opposite and attacks. I will not vote for Obama. Hillary and Bill gave us prosperity and good times. I support Hillary. She is a wonderful woman. Oops I forgot about discrimination against women. Obama discriminates against his own grandmother and refuses to consider Hillary as VP, He dismisses her with a laugh. He is so incredibly prejudiced against women. He will never unite this country. He is causing a racial war in this country and he is not President. It will be worse. Whatever you say will be attacked as racial by Obama. Paranoid. Look out the end is coming. He will never get elected. I will remain a democrat and vote for McCain. Go Hillary.

I still have my Hillary yard sign. I will not take it down!
I saw some of my neighbor’s Obama yard signs gone away. Ha.

One of the funniest things I have seen so far is the picture of Bill Clinton and Rev. Wright. The Obama camp admitted they distributed it but the press barely covered it. Remember when Obama thought the Clinton camp distributed the photo of him dressed like a muslim? The press almost hung her on the cross. Hmmm.

Flyfisher, would you be talking about the voters in Texas and Ohio?

The race is scam. They say Obama won Alaska..Did they say that they would not sit up polling places for democrats any closer than 400 miles from where I live,and even farther for other Alaskans. I am sick of Obama being rammed down our throats.
Hillary 08!! McCain if not!!

There are only two options here.
Bill Clinton made these remarks open to misinterpretation on purpose or he made them open to misinterpretation by accident.
If you think he did it by accident then you are saying he has lost any skills he ever had as an orator.
And if he did it on purpose, and then denied it, then he lied.

It seems many Americans like to talk about everything here except the candidates proposed administrative policies. It’s pathetic really. Grow up.

ASP, just what are the candidates proposed administrative policies? And last time I checked, the title of the piece was something about a war of words. Did I miss something?

Frank, I thought his point was people are talking about Obama’s losing support but he isn’t and that noone can give reasons for voting for Hillary or McCain. I pointed out that there is a big reason to vote for either one, and that is becasue they are not Obama. What part of that did you have a hard time with?

Frank your thought processes expressed in this form are interesting to say the least. You have jumped from one topic to McCain having a senior moment to a cigar. Is there a schizophrenic candidate running that you support?

When someone says there are only two options, it makes people think of all the other options, Frank. (wink)

“Is there a schizophrenic candidate running that you support?”
Looking at the sock puppets, the cross dressers, the race changers, the fake “democrats”, posting in this thread, I believe you are addressing that question to the wrong man. And the wrong political party.

ASP, there are so many sites you can go to where people talk about all the stuff they think is not irrelevant. This time, here, though, the title is about a war of words. Of all the places to have a complaint about a war of words, this isn’t the best choice.

“And they’re still together. That’s pretty cool…”
… or calculated.
I liked Bill years ago. I was against the absurd Republican attempt to impeach him, and was very forgiving of the lies under oath. I don’t do that any more.

Yes, GS, we should be talking about Obama’s pastor and Obama’s 20 year history with the man he thinks of as family. And speaking of family, how about that “my grnadmother makes me cringe” speech Obama gave?

Yes, Democrat for life.

Bill Clinton has always been precise with his words.
When he said he “did not have sex with that woman”, it meant exactly what he wanted it to mean. The man does not imply by accident.
People say they want Hillary to drop out and support Obama. With friends like Bill, Obama would not need enemies.

Dave, maybe if Obama learns his lesson after this defeat in 08, you can re-use the signs when Obama runs again in 2012.

“you can re-use the signs when Obama runs again in 2012.”
Yep.
He’ll just have to add a “re-” in front of the “Elect Obama”

Learning a second language is difficult, and I applaud anyone who comes to this country legally whether they can speak the language fluently or not. What I find appalling is the idea that we should allow illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. Typical Obama Position that I am against.

lol, tell that to Obama, Frank. At least I phrased it in the form of a question. But I’m not surprised that that is what you came up with …. with the way Obama infers some people are racist simply becasue they breath.

Oh gosh, kitty, don’t tell us you suspect people are using Bill Clinton tactics against you…

“Make this woman your president”, Good one.
Hillary: “I never doubletalk. But I understand why I do it.”

“Umm no, Democrat for life. I’m just wasting some free time.”
Not your grandmother’s grandson then, eh?

OK let me see if I can do this in one post. I am voting for McCain 08. There is no reason to discuss Clinton’s qualities.
Correct, I am not my grandmother’s grandson. It’s impossible for me to be her grandson. (See if you can figure out why) At one point, she purchased a beach house for all of us to waste time in, and we had fun doing it. You don’t get to tell me how to waste my time.

Good question, Andrea.

“Hillary’s supporters do not see McCain as inherently evil like Bush. ”
Ha ha ha,.
“America is under the curse of God”
McCain supporter Rev John Hagee, during the Clinton presidency.

First, let me say that I find Bill Clinton’s speech a good speech. It’s informative, speaks to the issues and is friendly—at least until the end. At the end, the words go out of control, and he directly suggests McCain, the republican, is a better candidate than Obama, the other democrat. I know he wants his spouse to become the nominee, but because he’s prone to losing control, he should pause before making those kinds of controversial statements during a speech. He and Hillary both should pause. It doesn’t look good.
Why did he make the statement? Well, we need only study the effects. Where did the media go after the speech? What became the focus of the campaign? Why is the attention here and not on issues?
The Clintons need to stay out of the Obama campaign, so we the voters can view each candidate on our own. We don’t need the commentary, direct or indirect. We can think for ourselves. We can make judgments on our own. Just give us your position on the issues.
Why bring this up? Once underhanded behavior is brought into the light, it becomes more easily recognized. We voters then stand a better chance of seeing through the behavior and are less likely to be manipulated. The situation is not that big of a deal in itself. It’s a situation in which we should probably conclude, oh, yeah, there goes Bill again out of control. He’s human. But we have the obligation to ask the Clinton campaign to stop these intrusions. They’re annoying and insulting to the voters.

Charles,
You raise a good point. If HRC loses the primary, and gives lukewarm support to Obama, or no support at all, he is doomed. There have already been suggestions that the Clintons see McCain as better qualified than Obama, though that might just be political posturing.
As for myself, I entered this primary pulling for McCain in the Republican primary but have remained neutral on Clinton/Obama/Edwards. I really did want to like Obama, good things had been said, but in the end we just get more and more rhetoric with little that matches it. Not really a Clinton fan either, but I’d give her the edge.
And as far as progressives, leanings which I have, after this recent spat of problems for Obama, and the poor manner in which he has handled them (leading me to see him as just one more savvy politician) I’d go the Nader route.

Saw a bumper sticker today – ‘A woman president? Sure! Just not that one.

Tru Blue,
Valid question was raised. Obama has others do his dirty work for him so that he can preserve his untarnished image. And the media goes along. In the meantime, anything anyone associated with the Clinton campaign (e.g., Ferraro) says the media almost takes it that it’s from HRC’s very own mouth.
There are definite double standards here biased toward Obama. It’s a shame really, because this will ultimately be his downfall in the general election.

Well you guys are alive with discussion

“Obama has others do his dirty work”
Obama AND his supporters have been misquoted, deliberately and flagrantly, so often by you people that the concept of “dirty work” takes a whole new meaning from your mouths.
My favourite was the Republican claim that his recent speech stole a passage from Bill Clinton, which it quoted, even though the passage NEVER WAS IN OBAMA’S SPEECH. So much for dirty work.
Obama and his close supporters have so often been careful not to characterise comments as racist., and then you come here and scream “he called us racists”. So much for dirty work.
ABC digs up less than five minutes of soundbites from a thirty year career to tarnish a preacher. So much for dirty work. It tries to taint Obama by association and then you people get annoyed when your McCarthyism is labelled what it is. Yeah. Most of the dirty work I’ve seen has been pretty explicit. Just not from Mr Obama.

Again, Mr. Bill Clinton speaks, and sullies and denigrates the office that he was privileged to hold.

Both Bill and Hillary are in fourth gear trying anything they can think of to get Hillary the nomination. Too bad that nothing they can come up with is going to work. Bill has squandered anything positive that might have been left of his legacy. They both are just two pathetic people showing how scurrilous, devious and scandalous they truly are. The sooner they’re off the American political scene the better.

“All in all, I don’t care about trivial things like this, little squabbles. ”
All in all, it’s all you got.

As for the I was never a Democrat. Yes I was. I’m an independent thinker. I support the candidate that represents my vision or something close to it. I am actually ashamed to be a Democrat now. I can’t believe this party would actually consider disenfranchising any voters after what we went through with Gore no matter who it benefits. That is the holy grail of US politics is that everyone’s vote should count. It’s extremely dangerous to challenge that notion.
JA. I understand your frustration. I feel as though Obama just staged a political “coup” against the Clintons. It makes me kind of sick to see Richardson, Kerry, Daschle, Pelosi, willing to split the party apart. They really should have remained neutral.
I do wish that Obama would have waited, paid his dues, instead of staging his coup against the Clintons. I don’t see how things are better now. The party would have been united months ago if he would have just waited.
McCain strengths are Hillary’s strengths. They are both strong, they have paid their dues. They have served. They know what it takes. They are tough and gritty. They are tested. It is not such a big leap of faith in support of one or the other.

“I support the candidate that represents my vision or something close to it.”
Rubbish. Clinton and Obama are closest on almost any issue you care to mention than Clinton and McCain, to the extent that you people often spend your time accusing Obama of lifting her policies. You can’t have things both ways.
I don’t see the bit where Hillary has supporters who believe the destruction of Jerusalem will bring Jesus back

What I don’t understand about clinton supporters, is that these people have been and continue to be linked to so many scandals and just because they know how to manipulate things politically does’nt make them any better then the way Bush and the republicans do the same. If it was a score about evil deeds, lets see, Clintons=lost count
Obama=3 and oh, by the way, the reason the Clintons are not pushing the Rezco thing so hard is Rezco also raised hundreds of thousands to them as well…. so I have to choose the one of lesser evils and voting always comes down to that.

Frank and Peace and Love,
I am hispanic. And definitely not a Republican (I see McCain more as an opportunistic Republican, and really an independent).
What amuses me are people like you two, who have no arguments but just ad hominem attacks. Just like the rest of the pols who I have grown weary of. Why can’t we just accept the fact that all of these candidates are opportunistic and move on, discuss issues, credentials, etc.?

JA
As I said, people are whoever they want to be on the internet.
What amuses me is people who see personal attack and “ad hominem” as coming from only one side.
The fact is that ABC News and Fox News are not fora where one can indulge in serious political debate. That takes goodwill on both sides, and people using only one identity and sticking with it, as well as exhibiting integrity and a willingness for serious debate.
EVERY comment about Obama here is ad hom. I am frankly amazed you don’t see that

A “true” Democrat would have waited another 4 years just like Hillary did when Kerry ran. The had the clout to do it but it wasn’t what was best for the party so she waited.
If Obama was in for it for the party and not himself, he would have waited instead of tearing the party apart. He knew coming in that this would likely split the party in half like it has and he has done it.
Tell me who is selfish traitor to the party now.

Frank, EVERY? What do you think of the Global Poverty Act?

Randle, people complain that Bill wasn’t tending to the nations business while he was screwing around. Isn’t that an argument for wanting him to be screwing around while she’s the president. He will be too busy to pull any strings.

It’s sad how this prolonged primary by the Clintons and the super delegates has turned dems against each other.
People we don’t need Bush 3 (McCain)

Yes, Charles. This was the plan.

Yes, it’s really sad how this prolonged primary has turned the dems against each other, tukss. About half the democrats would disagree with you on the reasons why, though.

The Clintons did alot for the democratic party, but they also did allot of things by force to the dems as well. A secret servey already done in the house and the senate already showed 84 percent want Obama to get the nod but due to the looks and feel they get from the Clintons as well as some of the funding, they are afraid to come out, which is why they are doing it so slow.

Peace and Love,
Read my above excerpt re Nader. You seem to be one of those people who know very little about Obama and are just going by what the media feeds you. Pursue these questions that Nader asks. See where it takes you. Don’t let others make up your mind for you.

TowHappy,
I’m of the same mind. However, he does raise the RIGHT QUESTIONS.

TowHappy,
Interesting thing is that Obama, nor you for that matter, have an answer for these very good questions.

Well first, this poll was taken last week, and second, although Nader is asking the right questions, its from the wronge person. The only airplay Nader is going to get is in the general at the debates and if Nader is so influential, why the hell does he keep getting his campaghns federally funded on our dime?

Well Ja, if you google obama in allot of his local Chicago papers, you will see great things that he HAS DONE for his community and JA you seem to be very intelligent and informed so you should also be smart enough to know that NADER must ask some attention grabbing questions because he gets none and 2, the media did there homework and there isn’t much to Naders question.

Peace and Love,
I agree the media is full of distortion, unfortunately it is distortion in favor of Obama, not against him.
To just trust what a politician says of himself is quite naive.
And what are “JW films”?

Who died and said Hillery should be the nominee before the conception of a democratic nomination race?

Peace and Love,
Are you trying to assume the identity of Rev Wright?? haha

JA, Obama had a relationship with a slumlord, so I think we know that answer to that part of your question. That would have been biting the hand that feeds you.

JA…..What the hell do you think he can do by himself in the senate? Mayor or Gov maybe, but we are talking about bills that need a bunch of approvals as well as the presidents stamp. WHICH HAS BEEN A REPUBLICAN HOUSE FOR most of his time there

Randle,
Hilary probably did nothing. I’m not a HRC diehard supporter, you have me confused with someone else.
My point is solely that you people are very uninformed about Obama. He is not the man you so desperately want to believe he is.
I know at this moment in our history we desperately want someone authentically just, a real leader, HONEST, ambitious only for our country and not for him or herself….but Obama is NOT that person.

I never said Obama was the next coming, please don’t confuse that, if you scroll up, I Said he is the LESSER of the 2 evils JA

“Among the pork-barrel spending requests Barack Obama has made since arriving in the U.S. Senate is $1 million for the hospital where his wife worked at the time and $8 million for weapons technology made by a big defense contractor with close ties to a major fundraiser.”
“In among them was a request for $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals, where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time. The request was not ultimately included when Congress passed spending legislation that year, according to the Obama campaign.
That same year, Obama requested $8 million in funding for “High Explosive Air Burst Technology” made by General Dynamics, a military contractor with close ties to a major fundraiser.”

TowHappy,
I missed that post where you said lesser of two evils. I can see how would one would argue that Obama is a lesser evil than Clinton; however, consider what the result was of voting into office someone with little experience (Bush).

Clintons porkbarrel request speak volumes so please don’t. Yes he did what the average politicians do when it comes to looking out for who they know but there is not enuf space to put what the clintons are and continue to be connected to and if I grasp this conversation in the right text, its ok for the Clintons to do shady deals in the 100 million range because we at least know how they operate?

TowHappy,
My point is not to portray Clinton as a saint, surely she is NOT. And as I have said, I am not a HRC diehard fan.
But the question raises itself: Given that Obama’s appeal is that he is not a politician (in the pejorative sense), and given that he seems to commit the sins of all other politicians, why would I vote for him over HRC given they have virtually the same proposals?
If Obama loses the “good guy” appeal, what’s left really but a young politician with little experience and no track record?

If Obama loses the “good guy” appeal, what’s left really but a young politician with little experience and no track record?
That’s what he has been all this time…The rest was all theatre.

TowHappy,
Bill Clinton had FAR more experience than Obama when he ran. Not to say that he was very experienced, especially not in comparison to Bush Sr, but Obama is very very unseasoned.

“I was, in terms of experience, was closer to Senator Obama, I suppose, in 1988 when I came within a day of announcing,” Mr. Clinton said in a interview on “Political Capital with Al Hunt” that was scheduled to be broadcast tonight on Bloomberg television and again this weekend.
Mr. Clinton did not run that year, he added, because “I really didn’t think I knew enough, and had served enough and done enough to run.”
The former president quickly noted that he did not mean Mr. Obama should not be pursuing the nomination. But he said that compared to Mr. Obama, who went from the Illinois Legislature to the United States Senate in 2005, Mr. Clinton had far more experience when he finally did run in 1992, as governor of Arkansas for nearly 12 years and as a leader of national policy initiatives.”

Thank you TowHappy, I don’t hate anyone really myself. I do however find it hard to believe that you were a Clinton supporter, are not that crazy about O, the lesser of two evils and yet you are compelled to go on this site to post in his defense. Hmmmm?

First irma, to tell you the truth, I never liked Hillery, but I LOVE BILL and that is why she was getting my vote, but now that even Bill is turning me off, nowhere else to go besides OBAMA and Ja, I understand the politics on his side as well but don’t see him phrasing “vote with your districts” as a threat, just a way to secure his hard work from being twisted away from him AND to throw more attention on it since WE ALL KNOW the Clintons are a force that could make it happen. It was a statement made for protection.

TowHappy,
Fair enough. I think we are probably in agreement on most points, only I haven’t yet decided who is the lesser of the two evils (since there are many possible evils at play here).
Nice chatting with you though. I’m off to sleep.

Bottom line is this people, they made us fall for OBAMA before truly vetting him as they are now, and the CLINTONS underestimated him as a canidate and truth be told, had they saw him as the threat he is now, they would have killed him whith the stuff they are doing now, BUT, alot are shaking their heads because there is no way out of nominating him without killing the party.
Lemme pose this question to all, even if Barrak goes into the convention with say 5 more deligates then the Clintons, in this society, DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM A BLACK GUY? Risk marches, loosing the black vote, maybe even riots from people who wouldn’t understand? There honestly would be no explanation they could give no matter how bad Clinton wants it. At this stage in the race, giving it to Ms. Clinton would be giving McCAIN THE KEYS. Nominate him, let him loose, then run again in 4 years.

By the way, I am white but not stupid. They could explain an OBAMA nomination allot esier then a Clinton one at this point. You have, AL sharpton, Jackson, and allot of others to name a few that would catipult a clinton nomination like an olympic event. We can nominate her, but she wouldn’t get elected due to the road she took to get the nomination and by the numbers. I live in the real world people, not what I want, just the way it is.

I looked up to Hillary since age 8 when I saw her in a sea of men during the Water Gate hearings. She was the one shuffling papers, writing and really working. I have never forgotten that image. I didn’t know she was Hillary Clinton until 1992. I read her books and I share her philosophy. I do feel sorry for her not being as “skilled” with people as Bill is, but that just means he is a better B.S.’er. Whenever she tries to “act” something out, she’s awful at it. Yet when she speaks what she believes, the person Bill must love comes through. Chelsea obviously looks up to her and Hillary did a fantastic job with her daughter, under circumstances that a lot of people would never be able to cope with. Hillary is obviously highly intelligent. Aside from “harsh” politics, she has causes that she believes in and she holds values that I share. I would be proud to vote for Hillary as a leader.

Hillary has Republicans who like and speak well of her, McCain being one of them. As for Democrats, they’re all making deals right now. The loyal one’s such as Tubbs, Waters and Ferraro and many more are completely behind her.

READING THIS BARRAGE OF MESSAGES, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO VOTE EITHER FOR HILLARY OR OBAMA, AND THEREFORE NEARLY ALL WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT FOR McCAIN, NOT VOTE AT ALL OR
VOTE FOR NADER (WHICH IS THE SAME AS NO VOTING!)
By the way: a language confusion as McCains is the same or less bad as OBAMAS “President of Canada” (he will have problems with the Queen!). Of course either means nothing !
TOM

I agree Cannon, and IRMA, lets just say I work in a state democratic office, (totally true), and my boss is a state senator and the buzz around is that we wish we threw more behind Richardson but the real support was behind Obama from some older senators before the race began due to ongoing power struggles within the party with the Clintons. I can tell you that we don’t like the numbers with a McCain and Obama matchup because he is not strong enuf to get the white vote across the board but now even she is not strong enough to get the aa votes BUT she is making some serious enemies now within the party with certain things going on out of public view but they ar gonna step in soon and end this. They started outside the senate to test the waters,(Richardson) and slowly they will come out because unless he can make a speech that will vet the average white vote, we are doomed, but Clinton is also doomed. Most in the senate realize that to give her the nod now, will tear us apart within the DNC. There is no easy way out of this. Deals continue to try to be struck with Ms. Clinton but she won’t waver instead threatning DNC harm.
What she continues to miss is they,we can’t take it from him unless she sweeps the hell out of him for the rest oof the contests. hopefully you uunderstand this better because some of uus just want a better person besides the 2 we got, but the harm to the DNC will be far greater if we give her the nod, rather then just another failed election.

Just 2 give you all insight, this political senate fight has been going long before the race, between Kennedy and HIll, and maybe that will answer some questions about people publicaly backkin ob

It is the end of the night people and I have sleep to get but Obama is the unsaid nominee and the media doesnt want to say it but the word in congress and the senate is just that. The repubs talk to the dems around here and pass the word to MCain which is why he and others continue to go after OBAMA, the problem is so isn’t Clinton so when we hand him the torch, its gonna go dim anyways.

Tow: This shouldn’t even have been a close election. The dems should have taken the presidency easily, yet it already seems lost to me. So, why should most of care about the DNC? If what you are saying is true, I sincerely hope HRC does tear down the democratic party. It needs to be torn up, so it can redefine itself. Heck, on the national level I’m not seeing how the DNC even functional at this point.
This being said, I hope I’m surprised at the convention. While I certainly don’t expect anything other than a weak candidate and a loss in November there is the hope that somehow the two candidates can hold their noses, hold hands, and move forward towards an almost certain victory. The odds would change from about 10% to 90% and all the insiders would get to keep their jobs. Can’t party leaders see this?

UNDERSTAND THIS URMA, no one anticipated this, and Hill and Bill made alot of enemieswith back door force so allot of feelings towards her are stale. When she ran for the senate of NY, she stomped on another democrat who had to sit that race out because her and bill felt that would be a good base to make her have some sort of history. If she would have just ran in Arkansaw or where she grew up, we wouldn’t have this division in the senate in the first place. Bill came and twisted allot of arms to place her on a NY ticket because thats where his office was gonna be and it wasn’t fair, but out of fear and intimidation, she became a NY senator bought and paid for by their powerful donors in NYC so please know the history before you make rash judgements. You won’t find allot of what I know in her books or on display for the public and I understand you are a true hill believer thru and thru, but it doesnt change the actions the Clintons took that got her the reputation she has in the senate. Make no mistake, there are 2 power plays going here, diminish the Clinton power within the DNC because they truly were not kind to there own politically when she got here. The only cover junior senators had in these walls when she did unfair things was TED

Cannon, this DNC means more then Hill and if we have to hand it to OB just to see him loose, then thats livable verses give it to hill and not only loose, but create a vacumm of other events that would surely rip the party to points I can’t even imagine and I been around these hacks 8 plus. Trust me, HE IS THE NOMINEE, and although it will sting, but not before they join and rip the Clinton Legacy and even Bill doesn’t want that but it is very ugly in the halls towards the Clintons right now because she has even threatened some senior people with caos and they might tear her down. Yes, she is a “Clinton”, but if she keeps up the back door things, I believe they will damage her NY Support as well as publicly.

Here’s why they’re to blame; Kennedy and Kerry. The people like and want the Clintons. Why did TED screw with this. He helped to create this screwed up wedge. DEMS would have been in with the Clintons. All this junk came from that distructive driven Kennedy.

The bottom line is that Obama does not yet have sufficient experience to assume the presidency. It would have been much better for him to have gained the experience and run when he was more capable of leading. His main claim to fame is his ability to deliver a well prepared speech. As it stands, he may have detroyed his chances for both the present and the future. Time would have allowed him to distance himself from the rantings of Rev. Wright and, actually, go beyond the platitudes. He has also been the victim one time too often. It is difficult to be critical of him without being called a racist and that gets old. Mr. Obama is an extraordinarily divisive personality. I’m not sure that the Democrats can survive him in an election that should easily be won by them. The McCarthism comment is laughable. Bill Clinton has done more for this country than Obama can even begin to conceptualize.

We know Obamas flaws now more then ever but we are stuck with him and it is not a joy, he is just the lesser of the 2. If you truly had the pleasure of working with both you would see that ones ways of doing business is completely diff from the other

Well, to tell you the truth, it wss floated to the Obama camp first within the party, but Hill had to go and start saying it publicly without OB agreeing and that killed it.

Finnally, your starting to understand why we can’t give it to hill.
Give it to hill, we loose the DNC as we know it, Give it to OB, we keep the DNC intact but loose the race but can reclaim it 4 years later because just because Mcsame is in the Big House, he needs the other 2 houses to get the job done so the DNC will still run the country behind the scenes, BUT we loose all power plus allot of seats and elections from mass defections if we gave it to hill due to the fact that half of america are simple.
1+1=2 and thats hard to eplain if the numbers are on his side but we gave it to her and as I said b4, Hill made enemies long b4 this process..

Most HRC supporters would support OB as president, and HRC as vice president. If OB won and she refused, he’d still get most of our support and I’m assuming it would go the same with HRC on top.

By the way, Hill said she only would ecept a ticket on top so thats out unless she changes her mind

“2009: Your comment about teenage supporters having no knowledge of history was spot-on. They confuse electing the chief executive of the world’s most powerful political and economic entity with picking a favorite on American Idol.”
Yeah, democracy’s a b!tch isn’t it?
Just try living somewhere without it.

Hillary needs to stay in. Obama lost many of his original supporters once they became aware of his 20 year support of a man who preaches against America and white people. The speach affect of his campaign wore off and people started looking at the actions (or more like inaction) of him. There is going to be lots of pressure on the superdelegates who will ultimately have to look at the reality of the general election and who can actually win. This Wright thing is not going to go away. No matter how much the Obama camp tries to divert it, Americans will not forget or forgive GD America or anyone who supports that behavior. It won’t happen.

If the Democrats keep reversing themselves by seating any of the delegates from Michigan or Florida which would be in direct violation of the rules of the DNC, then any credibility they might have gained in recent months with the voting public is out the window. Hillary and Bill need to drop out of the race, commit their delegates to Obama, get the Gov. of Ohio as VP candidate and try to win in Nov. In the real world it will not matter who is Pres. the economy will be an issue and so will the terrorists when they attack us again which is much more certain than the economy going bad.

One can compare Rev Wright’s hate filled sermons with a madrasa .. and how Al queda brainwashes young generations into hate .. and if Obama really wants to displace the racial divide in this country he should have ran away from Rev Wright well before the DVD’s were shown to America … he will now have to suffer the consequences of his poor judgement ..

The DNC has credability? Where is that coming from?
Jock: why do Obama supporters always bring up her tax returns? Wouldn’t be to change the subject would it? It is unbelievable that you keep bringing this up when it’s not April 15 yet! Bad tax return or not (Obama hasn’t released all his past tax returns by the way), why would that switch my vote over to your arrogant, non-electable candidate?
Hillary ’08 or bust!

Obama is a goner. He will not be the first African American president. Michelle Obama can go back to being “not proud of her country”.

This is easy to fix. Just call President Clinton back in front of a camera and ask him if believes that Barack Obama is every bit as patriotic and Hillary Clinton and John McCain. And p.s. why is he touting John McCain? Isn’t he supposed to be one of us?

Saying something negative about an immediate family member (who raised you and loved you) in order to justify one’s political position is just about as close to throwing someone under the bus as you can get without actually doing it.
If Wright did become so close to him that he was virtually a family member, and so cannot just disown him, then fine. You can keep him close to you. But you should NOT be attending his services and stay a member of his Church when he is promoting racial divide – nor have him marry you to your wife, baptise your children, and expose your children to his hate speech.
If Obama is unable to separate his personal affection for someone from what’s best for his family, then I can tell you outright this man will not be able to handle office. There was an ongoing lapse of judgment on his part, one that last over a decade. The options are 1. Obama believes to some extent what Wright preaches or 2. Obama does not believe what Wright preaches but found it difficult to separate himself from him. (I will not grant you 3. Ignorance, because that is a load of BS).
Your choice George. Choose wisely.

Imagine Obama has won the Presidency.
And GOD FORBID, we have another 9/11 or its equivalent.
Then imagine President Obama has invited his spiritual advisor to the White House .. none other than Pastor Wright.
Then imagine he has invited his church to the Rose Garden and his spiritual advisor is delivering a similar speech like the one he delivered after the 9/11 2001.
Now, if this all seems cool to you, if this feels like the right thing for you, if this makes you feel proud and safe, if this give you hope, then you vote Obama.

Just because you are ahead in points at the end of the 3rd quarter does not mean you have won the football game.
No reason for Hillary to drop out.
Hillary, stay in there and should you lose the democratic nomination, please accept the VP position from MCCain if he offers it to you.
MCCain/Hillary ticket is, potentially, a winning ticket.
It is better than a MCCain/Romney ticket.
Good luck, Hillary.

The Clintons sordid past is an open book—the Travelgate, Pardongate, Chinagate, cattle-futures, Whitewater scandals; the using Marines as waiters; the IRS auditing of critics; the hiring of detectives to dig up dirt on women seduced by Bill; the Monica Lewsinki trysts in the rooms of the White House; the 50+ deaths by murder, suicide, accidents and sudden illnesses of people connected the Clinton regime; the Impeachment.
All that is bound to come out and derail the schemes of the Clintons machine to retake power. McCain 08!

I am a proud Canadian watching from the sidelines American politics turn into a soap opera of all sorts. And who are the actual losers? Not the Clintons. Not Obama. Yes, you all, the American people, because you are being deprived of the privilege to determine which candidate really meets those issues more important to you: your health, your declining economy and popularity, your children’s education, the Iraq war, etc. It is a shame that much emphasize is given around dirty politics and rhetorics such that the most important element in this whole picture is completely left out in the cold: you, the American people so desperately needing a good leader who can lead you in these difficult times. My heart goes to all of you. However, like it or not: I think McCain will be the next US President. This will be my first and last posting so I bid you adieu and good luck. GOD BLESS AMERICA!