Mar 2, 2008 4:49pm

What Should We Expect to Hear from Camp Clinton Tuesday Night?

I think the Clinton campaign is quite prepared to continue after Tuesday, even if she gets trounced in Texas delegates. In fact, I think many Hillary Clinton supporters expect that will happen.

The hypothetical some Clinton supporters posit — Barack Obama wins Vermont, Rhode Island is close, Clinton wins Ohio, Obama wins delegates in Texas but the popular vote is either close or perhaps Clinton wins it.

(As you may know, the Texas system is thought to favor Obama for two main reasons: First, one third of the delegates will be chosen in an evening caucus, and the organization and enthusiasm of the Obama campaign means he has done well in caucuses. Second, two-thirds of the delegates will be chosen in a primary where Obama-leaning districts — black, upwardly mobile white — have more delegates. Why do they have more delegates? Because those districts turned out to vote for the Democrat in 2004 and 2006.)

In any case, if that’s the scenario, and Clinton can claim at least two if not three victories (Texas popular vote being one of them), I don’t get the feeling that Sen. Clinton will be at all inclined to drop out.

The questions her supporters may ask if that scenario plays out:

If — after 11 straight wins and outspending Clinton 3-to-1 — Obama can’t put her away in two big states, what does that say about his strength as a candidate?

What does it say about what Democrats want?

Will it show that Obama has a glass jaw on national security? If he can’t beat Clinton on that debate — if her "Children" ad works — her campaign may continue to make the case to voters (and to superdelegates) that McCain will eat his lunch on the issue

If neither of the two candidates can reach the magic number of delegates to clinch the nomination, why should Clinton be the one to drop out? "She could go on vacation for the next six weeks and he still wouldn’t be able to wrap it up," is a common refrain.

Is there not a big double standard in the expectations game? If their situations were reversed, they say, no one would be calling for Obama to drop out. They’d be calling for her to put him on the ticket.

These open primaries have allowed independents and even Republicans into what’s supposed to be a Democratic process. Some hypothesize that according to exit polls Clinton has actually won Democratic voters, and Obama is only ahead because of the non-Democratic riff-raff. Isn’t that relevant?

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Please note: Those are not my questions, it’s what I imagine we may hear from Clintonistas Tuesday night, unless Obama has a stellar evening.

The bottom line is I do NOT get the impression at all that even if Obama walks away with even more of a delegate advantage Tuesday, Clinton will be inclined to drop out.

What say you?

- jpt

User Comments

Hillary should go on NO MATTER what!!! No one will have enough delegates by August, so it is anyone’s game. In the 6 months to the convention, anything could happen–My bet is a major scandal will destroy Obama and leave Hillary as the nominee!
Hillary08

Posted by: Debbie | March 2, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

WestCoastMessenger says: “remember that rabbit versus the tortoise story? HehHeh.”
Well your girl best turn herself into da rabbit here real quick if she is going to catch Mr. O., cause she’s way behind and the clock is ticking down, down, down…..

Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 2, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

ABC is good: Anything But Clinton.
I would say ABCD- Anything But Clinton or a Democrat.
Arabs for McCain

Posted by: Nacer | March 2, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Even if Clinton were to drop out what makes any of you Obama dreamers think any of us would even consider voting for Obama? Had I wanted to vote Obama I would have done so already. Not gonna happen now or later. Should Hillary come to my house in person she would not change my feelings, period. To listen to you Obama folks demanding Hillary withdraw only makes me even more determined to vote anyone but Obama, period.

Posted by: Wil | March 2, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

The question we should be debating is: “What will happen in the general elections” if Senator Obama is the nomminee regarding the Rezko connection? Democrats: WAKE UP!!
Senator Obama’s JUDGEMENT IS COMPROMISED: When he had something to gain (MANSION, WHICH HE COULD NOT AFFORD BY THE WAY!!!), HIS JUDGEMENT WAS TO USE QUESTIONABLE DEALS WITH REZKO, A KING OF CORRUPTION UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.
As a Legal Expert, Senator Obama should have known. He is claiming that he had missed those red flags.
I am saying that HIS JUDGEMENT IS BAD! DEMOCRATS: DO NOT GIVE REPUBLICANS RED MEAT TO FEAST ON. DO NOT VOTE A THIRD BUSH TERM.
OBAMA = THIRD TERM FOR BUSH! This is very bad for the Democratic Party. If you love the Democratic Party and you love this Nation, VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
For now, WE NEED MORE ANSWERS FROM SENATOR OBAMA. He has had many years to tell us the whole truth. Yet, until this day, we are still waiting for the truth! WHERE IS THE GOOD JUDGEMENT???
GOOOOOOOOOOOO HILLARY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Nkolo | March 2, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

I’m afraid the Clinton campaign will simply continue to pay their supporters. Here is the report of a blogger from Dallas:
“I stopped at the intersection of Lovers Lane and Greenville this afternoon, and immediately noticed people standing on each corner (and on a couple of the medians) holding Hillary Clinton signs. Another thing immediately apparent, especially because of the race and gender issues in this presidential election, was that each person holding a sign was black.
I rolled down the window to ask one of the men what group the sign-holders belonged to, and he told me Southern Fried Marketing. I asked if they supported Hillary Clinton for president, and he replied: “Paid for.”
It struck me as interesting, and I wondered why the Clinton campaign had chosen that intersection as opposed to others I had driven through (though I guess there could have been Hillary signs all over Dallas today). I don’t know how long they were there because a couple of hours later when I drove through again, construction crews were tearing up the left turn lanes from Greenville onto Lovers, with no sign holders in sight. I’ll be glad when those new double left turn lanes and right-hand turn lanes are finished.”
Hillary Clinton has been, is, and will be running joke among the future historians of American politics and society. Please let her stay in the race. We love to laugh out loud. As Lucretius learned us, it can be a pleasant sensation to watch a ship sinking when the one who watches is on solid ground.

Posted by: Dallas | March 2, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Whatever is wrong with letting everybody vote before you declare a winner? Isn’t this a democracy? I see nothing wrong with both candidates staying in the race until everyone has had their say.

Posted by: jock59801 | March 2, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

BKMC did you forget to mention Obama voted the same way in the senate for Iraq war votes? Perhaps you aught to check the Obama web site and get your talking points in line with the program.

Posted by: Wil | March 2, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

If she wants to ever become president, she has to keep going.
If I were her, I would keep going, force a negotiation, force myself onto the vice presidential ticket as being completely “independent” from Obama, and then run again in 2012. This is the best way to keep her “legacy” in tact while providing a future opportunity to run.
Another possibility is to keep going in the hope that the pressure from her campaign and the newly skeptical media peters out Obamamania. She might not get chosen, but it would help out McCain who would be 76 in the next go around.
There might be a do-over in Florida, which ups they chances of staying in. Obama does worse there against McCain than does Clinton according to Rasmussen.

Posted by: emo chalk | March 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Hillary should already had the decency to backed Obama and gotten out of the race. If Obama gets more delegates, whatever rules, tuesday, then Hillary must give up and stop harming the party. On Obama, on—save America fromt the Clintons and Bushs.

Posted by: rockychance | March 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Hillary ASSUMED she was going to be appointed the democratic nominee after Super Tuesday. Since then she has been in denial that an upstart (Obama) could or would dare beat her.
She’s run an inept campaign and the majority of democrats have rejected her message.

Posted by: Matt | March 2, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Dallas I did not see Clinton supporters, paid or not, on any corner today. In any case I cancel your vote for the new messiah and hope the original Messiah, the real thing, stays intact. And as many of you Obama supporter suggest, Obama is a gift from God, is the only real and lasting joke I’ll remember.

Posted by: Wil | March 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Hillary ASSUMED she was going to be appointed the democratic nominee after Super Tuesday. Since then she has been in denial that an upstart (Obama) could or would dare beat her.
She’s run an inept campaign and the majority of democrats have rejected her message.

Posted by: Matt | March 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Please Texas, please Ohio…
the thought that we can finally be rid of the Clintons…
we don’t need them; in fact, what we need is to move beyond them
Texas, Ohio… dare to dream

Posted by: rst | March 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

No one is telling Mike Huckabee to stop. Why is it different for Hillary? Why give it to Obama when he isn’t that far ahead? For the good of the party you will ignore half of the voters and pick your guy to lead us. If she does get pushed out, why should her supporters be any happier than the Obama folks who are whining about superdelegates while he is buying and strongarming them daily ? Stay in Hillary; we still are there for you.

Posted by: KC+1701 | March 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Actually Bill Clinton helped to come up with the Texas caucus system. I as a Texas resident will also vote tuesday and caucus that night. GO OBAMA

Posted by: TexasRules | March 2, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

If the tables were turned and it was Obama that failed to win 11 straight states he would have been pressured to drop out of the race long before now. And I imagine he would have dealt with it with way more dignity and respect for his opponent than Hillary has shown to hers. I was a HIllary supporter at one time. I also voted for Bill Clinton twice. But watching how ineffectively she’s run her campaign and the scorned ways she’s responded to her opponent, weakened my support for her weeks ago. Hearing that she now potentially plans to sue my state Democratic Party if the results in our election aren’t to her benefit makes me want to smack her with a “stop whining” stick. She wants to divert her potential losses in these two states to now say that if Obama doesn’t win all 4 states he shouldn’t be the nominee. She’s unable to get the results that she wants so she’s now trying to raise the bar for her opponent since she can’t lower it for herself.
I find it awesome, this opportunity I have as a feminist in this free country of ours to vote for the right person for this particular time in history. And it is surprising to me that it’s not a woman. To vote for a candidate just because she is a woman and not because she is the best candidate, completely undermines the strides we have taken as a gender in this country. We fought for our right to vote, and we still fight for equality on so many levels. We as women are held to a different standard, we have to work twice as hard and be four times as sharp as our male counterparts. And so I find it really difficult to support a female candidate who rides on her husband coattails, and conducts herself with a sense of entitlement in regards to this nomination. Her, “I’m a fighter” stance comes across more as “I’m a sore loser.”

Posted by: chella | March 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

I don’t believe that Hillary Clinton would ever accept being Barack Obama’s vice presidential nominee. Hillary is running a campaign based on her assertion that she is “Ready on day 1″. The implication (and it is correct) is that Barack Obama is not. I think her message will certainly be pointed out in a debate with John McCain. Whether people like to admit it or not, the Democratic party is no longer united. I think if Hillary Clinton does not win the nomination, the Republicans win in November.

Posted by: Nina | March 2, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Ummm, NO Jake,
Obama will blow her out in Texas by double digits and she’ll squeak by in Ohio. He’ll win Vermont with 70% but will lose Rhode Island 60-40. He’ll go up in pledged delegates by 210. And there’ll be a chorus calling for her to drop out after Gov. Richardson endorses Obama.

Posted by: ROB | March 2, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

I am, of course, not the first to point out that, “if their situations were reversed,” pressure brought to bear by party leaders and by the media would long since have conspired to push Obama out of the race.
Notice that, with every loss, Clinton claims that she’s going to win BIG the next time and then we’ll see who’s got the mo.’
When, a week or so before those contests are run, it becomes all too clear that she’s not going to win THOSE big either, she distributes a revised definition of winning.
The media lets everyone know what the new rules are, so that when she loses — again — no one is surprised, and she can tell us all how determined she is to win the NEXT round.
Of course, the media are MUCH harder on her, don’t you know.
What a joke.

Posted by: horizonr | March 2, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Mariann Pepitone: STOP TRYING TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE in America. I am a Hillary Clinton supporter but if she does not win the popular vote, that means she could not hold her own. I will be voting for Barrack Obama. Stop trying say what all Americas are going to do because you have not interviewed everyone in America. I don’t believe all America’s voting for Hillary called you and told you this either.

Posted by: Carma | March 2, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Strange how the Obama camp wants Hillary to drop out before they get deeper into the Rezko trial.

Posted by: SJ | March 2, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

I am all for a woman president……Just not Hillary……..

Posted by: Todd | March 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

After the absolutely disgraceful way Howard Dean, Donna brazile and the DNC have treated Senator Clinton, not to mention the press and the good ole boys club, I doubt the Senator will drop out. why should she? Her supporters will write her name on the ballot if she doesn’t start and Independent party. We will never support the sham inept incompetent unqualified puppet pawn of kennedy adn kerry and crew. Senator CLinton has at least half of the Democratic voters, the REAL ONES, NOT the Democrat for a Day people that Obama and company solicited who will immediately go back to being Republicans in the General election, and she indeed probably has more real democratic support than obama. She should fight this all the way to the convention and fight to seat the Florida and Michigan voters. If the idiotic democratic primary system were fair, with a winner take all strategy like the Republicans, she would be way ahead of Obama in delgate counts. why shoule she and her supporters suffer form the idiocy and bias of the DNC and give yet anotehr free pass to her opponent? i say she stays in until the last dog dies. the Democratic party and the DNC hasn’t lifted a finger to help her so why should she give a rat’s behind about what they or anyone else thinks?
Rise hillary.

Posted by: basil | March 2, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

I am an indepedent and I am not excited to see a repulican in oval office next year. But this is the truth and all this because of big politics inside democratic party…thanks to Clintons. I had hoped and prayed for a liberal as I can’t take 4 or 8 yrs of non- functioning administration anymore. If she gets the nomination, mccain and republican functionaries would crush her..granted she has more expereince…but is it quality experience? she will definitely be crushed by repulican propaganda…if obama wins the nomination..she will make it difficult for him to win…in fact she has given a lot of ammunition to republicans already….she has already polarized the party….why she needs to believe that oval office is her birth right? she has done engough for American people and the people appreciate it.but she should dnow understand her limitation….let the party’s agenda be above that her silly ambitions…why can’t CLinton loyalist see that…. Democractic party is head for south…and neither clinton loyalist will win nor will they let any democrat to win…I was proud of Bill Clinton..but now looking back it is probably the greatest liability of the democratic party ( even more than what Bush Jr. is to Republican). I am sorry to say….but I don’t see how a factured democratic party can unite us…however unfortunate it may be..I will vote for McCain

Posted by: KN | March 2, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

It’s *way* too early for Hillary to think of dropping out. Look at the popular vote – it’s very close. The argument that Democrats have rejected her is simply wrong. As far as people being paid, the Obama campaign has given several times more money to superdelegates than Hillary’s campaign. Check your facts, folks.

Posted by: Christine | March 2, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Hillary has run a republican style smear campaign against Obama since Super Tuesday. Since then, she has run not on her own policies, but on attacking him.
The truth is that she has no more relevant experience than Obama. She is 60, he is 46, so she has more life experience than he.
What Clinton (and McCain) supporters fail to grasp is that this country is hungry for change and a leader that has the will to push for change. Obama is that leader. And regardless whether you bring up Obama’s middle name, his failure to wear a flag lapel pin, his wearing of native guard while on a trip to Africa, or other smear, it will not stop the continuing support Obama continues to attract based on his notion of HOPE.

Posted by: Matt | March 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Why should Hillary yield to Obama? The difference in delegates is so small between them. If Hillary is forced to yield, a large fraction of democrats (for your information, Hillary got ~50% popular votes so far) will sit out the general election in November. Only when the democratic process plays it out, can democrats be unifed in the general election.

Posted by: R. M. | March 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

The primary season must continue. Obama is just now being vetted by the media. THe party should not want to crown a nominee whose political sidekick is just going on trial this week.
PA and the other states deserve their turn.
Let the race continue – so that both candidates are scrutinized equally before a nominee is decided.

Posted by: Marie | March 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Basil, Obama supporters seem to think (too much stupid juice again) Hillary supporters will atomically vote for Obama should Hillary drop out. Never happen. Had I wanted to vote Obama I would have done so a long time ago. The spit is real and growing wider every day. BTW, it isn’t Hillary causing the split. The split is partly caused by the Obama hate campaign waged on every blog on the internet and by our choice to vote for what is best for America and who can protect America from all the nuts who truly hate us.

Posted by: Wil | March 2, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Two biggest selling points of Obama, according to himself and his fans, are: 1) Obama is a uniter who can bring republicans and independents together, while Clinton is a divisive figure, and 2) Obama has excellent judgement as demonstrated in his anti-war stance and 2002 anti-war speech.
Honestly, I do not think that Clinton has been effective in disect Obama’s claims, perhaps she is worried about hurting democrats’ chance in the general election. Now let me argue that Obama’s claims are bogus.
1) On Obama as a uniter and Hillary as divisive.
Obama’s ability as a uniter only shows up in his speeches. His voting records both as state senator and US-Senator do not support his claim. In fact, if anything, his voting records showed just the opposite. His voting records earned him as the most liberal democrat in the US-Senator, which basically means that he never or most unlikely vote for issues that have some common interest with republicans. This is not what a uniter would do. Therefore, you really have to believe in his words in his speeches that he is a uniter and that he will work with republicans to solve problems.
On the contrary, Hillary, after she got to the US Senate, has worked with many most conservative republicans including those who led impeachment of her husband on various bills. Many of them actually admitted that Hillary is an excellent colleague in the Senate. McCain of course also has an excellent track of records in bridging with democrats.
In short, among the three major contenders, Obama has the least credentials as a uniter, if you do not count on his speeches. Of course, the fact that Obama jumped into this election by ignoring the seniority (out of his personal political ambition), thus effectively divided the democrats does not help him to be called as a uniter.
2) On Obama’s 2002 anti-war speech and his anti-war stance.
We have to remember that as Bush administration drumed up the war with Iraq in 2002 and early 2003, the majority of democrats (let’s say 20 millions) were very suspicious about administration’s intention and resisted the war idea. Obama was one of those 20 millions. At the heart of the issues was whether or not Iraq had the weapon of mass destruction (WMD) and whether or not the US and UK intelligence information was believable. Besides democrats, Bush’s own secretary of State, Colin Powell (my hero) and his associates, were initially also very suspicious about the information and resisted the war idea. A lot of Americans later on changed their mind, mainly because the intelligence information became more believable or at least believable enough that Colin Powell changed his mind to go to the UN to show part of the information. I started to believe the story after Colin Powell was willing to do.
At this point, most Americans possibly except for the real liberals agreed with the war idea. Therefore, I would argue that given the information that Americans had at the time, it is a solid judgement to vote for the war. That is what and why the congress did. In 2004 election, Kerry and Edwards both said this — they did not question the decision and vote for the war, but they faulted the administration for executing the war.
Of course, the true liberals are those who are against war under any circumstance. Is Obama one of those true liberals? There are only two answers.
The first answer is yes, and I have reasons to believe that he is one of those true liberals. In this case, Obama’s anti-war bet in 2002-2003 was not because of his sound judgement, as he often claims. His bet was derived from his political and philosophical belief that is simply no war no matter what. Do we need such a person in White House? His bet in 2002 was a lucky one, but what about next time?
The second answer is that perhaps Obama is not the true liberal, and he was just like many of us who initially opposed the war but subsequently changed views after seeing more information or hearing Colin Powell’s UN speech. I have reasons to believe the second answer, because he later in 2004-2005 admitted that if he had been in the US Senate in 2003 he would have voted the same. In this case, he is no different from Hillary. If this is true, I would feel slightly more comfortable with him as the command-in-chief in case he wins in November.

Posted by: R. M. | March 2, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

The real interesting observation here is that Hillary supporters spend 99 % of their time tearing Obama apart; while offering little in regards to WHY we should vote FOR Hillary ?

Posted by: Matt | March 2, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

And here’s a tip for Hillary: the negative attacks against Obama aren’t working.

Posted by: Matt | March 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

But at what point does the press finally write her off?
She’s lost 11 in a row!!
And yet still the press is acting as if this is close. It’s not.
The bottom line: She can stay in as long as she wants, but she can not win.
After March 4th, if she decides to stay in, it will only hurt the party and the DNC chances in November.
We should stop paying attention to her — sort of like how you treat Huckabee now. You never write about Huckabee, do you Jake.

Posted by: Jack | March 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Hillary needs to just save face and bow out. All her supporters will then jump on the Barack-O-Wagon. All Hillary does is cloud her supporters best judgement.
Barack 2008

Posted by: TexasRules | March 2, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

ABSOLUTELY FIGHT !!!!!!! She should and will fight for the Presidency. If a person turns off all the biased crap on the television news and reads the more critical analysis online it’s more than obvious that she has ENORMOUS support and undoubtedly her supporters want her to do all she can to stick in the race.
The assumption that Hillary supporters will step aside if she doesn’t win and willingly cast their vote for Obama is absolutely wrong. I’m on half a dozen blogs and it’s quite clear that Obama is not seen as the second choice for many. There’s a lot anger out there. It’s not going to disappear overnight, tomorrow, next week….or years. I suppose we have the media much to blame for successfully dividing the Democratic party. And, we have Obama who gladly accepts the division as long as he’s benefiting. ALL TALK, this man, ALL TALK.

Posted by: catherine in nm | March 2, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Is there a possibility Hillary might try to iceberg Obama and go for an independent run?

Posted by: emo chalk | March 2, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Young voters have very sensitive Phony Radar who can easily detect which politicians are phonies. It is therefore easy to understand why young voters flock to Barack and the old ones to Hillary.

Posted by: wilson | March 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Hillary will lose on Tuesday because she will not capture enough delegates nor ever catch up to Obama. Super delegates will abandom her…she can go on but it would just be that more obvious that she doesn’t have the class or foresight to step aside…

Posted by: playlist | March 2, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Hillary has always stuck me as someone who only thinks of her own interest. She will choose ego over the good of the party. She’d rather tear down the eventual nominee and harm Democratic chances in November than end this gracefully.
The Clintons have never helped the party. They only help the Clintons.
That’s why the Democrats lost Congress, Senate and White House when they left in 2000. Very selfish ego-driven people.

Posted by: Kelly | March 2, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

A Constitutional Professor at Harvard, Editor of the Harvard Law Review, a Community Organizer on the south side of Chicago, a Civil Rights Attorney working on Death Penalty cases, a State Senator for 8 years, the most sweeping Ethics Reform since Watergate (per the WSJ), and a Senator at the federal level for a couple of years…
And she calls him an empty suit?
The gall.

Posted by: Paladine | March 2, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Obama needs to just save face and bow out. All his supporters will then jump on the Hillary-O-Wagon. All Obama does is cloud her supporters best judgement.
Hillary 2008

Posted by: lois | March 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Lois is funny. Just like a Clinton, she can’t come up with anything of her own to support her losing candidate.

Posted by: TexasRules | March 2, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Hillary does not have one endorsement from any member of the Senate Arm Forces
Committee…

Posted by: playlist | March 2, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Thanks Texasrules,
You are so kind. :-)

Posted by: lois | March 2, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

H ASLAN Aslani-Far Do you ever wonder how anyone at all would even know about his sound judgment if he had not given a speech at a convention? What if he had not been “chosen” to give this speech? I don’t believe that he would ever be running for President based on his credentials and experience. Or lack thereof. He gave a speech when he was not a member of the Senate and did not vote. But I can tell you what his vote might have been: Present

Posted by: Kyle | March 2, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

This fight will end at the Convention, Hillary will no give up..Florida and Michigan hang in the balance..come this summer Obama will be fully exposed for what he is really is an extreme left winger with ties to unpatriotic sectors of the country..Obama will never be elected President, He is a liar…

Posted by: Antonn | March 2, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

TO TEXA RULES…
BREAKING NEWS!! Not many of Hillary’s supporters will automatically swarm to Saint Obama, myself included. And those of you constantly telling her to bow out NOW should just drop it. There is no reason why she should. As for NAFTA, well, Obama did LIE about that too… among many other things. SO….
HILLARY ’08 OR
MCCAIN ’08

Posted by: Catmacdee | March 2, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Bye, Bye Obama!! He thought he wuld get a free ride–with the trial starting he’s run out of time. It is inevitable
that the dirt will come out. Hillary
should remain in the race no matter what, America deserves a real person, not an superficial one.

Posted by: Debbie | March 2, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

TO KATIE MASON-COLUMBUS OHIO….
YOU SHOULD CHECK YOUR FACTS FIRST… HERE THEY ARE…
Sen. Obama touts his consistent opposition to NAFTA. But speaking in Illinois in 2004 Obama said the United States “benefited enormously” from exports under NAFTA and talked about the need to continue to pursue trade agreement like NAFTA that support “a system of free trade in this nation that allows us to move our products overseas.”
UPDATE: Last night former Clinton adviser, David Gergen, confirmed that Hillary ‘was extremely unenthusiastic about NAFTA’:
GERGEN: “I was actually there in the Clinton White House during the NAFTA fight and I must tell you Hillary Clinton was extremely unenthusiastic about NAFTA. And I think that’s putting it mildly. I’m not sure she objected to all the provisions of it but she just didn’t see why her husband and that White House had to go and do that fight. She was very unhappy about it and wanted to move on to health care. So I do think there’s some justification for her camp saying, you know, she’s never been a great backer for NAFTA.” [David Gergen, Anderson Cooper 360, 2/25/08]

Posted by: Catmacdee | March 2, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

If those are not your questions why post them? Don’t trivialize the results of our state’s election.
You are helping Hillary make excuses for her not winning the Texas vote. God knows she will come up with her own and file a lawsuit.
Hillary won’t win Texas for no other reason other than WE DON’T LIKE HER DOWN HERE! Pure and simple…we don’t like her lies…we don’t like her dirty politics.
I think America will speak in all the state primaries on March 4. America will REJECT and DENOUNCE the Clintons.
Hillary will keep trying to STEAL the election. I can’t begin to think what disgusting level she will stoop to, but she won’t win it by votes.

Posted by: A Texas Voter | March 2, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Hillary
should remain in the race no matter what, America deserves a real person, not a superficial one.

Posted by: JKan | March 2, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Katie Mason,
I can verify that what you say is true for us in upstate New York, too. When she ran for the Senate here, she promised 200,000 new jobs. Well, they never materialized, and as Tim Russert said at the debate the other night, the reality is that we LOST 30,000. So of course Hillary blamed everyone else. I swear if you think Healthcare is expensive now, wait to you see how expensive and unsatisfactory it gets if Hillary is elected.

Posted by: CelticOdyssey | March 2, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I am a southern 45 year old white woman (former Republician) voting for Obama. As a woman I am ashamed by Hillary’s tactics. She does not represent me, my family or my friends. She has been rejected and rejected and rejected across America and she just doesn’t seem to get it. She needs to do herself and and her party a great favor and step aside.

Posted by: March | March 2, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

From the tone of the blogging, some of the Obama campaign employees must be on the payroll today.
By bloggers on the payroll, I refer to the groups of college students hired as Axelrod internet storm troopers.
This bunch is easy to identify: just picture your children or grandchildren fighting over the remote or throwing a tantrum over a video game.
Now, there’s some hope for change!

Posted by: Ken | March 2, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Most of the campaign commercials we have to put up with are pathetic no matter which candidate or party is responsible.
Just think, we only have about eight more months to put up with that garbage spamming our televisions and computers.
Time to read more books.

Posted by: Ken | March 2, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

I doubt there is any way Hilary will drop out unless Obama sweeps both Texas and Ohio with impressive margins. I don’t see that happening. I can see a close finish either way, but no slam dunks. I do see Obama keeping the delegate lead, but that wont be enough for Clinton to bow out and why should she if she wins the popular vote? I’m hoping Obama wins either Texas or Ohio and comes close on the other. This will keep his momentium going and Clinton against the ropes. Unfortunately I think this will keep going after tuesday. Unless Obama wins big! Lets hope he does ;)

Posted by: Jim Kiricov | March 2, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

If Sen. Obama was in the same exact position, the DNC would have long asked him to leave the race. Before Iowa, none of the other democratic candidates even recognized him as a serious contender. They are making all these concessions for Clinton because she is a Clinton. Then has blamed everything including the kitchen sink for her flaws. It is the media fault, it was Al Gore’s fault for the loss of jobs in New York, it is the White House’s fault for the Clinton administ. papers not being released, it is this campaign’s fault that I can’t release my tax returns, it is the debate moderator’s fault for asking my questions first…TO MANY EXCUSES HILLARY. Take responsibility for your flaws. Who’s fault will it be if you fail to secure the nomination???

Posted by: kc | March 2, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

On Tuesday, Hillary will be allowed to cry for the last time on TV.
This will be her last day in presidential politics.

Posted by: Mark | March 2, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

The last Democrat I voted for was J \
The last Democrat that I voted for was Jimmy Carter.Never again will I vote Democeat.They hand out too many free-bees–sit on your butt –get free housing–food stamps-child care you name it!!!While the rest of us are busting our busts to pay it.I will vote for someone who stop giving my hard working money to people who just want a hand out–not a hand up. Carolyn
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Posted by: Carolyn | March 2, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Wake up DEMOCRATS! There is nothing there with Rezko. My husband works for a major investment firm in Chicago and they did public financing for Rezko and his development for years. He was a very respectable land developer who did good business for years in Chicago and elsewhere. No one could have known that he was slipping. NO ONE!!! Once he came under suspicion companies still did not withdraw because his reputation was very good within the business/ financial community. It was awhile before the business community started to shift from Mr. Rezko. Now I would be very interested to know why Bill Clinton is doing business with the President of Dubai. Dubai will wind up owning the U.S. with Hillary as President! The Clinton’s know everything about how to play dirty politics and if there was something for them to play on they would have play it by now. There is nothing for them to use and they are having a very hard time just running on issues and experience.

Posted by: kc | March 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Hillary is riding the S.S. Fail and i
she did it to herself. No one is “entitled” to be president – you
have to earn it. Hillary is angry
because she feels the presidency is hers, and it should not be: Obama is in more qualified.

Posted by: Denton Travis | March 2, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I think the question that needs to be ask is why Clinton lost 11 in a row and why she even stayed after that? Lets talk about that..if Obama lost 3 they want to say he can’t win yet he beat her 11 in a ROW…anyone other than me notice the elephant hiding in the room that for some unknown reason no one wants to discuss???????

Posted by: Sam | March 2, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

When Hillary releases the Clinton tax return and the voters see where their $50,000,000 came from and that Bill is going to continue his profiteering if he is First Lady,it will all be over once and for all for the Clintons.

Posted by: Luke23 | March 2, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Initially, I don’t really care what comes out of any of the campaigns on Tuesday night, any of them. Most of it will be a repeat of what we have already heard, and the campaign gibberish will drag on for about eight more months.
Probably the most repulsive form of campaigning I have witnessed as of late is the barrage of television ads and spam email. Why should I have to pay for same people in the same jobs to assure me that change will cure everything?
To top it all off, this morning I was treated to a televsion commercial featuring the moaning of “OOOO-BAAA-MAAA…OOOO-BAAA-MAAA…OOOO-BAAA-MAAA.”
Initially, I had to wonder if Moonies or some sort of other cult had slipped in a Sunday morning television show. but no credits were given to the Reverend Moon or any other prophet. My morning coffee went cold and I half expected my Sunday paper to burst into flames.
Then, I had to make sure that a rerun of the movie “The Mummy” was not playing: Remember the scene with the zombies chanting Iiim-hooo-teep…Iiim-hooo-teep…Iiim-hooo-teep?” The resemblance was uncanny.
After that, I had to look outside to see if my cattle had gotten out of their corrals and were impatiently reminding me of feeding time. Cows just don’t seem to understand the importance of politics when compared to an empty stomach.
But, all of the possibilities that would have made sense were not to be. Instead, I figured the irritating noise was likely the same group of previously unemployed college students hired as Axelrod internet storm troopers now being induced with dollars to moan in unison. Can’t they do that in the dorm?
By the way, I am not a Republican or a Democrat. My vote is my own, independent, and still undecided. The behavior of the candidates and their campaigns as a whole is reprehensible. And, I do not look forward to eight months more of the juvenile behavior exhibited by all sides.
Just draw straws, credit your campaign funds toward the national debt, and a majority of the country’s voters will thank you.

Posted by: Ken | March 2, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Why won’t the Clintons release
their tax return? When the voters
see where their $50,000,000 came
from it will finally be all over
for them. They do not care about
anything except political power
and accumulating wealth for
themselves. Please: no more
Clintons in the White House. They
had their chance and as a result we
have a divided country.

Posted by: Luke Gilmore | March 2, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

She should not drop out until PA is over and the DNC decides what to do in FLA and MI, it may be by then that he has to drop out. Also, wait for the Rezco trial to get underway (if any media really reports on it). I am finally starting to see some media questioning Obama, and the republicans are just getting started on him.
The tide is finally turning and I am glad.

Posted by: belle | March 2, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Let’s face it, according to the media, Hillary Rodham Clinton can’t do anything right and Barack Hussein Obama can’t do anything wrong. Poor Obama! I seem to recall Obama recently saying “its all about the delegates”. Now he is spouting that the popular vote is what the superdelegates need to vote on. Hmmm which is it? Obama’s biggest advantage against ANYONE is the MEDIA is on his side! Obama needs less of “yes we can” and a lot of ‘how he can’. We need experience in the Oval Office and Obama does not have it. Vote Hillary! She is a candidate of action…he is a candidate of words. We need experience in these hard times.

Posted by: PROUDAMERICAN2008 | March 2, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

The biggest question is WHY the democrats would nominate someone like Obama who doesn’t have nearly enough experience to be qualified to be president. Hillary has barely more experience than Obama. How the heck are we supposed to vote for a democrat when these ninnies are the only choices?

Posted by: Doc Savage | March 2, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Hillary08: “Hillary should go on NO MATTER what!!!” At the expense of dividing the party up? But, hey, she has done this before. So, she will for sure go on, NO MATTER WHAT.

Posted by: catiger | March 2, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

What do I expect to hear from Hillary Clinton? I expect to hear her say that she will continue on because this country can ill afford to have such an experience person as her opponent as president. The world is not safe enough as it is. The last thing we need is to turn it over to someone so utterly ill prepared as her opponent. Go Hillary!!

Posted by: Kerry Washington | March 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Keep going Hillary!!! Fight! Fight! Fight! We the true Democratic base will be there until every vote is counted and that means Florida and Michigan. Don’t you get it Obama supporters? We would rather have McCain in the White House than Obama. We will go to the convention before we give up.
Hillary or McCain 08!!!!

Posted by: Carol | March 3, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Hillary is the best candidate, the best choice, and our best “HOPE” for “CHANGE”. No one should count her out or underestimate her ability to lead.

Posted by: Maggie Washington | March 3, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Hillary should stay in the race. America needs someone in White House with more experience than a speech (if you count a speech as experience).
If the party leader forces her out, then wait for us show up in November for McCain.

Posted by: R. M. | March 3, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

What say me?
WHAT DOES CLINTON WANT?
[that question used to be splattered gratuitously across the opinion pages after Jackson lost a few primaries in previous contests. Clinton has lost a string of them, and still the media 'gurus' have yet to dig up their hate files ..]

Posted by: chokora_fukara | March 3, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Republicans and independents are overuling the Democrats’ true choice for President–Hillary Clinton. What a sham! No wonder we get bad government. However, I have faith in my fellow Texans. No one comes into our state and tells us what to do. This is Clinton Country and we will deliver.

Posted by: Joseph | March 3, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Hillary Clinton must and will fight all the way to the convention in June. I am sick and tired of these people trying to CHEAT the process to install their man. It’s disgraceful and highly unethical. Rest assured this is Obama and his campaign peddling the convenient view that Clinton must “exit”. He wants to cut this race short and cheat his way to the finish line. It ain’t gonna happen!
How dare anyone try and deny the public of its right to play a role in selecting the Democratic nominee. Every state should have their votes counted! LET THE PROCESS TAKES ITS COURSE! No more FREE PASSAGES for Obama.
Do these people (Media/Obama/Obama’s supporters) know who they are dealing with????? Hillary Clinton doesn’t take rubbish from no-one! She is not about to roll over and hand victory to a man whom she knows she is infinitely more knowledgeable, experienced, skilled and qualified than. These requests for her to exit are laughable. It’s just not going to happen.
I trust that Hillary Clinton has the same view and will take this all the way to the convention. By that time, hopefullly REALITY will have set in, Obama will have been accordingly discredited once the TRUTH comes out, and all the superdelegates will flock with glee to Hillary!
Dream on Obama fans. See you at the convention!

Posted by: Muzza | March 3, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

I’m a white male democrat from Texas and early-voted for Hillary and am taking the day off on Tuesday so that I can caucus for Hillary. I think Hillary should fight until the end. If Obama is our nominee, I will vote for McCain. I am shocked by the cult-like attitudes of the Obamatons. It’s just like them to make a bunch of postings encouraging Hillary to bow out and support Obama. Just what a cult member would tell a non-member: Just come to believe in our messiah and everything will be good forever — you’ll be in ever-lasting bliss. Just drink this Kool-aid first!

Posted by: Texas | March 3, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

Hillary is my choice and a choice of millions. She should fight for nomination to the end. I distrust Obama. He was born a muslin and may be changed to Christian. But at least he should talk it clearly. Do not play with race. He is a new kind of politician, whom we do not trust. I would rather vote for McCain than him.

Posted by: Julia, California | March 3, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

For the sake of the democratic party, Clinton needs to continue on. A big chunk of her voters will go to McCain because the Republican machine will dig so much dirt (real or imagined) that those emotional votes that Obama counts on will dry up so fast. Even with the media being led by the nose, the few nuggets that we uncover about Obama are all very troublesome: vote present on most of the big issues, muslim or not? his relationship with the mobster Rezko who has relationships with terrorists, his reluctance to reject Fakkahan, etc. and this is just the beginning…
At least, the republican has tried multiple times to topple Clinton and they failed, twice with Bill, twice with Hillary when she ran for Senator.
I would switch because the DNC has allowed this election turning into a popularity contest instead of keeping focus on core values of the party.

Posted by: vote4thebest | March 3, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am

It’s over for Hillary on Tuesday night.
GO-BAMA!

Posted by: Dan | March 3, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am

One night sit and listen to all their so called unbiased coverage on this. Go online to the websites and see if the main article is about Hillary and usually negative or she needs to drop out. Count the number of times they bash Hillary vs. O’bama and draw the judgement yourself. They think we are idiots. Really people just give your vote to the press. The press has caused most of this out of control election.

Posted by: Cactus | March 3, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

I hope we hear……
nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah
hey hey hey
good bye.

Posted by: SE Croft | March 3, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Hillary should fight to the end. If Obama is the nominee I will vote McCain (and Republican for the first time in my life). Sorry, I can’t drink the kool aid.

Posted by: Kathi | March 3, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

It doesn’t matter what message is spun to the public; what matters is the reaction of her large backers writing the checks and the party leadership. If the money dries up and the party says “party over”, she’s done.

Posted by: Frank | March 3, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

I think the people who are donating still to Hillary campaign are doing so that she fight on till the convention. Democrat chairman Dean and Brazille should be threw out of the party for throwing out the votes of Michagan and Florida. We would not be in this mess. Hillary would have a large delegate lead.

Posted by: TO | March 3, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Women in the Democratic party are tired of “pimping” for the white boys. It’s our time and it’s now!
There are a very few articles that have even attempted to address Obama. A few were out this weekend. Stating that he wasn’t what he has been suggesting that he is. These are the news pieces that are here, one such article talks about the lobbyist that are “volunteering” for Obama. He’s not taking the “money”, wink, but he is allowing direct access to him. They are in fact running his campaign. (Don’t tell Jake.) Then there is the article mentioning that he isn’t such a “reach across the aisle” man that he projects, but in fact is one to take the “soft issues” and fails to stand when there are tough issues. One article mention that “he was missing in action “ in the Illinois legislature and that he would often not show up for tough votes there, just like he didn’t show up for the Iran vote.
So lobbyists, he says he doesn’t take their money, but he lets them run his campaign. He says he reaches across the aisle, but only when it’s safe. He says he going cause change but he doesn’t show up for tough votes to take a stand on the record. That’s not change, that’s what we’ve got already – Incompetence and irrelevance. Good grief, get past the misogynist press and think about it.
And the part about Hillary and the women backing her tossing in the towel-When hell freezes over!

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | March 3, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

“What Should We Expect to Hear from Camp Clinton Tuesday Night?”
IDK what she’ll say. But this is what she will be thinking:
‘SHAME! Shame on you Texas. Shame on you Vermont. Shame on you Rhode Island. And Shame On You OHIO!
This belongs to me and you will all regret your conduct once I am President.’
So AmazonTraveler you keep on a fightin till “hell freezes over!” I’m wit ya.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | March 3, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

bravo bravo… i wish those were your words. i wish those will be the superdelegates’ words. dont drop out hillary. it’s time for america to choose a leader not an american idol.

Posted by: burningchains | March 3, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

I challenge Senator Clinton’s supporters to argue for her candidacy without mentioning that she is a woman.
Senator Obama has broad support among all segments of the population, including women. That fact should tell you something.

Posted by: Lynda | March 3, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

In the last two weeks, Senator Clinton has set the Feminist movement back decades. She is the wrong person to represent all women.
She certainly doesn’t represent me.

Posted by: Lynda | March 3, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Karl Rove says “Clinton should fight all the way to the Convention.”

Posted by: dennis from MI | March 3, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Senator Clinton won’t drop out, no matter what the results are. We’re supposed to rally around her and support her, darn it, and she’s not going anywhere until she gets her due. This is, after all, entirely about her, right?
Her claim of bringing change is only partly true, in my opinion. I have to admit that she would bring change. Instead of a bitterly divided country led by a Republican president, we’d have a bitterly divided country led by a Democratic one. Other than that, however, it’d be the same broken down, bitter system that caters to special interests and not to citizens. This is the reality of the “experience” that our long-established politicians have, and that some people oddly still seem to want. Personally, I don’t think it’s worked so well. There are tons of snide comments about buying into a message of hope and change, and “drinking the kool aid” is a tired cliche being overused. I’ll offer one of my own for those who prefer “experience.” Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Finally, there’s the whining about Senator Clinton being treated unfairly in the press. Is there anyone who doesn’t think that if their positions were reversed, with Senator Obama having lost eleven contests in a row, that the Clinton campaign wouldn’t be applying every kind of pressure imaginable to try and get Senator Obama to drop out? I’m sure they be screaming about a “clear mandate” in that situation. And I sincerely doubt the press would be making up scenario after scenario where Senator Obama could make a comeback.

Posted by: Kim P. | March 3, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

I am a woman voter for Obama, and optomistically voting for him should the primaries drag on to Indiana.
My thoughts on Hillary:
1. She seems to feel she’s entitled to the Presidency -I do not agree
2. Her foreign policy experience consists of having tea with others as the presidents wife. I don’t care if it’s 80 countries, it was a social event for her – possibly a list of speaking engagements, but not a policy setting position.
3. 8 years as the first lady is not 8 years as the president.
4. Solutions – she could not manage to organize a health care plan. She’s too polarizing to be able to get things done. The Clintons are devisive – they don’t play well with others. Obama can get things done – he’s gone from nowhere to clearly the frontrunner with grassroots support.
5. Hillary is more of the same old Clinton. We’ve been there/done that already. She’s no agent of change.
6. Why isn’t anyone bringing up Whitewater??

Posted by: Lynne | March 3, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Funny how the Clinton campaign expects to claim that a *combined* net gain of 5-15 delegates out of Ohio and Texas is a “win” (best case scenario).
All of Obama’s wins in the last 4 weeks have been by at least that much:
Hawaii +9; Washington +28; Virginia +25; Nebraska +8, etc.
Anyone other than Huckabee would have stepped aside a long time ago, though some say that Huck has some purpose down the road for staying in. Is there some other objective for Hillary to stay in the race?

Posted by: Allen | March 3, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

If Obama had lost 11 contests in a row, does anyone think the media would be encouraging him to go on? I didn’t think so.
That said, I expect Hillary to go on, thereby helping McCain win the general election.

Posted by: John | March 3, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Asking Clinton to drop out is ludicrous. Why should anyone drop out before the primaries are done? That essentially means that “for the good of the party” the folks in the later primaries should not get a say. This whole system just doesn’t make sense and gives too much priority to the votes of the people from the states having early primaries. We should go to a U.S. democratic primary…one day…everyone done.

Posted by: KiminNC | March 3, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

We should remember that before anything is counted tomorrow, there are still 46% of all availble delegates still at stake. That is a lot of delegates still. It is very doable for either candidate. Hillary should not bow out. Every state should have the chance to be heard. That would be very good for the party.

Posted by: Patrick | March 3, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Carl Rove ad Rush Limbaugh want to see Hillary continue.
Good card-carrying members of the Democratic party, that lot are…
They know that the longer we wait before uniting behind a candidate, the better it is for the Republicans.
tI’m all for HRC deciding to stay in the race, but only if she gets candid with the American people: Sen. Clinton, why haven’t you filed your tax return info and your earmarks, as Obama has?
Elise in NH
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Posted by: Elise in NH | March 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

All of you Hillary supporters threatening to vote for McCain in November if she doesn’t get her way is absolutey ridiculous. You are all contradicting yourselves. You are saying you will vote for the man who swears to keep us in an unnessecary war for 100 more years, if you don’t get your way.
You’re all a bunch of sore losers and cry-babys, just like Hillary.
Why in the world woiuld you vote for someone whoi is completely the opposite of the person you currently support? When the other choice is more similar to your candidate? That just does not make sense, and I don’t believe that any of you would. You’re just saying that to scare people. It’s a statement made out of spite.
Here’s something that is for real – There are a ton of life-long Republicans that have already said they are ready to vote Obama over McCain in November, but would not under any circumstance vote for a Clinton. That would be against their religion.
That woman is so arrogant. She assumed the presidency would be literally handed to her, as if owed to her, as if this country is some sort of monarchy, floating back and forthe between BUsh, Clinton and so on. They probably already have plans for Chelsea’s run. She assumed it would all be over on Feb 5th, but the overwhelming voice of her party spoke otherwise. Obama not only won 11 primaries in a row, but he won them with BIG numbers, he won hands down!
She has no idea how to combat Obama, because there is nothing! So she is using scare tactics that we have all had enough of over the past 7 years.
She stated last week that the reason she has not done her taxes yet is because she has been so busy with the campaign. Yet, she has found the time to appear on SNL and now The Daily Show.
Give it up already Hillary. Put a fork in her, she’s DONE.

Posted by: Susan | March 3, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

“THE EMPEROR MIGHT HAVE NO CLOTHES ON!”
I do no understand why Hillary is being asked to get out of the race. The only reason the Democratic big wigs want her to step aside is because they feel that because the Republicans have selected their nominee, the Democrats who have not yet voted should be denied the chance to vote for THEIR Candidate. Lets wake up here. McCain is the “last man standing” through the popular vote. However, on the Democratic side, it is still too close to call. Lets remember “stepping down” seems to be called for more by the press constantly repeating and repeating that she has no chance, but really it is a “dead heat” still. And like Jay said, with Obama having SO MUCH support and money to “finish her off,” that is a question on his ability to win in November. Lets look at the facts why this should go to the convention, which by the way, in situations like THIS is WHY WE HAVE A CONVENTION!
Obama is only winning by 110 delegates over Hillary. If Florida and Michigan’s primary delegates are reinstated, which they should, since just because they had their primary early, is no reason to disenfranchise voters in the third most populous state, Hillary would be LEADING, Obama by more delegates than he is leading her.
We have to remember on the state level, there are ALSO superdelegates in some states, MUCH MUCH more than 110 delegates left to be given out on the state level in the state conventions.
Generally to win an election in this country with electorial votes where we have to remember, unlike the primary delegates, where it is based on a popular vote instead of “winner takes all”, in most elections you generally need 2 of the top 4 delegate rich states and Ohio, or 3 of the top 4 States. Of there top 4 states, 3 of them are overwhelmingly Democratic rich states, Ca, Fl, NY. Texas is about 50% Republican. Up until now, Obama has FAILED to win in theses electorial rich contests, and lost to Clinton by HUGE MARGINS.
Lastly, it seems to me that Obama started to get MOJO, and when McCain was the last man standing. Since in many states, Texas especially, Republicans and independents are now “Democratic Primary, Wild Cards” and CANNOT be counted on to vote in November for Obama. The Republican party’s hatred of the Clintons is well documented, so people need to stop and think, are the Republican sabotaging the Democratic primary and voting for the weaker candidate on issues so he can be steam rolled in November? I THINK SO!
Remember Obama, has only been on the national stage for 2 years. He was able to win his seat when a popular Republican had to step down over a scandal, about his “personal life”, his relationship with his wife which was a family matter, but he was “hung by the Illinois press.” He sailed right into the seat, after 8 years in the Illinois Senate, where if you research his accomplishments and what his peers though about him, you will find that he was just an average candidate, voted usually with the Democrats issues, but also, avoided, possible issues that could be controversial. In stead of voting he is listed as “PRESENT” basically, he was there, but did not vote. If you saw Bill Maher’s show on HBO last Friday, he had a reporter go to a big arena rally for Obama and kept asking the same questions to the FANatics, “Name two things Obama has done or accomplished in the Senate or in the Illnois Senate.” Most people had trouble naming one, rather then two, and most could not think of one!
I DO BELIEVE that Obama has a great future and probably WILL BE President someday and has an incredible future if he keeps his “nose clean.” However fellow Democrats, lets remember whay happened last time we voted in an “outsider” without much experience on the NATIONAL STAGE. Remember Jimmy Carter? He was a nice guy, meant well, and went on to win the Nobel Peace Prize. But as soon as he arrived, “they cut his legs off immediately” even by his own party. The same thing will happen to Obama, especially since he keeps preaching “Change” but he still has not told us, how he is going to do it! Just that he WANTS to do something.
Please take this all into account and stop listening to Oprah Winfrey on who to vote for. This is not the “book of the month club” and even Oprah has been wrong, with just her book club. Remember that guy who faked his credentials, or was not forthcoming with the details? Finally, after he was, “nominated” and his book became a bestseller, we found out he was a fake.
Come everyone, until Obama has more substance, instead of Rock star, which I believe might happen in the future, I think we are going realize, if he gets the nomination, based on Clinton being forced out, instead of discussion at the convention, I am sure by November, we might find out…
“THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ON!”

Posted by: Ligg | March 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

I just want to “second” these statements:
“Since in many states, Texas especially, Republicans and independents are now “Democratic Primary, Wild Cards” and CANNOT be counted on to vote in November for Obama. The Republican party’s hatred of the Clintons is well documented, so people need to stop and think, are the Republican sabotaging the Democratic primary and voting for the weaker candidate on issues so he can be steam rolled in November? I THINK SO!”
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“Hillary should go on NO MATTER what!!! No one will have enough delegates by August, so it is anyone’s game. In the 6 months to the convention, anything could happen…”
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I don’t believe that Hillary Clinton would ever accept being Barack Obama’s vice presidential nominee. Hillary is running a campaign based on her assertion that she is “Ready on day 1″. The implication (and it is correct) is that Barack Obama is not. I think her message will certainly be pointed out in a debate with John McCain. Whether people like to admit it or not, the Democratic party is no longer united. I think if Hillary Clinton does not win the nomination, the Republicans win in November.”
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…..and I am a Democrat

Posted by: Jo-Ann | March 3, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Sometime ago, I was writing a novel with the first woman president and in my fiction she was a Scorpio born in Oct 26th, I didn’t know hillary’s b-day…she’s the one…there are many Republicans who’re praying Obama will win, so the Republicans will be there again for 4 more years.
Vote Hillary!

Posted by: elise quick | March 3, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Come on Texas!!!!
Let’s rid this country of the lies and politics of personal destruction that is known as Clintonism.
You CAN do it.

Posted by: Easy | March 3, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

anybody but Lady MacBeth!!!

Posted by: jennifer | March 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Hillary should not get out of the race.
Obamagic wants this to finish because he doesn’t have the real strength to go on a long run fight. It’s a lot of illusions around his inspirational campaign and that won’t last too long once times get rougher on him.
Hillary should stay in the race and not give way to the pressure.

Posted by: Jane | March 4, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

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