As Chicago Bids for Games, Obama Ducks Olympics Criticism

obama, remember, he is a follower, not a leader, e.g. his rev.’s follower

Obama,
Where’s your spine?
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Free Tibet!
Hillary stands up against Chinese human rights abuses!
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Pam-
That actually discribes Hillary to a Tee.
She’s the one that can’t even lead her own campaign and follows her husband into contraversy after contraversy

The closer we get to the election, the more he sounds like an animatron. Ask him a question, the calculations start, and out pops a non-offensive, non-controversial message that cannot be used against him… the supposed passion to lead seems to have been replaced by pure politics. Giapetto made Pinocchio… Axelrod has Obama.

when asked about the olympics, “Obama never once mentioned the Olympic Games in his response”.
Maybe the Orator should have just said “present”. He’s pretty good at that.
What an empty suit.

Since Hillary’s call to boycott the Olympic ceremonies Gordon Brown of the UK will be boycotting, the EU is now considering a boycott of the opening ceremonies, and even George Bush is now considering a boycott of the opening ceremonies. Obama? Well, if you need an example of how Obama would lead the world you just got yourself one. He failed the test as we all said he would over and over again.

Sorry Stacey, He is weak. And Yes, I am a staunch Hillary supporter.

Obama boldly and with great eloquence votes “Present” yet again.

Wouldn’t we be so fortunate to have a president that follows and doesn’t LEAD ! Scary times.

Unlike the great American he is often compared to (John F. Kennedy showing in his life to be a true Profile in Courage with his devotion to his nation and the public welfare often before his own) Senator Obama is all profile and no courage.
Senator Clinton, and others like her, have shown courage and dedication during their years of service, instead of just relying on 2 or 3 years of service in the community where little was done beyond grooming onceself personally for a career in politics.
As Americans who ask more of their public servants when we seek change, Senator Clinton represents the real change we want to see in our country and the world.

stacy – Obama failed to lead as we all told you Obama groupies time and times again. Lay off the juice.

Senator Clinton made that comment for sheer political gain. No matter the pressure he gets, President Bush will be attending the opening ceremonies to the Olympic games.

Clinton is doing anything to change peoples attention off of the news on her campaign…Her and Bills blunder.Hsu
And get the attention off of Penn And the Colombian Trade Deal which Bill
supports. And Now with the Wal mart tape that ABC bought were it shows her sitting quietly while they were fighting off the Unions.
This is where the (thick) rubber of the Clintons’ financial entanglements hits the (icy) road of presidential politics. Huffington Post reports that Bill Clinton was paid $800,000 in 2005 by a group “tasked with bringing investment to the country and educating world leaders about the Colombia’s business opportunities.”
The Clinton campaign confirms the former president’s support for the trade deal. “The acknowledgment adds new hurdles to the New York senator’s bid to woo Democratic voters in Pennsylvania and elsewhere who believe free trade agreements have eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs,” the AP’s Charles Babington writes.

Why didn’t NObama just say “present”!!!! …. that seems to be the only true stand he takes on anything important. NObama’s history shows he is not a human rights activist … he is a black activist!!

Poor Obama, his lack of leadership and judgment are once again exposed. As a resident of the Chicago-area, I hope they lose the bid for the Olympics. If Obama is keeping his mouth shut about the China issue because he’s “concerned” of any appearance of a “conflict of interest”, he needs to be reminded of the reasons for the condemnation of China. Evidently since it doesn’t affect him or his self-serving interests, he’ll continue to be “silent”.

Hillary shows leadership, Obama shows that he has a wet noodle for a backbone. Did Obama just claim that he is better at foreign policy than both Hillary and McCain? This is demonstrated of course by his forceful positions on…let’s see…ummm…oh, yeah, he made a SPEECH against the Iraq war in…let’s see…oh, yeah, 2002!! I’m voting present for the Olympics…no, umm, oooh, what to do, got to call Axelrod, or uh, Kennedy, or uh Kerry, umm, Pelosi was just in Tibet…arrrgh!!!

obama is a wuz

I think all World leaders should attend ad then quietly and respectively say to the leader of China we will help you to help yourself getting untangled in the Sudan. And Tibet lets find a workable solution for all. Its called Compromise
Barack is in a tough spot being Ill. is in the running for 2016 games. I am sure if New York was in the running in 2016 she would be doing and saying the same thing

Okay, folks….is this the person we need as president? He cannot, uh, make up, uh, his, uh, mind and take uh, stand. Give me a break, Obama….pack up your bag and go home. I think we need a strong person, a person who can make a stand and be heard. Certainly not, uh, Obama.

Obama avoids taking a stand on anything that could actually define him. That way, his followers can continue to project whatever they believe onto him. When they figure that out, it will be too late, and they will be sorely disappointed.

Boycotting the opening ceremony is a very nunanced issue. Clearly the anti Obama people here have about as much nuance and deep thinking ability as Bush/Cheney – but with even less facts to work on.
So by definition all the blather is simply ignorant prejudice.
I see no reason to state a absolute decision of intention to boycott today – that is not to say that it should not happen. Also a proper President (which we do not have) should play this hand very carefully – and certainly not show ones cards during a poker game.
But America has in reality has lost its right to lecture anyone. You need moral authority – so get a grip and start thinking like decent human beings.
People who support Clinton’s stance are refusing to accept the consequences of being citizens of a Country that supports torture, rendition, incarceration without legal representation and illegal invasions – now that is a the definition of arrogance.

Jonathan has it right.
Boycotting the olympics is a bain-aid that only punishes our athletes that work so hard with little support. Obama has the metal to attack the core problem. OUR BANK OF CHINA

what do you expect?he has immersed himself with marxist teachings and people his entire life so why would he want to disagree with the last large marxist country.think about it,uncle frank,marxist professors in college,willaim ayers of the weather underground and lets not forget the lovely rev wright and farrakan.yea right he is some sort of leader alright.

Obama has my vote.

Do you guys still think Clinton has a chance? Can you count with your fingers?

“And if we are running huge deficits and big national debts and we’re borrowing money constantly from China, that gives us less leverage”
Does Obama think this is a game of Monopoly? China is our banker? Obama is the one with trillions of dollars in proposed new spending. The US doesn’t need a wimp afraid of China as President

Obama doesnt need to talk about this lame subject. Obama is smart keeping out of it. Obama will be the next President and Bush will be in Jail for War Crimes!!!

DogSoldier-
Wrong! Obama is starting the dialogue that needs to be spoken about our weak standing in the world. He knows it’s going to be hard to accept, but America right now has a credibility problem.
In the content of his statement, he is saying that the problem is bigger than the olympics and that he will address outside of that arena because he believes the athletes should not be overshadowed by a political election.
I think this was a smart way of him handling the issue. Why put the athletes in the middle of politics? That’s respect he’s exercising!

Obama is cautious because he knows that this time it was Han and Hui Chinese who were killed by large number by the Tibetans.

this looks a lot to me like BO is in China’s pocket

I doubt his response has anything to do with Chicago bidding for the games. And I hope Chicago doesn’t get it, because everywhere the Olympics go they tear apart areas, in this case the South Side, for their stupid games, leaving impoverished people screwed over.

I am thankful that Obama is showing leadership instead of acting out of rashness like Hilliary Clinton is doing to grandstand and make herself appear to be a leader. She has always lead a sheltered life, and she is simply taking advantage of a connundrum in which she gets to look strong by telling President Bush what to do, and yet avoid taking the repercussions when something goes terribly wrong, i.e., blowback for a stupid decision. That is one of the pay-offs for the grandstander, Clinton. What a weasel. The second is, that it allows her to divert attention from her pack of lies and her bankrupt “vision” for addressing the economic woes and the Iraq war problems, i.e., domestic issues. But then she has never actually taken responsibility for anything before, so why would we expect her to begin doing so now? Instead, she is following the same old-school politics of say anything to make yourself look good, get the votes and leave others holding the back. Sorry loser! Thinking people are not buying it this time.

This is a lame subject!!! Obama you are doing a great job not talking about this. you are the smart one of the three. these other people are losers and they just need to stay home. OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!!

Matthew,
You sound like a “typical Obama supporter”. Maybe you can live in your Obama t-shirt once you’ve been kicked out. You can always log on to the Daily Kos and rant at the public library. You can also look up Hillary Clinton’s historical statements against human rights abuses by China. My guess is that Barack Obama came out with a MUCH STRONGER statement than anybody against China while he was an Illinois state legislator.
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Obama — keep drinking the coolaid, man!
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This is hilarious. The Obama-haters trash Obama for allegedly saying whatever Hillary does. And now they trash Obama for NOT saying whatever Hillary does.

Who cares what Hillary says? Its time to focus on the general election between Senator Mccain and Senator Obama.

Matthew,
That’s just beyond brilliant. What a great strategy. If Obama just keeps all his opinions to himself he can get elected. Hey, wait a minute, he’s already thought of that! Good coolaid, dude.
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Obama, the smart one!
Obama, keeps his opinion to himself!
Obama supporters, not as smart as Obama
Obama supporters flaunt their opinions!
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getitright: I would like to join Obama’s team and get paid trashing his opponent on the internet. How much does he pay you?

If he thinks he’s going to take on the special interests, then why the wimpiness towards China, whether we owe them money or not? If he applies the same logic to the special interests, we’ll be in bed with them forever contrary to what his speeches are about. He has had so many opportunities to show through his actions whether he really is capable of standing up for what he says he believes in. Example: says he’s against racism, excuses his Pastor because he’s “like family”, says he’s for human rights, excuses China because we owe them money. Seems he wants to appease everyone and stand for nothing. All the words and money are not enough to persuade many scrutinizing voters like myself. It’s similar to the mindset of the abused person towards their abuser. Somehow it’s their fault so they don’t deserve better. This really worries me as a characteristic in someone who is supposed to be possibly the next President! We need an assertive, confident President who will stand up with all they have on behalf of Americans. I just don’t see it. Am I missing something?

Isn’t it just hilarious how the obamamaniacs continue to blame Hillary Clinton for voting for the war as the deciding vote that put us in Iraq? Just goes to show how really brainwashed the obama followers have become and how uninformed about any of the issues. I would wager that these followers don’t even know what obama is talking about (like the rest of the world) most of the time, but are so blinded by his “light” that if he utters a word, they will die by his sword. Obama has proved many times that he is a cult leader, he has mind control over the weakest of his followers (those that are the least intelligent) and uses them as spokespersons to further his goal of bashing Hillary in every way, yet not speaking a bad word against her. He has his minions in place for that. Remember ” I didn’t say it, so it cannot be me and it cannot be wrong.” Now as the vetting begins, the only way that he comes off as holier than thou, it to have a Hollywood script writer pen another magnificent speech, which when delivered, makes his followers fall to their knees in praise and then go prone because the Golden Tongue has spoken. There will be another enlightening, magnificent speech rather shortly and MSNBC, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews will again feel those tingling sensations up and down their spine.
The best thing that obama utters when responding to a question or someone requesting a response is “uh, uh, uh”. What a president he will make. LMAO.

WAKE UP AMERICA…this guy is a master of the “dodge”….THIS IS NOTHING NEW>>>>>>>>>
IT IS TRUE TO FORM….20 Yrs sitting on his derriere listening t HATE AMERICA speech….yes, he is a spineless wonder……..
NOT STAND FOR HUMAN RIGHTS??? BEGONNE!!

And this is the candidate who believes in talking to nations to get them to change their ways? If you can’t “tell your banker he’s wrong”, then how does he plan to counter impact of Chinese manufacturing on US markets, intellectual property violations, environmental/global warming, Taiwan, or human rights issues? … Apparently when he says he’ll talk, it’s only about safe topics.

Obama is right on with this one!!! WE cant bite the hand that hold us financially or even trade embargo wont help when everything you purchase in USA is made in China. If we try to stop trade with them we wont be able to function as a country. Where will we get things for everyday life. It sure aint made in the good ol USA anymore.

Hillary two weeks ago said she didn’t have an opinion of it.
Hillary jumped on the pelosi bandwagon to get penn off the news.
This is so clintonian say you have no opinion of it hope the media forgets that and play the public for fools. Then take Pelosi’s position and make it like you are the leader on this.
All politicians lie but the Clintons lie so easily and all the time.

Wonder what Samantha Power thinks of this.

So, apparently politics of hope means hope for all except Tibet. Nice, Obama. No matter though, you’re not going to be POTUS 44.

I dont hear any of you boycotting goods from China. Last I checked…almost everything we have in our homes is made in China!!!! So until we as a people, decide to never buy goods from them until they do something about human rights of Tibetians,..then we all need to shut our yappers!

HILLARY SOULD HAVE BOYCOTTED HER HUSBAND AND HIS FRIENDS

I vote present!

He was caught offguard with the question. He was not able to use his cell phone and call Axelrod and his other surrogates and ask them what should I say. So he did what he always does best…not answer the question straight up…He should have said uhm..PRESENT…hahahahaha…This can be the future POTUS. Just like when he was asked “why did he continue to go to this church for 20 years? He has not answered this question and he never will. Hillary Clinton might not be perfect but she is the best candidate we have that can turn this country around.

obama will release a statement soon, just because he hasnt released a statement doesnt mean he doesnt have a valid opinion, on whats goin on, he chooses his words carefully, and speaks with wisdom, thats what we need from the next president, hillary rushes to comment to distract from the fact she is slipping in the polls and all the scandals she is involved in!

Obama is a loser. If he gets the Dem nod, I am voting for McCain. I would rather have experience than an arrogant rookie from Illinois.

Give him 20 years and then maybe he’ll find his voice to speak up and do the right thing – oh wait, guess the “bankers” will have to announce their retirement before he finds the “guts” to do something about it.

It’s just like him, as always he never has an opinion, he lets everybody else say something and than he out of all the opions made, maybe -maybe he will voice his. HE IS A WOOSH NO BACKBONE, never has had one and never will. Is that the kind of person we want running our GREAT NATION? Please ,FELLOW AMERICANS rethink, not just because his black does it mean he is good for our country. If COLIN POWELL was running I would vote for him 100% because I know he IS A TRUE AMERICAN and knows what the country needs. and HILLARY would not have runned because I know and feel that she knew the country was in good hands.

Chiman-
Not going to stoop the the level of Hillary and McCain politicizing a hero for his personal political gain.
Don’t you go questioning his respect for MLK…don’t you be stupid enough to go there

Obama takes his time to make good decisions – he’ll come out with his position.
I don’t want a President making irrational decisions for the sake of just having a position – they need to take everything into consideration.
That said – I do agree with him. We tell everyone to reduce pollution for global warming – yet we are the highest consumers =/ China is a frajile nation which we are sadly tied to heavily. You need to choose your words/decisions/battles carefully.

this is a joke, dont attend the opening ceremony but compete in the games??? ridiculous and meaningless. the best thing for freedom is to SUPPORT the games and see how far china has bent over to host the games! work in increments and let the hypocrites pretend their actions mean something to like mined.

Obama is a puppet candidate, so how can we expect him to know the answer to every question directed to him at a town hall meeting? This is why Obama does very few of these town hall meeting question and answer sessions. When will Obama allow reporters another shot at questioning him? Not anytime soon. Probably pompous blowhard Keith Olbermann will give a 5 minute sermon this evening to us stupid white people that Obama is the best spineless candidate that money can buy!

Add this to all of his other present votes.Then later he can go which ever way the wind is blowing.

Yes, pragmatism is the haulmark of Obama policy and is the only way to govern in the middle and govern successfully. Pragmatism, not radicalism, brings peace and prosperity.
We have plenty of experience of Bush’s “my way or high way” politics. It gave us failed Iraq policy, failed economy, and enormous debt.
Clinton only wants to please voters. I bet she does not even know what is happening in Tibet and she does not care.

LOOKS LIKE TROUBLE SHE JUST CAN NOT SHAKE IT OFF.

Barack Obama is a winnie. He will not take a stand on anything.

Jackie,
I’m glad to hear that you found something that can be measured about Obama. I can tell you something that can’t be measured about Obama, though. It’s his spine, he doesn’t have one.
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Obama, you cannot measure his spine!
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Olympics in Chicago would be awesome. On another note, what has happened to America? When did we let the Communists begin controlling America?

As usual, Obama would rather vote PRESENT than taking a stand. He is weak. He wouldn’t dare to express his opinion on China Olympic…He is a followers, a follower of Rev. Wright. He is afraid of tough challenges and won’t commit himself to anything, except lying to the voters that he would bring the troops home at his time table, knowing that he can’t make that decision. The GENERALs are not supporting his promisses.
A liar and a racist and anti American. NO OBAMA!

This is why his relationship with Wright is very telling. He can’t even stand up to the pastor to tell him he was wrong. MSM will label this as very thoughtful and discerning when in fact this guy is just a sissy.

He is actually thinking about making decisions and not just blaring out an opinion that will suck up to people that don’t think about the consequences like voting for the war. If anyone believes that he does not care about human rights you are crazy. Yes, it would be much easier to just have the same, save opinion as Clinton has, but like I said….that would be easy.

Lauren – You have no idea what NAFTA is, do you? What are its obligation?

Keep politics out of the Olympics. Why should our athletics who have trained so hard be punished? There are other ways to express displeasure & concerns besides boycotting the Olympics, like not buying their products when others products are available.

Do you suppose Michelle has to tell him when it is time for nigh-nigh and help him get into his jammies, you know, the kind with the little feet in them? Wonder what kind of stuffed animal he cuddles up with – or maybe he is more of a blankie kind of guy.

Hillary is a hypocrite, she is using this opportunity just for political gain, just like she used Bosnia. Obama is not going to take a serious situation like this and make a mockery of it like Hillary has!! Bush has been communicating with China, and it is through these communications that things with China will change, that they will improve their human rights behaviour, and Obama knows that as well. By locking off China, and ending all possibility of communication is not going to get things changed, and most people know that. Hillary is into grandstanding, and she knows full well that this grandstanding is not going to solve a thing.

He makes a good point(s).
Embarassing them by not showing up at the Games will only infuriate these Commies and won’t buy/fund any more of our debt. Even worse, they could ask to cash in.
China has us by the nads.
Saudi Arabia has us by the nads.
Thank you Republicans!

Once again, Obama demonstrated his grasp of the events and superior judgment.

Well, actually, I think it is funny that she opposes Bill on the Colombia thing, since everybody has been saying Bill would be running things. Then yall bash her for that.
Now as to Obama standing up for anything, I got a quote for you from a blogger on muslimsforobama08 posted by ShaikhfromSanJose”another reason I don’t like Obama is because he is doing his best to prove he is not muslim.” And on the website Obama himself said “I wasn’t raised in a religious household, my mother was detatched from religion.” But on a Christian website with the interviewer he said ” my mother was a Christian from Kansas. I have always been a Christian.” I guess it depends on who your audience is.That last quote was from Moriel Ministries. Can you really trust this guy? Nah.

Let’s all wait 20 years. Maybe he’ll have a position by then.

Once again, I dont hear any of you boycotting the goods we recieve from China. So, simply boycotting the Olympics is gunna do exactly what? Now, If we boycotted the goods we recieve from China that would make much more of a statment than boycotting a sporting event! DUH!!!

Jock,
My point is there are some newbie bloggers that are condemning Hillary for being opportunistic on the China matter, and the fact is she has been consistent in her position over a number of years. People without any sense of history make the statements being made here.
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Obama supporters, read your history books!
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SuperClearMind – Does drinking the juice make you think you have a super clear mind? Wright. Perhaps you could find Obama and check what he has to say on Tibet or Durfur or China.

Glad to see a politician who sees the big picture and understands what the word diplomacy means! Obama will be a great President!

wendi…..so, which one do you want? The lying hypocrite or the old man that loves wars?

Lauren, can you please explain your comments. Seem’s to me that you are not really versed on what you are talking about. Are you one of those blind followers of Sen Obama or you fantasize him to be a man/leader he is not.
Looks like you are just parroting the liberal media.

Obamaalltheway,
I love it. Obama is standing back and showing judgement again? What kind of judgement are you talking about? The kind of judgement where he waited twenty years to speak out about Reverend Wright?
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Obama supporters cannot come up with an argument that shows that Obama has a spine! It’s still missing in action!
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What are all of us going to do after the general election after McCain has won. I will miss reading all this and laughing at some of the stupid things some of you say. No way will Obama be President of the good old USA!

jock59801 —– the best time to make a comment is when it matters most. This is the best time to talk against human rights abuses when the world is watching. Natural leaders know when to speak out based on their beliefs not do grandstanding with speeches written by their speechwriters.

Clinton is doing everything to stay in the news including dictating to George Bush! I haven’t heard Mclain demanding George Bush not to attend the opening Ceremonies of the Olympics. Bush and the White House do not need to be dictated to and will reach the appropriate decision.Is anybody noticing how the Clintons are playing a two-faced game, one supportng attendance at the Olympics the other not, one supporting the Columbia Trade Agreement and the other not. They are trying to confuse America – You can’t have it both ways. They are tryng to play it safe and it is rediculous.

PID,
Well said. Call attention to the abusers so they will fill the impact. Hillary is doing just that. Obama is busy equivocating. Maybe he took a poll.
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Do a poll on whether Obama has a spine!
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Obama is waiting on Rev. not-so-Wright to give him insight…

So what’s new. He voted “present” numerous times as a State Senator. He has no experience and no record of accomplishment. You cannot expect him to take a statemans like position on anything of substance. Oh, but he will pour on his empty rhetoric. Wake up people.

Hillary has stepped way out of line demanding George Bush not to attend the Olympics when it entirely within his mandate as President to decide. She needs to stick to the campaign issues.

questioner – You are right about Obama having a great speech writer. He writes more of his own speeches than is typical for most candidates. I find that quite refreshing.

Hillary Clinton and Barack whathisname
are Senators and have the right and
obligation to speak out against
human rights abuses!
Get real America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I bet there are parents out there that still buy toys and dont look at wear it is made. Im willing to bet that once that fell off the medias “important stories”, people felt like it safe again and still buying toys made in China that proabaly have lead in them! Once the “boycott” is over, we’ll all be back to purchasing more stuff from China and keep this snowball going and going and going.

If u think it is dirty now, wait until the Republican Attack Machine gets started…
***Back when EVERYONE was watching the S Carolina debate to find out if Sen. Obama was real change from the politics as usual…
Obama on his first big money supporter, Tony Rezco, “I only worked for five hours for him as a client as a junior lawyer.” (NO BIG DEAL) and then later, “He helped my buy my house and saved me $300,000 and gave 250k to my campaign” and then, “he never asked me for anything.”
What’s up with that ??? Is he lying or naïve?
Plus
His spiritual mentor for 20 years Pastor Wright said America is responsible for 9/11 and “god d@#$ America”, wouldn’t most Americans stand up and walk out….
How can a US Senator Take that…
Obama said, “I was never there in the pews”, and then later “I was there” …
***the Republicans are going to dismantle Sen. Obama …if he wins the Nomination.
a disputed meeting earlier this year between Obama’s senior economic adviser Austan Goolsbee and Canadian diplomats over NAFTA.
In that meeting, which the Obama campaign initially denied ever took place, Goolsbee reportedly told the Canadians that Obama’s tough rhetoric on NAFTA was mere political posturing. After Canadian officials leaked a key memo that called into question the Obama campaign’s repeated denials, the campaign acknowledged the meeting but denied Goolsbee ever said any such thing.
“Again, this story is not true. There was no one at any level of our campaign, at any point, anywhere, who said or otherwise implied Obama was backing away from his consistent position on trade.” Obama Spokesperson Burton said.

oops meant to say “where”! ;-)

jock59801 – Writing about batting in the major leagues is not the same as batting in the major leagues. Nor does writing nice speeches translate to action on Obama’s part either? Case in point the ABC article.

Obama wants to go to Iran and discuss world affairs. Maybe we could give Obama a one way ticket, let’s see how long he stays…

Obama is fence sitter who doesnt always know where to stand . He always stand in between with no experience and knowledge to take a firm stance .Look at Clinton she said it and stood by it . I wonder why people are voting for this man at all he is not just right for the president he still needs to learn not to be a fence sitter.

Please people. read and learn before opening your mouths.
Obama said days ago that he felt the games were about the athelets and if anyone was going to boycott the games he felt it should be the closing not the opening.
Our US athelets were hurt before during an olympic year why do it again?? This is the OLYMPICS not the second coming.

Dogsoldier,
I’m leaving it with you today man. I gotta take care of real world business. If Obama ever finds his spine, let me know. After all he is the politics of change. He doesn’t have to change us much to make us any weaker, though, after eight years of Bush. Is that the kind of change America wants, greater weakness?
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Obama’s silence speaks louder than
words! He’s never heard of China!!

Can Obama find China on the map, without help?

carlson – Obama did not want us to invade Iraq because it was a relly stupid thing to do. I agreed. “Enough said?”

Well, actually, I think it is funny that she opposes Bill on the Colombia thing, since everybody has been saying Bill would be running things. Then yall bash her for that.
Now as to Obama standing up for anything, I got a quote for you from a blogger on muslimsforobama08 posted by ShaikhfromSanJose”another reason I don’t like Obama is because he is doing his best to prove he is not muslim.” And on the website Obama himself said “I wasn’t raised in a religious household, my mother was detatched from religion.” But on a Christian website with the interviewer he said ” my mother was a Christian from Kansas. I have always been a Christian.” I guess it depends on who your audience is.That last quote was from Moriel Ministries. Can you really trust this guy? Nah.

Hillary is no leader she is just a Drama Queen seeking publicity. George Bush can make up his own mind as President obviously without her input.

I just think if we as a country are going to take a “stand”, we should at least make a bigger effort then simply boycotting a sporting event (which ironicly is supposed to bring countries together by way of appreciation of the athletics, if only for short while). And to me the only time when I ever see or hear of action is when it effects the wallet!

Hillary’s suggestion was not to attend the opening ceremonies, not the games. This was a great idea, Obama could learn from Hillary. Did I hear Obama say “present”?

Here’s a scenario for you:
“Commander-in-Chief, bad news, they’re attacking the U.S.” the General says.
Obama pauses, carefully weighs his options. He decides to ask more questions.
Obama asks, inquisitively, intellectually, very professorial-like, in the elite, Harvard manner we’ve grown so accustomed to, “Do you know if Chicago is one of the targets?”
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Obama asks, do you think we can still convince them to change their mind for the sake of change???

then let us boycott all things made in China and stop buying them!!!

This is typical Obama, when there’s a tough or controversial issue he stays away or votes present. He has the worst voting record in the senate.

The only reason Obama has to emphasize his being Christians is because there are want to brand him as a Moslem terrorist. In all reality we should say, what difference does it make? By the way, has anyone checked on Hillary’s religion, I think Bill would prefer living with the sect in Texas:)

Hillary as President to the Chinese: Well gentlemen, I know America owes gratitude for your financial assistance but I have to go with the flow – right now there are protest all over and I am afraid to take a stand to show our friendship. Try and understand guys this is a 3:00am moment. Friends right? I will show up at the Olympics but if you don’t mind not the opening.”

Obama doesnt know what to do about it he is so confused HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man stop standing on the fence you are not just right for the president. but you will be good as the American media ppresident we will give him that but not American president.

Michelle – I just think if we as a country are going to take a “stand”, we should at least make a bigger effort then simply boycotting a sporting event (which ironicly is supposed to bring countries together by way of appreciation of the athletics, if only for short while)
So, Michelle, what do you suggest then?

see, another example, he has no action, no leadership, undecisive.
I don’t want this kind of leader. He is just an opportunist.

When Obama came to the senate, the first person he went to for help was Hillary. In his own words, she was my mentor and one of the most knowledgeable in the senate. In this regard, Obama failed, as he listened to unRev. Wright, who was wrong.

jock59801 – Isn’t “Obama haters” a rather mild expression to describe us Hillary folks?

Now don’t jump to conclusions, give the guy a couple days and I’m sure he’ll have a very appropriate inspirational speech to give on this subject that will explain that he was simply misunderstood, that the fault of the human rights violations should be laid at our feet, and yes, we should all consider sending a contribution to his campaign. All will be well, we’ll be warm and fuzzy, Chris Matthews will get tingles up his legs again and we can without any hesitation elect him to be the next POTUS.

dogsoldier…he did answer. that’s my point…you don’t get it. It is easier to just go with the flow than to show some rational thinking. You are telling me that Clinton has spine? What spine do you have to have to call for a boycott?? Anyone can do that. That’s the easy way to get people like you on their side because you don’t have to actually think about it.

President of US should give all possibilities to American People to express protest.
Any President’s political action on international level should be motivated with the best political interest of USA, taking into account no only HUGE population of China and HUGE American debts, but also nuclear weapon, that China holds.
The action should not be pushed to come by Dems.
With all my respect to Dem party, and personally Barack Obama, political figures should stay apart in this case.
It should be come the Movement of People. The one and only way it will work.
Everyone should do their job on their place, mixing cases never leads to success.
The action should not be pushed to come by Dems.
With all my respect to Dem party, and personaly Barack Obama, political figures should stay apart in this case.
It should be come the Movement of People. The one and only way it will work.

hooperdooper – It’s gotta be Putin because Obama certainly doesn’t know any other Russian leaders name.

Remember the summer Olympics in Berlin?=====================
“The United States considered boycotting the Olympic games, since participating in the festivity might be considered as support for the Nazi Germany regime and its Anti-Semitic policies. However, others argued that the Olympic Games should not be a reflection of political views but strictly a contest of the greatest athletes…………………from Wikipedia
And we know that the Jews were later systematically exterminated during the Third Reich.
This time, something very similar is happening. The human rights of Tibet is being violated by the most powerful country in Asia. The question is how should our leaders react to this??? It is sad that just because of the bloggers here support Sen Obama and the Sen can hardly make a decision on how to react to the issue, they give the same excuse that most of the bloggers in this forum are giving…. that the Olympics are about the athletes …….
Unless we and our leaders(or those who profess to be leaders) show China that we are not pleased with what they are doing to Tibet the situation will only grow worse.

Dogsoldier – No, I wasn’t necessarily talking about “Hillary folks.” I assume that many of the full-time Obama haters on here are actually conservatives, whether or not they pretend to be “Hillary folks.” The same is probably true of many of the Hillary haters too. It doesn’t really matter the motiviation, though. I will defend either candidate against slander.

i luv barack obama hed maake a great president

hooperdooper – While I respect your decisions on your lifestyle, I don’t think it’s fair to assume everyone is going to throw your types of parties just because they’ve moved into the White House.

Ducks out?! That’s because his “chickens are coming home to roost”
BTW…PM Gordon Brown is boycotting the Olympics…
Oh well, Bwark! must be fund raising:
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/search/label/Barack%20Obama

dogsoldier needs to shut his big fat donkey mouth.

politicsIsdirty – Are you implying that boycotting the Berlin games would have helped the Jews in any way? Boycotting the Beijing games will not help the Tibetans either. In fact, I have heard a couple of different Tibet experts agree that it would be a disaster for the Tibetans – prompting China to just crack down all the more visciously.

Obama’s motto. Never say anything significant – just promise the moon and explain nothing.

Can someone ask him how he would handle the present situation in Kenya

Sam – why are you telling dogsoldier to shut up? Truth hurts right..hahaha.. Clinton – 08

“politicsIsdirty – Are you implying that boycotting the Berlin games would have helped the Jews in any way? Boycotting the Beijing games will not help the Tibetans either. In fact, I have heard a couple of different Tibet experts agree that it would be a disaster for the Tibetans – prompting China to just crack down all the more visciously.”
I appreciate your comments jock59801.
As a leader of the Free World, you have to send a message to China that you are not pleased with what is happening in Tibet. Boycotting the Opening Ceremony or the Olympics itself will make the world more aware of the situation in Tibet and galvanize all freedom loving countries of the world to speak out against what China is doing.

rbp – Obama has already tried to help the situation in Kenya. After the New Hampshire primary, Secretary of State Rice asked him to record a message calling for an end to the violence, which he did. He also talked to Odinga about trying to resolve the situation.

Once again, Obama is remaining silent until somebody tells him what the Olympic issue is all about and how he should respond.

WestCoastMessanger, since when the No 2 has said that the No1 has to follow. Hill the Bosnian General is No 2 and she cannot take the lead from Obama the No 1, she has to follow her leader and not to react as Tibet or Darfur were news issues. Obama has given his view as a leader about the issues and Hill has to follow, she cannot dictate to WBush or to Obama, they are her leaders. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

BKMC – WCM had to leave earlier.

Dogsoldier – I am well aware of Obama’s relationship to Odinga. I am also aware that there is no evidence he instigated the violence, and there is no evidence that he is even a Muslim, let alone signed any alleged memo about Sharia law. Not everything you read about on the internet is true.

“…if we are running huge deficits and big national debts and we’re borrowing money constantly from China, that gives us less leverage. It give us less leverage to talk about human rights, it also is giving us less leverage to talk about the uneven trading relationship that we have with China.”
Obama is right. The Republicans and the Clintons should all be ashamed of what they turned The United States of America into.
Once upon a time, We had very strong leverage. Thank you Republicans for taking our leverage away from the USA.

jock59801 – Look, America is the light of the world whether we want that responsibility or not. At least that’s who we’ve been for decades. That calls for hard choices sometimes and this is one of those times when we speak up or pretend we see nothing, know nothing, and do nothing. Well, we’ve basically done that in Durfur and did any of the killing stop? Anyone? This is on OUR watch guys. In OUR time. Now!

former Obama supporter
This is the new democratic party. The core values have been abandoned. The party has been hijacked by elitists left wingers. Easy to see!

I suppose Obama could have said something like lets nuke ‘em but this boycot stuff is silly. We should have put pressure on them a long time ago if this was really serious. This is all theater otherwise.

Not everything you read about on the internet is true._______________That is unless it is about Hilliary, right, Obama is racist bigot,,,,

Hillary is too political on this subject! She is trying to offend people instead of to unite people. I voted her in the primary but now I regret. I will not vote her again.

Maybe Deval Patrick or Rev. Wright weren’t around to tell him what to say or do.

Berlin was named host of the OLympic games in 1931… four years before the bloody reign of Hitler.
Stories of his atrocities to the Jews was just beginning to trickle out and were so outrageous, it took a while before the truth became believable… possibly, too late.
But had we KNOWN what we’ve learned since about the 1936 Berlin Games, I believe we WOULD have stepped down and, possibly,even eliminated ourselves from the games.
So yes, I thnk Hillary was right to do what she did!

Kevin
Do you expect Obama to speak on policy when he doesn’t understand the issues. He’ll say something but only when his string-pullers tell him what to say.

Hillary Clinton is not perfect and so are we. At this point in time we the American people need to get together and nominate the person that will matter in November. Hillary Clinton can turn this country around. I am one of those people that have lost a job and soon will loose a home. My future and my childrens future depends on my democratic parties nominee. I have voted democratic all of my adult life. If Barack Obama is the nominee I will put mine and my childrens future in front of the party. I will vote John Mccain in November. Obama’s call for a change is just that a mere call. More and more we see who he truly is. He is nothing like the carefully crafted image him and his camp is portraying. I am calling out to the democrats and independents..More than ever we must all come together and call ourselves Americans and step up to the plate. It’s our turn to bat. Vote for Hillary!!!

bpatz3 – Well said, my friend.

Anyone who has a grain of knowledge about Chinese culture and Chinese politics knows that you do not disparage or rebuke the Chinese publicly. To do so does not allow the Chinese to save face, which is paramount in the culture (http://www.chinese-forums.com/archive/index.php/t-2509.html).
Obama understands this infinitely better than the Clown in Chief we have now and is exercising excellent judgment in not jumping on the band wagon, which is the obvious and easy thing to do from the western perspective. And it would be precisely the wrong thing. You notice how the Chinese stance gets more firmly entrenched the more flack they get? This is not a coincidence. Now they are taking about “severely dealing with demonstrators” in Tibet (as though they have not already) and claiming the Dalai Lama is a terrorist leader. This seems foolish to those in the US, but it is the Chinese perspective that dictates this response and it will only get worse if we try to force their hand.
Not only that, but they are in fact lending us huge some of money to finance the war in Iraq, and hold a very favorable position with the US in trade as well. All of this together means it is the wise and prudent thing to go easy on the Chinese publicly, and bring some heat in private.
Of course, this requires diplomacy; something the current administration has none of, and Clinton only in short supply. She doesn’t get it.

Weak on human rights? Vote present? How stuipd are you? President Bush has brrowed billions of dollars from China and we have NAFTA agreement with them as well. Its hard to tell someone that you owe that kind of money to what they need to do in their own country.
Just think if this was America, there are a lot of Americans who would be telling China to mind their own business and not tell America how to deal with it’s people. Think back Martin Luther King, Presidnent Lydon B Johnson, sounds fimilar doesn’t it?

This is such an inaccurate article it’s ridiculous. Obama addressed the Olympic issue on the Chis Mathews college tour last week. Obama stated America needs to do something about China’s human rights abuses, but he does not believe using the Olympics to voice our concerns is the right thing. Obama stated the Olympics is about bringing the world together. He has not ducked this issue at all.

ConfuciUS – Confucius (551-479 BCE) Note the year of death. Perhaps you may have noticed that China has moved on since then. Maybe some of your ancestors were still living in caves during Confusius’s time and I hope you too have advanced since then.

HEIDI – We get most of our oil from Canada and pay not attention to what they say. I owe money for my vehicles and don’t give a da*n what my bank says or thinks. When my banks abuse third world slave economies I let those sucks know where I stand. Obama aught to buy a spine with all of his internet funds. At least a spine not make of jelly.

White female not for Obama
It’s no wonder why many of you white women complain about not getting ahead and being discriminated against. It’s because many of you lack the intelligence to the see the forest from the trees. Many of you would rather have Hillary in office,than to do the right thing and wait for the right woman to be elected. Hillary is a poor example for young women and I hope in the future white women still are discrimated against because you have no brains.

Some people here dont have a clue. When big bill left office the deficit was under control and we were paying it down. we had a surplus of money. get your facts straight. say what you will, things were good under bill clinton. dems. seem to have forgotton that.

LISA HAMPTON:
EXCEPT FOR RACE AND GENDER, MANY FEEL THE SAME ABOUT THE GUY WHO CAN’T DECIDE WHICH OF HIS NAMES WOULD BE THE MOST POLITICALLY CORRECT….

Dogsoldier,
The truth of the matter it is inaccurate because he stated his position on national television. Why don’t you use your brain instead of letting your jealousy of Obama get the best of you. I know you can’t stand the idea of a black man being president, but you better get used to it.

WOW, thank you lisa hamilton for telling me what i have to get used too. you must be one of the educated upper middle class i have been hearing about for obama. i guess if us dummys dont agree with you, we should just shut up and go away. thank you lisa hamilton, obama supporter, dumb a–.

lisa hampton
and you’ll note that i don’t call YOU stupid….
just a tad misguided.

Lisa Hampton – Exactly. Obama and the scarecrow have too much in common. Both are searching for a brain. How nice of you to notice. Obama is BLACK? Who knew?

HEIDI
Come on — put your money where your mouth is. Explain exactly how Bush ‘borrowed’ money from the Chinese.
Get a life!

Once again, Obama tried to pull a fast one on us. He must’ve gotten negative feedback on his WEAK stance yesterday about the olympics issue. This time, pretending to be more forceful on China’s HR issue. To those of you who thought he was thoughtful and discerning about his non-committal position earlier, it took him 24 hours to find out how the political winds are blowing. This is no voice of reason, but voice of politics – as usual.

Ton – Is this “speech” equally as binding as Obama’s public financing promise? You know, that public financing promise he’s dumping now? Well, that certainly solves the Durfur and the Tibet and the China problems. Wow. Think Obama might have been waiting around for Hillary to lead the way again?

Thank Goodness we have the electorial college. For the first time, I realize we can not count on the popular vote because there are too many uneducated voters that are caught up in the “Movie Star” candidate.

So Dogsoldier
Who will you vote for if Hillary looses?

@Dogsoldier -
I understand your point of view. But this is what I mean, when I talk about a “voice of reasoning”. Remember, Obama is not recommending a **bycott**, like Clinton and some others, he is actually suggesting for us to think ahead as we make decisions. He is saying – Hey… we are someday going to be vying for this thing, so we should tackle it carefully, in a way that will get the chinese to recognize free press, human rights, etc, but at the same not blow our changes of hosting the world in 2016.
Just for the records, last week, Obama said, “I’m hesitant to make the Olympics a site of political protest because I think it’s partly about bringing the world together” and Monday in a statement did not address the proposal to boycott the opening ceremony. If the Chinese government did not work “toward meaningful autonomy for Tibet,” Obama said, “there should be consequences.”
Chicago 2016 spokesman Patrick Sandusky said, “If we are fortunate enough to be chosen as a candidate city, we would be honored to attend the Beijing Games.”
Ed Hula, who edits around therings.com, which covers the Olympics’ business side, said a U.S. boycott “would kill the bid” for Chicago.
As the Olympic torch heads for San Francisco, officials are ready for more protests in the lone American stop for the torch. “The situation in San Francisco is also a worry” for the United States Olympic Committee, added Hula.
European leaders are considering a boycott of the opening ceremony. The Bush White House is not.
So you can see some level headedness and calm reasoning and this I think is what is expected of a leader -

Obama needs to stop worry about West African Forest Negroes. Blacks in america got real problems here. and i refuse to capitalize america, because yes america is still run by racists whites. white gave black ppl AIDs. well, the jokes on you. Black ppl will keep on having sex with white woman and men until all of you have it too. With more blacks in media and manipulation, whites are no longer afraid of whites (and dont see as murders, dirty or rapists anymore), and we will take full advantage. our time has come, its our time now. move over. 1 p.s. get ready for real equality. payback is a b***. ghostface killas.

kanobi11 – I noticed someone used your name and refrained from commenting.

I agree Obama is a follower not a leader. He is a coward that is so passive that it is scary to even imagine him running this country. Bush should never been given the chance and neither should be given to Obama. Senator Obama needs to stop deceiving the voters by giving full stand on issues important to the USA. He needs to stop flip flopping too.

To jYAjAY and anyone else who is confused about what Senator Clinton stated: she is advocating a boycott of the opening ceremony, not a boycott of the Olympic games. This does not impact the athletes one iota. Yet another Obama supporter who is too busy drinking the Kool-Aid to actually understand the facts.

The Olympic Games attendance is not and has never been a campaign issue. It is a matter of choice if any of the candidates want to voice an opinion. McClain is noted for giving an opinion either. Hillary is jumping on all the news ban wagons she can relevant or not to try to make some point against Obama.

She just said that to win favor with Pelosi who said it weeks ago – you know suck up for the delegate count!!Get it.

China is good enough to borrow from, but bad enough to boycott on human rights?
What hypocrites you are?
It’s like your relationship with your parents. You want to criticize the way they raised you and still borrow money from them. Is this the American way?

Dogsoldier~ You are truly confused if you think those are the thoughts of Confucius. This is the current reality in China, to this very day. The forum and Wiki entry I reference are current thinking on a complex set of social values. We don’t expect every red-blooded, narrow-minded American to understand this culture; it is what it is.
But continue on in your own dream reality…

China is our banker but Human Rights should trump money always. Although we are in or headed for a recession Tibet and Darfur are fighting for basic rights and a peaceful living. We are apparently in Iraq for the same reason but using violence and risk our troops lives…so Bush says. We can deal with these two countries in a peaceful manner by protesting a letting China know that what they are doing is not cool. Also if China bankrupts us by calling us on our debt…it would not help their economy. Their currency is highly undervalued and they are struggling to balance inflation.

Obama is wishy-washy and tries to be all things to all people all of the time. This is definitely another “present” vote. Please God, let Clinton win the Democratic nomination!!!