Obama Backer Calls McCain a ‘Warmonger’
ABC’s Sunlen Miller and Jan Simmonds report: A comment made by radio talk show host Ed Schultz at a North Dakota Democratic Party fundraiser that Sen. Barack Obama attended Friday night in Grand Forks, N.D. is getting some heat.
Schultz called John McCain a “warmonger.” Obama was in the building at the time, but was not in the room, according to a pool report from the event. The campaign says he did not hear Schultz’s remarks.
Three people spoke in between Schultz and Obama. When Obama spoke he thanked Schultz, saying he was the “voice of progressive radio,” and someone “who knows a little bit about sports.”
The McCain campaign is raising some dust over Obama thanking Schultz’ comments, saying they were “disparaging.” They also noted that McCain denounced radio host Bill Cunningham’s disparaging comments about Obama immediately upon hearing of them.
McCain himself weighed in during a press availability in Prescott, Ariz.
"It’s a free country and we have freedom of speech. And Mr. Schultz is entitled to his views. But I hope that in keeping with the spirit of Sen. Obama, that they condemn, that Sen. Obama will condemn such language since it was a part of his campaign. But that kind of language is unnecessary for this campaign. I think its very clear how I feel about war and my experiences with it."
The Obama campaign has just come out with a paper statement from national spokeswoman Jen Psaki: “John McCain is not a warmonger and should not be described as such. He’s a supporter of a war that Sen. Obama believes should have never been authorized and never been waged.”
The campaign also says that Schultz is not an Obama surrogate and was asked to speak at the event by the North Dakota Democratic Party.
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So, why is this news?
Warmonger may be a strong term — I’ll have to look it up on dictionary.com to see the precise meaning. But John McCain, who’s view of the Vietnam war was largely from high in the sky (prior to his capture), is hardly a peacemaker! As a Vietnam Veteran, I think McCain has a much higher thirst for war than I am comfortable with.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | April 5, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Obama as i said before says one thing and then changes when he sees it fit to help his agenda or when convenient for him. Is that the kind of president we want? NOT ME.
Posted by: Persio | April 5, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Clearly there are differences between words said by these two radio talk show hosts, Calling Barak’s middle name which he rejects is intended for personal destruction because he has not chosen that name. Calling McCain a warmonger or a war lover, a militarist and interventionist is a policy issue and a choice he is making everyday in his adult life and as a senator. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 5, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
McCain wants to attack Iran, Obama wants to go back into Afghanistan, can you say shell game.
Posted by: hey | April 5, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Uh, hey, we are already IN Afghanistan, and arguably we should be more involved there (and in Pakistan) where the true enemy is likely located. Big difference between that and continuing Bush/Cheney’s war(s).
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | April 5, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Jackt51,
It’s news because it exposes more of the bozos that Obama surrounds himself with. It also shows once again that Obama is politically immature.
Meanwhile we’ll all sit back and watch you and Obama get swiftboated once again. Good luck with that!
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Obama is green behind the ears!
Obama is unelectable!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 5, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
If McCain wants an apology from Schulz, great, but why from Obama? From now on, can we all just agree that candidates are responsible only for their OWN statements?
Posted by: emily | April 5, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
BKMC-Nine of eleven 9/11 terrorists are from Saudi Arabia. Get the facts at least correct. Osama can be in any country as he was back then (Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, back in Pakistan and so on) and as he is now. Perhaps most Al Quaeda are now in Pakistan today and does that mean we should invade Pakistan? Facts: No one knows what the world will look like nine months from now so an program by any candidate predicting the future isn’t worth the paper its written on. And thinking mind knows that.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Are we still in the silly season?
This is just dumb.
Posted by: Maritza | April 5, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Dogsoldier, Osama is from Saudi Arabia, that is not the point, some of the terrorists had a Saudi passport as Osama has a saudi passport. Mohamed Atta is from egypt so is the No 2 in Osama’s alQaeda. Please, do not change the conversation. These terrorists were trained in and came from Afganistan and the epicenter of islam-terrorism is in Afganistan and Obama said that the war on terror has to be there, a demonstration of good judgement and leadership.God bless America and God bless obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 5, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Jackt51,
I’m all for Hillary winning fair and square, by the rules. The Obama zombies are the only ones walking around claiming she is trying to “steal” the election, as if they “own” the crown.
Good luck with those rules. It’s all about the unions as we finish taking the hill.
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Obama is politically immature!
Obama doesn’t want all voters to count!
Hillary stands up for all voters!
Vanessa owes Hillary and apology!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 5, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Dogsoldier, let us make clear that Osama is between Afganistan and Pakistan (CIA report). Pakistan cannot continue to harbor terrorists who killed more than 3000 innocents Americans and not feel the heat. Obama will put on fire the feet of all these Pakistani leaders so that Osama is captured and brought to justice. The eye on the ball. Good bless America and Good bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 5, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
BKMC-Afghanistan is only ONE Al Quaeda training site. Al Quaeda is not some static entity otherwise they would have been wiped out years ago. Al Quaeda is a living breathing organization capable of functioning without Afghanistan or Osama. That was the lesson America SHOULD have learned if nothing else. Obama better understand this lesson as of yesterday because you did not.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
New Yorker-Perhaps you could tell that message to the muggers in New York. That a fine place to start.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
WestCoastMessanger, you owe an apology to Obama. I do not wish to go into character assassination. Today you have to come to term with your unelectable candidate Hill’s lack of judgement. Chosing a campaign manager who is laundering money from Colombia is just a shame and blattant lack of judgement, period. That is what Obama said since day one, it is not about being ready on day one but getting it right on day one. Hill has to go back to the Bosnian snipers. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 5, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
BKMC-WCM will apologize when Obama gives back money from the oil for food program Nadhmi Auchi a Saddam buddy gave Rezko for the Obama campaign.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Why are people so interested in pulling a good man down? If someone sneezes, it’s obama, if another coughs, it’s obama. Despite every falsehood being peddled against him, one thing that gladdens my heart is that no one has been able to come up with anything that could be linked directly to him. This attitude is a typical case of one calling a dog name in order to kill it.
Equally, i’m very happy that obama continues to thrive despite all the falsehood. He keeps outraising every other person out there, his numbers in the poll keeps rising, more and more endorsement keeps coming his way.
What does all these signify? It shows that you can never keep a good man/woman down. The more people peddles falsehood and hate against the person, the more successful he/she becomes!
Americans are solidly behind obama! We all want the glory of this great country to be restored, we’re are all yearning for the good old days when this great country commanded respect from the international community. We all want the wasteful spending in iraq to come to an end, we need jobs, affordable health care etc and above all, we are tired of the same old system that has brought us to this level. And come november next, obama will be voted in as the next President of this great country, and he will do very well restoring us all! Pls do mark my words!
Posted by: dew5050 | April 5, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
The truth hurts doesn’t it. McCain’s whole campaign is based on foreign policy. He starts out his biography tour talking about the admirals in his family that has made a big impact in his life. He says Americans can get over their cynicism by joining the army.
He goes around singing bomb bomb bomb Iran to tune of the beach boys.He said he will never surrender in Iraq. Come on now if the shoe fits!
Posted by: merle7 | April 5, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
To all you Hillary lovers- don’t vote for Obama in the national election if you are not comfortable doing so. Either stay home or vote for the Republican candidate, for 8 more years of Bush/McCain and wonderful Conservative/Republican politics . The choice is yours. Use your vote as you see fit- stick it to the Obama lovers- I mean really show them- suck up to Republicans and vote along side Rush, Hannity, and Coulter for more of the same. It’s a free country- do what ever you think is right.
Posted by: rco | April 5, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Simply truth: a vote for Obama will be a vote for Mccain…
McCain will beat Obama easily by playing experience and race cards…
McCain will sweep all red states and win Mi., FL, Penn & OH…
If McCain pick Colin Powell as vp.. He may win MD, VA, SC, NC, GA as well…
So what else can Obama win?
Posted by: True Truth | April 5, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Better than voting Obama. Because if you are a reflection of the change Obama promised then McCain looks better and better every day.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Dogsoldier, my Republican friends welcome you aboard the McCain “Straight Talk Express”- the Bush endorsed, Mr. 894 out of 899 ranked graduate from the Naval Academy at Annapolis- the train is departing- all aboard?
Posted by: rco | April 5, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Dew5050,
I’m as concerned as you are about anyone that tells lies about Obama. Quite often I hear people make up information about Obama and I’m quick to correct it. For example, lots of people have tried to deny that Obama’s 20 year relationship with the hate-speaking Wright is irrelevant in the political campaign. I’m forced to correct them — it because relevant the moment that the politically immature Obama placed Reverend Wright onto Obama’s campaign. We’re on the exact same page with regards to telling the truth about Obama.
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Obama is green behind the ears!
Obama does not standu up for all voters!
Obama admits he smoked crack!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 5, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
rco: 56% of Hillay supporters who have been cursed,and demeaned by Obama supporters will do just that! If its Obama v McCain, well we can all just start calling McCain Mr. President, no need to wait!
Posted by: russell | April 5, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Franky, I couldn’t see any leadership or accomplishment from Obama…
He was never in an executive position in town hall, city hall, state or Federal…
His recent job is just to push two buttons: Yes or No, maybe sometime, the third one: “present”…
Forget he did have experience from street as community and church organizer, where he was well trained how to speak the way some people will “fall in love” with him…
That is the sad fact..
Posted by: True Truth | April 5, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Russell, welcome aboard the McCain “Straight Talk Express”. Mr. “894/899″ McCain will appreciate you crossing over to join him and the Conservatives. Punish those Obama lovers- big time. Don’t you folks understand the democratic nomination is already over? Get behind or upcoming democratic nominee or defect, do what ever you think is right…
Posted by: rco | April 5, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Russell,
That’s funny dude. Maybe they can bring Rezko on for a guest appearance and call it the Little Give and the Big Take.
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Obama got $250,000, Rezko gets jail!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 5, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Vannessa: Didn’t federal marshalls arrest one of his SD in Puerto Rico! Guess the one you mentioned makes up for that one!
Posted by: russell | April 5, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Yes, the Clintons donated 10 Million to charity, which demonstrates their generosity and good will toward people in need. The Obama’s gave $27,000 to Rev. Wright’s church since 2005, which demonstrates their inability to represent all Americans.
Posted by: Emily | April 5, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Vanessa,
There’s nothing wrong with accepting gifts from the parents. Just remember to share 10 per cent with the less fortunate. In other words, follow the Clintons lead (Obama sets a bad example on this accord).
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Obama gives miniscule to charity!
Hillary and Bill give plenty!
Obama not ready for prime time!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 5, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
backoffnewscensors-Way too deep for simple minded Obama supporters.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 5, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Mc Cain is no war monger.
Look. Invading Iraq was prez bushes baby. The authorization to ‘use military force’ was not the same thing as having a full scale Vietnam type war.
However, once we invaded Iraq, we made a commitment to the people fo Iraq to stabilize the area.
According to Obama and Clinton, we just uproot and leave the place in far worse shape than when Saddam was there?
This isnt fair to the Iraq people. Is it bleeding us dry? Yes. Was it stupid to begin with ? Yes.
But just leaving the area and allowing the place to be a free for all chaos zone is not something the United States can do.
We have a moral obligation to finish what we started. If we dont stabilize the country, the whole world will look at us as DESTROYING IRAQ and having it far worse than if we never went there.
So grab a brain and realize we have a responsibility here.
Posted by: tomdavie | April 5, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
One I know for sure, as long as Obama is out there, I will never vote for him due to the fact that he’s been associated with extremism movement. I would rather vote for another Bush 4 years knowing I have a patriotic president who genuinely cares about the welfare of each and every americans. I am sure Obama has more skeletons hidden in his closets waiting to be discovered but his extremism and liberal views are enough reason for me not to vote for him. He will never help me pay for my bills, get me a reasonal and reliable health care and fix our ailing economy. I want a President who is willing to work hard and find solution.
Posted by: JAMES, PA | April 5, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell. Who can argue that McCain isn’t a hawk? Get over it, people. Move on to the real issues.
Posted by: Bill | April 5, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
The situation is a little different. Cunningham was speaking at a McCain event, which suggests McCain might have vetted what he was going to say. Obama can’t possibly hope to be responsible for what Schulz says on his own radio show, anymore than he can hope to be responsible for what his pastor says from the pulpit.
Posted by: markymark | April 5, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Obama thinks we can rid the world of atomic weapons. He wants to cut payroll taxes for those making less than $75K (even though the system is screwed), he hangs out with bigots and gets loans from a dirty guy, and he wants to ramp up capital gains taxes at a time that money is fleeing the market. Obama will merely continue us down a reckless road that Dubya got us rolling on. The final nail in the coffin of all these candidates will be a carbon tax that will kill out economy and send us all the Central America to try and scrape by on what we have left.
Posted by: Bubba | April 5, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I see the Obama whack jobs are in here trying to defend their Messiah.
I am voting for McCain. The number of Florida Democrats that are stating they are voting for McCain instead of Obama is amazing. Good!
This Democrat supports a war hero McCain over the lying sack of do-nothingness Obama.
Posted by: libby | April 5, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Has anyone else noticed…..I use my real name, I am proud of who I am.
These republicans use fake names…run out of their closets, type a few words, and then run back to their closets.
Just like their President..”All Mouth and No action”…….a bunch of worthless punks who condone the damages to this country by the Bush administration and his republican congress!!
Take that into consideration when you read the BS they post……
They take pride in the destruction that’s been done and will be done to our country…
Posted by: Dave Peck | April 5, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Not much of a story. What this comes down to is a harshly termed characterization of a candidate by a supporter of another.
If we held all candidates responsible for this type of labeling by some supporter, there wouldn’t be anyone running.
Posted by: 63tango | April 5, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Be nice Obama, McCain is our next president…..you will be needing a job..
Posted by: pathlo | April 5, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Ouch, that really hurts One Foot! I was or course speaking in terms of National Defense, apparently your limited cerebral mass kept you from picking up that subtle nuance though, huh? How’s blocking the voters rights in Florida and Michigan going?
Posted by: todd | April 5, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Here in PA Obama has ads decrying the high price of gasoline. He ends with saying that he would never take any money from the oil companies. This shows what a shallow person he is. It is unlawful for companies to donate to political campaigns. What he does not say is that he received over $400,000. from executives of big oil and $100,000. from their employees. another freightning thing about him is that call at 3 in the morning. With his affinity for drugs, one wonders will he be higher than a kite when that call comes. PEOPLE LOOK CLOSELY THAT THIS PERSON.
Posted by: Russ | April 5, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Obama sat in the church 20 years listening to Wrights filth about whites, aids and America. Markymark that is totally different? Of course Obama agrees with Wright or the first time he heard this he would have walked out. You must think people are stupid. I know you are blinded by color. Nobody in their right mind would vote Obama!!! The man is a racist. You know the word. It’s the one Obama supporters use when Obama’s back is against the wall. Or, if we won’t vote for him. It’s never because he has empty words or that he isn’t qualified. It’s never because he’s the racist it’s because we must racist or we would vote for him. I know a lot of Americans rights are being taken away lately but I didn’t think our ability to think for ourselves or vote for who we choose had been taken away. Are you not voting for Clinton because she is white? Maybe it’s because she’s a woman? Which is it? Have a nice day! Try to get over your racism and sexist attitude. I’ve gotton over mine. Your an Obama plant aren’t you?
Posted by: carolyn | April 5, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
@Joanna Bickley
I have asked foxnews and the nytimes to point me to the resourcse that says Obama wants 60,000+ boots on ground in IRAQ by 2010. I have gone to the center for new American Security web site and read all the policy papers by Colin Kahl (Obama’s adviser quoted on the issue) and there is nothing of such. If you have the original source, please post it here so we can all read it and make our judgements and decisions.
Oh!!! btw 2010 is consistent with Obama’s 16 months strategy to withdraw troops from IRAQ. I’m an informed conservative republican.
Posted by: Ton | April 5, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
So what, he is! All he knows is the war. He will do nothing for the economy (he has no clue). He served his country admirably and all Americans should thank him for that, but being a war hero/prisoner or war does not qualify one to be the President. All McCain talks about is the war in Iraq and possibly with Iran–promising there will be more wars–Enough said!
Posted by: J.L. | April 5, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Jackt51:
John McCain is a Patriot who served his
country!
In case you Dems forgot 3,000
American citizens, Not Soldiers, were
killed on 9/11!
Posted by: reaganfan | April 5, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
What’s the big deal – McCain IS a warmonger. Remember the guy PERSONALLY dropped bombs on North Vietnamese civilans. Why is it wrong to call McCain what he is and has always been: a professional killer and a warmonger.
Posted by: Ruths Chris | April 5, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
One Foot….I guess BHO might win the European vote (I’m sure he likes croissants and fondu), probably get the bad bowlers vote too? Otherwise he’s got all he can handle with Hill. I really loved the way he shimmied on that show with Ellen – so suave’. Keep those voters away from the polls in FL and MI if you can, better get back to your shrink now.
Posted by: todd | April 5, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Hillary: “Urban legends r us”
Posted by: Snoopy | April 5, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Hey Reaganfan – thanks for the reminder a-hole. But while you were home watching the whole thing on TV, I was there in lower Manhattan on 9/11. I worked two blocks from the WTC and it was my subway stop on the R train. I lost friends and colleagues that day and I was evacuated across the Brooklyn bridge, breathing in that horrible cloud of smoke and debris and god knows what else and now I have athsma that I never had before. So don’t you friggin DARE attempt to lecture ME about 9/11 you stupid partisan Republican a-hole. Stop hijacking our horror and grief to justify your stupid, failed war and your retarded, failed, warmongering Republican ideology of collapse and regression. America hates you people now and we will for as long as we live! You’ve shamed yourself and our country and we will never, ever forgive you. Sit down and think about your disgrace!
Posted by: Kotke | April 5, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
reaganfan,
spoken like a true oblivious reaganhead..I was in NYC, working on Broad St in 2001, 8 blocks from WTC. I had dust from WTC on my office window for 5 months. I wore a surgical maks for weeks follwoing the attackes. I do not appreciate your use of the attacks as a defense for a man who went to war against a country that was not an imminent threat. I was all for obliterating Afghanistan. I NEVER understood going into Iraq. Next time examine the facts and data, instead of using jingoistic statements!!!
Posted by: miles1967 | April 5, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
A Republican who doesn’t take pride in being called a warmonger?
What is the world coming to?
Posted by: Archos | April 5, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
For all you Obama supporters read the following and know the difference between JOHN MCCAIN a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN and OBAMA a MARXIST SYMPATHIZER-
Here is an article in NewsWithViews.com dated 3/22 by Jim Kouri entitled “Talk Show Host Reveals Obama Connection to Terrorists“:
Syndicated talk show host Laurie Roth’s revelations make the news story about Obama’s relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor look like child’s play.
A top official at the Pentagon during former-President George H. W. Bush’s Administration and a former CIA intelligence officer maintain that Barack Obama and former Weather Underground honcho William Ayers funneled money to Professor Rashid Khalidi, a known terrorist sympathizer.
Khalidi serves on the faculty of Columbia University in New York and is best known as the professor who invited Iranian President Ahmedinejad to visit Columbia University after he finished his speech at the United Nations. According to confidential sources, Khalidi has direct ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), a group on the US State Department’s list of known terrorist groups.
“One source for this information was once a top military figure in the 1990s. He doesn’t take making allegations lightly. If he says something happened, believe me, it happened,” said syndicated radio talk show host Laurie Roth.
“Another source is a former agent for the Central Intelligence Agency, who is an expert in counterterrorism,” said Roth, who broke the story on her show Friday night.
“I certainly don’t want to demonize someone because they are a woman, black or liberal running for President. I love the idea that in our culture, a black and woman can now run. However, it does matter to me with any candidate, their consistency with good judgment, their voting record, their association with people with questionable backgrounds and commitment to our country,” she said during her show. To listen to Laurie Roth’s 3-21-08 show click here.
Here are the connections as described by very reliable sources, who possess impressive military, national security and intelligence backgrounds:
Allison Davis, who hired the young Obama into his small, Chicago law firm Davis, Miner, and Barnhill in 1993, left the firm in late 1999-2000 and became a housing developer. Davis went into business with Tony Rezko, the indicted businessman who’s scheduled to go on trial for corruption in Illinois, and who was a major fundraiser for Obama.
Davis met Rezko when he was a client of Davis, Miner, and Barnhill. Rezko is currently under indictment in Illinois for demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state government business contracts under Governor Blagojevich. Obama was identified as one of the politicians cited in the indictment as having received political contributions from Rezko out of his kickback funds.
Tony Rezko hosted fundraising events for Obama in his home and was on Obama’s US Senate campaign finance committee which collected $14 million for his campaign against conservative Alan Keyes, an African-American who served as an Ambassador during the Reagan Administration. In order to avoid a scandal during his presidential campaign, Obama returned $85,000 that Rezko and his family had donated to him.
In early 2000, while Obama served as a state senator in Illinois, he also sat on the board of the nonprofit Woods Fund. The Woods Fund is a Chicago-based foundation that claims its primary mission is to make financial grants in order to increase and/or create opportunities for disadvantaged people and low-income communities.
The chairman of the Woods fund board in 2000 was Howard Stanback, who like Obama also had connections to Davis, according to the reliable sources.
Davis submitted a grant request to the Woods Foundation for a $1 million investment in his development partnership, Neighborhood Rejuvenation LP, that would be used to finance low-income senior-citizen housing. Under normal circumstances, a board member is supposed to recuse himself or herself from decisions where they have a business or personal relationship.
Obama, who did not recuse himself, voted to approve Davis’ grant request. Stanback, on the other hand, abstained from voting. The housing project, which also received a $5.7 million loan from the city of Chicago, in turn donated almost $70,000 in political contributions to Obama’s presidential campaign.
In the past, Rezko gave Obama — who served as an Illinois State Senator — his first two political contributions in 1995, $1,000 each from two of his companies. In 1998, State Senator Obama wrote letters to city and state officials urging them to fund a Davis-Rezko housing project. It was an obvious quid pro quo arrangement.
Another major fundraiser for Obama is William Ayers, who also sat on the board of the Woods Fund with Obama and is a professor at the University of Chicago.
Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernadine Dohrn, was an active member of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing group that advocated violence against the United State. Both Ayers and Dohrn went “underground” in 1970 after others in the group accidentally detonated a bomb in a Greenwich Village (New York City) townhouse. The blast killed three of the group’s members including Ayers’ girlfriend at the time.
While Ayers and Dohrn were hiding from law enforcement, the Weather Underground participated in the bombings of the US Capital, the Pentagon and a State Department building. In 1981 Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in to federal authorities, but all charges were dropped as a result of alleged “government legal misconduct.” In his 2001 memoir, Ayers wrote, “I don’t regret setting the bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Ayers and Dohrn are known to have held at least one fundraiser for Barack Obama in their Chicago home.
During Obama’s last year on the board of The Woods Fund (2002), he participated in awarding grants, including a $70,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, a Chicago-based group founded by Rashid and Mona Khalidi.
In another suspected quid pro quo arrangement similar to those with Ayers and Rezko, Rashid Khalidi also held a fundraising event in his home for Barack Obama.
In the Middle East, Rashid Khalidi was known as a man to be reckoned with. From 1972 through 1983, Khalidi was the director in Beirut of the official Palestinian press agency, FAFA. His wife worked there as well.
According to sources, when the Khalidi’s left Chicago for Columbia University in New York, Rashid was honored with the Edward Said Chair in Arab Studies at that Ivy League university. Their goodbye party in Chicago included testimonials from Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.
“What other fund raising connections does Obama have? How many times can you look the other way in church and with fund raising situations with more than questionable people?” asked Ms. Roth.
“We all make mistakes in judgment with people and their backgrounds sometimes, but usually we learn and pick better friends and associates. How come Obama seems to have continued hanging around more than questionable characters with anti American backgrounds and some with criminal behaviors? Now one is being indicted, Tony Rezco, who raised a ton of money for Obama,” she said.
“As President, how much would he look the other way when dealing with national security and dangers to our country? How much would he listen passively to terrorist leaders then lecture us on our ugly American status? This kind of change is not what our country needs!” added the popular talk show host, whose show is syndicated by USA Radio Network.
“Do these revelations demonstrate a pattern of Barack Obama’s judgment? If so, then I do not want him dealing with world leaders. I do not want these groups having access to the White House. Do you?” asks the New Jersey-based political strategist.
Posted by: josef Nagy | April 5, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Actually McCain is a warmonger. He is totally sold out the war in Iraq and seems more than ready to bomb-bomb-Iran.
Posted by: Bob, DC | April 5, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
josef Nagy, I’ll spend as much time reading your cut and paste as you spent writing it.
Thanks.
Posted by: John Samuels | April 5, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Has Obama served in the military? McCain is a true american. Even his son is in Iraq, if asked he would be the first to pull troops back home if it is really feasible.
Posted by: GS | April 5, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Personally I think McCain is a warmonger, but Ed Schultz is a putz. With friends like him who needs enemies.
Posted by: White Mountain Girl | April 5, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I would think McCain would take that as a compliment.
Posted by: Bob, DC | April 5, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
OBAMA SUPPORTERS: Yes, Obama gives lofty speeches about hope and unity. And, Obama can read a teleprompter better than anyone since Ronald Reagan, but his 20 year close relationship with his racist and anti-American “mentor and spiritual adviser,” speaks volumes about his character and judgment. Would you attend a racist church for 20 years and consider its racist minister your “mentor and spiritual adviser?” I know I wouldn’t. If I stepped into a church, the first time the pastor made a derogatory statement about “black people” I would be out of there, never to return. But then again, I’m not a racist.
Posted by: Cowbell | April 5, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
To the members of the DNC: You’ve got a problem when a democrat who hears the charge that McCain is a “war mongerer” wants to leap to McCain’s defense and slap the candidate that “encouraged” that uncalled for label.
Posted by: morningside | April 5, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
John McCain deserves our respect as he is a REAL war hero and to call him such a thing is just mean and ugly.
Yes, McCain supports the war in Iraq. But I don’t think this makes him a warmonger.
I’m voting for Obama, Because he has real vision for our country.
Posted by: youthinkimperfect | April 5, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Josef Nagy…You are so right! I have a done a lot of homework on this fake Obama myself. I read the trial Gavel to Gavel and many, many other articles. If Obama gets away with the political scams he is involved with it would be a miracle for him. Obama is up to his eyeballs in dirty politics. I think he will eventually be indicted also. These things take time. They have plenty on him already. I’m waiting for the other shoe to fall. This is the last person I want to see as President of this country. His friends are muslims. The muslims want him to win. Nice endorsement.
Posted by: carolyn | April 5, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Can you imagine if Obama wins the presidency, and has as a regular visitors his long-time mentor and spiritual advisor, Rev. Wright?
This is great comedy in the making.
Every day that passes I feel more and more convinced that Obama is just another politican.
His advisor says that Obama does not agree with the comment of being a warmonger, and then goes on to say that McCain supports the war in Iraq. Basically, suggestively a way to call him a warmonger without having to use the words. Classic.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NEW POLITICS? If this is the new politics, the old wasn’t so bad.
Posted by: JA | April 5, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Miles,
Nope, not even a Republican.
I have to say this though, Obama is in a way a genius. The man has absolutely no track record and so has nothing on which to criticize him. He avoids taking positions on issues that could have haunted him down the road by voting present, or just not showing up at all. He has done absolutely nothing except plan for his presidency for the last 4 years.
And yet…and yet, it looks like he has a good chance of winning. Whenever pressed on an issue (of which he can never say anything beyond generalities) he changes the subject. When confronted on some other issue, he has his advocates pull the race card for him.
Indeed, it seems the new politics is knowing nothing about running a country, having your associates do your hit jobs for you and then say you don’t agree with them, and do everything possible to discuss talking about REAL issues in depth and in detail. Other than “we need change”, “yes we can” and all that other mantra.
I don’t doubt that there are some genuine Obama backers with REAL reasons for their support of him. (I’d be curious to hear their reasons, other than the propoganda you’ve been fed for the last 6 months). However, it seems to me most of you Obama supporters are seriously mentally troubled. You literally go ballistic when someone signs of inauthenticity are shown of your messiah. Seems to me you’re voting for a messiah, and Obama is certainly a false prophet.
Posted by: JA | April 5, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
No Republican can win in ’08 – McCain is the GOP’s sacrificial lamb. They know that they’ve disgraced themselves and they’re sending McCain out to take one for the team. Everybody knows that only Democrats can clean up the Republican messes.
Posted by: Elliot Jameson | April 5, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Obama said that as president he would bomb Pakistan and Iran preemtively. SO WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL? Does he and his supporters conveniently forget what he said?
Posted by: Starlight | April 5, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Before I ever traveled outside of the US i had the same fear and Ideology an many of you guys “fear of the unknown” fear of the outside world, thinking everyone out there hates us and will like to see us dead, but to the contrary we are well loved out here, but the hatered ahas been growing in the last 7yrs of “BUSHED” this is our chance to redeem ourselves the ones we really need to be afraid of are the ones in washington making bad policies and screwing up the world with their bad sence of judgement. the media those not report this to you guys back in the States. ALL AROUND THE WORLD, WHITE, BLACK,BROWN,ASIAN, ARABS, THEY ALL LOVE OBAMA, and if you dont believe me if you have a friend in Europe or other part of the world pick up the phone and call the and confirm it, if you have a family member serving in the US military posted somewhere around the world pick up the phone and call to confirm. As Americans we owe rest of the world this after we have trampled on it for on if for long.If we continue in this path, soon our allies will turn their backs on us. VOTE FOR CHANGE
Posted by: Justin | April 5, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
“warmonger” wasn’t it obama said let’s “invade Pakistan” the only muslim ally the US has. idiot! Justin, you seems so embrace of the Europeans. maybe you should just stay in Europe. Some of you should check out huffingson website and what kind of people supporting Obama. yep, all the angry people (his closest wife and pastor) who just spread hate.
“INVADE PAKISTAN!!!”
Posted by: hannah | April 5, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Somebody said earlier that McCain is the only candidate who ever actually bombed civilians. I think that’s an important point – I will never vote for McCain for that reason alone. He still has the sins of Vietnam to account for and I will never support someone like that. I am a Christian and I do believe that war is the last resort – not the first choice.
Posted by: Alison_In_Tulsa | April 5, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I do not like either democratic candidate but I will vote for whomever is NOT McCain.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
McCain is a warmonger! In fact I think Bush and Cheney are warmongers too! Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld all started the Iraq war based on lies–PBS frontline did a fantastic report on this (you can see it on you tube). McCain wants to stay the course on a bogus war–IMO that makes him a warmonger. The republicans want this term to be politically incorrect before the general election–But as far as I am concerned they will have to face the music. Over 4,000 young men and women have died in Iraq to give me the freedom to say it loud and clear. These men ARE warmongers.
Posted by: DEQ54 | April 5, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Alison,
You cant blame the military for taking orders, This includes McCain’s service in Vietnam.
I have a lot of respect for John McCain for what he went through while in Vietnam. A real war hero.
What surprises me is that he can support this war after knowing why we are there. Thats where he loses all credibilty with me.
Posted by: youthinkimperfect | April 5, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Alison, McCain is STILL FIGHTING the Vietnam war. Listen to him talk about the Iraq war. He cannot, and I do mean, he is INCAPABLE of making a clear judgement on whether or not our being there is helping or hurting, all he keeps saying is “all the men who have died….” he is damaged good. He sounds like a footsoldier, not a president. YOu know, when you decide to go or to stay it is because of the FUTURE and the PRESENT situation, are you helping, are you a target, did you miss your window of opportunity to do good. You need to be PRAGMATIC about war and when it is a stay or go, and THAT is from General Washington’s play book on war! McCain desire for full glory goes back to the defeat of Vietnam, which mind you ,was supposed to mean the end of the free world as we knew it ,and instead, Vietnam fell it meant……nothing, to our personal safety. nothing. So did all those men die for nothing. I’m sorry, but yes, they did. NOT OUR FAULT!!!!! And it’s not the messenger’s fault for saying so either. When war is a bad idea, i’m sorry, it is. You need to OPEN YOUR EYES and see it in order to SAVE FUTURE TROOPS from dying for just as empty as reason as those who died yesterday. And if you send more to their deaths it still doesn’t make the war anymore necessary. McCain is UNABLE to think like that. He is unfit to lead. He is the MOST unfit to lead, in fact. God help us. We CANNOT Have McCAin. Of ALL the republicans who were options, McCAin was the worste and by God, leave it to the republicans to give us their WORSTE option again!!!
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
All you Americans are warmongers – your nation is addicted to war and you invade countries and start wars that you can’t pay for or win. The whole world is laughing at you and hates you now. We hope you do elect that old war criminal McCain and that he bankrupts you with Bush’s failed war in Iraq. America is the past. China is the future. We will bury you.
Posted by: China_Power | April 5, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
I’m talking about the only ally actively helping with terrorism. taking it out of context? and 100 years is not taking out of context. Obama supporters need to get facts straight about this man before all voting for him blindly on his empty of “change” and “hope”.
Posted by: hannah | April 5, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Anyone who thinks Obama doens’t recognize the good in America has never heard Obama open his mouth. What a silly statement. Listen to Obama for ten seconds and you understand how much good he sees in this country and how much potential we have for continued greatness.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
youthinkimperfect – I’m old enough to remember the Vietnam war and while I was never a hippy or a peacenik, I always believed that it was pointless and immoral. Vietnam never attacked us or did anything to harm us – so why were we bombing their civilians and burning their villages? I don’t respect anyone who “followed orders” that involved bombing civilians like John McCain did. That is simply immoral and that defense didn’t work at Nurenburg and didn’t work in Vietnam, either. McCain should have refused orders to bomb civilians. He is not a hero – he’s a war criminal who already served his time. I have no respect for him. I am a Christian woman and I believe that war is not something to be taking lightly and that there is no such thing as “collateral damage” and that civilian casualties are NEVER acceptable.
Posted by: Alison_In_Tulsa | April 5, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
GOD BLESS AMERICA….if we continue in this part of hatred and war mongering. I still have family in New York but i’m comfortably living here in Europe. Let us continue to allow soundbites from Rev. Wright determine America’s next part in a changing world.I’m now paid in Euro way more than my colleagues are now making in crumbling Dollar….and we are paying attention to fox news and their soundbites and propaganda.GOD BLESS YOU ALL cos’ now I have steped out of the “matrix” our government has been keeping us in, FEAR!!!FEAR!!!!FEAR!!! wake up people and make the right choice for the future.
Posted by: Justin | April 5, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
ALL you will get from McCain is war. We will be able to afford NOTHING else! He will BROADEN the war, and our infrastructure will contiue to crumble, all our programs will go unfunded, gas will go higher, prices will soar, the debt will go higher, the dollar will fall, everything will get more expensive and he will not STOP! NOTHING WIll stop McCain from throwing EVERYTHING into war because that is ALL he cares about. He is fighthing ghosts from his past and nothing else matters. He will tank this economy once and for all aned he will do it shamelessly. ALL you can bet on with McCain is war. I promise you that! McCain is a war monger! He is a post traumatic stress damanged goods war monger.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
If you love America do NOT vote for McCain. He will end us. Promise you that. what presidential candidate in his right mind would EVER Say the words Iraq war and 100 years in the same sentence in ANY context?????? This country WILL FALL COMPLETELY< the economic collapse will be complete with McCAin. HE will stop at nothing to continue war. he has TOLD US SO!!! McCAin is a dangerous dangerous man. I will vote for whomever is NOT MCCAIN!!! If you love this country, you will too.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Obama should change his church. Now that’s change that I can believe in.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Don’t keep saying about Hillary’s snipper.
What about Obama lied about:
-The ad, he never take money from oil company, infact he did .
-Handgun control
-His father came to US by Kennedy’s fund.
-He did not know about Rev Wright’s speeches.
-Unrelated to Rezko
Etc,,,etc,,
Posted by: crisis08 | April 5, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
China has their faults too. the trick is to elect a president who is intelligent enough to know them. McCain only knows that he wants to contginue the war and expand it. ALL mccain cares about is war. I trust our economy and our domestic policy, and the war, in fact, with either Clinton or Obama more. I will vote for whomever is NOT McCAin.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
looks like you haven’t heard that Obama plans on staying in Iraq for a number of years, if he’s elected. I guess he’s a war monger too.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
China_Power: The Chinese are a great people and I would have a hard time holding them responsible for all the actions of their tyrannical government.That being said, what the Chinese are doing to Tibet and it’s peaceful Buddhist citizens leaves the Chinese as the last people on earth to lecture others on evil.
Posted by: sitting1 | April 5, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Can you be a POW for 5 1/2 years tortured beyond anything you can ever imagine and years later have flash backs? Could going through something as terrible as John McCain has gone through ever be erased from ones memory?
Posted by: youthinkimperfect | April 5, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
I DON’T CARE WHAT DEMOCRAT GETS THE NOMINATION – I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE! BUSH AND THE GOP HAVE DESTORYED THIS COUNTRY AND THEY NEED TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE! THEY SIMPLY DO NOT DESERVE TO RUN THE COUNTRY EVER AGAIN! GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Posted by: Old_Marine | April 5, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
smart Karen- Turkey helped us so much that they wanted to invade northern Iraq. let me know if this fact is not straight either. you’re beautifully smart. and CHINA-POWER – millions of chinese in china may not be as smart as you chinese communists in Beijing but they are your own people so start treating like your own people.
Posted by: hannah | April 5, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
And Obama says invade Pakistan on our own..now who’s the “warmonger” and who’s the idiot?..Obama wins both
Posted by: Mark | April 5, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
sitting1 – So what are you gonna do about it? Tibet belongs to China and there is nothing you Americans can do. If we Chinese want to take back Taiwan, we could do it tomorrow and you weak Americans couldn’t do anything to stop us there either. Why don’t you go cry to the Native Americans about Tibet and see what they think? Stupid American hypocrites always want to tell everyone else what to do like their sh*t doesn’t stink!
Posted by: China_Power | April 5, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Obama as our CIC scares me, its scares a lot of folks. GO MAC 2008!
Posted by: Mark | April 5, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Mark – I think you took that out of context. Obama didn’t call to invade and occupy Pakistan, like we did in Afghanistan and Iraq. He was calling for cross-border incursions from Afghanistan to root out Al Queda and Taliban bases in the tribal areas of Western Pakistan. Please keep your facts straight.
Posted by: Karen R. | April 5, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Obama saying Pakistan i s a problem shows us SOME FOCUS consider that OBL is IN PAKISTAN and while McCain wants to invade IRAN who has NOTHING TO DO with anything that threatens us, Obama actually REMEMBERS THAT AQ IS IN PAKISTAN AND THAT OH YEAH, IT WAS AQ THAT ATTACKED US!!!! Gee, score one for Obama, thank you very much.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
McCAin wants to broaden the war in iraq to invade Iran. This post traumatic stress syndrome flashback insane war wounded doesn’t even have enough brains to expand hte war into territory where AQ actually is!!!! You don’t get much more sad and inefficient than that!!!! Dear Lord, leave it to the republicans to hand us their VERY WORSE candidate they had! Go Obama.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
China_Power: That speech may go over well in the Chinese Communist Politburo, but you’re wasting your time here. All dictatorships fall of their own weight and China will be no different. America knows that it is not perfect and we get a chance to change those imperfections every four years. The Chinese have no such choice and that is why among other things they breathe the most polluted air on this planet.
Posted by: sitting1 | April 5, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
I also heard what Obama said and he said would would offer to aid in boarder excursions where AQ was across the Pakistani boarder and musharrif surely would not mind if we got AQ because they would like to kill him as well. Obama is intelligent and on par with reality. McCain IS insane. McCAin IS dangerous.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
sitting – “all dictatorships fall”? You don’t know much about history, do you? That’s just a fairy tale Americans tell themselves to feel better. Dictatorships thrive all over the world. Just look at your dictator Geogre Bush. Hahahaha! But don’t worry, China is a Socialist Republic, not a dictatorship.
Posted by: China_Power | April 5, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I don’t believe that Musharif was too happy with Obama’s statement. I think he should just stick to speeches.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I personally think the election is over. Clinton is over, Obama is so very intelligent, he is such a good speaker, and McCain is just insane and any debate the difference between the two will be so striking. Nobody cares what a pastor says. Mine says premarital sex is wrong, don’t use the pill even if you’re married and that we can’t take communion if we’re prochoice Yeah right. Whatever. Nobody listens to the extreme things their pastors says. you roll your eyes, think whatever an wait for the hyms to start. Nobody cares about a pastor who is not running for office. just listen to obama for ten seconds you forget all about him. You can’t run away from the fact that is McCAIN running against OBAMA and mcCain IS insane. The more he talks, the more it shows. Time and exposure are on our side. McCain will not be president. I promise you.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Mack – perhaps you don’t understand the dynamic between the Pashtun population of Pakistan’s tribal areas and the Urdu-speaking Pakistani majority who controls the country’s military (and nuclear weapons)? Right now the Pakistani army is seen as an occupying force in the tribal areas and the Pashtuns are taking Urdu government soldiers hostage regularly. I seriously doubt that the Pakistani military would resort to nuclear weapons against American or NATO troops over a cross-border incursion from Afghanistan against Pashtun Al QUeda and Taliban sympathizers who are destabilizing BOTH countries. It seems to me that you don’t understand the region very well.
Posted by: Karen R. | April 5, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I think Musharrif would LOVE to see OBL’s head on a platter. Did you get a gander at what happened to the prime minister???? AQ got her. they want Musharif. He knows that. He’s LOVE For us to take them out. I dind’t hear him condemn or even mention an ounce of concern at what Obama said. I’m sure he’d LOVE Someone who hasn’t forgotton about him unlike Bush and unlike McCAin. McCain thinks AQ is in Iran. How od you think Musharrif feels about that. I have a guess “oh dear God, another insane American president who will be ZERO help in getting AQ!”
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
The problem is that he belongs to a black separatist church. That may be fine for progressives and black voters, but “values voters” will back McCain 100%. Belonging to a black separatist church is just as repulsive as belonging to a white separatist group. There should not be a double standard.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Obama scares the hell out of me he is so radical and hypocritical, but I’m gay and I like his purple lips and cute ears, so I’ll vote for him anyway.
Posted by: miles1967 | April 5, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
You think if Musharif was fine with it, Bush wouldn’t have already done it? Everyone is just waiting for Obama to be elected so that he can get Osama.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Mack – actually, check the polls. Obama’s church scandal didn’t make a dent in his numbers. I think most people are much more outraged at the GOP and McCain’s refusal to distance himself from Bush’s failed policies than they are about Obama’s church. I think that “values voters” are overrated. Most of them are going to sit this one out in disgust.
Posted by: Bill McKibben | April 5, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
I believe that’s what everyone was saying in 2004. Someone voted for Bush.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Bush would probably give his right arm to get Osama. That would just add to his trophy collection along with Sadaam.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
I can’t say that I’ve ever voted for an Evangelical, nor would I ever, although I can say that I voted against a black separatist.
Posted by: Mack | April 5, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
“Democrats are just communists “…..uuhh, do keep up. It was your very republican president who just socialized the losses of Bearns and the rest of the mortgage brokers. Seems when it comes to republicans they only want a free market so long aS their businesses are making money a nd do not want to be taxed. But as soon as they have huge losses, all of a sudden, it’s time to socialize them. think about it. I don’t see anyone asking to socialize the gas companies huge record profits. no no. let us pay for that. but have a some huge mortgage companies go belly up,well now, we must social that. Time to tax you and meto bail them out but do not THINK of taxing record profits on oil companies….think about it.
Posted by: jessboston | April 5, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Is this commentator’s remark any different than the barrage of right wing commentator’s remarks over the last 8 years?
Posted by: David in Denvoid | April 5, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
karen – was it only Bush invaded iraq?? without majority of votes (republicans and democrats) do you think he was able to make the call??
Obama is a liar -
1. i’m barack obama and i don’t take money from oil company (he looked straight at the camera and tell you this)
2. i wasn’t at the pews when the pastor spewed hate
3. i’m not like other politician
4. i will pull troops out of iraq (hear the truth from his advisor)
5. i will renegotiate with nafta (only for political purpose)
6. i’ll quit the church had wright not retired
7. kennedy airlifted my father and give him scholarship
8. i was born poor so i can share your experience except i attended wealthy school in hawaii and indonesia, harvard and ivy-league schools.
9. Rezko donated $150,000 no actually $250,000. never asked for favor. (wow, i hope i have more friends like that just give me a quarter million bucks and don’t ask for a thing)
10. wright’s words are just comparable to my typical white person grandma
11. i will raise tax on the rich, whom make $30,000 or more.
12. i voted against the iraq war when i wasn’t even in the senate.
“INVADE PAKISTAN”
Posted by: hannah | April 6, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
How come we forgot Rev Wright?
Obama listened to this whackjob for 20 years!!!LOL
Yesterday Newt Gingrich said to use Rev. wright against Obama at GE campaign is a fair deal!
Posted by: ALLEYA | April 6, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
I consider ‘lack of judgment’ a legit reason. I don’t agree, but at least its not just blatant name-calling.+++++++++++++lack judgment is not about name calling,it is about not being smart enough to make the right call even though you know the consequences of your actions,,,,,,,,,,,,that is poor judgment it is like you commit a crime, yet hoping you don’t get caught, poor judgment, sending your kids out to store in a blizzard , poor judgment, understand,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
backoffnewscensors
Uh, I agree. Lack of Judgement is not name calling, its a legit reason, thats what I said.
All 3 candidates have shown a lack of judgement in one area or another.
Posted by: truth-2-power | April 6, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Obama and his war vote cracks me up,the fact that he was not there,and then said if he had of been there , he might have voted for it,{{if he could have found the right button} and then after he was there he voted not to with drawn troops, flip=flop====then after he started running for president he starting saying he want to with drawn troops,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
hannah
Duly noted, but I thought anti-American pretty much covered it.
Are their any actual policy issues you disagree with him on?
Posted by: truth-2-power | April 6, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
I guess you missed McCain singing
Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.
Sounds like a warmonger to me.
If an Iranian leader said that you would be ready to bomb Iran.
Do you really want a President that would sing Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.
Can’t wait till the ad runs this September.
All of this is nonsense.
The election comes down to this.
If you voted for, supported, or thought the Iraq war was a good idea you can not and should not be President.
The rest is BS.
Posted by: Langx | April 6, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
How could really know what his policy issues are if you follow his speeches they change with every state,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
supported, or thought the Iraq war was a good idea ___________Obama has supported the war with every vote, plus he voted keep the troops over there and not to bring them home, he has voted on every bill in favor of the war since he has been in the senate,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
I really hope camp Obama backs away from the apology to McCain. Because calling McCain a warmonger isn’t universally considered factually inaccurate, unlike the implication that Barack was a ‘muslim’ when in fact he is Christian.
Isn’t McCain actually trying to bully and shame Obama into accepting McCain’s romanticized interpretation of war? Isn’t that what’s really going on here? This is a legitimate political issue, and I don’t see any other point to having us all avoid usage of the term ‘warmonger’ when so many of us in fact see McCain as one who ‘a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war’.
I think it makes camp Obama look wimpy to be saying ‘so sorry, you’re not a warmonger’. Also is it true McCain’s camp wants Barack to disavow Ed Schultz? Screw that! He’s one of the best surrogates Barack has . . . what an over the top demand . . . outrageous!
Posted by: SamTheCat | April 6, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Langx ++++++++++++++++No don’t have to make anything up, I just read the news, instead of believing what comes out of their mouth, I kinda like what they said and did before they ran for president, cause they really lie big after they start running for president,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
hannah
So your for Universal Health Care and against Tax increases?
I’d hate to burst your bubble but…
Posted by: truth-2-power | April 6, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
truth – nooo, i’m definitely not for universal health care and especially tax increase. I don’t want goverment involve because they’re extremely inefficient. I am against Obama for trying to put his finger’s in every pie if he’s president. that’s another real issue.
My list will keep getting longer. backoffnewscensors, i got more from you tonight that will be added to my list
Posted by: hannah | April 6, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Look at current polling matching up McCain with the Dem candidates. Then look at the electoral maps for the last 10 elections.
Barring a HUGE October scandal, the 2004 blue states are likely to stay blue no matter who wins.
Add in Iowa (where Obama put up the best show of any candidate), Nevada and New Mexico (polls say all 3 are solid blue thus far) and the Dems have 269 of 270 electoral votes needed to win.
I think it’s a safe bet that EITHER of the Dem candidates can pick up at least 1 more electoral vote- so the “electability” argument is pretty much moot.
FYI, polls are currently showing the following states as toss-ups: ND, NE, CO, KS, VA, SC, FL, and AK.
Posted by: FutureK | April 6, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
I don’t like the health care deal at all,but his really got me. he said on tv,that he would make it mandatory for people with children to have it,People with children are the ones that really can’t afford it,he is going to fine,maybe put in jail,those people, ok lets say, a couple has two kids, they make around 2000 a month, rent is around 600, a month, lights around 150, heating around 100, food around 150, so tell what it is these parent are suppose to stop paying in order to pay for insurances? should they stop feeding the kids, housing the kids, are maybe live in the dark, and he went so far as to say, any parents of children that do not provide insurance for their kids are bad parents, I did not care much for him before that statement and even less after, I knew right then he has never been poor, he has no clue as to what is going in the real world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
He says its universal because it covers every child in America. Children cannot chose their irresposible parents.
However, under the Obama plan, every adult has a choice. If you are happy with what your employer is offering you, stick with them. If not, you can choose the ‘universal’ program.
Freedom to choose, ensures competition between the private and public systems. The consumer wins.
Hillarycare and John Edwards want every American to sign into a mandatory government program and tax you for it.
Posted by: truth-2-power | April 6, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Look at current polling matching up McCain with the Dem candidates. Then look at the electoral maps for the last 10 elections.+++++++++++++to find really good laugh go to the bottom of the page where you find these and read how many they polled,it is a joke, they have no clue,how the people are going to vote,,,,,,,,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Persio – Learn to know PRESIDENT OBAMA FACTS. You are acting as if you just landed on this earth. You’re tripping just like Hillary who’s very good at telling strange lies and has been hallucinating almost daily. She just TRIPPED again with another lies about some woman who was turned away from some Hospital.
Posted by: Che-3 | April 6, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
backoffnewscensors
So much name-calling, so few facts.
Let me ask you this, do you think all children should be covered?
(P.S. God watches over children and fools, not kids and idiots)
Posted by: truth-2-power | April 6, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
I am glad in my house I am the parent, and my kids don’t come home and tell me who i should and should not support for president, In fact it is the other around, I tell them who they vote for,,,,,,,,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
me and my adult children are going to sat this one out, we would have voted for hilliary but the powers that steal decided to shove Obama down our throats, and unless McCain can pick a really good running nate there is not other choice, McCain or nothing, I think we will more than likely not vote, Unless I think it will keep Obama out of the white house then we will vote for McCain,,,,,,
Posted by: backoffnewscensors | April 6, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
They value being educated by their biased self serving churches which is a reciept for ignorance. The reason we do not have a direct democracy is because the founding fathers did not trust the average person to handle creating rational and logical laws. So the average person votes for a smart representative to serve them in the congress…but the average american doesnt even vote! But since 81% of Americans are unhappy that means that 70% will vote…I garauntee that they wont be voting for McBush or another Clinton dynasty…So I see Obama 65% Nader 20% and McBush 15%. People have to know by now that Republicans are greedy self serving folks that are better at running corporations then the government….They need to stick to that.
Posted by: Beka | April 6, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Obama shouldn’t apologize to McCain until McCain apologizes for his vote to go to war against Iraq.
Posted by: SamTheCat | April 6, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Joseph Nagy comments he wrote on here raises a good question. Should all the politicians be judge by people they know or worked with or went to church with? If so, let’s not forget the Keating five whom John McCain so closely associated himself with that it almost landed him in jail and probably should have.
Let’s not forget his president George Bush Jr who he’s thick as theives with and supported Georges lie to go to war.
Howabout the shady people the Clinton’s associated with and I am not even going to begin to name the scandals they have associated themselves with.
My point is that if you are setting this kind of criteria, then Obama looks darn good when compaired to his opponents. So keep on raises the association questions, because the Obama camp can have a field day compairing himself to the other two.
Posted by: Roderick P | April 6, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am
When it all comes down to it, this is almost ironic. A supporter of Senator Obama calls someone “warmongering.” Be careful what you mean. As noted, Dictionary.com cites it as “noun- the practices and principles of a warmonger.” Leading to “n. One who advocates or attempts to stir up war,” also on Dictionary.com. Does approval for war really mean that you want it to happen? I look at the events up to the beginning of WWII and think about wanting it to happen. No matter what many people wanted to happen war became a reality, and something that became one of the most important, and I argue just, causes in the past hundred years. I think a lot of people, including those who choose to not like war, realize that it will happen and understand what it means when it happens, though it is not as cut and dried as it sounds. Are you willing to look your best friend, including your spouse, in the eye and tell them you have committed them to something to which they might die? Ask yourself that question, and I ask you to not shrink away. Can you watch someone you care about go to a hostile area where they might die? If you cannot, then ask someone who has been there in person and knows what the consequences are. This is not an endorsement of Senator McCain. This is a call for all of the candidates for the President of these United States to address an issue that all must know. The United States is a power in the World and it cannot be abused as a “we make what we want” type of entity. I believe strongly in the United States that we have built for over two-hundred years. I fear a day when the people stop asking why and go along with the people in charge say. Then, it will look like a period before WWII when the military of Japan was in control and not the Emperor, who at the end of WWII saw the reality better than those around him. I can guarantee that military control will not happen today, because the stance of elected leaders is understood as law and, while questioned at a personal level, will be complied with because no matter what members of the military think the decision to go to war is not theirs. The elected leaders are the representatives of the people and that is how the United States is preserved. Sometimes you have to look at what is going on and not necessarily whether or not it is “unjust.” No matter what happens, WE must take responsibility. If you cannot take that responsibility then you cannot tell other people what they should do. If you cannot tell one of your best friends to die for the good of others, think about what you say. I accept that responsibility. I know what it really means. Make sure you do. Are you willing to die when the elected President of the United States tells you to do so? The strength of this Nation comes from the people within. If we cannot take responsibility (without being exploited) we are losing what we have. We have a freedom that I will admit, I take for granted. I can tell you this, because of what we are. We are The United States. It is my home, and I want it to be here forever. The place where the “average” citizen can make a difference is at the polls. Be there. Make a difference, make a decision and understand why. I believe in you as representatives of the United States. Make me proud.
Posted by: thequietd | April 6, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
With all these comments aside, and without any reference to differences in the candidates, Mr McCain seems like a statesman while Ms Clinton and Mr Obama seem like they are competing on American Idol.
Posted by: briylaln | April 6, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
Obama campaign can not run on it’s own merits. His platform is weak and he is less knowlegeable than the others.
Obama has to spend his time discrediting others to try to make himself look better.
He misleads the people. lies to make others look bad. He always fails to give all the facts, or present them in correct contents.
McCain is not a war monger.
He did say “we could be in iraq for 100 yesrs” he meant what he said. We can be.
When you have an active part in assisting in rebuiling a country your prescense is needed.
Obama has twisted a statement, and mislead the american people trying to
make it something else. On purpose in a feeble attempt to discredit McCain.
Obama has run the dirtiest, muds linging campaign than anyone.
While a United States Senator, Mr Obama
did not care about you, the government or much else. The place in government where he could of helped you the most, changed goverment, and made a mark. He did next to nothing.
When he did show up, He voted present on most bills, Just being their an taking a pay check. Not fighting for you or me or changes in the government.
With his History and actions and facts. What makes you think he will start caring now? That he will actually fight or cares about you? because he said so in a speech?
Obama can give a speech, His mind manipulating, brainwashing effect, have moved many. That does not mean he cares or is going to do anything for you. Does show he can talk you into just about anything. (time to wake up)
Your need more than words to be a President.
You need someone you can trust – Can you trust someone who lies on their family and friends?
You need someone who can be honest – Can you think of honesty when they take money from crooks, have a crook buy their house. A friend who once bombed washington DC, A friend who God damns you country. A personal relationship with these people for 18 -20 years.
You need someone who can take responsibilty for themselves. Not like obama who blames everyone else for everything constantly.
Obama is a speech, and like other Great Speeches, they should go in the audio section of the library, Not the white house.
Posted by: seah | April 6, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
McCain showed what a good, honest, decent person he is by IMMEDIATELY saying something about the person calling O’Bama by his middle name. O’Bama is a typical politician. Whatever will help his campaign is what is important. Vote McCain!
Posted by: M. Sumler | April 6, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
I thought the Clintons were the world champions of having surrogates sling mud while they tried to remain above it all but Obama has raised this kind of deceit to an art form. While he waves his hands and assures any particular audience that he is the answer to all their problems, he carves out a changing position that abandons his followers in favor of less change-minded voters.
Originally, he said he’d be out of Iraq by early April 2008. Then, he advocated leaving an unspecified number of troops there for an unspecified period of time. Now, he won’t make any decisions until he’s president and talks to the generals.
He now has shifted to gun rights — away from earlier gun control. Why, to appease the conservatives. Has anybody noticed? Are his follows caught up in charisma and oblivious to issues?
There are other issues that he’s slowly creeping away from. Again, abandoning his followers as he goes.
Obama followers: You’re being had!
Posted by: S | April 6, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
With the lies Hillary has been telling latley, someone close to her knows all the dirt she has been covering up! Its Time you come forward and fill America in!
Posted by: Patriot | April 6, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
What’s the controversy? John McCain IS a warmonger. I mean the guy has literally dropped bombs on civilians in Vietnam. What more is there to say? People have to stop being such a bunch of PC crybabies…
Posted by: Clyde | April 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
I’ll take Obama OR Hillary over McClown anyday of the week. I will never vote for another Republican again for as long as I live. Bush and the GOP have absolutely disgraced themselves over the last 8 years. They simply do not deserve to run the country ever again.
Posted by: RudeBwai | April 6, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
As a European, I want to tell you that all of Euopre wants to see Americans pick the right candidate to help your country fix its problems at home and that you’ve created around the world. We do not think that McCain is the man to do this – his policies and politics are a mirror of the failed policies and politics of George W. Bush. His way has not worked and McCain will only prolong the failure. We Europeans want to see America return to sanity and reason, not retreat into irrationality and ideological failure.
Posted by: Rijk_VS | April 6, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Al Gore. This Nation does not want to re-live the tragedy we endured when you won the popular vote yet are not the President. It appears Hillary will win the popular vote. Please intervene with the party to ensure Hillary becomes the nominee. If not, the party will be split irreparably. Thanks, Big Al.
Posted by: benvictor | April 6, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
They can’t find anything to attack Obama about directly, so it’s always people around him! Now, McCain is trying to work everyone up over some guy who warmed up the crowd at an Obama rally. McCain is beginning to look almost as ridiculous and desperate as Hillary. Too funny!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 6, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
McCain is a warmonger. He brags about staying in Iraq for 100 years and laughs and sings about “bomb bombing Iran”.
Posted by: Bob, DC | April 6, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Big Al. We were crushed when you won the popular vote and did not become the President. If Hillary wins the popular vote as expected, I implore you to intervene for the good of the party. Should Hillary not become the nominee, I can assure you this will remind us of 2000. The difference this time will be democrats screwing democrats. Thanks Big Al.
Posted by: benvictor | April 6, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
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The other night I was watching a Martin Luther King documentary where they played his sermons & I noticed Dr. King said some of the very same things that Rev Wright said.They were showing how the media was portaying him at the time as a black militant & anti-american. He said “Why should we send black men go over to Vietnam to fight for others freedoms when they have none at home”.To most back in that time that seemed very unpatriotic & Hoover used race baiting tactics to blast Dr. King on national tv.Now MLK is a national hero.What a shame the same race baiting tactic is being used to smear Obama in 2008.My point is just because something is foreign & seems unpatrotic to you isn’t always just that.There’s a different perspective that you may not understand, but you have to at least be sensitive to.I really feel Obama is carrying the same burden.
Posted by: LogicalAA | April 6, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
People are saying that Obama’s color has nothing to do with why they would cross party lines to vote for McCain if Obama won the dem nod.What other reason would someone vote for a person who doesn’t care about 100 years of war.I would vote for Mickey Mouse other than someone who would authorize 100 years of war.These are probably the same smart peolple who elected Bush. There’s even some bloggers accusing Obama of being the antichrist.Now it doesn’t take a genious to figure out the most potential of antichrist lies in the war-monger.
Posted by: LogicalAA | April 6, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Ok we have a choice of Hillary(Monica Lewinsky, Norman Hsu,Nafta, Paula Jones,Failed Health Care)or we have a choice of McBush(Lobbyist ties, 100 years of war, senile confusion of countries & extremists,embracement of Bush Policies).Both of which approved this war which is pulling us into recession. No thanks, I’ll take the guy with the bad pastor!!!
Posted by: LogicalAA | April 6, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I’d rather vote for Hamas then Hillary Two Face Lying Clinton!
Hang it up anti Obama idiots! The choices have never been more clearer!
MCCAIN = 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH!
CLINTON = 4 MORE YEARS OF CLINTON LIES AND SCANDALS!
OBAMA = REAL CHANGE! REAL HOPE!
YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jim Kiricov | April 6, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
I am black and won’t vote for Obama in NC! I don’t trust him, he does not have the black values at all!
Posted by: Patty, NC | April 6, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
I am a McCain supporter. McCain is calling for respectful campaigning. He took responsibility immediately when the talk show host did his “Barack Hussein Obama” introduction, back in February. He is simply asking that labels not be applied to each other in this race for president. “Warmonger” may be applied correctly according to an interpretation by Webster, just as Hussein is truly Obama’s middle name, but we all know what the INTENT is. So Eddie, if you can stop snarling for a second, I am also not supporting Obama, and if I had a choice between Clinton and Obama, I wouldn’t hesitate for one second to support Hilalry.
Posted by: Tracy Lynn | April 6, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Would someone please comment on Obama’s credentials to be president. His resume is a blank page, so his cronies resort to name calling to cover up his lack of everything especially, ethics, honesty, and patriotism. Saw on CBS that he his considering “swiftboat” Kerry as his running mate.
Posted by: Russ | April 6, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
I would say that this is an accurate characterization. McCain’s belligerence towards Iran after our debacle in Iraq only underscores this title for himself.
Posted by: antenian | April 6, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Who cares about who didn’t want to go to war. We’re in the war now so the question is, “What now”. Obama’s opinion has definitely changed as of late. First, he’d have all the troops out THIS MONTH. Then, he said he’d live an unspecified number of troops in for an unspecified period of time. Now, he says he’d hold off any judgment until he talked to his generals.
Obama is clearly abandoning his constituency as time move on and it becomes safer to do so. Sadly, his followers don’t seem to recognize the fact that they’re being abandoned.
Hillary has no answers and doesn’t seem to understand the question. What now democrats? An empty suit or a bag of hot air.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
hey karen… you should be on TV since you already know what the election results are .. thats a real informed decision there… over confidence always loses
Posted by: Phillydemocrat | April 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
You know the more the crazed Obama-haters try to equate his candidacy with terrorism, the more I want to vote for him. I think that rightwing fearmongering is going to backfire on them bigtime in this election. These wingnuts are tired, intellectually bankrupt and have no new ideas to offer – even their taunts are secondhand and exhausted. They need to get a new script because the rest of us decent, reasonable people just laugh at their ridicuous fearmongering now. Good luck!
Posted by: Bill McKibben | April 6, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Judge Obama by the company he keeps..Reverend Wright, the Weather Underground, Indicted friends, Farrakan..
Do you want this man to be your President?
Posted by: Antonn | April 6, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
KarenR… I am a real democrat have been all my life… electing a president is loyalty to your country not a party… we are the party and we set the agenda an if we don’t like what we see than we reject it… some things are more important than partisan politics
Posted by: Phillydemocrat | April 6, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Surelock Homes – all politicains lie. So what? McCain is a liar, too. Now that we’ve got that out of the way, let’s vote based on policies, not stupid “gotcha” politics.
Posted by: Bill McKibben | April 6, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Um, what’s the big deal? McCain IS a warmonger. The guy loves war and the military. Why is that wrong to say? He admits it himself. We are getting waay too PC in this country.
Posted by: Dr.Rockso | April 6, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Obama is a GREAT liar.
Hillary is a GREAT liar.
Now what Bill?
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 6, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Again, so what? McCain is a GREAT liar, too. All politicains are. Even George Washington was a liar. That can be an asset in a leader – do you really want a President who’s incapable of bluffing our enemies? You need to grow up and stop playing “gotcha” politcs or else we’ll have no leaders left!
Posted by: Bill McKibben | April 6, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I suppose that he didn’t hear this one ???? Just what does Obama hear? McCain does support the war, but he’s a Republican; what do you expect ? Although in Viet Nam, it was the Democrats running the mess……Bobby Kennedy said it “There is enough blame to go around…”
Obama did not vote against the war because he wasn’t in the Senate at the time. He probably would have voted “Present.”
Posted by: KC+1971 As B | April 6, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Surelock Homes – So you think Bush was some kind of great truth teller? You need to grow up and live in the real world. All polticians lie – it’s what makes them politicians. I agree with Bill McKibbon – judge a candidate by his policies.
Posted by: Karen R. | April 6, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I won’t vote for McCain because he’s the one candidate who actually dropped bombs on living human beings – and civilians at that! I am a Christian woman and I believe that McCain is a war criminal, not a “hero”. He only knows war and war has been a disaster for us since Bush took power.
Posted by: Alison_In_Tulsa | April 6, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Bill, Karen:
So, it comes down to ‘my liar is better than your liar’. You two live in a scary world where lying doesn’t help determine a person’s character. Merely asserting that all politicians lie and therefore, lying isn’t important is really frightening. Character is important and differences in character should be a measure of a person’s true self.
There’s more than enough proof that Clinton and Obama are FREQUENT and PERSISTENT liars. Try to put McCain in that same box with something besides assertions.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 6, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Surelock Homes – Two Words: Keating Five. McCain is a THIEF. Some “character”. See how easy it is to tear a leader down?
Posted by: Karen R. | April 6, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Good point Karen – not only is McCain a warmonger, he’s been proven to be corrupt and caught stealing the public’s money during the Keating 5 scandal. Sorry, but I won’t vote for a thief AND a war criminal!
Posted by: Evelyn DeAngiolini | April 6, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
So how is McCain NOT a warmonger? Seriously? The guy is a combat vet who dropped bombs on North Vietnam, who loves the miltary, and who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. He comes from generations of military men and his family has always supported itself through war – and his son is continuing the tradition. If that’s not a “warmonger” – what is? Seriously? This is so absurd!
Posted by: Rachel M. | April 6, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
McCain lied about Iraqi WMDs. He is a liar, too.
Posted by: Paul Rickson | April 6, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
todd – not “anyone who served in combat” – just those who once personally dropped bombs on civilians like John McCain did when he bombed Hanoi and other targets in North Vietnam. I think this is a valid point that needs to be addressed. I cannot justify voting for a man who once bombed civilians now matter how much the media proclaims him a “hero”.
Posted by: David Garzon | April 6, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
OK David, by your definition, all those who served in the 8th Air Force over Europe, during WWII, Eisenhower, FDR, the B-29 crews who flew over Japan, the Union Army during the Civil War are all warmongers? What’s the evidence that McCain purposely bombed civilians BTW? In your opinion, should we consider BHO a pacifist?
Posted by: todd | April 6, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Obama is a fraud. Martin Luther King, under daily death threats, courageously FOUGHT racism, poverty and the Viet Nam war, while all Obama does is give us hectoring speeches. He votes to fund the war, talks about racial equality only to deflect attention from his lies about Rev Wright`s harangues and couldn`t even be bothered to vote on the eco stim pkg, let alone fight to include the poor in the give away.
Posted by: luke | April 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
McCain – a person who advocates war or warlike policies. syn. warmonger
Posted by: Jack | April 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
McCain a warmonger? Next they’ll tell me the sun rises in the east, water is wet, and sugar is sweet!
Posted by: Terex | April 6, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I would trust Hillary as Commander in Chief more than the FRESHMAN Senator Obama. But I would trust McCain more than Hillary as Commander In Chief.
Posted by: Marky | April 6, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
It figures, Obama has no decency and we all know this. If, he wins the nomination, he will never beat McCain….especially now that McCain is considering either Colin Powell or Condi Rice as a running mate. Obama, its over, buddy….give it up. All the Obamaniacs that have been misled by this “Pied Piper”, he has the Kool aid ready.
Posted by: david | April 7, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
McCain is in fact a warmonger. You will all know that if he get elected
Posted by: leche | April 7, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
LUKE; Obama is a fraud. Martin Luther King, under daily death threats, courageously FOUGHT racism, poverty and the Viet Nam war, while all Obama does is give us hectoring speeches. He votes to fund the war, talks about racial equality only to deflect attention from his lies about Rev Wright`s harangues and couldn`t even be bothered to vote on the eco stim pkg, let alone fight to include the poor in the give away.
Then Elect him and see. I garanty you that you will see a decent man.
Posted by: leche | April 7, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
OBAMA WOULDN’T RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH IF IT SLAPPED HIM IN THE FACE. HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN RUN ON LIES!
HE HAS SPENT 20 YEARS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ANTI-AMERICAN RADICAL WHO HATES AMERICA!
BE CAREFUL WHO YOU VOTE FOR.
Posted by: CONCERNED | April 7, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Ed Schultz continues the McCain is a warmonger battle cry
Over the weekend, Barack Obama found his campaign in a bit of hot water after it was reported that liberal talk show host Ed Schultz called John McCain a warmonger in an intro he did for the junior Senator from Illinois at a fundraiser fo…
Posted by: Sister Toldjah | April 7, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
I’m in love with Obama, I love his purple lips and cute ears. I bought a t-shirt and poster. That’s why I need him to win.
Posted by: SamTheCat | April 7, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Oh you Americans can`t see past your own
noses. All you care about is who says what about who. Why can`t you just shut up long enough to really hear what the
politicians are saying insyead of fighting amongst yoursevles. You should really get off your high hoarses and listen just for once . I think it1s about time you guys had a biracial
leader.
Posted by: Mrs.Relic | April 7, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I just love the hawkish foolish comments i read, how some mcbush supporters think diplomacy with iran, russia and other nations we are at odds with is weak and foolish,these prowar dupes believe that a war solution is the best solution. is a war with russia a good idea??? do you hawks think the war would be centralized overseas that our cities and towns would,nt be targeted and destroyed!! # 1 clue for you warhawks diplomacy first is the best option A vote for one who all too often talks about war and bomb bomb iran! IS NOT THE CORRECT CHOICE FOR P.O.T.U.S.!VOTE WISELY!
Posted by: PAULY IN CHI TOWN | September 19, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm