Bill Clinton: No ‘Whining’ from Hillary
ABC News’ Sarah Amos Reports: Former President Bill Clinton says he didn’t see his wife "whining" when she’s taken some tough political shots on the presidential campaign trail.
"When I watched that debate last night, I got kinda tickled," the former President said at an American Legion Hall event in St. Mary’s, Pennsylvania, "After the [debate], her opponents’, oh, the people working were saying, ‘Oh this is so negative, why are they doing this.’ Well they’ve been beatin’ up on her for 15 months. I didn’t hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab."
"And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don’t want to play, keep your uniform off," Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
Clinton asserted the focus on the campaign has largely been on the issues.
"The truth is," Clinton said, "this has been basically positive campaign on the issues, and on the records and on the experience. And the real differences should be on the issues."
Clinton was in high spirits on Thursday morning, the day after Sens. Clinton and Obama met for the 22nd time on a debate stage.
"I don’t know if you saw that debate last night, but I did, and I thought she was great. She was great because she showed the strength and leadership and knowledge of the issues that is very important to the next president," Clinton effused to his first crowd of the day in Erie, Pennsylvania.
Obama, meanwhile, tried to brush off any criticism that his debate performance was below par.
During a town hall in Raleigh, Obama said his Democratic nomination rival "looked in her element" in Philadelphia.
"She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there, that’s her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit," Obama said.
"That’s how our politics has been taught to be played. That’s the lesson that she learned when the Republicans were doing that same thing to her back in the 1990s, so I understand it, and when you’re running for the presidency then you’ve got to expect it."
Obama then paused, brushed both his shoulders, then bent down and brushed off his knee to thunderous applause from the audience.
"That’s what you got to do," Obama laughed, "That is also precisely why I’m running for president to change that kind of politics."
The Illinois senator called the first half of the debate "tit for tat silliness", quickly adding, "It took us 45 min before we even started talking about a single issue that matters to the American people . . . 45 minutes before we heard about healthcare, 45 minutes before we heard about Iraq, 45 minutes before we heard about jobs, 45 minutes before we heard about gas prices."
Obama said that the debate was a preview of how the Republicans will attack him if he were the nominee.
"That was the roll out of the Republican’s campaign against me in November. It happened just a little early," Obama said.
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller contributed to this report.
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Bill Clinton is disgusting
Posted by: willie | April 17, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Bill Clinton is a sc#m bag.
Posted by: jenny | April 17, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Hillabeans doesn’t need to whine! Bubba does it for her!
Well, next week he can go back to making his $500,000 speeches! Aren’t all these Clintonistas amazed at what they’re getting for “free”?
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 17, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
ABC’s debate was disgusting I felt like i had to take a shower after watching it
Posted by: Jeremie | April 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
WAY TO GO SENATOR CLINTON!!! WAY TO GO ABC!! FAIR AND BALANCED COVERAGE!!!
I have enlclosed the link to the Rollingstone article discussed in last night’s debate: (He lied and Is he above the fact checking you put Senator Clinton through!)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/sto ry/13390609/campaign_08_the_radical_root s_of_barack_obama/print
CLINTON 08 – School is in session!!!!!!
Posted by: Chas | April 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Bill Clinton raped me.
Posted by: taylor | April 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
What is Bill Clinton smoking? Hillary Clinton was whining that the press was so easy on Obama at the last debate and that she always gets the first question. She literally broke into tears in New Hampshire and has played the victim every chance she gets. Bill really needs to shut up.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Bill is 100% right. Hillary was wonderful last night and Obama is finally getting vetted. I hope it’s not too late – we need a dem nominee that can WIN finally and Hillary is our gal!
Clinton is the only dem to win in the past 30 years – they KNOW how to win.
Posted by: rcs1978 | April 17, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
In the Philadelphia debate, both Hillary and Obama regurgitated their familiar mantra that they would veto the falsely maligned Bush taxcuts which resuscitated the U.S. economy from the inherited Clinton recession; but, which Hillary and Obama say favor only the rich. That tired old populist ploy of “soak the rich”. However , a brief review of IRS statistics related to post-Bush tax cut revenues reveals exactly the opposite. Specifically, the share of individual income taxes paid by the bottom 40% of American taxpayers, as a result of expanded child tax credits and earner income tax credits, was reduced from 0% to a -4%; and, took another ten million low income Americans completely off of the tax roles. That is, a very significant four(4) % decrease. On the other end of the scale, the tax burden on the top 20% of income earners, the so-called rich, increased to a full 85% of the total tax burden. For examples on the lower end of the scale, a Single Individual making 30K paid $8400 in taxes under Clinton; under Bush $4500. A married couple making 60K: under Clinton $16,800, under Bush $9000. So Hillary/Obamaspeak, an economic strategy that left our Nation in a RECESSION on the Clinton’s departure from the White House, would damage the poor more then any other group. One can summarize this quite simply by noting that IF Hillary and Obama’s Marxist philosophies of soaking the rich were valid, Communist societies throughout the world would be exorbitantly wealthy, in lieu of economic basket cases a’ la Castro’s Cuba. The same can be said of their forced plan for Socialized Medicine. A program which is failing miserably in such Nations as Canada and the United Kingdom. Canada, as just one example, is now experiencing a dramatic shortfall in physicians. Greg Neubeck
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | April 17, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
You fools who put down the clintons are only doing yourselves in. What goes around comes around. Your words are sending some of us life long dems over to mccain if obama gets the nom.
Posted by: al | April 17, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
If Clinton knows how to win then please explain how the Dems lost the House, Senate and several state governerships/assemblies in 1994. It was the greatest victory of the Republican Party in almost a century. Bill Clinton only knows what to do what is best for him, not the Democratic Party – sounds just like his wife.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
I’m not sure how President Clinton is saying Hillary didn’t whine…during a previous debate she made a remark that she thought she was “getting all the questions first”. To date she’s made plenty of other comments about how she’s treated unfairly by the media and by critics.
Posted by: NK | April 17, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
What a shameless couple, would say or do anything towin an election but not this time. They have no dignity left, the little they have of their reputations have been tarnished for life.
Posted by: bask | April 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Wonder how Bill would have felt if the two dummies asked hillary similar questions, like Monica, Whitewater, firings of white house staff, his pardoning of two weather underground bombers, and the criminal who gave all the money to his campaign, or maybe the stolen furniture and fixtures they took from the white house.
Posted by: roger | April 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Slick’s comments were pretty much an admission that she had been whining in the past. Somebody please put Bill back in his trunk.
Posted by: TexasRick | April 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
whatever!
i guess he didnt think she did so GREAT in the other 19-20 debates…
Posted by: rob | April 17, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Want she the one whining about getting the first question in the last debate. what a blow hard!!!! Eveytime Ilisten to on the the Clintons talk i throw up in my mouth!!
Posted by: James | April 17, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
I hate this kind of stuff. Hillary whines during one of the last debates because of questions being asked to her first, and now Obama is chastised by these two clowns for almost 40 min.. ONE OF WHICH WORKED FOR THE CLINTONS.. and he isn’t allowed to?
Posted by: Christina | April 17, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Both Bill and Obama are trying to get their spin on things. The whole debate was a circle jerk. Stephanopolous moderating, Hillary and Obama taking their little jabs while trying be polite. And Obama saying he is trying to change the way politics in this country – all the while trying to hide his Chicago-style down and dirty shenanigans. Let’s get a real candidate with integrity that we can be proud of.
Posted by: DMH | April 17, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Maybe she didn’t whine last night but she knew she bold faced lied about Bosnia and admitted it..lol..she did top it off with an excuse though.. she needed to get more sleep..lol What’s going to happen at 3am if she can’t even think at 10 in the morning?..lmao.
Otherwhys Hillary whines all the time that she is treated the way she is because she is a woman or she’s not black or when the media calls her on things she is being abused. I supported Bill as president but he needs to let her fight her own battles. Is this what is going to hasppen if she becomes president?
Posted by: Lene | April 17, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Obama proves what they were challenging them on. He resorts to this theme of low politics if his character is questioned.
Obama blows it off like its beneath him , proving his liberal elitism on the stage for all of us to see. On several occasions he looked impatient and almost frustrated with distain that they would have the GALL to call his character into question.
This is the far left liberal line folks. Anyone who disagrees with the philosophy is dead wrong no matter what.
The republicans can now GOAD Obama into looking aarogant at will. Obama honestly BELIEVES his way of thinking is superior to anyone else. Conservative, Moderate, or Centrist.
The guy is so unelectable its getting ridiculous.
Posted by: tomdavie | April 17, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Stephanopoulos held me down while Bill Clinton raped me.
Posted by: Taylor | April 17, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Obama’s a wuss!! Quit crying! If you can’t take it from a girl, will you be able to take it from a boy???
Posted by: CD | April 17, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Hillary struggles to stay relevant. If the people decide the race, then it’s already over. She has lost, and short of theft of the super delegates, she can not change the outcome.
Posted by: Rita | April 17, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Hillary was great! Finally, someone in the media asked Obama some questions on subjects which go directly to his character which, frankly, is an important issue. As is typical, he responds with arrogance and sarcasm while pretending to be someone else. I don’t get him. He attends a church with the same reverend for 20 years but shrugs off the reverends hate by saying that he doesn’t listen to the man or agree with him. I don’t buy for one minute that even if he didn’t hear what that reverend said about 9/11 that someone of the 8,000 people in the church didn’t say something to Obama about it or he read about it after it was said. How stupid does he think we are? The media, even the two last night, have been too soft on him.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
hillary , If i live to be 100 yrs could never tell the lies that bitch has told in just a few .oops there is another round from snipers … oops I do not recall.what a BITCH
Posted by: kaleu | April 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Obama sleepwalkers-tell your master to quit crying, it makes him look weak!
Posted by: CD | April 17, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
couldn’t watch it they are both disgusting liars and one of them hates America and white folk.
Posted by: babs | April 17, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Yes… your previlus campaign manger and press secretary (GEORGE STEPHANOPOLIS) made sure there is no suchy scope……
…nice payback.
Also….horray Bill proved he can speak the truth….. though nowhere near good as his monic true-lies
Posted by: moeen | April 17, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
“Nothing lowers the level of conversation more than raising the voice.”
Obama won by not taking Hillary’s bait — it was a one sided slam — but just think in about 3 weeks we will not see her anymore — just like Bush everyone is just anxious for it to be finished — and as usual she won’t go down alone!
Posted by: Paulet | April 17, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
To the poster who said, “Bill Clinton raped me” I wanna know what makes you so special?
Posted by: Dave | April 17, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Bill, do you think you could please stop raping me?
Posted by: Taylor | April 17, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
No whining Hillary? Not this time at least. Who whined that the “boys” were ganging up on her when Edwards was still in the debate? Who whined about always getting the first question? Who cried when the polls weren’t going her way? Need I go on? I don’t have a problem with the tough “questions” toward Obama, because it is true, the Republicans will pull out the same pathetic mode of attack. But if Hillary really thinks she has a chance at the Presidency, then let’s give her equal time in the hot seat. Where was the question about her flip-flop on NAFTA? About her campaign manager and the trade deals with Columbia – or her husband taking money from Columbia? Don’t trade issues really effect PA voters? Won’t the Republicans bring back the scandals of the 90s? Isn’t that a relevant question or two? They will demand to see their donor list & recent tax returns – can we ask about that? Let’s not make Obama’s associations seem suspect as if the Clintons’ don’t have a whole slew of skeletons in their closets! Give them equal time to squirm. Don’t just give her extra time to put her negative two cents in. What a disgrace these people are. People who vote for Clinton make me really sad about the state of mind of some in this country.
Posted by: Santa Fe Mom | April 17, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
ABC should be taken off the air for this “shameless” attempt at an unbiased
political debate! And Hillary, please. She may be the most disgusting woman on the face of the earth and denigrates all women. She lies, she is ruthless, disorganized and hubris. And what’s with the make-up…where did all those wrinkles go??? She looked like she was ready for her glamour shot. Wonder how much she pays her make-up artist. At least the rest of the candidates are the real deal.
I, for one, am tired of the rhetoric, the continual parsing, the unabashed “scorched earth” politics going on in this campaign. Hillary needs to step down and go home to Arkansas. It is a sure bet, New York doesn’t want her any more!!!!
Posted by: Wizard | April 17, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Hillary Clinton – The Feminist who is dependant on her husband…go figure
Posted by: go away | April 17, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
“Where was Bill’s affection for Hil-LIAR-y when Monica was interning? The two deserve each other. It is amazing to see her wanting John McCain to win instead of Obama, then she can run in 2012.”
THIS IS OBAMA’S NEW POLITICS. THEY CALL THE CLINTONS SLEAZE AND GO AFTER THEM. I HAVE A FEELING THE OBAMAS WILL MAKE CLINTONS LOOK LIKE SCHOOL CHILDREN WHEN IT COMES TO SLEAZE.
Posted by: al | April 17, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Whoever is putting up the rape crap and Vince Foster crap PLEASE STOP IT. It isn’t funny or cute. You are exactly what is wrong with America today.
Posted by: Kris | April 17, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
WHY CAN’T THESE SCUMBAGS BILL AND HILL JUST GO AWAY…ONLY DUMBOCRATS WOULD LISTEN OR VOTE FOR EITHER OF THESE TWO SO CALLED PEOPLE.
Posted by: Dave | April 17, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
So Ed Rendell was whining about the debate as well, Bill? He HATED it! ‘What are we DOING here?!,’ he said after the burlesque was over.
Posted by: mobird | April 17, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I’m just hoping something finally puts this pair out of their misery … if this is the price we have to pay to get them off stage(the debate being their last act) … so be it.
Posted by: beaupritchard | April 17, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
If Hillary can’t win she doesn’t want Osama to win. She thinks she can try again in ’12 when McCain is 75 years old and who knows how the war will be going. I think because of the devisive campaign McCain will win in Nov.
Posted by: Andy | April 17, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Given his poor performance, does Obama actually telling people that is a preview of the Republican attacks he will face in Nov. help him???
Just Wondering.
I would have expected the Clinton camp to say that but i guess they don’t have to now.
Posted by: s.b. | April 17, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Was this guy a President?
What happened to him?
Posted by: marianna | April 17, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
The Clintons lost the ethical high ground a long time ago or has everyone forgotten that Bush really campaigned for a return to “civility” in Washington? Fooling around in the White House with a neurotic groupie, lieing under oath and parsing the word “is” on national television should bring back those memories.
Posted by: Linda Feldman | April 17, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
If Obama can’t handle this, he’ll never be able to handle the republicans. He should just man up and just admit he had a bad night, no one is perfect, but to play this wounded victim role is really unattractive and unbecoming of a leader. Do your history, this is a picnic compare to the founding fathers. The job of President is tough and he needs to stop whining.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | April 17, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Hey Hilliary, here’s how I (white, middle class male) feel about you… SCREW YOU!!! I don’t need you either!!! Good luck winning with your shrinking coalition of the shameful. Muddy up Obama all you want in order to put your giddy boyfriend John in power. And we’ll all be singing kumbayah on our way to the gates of hell that you, “Slick willy and neo-CON John” find so comforting. Go ahead and keep poking Iran in the eye and see what they do to us. Apparently 911 has taught you NOTHING!!! But then again you and your shills have enjoyed plenty of career advancement off the backs of dead Americans and Arabs. Go ahead and finish the job Bill and Bush started you vile beast…
Posted by: Ned | April 17, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Hillary stopped whining for a day.
Posted by: marianna | April 17, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
The most cheated on woman in the world did great last night. If so, why doesn’t Bill ever spend the night with her???????
Posted by: wallyman | April 17, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
I’m gonna HURL!!!!Bill and Hill as lovebirds now? Thats less believable than the Snipers Of Tuzla…
Posted by: skep41 | April 17, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Hillary knows exactly what Bill did to me.
Posted by: Taylor | April 17, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Shame on you ABC that was the worst run debate ever. We wanted to know about policy not the bullshit you asked. That was terrible you did not serve the American people tonight. Comedy central does a better job interviewing than you. I will no longer watch you evening news. Again shame on you Abraham Adam Gonzales Disabled Combat Veteran from Denver.
Posted by: Abraham Gonzales | April 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
It is rather interesting that the ABC moderators did not dredge up the HRC issues that have been circulating the web for the past 2 or 3 weeks but did pick up the items about BHO. One email lists book titles, quotes, and page references which present HRC as anything less than the protector of the little people or respectful of authority figures. Another is a recap of an interview with a Democratic staff attorney during the Watergate era who was the superior of HRC. He described how HRC, driven in her political interests, was willing to circumvent due process. If ABC is willing to vet the “guilt by association” issues related to BHO, they ought to look at the accusations that the 527s will float about HRC. If the intent was to toughen up BHO for the general election, they better do the same for HRC in case she gets the nomination. Otherwise, if she is the candidate, the Clinton War Room will be working 30 hour days fighting back against the 527s. The bottom line is, the HRC baggage coupled with the WJC baggage will be a tough load to haul and McCain’s chances become greatly improved….. That’s my humble opinion!
Posted by: LPetersen | April 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Bill shouldn’t say much, two words, Monica Lewingski
Posted by: kato | April 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Obama was asked about things that are on people’s minds. He has implied over and over that Hillary Clinton virtually initiated the war in Iraq. He has been no saint in this nor has Hillary. But Obama is getting a free ride–he may be a good choice but he had a free ride with a campaign based on charisma. We know almost nothing about him.
I may vote for him but I don’t claim he has all it takes nor do I feel I know much about him.
Posted by: Michael Bell | April 17, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
“But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don’t want to play, keep your uniform off.” Bill, it’s not a sport. It’s not a game where force, aggression, or playmaking matters; it’s governance of a country, where intelligence, judgment, and integrity matter. The treatment of politics as sport or entertainment, where anything goes and money and influence decide the outcomes, is exactly what Barack Obama is providing an alternative to.
Posted by: Robert in Charlottesville | April 17, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Of course Hilliar isn’t winning – Stepasnotfull was Bill’s Press Secretary – kinda lika Tony Snowjob is to W. It was a biased ‘debate’ from the get go. I knew there was a reason I don’t watch ABC.
Posted by: Gail | April 17, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
i say to obama, if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen, or out of the race.
Posted by: gary hull | April 17, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Bill just called in his markers. That’s all this was about. Old Clinton connections doing his bidding.
Posted by: ROB | April 17, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Bill just called in his markers. That’s all this was about. Old Clinton connections doing his bidding.
Posted by: ROB | April 17, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Quit whining about Monica. That’s old news and there are thousands of husbands and wives cheating on each other every day of the year. Hillary won that debate without a doubt and Obama had trouble answering the questions as quick as Hillary. For a college graduate he’s a joke. I can’t imagine him as president of this country and not knowing what to do on day one. This dumb generation of college students are voting for Obama because he is in their league, drugs and booze and I can bet he drinks that beer at home. George was right bringing up Ayers and Ayres two underground dogs involved with bombings and wanted by the police because Obama knows them and had ties to both. He has the worst background of any candidate that ever ran for the presidency. Any one that would vote for a candidate that belonged to an anti-american church whose pastor is a racist and hates white people have to be anti-american themselves and don’t care about this country.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 17, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Hillary’s response to the Bosnia fairytale was as close to admitting that she lied without say the word lied. That to me was the most significant thing to come out of this debate. The second was when she said “yes yes yes” to Obama’s electability.
Posted by: bud | April 17, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I dont understand why Hillary keeps trying to tie Bill Ayers to Obama, when Bill Clinton pardoned two members of the same radical group from the Weather Underground.
That doesn’t seem very bright to me, in fact it seems rather DUMB.
Posted by: gail | April 17, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Bill you lost your “sense of entitlement” when you decided to have your extra marital affair in the White House. Now go slobber somewhere else.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Bill you lost your “sense of entitlement” when you decided to have your extra marital affair in the White House. Now go slobber somewhere else.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
To answer Alex’s question . . . they think we are pretty stupid! Always have . . . always will!
Posted by: DanaBl | April 17, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
MCcain for president, Hillary for vice!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Byron | April 17, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Yes, but was she wearing her flag pin ?
Posted by: southamco | April 17, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Just how dumb does old man clinton think we are? Why she has been whining ever since she knew she would never win, yeah that’s pretty much right from the get-go. Bye-Bye Hill and Bill enjoy the $109 million!
Posted by: Elizabeth | April 17, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
I think Obama must have been smoking his crack pipe before the debate last night… ugh, ugh, ugh !!!
Lets watch the debate again and see how many times he said Ugh?
Posted by: Joe | April 17, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Bill and Hillary Clinton just crack me up. No whining? What is he talking about? She whines all the time: first debate question, vast right wing conspiracy…etc. These two lie so often and son naturally they have no concept of the truth.
Posted by: DMR | April 17, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Taylor,
I think that was the leader of your cult Obama!
Posted by: James | April 17, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
LOOOSER ABAMA TELL HIM TO GO VISIT INDEA…. lets see what will end with mccain
Posted by: ASHLY | April 17, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
What a pathetic excuse for a US presidential debate. Obama is so much above this BS it’s not even funny. Bring on the real issues… see who voted for what and then decide who you will vote for. For any internet newbies, go to http://www.google.com, and type in Obama or Hillary, a topic, and senate vote or similar. You’ll get some answers. Might as well stop watching TV since they can’t seem to cover actual issues that matter.
Posted by: J | April 17, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
It is funny how all of Obama’s bloggers come out right after he looks really stupid like he did in the debate last night. Now that I think about it Obama looks stupid most of the time.
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Free round of drinks at my local hangout in Old Town Pasadena the night Hillary loses the nomination.
Posted by: Dan | April 17, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Bill, I’m really starting to not care about what you think or have to say.
Posted by: LongT | April 17, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
It is such BS that Obama acts like he is above typical politics when he is clearly the worst kind of Politician.
Posted by: James | April 17, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
George S used to work for the Clinton’s….does is show?
Posted by: michele | April 17, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Thank God we haven’t beenn hearing more of her “My 35 years of experience” rhetoric. They are both pathological liars. Poor Vince Foster.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Did you people actually watch the debate? I was proud of Hillary and once again shocked by Obama’s inability to speak unless it has been previously written for him. I have noticed through out the 20 some debates that Hillary needs to answer the questions first so that Obama has some sort of answer to give. He is a mirror with a fancy suit and no real idea of what this country needs. I find it ironic that the people who are poking at the shooting in Bosnia story are also calling last night debate unfair towards Obama. We need to know the character of the person we are going to nominate as our candidate. Ignorance is only bliss for George Bush and Bush 3 soon to come if we can’t look deep into our potential candidates and stand behind them. I want to know everything there is to know about Obama, we have had years and years to learn all of Hillary’s faults and that is something useful to have in your corner when you are taking on the Republicans. If Obama can’t handle it or has questionable ties and opinions and relationships – I want to know and hear his explanation. We have a President to elect and I have had 8 years too much of the BS.
Another thing I have noticed while watching debate after debate is that Obama seems to have difficultiy with making eye contact and showing the respect that will be neccessary for a president to possess when dealing with foreign leaders. I have no doubt that Obama has potential, he is just years away from being ready to lead our country.
Posted by: christy | April 17, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
G0 HILLARY KEEP ON FIGHTING WE LOVE YOU.
Posted by: chris | April 17, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Obama has had a free ride this entire campaign all he had to do is bring up something that Clinton did 12 years ago and the press runs it for weeks. Clinton is the only person who will speak out against Obama.
Clinton 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jeff | April 17, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Please spare us any whining by Hillary Clinton. Politics are tough. Certainly any Republican in this Liberal media age can tell you. The Presidency is a tough job; perhaps she’s not up to it.
Posted by: Jennifer | April 17, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
It’s about time the media decided to be fair. Obama was getting a free ride for way too long. Maybe it was Karma, maybe prayers. Thank you ABC.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Has any one ever seen “A League Of Their Own”, the Jimmy Dugan character played by Tom Hanks says “crying? There’s no crying in baseball”. Someone should tell Obama there’s no whining in politics. This is a cheap trick to get sympathy votes.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | April 17, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Joe – my thoughts exactly. Mr “Orator” couldn’t speak without stumbling around with his “ughs”.
Posted by: SM | April 17, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
From the beginning Obama has had 90% of the black vote. He would never have gotten this far and gotten this free ride if he was white.
McCain is going to kick his A**
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Can we Please just let Bill Clinton himself to moderate the next debate?
Why would Obama even consider walking into a trap like that.
Uh-gee, let’s get Hillary’s lap dog George to moderate the debate — yea, that’s fair!
These Politicains and elite media must think the American Public are complete mindless idiots.
The whole process is a Joke!
Posted by: Keith | April 17, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
She might have been great last night Bill….
BUT SHE STILL WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Walter Dixon | April 17, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
For the sake of the Democratic party, support Hillary.
I would like health care coverage and would only hire a person with experience.
Count your lucky stars that Obama is NOT the nominee.
He will not be able to withstand the media attacks that Hillary has been able to nor the attacks from McCain.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
By letting the SuperDelegates steal this election, there will be MANY dems. including my wife and I that will vote for McSame.
Oh well, at least we won’t have Bill chasing interns.
I can live with McSame.
Anyone but Clinton.
Posted by: Pete | April 17, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Kardasia_Prime — You are soooooooooo right!
He’s trying to whine his way into the White House. Not gonna happen.
Posted by: SM | April 17, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama got his butt kicked last night. He will never survive if he becomes the nominee.
Who do you think the press will attack in the general election… not McCain.
Posted by: Ape | April 17, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Obama is above this stuff? Pleeeaaassse! If his political “machine” gets any dirter with the smear jobs that they have been doing on the Clintons, he’ll be running for the Republican nomination!!
That’s his game, try to look like he’s above the fray, while turning loose his hatchet men. And of course to whine when he finally gets a few tough questions. Because he’s different?! He’s a phony!
Posted by: colorado | April 17, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Greg Neubeck, You are right on target!!! The folks listening to Obama’s mantra need to read between the lines….We DON’T want another Cuba aka the US.
Posted by: Rita | April 17, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
ABC doesn’t need to agonize over this debate.
The moderators were fair (with George this is always surprising) they asked questions that should have been asked; they were not; I repeat: were not, “rough on O’bama”
If we can not question this man about his actions before he becomes president, then what will happen if he is our president, and no one can, is even allowed to question or criticize him?
Isn’t this one of the main charges the democrats make against President Bush?
OBama has no right to be president if he is not willing to answer for his words and actions.
What hopes can he bring us? What changes is he promising us(threatening us with?)
Posted by: Linda | April 17, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Well I guess it’s clear that Bill is just as attentive a husband as always. Hillary has been whining for months about how the media has an unfair bias against her. Even during past debates she has whined because Obama was getting(in her opinion) softball questions. It must be nice for Hillary to have such a protective husband who is always there to stand up for her when she needs help. I hope he will also be willing to take the phone from her at 3am in the unlikely event that she is the one answering it.
Posted by: joel | April 17, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Typical white people, clinging to antipathy for people who are not like them. No, No, No, G*d Dam* America! Hillary ain’t never been called a n*ger. This is the first time I have been proud of my country.
The US will NEVER allow this racist in the White House!
Posted by: ha | April 17, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“Smearing” the Clintons is not something very hard to do. They’ve done it to themselves. Maybe these two hillbillies will finally wallow of into oblivion.
Posted by: terry | April 17, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
It’s obvious who has a better understanding of the issues…HRC.
I’m glad NOBAMA finally got some tough questions. And he couldn’t answer them.
Why didn’t he say that he made some stupid comments that he now regrets?
Posted by: davidfromCA | April 17, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Keep fighting Hillary we love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: SamDC | April 17, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
That’s all the fat b%tch does is whine and lie.
Posted by: Ray Love | April 17, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Obama is disgusting. Obama is a scum bag. Obama raped me.
Posted by: adam | April 17, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Common guys…Bill is right….Hillary is not whinning…..
….she has to take a break for at least a day after a year of whining….and rest up and start whinning stronger from tommorrow.
Posted by: moeen | April 17, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
No, Hillary didn’t whine.
SHE CRIED LIKE A LITTLE GIRL…WHAT?…3 TIMES NOW ON NATIONAL TV?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The Clinton Machine!
Turning out lies faster than most people can think!
Posted by: Bognelia232 | April 17, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
G0 HILLARY KEEP ON FIGHTING WE HATE YOU.
Posted by: chris | April 17, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Obama supporters cant stand it — this reminds me of when the curtain was pulled during the wizard of oz. LOL
Obama has been exposed and it’s not pretty.
HILLARY ’08
Posted by: roberto | April 17, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Go Hillary! Don’t drop out no matter what happens next Tuesday. Hang in there!
Posted by: Ken | April 17, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
How much botox hillary had?
How many more days of this show from this woman must we suffer as democratic voters?
Please stop this madness we as democrats want to go on with some dignity
Thank you
Posted by: Lynn M | April 17, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Go Hillary! Don’t drop out no matter what happens next Tuesday. Hang in there!
Posted by: Ken | April 17, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Bill Clinton is gross. He rattles on and on assuming he still has the charm from the past, but he doesn’t. He’s just a red-faced old angry guy now. Newsflash: We don’t want the same “contact sports” politics you represent, Bill. That’s the past, and it sucked. And hey, Republicans: Let’s stop talking about some guy’s pastor and neighbor, and start talking about how and why you started the worst-planned war in history, that is bankrupting our economy and killing our soldiers.
Posted by: workmonkey | April 17, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
If I remember correctly, I believe it was during the Ohio debate where she complained of “always” having to answer the questions first. Going further to quoting SNL
Bill Clinton lies again
Posted by: Vanessa | April 17, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I am not crazy about Hillary Clinton, but she is clearly a better candidate than Obama. He does not know the issues. Are you going to vote for charisma and watch the country get even worse or vote for the person who is most qualified even if they are not as “cool.” If you are going for charisma do not complain when things become even worse and admit you don’t really care about the future of our children.
Posted by: Sandy Scott | April 17, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Hillary is always quick to say that who you associate with, defines you. That’s why she keeps bringing up Barack’s pastor, and now his neighbor. HELLO??? She associates daily, intimately, an admitted adulterer. YUCK. Doesn’t that make her kind of dirty.
Posted by: kansas | April 17, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Bill’s right Hillary didn’t whine. She cried.
Posted by: Brandon | April 17, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Obama has based his entire campaign saying he had better judgement (i.e. on something he did not have to vote on, and granted he vascillated afterwards).
However, his judgement is the issue. Why stick with the church and Rev. Wright? Why donate $27,500 in 2007 and $22,500 in 2006 to that church and its ideology of hate and racial division???
I am sorry folks, even from Massachusetts, I am going with McCain. Also, we have seen the phoniness of an inexperience candidate preaching hope and change… and within 60 days of his election he became irrelevant as our governor in Massachusetts. That person is Obama’s friend that he shares prepared speeeches with Mr. Deval Patrick.
As for Clinton… who can trust her with anything? She has no concious and her ability to lie comes to naturally… regular people with sound principles can’t stretch the truth or deny the obvioius like Hillary, Bill, Carville, and the rest of the Arkansas folks.
Posted by: Steve from Boston | April 17, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Thank God when the Clintons are gone. Wont have to hear her lies and Bills. That will be party time for sure. The debate was the worse I have seen. Send the Clintons home.
Posted by: phyllis | April 17, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Last night it appeared to me that Obama made the debate linger on “non-issue” questions. Charlie even said during the debate that Senator Clinton wasn’t having equal time as Senator Obama.
I think the next debate the panel should borrow Dave Chappale’s wrap-it up boxes, so we can get to the issues.
As voters we need to ask ourselves,who can get the senate and congress to work together to change the mistakes W has made?
Posted by: jeanette | April 17, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
ABC gets worse every minute.
Posted by: Nick | April 17, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
My friends and I just voted early for OBAMA in North Carolina! Go OBAMA!!!!
Posted by: Blitzen | April 17, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Thank God when the Clintons are gone. Wont have to hear her lies and Bills. That will be party time for sure. The debate was the worse I have seen. Send the Clintons home.
Posted by: phyllis | April 17, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Hillary Clinton was great!!! I look forward to her being the next President and our first woman President Hillary Clinton in 2008!!!
Posted by: Bill | April 17, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Barack sounds like he wants to change politics by becoming America’s Hitler.
Posted by: Joseph | April 17, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Every time Obama opens his mouth, he shows his arrogance. Arrogance goeth before the fall. Can’t wait to welcome President McCain in January, 2009.
Posted by: Lucinda | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Hillary fanatics scare me…seriously.
Posted by: Travis | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
How can they say that these issues don’t matter to most voters? What research or poll are they basing that claim on. I’m one voter who IS concerned about those issues. Who does the candidate associate with? If the candidate associates with these people now and for the last 20 years, then why should we assume they won’t still be part of their inner circle when they’re elected president?
Posted by: mike | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Charles Gibson and George (turn coat) Stepanoupoulous tried their best to rattle Obama last night. To their failure—it didn’t work. What a mess! These two commentators who one at least I had much respect for (CG) and last night Gibson jumped on the bandwagaon of media sleaze with the Clintons. ABC Television News doesn’t have one brown or black face on their executive board. No wonder Obama or any one else that is not the hue of the board gets the shaft when questioned. Unfair reporting, biased reporting, under-reporting etc. etc. etc. Last nights’ so-called debate is an example of how the media and their spin has tried to further ruin the minds of the voters. Voter’s wake up–snap out of it!!! For your own sake.
Posted by: Thelma | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Last night debate prove the decadence of the Media, America deserve better than these reportes who think that they are on the Idol, but thank to Obama that is becoming the hope of real America the mixtur divercity of America new face, while the old face is tired losing, and not any more focus
Posted by: Frank Abdul | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Charles Gibson and George (turn coat) Stepanoupoulous tried their best to rattle Obama last night. To their failure—it didn’t work. What a mess! These two commentators who one at least I had much respect for (CG) and last night Gibson jumped on the bandwagaon of media sleaze with the Clintons. ABC Television News doesn’t have one brown or black face on their executive board. No wonder Obama or any one else that is not the hue of the board gets the shaft when questioned. Unfair reporting, biased reporting, under-reporting etc. etc. etc. Last nights’ so-called debate is an example of how the media and their spin has tried to further ruin the minds of the voters. Voter’s wake up–snap out of it!!! For your own sake.
Posted by: Thelma | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
I am amazed at the way Obama has of keeping his dignity, and answering the most irrelevant questions with a seriousness that give credence to the most ignorant questioners.
Posted by: DAVID | April 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Bill, have you forgotten how much Hillary was whining in JUST THE LAST DEBATE THEY HAD IN OHIO that she always get questions first???? Have you forgotten how much you were whining about how the media treated your wife? Stop lying so much. And oh, this is a contact sport but you don’t do it to members of your own team idiot!!!!!
Posted by: Democrats United | April 17, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
These are questions that Obama has dealt with for weeks, and you guys complain?
Um bama whines and states a knife was stuck into him….are you serious!?
If he can’t figure out a proper response to these questions by now that is due to him and his continuing theme of being lazy intellectually.
But now the scapegoat kid is at it again.
It’s all Hillary’s fault and big bad ABC for lobbing him softballs.
Call the waaaaambulance….Um bama got questions he should have answers to by now.
LOL
Posted by: Cali girl knows the truth | April 17, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Bill is an old fool! What more can one say?
Posted by: Niall | April 17, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Was Hillary Fired for Unethical Misconduct?
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The links below say that her boss in the Watergate investigation fired her, refused to give her a letter of recommendation and said she was a liar who did highly unethical things.
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I have not seen these statements elsewhere.
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Supposedly, her boss says that she conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality, that she was an unethical and dishonest lawyer; that he should have reported her to the bar association for disciplinary action; that she wrote a fraudulent legal memorandum which if submitted to a judge would have gotten her disbarred; and that he could not recommend her for any subsequent position of public or private trust.
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http://www.jzeifman.com/
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/hillarys-crocodile-tears-in-connecticut
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Has anyone been able to confirm or debunk this?
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Thanks.
Posted by: swuzy | April 17, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Last night debate prove the decadence of the Media, America deserve better than these reportes who think that they are on the Idol, but thank to Obama that is becoming the hope of real America the mixtur divercity of America new face, while the old face is tired losing, and not any more focus
Posted by: Frank Abdul | April 17, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
These are questions that Obama has dealt with for weeks, and you guys complain?
Um bama whines and states a knife was stuck into him….are you serious!?
If he can’t figure out a proper response to these questions by now that is due to him and his continuing theme of being lazy intellectually.
But now the scapegoat kid is at it again.
It’s all Hillary’s fault and big bad ABC for lobbing him softballs.
Call the waaaaambulance….Um bama got questions he should have answers to by now.
LOL
Posted by: Cali girl | April 17, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
LOVED IT..It finally answered questions about Obama. The ones those of us not in an Obama Coma wanted to know.
GREAT JOB ABC – dont listen to those sour Obama supporters who are are down on you for actually forcing the candidates to ANSWER real questions!
GOOOOOOOOOOO ABC!
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
As I post this from Bosnia I am coming under extreme far from all sides. As a matter of fact I have just returned fire right back into the back of Vince Fosters head.
Love Hillary
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
LOVED IT..It finally answered questions about Obama. The ones those of us not in an Obama Coma wanted to know.
GREAT JOB ABC – dont listen to those sour Obama supporters who are are down on you for actually forcing the candidates to ANSWER real questions!
GOOOOOOOOOOO ABC!
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
With George S (Clinton’s surrogate and water carrier) and Charles G. on Hillary’s side. The sky is the limit. Stephanopoulos obviously thought it was time to thank the Clintons for bringing him out of nowhere, and he did thank them big yesterday.
Congratulations George, you are just a political operative, a Clinton surrogate masquerading as a serious journalist. Go do some internship with Tim Russert, that may help your upstart journalism career which you tarnished yesterday for good.
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
With George S (Clinton’s surrogate and water carrier) and Charles G. on Hillary’s side. The sky is the limit. Stephanopoulos obviously thought it was time to thank the Clintons for bringing him out of nowhere, and he did thank them big yesterday.
Congratulations George, you are just a political operative, a Clinton surrogate masquerading as a serious journalist. Go do some internship with Tim Russert, that may help your upstart journalism career which you tarnished yesterday for good.
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Both or the candidates came off like the pathetic con artists and liars that they are. They think they are running against Geo. W. Bush and while whining about the cost of gas (out of a President’s control) the number of foreclosures (caused by numbskulls who don’t know how to handle their own finances) global warming (unproven, but a tidy excuse to raise taxes that will be spent with nothing to show for it) and the war in Iraq (which no one likes, even Republicans) they offer no solutions. Except to raise taxes and offer more of LBJ’s Great Society which is a proven failure since 1965. My Politics teacher in high school had an expression “the pendulum swings”. If the Democrats succeed in taking the White House in November they will screw things up so much worse than GWB that a really hard core right winger will take office in 2012, and everyone will be sorry. Hold your nose and vote for McCain, he’ll screw up the country much less than the two Democrat dopes will.
Posted by: Walter Rego | April 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Obama should feel good …. Clinton is after him and McCain is after him. That’s when you know they feel threatened and YOU’RE the threat. You only have to worry if they begin ignoring you. Obama has already won the nomination and will easily win in the Fall.
Posted by: dgfiit | April 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Debate? What debate was that? The only person missing on the floor last night was Jerry Springer….
Posted by: Leah | April 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
LOVED IT..It finally answered questions about Obama. The ones those of us not in an Obama Coma wanted to know.
GREAT JOB ABC – dont listen to those sour Obama supporters who are are down on you for actually forcing the candidates to ANSWER real questions!
GOOOOOOOOOOO ABC!
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Worst debate ever. ABC should be ashamed. What kind of questions were those? A bottom feeder debate if I ever saw one, I’m done with ABC News.
Posted by: Mike O'Meara | April 17, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
LOVED IT..It finally answered questions about Obama. The ones those of us not in an Obama Coma wanted to know.
GREAT JOB ABC – dont listen to those sour Obama supporters who are are down on you for actually forcing the candidates to ANSWER real questions!
GOOOOOOOOOOO ABC!
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
LOVED IT..It finally answered questions about Obama. The ones those of us not in an Obama Coma wanted to know.
GREAT JOB ABC – dont listen to those sour Obama supporters who are are down on you for actually forcing the candidates to ANSWER real questions!
GOOOOOOOOOOO ABC!
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 17, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Sorry Bill your wife is a god damn shape shifter and liar. She learned from you obviously. Clintons operate with a wanton disregard for the truth. You presume that our political system and perks are by design for use by political prostitutes and frauds like yourselves. Get a damn job that does not involve you and Hillary sucking funds out of the National Treasury. Go away already. You sir are a national embarrasment. Yours was the Little Penis Presidency. Hillary offers us what the snotty lying B_itch Presidency? Go play with an underaged girl, it seems as that is what sexual predators like yourself do best. At least your wife gets better looking broads than you do.
Posted by: Christopher London | April 17, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Nylon Stockings
Nylon hose
Here comes Hillary hold your nose !!!
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
ABC and Hillary can go to hell. Hold that!
Posted by: Mike J | April 17, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Obama runs on ‘character’ and ‘judgment’, yet he considers questions that would shed light on his claims as ‘silly’ and ‘distraction’. This is another evidence how arrogant and out of touch he is.
Posted by: vote4thebest | April 17, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Wait….she wasn’t whining? I seem to remember her whining about getting the first question too many times during a previous debate.
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
ABC and the Clintons should get off of this planet. This is where actual human beings belong.
Posted by: Wexler | April 17, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I am so betting on Chelsea in the Kentucky Derby
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Every other day I read that Bill Clinton’s been locked in a basement — for *real* this time — until the nomination is resolved.
And on the intervening days, Bill is out there on every media outlet.
Posted by: fletcher | April 17, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
The last gasp of the MSM’s revelance and Hillary Clinton’s campaign…
Posted by: Ray Love | April 17, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
It amazes me that she was so upset about the preacher that she would have walked out of the church…… but the idea of a 50 year old pervert taking advantage of a 20 year old intern she can live with.
go figure it…
Posted by: SDindependent | April 17, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Has anyone bothered to notice that Obama is busy attacking Clinton today? What a joke! This man preaches about changing politics as usual and is talking trash and negativity today….but that’s okay if King Obama preaches negative garbage because he is the Almighty. Makes me sick. He looked like a fool out there last night..stumbling, bumbling. I says it’s about time he got hit hit with some tough questions for a change as Clinton has been getting beat on in all the previous debates. We don’t know much Obama and that scares me. This will all come to a head in the general election if he is the nominee because all his dirty lies and trash will brought into play by the Republicans.
Posted by: Trish | April 17, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Really Bill? You don’t remember her whining in a previous debate, “why do I always get the first question?” Gee, I remember.
Posted by: todd | April 17, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
I was very disappointed in the debates last night. I was hoping that the moderator’s questions would be more focused on issues that are of vital interest to us as Americans.
Posted by: PATRICIA O'GILLOOLY | April 17, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I thought it was a great debate. As usual, Hillary’s intelligence shows like the leader she is. Obama on the other hand, kept stumbling so much and looked so ignorant and inexperienced, I even felt embarrassed for him. This country is ready for a strong patriotic leader who’s love for this country is equal to Hillary. Hillary is an American Flag! Hillary is change! Hillary is the BEST! God Bless America!
Posted by: Rosa | April 17, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I fear its too late, but last night you could really see the experience gap between these 2. Clintons ideas on containing Iran made Obama look like the novice he is. It is so disappointing that you Americans can’t get over whatever personal dislikes you have for Hillary because Obama will be a disaster for America & for the rest of the world. And this is after 8 years of Bush.
God help us!
Posted by: Mark | April 17, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
IF OBAMA WOULD HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS PROPERLY, THEN IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 45 WASTED MINUTES. MY MIDDLE NAME IS NOT HUSSEIN.
Posted by: MARSHALL D PHILLIPS | April 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I have no problems with the questions they asked Obama, but they should have discussed Clinton’s issues as well
Here are some issues Stephanopolos and Gibson chose to ignore:
Marc Rich Cash for Pardon Scandal
Clinton Library Donation Scandal
Cattle Futures
FALN Pardon Scandal
Stolen White House Plates and Fixtures
Impeachment Process
Hillary’s Healthcare Fiasco of the 90s
Sandy Berger, Clintons National Security Adviser stealing papers from the National Archives to hide Clinton Administration misdeeds.
Since they had decided to be petty, then they should have gone all the way. I guess they can do that, since that may expose Stephanopoulos, oops he was part of scandal ridden Clinton White House of the 90s.
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Next stop for the Clintons…No not Beverly Hills, Columbia since Bill was so against stopping the drug cartel in his storied admininstration.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Is that all Hillary can do now, is send in the PIT-BILL to attempt to shred her opponent?
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
The Clintons have been sad–soon to be tragic figures in American politics.
Posted by: Bill | April 17, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
ABC took a page from the Joseph Goebbels handbook on this one. Pure propaganda. Pathetic….George Stephanopoulos?!?!?!? Why not have Bill Clinton moderate it? How stupid do you think your viewers are ABC? When ABC has endorsed Hillary then we must stop watching ABC to be free of propaganda.
George Stephanopoulos and ABC have betrayed American Democracy and are guilty of treason. Flag pins!?!!? So we should make sure we elect someone who wears a flag pin.?!?!? Wow. What a disgrace!
brendan b brown
Brooklyn NY
Posted by: brendan | April 17, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Obama was getting a free ride because he hasn’t done anything wrong. He served on the board of a charity (kind of different from serving on the board of competition crushing behemoth Walmart). Ayers happened to be on the board too. Ayers was involved in bombings of property (not people) 39 years ago when Obama was A. 8 years old, and B. Living in Indonesia. Hillary’s husband pardoned two of the people from his group on his last day in office. Hillary supporters, to the extent those of you who are posting in her favor are real Hillary supporters and not Rush Limbaugh operatives, for the love of God, wake up!
Posted by: Bob Scofield | April 17, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
What debate was Bill Clinton watching?
Posted by: dgfiit | April 17, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
You Obamabots just don’t get it. Your boy tanked during this debate. And now he’s whining big time that ABC and Clinton are picking on him. ABC is the only mainstream media outlet beside FAUX News who have been willing to come out and ask this guy any tough questions, and then actually not just roll over and accept his lame and ever-changing with the political weather answers. They actually pushed a bit and Obambi crumbled under the pressure. Did anyone notice that twitch he always gets by his right eye when he’s getting peaved off? Well it was twitching all night. Indeed take the boy’s script away, put a little pressure on him, and he becomes a bumbling, blithering, inarticulate elitist nitwit. Sorry, I don’t care if we do NEED a democrat in the White House, Obambi will not get my vote if he’s the nominee. I’ll take my chances on McCain. At least McCain’s a real politician, a moderate, and not to mention a war veteran who’d been to hell and back in his life. He’s got a spine. This Obambi with all his softness and naivity just scares the crap out of this American patriot.
Posted by: Sparkie in PA | April 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Clinotn has been going through unfair press sunce november while the candidate of “UMMM Ummmm” change has had a free ride, except when he puts his foot in his mouth. So it is turn about fair play. He said she was whining back when she was complaining, now he complains. quit your whining.
Posted by: The Lord of War | April 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Hey Brenda Brown poor you that’s your state senator you’re stuck with. After she concedes you probably won’t see her much anyway.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
To “Blair Pittsburgh PA” – you say it answered important questions people want to know about….like flag pins you mean? Are flag pins a bigger deal than the war in Iraq or gas reaching $4 a gallon?
Give me a break.
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Thank you ABC.
Great debate. – Good questions.
In the end, John McCain won it fair and square!!
Posted by: Ed in Rhode Island | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Thank you ABC.
Great debate. – Good questions.
In the end, John McCain won it fair and square!!
Posted by: Ed in Rhode Island | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Obama can’t take the heat..go home Whiny Obama
Posted by: emmy | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
I don’t know, she just seems like such a liar.
I’m really afraid of her.
Posted by: Lisa Vanderzan | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Used to like Bill Clinton. voted for him. DEFENDED him when he lied about Lewinsky. But now realize he is just a liar and I will never vote now for a Clinton. How hypocritical can he be to say Hillary never whines when she’s been whining non-stop about sexist coverage and one-sided debates. WOW
Posted by: Kris | April 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Wow, I guess this settles it: ABC “News” is in the tank for Mrs. Clinton, who showed about as much charisma and depth last night as a small soapdish. Not only are they congratulating themselves but now we roll out the barrel for her too. I guess we know who’s coverage not to bother paying any attention to anymore, thank you for helping to clear this up.
Posted by: Squonkamatic | April 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Bill Clinton is a joke.
Hillary is a joke.
But Obama is a terrorist sympathizer.
Which is worst?
Pass the Kool Aid, Michelle.
Posted by: Al | April 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Hillary comes off as the whiner for going to the well once too often about Obama’s misstated “bitter” comment. Is she doing the Republican’s work for them in the hopes of running again in 2012? But the biggest boobs in the arena were Gibson and Stepanoupoulous. Little of substance could be learned from their questioning. One thing that both of them should learn, however, but it’s probably too late: HUMILITY
Posted by: A. Halsey | April 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Let me give you an idea of what elitist is. it is standing on the stage and brushing yourself off. I can’t understand how this guy thinks that his past is going to go away by doing something comical like that. If the republicans had somebody in the audience with a camera, they should use that in a campaign add saying something like here’s Obama trying to get rid of his past the only way he can, acting as though it’s just lint on his suit. Boy! are they going to eat this guy alive if he gets to the general election. If he had a hard time last night, he hasn’t seen anything yet.
Posted by: James France | April 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
ABC held Obama’s feet to the fire, maybe rightly so. He is a Presidential candidate. But, it would have been fair had they done the same to Clinton.
I ASK ALL YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS: Wouldn’t it had been fair if Clinbton had been asked about Mark Penn, her associations with the Columbian Government, Her “screw em” comment about white working class voters in 1995 and more? What happened to being fair?
Posted by: Democrats United | April 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Obama refused to get in the mud with ABC and Hillary. I notice that Bill likes it though. Oh yea, where did George use to work??
Perhaps if they would not pay these media darlings so much they would act like real reporters instaed of look at me. Ain’t I smart.
Hiallary, Bill and ABC will tank
Posted by: Thinking | April 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Hey! They asked Obama a hard question.
That’s NO FAIR !
Posted by: Al | April 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
The only thing I learned last night…I’ll never vote for a Clinton. Issues? Please…I couldn’t care less what Wright says…it’s when the candidate themselves lies that I take notice (sniper fire, anyone?)
Old politics is sooooo 1990′s. Along with pessimistic optimism and pants suits. Obama certainly brings out the bigotry and fear-mongering in America, that’s for sure. But who else could have survived all this onslaught and still be on top in the polls, states won, popular vote, and energized youth? He is the future, any way you look at it. That’s why I know he’s the right person for the job.
Posted by: Bk | April 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
No whining? No winning either!!!!
Posted by: Chukkal | April 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Has Bill Clinton done anything BUT whine over the past 15 months?
Posted by: Adam J. | April 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
“Lapel pins”? Give me a break. That debate last night was idiotic. Fifty minutes devoted to slapping around Obama over nonsense. Stephanopolis is still clearly in the Clintons’ employ and Charles Gibson is simply a douchebag.
Posted by: Tim Doyle | April 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Don’t fall for it people, what Bill and Hillary are now trying to do. She is now trying to appeal to the heart strings of the sandwich generation. Well, guess what, I am part of the sandwich generation and I have been able to take care of my mother rather successfully and operate a business. I am a woman and a business owner. She does not know what it is like taking care of your elderly parent, especially when they have had strokes and other problems. Looks like her mother is just fine and not in a nursing home, if her mother does go in a nursing home – they will have enough money to give her great care. Does she really know how much it is a financially? No, because she has enough money.
She does not know what is like to be a business owner. She is going to destroy a lot of businesses, because of her ideas. She is for the big corporations not the little guys that are struggling. If she would give up her salary, then maybe she would understand how hard it is financially. Please people in Philadelphia, don’t vote for her.
Posted by: vuwp | April 17, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Hillary doesn’t whine? Who was it who said: “Why do you always pick on me first?” in one of the debates.
A flag pin does not make one patriotic or a good American. Hillary Clinton does not wear one, neither did any of the moderators in the ABC debate. To have to ask or even answer that question is completely assinine.
Posted by: Elaine | April 17, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Mr Clinton you are certainly no Ronald Reagan. Mrs Clinton you are certainly no Nancy Reagan.
Posted by: Terry | April 17, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama never likes to answer any hard and real questions. Tou are know bt the company you keep. Amen
Posted by: Ron & June Hart | April 17, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Looks like ABC (and Drudge for headlining this) is part of Operation Chaos.
Posted by: Ralph | April 17, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
During the last night debate, anyone can see the level of experience and domain knowledge Hillary possesses. Obama replies to all his controversies were pathetic, although the metaphors were nice, they do lack facts.
I still believe that Obama will kneel to the Islamist fanatics (Shia or Sunni).
Where I come from we have an old saying: ”
You cannot domesticate a wolf”
The Patriot
Posted by: Tony | April 17, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
The Clintons don’t need dirt to make mud. They are the lowest of the low!!!!! They have taken politics to a new low. THEY CAN’T TOLERATE THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING….IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO WATCH HER AND DESPERATE CAMPAIGN IMPLODING!!!!!!
Posted by: Bonnie | April 17, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Another vote for Election Chaos!!! LOL
Posted by: Chiser | April 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Bill, give us a break. How many times has she shed tears for effect.
She and Bill have elevated negative campaigning to an art form. Who was it that said we are being picked on from a VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!
They have both done their share of poor little owe, me, quit picking on me. We have seen it in the 90′s and are not buying it now.
Posted by: scott jeffries | April 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Whine? Sen Clinton has been practically shrill the past 15 months!
Posted by: gk | April 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Many of Obama’s supporters “worked their fingers to the bone” posting remarks of blame against ABC, the moderators, Senator Clinton and the questions asked. Bet their key pads are all bloody today. Anyway, Senator Obama certainly did not look or talk PRESIDENTIAL last night and was whining today when speaking to supporters. On the other side, Clinton answered questions more thoroughly and completely.
OBAMA SUPPORTERS—SHUT THE&*&) UP.
Posted by: Mary | April 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I can’t believe this “Crying Game” that Obama and his followers are playing. What would they do if they got in a general election? Why doesn’t he just drop out if he can’t take it?
Posted by: lois | April 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I thought Obama handled him self very well.He didnt get into as dirty debate with her.He has more class then she ever will.What is wrong with saying Foster they took his live away from him.You know as well as I do they are guilty,,,
Posted by: h | April 17, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I’m glad for a change that the media is asking tougher questions. I think ABC did a great job on moderating the debate. Why should the candidates get softball questions? Everything is about character – the lack of character gives me no confidence in the POTUS.
Posted by: Frustrated Voter | April 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
It’s disingenuous to complain about an anti-Obama slant to last night’s debate considering the slamming Clinton’s taken from the media heretofore.
Posted by: David Kraus | April 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I thought the debate was reasonably fair and I don’t understand why people are complaining about it so much. I get the feeling Obama supporters can’t take a single bit of criticism about their “Superstar.”
Posted by: Lawrence kreger | April 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
If you cared about the Democratic party, you should not have let Moveon.org buy to to recreate 68. This is going to turn out the same as when the silent majority elected Nixon.
Haven’t you figured out that the issues are mostly fiction? 47 million uninsured is a fake number and global warming is a hoax. Econoic trouble is greatly exaggerated.
Posted by: Claire Solt | April 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
The questions raised last night regarding Clinton’s Bosnia comments and Obama’s personal associations are VERY valid questions. The President holds the highest office in the nation and character IS an issue.
Posted by: Nancy | April 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
It is amazing how many anti-woman posters there are in here. Obama finally gets a tiny taste of what every other candidate gets, including HRC, and you all whine that he wasn’t treated fairly. How about when they ask Chelsea about Monica L. at every stop?
Posted by: Al | April 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Bonnie,
Get over it! Obviously you are jealous and sour because you could not event dream of the accomplishment Hilary logged as a female. Take a walk bonnie, smell some flowers and cast your vote to Hillary or big Mac.
The Patriot
Posted by: Tony | April 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY YEARS OF LYING TO OUR FACES, I CANT STAND TO LOOK AT THE BILLARIES.THERE SICKENING TO WATCH.SHE ISN”T GOING TO TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS.YEA RIGHT!SHE IS A SOCIALIST AND SHE IS GOING TO KILL US WITH TAXES.WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE CRIMINAL MEXACINS ? WE ARE!ALONG WITH THERE AMNESTY,AND EVERYTHING THEY CAN STEAL.BOTH SOUNDED LIKE REPUBLICANS,INVADING PAKASTAN,AFGANASTAN. THEN THEY TURN THERE BACKS ON THE TROOPS AGAIN,AND BLAME SOMEONE ELSE.
Posted by: Michael Coleman | April 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Lieing clintons suck.
Posted by: Naleeb | April 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Having watched our two candidates lat night, I think they will BOTH lose to McCain- even though he is so old. GORE is the only answer– he WON the popular vote in 2000- if he had moved to Florida after that, my state would have eleced him as governor. SUPERDELEGATES- HELP! Lets get behind GORE as the nominee- he is proven, now a Nobel prize winner– only the superdelegates can save the nomination and the white house. HELLO– calling Superdelegates..
Posted by: Jorge Rodriquez | April 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Having watched our two candidates lat night, I think they will BOTH lose to McCain- even though he is so old. GORE is the only answer– he WON the popular vote in 2000- if he had moved to Florida after that, my state would have eleced him as governor. SUPERDELEGATES- HELP! Lets get behind GORE as the nominee- he is proven, now a Nobel prize winner– only the superdelegates can save the nomination and the white house. HELLO– calling Superdelegates..
Posted by: Jorge Rodriquez | April 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Read the MoveOn instructions to attack ABC. See the tenor of the Obama supporters and the language. Do you not see the bullies? How dumb are we?
“She was great because she showed the strength and leadership and knowledge of the issues that is very important to the next president”
Precisely right, President Clinton. Precisely right.
But tell her, No We Won’t. If not Hillary, then McCain.
Say NO to Thugs.
Posted by: len | April 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
To all the people who are claiming Obama has so much dirty laundry that’s coming out….have you noticed that almost all of it is nothing more than attacks on him for things that were said by people he knows or has met casually? And beyond that, the only “dirty laundry” is issues over flag pins, or a poor choice of words when he made the “bitter” comments. These are not substantive problems.
Posted by: sean | April 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I think Bill is developing amnesia or worse. I remember her whining quite a bit after a few debates she didn’t like.
Posted by: mdanesi | April 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
This maybe the only article that actually “praises” Mrs Clinton post ABC debacle last night…and of course it comes from ABC news itself. The debate last night was shameful for it’s trivialness and even more shameful on Mrs Clinton for constantly playing old politics and having to resort to attacks and delighting in the mundane. Mr Obama rose above all of that in the line of fire and refused to even play in the same arena, instead trying to refocus on what real Americans want…unity, positivity, issues worked out. Last night I made up mt mind finally, and it is Obama.
Posted by: TOele | April 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
whats funny is watching the obama zombies when obama doesnt know how to explain things. what is funny is how the man spent 10 years in a racist church and not realize it. until it explodes in his face. whats funny is his amnesty plan for illegal immigrants. what is funny is the man is only 50% african american, but pushes it in towns domnated with african americans and yes i am one. but i will vote for none of the above.
Posted by: MARSHALL | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
The Dems have done it again. Managed to get two morons into the primary and watch them destroy one another, while McCain sits back and smokes a cigar. One day you Dems will learn that these far left wackos will not win you general elections. But for now, keep on supporting these crazies while the Republicans eat your lunch in the general. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Tim | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
BFD! So Hilly thinks she won the debate. She won alright because her stoolie Georgie Porgie was giving her all the breaks. It was so obvious.I’m surprised that ugly James Carville wasn’t moderating. He is another CLinton henchman. She got to speak first, and then the moderators started slinging sh–! Why didn’t the moderators ask Hilly about her pastor and her shady dealings? It wasn’t a debate. There was barely any discussing of the issues at hand concerning America. What a ruse. What a ploy! It just tells me that the Clintons will do anything, pay anybody, promise anything to get people to help them win. Bill is a has-been. Talk about being goofy! I’m surprised he still keeps his pants on. I’m also surprised that Hilly and Elton John wore different pantsuitsat their fundraiser. I have never disliked someone so much as I despise Hillary and Bill. I cannot believe the American public is that dumb to fall for the Clinton’s pathological lying! They would lie to Jesus Christ! I have no respect for the Clintons and their low life dealings. I would be ashamed to have them in the White House again. And I am a senior citizen, female, married and white. This tells me that not all of the senior citizens are voting for Hilly. Obama has more honesty and character about him than the Clintons would ever dream of having. Like the “BOSS” says-Obama is head and shoulders above the rest! Obama ’08
Posted by: CS3539 | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
After the last few weeks, I cant’ imagine anyone with functioning eyes or ears, or a modicum of sense supporting Hillary. Her support seems strongest among those who respond to an ideal Hillary and not the real woman. These support project all their hopes and all their pain, all their disappointments and real and imagined hurt and believe that Hillary will take their pain and make their lives right. There’s no talking to these folks, their support is irrational and no evidence to the contrary can tarnish the icon they made of her. What’s extraordinary is how Hillary takes this for granted, and how open her contempt is for those who have, for better or for worse, invested so much in her. I’ve come to the point where I have only two ways to understand Hillary (and Bill, too). Her ambition has stripped her of all humanity, or it’s made her deranged. (And, I mean this literally.)
Posted by: rwordplay | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
I once thought it was a great idea to have the youth more involved in the political process but their choice that is Obama tells a different story. You’d all do the country a favor and stick to frat parties, smoking pot, and leaving the electoral process to people who know what they are doing. People who are not moved by simple emotion but believe substance matters. In the youth world the latest fashion and I-Pod tells alot about their objectivity. Now you all go buy a keg and do America a favor and don’t vote unless you take the time to get informed. This isn’t a rock concert it is our country’s future!
Posted by: Realist | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Of course Clinton is happy, the moderators spent the first 40 minutes of the debate in the gossip column. It was the worst debate (as per the hosting) yet.
Posted by: Brad In Tampa | April 17, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Vince Foster was unavailable for comment
Posted by: Wade | April 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
I seem to recall lots of Obama supporters telling Clinton supporters to stop whining when the previous debates on CNN and MSNBC were clearly biased in favor of Obama. Now that the shoe is in the other foot, they are all crying and complaining. At least Hillary was able to hold her own when she was being attacked. Obama is such a wimp.
Posted by: Suzanne | April 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
O’Bumma…. A terrorist sympathizer for President! He’ll make George W. Bush look like FDR.
Posted by: Nathan | April 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
It looked like Obama just couldn’t get it quite figured out last night. Now the Obama supporters are a wee bit cranky today. I turned it off after his responce to gun control. That is probably not going to set well with a lot of Americans.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Way to go Hillary! Obama last night made George Bush Jr.’s debate performance’s look elegant!
Posted by: John in Cape May | April 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Asking Obama a questions that was not on his teleprompter is just not fair.
Posted by: Al | April 17, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
SHAME on anyone in this country who STILL believes ANYTHING Hilliary or Bill say. THEY have taken politics down to the level it’s at.
Posted by: MaverickCoast | April 17, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
“Stop asking me questions about the people I know! Don’t you know who I am?” – Barack Obama
Posted by: Louis Jacinto | April 17, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Having watched our two candidates last night, I think they will BOTH lose to McCain- even though he is so old. GORE is the only answer– he WON the popular vote in 2000- if he had moved to Florida after that, my state would have elected him as governor. SUPERDELEGATES- HELP! Lets get behind GORE as the nominee- he is proven vote getter, now a Nobel prize winner– only the superdelegates can save the nomination and the white house. HELLO– calling Superdelegates….
Posted by: Jorge Rodriquez | April 17, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.
Posted by: Al | April 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Bill Clinton is a disgusting human being. His behavior is certainly not what one would expect from a former president.
It would have been admirable if he had shown a fraction of this concern and protectiveness toward Hillary earlier instead of having numerous sordid affairs.
Posted by: Liz | April 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
This is Great.. Obama got grilled by ABC just like a Republican on the typical liberal media outlets.. Wah Wah…
Then if he wants to be President he needs to be more attentive.. Spent 20 years admiring a man and says “heartfelt”.. I didn’t know that’s really how he believed… If he gets elected the USA will be FUBAR..ed
Lastly, if he thinks the Buck Stops Here at the Presidency..then no question should be too hard or have the ability to stump… What he’s meaning is.. I’m powerful and it’s none of your business. If he gets elected, well you can just imagine what his Arrogance will become..
Posted by: Smooch | April 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Has Bill Clinton been in a coma for the last four months? Hillary’s done nothing but whine. Remeber the Saturday Night Live skit that she brought up everyday for a month. “See, see, the press is easier on Obama!” Go back to sleep Old Man River. You and your crusty old wife are about to take early retirement.
Posted by: JJ | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
YOU DID GOOD ABC!! BRAVO!! AND KUDOS TO CHARLIE GIBSON AND GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS! LET OBAMA FANS WHINE, THEY USUALLY DO WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE STAMMERS AND STUTTERS AND REFUSES TO ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS. HE STILL HASN’T ANSWERED THEM!! HILLARY CLINTON WAS IN COMMAND. SHE HAD THE ANSWERS! SHE GETS IT! THANKS AGAIN ABC FOR HAVING THE COURAGE THAT THE MSM HAS BEEN SORELY LACKING! GO HILLARY!
Posted by: nurseratchet | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I came away with one conclusion from the debate last night.
The Democrats are doomed. I don’t mean just in trouble, I mean writhing in the fires of hell in eternal damnation kind of doomed.
Can you say “McCain Administration”? You’ll be saying it a lot after November.
Tell Your Mama I Said No Obama
Posted by: Bill Chicago | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Hillary thinks the people from Pennsylvania are not bright. She was in her element with the sleazy debate topics. The people deserved better.
Posted by: B301 | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
The shining moment of the debate adn aftermath, after all the idiotic and biased focus/attack on Obama…….it proved that Obama is far more interesting and IS the front runner.
Hillary who?
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
There was a child in the apartment complex down the street who fell of his bike and scraped his knee. We need to seize all the children within a five-mile-radius to prevent this from ever happening again. Any Texas law enforcement agents available?
Posted by: Blind Eye to Real Issues | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I am a black woman and I would never EVER vote for one of these turds..even if one is a woman and one is black. They are both socialists, only difference is one is young inexperienced and pretty, and the other is old, run into the ground and butt ugly.
Posted by: Janet Thomas | April 17, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
The Obama supporters have not let up all day, how many of you are there? How much are you being paid? How do you get your talking points for the day? This is the negative type of campaigning that St. Obama is against, or is he not? Obama lost yesterday, he looked weak and startled. I do hope that SNL does a skit, it will be hilarious.
Posted by: svsolis | April 17, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I sure watched a different debate from several of the commentors. The questions were inane but neither candidate excelled. How can ANYONE say Hillary did excellent???? I sure must have missed something….not sure what.
I could care less about who wins the nomination as I’ll vote McCain in November but I like to follow politics so I watched the debate. Waste of a good 2 hours.
Posted by: juanita | April 17, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
well, maybe SNL will do a skit. I hoipe they do.
Perhaps also Gibson and Stephanopolis will also come off the payroll of TMZ.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
well, maybe SNL will do a skit. I hoipe they do.
Perhaps also Gibson and Stephanopolis will also come off the payroll of TMZ.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I hate ABC and Disney!
It’s time to bring out all the old racist Disney cartoons so today’s young generation can see who ABC/Disney really are.
Asking a US Senator is he Patriotic?
I couldn’t believ it. They think he’s a terrorist.
Posted by: elwood cordery | April 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Having watched our two candidates last night, I think they will BOTH lose to McCain- even though he is so old. GORE is the only answer– he WON the popular vote in 2000- if he had moved to Florida after that, my state would have elected him as governor. SUPERDELEGATES- HELP! Lets get behind GORE as the nominee- he is proven vote getter, now a Nobel prize winner– only the superdelegates can save the nomination and the white house. HELLO– calling Superdelegates….
Posted by: Jorge Rodriquez | April 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
I believe Bill meant to say CORRUPT.
Politics is a CORRUPT SPORT. Afterall no one knows that better from the Clintons who made over a 100 million, half of it unaccounted for, And heavens know what other deals happen under the table.
thats why they are fighting so hard to get back to the Whitehouse, corruption is big business.And dont forget they clean up nicely by giving out PARDONS.
Obama 08 like he said ” you can’t send the same people back and expect a different result.
Posted by: are-voters-sukers | April 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Many superdeligates also watched the debate. They are going to make up their minds soon. Winning or lossing the debate is really not the point. At this point, democrats are nervous enough, they will penalize the one who is just even slightly negative. Do you know whom they will panelize this time?
Posted by: catiger | April 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hats off to Obama and Clinton. Thanks to all of this imatture BS, they both are actually making a lame-duck like McCain look somewhat palletable as a presidential candidate?
And why is it that so many lefties fear the government when a republican is in power, and then cheer for its expansion when a democrat is in power?? seems kind of.. well… naive, if you ask me.
Posted by: Dis Gusted | April 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Bill Clinton is right on the money. When Hillary is getting beaten up day in and day out, none of you say a word. But when Obama is asked some tough questions, the entire internet goes into a frenzy.
Posted by: James | April 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Send that empty suit to the cleaners Hillary!
Posted by: Mack | April 17, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
as a life long dem. i hope that all of you so called educated upper middle class voters get exactly what you want. an obama nomination. you snot nosed punks arent even old enough to recall the 90′s. things were good under bill clinton, but you are all a bunch of backstabbing ingrates. clinton pulled us out of the hole that old man bush had gotton us into. the economy was terrible. but none of you can see that. alot of the dems. have no honor or code. you are just like bill (judas) richardson or teddy (drown um dead) kennedy. i believe you will get your way. and it will cost our great country 4 more years of neocon rule under mcshame and lieberliar. higher fuel costs, higher food costs, no health care for our families and most likely 4000 more dead heros. i did not think it possible, but we have successfully blundered a slam dunk election. remember, dubya was suppose to be a uniter like obama, very similiar. god bless america, we will need it.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
But your college students said that you would unite the republicans and democrats. you mean the republicans are actually going to play tough? oh dear. when did you learn this?
Posted by: tony | April 17, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
worse debate ever I would get my news from CNN Gibson and George worse journalist ever I guest they are still on the Clintons payroll to you I say (Not this time)!!!
Posted by: neta | April 17, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I’m not ready to vote for someone who didn’t see The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show!
Posted by: Louis Jacinto | April 17, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
ABC, you got the ratings you wanted, by putting forward those petty questions as a lead, but you failed your duty to the USA by not revealing to the citizen viewer any real information about where the canditates stand on important issues, such as job growth ideas, social security, health insurance.
Shame on you, ABC. You owe your country more than hight ratings.
Posted by: Shirley Hackert | April 17, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
My real concern is that if this race continues, to win, Clinton would have to appeal to the core of dems. She can afford to take hardline policy because she does not care about November. This drives Obama to the same direction. In the end, their policies could be too liberal.
Posted by: catiger | April 17, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I think that Obama was pretty much knocked over the left field fence last night.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 17, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
This quote fits Hillary: If you can convince them, confuse them.
Posted by: Grace | April 17, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
This quote fits Hillary: If you can convince them, confuse them.
Posted by: Grace | April 17, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Chuck Spears believes in freedom of speech, but only if it is his speach. He must be a republican.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
James – the reason why the internet freaks out with Obama gets hit hard — many of his supporters are racist. Yes. They believe that blacks should be shielded from competition – even really smart ones like Obama. They say, “Hlllary is trying to kneecap the first viable black candidate” but then they deny that part of his appeal is racial. They are really playing race here: Obama is a fragile, but really nice black guy. Give him a break. Don’t you like this really nice black guy? We should only attack the loudmouth black guys like Sharpton and Jackson….blah blah blah .
Posted by: tony | April 17, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Oh! another item to add–Hillary and Billy have more baggage than Samsonite. I think that is Hillylarius!
Posted by: CS3539 | April 17, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Would whoever it is please stop tickling the ex-president. He’s going to have an effing coronary if you don’t stop. That or another impeachment scandal.
Posted by: Monstertron | April 17, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
You mean except last week when she was whining about media bias?
Posted by: Jeff | April 17, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
ABC,
I think that this debate will go down as the first one that finally did not pander to Obama, and in which the truth about character was finally addressed despite protest from the public.
The fact is the media has been very lax on Obama and very harsh on Clinton. This debate addressed lies/mistakes made by both candidates – not just Obama. And yet because for once because it was BALANCED it is being claimed that it was slanted against Obama.
Mark my word. This debate will be remembered as the first time the media gave a balanced view of Obama vs Clinton. Expect from hereon that others will follow suit.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
It is to be expected from Obama. Look, he disses Small-Town America and his reverend friend spews his rage at America. He goes with wife to an affair (this is divulged at Rezko trial) hosted by Rezko and attended by MidEast person who is not welcome in America and confronting serious charges from France. Then, we begin to hear about Weather Underground. How much can we voters take, especially we democratic voters.
Posted by: benvictor | April 17, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
***********This quote fits Hillary: If you can’t convince them, confuse them.***********
Posted by: Grace | April 17, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
WHY DOES ANY NEWS MEDIA WASTE ITS VIRTUAL OR PAPER SPACE ON AN EX-PRESIDENT’S SATIRE, COMEDY & BITTER COMMENTS WHO LONG AGO LEFT HIS LEGACY SPILLED ON THE CARPETS OF THE OVAL OFFICE and now unfortunately seeks the stage again in our minds, desperately thru his wife’s strategically planned run for the White House to help repair his own failings. IT’S SAD ENOUGH A STORY WITHOUT BEING ENABLED BY THE MEDIA…
Posted by: TRUTHradar | April 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
When its all said and done REALITY will set in and show the Billarys lost 11 states in a row.. and CAN NEVER catch his delegate count even if they win all the remaining states by 60%.
they need close to 80% plus for all the states ..and we know thats not going to happen.
Much ado about nothing , the only Whitehouse they will be moving to is located at 1600 Arkansas.
Obama 08 where the citizens now have a voice.
Posted by: denial make sucker | April 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
if obama can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Posted by: macdarty | April 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
lol — these posts are FUNNY. obama’s 20 something crowd is so mad – that it is clear he lost. lol. poor obambi. everyone doesnt worship the lord obama. deal with it.
Posted by: tony | April 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
First of all, to all the people who say things like, “Bill Clinton Raped Me”, you need to knock that stuff off! That is a terrible thing to say, and it does not belong in this discussion. Hillary has never complained like Obama does, end of story! You Obama supporters would believe almost anything that came out of his mouth, and most of it is lies. I am so glad that I voted for Hillary! Hillary, your AWESOME!! Hillary 08!!
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
As far as the flag pins no one last night had on a flag pin not even george and gibson and the flag pins are made in china why give money to china!
Posted by: neta | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
What will take for some people to see that Obama is nothing but a hassler unfortunatelly is working so far. I never thought the prayer of his bigot pastor will be heard “goddamn America” because that is exactly what we get if gets elected. He may get his wish to win the nomination but this voter will wright Hillary’s name in november, and any aspirations he has for the white house they will be gone.
Posted by: gus | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Stepf or is it stapf infectalotofus, and charlie dont even qualify for a do over. clinton wannabes……they wasted alotta peoples time. That was such a useless worthless waste of everyones time. Charlie you’ll NEVER get me watchin you for any program. You could be the guy on the emergency alert channel and i’m gonna have to ask my neighbor about national emergencies. MORONS.
Posted by: t.d. | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
What will take for some people to see that Obama is nothing but a hassler unfortunatelly is working so far. I never thought the prayer of his bigot pastor will be heard “goddamn America” because that is exactly what we get if gets elected. He may get his wish to win the nomination but this voter will wright Hillary’s name in november, and any aspirations he has for the white house they will be gone.
Posted by: gus | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
hilary did good in the debate. but it was a tabloid debate. all fake issues.
my biggest objection was the dems calling Mcain a patriot and a hero. was mcain patriotic when he voted against martin luther king day? Did they call Mcain a hero during the keating scandel (When he was busted for taking BRIBES from defense contractors)? or was he a hero for repeatedly crashing multimillion dollar fighter aircraft? or was it for getting shot down in vietnam and making propaganda tapes for the enemy? if his capture by the viet kong so bad how come he didnt leave when he could? maybe he was in too cozy with the viet kong. dont elect the manturian candidate!
Posted by: ginsu | April 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Way to go Bill, pat the right wing mouthpieces George and Charlie on the back. “Good job guys.” By the way, Hillary has not whined about her treatment by the media. In my opinion, it’s okay for her criticize the media’s treatment of her campaign if she feels that way, but don’t lie and say that she hasn’t.
Posted by: Julie | April 17, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
WHY ISN’T OBAMBI MAKING A POLICY SPEECH TODAY? MAYBE HE COULD GIVE A SPEECH IN PHILADELPHIA ON THE NEED TO DISCUSS DECORUM IN THE MEDIA….AND THEN THE MEDIA CAN ALL APOLOGIZE AND SAY HOW GREAT THE SPEECH WAS — RIVALING THE “I HAVE A DREAM” SPEECH AND THE GETTYSBURG ADDRESS.
Posted by: tony | April 17, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
What we are all suffering from right now is candidate fatigue. We are just seeing too much from these two cobras, circling each other in a ritualistic fatal dance to political and social final death.
Cobras will use any and all tricks available to beat the other ivy-leaguer – Yale v Harvard v Naval Academy.
Posted by: Lance | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I think Bill Clinton has a short attention span if he doesn’t believe Hillary has whined about things. Was she not complaining about being criticized just because she is a woman? I had intended at one time to vote for Clinton, but I won’t anymore. And I do agree that ABC News did a poor job not only with the questions it asked, but allowing George S. to be a moderator. He should have recused himself. I teach journalism, and even my first year students were talking about how unfair that seemed.
If Hillary steals the nomination, I am and many other leaning Democrats I’ve talked to intend to vote for McCain.
Posted by: Ian C. Storey | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hillary enjoyed being in the sewage, made possible by Charles Gilbert. She did state this is where it “becomes fun”. Her “glo” is only temporary. She will continue to lose and the superdelegates are not going to side with her.
For money, ABC and the mass media in general, desire to extend this sewage fest, something Hillary is predisposed to do, a victim of the Republican attack machine.
Obama was a gentleman, exactly what Hillary did not want him to be during the debate.
Hillary had no answer for Obama’s response that Bill Clinton pardon two Weather Underground persons. She don’t seem to realize that the more she attacks with nastiness, the stronger Obama becomes. She cannot be trusted to be the VP.
It’s over for Hillary. It’s over for the “60% Group” who support her. This was her last hurrah. Pennsylvania results are going to shock Hillary on Tuesday.
Posted by: T West | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hillary was fantastic last night! Why won’t anyone confront Obama on Larry Sinclair’s allegations?
Posted by: Chris | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
truthradar, what a joke you are, when clinton left office, he had a 60% approval rating, the debt. was under control, we had a surplus of money for the first time in decades. people were working and america was looked up too. You must be one of those educated middle class ive been reading about. what a joke that is. lots of education and no common sense. must be a republican.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Meant to say, she “has” whined.
Posted by: Julie | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hillary couldn’t win on the merits of her positions on the issues. So, now her only resort is to rely on 2 BOOBS (georgie and charlie)in an attempt to perk up her ratings.
Hillary, it’ll take more than two boobs to get you into the white house again.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
How dare anyone question the Messiah Obama! How dare one take the Lord’s name in vain!
People, Obama is the destiny of our country. No one should be permitted to stain his holy name.
SIEG HEIL, MEIN FUHRER!
Posted by: Jeremy | April 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Hey al – you go ahead and vote for mccain. too bad you won’t suffer the consequences because there’s no chance he can win. There ain’t too many folks out here who 1 – want their kids killed in Iraq 2 – can afford the kind of health insurance plan he’s proposing 3 – can survive under his Bush economic policy. Poor al, you’ll just have to make do with reaping the benefits of an Obama administration.
Posted by: countingcrows | April 17, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Charles Gibson asked Obama about why he doesn’t wear a lapel pin of the US flag (in an effort I suppose to flush out if he is in fact unpatriotic).
Well Charles, I have a response for you.
You want to know what’s unpatriotic:
Attending pro-NAFTA meetings under the Clinton administration to push help push through an unfair trade deal (at the expense of our good Pennsylvanian jobs), that’s unpatriotic!
Having a chief strategist that’s secretly working with a foreign government to push through yet another trade deal (CAFTA) while telling the american people that you OPPOSE CAFTA, that’s unpatriotic!
Having your husband (Bill Clinton) accept $800,000 from a foreign government (Columbia) to get that same trade deal pushed through congress, that’s unpatriotic!
Explaining why it’s permissible to court ELECTED (pledged) delegates –delegates representing the will of the people who have already (in good conscience) voted– in order to have them switch their pledge and in so doing, completely undermining our democratic process, that’s unpatriotic!
Visiting a right-wing (republican) newspaper (the Pittsburgh Tribune Review which is owned by a man (Richard Mellon Scaife) who sponsored an investigation into your (Mrs. Clinton) involvement in the death of deputy white house counsel Vince Foster) in order to have one of their trained minions *ASK* you if you would have left the rev. Wright’s church, that’s unpatriotic!
Proclaiming that the caucus voting process is undemocratic and doesn’t “make much sense” because your campaign’s poor organizational skills lost most of them, that’s unpatriotic!
Talking about southern white people and telling your husband to “screw em”, that’s unpatriotic!
And finally… attacking a fellow democrat (Obama, who refused to attack you last night because he truly cares about the Democratic party and ultimately our great nation) and instead praising your real adversary (John McCain) and in the process adopting the doctrine of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, THAT’S UNPATRIOTIC!!!
And yet… Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos did not see it fit and relevant to ask about even ONE of these things regarding patriotism??? That is truly astonishing!
I’m embarrassed and ashamed about what ABC news has become!
All I can say Hillary is that your blind and destructive ambition to win at all costs is what will ultimately be your undoing!
Posted by: Danny99 | April 17, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
The Clintons want power back. Not to help Americans,but to be worshipped like Roman Emperors,bestowing jobs and perks to the faithful.They crave the opium of deference and cowering sycophants surrounding the court. Obama seeks the Presidency to help all the American people.The Republicans will also do anything to protect their gravy train.God help us all.
Posted by: Linda Patterson | April 17, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
As far as the flag pins no one last night had on a flag pin not even george and gibson and the flag pins are made in china why give money to china!
Posted by: neta | Apr 17, 2008 7:18:36 PM
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Here too why that flag pin question was beyond retarded. thats like telling someone I DONT SEE A CROSS AROUND YOUR NECK so I take it you are for SATAN.
Posted by: cindy32 | April 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Barack Obama sure tap danced around his associations with William Ayers during the debates. Obama is as complicit as Reverend Wright hates Jews. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was Muslim fundamentalist tool fool.
Obama’s hidden agenda will really get exposure when the Republicans go to work on him. I can’t to met the real Obama.
Posted by: appul | April 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
One of the posters JOHN made a good point Barrack Hussien Osma Obomer the Islamic Manchurian candidate can’t put a real sentence together unless it’s on a Teleprompter! Do you ever look at the crowd behind him that is paid for by Obomer are all looking at their watch, looking at their feet, and can’t wait to get off stage, and the clap on que when the apluase light comes on? it’s called rent a mob! He now buses Bitter Middle America white people to his rallies, 35% of his audience is paid to show up! don’t be fooled by a ZERO political half American, half Black, half Muslim man with no experience at anything he has no resume, he would be like hiring a dog catcher to run Microsoft!!Think asbout the nukes that he would control I said enough!!!
Posted by: Ashamed | April 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Bill Clinton has become a joke
Posted by: Jacob | April 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Better idea! AL GORE– can the Superdelegates please CALL THIS GUY? Gore should be our nominee– AL GORE- who won once before– AL GORE for PRESIDENT. Our SUPERDELEGATES can get this done.
Posted by: Alicia | April 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
“Obama seeks the Presidency to help all the American people.”
this is the funniest thing I’ve read in my life LMAO
I really hope you’re a paid Obama campaigner, because if not you are the dumbest creature on earth.
SEIG HEIL, MEIN FUHRER OBAMA
Posted by: Jeremy | April 17, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Hillary has been dragged through the mud by the media and she is still standing…she is a fighter to the core and I am proud of her and voted for her.
Posted by: Two-cats | April 17, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
WELL SAID BILL CLINTON, LIKE YOU I WATCHED THE DEBATE AND SAW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED NOT WHAT THE OBAMA DREAMERS WANT TO THINK HAPPENED.
HE ERRED AND AAAHED SO MANY TIMES I ACTUALLY FELT SORRY FOR HIM. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I QUITE ENJOYED WATCHING HIM GET CAUGHT UP IN HIS LIES.
POOR BABY, TODAY HE IS BAD MOUTHING HILLARY HE OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF, HER PLAN WAS SUPERB AND ONCE AGAIN SHE PROVED SHE WILL BE READY ON DAY ONE.
WE KNOW WHO SHE IS WE HAVE SEEN ALL THE DEBATES TEARING HER TO SHREDS.
I AM DELIGHTED THAT ABC HAD THE B==LS TO ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS AND LET US SEE HOW HE LIES ON NATIONAL TV.
TOO BAD THE REST OF THE MEDIA HAVE NOT BEEN AS HONEST AS ABC.
Posted by: Evista | April 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Hillary trounced Obama in the debate.
Obama was provided every opportunity to express his position and counter Clinton. Blaming the moderator’s questions is ridiculous.
Posted by: Christopher Davis | April 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
It will be all over soon. Why!!REALITY will set in and show the Billarys lost 11 states in a row.. and CAN NEVER catch his delegate count even if they win all the remaining states by 60%.
they need close to 80% plus for all the states ..and we know thats not going to happen.
Much ado about nothing , the only Whitehouse they will be moving to is located at 1600 Arkansas.
Obama 08 where million rise up.
Posted by: boat-cruise-on-denial | April 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
doesnt anyone find it a bit odd that barry wont wear a flag pin, but when he gives us his greater than thou speach on race, he has 8 american flags behind him. what a fraud. he is the black joe lieberman.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
We all LOVED President Clinton when he was in office! I stood up for President Clinton when he had his indiscretion with his intern to every smug Republican I knew. We ALL did. Now your trashing the man?! How hypocritical of my democrat brothers. I am ashamed of you all.
Posted by: BlueDog | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
we do not need al gore or one more year of clinton or bush in the white house.
We’ve had a clinton or bush on the ticket since 1980.
I thought we abandoned monarchy
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Wish I could remember who wrote this comment because it is the best of the blogs…Obama could have showed up at the debate drunk, puked on his shirt, and everyone would stand up and applaud!! GET REAL DEMOCRATS!! OBAMA CAN’T GET THE BIG NUMBER TO WIN IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: fairelection08 | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
You Obamabots crack me up. If he weren’t in the picture you’d be supporting and defending the Clintons 100%. Now that you have a new romance, you’ve kicked your beloved Clintons to the curb.
Posted by: Dave B | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Vote for Obama? Sorry, I haven’t done anything trendy since 1975!
Posted by: Louis Jacinto | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
If it snows in Denver during their convention,they’ll nominate Gore.
Posted by: Tom Dockery | April 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Wow! Obama this, Hillary that…Operation Chaos is working!! I love it.
Posted by: BillofRights | April 17, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
She may not be whining because she didn’t really want to talk about real issues. I just made my largest donation to Obama’s campaign because of Bill Clinton’s statement. Keep it coming, Bill. We now have a movement to donate money to Obama every time you speak on behalf of Hillary. It’s sort of like having a drinking contest without alcohol.
Posted by: lcmartin | April 17, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
even the republicans are shaking their head, wondering what to do with Mccain.
so all you democrats threatening to vote mccain if obama should be the nominee should please stop whinning and shut up already, do as you wish and stop complaining, loosers.
mama hill will live to run again, someday, kids.
Posted by: phyllis | April 17, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Waittt a minute. No Hillary whining?? Need we flashback to a certain debate where Hillary whined “Why do I always have to get the first question?”
Posted by: marylandmb | April 17, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
GO HILLARY…GO GO GO GO! WIN IN 2008!
Posted by: Tracy | April 17, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
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Obama when he was in the court house as a Attorney or teaching law at the university.. is like nite and day when i see him now on TV.
In those environment he did speak with ease and interact with the various parties without pause or appearing to stutter.
No question he is watching carefully on what he says,No room for error , one slip up and you know the rest.
Posted by: Emma38 | April 17, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Bill is at it again. His memory has faded on this issue just as it apparently faded on the Bosnia lie. Hillary and her supporters have been complaining all campaign season that the press has been harder on her than on Obama. She even got Sir John to bring up the word misogyny.
Come on, Bill. Wake up. It’s not even close to 3AM.
Posted by: Not Surprised | April 17, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
ABC did a hatchet job on Barack. Where was the Mark Penn question on Hillary Clinton’s judgement of hiring a lobbyst to run her campaign while he’s negotiating a free trade agreement behind her back. There was no winner in this debate because questions were loaded and biased against Obama. The losers were ABC and the American people. This is why the country ends up with incompetent Presidents like George Bush with current ratings of 28%.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Justinteim, try MSNBC. olberman and mathews have their heads so far up barrys a– that they can smell what he had for lunch. does larry sinclair ring a bell. he had something else up barrys a–!!!
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Senator Obama: You look as if you need a relaxing weekend away from the campaign. I could come by your hotel Friday about 8:00 and pick you up in my Caddy and we could have a men’s time-out during the weekend. Call me on my cell-you have the #. Looking forward to seeing you again.
Posted by: L. Sinclair | April 17, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
sending another $100 to Obama on Monday
FUHRC
Posted by: god help us | April 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Clearly the worst moderation performance ever. To quote a million other commentators and journalists “are you kidding me?” I really feel for Obama. He kept his cool despite the obvious slant against him. If I were him I would have snapped, and maybe hurled some insults at those sad, pathetic excuse for moderators. I’m done with ABC.
Posted by: Imran | April 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Boat Cruise,
I agree she cannot catch in the delegate count. But if she wins the popular vote (once you include FL, MI is tricky) then I think it’s up for grabs. But that’s a big IF. I have a feeling she won’t even win PA. Which is a shame, because McCain is going to pummel Obama – or, rather, McCain’s cohorts.
You guys just don’t see it. You’re young. You don’t know how the Republicans work. They will literally eat Obama alive. He is far too vulnerable. Too inexperienced. Has too radical of a background, which has been covered up until recently. Unless McCain makes some major screw up, he will win.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
can someone get the racist, deplorable comments off this page!
Posted by: Danny99 | April 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Great job abc news. Finally an organization that asked the hard questions. Yes america wants to know why a presidential candidate associates with a leftist terrorist bomber and a radical racist american hating clergy and calls rural americans frustrated and clingy because they believe in their religion and believe in the 2nd amendment. The emperor has no clothes!! Snobama 08
Posted by: paul | April 17, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I am a female, African-American 43yr Obama supporter. I ATTEMPTED to watch the debate and was unable to keep focused on what was being said. I finally wandered away from the tv. Do you remember the Charlie Brown parents? MWAH, MWAH, MWAH… That is what I hear when Hilary speaks.
Posted by: Delana | April 17, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Michael bell, Hillary has voted for the war which hasd costed more than 4000 lives and billions of dollars without reading the intelligence report which was used to ask for the vote. She again voted to proclaim Iran revolutionay guards a terrorist group without reading the heading of the bill. How anybody on earth could trust Hillary’s judgement? The 109 millon +800 000 from Colombia couple is interested in their pocket, not in my problems. That is the problem with a day dreamer like Hilalry the Bosnian General who is crying every day campaigning and confonding smiles from a little girl in Bosnia to snipers buillets. She is unelectable. Period. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 17, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
typical obama supporter. name: god save us then he posts fuhrc. what a contradiction. educated middle class voter. what a joke.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
If you ask me, it was prety fair. Good training for both candidates. They should have pretty tough skins by now.
Posted by: Roy | April 17, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I’m constantly amazed at people who cannot express themselves w/o resorting to racist remarks. I suggest that those people confine themselves to the racist websites they suggest that we look at.
Posted by: Liz | April 17, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Funny, I keep hearing how the Clinton backers will back McCain if their candidate lose. What a bunch of losers. Voting against your own economic self interest and you wonder why Clinton has the dumb and uneducated vote. People like that should never complain about hard times, they deserve it.
Posted by: Quin | April 17, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
BKMC,
You strike me as one of those Obamaphiles who really has no clue about his own candidate. Were you aware that Obama said that he and GW Bush have the same view on the war (early on, when it was successful). Were you aware he said he didn’t know how he would have voted.
Sure, it’s great to benefit from not being able to have voted, but when you basically admit you would have voted for the war you lose all credibility as a voice of opposition from the start.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Yes please get rid of the racist trash posts!!!
Posted by: Mack | April 17, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
i used to like Bill Clinton. And Hillary too. But now I understand why he turned to cigars in lewinski’s ….
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
I don’t think Bill Clinton was watching the same debate that we were. Maybe he has a special media feed that shows what is said between the lines!
Posted by: Gerry, Denver | April 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
JA, dont contradict the obamaphiles, they are the educated ones. ill bet larry sinclair educated barry, sexually educated him.
Posted by: jimt | April 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Hey, Bill, you are yesterday’s news. Stick to what you know: adultery, perjury, and fine cigars.
Posted by: Scott | April 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
In the event you were asleep when you posted, the new subject of the day is politics, mainly who is best suited to run this country as president and so Obama’s name continues popping up, are you jealous? There are three choices, a botoxed injected paranoid schizophrenic lying white woman who hears voices telling her to lie and say that she is tired, an old baggy jawed balding, Parkinson embodied man still confused about what country he is native of, and an intelligent Black man God fearing man who understands the plight of the poor, aged, unemployed, and who has proven with hard work, dedication, money, time and sincerity that only a man of this caliber can run a country with so many problems such as nearly bankrupt from trying to play nice guy to a country they’re destroying and repairing with tax money from people who can hardly keep food on their own table, with millions of unemployed people, seniors who can’t afford decent housing and medication, the homeless with no place to go, then you must be blind and brainless. It doesn’t take an Einstein to know who the next president will and should be…none other than Obama. I get paid by having a job, able to keep food on my table, a roof over my head, and money in the bank when Obama is in the White house,as president changing things. I can wait until then.
Posted by: GreenTea | April 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Quin,
Spoken like a true elitist. No surprise you’re an Obama supporter. :)
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Boo Hoo Barack. Its hard in the grown up world of politics, isn’t it? Too bad you were completely coddled by your GE supporters at MSNBC and CNN for 15 months. If you hadn’t gotten a free media ride on a magic carpet, maybe you would have learned how to respond to tough questions earlier. You are a lousy debater and it is NOT anyone’s fault but your own. Take some responsibility for yourself Man!
Posted by: Andy P | April 17, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
POOR BABY, TODAY HE IS BAD MOUTHING HILLARY HE OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF, HER PLAN WAS SUPERB AND ONCE AGAIN SHE PROVED SHE WILL BE READY ON DAY ONE.
Posted by: Evista | Apr 17, 2008 7:26:15 PM
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ready to tell the american people more LIES like Bosnia, And worst!. making dreaddfull mistakes on day one like how she sign on to go to WAR.
You are right! she will be ready to run a house painting white located in arkansas. ~NOT THAT other WHITEHOUSE~
SHE IS RUNNING A DOG AND PONY SHOW
CALL DENIAL.SHE LOST ..GET OVER IT.
obama 08 where millions reign supreme
Posted by: sent-to-terminate | April 17, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
I thought this was a wonderful debate. Well thought out and just what America needs to decide who to vote for!
I am like many of the voters I saw all I needed… A Black Man and a Woman. Who cares what they have done. Either one will give me the social programs I need to live very well off of you working stiffs. Let the taxes roll on up, we need your money to support our family. I do not need a job, Oh heavens NO! Best of all you will be paaying for the mortgage that I knew I could not afford. CHANGE BRING IT ON!!!
Posted by: rck | April 17, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Wow…
Guess the Catholics better walk away from their church…
Seems to me being a “Pedophile” is a lil bit worse, than Reverand Wright.
Hillary is trying to get in office, so she doesn’t go to JAIL for the Peter Paul scandal.
The CIVIL trial is in November – that is, if they don’t have him “commit suicide” .. wink, wink ..
Posted by: Sistah | April 17, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
YOU GO BILL! OBAMA IS A BIG WHINY CRYBABY
Posted by: RICK | April 17, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
BooHooHoo…..
Obama is all tough today but last night, he couldn’t finish a sentence without uh uh uh uh —- except to scold Charles for asking what all Americans have been asking on the internet…….
There is no way this guy to ready to lead this great nation.
This guy is a book writer and an activist with his own scary agenda that he is hiding from the public.
AUCHI REZKO WRIGHT MEEKS FARRAKHAN AYERS
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 17, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The Clintons are typical politicians. Yeah, they would throw working class Americans a bone if re-elected for a third term, but we deserve and can achieve more than that. I think we have forgotten our potential and we are also in denial about how serious our problems are. We have a chance to elect a completely different kind of person as our president. Barack is exactly the kind of person that I have always imagined should run, but rarely does. His positive campaign has inspired average people like myself to come together and accomplish things…and we are going to need each other in order to solve our many problems.
(By the way, that debate was a joke. It was disgusting that it took 45 minutes to talk about real issues. HRC and ABC are OUT OF TOUCH).
We the people…Obama ’08
Posted by: Bethany Donovan | April 17, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I don’t think that Obama’s supporters care if he actually makes it to the white house. It’s all about beating the Clintons. But , you won’t win the
white house without the Clinton supporter votes.
Posted by: KURT | April 17, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I find it difficult to believe that these Obama followers believe that they are part of the Democratic Party. They are willing to suppress the voters in Florida and Michigan just to have they cultish guy win. NO TRUE DEMOCRAT would EVER stand for disfranshising voters.
No true Democrat would ever be so vile and hateful against a successful Democratic President like Bill.
These individuals are becoming a scurge on the traditions of our Party.
They should go and start another Party and we will all be better for it.
Posted by: LilRod | April 17, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Oh please. Do you know how full of BS the Obamas are. I’ve been hearing Michelle Obama yap on about how they just finished paying off college debt. Really? Guess why, because it makes no sense to pay college debt of early – it has a lower rate and is tax deductible.
And I’m sure the 4.2MM in income that the Obamas reported in 2007 went a looong way to paying off that debt.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
You know what I can’t wait to see? The Obamabots and the Hilliars all singing kumbya around the campfire once you get a candidate for the general election.
The rude, crude, hypocrites, illogical that you all are I am sure you will all get along swimmingly. LOL
Posted by: RayRay | April 17, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
THANK YOU ABC for a fair debate, finally! Even if you do not like or support a Clinton presidency, I find that the negativity about ABC’s handling of the debate mind-blogging, or at least denial at its best. Attack (pose serious questions to) Obama and you get punished. This is the politics of fear. I believe it is because too many people from the media and Hollywood bought into Obama early on without investigation and the celebrity status was sold to men and women of decent mind and heart. But whenever a question of Obama’s personhood, expertise or well, just about anything he can’t defend, his supporters become threatened. To think this Denzel Washington wannabe has a serious shot is frightening –and no I’m not talking about race, except when it is misured. You think Bush supporters look like fools…just wait!
Posted by: Dee from Arkansas | April 17, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Are all Repsforobama as uninformed as you? The answer is yes because you are fortifying your denial in order to maintain Obama’s mesmerizing hynotic spell over you.
The guy is an angry puppy who has crossed over to Farrakhans bunch.
He needs you to get in office and then you become collateral damage. Duh?
Posted by: appul | April 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Another major fundraiser for Obama is William Ayers, who also sat on the board of the Woods Fund with Obama and is a professor at the University of Chicago.
Bill Ayers, along with his wife Bernadine Dohrn, was an active member of the Weather Underground, a radical left-wing group that advocated violence against the United State. Both Ayers and Dohrn went “underground” in 1970 after others in the group accidentally detonated a bomb in a Greenwich Village (New York City) townhouse. The blast killed three of the group’s members including Ayers’ girlfriend at the time.
While Ayers and Dohrn were hiding from law enforcement, the Weather Underground participated in the bombings of the US Capital, the Pentagon and a State Department building. In 1981 Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in to federal authorities, but all charges were dropped as a result of alleged “government legal misconduct.” In his 2001 memoir, Ayers wrote, “I don’t regret setting the bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Ayers and Dohrn are known to have held at least one fundraiser for Barack Obama in their Chicago home.
During Obama’s last year on the board of The Woods Fund (2002), he participated in awarding grants, including a $70,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, a Chicago-based group founded by Rashid and Mona Khalidi.
In another suspected quid pro quo arrangement similar to those with Ayers and Rezko, Rashid Khalidi also held a fundraising event in his home for Barack Obama.
In the Middle East, Rashid Khalidi was known as a man to be reckoned with. From 1972 through 1983, Khalidi was the director in Beirut of the official Palestinian press agency, FAFA. His wife worked there as well.
According to sources, when the Khalidi’s left Chicago for Columbia University in New York, Rashid was honored with the Edward Said Chair in Arab Studies at that Ivy League university. Their goodbye party in Chicago included testimonials from Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.
“What other fund raising connections does Obama have? How many times can you look the other way in church and with fund raising situations with more than questionable people?”
Posted by: Antonn | April 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Obama is a big, whiny, baby! But also an obnoxious, arrogant, jerk.
Bill Clinton was spot on in calling Obama whiny.
I guess when Obama sits down with Ahmanidjad he can whine to him too.
Obama is a rookie with no experience, no accomplishments, and no qualifications.
Posted by: Tom | April 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Chuck Spears:
You are a reminder of the great nation in which we live. Where else would a person like you have access to a computer that works, the freedom to dress in a robe and a pointy hat, AND a rudimentary grasp of the English language that allows you to participate in forums such as this?
Posted by: Liz | April 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
It was refreshing to finally see a network not be afraid to give some tough questions to Obama as if he were a white person. Questioning his background associations is of extreme importance since this guy could become our president.
Frankly I would be a little nervous about having Obama with his finger on the button or with knowledge of our government’s top secrets. I just don’t trust the guy as being a devoted American. Can’t help it..its a gut feeling.
Posted by: Vince Hugh | April 17, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
50% of the country is republican, 50% is LIBERAL. Of the LIBERAL 50%, 50% is for Obama and 50% is for Hillary. Based on that, Hillary and Obama will only get 25% of the vote. McCain WINS!!!!!
Posted by: SRussell | April 17, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Waah, waah, waah……..never got to hear all the Democrat Obama apologists all cry at once……….Kleenex anyone?
Posted by: gregt | April 17, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
BHO cant even lose a debate nicely. He has to punish us all with whining about how Clinton was good….and that is a bad thing how?
Tell the child to pack his things and go, time for the adults to get to work!
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
This debate had no pressing questions hit, it was all ego-centered bullshit. These people are not qualified to run the country.
Posted by: Brian Kenny | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
OBAMA supporters are very low. Death threats to the San Francisco reporter, and just read their comments. BOTTOM LINE: Obama’s responses were a disaster. First, his defense of his shady affiliations. Second, and much worse were his answers on the Economy.
He failed ALL BY HIMSELF. Just like when you were a student and failed a test, it isn’t the teacher’s fault.
Posted by: mj | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
ABC just compounds their assinine behavior of last night with a piece of crap article like this.
ABC & Disney better pray hard that Obama doesn’t become President like they’re obviously trying to prevent. If he does, I hope he calls for a restoration of the Fainess Doctrine to help put a stop to partisan hit jobs like last night’s travesty.
Posted by: MH | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Are all Repsforobama as uninformed as you? The answer is yes because you are fortifying your denial in order to maintain Obama’s mesmerizing hynotic spell over you.
The guy is an angry puppy who has crossed over to Farrakhans bunch.
He needs you to get in office and then you become collateral damage. Duh?
Posted by: appul | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
The Rnc are a bunch of lying , cheating ,money stealing thugs and no one seems to care they couldnt throw a punch if they had too. The real men are our soldiers which they have gotten them killed and all the money that was sent over to Iraq is no where to be found those are the questions the moderaters should be asking.What happened to the handling of the Katrina victims and I could go on an on and we sit back and worry about Barack and say nasty thing but you people do not hold the Rnc accountable for anything that they have ever done this is why we are at war because that have committed war crimes John Mcain doesnt want to address these issues all he wants to do is go to war hes trying to start one with Iran and he doesnt care about this country he trying to payback someone for making him a prisoner of war.If you guys look at the movie with John Travolta playing a southern governer its called Primary Colors that would let you people see how Bill Clinton won the presidential election. He had an habit of cheating on His wife and she knew it hillary knew what bill was doing shes playing on women like she a victim he also was sleeping with younger girls also and you would be amazed of what color the young girls are I think he is a pervert since everyone think he was the greatest he was the most lieing schemeing politician there is and you people try to judge obama you are the ones in denial these are things this man actually has done and his wife knew it.John Mcain has another supporter to stand on the stump and quotes”You can have your tiger woods” but no one ever put it on the news over and over it all kinds of things like John Hagee he made all kinds of stupid statements he said that the things that happened to the hurricane katrina victims were supposed too and no one ever put it on the news over and over this world is such a mean spirited of people that are not like them and its so pathetic and you people justify it and you wonder why people are bitter and upset and has never apologized to any race on the things that has been opposed on them instead you just say get over it that is so ridiculous and people claim we are a christian nation and who wears a flag pin I dont see people walking around with flag pins to prove their an american or you love this country. YOU SHOULD LOVE GOD FIRST AND PEOPLE ARE BORN AMERICANS.SO WAKE UP BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT ARE ON THESE STUPID ISSUES ARE SLEEP AND THATS WHY THINGS ARE SO BAD IN OUR ECONOMY, THE RICH KEEP GETTING RICH AND NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TOO AND ITS COMING BACK TO SLAP AMERICA IN THE FACE BECAUSE THE FIRST WILL BE LAST AND THE LAST WILL BE FIRST.THERE IS TOO MUCH GREED , TOO MUCH GREED WILL HURT AND THAT WHY OUR COUNTRY IS HURTING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOVERNING THIS COUNTRY JUST DO NOT GET IT.
Posted by: madycat | April 17, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
all you hillybeans, she has lost and will continue to do so, because her bedtime stories of snipers shots at barbie dolls is receptive to hillybean babies ears like ya all.
get a grip and use your brains, loosers.
Posted by: phyllis | April 17, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
If Obama can’t take the heat he should get the hell out of the kitchen before the Republicans fry him up in the pan. he finally gets asked some tough questions and cry’s foul. He is running for POTUS not playground King.
Posted by: ginka | April 17, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
The people who are angry over the debate/ABC are just bias towards Obama. We all see that. Obama’s saying today in some ways… “Look ABC, you don’t own me!” If he cannot take the hard questions, how can he deal with the hard decisions that come with the job as president? huffington Post people are crazy! Abc’s has just stirred those nuts up! IMO.
Posted by: Christie | April 17, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I love it. Bill Clinton, the master of contact sports, telling everyone, if you don’t want to play, keep the uniform off. Is he sending subliminal messages?
Posted by: Raiderdad | April 17, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Quin,
What is truly “dumb” is not knowing the definition of “elitist.” You don’t need to have a lot of money to be elitist, you can be an intellectual elitist, for instance. And Obama’s poor, poor mother has a PhD in Anthropology I believe. Right, poor Obama. Only cleared 4.2MM in 2007
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
We had better practice assuming the position if Hillary or Obama win. Bend over grab your ankles and smile like your enjoying it because it is inevitable. Liberal Fascism will be in full gate.
Posted by: slow boat | April 17, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
The debate was a farce. Hillary is man with t*ts. And Barack has to man-up.
-Obama 08
Posted by: Free Thinker | April 17, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Both Hillary and Obama said they can solve the worlds problems by getting world leaders to sit down and agree on solving the problem. Now, the way I see it, neither can Elmer the delegate to sit down and pick them. If they cant get a stupid delegate to listen to them how do they plan on getting a dictator to sit down and follow them???? LIBERALS ARE IDIOTS
Posted by: Lemon | April 17, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Hillary get back in the kitchen. Thats all I need is to hear that screechy white voice> I have had enough of all you B*T*H*S!
Posted by: Keyon'Dre | April 17, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Stefanopoutos worked Bill and Hill, then he quit to make money, i guess now he is auditioning for white house press secretary.
i am ashame he shares my heritage
Ace
Posted by: Ace | April 17, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
She didn’t whine?
Why all the claptrap about if Barack wants a pillow?
Hillary was good in the debate because she talked about hating Bush and that’s a popular sentiment. It’s the equivalent of saying, “I love you, (current town)” It’s an automatic crowd pleaser.
But her answers on the issues were a big yawn…
Posted by: Nick | April 17, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
For months on the Obama campaign has tried to show Hillary in a bnegative light,question her truthfulness and even character.They had to do it to distract attention from an accomplished senator and a person who has actually attempted with success to make change.The first ever instant he gets questioned they whine and in fact use abusive language as is quite evident on this blog.Obama supporters on this blog are simply disgusting.
Posted by: vik | April 17, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Again – ABC News why is this relevant? Has Bill Clinton done anything newsworthy here other than support his wife – which I can respect. Start acting as a responsible news agency with a very significant role to play in our democracy. We are not a stupid electorate. STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND FULFILL THE FOURTH ESTATE’s VERY IMPORTANT ROLE. JUST STOP WITH THE TABLOID NEWS.
Posted by: AmericaNeedsSolutions | April 17, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Keyon,
Your racist comment (“that screechy white voice”) is not appreciated. I take it you attended Rev Wright’s church as well? :)
Seriously ask yourself though, what would happend if someone were to say “I’m tired of hearing Obama’s thuggish black voice”.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
If Obama wins I won vote
Posted by: Tan | April 17, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I used to be ridiculed by my friends because I supported Bill Clinton – now I know why. Last night’s debate was an utter joke and the moderator’s had
drunk the Clinton Kool-Aid (the questions had obviously been provided to HRC in advance) Is Clinton a closet Republican? I am a staunch Democrat but will NEVER vote for Clinton. If Clinton is the nominee – I will not vote for her. By the way, I am a 60 year old white, Catholic, woman, and I approve Obama’s message
Posted by: Vienna | April 17, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
You can also achieve a PhD and be poor by working your ass off and receiving scholarships. Dummies like you wouldn’t know that unless Hillary “let’s sale the Lincoln Bedroom” to the highest bidder” told you what to think.———————————————-
Quin,
What is truly “dumb” is not knowing the definition of “elitist.” You don’t need to have a lot of money to be elitist, you can be an intellectual elitist, for instance. And Obama’s poor, poor mother has a PhD in Anthropology I believe. Right, poor Obama. Only cleared 4.2MM in 2007
Posted by: Quin | April 17, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I once thought it was a great idea to have the youth more involved in the political process but their choice that is Obama tells a different story. You’d all do the country a favor and stick to frat parties, smoking pot, and leaving the electoral process to people who know what they are doing. People who are not moved by simple emotion but believe substance matters. In the youth world the latest fashion and I-Pod tells alot about their objectivity. Now you all go buy a keg and do America a favor and don’t vote unless you take the time to get informed. This isn’t a rock concert it is our country’s future!
Posted by: Realist | April 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Stefanopoutos worked for Bill and Hill, then he quit to make money, i guess now he is auditioning for white house press secretary.
i am ashame he shares my heritage
Ace
Posted by: Ace | April 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Talk about the big dodge. ABC gave Senator Obama an opportunity to tell millions of people why association with Ayers and Wright–and comments on bitter people–do or do not reflect his political views. He failed to seize the opportunity, looked uncomfortable, and now complains about the format. ABC does not deserve criticism here, particularly where other networks have seemed almost cozy with Obama. Obama is now simply trying to dodge criticism properly directed at him for failing to speak with voters.
Posted by: Ed Fairness | April 17, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Obama is a liar and a hypocrie. Thanks ABC for partially exposing him.
Posted by: satish | April 17, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Well you do know that Hillary was a former Republican and Goldwater Girl. I think she is trying to go back to her roots.——————————————————
Last night’s debate was an utter joke and the moderator’s had
drunk the Clinton Kool-Aid (the questions had obviously been provided to HRC in advance) Is Clinton a closet Republican?
Posted by: Quin | April 17, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
great job abc. Hillary did great at the debate. ABC thank you for balanced reporting. obama and his supporters are so soft. if you guys cannot handle the heat now how do you expect to win in november.
Posted by: sonia trevino | April 17, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
I am so disgusted by the lewd comments in this blog! AND the majority of them are directed at the Clintons by Obama supporters. If the debate last night didn’t already make up my mind to vote for Senator Clinton, this blog certainly did, because there is no way I am voting for someone who has a following of voters that are as disgusting as what has been portrayed here.
Posted by: Nancy | April 17, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Somebody tell Bill to stop whining!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 17, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Quin,
Once again, you are making no sense. The charge of elitism does not necessarily entail you have money. Many Ivy League professors make well under 100k and most would classify many of them as elitist. Assistant profs often make 60k and much less. Certainly not wealthy. And yet many of them have elitist mindset.
So in the future, before you call someone “dumb” make sure to know your definitions first.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I voted for Bill Clinton and I supported him for years, but I got to say, the man is getting to be a pain in the butt. Half of what he says doesn’t make sense anymore, I guess he’s no longer as good of a liar as he onced was.
Posted by: James | April 17, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Did anyone catch the Drudge Report headline??? Hillary did great? Did ABC fall over themselves giving her a platform? This was highjinks of the first order. All I can say is: America, if you want this crook in the White House, then you get what you deserve. I can’t think of anyone less qualified to be president than her (except Carter) in my life time. I feel sorry for the country, because we will stand to live through 8 years more of her. May God have mercy on our souls.
Posted by: sixty-sixer | April 17, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Bill, well now we know , you don’t listen or pay any attention to what Hillary says
Posted by: Van-Couver | April 17, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Those few Clinton groupies that are left after all her lies are on here thanking ABC … I guess for putting on a lousy debate. It’s their last shred of hope. lol
Posted by: dgfiit | April 17, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
I didn’t think Bill Clinton could get any worse…. by far, one of the top 3 worst human beings on this planet.
Posted by: Daniel | April 17, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
The Drudge headline was a quote from Bubba Clinton ….not Drudge’s opinion.
Posted by: dgfiit | April 17, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Note to Charlie and George of ABC:
At least Joe McCarthy’s guilt by association smears referred to the behavior of adults, not things that happened when his targets were five or six years old.
Congrats on this new low in American “mainstream” journalism!
Not!
Posted by: MARTIN EDWIN "MICK" ANDERSEN | April 17, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
What Obama supporters fail to remember and Hillary Clinton supporters haven’t forgotten is that this is a presidential campaign. This isn’t our first time at the rodeo. As Bill said, if you don’t want to play, don’t suit up. Stop jumping in there and sending these stupid blogs about Obama being attacked. He should strap on a pair and so should the rest of you. The GOP is going to have an entirely different paly book that will give you folks something to chew on and then who will you whine to?
Posted by: Lynne | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
That Bill sure is ticklish.
Posted by: MB | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Hmmm…
It’a amazing what someone will say behind a keyboard…
Guarantee you they would never say it to your face…
I’ve never seen so many “pillow biters” in my life!
Hillary: Staying with a “whoremonger” made you lose alot of points with the ladies. The only ones sticking with you are:
1) The poor ones
2) The ones that have been cheated on
3) The old senile ones
Bow out and go “get some botox, PLEASE” – better yet, go prepare for your civil trial in November – Peter Paul vs Clinton.
And to Quin:
Being an “elitist” is just running for president.
If I turn up dead, HRC did it!
Posted by: Sistah | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Memo To Bill: Hillary probably doesn’t have any “Whining” left in her…after all you’ve put her through.
Just shut-up and go away!!! :~(
Posted by: 1968WhoWasI | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Great job, ABC-TV! Finally, a good debate. Obama needs to stop whining. If he cannot handle a debate with HRC, then how on earth will he manage a tough conversation with Vladimir Putin?
Posted by: JC | April 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
The Clintons say talk is cheap. It sure has made them MILLIONS…….
Posted by: Tony | April 17, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
When you know who your Savior is, politics is irrelevant. Peace be upon all of you, really.
Posted by: plainsm | April 17, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
the sad thing is I do not think Obama will be able to appoint the clintons to anything significant, because of the trust factor. I mean would you trust them?
Posted by: Lenny | April 17, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Or was it KICK-BACK?
Posted by: Tony | April 17, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
If anybody knows about politics being a contact sport, it’s Bill. Ask his intern.
Posted by: Roger | April 17, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Tony, kind of like it has made Obama millions – 4.2MM in 2007 alone to be exact.
Posted by: JA | April 17, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Hillary is a pathelogical liar. She also is delusional in thinking she was shot at in Bosnia. Travelgate, Vince Fostergate, Whitwater Gate, fired as an attorney during Nixon investigation, Bimbo eruptions, Healthcare failure, Billing records, I don’t recall, lamp throwing, pardons for terrorists, distain for military and secret service personel, did I mention she was a liar.
Cannot believe the number of Kool Aide drinkers in the country who actually support this psychopath.
Posted by: eagle35 | April 17, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
I don’t know what was more disgusting — Hillary Clinton or Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos.
you wonder why this country has so many problems. thank you ABC News. for becoming Star Magazine. even CBS could probably run a more intelligent debate. that’s right, CBS.
Posted by: marc | April 17, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
ABC’s debate was very interesting. I liked the fact that they asked questions to BOTH individuals that were challenging and interesting. What and how individuals behave in their personal lives is of relevance. Furthermore, who they associate with is pertinent too – - it’s called personal judgment. Unlike all other debates, I feel this one really let me better understand and know the candidates on levels not exposed to date. Thank you ABC for having the courage to provide a very provactive and worthwhile debate – - asking BOTH candidates challenging questions. Thank you.
Posted by: T | April 17, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Biil & Hill have revealed thier true agenda.Bill is hoping to ive more jobs away while Hill wants power at any costs. Bill’s got his NAFTA & China financed library and now Hill wants hers. He makes me sick…………..
It’s long past a need for change of the
Bush and Clinton self centered style of politics.
America is in a crisis unless they have not noticed.Bush managed to get into a war and ran uo our dept and Clinton set the stage for our jobs to be exported to China. Obama and many Americans see this and are are calling for a change. Isn’t it time for a change from the politics of division of Bush and Clinton?
Posted by: savoymt | April 17, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
This was the worst debate so far– which I blame totally on the ABC moderators and their trivial, pointless “gotcha” questions. And who was responsible for giving that woman a chance to ask Obama about flag pins? We’ve got 4,000 dead in Iraq, the economy is in the toilet, and global warming threatens our very existence–and what she’s concerned about is whether or not a Presidential candidate wears a flag pin. That’s the definition of being a moron.
Posted by: Patrick, Takoma Park MD | April 17, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
When oh when will these two just come clean and talk about the truths about themselves. She can’t keep her mouth from spouting lies left and right and he has nothing to stake a claim on as to how he could lead. Both of them will cause so many problems with this country that I shutter to think of either one “in charge” for 4 years.
Posted by: R | April 17, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
What is Bill talking about? Hillary did whine and they never even asked her about all the 1990s scandals. This was not even a debate-it was like “meet the press” with journalists asking attack questions with very little debate between the two candidates. ABC has plenty of opportunities to do their tough questioning but not at debates where the interaction should be with the other candidate not the press.
Posted by: kevin | April 17, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
JA:
Oh.. you got it. Was it kick back for the Clintons? He gave speeches and made millions. Good for them…..
Posted by: Tony | April 17, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Thanks ABC, the debate was excellent. Hurrah for Hillary!!! She stood out the stronger of the two, and a winner.
Posted by: Ell | April 17, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Greg Neubeck you’re awesome!!
Posted by: Scott | April 17, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
All of you are getting so ANGRY and worked up over two very insincere people – THE BOTH OF THEM! And add McCain to the list, too. Fighting this hard over two candidates who basically will do exactly the same job is a waste of time. I wish we had candidates worth fighting this hard over, but these three aren’t worth it. Go, Nader! (I had you till the very end…)
Posted by: David | April 17, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
All the dishonest and underhanded tactics and behaviours the Clintons are hated for now were clearly in evidence when Bill Clinton was running for the Presidency and in office. The only difference is that this time they are being used against a Democratic opponent, and all of a sudden it’s not so acceptable anymore. Rove or Hannity have nothing to do with this debacle. The Democratic party is doing a good job of defeating itself this time.
Posted by: nwcanadian | April 17, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
“Well, could I just point out that, in the last several debates, I seem to get the first question all the time. And I don’t mind. You know, I’ll be happy to field them, but I do find it curious. And if anybody saw ‘Saturday Night Live,’ you know, maybe we should ask Barack if he’s comfortable and needs another pillow.” – Hillary Clinton, Cleveland debates.
… Oh no. She doesn’t whine at all.
Posted by: Bridget | April 17, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Finally, a fair debate where Obama didn’t get treated as if he were already President….I’m sick of his whining, double standards, and deflection. Everytime something comes up he is uncomfortable with, he dismisses or makes fun of it. He is arrogant, and comes off dismissive, cocky, and patronizing. He is the king of deflection, and I must say, he is really good at evasive maneuvers. The Obama followers are only criticizing ABC because he FINALLY got a taste of what Clinton has been getting for a year from the mass media. Hang in there Charlie and George, you did the right thing and actually conducted yourselves in a professional manner, more than can be said for most of the MSM.
Posted by: dwc | April 17, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
ABC should not do any of the General Election debates this fall. George Stephanoplois and Charles Gibson spend the first 45 minutes doing Hillay Clinton and the Republican’s dirty work and don’t get to the first issue that voters really care about until half of the debate was over with.
Posted by: Yeil Raven | April 17, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Bottom line – If Clinton and the superdelegates “steal” the nomination from BO the blacks will be absolutely furious (and who could blame them) and will finally desert the dems in unprecedented numbers. McCain will win the presidency.
Obama has earned the nomination and he’s proven to be the best candidate. Anything else spells unavoidable disaster for the dems.
Posted by: Jo Jo | April 17, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Amazing what a little time and adopting a new Messiah will do, isn’t it? What has happened to the “wonderful, can’t do anything wrong” Clintons in the eyes of the Democrat Party? Seems the Republicans were saying these very things about the Clintons for YEARS, and the Dems would have none of it…and now the Clintons are horrible? PLEASE! I think I’ll stick with being an Independent and vote the issues… right now, much to my surprise, that vote will go to Senator McCain. Clinton and Obama were BOTH lying last night, and frankly, Obama looked very, very weak and whiney. There was nothing wrong with those questions from ABC…Obama is simply use to the free ride and now it’s over and he’s having to actually answer difficult questions…just the beginning. Should be interesting. Cheers!
Posted by: Dr Wesley | April 17, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Poor Barry, having to answer tough questions about things that he has said. Too bad they didn’t ask him what a “typical white person” is. It’s not just about issues – which they differ very little – it’s about a candidate’s mindset and how they think about things. And how they plan to accomplish them Congress will not bow down and kiss his ring and I don’t believe he can do a darn thing in DC that is good. He is a hard left Marxist and such a whiner.
Posted by: Typical White Pennsylvanian | April 17, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Is Bill really an objective source for judging his wife’s performance in the debate? The vast majority of people left the debate feeling that it was heavily biased and agressive against Obama, and that hillary performed weakly and powder coated her same old cheap shots, this time with the help of the moderators. I think it left most people feeling ill about Clinton and ABC. Suger coat it all you want, polling is showing most people agree with what I just said.
Posted by: jb | April 17, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Thank you ABC since you went TABLOID and not into issues that people care about , I went on my lunch break and donate 75 dollars to the Obama campaign.
Posted by: mimi | April 17, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
He’s tickled because he probably set it up.
Posted by: Kevin | April 17, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Just face the facts. Hussein and Rodham aren’t qualified to be President of the P.T.A. never mind this great country…Together they couldn’t run a lemonade stand. If the dems are going to win they need a nominate a new candidate at the convention. Liberalism is a mental disorder….
Posted by: FDK | April 17, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
I am proud of Hillary and ABC News! It is about time someone in the media woke up and question Obama just as strongly as they have Hillary. I am shocked that The head of the DNC has been able to play the media into lovin Obama and the top brass not counting Florida and Michigan to make the voting public want to only vote for a winner. secret agenda to keep Hillary out of the Whitehouse so pathetic- bringing Kerry and Kennedy (into Deans small minded personality.) two past runners that lost. How dare a woman do better than them. And lets not forget the sorry campaign that Dean ran. And poor Obama dosen’t even realize he has been played like a fiddle. So sick is the DNC- I will vote for McCain if Hillary isn’t the nominee.
Posted by: Valrie Sommerville | April 17, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I used to think Bill Clinton was a great American president. Now the sight of him makes we want to vomit.
Posted by: justsayin' | April 17, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
I am now voting for Obama. Last night’s debate clinched the deal for me. Trivial, petty, small-minded and superficial; those are just a few words to describe ABCs moderation and Hillary’s performance. Bill, while you and Hillary lavish in the glow of Hillary’s “win,” why don’t you open your eyes to the fact that her “win” came at the expense of the American people.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
I am now voting for Obama. Last night’s debate clinched the deal for me. Trivial, petty, small-minded and superficial; those are just a few words to describe ABCs moderation and Hillary’s performance. Bill, while you and Hillary lavish in the glow of Hillary’s “win,” why don’t you open your eyes to the fact that her “win” came at the expense of the American people.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
We are down to selecting between these 3 people. Good thing the Pope is over here someone who has some influence with God needs to be putting in a few good words for those of us who are going to have to put up with these guys. Maybe we could try to run without government for say 50 years.
Jim
Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Obama, if you can take the heat why are you in Raleigh, NC with a high black population? Hello! It is 5 days to Pennsylvania primary. Don’t you think you need to be there campaigning?
Appears like TX, OH again. Not good.
Posted by: Knowledgeforreal | April 17, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrelr | April 17, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
finally someone asked Obama a tough question…….and he couldnt take it…..sore loser
Posted by: gary cox | April 17, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
No complaints from the Clintons because they paid someone off to have questions bash Obama for an hour. I expected this from the yellow press (Fox News), but it shocked me to see ABC sink that low. I guess they’ve defined themselves as a runner up as the next generation in yellow press. I can understand had they gone hard on both of them, but to rack him through the coals for nearly an hour, it was a gross display of trash media.
Posted by: Andy Garcia | April 17, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Thank you ABC since you went TABLOID and not into issues that people care about , I went on my lunch break and donate 75 dollars to the Obama campaign.
Posted by: mimi | Apr 17, 2008 8:34:27 PM
________________________________________
I see i have company i knock my visa up for 50 bucks myself.
he is the people’s champ.
Posted by: kelly | April 17, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Some of the people who post here are disgusting. you really need to take a good look at yourselves. The hatred against Hillary and Bill Clinton is unrational. You people are projecting your own pathetic hypocrite energy onto them. And all of these Obama supports probably thought that MC Hammer and Ricky Martin were going to revolutioize popular music. Seek therapy, Now before the whole country has to suffer for your obsessiveness.
Posted by: Tom NYC | April 17, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
All Bill and Hill do is whine. What a joke.
Let’s not ever forget that Bill Jefferson Clinton took sexual advantage of an intern who is younger than his daughter is right now. Old B.J. Clinton just couldn’t help himself.
Posted by: Doug | April 17, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
I saw her eyes well up…
Posted by: CC | April 17, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Finally. No free pass for Barak. For the first time ever he was asked direct questions and he failed miserably. Hillary will win by double digits. His comments show him for what he is-and that’s not good.
Thank you Charlie and George for the first debate that was fair. Are you paying attention MSNBC and Keith?
Posted by: Ed Raykhinshteyn | April 17, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama got whupped!
LOL
Posted by: USmarine0331 | April 17, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Senator Clinton has emerged in this campaign as bright and tough and unscathed…even stronger after all the misogynistic shots from people who would never similary criticize their Messiah with the feet of clay. All obama could do today was boo-hoo-hoo..What a whiner! He can’t win in the general..Give em hell Hillary! You’ve got more weight(if you get my drift) than all of them put together!Just what our nation needs.
Posted by: Christine Craft | April 17, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Obama is a Chicago politician…a liar and crook by definition..buddy of Rezko.
Let a racist nutcase baptize his own children.
He is naive, he is untested, he is unknown..hanging around with Ayers? Cmon..
Obama, the Manchurian candidate.
Obama our naive, untested marxist messiah selling Chicago style political lies
Posted by: rds | April 17, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
It is like the Obama campaign is feeding its supporters a daily script. Today it has been…Hillary’s campaign is SO negative…Those debate moderators were SO unfair…
Oh Pleeezee…Would you like some cheese with your whine??
Obama is the one that plays negative…he just gets others to do it for him. His supporters have been some of the nastiest people I have read comments from.
Talk about NOT sticking to the issues.
Obama talks a big game…he has the best dirty Chicago political players in his campaign.
And to think that people actually believe his crap! That is what is so sad.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 17, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
And all of you sick racist that attack Obama for his Race need help too.
Posted by: Tom NYC | April 17, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Does anyone remember the press conference that Obama did recently when he stormed out after the press only asked him 8 questions? Do you people really think this man is fit to be President?
Posted by: suzanne | April 17, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Bill is a loose cannon and need some help. His wife’s campaign was constantly whining about being mistreated by the press. Is that too long ago to remember? I can’t wait for the Dem primary to be over. As much I used to like Hillary, she is a turn off!
Posted by: sarah AAA | April 17, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Tom Shales is right. Last night’s debate was a disgusting display of poor journalism. Peter Jennings must be turning over in his grave. Forty-five minutes of questions about trivial matters, including one dictated to the Clintons’ former aide by Sean Hannity. If you can’t do any bettter than that, ABC, stick with Dancing With the Stars and leave real journalism to Keith Olbermann.
Posted by: Larry | April 17, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
ABC’s coverage of the Pennsylvania Democratic debate was nothing short of horrible. Hosts Gibson and Stephanopoulos were so hell bent on looking intellectual that they completely turned the debate into a slug-fest. From the opening question, Barack Obama was put on the offensive and the host seemed determined to keep throwing punches even after the questions were answer.
On the other hand, neither host seemed to feel the need to relentlessly drill Hilary Clinton for the “ducking sniper fire” comments that were nothing short of lies.
Kudos ABC for making a name for yourselves for hosting the worst debate of this election.
Posted by: xz | April 17, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
The person thats posting the website sorry no one wants to go to this so you can get any pride out of this with your sorry ass,go and get a brain obviously you dont have one but I bet you will not call any one that to their face and Im calling your ass out and I will give you my address and let you know where to meet me.This is not back in the day this is 2008 and we will get your ass straight.
Posted by: madycat | April 17, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
The media has yet to really hammer Obama. He is a typical politician. He joined his church because it has 8000 constituents, good numbers for getting elected to a state senate seat. He voted present over and over again in the state senate on controversial issues. His campaign said this is how they do it in the Illinois senate. I thought Obama was not a typical politician? NOT!! Then gave an anti-war speech because it was a popular stance among his constituents. He then removed the speech from his website just prior to his speech before the Democratic Convention. He has not done a single thing to oppose the war in his 3 years in the Senate. Politricks as usual.
Posted by: Yup | April 17, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Bill ‘hornie toad’ Clinton needs to shut up FOREVER!!!! He SHOULD KNOW about politics being a contact sport…..he definitely kept up the CONTACT :-)
Posted by: Sonya | April 17, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Finally!!!!! Obama cast in the correct light… the funny thing about it is that it is MAKING PEOPLE INSANE… “Operation Chaos” strikes again. Obama is an elitest snob….Hilary isnt much better but the Republicans can beat Hilary…. LOVE IT.
Posted by: Nicole Sue | April 17, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
It’s time for ABC to get out of the “news” business. It no longer views “reporting” as a valued trust of the public – it sees creating controversy as its primary moneymaker. The American people should not have to stand for that kind of trash, particularly during the most important general election in a generation.
ABC should just stop reporting on the political elections.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | April 17, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Somebody please play this lying idiot the tape of the debate where Hillary whines about being asked the first question and asks if Barack needs a pillow!
OMG, the Clintons are THE biggest whiners to hit politics in my lifetime.
Posted by: TL | April 17, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
So then vote for her we dont care she’s still losing dont use an excuse because of what someone said you know you wasnt going to vote for him anyway you people are just looking for and excuse that means you are not voting on issues you are making a decision on what people are saying about another person that doesnt make since.I see what he means now about people voting for anything
Posted by: madycat | April 17, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Well, well, we see what Obama is made of when the media isn’t sucking up to him. They have figured out what everyone else now knows – he is unelectable. I’m no big fan of Hillary or McCain, don’t get me wrong, but this guy Obama is NOT ready for Prime Time, and it’s about time that everyone starts to realize that.
Posted by: The Sandman | April 17, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
‘Operation Chaos’ aside (the Dems are doing a pretty good job of it on their own),Rush Limbaugh is ‘right on’ about the need for an alternate candidate. The Clinton/Obama ‘clown act’ has gone far enough. I’m all for Gore (‘Mr. Global Warming’;the man with the huge ‘carbon footprint’). I’d strongly welcome the chance to see his political behind whipped a second time. I say bring him on!!
Posted by: iotbs1 | April 17, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
‘Operation Chaos’ aside (the Dems are doing a pretty good job of it on their own),Rush Limbaugh is ‘right on’ about the need for an alternate candidate. The Clinton/Obama ‘clown act’ has gone far enough. I’m all for Gore (‘Mr. Global Warming’;the man with the huge ‘carbon footprint’). I’d strongly welcome the chance to see his political behind whipped a second time. I say bring him on!!
Posted by: iotbs1 | April 17, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Charlie Gibson for all of his “seasoned” experience came off as if he was talking down to you with his glasses down his nose and his debate ethics was more concerned with bowing to the advertisers. Ninety minutes on network televsion, less 45 minutes for the gutter innuendo questions to die off, less the ten minutes for advertising, and what you have left is about 35 minutes of lackluster rhetoric. Not to mention the poor camera work that focused on Chelsea almost as much as Hillary and Obama. Charles Gibson has lost credibility when all he wanted to do was blow hard, looking for any thread of sensationalism that can be construed as “real” news. He is even less capable as a debate moderator. And can someone tell me how fairness and impartiality can exist when George Stephanopoulos, a Clinton minion who, despite his otherwise intelligent and keen sense of reporting, cannot be fair and impartial when he has served the Clinton’s in the past. The entire charade was so jaded with old news and slurs intended to distract and distort both candidates.
It is a shame that C-Span or Public Television haven’t been included in presenting a real debate to teach the commercial-driven, opinionated, holier-than-thou pontificators of ABC and the other networks what real unbiased reporting is meant to be. Let it unfold before the viewer without interruption, let the viewer discern in their own way, without all the compulsive commentary that reporters feel compelled to regurgitate because they “know” or they “feel” we, the public cannot possibly understand what is happening.
No news is good news…
Posted by: Geogib | April 17, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
I only saw pieces of the debate. But did you notice how Hillary always commented on the moderators most disliked questions towards Obama just after to get another dig in? But when she was asked about the Bosnia story and her awful credibilty polls, Obama didn’t take the bait and jump in to slam her back. She lied bold-faced to the American people. He was in a tough spot and retaliation would have been easy, gratifying and very effective against her. Yet he didn’t. That’s character. You can’t buy it or pretend to posses it.
Posted by: Ryan L | April 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Unbelievable.
The Clinton campaign has spent their entire campaign blaming everyone else (media, chauvinists, misogynists etc.) for the negative view people have of their campaign & candidate……
….and now Bill says they never whined?
I’ve heard it said time and time again, and it’s true, he is a revisionist.
Posted by: Ryan | April 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Obama supporters are a bunch of babies. What a bunch of hypocrites. If this were Obama vs McCain and ABC went after McCain the same way ( which the press will do ) Obama-dems would be praising ABC for a job well done. AND YOU PEOPLE KNOW IT. I think you’re just upset that your guy got it handed to him last night for the first time.
Posted by: David Arnold | April 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Am I hallucinating? Did the man who managed Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign actually moderate a debate in which Bill Clinton’s wife participated? The Bush/Cheney/McCain/Clinton Axis overplayed their hand last night when they tried to tar and feather Obama. If I’m a representative voter, and I am, a small town religious conservative who hunts, they convinced me that Barack Obama is the only candidate left standing who is interested in doing the most good for the most people. The Axis will be defeated in November.
Posted by: AlPal | April 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Wow!
What a difference in attitudes now and when I demonstrated against the war, civil rights in the 60′s.
People are hateful, Rev. Wright has nothing on Obama supporters on this website.
I am now afraid to vote for Obama consideing the hatfulness of his supporters. What would he bring to the White House with him?
It is absolutely necessary to know who a future President hangs out with. Obama said “words Matter.”
I think some of the Obama supporters on this web site have hung out also, with Rev. Wright.
Scary.
In my long life, I have done nothing to deserve hearing hate spewed against my country.
Posted by: Margie 66 | April 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Wow!
What a difference in attitudes now and when I demonstrated against the war, civil rights in the 60′s.
People are hateful, Rev. Wright has nothing on Obama supporters on this website.
I am now afraid to vote for Obama consideing the hatfulness of his supporters. What would he bring to the White House with him?
It is absolutely necessary to know who a future President hangs out with. Obama said “words Matter.”
I think some of the Obama supporters on this web site have hung out also, with Rev. Wright.
Scary.
In my long life, I have done nothing to deserve hearing hate spewed against my country.
Posted by: Margie 66 | April 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Many posters are just mad because George and Charlie posed tough–but legitimate–questions to their little
obambi.
Posted by: midwesterner | April 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
What? Hillary doesn’t whine!!?? She has been a whinner for as long as she has been in the public eye!
Get real!
Posted by: Sandra Kubu | April 17, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Bill says Hillary doesn’t whine about debates? She was crying recently in a debate about the media double standard, SNL, and always being asked the first question. Last night in the debate, she made a point to notice she was being shortchanged on time. The only thing she was shortchanged on was was being asked about the shady doners to the Clinton Foundation… By the way, I found it extremely interesting that their only charitable donations were to the Clinton Fountation. Nice, give yourself 1o million over six years, and write it off. These people have so much not vetted in their closet, but the repubs and the media have a stake in getting her the nomination, for their own self interest. They know anybody with her high negatives can’t win. Ii’s over. It won’t work. Let’s just send this crooked duo back to
Chapaqua.
Posted by: Will | April 17, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
I thought the debate last night was neither much better or worse than the majority of them.
No matter who the moderators had been, the Democratic party had no way to hide the fact that these two are the best they have to offer the nation. What with these clowns, Pelosi, Reid and Dean, it gives me the willies just trying to imagine the future. Burkas anyone?
Posted by: BTaylor | April 17, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Obama got whupped!
LOL
Posted by: USmarine0331 | Apr 17, 2008 8:46:07 PM
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earth to mental midget. have you taken a look at the delegate scoreboard.
You are like one of those dumb athletes thats celebrating and talking trash but down 65-0 .LMAO
Posted by: A real US marine. | April 17, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
free to choose………I’m with you.
Hillary has my vote!
signed,
Phildelphia, PA
GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Justin | April 17, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
You were never going to vote for Obama, “free to choose”. If you vote for a candidate based on what you read on a message board by supporters/detractors, you need to have your head examined. Go Romney! Oh wait, he’s out of the race… dang it.
Posted by: Oh Please | April 17, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
OMG Does “I always get the first question” and Does Obama want another pillow and The Press is always harder on me not count as whining…ROTFLMAO Oh that’s right, Bill and Hillary try to rewrite history LOL See ya poll liars!
Posted by: Brian | April 17, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Kind of puzzled over how a little tough questioning can be considered bad? Clearly both of them have a lot of warts, but, come on, compared to even moderately tough press conference examinations, this was nothing. If they’re going to complain about this, they’re in sad shape.
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I am TJ Rooney, Bill Clinton’s ass wiper. While I am the Dem. Party Chair for PA, I should remain neutral, but Bill said he NEEDED ME to pander for Hillary. So…..here I am. Lieing to residents of PA and sucking up to Bill. Move over Monica!!
TJ Rooney
Posted by: TJ Rooney | April 17, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Having followed this election cycle for the last 2 years, I am absolutely stunned at the Obama supporters’ response to this 21st debate!..The hateful slurs,the venom, the outrage is astounding! Obviously a huge number of you are new to the political process..and that’s what it is…a process! There is nothing “new” or “different” about BO…He’s a poll like all the others..why would anyone run for political office if they weren’t a POLITICIAN???..Obama is the one destroying this party…he should have waited his turn, made his connections, gained some political points as any ambitious person would..instead his hubris will be the downfall of the democrats this year in a race that was ours to lose…If last night was a warmup for the general then he failed badly…he doesn’t have a prayer and the superdelegates need to step in and stop the party from following the pied piper over the cliff..as far as women voters are concerned…this goes way beyond Hillary…I don’t think even Hillary’s endorsment of him in November can ensure the vote…after supporting the dems for years and being told “your day will come” it’s time for a revolt..
Posted by: morn | April 17, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Clinton was in her element. She’s polished and well spoken. She rarely trips up though she does ramble a bit. I like her command of politic-speak even if there’s not much substance or realism to what she has to say. My biggest issues with her is that she’s a throwback to the days of Clinton (scandal, corruption, controversial pardons, FBI investigations on political enemies). She’s a nasty insider. Winning the senate seat without ever having had been elected to anything. How’s that for being an elitist- a benefit of being of the ruling class.
Lifelong Democrats finally have a real option with a non-establishment, left of center, fresh face with ideas, experience and the likability factor across party lines. Instead the election has been mired by the Clinton’s quest for another go at the White House, race & class baiting, and dividing the party in the process.
I’m a registered Democrat but I’ve voted for Nader in the last two elections. If HRC gets the nomination I will probably do that again. McCain and Clinton are too similar. As long as the Dems continue their ‘establishment’ candidate nominations, I’ll continue to vote for a real opposition party.
Posted by: SF Dave | April 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
This is my favorite line on this thread so far:
AlPal wrote: ” The Bush/Cheney/McCain/Clinton Axis overplayed their hand last night ”
LMAO!!! you Obama people are scarily stupid.
Posted by: David Arnold | April 17, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
I so bored with this. I going to go watch the new contributers ticker at the Obama campaign. Now there is some excitement. Only 12 more days and it will be over. I can’t wait.
Posted by: Jim B | April 17, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
abc NEWS, for once, doesn’t go along with CNN, CBS News and NBC News in treating Barack Obama with Kit Gloves, and the reaction from Obama’s supporters is Shock and Dismay!!
It must be jarring, indeed, for his supporters to not see Obama receive the usual fawning adulation.
HOW DARE CHARLES GIBSON AND GEORGE STEPHANOPOLOUS ASK ANY HARD POINTED QUESTIONS!!
Posted by: Scott Hansen | April 17, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Woah! Alot of these comments just reak of snobbery. QUIT WHINING ALREADY! It’s YOU who really make Obama taste the worst.
Posted by: Hello | April 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Quit whining Obamamaniacs. If Obama can not stand the heat, time for him to get out. If you think the Clintons are nasty, wait till the Republicans eat Obama alive. She was the clear winner last night and maintained great poise and clarity despite having endured months of biased coverage in favor of Obama. The truth is that Obama and the media make it seem like Hillary and Bill are playing dirty while Obama is above it all, which is simply not true. Obama’s people have been relentless in attacking Hillary’s weaknesses. Again, quit whining. How pathetic. Hillary has more b_lls than your messiah, Obama.
Posted by: david | April 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Observations on Hill & Bar
There is no clean end of a turd.
Posted by: Alan C. | April 17, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Bill Clinton is a sad shadow of the man Barack is. Hillary is a shamefully opportunistic and unprincipled wife to a now further revealed shamefully opportunistic and unprincipled man. He that celebrates the quality of last nights debate should be OFF the national stage.
Posted by: Bryan Dwyer | April 17, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
More Bill Clinton ! Mr. Clinton do not know when enough is enough. President Clinton, empowered al Quida – remember Senator Charles Wilson from East Texas and his involvement in financing and supplying arms to destroy the Russian Air Force (Illegal Wars)it happens on Bill Clinton’s clock – Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton together destroyed the moral and ethical standards for the Oval Office, for all future interns – and Hillary said it was a Right Wing Cinspiracy – who is more Right Wing than Bill and Hillary? Then little Ms. Chelsie Clinton said it is no bodies business. Hillary lied to the American people about her Bosnia Trip, she even acknowledged it. Why do we still like the Clintons? Would any American parents recomend to their adult children to do an internship at the Whitehouse with the likes of Hillary, Bill or any one of the Clinton clan? Total contempt for the Oval Office and Leadership & Mentoring! These are the issues, these are the facts- Why are we afraid to hold all the Clintons who are party to this, responsable for their action? Entitlement to what and for what? Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | April 17, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Take it to the floor Hill!
Posted by: s.b. | April 17, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
It seems Bill was watching a different debate than I was. Hillary blew another ideal opportunity. She’ll soon be consigned to the trash heap of Democrats who had only one shot at the presidency, but kept shooting themselves in the foot.
Posted by: Curt | April 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
It seems Bill was watching a different debate than I was. Hillary blew another ideal opportunity. She’ll soon be consigned to the trash heap of Democrats who had only one shot at the presidency, but kept shooting themselves in the foot.
Posted by: Curt | April 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Margie66…Excellent post and sentiments which I share completely. Obama seemed very encouraging to me initially….it has been a downhill ride since then regarding Obama (for me) and last night capped it. The nasty Obama supporters’ posts are just icing on the cake. Take care (I’d like to tell you “things will get better”, but I and not at all sure that’s true anymore). Cheers!
Posted by: Dr Wesley | April 17, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Shame on ABC for airning such foolishness. Barack is great and will forever be the victor in all of this and ayone who supports Hillary at this point are just absolutely in it for the wrong reason. She’s a liar, a cheat and if you google, “WHO CAN MURDER MANY AND GET AWAY WITH IT” Bill and Hillary Clinton would be a first choice option, so along with my list she’s a MURDERER. She’s tried every dirty trick in the book and the next since all else is failing will be DEATH. Why talk about a pin to wear or who you’re associated with? Don’t you think that UNSOLVED murders associated with the Clintons are far more important? Barack, keep your head up and stay strong. You’re doing everything that they dont want you to do and that is not acting out as black folks are usually stereotyped to do. I’m only mad at ABC and not the hosts of the show because hey, wouldn’t you have done the same thing if your choice was ” DO IT LIKE THIS OR DIE”?. Face it Hillary, you are SUCH a LOSER!!!!! Farewell to all my friends because if the Clintons get a hold of this Im surely OUT OF HERE! Be blessed EVERYONE.
Posted by: tasha | April 17, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
The negative comparisons to Fox News identifies a problem Democrats have had for a long time. The treatment Obama received last night is the same treatment Republicans receive all the time….for years while the Dems get a free pass. They figure that the mere fact that FNC askes BOTH SIDES tough questions and presses them on issues that they are some how ” biased ” against the Democrats. Obama has received a free ride until last night and watch his supporters vomit outrage all over themselves.
In other words, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Posted by: David Arnold | April 17, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
What Bill said is exactly right. Barack spent the entire debate avoiding the questions that might take the luster off of his messiah image. He needs to stop being such a negative nancy, man up, and anser the questions. I was going to vote Obama to begin with but after the past few weeks I’m going Clinton all the way.
Posted by: nathan | April 17, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
What Bill said is exactly right. Barack spent the entire debate avoiding the questions that might take the luster off of his messiah image. He needs to stop being such a negative nancy, man up, and anser the questions. I was going to vote Obama to begin with but after the past few weeks I’m going Clinton all the way.
Posted by: nathan | April 17, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Why so much hate and hostility posted by Senator Obama supporters? According to his campaign, all the smart, well educated people in the USA and all rich white and black people are in his camp.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS SENATOR CLINTON
AND PRAY, PRAY, PRAY THAT SENATOR OBAMA WILL LOSE AND CRAWL BACK TO HIS MANSION ON THE HILL.
Will be so very glad when this dirty/filthy election is over. My cat and I want and need some peace. Every time, he sees Obama, he hides under the bed or crawls into the attic. At 97 years of age, it is hard for me to get to the darn cat before he starves or otherwise SSSS in the wrong place.
Posted by: Grannie | April 17, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
those bitter folks who lean on their religion and guns, and anti-immigration,,
Posted by: marcum | April 17, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Hillary is a brilliant woman, but she dumbs herself down with cheap shots, pettiness and lies. If she had run a race with integrity and HONESTY, she would have nailed the nomination months ago. I am tired of her cheap shots. It is truly beneath her. I have to say that Obama has had the opportunities to take a lot of shots at her, but between the two, he has maintained the higher degree of integrity. It’s too bad because Hillary really should have been above all of this, but it turns out that during this campaign she has shown sides of herself that are desperate and even pathetic.
Posted by: Annette | April 17, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
“When I watched that debate last night, I got kinda tickled,” the former President said at an American Legion Hall event in St. Mary’s, Pennsylvania, “After the [debate], her opponents’, oh, the people working were saying, ‘Oh this is so negative, why are they doing this.’ Well they’ve been beatin’ up on her for 15 months. I didn’t hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab.” – Bill Clinton
I seem to remember his wife whining during a debate earlier this year about unfair media treatment (and him backing her up later) and citing of all things a Saturday Night Live skit as proof. What a couple of hacks.
Posted by: Mark | April 17, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
kind of puzzled over where the grown-ups are in the Democrat party? We have a frosh Senator who never did anything more than say “present” in the corrupt legislative palace in Springfield and whose backyard real estate deals certainly confirm that heritage vs our former First Lady who so fouled up the most incredible opportunity anyone ever had to reform health care, not to mention her 35 years of experience which include those missing billable hours and masterful cattle futures timing and getting fired from the Watergate committee (how in the world can you be so bad as to have that happen?). The more we know about these two, even the midgets like Biden, Dodd, and Richardson look might good. Al Gore of the Hanging Chad, where are you? There must be someone out there who can carry the legacy of dedicated and principled Dems into the future; frankly, I just don’t see them, but one can only hope they are out there.
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I know ya Clinton supporters are on a “high” from the debate last night…..
….but her coming out on top (fairness of th fight aside) in “one” debate is not going to save her campaign.
I’m not saying this to “stick it to ya”, but understand that there has been little that has gone right for her up until this point.
You don’t get to wipe the slate clean with 1 single debate.
Posted by: Ryan | April 17, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Stephanopoulos was in the Clintons inner circle so deep that he was nicknamed “Cigar”.
It wouldn’t surprise me that he gave Hillary the questions before last nights debate.
Posted by: Duane | April 17, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
An observant soul asks? Why was a former top level Clinton advisor (Stephanopolous) a moderator for a debate in which a Clinton is participating?
I guess if we stop to think, use our intelligence, it begins to make sense.
The reason Hillary was so high, gitty, euphoric couldn”t wait to give her rehearse answers is that she knew exactly what the format & questions were going to be and had plenty of time to prepare.
Everybody knows that Hillary will not agree to a debate unless it is on her terms. I”m sure Hillary would only agree to the debate if ABC agreed to have Stephanopolous & Gibson chair the event. Now George, you were a top level advisor for the Clintons and they granted you most favored status during that time. They pulled a few strings for you and you were able to get your lucrative job with ABC. The debate were just like old times & business as usual for the Clintons. SO SAD!
In spite of that Obama came through like a champ in all the polls that are credible. While Hillary”s cackling, gittiness, euphoria & Barack Bashing came across as very unprofessional & unpresidential.
It”s time get away from these polictics of division and get Barack to uniting Our Country & doing the work of the America People. Now run along George & take Charley with you. So SAD what you’ve done.
Posted by: Bashful | April 17, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
What was that debate all about? That wasn’t just bad, it was execrable. The perfect emetic.
Posted by: Cassius | April 17, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
If Hillary knows how to be the expert “stone-facer” who can take a punch, it’s probably because she has had to put up with Bill and all of the indignities that he has forced upon her throughout their marriage. She’s had to learn to be tough and being married to him has obviously provided her with the greatest lessons any woman could have ever had. Bill is the very last person who should talk about negativity and “contact sports”.
Posted by: cab | April 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Bill is on that STUFF!!! Obviously he needs some sleep as well. Hilliary WHINNED in New Hampshire “…no one likes me..” “Why do I always get the first question…” “…the press is so hard on me and not on Barack…”. All she does is WHIN!!!!
The Clintons disgust me!!!!
Posted by: Vantresa | April 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
As many husbands have, Bill has lost his hearing in the frequencies of his wife’s voice. This explains how he and he alone can say is wife doesn’t whine
The high pitched whine of HRC’s voice reverberates in my head “media double standard, media double standard, media double standard”
It’s stunning how these two will say anything that pops into their heads to serve the purposes at any given moment.
Posted by: CBIG | April 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
I have to give it to Hillary, she gave a good performance last night. But that doesn’t mean I’ll vote for her. I want a candidate that can win in the fall. And she is old news to the voters. Obamas fresh. Clinton is stale. And we don’t need Bill floating around the White House for 4 years adding his 2 cents where he sees fit. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.
Posted by: Ron | April 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
it is time the superdelegates dumped both these LOSERS! even old man,Hamas loving Carter, good draw more flies than this garbage.
Posted by: dumdems | April 17, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
ABC once again demonstrated that the forth estate is dead. Without someone speaking the truth democracy dies. Hey it was a good run for the US, all be it shorter than most.
Posted by: Jeano | April 17, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
SOme of you people take the most successful president we have had in fifty years a call him and Hillary the rudest names. you are no better then the republicans who spent his entire presidency accusing him of things that never panned out to anything. good luck trying to get this country reputation back.
Posted by: Tom NYC | April 17, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I can’t believe he gave the finger to Hillary on stage. Talk about Classless – that is a terrific example of an elitist. God will forgive him but will he treat the rest of us like that!
Posted by: GG | April 17, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
I was nearly knocked over with surprise that it could happen in this sad time for network news, but kudos to ABC News for somehow remembering what tough journalism means. It was enough to bring back memories of the Real Dan Rather from the Watergate Era (not the wielder of folksy, tired witticisms or more recently the sad shadow of the superscript th in 2004). Somehow Stephanopoulos and Gibson reached back and asked a few tough ones – of course some of the topics were not pleasant, but do you want to see how these candidates handle themselves when fielding softballs or when something tough comes along?
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets see Barack wants to take the trillions we are wasting in iraq , to pass it onto STATES to address creating New JOBS,
Building more hospitals that can reduce waiting in emergency, more money to build and repair failing schools and change the curriculum.. including no child left behind,
help States build new infrastrutures which create jobs, bridges … roads etc., And money to fix a ever polluted enviroment; that also will create jobs.
what a NOVEL IDEA a candidate that wants to take your hard earn tax dollars that the Republicans hand out to billionare companies and waste on a unnecessary war.. that have us in this current RECESSION.
Barack wants the tax payers to benefit from their tax dollars.how refreshing!!.
But leave it up to some morons who want 4 more years of the Bush policy, that is what John McCain is running on. And he is not shy about it.I know the country literacy rate is 76% but can people be this stupid.
MAYBE….
Posted by: michael45 | April 17, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
This doesnt have anything to do with tough questions start using your brains we have a right to give our opinions and I havent seen anything but racial comments about obama so read the comments and stop lieing like hillary and saying all of obama supporters are making the neg.comments.Oh Please I agree with they were not going to vote for him any way, so who cares they vote for. They are just angry the clinton machine has to go back to the old politics to try to win but thats not going to happen its a lot of people that are more educated than the clintons think.NOW READ THIS BLACKS HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR PRESIDENTS SINCE WE COULD VOTE AND THEY WERE NOT BLACK SO YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FULL OF IT, THERE WERE PROMISES AND LIES AND 40 YRS LATER THINGS ARE THE SAME BECAUSE WE STILL ARE USING RACE TO DECIDE AND THATS PATHETIC BECAUSE WE ALL BLEED THE SAME. I DONT KNOW WHAT COLOR YOUR BLOOD IS BUT I THINK EVERYONE BLOOD IS THE SAME COLOR.THE CLINTONS LIED ALSO THAT RIGHT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THATS A LIE THEN PROVE IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVENT EVER DONE ANYTHING FOR ME IVE ALWAYS WORKED AND TOOK CARE OF MYSELF AND NOT BECAUSE BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT AND HILLARY WAS FIRST LADY SO YOU PEOPLE CANT TELL ME WHO HELPED ME, I KNOW IT WASNT THE CLINTONS.
Posted by: madycat | April 17, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
If Hillary learns to be honest with the American people; to respect, understand and genuinely go to bat in an effective way for the common person; she will be a winner. After all the dishonesty, double talk, contradictions, racial hatred, ungratefulness; and elite snobbery that has come out about Obama; Hillary could become the new breath of fresh air. Hil please take heed because I think with some adjustments, you would make a great President; and being a good president would improve the lot and status of all women. The nation would have to take us seriously on in all venues of life.
Posted by: Elton Merl | April 17, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
All Hillary Clinton has done IS whine: remember her debate response, “I keep getting the first question, but I don’t mind . . .” ?
Posted by: acey4utosay | April 17, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Since we are into slime and sleeze today, how come nobody brings up Bill pardoning Hilarry’s brothers along with the Weathermen,what they were pardoned for,and why aren’t Mrs. Clinton’s brothers out in Pennsylvania campaigning for her?
Posted by: The Wizard | April 17, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Time to exile Bill Clinton & George W. Bush they serve no useful purpose in this country and probably endanger it.
Posted by: brad | April 17, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Ahhh….I can while away the hours ,
conversing with the flowers …if
i only had a brain
Geez, wanta be a Dem…gotta be.
Love all the dems….Obama,BILL,
HILLARY….IS IT OBAMA HUSSAIN?
NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT …..
OOPS….HILLARY RODHAM WHAT?
ANYWAY WE HAVE ISSUES HERE
Posted by: MIKE MARSH | April 17, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Great Debate ABC…. it’s time some media ask tough questions. Why should Obama be handed the presidency on a platter? He needs to stand up and take responsibility for his mentors, friends, and actions. Again, good for you for asking tough questions.
Posted by: raf | April 17, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets see Barack wants to take the trillions we are wasting in iraq , to pass it onto STATES to address creating New JOBS,
Building more hospitals that can reduce waiting in emergency, more money to build and repair failing schools and change the curriculum.. including no child left behind,
help States build new infrastrutures which create jobs, bridges … roads etc., And money to fix a ever polluted enviroment; that also will create jobs.
what a NOVEL IDEA a candidate that wants to take your hard earn tax dollars that the Republicans hand out to billionare companies and waste on a unnecessary war.. that have us in this current RECESSION.
Barack wants the tax payers to benefit from their tax dollars.how refreshing!!.
But leave it up to some morons who want 4 more years of the Bush policy, that is what John McCain is running on. And he is not shy about it.I know the country literacy rate is 76% but can people be this stupid.
WE will see…
Posted by: michael45 | April 17, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
You better put some ice on that.
Posted by: Pug | April 17, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Construction union facing bribery trial backs Hillary
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BY BARBARA ROSS and MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Friday, October 26th 2007, 4:00 AM
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Meet Hillary Clinton’s latest backers: New York’s carpenters union, whose boss, Michael Forde, faces a bribery trial next month in a mob-linked corruption scandal.
Forde, the head of one of the most powerful construction unions in the state, threw his 25,000-member New York District Council of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners behind Clinton’s White House run Thursday.
The eyebrow-raising, closed-door endorsement broke ranks with the national union.
“Hillary is a friend of the carpenters – always has been,” said a union member leaving the endorsement.
“She’s a friend of labor,” said another. The national carpenters union has backed John Edwards.
Forde and union business agent Martin Devereaux are set for trial Nov. 26 on charges they took bribes from contractors to allow nonunion, off-the-books labor on job sites.
Forde was originally indicted in a massive 2000 probe of mob influence in the construction industry. Among the 38 people charged was alleged Luchese crime family acting boss Steven (Stevie Wonder) Crea, who pleaded guilty to price fixing, labor racketeering, bid rigging and constraint of trade.
Forde and Devereaux were convicted in 2004 – facing up to 25 years in prison – but got their cases tossed after a judge ruled jurors improperly discussed the case before deliberating.
Forde, whose union is subject to federal anti-corruption monitoring, also has gotten in hot water more recently. A Manhattan judge fined him $10,000 last month, saying he rigged a union job referral system for a buddy.
Clinton first hooked up with Forde during her 2000 Senate run, when his union backed her that May. He was indicted four months later.
Clinton’s acceptance of the new endorsement comes just as she’s getting out from under headlines generated by the arrest of Norman Hsu, her disgraced mega-fund-raiser who turned out to have fled justice in 1992 and is now accused of running a $60 million Ponzi scheme.
mmcauliff@nydailynews.com
With Greg Smith
Posted by: dave | April 17, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets see Barack wants to take the trillions we are wasting in iraq , to pass it onto STATES to address creating New JOBS,
Building more hospitals that can reduce waiting in emergency, more money to build and repair failing schools and change the curriculum.. including no child left behind,
help States build new infrastrutures which create jobs, bridges … roads etc., And money to fix a ever polluted enviroment; that also will create jobs.
what a NOVEL IDEA a candidate that wants to take your hard earn tax dollars that the Republicans hand out to billionare companies and waste on a unnecessary war.. that have us in this current RECESSION.
Barack wants the tax payers to benefit from their tax dollars.how refreshing!!.
But leave it up to some morons who want 4 more years of the Bush policy, that is what John McCain is running on. And he is not shy about it.I know the country literacy rate is 76% but can people be this stupid.
Bush won twice its possible….
Posted by: michael45 | April 17, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
It’s sad for those fony BO supporters to throw presidency to McCain. All the republican states BO won will go to him?–STOP DUI BO wagon.
Posted by: ehdsimtih | April 17, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
That Debate was so Retarded!! Obama is right ABC NEWS AND HILLARY REALLY DO SUCK!!
OBAMA 08′
Posted by: Matt | April 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
OBAMA-STOP WHINING!
So true. It’s the first time the media attacks Obama and first thing he does is whine. C’mone, he’s not ready to be the President of the United States. I’d rather have Busch the high school bully run than someone who is serounded by terrorist and anti-Americans. I’m not taking any chances!
Posted by: Valentin - Phoenix, AZ | April 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
The entire Clinton family is delusional. Hillary lied about the hospital situation in Ohio, the situation in Bosnia. Bill did his unbelievable explanation about Hill speaking at 11 pm and apologizing immediately. Hill contradicted Bill during the “debate” last night.
Chelsea can’t wait to get back into the White House. A help to her political career?
A friend of mine was a honor guard in the White House during the Senior Bush administration and the Clinton administration. He quit the Marines, during the Clinton’s administration, and he had an amazing military career. He quit because he couldn’t stand the fights, the thrown lamps, the lack of respect for the military, the put-downs Hillary made to her body guards.
I do not respect politicians who use polls to determine what they should say to get the most votes. I do not respect Hillary to talk about baking cookies, about crying during a town hall meeting, I do not respect Hillary for putting her daughter in the position to have to respond to questions about her father’s infidelities, I do not respect her for having a man who from NJ who voted in NJ, being in an ad in Pennsylvania. I do not respect a woman who agreed to the rules set by the DNC and now that she is behind, wanting to change the rules. I do not respect a person who is trying a buying a presidency by appealing to super delegates and not listening to the voice of the people.
The American people are not stupid.
Posted by: disgusted | April 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Yeah she didn’t whine, she just cried in New Hampshire….
Posted by: Bill | April 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Saturday Night Live Skit:
The ABC Debate.
George: Obama, would you wear this Texas BBQ house bib? Obama: NO: G: Why not. Obama: Why should I? George: It’s the american thing to do. George puts it on Obama.
George: How about this propeller beany? Why not. Obama finally: OK. George puts it on Obama.
George: How about a pair of lacy underwear? Obama: That’s it, can we talk issues now? Obama removes the items and tosses them away.
Hillary: Are you chicken Obama? I’m wearing a pair now.
Cut to Chelsea sitting in the crowd but with an angelic spot light on her.
Charlie: It’s been reported by a childhood friend of yours that you once rode in the same subway train with a suspected member of the Symbianes Liberation Army? Is this true?
Obama: Maybe, if he was on the subway. Lots of people ride the subway. Is this really important to American voters?
Cut to Chelsea. She has a cute (fake) kitten in her hands and she is stroking it gently.
Charlie: Hillary, you said you ducked and ran from sniper fire in tuzala. Why did you lie?
Hillary: I was very sleepy. I’m sleepy now. Is there a cot in here. Bill calls me up at 3am every night from god knows where. I always jump out of bed startled and answer his calls. Frankly, I’m exhausted.
Cut to Chelsea. She is buying boxes of cookies from young girl scouts.
George: I worked for you and Bill in the Whitehouse. Do you think I should be harder on Obama?
Hillary: And you did a great job for us George. (She runs over and kisses George on the for head. runs back.) You could be a little harder. It’s been a cake walk for him so far.
Cut to Chelsea: She is performing the heimlick maneuver on a tubby member of the audience.
After something comes flying out of tubby’s mouth Chelsea says: Live from NY ……
more stuff if needed:
Cuts to Chelsea: She is discussing important matters with the Pope.
She’s furously scrubbing a spot on a blue dress.
Posted by: Greg | April 17, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Gibson and Stephanopolis are on par with O’Reilly. NOT fair and balanced. Shame on you for this garbage.
Posted by: Baas | April 17, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
nice call, raf – spot on!
Michael45: without addressing the inaccuracy of “trillions” spent (or “wasted”) on Iraq; I am respectfully puzzled that certainly you must understand that that kind of money will not be available to a Prez O UNLESS he takes it out of our hides – there is nothing like that kind of money available in discretionary money ANYWHERE in the current budgets and we have just about run the debt as far as it can go; if he and Congress want to borrow that kind of money again, we will be in for real economic ruin, that will make the current situation look like a minor hiccup. Bottom line, not matter who gets in, they are NOT going to be able to spend like the drunken sailors of the past 8-12 years. It would be wonderful to have the kind of domestic Marshall Plan you dream about, but who is going to pay for it? Do the numbers – it’s sobering; don’t just wave your hands like the candidates.
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Bill Clinton was getting oral sex from Monica, in the Oval Office, while Hillarious was located within the White House. What does she have to say about it?
Posted by: william.u.r | April 17, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Nothing like an impartial opinion coming from Slick Willie on his partner in crime, Ozillary Rob’em???
Totally unsolicited I’m sure???
They still keep trying to put lipstick on that pig, but it’s still a pig!!!
Time for the fat lady to start singing her swan song!!!
Posted by: Tom Albright | April 17, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Oh yeah, great job ABC!!! If this is playing on NBC, MSNBC, FOX and CNN that means it was AWESOME!!!!!!!
Thanks.
Posted by: Valentin - Phoenix, AZ | April 17, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
It takes 2 quarters of economic downturn to equate even a mild recession.
What a bunch of simpletons.
Posted by: Observer | Apr 17, 2008 9:40:15 PM
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Oh really!!.. if our economy was so wonderful, then that R word in recession would never been brought up , whether its mild , severe, sweet and sour, how ever you want to dress it up .
I think its time you move out of your parents basement and get a life which means joining us in the real world.
Posted by: michael45 | April 17, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
To Ron about the comment on Obama, you are right. I would not want a predident who followed a racist and hates white people. What chance would we really have? You know if he really don’t like white people. Does that mean he really dosen’t like hispanics, Jews, gays? Most of us have been raised to love one another. Our generation has been expected to take the blunt because of a a time in history where slavery evolved and I wasn’t even born. My generation is still paying for the past. Lets get real there are real heavy issues for the next leader of this country. We need someone who can do the job, that really likes us.
Posted by: ELLE | April 17, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Bill,
You’ve spent too much time with your interns and obviously not enough time with your wife. And you haven’t paid attention to the previous debates, much less the one debate prior to last night… Where your wife “whined” about all the previous debates. How it wasn’t “fair’ and how she was always unfairly called on first. No that apparently wasn’t whining.
Shows how much you know about your own wife. You’ve been sleeping in separate beds for far too long.
The American people know more about your wife than you do.
Sad… But True.
Posted by: JET | April 17, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
…politicians are like dirty diapers..
both need to be changed …often…and for the same reasons.
Posted by: GINI | April 17, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Okay, so Geoge and Charlie focused first on the latest controversies surrounding Barack. We as voters, need to see how Barrack can stand up to this kind of heat. Thus far, he’s been pretty protected from it,you have to admitt. And they were relavent questions that people who still see Obama as a blank slate, want to see how he response to. Apparently, defensively. You can’t argue that Hillary has already been put through the media hell mill, more so that any candidate in modern times if truth will be told. George and Charlie were actually doing Barack a favor. If Barack thinks they were tough, wait till he gets the nomination and the Republicans on turned loose on him on these very questions. They will make all these associations look as dastardly as possible. That’s what they excell at in campaigns. Wittness the swiftboating of John Kerry. Wittness Mike Dukakis in a tank and not suporting the flag or even wanting the death penalty for the hypothetic killer of his wife. Wittness Willie Horton. Hell, all George Bush 1 had to do was campaign in front of flag factories throughout the general and say the pledge. That was devestating for Dukakis. Obama won’t put his hand on his heart for the national anthem or wear a flag pin.Minor, isignificant issues for some, I understand, but very important for many. Do you think the Repubs aren’t going to have a field day with that? George and Charlie were giving Barack just a tiny taste of the future, should Barack be the nominee, and they were much nicer and diplomatic about it than the Republicans will be. Hillary, for that matter, has already demonstrated she can take much of what the Repubs can through at her. Get a grip Obama supporters. You’re man is going to have to toughen up, at least as strongly as Hillary. And so our you if you’re going to see Obama through to the finish line. He’s had 15 months of nothing but glorification. Time to find out who he really is. Hope and Change aren’t going to cut it in the general. Thanks, Val
Posted by: val mcdowell | April 17, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
ABC really shot all their credibility when they had Stephanopolous as one of the moderators. He has been calling superdelegates to convince them to vote for Hillary.
The bottom line on Hillary is that she lost the debate because she once again played the negative game. Her negatives are going so high that she cant claim that she is a better candidate than Obama. The superdelegates will start breaking for Obama and this race will be over.
Obama does need to learn how to break through the attacks in a debate situation. He needs to be a bit lighter and above them. After all, what are these questions about the flag pin and Ayers, but just more mud? Obama needs to get back to the inspirational messages and ridicule his critics as “the old political game” that he promises to change.
Barack needs to challenge the Democratic party to clean up its act and get rid of the old-style politicians (like Carvill, Penn and all of Hillary’s gang). Throw the Clintons out and let’s make this a fight between the forward-thinking Democrats and the old-guard Republicans.
Obama promised to bring about change – but the establishment will resist it with all their might. So buckle yourselves in for a wild ride, but just realize that the lies they throw at him are only there to distract us from the real issues.
Posted by: Lawrence | April 17, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
WORST DEBATE IN HISTORY.HILLARY’s list of prostitutes just keeps on growing!She pays—they put out!Everybody focusing on the “dumb” stuff, stuck on stupid. When she bombs Iran. “the chickens really are going to come home to roost”. Now where did you hear that famous quote from? Great post Ned, evryone has forgotten 9/11 eating a load of Hillary’sh–.
Posted by: Marie | April 17, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Um, folks, these “rape” images you are making in reference to Bill and Stephanopolis ganging up on Obama are not going to help your candidate much. Me personally, I am not much inspired by a candidate who does so badly in a debate that his best card to play the next day is convincing everyone he is the ultimate victim. Especially from a man.
Now some of you are saying that Hillary played the victim after the debates in Texas and Ohio, but there is a key difference in what she did and what Obama is now doing. Hillary did not go to a speech the next day and lick her wounds in front of a crowd of only her ardent supporters to get an ego boost after being taken to task and folding under the pressure. No, she looked Russert right in the eye DURING the Ohio debate and called him on his crap. That’s not whining. That’s calling the nonsense on what it is. THat’s called fighting back.
Basically, Obama comes across as kicking himself for floundering and acting like someone who doesn’t take up for himself. As someone who excels only when he in front of a room full of admirers, but not when having to stand in the line of fire and take the heat. Everyone was going on and on about his great race speech, like it showed how tough he is. But really now, that was a staged event in front of an invitation only crowd with him doing his favorite thing: making a speech. What kind of strength does it take to stand in an admiring, loving crowd and glow?
He looked like an ametuer in this debate, and he is now “blaming the refs” for it. Fair enough – he’s got to get his game face back somehow, so I don’t blame him. But this notion that his fans have, that he is entitled to an easy ride, and if he doesn’t get it, they have the right to boo the refs off the stage? There are two words for this: bad attitude. The rest of us folks who know how to take the punches are really tired of hearing boos and hisses every time someone has the nerve to actually question Obama on something. Get over it. Take your lumps and move on. It’s called “paying your dues”. THe SEIU rebel-rousers who are doing this booing just be familiar with the concept – if not, they need to get out their union contracts and bone up. Hillary’s paid enough dues at this point to fill the union strike fund.
You did us proud Hillary. Earning it every step of the way!
Posted by: K | April 17, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Bill,
You’ve spent too much time with your interns and obviously not enough time with your wife. And you haven’t paid attention to the previous debates, much less the one debate prior to last night… Where your wife “whined” about all the previous debates. How it wasn’t “fair’ and how she was always unfairly called on first. No that apparently wasn’t whining.
Shows how much you know about your own wife. You’ve been sleeping in separate beds for far too long.
The American people know more about your wife than you do.
Sad… But True.
Posted by: JET | April 17, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
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nice call, raf – spot on!
Michael45: without addressing the inaccuracy of “trillions
Posted by: puzzled | Apr 17, 2008 9:45:08 PM
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many people who drop out of grade 3 end up with your username.
As to the war we have been there over 5 years at a current rate of i billion plus dollar a week.
AHHH.. that money is nothing, i guess me and you make that in a year.
my head hurts because i have to share this planet with you fools.
But thanks to alcohol i can make this reality go away.
Posted by: michael45 | April 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
So, Matt: If Hillary sucks so much, how do you explain Monica?
The story goes that Bill was out for a walk in the Rose Garden in the winter and came upon the words “Bill Clinton is a Bastard” in yellow letters in the snow. He demands the FBI take DNA and find out who did it.
The FBI comes back and says it’s Newt Gingrich’s DNA.
“Well, I could have expected that”, says Bill.
“But the news is worse, Mr. President”.
“Worse? How could it be worse?”
“Well, sir…it’s Hillary’s handwriting.”
Posted by: BTaylor | April 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
I can’t wait for the day the two of them go away and are shut up for good.
Posted by: Chelsea | April 17, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
If Obama and Clinton don’t start wearing flag pins I am not voting for either of them. I am a stupid American and that is all that is important to me. The war isn’t important. And the economic destruction of this country isn’t important. Nor is all of the corruption. Only flag pins are important!!!
Posted by: Erin - WA | April 17, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
There’s no such thing as a true debate anymore, just a question and answer time. I thought the debate was fine, for what it was, and I’m sick of the Obama fans whining about unfairness. It’s the first time things have not gone his way and if he thinks this is bad, just wait until the Republicans go after him. But don’t take my word for it, just ask Al Gore.
Posted by: Fair | April 17, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
No Hillary, you can not walk my dog, because you are capable of giving me back a cat and then calling me a F—— liar. And as for Bill, don’t rape me so much.
Posted by: me2dot | April 17, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Hahahahaha…. Seeing these koolaid drinkers getting pissed off at others for making BO looks like a dumbass is so much fun. It’s even better than seeing BO looks like a dumbass last night. OK. Here’s an endorsement for Obama to be fair. God Damn America! Vote Obama!
Posted by: Me | April 17, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Bill Clinton was tickled watching it?
Why, was a too young vulnerable little intern, 1/3 his age, younger than his daughter Chelsea is now, on her knees servicing this abusive sexual predator while he watched it????
Did he have a cigar in his disgusting predator paws while it all took place??
Is Hillary going to call this post a vast right wing conspiracy to cover for the ex predator in chief, her so-called husband???
Can the Clintons possibly be more disgusting and sub-human?????
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Guess what? There was another debate scheduled for next week in North Carolina, and now Barack Obama doesn’t think we have to have another debate, and he doesn’t want to go. Does that tell you how pathetic he was in last night’s debate? What is he scared of? He wants us to make him the leader of the free world without the scrutiny every other candidate is subjected to?
Sorry, Barack, you will never get the vote of this lady and millions like me – the DNC must really have its collective head in the sand if they think that we will just roll over and play nice in November if they continue to shove this guy down our throats. I am an American first and foremost, and Barack Obama will never get my vote.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | April 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Bill is a cheating two faced perjuring liar and he is the better half of that Clinton couple. The Clintons are a disgrace to our country.
That debate was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Instead of important talk about issues, we got talk about FLAG PINS.
SOMEONE should LOSE their job over this!!!!
ABCNEWS should be embarassed by that joke of a debate..and Since when do we have ex employees interview their bosses wife and call it Journalism?
What a joke.
Posted by: BillDacat | April 17, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I can see why Bill Clinton would go for any really sexy woman. Hillary is old, ugly and as sexy as an old witch. Why does she always wear that yellow Captain Kangaroo outfit? Why, with her looks, she even broke my TV screen! You’d cry too if you looked like that!
Posted by: steve | April 17, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
michael45, the problem with your little platform ( or any Democrat for that matter ) on spending tax dollars is that Dem’s prefer a system where the few pay the most. In fact, based on the current system, chances are very high that YOU don’t even pay to support the Federal programs that you like. I frankly think that those who actually PAY the bills should have more say about how THEIR money is spent. See, it’s very easy for people like to to be generous when it’s someone elses money you’re spending.
BTW. Iraq has nothing to do with the recession. It’s all about people who LIED on they’re mortgage aps to qualify for loans they didn’t deserve and crooked lenders enabling them to do so. If this is the extent of your knowlege regarding economic issues, please don’t vote
Posted by: David Arnold | April 17, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Maybe it’s you living in my basement? I have 3 children and paid more in taxes this year than you will make.
You zombie.
Posted by: Observer | Apr 17, 2008 10:00:23 PM
Even worse !..You are very RICH and out of touch.
Would that be you Pres Bush?/ , you little devil!!.. stoping by to engage with us regular folks.
Posted by: Michael45 | April 17, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
“Me” wrote: “God Damn America! Vote Obama!”
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Isn’t this an example of redundancy?
Posted by: BTaylor | April 17, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Love him, Hate Him, Whatever everyone has there opinion of Bill Clinton. But he is right about this being a contact sport. I don’t want a president who is unable to handle the questions that are posed to him or to her. Whether they are trivial, inane or not. We have been handed three Very Weak Potential candidates for the most important position in the country. And Anyone who really believes Senator Obama’s Fairy tales about getting the money back to the people have been smoking fairy dust.
Every Campaign promises are made over and over ad nauseum. How many of these false promises are really fulfilled? Yeah thats right not to many. As for the Additional 12% in Taxes Senator Obama is proposing I pay for social security, well he can shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. No way in hell will I vote to pay more taxes. It is Washingtons pork spending and lack of control that has wasted our money. At The top of the wasteful spending Senators are yours Truly Clinton And Obama. They are all Liars and thieves, Not the second Coming that Obama portrays himself to be. The guy can keep saying he is above the dirty politics, the problem is he is rolling in the dirt.
Posted by: Ted | April 17, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Let’s just admit it — when Obama talked about people clinging to guns and religion he was talking about (can I dare say it?) red-neck white folk, bubbas, trailer-trash, NASCAR fans, Jim-Bobs and Jethros and such… His statement was seething with racism and contempt for the “other” poor people with whom BH Obama has never and will never make any meaningful connection. What a nerve to suggest that he knows their hearts and minds are not truly centered around the traditions of their fore-fathers, their religion, their way of life, and that they are, like his soul-mate Reverend Wright, no more than victims raging against the man and the vile United States. Keep on talking Obama. Your true self is coming out with every mis-spoken word, every freudian slip.
Posted by: Paul | April 17, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Wow. Finally ABC asks real questions. Amazing.
Posted by: USA Akbar | April 17, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
The debate was a setup by the Clintons and
little George. She knew all the questions and was answering even before little George finished asking.
Obama can take a punch and we know it. What we saw was an unfair fight. Thats what the Clintons specialize in. It was sleazy and the public was on to it and reacted correctly. These are the same people who had FBI files on the Republicans in congress and threatened to leak them if they impeached Bill. Politics is a contact sport…. Politics is sleazy and destructive when played by Clinton rules.
Posted by: markjsand | April 17, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Hey Dumbacrates, You have two losers!!!Keep them fighting % spending all that cash before the DNC!!!We Conservatives are just waiting to kick your butt in November. McCain will win by a landslide. Why??? If the fat ass in the pantssuit steals the nomination, the minority of blacks will vote for our man.
You dumbass women that want the scumbag really should stay home and make cookies.
I wonder what would happen if the scumbag, Ellen & Rosie were in bed together and someone yelled “Fire”, there would be a hell of a mix up finding the correct pantsuit!!!
GO BIG JOHN McCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: JAD | April 17, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Obama is very charming and very well spoken. His presentation is a breath of fresh air compared to GWB. He is a very good communicator. Unfortunately for him, he doesn’t have much of a track record. There is little if any beef in his sandwich. One of the few things that people can evaluate him by are his associations with other people. Has he associated with and does he surround himself with good people who are likely to be a positive influence on him should he win the presidency?
Clearly the evidence is starting to come out on some of his associations and that is creating great doubt in the minds of many good Americans who don’t want to be surprised with a new president with radical and unrealistically negative views of our great nation. All of us are going to be judged by those with whom we associate.
In that regard, Obama scares the hell out of me.
Posted by: Jake70 | April 17, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Apparently ABC News doesn’t understand that something isn’t an “issue” simply because the network shills decide to appropriate right-wing talking points. The American people have been insulted for the past eight years with this non-stop barrage of created “controversy” from a bunch of elitist media talking heads who fancy themselves capable of TELLING us what to think. Enough.
The airwaves belong to the public. The failure to recognize the conflict-of-interest between one of your moderators and one of the candidates is bad enough – no professional journalist would have ever crossed that line. But the attempt to use manufactured stories the network hyped for itself, coupled with serving as a mouthpiece for a rightwing talk show host should permanently disqualify this “news” organization from ever participating in any election coverage – and certainly from ever participating in a debate.
This network has been drifting Right in its news coverage for a long time – without any regard for any connection with the larger American audience. The time for pandering is over – the public has every right to expect the network to withdraw from interfering in the election process. Yes – that’s right. Interfere. You see, when you manufacture controversies, and then call them “issues”, you are no longer serving the public – you are attempting to interfere with that public.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | April 17, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Hey George, didn’t you read the warning label on the jar of kool-aid before last nights debate?
Posted by: Mack | April 17, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
What turns me off most about the Obama campaign are some of his mean spirited, glassy-eyed followers. The vindictiveness shown by this group of devotees towards the Clintons is enough to make people vote for Hillary just to distance themselves from their nastiness. I think that the left wing of the democratic party is firmly in Obama’s camp. That is scary to me. You saw what happened when the right wing of the Republicans got control in Washington. Do you really think these small minded people on the far left will exercise better judgement? Hardly!
Posted by: ryan brown | April 17, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
What turns me off most about the Obama campaign are some of his mean spirited, glassy-eyed followers. The vindictiveness shown by this group of devotees towards the Clintons is enough to make people vote for Hillary just to distance themselves from their nastiness. I think that the left wing of the democratic party is firmly in Obama’s camp. That is scary to me. You saw what happened when the right wing of the Republicans got control in Washington. Do you really think these small minded people on the far left will exercise better judgement? Hardly!
Posted by: ryan brown | April 17, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
I didn’t watch it. I have much better things to do with my time than watch the 22nd debate between these two losers. 22nd debate? That’s worse than waterboarding.
Posted by: Sally | April 17, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
ABC, Hillary, Bill, Charlie and company represent what is wrong with America. For the media to try to spin the Democratic presidential debate with their one dimensional thinking is exactly why we need Obama in office. The politics in this country must change. I am totally disgusted by the debate last night and will no longer support ABC.
Posted by: FedUp | April 17, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
A vote for Obama is a Vote for an automatic Tax Hike!
Does anyone really believe that for all of her support Oprah will be expected to raise her taxes 12% to cover social security? Can you say special interest….
Posted by: Ted | April 17, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
I simply could not believe the questions asked by ABC in this debate. Does anyone care if Hillary lied about Bosnia? Does anyone care if Barack continued to belong to a church that was defined by it’s works, not by what it’s pastor occasionally said? I can think of a million things I did not agree with in growing up in a church family. That did not make everything the church did, or I did, wrong. The Iraq War continues to drain America (and Hillary voted for it). The economy is in a shambles , thanks to an unregulated banking industry, the dollar is worthless, China is now competitive for world oil, thanks to America’s trade policies, and ABC CARES about the first mentioned questions. Are you insane? Barack is right. So long as America focuses on idiocy as ABC did in this debate, we are all doomed. We cannot advance, if we focus on idiocy, and not the real issues. Does ABC wear a lapel pin, or do you truly love America?
Posted by: Laurel1181 | April 17, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Hillary was awesome. She does know the issues, has the learning curve down and absolutely can step into the presidency and bring our country back from some very difficult Bush years. Obama is a good guy and is still needing more experience. It will take Obama another 4 to 8 years of experience to run our country.
It’s Hillary all the way.
Posted by: Mike | April 17, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Get over it, Obama fans – even Rachel Maddow on MSNBC last night said that Obama had a bad night, so stop being little children who blame everything on everyone else except themselves when things get tough. It’s not Hillary Clinton’s fault that the media didn’t vet Obama way back in the beginning of the campaign, and it’s not her fault that his lack of composure and lack of experience were on view last night for everyone to see. The issues of character may not matter to you Obama fans, but they do to millions of Americans. If Obama can’t answer the questions now, how do you think he’s going to do in the months preceding the general election? You can’t even defend his poor performance, you just keep reverting back to the old Monica jokes that no one is paying any attention to, or whine that he was treated unfairly. Jeez, this is not high school, grow up.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | April 17, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Clinton and Obama are communists! VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Michael Savage for PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Why would Bill whine when he was getting his whistle waxed?
Posted by: james | April 17, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
What do I think of last night’s debate ? I think that my time is precious and I could have spent it playing with my 3 year old rather than try to become better informed by watching a rerun of Entertainment Tonight disguised as a ‘Presidential Debate’ – It was real garbage and it makes feel more cynical and , yes, bitter.
Posted by: PulSamsara | April 17, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Rezko, Farrakhan, Ayers, Wright…the neighborhood from hell.
Posted by: Mack | April 17, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Well, koji – if Obama’s “guilt-by-associations” scare the hell out of you, surely you are shaking over the thought of Hillary Clinton and John McCain, both of whom have a list of associations that would make every American doubtful for the future of this country.
Of course, ABC won’t be asking McCain about his associations with a man who called the Catholic Church the “great whore”. . .or the rabidly Right crazy “christian” congressman who spoke open hate toward America in his church. In fact, ABC hasn’t even investigated McCain’s church, mostly because conservatives haven’t ordered them to do so.
This is the part where a media network, once again, interferes in the American people’s election for the purpose of attempting to appoint the President.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | April 17, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
bahahahaha..I love watching the Democrat party eat their own..this sorry ship is sinking faster than the titanic…this is what you get when you put forth your candidates soley on the the color of their skin and the fact that they have breasts (sagging ones at that)…bahahahhaha..this is better than comedy central..bahhahaahhahahaahha
Posted by: Chadwick Wellman | April 17, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Hey Billster
I rest my case.
Posted by: ryan brown | April 17, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
You Hillary lovers will never get any Obama lovers to change their minds, but you Obama lovers are getting the ex-Hillary lovers to switch to your side in droves. How are you accomplishing trhat? You must be telling the truth about Hillary’s past corruption and lies.
Posted by: steve | April 17, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Probably James Carville Posting All These pro Clinton Posts Under Different Names. Go Ron Paul, In The Absence Of Ron Paul Even Though I Don’t Agree With Most Of His Ideas I’ll Have To Vote For Obama.
Since Clinton & McCain Are Stooges For The One Worlder Satan Worshipers
No Choice What’s One To Do!
I’m One Of The Angry White Males Who Obama Was Talking About
Posted by: Super Steve | April 17, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
When people head into that VOTING BOOTH, Rev Wright and all the sideshows including misspeaking etc…is NOT the reason people LOST their JOBS , HOMES, take a hit to their retirement nest eggs via/ stocks.. thanks to the collapse Economy.
Obama 08 where whites , blacks , brown people sending him to clean up washington.
CHANGE= new policies baby; to raise this country ranking into the 21century.
Posted by: dustsettle | April 17, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Politics aside…This “Debate” and I use that term very loosely was what the National Enquire would look like if they had a TV show. I was shocked when the “journalists” another term I’m using loosely spent over 40 minutes talking about Rev. Wright, people who spoke negatively 3 decades ago about the government whom Obama attended a function with, and the “Bitter” comment. Then moved on to other topics like Bosnia and lapel pins. LAPEL PINS???? As if these tabloid rating raising issues have not been played to death by mainstream media. Countless polls suggest that not only are Americans tired of Old Gotcha Politics but tired of the news stations who facilitate this type of Politics. I strongly believe that ABC news owes everyone who watched that sorry display of journalism a public apology. Until this happens I’m asking everyone who felt offended by this to boycot the ABC, ESPN, Disney, and any other channel or product associated to Disney.
Posted by: informed_citizen | April 17, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Oh please, she whined in just about every debate before this one. And isn’t that the point? Why DIDN’T she whine about this debate? Why did she have that “cat ate the canary” look through the whole thing? Why did she look like she was in on the joke?
Maybe because she was.
Posted by: CarrieAnnie | April 17, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Good to see Obama ask harder questions just like Hillary has been getting all a lone.He’s crying today 45 min. He still didn’t really answer the questions. He is and unknown. How can he be elected as president when no one knows anything about him.Resko got money from some muslim over seas and Obams is friends with Resko.Obama got land from Resko and money was donated to his campaigne for senator and president.He says he gave the money back for president campaign.He also had to know that Resko was a slum lord.So Obama got dirty money and seems to think that OK.No! It’s not.He needs to answer Why he took money from him in the first place.People have to be kidding to vote for Obama with what little is known it isn’t good.
Posted by: Shady | April 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
I think that Obama and Clinton should debate every night. They would surely never make President! What a couple of D-BAGS!
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Good to see Obama ask harder questions just like Hillary has been getting all a lone.He’s crying today 45 min. He still didn’t really answer the questions. He is and unknown. How can he be elected as president when no one knows anything about him.Resko got money from some muslim over seas and Obams is friends with Resko.Obama got land from Resko and money was donated to his campaigne for senator and president.He says he gave the money back for president campaign.He also had to know that Resko was a slum lord.So Obama got dirty money and seems to think that OK.No! It’s not.He needs to answer Why he took money from him in the first place.People have to be kidding to vote for Obama with what little is known it isn’t good.
Posted by: Shady | April 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
I think that Obama and Clinton should debate every night. They would surely never make President! What a couple of D-BAGS!
Posted by: Sean | April 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Hillary is just like a slinky..doesnt make you smile until you roll them down the stairs.
Posted by: Zianna Ohm | April 17, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
No worries…She will be dropping out pretty soon. Mark my words
Posted by: informed_citizen | April 17, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Was Bill Clinton ever President of this country? When did he become a shameless shill for his wife’s losing campaign? He’s starting to make President Bush look good by comparison, and that’s pretty hard. By the way, Bill, your wife doesn’t whine, she just cries. I look forward to her loss in the primaries so she can “go back to baking cookies or something” or return to her life as a secret government agent dodging sniper fire.
Posted by: Dave | April 17, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Obama, worthless scum!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mark | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Obama, worthless scum!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mark | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
NEWS FLASH! OBAMA HAS BEEN WHINING AND GOING NEGATIVE ALL DAY. Poor baby got his feelings hurt last night because for the first time in a debate he couldn’t jusk kick back and catch a nap and listen to Hillary get beat up. So many of you are complaing on here that Obama got the rough questions. Well it’s about time! Hillary has been trashed in the media since the beginning of this campaign. We need to learn more about Obama and I’m sure we’ve barely scratched the surface of this man’s skeletons. Mr. Untouchable was finally confronted on some issues without a teleprompter and looked very uncomfortable trying to find the answers.
So how many people on this blog think the debate was a setup? LOL!! So does that mean that the previous debates when Obama got a free ride that his campaign set that up? That’s ridiculous.
Obama may end up being the nominee but he will get destroyed in the general election.
Posted by: Trish | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
I see the Obamazombies are out in force, well listen here jackasses, Obama isn’t going to win anything. Come November the Democratic party will be sorry they ever heard of Barak Hussein Obama, when all his dirty laundry and shady dealings are hanging on the clothline for the world to see.
Posted by: Ted | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
NEWS FLASH! OBAMA HAS BEEN WHINING AND GOING NEGATIVE ALL DAY. Poor baby got his feelings hurt last night because for the first time in a debate he couldn’t jusk kick back and catch a nap and listen to Hillary get beat up. So many of you are complaing on here that Obama got the rough questions. Well it’s about time! Hillary has been trashed in the media since the beginning of this campaign. We need to learn more about Obama and I’m sure we’ve barely scratched the surface of this man’s skeletons. Mr. Untouchable was finally confronted on some issues without a teleprompter and looked very uncomfortable trying to find the answers.
So how many people on this blog think the debate was a setup? LOL!! So does that mean that the previous debates when Obama got a free ride that his campaign set that up? That’s ridiculous.
Obama may end up being the nominee but he will get destroyed in the general election.
Posted by: Trish | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Welcome to Mr. Obama’s Neighborhood
Meet Rezko, Farrakhan, Ayers, Wright
Howdy neighbors!
Posted by: ryan brown | April 17, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Vote for me! I guarentee you will
get free health care from the womb to
your tomb and I will bring all
democrats and republicans together
to work with all the nations of
the world to stop war and suffering and
you will all have jobs and free
gasoline because I have a plan to stop greed which I will explain to you after I’m President. And have paid my debt
to the powers that financed my
campaign. I’ve been making this
promise for hundreds of years. Vote for
the bullshit artist of your choice. I’m
going fishing before the river runs dry.
Meet me and bring fish bait and beer.
Posted by: John Murphy | April 17, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
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When people head into that VOTING BOOTH, Rev Wright and all the sideshows including misspeaking etc…is NOT the reason people LOST their JOBS , HOMES, take a hit to their retirement nest eggs via/ stocks.. thanks to the collapse Economy.
Obama 08 where whites , blacks , brown people sending him to clean up washington.
CHANGE= new policies baby; to set this country on course and raise the quality of life heading into 21century.
Watch out Canada and France our citizens will catch up to your life expectancy.
Posted by: dustsettle | April 17, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
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When people head into that VOTING BOOTH, Rev Wright and all the sideshows including misspeaking etc…is NOT the reason people LOST their JOBS , HOMES, take a hit to their retirement nest eggs via/ stocks.. thanks to the collapse Economy.
Obama 08 where whites , blacks , brown people sending him to clean up washington.
CHANGE= new policies baby; to set this country on course and raise the quality of life heading into 21century.
Watch out Canada and France our citizens will catch up to your life expectancy.
Posted by: dustsettle | April 17, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Obamillary can kiss my black Republican Ass!!!
Posted by: Dan Fox | April 17, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Took Obama a whole day to finally start responding to question. But it was the some ole responses to questions not asked last night… Obama is like the doll, you pull the string and he says the same things over and over… Obama, start answering question, stop giving worthless speaches!!!!!!!!!!!!! America deserves more!!!!!!!!!!! Who are you and what do you think?????? We the people, want to know!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mark | April 17, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Took Obama a whole day to finally start responding to question. But it was the some ole responses to questions not asked last night… Obama is like the doll, you pull the string and he says the same things over and over… Obama, start answering question, stop giving worthless speaches!!!!!!!!!!!!! America deserves more!!!!!!!!!!! Who are you and what do you think?????? We the people, want to know!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: mark | April 17, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Obama is not smart enough to be President, he couldn’t stand on the same stage with Hillary without looking like an idiot. Obama don’t won’t no mo debates, he’s had enough butt kickin’s.
Posted by: Kudzu | April 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Barack Obama is the lowest of
all scumbags in washington and that
is an understatement.
Posted by: ruwuwu | April 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Someone mentioned Rollingstone Mag… follow the money.
G.No.Money
Posted by: GNoMoney | April 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Someone mentioned Rollingstone Mag… follow the money. This one is a no brainer.
GObama.
G.No.Money
Posted by: GNoMoney | April 17, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Hillary’s so ugly. Who the hell would want to look at that wrinkly, saggy, horse’s ass for the next 4 years?
Posted by: JJ | April 17, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
ABC did great in the debate. The media should have vetted Mr Obama along time ago and I fear it’s still too late. For a man who beileves in words, he really did not have any answers last night. He keeps talking about being straight, but he talked more than anyone last night and really said nothing. I am a Republican who says, there is still hope in the media.
Posted by: Scott | April 17, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Dear michael45: sorry to have been away and missed your comment from drunken stupor earlier:
please note: my third grade math indicates, using your numbers of 1 billion per week for 5 years (1 billion x 52 wks/yr x 5 yrs = 260 billion) now that’s a long way from “trillions”; now, look I’m trying to be friendly here; the amount actually spent so far, as reported in the mainstream media just the other day, is just over a trillion, but it is NOT plural. I agree that is a chunk of change – my point is that even if you and I put up our considerable alcohol budgets, it is going to be tough for Prez O (or anyone) to come up with that kind of discretionary dollars again over the next four years to do all these wonderful things without breaking more than just Chase Manhattan. I wouldn’t be surprised that if elected, Prez O and Pelosi/Reid&Co try it, so if it happens I advise us both to stock up now, ’cause they will be coming for the the savings. Nothing personal here, buddy.
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama nothing more than muslim planted scumm waiting to take over America… Now thats the truth!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jason | April 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama nothing more than muslim planted scumm waiting to take over America… Now thats the truth!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jason | April 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama nothing more than muslim planted scumm waiting to take over America… Now thats the truth!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jason | April 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama did a great job in the debate. His answers to ABC’s moronic questions were thoughtful, intelligent, and a class act.
Most Americans are sick and tired of the dimwitted, self-centered reptilian philosophies that have permeated politics and the MSM for over four decades. Read it and weep, neanderthals! Get ready to crawl back into your caves – the human species is going to start evolving forward again for a change.
GO OBAMA!
Posted by: Tim A. | April 17, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I like Obama but he is way too inexperienced.
I might vote for him someday– but only after he becomes a veteran of the Senate or a governor or something.
Posted by: Phil Murray | April 17, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
It was a good day today, as Obama’s ego, had to take a backseat to that of the Pope’s. Obama, the second coming of Christ Himself, the soul embodiment of all of America’s past great historical figures, such as MLK and JFK and Lincoln, and anyone else that comes to his mind, spent the day, joking in pain, as a hurt little puppy, because of what Hillary Clinton did to him in the ABC Debate. I hope that the Pope while he’s in the United States of America, can heal Obama’s pain too.
Don’t you feel Obama’s pain too? Where’s Mel Gibson, when we need him, for ‘The Passion of Christ Obama’ Version 2.
Posted by: Randy Ranson | April 17, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
politics hasn’t donned mother theresa gear in some…. 3000 years. how is it supposed to magically change now?
Posted by: hosater | April 17, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
I thought these blogs were edited for abuse and bad language. My goodness this has nothing to do with the election or debate. I don’t see many demeaning Obama in the way some have just really abused Hillary. What went on in her personal life with Bill is none of anyones business. Let’s be decent about all of this. Seems like the Obama fans can’t handle the truth.
Posted by: C Good | April 17, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Why was a former top level Clinton advisor (Stephanopolous) a moderator for a debate in which a Clinton is participating?
I guess if we stop to think, use our intelligence, it begins to make sense.
The reason Hillary was so high, gitty, euphoric couldn”t wait to give her rehearse answers is that she knew exactly what the format & questions were going to be and had plenty of time to prepare.
Everybody knows that Hillary will not agree to a debate unless it is on her terms. I”m sure Hillary would only agree to the debate if ABC agreed to have Stephanopolous & Gibson chair the event. Now George, you were a top level advisor for the Clintons and they granted you most favored status during that time. They pulled a few strings for you and you were able to get your lucrative job with ABC. The debate were just like a trip down memory lane, Advisor George reporting to Hillary as ordered. Pretty slick trick! Just like old times eh?
In spite of that Obama came through like a champ in all the polls that are credible. While Hillary”s cackling, gittiness, euphoria, bashing shows she is just out of touch. She came across as very unprofessional, unpresidential & so transparent.
It’s time get away from these Clinton polictics of division and get Barack to uniting Our Country & doing the work of the America People. Now run along George & take Charley with you. SO SAD!
Posted by: Bash Full | April 17, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Observer,
Here’s a link to the Obama the zombies don’t want us to see. It was just made public by the la times.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html
I just went to this site. I can’t believe Obama gave Hillary the finger during one of his stump speeches today! Obama is the least presidential candidate on the planet. For Hillary to be on the receiving end of Obama’s obvious invective isn’t that surprising. I’m never surprised when he, his surrogates, or supporters retreat to ad hominine attacks (like they’ve done to you).
Posted by: Emily | April 17, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
The media better stop picking on Obama. He is our first black candidate with a real chance at the Presidency. The Democrats owe us a black candidate with all are support the past years.
Posted by: john | April 17, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
This is the only afterglow the hideous Hilldebeast can have. She hasn’t been laid since Chelsea was conceived.
Her Islamic name is Seldom Been Laid.
Posted by: Darrel | April 17, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Hillary may not whine, but she can’t tell the truth either. So why should I vote for some 60 yr old lady who is so bitter and tired and would be more apt to sleep through that 3AM phone call?
Posted by: John Farren | April 17, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Cliton plays the same way as the repubilcans she claims to hate; she’s got her own agenda and at least with Bill we had some good ole boy with his pants down. She should just run with Liberman.
Posted by: Katherine | April 17, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Cliton plays the same way as the repubilcans she claims to hate; she’s got her own agenda and at least with Bill we had some good ole boy with his pants down. She should just run with Liberman.
Posted by: Katherine | April 17, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
The problem is Obama’s supporters could not care what is said or true, they will just follow. Answer this, the President of the United States has a few strong powers at his command, however, no President can change congress and hello, that’s who passes the law and they are the one being bought off for the last 50 years. Every 4 years we hear change, because of how the system is designed the same crap happens again and again. So forget your President, look at who has controlled congress for the past year, hmmmm maybe the democrats? Who despite promising change, had the most pork seen in history, the democrats’. So talk change all you want, but until the American people fix the system, there is not a lot that will change. Look at history, we seem to always repeat it. Cheers
Thanks
Posted by: Scott | April 17, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
These two are clowns in their own circus. Can’t imagine what would happen to our country with either of them leading. Had to turn the debate off, it was indescribably nauseating.
Posted by: TheRealThing | April 17, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
These two are clowns in their own circus. Can’t imagine what would happen to our country with either of them leading. Had to turn the debate off; it was indescribably nauseating.
Posted by: TheRealThing | April 17, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Chas @ 5:32:24 PM writes “Bill Clinton raped me” ———- I guess you enjoyed it. Why else would you crow about it?
Posted by: Victor | April 17, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Perhaps forums like this are why ABC thought it best to attack Obama’s patriotism for 45 minutes based on whether he wore a pin or not, or whether he knew someone or not, or whether he was willing to assert that he loved his country more than a man who served in the military honorably.
Perhaps these forums are why ABC news thought it could have a former Clinton aid ask Obama whether another man loved his country less or more than he did.
It was a strange night, but one that seems to have outraged actual voters (and news viewers). I’ sure pollsters and trolls loved it, though.
Posted by: drew | April 17, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Sorry, Chas. My previous message was intended for Taylor.
Posted by: Victor | April 17, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Bill Clinton “misspoke”. He meant to say that Hillary was not Winning.
Posted by: nysteeb | April 17, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
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I like Obama but he is way too inexperienced.
I might vote for him someday– but only after he becomes a veteran of the Senate or a governor or something.
Posted by: Phil Murray | Apr 17, 2008 10:44:49 PM
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Kennedy age 43
Roosevelt age 42
Obama age 46
Good thing the people voted for the most talented person and didn’t listen to that inexperience crap.
Any new president is inexperience.
that term use is very misleading especially for that position.
Posted by: cpc | April 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
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I like Obama but he is way too inexperienced.
I might vote for him someday– but only after he becomes a veteran of the Senate or a governor or something.
Posted by: Phil Murray | Apr 17, 2008 10:44:49 PM
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Kennedy age 43
Roosevelt age 42
Obama age 46
Good thing the people voted for the most talented person and didn’t listen to that inexperience crap.
Any new president is inexperience.
that term use is very misleading especially for that position.
Posted by: cpc | April 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
No surprise Obama does not want his charachter brought to issue.He has no record to go bye,other than marxist/socialist interpitations of the constiution,his associates and friends are terrorists,racists,or soon to be convicted scam artists.Seems like the kitchen is getting too hot for Obama and this is just a small sample of what will happen in the general election
Posted by: Donnie C | April 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Remember long ago when journalists would sincerely try to hide their opinions and present unbiased reporting? Now they don’t even pretend. ABC used a Clinton Hack to moderate a tabloid gotcha fest filled with questions lifted from GOP spin talking points. This makes cable news seem reputable. Hell, at least with FOX you know everything that you hear will be a lie, so there is no danger of being deceived.
Posted by: Tom Schubert | April 17, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
níggër loving Clintons, want to gain the democratic vote from the níggërs in America. while at the same time the magic token níggër Obama the muslim is trying for the same thing.
Learn the facts about the token níggër at n i g g e r mania dot com.
Posted by: Bruiser | April 17, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
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like Obama but he is way too inexperienced.
I might vote for him someday– but only after he becomes a veteran of the Senate or a governor or something.
Posted by: Phil Murray | Apr 17, 2008 10:44:49 PM
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Kennedy age 43
Roosevelt age 42
Obama age 46
Good thing the people voted for the most talented person and didn’t listen to that inexperience crap.
Any new president is inexperience.
that term use.. is very misleading especially for that position.
Posted by: cpc | April 17, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
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like Obama but he is way too inexperienced.
I might vote for him someday– but only after he becomes a veteran of the Senate or a governor or something.
Posted by: Phil Murray | Apr 17, 2008 10:44:49 PM
***************************************
Kennedy age 43
Roosevelt age 42
Obama age 46
Good thing the people voted for the most talented person and didn’t listen to that inexperience crap.
Any new president is inexperience.
that term use.. is very misleading especially for that position.
Posted by: cpc | April 17, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Just watching Obama at a rally today on tv and I thought he was being very negative. I don’t understand they keep staying Hillary is negative. Then what do you call what he was doing? This is just plain down crazy.
Posted by: lois | April 17, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Obama is more popular than ever according to the polls. He WILL be the next Democratic nominee for president.
John McCain is old, tired, and wasn’t ever very smart in the first place. 50 Iraqis a day are getting blown up to smithereens thanks to the war that he has so enthusiastically and stupidly supported for more than 6 years now. US soldiers continue to die and get mained daily. The latest estimates say that 300,000 US soldiers have suffered head injuries in this idiotic, pointless war!
John McCain is easy to beat. Obama will be the one to beat him. Obama WILL be our next president.
Posted by: Tim A. | April 17, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Bill – you are one sick puppy!
Somebody needs to get both of these freaks some serious help.
Are we seriously considering putting this soap opera back in the White House – Really?
WOW– What does this really say about the citizens of this once great Country
Posted by: Keith | April 17, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Clinton backers love to talk about how they will take their toys and go home if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination.
Seriously, I thought you had to be 18 before you could vote. These people talk like they’re fresh out of kindergarten.
If you can’t when a debate when the moderators are on your side, what debate can you win? I think it’s bad form to crow when the game is given to you.
I used to watch Snufflelupagus on Sunday mornings. After this debacle, I guess I’ll have to find something else with my time. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Great job ABC.
Posted by: Lincoln | April 17, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
BAWH! They asked be tough questions…Obama is a cry baby. And he wants to lead the free world?? He needs 20 more years of pratice first. Cry Baby.
Posted by: John | April 17, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
BAWH! They asked be tough questions…Obama is a cry baby. And he wants to lead the free world?? He needs 20 more years of pratice first. Cry Baby.
Posted by: John | April 17, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Now I don’t want to set anyone off here, but I am puzzled about all this reference to overturning the “will of the people” when the Superdelegates are considered. Just why do the Superdelegates exist? If the argument is that they MUST follow the “will of the peepul” and vote en masse for the winner of the plurality of delegates from the primary process, why it seems to me that they are just a bunch of Party Elders who are being given an all-expense paid vacation to the Fleshpots of Denver. On the other hand, if they are the Wizened and Insightful Eminence of the Party (Harry, Teddy, Nancy), their long years of experience should be listened to and they should be allowed to vote on the basis of that experience. I’ve got no dog in this race (frankly I don’t like the option of voting for either of the two dogs left), but as I see it, either the Superdelegates should get to vote their conscience or their institution should be done away with. Your call, folks.
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
You know – I thought Chelsey looked very elegant and mature last night!
Webster Hubbell must be one proud Poppa today!
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Obama got this far because he is black. Compare that to a white Junior Senator from any state. He/she would have no chance at all.
Posted by: Victor | April 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
You know – I thought Chelsey looked very elegant and mature last night!
Webster Hubbell must be one proud Poppa today!
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Does anyone know if ABC plans to rerun the debate? I was straightening my stereo wires and didn’t see the show and it sounds like I missed something.
Posted by: Dave | April 17, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
dummies..
Posted by: doofus | April 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Sam: Webster Hubbell said he feels exactly the same way about you.
Posted by: Victor | April 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Obama is not ready,not even close. Republicans will destroy him all the while his race card has been trumped.
I really hope he is the nominee because i’m voting for McCAIN.
Posted by: John | April 17, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
It was the best debate so far. George did a fantastic job
Posted by: John Prescot | April 17, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
A very good debate ABC. Tough and very topical questions were asked of both Senators. It’s amazing and disappointing how vile and even pornographic the tone of many anti Clinton posts. If Obama supporters become so riled over some tough questions thrown to their candidate, how will they react if he were elected president and is scrutinized and criticized ad nauseam in the national media. Every single friendship, acquaintance, alliance of the Clintons, real or imagined has been investigated over and over. Politics is not for the faint of heart. If a candidate can’t stand the heat, they should drop out of the race.
Posted by: Jeff in Chicago | April 17, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
The Obama candidacy is over. Barack will never be president now- NOT EVERRR!! I did not see the Obamacans complain when Brian Williams and Tim Russert ganged up on Hillary in debate after MSNBC debate. I guess it is only unfair when it happens to your guy. Hillary absolutely clocked him yesterday. There was only one President-type in the debate last night and it was definitely not Obama. I guess it’s O-Bummer time for the Obamabots.
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
How funny that ABC news would hide behind Bill Clinton’s comments as if they justified or excused their failure to properly moderate yesterday evening’s debate.
Posted by: Ken | April 17, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
We cannot elect a terrorist to the Presidency- that is why Senator Barack Osama will not win in the fall, despite the communists in the Democratic party forcing him down our throats. At a minimum 30% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain if she is not the candidate. The Zogby and Gallup polls are wrong as always, Hillary wins PA by at least 10 points.
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I cannot stand to look at Obama. I have no respect for him. He’s not patriotic. He does not love America. He is a race baiter. His wife has such a bad attitude. I can’t see her as a first lady, at all. The ultra-left wing dems putting these 2 socialists up and one could be the president…they do not love America for doing this. It’s a d-shame the people elected have not put a stop to these socialists trying to take over America. They have just about succeeded. I wonder at times if America has gone too far to get her back with good morals and values. You know the veterans who served this nation have to be weeping to see this. I can’t believe we have 2 socialists running for president!!! In THE UNITED STATES–IN the year 2008! Thanks to all you jack as— who did not vote in the mid term elections! Sell your country out for your way and your selfish pride. Now, we have this and Nancy Peloski and hARRy Reed.
Now, if one of these 2 candidates are elected-say hello to–Higher Taxes–Appeasement to our nation’s enemies–Gun control–goodbye to the Second Amendment–Control of the First Amendment (for their favor)–The Fairness Doctrine–More Govt intrusion into our private lives—Hello same sex sicko marriage! Who cares about Steve and Adam–It’s Adam and Eve! For reproduction of the family unit. Say God is gone and Christians are bad ..Police are bad, the military has to be reduced..more open borders.
Wake up! People died for this country and not for this new revised America!
Posted by: Christie | April 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
What scares me most about the comments on here is that it’s hard to imagine wounds being healed when it comes time in Nov.
Go Hillary, Go Obama, beat McBush!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: IndyEd | April 17, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
President Barack Osama = More terrorism by Obama Ben Laden
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
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Obama got this far because he is black. Compare that to a white Junior Senator from any state. He/she would have no chance at all.
Posted by: Victor | Apr 17, 2008 11:11:19 PM
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And how did Hillary got this far again , let me guess!, she is married to some plumber name sammy clinton.
Without her husband she would be stuck in some hack law office in Arkansas.
Are you aware that they are more qualify women in congress who got there without any former president help.
So kennedy got there at 43 ..whats the reason! .he was white ..sigh<—–
the Iq level is at a all time low here.
Posted by: riley | April 17, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
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Obama got this far because he is black. Compare that to a white Junior Senator from any state. He/she would have no chance at all.
Posted by: Victor | Apr 17, 2008 11:11:19 PM
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And how did Hillary got this far again , let me guess!, she is married to some plumber name sammy clinton.
Without her husband she would be stuck in some hack law office in Arkansas.
Are you aware that they are more qualify women in congress who got there without any former president help.
So kennedy got there at 43 ..whats the reason! .he was white ..sigh<—–
the Iq level is at a all time low here.
Posted by: riley | April 17, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
I am with you Sam! But I think that Hill will win by 15 points in PA!
A landslide!
I don’t believe Zogby and Gallup at all!
We saw their polls at NH, OH, TX, CA, MA
and even RI!
They are bias Obama supporters I wonder if they take those polls at Obama phone bank areas!
LOL
Posted by: republican voice | April 17, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Koji Pham take you anti-Hillary and anti-American comments and go back to whatever refugee camp you sneaked out of with that ugly foreign name. Obama is finished and Hillary or McCain will be the next president. You Obamabots are just angry that thye media is finally being objective in its coverage and not pandering to you left wing nuts.
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Boycott ABC and all their advertisers!!!
Posted by: Ken | April 17, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Boycott ABC and all their advertisers!!!
Posted by: Ken | April 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
sorry, I’m a bit puzzled at the logic here; let’s fill in a few gaps:
crc states:
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Kennedy age 43; Roosevelt age 42;
Obama age 46
Good thing the people voted for the most talented person and didn’t listen to that inexperience crap.
Any new president is inexperience.
that term use.. is very misleading especially for that position
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well, let’s fill things in a bit (warning: some opinions AND facts follow):
Kennedy age 43
had been a US Senator for 8 years prior to election; served with distinction in WWII; supposedly his daddy ran some of the best hootch in Prohibition; to be fair he didn’t do so well early in his Presidency with the Bay of Pigs debacle and Khrushchev got a very poor impression of him at their early summit in Vienna – some say that the Russians were emboldened to put missiles in Cuba due to his weak performance at that summit; however, he did distinguish himself in the Cuban missile crisis and, if he had lived, would likely have succeeded at getting the Civil Rights Bill passed on his own(rather than LBJ getting that credit as a legacy for JFK)
Roosevelt age 42
was elected as McKinley’s Veep, so he didn’t really get elected Prez at age 42 – he succeeded upon McKinley’s death; however, he had been an effective Governor of NY; he also went up San Juan Hill on his horse in the Mexican War, serving his country with distinction
Obama age 46
no military service, not even a hint; first-termer in US Senate; spent several years voting “present” on the tough ones and drawing salary as state Senator from a “safe” Chicago district in IL state legislature
Frankly, as a distinguished Dem once said to Dan Quayle: “you, sir, are no Jack Kennedy” (or Teddy Roosevelt or even Jimmy Carter, for that matter).
Posted by: puzzled | April 17, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Will James Carville Please Quit Posting On This Blog
Please
Posted by: Super Steve | April 17, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Stop hating hillary clinton and Bill Clinton out of jealusy.
IM sorry you cant get laid
Posted by: Matthew Zakutny | April 17, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Some of you people need to get out of the 1960′s and get up and get exercise! Goodnite.
Posted by: Christie | April 17, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
“I always get asked questions first… but I don’t mind”
that’s a whine!
Posted by: chris | April 17, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
“I always get asked questions first… but I don’t mind”
that’s a whine!
Posted by: chris | April 17, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
After Pastor Wright, “bitter” gate, Ayers and Michelle Obama, an Obama-McCain match up will be a debacle for the Democratic party. Obama goes around the country lecturing us to be aware of politics as usual and the guys only MO is running for office. Obama spent is constantly reaching for the next political office. May be in the extremely unlikely scenario he gets to the Presidency, the Obamabots will anoint him Dictator For Life. Seems logical if you look at his pattern of behavior.
Posted by: Sam | April 17, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
John McCain will be the next president.
Posted by: Ron | April 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
ABC was very fair – if the debates had been like this earlier Obama would be far behind. Hillary is by far the best
choice.
Posted by: Annejo | April 17, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Shame, Shame on Senator Obama. For months he has been bragging about how PRESIDENTIAL he is and last night he certainly disproved all of it. His anger showed and he came unglued.
Where is the rationality for supporting this wanna-be politican. He is in this for the power he craves, he can not unite our country. Sorry, we do not believe in your brand of politics.
Posted by: Bitter Granny | April 17, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Hillary will win in PA by 12 to 15 points after this debate!
Posted by: Adam, PA | April 17, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
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Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.
Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.
Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate
His record suggests several priorities and the bills he supports address many of our most pressing problems.
Most of his legislative effort has been in the area of Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills), health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills),
consumer protection/labor (14 bills), the needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills), Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills), Foreign Policy (10 bills) Voting and Elections (9 bills),
Education (7 bills), Hurricane Katrina Relief (6), the Environment (5 bills), Homeland Security (4 bills), and discrimination (4 bills).
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for those clueless HUG THIS UP .
And the bills he didn’t vote on he protest by walking out .i kind of like that.Present or not present he made his feelings very clear.
Obama 08 .. so talented at times he gets annoy and bored at the same ole politics.
Obama 08 we wouldn’t have it any other way.
Posted by: bunker | April 17, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
To all of you, God is in control. Stand still and watch God work. To God be the glory!
Posted by: CSR | April 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Sadly, O reminds me of the guy who always spoke so well in the meetings, but didn’t have a clue what to do when he got to run things. Yeah, I know that’s vague, but, hey, it’s late.
Hill on the other hand was probably best summed up weeks ago over on another blog: “America’s Ex-wife”
Enjoy your political addictions everyone; remember when we all wake up on the morning of Nov 5th, we have to figure out some way to work together for the good of this wonderful country; good night.
Posted by: former CA resident | April 18, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
At least with Teflon OBAMA we wouldn’t have any grown man sticking cigars in the pussies of women in the White House. The DEMS lost the White House, The senate and everything American as a result of The Clintons. Bill Clinton is a disgraced president ………… PERIOD! We in this very generation will make sure the White House is “Clean” like a whistle. Pussie whipping in the Oval office is forbidden ……… PERIOD. It’s a NEW DAY in America.
Posted by: Che-3 | April 18, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Jill, I’ll take Meet the Press with Tim Russert any day over George’s show. Meet the Press has a long and storied tradition and is on a much higher plane as a news program, IMHO.
Posted by: Ken | April 18, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Muslim world needs leaders like Obama and Jimmy Carter!I don’t like the Clintons nor McCain!
Israel had their time for 7 years it is our time now!
Go Obama allah , Hamas and Muslim world are with U
Posted by: Jihad | Apr 17, 2008 11:59:14 PM
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Pleease!! you are some white kid with tons of pimples still in his parents basement.. waiting for the next wrestling show to come on.
let me guess you are allergic to girls because you frighten them with your looks. now run along puberty boy.
Obama08 taken sukas out.
Posted by: 3rdpower | April 18, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
This is long over due, and yet Obama has still not answered the questions he has been dodging for months. Obama’s followers can scream foul all they want, but those questions go straight to his character, which has been revealed over the last several months as unfit for the presidency.
Posted by: Griffin | April 18, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Jihad; you sound like some racist KKK in disguise as a Muslim and parading as a Jihadi in this forum. You can’t foul anyone. No me! Remove that stupid “white pillow sheet” from your face.
Posted by: Che-3 | April 18, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
I cannot imagine Michelle Obama as first lady. She is sooooo ugly.
Posted by: Sam | April 18, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Hey, Bill! What was that you were doing near the beginning of the campaign when you were griping that Obama hadn’t been vetted by the media? Oh, yeah! That’s right. When YOU complain it’s a legitimate complaint; when others complain it’s whining. Grow up, Bill.
Posted by: muttmom | April 18, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Michelle Obama will not be the first lady. Not to worry.
Posted by: Ron | April 18, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I don’t know, after all the bad reviews Obama received from pundits after his debate performance last night, he is probably crying in his pillow right now…
Rise, Hillary, Rise.
Clinton/Edwards ’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 18, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Michelle is soooooo Uggghhhhhly that compared to her Hillary is Angelina Jolie.
Posted by: Sam | April 18, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
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I cannot imagine Michelle Obama as first lady. She is sooooo ugly.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 18, 2008 12:19:51 AM
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We survive with george Bush mother,
And i think you need to go look at all the pics of the first ladies in history , michelle look like a super model compare to many , and it doesn’t hurt she will rank as the SMARTEST.
have no fear.. McCain bimbo drug addict and thief need not apply.
Posted by: truthpolice | April 18, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
PK:
You shouldn’t be surprised by
Bill Clinton’s comments!
The Clintons just cannot tell the truth!
Lying and Fudging are their M.O.!
Posted by: reaganfan | April 18, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
clinton won the debate. obama is complaining. bill is laughing at obama. obama supporters do not like their canidate laughed at.
vote.
Posted by: randall | April 18, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Bad image for the big O.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 18, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
clinton won the debate. obama is complaining. bill is laughing at obama. obama supporters do not like their canidate laughed at.
vote.
Posted by: randall | Apr 18, 2008 12:49:12 AM
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Like any wise person would say a idiotic athlete who is trash talking and celebrating and is down 56-0 with 1 minute left.
~LOOK AT THE DELEGATE SCORE BOARD~
now run along and change the tires to that thing you call a home.
Posted by: seth | April 18, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Cronkite must be amazed at the depth to which a major network news has sunk.
I used to like both these “moderators” but last night’s debate was, as far as I am concerned, their swan song.
That news travesty was a new low. From now on, I’ll get all my news from the internet.
Posted by: maggie van ostrand | April 18, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Is there a word strong enough for how much I detest Obama and his supporters. OMG they are the most disgusting things on this earth.
Posted by: susan | April 18, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
One Question Senator Obama; aside from your cowardly passive aggressive comments directed at Senator Hillary Clinton, you said that you understand that the Republicans are going to attack you if you the nominee this Fall. So, you just passive aggressively called Hillary a Republican. Plus, if you understand all that, then why were you so woefully unprepared to react and defend yourself last evening in Philly? You were incredibly weak, stumbled, stuttered. You seemed so uncomfortable with having to explain yourself, so hesitant to be upfront with the American people – that just shows that you do not have the answers. Vote Hillary America, this guy is an AMATEUR.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | April 18, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
One more thought regarding the moderation. Obama supporters, as a crutch, screech about George Stephanopoulos having worked for the Clintons. They are absolutely right, he did.
However, when pointing such out why do they not include the fact that he also later wrote a book that was unfavorable to the Clintons.
Also, he has never on any broadcast that I know of shown any bias “for” the Clintons, if anything he has frequently shown a bias toward the Clintons.
So, which is he, for or against the Clintons? If you truly know, you know more than I do.
Right now he is satan to you Obama folks because he harshly questioned the image of your enigmatic candidate.
Posted by: Mike in Far-West Texas | April 18, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
Hillary needs to give it up…. stick a fork in her… she is done.
Posted by: kcgentz | April 18, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
DNC look at obama’s behavior. I will change party if you blame hillary for the foolishness obama causes. he is not funny
Posted by: jan-Alabama | April 18, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
People! we are merely voting for who is going to run the Congress! and we know who they are already-Obama’sentourage-. With his inexperience incoherent sentences, (hum,uh the things, the stuff), they will notlet him get near a pen. “sign here, sign there President Obama!So don’t worry about a thing. No one will allow him to rewrite our Constitution. Too young to be a Maverick and too inexperienced to be a Clinton polititian.Thank Goodness our forefathers thought of everyting.
Posted by: ruthmatters | April 18, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
The biggest whiner during this entire nomination process….. of all the candidates on both sides …. has been Bill Clinton!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 18, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Obama is too funny if he thinks the debate was a rollout of the Republicans strategy. The debate was a pea shooter, the Reps will have a bazooka!
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 18, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Obama and Ayers used the Woods Fund to funnel money to the PLO through Khalidi.
Obama is an anti-semite. Or maybe he just likes hanging with terrorists at home and abroad.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 18, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
Why is it ok for anyone to question Sen.Obama on personal issues like his religion and choices he made regarding the Reverand when it is apppearantly NOT ok to ask Sen. Clinton about her reaction, or lack thereof, to Bill Clinton’s affairs? Is she to be protected from these types of questions IF she becomes President? If she is not strong enough to be asked ANY question, then she is not strong enough to be my President!
Posted by: Wendy | April 18, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Supporters of Obama do not see that he will need Hillary’s supporter votes in the General Election to defeat McCain. Most funny comment I came across that an Obama supporter expresses her desire to be raped by Clinton to get people to vote for Obama. You do not have to be angry and mean to show your supports for your candidate.
Posted by: Art | April 18, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Bill Clinton is lying again. You can take anything a Clinton says and flip it over 180 degrees, and you might get the truth. No Whining from Hillary, becomes Hillary is always Whining. See it works! George Stepenopolis is trying to spin this again but we see through him.
Posted by: John | April 18, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Bill was tickled watching the debate! Why shouldn’t he be when when his old servant Georgie and his new recruit Charlie were doing all his biddings.
I thought it was a debate where the two opposing candidates will be given an opportunity to not only highlight each others opposing viewpoints but also expound their policies and actions to resolve the many problems plaguing the country and its people.
Instead it turned out to a kangaroo court where poor Obama is put on the dock and being relentlessly cross-examined…(pardon me, character assasinated) on matters that would have only made Republicans tickled pink!
Indeed, it is little wonder why this “debate” ticked Bill. After all, he, more than anyone else, know very well the nomination is beyond his wife’s reach. So, he is over the moon over the prospect that his next preferred choice, John McCain, is going to be the great beneficiary from this charade labelled as debate.
I wonder why Stephanoupolis didn’t ask Hillary whether her husband’s pardoning of two of Bill Ayers’ comrades made him or her an accomplice to the “terrorist”.
Also, instead of asking Hillary when she would start withdrawing the US troops from Iraq why didn’t Charlie ask her as to why she voted in favour of sending troops to Iraq that had resulted in the loss of the lives of 4,000 brave young Americans and the maiming of many more thousands of US soldiers, not to mention the death of thousands of Iraqis and misery and pain inflicted on hundreds of thousands more fIraqis driven out of their own country iand as refugees into neighbouring sstates.
Bill Clinton was elated that his wife was not whining. Why should she? For a change, the two men (Georgie and Charlie) were not ganging up against her, rather, were joining forces with her!! Also, she didn’t have to face the first question.
No doubt it turned out as a great show the Clintons. All in all, it was cause for glee for the Republicans. But one thing is for sure. The Americans afor re not going to let ABC host another debate during this election. Capult!
Posted by: John Santiago | April 18, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
I guess Bill has been napping for the last 10 months because Sen. Clinton did nothing but whine. Whine that the media is biased, whine that she always gets the first question, whine that there is sexism. Constantly. Obama is right. I could care less about Clinton’s lie about Bosnia or whether Obama served on the board with some ex-hippy crazy. He’s not responsible for what every person he meets in life thinks or does. I care about what these two are going to do about the war, our terrible economy, our reputation, our public schools, our inner cities, our unemployed workers. Of course Obama was disappointed with the debate: it was a waste of time.
Posted by: Christine | April 18, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
No whining from Hillary? You’ve got to be kidding! Her pariah act in the prior two debates and her friends at SNL provided enough wine for all of France. Bill, you think we forget that you launched a missle to distract from Monica, you think we don’t know that the economy benefited from the internet bubble (it was Al who invented the internet, not you*) you think we forget that you gutted the controls that ended up producing the current mortgage crisis… That’s right Bill, Clintons don’t whine… they distract!
Posted by: Steve in Indiana | April 18, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Great debate. Thought the questions were straight and to the point.
My opinion is that Obama evaded every question in the debate. Not a single straight answer, even on a question so simple as why he doesn’t wear a flag pin. He just talks in circles and never gives a direct response. Hillary looked strong, focused and Presidential He just looked awful, he was stumbling, nervous, and taken aback . . . he says that he has “proven he can take a punch” as if Hillary has really been going after him. Wrong. He seems to have no plan. He could not even directly answer about raising/not raising taxes on folks who earn under $200K. Will he raise the payroll (social security) tax or not? Make a decision!
Also, I don’t like the fact that he looks down his nose at some of the questions – like a snob. Like he is above answering questions about who he associates with. It is important to know what a Presidential candidate is all about – this goes to his character!
Is he a leader or a follower? He was brought up by a white Mom and white grandparents. He attended an elite high school in Hawaii and then Ivy League college and graduate school. Where does his allegiance stand? With those who gave him a good life? It looks like he is a follower. Rather than showing disadvantaged people how to make it like he did, he chooses to associate with people who play nothing but the blame game. These people do not take concrete steps to improve the lives of their constituencies but choose to complain, verbally assault and criticize. He should share the formula for success – don’t focus on the negative, on anger and on the past.
Posted by: independent voter | April 18, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
As a realistic (not emotional and visceral) female supporter of Sen. Clinton (UNTIL NOW, I MUST ADD, AND NOT ANYMORE), I must say that the questions directed at Sen. Obama were impertinent and the lack of professionalism displayed by ABC is, without exaggeration, was quite insulting to the public and their intelligence. Most questions were way off-course. Unless media are hell-bent on sabotaging the future of this country, I think it is time for them to inject a liberal amount of professionalism and integrity into their performance.
Posted by: disenfranchised woman | April 18, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
I hate to tell Obama, there was no knife-twisting. Hillary used sharp political reasoning in her comments about his comments, his stance on issues and his ability to be the next President. He makes it sound like she was acting something other than professional in her debate tactics. Well, she handled herself well and he didn’t. Go be a baby back in the Senate where you belong, or how about the House of Reps in Illinois. Obama, take responsibility for the fact you did poorly during this last debate and quit blaming everyone else.
Posted by: Kris | April 18, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
It was great to see pointed questions and sharp follow ups that did not let the candidates off point. Way to go ABC. I’ve not been a fan of your political news coverage but I’ll continue to watch.
Posted by: margaret ferguson | April 18, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
How much was George paid to deliver the one, two, three punch to Obama from the Clinton campaign? No wonder Hillary didn’t need to whine, plus she all that back in February and March.
Posted by: wholesum | April 18, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
THANK YOU ABC FOR ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT THE REST OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS BEEN AFRAID TO ASK. OBAMA IS A CRYBABY. HE FUMBLED AND BECAME ANNOYED AND FLUSTERED. HE HAD A BAD PERFORMANCE AND ALL HE COULD DO WAS BLAME THE SAME MEDIA THAT HAS BEEN GIVING HIM A PASS TIME AND AGAIN. OBAMA IS A BIG WHINING AND COMPLAINING CRYBABY. NOW EVERYONE CAN SEE THE TRUE SIDE OF OBAMA INSTEAD OF THE SLICK, POLISHED IMAGE HE TRIES TO PORTRAY. NOBAMA 2008 HYPOCRACY CAMPAIGN.
Posted by: Melissa | April 18, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Maybe if Obama shed a tear or two it might help?
And I agree with the one who said he’s not sure why Obama thinks that “this is a preview of Republican attacks” is a good think to say, since he got destroyed. Kind of funny that the Democrats seem intent on nominating another weak candidate – almost proud to put up a loser.
Let’s see… supporting Obama means tossing the only two-term Democrat president in my lifetime under the bus, with Jimmy Carter too, and even Obama’s own grandmother. But Obama supporters can tolerate a black race-baiting “preacher” who is retiring high-on-the-hog in an exclusive mostly-white community, and Farrakhan, and domestic terrorists who lament not bombing enough. Those are some mighty thick blinders you’re putting on!
While lefties whine about “questions that don’t matter”, independents are taking note that Obama was unprepared, weak, and definitely not ready for this surprise ’3:00am call’. Given Obama’s consistent fumbling, mumbling, and doublespeak under pressure, let’s hope he’s never put in a position to make big decisions quickly under pressure. Obama is JFK’s speaking ability and foreign policy experience, Carter’s foreign policy blindness, and Bill Clinton’s moral depth and consistency put into a blender. Not pretty.
Posted by: JonDo369 | April 18, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Hey who cares the dirty questions. Obama WON the debate!!! GO OBAMA!!!!
Posted by: leighg1 | April 18, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Bill has no shame, Presidency is not a birth right, its obvious that Obama is the nominee not after Ed Rendell planed with ABC to ridicule Obama. Just watch Ed Rendell will soon shift side. Clinton is a democrat with a Republican head. OBAMA, YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: KC, NY | April 18, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
My, my how very short our memory is…
Are we talking about the same, “Why do I always have to get the first question Clinton?”
OR
“No, I did not sleep with that woman, Clinton?”
I forget, who were we talking about again…?
Posted by: nerakami | April 18, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
cpc:
Get Your Facts Straight!
Roosevelt was Not 42!
JFK was the Youngest President ever
elected! Obama is 48!
Posted by: reaganfan | April 18, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Is Bill joking or what? All she and Bill have been doing have been whining about treatment from the ‘right wing conspiracy against them’, any critisicm from any of the other candidates. Bill and Hillary are matched perfectly. This time Hillary want HillBill to be in the White House – that is why she never divorced that man. Unbelievable that Bill can state what he did with a straight face.
Posted by: Diane Ghil | April 18, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
No whining from HilLIARy???? That’s all she’s been doing! Ever hear of Florida and Michigan?
And what about her being a baby in the last debate about “why do I always get the first question?”
Posted by: Rhoda | April 18, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Re: Bill Clinton’s latest attempt to smear Senator Obama with an alleged ethnic slur — Somebody, please — get the hook!! We all know why Hillary didn’t “whine” when an Obama campaign memo outlining all of the Clinton financial and political ties to India referred to her as “the Senator from Punjab.”
It’s because the memo was quoting both Senator Clinton and her supporters at her March 2006 fundraiser, hosted by Dr. Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, MD home, which raised nearly $50,000 for her Senate re-election campaign. Senator Clinton began by joking that “I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,” after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.
Nearly a year earlier, when Senator Clinton addressed the Sikh Council on Religion and Education at its May 17, 2005 dinner held at the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill, she said: “I am delighted to be the Senator from Punjab as well as from New York,” for which she received a standing ovation and thunderous applause.
Posted by: Jane | April 18, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Tim the polls mean crap. Get together millions of peoples opinions then I’ll listen but getting a few thousand peoples opinion on something and saying thats how it is over the whole US is just plain stupid. The fact of the matter is hardly anyone watches tv except maybe 1 or two shows weekly. We can form our opinion on the candidates by reading about them and not listening to the media. That being said, Obama showed in this last debate & by saying I don’t wanna debate anymore…he can’t handle the heat. So what they ask him personal questions? The other candidates have been asked worse. And guess what we wanna hear his lying self answer those Rev. Wright & his belittling small town people. We wanna see how he squirms and tries to spin it around..He’s a dirty politician like the rest of them, plain and simple.
Posted by: Amy | April 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Hillary did not whine. Hiallry cried.
Posted by: Angela | April 18, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
OMG! I am so sick of the Clintons. I wish they would go to Columbia (since they have dealings there) and never come back. Maybe they could go to one of the countries that NAFTA made prosperous. Their poor daughter will be just like them. I just do not have any respect for the Clintons and their machine politics. What liars! What connivers! What impostors! What creeps! Everyone is correct when they say they will do anything to win. They would sell their souls (if they have souls) to the devil. I just cannot vote for her just because she is the first female to run for the Presidency. She is NOT in the same league as Eleanor Roosevelt or Margaret Thatcher. These women had integrity. Hillary has none of the qualities these ladies had.There is no comparison. Obama ’08
Posted by: CS3539 | April 18, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
WOW!!! That’s amazing some american citizens are still foolish they failed to see light with great future ahead, but instead of talking about issues that matters most gas prices,economy,dollar values, standard of living,war,mortgage crisis,education system and media toying with fellow citizens lives plus they failed to address things that touch our souls most. Anyways, Bill and Hillary Clinton are very good in what they do best selfish interest believes white house is their father’s property ready to damage fellow human to achieve their aims and objectives which is a shame we “American” need follow leader that’s talking about what matters instead of spending 45minutes attacking fellow democrat on stupid stuff.
Posted by: Abdul Olufowobi | April 18, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Bill Clinton President for 8 yrs
Worth 108 Million
Hillary Clinton Running for President 2008
Campaign cost 140 Million
Barack Obama beating her pantsuit off.
Priceless!
Obama has been vetted. Beating an ex president and his presumptive nominee wife in an upset.
Come join the winners Clinton fans and get ready to trounce McPain.
Posted by: Greg | April 18, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Hillary did a really good job in a very difficult situation. Obama was a total failure without a prepared speech. Pretty sad for all the young people who believed in his canned speeches. He is so obviously a “manufactured” candidate. The really lefties like Kerry and Kennedy have propped Obama up with their seal of approval. Obama has a campaign manager who is really slick and is the one running the show. He is the one that should be running instead of Obama. And as Charlie said, the Obama campaign has been “cascading” them with emails about “Bosnia.” Obama just plays the holier than thou candidate while his campaign is shoveling manure all over Hillary. That’s “typical” Chicago politics. Well, okay, so we do want change in Washington, but we don’t want it changed to CHICAGO politics! That would be a change for the worse. Don’t buy the crap that Hillary is a bitch, that’s code for a strong woman doing the same old stuff that men do all the time. People just think she should step aside because a man would be more appropriate. Well, not this man! People who know Hillary on a social basis say she is really nice and even Republican senators who work with her on bills say she is very pleasant. Way to go ABC for holding Obama’s feet to the fire.
Posted by: Judy | April 19, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Bill Clinton is a delisional liar.
Hillary should drop out now.
Posted by: READ THIS POST... | April 19, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
What!Hillary has been whining since the primary season started;about the caucuses,about the blue states should only matter and not red states,about not being treated fairly by the media,about counting bogus primaries of FL and MI.Since the majority of her campaign has been base on the type of slime the debate offered she was in her element,so naturally she would not complain.
Obama 08!
Yes We Can!
Posted by: merle7 | April 19, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
“Waaaaaaaaah, they’re playing gotcha politics, waaaaaaaaaaah” Not only is barack unqualified, unpatriotic, so far left of the majority in this country and its ideals, and a studdering buffoon out of view of a telepromter, but he’s alos a little whining b*tch. If he gets in office (perich the thought, and this country as we know it), will he cry and throw tantrums at Iran and Al qaeda when they aren’t receptive to his charm and smile? Actually, they probably will as they will be his allies.
Posted by: Hawk | April 19, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
I thought Bill Clinton was an honorable man after the tsunami stuff. I think he’s a tool now…and his wife too.
Posted by: brian | April 19, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Message to former Clinton White House staffer, Stephanopolus.
Shucky darn. Don’t much look to me like the lil lady needs your protection. She’s a pretty good lil gunslinger all on her own.
I don’t quite see the point, Georgie in your questionin’. Unless you’re buckin’ for another gig in the Big House corral.
I kinda like to make up my own mind. Didn’t you think I would or could, pardner?
Maybe, son, you just don’t know any better, Pa Bill and Ma Hillary the only political parents you know. If so, I’m truly sorry about that. Must be awful to have to go on expectin’ everyone will be like them.
Posted by: Montana Cowgirl | April 19, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Come on already! Have we forgotten her CRYING on TV because she was being picked on. Then I seem to recall her whining that she always got asked the first question on the debates. ABC news is so full of it. If you read all these articles it’s all pro-Clinton. All you Clintonites out there ought to figure out that ABC is not for the Clintons…they are for McCain and if he gets in office this country is in certain peril.
Posted by: Chris | April 19, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
All these insinuations that Obama is a whiner is making me bitter. I am so sick of the status quo Clinton-style politics of tear down your opponent; craving the Obama politics of unifying and building our nation up, again. We are the change we’ve been looking for.
Posted by: w_roos | April 20, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Whining from Obama? The public says he won the debate, no? Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are the whiners.
Posted by: w_roos | April 20, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
Al may still be the winner!
Posted by: Marg | April 20, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Senator Clinton won the debate.She stood strange with out missing a beat on the questions.
Obama. un duh well you know bits and pices.Questions were ask.So,I saw debates who really tore each other up.This was nothing!
And Why is I always get hte first question.What’s so bad about that?You think by her going first all the time that the copy Machine will say the same thing but useing different words as um duh you knw..
Posted by: Jeff d | April 20, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Now Bill….I used to like you but you have really gone off the deep end lately. You know Hillary has her PhD in whining and her M.B.A. in lying. And so do you. When Hillary felt like she was being ganged up on by the moderators during a few earlier debates, all she did was whine and cry. It got so bad I wanted to ask her what kind of cheese she liked. Bill, stop with all the hypocrisy it takes away from your “playboy” image.
Posted by: spkgmymind | April 21, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm