Bill Clinton on Obama’s ‘Bitter’ Comment
ABC News’ Sarah Amos reports: When former President Bill Clinton took the stage in Bloomsburg, Pa., early this afternoon he wasted no time before mentioning Sen. Barack Obama’s now infamous remarks about rural America.
"Folks, I was shaking hands and taking a few pictures backstage. This fellow looked at me and he said, ‘I just want you to know, the people you’re about to see are not bitter. They’re proud,’" Clinton told an applauding audience.
"They just want this country to go in a different direction. They want to restore the middle class, reclaim the future for our kids, reform the government and take it away from the special interests, restore America’s standing in the world, bring our troops home for Iraq, and take care of our veterans and our men and women in uniform. That’s what Hillary offers," Clinton said.
It was the former president’s first mention of the remark today, having earlier stayed away from the topic during an event at Bucknell University in Lewisburg, Pa.
Clinton again shared the story with the crowd at his last event of the day, in the small town of Jim Thorpe, Pa.
"Folks, once in a great while something happens in a campaign which reveals what the choice is. And I have to tell you, right before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said, ‘Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people of Pennsylvania. We’re not bitter about anything. We’re proud. But we do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our children," said Clinton, who went on to tell the young people in the crowd they did not need the be discouraged or in despair.
Clinton’s message was clear and concise, but it was not the only Obama comment Clinton had on his mind today. Immediatley after sharing the backstage exchange with the Bloomsburg audience, Clinton moved on to another remark Obama has made — one that has continually irked the former president since the Nevada primary.
"There’s been a lot of hoopla about who said what and who shot John in the last couple of days. But one of the things that I thought was kind of overlooked in all this is that one more time, the campaigns opposite Hillary said, ‘Well, there really wasn’t any difference in the Clinton years and the Bush years. Rural Pennsylvania really didn’t do very well.’ Do you agree with that?" Clinton asked.
In response he received a loud "NO" from the audience.
Clinton chuckled a bit at the reaction, adding "I just thought I’d get a few witnesses here. You know I’m a, I’m a Baptist. On Sunday we look for witnesses."

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Clintonistas would like to let people think that Bill and Hill’s Tax returns issues are away, Hill the Bosnian Genral’s Bosnian sniper stroy is away, that Penn and the Colombiangate 800 000 is gone, wake-up. Twisting Obama’s words will not make it. Telling people that they are happy while they are suffering is not real, paternilizing them won’t make. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
You’re right, Bill. Hillary will restore our middle class! She’ll also help the Obama zombies not to be so bitter about it.
Posted by: Emily | April 13, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I think the less Bill talks the better.
Posted by: Maritza | April 13, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I think the less Bill talks the better.
Posted by: Maritza | April 13, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I hate Hillary’s attacks.
You can’t tell the citizens of a country in the midst of a recession not to be “bitter”
God Bless Obama. God Bless America.
Bitter PA and Blue Collar
Posted by: pa blue collar | April 13, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Bill Clinton the bastion of truth :)
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
We didn’t have a war but we did have hard times and then we got Bill and say what you will but Bil Clinton was a good president and time we have a chance for a landslide the left of the left gets some one to run and then here we are IMO
Go Hillary
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
I find it interesting that Obama is supposed to be a Democrat devoted to his party and what it represents, yet he denigrates the Clinton years whenever he gets a chance. Could that be that he is just like every other politician afterall, and really just wants to win? Afterall, he did say it would be really cool to sit in the Oval Office on Day One.
Posted by: dwc | April 13, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Well Karl Rove is so proud of the Clinton campaign for learning from him how to destroy a political rival.
Problem is, the only kind of candidate who wants to do this is someone we wind up miserable with, embarassed by, sick of, and very, very injured by.
Seems very simple. If this is what they’ll do to get your vote, this is how they’ll govern.
Or, as Dr. Phil puts it, if they’ll do it to you, they’ll do it with you. Or was that about something else?
Posted by: Gaias Child | April 13, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Emily, you have to redo your history lesson, Bill has signed NAFTA and that is what Hill has said, because she was opposed to it as to the Rwanda genocide but behind the close doors. Hill the Bosnian General will not get away from this. Bill’s words have surfaced saying exactely in 1991 when running against GHB what Obama has explained today. But instead of fixing the issues confronted by the middle calss, Bill and Hill have shipped jobs overseas and are again doing the same thing in Colombia with the support of Penn. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
NONE of Bill Clinton’s comments from the 90s condescend in the way Senator Obamas comments do. Pontificating to the overly liberal San Francisco elite — he attacks small town people for their love of God and embracing of guns and hunting. Listen carefully to he and his wife when they give speeches — particularly when they think the press isnt listening or watching. This is only the tip of the Obama Iceberg — theres a lot more of it underwater and he will sink the election and the country. HILLARY O8
Posted by: Richard | April 13, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
BKMC
Yes — it’s a shame all those plumbers and doctors and such have been shipped overseas. A real shame!
Posted by: S | April 13, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
@ BKMC
Tell Texans NAFTA should never been passed!
Posted by: Bob | April 13, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Obama supporters are stunned that people can struggle with grace. They don’t think it is possible for people who are struggling to have a noble nature too. They don’t believe that such people can be struggling yet be hopeful. Because Obama invented Hope. It is not possible for struggling people to have had Hope in their lives before him.
Posted by: Umbria | April 13, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Telling the truth is worng in the US, people dont want to hear the truth, they feel they are being talked down to.
Any wonder honest people cant say it like it is, because Americans love to be in denial.
Dollar at an alltime low, economy in recession, no jobs, no healthcare, gas $4 a gallon, schools failing grades….
but please dont speak the truth, because…. We’re Americans.
Posted by: David | April 13, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I’m tired of Bill and his comments. We really don’t need a Bush, than a Clinton, a than another Bush, than another Clinton again! Yikes! We need something new. Go Barack Obama!
Posted by: Robin | April 13, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Obama supporters on….
Reverend Wright….”We agree with the Reverend”
San Francisco comments…. “We/The Middle Class are/is bitter”
You all agree and nod!
Posted by: Jayson | April 13, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
First let us take a deep drag while we listen to Bill Clinton’s excuse for Hillary’s Bosnia lie. “It was midnight and she is 60″ doesn’t sound like anybody wants her on the phone at 3 a.m., does it? Bill and Hill take your meds and and be quiet, it was 9 a.m. after a day of rest when she concocted the Rambo story.
Posted by: Robert E. Lee | April 13, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
If Obama’s non-differentiation between “the Clinton years and the Bush years” is just another gratuitous campaign soundbite, it’s asinine and petty, but who cares. If he believes it, the Deaniesque messianism is pretty troublesome.
Actually, his most odious storyline is “I know her supporters will vote for me but I don’t know if mine will support her. This is the attitude that put W in position to be appointed a second time.
Back then, it was bitterness about perceived marginalization by the DNC and the “progressive press”. With the disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida voters by HoDean and the vile, relentless, mostly baseless and smug attacks on Clinton from the likes of Keith Olbermann and David Sirota, seems like the shoe’s on the other foot.
Posted by: prospero | April 13, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Yes, Texans don’t think NAFTA should have been passed.
Posted by: Branden | April 13, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Haha… Obama is such a newcomer…he said derogatory stuff about a group of potential voters. Let that be a lesson to youse. NEVER say derogatory stuff about potential voters (even when you know it’s true). People don’t like it.
Also: don’t tell obvious lies, and please do your homework before talking about people… all three major candidates are quite gifted, but they all talk way too much and this leads to plenty of insertion of feet into mouths.
Posted by: Yunkie | April 13, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Matt…”core base of fruit loops”?
Love it!
Posted by: sue | April 13, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
I agree with the person who said the ones who are bitter are the people at Obama’s church. They go around blaming whites for the drug use of blacks, the imprisonment of blacks, the lack of education and job opportunities for blacks. The black community needs to take responsibility for its own actions. Obama needs to take responsibility for attending a black-centric church for 20 years. If a white politician attended a white-centric church, his or her career would be over–and rightfully so. It is not ok for blacks to be racist any more than it is ok for whites to be racist. Racists like Obama should have no place in public office.
Posted by: Robin VZB | April 13, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
In the world of Obama elites, if one seeks Guns and Gods only if one is struggling. Faith and religion are not cultural values, rather, an infection, a disease caused by life’s struggles.
Posted by: UM | April 13, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Carolyn Grace
Look around. Obama is splitting the country apart. And doing it intentionally!
Posted by: S | April 13, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
@ Branden
That is why neither candidate was attacking NAFTA in Texas.
Texas cities and other parts of the country have benefited from NAFTA.
Posted by: Jayson | April 13, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Obama can say anything and his fanatics agree.
Posted by: Don | April 13, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Throughout many rural areas in the country these views are prevalent; for many these views will not change anytime soon. Equally, folks in these regions are not as out of touch or as ill informed as some may suggest.
Politically, I suspect many in these regions recognize their dilemma, and are not fazed by Clinton or McCain’s attempt to gains points. Given Obama’s reception in the rural West, I do not see any reason to believe his campaign will be harmed.
The overwhelming fact is rural America is in need of a great deal of attention. Albeit not much, Obama is the only candidate who seriously addressed issues faced by rural and small town America.
In regions once called border or Mason-Dixie states select issues( broadly, the values issues) are detrimental but these shall remain as well; their impact on the overall should be minimum, and will not change anything for Clinton.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Only in America can you profit from your husband making millions of dollars supporting something his wife says she disagrees with. All reported in a joint income tax return. Hillary gets the votes and the money!
Posted by: Tom | April 13, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Emily, I don’t find much “original thought” in your post – just rudeness and things you would probably not say to a person if they were standing in front of you, but you will hide behind a faceles, nameless BLOG. Your not doing Hillary any favors.
Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Obama is a fraud, and his wife needs therapy, she has an inferiority complex. They both are racists. What more do we need to know? We don’t have time to find out right now. NOBAMA 08
Posted by: Emily is stupid | April 13, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Did Bill say special interest groups whe he made 111 million, 15 milion we know for sure was a crooked deal. What does Bill mean by “going a different directio”, and his middle class comment he doesn’t care about the poor? Thatas a lot coming from someone who was almost impeached. The main amercia is blind to even considerate someone as low as hillary, her motto its me or I’ll try an dmake us lose, that want even work Bye B
Posted by: mike dee | April 13, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
@ Emily is stupid
What’s really amusing is that you just keep insulting my Airedale Terrier. She’s Emily. What’s even funnier is that she is exponentially smarter than you are. She’s also a Hillary supporter.
Posted by: Emily | April 13, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
tom — i profit from things i dont agree with all the time. i work, and i certainly do not endorse everything my company does. oh well, life goes on. notice how michelle obama resigned from treehouse foods once obama’s campaign started the anti-walmart thing. i guess she suddenly “agreed” with him over walmart.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I’m not sure WHO is running for president Bill or Hillary….
Now, I’m hearing that Sen. Clinton is positioning herself to run for Governor of NY. What is going on with this campaign?
I’m confused. What is the strategy here – trash the democratic front runner while losing the primary, then run for Governor of NY. It just seems a bit irresponsible and self-serving and not showing a real concern for the party.
Posted by: ed | April 13, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I hope Obama doesn’t fart anytime in public cause I can see what that stinky HIibill would say, these two have become comics there is no way this Btch will win drinking in a bar and Chelese is being PIMPED by her parents going to lunch and hugging young supers delegates for a vote what is that,
Posted by: mike dee | April 13, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I’m bitter that Hillary is a sellout when it comes to womens rights!
Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.
FULL ARTICLE
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/718285.aspx
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
New Yorker did you forget Bush stole the election the clinton years were good aood for most.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Obama feeds false hope to people, Clinton feeds fear..
BOTH SUCK
Posted by: Hmm... | April 13, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
TJ,
I’m sure the savior Obama can take your squirrel haul, and turn it into enough squirrel meat to feed a mighty band of a thousand there is western Pennsylvania.
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Obama will say and do anything to make sure he doesn’t win the election!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
oops mom is calling me for dinner. I’ve been sitting on my bed staring at my Obama poster on the wall.
Posted by: mike dee | April 13, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Man we are really going to still whine about 2000? if youre still trying to argue about 2000, youre not doing a damn thing to help in 2008. it’s over, it was almost 8 years ago, get over it and stop whining, i loathe george bush but hell…
Posted by: Garrett | April 13, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
McCain-Clinton ’08! The Republican ticket to remember.
Posted by: Sane in San Jose | April 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Garett,
New Yorker is the only person to make a thoughtful comment? You must be one of those small-minded bitter people that Obama was referring to. Good thing you have New Yorker to think for you, sitting over in a corner, clutching a gun, reading your Bible, and trembling, waiting for Obama to save us.
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Thank Obama for Obama.
Obama bless us all everyone.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
China, Bill. Remember the most-favored nation status you gave them? What concessions did you get Bill? Who moved my future, Bill? Where’s my cheese, dude?
Posted by: rmjj999 | April 13, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
TJ,
Can you be more specific about the action that Obama provides? Are you talking about the 20 years of silent protest that he engaged in against the Reverend Wright?
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Obama, the strength to maintain pure silent protest for 20 straight years!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
@ TJ
that MYTH has been DEBUNKED.
Posted by: SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF UNITERS! | April 13, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
BKMC,
When can we expect the mighty speech which Obama will present to talk his way out of this one?
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A mighty speech is a’comin’ like a hurricane.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
don’t worry, Olberman and Matthews are going to wear matching pink dresses for Obama’s next speech!
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
OregonEngineer,
Your analysis is probably not far off. I suspect the MoveOn.org crowd was largely behind the Nader fiasco. I’m still going for Hillary who is willing to stand up for working class America over Obama, who is clearly an elitist.
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Obama, the man from Harvard who bowls 37.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Obama never said the Clinton years were no better than the Bush years. He said there are people out there who got left out, who slipped through the cracks. A lot of them are in small towns in the Great Lakes region.
Nothing but the truth.
Posted by: stan | April 13, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
I think guns, religion and presidential candidates who denigrate their supporters are all signs of American stupidity.
Posted by: George | April 13, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Claire,
I’m from a small town and I’m bitter, and I’m waiting to be saved by Obama.
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Obama, the savior of the Obama zombie nation!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
tom — i profit from things i dont agree with all the time. i work, and i certainly do not endorse everything my company does. oh well, life goes on. notice how michelle obama resigned from treehouse foods once obama’s campaign started the anti-walmart thing. i guess she suddenly “agreed” with him over walmart.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Please note that Obama was describing the people that do not vote for him. I guess that’s the change he will bring – denigrate those that do not support you. That’s indeed a change, albeit towards a third-world system. When I view this, and his reponse to Wright, I have to wonder if he really understands American values. Totally shameless and dangerous if you ask me.
Posted by: LT | April 13, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
WCM- Thanks for clearing that up. I would suggest medication, but that would cost you a lot since the Clintons failed miserably getting any sort of health care reform passed. You’ll just have to stick with “bitter”, but I recommend staying away from guns in your state of mind….
Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Emily, who told you that Bill signed the first or second version of NAFTA, you may have missed it. Hill said that Bill has signed NAFTA and that behind the doors she was against it, but publicaly she was vehemently supporting it organizing business women’s meetings to support it. Because of that NAFTA, jobs were shipped out of Ohio, TX, NC, SD, Pen, etc and today the Colombian SAFTA is waiting and Bill has already 800 000 in his pocket for spporting it. Hill the Bosnian General said again publicly she does not support it but behind the doors she is with Penn and Bill benefiting already from Urube’s money. We do not know if Hill’s IQ is above 80? Because Judgement is not her strength. That is a serious concern superdelegates should take into consideration when making their choice. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Aston,
I’ve been waiting for the same. I keep hearing claims like he’s a man of action, but I don’t hear any logic to back it. Maybe in 8 years.
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Obama 2016
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Obama promised me a couple of t-shirts for being a good regional cult member, what do you think?
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
I’m bitter that Hillary continues to mis-lead americans from the truth!
working-class Voters take note!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/noteworthy-political-scie_n_96436.html
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
WCM- You REALLY are sensitive. Emily was very rude to several people and there is no place for that. period. By the way, you do not know who I am for and your efforts to pigeon hole me are pointless.
Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Claire,
Good thing we have the elitists to tell us what our values should be. Also, your cleverly drafted insidious attacks against me at a personal level rival no one that I’ve encountered in the blogs heretofore, except perhaps the neanderthal that goes by the handle Kevin, and occasionally deteriorates to grunts. Hey, but in the Obama zombie nation grunts count as votes.
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Obama knows what we want!
We don’t!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
I quit too, I’m getting tired of being promised my raise by the Obama campaign. I’ve been a paid blogger here now for two months.
Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
“Politics as usual”: Make a big stink over bad wording and misrepresent an intelligent underlying position.
This tact will not improve the lives of ANY American; and certainly not improve the lives and thinking level of those whose educational level is sophisticated enough to appreciate the salient point Obama made.
Economic dislocation DOES give rise to anxiety, frustration, bitterness and polarization of BOTH family members and the nation.
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Claire,
Not trying to pigeonhole you, just describing the pattern drawn from your repetitive behavior. By the way, pigeon meat sounds enticing to us poor country folk that are used to eating squirrel meat. But then again, perhaps Obama with his superior negotiating skills can get us all to disarm.
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Obama, we’re waiting for the mighty speech!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Have the Clintons or their spokespersons looked up the definition of “bitter”. Some of them are “marked by strong resentment or cynicism” and “resentful”, “hostile”. Maybe Obama is correct, after all? Surely lawyers should be used to dealing with language. Mr. Hillary, after all, is famous for trying to define “is”, isn’t he?
Posted by: Barrie Shabel | April 13, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
New Yorker,
So Obama would be good as the Social-Worker-in-Chief based on your analysis!
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Obama, just-in-time sociologist!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
you’re right!
Emily IS stupid!
I’ve always wondered where this (mis) information about the intelligence of voters emanates>
I know I didn’t leave My education credentials in the voting cubie.
Who has substantiated or quantified the errata of this data?
Who said you have to have a degree to prove you’re smart!
In any case, you can see by the posts of the majority of B O fanatics…..
that it obviously is an elitist misconception because they’re
Dumb Dumb Dumb!
GAUDEAMUS IGITUR
and GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!
Posted by: questioner | April 13, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Claire,
Good grief. Obama campaign does not pay campaign workers. Haven’t you heard how he’s dissed all the folks in small towns in Pennsylvania for not spreading the wealth. Hey, I’ve been asking how much flowed to Reverend Wright for awhile but I still haven’t gotten that answer. Maybe when he finally gets vetted…..
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Obama, waiting for the press to vet!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
It’s pathetic to see the Clintons stoop to this level in their desperation.
Posted by: Ruth | April 13, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Hey guys, what are we talking about? If we want a woman as a president, there are a lot of female politicians who are really deserving to get elected because of their integrity and other personal traits, actual results and successful true experience, say, Condi. Hillary’s only advantages over them are the huge notoriety and understandable compassion due to Monica-Bill scandal. That’s it. Her tales of experience remind a wife of a cruise ship’s captain staying 8 years in her plush cabin on the cruises and pretending she can handle the ship either. Maybe, she is sure she can, but how about the passengers: are we ready to risk? If she could not manage her own campaign, how in the world can she manage the whole country? Think again.
On the other hand, Obama is where he is now just because he is an outstanding intelligent person and a most promising leader who won support of millions of people, let alone many great politicians including even his rivals, just because of who is he. He had no father – capitalist to sponsor for young years, no spouse – AG, the governor, the president to sponsor after that. So he really knows the life, both domestic and foreign, coming from a single-working-mom family, spending years studying abroad, going through a Los Angeles community college, transferring to a top university and being a top student there (just paid out his student loans), then declining a comfortable law job offers to work with the poor instead.
It is not a coincidence the youth support him, and the eldest support Hillary: he is to the future, and she is from the past.
His wife said the right thing like: it is not about if he is ready, it is about if we are ready for him.
Even if he told the truth on bitter folks over there, it is a good way to recognize a problem and face up to it instead of making a happy face for the folks. Sure, having $100 millions you can be really optimistic.
Posted by: Alex | April 13, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
If Wright has maids in his new 1.6 million dollar house, do those maids call him ‘master’?
Posted by: J | April 13, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Surprise surprise. Obama was right about virtually everything he said, but alas, the ambiguously racist geriatric wing of the Democratic Party that can’t see past their nose on any issue that isn’t where the next Medicare check is coming from will chase McClinton’s straw man attacks and get duped into voting against their economic interests… again.
Look, I live in Ohio. Every year the politicians make promises, but since we were left behind at the train station economically long ago, we fall for wedge issues instead. Soon enough, Ohio will be left behind at the station politically too, if we keep falling for this crap.
Imagine, we got fooled by Hillary, whose husband is the architect of NAFTA, telling us she is the one who truly opposes it. And they accept consulting fees, their top advisors are knee deep in financial ties in Colombia’s free trade lobby.
Everyone… if you keep voting how you always voted, you will keep getting what you’d always got. Also, my family was on foodstamps and lived in a hotel through much of the 90′s, so don’t tell me they were great either, because they weren’t.
Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton is not change. Obama ’08.
(I’m going to go drink my Kool-Aid now, since apparently all Obama supporters are mindless zombies… if by mindless zombies you mean college-educated financially responsible voters and open-minded youths who don’t carry the funky baggage of discrimination, Vietnam, the Cold War, and labor supremacy).
Posted by: Paul | April 13, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Hillary is planning to CRY (LITERALLY) again on Apr 20th just like she won the second state.
Other option she will take is do something to hold on to all the Grannies.
I love my Grannie but no way I would let her decide the FATE OF WORLD not just USA. But for my home though, she is the Queen.
Most of these Clintonites (Grannie minded CULT) don’t get the point that they are LEGISLATING Bill’s 2007 Christmas wish of “WHITE HOUSE PLEASURES”.
Posted by: kg | April 13, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
CLINTON = BETRAYAL
She betrayed Bill RichardSon after all LATINOS VOTED for her and even took an extra step calling him as Zero as not many LATINO VOTERS LEFT.
Bill Clinton BETRAYED his own marriage. Surprisingly, Usually Angry Hillary seems to worked out deals (Senator Post) after deals (President post).
Chelsey tell you “NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS”. I guess Hillary must have taught Chelsey that they OWN WHITE HOUSE.
CRAZY WOMAN still pushing for Obama as her VP behind scenes without a clue that no one will vote even Obama if he is in VP position.
Get a grip, its not about who Obama is but what his PATH is.
Posted by: kg | April 13, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
David or any other Obamapoloist:
Can you please tell us how it is “telling the truth” when you blame your lack of support among poor people on failed policies of the past? How is it telling the truth to argue that people’s religion, position on guns, gay rights, etc, results from government? Thats a pretty peculiar role for government; poor people just sit and wait for the government, and if they are upset, they run to Jesus, the NRA, and the anti-gay crowd. This is not “factual,” it is Obamalese.
I have no problem saying that people are angry over the economy and suspcious of economic policy or even immigration for those reasons. It is a completely different propisition to attribute those other concerns to anger with Bush and Clinton.
THE most disturbing thing about the commments is Obama, yet again, places blame elsewhere. Why is he losing the poor vote? Aw — Clinton and Bush! Why might he lose to McCain? Clinton and that nasty thing called democracy! Blaming your weaknesses on others will not make them go away.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Ruth,
What exactly is the act of desparation by the Clintons? Was it putting words in Obama’s mouth that were interpreted as insults?
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Obama, the howdy doody man! He’s distancing himself from his words now!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
New Yorker…
One of the main reasons Gore didn’t win was because he decided to distance himself from Clinton because of the Starr report.
It proved to be an unwise decision because even then Clinton was a beloved chief who accomplished a great deal of good for the country.
But maybe that was meant to be; Gore has come into his own since those days and has excelled in his environmental works.
Posted by: questioner | April 13, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Obama knows of what he speaks. He is so bitter over his childhood he ‘turned to his religion to express his frustration’ and Rev Wright obliged. His statement is patronizing. How dare he remark on any people turning to their religion with his 20 year record. He statement means ‘rural’ America is so backwards they shun those not like them, turn to their guns and religion…only have the intelligence to ‘vote wedge issues’. He was clearly talking down to ALL RURAL AMERICANS!
Posted by: Linda | April 13, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
WCM- Nice try using my post name so you can BLOG back one of your rants. I made a mistake posting to you. You are a waste of my time and shame on me for thinking you might have the ability to be civil. That’s not being an “elitist” – that is called being raised with manners and respect for others even though I may not agree with them. A concept clearly lost on you.
Posted by: Claire | April 13, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Paul~ Great Post!
It’s so true! Uneducated Americans typically vote for Hillary while Educated Americans vote for Obama!
Why? Because Obama supporters do their homework by researching the facts!
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
It is amazing how many people here in PA in the last couple days have jumped off the Obama bandwagon, and rightly so.
Posted by: Chuck | April 13, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Both Bill & Hillary are rich liars with Bosnia, S. Carolina, Whitewater, Whitehouse and more behind them now trying to shift emphasis to a minor comment from a true American – OBAMA – hop[efully americans can see the problem with Bill and Hillary coming forth!!!
Posted by: chet mccabe | April 13, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Let’s be honest. Tiger woods probably has more political savy and insight that Barak Osama Bin Laden.
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I’m trying to visualize the person who wrote this, and I’m seeing someone who has a couple of front teeth missing and plays the banjo on the front porch.
Posted by: lhummer | April 13, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Linda you are taking a small peace of what Obama has said and twisting it as much as possible. The sound bite as journalists say. Please, understand the whole sociological parameters of what he said. You will understand that Obama is fully and completly for rural Americans, the working families and hardworking classes, do not get him wrong at all. Hllary the Bosnain General is unelectable as you know, so the best option is the strongest candidate who is leading and who will beat McCain as a drum come November 2008. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Maybe there aren’t Bubbas driving around in pickup trucks with the classic bumpersticker “God, Guns and Guts Made America Free” where Obama’s detractors live, but here in rural Pennsylvania that line may as well replace “e pluribus unum” as the motto on the national currency.
I live in western Pennsylvania, and I can tell you, people here are bitter and angry. Poverty is prevalent. People hunt squirrels and eat them, along with racoon stew. People also hunt deer here, not for sport, but so they can put meat in their freezer so they can feed their families. They cut wood in the forests and heat their homes with wood stoves because they can’t afford to pay the gas bill. I know a guy who goes to old landfills to dig up old milk and beer bottles to sell on eBay. He uses the proceeds to buy clothes for his family at the Salvation Army (and to pay for his dial-up connection).
Racism and prejudice are ever-present here. A friend of mine is part-owner of bar in a small rural town south of where I live. I meet up with him there occasionally and watch as down-and-out people come in with their disability and welfare check money and drink it away. It’s a pretty depressing place, but it does serve as the social center for a town that has seen its few industries shut down and the local people’s jobs eliminated or shipped off elsewhere.
I hear the usual rants there, that it’s all the fault of gays and minorities and immigrants (although those aren’t the terms used, but rather the usual, virulent slurs). A black man walked in the last time I was there, and a guy near me at the bar muttered in a not-so-quiet way, “What’s he think he’s doing in here?” When I brought up the presidential race and Obama with another man at the bar, his response was, “there ain’t no way America is ever going to vote for a black guy.” Later on my bar-owner friend told me about his experience talking about Obama with another woman at the bar, and her angry response was that “it’s because of half-breed n*****s like him that America is in such bad shape today.”
Prejudice, racism and fear do run rampant in areas like this. People are poor. They are in bad health, overweight from a deep-fried diet, and toothless from the lack of dental care. They are unemployed. They are uneducated. They do cling to their hunting rifles and to their religious beliefs. For many, it is about all that they have. The towns around here are full of decaying, boarded up buildings. People live in rundown old trailers with abandoned cars in the front yard. I have seen people using an old car as a stable, with their goat tied to and living in it. I could drive you by a least three old houses that have Conderate flags in the windows.
So go ahead and discount Obama’s talk of how bitter and angry that some of the people of rural Pennsylvania are. Call him elitist for taking the time to pass through areas such as this to listen to what the people have to say, and to then relate what he has heard to people in more prosperous parts of the country when he is asked about it. I have lived in San Francisco, and let me tell you, there is a marked difference between the general attitude there and the attitude here in the “rust belt”. Go ahead and dismiss everything that Obama said as political posturing. Let Hillary and McCain “pick him apart” and parse his words. But please keep in mind that when Obama said:
“it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
that he is 100% accurate in his assessment.
I know, because I live here, my family and my friends’ families have lived here for generations, and we see it every day, all around this region. There is a very fine line between poverty and prosperity here, where making above $20,000 a year puts you in the realm of the “haves”, but also knowing that you’re one contract termination away from joining the ranks of the “have-nots”.
I come from a family of dairy farmers. I know what it’s like to spend up to 12-16 hours a day sitting on a tractor for three dollars an hour, which I did through high school and every summer until I was fortunate enough to head off to college. Many of my friends were also fortunate and went to school, and then relocated to other parts of the country. Some of us were able to come back under better circumstances, but the large majority of people here are not as fortunate.
Thirty years worth of the right wing dismantling our public education system has taken its toll. Thirty years worth of mismanagement of the economy, of shutting down factories and shipping jobs out of the country, of subsidizing corporate farms and taxing family farms out of business, has taken its toll.
Yes, people are angry, and bitter, but Obama never said that they aren’t resilient, opitmistic or hard-working. Those are Hillary and McCain’s twisted words, and for them to stand up and suggest that rural Pennsylvanians aren’t fed up with the way things are, only reveals how out of touch they really are with at least this part of the country.
Of course, all McCain has to do is suggest to poor rural folk that the party of gun-control, gay marriage, and NAFTA is going to take away what little they have left, and rural conservatives will vote for him, just as they did for Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. As for Hillary, the more she “takes apart” Obama’s message, the more she does the GOP’s work for free. If Hillary can’t see that the people of rural Pennsylvania are bitter, and angry, and mad as hell about the way things are, then she needs to step down from that one hundred million dollar platform of hers and take a real look around.
In western Pennsylvania I hear two things: the “God, Guns and Guts” crowd see John McCain as the heir-apparent to the mantle of rural conservative values; and the people who hope for some kind of change see Barack Obama as the person who understands the situation that we are in, and maybe is the one who can lead us in a new direction. What I don’t hear is anyone talking about whatever and whomever it is that Hillary claims to stand for.
Posted by: dave | April 13, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Barack Obama commenting: “these small towns in Pennsylvania, … then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion”, may not seem like a big deal by Obama supporters. However, this latest comment is added to the comments on the flag pin, no hand over his heart during National Anthem, proud to be American, the Farrakhan support and his pastor extremist views.
Hillary Clinton, like when she pressed Obama to reject Farrakhan support during the February debate, is correct pressing Barack Obama again on this subject of small towns’ voters to avoid an irreversible stigma in the general election. Such stigma specially among independent voters will be exploited by the GOP not only against the Presidential candidate but also against other party candidates for congress and governorships.
Posted by: Angel | April 13, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Claire don’t blame WCM, it was me.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
WAR. GUNS. CHURCH. AND LOOOOOOOTS OF MONEY!!!
(I love my guns)
HILLARY ’08!
Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I’m bitter because Bill Clinton said “All these economically insecure white people are scared to death”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html
So after reading this link could you please explain the differences here?
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
TJ
are YOU another paid B O blogger….
or is that you can only read information posted on the left side of an article?
Just curious….
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY
Posted by: questioner | April 13, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
TJ — wrong! Obama wins people with money, precisely because they are protected in today’s economy. Wealthy white Democrats will be fine, and college students are living on their parents and financial aid. Many will go to grad school. Poor people want specifics. That’s why they support the policy wonk. Wealthy white people want to convince the world that they are not racist — although they live in segregated neighborhoods, send their kids to segregated schools, and vigorously oppose policies seeking to distribute evenly school funding or to bus “innercity” kids to “their” schools. And while the nation continues to incarcerate more people than any other country — many of whom are poor and people of color — white Democrats will point to Obama to show how cool they are. Well, here’s the opinion of a black man: show me something real. I don’t need your pie in the sky cultish candidate. That is why people from poor backgrounds vote for Clinton. It is absolutely offensive and snobbish to deem Obama supporters more enlightened than others. I guess this is why this contraversy resonates with so many people.
By the way: I am as well credentialed as Bill, Hillary, Michelle, and Obama. People who have to go around saying that their education leads them to support Candidate X are really simpletons.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Each time Bill opens his mouth the Clinton campaign dives.
Posted by: Dave Z | April 13, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Please, please, please don’t talk about Nafta without acknowledging the fact that it was left to Bill Clinton as a fast-track fait accompli by Bush pere.
And you know, the problems with NAFTA, as detailed by Sirota and other vicious Clinton inquisitors, were addressed by Clinton with the so-called side agreements on labor and the environment that Clinton pushed through against obtuse intransigence from the Republican Congressional majority, and then immediately abrogated upon the coronation of Boy Caligula. The sheer poisonous gaseous intellectual dishonesty that permeates this discussion from people that surely know better remains at WMD level red.
Posted by: prospero | April 13, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
This is purely rubbish! Billiy Clinton is a liar, liar and liar. This is the man who told lies under oath while he was in office. Bill Clinton cheated on his wife not once, not twice, not thrice etc. He has forgotten how the Reps wanted to crucify him. Short memory or loss of memory. He disgraced the White House and spme of us stood behind him. And now he is bent on spending 4 more years in the WH. Does he have a sense of honour in making reference to the “bitter” statement? American politics is a kid’s game, because of people like the Clintons. If not, Bill will not dare mention the word “bitter”. He again told lies just three days again. “Hilary spoke in at 11 O’Clock when she was tired” At least Obama did not tell a lie, he spoke the truth. That is the difference between Obama and Bill. The truth is too tough for people like the Clintons. They have little respect for the voters, so they can bind their minds here and there. Obama is being honest with the voters.
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Kally-Williams | April 13, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Bishop | Apr 13, 2008 4:55:07 PM
Those who would claim that “Bush stole the election in 2000″, or that Ralph Nader was a spoiler are IN DENIAL of the devilish downside of the Clintons years!
The 2000 election SHOULD NOT have been close with a Bush, who could barely put two good ideas together!
People like yourself are finding it hard to accept how self-absorbed and self-destructive are the Clintons.
This even after the serial infidelities, which keeps sinking his ship with Americans.
However, take heart, Bishop, I too used to be ignorant of just how self-absorbed, self-destructive and devilish are the Clintons; but we can see the Clintons present destructiveness on full display, as they continue to undermine the Democratic chances in November if they are not allowed the THIRD TERM they believe they are entitled, especially against a ‘Black’ man! lol
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Hillary will grasp at anything. She is desperate. Barack Obama will be our next President. He speaks the truth. Too bad Clinton and and McCain cannot accept the truth. OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: DJ | April 13, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Hillary will grasp at anything. She is desperate. Barack Obama will be our next President. He speaks the truth. Too bad Clinton and and McCain cannot accept the truth. OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: DJ | April 13, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
I’m bitter because Bill Clinton’s foundation is tied to firm assisting China in Tibet crackdown! While Hillary criticises Bush for planning to attend the opening ceremonies for the Olympics!
Full Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-foundation-t_n_96413.html
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I’m bitter because Bill Clinton’s foundation is tied to firm assisting China in Tibet crackdown! While Hillary criticises Bush for planning to attending the opening ceremonies for the Olympics!
Full Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-foundation-t_n_96413.html
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Hillary will grasp at anything. She is desperate. Barack Obama will be our next President. He speaks the truth. Too bad Clinton and and McCain cannot accept the truth. OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: DJ | April 13, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Is an apology enough for such an ignorance, segregation and bitterness?
What kind of Unity is this? This sounds like dictatorship. It’s your ignorance, stupid Obama. You dont insult the poor and the aflicted for bad administrations and trying to become a therapist without no knowledge. This is scarier than people thought. Barack Obama is the biggest fiasco in the history of American politics.
Posted by: RossiMass | April 13, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
THIS JUST IN: Hillary supporters left bamboozled by her campaign of double standards. Her core base of fruit loops hang in there saying quote “The reason we can look past her Bosnia lies and free trade support is because we were lied to as children and we share that bond with Hillary. We’re victims just like Hillary.”
Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
New Yorker — still looks ignorant to me. Why is Clinton’s run a reflection of “entightlement”? I never heard that accusation made with respect to Bush. Neither Ted Kennedy. Or any of the other male candidates whose family members held office before. Sorry – but your anti-Clinton biases truly cloud your analysis. I started out this campaign open to either candidate. Watching how angry and hypocritical the Obama crowd is has turned me off to the Democratic party. I actually relish the opportunity to see them lose in November. It will be great for them, although they will still make the same mistake every four years. The party is the party of losers. Now that this is becoming apparent, Obama and company are looking to Clinton as a scapegoat. Interesting. The only poor people who are voting for him are black – but that’s Clinton’s fault. He might lose to McCain when the Republicans are at their lowest point in recent history — but, alas, that is Clinton’s fault too. You guys are beginning to sound like a bunch of litte boyz: “my mommy made me wash the dishes and I missed the game….sorry….” Grow up and take responsiblity.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
From Myrna Melgar who was actually at the Obama Fundraiser:
As someone who was at that now famous fundraiser where Barack spoke about the bitterness folks in rural America feel, I have grown increasingly bewildered at the Clinton campaign’s distortion of his words. The paragraph that has so spun out of control in the mainstream media was not a part of the speech itself, but rather a response to a question from someone in the audience (one of us!) who was planning on traveling to PA as a volunteer and was asking about what to expect. I listened to Barack’s response and was stuck by his emotional intelligence, deep empathy and understanding of our fellow Americans. It was in no way condescending or demeaning. So that you don’t think I am one of these so called elitist San Francisco rich who are out of touch with everyone else outside our bubble: I am a Latina, single mom, who immigrated to the Mission during the civil war in El Salvador. America has given me great opportunity, but I know struggle and discrimination. I have spent most of my career as a community and union organizer engaged in conflict with the “haves” and building leadership in poor communities of all colors to speak truth to power. Barack’s message of hope and inclusion of us all speaks to me and mine: White, black, immigrant, Latino, Asian, male, female, gay, straight. Of course people are bitter and angry! One of the foundational principles of community organizing in America has been to tap into the discontent of people who are oppressed and turn it towards positive change, so that the emotinal energy that fuels the anger will instead be used to motivate people to action for positive progress and change. It is a radically different message that the Obama philosophy espouses: we can change the world ourselves – we need to work hard and turn our bitterness and anger towards the actual work of holding government accountable. It applies to poorpeople in rural appalachia as much as it applies to poor people in the inner city public housing projects in Chicago. I am writing to remind us to stay on message and stay focused. For the past four days, the media has been going nuts over that comment, including folks in the Democratic party who should know better but whose self interests is perhaps to protect the paradigm of division that has kept them at the top of the fragile balance between Republicans and centrist Democrats over the past 20 years. This moment in American history is about WE the people, and millions of us have elected Barack to speak for us now, because he speaks the truth. Enough is enough. Let’s stay on message, and I have no doubt we’re going to win this one. Here is an excellent piece by someone who lives in Western Pennsylvannia about this brouhaha: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/184747/973/89/485030 Peace to all.
Posted by: alison | April 13, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Obama is a farce.
Posted by: nocity | April 13, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Sno-bama.
Obama = snob.
Obama = snow job.
Posted by: al | April 13, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
CLINTON = BETRAYAL
She betrayed Bill RichardSon after all LATINOS VOTED for her and even took an extra step calling him as Zero as not many LATINO VOTERS LEFT.
Bill Clinton BETRAYED his own marriage. Surprisingly, Usually Angry Hillary seems to worked out deals (Senator Post) after deals (President post).
Chelsey tell you “NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS”. I guess Hillary must have taught Chelsey that they OWN WHITE HOUSE.
CRAZY WOMAN still pushing for Obama as her VP behind scenes without a clue that no one will vote even Obama if he is in VP position.
Get a grip, its not about who Obama is but what his PATH is.
Posted by: kg | April 13, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Well that Scranton press avail this morning by HRC just did it. Mom is on the warpath! She’s now “mobilizing” her friends to protest at the debate in Philadelphia. My sister stopped by to check on Mom and she said there was practically “steam” coming out of Mom’s ears she’s so mad. She poured Mom some Jack Daniels, but even that didn’t calm her down. Mom’s swearing a blue streak and “working on” her poster slogans:
“I’m over 75, white, female and SERIOUSLY Pissed Off”
Not a good picture for TV.
Posted earlier this morning:
According to my Mom, a 78 year old, avid Obama supporter, Senator Obama was just being “polite” when he used the word bitter. “Most people are fed up and angry at the way Washington works for the few, the wealthy and the connected. In mixed company, he couldn’t say what people really feel – We’re PISSED OFF!.” Bitter is just a more polite way of expressing that sentiment according to my mother. According to Mom, her new campaign slogan is:
“Pissed Off and Ready for Change!”
She wanted to put that on a sign for her car and drive around HRC events in PA. My sister talked Mom out of that one, but then Mom saw the CNN Express bus parked over at the Phila. Art museum and got a better idea. “I could get behind Bill Schneider with my sign and then hold it up when he’s broadcasting”. Can you see the CNN coverage of a little old white lady yelling, “I’m Pissed Off and Ready for Change” being removed from the scene? Jack Cafferty would probably be the only one to cover it. My sister is talking about hiding Mom’s car keys until the PA primary is over.
Mom is now turning the TV off every time the talking heads start in on “her” candidate. Last month, the talking heads and the HRC campaign’s tactics got Mom so stirred up, she was hospitalized for a mini-stroke. “I’m not winding up back in the hospital because of these morons, I’m just writing another check, so take that you imbeciles!”. She’s also taken up writing Gov. Corzine of NJ, to “give him a piece of my taxpayer’s mind”. My sister and I can’t wait until the primaries are over, simply to keep Mom from having a major stroke.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
OMG! LOL! Straight from the Obama Blog! You got to read this one…
Well that Scranton press avail this morning by HRC just did it. Mom is on the warpath! She’s now “mobilizing” her friends to protest at the debate in Philadelphia. My sister stopped by to check on Mom and she said there was practically “steam” coming out of Mom’s ears she’s so mad. She poured Mom some Jack Daniels, but even that didn’t calm her down. Mom’s swearing a blue streak and “working on” her poster slogans:
“I’m over 75, white, female and SERIOUSLY Pissed Off”
Not a good picture for TV.
Posted earlier this morning:
According to my Mom, a 78 year old, avid Obama supporter, Senator Obama was just being “polite” when he used the word bitter. “Most people are fed up and angry at the way Washington works for the few, the wealthy and the connected. In mixed company, he couldn’t say what people really feel – We’re PISSED OFF!.” Bitter is just a more polite way of expressing that sentiment according to my mother. According to Mom, her new campaign slogan is:
“Pissed Off and Ready for Change!”
She wanted to put that on a sign for her car and drive around HRC events in PA. My sister talked Mom out of that one, but then Mom saw the CNN Express bus parked over at the Phila. Art museum and got a better idea. “I could get behind Bill Schneider with my sign and then hold it up when he’s broadcasting”. Can you see the CNN coverage of a little old white lady yelling, “I’m Pissed Off and Ready for Change” being removed from the scene? Jack Cafferty would probably be the only one to cover it. My sister is talking about hiding Mom’s car keys until the PA primary is over.
Mom is now turning the TV off every time the talking heads start in on “her” candidate. Last month, the talking heads and the HRC campaign’s tactics got Mom so stirred up, she was hospitalized for a mini-stroke. “I’m not winding up back in the hospital because of these morons, I’m just writing another check, so take that you imbeciles!”. She’s also taken up writing Gov. Corzine of NJ, to “give him a piece of my taxpayer’s mind”. My sister and I can’t wait until the primaries are over, simply to keep Mom from having a major stroke.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
New Yorker – For the record of your tiny brain, the American people did choose Al Gore.
Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | April 13, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Barack Obama’s statements don’t come out of aloofness They come from personal experience clinging himself to satanic sects and cultivating violence and resentement due to the incapacity to adjust to society and to blame thier misery to others. Barack and Obama are the perfect example of what goes wrong in America and it is their constant insult to the majority of the American people who suffer and dont want recrimination from ambitious politicians with no regard but to themselves. Sad.
Posted by: Josephm | April 13, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
opps, sorry for the double-post!
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
TJ — was that woman carrying her gun or bible? Did the blog mention that?
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Alison — please. Daily Kos is one of the most pathetic blogs on the web. It is patently anti-Clinton and is an embarassment to progressives. They are just a bunch of self-righteous white liberals with nice jobs and homes in segregated communities with kids in segregated schools who want to feel good pretending that Obama is going to end captialism – when they know damn well that he is not. LOL. This is all perfect theatre.
PS: sorry – why should we trust a donor invited to the 2000 dollar “meeting”? Of course she is going to write a campaign essay. You guys are making the Democrats look even more pathetic than we are.
Posted by: tony | April 13, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
When are they going to retire Mr. Potato Head, Bill Clinton, Anyways?
He has a Potato Head adulteror outfit, that every Potato Head (mistress), in a blue dress, is aware of.
He has a Potato Head Outfit for the black church….as well as another one for the white church.
He dresses in Potato Head Presidential dress, for those commitments that have him actually looking like a president.
He also has an animal Potato Head outfit that makes him look similar to a cross between a horse and a mule. That’s his every day outfit though. You’ve probably seen it….it’s usually what he wears, every time he speaks publicly.
Everything that comes out of his mouth, sounds like a cross between a mule and a horse.
Hee—Haawww!
Posted by: Steven Wilson | April 13, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
HILLARY’S POOR JUDGMENT leaves AMERICANS FOOTING THE Bill
.
THE WAR IN IRAQ IS HAVING SERIOUS NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON OUR ECONOMY and those who voted for the war (i.e. hillary) should be to blame, in part, for the state of the US economy.
Look how the WAR IN IRAQ is affecting the US economy…
$3,000,000,000… 3 Billion dollars PER WEEK!
That is the amount America is paying for the Iraq War PER WEEK, money that should have been used here, at home.
Add to this:
Interest. We are financing the war with borrowed money (e.g. treasuries) that carries interest; so in actuality, the war is costing the United States MORE THAN 3 billion dollars PER WEEK.
Higher oil and energy prices. Instability in Iraq is adding roughly 30 dollars per barrel as a premium.
High utility bills. High oil prices mean high utility bills. Higher oil prices shifts demand to other sources of energy – gas, coal, etc. – and greater demand will raise the equilibrium price of all sources of energy — Can you say high energy bills?
Higher oil prices (a raw material used in the production of many goods, fertilizers, gasoline, diesel, plastics, etc.) mean higher prices of goods and services — Can you say INFLATION?
Higher oil prices mean a higher trade deficit because most of our oil comes from foreign sources. A higher trade deficit means more money is leaving the country than is coming into the country — Can you say Goodbye to your hard-earned money!
Our dollar is weak and getting weaker. Since we have a trade deficit and is growing in large part to the rising cost of imported oil, the value of goods and services we import exceeds the value of goods we export. You know that foreign car you’re thinking of buying or the computer you’re using, or that trip abroad you’ve been thinking of taking….well, guess what? It is going to cost more, Ceteris Peribus, because the dollar is weak and getting weaker.
Lastly, how do you think the world views our country since the argument was made for war? The evidence was weak and circumstantial, yet we rushed into war with Iraq thanks to hillary’s authorization.
Hillary VOTED FOR THE WAR
Posted by: Jackie | April 13, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Obama includes religion, along with guns, xenophobia, and bigotry as things that small town
people cling to because they are bitter at their economic disadvantage.
He says this in private to wealthy San Fransisco donors, who probably feel the same way and
did not consider it controversial.
His attempt to “unsay” it and claim that what he meant to say was some construct he obviously
wished he had said was laughable.
There was nothing unclear about his original statement on April 6. He thinks religion is an
anachronism that will disappear with prosperity.
While his supporters may “cling” to the hope that this will blow over, Obama is toast.
Americans will rightfully not elect a secular humanist or atheist as president.
Posted by: John | April 13, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Whoever doesn’t feel ofended by this abomination are the masochistic Barack Obama’s followers who are used the humiliation for their seudo leader. Does he care? Of course, not.
Posted by: MOlson | April 13, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I think what is more depressing than anything else is all the name-calling, crap-slinging, fallacies, rumors, and lies that consistently get posted on every single news site which allows public, uncensored comments.
If you don’t believe this election is dividing people, then you might just need to look again. Maybe it’s a problem with the internet (instead of the people posting on it) but I cannot imagine any of these comments being said in real life without fisticuffs breaking out.
Look at who you are insulting when you post. You’re not insulting a murderer or a rapist, a thief or an arsonist, an abuser or a kidnapper (well.. perhaps you are, it IS the internet). You are insulting your “fellow American”. You’re insulting your brothers and sisters, the people who are supposed to be there to take care of you when you’re down and out of luck.
Maybe some day internet debates will be based off of reason, compassion, and morality (and perhaps literacy and correct grammar will follow!), but for now it is just an excellent way to depress one’s self if they care about other people and their lives. It is also an excellent way to throw one’s hate and daily frustration on other people, making them hateful and frustrated (and bitter) as well.
I wish we’d all start citing facts, straying away from misinterpretations, heading towards trying to find the truth.
Name-calling and petty arguments are not going to lead Americans into finding the right candidate for their country. Name-calling and petty arguments are what politicians WANT. It is the game of which they are masters. If the game is reversed by the average man and woman, politicians will start having to cite their own “facts”, show where they have come up with their “own opinions”, and show how these policies ACTUALLY benefits Americans (and how their drawbacks affect us, too).
Maybe one day I can log on the internet and see people arguing in hopes of finding the truth (and therefore, the best leader for our nation) instead of seeing them blindly rush forward to attack or defend a candidate. All the candidates have flaws, but I can tell you this much without having to know anything about them, and I wish you to take home this point if nothing else:
One of candidates is the best leader for our country and the others are not (though they may be close). It is up to us, the people, to ensure that candidate is the best. When we don’t do that, we fail as Americans.
Posted by: an American sad for Americans | April 13, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Posted by: Aston | Apr 13, 2008 5:28:54 PM
In the other post, I outlined why the “Clinton years” were a mix bag with horror show, which clogged up America’s government with an IMPEACHMENT; because of Clintons’ LYING disposition!
Now this post is about why President Obama will be uniquely qualified and very very good for America!
1. Barack’s mom spent her life in helping to empower women in Asia, whom she came to recognize as been far worse off than her sisters in America.
2. Barack’s mom OBVIOUSLY passed on her COMPASSIONATE CHARACTERISTICS (along with other good ones) to her only son.
3. The HIGHLY INTELLIGENT and concerned Obama was a Community Organizer out of college.
He was especially helpful to working families who lost their jobs when the UNPATRIOTIC POLICIES of Washington’s UNPATRIOTIC POLITICIANS allowed American jobs to be shipped over seas.
4. After Harvard Law School, the HIGHLY EDUCATED Obama was a Civil Rights lawyer, AGAIN for the ‘average joe’ in his Community.
5. Then the INSIGHTFUL Obama recognizes that having political power would allow him to do more for his community; and so the people of his community elected him to the State Legislature to go work for them.
6. The alert Americans of Obama’s community AGAIN sent him to Washington as a US Senator to go ‘do his thing’ for them.
7. And now Americans in droves from all over are rightly convinced and motivated by the fact that President Obama WILL serve THEIR INTERESTS in the highest office of the land.
8. Barack Obama is well connected genetically.
a) Obama descends from a lineage that produced leaders of men and of women.
b) Barack Obama is the son of PhDs.
c) Barack’s dad emerged from the sticks of African jungle to attain the highest degree from the top University in the most industrialize nation on the earth!
Barack’s dad was a Harvard Phd.
d) Like he and his dad before him, Barack’s wife is ALSO a Harvard grad.
9) Notice the highly intelligent, highly effective, highly effecient and highly successful campaing run by Barack Obama?
That’s a sign of good leadership.
10) While campaigning for the Senate, Obama was on the stumps analyzing the down side of the the wasteful Iraq war versus NO UPSIDE.
Barack Obama showed his ‘stones’ to public opposed the bungling Bush war, while too many Americans COWER IN IGNORANCE & FEAR.
Some did not even bother to read the Intelligence Estimate, considering that TENS OF THOUSANDS of Americans could lose lives, limbs, mental health, and America’s treasury could be severly depleted, while the maniac muslims have a field day in AFGHANISTAN & PAKISTAN!
11. I could go on; but you should get the point if you are one of those fortunate few who is lucky to have escaped our wide spread substandard educational system.
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Everybody is waiting for the next polls. When is the funeral?It is about time for the Obama fiasco to end with grace.
Posted by: Hugo Suarez | April 13, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
April 9, 2008 — the Paul v Clinton web site is launched to expose the public to the landmark civil fraud suit pending in California against Hillary and Bill Clinton and their associates.
The first lawsuit to haul a President and a Senator into Court for defrauding the Senator’s largest donor as part of a conspiracy to illegally win and keep a US Senate seat will begin discovery in May, 2008 as it proceeds to trial as confirmed by the California Supreme Court.
The discovery will expose an ongoing cover-up of the campaign finance crimes and the obstructions of justice directed by Hillary Clinton with the help of Bill Clinton and former DNC Chair Ed Rendell. The cover-up rivals Watergate in its corruption of each branch of government and the media.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
BLAME THE SPEECH WRITER
Obama is a politician with a great speech writer…. nothing more.
Last week’s fiasco was effected by the absence of this wordwriter…so B O remains absolutely blameless for those syllables emanating from his mouth.
In essence, his velvet tongue got caught between his true thoughts and his loose lips.
It is hard to use Liquid Paper on the spoken word, but being the Teflon Man Obama might very well find a way.
My point is this:
Since most of Obama’s programs are actually echoes of Hillary’s solutions anyways, WHY DON’T WE JUST HIRE THE SPEECH WRITER…..and hit” delete delete’ to Obama’s candidacy?
That’s the way HE won his state senatorship in Illinois.
That’s also the way HE ran his campaign for the US Senate.
To level the election playing field,
he connnived to eliminate his opponents…by actions bordering on the Illegal.
It’s the truth, it’s actual:you can check it out at the Chicago Tribune.
And isn’t turn-about fair play?..
especially in politics.
Posted by: questioner | April 13, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Claire,
just like the Obama misogynist who posted on this blog earlier using the most profoundly vile expletives imaginable, you’re obviously beyond bitter and desperate as well.
Earlier, I wrote to a misinformed individual about his erroneous assertions that Bill Clinton was the originator of NAFTA. I told him to do his homework because it was Bush Senior who initially enacted NAFTA. I never used profanity, as your fellow Obama-blogger did. You and your fellow Obama-bloggers illustrate the real difference between Hillary supporters and her detractors. Many Hillary supporters are highly educated, articulate, and informed. There’s no comparison between what we post, and the specious tripe some Obama supporters post on this and other blogs.
Posted by: Emily | April 13, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
SOLUTIONS (war) FOR AMERICA!
HILLARY ’08!
Posted by: Matt | April 13, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Oh yeah, get an Obama education 101!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGBWKK/commentary#comments
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I’m sorry to see Clintons grasping to this level of dirty politics to win. Here is one democrat that will not vote for Clinton
Posted by: bg | April 13, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I spent most of my life in a small town. Barack Obama is 100% correct. Not politically correct.. just correct.
Posted by: PulSamsara | April 13, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
In the other post, I outlined why the “Clinton years” were a mix bag with horror show, which clogged up America’s government with an IMPEACHMENT; because of the Clintons’ LYING and shameless disposition!
Clinton years were NOT GOOD ENOUGH for an Al Gore succession, says the American people!
Now this post is about why President Obama will be uniquely qualified and very very good for America!
1. Barack’s mom spent her life in helping to empower women in Asia, whom she came to recognize as been far worse off than her American ‘sisters’.
2. Barack’s mom OBVIOUSLY passed on her COMPASSIONATE CHARACTERISTICS (along with other good ones) to her only son.
3. The HIGHLY INTELLIGENT and concerned Obama was a Community Organizer out of college.
He was especially helpful to working families who lost their jobs when the UNPATRIOTIC POLICIES of Washington’s UNPATRIOTIC POLITICIANS allowed American jobs to be shipped over seas, and left American workers and their families scattered to the four winds.
4. After Harvard Law School, the HIGHLY EDUCATED Obama was a Civil Rights lawyer, AGAIN for the ‘average joe’ in his Community.
5. Then the INSIGHTFUL Obama recognized that having political power would allow him to do more for his community; and so the people of his community elected him to the State Legislature to go work for them.
6. Then alert Americans of Obama’s community AGAIN sent him to Washington as a US Senator to go ‘do his thing’ for them.
7. And now Americans in droves from all over are rightly convinced and motivated by the fact that President Obama WILL serve THEIR INTERESTS in the highest office of the land.
8. Barack Obama is well connected genetically.
a) Obama descends from a lineage that produced leaders of men and of women.
b) Barack Obama is the son of PhDs.
c) Barack’s dad emerged from the sticks of African jungle to attain the highest degree from the top University in the most industrialized nation on the earth!
Barack’s dad was a Harvard Phd.
d) Like he and his dad before him, Barack’s wife is ALSO a Harvard grad and a damn fine, dignified and principled female lawyer.
9) Notice the highly intelligent, highly effective, highly efficient and highly successful campaign run by Barack Obama?
That’s a sign of good leadership.
10) While campaigning for the Senate, Obama was on the stumps analyzing the down side of the the wasteful Iraq war versus NO UPSIDE.
Barack Obama showed his ‘stones’ to publicly opposed the bungling Bush war, while too many Americans COWER IN IGNORANCE & FEAR.
Some of our lost leaders did not even bother to read the Intelligence Estimate, considering that TENS OF THOUSANDS of Americans could lose lives, limbs, mental health, and America’s treasury could be severly depleted, while the maniac muslims have a field day in AFGHANISTAN & PAKISTAN, to this day!
11. I could go on; but ….
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Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Obama pointed out feelings of those who were promised by both Administration, over the last thirty years, in campaigns, a revival, that never happened, so the surplus did noting for them, those good years of Clinton, have nothing to do with their reality.
But that has not stopped Hillary Bill supporters from saying, we had a surpluses, when what they got was; downsizing, out sourcing, training foreigners, who went home with your job, crumbling factories, the Clinton years past them by, the Bush years were even more bitter pills pasting them by and too take, after being feared into voting for Bush’s, he never even, stop in middle and small town America again, Bush did fly over and say, wow, is that what Katrina’s did.
Well there are Katrina’s all over America. Bill Clinton had some great years, but to think and say, those good years, happened to all is not true and when those Clinton years didn’t happen for all and finally Obama get’s their voice out, a bunch of Hillary Bill, McCain supporters, tell them, your lying, you’re an elitists, your condescending, you small town, Middle Americans, you really prospered, don’t you remember the surplus’s, is the height of arrogance and absurdity and an out right insult to those who have had no voice about how they really feel, now since Obama came out to stand for a change in leaving some behind as America left some behind… in… Katrina some have nothing but Clinton surplus year blinders on.
The Iraq conflict, NAFTA, Bosnia, Hillary voting against Guns repeatedly, Woman and kid dying Health story, Bill saying much the same thing years ago, Obama said and on and on, but it’s only about race for some Hillary Bill supporters, they believe how can you support Obama, he’s black and unproven insignificant, interloper, Hillary and Bill are proven commodities, there the only answer for you black people, you just want to be victims and how is it your churches are saying what Rev. Wright said, in his SERMONS, (not one has listen to the whole sermons, I advise you to keep your mouths off of God’s Ministers), lump us all together, America has two different histories, when it comes to black America and that is, Many believe white history is the right and only history and black history is wrong, we will keep telling America the truth and when you finally realize the two histories are not the same, may perhaps we can have a conversation, absent white demands, that black people, first not believe what white’s don’t believe happened.
Let’s talk.
Posted by: Brice | April 13, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Obama pointed out feelings of those who were promised by both Administration, over the last thirty years, in campaigns, a revival, that never happened, so the surplus did noting for them, those good years of Clinton, have nothing to do with their reality.
But that has not stopped Hillary Bill supporters from saying, we had a surpluses, when what they got was; downsizing, out sourcing, training foreigners, who went home with your job, crumbling factories, the Clinton years past them by, the Bush years were even more bitter pills pasting them by and too take, after being feared into voting for Bush’s, he never even, stop in middle and small town America again, Bush did fly over and say, wow, is that what Katrina’s did.
Well there are Katrina’s all over America. Bill Clinton had some great years, but to think and say, those good years, happened to all is not true and when those Clinton years didn’t happen for all and finally Obama get’s their voice out, a bunch of Hillary Bill, McCain supporters, tell them, your lying, you’re an elitists, your condescending, you small town, Middle Americans, you really prospered, don’t you remember the surplus’s, is the height of arrogance and absurdity and an out right insult to those who have had no voice about how they really feel, now since Obama came out to stand for a change in leaving some behind as America left some behind… in… Katrina some have nothing but Clinton surplus year blinders on.
The Iraq conflict, NAFTA, Bosnia, Hillary voting against Guns repeatedly, Woman and kid dying Health story, Bill saying much the same thing years ago, Obama said and on and on, but it’s only about race for some Hillary Bill supporters, they believe how can you support Obama, he’s black and unproven insignificant, interloper, Hillary and Bill are proven commodities, there the only answer for you black people, you just want to be victims and how is it your churches are saying what Rev. Wright said, in his SERMONS, (not one has listen to the whole sermons, I advise you to keep your mouths off of God’s Ministers), lump us all together, America has two different histories, when it comes to black America and that is, Many believe white history is the right and only history and black history is wrong, we will keep telling America the truth and when you finally realize the two histories are not the same, may perhaps we can have a conversation, absent white demands, that black people, first not believe what white’s don’t believe happened.
Let’s talk.
Posted by: Brice | April 13, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
boneheaded, chicago | Apr 13, 2008 6:39:44 PM
Yes, Bonehead, the American people DID choose AL Gore.
And they re-elected him in 2004. lol
Wake the hell up, from your drug induce stupor, BONE HEAD? lol
If American people had chosen AL Gore, THEY WOULD HAVE INSISTED ON HIM BEING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, instead of a dumb bush. lol
The American people were TOO ASHAMED of the shameless Clintons to put up a fight for Clinton THIRD TERM.
And now some of the lost souls from 2000 still cannot get it that the Clintons are SELFISH & SELF-ABSORBED & SELF-DESTRUCTIVE LOSERS, who will build up a nice legacy and then tear it down and DENY AL GORE!
And the Clintons WILL AGAIN seek to tear down the Democratic Party AND DENY DEMOCRATS IN November. Watch!
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Here’s a link to the inner city violence that is ravaging Obama’s own backyard. Talk about the pot calling the kettle, violence, church, its all there. More than 20 kids have been killed going to and from school in Chicago’s inner city neighborhoods. Whats Obama done to help that except attend the church that promotes anger and violence as a means to rile up more anger while Obama works with and promotes the corrupt developers (Rezko and Co.) that have stolen the money that was supposed to provide the low cost housing that these people need. Here’s Anderson Cooper’s report:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/08/more-children-killed-more-children-changing-the-world/
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
1. The Clinton years were a MIXED BAG!
2. Al Gore was UNABLE to extend the ‘stained’ ‘Clinton years’ pass the turned up noses of Americans. Thank god! lol
3. As was foreshadowed by his ineptness from the start, the ‘Bush years’ are a horror show. But sadly for America’s karma, that was what the Clinton years merit — a continued slide into the American abyss.
4. If only the Clintons were not so self-destructive, they would have cooled their self-absorbed jets over the years, appear more ‘humble’, less arrogant, less ‘entitled’, and allow the Bush years to redeem the horror shows of the Clinton years.
5. Now we see the Clintons as LIARS and as self-absorbed and self-destructive as ever.
6. Notice the Clintons cashing in on trade deals on the one hand, and FEIGN opposition on the other.
American workers, BE NOT FOOLED by the self-absorbed Clintons.
Those who are shameless cannot care for Americans, cannot care for the Presidency of AL Gore!
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Emily, do you think that if GHBush has signed the first round of NAFTA then Bill must have signed it automatically as elected president? What a narrow mind. Bill has taken his roles and responsiblities and signed NAFTA and has shipped jobs overseas and Hill was supporting him very actively, therefore OHIO, PEN ,NC,MI, SD,TX have now their jobs, gone, and Obama wants to get these back and make sure the middle class is up and running again. Obama has not received 800 000 from the Colombian government to promote SAFTA-Colombia, but Bill-Hill-Penn, America wake-up and make a difference between leaders who love you and leaders who want to use you for their benefit and bank account. Hillary the Bosnian General is unelectable. Period. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
GO AWAY, Bill and Hillary. I am so sick of the way they twist and turn anything of their opponents to their advantage while they continue to lie about any and everything themselves. They reek of sleaze and frankly, I find them embarassing.
And I am appalled at the people who glean their news from sound bites and don’t bother to find out what was really said.
Posted by: Liz | April 13, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
As we speak, Obama’s small army is re-framing what he said. Pretty myopic, aren’t you?
Posted by: S | April 13, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Don’t know about the young un’s here who war’ larnin’ thar ‘ritmatik when Big Bill wuz President, but ah know ah wuz a lot betta off than with Bush Boy.
Obama’s people are inventing snipers that didn’t exist then either.
Obama’s is condescending. The mistake he made is talking up to some people by talking down about others. The populist economy speech is simpler than that: Jobs Jobs Jobs.
Harvard teaches too well how to manage by talking but not how to work by working.
Posted by: len | April 13, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
This all is a useless, polarizing waste of energy and time. Hillary drones will believe and say anything, so I’ll leave you too your dreams, the one good thing about a dream is you wake up.
Unless your programmed by the past history and you must conform to that past. Look to the future, turn the freaking page and get on with life, being afraid to move on and believe in your selves is scary stuff, if your uses to being told what you believe, get a spine, stand up and allow others to have their voice, instead of parroting lies, endlessly, wishing for the past to return, those good old Clinton years are gone, let them rest and get on with the future.
Clinton’s are haters and will hate as good as they have been hated, I don’t want them near power again, or Bush/McCain symbot’s. Instead of staying with your Clinton safe food, try moving out from under their telling you what your solutions is and what they have to give you, try a seat at the table and speak for your self, but be careful, some of the people at the table will be feeling scared there self’s, they been left out of successive administrations and never sat a table, or had a voice.
Stop waiting for Hillary and Bill to tell you the answers, what do you think and say, remember the other Americans, might want their voices heard and not be willing, to be told what the solutions are.
Scary stuff thinking for yourself.
Posted by: Bruce | April 13, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Obama,
You didn’t mean to say bitter. You meant to say butter. You’re going to bring us small town folks guns and butter. When we’re good and buttered up we’ll be a’votin’ for you.
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I feel a mighty speech a comin’ on!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Okay, the bill and hill show finally has something to talk about again. Better stay away from the “elitist” criticism though- the big old multi-millionaire pot calling the kettle black. Whoops, I forgot they already did that to explain why Obama’s “luck” in South Carolina and everywhere else. How many urban communities or rural ones for that matter have Bill and Hillary stooped down to help at the community level. This is an argument they can only look silly making.
Posted by: sean o | April 13, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
West Coast Mess:
I don’t think Obama could penetrate the layers of butter laid on you by the Clintonistas. You’re so “deep-fried” in Clinton loyalty, that you’re probably eating at McDonalds every day — remember when that was his favorite food?
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 13, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
It amazes me that people still make excuses for Barack Obama. I also think its funny that he claims to be a uniter, but if you look at the record, really has not worked across the isle much while in the Senate. Hillary Clinton has worked with many republicans on many issues while in the Senate. I am just glad that I am not fooled by Obama, because he is a good talker and nothing more. I cringe as a Democrat at the thought of Obama going against McCain. He helps pass one bill in the U.S. Senate, and he thinks he is qualified to be President of The United States. Obama can’t even have one Hearing on Afghanistan, to which he is the chairman of that committee. I see nothing special about Obama, just another politician who tells you what you want to hear, and like I said before, I am so glad that I have not fallen for it.
Posted by: PB | April 13, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Yes we are loyal to Hillary and Bill I like smart people who have already proven what they can do for thier country
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Hillary is just so smart how could you not like her.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Its disgusting to here such comment from a the Bill the MOST SHAMELESS STRAIGHT FACED PATHOLOGICAL LIER in recent history…
I am sick an bitter of any coverage of the most Straight faced liers like the Clitons…
Posted by: moeen | April 13, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Hillary is terrible. How could she claim being on the side of the american workers when leaders in her team are currently working against the american people interest. Guest what, Penn is not gone from the team he is still a lead player in her campain. The idea of conflict of interest is real but only in conflict with Hillary attempt to get the nomination. to her he is not in conflict with the american interest.
If she is really honest she should have fired him not hiding him from the public.
Posted by: leche | April 13, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
It really irks me when people say, “Obama inspires,” or “He promotes change.” While I concede that he is a good speaker, I don’t know exactly what he could possibly bring to the country that Hillary Clinton couldn’t. To me, he only seems like a good speaker, nothing else, which is why I support Hillary Clinton. If Obama happened to get the nomination, I’ll sit out this year in the november election. I can’t vote for him, especially after the Rev. Wright incident.
Posted by: Wes | April 13, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Claire,
I don’t engage in those kinds of antics, I follow a code of ethics. Either you pulled that stunt yourself and then went schizoid on us, or some other joker did it, and in that case it happens to the best of us (happens to me all the time, although less often now since I started sniffing out IPs of the perpetrators.
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Leche, sus palabras son iguales guano
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Jackt51,
I’m a squirrel eating man myself, sittin’ up in my small house, in my small town, clutching my trusty double barrel in one hand, and by Bible in the other, waiting for The Great Wizard of Obama to come give me a job — if I only had a job.
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Dorothy, if I only had a job!
Let’s go see the Wizard of Obama!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Bill Clinton said something very similar to what Obama said and it was printed in The LA Times in 1991, “You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I’m from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they’re gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they’ve been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country’s coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, ‘What happened to everybody’s job? What happened to everybody’s income? What … have … you … done … to … our … country?’”
Posted by: StevenAK | April 13, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Bill Clinton is da bomb. He would win by a landslide if he could run again.
Posted by: jrterrier | April 13, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Moeen,
I think you mean to say liar. A lier would be someone that is lying down. As far as I can tell Hillary is standing up. She stands up for America. She stands up for all voters. She stands up for Democrats. She stands up for the people in small towns all across America.
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Obama, he just needs to lie down and take a deep breath for awhile!
Obama, did you jump the shark?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
It’s okay Barack, Michelle and Jeremiah. We hate you, too.
Posted by: Derrick Rogers | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
@westcoastmessenger
you said:
“Garett,
New Yorker is the only person to make a thoughtful comment? You must be one of those small-minded bitter people that Obama was referring to. Good thing you have New Yorker to think for you, sitting over in a corner, clutching a gun, reading your Bible, and trembling, waiting for Obama to save us.”
thanks for proving my point.
Im small minded, you just accused me, obviously w/o reading any of my prior comments of a whole host of things that if you were indeed intelligent enough to read back…you would see how incredibly stupid you look.
New Yorker does my thinking for me?
not only that but i defended both candidates in my post so why would you assume im an obama supporter? and why am i clutching a bible and a gun? do those things automatically go together, who’s small minded? you are, you self righteous douchebag. People like you are what this administration counts on…congrats. unlike you, i dont wait for anyone to save me, so clutch your idiocy and wait for…well…nothing will happen because you are too ignorant to think outside of your little world.
Posted by: Garrett | April 13, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
@westcoastmessenger
you said:
“Garett,
New Yorker is the only person to make a thoughtful comment? You must be one of those small-minded bitter people that Obama was referring to. Good thing you have New Yorker to think for you, sitting over in a corner, clutching a gun, reading your Bible, and trembling, waiting for Obama to save us.”
thanks for proving my point.
Im small minded, you just accused me, obviously w/o reading any of my prior comments of a whole host of things that if you were indeed intelligent enough to read back…you would see how incredibly stupid you look.
New Yorker does my thinking for me?
not only that but i defended both candidates in my post so why would you assume im an obama supporter? and why am i clutching a bible and a gun? do those things automatically go together, who’s small minded? you are, you self righteous douchebag. People like you are what this administration counts on…congrats. unlike you, i dont wait for anyone to save me, so clutch your idiocy and wait for…well…nothing will happen because you are too ignorant to think outside of your little world.
Posted by: Garrett | April 13, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I just watched him live on CNN. He just reminded me of a really BAD actor stumbling over his words, saying “uh….uh….uh…..” and trying to remember his lines.
This guy is a joke.
God bless Hillary. HILLARY ‘08!
Posted by: jasonPA | April 13, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
JasonPA- I know! Obama reminds me of a bad actor too, or a used car salesman.
Posted by: Melissa67 | April 13, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Zorro was right. I too have fears of Obama as I did when Bush Jr. was running for the second term. The younger are falling for Obamas smooth talk of change and his charisma, be it may,just as the evangelicals fell for Bush being such a good Christian. And look what we got! It was also interesting to hear Obama mention the people from the small towns being so frustrated because of all the changes being thrown at them so fast. I wonder how frustrated his changes will make them??????? As isn’t he all about change? Also let’s not forget about the economy when Clinton was President and our country being totally out of debt. Also he has travelled the world fighting aides, worked on raising money for New Orleans and other world wide charities. Despite of the money they have made, they have always been for the blacks only to have them completely desert them for another black. I also worked on preservation and in l998 he enacted some good preservation laws only to have them all done away with after Bush came in. We are voting for The President of the United States here and I sincerely feel the Clintons reflect thru their past continued work in this country far more qualified and concerned about everyone than Obama. Problem is, they have been so scrutinized by the Republicans and people have dragged all the personal stuff thru the mill. I often wonder if the ones who are still hounding about Bill’s affair would be able to cast any stones themselves if they would be honest with themselves? My Mother always said when we did name calling “It takes one to know one”.
Posted by: Davanna2 | April 13, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
To All Hillary Supporters From DarrellP:
We need to make sure that Obama’s comments about some voters being bitter and Wright’s comments stay in the light and forefront of all voter’s minds throughout the rest of this campaign season, it is now very obvious to me that Obama has very poor judgment, and just talks entirely too much, why would he say something like that he’s trying to win votes from all Democrats to become the Nominee.
I will say this time and time again, Obama is not ready to be Commander and Chief of this Country, if Obama says things like this now, just think what he would say or do if he becomes President? I’m afraid to imagine, Obama is not to be trusted, and Obama supporters need to think long and hard of the negative consequences they will have caused for helping to put this novice Senator in office who really don’t know what the heck he’s doing.
Obama has done several things during this election process underhandedly to divide our party by race, and gender, now he dividing us by economic class by saying some voters are bitter, when are we going to wake-up and realize that Obama is a divider, not a uniter and change agent he tries to portray himself to be on the campaign trail, the longer Hillary stay’s in the race, the more Obama is going to reveal his true personality and demeanor, and that’s a good thing, our party is finally going to see what type of person they’re trying to nominate to fight McCain in the general election, and if this happens, we may as well be calling Senator McCain Mr. President in 09, because we will surly lose this race having Obama as our nominee, and if Obama is the Nominee instead of Hillary, he will not get my vote, this Black American will stay home or vote for Ralph Nader on General Election Day, try and block Obama’s Presidency, and let the chips fall where they may.
I’m saying; if we lose this election due to making Obama the nominee, I don’t want to hear no whining and/or complaining from anyone about the mistake they made for voting for Obama, Our Democratic Party’s Voters and Leaders would have gotten what We deserved for putting a “Johnny Come Lately” Senator up to representing our party for the Presidency in the first place over a more experienced Senator, Hillary Clinton, who is more qualified to fix the mess more quickly that Bush will leave behind in 09. One of Obama’s campaign slogan is “A Change We Can Believe In,” he’s right about that, I believe he would definitely be making changes, but not for the better, but for the worst for all America in the long-term.
Our best bet and hope of beating McCain is to go with Hillary to try and win the general election, and send Obama back to Illinois, because if we don’t, we will have 4 or 8 more years of Republican Rule, do we as Democrats really want to take that Chance on a novice Senator? I surely don’t, we better consider and count the cost for making such a mistake like this, the Republicans made a mistake in 2004 for putting Bush back in office for another four years, now we have a war with no end in sight, a felling housing and job market, increased poverty, and a recession just around the corner, please don’t let our party make a similar mistake by making Obama the Democratic Nominee, and if I where a betting man, I would put my money on Hillary to be the winner over McCain, her chances are better in bringing home the Presidency for the Democratic Party over Obama.
I also heard the Al Gore and Jimmy Carter may team up and try to force Hillary to leave the race for the good of the party, if they do this, and Hillary leaves the race, I will not vote in the general election and I will stay home,or I may vote for Ralph Nader or John McCain,but not for Obama at all, this man is not ready to be President, I don’t care how many votes he’s gotten, Obama is not Presiedential material in my book, and I hope all Hillary Supporters do the same as I do, if Hillary leaves the race due to pressure from anyone , or party leaders.
Posted by: Darrell | April 13, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
PUTIN IS ON THE PHONE? TELL THAT BRO TO WAIT A MINUTE, UNTIL I CAN STOP STUTTERING. WHAT? NUCLEAR MISSLES HEADED THIS WAY? TELL HIM I HAVE A PLAN FOR HOPE AND CHANGE, AND I’LL GET BACK TO HIM AS SOON AS I FIGURE IT OUT!
Posted by: okedokethen | April 13, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Bad economics or good economics times, poeple go to church and buy guns.
Posted by: Dave | April 13, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Obama, you are a smooth talker alright, but every idea you put forward, you have stolen from Hillary. The truth is you are an arrogant cheating liar, a con man! http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/index.html
You are most definatly unfit to be President!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!!
Posted by: Di | April 13, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Hill is unelectable, Di, you know that as every American knows that the Bosnian General Hillary us out ot it. No nedd for a day dreamer to occupy the Whit6e House. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Is it elitist to suggest that poverty leads to gun violence? Is it elitist to suggest that anger leads to angry forms of religion? Is it elitist to suggest that socio-economic marginalization leads to political apathy?
If it is elitism to speak the truth as you see it than call me an elitist too! Obama didn’t say that ONLY angry people believe in God or that ONLY angry people own guns. Obama is religious himself for crying out loud. Clinton is trying to twist this so that she can appear to be the poor man’s candidate. I don’t think her and Bill’s $109 million will make that a real possibility. But who knows…those who’ve been denied access to information/education do make bad decisions at times. (Is it elitist to say that too?)
Posted by: Jeremy | April 13, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
A very unpleasant vision motivate me to do this comment. After reading the latest remarks from Obama, I got chills down my spine. Started asking myself why he has said what he said. I came up with this conclusion, He was trying to win more votes. But I don’t think it is fair to used a rethoric about peoples desperation of lossing their jobs. Touching a nerve to insight anger, frustration, fear, and peoples weaknesses. It seems that Obama is playing a game with American people. Digging into their emotion to stir a ripple effect of Hate and to trigger a feeling of self pity and Hopelessnes. When analyzing the motive of this kind of talk, It looks like Obama was driving a wedge between the people and the Government Administration. He was trying to instill Hatered and inflamed feelings of resentment to which, will end into an infuse Revolt among the people. Obama was acting like an activist with this kind of behavior. I hope, He is not inspiring his followers and supporters to start a demonstration, a riot or a revolution to get in to the White House. I don’t think, He is what the media has portrayed him. We don’t really know him, and what he will do with our country, if he get to win the General Election. This is a very Scary Situation. Lord, Bless America and Protect us from a person who has a
twisted Plan against America.
Posted by: AveryConcernCitizen | April 13, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Memory lane. On front page of HuffPo.
Bill Clinton Flashback: “All These Economically Insecure White People…Are Scared To Death”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html
“The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death,” Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
Posted by: kravitz | April 13, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Check out real Middle, small town Americans, McCain and Hillary and Bill call them lairs who have benefitted from the Clinton years and the McCain years in the Senate, no plants closed, all of you had money and lots of tax cuts, no down sizing, no outsourcing, yes we promised at election time to revived your middle America communities and we did, we brought you Wal-Mart and we had you train people from other country and when those from other countries left, they sent your jobs, your factories with them, plus Clinton had a surplus for you stare at, anyone who say there bitter is lying, anyone who says the frustrated, is lying anyone who had held to their faith through the hard decades is lying, or held to guns, they are all lairs, this is what Hillary Bill and McCain and the Republicans are telling Middle and Small town America to believe and if you say otherwise, your lying.
We say Obama is an elitists and is condescending, you’ve been told what to think, that’s the conclusion and the solution you’re to parrot, what’s this fox recording doing playing;
Learn to love Hillary and Bill again and hate the Obama, well Polarizing is working, either way, Democrats lose, it’s called eating your own, so hate filled are we, that it’s either mine candidate, or I’ll kill yours, either way Democrats lose Republicans win, keep it up Democrats, keep on hating your selves, the real enemy is laughing at you all, all the way too the general.
I hate your candidate so much, I’d sit on my vote to see the real enemy win, that’ll teach you supporters a lesson
Posted by: Bruce | April 13, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Who gets bashed the most, GW Bush or Bill Clinton? Why are people such disrespectful bullies?
Clinton strived for fiscal responsibility and it worked with most of the 90′s being prosperous. My standard of living increased and I was able to buy a house at a good price.
What Bill Clinton did with Monica is his own personal business. The public has heard about it so many times it is only going in one ear and out the other. Old news!
A very good asset.
Posted by: MM | April 13, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I am awake and I am for Obama. Sometimes I am drunk and spew things favoring Hillary. Huge mistake! I apologize for that in advance. I am for Obama.
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Hillary, the Witch of the West!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 14, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
WestCoastMessenger,
Oh who cares who you support. Get away from us. You drunkard, WestCoastMessenger. Stupid idiot posts incoherent messages about who he does or does not support. Did you realize how much this means to us? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!
Posted by: Jean | April 14, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Here we go again …
Obama’s words were “clumsy,” to be sure, but I find it curious that two of the Senate’s most affluent members would describe a former community organizer as elitist and out of touch. Sounds politically motivated to me—nothing more than tired old identity politics, yet another desperate attempt to distract us from the real issues of this campaign.
Let’s not be duped, folks. We need to move beyond the politics of division. We need a leader who has the vision, character, and ability to bring positive change to the White House and to our nation—change that neither Clinton nor McCain can deliver.
Posted by: Jim | April 14, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Look, everyrhing Obama and his emissaries have said is a fairly audacious lie that ignores the fact it was passed by HW, it’s defects were adressesd in the side agreements, and W just shitcanned the labor and environmental considerations. Fact is, Obama knows this for a fact, as do his press acolytes, but it doesn’t stop them from milling disinformation. If you think that’s OK, then admit he’s not the Guiding Light. What a stupendous crock and what morons for voters.
Look, if you’re too stupid or ill-informed to know what really happened about NAFTA, or if you are just obtuse in the way of Olbermann and Sirota in blind allegiance to Obama, just shut the hell up. Stop repeating drivel or stop lying outright. Take your pick. Stupid, mendacious. Try the real world..
Posted by: prospero | April 14, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
1. Regarding NAFTA, you should all research who “signed” it and who didn’t. NAFTA was initially signed as an agreement with Canada and Mexico in Dec. 1992 when Bush 1 was still in office. There was a great deal of opposition, but Bill Clinton made it a legislative priorty for 1993 and drove its passage in the Congress and Senate. So it would never have passed without Bill Clinton’s passionate support (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafta).
2. It is pretty clear that Obama did not use his words correctly. It is amazing to hear everyone slam him for a few awkward sentences and forget the fact that Hillary’s Bosnia comments were out and out lies (and don’t try to say they weren’t. They were not verbal missteps. She repeated them several times before she got caught). You be the judget: a politician who will lie and clearly will do anything she can to win, or one who misspoke.
3. It is not true to say she did not support Nafta. She highlighted it publicly as a proud moment in her husband’s administration until she ran for President that is.
4. And if you truly want someone who is most representative of America, how could you choose her over Obama? No one mentions this, buy Hillary grew up in an upper-middle class, white suburb of Chicago. She was raised by two parents. And her family income that last 6 years was $105 MM. Oh, and before that, she spent 8 years in the White House…not a single worry financially in the world. She has been with the silver spoon for the last 15 years of her life. She has never had to experience any adversity other than her husband sleeping around. Compare that to Obama…a Chicago city child, poor, and one parent. Which person is more personally inspiring? Which one actually had to deal with a great more deal of adversity? Which one do you think is really up to the challenge because they have already faced a harder challenge than any Presidency?
Obama in a cakewalk. If you want career politicians and political dynasties and entitlement, vote Clinton. If you want change, vote Obama.
Thank you
Posted by: Brad | April 14, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
A very unpleasant vision motivate me to do this comment. After reading the latest remarks from Obama, I got chills down my spine. Started asking myself why he has said what he said. I came up with this conclusion, He was trying to win more votes. But I don’t think it is fair to used a rethoric about peoples desperation of lossing their jobs. Touching a nerve to insight anger, frustration, fear, and peoples weaknesses. It seems that Obama is playing a game with American people. Digging into their emotion to stir a ripple effect of Hate and to trigger a feeling of self pity and Hopelessnes. When analyzing the motive of this kind of talk, It looks like Obama was driving a wedge between the people and the Government Administration. He was trying to instill Hatered and inflamed feelings of resentment to which, will end into an infuse Revolt among the people. Obama was acting like an activist with this kind of behavior. I hope, He is not inspiring his followers and supporters to start a demonstration, a riot or a revolution to get in to the White House. I don’t think, He is what the media has portrayed him. We don’t really know him, and what he will do with our country, if he get to win the General Election. This is a very Scary Situation. Lord, Bless America and Protect us from a person who has a
twisted Plan against America.
Posted by: AveryConcernCitizen | April 14, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
James, the issue wasn’t NAFTA. It was unfettered trade with China.
It was just easier for Obama to blame NAFTA on Clinton, and no, she’s wasn’t whole-heartedly in favor of NAFTA.
FYI: People who genuinely oppose NAFTA don’t like Obama. All you have to do is read his book to find out why. Obama is doing a cakewalk, but supporting is not a cakewalk for anyone who actually takes the time to explore the issues.
Posted by: Meme | April 14, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Well said JackSmith!
Obama may have rehearsed his chapter and verse on CNN, he had his answers lined up too, but only because he had the opportunity to listen to Hillary first. The man is nothing but a liar and a cheat http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama_and_campaign_contributor_Antoin_%22Tony%22_Rezko
He is sponsored by crooks who are hoping for a pay-back time.
Hillary has the solutions and the experience…Obama is simply rhetoric, personified, wrapped up in a smile, who mixes with deceivers and bigotted believers, like Rezko and Wright.
Give in now Bwark! “Your chickens are coming home to roost”.
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!
Posted by: Di | April 14, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Obama is toast. He is losing ground every day. If Hillary is the nominee, she will have a chance at winning, but Obama has no chance. McCain will probably win. You Obama folks better prepare for defeat. It will hurt.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | April 14, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
I believe the thing that most Americans are missing is that for once A BLACK person is standing for elections and it would only be fair to say lets give him the seat and see what he can do.
I lived in the USA and I know that there are a lot of BITTER, FRUSTRATED people living in America because they are disenfranchised by what subsequent governments that have come into power.
It is not about America being stronger than every one but rather America recognizing that you have to treat others with respect too.
Slavery happened and only a fool would say to not talk about it is okay, you have to admit that what happened was demeaning and the most humiliating thing that could be done to a fellow human being.
Obama is MA enough to face and confront this things squarely, is that wrong? Only some sniveling dimwit would suggest what us being suggested that he is out of touch with the people he talked about.
It is so sad that there are hierarchies in everything we do in the world and it is not condescending to talk about these issues candidly.
When people lack ideas they talk about people and little things that do not matter. The clintons are wanting for ideas and Americans have to recognize that greed for power that glints in there eyes that is making them delirious and oblivious of the pitfall of electing a tired power hungry candidate like hillary rodham clinton as America’s President.
SHAME ON YOU AMERICANS!!!!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
Posted by: The Tanzanian | April 14, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
I would think by now you Obama supporters whould realize that you are supporting a martian who wants to take over the world with anti-american, anti-white, jew, asians etc and by the way they must be rich and educated. Boy is he fooling you.
Posted by: Decided | April 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
THIS JUST IN: “WE NEED MORE DUMB PEOPLE”
OBAMA IS FORMING THE BACKDROP FOR HIS NOVEMBER ASPIRATIONS: 5 YELLOW PEOPLE, 4 BROWN PEOPLE, 20 WHITE PEOPLE, 1 BLACK PERSON, 4 GREEN PEOPLE, 20 PURPLE PEOPLE AND 55 “MILLION” DUMB PEOPLE REQUIRED.
THE OBAMA COMMITTEE WILL MOVE PEOPLE AROUND FROM WHERE THEY WERE SITTING TO HAVE MORE “DUMB” PEOPLE IN THE FRONT ROW, SITTING DIRECTLY BEHIND OBAMA, TO CHEER HIM ON.
OBAMA, MICHELLE, PELOSI, DEAN, REID, KENNEDY, KERRY AND JEREMIAH WRIGHT ARE STUCK ON STUPID!
DON’T YOU JUST LOVE IT!
HILLARY 2008!
Posted by: 1ProudAmerican | April 14, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
pa blue collar: I don’t know why your saying god bless Obama. What would he need to be blessed for? What he needs to do is repent for going to an anti-american church, listening to a racists pastor and having close ties to crooks like Rezko, Farrakhan. Wright and Ayres. Ayres is the one who went underground because of a bomb threat. That’s the kind of friends Obama catered to.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
The Tanzanian: I don’t know where you got the idea that Obama is black. You don’t know your history too well. Obama is Mulatto. When a black man marries a white woman their children are called Mulatto’s. That name has been around for a long period of time. The blacks don’t us it anymore but it exists and it used to be on applications for employment back in time. The battleground states that Hillary won did not want Obama as president that’s why they didn’t give him the vote. Those white people were smart, the whites in MN and WI were dumb. White people should vote for their own like blacks vote for their own. But most of this generation of youth feel that Obama is in their league because he took drugs and booze like they do today.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
1ProudAmerican: You hit the nail on the head. I could not say it as good as you. Dean, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Wright think that if Obama wins the presidency there is something like favors for them. Good luck. Obama is for himself and no one else. He wants to make history as the first black president, but he forgets he is half white which makes him a Mulatto. I am voting for Hillary and hope she wins PA, IN, KY and Puerto Rico. That would be a good wake up call for him.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
AMAZING! When Ed Rendell states that some of the WHITE folks in his own state stil harbor racist feelings and that they WON’T vote for a black president because of race, or when BILLY BOY uses tems like some have previously mentioned “economically insecure WHITE MEN,” this is okay???!!!!! If you look at the entire context of the comments Obama made he was making a very valid point about how the “working class” folk feel shafted, and how his oratory on “change” just doesn’t resonate, and why! Man, Dems when this is over McCain will have a huge grin on his face. OBAMA folks will NOT vote for Hillary and vice versa. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY!
Posted by: agbi | April 14, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
@New Yorker
America did elect Al Gore, he got the popular vote. Bush stole the election in the same was as all third world nations, just like what is happening in Zimbabwe.
Posted by: SFer | April 14, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Posted by: Emily,
The point IS Emily, Bill was behind it too!!! And, Hillary helped to puch the idea. They could have both been against it but that has not been proven. Bill should have and could have done something about the bill……And Hillary should not have BALD faced lied about her involvement.
You aren’t so smart or bright yourself. In fact, you should practice your own analytical skills before you go bashing someone.
Just another ignorant Hillary supporter. You are the one that sounds bitter. Fruit loop.
Jason
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Look out in the days to come for the following comments and many others to hit the fan. This is what happens when people live in glass houses. If the press doesn’t pick this stuff up, the Obama campaign sure better. Get off your arse’s Axel and company wipe the floor with the hypocrisy of that campaign.
Posted by: Hiel | April 14, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
sorry, my mom is calling for dinner, then I have to go out looking for a job. I’ll start with McDonalds.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
wasn’t at rewarding often I got and we were punished that day. the boys I even to ramble
Posted by: girlamericaw | April 15, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Why would anyone take Bill words?He
wants back to the white house any way he
and Hillary can get it.Why he lies again
to the people is nothing new.Let talk
about NAFT and $800.000.00 they got from
we all know who COLUMBIA.And the other
person Mark let talk Bill.We could go
on and on.Everyone know Barack meeted no
harm to PA.Let’s spin this to sound like
he was looking down at the ones like
him.No it is you two guys with hundred
of millions and now looking down for
the favors some owe you what a shame.
Posted by: Sheila | April 19, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Thanks Sweetie…I mean O’Girl
Posted by: Uncle T | May 16, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am