Bill Clinton Says Hillary Tried to Join the Army

another story from the Clintons. They will never learn lessons from the previous exagerations. the Bosnia story is still on the news now they want to add another one. It is sad how this couple coupled of lies in trying to survive. Nice try!

I’m not suprised.
Hillary even tried to become President of the United States.

That training may have come in handy in Bosnia…….
GI JANE FOR PRESIDENT! WooHoo!

The real truth is that too much ‘sniper fire’ prevented Hilary enlisting. lol
Anyone who believes the Clintons are as nuts as they are liars! lol

Yes, Hillary also tried (?) to tell the truth…but ended up telling seome patheic lies.
And who is testifying that effort of Hillary: arguably THE BIGGEST PATHOLOGICAL LIER in our recent history.

How come every endorsement for Obama is a BIG endorsement? Clinton gets endorsements too and they’re never characterized as BIG. It’s like these polls that say 90% of this and that are for Obama when they only sampled a couple hundred people (from where they never say). Why anybody would want to get themselves into this political crap is beyond me and whatever you say, it goes for ALL the candidates.

And good news AGAIN.
The flow of superdelegates doesn’t seem to be slowing, as a former senator from Montana, John Melcher, says he’ll back Obama.

Well, that answers MY question. I just had a mildly critical comment of Obama removed. I guess Fox is the last “fair and balanced” outlet left.

HURRAY HILLARY! Like I have been saying…Hillary is a better man than Obama. PEENSYLVANIA & INDIANA owe Hillary Landslides despite the orchestrated back stabs from the weak Democratic Party. They have acted like mafia bosses trying to ruin this beautiful woman…maybe simply for being female. Remember how Obama started with corrupt money and corrupt friends…sooner or later he will be tied into a scandal….

If ol’ Bill said “I have white hair”, all the Obama folks would say he was lying. Even if they were looking straight at his head.
So, he might as well say whatever he wishes to, and not sweat it.
Nothing he can say will stop me from looking for that bridge entrance back to the ’90s, and the relative serenity that this nation enjoyed.
The same serenity that Obama by-passes when he talks of returning to the Reagan/Bush1 years. I was here then also, and I prefer to stop on the 90′s block. Although, Reagan/Bush1 surely beat the last 7.25 years.

No…no, this is true. Hillary Clinton tried to join the US Army after being rejected by the Marines, the French Foreign Legion, the U.N. Blue Helmets, the British Expeditionary Force, Erwin Rommel’s Afrika Corps, the Elks Club, the Knights of Columbus, the NYPD and LAPD — not to mention, the Girl Scouts of: America, Ethiopia, Scotland, Mali, Djibouti, Sri Lanka, Canada, the Ivory Coast, Egypt, the Ukraine and the UK. She also tried to enlist in the Swiss Guard to help protect the Pope, but was finally successful in becoming a Secret Service Agent and CIA Operative while hubby, Bill, was President. It’s all so very true, just ask her about it.

Ohno,
Yes, you are so convincing I must agree with you. It is an ENORMOUS lead. Obama’s lead is such that only a rabbit in a race with a turtle could squander such a lead. By the way, are you feeling like you and your gang deserve a nap right about now? You do and by all means, go for it. Hillary’s WAY too far back for you to worry. Please, feel free to cut some zzzzs.

This is another blatant lie by the Clintons. When Hillary moved to Arkansas she moved there to be with Bill so that Bill can start his political career.
Bill dodged the draft several times in order to persue this political career. So why would his girlfriend/wife try to join the Marines or the Army if he would not? This makes no sense at all and is a blantant contradiction to the Bill argument why he did not join the military.
In the 70′s, a married man would have to show a family picture in order to get elected. Nice conservative wife and a well rounded christian background (even for democrats), not a wife serving in the Military with the husband at home running for office. Bills political viability would have been directly linked to his wifes presense beside him.
Lies..Lies..Lies

“SLEEK WILLY” has done it again!!! The Clintons will say and do anything if they thought it would help Hillary to get the Democratic nomination. I bet you this story will make the round of the news and late night show circus, especially as it is incredibly exaggerated, self-serving and timely for the story teller’s manipulative aims. The Clintons never cease to amaze us with their political stunts and half-truths. Willy never bordered to tell, though, why he avoided military service, the ultimate patriotic act!

Even if it is a fib thats better than deserting the Air National Guard. that comes with a manditory 6 year obligaton
that better things to do doesnt get a waiver. No honerable discharges are handed out to those that just walk away.
thats it cut and dried just stopped attending drills, my twenty plus years service confirms to me you cant do that, its called desertion. Some come off your high horse about Hilary.

The military rejected Clinton because she couldn’t see? This is a punchline just waiting to be written by the late-night talk shows. I wonder if it’s true or if both Clintons have problems misremembering.

Ohno,
A couple of thoughts and questions?
Obama definitely has a lead, no doubt about it! Please tell me the exact formula by which he turns that lead into a win.
You folks are always talking about the “math” against HRC. Please be good enough to tell us the equation by which Obama wins. I have no doubt you know, and are just keeping it a secret, Right!
Right it seems that the only sure way would be for Hillary to “quit”, which she is not going to do!
All you Obama folks claim Obama won Texas caucuses. If he did we out here in Texas do not know that either. Maybe y’all actually mean “he has been projected” to win the Texas caucus votes by about 7.
You see Ohno, the caucus stuff “ain’t over yet”, will not be decided until June. JUNE, that is when the Texas Democratic convention convenes in Austin.

OK, now the Clintons are getting ridiculous!

And how is this newsworthy? Should we delve into the whoppers in Barack Obama’s “biography”?

WestCoastMessenger, sarcastically to Ohno, writes:
“It is an ENORMOUS lead. Obama’s lead is such that only a rabbit in a race with a turtle could squander such a lead.”

Hey Kevin,
First, despite Rather’s desperate search, there is no proof to your claims about Bush.
Second, McCain is the man running this time. He has 22 years of Navy service, 5.5 years as POW, and 25 years in the Senate. Compare that to your Hillary.

I am currently an Obama supporter who is old enough to vote but, I have to agree with you; these messages here are quite cruel. Whether you vote for Hillary or not, she is still a lady and should be treated as such.
Obama ’08

What branch of service did Obama serve in or did his spiritual advisor suggest he not serve?

Why is this news? Hillary Clinton has told this story many times before. When she was first lady of ARK., first lady of the U.S. and running for senate. Because it’s a slow news day, and Bill Clinton mentioned it again, it’s suddenly a story. Flashback: OLD NEWS from the 90′S.
I’m a liberal republican, I’m almost tempted to vote for Hillary Clinton just to get back at the MSM for all the bashing they do to the Clintons. If Barack Obama would have taken this kind of media abuse, he would not be standing today.
Nothing new here!

Barack Obama supporters:
Would any of you please list for me, Barack Obama’s foreign policy experience?

She’s trying to paint the picture that she is a military gal, without anything to back it up. Like being in the military is the only prerequisite to be president. For those of you that think so, have you ever thought about what America would be like if it wasn’t pro war, pro military? I imagine it would be a nice place to live…something we should try.

Hillary went to Bosnia. Obama has trouble rolling a gutter ball.

Bowling – So lots of people go to foreign countries does that make them qualified to be commcander in chief?

Hillary wants a candidate who can be “ready on Day One” and her campaign has proven that given her running behind to at best neck and neck with Obama that she was not ready for the campaign on Day One or Day 41.
Why didn’t she try to join the Coast Guard, Air Force or Navy? If she wanted to serve her country either of those would have worked. This is more Clinton BS.

Oh
The Clintons.
Flowers – I didn’t do it.
Broderick – not I.
Paula Jones – no way!
Kathleen Wiley – you kidding?
Lewinsk – never! Evidence? This is a vast right wing conspiracy after my husband, said Hillary.
There they go again!
At least this time, no CBS records can POSSIBLY exist about this incident.
And I doubt that there are any eye witnesses left. Bill may even swear he was there. What the heck!
Refined lying. The learning curve has been long.
Like they say, a good (Obama) act, deserves a clownish introduction!

Apparently, this site has a problem with Deutsch grammar in a comment.
Yet, has no problem with it being used by an Obama sopporter as an avitar.
Well….OK, guess that’s fair. Like this whole primary is fair!
Tie, minus one goes to Obama!

Senator Clinton lis about everything. If she did try to enlist in the military, it is just one more example that she has bigger gonads than Bill. These folks are liars and will do and say anything to keep Senator Obama from getting the nomination

And, I blew my whole argument when I put an o instead of a u in supporter.
I stand chastised!

Jenny, Hillary’s running, not Bill.

Jenny wrote:
Hannah, what is Hilarys experience, not counting close encounters with the press and girls bearing flowers
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You didn’t answer my question. Take all the time you need.

I tried to join the army but when the recruiter never showed up to pick me up I lost interest. I don’t support voting at all in a system that is less than what the constitution says it should be, but I tried should I be able to use this as a claim of me being good as president. Also anyone that uses “my child is important to me and I think (add candidate name here)will be good for my child” argument should remember people where saying that about BUSH too. Its weak. Don’t Vote 2008!

Does anyone on here, including the owner, know for a “fact”, that HRC did not try to enlist in the miltary.
I have absolutely no idea.
That may be the place to start. If someone can factually refute it then they should do so.
Speculation should be reserved for the “markets”.

Had Bill Clinton try to join military when he was young and when the nation needs him ……..?

Obama supporters continue to be the most mean-spirited people that I have ever heard. I just don’t believe you are democrats or you wouldn’t keep making such nasty comments about the Clintons. I mean it’s one thing to support a candidate, but quite another to slam the Clintons with such hateful and stupid rhetoric.

Obama has encounters of 3rd kind, Rezco, Louis Farrakhan and Rev Wright.

“People can talk and point fingers all they want. Talk is cheap and doesn’t reflect reality. The 90′s were some of the best times we have had in this country. I remember how depressed I was after Reagan and Bush thinking there were no good times a head for the country. When Clinton got in the White House he really turned things around. Things were great for everyone, rich, poor and middle class. All the talk in the world will not change that. I feel secure having Hillary in the White House and Bill’s being there is a huge plus. Bring back the good times, bring back the Clintons!!” This bears repeating. Salient post.

Hillary held sit ins at wesselly protesting the military. Bill was running for attorney general of arkansas at the time. Her friends when the NY Times investigated admitted she wasn’t trying to join the army for real. She was testing if they had a bias against feminism.
Hillary has never been asked if she will continue to use Gloria Steinhem as a surrogate after making fun of McCain as a POW.

what does this story have to do with the price of Healthcare?
Let me say right up front, I am a black woman, a supporter of Hillary Clinton.
I have resigned myself that the majority of my black brothers and sisters are going to continue to blindly support obama (through some misguided sense of a symbolic win-sort of like going for oj-to get back at the justice system-oj is guilty)
So to try and stop this I must appeal to my white brothers and sisters,especially if you are any of the citizens left to vote-to pick our nominee for president-I will pray you will vote for Hillary
Mr. Obama has been a member of a church for 20years that at it core believes
“If God is not for us (the black community) then he (god) is a murderer and we had better kill him”
“What we need is the distruction of whitness-which is the source of all misery in the world.”
These are quotes from James Cone-a collegue and fellow minister with Rev. wright.
(I guess obama is going to start with the bowling alley in the white house)
He said today one of the first things he was going to do is distroy the bowling alley-and put in a basketball court.-I know he laughed-and I know he was joking-in re; to his poor bowling skills-but It just made me think.-just how funny that would be.
Chris Matthews and the media are stacking the cards against Hillary clinton-(I do not know what the clintons did to Chris Matthews-but it must have been something pretty bad that he would go against-the ethics of his professio-claiming to report and be fair and impartial.Cause Chris Matthews is badly tainted.
Everyone knows obama is not good in debate with hillary-so what does msnbc do-Chris Matthews is there interviewing obama in front of a college audience giving him questions-that the answers will not really fully inform the voter.
We need to be able to see a potential president-under pressure answering the hard questions-why is obama not as good answering questions as he is giving a speech-ask George Bush.-In the debate with hillary-obama answering questions reminds me of george bush during the debates with al gore.
Obama does not know what he is doing
He and his handlers, axelrod, kerry, dean and co. are doing to voters what karl rove and bush did to the rural and evangelical voters.
I want a black president-but not in this crooked way.
I cannot see how anyone who has listened to-for 20years such teaching claim to be a uniter-and a healer of the race problem in this country.
and now I have a new fear for my country
in addition to:
war, poor economy, lack of healthcare for ALL, students in college being taken advantage of by predatory loan companies, and we are headed for more violence, and race riots.
his type of uniting is a false unity
because black people have followed blindly-and are expecting(although he has promised them nothing) something from him. and it is economics-and he will not be able to deliver on the economic front-Because it is hillarys plan.
I feel sorry for Hillary-because after losing to him-with the big wigs in dem party going against her, the media-she cannot win.
I feel sorry for her because-after losing in such a crooked way to obama-the dem big wigs are going to then turn around and ask her to help save him-from
mccain.
any of you who think the clintons are all washed up-wait until we hear how the dem. party will be going to them to ask for them to help against mccain.
i want a black man-but not him because
he is not smarter than hillary.
I just wish people would stop falling for the fluff- Obama is not ready to be president.

Obama join the military?? Are you crazy??? The biggest reason I’m voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee is McCain’s war service to this country.
Why the hell would I want to vote for someone who is only thinking of themselves??

Wonder if she had to take a class in contact application.

Are they being serious?

Jake Tapper reports on a claim made by Bill Clinton that his wife once tried to join the Army. Hillarys version is that she tried to join the Marines and was told to try the Army.
Hillary and Bill were both staunchly anti-Vietnam war, and the t…

Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive. You’d think they’d be gun shy about telling whoppers by now. How can they think that all these lies are somehow attractive. They constantly remind us that when it comes to character, their deficit is bigger then their campaign debts to small businesses who can’t afford to carry them.

Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive. You’d think they’d be gun shy about telling whoppers by now. How can they think that all these lies are somehow attractive. They constantly remind us that when it comes to character, their deficit is bigger then their campaign debts to small businesses who can’t afford to carry them.

From what I am reading here, I think people have already made up their minds. There is no need to be hateful or call names. The poster who said Obama is racist is probably not speaking for most people in this country. It appears that most are honerable people who have gotten past race and sexism and are looking at these two candidates for their positions and likability. No need for the hatred – we are ALL Americans and we either stand together behind the nominee or we hand the country over to the people who have tried to destroy this country. BTW – MOST Americans don’t serve in the military but that does not mean they don’t serve their country!

yes, obamanot
As a black woman, this is a story that has been kicking around in the black community-via black talk radio stations-and a topic that was referred to as
“yea, but we better not talk to much about that-”they might get the wrong idea”
“yea, and it is not even like that”
and to you obama supporters on this blog know this:
obama will not win the white house in nov. without Hillary Clinton’ supporters. and the dem. voters in florida and michigan.
If obama was the change-new type politician-running this new type above the fray campaign-he would be pulling for florida and michigan to have a vote.
he is the old deal-throuh and through wrapped in a smile and a suit.
but none of it will change the fact-Mr. obama is not ready to handle the job of president-and the way he will have won will comeback to haunt him
I hope pa, and indiana, wva, and all the other states left to vote-will send him a clear message-he is not entitled to be president just because he is black

MC – Somehow I dont’ think you really want an answer to your quesiton. I think you just want to vent! That’s fine. Vent!

jgaw – I don’t think any African American expects ANYTHING good because they are BLACK. I am not Black, but you must know this. How in the world would a Black man think he is entitled to the presidency? Based on what? We only have 1 Senator now and have had 3 since this country began to have a legislative branch. Surely you are not basing your conclusion on anything historic. So just what are you basing it on. I think, based on your argument, John McCain a White man is entitled to the job since for 43 presidents that is all we have had. I think you are very wrong on your analysis. obama is both Black and White and none of us have the right to dismiss half of his family!

Bulldog:
Hillary’s running! You could have fooled
me. If Hillary is the candidate why does she need this lecherous drunk
running interference for her?
Can’t she run on her own?

King…I read that story and i was horrified. Hilary badgered this little girl to the point that she did not know that Hilary was the defendant’s attorney. She put it out of her mind, she is now 27 years old and is afraid to face Hilary.I have 4 daughters and if Hilary would have done that to one of them I would be all over her as she is running for President. That speaks for itself.Shame on you Hilary! Sorry Hilary supporters but that was wrong!

jules,
my black brothers and sisters have been
are voting for obama in record number without vetting him-if you will remember-at first my community was saying Obama who?-and then-he isn’t black.-meaning he did not come up with the experience the majority of blacks his age did.-and from what we are told of his history he did not.
fast forward to now-black elected officials are being threatened with not voting them back in office-if they do not support obama (it does not matter that they have served their people well)
“Just go out there and vote obama”
black people in the community are being asked by other blacks-right off the bat after they say hello-they are asked “How about my man obama”-it is just presumed you support him-because he is black. and if you do not support him-you had better pretend you do.-because no matter-the clintons have been side by side trying to help advance and help catch up the black community-against all the set backs the american system has given then-they are mud now.
How do we account for the fact that out side his region-black people have never heard of him? if he was such a advocate for black people and helping advance black people-why was he unknown on the national scene?
Because it is now understood he gets the black vote-without any vetting from the black community-obama and his handlers gambled right in their presumption-he will have the black vote.
“Just because he is BLACK”
but because he has not been vetted-the things that are being suppressed in the mSM about his (just to spite the clintons) will come out in the GE.and MCcain will win.
It will be the biggest throw away of the black vote since our struggle to get the vote.
If my black brothers and sister really wanted to advance themselves they would bvote their true interest-and that is on Hillary and her promise of helping the economy.
This is not the time or the year for
the “Symbolic Give it to the Black Guy”

From the very beginning of this primary campaign, Hillary Clinton has been vilified, trashed, crucified, and slandered by the biased, sexist, and chauvinistic media & press. The worst offenders are CNN and FOX….both male and female pundits speel venom to adnauseam. Right now, Senator Clinton is the best hope this country has to turn the economy around and to change our image in the world. Too many (men) in the White House have sold this country down the river and sacrificed our precious sons and daughters. It is time we have an intelligent, savvy, skilled,and visionary woman to lead our nation. We will never have this opportunity again. It is just an outrage that the votes in Florida and Michigan will not be counted—-what a pathetic sham. Barack Obama cannot hold a candle to Hillary Clinton. If Hillary does not get the nomination, myself along with millions of other Americans will be heartsick for another four years. For those voting for Obama, be careful what you ask for….please think twice (and once again) before pressing that button in the voting booth. P.S. If Colin Powell had run for election at any given time, I would have voted for him in a heartbeat. Barack Obama is not in the same league as Colin Powell. Thank you for listening. GO HILLARY! There are millions of us out here supporting you contrary to what the media would have you believe. FIGHT ON–WE ARE PROUD OF YOU!

Did Bill Clinton mention that he avoided joining the military and that was an issue in the primaries for him. He was able to defend himself, beat the odds & win the general election. At that time it was a very serious issue and it could have cost him the general election.

MC,
I’m pretty sure that ‘economy, stupid’ phrase was a Bill Clinton quote.

@Carol
“P.S. If Colin Powell had run for election at any given time, I would have voted for him in a heartbeat. Barack Obama is not in the same league as Colin Powell. Thank you for listening.”
Why compare Obama to Powell? Because both happen to be black men? O, I love it when the Hillary women expose their racism so naively. Do you LOOK like Ferraro as well?

ReaganFan writes:
“If Hillary is the candidate why does she need this lecherous drunk
running interference for her?
Can’t she run on her own?”

I’m beyond being surprised at anything that comes from the Clintons these days.

For all you Clinton backers hoping for the 1990′s to come back…forget it. That was then and this is now. The internet and computers made the 1990s what it was, not Bill Clinton. Everyone would have been singing a different tune if the Dot.com bubble burst during his final turn and 9/11 happened. Hillary keeps trying to keep you guys in the dark. You follow blindly living in la la land of the past. Hillary is not the leader this country needs. The Clintons are cruel to members of their own party. Bill freaked out on Sunday at a party that was for a bunch of superdelegates. Still wallowing about the Richardson endorsement which sparked the whole nonsense. Many superdelegates were shocked they said at his display. Later he had someone call the superdelegates to appologize on his behalf. Luckily the openminded and hopeful see through her and that now includes Sen. John Melchior a superdelegate today!!! Thanks John.

Oh, now I understand,
the democratic obama supporters, only want to beat Hillary.
I thought we were trying to get a dem in the white house for the next four years.
Obama will not win the white house with out the support of the Hillary supporters.
but I see now-you all didn’t want the white house (like we did) you just wanted to beat hillary.
no president obama without the supporters or hillary clinton.

@jgaw
“It is to bad the poor and working class black people have not received that message-because on the black talk radio stations-are telling them and pumping them up telling them what he is going to do for them when he gets into office.”
I think Obama won’t disappoint them, for these people are very much part of his program; just not the only or the most important part. Of course Obama is passionately committed to raise the living standards of poor and working class families in our country, just as he is committed to ban the effects from racism, sexism or homophobia from our society. Poor black folks will profit from that, no doubt, and so will poor white folks. And he’s not raising their standards of living only out of social concern, or out of his deep ‘be your brother’s and sister’s keeper’ conviction, but also out of an economic concern. No economy can thrive when many millions of people have hardly an extra dollar to spend on our goods.

I don’t get why either candidates supporters would say that they would rather vote for McCain just because their candidate didn’t get the nomination. I would never do that. That would mean I’m focusing too much on the candidates personal lives rather than the issues that affect us as americans. Hillary and Obama agree on over 90% of the issues, its the few differences that they have that seperate them. Just because we hold grudges over the candidates personal lives, why should we hold it against the issues that they support, which in essense are the issues that WE all support.

jgaw writes:
“I thought we were trying to get a dem in the white house for the next four years.”

A poster asked about HRC supporters attitudes.
I won’t vote for McCain, I will resign from the Democratic party, become an independent, and then sit home and watch.
My reason, I feel that the far-left Dean/Axelrod/MoveOn/DailyKos element is a mirror image of the far-right Republican party, I find both despicable.
I would never join in voting with either of those groups, anymore than I would any other hate group.
They do not represent my idea of Democracy or the Democratic party principles that I have known for my 46 voting years. They want “old folks” out. I am one of those, and I will leave saddened about the party, but comfortable about my integrity.

GM fom MN,
I agree with you. I will vote for whomever the nominee is. Their policies are the same. I don’t agree with the republican policies and wouldn’t even consider voting for McCain. If McCain is in the white house this war will never end. Our military is stretched so thin that the only alternative will be a draft.

Posted by: jgaw,
What difference does it make. If the situation were reversed, would there not be calls even DEMANDS that Obama step down? So, why is she so special?
Why is there always an excuse for everything Hillary? Oh, the boys are picking on her,; Oh they are trying to bully her; Oh he is out spending her; Oh she is being attacked; Oh….oh…oh….oh….oh;
I am sick to death of this double standard. When he takes hard punches or the media bites his a** people say tough! People say he needs to “BULK up”…be a man they say…..But, when the situation is reversed, it is poor Hillary this and that – a thousand excuses. Well, why can’t she bulk up and why can’t she step aside.
Lord knows, if the situation were reversed, Bill Clinton wouldn’t be saying “chill out” – ole red faced bas****…And many of you wouldn’t be encouraging him to stay in the race as you are HER.
Well, Hillary is not special and she is NOT owed the nomination, I don’t care what she or ANY of you think….Why don’t you people spare us the double talk and double standards.
Jessie has a message for you people:
“keep hope alive”

MC:
“They do not represent my idea of Democracy or the Democratic party principles that I have known for my 46 voting years.”
I agree with your post. Did you know that the RNC sanctioned the same 2 states, MI and FL, for moving their primary dates up — cutting the delegations by half.
This is the same penalty specified in DNC rules, but the committee, upped the penalty the furthest that it could legally —100%. A very severe sanction, wouldn’t you agree?

jgaw-
Yes. If hillary can achieve the nomination she will achieve my vote. While I do not like her all that much, I will not forfeit this chance to bring about a different course for America. Although I find her conceited and manipulative, to have four more years of this current course, could prove disasterous for future generations.
If we allow McCain to continue with this war, it will take years to end. Currently we are paying known insurgents to be Armed guards…both shiites and sunnis. Iran’s involvement in the Basra incident is fishy. And when the war first started Bin Laden reportedly said, “for every dollar we spend, the U.S. spends $10,000.” Bin Laden and anyone whom is loyal to him will try and keep us over there as long as they can. The beat the soviets the exact same way….by dragging out a war which destroyed their economy.
This war is draining our resources, stretching out our military, allowing Al Queada to gain a firm safehave in Pakistan, and is weakening our Dollar…. As the dollar becomes weaker the price of oil goes up, due to other countries being able to bid just as high or even higher than us for it.

jgaw- I agree that Hillary would definately have an inside view from the point of the presidency, however I still think that she will have to learn on the go as well (she would have a curve as you said).
I agree that with MI and FL. I blame Dean and the DNC. After this election is over the democratic party needs to resolve some of these major issues so all sides feel that neither candidate was given a unfair advantage.
All contests should become primaries, we should not drag this process out as long. I feel it should end by the end of May. States should vote in blocks (i feel) 25% at a time, and so that each block has roughly the same number of delegates up for grabs. Although I understand the point for superdelegates I find having them being as just as much of a problem as they are meant to be a solution.

gm mn 9:27 post
I have read your thoughts about the DNC
and I agree-I feel confident there will be changes-if not we may see a really historic event a well established independent party-one that will give the dem and rep. a run for their money.

I would certainly agree Colleen.
The same thing happened in ’82, I think re Iowa and NH.
Pelosi was the Dnc chair then, and she eventually seated them unpunished.
Also, Dean front-loaded the primary season this year to favor Obama. Which is very surprising, considering that most of us had never heard of Obama except his Senate candidacy.
One would not think Dean/MoveOn were thinking ahead that far re Obama, yet they were.
I have suggested on here that people go to the book website: “Burning at the Grassroots. com”. “Inside the Dean Machine” by Dana Dunnan. They selected Obama in 2004 as their candidate, US Senate was just a “stop-over.
That site has details from the book and otherwise that read like a script for Obama’s campaign. Explore it.
The book was written following Dean’s loss. They took that gameplan, tweaked it, got Obama and here we are. It is amazing how everything from press, to internet, to youth, to Malcolm X “traps” for Kerry, controlling caucus states, winning Black vote in SC, etc.
Spells out tactics, and explains why Dean front-loaded primary as he did.

Hillary: Grunt or Jarhead?

Bill Clinton says Hillary tried to join the Army from Political Punch notes that President Bill Clinton tried to buoy up his wife’s military cred by claiming that she tried to join the Army – but was turned away due

The Clintons can’t keep their lies straight. She lied about trying to join the Marines and now Bill gets the lie mixed up and says it was the Army. We, Americans, know that both Clintons loathe the Military!

MC is a paid Hillary employee. Such people want Hillary to stay in the race for ever so that they can make a buck or two for months to come.

MC,
Very interesting re: Obama really chosen back in 2004, with the Senate as only a stop-over. I think you are right that he was chosen years ago. when he came to the Senate, Daschle was out he was delivered the cream of the crop of Daschle’s staff. Very nice for the young senator. I believe he was fingered even before then though. Go back to Chicago!!! Harvard Law School. I feel like I am watching a movie plot.

For a woman whose life has ONLY been about politics and power, Hillary does some pretty stupid things. Next to Obama and McCain she looks like the amateur in this game.
After making bogus of serious events in Bosnia, a story that military folks didn’t particularly appreciate, we get THIS silly story. I’m not even saying that this again is another Hillary lie, but the idea that this story would do well is so completely stupid. Military people hate her for playing games with such serious and deliberate choices in life as joining the US Army.
Didn’t the Clintons learn anything from their White House years except to lay a sound foundation for making BIG money in their future lives?
No way the US Army would want this woman for President. She will not be recruited. NEVER.

Kantor
Forsooth gentle fellow. Hillary has achieved great things, single handedly in many instances. Many of these Great Accomplishments, you you will never know.
The Army did recruit Hillary. Hillary went on many special ops.
We are all safer because Hillary …. and GWB made the decision to defend OUR country when they were youngsters.And we all owe the greatest debt of gratitude to these two.

I find it so sad-from 10pm until now
not one of the issues that face the american people-and over the next 4years
has been discussed.
I love reading all the comments about a candidates views of how they will solve the ills of this country.
but this bile is just a downright waste of time.
pick an issues; healthcare,the economy,student loan mess, the hight price of gas-any issue, and talk about what your candidate is saying they will do to solve it.

Maybe you could write Brooks Jackson at Factcheck.org. By the time he is done checking the facts, Senator Clinton will have joined the Marines. Which would be pretty remarkable after having worked for George McGovern.
I’m not going to pretend that I was for that war – but I do care about the people who went – kids who didn’t have a chance to go to Wellesley or Yale died in that war – a lot of them before their 21st birthday. I agree with the people who said this was a worse lie than Bosnia.

I won’t vote for a woman who enabled her rapist husband so they could climb the political ladder. In fact, not only did she enable him, she assisted him.
I don’t care what plans her staff comes up with for solving our every problem…it will take more tax money and in the end that never works better than we can do for ourselves….IF we’re willing to stand on our own two feet.
She’s a crook, she’s lied and cheated for years. She was fired from the Watergate committee for this and that wasn’t the first and hardly the last. Anyone who votes for her is just asking for more of the same.
Personally, I think she’s nuts. Any normal person would never try to pull these stunts….running through sniper fire…how insane to tell this whopper to an international audience. Something is really wrong with her.

Hillary is one big LIE. She sat on the board of walmart and said nothing bad about their anti worker practices.
She helped pass nafta. In 2004 to a business group said on balance nafta has been good for america and new york.
Hillary in October on npr in new hampshire was against counting the election in michigan saying it wouldn’t count and it didn’t matter if she kept her name on the ballot.
What are wrong with the voters of this country?
Can’t they see that Hillary Clinton is a serial liar.
Do they like being lied to. What is this a monarchy and we are all peasants.
Hillary was for the invasion of iraq. She is on tape on march 6, 2003 being for the invasion. At no time did she talk about inspections.
For years after the war Hillary was for it as she thought it would be good politically to try the thatcher role.
Hillary’s whole candidacy is a lie.
35 years of experience. She had no security clearence in the white house, she didn’t get daily security breifings or attend nsa meetings.
Hillary didn’t even know when her campaign was going broke. Her campaign manager told her you are broke and need to loan 5 million. Hillary is aloof. She picks loyalty over competence. She isn’t a manager. She never managed anything. Her balance sheet for her campaign is a nightmare.
Hillary is a serial liar. American peole must like being lied to and feeling like peasants to the great monarchy.

Seriously, I wonder what went on in her mind? What did she hope to accomplish being in the military? Did she intend to pull strings inside and get more support? Questions, questions, questions.

What strikes me most about the Clinton campaign is that so much of it is based on claims that can’t be substantiated by objective 3rd parties. The few that were substantiated by 3rd parties contradict what Clinton claims. That’s what makes this latest announcement by her husband so suspect and in my opinion irrelevant.

Dan Quail’s service in the reserves was criticized, as was George W. Bush’s service in the National Guard. Democrats claim that both should have served on active duty. Bill Clinton’s card burning was overlooked, “that was a long time ago”. Now we are expected to believe that Hillary would have served if she could have. Double standard is bad enough, lying about it is even worse. I’m no great fan of Juan McCain but if military service is a factor, he is the only veteran in the bunch. McCain tried to enlist and he can prove it.

I note that Bill did not specifically state which army she or they tried to join. Perhaps she tried to join the NVs or perhaps the Red Chinese Army. The good news is that, if Hillary had not made this inevitable run for the presidency, Bubba may have been able to continue to live the lie! As it is, it will be much harder for the “bony-fingered one” to resume creating a fictional legacy after the ball is over.

Just when you think things can’t get much worse in this campaign. I think it would be best if the Dems would just quit campaigning and depend on the sense of the American people to make a decision since it seems neither Dem candidate has the sense God gave a pissant anymore. They are acting like two five year olds on the first day of kindergarten and Bill Clinton has lost all touch with realty since the campaign started getting rough. They are making the GOP very, very happy. If the Dems lose again in 2008 it will be their own fault this time, no one elses.

Those of you who doubt that learning to wear contact lenses obviously didn’t have to try in the 1960s and 1970s. None of my family’s very upscale doctors wanted my parents to allow me to get what were then HARD contact lenses because the docs had all tried unsuccessfully, each of them on more than one occasion. Some of them even felt contact lenses could damage the eyes.
Eventually, I was allowed and, after a lot of trying, breaking more than one lens and a good deal of frustration, I was able to wear them, but I was much younger than the docs.

So Hillary tried to join the Military. Yeah right.

Let’s see, during the dreaded Vietnam War, Little Lib Hilly volunteered to serve in the Army and/or Marines? She has said that she loves combat, and her interest in serving even in Vietnam confirms that. No wonder she voted as she did to OK the administration’s war lust.
Also, Obama was approximately fifteen years old when the Vietnam War ended.

bill clinton is lying.
there was NO “BODY ARMOR” in those days.
health care was NOT an issue.

Both Bill’s and Hillary’s stories beg one glaring omission; we are at war at the time of the alleged enlistment attempts. The Army or the Marine Corps would have enlisted a lawyer immediately, regardless of her visual ability. She would have then went through a short officer indoctrination course, and then would have been assigned to a stateside position as a legal officer, freeing up a man who could see to go war in the jungles of Vietnam.

I joined the service in 1970, and at that time there were enlisties as old as 28 in my company at boot camp. Three of my wifes female best friends went into the service in 1971, one in the navy, two in the Air Force.
Personally, my glasses were slight thiner than coke bottles and correctable to an acceptable level that the service hod no problem letting me in.
This story is just another Clinton fantesy for Hillary supporters. I’m surprised she hasn’t brought out her collection of war medal’s, Navy cross, Bronze star, purple hearts and the like.

Perhaps the other co-participants in the Clinton’s anti-American antiwar group convinced them to join the U.S. Army as spies for the enemy. Unfortunately for Bill, he had already burned his draft card in London.

Well, is anyone here surprised? The Clintons, lying. My vision was 20/600, and I was accepted into the Army as an M.P. And I had a heart value defect. Yes, it’s true. I knew many people who were as blind as bats without their glasses or contacts, but their vision was correctable to an acceptable level and there we all were, in, what was called at that time, the most effective form of birth control, the military issued glasses. They were as ugly as sin, I’ll never forget basic training in those things. But this kind of disproves her claim.
Thank God, though, that she did not get in. I am sure this was another ploy with an covert attempt to gain something for her future political career, not serve her country. She and the card-burner deserve one another, but this country does not deserve them. Save us all!
This woman will stop at nothing at this point, her tactics are well-known in most circles. This claim takes the cake though.
Not a praying person, I now pray nightly that this woman doesn’t not get in office. God help us then. Mark my words.

I think Hillary belonged to the same super-secret military team that John Kerry was part of when he went on a “secret mission” to Cambodia for President Nixon at a time when Nixon was not even in office. If you believe that whopper you also believe Hillary grabbed an M16 and swept those snipers off the runway in Bosnia so all those cute little kids could give her flowers. What next? Obama will say he tried to join the army, but they refused him because the military that produced men like Colin Powell was too racist. Demos can’t even lie well.

GO HILLARY !!!!
WAS OBAMA Ever in the Military ?????
DID he even try – what about his wife?
Obama will not be elected – his judgment & backgroaund are far too questionable to be President of the UNITED States.

Bill and Hillary Clinton have told so many stories, for so many years, they believe that grass roots folks are dumb enough to buy into their stories of greatness. When is a lie, no longer a lie? I have it – When the lie is a “Clinton”. Right now, somewhere, someone is going over Hillary Clinton’s past interviews, public records, phone logs, etc. and the lies are going to flow like water. We will then be told that Hillary must have been under the stress of the Campaign Trail. What would be the motive for a U.S. Senator and Past First Lady, to lie? Why would a Clinton Lie? Da!

I am a combat Veteran with 16 years in the service. I am getting ready to return to Iraq soon for my third OIF/OEF deployment and my sixth deployment overall. I am disgusted by Senator Clinton’s claims as they dishonor all those who have served in our military forces. If Senator Clinton is elected I will be unable to serve under her leadership as it is inconceivable that I or any other service member would, could, or should serve a Commander in Chief that does not share our Core Values. Although I have disagreed with many decisions of current and past presidents, like any good Soldier I have saluted the flag and carried out my mission with Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless-Service, Honor, Integrity and Personal Courage! That said, I am simply unwilling to serve under the leadership (if we can call it that) of a person whos character is so morally deprived.

Hillary has shown nothing but contempt for the military her whole life. She only supports the troops when it is in her best interest.
Bill saying that Hillary wanted better armor for the troops.
Did she forget that it was BILL that starved the military for 8 years.
We went to war with the supplies HE got us.
At least Bush made an effort to correct that.

Hey Bill, the Salvation Army does not count as military experience! You were Commander and Chief once, right?

I agree with Randy (posted April 4, 2008) I am a female, and retired disabled US Navy vet. HillBilly cares less about all the long duty hours, separation from family, missed birthdays of our children, marital strains, and even the ultimate sacrifices our brave men and women are giving for our country. She is a disgraceful doggish troll, who questions our intelligence, when it only shows her lack of. She’s a liar and cannot not be trusted to furhter any cause that doesn’t benefit her. She lied again about a preganant woman dying from lack of health care. Every day it’s another one. Her rep is talking NAFTA in Columbia while she’s saying how much against it she is. HillBilly is trifling, putrid, wretched, and vile. I wouldn’t vote for her to replenish the toilet paper at greyhound bus stations.

Hey so nice to see so many totally round the bend US idiots commenting in here. It’s no wonder you’re the by far most despised people on the earth.

hillary clinton needs to quit the race i mean seriously shes an awful person you may as well call her america’s next top hitler!