Blogging the Pennsylvania Primary
That’s it for tonight gang — check back tomorrow, as always, for the latest analysis in The Note…
11:03 pm ET: A lot of talk from Obama tonight reaching back 14 months, to his campaign launch. He’s come a long way since then — and he’s still the frontrunner tonight. But there’s just a hint that this race could be interesting again yet….
10:57 pm ET: Obama’s tweak at Clinton: "We can be a party that thinks the only way to look tough on national security is to talk, and act, and vote like George Bush and John McCain. We can use fear as a tactic — the threat of terrorism to scare up votes."
10:51: How about those Abercrombie & Fitch shirts directly behind Obama? Can’t buy that kind of publicity! (Unless they did.) That’s three shirts in a row in prime location. Incredible.
10:48 pm ET: Obama quickly labels Clinton’s win a "victory." Seeks to be gracious. Then mentions that people thought he’d be blown out. (Who are those people?)
10:47 pm ET: Obama says he married up — would that the end of the Bush administration mean the end of that joke…
10:42 pm ET: Jason and others — I do know the situation in Florida and Michigan, of course. I’m just positing the Clinton argument, not endorsing the idea of counting them in the popular vote — obviously, including Florida and Michigan is tossing an orange and a mitten in with the apples. Just in the sense of actual votes, though, the numbers are the numbers.
10:26 pm ET: A potential watershed moment: With Pennsylvania results, Clinton just overtook Obama in the overall popular vote — if you include Florida and Michigan. That is a very big if, particularly when it comes to Michigan, but this is a major moment in the argument Clinton is making to the superdelegates. And if there were any question about whether Clinton will hang on to the end, that should answer it.
It is now, with 67% of PA precincts reporting, Clinton: 14,547,729; Obama: 14,516,766.
Dig at Obama — question isn’t whether "we can," but whether "we will."
10:23 pm ET: "The tide is turning," Clinton says. Watch for currents among those swimming superdelegates.
10:21 pm ET: Mentioning her opponent gets scattered boos — and of course, the shout-out for the Website — need to refill those coffers.
10:17 pm ET: This is in-charge Clinton we’re hearing from tonight. A measured tone — not overly triumphant, like she knows this race is not even close to over. "We are in many ways all on this journey together," she said.
10:15 pm ET: No more Bruce — it’s Tom Petty — "won’t back down" — in Clinton’s intro tonight. And Bill is behind her very, very briefly.
9:48 pm ET: We’re hearing that Sen. Clinton is about 15 minutes away. I’d look for her to be gracious in victory — but rather sharp in the lessons she’s drawing from this. It’s been a while since she had a chance for a straight-ahead victory speech — she’ll relish it, rightly.
9:42 pm ET: From ABC’s Eloise Harper, traveling with the Clinton campaign: "Lots of smiling happy staffers wandering around. Huge rousing cheer when CNN which was blaring in the room – announced for Clinton."
That’s going to be the photo of the night, surely.
9:36 pm ET: From a Republican friend: "I notice that self-ID’d crossover Republican vote is way down in PA (only 4%). By comparison, OH & TX both had 9%, which is pretty typical â- if not low — for every primary until PA."
Wonder what Republicans did tonight?
9:20 pm ET: If you want to see the show first-hand — travel to Indiana. That’s going to be the next showdown, no doubt.
9:09 pm ET: It will depend on the definition of "close" — and remember we won’t get Philly numbers until late. Early returns are really good for her — and every point is that much doubt she can place in the minds of the super-Ds.
8:55 PM ET: Clearly Clinton lives on for another day — or at least another two weeks, I should say. As attention turns to the margin, I wonder to what extent the media will be able to communicate any sense of a split decision — or a less-than-clear decision. Sen. Clinton wins — she gets the big speech and the big photo in the papers. If she only wins by five — how does that play? Not the day one story — but very possibly the story on day two, three, four, and five.
8:52 pm ET: ABC PROJECTS THAT PENNSYLVANIA WILL GO FOR CLINTON.
8:41 pm ET: Don’t forget to stay up to date with the Real Time Results on ABCNEWS.com.
8:24 pm ET: I wouldn’t expect to see significant results until the 9 pm hour — and the most densely populated part of the state, the Philadelphia area, will probably be the last to come in.
ABC’s Russell Goldman just got off the phone with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s office in Pennsylvania: "No major problems reported."
8:17 pm ET: Kevin — many smart people are puzzling over the exit polls, indeed. Much of it does not compute. Internally, at the Clinton and Obama campaigns, nobody I’ve been in touch with has been remotely optimistic. So the short answer is, we don’t know what will happen. But as I noted, if it’s close, that could be the big story.
8:14 pm ET: Indeed no network calls at 8 pm poll closing time. It’s a long time before we know the margin, naturally, but the longer this night goes, the more difficult it’s going to be for Sen. Clinton to declare a resounding victory. An interesting side story tonight will be who speaks first — with Sen. Obama in transit at the moment, it’s likely to be Clinton who gets first crack — unusual position for the victor to be in.
7:58 pm ET: Jerome — yes, they always move on, but the one who expects to win typically spends a few more hours on the ground — to thank supporters and for a victory party. Sen. Clinton will be in Philadelphia tonight. Sen. Obama will be in Indiana. What does that say about what they expect?
7:55 pm ET: Hope everyone is settling in for an interesting evening — it doesn’t look like ABC or the other networks will be able to call this one at poll closing time.
Quick exercise in myth-busting: The Obama campaign DID try to win in Pennsylvania. And the Clinton campaign DOES need to win convincingly.
7:14 pm ET: From ABC’s Sunlen Miller, covering the Obama campaign: "Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod and Communications Director, Robert Gibbs just came out of the Philadelphia Sheraton wearing "Stop the Drama, Vote Obama" t-shirts. The t-shirts were purchased off a street vendor, and were written in large blue and black letters."
"Obama is currently en route to the Philadelphia airport and will fly to Evansville, Indiana for a rally with John Mellencamp. Obama is wheels down in Indiana at 9:45 EST. The rally starts at 10:30 EST."
I do find it interesting that he is doing the Clinton maneuver of skipping ahead to the next state as (expected) bad news flows in in the last-voting state.
6:55 pm ET: The general word in political circles, it I may sum up: Don’t believe the exit polls. Everybody’s being cautious at the moment, best I can tell. Of course, there’s still an hour left of voting — and many, many hours to spin.
6:22 pm ET: It does appear that Clinton is paying more of a price for the negative turn than Obama. In PA, according to the preliminary numbers, 67 percent say Clinton attacked Obama unfairly, up from 52 percent in all previous primaries. Only 49 percent think Obama unfairly attacked Clinton (up from 38 percent). This feeds the argument of both candidates being diminished by this race.
6:08 pm ET: Lori asks below about the Great Divide — which is well reflected in the comments below. Will it heal? My sense is — it will and it won’t. That is to say, most Democrats will still vote Democratic, and most Clinton supporters will wind up supporting Obama, as would most Obama supporters eventually support Clinton. BUT I also think that every passing day weakens whoever the Democratic nominee will be; the charges and accusations being tossed about do have a corrosive cumulative impact. There are more reasons every day for Democrats (and Republicans and independents) to find reasons not to like Obama and Clinton. And John McCain is particularly well-positioned to pick up independents.
So yes, I think the Democrats are past the point where it can be reasonably argued that an extended campaign is good for the party’s November prospects.
6:02 pm ET: With the preliminary exit poll numbers out, a few points that strike me off the bat. First of – people made up their minds early. Per ABC polling director Gary Langer, "nearly eight in 10 Pennsylvania voters made up their minds at least a week ago, and six in 10 decided on their candidate more than a month ago â- a higher number of early deciders than the norm in Democratic primaries to date." That suggests that all of these little stories we’ve obsessed over in recent days may not have mattered — for better, worse, or indifferent.
Democrats are sick of the tone of this campaign — with two-thirds of voters blaming Clinton more than Obama for the negative turn.
And watch for this to be THE story coming out of the evening, if it’s close: More than half of Democratic voters in Pennsylvania (54 percent) expect Obama to be the nominee, REGARDLESS of what happens in the Keystone State. Of that group, roughly eight in 10 voted for Obama; one would assume this includes people who would have been with Obama even without his momentum. But what if it’s more than that? If the inevitability storyline is sticking, is there bounty in that for Obama? Enough to bring him a couple points in PA?
5:10 pm ET: A word on Bill Clinton — another election day where he’s dominating the news, with him saying that the Obama campaign played the "race card" against him, and then denying that he said it. Truly remarkable — it’s hard to argue that he’s been a net-positive for the Clinton campaign at this point. Do you think his actions have cost her votes?
Rick Klein here from ABC’s The Note. I’ll be live-blogging tonight as the returns roll in in Pennsylvania, with the latest from the exit polls and our ABC reporters in the field.
First — a word on the expectations game. Of course, both sides try to downplay what needs to be accomplished, and dueling memos speak to that this afternoon.
From the Obama campaign: "The bottom line is that if Senator Clinton is going to make meaningful inroads in this race for delegates, she will need a huge margin in Pennsylvania. Tonightâs outcome is unlikely to change the dynamic of this lengthy primary."
From the Clinton campaign: "After the Obama campaignâs ‘go-for-broke’ Pennsylvania strategy, after their avalanche of negative ads, negative mailers and negative attacks against Sen. Clinton, after their record-breaking spending in the state, a fundamental question must be asked: Why shouldn’t Sen. OBAMA win?"
That’s a fair question from Camp Clinton — and my colleague Jake Tapper blogs on that very subject this afternoon. Nowhere is it written that Obama cannot win Pennsylvania, and he’s certainly spent enough money there to signal a desire to win. The other argument from the Clinton campaign is also correct — neither candidate can win without superdelegates, and the fact is that superdelegates could end the race (and could have done so weeks ago) if they were either completely comfortable with Obama, or completely convinced that he will be the nominee. That hasn’t happened, for whatever reason.
But we’re not at a stage in the campaign where all wins are created equal. Clinton trails by 145 delegates, with only 10 contests left, and she will NOT make up that gap via pledged delegates, even under the most optimistic scenarios for her campaign. That means what she needs to do is more difficult than what Obama needs to do: She needs to give superdelegates serious pause about Obama if she has any hope of turning a critical mass in her direction. The way to do that tonight is with a resounding victory that reinforces his demographic weaknesses, particularly with white, working-class voters.
This is not fair to Sen. Clinton in a critical sense: To repeat, the bar IS higher for her tonight. But that’s what happens when your opponent wins the early rounds. That makes this evening like the RPI in college football: Running up the score matters.
What constitutes a convincing victory? Conventional wisdowm says double digits. 15-plus and things look much different tomorrow. Less than five (or an Obama victory) and there’s more pressure on Clinton to bow out. It’s the range of 6-10 that gets fun. In the end, it doesn’t matter what I say or you say — only what the superdelegates perceive.
What do you think? What does Sen. Clinton need to achieve tonight?

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The whole thing is this .No matter how weak Obama is as a general election candidate, the rationalle will be this.
OBAMA! OBAMA!!! OBAMA NO MATTER WHAT!!!
OBAMA ! OBAMA !!!
There is your argument.
Posted by: tomdavie | April 22, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Right on, Tom. “We are the change that we seek.” Or some such blather.
“When a voter asks you about Obama’s position on an issue, turn the conversation to your own story of how you came into the movement.”
Posted by: commonsensenj | April 22, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
I know Obama has the nomination sewn up yet I still hold out hope for my girl Hillary. Her whole “kitchen sink” strategy has really turned many people off but knee capping your opponent is legal and fair in politics.
If he can’t stand the heat I suggest he get out of the
kitchen. The Big Dawg and Hill Rod are gonna celebtrate tonight’s victory!
GO HILLARY!!!!
Posted by: Taylor Marsh | April 22, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
All she needs to do is win, and this will be another big state that Obama cannot carry and will not carry in the GE, so who want to play the numbers game they can the fact is to hold the electorial college you need those big states and he has not done that so far.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Obama cannot ‘Close the Deal’ because he’s a fake, phony and fraud…Obama supporters are knee-jerk frenzied fringe left-wing lunatic airamerica extremist radical moveon.org sychophants
Posted by: Jacob Markham | April 22, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Clinton trails by 18 delegates when ALL the votes are counted as certified by ALL the Secretaries of State.
Only 18 delegates. Chances are that after tonights win, Clinton will be winning the popular vote, the delegate count, and the electoral college count.
Again that’a when all the certified results from ALL the Secretaries of State are respected by the Democratic party and the main stream media.
If you don’t count MI and Fl don’t bother covering the Nov general election because the result has already been determined by the DNC, a win for the Republicans.
Posted by: s.b. | April 22, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I am an ardent Hillary supporter. Never flinching from the junk thrown by Obama and his followers. Hillary needs to win tonight, preferably by double digits, which can still happen. Is it is less than 10 she will continue but it will get harder. If it is under 5% I would even support her bowing out.
I can’t imagine anyone pretending the the Obama campaign hasn’t played ever dirty trick in the book including denial and misdirection. I admit that Hillary has headed in the worng direction but overall she is stonger and a better candidate for the GE. I truly believe she is the only candidate still in the race that can defeat teh Repubs. Sorry guys. I am just being honest… now go ahead and jump all over me.. I am waiting…..
Posted by: Chipo | April 22, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Hillery is the most qualified republican in the race.
Posted by: Jim | April 22, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I love how Hillary asks “Why can’t Obama finish her off”. How about she asks “Why can’t I come back”. She blew a more than 20 point lead in PA, and now is going to have to settle for something like 6 or 7 points. She will need at least a 3/4 majority from the remaining Super Delegates to have a chance. That’s just not possible, unless Obama finds another way stumble. Also, my concern is if Hillary pulls that off, how many Obama supporters are going to feel she stole the nomination. That I feel makes her unelectable. How in the world could she repair the damage done, within two months of the general election. A Hillary win = McCain win. I think people need to look at the numbers. I don’t like saying numbers mean everything, but at this stage of the campaign, it’s a foregone conclusion.
Posted by: No Republican in 08 | April 22, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
It is a near mathematical impossibility for Clinton to win the Democratic nomination on the merits of the system -pledged delegates and most likely the popular vote. The only way she can win (her campaign is asking this) is for the superdelegates to overturn the will of millions of people that have already voted – many of whom are the base of the Democratic party. Obama may not be your personal first choice for the Democratic nomination, but a sure choice to elect McCain is to override the election process with
superdelegates on behalf of Clinton. What the Clinton campaign is asking of the Democratic Leaders is to betray the American trust in their party and beliefs.
Posted by: Paige | April 22, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Obama campaign has run one of hell of a dirty campaign. Yet, Axelrod and Obama are the winners at the spin.
Obama is dirty from his left wing anti-American supporters to his hate filled church.
I cannot logically understand who would vote for him. Yet, there are many misguided individuals who refuse to see the truth. supporters who cannot cry foul, and say they did not know. You knew and voted for him anyway. Shame on you!
NO TO OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN/HATE MONGER FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | April 22, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Obama campaign has run one of hell of a dirty campaign. Yet, Axelrod and Obama are the winners at the spin.
Obama is dirty from his left wing anti-American supporters to his hate filled church.
I cannot logically understand who would vote for him. Yet, there are many misguided individuals who refuse to see the truth. supporters who cannot cry foul, and say they did not know. You knew and voted for him anyway. Shame on you!
NO TO OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN/HATE MONGER FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | April 22, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Votes don’t matter! Delegates don’t matter! The only math that works is the Super Delegate math and the electability argument.
Barack Hussein Obama is seen by many as a closet muslim and his pastor is a racist.
Hillary is the only one who can beat McCain!
GO HILL!!
Posted by: Taylor Marsh | April 22, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
to: No Repubican in 08… try a 4 to 1 spending advantage and the media favoring your candidate time and time again. Try deceptive tactics used by BHO and his followers including intimidation. If you really don’t want McCain to win you should think long and hard about your blind support of a fatally flawed candidate.
Posted by: Chipo | April 22, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Paige – you are wrong. Hillary can win and she has a majority of the popular vote if you include FL and MI (even giving him all of the non-committed votes in MI – which some would have undeniably gone to other candidates)…. Don’t buy into the lies any longer. This is your last chance to wake up and support the only candidate who can win in November.
Posted by: Chipo | April 22, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
The Democratic Party believes that every vote should count. OBAMA believes that only the votes for him should count
Posted by: Chipo | April 22, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
None of the current candidates can fix the problems this country faces in just 4 years. I don’t believe anyone can. So 4 years from now we will all be on these blogs again. If Clinton wins everyone will be saying we told you she was too divisive and couldn’t get anything done. If Obama wins everyone will be saying we told you he didn’t have enough experience. If McCain wins everyone will be saying you put another Republican in office what did you expect? Hindsight is always 20/20.
Posted by: bcpchrnn1 | April 22, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The Demo party is demonstrating its ability to shoot its feet, again. The sad matter of fact is that there is no way out, but stuck with a hypocrite, who has become untouchable either criticizing him or praising him, simply because of the media’s bias during the primaries. If you are his opponent, no matter what you say, it will be framed to be racist. Ask Joe Biden what happened to his campaign – being framed racist on the very same day Biden announced his presidency, for God’s sake, for praising this phony!
Obama will be compared, side by side, by a hero, whether or not you agree with it, with a list of events affiliated with Obama, including placing his hands between his legs while the national anthem is sung, his wife only became proud of America when he received votes, his companionship and friendship over 15 years with Rezko, his relationship with Ayers, his mentor of 20 years with Wright, his hypocrisy of McCain is better than Bush, his elitist association with the “far-left”, his clinging to guns and religion due to economic hardship, his blaming bitter voters being racist and anti-immigration, his……
He is not going to win in November because Obama is not just the list and comparison above, but because he is prepared and he is as much a gamble as Bush was.
Posted by: lazy to think | April 22, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Obama/Kerry ’08
The Elitist Ticket
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 22, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Lame, with Florida and Michigan not counted 9 more primary’s after today and you pundints can’t see how Hillary can win? How blind is that? Did you miss something? Whats more important votes or delegates? When the vote was all obama: He claimed the delegates should vote for him, if Clinton takes the popular vote, then what? This nomination will be decided by the Super Delegates. Period.
Posted by: Beau | April 22, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
chipo- while I appreciate your passion, I deal in facts and play by the rules. It is a shame Clinton was not as passionate about FL and MI when she signed the pledge not to campaign there and the votes would not count. It is disappointing when a candidate a person believes in does not do better.
Posted by: Paige | April 22, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
This is Hillary’s race to lose, she’s been leading the PA polls since Day 1.
So – I’d say let’s keep looking at the difference between a single and a double digit win for Hillary.
Double: she did well
15+ : she did very well
20+ : she did exceptionelly well
Single: she won, but didn’t do too well
5- : still a win, but a disappointing one
A win for Obama would be sensational, for totally unexpected. And it won’t happen.
Posted by: ken | April 22, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
on September 5, 2005 Barack Obama said about Hurricane Katrina
“There’s been much attention in the press about the fact that those who were left behind in New Orleans were disproportionately poor and African American. I’ve said publicly that I do not subscribe to the notion that the painfully slow response of FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security was racially-based. The ineptitude was colorblind.
But what must be said is that whoever was in charge of planning and preparing for the worst case scenario appeared to assume that every American has the capacity to load up their family in an SUV, fill it up with $100 worth of gasoline, stick some bottled water in the trunk, and use a credit card to check in to a hotel on safe ground. I see no evidence of active malice, but I see a continuation of passive indifference on the part of our government towards the least of these.”
I support him not because I am swept up in anything. I support him because when face with a racially based question, he reframed the debate to include us all.
Posted by: Brian | April 22, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Plus, lets keep an eye on the male white voters!
Posted by: ken | April 22, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Obama has 20+ lead in NC any delagate gain Hillary will win she will lose in NC. She can’t close gaps in states like Obama does,NC will be a landslide.
Obama 08!
Posted by: merle7 | April 22, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
to Chipo: Why does he have a 4 to 1 spending advantage? Because more people are willing to pay money to support him. How is the money a valid excuse? Both candidates have been deceptive, and both are flawed. Obama has a hate baring pastor, and Hillary’s husband can’t seem to shut up. I’m looking at the numbers, and a candidate winning by the rules will fair much better against McCain than a candidate that has to change them (stealing pledge delegates) and having to do damage control after the fact.
Posted by: No Republican in 08 | April 22, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
For all of you that for some reason believe the only reason Hillary inc. (equals Bill, Hillary and daughter) are doing all this just so Hillary can be President you failed to do the math on the Clinton’s Tax return. This has nothing to do with being President, or being a true Democrat. It has to do with money, $$$$$$$$, lots and lots of money. You don’t make money being president, you make money with all the book deals and speaking engagements that come afterward…whether you win or loose. So for all you Hillary fans that think she is doing this for you and because she wants to be elected President…you had better think again..it’s about Hillary inc. and $110 million dollars in book deals and speaches. She doesn’t give a darn about destroying the Democrats’ changes of taking back the White House or you.
Posted by: How To make 110 Million Dollars | April 22, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Vote for Hillary or you are dumb.
Everybody know that Obama is tricking people
with his jedi mind trick and also race baiting.
Look at what he did to the Big Dawg.
Everybody knows the Big Dog was called before
America’s first blak president and now Obama
made him say that he was similiar to Jesse Jackson.
Bill didn’t mean to say it but Barack Husseing made
him do it.
I can not trust Barack Hussein Obama.
Can you?
GO HILL!!!!
Posted by: Taylor Marsh | April 22, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Paige, you are one of the few Obama supporters I have met or heard from who cares in the least about fact or playing by rules. Regardless of who wants votes to count or not, the fact of the matter and the rules are that all votes should count. It should not/Can Not be up to anyone in the DNC to determine that millions of voters should be disenfranchised ever, for any reason. Who gave anyone the right to tell Florida voters to vote on a specific day and who gave anyone the right to tell those same voters that their votes wouldnt count? If a vote was cast with teh intent of voting ofr a specific candidate and that vote was not manipulated then it should count. period, end of story. Don’t ever try to tell me to vote andhave me show up and then tell me it didn’t count.
If the DNC didn’t want to count the votes the ballots should not have been provided, the polling places should not have been staffed!
Posted by: Chipo | April 22, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
If Hillary wins, it proves again and again Obama can’t just win big states, and can’t win over white votes…
Without majority of white votes to support, how can he win GE over white McCain?
Posted by: True Truth | April 22, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
For all you Hillary fans that can’t add..please tell me when the last time your friend with a $110 million dollars stopped by your house for a BBQ and sat down and listened to you? Oh, you don’t have any friends with that much dough? Perhaps because you aren’t an elitest like Hillary inc. You don’t mass the much money kissing up to the little people, that comes from high rollers that are not in your league.
Posted by: 110 Million Dollars Isn't Elite | April 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
merle7,
Obama win NC only because of his black skin…It just proves again he’s playing his race card…
Posted by: True Truth | April 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Chipo- think it is important a Dem. get into office. In my first post, I referenced that Obama is not a lot of people’s choice for the nomination. FL and MI are a lost cause and I would have more respect for Hillary’s argument if she had protested from the beginning. I can’t say if Obama will win a General Election, but I can say Hillary will because her only path to the nomination at this point and time is via the superdelegates. Obama supporters are passionate and you combine their disenfranchisement with Hillary’s polarization with the Republicans and you have McCain as our next President.
Posted by: Paige | April 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Some in the media have wondered what would Obama’s supporters do if he is not the nominee? Yet, no one gives a rodent’s backside about what Clinton’s supporters will do if she isn’t the nominee? I’d say that’s a tad bit disingenuous. And, Obama’s name was on both the MI and FL ballots, but he opted to have his name removed. So any stink about this and how unfair, blah, blah, blah it was to poor Obama is a real crock. The Obama camp is full of muopic, dellusional whiners. They also give blind allegiance to someone that they really don’t know much about and then throw a hissy-fit when their idol is challenged with the hard questions. Hey folks, this is for the US Presidency, not American Idol.
Posted by: Terry | April 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
merle7
Obama would win NC only because of his black skin….It just proves again he is playing race card….
Posted by: True Truth | April 22, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
I want to know why my emails have been blocked? It seems to be because I am pro-Obama.
Posted by: Terresa | April 22, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
As a FL democratic voter, if my vote is not going to be counted, I will be voting for McCain. I hope every democrat in FL feels the same way.
It is payback time baby.
Posted by: Mike Mahooney | April 22, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I think the media like you keep fousing on every word he utters, which is absurd.
Enough already. Nothing he has said is outragious, nothing.
Posted by: s.b. | April 22, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I agree with Jacob Markham 100%.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Chipo- meant to say “Hillary won’t”. Also, if the ballots in FL and MI are like the ones in my state, you receive your ballot based on party, are voting on numerous issues and state races. That is why their polling places were staffed.
Posted by: Paige | April 22, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
The thing I have not heard anyone say is this! Can Hillary really get anything accomplished. The Republicans would fight her tooth and nail if she wanted a dime to fix a bridge in Minnesota. They would use every procedural trick in the book and nothing would get accomplished. Then 4 years later the Republicans would come back into power (because nothing was accomplished during her tenure), and be able to take the White House and Congress.
Posted by: Leon | April 22, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
The media continues to claim that Obama has an insurmountable lead in “pledged” delegates. But even Howard Dean now says that Florida and Michigan’s delegates will be seated at the convention. So, His lead isn’t 140 +, it’s actually about 70 delegates when you COUNT EVERY VOTE AND SEAT EVERY DELEGATE. Obama is trying to steal the nomination the way that George W. Bush stole the election in 2000 from Al Gore. And the media is buying into it.
Posted by: Drew Rowe | April 22, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
The media continues to claim that Obama has an insurmountable lead in “pledged” delegates. But even Howard Dean now says that Florida and Michigan’s delegates will be seated at the convention. So, His lead isn’t 140 +, it’s actually about 70 delegates when you COUNT EVERY VOTE AND SEAT EVERY DELEGATE. Obama is trying to steal the nomination the way that George W. Bush stole the election in 2000 from Al Gore. And the media is buying into it.
Posted by: Drew Rowe | April 22, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Time will tell, “is the Witch dead” or “the bitch is back”.
Posted by: who knows | April 22, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
I look at the Obama supporters as akin to Scientology fools. It’s a cult, and the people make fools of themselves.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Obama has already won the nomination. There is no way that Hillary can win. That’s the simplicity of this whole thing.
In all actuality, I’d wish she would continue to run her further in debt.
It’s going to come down to mean green for Hillary. Once she was on top with the biggest war chest, and now with being 10 mil in debt and donors maxed out, ultimately it will be the lack of funds that will end the Clinton campaign as she surely won’t use her own money.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
tomdavie
Isn’t it the opposite that you all keep chanting Hillary Hillary
ignoring every issue that someone states on here with some kind of “slanderous-take-your-eye-off-the-issues-and-clintons-huge-weaknesses-because-she-is-our-queen”
argument…continuing fighting and destroying the great year we had.
Hillary can’t close the deal with 15 years of relationships and system…and with Rendell and President Clinton tripling her presence in PA.
It’s like the three of them are running as one person.
Ridiculous.
What obama has accomplished against her enormous strongholds says an overwhelming victory for the American people.
Rmemeber even teh American revolution had it’s revolutionaries and it’s loyalists… guess which party you would be in.
Posted by: dl | April 22, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama lost his “magic” after Rev. Wright appeared. Then his rhetoric just didn’t match up to his past actions.
President McCain – get use to it.
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama has already won the nomination. There is no way that Hillary can win. That’s the simplicity of this whole thing.
In all actuality, I’d wish she would continue to run which would drop her further in debt.
It’s going to come down to mean green for Hillary. Once she was on top with the biggest war chest, and now with being 10 mil in debt and donors maxed out, ultimately it will be the lack of funds that will end the Clinton campaign as she surely won’t use her own money.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
The Clintons have so damaged their image and legacy that they must win in order to avoid being all but disgraced. Think of it, a young guy that >95% of Americans never even heard of 24 months ago is beating the hand-picked successor (and wife) of the last Democratic President who has his political machine behind her. Beating her on most every metric, including in elected delegates which is what probably should countthe most.
I think people, and even Democrats, are ready for a fresh, new team. Especially after what people are seeing of Bill and the other nasty campaign tactics, the Clintons have self-destroyed their legacy.
If that doesn’t say people have had enough of the Clintons
Posted by: Bob | April 22, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
I have voted for Obama..why because everyone has forgotten either the state of our country or who has assisted in putting us in this state…Hillary….. I am a Director of Human Resources for over 10,000 people….It has nothing to do with her being a women or the color of his skin…it’s their ability to do a job consistently for their employer (people).
Posted by: Family3 | April 22, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Dear God, PLEASE let Obama win the nomination.
Posted by: Republican Party | April 22, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
GO HILL!!!
JUST SAY NO TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!
HE IS A MUSLIM!
Posted by: Taylor Marsh | April 22, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Bill Clinton is absolutely RIGHT.
Anyone excusing Obama’s actions, aren’t paying attention.
I was right about Bush, and I’m right about Obama!
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801130004
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html
Obama admitted himself that he “regretted” his campaign pushed the race card..Bill’s RIGHT!!!!
Second, Obama’s camp called Bill racist when he referenced Jesse Jackson’s win in SC..
Um, if that’s making Obama the “black candidate” why did Obama’s ads use hip hop music in SC?
As a black writer put it:
If Obama didn’t want to be compared to Jesse Jackson, maybe he shouldn’t have put R&B in his SC advertisements, shouldn’t have sent black-only emissaries to the Black SC community, and should have put Wright, who was doing the rounds, on pause. The message in South Carolina put out by Obama’s campaign, whether the media wanted to ignore it or not, was “Vote for me I am Black.” To then come back and smash Bill Clinton for mentioning Jesse Jackson, that’s audacity; Axelrod made this clear through his surrogates, while he had Obama say that what the Clintons’ said was “unfortunate.”
Further, this is the most racist statement of the campaign, but was THIS called on, or called repugnant?
“New York State Senator Bill Perkins used quite explicit racial stereotyping in a speech aimed at discouraging his constituents from voting for Clinton by saying, Harlem “is not Bill Clinton’s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation.”
Does Bill Clinton own slaves? Cuz I fail to see the connection between him and a plantation?
You Obama supporters are blind as heck. Just like Bushbots.
Posted by: Destardi | April 22, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
BILL CLINTON IS AS SICK AS HIS WIFE.
This IMPEACHED EX-CON who was convicted of lying to a federal grand jury, obstruction of justice and sexual assault can hardly wait to get back into the White House and will do anything to get there. I believe he has images of a fresh crop of interns dancing in his head. He alone has brought more scandal to the Democratic party than anyone in history. And Hillary doesn’t give a damn if he gets a BJ as long as she can become president.
Posted by: rhbate | April 22, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
If you want Americans to have to pay reparations to blacks, then vote Obama.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Obama has clearly showed Clinton, who claims more experience, that will all the experience she has, it only has gotten her deeper in debt along with her likeability and trustworthiness down the toilet.
The more she continues, the more she continues to dwindle. She is ultimately her own enemy. However, when you have alot of pimps to do tricks for that you owe money to, you have to keep running.
10 million in debt??? After 1 year???
RUN HILLARY RUN!!!
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Lets face it, Hillary will win PA and this will go on till June 6th…Hillary will then be in a position to say that the Super Del’s have to support her, because she will have most of the popular votes. It will be a case of nice try Bwark but “your chickens are coming home to roost”
GO HILLARY
Posted by: Di | April 22, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
BILL CLINTON IS AS SICK AS HIS WIFE.
This IMPEACHED EX-CON who was convicted of lying to a federal grand jury, obstruction of justice and sexual assault can hardly wait to get back into the White House and will do anything to get there. I believe he has images of a fresh crop of interns dancing in his head. He alone has brought more scandal to the Democratic party than anyone in history. And Hillary doesn’t give a damn if he gets a BJ as long as she can become president.
Posted by: rhbate | Apr 22, 2008 5:39:08 PM
Sexual assault?
Liar!!!!
See post above.
At least he hasn’t decimated a person’s character as Obama has done.
Posted by: Destardi | April 22, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
To answer the question posed, she needs a solid win and even six points will keep her in. I’d like to see her leave because I do think this prolonged contest is hurting my party, but unless she wins by five or less points, I don’t see this ending. I think Obama is the best choice by far and I do think he will be our next president, but it’s a rough ugly slog.
Posted by: Marilyn | April 22, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
This nomination process is still alive and well. Obama has not won it. Both candidates need the superdelegates to get the required majority! Facts…that’s the fact.
Posted by: Two-cats | April 22, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Wow, hillary supporters are so desperate, it’s kind of sad.
Obama was against the war from the start. Obama’s health plan will make health care affordable, with no negative Mandate attached(how do you enforce a mandate? Don’t ask Hillary, she doesn’t plan to). Obama has serious plans for the economy and energy concerns. Hillary’s plan on Energy? Well we can try that stuff other people talk about… Obama-Everything on the table, let’s figure out the best way forward…Clean burning Coal, Nuclear Power, Wind, Solar, Ethanol…let’s find what works best for us and for the enviroment. Hillary is the one that lacks substance…she seems more substantive because she’s been in the game long enough to know how to word things so they sound confusing to everyday americans, who then think she has some deep policy behind it. That killed Kerry. That killed Gore. This “Florida and Michigan and Ohio are needed to win the whitehouse” is baloney. Obama can get to 270 with the west and Southeast, where he is popular. Both Hillary and Obama will win CA and NY and Illinois and so on, Obama fits the 50 state strategy that the DNC has been using since after the 2004 choke job.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
A vote for Biliary or Obama is a vote for Socialism. That means big government taxing you into bankruptcy, wasteful spending out of control, more corrupt politicians telling you what to value, taxing agencies literally “stealing” your hard-earned money to redistribute and “equalize” wealth, and more and more government intrusion into every aspect of your life. “Big Brother”… that’s Change alright ! Is that what you really had in mind for Amerca?
Posted by: JC | April 22, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama is now behind McCain in Massachusetts, which even McGovern carried. He loses Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania. He’s going to redraw the electoral college map, and it’s all going to be all Republican. I still continue to hope that the party leadership will decide not to jump off the cliff again by nominating someone who has less chance of winning that Mike Dukakis did.
Posted by: southcarolinademocrat | April 22, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama has clearly showed Clinton, who claims more experience, that will all the experience she has, it only has gotten her deeper in debt along with her likeability and trustworthiness down the toilet.
The more she continues, the more she continues to dwindle. She is ultimately her own enemy. However, when you have alot of pimps to do tricks for that you owe money to, you have to keep running.
10 million in debt??? After 1 year???
RUN HILLARY RUN!!!
Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 22, 2008 5:40:08 PM
Obama spent 8 million, and he still can’t win?
run back to Chicago obama!
Posted by: destardi | April 22, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I would not vote for Obama if he was the only one on the ballot,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
WOW! you hillary supporters are really loosing it hu. the hate mongering and racists comment that are being expressed are words I would expect to hear from a neo-con not a demo. When barack wins abd goes on to the general we will see how prevalent the bigotry in this county still is!!!!
Posted by: roberto, ca | April 22, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Taylor Marsh:
Obama is not a Muslim and only a racist and/or religious bigot would say so. And what’s wrong with Muslims? There are over 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, more than Catholics. Do you have your hood and robe on?
Posted by: rhbate | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
To NoRepublicans in 08 – Hillary has already shown that she’s the come back girl. Look at all of the Large States. She’s pretty much won them all and tonight she will show why she has become the come back girl. Even with all of the negative press that she receives and all of the positive press Obama receives he still hasn’t been able to close the deal, no matter how much money Oprah sends to Africa for all of those people to send over the internet and his excessive spending on the campaign. Out-spending Hillary by more than a 2 to 1 margin, he still hasn’t been able to close the deal. Hillary is still the only clear choice to lead this nation.
Hillary 08 “Yes We Will”
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Even the Clinton Sour Grape Groupies know that her campaign is over.
It’s going to be worse than when Elvis died when she concedes. Everybody crying and sh&*.
Then we’ll have to have a few days of mourning for the ole battlewagon.
Then………She’ll be backing Obama on the trail and stumping for him on his way to being the next POTUS.
That’s how it will be folks.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Obama is now behind McCain in Massachusetts, which even McGovern carried. He loses Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania. He’s going to redraw the electoral college map, and it’s all going to be all Republican. I still continue to hope that the party leadership will decide not to jump off the cliff again by nominating someone who has less chance of winning that Mike Dukakis did.
Posted by: southcarolinademocrat | Apr 22, 2008 5:42:27 PM
That is ultimately the issue.
Do we want to win the General Election, or give Precious the nomination even though he stand zero chance in November?
That’s why we have Superdelegates.
Posted by: Destardi | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Why is ABC so in Obama’s pocket? Do you think he will always support the great ABC company? I have always watched your program because you have seemed intelligent and fair. Was I wrong all these years? This is a very important election in our history so please !!!! just keep your own opinions and facial expressions and lack of respect towards Hillary to yourself and just report the facts fairly. I would never tell you how to vote so please give Americans the right to make up their own minds without your little clues. We are just as intelligent as you and care about the world as you do. You always talk about a person of the week … well take lessons from the people you report about yourselves. Are you watching and listening to your own reports? Or are you just talk ?
Posted by: sharris | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
I’ll give Hillary one advantage, when that phone rings at 3:00AM she can simply hand it to Bill saying, “It’s for you, Dear!”
Posted by: Mike | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Please let Hil”lie”ry win! Amerikkka is a great place for her. There are two parts to this. First of all, I cant wait till the GE and 11% of the population does not vote for her. Secondly, Ever notice the race of 99.9% of the deaths from 9/11 (white) Ever notice the race of 99.9% of the troops that dying in Juan Mccains 100 year war
(white). I as a brother am voting for juan. He will do all our work for us! Thanks for the gift Amerikkka! Juan 08!
Posted by: b black | April 22, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
The longer Hillary stays in, the more money Obama has to spend and that’s good. Stay in sista! Don’t let the man bully you.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
I am having serious concerns about Bill Clinton…his own ego won’t let him keep his mouth shut…how come he always does this on or near election days. I really am beginning to think that maybe he doesn’t want Hillary to win…possibly afraid (and correctly so) that she would make a better president than he did. Either that or he is seriously rusty when it comes to contemporary campaigning…
Posted by: Louise | April 22, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
rhbate, no I don’t think that he is a Muslim either…..I think that he might be the anti-christ.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Destardi, McCain is ahead in Massachusetts? That is excellent! I’ve heard of some polls where McCain beats Obama in NEW YORK!!!
Whoooo hoooo! Can’t wait till November.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
And Obama can spend another 8 million with the Grassroots Jugganaut he has.
Hillary’s broke and can’t get the level of donations he gets. Plus, those who lobby for her are tired of seeing their money go to a losing cause.
Remember, money follows winners, not losers.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
I voted today for Obama and I felt within myself I voted for the best candidate. (Period). I do not look at color or gender, I look at who I think I can trust and who will be totally honest with the American people and try to bring unity. I don’t believe Hillary is trustworthy, and God knows we all know she is not honest. She is a fake and I believe the people of this wonderful state and country will see right through her. Obama might be “inexperience” but he is giving Hillary the “experience” one a run for her money. Just look how hard Hillary has to fight to keep up with Obama. Obama should have been done a long time ago, and he is still here. So that just show me he learns fast at the this polictical stuff. Come on Pennsylvanians let us bring Obama home with a victory. I am tired of the Bushs and the Clintons, We need a new younger face in Washignton to represent us in the world. Period!
Posted by: Polly Fair minded Obama Supporter | April 22, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
JC, in case you’ve been under a rock the past 8 years, Bush has ran us into Recession. He moved people who at one time were well off in the lower middleclass lifestyles, because you need a triple digit income to be able to afford nice things anymore. 50,000 a year means you live paycheck to paycheck. The poverty line is practically at 30K(though they will still tell you it’s 12.5 or lower). Perhaps we need some Dems in office, to get this fixed…or maybe we should kick them all out of office.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
if anyone still thinks hillarys painted on smiled and all those handshakes are real or she means anything she says or she will fight for anyone in PA if elected, deserve her but NOT our country. She will never even remember PA exsists. I”m not a Obama supporter but at least he seems to really enjoy meeting people and really thinks he can change things in DC. Hillary never will, never has planned to. pelosi would never allow hillary to steal her thunder as the first woman image. They would be fighting over camera time. Hillarys experience years are in the areas we not need or want back in our White house.
Posted by: del | April 22, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Destardi, why are you so concerned if the big dawg gets a BJ? He hasn’t done anymore to the democratic party than Teddy Kennedy. Who was married, took a girl home from a party and killed her. This would be the same Teddy Kennedy that is such a strong supporter of Obama.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Let’s see how much Hillary can scrape up for her 10 million in debt.
The more she runs, the deeper in debt she goes.
However, SEND MONEY!! Donating to Hillary is like throwing money away.
Losing cause.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Not only will Obama be destroyed by November, the democrat party’s reputation will be destroyed when we find out how muchc it is tied to terrorists.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
How is being up by 20 points and seeing that drop to 5 account to a “comeback”?
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Cynicism is at its worse when on the verge of annihilation.
What’s after the kitchen sink? Hmmmmmm
Retirement
Obama the next POTUS
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Say no to socialism. Say no to Obama. That’s what he means by change. Taking all your choices away from you.
Don’t fall for it. Say no to the evil Obama.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
You are right on one thing-the bar is and has always been set sky high for Hillary. She will win by double digits and I expect high double digits, but some of you, particularly in the press and Obamanics, will denegrate whatever the win is, and jiggle and juggle the results to make it appear she lost. The people of Penn. know who is solidely the best candidate in this race, and will vote for her.
As Obama gets better known, and his thin resume and barely contained anger at anyone not throwing rose petals in his path(like George and Charles)turn off many people. I’ve been
watching with interest his growning arrogance, impatience, and his attitude
of entitlement in this race. I think the
American people are going to have a say
in this, regardless of what the press and his followers want.
Posted by: song123123 | April 22, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I can’t wait for the inauguration for Obama.
Great day in America and the world!!!
Cynics will have to move deeper underground.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Sharris this is for you a week ago when ABC almost crucified Obama where were youto ask them to be fair???
I personally used to enjoy ABC news because I thought they were fair but as of last week I look at Charlie and George S. in a whole new light.
Posted by: Polly Fair minded Obama Supporter | April 22, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
I voted for Obama. I wish I could vote for him 1,000 more times. Hillary Rove showed herself to be the DemoRepub she is.
Posted by: will landstrom | April 22, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Obama can be President….of the United Nations. That’s where he belongs. He loves the rest of the world, not the United States.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Chris Matthews was correct when he said Hillary wouldn’t be in this race if it weren’t for her filandering husband. Exactly what has she done? She boasts being better able to answer the phone at 3:00 AM. Why? Because her baby woke up at that time for feeding? She pretends to have all this “experience” but I don’t know where it comes from. Women are voting for her because she’s a woman. Men are voting for her because their wives tell them to.
I even thought at one time I would vote for her until I got to know her.
Obama has much more character and is far more honest than she.
She acts more like a Repub now. I’m sorry that some of you can’t see through her facade and choose a person who has more substance than she.
Posted by: jon sid | April 22, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Polly, you mean you look at them in an all new light. As in Obama supporters who turned fair.
Good to know.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
The difference between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters
Obama fan: I think Hillary is all show, no go.
Hillary fan: Obama muslim evil terroist will destroy our hussein America. Inexperinced terrorist. Muslim. Evil.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Obama avoids media in final days of PA
Posted: 04:44 PM ET
BLUE BELL, Pennsylvania (CNN) – It’s now been ten days since Democrat Barack Obama has made himself available for questions from his traveling press corps, and it appears as though that number could rise even higher.
Aides have said it’s unlikely he’ll hold an availability with reporters before Tuesday’s Pennsylvania primary, but that they “could always add one.” Given their track record over the past few days, however, that doesn’t sound promising.
Since the start of the weekend, the possibility of a press conference has been dangled in front of reporters twice—only to be snatched away at the last possible moment.
On Saturday, reporters were teased for the majority of the day with a possible evening avail, only to be told at the eleventh hour that it would not be happening. To make it up, staffers said they were aiming to put him in front of cameras on Sunday but that, too, did not happen.
And at a diner Thursday morning, a reporter slipped in a question about former President Jimmy Carter’s meeting with Hamas, but Obama responded by saying he just wanted to eat his waffle. Later that afternoon while taping an interview for “The Daily Show,” a reporter tried to ask Obama about a new Clinton ad and the Obama ad that came as a response. According to a pooled report, the White House hopeful asked the reporter if she was “supposed to be” asking a question then. He added that he would consider answering but that it would depend “on how well behaved you are.” In the end, he did not take the question.
Traveling press secretary Jen Psaki declined to comment on exactly why no time has been allotted for traveling press questions since a press conference in Indianapolis April 11. Obama did, however, make time Thursday for a few one on one interviews.
From: CNN Producer Chris Welch
Posted by: SM | April 22, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
To bad Obama won’t win in the GE,
he is so unelectable and his supporters have made sure that the Clinton supporters won’t vote for Obama almost a 1/3 have said they won’t vote for him
that they would rather vote for McCain.
So you can say yes we can all you want but when the GE happens it will be McCain.
And I am a life long democrat but I can’t vote for him.
Posted by: Melissa | April 22, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Why is everyone so afraid of Obama – what do they fear?
I think Jon Stewart expressed it best when he asked Obama directly if he intended “to enslave the entire white race!” and then went on to joke about after all of the change if we would still have gravity with us.
Come on already – this is a good guy with good intentions. No corruption in his record that anyone can point to …
Give him a break. He’s young, idealistic, refreshing and exceedingly bright and motivated. What more is there?
Posted by: birman_lover | April 22, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Given McCain’s name recognition, Senate tenure and very impressive military history, how is it that a man of such military esteem and tenure in the US Senate after 20+ years consistently misses and/or forgets pertinent details surrounding a war the he 100% supports? Ask yourself that.
Secondly, McCain isn’t supposed to have problems getting money from donors due to his high valor and self esteem, is he? Can anyone explain how someone can be in the Senate for 20 plus years and not have the connections to match a Senator with just 3 years in the same Senate? The answer is quite clear. Very few truly believe in MCain and his cause or that he will win against Obama.
For Bo Bo the Clown’s sake, the man needs a teleprompter to make a sandwich! He’s going to get blown out in the GE.
This will be one of the most easiest GE for a democrat in a long time.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I keep telling myself that if I repeat it often enough, Obama can be president. Hopefully the Ayers scandal will be buried by November.
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
JC,
So you think that the Republican way is the best way and that a vote for Hillary or Obama is a vote for socialism. Well the last votes for George W. has just about put our country in bankruptcy, the dollar today is of the lowest value against the euro as it has ever been in history. We don’t won’t anymore of these Republican Thugs running our country. Their pockets are getting deeper and fatter while the rest of America is struggling to make ends meet with many of them losing their homes, jobs and family members lsoing their lives fighting in a dead-end war.
I can’t believe that George W. Bush has not been impeaced. He has lied and lied and lied. The Pope didn’t even show up to a dinner in his honor because he said that a couple of hours with George W. Bush was enough to last a lifetime so he skipped the dinner in his honor and met with his Bishops instead.
A Vote For McCain is a vote for the same!
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
rick, such a great divide here. what do you think about the hil v bama supporters at eachother’s throats.
of course i was an edwards supporter, now i go back and forth listening to both sides of this coin and wondering.
will this divide heal when it comes time to do battle against mccain? what does your gut tell you rick? thanks
Posted by: lori | April 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
George S. was afraid James Carville would show up at his door to take care of another “Judas”…Bill made George S, he thinks he owes the Clintons.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Call me crazy, but I think if you talk about “overturning the will of the people” then you had better not even go by pledged delegates, but just take the popular vote – and INLUCDE FL (MI is tricky).
In fact, I think that that is what should decide this. Whoever wins the popular vote once you count FL.
As long as Clinton has a chance to win the popular vote she should stay in. Once she has no chance, she should step down.
Posted by: JA | April 22, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
She was up by 20 here in Pennsylvania and I think she needs to win by 15pts to really to start to put together an argument for the Super Delegates to overturn the pledged delegate totals. If she wins by 5%, it’s just not enough. 10 is enough to keep her in the race, but 5 is akin to a loss for her. She’ll pick up like 3 or 4 delegates when she needs 20 or 30.
Posted by: Steve | April 22, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
I will not vote for Obama in a general election.
Posted by: Chris | April 22, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
As a somewhat disinterested republican, i would like this pitiful battle to go on as long as possible. It is no longer about who will win, but rather who can inflict and take the most damage. The longer the democ-rats savege each other, the easier the republican campaign becomes.
This is all a side-show. The party insiders will decide this fight. Primary and caucus voters are wasting their time and their vote at this point.
So much for “Democracy”. The Democratic party’s system smacks of Oligarchy!
Hilary, Obama, whatever…
Posted by: Skip | April 22, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Obama proves he needs a teleprompter even for debates. No wonder he JUST CANCELLED the North Carolina debate AND all press gatherings. LOL. What a lightweight.
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
First of all let me state that my horse isn’t in this race, he’s trying to alert the world about global warming. Having said that, I have one question that has been bothering me for a year: What has Obama ever done to deserve being President other than open his big mouth? He has no experience in administration, he has no Senate track record other than naming Post Offices. He might make a good Veep (he could use the experience) but I’d like to see someone in there that has actually done something.
Posted by: Dave | April 22, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Well, so far we’ve heard from the Obama supporters that he can’t be expected to win because Pennsylavia’s demographics are Clinton’s “base”.
Unfortunately for the folks putting all their faith in Obama, Pennsylvania’s demographics are pretty much America’s demographics.
I agree with Jake Tapper. Obama — if he’s a winner — had better do more than make “inroads.”
In fact, if I were a Super Delegate who had already committed to Obama, I’d be praying the popular vote for Obama exceeds that for Clinton by 300,000 plus 25% of her number.
If all this first-time enthusiasm generated BY Obama has been PRO-Obama, then the 300,000 newly registered Democrats will be voting for him … right?
Plus, of course, the 25% of Democrats who won’t vote for Obama in the General Election.
I wonder why nobody in the media has been discussing THIS equation.
Posted by: mlwheeler | April 22, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
From a Forbes article, citing Real Clear Politics #s:
“Without Florida, Michigan, and the four states with estimated totals, Obama leads Clinton by 717,086 votes, or 2.6% of all votes cast. The difference drops to 204,227 votes, or 0.6% of the total, when factoring in those 6 states.
The expected record-high voter turnout in next week’s Pennsylvania primary could shrink Obama’s lead in the popular vote, or perhaps give it over to Clinton. “
Posted by: JA | April 22, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
The people will speak through their vote and the votes will be tallied up according to the prevailing rules.
The electoral college rules are not used in primaries and caucuses so I wish people would stop referring to it.
No rule bending allowed – this is a primary between two Democrats and a primary win is no indicator of how the States will vote in November.
Posted by: birman_lover | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
With all due respect to PA voters who are going for Hillary:
If you believe so strongly in her, why is she broke? Why arent you donating to her campaign? Obama supporters not only talk the talk but we put our MONEY where our MOUTH is.
Your unwillingness to commit financially exposes deep down what you think. You arent going to waste your money on a loser…but you are willing to waste valuable time flapping your gums, screaming ‘go girl!’. Puleeze.
Posted by: jackjack | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Frankly, I think there is a part of Bill Clinton that does not want Hillary to win. It seems like every time he opens his mouth he says something dumb. Could it be that our Bill is a old fashioned male who does not want to see his woman wearing the pants in the family? I am sick of them both.
Posted by: Bea | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Obama won’t win the hispanic vote and most of the Hillary supporters votes.
This will be an easy win for McCain. He’ll even win blue states.
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Obviously some of you are using the Republicans tactic “scare” them to believe Obama is muslim…because we Americans are so dumb and can not see what you are doing. I am not dumb, Obama did nto choose his name it was given to him, just like all ours. And like him I would not change my name because people get scared of it. GROW UP!!!!
Posted by: Polly Fair minded Obama Supporter | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
What’s up with the Sour Grape Sucking Whites?
Stop being so scared of a biracial man only hoping to change this country from the laughing stock of the industrialized world into the Super Power on all fronts that it once was.
Funny isn’t it? Funny that it’s taking a man of color to right the wrongs of White men who have been running America into the ground with your consent.
What morons.
That’s ok. Step aside and let a real man run this country with the backing of those who choose to save this country from implosion.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
One question I have for all of the Clinton supporters is why do you think that just because Clinton won Ohio do you think that Obama can’t in the GE? I don’t understand that logic. You think Obama is going to lose NY and CA too or that Clinon would lose Illinois? That argument doesn’t make sense. I think those battleground states are so anti Iraq war and the economy is so bad that McCain has a huge uphill struggle in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida and the others that I mentioned are going to vote Dem no matter what..
Posted by: Steve | April 22, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
drudge has exit results: clinton 52; obama 48.
rick: by the looks of the number of comments already, i fear your site may crash again.
Posted by: sam | April 22, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
With so much money spending and so many endorsements, Can someone in the right mind tell me why all the super-delegates have not give OB a green light? What is the main factor that holds them back ? Are they still looking for a nominee who CAN win the GE in November or Do they not have enough confidence in the current front-runner, namely OB?
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Cynics are getting angrier by the day. By the time Obama get’s inaugurated, they would have pulled all of their hair out by then.
Keep winning Obama while the cynics go ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!
We’re meltiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!
Posted by: Common Sense | April 22, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Educate yourselves BEFORE you vote:
Read: “Unlimited Access by Gary Aldrich” He was working at the White House when the Clinton machine arrived in the 90′s….It would be a real eye opener for you HRC fans. Read it, if you’re not scared of the truth….
God Bless America & God Bless our Troops.
Posted by: American Patriot | April 22, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Nat Turner +++++++++++++++Hey Nat news flash life does not circle around color, I just don’t like the man, his white or his black side,but mostly I don’t like his uppity side,and stupid side,{ sat in a church 20 and did not hear thing, had a man for mentor for 20 yrs and did not know what the man was like, lets his kids play and spend the night over at a terrorist house, voted NOT TO WITH DRAW THE TROOPS,,,,,,,,He can’t handle his friends, what makes you think the man can handle a country,,,,,cause he black, give me a break,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Why do Americans have the capacity to accommodate all the lies from our leaders? Bill Clinton, an impeached liar, Hillary Clinton confessed liar(Bosnia). We re-elect George W. Bush, with a large majority, knowing that he lied to the UN, the Brits and the American People. What about these liars that we like? Lake Hart
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | April 22, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Its too bad that Jon Stewart had to be the one who asked the million dollar question last night in a satirical program – I truly feel that most of the really bizarre anti-Obama arguments come from whites who are worried about reverse discrimination.
As someone who has also lived “bi-culturally” Obama is a sincere person who has learned from the problem of not being truly accepted and wants to do something about the poliarized climate we have today.
He’s decent and not at all the boogeyman. At least don’t constantly demonize him.
Posted by: Sara | April 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
The only reason Obama has any weakness to white blue collar workers is because Sen. Clinton has smeared him and used fear and disinformation to make people comfortable with predjudice and bigotry. The man gave up a job as a corporate lawyer to work on the streets and in poor neighborhoods. This guy didn’t take a job so he could file a lawsuit, he went to work for people. HRC made the campaign about who could produce the most negative ad. Not about experience or issues. Instead of raising the bar HRC appeals to the lowest common denominator. that is not who we need to lead this country.
Posted by: Louis | April 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
When did Obama supporters say it was Clintons base? He won Iowa(Clintons Base), Wisconsin(Clintons base), Kansas(Clintons base)Missouri… notice a trend? The expectation of him winning is unrealistic because he was down in polls by more then 20 percent just 3 weeks ago. Not 2 percent…20. Hillary has not closed that kind of gap in ANY primary, and in most(NH is the only state where the polls were wrong in Hill favor), Obama does better then he polls. If he keeps it under 10 it’s a good night, if he keeps it within 5, it’s over. If he wins, she better concede tonight, biggest upset since Iowa. If she wins by 10-15, not bad. 16-20, good night. 21+ we have a real race.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
If Obama is such a winner, why can’t he win? If Huckabee were still in the race, McCain would win every state. Obama is a loser for the Dems and hopefully the super delegates will understand that and do the right thing.
Posted by: whatsa_is_back | April 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I’m Republican and will be voting for Obama in the GE. McCain and Clinton are same old same old. If it’s McCain vs. Clinton, I hope and pray there is a third party.
Posted by: JustWantChange | April 22, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
I represent the male 18-25 voter, and I have yet decided who I would vote for between Obama and McCain, as I claim no party allegiance. However, if Clinton were to get the ticket, I can assure you I would vote McCain. Hillary and her husbands outright dishonesty disgust me. Furthermore, I don’t know anyone under the 25 who supports Hillary. There is no way she can carry the younger vote in this country.
Posted by: undecided 08 | April 22, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Oh, obamaisacon. Stop your whining.
OBAMA, the biracial, Rev Wright knowing, non lapel wearing, Wife with thesis papers that scare you, uppity, well spoken, highly educated, black panther muslim that only eats wheat and not white……or so you say.
WILL BE THE NEXT POTUS.
Whine all you want. It’s laughable at best.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I represent the male 18-25 voter, and I have yet decided who I would vote for between Obama and McCain, as I claim no party allegiance. However, if Clinton were to get the ticket, I can assure you I would vote McCain. Hillary and her husbands outright dishonesty disgust me. Furthermore, I don’t know anyone under the 25 who supports Hillary. There is no way she can carry the younger vote in this country.
Posted by: undecided 08 | April 22, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
BECAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR…Staggering Numbers
Keeping in mind that Hillary – in her own “two for the price of one” pronouncement – told the nation that she would be sharing the presidency with her husband, it would beg the imaginations of even her most fervent acolytes that the tsunami of scandals that inundated the Clinton tenure somehow escaped either the notice or personal involvement of Hillary herself.
To see the shocking Scandal Index of the Clinton years, as compiled by the liberal Progressive Review (http://prorev.com) is to appreciate the Clinton’s 24/7/365 belief that any progress in their leftist domestic and foreign affairs agenda could only be realized through the most nefarious activity – much of which fit neatly into the criminal category. Under the listing of “Records Set’” by the Clinton administration (read: co-presidency), Progressive Review cites the following, of which I will only list a sampling:
▪ Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates.
▪ Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation.
▪ Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify.
▪ Most number of witnesses to die suddenly.
▪ First president sued for sexual harassment.
▪ First president accused of rape.
▪ First president to be held in contempt of court.
▪ First president to be impeached for personal malfeasance.
▪ First first lady to come under criminal investigation.
▪ Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign-contribution case.
▪ Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions.
▪ Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas to date: one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners: 14.
▪ Number of Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5.
▪ Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine that were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47.
▪ Number of these convictions during Clinton’s presidency: 33.
▪ Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61.
▪ Number of congressional witnesses who pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122.
▪ Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15; acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6.
▪ Clinton machine crimes for which convictions were obtained: drug trafficking, 3; racketeering, extortion, bribery, 4; tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement, 2; fraud, 12; conspiracy, 5; fraudulent loans, illegal gifts, 1; illegal campaign contributions, 5; money laundering, 6; perjury, et al.
Posted by: THE SCANDAL QUEEN | April 22, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
@obamaisacon~
Do you realize that Inductive reasoning does not arrive at fact?
You’d get laughed out of a court of law with that tired Hannity’s America drivel.
Posted by: jackjack | April 22, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
It is so humorous to read these comments day after day and see the Democratic party shooting themselves in the foot and going down in flames. As if either candidate’s supporters can influence any readers on this website as most (I didn’t say all) of the posters are absurdly stubborn or hateful in their comments. It only serves to polarize the supporters even moreso. It’s been particularly amusing to read the Obamabot’s comments as they are the worst offenders. All I can say is congrats, the majority of you have managed to bring your party down and hand the election to McCain. You had every advantage and managed to blow it. Ha ha! Thank you and keep it up.
Posted by: Go Republicans | April 22, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Americans…REAL AMERICANS LIKE ME AND HILLARY
will never let a racist like Barack Hussein be President.
Keep drinking your Kool-Aid you Obamabots that
only the Big Dawg (Bill) and Hillary can win in the General Election!
GO HILL!!!!
Posted by: Taylor Marsh | April 22, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
JWC-You have a few options: Nader/Gonzales(Independent, Gonzales nearly became Mayor of SF in a runoff with Gavin Newsome, and is a Green), Cynthia McKinney is the likely GP nominee, Mike Gravel is looking at a Libertarian run.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
GE in November or Do they not have enough confidence +++++++++++++++++No green light cause he can’t win in the general election, just having the black vote, and the endorsements , will not win the election, and since over 37% of the Hilliary supporters, and 20% of the Independent voters say they will not vote for him, that is 57% of the democratic voters that he can not carry, that is a no win,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
After the debauchery in NH, why should we beLIEve the pollsters. STILL trying to influence the vote aren’t we big media!!! Yeesh, why bother voting if the results are already decided? I aaabsence of evidence. (like Oh, THE VOTES) Our elections could learn a thing or two from most 3rd world countries. They have a third of the money and yet STILL do a better job than us.
Posted by: Zdnet | April 22, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Lady Hillary will win by 10.
Posted by: Bill Oh Really | April 22, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Chris Matthews just had the audacity to ask Kiki if Hillary “was making Obama unelectable in the GE”!! No Chris, Moveonorg. and Obama are making Hillary unelectable in the GE. So there you sexist you know what!By the way, Tim Russert presented Obama with a 4 page Memo of RACIST TALKING POINTS put out by the Obama campaign at the debate right after SC. The Obama campaign is guilty of race baiting, and if you look at Obama’s church, we know how Obama thinks about us typical white people when he’s at church or drinking wine with the rich liberal left elites in San Fracisco! GO HILLARY!!
Posted by: calli | April 22, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
jackjack ————-I am not going to court going to vote, for Hilliary or McCain, never ever Obama,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I hope juan mccain wins for the following reasons.
People hate Amerikkka. The middle east is straight out targeting (white Amerikkka)
I as a black man am voting for juan because I know this country will get attacked again but as usual, it wont be in my neck of the woods.
If the world hates juan mccain, that is only a good thing for black america!
Posted by: b black | April 22, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
GO Hillary !!! Straight on home and bake some cookies go and be a supportive wife and standby your cheating big mouth husband who is, despite his many flaws, a great president, but you little missy will not be a great president, and want to know why???? because you are FAKE!!!!! you are a phony and not trustworthy. GO oBAMA !!!!!
Posted by: Obama Girl | April 22, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
White Americans who continue to support neocon policies are the laughing stock of planet earth. The only thing that other countries fear is your military, which basically equates you to a bully. (The same issues you have in your schools) Your currency is almost like the peso. Your jobs are being shipped to those you consider to be inferior, yet the opposite. You can’t travel abroad unless it’s to your MOTHERLAND (Great Britian), and you it’s so expensive, you can afford it. Your kids shoot each other in school. You pop pills for everything from breathing air, sleeping and having sex. You treat citizens of color as second hand citizens, yet you need them. The hypocritcal level of critical thinking is that of a neanderthal.
It’s funny that it’s going to take either a man of biracial descent to save your country from imploding on itself from war, economic doom and cultural genocide. What is an American anyway? Just a bully with a military? Where’s the culture? Oh, there is none.
Just as Rome, Spain, Great Britian and Russia imploded on power, the next is the United States of America if it continues down its path of wickedness.
No worries. Obama to the rescue.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Clinton: A Win is a Win!
Response: Yes, absolutely, and who has more state wins, more delegate wins, more popular vote wins.
Clinton: Why can’t Obama close the deal?
Response: The game is in the 8th inning, it’s not over until the bottom of the 9th and Clinton trails by an insurmountable number of runs. The question should be why Clinton is so far behind? What kind of logic says put your bet on the team that couldn’t possibly score enough runs to win the game legally and even is trying to steal runs from forfeited games (MI, Fl)? After the primaries are over, possibly after NC, the superdelegates will come in a close the game.
Posted by: vinny | April 22, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
There is no way she can carry the younger vote in this country.++++++++++++++++That is cause you judge some one older for acting like a young person,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
As an independant PA voter, I didn’t have a vote today but I have my opinions about the Dems.
I don’t like the way the Obama people called my house and asked if I would switch my party to Dem and vote for him (are you kidding me?!)
As for Hillary, I feel she really needs to tell me how different her administration would be from Bill’s. We don’t need a watered down version of him; in fact, he needs a muzzle.
Will her cabinet have people that did not work for Bill? Who would those people be?
I expect to vote in November but I hope the Dem and Rep by then can really show me something I want by then.
Posted by: Penna Indie | April 22, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Taylor shows what’s wrong with the Hillary campaign Their argument against Obama? He’s half black, went to a Church with over 10,000 members on the South Side of Chicago and has muslim roots…he must be evil. Please grow up. It’s why I have trouble talking politics with my Dad. These racists attacks are pitiful at best.
Posted by: Steven | April 22, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
hope juan mccain wins for the following reasons.
People hate Amerikkka. The middle east is straight out targeting (white Amerikkka)
I as a black man am voting for juan because I know this country will get attacked again but as usual, it wont be in my neck of the woods.
If the world hates juan mccain, that is only a good thing for black america!
so please elect him! it really would help the black cause! mccain 08!
Posted by: b black | April 22, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
@obamaisacon-
Im pointing out the lack of veracity in the things you are stringing together in some crippled quilt of pseudo truth.
Its full of holes..your argument is…thats fact.
Posted by: jackjack | April 22, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Barack is a phony….has not met the press in 12 days…….which times with questioning of his proposals and past acquaintances…(finally). Since people are now starting to see who Barack is (and don’t like it) the only other person left is Hillary (not that she is really their choice, just what is left over). With Hillary, the voters already know the lies, “untruths” and that the she comes with Billy Boy. Neither one can unite the people as all of their programs are unattainable financially. For Barack to state that he would not raise taxes for anyone making less than $200,000 (on the ABC debate, asked by Charlie Gibson) is just fraudulant. He cannot even pay for one tenth of his programs with an economic plan he stated! He is a buffoon, caught up in a whirlwind of good press, and absolutely not stating anything for over 15 months!
The press needs to look at themselves…they created a big portion of this mess the democrats are now in!
Posted by: Bob | April 22, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
My own personal opinion is that since the Obama surge, Hillary’s vote probably peaked a couple of days ago. I don’t think her recent ads will have helped her.
So given that, I expect Obama to keep PA close. Probably single digits for Clinton.
That leaves us in no mans land again BUT I know the Obama supporters don’t want to hear it, but regardless of the delegate count there are 2 big elephants in the room regarding him being the nominee.
1. He can’t win big states even with unlimited funds. Like it or not, he can’t win the general without them.
2. Florida & Michigan. No democrat (in the literal sense) can justify these votes being discounted. The argument is baseless and they must be counted.
Posted by: Mark | April 22, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
It’s funny that it’s going to take either a man of biracial descent to save your country from imploding on itself from war, ++++++++++++++++I can see you have done no research,,,,,,,,, he has done such a great job at Afgan, right,,,and he voted to KEEP THE TROOPS IN IRAQ, He lies at every turn, and does not pay attention to what is going on around him,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Clinton Sour Grape Groupies saying what they will and won’t allow with Obama being president. Oh, really?
let’s see a show of hands, please:
How many of you are willing to be so petulant, childish, petty, ignorant, self-defeating and foolish as to vote for John McCain and a literal THIRD BUSH TERM. Anyone?
Would you be OK with perpetual war, invading Iran, no global warming plan, the overturn of Roe v. Wade and an overwhelming, unassailable majority of right-wing ideologues like Scalia and Thomas on the Supreme Court, endless tax giveaways to oil companies and the super-rich, continued torture, eavesdropping the use of the our Constitution and Bill of Rights as neocon toilet paper? WOULD YOU?
A vote for McCain is a vote for ALL of these hideous policies. Think long and hard before voting for John W. McBush, my friends. The nation you may destroy out of spite and pettiness may ultimately be your own personal demise. Are you willing to cut off your whole arm to save 1 finger? Yea, right.
You know you’re just whining little brats. (smile) Snap out of it!
Oh yea, btw. Saudi Arabia, Dubai, China, Russia and Iran would love for McCain to be president, so this country can continue to be pimped out like it has been. Another “John” of a country coming here to acquire another American asset.
However, it won’t happen.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
She can win by stealing the pledged delegates with typical Clinton behind the scene threats, bribes and worthless shallow promises. Remember she said, “There is no such thing as a pledged delegate.”
She will lie at every opportunity – following Bills modus operandi that we the people are too stupid to see or understand when they lie to us.
They will accuse the media of bias against Hillary, but is it bias when the media points to video’s of speeches where Hillary says she was shot at by snipers? Is it media bias when Bill says that he never said that Obama played the race card, when we can hear the WHYY recorded comments showing clearly that he said what he said and that he is a liar?
Bill said after his second win to the White House, “Ya gotta do what you gotta do.” Translation – Lie, cheat, steal and treat the good people of this country as blind fools willing to follow them right back to the despicable Clinton era of the 90′s.
Best economic times? Because of Bill? Don’t forget the Republican controlled Congress … now there lies the reason for that success…
Bill was handed an improving economic picture by George I… Bill handed George II an economy on the verge of failure …
I hate what George II has done to this country but hate the Clintons even more… We need to move ahead not back…
I am a life long Republican.
I want to, for once, be able to choose between two candidates… both honorable and good. Not have to choose the lesser of two evils.
McCain V Obama – there is a good combination where debate and honor will prevail; a good set of choices for the US.
Hillary V McCain? No choice … McCain – honorable – Hillary a backstabbing, vicious, evil, lying threat to what makes The US a great country.
I pray that I will be able to cast my vote for either Obama or McCain and not be simply left to have to vote against evil.
Posted by: Bud | April 22, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
jackjack __________________So is Obama,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Oh, reminder to the Sour Grape Groupies.
Mommy Clinton will be stumping for Obama after conceding defeat.
Get ready to follow in her footsteps.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
John McCain, over Obama any day,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
I am utterly disappointed in America. It would be nice to FINALLY see people support Obama because of his dedication and determination as well as his persistance in standing up against a war.
Yet his character is being disected. False emails roam the internet incorrectly stating that his is a muslim. Many whites will not vote for him because they fear he will give reparations to decentdants of african slaves or even enslave whites.
It is argued that he does not have the experience needed to be the commander and cheif.
The problem with this country is that America is still very racially divided. It is no secret.
We’d rather give the nomination to a woman who’s husband was responsible for NAFTA. Someone who voted for the war and did not have the courage to do what was right. Experience or not, she has lied about landing in sniper fire, has brushed the Mark Penn scandal under the rug and continues to minipulate words and use fear tactics to gather votes.
Her campaign is bankrupt and in disaray. How can we expect her to balance the national budget.
Obama is not perfect, but he is a breath of fresh air. I pray that he wins Pennsylvania and the following primaries.
It’s to bad that so many american’s feel that if it is not white, than it is not right.
Obama Supporter
Posted by: Lesley | April 22, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
I think the MAINSCREAM MEDIA are such failed losers that the latest news biggie about the CNN employee tied up in knots with the sex toy in his boots, fits them to a TEE. The MAINSCREAMS hate a landslide and will do all possible to prevent one from occuring this year. An Obama victory means the lobbyist insider, war crimes people and cash collector contractors, criminal bush and cheeny people, etal, all get outed and the MAINSCREAMS look like “dumbledores” for their sycophantic positions and paid off editorializing they did and still do. Will the US voter see through the mis-led and ill-informed pablum they were spoon fed?????? FILM AT ELEVEN, folks.
Posted by: daddyblue | April 22, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
don’t care who she supports , I don’t drink no kool-aide, I support who I choose, and if it is between McCain and Obama , McCain has my vote,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
No matter by what percent Hillary Clinton wins tonight, she is still the liar, (Bosnia) the cover up artist – re Bill Clinton’s sexual exploitation in the Oval Office – The “Right Wing Conspiracy,” the “No Body’s Business”. What is her philosophy on Mentoring & Coaching in the Oval Office? My question to all the Hillary supporters : Will you recommend your young adult children to do an internship with the likes of Hillary, Bill or any one of the Clinton Clans?
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | April 22, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
as well as his persistance in standing up against a war.++++++++++++++++++++That is a joke, he has voted yes on every bill that has come down since he was able to vote, including keeping the troops in Iraq, had he been so against the war, he would have made a stand when he could have, but he did not he votes yes on keeping and sending more troops over there,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: obamaisacon | April 22, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Brian,
That little Katrina speech minus the mention of race, I heard word for word on Air America not too long after the Hurricane and it wasn’t Obama who said it. I have said before he doesn’t have an original thought. When he is unprepared for the question he looks like a deer in the headlights. He is looking more and more like that lately. I agree with Hillary I don’t think he can stand the heat!!
Posted by: Firefighter | April 22, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Juan mccain is the first black president and this is why.
1.) He want to keep troops over in this war for 100 years. All I see dying in this war is (white boys).HA/HA
2.)If juan is elected then our ememies will hate Amerikkka even more so our chances of being attack will increase.
as a brother, I’m voting for juan because he is doing just the opposite of what obama will do but will really suffer from what he said he will do if elected.
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
To obamaisacon, touche’. It seems the DNC gets cold feet and don’t know what the heck to do with their two candidates. Howard Dean is running around as a chicken with no head. The DNC will let the Hillary and Barrack running their party down. No wonder Rush gets more and more exciting with his Operational Chaos and McCain must also have the time of his life at this moment…
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
All the rhetoric and Clitonian tactics will soon play out to an end.
Ultimately, the Clinton family including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will be stumping for Obama when he get the nomination.
She will say I’m sorry, Obama will break her off a few bucks to stump on and everyone will be one big happy family again.
Remember suckas. This is politics.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
All the rhetoric and Clitonian tactics will soon play out to an end.
Ultimately, the Clinton family including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will be stumping for Obama when he gets the nomination.
She will say I’m sorry, Obama will break her off a few bucks to stump on and everyone will be one big happy family again.
Remember suckas. This is politics.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Hm. All the acceptance for Hillary, even while admitting she’s attempted to ‘kneecap’ her opponent.
And I thought, as democrats, we were better than these Rovian tactics. I guess the party is aging out of its own ideals.
And people wonder why there’s a negative atmosphere…
Posted by: Bryan | April 22, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
“Obama supporters are knee-jerk frenzied fringe left-wing lunatic airamerica extremist radical moveon.org sychophants”
You know, I can string together insults too. Except, I’m not a republican, so I won’t. Go troll somewhere else.
Posted by: Bryan | April 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
With the experience of Hillary as first lady and all the goings on in the Oval Office. What is Hillary Clinton fetish for the Oval Office? Will that be Cuban Cigars or Chocolate Cigars or can one of Hillary supporters give it a shot? Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | April 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
The place Hilly can go iis back to New York she has done enought damage to the party as it is.She is something else and can’t really say on this site Not nice>>>>>>
Posted by: h | April 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Louise, you shouldn’t be concerned about Bill Clinton, he made 112 million dollars since he left office. Have you made that much in the past 7 years? People around the world will pay big money to hear him speak and to seek his ideas. Surely you were around when the entire world was a better place and mainly because he was the President of the USA.
What part of the Clinton Administration did all of the Obama goons not like in the 90′s? Was it the prosperity or living in a more peaceful world?
You can claim all you want about Obama but he has done nothing for the area that he serves as a Senator and he will get nothing accomplished for the country as a President. We all saw last week in the debate that unless he has somebody to write his speeches for him, he can’t even answer debate questions without stammering and stuttering all over the place. He flip-flopped on ever response. His performance was just aweful and this person wants to lead our country, we’ve already got a stammering fool in there now and look at the condition of the country and the world. Thanks but NO-Thanks to Obama or McCain.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Obama doesnt have the right tools to run America. He doesnt even answer the questions he’s asked, he goes around them because he has no clue on what the USA needs.
Hillary on the other hand knows what it takes to bring us back from what Bush has done to the US. And I am in full support for her!!
Posted by: Rpasch | April 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
All the rhetoric and Clitonian tactics will soon play out to an end.
Ultimately, the Clinton family including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea will be stumping for Obama when he get the nomination.
She will say I’m sorry, Obama will break her off a few bucks to stump on and everyone will be one big happy family again.
Remember suckas. This is politics.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Juan mccain is going to get thousands of patrotic white boys killed in his 100 year war. (thank you my brother)ha/ha. mccain 08!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Its easy to say you should count the votes for FL and MI when Hillary was the only candidate on the ballet in FL and the only candidate the broke the agreement to campaign in those 2 states. She felt she didn’t need them until later when it was discovered she had a real fight on her hands. I liked both of these candidates in the beginning and would have voted for either of them in general election (most of my friends would have a well. After the last two months of bickering I think I might vote for Nader!
Posted by: Ted | April 22, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Clinton Sour Grape Groupies saying what they will and won’t allow with Obama being president. Oh, really?
let’s see a show of hands, please:
How many of you are willing to be so petulant, childish, petty, ignorant, self-defeating and foolish as to vote for John McCain and a literal THIRD BUSH TERM. Anyone?
Would you be OK with perpetual war, invading Iran, no global warming plan, the overturn of Roe v. Wade and an overwhelming, unassailable majority of right-wing ideologues like Scalia and Thomas on the Supreme Court, endless tax giveaways to oil companies and the super-rich, continued torture, eavesdropping the use of the our Constitution and Bill of Rights as neocon toilet paper? WOULD YOU?
A vote for McCain is a vote for ALL of these hideous policies. Think long and hard before voting for John W. McBush, my friends. The nation you may destroy out of spite and pettiness may ultimately be your own personal demise. Are you willing to cut off your whole arm to save 1 finger? Yea, right.
You know you’re just whining little brats. (smile) Snap out of it and stop being the little chihuaha barking with no bite.
Oh yea, btw. Saudi Arabia, Dubai, China, Russia and Iran would love for McCain to be president, so this country can continue to be pimped out like it has been. Another “John” of a country coming here to acquire another American asset.
However, it won’t happen.
Posted by: Nat Turner | April 22, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
I went to the polls but didn’t take my gun or bible but I was a little bitter.
Posted by: Bill Oh Really | April 22, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
“Obama campaign has run one of hell of a dirty campaign”
What? Where? What in the name of god are you on about?
The reason so many people are attracted to Obama right now is due to how cleanly he’s run his campaign so far: No dirty politics, few direct jabs at his opponent that weren’t direct policy calls.
Obama’s been running, if anything, one of the cleanest campaigns in my memory. Hillary on the other hand has been running her campaign almost as dirty as Karl Rove ran Bush’s campaign against McCain.
Posted by: Bryan | April 22, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Bottomline, never in history have you had a unknown freshman senator with exaggerated accomplishments come close to becoming a nominee for president. I disagree that it has anything to do with race but more to do with the promotion of Obama by the 24 hour media elitist. They appear like a bunch of tightly wound aristocrats who thought it would be more fun to cover the unknown freshman senator as president.
I see the same media refused to report on Obama’s gaffe yesterday. He responded to a “tough” foreign policy question with “Why can’t I just eat my waffle”.
Posted by: Pam | April 22, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I guess I’m frankly growing weary of the whole “if this happens, then this will happen, and if this happens, then that will happen.” I just want it to end. We need to get on with beating McCain. I actually find myself, when reading a blog like this, when it comes to the spin sections, Clinton’s camp says and Obama’s camp say, just skipping right over it and going on with the rest of the story. It doesn’t really matter how each camp spins things. The final end result is what matters and it can’t get here quick enough. I’m tired of it all.
Posted by: Terri | April 22, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Juan mccain is going to get thousands of patrotic white boys killed in his 100 year war. (thank you my brother)ha/ha. mccain 08! He said he was gonna do it! so he has this brothers vote!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I often listened to right wing wackos like HUSH BIMBO, SHUN SANITY, BILE OHREALLY, mikey the savage weiner, annie coulterguist, SMUDGE, CLEAN BREAK, DONE IMESS, and the rest of the clan because I like to keep up with the enemies tactics. Then you can see where all these sapheads on this post get their stupid talking points from. The MAINSCREAM clowns might mention how much the republican vote for HILLARY charade has helped prop her up to the amount she now has, but studious review by the MAINSCREAMS is an oxymoron. Excuse me for that…speaking of oxymorons, wonder if HUSH BIMBO still gets a load of oxycontin to help him roll his big ole self around on his flared up hemorrhoids while the minions lap up his dumb drool for another day….READ IT AND WEEP, dumb repugnicans….HEEHEEHEE
Posted by: daddyblue | April 22, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
I said it before and I am still saying it. If Hillary loses the nomination I will be voting republican in November.
Posted by: ikkeye | April 22, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
I think some people have their heads up the behind, they think one party is fantastic and the other stinks. In reality they both stink but what stinks worse is people being silly enough to not realize that!
Posted by: meandtherest | April 22, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
I am getting a little tired that people want to use the PRIMARIES as the final voting arenas for this presidential campaign. Doesn’t the General Election count for anything anymore? And if the Primaries are going to dictate who the next president will be, then why even have a general election. This entire election has become just B.S. and I am already sick of it.
Obama is a no win period. I don’t know of any one person that will vote for him – not a single person. Hillary should win this primary, but then the super delegates will pick the Democratic nominee. Again, what the heck is there a general election for then? I really wish that someone would explain this to me – and NO not an obama follower please.
Posted by: Lou | April 22, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Juan mccain is going to get thousands of patrotic white boys killed in his 100 year war. (thank you my brother)ha/ha. mccain 08!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I’m furious. I was just turned away from the voting booths because I am not registered as either/or a Democrat or Republican!!!!!!! Instead I am listed as “NF”. My husband was not allowed to vote either!!!!! I can tell you this…there would have been two more votes for Hillary Clinton. AND, if she does not get the democratic nomination I and my husband will vote Republican!
Posted by: Gail | April 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Bill, Hillary and Chelsie is trowing a party tonight to celebrate – Who want to be there? Sincerely, Lake Hart
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | April 22, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I’m not counting Hillary out just yet! I’m in PA and saw an overwhelming turnout for the two polling places that I visited today and the consensus was, “Go Hillary!”
Obama’s a nice guy, but no experience and no crucial voting. With Hillary, we get Bill! That was the best economy we’ve seen back when the Clinton’s were in the White House. Our country had a surplus, while now we’re in debt and borrowing billions per day from other countries to stay in Iraq. This war is costing us so many innocent lives just so Haliburton and their cronies can make the big bucks.
Gas was so much cheaper and we could afford to buy groceries and go out for dinner.
Now, everyone’s struggling under the reign of W. Good riddance to W and McCain.
Posted by: Donna Wentz | April 22, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
And I’m sorry, but all this “If Hillary loses the nomination, I will voting Republican in November” is about the stupidest thing some of you say. That’s right, that will show them, won’t it? “Look at me, I voted Republican, and now I have to live with it.” What the hell does that prove? It’s yourself you’re hurting, and unortunately you threaten to take the rest of us down with you. God, people are idiots.
Posted by: Terri | April 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Gail, it’s probably the Hillary people. They’re suppressing votes. They’re crooks.
If you’re a Hillary supporter, don’t watch the MSNBC/NBC coverage. It’s hosted by TWO Obama supporters, Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman!
Unbelievable.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Black boys can’t vote up there bblack, they’re ion jail for violent crimes. Don’t use the term white boys bblack, how do you like it?
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Remember! united we stand divided YOU fall. I’m black! mccain 08 “keep the white troops over in this war for 100 years” mccain 08. More white girls to date!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
OBAMA all the way
Posted by: OBAMA SUPPORTER | April 22, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama won the endorsement of 29 North Carolina state legislators on Tuesday, a significant boost to his candidacy ahead of the state’s May 6 primary.
Led by Senate Majority Leader Tony Rand and former Speaker of the House Dan Blue of Raleigh, the lawmakers repeated the same lines as others who have endorsed Obama — that the Illinois senator can bring people together and ignite change across the country.
Blue also challenged the Clinton campaign to remain positive in North Carolina, saying he had seen nothing but negativity so far in Pennsylvania.
“I hope this is not what we can should expect to come to North Carolina in the next two weeks,” Blue said. “Tired old political tactics aren’t going to bring about the kind of change we need.”
Blue and Rand said their support comes in part because they think Obama will help Democrats win other offices in the state and because he has committed to win in North Carolina in November’s general election.
Rand praised Obama for speaking directly. “He won’t just tell everyone what they want to hear,” Rand said. “He’ll tell people what they need to hear.”
He said the group will raise money and stump for Obama if they are asked. And he praised Obama’s ability to raise millions of dollars in part on the strength of $100 donations.
“We’re prepared to do whatever. I mean, I’ll give him a hundred,” Rand said.
Posted by: MITCH | April 22, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Juan mccain is going to get thousands of patrotic white boys killed in his 100 year war. (thank you my brother)ha/ha. mccain 08!
Posted by: bblack
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You’re a racist scumbag bblack
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
If Clinton is able to reach the voters as a genuine whole person she might have a better chance. That entire throwing back a beer looked fake, a put on because she thought that was what this evenings voters were looking for. Her performance in the last debate did’t help her cause. Clinton was tryinh to show her “tough” side, however, she seemed mean & nasty.
Posted by: CJ | April 22, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
It is a sad day in America when this country can’t get past their prejudices and personal feelings to elect a President who wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth(Barak Obama) that should be one of the many reasons that people should leave Hillary Clinton and John Mccain alone!!! This country needs someone who has been POOR before and who doesn’t have to grease the palms of other people when they take office(Clintons and Mccain) John McCain married a billionaress so he DEFINITELY cannot relate to the average joe! Get Real people Hillary Clinton doesn’t ahve anymore experience as president than Obama, she was ONLY a first lady and the last time I checked that wasn’t a prelude to being president! She is running more of the same negativ epolitics that has DIVIDED this country for so many years and a vote for her means a voter for more of the same BS..A vote for McCain means that we all will be paying for a war for the rest of our miserable lives and forget about trying to achieve the american dream-it isn’t going to happen with him!!!
Posted by: terri | April 22, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
to Family 3 – Director of HR over 10,000 people – you sound stupid as hell.
How do you know what kind of job he will do – look at the 13th ward of Chicago – shameful/awful. He hasn’t done a thing, and you are telling a lie when you say he has.
Scary stuff, what you Obama supporters believe. Mr. HR Director you must be believe in the anti-American hatred that Obama and his associations believe in.
NO TO AN UNPROVEN CANDIDATE OBAMA
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | April 22, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Mitch, wrong. He doesn’t tell people what they need to hear.
He won’t answer the tax questions and the gun control issues. When he didn’t answer the question about how he felt about the upcoming SC appeal on the ban of guns in DC, he dodged, pretending he didn’t know the specifics. He voted “present” on 100s of bills so he wouldn’t get pinned down on the most controversial issues.
You guys are so gullible to believe this guy. Sorry, your praise of him is foolish and doesn’t fool any of us.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard:
Admitted Lies
• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)
Whoppers She Won’t Confess To
• She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the ’90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?
In a USA Today/Gallup survey when people were asked whether the canditates were “honest and trustworthy”, Senator John McCain came in first with 67percent, Senator Barrack Obama second with 63 percent and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton came in last with 44 percent.
Some of her “mispoken stories” include…
1. Daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (In reality, she was sleeping in bed.)
2. She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (He climbed Mount Everest FIVE YEARS AFTER HER BIRTH!.)
3. She came running off a plane in Bosnia because she was under sniper fire. (That’s not the way the CBS camera recorded it. In reality, a girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
4. She was able to make a big killing in the futures market of what she learned in The Wall Street Journal. (TWSJ didn’t cover the market back then.)
Posted by: Nav | April 22, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
I would never vote for a black man for President.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard:
Admitted Lies
• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)
Whoppers She Won’t Confess To
• She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the ’90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?
Michael (US citizen working in Brazil) March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET
In a USA Today/Gallup survey when people were asked whether the canditates were “honest and trustworthy”, Senator John McCain came in first with 67percent, Senator Barrack Obama second with 63 percent and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton came in last with 44 percent.
Some of her “mispoken stories” include…
1. Daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (In reality, she was sleeping in bed.)
2. She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (He climbed Mount Everest FIVE YEARS AFTER HER BIRTH!.)
3. She came running off a plane in Bosnia because she was under sniper fire. (That’s not the way the CBS camera recorded it. In reality, a girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
4. She was able to make a big killing in the futures market of what she learned in The Wall Street Journal. (TWSJ didn’t cover the market back then.)
Posted by: NAV | April 22, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Terri, nice try, but it doesn’t wash.
People are against Barack for a number of reasons. His attitudes about his country and his association with shady characters.
John McCain is your next president. The Obama kool-aid ain’t working on the smart people.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I was going to vote for Obama but I thought of the picture of the guy with the huge glasses on the news and the racial rant of Rev. Wright and I stopped for a minute. I then continued but again I had a picture of the shady Rezco and the comment about guns and bibles echoed in my head and I stopped again. I JUST COULDN”T DO IT.
Posted by: Bill Oh Really | April 22, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
One more thing: for all those who keep bragging about Obama’s millions as a major accomplishment, why don’t we see a list of these so-called “small donors” who contributed $200 or less? I saw a long list of those who contributed $4600 or more. BTW, these were small chickens compared to the very long list of the wealthy elites (bundlers) who contributed thousands of dollors or close to a million. Obama is not going to be the president of “the little people”. He considers the hardworking middle class such as nurses, firemen and teachers “wealthy people”. That means he plans to raise taxes on us.
Posted by: Pam | April 22, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
100 years of white boys getting shot up!
Juan mccain will get this brothers vote!
mccain 08! more white girls to date!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
If you think a black guy who has terorist buddies in a post 9/11 world can be Commander in Chief….then you’re living in a fairy tale.
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
100 years of white boys getting shot up!
Juan mccain will get this brothers vote!
mccain 08! more white girls to date!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
After seeing all the polarized comments here it’s pretty easy to see the clear winner in Penn: John McCAIN.
Posted by: ctrl-z | April 22, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I love how everyone blames everything on Bush. The senate majority is Democrat yet they take no responsibility. Just like recently, Nancy (witch)Pelosi has recently blocked Bush’s trade agreement. So please keep in mind a president can only do so much especially when the majority is against him. I know one thing… I do not want some Democrat (Hillary or Obama) taking more taxes from me to give those who are too sorry and lazy to work! This is exactly what is going to happen.
Posted by: Repubgal | April 22, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Barack hasn’t done anyhing for Illinois, but we’re suppose to give him the responsibility of the United States??!!
Uh, I DON’T THINK SO!!
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I’m honest enough to admit that I would never vote for a black man with an arabic name for President.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Hillary has mis spent her heritage. ” What heritage?”
ETHICS
After the tumult and right wing assault, the great majority of us believed SHE was the competent, ethical Clinton. The wronged spouse. the adult in a dysfunctional family.
That image is now in shreds thanks to her. Hillary never did have an impressive record as a lawyer or as a Senator .. “adequate, rain maker, good guy” all come to mind before “leader, innovator.”
What reputation remains is as the first woman to blow a chance at REAL leadership. Pelosi, Boxer, Napolitano .. all come out looking way better than she.
Why has she done this to herself? I suppose one can call it blind ambition, but ambition that fails to get tis end is also fruitless ambition.
Posted by: Stephen Schwartz | April 22, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I feel that as usual the UNINTELLIGENT people are condemning Obama (for something someone else said..real smart) but the truly INTELLIGENT Americans will vote Obama in office. Americans are smart, I have to believe that. Its scary how many hypersensitive hypocrites are out there. These very same people have racism in their family and may not agree but don’t disown them. Those of you lashing out. How would you like it if someone called you a racist because someone you know or in you family is. That would be unfair to you. Everyone has their own mind. I’ve heard my own family say racist things and I correct them but I don’t disown them. The standard we hold
Posted by: Nav | April 22, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I believe that Barack Obama is the most singularly intelligent, feeling and caring about this country I love. I am sorry people think that hoping and working toward peace and well being of the great American People is “drinking the koolaid”. I am proud of how he stayed out of the muck Hill was throwing until he no longer could take the elbows. She has been rude and vicious. Finally, black white blue or purple, I do not care, let’s lead this country to peace and stability. Let’s take care of our own. I do not expect any president to do it on his or her own. I expect US to be involved in the process of taking our world forward.
Posted by: karen | April 22, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I absolutely love the fighting and mud slinging between these two. I hope they keep it up until June. McCain is going to kick either’s butt. He may not be the greatest but he is surely the lesses of three evils!
Posted by: gottaluvit | April 22, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
To the Webmaster of this site: please start putting the comments on multiple pages. This site will be unloadable relatively soon and we won’t be able to refresh it.
Posted by: Call it, friendo | April 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
This is really a once in lifetime happening………
It takes generations and centuries that spirit comes thru with extraordinary abilities (one in millions) to be like Senator Barack Obama.
I belong to a socially and politically sound and very well respected family from INDIA and for me it’s not difficult to understand someone’s abilities and make a right judgment.
And I also know that change only happens from ordinary people with extraordinary abilities.
Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has special abilities……….and it’s enough time for the Americans to understand him.
This is man with special abilities, vision, wisdom, instinct and moral values. A man with true beliefs, unbelievable strength, passion and hope.
Today America needs a president who has ability, character and judgment, not years on this earth…..what they called experience. These are fundamental qualifications to become a leader.
We need to understand and measure a character of a man who is standing for cause and commitment more than anything in life and who has the potential to transform this nation and the world into right direction.
As we are already facing unbelievable/ catastrophic consequences on this planet and more over the planet itself is in danger.
Today, this moment we need a president who understands his responsibilities for long term sustainability of our planet and survival of human civilization. Who can unite and encourage world leaders for the common cause and commitment to stand up to the highest moral and ethical believes and standards in order to find some of the critical solutions of our time and save this planet for future generations.
Barack’s campaign is a lot more than just implementing better programs. it is about empowering all Americans to work together for the common good and to end the prejudice and divisions among groups. This is a rare opportunity to elect a leader who can help us begin a proud chapter
In American history.
So I think history is giving us this last chance to recover and survive and now it is up to us that we will ask our hearts and minds to sense and speak out truth and make a right judgment call.
I am confident that he will surely make a difference in the world.
Nav
Posted by: INDIA,CALIFORNIA | April 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Every black person in America is voting for Hussein because he’s half black. It’s just a fact, they are the most racist people in this country. All the more reason I will never vote for obama or even use caps for his name.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Lady Hillary is a fighter and a worker and she is more knowledgeable about foreign policy and government and can actually do something as president. Obama has a message of bitterness.
Posted by: Bill Oh Really | April 22, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
No matter what the Nobamabots think, Nobama can’t and won’t win the GE, period.
Kerry 41%; Gore 42%; W Clinton 43% white vote and only Clinton won
Even Nobama’s campaign admits they cannot win without minimum 39% W-vote assuming 100% blacks vote Nobama (not unreasonable)
For every 1% decrease in W-vote, Obama needs 4% latino vote (thus Richardson)with a starting point of 50% assumed already
Nobama only has at most 37% W-vote BEFORE Wright, typical white person, cling to guns & religion, etc.
Thus Nobama needs 90% latino vote to be realistic since W-votes will decline after Wright, etc and HRC voters-Reagan/blue collar Dems- will defect by a greater ratio than Nobama voters. In addition, latinos will never vote Nobama by the margins needed as they are not party loyal like blacks. They were loyal to Clintons only, and have more affection to McCain than Nobama since McCain is from a border state and they liked his immigration policies.
Nobama can’t win the GE as predicated by state polls also, which show even in Dem strongholds like MA & NJ, McCain either has a lead or is tied, although not stat significant; it however shows the difficulty for Nobama. Moreover, the likelihood of Nobama winning any southern state now after Wright and cling to guns is relatively small, if not impossible. The big state win issue does have merit and that’s why superdels haven’t ended this already.
Therefore Nobama will end up somewhere in the neighbourhood of Mondale and Dukakais, and we can then all say hello pres McCain. Even the most BIAS name in news CNN’s Dana Bash reported that the McCain campaign admitted that it would be more difficlut for them to win versus HRC than the empty suit, and now easily defeatable Barry Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden.
Hillary (McCain if necessary)
Posted by: Obamadefector | April 22, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Isn’t it interesting that the race card can only be used by blacks? Several high black officials have been asked how they could vote for Hillary since she is white. So the blacks are SUPPOSE to stick together but the DUMB whites are suppose to vote for black Obama or be considered racist. Real fair. So you dumb whites keep voting for him. I know what his change is going to be and you are going to be sorry you voted for him.
Posted by: noobama08 | April 22, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard:
Admitted Lies
• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)
Whoppers She Won’t Confess To
• She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the ’90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).
With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?
Michael (US citizen working in Brazil) March 26th, 2008 12:20 pm ET
In a USA Today/Gallup survey when people were asked whether the canditates were “honest and trustworthy”, Senator John McCain came in first with 67percent, Senator Barrack Obama second with 63 percent and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton came in last with 44 percent.
Some of her “mispoken stories” include…
1. Daughter Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (In reality, she was sleeping in bed.)
2. She was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (He climbed Mount Everest FIVE YEARS AFTER HER BIRTH!.)
3. She came running off a plane in Bosnia because she was under sniper fire. (That’s not the way the CBS camera recorded it. In reality, a girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
4. She was able to make a big killing in the futures market of what she learned in The Wall Street Journal. (TWSJ didn’t cover the market back then.)
Posted by: Nav | April 22, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
out of 4000 dead troops, 3878 are good old Amerikkkan red blodded white boys!(thank god)!as a brother, my vote is for juan mccain!100 more good years my undercover brother! mccain 08! more white girls to date! I’m login off my red blooded Amerikkkan brothers! peace!
Posted by: bblack | April 22, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I haven’t had a chance to read other messages here yet, but should CNN and Fox be releasing exit poll data before the polls close?
Posted by: s. valenti | April 22, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Rick Klein is a hillary-hater. I would take anything with a grain of salt he says.
Posted by: Roger Miller | April 22, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Obama whines about the tough questions about his character. Lady Hillary is very dignified.
Posted by: Bill Oh Really | April 22, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Obama is a girlie-man and Michelle will be happy when he loses and can get back to bakin them pot brownies again!! Maybe Michelle will let him run for PTA president if he asks her nicely!!
NOBAMA 08
Posted by: OBAMASGRANNY | April 22, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Nav nobody cares about your stupid double post. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR obamba IN THE GENERAL ELECTION! HE’S TOAST AND THE DEMS WASTED A GOOD OPPOURTUNITY
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
bblack you are a typical black. Whites are the reason you are where you are today and you want them dead? How stupid.. after whites are all dead you will go back to canabolism because you will be too sorry, stupid and lazy to feed yourself. If not for whites you would be in Africa doing that now. Such a shame. I will buy a ticket for you to go back?
Posted by: joeb3389 | April 22, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
“out of 4000 dead troops, 3878 are good old Amerikkkan red blodded white boys!(thank god)!as a brother, my vote is for juan mccain!100 more good years my undercover brother! mccain 08! more white girls to date! I’m login off my red blooded Amerikkkan brothers! peace!”
——————–t
The Nation is Islam has a prayer right about now right bblack? Better hurry you racist pig.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
This is really a once in lifetime happening………
It takes generations and centuries that spirit comes thru with extraordinary abilities (one in millions) to be like Senator Barack Obama.
I belong to a socially and politically sound and very well respected family from INDIA and for me it’s not difficult to understand someone’s abilities and make a right judgment.
And I also know that change only happens from ordinary people with extraordinary abilities.
Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has special abilities……….and it’s enough time for the Americans to understand him.
This is man with special abilities, vision, wisdom, instinct and moral values. A man with true beliefs, unbelievable strength, passion and hope.
Today America needs a president who has ability, character and judgment, not years on this earth…..what they called experience. These are fundamental qualifications to become a leader.
We need to understand and measure a character of a man who is standing for cause and commitment more than anything in life and who has the potential to transform this nation and the world into right direction.
As we are already facing unbelievable/ catastrophic consequences on this planet and more over the planet itself is in danger.
Today, this moment we need a president who understands his responsibilities for long term sustainability of our planet and survival of human civilization. Who can unite and encourage world leaders for the common cause and commitment to stand up to the highest moral and ethical believes and standards in order to find some of the critical solutions of our time and save this planet for future generations.
Barack’s campaign is a lot more than just implementing better programs. it is about empowering all Americans to work together for the common good and to end the prejudice and divisions among groups. This is a rare opportunity to elect a leader who can help us begin a proud chapter
In American history.
So I think history is giving us this last chance to recover and survive and now it is up to us that we will ask our hearts and minds to sense and speak out truth and make a right judgment call.
I am confident that he will surely make a difference in the world.
Nav
Stanford University
California.
Posted by: INDIA CALIFORNIA FOR BARACK OBAMA | April 22, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Well, guys, if you say so, but I believe that we simply can’t tell, because last week, polls said Clinton had 51 and Obama had 49. Many in the begginning of this month suggested that Clinton had 67 and Obama had 33. Now, we don’t know. We’ll find out at 8:00 PM at CNN channel on TV in April 22, 2008. Good luck, supporters.
Posted by: rohit | April 22, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Repubgal, you must be kidding, it was a Republican led congress throughout George W. Bush’s entire first term and most of the 2nd, the Democrats only won the House back less than 1.5 years ago and very narrowly at that. They can’t get anything accomplished because he threatens to veto every bill not to his liking.
These Republican Thugs needs to hit the road, in fact they should send Cheney and Bush to Iraq and let them do a little fighting, the only problem with that would be that Cheney would shoot his fellow allies on the front lines.
What recovering economy did you know from George Herbert Bush, it was a total mess when he left office, in fact he had lower approval ratings than his son. That’s why he couldn’t win a 2nd term.
Posted by: shalabalaboo | April 22, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
N’ Obama
You read what polls make Hillary look good.You use the race card just like Bill when its convienent (you do realize that Obama is half white!)You are the exact reason why Hillary should NOT win!
Posted by: sc | April 22, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
#1 reason not to vote for obama
100% of all blacks are voting for him.
Why? His color, his give away programs, his promise to make our country fair for everyone (income), free housing, free medical care, more welfare. Heck if I was black I would vote for him too.
Who will pay for this? whitey
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Change is desperately needed….but yet, both Ohio and Penn will opt for the same old and then spend the next four years in worse shape.
Posted by: Jim | April 22, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
My question is why did Obama decide NOT to debate in N.C.? Hmmm, interesting to me that he was all for this until he actually got some tough questions, by the way he could’t handle, in the last debate on ABC. Amazing to me how when the media is on “his” side he is all for it, now that the media is getting REAL with the questions, poor thing can’t handle it. Hmmm, sounds like a fine man for president to me.
Posted by: razorbackette | April 22, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
These people that voted a mentally ill President in TWICE, still can’t get enough abuse from the OLD Cling/t-on Team.
She’s like cancer…she looks for any change to spread poison.
One good thing, Hillheadach has shown people her true colors…and they are sickening.
I would vote for
Posted by: plzBover | April 22, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Rick,
All the candidates take off to other states. It’s what they’ve always done. It’s a campaign. They have rallies back to back. I remember several speeches by Obama from the next state where he speaks about a state he just won. Stop the micromanaging and reading into things—you guys sound like needy people in a bad relationship.
Nothing is “up”.
Posted by: Jerome | April 22, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Obama is most likley to win Oregon, North Carolina and West Virgina, even if he does so by only 10 points and loses all the rest by 10 points or less, with 100 superdelagates he wins.
that is also assuming the remining 211 go with hillary. he doesn’t even need a majority of the superdelegates to win the nomimation.
Posted by: Louis | April 22, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
#1 Reason to vote obama
SC- You are why I voted obama today..You racist. I am white. Who cares what color skin is? Why don’t you pay off your credit card bills instead of worrying about what programs obama might make you pay for?
Posted by: Don Bradley | April 22, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Jerome, you sound so sure Obama will carry N.C. after him NOT debating you just might be in for a surprise.
Posted by: razorbackette | April 22, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Howard Wolfson, a Clinton campaign spokesperson, just said “nookyular” on MSNBC, responding to Chris Matthews regarding Clinton’s promise to “totally obliterate” Iran in response to any attack on Israel.
Posted by: seattleadam | April 22, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
This is really a once in lifetime happening………
It takes generations and centuries that spirit comes thru with extraordinary abilities (one in millions) to be like Senator Barack Obama.
I belong to a socially and politically sound and very well respected family from INDIA and for me it’s not difficult to understand someone’s abilities and make a right judgment.
And I also know that change only happens from ordinary people with extraordinary abilities.
Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has special abilities……….and it’s enough time for the Americans to understand him.
This is man with special abilities, vision, wisdom, instinct and moral values. A man with true beliefs, unbelievable strength, passion and hope.
Today America needs a president who has ability, character and judgment, not years on this earth…..what they called experience. These are fundamental qualifications to become a leader.
We need to understand and measure a character of a man who is standing for cause and commitment more than anything in life and who has the potential to transform this nation and the world into right direction.
As we are already facing unbelievable/ catastrophic consequences on this planet and more over the planet itself is in danger.
Today, this moment we need a president who understands his responsibilities for long term sustainability of our planet and survival of human civilization. Who can unite and encourage world leaders for the common cause and commitment to stand up to the highest moral and ethical believes and standards in order to find some of the critical solutions of our time and save this planet for future generations.
Barack’s campaign is a lot more than just implementing better programs. it is about empowering all Americans to work together for the common good and to end the prejudice and divisions among groups. This is a rare opportunity to elect a leader who can help us begin a proud chapter
In American history.
So I think history is giving us this last chance to recover and survive and now it is up to us that we will ask our hearts and minds to sense and speak out truth and make a right judgment call.
I am confident that he will surely make a difference in the world.
Nav
Stanford University
California.
Posted by: NAV for BARACK OBAMA | April 22, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Nope, I am not kidding. I love President Bush. He is NOT perfect but neither have any of our other presidents been. I know I am alive, I live in a free country, I am not hungry and I have a job. I remember when Pres. Carter was in office, NO ONE had jobs. He has been voted the worst pres. in the history of the US. He is still making stupid decisions. If Clinton had done his job we may not have had to go to war. I am glad that Pres. Bush has let the other countries know we will NOT take their crap. Think Obama or Hillary will do that? No, they will invite the terrorists over for cake and ice cream.
Better build a bomb shelter in your backyard.
Posted by: repubgal | April 22, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Hill-Billy will make president. She has proven she is a lying, coniving
story telling hag that is out for her own personal gain. Luckily she will have a excuse and someone to blame for everything she messes up. I just can’t believe the American people buy into this.
Posted by: tiqgal | April 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I am voting for Obama. Not because I think he is the candidate that can win in November, but because I am voting my conscience. To me, it is not about who is the most electable. It is not about democrat or republican or independant. It is about who I believe is the best person to lead this country in a different direction than it is going now. If my candidate does not win, so be it. I voted my conscience.
I respect everyone’s right to free speech, but I see that both Obama and Clinton followers are using this to say things that really don’t have any substance, and are hurtful to the opposite side. When did we become so polarized that we could not appreciate the fact that there are many sides to all political arguments.
I think that before you slam the other side(s), whether it is slamming McCain, Clinton, or Obama, you should find out the good and bad of these opponents and base your arguments in fact (or what passes for that, these days). I have no problem with a candidate not wording somehting correctly, and having to explain it later. I will take their explination at face value. All of the candidates have had associates in the past who are less than stellar. Again, it does not mean much to me.
It is much more important for me to know how these candidates feel about the Economy, the war in Iraq and Afganistan, the state of the poor and middle class, the cost of a gallon of gas. They all have baggage (part of the price of being a politician). I choose to look beyond that when making my decision. There are no angels running for president.
I am not going to let newscasters and candidate’s oppponents tell me what to believe. I am going to listen to what the candidates have to say, and base my opinion on that. All of the candidates have good and bad in them. This is not about winning at any cost, it is about voting your conscience.
A little respect for others would go a long way in swaying my vote. Mudslinging, slanted reporting, hate for your opponent turns me off.
Please, try saying what you like about your candidate, and try to see what you honestly like/dislike about their opponents. See what they stand for in reality, not what the press or their opponent is saying.
Posted by: Vote Your Concience | April 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
SOME OF YOU SEEM TO FORGET IT IS HUMAN NATURE TO GO AFTER YOUR POLITICAL ENEMIES WHEN YOU COME BACK TO POWER.JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE HILLARY @ BILL WILL GO AFTER FOR ALL THE WRONG THAT WAS DONE TO THEM AND IT WAS WRONG KEN STAR AND ALL HIS LIES ABOUT THE CLINTONS. IN HILLS WORDS ALL THE WRIGHT WING CONSPIRITORS BETTER LOOK OUT. THE COUNTRY WILL BE BOGGED DOWN IN SENATE INVESTAGATIONS AND CONGRESSONAL INVESTAGATIONS AND NONE OF OUR COUNTRYS BUISNESS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.NOT TO MENTION THE GOOD OL BOYS WILL BE TRYING TO GET HER AND BILL AGAIN.I JUST REALLY WISH PEOPLE WOULD THINK ABOUT HOW PRESEDENT BILL CLINTON WAS STOPPED IN HIS TRACKS FOR TWO YEARS BY ALL THE COURT HEARINGS MONICA INVESTIGATIONS WHITE WATER INVESTAGATIONS PAULA JONES INVESTAGATIONS AND THERE ARE MORE NOT TO SAY ANY OF IT WAS FAIR TO THEM.BUT WHY TAKE A CHANCE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN WE AS AMERICANS HAVE A CHANCE TO GIVE A MAN AND THE COUNTRY A CHANCE.SAY GOOD BY TO NATIONAL HEALTH CARE IF HILLARY WINS AND ANY THING SHE HAS PROMISED THIS COUNTRY THE GOOD OL BOYS WILL NEVER LET HER RIGHT THIS COUNTRY. AFTER ALL I WOULD CHEAT OFF OF OBAMA TERM PAPER BEFORE I WOULD CHEAT OFF OF GEORGE BUSH TERM PAPER THINK ABOUT IT!! NOT THAT I WOULD EVER CHEAT OFF SOMEONE.
Posted by: CHUCK | April 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Chuck you have a point, isn’t it amazing that the republicans spend millions of dollars investigating infidelity of a marriage but turn the other way regarding cheney and bush and halliburton, not to mention the lies we received from bush and cheny regarding the Iraq war? Yep, I see why america is in such great shape under bush’s leadership.
Posted by: razorbackette | April 22, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
The real losers in this election are the American public. We have shown that we are too racists, sexist and stuck in the past to move this country forward and elect someone different from the self serving politicians that usually dominate our political systems. We are pathetic and we deserve to go down in flames which we are well on the way to doing
Posted by: AZ Dee | April 22, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
“Chuck you have a point, isn’t it amazing that the republicans spend millions of dollars investigating infidelity of a marriage but turn the other way regarding cheney and bush and halliburton, not to mention the lies we received from bush and cheny regarding the Iraq war? Yep, I see why america is in such great shape under bush’s leadership.”
Hogwash! List the charges then list the lies then submit credible evidence to support each. Talk is cheap. . . . put up or shut up.
Posted by: rplat | April 22, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Noabama will not win W. Virginia like the post by Louis-probabaly Farakhan-above says.
Another Nobamabot that has no idea and thus reinforces the fact that Nobamabots are brainwashed former Warren Jeffs cult members hypnotized by their new leader Barry Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden.
Hillary (McCain if necessary)
Posted by: Obamadefector | April 22, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
I love the Bill Cunningham’s definition of CHANGE. ROFTLMAO.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Clinton who was the presumptive favorite last year cant close the deal either—she spins all her weaknesses on Obama–she is nothing more than a despical hypocritical human being who appartently has duped these Pennsylvania idiots
Posted by: Dan A | April 22, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I just love not voting for obama because he’s black. If blacks can vote for him because of his race then I can vote against him beacuse of it.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
LOL rplat, aren’t you the comedian? Well lets start with bush and cheneys interest in halliburton and how halliburton continually gets ALL the contracts for bids especially in iraq. that’s just for starters. but you are right, infidelity is definetly something to impeach someone for.
Posted by: razorbackette | April 22, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
For people believing Obama’s one life-time
leader:
Convince me any of his records that prove
this? He climbed up his political ladder
by associating himself with corrupt developer; the God father of his IL party,
the very man whose actions were complete oppsite to Obama’s preach; a racist black
pastor, whose words were completely opposite to Obama’s belief. Tell me anything he has done to unify this country, not just what he said he will do, but what he has done?
Listening passively to Wrignt’s words is not tolerable if you are a person running for president.
Posted by: AMy | April 22, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 ! HILLARY 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
I can’t understand how anyone can vote for
Obama All he says is change well I for one
would like to know what that is. He just
talks in circles never answers anything.
I still can’t get past the Rev. Wright I can tell you if I went to a church and the
Pastor spewed that kind of garbage it would’nt have taken me 20 years to leave. I just don’t trust him at all. I am a Dem
and have never voted for a Rep but if he wins the nom I will vote for McCain. Its just to scary to not know what he will do.
Posted by: Tech | April 22, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
REV WRIGHT REV WRIGHT REV WRIGHT REV WRONG!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Hillary continues to pounce on the unelectability of Obama and it’s beginning to take root. Analysts are now saying, when she wins BIG in Pennslyvania, and she has won ALL the BIG states, especially the blue collar worker and Catholics, that this will impeded Obama’s electability. The SuperD’s take this into account very heavily and are likely to start recanting their endorsement of Obama. Pennsylvania is a BIGGER win for Hillary than most people realize. This could catapult Hillary to the nomination. Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
@NAV Thank you!
I don’t think that we can afford more of the same two power hungry families that have been in the presidential office of this country over the past 24 years (admitted not all bad, but surely a setup for the failure US is experiencing currently). If others disagree, I beg you to look at Clinton’s education demographic.
Obama!
Posted by: jason | April 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
The exit polls in PA indicate that 92% of the african-american vote went to Obama.
If this kind of voting patters would be flipped in that high level amongst white voters there would be cries and outrage over racism.
Seems that white voters are far more accepting of a black candidate then the african american for the white female.
Posted by: Elle | April 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Why is everyone griping about how long this process is taking. It was the DNC who decided the voting would last until June. If you want to wrap up the nomination earlier, have the states vote earlier. Don’t point the finger at Hillary, who has 400 more delegates than Edward Kennedy did when he refused to give up the fight.
I think the democratic party needs to start counting the votes of all its members. That means letting everyone vote. Eliminate caucuses and make every state a primary. That way people are not punished for having to work or illness.
Posted by: Deborah C | April 22, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Observer – you are a bad boy that needs a good whippin from his mama!! How can you not be buying into all of the “CHANGE” the OLD POLITICS OBAMA has been putting on the people!! Could it be you have not been drinking the kool aid – OH HELL YES!! WAKE UP DEMOCRATS AND SMACK DOWN THE PHONY OBAMA!!!
Posted by: fairnews08 | April 22, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Any argument to exclude the votes of Florida and Michigan is anti-democratic and baseless. I know that doesn’t suit Obama but it just the fact. You can’t punish voters for doing something they has no say in by disenfranchising them. That argument cannot be sustained by anyone who believes in democracy.
Posted by: Mark | April 22, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
anyone but obama. What is wrong with you white people? Don’t you know what him and Louis Farrkhan have in store for you?
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Out of interest, who would be leading the delegate count if the Democrats used the ‘winner take all’ delegates like the Republican primaries? As an outside observer i would think the sensible approach is to be using the most similar system to the presidential election (ie. winner take all).
Posted by: Mark A | April 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Obama is afraid to debate Hillary again. He knows now that the moderators are seeing thru his fake persona and are asking the “vetting” questions that he doesn’t want to answer. That’s ok. As CNN reported tonite, he’s hurting himself now for not agreeing to debate in North Carolina. Again, he’s trying to pander North Carolinians and he’s showing how “fake” he really is. CNN also stated that Florida and Michigan delegates will be seated and will go to Clinton. I see the analyst beginning to dispell the idea of an Obama nomination. Keep it up, Hillary….YOU are the fighter and keep on keepin on! America is behind you. Can you say, “Madame President?” Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
‘Any argument to exclude the votes of Florida and Michigan is anti-democratic and baseless. I know that doesn’t suit Obama but it just the fact. You can’t punish voters for doing something they has no say in by disenfranchising them. That argument cannot be sustained by anyone who believes in democracy.’
So you are saying that there should be no concequence to Florida and Michigan breaking the rules that they were given to operate under?
Posted by: Vote Your Concience | April 22, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
If any democrats believe Obama can win the general election, they are TOO NAIVE! In this country, there’s little chance for a real left wing to score a victory. I’m a democrat, so I believe the safest choice for a democratic win in the general election is to give Hillary the nomination because she is a reserved democratic that can attract votes from some conservatives. If Obama’s willing to cooperate, he can be Hillary’s running mate. Obama should just stop running and agree to be a VP for 8 years then become a president in 2016. He’s still too young and needs more years to gain experience.
Posted by: smartcookie2008 | April 22, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
fairnews. you got any of that kool-aid? It must be good, really good. If white voters can vote for a racist black man and his racist wife for CIC with an arabic name, who attends THe CHurch OF Hate for 20 years (trinity)then they must be smoking it too.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
If any democrats believe Obama can win the general election, they are TOO NAIVE! In this country, there’s little chance for a real left wing to score a victory in election campaign. I’m a democrat, so I believe the safest choice for the democratic party to score a win in the general election is to give Hillary the nomination because she is a reserved democrat who can attract votes from some conservatives. If Obama’s willing to cooperate, he can be Hillary’s running mate. Obama should just stop running and agree to be a VP for 8 years then become a president in 2016. He’s still too young and needs more years to gain experience.
Posted by: smartcookie2008 | April 22, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
On MSNBC, Gov. Ed Rendell projected a “fairly significant” victory for Sen. Clinton tonight on the order of seven or eight points. And “a ten point victory would be extraordinary.”
Posted by: greg | April 22, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
‘Obama is afraid to debate Hillary again. He knows now that the moderators are seeing thru his fake persona and are asking the “vetting” questions that he doesn’t want to answer.’
I have no problem with another debate provided that they stick to issues that matter. Economy, War in Iraq, Afganistan, Terrorism,etc…
Posted by: Vote Your Concience | April 22, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Platitudes and Attitudes… but Obama still can not close the deal!
Prediction: Hillary by 15
Posted by: FRedStates | April 22, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Obama will get the African American vote. The African Americans don’t care about the issues, in general, its that a black man is running for President. It doesn’t matter, their vote is not enough to carry Obama to victory….Hillary will win Pennsylvania in a BIG way and I see the crack in the Obama dam widening and the truth about him is about to come forth and Hillary will be the nominee! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Observer…….please tell me what Obama has in store for us
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
The only change obama has brought is more racial hated to this country! Boy, he is some “uniter”! Hope? I hope whites wake the hell up before they wind up paying billions in slave reparations. Call Rev Wright, his spritual advisor, he’s a big advocate of reparations.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
OMG – PEOPLE WAKE UP!! All this talk of “breaking rules” when the REAL POPULATION STATS POINT TO A LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR THE GOP IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE!! THE CROSSOVERS AND INDEPENDENTS ARE GOING TO GIVE MCCAIN THE WHITE HOUSE!! CAN WE SURVIVE ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF BS???!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: fairnews08 | April 22, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
To “vote your conscience”….America has a RIGHT to know Obama’s connections with Wright, Rezko, the Hamas endorsement, the flag pin, his lying on NAFTA, his lying about receiving money from lobbyists, sub prime lenders, his veiws on Christianity, being a Muslim, and the list go on and on….these are issues with the American public, whether you like it or not ! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Fairnews08…..you are exactly right! All the analysts say that Obama will be easier for the GOP to defeat in the fall than Clinton. Keep voting for Obama….a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain ! Welcome to 4 more years of GOP domination….wake up, people! Vote Hillary ! She’s the stronger candidate and the GOP knows it! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
i don’t want a malotto running my countery.I AM FOR HILLARY IF THEN MCCAIN WILL BE MY NEXT PICK.
Posted by: delite820 | April 22, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
In my small town, I have talked to at least 50 people about this election and not one has come out and said they would vote for Senator Obama. Many said he was not experienced, others thought his brand of politics were not in the best interest of our country. The phone callers and poll takers do not care about small town America so our opinions are not aired before the election. When I lived in a large city in a upper-middle class neighborhood, I would receive several phone calls a week wanting an opinion expressed. Not here–not one phone call—not one brochure at my door. Guess rural America does not count any more.
Posted by: Mary Oklahoma | April 22, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
He should wait for 4 years and “change” his name to something like…..Joe or Bob or anything besides Hussein. For anyone to believe that he is not a closet muslim, considering his ties to Louis Farrkhan and the Nation of Islam, Rev Wirght and Trinity they are victims of “STOCKHOLM SYNDROME” and 40 years of liberal brainwashing by the media? Anyone ever notice that black are 13% of the pop> but are in 75% of ALL COMMERCIALS RUN BY ADVERTISERS? They always position the blacks in authority characters. ALWAYS. Vote for once white America with a clear mind and understand that obamba is not your buddy/best friend like they show you on t.v.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
i don’t want a malotto running my countery.I AM FOR HILLARY IF THEN MCCAIN WILL BE MY NEXT PICK.
Posted by: delite820 | April 22, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
White people don’t have the nerve to tell the pollsters that they won’t vote for obama because of his race/religion but for fear of being called the “r” word….but when those curtains close they will pull the handle for what’s best for this country.
You obama cult members need to understand that fact.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
VYC – I agree.Why is it that Obama has not given a candid interview to the campaign press corp for 10 day now?? Could it be that…uh…ah…uh…HE IS AFRAID TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK WORSE BECAUSE HE CAN’T ANSWER QUESTIONS WITHOUT A SCRIPT??! HOW DOES THE DNC THINK THAT OBAMA WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE VETERAN MCCAIN IN A GENERAL ELECTION DEBATE??!!! COME ON FINAL 10 AND SMACK DOWN PHONY OBAMA BACK TO HIS SHADY CHICAGO FRIENDS! Obama is NOT presidential material!!!!
Posted by: fairnews08 | April 22, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Jackt51, I’m not afraid of being called a racist by you or any of your ilk. I am not intimidated by that label like sissys like you are. When blacks vote 99% for a man because he is half black, I have no issues with voting against him because of it.
Get it?
You left wing nutjobs have not won an election yet, and you never will.
Call me racist, I call you a sissy.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Rick,
Thanks for personal address. I often wonder if these get read. For that thanks.
As for the issue of leaving before votes are counted. I too have been watching this primary closely and I have more often than not seen a candidate address a winning or losing speech to the audience from the next state. What I’m saying is that it is not atypical.
And, further, I’m pretty sure it’s a non-issue. Whether Hillary jumped a plane or Obama did. I think they are doing their dead level best not to waste time waiting….
But that’s my opinion. Thanks again for reading and responding.
Jerome
Posted by: Jerome | April 22, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I have listened to Obama and I still dont know what his plans are if he wins beside change. Hitler gave Germany change in the 1930s too. Change does not always mean something good
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Observer-keep this up and you’ll be my personal whippin boy!!This isn’t about race/religion – IT’S ABOUT QUALIFICATION AND OBAMA’S SLIM RESUME AND SPARSE VOTING RECORD (WHEN HE BOTHERED TO VOTE) IS GOING TO BE A BIG JOKE AGAINST VETERAN MCCAIN IN THE GE!!GET REAL DEMOCRATS – DON’T GIVE IT BACK TO THOSE SOB’S FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS- VOTE HRC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: fairnews08 | April 22, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
I hope the headlines read tomorrow “4 for 4″ for Hillary. but I won’t hold my breath.
The media I’m sure won’t do that!
Posted by: mary | April 22, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
I hope the headlines read tomorrow “4 for 4″ for Hillary. but I won’t hold my breath.
The media I’m sure won’t do that!
hillaryisourchoice.com
Posted by: MM | April 22, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
How nice of ABC to let us actually post (speak) with out deleting us. Unusual. Guess they know Hillary’s finally about to crash & burn?
Posted by: abcdebate | April 22, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
How nice of ABC to let us actually post (speak) with out deleting us. Unusual. Guess they know Hillary’s finally about to crash & burn?
Posted by: abcdebate | April 22, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Jerome (and Rick) — I don’t know if you remember, but scads of people (Chicago reporters, Michelle Obama, among them) were in Texas for hte Texas primary because everyone thought Obama would sew it up there. (That’s when the Chicago reporters jumped all over Obama about the Rezko house deal. As a suburban Chicagoan, who had been waiting and waiting for Obama to EVER answer questions about that, it was a wonder to behold, all those Chicago reporters who weren’t in awe of him a bit, actually having the nerve to press him. Fabulous…) But I digress. It was clear he was expecting a victory party that night — and with HIllary whumping him a good one in Ohio (I think she killed him there) and winning in Texas, he didn’t get it. She was in Ohio (I think), where she won big and he was in Texas where he … didn’t.
Posted by: Julie | April 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Hey Rick, Seems like forever. Scouring through the exits, there is some interesting and incongruous data. I think this may be a case where the exit data is flawed for whatever reason. At first glance, I would predict a Clinton win of 8-10 points powered by low income white voters in the west, and the high turnout of older voters. The new registrations and younger voters seem to be under-represented for some reason. An interesting night, indeed.
Posted by: Kevin | April 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
I changed from independent to democrat to vote against Obama today because he cannot be candid and is just a bunch of pomp
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Ok Hillary…this is it…the big day. The Day where you show all of us lifelong democrats you character and bow out before you permanently split the party. It is finished.
Posted by: abcdebate | April 22, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
to: david in texas
You act as if he is the onl;y one with personal baggage. He responds to these questions, and no one believes his responses. What good does it do for him (or any of the other candidates, for that matter) to keep responding, when no one listens?
Posted by: Vote Your Concience | April 22, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
“Obama, the Illinois senator bidding to become the first black president, was winning support from about nine in 10 blacks, a bit better than usual with a group he consistently dominates. Black voters were only about one in seven Pennsylvania voters, somewhat smaller than average in Democratic voting so far.”http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/primary_exit_poll;_ylt=ApwrDvJNKPlEWrJDjWbgcYth24cA
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
The only way Hillary will drop out is if her donations dry up
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
How about a debate where we have 2 subjects? The economy and the war(s) (for example) Let the candidates talke about these 2 issues for 2 hours really dig about what they would do, where they stand. Then the next debate, we talk about 3 more issues, say the gas price and Guns and NAFTA…
Posted by: Vote Your Concience | April 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I hear the fat lady! And, she is Sing’n. “Yes we can, Yes we can”. Can ya hear her? “Nani Nani Boo Boo!” Nani Nani Boo Hoo!
Posted by: abcdebate | April 22, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Hey Rick when do you think we will start seeing results coming in
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
People who have no lives recently discovered that Michelle Obama’s senior thesis had been “withdrawn” from the Princeton library until after the general election. How peculiar, these same terrible people wondered. The wait, however, ended recently when the Obama campaign sent Politico a copy of the 1985 thesis, titled “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community.” From the excerpts Politico features, it seems like a brilliant, personal analysis of the struggle to preserve, or disregard, “black identity” in a largely conservative, white environment (Princeton). So what are the terrible ways that the Republicans will use this college paper during the general election?
It’s pretty simple: she obviously hates white people and will never get along with them:
“My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my ‘blackness’ than ever before… I have found that at Princeton, no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my white professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don’t belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be black first and a student second.”
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Rick – On a positive note, I do see a big victory tonight for McCain, LOL.
Posted by: Kevin | April 22, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
thanks Rick
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Michelle obama:
““There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost.”
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Vote Your Conscience: Right On! Dam straight! Debate the issues that matter.
Posted by: abcdebate | April 22, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
MEAT AND POTATOES 1)Issues – Obama has already published a ‘how to’ plan TO SEE IT GO TO. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ and just pick the issues you want to view!
2)Experience- If you weigh it in terms action and envolvement then the Library of Congress records show Obama has done far more than Hillary. Ive posted the proof below but the link is:(thomas.loc.gov.) Now read this: Hillary 1st:
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
7. Designate August 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse University Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the
championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Men’s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford–firefighters who lost their
lives on duty. Only five of Clinton’s bills are more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11.
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
Senator Obama: Now, I would post those of Obama’s, but the list is too substantive, so I will mainly categorize them. During the first eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.
He introduced:
233 regarding healthcare reform;
125 on poverty and public assistance;
112 crime fighting bills;
97 economic bills;
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills;
21 ethics reform bills;
15 gun control; and
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006–became law,
Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat
Reduction Act–became law,
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act–passed the Senate,
The 2007 Government Ethics Bill–became law,
The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill is In committee, and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1,096. There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.
An impressive record for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.
How does anyone conclude Hillary has more experience?
Posted by: Steward B. Clinton | April 22, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
What is she thinking? Michele Obama has pledged herself to the black community first and above all things in her future. So if she is the first lady then what? Does she keep this pledge and then do what with it?
These statements and the fact that she attended Rev. Wright’s church before Obama joined himself did raises a lot of questions. Michelle Obama is proud for the first time in her adult life of America? Gee, I wonder why. From the statements she has made in this thesis she does not care a whole lot about WHITE America that is for sure.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Obama’s personal baggage….he lies about his past and that’s why no one listens to him. He said he didn’t have affiiation with Wright, but yet, if you remember, he asked Wright not to be there when he announced his candidacy. He lied, he knew Wright was anti American after 20 years of supporting him! He lied about NAFTA, as his campaign has stated. He lied about Rezko and his dealings and taking money from him. He lied about Ayers and his association and support of him serving on numerous boards with him. He lied about taking money from lobbysist when they have donated millions to his campaign fund this past year. Hillary is right…..if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! He is unelectible and now, the Super Delegates are seeing him for who he really is……..Hillary will win the nomination. The Superd’s don’t want a weakling to represent the Deomcratic Party in November. Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david in texas | April 22, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
I admit to be cynical, but those exit polls are so biased it smacks of undo interference in the political process, absolutely absurd. Respondents were picked and chosen in an attempt to influence those that had not gone to the Polls. Underhanded, unetical, and ugly. They are so out of line and unbeliveable, this should be investigated.
Posted by: beau | April 22, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O’Shea.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
Right. Honoring black americans. Good job obama, how about asians, hispanics, whites?
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Doesn’t a crude analysis of the exit polls tell us that it’s Clinton 52% Obama 48%?
i.e., she has 47% of the male votes (42% of the total) plus 55% of the female votes (58% of the total) = 51.6%, while he has 53% of the 42% male votes plus 44% of the 58% females = 47.8%
Does only plus 4% mean it’s over, or not quite?
Posted by: AnthonyY | April 22, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I had decided not to vote but after witnessing the crudeness and dishonesty of the Clintons–i have to vote to keep them out of the white house
Posted by: ELI | April 22, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Tthe race drags on and OBAMA begins to show his true self and that is not nice. This is why the OBAMA campaign cancels debates because OBAMA is disclosing something that he is another politician and worse. Hillary is going to outlast OBAMA. Money has never been the main issue of election and election cannot be bought or else republican nominee will not be McCain.
Go Hillary, OBAMA is just a wimp.
HE CAN’T CHANGE CHICAGO POLITICS
HE CAN’T CHANGE REZKO & HIS CORRUPTIVE RING
HE CAN’T CHANGE REV WRIGHT & HIS CHURCH
HE IS DIVISIVE AND NOT DECISIVE IN CRITICAL MOMENT (HE VOTE 130 TIMES ‘PRESENCE’
HE IS SKITTISH AND WEAK
THE LAST DEBATE OPENS A BIG HOLE IN HIS CONNECTIONS AND PERSONALITY.
FLORIDA, MICHIGAN WILL COME BACK AND HAUNTS HIM. HE IS JUST A LOSER RUNNING ON AN ELITE LIMOUSIN SOON RUNNING OUT OF GAS (VOTERS SUPPORT)
Posted by: John_Lai | April 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
My dear American Friends:
As a Canadian citizen who has been watching your selecting of a Democratic candidate is looks very negative and dysfunctional just more of the same that we have here in Canada. It is DEFINATELY time for CHANGE please! I honestly do not need to hear or watch the you are the bad guy or girl and I in my self-righteous manner gloat over “I got the son-of-a-bitch”. Obama has have lowered his standards to the usual garbage. Let’s have CHANGE as the candidates have been saying they want.
Posted by: Jaqie | April 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
My dear American Friends:
As a Canadian citizen who has been watching your selecting of a Democratic candidate is looks very negative and dysfunctional just more of the same that we have here in Canada. It is DEFINATELY time for CHANGE please! I honestly do not need to hear or watch the you are the bad guy or girl and I in my self-righteous manner gloat over “I got the son-of-a-bitch”. Obama has have lowered his standards to the usual garbage. Let’s have CHANGE as the candidates have been saying they want.
Posted by: Jaqie | April 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
American Idol update: Brooke forgot the words.
Posted by: wolan | April 22, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
o lets see almost 60% of exit poll respondents say Hillary ran a more negative campaign than obama. so. the woman that is supposed to get 50% of the vote of 3 million should get 1.2 million votes and obama 1.8 million..not on this day or any other day. either that or the exit polls are correct Clinton will lose big time. or. Who cares if Hillary ran a negative campaign put a nail in obamas coffin. Could the haters be shifting?
Posted by: Beau | April 22, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
thank you so much rick, well said
thanks for being here tonight
Posted by: lori | April 22, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Fox News has just declared Hillary the winner!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 22, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
fox news is declaring Hillary the winner
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
what is the 65-35 business up there, is that the exit poll data?
Posted by: lori | April 22, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
MSNBC News has just declared Hillary the winner!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 22, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
So Rick if Fox is declaring already does that indicate a substantial victory or not
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
As has been the pattern before, Obama always gets higher exit polling numbers than he ends up getting in the real votes.
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Hillary needs to bow out.
Posted by: jeanne | April 22, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
LOL!!! obamaboy got CRUSHED 65%-35%
YAHOO!
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Goodnite, abcdebate??? I thought you would hang around for the After Party!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 22, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Whoooo hoooo! Fox News calls it for Hillary. Michael Barone says that exit polling had higher numbers for Obama than he’s actually getting.
Whoooo hoooo! You go sista!!
This ain’t over by a long shot!!
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
So I guess now the only question is by how much
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
ABC debate went over to cnn since that’s the only network that still kisses obamas ass these days.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
pennsylvania, so what? let’s meet in Indiana and N Carolina!
Obama 08!!!
Posted by: dave desmond | April 22, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
pennsylvania, so what? let’s meet in Indiana and N Carolina!
Obama 08!!!
Posted by: dave desmond | April 22, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Obama moving on to Indiana because this race is horrible for him and his after party will be depression city. He outspent Hillary 4 – 1 AND the media is 99% pro Obama.
Way to go Hillary!!!
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Ok, so now the real game actually begins. My guess is if she wins by 9 points then there is enough for her to go on two more weeks. 7 or under and it changes almost nothing. Obama makes up that percentage win in North Carolina and then brings everything to Indiana.
Eventually, this race ends with Barack winning in Denver. He will have the delegates, states, and likely the popular vote (spare me the FL and MI talk–you cannot change to rules now). The question is whether or not someone starts to move toward unity.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Senator Bob Casey on Fox now trying to spin this terrible loss for Obama. lol.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
“ABC debate went over to cnn since that’s the only network that still kisses obamas ass these days.”
Yeah, I guess she went to join the “Pity Party.” lol :D
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Tra la la la la lahhhhhhhhh – The Fat Lady Has Sung!
Outspent 3 to 1, 6 weeks on the Ground, with the MSM firmly behind him and Obama STILL couldn’t close the deal.
Thank You, Pennsylvania!!!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | April 22, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
The blather that Obama outspent Hillary in Pennsylvania and lost is a load of bunk. He was looking at 20 points plus as a deficit and he may actually cut it to 5 or 6 points. He has had to do that everywhere because of the Clinton name. To rely simply on the amount of money spent is an empty argument. It seems like it is money well spent.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
I can’t believe this. How can people continue to vote for a Clinton. As recently as today, Bill was caught again lying – lying knowingly in a negative attack against Barack, and knowing that it would not hit the news in time to influence voters.
Aren’t you all tired of this? Don’t you want something different? Someone you can trust in the Whitehouse? Don’t you want to know that the person leading the country tells us the truth? Do you really want the ’90′s repeated where everything is lies and spin?
Wake up – this woman will say anything to win – she has no integrity – she has no morals and she has no ethics.
Why should she move back into the Whitehouse when she stole everything she could on the way out 8 years ago.
Posted by: ParkCityChica | April 22, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
OH,NJ,NY,PA,FL,MI,CA,NM and MA-which will go to McCain over Obama becuase they can’t stand Patrick. Does the DNC have a death wish?
Posted by: geevill | April 22, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
It’s interesting to read the comments of the Obama-haters. It is as if some people either like him or they can’t stand him, using all sorts of negative comments, particularly about his pastor, J. Wright.
Wonder what would happen if we could have a face to face conversation with people who claim his pastor’s rhetoric has something to do with Obama, given that Obama has never said anything negative about America in his whole life. In fact, Wright is a _positive_ for Obama, shows Obama is not polarized by Wright’s rhetoric or by Bill Ayers’ background.
That’s what we want in a president, someone who doesn’t run away just because someone says or does something that is offensive. We think it’s a bit weird when people think Wright is such a big deal. We think those people weren’t going to vote for Obama to begin with.
Posted by: nick99 | April 22, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
So Hillary wins Penn, can Obama really be the right candidate for the Democrats when she keeps winning states. Clearly the Democrats are destoying their own party. This will make the Republicans take the white house again as it should be.
I am tired of these 2 democrats enough with all this bicking back and forth.
Posted by: Christina | April 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Whatever happens I’ll always be proud that I am supporting the person who is sincere, has more character in one finger than Hillary has in her entire body, is caring, intelligent and doesn’t have an ounce of hatred in his body, unlike some of these hateful Hillary and McCain supporters. You people are to be pitied. But that is the history of the world beginning with the people who hated Christ. No, Obama is not Christ but he certainly has Christian values and morals. Most of all he is not judgemental like so many of you. Yes, I am a liberal and am proud of it because I can experience the joy of diversity and I will always follow Obama because of his vision for this country and for the world. He has no built-in anomosity; he is genuine, American and an awesome human being. You hate mongers are as scary as the terrorists because you live right here in the midst of us. Shame on you for your bigotry and closemindedness! Support Hillary and McCain if you want -that is the American way, but don’t be hateful toward the man who has so many wonderful virtues and stop hating liberals for wanting to better the human condition.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Whatever happens I’ll always be proud that I am supporting the person who is sincere, has more character in one finger than Hillary has in her entire body, is caring, intelligent and doesn’t have an ounce of hatred in his body, unlike some of these hateful Hillary and McCain supporters. You people are to be pitied. But that is the history of the world beginning with the people who hated Christ. No, Obama is not Christ but he certainly has Christian values and morals. Most of all he is not judgemental like so many of you. Yes, I am a liberal and am proud of it because I can experience the joy of diversity and I will always follow Obama because of his vision for this country and for the world. He has no built-in anomosity; he is genuine, American and an awesome human being. You hate mongers are as scary as the terrorists because you live right here in the midst of us. Shame on you for your bigotry and closemindedness! Support Hillary and McCain if you want -that is the American way, but don’t be hateful toward the man who has so many wonderful virtues and stop hating liberals for wanting to better the human condition.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
OH,NJ,NY,PA,FL,MI,CA,NM and MA-which will go to McCain over Obama because they can’t stand Patrick. Does the DNC have a death wish?
If you think that the Dems lose even half of those states then you know something that no one else knows. CA, NY, PA, NJ, MA, MI all stay blue.
By the Clinton’s metric, MN, WI, WA, IA, are all in trouble if she is the candidate.
Primaries matter only for delegates. Forget everything else. Who wins a primary does not guarantee they carry the state. Of the states Obama has won only about 4 have a chance to change (MO, CO, VA, ND). Of those Hillary can only be competitive in one. Barack can be competitive and maybe win all 4.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Hillary is right! Obama outspends her 3 or 4 to 1 but he still can’t close the deal. The Democrat party is being pushed further down the road of chaos…
http://www.FRedStates.com/ – your Anti-Obama HQ
Posted by: FRedStates | April 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
As a voter in the upcoming Indiana election I have to say that I am concerned about Obama’s electability. With the amount of money he spent if he looses by 10% or more I will definately vote for Clinton. If it’s only by 5% or less I will probably still vote for Obama. Have to wait and see.
Posted by: jim | April 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Viva Operation Chaos!
Posted by: U NO HOO | April 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Rick – Clinton seems to be racking up big margins in the rural counties and Obama’s margins are running tighter than expected in the big cities. As predicted, the Philly suburbs will prove crucial, especially the margins there. But, yes Clinton can continue to make her same argument. But actually, the results look to be as predicted, so I’d call it a push. The double dose of IN and NC in two weeks may prove the bellwether.
Posted by: Kevin | April 22, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
If the issue of race and racism are ever to be defeated, and equality become the norm for this nation, it must be confronted head on without doubt and pretty talk or silence.
The ugly truth is Obama cannot win the General election, because he is African American.
If this were 20yrs ago, HRC would not have a chance either.
Ironically while sexism seems to be the big problem in the media, racism in society trumps sexism any day of the week.
Before Obama can become president, before any African American can become president, the victories that lead to that triumph in the primaries CANNOT COME thanks to OVERWHELMING AfAm support, but BROAD support from all groups.
In this matter HRC wins hands down.
The ONLY demographic HRC loses completely is the AfAm demographic and youth voters which vote in pathetically small #s in the general.
If the Dems. want to win the General election, HRC is the only option.
You can’t bank hope. HRC is a general election victory, nothing else matters.
Posted by: jonathanseer | April 22, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
All the spin in the world will not change the real world reality of Hillary’s negatives come time for the general election. If Obama is weak, Clinton is so polarizing that she won’t win, come November… but it’s a moot point. Win or lose in November, Obama is the candidate, and Hillary will have no one to blame but herself. She blew this campaign from the get-go, and now she’s out of money, and has raised her negatives to new heights… so sad for Hill-Rod and the Big Dog.
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
obama’s hope is hype and we clintonites worry about the dollar and not the change there of. if dollar is protected “change” will take care of itself!!!
Go Hillary $$ Hillary $$$$
Posted by: Nimesh Dixit | April 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
OMG, Ten of million of dollars has been waisted for an unjust cause. People are starving around the world. At home, people are loosing their jobs, their homes….Yes, it is ugly but who says life is fair. Congrats to you, Mrs. Hillary. Well-put, the last man stands may well be a woman.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Obama is “hunkering down” now for the end run of the primaries – ah,la George W. Bush – refuse to debate, hide out from the press, and if the press happens to find you in the middle of a waffle, refuse to answer any questions! When will the DNC relent and allow the MI and FL votes to count? How much longer does Howard Dean and the DNC think they can allow Democratic anger to build until they completely destroy the democratic party? Is having the financial backing of George Soros and his Radical Left Wing Group Moveonorg. really worth it to the party? There aren’t any other Billionaires out there ready to pony up support for the democratic party? If Hillary has the gumption and guts to pull out a win when Obama had 6 WEEKS and 11 MILLION DOLLARS OF ADVERTISING to win, and could not, that should tell the superdelegates where Obama’s campaign is heading. The media has done everything in their power to pump Obama up – it reminds me of the Jim Carrey movie, The Truman Show – but it’s just not working boys. This is not made for tv movies, it’s real life and real problems, and Obama’s got big problems with who he associates with, who his friends are, what he really thinks of blue collar democrats, small town democrats, typical white people, women, hispanics, jews, catholics, lot of other religions offended by Black Theology, anyone over the age of 45, bowlers, and voters offended by candidates that give the finger to his opponent while doing a rap dance.! GO HILLARY 08!!!
Posted by: calli | April 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
People on Hillary’s team want to represent her with class. The media should investigate its own behavior and the media bias that has propelled Obama’s candidacy whether he wins the big states or not. How about if journalists just report the news? I think people’s emotions will subside a great deal.
Posted by: LonghornMama | April 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Shame on you for your bigotry and closemindedness!
——————-
Shame on you for supporting a black muslim liar.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Jim,
I would not worry about his electability based upon the primary season. John McCain is no Hillary Clinton. There are apples and oranges. Obama has been behind the 8 ball to start due to the Clinton name (brand?) Yet despite that he is ahead on all cards.
Obama will be fine and ironically better for this race.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Jim,
I would not worry about his electability based upon the primary season. John McCain is no Hillary Clinton. There are apples and oranges. Obama has been behind the 8 ball to start due to the Clinton name (brand?) Yet despite that he is ahead on all cards.
Obama will be fine and ironically better for this race.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
So what lady c. is saying is if you dont vote for Obama your a bigot and a hate monger if Obama is so christ like why did he attend a church where they preached hate and divisivness. Its because of people like you that I voted for Clinton
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
The ABC News spin of the PA primary is pure Clinton spin.
Why can’t Obama sew up the nomination? Because the Ed Rndell machine was hers to command, and she feels free to attack Obama without giving a damn about how much that would weaken him in the general, while Obama is more cautious.
The notion that Obama can’t win state HRC has won is just stupid — California, New York, New Jersey are not going to be won by McCain. Texas is surenot going to be won by Clinton, and almost certainly not by Obama.
Bottom line, HRC can’t catch Obama unless she convinces people he can’t win the general, and her scorchd earth campaign is designed to do just that. That ABC News is going along with this line-by-line is an editorial decision, but one I sure don’t respect.
Posted by: JP Timko | April 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Pick your own poison, Jackt51.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Wow… starting to look like a real Clinton blow out… if you consider the rural vote is expected much later than the urban vote, much of which has already been counted. Look for the margin… currently 53 to 47 to start widening!
Obama: Can’t close the deal!
http://www.FRedStates.com/ – your Anti-Obama HQ
Posted by: FRedStates | April 22, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Hillary’s negatives are about as real as the Pennsylvania exit Polls. Senator Clinton is a warm, intelligent, distingushed lady whose dedication to the American People if undeniable. Want to hate on someone hate on the man that is trying to buy an election. Reminds me of Mitt Romney with less hair.
Posted by: beau | April 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Nothing will change Obama’s profoundly bad karma. His friends, close associates, and corrupt Chicago political tactics will end his bid. PA is just the beginning of this eventuality. Hillary will win by between ten and fifteen percent, increasing both her delegates and popular votes. The supers know exactly what this means, and they WILL act on it.
It’s nothing to say what we can do, it’s infinitely more important to say what we have done and what we WILL do. HILLARY, YES WE WILL!!!
Posted by: Emily | April 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
I have no problem voting for an African-American but not this one
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
“Shame on you for your bigotry and closemindedness!——————-Shame on you for supporting a black muslim liar.”
Shame on you for being a Democrat.
Posted by: U NO HOO | April 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I wonder if Obama is bitter about the results and clinging to his gun? Watch out Michelle, daddy will be home soon! The chickens came home to roost.
Posted by: PAvoter | April 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Hey OBSERVER
Leave OBAMA alone, find something else to talk about dude.
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
How much money does Senator Clinton make off of this night. Is it enough to coninue all the way to end?
I am not sure she can do it with his war chest of 40 million.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Barack beats Hillary by miles in terms of honesty in the polls, yet people vote for Hillary. Yes, I guess we Democrats do shoot ourselves in the foot. Bypass the honest, trustworthy man with character and vote for the woman who wants the Presidency as a notch on her belt. Poor Pa., poor poor sad America. I guess we have been to the mountain and now we begin the descent. I don’t care, for myself. As a once middleclass (prior to Bush) woman, I have had some great experiences, but I worry for my two children and my future grandchildren. It’s because I love them so much that I wanted to have a president like Barack Obama as a model and advocate for their safety and wellbeing.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Barack beats Hillary by miles in terms of honesty in the polls, yet people vote for Hillary. Yes, I guess we Democrats do shoot ourselves in the foot. Bypass the honest, trustworthy man with character and vote for the woman who wants the Presidency as a notch on her belt. Poor Pa., poor poor sad America. I guess we have been to the mountain and now we begin the descent. I don’t care, for myself. As a once middleclass (prior to Bush) woman, I have had some great experiences, but I worry for my two children and my future grandchildren. It’s because I love them so much that I wanted to have a president like Barack Obama as a model and advocate for their safety and wellbeing.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
If Obama had done the right thing, he would have campaigned for Hillary, bringing in all the new voters and energizing the party – and then he could have spent some time LEARNING about the people in Washington he is going to have to deal with. The Democrats would have run away with landslide victories in the general election. But the cocky young man from Illinois thought he could take it all – and for all his talk of change, he is a politician just like the rest of them. How does he expect to waltz into the White House and change the hundreds of politicians he has to work with? “Hey guys, we’re doing it my way now.” Tsk, tsk – young, talented, but naive. Someday he might be president. But he is not prepared now. If he thinks the Clinton campaign has been tough on him, he has no idea what the Republicans will dish out.
rise, hillary….rise
Posted by: RiseHillaryRise | April 22, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Oh my after all the money spent by Obama what was it 11 mill and what does he have to show for it?
All that money and how many counties has he won in this race, the map sure does not look Obama friendly, like the train ran out of steam.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Hillary will prevail today and the left wing so called democrat and some monarch Kerry and Kennedy will understand what people up to.
Vote, support and volunteer for Hillary when you have an opportunity.
Posted by: usha | April 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
It doesn’t seem to make a difference how much money Obama has. He can out spend her 3 to 1 and he still looses big. Maybe it’s not how much money you raise but what your stances are. Hmm.
Posted by: Carl | April 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
“Hey OBSERVER
Leave OBAMA alone, find something else to talk about dude.”
————-
Why don’t you make me boy. What you gonna do, talk to me in caps? Your boy got crushed tonite tough luck antionette
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Unfortunately for almost everyone posting here, neither Hillary nor Barak are qualified leaders fo the USA. The cut-and-run approach, while popular among the moveon.org communists, will not sell across America. The moveon-ers should indeed move on to Canada or France or somewhere where they fit in. Leaving the world to the terrorists is not the answer! Clinton weakening the CIA is what led to 9/11. Taking God out of our country is what has led to unprecedented teen pregnancies, record divorces, and increased abuse of women. McCain is the only candidate that has a true record of votinbg his concience, reaching across both sides of partisan politics, and maintaining our national defence. God protect us if someone like Obama takes control and starts caving in to Iran and runs from Al Queida in Iraq.
Posted by: IndependentVoter | April 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Lady C. what makes him so honest and trustworthy? Because he reads speeches that people write for him. Have another sip of kool-aid and post again I think they are a riot
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
SJ
The map for Obama is different. In reality he can actually make the Florida and Ohio not as important. If he focuses on the west, he will do better. Hillary is working on the same map where Kerry and Gore fell. She will to.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
What Obama’s campaign and the DNC failed to understand is that Obama has been mortally wounded by his relationship with Rev. Wright and his membership in his racist, anti-semitic, hate-mongering church. Obama and the DNC refuse to see that this is an issue that will not go away, and the Republicans will latch onto it in the fall, along with Obama’s other nefarious relationships with Rezko, Ayers, Khalidi, Said and others. Obama’s campaign is about hope and change, and his church is about hatred of whites and jews and diviseness. Obama spent 20 years in this church and the Rev. was one of his advisors on his campaign. Obama cannot get past this – his actions do not match his words. The DNC and superdelegates better wake up and smell the coffee and the waffles if they want a chance of a democrat in the White House before the end of the next decade. WAY TO GO HILLARY! THE BEST DEMOCRATIC FIGHTER EVER!
Posted by: rs | April 22, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Obama’s magic is fading. He’s doing worse than imagined in Philadelphia and seems to be loosing all demographic groups except blacks. In some counties, he’s trailing Clinton by 40%. To make things worse, the Conservative counties will come in late.
Posted by: Aston | April 22, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
THE CLINTONS REALLY TAKE THE AVERAGE VOTERS AS STUPID HERDS who don’t know when they are being hustled
WHY DO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN KEEP SAYING THEY WON MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA when non of the candidates campaigned there and they all signed an agreement not to campaign and the delegates would not be seated.
WHY DOES THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN THINK THOSE VOTERS ARE STUPID????
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
NBC and CBS tell us that the Clinton Camp is concerned that the margin of victory will not what they would like. They will continue for sure, and spin it the best that they can.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 22, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
where do you find the results by county?
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
The dnc think fl and MI are stupid. So stupid that their votes can’t count. Hillary would be WAY ahead if not for that. I’m not eve a Hilary supporter but anyone can smell that rotten egg the dnc handed those states and their voters
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
That is the problem I don’t know who in there right minds feels that once you have 99% of the black vote you can win a GE, any one thinking that has to be daft, it just will not work that way PA is a perfect example of that.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Barack Obama may eventually win the nomination but he doesn’t have the ability to close the sale. he isn’t strong enough to win over someone like McCain who has Karl Rove as a major adviser. I will never forget what Rove did to McCain in South Carolina in 2000 when McCain wanted to be the candidate.
No, Barack Obama doesn’t have the strength to combat McCain. He will be another Stevenson.
Posted by: Margie | April 22, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
6 points seems to be holding for a while. That is not enough for Clinton to continue with this a big victory. it actually is a 14 point reduction from her previous leads.
My guess is it is 7 points at the end of the day. Enough to keep her in, but not the game changing win she needed.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
ny black that voted for obama based on his race ( or 1/2 i should say) is a bigger racist than he is. They should have their voting rights revoked.
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Jason stop drinking the kool-aid your candidate is in big trouble if he gets this nomination, they signs are there but like so many of you its time to take your blinkers off if you really want a Democrat to be the next president.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
I guess the people of Penn like thier guns and religion. I guess they don’t like elitist Harvard educated people chiding them for being anit illegal immigration
Posted by: Observer | April 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
The problem for Hillary in a GE is that she is a Clinton. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, brings out the red meat and donors for the RNC like running against a Clinton. I would guess McCain’s fundraising would be double if Hillary was in the lead right now.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
The problem for Hillary in a GE is that she is a Clinton. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, brings out the red meat and donors for the RNC like running against a Clinton. I would guess McCain’s fundraising would be double if Hillary was in the lead right now.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
(1)Why does everyone keep saying bama is black & white, the truth is 50%White, 43.75%Arab, 6.25%black……
(2)What is bama’s change policies? From bama’s book: ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
(3)Raila Odinga is bama’s 1st cousin, the one whom he has praised in his books & the one he went to Kenya to campaign for!..Here’s an email received from Kenya, [I have withheld their names for their safety.]…are Missionaries in Africa and can shed some light on one of our Presidential candidates.
—– Original Message —–
“We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence(over 350,000) and I don’t know the last count of the dead.Obama under “friends of Obama” gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in east germany . He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily.As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic,cyring rigged election if he doesn’t win and possibly cause a race war in America .
What we would like you to know is what the american press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fullfilllment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true muslim way. We have been working with them for 20 years this july! He is not an american as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad.All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by the mulsim infiltration into their countries. By the way. His true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won’t that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran!
God Bless you. Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our nation to withstand the same kind of assult that every nation, including America , is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya , not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive…..”
(4)Regarding the American flag and the National Athem Obama stated the following: “I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides, there are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression and the anthem itself conveys a war-like message”. [He doesn't want to take sides???? whose side would he take if he became president????] He also states that this is the only time you can vote for him as president…cough, cough
Hillary or McCain! NEVER bamababy!!!!
Posted by: CarolTate2 | April 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
LadyC? Are you for real? Obama has Christian values? He believes in abortion and even partial birth. Have you seen a partial abortion? Do you think Jesus would think it was ok to kill an innocent baby because it was an inconvenience? Many of the older generation were probably not planned but given a chance to live. I think the bible says, “Thou shalt not kill”. But maybe you think Obama is beyond following the word of God.
Posted by: ukiddinme | April 22, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Obama is not a Christian. No way. Who knows what he is. But his abortion stance (allowing a baby aborted who lives to just die with no intervention) is absolutely evil.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
nick 99, so you call obama backing out of the debate in n.c. not running? Oh please, and what do you call him flipping Hillary off the other day during one of his speakings? not to mention all the questions he will not answer regarding his beliefs about racism, being an american, being or not being a muslim,,,so many questions, no answers.
Posted by: razorbackette | April 22, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
OBSERVER
YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME!! I got your boy, u must think I’m BLACK, WELL GUESS WHAT I AM
and I don’t like your post on this forum.
You’re a bottom feeder spewing venomous hate. U really scared of the BLACK MAN HUH?? WELL YOU SHOULD BE.
But let me ask you something why you think you’RE in the elite WHITE RICH CLASS. YOU AINT!! THEY DON’T ACCEPT YOU DUDE. SO U JUST A Poor punk racist. BOY!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Well Rob, you seem to be making this personal which is sad, but as I said, I am proud to be an obama supporter. You really know nothing about the man. And please, I was not comparing him to Christ except to say that people responded this way to Christ also. I think that racism is alive and well in Pa. and as far as Rev. Wright – I have not walked in his shoes, but one thing I know is that these snippets were but a fraction of his ministry and I have read articles from religious leaders across the country who have praised this man. Obama repudiated his words, but why would anyone expect him to repudiate the man? That’s ridiculous. How many Catholics don’t agree with the Pope on some issues, but they still respect the man. You do not know what the African American history means to them – nor do I, but I respect that they have experiences which have shaped their emotions and feelings just as you and I have. Just respect other people and they will respect you. That is what my parents and my faith have taught me. And anyway, I don’t drink koolaid – I like Martinis.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Well Rob, you seem to be making this personal which is sad, but as I said, I am proud to be an obama supporter. You really know nothing about the man. And please, I was not comparing him to Christ except to say that people responded this way to Christ also. I think that racism is alive and well in Pa. and as far as Rev. Wright – I have not walked in his shoes, but one thing I know is that these snippets were but a fraction of his ministry and I have read articles from religious leaders across the country who have praised this man. Obama repudiated his words, but why would anyone expect him to repudiate the man? That’s ridiculous. How many Catholics don’t agree with the Pope on some issues, but they still respect the man. You do not know what the African American history means to them – nor do I, but I respect that they have experiences which have shaped their emotions and feelings just as you and I have. Just respect other people and they will respect you. That is what my parents and my faith have taught me. And anyway, I don’t drink koolaid – I like Martinis.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
SJ
Now this is just anecdotal, but let me give you a little piece of what could happen in November. I live in North Dakota and am from Montana originally. I have good friends in Colorado and relatives throughout the West.
Most of these people are Republicans, but old school conservatives, not Bush Neo-cons. They see the economy as a problem, want out of Iraq, and are worried bout their future. By in large they will vote for Obama over McCain but were overwhelming against Clinton. It is a visceral reaction.
Now admittedly I do not know everyone in these states nor am I claiming that I do. But, based upon my unscientific polling he reaches out in ways she cannot. More importantly, he can win where she cannot.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I guess the people of Penn like thier guns and religion. I guess they don’t like elitist Harvard educated people chiding them for being anit illegal immigration
Posted by: Observer | Apr 22, 2008 9:46:13 PM
DUDE SHUT UP!!!!!! DON’T U GET TIRED OF THAT GARBAGE CAN MOUTH OF YOURS STINKING LIKE AN UNUSED OUT HOUSE LOL LOL LOL
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
The sexist boys club is just not getting it. McCain is not that popular with the Republicans, and I have a lot of Republican girlfriends who will vote for Hillary in the GE rather than McCain. The media pundits have forgotten that this is a BIG DEAL to a lot of women (Democrat and Republican) to see the first woman president of the United States. Many Republicans are looking at 4 years of Hillary, and then they’ll get the White House back. After watching the way Hillary can fight, it’s highly unlikely that the Republicans and Karl Rove are going to have an easy time defeating her. Now Obama, he’s a wimpy piece of cake to devour in the general election! GO HILLARY 08!
Posted by: calli | April 22, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Carol you need to travel the world, this break down you giving on Obama make up is just words.
He is black or AA no one in the world is going to say here comes Obama the half white man, and if he goes back to his grandmothers home land they will say his father was a black African from Kenya, they will not even mention his mother, and embrace him as a African.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
OBSERVER
Hey who U voting for??
You’re always talking about somebody elses
candidate who are u voting for???
i THINK YOU MIGHT BE THE ONLY IDIOT THAT COMES TO THIS FORUM EVERYDAY JUST TO TALK BULL ABOUT OBAMA.
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
does anyone know when the Philly results will be in?
Posted by: Politiccalpeaceinamerica | April 22, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Be smart and sharp: Vote Hillary 08!
Posted by: julie | April 22, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Hamas is very bitter about Obama’s loss tonight, although they are still clinging to their guns and religion….
Posted by: rs | April 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
If the superdelegates go against the popular vote of the people and nominate Hillary, I’m moving to Canada. She’s just more of the same backroom politics, and I refuse to live through another Clinton presidency.
Posted by: Lorraine Bates | April 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Cali,
I am not being obtuse or rude so please do not take this wrong way, but if you do not mind, please disclose your age.
Hillary regularly wins the older generation of women, and rightly so. She represent the hopes and dreams of a generation of hard working and trailblazing women. But I do not think she resonates with women who are from gen x and gen y.
I am a junkie on this stuff so I would like to know if you, or anyone else, see the same things.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
rob,
Try the Democratic Party of your state. That was where I found county results in MD.
Posted by: magda | April 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
The Media has it all wrong regarding which candidate has won more states or the biggest states. First, you have to realize that this is the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. THIS IS NOT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. Both of these candidates (Obama/Hilary) are great candidates. People are having a difficult time deciding who will represent them because they are great candidates. Either one of these candidates will Beat John MCCAIN. The media is treating this race as the presidential race, but it is not. That is why it does not matter if Hilary won all the big states and Obama is ahead on superdelegates because in the presidential race, this will not matter. They will start all over and Hilary/Obama are going to have to win the big states and small states. The people that are voting for Hilary/Obama are democrats, and the democrats are still going to vote for them, but the question is will they be able to convince the Republicans to vote for them in these states. The ultimate decision on who will be our democratic nominee will be up to the SuperDelegates and they need to step up to the plate and decide, because this primary may go until June without any decision. Unfortunately we cannot have two winners and somebody is going to make the decision of which of these two candidates will be our Democratic Presidential Nominee. I am hoping that Obama is the candidate of choice.
Thanks
Posted by: chris | April 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Where is my VIDEO GAME MILITARY BOY “OBSERVER”
I NEED SOMEBODY TO PLAY THIS NEW PS3 “CALL OF DUTY 4″ game with.
Posted by: Antoin | April 22, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
There are many racists democrats parading in sheep clothing .The mere fact that Obama is referred to as a mulatto is just one example
Posted by: ELI | April 22, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Someone in this blog actually said Obama would win North Carolina only because he’s Black.
Is that somehow worse than losing Ohio and Pennsylvania because he’s Black?
I can’t believe the rampant racism in these two states is not THE story.
Signed – Ohio white girl, mid-40s
Posted by: TK Paul | April 22, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Hillary cares about one thing only. Winning at all costs. If she can’t win, she will take the Democratic party down with her. So be it. Destroy the Democratic Party, then the same for the Republicans… Hillary cannot win. She can only guarantee a win for McCain at this point by trashing Obama. You can talk about Obama’s asssociation with Wright all you want, but the list of questionabe Clinton associations is endless… Talk about Kool-Aid drinkers…
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
It’s a sad day indeed when the American people have to choose an American President from among a corrupt woman, a liberal extremist and an old man.
Posted by: Sick of it all | April 22, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
What amazes me is that Obama outspent Clinton 3 to 1 and still cannot win. What does that say about him. I’m with the Clinton or McCain group. His poor performance in the debate sealed the deal for me.
Posted by: ChrisA | April 22, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Jason.. sorry Charlie but you are wrong. Most Republicans I know will NEVER vote for Obama. He represents everything they do not. Although, they are not crazy about McCain they consider him the better choice of the three. With the animosity brewing between Hill and Bama they will also be sore losers and vote for McCain. So hands down he is going to win!
Posted by: itsjustme | April 22, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Remember folks the superdelegates could end this in a minute at any time…Stop and think…why aren’t they…too many questions about obama-too many negatives and unknowns and now the polls are showing McCain beating obama in many states we would need to win
Posted by: sandra | April 22, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Obama cares about one thing only. Winning at all costs. If he can’t win, he will take the Democratic party down with him. So be it. Destroy the Democratic Party, then the same for the Republicans… Obama cannot win. He can only guarantee a win for McCain at this point by trashing Hillary. You can talk about Obama’s asssociation with Wright all you want, but the list of other questionabe Obama associations is endless… Talk about Kool-Aid drinkers…
Vote Hillary 08!!
Posted by: sally | April 22, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
The money spent is not as important or alarming as some (I am taking tot you Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan!). It is not that important given the fact it was not an equal playing field coming in. As with most states Obama needed to come in and close the gap in these states. That makes the spending worthwhile. Had he not spent the amounts he spent, it could have been 15 to 20 points agian. A 6 to 7 point margin is a push because it changes very little by way of delegates and popular vote.
BTW is it just me or is it odd Hillary is speaking first. Normally the winner goes second.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
tahnks Magda
Posted by: rob | April 22, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Itsjustme,
First, like the name. And that is my point, from the people I know they would support Obama as opposed to McCain. But that is just me.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Be smart and sharp: Vote Hillary 08!
Posted by: julie | April 22, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
ahhhh i love this!!!! adding more fuel to the burning democratic fire!!! and to think, all of this fighting and stone throwing over basically the same canidate??!! only the democrats could do this….
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
90,668 votes
8 points
Keeps her in, but changes little (despite the campaing spin). Keep an eye on the exurbs. They are lst in and could break for Obama to lessen the above numbers.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
To Jason: I am of an age that as a young girl I vividly remember an ad on television that in part went “I can bring home the bacon and fry it up in the pan and never ever let you forget you’re a man, don’t remember what the ad was for. I had a teacher tell our class when I was 8 that a woman would never be president! It’s too bad that younger generation women don’t understand the sacrifices and lessons women have learned over the past 40 years, but Hillary is an example of a women who has led the way. Hillary is criticized and called every sexist name in the book, but she is a fighter who really believes in what she is doing and will keep fighting for the American people – in spite of what all the media pundits are saying tonight! GO HILLARY 08! PS – The Republican party is full of closet feminists!
Posted by: calli | April 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
GO HILLARY ! Hillary’s lead in double digits now ! Keep climbing, baby, you can do it!!!!! Hillary, can you say, “Madame, President?” Go Hillary 08 !!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Hillary 08!!!
The clear cut choice…
Posted by: rex | April 22, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Hillary Clinton: Public servant extraordinaire!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: hotdude | April 22, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
I agree with you Tim. I am an Obama supporter, but both of these candidates are great. They are going to bring this country around once he/she is president. We need to support the candidate that wins because he/she is going to have to beat McCain and that is the only chance for this country. Another Republican will only worsen our already failing economy.
Posted by: Chris | April 22, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
LadyC – Oh I see why you are making idiotic statements now. You are drunk off of your martinis. Just do us a favor and stay away from the voting booths.
Posted by: ukiddinme | April 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I am not waiting to her her crap.I am an IND but will not vote for this what ever she calls herself I will vote for Mc Cain…..Sad state of affairs that this wench got as far as she has…..Dirty Politics…that is Clinton’s
Posted by: h | April 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I HATE what Hillary is doing, and I HATE her supporters who parrot the same garbage.
She ran a bad campaign and once she was too far behind to win fairly she decided to trash him.
She is a flat out liar. Bill Clinton is a liar.
If Obama unloaded all the negative stuff we know about her on her in a harsh way she couldn’t get elected dog catcher even in NY or Arkansas.
But he hasn’t…because he’s better than that…and has been restrained.
I think he should go completely negative on her — including how after Monica — She and Bill had REVERAND JERAMIAH WRIGHT to the White House for Spiritual Advice.
It’s not that Obama isn’t tough…it’s that HE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN TRASHING PEOPLE — ESPECIALLY ANOTHER DEMOCRAT.
She doesn’t care as long as she wins…and she can’t which makes this even more disgusting.
Anyone who excuses her behavior is an evil idiot.
Posted by: TrollGoal | April 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
What amazes me is that Obama outspent Clinton 3 to 1 and still cannot win. What does that say about him. I’m with the Clinton or McCain group. His poor performance in the debate sealed the deal for me.
Hillary 08!!!
Posted by: hiya | April 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Sally I had to laugh at your post. I thought you were talking about Hillary. The Clintons are destroying their own legacy with their dirty tatics
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Be real! No one is for abortion! We are pro-choice. And why don’t you people get as upset with what happens to the living? Why aren’t you out everyday protesting the fact that thousands of children in THIS country are physically, emotionally and SEXUALLY abused each day. Where is your outrage and condemnation? Is it because you think it’s just black children? No, friends, it is black and white and hispanic and every other type of child. Be outraged about that!!! God is!! And so is Barack Obama. And where does this Muslim thing come from and what if he was? AS long as he has character and compassion, who cares what he is? God loves us all.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Be real! No one is for abortion! We are pro-choice. And why don’t you people get as upset with what happens to the living? Why aren’t you out everyday protesting the fact that thousands of children in THIS country are physically, emotionally and SEXUALLY abused each day. Where is your outrage and condemnation? Is it because you think it’s just black children? No, friends, it is black and white and hispanic and every other type of child. Be outraged about that!!! God is!! And so is Barack Obama. And where does this Muslim thing come from and what if he was? AS long as he has character and compassion, who cares what he is? God loves us all.
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I guess some of of Billerys backers forgot her recent statements.
If Iran attacks Israel, we will annihilate
Iran. Will by tried to stop the bin Laden leadership with a couple of missiles to Afghanistan. Two bush presidents tried in Iraq. That only leaves one choice for Hillary……Nuclear annihilation.
Remember she stated that a few days before Green Day…. If you planted a tree today or recycled you recyclables that is not going to stop her plan of ending a strife against those that attack our allies. Some one has to make up for Bill’s foreign policy mistakes. She would erase one black mark that way.
She has to announce her running mate now to win a nomination.
Cry on television and says it’s personal, then later on says she will annihilate a country. And most people should see through her and Bill’s exchange of differences to bring attention to the media the media.
Kind of like the land deal and the White House scandal of the Past….
Posted by: dave1949 | April 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
OBAMA OUTSPENT HILLARY 3 TO 1 AND STILL CAN’T CLOSE THE DEAL….THE REASON, CUZ HILLARY IS THE REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLL DEAL!!!! WAKE UP OBAMA SUPPORTERS, GET ON THE HILL TRAIN, IT’S ROLLING ALL THE WAY TO PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE! PRESIDENT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON !!!!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I HATE what Hillary is doing, and I HATE her supporters who parrot the same garbage.
She ran a bad campaign and once she was too far behind to win fairly she decided to trash him.
She is a flat out liar. Bill Clinton is a liar.
If Obama unloaded all the negative stuff we know about her on her in a harsh way she couldn’t get elected dog catcher even in NY or Arkansas.
But he hasn’t…because he’s better than that…and has been restrained.
I think he should go completely negative on her — including how after Monica — She and Bill had REVERAND JERAMIAH WRIGHT to the White House for Spiritual Advice.
It’s not that Obama isn’t tough…it’s that HE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN TRASHING PEOPLE — ESPECIALLY ANOTHER DEMOCRAT.
She doesn’t care as long as she wins…and she can’t which makes this even more disgusting.
Anyone who excuses her behavior is an evil idiot.
Posted by: TrollGoal | April 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I HATE what Obama is doing, and I HATE his supporters who parrot the same garbage.
He ran a bad campaign and he is too far behind to win fairly so he decided to trash her.
He is a flat out liar. Barack Obama is a liar.
Obama unloads all the negative stuff he knows about her and he still
can’t win.
.
Obama isn’t tough…
He doesn’t care as long as she wins…and he can’t which makes this even more disgusting.
Anyone who excuses his behavior is an evil idiot.
Hillary 08!!
Posted by: rita | April 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
sorry chris, you misunderstood me.. im a conservative. ( noticei didnt say republican) both these canidates are terrible for your party. mccain is not a very good one for the republicans, but im afraid the democratic party has really screwed you guys again. mccain isnt the ideal canidate believe me, but neither one of these socialists are going to be able to beat him in novemeber sorry. for your partys sake, you better at least hope for the liar, because obama REALLY wont stand a chance in the general.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
To Troalgoal…..na na na na, boo boo! We’ll let you on the Hill Train……it’s unstoppable, all the way to the White House! Hillary 08 !!!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Hillary will not get elected President. Although the people of PA can’t see the truth behind a dishonest, old-time politician, the rest of the US will, so goodbye Hil – you may continue to move the goalpost, but at the end of it all, you’re still a loser!
Posted by: Lulu | April 22, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Go Hillary 08!!! (all the way to the whitehouse!!)
Posted by: JulieMyers | April 22, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Calli,
Thank you the response. I am not sure if the younger generation does not understand the sacrifices, I just think they do not feel that they must vote by identity any more. As a person who went to college in the Clinton years, i can honestly see that myself and many of my friends and associates could care less if the President is a woman, man, or martian (well maybe not a martian). We want some one who understands what we face as the next generation.
Honestly, the problems of the baby boom generation do not translate well for gen x and gen y. Many of us have to make a choice between mortgage and paying student loans. We cannot afford to have children despite the fact we have two incomes. Speaking for myself, i do not believe that Senator Clinton understands the problems that are in the America today. For all of her retoric, she is not from the middle class.
The mere fact that Senator Obama just paid off his student loans resonates with my generation. the fact he comes from a mixed family and a single parent is the story of our generation. That is why he has caught steam and been able to co-opt the change dialogue form what should have been Senator Clinton’s campaign. The reason Obama speaks to us is because he proves that with hard work, optimism, and having you head on straight you can do anything regardless of your life story.
It is the American Dream and many of us want so desperately to believe.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Lorraine? You promise. I once remember big nosed Barbara Streisand said the same thing if Bush won the presidency and she is still here with her big nose. Sure was hoping to would hold to her promise. So I am sure you won’t be going anywhere. But remember one thing… don’t let the door hit you in the … on your way out.
Posted by: ukiddinme | April 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Obama will not get elected President. The people of PA can see the truth behind a dishonest, old-time politician, the rest of the US will also, so goodbye Obama – you may continue to move the goalpost, but at the end of it all, you’re still a loser!
Hillary 08!!
Posted by: rik | April 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
David, you sound like my 5 year old son. Oh and sorry Hillary won’t be the nominee. It’s was already determined that she would win Pa but that it wouldn’t matter.
Posted by: lulu | April 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
To lulu…..
Hillary will not get elected President. Although the people of PA can’t see the truth behind a dishonest, old-time politician, the rest of the US will, so goodbye Hil – you may continue to move the goalpost, but at the end of it all, you’re still a loser!
Lets see, Obama didn’t even dress out for the game, last I heard he was in the locker room hangin up his cleats! Go Hillary! The NEXT President of the United States! Obama supporters, learn to say, “Madame President!” GO HILLARY 08 !!!!!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
the tide is turning, she just said in her victory speech, and it is-the union vote went for hillary white women and white men and even little green men from mars!!!Its a great day to be a Hillary supporter…..
Posted by: sandra | April 22, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Real leaders answer questions no
matter how silly or stupid they
think they are!!!
Vote Hillary 08!!!
Posted by: riks | April 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
david, Hillary won’t even be the nominee so how can she win.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Real leaders don’t offend others!!!
Hillary 08!!!!
Posted by: riks | April 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Even CNN, the pro – Obama network is now saying he’s in danger of losing delegates recanting their endorsment and that he basically is imploding cuz he can’t close the deal…..he’s unelectable…! I LOVE IT ! Go Hillary !!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Still 8 points
118,753 votes
Most of Philly and Pitts in as well as many of the “Alabama Counties” Still waiting on the exurbs. Sticking to my 7 point prediction (could be 6 though) And around 125k votes.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Interesting how Obama skipped
town…
Go Hillary Clinton!!
Posted by: eev | April 22, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Ummm Mr. Klien.
Michigan and Florida don’t count.
Did you not get the memo?
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Lisa, you make me laugh…….LOLOLOLOL!!!! We have a seat for you on the Hill Train as well…..its ok, we know you were blinded by the empty suit…..now its time to back a REAL candidate! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Hillary, can you hear it? drip…drip…drip, it will just hurt a little in the end…
Posted by: Ken | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
ya know, all this talk about media bias on these canidates.. how about this for a change… listen to them speak on the issues, and then vote on them??? hmmm just a thought.. leave it to the democrats to believe there is a conspriracy in absolutely everything. wow.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Hillary won the Regan democrats NPB,Klein-have a drink-hell you might need the whole bottle-shes giving a great speech!!!
Posted by: sandra | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Time for Clinton to drop out. The only thing she’s ahead in is the number of pants suits. The math is against her; she can’t win.
Posted by: jbate | April 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Hillary can thank Disney->Rogert Iger->ABC News->George Stephanopoulos->Charlie Gibson, with an assist from Sean Hannity for this evening’s win!
They did the ugly, biased, dirty work for an equally disgusting candidate (Hillary) during the debate!
Bravo ABC! Take another dollar out of *petty* CASH!
Posted by: Danny99 | April 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
How will tonight effect Hillary Clinton being a VP for Obama? It will be a very short turn around time for VP nomination.
Posted by: Lou H | April 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
CNN, the pro – Obama network is now saying he’s in danger of losing delegates recanting their endorsment and that he basically is imploding cuz he can’t close the deal…..he’s unelectable…! I LOVE IT ! Go Hillary !!!!
Posted by: rockefeller | April 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
eev, didn’t Hillary do the same thing in NC…..skip town.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
YES!!! HILLARY KICKS OBAMA’S A** AGAIN IN ANOTHER BIG STATE. NOW TO ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOUR CANDIDATE HAS NOT WON “1″ OF THE BIG STATES NEEDED TO WIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION? OF COURSE YOU CAN’T, BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO BUSY SINGING AND CHANTING “YES WE CAN”.
ALL HILLARY SUPPORTERS GO ONLINE AND CONTRIBUTE TO HER CAMPAIGN TONITE. I JUST DID!
SIGNED,
AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR HILLARY!!
GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY 08!!!
Posted by: Eric | April 22, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
LadyC – First of all making all of your postings twice does not make us believe them. Once is quite enough. Secondly, God does love everyone and wants us to be his children. However, if you are not a child of God you will end up in a burning Hell. This is all explained in the bible. To be a Christian you have to act like one. I don’t think anyone wants children to be abused. But to deliberately vote to have innocent babies murdered is beyond comprehension. This does NOT go along the lines of what God says is a Christian. The bible also states, everyone that says, Lord Lord will NOT reach the kingdom of Heaven. Saying your are a Christian and being one are two entirely different things. Actions speak louder than words.. and Obama does not show actions of a Christian.
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Yeah, I noticed that Nobama got out of Pennsylvania really fast…..like a hurt puppy with his tail between his legs…..LOLOLOL!!!!! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Uh, Lisa…..North Carolina hasn’t voted yet….just like Obama, his supporters are misinformed…! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Obama is not done being scrutinized
- the bitter thing was a gift, the bad
debate was a gift. There is much
more dirt to come out on him
and his fraudulent campaign.
Go Hillary 08!!
Posted by: rick | April 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
That is true about the popular vote but Obama did not campaign in FL or MI. This again proves how Democrats shot themselves in the foot by not having FL and MI delegates count. I hope this is not how they will run the Country for the next four years. I thought Democrats were more flexible and Republicans liked rules.
Posted by: Lou H | April 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Clinton is ahead on Obama on only two things: number of pants suits and number of pounds. Bottom line, the broad can’t win. If she owes you money you’d better collect it now.
Posted by: jbate | April 22, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
That comment about the martinis almost made me chuckle, but it didn’t because it is so like the cheap shots that Hillary makes against a good and decent American. I can see why she appeals to you. She is the one who has turned this campaign so negative and I am so sad to read the comments. If we can’t support one another, how do we expect to establish peace in this world. Rather than talking about the issues, people are saying ugly things about candidates and one another. Good night! Enough is enough!
Posted by: Lady C | April 22, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
quite honestly Obama can’t stand the
heat….
Go Hillary 08!!!
Posted by: ruc | April 22, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
david, I think you are the one drinking the kool aid here. Hillary won’t be the nominee. The numbers just aren’t on her side. It’s funny how 160,000 changed their party to democrat. Why do you think they did that. Umm, I’m smelling Rush here.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
HILLARY WON PENNSYLIVANA. “HILLARY”08
Posted by: delite820 | April 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Go to hillaryclinton.com and contribute……support a WINNING candidate! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Lady and gentleman, nstead of pushing the red button, the president has skipped town. Should we call McCain for help since he is after all an American Hero? This is what happens when Hillary is not a nomimee. LOL.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Yes we will!!!! Hillary 08!!
Posted by: billclinton | April 22, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
As an aside,
Hillary won Pittsburgh by 10 points
Barack won Philly by close to 30 points.
In the delgate battle, which is what matters, Barack will net more out that area to offset the gaisn elsewhere.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
i agree with you lou h… after all this chaos is over, and the dems figure out who their nominee is gonna be, there is going to be chaos on the florida and michigan thing. that it “ruined the democratic process” for years and years. that to me, is amazing. why would they have ever let that happen??!! you watch how many are outraged after this is done because ” it wasnt democratic”.. ya knew it before you did it.. too bad. so sad. try thinking next time.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
”
Obama cares about one thing only. Winning at all costs. If he can’t win, he will take the Democratic party down with him. So be it. Destroy the Democratic Party, then the same for the Republicans… Obama cannot win. He can only guarantee a win for McCain at this point by trashing Hillary. You can talk about Obama’s asssociation with Wright all you want, but the list of other questionabe Obama associations is endless… Talk about Kool-Aid drinkers…
Vote Hillary 08!!”
Sally,
I am flattered that you would plagiarize my take. Pretty much like your candidate. No imagination of her own. Can’t win by the rules, so make them up as you go….Good luck stealing the nomination. Hope you’re happy voting for McCain in the G.E.; and living with the results…
Stop the Drama, Vote Obama!
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Sorry david, I meant SC and I can read just typed in the wrong keys. You can insult me all you want but it won’t matter. Hill just won’t win. Her negatives are just too high
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
ladyc – And just like your candidate Obama you leave town… to take Hillary’s line.. if you can’t take the heat.. get out of the kitchen!!
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Let’s get real. Everyone knows why Hilary won. Barack would not have won no matter how much money he spent or how hard he campaigned in the state of PA. I believe it is unfair to act like Hilary has accomplished something big when it was going to be handed to her no matter what. Barack seems to have run a close race. Everyone rooting for him should feel good about that. I support and congratulate him on his hard-fought effort in PA.
Posted by: CarolL | April 22, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Let’s get real. Everyone knows why Hilary won. Barack would not have won no matter how much money he spent or how hard he campaigned in the state of PA. I believe it is unfair to act like Hilary has accomplished something big when it was going to be handed to her no matter what. Barack seems to have run a close race. Everyone rooting for him should feel good about that. I support and congratulate him on his hard-fought effort in PA.
Posted by: CarolL | April 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Wow Democratic Unity!
Both Hillary and Obama used Mellencamp’s “This is Our Country” song at their speech!
Is their hope yet. :)
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Is it just me, or, ummm, was this a bad bastardazation of Obama’s New Hampshire concession speech? Abolistionist won the right to …? Women won the right to vote….? YES, We Will!? Come on, people. What is this?
Posted by: kelly | April 22, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
if everyone would just sit back for a second and look at the big picture.. THEY WILL ALL DO WHAT “IT TAKES” TO WIN!!!! why do you think that hillary started slinging mud as of late????!!! BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING, HAS A MINIMAL CHANCE OF WINNING ANYMORE, AND IS GOING DOWN SWINGING!!! obama would do it, hillary IS doing it, and mccain would do it. there politicians people. quit CHEERING on your canidate and look at the big picture. its not rocket science. and im a conservative. i dont support either one of these socialist. not a biased opinion for either one of them. just an observation.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
HILLARY BACK IN DOUBLE DIGITS….THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO RISE!!!!! GO HILLARY 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Let’s get real. Everyone knows why Hilary won. Barack would not have won no matter how much money he spent or how hard he campaigned in the state of PA.
TRUE: Obama is a loser…
Posted by: d | April 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT BARACK OBAMA IS
THE MODERN DAY VERSION OF ADOLF HITLER…ONLY WITH A BETTER TAN. IN GERMANY, AFTER WORLD WAR I, AND DURING THE DEPRESSION THE GERMAN PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO COPE WITH WIDESPREAD UNEMPLOYMENT, RUNAWAY INFLATION, AND SUBSEQUENT HUNGER AND HOPELESSNESS.
THE GERMAN PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR A
CHANGE…AND THEY GOT A CHANGE FOR SURE.
HITLER WAS DRIVEN BY HATE; AND BASED ON OBAMA’S PERSONAL ASSOCIATION MANY AMERICANS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT EVER VOTE FOR A RACIST WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING
Posted by: Gary Rolyot | April 22, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Obama speaks-looking for a small state to win, Montana-naw I know Montana-they all pack guns and hunt,alot of fine small town people, go to church, and will never vote that far left-Hillary picked up the moderate and conservitive vote in penn. Barrack finally acknowledges her win.
Posted by: sandra | April 22, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
CarolL? “Let’s get real. Everyone knows why Hilary won. Barack would not have won no matter how much money he spent or how hard he campaigned in the state of PA.” Please tell us why?
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
By giving Hillary a WIN in Pennsylvania, the Democrats of Pennsylvania prove that they are NOT DUMBOCRATs.
ONLY DUMBOCRATs think that you need NO EXPERIENCE and NO KNOWLEDGE to be the President of the United States and that all you need is a big BO mouth delivering speeches of change and change that BO has NOT produced in all his life and change he has NOT talked about all his life till he ran for President?
I did not even get an Interview the last time I applied for a job with no knowledge and no experience.
If Hillary is not the candidate, I will PROUDLY VOTE MCCAIN …. and PROUDLY JOIN RANKS WITH THE REPUBLICANS to vote in a President that has at least spent his time LEARNING from EXPERIENCE and from TIME …
OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT AN OPPORTUNIST OUT TO GRAB THE PRESIDENCY THAT HE HAS DONE NO WORK TO DESERVE.
And DONT get me going even more, you OBAMAMANIACs out there.
How dumb can a bunch of people be?
Posted by: HillaryOrMCCain | April 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
How much are you Hillary bloggers paid, I may want in. LOL Give it a rest. She won’t be the nominee. *yawn*
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
david, its ok to support your canidate, but cmon…are you serious here?!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Just had to tweak a little Mr. Klien thats all. After all a watershed would be a game changer, not a rule changer.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
and just a general question here.. make your ansewrs extremely short, just curious to see the answers i get from democrats: what is the most influential thing you are voting for? the issues or the canidate?
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Sandra,
I grew up in Montan and my family and friends are still there. Some parts of that state are like that, but the western part of the state is now more like Washington and Oregon. They are starting to get more power out in the part of the state. McCain will have to defend Montana if Obama is the candidate.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Obama giving his losing speech now.. so funny how he has only white men standing behind him. They don’t miss a trick do they?
Posted by: noyoucant | April 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
The exit polls are giving Clinton a win in almost every demographic by a spread of 20 to 30 percentage points; but then, how come her win is not reflecting accordingly…Statisticians and pundits??!!!
Posted by: TK | April 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
The margin is 55/45 for Hillary with 79% precints reported. The way I see it would be around 12%-15% for Hillary after all votes from the rural-urban will be counted.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Obama just paid off his student loans so he resonate with middle class? No. He climbed up his political ladder by associating with himself very shady persons. Without Rezko, Jones, Wright, he would not have been at today’s position. Middle class people have to work hard to earn everything they have today, Obamam didn’t have to do that. He simply asked Rezko to buy him a million dollar mansion, asked Jones to make him a senator, and asked Wright to make him a true black. Think about it, Obama’s entire career is built on those people. They are very influential to him. He used negative campaigns, collected lobbyist money when he ran for senator. He used procedural tactics to elbow out his democratic fellows, including the one who helped him up directly. All those stories are out there. Obama’s HOPE and Change campaign is all about tactics.
Obama only flip flop to pander the voters. Remember he said he would talk to all the world’s leaders including those who hated the US? but today, he said Carter meeting Hamas is a bad idea.
The trueth is the longer the campaign goes, more people will fall out of love with him. So, his entire campaign, built pretty much on “people “think” he is honest, people “feel” he is the right one, people “like” him”, will not go on. By November, the love will die down. More of his scandels will come out.
Posted by: Amy | April 22, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Congrats Hillary.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
and whats with the hillary/republican bullshit??!! are you people serious?! neither one of these canidates are anything even close to a republican on the issues?! whats the point of these statements?!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
By giving Hillary a WIN in Pennsylvania, the Democrats of Pennsylvania prove that they are NOT DUMBOCRATs.
ONLY DUMBOCRATs think that you need NO EXPERIENCE and NO KNOWLEDGE to be the President of the United States and that all you need is a big BO mouth delivering speeches of change and change that BO has NOT produced in all his life and change he has NOT talked about all his life till he ran for President?
I did not even get an Interview the last time I applied for a job with no knowledge and no experience.
If Hillary is not the candidate, I will PROUDLY VOTE MCCAIN …. and PROUDLY JOIN RANKS WITH THE REPUBLICANS to vote in a President that has at least spent his time LEARNING from EXPERIENCE and from TIME …
OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT AN OPPORTUNIST OUT TO GRAB THE PRESIDENCY THAT HE HAS DONE NO WORK TO DESERVE.
And DONT get me going even more, you OBAMAMANIACs out there.
How dumb can a bunch of people be?
I don’t know? How dumb were Republicans when they chose the less experienced Ronald Reagan over Bush 41? or when they picked Bush 43 or Al Gore or John Kerry? What were the headines in Europe in 2004? “How can 59.5 million Americans be so stupid?” Well, I guess you have your answer….
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Demo – Have you ever seen a ballgame won by one point? A win is a win. Bet if it was Obama winning by 56,000 votes you would be jumping for joy!
Posted by: noobamacult | April 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Hey Rick,
If you want to include Michigan and Florida why don’t you include OZ and Xanadu,as well. One thing I haven’t heard mentioned is that nearly 60% of the voters were female. What happened to all the talk that she needed to win a HUGE victory to make dent in the delegate race? That didn’t happen. It is just that much closer to being over. Add that to an actual HUGE victory for Obama in North Carolina in two weeks. Tell me how this is not over….
Posted by: bskahn | April 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Hey Rick,
If you want to include Michigan and Florida why don’t you include OZ and Xanadu,as well. One thing I haven’t heard mentioned is that nearly 60% of the voters were female. What happened to all the talk that she needed to win a HUGE victory to make dent in the delegate race? That didn’t happen. It is just that much closer to being over. Add that to an actual HUGE victory for Obama in North Carolina in two weeks. Tell me how this is not over….
Posted by: bskahn | April 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I understand that Clinton is now going to try the ‘popular vote’ argument…and I notice ABC has listed MI and FL in the numbers. What is deceptive here is that a calculation of the popular vote for those states who had caucuses has not been included. This leaves the numbers as deceptive, and certainly does not leave Clinton ahead in the popular vote – even after the PA primary.
Posted by: NanD | April 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
mtr,
Most of the rural votes are coming in already. The exurbs are left. Chester, Lancaster, Montgomery, and Bucks along with the remaining Philly votes are the prizes to watch now. Will likely stay in the 8 point range by the end.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
How could Obama outspend Clinton by so much and lose by 10%? Sounds like an issue to me. I’m sure the superdelegates are looking at this very closely.
Posted by: Chris | April 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
merle:Obama can’t win battleground states at all.When it comes time for the general election McCain will slaughter Obama if he is the nominee but he would not win against Hillary. I believe Hillary will be the nominee before after the primaries are over. I took a good look at his supporters and that was enough for me. What a difference between his and Hillary’s.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 22, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
canidate or issues? i ask again. what do you vote for people. canidate or issues?
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
The media just said Obama will beg for another superdelegates endorsement tomorrow.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
You, DUMBOCRATS out there, must think so little of the Presidency of the United States to think that a candidate need neither KNOWLEDGE or EXPERIENCE for the job !!!
Just a BIG mouth promising CHANGE … CHANGE that the BIG MOUTH has not even talked about, let alone brought about, till he decided to run for the Presidency.
You must think so little of America as a whole to even think that you would hand over the responsibility of the Presidency of the United States to someone who does not even want to spend 1 term as a U.S.Senator … and who started running for the Presidency just as soon as he got to the U.S.Senate.
The Presidency of the United States and the United States is dear to my heart and if Hillary who is CLEARLY THE BEST CANDIDATE here is not the nominee, you DUMBOCRATS deserve to lose the White House and we will work day and night to help MCCAIN win in November.
I will not vote for Obama even if Hillary bought me breakfast, lunch and dinner from now till November.
Get that, you DUMBOCRATs out there….
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I UNDERSTAND WHY DEMOCRATS ARE OFTEN TERMED THE DUMBOCRATS !!!
Posted by: GoHillary | April 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Obama gets 35,000 to attend one of his campaign rallies and is now down by 200,000 votes. Looks like he is a rock star not a presidential candidate.
Posted by: Bob | April 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
and did you people ever think of this…. maybe the money dosnt really matter as much as you make it out to be??!! heres the thing, why dont people just wacth what the canidates say on the issues and vote? why do you think the spending of money is the most important thing?????
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
WELL oBAMA IS NOT GOING TO WIN EITHER. hE’S HANDING THE JOB TO mCcAIN. hE HAS QUESTIONABLE ASSOCIATIONS AND HE CAN
NOT GO CRYING TO EVERYONE CONCERNING
WHAT THE MEAN OLE hILLARY IS SAYING.
WHAT A WIMP. I KNOW HE HAS SO MUCH CHARISMA BUT ME THINKS HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PREACHER.
LOOK AROUND AT WHO IS SUPPORTING HIM.
WAY TO GO hILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MARY | April 22, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Double didgits!!!!!!! That’s HUGE.
Posted by: Cara | April 22, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Given that Obama is expected to have this wide, if not wider victory in NC, it will be interesting to see if the superdelegates now wait until after Indiana.
Perhaps some want it done and some will just wait. I think that it will end in 2 weeks barring something odd.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obama could have won in a pre Fox, pre talk radio, pre internet era.
Because of all those things, it’s impossible for him to win a general election.
President McCain. It has a nice ring to it!
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
LOL Crisis, Obama doesn’t have to beg for super delegates, that would be Hillary. He has gained while she has lost
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Oh thank god Obama’s speech is over, having to listening to him is like getting a root canal.
Posted by: Jim | April 22, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
All the media slighting, insults, name-calling, condemnations, ridicule and even every one of the news anchors and each and every talking head on the TV attacking her; and every major news paper columnist insulting, trashing and ridiculing her, in spite of her own long time colleagues Sen. Kerry and Sen. Kennedy, Sen. Bill Bradley, Gov. Bill Richardson and may others betraying her and turning their backs on her and endorsing and campaigning for opponent─ the new kid on the block Sen. Obama─ in spite of shocking defeats and setbacks she had suffered, she had persevered, she had come back to show her power, and persistence, with more determination; more humbleness and grace. She’s my hero; my shinning knight in armor who fights relentlessly for us humble folk like us, the downtrodden and the disenfranchised, the shift workers, the poor, the immigrants, the ridiculed, the neglected; we the toilers for our hourly-wagers, the elderly and the disabled, she’s our champion! For us working people she cuts a heroic figure, because she keeps on fighting for us! With her determination and tenacity she had shown she’s more than ready to lead our great land; and with the help of humble folks like us─ not like snobs in the media, I know some of you in the media want to burn her on a stake, but at the end mark my words I know she will triumph over all adversity; I know she’s make history! Hillary Clinton is my Joan of Arc!
Posted by: charleychaplin | April 22, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
I bet Michelle Obama is one furious woman tonight. I hear she runs the show and is known to be quite the BIOOOCH.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Jason,my error. I am trying to search for a good deal on the Yamaha receiver while watching the results. Thanks for the updated. Hillary deserves at least 10 point tonight. I will cross my fingers but not clinging to my faith or my guns.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
yeah, just for conversations sake, as a conservative, i will say that if you vote for obama, your throwing your chances away for the white house. i dont try the reverse pscyhology bullshit on me. im not saying that because im scared of obama. just saying. as much as i despise both of these two canidates, mainly hillary because she has sooo much baggage/lies from her past, americans arent going to vote for obama because he has good looks, and charm. HE DOSNT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Obama will walk out of PA with a 600k popular vote lead and likely make up many of these gains in NC in 14 days.
She really needed a wipe out tonight to change the game. 10 point may be the margin and that is a healthy margin,
but it does little to change the actual dynamics under the rules of the race.
Interestingly enough, the New York Times editorial board seems to think that tonight was not that significant for Hillary. Take that for what it is worth.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
JIM, you are right … Not only do I MUTE him when he comes on, I cannot even stand to see that face anymore …
Just empty words, empty rhetoric, talking about change … and Change he has not talked about till he started running for Presidency … and change he has not brought about all his life either …
How STUPID can Obamamaniacs be?
OBAMAMANIACS are DUMBOCRATS , in CAPS too
Posted by: HateTheBOface | April 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
GG, 3-1 $ amount spent and still lost by 10 points? He should have spent 10-1. If only his supporters pumped in about $120M a month, he’d be able to close the deal. PA is not his fault – entirely theirs.
Posted by: esvida | April 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Jackt51: Jack, what happened to your Obama man tonight. He spent millions of dollars to end up losing. What a shame all that money wasted. The old saying is you can’t win them all and he will lose again. Its not over. Like Hillary said, why can’t he win a battleground state. He hasn’t won one yet and never will. So that will have the superdelegates thinking Obama cannot win against McCain but Hillary can.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 22, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
noobama, Hillary was expected to win Pa. So what’s up with your nasty comment about Michelle
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Michigan and Florida now come to the fore. Anyway its cut up should not deny Clinton the vote count in Florida specicallly: Florida was the most level playing field in the nomination process, it was not about bein cajoled, or led, or inundated with politcal propaganda,it was not about who had the biggest war chest, though obama did run some cable ads. Florida voters read, observed and voted for the person they thought would make the best President. If Florida voted over 20 times the result would be the same. Michigan is another story. I personally believe Edwards and Obama both knew they could not beat Senator Clinton and took the easy way out by removing their names from the ballot, which they did not have to do. Michigan should go to Hillary too, be magnanimous and give obama the votes Senator Clinton didn’t receive – even though obama and Edwards would have split those.
Posted by: Beau | April 22, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Obama could not spend his way to victory in PA. Seems like the comments from Michelle, Wright, Ayers and Obama have hurt him. Wah.
Posted by: Gerry | April 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
After reading this posts, most of these people are Repugs. Dems, if you want to win, just sign up for the Rush Limbaugh newsletter.
Posted by: kelly | April 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
mtr,
No problem. She may get the 10 points, but I am standing by my earlier prediction of 8 points at the end of the night.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Rick – Clinton will certainly claim the vote total win, but it still appears the delegate count will remain basically the same spread. So, in short, status quo, and now two more weeks of waiting until the (possibly) deciding test.
Posted by: Kevin | April 22, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
I don’t use this word lightly…not for anyone, but I HATE THIS BITCH.
Posted by: Derision | April 22, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Obama outspent 3:1 to Hillary and still can not win.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 22, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Florida and Michigan were not going to count and no one could campaign there. Hillary won on name alone. Everyone knew the rules. Keep them out unless there is an equal split ofdelegates and no popular vote. End of story.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
A good advice for OB camp: A hi-end Tele-prompter and a well-known English professor would be needed at the next debate if there is any.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
some of you people actually think rush limbaugh is to blame for this tonight?! ahhhh i love it!!! only a democrat would say that… lol vote obama!!!! make mccains victory a landslide in november!!!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Florida and Michigan will be counted only at the funeral of the Democratic Party…Hillary herself said the votes there should not count. It’s on tape…
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Why would Demo Rules and Mom First send the exact same post?
Posted by: Kelly | April 22, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Obama was closing in on Hillary… it was down 30 points… then suddenly polls started showing him pulling even… then came the Wright Stuff… the Bitter Blunder and the Terror Ties… I think this might have really hurt Obama… even among Democrats… if that’s true… imagine what that “baggage” will mean to moderates and independents in the general election!
http://www.FRedStates.com – Your anti-Obama HQ
Posted by: FRedStates | April 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Marianne, are you for real. Obama has been trailing Hillary in every state by at least 20 points. Hillary would not even be in this if it wasn’t for Bill and the Clinton name. Yet Obama has mananged to narrow the lead when he campaigns in each state. This was no victory for Hillary tonight.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
mmmm good point kelly… do i smell a left wing conspiracy here????!!!!!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Maybe a lot of people attended his rally just to take a look at him to see who he was, so he would not take too much on his drawing a huge crowd it say nothing, in the same way throwing out money does not win you votes either.
If Obama is beating his chest and saying look at my huge crowd he is a fool, just as in the same way he boast about getting new people to join the democrat party I wonder if he ever sits and thinks maybe they are joining just to vote against him.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
lisa, you must be delusional to think that a double digit victory is not a victory. Lay off the Kool-aid for a couple of weeks and try to get your senses back. Good luck dear.
Posted by: GrandmaJones | April 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
I AM A 200 % HILLARY SUPPORTER …
and this is as best I can do to not be “nasty” …
Obama for President is a “JOKE” …. NOT because he is black but because the Presidency of the United States is far too important a responsibility to be handed to someone none of us really know …. someone with NO EXPERIENCE and NO KNOWLEDGE …
Someone with associations with the likes of Rezko and Rev. Wright , not to mention more …
Maybe he does not hold their beliefs but who knows for sure now and who knows what else will crop up from now till November.
But is not the Presidency of the United States important enough to vote in someone whose patriotism we do not doubt …
DUMBOCRATs you all really are ….
Posted by: DumbocratsUAre | April 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Hillary is out of money, so you all had better be putting your money where your mouths are. Barak will recover 75% of the popular votes lost in PA in North Carolina. The numbers are heavily against her. Get our your credit cards and send you money to Hillary, so she won’t have to spend anymore of Bill’s $109 million….
Posted by: John | April 22, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
well dumbocratsuare, i really wouldnt get to carried away with the no knowledge statement.. if the democrats actually sat back and looked, these two dont really differ on the issues too much.. be careful on that one. thats whats so amazing here.. they basically say they want the same thing?!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
You know why Barack would not have won in PA no matter what. Race is an issue. Why do people continue to rant about Hilary being the most capable person to be elected president when she is no more qualified than Barack. Race has shown itself to be an important and ugly issue in PA, even several PA politicians have made that clear. Plus, Hilary and Bill knows it is be true. That is why that are able to get away with all of their lies and manipulations. But Barack will still become President of the United States, unless race proves to be more of an important factor than the economy, health care, or Iraq. I just hope that once he becomes the Democratic nominee, we can all still get along.
Posted by: CarolL | April 22, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
You know why Barack would not have won in PA no matter what. Race is an issue. Why do people continue to rant about Hilary being the most capable person to be elected president when she is no more qualified than Barack. Race has shown itself to be an important and ugly issue in PA, even several PA politicians have made that clear. Plus, Hilary and Bill knows it is be true. That is why that are able to get away with all of their lies and manipulations. But Barack will still become President of the United States, unless race proves to be more of an important factor than the economy, health care, or Iraq. I just hope that once he becomes the Democratic nominee, we can all still get along.
Posted by: CarolL | April 22, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Oh grandamaJones, I am not delusional. But I think you are. 10 points is a victory. But in the long run she won’t win the nomination. She is so hated, sorry.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Derision,
You mean,,,,Michelle???
Posted by: Fakebama | April 22, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
basically the issue at hand here is.. do dems want to vote for a black guy or a washington insider white chick??!! you dems really got yourselves in another fine mess here.. lol
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
John you better check Hillary site donations are pouring in since the PA win, seems like some are getting the idea.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
YES SHE CAN!…YES SHE CAN!
GO TO HILLARYCLINTON.COM AND CONTRIBUTE NOW!!!
GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY 08!!!
Posted by: Eric | April 22, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Obama can’t get the blue collar, white male vote nor can he get the Catholic vote. This is a MAJOR concern come the GE if he is the nominee. The SuperD’s are going to look at this very closely. He outspent Clinton 3 to 1 in Pennsylvania, but he couldn’t close the deal. Plus, she is leading by 10+ points now. In the first hour after she won, she raised $500,000, just from internet contributions. She has the momentum. Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Let’s see Obama is for the poor people and wants an equal society. He wants the poor people to make as much money as the rich people. Yet, he spends millions and millions of dollars to try to win the presidency? Do you know how many poor people that would help? What a hypocrite. McCain had almost the least amount of money to spend and won the Rebublican nomination quite easily.
Posted by: obamastinks | April 22, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
lisa, Hillary is up by 208,000 votes in PA. Now you say it is a victory but she is hated. Dear, do you attend Obama’s church by any chance? You need to get some sleep honey you seemed stressed.
Posted by: GrandmaJones | April 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
10% SWWWWWEEEEETTTT!!!
Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States. Yes she will!
And thanks for putting Bill on that stage. Thanks for being a family we can respect because you respect and love each other and you hold on.
Everyone is a fool in love, but a bigger fool when out of love. Thanks for letting it show.
That’s the kind of people I trust. They don’t give up on each other.
Posted by: len | April 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I believe in Hillary because I really believe the Clintons have demonstrated ALL THEIR lives that they care more for the average Joe than most politicians do … They have done so much more for the average Joe while in office and out of office.
They may have their shortcomings, but in the end, I trust them far more than I trust someone with just a BIG mouth talking change that he has not brought about all his life … and change he has not talked about till he started dreaming about being the President of the United States.
Only DUMBOCRATS will vote for BO … and I am no DUMBOCRAT …
I will not vote for Obama even if Hillary called me personally by phone to vote for him ..
So you DUMBOCRATs out there … a vote for Obama is a vote for MCCAIN.
Posted by: The33%HillarySupporters | April 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Well when the host long off it is time to go. Nite all.
Remember, PA is only one primary. The same questions about Hillary will arise if he wins NC by 10 to 15 points and Indiana is even. Tonight was big for Hillary, after all she has life to a point, but this ain’t the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 against the Yankees. Sometimes the hole is just to deep.
Later all.
Posted by: Jason | April 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Jason, you and John Edwards just prove our anti Obama, anti socialism point. If they can come from nothing and do it, THEN THE SYSTEM WORKS.
We don’t want Obama messing with the system because then EVERYONE will be failures and miserable together.
Say yes to America by saying NO to Obama.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
carol, if you want to have socialized health care, look at canandas health care system. thats what your voting for. if u want out of iraq right away, complete chaos with the u.s to blame. the economy can not be blamed on the republican party alone. and you think all of the things the dems want are free??!!! socialized health care? free college? the joke of a welfare system we have? you must love having the government babysit all of us and paying them in higher taxes. i on the other hand dont. idealists dont make good leaders.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
SJ…..YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! CNN JUST ANNOUNCED THAT HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN RAISED OVER 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED IN PA!
GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY 08!!!
Posted by: Eric | April 22, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Why can’t snob-ama close the deal? I think I answered my own question.
Posted by: ChrisA | April 22, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
The very last group of people I would want deciding who is our president is a bunch of college kids who have NO CLUE. They’re being indoctrinated every single day in class by leftwing college professors who couldn’t survive in the real world of tough competition if they lived for a million years.
So the fact that Obama has the “youth vote” is actually a strike against him and means NOTHING.
Posted by: N'Obama | April 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
I HATE what Hillary is doing, and I HATE her supporters who parrot the same garbage.
She ran a bad campaign and once she was too far behind to win fairly she decided to trash him.
She is a flat out liar. Bill Clinton is a liar.
If Obama unloaded all the negative stuff we know about her on her in a harsh way she couldn’t get elected dog catcher even in NY or Arkansas.
But he hasn’t…because he’s better than that…and has been restrained.
I think he should go completely negative on her — including how after Monica — She and Bill had REVERAND JERAMIAH WRIGHT to the White House for Spiritual Advice.
It’s not that Obama isn’t tough…it’s that HE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN TRASHING PEOPLE — ESPECIALLY ANOTHER DEMOCRAT.
She doesn’t care as long as she wins…and she can’t which makes this even more disgusting.
Anyone who excuses her behavior is an evil idiot.
Posted by: TrollGoal | April 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
David should I play the violin. You guys crack me up. Everyone knew Hillary would win Pa and you guys are jumping for joy. But this doesn’t change anything for her. The superdelegates just won’t go for her
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
please tell me what the clintons did for the average joe???!! please explain…
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Yikes, I am from North Carolina and I DREAD the next two weeks with all of the commercials!! Sorry to say Obama will win our state because of the black vote. The same as South Carolina. However he will not win the General Election if nominated. McCain will and you can take that to the bank! Most of the whites here are registered Republicans that LOVE their religion and guns.
Posted by: nccitz | April 22, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Yes Hillary, drag it out to the convention, Please, please please…
Do what the Dems do best, self distruct !
Posted by: kneedermyer | April 22, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the moveon.org member’s homes all across the nation. Lots of sleepless nights tonight!
Posted by: Jo | April 22, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
All Obama care about are the perks of the Presidency … Running for Presidency just as soon as he got to the US Senate. Do you really think this guy cares about America or for you for that matter. What a joke !!
I can assure you he will not bring about any positive change that he talks about now …
How do I know ..? You judge a tree by its fruits …
What fruits has the Obama tree bore so far … NOTHING …. NO BEEF …
Obama for President is laughable … but sadly so only because the Presidency of the United States is not a laughing matter ..
GO HILLARY GO …. YOU NEED TO WIN, HILLARY FOR THE SAKE OF ALL OF US and for the America we all love.
Posted by: HillaryNow | April 22, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I am female and African-American. I root for Barack. Yet, either way I win. But for all of the males out there–watch out. Females haven’t forgotten how they still receive lower wages for some of the same jobs as males, or are passed over for most jobs perceived to be fit only for a man. We have suffered because of the prejudices against females. If Hilary were to win, wouldn’t you think that would change? Still, Barack will win and become president of the United States of America.
Posted by: CarolL | April 22, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
So CarolL you don’t think race was an issue in South Carolina? Geez you are truly slurping up the Kool-Aid. So it is NOT ok in PA but it is ok in SC. You are a typical Obama supporter.
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Anderson Cooper just announced that Hillary has collected 2.5 million dollars since it was announced she won Pennsylvania! Go Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Ouch! Talk about a spanking. Outspent 3 to 1 and still whooped him.
Posted by: Mack | April 22, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Oh come on Obama fans lets see PA has over 50/60 counties and all Obama could do after spending 11 million is hold on to 5/6?
Man if you don’t call that a win, or a time to celebrate I don’t know what is.
Obama said he was going to close the gap well am still waiting winning 5 out of 50 or 60 sure don’t look like that gap was close to me.
Posted by: SJ | April 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
GrandmaJones I think you need to get some sleep. Pa doesn’t matter in the long run hun. We want change, sorry you don’t. *yawn* I think you’re bed is calling you. I really hate your condescending tone. But that is what I expect from Hillary supporters
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
you think that either one of these canidates are going to help your “feminist” issues carol???!! get over it, as much of a minority issue your statements really are nowadays, this is simply not a presidential issue.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
The people of PA are just typical white people who are bitter and cling to their religion and guns. For the first time in their life they are proud of their country. I need to go to bed because the chickens are going to be coming home to roost soon!
Posted by: Concerned | April 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Obama!-no he didn’t. The unconvincing liar beat the racist black muslim socialist. You Democrats really know how to pick a nominee. What a bunch of losers.
Posted by: Sluggo | April 22, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Anderson Cooper just announced that Hillary has collected 2.5 million dollars since it was announced she won Pennsylvania! Go Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 22, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
I admit race was important–at least I can admit it. Now, won’t some others that voted for Hilary admit it? Either way, I win because I am female and African-American.
Posted by: CArolL | April 22, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
a little harsh sluggo, but i couldnt agree more. self destruction is again on the horizon. and they dont realize, the more you drag this all out, the worse they are making their chances.. lol
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Concerned, I really like you!
Posted by: nononobama | April 22, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Put the two together and you still be lacking leadership. Name onething they have done to be a leader.
Both bought and paid for by many others. Hillary is china and Obana is Russian. Come the day when media tell the truth on who behind who and why. In the meantime citizens are being forced out ouf homes and jobs are going away. We the people need to find better candidates an do away with the current parties we have both have sold us out.
Posted by: Carl Hoffman | April 22, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
All Obama bloggers please note Hillary is spelled H I L L A R Y.
Posted by: Cracker | April 22, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
carol, please for the benefit of your party, go to sleep. you are making dems look even worse with your statements.
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
lisa, there you go speaking about hate again. There are places you can go where people can help you get over your anger. Please try and get this resolved while you are young. I find that positive thinking helps keep me going. Good luck dear.
Posted by: GrandmaJones | April 22, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Well thank gawd someone is giving her money. How long will that last since she doesn’t know how to run her campaign. I’m sure it will be gone in no time. How do you think she will run this country.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
ahhhh you guys are too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you do realize they stand pretty much the same on the issues and you guys are fighting this much????? what are you people thinking? self destruction and i looooove it!!!!!
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
CarolL, the only thing you admitted was the ONLY reason Hillary won PA was because of race. You never mentioned the ONLY reason Obama won SC was because of race. Again, typical Obama supporter. You can play the race card but no one else can.
Posted by: tellthetruth | April 22, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Lisa, I have to agree with GrandmaJones. You do seem to have a lot of hate in you.
Posted by: Carol | April 22, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Jason, I’ve got my 10% for Hillary. Good night and God bless America! No pun intended as usual.
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
lmao Grandma, I am not angry at all. And I am not young. We may even be the same age. I do not like the Clintons. They will do whatever to win and I don’t like the negative politics and bully tactics that they use.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
oooh good one lisa, the clintons in fact WILL do anything to win. thus the mudslinging recently…. i will give hillary the ” im the fakest canidate” in the race.. cant belive she has supporeters to be honest. but obama is sooooo left wing in his beliefs. good choices democrats.. lol
Posted by: tim | April 22, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Ah Carol, what hate do I have.
Posted by: lisa | April 22, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Does it bother any of you Hillary supporters that the MSM describes you as uneducated blue collar workers. That’s elitism.
Posted by: Cracker | April 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Cracker, I think I will go to sleep. I sm tired and do have to get up and go to work in the morning. Just wondering about the name you used. Hmm, seems like you need a new name. I would like the most qualified person to win the presidential race. Did I say race? Let’s face it. We are in a recession and need a Democratic in the White House. I hope that everyone remembers that when it is time to choose between Barack and McCain. Good night.
Posted by: CarolL | April 23, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Cracker, I think I will go to sleep. I sm tired and do have to get up and go to work in the morning. Just wondering about the name you used. Hmm, seems like you need a new name. I would like the most qualified person to win the presidential race. Did I say race? Let’s face it. We are in a recession and need a Democratic in the White House. I hope that everyone remembers that when it is time to choose between Barack and McCain. Good night.
Posted by: CarolL | April 23, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Carol, you and grandma are one and the same poster. I’m sorry HIllary is done, don’t blame it on me
Posted by: lisa | April 23, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
I use Cracker for the same reason you don’t like it. Bust the sterotypes.
Posted by: Cracker | April 23, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Carol, do not be so hard on my dear lisa, she has some “issues”. lisa, I am going to bed now and think you should stop drinking and get some sleep yourself. I hope you feel better in the morning. Good luck finding a job dear. I’m rooting for you!
Posted by: GrandmaJones | April 23, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Obama supporters(OH-DUMBERS) are sore losers just like Obama. Hillary won big, get it? Your Obama is a BIG LOSER!!!!!
Hillary won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: swissdiver | April 23, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Well, PA came through for Hillary today and significantly I might add. And, when the DNC finally counts FL & MI votes as cast on January 29th, ABC News shows….
HILLARY AHEAD IN THE POPULAR VOTE!!!
It certainly gives the uncommitted Superdelegates to think about!
Posted by: LG - PA Voter | April 23, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Lisa says Hillary can’t run her campaign – Um, what? Quit drinking so much Kool-Aid, honey.
Last time I checked, Hillary just WON PA by 10!!!
Plus, NOBama outspent her and still lost. Hmm.. sounds to me like NOBama can’t run a campaign. I’m ready for the fallout on his side in the next few days..
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Cracker, I had to comment one last time. I am glad you are keeping it real. Please, encourage others like yourself to do the same.
Posted by: CarolL | April 23, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Grandma, exactly what issues do I have. You are so weird. I have a job. And why do you feel the need to pick on me. What have I done to you.
Posted by: lisa | April 23, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Let’s rejoice that Hillary won PA. Get real, she won’t be the nominee.
Posted by: lisa | April 23, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
can hillary just let it go
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Seems the HOPE campaign has been replaced by the HATE campaign.Who posts are just pure negative-obamatics, who rarely uses talking points about their candidate-obamatics, where is all the negativity coming from-obamatics-so many ticks-must be rocky mountain fever syndrome. Maybe if we put a match to your butt-you will fall off and find another host…
Posted by: sandra | April 23, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Hillary is a fighter.. I’m glad that she is going forward.. it shows she has the guts to pull this country back up. She has a plan.. she has experience.. merits that are required, not just “hope”.. sorry if that reality doesn’t fit into an idealistic little dream world.
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
For you people that think because Hillary said Fla. doesn’t count that Fla. doesn’t count. How about obama saying he would limit expenses in a General election? I believe the number was 89 Million and he signed a pledge. Do you think he will live with that? Hillary did not make that pledge. Kinda ties Demo hands doesn’t it. He can back out, but the Republicans will make him pay. Another thing the Super Delegates need to look at. He neeeds to outspend Hillary 3 to one to come withing 10 points of her. McCain will destroy him. Live with the pledge he is road kill. That’s what obama is cooking.
Posted by: Beau | April 23, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
sandra please came to the real world.THERE NO WAY FOR CLINTON TO CATCH OBAMA. AND ONE MORE THING DO NOT FORGET THAT THE CLINTONS STARTED RUNNING IN DECADES AGO PROVEN TO BE UNABLE TO BEAT A ROOKIE OR A SO CALLED “INEXPERIENCED ” CANDIDATE
PLEASE TELL HER TO JUST LET IT GO
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
To Toan, the Asian guy who made fun at me at another post couple days ago when I said that history tended to repeat itself and PA would be another Ohio. Hello, how are you tonight ?
Posted by: mtr2311 | April 23, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
obama says people “thought he’d be blown out” – he WAS blown out, 10% is a landslide. he lost by well over 200,000 votes. and he outspent her 3 to 1.
guess he thinks he did well. lol.
Posted by: so saddened | April 23, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
OF COURSE THAT HE DID WELL AGAINST A MACHINE THAT WAS IN PLACE DECADE AGO.
AND WHAT WAS THE POLL 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGo??????????????????
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Obama is damaged goods!!!! We as Democrats cannot afford to send him against McCain. He’s not a fighter like Clinton. Well educated and a nice guy doesn’t fit the bill as a viable candidate against McCain. Unfortunately, the fact that he is African-American does matter. Obviously, many white voters in Penn. did not vote for him because he is African-American. Even though most said it didn’t affect their vote. Who’s kidding who???? Imagine how this will play out with Republicans, who are even less likely to vote for an African-American. The Democrats had better start turning to Clinton soon, or Obama will be nominated and go down to defeat in November. That you take to the bank!!!
You so-called Superdelegates……are you listening?
Posted by: David | April 23, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
lisa says that pa. won’t matter in the long run. shows she’s one of those young obama supporters who has no clue how elections work. the dems MUST win pa to win the general. and obama has NO chance to win pa. in the general. (can’t even win it in the primary – add in the repubs and he’ll lose by 30 or 40 percent).
Posted by: so saddened | April 23, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
DAVID I THINK THAT YOU SMARTER THAN THAT IN BUYING INTO THAT KIND OF ARGUMENT
DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR CLINTON BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN.
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
Among Democrats Hillary is HATED.
%60 of Democrats do NOT TRUST her.
What does say about her and her electibility???????
Posted by: Tina | April 23, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
SAM states the Clinton machine started a decade ago. Funny thing, so did Obama’s.. do a little research regarding his “connections” with the Chicago political machine. But enough about “machines” let’s talk experience, tenacity, and solid plans for the future. In other words, let’s talk about Hillary and why she will be the nominee!
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
This win means nothing – Mathematically is impossible for her to WIN.
But I guess since 90% of people that vote for her are uneducated and old – they do not understand math.
All she is doing – ruining the chance for you democrats to win in GE.
Go Hill and Go directly to Hell – because that is where the country would go.
Posted by: Tina | April 23, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Obama people just dont get it… YES SHE WILL… you cannot have this nomination that is the end of it… she has talked about substance througout… Obama was part of the Change congress but has he helped get anything done? NO he started running for President immeadiately
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
TO PHX4HILL
THIS IS THE RUNNING FOR OBAMA IN PA
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TIMES THE CLINTON RAN IN PA????????????
YOU KNOW THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT THE PAST AGAINST THE FUTUR
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Um.. what? This win must have mattered since NObama spent so much in PA to try and beat her..
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
I think It is a fake victory. she still away byond Obama. I think it is better 4 her political future and 4 democratic party and the nation to accept to be a fighter with Obama not against him . I think it is better 4 Whole America to accept to be a vice-president with the new leader of the our great nation .SENATOR OBAMA . he is the leader and she is his major fighter.
GO OBAMA GO. and 4 the news industery you must also change ur way .stop ur offencive ways.be fair in dealing with the facts.
Posted by: fathi m. osman | April 23, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
At least Obama should know what time it is from now on… because tonight he certainly got his clock cleaned!
http://www.FRedStates.com – Your Anti Obama HQ
Posted by: FRedStates | April 23, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
I wish people instead of looking at this election like it is a baseball game, and just like a game their candidate has to win, they would think about our country and who can change the dynamic of 28 years Bush-Clinton dynisty.
I wish people would see through the fact the Hillary is ruining the chance of her party to win a GE again. Last time democrats lost to Republican was because of Bill and this time becasue of Hillary.
I wish people would think of a consequencs of their vote based on Race and gender.
I wish democtrat would see a once in life time leader in their party and would back him and won’t let a selfcenter woman ruin his chance and democratic chance to win.
But we know the next president is McCain – a republican Again. Thanks to Clintons again.
It makes me so sad to see this.
Posted by: Gina | April 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
ah now thats really brillant…. all the talk about Clintons uneducated supporters I think its a smokescreen… you Obamakins need to know that you cannnot have everything you want all the time… making the same mistakes of expecting invincibility that the Clintons did in 92…. Chelsea was right Hillary will be a better president than Bill… maybe you all relate to Obama cause you have had everythign given to you like he has… that doesnt get it… it is the process that does!!!!!!!
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
ah now thats really brillant…. all the talk about Clintons uneducated supporters I think its a smokescreen… you Obamakins need to know that you cannnot have everything you want all the time… making the same mistakes of expecting invincibility that the Clintons did in 92…. Chelsea was right Hillary will be a better president than Bill… maybe you all relate to Obama cause you have had everythign given to you like he has… that doesnt get it… it is the process that does!!!!!!!
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME FOR OBAMA TO RUN NATIONALY BUT HE good jugement to surround himself with the right people. ON ANOTHER HAND THE CLINTONS HAVE THE OLD MACHINE. WHAT IS THE RESULT?
THE ROOKIE CAMPAIGN IS AHEAD IN POPULAR VOTE AND DELEGATE COUNT.
AND TELL HILLARY WAS FIRST LADY OR A CABINET MEMBER
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Past against the future.. WTF kind of Kool-Aid drinking logic is that? We need an experienced candidate like Hillery.. One who knows how to get things done.. and with the ‘nads to actually vote yes/no and not just “present”.
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
exactly….its all an illusion…all this happy talk from Obama people theyve never had to be tough a day in their lives… you have to at least have a record to become president… Hillary does!
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
experience as first lady?
more experience than rumsfeld and cheney?
hillary need to let it go
Posted by: SAM | April 23, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
I am a republican who is ready for a change. Obama has inspired me something that clintons have never been able to do. His view of the world and our country is right on target. He understand this country – he is America – came from a middle class family and just by his intelligent got to where he is. His message of hope and unity is what this divided country need.
Clinton has no chances of winning – even if she steals his wins – she would lose in GE. I won’t vote for her.
What I love about my party something that you democrat never had and never will have is the unity inside the party.
McCain was not the first choice of the party but every body backed him up. What do you think Mike and Mitt could not stay in the race and do what clinton is doing to Obama, of course they could. But republican always are thinking of wining in GE (person is not important for them – winning in GE is their goal) and that’s why they are always winning.
Posted by: Gina | April 23, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
I will vote for Mccain over Obama and the exit polls said liek 25 pervent or so said they would do that too so I guess a repub supporting Obama nation is way out there! but that proves Obama cant win the gen election and somebody ought to tell Howard Dean to rethink his strategy
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Um.. If he surrounded himself with the right people, he would have been able to beat the so-called big bad machine in PA. Was Jeremiah Write part of the team? Will he be our nation’s spiritual advisor? Oh.. that would truly be a blessed “ObamaNation”
Posted by: phx4Hill | April 23, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
I AM A PROUD 100% BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN; MY GRANDPARENTS WERE SONS OF SLAVES.
AND BARACK OBAMA DOES NOT – IN ANY WAY – REPRESENT ME NOR MY FAMILY, NOR MY COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE HE REPRESENTS SOME THE WORST ASPECTS OF ANY RECENT LANDED IMMIGRANT, PUSHING FOR ACCEPTANCE, BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO BE LIKED.
WE DO NOT NEED HIM. WE DO NOT WANT HIM.
WE HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH, IT IS NOT FOR HIM TO RUN AWAY AND SQUANDER OUR HISTORY, OUR BELIEFS AND OUR FUTURE
OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN IS BEING SUPPORTED BY UNWORTHY PEOPLE – JUST LIKE THE OTHER CANDIDATES – BUT SOMETIMES IT ALMOST SEEMS THAT HE IS OUT TO PROVE HE IS THE MOST RADICAL OF THEM ALL! ( for example: Barack’s finger insult to Clinton was childish and outright counterproductive for our cause http://www.rapturealert.com/2008/041808thebird.asp ) .
NOT ONLY WE HAVE OUR DAILY STRUGGLE AGAINST A SYSTEM OF INJUSTICE…WE NOW HAVE TO ALSO REPAIR THE DAMAGE THAT BARACK HAS CAUSED !!
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT WHOM WE WOULD WANT FOR PRESIDENT, IF HE DOES WIN – WHICH WOULD APPEAR VERY LIKELY- IT WILL BRING US TWO STEPS BACK IN HISTORY, MEANING THAT HIS TRIUMPH WILL NOT TRANSLATE IN A TRIUMPH OF THE AVERAGE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND ONCE WE CHOOSE THE WRONG BLACK PRESIDENT WE WILL ALL BE LABELED ACCORDINGLY.
IF WE WERE TALKING COLIN POWELL OR CONDOLEEZZA RICE WE WOULD SUPPORT THEM FULL 100%…. WE FACE SUCH POOR CHOICES TODAY … BUT LET US NOT FALL IN TO THE TRAP OF THINKING THAT BARACK IS THE SOLUTION TO THE CENTURIES OF PRAYERS OF MANY BLACK AMERICANS.
Posted by: BlackTinkerBell | April 23, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
He has united the two parties. Republican, Independents, and young people are the one that will make or break the GE for Democrats. An overwelming majority of them are for obama. If Clinton by an impossible measure wins the nomination (since it is mathematically impossible and SD had to go against people vote for her to win) and their vote would be against Hillary. They do not belong to your party – they won’t be united to make the Democratic candidate that they don’t like to win. They want a change for this country and Hillary is not a change – she is a dynisty.
Just it is good to mention – %60 of demecrots do not trust her and if only %30 of them don’t vote for her – she has absolutly no chance.
Look at the pools coming out about this.
So instead of dismissing us – you should think about GE. But you are following you Queen Bee blindly and not looking at GE.
My vote is for McCain if Hillary is on the ticket.
Posted by: Gina | April 23, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
um…well down here in NC alot of people are very angry about Rev. Wright and the supposed “bomber” that is an aquaintance of Obamas from Hyde Park….Clinton didnt have a very good early strategy but Obama is on thin ice at this point
Posted by: Stan Grose | April 23, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
OBAMA IS THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
WE WILL NOT LET THIS IDIOT ENTER THE WHITE HOUSE.
HE IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND MUST BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY.
WE SHALL NOT LET OUR COUNTRY TURN TO RUIN WITHOUT A FIGHT TO THE LAST DROP OF BLOOD.
THE PACT IS SEALED.
—CITIZENS FOR A FREE AMERICA—-
NORTH CAROLINA CHAPTER
Posted by: Robert Candela | April 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
I am so proud of all the voters in this country. We are making our voices heard loud and clear! I am especially proud of Senator Hillary Clinton for standing up for all of us in the face of such uncertainty. Yes, “together we will turn promises into action, words will become solutions, hope will become reality.”
Oh and by the way, Clinton won PA, double digits, overtook Obama in the popular vote, and cut into demographics previously considered Obama strongholds. Examine the exit polls and see for yourself just how significant this win is in terms of electability!
Posted by: DCVoter | April 23, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Angry, delusion and bitter Obama’s fan
Obama loose talk cost him election and may as well cost him the presidency. I am like many thousands American fed up with his insensitive speeches on guns and religion and bitter speech, he has offended many and may never be forgiven, he hit us down below with speeches that cut and hurt more than blade, granted, speeches are his best weapon, but now may as well be his undoing and downfall. He shot himself more than on a foot, perhaps annoyed many followers…youths and adults alike. Where are your speech writers? Where are your peoples, mature politicians in your camp, did you ever seek for their opinions or comments and viewpoints? I am bleeding with anger for such carelessness speech?
He (Obama) need speech writers, under group of tested politicians, also, he must stop and ask for few trusted group of people to listen and critic his speeches before given it or made it to the public. He’s not a politician enough, which was clear naïve less experience his opponents are pointing to. I am not sure how he can convince many millions American for his thoughtless speech before the Penn’s State election, particularly on guns and bitterness and religion comments, it will never goes away.
Posted by: ray | April 23, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
CLINTON 2008
OBAMA 2012
CLINTON 2016 (CHELSEA)
OBAMA 2020 (MICHELLE)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: PeoplePowerPerson | April 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Ah so you are saying that both Clinton and Obama supporters will vote Mccain if their candidate doesnt get the nomination that proves my point…Obama cannot and will not win the GE…. Pres. Clinton maybe has a way of alienating people but his analysis is “spot on” as you in Obama nation like to say… Its a roll of the dice for Obama to become president… and with Hillary… perhaps like with Elenor Roosevelt and Bess Truman.. heck… even Abilgail adams for that matter… the presidents spouses are the wise ones…notice I said Presidents spouses because Obama cannot nor will he become president
Posted by: Stan Grose | April 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Dear Michelle, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infedility by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Well all of you – I hope you enjoy 4 years of McCain. Since that is what you are going to get. The longer the fight between democrats goes on the higher McCain chance would be to be the Next President of USA. So clinton fans do not worry at all- sleep well tonight – Obama won’t be the next president but neither will Hillary (she knows that – but she is doing all this so he won’t win either and she is suceeded).
McCain is the Next president of USA.
Mark my words.
Good night
Posted by: Gina | April 23, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
HELLO people,
As Sen. Hillary Clinton has ‘managed’ to take the Pennsylvania state, the Democratic race for nomination is very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates.
If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven’t done so yet, please write a message to each of your state’s superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com
It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Obama in office?!
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It’s that easy…
Clinton Supporters:
It takes a moment, but what’s a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?!
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it’s appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It’s that easy…
we’ll make it REALLY easy and include a list of names, addresses, and affiliations of superdelegates from each state including your state.
Posted by: Jack | April 23, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
RAY :
ARE YOU DRUNK??
ARE YOU MENTALLY IMPAIRED?
MOST PROBABLY YOU ARE NOT EVEN AMERICAN ..SO SHUT YOUR TRAP !!!!
Posted by: BlackTinkerBell | April 23, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Dear Michelle, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House WITH ANY INTERNS, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infidelity by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Dear Michelle Obama, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House WITH ANY INTERNS, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infidelity by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Dear Michelle Obama, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House WITH ANY INTERNS, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infidelity by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
STOP THE BICKERING WE HAVE THE SOLUTION :
CLINTON 2008
OBAMA 2012
OBAMA 2016 (MICHELLE)
CLINTON 2020 (CHELSEA)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO DEMOCRATS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Steven | April 23, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
I can’t eat, nor sleep since the so call “speech” Knowing fully well his (Barak)distractors will use it against him. Oh no!!!, I am bleeding internally
right now of regrets for him. How do we go from here there? Please help? “ANYBODY”
The effect of speeches on the people minds is indelible. We all need to think careful of what we says and how we says it. Remember, once it’s said, it cannot be undone, regardless of remorse that may follows. I am crying! and delusion with politicians all alike.
Posted by: ray | April 23, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Dear Michelle Obama, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House WITH ANY INTERNS, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infidelity by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
RAY :
SHUT UP YOU CRAZY NON-AMERICAN.
HIDE YOURSELF IN THE FURTHEST PLACE POSSIBLE IN YOUR CRUMMY LITTLE COUNTRY
IT´S NOT YOUR ELECTION …GET YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE.
MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
Posted by: PeoplePowerPerson for Barack | April 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Angry, delusion and bitter Obama’s fan
Obama loose talk cost him election and may as well cost him the presidency. I am like many thousands American fed up with his insensitive speeches on guns and religion and bitter speech, he has offended many and may never be forgiven, he hit us down below with speeches that cut and hurt more than blade, granted, speeches are his best weapon, but now may as well be his undoing and downfall. He shot himself more than on a foot, perhaps annoyed many followers…youths and adults alike. Where are your speech writers? Where are your peoples, mature politicians in your camp, did you ever seek for their opinions or comments and viewpoints? I am bleeding with anger for such carelessness speech?
He (Obama) need speech writers, under group of tested politicians, also, he must stop and ask for few trusted group of people to listen and critic his speeches before given it or made it to the public. He’s not a politician enough, which was clear naïve less experience his opponents are pointing to. I am not sure how he can convince many millions American for his thoughtless speech before the Penn’s State election, particularly on guns and bitterness and religion comments, it will never goes away.
I can’t eat, nor sleep since the so call “speech” Knowing fully well his (Barak) distractors will use it against him. Oh no! I am bleeding internally right now of regrets for him. How do we go from here there? Please help? “ANYBODY”
The effect of speeches on the people minds is indelible. We all need to think careful of what we say and how we say it. Remember, once it’s said, it cannot be undone, regardless of remorse that may follow. I am crying! Now I am delusion with politicians all alike. I hate politics of personal destruction and vindictiveness and winning by all means for what? Does it what it? When a
good name is destroyed, what else is matter?
Posted by: ray | April 23, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
INDEED IT IS VICTORY FOR OBAMA NO DOUBT.
THE CLINTONS HAVE BEEN COMPAIGNING FOR MONTHS. SHE LEADING OBAMA IN DOUBLE DEGITES. IF OBAMA HAS GOTTEN 45-55. I TERM IT AS A BIG VICTORY FOR HIM. HE CLESED THE GAP, FRANKLY SPEAKING. I AM ALSO CERTAIN THAT HE WILL BEAT HER IN NORTH CAROLINA AND INDIANA.
YES, WE CAN.
OBAMA ’08.
Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | April 23, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Angry, delusion and bitter Obama’s fan
Obama loose talk cost him election and may as well cost him the presidency. I am like many thousands American fed up with his insensitive speeches on guns and religion and bitter speech, he has offended many and may never be forgiven, he hit us down below with speeches that cut and hurt more than blade, granted, speeches are his best weapon, but now may as well be his undoing and downfall. He shot himself more than on a foot, perhaps annoyed many followers…youths and adults alike. Where are your speech writers? Where are your peoples, mature politicians in your camp, did you ever seek for their opinions or comments and viewpoints? I am bleeding with anger for such carelessness speech?
He (Senator Obama) need speech writers, under group of tested politicians, also, he must stop and ask for few trusted group of peoples to listen and critic his speeches before given it or made it to the public and stick with written speeches, impromptu speeches often get you in trouble I suspect. He’s not a politician enough, which was clear naïve less experience his opponents are pointing to. I am not sure how he can convince minds of many millions American for this sensitive speech before the Penn’s State election, particularly on guns and bitterness and clinging to religion comments, it will never goes away. I wish it was never uttered at all! Senator, please come out like a leader and a man (not without fault), and ask for forgiveness of whomsoever you have offended with that speech and mischaracterization that follows.
I can’t eat, nor sleep since the so call “speech” Knowing fully well his (Barak) distracters will use it against him. Oh no! I am bleeding internally right now of regrets for him. How do we go from here there? Please help? “ANYBODY”
The effect of speeches on the people minds is indelible. We all need to think careful of what we say and how we say it. Remember, once it’s said, it cannot be undone, regardless of remorse that may follow. I am crying! Now I am delusion with politicians all alike. I hate politics of personal destruction and vindictiveness and winning by all means for what? Does it worth it? When a good name is destroyed, what else is matter?
Posted by: ray | April 23, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
This is how elections play out…. a candidate that sticks to the issues vs a candidate that tries to be devisive and derisive from the get go.. Obama thought he could use the “Yes we can” rethoric… but after all it is just words not solutions and actions! Hillary will do the best job and will be a uniter… all the extra voters in the process is good… but its not good to take a candidates speeches and go on emotion… you have to back it up… and actions do speak louder than words because in ’00 and ’04 the nominees were creamed by the republicans for the image they portrayed… this will not happen again…
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Here comes the “Obama really won” spin. Right. A 10 point margin loss is still a win because he was able to close a 20 point deficit? Why was he ever 20 points behind in the first place especially being ahead in pledged delegates, states won and popular vote?
Obama is simply unelectable!
Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!
Posted by: LOM | April 23, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
Dear Michelle Obama, Of the many changes that you and Barack bring to the White House, one that I am quite proud of is that you and Barack are the only spouses each of you have had. I appreciate that Barack can say that, “if I’m elected, you won’t have to worry about finding my name on some prostitute’s mailing list, cause I love my wife. You won’t have to worry that any Shenanigans are going on in the White House WITH ANY INTERNS, cause, I love my wife. For too long and too often, the American people have had to endure infidelity by elected officials. Read my lips, I love my wife and my beautiful daughters and I promise you that as your President I will not pollute the White House with the infidelities that have haunted our politics for too long!
Think about how much your lovely marriage and fidelity mean to the American people! Only becuase of your strong and true love for each other are you able to confidently make such a statement. Well, if others can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen….as they say. Let’s talk about real American values! Let’s see which of the candidates can stay in that kitchen!!! GO OBAMA, YES WE CAN! 08
Posted by: nodevilsplease | April 23, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
So, what happened Obamamites? I just love the endless whining here and elsewhere on the net tonight.
Why don’t you give credit where credit is due? She whipped your candidate, even though she was outspent three to one and had endless cries from party leaders, CNN and much of MSM to drop out for weeks? Just let it go for a night why don’t you?
By the way, why do you think this is? You can whine all you want, but this democrat and many others just aren’t going to vote for BO. Exactly what has he done in the senate to deserve the presidency? What has he done for America? We don’t know this guy. Whether he loses to Clinton or McCain — and face it he will — I sincerely hope he will use the opportunity to do something for four or eight years, instead of just giving us mantras and excuses for being above debating.
Hillary ’08 or bust!
P.S. BO supporters — if you want to win some dems back and maybe some other moderates, why don’t you try toning down your verbage? Reading what y
Posted by: CK Canon | April 23, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Neither OB or HC will beat McCain. You Dem’s hate each other so much unless they both run on the same ticket you will vote for McCain because of your anger that your favorite didn’t win the Dem primary. Too funny… you are going to self destruct and hand it over to McCain. This is too easy.
Posted by: repubamer | April 23, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
There are many questions reporters, talk show hosts, and people are asking about the political race. They want to know what the candidates’ stand on the state of this country is and what they would do if they become president. The answers are always the same as they have always been with all the previous candidates in past elections. I think we all have heard them and have taken the answers into consideration of how we would vote for our next president. One of the things that has not been asked or I have not heard any comments on, is if anyone has had any polls of people that have already voted in the primaries in their states and have changed their minds on who they would vote as president. I myself am a democrat and would love to have a democrat for president, but I have to admit that I have changed my mind a few times on who I would vote for. This would be interesting to see if others have changed their minds. I would like to know if voters who voted for Senator Obama in the primary and change their minds to vote for Senator Clinton. Just the same I would like to see who voted for Senator Clinton changed their minds and will vote for Senator Obama.
Posted by: Vic | April 23, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
Good question Vic. Before all this started I would have happily voted for HRC or BO. Now I would only vote for HRC. If BO gets it, I may vote GOP first time in my life.
BO doesn’t deserve it. Hope, change, etc would have sounded good in my 20s, but I’ve got a mortgage and kids now. I need to know who is going to be the president of the U.S. better than we know BO.
Repubamer is correct too: I really hate BO supporters. They turned me off from BO in the first place. How can I support their candidate with all the hate they thrown on Hillary.
Hillary ’08 or bust!
Posted by: CK Canon | April 23, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Yea Obama supporters are over the top it reminds me of my blind support for Dukkais in ’88 (my first time voting) now I am older and have a job Ive been in for 10 years and have CC payemnts and car payments so speeches cannot hold a candle to action and solutions! I will vote for mccain if I have to but now it looks like Howard Dean… the real BO promoter cause he got forced out in ’04.. anyway he looks sorta silly now… talking about ‘silly season’… Id like to see BO come to NC and say that line with a straight face and get a whole bunch of blanks stares from folks in one of the orginal 13 states!!!!!!
Posted by: Stan Grose | April 23, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
This is what Dean really has a problem with. Obama cant win over the core voters of the country.
Both Clinton and Obama agreed that the decision of Florida and Michigan to move its primary forward meant their delegates would be stripped.
Neither of them or the DNC said they COULDNT hold their primary. That the votes WOULDNT be tallied and recorded.
They clearly stated the DELEGATES wouldnt count.
Nobody said you couldnt use the popular VOTE itself to make an arguement to super delegates . Its not a contingency ANYONE remotely prepared for.
So the delegates are cleary off limits, but the vote itself is fair game.
Nobody forced Obama to take his name off the ballot. He didnt see an argument about popular vote coming either.
Clinton has made it quite clear that if she is leading the popular vote after the primaries -including michigan and florida- she WONT drop out until they deal with the 2 states.
Dean must be heavily drinking at this point.
Posted by: tomdavie | April 23, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
Gov. Dean seems to always have had a drinking problem:) I did forget about the popular vote still countign even though counting the delegates in FL and Mi was banned… that makes the Clinton case even stronger…. I heard someone talking about popular vote undermmining Obamas argument but now it comes out of nowhere to be the case.. well not out of nowhere… you cant spend only 2 yrs in the senate and sortof mock the senate itself then go out to marin co cali and say that working class people cling to guns and religion and have antipathy towards people not like them… even at fundraisers in million dollar homes people dont use the word antipathy… my goodness was he holding a glass of wine with his pinky outstretched when he said that too ? lol its a no brainer now!
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
As an Independent, Obama is going to have some problems with the GE if he keeps losing by 10 in these states with high blue collar workers. Also the rumor that Clinton gains more of the uneducated vote…She actually got 49% of the college graduate vote, that’s in PA and OH.
Posted by: Ohplease! | April 23, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am
When is the press going to go after the story of where Obama’s REAL funding is comming from? I’ll give you a hint, she’s a talk show host and she is a bilionaire. And if this turns out to be true and verified, it’s illegal. There is more out there on Obama and the American people with the press need to find out who he really is. The last thing the American people need is for the press to finally do it’s job after it’s too late. Obama spent millions to beat Hillary in Pa and came up with a 10 point deficit, I wouldn’t call that a mandate. The American people are finally seeing Obama for who he truely is, just another elite politician that was spawned by another “elite” television personality.
Posted by: Tim | April 23, 2008, 5:58 am 5:58 am
Why do you have such a weird electoral system in the USA?.Have you ever considered having a primary election day where all the Democrats & Republicans throughout the US vote for their preferred nominee,may I suggest the 1st Tuesday in June.The candidate with most popular votes would become the party’s nominee.Come on guys this isn’t rocket science Just commonsense, and think of the money you guys would save!.
Posted by: Dave | April 23, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am
The News is not telling the truth. The Clinton’s have done it, they turned Obama into the black candidate. White America can’t see pass race. I’m a barber shop owner and at the beginnning of this nomimation most African-Americans were 50/50 for Clinton and Obama. Now 99.9% are for Obama, because of the negative talk of the Clinton’s. Alot of African-Americans are upset and said they will not vote for Hillary. And I agree! she will not get my vote!
Posted by: sharon | April 23, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
Hillery 50% Obama 45% and ABCs biased crap debate 5%. The media cracks me up. For 6 weeks they say Hillery is going to win by 5% to 15% and when she wins by 10% they try to portray it as a huge victory. Obamas goal in redneck Pa. was to close the gap and make Clinton spend money she did not have. Unless you buy the medias crap again he was successfull at doing just that.
Posted by: Jim | April 23, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Over 200,000 people more think Clinton should get the job of president, than BO, in Pennsylvania alone!
And that doesn’t count all the independents I talked to on the phone who said they wished they could have voted for Hillary, but that they don’t have a voice due to their independent status!
I hope the delegates consider this carefully…
Posted by: april | April 23, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
yea I think all the superdelegates shoulds reconsider at this point… I think some wingnut in thought that the results PA compelled them to go for Obama… what? and the Oprah for obana thing just adds to the conspiracy thing… stop the madness and give Hillary the nomination!
Posted by: Stan Grose | April 23, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Important factor of Hillary’s win in Penn is that Obama lost the momentum.. The NC is the only state he can win but given the low turn out of Blacks in Penn, they lost interest now to vote for him. The Blacks which gave him the solid votes will be shattered and his base will not hold in May 6. The base of Hillary will expand since the white male voters have stunnigly voted for her , a confidence that will spread to Indiana and NC. Brace yourself Obama supporters because the moment of truth is tearing your expectations about Obama.
Posted by: darnobama | April 23, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Interesting…… jhm
LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:
HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS
AFRICAN ‘FAMILY
HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHIEST, WHITE – WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS
KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE
GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT
BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA.
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE
WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL
HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN
GRANDPARENTS.
HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL
WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?
HE ‘WORKED’ AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A
PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST
NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE
HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE
HE IS PROUD OF HIS ‘AFRICAN HERITAGE’ BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN
CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND
DESERTED HER. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A ‘CULTURAL’ GENE. WHERE IS
THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?
HE GOES TO A ‘AFROCENTRIC’ CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND
BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS
AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH
HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO
BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!
NO, I DO NOT SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER,
I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
Pass this around, somebody ought to wake up and see the DISASTER that
appears just over the Horizon !!!!
Posted by: ARTHUR BURRIS | April 23, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Interesting…… jhm
LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:
HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS
AFRICAN ‘FAMILY
HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHIEST, WHITE – WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS
KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE
GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT
BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA.
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE
WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL
HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN
GRANDPARENTS.
HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL
WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?
HE ‘WORKED’ AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A
PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST
NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE
HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE
HE IS PROUD OF HIS ‘AFRICAN HERITAGE’ BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN
CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND
DESERTED HER. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A ‘CULTURAL’ GENE. WHERE IS
THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?
HE GOES TO A ‘AFROCENTRIC’ CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND
BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS
AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH
HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO
BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!
NO, I DO NOT SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER,
I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
Pass this around, somebody ought to wake up and see the DISASTER that
appears just over the Horizon !!!!
Posted by: ATHUR BURRIS | April 23, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
sharon – 99.9% are not for Obama. There are some of us who realize it is useless, irresponsible and stupid to put all of your eggs in one basket. Bill Clinton did not turn Obama into the black candidate. I believe that he was born that way thanks to his mom marrying and African. The truth is we live in a political climate that places AF-Am at the bottom of the totem pole. What illusion who make you think that all of sudden, he going to place in the most powerful office in the land. Obama is nothing more than a pawn on a political chess board control by Carl Rove and his Rep party to knock out the “Queen” and “King”. Ultimately, even though the majority of Af-Am are naive enough to think that Obama has a chance to win the general election there are some of us who realize that the only road that will provide us with a possible rope to be able to advance up the totem pole is through Hiliary Clinton. Start using your head, face reality and jump ship while there is still a window of opportunity.
Posted by: winningo853 | April 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I was pretty much in doubt about who vote for.. i am in Indiana, and we are going to be the next.. and i just decided i will vote for Hillary Clinton.. im not IN LOVE for her or anything.. but Obama speech is perfect.. and he never show anything concret.. we dont even know where he came from.. its just a mistery.
GO HILLARY -08
Posted by: Patrick Welshirp | April 23, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
POLLY FAIR
Love your comments. they were right on!
Posted by: cindyct | April 23, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Patrick..how old are you? Do you REALLY know Hillary? Do a little research BEFORE you vote…
Posted by: cindyct | April 23, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
POPULAR VOTE TOTALS:
Hillary’s popular vote: 15,095,663
Obama’s popular vote: 14,973,720
YOU GO, GIRL!!!!!!!! HILLARY 08!!!!!!!
Posted by: Veronica | April 23, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Today, the North Carolina Republican Party put a negative ad up showing Rev. Wright. Another ad is going up stating that Obama voted against a bill in Illinois that would crack down on gang violence. The implication is that he protects gang bangers. This is just the beginning folks! Obama is badly damaged, and I can’t see him winning in November. We had better get behind Hillary, or we will lose in November. As for Florida and Michigan, this screwed up Democratic Party created this mess, so they should fix it. Count the votes in Florida, and do a re-vote in Michigan. Unfortunately, Obama doesn’t agree with either one of these scenarios. Also, Obama doesn’t want to debate Hillary again. Gee, I wonder why! Could it be that he is afraid that he will lose another debate and more questions would come out about Rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, Bitter people, etc. We had better get behind Hillary soon!
Posted by: David | April 23, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Hillary Clinton isn’t in this race alone. She is doing it for everyone who was ever tempted to give up and take an easier path. She is a bright and shinning example to our children (boys and girls) about never giving up and never listening to the negative opinions of others. And, she inspires us and our mothers and grandmothers who are tempted to downshift as they approach 60. She is running circles around a much younger man who seems more bewildered and confused with each passing contest. (He just can’t understand that pretty words are not enough.
We need a tough, stand up fighting president (not someone who is afraid of the tough questions) with a list of accomplishments and a list of solutions. You go Hillary . . . for now we will cheer you on and send money to deep you fueled, then we will take heart from your grit and determination and get back in the race to make a difference in our own lives.
Posted by: Linda | April 23, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Hillary Clinton isn’t in this race alone. She is doing it for everyone who was ever tempted to give up and take an easier path. She is a bright and shinning example to our children (boys and girls) about never giving up and never listening to the negative opinions of others. And, she inspires us and our mothers and grandmothers who are tempted to downshift as they approach 60. She is running circles around a much younger man who seems more bewildered and confused with each passing contest. (He just can’t understand that pretty words are not enough.
We need a tough, stand up fighting president (not someone who is afraid of the tough questions) with a list of accomplishments and a list of solutions. You go Hillary . . . for now we will cheer you on and send money to deep you fueled, then we will take heart from your grit and determination and get back in the race to make a difference in our own lives.
Posted by: Linda | April 23, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Hey! The majority of African-Americans are voting for Obama. Why don’t the majority of whites vote for Hillary? The Af-Am’s are being racist by voting for him. When are the whites going to get their act together?
Posted by: David | April 23, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY WILL WIN!!!!
Posted by: Kim S | April 23, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
I think Hillary can win but the media went back to being negative debating percentage points who cares if its 10 or 9.3 or whatever… Obama has lost momentum and Hillary is far and away the clear choice! She will be in asheville,NC tomorrow night at a big venue so I hope it is packed!
Posted by: Stan G | April 23, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The far left wing of our party had better and is starting to pay attention to Hillary, because their candidate cannot win the general election. He has way too many questionable relationships and, quite frankly, scares the rest of “US” to death. Wake up Democrats, Independents and Reagan Democrats, America needs Hillary! Obama is finally being identified as the “empty suit” he is. He can’t win with we the mainstream of American. We simply must have a leader who will restore our standing in the world and here at home. Clearly, that is Hillary!!!
Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | April 24, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
The far left wing of our party had better and is starting to pay attention to Hillary, because their candidate cannot win the general election. He has way too many questionable relationships and, quite frankly, scares the rest of “US” to death. Wake up Democrats, Independents and Reagan Democrats, America needs Hillary! Obama is finally being identified as the “empty suit” he is. He can’t win with we the mainstream of American. We simply must have a leader who will restore our standing in the world and here at home. Clearly, that is Hillary!!!
Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | April 24, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Why can’t you post it? What is wrong with it? Do you like asking unfair question to Obama? Why can’t you balance the situation? Why is the media keep asking Obama unfair questions? George and Gibson did it in that Racist State of Pennsylvania. Why?
Do you understand how painful that is to the black people in this country. Are you a racist like Clintons?
Posted by: Andrew | April 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
The rev. Wright comes off in his PBS interview as “dignified, eloquent, and subdued”……just like Obama does when talking. Obviously, Wright is acting for the media now. But when he is behind closed doors, he says something quite different (just like Obama). I thinks we have two wolves in sheep clothing!!!! We had better support Hillary before this wolf gets the nomination and we lose in November.
Posted by: David | April 25, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Veronica I will have to correct you. Please pass on correct info. Thanks!
Not counting West Virginia
popular vote:
Obama 16,050,924 Hillary 15,336,896
Super delegates:
Obama 283 Hillary 275.5
Pledged delegates:
Obama 1591 Hillary 1426
YES WE CAN! YES WE WILL!
Overall delegates:
Obama 1874 Hillary 1701.5
Posted by: Kathy | May 13, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Mary O’Bryan I hope that you will be paying attention after the first week of June 2008.
Posted by: Kathy | May 13, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Kim S, HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY IS LOOSING!!!!
HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HAS LOST!!!!
Posted by: Kathy | May 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
I likely won’t blog as systematically as I did on say the Ohio Primary but I will try to offer some insights as I have time around observation playoff hockey. Just a quick glimpse at some of the exit polls.
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