Boss Backing Obama
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller and Nitya Venkataraman Report: Legendary rocker Bruce Springsteen is throwing his support behind the presidential bid of Sen. Barack Obama, calling the Illinois Democrat "head and shoulders above the rest".
In a letter to fans on his website, the Boss said Obama "speaks to the America I’ve envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that’s interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit."
"A place where ‘…nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone,’" the iconic musician continued in his letter, quoting from his 2007 song "Long Road Home".
Known for powerful lyrics that detail the struggles of the working class in small town America, Springsteen’s endorsement comes at a time when Obama is fighting accusations of elitism and being out of touch with small town voters.
Recent Obama "comments and relationships" the Boss says in his letter to fans "have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man’s life and vision…often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our constitution and the protection and enhancement of our environment."
Only time will tell if Springsteen hits "The Rising" and "The Promised Land" will still be staple songs at former president Bill Clinton’s campaign rallies for his wife. Following her wins in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island on March 4, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. celebrated with Springsteen song "Land of Hope and Dreams" overhead in the ballroom.
During the 1984 presidential election, the liberal rocker objected to Republican incumbent President Ronald Reagan using one of his best-known hits "Born in the U.S.A.", a song that gave voice to the struggles of Vietnam War veterans.
During the 2004 election, Springsteen performed in MoveOn.org’s Vote for Change tour campaiging with a coaltion of musicians against the reelection of President George Bush.
ABC News Sarah Amos contributed to this report
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Posted by: J | April 16, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Another billionaire for Obama.
The so-called boss was for Kerry and the other mega-liberals too.
The AFL-CIO endorsed Clinton.
Posted by: geevill | April 16, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
GO BRUCE!!
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Sam | April 16, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Doug, Just curious….who do you have in your music collection?
Posted by: indy_voter | April 16, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Well come on board Bruce. We love you!And thanks for sorting out your mind!
Posted by: Peace | April 16, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
This mans endorsement is actually exciting. I am not saying that people will run out and vote Obama now, but some of those men in a certain age groups who will always be a fan..(I also) will stop and notice, and think twice. The Boss pays close attention and feels deeply about policies and politics… He would not back just anyone, and he is down to earth with the rest of us when it comes to them. So yes, he has one up on HIllary…..
Posted by: Becky | April 16, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Didn’t the so called “Boss” endorse John Kerry too? Just curious!!!!!
Posted by: Someone | April 16, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Not all unions have endorsed Clinton
Posted by: ll | April 16, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Another misogynist bellies up behind Obama. The dream is dying.
Posted by: Sad&DisillusionedRocker | April 16, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
JamesC
I think you have pathological problems. really, go see a psychiatrist.
Posted by: Kevin | April 16, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Kevin,
Have you been smoking? Obama has taken absolutely NO lead… and that would soon be confirmed..
Posted by: DMK | April 16, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Bono, Sarandon, Penn, someones “Boss” NOT mine, and a whole host of other ultra liberal loonies! No surprise there .. have any real news??
Posted by: Bruce | April 16, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
DMK
Are you now telling us that PPD polls isn’t a reputable poll? PPD says Obama has taken a 3 point lead. Read it for yourself. You are capable of reading, right?
Posted by: Kevin | April 16, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
DMK
Are you still here, or busy dissecting the poll?
Posted by: Kevin | April 16, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
That’s a shocker .. keeping OR expanding his advantage with black voters?? Really? Wow!! Like the President of BET said .. “it’s comical that 94% of black voters support a man they know nothing about”! Ha ha.
PS
He’s a black man ..
Posted by: Bruce | April 16, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I said what I wanted to say.. I don’t care about ANY polls in general… So let’s wait till April 22. Hillary’s gonna win! And then you can take your poll and…
Posted by: DMK | April 16, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Yay, Bruce!
Go Obama!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 16, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Ok, so if we’ve ever listened to a Springsteen recording we are supposed to vote Obama? I could not believe the childish way Obama was acting the other day with the Annie Oakley speech and all the giggling and laughing because Hillary took a drink. I don’t care what he thinks of Hillary. He is supposed to act in a dignified manner. Could you see him acting that way in an audience with the Queen of England, or the Pope? I guess the disrepect he shows the other candidates and his elders is supposed to endear him to the young “highly educated” people who support him. As for Springsteen, it’s a good thing he typed his endorsement instead of singing it, otherwise no one would have been able to understand what he was saying.
Posted by: Melanie | April 16, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Who cares about Bruce anymore??! He’s so washed out! lol So I couldn’t care less about his endorsement… And why is this a story I don’t know…
Posted by: DMK | April 16, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
DMK
Good point. I don’t think Obama will win Pennsylvania. But i think the way Clinton played this “bitter” card has made the state tighter than it should be. She would have been best-served to let the press and republicans pound the issue for her. Now she looks desperate, negative, silly, and quite frankly, it feeds into the image that the Clintons are in this thing for the Clintons and will do ANYTHING to win. Not to mention they just pooped on white liberal elites like me. Now there are reports that her so-called “ordinary Pennsylvanians” in her ad are not all from Pennsylvania. What embarassment.
Posted by: Kevin | April 16, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Kevin, do not worry, DKM and his very elitist beloved candidate: Hillary the Bosnian General cannot read polls, they speak Bosnian and donot understand English. The only one thing Hill understands is the her FAT CATS in the Lincoln bedroom, the 109 million + 800 000 from Urube in Colombia to ship American jobs to Bogota and Cartagena . God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 16, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
You’re right, DMK. I support Obama, but think this endorsement is rubbish.
Posted by: Kevin | April 16, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Obama is the best and brightest hope we have for unity in this horribly divided, but beloved country of ours. Deny it all you wish, but Senator Obama is going to be the next President of these United States. He will have my complete support in trying to undo at least a modicum of damage Bushco has perpetrated upon all of us.
Barack, I wish you well.
Posted by: JAT | April 16, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Re: Polls. Polls are good for one thing. Without them, pollsters would have to look for jobs. So how many people were interviewede in this poll? 500, or 1000? How many millions of registered voters in PA? The polls said Obama had NH by 10 points the night before the election. That worked out well for him, didn’t it?
Posted by: Melanie | April 16, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Let’s face it. It was the kind of “mispeaking” that Hillary did that landed us in Iraq in the first place. Give Obama a break, he mispoke with a poor choice of words. On the otherhand, Hillary lied more than once and laughed in our faces doing it. I will vote for McCain before I vote for Hillary. But like Bruce I think Obama is sincere. He’s got my vote.
Posted by: sandra bridges | April 16, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
DMK
- “Who cares about Bruce anymore??! He’s so washed out!”
spoken like a true Hillary supporter…if he doesn’t support Hillary he no longer matters to the party… as far as an artist supporting someone is concerned …I think Bruce matters.
I guess Barbra is the only artist left that matters…haha. or the others who stayed in the Lincoln Bedroom with Bill and Hill.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Great endorsement for OBAMA. THIS IS ANOTHER MESSAGE FOR OF US WHO HAS NOT DECIDED YET. IT’S TIME TO GET INVOLVE. THANK YOU BOSS.
Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | April 16, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Tthe boss stands for the people. I like that he’s made a decision.
Posted by: white blue collar PA | April 16, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Ha. As I recall he campaigned for Kerry, how did that work out? Poor disallusioned democrats, making the same mistakes over and over and over. It would be funny, if it wasn’t so sad.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | April 16, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Hillary is being ousted by ultra-leftists. Reasonable democrats can still fight the scourge.
Fight back! VOTE NADER
Posted by: Turku Wren | April 16, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Kevin — The title of the poll you linked says “Clinton, Obama remain in statistical tie” so your claim here that Obama has taken a 3 point lead is false.
“Read it for yourself. You are capable of reading, right?”
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
…and for those who say polls don’t matter…I agree to some extent but this was supposed to be a blow out…remember… Murtha saying she is going to beat him by 20 points…lol…
Do you see the more stallwart dems and intelligent people get to meet Obama up close like Mr. Springsteen (or much of the press) they realize …the Clintons don’t look so good anymore.
It is only those who are intimidated, riding on the memory of her as their first lady and the undeclared queen of the party and/or counting on the the old boys netwrok of politics that the Clintons have ruled for 15 years that stay with them…uh…her.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
and LOM …the title says statistical tie…the actual numbers say he stepped ahead…which personally I am pretty sure is not the case…what is funny is that here is a state with practically the entire political establishment and it’s forces backing the old school candidate that they are afraid of pissing off… working to get her elected and in a few weeks she is now close enough in most polls for this poll to happen…
remember she needed a huge win… that is why Gov Rendell is suddenly found making more supportive statements about Obama… because he knew this was coming and now he has to start getting back on Obama’s good side after all the trash talk for weeks.
I feel for all those people who were intimidated into supporting the Clintons and now have to try and go back to the candidate that they trashed.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
I hope that my fellow North Carolinians have better sense than to vote for Obama. He has already widened the racial divide that exists in this state just by running. Anyone who thinks racism means whites against blacks in this country has never spent anytime here in NC. And yes, here in our small towns we do cling to our Religion and our Guns. We pray every night for God to keep us safe from the drug dealing gangs who have moved into the rural areas here because the law enforcement is not prepared to handle them, and we have our guns ready for the late night home invaders here who come into our homes to take everything we have. And then when we do jail them for their crimes, we get to listen to how racist we are because of the percentage of blacks we have in prison here, and how Brother Obama is going to change all that. For all of us, if Hillary isn’t the niminee, we will vote for McCain. I would rather put up with four more years of Republican garbage than put up with what we will go through if Obama is elected.
Posted by: Melanie | April 16, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
The words of Bruce Springsteen in his endorsement of senator Obama are very moving. I am impressed with his insight concerning his social awareness…….
Thank you Bruce for your support of the senator, the people of America, and the people of the world…..
Posted by: Words of Wisdom | April 16, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Melanie did you just say that “you do cling to your religion and guns”? Not sure I read that right.
So you are pissed that Obama said the same thing.
No you all aren’t just angry that this candidate who fooled you for years into thinking they were the king and queen of the democratic party…no matter what they did putting themselves first. (Even putting themselves 1st and 2nd… …can you imagine being the child of Hillary and Bill… yeah sure you’re the most important thing in their lives… but put your life on hold ofr in the shadows or spend most of your time talking about BOTH of your parents… can you imagine that?)
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
The Bruce Springsteen – Sir Elton John contrast tells it all.
Posted by: greg | April 16, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
James C like all of the other stupid people who have jumped on the elitist comment have no idea what Obama was saying. Let me break it down for you.
Every 4 years the Republicans go into these small towns and spew garbage about Democratic liberals trying to take away their guns, stop school prayer and stop abortion. When plants close and their jobs are shipped overseas, some may even harbor ill feelings towards foreigners blaming them for taking their jobs by working for sub standard wages. Now, instead of voting for the Democrats who have their economic interest in mind, they instead vote Republican, convinced that they will protect their right to own a gun, pass legislation making school prayer mandatory while fighting to repeal Roe v Wade. After years of being screwed, these people will not vote for Democrats. Their vote is based on those hot button issues – not their own economic interest. The Republicans can’t solve your financial problems but if you vote for their guy he won’t pick a running mate who is Pro Choice. Now tell me, how do any of those things help you if you’re unemployed or your house is being foreclosed? ANYBODY? ANYBODY?
Personally, I think people who vote this way are complete idiots! But that’s just me. Another snobby stuck up African American female. I’m probably more of an elitist than the Obamas but I’ll tell you something…I’m extremely bitter! See, 4 years ago at the age of 44 I voted for the first time ever. For years my family was very active in voting but I always felt that it was just a waste of time even though I was riddled with gilt. As an African American the right to vote was achieved with the blood of a lot of other people. Then in 2004, I voted for Al Gore and look what happened! The whole Florida incident left a bad taste in my mouth. However, there is no way I’m going to miss the opportunity to vote for Obama. Like many African Americans I use to love the Clintons. Now I see them both for who and what they really are. PATHETIC!
Obama08
Posted by: roxanne | April 16, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I have absolutely NO intention of arguing with anyone… Someone said, “You know the most insulting and despicable thing about Obama supporters is that they mirror the eltitist arrogance and self righteous attitude of Obama” And I agree with that… Despite the fact that I do not support Obama, I do have SOME respect for him.. And I would have much more respect for him if he showed some humility… Sadly, elitists don’t know what that is..
Posted by: DMK | April 16, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
The Boss – I like his music. But we differ on politics.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Someone,
Yes, he endorsed Sen.Kerry in 2004.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 16, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
roxanne – Whether you like it or not Barack Obama violated two elementary rules of political campaigning. A candidate should never play the role of a political scientist or sociologist analyzing a key electoral swing group from afar and should never dissect the motivations of less privileged people when talking to a group of privileged people.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
All the hippie draft doging flag burning trash from the 60′sand70′s are now on board you know the ones that rasied hell during Viet Nam. Oh and don’t for get a list as long as your arm of lobbist usa today has named he is no different from any other pol and the people he put down in San Fran. will be the one who suffer.
Posted by: Bishop | April 16, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
“Do you feel better knowing that a President Obama is going to spend his time and energy going after his fellow Americans who have been protecting us from the Islamic terrorists who are intent on killing Americans”?
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes! Bush and his boys have committed numerous crimes against the Iraqi people, the Constitition, and American citizens. We were sold the lie that they were protecting and spreading American moral values, and all the while they were giving us a corporate, big business raping and lynching. Wake up America! You’ve been had, you’ve been took, you’ve been bamboozeled to the tune of compromised Constitutional rights, a screwded up economy , and dead and maimed soldiers in Iraqi as the corporate giants continue to get wealthier.
Posted by: resssy | April 16, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I like his songs but that does not change my mind.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 16, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
DMK
So Obama says…he makes mistakes. He doesn’t give in to some of this crap coming from the other side but admits on occasion to making mistakes. Hillary has done that once…twice and really never actually said the words “I made a mistake” …and when she has… it has never been quickly… it has never been before a torrent of people showing her and after her own multiple denials…even in the face of overwhe,ming evidence in the opposite direction…
but you post on here… that OBAMA needs humility?
I think if that is the reason you are not voting for Obama …you need to take a harder look at the situation at hand.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
dl — You obviously don’t understand how to interpret a statistical poll.
If the numbers were 55/45 with a margin of error of 6 percentage points (55-6 and 45+6 overlap), it would still be a tie. Which means, there is no statistical evidence to conclude that either candidate is ahead, aka a statistical tie.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I didnt know that Bruce is prone to hallucinations too..maybe high on something, when he wrote this?. one more who is subverting the truth and attempting to shove down to us incompetent Obama. No more the Boss for me, I’m gonna go trash his records.
Posted by: Ravi | April 16, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Rendell said she needed a huge win. And if she doesn’t get it in PA? Then what? Oh yeah, the race goes on. Why, because Obama can’t close the deal. He is unelectable otherwise he would have this thing clinched by now, especially since he is up in pledged delegates, states won and popular vote.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Obama represents the future of America.
Hillary is dishonest (liar)and paid off by lobbyists. Want more of George Bush? Vote for Hillary.
Want to restore America to its former greatness? Vote for Barack.
Posted by: David Carville | April 16, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I like McCain, I like Hillary, I like Obama too. But of the three of them I like Obama the most. He’s the youngest and I think he will represent us well in the world. I like Springsteen’s recent albums very much too. He’s The Boss!
Posted by: Bill in NC | April 16, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
EAST COAST
Hillary’s lists of associations and scandals and questionable ethics…is A LOT longer than the one you posted.
People in office meet and work with lots of bad people … but if you are going to judge a candidate on their relationships and scandals… there is nobody (name me one politician) that has as many scandals, lawsuits, questions, investigations, disbarrments, caught lying, used the Lincoln bedroom, questions about finanical transactions associated withpardons and bills passing and favors…
than the Clintons…
It was a big part of the reason Bush got elected in the first place.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
LOM
Obama doesn’t have it clinched because he is fighting against people like you and the rest who fought for the Clintons for years and can’t let go of their own protectionism of “THEIR” candidate.
I say it all the time… Hillary Clinton if you look at her as not a Clinton or not like Rosalind Carter or Nancy Reagan or barabera Bush or Laura Bush or Pat Nixon or Lady Bird Johnson… …living in the White House and around the President yes… so was his personal assistants…but if they were Senators… you would not be voting for them if they had the rest of Sen Clintons resume.
He can’t close the deal because many dems have brainwashed themselves to just attack anyone who says that some body is better than the Clintons.
They are far from the bar…heaven help us if they were.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
David Carville – Interesting. With oil hitting $113 a barrel today I’d be interested in how Obama will fix this problem. Especially with Obama pulling out of Iraq and the mess that’s going to sweep through the middle east then if think gas is expensive today now you ain’t seen nothing yet. High energy equals low dollar and high cost of living and less jobs. That should make America great again.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Obama represents the future of America.
????
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With all the celebrities, billionaires support him.
What these billionaires want from him?
Posted by: crisis08 | April 16, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I remember in 2004 he backed Kerry also. How did that work out?
Posted by: toby | April 16, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I hope Clinton does manage to game the system and win the nomination. Not only will she squander the Democrats’ chance to take back the White House but she’ll probably lose Democrats the control of Congress, too. Why? Because American voters, including millions of nominal Democrats who will vote for McCain if Clinton loses the nomination, have STILL not learned the one very tough lesson of American politics: Republicans are a catastrophe for the nation and the vast majority of its citizens. They bring war, economic chaos, class warfare, poverty, homelessness and despair whenever they hold the rein of power. Either Clinton supporters are not paying attention or they are followers of what appears to be Clinton’s driving mantra: Hillary or nobody. Except that if Clinton wins the nomination, it won’t be nobody who wins in the fall. It will be McCain and the Republican party.
Posted by: windrider | April 16, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Its comical some people post about Obama being clean and not taking money from the lobbies, the fact is he is neck to neck if not ahead of Clinton in terms of funds and fund raisers from lobbies/PACs.
Can Obama do anything wrong? Its just amazing anytime anything comes up bad about him, either it is brushed aside with silly excuses from media and supporters or with a cleverly articulated coverup speech, please save us from them even if they are his own words for a change, you can find better lines and speeches in hollywood movies..this whole adulation for him is just ridiculous.
If not Clinton, I will take an old seasoned McCain as a president to a faltering incompetent Obama.
Posted by: Ravi | April 16, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Dogsoldier
You might as well take a very long nap. Obama will never come with a solution to a real problem. Never!
Posted by: S | April 16, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
And Obama’s gonna say this is cool!!. to add to your comment; East Coast.
Posted by: Jeanette | April 16, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Dogsoldier Just a little personal side note…
Green jobs…green jobs …green jobs…
and getting our reputation back.
that is one or two of the keys to our future…and I have to say I like the fact that all three candidates are talking about that.
We should be way ahead on green…we should have started that when Gore was calling for it in front of the congress when he was VP. Just think where we would have been now if a few people hadn’t made that decision in Florida… makes you kinda angry huh?
Makes me feel pretty good about our future… ..or at least not as bad.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
windrider – Democrats control congress and the senate so why haven’t we seen any democrat improvements yet? Democrats were swept into office to stop the war remember? What happened to that promise?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
dl
Sounds like you’re green with envy about someone.
Posted by: S | April 16, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Bruce: I find this shocking that you do not keep up on such a important topic… Hillary has had the most Black population since day one. Something like 55%. Bill and Hillary carry those votes. I think you should get your facts straight… I might scare you.
Posted by: Becky | April 16, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
dl — Interesting assessment. I find it most interesting that you would claim he can’t clinch the nomination so far because he is “fighting against people like you.”
Really? For a guy who is supposed to be the great uniter, he needs people like me to win the nomination and G-d forbid, the general election.
Is he fighting against people like me who want what’s best for our families?
Is he fighting against people like me who commute into work everyday to earn good wages so that I can pay for health care, the rising costs of fuel, mortgage, education, etc.?
Is he fighting against people like me who as a woman, wants equitable pay in the workplace?
Is he fighting against people like me who wants to bring our troops home and focus our nation’s resources on lifting up the middle class?
Is he fighting against people like me who cares about the environment and wants to ensure that the legacy my generation leaves behind is better for our future generations?
He can’t clinch this nomination because he hasn’t convinced about 25% of the electorate that he is the better candidate to address the issues we care about.
At least Clinton has people like me protecting her candidacy. Obama has people like me as well, but he also has the MSM behind him. This would have been over long ago for him otherwise.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
There a good article on USA today’s website entitled “Obama tied to lobbyists, but boasts of not taking money”. The connection with his fellow lawyers is most interesting.
Posted by: Aston | April 16, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
LOM:
YOU miss the point, I think. A Tie is as good as a win for Senator Obama!
Hill needs a 20% win to even think about the “possibility” of stealing the nomination. And she’d have to have 20% wins in all of the remaining pimaries to actually have a chance at getting nominated without “stealing” it.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 16, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
dl – Green jobs? The answer? My friend, there’s a big old world out there where other nations have already gone this route and not much has happened at all. Other nations have discovered it is fossil fuels that power the planet and will for decades and decades to come which translates into costs world wide. Perhaps one half of all products in our lives are derivatives of petroleum products. That’s not gonna change anytime soon. To effect even one percent of a nation the size of America will take thirty years to build the infrastructure of sufficient capacity to matter. You know that.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Not only Bruce, but three more Pennsylvanian newspapers endorsed Barack Obama today.
And he would be “out of touch” with the poeple in PA?
Come on. Think twice.
Posted by: greg | April 16, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Jackt51 – You do know a poll is not a vote, correct? How was the poll conducted? What groups were surveyed? What regions? How many blacks in poll? What methods were used? Telephone? Computer generated calling? Did you check?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Jack51 — I didn’t miss the point. There are folks here who were claiming Obama was ahead according to that poll. I was addressing that point. Nice spin though. Another cue from the Obama playbook: what I really meant…
And if you guys knew how to read those polls, in that same link it said that last week Clinton was ahead 46/43 and two weeks ago, Obama was ahead 45/43, both statistical ties as well.
So, instead of touting this tie this week as a good win for Obama, you should have been cheering for the past two weeks as well since the results were the same.
Again, how can she steal a nomination that has rightfully belonged to NO ONE!? How does Obama win the nomination? I love how you all like to talk about the legitimacy of this contest, but always conveniently leave out MI and FL. Good luck with that argument.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Jackt51,
So in your eyes if Hillary wins the nomination she has stolen it, because in your eyes your ELITE LIMOUSINE LIBERAL candidate OBAMA already owns the nomination, right? I used to think this was a Democratic process until I started dealing with the likes of the Obama Zombies.
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Obama–will say or do anything to keep the working class people down.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 16, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Dogsoldier
The democratic party will soon belong to the far left. I’m afraid you’ll either have to vote for Obama or McCain. Personally, I think you’d do better voting for Nader. He will be the only candidate standing who is for real change!
Posted by: Turku Wren | April 16, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Dogsoldier if America gets to a renewable energy source (i.e. fuel cell advances with new technology …turning water and sun into hydrogen and then using it and turning it back into water…which is right there… more efficient solar energy technology…etc)
We have the facilities, the schools …the resources to make that happen…
other nations do not have what America has on that front…but they had some will.
If one of these companies breaks that fuel cell science and is able to create that ( and their are companies doing this… and making serious advancements in the past year especially) think what it would do to our economy if suddenly just cars, homes and airplanes could be powered without petroleum.
These are not fantasy creations these are technologies that exist and the questions of using that technolgy is in it’s ustainabilty past a lab and/or shrinking the size of the technology doing it.
I absolutely do not think we are 30 years away from that. and if one of these other countries gets to it first… good for them but with those discoveries come a windfall of industry and export.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
WEST COAST I THINK YOU ARE BEING FOOLED BY HILL
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she IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT DOES NOT SEE HOW BAD THINGS ARE FOR SMALL TOWN AMERICA . SHE REFUSES TO SEE THAT WE MAYBE BITTER OR BEING LEFT OUT!! HE%%
IN THE SMALL TOWN WHERE BILL WAS ASKING THEM TO DONATE MONEY TO HILL !!THEY HAD TO LAY OFF CITY WORKERS BECAUSE AS A TOWN THEY WERE STRUGGLING. THEY HAVE 759 HOMES WAITING TO BE AUCTIONED OFF FOR FORECLOSURE . THE CITY COUNCIL OF THAT TOWN ASKED THE SHERIFF TO DELAY THE AUCTION. CAN SHE KNOW UNDERSTAND???NAH ELITES JUST DO NOT GET IT.
Posted by: LAUREN | April 16, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Turku Wren
Nader? Did the conversation just representationally stop when you said that.
As much as I wonder about people who are still stuck in their stance with hillary and Mccain… anybody who jumps in and says Nader… I think… Now here is somebody who I have absolutely no understanding of how his brain works…lol.
No offense just not sure what a vote for Nader does besides waste the energy you use going to the polls on election day.
Posted by: dl | April 16, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Someone tell the Boss that NJ went for Clinton. Also Bruce’s birth state of CA.
Posted by: geevill | April 16, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
dl – Yes, we’re thirty years or more away. For instance, the power grid alone is and remains the culprit for the recent power failures about 16 months ago. Did it get upgraded since then? No! Why? No one is willing to throw out the big bucks to fix the problems and we’re just one power line moment from another disaster. Do you have any idea of the costs involved in the power grid alone? That’s just one single example of the magnitude of the problem. I know Clinton says green power as well, but if you know anything about energy usage at all, and I work in the field with big oil, you soon develop a keen awareness of the magnitude of the needs of a nation this size. It’s all touch and go on the best of days. And that is no joke, believe me.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
WEST COAST
I WAS WRONG THE STORY ABOUT THE 759 HOMES AND THE LAYOFF WAS IN THE WAHINGTONPOST
IM SORRY FOR THE MIS INFORMATION OF WHERE THE STORY LOCALE
Posted by: LAUREN | April 16, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
dl
If the choice for Hillary voters come down to McCain, Obama or Nader, I’m sure Nader will get his share. Nader’s anti-corruption represents a good way for voters to make their real feelings heard. Much better than voting for socialists.
Posted by: Turku Wren | April 16, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Springsteen backed Kerry along with almost half of America. I believe his best song title that describes the way most folks feel about Obama is Born to Run. While Hillary portrays a campaign based on a sense of entitlement based on dynastic ping pong between the Bushes and the Clintons Obama brings people together and shows that as a country we have an entitlement to sense in our leaders and their concerns for all of us.
Posted by: bhciapol | April 16, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
bhciapol – Obama born to run? I thought Obama was born to bowl.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Really Lauren?
Just on her website alone, there are numerous press releases related to the foreclosure crisis. Are you even interested in the truth or just like to spin lies?
8/31 Statement by Hillary Clinton On President Bush’s Belated Response to the Foreclosure Crisis
12/3 From the Senate: Senator Clinton Calls for Immediate Action to End Foreclosure Crisis
12/5 Clinton Statement on New Details About President Bush’s Plan to Address the Foreclosure Crisis
12/5 Hillary Clinton Calls on Wall Street to Shoulder Responsibility for the Foreclosure Crisis
12/6 Hillary Clinton’s Response to Bush Foreclosure Plan
1/24 Hillary Calls For Quick Action To Stop The Foreclosure Of The American Dream
1/31 Hillary Clinton Statement on Her New Legislation to Fight Foreclosures
2/13 Hillary Clinton Statement on Troubling Ohio Foreclosure Data
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I found two press releases related to foreclosures on Obama’s website:
April 10, 2008
Obama Discusses Plan to Help Families, Stimulate the Economy
August 31, 2007
Obama: Bush Proposal on Lending Does Not Go Far Enough
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“Hillary Voted FOR THE WAR”
So did Kerry, Rockefeller, Daschel and Dodd. They too must have poor judgment…and they all have endorsed Obama.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Mary Burningham – So, pulling out of Iraq will make the oil prices go down?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
The tragic part of this debate is that it is burying Hillary’s career. She started this campaign with the highest negative ratings of any major candidate and they have dropped even further since Super Tuesday. Now the recent polls show that she has taken a huge hit on trustworthiness. If this continues she will be unable to change people’s perception in the future, becuase no one will listen to her.
Posted by: steve | April 16, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Great article Lauren. It really demonstrates the class of Hillary Clinton and her commanding knowledge of the issues. And her last line really exhibits her humorous side with “Dewey Beats Truman.” Good stuff. Stuff that makes for a great presidential candidate.
Thanks for posting the article.
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Barack voted for the war. Or was it that he didn’t vote for the war? Oh that is right, he did neither. He didn’t have that responsibility. But he gave a speech.
Obama on 2002 Iraq resolution vote:
“What would I have done? I don’t know.” [New York Times, 07/26/04]
Posted by: LOM | April 16, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
roxanne – That’s a little on the “bitter” side, don’t you think? The Wright issue? Who mention Wright today? Shotgun? That’s a little strong, don’t you think? Bill and the intern. That is correct. But I personally don’t like telling my own friends who sometimes find themselves in somewhat the same situation as Bill and Hillary after the fact, this is what I think you should do. I actually encourage them to try to talk things out for themselves and for the sake of their children and loved ones. I believe with faith and forgiveness it is quite possible for my friends to grow stranger together with time and some professional help. I’ve seen it go both ways. By and large the breaking up of a family is the most difficult experience I’ve seen happening to friends of mine. I’m still chasing women yet and never had the personal experience myself, but it’s not something I’d even wish on my enemies. It’s too hard from what I’ve seen.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how PA votes. I do not believe in polls. Never have.
Obama may be a fine looking AA man and if that is your reasons for supporting him then OK. We differ.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Mary Burningham – Fighting a war over oil? So, how much oil does America get from Iraq?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 16, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Wow – “The Boss” has a brain!!:
“Critics have tried to diminish Sen. Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships,” Springsteen said in his letter. “While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man’s life and vision … often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues.”
Posted by: NotTheBoss | April 16, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Bruce, I like your music; I hate your politics. You’ve picked other political losers like Al Gore in the past, also. Thanks for putting your hex on Obama. Stick to your day-job.
Posted by: Bruce Fan | April 16, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Another great endorsement from another great person! Go Obama go!!!!
“Bitters for Obama!”
Posted by: RuthieM | April 16, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Our standards have moved so far to the right in the last few years that even a centrist will be labeled liberal. It would not be surprising if Mr. Lieberman is a liberal by this standard. We have to look at issues, one at a time, and decide as objectively as humanly possible, what is good for our country. Are we not sick and tired of labels? It has been used so often to divide us. Yet, we have not learned our lesson.
Posted by: worldsam | April 16, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
James C. above sounds mighty bitter (I know- it’s getting old- smile) butt, really, how sad that James and others believe everything they read about Obama- everything negative. When something is written about Clinton or McCain I do my research and sometimes find their words were taken out of context.
I feel Speingsteen’s endorsement is great!
Posted by: Kay | April 16, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
And, according to the LA Times, Obama is now wearing an American flag on his lapel. What a hypocrite! What a hypocrite!
Posted by: Aston | April 16, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
It is so funny to me that I hear people saying that Obama twisted Hillary’s words. I want someone to TRUTHFULLY tell me what words and when. I can HONESTLY show you how she has twisted his words, that bit her right in the butt. She’s like a sniper that hides behind a bush and waits for her oppurtunity to fire. Did I say SNIPER?
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
“The so-called boss was for Kerry and the other mega-liberals too.”
Didn’t Hillary Clinton endorse John Kerry?
If that’s the standard – you’re a loser if you ever endorsed one – then I guess she’s a loser.
Posted by: Paul | April 16, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Obama will not win the presidential race if he does get the democratic nominee..too many of Hillary’s supporters know what a fraud and joke he is and will change their vote to Mccain. I dont feel that Obama’s supporters will do the same if she is elected because they do have some faith in her. Hillary’s supporters are smart and know a fraud, like Obama, when we see one.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Translation:
Hillary Clinton supporters, wah, will take their ball and go home, pout, I mean, sniffle, we’ll vote for the other party, wah, if our candidate isn’t the nominee!
(Stomp feet and hold breath until turning blue now.)
Posted by: Paul | April 16, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Paul, voting for someone due to the party affiliation only, and not on what they stand for and what we think of them personally is pretty foolish and very petty..just as bad as voting for someone because they are black or white..you are voting for the party affiliation and not what they stand for.. go cry about that. :)..like i said, most of us can see thru obama’s lies.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Ryan – that I agree with. But then that’s why I’m an independent.
As for issues, positions, etc., Obama and Clinton are nearly identical. So if those issues brought you into the party, you ought to be able to support your party under either candidate (assuming you’re a Democrat, and not an independent like myself).
Posted by: Paul | April 16, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
If you are willing to vote Republican if Hillary doesn’t win, there is something wrong with you. I’ll allow you to figure out what that problem is. Only you know deep inside what that really is. While there are Obama supporters saying that, it is not even remotely close in number as the Hillary supporters that are saying it. Hillary supporters would rather damage this country even more than it is now if she doesn’t get the nomination. That is being and adult. And that goes to both sides that are saying it. Hillary will support Obama, and Obama will support Hillary when this thing finally pans out. Stop acting like children. I don’t care what you say, You are acting like children.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
You have to admit this, Obama is getting a heck of a lot more endorsements than Clinton, I’m glad she is staying in the race, I love to watch women waste money and lose too.
She’s dead meat everyone, You will find her FORD
She’s having the rear seat of Bills’ car removed next!
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
paul,
Again, i dont vote because of what someone else tells me i should, or because what party they are affiliated with. I use my own head and my own good judgement to form opinions based on facts or at least what we are allowed to see, hear, and know about each candidate. Just because Hillary will support Obama, doesnt mean ill have to or doesnt mean i should. I dont vote because a party tells me to. I vote because its who i feel will be the best candidate and the best leader for our country. Its why the system is set up as it is to let us vote for who we think is best.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Jason
Much better for a Clinton support to vote republican than support the vast left wing socialists!
Posted by: S | April 16, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Paul, and why cant you enlighten me as to why its so wrong to vote for who i think is best even if they arent democrat? Its because you dont have a good reason, only stupid ones.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
and paul, i apologize, i meant to address my responses to Jason, not you
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
If you listen to a celebrity for your opinions in life and in particular how you vote – PLEASE RENIG YOUR CITIZENSHIP. You have to be joking. I cannot believe that there are this many dumb journalists out there.
Posted by: sonia | April 16, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Most people support Hillary, because she is against the war in Iraq (now), She is a woman (sorry but its the truth), she said that she is against free trade (no matter what her history actually says), and because we need a Dem in office. These are the same reasons people support Obama. Obama just doesn’t do it so desperately. And if you are willing to vote for McCain if she doesn’t get the Nomination, you are voting for everything OTHER than why you support Hillary. Can someone explain to me HONESTLY why someone would do this.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Ryan – again, if you’re an independent, it makes perfect sense. But party members tend to be party members because they support the general direction of that party, and know that supporting their candidates, even the lacking ones, help pursue the party’s broader goals.
I’m an independent, so I prefer you’re view. If I preferred the latter I described above, I’d be a party member. I think the more relevant question is why aren’t you an independent?
Posted by: Paul | April 16, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
If Clinton wins over obama (Who is my choice) I don’t care!
I will then vote for the next best of my choice.
But that certainly is NOT HILLARY!
Party doesn’t matter to me, just my choice for my vote.
And the rest of you can “SIT ON IT!”
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Bruce who?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
it might be better to label myself independant rather than democrat, but i do feel that i am more democrat than anything. and again, Paul, i apologize. My argument was with Jason, not you. i think you and i see more eye to eye.
Jason, i dont trust obama as far as i can spit, this is why i wouldnt vote for him. He doesnt have much experience. I do believe he believes what his preacher was preaching. Going there for 20 years, he would have heard some and continued to go. He has too many negative non american factors against him and i think he is basically trying to get us to think he is something that he isnt. I think he is a lying fake, and will be the worst thing for this country.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.
Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency. Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet. As it happens, many people inside Clinton’s campaign live right here on Earth. In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe.The real question is why so many people are playing. The answer has more to do with media psychology than with practical politics. Journalists have become partners with the Clinton campaign in pretending that the contest is closer than it really is. Most coverage breathlessly portrays the race as a down-to-the-wire sprint between two well-matched candidates, one only slightly better situated than the other to win in August at the national convention in Denver. The media are also enamored of the almost mystical ability of the Clintons to work their way out of tight jams, as they have done for 16 years at the national level. That explains why some reporters are inclined to believe the Clinton campaign when it talks about how she’s going to win on the third ballot at the Democratic National Convention in August.
Posted by: mature analyis | April 16, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Ryan, you can vote for whomever you want obviously that is why this country is great. I’m sorry if I actually have to say it, because people don’t understand I was talking specifically about Dems. If you are a republican I not really talking about you.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Hillary Rodham Clinton wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. She had better hope they don’t study her recent campaign too closely for the answer. Clinton has overseen two major staff shake-ups in two months. She has left a trail of unpaid bills and unhappy vendors and had to loan her own campaign $5 million to keep it afloat in January. Her campaign badly underestimated her main adversary, Barack Obama, miscalculated the importance of organizing caucus states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Clinton [...] campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, financial uncertainty and personnel drama. Its strengths — a supremely disciplined candidate and remarkable fundraising — have been undermined by other aspects of the enterprise, such as a headstrong, factionalized staff and a spendthrift approach. The conventional wisdom once held that it was Bill Clinton who was chronically improvisational and unable to run a tight ship. That flaw, it seems, runs in the family.It would be easy to dismiss all of this as fairly conventional political stumbling — if she hadn’t made her supreme readiness and managerial competence the central issue of her presidential campaign. .. “Any time you are involved in a long campaign, there are going to be major substantive and procedural gaffes,” says former Democratic Rep. David Bonior, an uncommitted superdelegate who served as the campaign manager to John Edwards. “The question is how a campaign handles those gaffes and how a candidate handles them. And I think it’s fair to say that Sen. Obama has handled [his] problems better than Sen. Clinton.” Clinton’s defenders argue that the relatively smooth-running Obama operation obscures the reality that the first-term Illinois senator is an untested, naive politician who showed little spine or genius during his unremarkable four years in the U.S. Senate. Clinton loyalists think the Obama story has a predictable conclusion: He gets torn apart by a ruthless GOP and crushed in the general election. But, it is also true that a fair measurement of the candidates’ leadership skills is their management of their campaign. Easily the largest enterprise they have run in their lives — in February alone, Obama had 1,280 paid employees, at a cost of $2.61 million; Clinton had 935 employees and a monthly payroll of $1.63 million — the campaign reveals flaws and strengths that will only be magnified in the Oval Office.
Posted by: let's not be emtional | April 16, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
and Jason, you present no facts, basically like most of obama’s speeches….you talk about Hillary being a woman, then right behind it throw a joke in there, (sorry but its the truth) you remind me of obama. talking a lot, but saying nothing.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
I guess Hillary is a honest as they get. She never tells a lie, and never twist people’s words in and effort to get ahead in the polls..Yea I guess I’d trust her too…Remember there are no bitter people in small towns, and the economy is doing just peachy…Yea I’d trust her too.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Where are your facts about why Hillary is better than Obama, don’t ask me about facts if you can’t provide any.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
no Jason, i would claim democrat..for sure not republican…probably more independant…but i do affiliate myself with the democrats because i would have to be hard pressed to every vote republican..if i thought that obama was capable..i agree with his policies probably more than mccain, but from what i have seen in the news, his personality and accountability is very flawed and like i said before, i think he will run this country into the ground with his lack of experience and his lies.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Bruce Springbone?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making and vote for Sen. Obama. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule and public deception?
Posted by: unity | April 16, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Bruce Springweenie?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Jason, im not trying to persuade you into believing anything. im supporting my stance that i will not vote obama in the November election. I do not need to provide a single fact for that. you are trying to persuade me as to why im wrong for this but you can only attack Hillary’s womanhood. She is 60 something years old..i think she looks very ladylike to be her age and with the stress she has been under.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
His accountability..Yea..I’ll agree he has some pretty shaky company. But i’ll also say that Hillary has provided no facts or truths in any of her speeches (this goes both ways not just one). Additionally he has stood by everything he has questioned on. Wright he stood up, and he denounced them, and as a man he still stood by the man. Don’t you think it would have been more of a political stunt if he denounced the man. To me that was a BOLD move. “the non-issue bitter claim” he stood by his words but stated that could have been worded differently. Any thing that has been thrown at him he doesn’t deflect, he faces them head on. Can you honestly say that about Hillary, not so much.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
unity:
Divide and rule? Public deception?
Sounds like you’re talking about Obama to me. The guy is truly slippery!
Posted by: Aston | April 16, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Unity—Paleeeese. I have seen that canned post a hundred times.
Bruce Springdork?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Ron, i think Bill did a fabulous job as President, i would love to have 8 more years of Clinton. The economy was booming as much as it has in the past 30-40 years and things were looking up, until that republican Bush got into office.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Some people’s fascination with and support of Clinton, despite all her lies , divisive politics, and “mis-spoke” incidents is quite mystifying, bordering on blind acceptance. This is not about gender or some media conspiracy as some people try to make it out to be, but rather, it is about trust and credibility, and the scarcity of truth in Hilary’s statements. The fact that she resorts to lies to get votes indicates that she has minimum respect for her constituents and their intelligence
Posted by: look more closely | April 16, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Im not here to throw Hillary’s name in the mud like you people are doing to Obama. To be honest I’d be more prone to think that Hillary is dirty, than Obama. My problem is, if you are a Dem how can you support a Republican if your person is not, nominated. To me there are other personal issues. Because it is not policy. As far as the whole facts deal, I didn’t ask for them YOU DID. Remember you attacked me by saying that I sound like an Obama speech with no facts. Then I ask you about facts and you tell me you don’t have to provide me with any. Sounds Fair to me.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Bruce Springfarkle?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
As a long time political analyst, I am quite convinced that the protracted rivalry within the Democratic presidential campaign, which has, for the most part, been instigated by Hilary Clinton’s insistence on “going all the way”, could only amount to political suicide for the Democratic Party. This, of course, in turn, would cost the Democrats not only the November election, but also would lead o the disenfranchisement of the next generation and those who feel neglected by history in this country. In this campaign, it has become obvious that Obama represents the voice of the youth and those who are tired of the old system and its politics of cronyism, and are craving real change in the political landscape in this country. On the other hand, Hilary Clinton represents mostly the working-class who nostalgically clings to the memories of the economic boom of the 90’s, the repeat of which, from an economic standpoint, is quite unlikely, given the gargantuan tasks ahead, such as, how to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan (Which some people seem to have forgotten about. America has some 20,000 troops stationed there), and the existence of major international players such as China and India, whose demands for oil and other resources make the repeat of the 90’s nothing more than a just wishful thinking and a pipe dream. America needs an overhaul in its political scene, something that only a new voice that reflects the aspirations of the new generation can achieve. A personality whose charisma can rally people together and can bring about renewed hope. Of course, the word ‘Change’ can sometimes be frightening to some, simply because it might mean letting go of the old habits, which often die hard. However, judging by the state in which America has found itself, thanks to the current Administration’s abrasive policies, both home and overseas, change is inevitable and this can only lead to building a better and stronger America. America and Americans can not afford getting stuck in these political bickerings and divisive policies of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’ while countries like India and China are rising as the new politico- economic powerhouses.
Posted by: analysis | April 16, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
He denounced the pastor and his words only after he was found out by America. Doesnt count after the fact.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Wrong!!!!
He denounced the words. He said that he would not disown the man. To me, that is a man. Most so called analyst thought it was Political Suicide to continue to stand by his pastor but he did. If he had denounced the man, to me that would have been a political stunt, but he stood by him.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Look more closely—Are you intimating that Hillary lies and Obama doesn’t? Do you expect me to believe that Obama has not told a lie during this campaign?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Jason,
the reason is i am not trying to change your mind, only support why i wont vote obama. i dont trust him, from the things i have seen, heard and learned about him, i dont think he will be a good president. this is why i wont vote for him. regardless of what he says and does, i dont trust him. His slip ups and his negative publicity has far outweighed anything positive he says, and anything negative Hillary does. She misremembered something from over 10 years ago..ive done the same thing it was 10 years ago. Obama went to church and believed that god should damn america and that we brought 911 on ourselves..
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Do you really think someone would mis-remember being shot at. Well I have been shot at in Iraq. I can tell you everytime it happened.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
jason, that is one of the major reasons i think he is aliar..he denounced what the guy said and believes after the fact..after we found out what was being said..it was all ok before that..he had heard those sermons before, something of the sort, but continued to go..when my pastor started talking badly about gays, i stood up for what i believed, told him i totally disagree and told him i am no longer part of his congregation. that would have impressed me if i heard obama did that in the past..he didnt, he kept going and supporting until we found out…that is a coward
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Ron, I have reread my posts and don’t see any “filthy” words. You sound pretty timid to me, Yamaha?, Suzuki?, Honda?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Ryan, you are stretching, you are looking for a reason to not believe him. But its ok, you have all the reason in the world to trust Hillary. At least he doesn’t run away from something because it COULD be politically damaging. To me, that is what a man is made of. That is what a candidate should be. He stands beside his words, and he stands beside his Pastor, even IF its political suicide. You’d rather support a person that is a bold face liar.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I say send Hillary back to Bosnia, Maybe they will get her this time?
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Ron, what are you talking about? its policy and legislature that fixes the economy. It was the same legistlature and govnerment and policies that got us in such a huge financial hole. You are crazy.
I dont have to stretch for reasons Jason, Obama just puts them out there for us all. thanks for your input. You didnt change my mind.
Have a good day all, im out of here.
Posted by: ryan | April 16, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Nice try “rjoe”. McCain will be proud of you.
Posted by: idiot | April 16, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Ron—Has the big O been to bosnia?
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Biker, have you been any where?
Right, 8/5 years Army, Korea, Nam, Germany E-5 sgt, and where have you been?
I know on your bike, Right?
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Biker if you were in when I was you would know that an e-5 sgt. is a buck, and most E-5 in armor are specialists.
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Too bad Bruce!
Posted by: Darla | April 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Is this the same guy (the “Boss”) who tried to buy his daughter an $850,000 horse? Hey, Bruce, you’re really mainstream America….
Talk about out of touch!
Posted by: eugene Tighe | April 16, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Biker
Busts?
I don’t know about any BUSTS.
You must have more info on what YOU are talking about, remember I am 69 in two weeks and a lot has happened since I got out around 40 years ago.
Posted by: Ron | April 16, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
rjoe = McCain supporter….not like anyone can’t tell! LOL
Hey McCain – we invented lowercase sometime in the last 1000 years.
Posted by: joeblow | April 16, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Ron–I was just saying that for that much time in service I would think that you would have been discharged as an E6.
Were you ever busted a rank or was there no room for advancement? I have been out 32 years. I almost wish I had put in the 20. My DSL keeps dropping so I don,t know if this posts will go through or not.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 16, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
n January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.
“Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”
Posted by: jim B | April 16, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Hillary voters. Will you swallow your pride and vote for Obama if he’s your party’s nominee?
Posted by: S | April 16, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I get so tired of these celebrity endorsements – who cares how they plan to vote – do they think I really need their input to tell me how to vote … and from this aging rocker who can’t sing – geez – like I care – he’s a flaming liberal and that’s even worse than him trying to tell me how to vote.
Posted by: ravenhair49 | April 16, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Let’s see, grown people following the advice of their pre-teens – cajoling and pleading with their parents to support Obama.
Sounds about right – with the first generation who don’t want to parent their children – they want to emulate them.
Same goes for anyone who chooses a president based on their favorite musician’s choice.
Posted by: morningside | April 16, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Let’s dig up Bob Dylan.
Who is influenced by this endorsement?
This reminds me of Briney’s “support the president” comment. Let’s laugh and get back to arguing. Obama 08
Posted by: disabledOIFvet | April 16, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
What kills me is that, the Hillary supporters claim to be moral, and values cherishing people, and Obama isn’t moral and doesn’t have values. I guess lying is not immoral. Or its just one of those that they can overlook. It would be different if she were lying about something major, but she lies about stupid ****. I know what value Obama doesn’t have in their eyes.
Posted by: Jason | April 16, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Good endorsement! Any one who thinks it wont count in PA dont understand PA. Look at it this way, Hillary Clinton had Elton John endorse her. LMAO. Who do you think the mainstream working class white males will identify with more? Elton John or The Boss?
Posted by: IndieVisible | April 16, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I’d be more interested in who my garbageman is endorsing! Springsteen sucks …. never could sing. Was always a screamer!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 16, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
This will keep Springsteen’s record of backing losers perfect.
I am at a loss to understand why these self inflated entertainers think that they have any political influence.
Posted by: AZOLDTIMER | April 16, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I’ve never been a big fan of Springsteen’s music, but I’ve always appreciated his integrity – something that is rare in this world.
Posted by: mark from atlanta | April 16, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
what news.
Posted by: osvaldomejia | April 16, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Bruce Springsteen endorses Barack Obama in presdential race
Bruce Springsteen has officially offered his endorsement to democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama in a message posted on his website today (April 16).
The New Jersey-native said that Obama has “the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next President. He speaks to the America I’ve envisioned in my music for the past 35 years”
“After the terrible damage done over the past eight years, a great American reclamation project needs to be undertaken” Springsteen continued.” I believe that Senator Obama is the best candidate to lead that project and to lead us into the 21st Century with a renewed sense of moral purpose and of ourselves as Americans. Over here on E Street, we’re proud to support Obama for President.”
Posted by: CHUCK | April 16, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
hmmm, let’s see who did he endorse in 2004, B O looking more like Kerry everyday.
Posted by: zatachen | April 16, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
ITS TIME FOR BLACKS TO RISE ,, LETS ALL VOTE FOR OBAMA ,, PLEASE WE NEED THIS !! OBAMA IN 08
Posted by: rjoe | April 17, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Trying to poach some koolaide drinkers to buy his next CD, sales are slow.
Posted by: ladyliberty | April 17, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm