Candidate Clinton to Richardson: ‘Barack Obama Can’t Win’

The longer the super delegates let this circus go on, the more damage they do to their Party (who cares?) and the more electable they make John McCain, aka Bush Lite, McSame, Mr 100 more years of Fear, War and Debt.

Those who vote for McCain must like military funerals.

Between the 2 of them punching each other out, by November, might as well get used to saying “President John McCain”

This country deserves the person they elect for President. Look at how blindly this country voted for Bush and for his personality. The same holds true for Obama. When the excitement of his charisma wears out, it will be too late. Damaged is done.

You couldn’t ask for an easier election for the democrats to win. Bush’s approval rating at 30%, the war not exactly a strong point, and the economy headed south. It’s hard to believe you could screw this one up, but it looks like that’s exactly where you’re headed. If you guys can’t win this, it’s just time to get out of the business.

SuperDelegates,
The correct word is unelectable. Barack has been unfairly labeled as the “black” candidate. He is indeed a person of color. America is ready to elect a person of color, without any question. The results in many contests show that.
Barack Obama is not electable, though, because he is a pure unadulterated ELITIST from Harvard. He’s also a bad bowler but I’ll excuse the latter.
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Obama got $250,000!
Rezko gets jail!
Obama is unelectable!
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“Why exactly does she think Obama can’t win? Because from where I stand his coalition looks rather unstoppable.”
His coalition represents about 50% of the democratic party and about 20% of the general electorate. He can’t win.

He can all money and people in world. Let states vote who never done yet. Putting faith in man who known 2 yrs and ABC World News

You reap what you sow? You make your own bed..? Dig your own grave? Yup DNC.. you get what you deserve.
This weakened Republican party will still be strong enough to defeat todays DNC house of cards!
The Liar The Witch And The wardrobe is the worst thing that has ever happened to the DNC.
Obama is doing well simply because he’s not a Clinton!
The big question is… Will the Left commit suicide-by-Iraq once more?

There is something very creepy about Obama. I feel there is some serious things that he is hiding. He may be a good cheerleader and stuff but the keys to the White House contain the key to the nuclear arsenal of the USA. Although I have to admit, I like Obama, I definetly DO NOT TRUST HIM.

Just for the record Jerry,…
Why did you care to research that? Where did you find it? How long have you been obsessive about posting it to prove,…absolutely nothing?
That is one of those great pieces of esoteric nonsence that adds nothing to the conversation.
“Gee Wiz Jer,…how did you know all that?”
But the real question is…what does it matter?
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His whole life in America is a lie!! And you fell for it,..Sucker!!

Why would anyone believe that Obama cannot win. He’s ahead on all fronts. He’s ahead in most polls.
Statisticians have determined that it is a mathematical impossibilioty for Clinton to catch up to Obama in pledged delegates. They also indicate that she has nearly zero chance of catching up in the popular vote.
Clinton’s only argument is to say that Obama is somehow seriously flawed. But she has no credibility. I think she also is shooting for the voters who havent been paying attention. Who else would buy into her claim (other than white racists and angry females who want Hillary to be their hero and avenge the gender discrimination they have experienced in their lives).
White male, age 39, PhD

“if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination I will vote for McCain and so will my family.”
Sorry Mariann you don’t get to tell them how to vote and you’ll never now how they did. That’s why we have one man one vote.

I filled out my Form 1040 today. If either Obama or The Witch are elected my taxes will increase by $800 whthout an increase in income–merely by making dividend income fully taxable–the restoration of the double taxation of corporate profits so dear to the balck harts of the Democ-rats.
The only things the Democ-rats have a religious devotation to is high income taxes and the Death Tax. Go to the voting booth in November and kill them first!

go ahead play the follow leader game now with his “make up ideas and Changes talks”

A lot of conservative columnists continue to attack Hillary Clinton and ignore Obama. A number of Republicans in earlier primaries have supported Obama in an effort to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming the Democratic Nominee.
The last laugh, or more correctly weeping, might very well be on the Republicans. When the votes are counted after the November election, I think it very likely John MCCain will lose the election.
In which case, if Obama is the next President he will be much more liberal than Hillary Clinton. Obama is a Marxist, who believes in collectivism and his Presidency will be a “movement” to mobilize the nation into collectivist actions and policies unlike anything since the New Deal.
That is what Talk Radio, conservatives of all stripes, and Republicans who fear and hate Hillary Clinton should really be concerned about. McCain is a slender reed indeed against the realities “change” under Barack Obama will bring to our nation and society.

I hope that I’m wrong, but I think that the DNC will use the super delegates to take the nomination away from Obama if he wins the popular vote. If they do this, they are insuring a McCain win, since HRC can’t win the general election. If Obama gains the nomination, I think that he has a very good chance of being victorious over McCain. I guess that we’ll see what we see. I think that it’s clear that the Democratic Party doesn’t have the cojones to run a black man for president.

I admit to not reading all of the posts here, but the ones I have read are misreading the quote, and that includes the author of the story.
Hillary said to Richardson, “He cannot win Bill. He cannot win.” Think for a moment of the real meaning behind that desperate comment. It doesn’t mean Obama is UNABLE to win…it means that Obama must be STOPPED from winning.
Now this isn’t to say that they will do ANYTHING at all costs to stop him, rather, it is simply a somewhat frightened remark coming from an individual that is seriously concerned about the consequences of an Obama victory.
What becomes even more intriguing is when you begin to connect the dots of the Bush-Clinton Monarchy over the past 20-some years…why G.W. has been so accomodating to the Clinton’s and the release of their presidential records. The cozy relationship that Bush 41 has had recently with Bill, and the Clintons suddenly spending an unusual amount of time with FOX News, Limbaugh, and some of the other conservative media.
Something very strange is afoot, and I fear it isn’t something the American public is going to want to hear.

Jack, I respect your opinion but I don’t agree… and so does America. At least the people here are aware of the world situation. Most Americans have no idea whats going on in the world right now. Going with that, regular people will vote for change. Obama and Clinton are change.McCain is Bush 3. I think they will vote for anyone but Bush 3. But then again, Bush was reelected in 04…

JR
Aren’t you cool, getting the inside scoop – you stated “I have heard some of the nations most formidible intellectuals who do not divulge their political affiliations stating that this is not a very bright man, he is a scary man.” Why the secret identity of these ‘intellectuals’? Did they call you personally from a dark corner or are they willing to stand up and be counted?
The sounds of “empty suits”…
You say that there will be no change (with Obama as Pres) – not sure how you know this. I sure hope you are wrong.

No, the super delegates won’t give it to Hillary. She has lost the black vote. She won’t get the new voters who’ve been galvanized to political action for the first time. The middle of the road Republicans who might like Obama hate her guts. And then there’d be those of us who would feel enraged that we voted for nothing and that the Democrats do NOT believe in democracy.
Hillary unites only in hate.

Later on when dust will settle for Clinton and Obama and Mc Cain will be the president, the democrats will regret about choosing Obama as the nominee. Democrats will disitegrate and one party will emerge, a moderate liberal, ourging the leftist Obama supoorters. America can not live under the far end of the views.. all it atakes is a centrist to unite. McCain is a liberal and not so conservative in his view, safe for an average American.

Here’s a cold dose of reality.
The Rev. Wright episode has destroyed the Obama campaign. Many people won’t admit this, but insiders know that Obama will be toast in a general election.

Old lady go away.

If Obama would lose against McCain, Hillary would be humiliated by John McCain. In fact, all democrats would be shamed by her humiliation.

Really? Really? LOL Good luck with that line of attack there Hil…..ROTFLMAO it appears the popular vote, the majority of elected delegates and thr majority of states disagree with you on that one …and based on the delegates that Obama has picked up since the first of the month…16 to your 1…it appears the super delegates don’t agree either…so ..again Good luck with that…..

A pause for thought for you Republicans.
If you can’t spell “right” you have nothing to say I am interested in hearing. Your McCarthy actics haven’t worked for fifty years. They won’t now.

I’m not really sure why this is such news. Hillary Clinton’s argument all along has been that Obama can’t win. That will be McCain’s argument too. What’s the big deal? ABC, like every other news network, has become so biased against Hillary Clinton that they will try to make a story out of nothing in an effort to either harm her politically or to force her out of the race. The media should be ashamed, but so should whatever moron thinks there’s something interesting to this bit of “news.”

A lot of conservative columnists continue to attack Hillary Clinton and ignore Obama. A number of Republicans in earlier primaries have supported Obama in an effort to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming the Democratic Nominee.
The last laugh, or more correctly weeping, might very well be on the Republicans. When the votes are counted after the November election, I think it very likely John MCCain will lose the election.
In which case, if Obama is the next President he will be much more liberal than Hillary Clinton. Obama is a Marxist, who believes in collectivism and his Presidency will be a “movement” to mobilize the nation into collectivist actions and policies unlike anything since the New Deal.
That is what Talk Radio, conservatives of all stripes, and Republicans who fear and hate Hillary Clinton should really be concerned about. McCain is a slender reed indeed against the realities “change” under Barack Obama will bring to our nation and society.

A RION, a lying thieving crook, and and empty suit who only talks about change.
Face it folks were screwed by both parties who only answer to they various handlers.

You speak for me, John M. — almost. While I would suppress the gag reflex long enough to vote for McCain over Obama, if it is a contest between Hillary and McCain, I will probably not vote at all.
As for Bill Richardson: “unwavering affection” my eye. Carville had the right of that sleazeball. Except I might call him “Brutus” instead of “Judas.” Tomato, tomahto.

Too bad there is not another choice on the ballot in November……..”NONE OF THE ABOVE!”.
At least then one could feel that they were voting for a change in the way politics have been played in this country for years!!!
Sad that every 4 years we are given the option of voting for the lesser of the two evils???

“Obama has been bribing superdelegates with thousands of dollars, each.”
Gosh John, what a pity you aren’t a real reporter? Then you could break the story and have some real facts.

IT WAS part of the “kitchen sink” strategy of the THE CLINTONS TO make Obama unelectable by attempting to destroy him. The more Obama seemed indestructible, the lower they descended in their tactics. Now they are telling us that Rev. Wright is the reason why Obama can’t win; but what they have done in this campaign will give the Republicans more stuff against Obama than any damage the Wright controversy can possibly do. There is always something very menacing, ugly and destructive about the Clintons. Just follow the saga of their lives: The Presidency, then the Monica Lewisnky scandal; the Governor’s mansion in Arkansas cum Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers and others; the Clinton Presidency and the loss of the Democratic majority in Congress, and on and on, including the sudden death and disappearance of many former aids who knew too much. It is always about the Clintons and nobody else! This time they will not succeed! The Obama movement will prevail against the old politics because America is turning the corner on the negativism of the old politics. The Clintons will continue to wallow in their destructive habits and, in reality, self-sabotage!!!

Hillary is wrong again,she underestimates Obama’s capabilities,thats why they thought they would wrap up the nomination by Feb -5. Surprises in store for people like her in the upcoming general election.

Maybe I’m missing something, but did McCain do anything else in the war BESIDES get captured?

Wake up Dems…..neither one of your candidates can beat McCain!!!

“Obama has been bribing superdelegates with thousands of dollars, each.”
Gosh John, what a pity you aren’t a real reporter? Then you could break the story and have some real facts.

People need to wake up to the FACT that Obama is as much a white man as he is a black man. What a news flash for the racist out there in la la land.

“neither one of your candidates can beat McCain!!!”
My cat could beat McCain

Bullwinkle J. Moose.
I’ve seen him shout “Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!” and pull out a rinocerous head. That I can live with.
I keep hearing the three liberals we have running for president shouting the same thing and I’m frightened what they’ll get when then reach in the hat.
Think I’ll just vote for Bullwinkle.

Why does Obama say “uh” alot when he’s not reading something off of a teleprompter? It’s really, really irritating.

Dear Recovering Republican,
You fool no one. I know A LOT of republicans – a whole lot! Not one is saying what you did as they have the horse sense to know that for whatever the many reason we got into the war, it’s not leaving us if we pack up and leave; it is coming back home with us.
Go peddle your lies elsewhere.
JR

most of the comments sound like “ned in the first reader”-no wonder we are getting the choices we have-

Nobody wins in this election…We’re not voting for who like the most but who we dislike the least. Hillary/Billaary is too dishonest (Bosnia) and corrupt (we can’t take another scandal) and Obama is too liberal/ineperienced for either of them do the job properly. McCain is not a conservative no matter he says. Though he will be better than Bush…We’re all screwed until 2012 or 2016.
The problem is not these candidates, it’s the America voter. As long as we/you keep re-electing, yes, that’s re-electing, these losers it’s going to remain the same-o same-o.

Hillary can’t win the nomination and she knows it, she just wants to sabotage Obama and keep raising money to run again in 2012

Mike Denhof:
“You’re making an assumption that being Black has more benefits than negatives for a candidate. I dont think its true”.
I apologize if I did not point out that I meant it only with regard to the democrat nomination. Search and read “The Angry White Male” to see how many who have sat home for years will get up from their Barcaloungers and vote against an unqualified black man. I’d vote for Alan Keyes, a Clarence Thomas, a Walter E. Williams, or a Thomas Sowell. But I am not voting for a swindling, land deal lying, racist black man. And that is what Obama is and will be seen to be by enough people before the election.
JR

Can’t win….let’s see…he’s winning elected delegates, winning the popular vote, won more states and gained 16 super delegates this month to Clinton’s 1…..gosh looks like someone is not letting facts get in the way of THEIR reality…..good luck with that train wreck of thought…….

Operation CAOS is working better then ever imagined.

Hooray for illary and Bill. Richardson is a loser, as is Obama. President Clinton — eight more years, this time it’s Hillary.

My Dad, very intelligent, paused too but not on every other word. He, at least spoke a complete thought, before he paused.
The pause was to allow you to absorb what had already been said.
Waiting and hanging (with baited breath) on every other word is ANNOYING!!

I’ve been a firm Clinton supporter since the beginning of her campaign. I organized, canvassed, volunteered, made phone calls…
However, I’ve come to the conclusion that my True Blue Democrat idealism isn’t as tempered as I once thought.
This race is putrid…yes.
Is it the candidate’s fault??? No.
It is the media! The media has decided to pick our Democratic nominee for us this go-around…squarely supporting Barack Obama.
And, as Bill Clinton said in that interview, we’re looking at fractions of percentage points separating the two candidates.
Party unity? We’ve got a Republican Governor of Florida pleading with Howard Dean to allow a re-vote…
The Democratic party has lost my interest. While politics has always been and will continue to be a fascination of mine, it will be from overseas if I witness an Obama or McCain White House.

“What all the educated dopes that propose to be my peers pretend to see in Obama, I admit I can’t.”
Never mind, you’ll have four years to figure it out.

“You are all a bunch of political junkies totally divorced from reality. ”
No. They are entirely personality junkies. About politics they know zilch

Obama CAN win,
even though Hillary does not want him to.
Much like too many of her supporters supporters, she will probably vote for McCain in the general election out of childish spite.

marywnm, the US is fine to live in, but there are many other places one can live as well.

She’s right. Obama cannot win the general election neither though can she.
The next President is John McCain.

The only good thing that will come out of this is that the Democratic party will be seriously weakened if not totally split.
I am hearing that Clinton supporters are talking about voting Republican all the way down the ticket, just to show the Dems that they don’t appreciate the in-your-face insults and cherry-picking which rules to enforce and which votes to count and which narratives to splatter all over the news.
It’s funny to hear coming from lifelong Dems, but this party has abandoned whatever it was it once stood for.

How disillusioned Hillary now is and husband Bill is just attempting to use use “Bully” Tactics against The Superdelegates – How anyone can treat Bill seriously after the LIES he told the People of America I can’t understand.
Voters thankfully are starting to see The True Hillary, in Pennsylvania the 26 point lead Hillary has is falling daily now just a few points, these Voters have such an important decision to make and can bring this Race to an end so The Democrats can prepare to face McCain.

The Clinton’s are pathetic, they are habitual liars, distorting the truth about everything!
Hillary’s judgment is a perfect example of her being unfit to be President, She has stayed with runaround Bill for her on gain politically.
Barack Obama has more honesty and integrity in his little finger than she has in her whole body.
The Clinton’s are desperate and trying anything to
try to scare people into voting for her, sound familiar? George Bush was successful at it so they figured what the hell!

or maybe obama has just enough integrity to exaggerate the extremist nature of his school mates to make himself look more tolerant and mature, as was the case with his autobiography…..

Two big reasons McCain cannot beat Obama.
1. The economy stupid
2. The war in Iraq
McCain could only beat someone that is a pathological liar like say—Hillary!

Of course the Dems are uniting angry voters, if you have paid attention to the debacle of the last 8 years, you have every reason to be mad as hell, the call for change, is everyone saying, get us out of this mess, and now. there is the consensus. It is a frustration driven by hope, and indeed love of the country and knowing we can do better. Though we try to be rational, emotions are running high in this campaign, and will be decisive in the voting booth where people make impulsive, intuitive gut choices, not rational ones.

At least Hillary is honest about everything.

No politician is honest about everything. At least Hillary knows the issues, has plans and acts for the good of the country instead of giving empty speeches.

Hillary is corrupt beyond imagination. Obama isn’t electable, isnt’ qualified, and has a horrid list of ideas that will destroy our economy and way of life. McCain is moderate (if not a liberal). So Democrats should be happy with McCain. I was hoping for a more conservative candidate, but McCain will have to be my guy. I live in the Middle East and I know how US politics affects this region. I can tell you that Obama would be an awful choice. Hillary far and above Obama would be better…but both of those infinitely worse of an option than McCain. To the anti-war crowd, people here in the Middle East don’t hate the US because of the war in Iraq. They hate a percieved bias against Palestine and toward Israel. People who think it’s about Iraq are deluded. I know that most anti-war people either aren’t college graduates, or they don’t understand geopolitical systems, but that is no excuse. Stop the cliches about how voting for McCain is a vote for military funerals, etc. I could be just as rediculous and say a vote for Obama or Clinton would be a vote for terrorism. Let’s not be stupid people.

Hillary is also one of the smartest women in the country.

Al Gore? You wish. Al gore is an American who sticks to American Values,not socialistc ideals.He goes to a good church that doesn’t damn Americans and America.
Al Gore is Nobel Prize winner why would he choose to work for your inept administration
and abandon his cause? mayby to bail you out of the numerous bone headed mistakes we’ll have to endure Nationaly and Internationaly if he’s not by yor side.
I hope Gore will come out and publicly reject your offer which is soly staged to sway the Penn voter.What a lame way to do business. What a lame way to run a campaign. What a lame President we would have.

Al Gore won a Nobel prize so he must be one of the smartest men in the country

Obama would never raise taxes. Even if he creates all kinds of entitlments and benes he’ll never raise nay kind of taxes.

Hillary the LIAR is making it real easy for me in PA to vote Obama. But even so, I believe in what Obama believes and what he wants for the people of this country and for our children. The one thing I hate is a liar, and she is a liar. She must think the voters are stupid here in PA, well Hillary you haven’t seen anything yet to match the loss you will have in the great state of Pennsylvania.
Her “He can’t win” comment is really a cry for herself, she can’t believe she is losing this thing. Wake up HRC, you’ve lost fair and square.

“Those who vote for McCain must like military funerals.”
Yeah, what’s up with the terrorists holding military funerals nowadays? And why aren’t we using these opportunities to take out more terrorists? I am confident McCain will not make this mistake.

Clinton elected? Maybe some of the goods they looted from the White House when they left comes back. No concensus government. She’s a power because her vindictiveness is feared.
Obama elected? Another feel-good Carter presidency, which only lasted one term. For good reason.
McCain elected? Depends on how the ticket is balanced, I suspect.

Hillary has tried everything to stop Obama, from her kitchen sink strategy, to praising McCain, to raising doubts about Obama’s electability…need I go on? Yet somehow, Obama is still winning and Hillary is behind and deep in debt. I used to be a Bill Clinton supporter but this primary has opened my eyes to the Clinton’s wicked ways. Now I support Obama. I think that many people see that he is smart, rational and can do some great things for this country. The Clintons, on the other hand, are sadly becoming irrelevant…

The terrorists and terrorist sympathizers posting anti McCain propaganda here really amuse me. They must be shaking in their boots. :D This news item is about HRC vs. BHO and not about JSM.

I would have to agree with those who have pointed out that writing on these blogs doesn’t seem to have much impact on changing any minds here, but what I would like to talk about is the problem that we all have … voters and candidates alike: the Media.
Has anyone else been thinking about why the Media’s coverage has seemed so lopsided and full of favoritism? And that it doesn’t seem to matter which candidate it is.
It is because the Media isn’t interested in reporting facts … or even the truth. Newspapers, magazines, television broadcasts, websites — the Media makes money not from writing about facts or the truth … the Media makes money telling stories that sell, regardless if those stories are accurate or not.
The truth is, the Media is the big — and maybe the only — “winner” in this election process because no matter what they print, say or do, the Media makes money … it doesn’t have to be accurate, factual or even meaningful … it only needs to sell and sensationalize.
The Media doesn’t make much money these days from selling newspapers and magazines … the Media’s big money comes from advertisers and, with the rise of the Internet, the Media makes tons of money for every click made to their sites, blogs, etc. Just look on this page … full of ads, right? Each time we click on a “news” story, participate on the blogs or even click from a search engine onto this site, this website makes money.
The Media’s strangle-hold doesn’t stop there … if a candidate wants to raise public awareness of who they are, what has to happen? They have to get Media coverage.
Do you wonder why it’s so expensive to run a political campaign? That’s because they have to pay top dollar for their “air” time and who profits? The Media.
Most newspapers and “news” services endorse a candidate. That makes them very “selective” about what they print about their endorsed candidate. Not to mention that the Media has to run ads and articles that are okayed not only by the owners, but also by the advertisers. Again, it’s money for the Media that calls the tune about what gets published and what doesn’t.
Ask any celebrity about how “easy” it is to sue the Media for printing lies and slander. It takes huge amounts of money and years in court … meanwhile, the Media is raking in the profits from printing their half-truths and lies … and since it is costly and time-consuming to bring a lawsuit against a Media outlet, the Media can afford to keep printing their trash because they know this. It is cheaper to tell lies and reap the profits while the lawsuits languish in court.
What this country really needs is campaign reform and more public-owned broadcasting and news services. As it is, only the extremely wealthy and well-connected can afford to run for office, due in large part to the control and manipulation of the Media.
We, the people, need to turn our attention towards ways in which we can wrest election coverage away from privately-owned Media outlets so that we can have a truly healthy, factual public debate on the candidates. If we could get campaign reform, we might actually get wholesome candidates who would give it their all, with honor and integrity.
Thanks to those who have read this … I really needed to talk about these problems.

The polls compiled by RealPolitics.com say Obama would have problems in the general election in the big electoral swing states. General Election polls:
McCain vs Obama McCain vs Clinton
Nation:
McCain +0.2 Tie
Penns:
McCain +1.0 Clinton +0.8
Ohio:
McCain +5.0 Clinton +2.5
Florida:
McCain +8.0 McCain +3.0

Americans who have read ‘The Audacity of Hope’on top of a little brain that thinks scientifically and positively would not conclude as’middleeastguy, StopObama,Raul,’and many more out there who for me seem either unable to see beyond color or are, politically speaking, simply raw!!!

Hillary knows the middle east.

“Never mind, you’ll have four years to figure it out.”
I think the impending Clinton or McCain Presidency will obviate any need. Dealing with nonreality-based folks like yourself going through yet another Kubler-Ross stage sequence will be quite enough.
Btw, why don’t you answer my answer- just what can and will Obama politically sacrifice himself for? (And by extension, what common good would people like you truly sacrifice for, other than for the resentful ego trip known as Our Turn?) Is that crickets chirping I hear, again?

Let’s be honest! All 3 are Disneyland politicians. No one is paying attention to what’s happening to our financial system and Wall Street. We need a Mulligan and some new and way-better choices for where we are in current history. This is more reminiscent of a Student counsel election(silly) instead of a serious election for the President of our future. Wakeup or you won’t be in Kansas anymore people. Freedom and our future here is at stake. Use an unbiased view to see beyond the rhetoric and see the truth. It will set you free! Together we stand, divided we fall.

Whoever came up with this “super delegate” idea shows such arrogance. Look at how the campaigning has gone: there’s the campaigne to convince the average person, then there’s the special campaigne to convince the local “kings and queens” who are the super delegates. This entire idea is so condescending, so demeaning, and purely undemocratic.

I am completely disgusted at the fact that these “liberals” are using something like race or religion as a qualifying factor for candidacy. John F. Kennedy was approached with the same ignorance for being catholic, but it is amazing that 43 years after the induction f the civil rights movement, I read these boards and see people calling African Americans, as well as Caribbean Americans monkeys. It is even more upsetting that people are not aware of the struggles that have been waged by the previous generations, in hopes that ours would be shed of the ignorance that taints our productivity. If you believe Obama is not a capable candidate, because of something his priest said, that is your own prerogative. However to deny that Senator Clinton or Barack Obama are not public servants us absurd beyond belief. Despite disagreements I have with all five candidates, it is not my position to judge them by age, race, religion, or their gender. They deserve to be measured by their individual character, and the qualifications they can bring to restore America to the prestige it once possessed as a superpower.
This country needs a change of direction, as clearly demonstrated from this forum. We discriminate each other’s opinions rather than debate issues. We continue to characterize candidates by a “Reverend Wright” reel, A Muslim name, Gender, “Monica Lewinsky”, and age amongst other things. However these arguments are stagnant in helping us collect the information of who will help us realize a greater vision of America. A vision that will essentially have us working together to strengthen the economy, and turning energy green, depleting the dependence on limited oil. Aiding Americans in the housing crisis during the recession, bringing new jobs to the dry job market, making healthcare affordabe, and education more efficient. Fixing the prison systems. Creating a country where our diplomacy matches the strength of our military. We must also prevent the government from separating itself from the people. Generating the transparency of Washington enables us to become more active in our government, and gives us the opportunity to hold politicians accountable for their activities in office. Public servants should be there for the people, not themselves.
We are very far off track from what I truly envisioned for America, and we truly need to stop knocking each-other, and pay attention to the facts. Hold your bias away from the candidates, and invest interest in their actual operations. Not just the rumors that are meant to distract you from the issues that plague America. Only when we are united will we ever be able to do things greater than ourselves. I challenge you to not get wrapped up in the moment, but analyze life and apply your knowledge to the future. Writing on these blogs can disheartening, as there is an arrogance that is stemmed from debate. But if you read something, take the time to look it up, and find out for yourself.

But the worst fear of all is to have the Republicans winning the WHITE HOUSE AGAIN, AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IF OBAMA IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. HE DOES NOT STAND A CHANCE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS

“Not me… its the Constitution Party in 08 for this voter.”
I’m with you Airborne! Ron Paul had the best platform in my opinion.
It may take a bit longer since all the old people are so in love with the likes of McCain & Hillary. They’ve been voting in garbage for the past 30 years plus! Then they wonder why there are issues with SS & Medicare and the government as a whole is a big piece of trash.

Why do you people keep saying Hillary voted for the war? Have you lost your minds. Do you not remember WHY ..well I will refresh your feeble minds..it was because she was lied to…lied lied lied. Of course once the war was started she has to voted to fund it. What do you want her to do, let all those poor soldiers go without the money they need? SHUT UP with the Hillary supported the war line of bull****!!!!!

Aslan
50% of the Democratic Party and 20% of the general is a bad %. That means McCain has 100 % of Republicans and 50 % of Democrats and 80% of the general. BAD NUMBERS.
Obama nor HRC can Win.
Pres.
McCain

“Why do you people keep saying Hillary voted for the war? Have you lost your minds. Do you not remember WHY ..well I will refresh your feeble minds..it was because she was lied to…lied lied lied.”
Of course, George Tenet [brought in by Clinton] orginated the lie that Iraq was the most dangerous country to the US back in 1998. I think there is blood on both parties hands.

i’m sticking with Obama. I think Hillary’s finished

HRC was fooled by Bush and Cheney into voting for the Iraq war. That shows a lack of judgment and wisdom on her part.

Voting means nothing. Don’t waste your time. All this BS about voting and it’s the electoreate that makes the final count. Super Delegates? Where the hell did they come from? There has been articles all over the net about them being wooed and bribed. Thats how our next president will be elected? God save us. These 3 candidates are the worst bunch of losers I have seen. Come on people. Lets see what happens if we just don’t vote. I know it will never happen but would’t you like to see what happened if we could pull it off? The powers that be will choose our next president. As a matter of fact, that choice has been made long ago. We have never been in control. All this BS about a close race and the choice for VP and all the other crap is just to keep us occupied while the country falls down around us. Damn them all. We should throw the whole congress out and start over. ALL of them. Yes, all of them. They are all dirty. Now I know I will be called crazy and uneducated and don’t know the facts and God only knows what else. But you know what? I don’t care. You all know I’m right but are to weak or afraid to admit it.

To Nice Guy: Those who vote Democratic must love terror victim funerals. More to come…

A vote for Hillary…NEVER! In the beginning, I considered Obama. But, he now appears to be another loser! Obama lacks experience and has NOT been properly vetted. Is he is a closet black racist…who really knows for sure? His long-time church/pastor association is VERY troubling! If he becomes the nominee, Obama will be fortunate to get 45% of the popular vote. McCain was never my ideal choice for President. But, when considering the alternatives (Obama or Hillary), McCain looks like George Washington!

Gore should run
Yes because he is fat and needs to lose some weight. Gore is a fool and anyone who thinks he could win is delusional.

Poor Richardson. Al Gore is now on the line being demoted by Barack Obama. What a slap in the face but that happens to traitors.

God Bless America and our Troops and may we overcome the hypocrisy and cowardice of those who do not have the stomach to defend this country and its citizens, even the traitors and scoundrels among us. John McCain will defend this country, thank God. The Democrats will surrender to the terrorists.

Obama should concede. Karl Rove already has his next manufactured scandal prepared. Barrack Obama’s surrogates loves the masochism of humiliation..once again !! What does Obama care, anyway?

John McCain nationally gets the hero of the year award. Here in Arizona we got over the POW thing years ago. We know McCain as a guy who was up to his neck in the Keating scandal. His beautiful America loving wife will not be much of an asset to him in the bible belt when they find out about some of her little secrets. Her money was made in the liquor ditribution industry, everyone knows about her addiction to pain killers which we can all sympathize with, but few know where she was getting her “stuff”. Anyone remember the McCains being involved in deals to send pharmacutecals to underdeveloped countries? Some people just can’t keep their hands outa the cookie jar. All this and all the rest will come out in the general election.

I wonder if the super-delegates are noticing the Clintons’ newfound appreciation of, and collaboration with, the “right-wing conspiracy” of the likes of Mellon Scaife, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh. There’s not even the pretense of Democratic character and integrity left with these power-mongers.

I have read every single comment posted. I am sorry to say that I have.
Most of these posts are spite initiated. Either against Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Its stupid. You all keep talking up the others weaknesses. I doubt it will ever change anyones vote.
I myself am I Hillary Clinton supporter. If Obama wins the nomination , I am voting for John Mc Cain.
Not out of ‘childish spite’ . Not because i think Obama is a racist. Not because Obama is black. It has nothing to do with this nonsense.
I would rather have McCain because he is mature and experienced enough to run the country. I would trade off universal healthcare for stability in the world .
I do not believe in radical withdrawl from Iraq. I would have NEVER invaded Iraq, but too bad. We are there. If we leave, the same IDIOTS who attacked us on 9/11 will surely become far more powerfull.
Nothing Obama has done in this election has ever convinced me he is responsible or mature enough to run the country. He is a fantastic public speaker, and is highly intelligent.
But he really does fumble around when it comes to judgement, and he speaks too loudly in philisophical terms, and rarely in concrete terms.
He relies heavily on his aids or the teleprompter to keep his head around issues. Talking about issues doesnt come naturally to him. He does better in a ‘speech’ setting rather than a tooth and nail negotiation setting.
This notion that a pied piper can come along and wave a magic wand to save us all is surreal. Its a political ploy to feed off our worries and insecurites.
The problems this country faces cannot be solved with a left wing platform no matter how loud Obama whines to get republicans to work with him.
We need someone who will get the job done. Hillary clinton will get the job done. Mc Cain to a lesser degree.
Obama will NOT get the job done. He doesnt have the experience or temperment to be president. He just has the speaking voice.

Obama should concede. Karl Rove already has his next manufactured scandal prepared. Barrack Obama’s surrogates love the masochism of humiliation..once again !! What does Obama care, anyway?

Obama is very talented as a politician, very intelligent, not divisive and he can probably beat McCain. He’s vulnerable on some fronts (the fact that he’s part black may not help him win many southern states), but McCain is also vulnerable.
McCain has made scary statements about foreign policy which indicate his tenure would be prone to more wars that will likely damage the American economy further.
As for Clinton, she is desperate and is at the stage where she is “throwing the kitchen sink.” Too bad, she could have gone out in a positive way, with people regretting her – now it will be a relief when she does eventually quit the race. It looks like her strategy is to stay in until it becomes absolutely clear that she can’t win – in any way, even by taking down Obama at the risk of paving the way for McCain.
She is probably calculating that if McCain wins, she can challenge him in 4 years, when he’ll be like 76 if he lives that long.
But with this attitude, I just don’t see how she would win in 2012, everyone will just remember her bitterness.

“Vote Hillary for President………..vote Expat for dogcatcher.”
There always has to be a village idiot somewhere. Darbo – YOU WIN!!

So what is the deal with the American media? Even the British media is calling the American media Obama-phile. Are we being Oprah’d? You know, the same woman who brought us the spectacle of Dr. Phil as well as that lovely school in Africa where children were being sexually abused? Or is the problem much bigger than that? I know we have some very fine journalists, particularly in newspaper (some of them), I just wish we had more of the Wall Street Journal and less of Jerry Springer and Entertainment Tonight!
Hillary isn’t a perfect candidate, but at least her positions are consistant with her voting record, we have a fair notion of what to expect. Remember the NAFTA flap? So… after the bare faced lying denials didn’t work out for Obama… did we ever get a clarification? No? So, would Hillary have gotten away with that? No? Do we have any credible position from Obama? No? And that isn’t a problem why, exactly?!

Nasty Buggers — Thursday Whip

The Borgias of U.S. Politics ‘E Can’t Win Nasty Buggers! Bill’s Tirade Judge Blocks Clinton Deposition The old FBI files story Gore’s Conspicuous Silence Rove Likes What He Sees Bedtime Totty

It’s pretty scary how quickly a segment of the Democratic Party jumped on the Obama-wagon when the guy is clearly not ready to be President. Three years in the Senate – and running for President for two of them. This is another Jimmy Carter just waiting to happen. Unbelievably bad judgment.

Hey “lesser evil” – If you wanna read up on what I mentioned about McCain, just type “McCain Keating” into google, its loaded with info. As far as the little woman, type in “Cindy McCain”. The whole story on her is at Salon News.

McCain, a liberal? What Kool-aid are you drinking? McCain will continue the same nonsense that has bankrupted this country and caused 4,000 American deaths in an illegal war in Iraq. Yes, we are bankrupt because the middle class has been gutted, and these are the only people that historically pull the country out of recession with their tax base. Ask the oil companies or Wal-Mart for help out this time…lots of luck.

Wake up voters? Are we so desperate for “change” that we would actually cast a vote for Obama or Hillary for President? I agree with most that we need to alter our course, but do we need to drive over a cliff before thoughtfully considering our vote? Folks, Obama and Hillary are not prudent choices. I doubt Obama even knows the sport played by Mickey Mantle or the last name of America’s most decorated WWII soldier named Audie? Hillary probably knows, but wouldn’t be able to explain their significance to our American heritage and history. I wonder why? If this what our great country has become…candidates such as these two?

as for Mccain aka the warlord, he will not win the Gen Election simply because most of the electorates were tired of Republicans.

Are we really supposed to take any of this seriously?
Three Narcissists who believe in nothing but their own careers. You can’t really vote FOR any of them, if you have half a brain at all, the only possible motivation for voting would be to VOTE against _____

She was right. Obama can’t win against McCain and the 527′s. If he can’t take this campaign to the convention, it clearly shows he doesn’t have the backbone to be president.
Furthermore, the election in November will not be decided by caucuses than can be filled with college students whose registration isn’t even checked.
Obama can’t beat McCain. He is not electable. And, I’m one of those Clinton supporters who will be voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination and my son says he will too.

It’s pretty ironic that the party that rails against the elite, and warns of back room political deals is the party that may well resort to back room deals of elite superdelegates to deny the people of their voted preference…but don’t let the facts get in the way of a good time.

erik – my sentiments exactly, it all boils down to choosing the lesser of evils

Just LOVE watching PC-blinkered Democrats smacking each other like swinging piñatas! Every contact shows how utterly bankrupt liberalism really is.
Its actually more fun than the Republican primaries, because they are so predictably practical.
But Dems really ARE idiots— deeply, truly, thoroughly. It doesn’t get any better than this!
Cheers

BILL CLINTON WENT ON A TIRADE?
ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS PUNCH THE LIGHTS OUT OF ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS IN THE MEDIA,ESPECIALLY, FOR ME.
THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY!!!
LYING BACKSTABBING IDIOTS.
CLINTON HAS PROVED HIMSELF FOR 8 YRS. WHAT HAVE THE REST OF THEM DONE, THAN BACKSTAB THEIR FRIENDS AND GOSSIP.
BIL RICHARDSON THOUGHT HE WAS A HERO-
HE IS CALLED BILL “JUDAS” RICHARDSON-TRAITOR

The Clintons are right. Obama will not win the election. Most of us “typical white Americans” as Obama calls us– will not vote for him based on his dismal performance as Senator, his Illinois voting record or lack of it and his association with people like Rezko, the Black Panthers and that racist Wright. Had the media portrayed him accurately he never would have won alot of those primaries. He givesa good speech but talk is cheap. He has been described in the Senate as “folding like a cheap suit. ” Obama admits he couldn’t get much done in the Senate and what he did accomplish in Illinois was handed to him by others who did all the work. When the Republicans get a hold of him they will dig up more dirt on him and the Democrats will lose. They deserve to lose if they choose Obama. I, and many others will cross over and vote for McCain. We don’t feel SAFE with Obama.

Gun powder minded John Mccain will not win Gen Election, but in case, which is 0.5% possibility he wins, we will bomb bomb Iran that is for sure and more foreclosures and jobs be shipped to China will be expected.

I am amused by the majority of these posts. They are done by either wet-behind-the-ears who wouldn’t know what is good for our country if it bit them in the butt, dyed in the wool socialist wannabees or complete idiots. Hillary and Bill are seething because something strange happened on the way to the coronation, some upstart smooth talking guy who has NOTHING but an ability to give a smooth prepared speech. Keep up the good fight Dems WE LOVE IT!!!!!!

Centava, your little minded smug name calling is exactly why America is sick to death of Republicans. Anyone who thinks Republicans are practical is destined to be the butt of a joke. I encourage you to keep making these kinds of posts at as many sites as you can. They do more to turn people off to your party than the Trent Lotts, Newt Gingrich’s and Bill O’Reilly’s all put together.

If the Dems lose in Nov., it will be Bill’s fault.
His ego is getting bruised and he can’t wait to see the new selection on interns in the WH.
The thought of missing all that potential “new action” must be driving him nuts

HOW CAN HILLARY SAY BARACK CANT WIN WHEN HE IS BEATING HER IN DELAGETS AND THE POPULAR VOTE AND MOST STATES WON. IS SHE REALY THAT SLEEP DEPRIVE.PLEASE SOMEONE TELL HER THE FAT LADY IS WARMING UP AND THAT ELVIS AS LEFT THE BUILDING.

Americans hide your money and your guns, because it doesn’t matter who wins this election – Obama, Clinton, or McCain, the next government will be coming to take it all from you.

To have so much and be so shameless.
They must have trouble sleeping at night..
Liar-liar pants on fire.

No negroes for President. He will just make all the white people pay extra money in taxes for them reparations. Then we will have to take the fight to the streets and take care of this little black problem we got around here.
No women either. I don’t want no new tea party laws.

The superdelegate system is an exact example of how ineffective the Democrats govern. They had a fear that the free market process would not work, they intervened in that process (developed the superdelegate system), and overlooked the unintended consequences. Now they are staring in the face of that failure and lashing out emotionally instead of addressing the issue. Its unbelievable that they are going to negotiate over Mich. and Fla. rather than vote – they have no concept of what this country is and why it was founded. They are anti-free market capitalists and anti-democracy.

Superdelegates: the Democratic Party’s back-room mechanism for keeping the black man in his place… on the Dem Plantation.

Atta boy Gary! Here, here. They’ll have to pry my gun from my cold dead fingers before they turn my country into some Canadian style socialist camp. Geez. We are the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn’t have some type of universal health care for our citizens. It’s not only he who has the most toys wins, but it’s he who has the money for insurance lives. What do you think the US Postal Service, Fire Departments, Police Departments, all Federal agencies are. Socialism. We are not a true capitalist society we have a lot of socialist concepts integrated into our country. The only way we can make it truly work.

Here are some interesting observations: (1) Democrats usually spout rhetoric of a socialist utopia where all are equal but yet they have created their own class struggle with this delegate-superdelegate nonsense – which could end up giving the nomination to someone who doesn’t win the popular vote. Talk about destroying your party from within. (2) Both candidates are talking about their electability over McCain, but yet neither can beat the other to even get to that point. (3) Hillary Clinton will never acquiesce. Period. She doesn’t know how to lose with grace (or win with humility for that matter) and if and when she does finally have to give in, it will be a meltdown of Biblical proportions. What does that say about her character? (4) You can’t have it both ways. Consider this – the people don’t want to elect a career politician, and the people don’t want someone who is naive. That rules out all three candidates.
None of the candidates have a strong personality that is both likable and genuine. Hillary comes off as being shrew-like and aloof. Obama comes off as disingenuous and smug. McCain is portrayed as doddering. This will be the worst election since Polk v Clay in 1844, but the most significant since Wilson beat Roosevelt and Taft in 1912.

Obama is one of my senators and I really like him. I do not have any problems when I call his office. They have always been very polite and been honest with what it taking place. When I receive email from his office it is not upsetting as to his standpoint. It is not hard to see why Hillary is staying in the race.
Bushes & Clintons – Bushes & Clintons – People don’t realize just how cozy they have been for years and years.

morris the idiot,brain lizard and ugly ass. God created man and man are all created equal, The american Indians are the real owner of the Country called USA, and telling us that negroes have no right to lead this great nation shame on you to say that only whites have the right, your soul is now in the septic tank idiot.

Super Delegates is also a counter productive idea to make the democrats a party of the elite. If you think you have a voice you are mistaken. It’s all about political expediancy–what hypocracy.

Fas.cism \ ‘fa-,shi-zem
A political philosophy, movement or regime(as that of the Fasciti)that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for central autocratic government….Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, tenth edition.
Look folks, let’s be honest,the Democratic party, with all it’s schemes to centralize control over practically every meaningful element in our lives – is the modern American fascist (light) party. Even their senior Senator (sitting in Washington right now; Robert Byrd) is a past Klan member.
The opposite philosophy, that of extolling “the accrued benefits to society at large in the enlightened pursuit of individual interests” – the Republican mantra – is the best system. All else is a dangerous utopian pipe dream, like the nazis, the bolsheviks, the trotskyites, mao, fidel,now chavez who have come before them. This is true because of the simple fact that people, as indivuals, will always act in their own enlightened self interest anyway.
Why don’t we look for ways to “split the difference”. We’ll give you some fish to eat even as we teach you to fish. However, if you refuse to go fishing for supper with the rest of us when once fully trained and able, we’ll have to call you what you are – a parasite – and marginalize you and your opinions.

If Hillary Clinton does not win the nomination it will mean one thing; The Republicans have won the war they started back in 1993.
All the Dems who call Hillary a witch and such have simply fallen for the smears the Clintons have suffered for years. Fair weather Democrats all. Ask them why they harbor such hyperbolic feelings and not one of them can give you a reasonable, rational answer.
Obama just isn’t ready to be President. Hillary is. Don’t like her? Fine. She would still be the better leader for America.
Vote for Obama and suffer the consequences. You can’t say you weren’t told.

All of these candidates are suboptimal choices for the position of President, as all of them lack critical, sustained, and significant executive experience. The three with that experience (Richardson, Romney, and, gag, Huckabee) are all gone. I’m ready for a President who’s not white. Hell, I was ready thirty years ago. Obama’s just not the guy, not yet anyways. He’s articulate and smooth, even moving. I don’t think he’ll have the slightest idea of what to do on day one, and there is little in his background that suggests he is prepared for this position. However, there is much in his character that suggests he would be the right person after proper seasoning. Sadly, he will be President too early. It won’t be the Democratic equivalent of nominating Bush, since Obama has a conscience, but it will be a mistake.

Let’s face it. Neither Obama or Clinton will win. A preacher and a Clinton lie has buried these two.

I think the number of representatives, etc. endorsing Obama is a message to the Clintons that SHE can’t win. Or maybe a message from them that they are tired of the same old Clinton bs and want them to simply go away. The Clintons are extremely arrogant people and that goes all the way down to Chelsea. Any state which voted for Clinton will also vote for Obama in the general. Those states are Dem states.

I won’t vote for anyone who lies so brazenly about being under sniperfire in Bosnia.
Obama will be the nominee and thank goodness the Clintons will be off the national stage for good.

Obama is hype and it is sad to watch the former Clinton press secretary continue his anti-Clinton reporting. It’s like a joke Jessie Jackson told in the 80′s about himself and the Pope. Both men walked on water; the press reported it this way: Pope performed a miracle; Jackson can’t swim. In this election Hillary is in the Jackson role when it comes to the press.

Dear Alexis…
People are NOT equal. Face the facts. All human, but no way equal. The Chinese are the smartest, then the whites then the Mexicans then the blacks. If a black has some white in them then they have a chance of getting some brains and it helps make them more equal. But with that black in there there is no hope except on the basketball court.

We have two socialist partys. None of them represent the American people. God help us all.

Obama can’t win? Hillary Clinton has no concept of herself. Again, I fear that she has a pandering inner circele (like Bush) that shelters her from real perceptions and skews her self-perceptions. It is she who cannot win.
Her perceptions and her deceptions make her a flawed candidate. She lied about NAFTA, and she lied about Bosnia. It’s frightening to realize that she might not even realize she is lying; I guess the other possibility is more frightening.
Either way, she is the far lass electable candidate come November.

This is for Billy, the guy who thinks he has a handle on US military issues:
I am in the military. You know absolutely nothing of which you try to speak…so just zip it. I don’t tell you how to fashion hair at your salon, stay out of my business.
Regarding the economy, keep spewing hatred and lies. We are not in a recession, Google it, you will see what a recession really is. But here’s a quick notion for you regarding the ecopnomy: You say we are in dire straits, do you really think doubling our taxes (per Obama’s AND Hillary’s plan) will help those who are in financial hot water?
You and all the democrats just continue on your schizophrenic path to defeat.

Who really cares. The Democrats are leaderless and clueless when it comes to almost any issue in this great country.
The 100th Do Nothing Democrat Congress has the worst approval ratings in the history of Congress.
The DNC can’t even put together a process for states that moved their primaries forward. (They could have just copied the GOP process)
Simply put, Obama and Clinton are probably the weakest and most unqualified candidates that the Democrat party has ever submitted.
Either one even comes close to having the “leadership” skills as someone like John McCain.

Obama CAN beat McCain. Sorry but half of politics is image. IN a debate you have McCaain and Obama together on stage, I promise you Obama wins.
Hillary has the highest negatives of any candidate ever running for the office. She is unelectable. The other thing is the way the both of them behave (hill and bill_ reminds you again of how sleazy they really are. They simply will say anything to get elected.
Also Hillary can win PA by 20 points and they may come out with a net gain of a few delegates. She Cannot catch him in delegate count. That is a reality. The nomination is Obama’s and it is driving the Clintons nuts. It was supposed to be her. Ya gotta love it.
McCain is dead and comes back, HIll is a certain winner and she loses….God bless the voters..

Its pretty cut and dry at this point. HRC winning is infinitesimal AT BEST. Seriously, its absolutely ridiculous at this point. It is over..why don’t HRC supporters simply suck it up and bow out with the ounce of grace thats still left. There is no more game to be played…

Obama cannot win. Look a the latest swing state polls where Clinton beats McCain, but McCain beats Obama or Obama’s lead is a fraction of Clinton’s.
When the Rev. Wright TV ads run all of October in swing states, there will be huge block of voters who either do not show up for Obama or vote for McCain instead.

People said Obama won primary’s. He mostly one caucus states. I think he had 1 or 2 primary’s that he won. That is why he won’t win in November. There are no caucuses in the general election. Besides that the Republicans are going to dig up every little piece of dirt that, to this point has been uncovered.

Saw Obama on Hardball last night…..Wow, I was leaning towards Hillary…however….My vote is now going to Obama. His plan about not being a “permanent presence” in Iraq…AWESOME! (unlike McCain who is willing to leave troops in Iraq for 100 yrs or more). Obama wanting to put the 12 billion dollars we spend EACH DAY on the Iraq war and put that money into early childhood ed. for urban areas, etc…raising teachers pay, as well as give them incentives to continue their education in the teaching field.
Regulating Bank loans to college kids, so that when they leave college they dont have huge student loans…..Also making sure there are more Federal Grants, less bank loans.
Amazingly, I havent heard Hillary say anything about her plan and what she will do…All I hear is her talk about how she has experiance, how Obama is this and that.
Yet Obama, says nothing disparaging about Hillary and keeps his talk about the issues. Also, I find it intresting about something Obama said last night.
Chris Matthews kept bringing up his Pastors tyrade…and I think Obama made a wonderful point. He said roughly, “This is a great way to detract from the issues at hand, nothing I can say will make everybody happy, but this “clip” still wont keep people from losing their houses, losing their benefits and losing their jobs’! Aint that the truth.
He did a great job…and he will get my vote come NOV!

Barack Obama made a mistake in choosing to run this year. When he won his US Senate seat in 2005 he is on record stating unequivocally that he would complete his first term in the US Senate. He went on to say that he did not possess the experience to be president. Shortly after these statements were made, Sen. Obama formed an exploratory presidential committee.

Now we know how a pathological liar (Bill) reacts when someone lies to him.
I’ts quite revealing, the Democrat Party, home of all the open minded, loving, accepting, progressive thinking people, is ripping itself apart over a woman and a black man wanting to be their Presidential candidate.

Just like Shrillary to get shrieking and hysterical when she’s losing. And Bill doesn’t seem to understand that the more he tries to fight her battles for her, the weaker she looks. I’m not crazy about McCain, but I’m voting for him. What a bunch of losers the Dems are, running Hillary and Obama.

Hillary, has done nothing but lye thur this whole campaign, Between all the clintons there is nothing you can believe.She pretty well knows she lost, she’ll never beat McCain on his worst day. For the Dems they can take the White House with Obama and out an end to the last 7 1/2 years of the down grading of the US.in front of the world. This lady and I say that very loosely it a power hungry liar That has been said to be like RFK is more like Castro in a skirt

As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule?

All this discussion of electability should be focused on the independent voters. Which candidate can motivate the most votes from that pool. If we consider that Democrats (hardline and moderate) make up about 30% of the electorate and the same thing applies to the Republican party. The candidate that will win the election will be the one that inspires the base to get out and vote and, more importantly can inspire the most support from the independents.
In looking at the three candidates it appears that McCain is struggling to inspire the party’s base, but has strong appeal with independents (except for the 100 year comment). The Democrats can than ‘W’ for inspiring the base, more than either of the candidates. One can argue that Obama is slightly more popular/inspiring to the base (based on the numbers). The real clincher for me is the perception that “Oh my God, not Clinton” message will resonate with the Republican base and consolidate the base for McCain. Thus, due to the independent voters I believe that Obama is the candidate most likely to win in the general election, followed by Clinton, just slightly ahead of McCain.

Whaaaaa …. whaaaaa. More immature crying from the Clintons, that happens to be quite false…..again. Loser, Liar, NOT experienced ….. why would any intelligent person vote for her after she has proven that she cannot be trusted for one day to even tell the truth…forget about managing the country.

Obama is not ready to be a president… Hilliary 08 or McCain 08

He can beat her…..

HRC=Glenn Close(Fatal Attraction)
Mrs.Bill Clinton, or should I say Clinton-2 cannot win.
She faults Obama for his pastor but shuns any talk of her husbands misgivings with women,veracity,women, veracity, temper!!!
The sooner the Clinton and Bush families disappear from our political landscape the better off America will be.

Axiom – please vote. Surely you can vote against the lesser of two evils – whatever that is in your opinion. If you don’t vote, you deserve what you get. And not just in Presidential elections. My wife and I get active in school board elections. I am apalled by the apathy out there for the people that control education in the community. I get frustrated sometimes with the choices. But if we don’t vote – it means we have given up and don’t care. I implore you to vote – a lot of people died to give you that right.

Obama has racked up delegates through an organized caucus drive. If you look at the Primaries, he has obtained a few significant wins. In reality, mile by mile across America, Hillary has been the winner. Obama’s strength is in the some major inner metro cities. Clinton has won the rural, general votes. This has been the case in Ohio, Texas, and Missouri that I know of.

It’s hilarious how desperate the Clintons have become. Obama is smarter, a better organizer, obviously a better money manager, and has outsmarted, outwitted and outplayed the Clintons.
Hillary’s lies about Bosnia ended her credibility and she is now toast among vets and blue collar workers.
Al Gore gave permission for Obama to publicly state that he would be part of his cabinet. That’s all, folks. It will soon be over. She will be lucky to win PA after having a 29% lead, and the race will end in North Carolina where he will destroy her.
As to McCain, he is tied to the war which is costing us $400 million PER DAY and is the reason our economy is in the toilet. Obama will bury McCain on those two issues alone.
All you racists out there — stuff it! By the way, Rev. Wright was a decorated Marine who received special commendation for being the cardiopulmonary technician who worked on LBJ during his heart surgery and whose great work saved his life. Get the facts, racists.

Mountain Jack….Loves it! Keep it coming! It seems u and I are some of the only ones who actually researched the candidates! lol

Michelle,
Polls yesterday showed that both Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly say that Obama is a much tougher candidate to beat than Hillary. Half the country hates Hillary and Bill, and she can’t even get 50% of the Democrats to vote for her. She is toast and Obama is the oven.

The Clinton’s has run a dirty “no holds barred” campaign, and unprofessional.
The Democratic Party delegates are starting to Unite behind Obama!

Obama is beating her in every measurable category. Her only hope for winning is if the super delegates go against the democratic voters.
If she can’t win against Obama, a democratic candidate. How can she win against McCain?

It sickens me to think how this race has turned out. I am losing hope in our political system. I just want someone in government to do their job and stop all this crap!

Time and Halperin are saying that the “Barack can’t win” comment came from Richardson … any thoughts?

Word to the ill-informed OBAMA IS HALF BLACK…the other half WHITE! Therefore his children are not black, they are 3/4 black and a 1/4 white! If he truely felt they way you all are making it out to be…dont u think his “white” family would dis-own him?
He said last night that his family comes as white as Margaret Thatcher and as black as Bearnie Mack.
How about holding him accountable for the words that come directly from HIS MOUTH!
If all you people can do, is trash his pastor, then clearly it shows just how one-sided, single minded you are!
If Obama stood at the pulpit and said “God Damn America”…they you’d have a very valid arguement.
But unfortunately for u…he didnt. So how about you all let the pastor crap go and focus on what matters the most…..OUR FUTURE and THE ISSUES THAT FACE AMERICA RIGHT NOW!!!!

Rush Limbaugh was trying to get his listeners to vote for Hillary so she would run against McCain and lose. Obama has a chance but Hillary has no chance in hell of beating McCain. If the DNC gives her the nomination she will lose and the DNC will lose a lot of it’s African American base. Every year more blacks leave the party because they are starting to make more money and becoming conservative. If they screw Obama over this they will lose many more and may never recover.

Mountain Jack: HAHAHAHA That was funny..thanks so much for the Chuckle!

So much for Obama for being a uniter and not a divider, He can’t even unite his own party.

There’s a big difference between what’s behind the charisma of Bush & Obama. Obama is brilliant, Bush is not. Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review — a place reserved for geniuses. Bush’s father negotiated W’s entrance into Yale.

Bill and Hillary should come to grips with this simple fact — this election and public rejection of them is not about their positions or lack thereof –it is about HILLARY. She cannot be TRUSTED. The “BIG WHOPPER” about coming under fire in Bosnia is indicative of why Mr. & Mrs. America does not and cannot trust her. Her becoming the democrat’s nominee will be their biggest downfall. Repulicans cannot wait to shred her into pieces. SHE CANNOT WIN PERIOD.

“If Hillary doesn’t win, I will vote for McCain, and so will my family?” Is this because he is African American? WOW….what an IDIOT!!
And if this is NOT a race issue, then HOW could you POSSIBLY jump the fence like that and vote for “Grandpa”, just because Hillary (who doesn’t have a chance in HE** to catch Obama) won’t win???

Barack is unelectable in the general election because his coalition is only strong for the democratic primary. His demographic is white liberal voters and blacks. Both of these are not swing demographics. They generally favor democrats in all general elections. That means they will vote either Hillary or Barack in the general, regardless of who the Republican candidate is. It is very hard to imagine liberals or blacks voting en mass for the Republican.
Working class whites, older whites and hispanics are swing voters (all Hillary’s core demographics). They can sway the election either way depending on who they turn out for. Unfortunately for the Democrats, McCain is probably the best suited to take their votes among all the Republican presidential candidates.
From a Demographic standpoint, hispanics will probably favor Hillary, then McCain and lastly Obama. So if Barack runs against McCain, he loses the southwest states to McCain.
Working class and older whites split between Hillary and McCain. Barack is, again, last. This is reinforced with the anti-american, anti-white speaches from his spiritual mentor. So, again, if it is Barack against McCain, McCain wins OH, PA, MI, Fl, and NJ. Barack will lose by less than Hillary would’ve in Iowa, ND, VA, SC, and other red states due to his appeal to disenchanted Republicans, but he would lose those states nonetheless. They are simply too red.
Hillary, on the other hand, beats McCain with hispanics thus winning a few extra southwest states. She wins PA and NJ outright because they lean Democratic, all other things being equal. She competes in OH, Fl, and MI, probably carrying 2 out of 3 due to the anti-Republican sentiment carryover from the Bush administration.
That is why Barack is unelectable.

“David Axelrod is also a gay rights activist.”
Ooooh, what a scary post! Not – - (gasp!) a “gay rights activist!”

Barack can’t win??? Where does that come from??? He’s beating HER!

How does it help the Clintons to spend two weeks attacking a popular governor who said that he believed Obama was a special candidate, but that he would always have a soft spot for them? It doesn’t even make them look like grown-ups, much less Presidential.

Obama may not win, but Hillary cannot win. Do the math– divvy up the diehard Republicans on one side, and the diehard Democrats on the other. Everyone else is up for grabs– and, obviously, Obama is the one who has been getting that vote so far. In my opinion, this is a subtle appeal to racism, the “a black man can’t win” argument forwarded by Clinton surrogates (and Billy-Boy himself, with overt attempts to link Obama with Jesse Jackson). If you don’t vote for somebody for this reason, some of this is on you.
Ironically, I feel that “a divisive woman can’t win,” with the (unfortunate) understanding that this makes me a misogynist by extension.

“He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win.” Interpretation of this statement all depends on the word emphasis used when she said it: Like “He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win. (Sob! Sob!)” or “He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win. (The SOB!)” I expect that true to her teary self, she said it the first way. So don’t beat on her. Instead, fluff her up a bit.

So… Obama raked in over $40,000,000 in March and more than $55,000,000 in February… Clinton isn’t paying her bills and has no real ammunition, so she attacks everyone that Obama has ever been associated with (safe tactic, considering most of the skeletons in the Clintons’ closet are actually and mysteriously real skeletons now)… And she think that she can get more support?
I used to be a big Clinton supporter, and would have voted for Hillary just to have Bill back in the White House (it’d be nice to have a stable economy again).. But I started looking through a different lens about six months ago, and personally, the Clintons seem desperate, spoiled, and willing to damage their own party if she doesn’t get her way. Seems to me that Obama actually wants to lead the country and make positive changes, and Hillary just wanted to be the first woman president. I’ll take policy and agenda over birthright/sexright any day.

Hillary is a better candidate for President on democrat tickets. You need moderate candidate. Obama is too liberal just like Bush is too conservative. He will be same disaster as Bush.
If Hillary is not a nominee, then it should be McCain since he is also a moderate. Extreme candidates are bad for country.
That is the reason I will not vote for Obama and vote for McCain if Obama will be a nominee, even though I am a democrat.

I’m not a DC insider per se, but I do have opportunity to be around a lot of them. For many months now the Republican campaign staff and the Republican consultants have been very open that they’d prefer Hillary as a candidate to run against, they feel they can rally to beat her, but they fear Obama much more and aren’t sure how to beat him. This may be changed somewhat by the Wright issue, but prior to that even the Republicans felt Obama was more electable. Just some insight.

Gee, the LIAR says “Obama Can’t Win”? To me, that translates into YES HE CAN!

Rebecca,
American Flag pins are made in China and Taiwan, that’s why.

Why Sen Obama will lose if he becomes the Presidential nominee.____________________
Sen Obama cannot complain about the way the campaign is conducted. —During the primary, he can complain about it and the party elders will intervene. The general election will be a totally different ballgame. No holds barred. Independent groups will attack his patriotism, experience, leadership and judgment 24/7. The more he complains about it, the more he will be branded a “cry baby” by the right wing media and it will make him look really bad._____________________________________
Sen Obama cannot put in doubt’s Sen McCain’s experience.—- He is going against someone who has a long list of achievement in the senate. ______________
Sen Obama’s patriotism or lack thereof will be magnified.—- People will be comparing a Sen McCain, a Vietnam War hero against Sen Obama whose patriotism has been put in question especially after the Wright and Farrakhan controversy.___________________________
Sen Obama will not win any of the red states.—- His only hope is to win in the swing states like Ohio and Florida where his chances are dim._____________________
Sen Obama cannot use the race card anymore.—- The more the black people coalesce around Sen Obama, the more the white people will coalesce around Sen McCain. Sen Obama’s penchant to use race has already been exposed during the primary.______________________
Sen Obama’s politics of the future argument.—– This cannot be used anymore since the primary election has exposed Sen Obama as just like any politician who received money from lobbyists, flip flops on issues and also a mudslinger._______________________
Media equal time.—- Currently the media has been biased against Sen Clinton. Take MSNBC for example, you watch Joe in AM, Chris Mathews and Keith Olbreilly and you see how the media has been biased against Sen Clinton. In the general election you will see a more balanced reporting since half of the commentators are for Sen McCain.

Almost all of the superdelegates are politicians, and relatively well-off. Why would it be a surprise that some endorsements are made to show support for the presumed favorite, rather than b/c they necessarily think he can win a GE? There’s clear pressure on African-American SDs to support Obama (everyone should be jarred by John Lewis saying that this decision was harder than the Selma march), congressional challenges are using endorsements to raise the question of who really represents constitutents, and there’s a clear message that not believing is Obama means not supporting change (i.e., shows they’re unfairly benefiting under the old system, otherwise who doesn’t want change).
Since everyone’s always looking at the personal agenda behind Clinton actions, just consider what everyone else stands to win/lose. In the end, how much does Richardson’s life really change if McCain is president? Doubt his taxes or career options change significantly if there’s another 4 years of R-rule. Don’t think he has children in the military. And, for many pols, being the party not in control has perks – you can raise the $, make the case (esp on national TV as a punditing bobblehead), AND not be held accountable for not making progress.
Richardson for Obama — all we really know is he gave his endorsement. Let’s not pretend anyone can actually say why.

i’ll will for with McCain if obama wins the nomination . Who is Obama ????
I do not trust him at all .

Hillary has her flaws and some r definitely flaws that I wish she did not have. But I support her and so i could be accused of being biased. I know that she is not perfect but neither is anyone else. This has now become a likeability contest which she is losing.
But I got to say this — her flaws have been so over examined and amplified by the media so successfully that she is been made out into a witch and a “b….” !! She lacks the sophistication of the Obama attack machine– that is about it.
And the media has waxed poetic eloquence on Obama so much that his negatives dont appear as negatives to the people.
The man never really addressed race before his “speech” — sth he did to control damage done by rev wright and he is getting so much credit for that speech. It was a good speech, no doubt but how can u overlook that it was not a proactive speech but rather a reaction to a problem?
Hillary is accused of being ambitious…! Jeeze what is wrong with being ambitious? Do u think she wont be a good president if she were to somehow win it all? She is not running for school president. I am sure there are a lot of us who have our own life ambitions aboout our respective careers and Hers happens to be the Presidency of the Country!
Do u all think Obama is not ambitious? How is it that the man decides to run for the presidency within 2.5 yrs of being a senator? I believe he started running for the US senate position half way into his state senate position! And yet it is okay for him to run for presidency.
One time he said no to the war and that is absolute proof of his judgement? What about Rizko and the rev wright situation? Dont they somewhat negate his “judgement “? He is a very good speaker and i give him credit fo that. He may be a very good leader too but what has he done in the past to prove his leadership in the political field. Community organization is done by everyone and that cannot be adequate a measure of his ability.
Bill clinton is the one who lost his cool with the superdelegates meeting in CA — why is Hillary responsible for it? ANd he is her husband and he cant get frustrated? If he loses his cool than it is ambition…crossing the line etc etc but when Michelle Obama says “she is proud for the first time blah blah…” than it okay?
Hillary should not have misspoken/lied about bosnia — I agree with that but does it mean she is nothing but a liar? COME ON!! Does it mean she has no other international experience?
If organizing community events are counted for Obama’s experience then why are her trips to 80 odd countries and the intricacies of being the first lady of the strongest country in the world — not mean anything!!??
He is charismatic and she maybe not but she is a hard worker and that is yet to be proven by Obama.
She is accused of dividing the Democratic party and that is so readily accepted by the media and a lot others…!! What about Obama saying so many veiled comments about “changing from the past to the new blah blah and having his surrogates call her flawed and divisive” as if he is going to wave a magic wand and the senaqte and congress will fall in line with him!
All Bill did was pitch for his wife — what is wrong with that?

“Can’t” like “IS has many definitions

YES raising tax from 15% for billionaire
hedge fund mangers is the plan.
Do you pay 15%
I don’t
OBAMA 08

Hillary now has the popular vote with Michigan and Florida coming to the table.
She has always had it and will have it in the General Election. The more Obama and his supporters tried to block the votes of the good people of Florida and Michigan, who did nothing wrong, the more entrenched into her corner we became. The rudeness by Obama supporters to us only makes us more determined NOT to let injustice happen to us and Senator Clinton.

All have great comments here, but a very few are thinking straight. As difficult as it is but it’s time we leave our personal garbage and start thinking about what this nation needs. Leave your emotions and tempers in your closet, just think constructive. As long as we don’t follow this these politicians manipulate us “the sheep” as someone said earlier in one of the comments. God Save this Country.

Those who have called Bill Richardson a Judas appear to have been correct. What a snake that guy turned out to be!

Lee Nguyen:
After reading that senator Obama raised $40,000,000.00 (that’s Millions, Lee)…..yes, he raised $40 million in March….”March Millions” ….Lee…
Looks like there’s a lot of folks out there who TRUST senator Obama…
Who cares that you don’t trust him?

Matt: “If you’re married making 60K, under mccain you pay 9K in taxes, under obama and clinton it’s 16,800. ALmost a 50% increase..it’s not just the hedge funds and billionaires..it’s avg people getting HAMMERED. That 7800 a yr difference in take home pay for a family that makes 60K will DESTROY them and this country if it happens.” Thanks Matt for the figures. Both Obama and Hillary claim they want to undo the tax cuts but that is only the beginning….their future plans for all their projects will make it worse than that….those figures are just their jumping off place. Another reason why neither can win…..I have seen elections for decades and I don’t ever recall even one where someone won on the platform of “I will raise your taxes”.

Perhaps HRC should prove that she can compete with him in the primaries first, before talking about Obama’s electability in the general election!

Clinton can win the general election because she was able to carry out the swing state such as Ohio and Florida. Obama had more delegate than her because he win a lot of caucus states. In general election, there is no caucus states and how can he win if he was not able to show that he can win more big primary states than her. She was able to win more big states than him and show her strength in the general election. In order for Democrat to win in November both of them must join dream ticket and Clinton is on the top. Republican will be happy if Obama is democrat nominee, they can go after his pastor’s statement, inexperience candidate and his patriosm. His speech is based on judgment and change/hope.
What’s is his good judment? If he has a good judment, why he stays around with his pastor for 20 years and let Rev Wright to become his spriritual advisor.
What are the changes he can make ? He was able not to work with the republican in the past. Do we want another Jimmy Carter?

Hillary only won Florida and Michigan because Obama’s name was not on the ballots. Also, she may have won the primary in Texas, but then she lost the caucases there and the popular vote. I do not agree with her being able to claim the two states mentioned above as wins when she didn’t have any competition because her name was the only one on the ballot for the democrats.
The military didn’t like her husband as commander in chief, I should know because I was in the service during his terms in office, so why would they like her and except her? In case you other women don’t know this, women have no say in other countries, if they open their mouth they get hit by the men. So, how is she going to keep this country safe from other countries when they won’t listen to her and feel that what she has to say is not important? Just something to think about.
Sorry for the missed key strokes in my previous post.

“Can’t”
Like
“IS”
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Clinton’s hoping that the superdelegates overturn the will of the people.

The Tony Rezko trial is heating up and now they are saying an indictment of Governore Blagdovich is “inevitable”. The corruption in Illinois politics is so widespread, it travels vertically and horizontally at all levels. Obama’s first employer, Allison Davis is now implicated, and it’s not looking good for Obama’s “friend” Rezko. How will Obama get out of this one? Another speech? Another I have been friends with him for 18 years but I didn’t know he was Syrian and corrupt? Please explain how this makes Obama electable. How many voters wish they could have a “redo” in their states now? Also, please explain how Obama’s anti-American and Arab “friends” make him electable? The Republicans will have a field day with Obama starting with the picture in front of the flag with his buddy Richardson, Edwards and Hillary.

OBAMA can’t win with females…
What about the inappropriate way Senator Barack Obama engaged a woman in Scranton Pa yesterday: Obama asked a woman wearing a Hillary button if giving her “a KISS” would help change her mind to vote for him instead. He treated this woman as a sexual thing who could be manipulated by his charm. The last thing a working woman wants is to be addressed sexually – in any manner. It subtly – and sometimes not so subtly – keeps her in her patriarchal place. I believe Obama’s comment to this woman says a lot about the ways he would address (NOT!) issues related to women’s rights in America. I just am not convinced that he is the best candidate to voice issues that concern , e.g., equal pay, sexual harassment in the workplace, equal opportunity in the military, etc.

I dont’ know why I bother reading these boards anymore, it’s so frustrating and disheartening to witness the hate and ignorance among this country’s voters. But this is the country who voted in Bush twice, so why am I surprised. Vote on the issues people, not based on which candidate you “like.” We don’t have to be friends with them, or attend the same church.

shockmando: Those figures came from another poster but a quick net look puts those at bacically hat the rates were prior to Bushes tax cuts. Both Dems want to repeal of of those. “are we really paying that much in taxes?”….no question about it…we are. All levels pay too much. The basic problem is the government spending. It is not the intake….this government is taking in more revenue with Bush’s tax cut than prior to it. Fact. The problem is Congress feels more than compelled to spend it…some quite foolishly on pork projects. People need to keep more of their money….it’s in their hands that it fuels the economy when they spend it. Government spending does not fuel an economy. Stealing from folks to give to others is wrong and taking from people that make more because they work harder/more is very wrong. Success should never be punished.

In third world countries, the joke is that a new guy is always hungrier for more graft. The older one has already had its share so at least he will do a better job. On top of this, Obama is a socialist, what is yours is mine and what is mine is mine. Watch the largest budget deficit in the making, bigger than Bush’s. It is our money and social security!

This is a big political risk for Hillary.
She may very well be telling the truth that no one in the Democratic power circles wants to hear.
But being right is sad consolation unless she is charting her strategy to return in four more years.
I for one think that Hillary is correct. But she will always be blamed for whatever defeats or disasters are ahead because no one else will be willing to take responsibility for their role in putting up such a weak candidate.

Observing Bill Clinton’s almost daily petulant temper tantrums when an audience member expresses support for the Obama candidacy suggests that Slick is very close to loosing it. The “serial groper” is unable to accept the fact that he’s trying to peddle a defective product; i.e. Hillary. This is a woman who hasn’t managed so much as a corner vegetable stand, or for that matter her own marriage; but, of course you could count Whitewater, and her tenure as “Madam” for Bill’s White House Brothel. So what possibly is there that qualifies Bill’s official “Bimbo Containment Chief” for the Presidency? Further, Hillary’s increasingly frequent crying jags raises a legitimate concern about her mental stability. But, having meticulously planned their coveted return to the White House for several years now, the Clintons will certainly not exit the scene with grace or dignity. This is the political duo that honed “The Politics Of Personal Destruction” into an artform; and, most certainly will not tolerate, who is in their mind, the “upstart Obama” to derail Hillary’s pre-choreographed coronation. Greg Neubeck

Richardson has gambled friendship for opportunity. Was he afraid to wait until time for the superdelegates to handle their part of the process? What would he have said then? No, he calculated that his chance of becoming Obama’s VP was to strike while he had a chance. Either way, he loses. It is a sad day, and such a waste.

(There is something very creepy about Obama. I feel there is some serious things that he is hiding. He may be a good cheerleader and stuff but the keys to the White House contain the key to the nuclear arsenal of the USA. Although I have to admit, I like Obama, I definetly DO NOT TRUST HIM.)
This comment devoid of any point and sustance instead of prejudice,typical of the all so desperate Clintonians today!!
How can u decide to live in illusion by prejudging(still trying to dig stuffs which you´ll never find)a neat proactive man while the negativities, mischaracterizations, and flaws)obs! Tax returns to be released of HRC are just spilling over the barrel and soaking up the public opinion.
With yet much time to go in Penn,OBAMA is already steadily gaining ground Queen Clinton struggles frustratingly and desperately to land us another political dynasty! OMG!! Are we in America in some sort of African, Pakistani or Indian democracy??

There are three good reasons for why Obama will be a formidable Democratic nominee for president. He has a strong grassroot appeal, the best economic program and is the only candidate who was against the war in Iraq from the start.

Re: to scott wells
The numbers in a primary are meaningless, although they are hyped incessantly by the media. Usually about 10% or so of eligible voters vote in primaries. So what if the “energized” Democrats voted at 2 or 3 times that rate this time? It doesn’t change the total of eligible votes, just the number who voted.
I can hear the cries of “we were robbed”, “voter fraud”, “disenfranchisement” developing in the embryonic state.
Obama will lose. Demography is his enemy. His far left views are his enemy. His choice of friends is his enemy. America will not buy it; so the media, the far left, and whoever else will buy it, will sell that the election was “stolen” somehow.
Nevermind that most of America finds his views on abortion abhorrent, or his foreign policy views naive. He will have lost because of race, or fraud, or otherwise, never because of his extreme liberal views…

What is this Two or three Vs. One, I swear everytime I hear/read something its Bill (clinton) or Chelsea or Hilary running there mouth!!!! If Hilary needs back-up now.. what does that show? We need one person to be president. Its not President(s) of the United States. Bill go sit down and have a cup of tea. You want Hilary to be president… then let he fight her own war!!!!

I’m a democrat who will likely vote for McCain if Hillary wins the nomination.
I simply don’t trust Hillary to lead objectively and morally. She takes far more money from lobbyists than Obama, and certainly more than McCain.
I definitely prefer Obama to McCain, but when it comes down to it I want an honest president. I can’t vote for Hillary.

my head is about to explode. 99% of you can’t even have a respectful debate about the qualities of the candidates. you just tear each other down. this isn’t a football game, this is our and our childrens’ future. grow up and develop a mature opinion. all of you spouting labels like marxists and radical socialists hardly even know what those labels mean or represent. pick up an encyclopedia and look up some real examples and compare for yourself. all three of these candidates are AMERICANS and so are all of us. lets have an election and regardless of who wins treat the winner with a healthy dose of skepticism and doubt, like ALL good Americans should. What ever the party, trust no one and hold them accountable!
But first and foremost… GROW UP!

The assertion that Obama can’t win is absurd. If Obama can’t, Clinton can’t.
Just consider these two numbers:
1. People who will vote for Obama but not Clinton; and,
2. People who will vote for Clinton but not Obama.
Which is bigger?
I know this is still a racist country, but it’s a sexist one, too, and large numbers of people HATE Hillary Clinton beyond all reason. It’s unfortunate, but it’s true.
Obama would clearly be the stronger general-election candidate.

WHATS WRONG WITH OBAMA?
Nothing.. But obviously most people don’t like him and it has to be because of something he has no control over that is his skin color!
Hey if you vote for someone base on not liking Obama and you know the other canadiates are not going to make this country a better place in four or more years. Then do me a huge favor, don’t come on the message boards complaining about rising gas prices, more death tolls in Iraq and you losing your job to somebody in India because you voted for it be that way. Thanks!

tom, i responded earlier..post must have got deleted. And no i didn’t factor in tax credits, child care and all that cause it’s irrelevant. The fact is Hillary and OBAMA will tax you to into financial hell. I won’t vote for either of them. If my tax rates goes from 15 to 28% i’m going to be destroyed financially. If a family making 60K has to pay an extra 7800 in additional taxes under obama/clinton what will it do to the economy? I think people get all worked up over “the issues” but fail to look at what’s going to come out of their pocket. Cause i don’t think there is ANY red blooded american out there who should be willing to go from 15% to 28% in taxes..unless they’re insane. What has any of the democrats said about illegal aliens working in our country collecting benefits, schooling, etc, or getting social security after only paying into it a short time instead of people like the rest of us who have paid taxes and social security deductions our entire lives????? You think hillary or obama is going to do anything about immigration, which CANNOT continue. If illegal immigration does continue it will destroy this country sooner than later and cannot continue to be ignored, nor can their posture on nearly doubling your taxes..I could care less about o’bama’s grass roots or hillary’s experience. How are YOU going to pay for their programs.

Why the hell can’t Oprah stay out of politics? I have seen such a ham and a camera lover in my whole life. Anytime she spends money, whe wants her dues in notoriety, right Oprah?
wch

Ha ha ha! Wonders shall never end!!
It is very interesting to see the Clinton disilusioned camp and thier surrogates conceding defeat so uncannily by not predicting Obama losing the primaries-but already projecting him in the general election which they pray he loses.
Your badlock and plan for the democratic party would not work. Obama machine has beat you hands down and is on the course to a historic precidency which the whole world and even you will be proud of. You don not need to be a brain surgent or an astronaut to see this!! The momentum ganered so far projects he-on the democratic ticket WILL still win with or without an insignificant but unrepentant fraction.

I will never vote for the Bosnia Lady.
Obama 08!

O: Maybe they got their money from Rezko!

Now if Obama will only release all the memos that exist between him and Rezko then we may finally see how close their relationship really was and the true amount of money he has given him! When Axlerod was ask to release the memos he refused!

The Obama supporters who are giving such great amounts of money to his campaign must not be worried about losing their jobs and homes or paying for college and healthcare. Perhaps that is why they are wild about Obama. They can afford to take a chance on him. Many Hillary supporters are poor and working class members of society that cannot afford to give lots of money to her campaign. They are struggling to keep food on the table and gas in the car so they can get to work. They are supporting Hillary because they know she will get to work on the problems as soon as she takes office. Obama will have a line up of people to give him a piece of paper 5 seconds before he needs to choose a name off some list so he can try to put together a committee first.

Hillary Clinton is very desperate at this point. She has exhausted herself with lies, exaggerations, red phones, heavy debts, and defecting super delegates. There is no place else to run. She has racebaited, frightened, lied and even sought to buy votes. None of which have worked, so she is now trying to brainwash the American people that he can’t win. The kitchen sink strategy has Obama still neck and neck with McCain, as McCain gets a free ride. It says that once Obama and McCain go one on one, the Democrats will win the White House and down ticket, the house and senate in impressive numbers. Hillary, your swan song is playing. Walk into the light.

Hillary, when are you releasing your tax info, I think we will find something interesting to talk about once she releases them…

HOMER
The entire left wing apparatus in this country is all about “whats in it for me”. To broadly paint conservatives and Republicans with that pathetic lie is just crazy. There is not a single issue liberals are for that does not correlate directly with immediate satisfaction and easement of irrational fear. Democrats calling Republicans corrupt is outrageously laughable. When Americans learn the truth that every tax increase against the “Big Corporations” is absorbed by the middle class, the democratic party will be all but dead.

MFM hit the nail on the head. If Americans want to elect based on catch phrases and rhetoric, yet again, then Americans will deserve another bad 4 years.
People are voting the way they are because they aren’t learning the facts about the candidates. BO is vague and doesn’t seem to have any real realistic plans. It seems more of a challenge to see if he can get elected.
The network media’s lovefest for BO has kept Americans from hearing any of the negatives – and many there are – about him. They helped convince Americans to vote W for a second term and their opinionated news reports are doing it again.

Obama supporters have to make personal attacks on Senator Clinton to make their point. Why? Because he can claim nothing but hope and change and all that other crap. Tell me three things he has DONE that will impact my life and make it better. A civil rights speech isn’t it. I still get treated the same as a professional black woman. I am a woman first and that is what has caused me to be held back. Not the color of my skin. He is a man…one day African American, the next black, the next bi-racial. What will he become as president? White? Any man who disrespects the mother and grandmother who raised him after his polygamist, alcoholic father took off for another white woman will never get my vote. How is he any different than the rest of the brothers on the street? All talk no substance.
Why didn’t his fancy speech mention how many times his white mother was called a n-lover? Or that Sasha and Malia are 1/4 white? Just another brother hustling the sisters. He keeps mentioning slavery and the oppressed blacks in America. He’s from Kenya. He wasn’t brought here in chains. His white side had slaves. Just another black brother relying on white guilt. Give me a woman no matter what color. Somebody who gave birth and understands what pain and sacrifice is. A woman knows how to put their child first. Obama has been putting himself first since he wrote that crazy a** story about a father he met for one day. A lying player of a father who took off and never supported his mother. What kind of son doesn’t have a picture of his mom on his website?
I am a proud black woman and I want my sister Hillary to lead me out of the darkness. There are a lot more black women like me that won’t come out in public and say that. And all of us see right through the sweet talking fraud Barack. Michelle is a righteously angry black woman who did not grow up in poverty and is living in a million dollar mansion. Talk about sell out. What type of black Americans do they represent? Nobody in my neighborhood. What are they going to do once they get in the White House? At least I know Hillary will have my back as a mother and a working woman.

sweet talking fraud Barack. Michelle is a righteously angry black woman who did not grow up in poverty and is living in a million dollar mansion. Talk about sell out. What type of black Americans do they represent? Nobody in my neighborhood. What are they going to do once they get in the White House? At least I know Hillary will have my back as a mother and a working woman.

The discussion is straying from the issue. Is Obama electable? If you honestly think about it – no do not be fanatic — you will see the answer is a resounding NO!

I applaud Marvita for her factual and intelligent way of thinking. Many men are “afraid” of strong and intelligent women. That seems to be a factor in this race that nobody has discussed. The gender bias is not helping Hillary.
James Beat must be feeling uncomfortable.

I think Hillary might be right, but according to the polls, she’s fibbing again. Why is it that everytime I hear a quote from Hillary Clinton I feel it’s been carefully crafted? If by some chance she did get nominated AND win the presidency, would that mean 8 more years of Clinton politics? She was asked if she really said this and her answer was circular! My God woman! Please just be honest!

In a desperate quest for the presidency, this woman is sinking her already embattled credibility to a dangerously zero level!!
Waow!! Now she has admitted never saying that OR is it another misspeak?? How much more can the American people absorb from this sleazy lying presidential hopeful??

It’s interesting that she is sending out all the blows and he just keeps campaigning. This kitchen sink strategy has run it’s course along with the 3AM phone call. Give it up Hillary the polls in Penn. are now under 9% single digits. She has a 22% cushion. America has woken up and is ready to put her to rest.

Marvita’s post was dead on.
In the beginning, I didn’t have a preference over Obama or Clinton. As time went along and after watching the earlier debates etc., it was obvious who has a direct plan of action, who can be asked a question and directly answer it, who I know can provide a better future for my children, and that’s Senator Clinton. Senator Obama makes great speeches but where is the substance?
I do not care what color/gender a candidate is. I want the best person for the job. And all we are getting from Senator Obama are inspiring speeches that are empty of solutions to our country’s problems. Also, he turned me off with his race rhetoric. I live in OK and am aware that there are problems with racial discord but it seems like he is really making it more of a problem and causing division. I am a white married homemaker/student and absolutely do not raise my children to question race, sexuality, gender, etc. So I frankly find Sen. Obama’s race talk very insulting and disturbing and believe it could cause more division than before all this started.

Here’s my take: “electability” is pretty simple. Obama is on the ballot, so he’s clearly electable.
If you’re going to argue that someone can’t win, at least back up your case with something like “candidate can’t win because s/he:
A. doesn’t have enough votes
B. doesn’t have money”
Feel free to add your own assertions, but I think Gee W Bush pretty much set the bar low enough such that *anyone* can be president (if you have votes and money).
AFAICT Obama has votes and lots of $. Clinton has less votes and not so much $. The picture should be pretty clear to you if you’re NOT chewing bubble gum while reading this.
The whole race-based “he can’t win” stuff is a bit dated, too. Seriously, being 1/2 Irish isn’t so bad.

It’s a shame that Obama got this far. If the media had covered him like they did Hillary, he wouldn’t be here today. Where was the media scrutiny and objectivity?
I hope the MSM are proud of themselves as they chose the Democratic nominee, not the voters.
The DNC can’t even count the voters in FL and MI and that’s only 2 states!
Obama says they can be seated as long as they don’t affect the totals??? They should affect both the delegate and the popular vote totals. If you can’t come to an agreement wtih Obama, why should that punish Hillary and the voters?
Some uniter, Obama. You couldn’t even unite your own church, transcender of race, my fanny.
I think you’re the one “ridin dirty” the American people. By the way, that was shanmeful of Rev. Wright and you owe the Clinton’s an apology for at the least, that. Like we are idiots and don’t know what that means. Never in my life would I ever think I would hear that from the pulpit. In front of children no less. Disrespecting a past President, another lack of patriotism as all our Presidents are symbols of this country. And you excuse the man?? You want to represent adn stand up for our country and you couldn’t even stand up to one man?
Won’t participate in “old politics”? What do you call this FL and MI disenfranchisement? How about all the lies or lack of information or record, you tell on the stump,in your TV ads and interviews and through your surrogates? How about the lack of your Senate record? How about information disappearing from the church’s website, your site, and Trumpet magazine site has been taken down where those inflammatory bulletins from your Reverend came from. That is a conspiracy Obama. How dare you want to be our President with philosophies and behaviors like that. Well, at least you did deliver that character, honesty, integrity and judgement you promised me. But it sure wasn’t positive and that’s disheartening.
Who’s in charge here anyway, DNC? Stand up to Messiah Obama Mr. Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd. He’s already conned the people thus far, be careful as you may be stuck with him.

The campaign for the White House is carried out in a circumstance where the candidates are supposed to give pronouncements about their policies and their intended service to the people. Instead what we are witnessing is a Junior High school yard brawl!
Lies, dirty tricks, false information and not a word of policy!
On January 21, 2009, we still won’t know what we have. The Housing crisis will still be raging, the unemployment will have risen, and banks will still be collecting unholy levels of interest. All because, as people we allowed the candidates to spend their time explaining why they didn’t pick Sally Rogers up in time for the prom; or why they cut chemistry in the 10th grade. Trivia that has little to do with the task at hand. But, we like sensationalism, so play that election Soap Opera for me one more time.
In the mean time Mr. McCain’s dementia gets a free ride; Mrs Clinton’s disdain for the truth is ignored and we never are able to discern the level of experience Mr. Obama brings to the job. But we love our Soaps!

LOL @ Larry Sinclair reference. Of course people are going to just make crap up and hope it sticks… what else can be done?
All this obsession about a personality sort of distracts from the issues, you know? Stuff like war, education, the public good, what it means to be more of a citizen and less of a consumer… health care, access to opportunities….
Back to electability, though; Clearly Obama *can* win. Whether or not you like Obama as a person or you think he’s a charlatan, you have to admit his campaign is being floated almost entirely by small donors. That’s pretty cool, and is something new in the world of US politics.
New and scary! Boo!

Once Big Media secures the nomination for Obama, they’ll turn on him like rabid dogs. They’ll swiftboat him so hard, his supporters won’t know what hit them.
They’ve go Rezko in one pocket, Wright in the other, and a passel of lies, prevarications, oopsies, and slithery excuses to pick from.
It’s what in store for the Democrats, I’m afraid.

My motto: vote for whoever will do the least amount of damage.
As a young person, it’s been fascinating to watch Obama come into this campaign in a way that I thought could be very enriching for our whole country. I personally think that those who have been in power the longest are the most corrupted, and the most addicted to their power. I think that this is partly why Obama is so popular with people my age. We’re all very cynical about politics, and why shouldn’t we be?
I thought it wouldn’t be until the general election that we would see the racist tendencies of our society come out, and I’m disheartened that we have flagrantly and unabashedly gone this route. If anything, an Obama candidacy can reveal to ourselves our foolish fears a misplaced discriminations. I would never suggest that someone vote for Obama because of his heritage, not for Hillary because of gender. These are both important issues, but not manifest in a single person. My limited experience tells me that people vote on a visceral level. People go with their guts.
My hope in this campaign has been to see our country confront the racism and biases that we all have. We all need to continuously question these things.
I have to ask as a side, is McCain too liberal for most? I think that neoliberalism doesn’t really count as liberalism, it’s just colonialism and hegemony in disguise.
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Richardson wants the VP nomination from Obama, if he is nominated. I thought Richardson was a man of his word, I was wrong.

Why do you ave to resort to name calling and racism diatribes Chuck? Please, your views are valuable, but sifting through it is impossible.

She’s right, he can’t win.
That’s why me and Rush are voting for Hillary in Pennsylvania.

Do any of you realize that if Hillary wins the presidency and then gets re-elected that the U.S. will have been run by two families for 28 straight years. Who in their right mind wants that?

all three candidates are the worst of the worst.To see debate or support of them turns my stomach,sick.Try getting them to comment on SPP,NAU or the future unprovoked attack on Iran(if Bush Co,with nothing to loose doesnt just do it before they end their terms in office)? The candidate who can get by American outrage the best,for an Iran attack,is the winner.

Let’s see? Who am I going to believe?
Governor Richardson or the Clintons?
That seems like an easy decision.
I don’t think it’s Bill Richardson who is embarrassed…………he seems very comfortable with his choice.
I think it’s Bill Clinton who is embarrassed that he couldn’t strongarm the Governor away from voting his principles.

mike wrote:
Please open up your eyes and stop letting the media dictate who you vote for. Please read all the stories and stop following your friends without actually READING!!!! Its really fundamental!
yes.. yes it is mike
truth is people this, mccain wants us to spend more billions and have economy go more into hell.
hillary is just a lobbyists kissass who I feel is more power hungry than anyone should be allowed. Not the person I want sitting behind the red button of doom.
Barack… for all the people who dont think he can win. Well his fundraising is majorily from the ground up. A revelution of sorts that is using the very internet that hosts ideological slanderous bullshit that comes out of peoples mouths. BUT while you all bitch and complain there are people wanting change and really would not like to see a recession in this lifetime. So before many comment here or there, please read all the candidates information and from real outside literary sources as well. Recent Rolling Stone has an amazing article about Obama for example. Out of maccain, hillary, or obama, only one has literally army of ground support. To all the people who read and actually know more than household table-talk, ty for reading.

Hey, everyone, Neither Ron Paul or Mike Gravel have dropped out of the race! It’s just the MSM won’t give them airtime. Know why? They have integrity and no dirt can be found on them. We can vote for either of them. I don’t care about their gender or color, I care about their integrity. It is time for integrity in the WH. Clintons have proven to have none, McClain has none and it is clear that Obama is suspect. Demand airtime for Gravel and Paul.

There was a time when I was pro Hillary. I’m now at the point where there just isn’t any way that I can cast my hard won vote for Hillary Clinton. In my opinion she is the one that is unelectable. If the super delegates decide to give the nomination to Hillary, I will have to vote for McCain and just hope his previous record reflects his true standing instead of the Bush rhetoric he is spouting now to gain conservative votes. I can’t imagine anyone other than Hillary Clinton being as big a disappointment as George W Bush.
Why can’t I find mention of the Peter Paul lawsuit against Hillary Clinton?Even if the man was a quack, I’d expect a simple story indicating that the charges were investigated and determined to be unfounded. There isn’t one article from a major news source regarding this topic. Yet, I can’t hide from stories telling me what Obama might or might not have heard some Sunday morning with his family. It just makes me wonder…

sorry I meant over Hillary

Read a good one on Crooks & Liars a couple days ago. It was the first mention I had seen of the two types of Republicans:
millionaires and suckers
Poor suckers.

I just LOVE Hillary’s in-sourcing tax policies she has just announced! She is FANTASTIC, and as expected, she is the lady that brings forth the BRIGHT IDEAS to make our ecomony better.
Globalisation is only good for the multi-billion dollar companies, because they can move or take manufacturing where it is the cheapest without inpunity. But hey, they are bringing products back to the US to sell and make incredible profit margin while many of our workforce are unemployed.
Hillary is right, those goods that were not manufactured in the US by American companies, must have such taxes imposed that it will not be lucrative for them to take manufacturing jobs away from here if they want to sell their products in the US. We have a huge market and therefore people-power to re-dress the situation – but we need a good government, a GREAT insightful leader like Hillary Clinton who will be there for every decent hard working American, every race and gender!
GO HILLARY, the white house is yours, You will make the most fantastic president in history. God Bless You.

as an outsider looking in i can only go with the fact the the clinton ticket is the only international recognised option for getting the USA and global economise back on an up Bill did it he put the US in the black and two Bushes managed to burn the economy either side of him.
Bush demonised Muslims yet the 9/11 killers were Kuwaitis not Iraqis just son keeping daddy happy i suppose with i got him for you

Mike Denhof, Ain’t that the truth!

The super delagates will have to look at the 527s and realize that 2 months of Rev. Wright and no one in North Carolina will be voting for Obama, not even you. Wake up, you do remember Swift Boating?

I’d hate to level-headed anaylsis of the simple facts into this “discussion,” but here goes: Hillary CAN NOT WIN THE NOMINATION! Not under any circumstances.
My statement isn’t based on what I think will happen it’s based on what has already happened. Obama’s lead is simply inurmountable.
He has a lead of roughly 160pledged delegates and a deficit of 25superdelegates. Even assuming that everything (and I mean EVERTHING) goes Hillary’s way, this lead cannot be overcome.
Assume some devastating news comes out about Obama and his current lead in the polls disappear,Consequently people start voting for Hillary en masse.
In PA, where she is currently leading in polls by 3% to15%, she is able to pull out a victory of 15%. In fact, lets make that a complete blowout of Obama. She wins by 20 percent surprising everyone. — She will net rougly 30-32 delegates.
The same thing happens in Guam and Indiana. She completely blows Obama out and wins 60% to 40% (note that polls currently show she is leading in Indiana by only 5-10 points) — She will net 15 delegates.
In N.Carolina, Oregon, Montana, and S.Dakota (states where Obama is heavily favored), the unbeilevable happens – Hillary is not only able to overcome his lead but actually squeezes out a 5 point victories in all these states. – She will net 8-10.
In W.Virginia, Kentucky, & Peurto Rico (states where Hillary is favored), lightning strikes for the umpteenth time, she beats Obama by larger than expected margins – I mean MUCH larger than expected – 60% to 40% in all 3 states. – She will net 28 – 30.
With all of this, believe it or not, Hillary is still behind by almost 80 pledged delegates and counting supers she is behind by roughly 50, and that is once again assuming that the supers break even from now on rather that going for Obama as they have in the past 3-4 months (Highly Unlikely)
ITS TIME FOR HILLARY TO GO. SHE CAN NOT WIN!!! THE LONGER SHE STAYS IN THE BETTER THE FOR MCCAIN.

So now we know Hillary talks out of both sides of her mouth. During the debate on Wednesday, she practically did a backstep on the “Obama can’t win” statement and said he can.

This is worse than watching Bush win the White House.
Obama is not capable to win this race.
Too many negatives.
Elitist
No white vote
Revered Wright
Michelle
He lost when he is suppose to be a front runner in West Virginia
No health care
He may win the primary but not the general.
McCain will grab all of Clinton’s votes
That will be the end.

Let’s see a hard fight ahead against McCain with Barrack or a slam dunk win with Hillary, this seems like a no brainer. There is nothing more to beat the Clinton’s up on. Barrack does not even know fight. They are trying to beat Hillary right know. If he wins the nomination you will then see how Republicans keep winning elections. When the turn their attention to the ROOKIE.

George Staphanoupolis in his interview with Sen Lieberman lacked any real intereaction. Sen Lieberman calls Sen Obama a flopper on the war and the withdrawal of troops. Sen Lieberman, the biggest flip from Democrat to Independent to the biggest republican supporter of McCain, is a flop with no claim to a constant position. The pot is calling the kettle black…no pun intended/

If you think Bill Richardson is your friend …
watch your back, for when you least expect it, this Judas is sure to stab you deep, right between your shoulder blades!!!

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i hope you both win but tou can’t so try your best