Charlie Cook: Clinton in “Political Purgatory”

I’m glad Hillary had a victory in Pa.

Amazing that people who don’t feel that Clinton is “entitled” is referred to as an idiot.
She cannot and will not win this nomination – the numbers state it very clearly. No way to spin your way out of this one :-)

If she wins, the Democratic party as you know it today will be done.

It’s only over if you don’t count Michigan and Florida and Michigan and Florida will have to count or the Dems don’t want to win the white house.
She’s within 9 delegates right now and winning the pop vote. Even if Obama is given 25% of the vote in Michigan from exit polls for sake of arguement, she will have won the pop vote when all is said and done and be leading in delegates, including MI and FL.
Dems either want the person with the most actual delegates, electoral college votes and popular votes to win
or they want to split hairs over proceedural minutia and lose the white house.
It’s easy. The Dems want the white house or they don’t.

For all of you Hillary Clinton Supporters
1. What has she done, besides being the wife of Bill Clinton, to be CEO of the largest company in America.
2. What happened when she was in charge of health care reform (a disaster)
3. How can you be CEO of the largest company in America and not be trusted by over 62% of the American people

Hillary Clinton should have locked the nomination up by now. She was the de facto nominee one year ago, and every advantage was made available to her. The problem is that she had a sense of entitlement to the nomination, and nothing but contempt for Barack Obama prior to Super Tuesday, so that she was totally unprepared when he fought her to a draw that day. She was too lazy to be prepared to fight beyond that Tuesday. Laziness is what killed her. Quite frankly, she deserves to be where she is now. She should have worked harder.

Hillary said:
I won that double-digit victory that everybody on TV said I had to win, and the voters of Pennsylvania clearly made their views known, that they think I would be the best president and the better candidate to go against Sen. McCain.
The reality: She won by less than double-digits 9.3% if you do the math. I don’t know why she wouldn’t be expected to win a state that had adopted her. However, everybody even the experts at CNN, ABC, NBC and FOX who said she needed double-digits is silent on her missing the mark. She failed and everybody is trying to spin, frankly have successfully turned a strategic loss into a “win.” And you folks believe–I’m glad I’m not flying soon because in this Twilight Zone I’d expect to see a monster jumping on the wing.

And just because he state this it doesnt make it true. Hillary has half the democrat voting for her who will not vote for obama in november.

“Another MSM idiot in Obama’s pocket.
Posted by: Tina from Florida”
So what exactly makes him an idiot? Charlie Cook just points out the obvious. In fact the MSM is the single big reason why we are still talking about Hillary Clinton. They want to make an exciting race when is so evident that she lost. It was clear in February. It’s crystal clear now. How can you continue to back an egotistic sore loser?
Hillary is like a basketball team that is down by 30 some points and scores a couple of baskets with few minutes to go. Except that she plays nasty throwing elbows left and right. Nothing to get too excited about. It’s rather pathetic.

Sure, Andrea, keep telling yourself that!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

andrea
they do not pick a nominee on taking a hit and getting up.
but if that were your measurement of a good president or nominee…
do you see where obama is and where hillary the queen of the democratic party is?
If she is such a fighter…then why did she lose to Obama in her own party where she had a much greater chance at winning…
So you think she will do better out in general…the woman who has been the queen of the democratic party for 15 years?
Obama is the fighter…he beat THE CLINTONS! in their own party.
It’s done.

Cook stated that with each victory she is getting no closer to securing the nomination, but in fact with each victory she is gaining in popular vote and delegates but likewise, Obama is no closer to securing the nomination.
I really love this logic of states having primaries but political bosses who don’t want people to actually be able to vote for their choice because it isn’t going the way for the party bosses pick.
The bosses were so intent on barring Florida and Michigan results because they were too early for the bosses liking, if they didn’t want Indiana and West Virginia and Kentucky and Montana and other states to vote becaue they were scheduled too late, I’m sure they wouldn’t have hesitated barring those states from participating as well. After all, they’re Obama bosses, they can do what they want I guess.
But no, bosses, we’re going to keep voting and keep voting for Hillary ’08 and put her over the top in popular vote and close in states won (and actual states that matter, not red states like Idaho that will never send a Democrat to the White House), and close in delegates.
And when Florida and Michigan slap the party bosses around enough until they get their attention, then Hillary will have a commanding lead in all categories.
Same as she will this fall against McCain.
Having said that, I know that many people will be angry either way the Dem nomination goes, and I am hopeful that we will unite behind a Clinton/Obama ticket where in eight years Obama will have the history and record we can look at to vote for him for President.
Hillary ’08

Hilly is the Queen alright lmao.You forgot to say of what>I can tell you but not very nice.
She is dead in the water …………..

Not only the superdelegates are
free agents, so are the delegates
- so to say it is over is very
wishful thinking… Hillary has
just begun!
Vote Hillary 08!

thank you pennsylvania; obama proved you cannot buy an election. democracy is alive the people decide.

“Silly DNC. Will they ever “get it”???”
They’ll get it in November, if they aren’t beginning to get it now. Nader/McKinney will be the winners, if Obama is on the ticket.
Too many people work too hard in politics to have some manufactured “post-partisan” phony jumped to the head of the line by the WORST people in the Democratic Party, assisted by “left” hotshots of yesteryear.

“If she wins, the Democratic party as you know it today will be done.”
Excellent. The DNC as it has run this election cycle is already done as far as the Democratic voters are concerned. They allowed extremists to hijack the election. No more.
Hillary is going to win this election. Where her opponent’s supporters talk about boycotts and riots, she talks about prosperity and peace. Where they talk about racism and generational warfare, she talks about economic initiatives and ending the war.
This is going all the way to the convention where the delegates will have to decide if they want to give it back to the Republicans or win. If they want to win, both of these names will be on the ticket, or it will be Hillary Clinton and John Edwards.
This is an easy choice. The pundits and the polls are wrong. The fact that the Republicans will unite to beat Hillary Clinton is the best reason for her to win. If they detest her that much, she is the right choice. For eight years Repubicans have chosen against my best interests. No more.

It’s over Hillary.

Not true none of the remaiining are swing states. West Virginia is most decidely a swing state, Kentucky and Indiana and Montana and North Carolina all recently voting Democrat.
They should all be considered swing states at this point for a new Democratic majority.
Hillary ’08

belle star; thank you for your eloquent, and insightful post. you must be one of those ‘typical’ uneducated, downtrodden, gun-toting hillary supporters. go hillary.

i love the latest fairy tale from the pundits and party bosses who claim that we will ‘come together in november’. never, we will never, forget the betrayal. loyalty to democracy before loyalty to the party. count all the votes if you want party unity then maybe we will consider it. but only after we send all the party ‘traitor’ fat cat elitists packing. kennedy, richardson, peolosi, dean, kerry start packing, your fired! democracy is alive she has risen.

Sonia trevino,
I am with you. All the Dem bigwigs made this a mess.
COUNT ALL THE VOTES!!!

Jake,
What happened to that little moment when Obama won 11 PRIMARIES IN A ROW? Did anyone question her electability? Sure, she was encouraged to bow out–no different than now.
Except, she won ONE state. ONE state and now she’s in a comeback? She won ONE state in the last TWELVE?
The media seemed to skip over those wins as significant. According to Clinton herself, “A win is a win is a win” and for Obama it was that eleven times….
Now, why does Pennsylvania matter and the other states don’t? That’s what I want to know. Why does the media, and the American people, forget so quickly?

all obama does is cling to guns religion and the antipathy of other people…
Vote Hillary 08!

Frankly, Obama is at most qualified to be
a legal assistant.

Racist?
How about 92% of the voters voting for a man because he’s the same color?
it’s not about the older generation or the younger generation, or about the rich or poor, educated or less educated.
IT’S ABOUT R A C E!
Just because it’s black against white… doesn’t make it any more right!
Hillary happens to be the best candidate of the two; she can’t HELP being white.
Vote for HILLARY!!!!!

It is obvious that Hillary is the best candidate. How can any superdelegate consider voting for Obama when he can’t win in the big states outspending Hillary 3 and 4 to 1? It is frightening to think that the superdelegates are still debating. What on earth are they thinking? Do they really believe that a candidate can win who can’t even take NY, California, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and others. The only big state state he has won is Illinois.

Jake,
Charlie Cook prediction back in 2004:
London, UK: Will it all come down to races in Ohio, Pennsylvannia, and Florida?
Charles Cook: A general rule of thumb that some people on both sides use is that whichever candidate wins two out of those three: Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, will probably be the next president. While one can certainly construct other scenarios, it all probability, that will be true.
Clinton won Florida, Ohio, and PA, correct??

American hostages
I used to believe that the Bill of Rights protected our freedom of speech, press and religion. Then the current Presidential race for the first time has a Black and a Female candidate. The female candidate is being attacked not only by her primary competitor, but also by most news networks. At the same time, Blacks suggest that most Blacks voters select a Black candidate because he is the right candidate. These same voters suggest that in this one-sided voting, race is not an issue even though 98% of the Black Pennsylvania voters voted for Sen. Barak Obama. What I find appalling is that Obama, his campaign committee and Blacks are holding Americans hostage. I think it is unfair that Black Americans are attacking those that voted for Sen. Hillary Clinton and suggest that somehow race was the primary reason. The reason Pennsylvania voters voted for someone other than Sen. Obama was because Americans found out about Obama’s true character.
Once Obama’s true character about his associates was learned, and once Americans heard Obama’s back door comments, voters voted for Sen. Clinton. All of a sudden, cable news networks are displaying one expert after another that suggest race is the primary factor voters are voting for Sen. Clinton. Yet, not one suggests that Americans are concern about Obama’s friends and associates, his recent and past actions, and Obama’s reluctance to show proper respect to American customs. Recently, the Senator from Illinois was force to display proper respect to the American flag. Obama gave numerous reasons why he did not show respect to the flag stating that one’s actions were more important. After defending his views for over 18 months, no one was fooled when Sen. Obama said, “God bless you and God bless America”. All of a sudden the Senator from Illinois use such phrases and he wants us to believe that politics has nothing to do with this sudden change. As a minority, I believe it is wrong that all Americans have to worry that anytime someone says something about Obama or a Black person, that we will be held hostage and labeled a racist. For brevity sake, I won’t discuss Obama’s views on the right to keep and bear arms.

IT’S TIME AMERICA:
It’s time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have defeated her. And proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources. In all honesty. I felt some of that too.
But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say’s that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton’s have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Sincerely
Jacksmith… Working Class :-)

The GOP must be laughing their keysters off. Set to lose, now things are looking very good. The Clintons, with their “shoot to kill” tactics haven’t just blown it for Obama but also for themselves. It would have happened to any candidate opposing her, He just happened to be there. What Bill did to Gore, Hillary is doing to Obama. She has helped close the gap in the polls and turned off a lot of voters. If things go her way, many are going to sit this one out.

thinking,
Is Sen. clinton supposed to win the nomination for obama?
obama has had a pass from everybody,
and the THINKING people-say no-this man is interviewing for the most powerful job on the planet, he should be vetted,
held under a microscope, turned upside down to see what falls out.
everybody is supposed to put their trust in him to do the right thing for everyone-and we the voters can’t even ask him a question-it is not right.
obama would not be in the lead now if the media had done its job.
and i a talking about all froms of the media.
we the voters have let the media set the agenda.-while they have pulled that ond joke on us-telling us to look over
there and we look-they steal this election from us. who is winning-the corp sponsors-cnn-msnbc and fox are not news stations anymore-they are all just a notch above jerry springer-and while they feed all the sensational crap to us
and inbetween the crap-feed us boniva,
viagra, lipator, soap powder etc.
and all of us lap it up day after day and night after night.
mag,newspapers,tv and radio, all in the hands of a few very very rich people, and they in effect decide what the national conversation should be.
once again i will say if the media had done its job in the beginning-we would not be at this point. if any of the things we now know about obama had been know earlier-this race would be between sen. clinton and john edwards,
we had so really good candidates running
people we all knew-this year 08 was to be the dems year-and maybe maybe not
we would really be having a conversation that concerns the american people-but no the media has set this course-and we are just riding it out.

Gosh think he might be telling the American public the truth as opposed to coloring it the way you have Jack?
Again….say it after me….this race is won by DELEGATES…and the supers look at and are lead by the PUBLIC that votes them into office…..they will go with the majority. This race was over a month and a half ago and EVERYBODY who knows politics knew it.
I can post 6 instances where Wolfson stated it was a race for delegates..of course that was when Clinton was ahead…darn don’t ya hate it when your words come back to bite ya?
While there may be a few supers who are so enjoying their 15 minutes of fame the majority of them will go with the person ahead in elected delegates, most states and the popular vote…yes even including FL and MI the Clinton campers are not even cpnsidering the caucus votes….and they are more that Obama has won and yes, those numbers have been sent to the delegates so the only ones still under the illusion that she has the popular votes are those they are still milking for money to pay the campaign debts. 10 million? That just caught her up to almost out of debt. She still owes 5 million more and you can bet the emails will be going out to try to get that paid too.
Go ahead and send her money LOL Actually those of us who know the facts? Are laughing out tails off.
Obama 08

“The good news for Hillary Rodham Clinton is that she’s winning a lot of battles,” the essay writes. “The bad news is that the war is pretty much lost.”
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One MINOR thing to notice: when MSM mentioned Hillary, sometimes they spell out the full name (including middle name)…
However, you never saw MSM did the same way to Obama…. Maybe MSM is afraid of his middle name or maybe even Obama is not proud of his middle name…
Every one should be proud of his or her own name because it ws given by the parents and there is nothing wrong with that…
So what are they or what is he afraid of????

Most ultra liberal democrats don’t care about all of baracks baggage:
-James Wright’s “god damn America” sermon,
-Antoine’ Rezco, got barak’s campiagn started, jailed political fixer
-domestic terrorists Ayers and Dorhn
these guys blew up 25 bombs in the US
-bitter small town Americans
-HAMAS in the church bulletin
-he admitted smoking crakc / cocaine
but most mainstream americans / democrats do:
see PA OH vote results and if the media got on barack earlier, he would never have won the earlier states he did…
FOR 16 months hillary got hammered and obama got a free ride… now that some of his skeletons are out of the closet he can’t win dem primary… look at his rresults with PA AND OH DEMOGRAHPICS
smells like mcgovern
and dukakis and gore and kerry.. the ultra liberal democrats are going to give the whouse to mccain…
PA PUTS CLINTON BACK ON TOP
FLORIDA and PENNSYLVANIA are identical demographically speaking.
Barack will be painted quite easily as less than american – wright, rezco, ayers, dohrn, farrakhan, HAMAS in the church bulletin, and the list goes on…
The republican dirty tricks bag is limitless and they can’t kill hillary — her ideas wont die.
Hillary got tough questions for 16 months as the front runner, now obama cant handle the heat unless its from the end of his pipe or cigarette.
no smoking in the whitehouse
and yes … he admitted smoking CRack in his youth…. if hillary did, she would be gone a long time ago…. Hillary fired her campaign manager in NHampshire for talking about it…. though ..the republicans are going to grind him into soup meat, if he wins …
u can’t win in November
WHEN IT COUNTS THE MOST
with out FLORIDA
and PENNSYLVANIA
Obama is electorally doa.

Ann from Mo,
I agree with you as long as there is reciprocity from Obama supports and Obama, himself. If Clinton wins the nomination, would you support her?

The democratic party is full of dummies, including these superdelegates who still come out and support Obama after his heavy loss in Pennsylvania. It’s absolutely naive to believe that Obama will win the general election if he’s the nominee. So far, there are only two presidents from the democratic party who had been elected twice. What does this tell you? In this country, republicans have a very strong base. In order to beat them, the democratic party has to elect someone who is not too left wing, but moderate or slightly conservative candidate. Hillary Clinton is such a perfect example, that’s why she can do so much better than Obama to cast catholic voters’ votes. Plus, there are many conservatives would rather vote for a white woman than a black man with a middle name Hussain, who has ties with a controversial pastor and a radical underground member.
On top of that, Hillary’s pragmatic and she has laid out many plans to fix the economy and many other issues that Americans desperately need to solve. She’s much more experienced and knowledgeable, so if Mccain wants to debate her in issues, she’s in a much better position. I just really don’t understand what’s in these democrats’ mind? So stupid! I really prefer to be an independent.

Very good point: “Cook is of course not always correct. (Perhaps most glaringly, he declared Sen. John McCain’s campaign dead prematurely, saying “the physicians have pulled up the sheet; the executors of the estate are taking over.”)
… Hillary Clinton has defied almost every political journalist in this primary. It is not over, until it is over. Obama has yet to prove that he can win a General Election. And from what I am hearing many of the people who have voted for him are now regretting it.

    “Obama has yet to prove that he can
    win a General Election.”
I’m guessing that you just didn’t notice that he has already won several general elections?  State Senator, U.S. Senator from Illinois, like that?

TCG,
You with the burnin’ house theory. The implication is that somehow Obama owns the house. It’s not Obama’s house my friend. If you check the votes, more Democrats have pulled the lever for Hillary, whether those votes are respected are not. The only house gettin’ burnt down is the one the working class Democrats live in. Surprisingly, their not riding horses and bearing torches this time around, their ridin’ limousines and totin’ lattes, but they look just like a pack of Zombies.
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Obama, completely out of touch with the working class voters!
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Wellican,
You are the only yokel perpetrating that particular math myth. The important thing to focus on is the why. It just leaves a bitter taste doesn’t it, the Obama loss. Obama could not close the deal!
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Obama and BitterGate, we’ll never forget!
Obama is out of touch with small town voters! (He’s a lousy bowler too!)
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Democracy is alive the people decide.
thank you pennsylvania for setting the record straight-obama you cannot buy this election. and all your fat-cat party bosses, and endorsers pelosi, kennedy, kerry, richardson, dean, start packing we are coming for you next. by trying to shove ‘your’ candidate down our throats you divided the party, alienated your base, and doomed any chance of a democrat win in november. put the blame where it belongs people instead of on each other. now they are trying to blame negative campaign tactics and the candidates to deflect attention away from them-the party opportunistic hotshots blew it.

More Good News for Hillary-The Blue Collar Workers know that Bill & Hillary supported NAFTA and fought to give China Special Trade Status. Our jobs disappeared & went out of the Country. If they know better and don’t have the courage to do the right thing. I guess things won’t get better for the faithful blue collars by their own admission. Bill & Hillary made 110,000,000 million dollars during this time. I don’t hear them complaining as Hillary says IT”S ALL ABOUT ME!
The Roman Catholics are just enchanted with the Clintons. Once upon a time President had the opportunity to sign the partial birth abortions bill into law not ONCE but TWICE he vetoed this. The Pope came to speak to Clinton during this time to plead his case for the brutal, skull smashing brain sucking form of killing our babies. This didn’t bother Bill or have any lasting trauma on the Catholics. It seems that they’ve bonded together even closer now. What does all this amount up to?
I guess about 110,000,000 dollars for the Clintons. They seem to be doing quite well and the Roman Catholics get autographed pictures of Bills historical Vetoing of the Bill and they both seem quite content with their place in History.

nor Obama nor Hillary Clinton will reach the 2025 delegates needed to win, there is no rule that says that the candidate with more delegates wins the nomination unless they reach 2025. It is not a math dilemma it is a dilemma about who can win the general election. Obama is unelectable. Senator Clinton can defeat McCain.

here, here, westcoastmessenger-yes let’s march to the convention.

By right Hillary should be out of the race now .She had to win PA by double digits and she did not. But in order to keep her in the race the MSM reported it as a 10 point win, when it was a 9.2 according to PA state site,and 9.3 according to CNN.Obama did stop her in PA.Maybe thats why he has been gaining SD.
Obama 08!

obama is just a walking marxist scandal.
every time you turn around it’s something else.
there will be more and more.
by november, he’ll be in a fetal position.
couldn’t happen to a more deserving marxist.

Hope Sen Clinton bears in mind that it is not about the party but about the COUNTRY.
Hope she delivers this country from an RHETORICALLY GIFTED SCARY unknown or from a BUSH SURROGATE.

We will see how she fairs on a equal playing field. I give her credit for holding serve in PA, by any means necessary. However, she clearly does not have the best interest of the party at heart, because it is clear that she cannot win, at least not honestly. She is too far behind and is she is given the nomination at the convention, the Democrats can forget about this election.

HoosierSue
lol
Obama is not George McGovern. Hillary and Mccain may be part of the machine like Nixon… but Obama is not McGovern.
and hopefully we have learned… and can use that argument you just brought up…
Look what the country got for voting for Nixon.
This IS just a case of not necessarily “older” Americans being nervous…but “Old school” politics holding sway over choices …people not recognizing that they have made choices like these before… it is out of this thought process safety on the old school party that we have failed… Bill Clinton was not part of that old school party when he won. Al Gore was (though I love him as a candidate for the President and wish he was the President) John Kerry was…
We have always won when we choose the right nominee not the embedded in the party loyalist nominee.
It is hard to change… that is why Obama is a better fighter.
He beat the Clintons in their own party where here favorables were sky high at the beginning…now you think she is going to win when HE beat HER in her own party … and she is best in the general where her favorables are below the floor?
I don’t care if it sounds “elistist” …that’s dumb.
so the way you convince everyone that Hillary is better is to trash the real candidate of your own party to try and bring his lower than hers? the guy who is the only other person running carrying the torch for these issues?
again…dumb.

So now Democrats will be held hostage by the Affirmative Action plan for electing our nominee. Thank you DNC. Since Obama and his wife aren’t grateful for their Ivy League educations, do you think they’ll be grateful for being handed a nomination that is not won with all 50 states participating, and superdelegates votes are threatened, bullied and bought? Since Obama will lose in the GE, will the AA threaten to riot like 1968 then in order to guilt and frighten Americans into giving Obama the presidency? This is the real politics of fear.
PS – Who said Hillary had to “win” by 10 points to “win” – the biased media, the pundits? Only in Obama land can Hillary’s win be labeled a loss, and Obama’s loss, be labeled a win. Wimpy loser.

calli wrote, “Who said Hillary had to “win” by 10 points to “win” – the biased media, the pundits? Only in Obama land can Hillary’s win be labeled a loss, and Obama’s loss, be labeled a win. Wimpy loser.”
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Well Calli, she did win, but she only picked up 8 pledged delegates. That does not put much of a dent in Obama’s lead. I assume you are talking about Fl and Michigan again also. Do you not acknowledge the fact that Hillary was not thinking about either state until after her beat down on super tuesday. At this point, I am almost willing to say just give her Florida, but there is no way in H E L L, that she should be Michigan in her column.

Calli looking at the numbers …to say that Obama won just because of AA…is like saying Hillary only got her votes because women 50 and over (a much larger population) voted for someone that looked like them.
There will always be a certain amount of population that is swayed by population… there are a lot more racists than their are African Americans…
and there are as many people effected by sexism as there are people voting for Hillary because she is a woman.
This argument is a moot point.
The only difference is Hillary outwardly uses her being a woman to garner votes.
Obama only uses his “race” or combination of races (that he is both black and white) to answer the claims and accusations on the other side that he is racist or that he is using his blackness…
and you can’t find me a clip that says otherwise.

Obama is afraid of brand new primaries being held in Fl and MI.
Obama is afraid of debates.
Obama is afraid of reporters asking questions.

Calli, so you are saying that it is Obama that is keeping Fl and MI from revoting? Are you sure? Where did you get that from? Was it not disenfrachisement when Hillary signed and agreed that FL and MI did not count. Had she come out ahead on super tuesday like she thought, she would have never mentioned those states.
Do you not acknowledge that point?

And Hillary is afraid of “Sniper-Fire.”

Hillary did not take her name off the ballot in MI because she was angry at the DNC for punishing MI and FL for moving their primaries up, when Iowa, NH, SC and Nevada did as well, and they were not punished. Because Hillary left her name on the ballot in MI, Iowans were FURIOUS with her, and it hurt her in the caucus – as well as the fact that IOWA HAS NEVER ELECTED A WOMAN TO ANYTHING! But now, given that the race is so close, and the PEOPLE OF MI and FL ARE ASKING THAT THEIR VOTES AND VOICES BE HEARD you are saying that it fits Obama’s message of “UNITY” by not allowing revotes in MI and FL – and everyone including the NYT has reported that Obama is blocking the revotes. Obama is running away and hiding from debating, revotes, and answering tough questions about character and connections. If Obama is too wimpy to handle this, if he isn’t tough enough to campaign in MI and FL and try and FIGHT for Americans the way HILLARY WILL FIGHT FOR AMERICANS, then why should anyone vote for Obama in the GE? Obama will never win if his politics of change is to push through radical, liberal left wing ideas. Moveonorg. and Obama should moveon out of the primary and quit hurting the democratic party!
GO HILLARY! Obama is a wimp. Afraid to debate a girl.

Calli, do you make this stuff up as you go along? Your responses are comical. Please provide one credible source to support what you just posted. Please know that the DNC and the candidates agreed to not count those states well a year before the primaries started. Hillary did not voice any protest at that time. She did not first mention any outrage until after super tuesday, coincidence? I think not.

When they are not calling Hillary all kinds of foul names the Obamacans resort to “It’s the numbers. She can’t win because of the numbers.” It’s not about the numbers, it’s about who can beat McCain. The delegate numbers we have come from a nominating process with rules more arcane than the rules for Dungeons and Dragons. (Dungeons and Dragons is a role playing game favored by teenagers, with incredibly complex rules that get argued over for hours.) How can the nominating rules makes sense if Hillary won the popular vote in Texas but received fewer delegates? Also, how relevant is the delegate count, or the popular vote count, if you do not count Florida? Yeah, I know, the rules say you cannot count Florida. Well, I say the rules are wrong. The rules are there to help nominate a candidate who can win. They are not there for the sole purpose of helping the Democratic party drive over a cliff.

You are right Calli, there is no place for rules in our society. People should just be able to make stuff up as they going along, or at least until it give them an advantage. Did Hillary voice any concern about not counting FL and MI at the beginning? End of discussion.

Clintons are just using wishful thinking. Based on what is Obama not electable? Based on what is Hilliary more electable?
Obama is leading Hillary in the GE polls Is leading McCain In the Ge polls and is leading Hillary in the primary.
Based on what is Hillary doing better?
Come on give me some facts, some base on which to come to the same opinion as you.
Without some fact it is just an opinion, useless argument.
Obmama 08

Hillary and Bill are reaching for straws and trying to fool the people in NC and IN it wont work the American people are fed up with the Clintons, Bushs, and the old sneaky McCain Bush want-to-be politics as usual. The American people are to smart for that and will turn the page. The Talk Radio Conservatives “Shook Jocks” want the American people to believe that their for Hillary but they want the fight between Hillary and Obama to continue until November to try and make McBush look good that want work either.
Obama’s state wins 30 lost 15, Delegate count 1715 +/-, Negatives are way down, Better nominee
Clinton’s state wins 15 lost 30, Delegate count 1585 +/-, Negatives way up. Not a good nominee.
Fund Raising Obama beats Clinton or McCain Expediently.
Registering new voters Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Bring the country together Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Overall, Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Race against McCain, Obama better nominee.
Obama all the way!

Everyone has an opinion. And my opinion FWIW is that Florida and Michigan will have to be counted/after a revote primary. Those people can not be left out of the political process. If that is done then once and for all this can be put to bed. As for Cook, of course, he has his right to say this but it is only his opinion.
In the long run we are known by the company we keep. No matter what we say, once the nominee is selected/elected that will reveal how americans felt about all these issues.
So far we have existed in a Patriarchical society, with Nancy Pelosi getting SOTH…that has caused some kind of a shift and for me, I want to see a female President …Hillary has Brains, Beauty and Ballz and she has weathered many storms. Obama is still being tested, he is brilliant, a fine speaker,,,,even if using teleprompters, handsome, likeable but it bothers me that his name used to be Barry S……..and then he changed it to Barrack Hussein Obama and decides to run for the highest office in the land and if his middle name is used we get anxious. How would this play out if he was elected POTUS. Would we ever be able to be critical of him without being accused of being racist. This to me is a huge stumbling block. And the other huge block is how the Right Wing Zealots will portray him if the nominee. You are known by the company you keep. Will some smarmy twit be following his every move, will some crazy go ballistic and do something horrendous, will the convention get ugly ala 1968, how is this candidate going to bring us together if his very candidacy is so polarizing.

Hillary is unelectable
Obama08

Shawn I’m a 52 year old woman I can say what I want… I am embarrassed to have the likes of an Obama and his bag of tricks represent me or my people and, don’t you think I’m alone. They talk about the blacks supporting Obama but, what they fell to tell you is that 14% less voted in this primary than past primary’s. I find him sickening to have even played my people in the media the way he has. Oh and Rev. Wright I know about him too. Have known about him since the 80′s. That crap he’s trying to feed the American people that those speeches were 15, 6, and 7, years ago is just that. I have heard tapes that were recorded as early as last year. I don’t feel like this grown man playing with my intelligance. He needs to get over himself.

The Republicans want Hillary as the nominee because they know they can beat her and have years of dirt on her. Any Democrat who can’t see that and doesn’t have the brains to have figured that one out need to be certified mentally deficient and put in a care home.

At first I was very much & still disappointed with Pelosi, Dean, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, in backing Senator Obama.
But the opportunity to really turn this country around and get back to doing the work of the American People has never been clearer.
We’ve currently have McCain & Clinton both with 35 years of consorting with Big Business & Lobbyist and amassing large fortunes just to prove it. While the rest of us have become part of their FOOD CHAIN. This clearly shows me what 35 years of experience can do for them and they’re not complaining.
Pelosi, Dean, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, are not without fault, but in reality are doing the right thing. McCain or Clinton just toss a coin – heads they win & tails you lose again. Our jobs are going overseas, higher costs for the consumers. We just can’t afford either one of them to continue to guard the hen house.