Democratic Congressional Candidate: Obama? Obama Who?

If Obama is the nominee, he will be the biggest drag on down-ticket Dems in recent memory. Particularly in the south.His record and associations provide a wealth of material with which to paint him as extreme and out of touch.
Dems should reconsider the suicide pact they’ve made with Obama. Just cause you’re on the ledge doesn’t mean you have to jump!

When the rock star candidate starts hurting the candidacies of down ticket democrats, that cannot be a good thing. If Clinton is so vile, then why aren’t the Republicans launching these types of ads with her in them?

This is a message to all the SUPER DELAGATES who are running for office. Your silence speaks volumes. You gotta let us know you are for Clinton or yor’e going down with the TITANIC OBAMA SHIP.

LOM…so you think it could be because they know they can beat Hillary? She isn’t a threat to them…they will destroy her in the general election…The Reps will do all they can to get Hillary as the nominee…

So now Obama has become someone whom people do not want on their side ….DNC is pushing this guy to be the President of USA?

And this is why another super came out today for Obama, because he is a drag on the Party?
I am sure you are aware that these super do not just come out. They have been there for some time, and in coordination with the campaign they are released.
There are more to come. Watch everyday.
Sorry I didn’t mean to taunt.
Obama08

The Obama campaign and the media going along with this great story line of electing the first black nominee has spun totally out of control, and the DNC has not stepped up and shown leadership when it is needed. The superdelegates and the DNC have been held hostage by the idea that they cannot go agains the black base of this party, and look what is happening. The Rezko trial starts up again tomorrow and the judge has already had to have one bench conference to try and keep Obama’s name from coming up. This is not good. To the media: Hillary may not be as sexy as Obama, but the story of the first woman president is a good one, and there are millions of woman and men who would watch.
GO HILLARY 08!

calli
I am am Obama supporter, but i partially like your reasoning here. How about we wait to see who wins? I think it is unfair to blame the Democratic leaders for Hillary’s problems. If she wins, then she wins. Rev. Wright has handed her gift after gift after gift after gift. If she cannot win Indiana by double digits and cut Obama’s win in NC to within 5 points, then she has issues. Right now Hillary is looking more electible than Obama, no doubt about that. But there is a lifetime between now and June. If Obama cannot reverse this trend, then he’ll most likely lose.

Lets get it out now media , Axelrod, and Obama but Rev Myron cloyd said he knew he had to distance himself three years ago on [Fox last night] he said Rev Wright has gone across the country preaching this same kind of message for years what a spectacle some, may be suprised with the out come in NC.

It’s no surprise. Believe me, it’s not Wright. It’s Obama’s skin color. When you hear the ad, it has these jungle type noises. Are you kidding me? Want proof. Yesterday, Ben Chandler of Kentucky endorsed Obama. Today, his office said they got 300 calls from the district, w/ almost all opposing his decision, dribbling out racial garbage. Sorry Hannity, you might want to look at Appalachia first, before you explode your head. The overt racism is unbearable. That doesn’t excuse hate-monger Wright, but just sayin it’s not a one way street.

Why doesn’t anyone question why Hillary’s friends and past members of Bill Clinton’s adminstration endorse Obama. This include people who have left her campaign to join Obama’s campaign. These people know Hillary better than we do. Shouldn’t we be concerned about this? Obama has not had problems like this. ANY COMMENTS OUT THERE ABOUT THIS?

Obama is the strongest candidate. That is why they are trying to crucify him. He is fighting 3-1 against the Clintons, the McBushes, the repudiated republicans, the Reverend Wrigth…And he is still standing.
WOW What a strong candidate.

BB…so right…it should be a concern, but no one wants to talk about the “mutiny of the Clinton ship”

I think the same thing is happening to Rev. Wright as it is to Hillary… THE CHANGE OF LIFE… THEY BOTH HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS… And of course Obama has to take the blame for it.

Obama is the strongest candidate. That is why they are trying to crucify him. He is fighting 3-1 against the Clintons, the McBushes, the repudiated republicans, the Reverend Wrigth…And he is still standing.
WOW What a strong candidate.

this isnt high school , you dont vote against some one you like because some one else doesnt like them!
the democratic party has alot on mccain also its not as though he is the golden child …

hello jake,
there IS another candidate for the Democratic Nominee.
Her name is HILLARY CLINTON!
I don’t give a damn if Obama and his pastor have words!
I DO give a damn about the unwarranted and unfair extra coverage you are givibngi/have given to Obama.!!!!!!
BE F A I R!!!!
That’s all we ask!
HILLARY CLINTON ’08

Vickie,
they arent going to tell you they think they can win against hillary and they arent going to tell you they think hillary is a republican they arent stupid they know people are going to vote against who they say they want!!

Hey Jake,
Well this is ad #5 using ties to Obama and/or the reverend to bring down a candidate running for office. It looks like Obama has something that is spreading in the political world and if you get to close you might catch it, and I am not talking about a cold or the flu. I hope the superdelegates are watching……

1 > Republicans are not afraid of Obama, why should they be? They can paint him quite easily as inexperienced, liberal, tied to the Kennedy/Kerry block of the Democratic party, supporter of big-govt program which means more taxes/higher spend, weak on national security and military. All of which works! Throw in personal stuff – things that Michelle has said, his back&forth on Wright (“I haven’t heard these things”, “I can’t disown him”, “Now I can reject him”), other statements – and they can pull the base together and get independents.
2> Less hard to attack HRC if only b/c so much of it is out there already. All they have to do is say Whitewater/cattlefutures/etc and the media/public reaction will be that this is all old stuff — where’s the proof? They can call up the Bosnia story – but the public’s heard it before. Best they ccan do is attack her proposals (talk about the issues!) and they can question Bill’s business arrangements and donors to the foundation/library — which may appeal to some but also runs the risks of HRC drawing parallels to Reagan/Bush Sr dealings and activities of other senior Repub politicians who come and go from administrations.
You can look for conspiracies and reverse psychology all you like, but life/business/politics is much faster and simpler than that. In other words, the Repubs are attacking the candidate they think they will run against b/c it gives them time to test out different messages before they go national and more time to bloody/define him to the public before the election run begins.

They hid in the basement to pray on the day Obama announced his bid for presidency, so that no one would see Rev.Wright. This was in the Bill Moyers interview.

Sandy ,
first of all most americans want out of the war and are still wondering about bin laden, mccain doesn’t know economy he said it himself.. he clearly doesn’t understand that this war is putting us at risk not only economically but with a defense against bin laden- you think he has what forgave us ? no he is waiting for us to get all the money we can get from other countries use it for the Iraq war he is waiting until our troops are tired or killed in iraq and we are weak and then he wants to come in with the last blow to finish us off!! we need out of this war NOW we need to fix our economy we need to give our troops a small rest plan well and go after bin laden….

HP Boston ,
he is for the poor americans and everyone knows it and you tell me one thing that he has LIED about that you see was just for kicks! then we can compare the lies that you have on him and i have on clinton- then we can compare failures too…

mona,
they were not the whole story and it wasnt as bad as it seemed , wright is out to get obama now and he is going pretty far to do it.. what about the endorsement for clinton of the nut job who said that the widows of 911 were trying to get on t.v. they loved the fact that they lost a husband because that gave them the spot light…

how did he lie about knowing bill ayers, he worked with him on a board and was friendly with him he wasnt charged with anything, was he? second of all that really doesnt work for hillary because her and her husband pardoned 2 of them that were convicted of a crime! next..
where is the proof that he said i have never taken oil money ? where is the proof that he took it?
Here are two: Obama’s long-term relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, not taking oil money.
Aside from his “church” troubles, that is.
church troubles are a bogus claim ..
now how about the money that hillary got from paul? how about her saying she didnt have anything to do with the “travelgate” how about her not admitting to asking the military to not look at her when they walked down the hall and she passed them? how about her failure to get jobs in buffalo? how about her health care reform failure? how about bosnia lie , soccer lie, who she was named after lie, the woman who died with out insurance lie
her not being for nafta lie, her being the first one against the war lie, not to mention the i didnt know my husband was doing other women lie….

Vickie ,
thats what they said about bill clinton when he was running for the white house… only time will tell i guess- im just saying dont snub your nose at obama and claim that hillary is soooo much better because she isnt she is worse !

Melissa writes:
where is the proof that he said i have never taken oil money ? where is the proof that he took it?
This story broke on 23 April. It’s among Obama-Axelrod’s truth troubles somewhat eclipsed by the media blitz on Obama’s on-again, off-again relationship with Jeremiah Wright. Alice Palmer’s another one.
“Sen. Barack Obama continued accepting donations from oil company executives and employees last month even as he aired ads in which he stated he took no oil company money, his campaign finance reports show.”
“Barack Obama still takes in oil money:

Melissa =
Actually what McCain has said is that he knows economics less than defense and national security, and that he’s not as knowledgeable about the intricacies of economic relationships as economists and experts. Not quite saying he doesn’t know the economy.
As for “getting out of Iraq”, both Obama and HRC are twisting the truth to some extent and acknowledging that circumstances on the ground (in Iraq and the ME as a whole) will dictate final decisions. Also, they’re glossing over the fact that it takes time to get troops/materiel out of a country — it’s not a few months, more like a few years. So you don’t really know what they will do.
Of all of them, McCain has come closest to saying his true position – we’ll stay there as long as it takes to get the job we need done done. No pandering timetables, no fake promises.
People who say “we need to get out of Iraq as soon as possible” should also consider what that means. Some troops/some equipment, all troops/equipment? Take out the Army and Marines, but leave ships in the Gulf and Air Force resources overhead? What’s the world’s reaction likely to be if the US pulls out and Iraq dissolves into civil war? What about Iran – let them go in or keep enough troops to keep that from happening? What will the ripple effect of civil war be on neighbors such as Turkey (NATO!) and Kuwait, or others (and on the price of oil then?) What about the “world’s largest embassy” — pull those people or leave them w/no protection?
You seem to have all the answers — go ahead, share.

Melissa,
It is politics. Every one may lie and every one is “politically correct” unless the lies are caught…
It is democracy. Every one has his/her own right to support his/her own candidates based his/her own favor and knowledge. Unfortunately, at least 50% of dems won’t share with your view so far…and currently it is not good trend for Obama either..

Sandy ,
no he said he didnt know economy because they had talked about it because the view claimed he never said that and it was proven he did… either way he worded it he still doesnt know economy and it shows when he wants to keep going with what is going on with the war in iraq – and it shows he knows little about the safety of americans on top of that- you dont think that other countries are going to let us have a endless amount of money we can get from them do you? do you think that with our men dying over in iraq is helping our stand against bin laden? do you think that a attack on us from bin laden would be easily resolved with our troops as it is now? they are tired and we have no money to launch a attack on bin laden and it only gets worse every day!!! and those are the things people are worried about.

Melissa…. you’re still bootstrapping on the McCain/economy question but not worth arguing about it. But, you didn’t really answer the hard questions did you? You can conflate troops in Iraq/bin laden, but doesn’t change the facts that there are concrete issues in Iraq that need to be considered. If not by the public, then by the Commander in Chief (to be!).

I am sooo angry about this mess. I blame Obama and his campaign for even running this time. The DNC has enough problems. He is an untested, unvetted candidate. He may be refreshing but new to the game. He should have waited four years until he cleaned up some questionable associations and past affiliations before his decision. He just jumped head first into the run for president. Now, the Democratic Party is in jeaoparty of losing in the November if he is the nominee. I am a Hillary supporter but I’m a realist.

Lois, in California:
I could not agree more. Obama was not vetted. The Clintons stated this a very long time ago and no one listened. Now the runoff from the DNC’s tragic Obama fixation is hurting other candidates. This is just plain wrong.
Poor Childers is now being attacked over Rev. Wright!! Awful!!! Shame on the DNC for not doing their job.

Childers will regret this when Senator Obama is inaugurated in January!
I LOVE YOU, OBAMA!
OBAMA/WEBB ’08 & ’12
3 NEW DELEGATES TODAY & MORE TO COME!
THE MATH DOESN’T LIE & THERE’S NO WAY THE SUPER DELEGATES WILL OVERTURN MY VOTE AND MILLIONS LIKE ME! CLOSE ONLY COUNTS IN HORSESHOES AND HAND GRENADES!
SOMEONE PLEASE LET HILLARY KNOW THAT THE TIDE IS TURNING BACK TOWARDS OBAMA!

Remarkable. Five pieces on Obama and where he went to church. But not one article on the remarks of Paul Wolfowitz, the US Deputy of Defense and one of the chief architects of the Iraqi War that has killed 4000 Americans and wounded at least 100,000 Americans.
“The American government was “pretty much clueless on counter insurgency” in the first year of the war” Wolfowitz and his neocon allies were the American government. They planned and executed this disaster. Does he plan to apologize to the families of the dead? Doesn’t this merit at least as much attention as where someone went to church?

before yesterday I had doubts about
Mr. Obama: now i know he is a fool!!

Barry has been systematically lieing
and manipulating for years…

watching mr. obama and his drama
is good reality TV! When do
we get to vote him off!!

The country has some troubles
but that is no reason to panic:
American’s are too smart to let
Barry bring us down…
Vote Hillary 08!

News that Sean Hannity will next bring up Obama’s connections to Aiham Alsammarae, who has connections in Iraq with Rezko, and Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO leader. Also, Obama was connected with Edward Said, another PLO leader, in the late 1990′s. The longer Obama stays in this race, the worse he makes it for ALL Democrats running for office. Nice to see that Michelle is out campaigning with him today! Politics of Political Expediency!!!

Melissa – You brought up the war issue, I was merely pointing out all the ramifications of “getting out now.” Since you clearly aren’t prepared to discuss it, we’ll drop it. If you’re worried about the economy, tell me how Obama’s proposed plans (identified costs exceed HRC’s by about $100 billion) will be paid for? What’s he giving up? What’s highest priority so we know what the probable tradeoffs will be?
(PS – on the “screw em” comment – pls do remember that people in the room do remember the conversation differently, and that even the person who first wrote about it notes that:
– He pointed out that everyone in that room back in ’95 was angry about the Republicans taking over Congress. The only person who wasn’t angry was Bill, who (as the HuffPo piece also explains) talked about the importance of reaching out to white southerners.
– He noted that the Hillary from ’94-’95 was a MUCH different person from the Hillary in Bill’s second term. She had moved from ideological liberal to a pragmatic leader. He says his 2001 book, in fact, has a chapter on this transformation.
– He is a Hillary Clinton supporter and has given Clinton money.

So Doug are you impersonating David Shuster now? Did you know sexism is bad? Just like racism is bad? Sexism seems to be okay with Obama supporters, just not sex out of marriage. And having friends that bomb the pentagon and police stations, and hurting the policemen working inside the police stations when the bomb goes off is okay. It’s hard to understand what is okay in Obama world. One day Wright is okay, the next day, Wright is not okay. Obama is a flip flopper of major proportions. If Obama drops out of the race now, before the Rezko trial really gets interesting, he may save the democratic party from appearing more corrupt than the Republicans. But Obama won’t do that – it’s all about Obama. Not the American people.

Where was Barry on 9/11???

Doug – Chelsea’s starting salary at McKinsey five years ago was in the neighborhood of $100K — not unusual for a Stanford grad with a masters from Oxford going to work at a global consulting firm.
As for the usual litany of “illegal” things — suggest your time may be better spent petitioning Congress for your share of the $70 million spent by Starr/Ray be reimbursed since clearly they were so incompetent as to head up a 6-yr investigation which turned up a horny president and a blue dress … and nothing else! Don’t forget to throw in some xtra $ for all the congressional investigations which similarly turned up … nothing!

Mr. Obama denounces his pastor….
The hypocrisy of this man is beyond
description….

If Obama is anywhere mentioned on
the democratic ticket
, I will
never vote Dem again!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama throws more of his family
under the bus…. what a good guy…
does he think we are all idiots????
His stupidity is beyond description…
I am outraged…

“If Obama is anywhere mentioned on
the democratic ticket
, I will
never vote Dem again!!!!!!!!!!!”
Then you were never going to vote Dem in the first place, no matter who was on the ticket.
Lets face it folks, even if you think Obama is a secret commie fascist mutant space-man terrorist from Iran, and Clinton is well… I don’t think some of the words I’d use would make it past the moderators… they’ve got nothing on the Slimefest 08 that is the current Republican party.
A vote for the Republicans is a vote to continue the Iraq war ad infinitim, to rob from the middle class and give to the rich, to keep Americans uninsured so long as it turns a profit for some fat shareholders, I could go on…
Tell me, honestly, do you think your preferred candidate stands for any of those things I just said? Do you honestly think the Democrat you hate so much stands for any of these things?
I despise the Clintons with the white hot intensity of a thousand exploding suns, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before I’ll vote Republican. TOTALLY the lesser of two evils there…

kitty writes:
“Where was Barry on 9/11???”
Reading the notices with Bill Ayers?

The risk associated with Mr. Bummer
is simply too high.

Melissa -
1. Are you the same person you were a few years ago? Most people do change over time, depending on what they have to deal with/witness. It’s convenient for you to say HRC’s changes are an act, but I’d rather believe that people (especially those going through the kind of crucible HRC did) do change.
2. Promises / proposals are defined according to a set of conditions. If the conditions change, the outcome will of course change. Holding jobs/Buffalo against HRC ignores the impact of funding/priorities in a Republican administration/Congress, ignores domestic and global economic conditions, and ignores reality. It’s not as if she put her programs in place and they didn’t accomplish the goals; she couldn’t put them all in place because of circumstances beyond her control.
3. A one-sided perspective on health care reform is particularly galling. HRC made mistakes (which she’s acknowledged) but republicans/lobbyists also spent fair amount of time and money lining up in fierce opposition. Blame HRC if you want, but also blame everyone else involved who put their interests above the “general welfare”. At least she made an effort, put up a fight, and -when it didn’t work – worked on smaller but related objectives and kept plugging away at the issue.

Obama just denounced his pastor and he think they will not have the same relationship anymore.
He said he did not him as person like this..blahh..blah,,blah..
Just keep the video tape he talked yesterday .Once he becomes the President of US his pastor will be at the WH every single day and even has his own room at the WH.

Q: why few Clinton attack ads?
A: why spend money when it’s not needed?
OBAMA is the current leader and easy target – Although the tactic is not a good one & easily tossed aside.
I’d suggest a cleaner fight at this point – since mudslinging really doesn’t do much good – especially when it doesn’t have much to go on.
We really need to get focused on why we need to vote for someone not why not to vote for someone. The issues please – that are affecting most, if not all of us – Democrat and Republican and Independent [aka the rest of us not in the first two].
We need to look for what people bring to the table to help us – not this extra fluff. How one chooses to worship / or not – and who they’re getting the message from – and what someone they know did during the candidate’s childhood isn’t important today – people change.
Lets move forward, not stay mired in the mud – lets look at the proposed changes and how we might play a role in helping to bring them about. The changes that need to be made are not all going to come from government. Many need to be changed from the people – taking an active role – pushing for those changes – in insurance, in work, in what we purchase.
Push Walmart and others not to buy from China and third world countries – don’t shop there – get others to do the same – or only but american goods they do sell. write to walmart and get them to change their buying habits. The same goes for Target and other places you may buy things from.
If you have problems with oil – become a shareholder and buy gas from only one vendor. Organize / Join forces with others to do the same. Make your voices heard. (When they make profits, you’ll at least get some of it back in dividends.)
All talk and no action – is part if what got us here. Complaining with no action is a waste of time and energy. Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words.
A revolution is at hand – it can be peaceful – and orderly. Many have taken the first step toward being heard – register and vote. There are many other ways [non-destructive means] to get things done – make a change.
Change is also usually painful for most things. It usually comes at a price. What are you willing to do to make change happen? What are you willing to give up to make things happen that you feel need to change?
As a past Democratic President said, while campaigning for president …
Don’t ask what the country can do for you …. ask what you can do to improve the conditions you have problems with?

The RNC has purchased half-million dollars worth of negative ads so far. They are going to swift-boating democratic candidates all over the country, the ads feature Wright and Obama. We may lose the presidency and both houses because of Obama.

sounds like childers is smarter than a lot of politicians. he knows the sure way to lose an election is to be associated with obama.
if dean, pelosi, and the rest of the crooked “leaders” of the dem party don’t figure this out and make obama withdraw, we’ll not only have a republican white house but also a republican house and a republican senate.
there are only two good things about that – obama would be finished forever and pelosi would lose her speakership.

Childers? Obama? Ooh! Ooh! I LOVE playing Six Degrees of Separation!!! Those Republicans always play the best Party games! Can we do Charades next? Please? Please? I want Bush to dress up in that flight jacket again. And Karaoke – we HAVE to do Karaoke! Everyone wants to see McCain do that “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran” thing again. Then Pin the Tail on the Donkey. This is such a FUN Party! Do we get cake and ice cream and balloons too?

This is silly — the Mississippi 1st is a heavily conservative district that went for G.W. Bush in ’04 by 30 points. Of course Travis Childers is distancing himself from Sen. Obama. He would be distancing himself from ANY national Democratic figure (save maybe someone like fmr. La. Sen. John Breaux or Miss. Rep. Gene Taylor — hardly liberal boogeymen).

I find it funny that none of the local politicians on the Dem/lib side and none of the Dem/lib Senators/congressman want to be associated with neither Obama or Clinton.
remember when the campaigning began, the Dem/libs stated they were afraid of Clinton winning the nomination for the libs because it would hurt them!
Pretty bad that the Dems/Lib politicians do not like their own front runners! So why should we!!

Obama would have you rip 2 stars from our beautiful American flag.
Obama won’t even count active duty military from Florida or Michigan.
How can a guy who wants the country to salute a 48 star flag and throws his pretty crazy preacher to the dogs expect us to respect him?
God Bless our 50 United States of America.
He should have stood by his preacher too. He sat in those pews, gave that man $22,000, copied his sermon for his best selling book, used him for his 2006 speech at the DNC, and signed an oath to his value system.
He had that preacher marry him and baptise his kids.
Reverend Wright was a mess……but he was Obama’s mess for 20 years.
Stand by your mess. I don’t know if it’s worse that he’s so disloyal or that he chose such a church to begin with.
Either way. His character defaults are worse than Reverend Wright’s by far….stand by Your Man Obama.