By Ed O'Keefe

Apr 3, 2008 4:03pm

Gov. Rendell: There’s 50% About Barack Obama We Don’t Know Yet

As governor of Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell is getting a lot of attention these days as the chief surrogate for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., as she and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., square off in preparation for the Keystone state’s April 22 primary.

Rendell joined us for the ABC News Shuffle Podcast, which you can listen to on iTunes or HERE.

Some highlights from our 37-minute chat:

"I think that Hillary Clinton wears very well, the more people get to know her I think the more they like her. I’ve seen that transformation with working-class stay-at-home women who last year at this time were very cool to Hillary. But when we were at the St. Paddy’s day parade at Pittsburgh and Scranton they were screaming for her like she was a rock star."

Rendell said that Clinton will be able to beat Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in states such as Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and "she’s been really well vetted, all the bad stuff is by and large out there, and there are no surprises. With Sen. Obama I think the right now he may run, a little stronger in some areas — not the key states — but in some areas against Sen McCain, but understand that he hasn’t been vetted."

Rendell says Obama hasn’t been upfront about his position on nuclear power — he referenced a New York Times story on Obama watering down some legislation, after which the nuclear exec became big contributors — and then said, "but you haven’t heard that from the Clinton campaign and you won’t We’re not going to put up a TV ad saying ‘He’s lying to you’ because I think there’s been restraint on both sides. I’m not just praising Sen. Clinton, I think Sen. Obama has been pretty restrained."

That said, Rendell said, once Obama becomes the nominee the Republicans will unleash the hounds.

"You don’t think the Republican 527s are going to leave this stuff alone do you?" he asked. "You don’t think you’re going to see 527 ads with the explicit comments Rev. Wright said, about Rezko and the land deal? You’re going to see 527 ads about all of those things."

It’s not as if the race will be nicer if Clinton is the nominee, I suggested.

"It won’t be nicer," Rendell responded, "but what there is to construe negatively in Sen. Clinton’s background is out there so I think she’ll suffer less slippage than Sen. Obama would and that’s why I think she’s a stronger candidate."

I took issue with the assertion that everything about Clinton is "out there" — she hasn’t released her IRS returns from the past seven years, there are library documents that remain unreleased, we don’t know who the donors to the Bill Clinton Library are.

"I will grant you that, let’s say that there’s 10% about Hillary Clinton that we don’t know yet, I will grant you that, but I would say there’s also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don’t know yet," Rendell said.

He suggested that Obama can win Pennsylvania, but avoided saying that he thought he would.

"I don’t know how hard they’ll hit him and I don’t know how hard, well, either the Obama campaign will respond or how well the American people will respond," he said. "I always like to credit peoples better angels.  I think they can overplay all this stuff and I think it could backfire . . . I have no doubt (Obama) can win — it’s going to be tough. John McCain is the best candidate the Republicans could’ve fielded to win Pennsylvania.  He’s probably the best they’ve fielded in probably 4 or 5 presidential elections in terms of likely to carry Pennsylvania. So it’s going to be tough but he can win."

Rendell also talked about:

* how women voters have been offended by the media coverage of Clinton and how his wife — Judge Midge Rendell — has been personally touched by what she perceives to be unfair bias in the coverage of Clinton;

* the battlegrounds in the state — the fiercest fight, like always, is in the suburbs of Philadelphia;

* the racial politics of the state — a buzz saw he ran into when he ran against an incumbent African-American Mayor in the Democratic primary in 1987 — as well as his controversial comments about white voters not being ready to vote for a black candidate; and

* the scandals involving neighboring state Democratic governors, Jim McGreevey of New Jersey and Eliot Spitzer of New York. He laughed about a David Letterman TV ad that looped him in with those two, but called the two scandals "sad."  "I’ve tried to live as normal a life as I can in my 31 years in public office but its hard. You have to catch yourself all the time…you don’t have the same freedom that a normal person has."

A fun chat for political junkies between two Philly-boys. Listen HERE. ABC News Shuffle Podcast produced by the fantastic Julia Hoppock.

- jpt

User Comments

Everytime I turn on the TV or take a browse through the news on the internet, Rendell is everywhere “selling” us on CLinton. Doesn’t he have a day job? If I lived in PA, I would start to question the amount of time my Governor of ALL the people is devoting to one cause.

Posted by: sc | April 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

The logical thing IS to choose the candidate we know less about. Why? Because Hillary has already proven herself to be a bad choice. With Obama we at least have a chance.

Posted by: Mike Denhof | April 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

This guy is like a gift to the Obama camp. With friends like this, Clinton really doesn’t need enemies, does she?

Posted by: Howard B. | April 3, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Rendell’s gonna go all Rumsfeldian on us Now I see…… talking about the knowns knowns and the unknown unknowns and such sounds kinda familar to me.
But remember according to D.H. Rumsfeld the most scary thing in the world may be the Unknown Unknow, because you don’t know what you don’t know.
Unlike HRC, aka, GI Jane the Bosnian Adventure Hero, who has been fully vetted, there may be a scary unknown unknown about Mr. O.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 3, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Rendell is a slimeball.

Posted by: Carl | April 3, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Thursday, April 3, 2008
Obama’s Global Tax
From The Conservative Voice
By Jim Kouri
The Global Poverty Act (S.2433) is expected to come up for a vote in the US Senate any time before the November presidential elections, according to conservatives who fear it is a giant step towards handing over US sovereignty to the United Nations and foreign governments.
This is the newest liberal-inspired plan to allow a United Nations style tax on American citizens, according to officials at the American Conservative Union
ACU officials say that this “sickening bill could potentially force the United States to spend as much as $845,000,000,000.00 on welfare to third-world countries.”
While the Senate record of Sen. Barack Obama may appear to be a bit lacking for a man seeking the presidency, he has taken a leadership position in pushing forward this unique piece of legislation. While the idea of eliminating global hunger and disease throughout the world would appear to be a good thing, critics of the Obama-sponsored senate bill say this legislation appears benevolent only on the surface.
“This is the same tax on Americans that the socialists and New World Order enthusiasts have been dreaming about all these years. Americans are a generous people and may believe their leaders want to help the impoverished, but it is an idea that in reality is just one step closer to One World Government,” claims political strategist Michael Baker.
“The socialists would like nothing better than to tax the people of the United States with the blessings of liberal-left American politicians and activists,” he said.
According to critics of S.2433, since no one wants to be on the record as not wanting to combat poverty, some politicians — without a doubt — will feel pressure from some of their less courageous colleagues to go along with a policy they believe is harmful to the American people. Plus members of the news media have shown themselves to embrace socialism and will help to let this horrendous Obama-sponsored bill passed, without alerting Americans about its ramifications.
“This is all part and parcel of the New World Order: Third-World countries taxing the American people,” said award-winning actor and political activist Michael Moriarty.
“These Maoists and Stalinists realized they could never bring people in other countries up to the standard of living we have in the United States. So, what do they do? They try to drag down the American people so that they are as poor and miserable as the impoverished in other countries,” accuses Moriarty.
“It is not humane to burden the American taxpayer with billions in additional foreign aid. It is more than unacceptable,” he added.
“How do liberals fight poverty? They make more people poor,” said a New Jersey school teacher who has been critical of this nation’s government schools.
“If history is to be our guide, American ‘foreign aid’ often winds up lining the pockets of Third-World tyrants and bureaucrats who hate America and do very little to help those who are truly in need,” she said. “Remember the United Nation’s Oil for Food scandal?”
The educator points to the United Nation’s Oil for Food criminals who made extraordinary amounts of money while the Iraqi people went hungry as an example of the failure of internationalists to help people.
“I’m always reminded that when politicians say they want to help you, the best thing you can do is run away from them as fast as you can. They’re not in the business of helping people — they’re in the business of grabbing as much power for themselves as possible,” said Baker.
Phyllis Schlafly recently said in a speech before the members of the ACU:
“Obama’s costly, dangerous and altogether bad bill (S. 2433), which could come up in the Senate any day, is called the Global Poverty Act. It would commit U.S. taxpayers to spend 0.7 percent of our Gross Domestic Product on foreign handouts…
“$845 BILLION is hardly a drop in the bucket and, yes, that’s in addition to our Foreign Aid programs, which, in 2006, cost American taxpayers almost $300 BILLION!”
“If the Democrat-controlled Congress passes this bill, the United States will have taken the first step toward the complete surrender of our national sovereignty,” Baker said.
In a statement released by the ACU, the officials at the conservative organization wrote:
“The American people will be watching and will not tolerate massive United Nations-style giveaways that are passed in the dark of night — or in broad daylight for that matter. S. 2433 is a stealth bill and a dagger aimed at the heart of America’s sovereignty.”

Posted by: cindy | April 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

THE CONROVERSY CONCERNING RENDELL BOILS DOWN TO HIS FIRST TWO WORDS OF THIS ARTICLE, “I THINK.” DANGEROUS FOR A POLITICIAN WITH HIS LACK OF DRIVE.

Posted by: DAVID NH | April 3, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Thanks for calling him out on the tax returns, the documents, and the donors. I wish he would’ve given more specifics on this 50%… like what he supposes that 50% might consist of? He’s released his tax returns, he’s been vetted far more than Clinton this election cycle… where is the 50%? If we only know 50% of him… then we must only know 2% of Clinton.

Posted by: Blake | April 3, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Like how he came to rank in Politics– as per EMIL JONES (paid back with millions in Earmarks), talks of unity and diversity— but never walked the talk, Money trail to AUCHI–via REZKO, his real plans for Palestine and Hamas — Sam Powers leaked some ideas recently, his wife’s true feelings towards whites— no problem when they concede to her wishes ( ignorant Americans ),…. would list more but i gotta get back to work, hope to see more (listed by others) when I check back later.

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 3, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Oh stop it. You’re scaring me.
Essentially Rendell is warning us to beware of what we don’t know, but he doesn’t know what we don’t know or even if there is anything to know. What a baffling argument.
And why is Clinto so afraid of the Republican machine? The Clinton campaign threw the kitchen sink at Obama and he is still winning. Do the Republicans have another sink to throw? I doubt it.

Posted by: Patrick | April 3, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

I thought Obama was supposed to inspire. It seems all of his supporters are so cynical, and all they do is go on all these blogs and talk bad about McCain and Hillary. It makes no sense. They don’t talk about the issues, just more of the same political punches that we always see. Guess nothing will CHANGE!

Posted by: Michael | April 3, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

You fools who think the gopers will go light on obama in the fall are doomed to the continued defeat of your liberal candidates for prez (dukakis–think obama bowling and dukakis tank ride–mcgovern, mondale, etc.)
You have no clue what is coming with the 527s and wright and the rest of it. will be fun to watch.

Posted by: al | April 3, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

No, I just can’t agree that remaining ignorant, as the first post indicates, and voting accordingly is the best choice.
By taking the time to be informed and read what happened in the Democratic nomination process in 1968, everyone can begin to understand why neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama are electable and will most likely not receive the party’s nomination.
In 1968, the Democratic party was confronted to a similar situation as the one that will emerge in August of 2008.
None of the potential Democratic nominees had enough delegates or support to win the nomination prior to the convention.
During their campaigns, the candidates ran negative campaigns against their opponents destroying each other in the process.
The only candidate who could have won the nomination outright and united the party had been assassinated earlier in the year.
The answer from Democratic party leaders was to select a candidate who had not campaigned but had the experience, qualifications, and character needed be President.
The one person who can provide a such qualities for the Democratic party is patiently waiting in the wings as the bloodletting, pandering, lying, and spending continues unabated.
Al Gore is coming, and it won’t be on anyone else’s cabinet.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Mike Denhof, you are a genious…elect someone you know less about; that way when all of the skeletons fall out of the closet nobody will react, right! Well, that sums it up; that’s what we all should do. lmao

Posted by: Cindy | April 3, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Ed Rendell is a good guy and a great public servant. He did a great job as Mayor of Philly and now as governor. I also have tremendous respect for Rep. John Murtha, Hillary’s other key supporter in PA. Murtha was the first congress person to say openly that no, things were not going well in Iraq. The hardened vet was called a coward and beaten up mercilessly for it, but his tremendous courage was vindicated as the general public eventually caught up to his correct analysis.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 3, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Examples of the 50% that Governor Rendell refers to are evident and legion in the Obama autobiography, “Dreams of My Father.”
Here is just one of the more notable Obama views on life:
“Any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning.”

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Sorry, “Dreams From My Father.”

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

The 50% we have found out about Obama was bad enough, and it will only get worse.

Posted by: Jo | April 3, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

It will likely be after the election that the studies will be done sufficiently to show the fairness/unfairness of media coverage during this primary season. I doubt that it will support Judge Rendell’s claim (and her husband’s) of bias against Hillary Clinton. If anything, she’s gotten a bit of a free ride, as most topics (whitewater, Monica) have been all but off-limits.
Governor Rendell is quite possibly lowballing his 10% unknown estimate for Hillabeans, just as he is overestimating for Senator Obama. But he’s just following the latest Clinton line that Obama is unelectable — just weeks after they so dearly wanted him as VP!!!
Hillary is done. Toast.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 | April 3, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Good ol scare tactics. Clinton lied straight on our face. this hurt her much more than the Wright thing on Obama. Tax returns will sink her beleive me.

Posted by: Hans | April 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

It is now common knowledge that Obama, due to inexperience and past and present dealings and relationships, is unelectable in the GE.
We want to win the White House, don’t we Democrats/Independents? If you really believe that, Obama supporters, then you would understand that Obama cannot win against McCain.
I have always thought that Obama would be content to win the nomination and lose the White House…and that is now being proven day after day.

Posted by: Lin | April 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

“Everytime I turn on the TV or take a browse through the news on the internet, Rendell is everywhere “selling” us on CLinton. Doesn’t he have a day job? If I lived in PA, I would start to question the amount of time my Governor of ALL the people is devoting to one cause.”
Gee, that’s profound. Are you spending equal time questioning all of the time three of our Senators devote to one cause: campaigning for the presidential nomination?

Posted by: LOM | April 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

are all of you so young that you dont remember the 527 ads against kerry or better yet the wille horton ads against dukakis ,the ones they run against obama will be 10 times worse simular to what nixon did to mcgovern,so dream on as thats all you have.

Posted by: don tufts | April 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Cindy:
I was just at a conference this past week in which Sir Bob Geldoff noted that the United States gives far less in humanitarian aid to third world countries than most of the world’s nations. This is a real shame.
Anything that will serve to equalize — or better yet, to allow us to take a lead role — in turning things around in the third world in terms of famine, drought relief, HIV/AIDS and other problems should be welcome. Certainly not scorned.
But we are too often a selfish folk.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 | April 3, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Here’s the problem:
Hill has made ‘experience’ the cornerstone of her readiness to be Commander in Chief. But then it turns out that she’s lied about the real substance of that experience in:
1. North Ireland
2. Macedonia
3. Bosnia
And those are just the ones we know about now.
Why hasn’t she released her taxes or her earmarks yet?
Why did she redact so much of her White House schedule?
Bill has been trading on his stature as a former president to influence business dealings with foreign governments (see the NYT article about his dinner w/ the leader of Kazakhstan) in exchange he receives million in ‘contributions’ to his Presidential Library.
So what? The problem is that if Hillary gets in, all those contributions and business deals are going to look like a conflict of interest to U.S. foreign policy. Why isn’t anyone in the media talking about that?
Is that why Bill won’t release the list of contributors to his library?
That’s why following the money matters…..it’s a matter of U.S. security interest.
So, Rendell’s (and the Clinton’s) assertion that Hillary has been fully vetted doesn’t hold up to the light of day.

Posted by: Suzanne | April 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

GD AMERICA OBAMA 08
ROFL

Posted by: AL | April 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

well as you see he did not repeat what he stated last month that he does not believe that Pa. voters would not elect a black man. I would love to know how mny e-mails and phone calls he got on that 1?
“I think that Hillary Clinton wears very well, the more people get to know her I think the more they like her.
Ed your wrong again the more people listens to this women the more they dis-like her. She is un-electable if she goes up against McCain she will lose.
Obama08

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Rendell was the DNC Chairman in 2000.
When Gore lost Florida in 2000, Rendell immediately said Gore should concede and not question the vote in Florida.
Rendell was widely called a traitor by Democrats.

Posted by: Dan | April 3, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

He is so right, the GOP will wipe the floor with Obama. It won’t be pretty with Clinton either but it will be rehash. Hillary is so tough, I have never seen anyone who just keeps getting stronger with every attack.

Posted by: Tina D | April 3, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

What Obama should say about Wright
When asked why he won’t disassociate himself with Reverend Wright, Obama should answer with one simple statement that fits into most religious people’s mental frame:

“Reverend Wright bought me to God. For that, I will be eternally grateful to him and TUCC.”

I think that that answer would (or should) satisfy even the most right-wing talkshow hack (or even Chris Matthews). How could anyone of faith expect him to throw Wright under the bus when he showed him the way to salvation?

Posted by: Jimmy Crackcorn | April 3, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Rendell sounding like the rest of the Clinton entourage: whine…whine…whine…

Posted by: Eleniki | April 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

jimmy,
most americans are not religious nuts…they do not want the hate, period. obama is the candidate of quiet hate.

Posted by: al | April 3, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

she hasn’t released her IRS returns from the past seven years, there are library documents that remain unreleased, we don’t know who the donors to the Bill Clinton Library are.
Hillary where are your Taxes and documents?
What are you trying to hide now? How much will be redacted?
Are you waiting til after the elections ?Just like you wait to pay your debts to the hard working supporters?
How about being transparent?? Can you??

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

* how women voters have been offended by the media coverage of Clinton and how his wife — Judge Midge Rendell — has been personally touched by what she perceives to be unfair bias in the coverage of Clinton;
Please you mean Because they are not fawning all over her?
Or better yet when she opens her mouth they fact check what she utters? Bosnia duck run for cover?
When they respect hers and Bills wishes Chelsea is off limits?
get real hillary the world does not revolve around just you. Get over it.
Go whine somewhere else .
Ed she is going down .

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

I really don’t care who the donators of Bill’s Library are….Hillary is running. Gov Rendell has a point about Obama and the Rev Wright info sounds that loud and clear. Everyone in the Obama camp wants to know about Hillary. Does anyone care that Obama has NOTHING to show from Illinois? Yup he said he didn’t have the resources to archive it. What up with that?

Posted by: Darla | April 3, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Rendell’s right. Go to STOP-OBAMA . ORG and see for yourself. This guy has NOT BEEN thoroughly vetted.

Posted by: morrisdick | April 3, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

You could see right before the texas and Ohio stuff that rendell, even though he was backing Clinton …really wanted her to lose so he wasn’t going to be beholden to this kind of politics.
I think Rendell is tired and stuck. I think he has been at this so long on every news outlet he can (doesn’t he have a state to take care of? I mean he’s not the candidate…)… that he doesn’t even see how he throws things in to an interview and say “see we haven’t mentioned that” oy.
It’s gross politics and you can tell he wishes it hadn’t been this way. He knows this is all going to come back and make his job harder… but he also unfortunately had to be loyal to the Clinton machine since they helped him.
I feel bad for him.

Posted by: dl | April 3, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

I just love Ed Rendell. Can’t say I know much about his policies, but in this race, he has been a straight shooter…to the degree that one can be supporting their particular candidate.
As an Obama supporter, I think he will go all out for Obama in the general election. I wish my governor carried himself half as well as Rendell.
Unfortunately I live in Illinois << he says with a whisper.

Posted by: Ed S | April 3, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

“Everytime I turn on the TV or take a browse through the news on the internet, Rendell is everywhere “selling” us on CLinton. Doesn’t he have a day job? If I lived in PA, I would start to question the amount of time my Governor of ALL the people is devoting to one cause.”
He has to sell cuz no onw is buying.
Ed get back to your real job representing the public.

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Anyone who thinks that a Dem will lose this fall is insane.
Yes, Wright’s statements are inflamatory, but they’re Wright’s statements.
Now if they want to run out the 527 ads, so will we. Catholics – ever heard of Hagee? He damns your religion. McCain SOUGHT his support and said he was “honored and pleased” to have his support etc. Remember flip-flopper Kerry? McCain puts Kerry to shame on flipflopping; tax cuts, waterboarding, abortion rights, you name it, he’s changed his position.
To top it off, look at the Democratic turnout in the primaries, the fundraising, the fact that registered Dems outnumber registered Republicans by over 15%. Majorities of voters favor almost all of the Dems major positions. Gas is freakin $4 a gallon! A majority believes they are worse off now than they were 4 years ago. The capper: Iraq war. McCain’s avowed continuation of the war is politically untenable.

Posted by: JTS | April 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

I’M FROM PHILLY AND WE DONT EVEN RESPECT RENDELL..OR NUTTER.. OBAMA IS A GOOD DUDE AND I HOPE BOB CASEY KNOCKS REMDELL OUT

Posted by: TAMICKA | April 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

PHILLY IS GONNA GIVE OBAMA ALL HIS DELEGATES
OBAMA2008!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TAMICKA | April 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

GOV Rendell here are some things we do know about Barack OBAMA.
HE WON TEXAS!!!
HE HAS WON TWICE AS MANY STATES AS HILLARY
HE LEADS IN DELEGATE COUNT BY OVER 160
HE TRUMPS HER AT FUNDRAISING IN MARCH BY 2 TO 1
HIS CAMPAIGN IS NOT IN DEBT UP TO ITS EYEBALLS
HE DID NOT LIE ABOUT DUCKING FROM SNIPERS IN BOSNIA
HE HAS OVER A MILLION MORE CONTRIBUTORS THAN SHE DOES
HE DID NOT SUPPORT THE WAR NOR VOTE FOR IT LIKE YOUR GAL HILLARY
NEED I GO ON FURTHER ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ARE THE FACTS AS DETECTIVE FRIDAY WOULD SAY.

Posted by: PAUL HERNANDEZ JR | April 3, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Ed Rendell is a HACK!!!

Posted by: Don Hannaford | April 3, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Please Mr Rendell, we were SO OVER you with your opinions among them your RACIST views about white people not likely to vote for an African American Candidate, and Democrats will reject your opinions. Are Penn Tax payers paying your salary, stumping for Hillary everyday?

Posted by: latinovoter1 | April 3, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

I’ve also been offended by the media’s coverage of Senator Clinton’s campaign. The media has done its best to dehumanize her, and paint her as a cold calculating liar. The media has also attempted to paint her supporters as uneducated racists. Some outlets have even resorted to using inappropriate and offensive language. Obviously, this has been offensive to many women, especially her supporters.
Now, I consider myself a realist, and I know my candidate of choice is not perfect (no one is perfect), and that she would face negative attacks if she were to become the nominee. What stands in her favor, however, is she has been in the public eye for a long period of time, and although there may be things people don’t like about her, she isn’t as much of a question mark as Obama is. Additionally, she is exceptionally knowledgable about the challenges facing the next president, and can express herself confidently (not falling apart like Obama did at that short press conference a couple of days ago when he misrepresented McCain’s 100 years statement).
Obama, as polling continually shows, is viewed as inexperienced. And, he has a number of questionable ties that may blow up in the next few months (the Rezko trial will reveal the widespread level of corruption of the government of Illinois at all levels). When you add in a little Rev. Wright and Mr. Ayers, I would expect you could get some pretty hard hitting negative ads (there is a reason a number of Hillary’s supporters who have done their homework are saying they won’t vote for Obama).

Posted by: Sharon | April 3, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Boy this man better hope that Clinton wins LOL He will NEVER get elected again LOL He is alike a starving cat on an oscar meyer!
He just keeps doing the Clinton bidding for them..wonder how that feels……can’t be peachy LOL

Posted by: Brian | April 3, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Governor Rendell should be ashamed of himself, absolutely ashamed.
I’ll take even 90% of Obama’s “stuff” over 10% of Hillary’s any day.
Oregon’s Governor Ted Kulongowski should be ashamed also. Oregon is anticipated to go very strong for Obama on May 20, yet Kulongowski endorsed Hillary before the primaries even began, and is campaigning for her in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: nj | April 3, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Rendell, you think you know everything about Hillary? Well if you don’t, I am sure she can make up something. She is good at that. The only thing I know about her is that she is a liar…EVERYBODY READ THIS. THE TV MEDIA IS COVERING FOR HILLARY AND WON’T REPORT IT. THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON

Posted by: bb | April 3, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

I just heard on cnn
That President Carters family is supporting Barack Obama . Then he said at the end of his statement I’ll let think which way ill be deciding.uhhh
I think with the statement Its pretty clear.

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

A few weeks ago, we were told Hillary was fully vetted. Hillary herself said she’s been under close scrutiny and we know everything about her.
Then, we learned about her 4 months of lying about Bosnia sniper fire. Only for her to say she was “sleep deprived”.
If Hillary is president and answers the phone at 3am, we’re likely to be in a war with Bosnia because she thinks they’re shooting at her.

Posted by: Debbie | April 3, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Rendell and Hillary …… actually, everyone around her, are pathetic. Gov. Strickland in Ohio looked like one of those bobbing heads in the back window of an old jalopy with his head bobbing up and down in agreement with Hillary. He loked stupid and clueless. Rendell is just plain objectionable. Why is it that everyone with anythng to do with the Clintons appear to be so needy and bothersome? Did someone say whiney? Oh yes!!!!! No ethics, no responsibility, no truth, and esprcially no pride. How can they stand themselves? Like I said before on another site, PA and Ohio are Archie Bunker states. Big but backward. Unfortunately I’m from Ohio. It’s a bunch of Eastern Europeans stuck -in- their- ways- bubbas. Did I say Racist? I should have. Hoping that Obama wins…big!

Posted by: nancy | April 3, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

The low point of the campaign so far. This is nothing but sleaze. He claims we don’t know Obama. Well I know Hillary, she is a sleazy liar, Democratic Karl Rove, not to proud to step so low.

Posted by: Thinking | April 3, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

The teachers are supporting Clinton because Obama and Bush both used the NCLB to help fund religious schools at the expence of public schools.

Posted by: hhkeller | April 3, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

I am scared of that 10% of stuffs that I do not know about Hillary than 50% of stuffs that I do not know about Obama.
The more I know of Obama, the more I like him.
He did not throw his pastor under the bus- that impressed this white woman. He could have chosen the easier path and say -”I have nth to do with that old pastor of mine”..But he stood by him and yet he denounced his words. He is a true Christian.
This proves, he will not leave me in mess even if I do sth wrong when he becomes my President.

Posted by: Karen | April 3, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

There is a lot we don’t know about Hillary Clinton and Governor Rendell Google Paul vs Clinton. Rendell and the Clintons are both involved in a campaign financing scandal that has a gag order on it so the press can’t cover it. GOv Rendell also belongs to Scottish Rites free masons that don’t allow women in . The Clintons and their lackeys disgust me.

Posted by: ann31 | April 3, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Buying Obama – The Auchi Connection
Tracing the trail of Iraqi born billionaire Nadhmi Auchi indicates Rezko’s deals may include a money trail leading back to Saddam Hussein oil for food program.
A 2004 Pentagon report described Auchi, “who, behind the facade of legitimate business, served as Saddam Hussein’s principal international financial manipulator and bag man.”
Auchi prospered in Saddam’s regime collecting “commissions” on sale of weapons and other goods to Iraq in the 1980s and 1990s.
A recent Pentagon report accuses Auchi of “unlawful activities working closely with Iraqi intelligence operatives to … arrange for significant theft from the U.N. Oil-for-Food Program to smuggle weapons and dual-use technology into Iraq,” and to “organize an elaborate scheme to take over and control the post-war cellular phone system in Iraq.”
At Saddam’s insistence a scheme orchestrated by Auchi appropriated billions of dollars from America through America’s Oil for Food program into Auchi’s bank account. These transactions passed through Banque Nationale de (BNP) from its 1995 inception until 2001 through Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holdings Company (GMHC) which was the largest private shareholder in Paris.
Auchi’s General Mediterranean Holdings has connections in Iraq which lead right back to Tony Rezko.
Auchi’s company helped finance a 250 megawatt power plant in the Kurdish town of Chamchamal, Iraq, teaming up with Rezko and Iraq’s former Minister of Electricity, Aiham Alsamarrae. In December, 2006 Alsamarrae was accused of graft and is being charged in a $2 billion Iraqi reconstruction corruption case. Alsamarrae is a Chicago resident with dual US-Iraqi citizenship -an embarrassing connection for the war critic Obama. Alsamarrae is now living in his Chicago mansion.
Writing in Human Events, March 3, 2008, John Batchelor reports on an Alsammarae-Obama-Rezko connection:
“…in April 2005, one month before Mr. Alsammarae left his post, his Ministry of Electricity signed a contract for $50 million with Companion Security to provide training to Iraqis to guard electrical plants by flying them to Illinois for classes.
“Companion Security was headed by a former Chicago policeman with a troubled history, Daniel T. Frawley, in partnership with Mr. Rezko and in association with Daniel Mahru, the lawyer for the original contract and Mr. Rezko’s former business partner. In April 2006, Mr. Frawley entered negotiations with Governor Rod Blagojevich’s staff to lease a military facility in Illinois to be a training camp. In August 2006, Mr. Frawley started negotiations with Mr. Obama’s U.S. Senate staff to complete the contract….
“The timeline of Companion discussions in 2006 is important to note: April 2006 Frawley speaks to governor’s office; August 2006 Frawley speaks to senator’s office; October 2006 indictment of Rezko revealed; October 2006 Rezko arrested upon return from Syria; October 2006 Alsammarae convicted in Baghdad and makes his first escape attempt; December 2006 Alsammarae escapes from Baghdad. …
“(In 2004) Mr. Auchi traveled by private aircraft to Midway Airport in Chicago and then to a fete at the Four Season Hotel, where he met with his business partner in Chicago real estate, Mr. Rezko, as well as with Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Also present that night, according to a fresh report by James Bone and Dominic Kennedy of the London Times, was State Senator Barack Obama, who had recently won the Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate seat….”
The Obama Connection
Recently the London Times reported that Auchi had been a business partner of Rezko since 2003 and between April 2005 and 2007 loaned Rezko at least $18 million.
On February 1 the London Times reports uncovering, “state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to (an) Obama fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr. Auchi’s wife.”
“A company related to Mr. Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr. Obama’s bagman Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko on May, 23 2005. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.
These Funds from Auchi’s loan helped finance a complex series of transactions between Rezko and Democratic Presidential candidate Illinois Senator Barack Obama involving the 2005 purchase of Obama’s Chicago mansion and Rezko’s purchase of an adjoining landlocked parcel.
Rezko claims he paid “full market price” and Obama apparently received a “discount” of several hundred thousand dollars for his parcel. Rezko then improved his parcel to benefit Obama.
Instead of handing cash to Obama, Rezko handed Obama a preferential price for property. This is the same form of “honest graft” and preferential treatment that sent former Illinois Governor Otto Kerner to jail over 30 years ago, see United States v. Isaacs, 493 F.2d 1124 (7th Cir. 1974).
The Chicago Sun-Times recently reported that Mr. Rezko, around the same general period he was wheeling with Obama, also provided a preferential price for a property purchase by U. S. Representative Luis Gutierrez.
Instead of transferring cash to buy influence, Rezko was engaging in structured property transactions and preferential treatment of public officials to confer significant financial benefits on them, far above the legal limits of any legitimate political contribution permitted by federal law.
Rezko was a key early-money fund raiser in Obama’s state Senate campaigns. and Rezko’s relationship with Barack Obama goes back to at least 1990, when Obama’s law firm did work relating to a Rezko housing development.
Rezko as a major mob figure is not known for civic-mindedness or desire for good government.
At a March 3 news conference in San Antonio, Texas, Chicago-based reporters peppered Obama with some of the questions the national news corps has avoided for over a year. Obama claims he had already answered the questions in the Chicago media. He said: “These requests, I think, could just go on forever. At some point, what we need to try to do is respond to what’s pertinent.”
Dana Milbank of the Washington Post wrote:
“Reporters, however, had a different idea of what was pertinent, and the questions about Rezko, NAFTA and other unpleasant subjects continued to come. An aide called out ‘last question,’ and Obama made his move for the exit — only for reporters to shout after him in protest. ‘C’mon, guys,’ he pleaded. ‘I just answered, like, eight questions.’”

Posted by: Olandug | April 3, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

What the heck does foreign aid have to do with piece?
Hmmmm, nothing?
Bob Geldof DID criticize Australia’s foreign aid as “pathetic”. Can’t find anything about the US.
BTW, did you know the US pays 25% of ALL dues for the UN?
And when discussing foreign aid are we talking about dollar amounts or in comparison to GDP? Of course, if compared to the US GDP, the percentage will be small compared to other countries GDP. Why could that be? Because the US has one of the largest GDP’s in the world. DUH.
In total dollar amounts we are more generous that most nations. And to our own detriment.
Foreign aid doesn’t achieve squat. TRADE is the way to help developing countries.
Is anyone here aware of how agricultural subsidies to farmers in developed countries prevent farmers in developing countries from trading and improving their own circumstances?
YOU want to help? Take a good look in the mirror first and recognize that YOU are part of the problem.

Posted by: Donna | April 3, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

To Sharon:
It is not media who is against Hillary. It is majority of people like me who blog all the time- who are against Hillary.
MSM just looks at our chit-chats, analyzes and they make their stories out of it.
And you know what- the best political move is to keep media in your pocket. That is what Obama campaign has done.

Posted by: Dee | April 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Vetting candidates?
Choosing who is more electable based on erroneous criteria?
I thought Hillary wanted the people to vote.
Guess not. Guess she just wants them to listen to some fat head tell them who to vote for.
Hillary treats the electorate as if they are stupid.
Its not the media painting a bad picture of Hillary, she is doing that all by herself.
I do not want Hillary Clinton to go down in history as the first female president. The first female president will have integrity, intelligence, diplomacy and will win because she was the peoples choice.
That is not Hillary

Posted by: Anna | April 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Part of the 50% that Governor Rendell was referring to comes from Barack Obama’s own book:
“Any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning.” (Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama)

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

I had a dream !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: james | April 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

There is a lot we don’t know about Hillary Clinton and Governor Rendell Google Paul vs Clinton. Rendell and the Clintons are both involved in a campaign financing scandal that has a gag order on it so the press can’t cover it. GOv Rendell also belongs to Scottish Rites free masons that don’t allow women in . The Clintons and their lackeys disgust me.

Posted by: ann31 | April 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Where are your tax returns, Hillary?
Where is the list of the Clinton library donors? Where are the phone logs you are continueing to withhold?
Where is the admission of guilt for lieing about being under sniper fire and disrespecting our military men and women in so doing?
Where is the admission that you were wrong to vote for the Iraq war?
Gov. Rendell should start asking himself these questions about the lying candidate he is supporting. But perhaps he just feels more comfortable supporting someone who never tells the truth.
Change doesn’t come easy but one thing is for sure, CHANGE does come….and it’s finally coming in 2008.

Posted by: Cici | April 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Nancy
After Ed made those statement the people of Pa. were very angry. I have Family and friends in the Northern parts and let me tell you they had a few choice names for him. So on behalf of of the Pennsylvanians they all don’t have his views.
If Hillary loses you will see a great change in his views.
People do not forget as easly as those politicans hope for.
They will remember.

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

My question to the Obama supporters:
Why are you so upset if Obama has been fully vetted and has nothing to hide? Why all this rancor? Why not just coast to victory?
I do suspect many are young or just forget what the Republicans can do; what their 527′s can really do.
It won’t be pretty. Obama has surrounded himself (his whole life) with mentors that are essentially what most Americans perceive as un-American. In my lifetime I cannot recall a presidential candidate whose allegiance to this country could be questioned. Well, we now have such a candidate.
You think the Republicans are going to leave that alone? You must be drinking that Kool-Aid. There are so many things swirling on the internet about Obama, outside the MSM now, that will be outed in the GE. Hillary Clinton and camp have been far too generous with him, IMHO. If I tried to post them here, the post would quickly be deleted.

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 3, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith…

Posted by: jacksmith | April 3, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

DON’T BE DUPED !!!
Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. And because they feel that a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket would be unbeatable. And also because with a Clinton and Obama ticket you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.
But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).
I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty for all. She is a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! OUT GUNNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. I suggest a Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
I think Barack Obama has a once in a life time chance to make the ultimate historic gesture for unity, and change in America by accepting Hillary Clinton’s offer as running mate. Such an act now would for ever seal Barack Obama’s place at the top of the list of Americas all time great leaders, and unifiers for all of history.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith…

Posted by: jacksmith | April 3, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Lets say we know 75% about Hillary.
But when we came to know all of the good and the bad we knew about Hillary was coming from a straight faced pathological lier (4 STARs PINNOCHIOS)…I am not sure we know her anymore.
Mr. Rendall is, arguabley, showing first sign of IMAGINARY SNIPER FIRE SYNDROME…to be safe he needs to get awasy from Hilllary

Posted by: moeen | April 3, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Hey thanks for the pod-cast, some of us do care about what is really going on. Look forward to anything you write…..have a good one.

Posted by: 30yrdem | April 3, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

I know Hillary and just that eliminates her as someone I would vote for. Go Obama.

Posted by: Rick | April 3, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

What totally absolute useless blather from Rendell: “Oh, WE couldn’t, wouldn’t say bad things about Obama but, you know, those BAD GUYS, the Republicans could, would say bad things about Obama but, you know, we don’t know WHAT the bad things might be but, you know, there COULD be bad things that those bad guys MIGHT say….”
Clinton and her attack dogs have tried for over a year to prove that Obama is vulnerable to attack and he has shown over and over that he is not. He has more votes, more delegates, and more states won. And he is raising money at roughly 2X the rate of Clinton.
All these attacks are completely hollow.

Posted by: egc52556 | April 3, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Anyone who thinks the media is covering for Hillary has been living under a rock. I have never seen such blatant media bias in my life ..all in favor of Obama, take Chris Matthews for example, they need to consider putting a bib on him to catch the drool that comes every time he mentions Obama’s name. If it weren’t for the internet thank god, I wouldn’t have been able to find out half the facts I now know about BO, because they sure weren’t reporting them on tv. It took being embarrassed by a SNL comedy skit, which they knew was sadly the truth, for some of them to start at least half way doing their jobs.

Posted by: Katherine | April 3, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Anybody who pays school taxes or has kids in public schools should reject Obamas support for the NCLB. Obama, Bush And Kennedy like th NCLB because they use it to fund religious and private schools with our tax money.

Posted by: hhkeller | April 3, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Jack Smith
Good try . Every one has Heard Rush Limbaugh .Vote for Hillary. Do you honestly think that anyone who has been watching and listening does no that to be fact .
Stop trying to dupe the voters . We all know Hillary is scared .She knows she cant win without you supporters trying to do damage control.

Posted by: Lauren | April 3, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

The lies told by Barack Obama are legion. To keep the post short, consider a couple or so for now:
A good place to start is with the Rezko lies. Obama said his association with Antoin “Tony” Rezko, who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud, wasn’t a close association.
That was proven to be a lie. Obama also lied about the amount of money he received from Tony Rezko. The amount was far more than what Obama previously admitted to.
Another Obama lie regards some harsh comments he made regarding NAFTA. As we later learned Obama’s campaign had secretly told Canada officials not to take the political positioning too seriously.
Barack Obama denied that his campaign spoke to the Canadian officials. Then, a memo was later circulated showing that Obama’s senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, did indeed meet with the Canadians and told them not to pay attention to Obama’s rhetoric about NAFTA.
Just a few Obama lies of many.
More to come.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

All Hillary persons do is whine about a non-existent media bias. Matthews does like obama. he is not an anchor. Fox news the new friends of the Clintons do nothing but Obama bashing and MSNBC does a great deal on the Wright controversy. Hillary has gotten a real break with a very short period of coverage on the Bosnia lie. She is a liar, not just a misspeaker or exaggerator but an outright liar and sometimes you get less than positive media converage when you lie so much.

Posted by: Rick | April 3, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Desperation again her 20 point lead in PA is down 3 points.

Posted by: Thinking | April 3, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Paul Hernandez:
1) He didn’t win Texas — she won the popular vote. He ony got more delegates in the caucuses because his thug supporters threatened Hillary supporters.
2) Twice as many states? Yeah, like Vermont. She has won ALL the big states we need to win in November — New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts (where losers Kerry and Kennedy endorsed him), California, Tennessee, Ohio, Texas, Michigan, Florida. And don’t tell me Florida didn’t count — his name was on the ballot, and neither of them campaigned there, but he DID run an ad there through a “national ad buy” OOOOPS — and he still lost.
3) Twice as much money? So I guess money does matter to you guys, after all.
4) He didn’t vote for the war? Yeah, because he wasn’ even a Senator at the time of the war. She didn’t vote for the war, you dummies. She voted, along with every other Congressman and Senator with few exceptions, to authorize the President to use military force — as the last option if sanctions and inspections were refused by Saddam. And what has your great candidate done to end the war? He could have voted against authorizing further money for the war — but he voted FOR IT. If he’s so courageous, he would have voted to cut off funding like Feingold and Murtha did. I guess he’s just a pandering politician after all.
3) She didn’t lie about snipers. See Ben Smith’s March 25, 2008 blog on Politico.com, where the then president of Bosnia Ejup Ganic said about Tuzla “Although the NATO troops were in Tuzla, we still believed that some positions on the hills were occupied by radical Serbs, so I was worried about overall safety. I was the main host and the originally planned welcoming ceremony was shrunk down.”
If he’s so great, how come half the Democratic voters don’t think so, and why are you guys trying to force her out of the race?

Posted by: anna, los angeles, ca. | April 3, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

what does legion mean?

Posted by: Rick | April 3, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

This is all so VERY counterproductive for Hillary’s campaign. The SuperDelegates are already fed up with he aggressiveness of Clinton, her aides and her supporters.
Donna Brazile among them. Here’s an interesting Politico report by Ben Smith (who is NO Obama supporter):
“Commmenters on the fiercely pro-Hillary site HillaryIs44 have posted a couple of emails from Donna Brazile that capture some of the email heat that superdelegates are taking — in her case, from Clinton supporters angry at what they see as her stealth support for Obama in an op-ed calling on Hillary to stop throwing elbows.
Brazile responded to one angry email:
Do you know how many undeclared supers are now just turned off by people like you? Do you understand you’re hurting her and not promoting Hillary? Perhaps that explains why a candidate like Obama has raised $40 million in one month. You don’t have to email me again.
And also:
I just sent Hillary a private email telling her that supporters like you are destroying her candidacy.
I spoke to Brazile just now, who confirmed that she’s been shocked by the volume of “toxic” emails, and responded to some of them.”

Posted by: Greta | April 3, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Hillary “lies” while Obama merely “inflates”;
Hillary “shrills” while Obama merely “objects”;
Hillary “cackles” while Obama merely “charms”;
Geraldine Ferraro is a “racist” while Rev. Wright was merely taken “out of context.”
Do you get the drift?? MSM, such a wonderful job!! Bravo!! Not!!

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

While trying to portray himself in a positive light to hispanic voters, Barack Obama lied about Lou Dobb’s position on deportation of illegal immigrants.
Obama said, “When I hear Rush Limbaugh or you know Lou Dobbs or some of these people talking about how we need to send them all back. We’re not going to send them all back. First of all, this is a country of immigrants. Second of all, as a practical matter, we would end up having to use all of our law enforcement resources to round people up, detain them, separate families. It’s not a realistic solution.”
Never once did Lou Dobbs make a statement that “we need to send them all back.” Lou Dobbs requested that Obama retract his statement or come on his show to defend his position. Obama did neither.
Just another Obama lie.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

It amazes me everyday you can still pick up a paper, watch any news station and there it is, Hillary’s “big lie”, dodging bullets in Bosnia!!!! Are you kidding me? “FISH TALE” at best. ON the other hand, Obama and Wright: Here you have a man (Obama) who has listened to Anti-American, racist (sermons?) for about 20yrs. from a man who he said is like his uncle. He admitted to hearing a few remarks that he didn’t like, but chose to ignore them. And, he said that he definately doesn’t share his views!!!!(remember, 20yrs and Wright’s words never had an influence?) So, here’s my gut feeling on which of these lies would be more detrimental to America: Hillary may write a “fictional” autobiography someday, I can live with that. “IF” Obama does share Rev. Wright’s views about this country and it’s people, i’m more concerned about waking up someday finding instead of “In God We Trust” on our money, it will be “GD America”!! I’d say that’s quite a difference in the “lies”.

Posted by: AG | April 3, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Sorry but Obama’s lies, the ones we know of so far that is, are more than just Rezko and Wright,there’s the Canada/Nafta lie, there’s the lie about the Kennedy Connection, the lie about the campaign questionnare ,thats just 3 more. I can name a whole list more and it continues to grow. And those are just his lies, there’s plenty of other issues and who knows what else is coming. He goes on about how he didn’t vote for the war but the fact is He wasn’t able to vote, he himself stated he wasn’t privy to the US Intelligence which may have led to a different vote AND in his time since he’s been in the Senate his voting record pertaining to the war is identical to Hillary’s. Then there’s General Tony McPeak, BO’s appointed co-chairman of his campaign and military adviser in an interview he stated and I quote “We will be in the Middle East for a long time. This is just the first of our Middle East occupations” then when asked further about Iraq and who would be next on the list he went on to state and I quote again “Who wants to volunteer to get cross-ways with us? We’ll be there a century, hopefully. If it works right”. Put the koolaid down, get a cup of coffee and wake up!

Posted by: StephenPA | April 3, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Legion means countless or many.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

RCP’s AVERAGE today for the Pennsylvania Democratic Primary is: Clinton + 5,4 %
If THAT is not an indication that Barack Obama is an incredibly strong candidate in this race, what is?
Such amazing inroads in so a short a time tell us everything about where the GE will lead to: Obama will simple sweep this country.
And Rendell… poor fool, your white PA folks will be voting en masse for a black man. And right they are. In PA as well people recognize quality, sincerity, civility and strength when they see it!

Posted by: ken | April 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Then, I guess the American people can turn to Govenor Rendell for the full coverage of the 50% that we don’t know about Obama – th 50% that the Govenenor apparently knows. Govenor Rendell should quit his day job and make some serious $ as a clairvoiant.

Posted by: Bill P. | April 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Look all you Americans. Mr. Obama is good at his campaign and no doubt got the idea from Africa where promise for church attracts voters. He has ideas for getting there but thats it. He will be the poorest president if he wins. Let me tell you, America is what it is because they it has kept its values from found fathers like Britain. All those that went for change have changed for the worse. If anybody needs change then its Mr. Obama himself. Continue on the path that works and improve on it. Clinton and McCaine make more sense. If you love emotions then go for Obama.

Posted by: Alex | April 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Obama Lies:
1)”I didn’t hear those kinds of comments.” In the speech on race, “I was aware he [Rev. Wright] had made controversial remarks . . . ”
2) “The Kennedys gave my father a scholarship to come to the US, and that’s how he met my mother.” Washington Post reports that Kennedys’ donation to the scholarship program was a year after Obama’s father had already come to the U.S.
3) “My parents met at Selma.” Barack was already 4 years old when Selma occurred, “I meant the whole civil rights movement.” Washington Post.
4) “Mr. Rezko didn’t advise me about the house purchase.” Well, “He did walk through the house with me before I bought it.”
5) Obama said he was a “Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago.” No, he was a part-time “lecturer” on law. NOT A FULL TIME TENURED PROFESSOR.
There are many more. What does any of this prove? Both candidates “make mistakes” — but Hillary’s are reported as “lies” while Barack “misspeaks.”

Posted by: anna, los angeles, ca. | April 3, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Liberal views could haunt Obama. 1. flatly opposed ti capital punishment 2. in support of a federal payer health plan 3. against any restrictions on abortion 4. in support of state laws to ban the manufacture , sale and even possession of handguns. Obama’s positions reflect his willingness to remain true to his values, whatever the cost. Obma argues he can change the game of American politics and doesn’t need to play by the cautious old rules.

Posted by: jp,michigan | April 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

50%? Where is that coming from? And nice way of getting in the thing Hillary’s not going to talk about (e.g. “He’s lying about his nuclear connections!”) because you’re part of a “restrained campaign”.
And as for Texas, as I read somewhere in this mess, delegates are what count in the end. That’s what gets you to the “magic number” of 2024. So, in regards to a winner being decided by whoever leads in the number of units that will get him/her elected, Obama won Texas. You can’t counter that by saying “what about the popular vote?” unless you’re going to bring in the entire popular vote, where, again, Obama leads.

Posted by: Robert | April 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

At the rate her polls are declining, by the time the PA primary is held, this whole thing will be over. She’s down to 5% from almost 20% in 10 days. but, don’t worry, Hillary will move the goalpost again. It all depends on what the meaning of win is.

Posted by: thebob.bob | April 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Another lie being promoted by Barack Obama concerns his African grandfather, Onyango Obama.
In a speech to voters in Selma, Alabama, Obama said that Onyango Obama was a “boy” for the British until his death. Barack Obama’s reasoning revolved around Onyango being called by his first name, not his last.
The facts show that Onyango Obama was educated, wealthy, owned property, and was nobody’s “boy.” In fact, Onyango Obama was an incredibly powerful figure and a well respected man despite the politically honed suggestions of his grandson, Barack.
Obama’s attempts to disgrace his grandfather gives accurate insight into his unstable personality and the lengths he will go to in efforts to pander to a specific group of voters.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Nice post, Anna. Your information and comments are well taken.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

“The working-class stay-at-home women ”
who were so cool to hilary were doing so because hilary had made nasty comments about how she didnt have time to stay home and bake cookies , as thought her job was too important and the job they did as mom was beneath her! yea i would have been “cool” aka hated her too. Now lets address this blind hope “Rendell said that Clinton will be able to beat Sen. John McCain” because i believe he will chew her up and spit her out! first thing we need to recognize is the man has so much on her its insane- crimes, lies, scandals- his first thing will to say how she embarresed the americans and cost them money threw her failures and investigations and name at least one ” monica” that was proven. second she can not claim he isnt fit to be president because she herself told people to vote for him! that one didnt take long to come back to bite her!!! If she tries to say he isnt ready and able he could easily ask her why then has she told american’s to vote for him? what is she suppost to say because im vengeful? im willing to tell america to do the wrong thing that would put them in harm so that obama doesnt win? i was trying to hurt obama by hurting my own party? you see rendell she is as we common americans like to call screwed! by the way its kinda stupid when you say we including yourself into her and tell someone about something and then say but you wont hear that from us! lol
we wouldnt stoop to that level.. haha wow now lets continue…Clinton’s background is out there and your right no one has been talking about the things about obama hilary supporters have been so hush hush..lol
10% about Hillary Clinton that we don’t know – and the other 70 percent isnt good plus the fact that she doesnt seem to hide the good so im sure the other 10 percent is lethal. thats 80%… your right she is looking good! The ” woman ” card has been played to the max. the only woman who are taking pity on hilary is her, her staff and supporters. the racial politics of the state — okay so now your saying they are all racist that should make them warm inside! by the way husbands family all from pa not racist at all!!! “I’ve tried to live as normal a life as I can in my 31 years in public office but its hard. You have to catch yourself all the time…you don’t have the same freedom that a normal person has.”
i see this as saying i have to always remind myself how much can i get away with if all you people are always watching!

Posted by: melissa | April 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

anna in los angeles? this is john in toluca lake and bev hills..
he didn’t say “those kinds of comments…”
he said: those comments.
my biggest problem with the clinton’s and now their band of clintonistas… is .. they can’t resist taking the truth… and twisting it just enough to serve their interests.
its how you get Hilary dodging sniper fire… how you get Hilary brokering the Irish peace plan.. how bill clinton saying that bill richardson promised him (five times) “to his face” that he would endorse Hilary (bill and bill haven’t even been “face to face” five times since the super bowl)… its even how you get Hilary saying she tried to join the Marines.
and… now…. its how we get her supporters (in this case… you) to take a very direct quote… and twist it to mean something quite different than what Barack said

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Jacksmith, tone it down a bit, Hillary does not have 35 years of experience, Hillary was not the right hand of Bill when he was president or governor of Arkansas or AG, you know that and everybody knows that. She is the junior senator of New York. Remember that there is good experience and there is bad experience, the Washington experience with lobbysts and special interests is a bad experience not useful for America and not for the world. God bless Ameria and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | April 3, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Gov. Rendell’s 50% is a compliment for Obama because it means nothing else as that he is very disappointed that there wasn’t found any real dirt.

Posted by: maz hess | April 3, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

anna in los angeles: not interested in going bullet point by bullet point.. but… Barack did teach constitutioinal law… just not “full time”. the law school itself has confirmed it. see? you added “full time”. where did Barack ever say he taught “full time”? see? that is how you start out with the truth… and just like hilary and bill, you make a nice little lie out of it.

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

John in Toluca Lake:
I notice you didn’t comment about the rest of Obama’s lies that I listed. I didn’t twist anything. The gist of his original remarks was to downplay Reverend Wright’s comments as those of an eccentric “uncle,” and to deny that he had heard Wright make anti-American comments, and only after the controversy didn’t go away did he finally address the issue of Reverend Wright. And what did he do? He didn’t really address Reverend Wright, he gave us another harangue about racial division, once again devoid of any solutions to bridge the gap between “black anger and white resentment.”
As for your canard about Hillary’s supposed “lie” about Bosnia, read my earlier post, where I referenced Ben Smith’s March 25, 2008 politico.com blog, where the former President of Bosnia, Ejup Ganic was quoted as saying that there were Serbian snipers in the hills around Tuzla, that he as the host of the trip was worried about safety and security, and that the originally planned ceremony was “shrunk down.”
Before you continue to say she “lies” clean up your own Obama glass house.

Posted by: anna, los angeles, CA. | April 3, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

LOL! The Clinton campaign today on PA:
“Sen. Obama ought to be able to win. I think they expect to win,” Wolfson said.
LOL! ROFL! LOL!
What an incredible bunch of sinners and losers there Clinton folks are!
They were gonna win PA BIG, BIG and BIG.

Posted by: ken | April 3, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Drzoon (or are you John in Toluca Lake and Beverly Hills?)
He said he was a “Professor.” He wasn’t. Ask any university professor if they think being a part-time lecturer is the same status as being a professor.

Posted by: anga, los angeles, ca. | April 3, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

All those silly little minds here can copy @ paste their funny smear from anti-Obama sites for days, weeks or months,
Barack Obama will be our beloved POTUS!

Posted by: Greta | April 3, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

she took her daughter into a war zone? (no.. that airport was secure for over a year) and… “sniper fire”? there was “sniper fire”? “we had to run with our heads down”?
the problem is… you are being lied to. and then because you are such a rabid supporter of clinton you just repeat it.
i get it. i really do. we’re all human.
you do know that lying started for hilary when she was 27 yrs old… and as a young lawyer.. was fired for lying. and of course… there is always: would all the people in this discussion who have been convicted of lying… and impeached for lying.. please take one step forward?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

anna, los angeles, CA.
kinda like hilary forgot to mention she was associated with him to. people are over it and moved on i guess but thats why she keeps her people bringing it up! or that she did work on behalf of the black panthers( the trueth about hilary by edward klein).

Posted by: melissa | April 3, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

you Clinton supporters are sounding more and more like Republican / neonut Bush supporters every day . Makes sense as half of you are Republican and the other half Republicrats . The one thing you have in common is your inabilty to admit to and accept the truth and reality so you manufacture all kinds of lies and BS just like your candidate . Black is actually white and white is actually black right ? What a pathetic lot ! Rambo Rocky Clinton is not going to be the Dem nominee unless the nomination is stolen from the people and Obama and she will not be the next President whether she wins or loses the Dem nomination .

Posted by: koom | April 3, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

Another Obama Lie:
In Idaho “I have no intention of taking folks’ guns away from them.”
Obama has voted in support of gun control several times.
Greta:
Obviously you’ve been drinking too much Obama kool-aid to respond with anything of substance, just some gushing bs about Obama being your “beloved POTUS” — OMG – how old are you? Schoolgirl crushes don’t get the job done.

Posted by: anna, los angeles, ca. | April 3, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Hey anga why don’t you ask the University that employed him? They’ve said, flatly, that he was listed as a professor as all lecturers that acheive his status. They furthermore indicated that Obama was offered tenure track- which is to say full professorship- and declined.
What they merely implied but didn’t say is that both the Clinton campaign and its supporters such as yourselves are in the petty distortion business, without which your candidate and all of her ‘experience’ making peace in Northern Ireland, dodging bullets in Bosnea, busting unions on the board of Wal-Mart and pressing the flesh with corrupt fund raisers in the White House wouldn’t even be in this race.

Posted by: Dan NY | April 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

anna: gun control is NOT taking your guns away! its an issue of safety … not ownership. see? you take a little chunk of truth… and craft a lie out of it.
too bad… because i always liked the name Anna.

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Governor of PA, Ed Rendell, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, and Rep. John Murtha — all of them endorsed Hillary Clinton. They know they are supporting a winner. They know the needs of PA voters and they are choosing Hillary Clinton because of her record of making change happen and getting results. They know if given the opportunity she would make an excellent president.
Ed Rendell, can be a bit outspoken at times, but PA residents respect him for his honesty and work ethic. His endorsement is huge for Hillary Clinton.
He has been a great asset on the campaign trail. Hillary Clinton is drawing huge crowds in all areas of PA. I think Ed Rendell definitely thinks Hillary Clinton will win PA. Yesterday, John Murtha told Chris Matthews she would win by double digits in PA.
Also, these polls are a joke. Every time Obama needs a big win, I’ve seen the poll numbers drop and drop leading up to a primary. I imagine by April 22nd, Clinton and Obama should be just about tied like in OH. Or was it Texas? Or was it NH? What a farce!

Posted by: PA Loves Hillary | April 3, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

DrZoon:
That explains it. You write idiotic tripe for the idiot box, and “THE MAN SHOW.” It’s always “the man show” for guys like you, who can’t do anything else.

Posted by: anna, los angeles, ca. | April 3, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Hillary Clinton’s eureka moment of the day:
“There is no such thing as a pledged delegate,” she said at a news conference in California, where she has been fundraising.

Posted by: Greta | April 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

first of all.. i am a dad. two beautiful boys. and i am a GOOD husband. and… i am a VET… four yrs… early 70′s. along with 21 other guys… we did the worst of the worst of search and rescue… the “high risk” work. i had over 1100 sorties. in that time i even managed to help two mothers deliver their babies. i went to college on the GI bill. i have been in TV for a long time… and back in the 90′s… wrote and directed a PBS doc on health care… and watched in horror as Hilary ruined a great opportunity to start a badly needed plan (ask congressman Cooper.. she told him that if he didnt shut up… she would crush him). i was a consultant on the US Tobacco trials on the state AG’s side working for attny Ron Motley … super class action attny. i was raised in a motel in banning california… in a one room unit with one brother and three sisters… and whatever i have achieved… i did on my own.
i have done something with my life.
and comedy… is a truth serum. and the closer you get to the truth people either get really pissed… or … they laugh.

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

countallthevotes: you might be onto something here. it all just depends on what the definition of “is” is. don’t you think?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

The truth is, anybody who doesnt support Obama , is a racist.If you support Obama, that is proof,you are not a racist.

Posted by: Dragon | April 3, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

The truth is out there.

Posted by: Dragon | April 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Wow. Rendell parroted a standard Clinton attack line and then said you wouldn’t hear about it from the Clinton campaign because “there’s been restraint on both sides.” What hypocrisy.
Clinton has misrepresented Obama’s nuclear legislation repeatedly. The reality is that Obama fought hard for that bill–which Clinton cosponsored–and he made necessary bipartisan compromises to get it through committee. The Republicans did kill it in the full Senate, but it raised awareness of the problem and got the industry to commit to self-policing in the near term. And don’t think that Obama was done with that particular issue. He left himself in a good position to circle back around and get harder legislation enacted. He was able to pull it off with ethics reform, and I have no doubt he could do it here.

Posted by: Justin | April 3, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

dragon: what is it that you really don’t like about this guy (Barack)? what is it that he says that you don’t like? is it HIM or it is what he represents? is it that he hasn’t been in washinton d. c. long enough? is it that he tries very hard to do this differently? not to be such a “red meat” candidate? you want him to be “tougher”? say nasty things about Hilary and Bill? would that prove something to you? is that he wants out of Iraq but refuses to say stupid things like… “i will start pulling troops out in 60 days”? is it that is he way to inclusive? you don’t want THAT many folks to be part of the process? (that was something i witnessed the clinton campaign try to pull when i was with the campaign in Texas).
what is it? its not his race is it?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Come out of the closet Hillary, your the Campaign magr of the McCain campaign.

Posted by: Thinking | April 3, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

The pastor Wright problem and Obama and Michell are haters of America, is not going away.

Posted by: Dragon | April 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

The MSM special interest groups can stop attacking Obama. It’s very clear that he does not intend to end the war either.

Posted by: Web Smith | April 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

At first i was very impressed with Obama.But the more i see him on teevee and know more about him, i m impresst less and less.The more isee Hillary and learn more about her ,im impressed with her more and more.Compared to Hillary Obama is also stupid.

Posted by: Dragon | April 3, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Obama is far from stupid, if fact just the opposite.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

lisa….
when i saw that comment… i just had to let it go.
it was “stupid”.
anyone that knows anything about Barack knows he is anything … but “stupid”

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

I dont know if that is your reason for Obama to be president. Obama doesnt qualify to be president.

Posted by: Dragon | April 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

sorry dragon. i think this had officially gone over your head.
i’m just going to leave you alone at this point

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Well calling Obama stupid just doesn’t sit well with me. I’m still shaking my head at that comment.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

With all due respect Gov. Rendell I know all I want to know about the Senator from Illinois. I got it.
But rest assured the GOP will do what Senator Clinton (up to this point) is afraid to do……..send him back to Oprah.

Posted by: Mark David | April 3, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Obamamania, you do know that when Rev Wright said G….damn america he was referring to our foreign policies and not the people of this country. And he is not asking for reparations. And what is wrong with wanting to make peace with muslims and everyone else who hates the US. That is the world I want to live in.

Posted by: candy | April 3, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

I just cant beleive sombody said, Obama is stupid.

Posted by: Francjs | April 3, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Rendell has a SPINE, Richardson dos not..
Thank you, Ed for telling it as it is.
Truth will always save us, not fraud.
Obama is a FRAUD!!!
Beware!

Posted by: Jkan | April 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

Saying Obama is stupid just shows the ignorance on the part of the poster.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

Of course Richardson has a spine. How many people have stood up to the Clintons. Good for him. The Clintons are bullies. Didn’t you know that is why he endorsed Obama.

Posted by: candy | April 3, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Isn’t it time Hillary shows voters her tax returns?

Posted by: x32792 | April 3, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

How is it that a person can support a racist organization for more than twenty years and still support that organization and be considered for the presidency of the United States. I just don’t understand how a black person gets a pass on this where a white person would have been so brutally pummeled by the press he wouldn’t stand a chance at becoming president? This type of bias treatment by the left wing press outrages me and many other americans. I am not a racist. I am simply amazed that this type of unbalance treatment against white people is not seen as racism. You can not solve a problem by creating another problem.

Posted by: terribleTommy | April 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Obama’s not stupid. But he is a self proclaimed “bonehead”. Not a great trait for the leader of the free world.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 3, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Ok, I’ll bite. Why is Obama a bonehead.

Posted by: candy | April 3, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

He said his real estate deal with the indicted “Tony Rezko” was a “boneheaded” mistake.
Bonehead = Lack of Judgement.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

And this is what Ed Rendell is saying. People don’t know Obama.
FYI, the Rezko trial is taking place now in Chicago. Obama and Rezko have been very close friends for over 17 years. Obama had Rezko assist him in purchasing a home he could not otherwise afford in a very shady transaction. The Rezko trial has been dubbed “A CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION” which will undoubtly bring down many politicians. Obama will most likely be one of them.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

did someone actually say.. a clinton supporter…. did that person say.. “the truth will set you free..”?
wow… that was rich!
will all convicted liars please take one step forward?
will anyone here… who has been impeached for lying… please take one step forward?
will anyone here who was a lawyer on the watergate committee … and was fired for LYING… please… take one step forward?
will anyone here.. who had to dodge “sniper fire with her daughter and Sinbad… please… take one step forward?
will anyone who said “he told me five times to my face that he would endorse Hilary (they haven’t even been face to face FIVE TIMES since the super bowl!)… please take one step forward?
(as you might imagine… it goes on and on)

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Chris Matthews gets a “chill up his leg ” when BHO speaks…I get a chill down my spine when I hear him. My Gov. Rendell is right on the money with BHO. I live in Philly, ..Rendell was a great mayor, he was able to get this city out fo the “red” while keeping city services at a high level. What has BHO ever done that qualifies him to be president of the U.S. Everyone should think about who they want sitting across from the Chinese premier or Vladimir Putin discussing a treaty or policy. These people will not be swayed by a speech.

Posted by: Jim | April 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

jim… he was a great mayor. i liked him from all the way out here. i wish he had run for the executive office!
but please… tell me.. one thing that Hilary has accomplished … ON HER OWN. HER… she… has accomplished. in all her “35 yrs”… what has SHE done.
she didn’t even write her own little book (it takes a village)
Your Gov? love him. wish he was ours!

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

SO FAR, OBAMA IS BIG ON WORDS AND LIGHT ON ACTIONS. THAT INCLUDES PRODUCING CHANGE IN HIS CAREER IN CHICAGO OR THE WASHINGTON.

Posted by: More big Obama talk no actions. | April 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

I’m with drzoom. Please enlighten me as to what exactly Hillary has done. I need to get the popcorn out, this should be good

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

lisa? its going to be a while. you might want to get a blanket too

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

lol drzoon, maybe a pillow too. I really want to know the answer to this.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

yep… me too.

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

drzoon…I respect your kind words about Gov. Rendell…but answering my question about obama with a question about Clinton is not a honest assessment of his experience, If you can’t give any reasons than why question hers, I quess we should just vote for McCain?

Posted by: Jim | April 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

just as i thought. NOTHING.
let me help you: she voted for the war? she did that one … all by herself! of course she didn’t take time out to at least crack open the NIE, which was pretty clear that this was a war not worth starting.
so… yes. she did manage to accomplish that. doing her part in killing 4000+ of our servicemen and women. and ruining 100′s of thousands of lives of others. and killing around a million Iraqis.. and displacing (refugees) two million more.
so there you go… she always has THAT.
oh… oh oh oh… and… she has ruining this country’s last chance for a decent health care plan! ask Congressman Cooper about what she told him (he had a plan already in the works… with support from both partys) (hint: i think it was “back off, or i will crush you”)
there’s more… want it?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

as much as i hate to admit it… Ronald Reagan was the last American to accomplish ANYTHING in international relations.
before him…. jimmy carter.. with sadat….
so…. its a rather small club. and hilary or bill dont belong to it either
wait… actually… thats not true! Bill Clinton did (with Hilary’s help… ram NAFTA down this country’s throat)

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

lisa: she played a very important role in negotiating the Irish Peace Plan!

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

DANG! that turned out to be a lie! didn’t it?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

LMAO ok right. I remember her story. Get the violen out. What a heroin.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

oh,..oh,..oh,??? lets see Obama didn’t vote again’st the war becuase he was not a us senater when the vote was taken and did not see any reports, unlike so many of his colleagues, but he did vote to fund the killing of american lives and wound hundreds of thousands more …I guess he will always have those votes on his anti-war record. And thanks Obama for voting for the Cheney energy bill…I’m just loving these gas prices and tax credits he gave to the oil company’s. He is smart but he does not have much experience yet, so chill out with the empty outrage when someone questions why he should be president now.

Posted by: Jim | April 3, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

there is an argument that says…. voting for a energy bill has the same moral gravity as going to war?
wow.
and voting to protect and feed and support GI’s… is not a vote that you use AGAINST someone. as a matter of fact… do you know who shoved the bill through the senate that told the VA that they couldn’t charge the guys at walter reed and like hospitals… for food and phone calls
so… really. i’m serious.
tell us … what has Hilary done.. ANYWHERE?
i mean that. it can be small… don’t be embarrassed. even the little stuff counts

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Thats funny you still have not list his accomplishments either…too much popcorn? …Oh by the way his can be small also and will be.

Posted by: Jim | April 3, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Jim, it’s on record that Obama opposed the war. With that said, of course he will vote to fund it to keep our troops safe. How could he not. They are our number one priority.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

as you might know… with you backing another Jr Senator yourself. when you are not in the majority.. its pretty much impossible to get anything through “the machine”. Sr Senators like to keep you in your place.. and if your party is not the majority party… its even more difficult.
but along with the bill (that was passed and signed) to protect vets in the VA… he also got the best ethics bill drafted and passed and signed in a long long time. he did it with uniting freshman class in the new senate… both sides of the isle.
i’m pretty sure you and i both know Hilary wasn’t anywhere to be found when all of that was happening.
so… your turn

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

okay…. well… i take that as ….
nothing? hilary … HERSELF… hasn’t accomplished .. ANYTHING?
let me help you. its looks like she did a pretty good job as a mother. Chelsea seems like a good person.. and hasn’t been pulled over for DUI.
there… how’s that?

Posted by: drzoon | April 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Well I’m still waiting to hear what Hillary has accomplished…….anyone????

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

Today, Republican John McCain portrayed Barack Obama as a national security neophyte who was dishonestly misrepresenting him on Iraq.
McCain questioned Obama’s plan to leave a “strike force” of US troops in the Middle East after an eventual withdrawal from Iraq, and accused him of being “disingenuous” about his own Iraq stance.
Obama has pledged to end the war in Iraq in 2009 amd said this week that he would leave enough troops in the country to defend the US embassy, along with a strike force in the region to hobble Al-Qaeda.
“I think somebody ought to ask what in the world he’s talking about, especially since he has no experience or background at all in national security affairs,” said McCain.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Don’t you think that Obama has national security advisors all around him. Omg, please no more republicans and war. Our troops need to come home.

Posted by: lisa | April 3, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Republicans and war?
Perhaps a lesson in history would be in order. Let’s start with the 20th century and proceed:
World War I – President Woodrow Wilson- Democrat
World War II – President Franklin Roosevelt – Democrat
Korean War – President Harry Truman – Democrat (Eisenhower inherited the problems from this one)
Viet Nam Conflict – Presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson (Nixon inherited the problems from this one)
Iraq – President George H.W. Bush – Republican
Bosnia – President William Clinton – Democrat
Iraq/Afghanistan – President George W. Bush – Republican
Many other small conflicts were about evenly spread among the two parties, but, by far, Democrats qualify as producing significant loss of life and destruction of property in American wars.
Or, is there an Obama spin to this one, too?

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 4, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Jayhawk, I’m talking about the war in Iraq, which we have no business being there. The republicans did that to us.

Posted by: lisa | April 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Why Obama supporters are angry of what Rendell has to say the truth is. Even them they still don’t know the real Obama but just go blind and deaf of what Obama has done to deceive the voters. His campaign ads are fooling the voters ( big oil issue) , all the facts about his resume is doubful including the truth of his enthenicity, whether he is half Arab or Black. If truth hurts,and reality bites their pride of choosing Obama.. just be honest .. I am sure they are also having doubts about their Idol.

Posted by: asd | April 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Regardless of how the Iraq Conflict started, we are there.
While I didn’t agree with the reasons and methods used to get us into war, we are there.
If we were not, Sadaam and the Iranians would control the oil in the Middle East.
The gasoline that people complain about at $3 or $4 a gallon would be about twice as much.
Like it or not, we are there.
And, while I don’t support McCain, he has this one right.
Promising the American public that our troops can all be brought home in one year or less reeks of political pandering and shows “no experience or background at all in national security affairs.”

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

jayhawk… do you know what “fell the roman empire”?

Posted by: drzoon | April 4, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

And, of course, the big news tonight was the leaders of the Wright church and denomination that fostered Obama’s religious beliefs for the past 20 years or so.
The “spiritual advisor” and “old uncle” just seems to keep coming back again, and again, and again.
But, as was reflected on CNN, the best about the Wright saga is yet to come.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 4, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am

Jayhawk, Cheney and his thugs wanted a war because of oil. Bush claimed mission accomplished, what a moron. Iraq is in a civil war because of us. And please don’t say regardless or how we got there…….We wouldn’t be there if Rove and Chaney weren’t in office.

Posted by: lisa | April 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

jayhawk… and jim.
who is our enemy in Iraq?

Posted by: drzoon | April 4, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

When Rendell was chairman of the DNC, he took $15,000 from Rezko.
He’s swings deals with Bill’s buddy Ron Burkle.
He’s sucked up to the Clinton’so he can get in on the bounty.

Posted by: JB | April 4, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am

And now we fined out that Obama is a smoker.

Posted by: Fran | April 4, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

there’s something about Rendell that’s increasingly creepy. he comes off like a Mafia guy who won’t burn your house down as long as you stay on his good side.
i’m not sure he’s an asset to Clinton’s campaign.

Posted by: matt | April 4, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

Rendell is really a very unappealing person. There is a huge disconnect between his words and his demeanor and his behavior. Creepy

Posted by: JDS | April 4, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

Fifty percent of the country doesn’t like Hillary because of the vague memories we have of all she’s been involved in and because she continually proves to us that she lies first and thinks later all the time. If she should become the nominee, the republicans would see to it that we all remembered every single little nasty detail. The stuff in Obama’s column is small potatoes in comparison. I hope the country doesn’t have to go through that again.

Posted by: karela | April 4, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Rendell is just one more example of a Clinton campaign that’s completely out of touch. Of all the surrogates in the Clinton camp, THIS is the one who’s front and center? Yeesh! He’s as bad as Nita Lowey! Out of touch, out of ideas, out of options…Clinton 2008!

Posted by: Anne | April 4, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

This poor bigot tried for 16 years to get elected and now he is ignoring his state while he tries for a job in a magical win with Clinton. He keeps trying to ignite the Wright issue again…and he just dosen’t get it…no one cares anymore…so good luck with finding that other 50% that the voters that have elected him 3 time in IL have not found LOL Obama has been in elected office for 8 years…anyone with a brain KNOWS where he stands on most issues just like we all KNOW Clinton is a pattern liar…but hey he thinks those Republican 527′s won’t go after her? Right when monkey’s fly outa her rear!

Posted by: Brian | April 4, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

This man is a sloth. Apparently no self control..he should fit right in with Bill…..He is unlikable and I wonder how he ever go elected in the first place! Is he looking for a job with the Clintons? Isn’t he aware they eat idiots like him for lunch? What a pin head!

Posted by: Deanna | April 4, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

Well, the 90% we do know about Hillary is NOT GOOD so yeah you can win on Racism and lies but that’s not the person I want in the White House. It’s unbeleiveable how the people that Hillary surrounds herself with keep bringing up the Race issue (Ferraro and now Randell). PATHETIC!”You’ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,” Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday’s paper.MSBCnews

Posted by: Heidi Preston | April 4, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

He is what is wrong with the party. Big machine politics pushing his candidate no matter what he has to say or do.
Wonder what we don’t know about him.

Posted by: maxmcgloin | April 4, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

I’m willing to bet that the 50% we don’t
know about Obama is just as good as the
50% we do know.
That is integrity, honesty, conscience,
and empathy. It’s also the courage to
face the problem head-on and not be
disingenuous. Unfortunately, I can’t
say the same about Hillary.

Posted by: Richard Bentley | April 4, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

Rendell knows Barack Obama, but he doesn’t KNOW Barack Obama. Where is he coming from with this? He’s trying to scare people. He is too calculating.

Posted by: Rainy | April 4, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

Lisa and Dr. Zoon:
You wanted to know what Hillary Clinton has accomplished by herself?
FactChecker.org lists the following legislation that Senator Clinton sponsored on her own (not “co-sponsored” like most of Obama’s proposed billes) WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN ENACTED INTO LAW:
1) SB694 – A bill to direct the Secty of Transportation toissue regulations to reduce the incidence of child injury and death occurring inside or outside of light motor vehicles, and for other purposes. (110th congress)
2) SB272- A bill designating National Forest System land in the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico as a component of the National Wildnerness Preservation System (109th Congress)
3) A bill amending the Public Health Service Act to establish a program to assist family caregivers in acessing affordable and high-quality respite care (109th Congress);
4)SB 1425, A bill to amend the Safe Drinking Water Act to reauthorize the New York City Watershed Protection program (108th Congress);
5) SB 1422, A bill to provide for the expedited payment of certain benefits to public safety officers who were killed or suffered a catastrophic injury as a direct and proximate result of a personal injury sustained in the line of duty in connection with 9/11 (107th Congress)
6) SB 1622, A bill to extend the period of availability of unemployment assistance in the case of victims of the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 (107th Congress)
7) SB 2496, A bill to provide for the establishment of investigative teams to assess building performance and emergency response and evacuation procedures in the wake of any building failure that has resulted in substantial loss of life or that posed significant potential of substantial loss of life (107th Congress)
Other accomplishments on her own:
7) One of only two women appointed to the staff of the House Judiciary Committee on the impeachment of Richard Nixon;
8) Appointed by President Jimmy Carter to the Board of Directors of the Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit organization that provides Legal Services to the poor, when she was only 30 years old;
9) Staff attorney for the Children’s Defense fund, working with Exec. Director Marian Wright Edelman;
10) Led the American Bar Association’s Commission on Women in the [Legal] Profession, which did some of the earliest work and studies on sexual harassment and equal pay;
11) Served on the national Boards of the Childrens’ Defense Fund, the Child Care Action Campaign, and the Children’s Television workshop;
12) Graduate of Yale Law School and Wellesley college;
13) Voted to be first student commencement speaker at Wellesley College;
14) Re-elected to be Senator of New York with 67% of the vote.
What have either of you or Senator Obama accomplished that even comes close to this level of public service?
Lisa, you can sneer all you want about popcorn and pillows, but I doubt you will ever in your life accomplish anything close to what Senator Clinton has.

Posted by: anna, los angeles, ca. | April 4, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am

“Hillary campaign goes berserk”
[actually berserk_ly bizarre] next US media headlines… not just Hillary has lost any hope 4 office now or in future… getting all this dirty… i think her political career is over… she has demonstrated that she is not even worthy as member of the senate… All her SDs will have to pay in some political measure… but this Ed fella will pay dearly… some court cases pending against him i guess…
every trick of dirty tactics she plays will turn topsy turvy… no spin gonna work either… her basic personality traits with bad planning and managment made her a looser… and a bad looser @ that…

Posted by: haider ginwalla Ujjain India | April 4, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am

Rendell needs to go back to where he came from. His 5 minutes of fame have turned in to 5 minutes of insanity.

Posted by: rachel | April 4, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am

Rendell has become a hatchet man for the Clinton Liar’s Club

Posted by: John Rawlings | April 4, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am

I don’t understand how Gov Rendell can continue to say that Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate. It leads one to question his judgement as well. How can Hillary Clinton, who tries to bolster her foreign policy experience by telling lies about encountering sniper fire, who made up another story about it when shown a photo, and then only admitted to it after being presented with video footage of the actual event, along with a husband who lied to the American people about his immoral behavior as President- how can she be the stronger candidate??? What is Gov Rendell talking about? He seems to be discounting all the evidence of Barack Obama’s strength, completely forgeting his honest and courageous speech on race during a difficult period. I cannot imagine Hillary Clinton approaching a crisis in the same level-headed manner. Barack Obama is the superior candidate in every way- he has integrity, judgement, intelligence, and in addition, the ability to motivate and inspire!

Posted by: Carolyn Chapman | April 4, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am

Just because half of the Democrats like Obama, it doesn’t mean any Republicans like him.
It’s going to be ugly, children. That’s all Rendell is trying to tell you.

Posted by: Milo, MA | April 4, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

Lately Obama has been offering kisses to the ladies. He is hoping that all those who support Hillary will rush to his side to defend him against McCain. All I can say is, don’t depend on it, Barry. You might have to win this one on your own.
Of course, he and the others will blame Hillary for his loss. Rendell is trying to point this out to you, but you’re too busy throwing rocks to listen. But, that’s okay. McCain is smiling all the time these days for nothing.

Posted by: Milo, MA | April 4, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Why isn’t the mainstream media exposing the real Barack Obama?
No one really knows his record (not that he has one).
No one really knows his background (that he appears to be hiding)
No one is exposing his term as an Illinois senator (if you really call him that)
No one is really challenging him on his religious beliefs (once a Muslim, always a …)
No one is asking him about is real estate deals with the criminal in Illinois (and the governor)
No one is talking about his leniency on illegals (giving illegals drivers license)
No one is scrutinizing associations with Libia, Farakhan, and the same (which he associated with)
No one is trying to find out where all his money is really coming from (illegally?)
No one is exposing all his lies (he actually out lies Hillary by large amounts)
Why isn’t the media all over him, as they should be?
This man is dangerous. Where is all his money coming from? Who is REALLY financially backing him? All the housewives and college people do not have that kind of money! Really…I sincerely think an investigative report should be done just on his finances alone.
I have tried to post articles about him on my site (http://www.ziggidy.com) that others may not know about him…and IMO, there are TONS more waiting to be uncovered.
But who will do it and why has it not been done yet. Rev. Wright is just the tip of the iceberg…I am convinced of it.
Signed,
A Typical White Person, with a garlic nose!

Posted by: Ziggidy | April 4, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Just the fact that Gov Rendell is a Clinton supporter limits creditability to what he has to say. I strongly disagree with the statement the more people get to know Hillary the more people will like her. It should go like this the more people get to know Hillary,the more you find out flaws in her character, such as: divisiveness,blatant opportunist dangerously ambitious, untrustworthy
direspectful of rules qualities that would make a very poor leader.

Posted by: merle7 | April 4, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Well it is a 100% we know about hillary and Bill and 99% of that is all bad!

Posted by: merle7 | April 4, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

the hillary is vetted argument is about the biggest insult to intelligence one can think of … the clintons owe allof us who defended bill big time, the well has been dry for years

Posted by: Last last last time | April 4, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Nothing you can every say about Hillary can compare with “God Damn America”. Many people don’t like the sound of it. It’s divisive, uncivilized and racist.
The old white men of this country are willing to give the damning of America a pass. Why? Because right now, Obama is the cash cow. The old white men in power love the color green. Democrats are an embarrasement. McCain looks good in comparison.

Posted by: Milo, MA | April 4, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

The Obama supporters here obviously have computers and internet access. Take a break from posting valentines and do a little research instead. Look at the information you see with a jaundiced eye not blinded by adoration. What do you think the Republicans and 527s will do with this info in the general election?
Then consider that when they shed light on these things that Hillary and the MSM refuse to, how many Republicans and centrist Americans are going to rally around McCain? Obama will keep the strong base he holds now, but even some of his current supporters will either stay home or vote McCain.
I’m convinced that the Reps and 527s are ready and waiting for Obama. They’re hoping that new revelations don’t come to light before Hillary is out of it and Obama is theirs to crush.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 4, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Well, the 90% we do know about Hillary is NOT GOOD so yeah you can win on Racism and lies but that’s not the person I want in the White House. It’s unbeleiveable how the people that Hillary surrounds herself with keep bringing up the Race issue (Ferraro and now Randell). PATHETIC!”You’ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,” Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday’s paper.MSBCnews

Posted by: na you biko | April 4, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Rendell is not exactly the gospel of truth and consistency. He speaks much faster than he can think and would not attribute one iota of attention to what is pouring out of his mouth!

Posted by: Amadeo | April 4, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

wow. LOL. “The 527s” have become a bigger boogeyman than Al Qaeda.
Ed Rendell has just pronounced 527s more powerful and influential than the truth.

Posted by: D.A. | April 4, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

What Rendell is saying is a point in time statement….one thing hopefully experience has taught us about the Clintons though is that there is always another scandal just around the corner…

Posted by: indy_voter | April 4, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

We know Bush Sr as a man of wisdom, we know him as a person who applied judgement to a war but the Bush Jr is opposite, that is what John McCain is following.
Now we know something about Obama, he is a type of person who stood by his words even under difficult time, we know him as a person who use good judgement to opposed Iraq war, we know him as a person who can unite us, who can bring change.
But we know Hillaryb as who tell lies in order to gain credibility, we also known her to be somebody who can destroy other in order to get what she want.
To my imagination Gov. Rendell still telling us that we did not know this guy call Obama.
If he want to know more about Obama,let him go to Havard University and find out more about Obama, He will know more about him.
The little we known about Obama make him more electable to us. not the people who tell lies in order for us to like them.

Posted by: Kay | April 4, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Every now and then some surrogate makes a comment and some accept it as the gospel truth because the read on the internet.
Rendall claims that we don’t no 50% about Obama… Let me see, he’s already written 2 bestsellers about his life; exposing a lot of things that most people. especially candidates wouldn’t admit to.
If 50% about him is not known; then how does anyone know what’s not known to measure.
This is a crock…. A fearmongery that’s is typical of the Clinton campaign. It’s Rendall’s function to raise nebulous doubts about Obama; the media’s to spread it and the gullible’s to fall for it every time.
Just because the Clintons’ lives are full of so many sordid twist and turns doesn’t make Obama’s life that complicated as well.
Is Hillary fully vetted as she claims ?
Tax Returns …
google: Paul vs. Clinton …

Posted by: Xavier | April 4, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Michelle’s salary went from 120,000 to 340,000 two months after Barack became a Senator. She also was let into Harvard with poor grades etc. can one say affirmative action. We are going to grind these 2 imposters into the dirt as Rendel says ….Wrights sermone will be heard everyday with the question attached….’COULD YOU STAY IN A CHURCH THAT PREACHED SO MUCH HATE? COULD YOU? DO YOU WANT A PRESIDENT WHO DID AND STILL DOES? THINK ABOUT IT….” NOW THATS AN AD….

Posted by: frank | April 4, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

There may be 50% we don’t know about Obama, but there’s 90% we don’t know about Hillary Clinton. The remaining 10% we do know is not good.
Wake up people.

Posted by: Susan In PA | April 4, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

My question to Ed Redell is, “If you actually believe all that you have been stating concerning Barack Obama, when he become the nominee, how in good faith could you support and campaign for him?”

Posted by: Karen | April 4, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Hey! Just because Rendell is backing Clinton doesn’t make him the enemy! Jeez! He’s endorsing her, so of course he’s “selling” her to the electorate! Do you all really want another Republican to beat him next time? If not, shut the Hell up about him being the worst thing since Satan, and focus on the real opposition – the Reactionary Right. Neither Clinton nor Obama, or their spokespeople are the enemy!

Posted by: michael | April 4, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

It’s interesting that Rendell, as a Clinton supporter, receives the disparaging term of chief surrogate. In McCain speak: Surrogate, when designated as a pejorative for one individual, could also be extended to the individuals comprising the collective group. Have a nice day.

Posted by: katrina | April 4, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

didn’t like the message?

Posted by: John | April 4, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Anna in LA,
sorry you didn’t like the popcorn. I’ll put butter on it next time. So with all of Hillarys accomplishments how is it she can’t even run her own campaign. That says a lot about her. Having “accomplishments” does not mean that she can run this country.

Posted by: lisa | April 4, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Whoops! They’re baaaaack. Funny thing is they ask for evidence, you give it to em’, then they say it doesn’t mean anything.
Truth is, they don’t want to look at facts, make an informed decision, admit that their candidate may not be ready, or worse yet, have to realize that Barack is a FRAUD who is simply not electable.
I have seen this pattern by the Obama supporters for quite some time now and have come to realize that their main objective is to derail the talking points. This is how they try to keep the truth from being told. Ed Rendell is spot on about Obama. No one knows a thing about this guy. What little we do know is either uneventful or downright creepy.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 4, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Unfortunately america will deserve the president that is elected.

Posted by: Kim | April 4, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

He stayed at the church for the reason most people stay at their churches- because they believe in God and Jesus and want to learn the lessons of Christianity. Until you’ve watched the other videos and truly given Wright the benefit of the doubt, you have not right to judge Obama.

Posted by: Didi | April 4, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Obama did five hours of work for Rezko. He did accept campaign donations from Tony Rezko, over $120,000 of which he subsequently donated to charity. The purchase of the property adjoining his home with Rezko’s help was stupid. He should sell it. If he does, there’s nothing to talk about.
The other candidates are no cleaner in this respect. John McCain was deeply involved with the Keating 5. Hillary Clinton took $850k from Norman Hsu, most of which she kept.
The main difference is that most Americans are accustomed to being lied to by Clintons and they don’t realize how often John McCain lies. They don’t know Barack Obama as well, so every story comes as a shock. I sometimes fear his arrogance will get the better of him. I hope his intelligence and his authentic desire to help our country trump that.

Posted by: Danielle | April 4, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Ed Rendell got to be a Mr. Head or worst. What a man saying such a thing about his own party. He must be a Republican. He’s been talking a lot of crap lately. Desperation or he’s just an idiot. I wonder what Hilary promise him….. Man they are just so hateful now the true colors coming out. Destroying the Dem. party very slowly.

Posted by: Dell54 | April 4, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

“. . . I will grant you that, but I would say there’s also about 50% about Barack Obama that we don’t know yet,” Rendell said.
Only 50% that is not known about Obama? That seems low.

Posted by: Toby | April 4, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

The Hillary haters just crack me up! I read comments that say Hillary has not accomplished anything in the Senate. That could be farther from the truth! If you people did your research instead of acting like you know what you are talking about, you would find out that Hillary has gotten several things done as a Senator from New York. You Hillary haters just don’t want to know the real facts, thats all. I have family that live in Pennsylvania, and they like Gov. Ed Rendell. sc, yes he has a day job, its called the Governor of Pennsylvania.

Posted by: PB | April 5, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Isn’t it ironic that Obama can tout his anti-war speech that he made while still a state senator, but he can’t produce any personal papers, daily schedules, et al to get a sense of his background??
And the worst of it is his, my dog ate my homework excuse, saying that they must have gotten thrown out or put in storage.
So, which is it? There’s a good reason we don’t know enough about Barack Obama, but he’s been pretty busy making sure that all of the data known to man gets released about Hillary. Now that the taxes have been released, I’d like to see the press put the heat on Obama to produce his personal papers while in the State Senate.
Isn’t it common procedure and protocol to maintain such records as a public figure?
I guess the fewer records the less likely more embarrassing information will surface.
Just another fine example of the double standard for the two candidates running for the democratic nomination.

Posted by: OhioNative | April 5, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

I was very impressed by Governor Rendell’s comments. He made a lot of sense. The fact is that Barack Obama is a well packaged liberal candidate about which people know nothing. He speaks only in generalities and everything he does is calculated not to offend, but nothing he does tells you where he stand or what you are actually voting for in the election.
I am more concerned about Barack Obama than I have been about any candidate for federal office than I have in a very long time because he is openly deceptive about where he stands. I think he will place certain things first, and we will only learn what those things that are near and dear to Barack Obama’s heart after the election. He will not be a President to place America first. He will place Africa First. That is the missionary emphasis of the church of Jeremiah Wright. There is a lot of emphasis about Reverend Writght, but I think it is important to note what the teaching of the church are about the kind of works that Americans should do. No one is asking Barack Obama these questions.
Finally, I want to make one predicition about the Presidency of Barack Obam. Senator Obama has gone at great lengths recently to repudiate the words of Jeremiah Wright. But I predict that Jeremiah Wright, the man who is recorded as saying “God damn you, America”, will be the one person Barack Obama will choose to administer the Oath of Office. That will be the first clue to Americans that will tell them what kind of President they have elected. But by then, though they will know they have chosen a deceiver for President, it will be too late. But don’t go by what Mike Moody says. Ask Barack Obama a straight out question. Who will you choose to administer the Oath of Office to you when you are publicly sworn into office as President of the United States.

Posted by: Mike Moody | April 5, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Hillary has surpassed all measures of deceptions and political trickery for a candidate to a public office, let alone the presidency!! What is interesting about her die heart supporters is that all of this evil is OK with them and is part of the war to get elected. What this shows is hatred for this country pure and simple; hatred for democracy, and for decent values in the political system of government and a blatant enforcement of Machiavellian system that puts this country at the doorstep of Nazism. Yes, Randell is that kind of person and is willing to destroy this country for this political agenda.

Posted by: Jan E | April 6, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

mike moody: get a job. you have way way too much time on your hands. Barack isn’t going to sell us down the river to Africa! my god man… where were you when Bill Clinton was selling us down the river to China? (on the behalf of Wal-Mart of course!)
what is it that just scares people about a black man?

Posted by: drzoon | April 7, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

ohionative: i have been dying to find someone from that place! do you know that Ohio is seen as pretty much the “political screwups” of this country? you guys zig when you should zag! example: you will BELIEVE Hilary when she says she was “against” NAFTA… AND… believe her when she says Barack is FOR it!
you’ve pulled this crap every election cycle… and because of your horrible judgment, we have had a string of LOSERS!
when this is over…. i really have to think about going to Ohio and selling some bridges!

Posted by: drzoon | April 7, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

PB…. tell me, what did she do? you don’t need to go into detail…. just give me the broad strokes! in her “35 years” what has she accomplished? i was at ground zero with the health care initiative. i can easily tell you what she did… to screw that up.
Considering i am the one who started that “what did she do…” string, my question was: “what has SHE done. we know it wasn’t ANYTHING in bosnia. it was all done and “in the can” for a couple of years by the time she showed up. we know it wasn’t Ireland Peace Plan (no need to go into detail on that one i suppose. just ask senator george mitchell), we know it was nothing more than maybe “pillow talk” with the children’s health care plan (ask senators hatch and kennedy… Bill wouldn’t even sign it)… we know it wasn’t speaking up against the stupid stupid war!
what was it that SHE did? not something that someone else did that she made sure HER name was on it.

Posted by: drzoon | April 7, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

PB…. tell me, what did she do? you don’t need to go into detail…. just give me the broad strokes! in her “35 years” what has she accomplished? i was at ground zero with the health care initiative. i can easily tell you what she did… to screw that up.
Considering i am the one who started that “what did she do…” string, my question was: “what has SHE done. we know it wasn’t ANYTHING in bosnia. it was all done and “in the can” for a couple of years by the time she showed up. we know it wasn’t Ireland Peace Plan (no need to go into detail on that one i suppose. just ask senator george mitchell), we know it was nothing more than maybe “pillow talk” with the children’s health care plan (ask senators hatch and kennedy… Bill wouldn’t even sign it)… we know it wasn’t speaking up against the stupid stupid war!
what was it that SHE did? not something that someone else did that she made sure HER name was on it.
i mean, when you think of it, she didn’t even write her own book (It Takes A Village). It was written by a ghost writer.
i am open. i really am. i really want to know what it is that this person has accomplished in those 35 years! 35 years is a long long time to be doing one thing (public serivce). what did she do with those 35 years?

Posted by: drzoon | April 7, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Why I will not vote for Obama:
1. Are we likely to get GOOD CHANGES in Energy policy from an Obama administration?
Answer: NO. Why Not?
Because: Obama voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R. 6) in 2005.
(which enabled the nuke industry to begin planning to build 29 new nukes (one of them in Pennsylvania)
- after 30 years of no new nukes being built because the banks wouldn’t loan the money – too risky.
The Cheney Energy Bill solved that problem for the nuke industry by guaranteeing taxpayer payback of any of the nuke loans that default … (with the risk of default rated by the Congressional Budget Office at 50% or greater).
Because: Obama has been IN with the nuke industry for decades. Excelon Corp. of Illinois is the largest nuke operator on earth – ( they own the nuclear power plants in Illinois and they own Con-Ed in NY state). Excelon has been one of Obama’s largest contributors since his earliest days in politics.
Because: Obama would not even be IN the race for president IF he was not HEAVILY SUPPORTED by the nuke industry. GE (2nd largest corporation on the planet) & Westinghouse are planning to build many of those nukes.
GE owns NBC & MSNBC. Westinghouse owns CBS. That’s the reason “the Mainstreams Media” are PUSHING Obama for President/ slamming & smearing the Clintons. ABSENT BILLIONS of dollars worth of FREE Pro-Obama Advertising/Propaganda provided by NBC/MSNBC/and CBS Obama would not have gotten past the New Hampshire primary.
2. Are we likely to get GOOD CHANGES in the ECONOMY?
Answer: It doesn’t look good. Obama’s financial advisors include the followng people:
JEFFREY LIEBMAN: SOCIAL SECURITY: In a 2005 policy paper Liebman advocated a mix of benefit cuts, tax increases and mandatory personal accounts.
DAVID CUTLER: HEALTHCARE: He Says High Health Care Costs are Good.
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: RICH GETTING RICHER, EVERYBODY ELSE GETTING POORER:
The stagnation of middle- and working-class incomes, and the anxiety this has generated, is, he says, a most pressing problem, but policymakers must be mindful about trying to address its root cause, which Goolsbee says is “radically increased returns to skill.” ( i.e. College degrees are paying off more & more — which is true, BUT Certainly DOES NOT account for the rise of the super rich, nor the increasing poverty of everyone else.)
(Evidently, Goolsbee’s not old enough to remember the beginning of that Income Inequality, or to recognize THE CAUSE. It began in 1981. THE CAUSE of it was and is that Reagan cut the top tax rate DOWN from 70% to the low 30% s, AND Corporations all over America BEGAN instituting “THE TWO-TIER WAGE STRUCTURE’. i.e. Pay the people at the top a LOT MORE, Pay Everybody Else a LOT LESS. (If you searched old newspaper archives from the early 1980s you would find newspaper articles about the sudden appearance of the Two-Tier Wage Structure.)
3. Are we likely to get GOOD CHANGES in Foreign Policy?
Answer: Not Likely.
Among a dozen or so Foreign Policy Advisors the most “senior” advisor is:
Zbigniew Brzezinski. Former National Security Advisor to President Carter. Using the CIA & Billions of dollars, he ginned up a War in Afghanistan …. seeking as he said to “give the Soviet Union its own Vietnam.”.
He Created the Taliban and Al Queda/ JIHAD/madrassa brainwashing schools for that purpose. Supported the dictator Pol Pol who massacred millions of Cambodian villagers. When asked, if in hindsight, considering that Al Queda eventually attacked America, and Pol Pot slaughtered millions – IF he would change anything he had done …. Zbig answered NO, he was satisfied with the results.
Electing Obama President is not likely to reassure the rest of the world that the U.S. is going to cease having an insane foreign policy; is likely to put Russia on an even more nervous hair trigger than they are now.
The major problem with Obama and his advisiors is they are ACADEMICS who have lived the life of privilege out of touch with the real world — Better educated and smarter than Bush’s gang — they are still likely to do just as badly at running the government — for the same reason: OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY … i.e. insane….people doing insane things.
4. Are we likely to get GOOD CHANGES in: appointing competent qualified people to run the government; instead of cronyism, or good changes that get rid of fraud, payoffs, and corruption in government?
Answer: No.
Because: Obama’s friend Rezko was part and parcel of the mafia connected, corrupt, Daley Chicago political machine. Rezko was Obama’s chief fundraiser from the beginning of his career in Illinois politics to his election to the U.S. Senate. There is very little coverage of the Obama Rezko/Daley corruption connections on National TV, but the local Chicago papers have a lot of info going back several years … & it don’t look good for Obama. He got IN with the Daley machine when his wife worked as an assistant to one of Daley’s higher ups; Obama looks to be part and parcel of the same corrupt Daley political machine as his friend Rezko.
Some of the above is speculation based on facts.. What I KNOW Obama HAS ALREADY DONE makes all the above doubts and questions irrelevant in answering the question:
Is Obama qualified to be, or likely to be, a GOOD President?
Answer: NO. He has already done something so unconscionable, so dirty, so dangerous that no sane American would even consider voting for him. HE played the race card.
Those accusations of racism against the Clintons did not come from any public “Outcry” on the part of black people all over the country – those accusations of racism came solely and directly from the Obama Campaign. Obama was caught red-handed pushing those accusations to the press – in a 4-page Internal Campaign Memo – Listing those accusations & directing them to the press. The Huffington Post obtained a copy & published it on the web.
Shortly thereafter, during one of the debates, Tim Russert (MSNBC) ….. while rustling a copy of the 4-page Memo in his hand …. asked Obama …. your campaign has been pushing accusations of racism to the press (rustles pages) …. in a 4-page campaign memo …. what do you have to say about that?
Obama mumbled a few sentences ….( people in both campaigns get carried away and say things they shouldn’t have said … blah..blah) …. and …. then MSNBC/ the mainstream media …. NEVER MENTIONED IT AGAIN!.
Instead, MSNBC/NBC/CBS and all the rest of the mainstream CORPORATE-CONTROLLED media just went right on endlessly PUSHING the SAME totally ridiculous false accusations of “racism”.
Obama made those accusations of racism …. in order to win the South Carolina primary. Obama has continued to make accusations of racism … every time …. he falls behind in the polls. The question is: What USE of RACISM / inter-racial strife would he NOT stoop to IF elected President.
Which brings us to the Question: Is it likely Obama will TRANSCEND race… .Get Past the Politics of DIVISION;.. …..Unite this Country?
Given the DIVISION he has already created by making false accusations of racism – the answer is a resounding:
HELL NO!
Obama is the CORPORATE-CONTROLLED candidate being PUSHED by the CORPORATE-CONTROLLED Media.
Same Media that sold TOO MANY AMERICANS on Bush/Cheney. Same Media that SOLD U.S. a War.

Posted by: elme | April 8, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Why I will Vote for Hillary Clinton:
1. ENERGY: We know we need to change to Cheaper, Cleaner, DE-Centralized/NOT Monopoly controlled Energy.
Clinton states that her Energy Plan does not include nuclear; nuclear can be considered … in the future …. IF and when they find a way to MAKE IT CHEAPER and Find a way to safely dispose of nuclear waste.
(Obama and McCain have said they are Pro-Nuclear).
2. ECONOMY: The Clintons are the only candidates with ANY experience in TURNING an ECONOMY around before it slides into economic meltdown …. engendering unprecedented economic growth …. during the 1990′s …following Reagan/Bush 1′s wholesale looting of the majority of the public and the public treasury.
3. FOREIGN POLICY: Returning the Clintons to the White House will Return the Rest of The World’s Governments and Peoples to the SAME unprecedented High Level of Goodwill, RESPECT, and TRUST for the U.S. Government as they had during Bill Clinton’s administration.
4. COMPETENT QUALIFED PEOPLE RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT:
Same as during Bill Clinton’s administration.
5. REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS instead of cronyism, payoffs, corruption in Government.
The Clinton administration was investigated far more than any other entity in the history of the world.
Investigated by people who hated them AND desperately wanted to find a way to find them guilty of payoffs, corruption, SOMETHING, anything ….. Following 8 years and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of investigations the Clintons were not found guilty of ANY KIND of political corruption — (which practically makes them eligible for political Sainthood).
As best I can see the Clintons are the candidates being backed by the GOOD wealthy people. Bill Clinton has spent the past eight years …. promoting and expanding CHARITY – particularly among the rich.
When Clinton was president what kind of legislation did he manage to get passed- despite a Republican Controlled Congress?
Two Examples: The Family and Medical Leave Act …. for the benefit of ordinary American working class people, and the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts. (The two most essential elements for life on this planet.)
Put the Clintons back in the White House WITH a Democrat-Controlled Congress AND the REAL CHANGES We the People Need CAN get made.

Posted by: elme | April 8, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

rendell is a known racist. he was the DA of philly back in the 80s and was involved in the bombing of the MOVE house in west philly. that bombing killed 11 people, including kids. he has done nothing to rectify his part of the problem. i don’t trust him AT ALL. so if hillary is accepting his support just so she can win pennsylvania… then i cannot support her. it’s impossible.
bad move, hillary. there are plenty of black folks out here who will never forget what happened to MOVE! we’ll never forget the name rendell. it’s a bad move to have that name connected with your own.

Posted by: abd26 | April 15, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

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