Hillary Clinton Mellencamp Calls Obama Remarks ‘Elitist’; Obama Admits Less-Than-Eloquence

Now let me see if I have this straight…
A woman who has spent the last two decades living in the governor’s mansion, the White house and on an estate in upstate New York and a town house in the city, while making over $100 million in 7 years, and a guy who married a heiress and has been living the life of a millionaire senator – are claiming that a guy, who until recently was still struggling to pay off his student loans and lives in a Chicago neighborhood, is elitist?
Wow… ain’t America a wonderful place?

We’ll have to let John Mellencamp know…bet he’s not a Hillary Fan!

Hillary is a disaster!
If she really thinks we’re so proud and happy…she’s the one who is out of touch with the American people!
We are losing our jobs!
We are losing our homes!
We are losing our American Soldiers!
We are falling behind in our education!
We are angry Hillary! And the first thing you should do is quit acting like an ELITIST and apologize for your support in NAFTA that took those jobs away in the first place! But more importantly, apologize for your vote to strike Iraq that took away 4000+ american soldiers!
Or are you too high and mighty to apologize to the American people!

plainbrown1:
Where is information available on student loan repayment? Obama graduated from Harvard in 1993. Usually, student loans have a 10-year term. I would have thought he’d have been done paying the loans four years ago. Michelle’s loans should have been paid off well before that because she was finished with school years before her husband. Again, where’s the repayment information–I’d like to see it.
As for living in the Chicago neighborhood, I seriously doubt their $1.5 million home is located anywhere near Jeremiah Wright’s church and surrounding neighborhood. In fact, I definitely sure that the $1.6 million home that Trinity owns in Tinley Park, Illinois, and apparently plans to provide to Wright rent-free is nowhere near Trinity.
Keep backing and filling.

I think I lost my interest in Hillary misrepresentations of what Obama said. In doing so, she will lose even more support from the SD’s. I’m glad she’s badly losing this race; as someone who “stands up” for working class America she is as fake and and untrustworthy and implausible (as a multi-millionaire in bed with a free trade lobbyist) as they get. She’s horrible, I loathe her and wish I’d never see or hear anything from her again in the rest of my life. That’s what I think, and feel.

If it were not two Washington insiders running against Obama, this story may have some legs. However, it is hard for either Clinton or McCain to claim the have watched out for the small towns of America during their time in the spotlight.
Additionally, the response to this “gaffe” by the Obama campaign has been interesting to watch and an compare. He has taken responsibility and started to use it to his advantage. The average American is bitter and unhappy with their government (81% wrong track numbers). They do feel forsaken as their houses are taken away and their jobs do not pay what they used to. They cannot afford daycare, but need two jobs to pay their bills. Despite these problems, politicians continue to run on wedge issues (god, gays, and guns.) Obama simply said what most of us who are not elites know.
What has been the response by McCain and Clinton? Clinton plays the song “Small Town” with Mellencamp but fails to explain why she supported NAFTA and various other trade deals that are bad for the middle class. McCain continues to claim we need to throw money down a hole in the Middle East, not realizing the problem that creates of our economy. If either of there two understood or bothered to listen to the entirety of the quote, they would realize why Obama’s campaign caught fire in the first place.
Oh and by the way, at least Obama realized he made a misstatement, acknowledged it and has tried to clarify. Hillary continues to claim she was not lying about Bosnia and God knows what else. McCain still refuses to acknowledge that he wants to keep us in Iraq until my grandchildren are voting.
I for one will take the candidate who will tell it like it is to me; who understands the problems. I would take Obama every day of the week and twice on Sunday over either of the other choices.

plainbrown1:
The issue is it’s easier to paint Obama has an elitist because it is unusual for a black man to make close to $1 million, go to Harvard, and have any job of such great distinction. And I call Obama a “black man” because if he was anything else than what he is now and we saw him on the street…..he would be described as a “black man”. You’d be hard-pressed to find someone with one black parent and one white parent NOT described as “black”.
But to continue….it’s not as unusual for a white person of ANY sex to have accumulated so much wealth and status. It’s actually considered normal, but although Obama has earned less than 1% of both the other candidates, they want to paint him as an elitist because there is no way a black man could be on their level and not be considered as such. Clinton and McCain are not racist in the traditional sense but they are not above playing on racial perceptions to win. They both know damn well what Obama was getting at. They could have criticized him for a poor choice of words to make his point. That’s valid. But to go far off the realm of commonsense and tag him as an elitist when they both make him look like a welfare case is just ridiculous. It should also be of note ALL of the candidates attended elite schools. ONLY OBAMA ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING OF DISTINCTION. Clinton was marginal and rather average. McCain barely graduated on time.

Just further evidence of how incompetent
and out of touch with reality Obama
is….

I think Hillary is trying to get as much political capital out of it as she can. I don’t for a moment believe her take.

I’d rather have a president that sees and understands my anger and bitterness. Recognizing the problem is the first step to fixing it!
Hillary, the only one who’s happy and proud right now is you…raking in all those millions from shady foreign governaments and making money off your outsourcing stocks!
You’re the only one who has it good right now! No wonder you can’t see how angry and bitter the rest of us are…your $109,000,000.00 is blocking your view of the rest of the country!

I’m more ashamed of ABC to think that this is news and not the number of deaths continuing to snowball in Iraq. Sen. Obama will be our next president. Get over it MSM. You are losing the fight as much as Clinton and that really ticks you off doesn’t it?

HILLARY! YOU WILL NEVER STEP AWAY FROM YOUR MILLIONS AND ACCEPT THE GRIM REALITY THAT WE ARE ANGRY AND BITTER!
WE ARE LOSING OUR JOBS, OUR HOMES, OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO A SENSELESS WAR!
YOU NEED TO STOP ACTING LIKE WE ARE ALL LIVING IN YOUR WORLD OF MILLIONS!
OBAMA GETS IT! HE SAID HE WOULD ALWAYS TELL IT TO US LIKE IT IS! AND HE’S RIGHT ON THIS!

This country we call America is great and proud.Hillary has done nothing more than speak for us all. Most of my generation grew up like Hillary. Some of us got a larger piece of the pie than others, but that does not mean we are bitter or misguided like Obama cares to tell us we are. Who is he? I never would believe that the Democratic Party would get behind this fake. We all want to end the war in Iraq, but I didn’t expect my party to end America as well.Small Town America just wants to be a cake eater once in a while yet enjoy and respect each other when doing so.

HILLARY MAKES MONEY EVERYTIME JOBS GET OUTSOURCED TO CHINA OR INDIA!
SHE’S GOT STOCK IN COMPANIES LIKE TATA CONSULTATIONS…TATA CONSULATIONS IS A COMPANY THAT IS HIRED BY CORPORATIONS TO HELP THEM TRANSITIONS JOBS LIKE I.T. TO INDIA AND CHINA. WHEN THEY TAKES JOBS AWAY FROM AMERICA, THEIR STOCKHOLDERS MAKE MONEY…AND HILLARY HAS STOCKS IN THAT COMPANY!
HILLARY…SEEMS YOU’RE THE ONE OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN WORKERS!

Is telling the truth a taboo in America?
Is ‘bitter’ a taboo word because we’re all such optimistic folks, regardless of how we are mistreated and misrepresented by our government?
Is Hillary blind and deaf for what’s going on in small town America?
Is the establishment getting scared by a man and a movement that call for REAL change?

Hilly is a good one to talkk everytime she opens her mouth it is to say what she thinks the people want to hear and 99.9% of the time she don’t give a crap she want power and she don’t care how she gets it.I know she DON”T speaks for me in any shape matter of form…

Its interesting how Obama has not done to Hillary what she is now doing to him on this “bitter” issue, i.e. saying “I don’t think America wants a president that lies to them to falsely build up a resume to get elected” and “when faced with certain defeat, implore to all that will hear, that the rules need to change to give the one losing a second chance to win”.
Yeah, that’s what I want all Americans to learn: Lie and cheat to get what you want.

TURTH ABOUT HILLARY AND TATA CONSULTATION—YOU MUST READ!!!!!
Los Angles, July 30, 2007
Gary Singh
In 2003, Tata Consultancy Services of India (TCS) opened a office in Buffalo with the help of Hillary Rodham Clinton and told a newspaper that it might hire as many as 200 people.
Tata has done more to undercut workers in upstate New York than it has helped
In 2003, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the high-tech firm Tata Consultancy Services of India (TCS) to open a office in Buffalo, N.Y. by hoping that it would bring jobs to the area. Clinton later said the deal showed that outsourcing firms could create jobs both in their home countries and in the United States.
As a part of its program to expand its US presence, TCS will provide advanced IT training to new recruits. The training center is aptly named “Chrysalis”, a word signifying the evolution of a larva into a butterfly. Company executives explained that the name alludes to the transformation of bright new talent into advanced IT professionals who would lead the technology industry in the future. The firm said it had already hired 20 new recruits, primarily from western New York, and had plans to triple that number by the middle of next year. But over that same period, Tata sought H-1B visa certifications to import nearly 500 foreign computer programmers and other specialists to upstate New York.
Since 2003,”the reality is that it probably created many more jobs for workers overseas and displaced lots of American workers according to leading news papers.
NRI Sudesh Agnihotra from New York told our representative that NYC residence are very up-set that about 500 foreign computer programmers and other specialists were dumped in their State and they had no gain.
Clinton always said, the United States benefits by admitting high-tech workers from abroad. She backs proposals to increase the number of temporary visas for skilled foreigners.
This is also surprise to learn that when she addresses the union audiences and Democratic crowds, she does not mention her support for expanding foreign-worker visas
Most of the NRI supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton are confused and up set of the out-come of Tata (TCS) deal.
How Hillary can claim to support American workers if she is also helping Indian outsourcing companies and proposing more worker visas.

Obama does nothing but stereotype people. He keeps putting other races down, in hopes that he looks better.
Neither McCain nor Clinton would have gotten away with saying: “the black community” clings to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
As opposed to Medicaid, Food Stamps and Section 8, I’d prefer working, God, guns, trucks and church.
NO Barack Hussein Obama!

Los Angles, July 30, 2007
Gary Singh
Clinton woos the outsourcers feared by U.S. workers
The 2003 announcement had clear benefits for the senator and the company: Tata received good press, and Clinton burnished her credentials as a champion for New York’s depressed upstate region.
But less noticed was how the event signaled that Clinton, who portrays herself as a fighter for American workers, had aligned herself with Indian American business leaders and Indian companies feared by the labor movement.
Now, as Clinton runs for president, that signal is echoing loudly.
Clinton is successfully wooing wealthy Indian Americans, many of them business leaders with close ties to their native country and an interest in protecting outsourcing laws and expanding access to worker visas. Her campaign has held three fundraisers in the Indian American community recently, one of which raised close to $3 million, its sponsor told an Indian news organization.
But in Buffalo, the fruits of the Tata deal have been hard to find. The company, which called the arrangement Clinton’s “brainchild,” says “about 10″ employees work here. Tata says most of the new employees were hired from around Buffalo. It declines to say whether any of the new jobs are held by foreigners, who make up 90% of Tata’s 10,000-employee workforce in the United States….
HILLARY DOES NOT FIGHT FOR AMERICA!

I’m reading all this stuff with Hillary and Tata Consultancy! WHY THE HELL DIDN’T SHE EVER TELL US THIS BEFORE?
PENNSYLVANIA AND INDIANA: YOU NEED TO READ ABOUT THIS!

Jason | Apr 12, 2008 12:43:41 PM
“Oh and by the way, at least Obama realized he made a misstatement, acknowledged it and has tried to clarify.”
Gimme a break. His comments were at a 6 April 2008 dinner. He started backing and filling only after his remarks were revealed. Don’t attribute virtues to Obama that he’s doesn’t possess. You might consider suggesting to his campaign that in the future they strip-search for recording devices all those who attend Obama fundraisers. With supporters like that, who needs political opponents?
Obama could very well be the “dumbest smart person” in the baby boom generation.

tori
What are you talking about? Post a link.

I think that this is the reaction that would have come to anything that Obama said that was even slightly controversial and CNN fanned the flame in an attempt to boost their ratings as well as McCain and Clinton. Clinton more so to throw the heat off her and her husband’s stupid remarks and income..which I’ve noticed NO ONE has even bothered to cover.
While I have and will continue to support Obama I have known from the beginning that he could never win based on his color and the media and the big boys in WA.
America will stay on it’s poor path it had mapped out for it long ago. Big business, media and cheats such as Clinton and the Keeting 5 McCain win. What’s new? Nothing other than a good man has been trashed by this media outlet along with the others for speaking the truth. Good job there Jack….perhaps someday you will do something your kids will be proud of but this instance? Won’t be one of them.

SAM
Do you know how many comments these candidates make in one day? When your job is to talk to folks 24 hours a day, do you realize how easy it is to mis-speak? The difference in this case is that if Hillary had said this, Obama would NEVER had made it an issue. These politicians mis-speak everyday, but Hillary jumps on Obama’s mistake and tries to paint the man as something he clearly is not. Take the Bosnia flap for example. Obama still hasn’t commented on it. He just let it go, an implicit acknowledgement that he believes Hillary’s explanation for the mistake. Another difference between them is that Obama, unlike Clinton, acknowledged that he didn’t use the best choice of words when his mistake was brought to light.

You heard it here from WestCoastMessenger first. I put the elitism message in play weeks ago.
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Obama, just what we need, an elite guy from Harvard!
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Sam,
This story broke yesterday afternoon. By last night, he was addressing it and, horror of horrors, admitting he may have made a mistake in what he said. After 8 years of Bush refusals to admit any errors and Hillary’s flippant statements about her premeditated and repeated Bosnia lies, i personally found it refreshing.
Also for all of the people who are up in arms over this comments, are you all telling me that what he said is not true at all? Please!

KEVIN-
just google Hillary Clinton and Tata Consultacy Services and you’ll bet a slooth of articles, but I’ve copied the text to one article here:
Los Angeles, July 30, 2007
Gary Singh
Clinton woos the outsourcers feared by U.S. workers
The 2003 announcement had clear benefits for the senator and the company: Tata received good press, and Clinton burnished her credentials as a champion for New York’s depressed upstate region.
But less noticed was how the event signaled that Clinton, who portrays herself as a fighter for American workers, had aligned herself with Indian American business leaders and Indian companies feared by the labor movement.
Now, as Clinton runs for president, that signal is echoing loudly.
Clinton is successfully wooing wealthy Indian Americans, many of them business leaders with close ties to their native country and an interest in protecting outsourcing laws and expanding access to worker visas. Her campaign has held three fundraisers in the Indian American community recently, one of which raised close to $3 million, its sponsor told an Indian news organization.
But in Buffalo, the fruits of the Tata deal have been hard to find. The company, which called the arrangement Clinton’s “brainchild,” says “about 10″ employees work here. Tata says most of the new employees were hired from around Buffalo. It declines to say whether any of the new jobs are held by foreigners, who make up 90% of Tata’s 10,000-employee workforce in the United States….
Hope this gives you some insight.

Obama has 5 BILLIONAIRES bundling money for him, read yesterday’s Washington Post article, Obama is getting BIG money from BIG time supporters! There is a huge machine behind Obama, including the media, that wants him elected no matter the cost to the Democratic party. It’s obvious from the way Obama speaks all those far left elite liberals think they are going to improve the Democratic party by purging the middle. There is nothing different about Obama, other than he is coming from a world renown corrupt political environment of Chicago. The news from the Rezko trial is that Gov. Blagdonevich may face indictment. Who knows if this will end up tied to Obama? They have lots of tape recordings of politicians talking to Rezko and Obama told the Chicago papers that he still considers Rezko his friend. Obama looks down on small town white people with contempt, because we cling to our religion – of course it’s okay for Obama to cling to his racist Black Theology Religion, nothing wrong with that – it’s just the small town people who are backwards. Which ethnic group or gender has Obama not offended so far in his campaign?

I believe Mr.Obama is the person best suited to lead this country in the near future. His demeanor is heads and shoulders above Ms.Clinton. She has too much baggage and she is too elder for the job. She is too prone too prone to distractions from Bill and his drive to remain the top dog in the family.

Sam,
Both Obamas’ student loans would have qualified for loan forgiveness under Harvard Law Schools plan. I suspect that the lion’s share of their loans were forgiven.
Note, legal public service is loosely defined and government jobs are included.

I believe Mr.Obama is the person best suited to lead this country in the near future. His demeanor is heads and shoulders above Ms.Clinton. She has too much baggage and she is too elder for the job. She is too prone too prone to distractions from Bill and his drive to remain the top dog in the family.

Staying on track here:
I don’t know who I’m voting for.
However, the gist of Obama’s comments wasn’t inaccurate — all of the disappointments in life (as per simple human/social psychology) can contribute to people over-focusing on things in their life they find comfortable, as well as potentially developing a distrust of outsiders.
The spin being put on this seems to twist Obama’s motivations into some sort of inherent prejudice…? That really doesn’t seem to gel with the rest of his character as expressed over the last number of months.
This whole event is mostly just yet another twist in the “game” — where people have their cronies go through their opponents words with a fine-tooth comb, seeing if anything there can be twisted or exploited in some way to create a political advantage. That’s all it is. And it is disappointing to see people clutching at straws and approaching other Americans with cynicism and distrust rather than with an ear of really trying to hear what they’re saying. I don’t like what that says about our country’s internal attitudes.

And Mr. Obama says,
“And that’s what this campaign is about. We’ve got to get past the divisions”.
Of course, he conveniently leaves out that he’s creating and exacerbating whatever divisions exist in our country.
Obama has worked on playing up racial, gender, gay/straight divisions. Now, he can add another potent division to his list: economic and social divisions.
Obama and Axelrod – the Wizard of Oz – UNMASKED!

Obama is saying that religion is the opiate of the bitter and frustrated masses. (Hmmmm … I think I have heard that somewhere else.)
Is Obama pandering to Socialist voters?

To bad he just blew it he does not understand hope at all now does heI would not call small town America bittergun clinging fearful people most have a faith have kids that have fought wars maybe He, his wife and Wright are but we are not here in middle Pa.

Kevin | Apr 12, 2008 1:19:24 PM
Thanks, but nice try. His comments are a full ramble in front of an audience sympathetic to his plight of having to campaign amoung some of those people in flyover states.
Truth be told, I wouldn’t vote for Hillary to save my life. But I wouldn’t vote for Obama either at the same risk.
I still haven’t got over the level of selfishness and cowardice Obama demonstrated for years sitting in the pews of Jeremiah Wright’s church listening to lies (HIV, crack, atomic weapons), anti-Semitism, hate, and anti-American sentiment. Feel free to rationalize Wright’s positions. I don’t care about them. I care only about Obama remaining silent SOLELY because he needed Wright and his congregants for political support. The lies about HIV, crack, and atomic weapons are intellectually indefensible and do nothing but retard the “conversation about race” Obama is supposedly trying to promote.
Walter Williams had an article about Obama about three weeks ago. He was right. When blacks broke the color line in baseball, they did so with an exceptional player and person in Jackie Robinson. What a man. Obama couldn’t shine his shoes.
Pennsylvania better have a stock of replacement voting machines because I suspect that many levers will be broken as voters vote angrily for Clinton.
Obama needs to hide his feelings better.

Obama is correct – Washington never looks out for these working people. And they should be bitter from that. Clinton’s remarks are simplistic and just politically correct – she’s not thinking deeply here about how to solve problems.

Have you guys been reading about
TATA CONSULTANCY SERVICES and HILLARY?
I HATE THIS WOMAN! SORRY NEW YORK!

Black and White middle class to poor America are both bitter. What about your Chicago church, what are they?

george-
Hillary is not a champion for the American Worker.
She is in bed with INDIA and TATA CONSULTANCY!
She is in bed with COLOMBIA
She is in bed with SAUDI ARABIA
She is in bed with DUBAI
Gee, this woman would get in bed with anyone for money and power!
READ ABOUT TATA CONSULTANCY and HILLARY CLINTON! This sucks!

The problem in this country is no one wants to face reality Obamas statement are 100% right.whether people want to face that or not!
clinton and whats his name? i try not to remember are the ones who are washington politicos who are out of touch with reality!

I can tell you one thing Obama is done in Pa. he is a snob and most in Pa are fox news fans and they have been playing it word for word in the no spin zone.

Jason:
“This story broke yesterday afternoon. By last night, he was addressing it and, horror of horrors, admitting he may have made a mistake in what he said.”
You prove my point. He spoke about the remarks ONLY BECAUSE HE HAD to do so. The guy was in the middle of a hailstorm. This wasn’t a case of waking up on Monday, April 7, and thinking, “You know, what I said didn’t come off right.”
Face it, he was at a function where he never expected to have his words repeated. Like the Jeremiah Wright material, he came forward only when he got outed.
I voted for Bush twice, and I admit it only because the Democrats provided Al Gore and John Kerry as alternatives. Are you kidding me? Democrats haven’t had a decent candidate in the pipeline in years. You’re the party of a collection of special interests.
I’m investing in popcorn futures because the Democratic primary season is turning into great drama. Have a nice Democratic convention.

How can he be the best choice he’s saying things like “thats a cell phone vibrating in my pocket lady- didn’t want you to think I was getting fresh with you ” hard on jokes on the trail are not presidential and since when does it vibrate- I doubt the lady was even confused- thought it just became hard- he’s still young and evolving come back in 8 years!!@!

You know why he spoke like that. No help from speech writer and no help from teleprompter. This shows his judgment. last chance for obama supporters to change side

Stacy,
Well there you go again. I’m waiting to hear you defend Obama. I’m not hearing a defense of Obama coming from you, only an attack on Hillary. Hillary didn’t make the stupid remarks, Obama did.
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Perhaps what Obama said is indefensible!
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Stacy,
I didn’t hear Obama make any remarks about Tata Consultancy. I only heard him talking about people who sound like his enemy, those bitter little people in small town America. Perhaps Obama can lead a disarmament campaign, using his superior speaking skills.
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Finally, Obama’s here, you can lay down your weapons!
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Obama “gets it” He sees the sleeping giant of our country’s discontent..our anger, our bitterness.. when our good factory jobs can get shipped overseas in the bat of an eye, when my pension disappears, when I lose healthcare…I get angry, no I gets bitter.Thank You Obama, you have named the feeling…You get it..you really do…you see a window into the truth…sometimes others may not see that you mean no harm by speaking the truth…For me their was no offense taken what-so-ever. You saw the elephant in the living room, our despair…it is real, it is there…just waiting for it to be given voice…you have my vote Obama…I will not vote for Hillary Clinton, who was only against NAFTA because it benefited her politically. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton whose own husband…and ex-president who profited by trying to promote a trade deal with Columbian that Clinton said she was against..sorry I dont by that…
Go Obama
Win PA !

Susan
You are confusing hope with reality. The reality is that Obama stirs up dust but never wipes it up. He talks a lot but presents no specific solutions to anyone. Listen closely. Do you ever hear a solution? (I thought not)

I don’t think that the substance of his comments are incorrect – people in small towns have been passed by in the Clinton and Bush years. That he can admit that he makes a mistake is a credit not a flaw. And that he makes mistakes? Well, that should only bother those who thought he was a deity.
I’ve got news for all of you – the rich are in charge of this country. And they are getting richer. Which of these candidates feels the plight of the poor? None. Tell me who drinks from the same well as the middle class?

rs
actually Obama had a total of one bill passed during the 109th and 110th senate. It was a bill to lend aid to the Congo.
That, alas, is his resume.

Nice try, but the voters aren’t going to fall for it. Not this time.
Obama ’08

The Obama’s stated on their tax returns that they made over $200,000 almost immediately after graduating from college and complained that sending their children to a $20,000 summer camp was too expensive. As a hard working democrat, I would like to face their financial troubles! Obama is a liberal elitist. His view of the U.S is the arriana huffington view (the far left of the party), that the reason people go to church, go hunting, oppose illegal immigration, is because something is wrong with them. This democrat and alot of blue collar democrats are going to vote for MCain! I hope Hillary kicks his behind in PA!

@Aston:
No disrespect, but I don’t expect any politician to not be hypocritical at times. All three candidates are such. To me this is another round in “gotcha” politics. The Bosnia stuff is in the same league.
In this country we sometimes seem to have a problem of putting our candidates on pedestals; then we enjoy knocking them off, cutting them down to size and then ridiculing them for not accomplishing anything in public office.
How about, for a change, we all assume these candidates are flawed human beings. Maybe if we talked about solutions for problems, rather than ad hominem attacks, we would be in a much better position.

Thanks S: that is some kind of resume! Why didn’t the DNC run Harold Ford Jr. if they wanted to run the “first” African American against Hillary to beat her? Why the DNC decided it was smart politics to put two “firsts” up against each other in the first place baffles me, but I am sure it has a lot to do with their not wanting to answer to a woman, especially “that woman”.

OBAMA DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORKING-CLASS AMERICANS! HE HAS LIVED A PRIVILEDGED LIFE. HE CONTINUES TO TELL LIES!
WE DON’T NEED A PRESIDENT WHO TALKS DOWN TO US.
WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO WILL STAND UP FOR US.
HILLARY / EDWARDS 2008!

Obama committed one of the cardinal sins in politics – he told the truth in public. In accordance with the principle, “no good deed goes unpunished”, he will pay a political price for his sin, but by election time, he will probably have learned to avoid offending an important constituency by being too honest. To be candid, though, his serious mistake in this instance was not his truthfulness, but the lack of a need for some truths when silence would have served him better. Oh well, nobody’s perfect.
Fred Moolten

S-
Actually the damage was done when the Michigan Gov. agreed to break the rules…and all candidates running for president signed off to not include the votes…get this…INCLUDING HILLARY CLINTON!
The only reason she wants them to count now is because she’s a spoiled, bratty loser!
GET IT?

To Aston and all these other ProClintonians…
The more I read your arguments and the amplification you lend to her spin I become increasingly convinced that there are people in this country who do not want change for the better even though their lives hang on the precipice and they are suffering and smiling.The bigger problem is that they are working hard to pull everyone else down with them.Once again,for clarity,Obama said the economic woes of small town America have turned on deaf ears for as long as we can remember.The people therefore have found solace in guns (for protection) and their faith.Hence,someone needs to start paying attention to their economic needs.Hilary Clinton’s spin is an attempt by the candidate who taken money from lobbyists and voted in congress on the side of credit companies to take away fundamental rights from ordinary citizens,to make Obama sound ‘politically incorrect’ and she’s never been good at it. Who’s fooling who? You can spin all you want.The people have spoken and will speak again and again.

With American flags flanking both sides of her, Senator Clinton looked squarely at her audience and declared:
“I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”
The Hillary campaign people say that the Senator “misspoke” when she described the time she, as a first lady, landed in Bosnia under sniper fire. Misspoke? That’s a very polite way of saying that she lied. WHAT? HILLARY LIED? HOW SHOCKING?
This lie will go down in history along side of her husband’s “I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”
She then gave more ammunition to her competition by saying that this was the first time in twelve years that she misspoke. Another great big lie. LIAR. LIAR. PANTSUIT ON FIRE.
So what else is new? She lied in her book, Living History. She lied in several speeches. She lied in TV interviews. Volumes have been written about her lies. She lies when she doesn’t have to. Why is it necessary for her to tell these lies? Doesn’t she realize that everything she does and says is taped and saved? She must know that somewhere down the line someone will expose those lies and every time a lie is uncovered it reminds people of so many of her other lies. And you thought we forgot that she lied about Chelsea jogging on 9/11 and she lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary.
Right now there are Hillary supporters reading this that are furious with me because I use the word ‘lie’ over and over. They would much prefer that I tone it down by using the lingo ‘misspoke’ or ‘fabricate’ or ‘credibility problem’. Sorry but Hillary is a LIAR and LIARS tell lies!….

Hillary Clinton give me a break. Is this the same Hillary who turn up her nose at the state of mississippi? Is this the same Hillary who didnt think certain states were important enough when the campaign began to build an organization to communicate to the voters of those states? Is this the same Hillary who turned her back on the people of Arkansa to move to New York to plot her way back to the White House from a higher media profile state? Elitist, you are the epitome of the word. I will also add opportunist and disingenuous to describe you.
Telling lies (Bosnia) and doing anything (crying) to get back to the white house, even destroying the democratic party for your personal power ambitions. Get a grip.

The Obamatons are SPINNING Obama’s latest gaffe so hard they are going to SPIN the Earth out of orbit!!!
Anyway has anyone noticed that the Obamatons are screaming “he told the truth” but to who??? Rich liberals in San Francisco. LOL!!!! So Obama didn’t say any of his real thoughts to all the people he has met in the small towns of America pandering for votes but when he thought he was behind closed doors he said “the truth?” (sarcasm)
Obama is a fraud. Vote for anybody but Obama!!!

I am so sick of him always saying, “that’s not what he meant.” That sure wouldn’t fly if Hillary said it! It seems to get him off the hook every single time, people swallow his excuses hook, line and sinker. He’s looking out for his Wright congregation and fellow super liberals, he doesn’t care about those of us blue collar workers who still have traditional values. He just comes off as a bad actor anymore.

I think Hillary is, as usual in these situations, in great danger of overplaying her hand here. You can sense she can barely contain her glee at having a “gaffe” to jump on. Most people can see right through the political posturing. Hillary’s political remarks are so scripted, cynical and, yes, demeaning. She must think we’re all idiots. I will vote against her simply because I can’t bear being talked down to in that way for the next 4 or 8 years.

Ravi: The Hillary Sniper Fire story will not distract from the REAL OBAMA STORY – Elite Harvard Grad knows what’s best for small town Americans, we are just too stupid to see the messiah standing before us ready to rescue us from all our small town “beliefs” and “constitutional rights”. I suppose you think it’s a good thing the elite, far left wine drinking San Francisco millionaires and billionaires backing Obama know what’s best for us too. Raise our taxes and give them more tax breaks so they get richer!!!

Barack Obama,
You are not an elitist. You’ve known about those words for the last 20 hours. Those words don’t represent you and your beliefs. You are willing to renounce your words, but you stand by yourself, because you know that during those 20 hours, well, you’ve been a good man.
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Barack, 20 years with Wright, 20 hours with just words!
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The republican hate machine have so much fodder to use against Obama they can hardly wait to start loading.
That will make it impossible for him to win in november.He should consider dropping out now so that the democrats can unite behind Hillary and have a chance to win the general election.

Hillary has turned out to be such an incredible phony political hack that I never would have believed it ten years ago. It’s hilarious to hear her say these things from her high horse with a straight face. Any American who falls for the steaming bowl of crap she’s selling deserves all the hardship and heartache they have coming. And you know what? I’m a regular working class American, and yes, I AM bitter about the way our so-called leaders have sold us and our children’s futures down the river.

I can tell you from vast experience that people in PA are Bitter and that I would expect that others in this Country are too.
In my previous job I was one of two Officials in Aviation Funding in Pa and traveled to all 147, at that time, publicly operated Airports in PA. I held open to the Public meetings and what I heard was rarely about just Aviation. It was about Government – Local, State and Federal. The massive bitterness, shown and highly expressed, was overwhelming. Obama was clearly listening. The McCain/Clinton people first hit Obama and his supporters with the Hope and Just Words high minded complaint, and now they hit him with the Bitterness what Bitterness slap. What a joke. Have they ever really talked to the public. Just what do you think that’s being expressed out there, that we want Bush/Clinton/Bush Clinton or McCain and more of the same with no progress on not just the local/home issues but nothing at all on Social Security/Medical Costs/Global Warming/& the Iraq War ?

what’s “demeaning” is that Hillary Clinton thinks people are stupid -
that she will become president and the clock will go back to before 9/11, to before the internet boom and to before she was an exceptionally wealthy out of touch washington insider
when the Clinton campaign is sending around talking points and literature from the Republican National Commitee and John McCain’s campaign you know this democratic nominating contest has gone on far too long –
“What’s the Matter with Kansas?” by Thomas Frank questioned why citizens constantly vote against their own best interests – and that is exactly what Sen Obama was saying –
What;’s the Matter with America?
The Ciintons and the McCain are in the top 1% of wealth in this country; the Clintons are the champions of free trade, McCain believes in all those tax cuts for the wealthy and the media is going to allow them to portray Obama as an “elitist”??
What the matter with this country—

Yea – America is wonderful especially when bloggers leave out the fact that michelle obama complained about sending her kids to a private camp that cost $20,000!
Hillary wasn’t speaking about his elitism in terms of money it’s his attitude she’s speaking of and quite frankly it stinks when it comes to talking about america in positive terms. guess this is the “new” “change” politics – that’s how you win elections – tell people what’s wrong in their lives and how they feel (whether it’s true or not) and then tell them whose fault it is for there plight. Sounds like the script from the american president film. I’m a typical white person who lives in a small PA towm and we know the smell of bs when we smell it and we know the sound of bs when we hear it. When i think of Barry O – i think of his Global Poverty Bill that he authored and the trillion $ from taxpayers that we’ll pay to give to impoverished nations in Africa. Perhaps instead of characterizing all people in a certain way as he has a tendency to do he should address why he would author this Bill and not one that addressed the needs of us bitter people! He admitted himself in the last debate that it’s to a certain extent about ego and he is an elitist and worse – he’s a socialist! People do go to church for other reasons then having it bad, but maybe this is a throwback to his days spent in the pews of Rev Wright’s church. It seems he learned those lessons well. Blame it on someone else and then put them down if they call you out on it. I’m sick of him and will vote McCain if he’s the demo nominee!

David
How does Hillary’s faults relate to Obama? Or you for him or against Clinton? Please answer with some solid reasons that you infer that Obama has the credentials to become president. Not just on his promise of hope.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTED NAFTA
HILLARY AND BILL PROFITS FINANCIALLY FROM COLUMBIAN TRADE DEALS WHICH SHE SUPPOSEDLY OPPOSES. THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES PA VOTERS SHOULD CONSIDER.
OBAMA 08!
YES WE CAN!

DREW: FYI. When the Clintons left Arkansas, it was one of the poorest states in the country and was ranked as one of the lowest (worst) in public education. The biggest industry was Tyson chicken which denied disability payments to workers who got carpel tunnel syndrome from gutting chickens. I didn’t see the Clinton’s doing anything to get those people relief.
So say again, what did Hillary and Bill do that was so great in Arkansas? (Other than Bill’s use of the State Police to “secure him” women to “hit” on?)

It is really sad that when the Obamobots can’t defend what he says, you attempt to change the narrative to what he was saying. He is not in touch with middle America, he is an elitist, and you are out of touch if you cannot see that this was a putdown by Obama.

S: Solutions? You think that Hillary has solutions? Healthcare anyone? Her healthcare will never work because it is mandated and she will not get the support she needs. It’s easy when you are trying to run for an office to “promise” that billions of dollars will be spent to do this or that. It is an entirely different story when you are sitting in office.
The solution in Washington is to stop all the BS, start listening to the people and work together to find solutions because obviously the “promise of solutions” that has been uttered by every politician running in the past 50 years DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE. Promises are cheap. I want someone who can learn the art of compromise, who can talk to others and respect a differing opinion THEN turn around a make a plan.
Washington has become a place where everybody is so busy trying to keep their job, they don’t do their job. The politicians use it as a gateway to garner power and money and they are so beholden to others that they are hamstringed from dong what is good for the American public.
I am suspect of any “promised solution” that is put forth in a campaign.

cindy
Stop blathering and re-read my post. I thought it was short enough to be understood by people with a modest education.
I said Obama has no solutions. How you flipped out into deep space with a Hillary diatribe defies imagination.
Try to stick with the subject.

Well. The word might not be proper. But in fact not a big deal – looks like Media feels boring along election at this time and tried to catch whatever word possible to twist, and to help Hillary – the best Twister.
But the reality is and it is a-b-c of Economics, that any stagnation, depression, unemployment ALWAYS increases crime level, anger, frustration and personal depression, that causes other social troubles. We all can see that. We all know exactly well, where they are , those parts of cities and small towns, where you better not to stop your car, if you drive occasionally there. We DO know those places .
(Maybe Mrs Clinton does not, being busy with her fancy party with English singer(no more Americans for her? Looks like)) and her pockets full of tax-free personal donations to herself.
So if she does NOT know that Law of economics about the reason of crime increase , then how can she pretend to operate Country’s economy without this basic knowledge?
No way she can , along with a mess to build a team, pay bills and calculate the math of expenses and math of votes as well). Same Mr. McCain, who was just happy to play with the word. Fine. How about to bring Cindy’s business to those small towns to Make beer, not just to sell? Then You will be “in touch”, Mr. McCain. Otherwise, better to take care of Your own business.
And do not send that word to “blue-color” votes. Those, who were mentioned, they sure do NOT have any color. So, Media, please, do no mess with that.
Let’s honestly look into reality: there are millions of people on the bottom of this society Right Now. They may vote. They might not. But they are still there ( and we Do Know the addresses – they all surrounded with Cash Advance Offices -24/7 ,but not government care or concern. ). If Government “white –colors” would just close eyes and we along with them – the amount of bitters will grow and grow.
Ma-am , do You care?
Looks like all that Three Clintons care about is – to get the power to fool all – colors states.
That’s what we wanT????

Now Hillary is playing Mellencamp. What happened to that Celine Dion song she rolled out in that big spoof on the Sopranos finale with her and Bill? You remember back when she was “inevitable.” HRC is the last person on to be calling ANYONE an elitist.
BTW- Amen plainbrown1

Clinton is a liar period, and will do or say anything for personal power.

this is a sting in many many many things that Obama has said, that makes it obvious he isn’t prepared to be president. he’s a freshman, with some learning to do.

Why does Obama keep stereotyping Americans?!!! You would think he would be the one not to do that. He has seriously bummed allot of Americans out.

I hope that Obama will take this opportunity to explain that our faith is what helps us overcome the bitterness caused by life (loss of jobs and income, etc). Bitterness doesn’t cause us to have faith – God wants to help us overcome bitterness through our faith. Love of God (and others)overcomes bitterness so that even though the source of the bitterness remains in our lives, it doesn’t have to rule our lives. That is what Obama meant, clearly.

The truth is plain and simple. Obama is a gifted orator with good speeches( thanks Mr. Deval Patrick). His problem is that: he cannot be that larger than life personality he wants to. He was lucky so many times in his political life and still expects the free ride to continue. This is not going to happen. Let’s face it. Even if the Democrats shot themselves in their feet handing the nomination to Obama, the Republicans are not going to leave Obama unchallenged. I can imagine a bunch of 527s groups attacking Obama with his own words and missteps( Wright, the “bitter thing”, NAFTA and Iraq lies for voters). It’s time to wake up and nominate the only democrat that can stand up against Republicans: Hillary Clinton. Like her or not is our sollution to get White House in 2008. Don’t dream it’s over.

So, people are HAPPY to watch their jobs being shipped to China? If McCain thinks that, then he is worse than out of touch. He is OUT TO LUNCH!

To even suggest that an awkwardly-worded, out-of-context statement made in a PRIVATE conversation is an “important gaffe” is utter nonsense.
Obama is right. People are mad as heck out there. They don’t trust Washington on economic issues. So, they vote based on “God, guns and gays” and vent their frustration at illegal aliens (with some justification).
Obama says we can do better. He says Washington can work for the interests of Americans again.
I agree

Yes, I am bitter. When I see what has happened to this country under Bush, I am, indeed bitter and angry. I am bitter to see the ongoing assault on the middle class. I am angry about seeing $16 billion per month and the lives of so many men and women wasted on a nonsense war. I am bitter about the loss of good jobs and their replacement with Wal-Mart jobs.
It is high time we took our country back from the interests that would plunder it. It is high time we stopped this reckless and wasteful war and pledged to start no more like it.
Foreign adventurism has destroyed more than one great power in history. Let’s not sit back and watch the U.S. go the way of the British Empire. China is waiting in the wings to take our place as the next great super power. And none of us would want to live in a world dominated by China.

I honestly think Obama does not have the capacity and political experience to get America out of this mess. He doesn’t even think Al-Qada is in Iraq; sounds a bit scary don’t ya think?? I don’t want a leader who doesn’t have much solid ground on anything. He even admitted what he said was wrong so I don’t know why some are saying Hillary blew this out of context; proof is in the pudding people.

Urroche, your husband made more money 10 years ago because Bill Clinton was president. The 90s was awesome economically because of the Clintons. So what is the problem with having it great like the 90s. The Clintons got many out of projects and passed bills through the legislation for job programs. Do you a loss of memory??

Obama spoke the truth, even if it’s a tough truth. I was bitter when I lost my job through no fault of my own. Hillary is about as sincere as an entertainer who stands up on a stage and says “You are all wonderful. I love you all” so we all applaud ourselves, when all that entertainer knows about us – or cares to know about us – is we bought tickets. It makes us love ourselves, if we’re weak minded, but it isn’t truth.

Many lost the jobs because of Bush not NAFTA. If NAFTA was the case then we would have been in this situation when Bill was in office. Many attack Hillary, but it is ok for Obama to make racial comments, support radical churches and points of views, and has the lack of any brain cells with regards to foreign policy. If he beats Hillary then I am voting for McCain. Shame on many to attack Hillary simply because they don’t like her personality. Issues need to super cede that. This is not American Idol; we talking about our lives here.

I am sure we all have had a scandal or two. No such thing as a ”clean” individual. I am sure you have dirty laundry…loads of them…

Obama, how many more times are you going to shoot yourself in the foot? YOu have the momentum, all the pundits hailing your victory and tons of cash, yet you feel like analyzing the voters of your opponent. Let your staffers analyze the voting habits of rural and southern voter and you retrn to making pretty speeches and don’t shoot yourself in the foot again.

Who in the heck is Hillary Clinton
Mellencamp?

Just saw two bumper stickers yesterday. One said Women for Obama 08 and one said Republican for Obama 08. Keep grabbing at the air Hillary. You are so desperate and it’s really pathetic.
Here is the entire statement: “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not,” he said.
“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” he also said.
Why are people getting mad at the truth?
Lets look at the real issues here people. Will you voting for Hillary whose husband helped to create this NAFTA thing that caused people to lose their jobs help get your jobs back? Will John McCain help you? LOL!!!! That one is really funny!!!
You people in America who don’t have jobs, healthcare, education, etc. better really look at what’s going on and stop paying attention to this stupid side show by John McCain and Hillary Clinton
OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack Smith – Hillary sees a world of huge dollar signs where she is at the helm. She is a woman and a mother who brought her daughter into a war zone under sniper fire. She is a woman who either does not speak to her husband or share a bed with him while he rakes in close to $1 Million dollars giving speeches about the benefits of a Columbia Free Trade Deal while she says she does not agree. She can not continue to have it both ways. You bet your bottom dollar that HRC knows that Billy Boy is out peddling influence for a deal that she says “she doesn’t support”. We are talking about “bitter” and “guns” when the Clintons are out to continue to promote self interest over the interest of Americans. This is straight up CRAZY. Unless of course you believe in your heart of hearts that Hillary has not a clue where her husband is selling his words. and perhaps that is even a scarier notion. If she is completely unaware of her own husbands business dealings how in the world is she going to be aware of all that happens in this country and the world. Bitter..shmitter…

Give me a break. Hillary is so desperate that she has to distort what Obama said because she has nothing else to “cling” to in her failed campaign for the office she thought should have been handed to her on a silver platter. What in the hell is James Carville, a Clinton partisan, doing on commenting on the flap on Meet the Press? Russert should be ashamed of himself.

Obama is going to have a rough time digging himself out of this one because he actually voiced the way he really feels. It is not so much the comment about people being bitter–it is more the comment that people “cling” to an assortment of things he lumped together–guns, religion, antipathy toward those who are different–in frustration.
Once again, he lumps us together and judges our behaviors and beliefs as somehow inferior to his own. We are “typical” we are “bitter.”

Imagine obama as President: he says something he “regrets” again—–only THIS time he had said something about a foreign “enemy country” that could cause the start of another war.
Do we Americans actually WANT such a man as President, who shoots his mouth off in such an egotistical & pious manner, without even thinking of the consequences of what the POWER of HIS NEGATIVE WORDS can DO? This shows where obama’s REAL train of thinking is—-THIS IS A GLIMPSE OF THE REAL BARACK OBAMA—-when he talks off the top in such a flippent manner—-yes, THIS statement he made proves that he is a liar about wanting to “UNITE PEOPLE”.
It proves that he is trying to “be all things to all people”—-and that his loyalties lie with the WEALTHY, ELITE Democrats. obama cares NOTHING about the struggling people in the Midwest. He is so OUT OF TOUCH with our struggles, because he is busy clamoring for that wealthy, Ultra-Liberal Democratic campaign money. obama THINKS that he can buy the Nomination and the Presidency. Well, the American Middle-Class is gonna show who REALLY weilds the power of the vote in the next several weeks…….keep your eyes on the polls, folks:

American9 said: Right on Dennis,
I am glad to see someone on this blog that have common sense, and not just a fearful Republican.
Obama for President.
Stick to the issues not your frail emotions.
Thank you American9. I’m glad to see that someone else agrees that issues, and dealing with these issues is what matters? When emotions get involved judgment gets VERY CLOUDED. That is a VERY DANGEROUS THING!!!

I am most amused at the frantic, last gasp efforts of the Clinton Campaign to try anything to stay in this race. How much time have we wasted on the “elite comment” now?
Seriously, while Obama could have worded his statement a little better, doesn’t anyone with a bit of intelligence know what he meant? Do we have to have politicians and talking TV heads twist it out of proportion to explain it to the masses?

FACE IT!
Obama is a cold, calculating sweet talking politician!
To win the election for state senator of Illinois , he made sure that his opponents were handily eliminated… because he knew he’d never win in any other way!
To win the election for the US Senate, Obama played the same dirty game; only the names of the characters were changed in regard to the people “done in”.
This is Not a “made up” story (though it certainly reads like one). Look it up in the Chicago Tribune if you dare…..in fact, you SHOULD!
The election of 2008 is NOT a GAME!
The United States is in the throes of a deep recession.
People cannot afford to pay their mortgages, and thousands of homes are lost every day.
People are losing their jobs and their medical benefits…. and their pride.
Fifty percent of our teen agers are leaving school before they graduate.
We are fighting a war that seems to have no end.
The ideas emanating from Baracka’s mouth when viable… have already been offered by Hillary.
He has generated one of the dirtiest campaigns I have every seen and is out once again to destroy his competition in any sneaky dirty underhanded way he can..
But he’s just the bandleader; the posters and trolls like you do most of the heavy lifting.
The mud and slander he slings at Hillary is either forty years old or something for which she bears no responsibility.
BUT
Do you really think that the masses of citizens in this country WANT to be led by a chief whose very patriotism is questionable?
Do you honestly feel that this newby can take on the tremendous burden of woes currently facing our nation… with Michelle at his side and Mr. Wright at his back, and with other, even more questionable characters at his table?
This is not about race, although he would like us to think that it is; we have already had a black president and didn’t even realize it!
( Harding didn’t play the race card.)
In any case, it’s your vote to make.
But when you do, be very very careful.
As for me, I’ll take Clinton!

Tonight’s CNN debates did reveal details about both candidates with the help of the mediators. For example, Campbell Brown assisted Sen. Barack Obama at least twice by providing partial answers when the Senator did not have knowledge about the question asked. By the end of the night, in my view, it seemed to me that Campbell moved her chair at least 6-12 inches closer to her idol the Senator from Illinois. Campbell also looked all night at the Senator from Illinois with starry eyed commentator.
One area that I learned from the Senator from Illinois that he made his wealth after getting out of college working for the poor. I guess some of us took the wrong career path by not helping the poor that would have given me the ability to purchase a $1.65 million dollar home with a $300,000 break. The Senator from Illinois omitted his work that he did along the way that includes slumlord Tony Rezko and known terrorist like Rashid Khalidi. Also, along the way, Sen. Hillary Clinton did not attack the Senator from Illinois and he attacked her twice. Once with the help of commentator Campbell Brown that stated that Sen. Clinton attacked him when discussing his small town comment. Sen. Clinton said that it was up to Sen. Obama to answer this question for himself versus her answering the question for him.
At the end of the night, I don’t think any American was surprised that the political experts gave the Senator from Illinois higher ratings. The fact the Sen. Clinton gave detailed and insightful answers to hard questions, the Senator from Illinois was asked simple almost yes and not type questions. In the end, the Senator from Illinois continued his refusal to apologize about his small town comment instead saying, ” I didn’t say it as well as I should have”. I guess there is a better way of saying that small town Americans are bitter and racist as Sen. Obama said at his fundraiser. In the end, American’s know less about the Senator from Illinois than they knew about him prior to this forum.

My previous post was in answer to Dr Hubert’s
fenrisulfr, Isn’t it a more than a little “elitist” of you to presume to tell Obama supporters what to think about the candidate they support?
Oh yeah and comparing Obama to Hitler, really mature…

The question of Obamas “elitism” cannot be addressed by answering the question of whether folks in PA are “bitter” or not “bitter. Some are (and some aren’t) like everywhere else.
It also cannot be addressed by answering the question(s) of whether some people turn to religion or hunting to comfort them in hard times or whether they blame immigrants, “people unlike them” or Nafta for their plight when they have lost jobs and are suffering economic hardship
Obviously, all of these coping mechanisms are possible when people are under stress- but there is reason to question the validity of Obamas condescending explanation for their coping this way- which is that they blame foreigners, immigrants or Nafta to “explain their frustration only because they are incapable of seeing the real culprit- (which, to Obamas way of thinking is the Washington-that- is)
I think it is entirely possible for people to feel upset with their Government’s inaction and, at the same time, feel upset with illegal immigrnats who are taking their jobs and upset with legislation that may be contributing to their job loss.
Obamas attempt to attribute rural pennsylvanians feelings and behavior to ONE underlying cause (the failure of existing Gov’t to address their problems) is obviously self-serving since, if true (and if he could only convince rural pennsylvanians of the accuracy of his hypothesis)– they would vote for him!
Obama’s elitism, however, is most clearly demonstrated- not by the truth or untruth of his statements about rural pennsylvanians -but by his pseudo-intellectual analysis of them (as if he was an anthropologist explaining the behavior of primitive tribes!
THAT was arrogant (and elitist) since he has no training in such motivational assesment and for him to pontificate about people he barely knows for the delectation of his latte liberal supporters in California demonstrates insensivity to the feelings of the very people he professes to understand better than they do themselves.

We in PA let Obama know that he can’t put us down and still expect us to vote for him.
This guy is a phony. He is bluffing his way through and all the stupid people are buying his crap.