Irony, Thy Name Is Arianna
How did an Obama supporter named Mayhill Fowler, writing for free of The Huffington Post — a website the Clinton campaign, fairly or not, considers virulently pro-Obama (it’s where 0bama first responded to the Rev. Wright controversy, in an exclusive posting) — end up causing her chosen candidate untold grief by breaking the "bitter-cling" story?
Pajamas Media’s Bill Bradley has an interesting look, "Deep Inside ‘Bittergate,’" which features an interview with the incomparable Arianna Huffington herself.
“It’s stunning,” Huffington tells Bradley, “the way the Clinton campaign has completely distorted the meaning of what he said. It’s stunning Hillary chose to confirm every right-wing demagogic characteristic about her own party.”
Worth a read.
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It’s stunning how Arianna and Mr. Hope have to blame everyone else for his self-inflicted wounds. Tsk-tsk-tsk.
Posted by: Vickie | April 15, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Mayhill Fowler is NOT an Obama supporter. She donated to his campaign to gain access to events such as the one is San Francisco….most telling is that the fact that she has made donations to the campaign of Fred Thompson…and has described Obama as “vain” and “condescending” on numerous times.
Posted by: Lily | April 15, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Way to deflect and spin this as Hillary’s fault, once again. There would be no spin if Obama would not say such things. Really, it’s not rocket science. If you can’t say anything nice…
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
This is exactly what the far-right wing has done. According to “middle America” Rush Limbaugh is like them. Never mind that Rush Limbaugh makes over $25 million a year (just on his contract w/ Clear Channel). This is what they have done to the people. They told us that Bush was someone we could have a beer with. Well, as Claire McCaskill said, that beer has been very expensive for the country. Shame on Hillary for parroting these right-wing talking points. Shame on her.
Posted by: David | April 15, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Obama has no one else to blame but himself for his candid comments in front of rich folks behind closed doors. His own words speak volumes about what an elitist he is and what he really thinks about rural Pennsylvanians. Don’t blame Hillary for pointing it out. If Hillary had said the same thing to a bunch of millionaires in San Francisco, Arianna would have absolutely no hesitation calling her on it.
Posted by: Joseph | April 15, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
No fault Obama insurance most men carry this insurance.And its just stunning to hear him make fun of most Americans.
Posted by: Bishop | April 15, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Obama never apoligized for his comment. He is saying what he said is correct. What a arrogant guy, we do not want another Bush who cannot change.
Hillary 08
Posted by: Paul | April 15, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
The fact that the Huffington Post DIDN’T see the potential in the “Bitter” statements shows the disconnect between them and “common” people.
Posted by: JR | April 15, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
The one problem with this story- and almost every story on this topic- is that Obama has gained in the polls since this all occurred; he hasn’t fallen. It makes all the people creating the dust up look pretty silly. Sorry, Hillary- another failed Rovian attack.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | April 15, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
How sad…the Obama campaign and its supporters are spinning, spinning, spinning…they must be dizzy!! Yes, I say things sometimes that come out wrong, BUT I AM NOT RUNNING FOR POTUS!!! If Obama can’t keep his mouth and sentiments in check (or those of his nasty wife), and somehow becomes President, are we going to be subjected to constant cases of W.O.R.M.?? (What Obama Really Meant). I don’t want to hear him constantly backpeddling and explaining. That’s just downright embarrassing.
Posted by: Nick | April 15, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
That article makes him sound even more elitist. There is something about the mental image of Arianna wrapped in a towel on David Geffen’s yacht in Tahiti (Does it get more elitist?) making an airheaded decision to off an article in which her candidate says he doesn’t need anyone with foreign policy experience in favor of one that labels a state as full of bitter yokels.
Wow! The insensitivity and outright airheadedness of all of that takes my breath away. With those kinds of rich supporters, maybe he should try apologizing to Pennsylvanians for his non-grassroots surrogates as ‘out of touch’.
Senator, this is not a pick up game of hoops. This is the NBA finals. You really need to get rid of the amateur socialite honkies on your team before they lose this game for you by giving up foul shots to the other team
Posted by: len | April 15, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I don’t think the Huffingtonpost is pro-Obama, but I also dont’ think Obama’s comments were wrong at all. Personally, I’m a bit bitter myself and I do cling to my family and my religion and things I can count on right now. It seems like the government doesn’t care about me or, even worse, it just makes things harder for me! I can’t say that we cling to guns, but we have them AND we STRONGLY support Barack Obama for President. Go Barack! Tell it like it is. Do not pander to us. Understand us and then do what you can to help us or get government out of our way.
Obama 2008!
Posted by: Marilyn | April 15, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
“Taking money from people who protested the Marines,” And lets parse out McCain’s campaign donations which include corrupt fat cats of every hue. Just wait until the general election, 527s like moveon etc are going to stream roll over your candidate and you won’t know what hit you.
Democrats will have to realize that keep the election position isn’t going to work. There so much dirt on McCain, it just a matter of using it.
Posted by: Shawn | April 15, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Where are Obama’s 1997-1999 tax returns? Why hasn’t he released them yet? Is he afraid that his connections to Rezko and Iraqi billionaire Auchi will become more obvious and cause bitterness among his supporters?
Posted by: Joseph | April 15, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Obama is unelectable. His supporters are in full force today trying to convince us he is not by spinning, spinning, spinning.
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
The thing I cannot understand is that as an NRA member from a small town in Texas and a believer in a higher being that doesn’t require me to assault, kill or maim others why I’m not insulted by this elitism. I’m not. He’s right I am bitter and I have a right to be. Whether Obama will fix it is another story for the general election. If the truth be told (pun intended) I’d rather have someone running against McCain that tells the truth and deals with the consequences rather than continually say they “misspoke” and assumes they should get a free pass.
In my view this whole thing is “Pot? The Kettle is on line one and saying you’re an elitist.” In my mind elitism can be proven by getting a free pass using such legal language as “It depends on what your interpretation of what ‘it’ is.” Try that little bit of common man logic in traffic court and see how far it gets you, the non-bitter person.
Posted by: Alex, from Texas | April 15, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Mr. Obama swiftboated himself.
Now, you can’t blame that on anyone else, Arianna.
Posted by: bbln | April 15, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Anybody who reads Huffpo knows Mayhill is not an Obama supporter. She always trashes him in her columns.
Posted by: Yup | April 15, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
It’s stunning how simple minded Arianna Huffington seems to believe the public is in that they can’t come to their own conclusions, without the assistance of Clinton, themselves. Just Stunning!
Wow, One elitist sticking up for another elitist. Stunning.
Posted by: alpaig | April 15, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Where are Hillary Clinton’s Tax returns for this year! She’s filed an extension. Why? She said she’d have all her tax returns public by April 15. No wonder the Republicans desperately want Hillary as their opponent for November.
Posted by: Shawn | April 15, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
PA had similar polls such as Kentucky
Look at the PA polls nows
When Obama campiagn in states the margins close in
Posted by: Vanessa | April 15, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Correction: zombietime.com
“It would certainly be more interesting to hear the story from Fowler (see junehill.blogspot.com, and presumably she’s also involved in the fantastic zombietime.com coverage) than more-or-less from Huffington (whose site was once as overboard for Clinton as it is now for Obama).”
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“I wonder what is more there that we don’t know.”
Umm… the words that we’ve all heard. Read the article again, the blogger ran a peice about Obama’s running-mate comments, and told her boss she had other material from the event. That other material turned out to be the infamous bitter quotes that she published on Friday.
With reading comprehension like this, it explains a lot about how you Hilcats have misunderstood Obama’s comments.
Posted by: fontapa | April 15, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
hey Shawn!
Sen. Obama said the American people “deserve to know where you get your income from,” stressing the need for “full transparency” and bragging that his campaign has “set the bar.”
Well, Hillary released tax returns earlier this month and is now the only candidate in this race who has made thirty years worth of tax returns public.
But despite his rhetoric, Sen. Obama doesn’t abide by the standards he sets for others.
Sen. Obama has refused to release his tax returns for 1997, 1998 and 1999, even though he was in public life as a state senator during those years. During this period of time, Sen. Obama was accepting contributions from special interest lobbyists, PACs and even directly from corporations…Whether it’s tax returns or legislative records or his relationship with indicted political fixer Tony Rezko, Senator Obama seems to take “the dog ate my homework” approach to disclosure.
Posted by: bbln | April 15, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Survey USA, the most reliable poll this campaign season, has Clinton leading Obama by 14 points. This gap will only get wider as more rural Pennsylvanians learn and digest Obama’s derogatory remarks about them.
Posted by: Joseph | April 15, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
shawn — she included estimated numbers for 2007 when she released the other tax returns.
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Ariana Huffington. The picture of elitist snobbery complaining about Hillary Clinton? Way to Go Hillary! This Huffington woman is a toad and has no clue what it’s like in the “real world”. I’m so tired of these rich media moguls telling the rest of the country how we “think and feel”. Yes, she is the epitome of the Obama supporter. Out of touch with too much money and a big Mouth! Come back down to Earth Ariana (with the rest of us) get a real job and actually WORK for a living and you might be singing a different tune.
Posted by: TexasMessenger | April 15, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Obama is sooooooooooooo icky.
Posted by: Kitty | April 15, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
There you go Shawn. A little research would have turned up your query on Clinton’s 2007 returns. Now what?
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
David, at least try to get some new wording. Obama already spouted this line. The person who should be ashamed is Obama, for ridiculing working class people. His supporters have been putting down working class people since Ohio, when they voted for Clinton. Obama was preparing his supporters for his loss in Pennsylvania, explaining why he would not win. In his mind, it is because working class people cannot understand that he is their salvation, not that he has failed to convince that he has the policies, experience and judgement to get the job done. Working class people have heard promises about change all their lives. They know that it takes more than pretty words to get things done. That is why they are not convinced by Obama, and why he will lose Pennsylvania.
Posted by: svsolis | April 15, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
HEY ARIANNA!!!!!!
DO THE MATH ABOUT OBAMA’S ELECTABILITY IN NOVEMBER.
HERE’S MY REALITY CHECK.
OBAMA LOST ALL BIG STATES.
HE WON ONLY SMALL STATES WITH A SMALL MARGIN OF REGISTER VOTERS.
HOW IS HE GOING TO WIN IN GENERAL ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER??????
HE IS UNELECTABLE…..
Posted by: NIcholas | April 15, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
“From the Pajamas story we learn that the Obama campaign THOUGHT she was a supporter… ”
Maybe Obama (and Huffington) aren’t as all-fired smart as they THINK they are, huh? :^)
Maybe Fowler WAS a “supporter” until she got to KNOW him.
HURRAY for Mayhill Fowler!
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Hey Vanessa,
Survey USA IS the most reliable pollster. They correctly predicted that Hillary would win in Ohio by 10 points. In California, while Zogby and others were predicting an Obama win, Survey USA again correctly predicted that Hillary would win California (and she did)!
Posted by: Joseph | April 15, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Okay BKMC — How is Obama electable or are you just into tearing other people down, which is now on script of the annointed one?
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Obama is unelectable…he doesn’t tell lies, he IS a lie.
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Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Quinnipiac is the most reliable PA pollster I guess. They have been polling in the state for maybe a year now and know very well what’s going on. They have an excellent reputation.
Posted by: watson | April 15, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
If Mayhill Fowler is an Obama supporter then I have a bridge to sell you. It’s sitting in Hillary’s back yard….and standing beside it is Mayhill Flowler. She is either the stupidest person to ever be allowed a voice or she is a closet Clinton supporter. If one takes the time to listen to the whole tape it is easy to see where, once again, his words have been taken out of context and distorted. Mayhill herself distorts his words.
She attened a private affair where the press was not allowed. She knew this.
She went ahead and did what a good jounralist would not do and reported regardless.
She twisted his meaning herself in her article.
The rest of the media? They pounced and made this into a situation that had no merit but hey they got good ratings and some got their 15 minutes of fame. Respect? that they lose by the boatload. Oh wait those Clinton supporters still think their grand..or until they report again on something Hillary does. Back and forth.
Mayhill needs to come out of the closet because with friends like her? Obama needs no one else to help him out.
Posted by: Brian | April 15, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
“How is Obama electable or are you just into tearing other people down, which is now on script of the annointed one?”
You can’t prove a negative, but we can discuss which candidate is MORE electable than their oponent. Even if we concede every single negative point that Hillary supporters try to pin him with (which for the record, I do not), he’d have to keep up the pace of lies, scandals, innapropriate connections, negative attacks, and stack those skeletons in his closet for as long as Hillary’s been in the public eye to match the material she has in her closet. The republicans can and will unleash these mercilessly, bringing her ALREADY HORRIBLE APPROVAL NUMBERS into Bush-like negative statistics until we’re all saluting President McCain in November.
So, even if you beleive Obama has problems, even if you think he’ll fail, isn’t it better to vote for the guy who has a slim chance of winning that Hillary who you can guarantee will lose?
Posted by: fontapa | April 15, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Survey USA had Obama leading Hillary in Texas by 1
I guess they didn’t count on all those “Republicans” voting for her
Posted by: Vanessa | April 15, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Shawn — Try looking at her website for her 2007 estimated tax return. She filed an extension (just like everyone else can) and posted her 2007 numbers.
Now, where are Obama’s 1997-1999 tax returns?
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
“So, even if you beleive Obama has problems, even if you think he’ll fail, isn’t it better to vote for the guy who has a slim chance of winning that Hillary who you can guarantee will lose?”
You’re right. I will vote for Hillary who has a great chance of winning rather than Obama’s no chance against McCain.
Nice try though.
Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I’m sorry if anyone thinks that Huffingtonpost is anything but pro-Obama they need serious medicine.
Go Hillary 08
Posted by: Michael | April 15, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I personally do not see where in the said article anyone could go overboard the way it is proving to be. If anything, you would think that all those TV wanna-be pundits, who claim to be well educated, who want to claim to know it all, would know to first comprehend the gist in what they read or hear before going on TV to shoot off their fat mouths on a sensitive issue. If what Obama said is so offensive, why did it take so long to surface? How come no one in the crowd, excepting ofcourse the one who sought to make a name for herself, come up with any kind of aversion??
Posted by: TK | April 15, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
HOO boy! Getta load of the banner graphic at huffpo with story “Clinton And McCain Vs. Obama” — a mix of fotos of Clinton and McCain. Quite vicious.
Hahahaha. I wouldn’t be Arianna Huffington for five billion bucks.
Mayhill Fowler! Brava!
Posted by: Haha Arianna | April 15, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
it is the atmosphere of Blogs like Arianna, DKOS that has let every obama lie go unreported. Since when did it become the democratic way to overlook mistakes of candidates. An why does every supposed to be “Progressive blogger” feel Hillary is supposed to ignore this present from snobama.
Posted by: toby | April 15, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
One rather supposes Mayhill Fowler may have MORE undercover material, having put in so much time on it . . . ? Maybe something special for North Carolina, say??
Bradley: “from the standpoint of Obama campaign figures, the material was gotten under false pretenses. One top Obama hand speaks of the campaign and candidate being blindsided.”
Kinda whiney.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
“it is the atmosphere of Blogs like Arianna, DKOS that has let every obama lie go unreported.”
How could you say that! The Huff Post just gave Hillary the attack lines she was so desperately searching for! Be thankful! It gave her “a new opening” as the MSM wrote (though Gallup and Rasmussen learn us she did’t seize the opportunity well; too greedy and agressive I guess).
Posted by: kirk | April 15, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
There is a bigger issue that has happened now twice with “off the record” reporting and I think that is actually a bigger issue than this really dumb controversy.
The Huffington Press hurt America with this story…not because Obama was right or wrong… they reported an even that they were keenly aware was one which they asked to be off the record and so he did not think strongly enough about how his words may be interpreted… There is many reasons why people ask the press to not report on something and the press respects that. Here the OTB knew this was a closed event and the press was not invited they were informed and even if the writer didn’t know Marc Cooper the editor did.
You all may be glad you heard these words…but remember when reporters are no longer allowed near the White House or the President’s family (as they were when the Clintons were in office…or as when they were when GW took power…) the circle of proximity is pushed back.
Off the record and such is not there to help just the subject of the story… it helps reporters get to the bottom of issues. When a news source prints a story that they are aware that they did not check to see if the campaign or subject had reference to the story and they had direct conversation with the subject that it was to be a private affair… unless the story is of monumental importance they hurt the overall journalistic field.
This was not at that level although I am sure many of you will say of course it is…but when we don’t know next time that an official hid something of national security or criminal behavior it is because of reporting like this.
All because they wanted the next big story.
Posted by: dl | April 15, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Please, Ms. Huffington! How can you blame Senator Obama’s opponents for using the matieral which he gave them with his own words out of his own mouth? If they had not used it to their political advantage they would have proven they did not know how to play hardball. We can argue all day whether what he said was in essence truthful and inartfully worded, or spin it to be what he really meant to say. But for anyone to be blindsided by the fallout is just ridiculous.
Posted by: PNolan | April 15, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
hoosier sue
If you look at the numbers of just people turning out for the republican and democratic primaries…and yes they are primaries but you combine them with the massive amounts of people moving over from the red column to the blue…and when the war and it’s budget and the economy tanking comes back into focus with the HUGE differences between the Repubs and the Dems
Obama wins.
The big number to look at as to who is unelectable is…likability …yes that is the strongest correlation…and combined with a year for the Change…
who wins those two things…
I can tell you one of the three is at the bottom of those… and I would not refer to the candidate as a him.
Posted by: dl | April 15, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
One supposes the Obamanoids must be in a bit of a paranoid panic, wondering what else heroic journalist Mayhill Fowler may have run across, and where it might surface . . .
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
after reading bill bradley article Arianna only allowed this to be published while she was “yachting” on David Geffen’s boat because she believed the bitter and bigot comments.
Posted by: toby | April 15, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
A little off subject. Looks like the latest Ras. Report shows McCain with a huge lead over Obama in Florida. Hillary and McCain are neck and neck.
Obama wins the primary…..DEMS lose the presidency. His massive ego will result in a loss for us all.
Posted by: catherine in nm | April 15, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Please. Arianna is just being as ridiculous as she always is.
Where was her outrage when he attacked her with Harry and Louise ads. That was way worse than anything Clinton has done.
She just has her panties in a twist because Obama’s main argument ‘electability’ is destroyed by his remark, whether fair or not.
Posted by: Joan | April 15, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I guess Huffington is sorry she took that cruise. She’s probably been up late every nite trying to figure out how to make this Clinton’s fault.
Posted by: rob | April 15, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
“His massive ego will result in a loss for us all.”
There’s ALREADY been the loss of rational reporting in most places, because of this birthday-suit baloney.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
rob — apparently something is working because the MSM is spinning it as Clinton’s fault by adopting Rovian tactics. Hmmm…who said what again? Oh that’s right, it came out of Obama’s mouth.
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Obama is unelectable…he doesn’t tell lies, he IS a lie.
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Posted by: LOM | April 15, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
What is also pretty funny about this is that the Huffington Post actively promoted the story. Now she is outraged by the reaction.
Please.
Posted by: Joan | April 15, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
dl:
You posit that Obama’s comments were “off the record,” but that would only pertain to a reporter. That simply is meaningless to the citizenry. The woman was no reporter at all and was under no secrecy obligation. Even stating “off the record” does not pertain in this scenario. Recall, the press was excluded. That is different than “off the record.”
Further, this was not the first time Obama expressed these ideas. In almost the same words he did so while being interviewed by Charlie Rose in 2004. Google it; you can find it online. It is a one-hour interview for all the world to see. It starts at about the 11 minute footage. You see, he did not misspeak at all. These were and are his long held beliefs. In essence he said (in 2004 Rose interview) people with economic hardships, because of insecurity, they go out hunting and attend church for stability. They then go to the Party that does not look down on them. Ironic, that he should say that because his very words look down on people.
In sum, there was nothing “off the record” about Obama’s statements.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 15, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Joan,
Maybe Arianna is so elitist that she really doesn’t get it.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 15, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
As I understand MSNBC is the favorite channel of Obama supporters. Where all the numbers, polls and facts a painfully twisted in favor of Obama.
Posted by: Tina D | April 15, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
“As I understand MSNBC is the favorite channel of Obama supporters. Where all the numbers, polls and facts a painfully twisted in favor of Obama.”
The crap that passes for political reporting on MSNBC really should be — probably IS — against the law: Matthews/Abrams/Alter and now even Olbermann, and most of the people who appear on those shows just push Obama, not only without scrutiny, but with a semi-erotic fervor which is downright embarrassing.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
I’d rather have more information not less. I don’t quite think it is fair to believe politicians should get a pass on what they say with a closed door media policy on fundraising events. If they say it to raise money or try to ease contributors concerns over electability, it should be on the record.
What they do in the pursuit of money should be fair game. The media pushes stories about votes tied to contributors all the time. I think the public perceives that politicians are beholdened to a contributor because the candidate received money from a particular group. In order to avoid the taint, the campaigns need to be transparent about what is promised and why it is given.
That said, I don’t feel 100% happy that HuffPost accepted the story from an Obama contributor without attributing her ties to that campaign. If bloggers give money and a news medium benefits, it should be a part of the story so the reader has enough information about whether that information is credible.
At some point, the public needs to gain trust in the media and in the politicians. If you guys don’t tell us what the relationship is, we have to assume we are being force fed soft news.
I watch the fake outrage from well paid commentators on television and Republican operators wondering whether I should trust what any of y’all tell me.
Posted by: Genna | April 15, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Let’s be clear on Off the Record conversations.
First, it must be stated up front, and not after a misstatement, a la Samantha Powers, to gain agreement that a comment is off the record.
Although many people would presume a fundraiser is off-the-record, it needs to be clearly stated on invitations and event signage.
Then, if material ends up being released, it is not from anyone following journalistic protocol.
Posted by: sherr | April 15, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
LA Times reporting Mayhill Fowler is receiving death threats from Obama thugs and vitriolic attacks from Daily Kos.
Posted by: Stan | April 15, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
“LA Times reporting Mayhill Fowler is receiving death threats from Obama thugs and vitriolic attacks from Daily Kos.”
Well, she’s the queen of journalism and truth, and a genuine people’s hero, and they’re NOT. Not having had a hero for a long time, I sure hope they don’t get her.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 15, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
We are only now seeing who Obama really is and what his mindset is….he was forced on us from the start, without being vetted. I believe more will come out on his true nature.
Posted by: Deb | April 15, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Yes the new spin for the media of obama (msnbc,cnn and every major democratic blog) is that “How dare Hillary use these comments to attack the One”.
Posted by: toby | April 15, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
It’s simple. They do not get it. They all agree what OBama said is true and somehow a good thing.
btw, Drudge is now trying to surpress Clinton voters with his phony doomsday poll stories. Obama must be spreading around a lot of cash.
Posted by: geevill | April 15, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
geevill “Do not believe Drudge”
geevill, you seem to be getting pretty desperate. Drudge is simply linking to the pages with the latest poll results.
He’s right about Obama having this year’s largest lead in the Gallup Daily Tracking poll, an 11 point lead over Clinton.
And the Bloomberg poll indeed contains a lot of bad news for Clinton.
But do not despair! Polls are only polls.
Posted by: danemann | April 15, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Fear Fear, Republican Fear,
The people that is trying to attack Obama, on this blog really is showing FEAR, instead of bring up what Hillary really has to offer (other than more Lies, and Big Money 100 million) they are choosing to try to smear Obama.
If Hillary and Bill is all that why is that Bill goes to Colombia ans speak for 800,000 dollars. (Obama could not get away with that).
Why does Hillary misspeak about those bullets flying over her head.
Why does Hillary’s every other speech has to bring up Obama..
Answer: FEAR
The Republicans truly FEAR Obama running against McCain.
They know that Hillary will be a wash as the closet is full of garabe.
Who was Bill’s old, PR, was it Ron Brown..
Remember him, God bless his soul.
More to come fromt the Republicans.
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I posted the latest PA polls showing Bloomberg way off base. Is it a coincidence that Drudhe has a paid ad from Obama on top of his website?
Why does Drudge cite a poll way out of the mainstream?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by: geevill | April 15, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Who was Ron Brown being talked to:
Vincent Walker Foster, Jr. (January 15, 1945–July 20, 1993) was a Deputy White House Counsel during the first term of President Bill Clinton, and also a law partner and friend of Hillary Rodham Clinton. His death was ruled a suicide by multiple official investigations, but remains a subject of interest among conspiracy theorists. .
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Sorry for the typo it is garbage I think
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Closet full of
You can judge a person’s character by what they do, and the content of their HEART.
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
American9,
You should go to Huff Post. You will be appreciated there. LOL
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 15, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
With a law degree from Harvard:
Working in the Ghetto, for poor people would not be considered Elitist..
But a character trait to help others.
He could have made millions in court taking money from people entering the judicial system. (As it is set up to ROB you BLIND)
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
what about the bizarre murders of gay men in South Chicago including Donald Young a choir director at Obama’s church?
Posted by: geevill | April 15, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Countallthevotes,,
Do you think that the Republicans are going to forget.
What will Hillary do if they post this,,
CRY…
You are Picking on me…
Oh, I was exhausted,,
Oh, I misspoke..
The Press always ask me questions first..
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
It’s 3:00 am
Hillary answers the phone…
Hillary Crys
Hillary is having a change of Life moment
Hillary pushes the button..
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
LOL
Just joking guys, I really like Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
The same people who told us NAFTA and deregulating the financial industry would be good for the country, are now saying Obama is an elitist, for pointing out that people are bitter about the economy.
Posted by: AkaDad | April 15, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
If you want to see who should be president and leading this country
go to cspan and find and watch Sen.Clinton’ speech to the newspaper publishers association.
She stood up there and really gave a great talk and then
she (off the cuff) took questions.
one was about the mosque bombing in souther iran.
and her answer was plain spoken-anyone could understand it-and very much to the point. no stumbling or pausing, stammering, trying to careful think what the answer is.
Just flat out knew the answer.
You can continue to say whatever you want to say negatively about Sen.Clinton
but the fact will always be
She absolutely-know more about the issues and can articulate them to people better-(and she is not claiming she is a great speech giver)
she absolutel runs circles around obama and mccain on the issues
John mccain gave an interesting talk about what he would do with the economy
I do not agree with him-but I understood what he was saying and I believe he believes he is right.
I believe Hillary believes what she is saying is right.
and I must say with mr. obama right now
for some one who claimed-to be the agent of change-i didn’t know him in the beginning-and what I am finding out about him-is not good. it seems he is just like any other politician-he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
we know hillary and the baggage she brings
but obama has to short of a political resume-to be running for president and causing himself all this trouble.
I hope before the debate he has a lot of practice-because his performance in the past debates was not impressive.
and if (god forbid) he should win the dem. nomination-he will not be able to say he won it fair and square.
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Young could only have known about Sinclair from one person. Barack Obama.
Posted by: geevill | April 15, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
go back and read the comments listed here-not much about the issues.
we cannot comment about the issues
and decide who has the better plan
the media is all pro obama and gone jerry springer on us.
the obama supporters-cannot talk about and defend their guy on the issues-because they and everyone else knows obama is weak on the issues-so all they can do is attack hillary on non issue items-bill,bills presidency,but not about the issues that will make a bit of difference to them.
the hillary supporters cannot comment on the issues-which she is very strong on-because we feel we must defend her.
and try to get back on the issues.
these conversations are in a round about way just what obama was saying about the bitter comments, guns and church.
obama supporters cannot talk up their guy on the issues-because he does not know how to solve the problems of this counrtry so they “cling”
to running down Sen. Clinton-as their only defense of him
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
I don’t know my Mr. Obama personally to know if he is an elitist or not. He doesn’t come from an elitist background, so I suspect he isn’t. Having voted Republican most of my life I find my self in new territory supporting a liberal like Mr.Obama. He reminds of Harry Truman–he says stuff that people don’t like and then sticks with it. He didn’t dump the Reverend when both of the other Politicians would have. His wife never stays more than two days away from her children and speaks her mind. She seems like a genuinely nice person and that says a lot about Mr. Obama. Plus he is not very good at playing dirty politics and that is the kind of person I like.
Posted by: mike | April 15, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
george bush has said things and stuck with them-no matter what
people were duped into voting for bush
many people had their doubts about him
from the debates with gore we could all tell he was not up to snuff on the issues-but some gave him a pass anyway.
when he got into office-he made the comment-I have been given political capital by the people and i am going to spend it the way I see fit.
his vp said-the american people do not agree with your views on this particular issue-the vp said “so?”
mr obama seems to be able to give good prepared speechs-he cannot take questions off the cuff-which makes me suspect if he has a complete understanding of issues.-I do not think he does.
I do not think compared to hillary clinton he is the smartest on the issues.
mr obama says things and if people question him to much on it he will blame everyone-except him self
he and his surrogates are some how trying to blame this fiasco on his part. on hillary clinton.
harry truman said “the buck stops here”
I do not see that coming from obama
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
well obama is preaching division and confusion right now-because he says one thing to the american people and says another thing to others behind closed doors.
he has caused division in the black community-
everytime he opens his mouth of late he confuses people more and more of what his message it.
but thank goodness-we are giving bill clinton some credit for something good.
because most of the time the obama supporters say anything you hear from bill clinton is a lie
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
geevil writes:
1. what about the bizarre murders of gay men in South Chicago including Donald Young a choir director at Obama’s church?
2. Young could only have known about Sinclair from one person. Barack Obama.
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 15, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Don’t know what black community you live in.
I did not put that Joint in my/her mouth and I/she did not inhale
NO MORE LIES:
Bullet over head, Bullets at the firing range.. Bullets everywhere Hillary goes.
Posted by: American9 | April 15, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
jgaw–well said! However, is it so important to be the smartest on issues or is it important respond to issues smartly. Hillary is a much more polished speaker off the cuff than Barack. He is no match playing dirty politics. If this was played cleanly Barack would win hands down. I live in Arkansas and I have spoken with people that have known Hillary and have worked with Hillary. They say that she was brilliant, but had no scruples what so ever. They could be lying but I suspect from what I have seen of her here in Arkansas and from her campaigning that they are correct. But it is possible that see will make a great president. Just being fair and balance.
Posted by: mike | April 15, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Where is the intellectual honesty for a magazine claiming to be on the side of truth? Or is that another spin to “hoodwink”? As I saw it, more than Clinton campaign was involved in commenting on Mr. Obama’s “different strokes to different folks”.
Ms. Huffington is a wealthy woman, who has an ego the size of Mt. Everest and quite the opposite talent and support. At least she can try to be intellectually honest. But, I guess not.
Posted by: Onlooker | April 15, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
The Huffington Post is pure fiction. They wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped them in the face. If anyone wants to read trash, all they need to do is log on. The vitriolic tenor of many of the bloggers is frightening. Remember that “unity” thing Obama said he was all for. Just go to that site and you will see why many of us have turned away from Obama, and his brand of unity. Is there anything that Obama does, that he will accept responsibility for. Arianna, now trying to turn this one around and point the finger at Hillary would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic. If Obama was hurt by his condenscending remarks in San Francisco, the wound was self-inflicted.
Posted by: beachnan | April 15, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Mike I also, think sen. clinton is in some way wanting to redeem her name with the country.
I do think she will make a good president
and as being the first woman president
we could not have picked a more qualifed woman to be the first.
I dare say that will not be the case for the first african american president
it seems to me he has deliberately tried distance himself from the american part of his african-american
there are not many female politicians on the horizion that will be ready to be president-if hillary does not get it.
but there are many african americans
politicians on the horizion that are a lot more qualified that barack obama
increasing their political resumes and doing a lot of good work.
and I fear after him-it will take a long while for the country to be ready to accept the next black person for president.
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
who ever you really are-since we don’t know each other
you are disgracing your self to the cosmos
since you can type-you can do better with your comments than what you are doing.
you can take the high road anytime you wish.
Posted by: jgaw | April 15, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
American9 are your serious:
Rezko-I hardly knew the man. Now it’s that he contributed at least $250,000 to his campaign. Plus, you might want to ask all the poor people in Obama’s district who went without heat because of REZKO
NAFTA-Say one thing, while someone from your staff goes to Canada and assures them that you don’t really mean what you are saying to the public
WRIGHT-Sit in a church that preaches racism and hate for over 20 years
“Typical White Woman” comment- shows just how Obama likes to sterotype different people (reminds you of his church)
Bitter comment: He was replying to the question as to why he wasn’t doing better in Pennsylvania. His excuse was that he was a black man, and these people are bigoted, as they cling to their guns, and religion. Go back and look at the tape if you fail to understand this.
I will not take money from lobbyists-Has taken more money from PACs, basically the same thing as lobbyists-the only differnce is there is a middleman involved. (people still expect something in return)
I don’t take money from the oil companies-yes he can! and did! Again he took their money thru PACs or by having CEO’s wives donate it, but it still came from the oil campanies
I could keep going, but the list is too long and once you get started on his book, it keep going and going. And you are worried about whether their was sniper fire, when in fact she did go to war zone? YOU NEED TO STOP KIDDING YOURSELF, THAT YOUR CANDIDATE HAS CLEAN HANDS.
Posted by: beachnan | April 15, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Obama on Guns – when Obama ran for the Illinois state senate the political group, Independent Voters of Illinois (IVI), asked him if he supported a “ban [on] the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns” and he responded “yes.” – LIAR- But in what will probably be the most improbable change, the Politico reported on Saturday that Barack Obama was making a big play for gun votes in Pennsylvania. In 1998, another questionnaire administered by IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test didn’t ask about banning all handguns, but it did find that Obama wanted to “ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.” Source: Fox News and Politico.com
Posted by: Gee | April 15, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
I read the article, and found this comment said it all:
Hogarth:
So this is the so-called “New Media,” eh?
In the tank for the chosen-one, trying to spin, bias, or keep things from ever seeing the light of day. Doing their damndest to influence an election “by the People, for the People” to suit their own craven desires.
Please, tell me again how this is any different from the “Old Media.”
Posted by: Victor | April 16, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Obama said that he choose his words poorly….. but he also said that WORDS MATTER.
Posted by: Gee | April 16, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Just before the Iowa caucus, Obama began telling voters about a phone conversation with his wife, who said this year was the right time to run for president because they are “still almost normal.” She meant that before her husband became a U.S. senator and received a $1.9 million book advance, they juggled school loans, grocery shopping and mortgage payments like other middle-class families.
“Michelle’s point was, in eight years from now, 10 years from now, we may still be nice people, but we may be in this orbit where we just don’t remember, we don’t hear people’s voices anymore,” Obama explained at the time.
Two women in the Sioux City audience were not impressed.
“That was a mistake,” said Lindsay Pelchat, 30. “That was a big mistake.”
“Don’t ever forget where you come from,” her friend, Paula Yasat, 53, piped in.
“Does that mean in the next election he’s already going to start losing sight of the middle class?” Pelchat asked.
The women approached Obama afterward to tell him they remained undecided.
“What do I need to do?” Obama asked, almost disbelieving. “You’re really making us work.”
At a February town hall meeting in Racine, Wis., Obama showed little patience for a rowdy crowd. When one young man asked for his views on Native American rights and “people getting screwed” by NAFTA, Obama took a sharp tone.
“I’m sorry, young man, you have a series of different questions and why don’t you ask your questions in a more polite fashion,” Obama said.
An aide later said that Obama, who was on his last stop before a trip home to Chicago, appeared irritated because was anxious to see his family.
Reacting in mid-February to Clinton’s charges that he was all talk, Obama offered a confident self-assessment, one that might sound arrogant to some. “It’s true I give a good speech. What can I do? Nothing wrong with that.”
Obama infuriated supporters of former Sen. John Edwards by continuing to use him as a punch line on the stump even after he left the race. And New York magazine reported last month that Obama blew the endorsement, in part, because he came across as “glib and aloof” during a phone conversation on the day that Edwards dropped out.
Cass R. Sunstein, a former colleague of Obama’s at the University of Chicago law school, said the characterizations by Obama opponents of him as elitist is “laughable,” and the charge of him as condescending “aren’t features of his personality.”
But he allowed that Obama, like anybody under a nearly 24-hour-a-day microscope, can slip up.
“He is a real person,” Sunstein said. “He is not programmed in the way that some political candidates have been in the past. The moment-by-moment scrutiny is surely less familiar for him than it has been for people who have been facing this kind of scrutiny for a longer time.”
Posted by: Gee | April 16, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Just for a minute, can we leave the lionizing of the common man up to Larry the Cable Guy and the Ford Motor Company? Please?
Not since Teddy Freaking Roosevelt have we had a president who even remotely resembles the mythical creature called “the common man.”
What you’re asking Obama and other politicians to do is to pander. Pure and simple. We’re so accustomed to this pandering, to watching candidates pretend like they really identify with the GED crowd, we’ve come to think this is the way things are SUPPOSED to be done.
Obama is not of the NASCAR set. No questions about that. But neither are any of the rest of them.
He is, however, a candidate whose roots are as populist as any president in the last thirty years. He’s somebody who has articulated a sophisticated grasp of how wedge issues distract us from economic woes — not to mention a textbook understanding of social values theory. And he’s somebody whose public service track record gives us every reason to think he genuinely has working-class interests at heart.
And we’re upset because he’s not putting enough effort into faking commonness?
Look, the time to have been aghast was when the guy pretended to give a flying crap about bowling.
Asserting that communities get frustrated and focus on material values when the grocery budget is tight — that’s a reason to rally behind the guy.
Posted by: Brian in MT | April 16, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
I like this Obama guy. He says what he means and tells the truth. People are angry, very angry. “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy, to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” It’s true! Admit it! You are pissed. I am pissed at the current government. This forum is proof. Are you blind? Republicans fear-mongers and truth-twisters will to ANYTHING to keep power in the hands of the rich and easily lobbied (including, yes, Hillary). We need change here people. If you can’t handle the truth, then vote for your half-truth teller and see what you’ll get. Obama does not play dirty political games. I will never vote for someone who puts down his/her opponent. It shows you are desperate and not up to par (Ms. Clinton whom I was actually planning to vote for.) Obama is the better candidate here. Plus, he is a guys who worked from nothing to get where he is, a working class man who “made it” on student loans and studying (not daddy’s money and influence). How american is that for you? How can one deny this fact alone. Also, he knows what it is to be a minority. His backgound enables him to remember the poor and middle class when he takes decisions. All the other candidates are stinking rich. Who do you think they’ll protect? And yes, because of all this, and so much more, he is above Hillary and McCain.
Posted by: JOHN LIKES THE TRUTH | April 16, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Politicans are all the same(they say anything to win):
“Obama’s 20 largest sources of money, grouped by employers, are executives from major corporations and law firms with a Washington lobbying presence — including Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and Google, according to the center. Clinton’s and McCain’s top donors include executives from some of the same companies, such as Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.”
Posted by: John | April 16, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Obama ’08=John Kerry ’04
Posted by: We're making a mistake! | April 16, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Jake Tapper:
Shakespear himself could not have phased it better! HoHoHo!
Posted by: Shakespear | April 16, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
The attack machine for the libs that covers itself as saying its real journalism is complaining about a Supposed Republican attack machine.
Has Barack Hussein Obama told the truth at all, his new thing is he grew up on food stamps under a single mother, but yet when he was two his mother remarried, thus his mother was not married and how would they collect food stamps but yet got to private schools in
India and then Hawaii, where the stealing food stamps from the poor.
Obama is an Elitist, if not why would he have a closed door meeting with Billionaires and get caught talking about socialism?
We now also know his wife is a big racist by her Princeton term paper! That she was surprised other blacks in the college did not think poorly of whites!
I know this post will be removed because it brings up the truth about Obama, but we will give it a try!
Posted by: spock | April 16, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Yesterday I heard more solutions for the economy from John McCain than I’ve heard from Barack Obama. Obama didn’t totally disappoint me, he keeped up his usual repertoire of attacking other people’s solutions without offering any solutions of his own!
Posted by: Alex | April 16, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Kept*
Posted by: Alex | April 16, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Interesting on the Immigran issue, No one I know is against Immigrant, they are against law breakers called ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! see the word Illegal, People are mad that the Government that the libs want to grow can not even do what it is only suppose to do under the Constitution, that is protect our Sovereignty!!
Posted by: spock | April 16, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
well if it is all over for Sen. Clinton
It is a fact obama will not have won fair and square
It is a fact he is not as smart as sen. clinton
It is a fact all of these things and people in his history that people now have been sweeping under the rug-will come out
It is a fact he will not win the election
And it is certainly a Fact the american people will be chosing between two of the least qualified to lead this country and the world- and doing it for all the wrong reasons.
if george bush was a C student in college and cheney was beneath him
(well, you get my meaning)
Sen. Clinton is the smart one in the group-has all the facts and knows what to do to get this country back on track.
Sen. Clinton is the one the poor and working class people needed this time around.
She was right – “This is not a game”
obama or mccain as president…
and the rest of the world…cried.
Posted by: jgaw | April 16, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
10:30 AM Central time
Just checked a comphrensive list of political pools and Senator Clinton is ahead in PA by as much as 20 points and ahead in 20 out of 26 other states. Maybe the voters are beginnig to know the real Senator Obama. When I see the endorsements by many political has-beens, I know they are just hoping for a favor from Obama that they know they will not get from Clinton. Clinton is more honest,
Posted by: Mary | April 16, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
“his new thing is he grew up on food stamps under a single mother”
This is the campaign’s most obnoxious — and heartless, aimed as it is at the truly poor — fairy tale.
Posted by: Adlai Stevenson | April 16, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
hmmmmm…I don’t know too many single moms that can afford prep schools for their children throughout their developmental years. Outrageous ! This man has not LIVED poverty !
Posted by: catherine in nm | April 16, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
“When I see the endorsements by many political has-beens, I know they are just hoping for a favor from Obama that they know they will not get from Clinton.”
LOL!
Three more Pennsylvania newspapers (‘has-beens’?) endorsed Obama today. Today as well he’ll add 3 more SuperDelegates to his support. An American icon, who’s still and rightly so VERY popular in PA, Bruce Springsteen, just endorsed Obama. In the meantime, check what ABC’s new poll tells us about Hillary’s further fall from grace…
Stop fooling yourself, please. Things have never looked worse for Hillary than at this stage of the nomination race.
She’s so unpopular with a large majority of Americans, the ABC poll tells us, that she is the TOTALLY UNELECTABLE candidate from now on.
Posted by: gregory | April 16, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
In Puerto Rico, a bombshell fell on Barack Obama. This “bomb” goes by the name of Larry Sinclair and his allegations of homosexuality and cocaine use against Barack Hussein Obama, which happened to go ‘prime time’ throughout the Island.
Google it for more info as Obama’s Dubious Past Goes ‘Mainstream”
Posted by: Vickie | April 16, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
jgaw – FYI – President Bush was an A student 3.8 GPA, see how you libs believe lies.
Obama and Hilary are identical except that Obama is better at lying to the American People, the libs know what he is which is a Hate America and White People groupie!!
If Obama collected Food Stamps then he and his mother lied to get them, since he was wealthy.
Oh and by the way because you grew up poor and became rich does not mean you can not be an elitist anyhow!!
Why has he not donated more money to the poor? why did he get earmarks for his wife to get a raise!!
As Obama ever spoken the truth? yes when he was pushing his socialistic agenda to his elitist billionaire friend where he thought he would not be heard outside!!
He is a George Soros Puppet!!!!
Posted by: spock | April 16, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
FYI We now know because of Obama and Reid and Kerry – That Americans are Stingy, Stinky, Clingy, Racists, Religious nuts, unproud, and from Kerry dumb if your in the Military!!
I think the three were really talking about themselves and other Elitists!!
Is there any non-corrupt Liberal Politicians out there??
Posted by: spock | April 16, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The article by old Obama (Obama’ father), with a loaded term in the title and a casual discussion of socialism, communism and nationalization,,,,,,, OMG ……… BARACK OBAMA HID HIS FATHER’S SOCIALIST AND ANTI-WESTERN CONVICTIONS FROM HIS READERS. Google it as read in capital above, and you will find out this fits in with the statement Obama made about people in small town clinging to religion. That was nothing more than a restatement of Karl Marx’s view that religion is the “opiate of the masses.” The mask is coming off Obama and it’s about time!
Posted by: Linda | April 16, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
spock,
If “Little Bush” was an A student it is because his daddy paid for it.
and at any rate
he gets an “F” for being POTUS
Posted by: jgaw | April 16, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
I come across this AOL article about Michelle.
Gosh it is so true that Mr.and Mrs Obama are full of themsleves and want to fix others’ broken souls.
Goggle article “Michelle Obama Fumbles on Defense”
Part of Michelle said:
“We live in isolation, and because of that isolation we fear one another.
Because Barack Obama is the only person in this race who understands that. That before we can work on the problems we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation.
Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed.”
Posted by: Victor | April 16, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It seems that the Obama’s play the fear card a lot. For a campaign that is supposed to be about change and hope, I hear them mostly talk about division, fear and bitterness most of the time.
Posted by: cappamore | April 16, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
“Gosh it is so true that Mr.and Mrs Obama are full of themsleves and want to fix others’ broken souls.”
Obama creeps me out, but MRS. Obama just makes me TIRED: people who DON’T make 400,000 a year at an office job would rather leave the “soul” stuff to the upper-income illuminati, and have some health care, plumbing, good food, Social Security and so on.
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 16, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I have resigned myself to the fact he will most likely win the nomination. But between Rev.Wright and Michelle he will never be president. The left-wing-nuts can blame themselves.
Posted by: wwt | April 16, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“between Rev.Wright and Michelle he will never be president.”
And Rezko et al. And the “gay” business.
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 16, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It’s hard to see anything wrong with Obama’s “Bitter” statement while you are sunning on a Yacht in Tahiti……
How is Arianna’s Post going to handle with the Auchi-Connection?…..
( IRONY IS OBAMA — opposing a War, but getting Financial Support from an Arms Dealer….lol —- )
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 16, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
How is Arianna’s Post going to handle with the Auchi-Connection?…..
“See no evil” and mindless cheerleading?
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 16, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Wonder if something will break in the “debate” tonight — or will it be the same constipated platitudes as usual?
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 16, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Read that at the Rezko Party— (which Obama doesn’t recall being) A TOAST was made to the guest of Honor— Mr. Billionair–Terrorist Supporter—Auchi….lol
( I hear cases of Kristal opening and popping — Woohoo…. this is the life )
Don’t recall?…. Not sure which party everyone is blogging about?….. Which Rev. Wright’s Statement is offensive?……Bitter?…… uh come on now….. Why does everyone get my Message wrong?…….
Maybe because finally you are using your own words ( words being so important to you ) and what they are saying is —- YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING… YOU ARE A PRODUCT OF AXELROD AND WE ARE FINALLY OPENING THE PACKAGE ………
And what is left under the shroud placed by Axelrod—-confusion, contradiction,arrogance and even hate.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 16, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I can hear the robo calls now. What would you think if Senator Obama new a gay member of his church who ended-up being murdered and they have never solved the murder. It will not matter if it is not true, it will do the trick.
Posted by: wwt | April 16, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
geo. step. said he does not believe sen. clinton supporters will not vote for obama-said some how we will come together.
well newsflash
OBAMA WILL NEVER GET THIS BLACK PERSON’ VOTE.
OBAMA WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT
HE IS NOT QUALIFIED AND HE IS A FAKE.
Posted by: Jgaw | April 16, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
“geo. step. said … some how we will come together.”
Yeah, Democrats will come together for McKinney and Nader, if the Dems don’t dump the “post-partisan” diversity duo and nominate John Edwards.
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 16, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The Dems have fatally miscalculated. There are literally millions of Hillary supporters who will never vote for Barack Hussein Obama. They are fools and elitist fools at that.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 16, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Jake, where are you? Hopefully doing a good investigation story on Obama.
Posted by: cmd | April 16, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Has this blog become nothing but a trash bin for the racist smear campaign dirt?
Please Jake and ABC, do something about this. I can’t imagine this is how you want this blog to function.
Posted by: Catho | April 16, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
“I can’t imagine this is how you want this blog to function.”
It’s a darn good thing there’s still a media outlet that permits people who aren’t part of the Obama cult to comment. “Democracy” — remember it?
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | April 16, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
We have the POWER NOW…. to elect who will have all the POWER….Looking at the 3 Candidates now… they surely do not represent the Best of Our Country—- but we are smart enought not to elect someone who has benefited from an ARMS DEALER, has ties to TERRORISTS ( folks– please DO NOT put AYERS in the backburner ) and can not decide who’s words are what— even when they are his OWN.
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 16, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
“Obama on Wednesday criticized former President Jimmy Carter for meeting with leaders of the Islamic terrorist group Hamas as he tried to reassure Jewish voters that his candidacy isn’t a threat to them or U.S. support for Israel.” — Associated Press, two hours ago
This might not sit so well with Obama’s “leftist” supporters …
Posted by: Adlai Stevenson | April 16, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
“folks– please DO NOT put AYERS in the backburner”
Funny thing: Ayers, unlike Dohrn and others, didn’t GO to jail. Wonder how THAT came about? Just the fact that Ayers (and many other Weather-peoploe) was a rich kid, or something more?
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 16, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Interesting story about the story….Is it true Obama initially lied and denied he made these comments?
I have also heard it said that the comments Obama made about people in small town clinging to religion was nothing more than a restatement of Karl Marx’s view that religion is the “opiate of the masses.”
More Marxism than elitism….after all Marx and Malcolm X were Obama’s heros.
Posted by: Jackie | April 17, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Obama’s associations with Farrahkan, Wright, Ayers and Refko should be fully vetted. Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers in the 1990’s, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid, underlined PAID directorship position. They worked together, attended fundraisers together, Ayers held fundraisers and was a contributor to Obama’s Chicago’s campaign, plus they are neighbors and visited each other quite often. Enough said. This relationship deserves being vetted. What’s the fear?
DON’T FORGET THESE PEOPLE: Wright, Ayers, Sinclair, Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, Rezko, Meeks, Malley, Auchi, Khalidi, McPeaks, Michelle Obama.
Imagine OBAMA and ALL these friends, associates, endorsers, etc., having a Pres.-Elect party?
After a few — Wright could get up and give another, ‘HATE WHITEY AMERICA!’, speech…while Rezko`s trying to sell the White House to the Russians…before Lewis Ayers gets a chance to full-fill his life-long dream of blowing it up…meanwhile, BO and Sinclair renew some bad habits together…as Michele likes to watch…would be quite a party…anyone for crashing it…and you thought the Clintons were bad in the White House…
I’d much rather have the Clintons there. Maybe – and that’s a HUGE maybe – involved in a scandal which doesn’t affect the American people — this is why the media ignores this garbage for what it is and will continue to ignore it as old news. Without the media, Obama can’t use it effectively enough to beat her…which makes her far more electable.
Meanwhile, Hillary’s policies could have us in prosperous times — compare that to BO and Friends…who, quite frankly, may be dangerous to the American people.
McCain’s going to wipe the floor with Obama!
They’ll rip him apart, along with each and every one of those “PEOPLE/GROUPS MENTIONED ABOVE”!!!
Posted by: MYCOUNTRY | April 17, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Don’t forget the comments Obama made on April 6th at a private fundraiser in San Francisco. There, the freshman Illinois senator, opining about people in small towns where the jobs have fled, said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
“This is elitist behavior by Senator Obama,” says Schmidt (reporter). “The condescension Obama shows toward the values of people who are the backbone of America is very clear.”
Those few words, transcribed from a more than 45-minute recording of Obama, buried in the midst of a very ruminative, rather personally-oriented piece Mayhill Fowler, an activist blogger who supports Obama and contributed the maximum allowable $2,300 to his presidential campaign, kicked off a media firestorm.
“We recognized it was a politically volatile story and thought it would create news,” says Marc Cooper, editorial coordinator of Huffington Post’s “Off The Bus” project for “citizen journalists” such as Fowler. “We had no idea that the controversy would reach this magnitude.”
I GUESS THEY HAD NO IDEA SMALL-TOWN AMERICANS REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR BELIEFS, OUR COUNTRY AND OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICAN CITIZENS!
NO OBAMA — GO HILLARY!
Posted by: concerned | April 17, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Obama condemns Carter with meeting with the leaders of Hamas; the same group that is calling voters in the U.S. to vote for Barack. Interesting isn’t it.
Posted by: Russ | April 17, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
If I were a conservative, I’d be scared of Obama too. And I’d probably use slander or personal attacks or fabricated stories to try and stop him.
Posted by: snesich | April 18, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Hillary deserves some Dignity and credit.When her Husband was in office people had jobs,money,homes and they could send their kids to college,now what?
Obama is a nice guy too,but why didn’t he go to an all Black college like I did?I spent four years of my life in one of the Nation’s largest Black University and couldn’t make a single friend !I could and had the money to go to an all White school,but I was feeling really sad for Blacks back in 1965…Later on for graduate studies I went to an all White school,then and there I found out about the Depth of Hatred between races and went to teach in Europe.Obama is a Nice person and both of them are fantastic candidates,they should stop attacking each other by ads,verbally and during debates,istead they should talk about their plans for our future,our economy,our kids and of America.PHD/U Teacher
Posted by: Ellie Herri | April 23, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm