‘Judas’ Richardson and the Gospel of Bill Clinton
Being likened to Judas by Hillary Clinton adviser James Carville did not sit well with Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.).
"It is this kind of political venom that I anticipated from certain Clinton supporters and I campaigned against in my own run for president," Richardson writes today in the Washington Post.
"I can only say that we need to move on from the politics of personal insult and attacks. That era, personified by Carville and his ilk, has passed and I believe we must end the rancor and partisanship that has mired Washington in gridlock," writes the newly-bearded governor. "In my view, Sen. Obama represents our best hope of replacing division with unity."
I always enjoy the word "ilk."
Meanwhile, the San Francisco Chronicle provides a great glimpse at former President Bill Clinton not taking his own advice to "chill out."
Meeting privately with California’s superdelegates at the Golden State Democratic Party convention, he turned red when Richardson’s endorsement of Obama was raised.
"Five times to my face he said that he would never do that," Clinton "erupted."
"The former president then went on a tirade that ran from the media’s unfair treatment of Hillary to questions about the fairness of the votes in state caucuses that voted for Obama. It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent and people were telling him to drop out. . . .’It was kind of strange later when he took the stage and told everyone to "chill out,’" one delegate told the newspaper. ‘We couldn’t help but think he was also talking to himself.’"
Richardson addresses some of these details in his op-ed, calling his endorsement "a difficult, even painful, decision. My affection and respect for the Clintons run deep. I do indeed owe President Clinton for the extraordinary opportunities he gave me to serve him and this country. And nobody worked harder for him or served him more loyally, during some very difficult times, than I did."
He adds that "while I was truly torn for weeks about this decision, and seriously contemplated endorsing Sen. Clinton, I never told anyone, including President Clinton, that I would do so. Those who say I did are misinformed or worse."
As for Carville’s assertions that he did not return President Clinton’s calls: "I was on vacation in Antigua with my wife for a week and did not receive notice of any calls from the president."
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Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 2, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
I love the humility: “And nobody worked harder for him or served him more loyally, during some very difficult times, than I did.” It speaks volumes. Also, I think I’d fire my staff if no one gave me “notice” that a former US president had been calling…
Posted by: Vnd | April 2, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Carville is a betrayal to the nation. Does loyalty to your nation surpass loyalty to the Clinton. If Richardson fells that anyone is better for the job of the presidency, he should ingnore that and endorse Hillary. This is why we are were we are today..
Posted by: james | April 2, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Ol’Richardson didn’t realize that the term “Bloodsport” really means what it sounds like it mens.
So we know that politics ain’t about doing what you think is best for the country. It is about HER winning, or no Dem winning.
Kinda reminds me of the “you are either with us or you are against us” meme from recent times.
Richardson’s just a naive pup, but he’s learning.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
how mad would anyone be if someone told them they wouldn’t do something 5 times after a long standing relationship and then turns around and does it!if a friend or aquintance did that to me i for shure would have some choice words.
Posted by: don tufts | April 2, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Judas Richardson, just another party turncoat. They will all get theirs in the end for betraying the party base. Go Hillary or McCain
Posted by: Jacko | April 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
James Carville and Bill Clinton are out of control.
Posted by: Lookup | April 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Cintin’s whinning again? When are they going to talk issues? I am sick of hearing about it. It’s politics Bill.
Posted by: Thinking | April 2, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
This is the president of the USA we are talking about. Should we put a lunatic in power just because they are our friend ?
Posted by: james | April 2, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
This is strictly politics. Obama promised Richardson more than Hillary did; in fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see an Obama/Richardson ticket should Obama get the nomination.
Richardson is a Judas, pure and simple. Bill Clinton gave him opportunities that he parlayed into becoming NM’s governor. Richardson would not be where he is without the Clintons.
Should this work out as a VP slot for Richardson, it will give me great pleasure to vote against not only Obama but Richardson as well. Neither of them are fit to run this country .
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 2, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I think the screws are being turned by the DNC, the high power dems and Obama.
The ones getting screw are the people, the voters. They have made great efforts to let the people know they do not matter. (talk about ripping apart a party)
Promises made, threats enacted, Bought and paid for endorsements.
Pretty sad, That People on jumping on the short bus.
Obama says unity, then divides. So he can make it seem like he unites in the end?
He is the worst and most dangerous person I have ever seen run for president.
He came from no where, knows nothing and people are getting sucked in by a speech.
We need more than words for a President right now. We need someone who knows what the fark they are doing. Is Strong and willing to fight for their country and willing to die for it too. Obama is not the one.
He wants to hand out flowers and have tea parties with the enemies of America.
He wants the people to “help me build a kingdom on earth”
What person of any type of character lies on, to or about their friends and family………..
He wants Israel to lay down their weapons and tear down the wall. for what to be taken over my Muslims?
He called all Americans Racist, because they got upset for someone God Damning their country.
He said he wants religion in government.
is that like all the Arab countries have? Or his religion and the black value system.
He said he wanted to unite, but the blacks continue to use African American, instead of American. Start their Obama, Bet they won’t let you do that one.
The man played games with foreign nations as part of his campaign.
We the people do not want Obama, We know he will be worse than bush. That he will not Do for this country what it really needs done.
Add up all his lies, and then tell us why you believe anything he says.
A vote for America is a vote against Obama.
Posted by: seah | April 2, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
This has nothing to do with the good of the country or the loyalty to the Clintons. This is about Richardson doing what will benefit Richardson. If he thought Hillary had a better chance of winning than Obama he would have been singing her praises from the rooftops. The guys is an opportunistic loser.
Posted by: Firefighter | April 2, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Look Richardson wanted to endorse Hills.
But ultimately he just couldn’t do it. One guy is way ahead and represents a change from the same old same old.
The other is way behind and is a blast from the past.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to make the call here.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
After working in Bill’s administration, I’d think Richardson would have a pretty good idea what a Hillary administration would like. Obviously, he had major reservations or he would indeed have endorced Hillary. I think it took courage for him to place what he percieved as the nation’s need for a less partisan administration above personal loyalty. Let’s not forget that it was the elevation of personal loyality above other qualifications that gave us Brownie at FEMA and Gonzales as AG.
Posted by: Beth | April 2, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
“One guy is way ahead and represents a change from the same old same old.”
Can someone please outline the change that Americans can expect with an Obama presidency? That is what he has promised in this campaign, and it quickly deteriorated into what he said he did not want. There have been constant attacks on Clinton’s character, integrity and experience all the while omitting concrete specifics into WHY he is the better candidate.
What has Obama done to exhibit superior character, integrity and experience? How is he REALLY going to lead this country in a new direction other than being a Democrat with a platform that is 95%+ the same as Clinton.
Posted by: LOM | April 2, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Richardson is an opportunist. I do not like the guy and I think he is way too full of himself. He damaged himself politically by being a person of no loyalty to the Clintons – but mostly to the Hispanics. I am also tired of his portraying himself as holier than thou. He also is ungrateful with each time he states he worked hard for the Clinton’s as if he paid back any debt or gratitude with his wonderful efforts. Richardson is dispicable. If he doesn’t notice Obama being just as divisive and full of personal attacks against his opponent- Richardson is blind or dumb and confirms even more that his opinion and endorsement are totally meaningless.
Posted by: this election counts | April 2, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Why are we taking Bill Clinton’s word for the fact that Richardson told him something “five times to his face”? He isn’t exactly known for telling the complete truth on personal issues.
Posted by: mmmmom | April 2, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
“One guy is way ahead” ? What are you smokin’? It is a neck and neck race. Anc Bill Clinton’s comments are very true- what outrage would there be if the tables were turned and people were crying for Obama to drop out of the race with such a close race?????
Posted by: this election counts | April 2, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Obama is the biggest divider i’ve seen in the few years i have been interested in politics. The fact that he lies his way to almost every voter is something very troubling for me. I don’t like his deceiving games and his double standard towards others.
Posted by: Persio | April 2, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Judas was not called a betrayer because he cast his vote for someone else. Judas was called a betrayer because he told the enemies of Jesus where they could find Him. Judas knew that they sought to defame, destroy or even kill Jesus. Bill Richardson did not hand Hillary over to the media to destroy her chances at becoming President. Bill Richardson simply voted for the person who he felt was the best candidate. As an elected official, Bill Richardson chose not to betray his country. He had to put his country over his friendship.
Although we may not all agree who is best for the country, it’s not fair to call him a traitor for simply not voting for Hillary. You can’t “pinky swear” your way into the Presidency.
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Imagine that! Bill Clinton (!!!) complaining about someone lying and being disloyal.
Posted by: Ed Rendell | April 2, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
The racist arrogance of many of you is despicable and totally consistent with the Clintons. Bill Richardson earned any posts he got because he was qualified, and he kept it because he was compentent. He owed Bill Clinton nothing more than hard work and dedication while he served. He certainly is not obligated to years later support his wife for the presidency if he feels there is a candidate that can better lead the country. I f he were not latino and the Clintons were not white, this simple fact would be obvious.
Posted by: c2 | April 2, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
I like the Richardson integrity, Your concience and your country should always be first.
Posted by: james | April 2, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Carville will sell his country for the Clintons just because they gave him a contract during their term in office..
Posted by: james | April 2, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Richardson is not only Judas but he is a liar and opprotunist! Even before the March 5 primaries he was on CNN hinting to Wolf Blitzer that he may endorse before the primaries and he left little doubt that it would be for Obama! He told Bill Clinton that if he did not endorse Hillary he would not make any endorcement until there was a clear winner! Two weeks prior to his endorsement he stoped taking Bill or Hillary’s call, so it was not just when he was on vacation! He could have stayed neutral but he put his finger in the proverable wind and made a selfish decesion to help himself and hurt a friend, in order to get the VP job. Well thanks to Carville and his branding him a Judas that possibilty no longer exist. If Obama does get the nomination and appoints him VP then that would be a rallying cry for all Clinton supporters to vote McCain! No thanks to Carville Richards deceipt has doomed his ambitions!
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
One guy be way ahead. It’s TRUE. It may be sad for some, but it is still true.
Hills has to win each and every state BIG TIME just to catch up to Obama in the elected delegates.
For starters if she wins PA with by 20 points, she nets 15-16 more delegates than O. That’s all. And then she’ll be down by 145 with 9 contests left with just over 400 delegates up for grabs.
So Ya, One Candidate is way out front.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Richardson is an opportunist and not a very bright one. His performance in the debates was pitiful. If he were smart, he would have kept his mouth shut and stayed neutral.
Posted by: tiffany | April 2, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
I think its insulting to Hispanic Americans. Bill Richardson served Bill Clinton well, because it was his duty to the president and not to Hilary Clinton. What bothers me is, Bill Richardson is not the only person in the Clinton campaign to support Obama, but I think the problem is, the Clintons think Richardson is their slave because he is a minority. Because during their administration they didn’t have any loyalty to anyone whose last name isn’t Clinton, they have no idea of loyalty, not to the democratic party or to the idea of loyalty
Posted by: brenda | April 2, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
russell,
if you wish to vote for Hillary then, by all means, do so. Is it really necessary to put the other people down who do not share your view? You chose to ignore all of Hillary’s faults because you still believe that she is the best candidate, that’s fine. Can you at least respect those who choose to do the same for their candidate?
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
This Behavior is one reason dems don’t win presidential elections. They never exhibit loyalty to their own, then how can the American people expect anything different towards them.
Hillary 08
Posted by: mahesh | April 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
The Commander Guy: Nither he or Hillary can win the nomination without the Superdelegates, and thats the truth! I would not call less than 200 delegates and less than 1% of the popular vote (excluding FL and MI) way out front! If Obama is going to win he is going to have to have some affirmative action to get across the finish line! If this were winner take all like in November then Hillary would have this wraped up, but thanks to Jesse Jackson we have invented a system that at the end of all the primaries no winner can be declared! Only Democrats could devise such a system,no wonder we can’t win!
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
When it comes to the Superdelegates, the clinton campaign insists that they should support who they think will actually win the GE and be a better President. But, when one decides it’s actually Obama, then they wonder why they are not endorsing based on past relationships.
When the race started, Hillary had all the establishment support and way more superdelagates than anyone else in the race. But, as the race went on, naturally some started supporting other candidates as well. That’s why we have elections. That’s why it’s a race. No one is entitled to the position of Presidency. As for Bill’s question, Obama would have long been forced out if he had lost 11 states in a row, and was mathematically unlikely for him to win. C’mon really, would she be allowed to run this far if she was not Clinton? She is just been given the benefit of the doubt because she is a Clinton. So, lets not try to paint this whole thing as if she is the underdog or any of that sort.
Posted by: Jo | April 2, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
LOM Criticizes:”One guy is way ahead and represents a change from the same old same old.”
Then LOM say “Can someone please outline the change that Americans can expect with an Obama presidency?”
Maybe one reason is that people are tired of the 51% elecoral strategy where you divide the country in waring camps, grab the bigger half, and screw the remaining 49%.
Maybe another reason is that after 16 years of this approach some folks have had enough.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
@Surelock:
Fink comes to mind, but hey, this is a presidential election and Richardson picked the horse he thinks will gain him the most political influence. Obama is weak on foreign policy and legislation and needs Bill Richardson to make up for his own experience-deficit. Carville is being Carville but I like him. No BS; just venom.
Get ready to rumble all the way to the August. The floor fights will be spectacular!! This makes Survivor look scripted. ;-)
I am looking forward to it.
Posted by: len | April 2, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
The Clintons have chilled hearts and heated tempers.
Posted by: greg | April 2, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
ddpwoman: Except for Judas Richardson who am I disrespecting? Did I call you out and disrespect you? No! I like Carville call them like I see them, if thats what you say is disrespect then all the comments that are made by you and other about Bill and Hillary Clinton which are often put in the most vulgar terms are to be interpreted as some crazy form of ederment! You have the right to your opinion and I and Carville have a right to ours! You see this is America and thats what democracy is all about!
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
The cluelessness and whining of the Hillary supporters on this board does help explain the fact that she lost this race.
Maybe if you guys actually had a positive reason grounded in reality to vote for your candidate, beyond loyalty and name recognition, you might have won this thing.
Your pathetic whining at this stage of the race wins you no favor, nor does your idiotic threats to vote for McCain. Justice Stevens is 87, McCain has awful healthcare, iraq, and economic plans, and you all are going to throw Obama under the bus out of spite? Absolutely Pathetic.
Posted by: Tom | April 2, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Vannessa: Maybe Obama could run next time and when he does he could leave Rev Wright and Michelle home, or at least waite unitl they start loving america!
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
if bho had been treated like hillary in the media there would be a race war. bashing the clintons has always been considered okay. however, if you ask the presidential biographers and experts, he is considered one of the most effective, intelligent presidents in history.
there is a place for loyalty. Richardson would be nothing save for clinton. bho said he was loyal to wright and stood up saying he would not denounce him…a racist, hate monger(i would sugget you fact check with info on the church web site, but it has been edited. oh yea, wright was also a keynote speaker last year at a group that wants reparations for the decendents of slaves!)or his poor dead grandmother he labelled racist on national tv after she raised him(nice fellow).
regarding carville. he and begalla wrote a phenomonal book on how demacrats can win the election. the strategies, points, reframing of issues to change the rhetoric the republicans always get away, with was awesome.
lastly, bho won on the back of the 90% black vote. the other numbers almost all split 60-40 or 40-60 or there abouts. however, this group that put him on top, IS A GIVEN FOR THE DEMOCRATS. WE ALWAYS GET THE BLACK VOTE. so his wins are using a tradition voting block with 90%. to win in november, if the nomonee, he will need large numbers of other blocks…including hillary supporeters. those groups will not flock to him in large enough numbers for him to win.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
To obama supporter James who says “your conscience and your country must always be first”
too bad he does not apply the same standard to obama as he sat listening to racist anti-American rant for twenty years
Or maybe James is applying the same standard which would mean obama is a confirmed racist and anti American
Either james is a hypocrite or obama is a racist anti american . My bet is on the latter.
Posted by: mahesh | April 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Carville needs to go back to Louisianna and retire.
Millions of voters, like me, are tired of the politics that he practices ->personal destruction, polarization, lies, spin, etc.
The tide is turning…
Posted by: MarkS | April 2, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Choosing personal loyalty over personal convictions is the same type of litmus test used by Republicans. I continue to believe that the Clintons and their “ilk” behave just like Republicans. In fact, I believe the current Republican behaves more like a Democrat than the Clintons do…Not in politics but in respecting his opponent and not engaging in “us vs. them” personal attacks….
Posted by: Indy_Voter | April 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
To all those holier than thou that never changed their minds, I believe that Govenor Richardson has every right to support any acndidate that he deems fit for teh Presidency of the US. Yes, he was offered a position in the Clinton Administration, but that does not bond him to Bill and Hillary for life. People, stop your insane puerility and let’s focus on defeating John McCain in the fall. What’s
more important is who do we want to nominate Justices to sit on the bench of the Supreme Court?
Posted by: dereck | April 2, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Vanessa: Are those the same polls that said she would lose CA,TX,OH,NH. You like to quote polls but you dismiss them when you are behind or they are wrong! When all the votes are counted in PA I think you will be singing a different tune!
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Obama is not the one losing.
Hillary is.
She losing Penn with 3 weeks to go
This state was designed for her and she’s LOSING???
thats a definite red flag
If she loses Penn…
The race is over the next day.
SDs will either flock to Obama side or her own advisors will tell her to step down.
Great Day
Posted by: Vanessa | April 2, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
yes the tide is changing mark, to racist, hate filled, unamerican, rhetoric..by the candidate, his wife, his paster, etc.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
About Richardson’s new comments,as my mom used to say, “he made his bed, now he needs to lay in it.”
Personally, I like Shakespeare myself – he protests too much! If I knew more Shakespeare I’m sure I could find a villain brought down by being two faced, disloyal, petty, a weasel.
Posted by: s. valenti | April 2, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Hillary supporters and Obama supporters – to say that if the candidate of your choice doesn’t win the nomination you’ll then vote for McCain – you’ll be diggin’ your own grave. Stop with the temper tantrums already. Have you forgotten that McCain is a republican and a warmonger at that. Part of the reason our economy is in the litterbox is because of this damn Iraq war that is costing this country trillions of dollars. There goes health care, there goes jobs, there goes education, all of it down the tubes if McCain is elected. On the other hand, if you don’t care what happens to this country and just want to “hurt” the democrat you don’t support but who gets the nomination then you deserve exactly what you get. People like you shouldn’t be allowed to vote because you’re acting like two-year-olds and not really caring what happens to our country. Revenge voting is really, really stupid.
Posted by: brenna | April 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
When did Richardson actually campaign on a platform of ethical behavior – when did he really campaign at all? Perhaps he did not win any significant support during the nomination race because he did not have the gusto, drive and endurance that we Americans want in our President. It is obvious that McCain, Clinton and Obama are in this to win. What’s in it for Richardson?
He says he had a tortured decision. OK, why not before Texas, when he could have helped the most. Why then endorse at that particular moment? It is clear that he wanted to be a tipping-point endorser to signal other Super Delegates to come to the Obama side en masse; that obviously did not happen. He played his hand and it didn’t work – hey that’s politics. Had he convinced the other Supers to go along, he could have been viewed as a kingmaker, but now, he just seems a little pathetic with the new op-ed pieces trying to explain his decision. Simply put, it was a political move to help advance his standing and it failed.
So now, Richardson is just another number in the delegate tally. He needs remember that Obama (the one he supported) is running and not him, so he better move the story back to Obama. He lost the nomination and it looks like he is losing the Veepstakes, so he might as well do something useful in the campaign. He needs to start acting like a statesman rather than trying to convince the American people that he had all the best intentions in his endorsement – he just comes off as a nervous defendant on the witness stand or, in other words, a Judas.
Posted by: smartprimate | April 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Good news again.
Another big fish for Barack Obama. Today he’ll pick up the endorsement of Lee Hamilton, who besides being a former Congressman from Indiana — a state with an important primary still to be held — was also the top Democrat on the 9/11 Commission and a co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Mr. Hamilton said he viewed Mr. Obama, from neighboring Illinois, as a champion of ‘’the politics of consensus and not of partisan division.”
‘’I think he is driven by the search for the common good,’’ added Mr. Hamilton, who is not a superdelegate but who remains influential and popular in the Hoosier State.
Posted by: greg | April 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
I’m not thrilled with Obama, and Hilliary and especially McCain are nuts. I’m begginning to wonder why I should even bother to vote. ALL the canidates favor more war in some way, more entitlement spending, and more “taxes” be it for the enviroment, war, or to print money to give the investment class a bailout for their predatory speculation, while everybody else’s cost of living goes up thanks to the inflation. This recession has a real chance of becoming a depression in the fiscal sense. If our next President increases spending in the ways they have propsed, our economy, will make Russia and Japan’s economiic collapse, seem pale by comparison.
Posted by: cba | April 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Vanessa: Who are you trying to convince me or you?
Posted by: russell | April 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Has anyone noticed that the mainstream media in the past few days seems to be picking up the Obama insinuation that Clinton is responsible for spreading the Wright story. Don’t let this perception go unaddressed. This story surfaced and was promoted for months by FOX News and the mainstream media knows it.
Obama just doesn’t want to take the heat that he’s getting and will continue to get for demeaning the Clinton White House years.
Posted by: s. valenti | April 2, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
It be Ovah.
Hills has to win each and every state BIG TIME just to catch up to Obama in the elected delegates.
If she wins PA with by 20 points, she nets just 15-16 more delegates than O. That’s all.
And then if she can do that she’ll be down by 145 with 9 contests left with just over 400 delegates up for grabs.
It Ovah.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
It’s really sad to see these Hillary deadenders. Obama has already moved on to the general election. Sure he’s campaigning in the states that are remaining, but he doesn’t need wins in them to secure his victory. That’s why for the last week he hasn’t mentioned Hillary and has gone after McCain. The Hillary campaign now is solely about her “viability,” which is not a rationale for winning the presidency.
Posted by: Tom | April 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
I wonder if Rep. Hamilton is familiar with Axelrod/Obama’s stalking horse, Deval Patrick, the Governor of Massachusetts. People had high hopes for this inexperienced politician when he ran 18 months ago on a platform of “change”, “hope” and “yes, we can”. Well, 15 months into the job, it’s “No, I can’t” – can’t work EVEN with a democratically controlled legislature – much less cross the aisle for support of the centerpiece of his economic stimulus plan. His centerpiece – casino gambling (YUCK). When it was clear it wasn’t going to pass, he didn’t even stick around to thank his surrogates or get debriefed. He was too busy packing for a trip to New York to shop around his autobiography. Expect it to be brief. He has no hope of re-election. At least as governor, he can’t make any fatal mistakes or those that have international repercussions -like the president can. People need to look more closely before they support Obama – untested and inexperienced.
Posted by: s. valenti | April 2, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Bill Clinton: “Be fair to her….like I was.”
Posted by: Greta | April 2, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
When Carville called the good Richardson that name it reminded me of what I thought of Carville and his long face and long ears and his venom,coming across like the biblical figure–and I had thought to myself then, he lacked only the hook-tail and the pitch-fork.
Posted by: TK | April 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Richardson wasn’t drinking kool-aid when he was running against Obama. We can see how phony he is. That is why his words are meaningless too.
Posted by: geevill | April 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
I’m struck by all these Baby Boomer MALE senators who are so eager to jump on Obama’s bandwagon. Richardson (who with that beard is looks like he’s channeling Pavarotti) said something to the effect that it’s time for a new generation. Why would all these guys be so willing to step aside? I know that they think they still have much to offer – three of them thought they had so much to offer that they ran for President; Kerry, Dodd, Richardson. Maybe support for Obama is THEIR midlife crisis! Go get a convertible guys! There won’t be any repercussions for the rest of us. That is unless you ask Ted Kennedy to drive.
Posted by: nana | April 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
While Obama is evaporating Clintons lead in Penn and now leads by +2.
Obamas lead in NC remains large +18
He also gains a key endorsement from Indiana today
Posted by: Vanessa | April 2, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
bho won his states on the back of the 90% black vote. the other sub-groups numbers almost all split between 60-40 or 40-60 or there abouts. however, this group that put him on top, IS A GIVEN FOR THE DEMOCRATS. WE ALWAYS GET THE BLACK VOTE. so his state wins are using a traditional voting block with 90%. to win in november, if the nominee, he will need large numbers of other blocks…including hillary supporters. those groups will not flock to him in large enough numbers for him to win. the vile postings of the bho voteres has ensured that.
he is agead in the primary using the votes ANY democrat always gets. no other group will flock blindly to him in such mass.
i will remain, “clinton supporter for mccain”.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
No one owes “the Clintons” anything. They are the ones who should be grateful for the time America already gave them in the White House. Talk about nerve.
Posted by: Nobodys fool | April 2, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Vanessa,
You just don’t get it. Obama is unelectable regardless of what the polls say. Push polls. Silly little push polls. Can’t wait until April 22nd.
And Richardson is Judas. Perhaps he can get some counseling from the good Rev. Wright.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
dream on bho supporters. like it or not, this country does not want a black president.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
OBAMA IS OUR SAVIOR. Barak and Reverend Wright are Right, God D*** america. Now is the time to rally around Barak and Michelle and make them proud! No more so called elections where typical white people vote, blacks have been held down too long! And news flash america, Barak is right, your typical white american is a racist! Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for arrogant american policies of hate and slavery. Only Obama can forgive an evil nation founded on slavery. REPARATIONS NOW!
Posted by: Cowbell | April 2, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
fedup,
You’re wrong.
Explain to me, how you’ll explian to AAs how their candidate is winning in pledge delegates, states, and popular vote… yet their candidate loses.
It’s not going to happen.
Al Sharpton or whatever his name is will make a BIG deal of this.
AAs will follow his lead and the democratic party will lose it’s #1 demographic
It’s not going happen… and that is what I believe Nancy Pelosi was speaking of.
The backlash
Hillary Clinton won’t get the nomination.
So I believe its best if Hillary supporters start acknowledging this fact and move on.
AA= African Americans
Posted by: Vanessa | April 2, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
The Commander Guy said: “One guy is way ahead and represents a change from the same old same old.
The other is way behind and is a blast from the past.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to make the call here.”
Are you kidding? Having Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, Leahy, etc. pulling the strings of a President Obama would represent “Change”???
Posted by: cappamore | April 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Richards is LUCIFER not JUDAS. He was enticed with vice presidential post. Obama is DECEITFUL, CALCULATING AND DISHONEST. He sends his ATTACK DOGS — DODD, LEAHY, RICHARDSON — and then tell us that Hillary can remain in the race as long as she wants. What a HYPOCRITE. He wants to change Washington but CODDLES CORRUPTION in Illinois and in particular indicted slumlord, Rezko. He gives scripted speeches, on RACE but does not say anything on HATRED perpetuated by his pastor, Wright. Obama not only failed to denounce racists and vile sermons of his pastor but also subjected his children to them. WHERE IS HIS JUDGEMENT which he has made a CRUCIAL part of his presidency. He surrounds himself with American flags but do not respects them. He does not sing Allegiance to the Flag nor puts hands to his heart. He copies everything that hillary does on economics and defense. HE IS GOOD ONLY TO GIVE SCRIPTED SPEECHES and has nothing to show for his PERFORMANCE or ACHIEVEMENTS. Obama and his wife, Michelle, are influenced by their pastor, Wright, this is evident from their words and actions when Michelle says that she was not proud of America until her adult life and that American is MEAN.
Posted by: UTWO | April 2, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
cappamore wants change I see.
People don’t want a third Clinton term after 2 bush terms because they want change. They want the third clinton term so they can go back to the future.
But it don’t really matter anymore because this race is OVER.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
fedup,
you said, “dream on bho supporters. like it or not, this country does not want a black president.”
As an African-American mother with three very bright, very hard working, African-American sons, that statement really worries me.
As an African-American sister with an African-American brother who served in the military, that statement really angers me.
As an African-American woman with the power to choose the statement really pushes me.
It pushes me to prove that our country is much greater than the America you have described.
It pushes me to vote for Obama.
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
OBAMA IS WINNING IN SMALL STATES ONLY BECAUSE OF BLACK VOTE. LEAVE ASIDE THE BLACK VOTE AND SEE IF HE IS WINNING? LIBERAL PRESS HAS LOST ALL RESPECT AND INTEGRITY FOR JOURNALISM. THEY ARE ACTING LIKE LITTLE PUPPIES OF OBAMA SUCKING AT EVERY MORSEL THAT FALLS FROM HIS MOUTH. SCRIPTED SPEECHES WILL NOT SOLVE OUR NATIONS PROBLEMS. OBAMA HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING FOR THE BLACK, HISPANIC COMMUNITY OR FOR ANY OTHER CAUSE. HOW CAN WE EXPECT HIM TO ANYTHING IF HE IS ELECTED A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE? IF BLACK COMMUNITY IS VOTING FOR OBAMA BASED ON RACE, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN, THEN WHY SHOULDN’T THE OTHER COMMUNITY DO THE SAME?
Posted by: UTO | April 2, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
What a bunch of phonies. Why hasn’t Dodd retired? Leahy? Kennedy? Daschle had to be thrown out by the voters.
Posted by: geevill | April 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
who really cares
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
ddpwoman, I understand exactly what you’re saying and want you to know that Obama won’t get my vote – but the color of his skin has absolutely nothing to do with it. Our country is in serious trouble and he’s inexperienced. I’ve researched his background in both the Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate. He isn’t prepared for the job. I cannot vote for him. I hope you and other African Americans will be able to understand that many people who vote against him do so for this very same reason.
I was proud of the Democratic party when I watched the debates and saw a Hispanic, African American, and woman amongst the candidates. The Republican debates had the same white men we always see. But if I vote for Obama simply to make a statement of progress, then I am being influenced by skin color – and that’s just plain wrong and not a good reason to cast a vote.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 2, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Nobody is whinning the media just needs to keep every body at each other when are we going to wake up and stop being led by the lies. They are laughing at us all the way to the bank they are just like any other actor’s on TV. Maybe that’s why the bible say’s becareful what you see and hear how can we let them put such hate in are hearts.
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
You should also research what McCain and Hillary have done in the senate, not much. So what do all these guys do.
Posted by: jj | April 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
vanessa, if you re-look at my post, i said in the general election, in the fall, the black vote will not put him over the edge because the black vote is already in the 40ish% who are always democrats(like the 40% of population always voting republican). what he needs for NOVEMBER, is the % increase in his “given” 40% to beat mccain. those are the numbers he will not have.
ddpwoman, there is NO question in my mind that you did NOT have to be pushed to vote bho,like the other 90% black bloc. thegeneral populous will not be pleased with reverend wright, et.al., or bho’s visible lack of patriotic display(pledge of allegiance, hand over heart), or his wife’s comments, or his injection of race, or so many other things that will not sit well with many americans. the mere fact you call yourself AA shows a need to be separate. this is our country, and beyond first generations we are AMERICANS! not euro-americans, or asian americans, or indian americans, etc., most people are proud to be AMERICANS.
kudos to you and your family, but that is not what america sees. watch the news with black on black crime, drop out rates, etc. there should be little surprise that i speculate the country is not ready, especially the first time a black man runs.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
HoosierSue,
thank you. I completely respect your reasons for your choice.
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
we might as well give bho the nomination. then,
he will run,
he will loose, a
and he will be gone.
Posted by: fedup | April 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
That’s water under the bridge. Richardson or Judas made his choise – pile on your friend when they needed you most.
He has made his choice, let him live with it. He sold out. Don’t need to explain his choice.
looks like his conscience is bugging him.
Posted by: SO1 | April 2, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
That’s water under the bridge. Richardson or Judas made his choice – pile on your friend when they needed you most.
He has made his choice, let him live with it. He sold out. Don’t need to explain his choice.
looks like his conscience is bugging him.
Posted by: SO1 | April 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Richardson lies to the voters of NM, why would he tell the truth to Bill Clinton? To paraphrase Geffen, Richardson, Clinton and Obama are all extremely good liars.
Posted by: Sluggo | April 2, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
The Commander Guy — I’m not criticizing anything. I am specifically asking anyone who is willing to specifically and honestly answer the question as to how Obama “is way ahead and represents a change from the same old same old.”
How can you claim that Obama is doing anything other than a 51/49 strategy for this primary? Actually, what he has effectively done is created a 64/36 strategy for a general election that favors McCain. How is that for unification?
It’s getting old for folks to claim he will bring about change and a new kind of politics for Washington and then lack ANY kind of specifics as to how he intends to accomplish that.
His policies are very much aligned with Clinton’s so how is that change? He has shown how well he brings people together by that fact he is equally responsible for splitting the democratic vote roughly 50/50.
Posted by: LOM | April 2, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
If MI and FL had been able to count like IOWA, NH, NV, and SC who all went ahead we would not be talking about this. To seat them after the Obama is crowned is unfair He could have let them have a re-vote that is why the 15,000,000 who have voted for Hillary will not vote for Obama and there are no where that many new dems or independents to make up a the loss plus count on the people who always vote in the GE only and are mad who will also vote for MCcain he will not only win but he will win big like Regan did when Carter and Kennedy took it to the floor in 80. To think nothing could be worked out is just bs a re-vote should have been done
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Tom wrote:
“Your pathetic whining at this stage of the race wins you no favor, nor does your idiotic threats to vote for McCain. Justice Stevens is 87, McCain has awful healthcare, iraq, and economic plans, and you all are going to throw Obama under the bus out of spite? Absolutely Pathetic.”
You are the reason why.. not out of spite. Obama can join his grandmother under the bus.
Posted by: Alan | April 2, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
fedup,
“ddpwoman, there is NO question in MY MIND that you did NOT have to be pushed to vote bho,like the other 90% black bloc”
That’s where you are wrong. You ASSUME that because I am black that I will automatically vote for a black candidate. If that were the case I would have voted for Keyes. I was not one of the black people who voted for Jesse Jackson. I voted for Bush in the last two general elections but I suppose you’ll find that difficult to believe also. As a matter of fact, I’ve never voted for a black candidate. Hmmm.. could it be because I’m racist? Of course not. I am looking at the issues just like I hope you are. Obama being black is not my reason for voting for him but it certainly isn’t going to push me away. But you really need to understand that the more you criticize the black voter, the more you insult all minorities and that will in no way help your candidate. Taut your candidates good points and stop worrying about the black vote. Black voters have been faithful to vote for candidates that don’t look like them and shame on you for trying to make them feel less patriotic for voting for someone who does. I don’t have to prove my loyalties to this country by refusing to vote for a black man. On the issues their is almost no difference between Obama and Hillary. I like the idea of a woman being president. I like the idea of a bi-racial man being president. Although I have a great deal of respect for McCain, I’m just not certain that this war will end as quickly as I wish it to with him as president. Our church has already lost someone to this war. As a mother it breaks my heart to see another woman cry over the loss of her son. I’m not voting AGAINST Hillary, or McCain. I am leaning towards Obama because from what I can tell at this point, amongst all of his flaws, he is the most sincere about where he wants to lead this country. Having said that, I can respect anyone for choosing to vote for someone else.
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Thank you, ddpwoman. Whatever happens this year, the real winners are our children who are seeing that race and gender won’t hold back their dreams of running for president or accomplishing anything else they set their hearts and minds to.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
@Bishop
“If MI and FL had been able to count like IOWA, NH, NV, and SC who all went ahead we would not be talking about this.”
DO count them now and see they make no difference: Obama STILL leads in the delgate count, popular votes and states won.
Check the lists at realclearpolitics if you simply refuse to believe it.
Posted by: greg | April 2, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
HoosierSue,
“Thank you, ddpwoman. Whatever happens this year, the real winners are our
children who are seeing that race and gender won’t hold back their dreams of running for president or accomplishing anything else they set their hearts and minds to.”
You are absolutely right about that.
God bless you,
Donna
HoosierSue
Posted by: ddpwoman | April 2, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Bill Richardson describes his decision to endorse Barack Obama as “difficult and painful” and being “truly torn.” How quaint…and misleading.
Richardson has a unique way of describing the behavior of a backstabber.
Here in the Midwest we would describe Richardson as disloyal, ungrateful, and lacking in moral fiber.
However Richardson choses to label his two-faced example of disloyalty, the name that is emerging, “Benedict Bill,” seems to best describe the character of anyone who would act in such a manner.
Posted by: Jayhawk | April 2, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
PPP reports:
Barack Obama has taken the lead in Pennsylvania, a remarkable turnaround after trailing Hillary Clinton by 26 points in a PPP poll in the state just two and a half weeks ago.
Obama’s steep rise could be a reflection of a growing sense among Democratic voters that a continued divisive nomination process will hurt the party’s chances of defeating John McCain this fall. An Obama upset in Pennsylvania would be virtually certain to force Clinton out of the race.
Obama has his customary large advantage with black voters (75-17) and is keeping it relatively competitive with white voters (49-38)
He leads across all age groups except senior citizens and balances Clinton’s 10 point lead with women with his own 15 point lead with men.
Posted by: boras | April 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Boras:
You need to consult more than one poll. As with other Obama information, your post is misleading.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey (April 1, 2008) in Pennsylvania shows Clinton leading Barack Obama by five percentage points, 47% to 42%.
More importantly, Rasmussen Reports poll shows if Obama is nominated, just 56% of Clinton supporters say they are likely to vote for him against John McCain.
Forty percent (40%) of Clinton voters in Pennsylvania say they are not likely to vote for Obama.
No matter how he performs in the primary, McCain would win over Obama in the general election, which is what it is all about…unless you are just another Obama fan.
Posted by: Jayhawk | April 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
It will still be sad for Richardson no matter who wins the primary, everybody knows now that he is not to be trusted.
Posted by: Liz | April 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
It is very possible that ‘Judas’ will become Richardson’s first name for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Beth | April 2, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Rasmussen today Clinton 50 Obama41 in pa
April 2
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Quinpaq 50 Clinton Obama 41 in PA just released
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Alan,
Obama, like Judas Richardson, is fundamently flawed.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Given that Bill Clinton was not particularly loyal to Hillary, why does he expect Richardson to show unflinching loyalty to her?
Just a bit hypocritical, if you ask me.
Posted by: fjfjdvdv | April 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Greg, I really don’t care how many states a person wins I am saying if you would have counted FL and MI. people IMO would have thought this whole process was legitimate.
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
no name:
And you wonder why Clinton supporters would not support Obama in the general election?? With this kind of speech, it will never happen.
Think, you cannot win alone.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Liz: I think your logic is backwards. Now everyone knows that Richardson can be trusted.
Posted by: disambiguates | April 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Bill Clinton is the gift that keeps on giving — to Obama.
Posted by: Howard B. | April 2, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Jayhawk: If putting your loyalty to your country over loyalty to your former boss’s wife is an example of “backstabbing” or of “lacking moral fiber,” then Richardson clearly is guilty. I’ve never been much of a Richardson fan, but his stock shot way up after he broke ranks and did what was RIGHT.
Posted by: Howard B. | April 2, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
It’s unfortunate for Richardson because the reality is anyone who hires him now, wether it be Obama or whomever will always question his loyalty.
Posted by: mona | April 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
“It ended with him asking delegates to imagine what the reaction would be if Obama was trailing by just 1 percent”
Where are the Clinton people getting this 1 percent number from? I also recall seeing a Clinton surrogate mention it on CNN. CNN lists Obama at 1,626 delegates and Clinton at 1,486–that breaks down to 52% vs. 48%. Even if you take the margin of delegates and divide that by the total delegates (including unpledged supers and elected delegates), that’s still 140/4049 = 3%.
I know the Clintons have a complex relationship with the truth, so that might have something to do with it… Anyone else have any ideas on this?
Posted by: Ben | April 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
This is well planned out, James Carvel degrades Bill Richardson with a negative biblical commit, (to get to any one that is of a Christian religion)— Ed Rendell tell everyone that “Fox News” is really the only fair and balanced news covering Hillary ( if you listen to they are really in a Obama bashing mode).
They do anything to win!!! For they believe that that all fair in politics. What kills me is that loyalist they actually believe them.
Posted by: GHM | April 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I’d suspected Richardson would formally endorse Obama ever since the first contest when his Iowa caucus precinct captains guided Richardson’s voters over to Obama. What was amusing to me in Richardson’s recent oped was the way Gov. Richardson defended his loyalty to country. Carville called Richardson a “Judas”, which is a whole lot different than calling him a Benedict Arnold!
Posted by: Jude Nagurney Camwell | April 2, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
With friends like the Clintons, Hmmm! In my humble and unbiased opinion, I think Bill Richardson did the right thing – National interest should always trump loyalty to ones friends.
It’s funny how people keep making the argument that Bill Richardson owes the Clintons for giving him an opportunity to serve his nation. The real truth is that, to be an effective and a successful president as Bill Clinton was, he needed intelligent and dedicated people in his administration -people like Bill Richardson. He could not govern the country successfully with mediocre administration. Need any proof, look at George W. Bush. Therefore, on the contrary, I think Bill Clinton actually owes his success to good people in his administration, including Bill Richardson.
The truth is that if Bill Richardson wasn’t loyal to the Clintons, he would have opted to throw his support to Obama’s campaign prior to the primary elections in Texas, Nevada and other stats with large Latino population to garner Obama more Latino votes. But instead he waited until afterwards, and for that, I personllay respect him and believe what he’s an honarable man.
Posted by: KC | April 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Hmmm?? Take another look. Dated today:
The Public Policy Polling group offers a stunning result: Barack Obama leading in Pennsylvania by 2. And it isn’t a poll of adults, or small sample size, either: “PPP surveyed 1224 likely Democratic primary voters on March 31st and April 1st. The survey’s margin of error is +/- 2.8%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed nd weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.”
Posted by: wly34 | April 2, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
There were two Judases with Jesus. Why do we only remember the bad one?
Posted by: Gaias Child | April 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Bill Richardson did what he thought was the right thing in making his endorsement. It’s exactly what he should have done: considered what he honestly thought was best for the country, regardless of the personalities. The reaction of James Carville and Bill Clinton speaks for itself. You can tell what kind of standards another Clinton administration would bring: either do what’s good for the Clintons personally or hit the road!
Posted by: Tom in California | April 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Rusmussen Clinton47 Obama 42
Quinnipac Clinton 50 Obama41
Posted by: Bishop | April 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Bill Richardson should just own his decision to support Obama and leave it at that.
James Carville and his “ilk” are the reason Bill Clinton got elected and how Richardson got prestigious cabinet positions.
Namby pamby and too politically correct comes to mind whenever I hear Richardson’s name mentioned. Opportunistic also is right up there.
The revisionist history from Richardson is also interesting. Before he was bragging that he didn’t return calls to the Clintons for weeks, and now he claims that he was on vacation and didn’t know anyone was trying to reach him. Which story is it Bill?
Posted by: sherr | April 2, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
seriously….. who does Richardson owe is “loyalty” over and beyond his country?
the Clintons? are you crazy?
Posted by: drzoon | April 2, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Interesting that Richardson would complain because Carville is simply using the Obama/Dean/MoveOn playbook.
Regarding such,I hope the blog owner will allow me to correct a bit of misinformation regarding “the playbook”.
I have stated on here that I would not post anything that was not factual, when “the fact is’ I apparently did make a sub-conscious substitution. I have posted the book title: “Burning at the Grass Roots: Inside the Dean Machine” ridiculously posting my friend’s name as the author, as he “sullenly” informed me yesterday ( the names are the same except 1 letter)…..Going to cost me a bottle of “single-malt”. The correct name of the author is Dana Dunnan, not Duncan as I had posted at some earlier time. The site can be found at “Burning at the Grass Roots .com”. Can’t put a link on here.
Dunnan was part of the Dean/MoveOn movement (working the press, “spying”, posing in Kerry crowds, asking questions to “trip Kerry up”, such as one regarding Malcolm X (ironically). The author says Kerry would later, when asked by a child to name his heroes, first cite his supporter Max Cleland, then Christopher Reeves, and Mother Teresa, all for their inspiration to others in rising above their adversity. Then he states that as Kerry did so, he (Dunnan)was struck by how Kerry was describing Dunnan’s own vision of Malcolm X’s life. And intrigued that Kerry’s heroes were all white folk (authors term). He implies that he saw that as a “weak spot” for Kerry, and one to be expolited if he could do it in front of cameras and the right crowd. He goes on to aver that people asked him about civil rights and he waffled for minutes without answering. Dunnan says that politicians should always have a pat answer on civil rights in their head.. That Dean did!
Dunnan says his effort was aimed at getting Kerry to commit a gaffe of the magnitude of Dean’s Confederate flag controversy . Dunnan then laments that if he(Dunnan) had been black, surrounded by a black audience in South Carolina (certainly has a familiar ring, does it not), he would have fared differently in his effort to trip Kerry up. He says what Kerry did (re the Malcolm X question) was try to be another white guy talking about race- he just couldn’t figure out how to do it.
He talks in another chapter about how Wesley Clark (“a general threat”) had to be minimized.and states that given a chance to bird-dog Clark and work the media, the author (Dunnan) jumped all over it, and cultivated his own “press scrum”, to Clark’s consternation and detriment.
Among the many reflections, he points out how over-reliance on youth, as well as ignoring the wisdom of veterans doomed the Dean campaign, stating overconfidence of campaign workers often just out of college proved a factor in the campaign’s downfall. How the Dean campaign hit a wall after loss in NH., the kids from the Portsmouth office were told that they wouldn’t get paid anymore, and the emotional reverberations of the New Hampshire loss wreaked havoc on the campaign.
I find it very interesting that author points out that Dean claimed that he was the only white candidate talking about race, and that they planned to definitely capture the African-American, senior citizen, and the youth vote. The “Dean/MoveON/Obama machine has the majority of two of the three this time, but has for the most part driven away the third.
Dunnan apparently is still a part of the “machine”. He started the book by talking about finding a “Lincoln”(apparently Dean), then later talks about Kerry being compared to Lincoln stature wise, and has since added a “footnote” saying they have finally found their “Lincoln”, and “this time it is not a tall white man”. He held a book signing for Obama’s 2004 Senate campaign.
As I have stated before, I would never have imagined that a “far-left”, Rovian, type playbook existed until I found this book. If you just read the “chapter summaries” and the Kerry sample chapter, while mentally substituting Obama for Dean and Clinton for Kerry, you will be amazed at the mirror of the present primary. You will definitely wonder why Kerry and Theresa are “hooked up” with Obama considering their treatment by this “machine”, and hopefully ask yourself how Dean could so smoothly pass the MoveOn/Youth alliance to Obama, while at the same time heading the DNC. But you will have no trouble seeing “why”. The why is a desire to “root out the old party”, replacing it with “theirs”, establish a self-perpetuating “movement” that will equal the “far-right” in its desire to hold power indefininately, and a deep disdain for anything Clinton (which explained the viciouoness).
Read the summaries, the sample chapter, and explore the site. Buy the book if you can get it cheap enough that you don’t put too much money in their coffers. I bought my copy for 92cents new.
Posted by: MC | April 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Bible interpretation is full of misreadings.
Judas was the only apostle who understood the divine destination of Christ: his death at the cross. His kiss is the kiss of the truest follower.
Judas is the hand of God in the biography of Jesus Christ.
So – Carville still had it wrong.
Posted by: hetra | April 2, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Rev. Wright’s James Cone says: “The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people.”
“All white men are responsible for white oppression. ”
“Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil.’”
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Cowbell | April 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
People asked a few blogs ago why Richardson was not protrayed as a traitor when he himself ran for president. He was just an IDIOT then for thinking he could actually win. Now you can just call him Judas.
Posted by: echo | April 2, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Let me tell you about polls. Whom do you think takes most of these polls. The ones that are on the internet the most. That would be young adults, white professionals and college kids.
Your average working person whom is middle-aged(especially the working woman or the older woman ) doesn’t even use the computer that much.
Your blue collar workers: truck drivers, industrial workers, laborers, etc. ….they are probably never taking these polls, let alone being on the computer to even find these polls.
The polls are so inaccuarte it isn’t even funny.
The polls reflect only a few of the voters, and to be honest, probably not even Hillary’s base.
Posted by: mary | April 2, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
from swimming freestyle:
“Barack Obama’s election to the presidency in November would put a serious crimp in Bill Clinton’s power, influence and resulting earnings. Obama and his Administration would, by virtue of their position, become the de facto leaders of the Democratic Party. Bill and Hillary Clinton will continue to be powerful forces in the Party, but the bulk of that power shifts from the Clinton’s to the new guys in town. They become a good deal less marketable.
One can understand why the thought of losing all that might make Bill Clinton a little grumpy.”
Posted by: Jay McDonough | April 2, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
MC writes:
“they have finally found their “Lincoln”, and “this time it is not a tall white man”"
Posted by: Navarro | April 2, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I am getting to the point where I enjoy reading the comments more then the story. It is great that some of you are so deeply committed to your choice. But so many are making their choices on sound bites they hear or what they hear second hand. Some don’t like Obama because of what his pastor at the church he attends said. Myself being one of these who has in their life heard something a friend or someone they knew say something that they would never say or support yet never speak up against unless that for the fact they would be considered supporting that. Then we look at Clinton and some don’t like her because of her husband or how she has risen to the position her holds. Personal their views on many things are almost the same so for myself the choice of who might be right comes down to personal values. I would not be with my wife if more then once she had been rumored or proven to be unfaithful to the commitment we made to each other. I know you say love is blind but when someone stays with a person like that then becomes elected in a state they never really lived in but is an important state when it comes to electing our president it sends up a warning to me. I view a person like that as not someone who is really thinking of us middle class workers but as someone who has tasted power and is addicted to it and will do what ever it takes to stay in power thru others to take the blame if what they say strikes a nerve with us but plants the seed or their own actions.
Posted by: Average Person | April 2, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
“There’s something special about this guy,” Mr. Richardson said of Mr. Obama. “I’ve been trying to figure it out, but it’s very good.”
I have been trying to figure out what obam’ message is for last six months. And it’s upsetting to me too that he gets endorsements based on his debating himself on almost every issue. The only consistent message of his is that he is running for president.
Posted by: magda | April 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Navarro, The Lincoln quote you post is not mine.
If you read what I wrote, you would see that it is a statement, made by a Dean/MoveOn author.
It comes from Dana Duncan, an author/operative for Dean/MoveOn/Obama. You can check it for yourself at “Burning the Grass Roots.com”(the book).
I think you and any others will be surprised to find that the book is basically a Rovian type playbook re the 2004 campaign, Obama’s 2004 US Senate run, and the Obama campaign of today.
Posted by: MC | April 2, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Obama folks certainly do have assured and certain mentalities. Facts or no facts. They tell us everyday that it “is all over”. Obama leads, math defeats HRC, etc.
However, given all their certainty, I wish one, just one, anyone of them. Would answer these questions:
Please tell me (or us, Clinton dummies) the exact formula by which Obama turns his lead into a win. Obama definitely has a lead, no doubt about it!
You folks are always talking about the “math” against HRC. Please be good enough to tell us the equation by which Obama wins. I have no doubt you know, and are just keeping it a secret. Right?
Right now it seems that the only sure way would be for Hillary to “quit”, which you are all calling for to do to “save” Obama. Yet she is not going to do quit!
I thought Obama was the Democratic “savior”, why should he even need help?
Then all you Obama folks claim Obama won Texas caucuses. If he did we out here in Texas do not know that either. Maybe y’all actually mean “he has been projected” to win the Texas caucus votes by about 7.
Actually the caucus stuff “ain’t over yet”, will not be decided until June. JUNE, that is when the Texas Democratic convention convenes in Austin. Until then all is one more case of “speculation”.
Texas results will be decided then, and until then Obama has won nothing re Texas. Only HRC has, she won the popular vote, the only vote that is “official”, so far!
Until any one of you, or the BHO campaign, “produce” the formula for how Obama actually wins, then all of your bravdo is merely speculation and wishful thinking.
Posted by: MC | April 2, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Something is unholy and sinister and ugly about this Obama guy.
Posted by: Dragon | April 2, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
MC writes:
“Navarro, The Lincoln quote you post is not mine.”
Posted by: Navarro | April 2, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Did anyone see Hardball tonight. Chris Matthews was drooling, he should be benched for the entire campaign he is so pro-obama.
I wish he did not cherry pick issues and would have asked Obama about his votes in Illinois on prohibitting the bill to protect a child born alive of a partial birth abortion. Obama is more pro-choice than the NARL. His stances are so far left.
Then for him to say he wants Al Gore in his cabinet and says he talks to him each day. Nice digg.
Using the term “brother” today when fan was annoying him for a pic. So above race lines. I bet he and Michelle sit at home saying “will get all those cracka’s voting for us and then we will be sitting pretty in the white house”
Posted by: Lana | April 2, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Lana writes:
“Chris Matthews was drooling, he should be benched for the entire campaign he is so pro-obama.”
Posted by: Navarro | April 2, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
LOM
I see I owe you an answer. Will try to do such over the next couple of days.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 2, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Lana, I saw the Chris Mathews hardball with Obama. You must have been real blind not to see all those University Young Americans and Professors in love with Obama. Blame them for drooling over Obama. Hey, the simple fact is, Obama is 100 times a better candidate than Hillary the Liar and McCain the Moron. If you like Hillary, go vote for her. No one cares!!!
Posted by: Vena | April 2, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Governor Richardson did indeed promise Clinton his endorsement until Obama promised him a post in his cabinet.
Senator Obama wants to come across as a straight arrow but he has a poisoned tip.
There is something sinister, unholy, corrupt and ugly about Senator Obama and no matter how he tries to lie out of it, it can’t be changed. He will be a divider of people, not an uniter.
Posted by: Mary Holmes | April 3, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Team Clinton is going to be remembered for variations on a single line:
“Imagine what the reaction would be if Obama….”
It’s always the reverse-racism line. Always.
Posted by: Tom J | April 3, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am
I commend Richardson for choosing his endorsement based on what he feels right (the way it should be) and not based on friendship. His maturity is something that is apparently lacking on this board.
Posted by: choosing the lesser of evils | April 3, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am
“Governor Richardson did indeed promise Clinton his endorsement until Obama promised him a post in his cabinet”
That just doesnt make since considering Richardson was already a 2-time cabinet member for the Clinton administration and a friend of the family. Almost a shoe-in if you ask me.
Worst case I see him as simply jumping on the bandwagon of the person he sees winning before its too late.
Posted by: choosing the lesser of evils | April 3, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Obama supporters seem to hone in on his lead in convention delegates and the popular vote.
The problems remains that no candidate can win the White House by any other means than the electoral college, which Obama cannot win.
George W. Bush taught us that, or has it been that long that some cannot remember?
If you don’t agree, then consider the results of a recent (April 1) Rasmussen survey:
“If Obama is nominated, just 56% of Clinton supporters say they are likely to vote for him against John McCain. Forty percent (40%) of Clinton voters in Pennsylvania say they are not likely to vote for Obama.”
The same 40% of Clinton voters are the ones that would ensure an electoral loss for Obama in November.
If you really want to see what is going to happen in August at the convention, start reading about the 1968 Democratic Convention.
Perhaps that is why we are starting to hear more from Al Gore.
We can only hope.
Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
In 1968, the Democratic convention produced a presidential candidate that had not campaigned for the nomination.
In 2008, the Democratic convention will do the same.
Albert Gore…he’s coming!
Posted by: Jayhawk | April 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Richardson could have refrained from endorsing anyone. It was disloyal. Carville is right. People often use the Judas term to refer to betrayal just as Benedict Arnold is used in regard to being a traitor. Religion shouldn’t be dragged into this spat. Richardson’s umbrage is over the top. Clinton should forget him and never speak of him again. His endorsement is insignificant as are most. Voters should make up their minds independently of endorsements.
Posted by: Vivi | April 3, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Those of you complaining about what Carville told the media and what Bill told super-delegates, are really ignorant. I guess that’s why you’re not political strategists.
Look at the effect.
1. Richardson took a week off campaigning for Obama.
2. He’s now doing damage control instead of talking about Obama.
3. He’s damaged goods either way. He either lied or betrayed his longtime friends. Lose-Lose situation.
He’s smart enough to know what his endorsement meant and now he has to pay the political price. Pure genius, imo, by Carville and Bill.
Posted by: DavidO | April 3, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am