McCain Stumbles on Shiites v. Sunnis….Again

He’s even worse than George W., isn’t he?
Imagine what this man would mean for our country’s already devastated reputation in the world.
My o my.

If McCain is suppose to be an expert on Iraq, he needs to know the difference between Shiia, Sunni, and Al Qaeda.
Keeping on mixing them makes him look incompetent.

Sadam was from an obscure sect of Shi’ites. Could it be that McCain was comparing the current enemy with the one that has been defeated?
Could it be that Howard Dean just doesn’t know?
Could it be that all democrats lack the ability for civilized discourse?

Please Does anybody really feel right now like the United States of America could stand another 4 yrs. under an ignorant Republican President. He obviously wants to and has backed Bush in his policies so tell me how anything would get any better electing him to the white house instead of going with one of the candidates that are promising change.

To Derek
McCain is on record in hundreds of hearings talking about the sunnis as al queda and iran helping the shiites JAM in the south.
Look at his record.
McCain clearly knows the difference.
The media doesn’t talk about the thousands of times he gets the facts right.
The media doesn’t mention when obama mispeaks and calls the leader of canada the president of canada or when obama says 10,000 people died in a tornado in kansas
Hillary Clinton made numerous gaffes on pakistan calling it a shiite country but the media was silent.

Even conservative Pat Robertson (yesterday on MSNBC’s Verdict With Dan Abrams) is concerned about what he calls McCain’s numerous “senior moments” and said McCain has not aged well in the past few years. This does NOT bode well for the US if McCain is elected. Whether democrat or republican or whatever, we do need someone who is sharp and on the ball.

Sen. Obama is the only candidate to say that the U.S. should formally meet with these parties…perhaps if Sen. McCain had an actual meeting with these various factions he’d know who they are.
Can we afford a McCain slip at a time when he’s ready to launch an offensive and, in error says, strike Iran, when he means strike Iraq?

I think McCain misspoke….I’m sure Obama knows the difference between Iraq and Iran too….It’s the lack of coverage that is astounding.
Hit jobs in the newspapers and media outlets on a Clinton are perfectly acceptable..
Questioning Obama on his “trip to Pakistan” or his “confusion or Iraq and Iran” or his “spiritual mentor” are all off limits.
This is way over the top….lots of people not just women are noticing.

Folks, this thread is about MCCAIN!
Let’s support him by guiding him to a home for the elderly!
He has deserved a fine treatment!
Donate!

Spock, McCain’s campaign has admitted the “misspeak”, so your observation matters little.
What does matter, is McCain has a “cold-war” perspective on war and from the numerous “misspeaks” he has uttered, one could easily surmise that he groups all Muslims together as the enemy.
McCain is so set on “victory” in this war, he cares little for the ideologies that separate the various Muslim sects and the even the subtleties that separate the various clans of the Shia. My question I have asked more often than I can remember is who is this enemy? Since there is no answer to this question, our warmongering leaders will eventually focus on Iran to define the enemy, as we are already seeing. When we cannot define an enemy, let’s go find one. The PR machine is working hard for this.
What we have heard from the present administration:
• Iran has “malign” influence in Iraq
• Iran is equipping various militias in Iraq
• Iran has been secretly been developing enriched uranium for nuclear warheads
• Iran has taken a more imperialistic approach within the region
These arguments are put forth so that in the event our administration chooses to go to war with Iran, they will have already laid the groundwork necessary for Congress and the citizenry to accept this decision. This would be a monstrous mistake trumping all the mistakes we did in Vietnam and Iraq combined.
We can get out of this in a fairly quick manner if we do just one thing: Stop trying to force a secular democracy on these peoples in the middle of the Arab Muslim world. There are too many opponents to that approach within Iraq itself and all the neighboring countries. If we allow the natural tribal leaders to put into place whichever form of government the majority can buy into, we can extract ourselves from this tar pit. And by empowering the many, many tribal leaders, this will prevent a full blown Iranian influence within Iraq, because these tribal leaders have their own agendas. To me this seems the only way out. Unfortunately, this is going to be incredibly hard to sell to the American people.

The post here PROVE the point. The news story is about McCain. Look at ALL the posters : Obama this Clinton that. In other words “Don’t look at McCain, let me distract you by looking somewhere else” Very very telling. Didn’t Moe of the 3 Stooges pull the same trick all the time “look up here” and when Curly did he got a punch in the stomach. Sorry, I’m not going to let that happen. “Look at Obmam, look at Clinton” sorry, I’m looking at McCain, the FOCUS of this news story.

McCain this past summer climbed the grand canyon. He is full of energy on the campaign bus.
McCain opens himself up more than anybody.
McCain held 101 town hall meetings in new hampshire.
McCain has press conferences on his bus for hours with reporters. McCain has press conferences on his plane and after events.
McCain opens himself up at least 20 times more to the media than Obama or Clinton so that means he opens himself up to mistakes and gets no credit for his access.

Hillary didn’t even know her campaign was going broke. She is aloof with the management of her campaign.
Clinton is worth 109 million but is paying herself back interest for her loan.
Clinton is bad with management sticking with loyalty with penn over competence.
The whole columbia outrage was fake. Bill Clinton was getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the columbians to work for the free trade aggreement. The Clintons admitted the penn outrage was a show for the press.
Just like Clinton was being paid to give speeches in dubai while working for dubai to get ports in the U.S.
McCain has honesty in spades over the Clintons.
If I hear about McCain’s temper one more time when Bill Clinton has a far worse temper and the libs loved him as president for 8 years. What about Hillarys temper hitting bill and throwing things at him.

What McCain was trying to say is that al queda isn’t an obscure group to the shiites, sunnis or anybody else.
The context was McCain was saying Al Queda is still a threat.
McCain said it instead of to.

To Tommyrot, Hillary is saying you get both of us as a package. Most of Hillary’s voters are voting for her because of Bill. So Bill’s record should be an issue.

The right wing conspiracy has moved high speed to try to hide the lack of understand of the situation which McNasty is showing everyday about evrything. He will never get it, never undertsand it, just cannot understand Irak or Iran, or the Middle East in general. He “mispoke” again like his beloved friend “Hill the Bosnian General”. Does America needs this kind of leadership? NO. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Whatever, Obama confused Iran and Iraq during the testimony. Who really cares?
U.S. AMBASSADOR TO IRAQ RYAN CROCKER: Senator, as I said in my statement, we have no problem with a good, constructive relationship between Iran and Iraq. The problem is with the Iranian strategy of backing extremist militia groups and sending in weapons and munitions that are used against Iraqis and against our own forces.
OBAMA: Do we feel confident that the Iraqi government is directing these — this aid to these special groups?
Where is the media coverage of this. This is evidence that the media is rooting for the democrats.

Where is Jake Tapper’s headline of Obama confusing Iraq and Iran.
This media bias against McCain is unfair and bad for the democratic process. You have Obama making a gaffe which is getting no attention.
Iran is the one who is directing these special groups and Obama made a gaffe saying it was the iraqi government.

Point out the gaffes all you want. Repubs will vote McCain. If Obama is the nominee many of the Dems will vote McCain. Does anyone believe that Republicans will vote for Obama?? McCain wins.

To Tommyrat once?
Obama said the leader of Canada was the president of Canada.
Obama mispoke when he spoke to rezko.
Obama said 10,000 died in a tornado.
Obama mixed up iran and iraq.
Clinton mispeaks everyday. My favorite was when she said she only mispoke on Bosnia once. She mispoke on Bosnia at least four times on record.
McCain has honesty while the other two candidates have none.
McCain is the only one who sacrificed for this nation in this election. Clinton protested against the military and lied saying she tried to join first the marines now the army.
Obama and McCain are not suited to lead our armed forces. They NEVER EVER EVER sacrificed for this nation and are unfit to lead it.
Clinton said she tried to join the marines when she was really playing a joke with recruitment officers. She was testing them against feminism.
McCain has a moderate record. Obama and Clinton are liberal extremists.
McCain is pro second amendment. Obama and Hillary are extremists.
Obama and Hillary will stop the fence construction on the border. They are liberal extremists.

Senility comes to mind!

He’s sharp as a tack. You young whipper snappers are just too naive and you all will pay for your treason if we fail to win Iraq. McCain’s first excutive order will be to keep you crazy teenie boppers off the White House lawn.

The unshrub is Hillary senile then.
She says she mispoke once on bosnia in 12 years when she mispoke 12 times.
She says she faced sniper fire in Bosnia.
She made up joining the marines.
She made up going on a trip with Joe Wilson to Africa.
Is Hillary really in her prime?
Hillary said Musharraf was going to be on the ballot.
Hillary said she was never for the war it was for inspections when she is on record being for the war for years after it.
Hillary is not young either. Hillary would be the oldest democrat elected in 150 years. Hillary is relying on Bill Clinton who has had two open heart surgeries. McCain is in better health than Bill Clinton.

Hillary said she lead peace efforts in Ireland. The former Ireland PM said she was nothing but a cheerleader.
Hillary said she helped pass the family medical leave act. The senators that helped pass it say she lied.
Hillary said she helped pass SCHIP another lie.
Hillary said she helped with the border dispute over macadonia. By the time she arrived there the dispute was settled.
Hillary said she was the first dignitary to visit Bosnia before Clinton. Albright had visited before her.
Hillary mixes up her facts on when women were first allowed to vote.
Hillary said she went with Joe Wilson to Africa in 1997 to help with Bill’s upcoming trip. Another lie.
Hillary must be going senile she can’t decide if she was for the war or against it.
Dems can’t use age against McCain when they are running Hillary.
Pelosi is almost the same age as McCain and dems love her as speaker of the house.
Two weeks ago Hillary said I have no opinion of boycotting the olympics.
Hillary must have also been unaware of Bill Clinton making money helping push for Columbia free trade agreement. That whole Penn fake outrage was a joke.

Jason said “Hillary’s idea of leading this nation is having surrogates like Gloria Steinhem bash McCain’s service.” Sure and we all KNOW that the Republicans would never (swift boat swift boat swift boat) do something like (swfit boat swift boat swift boat) that! Swift boat.

If it is not ignorance it is certainly laziness, and a indication that he still is uninterested in the cultural roots of Iraq’s civil war. I voted for Bush in 2000, and have vowed never to vote for someone intellectually incurious as him again.
This issue is certainly more important than whether Obama is sneaking cigarettes or how much a Democratic Party candidates pays to get his haircut (I’m sure Romney paid as much as Edwards, or more but we never heard his cost).

Why haven’t seen any article about Obama’s performance in the Iraq hearing? Guess he is not doing well. Just read the raw data about the hearing in fox website(can’t help laughing).

Gee Jason, I thought you would in same way respond to my 1:18:57 PM post? Or were those three Hillary posts meant for me? I hope not, I can’t stand her. She will lie, cheat, and steal her way into the White House. She probably sold her soul to the devil and used somebody else’s blood to sign the deal.

DMR said “The first thing to go is the memory.” Sorry, you’re wrong! The first thing to go is.. ah… ahh.. hold on, its on the tip of my ahh… ahh, my whatshamacallit….

This is for Jake
You saw Obama’s performance on FOX NEWS and it made you laugh, I guess you support McCain, right? I have news for you, you can vote McCain and see if you’ll have a job (if you work) or pay your mortgage (if your parents don’t pay your bills).
You guys expect too much from someone who doesn’t have a clue about the economy. If you haven’t noticed, this is the fifth time Sen. McCain has given the wrong info on who America is fighting in Iraq.
On the Democratic side, you have two strong candidates with good plans for the economy and with plans to withdraw our tired troops. On the Republican side, you have a Cyborg who wants to spend $12b a month in Iraq and let Americans die everyday. We need our $12b dollars a month right here, right now. Haven’t we suffered enough? How many Americans need to die before we call it a day? It’s because of this war that we can’t stand up to China, we have borrowed so much money and we have to pay it back. Don’t let McCain fool u guys, he is clueless and he belongs in a home period

Jason said “McCain has been to Iraq 8 times. He was breifed on each trip.” I remember one of those trips. He was talking about how safe things were in Iraq, about how one could walk around the market place. And to prove it, he did walk around the market place: In full body armor, surrounded by a troup of soldiers, with two helecopers flying cover overhead. Yeah, sounds like he understands things perfectly.

How many average Americans can tell off the top of their head the difference between a SHIITE OR SUNNI MUSLIM or which one is part of AL QAEDA?
(Average American who DOES NOT ALWAYS WATCH/READ the news!)

This is for Jake
So you support Hillary and I’m an independent cool. Have you seen this? Read the extracts from the ABC news website below.
If only Penn were the end of the story. Guess who else supports the Colombia pact? Politico’s Ben Smith scares up the quote (translated from Spanish) from June 2005: “I am in favor of the free trade agreement,” said former President Bill Clinton (the one strategist who cannot be demoted).
This is where the (thick) rubber of the Clinton’s financial entanglements hits the (icy) road of presidential politics. Huffington Post reports that Bill Clinton was paid $800,000 in 2005 by a group “tasked with bringing investment to the country and educating world leaders about the Colombia’s business opportunities.”
The Clinton campaign confirms the former president’s support for the trade deal. “The acknowledgment adds new hurdles to the New York senator’s bid to woo Democratic voters in Pennsylvania and elsewhere who believe free trade agreements have eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs,” the AP’s Charles Babington writes.
And it’s not the only area where Bill Clinton, again, has his wife’s campaign off-message. ABC’s Jake Tapper reports that Clinton last year advised Steven Spielberg not to sever ties with the Beijing Olympics; Sen. Clinton this week made headlines by calling on President Bush to boycott the opening ceremonies.
Clinton’s = Deceit. After all these info. The Solutions Express should be called the Double Speak Express, end of story. Hope you’re still laughing, cause I am Hahahahahaha !!!!

Get the impression that if it were left up to ABC, they’d just anoint Obama as king, no questions asked. No need for any of this election silliness.

Tommyrot
That wasn’t McCain’s choice. That was the military’s choice. He said he would have had no protection if it was up to him.
McCain is the one who chose not to have secret service protect him. McCain went with no security on his last trip to the middle east and europe.
Obama took secret service in May of last year while McCain still hasn’t taken it.
Obama and Clinton have cost taxpayers over a 100 million with their protection. McCain is saving the taxpayers money.
McCain

Jason:
What are you smoking!
McCain has clearly cast HIMSELF as WARMONGER — he voted FOR the bill approving Waterboarding as acceptable. He voted for action against IRAN! He was the one who made the comment “bombbombbomb, bombbomb Iran” and wants to see us stay in Iraq for 100 years!
But to the main question, I don’t think that an “all those guys” comment can truly be called “corrected them immediately.” And I don’t think he “stumbled” so much as “bumbled.”
John McCain would be a disaster for this country as President. He has made it clear over the last two years that he is a big fan of Dubya. Four years ago, I couldn’t say this, but McCain’s own actions have shown it.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Can someone tell me what service and branch McCians son or sons are in. Not to take away from the servie the render to the country, but the fact is that his sons are out of harms wauy on a naval ship or even flying high above the skies where no one is shooting at them. The reason I bring this up is that I do not disrespect their committment to the US and the service of our country, but if you are going to use it in a political speech to further your political position as someone who knows what they are talking about, then let’s tell the whole story. The men on the ground would think differently about those not on the ground and how much they are really puting into the fight. Please do not spin the “My sons are in Iraq”. So please someone tell me that I am wrong and they are actually on the ground fighting the good fight. (Ex-Infantryman)

If the press is now going to go after McCain like this, sparing no mercy, in a similar manner as they have treated Hillary Clinton, it speaks volumes about how they’v comparatively handled Barack Obama with kid gloves.
What about Barack? Where’s the vetting. What is the press afraid of?

I should vote for Obama because McCain doesn’t know the difference between a SUNNI or a SHIITE, but what about Obama’s camp desperately trying to label McCain as a “warmonger”?… I’ll wait for the debates.

WestCoastMessenger, the media has been for Obama from day one. They’ll report a few things to make it look “fair” but they won’t report the big things, the things that could really damage Barack. And if you think it’s bad now, just wait till the general election campaigning starts.
But McCain will still win. Americans are gullible for a while, but they’re not stupid enough to vote in a radical leftwing Black Panter-esque black guy. They’re just not.

Ed S – From above it looks like that is from the error a month ago!
Do you even know what is going on in Iraq, we are letting them choose their own government, they voted it in. We are there now so it does not collapse by the forces of Iran, and Al Qeada before they can walk.
At this point we have met a majority of all the benchmarks set forth. there “congress” has done more then ours.
The Libs in our congress sit by doing unconstitutional investigations instead of coming up with a workable free market plan to help the economy, why is that it is because the libs want a recession or depression to occur!
Ed S – Is not it the object to achieve Victory!! McCain has more of an understanding then any lib.
Obama does not even know the difference between Iraq and Iran or Pakistan and India, Terrorists and Hardworking Americans So please!!
Appeasement and talking to our enemies does not work, look back thru Carter and Clinton years!
Peace thru Strength is the only way!!
We did not start this war but by God’s Will we will win it!
Every lib congressman and protester has blood on their hands, as is proven with the Harvard Study that every time a lib congressman/senator opened their mouth violence increased.
Note in comparing to Vietnam – A north Vietmanese General was interviewed he stated that after the tent offensive the North was ready to give up, but reports of America media and congress (libs at the time) saying America lost kept the North going.
Today in Iraq the enemy is listening and is trying to defeat us politically the same way in Vietnam!
Iran Ayatollah says Obama is their man!!

Obama stumbles on “Iraq/Iran” No one takes note! No stories are written…no youtubes are played…Some of us saw it…some of us read it . before you hid it…
We are not yet a tabloid democracy. Read and research… then ask yourslf what they are selling you today…If it’s Obama you decide!

Jason you said that McCain’s son has served in Irak and he went there 8 times but still he cannot make a difference between shia and sunni, between AlQaeda and Iran. What a shame, can he learn at all? His brain should be too old for him to learn anything anymore. Next time he will be viiting Irak he should invite his beloved friend “Hill the Bosnian General” so she could hlep him to understand the difference between Suni-Shia-AlQaeda-Iran-Snipers. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

McCain…
Do we really need a President who finished 894th out of 899 in his graduating class?
I don’t think so. It would SO nice to have, just for a change, some intelligence in the White House.

good lord, spock! How old are you 90?
Your views on war are archaic at best.
I remember going to Vietnam because if we didn’t fight them there, we’d be fighting the “sanpans coming up the Rio Grande!!!” The domino theory may be alive and well in your brain, but it was disproven many moons ago!
Support the Troops! Bring them HOME!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

This is only fair to discuss, along with 100 Years, because the other two would have been pilloried for these constant mistakes. These are not misstatements. They could be lack of knowledge, which trashes the ‘experience’ angle McCain once had.

Ihave always advocated that presidential candidates should have a psychological evaluation.McCAIN( killed abel) is living proof that it is very much needed.