NRCC Continues to Hammer Democratic Congressmen with Obama Remarks
Focusing this time on Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., the National Republican Congressional Committee is trying to damn local Democrats with the comments about small towns made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
“Jason Altmire Should Stop Flirting With Obama Campaign,” says an NRCC news release sent to local media in the Keystone State. “Time for Superdelegate to Say Who He Supports.”
NRCC Communications Director Karen Hanretty then says, “Congressman Jason Altmire, a superdelegate who’s been flirting with Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and who has received $10,000 from Obama’s Hope Fund PAC, should denounce Sen. Obama’s statement that Pennsylvania voters are ‘bitter’ and ‘cling to guns or religion’ because they ‘can’t count on Washington.’
“Americans don’t want liberal politicians like Barack Obama who believe Washington is a substitute for faith, personal responsibility and belief that the Constitution guarantees our freedoms. It’s time for Congressman Altmire to make a choice. He can choose to stand up for the dignity of Pennsylvanians and their deeply held beliefs by rejecting the elitist rhetoric of Barack Obama, or he can continue to flirt with the Obama campaign in the hopes of getting his picture in the paper.”
The NRCC release also includes newspaper clippings indicating that Altmire attended Obama’s St. Patrick’s Day event on the Community College of Beaver County campus (Beaver County Times), and accompanied Obama and Sen. Bob Casey Jr., D-Pa., to Casey’s endorsement event.
Do you think this will work? Will it be effective?
UPDATE: The NRCC says it’s going to send out similar news releases about Democratic Reps. Nancy Boyda and Dennis Moore of Kansas, Bruce Braley of Iowa, Joe Courtney of Connecticut, Lincoln Davis of Tennessee, Joe Donnelly, Baron Hill and Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, Gabrielle Giffords and Harry Mitchell of Arizona, Ron Klein of Florida, Nick Lampson and Ciro Rodriguez of Texas, Rick Larsen of Washington, Tim Mahoney of Florida, Jim Marshall of Georgia, Jim Matheson of Utah, Jerry McNerney of California, John Salazar of Colorado, Heath Shuler of North Carolina, Zack Space and Charlie Wilson of Ohio, Bart Stupak of Michigan, and John Yarmuth of Kentucky.
If local reporters ask these members of Congress what they think of Obama’s remarks, that could extend this story and hurt him with all-important superdelegates. That’s the NRCC’s hope, anyway.
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no, it will not work. People are much smarter than hillary & the republicans think
Posted by: b | April 12, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
And the Obama camp would not do the same.
Posted by: Tina D | April 12, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Since when do Democrats allow Republicans to tell them who to vote for?
Hopefully, people will see this for what it is — the Republican Party running scared!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 12, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Jason Altmire is my Congressman. I can’t believe he received $10k from Obama and that’s why he’s been staying silent. Jason’s constituents are hard working and good people. In the last election, he won against a Republican woman. She’s running against him next time around and if he supports Obama and took that money from him, he will certainly lose the next election. There is NO reason to support someone (Obama) who belittles and stereotypes someone’s (Altmire’s) constituents. If he endorses Obama, he is a sellout with no cedibility, morals, or ethics.
Posted by: Jenny | April 12, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
First of all, think of yourself coming from these small towns and communities and the beliefs and values you hold dearly to yourself. Then listen carefully and attentively to what Obama said. I personally feel offended and looked down on. It is not my pride but value systems people have aquaired all their lives. A presidential candidate who is out touch with mainstream individuals will say things like that. I have always said that there is something about Obama that doesn’t sound right. This is just one fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by: mark | April 12, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
You bet that shining a light on Pennsylvania politicians ‘flirting’ or endorsing Obama is justified. Let them try to message his remarks – the original ones. Better yet, let them explain what they’ve done for their constituents and why Obama hasn’t managed to improve the lives of his own constituents – whether in the state senate or the US senate.
Sounds fair to me.
Posted by: s. valenti | April 12, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
McCain and the republicans are hating on Obama right now. They, along with Hillary CLinton, know Obama has out campaigned them, he has a strong base with over a million potential voters connected to his web site. He leads in the votes for the Democratic nomination and in financing. And they hate it.
They really hate that they can’t make him bow and be more like them. Outdated, confused, used to old politics. He is a maverick, a breath of fresh air to young, old, male, female and across racial lines. He is both white and black, neither rich nor poor. The republicans and unfortunately Hillary as well, are trying to pin him down so they can catch up. THey simply cannot believe his appeal and therefore constantly throw mud hoping some will stick.
What you guys forget this is the information age, we can read and we can get data to our friends faster than Hillary can apologize for another misrepresentation or McCain can attempt to get the names of the enemies straight. THis is not business as usual and you missed it by not recognizing that americans and politics are and have evolved.
Obama has campaigned in every state, has Clinton or McCain? Obama has spoken at caucuses and primaries, Clinton did not. She chose rather to play to the big states. Hillary missed it. THat’s old and it has cost her.
You have to Obama his props, he has worked his butt off in this campaign. He was the underdog. Don’t hate, look and learn. Politics will never be the same in this country again. If you refuse to change with the times, you will get left behind.
Posted by: Edith | April 12, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Obama’s Hope Fund PAC – What is this? Is this some lobbying fund to get superdelegates?
Good job OBAMA. No more lobbying correct. Go lie to some small town folks.
Posted by: GS | April 12, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Obama has done nothing except spreading lies and raising false hopes in our nation. I can’t wait to see this man abandoned by American people. The bitterness remark is another example of his condescending gesture in front of people. He’s not a savior, but a liar!
Posted by: smartcookie2008 | April 12, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
The thing to keep in mind is that Obama is a truly great political counterpuncher. He addressed this immediately, and did so again today. And he has, over time, started to turn it to his own advantage. It drives his opponents, and a couple commenters in here, crazy.
Which is a secondary benefit. But no less enjoyable.
Posted by: Harley | April 12, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
How much money did Bob Casey Jr. receive from Obama to endorse him? Obama’s campaign should provide a list of all the money they have paid to superdelegates and ABC news should make it available to the public. If Obama is buying superdelegate votes, or winning them over with threats, the public has a right to know.
Posted by: rs | April 12, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Obama’s knack for seeing past the symptoms to the causes of problems is an uncommon – but sorely needed – one. Recognizing our commonalities in order to improve our situations is the opposite of the name-calling and label-mongering that politicians and pundits do to tear us down.
If you listen to all of what he says instead of the carefully edited soundbites chosen to manipulate you, you will hear quite a different intention from what the media and rumor-mills are feeding you. Be smarter than that!!
Posted by: indalay | April 12, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Is it possible that Clinton supporters don’t listen to whole speeches? Are they just lead by snippets of information? Surely, they are not coming up with this hate Obama stuff from comments made form Clinton or McCain.
Reality check guys, Clinton is only in PA because of votes, she has not campaigned in every state. She does not care about all of America, just the part that can benefit her numbers. Check out the caucuses. If that is not being an elitist, I don’t know what is.
I am not offended by the truth. I am bitter, and tired of broken promises. We should be glad someone in listening and willing to take the heat for telling the truth about how we feel! How can Hillary fight for me, when she does’nt hear me? I am mad, frustrated with the job situation and bitter that plants are leaving me out in the cold.
Posted by: Edith | April 12, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Harely, your comment is exactly right:
“The thing to keep in mind is that Obama is a truly great political counterpuncher. He addressed this immediately, and did so again today. And he has, over time, started to turn it to his own advantage. It drives his opponents, and a couple commenters in here, crazy. Which is a secondary benefit. But no less enjoyable.”
This is exactly what every political commentator and bloggers are talking about and will be talking about all the way to the PA primary, Obama’s counterpunch. Oh by counterpunch are you talking about Obama’s own admission that he used the wrong words? Yeah, good counter, it was so good; Clinton and McCain have stopped commenting on the “bitter” remark.
Posted by: G.G | April 12, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Obama Zombies open your eyes and realize that Congressman listen to their constituents. They could vote him out in a heartbeat. Superdelegates will jump ship as sonn as it’s possible they could lose reelection!
Posted by: Kenny from CT. | April 12, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Harley’s comments..”The thing to keep in mind is that Obama is a truly great political counterpuncher. He addressed this immediately, and did so again today”.
But the great Orator wasn’t to quick in addressing his racist “spiritual advisors”
comments…
Posted by: whitehousewatcher | April 12, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Dear Mr. B. Hussein Obama
For your enlightenment – I do not posses a gun because I’m bitter, I carry one because the Bill of Rights allows me to posses one in order to defend my life, my family and my home. I do not attend church on Sundays because of bitterness, but because I get lifted up and encouraged, I get challenged and strengthened by worshipping my God (Note: I recognize that in your particular church this type of activity is a rarity – but in this you’re actually in the minority – trust me!) Lastly, I do not believe in immigration control or tight borders because of some deep root of bitterness, but I do believe in border control because 1) it is the law, and for the most part the law is being ignored, but 2) it is the sure fire way of helping to ensure an act of terrorism doesn’t return to where I live!
Perhaps instead of trying to figure out why we working class people are bitter, especially when we’re not, I would suggest that you begin to re-examine if you are not the one who is actually the bitter one – -perhaps this is the motive or basis of your running for President.
Posted by: Jesse | April 12, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
I like this so much, I’m sending it again and again!
Senator Obama is the ‘self-proclaimed’ UNITER not DIVIDER. Looking at the facts; Obama has always been the ‘outsider’. Although born in Hawaii, Obama spent his youth, in Muslim schools, in Indonisia. After his Muslim/Black father, and White/Christian mother divorced, as a teenager, he ran the streets of Chicago, where he was involved in the drug-culture. After having ‘gotten his act together’, he attended one of the true bastions of liberalism in America, Harvard Law School. During a twenty-year period, he attended the ‘hate White America’ sermons of a Reverand Wright. So, one can easily see that Obama’s influences have been nothing but ‘Hate for America’, i.e., Muslim schools in Indonisia, liberal law school, and sermoms from Reverend Wright. Understandable, he knows nothing of ‘small-town’ America, as documented by his lastest rant about small-town Pennysilvanians!
Another thing Obama doesn’t understand; small-town America…and Big town America, is angry over ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! We, America, are not angry over LEGAL IMMIGRATION! When In-The-Hell, is Obama going to ge that right!? Obama, stop confusing ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ immigration! Start recognizing that 17 million AMERICANS go to bed everyday without the necessary food/nutrition, and access to education and social services that EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN has in America! We have 17 million AMERICANS that live under the ‘poverty’ line!
Obama, someone more in-touch with America, and the middle-class has finally put a number to the NET COST of ‘illegal’ immigration in America! A ‘NET’ COST OF $338 BILLION A YEAR! And, who is paying it? The middle-class American…the very one you claim you’re going to give tax-cuts too!
Obama, you can’t have your ‘illegal’ cake, and have America eat it too! You can’t be America’s UNITER when you can’t relate to America! Therefore, you can only be a DIVIDER!
Posted by: Jesse | April 12, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
It is a shame when truth becomes a dirty word.
Senator Obama has my vote.
Just call me angry, frustrated and bitter in Houston, Texas.
Posted by: Deward Bowles | April 12, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Thanks Iraq-Veteran:
By now, most people have seen what a hypocrite Hussein Obama really is.
Obama’s 20 year relationship with the lunatic racist Rev. Wright; the disgraced Tony Rezko; and the self-proclaimed Pentagon Terrorist, William C. Ayers have been well documented.
Well, it has taken well over a year that the mainstream media are beginning to look under the hood with Hussein Obama.
Be careful … you are going to find more.
A vote for Obama is a vote for anti-Americanism and division for the next 4-8 years!
Be careful America!
Posted by: Jesse | April 12, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama says some voters are bitter over economic inequalities
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Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat’s this?TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (AP) — In the midst of an assault from his rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said Friday that many working-class Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have lost faith in Washington — and, as a result, vote on the basis of other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.
The Illinois senator’s analysis of what motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately last Sunday to a group of donors in San Francisco.
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“People don’t vote on economic issues because they don’t expect anybody is going to help them,” Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute, Ind., high school Friday evening. “So people end up voting on issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith and their community, and their family, and the things they can count on. But they don’t believe they can count on Washington.”
The Huffington Post website reported Friday that Obama, speaking of some Pennsylvanians’ economic anxieties, told supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. … And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or anti-pathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not getting behind his campaign.
“Well, that’s not my experience,” Clinton told a Drexel University crowd, describing the state’s residents as resilient, optimistic and hardworking.
“Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them,” she said. “They need a president who stands up for them.”
Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain, described Obama’s comments as “condescending” and “out of touch.”
In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.
“No, I’m IN touch,” he said. “I know exactly what’s going on. People are fed up, they are angry, they’re frustrated and they’re bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington.”
Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, “Instead of apologizing for offending small-town America, Senator Obama chose to repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week.”
Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: “Only an elitist would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. … You can’t be more out of touch than that.”
Posted by: Jesse | April 12, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Between the Rev. Wright controversy and the typical white person comment, and the bitter middle class– I humbly cannot perceive Obama as President. A President must uplift it’s country and citizens and not tear them down. Obama has now lost any chance at getting my vote.
Posted by: Lost Votes | April 12, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
It must be really awful to be Karen Hanretty and have to say garbage like that just to keep her job.
Think about it: she can’t sleep at night, can’t look at herself in the mirror, is shunned by her family. All because whe has to tell lies for a living. Sad.
Posted by: Tom J | April 12, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Tavis Smiley, one of Obama’s toughest African American critics, is quitting the Tom Joyner radio show because he can’t take the “hate” he’s been getting from the Obama people, who claim to love everyone so much. On Huffington Post yesterday, Earl Ofari Hutchinson suggested that Smiley is the victim of the “black Obama thought police”. How many of Obama’s black superdelegegates and “supporters” are suffering the same fate?
Posted by: rs | April 12, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
These are the words that Obama used to EXPLAIN his first comments: “So people — they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community,” he said. “The truth is that these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation, those are important. That’s what sustains us,” he said.
SORRY, but I don’t think that guns, faith, family, community are quaint “traditions” for simple people that are “passed from generation to generation” to “sustain us.” These are the unchanging self-evident truths of human beings that are endowed by our creator and guaranteed in our Constitution.
So, for Obama to continue to dismiss these “traditions” as things that distract us from more important things is unbelievable. For him to view these as “traditions” that might be malleable or over-rideable by a more enlightened government is extremely dangerous.
Posted by: Independent in PA | April 12, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Barack Obama,
You just lost my vote. Sorry.
Posted by: Voter in Pennsylvania | April 12, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Obama makes me bitter.
Posted by: BitterPennsylvanian | April 12, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Maybe Obama can get Edwards endorsement right about now to save Obama from jumping the shark.
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Obama, have you jumped the shark?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 12, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Just Curious:
Yes there’s a difference. As the Reverend Write clearly states, his congregation needs to believe that Christ was black. After 20 years, I’m sure it sunk into Obama’s paradigm.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Obama speaks the Truth for what me and my family and many others in my area are feeling…it is clear that he understands what is going on in America and i applaud him. My vote and my family’s vote will be for Barack Obama in a few weeks here in PA.
Posted by: Voter in Pennsylvania | April 12, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Deward. LOL. You are angry and frustrated as little small town me. I will take it as I am with you. But, are you also turning to guns,religion,more antipathy and anti immigration. Please say you do.Then you truly will be one of those BO was talking about. I am angry,bitter and frustrated, but none of the others. I am the the proud grandson of Italian immigrants and a very proud catholic. Religion is in my blood.
Posted by: Warren5678 | April 12, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I’m a Democrat and Jason Altmeyer is my congressman. He better wait until the people of PA speak. If Hillary wins the state and he supports supports Obama, I’ll support Melissa Hart.
Posted by: Jacko | April 12, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
It is great to see the fantastic coordination between Mark Penn and Charlie Black on this non-issue.
Posted by: Edward Murray | April 12, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Sure it will not work. Obama quite openly is challenging Hillary and McCain.
He has willing put a contract between the people and the man of the people. People are not dum they are touched by his natural humanity and they will honor him for that!
Posted by: Peace | April 12, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
voter in PA. Nice. I am also a small town, angry, bitter and frustrated man. But if you said that BO said nothing wrong, then you must be one of those who turned to guns, religion, antipathy and anti immigration. Please say that you turned to all of those.
Posted by: Warren5678 | April 12, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I find it ludicrous that the RNCC alluded to constitutional rights not resting in Washington. This from the party whose official white house policy is that the 4th amendment means what the president says it means.
Please, if you think you have any constitutional rights, read the stories and the language of the Yoo memos, read that the President approved torture, read that Homeland Security intends to use the spy satellites to monitor all Americans, read that your phone calls are intercepted. Read and understand that Washington has decided you have no rights, you only have privileges to be removed at the whim of the President. Recognize that you have been sold out.
Posted by: jr | April 12, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
jr
And how does that assertion apply to Obama’s words?
Posted by: Aston | April 12, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
All small town folks like me are turning to guns, religion, antipathy and anti immigration. LOL. I am glad that he did not slip in the “typical white folks”. This man is arrogant and prejudiced. I can’t believe that these stupid DEmocrats are going to nominate him.I am independent, patriotic and I love my fellow citizens.If I need to get drunk and hold my nose to give my anti war and anti economy vote, small town Floridian vote to JM so be it. Ughhhhhhhh. I need to dwon two strong ones right now to consider eevn the thought of voting JM. But, no Obama. Mayor Bloomberg or Lou Dobbs, please step in to save us.
Posted by: Warren5678 | April 12, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Obama’s the uniter
Each day I turn on the television and all networks show individuals stating that they like “Sen. Obama’s ability to unite people” (American’s). The Senator from Illinois came into the U.S. Senate under the 2004 Democratic Party of change when Democrats took the majority of both houses. First, the Senator from Illinois voting record in the Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate confirm that the Senator from Illinois ability to unite both parties is mediocre at best. Second, the Democratic Party has changed nothing in the U.S. Senate or the Congress since taking the majority of both houses. This includes any symbolic victory as promised by all Democratic Party politicians in 2004.
Once the Senator from Illinois got in trouble with his pastor, he delivered a well written speech that Americans know his writers have done well doing their homework in selecting sensitive race issues that an American culture hungers for in wanting to deal with race and putting the race issue to rest. The fact remains, had this speech been given even “one second” earlier prior to getting in trouble, the Senator from Illinois would have given the type of speech that the media tells Americans that it was. In my view, the speech was a get out of trouble speech. Minorities like myself seem to understand the reason the Senator from Illinois reason for delivering such a speech as a political survival tactic.
President Teddy Roosevelt spoke about Americans needing to see themselves as Americans and not as one needing to first be of an ethnic background and then an American. Americans know that the Democratic Party has done nothing different in the Congress since taking a majority in both houses than when the Republican Party did when they had a majority. The exception being that like the Senator from Illinois, Speaker Pelosi barks allot and gets allot of free media coverage. Like the Senator from Illinois, Speaker Pelosi loves the television camera to pass on their rhetoric and offer no solutions.
Finally, many times I have heard Black Americans in our streets telling non-Blacks that soon America will have a Black President. They suggest that then we (i.e., Americans) will get what we deserve, what ever that means. I did not know that I served in uniform for over three decades to “get what I deserved”. I thought I was serving in uniform in the service of our nation. I proudly fought in numerous wars in defense of National Security Objectives and not to get “what I deserved”. I am still looking for that politician that claims to be the new change politician although the Senator from Illinois own actions and own words constantly attacks his character. Americans know that all news networks will never cover such events thoroughly except make excuses for the Senator from Illinois.
Posted by: Dr Hubert | April 12, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
jsptich. Are you small town,angry and bitter like me? Have you turned to guns,relgion,antipathy and anti immigration? LOL. If you are please continue to support your messiah who can do no harm. See No Evil Hear no Evil and plese Smell No Evil. The rest of us smell stink.
Posted by: Warren5678 | April 12, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
This is good for Obama. From hereonout, any Republicans that try to push gay issues, gun issues, god issues, or other non-economic issues are going to be seen truthfully as the exploitative diversionary demagogues that they are.
Wake Up America! You’re being owned by China. The value of your dollar is declining (been to Canada lately? 1$US = 1$CA, used to be 1US=2CA). You work more hours for less vacation than your European counterparts. You send your money to murderous sheiks for their polluting fuel. Your avg. life expectancy (44th) is now lower than Jordan’s! We’re closing schools in our King County WA district because of a few million budget shortcoming while we spend that in an hour for Iraq. We build schools in Iraq while U.S. children have larger classes with poorer results. Our healthcare system is horribly inefficient and leaves 1/6th of the country uninsured.
The U.S. used to be independent; self-sufficient like its citizens. Now its dependent on other countries for cheap labor, life-giving energy, and budget-crunching credit. What has happened to us? I’ll tell you what — the very rich are selling us out. They’re not for America, they’re for their own personal wealth. They move OUR factories overseas. They buy tax breaks via their lobbyists, many of whom work for presidential campaigns. They’re trying very hard to remove the estate tax so that their descendants will always be over and above your own descendants, no matter how talented or hard working they may be.
In the meantime, the Republicans would have you believe that we’re threatened by gays, liberals, immigrants, gun-takers, atheists, you name it. They’d much rather have you worry about anything except the economic opportunity that is diminishing in America. Our next generations will be WORSE OFF than us; a first in our great country’s history. We need to take back ownership of our country from those who pass laws in favor of the few at the expense of the many… at the expense of the middle class.
Obama chose poor words. He was obviously wrong to imply that ALL small towners are as he described. His point was that naturally when people feel that their own economic interests are impossibly beyond the power of their vote, they will turn to other vote on other things that are important to them… for some that is obviously guns, God, and many other things.
Posted by: JTS | April 12, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
There’s a startling dismissiveness in Obama’s first round of responses. It may resonate amoung his supporters, but they don’t seem to understand that they’ll need voters other themselves to win. That thundering herd is the number of independent voters fleeing to either Clinton or McCain.
Obama supporters need to read the end of the Hans Christian Anderson story of
“The Emperor’s New Clothes.” I’ll help; here’s the conclusion:
A child, however, who had no important job and could only see things as his eyes showed them to him, went up to the carriage.
“‘The Emperor is naked,” he said.
“Fool!” his father reprimanded, running after him. “Don’t talk nonsense!” He grabbed his child and took him away. But the boy’s remark, which had been heard by the bystanders, was repeated over and over again until everyone cried.
“The boy is right! The Emperor is naked! It’s true!”
The Emperor realized that the people were right but could not admit to that. He thought it better to continue the procession under the illusion that anyone who couldn’t see his clothes was either stupid or incompetent. And he stood stiffly on his carriage, while behind him a page held his imaginary mantle.
Stay with that position of condescension; it seems to be working.
Posted by: SAM | April 12, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
People can not handle the truth…no matter how it is said, we are all bitter at he way our economy has turned out. Someone had to say it for us, this is why we are angry. Let’s face it, Pres. Bush did not do a good job. maybe someone else will!!! I still trust that BO will do a better job than another Clinton, in the Whitehouse. At least we will not worry if Hillary answers the phone at 3am, when she gets frustrated looking for Bill, in the whitehouse. She won’t answer the PHONE!!!!
Posted by: rodrose696 | April 12, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
It amazes me that people still make excuses for Obama. I have not been fooled. It is funny that Obama says the american people are being ignored. Funny, since I live in Florida and its funny that he doesnt want Florida or Michigan to count because, oh my, he would LOOSE. That is called TYPICAL POLITICS, and again, I have not been fooled. I will never vote for someone who does not want my vote to count, and I am a Democrat. GO HILLARY!!!! YES SHE CAN!!!!
Posted by: Paul | April 12, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I used to believe that Obama was not electable. I still believe it but now the evidence is breathtaking. Not only that, any Democrat running for Congress that is affiliated with Obama is at risk. I think the stock just shot up for photos of candidates pictured alongside Hillary Clinton.
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Do you think Obama is bitter about his bowling score and he’s just striking back!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 12, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
The Jacksonian attitude of Middle America is exactly what Senator Obama has attacked. With his comments about bitter small town residents clinging to issues like religion, anti immigration, guns etc.
The Jacksonians, big town or small town, if bitter at all, are bitter because the government tries to fix things that are not broken, or take things for others.
We would like a quiet safe environment to raise and enjoy our families, we would like to keep what we earn, run our own schools, and let others do their own thing.
If you (democrats, government, politicians, corporations, whatever) want to mess with our basic desire or core values we will rise up in anger and defense. This fire storm over the Senators comments is not over. Anyone interested in a great explanation of our Jacksonian attitude should look to Michael Barone’s recent definition.
Posted by: flyover | April 12, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
As a very middle class American, I can completely relate to everything that Obama said. I listened to his speech in Terre Haute IND and I understand the context that it is meant. I have very little expectation that my involvement in economics in America is going to wield any weight. Simple as that. Spin it how it works for you – if you oppose Obama, jump all over it, if not, let it lie as the truth. I’m glad a candidate doesn’t care about politics enough to talk straight. Thanks for having the courage to tell it like it is.
Posted by: Shannon, Grosse Pointe, Michigan | April 12, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
whitehousewatcher
Why would white people listen to a racist preacher?
Posted by: AkaDad | April 12, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I think that what Sen Obama said about working class people being angry is true and also that what he said about people, especially the less educated, tend to accept some of the negative things that are said as truth, for example that immigrants are to blame for their job troubles when the true blame lies with government policies. It is difficult for some people to understand that. It is wrong for both Sen Clinton and Sen McCain who both know the truth to distort what was said for their own political gain. What needs to be done is to educate the American people. Just as Sen Obama gave a speech about racial issues in order to attempt to educate us, it would be great to hear a speech about the relationship between the economy and prejudice, how we might place blame in wrong directions often led by politicians, and what we need to do to educate ourselves to improve our own condition.
Posted by: carolyn | April 12, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
RodRose,
Thank Obama that we have you and Obama to think for us small-minded small-town folk clutching our Bibles and holding our guns, trembling in the corner.
If Obama would just bring us a bowling alley to our little town, along with all the jobs it creates, we will be willing to surrender our weapons.
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Obama, thank you for Obama!
Obama will get an honorary doctorate in bowling if you can bring us new bowling alley jobs!
Obama bless us all, everyone!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 12, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Not unless you continue harping on it.
God I’m tired of these primaries…
Posted by: sean | April 12, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
The voters are ultimately to blame for the ills of the country. They elect idiots over and over again without ever demanding honest answers or of holding their feet to the fire. To that extent, the embittered folks of Pennsylvania should look in the mirror instead of listening to the words of an idiot.
And, they should ask themselves “How will this idiot prove to be better than the other idiots I keep voting into office”.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
In Massachusetts, Sen. Kerry a huge Obama apologist already has – not one but two Democratic challengers in the upcoming election.
They believe that he is out of touch with Massachusetts voters. How much of that has to do with his premature endorsement of Senator Obama remains to be seen. Massachusetts primary voters were overwhelmingly for Clinton.
As for me, my vote is for anybody but Kerry! and when that other over the hill, pompous Ted Kennedy runs for re-election, I’ll support his opponent.
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: morningside | April 12, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Obama should not be in the race.
Anyone who lives in the states he targeted should be highly offended by his remarks.
Because he stated them and meant them. Now he will try to explain them away. But he made to deep of a cut.
He isulted the back bone of this nation.
Hard working, Proud Americans, who love their country.
Posted by: seah | April 12, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
flyover | Apr 12, 2008 2:40:47 PM
Nice pick up of Barone’s Jacksonian theme. I read his article last weekend. It was very interesting. Obama doesn’t understand the theme.
Posted by: SAM | April 12, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
WestCoastMessanger, Hillary the Bosnian General is unelectable as you know very well, the republicans are working hard to get her to face McCain because that will be the easiest path to the White House a 3rd term WBush-Cheney-McCain. McCain is afraid of Obama and everybody knows that reality. Hill and McCain do not want to say the truth and do not want the truth be heard. Obama is telling people that WBush failed economic policies and Hill and Bill’s NAFTA and Colombiagate are the real reasons of their suffering and that is the reality to be accepted. Great leaders will not lie to their people, will not spin the reality to their people and will not twiste the truth about their daily life. That is what Hill the Bosnian General knows and does: everything is fine, everything is OK while people have lost their jobs, health care and pension. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 12, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
No matter what he says.. he cannot please everyone .. I think he is correct in his analysis and whether it was politically correct to say .. it how he said it .. is up to everyone else to judge. I think a fair-minded individual will accept his honest words .. for what they are ..
Posted by: Brian | April 12, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Twisted sound bytes just before a big primary from the Clintons. Why should it be a surprise. That’s the way they have run this campaign. I think that’s what most of the country is tired of seeing. I supported Bill Clinton twice but no more. I think that many of us are angry, bitter, about the way things are going and I can certainly see Obama as an agent for change. When I get sick of seeing the twisting of facts and feel helpless about doing anything I found out that I can do something. Send in another $25.00 to the Obama campaign. Makes me feel better. Hope you will do the same.
Posted by: Carol S | April 12, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I am surprised there are some people who are intentionally not reading what Obama has said. he is bang on with what he is saying. He understands America
Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Listen to the anger in your own voices and ask yourselves if you are bitter. It is unbelievable how much hatred is stirred up by elections and how quite we are to totally dismiss someone for simple remarks or stating a position. Anger is the emotion that is most readibly open to manipulation…ask yourself if your anger is being used against you and your interests.
Posted by: louise | April 12, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
My hope is that the candidates who are hit with this say exactly what needs to be said:
That Obama was right.
20 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush have made small town America bitter towards government. Why? Because of economic policies that were designed for the rich.
Expect to see a boost for Obama in the polls next week.
Posted by: Jams | April 12, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Isn’t the antipathy comment just a political way of calling a group of people bigots. I’m a little suprised it hasn’t gotten more attention.
Posted by: john | April 12, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Shame on you Obama! I own a gun, believe in GOD and it’s not because I’m bitter. If you support Obama – YOU ARE A FOOL! He refuses to wear an American flag pin, doesn’t place his hand over his heart while he pledges allegiance to the American flag and even his own wife stated “for the first time in her life, she’s proud to be an Americana.” Come on now! What a disgrace!!!!
Posted by: Andrew | April 12, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Look at the spin doctors at work, as well as the press who eats this stupidity up like candy. Unfortunately, it will probably work out the way it was intended to. Manipulation of the ignorant.
Posted by: FedUp | April 12, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Change is Coming!!!This is so refreshing we Americans get a chance to see Washington for what it is. Corrupted!!Keep swinging and reaching Clinton and McCain.
Obama Baby 08
Posted by: frazier | April 12, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Obama told the truth we are upset and unhappy about how are jobs are lost and how Wahington is not listening to the people and the one that are speaking nagatively and saying what Obama had said was a Slam on small towns SHAME ON YOU. NOT ONE OF YOU had walk the streets of Pennsylvania and listen to the voters and Obama heard the cries of the people. and it is sad to say people hearts thats not right trying to turn this as something Negative. WE THE PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY and I can relate to what Obama had said to be true.
Posted by: Maxine | April 12, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
For all those who don’t believe Senator Obama is not a unifier – tell what has HRC done to unify this country? The last week or so all is see is lies she and her husband telling withour apology. You want Senator Obama to apologize for pointing out the truth about why voters are cynnical? This is beyond absurd – I hope the people who really are not afraid to face facts will see his statements for what it is and not allow the media to drive the agenda.
Posted by: florence | April 12, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Obama supporters never change. The only way they can defend their canidate is to discredit some one else. He admitted that he didn’t choose his words well. Unfortunately he doesn’t have a record to run on, he’s running on judgement and the fact that words matter. The Republicans are having a field day with these words.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | April 12, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
WHO ARE THESE GUYS, WHO THINK AMERICANS AREN’T BITTER??? ARE YOU KIDDING??? 81% of the country thinks America is heading the wrong way, and McCain and Clinton are the ones out of touch if they don’t think Americans are angry. NO WONDER nothing gets done in Washington- these idiot politicians think We’re all happy-yippy-skippy with our crummy wages, lack of health insurance, and gas prices! Get real!!! Good for Obama for telling the truth.
Posted by: julie | April 12, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Look again at what BHO said.
If this weren’t an elitist statement made by someone who is looking
down at the blue collar masses, wouldn’t he have said WE instead of THEY?
“So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns
or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or
anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain
their frustrations.”
Posted by: Indus | April 12, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Obama’s real feelings and his real self have come out. He is an echo of Rev. Wright. Obama has self destructed.
Obama, this is your Howard Dean moment Pack your bags and go back home to Chicago.
The people of America are much better off without you. You are out of touch with Americans.
I feel sorry fo the people you represent in Chicago.
Posted by: pam | April 12, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Obama had spoken the truth People are unhappy and some are bitter of jobs that had been lost. and this is not downing anyone and because some of us feel that Washington is not hearing the voices of the people some of us do not vote on issues we do cling to our faith and guns where we can go hunting to ease our minds because of how Washington promise so much and deliver so little.
Posted by: Tiffany | April 12, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Obama is a poser.He is not a real deal.Only bla bla bla bla and nothing else.For the good of our contry he must drop out asap .He is divider and just take real hard look at this guy.Wake up!
Posted by: mike | April 12, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I see who BHO was talking about in his speech. It was Matt from this blog. Why so bitter Matt?
Posted by: Persio | April 12, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Hillary devides us, McCain and Republcans lie to us, and looking at the comments most of us fall for it.
Whose more elitist? The fat cat greedy republicans who prop up big oil and bear sterns, McCain with his 5 Vacation homes, Clintons with their 110 Mill or Obama with his 1 mill because he wrote a good book?
Sorry people most of you are sheep, and yes I own a gun, live in a town of 1600, and believe in God.
Posted by: David | April 12, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Obama “Yes We Can…..insult small town America”
Posted by: Jo | April 12, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The NRCC should rather and first auto-examine after 8 devastating years of Bush admin.
-Economy in recession
-Subprime crisis
-killed 4000 US troops and 150 000 Irakis for the war on lie
-Tax cuts for the wealthiest
-Bush policies disapproved by 80%
-Ben Laden’s holidays in Pakistan
So you guys, the great elite of the NRCC, you should rather shut up and present excuses to the american people.
this makes me bitter
Posted by: Frederic Glassey | April 12, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
It is utterly amazing and completely ironic that the NRCC has the unmitigated gall to accuse Obama of being “elitist” and condescending towards Americans whose quality of life has significantly eroded over the last 8 years at the hands of an arrogant Republican administration whose pathological disdain for the average American borders on the criminal?
As for Hillary Clinton, she is reduced to taking cheap potshots at Obama. Her credibility is beyond repair and her desperation is obvious. She obviously does not care about the Democratic party because in her desperate attempts to win the nomination, she is quite willing to taking sides with McBush. How arrogant is THAT?
Posted by: Valerie | April 12, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I can’t wait till Monday to listen to Rush after Snob-Gate.
Posted by: Jo | April 12, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Valerie, nice try, but nothing is as arrogant as telling small town voters that their faith & their 2nd amendment rights are not important to them, but just ways to channel their bitterness.
Unbelievable arrogance.
Posted by: Jo | April 12, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
First he speaks about PA. in arrogant an condescending terms, now watch him come out with a patronizing speech (Axelrod is probably typing it up right now) so all of his followers can stand there like star struck teenagers with their mouths hanging open and stars circling above their heads. Gotta give him credit though, he does seem to know how to keep the hypnosis going for those who don’t really care about reality. He really doesn’t seem to understand that what he said was offensive, I guess he thinks only African Americans have the right to be offended by such comments. He also apparently thinks he has the right to say whatever he likes when it can be explained as simply stating the truth. “It’s the truth” has replaced “Yes, we can,” have you noticed?
Posted by: dwc | April 12, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Yes, we the people have been angry and bitter of the self-serving politicians, who throw us a bone here and there and who use divisive issues like abortion, gay rights, gun control, … to divide us so that they can stay in power.
I am a supporter of Hillary and I would be more than happy to support Obama. Understandably Hillary would try to twist any mistatements to her benefits as Obama would with Hillary’s comments. Certainly the Republicans and John McCain, who have destroyed our beloved countries and are trying so desparately to win, would try to “define” Obama.
I am confident that after 8 years of being fooled by the power-hungry GOP with fear, the people will see through and demand the changes needed to make our beloved country strong and respected again.
Go OBAMA! (I still hope that Hillary wins. ;-)
Posted by: Truc | April 12, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Obama supporters are going to say that his “bitter” comments do not reflect what he really believes. They are going to say he mispoke. Unfortunately, when he tried to explain the comments the next day he ended up reinforcing his notion that bitter and frustrated equals religious and gun loving.
Maybe he mispoke and maybe he did not, but his comments fit the narrative being developed by the Republicans that he is elitist, arrogant, and not in touch with the working class. This narrative has been developing for a long time and these words fit neatly within that narrative.
Posted by: David H | April 12, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Wow, you Hillary supporters are so convincing. I’m going to switch my support from Obama to Hillary. Finally, I have some folks I can talk to about Roswell.
Posted by: Matt | April 12, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Obama, is not out of Touch with America and because he said the word bitter that is what he heard from the people of Pennsylvania and on a personal level, We are, because we want change and we are fed up with Washington promise so much and delivers so little Obama spoke out the feeling of many. My father was a blue collar worker and Obama spoke the truth sound like to me Obama is in touch with the American People he heard the cries of the voters.
Posted by: Timothy | April 12, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Obama was RIGHT! As usual main stream media, Clinton fans and McCain supporters are going to grab hold to his comments and lament them as ‘an elitist point of view.’
…ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
Hillary and Bill made over $109 million dollars in the last 7 years! Bill Clinton has taken over $800,0000 speaking and promoting the Colombia Trade deal! Her aide Penn was working for the same deal! Yet she is against it?!! I wonder how much of the $800 grand went towards Hillary’s campaign and what deals were promised for that money?? John McCain is married to a woman worth over $150-200 million dollars!
Let’s be real. People are bitter about what has been happening in their life. Money, housing, wars…of course people are bitter. Of course people are turning to religion, and other things to cover their emotions!
Posted by: Yvette | April 12, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
The NRCC is desperate. It knows
that two national issues have
doomed the GOP’s chances to
remain a national party:
(1) the Iraq War – over 81% of
the American public opposes this
war. The GOP favors it. (2) illegal immigration – the GOP’s cruel positions on this issue over the years have branded the GOP as anti-Hispanic. Once
the electorate gets behind
gets behind the curtains to vote,
these are the two major issues
that will compel the voter to
vote Democratic.
Posted by: Beto | April 12, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Come on don’t blame Obama. Don’t you realize that everything Obama does wrong is Hillary’s fault? (Tongue in cheek)
Posted by: AKnight | April 12, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
How many more times do we have to hear, “but it was taken out of context”, before the Obama people wake up and realize he is not who you think he is!!!!!
-Rezko
-Wright
-NAFTA
-”Typical White Woman” comment
-Taking money from oil companies
-Taking money from lobbyists thru bundling
-Voting present over 100 times
-Second worse record in the Senate for missed votes (see a pattern?)
-Saying he had passed legislation on Nuclear safety, when the bill really died in the senate
-Stating his birth was a direct result from the March on Selma (unfortunately, he was born 4 years before it happened)
-Given the leadership of a foreign relations commitee, but failed to hold one meeting (too busy running for Prez)
He did hold one recently-called window dressing.
WAKE UP BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: beachnan | April 12, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
How dare Obama talk about us small town, gun toting christians like that. Rise Hillary Rise! (men are evil)
HILLARY ’08!
Posted by: Matt | April 12, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
My bad. Timothy and Yvette, I stand corrected; you have convinced me. Obama is not out of touch with the American people. American people are out of touch with him.
Posted by: Derek N | April 12, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Remember, Obama was supposed to be good for the Democratic party and for all the Dem candidates up for election in November.
The reality is that he’s killing the party by deliberately dividing it, disenfranchising voters and supplying the Repubs with ammunition through his rookie mistakes.
Also, the book is now being written about Obama, who is no longer an empty vessel.
He’s an arrogant, elitist snob, something those of us with functioning brains could see right away.
Got that?
Arrogant, elitist snob!
That’s Barry Obama and he isn’t going to sweet talk that label away.
Posted by: OxyCon | April 12, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
ALL I hear are the talking parrots of John McBush and Clinton. Those are the ones that cling to ignorance (the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.) to face the facts or to research them for themselves and make an intelligent decision.
Senator Obama is the first of ALL the of these candidates to appeal to our younger generation and trying to unite the OLD thinkers into a “CHANGE” and “HOPE” as you have seen consistently throughout his campaign from the beginning, then you have Clinton and Republicans that were using OLD faces that were in the DAYS and OLD supporters of the Clinton administration, OLD MONEY! NOW, McClinton started expressing the same thinking of “CHANGE” and “HOPE”, after condemning Obama for his views from the start and recently using younger generation backdrop supporters!
Senator Obama is the FIRST and ONLY of ANY of the candidates to have the GUTS to come out and discuss the unspoken truths of this country with Americans, as adults and how we can HEAL our country and move forward to embrace each other in a UNIFIED manner as AMERICANS with the same frustrations, same disappointments, and to work for a better way of life and ability to try and leave a better life to our children.
What have Hillary and McCain done? Shoot down Hope and CHANGE, try to tone their speeches down and try to act as though they really care.
Americans, don’t forget Hillary was and still is out there pushing for NAFTA,free trade with Communist China, and India as well as outsourcing our jobs for Bill, THEN and NOW. Pushing to INCREASE the H1B visas, outsourcing more American jobs to Communist China and India, because in Hillary’s and Jon McCain’s eye’s, Americans are to stupid to help our big corps!
Senator Obama is genuine and NOW the only thing that the McClintons can do is try with the help of media to slice and dice anything Obama says in hopes of winning, but WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE know who they really are and we stand for that one true president that can answer the 3a.m call and know he will give full attention to make the right judgment, OBAMA!
Posted by: Jerry EZ, Texas | April 12, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
To the NRCC Iam agreeing with Valerie who wrote: Economy in recession,subprime crisis,Killed 4000 US Troops and 1500,000 Tax cuts for the Weathiest Bush Policies disapprove by 80% Ben Laden’s holiday in Pakistan Thanks to the BUSH Administration this country Economy is in a mess and guess what yes we the people do have that emotion that bring about the feeling of bitterness. That is the TRUTH.
Posted by: Kenny | April 12, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Jerry EZ, Texas
Anybody can identify a problem. Few have the nerve to go public with a solution. Exactly what will Obama do to solve any problem with bitterness that may be present. The answer is “We don’t have a clue”. The empty suit can offer no solution whatsoever.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
So what’s his solution take our guns or take our religion, you see where his has gotten him. Maybe he just wants to relocate us to areas where people aren’t bitter.
Maybe if I live long enough I’ll get reparations for being relocated to one of his work camps free of religion and guns?
It’s easy to make jabs at people’s environment. Had it been McCain addressing a bunch of afro-Americans there would have been a huge outcry in the press. He got the sentiment right but his true color(s) came through. ;)
Posted by: Mr. Small Town | April 12, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
wow obama is for the people,baloney is that why he has bundlers that are billionair oil men,is that why he made thease statements at a fundraiser at gettys house[come on people getty oil]is that why according to the wall street jounal that he has taken more money from employees of the big drug companies and large commercial banks than either hillary or mcain.yea he is really for the small person and im going to be the next lottery winner because he told me i was.
Posted by: don tufts | April 12, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA
Hillary and Bill profits financially from Columbian trade deals ,which she supposedly opposes,These are important issues PA voters should considered.
Obama 08!
Yes We Can!
Posted by: merle7 | April 12, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Obama campaign’s frustation behind the close doors has come out in open. The people at least got the glimpse of respect they get when they are not hyponitized by Great Obama speeches. Didn’t we heard similar languages in some blogs. Follower speaks as their leader speak(remember Samantha Power), but, Obama never let that out in open till now.
Posted by: Humm | April 12, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
The real story here is that the RNCC, RNC and The Clinton campaign seem to be working in cahoots to attempt to knock Obama out of the race. The story here should be how Clinton has joined forces with the devil (oops I mean the GOP) to make a big deal out of nothing. It’s the weekend and they have nothing to do. The truth is that the GOP fears running against Obama much more than Clinton. WHy? because they know they will be in uncharted waters. And that he will have almost double their financial resources. The GOP has spent 2 years carefully planning a campaign against Clinton and now they’re in a panic because they don’t know what to do about Obama and his newfound political prowess.
You know, The RNC is a joke. And though I respect sen. Clinton, I think she is 2 steps away from becoming a GOP member. Sen. Clinton wants to paint this image of being a big fighter but is she? Obama is sustaining himself and fending off attacks on two fronts.
The GOP campaigns by appealing to people’s fears ang ignorance. I always held the democratic party on a higher pedestal because they have been more progressive over the past 60 years and they seek to educate the public.
Who here has not once felt betrayed or let down by their government? Who? Job loss is not a political tactic. Job loss is a real problem for Americans. Obama is telling the truth when describing their emotional state. “Bitter” is an accurate term to use. So, because Obama once again told the truth, he is getting attacked for it.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Hillary joining league with the Republicans to talk about “liberal elitists” is just plain shameful. I hope people see thru this wedge issue BS. Obama should just keep speaking the truth and standing up for common sense and reality.
Posted by: Ruth | April 12, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
This whole fiasco has inspired me to switch from Obama to Hillary. It’s obvious who the elitist is. Men are responsible for 9/11. Think about it. Men built the towers, men in the white house, Bin Laden is a man, men hijacked the planes. Men are evil. Rise Hillary Rise!
HILLARY ’08!
Posted by: Matt | April 12, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Humm, or any Clinton supporter,
Without resorting to useless campaign rhetoric, I challenge you to explain to me how what Obama said was a bad thing. Please? I am at a loss.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Obama’s words were clear enough — no need for apoligists to utter nonsense about what he meant.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Well the Hillary campaign has been trying to tell you all….not to trust Obama. It isn’t to late “Thank God” if the remaining states all pull together this night mare will be over. It could have been worst we could have had 4 years. My mother-in-law is from Noxen, PA…she is a good person, raised her family, worked hard all her life. She will turn 100 June 5th Pa.She was sadden to think someone would down grade hard working people….my fahter-in-law lost his father when he was 4…in the Coal Mines….Obama has no insite to these people…he wasn’t even born. The children of this age remember all this and to think he would look down on people who build PA and raised there family there and many lost husbands in these mines has no insight of America. So if you want to let him smooth all this over….go ahead VOTE for him. Only thing he wants is to be the first “Black President”. With a $400,000.00 pay check. And a wife who would be a “JOKE” for a “First Lady”. I would think he has plans for Rev. Wright….maybe move in to the “White House” since he is the one who he looks up to as a father figure. Then the whole bunch can tell you this is the way it is going to be! You all better get smart!!!!!!!!
Posted by: sag | April 12, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Great! But too many words.
How about McCains wealthy wife will bring some BUSINESS to samm towns.
Not just beer, but Business to make it.
Then you will have a right to tell something about been ‘ in touch” with middle class.
Posted by: Linda,Fl | April 12, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Can someone please answer my question!!!!??? HOW WAS OBAMA’s comment a bad statement????
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I can’t believe the Obama supporters twist the facts to concede his fault. Yes, the small town people may be angry and bitter, but we’re not turning to guns, religion, antipathy and anti immigrants.
Posted by: SF2008 | April 12, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Linda,fl,
You mean the same way Bush’s rich life has? Being a rich and wealthy politician has never proven to be an economic success for the country… Try again please.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Democrats United
Obama associated with thugs and lo-lifes in Chicago. He was clearly rewarded for his association with known crooks. He graduated from Harvard and has made millions.
Don’t give us this stuff about a poor boy. It doesn’t match the facts.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
SF2008,
Thank you for answering my question in part anyway. You know as well as I do that Obama meant that people turn to other political issues when voting. The point is, when you can’t vote for someone because of an issue that matters to you most, like JOB CREATION, you have to look at other issues like religion, guns, abortion, etc. WHy is this so hard for people to get?
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
To Democrats United, Obama’s statement reflects the attitude of criticism. Voters wants to know what can a Potential candidate offer to fix their problem than humilating them. Good leader focus on issues and not on people. Obama’s statement were only words without solution.
Posted by: Humm | April 12, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Democrats United
That is NOT what Obama said when he though he wasn’t being recorded. Stop reading things into his words that weren’t there. Obama is pandering — plain and simple. Delude yourself if you will but don’t try to convince us that his words weren’t what he intended!
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Humm,
Ok, maybe you didn’t understand my request. I wanted an explanation WITHOUT campaign rhetoric. “words without action” sounds to me like you are on the Clinton payroll. I don’t want to assume that about you so, please answer my question without the Clinton sound bite playbook. Oh, and how is simply stating that people feel bitter about Washington’s uselessness belittling them? I just don’t get it. It’s the truth. People feel a sense of bitterness towards their Government when they don’t come through for them. So, please person to person… Explain this to me.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
While Hillary is so concerned about working class Americans, she should be careful not to let on that her husband is pocketing money from her Columbian friends.
Posted by: Ray | April 12, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I’m live in PA and Hillary Clinton is ridiculous!!! She is the out-of-touch and elitist candidate. I cannot believe how desperate she has become to win this nomination. Did you hear her say that the pledged delegates should deny the popular vote in states where she lost and have them cast their vote for her!! I AM BITTER! Speaking the truth is not demeaning. What is demeaning is her attempts to handle the American public with kids’ gloves and attempt to overturn the democratic process in her favor. Enough Hillary! Go buy an island someplace and enjoy your millions.
Posted by: FromPAWithLove | April 12, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
S,
You still haven’t told me what he intended. Post his exact quote and tell me what you think he meant by it. I am trying to get a sense of understanding from it.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Stay Focus Obama!
They are peddling you into Victory. TWO gainst ONE and no doubt you will emmerge as the WINNER
Posted by: Jetty | April 12, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Democrats United
So, you admit Obama was pandering. Good — that’s a start.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
To Democrats United, I am not on any side or anyone pays me. What should an average person like me should interpret from “It’s not surprising [that people] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations” Does it sound like criticism or does it sounds like Solution?
Posted by: Humm | April 12, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Democrats United
I really could careless I am 60 years old …I am all set in life…so are my kids..I don’t need to lie to you or anyone else…those are facts…this is my mother-in-law NOT grandmother of course someone who supports Obama reads things that are not there….is it hard for you to read a book and understand it? ….Look who is stupid…. or you don’t understand.. YOU ARE BOTH! I won’t reply back you are not worth my time.
Posted by: sag | April 12, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
S,
I haven’t admitted to anything. But if you want to go there, I will admit that what I git from his statements is that he was panderings to people’s concerns about the future of the job market in that state. How is this any different than what Sen. Clinton has done??
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
PA voters should open their eyes and remember who has received 80 000 for supporting the Colombia trade deal, it is part of Hill and Bill’s 109 million earnings. That is the reality. This cahracterization of Obama’s words is another way of distracting voters from serious issues which is their jobs are gone and their health plan and their pension because of trade deals signed and supported by Hill and Bill. While hard working amercians have lost their jobs, Hill and Bill earned 109 million including 800 000 to ship over their jobs to Colombia. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 12, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Democrats United
What in the world does whatever Clinton has done justify what Obama has done. Are you simple choosing the lesser of two evils or something?
How about issues instead of reverse guilt by association. And, in that regard, exactly what issues has Obama proposed a decent solution to?
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
It is one thing for people who actually live in small town America to be offended. It is quite another for Senators Clinton and McCain to be. They are not offended, the are offensive.
Posted by: Nobody's fool | April 12, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
For staters I”am from a little town in s.e.ohio I’AM angry, and i do have a weapon oops.and a proud veteran!!whats all the shuck&jive about Obama?one Obama Is’nt a lifer of Washington D.C.That’s made millions of dollars off the american tax payer.like Mcain& Clinton has. and others that has sold america to other countries. ILOST AGOOD PAYING factory job to mexico, so sorry if I’am not a clinton lover.seems like we have to many american communist running this country to hell in a hand bag.and most still vote these people in office, what a shame!we need change!it seems that these lifers talk out of both sides of their mouths depends who they are talking to the working class or the big business it seems that big business alway’s prevails now don’t it?there seems to be a lot of 7-8 dollar an hour jobs that took the place of good paying jobs thanks again clintons. can you feel me? we as Americans need to think out side the box instead of in side the box like most politicans wants us to. they want to do the thinking for us, so wake up.our constitution is going to hell also, do you still feel me. wake up america!!! so GOD BLESS AMERICA, AND ALL VETERANS!!!!!
Posted by: David R. Howell | April 12, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Sag,
Congratulations on being “set in life”. I mean that. That is the American dream. Unfortunately the Majority of America still haven’t achieved it. I see now, why you sound like a GOPer. I too have mothers and grandparents that have worked all of their lives. I have worked ever since I was legally old enough to do so. I know what is like to lose jobs do to no fault of your own. I know what that feeling is like when your leader looks at the situation and basically goes “man it must be tough…” Obama simply told the truth about people’s emotional feelings. WHY IS THAT BAD??
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Obama use the “Unify” theme to distract the real issues like the economy, health care. Americans are not united? We do! Remember 9/11, everyone’s united to fight the terrorists. We’re united when the country is in danger. Now, if said Americans are not united enough, then what would accomplish if we united more, better life? This is a vague issue, and you can’t have better life if the ecomony is in recession. Just like Obama’s Hope campaign, you can’t pay your bills with hope.
Posted by: Sherry | April 12, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Wow. This is really bad. Its spreading like wildfire, faster than the Jeremiah Wright stuff. This actually hurts a lot, because I have a lot of family in small town Virginia that were supporting Obama like I am, and just are very disappointed.
Posted by: Latrice Jackson | April 12, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
David R. Howell
You’re long on assertions and short on facts?
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
S,
You HAVE STILL YET to tell me WHY is Obama’s statement a bad statement. Is it untrue??? You keep trying to change the subject. I want to know why this is a big deal.
Oh, and Clinton panders, McCain panders, every politician does it. I still fail to see your point.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Obama just won my vote AGAIN. I now see more clear than ever how he is seriously challenging the political status quo that, in this controversy, is being defended by both Hillary and the GOP.
Hillary should be truly ashamed of herself. She’s turning her back on the millions of folks that have been left out thanks to Bill’s free trade deals, the deals he is STILL lobbying for, and Hillary is earning millions from it. SO SHAMELESS!
Hillary is all luxury liberalism, all politics as business, all power = money philosophy.
The DNC should simply throw her out, and all her hysterical supporters with her, for once again choosing the GOP side against the frontrunner in the Democratic race. What a terrible woman, and one of the worst politicians that ever took part in a presidential race.
Posted by: burton | April 12, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Latrice Jackson,
Its not as bad as you think. Don’t be surprised if Obama walks away a stronger candidate after this. Remember that the Wright situation helped narrow Clinton’s lead in PA to single digits.
Just looking at the stupidity of this story and how much it seems that Clinton is working with the RNC these days, I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama gains 10 more superdelegates next week.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
BKMC,
You seem to think that all this attention and condemnation of Obama’s unforgivable perception of small town America is somehow a creation of Clinton. Obama said these words on Billionaire’s Row with the Press excluded for the day. There was barely a mention of his 4-stop tour that day to the most exclusive areas of San Francisco by the Press. Well surprise, someone memorialized his true self!
He owns it.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 12, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I’m tired of Obama talking down to me. I hate it when he lifts his head and looks down his nose like he’s talking to dolts. He loves to flail his arms and point his fingers like a man possessed while he drones away.
What is he trying to prove anyway except that he’s above the rest of us?
Posted by: Aston | April 12, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
This is conspiracy between Republicans and Hillary Clinton. They are blowing it out of proportion.The truth hurts. Obama let’s hear your plan for rural America?
Posted by: Sherrie | April 12, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
This may work to open their eyes. If they see Obama’s campaign imploding, they may decide they don’t want to go down with it and switch their SD votes to Hillary. You know politicians. What’s best for THEM is what’s important, so YES, this may work in HILLARY’S favor. WooHoo! Keep talkin’ off-the-cuff Mr. Hope. Open mouth, insert Bali covered foot.
Posted by: Vickie | April 12, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Burton posted:
“The DNC should simply throw her out, and all her hysterical supporters with her”
ELITISM!! ARROGANCE!!!
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 12, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Democrat United,
Obama doesn’t understand. People do vote for candidates and issues that are matter to them. We’re not substitute the “real” issues to guns and religions as he suggusts.
Posted by: sf2008 | April 12, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Aston,
So let me see if I got this straight… Obama is talking down to you because he said People feel bitter when their govenment looks the other way on their problems??? Or did you just decide that when your candidate of choice told you to take it that way?
I am tired of Senator Clinton talking to me like I’m an idiot that does not understand English. I am tired of Clinton pandering to my fears. I am tired of how much Clinton, supposedly a democrat is starting to sound like a republican. I am tired of Clinton thinking America doesn’t have 10th grade education and can’t read between the lines. I am tired of Clinton trying to make a non issue of something to cover up her lies that her and her husband has been telling all week long.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
So Obama told “the truth” at a fund-raising event with rich liberals in liberal San Francisco??? LOL!!! So why hasn’t he spoken “the truth” in the small towns he has been visiting for votes??? Why in front of rich liberal urbanites in San Francisco instead of in front of the voters he has mentioned?? Obama is a fraud!
Does anyone else see the mad SPINNING being done by the Obamatons???
Posted by: libby | April 12, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Democrats United
It’s a twisted mind that can read all of that nonsense into what I posted.
Posted by: Aston | April 12, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
sf2008,
That is not necessarily true. After the 2004 election where Bush won Ohio, the exit polls showed that bush won on moral and christian values. That sounds like religion over the issues to me.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
ASton,
You were the one who said Obama was talkiung down to you. Maybe you’d like to explain how.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
That is not true and you know it!
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Giving the deillusioned and left out Americans a voice in politics, as Obama did with his remarks, must be the worst nightmare for the GOP.
Republicans try to keep these folks as small as possible by shouting how GREAT America is and how WONDERFUL and FANTASTIC the American Dream.
So, if you do not succeed in life as you’d wish, if you feel exasperated and betrayed by the government, don’t DARE to complain about America, you losers! – that’s what the Republicans have told these folks time and again.
They’ve grown bitter. They’re angry.
And then there’s Obama, and HE says: folks, you’re right about being angry. I understand your bitterness. Nobody has listened to you before. And if they did, it was election time, and they all forgot about it on their way back to Washington.
But Obama won’t go away, he’s winning the race, and he won’t forget these folks’ depair about their family’s future. He is the first TRUE fighter for them in many decades. He has put them on the political map. Yes, these small town folks are going to be thankful to the man from Chicago.
And I should know, for I was raised by and among these folks.
Posted by: Trent | April 12, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Democrats United
I did silly. Re-read the post.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
questioner
Wells said!
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
S,
All you have said is that Obama’s statement was pandering. Well, Clinton has done the same thing. Again, Why is this an issue?
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
REPUBLICANS WILL LOSE THIS ONE ALSO. DEMS WILL UNITE. yOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO THREATEN ANYONE.
Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
The Republican National Convention is using this situation to deflect attention from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Currently, we’re spending more than $12 billion in this war, and the Republicans will shout at anyone to deflect attention from their party’s responsibility in the war. We need to choose better leaders in the coming election. We cannot afford McCain’s “100 years” of war. My friends in Iraq are witnessing the deaths of their friends. Let us remember how this all started – with President Bush and his followers.
Posted by: Allen | April 12, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Questioner,
You are an idiot. I normally don’t respond to idiots but I would love here you explain how just because you received something from TreeHouse and Tree House is “connected” to Wal-mart, he is lying about his original statement. Wal Mart does business with Thousands of US corporations. They have to because they sell products from thousands of different companies. So I guess since I eat Kellog cereal, which Wal-mart sells, then I must be in support of Wal-Mart’s horrindous labor practices?? get real.
Posted by: Democrats United | April 12, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
If local reporters ask these members of Congress what they think of Obama’s remarks, that could extend this story and hurt him with all-important superdelegates. That’s the NRCC’s hope, anyway.
Republicans want Hillary as the Dem. nominee. Lets take a good look what they could use against her in a GE?
she was once 1 of them
Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Lauren
Everyone needs a dream.
Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Obama’s “bitter” comments are poison for any Democrat with a small town constituency (meaning most Democrats in Congress). Obama is out there trying to defend his words, saying things like, “I didn’t say it as well as I should have.” The problem is not how he said it, the problem is the substance of what he said, which is equating pro-gun, pro-religion, and anti-immigration attitudes with bitterness and frustration. He needs to say “I was wrong.” He cannot go around saying “I was right, but said it wrong.”
Obama’s supporters are complaining that Hillary is hammering Obama with this. Of course she is, she has to. She has to make it clear that she does not agree with Obama, because the Republicans are already trying to pin Obama’s words on all Democrats. Democrats have to strongly condemn these words in order to stay viable in small town America.
Posted by: David H. | April 12, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Hillary is she loving this? The republican machinery going after the dems. Will she sit back and watch? Will she stand up and be accounted for.
Attack Barack okay attck fellow dems. lets see how long she keeps her mouth shut.
She kept it shut when she was on the Walmart board.
For a woman who demands loyalty lets see where her loyalty is.
Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Hey Bush does the truth hurt so lets shut up the truth. John McCain keep letting our service personel keep dying for a war that we dont belong in.
Americans have felt for a very long time that washington does not listen . and we are bitter and we are tired of the deal making going on with little to no thought of the people who put them there…
washingtn Elites have plenty of money. If they lose their spot in washington they can sell out and make millions being lobbyist. Where small town America just doesnt have a chance in Hell to survive what you people deal out.
Obama 08
Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
From the Clinton camp: “We don’t need the pundits to tell us what we think. In the words of that old Hank Williams song, ‘We’re country folks and we will survive.”
Hillary and the GOP cling to the Hollywood version of small town and rural America. They like it kitschy. The folks are wonderful, rolled up sleeves, doing just fine. They will survive, so why should Washington care?
Obama will tell you the truth. It may hurt. If you can’t stand it, go ahead and vote for a lie.
Posted by: ken | April 12, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Wow, this is really becoming a …..
wait for it….
…a Non-story. Of course the RNCC is hopping on this, because they know their base is in rural America and they need stop the bleeding of their constituents.
Posted by: Ed S | April 12, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
people just look at all the response for obama. rich liberal elistes they are going to be running the country soon because they don’t have to work for a living
Posted by: mik | April 12, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
democrats united>
>>>>> BUT IT’S OK FOR B O
to smear Hillary’s name for her association with Walmart’s Board….and imply that their lack of unions is her fault.
Well, if that’s true , then the association of Michelle’s job and her quarter of a million dollar income from Tree-house should be considered equally offensive.
What’s sauce for the goose, etc. etc.
As for Walmart in those days:
When you shopped at a Walmart, the clerks were pleasant and the working conditions were clean and well organized.
I don’t know how much the clerks were paid… probably no more no less than those who worked in other big box stores…
But I know they earned Walmart stock along with their paychecks, and in the front of each store was a big sign showing the worth of that stock as it rose and it rose on a daily basis.
So maybe in those days, they didn’t NEED a union because when those employees retired , they all had a smile on their faces and a lot of valuable stock in their portfolios.
Posted by: questioner | April 12, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Democrates United,
Last I checked Obama was not ‘raised in a small town in KS’, he was raised in Hawaii. Next time you plan on listing your ‘facts’, please get them right, esp. when they are about your own candidate.
If you can’t understand why Obama saying these things to rich CA liberals is offensive to small town people, then no amount of explaining will help you.
Another point to be made: he stated this as a response to why he is having trouble getting small town, blue collar votes. He is basically saying “they aren’t voting for me because they are bitter about their situation”. Maybe he should take a look at himself instead of blaming his shortcomings on “bitter” people in small towns. So arrogant.
Posted by: me | April 12, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Democrat United,
Most of Clintons money was made AFTER they left the Whitehouse through book deals etc. They have also been working for 20 or so years longer than GOD.
Posted by: J | April 12, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Obama said these words to a group of donors all the way across the country from PA, in SFO. He did not speak these words to the people he was referring to. Why? They would have been incensed.
He is a fraud.
He has zero tact (a major requirement when working with congress, citizens, and world leaders).
He needs to go.
Now.
Posted by: Lin | April 12, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Hey S IF YOU CAN’T SEE WHAT’S GOING ON THEN YOUR JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE POLITIANS THAT HAS SOLD AMERICA DOWN THE RIVER DO US ALL A FAVOR DON’T GO IN TO POLITICS. STAY HOME AND BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND
Posted by: David R. Howell | April 12, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Democrats United,
Sen. Obama said: “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations…”
The problem with Sen. Obama’s statement is that he seems to be telling “small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest” (and everyone else, for that matter) that THE ONLY REASON they support issues like the Second Amendment, support prayer in school; support keeping the national motto “In God We Trust” on our money; support keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance; support the definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman; support the enforcement of our immigration laws; and are vocal (either for or) against free trade, is because they are bitter that the federal government isn’t doing more to help small town America get their jobs back.
Sen. Obama is actually belittling those who hold these issues dear to their heart as doing so just because they are supposedly bitter. And in doing so, Sen. Obama gives the impression that these issues aren’t meaningful issues. That the only REAL issue is jobs. The truth of the matter is that many individuals strongly believe and strongly support these issues because they are deeply committed to these issues.
Posted by: James Danley | April 12, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Casey is finished and he will not even come out and issue a statement in our defense. Any superdelegate who comes out in Obama’s defense on this, or takes too long to issue a statement can kiss their a** goodbye in the next election.
I would rather cling to my guns and faith then sit in the pews of Wright for 20 yrs.
If Obama wants to discuss bitterness he should look in the mirror and then go find Michelle and Rev. Wright.
That is what bitterness really is.
Posted by: Blair Pittsburgh Pa | April 12, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
To the NRCC………that is hysterical. Clinton could never have pulled this stunt off. I voted for Clinton and I cannot stop laughing. Oh man, I really owe you guys one. I’ll tell you what if Clinton doesn’t win the nomination I will pay you back with a vote for McCain.
Posted by: Mark David | April 12, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
The story here is Clinton’s despicable behavior. McCain is not much better on this one.
Obama will be the best President since FDR if not Lincoln. And I can’t wait to see the look on Cheney’s face when President Obama is sworn in- God willing.
Posted by: Doug M | April 12, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
I’m pretty cynical, but i have to say, today takes the cake
if Obama loses because people buy this molehill argument that somehow he hates guns and God, then we DESERVE four more years of Bush
Posted by: Tad | April 12, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Just as a follow up, it may well be a fact that some people are bitter because they lost their job. Had Sen. Obama said THAT, then he wouldn’t have cause such a stir. But he LINKED that bitterness as to why people support the other issues. That is what was wrong with his statement.
Posted by: James Danley | April 12, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
DON’T BE DUPED !!!
Large numbers of Republicans have been voting for Barack Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primaries, and caucuses from early on. Because they feel he would be a weaker opponent against John McCain. With Hillary Clinton you are almost 100% certain to get quality, affordable universal health care very soon.
But first, all of you have to make certain that Hillary Clinton takes the democratic nomination and then the Whitehouse. NOW! is the time. THIS! is the moment you have all been working, and waiting for. You can do this America. “Carpe diem” (harvest the day).
I think Hillary Clinton see’s a beautiful world of plenty for all. She’s a woman, and a mother. And it’s time America. Do this for your-selves, and your children’s future. You will have to work together on this and be aggressive, relentless, and creative. Americans face an even worse catastrophe ahead than the one you are living through now.
You see, the medical and insurance industry mostly support the republicans with the money they ripped off from you. And they don’t want you to have quality, affordable universal health care. They want to be able to continue to rip you off, and kill you and your children by continuing to deny you life saving medical care that you have already paid for. So they can continue to make more immoral profits for them-selves.
Hillary Clinton has actually won by much larger margins than the vote totals showed. And lost by much smaller vote margins than the vote totals showed. Her delegate count is actually much higher than it shows. And higher than Obama’s. She also leads in the electoral college numbers that you must win to become President in the November national election. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALREADY THE TRUE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
As much as 30% of Obama’s primary, and caucus votes are Republicans trying to choose the weakest democratic candidate for McCain to run against. These Republicans have been gaming the caucuses where it is easier to vote cheat. This is why Obama has not been able to win the BIG! states primaries. Even with Republican vote cheating help.
Hillary Clinton has been OUT MANNED! OUT GUNNED! and OUT SPENT! 4 and 5 to 1. Yet Obama has only been able to manage a very tenuous, and questionable tie with Hillary Clinton.
If Obama is the democratic nominee for the national election in November he will be slaughtered. Because the Republican vote cheating help will suddenly evaporate. All of this vote fraud and republican manipulation has made Obama falsely look like a much stronger candidate than he really is. YOUNG PEOPLE. DON’T BE DUPED! Think about it. You have the most to lose.
The democratic party needs to fix this outrage. Everyone needs to throw all your support to Hillary Clinton NOW! So you can end this outrage against YOU the voter, and against democracy.
The democratic party, and the super-delegates have a decision to make. Are the democrats, and the democratic party going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee to fight for the American people. Or are the republicans going to choose the DEMOCRATIC party nominee through vote fraud, and gaming the DEMOCRATIC party primaries, and caucuses.
Fortunately the Clinton’s have been able to hold on against this fraudulent outrage with those repeated dramatic comebacks of Hillary Clinton’s. Only the Clinton’s are that resourceful, and strong. Hillary Clinton is your NOMINEE. They are the best I have ever seen.
“This is not a game” (Hillary Clinton)
Sincerely
jacksmith…
Posted by: jacksmith | April 12, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
OF COURSE OBAMA said what he said.
Any YES, he meant it the way he said it! It did sound sort of arrogant and condescending.
I should know, I was there in Marin when he said it.
Posted by: ELITIST | April 13, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Don’t blame me for future President McCain. We caucused for Edwards. Lol, the GOP has not run scared since the DEMS ran that ad against Goldwater with the little girl picking daisies.
Posted by: 24hrlib | April 13, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Obama now has a coverup problem. He clearly views conservative voters as rationality challenged by religion and parochialism. Though he feels that way, he now suggests he never intended to say such a thing. His credibility now stands negatively affected. His spinmasters further erode his credibility by failing to concede this makes him unelectable.
Posted by: edfairness | April 13, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Just Words?? …”Don’t tell me words don’t matter..” – Barack H. Obama
Sooooo, What does Michelle O. think about small town Americans??? I would LOOOVVE to hear what SHE has to say! LOL!!
Come on Axelrod, let Michelle speak!!!
The Obamas ~ The True BITTER Americans!
Posted by: NO2Hate | April 13, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Sounds like the NRCC is trying to goad Democrats into rallying to Obama’s defense. They’ve been gaming our primary all along.
*****A
Posted by: Adrienne in CA | April 13, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am
Bitter, Angry and Mad as Hell,
Yes i am bitter, and all of you should be too.
Ask your Senator, what happen in the closed door investigation of “why 13 billion dollars in U.S. cash was flown to Iraq, and then dissappeared?”.
It will show up in the Republican push for the Presidence I bet you.
Ask why Bush and the big oil is sucking the life out of Americans.
Ask why Chaney, and Halliburton is still getting big contract that you are paying for.
I am bitter because I am not afraid to look at the truth of what is happening.
A lot of you voted for Bush on MORAL issues in 2000 and 2004, It is IMMORAL for what they are doing to you and your children and grandchildren.
You should be bitter, if you have a brain that has any common sense.
Posted by: American9 | April 13, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
jgaw said:foolish and emotional is to blame president bill clinton issues on Hillary
one minute you obama supporters are talking about how insignificant she was as first lady
and on the other hand-you talk as if she was responsible for everything that happened in bill’ presidency.
She takes credit for the good in his administration so why not the bad? You Hillary Clinton supporters are just mad because your cnadidate is behind and every opportunity she gets to exploit something she does. She is dirty and arrogant as well. She thought the contest would be over by February 5th, um WRONG!!! Now instead of being proactive she has to be reactive. She can’t even run her own campaign in a decent and orderly fashion. How can she run an entire nation? If this is any indication of what we will see in the White House then you can keep it.
Posted by: Dennis in Orlando, FL | April 13, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
well unless you obama supporters can find a way to vote twice in the primary
and twice in the general
the person you want to win-obama will not win.
he cannot win the wh without
fl
mi
hillary supporters
and now-mad small town voters-and it seems to me-it makes no difference how you spin it now-they are mad and will let him know in the only way they know how-and that is to not vote for him
besides according to obama and his in the pocket dem party bigwigs. floridians in orlando will not have a say.
and I guess according to your reasoning that is hillary’s fault too.
It shows just how emotional this has become for you.
if you are so sure you guy obama is the right one-and this election is in the bag for him
why do you have to resort to calling hillary names-she looks pretty clean to me.
I don’t see any more arrogance in hillary than I see in obama
obama takes for granted black people will vote for him.
and hillary clinton has done some good for the people of this country
no matter how emotional you get in saying she has not.
Posted by: jgaw | April 13, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
orlando fl,
I know you would like to have a say in this-but according to dean and co.
(obama supporters one and all)
you are on punishment and you have been silenced.
Posted by: jgaw | April 13, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
In Obamas warped vison,if you own a gun,oppose gay marriage or want our borders sealed your’e just bitter over your lousy job. Amazingly, he even sees the embrace of God as a reaction to the bad economy. GO AWAY SNOB-AMA!!
Posted by: James B. | April 13, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Psst….Bush won with the rural vote.
What idiot would insult them, their religion, and their sport or source of food, who they vote for, why they vote for them, as well as insulting them for rightly blaming globalization, all the while calling them racists at least twice in the whole quote?
A candidate looking for a scapegoat for his racism….that’s who.
Posted by: No bama | April 13, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Obama’s comment sounds “bitter” apparently because small town American has not fawned over him. After all isn’t he the candidate that said something to the effect that the only rason people don’t like him is because they haven’t met him. It appears that not everyone buys the smiling in your face, talking about you behind your back that is “typical” of he and Michelle. Yes let every black person vote for me but let the white people sit up front. Black people go to the back of the bus.
Posted by: winning0853 | April 13, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Are Democrats willing to go down with Obama? Carville said Richardson is a liar. Who do you believe. The newly goateed one is a flaming liar.
Posted by: geevill | April 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
defending the indefensible. that should be Obama’s mantra
Posted by: poetryman69 | April 13, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
The Bible says alie will find you out.I believe obamas lies are finding him out.I believe that the likes of Dean,Kennedy and Dashall,Kerry,and Pelosi have done more damage to the Democratic party than we can overcome for years to come.I can only hope all of them get booted out when the REpublicans win the General and we can all thank them for four more years of great things for the rich. But then we will have to hear the whining from the blacks because unlike Bill Clinton,G Bush has done nada for yhem.
Posted by: pAT jOHNSTON | April 13, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Why is the NRCC delving into Democratic primary politics? Do they think they can poach on the number of moderate Republicans that switched their party affiliation? Do they respect their vote better now than when they dismissively labeled them RINOs (Republican in name only)?
I thought conservatives were interested in running against whomever is elected by the Democratic base. What business do they have sticking their nose in what Democrat superdelegates are doing?
Press releases don’t cost money. Spending time writing out horrific diatribes about race as a card liberals throw about DOES NOT COST MONEY. Why don’t they run ads and spend some serious money so they can deplete their GE coffers? Then they can really show the PA and other states remaining they care.
Are they suffering from a lack of media attention because their candidates ran a 20 to 25 state run? Why not get Fox News and other conservative outlets to gin up right wing propaganda instead of leeching onto our primary?
Posted by: Genna | April 14, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Senator Casey should rescind his endorsement of Obama immediately. Where does Obama get off making his derogatory comments about PA and small-town America? Casey ran on a pro-life campaign, but Obama is for partial-birth abortion and vetoed manadatory life-saving treatment for babies born alive during an abortion. Obama and his campaign forgets that he supported the Nafta expansion bill in 2007.
Posted by: Jilly | April 14, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm