Obama-Backing Senator Attacks McCain’s War Experience

Jake – you have a way of making “Obama-backing” sound derogatory.

What a Disgrace Rockafellar is I guess he thinks the terrorists who send in children with vest are tough and care about people.
Is Obama going to denounce Him, if not that means Obama thinks that too!
McCain is not only a true war hero, but a caring individual who was stood by his men in arms, for when he was to be released from being a POW he refused saying he would go when the rest go!
But the libs support a man like Kerry who shot a man in the back, got purple hearts for getting a splinter.
No Lib deserves to be commander and Chief of this country!

In the meantime let’s not forget that Rockefeller is a MUCH greater, MUCH more important and respected Senator that John McCain…
I don’t agree with his choice of words (though these may be inspired by knowing McCain personally pretty well) but I support the idea that military people make bad Presidents, as good as they may have been as soldiers or generals.

Are you joking? The “politics of hope” is a tactic not a truth. Obama through the use of surrogates and his campaign will move quickly to accuse McCain of racism…That charge and a media willing to advance his campaign’s “talking points” as truths is how Obama has attacked Clinton throughout the campaign. Of course Obama will sit on top of the food chain and insist he doesn’t have a clue what’s going on.
The scary thing is that our media is an integral part of this process. During this election our media has traveled the distance from “unbiased” news sources to tabloid journalism without an outcry from the public.

Obama (and his supporters) are the George W Bush of the Democrats! Nothing but a swiftboater! He can’t show that he admirably served this country in any way possible, so he has to malign a veteran to break him down. He already has people thinking Bill Clinton is a racist.

Well, Spock, you certainly show YOUR true colors as you bash Senator Rockefeller (note correct spelling), while swiftboating John Kerry.
John McCain’s military experiece WAS vastly different from that of the ground combat soldier. And pilots experience in Vietnam was quite different from those in WWII. Certainly, pilots today are even more removed from “the enemy.”
Senator McCain’s anger issues have been noted before. Whether PTSD or just plain old anger, I can’t say.
But despite his military experience, Senator McCain has shown he is not fit to be president in these trying times.
Support the Troops — bring them HOME!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Let’s stop taking people’s comments out of context.
I don’t know the full context, but Jay Rockefeller has been around a lot of years and what’s being posted sounds out of character.
Look at what was done to Dr Wright – a few carefully edited soundbites and the meaning is reversed.

I had been told by a media relations person working for the Democrats that they were looking to “return the favor” to McCain for the way the Republicans treated Kerry and his service in Vietnam. I cannot believe they actually decided to try this. There have been some trial balloons going up in the past few weeks (e.g., the story about how McCain “destroyed” expensive fighter planes), but this appears to be the first serious effort.
Moreover, I cannot believe that Rockefeller was so ham-fisted in the way he did it. A guy who spent years in a POW camp being tortured doesn’t know the facts on the ground?
This is truly the kind of comment that Obama should distance himself from as fast as he can.
The problem is that McCain is a nightmare candidate for the Dems. He served honorably. His children are serving in Iraq. All the tired “chickenhawk” attacks are not going to work on him.

OK, let’s pause for a moment and look at Obama’s war experience.
Are we finished yet?
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Obama for bonehead-in-chief!
Obama-in-perspective: I was against the war during a time when I could not do anything about it. Now that I can, I vote to continually fund it all the time!
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Tom J,
Jay Rockefeller was the scorn of the Kos Kossacks until he came aboard Obama’s campaign. Now they’ve gone silent on him. By the way, when John Kerry made his awkward comments about Obama being good for Muslim relationships, Kerry was excoriated by Kos and company. Now that Kerry is on board the Obama campaign, again, they’ve gone strangely silent.
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Vote Obama so you can get it both ways!
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I am not a McCain supporter but I think it is an outrage to smear McCain’s war record. Bush’s GOP did this to McCain, Kerry, Murtha and others. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now. Fighting in defense of America is something that should always be respected and honored, whether Dem or Repub.

People like Rockefeller make me sick!!!
I rather have a man whom is PROUD OF HIS COUNTRY and SERVED IT WELL, than a man as Barack Obama, whom gives “GOOD SPEECHES ONLY!!!!

Heh! Mr. God Bless America Man! It’s not too late to get your daughters signed up for ROTC. Let’s get them ready for the Military. I think it’s time the future President’s children (girls or boys) should serve time in the Military, Just like Prince Harry did from England!!!!

According to Democrat Senator Reid and other Democrats, Obama should pull out since he has not gain ground.
Also they said the Democrats should resign from Office due to the congress not making gains!!
Libs follow your own rules please and resign!!

See 29 July 1967 in McCain’s career.
No Mike, that isn’t a comment of desperation. It is just the comment of another Harvard grad with too much money and no class. This is his vote on the Iraq war:
“There has been some debate over how ‘imminent’ a threat Iraq poses. I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. It is in the nature of these weapons, and the way they are targeted against civilian populations, that documented capability and demonstrated intent may be the only warning we get. To insist on further evidence could put some of our fellow Americans at risk. Can we afford to take that chance? We cannot!”
He should get perspective before he goes after McCain from 35,000 feet.

Poor democrats. They know so well that Obama is an empty suit, and they have to prop him up as often as possible.
Just read over at gateway pundit how the Michelle Obama speech event people were removing people from behind the stage to get more white people on camera. “We need more white people.” LOL. They actually removed non-whites so it would look like lots of whites were big fans.
This whole Obama campaign charade is so staged and choreographed it’s hilarious. Remember the directions for Richardson to “turn to Obama and smile”…
LOLOL.

I think Sen. Rockefeller may simply have been trying to make the point that McCain’s war record does not make him a ‘man of the people’ who understands the problems faced by ordinary people struggling to make a living. I am not sure that is an easy argument to make with the surname Rockefeller, but I think it has merit. As much as his war record makes McCain a national treasure, that doesn’t alone qualify him for the Presidency, and what else does he have on his resume to attract him to ordinary voters?

Hey! Thanks for the book plug! Once again, that’s “The Audacity of Hope” from Simon & Schuster, available at fine booksellers near you!

Jackie,
There’s going to be an outcry (PROTEST) about media bias on April 11th, in NYC at Rockefeller Center. Check out a new website called hillaryclintonforum.net.

markymark – When you lie there getting beaten and broken every day let me be the first to point out to you that no one on earth wonders and hopes and prays for humanity more than the beaten and the hopeless like McCain yearned for in that prison cell. And let’s get another thing straight right now, OUR servicemen and women ARE human beings first and foremost. They live AND breath and feel and hurt and die in far away place few of us ever visited. They have families and children and loved ones who care and love in return. No one knows the yearning for humanity like the warrior because it is that very warrior whose life is giving so the rest of us can live in the freedoms we hold so dear.

You’ll have to ask Obama to apologize after he heads a Senate Conformation Hearing for only the second time since January 2007 because he was busy running for President!

Thats Rockerfellers opinion. I dont see how that has anything to do with Obama. I didnt realise now that candidates had to tape shut the mouths of every person who had endorsed them, or sent out a fact sheet of what their opinions must be.

Laser guided bombs in 1967???????? Maybe Sen. Jay Rocky can tell us if there is some sort of alien tech. available at that time for Johnny Mac to use. As for not sensitive to human suffering etc etc, maybe Jay Rocky can tell us how long can he last the nice treatment in Hanoi Hilton. I’d bet Jay Jay would be the very first to get out of the hotel because of the wealth and riches of his great granddaddy. Johnny Mac could get out early from HH because his daddy but he didn’t…where would Jay Jay be w/o his great granddaddy;s wealth…shoeshine boy???

Russell Abbott – Will even ONE of you Obama supporters stand up and demand Obama distance himself immediately from this excuse of a human being?

It is unfair for those on Obama’s campaign train to be attacking McCain for lacking any care for humanity if he was putting his own life on the line to fight for our country. Even if he wasn’t hands on experiencing the devastation that was brought by the bombs America dropped, he and those who fought with him, before him and after him feel the pain that is war more than any of us could ever know.

Rockefeller is a complete imbecile to make remarks such as he did. He is woefully ignorant in general [laser-guided bombs in the sixties? Don't think so.] and a complete fool to disparage the US Armed Forces. But he reflects the Democrat Left Wing such as Biden, Dodd, Fat Teddy, & BoBo Boxer perfectly well.
These elected frauds HATE AMERICA & want to see it fail. They are traitors. Pure and simple.

Where are the Obama supporters now? Too cowardly to defend this guy? They’ll attack Clinton for Ferraro’s remarks however. What a bunch of losers.

McCain fought against Communists. Obama is a Communist. It isn’t rocket science to know that Obama would hate McCain for fighting against his buds. McCain was shot down during a low level attack run.
Rockefeller is just an idiot, and one that doesn’t like Navy aviators.

Mrs. Tiggywinkle – OBAMA-“It’s time to set a hard date to signal a new mission in Iraq and to begin to bring our troops home. It’s time to ensure that we complete the change in mission and the drawdown of our forces, by the end of April 2008 – a date that is consistent with the date in my plan back in January.”
Obama this week: United States should transition to an “over-watch” force of between 60,000 and 80,000 troops by the end of 2010, according to an article Friday in the New York Sun.
Your tired war will not end with Obama. With 80,000 troops left in Iraq the war will go on. That’s just fact. Now deal with it.

Senator Rockefeller will beg for a next term. WV is big time Hillary land.

This is why we will be getting McCain for President. This is why you will being seeing Clinton supporters moving over to McCain. The crap that has come out of the mouth’s of Obama endorsers,
Obama supporters and the pro-Obama media will ensure a McCain win. Not to mention once moveon.org and the rest of the far left starts piping up more aggressively. The American people may not want this war in Iraq but they know right and wrong and the tone of the campaign which will be coming from the Obama side will be one big turn-off.
Personally, if I were the Obama troops I’d play the moral higher ground, as they were supposed to be doing to begin with, because they have too many Wright situation and a candidate with a not very impressive record to be digging too much dirt. Clinton supporters have been less offended by Obama then they have his endorsers, supporters and the media that bows at this feet. There will eventually be a backlash and it will happen in the general. The Obama people have already trashed the two terms of our Democratic President CLinton and deemed it a period where nothing good happened. Then Obama turns around and says he wants to bring us back to the foreign policy traditions of Bush Sr. and Reagan. What kind of joke is this, Clinton=bad and Reagan-good, and this is not the first time Obama has mentioned Reagan, one of our most conservative Presidents. I can’t stand Mark Penn but the only one out there as slimy as him is David Axelrod.
Axelrod has connections to moveon.org which has no business getting involved in the Democratic primaries . They should be focusing on getting the Democrats into the White House once we have a nominee. Disgusting!!!

If the McCain camp is on the ball, they will have a video of Rockefeller’s denigrating remarks about McCain followed by the Obama camp spokesperson saying that Obama agrees with what Senator Rockefeller said. At least that’s what the HRC campaign would do had these things been said about her.

Roja – I agree with you. Even if Clinton had any sense she’d put this in an ad and play this sucker all over PA and every other state left. I would.

Sara – You Obama supporter attacked Clinton for Ferarro’s comments. Why play dumb now?

pt – With help like Rockerfeller’s perhaps you aught to rethink your position. ‘Cause the general is a whole new ballgame. This is already saved for the general. Wright and Rockerfeller coming to a screen near you soon and often.

McCain said so in interviews after his release as a POW that he dropped bombs on innocent women and children in Vietnam. Now he needs to apologize not Obama. The truth will soon be aired about John McCain and his Vietnam days that will make the Swiftboat veternans looks like a bunch of school kids in a sandbox. Don’t think because John hasn’t come under attack YET that somehow we have forgotten all of his statements. If you don’t believe me just start doing some searches on all of his disloyal statements. I leave the verdict to you and say no more. By the way, for anyone who served in Nam a POW doesn’t give you a free pass as a hero with the rest of us vets. There are plenty of decorated vets out there who remember John McCain from Nam and the truth will come out.

@markymark:
You make the newbie mistake that being a “man of the people” is the basic requirement for being a President. Put down your textbook and learn.
A President is a leader of the people, but more importantly, the chief executive of the nation and the commander in chief of the armed forces.
He has not simply experience as a soldier, he has the leadership training which the military provides to its officers. This is not trivial. I’m a Hillary supporter, but I do understand the value of training and this man has it in spades.
This is what Obama’s supporters do not get: being the President is a real job, not an avatar in a game playing for levels and gold. It is not a lecturer position describing legal precedent to enraptured 22 year olds. It is a very hard job where wisdom, experience, and discipline count.
Whatever else you may not like, this man is well-trained. That IS the difference between George Bush Senior and his son: one is a military pilot and veteran. The other is a ‘couldn’t be bothered to show up for the job because of election season’ lightweight.
Sound familiar?

Jay Rockerfeller is a politicl oprotunist who came to WV to buy himself the Governorship of the state! When he came to WV he was a staunch opponet of Strip Mining of coal and said that he would it would fight it till it was abolished! Well then he decided to run for governor and he quickly found out who has the real power in WV, the Coal Operators,well it wasn’t long after he announced that he was running for governor that he said that further study was needed to assess the impact of strip mining! Then he got the backing of the coal operators and he went on to get elected! The result is that strip mining was never outlawed and acutually expanded under his administration! So Jay Rockerfeller can not be trusted because in the end he will do what is necessary to stay in office and in WV that is making sure you protect the coal operators! So I have to laugh when I hear him talk about how important the enviroment is and how we are protectors of the earth!

I just read the apology and he is still a jerk for making those statements.
And sorry Obama supporters, but you set the stage for lambasting surrogates who say dumb stuff so Jay Rockefeller is not going to be absolved from this gaffe.

It is too late for Jay Rockerfeller to apologize! He knew exactly what he was saying and why he said it! This is the start of a smear campaign agaist McCain in an attempt to swift boat him and he should be dropped from the campaign! Mr. Obama there is no place in politics for such comments agaist a true american hero! An appology is not enough, we won’t be satisfied till Mr. Obama denounces it and fires Rockerfeller from the campaign!

Missiles are fired, bombs are dropped. Laserguided didn’t appear until the 1980s. I’ve yet to meet a fighter pilot who is “insensitive to many human issues”. Almost all of the fighter pilots I know (Austrian, German, British, Dutch, American, Japanese) are married, have children and are loving fathers and husbands who are doing their duty as fighter pilots and members of the military of their country. In case there’d be a situation where the metal meets the meat I’d trust one of them over 500 Rockefellers.
My best friend’s grandfather flew on B-17s over Germany and Austria. My own grandfather shot at incoming B-17s since he was part of the Luftwaffe. Today those two would have a drink and talk about old times. They would shake hands, have a good time and would remember their fallen comrades together.
I would assume Rockefeller has never worn uniform, otherwise he’d never spew such garbage.
As for the Swifties, they brought up some interesting questions, didn’t they? Agreed, those questions were inconvenient for Kerry’s pitiful campaign. But well, America is a free country, with freedom of speech (which goes for both sides of the political fence, keep that in mind Lefties (and no, Lefties are NOT Liberals)), thus such questions are valid. I mean… Kerry claimed to have been in Cambodia for crying out loud. Obviously he had watched too much Apocalypse Now.

I hope hillary does not get into this either.
but I’ll bet obama hopes she does
because if she does it will put the focus on her and not on obama (where it needs to stay)
and he will avoid taking a stance
and start to attack anything she has said.
stay out of it Hillary!

Mark: Too little too late! Rockerfeller has to go!

Rockefeller actually said that? Most despicable! I would not believe anyone would be so crass and low.
Rockefeller is the heir to huge fortune earned on the backs of millions of Americans that worked, fought and died for our country while Standard oil monopolized, price fixed, gouged and unscrupulously fought competitors. John D. was the world’s richest man at one time as a result of a Supreme Court ruling that dissolved the parent company and left him with substantial stock in what amounted to every oil company in the nation. The term “Restraint of Trade” is a legacy of Standard Oil and the Rockefeller family.
Where is the humanity in that?

I think anyone has not ever served in the Armed Services really should just be quiet in critism of anyone who has. It makes the person look like a dweeb and a coward.

Once and for all: What lies did the Swiftboaters spread about Senator Kerry?
Senator Kerry has not provided evidence of any lies.

Target Practice

Senator Jay Rockefeller presents himself as the decoy. In the Charleston Gazette Sunday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV, who has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said that Sen. John McCain “has a temper” and, according to the story, “believes McCain has

bho’s “dignified stance” is all smoke and mirrors–much like his entire campaign–his surrogates and supporters do enough damage themselves to the other candidates to make bho appear to be mr. clean.
neither of the other two campaigns are as hateful and vile as the bho supporters. in the long run, this will be bho demise.

PP, I have wondered where she is. I think most of us know she is radioactive and can explode at anytime.

Obama says he is running a different type of campaign (“wink-wink”) and not going to be negative and then he turns around and says negative things or his supporters do it for him.
There is nothing differing him from any other politician except the facade which I hope will keep crumbling.

beb: McCain was not in a country club POW camp, and he turned down a chance for release.
There has been some truly repugnant press on John McCain this week and I appreciate that Political Punch did not repeat it – it was a story that was too crass for even the National Inquirer. And the sleazy, unbelievable attacks on McCain’s patriotism when he was running against Bush were unforgivable. I think it speaks highly of McCain that he’s able to move on and even say he forgives them.
But I disagree with your characterization of Rockafeller’s remarks. When John McCain sang “Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran,” I wondered what he possibly could have been thinking. I saw body parts – children’s body parts ripped apart by American bombs. I didn’t think it was funny. If any other candidate had had sung that song – wouldn’t the press and politicians question their judgement? This one John McCain brought on himself. I know I’m going to be accused of being a pinko pig, but I call it the way I see it. If you are a presidential candidate and you make jokes about bombing another country, as if there are no casualties and no deaths, and it’s a big joke, you deserve to be called out.
And Steve M? I don’t believe the Bush girls have done alot of service in Iraq. Or the Bush boys, either. Looks like the tradition died with George H.

McCain is a very, VERY angry man. Bitter, twisted, hateful. Did you hear what he called his wife when she teased him about his hair?

Four years ago the Democrats insisted that it was vital that the President have a record of military service. They drooled all over John “Reporting for Duty” Kerry. Now that they have two candidates with zero military service, a military record is not important and they’ll bash the man who served with honor. Sickening.