By MichaelJames

Apr 11, 2008 9:34pm

Obama Defends His Comments About Pa. Voters

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama defended his comments on Pennsylvania voters at his Terra Haute, Ind., town hall this evening, saying that he believes they understandably are bitter and frustrated.

What did leave out? A repetition of points he made at a San Francisco fundraiser last weekend suggesting that those voters are clinging to guns or religion as a result.

Launching out of a regular stump speech line about Bush-Cheney not looking out for Americans, he said, “See, that’s what people understand about politics these days. The game is fixed. It’s not working for ordinary Americans. So when I, when I go around and I talk to people, there is frustration and there is anger and there is bitterness.

“I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser. And somebody asked me, ‘Well, how are you gonna get votes in Pennsylvania? What’s going on there? We hear that it’s hard for some working class people to get behind your campaign. Why is that?’

"I said, ‘Well look, they’re frustrated — and for good reason, because for the last 25 years, they’ve seen jobs shipped overseas, they’ve seen their economies collapse, they have lost their jobs, they’ve lost their pensions, they’ve lost their health care. And for 25, 30 years, Democrats and Republicans have come before them and said we’re going to make your community better. We’re gonna make it right. And nothing ever happens. And of course they’re bitter. Of course they’re frustrated. You would be too. In fact many of you are. Because the same thing has happened here in Indiana, same thing happened across the border in Decatur, the same thing has happened across the country. Nobody’s looking out for you. Nobody is thinking about you.”

Obama then addressed the criticism that he’s received from Sens. McCain and Clinton over his comments –- calling their responses “rich.”

“Sen. Clinton says, ‘Well I don’t think people are bitter in Pennsylvania. I think Barack’s being condescending.’ John McCain says, ‘Oh, how could he say that? How could he say people are bitter. He’s obviously out of touch with people.’ Out of touch? Out of touch?

"I mean, John McCain, it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it. And he’s saying I’m out of touch? Sen. Clinton voted for a credit card-sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I’m out of touch?

"No I’m in touch. I know exactly what’s going on. I know what’s going on in Pennsylvania, I know what’s going on in Indiana, I know what’s going on in Illinois. People are fed up. They’re angry, and they’re frustrated, and they’re bitter, and they want to see a change in Washington, and that’s why I’m running for president of the United States of America.”

User Comments

What he said in California last week was stupid.
But — damn — THAT speech was really, truly first rate. Really good! If he can turn this debacle around to his advantage the way that clip suggest he might just be able to do … well, I will be much more than amazed.
Incredible stuff. Just unbelievable.

Posted by: Callimaco | April 11, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OBAMA
BELIEVE, BUT HE IS IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE,
AND SEN. CLINTON AND SEN. IS NOT. POOR
PEOPLE AND MIDDLE CLASS, ARE VERY BITTER. NO JOBS, GAS PRICES BEING PUT OUT OF THIER HOMES. HELLO!!

Posted by: isah | April 11, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

“First of all, lets all just take a pill and chill out until we find out what context this was said in, if it was really said at all. And if it was, I am from Pennsylvania, and I agree with him.
I know a heck of a lot of people who are bitter about a lot of things from lack of jobs, low salaries, poor or no health care. Yes, some of us are bitter thanks to George W. Bush. And I know some people who have turned bitter enough to have done things they later regretted in frustration. Truck drivers in PA are thinking about throwing in the towel and leaving their trucks sitting right where they are. I don’t know about you but that sounds a bit on the bitter side to me.
So if you aren’t from Pennsylvania, just shut up because you have no right to speak for us. And if you are from Pennsylvania and you don’t agree with Senator Obama, then you must be a doctor or lawyer pulling in $100,000 a year or more. “

Posted by: PA resident | April 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Politics is a horrible way to have to live. I give all these politicians lots of kudos for putting their stuff out there. Obama’s words weren’t the best choice of words, but this is not a major issue. I have greater things I am concerned about. Read the cover of Time this week about Obama’s mother. Now that is something folks.

Posted by: michaelinphilly | April 11, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

from swimming freestyle:
Barack Obama is a remarkably eloquent man and turning into a remarkably capable politician. But if the Senator believes it’s smart to insult voters from a state critical to your success, he’s hit one of the worst false notes yet in his campaign.
Yeah, I know what his campaign said, and that may have been what he meant. But a sophisticated candidate doesn’t refer to voters in language that can be construed as derogatory or insulting. Obama asserted Pennsylvania voters are bitter and so simple and lacking in maturity and intelligence that they address their frustration by clinging to primitive and reactionary crutches rather than addressing their problems in constructive ways.
It’s divisive. And not the way to attract the voters you need most.

Posted by: Jay McDonough | April 11, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

He is right on and he knows what we are going through ,he can relate to us the other two are so far above us they have no clue…..He listens and understands what people are saying.
Great and Thank you……………..

Posted by: honest | April 11, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

I’m so glad he said it. Go Obama!

Posted by: Kim | April 11, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I live in the midwest. We all talk about the same things that Obama said last week. Many people acknowledge that the bitterness and looking to religion and worrying about their guns, ect., is a substitute for the helplessness in our lives as jobs leave.
A few years ago 3 of the major factories left for Mexico and China out of 4. Mental Health facilities were packed because of the depression from the fall out.
A year later the 4th left for Mexico.
There is nothing to replace them except for minimum wage retail.
We are not stupid. We know what is happening and why. And we know full well that people look for comfort and distractions to deal.
The only thing I don’t understand is why people would turn to the Clintons, who are responsible for the jobs leaving in the first place along with the republicans.
So, yeah, Obama is right and on target to begin with.
To trash him for saying what we all say ourselves is ridiculous.

Posted by: vwcat | April 11, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

I read this posts from his supporters saying things like “oooo, Obama is right”, and “ooo, he is so in touch with the people”, and I want to gag! This Obama has lied repeatedly, and now he has made more condescending comments to the good people of Penn. And you want to accept this? And he is trying to squirm out of this the way he usually does, by saying “oh, that’s not what I meant”, and then trying to change the subject. How can you be so gullible to fall for this mans koolaid, how??????

Posted by: Justice | April 11, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

It’s one thing to simply react to a problem or to an emotion or to frustration, but it’s quite another to understand it’s roots!
Barack understands the underlying causes of anger, frustration, and resentment. And only someone who understands can bring about a lasting change!

Posted by: Danny | April 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

So like I said we realy didn’t hear or know what he said he put down working class people and guess what they know just what he saying.

Posted by: Bishop | April 11, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

I live in Pennsylvania and think that Obama’s intended message is accurate – Pennsylvanians are frustrated about loss of jobs, the economy,etc. HOWEVER, as a politician, he should know to use different words to make his point. Pennsylvanians are frustrated, and rightfully so, but not bitter. I think his choice of the word “bitter” is insulting to hard working blue collar Pennsylvanians. I find it to be indeed an elitist choice of words.

Posted by: pa voter | April 11, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

The puppet candidate strikes again! Will the real Obama please stand up? Oh, that was the real Obama at the chardonnay tasting in California last week..better do a speech to fix the real Obama that came out. That was the real Obama sitting in the pews listening to his dear friend Rev. Wright, no problem, Obama will make a grand wonderful speech on race and America will forget that Obama is a bitter radical left wing small town hater.

Posted by: rs | April 11, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

I want to see how he makes this all about Hillary .Lets see if it stays in the news night and day like they do to Hillary .

Posted by: Bishop | April 11, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Bishop, guess what. this is not about Hillary.
Believe it or not, not everything is about Hillary.

Posted by: vwcat | April 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

People who think Obama is not rich ( you all are mistaken)
He made cloe to $1M last year and will easily make $3M this year with 2 books selling great.
Also he lives in a $1M plus mansion. Thanks to Rezko
His pastor too got a $1.6M mansion for retirement. I think he is the one who preached hatred and said US does not take care of poor … He is so poort. YOU RIGHT.
Obama will end up to be one of the richest politician in history when he reaches Hillary’s age.
So do not be jealous about Hillary.

Posted by: GS | April 11, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Again, this is not about Hillary.
Yes, the Obama’s made money from his books.
But, so did others who wrote books.

Posted by: vwcat | April 11, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Nature abhors a vacuum! That’s the one thing Hillary just doesn’t understand. There can only be 1 Clinton (that was Bill). Bill is a brilliant man, but I’m sorry to say that Hillary is just not Bill!

Posted by: Danny | April 11, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Hillary has completely lost it! McCain is a confused man! What I find astonishing and reflective of out of touch mode with the American people is their attack on Obama for being bold and courageous enough to acknowledge the obvious. Hillary must be too in touch with the people with her $109 million income. McCain must be in touch with Americans who are losing their homes and dreams to foreclosures when he offers a hands-off solution to what is obviously the biggest economic and moral crisis of this decade. Americans are more embittered by the political silliness that politicizes the true state of their affairs. I am bitter and if there is any American who is not bitter, he/she must be part of the reason for my bitterness. GO OBAMA!

Posted by: Vitus | April 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

From PA (born and raised) now living in IN….
Barack hit this one out of the park!
And I don’t believe the people of PA (we’re not that complicated) are offended by TRUTH!
The true elitist are the ones that jumped on the remark to put it through the negative spin cycle.
I’m extremely fortunate in my situation, and I thank God every day, however, I have family and friends NOT so fortunate, and YES, they’re bitter and frustrated. Enjoying life has become a struggle. BUT….you can’t take away their religion and you can’t take away their guns!
If the good folks in Pennsylvania won’t bring this home, we in Indiana will!!

Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 11, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I live in PA and am insulted by this idiot. Who does he think he is? I wouldn’t vote for him if he was the only one running. I’m a lifelong Democrat and if he steals the nomination, I’m voting for McCain. I couldn’t in good conscience vote for this man.

Posted by: Jacko | April 11, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Good for you Jacko.
I feel the same way about ms inevitable. I’m not quite sure I could vote McCain, that would be tough…but I sure know how to stay home.
Elite hill and free trade bill don’t need my vote. And McWar definitely doesn’t need my vote.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 11, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

A true Democrat could never in good conscience vote for a man who would continue to destroy the country! Please reconsider your stance and think of what it would mean to your family and children?

Posted by: Danny | April 11, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

I PRAY FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN. Obama is riht people are frustrated. Bill did add to the problem. Jobs gone to other countries. Home is where the heart is. I remember that I was working at a sewing industry for 10 years and we got laid off, because of the jobs going to other countries. The plant sent all of it work to Csoreka or Puerto Rico and close down. They were many out of a job, but the owner caed enough to pay for our education so we could train for other jobs. They were many elderly people who was close to drawinf social security and some with no high school diplomas. It was hard for many. Obama has really gained my respect for caring enough to evaluate and tell the truth. Hillary is always negative against Obama. He is really doing a great job. How Can hilary even think of such when she can not manage her own campaign money. Is this the lady we want to be president? Think about it. Obama is a very intelligent man. Mccain cannot really say much he is still trying to convince everyone. Hillary is so out spoken and rude. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF. GO OBAMA

Posted by: Wanda | April 11, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

The only silver lining is that this happened on a weekend.. maybe less people will see? Nevermind, 24/7 news. Crap, this is bad democrats. Let this be a lesson to you. NEVER EVER TRUST A MEDIA INDUCED BANDWAGON. Pay attention to who you are voting for!

Posted by: A reader in Georgia | April 11, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Danny
I would vote for McCain because he’s honorable and a good man. My first choice is Hillary, but if I have to choose McCain, I can live with it, so can my small town family.

Posted by: Jacko | April 11, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Obama is the real deal.
Hillary is trying to spin his words out of context,in order to get all her bad news swept under the rug.
I am also bitter.Things are really bad now for most people in America.Small town america has been hit hard.
What is wrong with the truth?

Posted by: Ndali | April 11, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

I notice no one has focused on what Bill Clinton has said about Hillary’s age and her mis-speaking? about Bosnia and sniper fire. How in the hell does anyone forget they were shot at? Shot at while with your only beloved child beside you?? She had a senior moment and no one is ready to admit it.
Senator Obama speaks the truth with insight and intelligence. When we are down and sad we tend to turn to our faith and religion to lift our spirits. We are taught that The Lord will carry us when we are unable to go on alone. For those who grew up in church the powerful prayer “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me”.We retreat into our faith to distract us from lifes trials and hardships that we sometimes face. More now than ever we need to understand what he is telling us.He said he would not be surprised that some people are “bitter”. he did not call anyone bitter. We have in this country become anti-immigrant and anti-trade. but the anti-trade part is justified. With all the jobs being shipped out of the US people are afraid and worried about the future. Stop trying to bring this brilliant man down. Barack Obama a special gift that I believe the Lord sent to us to wake us up!!! WAKE UP!!

Posted by: ramonia houston | April 11, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Not for me. I am a south central Pennsylvanian and feel no anger toward Obama, I agree with him. I am bitter at Bush’s lies and the federal government as a whole. In fact, I am more angry at the national media’s handling of this. Am I bitter? Your damn right, and that is why I made up my mind to vote for Obama.
Mark, Shippensburg, PA

Posted by: Mark in PA | April 11, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Mr Obama knows nothing about Pennsylvanians.
They Are very Proud Americans.
They Love and support their Country.
They Never Condemn it or God Damn it.
They Automatically stand up and put their hand on their hearts when they say the Pledge of allegiance or Hear the National Anthem.
They Support the Service men and woman, from wearing lapep pins to yellow ribbons on the porch post. They are our Sons & Daughters, Mothers and Dads, sister and Brothers, who Deserve and have earned our support. They are not a troop, They are Americans doing their duty, Serving their country Proudly.
We are not Frustrated
We are ###### that Senators like you do not do their job. Show up and vote present and take the pay check for nothing.
We are ###### because Senators Like you
Squander the money we give to the government on stupid programs and not the ones we need.
We are ####### because some one wants to take another right away. Yes we are hunters and we want our constitutional right to stay intact.
We are ###### when you Side with the minority over the majority.
We are ###### when you Senators and congressman get up on your high horses and look down upon us, When you in fact are suppose to be working for us, not against us.
We are ###### every time we have to press #1 for English. Read our lips, make the national language English for all. That is what the majority of people want. How hard can that be to do it.
We only get Frustrated when we can not get you Politicians out of office as easy as you were put into it.

Posted by: seah | April 11, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Jacko:
It’s a shame that you would think that way.
Think of the men & women who have already given their lives for a dishonorable war? Think about McCain wanting to continue to destroy the lives of those families and others who have yet to pay the ultimate price! Think of the money being spent on the war and how it could better be used to change the lives of thousands (if not millions) of Pennsylvanians and all Americans? Whomever the democratic candidate is, is who I will vote for! Please reconsider your decision.

Posted by: Danny | April 11, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

I live in small town Ohio. Yes what Obama says is stating the truth however, I don’t own a gun or go to church because I’m frustrated with the way things are in my town or country. I go to church because of my faith and my own morals and values. I don’t cling to those things!!! He insulted small town America plain and simple!! This man has very poor judgement to lump small town frustration with owning a gun or going to church! Big case of open mouth insert foot!! I could never ever vote for Obama. If Hillary is not the nominee I will vote for McCain. At least he is patriotic, honorable and doesn’t insult us small town folks. Hillary in 2008!

Posted by: Paula | April 11, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

I live in small town Ohio. Yes what Obama says is stating the truth however, I don’t own a gun or go to church because I’m frustrated with the way things are in my town or country. I go to church because of my faith and my own morals and values. I don’t cling to those things!!! He insulted small town America plain and simple!! This man has very poor judgement to lump small town frustration with owning a gun or going to church! Big case of open mouth insert foot!! I could never ever vote for Obama. If Hillary is not the nominee I will vote for McCain. At least he is patriotic, honorable and doesn’t insult us small town folks. Hillary in 2008!

Posted by: Paula | April 11, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Senator Obama, thanks for laying it out there like it really is. You speak nothing but the truth, and maybe those better off in this country like the $109 million Clintons and others like them, will get the message you so eloquently have brought to the forefront- our small town concerns and bitterness over gross neglect for decades by Washington, including our national leader’s irresponsible policies like NAFTA that have cost us jobs and decimated our communities. We are indeed very bitter, and we want change in Washington.

Posted by: rco | April 11, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I grew up in Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. I am a very proud Pennsylvanian,But after graduating from college there in Pittsburgh I could not find a good job. It was both sad and scary. And that was
in 1982. The steel mills were closed and all of our young boys were joining the army. That was the only way to see a bright future. I love Pittsburgh But I decided to move to Texas where the job were back then. That was best decision I ever made. It broke my Mom’s heart that I moved so far away ,But I had no choice. I was also “bitter” back then. Where did the ever present steel mills go? To all those who live in Pennsylavania, be honest and admit Senator Obama was/is right. Past politicians came in and promised the mills are coming back. They never returned. But the politicians still come and still promise. You have the nerve to be mad a Barack But not The Clintons??? While she promises to fight against the Colunbia Free trade agreement He (Bill) is making speeches and money promoting the same trade agreement!! Where is your outrage?? Your hate for Senator Obama is more that this speech, I am from pennsylvania and I am sad to say there is truth to what Rendell said about some people in Pennsylvania. I would respect your distaste for Senator Obama if it were truly on issues But I am afraid it is more.

Posted by: FAYTH | April 11, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

The narrative of Senator Obama as being out of touch with the working class is out of touch with reality. Unlike Senators Clinton and McCain, who were raised in single family homes and solidly middle class, Senator Obama was raised in an apartment and a time on welfare. Unlike Senators Clinton and McCain, he paid his OWN way through college. No one gave him anything!
Most of the MSM is becoming more and more like Fox News everyday. Rather than playing or posting his complete quote where he talks in length about the plight of the poor and working class and their understandable bitterness, yes bitterness, they play a clip out of context. He was clearly defending the deserved bitterness of small town Americans who have been shafted by the government time-and-time again. Yes, he as not at his most eloquent, but to accuse him of putting down small town Americans is a complete distortion!

Posted by: DTD | April 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Danny
My good friend is in the service and is leaving for Iraq soon, I worry for him. He says not to worry that he chose to serve his country. He is an honorable man and he is as livid over this as I am. Neither or us or any member of our families will ever vote for Obama in the general election. This is personal to us.

Posted by: Jacko | April 11, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

DTD you are horribly mislead. Obama was raised in Hawaii by an elite family (his mother and grandparents mostly but both his fathers were wealthy as well). He also attended private schools all his life. He is a silver spoon baby.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 11, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Wow, he’s actually more condescending than Kerry. Come to the center DNC….come to the center.

Posted by: Mack | April 11, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

No, he didn’t leave out guns and religion.
He was talking about people voting based only on gun rights and abortion rights, because they don’t see ANY party as able to help them economically any more.
It’s what he said in CA, and he said it again now. Open your ears. Here’s the full quote:
OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it’s fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people feel most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre…I think they’re misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to ‘white working-class don’t wanna work — don’t wanna vote for the black guy.’ That’s…there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today – kind of implies that it’s sort of a race thing.
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter).
But — so the questions you’re most likely to get about me, ‘Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What’s the concrete thing?’ What they wanna hear is — so, we’ll give you talking points about what we’re proposing — close tax loopholes, roll back, you know, the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama’s gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we’re gonna provide health care for every American. So we’ll go down a series of talking points.
But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background — there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.

Posted by: memoryaid | April 11, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

I’m completely and utterly shocked. For the first time, he said something I think just might be true. I’m one of those poor white Americans and I AM bitter. I have been forgotten, my family has been forgotten and my friends have been forgotten. However, I’m just not sure that Obama actually gives a damn. Nothing else in his past and present indicate that he can even stand poor white Americans, let alone actually care about what happens to them. And I don’t really think that any politician cares. They just say what they think they need to say to get them votes, whether they be Democrats or Republicans. Personally, I think democracy has become a joke. I don’t know where we go from here, but I am honestly scared.

Posted by: Griffin | April 11, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

When referring to PA working class voters, Obama said: “So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them…”
Isn’t this Obama comment ironic? Wait, I can’t remember, was he talking about blue-collar voters or Rev. Wright?
The fact that he’s an elitist is an understatement.
I’m confident the voters in PA to whom he was referring will not be inspired or feel particularly “united” by his remarks.
Hillary is the ONLY viable candidate!

Posted by: Emily | April 11, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Is it a crime to say the truth? He said what he said becuase he (Obama) is truly crying inwardly and worrying about those people in PA who have suffered and are still suffering as he stated and for the right reason. His statement is a statement out of pure love not at all what Hillary is talking about! Hillary needs help! In fact, the people of Pennsylvania understand that this man Obama truly cares for thm and for all people. they will vote for Obama toward victory in PA. When God gets into office someone HE trusts, then God will be God in-deed. God will bless PA and America with Obama as President.

Posted by: Strongblood1 | April 11, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Maybe everyone wouldn’t be so bitter if they had friends like Rezko to help them get sweet real estate deals.

Posted by: Mack | April 11, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Obama may as well have said PA working class voters are all a bunch of hillbillies. His arrogance is increasing exponentially.
GO HILLARY!

Posted by: Emily | April 11, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Pa Resident: Thanks for the bit of sanity. Here’s a pretty important part of the Obama speech that was left out. It pretty much says it all.
“…They take refuge in their faith and their communities and their families and the things they can count on.”
There are alot of places where you can find the whole speech. It’s sane and true. Why this particular journalist took these sections and deleted others – and then said that he didn’t talk about religion is a mystery (and I’m being charitable here).

Posted by: Mara | April 11, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN PENNSYLVANIA WHO ARE “BITTER” AND “FED UP” WITH THE SYSTEM AND AGREE WITH SENATOR OBAMA LET’S FORM A GROUP AND WALK TOGETHER CHANTING…”WE ARE BITTER AND WE WON’T TAKE IT ANYMORE..WE WANT CHANGE!”

Posted by: KIMBERLY | April 11, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

don’t we have one of those guys in the white house now that can never say i was wrong! i am reminded of the old saying in politics ‘you can fool some of the people some of time but not all of the people all the time’

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 11, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Is the SIMPLE LOGIC of a Harvard lawyer and University professor too much for the average American?
Many Americans without jobs, or without secure jobs, or with lower and lower-paying jobs, or are losing their jobs to outsourcing WILL BE ‘bitter’.
Some of these Americans DO actually take out their frustration on their own families. We can read it in the news all the time.
So under-employed Americans taking out their frustration on hot button issues such as immigration and the like IS par for the course of their frustration, anxiety and ‘bitterness’.
Well, it’s time to vote in Obama in order to improve our educational standards.
In this way Americans will not constantly be used as a political football by the likes of Clintons and Cains and Bush!

Posted by: New Yorker | April 11, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

You must have forgot to include in your report the part about the crowd’s spontaneous standing ovation…

Posted by: latensoon | April 11, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Actually Emily… Obama is the one who sounds bitter. Product of black theology? Product of elitism? Product of self-hatred? Product of jealousy? perhaps all of the afforementioned apply in his case. The dangerous aspect is how he easily offends others with his language. When he offends an enemy there wont be time for him to clarify with a subsequent speech… the attacks on us by the offended enemy could drown out his voice as well as our own. The Office of the POTUS is not the place for a candidate to work on their own personal demons at the risk of human life… have we not learned this in the last 7 years?

Posted by: DCVoter | April 11, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

Yes Obama, we are all the same, just typical white people. We are your empty vessels, please fill us up with your change.

Posted by: Mack | April 12, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

latensoon; perhaps that is because the folks attending (were his supporters) and had not yet heard the speech since they were in line when the story hit the news. i also hear that people faint at the altar, and clap when he sneezes.

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 12, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

DCVoter: Absolutely! I read the entire speech on Huffington. It’s clear Obama meant what he said about working class PA voters. If he’s such a fabulous speaker, as his supporters contend, then why does he continue to blunder with his words? Why would there be any room for ambiguity? Perhaps, he believes the militant theology that African Americans are superior. Perhaps, he just believes that he’s superior. Either way, he’s not the brand of unity America desperately needs and richly deserves. Hillary is!

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

poor judgement, poor judgement!

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 12, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Yes, Jeff. Obama is only in touch with personal gain, anything and everything else is just a means to an end. You’re one of the means to Obama. That’s all.

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Here’s the problem no matter what Obama says the damage is done. After the whole Wright incident, the “ordinary white people” comment, his label as a liberal, the view that both he and his wife are unpatriotic; this “bitter” comment just reinforces the criticism of Obama. The problem is what can Obama do about it? If he makes another grand speech, it looks like thats all he does, and that he’s doing damage control a lot. The fact that he said this to a group of liberals doesn’t make anything better. Are we to assume that Obama after 2-3 weeks is now the ambassador for rural-small town-working class America? No matter the context just that notion is elitist and arrogance. Prove me wrong!

Posted by: Gonzalo | April 12, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Obama should bow out gracefuly now.

Posted by: Sharon | April 12, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Emily, It’s sort of like a bad dream and I just hope that everyone wakes up in time.

Posted by: Mack | April 12, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

great post annie.
obama reminds me of a magician i saw as a little girl. he put a bunny in a hat and then pulled out a quarter. i was 7 y.o and i was not fooled i stood up and screamed where is the bunny, where is the bunny, what did you do with the bunny.

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 12, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

The blogger from huffingtonpost who recorded this had the audacity to insult our intelligence by saying “i sit on this a week my conscience got the best of me ,i had to report.Sure,she held it for the weekend news cycle….and dont forget the opportunity for her to become known to be a snake in the grass.

Posted by: jan | April 12, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Within the space of 5 hours, Senator Obama turned lemons into lemonade. His speech tonight was briliant, and yes, he did get a standing ovation! Neither hill, bill, or mcsame could have accomplished what Senator Obama did this evening. Having been a leader in the organizational structure, I recognize a leader when I see one! Senator Obama is definitely the leader this country has ben waiting for for the last several decades.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

What did Political Radar leave out? The heart of Obama’s speech. Here is part of it:
:…They take refuge in their faith and their communities and their families and the things they can count on.”
I don’t know where you all come from, but this is how my people live, whether they are executives or farmers or unemployed right now. Obama gets it.
PA Resident, I’m not from where you are, but you said exactly what an awful lot of Americans feel.
We are tired of “New Morning for America” speeches, like Senator Clinton gave today. We’ve been hearing them for a long time. They win elections but they don’t put food on the table. Enough with the Reagan speeches, Hillary. If I wanted to vote for a Republican, I’d vote for John McCain.

Posted by: Mara | April 12, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

DCVoter: Another excellent post! And, I hear what you’re saying about our posts mysteriously disappearing.
The only donations the Obama’s made went to Rev. Wright’s church (TUCC) in the amount of $27,000 since 2005.

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Mara – putting that line in my notebook -”New Morning for America” speeches – that is very descriptive of the speeches we hear from politicians, but not from Senator Obama; he is the true article. There is also a video on another site now Barrack does Bloomington -people cheering in the streets and shaking Senator Obama’s hand in Indiana. Inspiring!

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

That Obama, he sure is a lemon. Most Americans know a lemon when they see one (or hear his vacuous speeches). Isn’t there a lemonade flavored Kool Aid?

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

their is a big difference between being a great leader and being a great manipulator. nobody disputes his oratory skills-just like i cannot dispute the hunting skills of a cobra-you see we all perfect the skill we need to survive-in obamas case it is the gift of gab.

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 12, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Let’s not forget the little-known staging Michelle made at a recent event. She had people reseated so that more whites were shown by the TV cameras.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

Obama should drop out of the race

Posted by: Sharon | April 12, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

OH and I misspoke… it was not 89 of 400 black alumni refused to participate… it was only 89 of 400 agreed to participate which made her sample tainted. It is appalling that Princeton accepted her thesis conclusion using a biased sample.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

DCVoter: I also read Michele’s thesis. You know my discipline, so you can imagine what I thought about that racist tripe, and the unbelievable grammatical and syntactical errors!

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am

I agree Emily – it makes me question the quality/integrity of any doctorate conferred by Princeton.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Hi, DcVoter. For a thesis, 89 out of 400 is a remarkable number. Most profs are too busy to particpate in thesis and dissertation work. I know I am – I do a great deal of traveling besides teaching – giving workshops, seminars, speaking – all which take prep time besides getting lectures ready for the courses I teach. And, sending out questionnaires? A student can expect to get about 10%-12% of the originals back.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Sonia: Michele didn’t receive a Ph.D from Princeton. It was her Baccalaureate. Nevertheless, her work was appalling for the undergraduate level!

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

As a member of an international family, I concur that racism exists in society. However, I do not agree that separationism is the only way to be aware and have open dialogue to combat its negative effects.
Racial separatism is an activity tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center and is shown on its website so that we may all be aware of the location and activities of hate groups. Several hate groups have openly endorsed Obama and he did not reject them until public pressure and pressure from Clinton forced him to do so.
The role of government in combatting racism is to enforce its equal protection clauses of the constitution and effective policies to ensure equal opportunity and prosecution of hate crimes.
Statistically, there is no disparity of pay between black and white Americans because of all the hard work by people like the Clintons, LBJ, and MLK. However, there is still a 30% pay gap between men and women in America and Senator Clinton continues to work hard to close that gap against what seems to be insurmountable odds. We have already seen documented evidence of the accepted and ingrained sexism in our society and this nomination race. Strangely enough, the only demographic with a pattern of Identity voting in this election is the black voting bloc. This is truly a sad setback in progress directly attributed to the Obama campaign.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

A student has the right to keep any school work from being released for whatever reason. I released my doctorate dissertation but not my master’s thesis or my undergrad work. I have served on master thesis and dissertation committees. Many students request that their work not be released.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Emily – yes I posted a correction.
sandy – it was not a survey of faculty or professors… it was s survey of alumni. 89 former students out of 400 sought is a very poor result and a tainted sample. What that means is she could not find 89 black former students to agree to participate in her survey.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

obama could have tried to clinton his way out of the situation but instead he took resposibility for his remarks and said yeah people are ###### off and bitter we are spending 3 billion a day in iraq while borrowing from china for the war and iraq is running a surplus–we are paying sunnis not to fight in iraq and people in our own country cant get disability or unemployement or welfare or healthcare and john mccain says obama is elitist–thats funny obama had a single parent who remarried took him to indonesia then back to hawaii to live with his grandparents then working his way through colleg then working in a law firm for civil rights–he could have gone to wall street but he chose public service–obama’s campagn has never brought up the bosnia lie never but her campagn keeps bringing up rev wright saying this reverand is black he is really black tell everyone that way the whites in pa wont vote for him—that is what is going on

Posted by: bill | April 12, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

No, sandy. Most profs, like me, are NOT too busy to assist our students with both the form and substance of their undergraduate senior thesis. Furthermore, if you actually were a professor, you’d know that a Ph.D. candidate (which Michele was not) also has a good deal of help from his/her committee.

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

DcVoter – alumni are scattered all over the world – they move, don’t have the time, or just do not want to do a questionnaire for whatever reason and the questionnaire gets thrown in the wastebasket. For my doctorate dissertaion, I sent out 1000 questionnaire – I had 101 returned.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

mara your theories are interesting can you please cite sources-legitimate ones.

Posted by: sonia trevino | April 12, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Mara – I am surprised hillary’s paper was accepted – graduate work has to involve qualitative and quantitative studies. I know some students who have worked on a dissertation for five years.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

You might try reading Obama’s own admission regarding his financial upbringing as well as legitimate news sources documenting the fact that he has always been part of the elite socioeconomic class. He even stated he joined TUCC to help him “find his black identity”. Even as a state senator, he chose to live elite while his constituents froze in the housing of his buddy Rezko. It is no surprise Rezko sold him a house at a loss… quite a nice payback for Obama.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

emily – I have served on grad committees – I do understand the time and work involved – and I have served as chair. Good for you if you are willing to help students – no greater work then helping students accomplish their goals.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

You rock, DCVoter!

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

DcVoter – I not only used questionnaires but case studies, personal interviews, telephone interviews, and emails (it seems to me by the time I was done), by the thousands. :) No dissertation depends on one form of data collection – multiples result in much better stats.

Posted by: sandy | April 12, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Ok, truce sandy. I’m feelin’ fairly awful beating up on a colleague. The truth is, I’m happy you’re an academician like me. I just can’t in good conscience vote for your candidate. I love Hillary. She’s my state senator, and she’s beloved here in New York.

Posted by: Emily | April 12, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

I am considering pursuing yet another degree very soon and have had great response from the school’s advisor. Having worked with academia for many years it is refreshing to communicate with conscientious individuals. Unfortunately, many of the bloggers online still need help with facts and logical reasoning. That is the reason I blog! We can enrich our lives through education both inside and outside academia when we debate issues in a mature manner.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

sandy – that is certainly true depending on the structure of the research. In Michelle’s case, after reading her paper, that was not relevant.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

MSM articles are not a valid source of data. Try going to the sources like open secrets that maintains a personal finances database for public perusal.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

I am PA voter and I am disgusted with Obama. His condescending attitude has come to the forefront once again proving he is totally out of touch not only with PA voters, but with many Americans. Maybe Obama should switch parties, if he feels he is part of the elite. It’s a rotten shame, the democratic party is split due to Obama’s lack of understanding what the backbone of our country really is; it’s not the elitists, its not the corporations; it’s the working class; and they don’t need some politician like Obama looking down his nose at them. We are all supposed to forgive and forget Obama’s questionable pals, his spiritual leader, etc.; This guy ego is definitely out there; and the working class should speak out against his arrogant remarks. There was a time when the democratic party stood up for the poor and disadvantaged; not be a party to rude and ignorant remarks.

Posted by: Elaine | April 12, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

Elaine – I’m disgusted too. Funny thing — the wealthy white suburban crowd he talks to send their kids to heavily segregated private and public schools and live in vitually allwhite neighborhoods, far from poor people. but then he gets up and calls poor people bitter and xeonophobic. LOL. In Connecticut, the town of West Hartford is in flames over proposals to bus black and latino poor kids to cash rich suburban and virtually allwhite schools. This is the same liberal crowd that voted for Obama in CT. LOL. What a joke

Posted by: tony | April 12, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

I was so impressed with Obama’s response to this. Talk about getting real.
I think those who have already made up their minds about Obama will get upset about this. For the rest of us, I think it’s clear that Obama just was being realistic (and open! – a plus for politicians.)

Posted by: Melissa | April 12, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

He’s right. I’m bitter, angry, disappointed with Washington on our poor economy, the war that is tearing down our men and women and the Bush and McCain team on not approving the new GI bill for them. They put their life on the line and they are dissed.
Hillary lies so much she evens believes her own lies. Bill takes 800,000 dollars to help Columbia’s NAFTA get passed as Hillary is against it. Clinton’s take US citizens for granted and wants us to believe she’s against it? Right. Conflict of interest all over it . They think the American voters are stupid?
McCain is a lost cause. He just wants war. No clue on fixing our economy or trying to get our brave men and women out of a war we shouldn’t have been in.
News media rather not spend time on what issues that need to be address. If a candidate passes wind its in the news.
And the number item is this NAFTA. The Clinton’s have gained so much off of this while millions of Americans lost manufacturing jobs. What amazes me how uneducated and uniformed Americans still support the Clinton’s after all the lies. I can’t believe Americans are that stupid and blind.
Yes I’m bitter

Posted by: JerryZ | April 12, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Elaine and tony – welcome to the campaign. Obama’s elitist attitude may be the product a variety of factors. It should be no surprise he identifies with and supports the elite considering he always went to private schools.
At his school in HI, where he was born and raised (except for the time in Indonesia),at the Punahou School, one of the state’s top private schools diversity was the norm. Almost all of its 3600 students are interracial and he was fortunate to have not experienced racism as a result. This was confirmed by several of his classmates after extensive interviews by legitimate sources like NBC. Local media coverage in Chicago paints a dimmer picture for Obama. Their in-depth interviews revealed accusations of falsehoods as a result, ie. they dispute his claim of being a confused angry young black boy driven to drugs as he embellishes in his book. Perhaps it is a case of misremembering but it is central to his image he portrays.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am

Obama should apologize to the people of Pennsylvania for his extremely offensive comments when he accused these voters of “clinging to guns or religion” because they are “bitter.”
Many of us want change but I doubt any of us wants a disdainful president.

Posted by: Ernie | April 12, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

Tony;
Highly educated people believe Bill & Hillary will not support Columbia? Must be hanging with people in Disney world like goofy.
The lies and scandals they do does not click on the light bulb? If not, then your the uneducated supporter they brag about. You don’t know any better.

Posted by: JerryZ | April 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

JerryZ;
Read up on some history about the Clinton’s; they have stood by the poor and disadvantaged in more ways than you can count. Why can’t for once, Obama be straight with the American people; instead of sidestepping to the Clinton’s every time HE faulters. His true charcter is finally rearing it’s head and the more people hear and see him; the more they distrust him.

Posted by: Elaine | April 12, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

The only bitter person I know is Obama’s wife Michelle.

Posted by: Rob | April 12, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

Always remember, democrats think they know you better than you know yourself. They also know what’s better for you than you do.
Patronizing at it’s finest.

Posted by: Rob | April 12, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Do you think he really care about working class people?
He has lots of big donation for his campaign and he outspending it.
He spent double than Hillary did in Pennsylvania for Ads.

Posted by: crisis08 | April 12, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Why he is the only candidate always brings up Race, Class.
Yesterday there was an article here talked about his campaign staffers put white people in the front row.
Later on he will give a defensive speech which everybody will praises him and forget whatever he said.
Nothing wrong to him at all.
He is GOD?

Posted by: crisis08 | April 12, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

Jerryz — just saying something over and over again does not make it factual….or persuasive.

Posted by: tony | April 12, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am

I agree Ernie but he had an immediate opportunity to do so and failed. Any apology efforts now are empty and lack sincerity since they will be perceived as damage control and rightfully so.
An interesting point to note is that no matter which candidate is elected President, the country will get “change”. Each of them differ from the current administration. The larger question we the voters must examine is what kind of change we want.
Our government is the most complex organization in the world with a seemingly infinite number of integrated processes. If we want change to fix the broken processes, we need to ensure the working processes are not broken by the changes. Simply stated… we must have measured process improvements or smart change.
The fact that corporate America is embracing democratic candidates this year is a strong sign they are willing to work with the democrats on effecting positive change. Do they care about the welfare of Americans and economic recovery? Sure they do! They cant make money if we have none to spend.
The only candidate that has a record of standing as a champion of the people while keeping corporate interests at bay is Senator Clinton. As President, she can get the job done at middle ground for all parties involved without breaking the government or bankrupting America. She proposes a return to fiscal responsibility and plans to pay for all her programs without increasing taxes and will decreases in taxes of the non-wealthy. Combine this with new jobs and economic stimulus and the buying power of Americans will increase.
Obama proposes to implement similar plans without buy-in from Congress and at a cost to the taxpayers using increased taxes per his proposals. Expert analysts examined his tax proposal and confirmed it would increase personal income tax, social security tax, and and capital gains taxes significantly. Obviously this is not fiscally responsible and would decrease the buying power of most Americans.
McCain intends to make the tax cuts for the wealthy permanent and leave it up to the free market to recover itself. This is Reagan and Bush all over again. The primary result of their policies is what we have today… an almost non-existent middle class and CEO’s with billion dollar annual incomes projected to reach into the trillions in the coming years on the backs of Americans.
Elitists in the Republican party and now apparently Obama continue to push this country into the two-class society our forefathers fought and died to escape. The smart choice for prosperity is Senator Clinton, in spite of the shananigans of her spouse. If you have been following the press, she once again told him to shutup when he made things worse in trying to defend her. With the removal of his buddy Penn as her chief strategist, it appears she has taken the reigns and once again found her voice as a champion of the people. She represent the smart change I believe this country needs.

Posted by: DCVoter | April 12, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

Obama doesnt give a rats about middle america. He thinks they are gun totin bible thumping FOOLS .
When the chipers are down, they goes out and gits thar shotguns, and clutch thar bibles . Good ol redneck crackers.
Who does Obama think he is? An aarogant condecending #### who doesnt really have a CLUE what america is really about?
All he knows is what his black libertarian GURU told him, and his harvard starbucks buddies think.
He knows nothing about other americans and to be quite frank, COULD CARE LESS.
He just wants their VOTE right now.

Posted by: tomdavie | April 12, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

To me this is unfair to obama. these days you can send people’ sons and daughtesr to their death for no reason, lies openly to them, support Nafta and have in you team one that is presently working against the interest of the american people but you can still get away with it because of you are. But when someone tell the truth he are accused of elitist. Who wouldn’t feel bitter when he is told that his job is given to a chinese or an illegal immigrant? Those who deny that feeling are the very elitist and far away from the daily life of regular americans.

Posted by: leche | April 12, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am

Obama is unelectable in the GE. Surely the superdelegates know this by now and will give Clinton their support.

Posted by: Niel | April 12, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

Obama is a limousine liberal elitist. He is the kind of Democrat from San Francisco that can never relate to blue collar folk.

Posted by: Lou | April 12, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am

While campaigning in Pennsylvania Sen. Barack Obama was talking about young girls and sex. He mentioned he had two young daughters and aged six and nine. He talked about the importance of instilling moral values in children, and he said they should also know how to protect themselves, because they should not be “punished with a baby!”
For all my life I have never heard such a thing– even in the worst circumstances of an unwanted pregnancy–that any other human being on this planet earth used the phrase;
” Punished with a baby…!”

Posted by: charleychaplin | April 12, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am

People are bitter and angry because of the Iraq war and the job lost to China and India but this time they are angry and bitter because the voters in Florida and Michigan are ignored by DNC and Obama doesn’t want their voices be heard even a revote.

Posted by: stock_craft | April 12, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

Obama should change himself and his Church, stop hating and bitter against Americans before talking about changing Washington. I think that is the CHANGE he CAN and SHOULD DO.

Posted by: stock_craft | April 12, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

Obama is a disgrace for a presidential candidate.
Why would any American support a guy that has so many negatives:
Are you guys crazy.
Pastor Wright
Rezko from Chicago
United Trinity Church of Christ
Attending this church with his kids
Belittling Pa
No experience
A wife that isn’t proud of her country
He will NEVER be able to stand up to McCain.
Unless this blog is all Republican please support Hillary before it’s too late.

Posted by: Alice from NJ | April 12, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am

I find it so hilarious that when you read these replies, the Obama lovers put down ……..’he was just telling the truth’ …….
The fact is, he is STEREOTYPING middle class blue collar voters. Blowing them off as ‘crackers’ and red/ neck bigots .
The people in the united states are concerned. They are worried. They are NOT ‘bitter’ on some grand scale. They do NOT reach out for their gun and bible as a way to deal with their frustration.
Only a far left wing radical thinks Obama was ‘telling da truth ‘ .
They are totally ignorant to anyone who has any other way of life other than their far left wing rhetoric of hating everyone and anything.

Posted by: tomdavie | April 12, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

Obama, Do you know people are bitter and angry because the voices of voters in Florida and Michigan are ignored by DNC Leaders and you are one of them who against the revote or counting the votes?

Posted by: stock_craft | April 12, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

Obama speaks like he is running for student body president. Maybe that is why the young well meaning, though inexperienced, college students love him so. But I am a tax-paying typical white southerner, who owns a gun, believes in God, and resents illegal aliens in the country…what do I know?

Posted by: Mark | April 12, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

Anyone who has been out of work and waiting for some honest input, a leg up for once to get going has every right to be angry, fed up and bitter as they watch this government spending American tax dollars fighting to a useless and immoral war in Iraq. I have a job. But if I lived in an area of the country suffering now from a lack of jobs, I’d sure as heck be bitter. And I’d be looking for real change. Why is my country spending billions of dollars to buy off both sides in a pending and unavoidable civil war while my family both pays for and suffers from such action? Why wouldn’t people be bitter?
dusty

Posted by: Dusty Austin from Austin, Texas | April 12, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

Obama is full of baloney. This is just another one of ‘those comments’ that says very little.
Obama is the consumate politician – always says the right thing, always trying to mirror the voters, always trying to be everyone’s friend. That’s great but I have yet to hear him make specific statements on what he is going to do solve the nation’s problems.
I’m a democrat but John McCain gets my vote in November if this is the alternative.

Posted by: Mark | April 12, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am

I’m a PA voter and Obama is right on the mark. He is the only candidate that gets it. I’m not sure that he will win PA but I’m sure he is going to win the primary and he’s going to destroy McMore-War in the fall. People are beginning to realize that Obama is the REAL-DEAL. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 12, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Hillary supported NAFTA
Hillary and Bill profits from Columbian trade deals,which she opposes. This should be the main issues for the PA voter.
Obama 08!
Yes We Can!

Posted by: merle7 | April 12, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Wrong Roger. Nothing to spin here. Obama speaks the truth, whether it’s what people want to hear or not, unlike your typical politicians. PA voter 100% for Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 12, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Obama wouldn’t know the truth if someone beat him with it. I wonder if there were enough white people there when he made his insensitive talk. He does talk down to people, especially white folks. He lies about eveything. In this day of the internet, I wish everyone would research all the candidates to make an educated decision. Nobama

Posted by: Russ | April 12, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Isn’t it great that Obama’s fundraising is coming from normal citizens unlike the others. Maybe all these people are seeing something that Russ can’t see yet. I suggest that Russ and a few other people here do a little more research. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 12, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

These Obama Supporters who CLAIM—” Yes, We are BITTER ….etc etc and Obama is right…he is in touch with the people…etc..etc” ARE THE ONES OUT OF TOUCH….. the government is not the answer to your woes….the government will have place for our nation’s sercurity…but not for our day to day welfare……that is up to us— our life—our decision—–DO NOT BELEIVE THAT OBAMA IS THE ANSWER TO YOUR HAPPINESS—IF HE WINS– HE WILL CHANGE NOTHING–(except for his address—which would be great as I am sure he wants to get out of his house that REZKO helped him to get-)

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 12, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

a small town in NY. and let me tell you. He hit the nail right on its head. Hillary just doesnt get it. When she drives threw she doesnt listen..really listen.
Just like Ed. He will be replaced next time around.
Nafta has hurt small town America. Hillary talks about retraining, well for some of us who didnt do well in school, but had a good job in machine shops made good money. We all know they have all but came to a screeching halt.
Bill passed NAFTA, Hillary says she was against it, but excuse me i do not ever remember her saying it then.
what worries most is if Columbia fee trade deal gets passed. Like small town America they can not afford to have more Jobs leave their area. Bill is for it. Hill says no. Who will win that argument after Bill took and therefore Hillary $800,000.00. are they willing to return that money so Americans will see who won that one?
It’s not like they need the Money with their 108 million.
And that the statement right there THEY DONT NEED IT. THTS WHY SHE AND JOHN McCAIN DOESNT GET IT.THE HAVE LIVED TO LONG HIGH ON THE HOG!!!!

Posted by: darlene | April 12, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Everytime I see these words….
YES WE CAN !
YES WE CAN !
YES WE CAN !
I crack up….
Obama comes from Chicago— what has he really done ( cause all the legislature he claimed to have passed was really the genius work of EMIL JONES–)
Yes we can— Get rid of this dope…….Obama is best to go back to the Murky Political Waters of Chicago Style Politics….where Cash,Charisma and WHO YOU KNOW makes things happen…..and WHO DID OBAMA KNOW WHEN HE WAS IN CHICAGO DURING HIS POLITICAL YEARS….. :~(

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 12, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

carpeternyc
ARE THE ONES OUT OF TOUCH….. the government is not the answer to your woes….the government will have place for our nation’s security…but not for our day to day welfare……that is up to us— our life—our decision—-
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It was the Government that sold out our jobs WITH NAFTA. We don’t want welfare
Maybe you do ..But for some like my whole family going on welfare is a sin.
BUT Bill sold America on NAFTA..and in the process sold away our lively hood. WELFARE MY A**. I want my GOOD PAYING JOB BACK.
get a real thought of your own. NOT what the sell out has said
OBAMA will bring Change for THE PEOPLE.
NOT FOR THEIR FAMILY RICHES.
THE MILLIONAIRES DO NOT AND WILL NOT GET IT

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

“No I’m in touch. I know exactly what’s going on. I know what’s going on in Pennsylvania, I know what’s going on in Indiana, I know what’s going on in Illinois. People are fed up. They’re angry, and they’re frustrated, and they’re bitter, and they want to see a change in Washington, and that’s why I’m running for president of the United States of America.”
AND THAT IS WHY HE WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

vwcat: I can tell you for a fact that people in small town america do not discuss the fact that their lack of jobs is why they like to hunt and go to church. You don’t have to lie in order to make a point!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

He just doesnt get it.
He doesn’t even know how much he has condescended and insulted the people of the midwest, Penn and Ohio with his generalizations and insults to their values.
He is unelectable.

Posted by: s.b. | April 12, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

What is Obama proposing that he would actually do to relieve Pennsylvania misery?

Posted by: Just curious | April 12, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

It is not working class americans that are bitter just listen to these Obama supporters trying to explain the unexplainable! Listen to them and Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama and you will plainly see who is frustrated with america, who blames america for their problems and which group of americans love God and thier country! They are so in love with a man that they can’t even admit that he was wrong, just like he can’t distance himself from Rev Wright they can’t distance themselves from his sterotyping working class americans!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

So, the truth hurts!!! Well, maybe you should do something about it! PA vote Obama on April 22 and bring some changes into your lives!

Posted by: FrigidWeather | April 12, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

FrigidWeather
Exactly what changes would Obama bring?

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Lauren: Just listen to what you wrote and listen to the way Obama spoke those words and you can plainly hear the bitterness and contempt that he holds about working class americans. What he was doing in San Francisco, was trying to relay to his fat cat donors why the does not relate to working class americans, instead of looking at it as a problem that he has he simply turned the table and said well its not me it is them. It is because they are bitter,and frustrated that is why they don’t like me. Well if they are so bitter and frustrated then why are the supporting any politician,why don’t they say we are not going to vote period because it will do no good! No they have supported Hillary not because they are frustrated but because they remember the economic condition of this country was better under Clinton and they connect to her economic plan for them and the country! Unlike you and Obama most working class americans think that Bill Clinton was excellent steward of the economy and they would like to see that again.

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

The only thing I find “Condescending”, is How Hillary and John have taken his remarks out of context, and expect people to read that way.
They know that he was right, that the Government has failed them, and not just them all of us. As a democrat I can tell you I am pretty damn bitter about the war, bitter about the these giant tax cuts that are breaking our government, bitter about about our national leaders who have avoided the draft, who’s children don’t serve, bitter about Chenney, when asked about peoples opiion about the war said “so”, or when asked about the 4000 killedf and the 30,000 wounded said. “well they are volunteeers. Bitter about the Karl Rove, and his style of Campaign, bitter about Hillary and her Bosnia, and Bill and his draft dodging, and Hillary again about her was gonna join the Marines, Crap, yea in 75 when everything was over.
Clinton tells these folksa in OH and PA that she will reopen the Steel Mills; that is condencending, when is she going to tell the truth? Liars are condecending. Her phony “economic summitt” on the campaign stump is condencending. He5tr sudden plane for everything is condecending, her start to withdraw the troops in 60 days, How many, and when will it be completed and what is the criteria not being answered is condencending.
Obama008

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Just the facts people…
In the 109th congress, only ONE bill sponsored by Obama was signed into law.
(relief to the Congo)
In the 110th congress, exactly zero bills sponsored by Obama was signed into law.
Yep — he’s really on top of things.

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

This is just another attempt by an elitist politician to blame others for the fact that he is not getting their support, just like they blame america first and themselves last for any problem that america faces!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Thinking: So this furustration is this why they love to hunt and go to church?

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Since 2001, Clinton has consistently said the promise of more jobs and greater economic growth has persuaded her to support trade agreements. While campaigning for the Senate a year earlier, Clinton said that she also supported normalized trade relations with China.
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But as a presidential candidate, she has adopted a very different tone.
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so Hill how many jobs have been created because of those trde deals???
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“We’re going to take a look at every single trade agreement we’ve got and we’re going to make those trade agreements pro-America and pro-American worker,” Clinton recently said at a rally in Muncie, Ind., a onetime industrial hub where thousands of jobs have been lost in recent decades
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ONCE again I ask HOW MNAY JOBS WERE CREATED BECAUSE OF THOSE TRADE DEALS??
WERE THERE ANY LOSE OF BUSINESSESS BECAUSE OF THOSE TRADE DEALS?

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I thought Obama was a big Kennedy fan! I think it was John Kennedy who said ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country! Obama and other elitist always blame America and scapegoat some group in order to explain why they distrust america so much! He should listen to John Kennedy more and Ted Kennedy less!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Facts:
Pennsylvania had an economy that was largely tied to steel. The unions drove steel prices so high that the US could no longer compete in global economy. (most of the steel was exported and other countries could do better elsewhere.
In today’s market, US manufactured steel costs 30% more than that of other countries. A revives steel economy just is not in the cards.
So, what would Obama do for the good citizens of Pennsylvania? We don’t know the answer to that because, as usual, Obama focuses on or manufactures on issues but doesn’t offer a syllable about what he would do about it.
Not a syllable!

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

So many comments on this board are so extreme.eg How does Obama become a “Hater” for showing some unvarnished understanding of others?
I’ve met some real haters in my life and I don’t recognise that trait in Obama.
‘Haters’ from my experience are people who have experiencing some deep personal hurt and pain, and only know how to express their pain with vitriol, blame and anger.

Posted by: Michael | April 12, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

WHO ARE TH ELITISTS
HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON LAST YEARS WEALTH108 MILLION
JOHN McCAIN AND CINDY WITH ALL THEIR MILLIONS
How many Americans believe that if your that rich you can not understand what its like to worry about just surviving?

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Lance D. Obama is a product of private shooling too! Bill and Hillary were not always rich! Bill was one of the poorest presidents ever to leave office, the republican and all the special prosecutors saw to that! They never owned a home until they left the White House and now you complain that they are working hard and being sucessful! That is not something to be bitter about that is what america is all about!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Lauren
Do you really expect answers for your rhetorical questions. Rhetorical questions, as you man not know, are questions that cannot, by definition, be answered. How about something with some meat between the buns for a change?

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Hillary fans:
It looks like your candidate won’t make it any more than the traditional values of the democratic party will make it. Here are your choices now:
* Vote for McCain
* Vote for Nader
* Express your true beliefs by writing in your candidates name
* Don’t vote at all

Posted by: Aston | April 12, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Lauren: You are showing why liberal elitist are so out of touch with the rest of America! Obama surrounds himself with, Oprah Winfrey and others who are richer than Bill and Hillary,yet you do not complain about that! Why can Oprah make millions and Bill and Hillary can’t? Oh I see if you come to Obama then the sin of being rich is foregiven! Just listen to how silly your argument is, it is devoid of any logic or reason!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

I spoke to my Aunt Alice this morning.
She is from Bently Creek Pa. and i asked her what the scuttle butt is around there is ,on this issue.
” Barack hit it dead center ,”"
They are tired and do feel some bitterness for always being ignored by the POLITICIANS. You Know they say what you want to hear but mean next to nothing when Push comes to Shove.
by the way for those who do not know Bentley Creek is small town America

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

@S,
You are correct in one respect that is the Rust Belt was tied to the Steel industry, but wrong about the Unions. 1st you have to remember the union is of the workers, so you are saying that the workers drove the industry to the ground. I am sure those folks would like to hear that.
The fact is the industry drove it under by refusing to modernize the plants. While Japan built modern more effcient plants the steel industry dicided to milk their plants for everything it could, and in the end lost the edge.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

This is just another attempt by an elitist politician to blame others for the fact that he is not getting their support, just like they blame america first and themselves last for any problem that america faces!
–Russell
I think Americans have grown accustomed to politicians who tell them what they want to hear instead of the real picture.
1-Do you know why they call that place in PA the RUST BELT?
2-Do you really believe that those people are happy because they love their job?
3-Can you really think of any person with a sense of pride, who has lived on the promise of a better job for a quarter of a century, only to be deceived every time, not growing resentful and bitter?
If you can’t answer honestly to these questions, then you must be very naive, or doesn’t understand anything about politics.

Posted by: Lance D. | April 12, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Russell
Bill was one of the poorest presidents ever to leave office.
Could that be because he paid off Paula Jones??
I will do research on Him and Hill didnt own a home. I know they lived in the ARK. governors mansion. but i slightly remember that before they were Governor that they own a home. but i will find out .

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Yep, The Obama damage control blogger squad and their drivel arrive first.
Hey Obama supporters where is the message of Hope and Yes We can? Now people are bitter and frustrated. Sounds like Obama is the bitter frustrated one.
Patriotic Americans do not care for negative people like Obama and Carter Mr. Malaise. We do not live in Obama and Wright’s angry G-D-America world.

Posted by: geevill | April 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Russell,
The difference is that Obama admits his own elitism. That’s why he said he wouldn’t want his kids to benefit from affirmative action.
Maybe Bill and Hillary were poor when they started, but they are now disconnected with the world they come from, like most of them do.

Posted by: Lance D. | April 12, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Lance D: What you and Obama are trying to do is blame others for why they are not supporting him! In order to explain his own inabilaty to attrack working class voters he looks not at himself, but rather at the culture of those who oppose him in order to do what all elitist do in trying to rationalize why people do not get them!
So tell me do you really think that working class americans love to hunt and go to church just because of their economic situation? Do you think that they are racist who are afraid of people who are not like them? Why such disdain for working men and women, that you and Obama resort to sterotyping and name calling! It is the it’s not me it’s them attitude that elitist hold! Why not admit that what he said was elitist?

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

It’s not the bitter part that bothers me it’s the “they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” he makes people sound like uneducated backwards hicks that still people in God being the creator of life and not the theory of evolution because they’re less educated and poor and it does seem like he’s looking down on the middle income working class Americans.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | April 12, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Lance D: Bill and Hillary do not blame the culture of working class america! Thats why she is getting their support!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

I do not know why people hunt, but I do know one thing we all turn to God when we hurt. That can’t be denied.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

No she doesn’t blame them. She just promises them whatever they want to hear, but she will not deliver. That is Obama’s point.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Is this the this the Audacity of Hope that Mr. Obama talks about so much? Well I will say that he is Audacious but not very Hopeful!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Thinking! What has he promised? They know Bill Clinton delivered thats why they support Hillary!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Bill didn’t deliver in OH, PA, IN. That is also Obama’s point. They have filled them with false hope. Obama told them those old jobs will not be back, they need to learn new trades, reeducate themseleves.. There is no hope in the old MFG. Industry.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Russell–All the candidates to the presidency are in the elite. To pretend otherwise is hypocrisy: I don’t want to say that I am rich for you will say that I don’t belong. That’s BS.
This paragraph below is oversimplifying:
So tell me do you really think that working class americans love to hunt and go to church just because of their economic situation? Do you think that they are racist who are afraid of people who are not like them? Why such disdain for working men and women, that you and Obama resort to sterotyping and name calling! It is the it’s not me it’s them attitude that elitist hold! Why not admit that what he said was elitist?
Obama didn’t mean that people like fishing or hunting because of their economic distress. As a matter of fact he gave a detail explanation of this yesterday. Maybe you didn’t listened.
As to the second thing you said about Xenophobia I tend to agree with Obama on that. Americans, or no other people for that matter, like to be called such.
I traveled around the world quite a bit. In the latest election, Swiss Nationalists were blaming the foreigners for all their social problems. To pretend that Americans don’t harbor such sentiments is also being hypocritical.
I think someone need to tell Americans these things. They are not demi-gods. But even the Straight-Talker doesn’t haven that courage.

Posted by: Lance D. | April 12, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Thinking: You and Obama just don’t get it! Working class americans love their country in spite of their economic situation! Their love of God,Country,Family,and Hunting are not tied to a paycheck! They are devoted to God and Country whether they have a job or they don’t! What is it so hard to accept that when they lose their jobs they don’t stop loving their country,and become atheist! Sure they turn to God in hard times,but they praise him in good times too! They hunt not out of frustration but because it is a part of their culture and not because they don’t have a job. If they don’t have a job then hunting helps provide food for their families.

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Lance D: With all due respect I think that you and Obama should spend less time in Switzerland, worring about how they view us and start going to small town america and find out why they dont support you! Maybe if you spend more time with working class americans then you would be less inclined to sterotype them!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Russell,
A little hyperbol there. He never said they stop loving their country and become atheist when they loose there job. He said they become bitter, and turn to God when they loose their job. Which is correct, I have lost my job 3 times ,and my own buisness over the years. It is interseting to note that all of these times have been under a Republican Admin, and I became bitter

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

I wonder what Obama and other elitist think of a man that was born in a manger, had no formal education, homeless, and said give to Ceasar, what is Ceasar’s and to God what is Gods? Would they consider him just a poor ignorant man who did not understand that all of the problems that he faced was do to Roman occupation, therefore he has given up on government and become so bitter that he is looking to the next life and not this one!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Russell–I wasn’t talking about how the Swiss view us. I was making a point about things that are universal to all of us.
It is a fact that people tend to blame foreigners when things take a downturn. Americans blame mainly Mexicans, the Swiss blame Africans and people from Eastern Europe.
As to your last sentence, I am not interested in living in microcosm. I like to travel and I like my world views. We should all embrace the rest of the world. NO MAN IS OWN ISLAND.

Posted by: Lance D. | April 12, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

I fell sorry for any one who was not rasied in small town america were you still go to the local high school foot ball games and the guys go hunting on opening day thanksgiving and christmas are shared around the table not on ajet to nowhere or in a Hotel those that follow the money just don’t get small town america and flannel shirts.

Posted by: Bishop | April 12, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Lance D: If you don’t understand yourself how can you understand others? Why blame others for your lack of undrstanding about their culture? Lance you keep repeating your same bias of working people when you say they become bitter and turn to God! Working people do not turn to God out of bitterness they turn to God in spite of bitternes! Why can’t you understand that!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Russell
They did own homes before.
Clinton’s first home in Little Rock; 5419 L St. The Clintons lived here while Clinton served as attorney general from 1977-1979. It is a private residence.
Clinton’s former home; 816 Midland. This was the Clintons’ home after Clinton was defeated in his re-election bid for governor. During this time, Clinton worked for a local law firm. It is a private residence.

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Lance we here in small town Pa understan just what Obama see we have this fight with are arrogant family members that jet home for thanksgiving and christmas and say things like you need to get out of this place we know a snob when we see one.

Posted by: Bishop | April 12, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Thinking: What hope does he bring to small town america, if he says well these jobs are gone and they are never coming back! Hillary and others say well maybe those jobs are not coming back but through the right kind of leadership and investment new ones wil take their place! Small town america is not so pessimistic that they think that their lives will never get any better. They want someone to say the truth then they want them to roll up their sleeves and say you know this is the country that freed the world,ended segregation,put a man on the moon and we did not do that by sitting around felling sorry for ouselves, we did it because americans are tough and resilient and we beleive that the sun is rising on america not setting, that our greatest days are ahead of us and not behind us! This is what they beleive and thats what they want in a leader, not pessimism, but optimism!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Was it warhol that showed American small towns.?
Why is it the rich always looks for small towns to get away from the hustle and bustle of the big Cities that they live and work in.
They know small town America is where the HEART of America lives

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Go for a drive today and find a small town, and ask them if there ways of living has been changed because of the free trade. Or all of you Hill supporters afraid to find the truth?
Go to those towns who have lost there way of living and sit and talk to them . Find a little greasy spoon and chat awhile. Its time to find out for ourselves and not listen to the POLITICAL MACHINE.

Posted by: Lauren | April 12, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

BO is very much in touch – with Rezko like he truly understands how to make a profitable housing deal and solve you Pennsylvanian bitter crying baby’s foreclosures. You can trust Obama on how to deal with housing problems. He learned it all from his friend Rezko for 15 years.
He will lecture you for poor judgment, unlike his good judgment, to bring your problem to this econome. Why could he make a profit while you cannot – because you are bitter and lack of a judgment.

Posted by: touch | April 12, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Russell,
That is fine. I respect your opinion. I just don’t think that Obama meant nor said what these reports make it out to be.
The rejoinders to his talk were and are politically motivated, disingenuous to say the least. I think this kind of thing is the worst sort of thing.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Obama is to immature to reside in the White House… from vibrating cell phones to downgrading small urban towns… Hilliary 08 or McCain 08. We have a choice

Posted by: diane | April 12, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Thank you PA Resident for your calm and level headed comments. And for all the Clintonites going besirk, when James Carville refers to Pennsylvania as being “Alabama” between two cities is he being complimentary?

Posted by: DMR | April 12, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Thinking: Beleive me I hold no animosity to anyone who beleives in and supports Obama. I know that people say and do stupid things thats why they call us humans! I do not want to twist and distort what he said I know that there is a lot of context but in the end he did say what he said! I just dont’t undrstand why you and others can’t accept the fact that what he said was condecnding and sterotypical! Why does he not look at why he has failed to connect with working class voters as being something wrong with him and not them. You see to say it is my fault that I am not geeting their support would requrire a more introspective analysis and would require some acceptance of responsibility for that failure! Instead it is easier to say it’s not me it’s them, that puts all the blame for his lack of support on the ones who are not supporting him and releives him from some tough soul searching and admission that he has failed to connect to working class people! Maybe it is not that they don’t get Obama maybe it is they do get him but they just don’t want him to be their president because he does not share their values about who and what america is!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

I think Obama got caught saying just what he thinks Us steel closed in the late seventy’s and early eighty’s . We had good jobs when Clinton was in and we all remember that Regan did us in we all remember that. The last two years have been rough for most but I think that has been across the board.And we know an arrogant man when we see one its the talk today around small town america and we take great offence. We are not against free trade but when the laws are not enforced by our goverment we get p####D. Were called swing states because we are independent and what could be a blue state this year will bo red if its Obama.

Posted by: Bishop | April 12, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Obama knows something about anger, bitterness and resentment as he has demonstrated in his race speech – You people just don’t get it, do you. His race has been bitter for 300 years and he knows it. Trust him, it’s his word. Now, he is applying his theory to you Penn bitter citizens. It’s the Clinton administration’s fault – forget about the unpreceedent prosperity in the history of this country during that 8 years. It was all Clinton machine propaganda. Obama has his words for you, you bitter crying baby. What? you mean Clinton administration generated more money than spent? You mean no deficit? forget about it. it’s Clinton machine.
Let me tell you something, Obama knows you are bitter because he was educated at Harvard and paid every penny of that education, see how smarter he is – wait, maybe he got some help on fees after so long bitterness.

Posted by: anger | April 12, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

If small town folk are bitter, are the slum dwellers in Rezkos apartments not bitter?

Posted by: Just curious | April 12, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Obama insulted, belittle put down and abuse the Backbone of this country.

Posted by: seah | April 12, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Russell,
I think Obama is aware of the problem he was trying to express it. He is correct, they are skeptic, and even more so of him. Those are the facts.

Posted by: Thinking | April 12, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Obama is right. People are bitter. I’m glad he recognizes that people are bitter in certain areas due to economic problems. This is the first step in trying to change the economic situation in those places. I come from such a place and we have little faith in the government being of any help to people willing and eager to work hard for decent wages to allow us to live a nice middle-class life. The government does not need to give welfare to the people in these areas, but, if they want to help those people, they can help us make it more attractive for businesses to operate there (and in the US in general) and more attractive to buy American. At least Obama realizes there is a problem and a huge wealth divide in the U.S. Too bad the other politicians don’t focus on this very very important issue, but I guess that’s politics.
I support Obama because he is the only one who talks about the hard stuff (even though it’s political fodder), and at least has SOME answers and shows some real understanding of the problems we face.

Posted by: Marilyn | April 12, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Marilyn
Yes — Obama talks about the hard stuff. Unfortunately, he doesn’t specify what he would do to solve the problems he raises. Anybody can blather about what’s wrong. It takes brains to solve the problems.

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Thinking: They are not bitter people beleive me. Just because they have lost faith in politicians does not mean they have lost faith in God and Country! They are skeptical but they are not bitter,the are more optimistic and less pessimistic than Obama thinks. AS Bill Clinton said they want someone who is worried about their tomorrows and not their yesterdays! Remember the Audacity of Hope! Not the Audacity of Pessimism!

Posted by: russell | April 12, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

obama is coment is down right wrong is , im a middle class person from ct and when you a middle class person you are poor in today economy, and im not bitter , and yes he is right that people in washington will say anyhing to get elected but does he forget that he is part of washinton for the past 4 years

Posted by: ernie | April 12, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

ernie
Obama has been a part of Washington. A very very ineffective part. His history in Illinois and in Washington portray a real empty suit!

Posted by: S | April 12, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

This Media on Obama Side is nonsense and the Clinton supporters are playing it up to keep the media playing nice to Hillary. Every story about Obama has a negative twist to it since Feruary when the Clintons realized they would not walk away with the nomination and started a strategy of bashing the media to get help with there dirty work. This story in particular is ridiculeous. How could someone with Obama’s background be elitist? Elitist people dont choose to take a Harvard Law degree and use it to be a community organizer in the Ghetto. Obama is right. What is amazing though is that many of the American people can elieve the disingenuous Clintons want anything ecept to fill there insatiable need for power and to share the nations wealth amoungst their friends.

Posted by: mal | April 12, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

s – there is nothing wrong with obama out spending hillary in all thezse states i voted for hillary and refuse to vote for obama even in nov if nomonated , all i can say is why he out spending her is becuase he being sopport more by the weathly american why els most of his donor are max out on there contribution, and hillary sopports are more along the line of poor to middle class people that dont have that much money to part with

Posted by: ernie | April 12, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Hey Obama, it’s your wife that’s bitter. Is that why she clings to Rev. Wright’s church?

Posted by: Rob | April 12, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

This is another diversion tactic by
the Clinton Campaign to take attention
from Bill Clintons continued lies about
Hillary’s Bosnia Sniper Fire Story!
The Clintons(also known as Pinnochio and
Joe Isuzu) must have aides going over
every word Obama speaks in their
patheic game of “Gotcha”!
Where is Clinton supporter Jack Nicholson when we need him?
Hillary and Bill can’t “handle the truth” or tell the truth!

Posted by: reaganfan | April 12, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

It is so sad to see people here claiming to love God, but jumping on the truth and filling their hearts with defenisiveness against the most respectable person in the race. Obama is the only candidate running who truly has the intelligence and the sincere Christian values to lead this country. Hillary is a liar and a panderer, and worse, her policies (do you REALLY believe her stance on trade???) will hurt Americans. McCain is also talking out of both sides of his mouth, and he really has no idea how to help the working class of America. Decide with your hearts AND minds, people. Obama is the best choice for the country (signed, a RURAL, MIDDLE-AGED, CHRISTIAN WHITE WOMAN).

Posted by: anotherpatricia | April 12, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Obama just because you are running for the White House doesn’t give you the right to label people bitter because they won’t vote for you. Condescending, Arrogant, Liar, Inexperience, Flip Flopping politician you are. Stop deceiving the voters and quit already. You are not gonna win the elections Obama.

Posted by: Persio | April 12, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

i’m so ashamed and proud @ the same time What a paradox our country is becoming and is going through. As I have been studying the blogs from many sources and trying to detect gender from the context, I found that more men support Hillary than women do. I think this tells us a lot about our society. If you can just take a step back and think about what you are writing.
80% of the men write logically 20% emotionally. 56% of the women write emotionally while about 30%write logically an 14% are torn yet either overly excited or confused.
You may say how i could tell this is boggus. well maybe. But first of all women’s blogs are easily detectable. ofcourse there are less than 1% who purposly try to confuse their gender ID. For better or for for worse at least I took the time to study this because I care about what is happening to our country.
I tried to tacle the race difference it was harder but nonetheless visible. I found AA men like white men are not as harsh on Hillary and the hillary AA supporter are older looking from the experience they write about they go from 40 + to 60+ Younger AA are plain rude and could not tell if they were male or female because younger crowd have a new unisex language now like one size fits all. and they can be explosive at times.As I said earlier the race study is not conclusive and I’m still at it.Anyway this is notthe firsttime that I’m proud of the men of this country Hillary need to have more of them to come down from Mars to win this thing.

Posted by: ruthmatters | April 12, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

i’m so ashamed and proud @ the same time What a paradox our country is becoming and is going through. As I have been studying the blogs from many sources and trying to detect gender from the context, I found that more men support Hillary than women do. I think this tells us a lot about our society. If you can just take a step back and think about what you are writing.
80% of the men write logically 20% emotionally. 56% of the women write emotionally while about 30%write logically an 14% are torn yet either overly excited or confused.
You may say how i could tell this is boggus. well maybe. But first of all women’s blogs are easily detectable. ofcourse there are less than 1% who purposly try to confuse their gender ID. For better or for for worse at least I took the time to study this because I care about what is happening to our country.
I tried to tacle the race difference it was harder but nonetheless visible. I found AA men like white men are not as harsh on Hillary and the hillary AA supporter are older looking from the experience they write about they go from 40 + to 60+ Younger AA are plain rude and could not tell if they were male or female because younger crowd have a new unisex language now like one size fits all. and they can be explosive at times.As I said earlier the race study is not conclusive and I’m still at it.Anyway this is notthe firsttime that I’m proud of the men of this country Hillary need to have more of them to come down from Mars to win this thing.

Posted by: ruthmatters | April 12, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

That’s it. I’m done. Clinton just lost my vote any which way, shape, or form. Come this fall. Go Obama!

Posted by: Cyndi | April 12, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

Just curious,
Good question.
He thinks he can change everything immediately just like “Jenny in the bottle”

Posted by: crisis08 | April 13, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

The truth will set you free. None of likes to hear the truth but it is necessary. We do tend to vote subjectivly and it is good to hope that maybe someday, this day, someone,Obama, will create hope in all of Americians. Maybe it’s ok to dream again of a better place where the people we vote to serve us,really will.

Posted by: Ray Trypuc | April 13, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Obama’s apologies only make matters worse.
It’s like his “typical white grandmother comment”. Remember how he compared his “white grandmother” to “Jeremiah Wright”, so he didn’t have to apologize for Wright’s radical remarks in a church of God?
Now he is comparing “BITTER” Pennsylvanians to his home state of IL. He is calling his home state of IL (and several others) “god fearing, gun, toting, racists” like he did with his “typical white grandmother”. Maybe he feels the people will forgive him if he throws his home state under the bus.
That big bang you just heard is the OBAMA BUSMOBILE crashing into the wall of “truth and honesty”.
HILLARY / EDWARDS 2008!

Posted by: RURAL AMERICAN | April 13, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

I can no longer listen to Obama speeches, knowing that it is just words, words mean nothing

Posted by: amietwo | April 13, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Barack Obama has proven time again he has very little belief in Americans. We are all poor pitiful victims that are bitter and cling to religion out of our weakness!?
Give me a BREAK!
I believe he just put the last nail in his coffin.
Good riddance.

Posted by: Ava B | April 13, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

All those fly over states with those little towns elect our presidents. The electoral college is still alive and well. This candidate is terminal.

Posted by: KnightRider | April 13, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

What I love is that this is from the guy who claims to “pray to Jesus every night.”
Which is it Obama, are you a proud, devout Christian like you have recently claimed, or are you something else who suggests that bitterness is what drives people to “cling” to religion?
On a positive note, I am enjoying watching him grab shovel after shovel and keep digging!

Posted by: Neverdem | April 13, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

I GREW UP IN PA IN A SMALL TOWN AND TO DATE NOTHING HAS CHANGED. YES I AM BITTER BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THIS SMALL TOWN. THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE VALUE OF OUR VOTE..NO POLITICIANS DEEM IT NECESSARY TO VISIT OUR AREA..THERE IS NO CONTACT WITH AA.. I ONCE VISITED SEN. ARLEN SPECTERS OFFICE WITH A VERY SERIOUS COMPLAINT WHICH I HAD WRITTEN HIM ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT NEVER GOT A RESPONSE. I EXPLAINED THAT I HAD 2 CHILDREN TO SUPPORT AND THAT THE JOB I WORKED FOR HAD FIRED ME FOR BEING SICK. SEN. SPECTER CAME OUT OF HIS OFFICE AND LOOKED AT ME AS THOUGH…WELL, I GOT NO HELP OR RESPONSE FROM HIS OFFICE..I WENT TO SEN. TED KENNEDY’S OFFICE AND GOT SOME HELP AND REFERRALS THAT WOULD HELP ME. JUST AS EXAMPLE OF HOW THINGS ARE RUN IN PA…I PRAY TO GOD THAT SEN. OBAMA STAND UP FOR OUR CLERGY TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN THEIR SERVICES AND SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID TO THEIR PEOPLE AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONE. DR. KING AND EVERY ORGANIZED MARCH HAS ALWAYS BEEN THROUGH OUR CLERGY. WE DO NOT HAVE TO APOLOGIZE AS A PEOPLE TO SEN. CLINTON OR ANYONE ON OUR ETHNICITY. THEY BOTH OWE REV. WRIGHT AND SEN. OBAMA AN APOLOGY FOR CROSSING THE LINE.
SINCE WHEN DID SEN. CLINTON OR MCCAIN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT, ACQUIRING A DECENT JOB, PAYING FOR COLLEGE TUITION, HAVING DENTAL AND MEDICAL INSURANCE, OR FILLING YOUR CAR UP WITH GAS TO GO TO WORK….
I CAN SAY WITH TOTAL CONFIDENCE THAT NEITHER SEN. CLINTON OR MCCAIN HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE…I KNOW SEN. OBAMA AND HIS WIFE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS TO STRUGGLE..IF AMERICANS WOULD BE HONEST THEY WOULD OWN UP TO THE TRUTH..THERE WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION,DISCRIMINATION IS MORE ALIVE TODAY THAN 30 YEARS AGO, THERE IS NO EQUALITY AND IF THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE, THEN THE VOTE WILL GO TO BARACK OBAMA..AGAIN, KNOW THAT THE CALL FOR STOPPING THE BICKERING WITH SEN. CLINTON AND OBAMA IS NOT SEN. OBAMA’S FAULT. SEN. CLINTON REFUSED TO ABIDE BY THE REQUEST OF THE VOTERS, DELEGATES AND THE DNC. TO LET IT GO…OBAMA HAS WON…JUST WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT HER..QUIT BLAMING OBAMA BECAUSE IF SEN. CLINTON HAD GOTTEN OUT OF THE RACE, THERE WOULD NO BICKERING..
IN CLOSING, SEN. OBAMA PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR RELIGION, OR ETHNICITY. WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU AND WE ARE PRAYING FOR AMERICA…YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RESPOND TO ALLEGATIONS OR ANYTHING FROM THE CLINTON CAMP BECAUSE IT ONLY GIVE THEM PUBLICITY .
FROM A SMALL TOWN PERSON IN PA WHO IS BITTER AND FOR GOOD REASON…

Posted by: gwen | April 13, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

He’s right!!!!!
I may not be from Pa. and I’m no elitist but I am bitter. BITTER!
BITTER! BITTER!!!
Politicians have been making promises of a better tomorrow for the last 30 yrs of my life and from what I’ve seen is that they are the elitist and that they believe that we can’t get along without them. They act as thought they are the ones the only ones who can set things right. Well, I say the have had their chance and that enough is enough. The rich keep getting richer by using government to gain unfairly economically. Now who’s the elitist?!!

Posted by: Hamburglar | April 13, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Obama is basically a Marxist. Karl Marx said the very same thing about people turning to religion because they are economically oppressed. This is the context of his famous “religion is the opiate of the people” comment. Then Vladimir Lenin made Marx’s political theory a revolutionary reality in Russia and it became the pit of hell for the next seventy years. Maybe this is why Obama had a Cuban flag superimposed with the image of Che Guevara hanging in one of his campaign offices…he equates the free market capitalism of our consitutional republic with autocratic rule and serfdom of pre-revolutionary Russia. Yes…change is coming but it isn’t the change you are expecting. I give the country five years before it implodes if Obama wins…not much hope with Clinton or McCane either. I guess its the end of the great experiment…a mere 230 years in the rise and fall of great nations and civilizations.

Posted by: Jim | April 13, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Yes, the comment is truly stupid, shows economic illiteracy, and the typical Harvard prejudice against the kind of “real people” who live in small towns.

Posted by: Bob L. | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Hillary is hopelessly flawed – no wonder
ceratain words peeve her.
Hillary did nothing for upstate NY just
over the PA border. Wakey wakey.
“This is the message of hope we are called to proclaim and embody in a world where self-centeredness, greed, violence, and cynicism so often seem to choke the fragile growth of grace in people’s hearts,” the Holy Father encouraged.
Hillary disdains the use of words such as hope, words, rhetoric and takes obama’s remarks about change and flips them as if they be refelective her true nature – and she and mcsame being the real angels for change – lol.
Fugget ’bout it. Lovers of being conned and conned again, are many – sorry to say.
Not an honorable human – lets pray pa-ers are do what is in the best interest for all of us. Making history for an America whose founding fathers words are soon to be realized. A person whose people suffered through slavery and son of a mother who bore the shame who then has
risen to lead us to that shining city on the hill. As like a St Patrick who was taken as a slave at sixteen then managed to escape to later return to lead a people with great nobility.
The urgency of the NOW is upon us. What an American story to excite our youth for true greatness.
Our enemies would then as a consequence – like ants be unable to cope with the wonders of it all

Posted by: awareness | April 20, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

The painting of Obama as this and that
is akin to anyone who complains of the
billions going to keep an occupiier
state in place. The wave of tarring
and feathering that ensues is massively
awesome – and then the scared sheep
in harmony bleat with abandon for
the tribe that bore their g-d.. Observe how it goes down … connect the dots.

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