Obama Discusses the ‘Provocative’ Rev. Wright Sermons He’s Attended

Thinking…I have been going to the same church for 12 years. Yes, I am there to worship God not my Pastor but I am there as well as my children to learn from my Pastor. If my Pastor said any of the things that Rev. Wright said, I would be out the door the very FIRST time anything like that was said. You mentioned honesty. Do you really think Obama is an honest person??? Get real.

“Obama expressed regret that the man who married him and wife Michelle and the church he’s called home for more that 20 years have been the subject of close press scrutiny”.
If only Obama would have come under this same press scrutiny, the Dems would not be in this mess! Barack is a con man. Or as the good Rev. said…..A politician……..

Rhat separatist message is designed to keep peole in the black community, under the thumb of their leaders and scared to participate in the larger society. It is very deleterious.

Bottom line for this election is that Obama is a junior Senator with very limited experience. He is just not qualified to be our president. That’s my only issue.

I believe that most of the Hillary posters really don’t care what was said. This is just more hate talk. In other words it is just bigotry. And from the Hillary camp it is win at all costs.

Thanks LogicalThinker for that piece. Some folks who have never been to church are now singing Hallelujah against Obama.

The story ABC just can’t get enough of. . .
Yet they still haven’t done anything about Rev. “monarch of America” Moon and his influence on the Bush family and the Republican party.

Someone who really loved and appreciated America would have picked up his family and left Wright and that church behind. He stayed for more than 20 years, got married by Wright, had his kids baptized by Wright, made the church the biggest beneficiary of his charity, and embraced Wright as “his spiritual mentor” and “sounding board” and put him on his campaign team!

People need to learn more about all religions and the style of sermons of each. Rev Wright is not a racist nor a bigot. He is simply a peacher who is reaching out to others in ways they can relate to. By pointing out wrongs, one can think of what is right. By damning something one can insist on change. His style is simular to fire and brimstone. I would suggest that everyone study all religions, visit different churches, then they can better understand. Don’t change your beliefs just be open-minded so you can better understand others.

The truth is that Obama does have a way to input to Rev. Wright..it is called get up and leave the Church. Sen. Obama has a history of questionable judgements in the people he surrounds himself with for political advancement. He also has had relationship with Rev. Meeks, a rev. with other racist statements. I don’t mind Sen. Obama is a black/white man… but i do mind that he seems to think the white half of himself is not as important and his black half. I do hope that he will embrace the other half of himself, but i will not vote for someone who has made comments and lets his staff say that white, older, people are not important and he can win without thier vote.

If Senator Obama is so interested in changing the national political debate he should also consider what his Reverends sermons did to the parishioners who SOAKED UP THIS VENOM!

Obama was so offended he donated about $25,000 to the church. Al Shaprton and his latestlynch mob of 92% Obama suporters would feel right at home with Wright.

Obama is not responsible for every word that comes out of someone else’s mouth just like none of us is responsible for every word that comes out of anyone’s mouth.
I am responsible for me and me alone. I have no control over anyone else including my children when they are not in my sight. Can all of you say that your kids have always done as you would have them do?
To each their own…
Debbie

james
The truth has already been told by time. You just overlooked it!

Guilt by association is still very much alive in our country. Those whose real antipathy to Obama because of his race justify their bigotry by manufacturing vitriolic innuendo based on half truths and statements taken out of context by someone he associates with just as during the McCarthy era. They should be ashamed to dwell on the trite when our country is so troubled by the economy, war, lack of good jobs, education and, yes, bigotry and racism. Lost in shallow attempts to assassinate character are the discussions on the candidates agenda to address our real problems so we can learn how he intends to recover from the disastrous mess the Republicans have got us into into the last 7 years.

People who are truly interested in understanding Reverend Wright’s church and his ministry will listen to the interview by Bill Moyers.
It is not unpatriotic to question the government, nor is it racist to speak out against racism.
Many people will use this issue as a reason for not supporting Senator Obama, and this is, of course, their choice.
There will be other voters who choose not to support Senator Clinton’s bid for the nomination because of the $800,000 that she and her husband received in support of the trade deal with Columbia.
Perhaps the press can begin to report on the issues: jobs, the economy, health care, the war in Iraq, etc. and try to avoid this trend of character assassination through association.

Our country has made tremendous strides since the Civil War and since the 1960s Civil Rights struggles. In a recent poll (see the Smithsonian May edition) among juniors and seniors from all 50 states, an open ended poll of the ten most famous Americans had THREE African Americans in the top THREE and four in the top ten. Number one was Martin Luther King, Jr. The remaining three were women, number two being Rosa Parks. When the same poll was given to adults, the only changes made were among white famous Americans while blacks remained the same. Our days of bigotry are ending; so should inflammatory speeches.

When the U.S. Ambassador made the statement on Fox News, before Rev. Wright did, did all the people in the studio get up and leave, and did you all change the channel?

One question to Obama supporters.
What was were the people in Wrgiht’s church doing when he was making these comments?
shaking their head and saying no. no.
or cheering, whooping and hollering agreeing with the hate and racist statement?

Obama and Michelle embraced every word and thought of Wright. He preached a lot of anti-white, anti-American sermons. Michelle has repeatedly used remarks and actions which shows how deep she believes in them but the media doesn’t bring it up (only Clinton’s).
If Wright’s words were never revealed, Obama would still use Wright as his guiding force.
The media admitted having knowledge of this but chose to ignore it. What is this telling us??
BE SMART AND DON’T FLOCK TO THE LIGHT OF OBAMA.

During the G-D America comments Wright’s church members were acting like it was a Jay-Z concert. They agree with every word.

I am going to reject Barack Obama. I am not only dennouncing him. Rev. is not helping Barack Obama at all. He should be hidden in the darkness like Michele Obama. They are not the type who are going to apologize to the american people, therefore it is everything to loose and nothing to gain. Both of them are doing harm. Enough said.

The only person who has turned this around is Hillary Rodham Clinton. She is wearing the pants..she has the momentum .Obama is not even wearing an skirt.

Chrisitian:Momentum? I would hardly characterize winning Ohio and Pennsylvania as momentum. Both states are filled with blue collar workers and old people (her loyal base). Last time I looked, Pennsylvania is the 2nd oldest state in the country. No momentum there.

Look, lets call it like it is. Obama chose to hang out with radicals and racist people. Now lets get that behind us. It’s possible that he had a defining moment in his life and changed how he see’s things. Only Mr. Obama knows that for sure. However we seem to be talking about how many suits he has. We need to know how many pairs of shoes and that he eats pot roast for dinner. We found out he shot 50% at the foul line and can’t bowl worth a flip. What the heck does this have to do with anything? If he would stop trying to spin everything because he thinks he is now being seen as an elitest things would be a lot better. Mr. Obama you are an elitest and a young multi-millionare, so what? None of this has anything to do with your being able to handle the extremes and pressure of being the most public and powerful man in the world. Where did you ever get the idea that people don’t want you be elite and special? Just get on message without spin and let us try to judge you for what you really are. Which most of us just don’t know or can’t figure out. Relax, chill out, there’s a long way to go. If you don’t get the prize this time you sure should next time.

Wright has told us not to believe anything Obama says -he is a just a politician.

Lake Hart – A Native American Writer
You missed the point. Try again. You might get it if you try!

Now I understand why Obamas wife was never proud of our country. When you attend a church that has a pastor who preaches hate on Sunday it probably rubs off on you. I for one love my country and am offended by Rev. Wrights remarks. Too bad he didn’t preach love instead then maybe the Obama family would love this country and be proud of it.

Obama is creepy.

Methinks there wil be a lot of Democrats taking a good look at their party and switching sides. Research the Global Poverty Act, and see where Obama wants to send your money and who he wants to control the sending of it.

Kitty said: Obama is creepy.
Is that the best you can come up with?

Al: You said Obama is a liar, and we should believe you because you are credible? LOL!

Obama is also lame.

Wait a moment. How does Obama expect to sit with tyrants when he cannot and has not confronted his pastor.
First there was the spin that Obama did attend the Church when such things were said, then there was the statement by Senator Kerry to Imus that Obama slept through these sermons, and now there is a statment that Obama attended the church and did not ever speak to his pastor about the tone of the discussion.

Rev. Wright will be an issue as long as we are willing to focus on the trivial. I wish some of that anger could be directed as those responsible for the death of so many of our soldiers and the emptying of our coffers. What is more treasonous? A pastors sermon at his church or the propaganda by our administration that led us into this war?

“Fact of the matter is people got carried away and were brainwashed by Obama’s empty words and speeches. And in process he won enough delegates and brainwashed enough people to get the needed support. ”
This is exactly what happened!!!!!

Senator Obama has more than answered every question that’s been put to him. Don’t accuse him of not answering questions just because you don’t like the answers he’s given. If you don’t like him, don’t vote for him. Its that simple. But don’t lie about him.

Posted by: Somacandra ,
No he and his supporters can do enough lying without the Hillary people making stuff up. Time and time again he has lied and they need to start calling him on it. If all of this would have come out when it should have Hillary would already be the nominee.

To me, the worst problem of the Wright affair is that Obama is looking everyday more ‘politician’ and less of a messiah. Without an aura of hope around him, I cannot see how he could win in November. And this is just getting worse.

Those on the left tend to spin the issue in the wrong way. I am not an Obama suppporter, however I am very aware he does NOT believe or feel the same way that Rev. Wright does. My problem with Barak Obama has been the way he has answered the questions surrounding the issue.
I can not speak for Rev. Wright but he very well may be a decent man. I have charitable groups but do good works. This brings me to my point!
When originally asked Obama stated he hadnt observed that side of Rev. Wright. Even though he considered the man a mentor. Obama also stated he hadnt been in the church when Wright made these types of statements. We know now this is not the case. Obama was being dishonest.
Two issues.. 1) Does this an example of Obama’s lack of experiance? YES, I believe so. His overall handling of the situation sure does..
2) If Obama is caught being less than honest about this type of situation.. What happens when the man gets in the White House?

Obama will be the greatest ever mistake for America. This man just talk to attract people without real substance on the solution to the American problem.

If Obama gets the nomination all I can say is John McCain is in trouble! because all those balcks at southern states will be lined up to vote for him!
South states basicly will switch to democrat!
But than it again depends if Hillary supporters will put their support after all those nast comments against her for Obama!
I don’t think so!
Probably PA< OH< MI AND FL will go for Mccain. And possibly Nj and MA may go red too! I guess McCain will still beat Obama!

relationships with radical, leftist, violent and aggressive individuals may influence obama’s beliefs, morals, and values. there are democrats who’ll use 1st amendment right freedom of speech and choose not to vote if obama is the nominee in november.

So all of you here can honestly say you’ve never had a pastor, teacher, boss, friend, etc, you has said something that you don’t agree with, but still may admire the work they’ve done or are still friends with??? Come on, you all can’t be that ignorant can you? Of course I do forget that all HRC supporters are all perfect people only second to Jesus.

I think a lot of you people need to come down off of your high horses and be real for a minute. Is it entirely possible to have close spiritual relationship with another human being and not agree with every word they say or belief they have. Barrack Obama is not Rev. Wright. I am not casting my vote for Rev. Wright.

Bosnian Hilry has a rotten soul and her campaign believes in say anything and do anything to win. Hilry loves to kiss the rightwing Republican butts. Hilry suckers like to kiss them as well. Hilry and her campaign are bad for the Dems. She is truly a Monster, a devil in woman’s clothes…she will destroy the Dems.

James:
But then they should be honest
about specifics… Not spew the
empty, filthy ever changing rhetoric
of Obama who manages to cloud every issue…

You are right J. Hilry and her suckers truly love to kiss the rightwing Republican butts. She was already kissing McCain’s butt repeatedly….remember McCain has passed the commander-in-chief compliment…
Hilry and her suckers are really bad for the Dems. They will destroy the party….

You know, when I read the comments from a lot of these people, I realize just how dangerous the American people are to themselves and to the rest of the world. It makes me so ashamed to be an American when I see so many Americans who argue like little school children over ridiculous things such as this….name calling, etc… it’s just plain stupid. Nothing’s ever going to change, people, because the majority of you don’t know what change is, and won’t grow up.

Obama and his followers can spin issues as much as they want. Fact of the matter is people got carried away and were brainwashed by Obama’s empty words and speeches. And in process he won enough delegates and brainwashed enough people to get the needed support. Only AFTER that point that his dubious connections and links started coming out and thats when he started going down and his support drying up. Look at PA results. If you take out black-dominated areas (and by the way those are the only ones he won), he did not win a single place anywhere else in all of PA. From this point on he can only win black-dominated stares and primaries but thats about it. Now imagine if these issues had come out in the open before super-tuesday Feb 5. Obama’s campaign would have been down the drain and Hillary would have been the nominee in February itself. Obama’s delegate count and popular vote owes it to his own lies and coverups and also the MSM media who covered up his links and never brought out the true story. People still don’t know Obama and what all things he is covering up. He cannot be trusted and consequently cannot be elected as president.

If Hillary is soo good, then why is she still trailing in this race? something to be said about the numbers, or lack of support, she is not that good of a candidate, and most of all she is not a very trusting person…

Obama: “he had never ever heard of anything or known of anything controversial from his pastor up until the story broke out? That is a plain lie”
No, it isn’t a lie. If you take off your “ME!” blinders and look at it from a reality perspective, you’ll see that at the time when Obama heard the pastor speaking the truth, he wasn’t aware that it would be taken out of context and spun into controversy.
I’m not even for Obama. Good grief people…you need psychiatric help.

If Hillary is soo good, then why is she still trailing in this race? something to be said about the numbers, or lack of support, she is not that good of a candidate, and most of all she is not a very trusting person…
The reason Hal, and none of the core HRC supporters will ever say this, is they are afraid of electing a black man as president. Racism is alive and well in this country, don’t let anyone tell you different. I would put money on most of the HRC supporters out there will cross the street when they see a group of black youths walking towards them. They would much rather have a lying, cheat fat pantsuit running the show, they feel safer with her.

Runnerin…We didn’t stay and listen to hatred for 20 years…over and over and over.

This country needs a black president
that we respect and trust and
sadly that is not Mr. Obama…

I think the fact that HIllary Hasnt divorced Bill after making a fool out of her and her daughter is MUCH more an electability issue than Rev Wright…This is a distraction and another Republican trick that Hillary is falling for…She is so arrogant and that will be her downfall.

Thank you 1masterstroke. You are so right, and I, too, am an older white person who is supporting Obama–but not for racial reasons. I just see this country going down the tubes and the Clintons are part of the reason why. They certainly have their good points, but they are still part of the last 30 years of political mayhem that has this country in the mess it’s in. I don’t see Obama doing much more harm than has already been done, and maybe, just maybe, he can turn this trend around.

Beka:
You make a great point. As I woman, I can’t support Hillary. She served as a doormat for her husband and is now riding his coattails to the nomination. She does a disservice to woman all across this country who have made great accomplishments all on their own.

I can’t wait to see Hillary try to have talks with other world leaders, they see her lie all the time….

You can always tell when someone is overly self-assured about their incorrect perception of reality…
They always say, “Dream on” or something similar.

Bill, give a link to the sermon where he said that. I think you have twisted his word around. He did list a series of very questionable things the US government has done to other peoples that we never batted an eye about and then when evil is done to us we are indignant and say ‘We never!” well, we have! Let’s not be so high and mighty. But that wasn’t what hte sermon was about. it was about doing God’s will, and about how you must turn to God to try to do his will in good time AND bad. He was talking about church attendance being so high after 9/11, everyone wants God now, everyone’s asking God ‘how did you let this happen’, well, God let us do things, he lets bad things happen to us. “this is a time to examine ourselves. this is a time to examine our own personal relationships with God. it’s not a time to look at
God and ask him what he’s done for us, it’s a time for us to look at God and ask ourselves when is the last time we have tried to serve him…” …..that is all in that sermon too. bet you didn’t know that, huh?

jt: Why? Cause she’s the better liar?

If this how he builds unity, our country is getting ready for another Civil War. He is like Lincoln. Never has our country been so divided & bitter. Please, don’t give us 4 years of this guy. I’ve never felt more hopeless for the Dems in my life.

troy, you need to listen to his whole sermon. it’s not out of context. when you remove one sentence from it and completely disregard his lecture you are taking HIM out of context. His sermons were surprisingly very very good.

Please don’t decide your vote for either nominee based on a few well-chosen sound bites presented by the media to impress you about one candidate or destroy the character of another. Show me a politician who doesn’t lie. Show me a politician who doesn’t have ‘shady’ friends. How can HRC degrade Wright (actually aimed at Obama) when he was her own husband’s counselor during the bad times in the WH? How can Obama call HRC a liar when he said he hadn’t heard Rev Wright make deflamatory remarks? Read, learn, and listen, and THEN make your choice.

John Donnage: And Bosnia native Hillary or grandpa mccain is?

Troy
You believe the bible is truth? Like some super-human once breathed into a mud puddle an poof — there was Adam.
Forgive the rest of us Christians who have the sense to take some of the bible figuratively!

Shar, Obama did in fact make this a race about race. He targeted middle aged white women. He thought he was going to make them fall in love with him. He was soooooooooooo wrong. It was part of his strategy from the beginning. It backfired on him. He is so resistable.

These issues are not relevant. They play to the most base aspects of our culture. Nero fidels while Rome burns. Twenty-five years of focus on capital gains and supply-side economics have left this country bankrupt, embroiled in a foreign civil war, and with the lowest standard of living in the industrialized world.

roger, yeah…Hillary or McCain would be better leaders than this guy.

Her we go again with obama the politician.Only Rev.Wright knows how obama thinks as a non-politician.
HILLARY 08!!!!

Lincoln himself, during the civil war, as it was waging on forever and the causualties were absolutely appauling, made a speech that God was angry with us. He said something to the effect “if ever drop of blood that fell by the sword now has to fall at the hands of this war in order to cleanse this society of the evil of slavery”…essentially lincoln said EXACTLY what Rev wright did. God doesn’t change what he thinks is right and wrong. Governments do, and God will be angry nd will damn governments that are evil, no matter who they be, even, yes, even if shockingly, that is us. We are not good unless we ARE good. That is wright’s message. Hearing it, in it’s entirety actually made me MORE of an Obama plan. how much better a state of society would we have now if Bush a nd Cheney heard and took such a speech to heart????

Soetoro claims race is not a factor. How come his followers make it a factor?

Barack = Jimmy Carter, The Sequel

Uhh Tommy, you might want to check that. Young people have notoriously NOT shown up to vote. Old people, on the other hand, do.

“Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”….president lincoln….gee, he sound an awful lot like Rev Wright.

I have done my research.
I was an avid Hillary/Bill Clinton supporter. During this primary, I began to question the Clinton’s motives. Are they looking out for our best interests, or their own?
I would say the latter.

If someone has not read Rev. Wright’s complete sermon THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD SHUT THEIR BIG MONTH. UNLESS YOU READ THE WHOLE SERMON SHUT UP AND LET THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SPEAK.

What is very clear from this blog is that we all need to see Obama in another debate to fully answer these character questions!!!OBAMA NEEDS TO DEBATE HRC TO PROVE HIMSELF TO THE AMERICAN VOTERS!! Obama actually needs the debate more than HRC to put all of these unanswered questions to rest once and for all. OBAMA MUST PROVE THAT HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO STAND UP TO MCCAIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION DEBATES!! OBAMA MAN-UP AND DEBATE – FORGET THE ONE-ON-ONE WITH HRC. LET THE AMERICAN VOTERS ASK THE QUESTIONS TO BOTH CANDIDATES!! Let’s find out whether Obama can take the heat now BEFORE THE NOMINATION. IT IS ONLY FAIR TO THE VOTERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO DON’T WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF REPUBLICAN BS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. OBAMA YOU ARE RISKING OUR PARTY IN THE GE BY NOT DEBATING HRC NOW!!!

Rev. Wright said “God D***ed America for treating their citizens as less than human. He made reference to the Americian Indians, Orientals, and Hispanics. Not just Blacks…
When he made reference to “White” America, he was explaining people in power.
With that said, I’m not an advocate of Rev. Wright, I’m just merely doing my research.
I’m not voting for the things a candidate’s minister says, I’m voting for someone whom I believe will help my cause as an hard-working mother.
My 16 year old son has Autism, and the other day, his school TOLD me that He has to sign up for the selective service.
This is insane. So bloggers, I hope you see that this is where our country is headed…

I belong to the same denomination that O’bama belongs to and I have either listened to or read the entire texts of 87 of Jeremiah Wright’s sermons and I remain convinced he is part of the Black Power movement – just one step removed from the New Black Panther Party and Black Separatists which the Southern Poverty Law Center says are hate groups. Again, Martin Luther King, Jr. said the Black Power movement is a destructive philosophy.

Obama is such a liar!!! He lied to the whole nation. He said he did not hear those controvesial talks before after Wright’s video was broadcasted.

Why won’t Obama debate HRC again? What more does he have to hide?? Why doesn’t Obama think that he needs to prove that he has the skills to win against McCain in the GE?? Obama needs to prove that he can answer questions WITHOUT A SCRIPT!! Obama come out of the shadows so that we can get a close look at you DEBATE HRC AND PROVE THAT YOU CAN UNITE US IF YOU ARE THE NOMINEE. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR EXACTLY HOW YOU WILL “CHANGE” OUR LIVES FOR THE BETTER!!! MANY VOTERS ARE STILL UNDECIDED AND YOU COULD WIN IT ALL NOW WITH A STRONG DEBATE!! OBAMA WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO DEBATE?

OMG, and lastly, I just have to say to the poster a few up, black people put black people on the ships. Black people rounded up black people to get on the ships. Do you get that? Roots was a fictional story.

Obama is so wishy washy. First he says he wasn’t in church anytime Rev. Wright made controversal sermons now he says he was? Obama is a politician as Rev. Wright says and will say what he has to as a Politician. This and the fact that he’s the most inexperienced (Might I remind you of the “Present” votes in the senate)he is the least qualified to do the job of the President. I have a degree in Human relations & guess who I’m voting for….Hillary Clinton, the most qualified, the one with the biggest heart and will address our concerns,she is the candidate for the people. It gets so tiring from the Obama people that say Hillary is slinging mud. Guess what it’s politics and you can’t come into it and expect not to be beaten up some by everyone. It’s not all cotton candy and rainbows like Obama wants it to be.

Time for a change? It surely is. Time for people to quit making excuses and do what is right. And that means, BLACKS, WHITES, ASIANS, and any other culture. Quit making excuses for what is past and done. The future is what we must plan and I for one am sick of having racism thrust down my throat every time SOMETHING is said that someone doesn’t like.

If Obama knew he was going to run for president, he should have shown presidential judgement and gotten up and left the church, and sent a letter to Rev. Wright explaining the reasons why. Obama did not ever do that because Obama agreed with what Rev. Wright was preaching, and Obama CONDONED what Rev. Wright was preaching. Obama’s lame excuse, “I didn’t hear it,” has now turned into, “well, I heard some tough things”, well, that makes Obama a participant in a hate-filled church. Hamas and other terrorist organizations will tell you the good things they are doing in their communities if you ask them.

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.” Albert Cleage, Dr. James Cone, Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Malcolm X, Black Power – here you go Nodevils, have a fruit cocktail.

My response to Mrs. Clinton is this:
“You DON’T get to choose your family, but you CAN choose what president you elect. Hillary Clinton, I would NOT choose you for president.”

shelbybob35051:
Thank you, and have a nice day..

Shelby, I thought the same thing. This blog is not about policy – explicitly what was said by Obama about his minister. Policies regarding this country can be found on other blogs where Shaarona’s opinion will be welcomed I’m sure.

“When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.”
Japanese Proverb
Goodbye Mr. Obama…

One last point:
The reason any of us who still doubt Obama spend so much time on his friends and associates? Because we still don’t really know very much about this guy!
A couple of books (he can say anything he wants), his legislative career as a state Senator in Illinois, a few votes in the Senate, and some “inspirational speeches”.
Hmmm…when was the last time the country (s)elected a charismatic leader with meager public record? Oh yeah, President Bush!

One thing that comes to mind is that BO is in the process of innoculating the public against something awful that will soon be reported about the things that came out of this pastor’s mouth. The Clintons are notorious about this innoculation approach. That way, when the news is finally out, they dismissed it as “old news”. The other thing that is obvious to me is that if this is a Christian church, when does the pastor preach on God’s Word? There is no scriptural references in the transcript or even captured on video. It’s not a church devoted to worshipping God, but a forum for racists.

Ron, How have you been?

If you want to know the kind of people that will be in Obama’s administration, then look at the people running his campaign, on his advisory boards (Rev. Wright was on the campaign spiritual advisory board) and the people hooking their carts to Obama’s wagon. “Guilt by Association” is the BEST WAY to learn about how and with who a president will run a country. Look at the disaster named George W. Bush – Obama will be WORSE!
TELL THE DNC TO COUNT ALL 50 STATES VOTES!
SAY NO TO THE DNC CORONATION OF OBAMA!

@S:
I’ve heard that, and I’ve read the defense put up by Obama partisans that most of these “present” votes were strategic, done at the bidding and for the good of “the Democratic Party”. I won’t rehash their convoluted rationalizations here. I found them unconvincing.

@ Cathy:
Once again, you miss the point.
We spend so much time on Wright or Ayers because we really know very little about Obama.
The guy has next to no public career. How else are we then to decide what kind of character he has, except by the company he keeps?

FYI, if we judge Obama based on his relationship with Wright, we’ll have to judge the Clintons for who they are. Bill Clinton cheats on his wife in case we forgot – in the White House – and not just once but at least four known times. The Clintons lie and have to be the most selfish couple in America. Do we care about that? Alot of people do which is why Clinton is unelectable. Ever wonder why McCain is going after Obama? He knows he can beat someone with a 58% unfavorable rating. Clinton is just looking for 2012. Make sure Obama loses, and try again. She could care less about the party – only about herself.
She cannot win even if the superdelegates give her the nomination -the youg voters, the blacks will not vote for her. McCain will beat Clinton. Clinton only purpose to stay in the race is for 2012 and tear Obama down. What a witch!!

Sandy: Don’t be so harsh on yourself…there’s not enough of you to actually make a difference..sorry

As Americans, hopefully, we can only hope that if Obama does win the presidency, and while I am not supporting him, I do think he will prevail, we can only hope that he will take this burden very seriously and realize that he must bring us ALL together…not just the black community. That will be the true test of this man’s push for change. And it will be a test of magnanimous proportions.

MK – “When you feel you have the “right” on your side, you can do some pretty horrific things.”
Is this not the strategy employed to turn humans into killing machines? Even military training is based on indoctrination into believing that we are the on the right side and that enemy is evil. When we reduce the enemy to something less than human and elevate ourselves to the status of purveyors of justice extermination is guiltless.

Ah well, folks, we can “blog” and “debate” til the cows come home, or the chickens, or the whatever needs to come home. In the end, the vote of the people, whatever they may be will win out. At that point, it will be up to that person to surround himself/herself with people of sound judgment and integrity. I for one, have a hard time envisioning many politicians who are able to do that effectively.

How to defeat McCain, using swiftboating and kitchen sink strategies – (1) Obtain copies from the courthouse of McCains divorce (2) remove snippets where his ex-wife describes his horrific temper (3) play the snippets over and over and over of FOX news…also, each time you show a picture of McCain, have a picture of his ex-wife above him screaming at him (4) Continue playing it over and over and over every day until November! Betcha he won’t get any votes…

Oh yeah, who else has a WHOLE month devoted to their History? Who else has a National holiday devoted to one of their slain leaders? Stop complaining, get a job, stay in school, be a father to your children, don’t let the grandparents raise YOUR children, stop listening to “Gangsta” Rap, and get off of Welfare.

JANICE -
The article point out specific act to reject, slavery and the like. It does not suggest making false accucations. Nor does it address them.
The Government distributes drugs and builds prision to entrap Blacks?
US deserved 9/11.
Government created AID.
WRIGHT-OBAMA STILL ANTI-AMERICAN!!!

You say that Jews got over it and moved on….You moron….the United States and Britain carved out all of the Palestinian people’s land and literally gave…that’s right…just plain gave…the Jews the Palestinians land to have their own country; and, the US gives the jews in excess of $2billion per year as a gift. I’m sure that black americans could “get over it” if they were given that type of aid. No, all blacks got was less than one generation of weak, so-called, affirmative action. Yet, in less than a generation, the white racists screamed “reverse discrimination”, while still giving billions in free aid to Israel!

Unfortunately, Americans, regardless of race, are blinded by their “own” biases, devotion to a party system (no matter how flawed), a name (Kennedy=dysfunction), religion, and belief system. For many of us, research just doesn’t exist. We simply read/watch the paper/show that most closely resembles our own thought processes, and go from there. WE have the freedom to vote, and yet many of us still vote only for a party/system….not research the choices. I have no doubt that at least 2 of the folks who did not make either party’s down to the wire nomination would have been better than what is available. But again, that is my opinion.

Sir, Wright is an ordained minister and does not have to keep quiet! Your disrespect of a preacher’s work is pathetic; and, your tone is condescending toward Rev. Wright, very similar to the Old Testament mentality that stoned the preachers of those days. Recall Luke 13:34, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! And, Luke 13:35, “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.” Well, sir, you can read the verse in your own bible and interpret “killest the prophets” and “stonest them that are sent unto thee” in any manner you like, and still it reflects your attitude toward Rev. Wright’s message. His message cannot be any more clear, REPENT OR GOD IS GOING TO DAMN AMERICA!!! You can form your own interpretation of “your house is left unto you desolate!” Just keep on acting stupid. You’ll find out just how desolate your house will become! Can’t be any more clear… Why should any nation be blessed for non-christian behavior? There are spiritual laws that preachers talk about; whereas politicians deal with legislated laws. Do you seriously think there will be no spiritual repercussions for killing? Can killed and tried to spin it, “Am I my brother’s keeper?” God cursed him, anyway! We have killed 4000+ U.S. Soldiers! 50,000 more severely wounded, killed 100,000 iraqi civilians and called it collateral damage, we have displaced 2 million Iraqis to Syria and only taken 30,000 into the USA, we invaded a sovereign nation that was not vital to our national interest nor security, we launched a “war of choice”… Do you think God did not see this? So, you just want to say, “am I my brother’s keeper?”….la di da…God Bless America….. NO, NO, NO….IT’S GONNA BE GOD DAMN AMERICA!!! FORGET POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, SOMEBODY BETTER CHANGE THEIR WAYS AND START REPENTING!!!

Nodevilsplease: Your comments are the exact reason why every American should fight against an Obama administration. Obama is definitely a devil in sheep’s clothing, and it’s becoming more and more evident as his “real” supporters start emerging to defend him.
SAY NO TO THE DNC CORONATION OF OBAMA!
TELL THE DNC TO COUNT ALL 50 STATES VOTES!

Sorry, nodevils, but if fidelity is a pre-requisite for politicians, then most need to step down now. Ted Kennedy being the first and foremost. Americans, sadly, proved that fidelity was NOT a factor in what they wanted in their president when Clinton was re-elected. As sad to say, they just don’t consider it to be important.

The Jewish plight and Holocaust does not even have a place on this board. That is a completely different subject and holds no merit when “discussing” Obama’s provocative Wright. To try and paint the “Holocaust” a systematic plan to literally eradicate a religious group as akin to slavery is absurd and beyond the pale. It is an affront to any historically educated person.

What does wright need to apologize for? He said God Damn america for the things its done to its people. will america apologize for what it has done to its people? What anger or rage does obama have? has he displayed any sense of anger or resentment towards america? no

This man basically ended obama’s chances of becoming president, and obama did not adequate slap the guy when he should have, he is gutless, and the revernd is a racist true to heart, stop playing with this issue, obama is dead in the water, but he does not have the guts to say it, he will never be elected now, no matter what, hillary will walk into the nomination at the convention when they realize he will never win, period. further obama has a loose mouth and says really stupid things also, wonder where he learned that,

S – so if I understand you correctly the delegates from all states should be treated equally, but the delegates from some states should be treated more equally than others. Have you ever considered how insulting that line of thought is to those of us that aren’t in your list of ‘good’ states.

If one goes through all of Dr. King’s speeches I bet you could find material to label him unpatriotic by the standards we employ here. If Jesus were here today I wonder what we would label him as?

Yes Cathy, Staistically more Whites are on welfare because there are more Whites in America than there are Blacks. SO that means that there are in fact more poor Whites that are in MAerica than there are poor Blacks, yet all I hear from are the “poor blacks” which proves my point about complaining. Poor White communities were hit just as hard in from Katrina in Alabama and Mississippi. But EVERYBODY had to focus on the “poor blacks” and how badly they were treated when in fact, everybody was hit hard.

Jack you make some good points to be honest. Regardless of history, MANY people in this country have been treated poorly. If history serves me correctly, the Irish immigrants were not much more than underpaid slaves when they came to this country. “Elitism” has always existed at some level, even from the first times of immigrants in this country. What I am extremely tired of is the CONSTANT cry of unfair about things in the past. If the person is black, It MUST be racism. That is not a fair indictment today.

Obama says he will change the discourse in Washington. Yet, over a 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright and attending his church Obama was unable to affect change. Actions speak louder than words.

allamr18
And what is the basis of your assertions that are verifiable — not counting his own words, of course.

They are complicated but still happen. whites gave indians small pox intentionally . We bombed japan when we knew they were going to surrender we killed more innocent people than the japanese did in their attacks on pearl harbor. We put sadaam in power gave him weapons training and money. The government has always lied to america. the cia used americans white and black in their tests of drugs like lsd and heroin. the govt gave black men syphillis and failed to cure them. so yes america has done horrendous things to its people. and what do you know about farrakahn prior to this event. have you ever looked up the work hes done for blacks? doubt it.

Let’s say a White, Southern, Evangelical preacher was caught on video screaming to his congregation about how the Black man is inferior, and how White people need to be afraid of Black people, and he quoted scripture to justify his remarks.
Then, a few months later, this same preacher was interviewed on FoxNews by Sean Hannity, and Hannity threw him softball questions. And in a calm, whispering tone, the preacher talked about how he is being misunderstood, and his words were taken out of context, and he really loves Black people, etc, etc.
How many liberals would buy it? How many Obama supporters would buy it? Need I say more.

I grew up in an extended family of white fundamentalists. I know what it is like to hear hellfire and damnation sermons from the pulpit. It is not possible to attend typical fundamentalist Christian services, especially Southern Baptist and similar southern-based denominations, without hearing hateful messages that are anathema to any liberal Democrat. Denunciations of gays and the “gay lifestyle” are common, along with citations of passages in the Bible that seem to advocate death for gays (interestingly these same preachers rarely mention other passages about stoning adulterers). The position of the Southern Baptist Convention on women’s rights, when stripped of its rhetorical cover, amounts to this: a wife is to her husband as the husband is to God. Some fundamentalists preachers carry their opposition to abortion to the point of explicitly equating doctors who perform this legal procedure (which of course is not mentioned at all in the Bible) to murderers, and have tacitly or overtly condoned violence against abortion clinics and all those associated with them.
And so on.
And yet many liberal Democrats chose to sit in those fundamentalist pews every week and listen to those sometimes hateful sermons. They do so for many reasons. Because these churches do much good within their communities, for example. Because liberals choose to hear the sermons of Christian love and peace and charity and let the hate go, as an un-Christian relic that hopefully their churches will one day outgrow. Because with the good works and the positive parts of the Christian fundamentalist message, the churches provide a meeting place and rallying point to organize for positive change. Because in communities that are often poor, oppressed, and hopeless they provide hope and inspiration for both the individual worshipper and the community.
People do not abandon the fixed points that define their faith, their community and their family, even when there are things not to love, as long as the good of solidarity outweighs disagreements.
Obama, unlike many, did not have Christianity handed to him by his family and upbringing. He had to find it, and Rev. Wright was one of those instrumental in his becoming a Christian. If you believe in the transcendent value of salvation through Christ, would you ever abandon those who brought you to that priceless gift? I think the answer is obvious to anyone who actually takes Christianity, rather than scoring political points, seriously.

You all will get tired of being angry at what you perceive as being wrong.
You all want everyone to believe that Obama is a bad person because of his association with those who you claim are recist and unchristian.
I like to ask if Obama has a any friend who qualifies as patriotic American.
Your argument cuts into the very quality you need to select the next president, which is the ability to unite for solution to a common problem.
If you start now to reject everyone you perceive as a bad person, based at best on rumours, how can you bank on having that person at the table for solution to our problem? Think about it?

Rabbi you are a smart person. not sure if youre male of female. but i like youre post and comment

Obama (aka Soetoro) is full of promise and empty of details. How would anyone vote for a person with such little substance?

Stalight, in America your race is determined by which ethnic group you most closely resemble. Let Obama drive through the wrong city at any given time and get pulled over by police, then you’re understand why Obama is INDEED a BLACK MAN. Regardless of his having a white mother. Obama LOOKS black physically, and that is what determines which race he belongs to. That “one drop rule” still unofficially exist in America.

So that means Obama lied when he said he had not heard any of Wright’s controversial sermons. That’s at least strike four or five. He should be out by now.

In the Pennsylvania and Ohio primaries, Obama lost older whites by 30 percentage points, while Clinton split white voters under age 30 in both critical contests. Obama’s senior problem is even greater among Hispanics. The Illinois senator lost older Latinos by 40 to 60 percentage points in Texas, New Mexico and California.
What’s happening here and what will happen in the general election?

It seems like a big fat joke, Obama Barry saying he is for change! Hell the politicians would run for the hills and drag Barry out of sight if they thought for one minute HE COULD change anything, HE CAN”T!!

I guess we are not ready for this black candidate to be president. Maybe someone like Powell or Clayburn, a seasoned politico, not this one. Barack is unvetted and inexperienced we can not take the chance, things are way to serious in the world to bring in a newbie for on the job training.

to those who try posting Clinton’s long list of legislative accomplishments…
Obama has a very long list and for the years they have served his crushes hers…
the fact is Hillary’s accomplishments are not of huge substance… name large important Bills or movement that she has headed (not just put her name on ) aand gotten all the way through to approval…
for 6 years of fighting and being the front runner for the past 4 years for the Presidential nomination she’s gotten comapratively nothing done.
Nothing she has done was a challenge that she succeeded at…and any committee she sat on was tactical for her own career advancement.
Show me something substantive…anyone can try and put up long lists of names being on Bills (Obama has more than she does in his overall legislative career by 4 to 1 when yuo don’t separate out state and national)
so I would love for someone again to tell me her accompishments not just cut and paste.

Wish Obama would make up his mind or get his lies straight. Initially, he said he hadn’t been there for the sermons where Wright was unhinged. Now he says he was. It getting to be one can’t tell which Democrat is the biggest liar…Obama or Hillary.

Listening to Wright at this moment giving a speech for the NAACP, is exactly as he says, (Divisive)many people I am sure will understand much of what he speaks, because they were not versed in this cultural, anthropological view. What he seems to be doing is making excuses for the failures of many minorities, especially because we have not learned in the same way as the Anglo American’s in this country. HE has continued to expand this divide and express how different we are. He continues to make the racial divide by continuing to speak and express how different people are. He should be more positive instead of making sarcastic remarks to express his views. OH, my goodness he has shown the world he is a very educated person. But, Wright seems to scolding and and really seems to be embarrassing himself. He is all over the place with his point of view. This is not helping B.O.bama, He continues to express his hatered towards (White America) He express Anger,frustration) and surely does not espouse LOVE< as a pastor should. Poor OBAMA, he will not be able to live these views down, this election is going to be racial and Wright continues to live in the 60's he is giving us all a tongue lashing.

Obama does NOT have a chance against McCain. I will vote for Hillary before I would EVER vote for Obama. And yes, we should threaten to “obliterate” Iran if they attack Israel. Iran is who we should have gone after in the first place, NOT Iraq.

There is nothing more to talk about. Obama has been going to a church for 20 years where the leader is a Black Racist. People are ignorant if they think that this was the first and only time that Obama has heard such negativity and hate from the man who married him and his wife and baptized his children. Wright is nothing more than a Black Klansman.

It’s embarassing that out of 300 million Americans, these 3 jerks are the best that we can come up with. Out of ALL the smart people, we have these 3 to pick from. Shame.

I didn’t know blacks use their brain at all!

David, that’s a no brainer!

@dl:
You don’t distinguish between legilative accomplishments at the state level and legistlative accomplishemnts at the national level?
I do.
Just as I think leg. accomp at the state level are more impressive than leg. accomplishments on the school board or those of a class high school president, or in the PTA.
Different levels of gov’t raise new hurdles to getting things done. The higher the level the more difficult. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
H. Clinton’s career is much more impressive than B. Obama’s.

How can Obama seek the highest office in a land that is cursed his friend and spiritual advisor? More important how can anyone vote for him? My grandfather told me long ago that a man is known by the company he keeps. I cursed Rudy Giuliani for standing by his friend and priest who is a known child molester. Only scum would tolerate that kind of scum. While I don’t consider Wright’s actions to be quite that bad, they are bad enough. Obama knew what that his friend hates America and that he is a racist. How can he tolerate that? Wright influenced the Obamas enough that Ms Obama stated that she had never been proud of the United States. Senator Obama’s actions have also brought his patriotism into question. Some of you seem content to vote for him anyway. I find that to be very disturbing.

“I smoked…er…listened but I didn’t actually inhale…er…hear.”
You are as normal a politician as there is these days, Obama. Change. Sure.

@all the commentators who insist that race is a biological category.
It isn’t
Race is socially constructed. Different societies assign different meanings to certain external features (skin color, hair color, nose size) and DECIDE that based on these features someone belongs to one or another socially constructed group.
We could just as easily decide to create a “RACE” based the category of “shortness”, or the category of “left-handedness”. We just haven’t.
As to Ashkenazi Jews: geneticists have identified genetic variations with high frequencies among Ashkenazi Jews. This is true for patrilineal markers (Y-chromosome haplotypes) as well as for matrilineal markers (mitochondrial haplotypes).
But this same genetic variation is not uncommon among the JAPANESE. Does that mean the Japanese belong to the Jewish “Race”?
More to the point, what about Jews who do not have this genetic variation(Sephardim, Ethiopian, or Ashkenazim without the variation). Are they now excluded from the Jewish “Race”?

Now, has John McCain been asked to leave his wife because her father has a connection to the murder of a journalist? Haven’t heard a peep on that one.

Re: Gwen Ifil’s comments on race.
She said (quoting the post from Kravitz): we are…looking for ways…to talk about race in the campaign. But what the…the exit polls have shown us in the last week is that what we don’t want to talk about is racism, which is, I think, a real issue. The people who said…that race mattered to them, a lot of them voted for Hillary Clinton. I’m not calling the voters racists, but I think, at some point, we have to get back to a word that we’re very scared of using in our society, which is the reason why people vote against someone because of their race is not a positive reason, it’s a negative, and racism is a negative quality.
Here’s my question:
Why is it “Racism” to vote against someone because of their race, but it is not “Racism” to vote FOR someone because of their race.
Clearly, the polls also show that many people, particulary many in the African-American community are voting FOR Obama precisely because he is black.
I’m a little simple-minded, but that looks like racism to me.

In Bill Moyer’s interview with Wright this past Friday, Wright more than distinguished himself as a man of courage and purpose. A beautiful full dimensional person. Not the caricature that is being portrayed.
Too bad the campaign commentary of the media have keep up only one view of Wright that now seems to be the ‘accepted truth’.
I was very disappointed in Stephanopolis’ discussion of Wright this Sunday.

I am wondering a little bit about Reverend Wright’s right brain theory, and whether it applies equally to right handed people and to left handed people, and what might happen when a left brained person of one race marries a right brained person of another race, and whether their children will be partially right brained and partially left brained, or whether the right brain is the dominant brain that will fill the whole cranial cavity, no matter how many left brained ancestors might be there trying to elbow their way inside.

This race should not be about race! Why all of a sudden now that Obama is losing is it all about the color of someone’s skin. It is not okay for Rev. Wright to say “Hillary ain’t never been called a N*ger”. It is not okay for Obama to call someone a “Typical white person”. This message is appalling. IT IS NOT OKAY TO BE RACIST NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE!

I had a very negative expectation about what Reverand Wright was all about. I watched his speach at the NAACP. He is brilliant!
That doesn’t change my view about Barack Obama. I work in the Sales & Marketing Industry and can see through everything he says or does. It is the frustration of people that understand the power of “branding” (Nike: “Just Do It”)and the manipulation of sales that just want to shake the Obama Supporters and wake them up.

Just thinking, if the Wrights use the left brain,, right brain theory of learning, I wonder what side of the brain he, his wife Obama and his wife used to succeed while going to school. Did he make a comment on how they learned? I see that they succeeded extreemly well in the USA. school system, does he expect less from the majority of black children in this country. Does he not expect, that many African Americans will not be able to succeed in this society? Obama is going to have a mountain of questions regarding his mentors world views.

different is not deficient!

Obama is responsible for the people he chooses to associate with and support financially.
For 20+ years, Obama and his family have sat clapping in the pews of this vile, racist, Anti-American clown’s church.
Anyone who was a “uniter,” as Obama claims he is, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who wasn’t racist, as Obama claims he isn’t, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good judgment, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone who loved America, as Obama purports, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
Anyone with good moral character, as Obama claims he has, would have walked out of that church decades ago.
OF COURSE Obama knew about the hate monger Wright. He has had a close relationship with the guy for nearly 25 years. Obama enjoyed Wright’s rhetoric and agreed with him — otherwise he would have left the church decades ago.
Obama is con man.

I do not believe many of you are being honest. You say that you would bolt out of the door of a church the first time your pastor said something controversial, but that’s not true. Many beliefs that Christians have are considered controversial. If your pastor always plays it safe and never thinks out of the box, then you are lucky to have him. Some of us actually want a pastor who is passionate and says what he believes, even if we do not agree with everything he says. Many of you haven’t even heard the sermons. You’re basing your judgements on a few sound bites. A few sound bites taken out of context could make just about anyone look bad. I will give him credit for one thing. At least he’s bold enough to say what he thinks as opposed to those of you who pretend that you would bolt out of the door if your pastor said something racist, even though deep down you know you have heard racist comments from people and not said a word. You are being self-righteous to say you would have left when you have no way of knowing if you actually would have. For Obama to bolt out of a church just because of a few sound bites and ignore all of the good that was taking place is ridiculous. Many of you are so happy that you found something on Obama’s pastor, you could care less about him and his policies. You need an excuse to vote against him and now you have one. Guilt by association to his pastor. Good for John McCain and Hillary Clinton that they don’t have to answer for any of their associations. Nope, only Obama is fortunate enough to have to pass that threshold. I wonder why?

Obama will say just about anything to make Rev. Wright seem okay and to minimize the association. But do not be fooled nor let this issue die – there is nothing more fundamental to America than having a President who surrounds himself and associates with only people who want God to Bless America, who are proud of our country, even with all its faults, who would never stand for the kind of accusations made by Wright. If you elect Obama count on Wright be right there leading prayer in the White House.

I am upset on how the media treated Rev. Wright. Those few second sound bites had me thinking that this man was a monster. After hearing him on CNN, it hurts me to know that racism is so prevalent. I hope this country can get beyond this.

African American leaders like Reverend Wright are absolutely terrified of Barack Obama becoming the next President. Why?! Because if Obama unifies the Nation, heals racial division, and reduces racial discrimination in both directions, racists like Reverend Wright will be out of a job. For too long have bigots like him been feeding off the black community. It is time for the black community to rise up against these leeches and say in a loud voice “No longer are we going to perceive ourselves as the disadvantaged. We are part of America and we can control our own destiny. We are not diminished and we will say to the World – yes we can!”