Obama Explains Why Some Small Town Pennsylvanians Are “Bitter”

Please spread this to every “small town” in America. What kind of wine were Obama and his left wing elitist bundlers drinking when they were bashing real Americans?

They are bitter
“Because Senator Obama left them down”
When he should of been fighting for America he was putting his hand up and saying “Present”.
Refusing to take a stand,
refusing to get involved,
refusing to work for the people.
Taking a pay check and laughing.
Now obama to take the blame out of his corner, He Does his Dance of Blame, He does that constantly and about everything.
He points the finger of Blame. He screams the loudest, the longest and the hardest to cast blame, Those are the ones who are the Guiltiest.

Pay attention small towners in PA, WVA, IN, KY, etc.
Hey small town Iowans -don’t you feel foolish now? used, abused, and lied to by this phony who looks down at people like us.

The problem is Dean, Pelosi, and the others agree with that statement.

geevill
Dean, Pelosi et al are a part of the takeover of the democratic by radicals who want complete control over everyone’s lives. Give them that control at our own peril!

See – Obama is the REAL politician and leader, who does not say what people LIKE to hear but who will tell you HOW THINGS ARE today. This is fine example, IMO.
He’s totally right and what he is saying is true for many more communities throughout the US. Many Americans will recognize the description.
Is it dismissive? On the contrary! Obama says that “it’s not surprising” that people who are being let down time and again will feel and think this way. People seek scapegoats when things are bad and don’t get better. They’ve done so as long as humanity exists.
So don’t blame the messenger here. Obama has met with a lot of folks, heard a lot their stories, listened to their frustations and anger. He expresses sympathy, by saying “it’s not surprising”, more than anythings else – and of course he’s worried as well. Again, as in his PA speech, one senses the real judeo-christian conscience at work here. He’s dedicated to these people’s problems and yes he’s truly worried, as a REAL politician who LISTENS to the people, should be.
Those who would interpret these words of his as “dismissing people” can only be the conservatives who do not care about real people’s difficulties in this country and who therefore will always reject any serious proposal for CHANGE in the USA.

morningside, Bill and Hill were making 109 million when others have lost their jobs and knowing nothing else to do for 25 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Obama: Not cool….
Hillary Clinton: VERY COOL!!!

Absolutely he’s dismissing them and blaming the Clinton Administration at the same time. Also seems like he’s playing a bit of the race card again – “antipathy to people who aren’t like them”.

That is actually the truth. It doesn’t matter if you are in america or europe.. people are the same.
Low employment = lower intolerance of others ( not everyone is going to react this way..but many will)
If unemployment rates go up people blame the mexicans and other foreigners..
He isn’t saying anything bad, but we need to get beyond out fears.

The audacity of Obama to sum up small towns in PA with:
“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”"
OK, after Obama has visited small towns in PA he concludes the people are “bitter,” “gun loving,” “religious dependents,” and “anti-immigrant.”
Another view and more HOPEFUL view is that these same people are resilient, hard-working, sports loving, honest, and fair-minded.
All in the eye of the beholder. I don’t like Obama’s VISION. He did a great disservice to these people.

Sounds like his church not a small American town.
What a packed statement. He attacks both Bushs and Bill Clinton, guns, religion, Main street America (“white” people), accuses people of being racists, on and on.

Since he is supposed to be anti-NAFTA, doesn’t he consider himself to be one of these “bitter” folks?
“….or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
How condescending! Some people like guns, some people are religious… but to lump them with racists and xenophobes – very unfair!

Just one more reason why Obama will lose the PA primary by double digits. Go Hillary!

With misconceptions and bias like that toward working class americans no wonder he has to hire white people to sit behind him in PA: This is what Obama and his supporters think of working class people that they are somehow too uneducated and have been fooled by politicians and thus are bitter! This is the same attitude that Samantha Powers spoused when she tried to explain why he lost Ohio! Well maybe working class people are smart enought to tell a phony politician when they see one and thats why he can’t get their votes. Maybe working class people are furstrated by politicians who have gotten above their rasin’ and think they know it all! Welcome to the real world Mr. Obama!

countallthevotes,
do not forget above all PATRIOTIC.

I love this. Finally a politician tries to galvanize the working class to have them stand up for their interests and not these silly platitudes (“gun rights”, anti-immigration sentiment, religiosity, etc..) and you brilliant crucify him for doing this . AWESOME!

Jo
Amazingly, Obama’s wife would not have received her nice education had it not been for affirmative action. She did not otherwise have the grades to get into school.
No wonder she’s not proud to be an American.

SmartPrimate,
Isn’t that similar to the quality of the “analysis” that is derived over at the Daily Kos?
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Obama, the candidate for the wealthy elite on the left?
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geevill.
Thanks and very patriotic!! I have visited small towns in western PA. I have spent time in Pittsburgh. Loved the experience; loved the people. Lots of energy!!!!

Hey, I am not a racist in any manner. It seems some of you hang on to every word and try to twist it to produce a scandal.
I don’t think hispanics or indians are lower class either..

Here are some CLUEs for you.
1) Won’t wear a flag pin
2) won’t honor the National Anthem
3) Never proud to be American until someone votes for a black person
4)20 years in a G-D America spewing church
The words fit the actions.

Talk about bitter and frustrated just listen to his Wife and Wright and you will see what real frustration is all about! Deal with your wife and church then psychoanalyze working class people!

“antipathy to people who aren’t like them..” Obama is a serial racialphobe!!

WCMgr… I never go there. I’ll have to stop by and see it. Your comment reminds me of Leornard Bernstien and his liberal chic fundrasers for the Black Panthers… what an interesting visual.
Lunch break over… later!

As a voter from a small blue collar state (WV) I have to got to say Obama is right. His only problem is trying to explain to people how things work. And everyone makes hay out of it.
I don’t see one attack on anyone. Unless you’re a PC Dem who likes to put everyone into quaint interest groups.
Or unless you think that people who aren’t as sure on the benefits of uncontrolled immigration or do like hunting are somehow for bad people.
What he is doing is explaining why, try as we might, rural America is slowly drifting away. We can’t get ahead in this economy. Where was the tech boom in WV during the ’90s?
You’re being foolish if you’re sitting in your suburban house or city apartment telling small town people take note. I know I am. Finally there is someone who is willing to be frank about why things are the way they are.
You won’t get that from Clinton. To her we’re just another quaint interest group to make unfulfilled promises to.

On Michelle Obama, have you noticed every time she speaks she complains about paying off her student loans?? She complains to anyone who will listen. Man, that is getting so old. Perhaps Barack got student loans to finance his undergraduate travels to from CA to Indonesia, then on to Pakistan and then another 1,000 miles to India and then of course back to CA and then the NYC. —————–
Obama’s mother worked in Pakistan and Indonesia in micro finance. She took her kids all over the place with her. That isn’t anything surprising. 16 year old kids in europe have been traveling all over the world also. They aren’t terrorist or anything. It is good to see the world.

FYI:
Both Obamas graduated from Harvard Law School. Harvard Law School picks up the student loan payments for any graduate doing public service. Barack Obama certainly qualified for that.
Here is the formula used:
$31,000 or less ———————- $0
$31,001 – $36,000 —————— $0 + 20% of amount over $31,000
$36,001 – $41,000 —————— $1000 + 40% of amount over $36,000
$41,001 – $52,000 —————— $3000 + 50% of amount over $41,000
$52,001 – $72,000 —————— $8500 + 60% of amount over $52,000
Not sure how this chart will post but it covers not just direct legal services but any public service that is law related.
Trust me, Obama had most of his loans paid by Harvard.

Ed S,
Again, we’d like to thank you and all the Obama supporters for helping clarify things for us slow, country folk. We in small-town America need someone from Harvard to grab us by our necks and lead us out of our poverty. We’ll be glad to leave our guns behind once we can get on the till.
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Obama, go ahead, treat me like a puppy!
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Obama’s arrogance, ignorance, and elitism is so outrageous and condescending. He is so out of touch with reality — he and his wife. This man is a socialist. It’s that simple. Definitely a dangerous candidate for the presidency.

get a clue,
The point I am making is that both Obamas like to paint their young lives as struggling, like any other working class kid. They share nothing of the struggles that working class kids have experienced. Whether or not they came from “modest” families, they led the lives usually enjoyed by the most elite families in this country.

WestCoastMessenger
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I am an open person, I have travel experiences in 13 countries and my boyfriend has been to 36 or more countries.I totally understand Obama’s mother and her ideas about the world.I would like my future children to travel the world too. People need to understand the world is larger than their city or country.
It is time for a real change in the world. My feeling is that Obama is the best candidate for real change in the US and world.

Frankly, Obama is not qualified to be
a US Senator. :(

Russell,
Well said! You’ve said it better than any pundit, politician, or press.
You get my vote.
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Hillary/Russell ’08
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Hey, Ed,
Obama didn’t just insult “one small group.” Here are some of the groups he insulted, belittled, condescended to and utterly misunderstood: gun owners, religious people, people in small towns, blue collar workers, to name a few. This is not a “small demographic group.” This is a majority of Americans.
For the record: I am not religious because I am bitter. I do not own a gun because I am “afraid of people different than me,” except insofar as they are criminals; and I am not disgusted with the economic system in this country because Bill Clinton and George Bush screwed up.
Small town economies are screwed up because they’re almost always run by Democrats — environmentalists, who kill energy and construction jobs; educrats, who ensure that education will be expensive and worthless; and politicians like Obama, who promise to fix the economy while killing free trade! It’s not the people in small towns who are the problem — It’s people like HIM who are the problem.
On the other hand, I am very bitter about one thing. I’m bitter than a man who attended a church for 20 years where the minister and congregants excoriated people of my race as “white devils” while pretending to be Christians is now standing around drinking wine on billionaire’s row in San Francisco talking about the small-minded denizens of small town America who just don’t like people who are different than they are. The hypocrisy is suffocating.

You think that working class kids can’t travel the world??? They do it all the time. Michelle and Obama had some struggles in their early childhood.
You need to read his mothers story in time.

nice work Obama. In a few word he reduces the working class to a bunch of hateful, gun toting, religious freaks and then blames Clinton and Bush for their turning out *this* way —- suggesting an, “I get you, I feel you. I know what it’s like. and I’m different” sentiment.

Jess,
How about if we elect him as parent-in-chief instead, since he can tell me how many whacks to give my kid. That’s really the kind of stuff I want the government to be doing.
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Obama says turn off the TV when his $2.2 million in ads per week come on in Pennsylvania
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I did read the Time article about Obama’s mother. She was as conflicted as Obama, himself. His grandparents filled the void. His grandmother was a bank VP in Hawaii and I think the first woman to fill that role. I am not saying these were rich people, but they were far from poor. I would not call them working class at all. I submit Obama did have early deprivations, but those had nothing to do with finances. They had everything to do with his biological parents.

Get a Clue,
How about if I read his mother’s story at bedtime, right after I’ve turned off the TV right as Obama’s ad came on.
Bubba2,
Funnty stuff.
Brooke,
Well said.
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Obama, the amazing guy!
Managed to lose votes all the way over in Pennsylvania by making comments in San Francisco!
He’s absolutely Obamdescending!
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It’s final exam time for the Clinton campaign. Lets see what they do with this. If they do not do enough there will be plenty of good small town gravy left over for the McCain campaign

It drives me crazy when I hear reporters use terms such as the “heartland,” (when did Arkansas become the Heartland? That was on “GMA” the other day), or “small-town.” It is so very dismissive. It seems like somehow people who live in such places — even if you’re 40 miles from Chicago, as I am — are … quaint. We God-fearing people are somehow a different breed from you city folk. We’re positive rubes. And guess what? We know very well when we’re being patronized. And Obama is patronizing the people he’s talking about.
These remarks of his will bit him in the butt. And they should. Good grief.

Get a Clue,
That’s what I said. Reverend Wright can’t be rascist, Obama looks up to him. You said Obama could not be rascist because he has kinfolks of various ethnicities. I simply matched a non sequiter with a non sequiter. Makes sense, no?
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Obama, the salvation for the slow, country folk!
Obama, a pork rind in every pot (at least for Bubba2)

get a clue posted:
“You think that working class kids can’t travel the world??? They do it all the time.”
Not like Barack Obama, let’s see what would the airfare be from CA to Indonesia and then on to Pakistan and then on to India and then back to Ca and then on to NYC?? Count up the many thousands of miles to remote areas and figure out what that airfare would have been. It would have been staggering, even then! That was the summer between Occidental and Columbia when most of the working class kids were busing tables to pay for tuition.
He and his wife do not have a clue about the working class poor.

This is what every agent of social change has stumbled upon:
blame the messenger!
Obama, I like you better every day.
Hit the truth, and hit it hard.

ajmalkov,
If you are asking me if I was kidding, the answer is yes. If you were asking “get a clue”, the answer would be no.
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Obama, the elite candidate from Harvard that us slow, country folk have been waiting for!
Obama, help us give up our misguided desire to go hunting and fishing, we’re hungry because Bill Clinton or George Bush forgot to give us a job!
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Greg,
You’ve got to be kidding!! “Obama doesn’t care about political correctness.” Maybe he doesn’t. But to call what he said “courage???” If most of us showed this kind of “courage” we would be called racist, reactionary, stupid, right-wing fanatics and on and on and on!

Aston: Obama’s word change was stolen from Hillary when she first started to campaign and his word hope came from the speech of RFK. I read some of that speech on the internet. Obama kept company with people like Ayres, Ayers, Farrakhan and went to a racist church with a racist pastor. I believe the white people are being taken for a one way ride because Obama does not like whites. He uses them for his own advantage and they like a fool cannot see what he is doing. I was surprised that MN, WI and Sc white people gave him the votes. Thank goodness for NY,NJ,TN,NV,NH,NM,MA and more. They saw the handwriting on the wall and did not give him the win. I will also go on record to say, Chris Matthews and Shuster are very pro Obama and critize Hillary all the time. The media should not promote any candidate. They are there to spread the news only. And is Obama paying people on the street to vote for him.

Wow. What a moronic statement.
McCain should send him a thank you note for this free campaign commercial.

There is a HUGE risk in treating News as FAST FOOD.
If you really want to have the full picture, read the full story. The quote referred to here does not sound as bad as suggested here if you read the full article by FOWLY (as I just did).
I know the whole point of this blog is to put news in light that is bit antagonistic in order to stir discussion. But on many occasions it has been misleading.

Good grief. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
Hillary is giggling with glee at this misstep.

Julie:
I just read the Rezko article on the link you provided. Thanks, I see the link has been removed now. LOL
Intersting, the new owner is John Poulos. I think this is the guy:
“John Poulos, vice president of sales for the National Restaurant Association Educational Foundation (NRAEF) in Chicago.”
Interesting to note that when Rezko “sold” the 10-ft strip of land from the adjoining lot to the Obamas, that then rendered their lot worthless for anyone who wanted to build a home because the lot was not big enough. It has everything to do with very strict zoning in that particular location. While the lot market price certainly went up after Obama’s candidacy, a lot you cannot build on is not worth very much. Then again, that is Chicago, I am sure they can find some politician to pay off and have the zoning changed.

The nerve Obama has. Gosh, Obama…couldnt it be that some dont vote for you simply because they find the female senator Clinton a better candidate. Couldnt it just be so? Why does Obama think he is the salvation of all social dysfunctiions. This guy has an ego..WOH.

How does this work? Mr. Obama is in PA for less than a month and he has already figured out the psyche of working class people, but he spent 20+yrs in his church but he had no idea that Rev Wright held the beleifs that he expoused! When you figure out you church then you can give us your opinion about working class people!

Mak Penn secretly dealing with Colombia.

President Obama.
the republicans stated their attak ysterday with Cheney. We say bring it on.

ken,
“Those who would interpret these words of his as “dismissing people” can only be the conservatives who do not care about real people’s difficulties in this country and who therefore will always reject any serious proposal for CHANGE in the USA.”
So if I think Obama was dismissive, then I must be a conservative and uncaring enemy of change, since how could anyone possibly disagree with you and your hero? You may not get the meaning of “dismissive”, but you sure do it well.

where oh where is Ms Michelle.
we can’t bear her very well,
but are curious as hell
as to where she’s hidden, his Michelle.

Don’t worry America! Obama will take away your guns and religion, so you can cling to the real thing – his vision!

Oh great!Now Barack Obama is a psychiatrist, analyzing the small towns of American. Dr. Obama, could I get a six month supply of Xanx!

Aron Burr: If that is his vision of working class americans the I think he is both blind and biased,not qualaties that we need in a leader!

Eyes Open: Michelle is sending out casting calls for typical white people to sit behind her when she speaks. White People I Need More White People Damit!

Hillary after Iowa dissed Iowa saying it was like running for a mayor the state was so small.
Hillary looked down on Iowa.

Pennsylvanians are as friendly as Iowans– and that’s a huge compliment. (I love you Texas, but you get up on the wrong side of the bed a lot, or at least you did during the weeks before the primaries.) These Pennsylvanians are patriotic. On several occasions, they’ve awarded Barack Obama a standing ovation for his promise to restore the Constitution. Clearly, Quaker Staters feel a connection to the part their state played in the making of the Constitution; they see themselves in America’s larger history.
this is from the original story

Obama for Present!

Obama – in ’08
The GREAT ‘DISS’-UNITER!!!!!!

In the midst of this harsh pastoral, Pennsylvanians are scrappy survivors. They complain (particularly about their governor and Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell, who doesn’t seem as popular as the media make him out to be),=
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In the midst of this harsh pastoral, Pennsylvanians are scrappy survivors. They complain (particularly about their governor and Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell, who doesn’t seem as popular as the media make him out to be),

In the midst of this harsh pastoral, Pennsylvanians are scrappy survivors. They complain (particularly about their governor and Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell, who doesn’t seem as popular as the media make him out to be), but they endure. They refuse to be bound to the broken temples of commerce and manufacturing, the vacant Beaux Arts hotels, the rotting nineteenth-century row houses, the abandoned sidings and once-grand railway stations that inscribe Scranton and Wilkes-Barre and diminish Pittsburgh and Lancaster. Pennsylvanians are remarkably chipper. In the end, the material world that once gave them prosperity has not defined them. On the contrary, Pennsylvania unfolds in an interlocking chain of Turkeyfoots and Allentowns, held separately and together by a sense of shared community, of humor, of history, and of abiding faith.

I grew up and lived in small towns until moving to Chicago as an adult. Yes, small towners are dependent on theirs and adjacent towns for a living. When businesses, industry, etc. close down, leaving a skeleton town behind, then the residents have to resort to state and federal aid to live. Obama is correct in what he said. And it is okay to say it, because the folks there will agree with him. Since no government cares to help them, these little towns just dry up and the people die poor and alone.

Hillary is already pouncing on the comments by Obama saying, “I have travelled around PA. I didn’t see any bitterness. All I saw is a resilient people.”
How hypocritical is that. It could be that the people is PA are resilient. In fact, I have no doubt that they are. But if you haven’t seen good paying job for a quarter of a century, it is difficult not to be depressed or even bitter.
I think the behavior of the press encourages the politicians to becoming hypocritical for fear of being misquoted or chastised as is happening now.

These qualities of hospitality, patriotism and endurance are exactly what Californians need to hear about Pennsylvanians. And when he spoke to a group of his wealthier Golden State backers at a San Francisco fund-raiser last Sunday, Barack Obama took a shot at explaining the yawning cultural gap that separates a Turkeyfoot from a Marin County. “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not

All I hear Obama do is blame others; this man is weak and certainly not Prez materiel.

To give Obama his due, he spoke about working class Pennsylvanians likely because he had been thinking about them a great deal. And he spoke, as he often does away from large rallies, in a calm, even, matter-of-fact way. Every town hall meeting I’ve observed, from California to Iowa, Nevada to Texas, has showcased Senator Obama’s core decency and high measure of regard for each individual.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID ABOUT HIM. HE IS A GOOD GUY IN HIS HEART, NOT COLD AND CALCULATING MONEY AND POWER MONGERIN

Obama an arrogant jerk? Is this really a surprise? I mean come on…whats really interesting is how much more he will alienate the rest of his home state by saying things like this. Pretty sure that outside of Chicago they don’t like him, simply for being the snooty educated know-it all that he tries to be. That’s okay though, because to be fair I think his supporters, educated or not, are less realistic and intelligent then those hard working people in small towns.

OBAMA: DIRTY POLITICIAN FROM THE START: Chicago Sun-Times—A close examination of Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer’s hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. “He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?” said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his “guru of petitions.” Davis filed objections to all four of Obama’s Democratic rivals at the candidate’s behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama’s challenges. He then went on to win the election.

I am wondering what kind of change Obama is going to bring? He never explains it…Could be he hates white America so much, that that is part of the change??

OBAMA LIES IN PENNSYLVANIA AD
From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
GREENBURG, Pa. — The Clinton campaign today accused the Obama campaign of “false advertising,” claiming that a recent ad Obama released in Pennsylvania was disngenous because Obama has been the recipient of more than $200,000 from the oil and gas industry.
In the ad, Obama says, “I’m Barack Obama, and I don’t take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won’t let them block change any more.”
Obama has taken $213,884 from the oil and gas industry as of Feb. 29th, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Sen. Hillary Clinton has taken $306,813 in that same period.
Two of Obama’s campaign bundlers are also CEOs for oil and gas companies, per a list released on his campaign Web site.
Robert Cavnar, listed as a bundler who has raised between $50,000 to $100,000 for the campaign, is the chairman and CEO of Mission Resources Corp., a Houston-based firm. George Kaiser, also listed in the same $50,000 to $100,000 category, is the CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Company.

mims NJ,
On 4/22, poeple from Penn will decide who they can trust to lift them up them…So keep your anger until then..

MIMS
Nicely said and believe millions agree with you.
They are worried ( with good reason ) that she will sell out our jobs. She has ..Tata Consultancy service…they brought 10 whole big jobs to buffalo..geez thanks Hill. How many Jobs did it cost us?? they are allowed to bring workers in from the Country of India. was that a good sell out?

WOW!
Um I dont think Obama can win Pennsylvania in NOV.
Staggering. This is why you don’t nominate a first term rookie senator for your Presidential candidate.

SPEAKING OF LYING: How about these non-trivial lies from Obama: his continual reference to his “Christian” faith (which is really black liberation theology); his lies and omissions about his connection to a racist and anti-American “mentor and spiritual adviser” (remember when he said that there was nothing controversial about his church?); his “alleged” continual opposition to the Iraq war (which was debunked by Bill Clinton, which debunking earned Bill a “race card”); his lie in the current Pennsylvania primary ad that states he doesn’t take any contributions from the oil companies; his denial regarding playing the race card on other occasions (for which he was busted by Tim Russert in the debates); his denial that any meeting took place between his chief economic adviser and the Canadian official (for which he was busted by the memo); his constantly changing testimony about his relationship with and monetary support from Rezko (was it $60,000, $160,000 or what he admits to now, $250,000); his lie during the debate about a pharmaceutical lobbyist’s involvement in his campaign; his lie during the debate about his policies towards Pakistan; his lie in the debate about Yucca Mountain and nuclear energy; his lie in the debate about his former support for a single-pay health plan. One more thing — would ANY Obama supporter like to come forward and admit that Obama has on ANY occasion misled the American public? This I would like to see.

I have a thought and would appreciate some feedback from all of you.
Why is Hillary up so late at night (3 A.M.) all of the time? Doesn’t she realize that sleep deprivation can have devastating effects on the human body? It can even lead some to believe that they’ve done or said things that have never happened!
Is it possible that she’s gotten so used to waiting up at night for Bill to come home (1992-2000) and then confront him with:
“Allright… Now where the *HELL* have you been???”, that she can no longer sleep normal hours?
My advice for the good lady would be: Get some sleep!

Hillary senior advisor Harold Ickes voted to strip Florida and Michagan
of their delegates.
Why would she keep him on? why did she kep Mar Penn?
what do thy have on her????
Paul B. can not understand why she did not out right fire MARK PENN.

Lauren,
Are you debating who is worse among LIARS? How do you think a LIAR will be qualified for US president?

Nice
Obama claims to be a good practicing christian (in a black radical church) but calls other christians (in white small towns) stupid and weak.
How can anybody support this man?
Simple logical people with even a modest IQ should have him disqualified immediately.

“In Wilkes-Barre a few days later, Obama fielded a similar comment from a man who said, “I believe that this nation now has dangerously low levels of patriotism and national pride…. My question to you is How are we going to reestablish America’s reputation to Americans?”
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My question to Senator Obama: how are you going to re-establish Chicago’s political reputation to Americans???

Obama your inexperience keeps showing. The same small town Americans you are calling bitter that cling to religions and guns are the same voters you shouldn’t be insulting cause they make up a large part of America. I can smell Obama’s arrogance all the way here. Obama lies, deceive the voters’ and has no experience whatsoever. The presidency is not something u learn on the job. One have to be a leader not a follower like Obama. PA reject his arrogance and his insults, Vote for Hillary.

Should we be surprised? It’s pure B.O.

Here’s Hillary’s response:
“”Well, that’s not my experience,” she continued. “As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive, who are rolling up their sleeves. They’re working hard every day for a better future for themseves and their children.”
I don’t believe her.
Posted by: ken | Apr 11, 2008 6:00:38 PM
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Ken, I can assure you that here in PA we happen to think that Senator Clinton got this one right. And yes, we do resent Senator Obama’s condescending, elitist, arrogant attitude toward us. He’s quite off the mark on this one and it will cost him in PA, if the mainstream media doesn’t manage to just bury it like they always do any other boneheaded errors in judgement this guy makes. The guy is totally out of touch with us “typical white people” out here in small town USA. Face it, it was a surprisingly stupid thing for him to say seeing as he supposed to be so darned intelligent.

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it’s fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre…they’re misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to ‘white working-class don’t wanna work — don’t wanna vote for the black guy.’ That’s…there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today – kind of implies that it’s sort of a race thing.
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.
But — so the questions you’re most likely to get about me, ‘Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?’ What they wanna hear is so we’ll give you talking points about what we’re proposing — to close tax loopholes, uh you know uh roll back the tax cuts for the top 1%, Obama’s gonna give tax breaks to uh middle-class folks and we’re gonna provide healthcare for every American.
But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background — there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.

The comments are on tape and has already played on CNN,`courtesy of the woman who recorded it – Mayhill Fowler of the Huffington Post. Naturally, Roland Martin is trying to “clarify” what the Great Wordsmith meant and saying if he was Obama he wouldn’t apologize. GREAT ADVICE! lol! BTW, CNN is currently doing a poll on Obama’s attitude – get your vote in now…
ATTITUDE CHECK POLL FOR OBAMA ON CNN ONLINE!
Rise, Hillary, Rise! ’08

4/11/08
At this point in time, all the in-fighting among Democrats is doing is making John McCain more and more electable.
McCain is now up by 123 electoral votes against Obama.
* Barack Obama – 203
* John McCain – 326
and up 66 electoral votes against Clinton.
* Hillary Clinton – 236
* John McCain – 302

I was supporting Obama, am a lifelong liberal democrat, I live in an urban area and am a woman of color. I am extremely offended by the stereotyping that Senator Obama has shown himself to be guilty of.
First, it’s not anti-immigrant to be angered by illegal aliens who undercut American citizens, who are black, brown and white.. who have civil and human rights considerations. I know many Americans, quite a few of them legal immigrants or the children of legal immigrants who are upset about illegal aliens. When you violate immigration laws, you are NOT an immigrant, you are a foreign national (alien) who is in the US illegally.
He shows himself to be an elitist because he can not seem to grasp that we do not have a worker shortage, we are being displaced in the workplace. Americans can’t pay mortgages and rent when they can’t work or their wages are gutted. I can’t blame people in small towns who are as offended by his disconnect, because I certainly am.
What kind of president would he make when he’s more interested in courting the corporate interests and illegal alien lobby than in educating himself on the realities faced by citizens? It’s as though he is seeking to misrepresent our legitimate concerns.
Even my 24 year old daughter who was a passionate Obama supporter felt struck across the face by his indifference. She saw what happened to her father during the Bush administration, on the job. Far from being an outsider and “community activist” in the traditional sense, Obama himself proved that he’s a huckster for the powers that be.

There’s a pattern here…

It’s sad the democratic party’s system of electing a nominee is so inefficient. The republicans with their “winner takes all” contests had a presumptive nominee well before the fights between McCain and Romney had a chance to grow into the type of controversies that surround the democratic candidates and now they have the benefit of gathering the support of independent voters. McCain will win not because he’s a better candidate but because people want to punish the democrats for some silly remarks they made during the campaign. We’re missing the elephant in the room – the economy, crime, the war, the national debt instead our thirst for drama will get us in even deeper trouble during the next 4 years.

obama and his wife wants a socialist system for this country, where the rich spread their wealth to the poor. Ironically, they didn’t give too much to charity and most of their charity go to trinity united church, where white race is being bashed. They want to tax the rich, who makes $30,000 or more. These couple needs to get out of their chicago south side because $30,000 is like poverty in big city. I made a tiny bit over $30,000 and i am far far far from being rich.

EVERY HARD WORKING America, Every Christian, Every Immigrant, Every gun owner needs to go to the polls on April 22nd and VOTE FOR HILLARY!

The reason those in the small towns are so understandably bitter and angry (although Obama could have done a better job articluating it) is directly related to the passage of NAFTA. BOTH Clintons were fundamental to its passage. Add to that the Columbian Trade ties so intimate with the Clintons and what goes into Bill’s pocketbook – goes into hers..
People can rant over Obama’s poor comments or they can look to the direct source of the cause for so much anguish among the working class which brings us back to the Clintons.

“the truth is simple, white people are not voting for Obama. His following is black.”
Please study the Pennsylvania polls, such as the latest PA Ipsos one. Clinton has small lead, but she is clearly trailing Obama in the support of white men. She’s lucky there’s such a majority of women in the Dem vote.

Obama is telling the truth, however clumsily he said it. You people are getting WAYYY too caught up in his clumsiness and ignoring the truth behind what he says. go ahead, vote for McCain, he doesn’t care about you any more than Bush did. Obama will have solid ideas on how to get back on track and he is listening to all americans.

Great point LeeLee. Obama just doesn’t have it together when it comes to answering questions from the press, so it’s always back to the speeches. Yes, Obama does read a teleprompter better than anyone since Ronald Reagan, but so what. We need someone like Hillary, who can actually speak intelligently without resorting to notes or teleprompters. My wife and I saw her about a week ago in Los Angeles, and it was really refreshing. She took random questions from the audience, and showed a remarkable command of the issues. No stumbling or reaching for words like Obama. Just straight talk about the issues, and the solutions she has developed.

Thanks Fred – The first time I heard Obama speak, I was appalled. Come to think of it, the last time I heard Obama speak, I was appalled. This man is no orator. I am sure he is George Bush’s missing brother, because he speaks just as incoherently as GW! I think Barb and George the First has some ‘splaining to do to the American people. lol :D

@ Lauren
Didn’t you go Hillary an elitist in another thread?
SOUNDS LIKE OBAMA IS THE ELITIST!

This is typical Obama camp sentiment.
Samantha Power said the same thing about Ohioans and NAFTA.

More elitist Obama comments that will hurt him everywhere but at MSNBC.
His supporters are now trying to say that his comments were taken out of context. He has used that defense one too many times. Let us see how it plays out on Meet The Press this weekend or at the next debate.
All the more reason to take a closer look at Obama. And the closer you look the more unelectable he appears. And I see it and I am sure that the super delegates see it as well.

This is bashing? It was in front of middle-class folks- get the facts. I live in Buffalo it the jobs have been gone for decades!
Transcript of Obama’s Remarks at San Francisco Fundraiser SundayOBAMA:
So, it depends on where you are, but I think it’s fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre…they’re misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to ‘white working-class don’t wanna work — don’t wanna vote for the black guy.’ That’s…there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today – kind of implies that it’s sort of a race thing.
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.
But — so the questions you’re most likely to get about me, ‘Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?’ What they wanna hear is so we’ll give you talking points about what we’re proposing — to close tax loopholes, uh you know uh roll back the tax cuts for the top 1%, Obama’s gonna give tax breaks to uh middle-class folks and we’re gonna provide healthcare for every American.
But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background — there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.

For those who say Clinton speaks intelligently, clearly do not speak from their head and rather from their heart everytime he’s asked a tough question she goes on to that irritating laugh like thats an answer,and adds to the lies to cover the first one. Obama is telling people the truth and the truth hurts a lot of times and instead of picking on how something is said why not spend more time on the issues and what he is trying to say.In Pa, there will be a lot of voters that simply wont vote for him because he’s black and nothing else and the man still goes in there spending enormous amounts time money and tries to open peoples mind to other ideas and insight and immediately its picked on like if we were still in grade school. Pityful I just hope that when my kids are old enough to vote this racial bias will be all gone

Wonder why he didn’t make those remarks to the people in Pennsylvania?????? What a hypocrite!
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’ 08

@ Makavelli
No, that remark wasn’t the truth.
He needs to stop talking about the middle class of Pennsylvania like their below his level IF he wants to be President for the middle class.

@ disgusted
Obama should use that during his next STUMP SPEECH!

seah
Bravo. Well said!

S
You can’t answer the question, so you throw something irrelevant out there. Just what I expected.

Mr. America
Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out!

Lauren, get real!
Obama is a cold, calculating sweet talking politician!
To win the election for state senator of Illinois , he made sure that his opponents were handily eliminated… because he knew he’d never win otherwise.
To win the election for the US Senate, Obama played the same dirty game; only the names of the characters were changed in regard to the people “done in”.
This is Not a “made up” story (though it certainly reads like one). Look it up in the Chicago Tribune if you dare…..in fact, you SHOULD!
The election of 2008 is NOT a GAME!
The United States is in the throes of a deep recession.
People cannot afford to pay their mortgages, and thousands of homes are lost every day.
People are losing their jobs and their medical benefits…. and their pride.
Fifty percent of our teen agers are leaving school before they graduate.
We are fighting a war that seems to have no end.
The ideas emanating from Baracka’s mouth when viable… have already been offered by Hillary.
He has generated one of the dirtiest
campaigns I have every seen and is out once again to destroy his competition in any sneaky dirty underhanded way he can..but he’s just the bandleader; the posters and trolls like you do mmost of the heavy lifting.
BUT
Do you really think that this country is stupid enough to vote for a man whose only asset is sweet voice.
Do you really think that the masses of citizens in this country WANT to be led by a chief whose very patriotism is qustionable?
Do you honestly feel that this newby can take on the tremendous burden of woes currently facing our nation… with Michelle at his side and Mr. Wright at his back, and with other, even more questionable characters at his table?
This is not about race, although he would like us to think that it is; we have already had a black president and didn’t even realize it!
But Harding didn’t play the race card.
In any case, it’s your vote to make.
But when you do, be very very careful.
As for me, I’ll take Clinton!
GIVE ‘EM HELL, HILLARY!

“In Pa, there will be a lot of voters that simply wont vote for him because he’s black and nothing else…”
Actually, the real reason we are not voting for him because there is no “there” there.
I am black too, and there is no way I am going to vote for this guy. He is, to put it bluntly, unqualified.
Rise, Hillary, Rise! ’08

no Mr. America, you make me sick by telling better off dead. is that the kind of intelligence you’re talking about?

@ Don
Because he was in san francisco.

First of all, it is the large towns and smaller cities like Scranton, Erie, Allentown, Easton, and Pittsburgh where the bulk of manufacturing jobs have evaporated — not “small towns”. Secondly, I think those Pennsylvanians in small towns were church-going and defenders of their right to bear arms long before the outsourcing of the 1980s and 90s. Assuming the veracity of this quotation, this seems to be an instance where the candidate, and presumably the audience, really don’t know what they are talking about.

@ fool me once
lol.
you obviously didn’t understand what i meant.

Obama is quite ruthless, and in reality, he does not care about anyone except himself and his ambition to get into the White House. This guy not only threw his Grandma under the bus, but he also threw his white supporters under the bus when he refused to denounce Right Rev. Wright. Wrong! The deeper we dig, the more skeletons come out. His circle of friends and “associations” should raise giant red flags to all of his supporters AND the MSM, but they refuse to see. I’ve always heard the saying “the Blind leading the Blind”, but I never thought I would actually bear witness to it…
Rise, Hillary, Rise! ’08

@ fool me once
if Obama is going to criticize the middle class voters of PENNSYLVANIA so harshly, Obama should of done it to their faces.
He found the prettiest $3.00 words to call Pennsylvanians racists/ religious zealots/ inhumane/ anti-globalization.
[P.S. He points out voters of Pennsylvania specifically.]

@Don
… aaahhhhhh, but we know that Obama is a passive-aggressive personality. He just does not do well with face-to-face confrontations. He has to go to San Francisco to be able to talk to Pennsylvania voters. He’s THAT type of stand-up guy! lol…

akadad:
You forget that HILLARY is still running.
And she will be the ultimate winner.

So are we going hear another off the issues/solution speech about the middle class ::COUGH:: [save my skin speech] ::COUGH:: that the media will herald as the best speech ever told?

@fool me once
And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
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A complement sandwich? He said something nice about Pennsylvanians then bad, bad, bad, bad, then something nice again? I’m sorry, but THAT WON’T WORK.
If it wasn’t so bad then why did his campaign deny those statements at first? They later released a statement after a RECORDING of those comments surfaced.
John Kerry ’04 = Barack Obama ’08!

I love how you Obama supporter say he said the truth, and then you go on to say everything but what he actually said. Are you saying that because of the economy, blue collar workers “get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” If so, how in the world would you or Obama know such a thing? Does your lord and master have some sort of umbilical connection to the psyche of middle America?

Don: The “deny first and then alter course once they are busted” routine has become a common characteristic of the Obama campaign. Same thing with the NAFTA/Canadian embassy issue. Same thing with Rev. Wright . . . and on and on.

LMAO! Some of you are blaming Hillary for THIS? LOL! I know! She had the tape fabricated! This is hysterical! And who was it here who said he’s describing “rednecks.” ROTFL!
There’s a certain irony here. His strength of rhetoric, his ideological circumspection, his enlightening philosophy may be what does him in.
Oprah and Dr. Phil can psychoanalize us Bub. We NEED someone who KNOWS how to DO the JOB. He has shown us nothing but platitudes. His experience is lacking, and his character vague. HE’S VAGUE.
We don’t need a Psychologist in Chief. We don’t need him to proclaim our motives for things we “cling” to or believe in. It’s arrogant as hell coming from the man who wants to be our president.
He can keep his condecending revelations about our puny lives and write some more books.

Fred
That NAFTA myth has been debunked.
It’s now clear that a Canadian news report that started this flap wasn’t accurate. No evidence has surfaced to show that any Obama “staffer” telephoned the Canadian ambassador in Washington, and all concerned deny that any such conversation took place.
Monday, March 3: The Canadian embassy in Washington says it “deeply regrets” the affair, and that “there was no intention to convey, in any way” that Obama was being inconsistent about NAFTA
factcheck.org

@ Daddio
That is exactly why other insignificant things like this matter because their solutions are almost the same EXCEPT Hillary is the one with the REAL UNIVERSAL healthcare plan.

I live in PA and let me tell you something out there in America and in the “media”, Obama has it right. We are bitter!!!
Bitter at the same old Washinton that does nothing to help the common people, the working class. They only talk to us when they want a vote!
To me it is typical Washington how both Clinton and McCain responded, they need to get over themselves and actually talk to the people of PA and get “in touch” with them.
Barack Obama with his statements shows he is the candidate most in touch with how we here in PA feel!

This really hurts because I was the biggest Obama supporter out there in Scranton. I have donated about $2000 to the Obama campaign that I now wish I could have back. Ok, I let the comment about your grandmother slide, I saw your perspective. But this comment is too much. Religion is a symptom of a despondent, depressed America? Does Obama think he is Karl Marx? Say it isn’t so, really, say it isn’t so. I don’t believe a word you say anymore, and I will be e-mailing Mr Axelrod for a refund tonight.

Jake isn’t pro-Clinton in his reporting. In fact, he pretty even-handed. You’re just not used to seeing that in the media in this primary. It’s call journalism, a rare nearly forgotten art form that we should strive to preserve.

@Carl -
I was going to write a really mean reply about Obama, but then I saw your post. Sometimes we forget that silence can speak volumes and to make a point doesn’t have to mean one upsmanship. You bought it home to me that there are people who are not just angry at his remarks, but also hurt. I hope Obama’s campaign refunds your money. Best of luck to you.

We’re dividing our nation?!? Are you mental?
I guess he could be more divisive than this, but it would take some doing: “So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” Barack Obama.

“They fell through the Clinton Admin. . . ” Again, he has the audacity of arrogance to criticize Pres. Clinton’s economic policies, when his biggest economic acheivment is getting Rezko to help him buy his house.
Obama’s achilles heel is arrogance.

Daddio…the truth STINGS!
What is happening here is Sen. Obama is bringing up things which need to be discussed, the fact that typical Washington and political blowhards and the Washington media are the furthest thing from being in touch with us in Small town PA. We are hurting.
Now if the Hillary sore losers want to use something out of context to divide us…oh well!

As I said Teri…PEACE!
Just be prepared when you use things out of context to divide for me to bring the full context out so that people can judge the whole story and not just the part of it that helps your agenda.

So, pragmatically speaking, Fred, are you saying that you’ll vote for Johnny B. Good?

Rob: Thanks for the clarification. Then, the answer is no, unless Obama is the Democratic nominee.

He should bow out of the race now. Clearly he has no interest in representing or even relating to the American people. He is a SCAM. I was born in a small town and so was John Mellancamp! Who needs this guy!

I’m sure credible pschologists and those in the medical field would vouch that people facing hard times are bitter. I would be bitter if I were o lose my job and my home, and my children are starving and without a roof over their heads. With rising crimes, who would want to give up their guns? And who wouldn’t pray harder to save this from sinking. What do rich folks, like the Clintons, the Bushes, the McCains know about the poor being desperate and bitter. They’ve never have to face poverty. Senator Clinton must be blind to the desperation the PA voters are facing in their state. How can those facing hard reality be resilient. Resilent to what when they know that the Government and the Baron Robbers are not on their side! As usual, Sen Clinton lives in her fanrasy island. She just doesn’t het it!

once again obama reveals his feelings about white people and about God.
then he tries to spin it away.

How it it “Arm chair psychology?” If you read the entire quote, you can see he’s on their side, and feels empathy for their pain.
Obama had by far the poorest upbringing of the three candidates. His mother was on food stamps from time to time, for cripe’s sake. He went to school on scholarship and had to take after school jobs at Burger King and Baskin Robbins.. He didn’t make $109 million in seven years and he is not married to a beer heiress.
This is just an excuse to jump on Obama instead of really looking at what he has to say and using it as a springboard for dialog

The 2008 election was supposed to be a referendum on Iraq and the GOP and a landslide for the Democrats. Instead Barack Obama has made it a referendum on Black people and their mentality of militant victim hood. This mentality has clearly -jumped the shark- in an America where Asians are wealthier than Whites, where Hispanics outnumber Blacks, and where Black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean come here voluntarily and do well.
Martin Luther King was a great American. MLK would never have stood and listen to haters without speaking up. Obama’s spiritual advisor like Wright, Lee, Meeks, Jackson, Sharpton are discrediting what MLK stood for in life. These haters are opening the gates to something that is not health for America.
Somewhere, Martin Luther King is hanging his head in despair that the movement he worked so hard and gave his life for has been hijacked by HATRED.

Thanks, gary, well said!

Obama was asked what questions/comments to expect from potential voters… In response to that question he detailed several types of people… Indeed, some persons are quite poor and they do feel that all is lost, they are sick and tired of promises and as such they have lost confidence in the system/politicians. I am not too sure what world some of you live in but some people do respond to financial downfalls by resorting to drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, religion, crime, sports, recreation, education, suicide, hatred….and the list goes on and on…. So just take the time to understand that these statements are very very very very real. Obama also took the time to state that this is in ‘some communities’ … If some of us will take the time to listen and then reflect maybe our undestanding will be more in tune to what was said.
By no means does Obama knows all… The problem however, is that he clearly articulates the situation and challenges us to work our way towards solutions. The question is…Do we wish to conduct our own introspection? There can never be any real solution until we choose to recognize the problem.
Barack’s problem may very much be the fact that he is indeed a dreamer who has confidence in others seeing the light/dawn. …but alas! Few but very few really see the dawn….

terry,
…and what about the selfish, arrogance of a neophyte to the political/national/international scene, that thinks a “vision” will miraculously take form AND be passed by congress, as well as thinking he can run a country/

Terry don’t be stupid. Hillary and McCain never said such things. Hillary never said all Pennsylvanians are happy and all is well and perfect. She said Pennsylvanians are resilient. She was defending that Pennsylvanians have strong character and spirit. However, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t recognize the problems. She is the one promoting the revitalization of manufacturing and steel industries in America as well as new green collared jobs. She is also the one proposing extensive breast cancer research and a Czar on Poverty. She is the one who donated 10% of her income to charities. Bill clinton also started a program to help build houses for hurricane katrina victims. Just because she used positive adjectives to describe pennsylvanians, does not mean she is oblivious to the economic problems. (it was also Hillary who started about the growing housing crisis since 2007, which now Barack claims to have assessed himself)

I understand his remarks were in the context of explaining to one of his supporters what she was likely to encounter should she venture into the wilds of rural Pennsylvania. LOL–rather like an anthropologist on Wild Kingdom–tread softly and listen carefully and you may hear the wail of the embittered red-necked Pennsylvania sapsucker…
I especially like that he added “anti-trade sentiment” to the list of frustration-driven phobias for the benefit of the Left Coast crowd. Was that another wink and nod to his crowd that all that anti-NAFTA malarkey was just that for the benefit of the rubes? Way to go O-Man. Winning hearts and minds and unifying the people.
And Obama? One thing about the folks in PA? They generally don’t like hearing their state referred to as “mid-western.”

tchanta,
Thanks for quoting Obama, changing the subject again. Funny how his condescending, arrogant, inaccurate characterization of small-town residents gets magically transformed into an attack on Countrywide and Citibank Mastercard. It’s amazing how the magician-in-chief is always able to pull off that sleight of hand without “people like you” noticing. (Yes, I’m stereotyping you as an incurious, credulous dupe — how do you like it)?
And CaribbeanOutsider, you are missing the point. First of all, his remarks are not “true.” They are an interpretation. He said, for example, that small-town Pennsylvanians are “anti-immigrant” because they don’t like people who are “different” than themselves. I saw they don’t like illegal immigration because it depresses wages for everyone, siphons billions of dollars from our ecomnomy which is then sent to Mexico, overtaxes our schools and hospitals and creates an underclass. Is what I said “true”? Or am I just a racist?
Open your eyes and ears, people. Obama is getting criticized (finally) because he fundamentally misunderstands this country, its people and its problems because he has lived in a cocoon of privilege his entire life.

Obama made it sound like the people who lost their jobs are just sitting around, going to church and stroking their guns. I think it was not wise to discuss these people in San Franciso with a room full of rich contributors. Why not address it in Pa to thse affected? Working people are the backbone of this nation. He should apologize and stop digging deeper. He’s never experienced such circumstances. It seemed he was sitting on his throne looking down on the “little people”. He shouldn’t try to define them but rather discuss with them.

If you haven’t herd by now Sen. Barack Obama stepped in it out in San Fran speaking like a typical Fly-over Stater about Central Pennsylvania.
“And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Irony Essence Magazine Rolland Martin made an excuse for the comment by also answering the question of “what happens to you and your community when the economics change” you adjust and moved on. For the rest of you kids, the Rust Belt region of the US have had problems since the 1970′s so what grinds my gears is when Obama used this time to “convently” blame Bush and Clinton…
… This leads into a poor lesson in Civics. The Nations Capital dose not have all the answers however your state house just might, your mayors office just might. I keep tell you that the power is in you, not a senator from Illinois. Or any other politician for that matter. These people serve you, you serve you God, family then Nation.
Whats that smell, your candidate just stepped in it deep… Hillary wins PA.
McCain Wins in Nov

President of Disneyland? No thanks.
Hillary and McCain are playing Pollyanna politics.
You can mince his words to your pleasure, but Obama is telling it like it is.
Americans are bitter when their customer service phone calls are answered by someone with an Indian accent.
Americans are bitter about policies that favor job outsourcing.

Hillary Clinton and John McCain inner thoughts Friday night: “Thank you Obama, thank you.” So much for the knock-out blow in PA.

If you are not bitter you will be by the election is over. I love Hillary Clinton but I am not voting for her. It has been said and proven that Obama and Hillary have the same policy pretty much. It is also said that they have voted the same as she has in the senate. Stop being victims of trickery politics. They say who is more electable. It’s like the glass half empty or half full. Anyone is electable but some are easier to beat. Democrats we are so close to winning this thing but because of our divisiveness we are closer to loosing this. I urge you to look at your life, your children’s lives and ask yourself are you willing to risk things getting worse for you and your family just to vote for someone who is likely to loose and not vote for someone with the same policies and more likely to win. When you make these comments or go to the polls during the primaries take a moment to unselfishly think about your children, your family, and your future. Republicans (not all) are not switching their party in large numbers in order to vote for Hillary because they believe in her. The republican despises the Clintons. It is because they know that voting for her in the primaries secures the Whitehouse for four more years. I only expect the intelligent bloggers to get this. All the polls and statistics indicate that Hillary’s supporter is uneducated. I have to believe different but the republicans are banking on our ignorance and stupidity. However, I must admit when I hear how people respond to these silly politics, it makes me wonder if they are right. Many of would like to believe that we would do anything for our children. But would we put our differences aside so that a Democrat will win office. This is what I had to do. Otherwise, I would have voted for Hillary. This is not American Idol. Do your own research. She will not win. The Republican have a full proof plan together ready to unleash it on her. They can’t do the same for Obama.

I think Obama should return to giving inspiring “plagiarized speeches” borrowed from Rev. Wright.
Speaking off the cuff is not working. Somebody prepare him a speech before he ruins the Democratic party.
The more he tries to explain the comment the worse it becomes.

I bet Obama comments probably can be traced back to what Rev. Wright might have said in one of his sermons.
It would not surprise me if there is a tape of Rev. Wright sayng the same thing in church.
I hope the media that have gumshun will look into this. Obama cannot just come to this concluson by himself. This is the Rev. Wright influence that we all fear. 20 years of listening to garbage in that church has to take a toll on Obama and his family.

Oppsss… I drink to much wine so I missspoke!

I have a lot of friends and family that live in rural PA. And many of them are pissed off that their jobs are being exported to cheap labor overseas. And they have every right to be angry at a government that has ignored them.
And what does rev. wright have to do with anything? Be reasonable people.

A final word,
Obama was foolish to say that – even if it is true.
I don’t look at Obama as a Muslim, a socialist, a liberal, a black man, or any of the negative terms that people ignorantly used as an excuse not to vote for someone who is intelligent, philosophical, informed, well educated and a pragmatist.
Unfortunately, all the above labels or qualities, (including intelligent) sometimes do not appear to be ones many Americans like in their leaders. “We want one of us in the White House” – which is sadly why Sarah Palin brought in a few votes from these people who “cling to guns or religion…” for the Republicans when common sense would ask what is appealing about someone who is so clueless about the world.
Ok, I suppose clueless is a label, but it clearly describes what she is. How many people really know what a liberal is? Or a socialist? Or any of the other names that have been demoted to school-yard nah-ni-nah-nah status?
It’s amusing to see how virulent and hot under the collar people get using these labels. And the more uneducated and closed minded, the louder they are. Especially the religious nuts.
I am happy labeling Obama a gentleman, and thrilled he has won, because being a gentleman, he will bring a level of civilization to the White House and international politics that has been sadly lacking the last eight years.