Obama Fires Back at Clinton: ‘Shame on Her’
EmailABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Barack Obama launched into a fiery offensive this evening in a speech before the United Steelworkers Union in Steelton, Pa., in responding to criticisms about his "bitter" remarks — going after Sen. Hillary Clinton in a way rarely seen over the course of this campaign.
"Shame on her," Obama said, echoing one of Clinton’s own atacks on him. "Shame on her, she knows better."
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
Obama said he was disappointed with her for her response and then launched into a new criticism of Clinton over her recent admission of being a hunter, and compared her sarcastically to Annie Oakley.
"She’s running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment, she’s talking like she’s Annie Oakley! Hillary Clinton’s out there like she’s on the duck blind every Sunday, she’s packin’ a six shooter! C’mon! She knows better. That’s some politics being played by Hillary Clinton. I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blinds."
Obama said he is amazed and surprised by this "dust-up" but admitted that his words were chosen badly. He said he deeply regretted … that his words were misinterpreted.
He also defended himself, bringing up his own devotion to faith and his stance on the Second Amendment -– and he responded to the idea that he is an elitist.
"Now, I am the first to admit that some of the words I chose, I chose badly," he said, "So I’m not a perfect man and the words I chose, I chose badly. They were subject to misinterpretation, they were subject to be twisted and I regret that. I regret that deeply. But when people suggest that somehow I was demeaning religion when I know that I’m a man of deep faith, somebody who in my own life has held on to faith, held on to my confidence in God during times of trial and tribulation, then it sounds like there’s some politics being played. When people suggest that I was somehow being elitist and demeaning hunters when I have repeatedly talked about the tradition that people pass on from generation to generation, hunters and sportsmen, and how I have consistently spoken about my respect for the Second Amendment, when people try to suggest that I was demeaning those traditions, then it sounds like there’s some politics that’s being played."
He reiterated what he said was the intended message of his original comments at the fundraiser in San Francisco.
"And what really burns me up is when people suggest that me saying that folks are mad, they are angry, they are bitter after 25, 30 years of seeing jobs shipped out, pensions not fulfilled, healthcare lost, the notion that people are surprised and are suggesting that I’m out of touch because I spoke honestly about people’s frustrations, that tells me there’s some politics going on," he said.
While Obama saved most of the feisty criticism for Clinton, he also took a couple swings at John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president.
"John McCain said I was out of touch, he said I was being ‘condescending and elitist, people aren’t bitter,’" Obama said. "And I’m thinking to myself, here’s a guy it took him three tries before he actually came up with a plan to deal with the millions of people who are about to lose their homes because of foreclosure, who wants to perpetuate the Bush tax cuts."
Obama also reminded the union crowd of Clinton’s position on NAFTA, which many working people blame for allowing companies to outsource manufacturing jobs to Mexico, and Clinton campaign strategist Mark Penn, who was working as a lobbyist for Colombia to help that country get a free trade deal with the United States that Clinton said she opposed.
"Who do you think is out of touch? This is the same person who spent a decade with her husband campaigning for NAFTA and now says she’s against NAFTA," Obama said. "Does that sound like she’s in touch with Pennsylvania? In touch with you? Against trade with Colombia — turns out her top adviser was working with Colombian government to get the bill passed. Does that sound like it’s in touch with you?"
Obama concluded that these are the types of things people are frustrated about, "things haven’t changed. And of course you’re frustrated about that. Of course you’re bitter about that."
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Great comeback from Obama. With this issue being the first question out of the gate at tonight’s Compassion Forum, it will be interesting to see the next 90 minutes.
With confection/candy factories closing and jobs going to Mexico, Hillabeans support for NAFTA should fuel a bunch of Obama votes!!!
I’m eagerly awaiting Wednesday’s debate, in particular, when we’ll get to see both senators on stage and watch them slug it out!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 13, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Obama finaly fights back because the truth is his side.
Posted by: diogu | April 13, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
A vote for Obama is a voye for Hamas! Aljezira reported in Gaza hamas is supprting Obma , March 31st 2008!Also a terrorist is afndraiser for Obama!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/04/islamic-terrori.html
Posted by: David Star | April 13, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Funny how the sportsmen don’t even get that Obama is even more anti gun than Hillary is.
Posted by: Eric | April 13, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
I really can’t understand why anyone would continue to “cling” to Obama. Maybe we can wean you folk off this crutch.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 13, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Please comment on your “slavery” quote in your (private) fundraising “bitter” speech. Upon hearing the audio, I believe you chose your words exactly how you wanted. You know, the tone in which you spoke. Different dialects for different situations.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | April 13, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama is UNELECTABLE. do you understand this?
Posted by: geevill | April 13, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama is the worst choice we could make for president. He is the George Bush of this election cycle. If he is elected everyone will regret it. He will ruin this country and make us weak.
To prove how much he sucks he has Al Gore and Jimmy Carter playing hardball for him. Pathetic!!!
Posted by: Bertrand | April 13, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
To Obama I am happy you are finally defending yourself. Those two wannabee candidates are trying any way they can to discredit you. It is because they are so worried about losing. Anyone with a brain knows what they are doing!!! Hopefully intelligent people know that. I sure hope you win.
Posted by: ayds | April 13, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
LOL @ Obama
Typical for him, he has nothing to offer nothing to give, so as usual obama style he attacks people.
He has ran his whole campaign like that.
dirty, low and anything to make everyone else look bad.
Keep the eyes off of me he is screaming.
He is to funny.
I’m in amazement he has not called anyone racist for not liking his San Francisco speech. (he did that in the speech, but thought he would come back heavy to take the eyes off himself)
He so reminds me of a 10 year old.
Posted by: seah | April 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
When Hillary says shame on you Obama it is madness and cheapness on her part. When Obama says that, it’s a good comeback.
Koolaid, the only drink in the world which really works!
Posted by: Josh | April 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
David Star:
take your crap elsewhere. Use legitimate sources for info, not far right-wing idiots!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Obama LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES.
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while sitting in the pew yes!”
Posted by: ted | April 13, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Well, Josh, what’s good for the goose should be good for the gander!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 13, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Why don’t we just open the doors for the terrorist to come in now and attack us? It looks like the our future friends around the world will be Hamas, Iran’s President, Chavez and so on if we elect Obama. He is full of uncertainty, he has proven over and over that he has no experience and is not ready to lead the United States. We cannot allow this to happen. We cannot sit back and let a condescending, arrogant candidate continue to put us at risk. NOBAMA
Posted by: Persio | April 13, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Hillary is terrible. How could she claim being on the side of the american workers when leaders in her team are currently working against the american people interest. Guest what, Penn is not gone from the team he is still a lead player in her campain. The idea of conflict of interest is real but only in conflict with Hillary attempt to get the nomination. to her he is not in conflict with the american interest.
If she is really honest she should have fired him not hiding him from the public.
Posted by: leche | April 13, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
It’s a shame Barack has to stoop to Hilldabeast’s level in order to adequately defend himself. He has clearly been the superior statesman in this campaign and although his phrasing in the ‘bitter’ story was less than desirable it’s a greater insult to voter’s intellect that the dust-up was due to Clinton’s futile effort to deflect attention from her lies regarding her GI Jane landing in Bosnia and the embarrassment surrounding her chief campaign strategist’s clear conflict of interest with her position on Columbian trade. That is a shame!
Posted by: marc | April 13, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Shame on her?! I agree, that women Clinton, is a apple in Bill Clinton’s teeth. She only is where she is because of Bill.
Rotary saudations to all.
Posted by: Omega Petrograde | April 13, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Jackt51,
ROFLMAO.
Great comeback indeed. Thank Obama for Obama. He is the great hope of the Obama zombie nation. Did he denounce and repudiate his remarks, but maintain compassion for himself as a person? Is the problem that we don’t really know the Obama that Obama knows. The Obama that Obama knows doesn’t spew hateful rhetoric at small-town people, if Obama had heard any thoughts like that previously he would have got up and walked out on himself.
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Obama, there’s a thundering speech a’comin’.
He will explain it all – you just wait and see.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
This guy doesn’t have grounds. Who does he think he is kidding? The sensation is over and Obama himself has showed the ignorant and the segregationist he is. I am glad to find the truth sooner than later.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 13, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Very good response. I feel so disappointed in Hillary Clinotn. The way she pounces on Sen Obama is really amazing. It is very noticaeable that Sen. Obama never talked about the Mark Penn imbroglio until now: What a difference in character !
Posted by: B Thomas | April 13, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Obama’s Comeback? probably happened overnight when i was sleeping because i missed it.
Posted by: I am NOT Bitter | April 13, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I forgot, does Obama have any stances on issues? It seems he spends all his time clarifying what he says.
Posted by: james | April 13, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Shame on clinton? What the heck, this guy says when things go bad in small town america, they run to their churches, guns, and are racist against immigrants..
What a jerk
Posted by: Eddie | April 13, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Shame on Obama for his cultural bigtory and shame on his pastor Wright for his anti-american, racist sermons! I guess the master taught the grasshopper well! He is starting to sound just like his master!
Posted by: russell | April 13, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Evil always behaves that way when is discovered. When you hang out with so many sects and blame, and resentment, and envy, and excuses, and apologies, and lies, evil always gets unveiled Barck Obama, the perfect of evil.
Posted by: Josephm20 | April 13, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Shame on that women Clinton, she is a beautifull, but every time she opens the mouth, she provides no hope for the people. Vote Obama, and let Clinton be what she allawys be: number 2 in Bill’s pocket.
Posted by: Bill Kodack | April 13, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Jimmy Carter is going over to talk to Hamas too. The saying goes keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
You see, speaking with them, communicating and working to bring peace to both people is in everyones best interest, especially ours. Someday we may not fund wars for Israel or fund her military or her country to the tune of billions a year.
Its just smart world relations to bring peace and reconciliation to the peoples elected governments.
Posted by: Anna | April 13, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Why is it always Clinton to go first? Media always gives Obama a pillow.
Shame on Obama, he should have spoken what he spoke in front of PA voters and not behind their back in rich San Francisco.
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Why is it when Obama says something wrong it is always Clinton’s fault? Just wondering.
Posted by: Chris | April 13, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
It is the glass ceiling! That is what Obama is attempting to break – Yeah!
Posted by: Ike | April 13, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
And her doughter is even more beautifull, with that look that kills every one when she comes by, but this is politic, and Bill is the men, not Clinton women, so vote for Obama.
Posted by: Jimba | April 13, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Obama IIIIIIIIIIIIgive them and let them die oh my bring on the morph.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
To: Ted 8:51:44
Dude. You really need to get a life.
Posted by: whataplace | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
ted get a life
Posted by: jc | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Oh, “David Star,” (a little contrived, no?) why do you let Hamas tell you who to vote for?
Posted by: James | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Obama is a uniter? Who are we kidding? He’s the one that is willing to meet with Iranian president, who wants Israel wiped of the map. He’s the one that would meet with Venezuelan president too. He’s also the one listening to hate sermons for years on. He’s the one getting support from Carter who’s willing to meet with Hamas. He’s the one calling small town americans bitter, clinging to homophobia, anti immigrant feelings and guns to escape hardship. BAD VERY BAD WORDS OBAMA. KEEP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF, YOU ARE DOING A HELL OF A JOB, JUST KNOW YOU WILL NOT BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. NO TO OBAMA!
Posted by: I am NOT Bitter | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
ABC, isn’t someone moderating this forum? Some of these posts should not be here. Let’s have some real, thoughtful discourse and not hate-filled rants.
Posted by: jimbym | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Barack Obama’s aloofness is placing his surrogates in limbo. The lack of discernment, the opposite of what he preaches is the most embarrassing fiasco of any candidate. America wants facts and effectiveness and that is not found in an opportunist like Barack Obama.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Obama claims he was out of touch from his Pastor who gave hateful sermons.
I think he was completely in touch with his Pastor.
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Shame on Obama. His insults on all the voters that do not vote for him are right out of the book of the dictatorial regimes. Soon he will attacks everyone who does not have a photograph of him on the wall. The guy is totally shameless.
Posted by: LT | April 13, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Obama is the Trojan horse for hate in America. Nothing more.
Posted by: Jack | April 13, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OBAMA’S MODUS OPERANDUM. (MO)
WHENEVER YOU MAKE A mistake blame it on HILLARY CLINTON. IF IT DOES NOT WORK FOR OBAMA -HE WILL GET HIS MEDIA MOGULS TO DO IT.
THIS GUY IS A WHINING LITTLE IDIOT.
HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT OBAMA’S MOTHER.
OBAMA MADE A MISTAKE-HE SHOULD BE APOLOGIZING TO THE PEOPLE.
ANYTIME HE MAKES A MISTAKE-HE TURNS INTO A BULLY
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Obama you said what you meant and meant what you said. You’re the man of great speechs so why would anyone believe otherwise. It’s really funny, us white folks have to watch every word we say so as not to become racist and when we do the NAACP is called in along with Jackson and Sharpton. You’ve done and said so many things that have been swept under the rug, I’m glad this is being pushed and hope it’s pushed even further. Shame on you. I’m from TN and have had several jobs pulled from under me but I never got bitter or resorted to guns. I’ve always trusted in the Lord to pull me thru. Things happen in life we have no control over so we have to make adjustments. By the way I’ve never drawn unemployment, welfare or food stamps and I’ve never been hungry or cold. When one job played out I found another and worked for 49 years before I retired. So again SHAME ON YOU!!
Posted by: C Good | April 13, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
And how does this negate the fact that he called rural Americans people with gun and god delusions?
Posted by: Aston | April 13, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
ted-thanks. Now put up all of Hill-Billys lies. Oh, I know,there is not enough room on the INTERNET for all of their lies. Hill says words don’t matter, but Billy’s words were able to put 5.2 MILLION dollars in their bank account. I’d say words mean a little bit… Don’t you think?
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Ted is scary and really needs to get a life.
Posted by: alan | April 13, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Obama ’08
YES WE CAN HATE!
Posted by: Bweth | April 13, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Obama is boring in this faith interview. I cannot believe he is the same Obama who talks so fluently in his rally.
He is a complete liar.
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
At least with Hillary and MCCAIN, we know what we are getting.
Who knows Obama amd Michelle and who knows what else will be discovered
Like the saying goes:
Better the evil we know than the evil we dont know ..
Posted by: EvilWeDontKnow | April 13, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
It’s okay Barack, Michelle and Jeremiah. We hate you, too.
Posted by: Derrick Rogers | April 13, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
OBAMA, THE PIED PIPER, HAS FINALLY IMPLODED.
TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY!!!!
PREACH YOUR WAY OUT IT!!!!!!
BULLY HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!
BULLY BULLY BULLY!!!!!!!!!
WHINY PALGIARIZER, COPYCAT,
APOLOGIZE STUPID IDIOT
OBAMA APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR REMARKS AND ALPOLOGIZE FOR JEREMIAH WRIGHT
ESPECE DE BULLY!!!!!!
BULLY, OBAMA, BULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAY SOMETHING LIKE, “HILLARY CLINTON IS MY MOM, SHE DID IT ALL”!!!!
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Wow that’s ripe coming from someone whose Pastor of 20 years just called Thomas Jefferson an pedophile and hates America.
Obama cannot win a general election.
The Republicans will rip him to shreds.
Posted by: s.b. | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Did u see the crowd clapping more often than they did for Hillary… group of Obama supporters are starting to clap and people are following them… this is a joke
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
There are so many disturbing aspects of what Obama said in San Fran. Of course, another aspect is that he makes a gross generalization about an entire class of people. It really is bigoted to sum categories of folks up and make out you understand them by grouping them in demeaning little packages. But then again this is the guy who described his grandmother as “a typical white person” and who said “we all harbor stereotypes”. Shame on him.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Hey Ted, Persio, RossiMas, west coast messenger and all other Hillarybots:
I thought you’d like to see your candidate Hillary in action:
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/04/hillary-clint-4.html#disqus_thread
Here is what Carl Bernstein has to say about the great Hillary:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/carl-bernstein-what-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-look-like/
I especially like the video, which documents all of Hillary’s lies back to before 2000 IN HER OWN WORDS!!!!! She’s been a lying power mad greedy manipulator. She and Bill wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped them in the face.
The gall to manipulate the voters in Pennsylvania by smearing, race bating divisive neo con rhetoric. Shame on Hillary and shame on all you Clintonistas.
Posted by: Walt | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
This must be the Firey Weekend. Yesterday, using a funeral as a pulpit, Rev. Wright “fired back” at the news media. Today Obama “fires back” at Hillary. Copy Cat!
Posted by: RL in Illinois | April 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Hillary Clinton has certainly vetted herself lately:
as a liar, (dodging bullets in Bosnia),
a cheater,(trying to change the rules in FL & MI after signing an agreement to honor them),
and now as a hypocrite, (calling Obama a elitist when she’ a bigger one than he is).
I think the super delegates are seeing her as she is and thats why they’re still moving to Obama’s side.
Posted by: concerned Dem | April 13, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Well said, ….Fred
Posted by: KURT | April 13, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
I am an Obama supporter, however, I would love to see Hill-Billy get the nod just to see them crash and BURN in November. LITTLE Mr. McTroll will be a one termer… He just wants to get in the history books, So, the Dems will be able to come back in 2012. Plus Bush is leaving EVERYTHING in such an awful mess that there will be no good way (only terrible options) to get us back to sanity. I don’t want to see Mr. Obama be blamed for the clamities that are sure to face the next prez.
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
There he goes again, using someone else’s words. Again.
This bitterness being the reason for religion and gun ownership thing speaks VOLUMES to me. Couple that with the rantings of his chip-on-my-shoulder wife… Scary.
Listen up, Obamabots, Sen. Messiah is NOT who you think you fell in love with. Step away from the Koolaid.
Posted by: John in Boston | April 13, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Shame on you, OBAMA! You know what kind of person you are. You are the best liar in the world, you are the best actor in the world. Everytime you made mistakes, no matter what it is, you turned around to blame other people. How many times you attaked Hillary for no reason? how many times you lied about your record? how many times you exagerated your achievement? You know what kind of dirty tricks you played. You just played it in a smart way so that no one noticed it yet. I’m going to vote for McCain if you are the nominee, so will many of my friends, unless you admit that you are a liar and you played many dirty tricks in this campaign.
Posted by: Judy | April 13, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Just keep talkin’ Obama. The more we get to know you, the less we seem to like you.
Let’s face it, you and your wife don’t hold too much of America dear. You have shown no abilty to reach across the isle and change anything.
You have the least experience and the thinnest record to run on ever.
Posted by: Bill | April 13, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Reading these posts, you people are just idiots. ALL of you. You could get a life, get some fresh air, play with your kids (if you have them), or better yet get some lessons in grammar. Its easy to spread lies and unsubstantiated truths when you don’t have to personally BACK IT UP (and that goes for any candidate you support).
Posted by: YouPeople | April 13, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Sen. Obama seems to suffer from feelings of grandiosity. He also condescends. He said, “Hillary, you can stay in the race…” Sen. Hillary Clinton didn’t need his permission to stay in the race. When he said that─ there were more than ten states that had not held their primaries─ including Florida and Michigan. He was far from locking up the nomination. He’s a great name-dropper and he tends to patronize. He looks down on people who are different. I have never sensed more hubris from a candidate as much as from Sen. Barack Obama. I hope he understands the fact that he comes across as an elitist to many voters. First of all, everything and anything he does, he claims it to be historical. When Sen. Obama declared his candidacy he was imitating what President Lincoln had done. Then, he claimed he was MLK and even JFK, But it was Sen. Obama who did not even show up at MLK’s 40th death anniversary in Memphis; he turned his back─ while Sen. Clinton and McCain attended, but the media including MSNBC tried hard to splice him into the commemorative activities telecast; thus giving the false impression that he was present in Memphis, although he did not bother. He probably thinks anyone who doesn’t vote for him has something wrong with them. He comes across as someone who is well liked by the elite and comfortable with the blackberry crowd. He seemed to distrust average working person. The press and the media keep propping Sen. Obama up and amplify is accomplishments while slighting and ridiculing Sen. Clinton’s achievements. Sen. Obama has a modest record as a politician. There is almost nothing he’s done that stands out and would qualify him for the Democratic Party’s nomination. There are some politicians who are only good at running campaigns; and that’s all they are skilled at, once they are elected they sort of lose interest. In office they languish, have no focus or vision, skill or competency and even interest to accomplish what they were elected for. I have an intuitive feeling that Sen. Obama is like that. Like a guy running after a girl, after the chase they lose interest, or they don’t know what to do with themselves! He probably thinks anyone who doesn’t vote for him has something wrong with them. By not having confidence or trust in common man, working people and not being able to accept an average American who he or she is, Sen. Barack Obama has made a grave mistake that clearly jeopardize his candidacy! He has no real feel for “we the people!” That’s what makes him an elitist, disqualifies from being a good candidate.
Posted by: charleychaplin | April 13, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
By the way, did you catch Bill Clinton’s latest underhanded sleazy deal with China?:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-clintonchina13apr13,0,4162108.story?track=ntothtml
Seems as if he is making deals with the people who are oppressing Tibet.
Anything to keep that $109 million coming in, and that $500 million for their “foundation” that made NO disbursements until Hillary started her campaign.
This couple defines corruption and dishonesty.
Posted by: Walt | April 13, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
If shame on you worked for Hillary in Ohio, it does not neccessarily mean it will work for Obama in PA. Why does he have to piggyback all the time to explain what he says, the wife says and the associates say. Can’t they communicate what they mean to say first time in clear and comprehensive manner?
Posted by: mark | April 13, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Reading these posts, you people are just idiots. ALL of you. You could get a life, get some fresh air, play with your kids (if you have them), or better yet get some lessons in grammar. Its easy to spread lies and unsubstantiated truths when you don’t have to personally BACK IT UP (and that goes for any candidate you support).
Posted by: YouPeople | April 13, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Oh so typical. Mr. Obama does not know what it is to have any humility. His words were non-compassionate. If HE wants to be Pesident then HE needs to THINK before he opens his mouth. Countries like Iran, Russia, Pakistan Cuba et al will NOT give him a second chance to Clarify his words. They’d bomb us before the media saved his arse and America would be in shambles!!BOTH MCCain and Clinton called him on his insensitivity. BUT of course…media and Obama supporters do NOT have a conscience when it comes to offending people. They shine the mirror on everyone else! NO OBAMA.. too insensitive and uneducated in the REAL world.
Posted by: DaneNM | April 13, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
I worked as an organizer you know I read that in his bio and he said they got thier money from Americorp I wonder if that is Bill Clintons Americorp he started when he was in office to improve the inner city’s of america.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Only way Obama can make himself look good is putting others down.
Typical 10 year old mentality.
The man has no place in this race.
Posted by: seah | April 13, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I am from Pennsylvania and I am deeply offended by the remarks from Obama.
I am a conservative, so I was never going to vote for Obama. However, I would hope a possible future president would represent ALL Americans.
Obama’s comments; proves he understands very little about Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is called the “State of Independence.” This is where it all started. This dream of freedom didn’t start in Chicago; it didn’t originate in Los Angeles. It started in Philadelphia. Pennsylvania has two major, world- class cities with people of all color living side by side. It’s been that way for hundreds of years.
In the middle, Pennsylvania has hard working people..
Oh yes, Obama. We have jobs. We work.
Some of us own guns. Some do not.
Some of us believe in God. Some do not.
Some of us folks in Pennsylvania are republicans. Some are democrats.
But one thing we are NOT, is racist.
Pennsylvania has tunnels and old houses that were part of the “Underground Railroad”, in which many of our great great-grand parents tried to help slaves become free.
Don’t you ever come to my state and call the people of Pennsylvania “racist.”
Obama, why don’t you visit Gettysburg? How many young farmers from Pennsylvania lost their lives on that bloody battlefield? Tens of thousands of young men became casualties on that Pennsylvania battlefield, so that all men could be free.
In conclusion, Mr. Obama, the only racist I have seen in the past couple of weeks has been your preacher.
I still haven’t received any kind of apology from you.
In the future, please refrain from calling the people of Pennsylvania- “gun carrying racists.”
Let’s drop the stereo types.
I have never called you a “crook from Chicago.”
Posted by: The Angry Republican | April 13, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Keep fighting back Obama! Keep telling it like it is. You speak nothing but the truth. Stick it to Hillary in this Wednesday’s debate, but keep your cool. Hillary will be unable to control her anger and bitterness- she will lose it- because she knows deep down that she has already lost, and has to destroy you to somehow steal the nomination by overturning the will of the people. This translates into very b*&^%y BAD Hillary debate moments on TV for all to see and enjoy. More great stuff for SNL to parody. Looking forward to it!!
Posted by: rco | April 13, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Hahaha >>>>>>>>>>Ted you should write Hillys too ,you would need the whole page>>>>Drink your own kool aid people come Nov…………..You are the sick people tha makes this country the way it is your hate is deep…
No I am not bk.I am an older white person you know one of the supposed to vote for hilly baby .NO WAY.Your going to find more and more like myself who will vote for Obama but then they are all saying we are not going to..HUH ????guess it pays to have gone to school and know the difference between right and wrong…Smart ones we are……..
Posted by: h | April 13, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
For all those that are still Obama supporters it is obvious that you do not care about facts and/or you are racist. Ted hit the nail on the head. If Obama were white he would not have gotten this far. Sad but true. Those that are truly for equality will look beyond color or gender and choose a president for his commitment and faith in this country. That person is not Obama.
Posted by: bertrand | April 13, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Yeah, all of us dumb, bitter white trash should just hang ourselves, and let the great Obama take over our world…
Posted by: David E.Connolly, Jr. | April 13, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
They are both a joke – a bad one at that.
Posted by: petee | April 13, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
America will be so much better off without the Clintons. It doesn’t matter if it is Obama, McCain or the devil himself — any alternative is better than 4 more years of this sleaze.
Posted by: Mike - WA | April 13, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Obama is right, Clnton was waiting for ANYTHING that would distract the voters on her multple lies and her self centered ethics, SHE HAS SAID ANYTHING TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE MISSLED TO BELIEVE HER. Really now…. Is BILL & Hill against NAFTA? Do you honestly believe, if elected she would not change position on Columbia. The fact that the Columbian Connection still has a payroll check from the Clinton campaign MUST TELL YOU SOMETHING!!
Let’s face it, Clinton is about Clinton not the workers of America. I’m amazed that the press have not gone into the Clintons Tax Scams. Do you really beleive that they did not have 2007 ready?? What’s this about their claims to being totally transparent????
America needs a change in this self centered poltics. Why not now??
Posted by: savoymt | April 13, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Obama is right, Clnton was waiting for ANYTHING that would distract the voters on her multple lies and her self centered ethics, SHE HAS SAID ANYTHING TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE MISSLED TO BELIEVE HER. Really now…. Is BILL & Hill against NAFTA? Do you honestly believe, if elected she would not change position on Columbia. The fact that the Columbian Connection still has a payroll check from the Clinton campaign MUST TELL YOU SOMETHING!!
Let’s face it, Clinton is about Clinton not the workers of America. I’m amazed that the press have not gone into the Clintons Tax Scams. Do you really beleive that they did not have 2007 ready?? What’s this about their claims to being totally transparent????
America needs a change in this self centered poltics. Why not now??
Posted by: savoymt | April 13, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
You know what has me worried.. Everything I see being posted here. I have never read such one sided, out of touch, non-factual, and outright crap like I have in many of these posts. I do not care which candidate you all like or dislike.. but you need to read what you are all posting.. and see what you come across as to the rest of us… It is amazing to see how blind people are to the reality of the situation. ALL of the candidates have said things wrong. ALL of the candidates have made mistakes, stepped out of line and made other HUMAN mistakes. I do not know who I am voting for yet. But I do know that reading what ANY of you has to say is a waste of time and will not sway me in the least. Most of you have not a clue what the hell you are talking about. Most of you are just spewing rumors, inuendo and more crap than I can find on a local farm.
I do not care if my candidate is white, black, pink or purple… woman, man, he/she or other. What I DO care about is whether they tell the truth, whether they speak their mind and not what the politically correct thing is AND whether they sincerely want to try and change things. Although I have not yet decided on who I will vote for, I HAVE decided on who I will not vote for. Hillary Clinton has lied and stretched the truth and done more damage with attacking other candidates than she can imagine. So she at least narrowed it down for me to two candidates. She has shown herself to be nothing more than another political mouthpiece that just wants to get in the highest office where I have NO doubt things will be status quo when it comes to the political games we have to endure as citizens.
If you people are truly going to post and debate the issues, quit spewing all the false information, the crap and the diatribe. It only makes you stink more than any pile I have come across so far.
Todd
Posted by: Todd | April 13, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Has anybody asked that old hag how many times she has been to Sunday services in the last 12 years? Not during the week senate prayer crap, real sunday services? If she is going to call out people’s faith what exactly is her practice on Sunday?
Posted by: bill | April 13, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Too many mentally deficient hateful people with too much to say here.
Posted by: concerned Dem | April 13, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Elitist to the core. Comes from going to school at THE most elitist school in Hawaii, Punahou. Also……
Kids learn patriotism in school everyday when they place their hand over their heart and repeat the Pledge of Allegience……..Kindergarten thru 12th
and Barack missed this most important time in his life while in Indonesia…hmmm.
No wonder he is anti-patriotic!!
Posted by: Jim | April 13, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Todd it took you long enough to say what you really wanted to say that you are for Obama well his lies are way bigger .
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Sen. Obama and his campaign continue to embrace his controversial remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser where he said small town votes in Pennsylvania and elsewhere “cling” to guns and religion out of bitterness and frustration. At the same time they have released an angry memo attacking Hillary’s views on gun rights, trade and lobbyists.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 13, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
His speechwriter must of been on vacation. Now he can respond forcefully!
And guess Im not buying it. He still dont get it. In front of the rich crowd he calls the lower income people a Bigot.
That is a General election killer.
Posted by: toby | April 13, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Sen. Obama has explicitly said that he would be the candidate to bring our country together. This “bringing together” was a central part of his political logic and of his candidacy. But talking to San Francisco group of affluent liberal supporters of his in a closed-door fundraising event, Sen. Obama was damning rural America and the working class. This was a “cheep short” at America’s heartland. Sen. Obama did not hurt anyone but his own chances of winning the nomination. How can he propose to bring the “country together” with such hubris and with such divisive tone of condemnation of the “other Americans” who were not there to give him money? To nominate Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate would be a huge mistake. Winning the White House in November for the democrats is still with Sen. Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: charleschaplin | April 13, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Dear “Obama’s NOT getting MY Vote !” – Thoe were Her words… Words and pretty speeches mean nothing” not mine. Obviously words do mean something. No, The REAL BILL is NOT brilliant. He is a snake oil salesman that dupped the country for years and wants the opportunity to do it again. He is a liar and a cheat. Always has been. I smoked, but I didn’t inhale… I did not have sexual relations with that woman… She misspoke once at 11:00 at night. LIAR,Liar pants and pantsuits on FIRE. And you want that crap in the whitehouse again. Shame on you! No, I pitty your judgement and feel sad for the world if Hill-Billy are let into office again. They speak of Hills supporters not voting for Mr. Obama, but there are many, many more that will not vote for Hill/Bill if THEY are nominated… BELIEVE IT!
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Hillary has long supported smart gun legislation. Some of Hillary’s record includes: Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers. (Jan 2008) Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)License and register all handgun sales. (Jun 2000)
Tough gun control keeps guns out of wrong hands. Gun control protects our children. Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation. (Jul 1999)
Lock up guns; store ammo separately. (Jun 1999)
Obama- on the other hand – has stated that he wants only police, military and retired police/military to own guns. I guess he will use the gun registrations to collect all the guns, and then only police, military, and outlaws will have guns.
Posted by: Bobo | April 13, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
it seems that Obama is always clarifying what he has said and fighting against what clinton has said,
Posted by: frank | April 13, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
The real difference between the candidates. Hillary lies, and she is tired. Obama goofs, and admits his mistakes. McCain wants to be the next rebublic tough guy. This way we can be trillions and trillions in debt
Posted by: Ray | April 13, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Shame on Obama! He doesn’t seem to be accountable to anyone. Our Great Orator has trouble expressing his views. Anyone who questions Obama is characterized as either a Racist or being shameful.
Posted by: John | April 13, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
“YES WE CAN GIVE THE ELECTION TO MCCAIN” … if NObama gets the nomination!
SHAME ON NOBAMA .. just like the race issue, he is turning this around and blaming others!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson | April 13, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Lets get real people. If a vote for Hillary really is a vote for Bill then we will all be living in a nice peaceful country where our allies are all happy, the economy is booming and the national debt is going down. I didn’t give a crap that he lied about having an affair. Every man who has ever had an affair has lied about it. And to be honest, I would much prefer my president sexually satisfied and happy than sexually deprived and stressed out.
Obama is full of it. We turn to our guns, hatred of imigriants and Churches? Really? The last time I was in a church was to vote. I stood at the entrance a few minutes just to make sure the roof wouldn’t fall in. We do own guns, but we also have wild stray dogs, bears, and a bob cat or two that like to wander up in the yard. Its not safe to live out here without a gun. I don’t mean from man I mean from nature.
As to imigrants, I don’t hate them. They saved me from having to work picking peas as a teenager. They do the jobs we don’t want to do so they are more than welcome.
For the record, I live just outside a tiny town of 200 people.
Posted by: Kelien | April 13, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
That’s right Dems, lets just keep fighting each other, so by the time the November election rolls around, everyone votes for the GOP and McBush….an we get 4 more years of business as usual.
It is time to put the bickering aside, get united, and get the swill in Washington DC out of there.
Posted by: Spicerun | April 13, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
If Obama gets the democratic nod, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE I WILL BE VOTING A REPUBLICAN FOR PRESIDENT.
Posted by: giz | April 13, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Nice try Obama but I can see through your ploy to deflect attention from your condescending and arrogant comments. SHAME ON YOU, Barak Obama!!!
Posted by: CNL | April 13, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Excuse me? His commitment to the Second Amendment? Wasn’t he on the Board of the Joyce Foundation from 1998 to 2001? The Joyce Foundation gives grants to gun control organizations and for research into gun violence prevention. The largest single grant recipient has been the Violence Policy Center – they received over $4M to date and they call for an outright ban on handguns, semi-automatic and other firearms, and substantial restrictions on gun owners.
Second amendment commitment… he is committed to taking away those guns that these small town folks are “clinging” to!
Posted by: smartprimate | April 13, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
He finally blew his top. He showed the real Obama, Chicago mob style when aggravated. So many lies and insults are enough to lose his nomination.
Posted by: asb | April 13, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
I think the “Annie Oakely” comment about Hillary is more of the same “elitism” …because it appears that Obama’s stereotypical view includes making fun of women who have hunted. I am sure someone wrote that gem for him because I doubt he even knows what a duck blind is…. and apparently does not realize that one does not hunt ducks with a “six-shooter.” Or that even though Annie Oakely used shotguns, revolvers, and rifles, she is most famous for marksmanship feats with her .22 rifle… and almost every photo shows her holding a rifle…. She was also a very successful hunter (small game with her dad’s rifle) as a teenager by which she earned money to help her mom pay the mortgage.
Posted by: Nickberry | April 13, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
How come Obama is always sounding
like a fool – he weakens America everytime
he opens his mouth???
Give it up Obama!!!!
Posted by: sally | April 13, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
The forum was the first of its kind in a presidential race. Watching both candidates, it is not surprising that Senator Obama is comfortable in a situation such as this; Hillary is not. Hillary had to attack politically; Senator Obama stayed on task. Yep! He has my vote!!!!!!
Posted by: sandy | April 13, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
I bet Obama has never hunted or fired a gun. I know Hillary has, she said it months ago, she said she went hunting with her dad and shot shot before. I am a hunter myself and I support Hillary because I know she is for Sportsmen like me and the rest of this country.
GO HILLARY…dont listen to the obama factor.
Posted by: cpmforhillary | April 13, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
The truth is Obama should be in jail
for his unpatriotic behavior.
Posted by: justice | April 13, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
I bet Obama has never hunted or fired a gun. I know Hillary has, she said it months ago, she said she went hunting with her dad and shot shot before. I am a hunter myself and I support Hillary because I know she is for Sportsmen like me and the rest of this country.
GO HILLARY…dont listen to the obama factor.
Posted by: cpmforhillary | April 13, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Obama is a pathoogical liar and a racialphobe – very similar profile as many
criminals…
Posted by: sri | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
When Obama’s poor judgment further erodes the image of the USA in the eyes of our allies and enemies who have been kept at bay, will he say to America please forgive me for my poor choice of words because he is not a perfect man? Will he be engaged in a speech while the missiles are enroute to the USA? Judgment is a key element of character… Obama your 15 minutes are up.
Posted by: mixed-american | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:
HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS
AFRICAN “FAMILY
HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHEIST, WHITE-
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE
GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM.
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL
HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS
HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A
DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?
HE “WORKED” AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A
PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST
NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL
WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE
HE IS PROUD OF HIS “AFRICAN HERITAGE” BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY
AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A “CULTURAL” GENE. WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?
HE GOES TO A “AFROCENTRIC” CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS
AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH
HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!
YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I
THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER
NO TO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
Clinton or McCain 2008…
Posted by: Melissa | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
While Obama distracts voters with mis-speak on his and Senator Clinton’s records on Nafta, he doesn’t want voters to check his record that shows he actually voted in 2007 to expand NAFTA to Peru. In January 2008, his campaign told Canada to ignore his comments about getting rid of NAFTA.
In 2007, Hillary voted against expanding NAFTA to save American jobs.
Posted by: Del | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Politicians have been serving us with platitudes all the while dancing to a different drummer. A force more powerful than us common folk. People who passed NAFTA and other free trade agreement were doing so to make the flow of capital and profits across borders easy. Who did it serve? Definitely not the average citizen. We got Walmarts instead. Surely Mrs. Clinton must have known whose interest NAFTA was going to serve. If she did not know that she is not qualified to lead this nation.
Posted by: worldsam | April 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Shame on you Obama. You want to deflect the attention from you.
I guess if you belong to a racist and anti-american church you become bitter. That is the only reason why you will cling to such a church.
Posted by: miyaki | April 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I bet Obama has never hunted or fired a gun. I know Hillary has, she said it months ago, she said she went hunting with her dad and shot shot before. I am a hunter myself and I support Hillary because I know she is for Sportsmen like me and the rest of this country.
GO HILLARY…dont listen to the obama factor.
Posted by: cpmforhillary | April 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Shame on you Obama. You want to deflect attention from you.
I guess if you belong to a racist and anti-american church you become bitter. That is the only reason why you will cling to such a church.
Posted by: miyaki | April 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I am amazed, both Clinton and Obama, I thought, did very well on the Compassion Forum this evening.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
You are a liar Baraka, you sweet talk your way out of trouble when you’re caught out. In your speech you took every idea Hillary has ever mentioned and claimed it as your own. You are corrupt, like your friend Rezko. As Pastor Wright would say; “your chickens are coming home to roost”…you are not fit to be President! Hillary has a good track record, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? NOTHING! You are arrogant and totally unfit!
GO HILLARY!
Posted by: Di | April 13, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
How come Obama is always sounding
like a fool – he weakens America everytime
he opens his mouth???
Give it up Obama!!!!
Posted by: ruth | April 13, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Wicked man. He is creating stories. I’m sure 80% of what he said is not true. He has got more votes than clinton, but I didn’t think he will be the president although he can beat clinton. His policies are against the wealthy people. At the wealthy club seekwealthy dotcom, most successful wealthy guys are attracking on his policies. His future is not good either.
Posted by: andy3432 | April 13, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
The more I see and hear Barack and then I read what his dectrators have to say I realize that your lack of education and understanding MUST be a direct result of the last few administrations failure to properly Educate Americans. You do realize that is precisely why they do not want you to be educated…because then you would be too smart to fall for their jedi mind tricks!
Posted by: Beka | April 13, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Crazy steel workers!! If they vote for the person(Hillary clinton) who helped sell them down the river(Nafta) then they deserve what they get. Sen Obama is for real and on their side but the liars who support Clinton don’t play it that way!!!!
Posted by: rockychance | April 13, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
When one talks about someone owning guns they lose……These are fighting words to the American Sportsman….Obama really messed up this time no taking theses words back…And he really needs to stop blaming Hillary for his words ..These were his words not Hillarys…Hillary is just doing what Obama would have done and he knows it…Go Away Obama…Your not a true American….
Posted by: Patricia | April 13, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Shame on you Obama!!!! You want to deflect attention from you.
I guess if you belong to a racist and anti-american church you become bitter. That is the only reason why you will cling to such a church.
Posted by: bill | April 13, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
First, Obama wouldn’t confirm or deny. Then, he gives this weak there out of touch speak. Followed with, I misspoke. Now he is absolutely losing his cool. Not good for him. If he wins the nomination, the democrats lose big. Hillary will just talk economy and waltz into the White House.
Posted by: jay | April 13, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Hallelujah! I was wondering when this guy was going to take off the gloves and start giving it back to hillary. Watch her throw down that Canadian import whiskey! She passed on the American made whiskey offers till the bartender said “Crown Royal”…then she’s was all over it like the cheap pantsuits she wears! The crowd was chanting “NAFTA! NAFTA!”. (The part about declining w-shots until the bartender offered Crown Royal is true.) Its 3 a.m., she’s got a hangover!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as I hit the “post” button on this comment, I’m logging onto Obama’s site and giving a campaign contribution! Come on Pennsylvania, give us a vote for Obama.
Posted by: Laura | April 13, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
When one talks about someone owning guns they lose……These are fighting words to the American Sportsman….Obama really messed up this time no taking theses words back…And he really needs to stop blaming Hillary for his words ..These were his words not Hillarys…Hillary is just doing what Obama would have done and he knows it…Go Away Obama…Your not a true American….
Posted by: patti | April 13, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
The leaders of the democratic party have got to be sweating big bullets this weekend. The realization that the minute chance Obama had of winning the general is now gone. Guess Howard Dean should have done a more thorough background check on his candidate before he started with his push of him through the 50 states. You hear about how someone appears “presidential,” well sorry to say, but anyone that has to explain why he meant what he said about small town America but didn’t word it very well, why his wife has insulted America, why his preacher of 20 years has insulted America, is the farthest thing from being presidential. Keep shoving him down our throats, Mr. Dean, when the democrats lose this election, I’m guessing your job performance reveiw will reflect just how pathetic the dem party has become.
Posted by: KOL | April 13, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Obama parses his words and his latest talks on guns has been to tell everyone he is a “constitutional” lawyer and he understands the 2nd amendment. What does that mean? Even the U.S. Supreme Court has been avoiding that interpretation.
Obama has also stated recently that he is against concealed weapons permits? Huh? I cannot fathom a position against qualified citizens getting lawful permits.
Posted by: Nickberry | April 13, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
When Obama’s poor judgment further erodes the image of the USA in the eyes of our allies and enemies who have been kept at bay, will he say to America please forgive me for my poor choice of words because he is not a perfect man? Will he be engaged in a speech while the missiles are enroute to the USA? Judgment is a key element of character… Obama your 15 minutes are up.
Posted by: peace | April 13, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Wow Ted, you really hate this guy, how long did it take you to write this essay? Maybe you should go work for Hillary, she can need guys who dont have a social life and can devote all their time to her. Dude, you really should start with a hobby or something do get your life inspired. Its guys like you who will snipe the president they dont like, you scare me man,hahahaha.
Posted by: Berannie | April 13, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
“losing his cool”? You wish! He is the height of cool. He’s laughing at the silliness and genuinely outraged at the hypocrisy in Hillary’s phony attacks.
Posted by: Ruth | April 13, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
OBaMA MADE HIS BED.
He already has the usual $50 million a month from the media and educated elite. Why not stay home and shut the f**k up.
Why doesn’t Obama get a miniature David Devall and stick in his pocket and lip-synch and shut the f**k Up?
ONCE THE STOLEN SPEECHES ARE NOT AVAILABLE, OBAMA SPEWS GARBAGE.
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Good Lord! This site is filled with hatemongers. No one can have a discussion with people who spread hate and induendos all over the place. Get a life, people, and educate yourselves on the issues and the candidates. Off I go to other sites where here are intelligent folks. YES!!
Posted by: sandy | April 13, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Yes, Everyone should vote for Bill-Hill so that the republicans will keep the white house in 08! DEMS – If you want to loose, vote Bill-Hill. BUSH/CLINTONS/BUSH/McBUSH FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! YEA…
Next there will be Jeb BUSH and then little “none of your business” chelsea.
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
obama is the main thing wrong with America
Posted by: worldpeace | April 13, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Hillary has done everything…for those who believe fiction and fabricated stories.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Lady do you know how long ago she fired a gun ,Gadssss like many of her stories she just said that is not a factor in this debate.Hahahaha LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Posted by: honest | April 13, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Shame on Obama for blaming “small town America” for not “getting him” and giving him a landslide victory in PA! Obama’s San Francisco donors want to know why Obama is outspending Hillary 5 to 1 in PA and he can’t win! Obama can’t win the big states even with big, big money behind him! What should that be telling his billionaire backers? Listen up elite Democrats, out there on the far, far left, YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH US REGULAR JOE DEMOCRATS!!!! Shame on Obama for thinking we cling to the constitution! Maybe we should cling to the Black Theology tenants of TUCC! Obama will “REWRIGHT” THE CONSTITUTION!
Posted by: rs | April 13, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Walt- Thanks 4 the links, but at this time and age in my opinion i know who can run this country better. I rather have Hillary who we all know she has made mistakes and blunders but she wasn’t the one that is campaigning for change and hope and new kind of politics. Obama on the other hand claims he is for hope and change and new kind of politics, fighting for middle class Americans and not taking money from corporations, the unifier who we later find out attended a hate filled church with sermons that would make me cringe if i was there. Obama is the one looking down on and insulting middle class Americans because they are religious and use guns as sports. Obama = Arrogance, Obama = Condescending, Obama = Inexperience, Obama = Flip Flopping King, Obama = Double Standard King, Obama = No Vote From Me.
Posted by: Persio | April 13, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Another Xerox moment. (Shame on Her) Does this guy EVER come up with ANYTHING original?
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 13, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Yes this is absurd. ABC you have pushed this to the limit. If you read this blog you can easily see that this is way over the top.
Senseless ranting.
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
GO DEMOCRATS GO!!! self destruct in 3…2…1…
Posted by: tim | April 13, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Obama for the people and by the people. The biggest fiasco made by the media that cannot sustaing itself any longer.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 13, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
SHAME ON YOU, BARACK …
Shame on you and shame on Michelle … !!
Shame on you for thinking you can say anything you want while the rest of America have to apologize for every little thing they may have to say against you.
GROW UP OBAMA .. SHAME ON YOU !!
Posted by: SHAMEONYOUBARACK | April 13, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Take a deap breath and count to 10
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
peace, looking at the faith forum on CNN which McCain has refused to attend, clearly Obama is the real hope for America and the world, he is the only one who can reestablish America’s reputation and lesdership in the world. Hill the Bosnian General is really a waste of time, she has to continue to put together 109 millions and go back home. But support Obama to beat McCain as a drum in November 2008. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
go democrats go!!! self desr
tuct in 3…2…1…
Posted by: tim | April 13, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
“Obama concluded that these are the types of things people are frustrated about, “things haven’t changed. And of course you’re frustrated about that. Of course you’re bitter about that.”
There he goes again, telling us what we are.
he told us what are problems were over and over and over, until we believed him.
he told us who was to blame, over and over and over, until we believed him.
He told “we could change government” over and over and over until we believed.
He told us “He was the only one who could do it” over and over and over until we believed.
Now he is telling us over and over and over again we are bitter. LOL
his slogans, his catch phrases, his motivational speeches. throw in some religion and act like he cares and can relate to us.
That is exactly what Hitler did to the German people.
That is exactly what Jim Jones did to get followers.
Sorry Mr Obama, We are not bitter
We are how ever Feed up with your games.
Feed up with your mind manipulation, your brainwashing our youth.
We do not believe your the one. Well we Know your not the one.
We Know anyone can be president, Anyone one is as good or better to fix things than you are.
You Gave the American people a rude awakening, when you sold them out to the rich and elite in San Fransisco.
I think we will get clingy with our votes. cling to them so hard, to make sure you do not get any of them. Since you have proven many times you do not deserve them.
We take Pride in our Faith, every day. We do not need to cling to it. For it is a part of our daily lives. We have morals and scruples, something you need to get.
Guns we are avid hunters, Nothing beat venison steak. It is food that is not force feed chemicals to grow.
Dear Mr Obama you are arrogant, egotistical you think you are better than us. When you are not.
You are the bitter one. After listening to Rev Wright for years. And Michelle not ever being Proud. I am sure your head is spinning.
Some Advice for you mr Obama, take some time to get over yourself. Because we have, there is nothing about you to believe in, Absolutely Nothing!
You are a scam artist.
You cheated people out of their vote, shame they can’t sue you for it.
Posted by: DownWithTheScammer | April 13, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Maybe he should have used the same description of Pa. as he did with Kenya in his speech to the University of Nairobi. “I discovered the warmth and sense of community that the people of Kenya possess-their sense of hopefulness even in the face of great difficulty.” Guess they aren’t bitter!!!
Posted by: JG | April 13, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Hillary is history…How long will she stay in the race to only help McCain? Shame on her after the whole Dems took a beating from the GOP to save “I did not….Ms Lewinsky”.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
I am so glad Mr. Obama finally is speaking up for himself. He has let Hill/Billy and McTroll get away with too many slams. I like the way he took the blame for his OWN words quickly. It sounds like the people on this site would rather have a LIAR for president than someone that can own up to his own mistakes.
BTW – he should not have to apologize for another’s words… You can’t even control your own childs words in public. How can you hold someone accountable for another grown man’s words.
GObama 08!!!
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Everyone forgets about Vince Foster. Mr. Foster and Hillary had a very close relationship. What did this decent man know that would bring him to taking his own life? I can only imagine the pain his wife must suffer seeing Hillary in her current pursuit. Yup, shame on Hillary!!!!!!!! Vince, may your rest in peace!
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Obama,
It is the content you said, not the words you chose that expose yourself. Now you get caught in red hands revealing your true self. You are the one who should know better the meaning of ‘cling’. You are the Senior Lecturer of law afterall.
You are the one who looks stupid in a bowling alley. You look like an angry wolf.
Folks, you haven’t seen the end of this king-size hypocrites yet. His lies were well-planned. That is why he scores well with fools like Ted Kenneday.
Obama means to mislead you that the issue is bitterness; not the relationship he refers to with churches and guns.
He believes that he could be wrong. It is just words that people mishear. His message is astonishingly contemptible.
He challenges the Clintons of the tax return and make implications. Now it is time he should apologize. He is so filled with greed, hatred and fear of getting caught. Anything that he does wrong is the mistake of the others who don’t understand him.
He is a spoiled kid who do not know how to apologize for his wrong doings.
People don’t go to church and guns just because of economic situations. It is their culture. Obama wouldn’t care. As far as he is concerned, everyone should bow to him and pamper him to support his Elitist ego. Every thing should be at his disposal to serve the demeaning purpose of getting elected.
Obama has ties with the Chicago politics which show nothing but decency. How can you expect him to change Washington by bring in his friends.
What a disaster would it be!
Posted by: John_Lai | April 13, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
If Obama gets the democratic nod, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE I WILL BE VOTING A REPUBLICAN FOR PRESIDENT
Posted by: satish | April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Ted,
I love your “laundry list”! May I copy it so I can share with others?
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Shame on you obama. Shame on you!
Posted by: Jill | April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
If Obama thinks I am going to stop my
quest for World Peace because he said
“shame on her” he has a lot to learn!!!
No way Obama!!!!!!
Step down!!!
Posted by: joseph | April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
This is the second time I have heard obama use the “shame” word attacking whites frankly. The first was in hurricaine katrina when he looked right into the camera and said shame to the country I suppose, and he said it several times. Am not a hillary or mccain supporter but am now seeing a side of obama that isn’t inviting at all.
Posted by: Brian | April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
I don’t blame Barack Obama. It is understandable to be envy of a woman, with charisma, a fighter and effective. Where Barack Obama comes from, women have not saying, Oh! Bow onto you. That may work in Kenya or Michele but doesnt work with the outstanding women in America. Who will envy Barack Obama? Fortunately not too many.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 13, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
SHAME ON YOU HILL and BILL, putting together 109 million when working FAMILIES in Pen ARE STRUGGLING THROUGH WBUSUH ECONOMIC RECESSION. Shame on Hill the Bosnina General for mischaractezing Obama’s words. Obama is the only one who can reestablish America’s ledership in the world and get the economy back on track. God bless Obama and Gd bless America. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Obama is simply embarassing – he is
not helping this country…
Posted by: billy | April 13, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
SHAME ON YOU HILL and BILL, putting together 109 million when working FAMILIES in Pen ARE STRUGGLING THROUGH WBUSH ECONOMIC RECESSION. Shame on Hill the Bosnina General for mischaractezing Obama’s words. Obama is the only one who can reestablish America’s ledership in the world and get the economy back on track. God bless Obama and Gd bless America. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
The above is exactly what Obama said. Does this means Obama supports trade agreements like NAFTA and China?
The worst part is he says this in California behind closed door in front of few hundred millionaries. Is this what Obama calls as hope and unity?
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
vote for Obama is a voye for Hamas! Aljezira reported in Gaza hamas is supprting Obma , March 31st 2008!Also a terrorist is afndraiser for Obama!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/04/islamic-terrori.html
Posted by: David Star | Apr 13, 2008 8:38:29 PM
David Star,
I’ve met a few ignorant people in my life, but this comment takes the cake. All due respect, or as much as I can give an uneducated moron like yourself. I think you need to go to the rest room, cause the crap is coming out of your mouth instead of your behind! People are more educated then to fall for your fear Hamas crap. That equal to me telling everyone that people told me you were gay…any truth to that?
Posted by: Do the right thing | April 13, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
McCain/Clinton ’08!!!
Sounds like the GOP ticket to me, otherwise why would they be in collusion right now?
Posted by: RyanW | April 13, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Many racialphobes use the “shame”
word!
Obama is a loser.
Posted by: rij | April 13, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Shame on you ABC for blocking the truth about Obama, and approving all of this racist BS on your comment section.
Posted by: Walt | April 13, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Hillery =liar=thief=in the case of white water=criminal
Posted by: davis | April 13, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Listening to the entirety of the compassion forum tonight, it became clear what an incredible disservice television media does to the political process. The responses were so rich and full, and yet CNN is focusing 90% of coverage on the “is Obama an elitist?” question. Meanwhile, Americans and the rest of the world want to hear about the economy, Iraq, Darfur, etc. etc. Obama is brilliant, a visionary, and most importantly, honest and honorable. Clinton was a role model for me, but she thinks that you don’t need to act ethically in the fight; the end justifies the means. Well, the means are important. They’ve inspired me to participate in the political process for the first time in my life, and Obama’s example has inspired me to choose for the greater good in my own actions. I pray he wins.
Posted by: Jennifer | April 13, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
OBAMA IS A RACIST!
Posted by: Jill | April 13, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Finally we are so proud that Barack called this eternal compulsory liar for what she is. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY FOR RUNNING AROUND TELLING LIES, JUST LIKE YOUR HUSBAND. Hillary supporters are mad, because the truth hurts them. HILLARY THE LIAR!!!
Posted by: PA women | April 13, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Ted, thanks for promoting my Laundry List Of Lies – it has over 100K hits on google so far!
Don’t you worry disbelievers, I have managed to find factual sources for EVERY SINGLE LIE IN THIS LIST. And believe me, if you think it hasn’t shifted some folks off the Kool-Aid, or Crack-Aid as I think it has come, just keep googling and seeing how many people, agreeing or not, have seen the list. It is having an effect because it is true. That is the part these catatonic Scientologists in drag can’t stand – the fact they are wrong, he IS a liar, and that he will NEVER win this election.
If you think I am nuts, consider this:
With the lovefest, almost free ride Obama has gotten, Wright swept under the rug, Meeks forgotten, American Terrorist Ayers, Hamas, NAFTA lies, all covered up so most Americans DON’T know about all the rest – WHY DOES HE NOT HAVE A HUUUUGGGGEEEE LEAD OVER MCCAIN?
How can he be struggling BEFORE EVEN ONE NEGATIVE COMMERCIAL HAS RUN?
Can you imagine, if he is struggling THIS HARD after such an easy Press Ride, can you imagine what is going to happen to this candy-ankled, creased-pants sissy once the Billions of Republican Cash Clowns get started on him, not to mention the 527s? He won’t need to be swift boated, they have him pinned to the mat before the second week.
He can’t win. Period. And every lie in that list is true, sourced, and unconquerable.
Posted by: 2009 | April 13, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
OBAMA IS A SELF-RIGHTEOUS, CONDESCENDING, ELITIST FOOL WHO NEVER APOLOGIZES FOR ANYTHING
IF HE MAKES MISTAKES, WE GET TO BE BULLIEDD BY THIS GUY
HILLARY WASNT IN SAN FRANCISCO WITH THE GETTYS COLLECTING MILLIONS TO FORCE-FEED US OBAMA.
APOOGIZE TO SMALL TOWN AMERICA, OBAMA.
QUIT BULLYING HILARY CLINTON FOR YOUR MISTAKES.!!!\
HILLARY IS NOT YOUR MOTHER THAT SHOULD “KNOW” AND “UNDERSTAND” WHAT OBAMA MEANT–RACIST PIG!!
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
BKMC – Do not forget Obama made more than a million last year and will make more than 3 million the year to come. Thanks to losers like you who have bought his books. He lives in a $1.4M mansion and claims to be serving the poor in south chicago. His pastor who again raises against poverty seems to enjoy a $1.6M mansion.
Obama will end up making 10 times more than the clintons when he gets to their age.
So wake up.
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Obama says people in small-towns are bitter. He said: “So it’s not surprising then, that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who are not like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment, as a way to explain their frustrations.” It was only after statements by Clinton and McCain that Obama conceded his comments this weekend were indeed ill-chosen. Let’s see how this plays out on the related issues, i.e., Obama wants to get rid of gun ownership, he supports immigration, he voted to expand trade/NAFTA, and what does he plan to do about the religion that people clinging to and what does this have to do with his candidacy?
Posted by: Terri | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
for all you stupid ass people that don’t live in pa you should have no right to comment on what obama said. I have lived here all my life and yes we’ve lost jobs homes due to the clinton adminstration and nafta. So bitter damn right i am and gun toting I’m not but I sure wish I had one to show you stupid ssses what is is like to see people in small town pa lose jobs and houses. The dirty millions the clintons make should be donated to the homeless jobless people that live here. If you don’t live here don’t judge our state!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Brenda | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I want a president I can respect and
trust – sadly I cannot vote for Mr. Obama.
Posted by: kathi | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
for all you stupid ass people that don’t live in pa you should have no right to comment on what obama said. I have lived here all my life and yes we’ve lost jobs homes due to the clinton adminstration and nafta. So bitter damn right i am and gun toting I’m not but I sure wish I had one to show you stupid ssses what is is like to see people in small town pa lose jobs and houses. The dirty millions the clintons make should be donated to the homeless jobless people that live here. If you don’t live here don’t judge our state!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Brenda | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
On the lighter side, neither candidate said they thought God was on their side tonight.
Obama did get a well round of applause when asked about Rev Wright and the Gaffe on the bitterness thing. This in PA yet.
I thought both candidates came off well.
Did anyone else happen to watch this important forum?
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Why didn’t the DNC run Harold Ford Jr. if they wanted to run a “black guy” against the first woman? Why did they run two “firsts” anyway? Oh yeah, Hillary and Bill are not part of the ELITE CROWD!!!!
Posted by: rs | April 13, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Current polls show McCain(46.4%) Clinton (43.3%) or McCain(45.4%) Obama (44.1%) well if 20% of Clinton voters move to McCain or 20% of Obama voters move to McCain then the race is over and all this fighting is basically for nothing. You can’t win with these odds. What needs to change is the Democrat Party. You are all over the place and you’ll defect the minute you don’t get your way. The whole thing is a shame and it’s not Hilliary’s fault. It’s not Barack’s fault. It’s your fault for belonging to such a stupid party. United we stand, divided we fall. Hey democrats…you’re falling!
Posted by: Hmmmm | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
How insulting is it to voters in PA and across the nation that Hillary Clinton believes (or wants people to believe) that they don’t comphrehend what Obama really meant by his statements. The Clintons treat the voters as if they are a bunch of dumb hillbillies that need them [the Clintons] to translate what Obama means by his comments. Who’s insulting the voters — someone that talks to people as if they are intelligent adults that can comphrehend what is being said, like Obama does? Or someone that talks to them like they are a bunch of 5th graders?
Posted by: Mike - WA | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
What is to be proud of Barack Obama? Hope Rev Wright forgives his sins. Can evil ever be forgiven? Barack Obama is already a fallen angel.
Posted by: Josephm | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Hillary second home town news paper
endorses Obama.
Yeah she understands there is no bitter people.
Everything is coming up ROSES.
Only if you are an ELITIST MILLIONAIRE.
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Clinton is done, why does she continue? VP ambitions…
McCain/Clinton ’08!!!
The Great White Hope!
Posted by: RyanW | April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Hillary is running for McCain at this time. They share the same Fox News. They rely on Rush Limbaugh to save the day. They use the same playbook to launch some dirty attacks. They praise each other for telling all sorts of fabricated stories that they are telling. No wonder they voted together for the war.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I want a president I can respect and
trust – sadly I cannot vote for Mr. Obama.
Posted by: kathi | April 13, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
2009,
I’m sorry, I thought that was Teds so I’ll ask you. May I post your list at the Hillary Clinton Forum? Please? It’s great!
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 13, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Hillary is a lying NUT, who’s delusional do YOU understand?
Is she on Meds?
Posted by: Sulli | April 13, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
More vomit spewing from BHS I see..
Go away now please Obama, you are stinking up the place
Posted by: Vickie | April 13, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I cling to religion: each night I
pray Obama will shut up!
Posted by: kathi | April 13, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Brian,
What Obama was saying shae to during Katrina was the slow response of our federal government to its people in need. People actually died because of lack of water and food. This is our commander and chief first priority is the American people. He failed them and his administration failed the people of Katrina and that is a shame. Don’t be misled by McCain and Hillary’s political machine and be carried away. Obama, has what this country needs to turn it around before these career politicians ruin it with their incompetence and greed.
Posted by: Do the right thing | April 13, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Time to abandon Barack Obama. When he starts loosing everything he will automatically concede. That time is already here. Watch !
Posted by: Michel56 | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Obama’s campaign is hurting this great
nation of ours… His hypocrisy is
sickening.
Posted by: tina | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Obama’s point was that people are angry when they see two parties collecting lobbyist money, and then lying to people about not only what they are going to do, but what they have already done.
Some of the Clinton supporters here are willing to excuse her deceits on NAFTA and Bosnia, and her double-dealing and hypocritical attacks on Columbia, but can’t excuse her opponent for saying a truth, but saying it awkwardly. He wasn’t being elitist, he was being honest.
As for who is going to leave the party, I suggest the Clinton camp remember that Bill nearly destroyed the Democratic party in his first effort to cling to power, that the Clintons openly view any opponent as a traitor, and that they truly offer only more of the same lobbyist-run government we’ve seen too much of in the last decade. For everyone threatening to leave Obama for McCain, I suggest you remember that Obama has a dozen new voters who will also vote McCain, or worse, just stay home.
No more dynasties.
Posted by: drew | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
BARACK OBAMA IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT.
I WOULDNT VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON AS IT IS CLEAR THAT NO WOMAN IS ABLE TO HANDLE THE JOB OF PRESIDENT IN A TIME OF WAR.
VOTE OBAMA
Posted by: PeoplePowerPerson | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
SNOBAMA : VOTE FOR ME, YOU CORNCOB-SMOKIN, BANJO-STROKIN, CHICKEN CHOKIN, COUSIN-POKIN, GUN TOTIN, BIBLE THUMPIN,INBRED HILLBILLY, RACIST, MORON……YEP HE SURE HAS MY VOTE ! IF ANYONE ELSE IN MODERN POLITICS INSINUATED WHAT OBAMA DID IN HIS SPEECH IN ELITIST SAN FRANCISCO,THEY WOULD BE OUT OF THE RACE AND THE SENATE…..SOMETHING SMELLS REALLY BAD.
Posted by: BUCKSLIN711 | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
HILARY LOVES GUNS? WHEN WILL SHE STOP! THIS IS CRAZY SHE IS MAKING HERSELF LOOK LIKE A MONKEYS BUTT!
SHE IS GOING DOWN AND FAST..LOL
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Mike-WA and Josephm, Hillary is concerned about her 109 million and you are suffering. Do you want this to continue, poor people’s jobs being shipped out to Colombia for 800 000 for Bill Clinton. Wake-up America. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 13, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I guess that means no. None of you watched to see ghow his or her’s candidate did.
I guess that means is that all of you sat here and threw insults at each other instead of trying learn how they stand on religion in politics, that so many of you like to throw around.
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
RossiMas – NO ONE envys Hillary. She is a bold faced liar. What is amazing is how she has dupped you into following her! If it’s because you are a woman… that should not be the only reason. Her 35 years of experience are a sham and she is ONLY where she is because of her name recognition from being first lady. If that is her experience than the W.H. maid and driver should be able to claim that same experience… Truth is I’d vote for one of them befre I’d EVER vote for Hillary and Bill again. EVER!!! Why do you want liars, cheats and theives in the whilte house again? THINK – THINK – THINK. She is not the woman for the the white house. Sure, we will have a woman there one day, but she is the WRONG ONE for the job.
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Does anyone remember all the good candidates that the dems started with? Some with tangible experience and foreign policy/relations experience. The ones that would have clobbered ANY of the republican candidates in the general? The media didn’t pick them though – they weren’t as ratings friendly as Obama. Although they don’t really report in depth on Obama’s controversies it sure has been entertaining watching them (with the exception of Fox) exalt this man to being able to walk on water status. Too bad for them he is now sinking. As will their ratings here shortly. When Obama is out of the picture, who will be left watching MSNBC? The wives of all their “top notch” reporters and commentaries is probably all that’s left.
Posted by: John | April 13, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Corrected:BHS=BHO
More vomit spewing from BHO I see..
Go away now please Obama, you are stinking up the place
Posted by: Vickie | April 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
All politicians are corrupt and I prefer to vote for someone whom I know rather than someone I knew very little.
It is easy to say I am not corrupt .. but we all know how politics works.
Wake up OBAMA supporters.
Posted by: GS | April 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
…. and in this corner we have Annie Oakley….. and in the other corner we have Calypso Louie…..
Posted by: petee | April 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Bill Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991: “The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death.” Sounds like those economically depressed people may have been bitter or frustrated –even back then.
Posted by: SD TRUTH | April 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
All of you haters will obviously want Mccain, who owns 8 houses and has lobbyists travelling in his campaign bus and Hillary Clinton who actually is the biggest benficiary of lobbyist money.
They are of course close to your so called pathetic small town values which elected jerks like Bush. Go ahead and rant. The fact is America is smarter than that.
Whatever Obama is, if you want to call him an elitist then so be it, he is still the most able to solve the problems of this country and that is what counts.
Go and shoot a Deer.
Posted by: Venkat | April 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh VICKIE
is Hillary gonna lose
PA. voters know.
Things are not as ROSIE for them in Pa.
ELITE CLINTON’S EVERYTHING IS ROSIE WITH THEIR 109 MILLIONS.
OH DO NOT FORGET TO ADD 800,000.00 FOR SELLING OUT AMERICAN JOBS.
HEY VICKIE WHAT IF YOUR JOB AND HOME ARE NEXT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK??
THEN WILL YOU WANT HIM TO JUST SHUT UP???
NAAH
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Hi Brenda, the NAFTA was put in place by the Reagan administration, and Congress passed it. Then Bill Clinton signed it, rather than go against Congress and veto it. The predominate economic studies of the Nafta free trade plan were all showing that this would improve the US economy. Hindsight is 20/20 and Hillary has stated she wants to fix Nafta for the American people. She has voted against NAFTA expansion. Unfortunately Obama is the one who still is voting to expand NAFTA as recently as 2007.
Posted by: Terri | April 13, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Good Lord. The Hillary Trolls are drooling at the mouth tonight. They are pitiful little creatures aren’t they. Sitting on blog bridges waiting for someone to come by.
They have their little comments all typed out in word so they can cut and paste them into the MSM websites and blogs. They are sad. Crazy, and Scary.
Good away…
Geesh. Get a life!
Posted by: Dancing Angel | April 13, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
I really can’t understand why anyone would continue to “cling” to Obama. Maybe we can wean you folk off this crutch.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Apr 13, 2008 8:45:45 PM
The reason you don’t get Obama is that you have been hoodwink, run amuck and bamboozeled by the likes of Clinton, Bush/McCain. You won’t get what Obama is talking about until your behind is out of a job because its been shipped to China or Columbia. You won’t get what he’s talking about until your child has an illness and you don’t have insurance, you won’t get what he’s talking about until you have to use your car as a paper weight because you can’t afford gas. You will get what he’s talking about when you vote for Hillary or McCain and they get in the whitehouse and they forget they ever appealed for your vote and its politics as usual.
Posted by: Do the right thing | April 13, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
I live in Fla .I want one of you Obamite to dispute this. Against rules obama ran tv ads approx 7 times a day on MSNBC & CNN the worst thing is he repeatedly says he didn’t campaign in Fla. Please stay on subject. I don’t expect an answer.
Posted by: roncraw | April 13, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
gS ,
WOW THATS A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO TAKE WELL I KNOW HILARY IS FULL OF CRAP AND HAS LIED AND HAS HAD TO RE-INVENT HERSELF A FEW TIMES AND SURE SHE REFUSED TO FIGHT FOR A BILL THAT WOULD HELP CHILDREN BECAUSE SHE SAID IT WOULDNT PASS BUT AT LEAST I KNOW SHE IS A LOSER WHAT ABOUT THIS GUY WE DONT KNOW IF HE CAN DO AS BAD A JOB LETS GO WITH HILARY! WOW
I WOULD RATHER TAKE A CHANCE AND BE WRONG THEN GO INTO IT KNOWING THAT IM GOING TO GET IT IN THE BACK!
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
I expect idiot responses from GOP lifers, but to see Clintonites not understand Obama’s comments (really the arguments of Thomas Frank in “Whats the Matter With Kansas”) is disheartening. Wake up, people are pissed off because politicians do not listen to them. When that happens, they begin to vote based on traditions they cling to instead of in their economic best interest. The challenge of any politician, especially a Democratic one is to change that dynamic.
Hillary and her supporters bloodthirsty pouncing on these comments and the twisting logic that follows is embarassing to our party.
Posted by: RyanW | April 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
No more votes for Hillary Clinton. She’s just not good.
Posted by: New Yorker | April 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Shame on you, Barack.
You are no Messiah and you are NO ANGEL sent from God.
SHAME ON YOU, OBAMA, IF YOU THINK NOONE COULD SAY ANYTHING AGAINST YOU …
WE ARE NOT CNN OR MSNBC, WE ARE NOT YOUR ANGELIC CHOIR SINGING YOUR PRAISES …
GROW UP, OBAMA … SHAME ON YOU
Posted by: NotYourChoirObama | April 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
OBAMA,
You chose the words exactly you want. You have been so eloquent. You try to impress the fundraisers, the billionaires for their money. There is no problem for you to throw some real people in Pennsylvania under the bus in the process.
Politicians don’t always tell the truth. This time, Hillary doesn’t say a word which isn’t true about you. Now you find yourself get shot in your feet, and your feet in your mouth. You were mad.
You answer is ‘Shame on her. She knows better’ Knowing what you said is shame and doing what you have done is outrageous. There is no misunderstanding. It is an excellent choice of words that reflect your attitude on the pretext of throwing Pennsylvania working class under the bus to appeal to billionaires. You cannot face yourself and you cannot face the nation that you might be wrong. You have the potential of being a global disaster.
Should you get elected, your pride and prejudices would lead this nation to a crash course and your followers, specially the black, over 90% of them, would take the blame for you. From then on, American is nothing but hell.
Posted by: John_Lai | April 13, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
…and the line between “Clinton Supporter” and “McCain Supporter” continues to evaporate.
Posted by: RyanW | April 13, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
AHHHHHH Lauren
ANYBODY and I do mean ANYBODY except BHO ..*looks around* where is Ross Perot anyway???
Posted by: Vickie | April 13, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
THINKING
I watched it. Hillary pandered to the women..Her favorite biblical was Ester…She stated she would love to learn more about her.. Sure she does …she seen the latest poll white woman are going for Barack. I counted 4 statements where i believe she was pandering. Did you see the same thing?
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The irony of this whole situation is that Obama was, in fact, far from elitism when speaking frankly about the situation. He trusted the people to understand the comments, and to notice that he was not saying guns/religion/antipathy were terrible, but that they were not the answers to the failures of government. But apparently that trust was misplaced.
Those who say that Hillary is nothing but a self-interested power-monger and that Obama hates America are equally misguided. It’s pretty obvious that shadowy “Muslim takeovers” and the idea that Hillary will become President to serve corporations are, frankly, wrong. They both want to serve America. They have different ideas of how to do so. At this point, the adolesence of the media, candidates, and voters has so shrouded those ideas that it may be best for each to step down.
Posted by: Casey | April 13, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Good for Obama. It is high time for him to take off the gloves and blast Hillary Clinton her for phoney stances and lies.
Leon
Posted by: Leon | April 13, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
OBAMA has fueled so much division within the Democratic party itself and he thinks he can unite America …?
He cannot even unite the Democrats for crying out loud …
Go back to Illinois, Obama and grow up …
We DONT WANT YOU as our President. In how many ways can we say that?
Posted by: GoBackToIllinois | April 13, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Since the DNC still seems behind this stupid man. The Dem’s sure do love backing losers lately. I guess this is their way to show the Clintons. But obama will lose magnificently to McClain in the GE.
Posted by: toby | April 13, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
OH PLEASE HILARY CARES ABOUT PEOPLES JOBS? NAFTA , TRAVELING STAFF, BUFFALO, AND TALKING CRAP TO THE LITTLE PEOPLE IS WHAT SHE DOES, I JUST READ THAT SHE TOLD A STATE TROOPER THAT WAS PAID TO KEEP HER SAFE TO SHUT UP AND DO HIS GOD **** JOB! BUT YOUR RIGHT SHE IS JUST LIKE US…
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
How ’bout in November there’s a line on the ballot for “none of the above”!!
Posted by: petee | April 13, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Obama is not an angel but a man, God forgives sins not Revs. or men of the cloth. The Clintons are liars who have backstabbed so many people in Ark. that they can no longer live there. The ooze with degust, she would seel Bill and or her daughter to get into the white house. It’s great that she’s staying in the race, so everyone can see what a genuine lying head case she is. The more she talks the more she lies. No wonder Bill went after all of those other women, even he got tired of his lying Power hungry wife!
Posted by: Jo Ann | April 13, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
obama is a racist hatemonger.
Posted by: Jill | April 13, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Much of what Barak said is true; however, it was highly impolitic for him to have said it. I’m afraid this is going to hurt him, although I hope not enough to let Shrillary have a big win in Pennsylvania.
Posted by: katya | April 13, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
We all know, or should, that Obama is NOT the right choice for this country. Personally neither is Clinton or even McCain. I want the real truth and real promise that this country will get back on its feet, get back to it’s values, ethics, and most of all, morals so that we won’t be at a standstill that other countries see that we are.
Posted by: Kristin from TX | April 13, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
[law enforcement in Ohio? No wonder Obama lost]
A highway patrolman who was photographed in a handmade Ku Klux Klan costume while on duty the day before the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday has been suspended without pay, authorities said.
A fellow trooper who transmitted the cell-phone photo of white-masked lawman has been demoted.
Craig Franklin, a 12-year veteran of the Ohio Highway Patrol, is pictured in the January 20 photo with a white cone on his head, white paper mask and a white cloth covering his shoulders, according to a highway patrol report.
Franklin is otherwise in trooper uniform. A handgun holster, a radio normally issued by the patrol and other police equipment can be seen in the photo, the report said.
None of the 13 troopers assigned to the Sandusky post are black.
Posted by: Sheeza Lyer | April 13, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Obama is unelectable period. So if liberal elitist dems pick him, then mccain will slaughter him.
Dems are incredibley dumb to vote for this guy
Posted by: Eddie | April 13, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Shame on Clinton!? I say shame on O’bama. The juxtaposition of the words “religion” and “guns” in O’bama’s subliminal slip is a cause for grave concern. If a politician is talking about avoiding gun controls he or she will most likely be a Republican and, therefore, less likely to be Black. Further, if a politician is considered a right-wing religious extremist he is most likely a Republican and again most likely White. Thus, O’bama’s subliminal slip confirms my belief that he is a Black Nationalist and was referring to Whites when he spoke of people clinging to religion or guns. He has supported a Church for 20 years that takes its vision statement from Dr. James Cone who wrote: “The black theologian must reject any conception of God . . . as a God of all peoples. . . Black Theology is the theological arm of Black Power, and Black Power is the political arm of Black Theology.” In contrast, Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote: “Beneath all the satisfaction of a gratifying slogan, Black Power is a nihilistic philosophy born out of the conviction that the Negro can’t win. It was born from the wounds of despair and disappointment . . . In the final analysis, the weakness of Black power is its failure to see that the Black man needs the White man and the White man needs the Black man.” If O’bama beats Clinton then I will simply vote for McCain – even though it will be the first time in my life I have voted for a Republican presidential candidate.
Posted by: ShelbyBob35051 | April 13, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Drew: The only other Democratic president we have had in the last 30 years other than Bill Clinton is Hamas loving Jimmy Carter! Maybe you weren’t born yet, but things were pretty darn good economically during the Clinton years! Hillary has withstood the big pile on of Republican swiftboating and Ken Starr tactics. She and Bill survived. Obama is the liar. POLIITICS OF CHANGE!!!Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,IT’S POLITICS OF THE BILLIONAIRES!!!!Ha,ha,ha,ha, AND HE STILL CAN’T GET TO 2025 TO WIN THE NOMINATION!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Shame on Obama for putting down a former president and first lady!!!
Posted by: rs | April 13, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
THIS LISTED DOWN BELOW, IS THE COMPANY OBAMA WAS KEEPING WHEN HE STARTED CALLING COMMON FOLKS “GUN-TOTTING,” RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS WHO ARE BITTER.
THE MEDIA WAS BANNED SO HE WAS IN GOOD COMPANY AND COULD INSULT ANYONE.
OBAMA GOT CAUGHT!!!
FESS UP !!!
APOLOGIZE, NOT CALL HILLARY NAMES.
HERE IS THE LIST:
Norman Stone, heir to insurance tycoon
Peter Haus, Levi Strauss heir, Levi holdings were valued in a news report at $2.2 billion.
Peter Sperling, U. of Phoenix heir, In 2003 he had about $1.5 billion.
Larry Ellison, Oracle founder, In 2003 Forbes set his worth at $18 billion.
Gordon Getty, Getty Oil heir, In 2003 Forbes Magazine estimated his fortune at $2.1 billion.
George Jewett, Weyerhaeuser heir,
THE WHITEHOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER!!!
Posted by: TJ | April 13, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Shame on Hillary and Bill. Thank goodness some one said it out loud! No more Clintons in the w.h. There is a 23rd amendment for a reason. No THIRD TERMS for you two… Enough is enough!
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Obama is unelectable period. So if liberal elitist dems pick him, then mccain will slaughter him.
Dems are incredibley dumb to vote for this guy
Posted by: Eddie | April 13, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Food fight!!!
Posted by: petee | April 13, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Hillary will endorse McCain. They have everything in common. They voted for the war together and they will outsource all jobs with all kind of foreign treaties. McCain lobbied for a huge air force contract to be awarded to the Frenchs instead of the US Boeing. Hillary wants to shift the remaining blue collars jobs from PA to Colombia. Dream ticket? McCain/Hillary 08.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
GOOD FOR BARACK! Enough is enough. The Press should be shouting that Hillary is just trying to divert attention from her own lies. I’m glad to see Obama stand up and say what most people are feeling!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 13, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT THE LYING CLINTONS!!!
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Well old Rocky Hillary hit below the belt again while her handers, Billie Boy and Mark Penn are picking up big bucks outside the ring with the Columbia bookies….
Posted by: Ken Wooden | April 13, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
About time Obama call Hillary out on the political pandering she’s been doing for months.
She not only dodged sniper fire, but apparently can wield a shotgun pretty well herself.
She surprisingly hasn’t played the victim/sexism card yet, so I’m guessing we’ll see that about 3-5 days before the election, because that’s always good for a few last minute votes.
We’re almost there, folks. The Clintons keep destroying more and more of their legacy the longer this goes on. And my bet is this will have left such a horrible taste in people’s mouths that Hillary is defeated if she runs for re-election. These people shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near our government. It’s this type of politics that has gotten us in this mess to begin with.
Posted by: JW | April 13, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
CLINTONS THEME SONG, BY DIDO
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m A CLINTON and always will be
I know I left too much mess and
destruction to come back again
And I caused nothing but trouble
I understand if you can’t talk to me again
And if you live by the rules of “it’s over”
then I’m sure that that makes sense
I will go down with this ship
And I won’t put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I’m A CLINTON and always will be
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
As C.Bernstein says…does anyone really want the Clinton Circus back on the national and international scene?… where did gun toting Hilary come from?
Posted by: J.Pyrch | April 13, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
I AM BITTER
I AM BITTER
HILLARY WILL NEVER BE BITTER UNLESS HER AND BILL GO BANKRUPT
THE ELITIST MILLIONAIRE FORGETS IF SHE EVERY DID KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE WHEN YOUR GOOD PAYING , HEALTH INS. GOES
OVERSEA OR SOUTH. AND YOU STRUGGLE TO FIND A JOB THAT PAYS MORE THAN A MINIMUM WAGE. WOULD YOU LIKE FIES WITH THAT BURGER?
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Shame on Clinton!? I say shame on O’bama. The juxtaposition of the words “religion” and “guns” in O’bama’s subliminal slip is a cause for grave concern. If a politician is talking about avoiding gun controls he or she will most likely be a Republican and, therefore, less likely to be Black. Further, if a politician is considered a right-wing religious extremist he is most likely a Republican and again most likely White. Thus, O’bama’s subliminal slip confirms my belief that he is a Black Nationalist and was referring to Whites when he spoke of people clinging to religion or guns. He has supported a Church for 20 years that takes its vision statement from Dr. James Cone who wrote: “The black theologian must reject any conception of God . . . as a God of all peoples . . . Black Theology is the theological arm of Black Power, and Black Power is the political arm of Black Theology.” In contrast, Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote: “Beneath all the satisfaction of a gratifying slogan, Black Power is a nihilistic philosophy born out of the conviction that the Negro can’t win. It was born from the wounds of despair and disappointment . . . In the final analysis, the weakness of Black power is its failure to see that the Black man needs the White man and the White man needs the Black man.” If O’bama beats Clinton then I will simply vote for McCain – even though it will be the first time in my life I have voted for a Republican presidential candidate.
Posted by: ShelbyBob35051 | April 13, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
I saw and I thought overall she did very well. I thought she was probably pandering to the women on that portion also, but she is a politician after all.
Obama also did very well, in his halting stumbling style. True to his form, I thought that he didn’t hold back, and he and Hillary were both well received.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Shame on her? Shame on you Obama for systematiclly hoodwinking the hard working middle class into beleiving you are any different than the next politician. Your smooth talking and salesman like ways may be anticeing, but like cheap perfume it may come in a pretty bottle, but stinks to high heaven. Give us a break. Were not stupid and we can tell when you are being arrogant and condescending. By the way, Hillary doesnt have to be a hunter to deffend ones right to hunt. Stop wasting Americas time and bow out before you divide the party any more. god help us if you get the nomination. There is no way middle America is going to elect someone who questions why blue collar workers “CLING” to guns and religeon.
Posted by: roberincharlotte | April 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Bitter!, bitter!! bitter!!! Hmmmnnnnn!
Its funny to imagine how people view English words…Do you people need an English teacher.
Rural, city, whatever, everyone is bitter. Job are gone, inflation is high, stock market is in chaos…what simple words do you need to describe the world panic, than bitter..
Come on this is 21st century!
Who will tell Americans that the world is bitter about Bush…What happens in USA affects people worldwide and we need a person like Obama to talk fanköy about it. The world is proud of his boldness.
Funny Americans! God bless America and the entire world!
Posted by: Ned Thomas | April 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
OBAMA has destroyed whatever UNITY the Democratic party has had.
He should just pack and go back to the Senate … or to Illinois .. or back to the Rev. Wright for more teaching …
Without Barack in the race, the Democratic Party would be going strong , very strong with Hillary as the nominee.
Barack has destroyed so much with his premature ambitions and high hopes …
The only change Obama wants is that of changing HIM from Senator (that he just got not too long ago ..) to PRESIDENT.
And that for doing NOTHING at all.
How cool is that?
Posted by: HowCoolIsThat | April 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Don’t you love the news media? At the so-called Compassion Forum the candidates spend most of their time talking about issues–poverty, abortion, AIDS, the role of faith in government, etc.–, and when it’s over John King, CNN and the so-called “best political team on television” immediately revert to a long and tedious ‘analysis’ of “bitter.” Hey, we’ve heard it. Wherever we stand on it we’ve heard it from you guys over and over again for the last two days. Let’s get back to the real issues–the Iraq War, health care, poverty, jobs, foreclosures, recession, gas prices and several more. However important ‘bitter’ might be, and whatever any of us as individuals might think it means, you’ve exhausted the issue. You will never convince me it is more important than starving people, people losing their houses, the huge deficit, the way Iraq is sitting on billions of oil money while we bankrupt ourselves to support them, or high gasoline and food prices. There are too many important issues to harp on any single issue over and over day after day.
Posted by: JAB | April 13, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
GREAT JOB OBAMA..POINTING OUT CLINTON LIES!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
HILLARY’S FULL OF IT.
LIAR, LIAR, PANTIES ON FIRE.
CONGENITAL LIAR AND HUSBAND THE RAPIST.
Posted by: Chuck | April 13, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Obama supporters should stop with the moral support they are giving to Hillarys supporters. Hillary and her supporters are losing and its time for the Obama administration to move on with THE PROCESS OF CHANGE.
These ignorant racists that will let symantics (the word bitter)get in the way of fixing the problems that have been created in the last few years are not worth converting . Did not even hear the speech, they let Hillary read it for them, she did not even read the Iraq intel report that she voted on. These Racist ignorant people will accept a proven liar. Let them make up that demographic of losers that every election creates. When you realy think about it, its better to leave them behind for 8 years. It’s the most logical thing to do. These racist are not going to change by november. (Ohio deserves what it gets, 12 years in a row?)Obama could use diplomacy to drop the price of gas to 1.50 gallon and they will still hate him. (you do know 4.00 gallon gas is a punishment to your elected leaders right!!) India and China did not arrive here from mars in 2003. If its an oil shortage why an embargo on the “worlds 2nd largest reserve- iraq – for the last 14 years.
Why, to control the price of gas.
Get these crooks out of politics now!!!
Obama 08
Posted by: tracksta | April 13, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
MELISSA
I AM STILL LAUGHING . but I DON’T THINK SHE KNOWS THE SONG
HOPEFULLY ONE OF HER PAID SUPPORTERS HERE WILL GIVE IT TO HER.
STILL CHUCKLING
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Great that Obama’s taking off the gloves. The difference he won’t have to lie, since the Clintons combine are the biggest lying tag team in political history. Eveb her Washington friends says the two of them are a lying family.
want proof? Listen to them as they were interviewed…..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: Katy C. | April 13, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Know what, Ted? I don’t know where you get your “facts,” but you’ve got way too much time on your hands.
Posted by: KAREN | April 13, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
And by the way, why are the majority of posts on here from the far right and Clinton loyalists? I can’t tell the difference between the two anymore.
Posted by: JW | April 13, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
OBAMA,
You say more than you can admit. It is not only bitterness, but also guns and churches and your image of rural Americans cling to churches and guns.
This image thrown to the billionaires was fabricated by you to please the very rich. Most people go to church and hold guns as a culture, not as frustration. The more frustrated they are, the further they stay away from guns because they know better.
People go to church all the time, the high time and the low tide. You have been wrong. You are still trying to mislead the public under the disguise of bitterness.
Ask the Chicago politicians who would be on trial for corruption soon. You are running away else you would get into mud that you might never get out. That is bitterness. You are running, of course.
Posted by: John_Lai | April 13, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Barack,
Shame on you for saying shame on Hillary. Shame on the Obama zombie nation for not standing up to defend you. Where’s Ted Kennedy, where’s John Kerry, and where’s Chris Dodd when you really need them. And where’s Howard Dean? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoooowwwwwww!
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The Wizard of Obama, shame, shame!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
YES OBAMA MADE HILARY SELL OUT HER PARTY! HE MADE HER PLAY DIRTY HE EVEN MADE HER LIE ABOUT BOSNIA THAT POOR LITTLE DEFENSELESS WOMAN DIDNT WANT TO DO IT! HELP HILARY SHE IS BEING BULLIED AND SHE DOESNT HAVE HER GUN!!!LOL
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Well I thank you all for the wonderful discussion. The important thing here is that you all had time to read your own posts. It is time for me to go earn a living.
I would like to hang around and throw useless insults at one another, but I am on the low end of the income range.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 13, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Hillary couldn’t possibly win in the general election against McCain and McCain can’t possibly win in the general election against Obama. Hence …. President Obama!
Posted by: dgfiit | April 13, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Dear Clinton – ites… Enough of the Lying Clintons. They lie so much and are so good at it that they can convince themselves… so you should not feel bad that they have dupped you too…
Posted by: Hope4All | April 13, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
RUSH LIMBAUGH CROONIES ARE HER TONIGHT.
HILLARY VOTED TO KILL OUR SERVICE PEOPLE
McCAIN VOTED TO KILL OUR SERVICE PEOPLE
END THE WAR SAVE OUR TROOPS.
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Hillary hasn’t said or done anything beside ridicule Obama. And all Obama has done is answer every question.
Question: If I ask Obama questions can I run for president too.
Posted by: Blaine | April 13, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
YES I AM BITTER ABOUT ECONOMY,
RACISM, WAR, LIST GOES ON..BUT I CAN SEE LIGHT FOR A BETTER TOMORROW!!
I WILL SUPPORT OBAMA IN NC!! TRUTH WILL WIN ANY DAY OVER SPINS AND LIES!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
I guess Obama feels that if elected he will fulfill the needs of the embittered poor, for guns and religion.Kind of like the Christ of the Apocalypse.
Posted by: Melissa M | April 13, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
I agree 100% with you Eddie. Obama cannot win. But at this point, strategy is compeltely out the window for the dems, it’s down to an Us and Them attitude. Any idea where the democratic leaders are on this one? My guess is with their head stuck in the sand somewhere, or holed up in their offices hiding in the dark, taking no phone calls because they have no idea what to do. Talk about being out of touch.
Posted by: JKH | April 13, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Watch and listen to the Clintons friends in this interview tell the truth about the Clintons..If you can deal with the truth…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: Katy C. | April 13, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
All the classists, racists and sexists will meet up in Denver in a few months and try to reassure the country that they are the savior of the country. Only a scared and ignorant person could possibly put his or her hope in these two frauds.
Posted by: SEB | April 13, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Watch and listen to the Clinton’s friends in this interview tell the truth about the Clintons..If you can deal with the truth…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: Katy C. | April 13, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I agree 100% with you Eddie. Obama cannot win.-JHL
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HE CANNOT WIN IN YOUR DREAM..LOOSERS!!
In Reality, he is winning Big in every catagory!! GET A LIFE!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
JILL,’
NO ONE BUYS THAT ANYMORE…
HILARY HAS WENT TO THE TRINITY CHURCH BEFORE AND SHE HAS SEEKED OUT THE REV WRIGHT TOO.. SO THAT DOESNT LOOK GOOD FOR HER LET IT GO!
Posted by: melissa | April 13, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
J
She just got out of the boxing ring…
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
HILLARY,
shame on you, Barack will be our next president, go home with bill and destroy the white house with monica lewinsky.
Posted by: anita | April 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
I glad Obama is fighting back
Shame on You Hillary
Using Republican tactics
Shame on You
Great Obama, flip this out on her
Posted by: Vanessa | April 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
HILLARY,
shame on you, Barack will be our next president, go home with bill and destroy the white house with monica lewinsky.
Posted by: anita | April 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
The truth of the matter is Obama was in a private fundraiser in liberal San Francisco that was closed to the media.
I personally can’t believe he would include religion and guns in the same sentence. He said he chose his words badly. This is an understatement. Anyone who is truly religious will find this combination — religion and guns — difficult to comprehend.
I feel sorry for him once Monday comes and the conservative radio and television personalities get their turn on this subject.
Posted by: Benjamin | April 13, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
This is to Judy and others like you. Judy, you sound angry, and I’m not sure why. Is it because your candidate is not ahead? Have you considered that she has not run a very well-planned campaign? Even if you do not support Sen.Obama, you must agree that his campaign has been much smoother. He started with $0 and has raised more than any candidate in history, from more individuals.
Hillary on the other hand started with $25 million from her senate campaign, “Clinton MACHINE” behnd her. Do you ever wonder why that happened, or hold her responsible?
Sen. Obama most likely will not need your vote to become our next president, but I hope you will reconsider giving it to Senator “McBush,” unless you want this war to go on and on and on.
Posted by: karen | April 13, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Well RC, you have your opinion and I have mine. I imagine there will be some polls coming out in the next few days measuring how much damage has been done – maybe that will put some clarity on our opinons. – JKH
Posted by: JKH | April 13, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Ted, you should see someone about your “bitterness”. You are probably one of those crazy Christian, gun-toters Obama was referring to. I think Obama is handling this well. Listen, McCain won’t win. He’s about to be SWIFTBOATED by Vietnam Veterans. Hillary Clinton won’t/can’t even win the nomination. So here’s the deal. Obama is the next President. Let’s all just calm down and grow up. So what he wasn’t as articulate as he usually is. It’s way better than Cheney/Bush. Our country won’t be ruined. If we can make it through the Bush Administration with still having 50 states and only one war, we’ll make it through the Obama Administration too. And, Obama’s a bleeding heart liberal. Don’t we all need a little TLC right now? Truth be told, they’re all politicians. How honest and clean can we expect them to be?
Posted by: Kim | April 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
SCRATON NEWS PAPER HAS ENDORSED BARACK OBAMA.
WELL I GUESS HER SECOND HOME DOES NOT WANT HER HOME.
SHE NEEDS TO TAKE OF THOSE MILLION DOLLAR ROSE COLORED GLASSES!!!!!
SHAME ON YOU HILL SHAME ON YOU
OBAMA08
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
I think that some people don’t like the Clintons because they run a “republican-style” attack campaign at times. Whatever you think of that, it is true that if Senator Obama wants the nomination he needs to be able to fend off these sorts of things. He seems to be getting better at it. If he does get the nomination and wins the general election, he will owe Senator Clinton a debt for improving his debating skills and ability to defend himself.
He’s gotta sink or swim. Seems like he’s still swimming…
Posted by: MIguy | April 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
CNN has plenty of compassion for Obama…
They are praying that you rural hicks in PA will also have compassion for Obama, especially you church going gun nuts.
Obama’s real strength is with the hate America first crowd. The ones that love Chavez and the president of Iran who helped kidnap 52 US diplomats for 444 days back when Jimmy Carter was prez.
I hope you church going gun nuts don’t lose your compassion for Obama. That would be un-American.
Posted by: Lance | April 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
GoHomeObama,
You will not get a job with good Resume with lies and bad attitude!!
It is Character and Judgment Any day!!
OBAMA will GO home to White House in JAN 2009!!
OBAMA08! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
McCain is the next choice behind Hillary. At least this republican is not conventional. He is a straight guy who admits his mistakes fair and square; a man of honor.
Obama, is a crook from Harvard law school. Look at the lies that he made:
1) He filled up a survey form with his own handwriting on it and yet he denies that he has anything to do with it.
2) Go to Factcheck to see his oil spill. 3) The fundraising with the billionaires contradicts his ad of taking money from grass roots not the lobbyists. He has people in that column working for him now.
4) The false ad he put up in order to show NAFTA takes away jobs for a guy who is later found to get a huge compensation from the closing of the company. Employees of that company claims the leave package was the best thing they had in life.
5) He claims that Kennedy has anything to do with his father’s sponsorship to this country and he use the Kennedy’s connection to boost his campaign.
6) Staying in a church for 20 years that preach hatred and rasism, he claims that it is the black culture, nothing special about it.
Wake up. It is not the Black being discriminated but the reverse is true.
Go Hillary! Save the world from this global disaster
Posted by: John_Lai | April 13, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
So Obama’s “new kinda poltics” was really just a bunch of meaningless words. Just words.
Such audacity!
Obama is practicing gutter politics that he learned from the sewers of Chicago and the pews of Rev Wright’s house of hate.
Speaking of Wright, is his 2 million dollar mansion at the “greedy white guy” golf course finished yet?
Posted by: OxyCon | April 13, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Hillary is now a champion of the far right. Hillary will be a great VP for McCain. She will particularly help spread the LIE about some WMD in Iran. McCain will then easily launch a pre-emptive war against Iran that will last 300 years.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Obama’s wealthy supporters are wondering why he isn’t winning Pennsylvania, and his answer to them is to call us racists, to insinuate that our “bitterness” has turned us into gun-toting, Bible thumping bigots. He said exactly what he meant, and the only thing he is sorry about is that his comments were recorded by a private citizen at this event from which the press was barred. Did it ever occur to him that many Pennsylvanians are voting for Hillary Clinton because we believe in substance over style, that we appreciate the hard work and commitment both Clintons have always had to minorities and the disadvantaged among us, that we remember the Bill Clinton years as a time of peace and prosperity for this nation? No, he would rather paint us as bigots and racists climging to our guns and Bibles for support because we are so “bitter”. Obama just doesn’t get it.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | April 13, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
I remember fondly when, before Super Tuesday, there were actually debates about policy, effectiveness, vision, experience, change, etc. Those are actually important.
Once again, an election sinks into the mud. Hillary and Obama are tranquilizing an electorate that previously could have climbed a mountain to vote for either of them against McCain. Now many wouldn’t even drive a mile to do so. It says a lot about the abominable process, media, and misinformation of the electorate that a Hillary or Obama supporter wouldn’t vote for the opposing Democrat against McCain. It’s a matter of passive support for an administration you claim to knowledgably oppose, or swallowing your misplaced, excessive pride. I can’t tell the difference between this election and one for 6th grade president. There’s too much at stake for grudges, overgeneralizations, and anger.
Posted by: Casey | April 13, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Obama just doesn’t look like a President, doesn’t sound like a President, does not have the resume of a President, doesn’t show the strength of a President. This democrat wants to vote for a President – which is clearly not Obama! Maybe if Obama was on American Idol and could dance I would think about calling in – kind of like a Sanjaya vote!
Posted by: John in Cape May | April 13, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Looks like all republicans in the video . But this isn’t about HIllary its about Obama and his smug little self and us small town people. I just got my I’m not bitter t-shirt.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Barack
there is one mistake in your stumping speech. you forgot to mention Bill Clinton paid lobbyist for the Columbia trade deal. if you have not heard he was paid $800,000.00
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
By the way folks, I’ve seen this nonsense about don’t vote for X or Y candidate because they are “unelectable”. What kind of silly reasoning is that? Ultimately everyone should vote for whoever they believe is the best candidate. If you are only voting for a candidate because they are “electable”, please either stay at home or try the very liberating thing of voting for a ‘lost cause’. You don’t lose when you vote your conscience.
Posted by: MIguy | April 13, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
For someone Ivy League educated and supposedly so smart, he sure does have to do a lot of “what I really meant was….”
Lol. Obama, we’re so “on” to you….
Posted by: Jo | April 13, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
cnn is replaying the compassion forum
Posted by: lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I just watched the tape recommended above, Oh my God the Clintons are SLIME…see it for yourself Oh my GOD.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: used 2 b for Hillary | April 13, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
I am Bitter of these nonsense Lies of Clintons!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
hey ted if i wanted to come up with that kind of list for Hillary it wouldn’t fit the page. they got you stuck on issues that don’t matter. people need to stop focusing on thing that MATTER
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
I am from PA and it looks like hillary will have a landslide here in PA!!!
Winner takes all for HILLARY after what we heard!
Posted by: Randy, PA | April 13, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
cnn is replaying the forum
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
need to start foucing on thing that MATTER
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Obama has once again spoken of how he really feels about America’s behide closed doors …Well he thought they were closed LOL..This is to funny…Can’t take those words back Obama you done said what you said and if you really thought that you should have choosen better words why didn’t you…LOL…Obama thought that he wouldn’t get caught…BYE.. BYE.. Obama…Hillary The One That Loves and Respects And Is Proud Of Her Country…
Posted by: Patricia | April 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
A lot of Obama hate here.
You can’t win them all.
Posted by: TR | April 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Blue goes with HILLARY in PA!
Posted by: Blue color , PA | April 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
McCain has no idea how to fix the economy, he outsourced defense jobs, does not even know who is fighting who in Irak but he wants to stay in Irak for some 100 years at the same time invade Iran and stay 300 years. To win, he needs a big LIER on the ticket. Guess who he is going to pick? Of course Hillary.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
OBAMA wants the TOP JOB in the COUNTRY WITHOUT HIS CREDENTIALS, WITHOUT A RESUME, WITHOUT EXPERIENCE, WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE and with just a BIG mouth …
That is correct. NO LIE here …
Try applying for a job without a resume, without knowledge and without experience, and we wont even get an interview.
THAT IS AS CORRECT AS CAN BE.
Posted by: StraightFacts | April 13, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Looks like Bucks County PA will be for Hillary by a land slide.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
COME ON AMERICA, ALL THE HATE BECAUS PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF CHANGE. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HIS PEOPLE. WE WILL NEVER UNITE IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF CHANGE. SOME PEOPLE NEVER WANT TO UNITE.
Posted by: marian | April 13, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
John and Hillary buy their ROSE colored
glasses at hte same ELITIST shop.
how many closed doors does she have meetings??
She closes doors for Chelsea media stay away!! no questions from the Media
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
My Lord!
John Kerry even was warmer than this guy! He is too far to away from middle class Americans! That is why in 33 years only Bill Clinton won an election as a Democrat!
I would rather McCain than Obama!
Posted by: Micheal | April 13, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
hillary lashed out at obama for the canada and NAFTA issue. what did obama say aobut Bill and Mark supporting the trade in columbia????? NOThing why because he know that doesn’t matter to the amerian people. lets talk about issues that can cange peoples life.
Posted by: Bez | April 13, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Barak Obama says: “I want to see that picture of her out there in the duck blinds.”
I want to see that picture of obama brining about change.
Posted by: wnytoby | April 13, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
North Carlolina is OBAMA COUNTRY!!
YES WE CAN!! OBAMA08!!
Posted by: RC | April 13, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
was she filled with GODS SPIRIT WHEN SHE LIED????
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
how can you say he is too far away, when you know his background and where he came from.
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
OMG!!
The Clinton campaign is totally desperate and even bitter! U don´t need to be a brain-surgent to analyze and understand their moves and reactions.
After all her reckless, flagrant and numerous and consistent gaffes(plain lying an embellisments)and within the past several weeks not mentioning that of her husband, did she hear Obama made a single statement? No! He stood the high ground!
Now she has jumped on a slightly ill-worded truth and clamouring here and there like a crow with her usual cheap chicken sink tactics. Americans are too smart to see desperate deep in her eyes and this is only gonna backfire on her as usual. huh!
Posted by: Bill | April 13, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
I am watching Hillary lying again on CNN Forum. May someone pray for that lady.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
I am voting for Hillary In Indiana!
I am a working class American bitter to the Democratic Party to back an empty suit Obama who is out of his mind!
Democrats can win only if Hillary gets the nomination!
Obama can not carry many states , not blue color but also liberal working class business owners and professionals who make under $250K won’t vote for Obama either! Obama is for eithet the poor on welfare or very rich!
Posted by: Mary | April 13, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Obama sure likes to copy people’s remarks. Is that all he is nothing but a copy cat. First, he uses one of advisor’s remarks and makes it seem like his own, then in the Texas Debate (even though Hillary was already being questioned first) he stated that he had some of the same views as her, Uses Mr. Chavez statement of “Si se puede” as his own, THEN he waits to see how the other two candidates give their viewpoint on whether or not Pres. Bush should Boycott the opening ceremonies in China, NOW he uses Hillary’s statement of shame on her. Is this the kind of president we want. OF COURSE NOT, As much as he states that His Wife, His Pastor, and now Himself are were misinterpreted then he should use a better choice of words. Imagine what foreign leaders would think of him if he ever met with them. Does he mean what he said or did he use another wrong choice of words. In this age of time, we don’t need someone who constantly uses the wrong choice of words, especially in these hard, violent times here and around the word. We need someone like Hillary who knows how to speak with foreign leader and can help restore the economy. It is time for a change for the better NOT THE WORSE. My votes for HILLARY!!
Posted by: Hilary Supporter | April 13, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Ted Kennedy is still so “bitter” about losing the 1976 nomination to Jimmy Carter at the convention, he had to take it out on Bill and Hillary Clinton! Now Obama is so “bitter” that he hasn’t wrapped up the nomination, and he has to go to the convention, because the “small town Americans” aren’t giving him the landslide wins his donors thought they were buying. How come we small town Americans aren’t buying what Obama is selling? Because we “cling” to the constitution and our faith? Obama wants to REWRIGHT the constitution!!!
Posted by: rs | April 13, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Dear Mr. Obama–Look who’s exaggerating now?! Clinton never claimed to be a hunter. She at least actually grew up in Scranton and reflected on memories of her FATHER letting he shoot a gun by a lake. She’s not claiming to be anything like a hunter, whatever. Sorry that you’re not the only one who’s lived in several different places and yet claim the culture of each one (Hawaii, Indonesia, Kansas, Illinois…I forgot, Hahavahd/Cambridge) Please GET OVER YOURSELF.
Posted by: Aidan | April 13, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
HILLARY MILLIONS HAVE MADE HER FORGET WHAT LIFE IS LIKE FOR THE OTHERS ON THE POOR SIDE OF TOWN.
PEOPLE DO GET BITTER WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOMES , JOBS AND THER KIDS TAT DO NOT MAKE IT BACK FROM IRAQ
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Hillary is just bitter cause it’s now obvious to even the casual observer, 2004 was her year. YOU MISSED THE BUS, HON! 2008 was not the right year for a restoration. 2008 is a year for change.
Posted by: Erik | April 13, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
The truth of the matter is Obama was in a private fundraiser which was closed to the media. He was speaking to a very liberal crown in San Francisco. He felt he could speak poorly of rural people.
Obama, people are religious, not because they don’t have jobs, but because they believe in God. People do not own guns because they do not have jobs. The same can be said over and over about all the issues Obama talked about.
Obama pretty much stated that if the government provided for the people economically they would forsake religion, guns, they would accept people different from them, they would be pro-immigration, and they would be pro-trade.
Obama is crazy.
Posted by: Benjamin | April 13, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
hey mary if no one will vote obama how did he get thi far? well somone voted for him and we will continue to vote for him. i am working class broke as they come but i am voting for him.
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
McCain is one goal candidate, Win in November and attack Iran…Health Care, the economy,social security, education, war in Irak, jobs outsourcing do not matter. Hillary goal is ensure no one other than the Clintons wins as a Dem for as long as the USA exists.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
would that be his private school on the island I dream about for a vaction spot Obama’s mother did not raise him his vp banker grandmother this guy has never been poor.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Hillary has really contaminated and divided a lot of people. You can tell by your childish rants and raves. You all are adults aren’t you. Boy with grown people like you all and Hillary it will be hard to have a more perfect union. I feel sorry for Barack. Who would want to deal with some of your CHILDISH thoughts. GOD BLESS US. And I bet you call yourselves RELIGIOUS.
Posted by: tukss | April 13, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
I am a black man and will be voting for Hillary in North Carolina!
First I supported Obama , and would be voting for Obama before Rev. Wright became an issue! He can not win the general election! You will see a landslide in PA ! I hope the rest of the black voters will do the same so we can get rid of the Republicans in November! Too late! Obama is done!
Posted by: Cliff | April 13, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
OMG!!
The Clinton campaign is totally desperate and even bitter! U don´t need to be a brain-surgent to analyze and understand their moves and reactions.
After all her reckless, flagrant and numerous and consistent gaffes(plain lying an embellisments)and within the past several weeks not mentioning that of her husband, did she hear Obama made a single statement? No! He stood the high ground!
Now she has jumped on a slightly ill-worded truth and clamouring here and there like a crow with her usual cheap Kitchen sink tactics. Americans are too smart to see desperation deep in her eyes and this is only gonna backfire on her as usual. huh!
Hillary, Please with all due respect! Don´t drown the democratic party ´cos ur presidential entitlement is slipping away.
Posted by: Bill | April 13, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
It was no one’s fault except Senator Obama when he made his elitist remarks about the workers of PA. and then he has the gall to blame Senator Clinton for his own stupidity. He did say these awful things.
SHAME ON YOU, OBAMA. GET OUT OF THE RACE. WE DON’T WANT YOU. You are not an honest person: you even lied about your father.
Posted by: Mary Holmes | April 13, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
It all started with Michelle being proud for the FIRST TIME IN her adult life of America …
It started with the “God Damn America” , courtesy of Obama’s most reverred mentor, the Rev. Wright.
It all started with REZKO …
Need we go on …
Posted by: NeedWeContinue | April 13, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Thank you, thank you, Senator Obama for finally fighting back. I am SO tired of Hillary getting away with everything because she is a woman and you are trying to be a gentleman.
As a working woman and a single mom, I think Hillary is so out of touch with common women like myself. She is only where she is because of her husband.
Hillary says, “let them eat cake” and it astonishes me that women believe her. She reminds me of some of my bosses’ wives who only condescended to talk to me when they wanted something.
Dear God, when will someone put that bloated old Clinton witch out of her misery?
Signed,
a woman who will vote Obama or McCain’08
Posted by: jed | April 13, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
OBAMA
RECIEVED APPLAUSES AT THE FORUM TONIGHT.
AND ALL THOUGHT HE DONE FAR BETTER THAN
HILLARY. SHE WAS PARSING ALL HER WORDS. SLOW AND DELIBERATE
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I think hillary has ZERO chance againt mccain. She is running on her experience. if she can’t beat obama by 20 points she will lose to Mccain by 20. at least obama offers change.
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I have read most of the blogs and is very dissapointed with the american people. Obama is a very intelligent man. Hillary has voted for NAFTA and the united states is in a turmoil and no one is listening. Hillary has caused great furstration to america. She is not truthful and would not admitt to her lies. I PRAY FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN. people in pennsylvania should vote for obama if they want to have jobs. Hillary has alredy messed up terribly. we the people of north carolina is for Oboma. most of the people I talk to is for him. He still have a fair chance in Pennsylvania. Do not pay hillary any attention. She is out of touch herself.why don’t she just leave the people of the united states aloong. We do not need the clintons in the white house. Bill is a man who has messed up one young girl life in the white house. monica Lowinsky, she was used as a bate for a man who is suppose to be a father image for the world. Instead he used the young girl. It is a shame he did her like that. His daughter is in the same age bracket as monica. Is this the type of man we want in the white house with young intelligent college girls. Think aboout it my fellow americans. Vote for obama he is the best canidate for the job. He can change this country and bring this country together. For give him for his mis interpted words. I truly understand what he is saying. Pennslyvania hod be furstrated with Hillary. She is the one who engaged to all of the jod market decrease when all of the jobs went to foreign coutries that she voted on. She voted for the war. That is why the country is like it is today. For all of those who does not want to vote for Oboma the people of north carolina will make up for it. Go Obama.
Posted by: Wanda | April 13, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
I am afraid we have not seen what kind of reaction Obama will face to after Rev Wright! On top of it now, his own comments will destroy him! He did not win anything since those became on public!
Posted by: Ilena | April 13, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Obama is now saying “shame on her.”
But, shame on you, Mr.Obama, for
letting communism rear its ugly head
again.
If folks want to really know who
Obama is and what he’s about, look
at the nature of his statement from
the San Francisco fundraiser.
I’m not going to list the statement
word for word, but, the meaning behind
it is that, while he says clinging
to religion or guns or family or
anti-immirgrant sentiment are
“important” things, the very fact
that he spoke angrily of such clinging
and the fact that he says that, while
clinging to such things is important,
he doesn’t actually want people
to cling to such things because he
wants them to look toward Washington;
that is communism.
Communism, among other things, is
when people hardly cling to old values
and institutions and instead cling to
one central institution–the national
government.
There is nothing wrong with being
proud of and willing to serve the
American government, but, in this
nation, we aren’t supposed to put
government on a pedestal at the
expense of everything else.
So, are we ready for a communist
president???
Posted by: GaryJFC | April 13, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
ted, i really like your list. just so you know that i’ll use it in the future. OBAMA supporters: i challenge you to make a list of lies of hilary and mccain. Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the biggest liar of all??
Peace and love obama: all of your post accuse people being racist. it’s you and your messiah obama are racist. you use the race card every time you can. calling the kids “monkeys” is racist. how low can obama go.
Posted by: hannah | April 13, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
HILLARY STATES I HOPE I WILL NOT BE DEFENSIVE OR ABRUPT WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH ME .
ASK THE TROOPER IF HE THOUGHT SHE WAS ABRUPT.
HECK SHE HAS BEEN ABRUPT IN HER RESPONSES ABOUT OBAMA
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Thank you Cliff …
There are about 10 – 20% Blacks who can understand this election is not about color.
This election is about picking a candidate for the Presidency of the United States … and Obama is not it.
We will sooner vote Colin Powell or Secretray Rice for President than Obama.
These are the facts and the 10-20% Blacks understand that.
Thank God, all is not lost …
We are so proud of you … You, the 10 – 20% Blacks that can understand this is the hope for true UNITY in this country …
Posted by: ThereIsHope | April 13, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
to be clear: obama thinks telling the kids not to climb the trees like monkeys is racist.
Posted by: hannah | April 13, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Lauren nothing but a hand picked would do for Obama and Casey looked like he was flying high of course all the old hippies in the party like to partake.All young people and they had the street money tonigt.
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Hillary has really contaminated and divided a lot of people. You can tell by your childish rants and raves. You all are adults aren’t you. Boy with grown people like you all and Hillary it will be hard to have a more perfect union. I feel sorry for Barack. Who would want to deal with some of your CHILDISH thoughts. GOD BLESS US. And I bet you call yourselves RELIGIOUS.
Posted by: tukss | April 13, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Why act like a crazy women out on the campain and act nice at the forum. If she had really cared aobut the comments hurting american people that was her good chance to expalin it. when asked what she thought about the comment she said ” i will let obama explai that”. if she had siad that from the begning she would have been on the top a long time ago.
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
WLL SO FAR THE ASKED HER4 QUESTIONS AND NOT ONCE WAS THERE ANY APPLAUSE.
AND SHE SPOKE OF WOMEN OUT OF THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS6 TIMES. SHE HAS SEEN THE POLLS WHIT WOMAN ARE LEAVING HER . LOOKS LIKE SHE IS TRYING TO GET SOME BACK
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Lauren,
You are shouting again. Better take a dose of coolaid and calm down. Your shouting will not help the Wizard of Bitterness.
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Obama, the Wizard of all things Bitter!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Obama has proven once again that the Clintons will always over play their hand. The are losing now and will continue to lose…they will never again see the inside of the White House and they would prefer to see damage done to the democratic party than concede a loss. They are a sad lot and what is left of the “Clinton brand” is forever ruined. She will be lucky to keep her Senate seat in New York.
Posted by: PATRECE | April 13, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
If Hillary is the only choice then LYING will become the most important skill to get elected.
Posted by: LadyMean | April 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
can hillary supporters please tell me one big thing that she has done that can quilify her to be the next president???????????????????????????????
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Then there is a song by Mick Jagger about Obama:
“Hope you guess my name,” “Tell me, baby, what’s my name?” “Tell me, sweetie, what’s my name?”
Posted by: Lance | April 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Obama thinks that he can get away by saying “I am not perfect and the words I chose wer bad”. He expects to get a free pass once again. What if these words would have come out of Hillary or McCain’s mouth? The media would have made them quit. What is Hillary or McCain would have sat in a church for 20 years that puked filth and anti-americanism and racism? Where would they be at this moment? What is Hillary or McCain would have said “I would not punish my daughters with babies”? After all these incidents NObama expects a free pass? NO WAY!
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
OMG!!
The Clinton campaign is totally desperate and even bitter! U don´t need to be a brain-surgent to analyze and understand their moves and reactions.
After all her reckless, flagrant and numerous and consistent gaffes(plain lying an embellisments)and within the past several weeks not mentioning that of her husband, did she hear Obama made a single statement? No! He stood the high ground!
Now she has jumped on a slightly ill-worded truth and clamouring here and there like a crow with her usual cheap Kitchen sink tactics. Americans are too smart to see desperation deep in her eyes and this is only gonna backfire on her as usual. huh!
Hillary, Please with all due respect! Don´t drown the democratic party ´cos ur presidential entitlement is slipping away.
Posted by: Bill | April 13, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
My grand father is a WWII vet and a retired businessman, who gave to and was envolved in his community. Before, this election process had even started, he said he was no longer is going to vote. His reasoning is that corruption is rampant and he is no longer represented. So, why bother? He believes that we are going down hill. But, he is not bitter (sarcasm).
He lives in a small town in PA.
I find it funny–the kind of funny that makes your stomach churn and your head ache–that everyone is always up in arms about lying politicians, but when they get some straight, unsweetened truth, they run to the forked-tongued, word-twisting, lying-liars. As far as I am concerned, go ahead, vote for the manipulaters that build bridges to nowhere, get us bogged down in a war due to leadership incompentence and who avoid the hard issues like immigration, social security, health care, to take on the really tough ones like steroids in major league baseball. Just, shut the hell up, when you get screwed, I do not want to hear it.
Posted by: al snyder | April 13, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Dear Obama-haters,
How do you know Obama is unelectable? Do you have a personal phone connection to God or some other grandiose fantasies about yourself?
Most of us grown-ups are not scared of bogeymen – as you tirelessly repeat Farrakhan, Wright, Hussein, blah blah blah. Here, I’ll look under the bed for you and tell you there are only dust bunnies down there.
Get a life! The only monster I am scared of is that two headed lying slime called the Clintons.
Obama or McCain ’08
Posted by: jed | April 13, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Oh please! Obama thinks we are REALLY dumb – he says something, it provokes an unfavorable reaction, so he says it wasn’t what he meant to say! Then, to add insult to injury, his supporters join in the chorus and tell those of us who know exactly what he meant that we’re wrong! The fact is, he not only referred to the people in PA who haven’t fallen for his bs as “bitter”, he said that they cling to religion and guns and went on to say that they’re xenophobic. Wrong Obama, most of them are just average white people, and just like your grandma, we typical Americans make you “cringe”. News flash, the feelings are mutual.
Posted by: Melly | April 13, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
OBAMA says “[SMALL-TOWN AMERICANS] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,”
First substitute BUSH, MCCAIN or CLINTON for OBAMA.
Next substitute “BLACK AMERICANS,” or “JEWISH AMERICANS” or “WOMEN” for “SMALL-TOWN AMERICANS.”
Finally, defend it as non-prejudicial. -As not bourgeoisie condescension observing the opiates of the masses. -And the opiates he ascribes them: Guns, Religion, Hate, Fear.
This ideology is dangerous problematic.
This is harmful to the Democratic Party.
This is helpful to the Republican Party.
Anyone who turns a blind eye to this perpetuates the harm.
Posted by: yael | April 13, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Here is Obama’s Resume/Quals – You Decide:
• Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Melly Get a typical life!
Here’s your true Gdddess of lies at her best!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: JoAnn | April 13, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
NO MORE MONARCHY
We fought against Monarchy
Obama 08
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Hillary really is the only one that can do the job for America…Obama is aways being misinterpretation of his words and the list go’s on and on how he is aways being misunderstood…how many more times are we going to hear this …Every single time he’s caught in something he blames Hillary …Why hasn’t he said anything about McCain?…Obama will lose because these are fighting words to all the sportsman of America..See what happen to Kerry when Bush was claiming that Kerry was going to take peoples guns…It won’t be long till the DNC will have to tell Obama you really messed up this time….
Posted by: Patricia | April 13, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
When Obama doesn’t follow a script from his speechwriters, which is obviously what happened in San Fran, then he really fouls up.
Not.Ready.For.Prime.Time.
Posted by: No'obama | April 13, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
she talks about poverty and in justice and dispear. we are just not doing enough.
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Obama needs a pastor like TD JAKES but really I think Obama has been caught in the middle of a fight that has been on going in our party every 20 years, and every time we have a chance this fight goes on betwenn the left wing nuts and the center I think Obama and Hillary are both tierd I know I am I’ve gained twenty pounds sitting at this pc who knows what the end will be in 80 we handed it to Regan .I f any thing they use us every four years to change the deck chairs and somehow nothing ever gets done we live in a country where only the strong survive. It didn’t use to be this way
Posted by: Bishop | April 13, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
This just in. Faced with a continuing criticism over his “God Damn America” remarks, Rev. Jeremiah Wright
conceded he had been inartful in his sermon. “I didn’t say it as well as I should have” he added,
“Now, I am the first to admit that some of the words I chose, I chose badly; The words I chose, I chose badly.
They were subject to misinterpretation, they were subject to be twisted and I regret that.”
Posted by: DN | April 13, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
The good news is that when Obama loses the general election, no one can say it was because of racism. Everyone knows now he blew it all on his own.
Posted by: Jo | April 13, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Any takers on the Obama resume I posted above?
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Time for the three ring circus and fast eddie–Ed Rendall to go to some deserted island somewhere and tell lies to each other.
Obama for me in PENNSYLVANIA
Posted by: JIM IN PENNSYLVANIA | April 13, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Here is Obama’s Resume/Quals – You Decide:
• Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Senator Obama has done more harm to the Democratic Party than the next 100 worst politicians in history. He has lied, and lied and lied, then covered up, then lied again. He got started in his politiical career by the slum landlord who cheated poor people and taxpayer out of $100 million. He has a mentor who teaches hate and racism. His friends are terrorists or friends of terrorists. He had a convicted felon teaching his campaign workers how to mislead voters. He had associations with drugs and drug users.
Is this the character of a man who can be a stateman and world leader. I think not. VOTERS, DUMP OBAMA. HE IS TRASH.
Posted by: Granny | April 13, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Hillary has no substane. the minute she gets something from obama she runs with it. she should focus on her message if she has one that is
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
This confirms that Obama is divisive. Defending his anti-American pastor, he first tried to divide America using the smoke and mirror of ‘race’. Now to defend his appalling remarks on small town hard working Americans he trying to divide America on economic inequalities. HOW CAN THIS MAN BE AN UNITER? Obama is scary. He is like a wolf inside a sheep skin.
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
No, you did not choose badly, Obama.
You said what you really thought … another spot on the leopard has been exposed.
Your true colors are showing
That is all …
Posted by: SpotExposed | April 13, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Dear Patricia,
Tell me that firing a gun will bring people’s jobs back, give them healthcare and give their kids a good education.
This is the twentyfirst century and it doesn’t work that way anymore.
Do you see the Chinese or the Indian firing their guns all over the Earth? No they are loaning us money so we can burn it in gunpowder while their people prosper at our expense.
I’d rather have a good job, good healthcare and a good education for my kids than get tied up in secondary issues like gun-control, gay marriage and abortion.
Really, who cares about guns if you don’t have a job, your health is bad and your kids are getting a second-class education compared to Asian kids.
Americans need to figure out what their priorities are.
Obama or McCain ’08
Posted by: jed | April 13, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD AND ACCEPTED AS THE TRUTH……
This is a quote of a post…..anyone else seen this ?
A JT posted this…..
Can anyone out there relate to this? I am quoting him …
“Maybe there aren’t Bubbas driving around in pickup trucks with the classic bumpersticker “God, Guns and Guts Made America Free” where Obama’s detractors live, but here in rural Pennsylvania that line may as well replace “e pluribus unum” as the motto on the national currency.
I live in western Pennsylvania, and I can tell you, people here are bitter and angry. Poverty is prevalent. People hunt squirrels and eat them, along with racoon stew. People also hunt deer here, not for sport, but so they can put meat in their freezer so they can feed their families. They cut wood in the forests and heat their homes with wood stoves because they can’t afford to pay the gas bill. I know a guy who goes to old landfills to dig up old milk and beer bottles to sell on eBay. He uses the proceeds to buy clothes for his family at the Salvation Army (and to pay for his dial-up connection).
Racism and prejudice are ever-present here. A friend of mine is part-owner of bar in a small rural town south of where I live. I meet up with him there occasionally and watch as down-and-out people come in with their disability and welfare check money and drink it away. It’s a pretty depressing place, but it does serve as the social center for a town that has seen its few industries shut down and the local people’s jobs eliminated or shipped off elsewhere.
I hear the usual rants there, that it’s all the fault of gays and minorities and immigrants (although those aren’t the terms used, but rather the usual, virulent slurs). A black man walked in the last time I was there, and a guy near me at the bar muttered in a not-so-quiet way, “What’s he think he’s doing in here?” When I brought up the presidential race and Obama with another man at the bar, his response was, “there ain’t no way America is ever going to vote for a black guy.” Later on my bar-owner friend told me about his experience talking about Obama with another woman at the bar, and her angry response was that “it’s because of half-breed n*****s like him that America is in such bad shape today.”
Prejudice, racism and fear do run rampant in areas like this. People are poor. They are in bad health, overweight from a deep-fried diet, and toothless from the lack of dental care. They are unemployed. They are uneducated. They do cling to their hunting rifles and to their religious beliefs. For many, it is about all that they have. The towns around here are full of decaying, boarded up buildings. People live in rundown old trailers with abandoned cars in the front yard. I have seen people using an old car as a stable, with their goat tied to and living in it. I could drive you by a least three old houses that have Conderate flags in the windows.
So go ahead and discount Obama’s talk of how bitter and angry that some of the people of rural Pennsylvania are. Call him elitist for taking the time to pass through areas such as this to listen to what the people have to say, and to then relate what he has heard to people in more prosperous parts of the country when he is asked about it. I have lived in San Francisco, and let me tell you, there is a marked difference between the general attitude there and the attitude here in the “rust belt”. Go ahead and dismiss everything that Obama said as political posturing. Let Hillary and McCain “pick him apart” and parse his words. But please keep in mind that when Obama said:
“it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
that he is 100% accurate in his assessment.
I know, because I live here, my family and my friends’ families have lived here for generations, and we see it every day, all around this region. There is a very fine line between poverty and prosperity here, where making above $20,000 a year puts you in the realm of the “haves”, but also knowing that you’re one contract termination away from joining the ranks of the “have-nots”.
I come from a family of dairy farmers. I know what it’s like to spend up to 12-16 hours a day sitting on a tractor for three dollars an hour, which I did through high school and every summer until I was fortunate enough to head off to college. Many of my friends were also fortunate and went to school, and then relocated to other parts of the country. Some of us were able to come back under better circumstances, but the large majority of people here are not as fortunate.
Thirty years worth of the right wing dismantling our public education system has taken its toll. Thirty years worth of mismanagement of the economy, of shutting down factories and shipping jobs out of the country, of subsidizing corporate farms and taxing family farms out of business, has taken its toll.
Yes, people are angry, and bitter, but Obama never said that they aren’t resilient, opitmistic or hard-working. Those are Hillary and McCain’s twisted words, and for them to stand up and suggest that rural Pennsylvanians aren’t fed up with the way things are, only reveals how out of touch they really are with at least this part of the country.
Of course, all McCain has to do is suggest to poor rural folk that the party of gun-control, gay marriage, and NAFTA is going to take away what little they have left, and rural conservatives will vote for him, just as they did for Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. As for Hillary, the more she “takes apart” Obama’s message, the more she does the GOP’s work for free. If Hillary can’t see that the people of rural Pennsylvania are bitter, and angry, and mad as hell about the way things are, then she needs to step down from that one hundred million dollar platform of hers and take a real look around.
In western Pennsylvania I hear two things: the “God, Guns and Guts” crowd see John McCain as the heir-apparent to the mantle of rural conservative values; and the people who hope for some kind of change see Barack Obama as the person who understands the situation that we are in, and maybe is the one who can lead us in a new direction. What I don’t hear is anyone talking about whatever and whomever it is that Hillary claims to stand for. Truth is indeed bitter… yet it must be told.”
Posted by: dav | April 13, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
her favorite biblical Ester not too many woman had opportunity ,and courageous.i would love to learn more about her
PANDERING TO THE WOMAN …NO APPLAUSE BY THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Obama screwed up. Lashing out at Hillary is just making him look like even a bigger jerk. He should just let this go.
Posted by: Stop the Blame Game | April 13, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
To all the folks on here that support, Hill-Billy. You are ignorant and obviously blind. (Two words: Sniper fire.) But lucky for you President Obama isn’t going to hold your stupidity against you. You too will benefit from his policies. You can thank him one day. While you’re eating that plate of crow. But hey, even stupid people need some love.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 13, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Obama calls hard working small town America bitter, yet his pastor who spews filth, hatred, racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Americanism, isn’t bitter. This shows NObama’s character and judgment – yet again!
There is no way NObama can explain these divisive comments. He can not hide behind his ‘race speech’ now. He can not use any smoke and mirror tactics for this. His list of bad judgments is increasing.
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Sorry I was drunk earlier. I am wholeheartedly support Obama when I am awake. Please forgive me in advance for my future flip-flops. Trust me. I am for Obama.
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Hillary, the Witch of the West
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 13, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Obama’s TRUE Bio….Here’s the BEEF!
You want to read substance about Obama on real issues of change that he sponsered and got passed…scroll and read the wonderful research Grassroots Mom has performed.
Carol, you’re a 14 carrot idiot…You’d vote for Monica because she’s 100 per cent american, that’s just great…And the Black people at the event were BLACK Trash…wow, it makes one want to read your dissertation, know the term?
Obama was too busy mailing trash? It was her Hillary’s Trash, every word in the mailers came from Hillary. They were her ideas…I hope she brings that up in the debate, but she won’t because she’d get nailed by her own words and thoughts…Let’s see, shall we?
Try doing some research before you display your ignorance. But I did read somewhere about the low IQ of Hillary followers. I didn’t believe that article until I came across you.
And by saying Obama’s “so called people” Are you referring to the American people, because those are the people who’re voting for him…Just ask the “so called people” in Idaho, Utah, Colorado, etc…or read the demographics, you can read?
It’s racist remarks like yours that assures me as well as other intellegent people that we’re on the right track with the right guy.
Thank you for opening your mouth and showing your lack of Education.
Go ahead and vote for your idol Monica Lew…she has about as much of a chance at becoming president as her boyfriends wife.
Bill was a great president? Where was he during the genocide of Rwanda, screwing an office worker?
Let us not forget about Great President Bill, when he pardon every criminal but Charles Manson before he left the White…get a clue, then get a life!
Here’s Hillary’s
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923602139974671
Posted by: True American | April 13, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
3 applause’s 2 laughs 13 times bringing up woman
pandering to the faith
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Ever one went crazy when Hillary said she was in Bosnia under firer. What she was trying to do was show she had been involved in affairs of diplomacy in Bosnia, which she was. No one made note of that fact. Now Obama lies again about something that he doesn’t do, receive money from oil companies, and Rev. Wright. When in fact he does receive money from oil companies, a lot. Obama lied about Rev. Wright apologizing for his comments. He lied on the view when questioned about his pastor. Then he goes to San Francisco BILLIONAIRE ROW. Then he talks about the middle class. He goes to SAN FRAN and talks about Small Town PA. He’s a fraud; he thinks he’s better than any one. I’m sure the media will fine away to make him look good and cover up this situation. Obama and his campaign are a fraud, just like the media reporting of him. I believe the media is doing this so that McCain will win the Whitehouse. The Republican Party will begin the negative campaign once they know who the democratic nominee will be. Obama will not be elected in the general election.
Posted by: DavidM | April 13, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Ever one went crazy when Hillary said she was in Bosnia under firer. What she was trying to do was show she had been involved in affairs of diplomacy in Bosnia, which she was. No one made note of that fact. Now Obama lies again about something that he doesn’t do, receive money from oil companies, and Rev. Wright. When in fact he does receive money from oil companies, a lot. Obama lied about Rev. Wright apologizing for his comments. He lied on the view when questioned about his pastor. Then he goes to San Francisco BILLIONAIRE ROW. Then he talks about the middle class. He goes to SAN FRAN and talks about Small Town PA. He’s a fraud; he thinks he’s better than any one. I’m sure the media will fine away to make him look good and cover up this situation. Obama and his campaign are a fraud, just like the media reporting of him. I believe the media is doing this so that McCain will win the Whitehouse. The Republican Party will begin the negative campaign once they know who the democratic nominee will be. Obama will not be elected in the general election.
Posted by: DavidM | April 13, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
dav: So do you agree that the people around you ‘CLING’ to religion and guns out of frustration? Obama is again using smoke and mirror to blind naives like you to hide behind words like ‘people are angry and bitter’. What he said is much more than that.
Posted by: chiman | April 13, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
he noobama 08 people are saying it
LEADING IN POPULAR VOTE
TOTAL DELEGETA
you know he didn’t jsut give those numbers to himself people like me voted for him
OBAMA 2008 AND OBAMA 2012
Posted by: bez | April 13, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I thought WestCoastMessenger has transformed into an Obama supporter …
Did WestCoastMessenger transform back to being a Hillary Supporter.
When will be the next transformation.
Wishy Washy Hillary supporter was what I thought someone called her.
Anyway, you have the right to transform as you wish …
I will check to see what you are the next time I visit …
Posted by: Transformation | April 13, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
next is Obama i will count for him also
Posted by: Lauren | April 13, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I can only believe that mainstream media is giving Obama passes after passes because they are going to trash him as they have Hillary when it comes to the General Election. Only makes sense; otherwise why would they back someone who has the associations he has? Why would they give him a pass on “small town America comments”? They are to report all info on candidates; good or bad and it has been pass after pass on Obama….they must want McCain to win; so look for media to blast Obama if he is nominated…
Posted by: Margie | April 13, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I can only believe that mainstream media is giving Obama passes after passes because they are going to trash him as they have Hillary when it comes to the General Election. Only makes sense; otherwise why would they back someone who has the associations he has? Why would they give him a pass on “small town America comments”? They are to report all info on candidates; good or bad and it has been pass after pass on Obama….they must want McCain to win; so look for media to blast Obama if he is nominated…
Posted by: Margie | April 13, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Listen, I am a working woman and a single mom.
To someone like me, Hillary is like Queen Marie Antoinette and “let them eat cake”.
I will love it when her head finally rolls in the dust, just like all those French women hundreds of years ago, who cheered the loudest when Queen Marie Antoinette was guillotined.
Because you know, I did not like the way the Clintons treated Monica Lewinsky and I will never forgive them for doing that poor young woman wrong.
Posted by: jed | April 13, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
True American: Hear! Hear! I concur. The problem with the electorate is how ignorant so many are of AMERICAN HISTORY. Before backing Hill-Billy, perhaps you should study RECENT American history.
DavidM, you are delusional as well as ignorant.
Power to the INFORMED people!
Posted by: millie-loue | April 13, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Why everything happen on Obama, Hillary’s to be blamed? It’s his own words.
Why Obama said “Shame on her” only to Hillary?
What about McCain? He gave similar comments like Hillary’s.
Proofing , he is afraid of a man but not to a woman.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 13, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
HILLARY HAS ALREADY LOST THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION AND MY STATE OF TEXAS SO LETS PUT HER TO BED AND LET HER GO BE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. Maybe she can use Eliot Spitzer escort service or at least get a discount for her boy Bill. She is the biggest liar known in the history of the United States. Esther was a brave woman in the bible and did not carry a gun nor did she have to duck from sniper fire. Perhaps hillary can now use the duck shooting gun from her youth and fire back at the snipers or maybe she can put Mark Penn where Vince Foster was buried. I am bitter because thi woman voted for a war which should not have been fought and I had to bury my nephew who was sent there by the likes of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Geore W. and of course her hand was also in the yes we should go do this camp. No pass on this one for you Hillary no excuse for lack of judgment and for your artifice.
Posted by: JOE BENTO | April 13, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Wow ! I see the the Republicans and Clintonites have joined forces here tonight ! How much you being paid ? Nice try but most people are smarter than to buy all of your smear campaigns and lies . Hear me loud and clear you sorry liars and losers . Obama will be the next President of the United States of America so better go get your crying towels ready ! Rambo Clinton is losing ground not gaining on Obama , her ship is slowly sinking and Senile John MCcain doesn’t know his own name any more let alone anything about economics or even Iraq for that matter , he is as sharp as a water melon these days .For once we are going to have an honest man , a man who isn’t up for sale like Rambo Clinton and MCcain are , a man who cares about the little guy , the working people , who is main street not Wall street ! Obama 08 !
Posted by: John | April 13, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Dear True colors:
Glad HiLIEry didn’t lash out at BO when she misspoke. She didn’t have to because he didn’t pounce on it like a desperate cat.
Posted by: tukss | April 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Obama for President and Rev. Wright for Vice President.
Way to go you DUMBOCRATS.
Posted by: DumbocratsAllRight | April 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Looks like Obama will be giving a speech titled “Bitterness in Small Town America” so he can explain to us all why we are clinging to the constitution and our faith to get by….Oh Wise Obama!!! Oh Wise One!!! Lead us Small Town Americans from Our Bitterness into your Small Minded Church!!!! Free us from the Constraints of Blue Collar Work and Lead us to Your Elite Conclave of Billionaires!!! Can we have some cake oh great Obama???
Posted by: rs | April 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
He has totally lost it. Shame on her? Are you kidding me? Own up to it man. He’s the one that made this comments and it’s not just Hillary who thinks they are insulting to middle Americans. Did we in PA hit a nerve perhaps? The man’s a fraud.
Posted by: tv | April 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Obama is wasting so much time and money being in the race. He needs to get some experience working with people who are dealing with real problems. He is so condescending and unrespectful towards people. He is too arrogant to be a President. I wonder where he gets his values from?
Shame on Obama…
Posted by: Dee | April 13, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Anna, get your facts straight. Hilary chose to go first. What a bad choice? He got a chance to sign autograph after specifically asking Campell Brown if could sign at the completion of the forum.
Posted by: Manal06 | April 14, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
For a man who was supposed to change America, give us hope, bring us together, all I have seen is division, division, division. He and his surrogates have talked just as negatively (if not more) about Hillary as they say she has about him, causing Hillary and Bill to be called racist and many other choice words. I agree with the poster who had to turn off Obama after Hillary spoke on the faith forum. I did too. I knew he was going to blow smoke about what he meant. And again, why did Hillary go first as usual – Obama had the advantage to hear what she said and respond. Hillary’s words and actions are always twisted to sound and seem like something else – Obama’s words are interpreted in a way that he supposedly didn’t mean, and he has a hissy fit. I am sick of this campaign – I don’t want to vote for McCain. I wish Al Gore was running.
Posted by: Bon53 | April 14, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Hilliary is praying that she becomes President. That’s the only thing she prays for.
Posted by: hamishdad | April 14, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
It was never just about the pastor. It was about Obama’s character and judgment to sit listening to the filth, racism and anti-American hatred. This isn’t about people being bitter or angry. It is about Obama’s belief that people turn to religion and guns out of bitterness.
In order to fool Americans and save himself from the pastor controversy he DIVIDED us on ‘race’. Now he is DIVIDING us on ‘economic inequalities’.
WAKE up AMERCIA. HOW CAN THIS MAN BE AN UNITER? Obama is scary. He is like a wolf inside a sheep skin.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
YES WE CAN.
expose that lying creature for who she really is. expose the thieves (mccain and the clintons) who have made over $100 million each from the american people.
expose hilary for creating nafta and then lying she is not for it.
expose her for supporting cafta denying she is for it, even though her husband was paid $800,000 and her chief advisor was caught in the columbian embassey.
expose them for collecting money from the chinese and saudia arabian at the same time telling bush to boycott the election.
expose them for lobbying for U.A.E. to buy the US ports.
if you want crooks vote for mcclinton.
if you want war vote for mcsame
but if you want the truth and change vote for the ONLY candidate available OBAMA.
Posted by: johnosahon | April 14, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
TO OBAMA ZOMBIES:
It was never just about the pastor. It was about Obama’s character and judgment to sit in the church for 20 years listening to the filth, racism and anti-American hatred. This isn’t about people being bitter or angry. It is about Obama’s belief that people turn to religion and guns out of bitterness.
In order to fool Americans and save himself from the pastor controversy he DIVIDED us on ‘race’. Now he is DIVIDING us on ‘economic inequalities’.
WAKE up AMERCIA. HOW CAN THIS MAN BE AN UNITER? Obama is scary. He is like a wolf inside a sheep skin.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
YES WE CAN EXPOSE OBAMA:
• Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
• Obama is endorsed by New Black Pather Party which is an extremist hate group
• Lied to American public on national TV that he was never in the pews during the anti-American, non-patriotic statements made by his pastor an in his ‘great speech’ agreed that he was in the pews.
• Obama is involved with Tony Rezko for years even after he knew all about his corruption and ties with the UK’s corrupt businessman who helped terrorists. He admitted recently that Rezko contributed 250K for his presidential bid and not 60K as told by Obama earlier.
And much more….
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
“The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death,” Bill Clinton in the Los Angeles Times in September 1991 while he was running for office.
So, Hill-Billy Lovers, do you agree that “economically insecure white people are scared to death?” Well, do you?
Hypocrites.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Hey Ted, now how long do you think a dirty laundry list of Clinton would be…lets try infinity…
WaterGate
Ron Brown – Murder
Vince Foster – Murder
2 boys in Arkansas – Murder
FEC Case
Monica Lewinsky
Bosnia lies
Libby
oh heck the list just goes on and on….you get the point…now tell me, how does Obama’s compare with Hillary. YOu do the math…
Posted by: Phil | April 14, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
OH Chiman, bless your heart, you are SWIMMING in Hill-Billy Kool-aid. I’m surprised you could tear yourself away from The Bill O’Reilly Show long enough to post here. Your ignorance is showing. Sad and pathetic, you are. Sad and pathetic.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Why is Obama saying “Shame on Hillary?” Obama is the one slamming “small town America” and the constitution. Obama has to make a sexist remark about Hillary trying to be like Annie Oakley, like that would be bad – OMG – a girl with a gun!!! At least Hillary isn’t out smoking cigarettes and drinking, oh, wait, she was drinking a little…oh heck, we already have a former drinker in the white house..he is a “former” drinker, isn’t he??? Obama, will you let the little people eat cake? Keep our constitution? Go to our own churches? Or will it be “The World According to the Great and Mighty Obama”…
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
NObama is leading in the delegates ONLY because all his DIRTY LAUNDRY of keeping company with terrorists, racists and anti-Americans, his ‘misjudgments’, bone headed decisions, elitist ways to look down on average Americans and millions of lies are coming out now – much after 2/3 of Americans got ‘FOOLED’ and force fed by the main stream media with this ‘SHAMELESS ARROGNAT’ – NOBAMA.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
millie-lou: TRUTH always hurts. I am sorry. What have you been drinking lately?
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal
brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
well so far 11 questions
4laughs8 applauses 3 mentioning woman
Posted by: lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Chiman, Honey, I think your mouse is stuck on the “post” button.
Sweetie, WHY are you so AFRAID?! You are filled with some very deep-seated fear. You seem to be afraid of EVERYTHING. Some of it is ignorance, plain and simple, but some of it could probably be resolved. You should seek professional counseling for that. It’s very unhealthy to be THAT AFRAID all the time. There is no shame in seeking help, Man. Go. You need it.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN EXPOSE OBAMA:
• Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
• Obama is endorsed by New Black Pather Party which is an extremist hate group
• Lied to American public on national TV that he was never in the pews during the anti-American, non-patriotic statements made by his pastor an in his ‘great speech’ agreed that he was in the pews.
• Obama is involved with Tony Rezko for years even after he knew all about his corruption and ties with the UK’s corrupt businessman who helped terrorists. He admitted recently that Rezko contributed 250K for his presidential bid and not 60K as told by Obama earlier.
And much more….
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Obama is clearly desperate! He should blame himself for saying those insulting words about so many good Americans; he should blame himself for double talking. He is NOT fit to be our President. If he cares about this country as he claims, he should withdraw. I read what he said, and I agree with many other people, there is no other to understand what he said. He indeed made connection between gun or religion with the bitterness and frustration. I actually could not beleive that he said that, although for quite a while I stopped believing whatever he says.
What he said was no accident. It was only one of those opportunities that we find out who he really is. He is not what he says he is. He called Hillary “shame on her”. What about past few weeks’ personale attacks Obama’s campaign launched on Hillary? Shame on Oabama. He definitely is NOT the new politics he portays himself. Now, Obama is using he is not perfect to cover what he said. But we see clearly who he is from what he said.
Posted by: jj | April 14, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
HRC’s team told Fox this weekend that HRC has only a 10% chance of winning the nomination.
Her hitman James Carville said this weekend that HRC has “only a bit over 10%” chance of winning the nomination, when asked about the teams guess of 10% chance.
Let’s focus on the CIA’s Manchurian candidate, McSame, the only former prisoner of war to approve waterboarding prisoners.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Obama’s not getting my vote, I totally agree with you. I stopped watching him on TV and listening to his speeches ever since I found out that his words never match with his actions. There are ample examples of his lies and his negative tactics that he and his campaign apply to hurt Hillary and I don’t even want to mention them again. Yet, he lashes out at Hillary and her campaign which are far more mild. I have been reading stuff from Hillary’s official websites and the languages Hillary’s campaign uses are much more gentle compared with the harsh attacks from Obama’s campaign. Obama is the man whose face I don’t even want to see again.
Posted by: smartcookie2008 | April 14, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
yes we can
yes we can yes he will yes he will
obama08
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
millie-lou: You are definitely QUALIFIED as OBAMA zombie – as you talk the same ‘senseless’ talk like your NObama. Can you try writing something that can make sense to this forum where adults post their comments that make sense and that are true.
TURTH always hurts.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
could one of you obama supporters that are working class stiffs like myself explain to me how you can support a closet marxist,dont call me names or say it aint so joe as he basically admits it in his own words in his book,so explain to why i or anyone else i know should support him.
Posted by: don tufts | April 14, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
How many more lies do we have to hear coming out of Hillary ‘sniper-fire” Clinton’s mouth before she calls it quits? I don’t know why people bother to go to her rallies to hear more of her lies.
While we are on the subject, I too would like to know how Clinton’s aids reached Vince Foster’s home before police arrived?
How did they managed to know where all of Clinton’s files were so that they could get away with all of them before police arrived?
How can Hillary say she is against NAFTA and have her campaign manager make backdoor deals with expanding Free Trade Agreements with Columbian government?
Clintons seem to be opportunistic givers. She announced $100,000 to South Carolina library few weeks before North Carolina primary. Giving for fame, votes, etc makes it meaningless.
Hillary “sniper-fire” Clinton and her campaign chief Mark “snake” Penn are out to help themselves, not the common working class people of this country.
Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
what the over and under that McSame comes “out” that he has Alzheimers before 2010?
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
THIS JUST IN: Hillary supporters left bamboozled by her campaign of double standards. Her core base of fruit loops hang in there saying quote “The reason we can look past her Bosnia lies and free trade support is because we were lied to as children and we share that bond with Hillary. We’re victims just like Hillary.”
Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
WATCHED THE WHOLE THING WITH MY INSIDES TURNING, THIS IS WHO SOME PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE FOR?
I PRAY THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HER SUPPORTERS WILL SWALLOW THEIR PRIDE AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY!
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
jackt51 What about Obama’s support for the Peru Free Trade Agreement? What about the wink-wink Goolsbee gave Canada? Both Clinton and Obama have pretty much identical positions on trade and their voting records are pretty much the same.
Posted by: alpaig | April 14, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
The only people supporting Hillary Clinton right now are bitter, frustrated middle-aged women who are angry that they didn’t grab the opportunities presented to them and have become, at the midpoint of their lives, irrelevant.
If you still support Hillary Clinton after all of her lies: Against the Iraq war (she voted for it), against NAFTA (her husband crafted and signed it and while Hillary claims to have been in on every good thing her husband did as president, she says she was against this one…), sniper fire, personally crafting peace in Northern Ireland, claiming she tried to join the Army (an insult to soldiers everywhere like myself), and saying she can ‘control Bill’ (while she couldn’t control him for the first 35 years of their marriage, now she can?), then you’re stupid and should go play in traffic. Hillary Clinton’s lies rival her husband’s- and that is her greatest accomplishment.
Posted by: Doug | April 14, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
The only people supporting Hillary Clinton right now are bitter, frustrated middle-aged women who are angry that they didn’t grab the opportunities presented to them and have become, at the midpoint of their lives, irrelevant.
If you still support Hillary Clinton after all of her lies: Against the Iraq war (she voted for it), against NAFTA (her husband crafted and signed it and while Hillary claims to have been in on every good thing her husband did as president, she says she was against this one…), sniper fire, personally crafting peace in Northern Ireland, claiming she tried to join the Army (an insult to soldiers everywhere like myself), and saying she can ‘control Bill’ (while she couldn’t control him for the first 35 years of their marriage, now she can?), then you’re stupid and should go play in traffic. Hillary Clinton’s lies rival her husband’s- and that is her greatest accomplishment.
Posted by: Doug | April 14, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
OBAMA THE TRUE LEADER!!
Have Courage to Stand up for Truth!
Hilly-Billy is loosing the Election, so trying to hide under lies, instead of presenting her sorry story..trying to find Obama’s words to take cheap Points!!
Rise America Rise!! Unmask the Liars Clintons!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
I lived in Altoona. They are still whining that the railroad yard closed 50 years ago.
Bitter is not close. They are depressed, without hope.
The US govt says central Penn is part of Appalachia.
If you use the word elitist about an opponent there, it gets you votes. It doesnt matter that what he said is completely true.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Couldn’t agree more, bruce becker. HRC is nothing but a distraction at this point. She has lost the nomination, only she refuses to admit it. She is clearly delusional. Times up, Hill. Pack it up and go back to New York. It’s over. Her campaign even knows it. Insiders say they are chomping at the bit to help Obama just as soon as she gets real. They live in reality. She lives in spin city. That’s why there is so much dissension in her campaign. Those working for her campaign are tired of fighting this losing battle and want OUT.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Annie was a fighter, so Obama attacks a woman that overcame so many hardships in her poverty stricken life to make something of herself in order to further his political career?
SHAME ON YOU OBAMA. You have no idea what you just did. Annie Oakley was my inspiration and my hope…
GBA
Posted by: lei | April 14, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
She is not going to ‘control’ Bill.
57% of the voting public think he will be in charge, and that that is a good thing, since he left us a trillion dollars. This is about HIS 3rd term.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
AVOID EYE CONTACT WITH THE HILARY? THIS IS WHAT THE MILITARY IN THE WHITE HOUSE WERE TOLD TO DO WHY?
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
http://www.JZEIFMAN.com
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
The Hillary “sniper-fire” incident was NOTHING against –
• Obama’s elitist arrogance to look down on hard working Americans
• The bad judgments to sit in the racist, hatred filled church with his wife and daughters
• His thinking of babies as ‘punishment’
• Connections with terrorists and racists like Ayers and Farrakhan
And MUCH MORE as I have listed in his resume before…
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
marc Certainly Obama should defend himself or what he should really do is explain himself in regards to his comments in San Francisco. I have to say though when he was doing his Annie Oakley comedy routine today he wasn’t looking too much like a statesman then.
Posted by: alpaig | April 14, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Obama is a horrible horrible man. Instead of apologizing to us, the guy goes and insults Hillary.
This guy is not ready to take responsibility for his words and actions and he wants to be President of the United States, Leader of the Free World, yet one can not touch him with “The Tip of a Rose Petal.” Good luck dealing with the America’s enemies!!!
Posted by: Gabriel | April 14, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
I like the Annie Oakley post. Good laugh.
Now back to reality.
We have to get out of the WTO or any jobs we create will be shipped away.
End NAFTA now.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
chiman/ ChinaMan,
I am hard working American!
I am bitter about Economy!!
I am supporting OBAMA!!
Now Get a Life!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Haha- The only bitter folks are: the Obama camp. Obama misspoke, so now he’s going to try and turn this onto Hillary. Obama- dude – you misspoke. Just admit your mistake and quit trying to spin it…
Posted by: Still Spining | April 14, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
The short list of Obama’s contradictions…
1. He says that words matter (a speech he “borrower” from Deval) but constantly asks the voters to give him the benefit of the doubt for his misspeaks.
2. Said he has always been against the Iraq war (yet stated and voted otherwise during his time in the senate) and he will end the war immediately (which later, is said by his campaign to be only a best-case scenario)
3. Said he will attempt to end the racial divide yet had Wright working for his campaign, a man who is clearly still very divided
4. Has accused numerous people that have spoken out against him as racist while he mutters the phrase “typical white person” while describing his white grandmother
5. Accuses Clinton of doing anything to win, while he drags his feet and tries to prevent MI & FL from a re-vote, because he is scared of the results
6. He continually talks about his superior judgment while engaging in a very long and close relationship with Tony Rezko & Jeremiah Wright
7. Condemns Washington and its same old players and then has much of his campaign help come from the likes of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry
8. Criticizing Imus and stated that “anyone working for me who made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group would be fired” and then installs Wright into his campaign knowing he had made many derogatory comments about white people throughout the 20 years he has known him.
9. Has promised a new type of politics that promoted unity but has continually attacked Clinton’s character and has gotten more and more negative in his campaign tactics (BTW his wife said she won’t support Clinton if she were to get the nomination – how is that unity for democrats?)
10. Agreed to serve his full term in the senate before an attempt to run for president.
11. Spoke out about how we need to do more in Afghanistan, but did not hold one substantive meeting while chairing the foreign relations committee that had power to make important decisions regarding Afghanistan.
12. Had one of his adviser meet privately with the Canadian government to assure them he didn’t really mean what he said about NAFTA (that adviser still works for his campaign), yet had the audacity to say that if he were Clinton he would have fired Penn (she removed him from his leadership position within her campaign).
12. Agreed to campaign public financing in the general election and is now backing out
Posted by: BHO is a Hypocrite | April 14, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
WHY IS THE PATH TO 911 NOT ALLOWED TO BE RELEASED?
BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE CLINTONS HAD NOT ONLY KNOWN PRE-911 THAT BIN LADEN WAS DANGEROUS BUT ALSO SHOWS THAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT ( PRE-911) 8-10 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN AND YET DIDNT! PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF THIS IN A COUNTRY SHE SAID SHE LOVED!!
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
millie lou
nice job caring about others.
thats why i like obama he is good to his core a very faithful man
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
millie lou
nice job caring about others.
thats why i like obama he is good to his core a very faithful man
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
it is very telling,not one rebuttle ,so i take it that the obamaites agree that he is a marxist.really makes you wonder what their vision for all of us working stiffs is.
Posted by: don tufts | April 14, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
millie-lou and the OBAMA Zombies: You want Hillary to pack up because you know your NObama is losing his legs as people get to know his character more and before he transforms into a wolf from under the sheep skin.
NOBAMA – the Divider will never be our President.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
HILARY CANT RELEASE HER OWN PAPERS IN THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES? I BET IF HER SUPPORTERS TOLD HER THEY WERE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HER UNLESS SHE DID SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO!
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I am in touch with his pastor. He said our chickens came home to roost in the 9-11 debacle.
Remember, we trained Osama Bin Laudin, and his entire cadre of murderers.
Bin Laudin, our boy. We did it. CIA money. US. You.
Our chickens. Anyone want to argue the facts on that?
The pastor was precisely correct. 9-11 was our chickens, come home to roost.
You dont even need to ‘consider’ why the President didnt lift a finger to stop it after the first one hit.
He likes reading story books.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Obama is indeed poised and self-confident. But the current uproar over his impromptu sociology lesson in San Francisco about “bitter” voters in Pennsylvania raise questions about his self-discipline, and his understanding of how easy it is for a politicians in modern politics to lose control of his or her public image.
Clinton has her own baggage, to put it mildly. But it’s been rummaged through for years, so what Democrats see is pretty much what they would get.
The frustration emanating from the Clintonites comes from being unable to say in public what they think in private.
Little wonder why. Bill Clinton’s comments comparing Obama’s support in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson’s were certainly impolitic. But it’s absurd to contend, as many Democrats indignantly do, that they amounted to a shocking low blow or to “playing the race card.”
The reaction underscored the essential prissiness of the Democratic contest so far. One can be sure the general election will not be such a delicate affair.
Posted by: Indus | April 14, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
BHI is a Hypocrite – Well said.Could not agree with you more.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
SHE ASK FOR IT , AND SHE FINALLY GOT IT
FINALLY OBAMA IS NOT TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK , BUT HIT HER HARD BACK.
IF YOU CLINTONIANS DON’T BURY HRC NOW , WE WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Harry | April 14, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
If any of the comments here are indicitave of the Democratic party as a whole, we are headed for certain disaster in November regardless of the candidates we support. The ignorance and empty rhetoric is completely appalling. It’s as if the people on this board are all paid schills for FOX News on a mission to tear our country apart.
I can only hope that the Democratic party as a whole is more educated, informed and tolerant than most of the comments on here would suggest. If not, we’re all doomed to four more years (at least) of Republican mismanagement and ineptitude, and we’ll have nobody to blame but ourselves.
I implore you all to come together and help us recover from the last eight years. We need to stay united!
Posted by: chris | April 14, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
ChinaMan,
Wishful thinking!!( Your lady might had a better chance if Billy did not cheat on her!! Take it or Leave it!!)
OBAMA IS AMERICA!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
I’ve never in my life seen such bitterness as expressed in this blog, not to mention “clinging” to some pretty warped ideas about faith. Looks like Obama had a point.
Posted by: Ted | April 14, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Not answering an idiotic post about Marxism doesnt prove anything. You probably think that just because you didnt find any WMDs in Iraq, there still are.
That is not “proof”.
Posted by: bruce becker | April 14, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Blog,
I see some joker has been spoofing my posts again. WCM is a consistent Hillary supporter, I always have been, always will be. Goofballs that claim otherwise are pathetic folks from the right trying to disrupt the Democratic dialogue.
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Only Hillary Clinton stands up for all voters!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 14, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
To Melissa,
What all information/papers do u need. Let me know – Maybe I can get it for you :)
Posted by: To Melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
21 applause’s 5 laughs 4 mentions of woman.
I think he done a wonderful ,thoughtful
He is a good man to his core .
he seemed very comfortable. the audience seemed to respond very favorable to him.
they now know why people are voting for this man. He bring great hope
He admitted that he is also a sinner and he doesn’t know everything but he will take and think things through
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
OBAMA the REAL DIVIDER: In order to fool Americans and save himself from the pastor controversy he DIVIDED us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is DIVIDING us on ‘economic inequalities’.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUE REASON CLINTON GAVE A PARDON TO FALN? A TERRORIST GROUP THAT KILLED AMERICANS BY SETTING OFF BOMBS? AMERICANS SHE LOVED AND THE COUNTRY SHE IS SUPPOST TO FIGHT FOR NOT AGAINST?
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
You hate mongers really need to get a life and get off your pepcid ac.
Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
You hate mongers really need to get a life and get off your pepcid ac.
Posted by: Rob | April 14, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
HOW ABOUT ALL THE ONES SHE WAS ASKED TO BRING FORWARD!
TO MELISSA -WOW ARE YOU A FAN? OR SHOULD I LOCK MY DOORS?
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
ChinaMan,
Your lady takes money from all kinds of Lobbyists still cannot beat our small donation and you are talking about Economy!! Think before taking money from Lobbyists to destroy Middle class Americans!!
Billy took 800k from Colombian trade backers!! So that they can return the favor by destroying America!! Hello Mark Penn!! Clintons need your dirty mind and money!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
RC: YES WE CAN! Yex We Can Expose NObama:
• Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
• Obama is endorsed by New Black Pather Party which is an extremist hate group
• Lied to American public on national TV that he was never in the pews during the anti-American, non-patriotic statements made by his pastor an in his ‘great speech’ agreed that he was in the pews.
• Obama is involved with Tony Rezko for years even after he knew all about his corruption and ties with the UK’s corrupt businessman who helped terrorists. He admitted recently that Rezko contributed 250K for his presidential bid and not 60K as told by Obama earlier.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
OBAMA the REAL DIVIDER: In order to fool Americans and save himself from the pastor controversy he DIVIDED us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is DIVIDING us on ‘economic inequalities’.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
ChinaMan,
Your lady takes money from all kinds of Lobbyists still cannot beat our small donation and you are talking about Economy!! Think before taking money from Lobbyists to destroy Middle class Americans!!
Billy took 800k from Colombian trade backers!! So that they can return the favor by destroying America!! Hello Mark Penn!! Clintons need your dirty mind and money!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Del, thank you for the only insightful comment on this article. Tomorrow, both candidates will address the steel workers union for an endorsement. Obama makes one blunder after another, and we must analyze this incessantly instead of focusing on the issues. He is the Sanjaya of the race, trying to get by on charm for lack of real talent. Either that or he likes the taste of his feet. I think he’s just arrogant and jockeying for a promotion while it looks like the opportunity is hot. Not this time. He’s a liberal running on a weak record.
Posted by: Genevieve | April 14, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Who is sounding bitter now? Obama, our savior, is bitter about being called on his elitism. Hillary Clinton has worked hard everyday during this campaign to push back the media’s barrage of negative coverage on her. She has held her ground with great dignity. Mr. Obama has been the darling of the media and he and his wife, Michelle, have shown elitism and bitterness towards a country that has given them so much. Hillary’s universal health care plan covers everyone – which voters will be among the 15 million left out of Obama’s health care plan? That makes me bitter. As our economy plummets and Americans are facing forclosure or an inability to pay increasing rates, we need Hillary’s knowledge of the economy and how to get government to work for the people.
Posted by: Bobby | April 14, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
SHE HAS NO ROOM TO SAY SHE HAS ANY MORE PLANS ON ECONOMY SHE MAY HAVE A PLAN THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT SHE CAN MAKE THEM WORK- ASK THE FARMERS AND BUFFALO!
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Obama’s spiritual advisor, mentor and uncle-like figure did it again – this time he puked hatred at a funeral – HOW LOW CAN OBAMA’s pastor go? And Obama will still find a way to defned him tomorrow. WOW! What a character!
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
chrmn
you only wished . Hillary is a big elitist with hers and billy’s 109 million last year betcha it is a hell of lot more now. Bill Clinton is a lobbyist he is selling the Columbia trade deal.
She has sold out the unions walmart.
she has sold out the small towns that have little to no chance to recover because of selling out America to the Highest Bidder.
Hillary when she proudly states spent her summers at grandpa house at the lake. was not considered at that time middle America(working class poor)
only the elites had summer homes. poor people could barely afford to pay the homes that they lived in yet alone have a second summer home.
heck her second homes news paper is ENDORSING BARACK OBAMA. i guess that means second home town doesn’t really like her win at any and all costs,, plus she can not see the struggles of regular folks
she done
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Hillary’s knowledge of the economy and how to get government to work for the people-Posted by: Bobby
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Nope Not this time..You are Lobbyists Lovers, making 100+ millions by destroying Millions of American Dreams!!
WE WANT CHANGE FROM BUSH AND CLINTIONS!!
YES WE CAN!! OBAMA08!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
IM GOING TO BED! BUT I HAVE TO SAY GOD HELP US IF SHE WINS!! WE WILL NEED HIM!
Posted by: melissa | April 14, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
It was never just about the pastor. It was about Obama’s character and judgment to sit in the church for 20 years listening to the filth, racism and anti-American hatred. This isn’t about people being bitter or angry. It is about Obama’s Marxist belief that people turn to religion and guns out of bitterness.
In order to fool Americans and save himself from the pastor controversy he DIVIDED us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is DIVIDING us on ‘economic inequalities’.
WAKE up AMERCIA. HOW CAN THIS NObama BE AN UNITER? He is scary. He is like a wolf inside a sheep skin.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
So much fear displayed by those of you who refuse to accept that Hillary is just more of the same. Karl Rove learned everything he knows from Bill and Hillary Clinton. Don’t you know that? The fear displayed here by all the Clintonites clearly exhibits what has taken place over the last seven years in this country. Can’t you see that you are being taken? Our current administration has managed to make you afraid – of any and everything – but especially of anything that threatens their hold on our democracy. It has worked. Don’t you see that they control you with fear and (because of the sorry state of public education in this country) ignorance? If you studied history or government – either in High School or on your own – you should realize that one of the principles being applied here is an ignorant, fearful electorate is easy to control. It is incredibly sad (not to mention dangerous) and we must turn this around NOW. We are in danger of being a failed nation. Perhaps not in my lifetime or yours, but we are well on our way. Hillary is a part of the political machine. She and Bill are only interested in power. They have a lot of old scores to settle and that is the only reason they want control of the white house. Which means NOTHING constructive would ever happen in a Clinton white house. Bill had his day in the sun. But that’s over. Even Bill has lost touch with reality. The Clintons ARE the establishment now. If Clinton worshippers would take a deep breath, step back and look at this objectively, they would see it. However, I don’t think you want to. So hold onto your fear if you wish. It’s just a very sad way to go through life.
And just for the record, I grew up in Mississippi where the public education system is routinely ranked as 49th or 50th in the country. (Always in a face to the bottom with Arkansas.) I am firmly planted in the middle class. I have lived in a trailer park in my lifetime. I am a military brat. But I have spent a lot of years trying to educate myself. I just wish everyone would.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
down with hillary down with hillary
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA bARACK OBAMA NEXT 8 YEARS BETTER THAN THE LAST 8 YEARS
Posted by: LAUREN | April 14, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
NEVERVOTEOBAMA,
You said those Bulls before IOWA!
You said those Bulls after loosing 13th straights!!
You said those Bulls after barely winning Ohio and then loosing delegates in TX!!
America did not listen to your Bulls then!!
They will not listen to your Bulls now with all your Lobbyists money combined!!
OBAMA08!! NORTH CAROLINA IS WAITING FOR OOBAMA!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Lauren: You are naive when you depend on news paper endorsements. We all know the OBAMA has been the DARLING of media as he gives them money through his advertisements. The Local news papers want his money – NOT him.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Barack has compassion
Hillary is bankrupt of compassion she doesnt understand people are struggling
Hill i will pray for you tonight.
good night to all of you may God watch over all of us
Posted by: Lauren | April 14, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
ChinaMan,
We look at Vote counts and delegate counts to this date!! Not on your Bulls!!
Wake up or Dream On!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Frustrated poor NObama compared Hillary with Annie Oakley with a disgusting laugh on his face – and this is not being sexiest? But when anybody compares NObama’s victory in SC with JC Jackson’s it is racist? What a double standard and NObama talks about – being a UNITER? Give me a break!
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Is it a coincidence that his neighbors are Wright, Ayers and Farrakhan? I’d love to see those block parties.
Posted by: Mack | April 14, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
RC: NObama is leading in the delegates ONLY because all his DIRTY LAUNDRY of keeping company with terrorists, racists and anti-Americans, his ‘misjudgments’, bone headed decisions, elitist ways to look down on average Americans and millions of lies are coming out now – much after 2/3 of Americans got ‘FOOLED’ and force fed by the main stream media with this ‘SHAMELESS ARROGANT’ – NOBAMA.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Hey, Poster You People, before you criticize other people for their grammar ,better check out your own. You have a misplaced modifier in your first sentence. Who is doing “the reading” ,get it moron.
Posted by: Pissed in Pa | April 14, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Hey, Poster You People, before you criticize other people for their grammar ,better check out your own. You have a misplaced modifier in your first sentence. Who is doing “the reading” ,get it moron.
Posted by: Pissed in Pa | April 14, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
I guess I’m an elitist too. I’ve spent most of my life in small town America and you don’t understand what Obama was saying you either haven’t spent much time in rural America in the last 20 years or you’ve had a bag over your head. He is 100% correct. Rural America is bitter – and with good reason.
Posted by: PulSamsara | April 14, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Americans got ‘FOOLED’
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ChinaMan,
Are you calling Great Americans fools?
Are you from China? Tell us the truth please!!
We may vote for different candidates, but WE AMERICANS ARE NOT FOOLS!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
He is very observant. He really understands the typical American. Too bad he wasn’t so observant when he was sitting in his church for 20 years and pretending not to hear those hate sermons pastor Wright was spewing.
Posted by: Mack | April 14, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
PulSamsara, thank you for being the voice of reason! I personally have been pissed since Bush took office. I am pissed because I teach college and see that 20 year olds cannot READ or WRITE! No child left behind, my lily white butt. I am pissed because this president and his cronies lied us into a war because they wanted to be EVEN WEALTHIER than they already are. I am pissed because Bill Clinton passed NAFTA which made it possible for jobs to leave this country and never come back. If you live in America and aren’t bitter over what has happened to our once great country, then you haven’t been paying attention.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Obama Responds to Recent Clinton/McCain Attacks
Barack Obama has responded to recent attacks from Hillary Clinton and John McCain which are based upon distorting a recent statement by Obama:
Barack Obama launched into a fiery offensive this evening in a speech before the United Steelworkers Union in…
Posted by: Liberal Values | April 14, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
RC: YOU TOO ARE an OBAMA Zombie. You are very GOOD at twisting words just like NObama. I am an proud american and a patriot who will never vote for NObama who keeps company of anti-Americans, terrorists and racists. May be it is time you explain which side are you on – American ot anti-American?Please tell us truth please!
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
RC: The DREAM is OVER as ‘NEVERVOTEFOROBAMA’ said. Now we all know that Obama is a Wolf under sheep skin and his skin is tearing off:
Obama calls small town hard working Americans – bitter people who cling to religion and guns to express their frustration.
• Obama says – “I would not punish my daughters with babies”
• For 20+years Obama is friends with anti-American, racial radicals like his anti-American Pastor and a former Pentagon bomber – Weather Underground William Ayers and another radical Louis Farrakhan
• Obama voted “Present” to a bill that would stop “Adult Porn Shops” from opening up next to our children’s schools
• Obama knew that his church gave life time achievement award to Farrakhan who says ‘Judaism is a gutter religion’ and also knew that his pastor visited Lyba’s terror monger Gaddaffi.
• In order to come clean he threw his grand mother under the bus. Compared her private statements with his pastor’s public bashing of America, Called his grand mother (who raised him) a ‘Typical White Person’. HOW LOW can you GO?
• Obama does not wear American flag lapel pin, he does not believe in holding his hand on his heart for national anthem.
• Michelle Obama says: For the first time in her adult life she is proud of this country and AMerica is a mean country.
• Obama made statements about NAFTA in Ohio to fool the voters and provided behind the door assurance to Canada that his statements should not be taken seriously.
• Obama requested $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time and Michell’s salary went up to 320K (from 121K) within weeks after Obama became senator.
• Obama is endorsed by New Black Pather Party which is an extremist hate group
• Lied to American public on national TV that he was never in the pews during the anti-American, non-patriotic statements made by his pastor an in his ‘great speech’ agreed that he was in the pews.
• Obama is involved with Tony Rezko for years even after he knew all about his corruption and ties with the UK’s corrupt businessman who helped terrorists. He admitted recently that Rezko contributed 250K for his presidential bid and not 60K as told by Obama earlier.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
NeverVote…..I am happy to tell you that even you, yes in all your ignorant glory, will have a place at the Obama table. Your ignorance is stunning, yes, and sad but undoubtedly curable. Obama will be the next President of the United States. Accept it and move on.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
If you are so pissed now, where were you 4 years ago? I guess it takes 8 years to get some people really pissed. Back Obama and you’ll have another 4 years to be pissed when McCain takes office.
Posted by: Mack | April 14, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
OBAMACHANT
NOYOUCANT!
WOW MELISSA,
THAT WAS GREAT!
AND FULL OF FACTS.
THANKS FOR THE SANITY ;-)
Posted by: EYES OPEN | April 14, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
NEVERVOTEOBAMA,
Your dream may be over because your lady is loosing after taking millions from Lobbyists, Mark Penn, Billy..list goes on!!
My Dream is alive and Kicking!!
RC is in NC!! North Carolina is Obama Country!! Yes after NC, it will be officially Over for all you Lobbyists
Lovers!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!! OUR SMALL DONATIONS WILL DESTROY ALL YOUR Lobbyists!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Why he did not tell his comments infront of Pennsylvanians instead he told the wealhty Sanfranciscans.
It seemed he praises the wealthy and look down to poor people.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 14, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Once again Obama thinks he is so smart that he can just talk about anything to distract from the fact that he is out of touch with the rest of America! This effort to talk about Hillary and guns as a distraction from what he said you got to do better than that, I guess life for Obama was really hard growing up in Hawaii were most people spend there life time wanting to go there. It’s like he had it so hard, give me a break, how many people grow up in Hawaii and have it so bad that they go on to receive there PH Degree I feel so sorry for Obama. I grew up in a single parent home and I never did drugs, but I have been threw hard times but I can relate to other people. I always depend on God to get me threw life. Who does Obama depend on or should I say what does he cling to you know since he had it so bad that he chose to try drugs? Oh I almost forgot that was just bad judgment when he was going threw bad times!
Posted by: Timothy | April 14, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
TJ-
You’re right,the White House isn’t for sale. It was only the Lincoln bedroom when the Clintons were in residence, remember?
Posted by: jlw | April 14, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Once again Obama thinks he is so smart that he can just talk about anything to distract from the fact that he is out of touch with the rest of America! This effort to talk about Hillary and guns as a distraction from what he said you got to do better than that, I guess life for Obama was really hard growing up in Hawaii were most people spend there life time wanting to go there. It’s like he had it so hard, give me a break, how many people grow up in Hawaii and have it so bad that they go on to receive there PH Degree I feel so sorry for Obama. I grew up in a single parent home and I never did drugs, but I have been threw hard times but I can relate to other people. I always depend on God to get me threw life. Who does Obama depend on or should I say what does he cling to you know since he had it so bad that he chose to try drugs? Oh I almost forgot that was just bad judgment when he was going threw bad times!
Posted by: Timothy | April 14, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
NEVERVOTEOBAMA,
Your dream may be over because your lady is loosing after taking millions from Lobbyists, Mark Penn, Billy..list goes on!!
My Dream is alive and Kicking!!
RC is in NC!! North Carolina is Obama Country!! Yes after NC, it will be officially Over for all you Lobbyists
Lovers!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!! OUR SMALL DONATIONS WILL DESTROY ALL YOUR Lobbyists money!! I am just getting motivated to Donate more to OBAMA!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
RC: Isn’t NC a republican state? Why are you so bubbling over Obama? He will never win that state in general election. Thus it is not very important for democratic primary. The important swing states are Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Indiana and Pennsylvania which HILLARY has won/will win over NObama. This proves why Hillary makes the better choice. But wait- you Obama Zombies are not taught to work on ‘substance’ or ‘details’ thus you may not understand anyways
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Dough,
Are you sure Hillary’s supporters are bitter?
Infact, they are not bitter and not all of them are women.
I think Obama is bitter because he could not get some of Pennsylvanians voters.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 14, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
TJ/Lauren,
Notice that Sundlen Miller describes Obama as going on the offensive. Keep in mind that Obama has been feeding offensive remarks on the bitterness topic for three days now. You guys are working 24×7 acting as his apologists. Keep up the great work!
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Obama, he will say or do anything to make sure that he is not elected!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 14, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
Mack, I’ve been pissed since George Bush took office. The Douchebag in Chief stole two elections. Fact. We all know it. Yes, that made a lot of people, myself included, very angry. His presidency became the white noise of scandal. It’s just been one lie after another. So many that it would be impossible to list them all. (Many website try.) It has gotten so bad that at this point I think that Cheney himself could slaughter a baby on television during prime time and people would simply yawn and change the channel. It’s like we EXPECT this level of corruption in our government. We certainly expect that level of evil out of Cheney. I think that is what makes you and those of your ilk suspicious of Obama. We have learned not to believe anybody who offers us hope. George Orwell said, “In a time of hype, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” Obama is telling the truth and people are fearful. I’m tired of being pissed and bitter about the way things are. I prefer being hopeful about the way things can one day be in this country. I am sorry that so many people are so afraid because it is preventing so many of you from understanding that Barack Obama is NOT the enemy. The status quo, which includes the Clintons, is the enemy. Business as usual in Washington is the enemy. Let’s do America a favor and end the gridlock. Obama can do this, whether you think so or not. He can.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Hillary misleads voters. Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and praised corporations for mounting “a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA.” Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress. On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.” The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.” In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”
Who is the elitist? Hillary cares more about the health care industry than the health of people. Nobody can argue that the biggest problem with health care in the United States are pharmaceuticals and insurers. Hillary Clinton became the second largest recipient in the Senate of health care industry contributions. “As she runs for re-election to the Senate from New York this year and lays the groundwork for a possible presidential bid in 2008, Mrs. Clinton is receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers and insurers. Nationwide, she is the No. 2 recipient of donations from the industry, trailing only Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, a member of the Republican leadership.” Raymond Hernandez and Robert Pear, “Once an Enemy, Health Industry Warms to Clinton,” New York Times, July 12, 2006. Lastly, her vote for the Iraq war was the greatest error in judgement for the health of thousands of U.S. men and women in uniform. Not to mention the health of millions of Iraqis.
Posted by: Matt | April 14, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
ChinaMan,
What can I say about You?
You said in your Previous comments Americans are Fools!!
Listen Bud, in NOV, there will be no Red States or Blue States, It is United States of America!!
Look at the voting numbers of those swing states, Dems are voting way larger then Republicans!! This is just a start!All your traditional calculation proved wrong when OBAMA won 92% white state IOWA! You got it?
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
she does NOT have a message.
In fact she does have one : “I want all power possible”, but she could not pornounce it aloud.
Shame on her.
Shame forever.
Posted by: Linda, Florida | April 14, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
The CRY BABY Obama complains that Hillary is using republican talking points and making him look bad. Oh… NO.. what a pitty… this guy wants to be the democratic nominee and he starts crying about Hillary’s attacks. How can he face the Republican attacks which will be 10 times harder? NObama is VERY VERY WEAK. Where should he hide now?
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Timothy,
I agree with you.
Most of us raised by single parent also.
Even he was raised by single parent, he grew up in a rich family.
He went to a private high school in Indonesia and a private law school here.
How many people have an opportunity like him?
Posted by: crisis08 | April 14, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
RC: WAKE up before it is too late. I know there is no point is saying this to zombies. You are naive to take NObama’s false hope of there will be no Red States or Blue States. Dream on buddy. Dream On. NObama the divider can never be our President. period.
Posted by: chiman | April 14, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Thanks for that, Matt! Nice work. Hillary is, above all else, an old school politician who will do and say whatever it takes to win an election. She learned from the best! (Billy Boy. They didn’t call him Slick Willie for nothing.) It sickens me to even see her mug on the tube anymore. Lies, lies and more lies. It’s nauseating.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
WOW THANKS FOR THT GREAT VIDEO WAS WORTH THE HR AND HALF WATCHING IT KATY, AND PASSING IT ROUND TO ALL US OBAMAITES, WHICH IM PROUD TO SAY
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND SENATOR OBAMA
Posted by: carri | April 14, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
private law school here-crisis08
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Heard about Scholarships? That is how he got to Harvard, Bright indeed, that is why he is running for President and you and me are not!!
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
ChinaMan,
What can I say about You?
You said in your Previous comments Americans are Fools!!
Listen Bud, in NOV, there will be no Red States or Blue States, It is United States of America!!
Look at the voting numbers of those swing states, Dems are voting way larger then Republicans!! This is just a start!All your traditional calculation proved wrong when OBAMA won 92% white state IOWA! You got it?
OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | April 14, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
THAT’S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT SO MANY OF
B O’S FOLLOWERS!
THEIR WAY OF FIGHTING BACK IS TO FORGET ABOUT USING ACTUAL FACTS…..
AND THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST EDUCATED OF OUR VOTERS.
HAH!
THE BUBBLES HAVE GOTTEN TO R C’S BRAIN
LAUREN, YOUR LEADER IS AN EMPTY SUIT WEIGHED DOWN BY A LOT OF HEAVY BAGGAGE… LIKE WRIGHT, AND REVERAND MEEKS AND AUCHI, AND LOUIS FARAQUAN.
HIS PATRIOTISM IS QUESTIONABLE… HIS RESUME IS AS EMPTY AS HIS SUIT.
MANY OF THE “FACT’S” TAPPED INTO THIS BLOG BY SOME OF YOUR EVEN MORE MEAN-SPIRITED COMPADRES DO NOTHING TO FURTHER THE CREDIBILITY OF YOUR CANDIDATE; RATHER THEY RAISE QUESTIONS AS TO THE A B I L I T Y OF THESE PEOPLE TO COME TO AN UNJADED DECISION AS TO WHOM THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY BE VOTING FOR.
YOU WILL NOTICE, WILL YOU NOT, THAT IN AL THIS SPACE I HAVE DONE N O T H I N G
TO MOVE THIS BLOG FORWARD.
BUT I HAVE DONE SO WITHOUT MALIGNING ANYONE OR RESORTING TO A HYPERBOLE OF PAP.
AND, BY THE WAY, NOT ONE OF YOUR ILK
(I LIKE THAT WORD) HAS USED THE WORD “ELITE” CORRECTLY.
Posted by: EYES OPEN | April 14, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Hilarly Clinton stated that the people she knows do not cling to religion because they are bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor. I would like to know what people is she referring to. Is she speaking of me and every American and not just the people she knows.
Does Hilarly Clinton know the meaning of bitter. Let me explain to Hilarly what bitter means. Bitter means; hard to bear; hard to admit; or accept the truth how our government has treated our lives as expendable.
Unfortunately, I am a 40 year old materially poor American citizen. I do embrace my faith with God, my family and my community. I consider that to be “spiritually rich” in order to get through these hard times of our economic issues, health insurance issues and tax increases etc;
So yes, it is hard to bear; hard to admit; or accept the truth how our government has continually left the American people without a voice on these important issues. Instead, we as a people are given what is left at the bottom of the barrel, which are issues on guns, immigration and trade agreements.
And yet, nothing really gets done with those issues. Those issues are ways our government keep the American people busy fighting with each other and out of the governments hair “sort a way of speaking”.
Obama is not by far looking down on the American people. Indeed, he is trying to left our voices along with his own voice that Americans need and want a change. Sometimes, it is hard to admit the truth about ourselves and sometimes the truth is distorted. By all means, Hilarly Clinton should know that, while still trying to “save face” with the American people.
Obama is a man that is willing and able to bring the American people together. The American people wants a president that they can trust with the truth, not one that distort the truth. I believe Hilarly Clinton is the one that is “out of touch”. (signing out, for your eyes only)
Posted by: Mia Williams | April 14, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Al Snyder, wherever you are, I just want to thank you for your post! (I’m reposting it below.) Well said, my good man, well said! I concur.
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My grand father is a WWII vet and a retired businessman, who gave to and was envolved in his community. Before, this election process had even started, he said he was no longer is going to vote. His reasoning is that corruption is rampant and he is no longer represented. So, why bother? He believes that we are going down hill. But, he is not bitter (sarcasm).
He lives in a small town in PA.
I find it funny–the kind of funny that makes your stomach churn and your head ache–that everyone is always up in arms about lying politicians, but when they get some straight, unsweetened truth, they run to the forked-tongued, word-twisting, lying-liars. As far as I am concerned, go ahead, vote for the manipulaters that build bridges to nowhere, get us bogged down in a war due to leadership incompentence and who avoid the hard issues like immigration, social security, health care, to take on the really tough ones like steroids in major league baseball. Just, shut the hell up, when you get screwed, I do not want to hear it.
Posted by: al snyder | Apr 13, 2008 11:32:07 PM
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Mia Williams, thank you! That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. God bless you.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Eyes Open, is it really necessary to shout everything you say? If you are not aware of it, all caps is the equivalent of shouting in print. Please stop.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
As it has been said…All the candidates have made goofs, gaffes, and misspoke. And yes unfortunately, some have repeatedely lied! Playing hard-balled, negative and divisive politics, one has done more damage to the party than their rival. With this said, I’m willing to accept Sen. Obama’s performance on the campaign trail because he will have a much BETTER chance beating John McCain than Hillary Clinton. She has too many negatives; she has not brought in the number of new voters, nor does she accepts responsibility and/or accountabilty for her actions/inactions readily. I’m looking for a leader that I can beleive in most of the time – not a pathetic liar who will do or say anything to get elected! Hillary Clinton has set women back 50 years with her teary-eyes in NH; her bi-polar acting behavior in OH/TX; her outright lie regarding Bosnia – who will put their child in harms way to say they have foreign policy experience? And yes, she decided Penn should stay on her campaign trial after so-called deceiving her on the Colombia trade deal. GO FIGURE…FOR AN EXPERIENCE CANDIDATE WHO SAYS SHE READY ON DAY ONE, SHE HAS RUN AN INEFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN. THIS LEADS ME TO BELIEVE SHE WILL RUN AN INEFFECTIVE WHITE HOUSE AS WELL.
Obama ’08
Posted by: Lani, GA | April 14, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Hillary exaggerates about being under fire in Bosnia and foreign leaders laugh… it’s reassuring and humorous after 8 years of being lied to to their faces and waiting for the Bush stab in the back or blackmail into another war ploy.
Obama unthinkingly insults foreign leaders or a people the way he insulted the good people of the heartland of this country regarding their faith and their beliefs, and we’re AT WAR. AGAIN. Obama’s DUBM war. Over something stupid he said.
The man has coasted through his entire life relying on his looks, and being able to “act white” while passing as black which has always ingratiated himself with the white liberal power structure. He has not the discernment nor the wisdom to be the President of the United States, and may never develop it either at the rate he’s going. Because he’s far too arrogant, far too endowed with a sense of entitlement, and far too pumped up by the GOP-owned MSM and GOP pundits bending over backwards to give him passes on serious flaws of character and maturity like this, to ever learn from his horrendous mistakes.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 14, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Millie-Lou.
So sorry to offend; sometimes I do it because I’m very near sighted and with the keyboard between my head and the screen, I have difficulty reading what I’ve written.
But I have read some of your posts and must say that they were insignificant, lacked facts and at least one was rather far fetched,
Nonetheless, I will try to squint a lttle harder if you will promise to remember that YOU ARE N O T MY MOTHER!
give ‘em hell, hillary!!!!!
Posted by: EYES OPEN | April 14, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
And yes, Americans are BITTER! They’VE been promised THIS and THAT by the Bushs and Clintons long enough! Americans are facing foreclosures, poor educational options, energy crisis, lack of good paying jobs despite higher degrees, and too much partisan politics. It’s time to make a change for someone willing to change the system for the better while representing the American people – NOT THEMSELVES!
Obama ’08
Posted by: Lani, GA | April 14, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
CHIMAN…..
Keep up the good work.
You’ve got a terrific mind
and you’re using it for a good cause!
The thought of Obama in the White House having dinner with his unique quarry of friends… and his limited political no-how… and his questionable patriotism is frightening!
As for me, I’ll take Hillary… and if Bill comes as a tag-a-long…. great.
Speaking of tag-a-longs…. where are they storing Michelle?
Posted by: EYES OPEN | April 14, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
I’ve got a theory that most of these crazy right wing posts come from the exact same IP addresses as the pro-Hillary and anti-Obama posts. In fact, I bet a little shallow digging could turn up a handful of IP addresses who just come up here and say the same things over and over. Wouldn’t it be strange if it could be VERY easily proven that someone is being paid to make these insulting blog posts?
Boy, that would be embarrassing – wouldn’t it? Right-wingers up here astro-turfing blogs… no way, I’m sure.
Posted by: Tech Guy | April 14, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
go for it, techie guy!
i’m pretty sure you’re right!
Posted by: EYES OPEN | April 14, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
hillary is losing and will be out of the race at some point. this garbage won’t last forever. too bad hillary goosesteppers, your candidate had it all and she blew it. she wants to run the country and she can’t even run a frickin campaign…what a loser
Posted by: Michael | April 14, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
When is everyone going to learn that Obama’s “hope” and “change” talk are hollow platitudes void of any substantive meaning? Seriously, this guy’s entire campaign from state senator to potential democratic nominee has been staged. Everything from his lack of a voting record by voting “present” all the time, to his conversion from Islam to make him electable.
Of course Hillary is a liar as well. Who didn’t know that? But since I won’t be voting democrat, I’d just like to put in some outside advice: Obama isn’t electable. Think about it. His platform is essentially anti-american, what with his refusal to say the national anthem, his connection with Jeremiah Wright, and now these remarks demeaning gun owners and religious people. How in the world can he expect to be elected with that platform?
The republicans must have orchestrated the Obama campaign b/c while he will win the nomination, you democrats need to realize that you’ve shot yourselves in the foot. Oh well though. Who cares. Not like any of the major candidates really has a plan to seriously alter things (besides Obama’s closet Marxist views).
Posted by: Seth | April 14, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Barack Obama really Fights Back but remains Dignified unlike Hillary who has turned this nomination into a “sideshow” with her Lies & Personal Attacks!
Where is the leadership of The Democratic Party? do they want to self destruct the November election opportunity?
Posted by: John B Sheffield | April 14, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
I think you nailed it, Tech Guy. Because, I was thinking to myself while reading some of these posts – especially the really long ones taken directly from right-wing conspiracy theorist websites – that surely there aren’t THIS many stupid people in America? No, this is obviously repugs trying to stir things up. McCain will still lose to Obama. Nice try, Neocons!
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Clearly Americans can’t agree to anything, how do you expect our politians to agree and compromise either, it’s a sad state of affairs when we face so many issues. I propose that the country consider spliting in two, a red area and a blue.
Posted by: Charles | April 14, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Yes, how dare she? How dare she run against him in a campaign? Doesn’t she know he’s the golden boy how has been handed the world on a platter ever since he entered the Illinois legislature, and he’s entitled to get a free ride from everybody?
Posted by: meme | April 14, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Meme. One word for you. Delusional. Both you and Hillary. She has already lost the nomination. And how very Rovian of you to take Hillary’s attitude about this campaign, i.e. her attitude of entitlement, and say this is what Obama is doing. Damn, but she’s a good politician – just as good as Rove. It IS impressive, I will admit, that she has embedded her tactics so fully into her supporters’ minds. Impressive but completely unproductive. She’s an old-school politician through and through. I’m reminded of something that Thomas Jefferson said, “A politician looks forward only to the next election. A statesman looks forward to the next generation.” Hillary is politician. Barack Obama is a statesman.
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Obama has a lot of you drinking the Kool Aid. Too bad for you. He is arrogant and talks down to everyone. When he gets irritated, he gets nasty. If he wins the election, he’ll wake up sounding like Cris Rock. And Congress will be 99% Republican.
Posted by: Tony | April 14, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Tony, I have to say the same about you as I did about Meme earlier. How very Rovian of you. Do you not recall what happened in Congress after Bill Clinton became president? The Clintons had (and for that matter, still have) so many enemies in the Republican party that the Repugs made certain they did not get a Democratic congress. And so now, here you are being a good little Rovian, saying that is what Obama will do. Um, I think Sir that it is you who have had way too much Hill-Billy Kool-aid. Wake up and smell your free will being sucked out of you.
I see nothing wrong with having a man of great intellect as our president. In fact, it’s about damn time!
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Bitter Mr. JackSmith, what are you talking about? If you want a woman as a president, there are a lot of female politicians who are really deserving to get elected because of their integrity and other personal traits, actual results and successful true experience, say, Condi. Hillary’s only advantages over them are the huge notoriety and understandable compassion due to Monica-Bill scandal. That’s it. Her tales of experience remind a wife of a cruise ship’s captain staying 8 years in her plush cabin on the cruises and pretending she can handle the ship either. Maybe, she is sure she can, but how about the passengers: are we ready to risk? If she could not manage her own campaign, how in the world can she manage the whole country? Think again.
On the other hand, Obama is where he is now just because he is an outstanding intelligent person and a most promising leader who won support of millions of people, let alone many great politicians including even his rivals, just because of who is he. He had no father – capitalist to sponsor for young years, no spouse – AG, the governor, the president to sponsor after that. So he really knows the life, both domestic and foreign, coming from a single-working-mom family, spending years studying abroad, going through a Los Angeles community college, transferring to a top university and being a top student there (just paid out his student loans), then declining a comfortable law job offers to work with the poor instead.
It is not a coincidence the youth support him, and the eldest support Hillary: he is to the future, and she is from the past.
His wife said the right thing like: it is not about if he is ready, it is about if we are ready for him.
Even if he told the truth on bitter folks over there, it is a good way to recognize a problem and face up to it instead of making a happy face for the folks. Sure, if you have $109 millions, you can be really optimistic, but not in touch with bitter folks who have not.
Posted by: Alex | April 14, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Shame on you Obama, Calling people ignorant because they don’t “get” you? This is not about what Sen. Clinton is saying, it is about whah Obama says and think of Americans while pandering for campaign money and justifying why people does not support him.
Posted by: libre | April 14, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
Shame on you Obama even to defend yourself have to plagiarize senator Clinton. Where is that Intellect? Obama is a good writer, but hardly intellectual. His answers at the forum today, as usual… mumbling and no answer at all.
Posted by: libre | April 14, 2008, 4:09 am 4:09 am
His wife said the right thing like: it is not about if he is ready, it is about if we are ready for him. NO WE ARE NOT. Thank God.
Posted by: libre | April 14, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
Patriotic is not manipulating the citizens of USA and backing a illegal war . That’s unpatriotic . Because it has settle the USA in a economic nightmare. Is not patriotic if you have a system for decades were people do not have healtcare. Sorry for my englisch , i am from the Netherlands. Is not patriotic when you work on both sides of the table as the Clinton’s do.
You’re system is so sick that the dumbest a**hole could be pres. for 4 years ,and he did it so good , he stayed for 4 more years.
Is time for change in the USA and in World politics. The only one who can do it is President Obama ( i will start calling him from now on by PRESIDENT).
Obama got someting that none of the other competivers have. He can bring a movement like Ghandi did. So all democratics vote Obama or the rest of the world will think the average American is as dumb and corrupt as the president they choose. America got someting to make up to the rest of the world and to themself. SO VOTE OBAMA
Posted by: Harry | April 14, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
I can feel the hate and frustration of people in America, He is not wrong. War and destruction is rising from where ever there is fuel. Never the less. Now I understand when he talks about Bitterness. Cause here, Bitterness irradiate with too much hate and hate again, to a toxic level for America. How can you people make America a better place ?
Posted by: Thron | April 14, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
I can feel the hate and frustration of people in America, He is not wrong. War and destruction is rising from where ever there is fuel. Never the less. Now I understand when he talks about Bitterness. Cause here, Bitterness irradiate with too much hate and hate again, to a toxic level for America. How can you people make America a better place ?
Posted by: Thron | April 14, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
The difference between Bosnia and San Francisco?
Hillary Clintont’s graphic description of what was supposed to have happend in Bornia could not be misinterpteted – it was a downright lie.
Barack Obama’s message in San Francisco were essentially true, but delivered with a bad choice of words that were open to misinterpretation and exploitation by opponents.
The truth of what Obama is saying will prevail over the lies of Clinton.
Posted by: Donal McAuliffe | April 14, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
More forums like this one would give voters a pretty good idea on who they are voting for. I think we should hear from religious scholars as well as professors in economics and social studies and just plain folks of different ages and socio-economic background. Let the candidates answer our questions directly No media Filtrage.
this means No much money for the media well than the forum should be at the cost of a reasonable speech time. At least your station will be recognized as an honest people involed network.
and you guys can rotate too. the object isto let people make their decision based on fact not fiction.
Go!!! ABC
Posted by: ruthmatters | April 14, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
He should have just said it was late at night, and he’s old, tired, and easily confused… apparently the Hillary camp thinks that excuse flies pretty well.
Posted by: Ken | April 14, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
It shows Obamas heart, he uses the word bitter because he knows it, during his younger days he was so bitter about his life, and now he is grown goes hatred, Obama enjoyed listening to J.Wright(no relation; please!)for 20 years to avoid being bitter, unfortunately Michelle must still be feeling bitter until she’s sure that the husband will win the nomination.
Posted by: Tetta Wright | April 14, 2008, 5:47 am 5:47 am
Is Barack Pbama ever in tune with his thoughts? Don’t you think that with all his confusions, he will soon explode? BO is not delivering anymore. So much aloofness.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 14, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
Obama has surfaced his unethical heart. Michele is not alone. First, you understand yourself, try to adjust to the society and be in peace with yourself. It doesn’t seem that any of them have reached the level of compassion. Change thyself..That is the real change to change others. Why the farse andlie about yourself?
Posted by: Josephm | April 14, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
For months, Barack Obama and his campaign have relentlessly attacked Hillary Clinton’s character and integrity by using Republican talking points from the 1990s. The shame is his.
Sen. Clinton does know better — she knows better than to condescend and talk down to voters like Senator Obama did. Senator Obama’s outburst won’t change the fact that he has embraced his characterization of the millions of Americans who live in small towns.
Posted by: Victor | April 14, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Hillary supporters are becoming as nasty as vicious as the candidate herself! She seems to bring out the worst in people. With her inability to manage a campaign, a spouse and her willingness to lie and divide her own party it’s no surprise that Republicans want to run against her. Hillary is unethical and unelectable.
Posted by: Margaret | April 14, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
SHAME ON YOU MR.OBAMA!!!I know you and your wife are very bitter in the past but it is not our faulth that you were not born with a silver spoon. We are poor but we are not bitter to what we are because we don’t feel hate and life goes on.
Posted by: Tosca | April 14, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am
there are no adults in this race
Posted by: poetryman69 | April 14, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Thanks Obama, thanks for your answer. You were right, there’s some politics being played (quote). it is surprising during an election, especially a presidential election. thanks for remembering us that politics are nearly liars end thanks for remembering us that so many people got enough doom to believe you, you as a politician who wears the mask of the victim, victim of politics , while already senator and pretending to become president, this is to say, master of politics. I find you wear a pretty good “sheep-mask” for a wolf.
Posted by: USSEnterprise | April 14, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
The Rule of ABC
There were two presidents from the Adamses – A
Two from the Bushes – B
Two from the Clintons -C
Bill was the first, the second is Chelsea not Hillary.
My message to Chelsea – ditch your mother, endorse Obama, mobilise support for your presidency 2024.
Dele, Nigeria
Posted by: dele | April 14, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
Is this America rejoicing HATE!!!How can most Americans can vote for Obama I know the yourger voters most are elliterate like me but i think i have the intelligence to follow and observes Obama’s personality, he will be a dangerous personality to be in a high position in this country. Belive ME!!!
Posted by: B Conrand | April 14, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.
And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Posted by: RossiMas | April 14, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
WOW TED! That was a hella post you made on Obama the LIAR. I copied and printed it. I will be sending in as a signature on every email I send. It goes to show what a lying racist Obama is. All of what you posted was true and everything he’s done or hasn’t done he’s lied about.
Wow.
Posted by: Observer | April 14, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Nothing like showing off your arrogance, superiority, and effete-ism to the well-heeled in San Francisco! (Is Nancy Pelosi cringing yet?) You also have to wonder how Obama squares his mention of religion with his own “clinging” to Rev. Wright for about 20 years. What an idiot.
Posted by: jules | April 14, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am
Obama LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES.
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while sitting in the pew yes!”
Posted by: ted | Apr 13, 2008 8:51:44 PM
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Posted by: Observer | April 14, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Wow TJ and Ted you are scary. A little obsessed are we? Hmmm There are so many weird people on this forum. People who can’t think for themselves and believe everything the news dishes out. I feel sorry for you. Get educated. Obama is only defending himself. Hillary is using this for political gain. Anyone who can’t see that is blind. What a total manipulater she is. Her campaign is a disgrace! This will all be over soon. I watched his video of this speech and laughed until tears came out of my eyes. He has it right on! What a phony she is. Shame on her indeed!
Posted by: mollygonz | April 14, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Answer this…how come the only candidate who speaks the truth is being accused of attacks? How does the truth get miscontrued as an attack? Obama makes us think. That, my friends, are what people are afraid of. Challenge yourself. He will succeed and he will do it without slinging mud at his opponent. Hillary is doing that and getting nowhere. She can’t read the writing on the wall but she will. Obama will take this country higher than it’s ever been before. Europe, Canada..they are all rooting for him. Hoping to get back on good terms with the U.S. Think about that.
Posted by: mollygonz | April 14, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Obama has finally taken his boxing gloves off and shows us that perhaps he has some “street smarts.”
It may change his public persona – now he will have more trouble projecting that holier than thou attitude – I am above it all.
It is his condescending, elitist attitude that got him in trouble in the first place. I went to Harvard and I know it all… I am the great Obama!
The rural people are so bitter – they need the opiate of the masses – religion. They are just a bunch of NRA gun nuts. Don’t you feel so sorry for them? They are just like the dirt beneath my feet, those clodhoppers.
Posted by: Lance | April 14, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
Gee whiz Obama is attacking everyone. Where is the uniter? What was the Annie Oakley comment about to? I believe she said her Dad taught her how to shoot a gun. I think he is getting carried away a little bit. Sounding how of control.
Posted by: lois | April 14, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
Hillary flip flopping
From 2005
The former first lady also said some Republicans had a god complex.
Senator Clinton described Republican leaders as messianic in their beliefs, willing to manipulate facts and even “destroy” the Senate to gain political advantage, a reference to the recent fight that nearly stripped the Democrat minority of its filibuster powers to shelve judicial nominees.
“Some honestly believe they are motivated by the truth; they are motivated by a higher calling; they are motivated by, I guess, a direct line to the heavens.”
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
Anyone who is calling Obama an elitist is doing so just because of the news. How sad. Pick up one of his books and read a little about his life and you will find out that he is nothing close to that. What he said about us being bitter is true. Alot of people surprisingly are defending him on this because we shouldn’t be taking what is being dished out of Washington year after year! He is so right on! I could shout it to the world!Someone is finally here who is not afraid to speak the truth and stand up for us.
Posted by: mollygonz | April 14, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
The clinging Clintonistas, clinging to her every lie, clinging to her vote for the war with Iraq, which is a big part of why the economy is in the toilet, clinging to her vote for the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, clinging to her vote for using cluster bombs, clinging to her support of NAFTA, clinging to her husband and top strategists support of the Colombian free trade deal, clinging to her scorched earth campaign strategy, clinging to a campaign train wreck, clinging to a woman who doesn’t pay her bills to small businesses dependent on the payment of their bills to keep their businesses running, clinging to her abuse of woman who Bill had affairs with, clinging to mandated health insurance which will hurt poor people more, clinging to her promise to New York for 200,000 new jobs with a net result of 30,000 job loss in the state. I could be a like a clinger and list multiple more reasons why these are dangerous reasons to cling onto a candidate with multiple personalities with the ethics of a criminal with no virtue or dignity at all.
Keep clinging clingons, that this farce is going to save the world when in reality she will destroy it. Keep clinging to the false hope she really cares about you when the only person she cares about is herself. She has duped you and will throw you under the bus at her first opportunity. She is well known for ditching people who no longer serve her needs and she needs you now but when she loses the nomination you’ll see for yourself how little you do mean to her.
Posted by: Sally | April 14, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
Sally, you are so right on! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Posted by: mollygonz | April 14, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
Hillary Clinton renews call for gun licensing and registration
By Phil Hirschkorn/CNN
May 9, 2000
Web posted at: 6:34 p.m. EDT (2234 GMT)
NEW YORK (CNN) — U.S. Senate candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton renewed her call for tougher gun control legislation on Tuesday before an audience of newspaper publishers.
“We have to do more to stand up to those who refuse to believe the reality that guns do kill and that common-sense gun measures can make a difference,” Mrs. Clinton said during a speech to the Newspaper Association of America’s annual convention in New York.
“I believe we need a comprehensive plan to stop gun violence, and it is one of the reasons I am running for the Senate,” the first lady said.
Mrs. Clinton, who is running for the seat of retiring Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-New York), added that she supports proposals that would require the licensing and registering of all new handguns purchased in the United States.
“The moms who are marching in Washington this Sunday have it right,” she said, referring to the “Million Mom March” against gun violence scheduled for Mother’s Day in the nation’s capital.
March participants are also calling on lawmakers to pass gun safety legislation that has languished in Congress since last summer.
“We license drivers before they get behind the wheel to make sure they can drive safely. We register cars to make sure someone is responsible for every vehicle on the road. But we don’t do the same for deadly weapons,” she said.
Mrs. Clinton plans to attend the march with a delegation from New York.
If elected to the Senate, Mrs. Clinton said she’d work with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) on her bill that would require prospective gun buyers to first obtain a gun license by passing a background check and a safety course exam. The bill would also establish a national registry to record all gun sales.
Mrs. Clinton also announced her support for the creation of a “ballistic database” for all new guns, requiring gun makers or sellers to fire guns before sale and send that “ballistic fingerprint” to law enforcement.
Mrs. Clinton suggested that the idea — proposed earlier this year by New York Gov. George Pataki (R) and included in the government’s landmark legal settlement with gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson — should be implemented nationally.
“What we would have is a national database of these images that law enforcement officers could use to quickly track down the origins of guns found at their crime scenes and the criminals who use them,” Mrs. Clinton said.
The first lady reiterated her support to require trigger locks on handguns, to hold adults responsible for their children’s use of guns, to raise the youth handgun ban from age 18 to 21, to limit gun sales to one per month per adult and to have the Consumer Products Safety Commission regulate guns.
“It doesn’t make much sense that we regulate toy guns but not real guns,” Mrs. Clinton said.
New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Mrs. Clinton’s likely Republican opponent in the Senate race, shares many of her views on gun control.
For example, Giuliani’s campaign staff specified that he also supports handgun licensing and a national registry of handguns. As mayor, Giuliani signed legislation requiring trigger locks whenever guns are sold in the city and outlawing the sale of toy guns that resemble real guns.
Giuliani also supported the federal assault weapons ban signed by President Clinton and supports Clinton’s proposal for background checks at gun shows.
The NAA, which hosted Mrs. Clinton Tuesday, is a trade group representing papers responsible for 90 percent of the daily U.S. circulation.
“I’m a great fan of daily and even weekly papers,” Mrs. Clinton told the audience, when asked for her professional advice.
“There are many issues that are of long term impact on our people and our economy, and it’s very hard to break through all the other information that is out there to get the focus that a democracy needs,” Mrs. Clinton said.
“I don’t know how we do a better job of that,” she continued. “Often times in the public arena, it’s hard to muster the concern of people generally because the information is just not getting through.”
Texas Governor George W. Bush is scheduled to speak at the NAA convention Thursday.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Hillary Clinton on Gun Control
Democratic Jr Senator (NY)
Get assault weapons & guns off the street
Q: How would you address gun violence that continues to be the #1 cause of death among African-American men?
A: I think it’s important to remember that the crime rate was driven down, & gun violence was driven down in the 1990s because of a combination of policies, like 100,000 police on the street and getting assault weapons off the street, and because of a growing economy. 22 million new jobs gave people who were hopeless a better chance for a future. So I want to get back to what works. This administration has tried to kill the 100,000 police. You’ve got mayors whose police force is outgunned by the criminals and the gang-bangers. Assault weapons are back on the street. We’ve got to go and do what works again. In addition to having policies that will get guns off the street, we do have to give young men particularly a better chance of a future that includes educational & economic opportunities & second chances when they get caught up in the criminal justice system.
Source: 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum Jul 12, 2007
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre
Q: Did any role that federal government plays fail those students at Virginia Tech?
A: Yes. You know, I remember very well when I accompanied Bill to Columbine after that massacre and met with the family members of those who had been killed and talked with the students, and feeling that we had to do more to try to keep guns out of the hands of the criminal and of the mentally unstable. And during the Clinton administration, that was a goal–not to, in any way, violate people’s Second Amendment rights, but to try to limit access to people who should not have guns. Unfortunately, we saw the tragedy unfold at Virginia Tech. We now know that the background check system didn’t work, because certainly this shooter, as he’s called, had been involuntarily committed as a threat to himself and others. And, yet, he could walk in and buy a gun.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007
FactCheck: VA Tech shooter not declared a danger to others
Hillary Clinton slipped up in her description of the Virginia Tech killings, overstating what a Virginia court had found about the shooter’s mental state in 2005. Clinton said the shooter “had been involuntarily committed as a threat to himself & others. And, yet, he could walk in and buy a gun.”
That’s only half true. It’s correct that Seung-hui Cho had a court-documented history of mental illness that should have precluded his purchase of a firearm. And he was indeed found to present “an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness” in a ruling dated December 14, 2005. But the Judge did not check a box that would have declared Cho “an imminent danger to others.” Moreover, the judge declined to involuntarily commit Cho and sent him to outpatient counseling. Clinton’s confusion on this might stem from bad reporting by some news outlets that said Cho was found to be a danger to himself and others.
Source: FactCheck.org on 2007 South Carolina Democratic debate Apr 26, 2007
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run
A month after the Columbine shootings, Bill & I went to Littleton Colorado to visit with the families of victims & survivors. The Columbine tragedy was not the first, nor the last, episode involving gun violence at an American high school. But it ignited a call for more federal action to keep guns out of the hands of the violent, troubled and young–a lethal combination. Bill and I announced a proposal to raise the legal age of handgun ownership to 21, and limit purchases of handguns to one per month.
Source: Living History, by Hillary Rodham Clinton, p. 503-4 Nov 1, 2003
Keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them
We need to stand firm on behalf of sensible gun control legislation. We have to enact laws that will keep guns out of the hand of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced persons. Congress should have acted before our children started going back to school. I realize the NRA is a formidable political group; but I believe the American people are ready to come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them.
Source: http://www.hillary2000.org, “Gun Safety” Sep 9, 2000
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs
We have to make sure that our schools are safe. Our schools need more help from parents and from communities, and we also need more social workers and counselors who are trained to see the early warning signs. No school security system or metal detector can keep out the culture of violence that dominates the lives of so many of our children. We have to address issues of culture, and we have to ensure that young people do not have easy access to weapons; not only firearms but bomb making material.
Source: http://www.hillary2000.org, “Safe Schools” Sep 9, 2000
License and register all handgun sales
Hillary Rodham Clinton offered her support for a legislative proposal to license hand guns. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer, would require anyone who wants to purchase a gun to obtain a state-issued photo gun license. “I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun,” Clinton said. “I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.”
Source: CNN.com Jun 2, 2000
Tough gun control keeps guns out of wrong hands
I think it does once again urge us to think hard about what we can do to make sure that we keep guns out of the hands of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced people. I hope we will come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who have no business with them.
Source: Press Release Jul 31, 1999
Gun control protects our children
We will not make progress on a sensible gun control agenda unless the entire American public gets behind it. It is really important for each of you [kids] to make sure you stay away from guns. If you have guns in your home, tell your parents to keep them away from you and your friends and your little brothers and sisters.
Source: Forum at South Side Middle School in Nassau County Jul 15, 1999
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation
We have to do everything possible to keep guns out of the hands of children, and we need to stand firm on behalf of the sensible gun control legislation that passed the Senate and then was watered down in the House. It does not make sense for us at this point in our history to turn our backs on the reality that there are too many guns and too many children have access to those guns-and we have to act to prevent that.
Source: Remarks to NEA in Orlando, Florida Jul 5, 1999
Lock up guns; store ammo separately
If you own a gun… make sure it’s locked up and stored without the ammunition. In fact, make it stored where the ammunition is stored separately. We’ve made some progress in the last several years with the Brady Bill and some of the bans on assault weapons, but we have a lot of work to do.
Source: ABC’s “Good Morning America” Jun 4, 1999
Ban kids’ unsupervised access to guns
Q: What actions can students take to help gun control further? A: Young people, especially teenagers, [should pledge] to not give any child unsupervised access to a firearm; not to go into homes, or let your younger siblings go into homes where you know guns are and are not safely stored and taken care of. You guys are going to a party, make sure there are no guns around. If you own a gun or you know people who do, make sure it’s locked up and stored without the ammunition.
Source: ABC’s “Good Morning America” Jun 4, 1999
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons
The first step is to take weapons off the streets and to put more police on them. The Brady Bill, which my husband signed into law in 1995, imposes a 5-day waiting period for gun purchases, time enough for authorities to check out a buyer’s record and for the buyer to cool down about any conflict he might have intended the gun to resolve. Since it was enacted, more than 40,000 people with criminal records have been prevented from buying guns. The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act banned 19 types of military-style assault weapons whose only purpose is to kill people.
As part of a “zero tolerance” policy for weapons, drugs, and other threats to the safety of teachers and students, the President signed an executive order decreeing that any student who comes to school with a gun will be expelled and punished as a condition of federal aid.
Source: It Takes A Village, by Hillary Clinton, p.126 Sep 25, 1996
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. Voting YES would:
Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
Call for the dismissal of all qualified civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment by the court in which the action was brought
Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition, and sets a minimum prison term of 15 years for violations
Require all licensed importers, manufacturers and dealers who engage in the transfer of handguns to provide secure gun storage or safety devices
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence.
Vote to pass a bill that would block certain civil lawsuits against manufacturers, distributors, dealers and importers of firearms and ammunition, mainly those lawsuits aimed at making them liable for gun violence. In this bill, trade groups would also be protected The bill would call for the dismissal of pending lawsuits against the gun industry. The exception would be lawsuits regarding a defect in a weapon or ammunition. It also would provide a 10-year reauthorization of the assault weapons ban which is set to expire in September 2004. The bill would increase the penalties for gun-related violent or drug trafficking crimes which have not resulted in death, to a minimum of 15 years imprisonment. The bill calls for criminal background checks on all firearm transactions at gun shows where at least 75 guns are sold. Exemptions would be made available for dealers selling guns from their homes as well as members-only gun swaps and meets carried out by nonprofit hunting clubs.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
My grandmother and grandfa5ther who lived in Hallstead, PA along the Susquehanna River had guns. They hunted for rabbit, deer and the like. They prepared it and put it up in the freezer. Grandma Doris still did laundry on an electric wringer washer. The game warden and Uncle Claude hunted rattlesnakes and milk them for the venom. When they weren’t hunting because it was out of season, many nights were spent in the bleachers watching semi-pro softball teaams battling each other. We woke at 5:30 am to start the day. We sat by the kitchen window watching the deer graze on the apple trees in the orchard. If it was a good day we would grab our fishing poles and go fishing. To hear that Hillary hunted when she was a girl in PA goes not surprise me. No Bobamba, you still do not get small town life and that is why your words are so hollow. And still there is no apology. Shanme on you!
Posted by: navyvet48 | April 14, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am
I think Senator Clinton is making a big mistake overplaying this “bitter” comment story. She would’ve been wise to see how the small town voters viewed the comments. As it turns out reporters have been in small towns over the weekend in an attempt to get a story from a family offended by the remarks and much to their dismay many of the families weren’t offended but also agree. To make matters worse two small town newspapers endorsed Obama over the weekend.
Who is running the Clinton campaign? They are making one mistake after another – did they not notice that John McCain backed away from the issue over the weekend?
Posted by: DangerousFocus | April 14, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
How come when Obama attacks it is called “defense”, but when Hillary says something about Obama, it is an attack. Oh, there is no media bias is there, no not at all. ABC for President!
Posted by: Darryl Touchet | April 14, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am
GOOD MORNING LUNCH PAIL FOLKS, THIS IS HOW OBAMA REFERRED TO BLUE COLLAR WORKERS IN HIS BILLIONAIRES FUNDRAISER.
Get off the Bitter Spin, He referred to people who weren’t jumping on his bandwagon, as gun touting, religious fanatics, who are rascist. The republicans have the video, so stay tuned they will show it in the GE. Spin it anyway you want.
Posted by: Carol | April 14, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Wait, so it’s ok to attack Bill in SC and Geraldine for her remarks but when Hillary calls him out on his elitist statements, which everyone believe they are, he calls her a name?
What if someone called Obama a name? Would they cry, “RACIST!!!” ? Of course they would.
Obama doesn’t like to play by the same rules he tried to create.
All the Annie Oakley’s in PA, WV, NC, KY, and IN……GET YOUR GUN AND GO VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Way to go Obama, please continue to fight back at those who are going to hate regardless of what you say. They are going to try and twist everything you say. But those of us who have the good sense to know when someone is lying and when we’re being fed lies (the tone in which it is being reported) see and hear the truth. Continue to tell the truth!
Posted by: browncebj | April 14, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Obama dig his own grave…dont blame Hillary or anybody else for your own divisive mentality…
If Hillary had made those outrageous characterizations….it would be an abomination and will call for her to step down…
Why is it ok for obama to bash the white folks?
Posted by: Rick | April 14, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Obama doens’t really have much wriggle room here. He made the remarks and he made them in San Francisco, behind closed doors about people from Pennsylvania to a bunch of Californian millionaires.
He is also undermining his whole premise of a ‘new kind of politics’ by heaping shame on Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Mark | April 14, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Being some one who people question his faith you would think he chooses his words better since he says “words matter”. Now instead of owning up to his mistake he chooses to tear down his opponents. Does he really expect his opponents supporters to back him in the General Election after he ridicules their canidate? He’s not trying to unify the democrated party so how is he going to unify the country since he feels the people from small towns are bitter, God loving, gun toting bigots? McCain should be happy, the democrats are giving him the White House.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | April 14, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Some people’s fascination with and support of Hilary Clinton, despite all her lies and “mis-spoke” incidents, is quite mystifying, bordering on blind acceptance. This is not about gender or some media conspiracy as some people try to make it out to be, but rather, it is about trust and credibility, and the scarcity of truth in Hilary’s statements.
Posted by: realist | April 14, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
I am registered Republican. I will vote for Obama in the election, but i sure will not vote for Clinton… my vote will go to the Republican party in that case. I do regret not getting my voters registration switch party before the primary.
Posted by: Some women in PA | April 14, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
THIS ONCE AGAIN SHOWS HOW BLATANTLY OUT OF TOUCH AND SELFISH THE CLINTON CLAN ARE. HE ONLY HAS TO LOOK AT THESE COMMENTS AND THE LIKE TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS WIFE’S PROTRACTED AND BITTER RIVALRY HAS DONE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND INSTEAD, SHOULD SIMPLY BOW OUT GRACIOUSLY. DESPITE CALLS FOR ADMITTING DEFEAT AND THAT SHE SHOULD THROW HER SUPPORT BEHIND THE PARTY AND OBAMA AND FOR COUNTRY’S GREATER GOOD, SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE TRYING TO PROVE TO EVERYONE THAT ” CLINTONS ARE NOT BIG ON QUITTING”, AT WHATEVER COST.
Posted by: look | April 14, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Why are people so upset with what Obama said? He is only saying the truth and most everyone else will not.
Posted by: Roger | April 14, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
As a white university professor, I, along with my children and grandchildren, am honored and privileged to be part of this great history in the making and vote for Sen. Obama. Now, will America rise to the occasion and embrace this great change and truly unite, showing the world that ONLY in America this can happen, and that it really is the land of the free? Or, will those whose better judgement is clouded by petty prejudices and misconceptions continue the divisive tradition of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’, propagated by those politicians who firmly believe in their politics of divide and rule and public deception?
Posted by: True America | April 14, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Go back and listen to the Charlie Rose interview of Obama in 2004. He said exactly the same things…better and clearer, but exactly the same things. They were true then and they’re true now.
Its wonderful to hear Obama speak to adults like adults. I’m REALLY tired of people like Bush and Hillary Clinton pissing down my leg and then telling me its raining.
Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Both of them are a couple of bozos.
Posted by: Lee | April 14, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Why is it Obama constantly says “my words were taken out of context”? Maybe you should choose your words more carefully Obama. And it is the same with his wife, she is always taken out of context. Well, when you have this elitist notion that you are better than your constituants, you will never be able to connect. Both of them are aroggant and it shows. It also shows in the posts made by Obamnites who clearly think they are more educated and astute on the issues. Is this the presidency we can expect from Obama, always having to apologize for being misinterpreted? Can we afford a presidency where foriegn policy hangs by thread because of a mistated word taken out of context, we already have that.
Posted by: Tim | April 14, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
I am a professional white woman and up to this point was a Hilary fan. In all fairness, I must say that Sen. Obama has been the only candidate who has had the courage to address some of sensitive issues address facing America. I also find this type of reporting quite unprofessional and speculative. I consider myself a pragmatic person and would definitely never vote McCain. We have had 8 years of Republicans’ disastrous governance. It has been a dark period in American history.
Posted by: american woman | April 14, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
I will be traveling to western PA to join more than 10,000 Annie Oakleys to fight to get obama to finally step down. His lies, inexperience, condescending attitude toward anything WHITE, connection to corrupt people makes me SICK! More than 10,000 women of all colors are joining together to show our solidarity w/Hillary Clinton! SHE is who we have been waiting for.
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
Lets have a look at SNOBAMA’s
history of Lies and misstatements shall we:
Small Town Americans are bitter and cling to Guns or Religion. They are anti-immigrant, anti-free trade. – given at San Francisco fund raiser
“Typical White People” quote
More Blacks are in Prison today than in college
Abortions are better than being “Punished” with a baby
Went with Farrakhan to the Half-million man march
Mis-statements on the number of casualties in IRAQ
Never attended a White Church (even though he and Michelle preach diversity)
His Wife is finally proud of America (1st statement) then she is really proud (2nd statement)
His flat declaration that lobbyists “won’t work in my White House” changed after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions.
His wife wrote an essay on black separatists in Princeton
Told a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: ‘I meant the whole civil rights movement.’
His Hate pastor gave Farrakahn an award and supports Hamas
Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kansas, saying 10,000 people died – he was only off by 9,988. He was trying to tie the deaths to the lack of National Guard heavy equipment because of Iraq – also incorrect.
Obama caught with handwriting on Liberal Survey supporting unfettered Abortion and strict gun control
Obama still hasn’t explained REZCO ties fully – Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 — more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos
Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama’s [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He was not. He was a senior lecturer at the school.
Obama=Hate=Wright=Farrakhan=Wrong for the USA This is truly a soulless individual. Anyone voting for this guy has to have a mental disorder given his support for that Hater Pastor Wright.
Posted by: Dean O, Wash DC | April 14, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
BTW…I love KoolAid :)
BILL CLINTON AGREES WITH OBAMA!!!!!!!
“The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death,” Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.”
Remarks of former U.S. President Bill Clinton — Harvard College Class Day 2007, Harvard Yard, Wednesday, June 6, 2007
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“It’s a frustrating time, because for all the opportunity, there’s a lot of inequality. There’s a lot of insecurity and there’s a lot of instability and unsustainability. Half the world’s people still live on less than two bucks a day. A billion on less than a dollar a day. A billion people go to bed hungry tonight…
…In the United States in the last decade, we have had six years of economic growth, an all-time high in the stock market, a 40-year high in corporate profits. Workers are doing better every year with productivity, but median wages are stagnant. And there’s actually been in all this so-called recovery a 4 percent increase in the percentage of people working full-time falling below the poverty line, and a 4 percent increase in the percentage of people working, who with their families, have lost their health insurance. It’s an unequal time. It’s an uncertain, insecure time because we’re all vulnerable to terror, to weapons of mass destruction, to global pandemics like avian influenza. We all make fun of the modern media and culture all the time, but I thought it was interesting in my little house in Chappaqua, where I stay home alone rooting for the candidate [LAUGHTER], I watch the evening news in the last few months, and it’s interesting. Somehow, clawing its way through the stories of the latest crime endeavor in our neighborhood…”
Posted by: Gotcha! | April 14, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA
WORST CANDIDATE EVER FOR PRESIDENCY
Posted by: vik | April 14, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
Hillary should know by now that each time she attacks Obama unfairly, it backfires on her in the end.
She will never learn. People always see through her dishonesty and deceits.
Posted by: Geldo | April 14, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Seems some politicians have poor reading comprehension skills. The Second Amendment does not pertain to hunting or sport shooting. Read it, those words aren’t there. They expect us to have poor memories too. Both Democratic candidates are anti-gun nuts. Both support amnesty for illegal aliens, open borders and NAFTA. What they say today isn’t how they voted yesterday and Hillary’s connections to Wal-Mart suggest a strong ‘anti-labor’ stance that favors imported goods and workers.
Obama is elitist but not nearly as elitist as Clinton. Either would benefit Mexico and China more than they would the United States. ….. Not that McCain is much better.
McCain did try three times for a plan to help those who overextended and are losing their homes. I must have missed plans from Obama and Hillary. Three tries is three times as good as no tries.
Posted by: jijalagi | April 14, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
Obama is right, when my mortgage went up more than $300 because our property taxes went up, I was very bitter as a matter of fact I was down right anger. I am having a hard time keeping up with my bills. I went straight to the tax accessors office and told them I can not afford the tax increase. I ask them if they are trying to make people loose their homes? The worker said he knew people could not afford it, that is why we have the 3rd highest foreclosure rate in the USA. People here went to the Governers home and picketed, he told them to pay the same taxes they were paying before the increase until they get it worked out. Not, people ended up owning so much on taxes that they were in worst shape. Yes, I am bitter!
Posted by: Emilianna | April 14, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
Funny that Obama is attacking someone’s record, given all his present votes on the tough issues in the Illinois state legislature, he should be the last person criticizing someone else’s record.
Obama you are just like all the politicians you are chastising for promising so much but delivering so little. South side Chicago is still waiting on those promises you talked about when you were running for the state senate. Crime is still very high, schools are still bad, murder rate is still very high, people still live in dilapidated apartments controlled by your slumlord friend Rezko.
Your luck of oversight has exacerbated the problems that they already had. Of course, I forgot, you were getting some sweet heart deals from you buddy Rezko to help finance your ambitions to even worry about the common folks in south side Chicago.
What is your major accomplishment in the Senate? How many of your bi-partisan bills turned into laws? How many of the senators on the republican side did you bring together? How exactly are you going to bring people together given that you have voted more along party lines with your Ultra liberal friends Patrick Leahy, Ted Kennedy, and flip flopper John kerry.
Don’t attack the Clinton administration because unlike you, the administration actually created jobs and left the country with a lot of money to pay our bills. You couldn’t even help the people of south side Chicago.
I feel the democratic party is being hijacked by the left wingers, the same way the neo-cons have hijack the republican party
Posted by: miyaki | April 14, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
obama, shame on you. for a presidential candidate to call small town people bitter and frustrated. it’s you who are very bitter and frustrated for not being able to wrap up the nomination. we need a president who is proud of its country and people, big towns, small towns, rich or poor, in good times and bad times.
Posted by: pam | April 14, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
IDIOCY REIGNS SUPREME, JUDGING BY THE ANTI OBAMA COMMENTS. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST ANTI OBOMA. THEY ARE ANTI ANYTHING THAT LOOKS AND SOUNDS DIFFERENT. AFTER SOME 400 HUNDRED YEARS OF HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY STILL HAVE DIFFICULTY ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT NOW THERE IS A BLACK MAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, THE REST IS BULL. SHAM NOT ON HILARY, SHAM ON US WHO PROJECT TO THE WORLD THE FALSE IMAGE OF FREEDOM AND TOLERANCE, BUT BASH A MAN WHO BRINGS THE MESSAGE OF HOPE AND CHANGE. HILARY HAS MUCH LESS ELECTABILITY AND CREDIBILTY THAN OBAMA UNLESS YOU ARE DEAF AND BLIND TO HER AND HER HUSBAND’S LIES. MCCAIN IS A HWAK WHOSE SINGLE MOST “IMPORTANT” PLATFORM IS THAT HE IS A WAR VETERAN.COMPLAINERS DO NOT DESERVE OBAMA. HE IS TOO GOOD FOR THEM. AT LEAST, HE HAS THE DECENCY TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAY HE MADE THOSE REMARKS, UNLIKE THOSE LYING DECEIVING POLITICIANS LIKE HILARY WHO LIES AND BLAMES IT ON “WEARINESS” AND HER HUSBAND COMES TO HER DEFENCE ONLY WITH MORE LIES. I HOPE THESE DEVIL’S ADVOCATES AND COMPLAINERS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHO THEY ARE SUPPORTING. BY THE WAY, I AM WHITE AND PRFESSIONAL.
Posted by: whereisyoursense ofjustice? | April 14, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
It’s sad that Obama is so far out of touch that he doesn’t even know how offensive his remarks are to anyone who is living in a small town, is religious, owns a gun or believes our borders should be secured. The bitterness he talks about is in his soul and his life, as his wife has pointed out a few times.
I don’t want a president who has no confidence in the people he wants to govern.
Posted by: Mary | April 14, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
Obama does not care for the working person, he is a lawyer. Why should he care, becuse he is all smoke and mirrors and no substance. At least MCain and Clinton’s past is out there, subjected to all sorts of inuendo and crass bullshit biased examination, it is still out there! We are being silently conned by Obama and his sidekicks, his past transgressions are hid well, slowly being released or uncovered by people committed to uncovering this person who is not what he seems. Wake Up!
Vote Hillary 08
Posted by: PJM | April 14, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
I am a small town American who is very bitter about the way our Nation is conducting its business and ignoring and even trampling on our civil rights in order to invade a nation on the basis of one man’s lie. Any candidate who fails to acknowledge this fact is out of touch with reality. I fit Hillary’s demographic: white, female, over 65 and retired. I support Senator Obama because he sees what is there, acknowledges it even when it is not popular, and can maintain a Statesman’s image and goals even when attacked personally. He remains a gentleman. He is worthy of being President.
Posted by: Diane Steff | April 14, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
Obama spends most of his campaigning …apologizing for one thing or another …first it was Rev. Wright …now its elitist remarks …you know if he becomes President he won’t apologize …he will just shove it up our ass….he won’t care wheather we like it or not because he is not sorry for what he says or does….he is just sorry that he has to apologize..if he becomes President you won’t hear him apologize at all…
Posted by: Jesse James | April 14, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Obama is an anti-American racist. Clinton likes Chinese businessmen and Mexican workers more than she likes Americans. Neither support the Constitution in it’s entirety. Both are elitist and out of touch with normal Americans.
McCain is less distasteful but far from perfect.
I may be forced to run. At least I’m not an anti-American, anti-gun, pro-NAFTA, pro-amnesty, racist.
Posted by: jijalagi | April 14, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Funny that he is attacking someone’s record, given all his present votes on the tough issues in the Illinois state legislature, he should be the last person criticizing someone else’s record.
Obama you are just like all the politicians you are chastising for promising so much but delivering so little. South side Chicago is still waiting on those promises you talked about when you were running for the state senate. Crime is still very high, schools are still bad, murder rate is still very high, people still live in dilapidated apartments controlled by your slumlord friend Rezko.
Your luck of oversight has exacerbated the problems that they already had. Of course, I forgot, you were getting some sweet heart deals from you buddy Rezko to help finance your ambitions to even worry about the common folks in south side Chicago.
What is your major accomplishment in the Senate? How many of your bi-partisan bills turned into laws? How many of the senators on the republican side did you bring together? How exactly are you going to bring people together given that you have voted more along party lines with your Ultra liberal friends Patrick Leahy, Ted Kennedy, and flip flopper John kerry.
Don’t attack the Clinton administration because unlike you, the administration actually created jobs and left the country with a lot of money to pay our bills. You couldn’t even help the people of south side Chicago.
I feel the democratic party is being hijacked by the left wingers, the same way the neo-cons have hijack the republican party
Posted by: miyaki | April 14, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Jenny,
That is really great, Why would 10,000 women have to travel to PA to rally against Obama. Looks to me like you gals are afraid Obam will take the nom. Well those of us who support Obama will be steadfast in relaying the message that he is the best canidate to be CIC! We are just as passionate about our canidate.Obama 08*******
Posted by: Emilianna | April 14, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
We should really cut Hill some slack for her comments – obviously she was drunk from whisky shots and beer with the boys. She can’t actually be held responsible for what she said any more than she could be held responsible for those snipers shooting at her and Chelsea.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Long_day_on_the_trail.html#comments
Posted by: JW | April 14, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
All over the world, people know that when there is economic hardship, folks are angry and bitter. Is this not commonsense?
What about the saying “A hungry man is an angry man”.
OK, let’s say people are happy and content because the economy is bad. Is that right then?
Why all this fuss because someone is willing to be candid?
Posted by: Geldo | April 14, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Obama as usual shows his discernment and calls out Clinton and McCain – pompous fools. This elitist remark was just silly. Hillary’s swigging whiskey and claiming to be a hunter is just plain goofy! She is so flipping insulting to the voter’s intelligence it’s getting nauseating.
Posted by: vg | April 14, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am
The media is the one that keeps asking Hillary about Obama’s spoken words… Then Obama go’s after Hillary for what he said…..He says shame on Hillary she knows better…Yes Obama she does know better….And so did you but you thought that the America wasn’t listening ….Im glad this did get out because once again he talks bad about the American people…It’s time for the DNC to step in and tell him to get out now!!
Posted by: Patrica | April 14, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am
If I said something as politically clueless as what Obama did last week, I’d be looking to deflect attention too. I’m anti-gun and anti-religious zealot but how naive do you have to be to think you can say something that poorly considered?
Posted by: Jerry | April 14, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Anyone who lives in a small town in PA would know that people are bitter. They are racist, bitter, and right wing conservative. They are frustrate because their jobs have been lost due to unfair wages paid abroad. How do I know this? I have lived in a small town for my entire life and have come to know all of the negative parts of being in a small town. Did anyone know that PA has the highest number of hate groups of anywhere in the country. Yes that’s right. It seems people from PA are bitter after all.
Posted by: zicratias | April 14, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
WELL SAID ted!!! It’s about time someone exposed Obama for the liar and cheat, because all the media do is kiss up!!! http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama_and_campaign_contributor_Antoin_%22Tony%22_Rezko
Obama is brilliant at rhetoric and steals his ideas from Hillary, but unlike Hillary, he doesn’t have the experience to back it up…just a crazed pastor and a Chicago gangster as his buddy of 17 years! Go tell it on the mountain Obama, because we are not listening to your lies any more!
GO HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Di | April 14, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
As I warned last week – this is beginning to bite Senator Clinton in the butt. The key to Senator Obama’s statement was the message moreso than the generalization. People listening in small towns actually understood the message because they live it everyday. To make matters worse – they now believe Senator Clinton is out of touch for not realizing that people are upset, bitter and angry. Whether or not they cling to guns, religion, etc. is debatable. The fact is…they connected with the accuracy of his commentary and she looks like a Washington pundit when she challenges remarks that accurately reflect the feelings of people in small towns with depressed economies.
Score another blunder for the Clintons.
Posted by: ListenToThePeople | April 14, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
OBAMA QUIT…MOVE OUT THE RACE
Posted by: Cano | April 14, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Obama’s condescending and mocking response to the issue is an even greater indicator of his elitist and condescending attitude toward not only the poor and working class but also women. It is generally a sign of the truth hitting home, when his response to this matter is an attempt to mock his opposition by laughing about his opponent’s response rather than answering the accusations. His attempts to turn the attention away from his flaw by mocking this “woman” who can’t possibly know about guns and invoking “Annie Oakley” as if she was not a real woman, speaks volumes about how he views women generally and this woman specifically. His attempts to belittle her, once again attempts to deflect the attention from him and the seriousness of the real issue, “what he thinks and how he thinks, or not”. Once again, he can avoid answering the question or facing the issue by laughing it off, making a joke, not taking it seriously, mocking anyone who questions the messiah. These comments are reflective of how he views most of the population of this country, from his presumed throne. Most of us are not in Starbucks sipping a $6.00 cappuccino double mocha. We’re drinking coffee and voting for Hillary!
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | April 14, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
I am disappointed by the tone, personal insults, violent attacks and overall immaturity of many of these posts. I came looking to join a civil debate regarding an historic election, but I am disappointed by many of the things I have read. My sophomore history students have more mature and enlightening discussions about politics. If bitter was the wrong term for Senator Obama to have used this past week, it is most certainly appropriate for many (not all) in this online discussion.
Posted by: Kathryn | April 14, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Bertrand
I don’t know if saying that Obama is the George Bush of this election, is a bad thing. George Bush won twice, just incase you have forgotten. Look, Obama is being hit now because he is ahead and looks like the likely nominee. he is being thoroughly vetted. He has been the frontrunner for nearly two months now. But lest we forget, there is no politician in America carrying more baggage than Hillary Clinton. If she wins this nomination, i have no doubt that we will ahve an uglier General election than what we will have with Obama as the nominee.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
It’s a pity that Americans don’t know how there country’s image is dying in the eyes of people outside of there country. You guys have made a lot of innocent people dye for a cause they knew nothing about (THE IRAQ WAR). Kids, mothers, fathers die every day. Can you handle the truth? I don’t think so.
Maybe Mr insane oh!!! Sorry Mr McCain will lead America into another war against IRAN, that’s a good idea don’t you think so?
Now the truth is:
McCain= Years of war against Iran, North Korea, and Russia ……. Still counting
Hillary Clinton= More lies……… Maybe she will bomb Iraq forgetting American soldiers are still there because her husband said its old age the makes her forget.
Obama = Peace, change, dialogue, diplomacy……………. Trust me even as I am a British man in the United Kingdom I don’t need Americans to tell me who is better not just for America but for the world.
Can you still handle the truth?
Posted by: James Smith | April 14, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
They are already there : we’re just joining them! Can’t wait!
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Date: April 12, 2008
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Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Shame on Obama
You can’t be serious. I belieev the man already apologized, but Hillary is the one that doesn’t want to let it go. When Bosnia hit, Obama didn’t even touch it. But when Obama makes a mistake, Hillary acts as if the man just assualted some babies. I believe even the most ardent Hillary supporters will be honest enough to admit that she is the more negative out of the two candidates. She is there passing out fliers, distorting the man’s message, despite the fact that he has clarified his comments.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
If Obama were white, he be crushing Hillary Right now. In fact she’d probably be out of the race. It is so stupid to assume that he’s in it because he’s black. That is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard. He’s in it because he’s a good candidate, and he speaks the truth. If you say he’s in it because the blacks are voting for him. That is stupid also. You obviously don’t know the demography of your own country. Blacks only make up 12% of this country, 10% of blacks are republicans and about 50% of them don’t even vote. So you need to figure out another reason that Obama is doing well. Black is not a good enough answer.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
no shame on obama for being a closet marxist,oh you say i am telling lies.no your candidate has said as much himself if you bother to listen.first inhis book he talks about his uncle frank ,well thats frank davis a memeber of the communist party of the usa,he tells us in his book that he sought out the marxist professors in collage,he joins a black liberation church and he calls as a friend william ayers who planted bombs and called for the violent overthrow of the us government.with ties like this please pray tell me why i should trust this man.
Posted by: don tufts | April 14, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Jenny
Just curios. Are you supporting Hillary simply because she is a woman?
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
I know. When Hillary lied about Bosnia… and I mean LIED. Obama didn’t say a word, nothing. Obama, here, has acknowledged a poor choice of words and clarified his intent and Clinton just attacks and attacks.
Forget about Obama even… she’s now attacking both Kerry and Gore. She attacks everyone, everything. Every week it is something different.
Shame on you Hillary. Run a real campaign. If you want to attack all day get a talk radio show.
Posted by: PA Blue collar | April 14, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Kevin, just curious – Are you supporting Obama because he’s black and looks like an NBA player?
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Obama is incredibly condesending. He and his campaign have conveniently decided to focus on just one part of what he said. Yes, people are upset about their economic situation, not only working class people, but generally everybody who is affected by higher gas prices and the rising cost of food. Obama’s elitism was in his statement that working class people in Pennsylvania, because of their bitterness, cling to their religion, their guns, ….Shame on Obama first for saying these things, and more importantly now trying to blame Sen. Clinton for the backlash. This again points to how inexperienced he is, and how he lacks judgement.
Posted by: svsolis | April 14, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Shame on Obama. He is a man of deep religion??? … no but rather a man of Wright’s “MIS-interpreted” deep-racial religion. His comments suggested that he was above the folks in PA, and that they were flawed somehow because they “cling” to their church and guns, and they are anti-immigration. I have news for Obama…. they are millions of other folks outside of PA who are religious and believe in the 2nd amendment, and are anti-immigration, so he didn’t just offend PA people. He has no right to slam Hillary- he continues to belittle the “typical white man”, gay/lesbians, and makes false promises… promises he will not be able to keep like bringing the troops home in a mass Exodus from Iraq (this will not happen)if he is President. Obamahas no experience, and continues to tell people what they want to hear. If WE don’t stand for something, we FALL for anything, and I refuse to FALL for Obama.
Posted by: Bren | April 14, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Obama talks about Iowa farmers behind their backs to people of New Hampshire back in November 2007 as reported by ABCnews.com 11/27/07:
“One of the great pleasures of running for president has been, you know, to go to some tiny town in Iowa and you’ve got some guy in overalls and a seed hat say, ‘what do you think about the situation in Burma?’ You know, and you think he is going to ask you about corn — and he asks you about Burma,” said Obama, provoking laughter from the New Hampshire audience. “But that happens all the time.”
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Oh yeah then why are you the only one that knows this.
OH How stupid of me, the media loves the Black Man. Yeah Right!!
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Shame on you Obama
Obama you are just like all the politicians you are chastising for promising so much but delivering so little. South side Chicago is still waiting on those promises you talked about when you were running for the state senate. Crime is still very high, schools are still bad, murder rate is still very high, people still live in dilapidated apartments controlled by your slumlord friend Rezko.
Your luck of oversight has exacerbated the problems that they already had. Of course, I forgot, you were getting some sweet heart deals from you buddy Rezko to help finance your ambitions to even worry about the common folks in south side Chicago.
Posted by: miyaki | April 14, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
ted – now make a list of all of Hill and Bill’s lies – go on now and be fair!
It will take you all week long.
Hillary needs to quit riding around on her broom pretending she is Paulette, Revere, or Rocky, or small town girl, or drinking boiler makers at bars, or trying to be ‘a good ole boy’ or a rifle expert. PULLLEEZ have some class HIllary.
Posted by: jmat | April 14, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
92, 94 I was ecstatic to see the Clinton win the WH. And now:
How “IN TOUCH” Clintons are?
1. As true/false as the notion that people siting on 100′s of million or more are more in touch than people poorer than them.
2. As false as her calim that she has been agianst Nafta.
3. As Imaginary as those never happened sniper fires.
4. As shaky as her claim that she was against the Iraq War.
And, it’s really is a shame that we have to listen to a cople who collected 7.5 pinnocchios (Hillary 4, and Bill 3.5 …washington post) in lest few weeks…..and thats not counting the shameless pathetic lies of Bill and Hillary on many other occasion.
Posted by: moeen | April 14, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Kevin: He has not apologized. He apologized to the portion of the statement that he is trying to use in his favor. Why did he chose to state those comments behind closed doors in CA when he thought he was not been recorded and as a response to one of the millionaire donors that was questioning him why he has having problems converting PA voters? He decided to trash PA voters as the reason of his failure. So yes, shame of him.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Jenny
No. I support Obama because he reflects a lot of my views. I mean, did you watch the Faith Forum yesterday? The man reflecetd my sentiments on a lot of those issues. I am white, so his race means nothing to me. Obama has his flaws, but a think he is more honest than Clinton and articulates the issues better than she does. I think she is too much of a policy wonk, and wouldn’t be where she is right now if she hadn’t been married to Bill. Hillary is good enough to be President. But i have been eager for a while to see a President that is not extreme on any issue. A President that uses commonsense to solve problems. Believe it or not, at the beginning to this election, i supported Hillary. I even donated $500 to her campaign initially. But the way she handled this “bitter” comment has just validated my views on her. Notice how Obama didn’t touch the Bosnia flap. But see how she jumped on this issue like a pit-bull, painting the man as an elitist even after he apologized for his choice of words. Hillary treats voters like they are children, incapable of thinking for themselves and seeing seeing BS for what it really is…BS. She is playing politics as usual, and though Obama is not perfect by any means, he seems to be the more genuine human being out of the two. I don’t trust politicians that will do and say anything to win.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
What OBAMA SAID IT’S TRUE! Allot of the things he says are true therefore we denounce those statements for the simple fact that truth hurts. People across the nation due to the lack of jobs blame immigrants, trade agreements and are bitter. I don’t agree with him saying that they go to guns though but I don’t agree with the sniper story but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t vote for her in the general election.
Posted by: Yan Alexander | April 14, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Seriously, do John McCain not think American’s are bitter? Did he really say that? If he did he’s way way out of touch. Most of America is downright PO’d, not just bitter.
Posted by: Nate | April 14, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
I find it somewhat ironic that Barack would criticize rural America for their anti-trade sentiment when he claims to be NAFTA’s strongest opponent.
I find it troubling that Barack would criticize rural America for clinging to their religion during troubled times while he clings to his pastor “What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama said. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.”
I find it sad that Barack would criticize rural America for clinging to their legal guns used for hunting and family protection while he is assuring them that he is pro-gun and will keep the weapons in their hands.
I find it unbelievale that Barack would claim that rural America is “anti-immigrant” when he knows full well that they’re actually anti-Illegal immigrant and want secure borders just like Barack does.
I find it a total lie that Obama is saying that Bush and Clinton had the same economic policies and that America fared poorly under Clinton.
Actually the whole incident leaves me “bitter”.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Love how Obama is blaming someone else, when he’s the one who made the “boneheaded” remark. He was condescending and patronizing — and now he’s firing back. Hmmm — big politics of change, isn’t it. Goes after big money, goes after lawyers, gets money bundlers to get him big bucks, and while he’s wooing the big money in a billionaire’s house, he trashes rural America and equates residents with “poor white trash.”
Shame on him.
Posted by: Julie | April 14, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Seems odd how many people post comments made by others and simply copy and paste them into their comments. I have seen that long list of negatives posted on almost every blog for weeks.
Wake up people, we are getting hit by a organized system of professional bloggers who are seeking to change the election. Seems unfair to have the blog world affected by more organized campaigning here.
Posted by: rick | April 14, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
I personally don’t think he said anything wrong, even the wording. He spoke the truth, the truth needed to be spoken. If he loses, because he spoke the truth, I’m sure he can live with that. I sure could. What’s not true is Hillary’s claim that she doesn’t see bitter people. I know when I see the price of gas rising everyday, I curse and say when will this end. When I see the price of milk and eggs on the rise I curse and say when will this end. I’m in the ARMY so, as of right now, so my job is not on the line like so many people who’s jobs are being taken and who can’t provide for their families as they once could. If you don’t think that makes people “bitter” then you are an idiot. The first thing people do when they face hard times, is get on their knees and pray, and ask GOD to help them get through. So for you people to say that he is not speaking the truth, you are a bunch of liars yourself.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Obama was explaining to the BILLIONAIRE donors at the San Francisco fundraiser why all the money they are giving Obama’s campaign, and all the money Obama is spending in PA – outspending Hillary 5 to 1 – that Obama still can’t win PA! Obama is not even close! Obama gave his reasons: that small town Americans would rather “cling” to the constitution and their faith than vote for me, because I am so great and wonderful, of course they would vote for me if they were not so small minded, white, church going small town thinkers, not ELITE BRILLIANT THINKERS LIKE US GREAT DEMOCRATS!! So this is what the DNC has become? This is what all of you OBAMANATIONS think of blue collar democrats? Obama and Rev. Wright will REWRIGHT the constitution to fix all of us and our small town thinking!!!
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
I don’t know, Kevin, you might want to do a little more research on your guy because he has an ugly and deceitful past. He lost OH because the voters there were lied to by him. The Canadian govermnment admitted to the meeting and what was said yet Obama had to tell 5 different stories beginning with “my campaign did not contact Canada.” Is that not a lie? What about the lie he told on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX about not hearing Rev Wright’s controversial sermons and then a week later in his “famous” speech, he admitted he did. Is that not a lie? His relationship to Wright alone causes concern about his philosophy toward a large demographic of Americans.
Supporting someone with questionable ties to a corrupt person on trial, Rezcko, and to a known terrorist, Ayers is just cause to step down from the campaign. But he has money and lots of it. He’s got connections and lots of them. Are you wondering why or where it’s from? It’s very sad that people continue to support him out of stubborness. His supporters in the DNC, media, and on the street have lost all credibility. It makes absolutely no sense to support this immoral, unethical, cheating, dirty politician.
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Thank you Obama for finally hitting back when she starts this sort of melodrama. You would think Hillary was raised by single parent with the help of grand parents rather than having grown up wealthy. Who’s the elitist again? I think its the woman who’s offended that the nomination process was not simply a coronation, crowning her as the next president. If you think she doesn’t see this as her entitlement you have been MIA politically for the past few years.
Posted by: Keith Vukasinovich | April 14, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
WHAT A PAIR! THIS IS THE BEST DEMS CAN DO?
Posted by: CHAOS | April 14, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
I really can’t understand why anyone would continue to “cling” to Clinton. Maybe we can wean you folk off this crutch.
as people cansee in the news today and the polls…this is barely touching Obama…and he is slowly turning it around to what it is… look at the Chjarlie rose interview from 2004…you see that this message has been consistent no matter who Obama was speaking to…
The fact that the Clinton supporters are trying to turn OBAMA who just finished paying off his school loans …and who didn’t go work for washington and wal-mart …instead went to work for those communities who lost jobs and factories…
The Clinton calling someone elitists… uh… really hard to see someone living in the bubble of money and power for so many years telling someone else they are an elitist…what does that mean exactly…someone smart?… I don’t think so…
Someone who understands how small towns and population work and what they “cling” to in times of need. Yes some people cling to their faith and traditions and fear… when they lose their jobs and they don’t know how to make their children’s future’s better and the government has turned their back on them.
The “elitists” are those who don’t acknowledge that or don’t understand what it’s like to be in that situation.
Posted by: dl | April 14, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
REGARDLESS OF HIS HONESTY AND SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY IN DENIAL, THE FACT REMAINS, HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO LEAD A COUNTRY IF AFTER EVERY STATEMENT HE HAS TO APOLOGIZE AND TELL US HE IS NOT PERFECT, THAT HE MIS-SPOKE, THAT HE SHOULD HAVE USED DIFERANT WORDS, THAT OTHERS ARE SHAMEFUL,( AND NOT HIM??), HE MAY BE A GOOD PROMOTER, BUT HE ISN’T A LEADER. THAT IS WHAT A PRESIDENT IS. THE DEMS PROJECT THEIR OWN CHARACTER ONTO THE OTHER EVERY TIME THEY OPEN THEIR MOUTH. THE ONLY TRUTH IS THEY ARE NOT CREDIBLE.
Posted by: JACK | April 14, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
For the entire list of ATTACKS by the Obama campaign again Senator Hillary Clinton, see this link:
http://www.attacktimeline.com/
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Yeah…shame on Hillary for pointing out yet another flub of Obama’s. Is this how he’s going to run his presidency if he’s elected (God forbid)by not taking responsibility for his own screw-ups? This reminds me of the elementary kids I work with when they get into trouble. Instead of accepting responsibility for their own actions and/or words, they just try to refocus on someone else. Unfortunately for Obama, I’m guess I’m one of those blue-collar “bitter” people from a small southern town (If you call San Antonio a small town) that has yet another reason to cast my vote for Hillary. Eventually Obama will have to put on his big-boy boxers and accept the consequences for the words that come out of his obviously inexperienced mouth.
Posted by: Cheryl | April 14, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
I agree with Hillary listen…
I too, as a poor white person… she through Hillary’s vain attempts. She’s not fooling me this time.
I don’t have 109 million even though I am white like you.
Obama 08!
Posted by: i agree and | April 14, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Definitely Common Sense
Obama said something similar in 2004. What he was trying to explain was why single-value voters vote the way they do. These single value voters are normally the most angry, the most bitter, the poorest, the most disillusioned, the most zealot of voters in our country. They vote on single issues, neglecting the broader range of issues affecting this great nation.If anything, Obama was actually defending these single-value voters by explainignt he economic issues that affects them and makes them cling to these single value issues. I think his choice of words was unfortunate (and God forbid somebody in a Presidential election decides to be honest), but he already apologized for that. Are you saying that he hasn’t?
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
hopesprings52, Wean Obama supporters off and onto what? The tiresome, boorish, less than truthful Clintons? Or the the wrong-headed ideas of Republicanism. I am not an Obama supporter because I follow him blindly and must be “weaned”. I support Obama for the simple fact he is not a Clinton and is not a Republican. I think that is the case with many of his supporters. By the way, I am a “typical white person”.
Posted by: indy_voter | April 14, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
The comments ( tone and language) were much akin to the kind of comments that Bill Maher makes on his show. Bill Maher, in his frustration with the results of the previous election cycles, likes to make jokes about stupid Americans. ( I don’t see much difference except that I usually laugh when Bill Maher is makin them.) Obamas explanaitons greatly elevate the original meaning of his tone and words. I don’t buy it but then maybe I’m just one of those stupid Americans.
Posted by: Leslie | April 14, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
I am SO glad this has finally come to the surface.
Just because we are white Hillary doesn’t mean we have the comforts you do. That is what Obama is saying. He’s not attacking… he’s trying to change things. You should take his class.
from a poor white woman in PA for Obama.
Posted by: truthtopower | April 14, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
My husband owns guns because he like to hunt…..Is he bitter about owning a gun ..No …My family loves God Does this make us bitter…No….Are we bitter because the way Obama has handled this…Yes….I remember Michelle Obama…Saying this…..Michelle, my wife, she was traveling up, I think, in eastern Iowa, she was driving through this nice, beautiful area, going through all this farmland and hills and rivers and she said ‘Boy, it’s really pretty up here,’ but she said, ‘But you know, I can see why if I was living out here, I’d want a gun. Because, you know, 911 is going to take some time before somebody responds. You know what I mean? You know, it’s like five miles between every house.’ ….So this right here shows just how much he is out of touch with America….And what did he mean with the 911 remark in this ?….He sounds just like his pastor wright…Hillary 08
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Let’s see Obama is editor of the Harvard Law Review, gets offers to go with big money firms, but instead becomes a low paid social activist on the south side of Chicago. Yes I can see that he is an elitest. Now real down to earth people are raised in affluent Chicago suburbs, graduate Yale, become law firm partners, live the first lady life for decades, and then get an open seat in the Senate arranged for them. Obama’s the elitest! yeah right.
Posted by: Sanity Man | April 14, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
As a rural American of professional background, living just across the state line from NW Pa., I think most of us “get” Obama’s insight into rural American. He is trying to elevate our politics to a level of honesty, truth, and sincerity and thoughtful discussion……to move us beyond the place of polarization in which we have been stuck for far too long, wasting our energy and rhetoric on everything but the important issues needed to move America toward solutions. The problem with Hillary is that she contributes to this polarization by making issues out of nothing in an effort to distract us from what is important… in an effort to manipulate voters..appealing to what is worst about us not what is best..which is itself, an elitist attitude that assumes we are stupid. Well, we aren’t that stupid and we are tired of the condescension she represents. This lastest attack on Obama’s sincere insight (which most informed people understand is correct) is but one more example of her unethical and immoral tactics to win by any means necessary, even at the expense of truth. For Clinton, the ends justifies the means….and, as I recall this approach is basic to communist philosophy……for Obama the means determines the ends. Those of us who want new outcomes and progress toward the solutions to our countries many challenges….we cannot afford a president for whom winning trumps truth.
Posted by: DrT | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Whatever. Anyone support the Clintons is crazy.
I, too, am a typical white person in PA.
I’d rather vote for someone who said things I disagreed with sometimes then a LAIR.
I hate lairs.
I guess when you have 109 million you can afford to lie though.
ANYBODY BUT HILLARY.
Posted by: whatever | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Definition of “elitist.” “One who despises people or things regarded as inferior, especially because of social or intellectual pretension: snob. Informal snoot. See attitude/good attitude/bad attitude/neutral attitude, self-love/modesty.” http://www.answers.com/topic/elitist
Synonim of elitist: BARACK OBAMA
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
I just don’t get it. What does everyone see in Obama?I can not see it. All he says is change and hope. Well folks the change might not be for the better. He just might be trying to ruin this country. All he has done is attack everything the other opponents have said and he keeps coming out smelling like a rose. Do your reseach and check out what Obama is all about. I have and I can tell you it scares me. Plus what is he going to do to help the little guys? Nothing. What is his plan? I do not know. He does not talk about anything. He has no plans. He just does around seeing who said what about him and then cries about it. He is not leadership materal at all. Well I think people should be very careful how they vote. If we chose someone that does not love America the damage will be so great we may all lose. He could do some great damage to the country quickly and we might not be able to fix it fast enough to save our great nation. I think everyone has to really do your research and really think about who we chose. I will not vote for Obama. So I guess that means if he is the democratic choice I go with McCain.
Posted by: Barb | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Indy voter, hmm, what part of the peace prosperity, and budget surplus of the Clinton 1990′s didn’t you like? Hillary voted against expanding Nafta and Obama voted for Nafta expansion. Too bad Obama wasn’t even around to vote since he is the newcomer. But on the issues, check the voting records and you will see who is telling the truth. Hint: Obama misleads, misspeaks, and betrays.
Posted by: Johne | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Obamanations: Obama was not raised by a single white mother. It is wonderful that you want to rewrite his narrative, but the truth is he had his original father until the age of 2, and then his mom remarried a MARXIST and they moved to Indonesia from Hawaii. At some point, he went to live with his grandparents in Kansas because his mother was into radical lifestyles. Is this where Obama’s smoking, drinking and drug use comes from? Who knows. Obama’s biological father was a raging alcoholic who drove into a tree coming home from a bar.
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Hillary will jump on anything right now to make him look bad. She is desperate because people are turning from her. She has shown herself to be a liar, and a person who is VERY bitter because she thought she was entitled to get the nomination. I am VERY surprised at how badly her campaign has been run because she is VERY intelligent. I think Obama was VERY open in the Compassion Forum, and she still seemed “closed”. She has a hard time with emotions.
Posted by: cindyct | April 14, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
From William Kristol of the NYT today:
What does this mean for Obama’s presidential prospects? He’s disdainful of small-town America — one might say, of bourgeois America. He’s usually good at disguising this. But in San Francisco the mask slipped. And it’s not so easy to get elected by a citizenry you patronize.
And what are the grounds for his supercilious disdain? If he were a war hero, if he had a career of remarkable civic achievement or public service — then he could perhaps be excused an unattractive but in a sense understandable hauteur. But what has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Getting back to the topic, I know a lot of bitter people. They are bitter about being duped on Iraq, they are bitter because they don’t see any way out of there, they are bitter because the good paying jobs are going overseas, they are bitter because Congress won’t impeach Bush and Cheney, they are bitter because the cost of food and fuel has gone up so much so quickly, they are bitter because the U.S. is no longer respected outside our borders, they are tired of the hyprocracy of our government officials, they are bitter and afraid of our national debt, which amounts to $30k owed by every man, woman, and child in this country (the largest amount of it to China followed by the Social Security Administration), and the list goes on. Actually, bitter is a gentler word than the one I would use to decribe the majority of people I know. A better word is angry. The only reason some Americans aren’t angry is because they are either delusional or uninformed. We need massive change in DC and we need it soon. The country is about to implode and government leaders, both Republicans and Democrats are playing their fiddles. I am voting for the person with the most logical and radical ideas on how to fix this mess. No more business as usual!
Posted by: Ken | April 14, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
I’m confused. which Obama stance are we to rally behind. Now he’s anti Nafta, but before, he was letting the Canadians know he really wasn’t anti Nafta. Which is it or does it matter that he flip flops on his views.
Posted by: Dracula | April 14, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Jenny are you seriouus? The Canadian gov blasted their diplomat for the leaked comments and stated that if Obama were to become president, he would be within his rights to want to reopen NAFTA dialgoue and negotiations. This is the sort of Clinton arrogance I love most. He lost Ohio because we fell for that Clinton lie while ignoring the fact that she never uttered a single documented dislike with NAFTA duiring the previous Clinton admin. This gets even funnier when it comes to light that her campaign is factually guilty of what she accused Obama of. The Columbia gov didn’t come to Hill’s rescue to defend the comments as harmless like the Canadian Parliament did the very next day with Obama. The Columbians canned Penn because they new they were being played. We’ll have to see if PA is as gullible as OH was.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
uh Jack
“REGARDLESS OF HIS HONESTY AND SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY IN DENIAL, THE FACT REMAINS, HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO LEAD A COUNTRY IF AFTER EVERY STATEMENT HE HAS TO APOLOGIZE AND TELL US HE IS NOT PERFECT”
Thank God for the fact that he does this…
…clinton who lies about Bosnia or the Irish debacle… and has to forced into a confession that she over and over denied that she didn’t tell it how it was… no doubtedly “because she is a fighter” ugh. We want someone who says I made a mistake when they make a mistake (“ahem” the WAR vote…) that is not strength.
or McCain who consistently confuses the Shia and Sunni… and never acknowledges confusing the two. Or stands so strongly for one thing but now that he is trying to live up to his father and grandfathers dream of being President (hello GW, and Mitt) …
If you think he is honest…and I think he is also… he used words that can be twisted, yes… but that is not the threshold or consideration I use in choosing a President. Honesty is though… and level of nastiness is… and who will regain respect from the world…that we are not a democracy by name and not an overhyped group of sheep who follow our fears and not our more noble choices.
Posted by: dl | April 14, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Kevin…Unfortunately a lot of Hillarys support is from women who want a women in office. They fail to understand she is the WRONG women…
Posted by: cindyct | April 14, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Patricia
You totally miss the point. First, go back to the question Obama was asked. That’s the one part being underreporetd regarding this issue. It’s not about owning guns and being religious (Obama is a a devout Christian after all). It’s about voting on these single issues. Does your husband go to the polls with one thing and one thing only in mind: Voting for the candiadte that is the best supporter of gun rights? If he does, then he has issues. Hillary understands this. That’s why suddenly she is painting herself as a supporetr of these single-value voters. Obama was talking about single-value voters only.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
to insinuate that obama didn’t touch the bosnia flap is not true. All his surrogates were all over it and I do remember him saying “this is another example of her disingenousnesss”. But to imply that people vote for issues out of desparation is arrogant. Many of my religous friends voted for George Bush because he said he would create a constituitional amendment against gay marriage and the only they are desparate about is banning gay marriage (and he didn’t). I told them.
But Hillary was amazing last night and when we look at her you people should just look at her. I challenge the previous writer to go back and chronicle her career before she married Bill and you will find a progressive, smart, dedicated woman who is smarter than bill will ever be. My wife and I watched the forum and tried to listen to Obama again but when he answers questions (which he actually doesn’t) but by the time he gets to addressing the questions after a litany of irrelavent stories we both forgot what the question was (I mean how many names do you have to drop on a question of global warming) just answer the question. Hillary was forthright,clear and open. I learned something about her religion and beliefs. I learned what she is doing personally to be close to God and I learned what she thinks God’s will is in her life. The only thing I learned about Obama is that Rev. Wright is not his spiritual advisor just his pastor.
Posted by: ronart | April 14, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I don’t know about you, but I’m bitter and I have no problem someone calling me as such. If you are not bitter about a bad economy, a horrible housing market, an even worse war and no health care then there is something wrong with you. I can’t believe on HRC actually trying to capitilize on a rival politician being honest. What a scumbag. Just looking at her makes me quesy.
Posted by: Tim | April 14, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Oh Kevin – You are not doing your homework. I thought maybe it was stubborness but now I think you are indeed brainwashed. The well-connected Dems like Dean, Pelosi, Kerry (who hasn’t passed any legislation since 1999), Kennedy all want Obama. Dems who lost their presidential bids like Richardson, Dodd, and Kerry want Obama. Why you ask? I certainly wouldn’t want losers on my side but Obama is giving them money. My former congressman, Jason Altmire, in PA received $10K from obama so that he would support him. Obama gave more money to superdelegates than Hillary. Obama IS the dishonest politician – look at the people who surround him. When this is all over, you will be laughed at – in fact, you are being laughed at now for supporting such a politician who did nothing in his own community for his own people.
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Interesting how yesterday’s Obama supporters that were signing the posts as “PA Jewish pro Obama” turned out today as “small town resident PA residents pro Obama.” Wow, his PA supporters change and post according to what is in the news. Obama-paid bloggers, you are not tainting the opinion, we can see through you.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Obama is toast. He is losing ground every day. If Hillary is the nominee, she will have a chance at winning, but Obama has no chance. McCain will probably win. You Obama folks better prepare for defeat. It will hurt.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | April 14, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Agreed Ken, back to topic. I live in Dayton, Oh and you better believe bitterness is an acurrate description here. We keep watch manufacturing pack up and move oversees? Irnoically the Latin populatino here is booming and you best believe that folks here are not greeting them with open arms. The hateful things I hear folks saying is just staggering.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Barb, sadly I must agree with you. I was undecided but did more research and found big credibility gaps with Obama. He is slowly destroying the Democratic party with his constant finger-pointing, and twisting comments into race remarks. When will he take responsibility for his own words and actions? Isn’t that part of leadership? What does he have against women anyway – i.e., calling Chelsea a pimp for her mom, and having people ask her questions on the campaign stops about Bill’s past escapades? Why does he keep his grandmom who raised him completely out of the picture?
Posted by: Dilly500 | April 14, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
Hillary Rodham Clinton wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. She had better hope they don’t study her recent campaign too closely for the answer. Clinton has overseen two major staff shake-ups in two months. She has left a trail of unpaid bills and unhappy vendors and had to loan her own campaign $5 million to keep it afloat in January. Her campaign badly underestimated her main adversary, Barack Obama, miscalculated the importance of organizing caucus states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Clinton [...] campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, financial uncertainty and personnel drama. Its strengths — a supremely disciplined candidate and remarkable fundraising — have been undermined by other aspects of the enterprise, such as a headstrong, factionalized staff and a spendthrift approach. The conventional wisdom once held that it was Bill Clinton who was chronically improvisational and unable to run a tight ship. That flaw, it seems, runs in the family.It would be easy to dismiss all of this as fairly conventional political stumbling — if she hadn’t made her supreme readiness and managerial competence the central issue of her presidential campaign. .. “Any time you are involved in a long campaign, there are going to be major substantive and procedural gaffes,” says former Democratic Rep. David Bonior, an uncommitted superdelegate who served as the campaign manager to John Edwards. “The question is how a campaign handles those gaffes and how a candidate handles them. And I think it’s fair to say that Sen. Obama has handled [his] problems better than Sen. Clinton.” Clinton’s defenders argue that the relatively smooth-running Obama operation obscures the reality that the first-term Illinois senator is an untested, naive politician who showed little spine or genius during his unremarkable four years in the U.S. Senate. Clinton loyalists think the Obama story has a predictable conclusion: He gets torn apart by a ruthless GOP and crushed in the general election. But, it is also true that a fair measurement of the candidates’ leadership skills is their management of their campaign. Easily the largest enterprise they have run in their lives — in February alone, Obama had 1,280 paid employees, at a cost of $2.61 million; Clinton had 935 employees and a monthly payroll of $1.63 million — the campaign reveals flaws and strengths that will only be magnified in the Oval Office.
Posted by: analysis | April 14, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Kevin you are wrong again. The exit polls in all the primaries clearly show that people who are concerned about the economy ARE voting for CLINTON. People who are not concerned about their finances/the economy are voting for OBAMA. Those people are the wealthy elitists or young kids who are still being supported by their parents.
CLEARLY, the middle, average, “bitter” American believe Hillary is the best choice to fix our economy. Obama knows this and chose to put down these voters and explain why he’s not getting their support by STEREOTYPING them in front of wealthy people.
He’s a jerk, plain and simple.
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
To CindyCT: You say Hillary is the “wrong woman”, I say Obama is the “Wrong Black Man”…Harold Ford Jr. for president!!!
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Jenny
How will Hillary Clinton win the Presidency without the black vote? If Hillary manages to win this nomination, watch blacks, who make up nearly 30% of the Democratic party, stay home or flat-out vote for McCain.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Hillary have a chance? Have you forgotten the Republican “Anyone but Hillary” slogan back before Obama announced he was running. McCain probably prays every night for Hillary to win the nomination as nothing would rally the conservative around him as strongly as she can.
There are paid bloggers? How can I join that club?
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
It’s sad that Hillary attacks him on his comment. I seem to remember someone who said “I suppose I could have stayed home to bake cookies and have teas…” and when she got jumped on, she called foul.
Posted by: JT | April 14, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Kevin – Sexist much? Were my arguments too much for you that all you can come up with are emotional, sexist attacks? Sorry you can’t handle it. Maybe you can try another blog with your weak “arguments.”
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Wanda, please do your research and reading before posting. Don’t keep spreading mis-truths. In october 2007. Obama voted to expand Nafta! Yes, you heard that correctly. And on the same Nafta bill, Hillary voted against expanding Nafta. She is someone who walks her talk.
Posted by: Sally | April 14, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
PA Jewish community will NOT vote for Obama after watching this clip!
Obama is supporting Hamas and is an anti semite! Pa has a lot of Jewish populated areas and we are all for Hillary!!!
Even some jews who had supported Obama few weeks ago pulled the plug and switched for Hillary, Hillary will win by a landslide in PA
Here is a proof , Hamas campaigns for Obama!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/03/pali-gazans-cam.html
Posted by: PA JEWS | April 14, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
I AM PROFESSIONAL WHITE FEMAIL. INITIALLY A HILARY FAN, I HAVE NOW REALZED THAT HILARY DEMONIZES HER RIVAL JUST TO GET VOTES. THIS IS A BROKEN MODEL OF CAMPAIGN, SOMETHING EXERCISED BY BUSH IN HIS RACE FOR PRESIDENCY. WHEREAS, OBAMA TALKS ABOUT RACE, HE TALKS ABOUT HOPE. HE TALKS ABOUT CHANGE THAT AMERICA SO BADLY NEEDS.
Posted by: happiness | April 14, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
More forums like this one would give voters a pretty good idea on who they are voting for. I think we should hear from religious scholars as well as professors in economics and social studies and just plain folks of different ages and socio-economic background. Let the candidates answer our questions directly No media Filtrage.
this means Not much money for the media. well than the forum should be at the cost of a reasonable speech time. At least your station will be recognized as an honest people involed network.
and you guys can rotate too. the object isto let people make their decision based on fact not fiction.
Go!!! ABC
Posted by: ruthmatters | April 14, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
cindyct: If we are going to use your logic, then “unfortunately a vast majority of Obama supporters are African-Americans that are voting for him because he is African-American.” And by the way, go and check with Michell who was having problems finding white men to sit in front of one of her events. No, not all people vote based on race or gender. The majority are intelligent enough to vote for the best-qualified one.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Kevin – Look at the polls in NC, for example – they are seeing Obama now for who he truly is. Look at what percentage of African Americans make up the US population. Compare that with Hispanics who do not support Obama and favor Clinton. Then, look at the white population and specifically how many women voters there are and who, as a high percentage, vote for Clinton and also TURN OUT TO VOTE IN HIGHER NUMBERS THAN ANY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC, inluding young voters, and men.
In addition, there will be a huge turnout of Republican women crossing over to vote for the first woman President of the U.S. It has already begun in the primaries. Do your homework then you will not have to ask such ignorant questions.
Posted by: Jenny | April 14, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Like I said last week. We in the Clinton camp are just sitting back and watchiing his errors do him in.
Last Week: “We Need White People”
This Week: “Bitter”
Hillary Is The Wise Choice For Our Country.
Go Hillary Go !!!!
Raymond
Posted by: Raymond R | April 14, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
hey kevin, How can Obama win the GE without the Jewish votes!
Be careful, jewish voters are very and deeply angry! Obama campaign got help from Hamas and it was even at Aljezira TV as of march 31, 2008!
Obama can not even win NY, MA, NJ,PA,OH
Posted by: PA JEWS | April 14, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Happiness: If you are a professional “femail”, then you are of a new gender. Yes hope and change are beautiful words indeed, having what it really takes to inspire hope and ascertain change, is another different one. You do that with actions, not words you know. Any professional female can see the difference.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Keith –
I beg to differ. I think Obama can get McCain elected just as surely as Clinton can. McCain is far from perfect but the other two are so bad they make McCain look like McSaint.
Posted by: jijalagi | April 14, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
I am a Canadian observer with no interest in either candidate. Having followed this campaign with great interest I believe that there is some kind of set up to push Obama to be the nominee so that McCain can win the general election. Both candidates have made mistakes and have their weaknesses, but Obama’s gaffes and untruths wil be expoded by the republican machine.I fel sorry for him.
Posted by: millie s | April 14, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Obama demonizes PA and smalltown voters in his rabid comments, probably because PA Gov Rendall and Philadelphia Mayor Nutter came out with support for Hillary. He doesn’t seem to be able to handle any type of criticism even when he is clearly in the wrong. At least he denounced Farrakhan’s endoresment after Hillary told him she was concerned about this endorsement which could be a divisive showstopper for the Democratic party.
Posted by: Ted | April 14, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
I think Hillary did an excellent job in the forum last night. All of her answers and responses to the questions were right on target. Obama, still did not answer the question about “small town” America. He also contradicted himself many times, i.e., saying he is a Christian, but yet, he believes in evolution. Hillary, was very convincing in statements about her faith, God’s influence in her life, and her veiws of religion as President. Go Hillary, the next President of the United States!
Posted by: david from texas | April 14, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
So Bo says who does she think she is Annie Oakley
Well who does he think he is with his poor attempt at comedy Sheriff Bart from Blazing Saddles?
His arrogance has come through loud and clear as of late
He is as conceited as his wife Mo
Clinton seemed far more comfortable in her faith than the stuttering BO did
Posted by: Betty | April 14, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
OOPS! I meant exploded and I feel sorry for Obama.
Posted by: millie s | April 14, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
You don’t see too many instances in the media of Obama’s elitism but it is definitely there. It’s very
unfortunate that Americans may very well see a
lot of it in the near future. You should read some
articles in the Chicago tribune about his past. As
an example, how he was positioned to look as if
he were the guy who could get the cooperation of
Republicans when he was in the Illinois legislature,
and then got this reputation for being the” ideas ”
guy when again thanks to his mentor, after a lot
of people did a lot of work on innovative bills he
ended up getting all the credit. He will do the same
when he gets into the Presidency. Many of his so
called” brilliant ” ideas have been around and have
been fought for against impossible odds by the
Democratic Party for the last eight years at least.
They are not Obama’s ideas people. One of the
people who has been in Washington D.C. and has
been fighting for these ideas a lot longer is his
opponent, another minority by the way, a woman named Hillary Clinton. Why do you think she
has gotten so much heat from Conservatives for
so long. Her history with fighting Conservatives
goes all the way back to being a firebrand in the
Watergate investigation of Richard Nixon. Was
Obama in diapers then? Close to it. When this
guy lied about how his father was a poor ” goat
farmer ” when he was a prominent businessman
no one in the press got on it anywhere near as
much as the HIllary gaff in Bosnia. When he lied
about how his father came here thanks to John
F Kennedy so he could cash in on the Kennedy
name no one got on him about it. When he comes out with a nonsense line like I wish I could have ” worded ” it better he gets away with the ” bitter ” remark. It is about a lot more than his wording. It is about his character. When people talked about what kind of character he was displaying when he went to Reverend Wright’s sermons he actually got away with a ” you would not understand it, it’s a black thing ” excuse. It was not about a ” black ” thing at all. It was about a ” hate ” thing. Now put together who that hatred of Reverend Wright’s sermons were directed towards to the people Obama was talking about when he made the” bitter ” remark and you see who Obama is feeling” bitter ” towards. Could it be the working poor and the working class, small town White folks
Posted by: Dave | April 14, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Every comment I have read – and I usually skip the long ones – have all been bitter comments. Obama is right – people who are suffering from the poor economy are bitter. I am bitter, my dog is bitter, too. We need better. Can’t people just admit we need better and not bitter?
Obama 08
Posted by: jmat | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
PA JEWS
The polls don’t support your assertion. In fact, Obama and Clinto are currently splitting the Jewish votes almost 50-50. Against McCain, Obama is winning the Jewish vote. Check the polls at Realclearpolitics.com.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Keith: Yes, there are over 3,000 paid Obama bloggers. Obama himself said it in “The View.” That is why sometimes when you post here before your comments are posted you get this screen from ABC that says something like: “You are asked to enter the code below to prevent mechanic robots to post.” So I guess you only need to call the Obama campaign and you will get yourself a new job.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Tim wrote:
I don’t know about you, but I’m bitter and I have no problem someone calling me as such. If you are not bitter about a bad economy, a horrible housing market, an even worse war and no health care then there is something wrong with you. I can’t believe on HRC actually trying to capitilize on a rival politician being honest. What a scumbag. Just looking at her makes me quesy.
=================================
Tim I don’t care what you say, America has the best health care system in the world. It’s not great but it is better than anyone in ANY country. I have traveled the world and saw too much waiting for weeks before a person can see the doctor and often wait months for an operation that is badly needed. You need to really study the plans and investigate yourself instead of listening to the crap on all these forums.
Posted by: barefootboy9 | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Rezko is SYRIAN..when Obama needed Rezko to buy the vacant lot next to his Obamamansion, Rezko received a $3.5 million dollar wire transfer through SYRIA, via an Iraqui billionaire, who has been convicted of fraud in France. Since Rezko was under FEDERAL INVESTIGATION and had creditors banging at his door, he gave his wife money to go BUY THE VACANT LOT NEXT TO OBAMAMANSION – THE SELLERS DEMANDED THE TWO SALES CLOSE ON THE SAME DAY!! Obama and Rezko’s wife closed the deal on the same day – Rezko’s wife paid full price, Obama received a $300,000.00 DISCOUNT! Obama’s friends: Rezko, Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers, Khalidi, Said, and he supports Jimmy Carter going to talk with Hamas! Who else is Obama hiding in his closet? Larry Sinclair??
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
When we elect a US President, we elect someone who will represent us to the world. Check out Obama and the Kenya elections and his 2006 visit to Kenya during the Kenya election campaign. His cousin Odinga, from the same Luo tribe as Obama, ran on a platform supporting strict islamic law to apply to all people. Odinga claims Obama was in-country to support his platform and run for office. Hillary called on Kenya leaders to obtain intervention to resolve the election disputes. Where was Obama in helping to resolve this dispute? – he looked the other way? Unfortunately over 1000 tribes people died, mostly Christians at the hands of Odinga before this was recently resolved.
Posted by: Jilly | April 14, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Sen. Hillary Clinton: “As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive; who are rolling up their sleeves. They are working hard every day for a better future, for themselves and their children. “Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them. They need a president who stands up for them, who fights for them, who works hard for your futures, your jobs, your families.”
Sen. Obama has explicitly said that he would be the candidate to bring the country together. This “bringing together” was a central part of his political logic and of his candidacy. But talking to San Francisco group of affluent liberal supporters of his in a closed-door fundraising event, Sen. Obama was damning rural America and the working class. This was slandering America’s heartland. Sen. Obama did not hurt anyone but his own chances of winning the nomination. How can he propose to bring the country together with such hubris and with such divisive tone of condemnation of the “other Americans” who were not there to give him money or vote for him? This is sheer arrogance. Sen. Obama’s bigotry is clear against rural American’s and working class Americans, women and Latinos. To nominate Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate would be a huge mistake. Winning the White House for the democrats is still with Sen. Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: charleychaplin | April 14, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
PA Jews
Let me add to my previous comment. The reason why Obama is still pulling nearly 50% of the Jewish vote against Clinton is two-fold: (1) The Jews don’t see themselves as a voting bloc, unlike blacks and Latinos. I am of Jewish decent, so I know this. (2) Most Jews are college educated and make good money. So economically, we look like Obama’s base. We are smart enough to see the nuances in his comments.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Great Obama! We see the evil with your opponents. Deliberately twisting things just to discredit you. Just for the sake of winning. Just because they think they have a claim to the presidency. Even the most dumb in our country knows well that you could not have meant what people are suggesting. But as it stands, everything to win. Just everything to win is the game. Some of us reason beyond that and we will support you all through out. We need real change and I see that in you.
Posted by: Dee K | April 14, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
If anyone thinks this guy is any more honest than the other candidates they are crazy, overstating his invovlement in legislation, not knowing what his spiritual advisor/pastor talks about on sunday too busy campaign to hold a committee meeting on afghanistan. Look if he wants my vote and I voted for hillary then it’s not too late but don’t come off as the saviour of america because the people of america save america. Just simply go hold a committee meeting on afghanistan and do what you can there or resign and let someone else do it. Is it worth having that defense committee chairman on your resume if “one” soldier dies because of inaction. That would be impressive and show leadership. I understand misspoken or misinterpretations, but I can’t fathom or accept outright neglect. So do something about it or in Nov. even if you are the nominee, this is one democrat who will stay home.
Posted by: ronart | April 14, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
So let me see if I get this straight; the fact that some Palestinians support Obama means he’s pro-Hamas and he’s anti-semitic?
Republican women for Hillary lol. Some of her most ardent critics for the past decade are now her supports and this bears no resemblence to Rush’s Operation Chaos.
See this sort of stuff is why I want more government and civics classes taught on the high school level. An uninformed mind is a terrible waste.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
One thing that is INDISPUTABLE and NO ONE can disagree with is that HILLARY CLINTON IS A LIAR
(as was witnessed by the constant LIES HILLARY she made about ducking bullets in Bosnia, to name but a few of HER LIES)!
She is a POWER HUNGRY LIAR that will do anything and everything (including ripping the Democratic party apart) to win the election. She stayed with her adulterous husband for MONEY and POWER and that was her only motivation. In touch? Her family made in excess of $100,000,000 in 7 years (not including 2007), how the heck can she be in touch with poor struggling people who have no jobs and no prospects for the future??? Think about it people!!!
Posted by: Danny | April 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
And this is who the Obamacans want for their next President. Instead of taking responsibility for his bigoted remarks about hard working Americans he attacks evryone else like we are too stupid to understand what he meant. I got the Message loud and clear. You and your wife Michelle are both ignorant snobs who think you are better than anyone else. I don’t need an arrogant jerk to tell me how to feel or tell me I don’t get it. Give up Obama every time you try and defend youurself you just keep stepping in deeper. You are a disgrace to the Democratic Party. No more sermons from you .
Posted by: Linda | April 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Ronart if Obama is to be held accountable for even 1 soldier dying in Afghanistan because he didn’t hold a committee meeting, then how should we judge Hillary for voting for the use of force in Iraq. How many of the 4000+ dead soldiers should we lay at her feet.
Again, glaring lack of knowledge about American politics. If everyone in Congress or the Senate running for office was to resign because they were campaign, then the whole darn congress would shut down relaibly every year prior to elections. Free your mind by bathing it is some facts.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
More forrums like this one would give voters a pretty good idea on who they are voting for. I think we should hear from religious scholars as well as professors in economics and social studies and just plain folks of different ages and socio-economic background. Let the candidates answer our questions directly No media Filtrage.
this means No much money for the media well than the forum should be at the cost of a reasonable speech time. At least your station will be recognized as an honest people involed network.
and you guys can rotate too. the object isto let people make their decision based on fact not fiction.
Go!!! ABC
Posted by: ruthmatters | April 14, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Obama is the biggest, power hungry, money hungry, elitist LIAR EVER!! Obama will REWRIGHT the constitution to the TUCC of Africa!!TUCCULATER OBAMA!!!
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Your right Linda you don’t need an arrogant jerk to tell you feel or think. You already have an administration faithfully filling that position and a republican candidate willing to give you 4 more years of the same.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Why do we need Obama? Let’s just nominate David Axelrod. Those words comparing Hillary to Annie Oakley are his anyway. All Obama has to offer are words, and too often they are (a) not his, (b) proving him unelectable, and (c) full of nothing but “hope for change” instead of any actual solutions he would have a prayer of getting past Congress.
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | April 14, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Chris grow up. Politicans have been using speech writers and advisor comments since the early years of this country. Historical campaigning from 100+ years ago has as much mudslinging as today. Furthermore, Hillary would be in half the mess she’s stepped in if she actually listen to some of her advisors.
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
I can hope Hillary will really be against NAFTA, inspite of it being her husbands legacy. I can hope that Hillary will get us out of a war she voted to start. I can hope that her being married to a politician for 35 years really means she has 35 years of political experience. I can hope for Hillary to deliver on her promise to bring jobs back to America even though she failed to deliver on that promise to the folks of New York when she ran for the Senate. Wow your right, hope sucks lol
Posted by: Keith | April 14, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Like higher taxes? Vote democratic.
If you like socialzed medicine, vote democratic. People need to read what will happen to healthcare when the dems take over. Waiting 2-3 months for a ct scan/mri for a diagnosis won’t be fun but it will be real.
Posted by: Becky M. | April 14, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
I think Obama made a mistake, but I also think Clinton is dancing a very dangerous dance here. Unlike most people in these blogs, I actually use facts. Looking at the Rasmussen polls that came out this morning, they concluded (and I agree) that this issue will have no effect on the Democratic Primary. The Pennsylvania primary is closed and new registration is over. There are very few undecided and those undecided are leaning Obama. Those that take offense to these comments were not going to vote for Obama anyway. Most undecided are in the Philly area and most are blacks. Right now Hillary is pulling 20% of the black vote in Philly. Her relentless attack of Obama, IMO, will drop that margin significantly and also affect her with Independents who see her as a “does anything to win” type of person. Regarding the General election, I think Obama needs to fight this comment differently. But for this Democratic process, I think Clinton has overplayed her hand significantly. Watch for Pennsylvania polls that will come out after the debate on Wednesday. I think Clinton has allowed Obama to show the toughness that he hasn’t shown before. Just like the Rev. Wright issue, this might turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Obama, at least for the Primary.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Obama reminds me too much of Bush. Never can admit that he’s wrong. Instead of taking back his foul words he tries to shift blame & bully.
Notice in his comeback that all of the words he that he claimed to have repeatedly talked about were after the fact. He’s in full damage control mode & it’s surprising that the media hasn’t called him on it yet.
Obama knows all about “clinging” to hate filled racist preachers.
Obama is too arrogant to be president.
Posted by: Botfort | April 14, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Keith – Thanks for the advice, but alas I am already grown up… and well aware of how politics works including the use of campaign staff and paid writers. My advice to you is to get the point of my sarcastic remark… Obama has gotten to this point on the basis of well crafted speaches, and a very appealing way of delivering them. Unfortunately (as I am a liberal who will vote for whichever Democrat is nominated), this will not actually get Obama elected.
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | April 14, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
So you only voted for GW because he said he would ban gay marriage. Wow of all things to vote for someone for you chose that. WOW, the war the economy is not important but gay marriage is. That’s Too Funny
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
They all make it said good and do nothing for us after they get in.We will see if our fuel,food price come down!!!But I didn’t like what was said about pa small town people.Because I live in a small town and was raised around guns and go to church every sunday believe and love god very much!!! So go Hillary !!! I was a not really sure who I was going to vote for until that day…He has made a huge mistake making that statement I believe!!!
Posted by: BRENDA | April 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
They all make it said good and do nothing for us after they get in.We will see if our fuel,food price come down!!!But I didn’t like what was said about pa small town people.Because I live in a small town and was raised around guns and go to church every sunday believe and love god very much!!! So go Hillary !!! I was a not really sure who I was going to vote for until that day…He has made a huge mistake making that statement I believe!!!
Posted by: BRENDA | April 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Keith: Obama is the POLITICS OF CHANGE!!! Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha…..
Harold Ford Jr. for president!!!
Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
What is wrong with people. Obama only spoke the truth. I come from a small town in the midwest. yeah they are bitter and do cling to rediculous issues. I agree he shouldn’t of said it. Oh well doesn’t change my view of him. Hillary is digusting as ussual. This would be hillary reinventing herself for the millionth time. Now shes a hunter. wow. obama 08′
Posted by: brian | April 14, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
He will not win in the general. This guy has been questioned how many times about his ant-american sentiments along with his wife’s and preacher’s of 20 years. Do you think the majority of True Blue, Red White and Blue Americans are going to pick him over McCain the war hero? Start thinking realistically. This has crippled his campaign.
Posted by: Bruce | April 14, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
I think Obama’s biggest problem (and the polls show this) is weakness. This issue allows him the opportunity to FIGHT. he needs to stand in theer and fight the Clintons in Pennsylvania. Obama lost in Ohio and Texas not because of Rev. Wright or “bitter” comments, but because people didn’t think he could fight for them. He shouldn’t have even apologized at all. he needs to stand theer and fight these people. Show that he is tough too. This Mr. Nice Guy BS doesn’t cut it anymore.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Definately Common Sense….BTW the Clinton campaign is also “seating” minorities at her speaches…Lpus don’t put words in my mouth. I brought up nothin about race….my comment was thatt many women are migrating to Hillary because she is a women. And are doing this blindly because they want a female in the whitehouse. I have been asked my self why I support Obama.Adn told I am a disgrace to all females. I would vote of him even if he was purple and a non-gender. I see people for what they represent and their character. For me, Obama has great character and he is a genually good man. We need this type of person in control.
Posted by: cindyct | April 14, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Obama is the most cynical politician in my lifetime.
Posted by: lmiller | April 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Bruce
I think it is premature to start talking about the General election. At the end of the day, most Americans do not care about this ultra-patriotic BS. I really believe that either Democrat will easily beat McCain. Not because McCain is bad, but people will not want to have a Bush third-term under a circumstance. Don’t worry, Obama or Clintion will have 3 chances to dismantle McCain in the debates. Have you seen McCain indebates? He is God-awful. Besides, didn’t he call his wife a c*nt? McCain ahs ahad a free ride of this. He has not been tested.
Posted by: Kevin | April 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Kevin you are the one missing the point here….I said…..My husband owns guns because he like to hunt…..Is he bitter about owning a gun ..No …My family loves God Does this make us bitter…No….Are we bitter because the way Obama has handled this…Yes….I remember Michelle Obama…Saying this…..Michelle, my wife, she was traveling up, I think, in eastern Iowa, she was driving through this nice, beautiful area, going through all this farmland and hills and rivers and she said ‘Boy, it’s really pretty up here,’ but she said, ‘But you know, I can see why if I was living out here, I’d want a gun. Because, you know, 911 is going to take some time before somebody responds. You know what I mean? You know, it’s like five miles between every house.’ ….So this right here shows just how much he is out of touch with America….And what did he mean with the 911 remark in this ?….He sounds just like his pastor wright…Hillary 08…Just because my husband likes to hunt Obama says he votes for it out of bitterness…Obama is way out of touch and has aways been…I want to know why he is so bitter…Is it because of his chosen words …Or is it that he thought that he was behide closed doors and America would not hear him talking about how he really sees them….Why hasn’t he talked this way in public why did he wait till he thought that he would not be heard by the American people….To say this
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
You must have just been born yesterday then.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Brian…you are so right….I am a middle clas working person and I am bitter. My American dream is coming to an end. I bought my house 7 years ago and have always paid my bills. Now I find between the cost of living, no pay raise in 7 years and the cost of gas, I am going under. Every month I need to decide whether to pay untilities or buy food. I make too much money to get state of federal help. Obama is totally right. A lot us are BITTER…..
Posted by: cindyct | April 14, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Kevin 10:55AM – what in the world do you mean “it is premature to start talking about the general election”???? That is supposed to be the one and only purpose of the primary process – to nominate the best person to WIN the general election!!!!
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | April 14, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Want a view of how the US economy is doing. I just heard that many restaraunts are cutting portions slightly to help cover the rising prices. There are numerous other tricks to fool people going to eat there. That may seem petty but but its ideal, of what type of shape our economy is in. And you want to vote for another republican if your precious candidate isn’t nominated. You idiots, don’t realize that republicans have a horrible record on economy. Go ahead you will eat your vote I promise you that. And I will laugh in your stupid little faces. This is not directed to Republicans as they will vote for McCain anyway. This is for the Dems that are talking ship jumping. When you eat those votes, don’t blaim anyone but your stupid little arrogant self.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Kevin, I disagree. I’m thinking the “devout” democrats are thinking very seriously about the general election right now and just how much of a mess they have on their hands. And I really disagree with you about most Americans not caring about the ultra patriotic BS. I’m guessing Obama and his crew have been thinking the same way you have and are just now realizing what a huge mistake that was. The republicans win because of the “God Bless America” crowd – you know, the majority of Americans.
Posted by: Bruce | April 14, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
ITS TIME FOR BLACKS TO RISE AND OBAMA WILL TAKE US THERE,,,
OBAMA -08
Posted by: rjoe | April 14, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
rjoe is a nobody he’s not even black here’s here to try to stir up more racial fighting.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Jason you are just as out of touch as Obama is …You really don’t have a clue….When one starts talking about ones gun rights in America you lose..Just like when Bush clamed that Kerry was going to take your guns….And Bush knew this….So you see Obama loses….Hillary 08
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Ok, I never said anything about guns? But anyway, there are more important things to vote about this year. To me voting for guns, is the equivalent to voting against gay marriage. Really not that important to me. As far as your attack on me, at least I’m not a staunch supporter of a blatant liar. And once again, at least he told the truth about the current state of the United States. He didn’t sugar coat it. “I don’t see bitter people, I see positive people.” That’s a very true statement!! Yeah um no.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Obama sounds like Britney Spears but Britney sounds better then Obama does… Oops!… I Did It Again and i did it again and again…We hear this alot out of Obama…Why?…..Because he can not get away from what he had been listening to for 20 years out of his head…..
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Why is anyone even responding to rjoe, he’s not even real, and he’s not even black. He’s trying to use race to spark argument.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Jason just because Obama and you don’t see voting for guns rights “Important” doesn’t make then less or make then bitter Voters…Yes there is alot of things that are important…But who doesn’t already know this….
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
As far as whom I support, ummm both. I’m not stupid enough to vote for a Republican, especially this year. The economy is going through the crapper. McCain at first said he didn’t know much about the economy. When he made a speach about economy, his response was its your fault you’re losing your home. He flat out said you’re stupid if you bought a home you can’t afford. Of course that’s true however, its a nationwide problem, its not just happening to a few people here and there…it’s all over the country. If you are stupid enough to vote for him because your candidate doesn’t get the nomination, then face it you are just an arrogant little baby, period. And when it backfires in your stupid little face..Rember what I’m telling you. Because Republicans are not good for the economy. Look at our last two republican presidents. Ronald Reagan is the exception, he was actually a great pres. But who actually topped him..a Dem Bill Clinton. Who screwed it back up GB 1 and GB 2.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
You know, when the Bosnia incident of Hillary came-out, Obama never touch the subject..you know why…He didnt have too…The media did all the work for him…
Posted by: Rick | April 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Somebody else that can’t read. He didn’t say those things make people bitter. What he actually said was when times are hard ie…the economy family members being killed in a war that they may or may not believe in, they find comfort in things they know…religion, guns, other family members. Don’t change the words to fit your hatred of the man. I in fact don’t have a problem with guns, what I do think is that their needs to be a filter of who can and cannot have them. When you are from small cities, you don’t see the crime that happens in the big cities. That’s the problem with politics..a person cannot cover the whole United States. On top of that voters are so sellfish that they don’t see what happens outside of themselves.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Obama called it, the majority of the American public is exceptionally bitter about politics, government and getting screwed to death by both all the time. So what’s all the hoo-rah?? Hillary sounds absolutely stupid about this so-called “flap” and so does McPain (Hillary in particular sounds like Pollyanna) — more proof both of them are out of touch.
Posted by: AC` | April 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
SHAME ON OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN WIFE1
THIS JUST IN: “WE NEED MORE DUMB PEOPLE”
OBAMA IS FORMING THE BACKDROP FOR HIS NOVEMBER ASPIRATIONS: 5 YELLOW PEOPLE, 4 BROWN PEOPLE, 20 WHITE PEOPLE, 1 BLACK PERSON, 4 GREEN PEOPLE, 20 PURPLE PEOPLE AND 55 “MILLION” DUMB PEOPLE REQUIRED.
THE OBAMA COMMITTEE WILL MOVE PEOPLE AROUND FROM WHERE THEY WERE SITTING TO HAVE MORE “DUMB” PEOPLE IN THE FRONT ROW, SITTING DIRECTLY BEHIND OBAMA, TO CHEER HIM ON.
OBAMA, MICHELLE, PELOSI, DEAN, REID, KENNEDY, KERRY AND JEREMIAH WRIGHT ARE STUCK ON STUPID!
DON’T YOU JUST LOVE IT!
HILLARY 2008!
Posted by: 1ProudAmerican | April 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
According to Roget’s Thesaurus, the synonyms for “bitter” as an adjective are resentful, offended, worked up, angry, wrathful, irate, indignant, envious, jealous. How many of this adjectives describe you as a voter?
Many of these adjectives describe what you have written on this blog. Maybe another ABC voter survey with multiple choice questions about the major campaign issues, i.e.; the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy, the unemployed, child abuse, and so on would be in order. I am sure you have also heard the saying, “It takes one to call one.” There are more important issues to discuss or talk about concerning the USA than Obama Barack using the wrong word in a speech.
Posted by: Judith | April 14, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
According to Roget’s Thesaurus, the synonyms for “bitter” as an adjective are resentful, offended, worked up, angry, wrathful, irate, indignant, envious, jealous. How many of this adjectives describe you as a voter?
Many of these adjectives describe what you have written on this blog. Maybe another ABC voter survey with multiple choice questions about the major campaign issues, i.e.; the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy, the unemployed, child abuse, and so on would be in order. I am sure you have also heard the saying, “It takes one to call one.” There are more important issues to discuss or talk about concerning the USA than Obama Barack using the wrong word in a speech.
Posted by: Judith | April 14, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Obama is nothing but a big baby with a god complex.
Posted by: Kris | April 14, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Obama has nothing that relates to my thinking…Obama stands for things i don’t so why should i vote for him when he’s not the man for me ?….Hillary stands for what i believe in…If you don’t stand for something then you fall for anything…And Obama has nothing to offer….
Posted by: Patricia | April 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
jackt51: No he can’t. Meaning he will not win the nomination for the presidency. If that’s what your thinking you better wake up and think again. He really made a mistake in that comment about a small town. Why would small towns cling to guns? Gang bangers cling to guns. Where has Obama been lately? I can’t wait for the debate either and see if he makes another stupid statement.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Mariann you are wrong in every way possible. First of he wasn’t raised by his White Mother, he was raised by his White Grandparents who didn’t even like blacks. Not only that, he chose to live with them because he didn’t really fit in to his mothers way of living. So once again don’t change things to fit your hatred of him.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
I hope that they both loose… and the Demo party is distroyed..I can’t wait for this madness to end….
Posted by: Dan Fisher | April 14, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
LOL you people are like High School Kids spreading lies about the person you don’t like so that you can make others not like them. The problem is there are some that may be stupid enough to believe them, but most are adults, and think for themselves. She’s slept with all the guys from the football team, so I could never be friends with her…Sounds like so many of you idiots posting here.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I’m an Independent, and I will NOT vote for Obama. At all. Ever. He is an arrogant elitist who tells his audience what that want to hear.
I already mailed in my vote for Hillary. If she’s not the nominee, then it’s McCain in 2008. No question about that at all.
Posted by: Ryan from Indiana | April 14, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Mariann – That’s not the point I was making. My point is, in getting elected you need to be presidential. The majority of Americans are extremely proud and the majority of them that will actually go and vote are very patriotic and see it as their duty. Obama, his wife and pastor of 20 years have all been involved in anti-american sentiments. It is not very presidential for a candidate running for the presidency of the United States of American to have to explain to the American public that yes, they do like America. The president should possess an aura that leaves no doubt that he or she would defend this country to the very end if need be. Just like the millions of Americans before us. I don’t think anyone will question McCain’s love for his country. I don’t think anyone will question Clinton’s love for her country. I think many people have and will continue to question Obama’s love for his country – especially if he gets to the general. This in and of itself will prevent him from winning the position of President of the United States.
Posted by: Bruce | April 14, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
jackt51: If you are a vietnam vet why don’t you join John Kerry who is endorsing Obama for president. Wasn’t Kerry the candidate that lost the election. Well, that’s what is going to happen to Obama. He will not get the nomination believe me. And when comments are made about Hillary Clinton those commentors should look at the background of Obama. What a mess and the nerve to run for president of this country. Rezko, Ayres, Farrakhan and Wright. Those are some friends.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
I would like to say one more thing that I hope might be relevant to this discussion. Roget’s Thesaurus synonyms for the noun elite are goodness, virtue, excellence, merit, value, worth, perfection, eminence, superiority, pick of the litter, salt of the earth, tops, second to none, gem, jewel, treasure, one in a million, beneficence. Obama should take John McCain’s and Hillary Clinton’s words as a compliment, and not be defensive and wear his heart on his sleeve. Also, I would like to comment about one observation that I have made: the Clintons improving their income from a 6-digit figure to a 9-digit figure of $109 million seems to me to be greed but some people might call this elitist. What charities do the Clintons support?
Posted by: JC | April 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
LOL don’t you think his past was looked at before now. Do you think he made it all the way here without his past being disected and everything else. You really don’t have a point at all, your ability to think for yourself is hindered by your blind support for your candidate. You really have not true reason for hating him except that you blind love for Hillary makes him your enemy or there could be other reasons.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Jason: Let me go on record to say that Obama’s mother took him to Indonesia to live before he ever went to his grandmoithers. His mother married a man in Indonesia for the third time and he was raised by his stepfather for a few years. I read his bio in the NY Times. Get a copy of it. It has nothing to do with hatred it has to do with the truth. Obama wouldn’t know the truth if he read it. Later he went to live with his grandmother who raised him because his mother died at age 53 of cancer. Where have you been? If anyone is racists talk about Pastor Wright the anti-american racists preacher who has close ties to Obama the candidate that attends that church and has been for 20 years. Obama was brought up racial. His mother had him read books on MLK and black people. Obama’s mother apparently didn’t like her own race because she never married a white man. His whole background is a complete mess.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
No – Shame on obama – shame on him for his lies, dishonesty and his arrogance. He really thinks he can say and do anything and gets very angry when challenged regarding statements and then blames Hillary Clinton. Obama has divided the Democrats and this nation. He has put civil rights back to when LBJ was president and obama doesn’t really care. He has established a cult and this cult will believe anything he says. Shame on obama.
If Clinton doesn’t get the nomination, I hope that McCain wins by a landslide. Then, maybe this arrogant fool will get lost forever and if we are really lucky, we will never hear about him again. Go Hillary and Go McCain.
To the obama supporters = obama 2008 – No You Can’t.
Posted by: Lou | April 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
JC: The Clinton’s earned their millions by accomplishing their goals. Not sitting back and complaining about other millionaires. Get a life. What are you doing to accomplish your goals. Maybe then you can become a millionaire. There is a lot of jealousy over the Clinton’s money. They are not billionaires like Gates and Zell. So why all the fuss.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 14, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
LOL, so because his mother had him read books on MLK and other black people, that makes him a racist. And the problem with that is what. So I guess since you’ve never read books on black people that should make you a racist too. And because his mother married other than a white man she hates her race. YOU ARE AN IDIOT, that has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day. I need to go read a book to rebuild my intellect, you have killed my brain cells with your inability to reason. So because my wife married me that makes her hate her race and religion too right (Jewish). You are a clear indicator that race issues will never go away.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Another thing, the fact that his life was a mess, and he has become what he is…I think there’s a word for that, ummm lets see..oh yeah there it is..perseverance. Most people would give up on life and say my life has been a mess. I’m just gonna let the government take care of me. Not him..his White Grandparents raised him right. And for those that say he hates his grandparents, that’s another lie…TRY AGAIN
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Haha, I love how the ability to post comments on news sites has overnight, made everybody in the world a pundit. We’re all sitting in front of computers with our choice of poison, read an article, type a few random thoughts and – TaDAAA!!! We’re a think tank of one.
You know, if the posters really had informative stuff to say – they’d be a talking head on TV. Oh wait, we’re nobodies in front of a computer…..
Posted by: I'maGenius | April 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I think that the only way that he can end this controversy is to challenge Hillary to a caviar eating contest.
Posted by: Mack | April 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
LOL. I have a bridge in Mpls I’d like to sell all you clowns. Of course, it fell down ’bout a year ago, much like this election. The media echos every word these three stooges say, and you analyize it like it actually had any bearing on what these jokers will do, once any of them get into office. The three were hand picked. The others who could probably have actually changed the course of washington were not picked by the elites, and had no chance of winning. None of the so called front runners are worthy of anyones vote for president. The all have been caught lying and pandering. The thought of any of them in office is truly scary. It’s even worse to think some of you think any of them are worthy. Maybe it is true that Americans have been dumbed down because of our chemical diets, because your <70 IQ's are showing.
Posted by: Doug | April 14, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Ryan from Indiana – you claim to be an ‘independent’. If you voted for Hillary, you obviously voted Democratic – NOT independent. At least in Indiana, you have to declare your party affiliation when you vote in the primary. How could you vote for Hillary and declare as an independent? Seems the leading liar’s habits are trickling down to her supporters. I, too, am an independent and live in Indiana. But I’ll be a Democrat for the primary – and delighted to cancel out your vote. Obama ’08!
Posted by: makemyday2day | April 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Unless I’m mistaken, the whole diatribe began when Obama was asked by a supporter why the voters in Pennsylvania weren’t enthusiastically backing him. The explanation was that they were bitter and angry. Obama apparently can’t even consider the thought that they just don’t agree with his ideas or feel that he is the best qualified to do the job. Instead, they must be bitter and angry if they don’t swoon over him. Talk about arrogance!
Posted by: jmb-venice | April 14, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Jason – I applaud YOUR perseverance! Thank you for holding your ground against some of these “bitter” posters.
Posted by: makemyday2day | April 14, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
The proletariat doesn’t support you comrade.
Posted by: Mack | April 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Have you ever noticed how when anyone asks Obama a question he spends most of the answer telling them what they already know? Watch him next time and see.
Anyway, the wheels have fallen off his wagon. He’s totally unelectable in November. In addition to the Clintonistas who will flock to McCain, we can now add all moderate small-town Democrats. Plus the city dwellers who are spiritual, against illegal immigration and unfair trade, respect the 2nd Amendment, and resent being called bigoted – not because the economy has made them bitter but because that’s what they believe. St. Obama has revealed himself to be a first-rate jackass.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I AM PROFESSIONAL WHITE FEMAIL. INITIALLY A HILARY FAN, I HAVE NOW REALZED THAT HILARY DEMONIZES HER RIVAL JUST TO GET VOTES.
“I am Professional”, “Femial” -could it be that Obama is outsourcing his blogger business overseas? I would love to see where the IP of this blogger is from. I must admit you Obama bloggers are incredibly unoriginal and transparent plants. do you actually think other people believe these ridiculous stories and furthermore change their votes because of it?
Posted by: geevill | April 14, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
I AM PROFESSIONAL WHITE FEMAIL. INITIALLY A HILARY FAN, I HAVE NOW REALZED THAT HILARY DEMONIZES HER RIVAL JUST TO GET VOTES.
“I am Professional”, “Femail” -could it be that Obama is outsourcing his blogger business overseas? I would love to see where the IP of this blogger is from. I must admit you Obama bloggers are incredibly unoriginal and transparent plants. do you actually think other people believe these ridiculous stories and furthermore change their votes because of it?
Posted by: geevill | April 14, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
I haven’t noticed that, what I have noticed is that when Hillary is asked why did you lie about Bosnia she says oh well I misspoke(4x). I was sleep deprived. Or about why is she against the war all of a sudden, when she voted for it. She says if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn’t have voted for it. What about the people that didn’t vote for it, did they know something that she didn’t. She never said that she made a mistake in judgement for voting for it though. At least Edwards was man enough to say he made a judgment mistake. Well I’ve been shot at a few times, and I remember each one of them clearly. You don’t forget when your life is clearly in danger.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
LOL..So I’m assuming that since you are Hillary fan. She doesn’t have bloggers right? How about this one.
IT’S TIME FOR BLACKS TO STAND UP or BLACKS ARE TAKING OVER or WE DON’T NEED WHITE PEOPLE WE HAVE OBAMA.
If you don’t think that is a Hillary blogger you are insane. In fact, if you take the time out to read and actually count, I can guarantee that there are more negative Obama posts than Hillary. But I guess those are legitimate right???
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Have you noticed this. Most Hillary supporters (not all) are bashing Obama. Most Obama supporters (not all) are defending him. While you looking up the other one look up this one too. I’m not even a supporter of either, I’m a dem, and that’s the way I’ll vote for the General Election. I’m not stupid enough to give my vote to a Republican, especially when the country needs a dem the most. I actually think McCain would have been a good president..just not now. Maybe instead of Bush, but I wouldn’t have voted for him against Gore.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
As most of you already know, Barack Obama has gotten himself into another controversy regarding his apparent arrogance and apathy towards regular Americans. In a private and well shrouded fundraiser amongst the rich elite of San Francisco, and in the mansion of Pakistan native and ardently Muslim millionaire Sohaib Abbasi (CEO of Informatica), Obama was recorded saying: “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” In the same speech, Obama is also recorded as saying that: “When people tell me they’ve all stressed about racial discord, well, you know, try slavery for a while,” obviously playing on the sentiments of these highly affluent (White and Arab) people who would basically presume that if you have dark skin in America you must therefore be connected in some way to slavery, although, as we all know, this is CLEARLY not the case.
Posted by: Sherry | April 14, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
So Sherry after all that writing what exactly was your point?
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
The main problem with Senator Barack Obama’s “comeback” remarks thrown at Senator Hillary Clinton, is that he, quite simply, lied. He ABSOLUTELY believed in what he was saying to that elitest crowd of super rich campaign contributors in San Francisco. His firm, deeply held belief is that uneducated, blue collar voters in PA [and in other states as well] only vote against gun control and gay marriage because they are out of work, poor, and “bitter”. They feel the need to blame someone, so they chose to blame Washington. THAT was the crux of what he said and the crux of what he BELIEVES. He is now back-peddling just like the “typical Washington politician” he constantly claims NOT to be! This man is a sham. If his strong, 20-year support of Pastor Wright’s anti-white racism did not convince you to steer clear of this man, his comments in San Francisco surely should!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | April 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Um, Jason, if you need to have poster “Sherry”‘s comments spelled out for you; allow me – Senator Barack Obama is an elitist PHONEY BALONEY. He is also an extremely angry, frustrated black man who is still running to slavery as the reason for America’s problems. Is that clear enough for you Jason?
Posted by: PhillyPaul | April 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Um, Jason, if you need to have poster “Sherry”‘s comments spelled out for you; allow me – Senator Barack Obama is an elitist PHONEY BALONEY. He is also an extremely angry, frustrated black man who is still running to slavery as the reason for America’s problems. Is that clear enough for you Jason?
Posted by: PhillyPaul | April 14, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Why is it, that BO can call Hillary every “politically correct” name in the book, yet if HE gets called out for HIS OWN words, he cries like a baby and blames everyone else for how people react?
He has called her untrustworthy, unlikable, negative, yes Out of Touch, devisive,old-washington, status-quo…etc…etc….HE’S SUCH A HYPOCRITE……He has also criticized the ONLY successful democratic president we’ve had in DECADES! Why have we only had ONE in 30-40 years? Because the dems keep trying to put up ELITISTS like BO…..
Posted by: Sharon | April 14, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
NO Obama tODAY, NO Obama TOMORROW, NO OBama next WEEK, NO Obama next MONTH and NO Obama in November.. Him and his buddy Mr.WRONG are both just as racist as the KKK..And regardless of what they think, BLACKS do NOT own the Whitehouse.
Posted by: Pat M | April 14, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I own guns for protection, hunting and because I like to shoot, not because I’m bitter. I go to church and practice my religion out of need and love of God, not because I’m bitter. I oppose amnesty for illegal aliens because they bring poverty and crime to the America they say they want to annex to Mexico. I oppose NAFTA because we need to keep jobs here, not export them to Mexico. I don’t feel that way because of bitterness. …… I feel bitterness because our politicians don’t know or care what we want, need or feel. Certainly Obama is elitist, almost as elitist as Hillary. Either they don’t get it or they don’t care. They’ll just lie again and most Americans will buy it as they always do.
Posted by: jijalagi | April 14, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
So philly since you found the need to attack me, what exactly is he angry about. Since he’s so angry, I’m dying to know. Addtionally he has not run to slavery or race about anything. His pastor said some statements that were unfortunate, and he stood up and denounced them. Was it politically motivated of course. Additionally, he’s never cried about anything. Additionally to that, he stood byside his words that he made about the whole “bitter” incident. It’s Hillary and McCain that have attempted to make him look like an “elitist”. While many understand clearly what he was saying PEOPLE ARE BITTER UNLESS YOU LIVE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET, AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. He specifically said that while he could have chosen better words, he still meant what he said. How is that back pedaling, please tell me. It could be that your issue is that you have a lack of reading comprehension, or you’ve had your daily dose of Hillary Kool-Aid.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
If you wanna see the video of Hillary and Obama go to CNN/politics. There’s not back pedaling there. You’ll see the both of them. To me Hillary had nothing intelligent to say. They asked her do you really believe that Obama is demeaning small town people, she ran around the question. She said “let’s talk about what he said.” If she really felt that way she should have said YES I DO. I’d respect her more if she did that.
Posted by: Jason | April 14, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Aren’t we all prone to the same shenanigans when we’re in a verbal argument that we know can’t get physical that we so badly want to? Of course we are. These people are just people. Obama lacks experience but he doesn’t lack character. Hillary lacks capability and she makes the US look weak overall. Corporations and big business are betting their money on Mr. McCain. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts he comes out on top.
Posted by: AG | April 14, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Who is the real Obama?
Posted by: This Obama vs. That Obama | April 14, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
He is so full of himself…it so so strange…he never thought anyone would be aware oof what he said, that where not in the room at the time…it is like….oh no did I really say that truth that I think OUT LOUD…oops I thought I was just talking to my wife
Posted by: Mary B | April 14, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Ex-Obama supprter, I understand because I am a ex-Hillary supporter. Hillary is old and tired so she can’t wake up to answer the phone at 3 am, oh, wait she might have a senior moment and mis-speak! Obama 08*******
Posted by: Emilianna | April 14, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Shame on you Obama!!!!, You work with Rezko, steal peoples money, I bet you was used to sell drugs in Hawaii, also use pots in college,too. I read Larry Sinclair about you , that happen in 1999 at Minn, you were using pots, I know you are liar with your mouth sneer. You are still with wright when no see you go insdie . Your name is Omama-liar – rezko!! You are worthless person. I will dig your backgrounds then will let everyone know about you. too bad! I am tired of you , you are whimpering if even you make mistake. too bad. Many peoples don`t want to see your face again and please leave USA now
Posted by: Roy Morris | April 14, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Anyone who refuses to see Obama’s words in context simply don’t want to. Those of you vilifying him here never intended on voting for him in the first place. Everyone screaming IN ALL CAPS here or using the exclamation point like the key is stuck, well, I think you are all proving Senator Obama’s point. If you’re not bitter, why are you on here yelling in print? If you really take a moment to reflect on your lives over the last 20 years or so, isn’t it infuriating? Do you honestly EVER feel the government takes into account your family and the life you live on a day-to-day basis? When he said (poorly worded, as he has admitted) that folks “cling to guns and religion” I completely understand the statement. When you have nothing, when you’ve been stripped of your job and often your dignity (because Bill Clinton with Hillary as his biggest cheerleader passed NAFTA that sent jobs overseas and closed American plants) then you do cling to those things that you hold dear. You make a statement with a single issue because it is one that you refuse to negotiate. Obama has long been a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment while Hillary Clinton has voted for gun control. And honestly, we should be able to have a conversation about a certain amount of gun control while agreeing that hunters have a right to “bear arms.” When Hillary talks like she is hunting every weekend, she is clearly pandering to the voters. (I’m like you! I hunt like you! If you aren’t aware of it, that lake she talks about where she went hunting was their SUMMER HOME. If you don’t think she has always been wealthy, you have been misinformed.) When all else in your life seems to be taken away from you, OF COURSE you turn to your faith because that is the foundation upon which your life (many lives – not all folks have religion and in this country that is their prerogative) is based. Faith is the one thing you count on to hold you up in times of adversity. I see Senator Obama’s words for what they are; truth. This dust-up will pass and it is yet another reason to vote for a man who can stand up – with the unvarnished truth – to the distortions and lies his opponents throw at him. Unfortunately, this is the political culture of our country. Instead of talking about issues that will actually help put America back on the road to prosperity, we get distracted by wedge issues that are planted there by politicians who may know a lot about winning an election, but nothing about actually running a country. If you want to understand what kind of executive leadership qualities the two Democratic contenders possess, take a look at how they have run their campaigns. Who has raised more money by small doners? Obama’s average donation is $96. His campaign is filled with individuals who believe in him and want to be there. The press has commented on how focused they are. Hillary Clinton has rec’d more funds from pharmaceutical companies than any other candidate. And she is still losing the funding race. Her campaign is constantly in chaos. People within her campaign hate one another and there is constant infighting. She cannot manage personnel or finances. She doesn’t have the skills required to run her campaign. Do we really want her trying to run the country? Barack Obama has the skill to pull this out of the ditch and the desire to help all Americans live their best lives. [A politician looks forward only to the next election. A statesman looks forward to the next generation. -- Thomas Jefferson]
Posted by: millie-lou | April 14, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Republicans are working tirelessly and inventing false accusations about Obama. They scared the heal out of him. They also know that Clintons is not only hated by Republicans but also growing number of Democrats are disenchanted by her false accusations. Their main purpose is to get her nomination by any means. Why it is easy take to defect Clinton?
1) Most hated figure by Republicans, so that they can galvanize the republican base
2) She is the reminder of the 90’s scandals
3) Over 20 % Obama supporter will not vote for her
4) The democratic black voters block will be disappointed if Clinton is given the nomination by supper delegate as opposed to popular vote
Therefore, the option is left for us is to elect McBush or Obama?
Posted by: John Elias | April 14, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
ITS TIME FOR BLACKS TO RISE — OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: rjoe | April 14, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
ITS TIME FOR BLACKS TO RISE — OBAMA 08!!
Posted by: rjoe | April 14, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Pennsylvanian Voters don t be steer astray by Hillary Clinton who don t really
Care about you or any other Americans. All Hillary Clinton is interested in is
Satisfying her lobbyist Contributors, and Communist Governments . While
Barack Obama excepts no money from lobbyist, and is beholding only to the
American People be they , lower Income , Middle class or upper class the American People.
Consider the Pittsburgh Steelers up against the so called elite team Teams of
The NFL. Consider the Super Bowl XL Steelers 2006. Barack is
That the one really willing to go to the table for the American people
Not only just to win a game, but to win jobs, bring Industry back again
To employ citizens, and educate students with in the arts, and
Health, Science, Investments in our infrastructure. Rebuilding
, Retooling for a Stronger more powerful United States of America
The real elite in this Political area are the Clintons who will do much
Of anything to ruin this beautiful United States of America. Stand up,
stand tall vote for Barack Obama. A truly Constrictive Republican
Supporting Barack Obama. Vote Clinton if you not do care about
Your jobs being ship over seas, but also the Clinton will hand Theses United
States Over to the Chinese Government for a flew pieces of silver.
John McClain I admire much, but he’s not ready to be President.
Was not ready in year 2000, and certainly not ready now. McClain
Belong to the same Clinton Club. Conservative Republican for
Barack Obama.
Posted by: Jack | April 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Well done Barack! Now rehire Samantha Power and i’ll be unwavering in support. Good luck from across the pond!
Posted by: Diran | April 14, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
you also accused the people in pennsylvania of being racist, yet you never addressed that comment last night on the religious forum. if you are a man of God as you claim to be, the one thing you are taught is not to judge others-especially in faith. maybe that way of teaching came from rev. wrights speeches to criticize everybody and once again accuse them of being racist. just because some of us feel that you probably need some more experience and don’t want you to be president doesn’t make us racist. oh and by the way- why is it that every remark you make everyone has to clap as if there is a light that tells the audience to clap for you?? kind of like the way the media came back and kept repeating “WASN”T THAT SPEECH GREAT??” yet it still left us wondering why you stayed in that church for so long. We go to church to learn about God and of the many great things put here for us – not to teach hatred expecially racism.
Posted by: lola anderson | April 14, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
you also accused the people in pennsylvania of being racist, yet you never addressed that comment last night on the religious forum. if you are a man of God as you claim to be, the one thing you are taught is not to judge others-especially in faith. maybe that way of teaching came from rev. wrights speeches to criticize everybody and once again accuse them of being racist. just because some of us feel that you probably need some more experience and don’t want you to be president doesn’t make us racist. oh and by the way- why is it that every remark you make everyone has to clap as if there is a light that tells the audience to clap for you?? kind of like the way the media came back and kept repeating “WASN”T THAT SPEECH GREAT??” yet it still left us wondering why you stayed in that church for so long. We go to church to learn about God and of the many great things put here for us – not to teach hatred expecially racism.
Posted by: lola anderson | April 14, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
SHAME ON OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN WIFE!
Obama doesn’t deserve his US Senate seat — let alone the White House.
His whole career is based on divisive lies, and back stabbing people, with an incredible capacity for being absolutely uninspiring.
It took Barack Obama more than a year to repudiate his former pastor’s radical, racially-charged anti-American tirades, but when it came to denouncing Don Imus for his racial slurs against the Rutgers girls basketball team, it took Obama only a day to demand the shock jock be fired.
How about Obama’s relationship with another racist Reverend? This one is Rev. Meeks. Check him out!
If Obama thinks this about “working class people”, then what does he think about a man who was born in a manger, who had no formal education, was basically homeless and wondered around speaking to strangers?
NO OBAMA! We don’t need a president who looks down on us — we need a president who stands up for us.
HILLARY 2008!
Posted by: proudamerican2008 | April 14, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
How many times have you been to Obama’s church ? My guess none, yet you guys speak as if you know every word thats been spoken in all the years he’s attended the church. Also, have any of you noticed the broad coalition of all races that he has around him consulting him in his presidential bid, if he has been taught to be a racist he must have been a poor student.
Posted by: fool me once | April 14, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Hillary Clinton is a liar. Her and Bill are very similar. He can’t even lie correctly to cover up Hillary’s lies. If you really believe that she “didn’t remember correctly”, you are truly a sad human specimen. I’m actually an intelligent person and it’s obvious to me that she was lying. She didn’t lie once, it was 3 times. Obama’s statement about “some” people is getting blown out of proportion and what really matters is being forgotten about. Some people cling to religion. Some people make an average of 10 million dollars a year. Some people eat fish. Some people are gay. If what he said doesnt pertain to you, THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN OFFENDED ????? Hmmm..think about it (if you are actually capable of comprehending such a complicated thought)
Posted by: stash84 | April 14, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Hello People. We the middle class should be angry. Hopefully we are angry enough to take back our country by electing the right people.The War is sucking money out of our economy. We have an economy which is in shambles. Gas prices are the highest ever and causing chaos in other industries.The housing market is affecting also affecting many industries. Our jobs are being outsourced over seas. Food prices are soaring. States are cutting fund for education and social services.
Folks, let get mad to rebuild our America Society and forget about petty things,like why Obabama has to justify his name. For years to come, are we going to question Americans about their surnames?
Posted by: American Woman Who Happens To Be Black | April 14, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Hilary is a leech and so are her bitter supporters. Your bitter! Yes we will!
Posted by: Obama4life | April 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
For all you small town hicks here’s a definition of just one of the loving words Obama uttered antipathy: a strong dislike. you take it from there.
Posted by: roncraw | April 14, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
As you see he copies everything Hillary says. Shame on you!!! Come on Obama can’t you come up with anything yourself or do you have to copie everything Hillary says.
Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What Obama said was true.
People around here are bitter.
Bitter and jobless.
Damn bitter.
Frankly.
Posted by: Chuck | April 14, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
One, Obama said that people lose hope and become bitter.
When they become bitter, they turn to what they know.
They then fear outsiders and change. People turn angry and that becomes gun violence.
Others turn to religion.
What’s wrong with that?
What’s wrong is that he’s not White and he dared speak the truth.
People are bitter as hell around here and around here kids have turned to alcohol, herion, meth, guns and killings.
I live in a town of 160 people and I carry my gun.
A guy tried to run me off the road yesterday on purpose.
WHY?
Probably no reason.
He certainly had anger, frustration and hatred towards his fellow man.
10 to 1 he’s unemployed and bitter.
Hillary should get her head out of her derrier and stop being a Republican.
Posted by: Chuck | April 14, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Obama campaign and its surrogates were very shrewd to try and switch the conversation to whether or not people are bitter and want change in Washington.
campaign manager David Plouffe omits the portion of his remarks that are causing the most controversy. Specifically, Sen. Obama didn’t just say that people in small town America were “bitter.” Sen. Obama said that because they were bitter “they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
The Obama campaign also left out that he refers to americans who don’t vote for him as LUNCH PAIL FOLK. He lies as far as who his contributers are because they are under the wire.
Condesending and Patronizing. The latest polls suggest that this could be a nail in the coffin as to his electability. Put in the mix Rev Wright, jessie jackson, Al Sharpton, it doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Carol | April 14, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Obama campaign and its surrogates were very shrewd to try and switch the conversation to whether or not people are bitter and want change in Washington.
campaign manager David Plouffe omits the portion of his remarks that are causing the most controversy. Specifically, Sen. Obama didn’t just say that people in small town America were “bitter.” Sen. Obama said that because they were bitter “they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
The Obama campaign also left out that he refers to americans who don’t vote for him as LUNCH PAIL FOLK. He lies as far as who his contributers are because they are under the wire.
Condesending and Patronizing. The latest polls suggest that this could be a nail in the coffin as to his electability. Put in the mix Rev Wright, jessie jackson, Al Sharpton, it doesn’t look good.
Posted by: Carol | April 14, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Bill Clinton Flashback: “All These Economically Insecure White People…Are Scared To Death”
April 13, 2008 02:41 PM
As the rumination continues over Barack Obama’s comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic — uttered while he was running for president in 1991 — have now surfaced.
“The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death,” Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:
“You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I’m from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they’re gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they’ve been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country’s coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, ‘What happened to everybody’s job? What happened to everybody’s income? What … have … you … done … to … our … country?’”
For comparison’s sake, here is Obama’s statement, reported by Mayhill Fowler for Huffington Post’s OffTheBus:
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter). [...]
But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
What do you think — are they similar?
Posted by: Chuck | April 14, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Bill Clinton Flashback: “All These Economically Insecure White People…Are Scared To Death”
April 13, 2008 02:41 PM
As the rumination continues over Barack Obama’s comments about economically-depressed small town voters, statements made by Bill Clinton on the same topic — uttered while he was running for president in 1991 — have now surfaced.
“The reason (George H. W. Bush’s tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death,” Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:
“You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I’m from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they’re gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they’ve been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country’s coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, ‘What happened to everybody’s job? What happened to everybody’s income? What … have … you … done … to … our … country?’”
For comparison’s sake, here is Obama’s statement, reported by Mayhill Fowler for Huffington Post’s OffTheBus:
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism (laughter). [...]
But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
What do you think — are they similar?
Posted by: Chuck | April 14, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
These opportunistic Obama haters are rednecks who wouldn’t have voted for a black man anyway.
That’s why they twist and take his comments personally and blow this out of proportion.
Most in small towns feel fine with it and know what sort of people get so offended with such a petty little thing,too.
Posted by: mtt | April 15, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
I guess Obama clings to hateful spiritual guidance from Wright because he is bitter. He looks down to Americans becase he thinks being a good writer is enough to be president
Posted by: libre | April 15, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Just by reading the comments of Obama’s supporters you can tell he is divisive and they are resentful we do not need an administration full of hatred and resenment that looks down on regular Americans. Obama is Elitist, a snub ad unelectable
Posted by: libre | April 15, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
It can’t get any better than this!
Obama and his supporters are so liberal that they don’t understand what is wrong about Wright, and about the “bitter … antipathy (hate)” tirade.
So his Democrat primary numbers don’t move, but he’s unelectable in the general election. He’ll get his 40-45% in the general, and lose every ‘big’ state except possibly Illinois in the landslide. And the best part will be that he and his followers will have absolutely no idea why…
Posted by: couldntgetbetter | April 15, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
There are many bitter people . They are bitter and mad as hell. This government has sold us out! Obama was right and sometimes America can’t handle the true. Hillary and McCain will say anything to be President. Hillary lie about being under fire then lie about the lie. She voted for a bill thatshe wanted to fail. She was the only Senator that she said was trick in signing the bill for war. Hillary stated that she though it was for more inspectos. WHERE IS ALL HER EXPERINCE????
Posted by: Tyrone Harvey | April 15, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Obama is a hypocrite when he mentions that Hillary is “taking money from lobbyist”. What about the lobbyist money he has taken from energy and pharmeceutical companies? Edwards brought this up during a debate. He is the candidate who has taken the most from pharmaceutical companies. What about the top CEO’s from EXELON who donated to his presidential campaign. I see he didn’t have a problem voting for Cheney’s 2005 energy bill, which gave billions in subsidies to the nuclear energy. Obama conveniently stopped taking PAC money when he decided to run for president as a political ploy.
Although the biased media interpreted his mocking of Hillary by calling her “Annie Oakley” as “on the offensive”, it came across as juvenile and unpresidential.
Posted by: Ann | April 15, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. This is all smoke the Second Amendment has to to with making sure that the goverment does not have all the guns for if they do they will kick in doors even more often than they do now. I am bitter that my fellow Americans don’t value their rights. I will still vote for Obama he is smart enought to learn.
Posted by: Jon Cox | April 16, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
When is 30 to 14 a bad thing? Obama has 30 win Hillary 14
Posted by: Tyrone Harvey | April 21, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm