Obama on Clinton: ‘She’s Got the Kitchen Sink Flying’
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama, trekking across Pennsylvania aboard the Georgia 300 train, used his whistlestops to cast Sen. Hillary Clinton as a typical Washington insider who’s throwing the kitchen sink at him.
"She’s resorted to what’s called ‘kitchen sink’ strategies. She’s got the kitchen sink flying, and the china flying, and the, you know, the buffet is coming at me," Obama said at a stop in Downingtown.
Obama quickly added that he is tough enough to withstand this kind of politics, refuting a criticism that some have made that because of his inability to withstand such attacks he would be a weaker nominee for the party when running against the Republicans.
"I come from Chicago," he said. "I know politics is hard, you know, it’s not for the faint of heart. I understand that."
Obama repeatedly tried to make the case that the kitchen sink strategy takes away from a focus on the issues.
"These petty, trivial slash and burn, back and forth, tit for tat politics so that we no longer talk about the things that the American people care about, that may be good for the television ratings, but it’s not good for you," he said.
The race in Pennsylvania leading up to the crucial primary on April 22 has not been a smooth one for Obama. The primary is coming in the immediate aftermath of controversial comments he made at a San Francisco fundraiser that small-town Pennsylvanians are "bitter" and "cling" to guns and religion. Senators Clinton and John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee, both jumped on his comments, criticizing him for being elitist and eliciting a nasty back-and-forth for the last week.
"You’ve been watching this campaign for a couple weeks, at least here in Pennsylvania," Obama said. "And let’s face it, it’s not pretty."
Just four days before the primary, Obama rolled though multiple cities and stopped at four stations to plug his message.
"Get on board the change train," he called to Parkesburg residents while pulling the whistle as the train rolled out of their station.
The Georgia 300 train that is carrying Obama across Pennsylvania has also hosted presidents Carter, George H.W. Bush … and Bill Clinton.
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Posted by: Terry | April 19, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Hey, heads up both Obama and ABC News -
It’s Downington, PA not Downingtown !!
But then, who excpects an Obama report to be correct.
Sieg Heil – Yes we can!!
Posted by: Arkietwo | April 19, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I am on the Change Train. Go Georgia 300 Train. I am on it.. People get ready.
Posted by: jt | April 19, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Will we ever be rid of the Clintons? They are like a bad rash.
Posted by: DMR | April 19, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I think the train is such a cool idea!!!
Great idea Obama!!
Posted by: Debbie | April 19, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Hey Terry – Obama and ABC news spelled Downingtown correctly. I live here, I was at the rally, I should know. Who’s the idiot now? Obama was fabulous today.
Posted by: Babs | April 19, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Clinton supporters
The DNC has ignored your will. McCain stands up for you. Chose McCain. He’s real change.
NoObama YesMcCain
Posted by: Republican | April 19, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
I have to add — I have all due respects to my comment to Curtis Mayfield for my remark “people get ready” and will add also his words “and thank the Lord”.
Posted by: jt | April 19, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Ahhhhhhhhh…… Poor baby ‘bama
Posted by: KDH55 | April 19, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Obama a bully, what a laugh. I don’t see any bully other that the Clinton machine.
Posted by: lulu | April 19, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Let me guess….the last stop on the “Change Train” puts you on McCain’s “Straight Talk Express”, right? Hilarious. A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain. Please don’t make PA vote for McCain in November.
Posted by: PGHPAVOTER | April 19, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
When Obama is dripping with sarcasm, brushing himself off, being a hypocrit, stuttering over questions about his relationships, etc., does he remind you of someone else?
I don’t find Obama to be presidential material, but then again I never thought Bush would be re-elected.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 19, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
I wish Obama wouldn’t define his campaign by what Sen. Clinton said. Just tell the voters about his plans and ignore Hillary. Don’t whine. It’s not becoming to such a smart guy. MoveOn.org should butt out and stop trying to influence this election. Voters should decide for themselves and follow no one and no organization blindly. Undecided voter
Posted by: Vivi | April 19, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
he can get on the train people will come take a look but he is still not going to win PA.
Posted by: Bishop | April 19, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
obama is a cry baby
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Im bored to hear obama all day
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
not going to happen more women for hillary you will see
Posted by: Bishop | April 19, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Obama the most unpatriotic person I have ever
heard on national TV!
Posted by: turkey | April 19, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Obama up to is usual tricks
Propaganda and lies, he doesn’t seem to know to much else.
Poor Poor Obama
Posted by: sharon | April 19, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
I think Hillary will win Pa. It’s a long shot for Obama. But in the long run Obama will be the nominee. I will vote for either one in the GE. No more republicans for me. They’ve done enough damage.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
So where was Mr. Obama on Sept. 11?
Posted by: rufus | April 19, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Obama up to is usual tricks
Propaganda and lies, he doesn’t seem to know to much else.
Poor Poor Obama
Posted by: girl | April 19, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Obama is a frustrating monster dressed in a good sheep costume
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Obama is a traitor for refusing to answer
questions of authorities, associating with terrorists,
giving away military strategy, not
wearing a lapel pin and damaging our entire
election process…. for starters…
Posted by: rocko | April 19, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
You mean hillary hasn’t manufactured another Obama scandal yet?
I’m surprised….hurry hillary, time is running out for you.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Frankly, Obama is not qualified to be much
more than a legal assistant…
Posted by: psychiatrist | April 19, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Obama is a big arrogant monster with horns and bunny ears
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Obama, the big talking bird flipper when in front of his cultists. In response to a question becomes superwimp.
Rezko? Sinclair? Young? Obama/Ayres Woods foundation grants to Arabs?
He ain’t seen nothing yet.
Posted by: geevill | April 19, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Obama:
They are asking me important questions.
That is so unfair!!!
Posted by: ruth | April 19, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Rocko what the heck are you talking about. How did he damage our election process. You give 1 person way too much credit. If he has that much power than he should be our next president.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Real leaders do not put down other people
and answer questions when they are asked.
Posted by: xyz@yahoo.com | April 19, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Real leaders do not put down other people
and answer questions when they are asked.
Posted by: xyz@yahoo.com | April 19, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Obama is a frustrating monster dressed in a good cheap costume
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
All true proud white women will vote for hillary in pennsylvania on tuesday. you go girl!
Posted by: Susan | April 19, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
If you want a rich ol codger who has trouble remembering facts, but with a reputation for flying off the handle and hurling insults, vote McCain.
Posted by: Javalation | April 19, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Obama detroys usa, open your eyes
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Obama is a frustrating monster dressed in a good cheap costume
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Would a canidate give another canidate the finger on national TV. Give me a break. I saw the video. Ignorant people will see what they want to see.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Yeah, Obama — it’s distracting from the issues — except, of course, when you do it. Then it’s appropriate.
What a whiny crybaby. What a hypocrite you are.
Posted by: Julie | April 19, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Obama is the only candidate required to wear a lapel pin.
Obama is the only candidate required to take responsibility for all the people he knows, and for everything they say.
Obama has to answer for how everyone feels and for what they think.
The standards are always different. That’s fair.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Sounds like he would like to keep her in the kitchen. How anti woman can you be?
Posted by: bill | April 19, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Obama doesn’t want to debate anymore, he just wants to campaign in NC. He is afraid of another poor performance
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Obama is a frustrating monster dressed in a good cheap costume
Posted by: belly | April 19, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
No belly, its assinine to continue asking stupid questions….what’s next?
What does your third grade teacher think?
When will all the catholics leave the catholic church since they are filled with pedophiles?
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
You racist afraid of a blackman idiots are sure coming out of the wood work aren’t you ! Like a bunch of brainless parrots repeating the Clinton and Hannity lies and fabrications , what a pathetic lot ! Rather than an honest and above board man who is half black , a man who is for the working class , for the people and is not a political whore for the lobbyists and corporations and special interest groups and a man who refuses to practice gutter and low road politics against his opponent , better a confirmed liar and politician who is up for sale to the corporations, lobbyists and special interest groups and someone who operates at a sewer rat level with Republican style dirty and shameless politics and even endorsing the opposition party candidate over the opposition in her own party ! Better Rambo Clinton ! You are the same mentally challenged bricks who voted for a silver spoon fed dumb as a box of rocks white man from Texas who never even mastered basic English.
Posted by: John Klein | April 19, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
I don’t know omentum, I’m starting to wonder about some of these folks
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Sounds like somebody’s jea-lous!
lol
Rev Wright has been preaching for over 30 yrs, but he must retire in the projects. He doesn’t deserve anything more.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Obama will win the presidentcy the small
talk does not matter
Posted by: daniel | April 19, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Lets not speak of the 10 mill line of credit attached to the Rev Wright new home. Oh how he hates whitey especially the rich one that are evil but yet the first chance he gets he mixes with them.
Obama is no different than his pastor another black man just dying to move up the ranks of power in order to live differently than the average black person, these are the same people on attain power quickly forget where they came from.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Jack, Clinton and McCain are worth a whole lot more than Obama, so what’s your point. And who cares where is pastor lives.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Now all blacks cry racism?
lol No, blacks can now identify racism. Its not fake, its real. When black people are held to a different standard, its called racism.
Unless of course in changing the rules you have also changed the definition.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Don’t you feel its hypocritical for a black man to condemn the lifestyles of the white rich and famous daily when preaching to the average black person, but the first chance he gets he moves into a area where he can become neighbors with the same white he called evil?
Well blacks must be very gullible to fall into that trap, to buy that hook line and sinker and still go and give their hard earn dollars to support Wrights wealthy life style.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
If Obama is a hypocrite so is McCain. McCain had different views before and after he decided to run for president.
Posted by: Moshe | April 19, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Blacks are getting advantage because of the so called word ‘racism’. No one can talk bad about Blacks as they will be termed racists but Blacks can talk all kind of trash about White because they are suffering from racism.
Therefore, if someone says Obama is where he is because he is black is 100% true.
Get real you radical left minded Obama maniacs.
Posted by: Paul | April 19, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I meant that the Clintons and McCain have made a lot more money than Obama.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
That is so true even the media has to handle Obama with kid glove just so they are not accused of picking on a black candidate, that is why he has gotten such a free pass.
If he was white the Rezko, Ayres, Flag Pin and every other issue would of been hot news, he would of probably dropped out of the race by now.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Will you please stop with the flag pin. Do you wear one. Who really cares about this. It’s a nonissue
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Paul, its a two-way street.
But if you look at this campaign, its been one-way.
hillary has said something about being a woman at almost every step of the way.
Obama has not said a word about being a black man. Other than he knows he is one. But I believe everyone already knows that.
That’s a double standard.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
You guys posting tings here and callin Obama names why are so racists? The man is a patriot and why should some of you provide the name of bin Laden unless some of you are more evil than evil itself. There is no proof that hes bin Laden, there is no proof that he is unpatriotic.
You have no proof that the rest of the other candidates will lead America from this cesspit. Mot of the whole world hates the USA.Because most people think like those who post here. Very ignorant. Igorance is a curse and you walking with curses.
Now that kind of ignorance in your posting is the same stupid cause of why Bush is in Washington, the same cause of the USA going to war, the same cause why over 4000 body bags have been coming from Iraq to weeping and grieving famililies.
Remember seeing body bags is not a far thing from all you who post bigotic and racist remarks here about Barack Obama. Look in the mirror and what goes around comes around. That is the law. What ever bad and racist hateful remarks you make about Obama because of his race, it will come right back to you and bite in te nose. Your time is coming and you will reap as you sow.
Keep on ridiculing Obama with your hateful words and your payment is coming to you one of this days. Even God said that in the Bible, Whatever you sow you will reap..” and you will pay with your hateful words.
Go President Barack Obama…2008.
Posted by: Hubert Temba | April 19, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Rev Wright was on LBJs medical staff….but he’s a racist.
Right!
Take a minute to digest it all….he has been preaching against the system. Not all white people are racist. That we know.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
One thing for sure we know McCain is for change as he has changed his opinions drastically in the last five years – almost always for the worst though. I used to like the guy – now I see him as a flip-flopping liar.
Posted by: Brian | April 19, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I don’t trust McCain’s temper. He and Hillary are friends and their debates would be civil. But I bet you would see McCain’s temper flair if he was in a debate with Obama. And that would turn a lot of people off.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
sean hannity talks about Rev Wright EVERY DAY. And there is no exaggeration in that statement.
sean hannity is obsessed with Barack Obama, and he calls him a liar with every manufactured scandal.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
SJ, or else you could be an ex pres that gets paid hundreds of thousands to give speeches
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Hannity is correct to question Obama, most of you posting on here about Obama don’t even know anything about him, he could be the biggest failure waiting to happen to America and you all are not interested in knowing either.
Obama needs to be questioned daily until people are convinced that he has nothing in the closet waiting to spring out, he is not running for a job in a tea shop the man is running for POTUS, so yes ask him daily who, what and where he is on everything.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Obama is getting worried that he might lose PA bigtime, so he’s taking a gamble and really going negative now. He has also been busted for not knowing what the heck he is talking about when working without a net, as evidenced by the debate Wed. night. So….once again, he is deflecting away from himself by accusing Hillary of being negative. He really is very good at this strategy, but I think the finger thing was a little over the top. I don’t think even Karl Rove would have suggested that of Bush!
Posted by: dwc | April 19, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Hillary needs to drop out. If not after PA, then surely after NC & IN. Obama will absolutely destroy mc-more-war. People will begin to realize that John Murtha is right when he says the White House is no place for an OLD MAN. Obama is the right person for the right time. He can begin to clean up the mess left by the bush-league. Obama Yes We Can!
Posted by: pt | April 19, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Hubert T I agreed with you 100%.
There is no proof that Obama is weak. If you live in Chicago you are no weak. Imagine Hillary Clinton or Mccain living in Chicago. That would really polish their styles and not rely on kitchen sing politics of throwing china and tupperwhere or there instead of showing up how to end the goddamn deaths in Iraq. Is there anything you bligger can think about instead of saying that Obama is Hussein or Obama is that. If he is bin Laden why is the secret service or CIA or American arms going after him them. You guy who think like that are actually thinking with your biles instead of something called a brain.
Read the Bible or something. And maybe read about the life and story and life of Osama bin Laden himself. Instead of spending your time bowling go on the internet and google about the name Hussein. Google about Saddam Hussein. Google about Bib Laden maybe you will see some light. You are seeig only darkness and ignorance right.
Ignorance is a curse and that is your maquarading fashing like sesame street.
Read read and drive away that demonic dark ignorance which most of bloggers here are posting. It is a shame that some US citizens think the way you are. No wonder the US is engaged in a stupid war, because many voters voters for the wrong people in Washington and body bags keep on coming fom the war which Clinton and McCain support.
Look in the mirror before you condemn or call Barack Obama names. He came from Harvard and instead of working for the corrup-oriented Wall-Mart, like the arrogant hippocritical Hillary Clinton, worked in community activities in Chicago.
Think properly. Save America by changing from your hateful racist thinking. That will save you from the hateful eyes of other Americans and the rest of the rightful thinking world.
Vote for Barack Obama 2008. Go Obama.
Posted by: Hugh Johnson | April 19, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
So being paid by companies or individual to give speeches is a crime? It’s not illegal money is it? Clinton has traveled the world for speaking events so why should the man do that for nothing?
Rudy does it giving crime advice to countries, he went to the Caribbean and was paid well to talk to those people so what is wrong in that?
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
SJ, you think they know nothing about him? The man has been in the Illinois legislature and the US Senate….
you think they don’t know anything about him???
All I can say to that….how stupid.
hannity is attempting to create issues, issues that amount to nothing. But he wants you to believe there is something there. But you think Obama is in the Senate and they know nothing about him. whewwwww how naive is that
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
lol omentum, you got that right.
poor sean
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Someone should ask sean hannity about hal turner.
sean doesn’t want to discuss hal turner.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Let me also add Sharpton and Rev. King son also did it last October, they were paid to attend an event on a island in the Caribbean.
So get your facts in line most of these guys do it and are paid very well in US dollars to speak to people.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Believe me, Hannity and Limbaugh are not as stupid as they appear. Their goal is to get their un-educated listeners fired up with their mindless dribble. After all they know that this country elected bush/cheney twice, so they know there are plenty of idiots out there. Obama 2008!!!
Posted by: pt | April 19, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I can only listen to Hannity for a few minutes. He sprews his hate against the dems. And yet he judges Rev Wright
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
If after 23 debates Obama still does not have his message out well god help us he must really be clueless.
I already heard all that he is going to do for American, now I want to learn about him and if he cant give his life story or is defensive about it, that then raises a question as to why.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
All aboard the change train. My thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Obama as he travels through Pennsylvania. I am so proud to be an American. OBAMA 08′
Obama 08′…Obama 08′…..Obama 08′
Posted by: voice of reason | April 19, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I’m still waiting for the Ayers story….
Exactly what IS the story?
They teach at the same University. Somebody had to hire Ayers, why aren’t they talking to those people? He’s teaching impressionable 18 yr olds….is he teaching them how to make bombs? No one is concerned about that, they’re concerned because Ayers and Obama sat on the same board and they are ‘friendly’. Ayers donated $200 to Obama when he ran for the Illinois state legislature back in 1996.
Obama is not permitted to know people. If he knows them, then he must answer to what they think and feel.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
We all were very content when the media was digging through G.W army records and his life, so what is the big deal now with Obama?
What is it that is so different is he not running for president also, so why should Americans not know who exactly he is or what he did before he got into politics?
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I remember growing up in South Africa during the apartheid years.The distortions
and untruths about Obama remind me of a people that out of fear,greed,selfishness and total disregard or respect towards its
fellow citzens–went to great length to maintain the comforts of the status quo.The pettyness of defining patriotism by whether one chooses to wear a piece of
metal(flag pin)or not is idiotic and mind
boggling.Discussing the issues at hand and attending to the needy is more important than a flag pin. My dear fellow humans.I am saddened that in present day USA the land of the so called free and champions of the human race that we are so quick to be judgmental and callous towards one another.Are we not as a rudderless ship that is tossed to and fro by cleverly divisive people.Are we not as a people that fail to say we are sorry for centuries of hate born upon the less fortunate especially upon people who were abused by the so called righteous right.Why are we afraid of a man who promises to gather people of all races and cultures so that we may heal the deep seated issues of race–of greed—of abuse—of disrespect for the nations of the world—the lies of George Bush and his cronies –the lies of the old establishment. I cannot equate Obama to Nelson Mandela in all respects but I do see a similarity between the two—
-a man of courage—wisdom–forgiving—PATIENCE–kindness–the atributes of a leader.
Posted by: Derek | April 19, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
There is nothing with the Ayers story. I don’t even know why it’s revelant.
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I think all these folks that think that our Senators and Congressman know nothing about Obama, they’re crazy.
The man has been vetted a few times over. But they are backing him, and they wouldn’t do that if they knew nothing about him.
Do you really think Casey knows nothing about Obama?? Get real folks. They know this man. They knew about Rev Wright, they knew about Ayers, they knew his entire life story.
clinton fatigue has set in.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
OH please Obama is no Nelson Mandela, what nonsense you speaking Derek, geez next thing you will say is Obama is a carbon copy of MLK.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Derek AMEN and God Bless you!
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
see SJ….now Derek already said he can’t equate Obama to Mandela.
I wonder if some of you really know how to read. Or is it that you just see what you want to see?
I’m inclined to believe its the latter.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Maybe you need to learn to read my friend this is what he said!!!
I cannot equate Obama to Nelson Mandela in all respects but I do see a similarity between the two
Am by no means dumb, the only similarity that Obama has with Mandela is that they are both black and nothing more.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I agree with you omentum…good post
Posted by: maryland | April 19, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Obama sounds like a little kid. “Teacher, she’s picking on me!” Give me a break…he just got the treatment from the national media that he should get…close scrutiny. He is the one who has made character, judgement, and rhetoric central issues in this campaign. Now, he is going to be under closer scrutiny for all three. Live with it…
Posted by: Art | April 19, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Mandela was from a royal family in case you did not know, his mentor or the person that influenced his life was Mahatma Gandhi.
Mandela struggle was for both Indians and Africans so exactly where does Obama seem similar to Mandela?
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
It’s Obama’s time Hillary Clinton needs to stop and soon or else she will ruin her own political future as strong and effective stateswoman. If she keeps this up she will go down in history as a lying, desperate and devisive woman. She needs to give it up and soon. She’s not gonna win the nomination. I think Pennslyvia will go Obama. In any case, it will be very close and that will end it for the Clintons.
Posted by: Renee | April 19, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
ABC has been the only network with enough courage to even try to vet Obama and his credentials for the world’s most powerful job. If Obama’s name is on the ticket, the next name on the ticket must be Clinton, or this lifelong Democrat votes for McCain. How are the men and women of the military supposed to salute Obama as Commander in Chief when all of his closest friends, advisors, even his wife hate America? If you knew anyone who died in 9/11 (I did), it pierces the heart to hear Obama’s closest spiritual advisor say America “deserved” 9/11. To be friends with Ayers, Khalid, Rezko and a cadre of other criminals and radicals and no one is allowed to ask him about these things before he gets to the Oval Office is crazy. And how did he and Michelle go from poverty to Harvard and Princeton? Maybe as a result of the American dream? The dream that will elude many of those in our military who are out fighting (even wars we don’t like) to keep us all safe. If it wasn’t for them, we couldn’t sip wine at tony parties in Hyde Park and talk about how much we hate the country (not to mention the majority of her inhabitants). McCain’s team is waiting…biding its time…before swiftboating Obama out of the water. And you thought John Kerry had a political glass jaw.
Posted by: LonghornMama | April 19, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Obama is only responsible for HIS words, not Rev Wright’s words.
Obama is only responsible for HIS actions, not Ayers actions, and not even Rezko’s actions.
He already stated, when it came to Rezko, yes he was under investigation, but at that point, in 2005, nothing had been proven. He took the man at his word. Fault him for trusting.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
It does not matter if Hillary gets the nomination or not, she will always be a very powerful senator in the US politics.
Bill will still be a very influential man around the world. I know one thing if McCain beats Obama that is it for him, Obama will then fade into the political dustbin just like so many other politicians that have tired and failed.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
SJ, Obama, with his own actions and what he believes, is trying to work for ALL people, race and gender do not matter to him. And that is what he wishes for this country.
That is what I wish for this country.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
obama was on for a gun control board and wanted to be president of that board, dont think he will take your gun away, well annie oakley just got my vote, Hillary 08
Posted by: gerry | April 19, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
LA have you heard Obama say what he is willing to for race relations in the USA?
Has he said what he would do for blacks or minorities in the America.
Does Obama feel their is a racial issue in America, what are his views I have not heard them so how is he going to help ALL people?
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
SJ: I am from New York, I know New York. And Hillary Clinton is no New Yorker. I’m not surprised.
LA In Indiana: Are you kidding me right now? Someone is headed for the dustbin, we just disagree on who it is.
Obama’s light has just begun to shine.
Posted by: Renee | April 19, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Michelle said America is a evil place so what does that mean? That is love will if its love I don’t think I can understand that kind of love
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
SJ he has said….
we are not as divided as our politics suggest….
we all want the same things. Its as simple as that.
Because you’re white (or may be) doesn’t make your wants any different than mine. Just because you’re hispanic doesn’t make your wants any different than the next white person or black person. We ALL seek the same things in our life. What is so wrong with that? And why should some things be available only to some people?
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
SJ…I guess that would depend on your standing in the world.
Now if you ask a lot of people I know, yes, America is a mean and ugly country.
I think America can be mean sometimes. However, as a member of the military, I may not agree with you, but I’ll defend to my death your right to say it and express it.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Renee, I don’t believe Obama is headed for the dustbin.
I hope and pray Obama is the next President of the United States.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Go PA – Let’s put Obama over the top like Va, MD, DE and now it’s your chance. Please carry Obama over the finish line. Your neighbors in MD is counting on you to do your part. We need Obama in the White House because – he will involve the American people in the process. C-Span will be at the White House, when the Health Care roundtable is being discussed. We will see everything out in the open. With Hillary everything will be off limits – behind closed doors like she did before in 1995. We need a President who will be honest – Hillary tell too many lies -we cannot trust her judgement. Pa get aboard the train for change with Obama.
Posted by: Deborah | April 19, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
LA: That is life, there will always be those that have and those that do not, the strong and the weak.
Talk like that does not move me, that is good speak to win votes, telling the people what you feel they want to hear, but its not what any politician can deliver.
If as a black man he cannot say what he will do for his race,what he will change for them then he is a phony only using them to get into office.
MLK was not afraid to fight for his people or his cause, and he made no bones as to what he was fighting for. All these glowing words from Obama is just that words for votes.
I feel sorry for the black that are looking at him as a answers to their problems because if he does make it they will be very disappointed in the end.
Some black leaders around the world have turned out to be more detrimental to their own race than leaders of a different ethnicity, Obama has said nothing as regards to how he views race in America, so for me he will do nothing to improve it, then again check all of his financial supporters now who do you feel plays the tune for him to dance to.
Posted by: SJ | April 19, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Hey guys, don’t be afraid of President Obama. Sometimes it can be scary to be led out of the cave into the light. Your fear…it is delicious.
Posted by: JR | April 19, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
And I define ‘the company you keep’ as those individuals you interact with on a daily basis….they’re at your home almost every night for dinner.
Not someone you may see once or twice a month, or during different church events, not someone you consider an ‘aquaintance’.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
ruthmatters-Are we playing the Random Name Drop Game now…like Hillary did in the “debate” earlier this week with Hamas?
Posted by: JR | April 19, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
See SJ, that is where we disagree.
I don’t believe that black people, or white people for that matter, vote for a president for what they can do for them. We vote for him to treat us ALL as equals under the law.
Who is looking for special treatment? Who is looking for the government to do things for them. I know I’m not, I can do things for myself. People, of all races, are looking for a hand UP, not a hand OUT. There is a major difference.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
senile….hmmmmm, gerry you must be talking about john mccain.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
lol I watched the CNN ballot bowl too, he was outlining the differences between the two….was he wrong?
You hillary supporters can’t handle the truth.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
oh yes please vote obama, soon his black storm troopers will riot in every town, then once elected the storm troopers will go door to door takin your guns away and your kitchen sink, black and white.
Posted by: gerry | April 19, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
his black storm troopers??
Welcome to the USA, where racism is alive and well.
black storm troopers….give me a break.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
lets flip the switch….
lets address sean hannity and hal turner. Is there a story there? Or is it just brushed under the rug because he’s white?
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Obama’s associations with Farrahkan, Wright, Ayers, Auchi and Refko need to be fully vetted. He needs to deny the Larry Sincliar allegations and…we need to see what happens when his ex white girlfriend talks to the press which is on the works, her and some bimbo he had an affair with.
Posted by: Tory s | April 19, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
sj, here’s just one quote about what Obama feels are problems in the black community. all ya gotta do is google. … and not upset ABC…
Now here is Obama. “We’ve got to put more money in prevention,” he said. “It makes no sense for children to be going to the emergency room for treatable ailments like asthma. Twenty per cent of our patients who have chronic illnesses account for eighty per cent of the costs, so it’s absolutely critical that we invest in managing those with chronic illnesses like diabetes. If we hire a case manager to work with them to insure that they’re taking the proper treatments, then potentially we’re not going to have to spend thirty thousand dollars on a leg amputation.” A young man asked about health care for minorities. “Obesity and diabetes in minority communities are more severe,” Obama said, “so I think we need targeted programs, particularly to children in those communities, to make sure that they’ve got sound nutrition, that they have access to fruits and vegetables and not just Popeyes, and that they have decent spaces to play in instead of being cooped up in the house all day.”
Posted by: kravitz | April 19, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Obama sounded good initially but he’s now starting to sound very redundant and unrefreshing. I also can’t minimize in my mind all the associations he has that are negative and that he excuses away rather lamely. I think he’s in over his head and I don’t understand his rush to enter the presidency—the most responsible position anyone can hold in this country. What does he have against gaining experience and a solid understanding of foreign policy, etc., before he runs for office??? I am suspicious of his urgency.
Posted by: ALM | April 19, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
LA in Indiana
Obama’s church has ties to Farrakhan far beyond just the Million Man March. Any ties his church has automatically ties him to them as well, because attending a church is OPTIONAL, and which one you attend is a CHOICE. He does not have to be there. If he feels as strongly as he SAYS he does about things his best-beloved “spiritual advisor” has said, then he should be out of that church. He is not showing any wisdom or courage (because that is what it takes to make a stand) whatsoever.
Posted by: ALM | April 19, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
whew these stories and manufactured scandals will just keep coming. You can tell the folks that don’t want him to be president, they’re the ones who will come out with all the sensational bs stories.
Keep trying folks, I’m sure you’ll find something to ruin his reputation. And when you find something that sticks, watch….the story then goes away quietly, just as quickly as it came out.
lol transparent bs
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
oh give me a break ALM.
Come back and talk to me when every catholic has walked out of the church due to the pedophile scandals.
I haven’t seen them walk….why are they staying???
The church, any and all churches are more than just the pastor. If it works for just one, it works for all. Lets not allow a double standard lay on one person.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
La in Indiana ok break given, dont think because you live in the usa it cant happen here, hey enjoy your freedom to vote the way you wish, and have a nice day, our votes dont really count anyway. its good to be out of the cave. I guess obama is the bestest thing he boosts our morale he tell the truth (LOL) and he not one bit bitter, Hillary 08
Posted by: gerry | April 19, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
gerry…every 4 yrs politicians make promises.
Look what George Bush got us….2 wars and over 4K dead in Iraq. No WMDs but George is STILL in office.
Reagan did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it. If they didn’t promise something, you would think there was something wrong with them.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
I always thought he was a train wreck waiting to happen…
Posted by: belle | April 19, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Correct derek. I don’t think I have seen ANY politician torn down as much as Obama.
This is beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Well, I’m out for the evening….y’all hillary supporters, enjoy tearing down Obama.
And remember….don’t sweat the petty stuff. Or is that don’t pet the sweaty stuff. ==chuckle==
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 19, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
all those folks that call him a terrorists, you need to stop it. he not hundred percent black. he is 50/50 he also fifty percent white. it is not important to wear a pin. what that mean.
the ones that wear the pins still send our men and women on a sucide in iraq.
GOD BLESS OUR SOLIDERS PROTECT THEM FROM SUCIDE ROAD BOMBS.
Posted by: luvnpeace | April 20, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Barack needs to define his demographic.
“She’s got the kitchen sink flying, and the china flying, and the, you know, the buffet is coming at me….”
The kitchen sink is fine, but he ought to change the china into maybe “melamine” and the buffet into something far more homey, maybe “bread pudding.”
Again, we have the arugula problem.
Posted by: Sophie22 | April 20, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
At this point Pennsylvanians are mere pawns in the Clinton game.
She appears at rallies but is really only talking to campaign donors and super delegates.
Donors are being asked to throw good money after bad. She must demonstrate that she “did everything possible” to win… prior to finding someone else to blame… or donor may not honor their pledges… or (gasp) want their money back? Then who will pat campaign debts?
Super delegates: Convince them somehow there will still be be a price to pay for desertion! Either you are with them or against them. There once was a plausible fear of retribution for those that turned against the Clintons.
No one is buying it anymore. Bill Clinton hasn’t got the clout… and Hillary is not going to be president.
The door is closed, the butter is getting hard, the jello is jiggling, and Hillary has jumped an entire aquarium.
Posted by: Gorgon '08 | April 20, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
and I hope that Pennsylvanians will throw a big ole pumpkin pie right in his face since he’s made fun of them and called them names.
Posted by: Mark | April 20, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
I actually thought Obama held his own during the first half of the debate. It just went downhill for him when they started talking about the issues. Obama’s response on taxes showed he does not even grasp the basic principles of economics – which would be very useful at this point for this country. And the answer on gun ban…he seemed ill-prepared – like he did not even do his homework. I’m afraid he’s not looking very competent on real issues.
I heard on CNN yesterday that from this point on he’ll just be campaigning and there’d be no more debates. It’s understandable…
Posted by: Terry | April 20, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
I think it’s comical how the democrats and some of you on here fight amongst yourselves.
My guess is very few if any of you voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004. It’s not each other you need to convince: it’s the folks who voted for the current mess. My only hope is that these people have: 1. Come to their senses, 2. Have enough shame to not vote this time, or 3. Decide which candidate they think is the best and vote for the opposite.
Posted by: MIguy | April 20, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
OBAMA
You have lost the ability to have civil discourse. You may be trying to inspire a revolution but you have ceased winning hearts and minds.
Hillary or McCain 2008
Posted by: Jackie | April 20, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
I was not only in philly (35,000 in attendance! take THAT Nutter) to see Obama..I went to see him in Downingtown…one word
awesome!!
and I was looking at the next president of the United States.
Posted by: Paige | April 20, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
It is incredulous that O has been able to escape the media’s real scrutiny. He got into the race with audacity, and he ran on the soundbites of changing the way Washington works by bringing unity and hope. What audacity! We are supposed to believe that he did not know the rantings and cursings of his 20-year minister and spiritual advisor. We are supposed to believe that he did not have close ties in his 17-year relationship with Rezko and associates, when there were fundraisers in his home, and Rezko, Obama, and their wives spent time at Rezko’s place on Lake Geneva in Wisconsin. Even the purchase of his home with help from Rezko and his wife escapes real attention by the news media. The reportings by the newspapers in Chicago paint a vision of something closer than casul. An Obama aide stated that, despite a witness testimony that Obama and his wife attended a party at the Resko mansion when Auchi was honored, Obama and Michelle “could not recall” such attendance or meeting Auchi. What audacity. He has been given so many passes by the national networks, that he acts like an honest bystander to such dishonest peopld.
He doesn’t quite seem to know it, but he lives in a glass house. He hopes to wrap up the nomination with Pennsylvania, before more dirt comes crashing down on him. Then it will be too late to hurt him. He can dish it out on Hillary, but he will not escape the Republican machine. He touts himself as an honest, clean politician with integrity and the ability to bring people together. What a joke!
Posted by: georgia | April 20, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
bill and hillary just turned the page in the clinton/rove handbook….
Its time for a new manufactured scandal against Obama. And they need to go as low as possible to find something that really sticks.
Obama has messed up the clintons plan to return to the white house.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 20, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
One think clinton hasn’t done is use racial stereotypes.
Throwing the kitchen sink at you, the china at you?
Gender stereotypes.
Posted by: jeo | April 20, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
hillary clinton is a very confused person. first she was confused in her voting for the war in the middle east saying she wouldn’t have done now, then confused about her nafta position and it’s still difficult to understand what she would put forth on this issue today let alone tomorrow. thirdly and even more obviously she is confused about the difference between being tough and nasty.
Posted by: saint peter II | April 21, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Women united will elect Hillary. Now, that’s real change and change we can live with. Put the smart woman in to clean up this mess. Let’s not have just another empty suit with cute meaningless slogans. For a real change in Women’s rights and human rights vote Hillary!
Posted by: AmazonTraveler | April 21, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Yeah, he knows politics are hard, he’s from Chicago. Funny his campaigns there were relatively easy…candidates dropped out etc. Why is it that Hillary is throwing the kitchen sink, when she is merely commenting on his newly discovered downfalls. People need to know the real Obama before it’s too late. The Republicans will drop the whole house on him in NOV, not just a kitchen sink!
Posted by: Darla | April 21, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I don’t know how to vote for in the run.
Posted by: samantha | September 19, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am