Apr 8, 2008 11:13pm

Obama Prepares Argument to Discard Public-Financing Principle

Despite his previous pledge to enter into the public financing system should he be the Democratic presidential nominee,* Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has recently been reluctant to re-commit to entering the system.

This reluctance has coincided with his primary, caucus, and fundraising successes. For that reluctance, Obama has been hammered as hypocritical by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., not to mention impartial observers.

Tonight at a fundraiser in Washington, D.C., at the National Museum of Women in the Arts — at a $2,300-per-person event for 200 people held before a $1,000-per-person reception for 350 people — Obama previewed his argument to justify this possible future discarding of a principle.

"We have created a parallel public financing system where the American people decide if they want to support a campaign they can get on the Internet and finance it, and they will have as much access and influence over the course and direction of our campaign that has traditionally been reserved for the wealthy and the powerful," Obama said.

Do you buy it?

-jpt

* UPDATE: The pledge I am referring to came last September in Obama’s answers to a questionnaire by the Midwest Democracy Network.

The question was: "If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?"

Obama checked: "Yes" and wrote:

"In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker, the esteemed Michael Dobbs, has given Mr. Obama two Pinnochios for the campaign’s attempt to claim this was not a pledge to enter into the public financing system. "Obama’s affirmative answer to the Midwest Democracy Network seems unequivocal," Dobbs writes. "Now that Obama is raising $1 million a day, his enthusiasm for public financing appears to have waned."

User Comments

I think you would be safe to throw every pledge that Obama has ever given right out the window….Perhaps this is like his Senate records…”lost”…or like the survey with his positions…he never saw it…or like his time in church…I never heard it…or like his gun control position…depends on the state…or like his Iraq war position…a fairytale>

Posted by: Jackie | April 8, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Of course I buy it.
His own public financing system is a sensational historical achievement, and a motor of the campaign’s strength and its donaters’ enthusiasm and dedication.
1,300,000 people or more donating to a campaign would for any politician be a fair and strong reason to break any earlier commitment to public financing.
McCain will protest pro forma, but above all he’d wish he had that many people dedicated to strenghtening his candidacy. He’ll understand Obama, but he will probably not say so.
Yes, Obama is writing political history in MANY respects these days.

Posted by: pool | April 8, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

It’d be nice if you give Obama’s withdrawal the same (pathetic, sniveling) restraint you showed McCain’s supposed “withdrawal” (talk to the FEC about it) from the primary public financing system. Too bad you won’t.

Posted by: Tom | April 8, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Of course I don’t buy it…It’s all about the money…and Obama will never keep his word.
Please remember that Obama is the one that solicited and insisted on the public financing pledge. He is a hypocrite.
If he was serious he would offer spending caps for everyone…so that these excessive amounts of money (while America slides into a recession) would be limited.
With the internet fundraising….an American president will only be chosen if they are photogenic and have the right public relations firm.
Dangerous precedent from the guy who wanted to offer us the “politics of hope”

Posted by: Jackie | April 8, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

If it were only the candidates campaigning, this might be a worthwhile question. But the same folks who swiftboated John Kerry are already preparing their attacks on Obama, and it would be suicide for his campaign (and for the Democratic party) to limit his spending. He will need every last cent to counter those attacks.

Posted by: tawanda | April 8, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

No, I don’t buy it. The man is a hypocrite.

Posted by: Rick Roberts | April 8, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

He said he cares about working class people but it seems he likes rich people more.

Posted by: crisis08 | April 8, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

i’m with tawanda. we need to remember how much money the republicans have outside of the actual mccain campaign. it would be irresponsible for him to buy into it now. i’m one of the 1,300,000 that has donated and i’m sure i’ll donate again before the general election.

Posted by: jeremy b | April 8, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

crisis08, do you have any idea what you’re talking about? over 1,300,000 people have donated. we aren’t rich. the average donation is $96.

Posted by: jeremy b | April 8, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

crisis08, Mark Penn, hill’s pollster advisor, represents that same oil company of which you speak. and it was the execs, not exxonmobil who gave her more than they gave obama, fer tha rekkerd.

Posted by: kravitz | April 8, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

They will try, would not you?
And yes the Big Oil will try to gain the influence of Obama by giving money, but he is a man of the people. It will not work.

Posted by: American9 | April 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Obama would say anything to get a vote.
He has constantly lied though his teeth about so much already, Why would he stop lying now.
He is worse than a tool.
He would use and abuse anyone to get power and money.
He has been involved with some pretty shady characters.
We know he had 250k of laundered money in his campaign that he dumped in charity. I am sure he has plenty more of that.
Anyone who would Lie on or about their best friends and family to the media, will stop at nothing to get what they want.
I think he stands for nothing, all the money he has collect to out do someone, and waste it on another AD or to further himself, when he insist he wants to fight world hunger, and feed the poor.
Of course that would have to be with someone else’s money, not a dime he can use for himself or on himself.
Hypocrite through and through

Posted by: seah | April 9, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

Hey, SOMEONE ELSE thinks obama is full of hypocrisy….or “contradictions”—–whichever you would like to use.
Do we REALLY want a Hypocritical President?
Imagine what that sort of thing would LOOK LIKE 4 years from now……ooooohhh…on second thought, DON’T.

Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | April 9, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

This is exactly the argument the republicans have been making for all these years.
Flip-Flopper.
Also ask him about his criticism of ‘outside-financing’ in Iowa that he now uses to his advantage.

Posted by: Joan | April 9, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Also, as if only small donors have funded his campaign.
I mean hasnt he taken a bunch of money from lobbyists and CEOs of big controversial firms and what-not?

Posted by: Joan | April 9, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

3 numbers my friend. 527. Obama (hopefully ) or who every the Democratic Nominee is will need that revenue to respond swiftly to the Republican 527 adds. McCain knows that with public financing Obama CAN strike back swiftly and sternly to any of those bogus 527 adds. Republicans bring it
on because unlike the Dukakis campaign and the Kerry Campaign with all due respect, WE WILL BE READY AND WILLING TO RESPOND!!!
OBAMA 08

Posted by: J P | April 9, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

I think you should ask him the following:
If a bunch of pro-lifers gave him money (say a million pro-lifers) would he change his policy towards abortion? If a bunch of people against affirmative action gave him money, would he change his position on affirmative action?

Posted by: Joan | April 9, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

To Joan,
Hell, it is said that those who do not know will say anything. It is a fact that like me only gave $50.00. Others have done so as well. It is obvious that you voted for that Dummy “W”. Or you just can’t come to deal with the fact that the American People are now ready to stand up for someone that will support their INTEREST.
If you love slavery, vote for the same old thing “McCain or Hillary”.

Posted by: American9 | April 9, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

“American9″: I do not agree with your insinuation that Hillary “is a vote for slavery”—-that is so wrong. That is disrespectful to both Bill AND Hillary Clinton, who have worked hard to level the playing field for Black Americans. That is a distasteful remark against Mrs. Clinton, in my book.

Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | April 9, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Hypocrite. Obama claiming he is a uniter after going to his church for 20 years, is like Farrakkan claiming he is a uniter.

Posted by: Peter | April 9, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

umm… I’m going to go ahead and say, No.
and can Hillary please win already?

Posted by: Brooke | April 9, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

This is about choice,and the systems, it since it is still legal,About 1.3million donors?he is redefining the system….Its all about change he has been saying all along,get everybody actively involved.

Posted by: val | April 9, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Great to be American, “Real Democrat”
You have the great blessing to have your opinion. But the truth is that while Bill was stating that he was helping to create jobs in America he and Hillary was putting in place NAFTA that will make the jobs he created go BYE BYE.
I did not have intercourse with that woman.
I did not create real jobs for those people.
I have not gone all over the world holding hands with George Bush Senior.

Posted by: American9 | April 9, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

The thought that the American people are considering putting our lives in his hands is downright scary.

Posted by: catherine in nm | April 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

What is public? this is just a proof,he got the masses on his side,whats your problem?

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

“val”: yeah, “everybody” gets actively involved……LOL…..they’ll be doing his job FOR HIM ! Maybe you young people have time to be “inspired” and “work for obama”, but we working people out here in America with our mortgages and children to raise and our 3 and 4 jobs just to make ends meet DO NOT HAVE TIME to “get actively involved for obama”. That’s a Dream World.

Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | April 9, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

HELLOooooo, American9: Newsflash: Bill Clinton is NOT running for President. You have to get out of the ’90′s and get into the Present, Hon.

Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | April 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Yeah right, all that money coming in from the executives, spouses, children, friends and other family members of oil industries and nuclear power producers and subprime loan lenders – you know, all the little people. So much for change, so much for new politics. I guess Obama’s idea of change is not public financing but rather bring in more and more money from more and more corporate donors . Whoever believed this guy would actually live up to his word and supposed convictions to make change in this Country has rocks in their head. He couldn’t follow through on his convictions he raised in his anti-war speech . He hasn’t shown us clean politics yet, only the same old dirty politics. When are people actually going to look at this guy’s record of spinelessness and sliding by on charisma and wake up before it’s too late. If you really believe Obama is about change then you should be disappointed in his total backtracking on the issue of public financing. He lies and says he doesn’t take money from the oil industry and subprime lenders, he has registered lobbyists on his staff in key positions just like the other two candidates do, one minute he says the NAFTA meeting didn’t happen and then he said it did but not the way people said it went- whatever. If you want the same old, same old then that’s what you’re going to get with Obama. If I’m going to vote the same old then I’m going to vote for the more experienced same old. What a joke. Like noone didn’t see this one coming. I hope McCain and the Republicans make him look like the hypocrite and liar he is.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Cathy,,
The only thing to Fear is Fear itself. Don’t let Hillary or the Republicans put fear in your HEART. Truth wil set you free and Protect you.
That is what Obama is preaching for you.

Posted by: American9 | April 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

Alpaig: ……don’t forget obama’s CHURCH who is UNDOUBTEDLY financially unding him—–that’s TAX-FREE, too.

Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | April 9, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

American9 Obama didn’t go around the world with George Sr. but just a couple weeks ago he was saying how he wants to bring us back to the foreign policy traditions of George Sr and Reagan. This is about the third time he’s mentioned Reagan in some positive capacity. So I wouldn’t count the hand-holding with George Sr. out yet?

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Yes We Will
“‘When all is said and done, more is said than done.’ We are drowning in words, many of which turn out to be lies we tell ourselves or others.” (p. 7)
“We are a verbal species, much given to the use of words to explain–and deceive. The worst deceptions, of course, are those we practice on ourselves. What we choose to believe is closely related to deeply felt needs . . . . This desire makes us vulnerable to the worst forms of self-deception and disillusionment, an indulgence of the hope that we have at last found the [ideal] person . . . . When, therefore, someone . . . says the words we so long to hear, it is not surprising that we might choose to ignore incongruent behaviors.” (pp. 10-11)
–Dr. Gordon Livingston, Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 9, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Tony, you are absolutely right. I see Elizabeth Edward’s has endorsed Clintons health care plan. Do you see anything on CNN or MSNBC about it , NO!

Posted by: Tina D | April 9, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Even before getting to the white house,he has already achieved some “change” he is promising,they way money are raised,this is a record,McCain is for the status quo,so dumb he got jealous and then try to spin it around,campaign finance redefined!!!!! I think Obama should scrap public finance system when he becomes the commander-in-chief.Get the masses to finance your campaign if you think you are worthy to be elected period.

Posted by: capt billly | April 9, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Real Fool
Wright point is valid.
If you are involved with the success of this nation enough and your heart is in the right place, (not a killer or warlord), and have heard the hold speech of Rev. Wright. (True believer of God.) You would say that Rev. Wright only spoke words of doing the right things as Americans, not attacking and killing other humans.
Some just don’t want to do the right things.
Their point and belief is more important than the truth and the obvious.
Liar, Liar pants on Fire

Posted by: American9 | April 9, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

i’ve said it before, and i’ll say it again, no matter who you support, 9 out of 10 of you come across as complete idiots on this blog. i really need to stop coming to abcnews… but google keeps routing me here! stop spitting out campaign rhetoric and start getting real. i’m an obama supporter and i’ll come right out and say he’s contradicting himself on this, even if he does have 1,300,000 donors. but, just like john mccain (who will probably take public financing because he can’t raise enough money… the same reason edwards “decided” to take public financing) and hillary clinton, obama thinks some principles are worth sacrificing to be able to become president and implement your principles. i’d rather see obama win playing some of the old political games and then be able to change the game than lose playing it straight and have everything stay exactly the same.

Posted by: zack | April 9, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Adams Mr.Hope and Change shouldn’t be thinking of just himself. I guess since he’s doing real well on the campaign funding end then I guess we don’t need change. Where’s the vision?
Mr. Hope and Change supposedly has vision and is thinking forward , not just of his own campaign and it’s abundance, no I thought he was talking about change for the future. I guess when it comes to the political arena Obama is just looking for change that benefits him or screw the future and future elections. So much for setting a course by being an example. It was so nice to see him today actually show up for the first time for a hearing in his Foreign Relations sub-committee stewardship. He could never show up before because he was too busy running for President. Too bad, that’s the place where he wouldv’e gotten his experience, perspective and knowledge in global affairs. But at least he got it on his resume. Just like at least he showed up for once so he get his Presidential looking camera time. What a joke.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Barrack Obama sounds,looks and acts presidential, McCain and hillary don’t.

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

val Why don’t you actually take the time to go on to the Center for Responsive Politics and see where Obama gets his money. No one is going to dispute Obama has done extremely well on a grassroots level but that’s not the only money that comes into his campaign.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Remember bob dole ? he was also a veteran,lost one of his arm, we all know how veterans who ran on being veterans fared in the general elections,McCain will go the same way too.

Posted by: DEM FOR LIFE> | April 9, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Well at least Obama made the sacrifice of not taking money from PACS and lobbyists. In the big scheme of money that comes into a political campaign, even when a candidate takes such money, that money taken in is an incredibly small portion in the big picture. So there’s not too much sacrifice there.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

alpaig , Well Obama is running on Change,the way washington is handled,lobbyists,out of touch system,he wants to unite the country,change and the hand the government to the people. Got it ?

Posted by: roy | April 9, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

It is amazing, how here, right now , you folks are following hillary twisting words and info.
Obama did NOT take money from the oil company, but from executives and employees. That is a difference.
I am typical white eldery woman. I WANT my very little money to be used for Obama to become a President. I do not see anybody to have a right to cancel this my little support.

Posted by: Linda, Florida | April 9, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Sam, you wrote: “…or they Voted for BUSH and would love to see this country go down the tubes as a communist nation.”
Actually you have that backwards. Sen. Obama’s advocacy is much closer to Communism with his calling for wealth redistribution, doing away with our ownership society and giving goverment more control over our lives.

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Obama used this pledge to win voters in Iowa and paint himself as the “progressive” candidate. He gained grassroots support and support on blogs because of this pledge. Am I buying it? Right along with that fabled bridge. He can’t even keep his campaign promises while he’s still campaigning.

Posted by: jb | April 9, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Sorry, Sam! I should have directed that to American9. My apologies.

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Irma,
Your post says it best, better than any post I’ve read in the last month. Obama is coming from a position of support by a wealthy liberal elite constituency, and the working class people are being excluded.
========================================Hillary, the only candidate standing up for the working class!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

WestCoastMessenger,we encouraged him,we the poor masses made him to use our money, it is still the public money with the public involvement,he got the public money public money through overwhelming support,you think its easy?

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

To Ed,
Maybe give Obama’s flip flop a chance, huh?

Posted by: Al | April 9, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am

Irma,
Where did your post go? You pointed out the disparity of funding by the wealthy liberal elite, versus the working class, and this got ripped out by the ABC censors? What the h— is going on?
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Is ABC news afraid of the facts?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Roy, you wrote: “…I see third world war comming…” Actually you are a few years too late. We are already in World War III.
1998 Kenya and Tanzania;
1999 Seattle (foiled);
2000 Yemen (USS Cole);
2001 New York, Washington DC, Western Pennsylvania;
2002 Tunisia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Yemen and Kenya;
2003 Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Indonesia and Turkey;
2004 Spain, Saudi Arabia, and Jakarta;
2005 England, Indonesia and Jordan;
2006 Egypt and Pakistan (foiled);
2007 Algeria and England/Scotland (foiled).

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Adams,
What poor masses? Are you talking about the east coast Ivy league crowd, the Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Heinz’s? Or are you talking about the West Coast Kos Mafia, the so-called liberal “intelligentsia”? Obama has received funding from a fraction of 1 per cent of the population. I’m good with the candidates taking the $3 I contribute via my taxes. What’s wrong with that approach? Let’s level the playing field for a change.
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Obama, the elite candidate from Harvard, backed by elites with money!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am

James Danley ,That is why we need change and hope,no more warmongers like bush,cheney and McCain.

Posted by: roy | April 9, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Adams,
By the way, what about the commitment he made that he is now positioning to uncommit on? People that break commitments are just pathetic.
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Obama wants out of his commitment!
Obama doesn’t want to be accountablie for his commitments!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

Hi Westcoast! Yeah, I noticed, luckily I remember what I said: What is up with Obama stating that (the people supporting him) “have as much access and influence over the course and direction of our campaign that has traditionally been reserved for the wealthy and the powerful.” When it’s the educated, wealthy, elites that are on his side and insult the working class. No wonder we don’t agree with them or Obama.

Posted by: irma | April 9, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

Irma,
Well said. The difficutlies in this race are coming from the elite, this time from the far left, attempting to position to get their interests met, once again leaving out the working class interests.
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Obama, of Harvard, does he represent the working class voters?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am

WestCoastMessenger,I enjoy the fact that my 10 dollar donation the campaign makes a big difference,you seem not to understand what this is all about,this is about change and hope,your 3dollar from your tax can be channeled towards healthcare,the big time donors who are the problem in washington are being silenced by my 10 dollar thats the benefit,giving the government back to the people.

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am

Adams,
Your $10 is being used to perpetrate the biggest con on the American people in all of history. Obama, the empty suit, an untested, unknown, inexperienced, fast-talking, guy who always has a ready excuse for everything he does, is going to use that $10 to make you believe he is a blank canvass on which you can paint your dreams no matter what they might be. We used to have revivalist preachers come around trying to perpetrate that same con on the poor country folks all the time. The beauty is that Obama has pulled it on a nation.
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Obama, the blank canvass!
Whatever you want Obama will give it to you!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 9, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

Roy, what we need is a president who understands that we are in the fight for the survival of Western Civilization and is committed to defeating the terrorists wherever they are — no matter how long it takes and no matter the cost.

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

WestCoastMessenger, What commitment?I said he got the public money in another hard way,getting people involved also,I mean the poor masses,thereby saving the government public finace,McCain can’t be able to do that,thats why he wants to useless the money.

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

James Danley , Obama is also for the fight against terrorists,but he said we shoulnd’t fight blindly,the whole world supported us on the fight in afganistan,that is well understood,Bush and McCain fought a blind and useless war in iraq,you think the world are dumb? I support the war in afgan even if it takes 100years,not iraq war which everybody with integrity knows are greedy and useless.not all wars are won millitery,war on terror needs pure intelligence.not the type bush used in going to war.you need allies for better information,war on terror shouldn’t be fought blindly.

Posted by: roy | April 9, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Roy He’s running on a campaign message which was hashed out amongst his inner circle and was part of a strategic plan and it’s not like there is even one iota of a thing in his record or experience that would make anyone think he is the “change” candidate. He’s a rank and file Democrat, no more and no less. McCain, given his record and experience, would probably be more entitled to that label – and that’s not saying much. Bill Clinton was hope and change and came in talking new politics and represented youth and being outside the Washington establishment when he first ran for President and look at what you Obama supporters think of him. If I were in my early 20′s I would probably be out there in a second working for Obama and not because I wasn’t smart in my 20′s or because I was naive or because I hadn’t been living long enough that my voice shouldn’t count, but I would be enthused about Obama for alot of the same reasons many young people are. At this point I’ve been around long enough though and have voted for enough Democrats and Independents and even a couple Republicans to know that real change is not going to come from a Democrat or Republican. I agree with Obama that change comes from the bottom up but he’s asking you to mobilize, take your energy and money and funnel that to his campaign and he in turn promises you that change. Your bottom up is giving him the Presidency. Not going to happen. Change in this Country has come from individuals and/or a collective of like-minded individuals who had the strength of conviction and the courage to protest the Vietnam War; who refused to sit only where Blacks were supposed to sit; who got out and marched for civil rights, women’s rights and gay rights and so on. Voting for Obama won’t end this war as soon as this war would have been ended if many of the people (in particular young men and women) had taken to the streets and protested this war. Why do you think the likes of Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush haven’t advocated the implementation of the draft? Do you really think for one minute they would oppose a draft? They know if every family in this Country had to potentially sacrifice their young son or daughter for this war that this war couldn’t have happened or it wouldv’e ended sooner. They know this from Vietnam. They know people would have taken to the streets and protested and that’s where change from the bottom up would come from. Not from voting for this Democrat or that Democrat. The people of this Country can impact any politician and any direction this Country takes from their mobilizing from the bottom up. That change won’t come from casting your vote for a politician though. Oh ,they (politicians) make changes though, they look at the polls and the polls say NAFTA is big issue in PA so they talk about NAFTA in PA as Goolsbee is talking to the Canadians and saying “wink-wink he doesn’t mean what he’s saying” or Penn is down in Columbia working out his own deal (and personally I think the Goolsbee situation is of more concern even though Penn needs to go completely). Obama talks campaign reform until he starts breaking records on campaign contributions, then flip-flop, flip-flop. They’re all the same. Simple as that. What I can’t stand about Obama is that he promises , and it’s a campaign strategy on his part and nothing more, something he knows he will not follow through on. He’s never followed through on anything in his past record, so why would he be any different now? Clinton is Clinton, good or bad, but she’s not an apologist for the system of which she is part of and she’s not promising new politics, she’s promising realistic change from Bush or a McCain. She hasn’t raised the bar too high for herself nor has she boxed herself into a corner that she can’t live up to. Clinton has her embellishments but with Obama you’re getting the one big lie. If the press should be attacking anyone it should be the candidate who’s selling the people of this Country a bag of goods. His backtracking on public financing is proof positive of what is to come.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am

Roy, I agree with you on one point: Not all wars are won militarily. That is why the Battle of Iraq is so important. Not only to defeat al Qaeda militarily on their self-declared main battlefield of their jihad against Western Civilization, but also ideologically by helping Iraq to become a thriving democracy that will be a role model for its neighbors. The spread of democracy in the Middle East (including a democratic state of Palestine to co-exist along side Israel) and the elimination of the curricula of anti-Western Civilization — more specifically hatred towards Israel and the United States — in Muslim schools, is the ONLY way to defeat the terrorists.

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

alpaig,no one should hang anything on Obama,if the masses encourages him with there 10 dollars thats a good thing for the country,this is another way of demonstrating by the public,we had washington system for a long time now,I don’t ever believe Obama being a fake will get to this stage in a country where you have the strongest democracy,with hundreds of millions of people,had it been he was a billionire or was well connected,maybe i will have a second thought,i think some people with reasons best known to them just want to bring him down,the buttom line is Obama is leading a movement not just a political campaign,clinton can tell better,its a formidable force,Obama has come to stay,and should be listened to.we as a nation needs some change,we don’t want the type of bush government again,from the historic surplus to the historic deficit,what a waste.

Posted by: roy | April 9, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am

Roy You really need to look at where Obama gets alot of his money. He’s a corporate candidate just like all the others. He gets money from Citigroup, Exelon, Morgan Chase, Exxon Mobil, British Petroleum, UBS and on and on.
Alot of this corporate money has shifted to the Democrats because the assumption is they will be taking the crown. Obama is the Wall Street darling right now. He’s not outside the system, he’s inside. He’s counting on you to not do your homework and to see that he is no different than the others.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

James Danley,you know what,forget about Obama,clinton and McCain,To salvage our image,we have to clean up iraq,Obama said he will bring back our troops as quick as possible,i dont think he will just go and do it.why i support him is he is intelligent enough to know what to do best,this war is killing us,billions of dollars everymonth,lives,bush created the iraq battle field,al qaeda wasn’t there,i dont mean if we succeed that there is no gain,what i mean is the sacrifice is way too much,McCain will make things worse,no doubt about that.what i mean is we try a new way with a new face,with a new strategy,how about that.

Posted by: roy | April 9, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

At least Wright stood for something which is a whole lot more that anyone can say about Obama. A promise from that guy is not worth the empty air that blows back out of his mouth after the promise.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 9, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

About is correct. His source of money for the general election could be solely from the internet which is public financing. It will not be from lobbyest or corporations but from the people himself.
I think that people will accept that.

Posted by: maritza | April 9, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

maritza – I suppose you realize that 90% of Obama’s money comes from 10% of his large donors, don’t you?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 9, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

Roy I come from the State of Jesse Ventura and Paul Wellstone. Wellstone was about the people and he went to the Senate with passion, enthusiasm, ready to make change and take on the system and he ended up looking like a big doofus at the beginning. But he learned, he learned to work within the system and in the process he disappointed some of his supporters. But he was the real deal, he was about the people but he had to learn to be realistic and compromise. The veterans in this State were one of his staunchest
critics but by the time he died they were one of his strongest supporters. Now Ventura was an outside, but he was about Jesse Ventura. That became more apparent the longer he was in office.
He came in expecting to make big changes and by the time his Governorship was over he couldn’t get out of there soon enough. The best we can say about Ventura is that the State of MN. still stands but he was not effective, at least in regards to the areas he wanted to be effective in. There was resistance in the legislature based in many ways on his being an outsider, being less experienced and his arrogance. Obama is more Ventura than Wellstone. Obama isn’t about the people rather he’s about Obama. He’ll encounter resistance in Congress based on his lack of experience and arrogance, they won’t just rally around Obama and unite in his promises of hope and change. The fairy dust around him will disappear and he won’t be the media darling and he won’t be treated with kid gloves anymore, and they won’t make it easy for him. I don’t for one second buy into his unity, hope and change message and there are many like myself so he has a very impossible task to take on. His concern isn’t his supporters and the rest of us and that’s not going to be easy to accomplish.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

roy Obama’s own foreign policy advisors say we’ll keep up to 80,000 troops in Iraq until 2010 and that his goal of withdrawal by 2009 is just that, a goal, not a firm committment and that at best is a best-case scenario. He plans on continuing to use private contractors such as Blackwater.
He cites Bush Sr and Reagan as his foreign policy role models. He talks about unilateral strikes on Pakistan.
One of his more brilliant comments was the one at the debate where he said he’d withdraw troops from Iraq but if there was still an al queda presence we’d put troops back in, duh, what the heck was that about? They’re already there.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

Bush should know Iran was the biggest threat in the first place,majority of the hijackers are from saudi,the leaders of the named terrorist group are from egypt and saudi arabia,instead of pressuring their government,he overlooked them and went for oil,sadam was rendered powerless by the 12years of sactions,there was no airforce,no navy in iraq at the time he attacked them,what nobody seem to remember was how bush was singing regime change in in Iraq, when he was campaigning against gore,he had wanted to finish from where his father stopped(cheney’s idea).al-quaeda no al-qaeda,911 or no 911,weapons of mass destruction or not bush would still have gone to war with iraq with a different reason,McCain being an o yes member will make things more difficult,Being an american,i want the best for my country,I want us to purge the middle east of all the terrorist,war on terror is a delicate war,I will vote for a more cautious candidate,I will vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: Longing for a nice president | April 9, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

I am a big Obama fan, but that argument will not and should not hold water with the American people.

Posted by: c gibson | April 9, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

He’s just another typical politician. Hopefully people will realize it before it’s too late.

Posted by: rob | April 9, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am

Barrack Obama sounds,looks and acts presidential, McCain and hillary don’t.

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am

How come Obama couldn’t take time off from campaigning to honor Martin Luther KIng either on his birthday or at the memorial services in behalf of his assassination? Both of the other candidates were there; only Obama was missing>
Where oh where is Pastor Wright? Hidden from the camera’s eye so that Obama won’t be further embarassed by him?
That’s ok though; He’s got a six million dollar home in the works plus a ten million dollar pension…. just like every other pastor, be they black, green or white.
Where oh where is Michelle O? Also hidden away for safety sake?
You may be very taken with this man with the velvet voice and the borrowed words.
But some of us are very afraid of this unknown quantity. Very Very afraid…..

Posted by: QUESTIONER | April 9, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Obama doesn’t believe in eye services,michell is not the candidate and the contests is non of wright’s business..

Posted by: answerer | April 9, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am

answerer – Apparently Obama doesn’t believe in promises that he made either.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 9, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

This is always how we figure sore losers,they are always off point,you can’t get anything on Obama,you go for whatever is near and continue singing,Obama silenced you all with his speech,but few diehards are still whining.

Posted by: Adams | April 9, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

dogsoldier I agree. But it makes me feel better to get it off my chest but I know Obama supporters could care less about facts, positions, records or experience. I would just like once though for an Obama supporter to come back with something, anything, to support their candidate instead of hope, change, unity, he wrote a good book, gives good speeches , he’s Black (that’s coming fromt their mouths, not mine), he’s not Clinton , he’s not Bush, he’s not McCain, he’s the messiah,
he’s young and out with the old and in with the new. But they can tell me absolutely nothing about him that anyone couldn’t figure out with the just the minimal amount of attention to these primaries. Instead I get long lists of Clinton offenses that sometimes I swear come out of the archives of the National Enquirer or National Examiner. Oh, my personal favorites are the one’s who feel that Clinton destroyed family values and set women back 100 years and personally affected their family, by her standing by Bill during the Monica period. I swear I could say right now that Obama has said the first thing he is going to do once he gets in office is nuke Iran, Pakistan and anyone else who gets in his way that day, and the Obama supporters wouldn’t care. He’s hope and change. Unreal. They bow at the narcissistic feet of Obama, but you know the movement starts from the bottom up I guess.

Posted by: alpaig | April 9, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am

In politics, one true asset is your word, or more specifically how much you back your words with truth and action. It might be good from a politically stance to back off from his pledge, but he now has what is euphemistically called an “authenticity problem.” So if he wants to weasel out of it, there’s nothing to stop him. It’s just one more of those political expediencies that nails his “hope and change” argument. Can anyone believe anything he says?
When he says he really is opposed to the NAFTA… is that true?
When h says he did not hear the “GD America” sermon from Wright… should we to believe him?
When he said he really did not know that his associate Tony Rezko was a political manipulator… should we take him at his word?
The problem with backing out of the pledge now is everything he has said and will say is subject to strict scrutiny… so the next time he says that his candidacy is “change you can believe in”… well, let’s take that with a grain of salt.

Posted by: smartprimate | April 9, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

alpaig,
what state are you in?

Posted by: questioner | April 9, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am

Who’s fault is it McCain campaign can’t raise the type of money Obama camp as done? Obama just exhibited his talents as a brillant financial stategist.If the american people are this excited about supporting a presidential campaign over the internet should speak volums.

Posted by: merle7 | April 9, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am

merle7 – Obama money? Does this include the sub prime fund Obama is taking at the expense of throwing homeowners out on the street?
Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans. [cq.com]
Obama received $266,907 from Lehman. [Cq.com]
Obama received $5395 from GMAC. [Cq.com]
Obama received $150,850 from CS First Boston . [Cq.com]
Obama received $11,250 from Countrywide. [Cq.com]
Obama received $9052 from Washington Mutual. [Cq.com]
Obama received $161,850 from Citigroup. [Cq.com]
Obama received $4600 from CBASS. [Cq.com]
Obama received $170,050 from Morgan Stanley. [Cq.com]
Obama received $1150 from Centex. [Cq.com]
Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. [Cq.com]
Yeah, that’s a talent alright?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 9, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

What speaks volumes is that he promised to do one thing and is willing renege on that promise… is that what you want in a candidate?

Posted by: smartprimate | April 9, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am

Gotta go guys. I’m working the night shift and oil doesn’t pump completely on its own so I have to do my job.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 9, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am

michaelinphilly – yes he did promise
Obama… when he was the longshot nominee:
“Yes. … In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. … The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Sen. John McCain has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”
But then again that was last year and things have changed. Back then he stood for a new way of governing… today he’s just another politician.

Posted by: smartprimate | April 9, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

If Mccain can not raise as much money as obama, that’s his problem.
He shouldn’t try to drag him down to his level by invoking the public financing system.
Anybody in Obama’s shoes will do the same. Either Mccain or Hillary or whoever.
Why would you restrict your fund raising if you discover that you can raise much more? Let’s be practical and realistic.

Posted by: Geldo | April 9, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

Public financing should be abolished! It uses tax dollars that should be reserved for real needs to subsidize campaigning by politicians so lacking in support that people are unwilling to donate to their campaigns.

Posted by: jbcc54 | April 9, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am

The pledge which both candidates signed on to were for the general election. Neither party signed the pledge for the primary, which is a different pot of money.
Hillary did not sign the pledge for either the Primary or GE.
McCains loans have already been dealt with.

Posted by: smartprimate | April 9, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Obama is an empty suit.
A sock puppet for John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi to use to get rid of the Clintons and take over the party again.
They are doing this because they themselves couldnt ever win anything.

Posted by: tomdavie | April 9, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Obama will talk to the crazy one in Iran who advocates the destruction of Israel and working day and night to build the “bomb” so he can use it on us.
Meanwhile, he will not even speak to President Uribe of Colombia because he would rather see Hugo Chavez rule all of South America.
If you want to bring disaster to America vote for Obama. He is just a cheap politician from the south side of Chicago plotting revolution with Rev. Wright his mentor.
What is wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Lance | April 9, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Yes, I buy it Jake!
I have donated several times to Obama and I have never donated to any politician before in my life…I’m 42! Obama will not owe anyone except for the Americans who contributed ANYTHING since his campaign was funded by us. HE WILL CHANGE WASHINGTON…SO, JUMP ON BOARD AND WATCH HIM & HIS TEAM RESTORE AMERICA TO ITS GREATNESS ONCE AGAIN!
OBAMA / WEBB ’08

Posted by: Roxanne | April 9, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

He is looking at the individual voter…and I think up until recently he wanted to work something out because I believe he wanted to stick to that but then he realized this public finance thing …is really fake because of all the 527′s (and to be honest on both sides)
The 527′s are political and corporate/wealth/special interest organization financed and when they are throwing the numbers at either candidate the election is thrown out of whack…
This argument is the best one in the short term…

Posted by: dl | April 9, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

I buy it. The more money the better. Beat McSame already/.

Posted by: for Hillary | April 9, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Smartprimate…. Bravo! There is nothing wromg with reminding everyone what pledges were made by “He That Walks On Water”. Just Words???????????

Posted by: Jim | April 9, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Tom Davie has got it exactly right.

Posted by: an Opinion | April 9, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

I cant wait until this nightmare ends…
“HE WILL CHANGE WASHINGTON…SO, JUMP ON BOARD AND WATCH HIM & HIS TEAM RESTORE AMERICA TO ITS GREATNESS ONCE AGAIN!
OBAMA / WEBB ’08″

Posted by: tony | April 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

The man is a politician, just like any other and a weak one at that who has massive electability issues in a general election.
He has nothing more special about him than any other politican. he has sleezy ties to lobbyists, a checkered past, makes misleading statements and is a hypocrite.
He’s just a politician like any other. Vote for better policies or for who has a better chance of winning in nov.
Just don’t vote for this man thinking he’s any better than anyone else, because he isn’t. Probably worse because he has less experience and less support to begin with so he’s had to make an awful lot of deals.
He is nothing special.

Posted by: s.b. | April 9, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

I have never submitted any contribution to the Public Fund on my tax return.
1. Why would I want to pay for some guy I don’t want to pay for.
2. There is no public fund for the primary, so it is kind of a mute point.
3. He would be a fool to turn down the funds he can raise from small guy.
4. Clinton wouldn’t use public fund neither
5. McCain is broke and cannot compete, hr has no support and I don’t want him for presdident so I don’t want any of the public money to help him.
6. there is too many other ways these guys can get money spent for them anyway.

Posted by: Thinking | April 9, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

For the person who apparently thinks Obama is talking about no public funding for the primary, the pledge he signed was indeed for the general election. I felt it very telling and most interesting that during the debates, he said that he would meet with America’s worst enemies without pre-conditions or negotiations. He then went on to say later in that very same debate that he would have to negotiate with McCain before following through on the promise he signed to only use public financing.
Can you imagine if Hillary or McCain had made these statements? But the media never bats an eye at St. Obama. I’ve given up trying to figure out the media – in fact I’ve given up on the media. I will never again be able to hear about a serious story without going online and verifying the “facts” as they’re fed to me by the media.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 9, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

I think Obama has certainly proven himself. His came into this race with nothing but a dream and is now the front runner. You have to give him credit. He has overcome racism, party politics, attacks in his religion and the Clinton “machine”.
Whether he gets the nomination or not you have to give him credit.

Posted by: cindy | April 9, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

A pledge is good only for people who value the worth of their word. For a habitual liar, one’s word means nothing.

Posted by: Aston | April 9, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Tony, I’m asking this seriously and with respect. I often hear Obama supporters say that he will change Washington. How exactly do you see him doing that? Do you expect Republicans to rally around his liberal ideas? Do you expect that Kennedy and Kerry, who couldn’t get elected president themselves, don’t have plans for Obama to do their bidding? Do you think he’s going to decree that the influence of lobbyists be gone and they magically are? (And you do realize that there are some good guys among the lobbyists, don’t you?) Do you think the question of race in America is going to be put to rest once and for all? (And what happens if Obama has as tragic a presidency as Bush 43 has had? Remember, he ran on “change” too. Will that effect race relations in a negative way?) Please share with us your vision of a President Obama. Thank you.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 9, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Got to hand to this slick Used Car Salesman, he lies daily, said he was not in the pocket of lobbyist, but it turns out he his.
Yes he has done so much for Racism, if that means making it worse.
If Obama wins this country is doomed to put it litely, Hilary would not even be able to destroy it as bad.
He is the most Liberal Racist senator serving at this time.

Posted by: Notolibs | April 9, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Obama’s numbers speak for themself. He is getting public financing. He’s the only candidate refusing PAC donations. He’s the only candidate refusing money from registered lobbyists.
The debate is pointless. Right now, whether or not McCain accepts public financing, he is setting up a system by which he will see rich donor contributing tens of thousand of dollars to his party, all legal under the current system. Even if he goes for public financing, he will 2300 dollars a donor. Meanwhile, he’ll have dozens of 527s with no regulations on their contributions, doing much of his dirty work for him.
And what will Obama have? A vastly distributed small donor base, numbering in the millions, including some fat cats, but also including millions of ordinary Americans.
If our aim is to elect a candidate not dependent on special interests, one who can take political risks that might lose him the fat cats and still survive, then Obama is a superior candidate with a superior funding mechanism. If our intention is to value formalities over realities, then we ought to vote for McCain, and let him and his Lobbyist saturated campaign run.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty | April 9, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

I buy it. Even if he did pledge it would be absolutely stupid to honor the pledge. He is publicly financed by small donors ($106 so far) like me. If he and McCain were both in the official public financing system, Obama would be at a significant disadvantage because of Republican 527s. The only way Obama should agree to the official public financing system is if both campaigns agree to rein in the 527s. The Supreme Court decisions make that improbable.

Posted by: Keith Hood | April 9, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Obama demonstrated poor judgment by underestimating the efficacy of his candidacy then. He was a political fool to make a pledge and is coming off as disingenuous for going back on his word. He is a typical politician after all.

Posted by: LOM | April 9, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Obama’s position makes perfect sense. In September of last year, we didn’t know that McCain was going to game the system. When Obama put this proposal forward, he rightly assumed McCain would play by the rules, and that he could be trusted to honor the spirit and letter of an agreement he entered into when it came to campaign finance.
But in January of 2008, everything changed. We saw incontrovertible documentary evidence that McCain was gaming the campaign finance system. And I’m sorry, how can you trust the pledge of a man who is gaming the system?
I understand people in the media have great personal affection for McCain. But actions matter, too. And his actions in the primary on campaign finance simply aren’t above board. Obama would be a fool to believe McCain’s campaign would honor the letter and spirit of an agreement in the general when they didn’t honor one in the primary.
McCain may have championed public finance, but his commitment to it seems to be “do as I say, not as I do.” Obama would be a fool to give up the low-dollar donor fundraising advantage that is a direct consequence of his broad-based appeal and tie his own hands simply to benefit someone whose campaign depends on bundlers, PACs, and lobbyists, and who isn’t playing by the rules in the primary.

Posted by: anonymiss | April 9, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

I think Obama assumes two things: one, the success of his primary fundraising will falter in the general election, as people who’s spirit is willing but wallets faltering run out of money, and he has to rely then on assumption number two, that he’ll gobble up the lion’s share of Hillary’s donor base in the general election.
His first assumption, that people will flat out run out of money, is spot on. Already, his monthly totals have plateaued, and even slipped, comparatively speaking.
His second is dicey. It really depends on whether party loyalty and a dislike for McCain will translate into keeping Democrats, particularly traditional “Reagan Democrats Who’ve Got Bucks”, in line. Given how hard he’s hammered Hillary, and how close all three candidates are on so many issues (absent Iraq), it’s not hard to see how people might defect.

Posted by: actor212 | April 9, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

I could care less if Obama opts out of public financing. With so much on the line including Iraq, global warming, the economy, education, health care, it would be foolish NOT to take advantage of your huge fundraising capabilities to finally end this reign of Republican error. I say throw the kitchen sink. They’ve been doing it for years while trampling on everything we hold dear. It’s time to stop the madness. Besides, for McCain and the Republicans, public financing is a joke. The RNC and 527s will simply do the dirty work. Blow them out of the water, Obama.

Posted by: Reality | April 9, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

What’s the big deal? The whole idea of “getting money out of politics” and implementing public campaign financing is to curb the influence of corporate lobbyists and special interest contributions; Obama has already pledged not to take them and has found enormous success in piecemeal online fundraising, so why should he opt out of it?

Posted by: James | April 9, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Roy, how much sacrifice is too much to save Western Civilization? You think the price tag for the war is expensive now? Just imagine what the cost will be to our economy should the IEDs and suicide bombings begin at malls, sporting events and business hubs all across the United States. Staying in Iraq and militarily defeating al Qaeda abroad will not guarantee that the battleground won’t return to the homeland. BUT America leaving Iraq before we have defeated al Qaeda on their main battlefield in the jihad against us, will be seen in the Muslim world as a resounding victory for al Qaeda over the mighty American military — guaranteeing that they will bring the fight back to the United States of America. Deny it or ignore it all you want…but that IS the future of America if we let al Qaeda win in Iraq.
Incidentally, al Qaeda had a training camp in northern Iraq at least six months if not a year before we invaded.

Posted by: James Danley | April 9, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

OBAMA HAS LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY SHOULDN’T HE LIE ABOUT KEEPING HIS WORD ON HIS PLEDGE FOR PUBLIC FINANCING LAST YEAR. THIS GUY IS SUCH A FRAUD,

Posted by: MISSY | April 9, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

I don’t see that he made a pledge, just an agreement to pursue one.
Obama is smart, he has run the best organized campaign of any of them; bottom up. He also knows that McCain can get by with 85 mil. because the republican 527s will be doing the dirty work for him. That is why you hear so much whining from the republican side. From my point of view, Obama’s campaign is the best example of public financing.
What I would like to know is what kind of pay-back all those lobbyists working for free for McCain are going to want, if he should get elected?

Posted by: Sarah, Kansas City, MO | April 9, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Can anyone explain Obama’s relationship with Father Michael Pfleger?

Posted by: Just curious | April 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

All I can say is, GREAT. I hope Obama rakes in millions upon millions of dollars to combat the Republican smear machine that he’ll face in the general election.

Posted by: Michelle | April 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Obama should go with his supporters. He will need all the funds he can get to counteract the garbage they throw at him when Mr. Rove kicks in to help McCain win.

Posted by: Livvy | April 9, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

How on earth can you expect any fairness out of the public finance system when the FEC is completely unable to make decisions?
Given that the Republican nominee has already proven his willingness to ignore campaign finance rules, Obama would have to be stupid to opt into a system where the rules would only apply to him.

Posted by: Wes | April 9, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

All he’s doing is what he’s been doing all along: causing people across the board to change their paradigms. How much more public can one get with public-financing if the funds are coming directly from 100,000,000 persons? Heaven! Help me to find the answer to that conundrum, please?

Posted by: kid5rivers | April 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Although my ideology is very closely aligned with Obama on many issues, I am voting for Mccain in November. I know alot of Obama supporters say HRC’s followers won’t do it, trust me many of us will.
I supported him in the run up to Iowa. I was estatic with his win. Unfortunatly, it has gone on a very dark and down hill spiral since then.
I went to Clinton’s camp due to the constant about of blank hope checks he has been passing out. Change? Change what? On the war his own advisors basically said his stance was campaign speak. Same on Nafta. Same on general election funding.
I am voting for Mccain because the entire party has me disillusioned.
Hillary has too many negatives although I would be very proud to have her as president. She would never be able to get a substancial amount of good legislation passed. Barak has lost my trust with double speak, and the fact it appears he has become addicted to the large flow of cash coming in.

Posted by: shane | April 9, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

merle7 – Obama money? Does this include the sub prime fund Obama is taking at the expense of throwing homeowners out on the street?
Obama has taken ($1,180,103) from the top issuers of subprime loans. [cq.com]
Obama received ($266,907) from Lehman. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($5395) from GMAC. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($150,850) from CS First Boston . [Cq.com]
Obama received ($11,250) from Countrywide. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($9052) from Washington Mutual. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($161,850) from Citigroup. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($4600) from CBASS. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($170,050) from Morgan Stanley. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($1150) from Centex. [Cq.com]
Obama received ($351,900) from Goldman Sachs. [Cq.com]
Yeah, that’s a talent alright?
OBAMA HAS RAISED $240,000,000. THE AMOUNT (ABOVE) IS BARELY CLOSE TO $3,000,000.
OBAMA RAISED MORE THAN $230,000,000 FROM WELL OVER 2,000,000 DONORS.
THAT AMOUNT ABOVE ARE NOT FROM SPECIAL GROUP AND OBAMA WILL BE INDEBT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE HE HAS RAISED MORE THAN 96% FROM THEM NOT FROM LOBBIST OR OIL COMPANY OR ANY OTHER STUPID GROUP THAT STOP GOOD THINGS FROM HAPPENING IN AMERICA.
OBAMA SHOULD LISTEN TO HIS SUPPORTERS. IF THEY WANT TO FUND HIS CAMPAIGN THEN THEY SHOULD AND BESIDES MCCAIN AND CLINTON ARE NOT COMPETIIVE WITH ALL THE MONEY FROM PACS & LOBBYIST.

Posted by: Glory | April 9, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Jake,
Since you are obviously a Clinton supporter and are obviously trying to paint Obama as a liar because Clinton is one, there are still many of us who see through your scheme. Or maybe this is your assignment at ABC. See if you can dig up dirt or exaggerate the facts to make Obama look as deceitful as Hillary. Obama has lied about smoking, agreeing to CONSIDER public financing, and lets see, maybe he does wear boxers instead of briefs. You should be writing for the Inquirer, not ABC news.

Posted by: Frankie Hodge | April 9, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

It would be great to have a general election in which the focus is on the candidate’s differences on the issues and not their personal foibles. Would publicly financing achieve that? Would tax-exempt 527 groups be banned from advertising? Would each candidate receive the same amount? Not sure how it would work.
I do agree that his campaign is in large part funded by small donators like me who have never before given a penny to any campaign.

Posted by: Cindy | April 9, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Obama and his campaign have already achieved a superior reform of campaign finance. Why would he take a step backward and agree to federal financing that cannot compete with the 527 attack ads-especially since he will not use them to attack in kind. The way I see it, he has not gone back on his principals which is to get rid of the special interest money in politics.

Posted by: Lee | April 9, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Now that’s what I call “change you can believe in”!

Posted by: OxyCon | April 9, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Wow! First we find out he snuck a few cigarettes after he said he’s trying to quit and now this!!! Ohh my God! Quick, somebody unfire Penn… Obama is a total hypocrite.
Give me a break. He wasn’t advocating for public financing in a vacuum. He was doing it in the spirit of taking big money out of the picture and putting the public interest back in. Since his campaign has raised money from nearly 1.5 million small donors he has achieved the spirit of his goals. Unless there’s a limit put on the 527 groups that the big money republicans love to use (e.g. swift boat veterans for “truth”), he should absolutely not revert to public financing.

Posted by: Jake C. | April 9, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

I think Obama evolved. In nonpolitical speak, Obama lied or contemplated a distinctly different future.
It is obvious his first position was one on principle. This second one is based on his ability to raise money outside of the public financing system’s rules.
I think he should just say. I am now able to raise sums of money no one contemplated last year that Democrats would be able to go to regular people and ask for money. These regular people changed the political calculation/system for me and other Democrats.
He can go back to the evils his initial position tried to resolve and say why it is not the case now.
The thing is for him to admit the difference. If flip flop applies, cozy up to it.

Posted by: Genna | April 9, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

I agree with Senator Obama..why should taxpayers have to pay for this campaign. Why can’t the american people decide?

Posted by: Jerry | April 9, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

So, Obama changed his mind. In his position I would too. Is that illegal? Did he sign a contract, take an oath?
C’mon, this is politics. McCain has been gaming the public financing system himself. In fact he may even have done some more or less illegal shenanigans, including using the promise of public money to collateralize a $4 million loan. If McCain chooses to make an issue of public financing, it will boomerang on him. This is one reason why he has been mum on the subject lately.

Posted by: Ernie of Bayside, Queens | April 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

First, It would be irresponsible for Obama to take public financing when he has achieved nearly the same result with his web-based fundraising.
Second, I don’t think he ever solidly promised to take public financing. The answer he gave was really nuanced.
Third, Has anyone seen how much money the Republicans’ 527 groups (ex. the swift boat veterans…) are bringing in? These people will lie and smear and blanket the airwaves – and there is no limit to the money they can raise…Obama will need all he can get to combat those attacks.(as will Clinton, if she wins the nomination)
Also – Shane
(and for that matter) For those Democrats who insist upon making the profoundly absurd and completely devoid of any kind of logic threat that they will not vote for Obama if Hillary does not get the nomination (or vice versa).
WHAT are you THINKING (are you thinking)?
This is just beyond stupid. Go ahead, vote for McCain, then sign your kid up for the military. But hey, who cares as long as you are able to throw your little temper tantrum, Right? Nevermind that the economy will tank, we will be stuck in two (and probably three) wars we can’t afford and that are NOT making us safer…Nevermind that the Supreme Court will be solidly corporate and solidly conservative – Kiss your civil rights goodbye…But hey, if your mad that your nominee (who is nearly identical to the other nominee) did not get the nomination – then your kids and mine can suffer for it.
Come ON!!! THINK before you vote! It is nonsense like this that landed us W for eight years.

Posted by: Mel | April 9, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Obama only does what is good for Obama, if that means he has to change his mind over and over again, so be it. He SAYS what he wants people to believe, and many simply do as they are told. It’s so much easier that way. Pied Piper.

Posted by: RMJ | April 9, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

One word: 527′s.
As long as they exist, the limiting of funds to public financing is a joke. Obama would have to be intellectually challenged to go with $85 million public financing when GOP has hundreds of millions marked in 527′s for smear campaigns. Obama isn’t intellectually challenged and his money is as public as it can get right now.

Posted by: karela | April 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

He won’t need it anyway because Hillary’s going to win so who cares but its just like him to say one thing and do another.

Posted by: Bishop | April 9, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Yes – I buy it. The only way I’d push against this idea is if the networks gave free ad space to candidates. If campaigning in the modern age could be done more rationally – without 30 – 60 second “spots” but rather, full detailed infomercials run on all the major networks (and cable stations) at various times, along with serious “Frontline” style journalism, and genuine exploration of issues with real debates (complete with opening and closing statements…!) when we actually have genuine, publicly funded campaigning, I’m all in favor of nixing outside influx of cash. But in our present system – the American people choosing to fund the campaign of their choice is a far superior option to the American tax dollar being dolled out to candidates we may or may not support. Let the tax dollars fund the actual election.

Posted by: QueenTiye | April 9, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I buy it, yes. It’s clear the conservatives are gearing up for another swift boat summer and fall, and he — Obama — needs to prepared to fight that.

Posted by: Lynn Dee | April 9, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

McCain’s acceptance of the “pledge” is too cute by half, at least for anyone paying the least bit of attention. While Obama remains engaged in a battle for the Democratic nomination, McCain has already started his general election campaign with money outside the limits. What McCain wants is a limit on the amount to be spent after the conventions, once the Democratics have decided on an opponent. It’s like changing the rules in the middle of the game, so that it makes it harder for the losing party to catch up.

Posted by: John Dillinger | April 9, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

I have donated to a presidential candidate for the first time in my life. I’m 37. It was a whopping $50. My boyfriend has given $25, also for the first time in his 34 years. We are public financing.
Like we sometimes look at a spirit of the law, let’s consider this the spirit of the idea behind public financing.

Posted by: chris | April 9, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

McCain accepted public financing during his nearly bankrupt primary campaign and has illegally accepted private funds before the FEC approved his request to withdraw from the public financing system.

Posted by: john | April 9, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

I seem to hear a lot of sour grapes here from Hillary’s supporters that Obama lies. Address the question, please.
I also have one word for you. Bosnia.

Posted by: Reality | April 9, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I’m just a student, but so far I have donated $100 to Obama’s campaign. I am in favor of public financing of elections mainly so that rich people don’t get all the influence. But look at Obama’s campaign. 90% of his money has come from donations of $100 or less. That’s impressive and very democratic in that it means we all own this campaign not just the people who donate the maximum $2300.
Obama is running a bottom-up, grassroots campaign owned by the people and I’m inspired by it!

Posted by: simplicio | April 9, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I forgot to mention – I REALLY hope he doesn’t kick us small donors out of the process with accepting taxpayer funding. The Obama campaign has had some bumps along the road with grassroots fundraising – but in the main, it’s been a great experience to participate in this way.

Posted by: QueenTiye | April 9, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Some of those “individuals” that Obama receives donations from are the wives and law partners of registered lobbyists. Obama takes the money from their surrogates so he doesn’t have to report the lobbyist influence on his own campaign. He also has 9 federal lobbyists working on his campaign.
It’s a joke to say that his internet fundraising is the same as public financing. He’s bought and paid for by lobbyists just like the competition.

Posted by: Jeff | April 9, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Ok – isn’t it against the law for Clinton to accept help from Elton John? The concert is today but the Election Commission says:
U.S.C. SS 441a. Accordingly, the Commission concludes that a foreign national artist would be prohibited by 2 U.S.C. SS 441e from donating his uncompensated volunteer services to the Committee to create an original work of art for the Committee’s use in fundraising. The second question raised in your request is whether the contribution exception for uncompensated volunteer services provided by an individual to a candidate or political committee would apply in the specific situation you describe. This question is not reached since the Commission has concluded in responding to your first question that the foreign, national artist may not donate his volunteer services to the Committee for the purposes described in your request. This response constitutes an advisory opinion concerning application of the Act, or regulations prescribed by the Commission, to the specific transaction or activity set forth in your request. See 2 U.S.C. SS 437f.

Posted by: One More Thing | April 9, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Most of Obama’s donors may be small donors, but most of the money comes from big donors.
Obama made his pledge when he thought he would get political points out of it. Now that it’s not to his advantage, he’s abandoning it.
If you only have principles when they favor you, then you don’t have principles at all.
He made a promise. He should keep it. If he’s even 1% of the new kind of politician he claims to be, he’ll keep this black-and-white, clear-as-day promise of his. Otherwise, well, he’s just like everyone else, except he pretends to be better.

Posted by: Steve | April 9, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

I think we’re being premature. Nothing is decided.
“If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.” Obama
Realize that pursing and agreement is not the same as just up and signing one. It requires negotiations with McCain.
What many don’t seem to understand or overlook is that that agreement isn’t merely looking for a signature. That agreement would have to deal with the upcoming 527s and/or other loop holes for the swiftboating attempts by the Republicans in order for fairness. That agreement would also have to deal with the situation where McCain backs out of public financing as he has during the primary (with the legality of it still in question based upon what I last heard). It’s naïve for anyone to overlook that.
In the event that an agreement isn’t reached, Obama cannot stop raising funds for his campaign. He also can’t reveal much commitment to do so now or the funding will dry up with the perception that people don’t need to contribute (which is at the heart of what the Republicans are up to right now – hurt his funding).
Obama needs a good cashflow until the end of August so there’s no way you’re going to get a commitment out of him now. There won’t be a commitment until McCain sits down and haggles an agreement late this summer.

Posted by: CWatson | April 9, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

It’s OK with me if Obama uses individual donations up to $2,300 for the general.
Obama is refusing money from federal registered-lobbyists and most PACs, and I appreciate that.

Posted by: Eric Jaffa | April 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Financing by massive numbers of small donors is the best kind of public financing.
I don’t like government provided financing, because that leaves the gov. to decide who gets money and who doesn’t. It distorts elections by providing money based on who won how many votes in previous elections.
I have donated to Edwards, then Clinton and now Obama.
Obama should opt out, if he can do it with small donors.

Posted by: BobT | April 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Having more than 1 million people donate on average less than $100 dollars is probably the best form of public financing possible. Especially when compared to John McCain who would STILL have to raise money from a few wealthy individuals before getting matching funds from the government.
Had Obama been raising funds the way Clinton and McCain have and then backed off the pledge, I would have been disappointed.
Bottom line – I would want a president who would be beholden to the interests of the 1+ million people who have invested in his campaign rather than a few wealthy individuals.

Posted by: AM | April 9, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

HoosierSue:
The beauty of the “change” slogan for the Obama campaign is that it isn’t just Obama that will create it: its us. No, the Republicans aren’t going to just roll over and die, but if they have hundreds of constituents pressuring them to support policies that are good for the American people (for a change) then they’ll have to do it, or risk their seats. You see, it’s not just about trying to get Obama president, it’s about creating a movement, a new “moral majority” if you will, that create change. It’s up to US.

Posted by: metryjen | April 9, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Yep, I buy it.
In fact I heartily endorse it. The republican goon squad is going to go after Obama with everything they’ve got.
Why should he agree to unilaterally disarm? Especially since his supporters do not want him to.

Posted by: fourlegsgood | April 9, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Even as a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, I was never comfortable with excluding private money from electioneering, since it is, truly, a form of political speech. At the same time, until recently, Republicans held a huge advantage in fundraising since there are far more big money donor republicans than dems, or at least there were until recently. But with the advent of small time internet donations, the playing field has been more than leveled, at least for exceptional candidates.
Problem solved. Do away with public financing.

Posted by: ched | April 9, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Works for me. Obama has already been engaging in public financing. A large majority of his contributions are coming from small donors (like myself) who are donating on a regular basis (I’m doing it monthly). That’s about as public as financing can be. Now, I would like to see him challenge McCain to not take corporate money to show faith that the public can finance elections. Not going to happen, but it would be nice to see Obama challenge him.

Posted by: Kate Henry | April 9, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Perhaps Obama should do what McCain did. Accept public financing. Use that public financing as collateral for a loan. Then outspend the public financing pledge.
Obama never agreed to accept public financing, he agreed to talk about it. And he is doing it right now.
Someone earlier said that most of Obama’s money is coming from big contributors. This wasn’t true in January and I doubt it is true today.
Coming into January, many more of Clinton’s donors had already reached the $2,300 limit for individual donations. A report just completed by the Campaign Finance Institute showed that Clinton raised more than half her money in 2007 from donors who gave the maximum allowed by law. Obama, in comparison, raised just one-third of his money from $2,300 donors.

Posted by: Kate Henry | April 9, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

How do some of you commenting manage to even get on the Internet, let alone post a comment. Unreal
In response:
- What could be more “public finance” than 1.2 million donors and an average donation of $200? In a system rife with corruption, lobbyists and self-interested wealthy donors, Barack’s financing is about the most democratic method possible.
- From a behavioral economics perspective, there’s considerable value for the campaign in securing 1 million-plus donors. Study after study demonstrates that an individual is more engaged, more firm in their opinion, and more likely to persuade others if they have contributed their own money to a cause or issue. Skin in the game makes a Barack donor a more likely advocate, voter and volunteer.
- Those arguing that he’s greedy and doesn’t need the money should spend 30 minutes educating themselves about our political system and the costs of running a year-long nationwide campaign. You might want to start with the immense disparity between the DNC and RNC fundraising efforts, the surfeit of 527s and the value of being able to out-spend your opponent 3 and 4 to 1.
- Those arguing about promises – fine – Barack is reneging on a promise. That you can write this and not then immediately question the shenanigans that McCain is pulling regarding the financing of his own campaign simply reeks of disingenuousness.
- Those of you stating you will vote for McCain over Obama on this – enjoy electing a man who wasn’t the slightest idea about our domestic economy (apparently the recession is being cause by high tax rates!) and will accede to another 4 years of an unwinnable war.

Posted by: Steve Jones | April 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

metryjen, you can do that (bombard your congressmen with e-mails and phone calls) now. You don’t need Obama in power to do it. If he’s telling you that you do, then he’s trying to fool you.
If you’re talking about him sending you an automatic e-mail letter that you forward on to your congressmen, then you’re letting him do your thinking for you. In fact, his opponents will sign up for those same e-mails with the sole purpose of seeing what he wants you to say and then sending their own e-mail saying the exact opposite. And ’round and ’round it goes.
Minions are minions, whether they’re fueled by far-right talk radio hosts or far-left liberal politicians. It will be extremely easy to fall into a pattern of simply doing what Obama says without looking too closely or questioning – and that’s nothing but a replay of what we’ve been getting from the right for too many years now. It doesn’t serve a diverse America well.
I’m sorry if you feel I’m beating up on you. I truly don’t mean to. I appreciate your thoughtful reply to me.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 9, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

I think Barack Obama has come up with a brilliant idea. It’s great.

Posted by: Magical | April 9, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

I bet he’s going to spend the extra money on cigarettes and special cologne to throw the journalstic bloodhounds off the trail. Go get ‘em Jakey!

Posted by: Mike | April 9, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Forget any “pledge” or promise or hint- to-consider-discussion about public financing that Obama may or may not have made. All that should go out the window.
Why is anyone even discussing Obama’s finances at all?
McCain is breaking the law.
He’s not breaking the campaign financing “rules”, he is breaking the campaign finance LAW.
You don’t make – or keep – agreements with people who have shown they have so little regard for playing fair that they will BREAK THE LAW.
McCain (and his syncophantic press corps) need a lot of nerve to even bring up the subject of campaign financing, much less criticize Obama. The only thing Obama has done is keep his options open.
McCain, on the other hand, IS BREAKING THE LAW!
(But then, under George Bush, when has that ever been a problem for Republicans?)

Posted by: SV | April 9, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Obamas word thats a laugh, this is a sterling example of his ability to be honest to even a small degree.He gave his word and now he wants to not do what he said he would.

Posted by: girlinvt | April 9, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Um. McCain is committing a crime in the way that he busted the financing cap. You super-sleuths in the media ever going to talk about how he could get YEARS in prison for what he’s doing?

Posted by: Jay | April 9, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

If Obama can’t take private funds then how does Hillary get away with a foreign national (Elton John) hosting a fundraiser for her? The law says foreign nationals cannon contribute directly OR INDIRECTLY to any presidential campaign. I don’t want to be restricted from voting for the candidate I support.

Posted by: Dennis | April 10, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

The ranting here is a little absurd. We’re talking about the *general* election here. Should O be the nominee, he will be running against McCain. Not only can O raise more money that McCain–McCain has *already* gamed these same campaign finance laws. Laws that bear his name. And you all think it would be a *good* idea for O to negotiate an agreement on these laws with this guy? If Clinton was in the same position, would you want her to made this deal? Please.

Posted by: JonC | April 10, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Obama doesn’t play by the rules. He has backers who raise millions more than the other candidates. I wonder what price he will have to pay, for all that support in the end. Money is buying Obama the nomination and he figures it will buy him the presidency. Why would he run on an equal playing field, with public financing? He also stated , the nomination for presidency should be the will of the people, but yet he has done every thing to prevent a revote in Michigan and Florida. He was not to campaign in Florida, thats why he spent 1.3 million in ads in that state prior to the primary.

Posted by: jp,michigan | April 10, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Spin spin spin spin go the Obama fanatics.
Obama has demonstrated, beyond all doubt, that he will do and say what is most convenient for Barack Obama at any given moment. Any pledges, promises or past statements be damned. Some “change”.

Posted by: Brian | April 10, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Although Obama came into this election with virtually no track record, his actions are consistently revealing who he really is … by saying, or doing what ever it takes to get elected … whether it’s using technicalities to eliminate opponents … throwing associates under the bus … winning the nomination without winning the popular vote … breaking his word … or buying the Presidency … just like he bought the nomination. I think it’s becoming very clear which candidate is truly sincere, ethical, and trustworthy … and that’s Senator John McCain.

Posted by: Lee | June 19, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Obama’s so called centrist positions came about rather quickly, about a year ago, after 20 years of embracing the far left, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Phfleiger, Ayers, etc.. Everyone knows this disingenuous move to the center was to get votes … not because Obama all of a sudden had a true change of heart, and abandoned 20 years of his true beliefs. So, why does a good portion of the American public buy into to this?
What makes these gullible people think that if he gets elected, we won’t be stuck with a bunch of far left extremist socialist policies? After all, Obama has been the most liberal senator in congress, and Joe Biden has been the third most liberal senator in congress. Most, and third most, out of 100 senators are bad odds. Wake up American … keep America strong, elect McCain/Palin to the white house in November.

Posted by: Howard | September 3, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

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