By Nitya

Apr 18, 2008 4:28pm

Obama Shifts Post-Debate Attack from Clinton to McCain

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: At a town hall meeting in Erie, PA, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama stepped away from his criticism of the debate and Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Clinton, finding a target today in the presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain.

Obama blasted the Arizona senator for comments made in a Thursday interview with Bloomberg News  where McCain said "I think if you look at the overall record and millions of jobs have been created, et cetera, et cetera, you could make an argument that there’s been great progress economically over that period of time. But that’s no comfort. That’s no comfort to families now that are facing these tremendous economic challenges."

Today Obama responded, "Only somebody who spent two decades in Washington could make a statement as disconnected from the hard times we are facing all across the nation."

Obama then listed all of the problems economically Americans have withstood during President Bush’s administration, ticking through them one by one, "Here’s what John McCain calls great progress: we went through the first period of sustained economic growth since WWII that saw incomes drop. Eleven million more Americans don’t have healthcare, two million more Americans are out of work, millions of families are facing foreclosure, the poverty rate has gone up, you are working harder for less, you are paying more for tuition, you’re paying more for groceries, more at the pump, that’s what John McCain calls great progress."

Watch the VIDEO HERE.

Senator Obama, earlier in the town hall in Erie said that the economy has expanded, but it’s been rough for people, "Our economy actually expanded over the last seven years, that’s true. But here’s the thin: that was the first economic expansion where average incomes went down, not up. That’s never happened before."

Obama is embarking on a five day tour of the Keystone State leading into the Pennsylvania primary, hitting small towns along the way, and will continue to talk about the economy. The Senator started his day with a tour of The Erie Bolt Co. factory.

"How could somebody who has been traveling across this country, somebody who came to Erie, PA and say we’ve made great progress?" Obama questioned of McCain.

The McCain campaign immediately sent out a statement in response, saying that Obama intentionally twisted McCain’s words, "American families are hurting and Barack Obama is being recklessly dishonest," McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said, "Obama is guilty of deliberately distorting John McCain’s comments for pure political gain, which is exactly what Senator Obama was complaining about just yesterday."

User Comments

Can you smell what Barack is cookin’?

Posted by: Deep Release | April 18, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Hillary’s time has come and it done gone.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | April 18, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

being reading in LA Times and Fox News that Obama gave Hillary the finger. What a class act he is.
I will vote for anybody but Obama.
a lifelong yellowdog democrat

Posted by: ron | April 18, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Mccain is going to so fry Obama if Obama wins the election. He dosnt have the same considerations Clinton has a democrat. McCain can be the next president since there are so many skeletons in Obama’s closet.

Posted by: Turner | April 18, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Obama is nothing more then a lying hypocrite. He is unelectable and after the debate it is obvious that Clinton is the far superior candidate. It is time to vote smart and vote Clinton.

Posted by: Tobias | April 18, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Obama with $4 million last year is going OK

Posted by: democraticprocess; now a republican | April 18, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Horrible day for the Clintons
Losing ground in PA
Down 20 nationally against Obama, according to a new Newsweek poll
Losing ground in Indiana
3 new endorsements for Sen. Obama
One, a friend of the Clinton for the past 40 years
whoa

Posted by: Vanessa | April 18, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

John McCain’s best days are behind him and the “Rocking Chair” is waiting for him he’s old and frail.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

You will find it very interesting: every time Obama attacks McCain, he just ended up to embarrass himself…
Please fix your inner enemy first before jump out to shoot..

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

The Empress (Hillary Clinton) has no cloths and is full of hot air.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I like McCain’s react to Obama, ‘OBama should feel guilty’, ‘Obama hope you don’t mind’, ‘Obama conceived the country’… those kind ofs strong words.
McCain, great.
As I said, if no Hillary, I’m for McCain absolutely. Obama NO WAY!

Posted by: golfgirlusa | April 18, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Fox didn’t “make up” the middle finger fiasco, it’s on tape for all too see. And the audience seems to think he did it also – because they start laughing.
What a class act. Geeze.

Posted by: Jo | April 18, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

If Obama is a democrat nominee, all my families will vote Mcain. We all voted for Obama in primary. He lost our trust in his judgment.

Posted by: firstTime | April 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

When is Jimmy Carter going to endorse Obama? I think he should do it now, while he’s posing with Hamas. Hamas endorsed him too. We can make a double endorsement party!

Posted by: Jo | April 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

On 4/22, Penn will decide who God will bless…

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Every Hillary supporter I know (including my grandmother and all her pals) are voting for McCain if Obama is nominated. Obama doesn’t stand a chance. And Obama has apparently (according to polls) united the GOP behind McCain.
Obama is toast in the general.

Posted by: Jo | April 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Somebody used Fox News and unbiased in the same sentence? Now that’s funny!
I have a premonition that no matter who is gets the nomination, Fox News will be pro-Republican. Wow I’m good!

Posted by: Dan | April 18, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Please Pa. Hillary by 20 points. Please

Posted by: Oldgaman | April 18, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Hillary Clinton will lose Penn Primary by 10 points.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Come on ABC! Focus on real issues to help us pick a president. Whose funding their campaigns? How will they get us out of Iraq? How will we free ourselves of our oil-dependency?
No more cheap “character” stories on the candidates.

Posted by: Average Guy | April 18, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

I was very dissappointed with the debate questions by ABC News. This is a highly respected media outlet that reports facts not induendo. With all the topics affecting Americans, such as gas approaching $4.00 per gallon (some places $5.00), our infrastructure is falling apart, the dollars is below the Euro, your anchors/host of the debate could not ask Obama and Clinton anything pertinent to us the American people. “Boo whoo” on you ABC…we missed an important opportunity. Why is cereal approaching $6.00 a box and wheat bread $4.00 a loaf. Could you have asked anything pertaining to the kitchen table? Really disappointed!!!

Posted by: Robin Dixon | April 18, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Ms. Bosnia Sniper Fire should take a cue from what happened to Isiah Thomas (he got fired today by the Knicks) and quit on her own before she is escorted out.

Posted by: Sydney | April 18, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

I amazed and depressed by the commentary left by supposed ‘ordinary citizens.’ If this is what we have come down to, then the rest of the world is completely justified in the opinion of the US as a country of ignorant, arrogant philistines.

Posted by: Bill | April 18, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

The Empress (Hillary Clinton) has no cloths and is full of hot air.
Dogsoldier: You Hillary Clinton supporters can fight and go down with the Titanic I’ll trow you Life Guard tube.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

I am so disapointed in the democrats. How could the leadership let this happen? Obama is going to get destroyed by the republicans. His character and background has the republican attack dogs licking their chops.
This contest is already over. If Clinton loses this thing I am going to vote for McCain. The dems don’t deserve to win if they let this travesty happen.
And what about Michigan and Florida? If they had been allowed to vote then Clinton would have won easily. Now those states will be so pissed off they are going to McCain. I’ve had it with the democrats.

Posted by: reason | April 18, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

My friends in blogworld……….Do you smell Hillary in the oven? Hmmmmm, smells gamey, tough, yet in the cooker.
On the other hand. McCain is by far an easier opponent than Clinton.
Just picture McCain’s face when the teleprompter goes blank. No teleprompter, no McCain. It’s like little kids hypnotized by watching Barney on television. Classic.
Everyone may not like who the next POTUS will be, but deep down inside, they know. Denial just happens to be the last layer of the human defense mechanism. Ohhhhhh, but when reality sets in, LIGHTS OUT.
Therapy will be available.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

ABC has spoiled, perhaps forever, the proud tradition of Howard K. Smith, Sam Donaldson and Peter Jennings with its performance at the latest “debate.” A Presidential contest should bring out the best in the fourth estate, but ABC has contributed greatly to the dumbing down of the American electorate. It’s not a question of whether Obama can “take it.” What possible good did those first 45 minutes do for our understanding the candidates’ abilities to be President? None.

Posted by: Scott Barton | April 18, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

John McCain’s best days are behind him and the “Rocking Chair” and rubbing alcohol is waiting for him he’s old and frail.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

The chances of shutting the Clinton machine down for good on Tuesday looks better everyday.
Imagine the spin the Clinton camp will ATTEMPT when the curtains come crashing down during her solo act.
Classic. Deliciously Classic.
They’re even in PA folks.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

as a lifelong democrat and student of politics, obama cannot win one southern state (not even Florida) and will lose Ohio, Michigan and Missouri.
four years of Mccain…all cause the dems want to nominate another ultraliberal kerry, mcgovern, dukakis wantabe
…and the country suffers

Posted by: ron | April 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.

Posted by: Sydney | April 18, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

PA love Barack: What I mean is the comments left by posters are mostly illogical, immature rants many ordering on being just plain nasty. There is no reasoned discussion of positions or facts here, merely juvenile spouting and mindless repetition of ‘talking points.’ It really *is* depressing.

Posted by: Bill | April 18, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

You know, in all actuality, Obama has really taken it easy on Clinton by just sticking to the issues.
She, on the other hand, has thrown what her camp calls the kitchen sink at him and after all of that, they find themselves in deeper quicksand.
So sad to see Hillary pulling her Moms out of the house to help her campaign. Boy, is she desperate, or what?
Gimme a break

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Those of you who watch Fox News must be the same people who used to giggle when the teacher used her middle finger to point at something on the board. If you watch a longer clip, you will hear the crowd roar, even rise to their feet cheering, at Obama’s words. He scratched his lip first, then a few moments later scratched his nose. Scandalous, eh? Grow up!

Posted by: louiebond | April 18, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

John McCain will not win the Presidentcy…ask yourself why.
Obama all the way!
Good Night!

Posted by: Lookup | April 18, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

i am only holding on for Hillary, soon to jump the fence

Posted by: dem process toast | April 18, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

People just don’t like the Clintons. There is no way she will get the nomination. She should get out and endorse Obama so we can end the disastrous Bush years. That is all there is to it. Democrats do not like the Clinton style of slash and burn politics.

Posted by: Sydney | April 18, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

The fact:
————————
There won’t be nominee of Dems until convention..
The final nominee will be picked by DNC after all the pending issues have been resolved and statisfied by all the Dems…..
If the issues can not be resolved properly, the Dems won’t be united and will be defeated for sure in GE.
So who will be final nominee is still up the sky…

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

And that is why Obama (a freshman senator and a rookie) is beating The Clinton machine in every category. Pledged delegates, number of states won, popular vote, fundraising…etc. You name it guys. He is ahead of her in everything. The people are helping him take on the Clinton machine and beat it because they don’t want Hillary. But she doesn’t seem to get it. Howard Dean will probably have to call security on her and have her escorted out.

Posted by: Sydney | April 18, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Hillary defeated Obama on Women vote, White vote, Latino vote, Asian vote and most blue states…
The only reason Obama is leading is because of the stupid Dems’ primary system, he won’t be in the race if followed by Reps or GE’s rule…He just won red or black states and overwhelming black votes? If he can’t win Penn, then it proves again he can’t win big states and can’t win white vote….In the end, he can’t win the general election…So what is he good at?

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Obama did give her the finger!!! I thought that I was the onlyone that noticed.
He made a smart comment about her in the other night’s debate and schatched his cheek with his middle finger as he made the remark…
Why is he getting away with all this crap!!!?

Posted by: carlos | April 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

What happened Hillary? I thought you told us Clinton supporters that PA was Clinton country? Why did you lead go from plus 20 to now even? I don’t understand Hillary.
We accepted your lies and the padding of your resume regarding your experience. We supported you even though your a 100 million dollar woman with your campaign being in debt. We loved it when you cried and down shots of whiskey, but we don’t understand how you can possibly lose in a state heavility fortified with Clinton supporters? PLEASE HELP!
We’re sinkiiiiiiiiiiiiing!

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Dogsoldier,
I’m with you dude. As the arrows of the zombies rain down upon us, so many as to blot out the sun, I’m prepared to fight in the shade.
=======================================
Obama zombies, come and get it!
=======================================

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 18, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Just watched the debate. The “infamous”. As Hillary would put it: “Shame on you! Shame on ABC!”

Posted by: Keen | April 18, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Again, please hold your anger and wait for another 4 days….

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

No one likes Hillary’s relentless attacks, sarcasm, and complaining. It is very unsavory to say the least. I much prefer how Obama always seems to take the high road, and shows some restraint in this process. How long do you think the latest incarnation of Hillary, “the shrinking violet” nice Hillary will last? Not long at all- she will be back in the “attack dog” mode within a few days. “Nice” is just not her nature. Her true nature is to attack hard, and treat this as her husband says, a “contact sport”. This is her true nature, the one she feels most comfortable. She is a pretty good actress, though, I have to admit that. She has morphed her personality and voice all over the place during this campaign- so much so that you would suspect that she had multiple personalities. Which Hillary will show up tomorrow. If you want to see something interesting, wait for her reaction after her loss sinks in. I wouldn’t want to be Bill. They have already booked their vacation getaway in Martha’s Vineyard for the month of September- seriously! In the midst of a democratic run for the White House! So much for getting out there to help Obama in the national election. Thankfully, it’s all but over now.

Posted by: rco | April 18, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Obama did not give Clinton the middle finger. It has ben de-bunked. The same picture on other websitse show both fingers are up. It’s sad you Clinton supporters focus on something this trivial.

Posted by: Tiffany Martinson | April 18, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

The Clinton camp is running out of straws to pull. WHAT DO WE DO NEXT???
Imagine the morale of a campaign that knows regardless of what it does, it has virtually no chance of winning the war. When you see former cabinet members of the Clinton Administration supporting Obama, that’s gotta sink in on the cerebellum.
They know. Hillary is done.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

What happened Hillary? I thought you told us Clinton supporters that PA was Clinton country? Why did you lead go from plus 20 to now even? I don’t understand Hillary.
We accepted your lies and the padding of your resume regarding your experience. We supported you even though you’re a 100 million dollar woman with your campaign being in debt. We loved it when you cried and down shots of whiskey, but we don’t understand how you can possibly lose in a state heavily fortified with Clinton supporters? PLEASE HELP! Arrggggghhh!!
We’re sinkiiiiiiiiiiiiing!

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Thanks Obama, the Dems party is divided and will be defeated the third time in a row in G.E..

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Numbers don’t lie.
Since Feb, Obama has acquired 80 superdelegates to Clinton’s 5.
She’s getting blown out in all categories.
She’s gotta be embarrassed to be the initial frontrunner and virtual lock for POTUS.
Listen kiddies…..Never underestimate your opponent and always maintain the highroad with they become negative. Negativity is the first sign that you’re winning.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Common Sense – Numbers don’t lie? Then you agree Obami can’t win his own democratic primary outright?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

An article today from one of the major new outlets described on of Hillary’s rant stops at the Haverford Campus in PA, and I found it amusing that the Hillary staffers and video guys were walking around the campus approaching groups of women to interview and organize, asking “is anyone here a Clinton supporter?”. Guess what? No one supported her! How embarrassing and demoralizing for Hillary’s people! College kids and professors don’t buy into Hillary’s sarcastic and caustic tactics.

Posted by: rco | April 18, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

PA is Clinton Country, isn’t it? Errr, was.
Goodnight Hillary. Time for bed and a botox

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

BRING ON MCCAIN!!
He’s going to be better than late night TV!

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Vannessa: What about that Gallup tracking poll you are so fond of? Looks like Obama is the incredible shrinking man! Lost 7 points in 3 days! Hillary has him on the ropes! After Tuesday he can give the people of PA the finger!

Posted by: russell | April 18, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Obama did not give Hillary the finger.
This is the STUPIDEST distraction that Hillary supporters are trying to create.

Posted by: Stacey | April 18, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

They have nothing else to hope for Stacey. Let them think it was a middle finger so they can have something to whine about.
It doesn’t matter anyway.
She’s old news.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Uh oh. More cynical rhetoric?
More laughs.

Posted by: Common Sense | April 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Senator McCain is head and shoulders above Hillary and Clinton. He may be older, but he is also wiser and he loves America. Whenever you love someone or something you always take beter care of it and McCain has certainly shown how much he loves our country. Obama is a good speaker, but we don’t know enough about him and he does not have enough experience to be president and neither does Hillary. My vote goes to Senator McCain

Posted by: sharonr | April 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

sharonr – McCain who?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

When people care about which party will present his/her best interest, they will vote for whoever the party nominee is….
When people care about which candidate he/she likes, they will vote for individual….
If the hatred has been rooted deeply towards either Dems candidate inside supporters from each side, it means Dems party is divided and there will be more Dems either stay home or vote for the counter-party in G.E….
It should be all thanks to DNC to make its primary undecisive and unconvincing……
Without a united party, Dems will be defeated for sure….

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Let’s face it…Obama has had an easy time of it with the press. He did not handle the pressure well. Politics are tough and he’s the media’s darling. I give ABC credit for not giving him the pass he has previously enjoyed. However, this process has gone on way too long. Primary season should be two weeks long and if you are running for office you should relinquish your Senatorial position.

Posted by: Lucille | April 18, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

**
Obozo continues to whimper because those guys played dirty by challenging his past statements. As usual, he goes right to the attack mode.
And, as his article’s headline makes clear, he’s attacking McCain. Get ready for some mud-slinging and guilt-by-association as the little puppet diverts attention from his poverty of understanding complex issues!

Posted by: S | April 18, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

McCain is very right, the economy for the upper 3% in this country has been very favorable the last 7.5 years. Now it is our turn! I hope he keeps making these out of touch remarks, very helpful to the cause.

Posted by: Don | April 18, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

No party in History has ever held onto the White House when there was a recession during the election year. Obama is going to blow mccain away this fall. The bush-league coattails will be dragging a loooooog way behinh McMore-War. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

pt
What recession?

Posted by: S | April 18, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

A.K. , my guess is you voted for bush/cheney the last 2 elections. People like you should have to sit this one out for showing such a lack of common sense and judgement. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

S, the recession of 2008. I guess you know the economy better than Mr. Greenspan and 99% of the credible financial experts. If this country doesn’t get rid of the GOP this recession will turn into a full-blown depression, just like Hoover. Hoover, Nixon, bush, some people never learn.

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Don – This is an energy based economy which ever way you want to cut the cards. Everything in North America depends on energy. Now, what do you think is gonna happen in the middle east when the troops come home? If you’re smart enough you know the middle east will erupt in fames and the price of oil will seem cheap now in comparison to what it will be then. And when Iraq falls to the fundamentalists, and it will, then Afghanistan will fall next. None of us can avoid those facts. And if Iran get their nuke, and you know they will, and then threaten Israel, who is sitting on 300+ nukes by best estimates, then all hell will break loose. On our watch. I sincerely hope and pray I’m wrong but the tea leaves don’t look good as I write.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Clinton picked up three supers also today 2 former Gov. from NJ.she picked up three last week one from MT.she is still a head in Pa.

Posted by: Bishop | April 18, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

pt
The last recession was in Clinton’s 2nd term. So far, the country IS NOT in recession.
Stop flinging assertions. Assertions are a sign of a lack of comprehension of complex matters. People who can’t work a fact into a conversation make up their own. They’re easy to spot!

Posted by: S | April 18, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Wrong again S. There was no recession during Clinton’s terms. The recession came on bush’s watch after 9-11. You are right on one thing, it’s easy to spot people who don’t know the facts. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Historically, if Hillary leaded or tied poll before state primary, she always won…
Why? Because a lot of her supporters are low or middle income people who typically won’t be picked as polling sample…
More is that Hillary alway won over late deciders since they have doubt about obama and didn’t fall in love with him at first glance…

Posted by: True Truth | April 18, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

The country was in recession BEFORE Bush took office.

Posted by: Aston | April 18, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

pt – Plus Clinton the nation with a surplus. Wonder where that went? H-h-m-m? S you have any ideas?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 18, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Seems that 20 years in Washington to represent the good people of Arizona are better spent and for a good cause than 20 years in a racist church, being educated by a hatemonger who condemns America.
It seems clear who has the good judgment.
What the world is this hypocrite talking about.

Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | April 18, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Dog, my guess is they are. I just wanted to set the facts straight. Looks like bonehead at least picked a name that suits him. When you see some of the bloggers here it sort of makes one understand how the bush-league could get elected twice. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

FYI, this boneheaded has not voted for a republic presidential candidate before. Since there is already enough boneheaded here, there is no way this boneheaded can possibly vote for another boneheaded, that is, your boneheaded. We cannot have too many boneheaded, can we, You bonehead?

Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | April 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

The most important issue facing our country since 9/11 has been the security of our country. President Bush has made mistakes in some areas, but so far, since 9/11 and on his watch our country has not suffered another bombing. I’m certain there are threats made against us daily. Even though we have many problems facing us – none compares to the safety of our country. Senator John McCain is the most qualified to be our next president.

Posted by: sharonr | April 18, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

I still cannot believe that people out there that are Pro-Hillary or Pro-Obama say that they will vote for McCain if there person is not the democratic nominee. I support one of them, I don’t even have to say which one, because the main reason is that we beat McCain in the fall. You may have strong feelings for or against either candidate but listen to yourselves. How can McCain be your next choice, all that it means is that you are like young child… that if you don’t get what you want you are going to defy everyone. Do you really think that John McCain is better for this country than either one of the Democrats? Seriously listen to yourself. If you really feel that way, just don’t vote at all in the primaries or the general.
Democrats have to win in November! I will vote for either Hillary or Obama, I would prefer my favorite…but either one is better than another 4 years of Repulican leadership.

Posted by: whoareyou | April 18, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Hey, pt – do you know Obama thinks the Clinton and Bush administrations are the same. So, in his mind, they are both in recession. Perhaps, you need to teach your candidate one thing or two so he won’t say stupid things like during the Clinton and Bush administrations people are bitter and thus they do not vote for him.

Posted by: yahoo! | April 18, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

sharonr, the TRUTH is that this country is less safe and has far more enemies because of the bush/cheney policies. People are beginning to realize that, and that is why Mc-More-War will get blown away in the fall. Let’s go from the worst-in-history to the Best-In-The-Future. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

pt, the truth is you do not know that we have more enemies because of the bush/cheney policies. But, we do know that our country has not been attacked since 9/11. In my opinion Obama is not experienced enough to be president and I would rather have Senator McCain answering the phone. To have change for change’s sake is not a good idea!. Senator McCain is an American hero, and great leader who is able to work with Democrats and Independents.

Posted by: sharonr | April 18, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

sharonr, when things are in such a mess you need to be brave and accept that change will be better for everyone. Obama will be able to bring this country together, he’ll be able to talk with world leaders. Today the mayor of NY (Michael Bloomberg) said that it will be nice to have an adult in the white house for a change. We all know what he meant by that. Hopefully you will have the courage to try something different and vote for someone that has everyone’s interest at heart, not just the top 3% of the population. Obama 2008!

Posted by: pt | April 18, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

whoareyou
Now why would a moderate democrat forsake his beliefs to vote for a leftists if the republican candidate more closely represents his view?
People who vote their party without thinking twice about it have their votes negated by the extremists on the other side. It’s the thinkers in the middle who analyze issues and make informed (not emotional) decisions.

Posted by: Aston | April 18, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Is obama going to unite the country the way he united the democratic party, I think 30% of the dem party plan to vote for McCain not obama.

Posted by: dem process toast | April 18, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

pjw5552
We all know what a leftist will do with the changes you suggest. Throw more money at the problems and say ‘What a good boy am I’.

Posted by: Aston | April 18, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

pt, How do you think Obama is going to make things better? For your info, I am an Office Manager so I’m not in the top 3%. I do not believe that Obama has everyone’s interest at heart – it is hard for me to vote for someone who has chosen to be associated with people who belittle our country and our leaders. I do have courage to not vote for someone just because they are different, but instead I will vote for someone who will take care of America and her citizens.

Posted by: sharonr | April 18, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Paul
What changes exactly are you talking about? And don’t you think Pelosi will control the agenda like she does now?

Posted by: Aston | April 18, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

If I took a beating like Obama did in the debate, I would try my luck somewhere else, too.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 18, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

I’ve read most of this ??? and it makes me really sad and disheartened to be in a time when things seem so–terrible, for lack of a better word. Voting to me used to be an honor, a democratic right, that I as an american took very seriously. I as a Floridian, through no fault of my own, lost MY vote in the primary, and have had to watch the travisty going on now, knowing my state would have had a impact on this farce. B.O. has lost face in my eyes the very minute he could sit and listen to the filth coming out of his ministers mouth, damning our country, our nation without taking a stand and telling the s.o.b. to go take a walk in a different country and spew his filth there. He did not stand up for us then- what makes you think he would do anything different now? Don’t you people realize we are all being played- it doesn’t matter who we vote for- so B>O> gets the nomination-DO YOU HONESTLY THINK HE WILL WIN—NOT

Posted by: Florida gal | April 18, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Also, it WAS Obama who in a very early debate made an issue of NOT wearing this flag pin. WHY on earth would you EVER do that? It doesn’t make sense. A person has to pick their battles! I don’t want a President that doesn’t understand that. Now, he acts like he’s being attacked. He brought this upon himself.
Secondly, he has spoken about changing the mindset that got us into the war in Iraq. Well, honestly, that mindset was that we all understood that we had to do whatever it took to stop the terrorists from getting weapons of mass destruction! He cannot have Bin Laden with nuclear weapons! Yeah, the war was a mistake. BUT WHAT MINDSET IS OBAMA talking about?

Posted by: Ben | April 19, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

silly man is still trying to pretend he’s a viable contender for the white house. he’s finally being exposed. and he’s whining like a baby.

Posted by: so saddened | April 19, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

James,
He for sure gave her the finger. Really mature. This guy will never get elected.
Clinton 08!

Posted by: Sam | April 19, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

If you read Obama’s statement to the wealthy, elite group of San Francisco donors, you will see that he not only attacked Pennsylvanians but also people in small towns “across the Midwest”.
Why can’t people recognize that Obama does nothing but pander to the group to which he is speaking. When he talks to the unions, he talks of overhauling NAFTA (while winking to the Canadians that he really does not mean it); when he talks to predominately black audiences, he tries to sound like Martin Luther King; however, Obama has ties to Ayers and Farrakhan — not MLK.
When speaking to predominately white audiences, he wants them to believe he is the second coming of JFK and Robert Kennedy.
When he gives a speech about patriotism (such as his now famous speech on race, when he threw his white grandmother under the bus), he stands in front of a sea of US flags.
You know before that speech, Obama was rarely photographed or taped standing in front of the US flag. Now, you will see flags behind Obama at every one of his speeches.
Flip-Flop! WILL THE REAL BARACK OBAMA, PLEASE STAND UP?

Posted by: CONCERNED | April 19, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

The problem is that the truth is still not being told by the media. Who is covering Obama giving Clinton the finger?. You Tube has the video but none of the major news channels are covering it… surprise…surprise

Posted by: Sam | April 19, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Ben, I think you are wrong on both counts. Obama never made the pin an issue. He just did not wear one all the time. Others presumed that meant he is not patriotic. Of course that is nonsense. This is not Russia or China, at least it is not supposed to be. Also, Bin Laden is not the one who might get nuclear weapons, he is the one they can’t find – remember? And Saddam didn’t have them either. Nor do the Iranians. Get a life. You can’t possibly believe all the fear mongering that is going on by the Repulicans? But I suspect you know that and you are one of the many hired hands of the Clintons or Republicans. Sorry, but you are going to lose. Your extremist and desperate tactics are clear to all thinking people. And I am confident there are enough Americans still thinking to get the right thing done in America.

Posted by: Paul | April 19, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

So if Hamas prefers Obama Presidency, so what? lol
Can an upstanding American like Barack Obama HELP BEING LIKED by the good, the bad, or the ugly? lol
May be Hamas is willing to surrender intractable position to Obama that they would not think of surrendering to others. And if that helps to place the Jews and the Palestinians on common ground, what’s not to like? lol
Guys like John McCain are THE PAST, are very very old school.
It is narrow mindset like that of McCain that has gotten the US mired in Iraq, destroying lives, limbs, mental health and killing of the US economy, while the maniac muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan remains THE REAL & IMMEDIATE THREAT TO AMERICA!

Posted by: New Yorker | April 19, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Guys, let me be VERY CLEAR.
I am a HUGE Obama supporter, and will vote for HRC if she gets the nomination.
HOWEVER, the only way she gets the nomination is by reversing the peoples vote in a convention in August, after four more months of this craziness, at which point there is NO WAY she will win the presidency with the vote reversed; I am reluctant to say this but even if Obama is given the nomination in August I think it would be very difficult for him to win the presidency.
I really hope for the sake of the Democratic Party Obama can pull out a win TUESDAY. If not I am not hopeful either Democrat can win the Presidency with this race spilling out a few more months.
By supporting Hillary in PA you are prolonging the race another three months so the peoples vote can be reversed at the convention by Washington politicians.
I don’t think even Obama can help Hillary win the nomination at that point, it will be a disaster.
The writing is on the wall here. Democratic strategists are making clear this race can not go on until August.
As far as Florida and Michigan PLEASE READ the consistent statements HRC made in Iowa and NH stating she agreed with the DNC’s position for these future contests not to count, which she said repeatedly. She also signed a statement saying she would not contest it, call it a win if she won, visit the state, or campaign there and she did all four.
There is no controversy. Not a single paper in the United States published a story when she “won Florida” even papers like the nytimes that endorsed her.
If Hillary wants to liken Obama to Bush in what happened in FL in 2000 than she should be asking herself why she made the same pledge Obama made prior to the election.
The Michigan election Hillary Clinton was the only name on the ballot as Obama followed DNC rules by taking his name off. Now he should be punished for it?
Hillary is lying to her own supporters. If was so strong about making that election count she should not have repeatedly for months told America why she agreed it shouldn’t count until she was down in delegates after South Carolina and needed some excuse to say she was up.
Obama took the high road and said he would do whatever the party wanted, was fine with a re-vote and campaign there. The state tried for months to find funding they couldn’t, Hillary tried to find supporters of hers to fund it, couldn’t. The only possibility was a mail-ballot deal. Obama objected because there would be TONS OF FRAUD. In my state of Oregon they do voting by mail but have tested it for 10 years and have peoples signatures. It is clear they will be tons of fraud making whoever wins seem not legitimate. We are going to have another scenario like Bush in Florida in 2000 with Gore WHOEVER WINS as there will be massive fraud as you are essentially mailing a blank ballot to every single address in Florida.
You are going to have supporters of both candidates complaining they never got their ballot in the mail as some won’t arrive or the people moved, lots of problems and if say Hillary or Obama won by a small margin the other side would then accuse them of fraud. This would divide the state, with the suppporters of each hating the other.
This would ensure that whoever won will not win Florida in the general election as the supporters of the other will feel they were screwed.
In Michigan Hillary Clinton was the only name on the ballot and got 51%…She promised to the DNC to take her name off but kept it on at the last minute so she could pull a game like the one she is playing here. Why is everyone elses name off of it.
Give me a break. Her argument that we should count that election just because a bunch of people showed up to vote is ridiculous. By that same argument she should have “stood up” for those people when she told everyone she agreed with the DNC’s position for it not to count, not just after she won it.
Reversing the ruling to make the Michigan OR Florida election count would be the BIGGEST case of Election Fraud in US History. It is worse than what Bush did in 2000 because in Michigan half the people didn’t have their voices heard as their candidate was not on the ballot.
Can you imagine if in a general election it is your candidate Hillary vs. McCain and in your state Hillary is not on the ballot and they say, well we should count it anyways because all of these people showed up. I don’t think Hillary would be very happy with this or her supporters.
This is an example of a fake controversy and a legitimate reason why the media doesn’t like her as she insults them.
Why isn’t she honest with her supporters that she is down by a ridiculous amount of states and votes and needs their votes so she can push this to the convention in august and get the peoples vote reversed so she can win.
I don’t see ANY WAY Hillary can win if this goes until August and she wins by having the vote reversed. But all she cares about is being the nominee, if she isn’t the nominee she could care less if the Dems lose and has shown that consistently.

Posted by: Dave | April 20, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

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