By Jennifer Parker

Apr 14, 2008 9:08am

Obama Spin Level of Difficulty: 9.7

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is trying to explain his comments about small-town Pennsylvanians to the San Francisco crowd as a clumsily-worded compliment.

Obama told the Winston-Salem Journal  "If I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that. … What I meant was something that I don’t think any of us can argue with, which is that people feel abandoned after 20 or 25 years of plants closing, jobs not coming back. People feel like Washington’s not listening to them, and as a consequence, they find that they can only rely on the traditions and the things that have been important to them for generation after generation. Faith. Family. Traditions like hunting. And they get frustrated.”

Ah, yes. Those wonderful traditions.

Faith.

Family.

Bigotry.

Xenophobia.

Because, let us recall, Obama said that, small towners, faced with economic hardship and a dismissive Washington, DC, "get bitter" and "cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The proud traditions of small town America.

- jpt

User Comments

yet another stereotyping from mr. uniter…

Posted by: pp | April 14, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Obama’s condescending and mocking response to the issue is a revealing indicator of his elitist and condescending attitude toward not only toward small towns, the poor and working class, but also women when he invokes the classic male response to a woman’s criticism that hits the mark, a mocking put down. It is generally a sign of a sure shot as the stinging truth hits the bulls eye, when a guy comes back with laughing at his female accuser. This attempt to mock Hillary rather than answer accusations attempts to deflect attention from his mistake, his flaw by gathering the “guys” to attack Hillary and defend him because this “woman” can’t possibly know about guns. He mocks Hillary with the image of “Annie Oakley” dismissing her as if she was not a real woman. This response speaks volumes about how he views women generally and this woman specifically. His attempts to belittle her, once again attempts to deflect the attention from him and the seriousness of the real issue, “what he thinks and how he thinks, or not”. Once again, he can avoid answering the question or facing the issue by laughing it off, making a joke, not taking it seriously, mocking anyone who questions the messiah. These comments are reflective of how he views most of the population of this country, from his presumed throne. He may try to use Annie Oakley to mock Hillary, but Hillary is a sure shot and she seems to have hit an elitist bull’s eye.

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | April 14, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

He is continuously playing the Race card and Social Card.
How come nothing was said about that its liberal policies closing down the factories with all the mandates. That is why car plants are closing?
By his statement he is saying we should accept Illegal Immigration and NAFTA (Trade) but I thought he was against them!
He is a better crooked politician then Clinton!

Posted by: NotoLib | April 14, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

SOSDD
Obama’s still an empty suit. Assertions intended to divide. No solutions! Same Same Same!

Posted by: Aston | April 14, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

C’mon Jake, you know he meant when you’re economically struggling you point fingers at immigrants and trade when the real problem is the government.
You know what he meant.

Posted by: Brian | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

He doth protest too much. He meant it as a compliment? Yeah, right!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 14, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

What was up with that entry ? No new news ?

Posted by: Benjamin | April 14, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

LOL — this is great stuff. The so-called Obama Generation proclaimed that their candidate would not be divisive, that he was “politics as usual,” and that he would “bring the nation together.” What happened? Oh — Hillary Clinton caused him to be bitter and he clinged to “spin-doctoring.” Wow. That’s so said. He cannot attract poor voters because they view him as the candidate of coastal elites and immature college students, and he blames Bush and Clinton for this. What a deflector he is.

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

I just saw a clip of Obama strutting around on stage making fun of Hillary, trying to make a joke of this.
It isn’t funny. And it isn’t a “typical little political flare up” as he said.
I am from a small town in N.C. and I resent what he said. I also believe his downfall will be his pride and his huge ego. He can’t help himself…This is who he is. Great article Jake!

Posted by: cindy | April 14, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

The question posed to Obama was about VOTING and NOT what happen when people are frustrated with their economics condition.
You tell me why Al Gore lost to GW Bush in West Virginia during the prospeous time of the Clinton administration. Democrats lost congress in 1994 until 2006.

Posted by: Bob S | April 14, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Benjamin — kind of weird seeing Obambi get dissecting like this. When Clinton had a gaffe, and it was all over the web and late-night tv, I’m sure you were dancing in the streets. Now, one-day into the story and it’s time to move on? Not so fast. Besides, the “news” is Obama’s strained spinning efforts. Yes — clinging to my gun and god because of Bush and Clinton. LOL. Just a mess. I can totally appreciate the concept of people being bitter and even voting on certain issues out of this anger and fear of their own economic situation, but to dismiss rural people’s culture the way he did — the religion and gun thing — indicated that something else was in play.

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Dead-on accurate, Jake. That statement if full of grenades. They will continue to blow up.
Obama’s just revealed how he views much of America, and we’re glad to learn it now, while there’s still time to nominate Clinton.

Posted by: Martin | April 14, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Someone hand him a shovel. It will make his job easier.

Posted by: s.b. | April 14, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Cindy — I agree with you. Besides he has been all over the map with gun conrol as well. Robert Novac wrote an article on this last week. Plus there are other pieces online. Basically he is trying to appear moderate on guns in Pa, just like he did in Idaho and Montana — yet he goes after Clinton for an innocent commercial describing her childhood. I think he is angry that SHE can actually claim a greater connection with rural and middle-class individuals than he can. I guess living in Hawaii and racing off the Columbia and Harvard and to Chicago did not give him the opportunity to make connections with poor people. “Organizing” people to vote for you is very different from living and interracting with them. Obama didn’t even have credibility among poor blacks until he won Iowa and his surrogates fabricated charges of racism in New Hampshire.

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

What Obama said is simply commonsense.
The saying goes that “A hungry man is an angry man”.
It happens to everyone. When people are down economically, they begin to lash out against things they would ordinarily tolerate if they were better off.
Why are some people just pretending not to understand what he meant?

Posted by: Geldo | April 14, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

@ crazy but not for hillary
Hillary is running for President, NOT BILL.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

9:29am and cnn in damage control mode for obama-He is on tv-now giving a speech I guess, trying to explain what he meant to say. Well, I look at it like this. He said what he meant to say
the first time. and what he said the first time would have stood. except for someone there and it got out. He is just doing what happened with the canadians and the bbc, telling the american people one thing and saying something else behind their back.
I am tired of obama making speeches.
everytime obama has to answer a question-he gets something wrong-and has to come back and make a speech.
he has not been vetted enough. and I have to refer to something shelby steel said. we do not know him-and while everyone is going gaga over him-he will say something or do something and the next person is going to turn around and say “hey, I didn’t know that how you felt, or is that what you mean, because I don’t feel that way”
and sure enough-every few days now-when obama is not being coached-or working from a prepared speech-we hear from the mind of obama-and people do not agree..
I the black people had not started out voting for him blindly, and I will say
if it had not been hillary clinton
this guy would not be the front runner.
If people in the media do not start to ask the hard hard questions of this guy we will not have the most qualified in office.
and for him now to be trying to turn this around and put this on hillary, just shows he is just a politician like all politicians of old-nothing new about him.
the things I question about him-is if he is the front-runner now-he has the media in pocket, the dnc, and all of the money from his handler, he has the black people voting blindly for him
and he still keeps making these “rookie”
type of mistakes-how electable is he?
and what about the long learning curve he will go through. the country will suffer-while he is trying to get it right.
wHe meant what he said the first time he said it. I am tired of obama’s backtracking-and trying to some how put it on Sen. Clinton.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

What I find infuriating his his lumping the economic success of the Clinton administration with the failures of the Bush administration in the same sentence. Just because Preident Bill is Hillary’s husband is no reason to lie. Democrats aren’t all as stupid as Obama appears to believe we are.

Posted by: beebop | April 14, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

What Obama said is simply commonsense.
The saying goes that “A hungry man is an angry man”.
It happens to everyone. When people are down economically, they begin to lash out against things they would ordinarily tolerate if they were better off.
Why are some people just pretending not to understand what he meant?

Posted by: Geldo | April 14, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Really, his comments go beyond ‘bitterness’ over factory closings to equating religious faith, gun ownership and rural culture to ignorance and racism and these ‘traditions’ that are handed down through generations. That’s the rub. Not just economic change of fortune but overall ‘wrong headedness’ of small town culture. Typical condescending liberal out to ‘educate’ the unwashed on the err of their ways. It’s the failed logic that if the government gives people back their factory jobs and they’ll stop going to church and give up their guns as if this is an ideal. Brutal.

Posted by: mp | April 14, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

obama said he wants to see a picture of Hillary hunting in a duck blind.
This is the same guy who got bent out of shape over a picture of himself.

Posted by: geevill | April 14, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Hi Crazy but Not for Hillary! Try these lies:
1. Selma and the Kennedys brought my parents together and they got married and had me…OOOPs…well, they got married during the Civil Rights Movement and the Kennedys helped some people come from Africa….it was a cute story though.
2. My people did NOT meet with the Canadians (the Nafta-Gate defense). OOOOPSS…..well, we did, but we did not say what the reporter said that we said. OOOOPS….well, we didnt say that we were just pandering, but we will not “fundamentally alter” Nafta (so why all the outcry over Nafta in the first place?). I will not seek the repeal of Nafta, because this would cause Americans to lose jobs. Nafta has caused Americans to lose jobs. I endorse extending Nafta to include Peru. I voted for the US-Oman Free Trade Agreement. I am not into protectionism (this one makes you dizzy!!!!)
3. I have disclosed all of my activities with Rezko. OOOPS….Well, now, I am going to be completely forthcoming about Rezko to set the record straight.
4. If I win the nomination I will talk to my opponent so that we can agree to public financing. OOOOPS — private money let’s the people talk. I want the private money.
5. I will not take your guns away from you. I believe that gun possession is a constitutional right. I believe in reasonable restraints on gun possession. In the past I supported very heavy gun restraints. The NRA gives me an F.
6. I will begin an IMMEDIATE troop withdrawl. OOOPS, I will consult with the military to see what is feasible.
7. Poor folk do not vote for me because they are angry at Bush and Clinton – so they are voting for Clinton instead (huh?). Because of their bitterness, they cling to religion, guns, xenophobia and racism, and you know I’m a young black guy so……do the math. OOOOOPS — I was just realizing how strong these people are and how tough times are.

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

We do not want a Marxist as our President. No to OBAMA.
We need real compassion that I see in Hillary.

Posted by: Paul | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

@ Geldo
“A hungry man is an angry man”
Because Obama is saying in front of “gluttonous” men (fatcats) that those “HUNGRY” MEN (blue collar workers) barely turn to their FAITH and GUNS when they are at their “hungriest” moment.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

@ s.b.
you are correct, it is from his marxist
views that he is in the crowd that he was in feeling free to express these feeling-this is what they believe.
I smacks right back to some of the upbring from his mother.
these are the extreme liberal views.
and I believe one of the ways they fix things-is welfare-foodstamps-etc.
you will not hear this group talking about-helping people start businesses etc.
in some way when I talk to people of this type thinking-they feel really sorry for the poor blacks and small town working class people.
so it was looking down on them-oh
poor things-it is so sad what can we do to help them.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

I’ve never posted here, but I’ve got to comment. All news, even of the most trite, uninformed, opinionated blog/rant variety out on the web usually has at least a stitch of new information in with the ocean of political spin and vitriol.
I’ve been reading your work, JT, for a while, but this post is the first one I’ve seen that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO OFFER BUT SPIN.
Not one ounce of, what’s the word I’m looking for… Oh yeah, NEWS!!!
What you and your bosses should be concerned about here is that, since you’ve offered no news in your post, it can be misconstrued easily that your 100% pure opinion and spin might be FACT, instead of the unadulturated INTERPRETATION that it actually is.
That, in my opinion, should be the jobs of campaigns, surrogates, politicians, and posters like myself.
I beleive you should adress this, and soon. Not looking for a retraction, but a word to the wise that you’ve clearly and completely crossed the threshold from reporting to campaigning in this post.

Posted by: fontapa | April 14, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

More BULL from the “UNITER” ! Those that are convinced that he is the “UNITER” , the “change” this country needs, worry me. His ego is monstrous.

Posted by: catherine in nm | April 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Obama says he is not perfect but says his opponents are not perfect so they should not be president.

Posted by: Paul | April 14, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Paul – I think this thing touched a nerve with him because he is in fact elitist. Also, he is so used to not having to explain ANYTHING to the media, he is trying to deflect and defame Clinton. LOL — and he talks about politics as usual. If I were Hillary, I’d make this into a commercial and say something like “is this the politics of change and hope”? I don’t think so…..

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

The comments from the pundits (and some of the folks posting here) make me laugh. It seems people are really clueless about voters in rural areas. My entire immediate and extended families fall into this category, and I can tell you they are bitter. And, they don’t believe the gov’t cares one bit about their struggles or will do anything to help them so guess what? Instead they vote on issue like religion, guns and immigration. If you asked them if this were true, none would deny it. Maybe people don’t want to hear this and maybe Obama should not have been so brutally honest, but that doesn’t make his statements any less true. To say his comments were condescending or elitist, shows complete ignorance.

Posted by: BT, IA | April 14, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

tony-that is great-it would be good if she could, but I believe because it is Sen. Clinton-and the media and talking heads are against her. they will try to turn it around on her. We all know the media is deep in the pocket of obama.
I think it is for the very reasons that are slowly coming to light about the mind of obama that his handlers and dnc, pelosi and co. all want sen. clinton to pull out-
To me everything about obama and his handlers smack at backroom dealings and dirty tricks-

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

LET’S GET THIS CLEAR OBAMA SUPPORTERS. THESE ARE THE OFFENSIVE COMMENTS THAT CAN’T BE SPINNED….
“cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
ESPECIALLY THE WORD “CLING”.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Paul, I totally agree with your linking of Obama’s to Marxist Theology.’ Religion is the opium of the people” is the core of his beliefs and to preach to his feelings under the guise of feeling our pain is insulting. Marxist Theology was replaced by Leninist Communist Dogma. This is what Obma will bring to Washington. We as Americans must not buy this!

Posted by: Kenny from CT. | April 14, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

What is so telling about how elite and out of touch Obama is can be seen in his defending his comments by saying that he is shocked by all the uproar over what he said! You see he doesn’t see what the big deal is, he thinks that he acurately stated how working people feel and how they live, so what’s all the fuss all about! You see in the final analysis he just does not get it and thats why working class people are not drawn to his campaign! All the republicans need to do know is show him wind surfing and sipping wine and the picture will be complete! Now Obama will see what happens when someone labels you in a way that you think is unfair or untrue! This will be a bitter pill for Democrats to swallow this fall!

Posted by: russell | April 14, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

It seems to me that Jim Webb, Bill Clinton, and Barack
Obama had the same exact intention when they said
their respective comments. The only difference, to
me, is that Webb and Clinton said theirs in an Op-Ed,
and a book, respectively. Thus, they had time to
fine-tune it to be politically safe, whereas Obama
said his off the cuff… thus, not politically safe,
but nonetheless, with the same intent.
Again, here’s Bill Clinton in his book.
BILL CLINTON in his book
“If [Republicans] could cut funding for Medicare,
Medicaid, education, and the environment, middle-class
Americans would see fewer benefits from their tax
dollars, feel more resentful paying taxes, and become
even more receptive to their appeals for tax cuts and
their strategy of waging campaigns on divisive social
and cultural issues like abortion, gay rights, and
guns.”
And here’s Jim Webb in the WSJ Op-Ed.
The politics of the Karl Rove era were designed to
distract and divide the very people who would
ordinarily be rebelling against the deterioration of
their way of life. Working Americans have been
repeatedly seduced at the polls by emotional issues
such as the predictable mantra of “God, guns, gays,
abortion and the flag” while their way of life shifted
ineluctably beneath their feet.

Posted by: David | April 14, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Oh BT/IA – I grew up in a small town myself, and that’s rubbish. Of course people are bitter and of course this can impact political preference. This does not change the tone or impact of his comments. They were very condescending – and I think it is very telling that Obama didn’t make the comments in PA — but instead, in front of rich donors.

Posted by: tony | April 14, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

beebop: You nailed it exactly. It’s for that reason that many of us will not support Obama as the nominee. Where is the DNC while TEAMOBAMA gets to tear down the only Democratic administration to be re-elected to a full 8 year term.
Our economy looked great, people felt good about their prospects, diversity was promoted.
The slamming of the Clintons by the way began with those offensive comments last summer by Michelle Obama “If Hillary can’t run her own house, ……….” Again, where was and is the DNC?

Posted by: Where's the DNC | April 14, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Let’s get someone who spent ZERO amount of time in Washington to be our next President.
Hmmmm….Governor of Texas….President Bush anyone?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

people from all states left to vote
if you are dem. that want to win the white house-do not vote for obama
he will not win.
we all know sen. clinton and the baggage she brings -we know what the rep. are going to throw at her.
This guy obama-we do not know
the larry sinclair issue is still out there and bound to blow up-
and even his current supporters are going to turn around and say “WHAT?”
let us go into the GE fighting with the devil we do know-rather than the one we don’t.-He is going to keep suprising us.
and I don’t think it is going to be pretty. I am black and until obama-I would never have heard of rev. wright and that stuff he has been preaching for the last 20 years.
if black people didn’t vote blindly for him-he would not be in the position he is in.
He has caused black churches to be put in the wrong light
he has caused small town people to be put in the wrong light.
If we continue with this guy-it will probably by another 50 years before a person of color can become a president.
and by the way-can any of you remember in presidential elections of past
al and jesse being so quiet.
it is because the word went out in the black community-via the black talk radio stations-”don’t say anything that might cause the brother any trouble”
it is to bad he could not have taken that advice-because it seems now everytime he opens his mouth now-he gets into trouble.
a president cannot run the country on speeches.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Looks like it is time for another 30 min. lecture from Mr. Obama about the social and cultural behavior of small town america! Can’t wait!

Posted by: russell | April 14, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Not to sound elitist, but if we’ve ever needed proof that our crumbling education system is the lynchpin of all of our problems in America, I submit to you this panacea (that means “cure all” for some of you posters): Improve Reading Comprehension.
I read the original statement, and was able to understand instantly that he was talking about our tendancy in America to vote about hot-button issues like gun-rights, religious/moral items like abortion and gay rights, immigration, and other things that keep us divided. We do this because the REAL issues (which are deeply involved in these other pet issues) like economic disparity and social justice are issues we don’t trust our politicians to do anything about.
I didn’t need clarification, it was OBVIOUS on the first read. This reading comprehension thing is a HUGE problem in America, and it happens constantly. This forces our best and brightest politicians to dumb down their comments, or worse yet, not speak out at all, lest they be misunderstood.
What’s worse by far though, are politicians who obviously understand precisely what they read (or they wouldn’t have law degrees and be in the positions of power they are in) or even news reporters and bloggers, for whom writing is their profession, who for their own political or career gains(read as advertising profit JT!) pretend not to understand and WILLFULLY AND INTENTIONALLY TWIST COMMENTS, and take advantage of the mass ignorance of the populace.
Kind of funny, when you think about it. BO gives a speach that distills down to “You’ve been had America!” and then his point is proven when we all get had again by Clinton’s twisting of the record and his words.
Next time folks, stop, read, breath, think, and if you don’t get it, talk with folks you know and trust, and for Pete’s sake, don’t just take the media and politicians word for it! Make your own determination, or you’ll just be had again.

Posted by: fontapa | April 14, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

The problem for Obama is how does he “spin” comments that he made in private, to his BILLIONAIRE supporters, when Obama assumed there was no media around to record his comments. Obama was explaining to his BILLIONAIRE supporters, why their money which is being used to outspend Hillary in PA 5 to 1, can’t buy Obama a win in PA! Obama explained exactly why he thinks small town Americans won’t vote for him – they don’t “get” him. The elite rich democrats want to cram Obama down our throats as the democratic nominee, and the media are buying into the packaging and marketing of Obama as well. Why can’t billionaires buy an election? Certainly Obama’s people are bullying and buying superdelegate votes. Maybe because we live in a democracy, and we can only hope that at the end of the day, each of our votes do really count.

Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

How did the BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS hear it? Mostly it seeme like this…
Obama’s Remarks In SF: Not What I Heard
http://momocrats.typepad.com/momocrats/2008/04/obamas-remarks.html
So please, newspeople, don’t talk about the people in that room like you know us, or like you know why we support Obama. Don’t talk about what Obama said or didn’t say because you weren’t there. You didn’t see the sadness in his eyes, the sadness of knowing what it’s like to grow up second-class in this country. The sadness of knowing that this didn’t have to happen in the greatest, most resourceful country on earth. The sadness of knowing that our individual success stories are far outnumbered and overshadowed by the ones of people who didn’t make it.

Posted by: kravitz | April 14, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Jake,
I think it too bad Obama didn’t stick with his comments about economic crisis being related to xenophobia or vice versa.
This is a universal phenomenon; but of course Americans tends to think that they are unique. It is a well-known fact that lot of Americans blame Mexicans for stealing their jobs. Do you remember the aftermath of Katrina when African-Americans and Latinos were fighting over jobs?
Few months ago, Switzerland had their elections. The right wing Nationalists made substantial gains on a platform of Xenophobia that blamed the Swiss social problems on immigrants from Africa and Eastern Europe.
Why is it that Americans cannot admit those facts to themselves? I think that would be a first step in dealing with some of those issues.

Posted by: Lance D. | April 14, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

@ kravitz
I think the comments would be more effective if they were made by Hillary, instead of by her husband four years ago.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

russell, Who pays for the tv time obama is given to make speeches at us trying to explain-what he really meant to say?
_________
and I think it is disgraceful
but somewhere, in some office cubicle
some reporters are sitting trying to dig up something on Sen. Clinton
instead of trying to vet this man more.
it will be how can we make sen. clinton look bad out of this.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Hillary is out there making every small thing bigger. She had better explain her relathionship with NAFTA.She first supported it and now she has changed her position saying that she opposed fron the start. SHE WILL CONTINUE LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHE IS NOT HONEST TO US.I KNOW SHE WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED. BUT I AM NOT SURE THAT WE WILL EVER TRUST HER.

Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | April 14, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Hillary is out there making every small thing bigger. She had better explain her relathionship with NAFTA.She first supported it and now she has changed her position saying that she opposed fron the start. SHE WILL CONTINUE LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHE IS NOT HONEST TO US.I KNOW SHE WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED. BUT I AM NOT SURE THAT WE WILL EVER TRUST HER.

Posted by: I.A.T. Smith | April 14, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

It appears that those who are offended by Obama’s remarks are not the working class who have lost their jobs, but elitist who have nothing better to do then spend their time worrying about why Hillary isn’t winning and since they can not figure out why she is loosing they lash out towards Obama. The news isn’t a whole lot better; the way the news covers Obama about his remarks reminds me of when movie critics criticizes a movie and it still becomes a block buster.

Posted by: The Unshrub | April 14, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

The sadness is that you really want all of us hard working blue collared democrats to buy into all of your elitist whining c–p! Sounds like you’ve been listening to Rev. Wright for too long…or some other insightful elite thinker just like him…

Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Where’s the DNC, you are exactly right! Six months ago I was vowing I’d never vote for a Republican again – and here I am now saying to h**l with the Democratic party!
The Clinton years were the best years economically of my entire working life. I can say that without Bill Clinton I would not have the money I have today – without a doubt! Next to JFK I consider Bill Clinton to be the greatest president of my lifetime.
I’m ashamed of Obama and the DNC tearing down the Clintons as they are. We are seeing an attempt by the far-left wing of the party to takeover the party. Yes, the elitists – Kennedy, Kerry, and Daschle.
Well I say go to it. I wish Hillary would tell them all to go to h**l today and launch and Independent campaign with Edwards as her VP. They would be absolutely unstoppable and I personally would gather signatures here in Indiana to put them on the ballot in November.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 14, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Okay Jake, you’re spinning that a bit too far. He did not say those were traditions – he only referenced hunting as a tradition.
Also, it’s still the truth! People cling to *gasp* xenophobia and other negative emotions when they’re hard pressed economically.
It’s amazing how those in the media want to spin this to make it a story. I only wish you guys had been half as critical as the spin of George Bush.

Posted by: Zora | April 14, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

This is evidence of a true misstatement by Obama as opposed to the outright lies by the Clintons! Go ahead and shoot your Canadian whiskey, be against NAFTA while doing the ole wink and nod while your husband deposits $800,000 into your joint bank account, and remember to duck at the constant sniper fire that surrounds you. THE CLINTONS ARE A DISGRACE!
OBAMA/WEBB ’08

Posted by: Roxanne | April 14, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Between the original post, the ensuing comments, and the media salivating over this so-called gaffe like somebody threw raw meat to a pack of rabid dogs, THIS is the kind of thing that makes me BITTER.

Posted by: Zora | April 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

He was telling his wealthy donors why rural PA voters weren’t going for him, explaining his lack of support there to rural people’s bigotry.
Also, it is very patronizing of you to define “panacea” as if you know the average reader does not understand the word. If you really thought people would not understand it, why didn’t you just use another word? Next time, use the words you want and let the reader look it up if they want to instead of being condescending.

Posted by: Mawm | April 14, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Saying people are BITTER is not the problem.
Saying Quote -
they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
End Quote.
This is saying that these people only go to church, cling to there guns and do not trust other people who are not like them BECAUSE THEY ARE BITTER WITH THE GOVERNMENT. Who the hell gave him the right to judge anyone or speak for others!

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

jgaw: Obama is wasting his time trying to dig himself out of this hole! All he has to do is wait for Mattheews and Olberman to come to his defense and they will make all the talking points his campaign put out! I am sure Mr. Olberman will treat us to one of his famous Special Comments that will explain how hypocritical Hillary is and how Obama was correct in his assessment of small town america! The MSM have so much invested in Obama they must and will do everything that they can to explain and dismiss the improtance of what he has said. The problem is that many working americans have come to view the media as being as out of touch with them as obama is and that is what the republicans will exploit this fall! Remember G.W.I and his exchange with Dan Rather?

Posted by: russell | April 14, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

how many times are we going to explain away what obama says as misstatements?
we do not know the guy, and eventually even you his supporters are going to hear something from this man-that you will not be able to explain away.
Why don’t you save yourselves-the worry of “I wonder what he is going to mistate next-that I will have to try and explain”
Many of you (really not knowing him)
voted against Sen. Clinton-more that you voted for him.
he is not electable-and he will not win in nov.-the rep are going to cream him’
he-is his own worst enemy right now.
and if he is creating this much of a problem for himself now-what will he do in the white house. I mean he has got everything going for him and he still keeps messing up. there has to be some accounting for that. eventually we are going to get to the lack of experience word. and it will start to sink in with everybody.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Obama supporters stop acting naive!
The PROBLEM IS NOT THE BITTER REMARKS, IT IS THESE…..”cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

How come everything with Obama is a mis-speak!
He studied Marxism in College
He calls the Typical White person racist
He believes his mentors Anti-American rants
He worked with a Slum Lord to get his mansion on the backs of poor Blacks in Chicago
He has dinner and strategic political meetings with an admitted terrorist
He plays the Race Card
He plays the economic card
Now he calls middle class Americans Bitter because they supposedly cling to guns (which is used for hunting or protection) and because they cling to Religion.
He sounds like a Marxist of the worse kind, his true colors are showing.
He is for the middleclass and the poor, wants to raise their taxes while he sits in a Mansion with billionaire Liberal elitists. What a Hypocrit!
If it sounds like a duck and walks like a duck it must be a Duck (Marxist)

Posted by: NotoLibs | April 14, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

If making $109m after leaving office, ducking imaginary sniper fire, taking $800,000 from the Colombians in private and speaking against the deal in public is what makes a good Blue Collar Democrat, then we have to Vote Clinton now.
If growing up in a single home, living on food stamps, paying of huge students loans for years, working with the poor for over 20 years, generating interest in politics, making mistakes and apologizing. Vote Obama now.
If you need someone who has no clue on the economy, has no clue on who America is fighting in Iraq, if you need someone who thinks the down turn in the economy is our fault and we must bail out ourselves. Vote the Cyborg (Sen. McCain).
If downing whiskey, and drinking mugs of beer makes a good President, vote for me, not Hillary. I’m a good Irish man from Dublin, Ireland with loads of drinking experience.
Top of the money yer.

Posted by: Owen | April 14, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

OBAMA is one of the WASHINGTON INSIDER, what Obama has been done to help those small town bitter people. His voted mostly present.
Shame on you Obama!

Posted by: Tindh | April 14, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

To Aengil
Jake is not putting a spin on anything.These are Obama’s words NOT Jake’s.
Quote -
they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
End Quote.
Do not blame others for Obama’s RUDE Comments.

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Barack Obama has footage which I would like to know if Charlie Rose or ABC will uncover and rebroadcast. Here, he makes the same type of point in more detail. It’s from November 2004.
“If we don’t have plausible answers on the economic front, and if we appear to be condescending toward those traditions that are giving their lives some stability, then they’re going to opt for at least that party that seems to be speaking to the things that…provide them with something solid to stand on.”

Posted by: kravitz | April 14, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Roxanne – was it not Obama who sent his man up to Canada to say he really is NOT against NAFTA? it was not Clinton.
Oh and now we sit back and watch our good ally Columbia be destroyed because the libs in Congress went back on their word!!
I hope Hispanics wake up and see that the libs are not their friends!!

Posted by: NotoLibs | April 14, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Well we have Obama saying Hillary is acting like Annie Oakley, I wonder if Obama knows the story of Annie.
A poor woman that made something out of her self a small town gal, that use to hunt to support her sibling and her mother in hard times.
Maybe Obama needs to go and do a course in US History to understand what is the spirit of a true American.

Posted by: SJ | April 14, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Kennedy is still bitter that he LOST the democratic nomination to Jimmy Carter AT THE CONVENTION in 1976! Kerry is bitter that his BILLIONAIRE WIFE and all of his BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS couldn’t buy him a spot in the white house while he windsurfed in Nantucket! Dean is bitter about his yaaahhhh moment! Obama is vacationing in the Virgin Islands, sipping wine with BILLIONAIRES IN SAN FRANSISCO and talking about the bitter, small town Americans that “cling” to the constitution and their faith because they are bitter about the candidate who is all about POLITICS OF CHANGE, IS REALLY JUST ANOTHER ELITE HARVARD GRAD, ABOUT TO JOIN THE BITTER LOSER PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS CLUB!!!!

Posted by: rs | April 14, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

A new poll just came out that had them tied a week ago in Penn. Clinton is up by 20 points now.
One of the reasons given is not the bitter gate controversy but an oversaturation of tv ads by Obama and a backlash against them.
I wondered if that would happen? Sometimes you can have too many tv ads.
A very interesting shift in public Opinion in Penn nonetheless.
20 point sin one week is stagerring.

Posted by: s.b. | April 14, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Mr. obama-has not lived the american experience the way most american have.
mr. obama has not lived the black american experience the way most of us have. He has studied it.
so no he would not know the true story of annie oakley
If he had watched “American Experience
on PBS a few weeks ago he would know to compare a woman to annie oakley is really a compliment

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

To Elizabeth
You can try and spin Obama’s comments any way you want but they were RUDE and out of touch with people.
Who the hell gave Obama the right to speak for others and to say how they feel or why.
Obama is Rasict and a Liar!

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Tapper’s not spinning it — he’s just following through on Obama’s spin, showing it’s bogus. Obama wasn’t praising small-town values, he was stereotyping small-town small-mindedness, as he sees it. And this was all an attempt to explain why these people aren’t voting for him, if you’ll remember. Why else would someone not vote for The Great One? It’s definitely you that has a problem, not him. It’s definitely you who misunderstood, not them (him or Michelle, or Rev Wright or Goolsbee). It’s always you, not him, don’t you understand?

Posted by: Vnd | April 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

and actually-annie oakley still has relatives living
he cannot win-no votes from
fl
mi
typical white person
Sen. Clinton supporters
Sen Clinton black supporters who refuse to drink anymore kool-aid
and annie oakley’ relatives

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Elitist to the bone. He often makes references to understanding poverty given residing in south chicago. Give me a break….he lives in his 1.5 million dollar mansion (let’s not forget how he acquired this mansion) next to the worst slum in Chicago. Yep, he knows poverty but he can live right next door to the impoverished and up until last year (timely motive) give 1% of earnings to charity.

Posted by: catherine in nm | April 14, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

@fontapa
These are Obama’s words:
“cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Why is it that liberals can never see the forest for the trees? Putting guns and religion in the same enumeration as “anti-immigrant sentiment”, and “antipathy to people you aren’t like them” is exactly the kind of percieved attitude Democrats have been fighting for a long time. The line goes like this: Democrats think the only reason people have guns or go to church is because they are crazy. But now, whether Obama really feels that way are not, he has stepped into that pile, and is trying to wipe it off on Clinton.
I do, however, feel that this statement was a window into how Obama really feels about these voters. Just look at the statements he made just prior to this one. He states that one of the reasons people aren’t listening is because he is a 46 yo Black man, to the laughter of the crowd. He is blaming people’s bigotry for why his candidacy is having trouble there, and your contention that only the media used the word “bigotry” betrays your lack of reading comprehesion, or your unwillingness to admit the truth. Both “anti-immigrant sentiment”, and “antipathy to people you aren’t like them” are ways of saying bigot in this context.
You seem like a aeryodyte person. Start supporting Clinton or suffer 4 years of Republican rule.

Posted by: Mawm | April 14, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

To TT
If that is what Obama was saying THEN HE WOULD HAVE SAID THAT. Who do you Obama supporters think your fooling. We are not sheep like the obama followers. But you keep drinking that Obama Kool-Aid and keep believing his Rude comments,Rasist comments and lies.

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Well too bad for Obama if he does not know the American experience he should if he want to be POTUS.
All he has tired to do is show Hillary in a bad light giving the impression that Annie Oakley was someone as Americans we should be in disdain of, it just shows how ignorant Obama is on the issues.
Either way as a leader what impression is Obama trying to give the younger one that may be following him about persons that are part of the history of America?

Posted by: SJ | April 14, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

If making $109m after leaving office, ducking imaginary sniper fire, taking $800,000 from the Colombians in private and speaking against the deal in public is what makes a good Blue Collar Democrat, then we have to Vote Clinton now. If downing whiskey, and drinking mugs of beer makes a good President, vote for Hillary.
If you need someone who has no clue on the economy, has no clue on who America is fighting in Iraq, if you need someone who thinks the down turn in the economy is our fault and we must bail out ourselves. Vote the Cyborg (Sen. McCain).
If growing up in a single home, living on food stamps, paying of huge students loans for years, working with the poor for over 20 years, generating interest in politics, making mistakes and apologizing, fighting for the American people, ending the war and fighting to improve America’s image abroad. Vote Obama now. He is in touch with the ordinary American and he knows what it takes to bring about the change we need in America.

Posted by: Owen | April 14, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

He speaks to the same monied interests that killed the thriving Jazz community in SF. The ‘urban renewal’ destroyed black owned businesses and jazz clubs on Fillmore St.
While laughing with them about what PA clings to.
Are you planning some ‘urban renewal’ for the poor folks….because history proves that never favors the poor folks but rather the monied interests. Like those on billionaire row.
Typical hypocritical Harvard elitist….going to help the poor with the same people who made them that way by stealing their businesses.

Posted by: Cali girl knows the truth | April 14, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Mawm -
“Why is it that liberals can never see the forest for the trees?”
1) See, this is the thing, you keep quoting the only part of the speach that gets presented to you in the media. That’s what “out of context” means.
2) I apologize. I thought we were discussing the democratic nomination. Your use of the categorization “liberal” belies your republicanism and/or campaign/party connection. Wouldn’t matter what he had to say, would it? I’m guessing not.
Funny thing is, I’m not a liberal.
Conservative – one who confuses and enflames voters by fears for their security, attempts to erode their faith, and other smoke and mirrors issues to cover up for their carpetbagging once in office.
Liberal – one who confuses and enflames voters by fears of wanton warmongering, attempts to erode their civil liberties, and other smoke and mirrors issues to cover up for their carpetbagging once in office.
And the one guy who points out that this is going on and offers a chance (admittedly a gamble) to change that, is getting attacked for pointing it out.
American Citizen – one who is under attack from liberals and conservatives to line their pockets, and needs to wake up and take back power.

Posted by: fontapa | April 14, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I think what really makes the working class voters mad is who he made his remarks to.

Posted by: Bishop | April 14, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

well friends,
the obama media in the pocket-deal just keeps steaming along
this am we heard all of obama speech
trying to explain what he said-speaking to man. in pa.
but just now when Sen. Clinton started to speak-they lost the feed.
could be genuine-but they have been so in the pocket for him-it is easy to suspect.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

“making mistakes and apologizing”
Where is his apology for:
“cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
He tripped over his own feet.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Is this guy now running for “Comedian In Chief”

Posted by: nick | April 14, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

When Hillary was speaking in Pittsburgh, this morning, all the networks went blank. Is this the sign we’ve been waiting for? Even the TV stations are tired of her rants and double speak.

Posted by: Oretga | April 14, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

cali girl
YOU BET he and his group are going to destroy something dear to black and poor people-I lived through it in the late sixties and seventies.
so he is going to leave 15mil off universal healthcare
and the rest will not get it either
because he and his group will start you said it right urban renewal-foodstamps
and pad the welfare rolls again.
there will be not businesses started by the people in those communities.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

And someone please explain this to me. Why is it Obama can make political hay with what Hillary says but when she does the same…it’s shame on her?
What a hypocrite!

Posted by: Cali girl knows the truth | April 14, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

@ Colin
Bill Clinton is running for the Presidency again?
THE DAYS OF PROSPERITY AND PEACE WILL BE BACK?

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

I was born in small town Iowa. The Regan years took away the small farm and turned it into a corporate entity. Farmers were going into Savings and Loans and shooting bankers as they watched farms that had been in their families for generations taken in one fell swoop. Factories closed doors and left nothing much in the way of industry. Go to my small town during the Bush Sr. years, the Clinton years, and the Bush Jr. years and one would see that during all their terms what used to be attractive, middle class neighborhoods became dotted with Meth labs and burned out whites. The one black neighborhood filled with the children of Bloods and Crypts (gangs) that migrated from Chicago and other urban areas to build up a crack trade. The blacks ranging from the age of 50s to the teen years are on it, and many are unemployed and on it. It is sad to see a place that once provided so many with a nice, safe life has now gone to the dogs. And the sad reality is many were goaded into supporting Bush Jr., both black and white, because of Christian values and the gun laws. They ignorantly voted against their own economic security. I left there at the age of 23. I am now 54. I am bitter and hate what I see in regards to my own family that has remained there. Most are on drugs or alcohol, and many are in and out of the prison system.
If Barack were to tell the whole truth, he would have said they cling to guns, religion and alcohol and drugs. He has often said that sometimes he will tell us what we do not want to hear. Sad reality is often the truth hurts. I am bitter about that particular truth and so are my family members who grew up as devout Methodist and are now reduced to unemployed or underemployed drug addicts and alcoholics, many with federal drug convictions. I do have a beacon of hope though because Iowans are not getting duped anymore by policies that hold the guise of American values but really support a corporate raping.

Posted by: C. Smith | April 14, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

@ jgaw
I THINK HILLARY IS TALKING ON CNN AGAIN!

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

The sound you hear is Obama flushing himself down the porcelain fixture.

Posted by: Aston | April 14, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Obama Quote -
they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
End Quote.
This is saying that these people only go to church, cling to there guns and do not trust other people who are not like them BECAUSE THEY ARE BITTER WITH THE GOVERNMENT. Who the hell gave him the right to judge anyone or speak for others!

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Portray him as a Marxist if you like, but I’d be surprised if that has legs. The simple fact is he tried to talk one group of people up by putting another group down. That’s class baiting if you want the least incindiary term, but most people consider it a lack of class, or simpler, rude.
From the point that he put his hand on Edwards in the debate making the joke that no one was paying attention to the lone white guy, he showed his critical character flaw: condescencion. After that it was only a matter of time before it began to shine through like old bad paint under fresh new paint.
No amount of paint covers up character flaws.
America is finally getting to know Obama.

Posted by: len | April 14, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

@ C. Smith
i’m from a very small town in Texas as is my whole family and no one has become ALCOHOLICS OR DRUG ADDICTS.
please speak for yourself and do not make generalizations.

Posted by: John | April 14, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

JGAW
I have read alot of what you have posted over the course of these last few weeks. You don’t represent yourself as a black person in other commentaries.
You come across as a republican, a conservative and a person who resents black people. Those traits may mean you are black, but I think they indicate you have conflicting posts.
If you are worried about black people not thinking, why would you post at political punch? Why not go to the Root or to black america web to influence those blacks you feel are pushing Obama over the top?
Perhaps you should use a different handle for the black comments and use jgaw for the conserve the status quo comments. When you use the same name for a varied number of ethnic references, it makes it difficult to believe you.
Otherwise you are doing some damage to your candidate Clinton or McCain. You don’t have to like Obama, but doing so along racial lines creates the wrong sort of message.

Posted by: Genna | April 14, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Genna
Can you give us more of your psychic insights?

Posted by: Aston | April 14, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Obama sure does have this proclivity in which he thinks he can sweet talk his way out of everything.
He should ride around in a charter bus called “The Sweet Talk Express”.
Can anyone link to one story where Obama takes responsibility for his words (just words) or actions?

Posted by: OxyCon | April 14, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Barack Obama spews out rambling epithets such as “typical white person,” makes reference to how people are “bred,” defines small town life as “bitter,” disparages the right to bear arms, and degrades religious freedom.
In essence, the truth about Obama’s political mindset is being revealed, speech by speech and word by word.
And, as usual, Obama campaign surrogates and supporters have rushed to try and explain this latest exposure of the true Obama.
As with George W. Bush, when Barack Obama continues to engage the public without the aid of a scripted speech, he exposes the imminent danger of any regime he would lead.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 14, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

All I can say is the true Obama is slowly seeping out and Amazon Traveler truly hits it on the nail….!
Ann Bush
Columbus, Ohio

Posted by: Ann Bush | April 14, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

hibbiejibbie
Consider the source!

Posted by: Just curious | April 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

To hibbiejibbie
What the hell does MONEY Or PARTY have to do with this. You Obama supporters are unbelievable. When you know he is WRONG you attack others. I should not be surprised as this is exactly how Obama handles his mistakes to.(BY ATTACKING OTHERS)

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

genna,
I am very glad that jgaw posts here. Keep up the posts, jgaw. We need and appreciate your input.

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

What the Obama crowd has failed to recognize is the same mistake made by college students in their limited consideration of the world as a whole.
In short, the closed environment of the college campus may suggest that all one has to do is believe in change to make it a reality.
The truth lies in consideration of the real world and is not so simple as dorm life, morning classes, and cafeteria food.
In the general election, the reality of the electorate majority that will not be fooled by mantras and feel good politics dooms the Obama hype.

Posted by: Jayhawk | April 14, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

genna,
I had signed off, I am glad I can back to post one more comment-so I have read your comments to me.
Are you of the mind that all black people should think and vote alike?
If you want to know I consider my self a moderate.-”Moderation in all things”
is my motto.
I would love to and have tried to deal with mr. obama on the issues.
but it seems to me-it is mr. obama and his people who keep the race thing alive.
and when I say the attempt to silence people who support Sen.Clinton is a disgrace it is true.
I really am capable and do post on other sights-(but thank you for your suggestion, anyway)
I do not read your post regularly on here.
There is no conflict to me-I speak to what I see, hear and believe.
The main thread that runs through all of my comments is my lack of trust of Mr. obama, and feeling he is underqualified.-especially when next to Sen. Clinton. I do not have any real dislike of obama-(I do not know him)
and unlike the people who post such hateful things about Sen. Clinton (they do not know her either-it has just become sport-to bash Sen. Clinton)
I think he is misrepresenting himself
I don’t think he is ready to be president
and I resent the fact that because of his underqualifications-he will be a hinderance to future people of color becoming president.
To your comment about going to other post-I do-but just like on here-the people are drunk with the obama kool-aid
Obama should have been vetted more.
I truly believe if most of the people black and white who have already cast their vote for him-had known then what they know now-he would not be in the lead.
and as for anything else
I am a citizen just like anybody else
and I do love the country I was born in
and I am upset and how bush got into office-and what has happened since.
and I see the same thing happening again.
and I don’t want that to happen
I have considered the good and the bad to the best of my ability-and I have decided for Me-she is the best candidate to help our country heal the ills that it ails from
and that is all I want.
do I want a black president one day, sure
If I thought mr. obama were even just half as smart as Sen.Clinton-I would throw my vote to him-just to say-if he has a shot at it I will help him.
but he is not half as smart as hillary.
I have listened to both of them.
and I am a 53 year old black woman
and the only dog I have in this fight
is it is time for our country to get back on the right track.
Just as Sen. Clinton said before
and I believe she said it right-
“The world is holding it’s breath, hoping we get it right this time”
I just want us to get it right this time
and for me-Sen. Hillary Clinton is the one.
(the emotion I feel-is not-I want a woman or a black man- I just want the most qualified one-Sen. Clinton.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

When people vote Republican because of wedge issues, you’re getting screwed economically because you get economic policies that favor the haves and have mores.
It’s about time we have a politician like Obama who speaks the truth.

Posted by: AkaDad | April 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

On DRUDGE now:
“McCain would prefer to go up against Clinton in the general election, insiders reveal.”
LOL!
No wonder! He’d WIN THAT ONE!

Posted by: Greta | April 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

To Hudson
KEEP DREAMING because that is all Obama and you can do now!

Posted by: Steve Moore | April 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

mr. obama comments were an answer to a question about why the rural and sm town people were not getting him
and everyone know what his answer was.
What I am thinking about is-it just may not be that the people are bitter and cling to guns and god-(his way of putting the not getting him-off on them)
It could be they get him-and they are not buying it.
They have heard his message and they don’t think he is the answer.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

They have to go crazy spinning this thing.
Does not look good.

Posted by: Joan | April 14, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

McCain prefers Hillary, because they are friends. Not because of some evil plan. They are genuinely good friends.

Posted by: Joan | April 14, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

better check into who owns those newspapers before you get all happy.
newspapers,mag, tv, etc. are sometimes owned by the same outfit.
and if that is the case it could be they had to go with the company flow.

Posted by: jgaw@comcast.net | April 14, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Obama had the temerity to speak the truth and Hillary’s frantic spinnning will backfire on her. She’s already made herself look ridiculous taking shots of whiskey and talking up her love of firearms.

Posted by: SpaceCat | April 14, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Elitism? Dismissiveness?
” Those of us who have tried to have a career, tried to have an independent life, certainly somebody like myself…you know, I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.”
– Hillary Clinton, 1992, dismissing stay-at-home moms

Posted by: PA Woman | April 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

America, America…
It seems the PC Police is totally run by right wingers these days…
Obama, the NEW Straight Talk Express!

Posted by: kurt | April 14, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Handi
Obama wasn’t lying.
The only way corporations can donate is through PAC’s. Obama doesn’t accept PAC’s. Those donations you’re referring to are from individual donors that happen to work for corporations.
I hope that helps.

Posted by: AkaDad | April 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

“i guess you are admitting his remarks were a big mistake.”
What I’m saying is that we are not losing our jobs and incomes because of Hillary’s or Obama’s remarks during some speech.
We are in this situation because the Clinton administration gaves us NAFTA, where Hillary lobbied for, and because Hillary is running her campaign had in hand with her husband and Mark Penn, some the greatest free trade lobbyists in America, who both defend foreign interests and stimulate the shipping of jobs from small town America. That is the big scandal of the Clinton campaign. They are the Judases of small town America!

Posted by: PA Woman | April 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

OK, Now I’m bitter. I’m bitter because every talking head I see and hear is trying to spin Obama’s comments in his favor. And as usual, they proceed to criticize Hillary for not defending Obama. Please help me understand this. Same thing with the muslim question on 60 minutes. Hillary answered that question, “No”, 3 times. That wasn’t good enough. Rachel Maddow was still mad at her for not settling this issue for Obama. Help!

Posted by: cappamore | April 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

I’m bitter because you’re bitter. You’re bitter because Obama says you’re bitter. You weren’t bitter before you were bitter. It’s only after you first became bitter that you’re bitter.
So, put away your six-shooter and stop your anti-immigrant nonsense.

Posted by: S | April 14, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Obama more than anyone else should never talk in any form about small town America, since Obama did nothing for small town Illinois or Iowa when Maytag closed their doors and shipped the jobs to Mexico!
I am sorry, Obama did give a speech to the workers and then went to see the Directors of Maytag, Lester and James Crown and Obama happily accepted money from them for his political gain and never brought up anything about the Maytag close-down!
Now he jokes about how mad small town Americans can become?
Senator Obama wake up and see, you have been exposed and it is going to now haunt you like the loss of those jobs you let move away due to Maytag while you basted in the money the Crown family gave you!
And a check of your national campaign finance commitee has one James Crown as a memeber of it, is Mr. Crown a replacement for your jailed former money man REZKO?
This isn’t about Clinton, but about Obama, so to say a thing that is off track towards Clintons proves just how phoney the Obamabots really are in the so called campaign of change and being above the expectations!

Posted by: Clear Choice | April 14, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Elitism? Dismissiveness?
” Those of us who have tried to have a career, tried to have an independent life, certainly somebody like myself…you know, I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.”
– Hillary Clinton, 1992, dismissing stay-at-home moms
Interesting, to say the least. I’m writing this from my livingroom, where I’m a stay-at-home dad. My wife with the Masters Degree is the successful breadwinner for our family. We share each others last names, and only resorted to marriage (rather than life partners) due to the discriminatory unbalanced legal rights it provides us.
My wife’s a die-hard feminist the likes of which I’ve never met elsewhere. One of her many degrees is in Women’s studies. Our daughter will be to, if we have any say in the matter.
In short, she’s the poster-woman for the product of the feminist movement. She’s also NOT voting for Hillary. Sure, she’s an Obama supporter, but she’d rather not vote at all than vote for Hillary.
Why? Because she can. Because my wife beleives in the female empowerment that Hillary clearly only pretends to. Because she sees Hillary for what she is, an opportunist with no ethics or substance.
Maybe Hillary truly is Anti-trade, anti-war, pro-civil rights, etc. The problem is, it’s equally possible that she’s the polar opposite on every issue. We will never know. She has so many flip-flops, lies, and conflicts of interest that it’s impossible to tell which way she truly leans.
The truth is, the Republicans will use this MOUNTAIN of baggage and lack of credibility to destroy her completely. Whatever Obama does wrong, he’d have to screw up and make divisive statements for the next twenty years to provide the Republicans with the kind of material THEY ALREADY HAVE on Clinton.
You can say he’s untested, inexperienced, whatever (I disagree) but wouldn’t you rather take a chance on maybe winning against McBush than nominate Hillary and guarantee defeat?
I don’t beleive in voting just out of fear of losing, but if you must, then clearly picking the guaranteed loser is the wrong choice, no matter their gender, race, or baking prowess.

Posted by: fontapa | April 14, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

How about money from Rezko and Nadhimi Auchi and Iraqi born billionaire, that’s why Obama could buy his mansion.
He is a liar!

Posted by: Handi | April 14, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

for obama supporters
just tell us now
everything obama might,could, should, would say wrong is Sen. Clinton or bill clinton fault?
and anything you deem right he has said
well that is just because he is right?
Stop trying to make the remarks obama said in sf Sen. Clintons fault.
and pa woman-no matter how much you try or want it to be so-bill clinton presidency is over-I do not think you or anyone else believes that after this hard won fight-Sen. Clinton will be letting bill call the shots.
Sen Clinton will be held accountable for all the good and bad she will do.
If you are independently wealthy well you can continue to bash Sen. Clinton for bill-and give her credit for what good he did also.
but if you are working class or middle class-you should really stop listening to mr. obama speeches and start reading Sen. Clintons plan for getting this country back on the right track.
obama only copies her

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

That’s why he said he mis-spoke. Putting positive things with negative things gave the impression he was putting them all down when he wasn’t. This is obvious enough unless you have a hatred of Obama or a reason to try and push this as a controversy.

Posted by: Mike | April 14, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Okay, Hillary made those small town comments wearing Obama’s mask.
Are we really that stupid?
I hope not, because if we are, then we deserve Obama as our president and the anguish that will linger on for the next 4 – 8 years.
Wake up people! Wake up!

Posted by: SO | April 14, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

I’m STUNNED that someone in the mainstream media gets it. This incident is separating the intelligent reporters from the IDIOTS who cannot analyze Obama’s comments logically and fall for the laughably LAME spin from the cynical Obama camp.
The Obama campaign is counting on STUPIDITY of voters and reporters for survival.

Posted by: Steve | April 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

For all of you defending Obama about “what he essentially said was true,” where were you all when Ferraro made her statement? Even Obama himself said it wasn’t a racist remark, just “patently absurd.” I don’t recall you being so forgiving though, which is exactly what you are asking many of us to do here.

Posted by: LOM | April 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Looks like Obama’s financial advantage is HURTING HIM.
There could be a critical mass for Obama’s wall to wall ads in PA, if this poll is accurate.
ARG Poll:
23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama’s advertising is causing them to support Clinton.

Posted by: Bradenton | April 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

for a person that sat in the front row of a marxist theology church, listening to the rants and raves of a racist pastor, it reminds me of his comment, “cling to your faith”, and he has certainly shown us that, HE HAS BEEN CLINGING TO HIS FAITH WITH PASTOR WRIGHT FOR OVER 20 YEARS… HE LOOKS LIKE A BOBBLEHEAD DOLL IN THE FIRST ROW, HIS HEAD BOBBING UP AND DOWN IN AGREEMENT WITH “EVERY WORD” OF HATRED PASTOR WRIGHT CAN SPEW
the person who was acclaimed to be “A MAN OF ELOQUENCE, A MAN WHO BELIEVES IN THE SPOKEN WORD”, he certainly is backtracking to find an explanation as to what HE REALLY WAS TRYING TO SAY, WHAT HAPPENED, HE SUDDENLY HAS FORGOTTEN THE CORRECT WORD, OR MEANING

Posted by: susan | April 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

I am baffled as to why people with Ivy League educations are in constant need of interpreters to explain what they mean. He has yet to open his mouth with anything remotely original and not need to rephrase himself. He should stick with the Hope and Change non-specifics that have gotten him this far. When he has to speak for himself his Kool-ade leaves an aftertaste.

Posted by: Independent 1 | April 14, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Well, the chickens are finally getting off Obam-ade and coming home to roost. I only wish this man’s foibles had come out 2 months ago. He is arrogant and he only has his rhetoric to offer. I cannot believe that so many have been duped so as to support this man because of his speech-making. Well, Jerry Garcia wrote great lyrics and sometimes people swooned when they heard him, but that did not make him a suitable presidential candidate. You Obama-supporters are going to be stuck with a flawed candidate who will not survive a general election; I wonder what you will cling to? Stop the madness now. Send a Democrat with a resume and a record up against McCain. By the way, you attack Sen. Clinton for her gaffe on Bosnia. At least she went to Bosnia! When has Obama visited Iraq or any war zone?

Posted by: solid4hill | April 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Poor Barry Bittergate. He just digs his hole deeper, doesn’t he? He can’t talk his way out of this one. Perhaps his campaign will muzzle his free speech from now on and go have him back to the same stump speech that he has already delivered 1,000 + times. You know – the one that goes like this -”Hope, Change, Hope, Change, I have no real skills or experience, but back to my original point, Hope, Change, Hope, Change, Hope, Change, everybody clap and cheer, Hope, Change…..”
P.S. The Kennedys called and he’s become embarassing even to Teddy.
P.P.S Kerry called and said Barry IS out of touch, but said he’d comment again after he talked to Barry on their next windsurfing trip.

Posted by: Sandy in PA | April 14, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Sort of rekindles the spirit to know there are true journalist that tell the truth without trying to spin it one way or the other. Just tell it like it is.

Posted by: Joan Stanford | April 14, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

thank you jake for explaining these comments better than obama. now let’s sit and see how the MSM like CNN and MSNBC will spin this story to favor obama.

Posted by: crystal | April 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

This is not the first time that Obama has stepped in it by stereotyping and judging others.Remember, “typical white people?”

Posted by: NJH | April 14, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

What? Someone in the press actually said what *everyone* who isn’t on Kool-aid already knows?
This is one brave journalist. I hope you don’t lose your job for telling the truth.
————–
Oh yeah!
Kool-aid here
making you smile
drink some more
smile for a while!

Posted by: Oh Yeah! | April 14, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Hey Jake, you are one brave soul to call Obama out on his lies.
As time pass and we learn more about Obama, I have no doubt that he is proved to be an obnoxious ignorant fool.

Posted by: JoeSky | April 14, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Thanks Mr. Tapper. For telling it like it is. The real Obama just gave the public a glimps of who he really is when he thinks no one else is listening. Of course, we all suspected as much based on Rev. Wright and Michelle’s statements. Now it’s come directly from the “horses” mouth.
Game OVER!

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | April 14, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

This man’s ego is surpassed by none. He can’t back away from this. His one statement then excuse for it cancels out the other statement and excuse. He has effectively painted hisself into a corner this time. I just hope that the MSM will play or quote the statement in it’s entirety. The MSM has had a problem with this of late.
We are seeing things that a lot of people have been seeing for a long time.
Thanks Jake, for having the courage to say it.

Posted by: Brenda P. | April 14, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

To begin with wanted to tell everyone that I am a democrat first and a clinton supporter second. Sen. Obama no doubt gets my respect. He ran a different campaign and truly inspired many in the run for which he deserves all the credit. I had supported him with all the recent controversies but this recent incident has made him lose a lot of that respect. It is not at all to do with the comment or the word “bitter” though I agree the choice of words were wrong. Please do take a minute to read through the entire transcript or listen to the audio clip. Half knowledge is worse than no knowledge.
1. There is resentment, frustration(bitterness towards the government) among people but they don’t resort to violence or antipathy. A very small percentage might(social outlaws) but most of AMERICA is resilient and have deep rooted faith and beliefs.
2. This occurred at a private fundraiser in california among some rich donors to the campaign, an event where the media wasn’t invited, if we didn’t have the lady from HP record the talk, it would remain unknown. If he meant to be honest he should have raised it in a small town in PA and addressed the issue head on. Seems to me like same old politics which unfortunately back fired.
3. As a hard core dem I personally took offence(in the same way when HRC implied she and mc cain are ready but obama ?, in the same way when Mrs Obama said she would have to think twice before vitong for clinton ) when he blamed the clinton administration for the lack of jobs when facts state that unemployment decreased from in PA 7.2% to 4.6% during those years. Again within closed doors to please some of his own fundraisers.
I know this is a very passionate election year and If in any way my comments might have hurt others (that was definitely not the intent)- deep felt apologies are on the table!
Amen

Posted by: Charles | April 14, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

” … he’s become embarassing even to Teddy.”
That may have been written tongue-in-cheek, but is probably true. Except for the tender candidate’s made-up baloney about how the Kennedys were responsible for his very conception, the bamboozled un-rich might have been spared the cheesy spectacle of THOSE endorsements.

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Thank you Mr. Trapper for sharing the truth. It is good to hear someone finally remark on Barack Obama and tell it like it really IS. I appreciate your remarks so much. You are right on!
My family and I are under much stress. I am not bitter. I do not cling to my religion, guns, etc. My faith is a part of me. I love this country and know the true values that make us unlike any nation in the world. Barack Obama can only talk…he does not walk the walk. And now his talk has reflected what lies behind the mask. He does not see and know the America I know. A man behind a mask will not bring change to American. Infact, I believe he has done more to divide this country than anyone I have seen bring division for a long time. I pray he has not undone our progress since the 60′s.

Posted by: Patricia GA | April 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

We know exactly what NObama meant by his remarks. The more he tries to spin it and remove his foot from his mouth, the bigger the foot gets! If you have to constantly explain what you said then perhaps public speaking is not his forte. And everytime he attempts to explain what he really meant to say, he winds up condesending to the very people he insulted in the first place. That this man has gotten so far into the Democratic nomination process is a travesty. When will the DNC finally admit its mistake and ask OBAMA to step aside???

Posted by: Juli in PA | April 14, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

You city-folk don’t have a clue about us no-counting small-town people, we do hold our traditions in high regard, and the fact that you assume that anyone that comes from a small town just HAS to be a ignorant racist screams, well, prejudice. Prejudice that has made our voice unheard in America because we couldn’t possibly have a place in law-making, we should just shut up and let our betters make those decisions for us simple-folk, right? Cause ya’ll been doing such a good job up till now. I wasn’t offended by Obama’s comments, he’s right after all.

Posted by: southernbell | April 14, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

“This occurred at a private fundraiser in california among some rich donors to the campaign, an event where the media wasn’t invited, if we didn’t have the lady from HP record the talk, it would remain unknown.”
That is a very important point. Barry felt safe among maxed-out donors, safe enough to reveal his true condescending and elitist core.
Who doesn’t think he would have LIED about the comments if they emerged but were not on tape?
That’s what he tried to do when his adviser told Canada he didn’t mean what he said on the stump about NAFTA.
He was forced to cop to it when the memo emerged.
Fundamentally dishonest campaign.

Posted by: Saul | April 14, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Yes…OBAMA — as your words convey—
These folks CLING on to guns and religion ———as——– YOU CLING on to your REV. WRIGHT and his teaching s from James Cone.
You have judged your potential supporters…… with this word
You used the word CLING.
And as you try to CLING onto some support you have in PA……
enough bloggers have downloaded the AUDIO from your FundRaising Party…..
including
” When people tell me they’ve all stressed about racial discord, well, you know, try slavery for a while”
talk about getting the last word in a conversation…..

Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 14, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

“That this man has gotten so far into the Democratic nomination process is a travesty. When will the DNC finally admit its mistake and ask OBAMA to step aside???”
They’ll have to make it LOOK good, though: best would be for both Obama AND Clinton to withdraw — after some enterprising Democrat (perhaps Howard Dean) stuffs pompous saboteur John Kerry into a large game bag — and nominate John Edwards.

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Be watchful about how Obama and Axelrod his media svengali try to spin this story and attempt to revise public opinion.
“The following is an excerpt from BusinessWeek about a relatively secret venture that Axelrod operates while he oversees Obama’s campaign:
From the same River North address, Axelrod operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies, that discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to tilt public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be top secret, from its client roster and revenue to even the number of its employees. But customers and public records confirm that it has quarterbacked campaigns for the Chicago Children’s Museum, ComEd, Cablevision, and AT&T.
ASK’s predilection for operating in the shadows shows up in its work. On behalf of ComEd and Comcast, the firm helped set up front organizations that were listed as sponsors of public-issue ads. Industry insiders call such practices “Astroturfing,” a reference to manufacturing grassroots support. Alderman Brendan Reilly of the 42nd Ward, who has been battling the Children’s Museum’s relocation plans, describes ASK as “the gold standard in Astroturf organizing. This is an emerging industry, and ASK has made a name for itself in shaping public opinion and manufacturing public support”
People, are we going to allow this guy Axelrod to get inside our head and tell us what to think?

Posted by: morningside | April 14, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Morningside – and add this to the Axelrod factor: His internet campaign manager is Chris Hughes, one of the original founders of Facebook, which explains the viral internet campaign, that has children believing they are “involved” in Obama’s campaign, by becoming a “buddy” of his on sites like MySpace and Facebook. This is a whole new type of predator on the Internet…..

Posted by: Sandy in PA | April 14, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

almost time to see what wolf, cafferty and co. have in store for Sen. Clinton this evening.
I just know they are all going to get to the bottom of the obama remarks and figure out a way to blame her.
I know his handlers are trying to come up with a way to just keep him quiet until after the primaries.
I know now why the dnc want to get sen.
clinton to step aside.
only because-they cannot keep spinning this guy as the real deal for long.

Posted by: jgaw | April 14, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

“Astroturfing,” a reference to manufacturing grassroots support.
One gets the impression, interestingly enough, that astroturfing for the “post-partisan” candidate’s made use of the bi-partisan (everybody from the Cheney girls to the uber-left) “gay-rights” network.

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

“almost time to see what wolf, cafferty and co. have in store”
Have Matthews and Olbermann (and mewling mascot Jonathan Alter) taken to their sick-beds yet?

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

The troubling thing about obama is his constant stream of misstatements. Just think of him as president and he is at a summit meeting with the Russians, Chinese of anyone else and he goes in a group of misstatements. think of the mess that that coult create. His judgement is suspect. It took him 20 yrs and a run for the presidency to tell Babs Walters that if his racist minister didn’t retire, he’d leave the church. What a crock. If we’re attacked he has to act immediately, not take 20 yrs. He’s a product of the corrupt Chicago Daly political machine. When John Kennedy ran for president and lost Ill. mayor daly found some extra votes that were missed, and when counted, brought Ill. in the Kennedy win column. Later, when checked, these votes were by dead people. they were gotten from the cemetary. check your history books.
the republicans must be salavating waiting for him to run. He’s supplying all the ammo they anyone can need.I hear that Chris Matthews bought himself a blue dress and some cigars.

Posted by: Russ | April 14, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

I’m actually happy that the media and the people of this country are starting to come out and realize about Obama. How can you support a leader who put his own people down like that. Obama has been making alot of mistakes in his speeches, especially the hatred that are coming out from his heart.
HE HAS BEEN STEREOTYPING THIS WHOLE RACE.

Posted by: Sammie | April 14, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Hey…I’m a conservative from a small town, NRA member.
I’m also self aware that I am bitter about off shoring, I am bitter about race being used in college admissions, I am bitter about being treated as an idiot because I have faith in a surpreme being, and I am bitter about NAFTA.
Oh yeah, and I AM bitter about a woman running for commanger in chief who lies with her husband about being under fire while we have soldiers dying in a foreign land.

Posted by: Alex, from Texas | April 14, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

The media is trying to divert Americans attention by bringing up the Clinton’s wealth.
I am so tired that the media keeps saying that the Clinton’s are multi-millionaires. I am proud that they are the American dream. They came from very humble backgrounds and both were lawyers that took the route that helped the average American. The Senator from Illinois in the meantime defended a slumlord and past terrorists. He too is a multi-millionaire or was his $1.65 million dollar home somehow did not cost between one and two million dollars. Did the media miss math 101 in the same manner as the Senator from Illinois?
Hillary Clinton’s father worked in the Post Office and her mother worked all her life so that her brother and Sen. Clinton could go to college. Sen. Clinton worked to pay for her dorm and books through her college years. President Clinton’s mother was a nurse and his stepfather worked as well. Through academics, he excelled and this helped his political career. Now the Senator from Illinois is also a millionaire although he has not had the seven years like the Clinton’s to build his wealth.
It took the Clinton’s until they were in their 60s to become multi-millionaires. They earned their wealth by writing books and President Clinton’s speeches. There is nothing illegal about earning wealth this way regardless of the audience. Along the way, they served in the public sector for over 30 years and as far as I recall, they never owned a home until President Clinton retired as President.
Now Fox News reported that Sen. Barack Obama started opposing the Iraqi war one week before Sen. Hillary Clinton starting in 2002.
What I do not understand why Sen. Barack Obama refuses to make an apology for any mistake he makes. The fact remains that the media is the one that always makes excuses for Obama.
Finally, like myself, regardless of what the press says, Hillary people will go to McCain.

Posted by: Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF Retired | April 14, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Obama has a classification for every American. Typical white person, typical black person and now typical religious, gun totting clinging to illegal immigration issues.

Posted by: jp,michigan | April 14, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Wonder how much Hillary’s camp pays to have people talk her up on these blogs

Posted by: southernbell | April 14, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I am religious, I carry a gun and I am for stronger immigration laws, apparently I am atypical.

Posted by: southerbell | April 14, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Heck, I’d be happy if they’d just enforce the existing ones. And as far as anti-trade sentiment – what is it with all of this drive to clean up the environment, go green while all the while Americans are buying almost everything from China where they don’t care a hoot about the environment or for the labor force. Have you seen the rivers overflowing with plastic in China? I’d say buy American made products only but thanks to nafta, there just isn’t any.

Posted by: southernbell | April 14, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

“If this actually turns the election, we deserve everything we get. Whatever happened to the proud tradition of the 4th Estate?”
Those who aren’t well-fixed mobsters or miscellaneous zillionaires certainly deserve something better than Obama. And Mayhill Fowler — who outed Obama’s remarks at the Gettys’ — deserves a biiig prize.

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Russ, you’re right about his constant stream of mistatements. Remember, this is the man who has promised to meet with America’s worst enemies without preconditions or negotiations. Do we really want this man representing us?

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 14, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

I also saw John Mccain would rather run against Clinton. I think he is afraid running against Obama will turn into a racial thing.
Also can you tell me any ex-president and first lady in recent years who have not become rich. Look at Obama he hasn’t even won the nomination and he is already rich.

Posted by: Ken | April 14, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

I hope that Mayhill Fowler isn’t being threatened or harrassed by Obama people. I wonder how many people are out there afraid to go up against Obama’s machine.

Posted by: s. valenti | April 14, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

I’m listening to the FAUX outrage from Jeffrey Toobin (a classmate of Obama’s) on CNN bemoaning the change in strategy of Hillary Clinton. He talks about how she used to talk about healthcare et. al but now she’s stooped to criticizing Obama about his condescending remarks.
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
When she did talk about the issues, no one covered it. They were only interested in slamming her – while they gave a pass to their guy OBama. For the past 2 months, it’s been non stop slamming of Clinton.
Now Cafferty – that cranky jerk is saying that most of his e-mails from listeners – tell him this is a non-issue. People do we believe this is a non issue?
Email cafferty at CNN and let him know it does matter that we have a presidential candidate who ‘disses’ whole segments of our population.

Posted by: s. valenti | April 14, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

“I hope that Mayhill Fowler isn’t being threatened or harrassed by Obama people.”
Yes: we should all pray that Fowler doesn’t … fall under a bus, or something. Let’s hope she’s on vacation, under another name.

Posted by: Belle Starr | April 14, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

C’mon! Words don’t matter…?

Posted by: Jsn | April 14, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

What Obama said is so true. Many of us who have lost our jobs, have no hralthcare, and haven’t beleived our government will do anything to help us with economic issues do indeed votre based on issues such as gun-control, religion(abortion and gay rights), immigration, terrorism and war. The politicians use these issues to distract and divide us while they spend our future in Iraq and sell Americans out to Mexico and China. Who wouldn’t be bitter?

Posted by: Peg | April 14, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

People!
Do you want to stop the war in Iraq? Do you want the economy to recover? Do you want good-paying jobs to stop leaving the country? Do you want corporations to stop offshoring their business and throwing you out of job, house,and home?
If so, stop attacking the Democratic candidate. Work to register people to vote. It doesn’t matter who they vote for. Let the best candidate win. Stop fighting each other, keep your eyes on the prize!
If McCain wins, the economy goes straight down the toilet. Kiss your job goodbye, kiss your house goodbye, and kiss your kids goodbye because they’ll be getting blown up in Iraq.

Posted by: mps | April 14, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Well Jake as far as the spin machine goes let’s see whe believes he was complimenting small town America and who believes the cropped quote that so many in the MSM are putting out.
First he denies…then he lies…next I expect Obama to attack full force…because he knows that the press has his back.
Perhaps this is like any other conflict and it started when his campaign started smearing the other candidates and innocent bystanders as racists…or maybe it started in the pulpit of Oabma’s church with profane and racist attacks.
The problem being if you excuse and reward and deny this type of behaviour for some and condemn it in others….the guy that has had it excused and rewarded is going to feel like it’s a campaign tactic that works…
I do not think Obama is an elitist…I think he feels like Wright has been excused and accepted and his campaign has profited from playing the race card…I think Obama feels entitiled and frustrated and even bitter,,,After all the MSM has been saying that the election is over and Hillary (who I’m sure he’s called every name in the book at similar fundraisers) is still running.
Not elitist just entitled and maybe a little bitter that he is losing in PA.

Posted by: Jackie | April 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Obama mocked and outright attacked Hillary today for her downing a shot in Indiana the other night saying it was just a way to get press yet it was Obama who was shown in the media having a beer and bowling (rather poorly) in PA. Talk about a cheap shot and a foul. He did exactly what he is accusing her of doing.

Posted by: Eric | April 14, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

YEP….obama is a uniter!!
HE IS UNIFYING EVERYONE TO VOTE AGAINST HIM!!!

Posted by: tim | April 15, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Senator Obama’s comments about Senator Clinton being Annie Oakley was childless and outright stupid. The man needs to grow up, act and think like a rational man and stop his lies and distortions about his achievements (2)?and come up with his very own policies for the future instead of using Senator Clinton’s ideas. He is simply a bigot wanting the power this election would give him and will do anything to convince people to vote for him. His oratory skills are his only viable asset. Talk big and deliver nothing is his style. He did this in his south Chicago district.

Posted by: Mary L. | April 15, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

One thing that Obama forgot to mention was that “small town” and country “folk” have is COMMON SENSE, a quality he lacks. Just because we have strong family ties, are comfortable knowing our neighbors, enjoy hunting and eating the game, are regular church goers, does not mean that we are “sheep”. We judge people by their actions. Words without actions are viewed as someone who likes to hear their own voice. Thus the expression, “You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?”
Don’t tell me HOW I feel, because you have no idea. As a history buff, I know that the power of the people is stronger than the power of the government, as long as the government does not take away our right of speech, privacy, right to gather. Oh, wait — in a Democratic controlled Congress, government has done just that. The Patriot Act, FISA and others have limited those rights.
The time is ripe for a third party – a party of the people, for the people.
By the way, Annie Oakley would never take a “six shooter” out duck hunting. The duck would be blown up with one bullet. That’s why there are special guns and ammunition for bird hunting — they are called a “SHOTGUN and BIRD SHOT”. And, there are hunting seasons for ducks — not “every Sunday”.

Posted by: Annie Oakley | April 15, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am

LMAO I loved the reference to Annie Oakley. She made fun of him first. What goes around comes around.

Posted by: jj | April 15, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

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