By Ed O'Keefe

Apr 8, 2008 8:27am

Obama’s College Trip to Pakistan

At a fundraiser in San Francisco, Ca., Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., claimed he had more world experience than his rivals, Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and introduced a new bit of biographical information.

"Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain," Obama said, according to the Huffington Post.

"It’s ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags ‘I’ve met leaders from eighty countries’ — I know what those trips are like! I’ve been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There’s a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then — you go."

"You do that in eighty countries," Obama said, "You don’t know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa –knowing the leaders is not important — what I know is the people…I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college — I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

This last part — a college trip to Pakistan — was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn’t hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.

So I asked the Obama campaign for more information.

Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 — the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University — Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend’s family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

- jpt

User Comments

The more a President has seen of the world, the better.
Interesting though is that of all three candidates Obama has consistently been the toughest on Pakistan and Musharraf. I assume because he knows very well what is going on there, and how dangerous various radical factions in the country are for our fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Posted by: Greta | April 8, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Now let’s find out what he was doing while he was there.

Posted by: Oldgaman | April 8, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

What is interesting about the story is that he was studying international relation in college. That is a great thing. He knows how to deal with these people.

Posted by: King T | April 8, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

I agree. Let’s find out which Madresa he actually visited.
He is a creep and a divider!
Vote NoBama!

Posted by: Preston | April 8, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

This one demands more scrutiny! People don’t just go to Pakistan for a getaway.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 8, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

I am more curious to know why he went to Hyderabad in India and not a major city like Delhi or Bombay?
Hyderabad is a muslim dominated city.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Yes, Heidarabad is nearly 100% Muslim!
“White Americans should be damned for their treatment of blacks; and America is responsible for the 9/11 attacks and the spread of the HIV-AIDS virus!”
Rev. Wright

Posted by: Mo | April 8, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

It won’t matter who I vote for if Obama gets the nomination.
He’ll lose by a landslide.
I will vote for every Democrat I can, but if Obama’s the candidate, I’ll vote for McCain, just like many other Clinton supporters will.
I have many reasons.
Here are just a few.
1. I believe that Obama is incompetent and not qualified to be President.
2. In protest to the tactics of Obama supporters viciously attacking anyone who posts anything that causes Obama’s divinity into question.
3. In honor of the people who suffered and died in “Obama’s Slums”
There are many more reasons.
Those are just the first few that come to mind.
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Obama Supporters,
Why is it you insist on following the rules when it comes to Florida and Michigan, but when it comes to allowing SuperDelegates to vote their independent judgements, and to overturn the pledged delegates (from making foolish mistakes), all within the rules, that you moan and complain. That seems rather hypocritical on your part don’t you think?
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Obama is green behind the ears!
Obama cannot close the deal!
Obama is unelectable!
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Posted by: Meck | April 8, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

In other news, according to Reuters, Sen. Clinton may be the Democrat whom Republicans love to hate, but most strategists say they have no fear of a match-up with her rival Sen. Obama in November’s presidential election. There is a strong consensus that Obama is “a glass jaw who is going to get hit hard.” This presents a challenge for the super-delegates who will have to make the tough decision between Obama and Clinton. Read the Reuters Report.
Another serious concern within the Obama campaign is the senator’s association between 1999 – 2002 with the self-proclaimed and convicted Pentagon terrorist, William C. Ayers to whom Obama has referred to as having “a friendly relationship”. This problem could be Obama’s “Willie Horton” and even more damaging to than his 20 year relationship with the racist Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Meck | April 8, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

According to Washington Post, Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles. Read about Obama’s involvement with the Pentagon terrorist, William C. Ayers.
Mmm

Posted by: Meck | April 8, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

So vacationing somehow is foreign policy experience?
That is simply ridiculous.
I am more experienced in foreign policy that Obama in that case. I’ve visited more than 15 countries and lived in 3 different regions of the world. Maybe I can be commander-in-chief.
He is just being dumb.

Posted by: Joan | April 8, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Americans better wake up before it is to late.

Posted by: Bishop | April 8, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

There were already a million reasons to vote for Obama… I can make that a million and one now.
Vote Obama for your mama

Posted by: yes | April 8, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

It is sad that the press lets Obama get away with this sort of thing. Even if you accept hi argument that not diplomatic travel is more important than diplomatic travel McCain still beats him hands down and has lived outside the country fro more years than Obama.

Posted by: Ray | April 8, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Yeah, you’re right Bishop… Americans better wake up! Because Obama is a once in a lifetime candidate and everyone who works with him knows he can and will accomplish what he says he will. He really does bring a new kind of politics and more than that… a new kind of thinking. He’s the first true political leader of my generation and I couldn’t be prouder to be an American than I am right now.

Posted by: paradigmshift | April 8, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

All you Clinton supporters you go around saying your not going to vote Obama better remember that this race is not over and the more you talk like that the chances that we will vote for Hillary if she wins are getting less and less. You want McCain to take office keep this up. I am a supported for any one that is not a republican they have ruined this country.

Posted by: runforcover | April 8, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

I am from India . I know karachi & Hyderabad in India has lots of link with terrorists. I am not sure what he was doing.

Posted by: Longlive America | April 8, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Jake – Could you please find this out?
I am more curious to know why he went to Hyderabad in India and not a major city like Delhi or Bombay?
Hyderabad is a muslim dominated city and had links to various terrorist activities. If I am not wrong, even 2 people from that place were arrested for 911 questioning.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Hey, You folks suspicious of OBAMA’s visit to Pakistan; did you not READ Tapper’s blurb about why OBAMA was in Pakistan? HE WENT WITH A FRIEND OF HIS FROM COLLEGE WHO WAS FROM THAT PARTICULAR REGION OF THE COUNTRY! Look, I know he has a funny name, yes he has been educated outside the U.S. ( shocker: not in western Europe!!)and yes he’s RUMORED to have NOT put his hand over his heart during the NATIONAL ANTHEM!!! WHAT A TRAVESTY!!! ARE you kidding me!! I can’t believe the level of people being gleefully ignorant, and acting as if having a funny sounding name,etc. is un-American! Man, a number of you are probably Democrats!!
Listen, you J.Edgar Hoover fans, as you bask in your fear of different types of people, I am sure you have as many personal “challenges” as Mr. Hoover who constantly wore a flag pin, waved a flag, and probably did a lot of unmentionable things with a flag too! I believe in this country within every fiber of my being, even when I feel my country as an African American hasn’t loved me back; warts and all!! The last thing we need to do is to continue these whispering and now shouting campaigns against people who may not have a name like yours, that may celebrate the greatness of our country in a different manner; and yes wants and expects our country to be BETTER! Well,they thought M.L. King was a COMMUNIST TOO!!

Posted by: AGBI | April 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

runforcover
Obama is an empty suit and Hillary is a bag of hot air. Why wouldn’t any educated person vote for McCain?

Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Obama is treating the American public like little kindergartners, all ga-ga about his world travels.
You must be joking – by that token, any of the hundreds of world-weary journalists will be imminently more qualified than Obami to be President.
The guy’s imbecility never ceases to amaze me. Or is it the old refrain “never underestimate the stupidity of the American public” who apparently is voting for the next American Idol.

Posted by: alee25 | April 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

How come this three-week trip to Pakistan and later to another Muslim hornet Hyderabad not revealed so far?
How many Madrassas did he visit? How many Al-quaida training camps did he visit? Was he visiting the banned SIMI headquarters in Hyderabad?

Posted by: yalli | April 8, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

We need to know what those cultures are like on the street level. If we don’t…if our leaders don’t, then we wait in our ivory tower for them to come here…or we blindly attack a country whose culture the administration did not know enough about to understand how the population would act.
It is a new world…we need friends on the other sides of the ponds. We need to understand what our friends are living in and be able to tell the general difference between our friends …our enemies and those peoples whose cultures can change in either direction by our actions.
It is a different world and we can either be the stodgy old neighbor who fears his neighbors and becomes the hated neighbor … because he is always nervous that something is going to happen and has never met the people in the other houses. That is the guy who has no one to call on when house gets broken into, when the floods start happening, when one of the neighbors starts threatening him the others ignore the screams and the threats…because he is just the stodgy old schmuck who has grown defensive and paranoid in his old age and wealth.

Posted by: dl | April 8, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

A lot of griping and hating going on here. Dems…better start getting used to the idea of Obama as your candidate in ’08. Like it or not, he is our best hope. As much of a “glass jaw” as he may or may not have, Hillary would have an even more difficult time against McCain in the general election. If McCain couldn’t unite his party, Hillary would do it for him, with the GOP lining up squarely behind him in order to defeat a Clinton.
Is Obama a Muslim? When you get down to it, he’s about as Muslim as Hillary is. His willingness to listen to all sides scares a lot of folks who bought copies of Toby Keith’s “Courtesy of the Red, White & Blue” and believe that Iraq has something to do with 9/11. My-country-right-or-wrong types.
Obama is a patriot, but thankfully he’s no nationalist zealot.
By the way, let’s see a show of hands of everyone trashing Obama here who voted for George W. Bush in the last election.
I thought so.

Posted by: Steven D'Amico | April 8, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Hmmm My post seems to have disappeared
You all know if Clinton had made such silly remarks as I have lived in these countries as experience. Especially when he was a child of five. The media would be calling for her to drop out.

Posted by: toby | April 8, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

I cannot believe some of the comments here. First of all, some of you criticize Obama for visiting Pakistan and Hyderbad (apparently 100% muslim – which by the way is not true). So that makes him bad? So the assumption is anyone who visits Pakistan or any muslim place is bad? What is wrong with you people? I personally have not decided which candidate I am going to vote for… but throwing people under the bus for visiting certain countries is just plain stupid. I think people ought to look at the candidate their leadership qualities and stand. Clinton with her “mis-speak” on dodging bullets is not doing any better either.
It is just disgusting that you guys vote on the basis of some random report and the current trends rather than a good research. Explains a lot why Bush got elected twice.

Posted by: Steve | April 8, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Steven
obama has made me a 30 years democrat a republican for this presidential election if he is the nominee.

Posted by: toby | April 8, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Oh please one going on a college road trip with a friend gives you the know how to deal with that countries internal matters?
Or living in another place between the age of 6 -10 makes you a expert on foreign policy as regards to how that country fits into the world stage?
Why do some of you tolerate such nonsense from Obama and make him into something that he is not?
This is the most uneducated tripe I have ever heard from anyone, you don’t have to know the leaders of a country you have to know the people to be an expert on foreign policy.
Maybe Obama need to understand that foreign policy be it good or bad is not made by the people of a country, its their leaders that make the policy. Knowing the people may be great so if they don’t like the policy what is he going to do help them stage a coup and oust the leaders?

Posted by: SJ | April 8, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Both Clinton and Obama have all of the qualifications needed to be president. Both are extremely astute, both know how Washington works, both know a hell of a lot more about foreign relations than George Bush did when he started and even more than he knows right now, after being on the job for nearly eight years. On the economy, health care,and education, both know more and have much more lower, middle, and upper-middle class-friendly views on education than McCain.
Racists want to tear down Obama, no matter what the pretense. Now we’re hearing that its a bad idea for people studying foreign policy in college to travel around the world, unless they stay in places were everyone sees things just like main-stream xenophobic Americans do. We wouldn’t want to elect a president who knows how the rest of the world lives and sees things, now would we?

Posted by: american146 | April 8, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Go to heck, Meck. He’s pointing out Hillary’s sham. And you will vote him, unless you like sending our kids to the “death in the desert”
Hillary is in HillaryLand … the land of snipers and Rocky the Commander in Chief. Its not her fault she doesn’t know the real world … married to Bill you have to repress.

Posted by: Meck II | April 8, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Hyderabad is a muslim city? You don’t say! You mean a man with family that is muslim was willing to visit a city that is largely governed by muslims?
STOP THE PRESSES! This is big news! Obviously the man is a terrorist because he visited a muslim city! No one ever visits a muslim city unless they’re a muslim! ZOMG!
Islamophobics unite, and be secure in the fact that there will always – ALWAYS – be room for bigotry, fear, and irrational hatred in the Republican party.

Posted by: BLR | April 8, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Interesting how Obama wants to attack secular Muslims, not radical Islamics.

Posted by: geevill | April 8, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I am American Citizen. I lived in India for 25 years. Jack your team in ABC should do more research about this “Trip to Pakistan”.
I know lot about link between Hyderabad & Karachi. Every time bomb explodes in India , Police arrest someone from Hyderabad who was trained in Pakistan. If this trip turned out to be just a regular trip, It is good news for Obama & America. If not this is serious mater

Posted by: Kumar | April 8, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I guess all the kids that go to Cancun on Spring Break are experts on Mexican Diplomacy. We could fill all of Obama’s cabinet positions with Spring Breakers that visited other countries during Easter. Thats the ticket!

Posted by: glennmcgahee | April 8, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I am surprised at the comments about Muslims in general from people.
Its as if talking to a Muslim, going to a “Muslim” city, having Muslim friends, understanding the Muslim religion is somehow dirty.
When Bush sits down with the leaders of Muslim countries and enjoys their riches, countries such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, ect do these same people find this unacceptable?
So when a Presidential candidate has Muslim associations with “common people”, why does that need scrutiny.
This country has at least 1 million Muslims. This world has at least 2 billion Muslims and our troops are supposedly fighting for the freedom of the Muslim population of Iraq. Americans are dying for Muslims in this Bush war. Do you think that this war is about converting these Muslims to Christianity?
I distrust anyone that cannot hold a conversation with Muslims, that cannot acknowledge their religion, culture, history or mere aliveness.
This is absolutely a plus for Obama. This is the intelligence, knowledge, diplomacy and egalitarianism that a President should have. The ability to work with all groups of people. To assess situations out of intelligence and knowledge, not out of fear and intolerance.
Not the fear, isolation, negative connotation and intolerance towards a population of people that we as Americans have been told to hate and loath.

Posted by: Anna | April 8, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

So a college roadtrip(what Obama did) rather than meeting with the leaders of the country(what Hillary did) gives you more experience?
Is this some kind of joke?
Is he really going use that argument?
He’s confident the media will not call him out on his invalid “experience” argument.

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

I’d very strongly agree with Toby who thinks “silly” the idea a childhood home in a different part of the world is significant to one’s life experience. I am a voracious reader of biographies. One’s understanding of the world, is greatly formed by that early experience. As a “current” example, look at Greg Mortenson of Three Cups of Tea. He had no idea how immensely impacted his later life would become by his childhood years living in third world countries with his American missionary parents. His incredible accomplishments of the present are based on a broader world view and understanding that is rooted in his formative years. FOr like reasons, I believe Obama’s multicultural background as a child has much more to do with understanding of the world beyond the good old USA than Clinton’s “if its Tuesday, this must be Ireland” type of first lady travels.

Posted by: seanoneill | April 8, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

You Americans are quite comical.
It would be a benefit to the USA if its president has traveled and lived in foreign countries, and has an understanding of different peoples.
Most of the posts above me are quite negative, solely on the basis that he visited a ‘Muslim city’ in Pakistan. Comments such as that display your lack of intelligence and shallow reasoning when choosing a candidate. Many people outside America support Obama, and after the past 7 years America needs to redeem itself in the eyes of the world.
Stop being ignorant and petty, it only re-enforces the stereotype that Americans are uneducated and misinformed.

Posted by: Joe Canadian | April 8, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

I am not suprised obama told you journalist something that was news to you.
You all have not bothered to investigate obama-
because you know your bread and butter is to run down sen. clinton. that is easy and it pays the bills.
but now we have obama this close to becoming the nominee-with you help because you have failed to fully vet this man-a lovefest you should have tee shirts and caps that say
The MEDIA (heart) OBAMA
there is a lot more you don’t know about him-but you maybe able to find out if you would just investigate.
You can start with the Larry Sinclair and obama affair.
and who is william ayers?
there is so much we do not know about this man. but one thing we know after listening and watching him is he is not ready to be our president.
and a further indication he is not ready is to say that
a three week vacation as a young college student is more experience that am american first lady going on official visits to countries.
I have two questions for Mr all wise well traveled obama
1. Were you using pot or cocaine while on your trips.
2. and if trips by first ladies are so inadequate-What will michelle do and where will she go?

Posted by: jgaw | April 8, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

What is realy scary is how Hyderabad is such a mecca of technology. Obama is in secret a technology propogator. He likes gadgets! Don’t vote for Obama he might make this country money and that would be bad because then we would have no good excuse not to share the wealth with the poor. Can you believe Obama does not want to punish poor people who don’t purchase health insurance like Hillary the strong! We need someone who is mean like Hillary and who has the real “fairy tale” imagination to duck bullets with her daugter and run from ground zero in the nick of time! We should all lobby to put Hillary in a cape and tights!

Posted by: Adam Schifter | April 8, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Toby writes: “When I was visiting France there was a serial rapist on the loose in Paris, the same city I was visiting at the time! Now that is what I call keeping a cool head in a pressure situation!”
Hmmm, so you admit to having ties with a serial rapist!! I hope you have no presidential ambitions.

Posted by: american146 | April 8, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

CORRECTED:
I’d very strongly DISAGREE with Toby who thinks “silly” the idea a childhood home in a different part of the world is significant to one’s life experience. I am a voracious reader of biographies. One’s understanding of the world, is greatly formed by that early experience. As a “current” example, look at Greg Mortenson of Three Cups of Tea. He had no idea how immensely impacted his later life would become by his childhood years living in third world countries with his American missionary parents. His incredible accomplishments of the present are based on a broader world view and understanding that is rooted in his formative years. FOr like reasons, I believe Obama’s multicultural background as a child has much more to do with understanding of the world beyond the good old USA than Clinton’s “if its Tuesday, this must be Ireland” type of first lady travels.

Posted by: seaoneill | April 8, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

For the last 7 1/2 years, our country has been going down. The rich are getting very rich (oil company & Wall Street executives), and still when someone present ideas and a vision to give the government to the people, instead of the way it is you become weary. President Bush, bankrupt three companies, personally profited from forcing private homeowners out because his business arrangements with the Texas Ranger’s stadium. Now our country is in economic turmoil because of lack care of the people.
You question Sen. Obama visit to Pakistan and India, while in college. He’s the only candidate that has continued to talk about empowering the people of the US, from bottom up and not top down.
I pray that I’m wrong, but the only reason some people object to the vision of Obama becoming president is because of the color of his skin and not the content of his ability. It’s sad, but it is what it is, don’t beat around the bush. For you that feel this way, say what you mean so that a dialogue can be began to bridge America, not divide. Our history has had enough division, now it’s time to mend the fence to restore our great NATION.

Posted by: Tyke | April 8, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

1981? I really doubt much was going on in Pakistan in 1981. 1st the only real branch of radical Islam was in Iran at the time and I suspect Pakistan is largely Sunni not Shiite like Iran. We all know how well the Sunnis and Shiites get along (well, Bush didn’t). Osama didn’t really get radical until the anit Soviet movement was funded by the US-Reagan administration. So there really isn’t much to this news.

Posted by: Likely Notabigdeal | April 8, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

I am not questioning Obama’s patriotism. But I want to be sure I am voting for someone who thinks about America first before other countris, as he will be the President of this country and not some other country.
I can understand why he went to Karachi (becoz his friend was from there), but why to Hyderabad? He could have gone to major cites like Delhi or Bombay… He could have gone to visit Agra to see the Taj Mahal but why to Hyderabad? There is nothing great in Hyderabad for a person visiting India for the first time.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Jake, you said you were surprise to suddenly learn about this Obama trip, this goes a long way to show that the media has looked the other way while another arrogant and incompetent man runs close to the whitehouse. While salivating and drooling, the media has failed to vet this man, just as they failed to ask GOP and Bush/Cheney tough questions about Iraq. It is the massive disinformation of the nation, stupid. Obama is a mediocre, smart but too shallow. His chances in this race is an indictment on the media’s bias and incompetent.

Posted by: Ed Banks | April 8, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

So if we use Obama’s “vacation=experience” argument…..if Paris Hilton ran for President she would win because she’s vacationed everywhere and that gives her the most experience.
and all she would have to learn is…
sunnis-accept all four caliphs
and
shiites-reject the first three caliphs and only accept ali.

Posted by: Janet | April 8, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

This is nothing to do with color or skin. My skin is darker than Obama. I am an American Citizen and I lived in India for 25 years. I know more about the terrorist link between Hyderabad & Karachi. All we are asking Jack & his ABC team is to do more research on this Obama’s trip to paskistan & Hyderabad.

Posted by: kumar | April 8, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Obama is a tool of the extreme far left. The liberal intelligentsia (?) have a character that they can shift-shape like Gumbo.
His sponsors (mostly eastern elite) pull his strings. Clearly, he’s a puppet who says what the ventriloquist says. Something different every day.
So, vote for the puppet. The right will vote as expected. We in the middle however, will vote for sensibility not transparency. Game over!

Posted by: S | April 8, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Al Qaeda did not exist in 1981. Afghanistan was occupied by the USSR and the US was supplying the forerunners of the Taliban with arms and training and Pakistan was seen as an ally in the Cold War.
It would help if many of you actually had a clue about anything outside of your own backyard.
Having a president and public that were clueless about current events and foreign policy is why Al Qaeda was able to attack us.
Why are most Americans obsessed with the latest custody battle of Britney Spears but don’t know that there are two Dakotas, let alone anything about another country.
FYI: They speak SPANISH in Mexico, not ‘Mexican’

Posted by: FSI | April 8, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Joe Canadian’s got it right. For a third millenium people living who have achieved so much in our brief time as a nation, we seem frightentingly parochial at times. How come the rest of world sees Obama’s multicultural background a great positive, and we are still talking about whether his middle name sounds too “unAmerican”.

Posted by: seaoneill | April 8, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Hmmm… Does Obama WANT to lose this? Maybe his campaign was just trying to get this out there before it came out, but do we (as Democrats) really need the Republicans to know he was in Pakistan, and that he visited a city in India with a strong muslim presence? During his impressionable college years, no less? I’m all for being open-minded, but the truth is this just adds fuel to their “Obama is a Muslim” story. And we don’t need that.

Posted by: Vnd | April 8, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

wow so many negative comments for Barack Obama, that he is incompetent, that he is a creep and divider, that he is a glass jaw, that he lacks experience. all this things were all refuted by how Barack managed his campaign. He is winning in all fronts,he has a united campaign, all the kitchen sink including the kitchen were tthrown by Hillary to him, but where’s Barack standing compare to Hillary, far cry Obama has all the qualities to lead.LOL!!!!!

Posted by: alexis compton | April 8, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Toby:
Sorry to hear that. I have a hard time fathoming how a veteran Democrat would jump ship now, of all times. I’ve watched McCain for years, and I think he’s a decent man; I must admit that I kind of like him as a personality. But I disagree strongly with his outlook and politics. By aligning himself with the Bush administration for the past 4 years after being a onetime staunch opponent, he’s shown himself to be a true politician who knows which side his bread is buttered on and doesn’t mind switching tunes as long as it’s politically expedient. To be fair, this could be said about a lot of politicians, but McCain’s politics and policies will only give us 4 more years of war and economic turmoil. More of the same basically. I have a hard time understanding why a Republican would vote for that, let alone a Democrat.

Posted by: Steven D'Amico | April 8, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

alee25
I can assure you that I am educated and I will not be voting for another republican as long as I live. The fact republicans allowed big business to run our country into the ground is inexcusable. The republican run congress has allowed for no over site and with no over site big business has turned our country into the laughing stock of the world. Big business would have us all working in sweat shops if they had their way. Time for us all to stand up and say no more to this and demand a change in our country before we end up like Rome.

Posted by: runforcover2 | April 8, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Adam Schifter
In 1981, Hyderabad was not a mecca of technology. That happened in late 90’s. In 1981, Hyderabad was a mecca of Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: yalli | April 8, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Why is this so shocking? I was born in the U.S. and my best friend from college lives in India. I plan to visit him soon. Does this frighten you? How absurd! Take the time to really get to know other cultures, stop being “ethnocentric.” By the way, Hyderabad is in southern India, a stone’s throw away from the west coast where you’ll find Goa. Goa is a resort town full of “westerners.” Ooooohhhhh, how scary!!

Posted by: Juan | April 8, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

I cant believe how stupid some of these comments are! Of course Obama is more worldly than the other candidates…You moronic Americans make me look bad!! Open a book! It’s not that he went “on vacation” to other countries, he understands cultures…you don’t get it because you don’t know what culture is, even your own! Wake up America!! We ARE responsible for 9/11! There IS racism is our country and most other countries in the world! Figure out what the world is all about and how we fit into it before you start talking about how “Hyderbad is 100% Muslim”, what does that mean??? Can you even find Hyderbad on a map? Who cares if people are Muslim?? There are a billion Muslims in the world! The majority of Americans are so ignorant..ok go vote for Hilary and McCain and get screwed over again!

Posted by: Dan | April 8, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Three weeks in Pakistan being a tourist? A family visit to Africa, again being a tourist? And this is foreign policy experience? Have we really been reduced down to such a low level of ignorance? I’ve lived and worked in six foreign countries (farther away then Canada and Mexico), spending three years in one of them. Does this make my foreign policy experience greater then Obama’s? Obama’s statements are just ridiculous and I wish the media would start questioning these wild assertions of his.

Posted by: musashi | April 8, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Unbelievable, he visits a Muslim town with a friend in college and that means he’s a closet terrorist? Even more hilarious, people manage to hold it in their heads that he’s a closet terrorist and an intolerant Christian AT THE SAME TIME!
Gee, I’ve visited Rome three times, I guess that makes me a Catholic agent then.
Anyone so bigoted that they would oppose Obama because they think a funny name and having lived outside the US makes you a terrorist would never vote for a black democrat anyway. David Duke is more their candidate.

Posted by: Lynx | April 8, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

If I use Obama’s qualifications to vet my own while I was in the United States Navy then I am more qualified than he is. I visited many countries and spent many time with locals on my deployments.
I do not think that 3 weeks in Pakistan and 4 years in Indonesia qualifies him as an expert on foreign relations. I will say this as I have many times, knowing the people is not the same as knowing the heads of states.
I also question his experience. He once said I will even meet with the Canadian president. Well the Canadians do not have a president they have a prime minister. You have to wonder if he even knows who is the head of state in most countries. He couldn’t even remember the name of the new Russian president. Hillary did though. She had a hard time with the pronunciation of his name but that is okay because Russian in and of itself is a difficult language since they do not have vowels.

Posted by: navyvet48 | April 8, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

What’s all the bruhaha about. I’m Catholic, and I have visited Hyderbad and Karachi along with other muslim countries, so does that make me a muslim. Does visiting Delhi make one a Hindu? Does visting Lhasa make one a Buddhist? Does a trip to the Vatican make one a Catholic? Does a trip to Tokyo make one a Shinto? Those on this site who are making much about this are those who would not vote for Obama. If you claim to be a democrat who would not vote for Obama because of this (whatever this is)then feel free and vote for whoever you please.

Posted by: Andrew | April 8, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

3 areas of the world compared to 80 is NOT a huge amount of more experience. Especially when you take into consideration he was a college student during the one he brags about the most. That has no merit as a political agenda. Is this why he was so concerned about his Passport breach? Who is he to downplay the trips that Presidents and First Ladies take? If he becomes President maybe he won’t go on ANY trips just to prove his “I am different than the current Washington politicians”

Posted by: Dar | April 8, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Obama’s greatest ‘experience’ is in ‘lying to the American people’.
Had Obama been in the U.S. Senate and spoken against the Iraq War vote and voted against it, then I would consider that a suitable comparison to how Hillary stood on that vote.
OBAMA WASN’T A SENATOR WHEN WE WENT TO WAR! Unless one is in a particular legislative body under the same conditions and factors, you cannot compare two decisions straight up. The question is who will make the right decisions from here on.
Obama has spent his entire time as a Senator—running for President! If he can’t do his Senate job—he surely can’t lead our country. Obama has told so many lies that he is not credible.
Hillary ’08.

Posted by: proudamerican2008 | April 8, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

FSI & Likely Notabigdeal:
In 1981, Al-quiada was funded by Regan administration . Madrassas were there from time immemorial.

Posted by: ali | April 8, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Let’s not forget the pro-Islam associations of his mentor and preacher.
Obama listened to that for a couple of decades.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

So, now he has been to Pakistan for three weeks. I have to assume that someone is getting ready with a story about this that Obama wanted to get ahead of. This seems to be the only reason Obama shares information. So, what will we find out? That Obama WAS a practicing Muslim before he switched to Christianity? I’d really like to know more about what he did and where he went will in Pakistan? Who did he see? Who’s his friend and where is he at now?

Posted by: Matthew Weaver | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Jack
Can ABC team tell us when did Obama visit “Weather Underground”.
this is scary. do more research

Posted by: Kumar | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Chill out guys.
I am not questioning Obama’s patriotism. But I want to be sure I am voting for someone who thinks about America first before other countris, as he will be the President of this country and not some other country.
People can visit where ever they want, but there must be some reason. I can understand why he went to Karachi (becoz his friend was from there), but why to Hyderabad? He could have gone to major cites like Delhi or Bombay… He could have gone to visit Agra to see the Taj Mahal but why to Hyderabad? There is nothing great in Hyderabad for a person visiting India for the first time.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Yes,
I am glad he knows something about the PEOPLE of these countries and NOT only the leadership. Remember, putting all our eggs in the Musharaf “basket” and what came of that? As president who knows how unpopular Musharaf was, he would have probably never made that mistake . The same goes with many Middle Eastern and African countries such as Egypt, Sudan, Zimbabwe, ..etc. More than anything else, I hope to see him very engaged in the palestian tragedy. The Bush administration was quite hypocritical on this issue.
I have no doubt he wins hands down over Hillary and McCain in foreign policy matters.

Posted by: August | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

I leaved in america five years and travel many times
in your country, does that make me a klu klux klan
friend!!!!!!!!!
I was in vacation in Pakistan in mid seventies they all loved america at the time !!!!! watched James Bond movies and drinked coca-cola!!!!!
and a lot of young american too were going ….

Posted by: arielle | April 8, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

I leaved in america five years and travel many times
in your country, does that make me a klu klux klan
friend!!!!!!!!!
I was in vacation in Pakistan in mid seventies they all loved america at the time !!!!! watched James Bond movies and drinked coca-cola!!!!!
and a lot of young american too were going ….

Posted by: arielle | April 8, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

DOUBLE STANDARD.
Hillary’s first lady trips don’t count as experience, but Obama’s SINGLE college road trip with a friend does? A road trip to Pakistan will beat McCain?
It is laughable!

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

What a joke. Is this for real? He calls travels with a buddy in Pakistan an experience that equips him for President. Ridiculous.

Posted by: catherine in nm | April 8, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

The best barometer to judge who’s better to manage our country between Barack and Hillary, it is how they run and manage their own campaign. Just compare it and you’ll see who is most capable…simple…. its the campaign stupid!!!!!!LOL

Posted by: alexis compton | April 8, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Barack’s Excellent Adventure In Pakistan – Qualification As Commander in Chief?

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Posted by: PAXALLES | April 8, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

It is shame, Obama is telling he knows more about shia & sunni. His biological father was a Muslim. His step father was a Muslim. He lived Indonesia for 6 years which is a muslim country. he visited Paskistan & Hyderabad. what else he needs.
Greatest Country on this planet is about to fall. Get ready by electing Obama

Posted by: Kumar | April 8, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Anybody ever read “The Manchurian Candidate”?This guy is FRIGHTENING!!!!Wake up you lemmings!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sadam Insane | April 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Trip to Pakistan in 1981 at the start of fundamentalist unrest there. Then goes to Hydrabad in India, not a tourist spot in India by any stretch of imagination. Why not Delhi to see Taj Mahal, why not Bombay to see the Ajanta and Ellora caves which is ancient goes back to several thousand years, why not Goa where most Western tourists go for its serene and beautiful beaches.
To compare my own experience of foreign travel, I have been to every country in Latin America, Japan, Thailand, Malaysia, Sigapore, Indonesia, China, Germany, UK, Poland, Denmark, for business and met several hundred business people and have done business. Does that qualify me knowledgeable and better prepared in foreign policy, I think not!
There is some smelly in them fish wrappers!

Posted by: Confused and Dazed | April 8, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

There are two cities named Hyderabad in South Asia. One is in Pakistan, and the other is in India. From the statement in the news article, it is not clear which Hyderabad Obama visited – I suspect it might be the Hyderabad in Pakistan.
Hyderabad in India currently is a major technology center, comparable and competing with Bangalore. In the old days, it used to be a center of Islamic culture and art, and was one of the last territories to join the Union of India.

Posted by: Godiva | April 8, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

This is a very dangerous development and we need to know more immediately!
Since this would have been the 1980′s I have to wonder if Obama was running weapons to Pakistan, then our bestest ally, under the direct orders of Ronald Reagan? Was Obama involved in the GOP’s covert operations to arm the Mujahideen (um…I mean “Freedom Fighters”) to defeat the Godless Soviets? Was he involved in any way with Rambo III, the furiously anti-Russian/pro-Islamic fundamentalist epic set in Pakistan and Afghanistan? I worry about that only because it such a bad movie. I would hate for a U.S. President to be associated with bad movies. (Cough.)
Maybe Obama is the most dangerous element of all, a secret Republican sympathizer? Because that’s certainly one thing America cannot afford under any circumstances.

Posted by: Richardson | April 8, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Both Clinton and Obama have all of the qualifications needed to be president. Both are extremely astute, both know how Washington works, both know a hell of a lot more about foreign relations than George Bush did when he started and even more than he knows right now, after being on the job for nearly eight years.
On the economy, health care,and education, both know more and have much more lower, middle, and upper-middle class-friendly views on education than McCain.
Racists want to tear down Obama, no matter what the pretense. Now we’re hearing that its a bad idea for people studying foreign policy in college to travel around the world, unless they stay in places were everyone sees things just like main-stream xenophobic Americans do. We wouldn’t want to elect a president who knows how the rest of the world lives and sees things, now would we? The world is laughing at this country….so the choice is do we continue along the same path or do we change course? If we don’t elect Obama, we truly deserve everything we get.
God Bless America…please!

Posted by: SMS | April 8, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Obama’s mother was an atheist and a socialist. Looks like she wanted to do things that are not mainstream (Rebel). She married a Kenyan and then an Indonesian. Obama grew up in a confused environment and might have gone to Pakistan to see if he can relate himself to the culture there…nothing wrong in what he did.
To me it seems Obama has more diversity… no doubt about that. However, I am skeptical to have someone like that as President. He could be a great replacement for Condi Rice.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

What is two countries compared to several that Hillary has visited and also McCain. Who is Obama trying to impress and why didn’t he state this prior. He has no experience in foreign policy and not experienced enough to run this country. A senator for only three years. Give me a break. He will never have the knowledge of McCain or Hillary when it comes to running this country. Obama is desperate to make history first then running this country comes second. He wouldn’t know what to do on day one. Maybe Wright could help him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 8, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Does anyone here really think that either Clinton or Obama have traveled more widely than McCain?
McCain has done more of the the traveling diplomat thing than Clinton has. He has done more of the vacation thing than Obama has.
Oh yeah, he has also done the kill our enemies and been tortured thing. I wonder how many of you know that McCain had the opportunity to be released from that prison because his Father and Grandfather were Admirals? The Vietnamese wanted to let him go for propaganda purposes. He refused to go unless they also let out the men that had been there longer than him. He was tortured for three additional years because of this decision.
For me, I’d much rather have a leader who does what he believes is right, even if the polls disagree. That is the difference between leading and following.
Oh and yes Juan, you are absolutely right, it IS a fight between intelligence and “dumbness”.

Posted by: Doug | April 8, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Having spent a third of my life outside the US I have seen many of these political trips. As Senator Obama said, they are a whirlwind visit full of photo-ops, maybe a visit to a pet project (hospital, school, free clinic, etc…) that has been sanitized, maybe a dinner or two, and then back home.
A three-week visit with a friend in country would allow you to get a much better idea of who the people are.

Posted by: FSI | April 8, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

I agree with the last comment. Let’s be real: I lot of problems and mistakes that the United States has in the world are predicated on one fact: That we have little knowledge or understanding about the world’s cultures, languages and religions though other countries tend to understand better than we do ourselves. How is it that most people in foreign countries know English as well as their own countries’ native language, but folks here (I included) only know English? Or for that matter, most of us wouldn’t know where the city of Manama is. We tend to have this “ugly” belief that the whole world wants to be like us, when the reality tends to be that they want JUST some aspects of what we have. We need to respect that, even though we often don’t agree.
I often wondered: If we didn’t station our troops in Mecca or/and Medina during the Operation Desert Shield/Storm would Osama Bin Laden took offense like he did and created Al Qaeda? Also, most of Al Qaeda’s funding came from Pakistan’s own ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence).

Posted by: Gerald Shields | April 8, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Barak Hussein Obama is a sweet talker.That’s why so many people fall for him.Beware!!!

Posted by: adriel | April 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

The man is deluded. And by the way, when he’s a millionaire, why is his grandmother still living in a hut???
Why does anyone think he would do anything to improve their lives, when he doesn’t even care about his own “impoverished” family in Africa.
That’s pretty rich coming from someone who lives in a 2 million dollar house.

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Doug: When was the last time McCain paid a trip to another country without his bodyguards or with the U.S. Military?

Posted by: Anon | April 8, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

I can not believe you just said that as if Condi Rice has done a good job. She is a joke. Every one in the world takes what she says with a grain of salt you know why because she is just another one of Bush’s yes people that never tell that moron what he has and is doing in the world is wrong.

Posted by: runforcover3 | April 8, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Meck: You said it right. I definately will vote for McCain if Hillary does not win the nomination. If Obama went to those countries he would have to prove it to me. All of a sudden he knows more than Hillary or McCain. He only knows what he reads about those countries and what is in the news. I don’t believe a word he says. He hides his lies very well and most of the young people are eating up his garbage. He certainly couldn’t sell it to me.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | April 8, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Anon: Is there a point to your question?
When was the last time Obama was tortured for his beliefs?

Posted by: Doug | April 8, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Ali,
I said that the US (including the Reagan administration) was supporting the forerunners of the Taliban, but Al Qaeda did not exist until the late 80′s. Madrasah means ‘school’ and the majority of madrasahs in the world do not teach hatred, they are a place of learning.

Posted by: FSI | April 8, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I’m an Independent in Florida, and it’s now become so obvious that the BOTH Obama and Clinton are completely incompetent! It seems like every time either candidate says anything, their words cannot be trusted.
Neither Democratic candidate has any chance in the general election against McCain. I’m voting McCain.

Posted by: Florida Independent | April 8, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

whats up with ABC news? for the entire last 10 days you killd Hillary with stupid blogs on her and today you are doing the same to Obama. I must though admit its more on Hillary than on Obama.
When are you going to start this on McCain?
Most media companies I am sure want Republicans in white house because you will have to pay less tax .. i guess.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Political trips may be as described, but Clinton also had State Dept meetings about each of the countries she visited, hosted visitors from other countries, and has demonstrated a clear understanding of how things work in various countries and the level/type of diplomacy required to move agendas. Great that Obama knows the lay of the land and people in 3 countries – does he understand how to use the various resources of Pres staff, State dept, intelligence, etc — has he ever dealt w/any aspects of managing that or even been on the periphery? No – he was a visitor — not even enough true insight to write a travel guide, let alone leverage insight/resources to negotiate in the open and in secret, or to make trade-offs b/w conflicting claims. In contrast, HRC has 8 yrs in the WH, 8 yrs in the Senate on the Armed Svcs committee which does incl intl/national security issues, and has seen first hand how to manage conflicting pressures.

Posted by: Gracie | April 8, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

He was probably just so high at the time of his trip to Pakistan that only recently did he remember that he was there. In all sincerity, this just might have been the case.

Posted by: Econ Dude | April 8, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

I will vote democratic only if it is Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary.
We cannot win with any other ticket.

Posted by: GS | April 8, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am

Considering a visitor to a muslim country as a terrorist is stupid and degrading to America. Bush and other top level US citizens have visited muslim countries. Does this make them terrorists? Ammericans mush show the world that they deserve to be called leaders of the 21st century by putting reason infront of sentiments else the world will consider the Chinese to be better world leaders.

Posted by: Sam | April 8, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

In the United States of America, is there no more “religious freedom?”
I ask because I fail to understand why Senator Obama’s middle name or religion continues to come into question.
btw: Great post Zubin

Posted by: Perplexed | April 8, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

It’s quite hilarious to see people living in glass houses throwing stones. It is well known that the IRA, in their 30 years of terrorism on Britain were aided and abetted by Americans. Where did they get their funding? Americans. Where were the guns coming from? Americans. And where did many of them hide, protected by the courts from being deported for justice? In America. You guys supported terrorists for 30 years and now you think the terrorists are everyone else but yourselves.

Posted by: veggiedude | April 8, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Is that all it took for so many people to post negative remarks about Mr.Obama. He went to a country where ther are a lot of muslims. It appears that every McCain and Clinton backer thinks this is some how a problem. What they do not realize is that they the people who want to paint a whole religion with a tainted brush are the minority. Thank God Almighty. What they should do is look around, right here in America are people who are Muslim. People who they look up to and respect. They see them everyday on their T.V. sets, and read their stories in the newspapers and magazines. They are doctors, lawyers, congressmen, bus boys , and set on the boards of some of the richest companies,they own some of the richest companies in this country. Heck you may be working for one of them or a family member may have a six figure job working for them. And you know why, because this is America and these Muslims are good decent hard working Americans. So if the only thing bad you can say about Mr.Obama is that he visited Pakistan,your candidates must be in a whole lot of trouble. You have began to grasp at straws. I leave it to you

Posted by: We The People | April 8, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Hey Sam, America doesn’t have to prove anything to anybody.
The Chinese as “better world leaders”… what a joke. How many freedom-seeking Tibetan monks have they just murdered? And Chinese pollution is so thick, many athletes are considering not going to this Summer’s Olympics. Chinese product recalls everywhere.
Get real.

Posted by: JS | April 8, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

All you Obama-bashing democrats picked Kerry last time, didn’t you? See where it got us! Try some change this time.

Posted by: axe murderer | April 8, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

It seems that most people including the ABC Journalist are missing the fundamental point.
Most Politicians do not know the difference between a Shia and a Sunni. Now when one invades Iraq, such ignorance is simply criminal.
Mcain remains ignorant, he backs the PM of Iraq oblivious to whether Maliki is too close to Iran or not and oblivious to the relationship between Iraq and Alqueada (They hate each other) – this ignorance is criminal and will lead to more loss of life.
Now, the posters who link a trip to Pakistan with Obama Terror are far worse than Criminally ignorant – they are certifiably stupid and bigoted.
Ignorance is curable, bigotry is curable, but stupidity is permanent. Best they go back into their virtual Disney world and leave it to people of Intelligence and decency to try and unravel what they and their ilk have wrought.

Posted by: dbeall | April 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Look, I am an Obama supportert. If my state’s primary were held today, I would probably still vote for him, but it is more questionable now. I am just begininng to get the feeling that I don’t really know this candidate, and that is making me uneasy.
I always knew that Clinton had more experience than him. And I still believe she does especially in foreign affairs. I find it beneath my candidate to try and pad his resume like this. I traveled throughout Europe in college, but that in NO way prepared me to handle foreign affairs for the US. You have to know and have working relationships with the heads of states and political leaders in these countries. That is were decisions are made. I love that he thinks he understands the people of Pakistan after what 3 weeks?! I think that is a little naive.
Come on Obama. I backed you for reasons beyond your experience. Don’t exaggerate or pad your resume (you’ve seen what happened to other contender when they went down that road. Even a supporter like myself (not an Obamamaniac) is not going to take this seriously.

Posted by: Juraco | April 8, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

It is reassuring to know that the reasons for which most of the world sees Americans as ignorant arrogant imperialists does have a basis. The racism and bigotry is amazing, a country that has a history and its wealth based on genocide of native americans and slavery and its imperialistic terrorism in many parts of the world directly or supporting of it should not be so ashamed of itself instead the arrogance about themselves is amazing.

Posted by: steve | April 8, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Ok. So the boy went to Pakistan, America’s most important ally right now.
And mean while Hillary declared LTTE is not a terrorist group, a banned organization in US and FBI named as world worst terrorist group than Al Qaeda. LTTE people fundraising for Hilary in US and Europe, while bombing children marathon events in Sri Lanka.
So who is left?

Posted by: sam | April 8, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

I think it is very odd that Obama just now discloses his trip to Pakistan. If this were not controversial, why would he not have done so many months ago?
I do wonder what is in his passport file.

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 8, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

I find it very interesting that the people who criticize a person for their religious beliefs are exactly the people who have none.

Posted by: Ron | April 8, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Foreign Policy experience.
America, clearly the man has had his feet on the ground in many of these countries. If you don’t think living and spending long stretches of time in another country and amongst other cultures brings a unique understanding to their situations and value systems, then you need to evaluate yourselves quite seriously.
I find it an asset that he has spent time in nations with Muslim populations then he understands the difference between an extremist and a peaceful Islamic person.
The Bush Administrations has so damaged the image of a very peaceful religion by making all Muslims and Arabs look like gun toting maniacs and bombers that we’ve developed a warped sense of what the reality is.
Obama has not been given the cursory notes about a country to make decisions with. He actually walked in their shoes. Much Much more important!
Closing yourself from understanding the world is very dangerous.

Posted by: Erica | April 8, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

The bottom line is there are million advisers that can tell you about the people of a country… as president you need to make decisions in dealing with governments that are in the best interest of the USA… Obama is naive

Posted by: Nick | April 8, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

In fact I questions wether he would make decisions based on the needs of those people and not the interest of the US given some of his assocaites views of our country

Posted by: Nick | April 8, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

OMG, is Obama lying AGAIN???? talk about exaggerating his experience, this is utterly ridiculous. To say that his childhood and college times in foreign countries equates to foreign policy experience is not only absurd, but also painful in that his followers will STILL believe him. Obama had ONE chance to muster some foreign policy experience when he chaired a subcommitte on NATO, and he did NOT hold one hearing over more than a year. Not only is this a lack of experience, it is downright irresponsible. Obama is a fool; sadly, his followers are even more so, for not seeing the ugly truth.

Posted by: Justice | April 8, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

So he visited an out-of-the way city that happens to be mostly Muslim? SO WHAT??? Upon my return from combat in Iraq in 2004, I kept a promise to myself to go to France. I always try to choose a destination I’ve never visited, and at the time, the picturesque port city of Marseille sounded lovely to me, so I booked my ticket. On the flight over, a British flight attendant mentioned to me that this city comprises the largest Muslim population in the world outside of the Middle East. Uh-oh…. But I actually had a wonderful time there, and received more-than-gracious treatment from Muslims and non-Muslims alike, even after revealing my participation in the war.
If I were running for political office today, would this trip be plucked out as an example of some kind of “suspicious dealings”? Come on now — Obama visited Hyderabad because a college friend had family there. Hey, free room and board, what’s not to like? What was he supposed to say: “No, I can’t go there because it’s Muslim”? That’s just a way of living in fear. I wouldn’t do it myself, and I wouldn’t expect that of my President.
~~SSG Cheryl , Veterans for Obama

Posted by: Cheryl | April 8, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

steve
Are you kidding? He spent from age 6 to 10 in Indonesia in elementary school and 3 weeks in Pakistan with a buddy from college and you think that qualifies him for foreign service? That is ridiculous!
If that is all it takes, I am far more qualified since I spent several months in Indonesia and have travelled to over 20 countries on vacations longer than 3 weeks. Steve, get a hold of yourself, trying to bulk up the guys empty resume only fools the fools! Let’s hope you wake up and vote based on FACTS not on your emotions or we will end up with McCain. I am a lifetime Democrat and I USED to support Obama, but there is NO WAY I would vote for him now that I know more about him, his racist beliefs, his horrible inaction in Chicago as a State Senator, his lack of a resume and his constant LYING. He lies when the truth would serve him better.

Posted by: PaseoDelMar | April 8, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

When “We”last posted “We” forgot one important thing. Mr.Obama said, it was important to not only know the leaders, but also to know the people of these countries. Many of you thought that was just inexperience talking. Consider, how many countries do you think would change their opinion of us right now if they not only knew the bush administration but also the American people? I leave it to you

Posted by: We The People | April 8, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

After reading all of these comments it sounds like most of you are voting for the party instead of the person to bad Obama isnt running on the Indpendent Ticket I never voted until Regan ran his second term I didnt like him for what he did to the american work force remember what he did to the air trafic controlers sence then big business and partys from both sides has been selling America down the river and if not why are we in the mess that we are in??Maybe just maybe Obama might be the real deal I lost my job of 22years in a factory thanks to bill clinton we dont need another clinton.Iam tired of voting for the better of two eveils So go Obama!!!!!!

Posted by: All American | April 8, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

@ We The People
His experience argument is shot.
He is meeting with the family of his college friend.
Is that family the one who will make diplomatic decision for the rest of the country?
I don’t think so.

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

His rearing in Pakistan is exactly the reason I would question his decision making as President of the US. He would be much more likely to sympathize with the muslim extremist and our enemies than with his own country… we all know what the extremist think of us… give me a break with this change mantra… change to what a Shia society?

Posted by: Nick | April 8, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Wow, so based solely on obama’s reasoning at what constitutes foreign policy experience, I would then have more foreign policy experience than obama. In my lifetime I have visited 12 countries, I lived for 3 years in a foreign country, and I can speak three languages. Sounds like I have him beat…I had better start courting those superdelegates.

Posted by: Jay | April 8, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Obama withers even under the slightest scrutiny. He has the most foreign policy experience? Yeah right. And when he gets the chance with a key chairmanship in the Foreign Relations Committee, he does nothing with it. Who is Obama? What is he for? What will he do if elected? I know he wrote that
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” I know his election will be a fulfillment for Wright and Farrakhan.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 8, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

By knowing the people directly, Obama is just bypassing the red tape. Even the CEOs of the great companies always know what is going on at the ground level – and not rely on what their department heads tell them. Its the same for a president. The difference between Hillary and Obama is that she is all and only about details w/o any vision or clue where the country ought to go. Obama has the vision and the brains to know what needs to be done. She would be great at answering he 3am phone, and then handing it to Obama for decision making.

Posted by: Cat | April 8, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Readers:
I am from Hyderabad, India and am Hindu. Hyderabad is a fascinating place that represents the intersection of many cultures and religions-Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and Christianity. 40% of Hyderabad is Muslim- that is NOT A MAJORITY.
Hyderabad is now a center of IT in India, with Microsoft, Google, etc.
Why should Senator Obama go to Delhi or Mumbai? Should everyone visiting America go to Washington D.C. and New York? India is a big and diverse country. Your ignorance is astounding and shows why America’s reputation has sunk so low in the world.
I think it is great he’s been to hyderabd- it is a gem that tourists often overlook.

Posted by: Namratha | April 8, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

I read a couple of comments and I am truly amazed. Quotes taken out of context, judging people on the basis of their travels, judging entire cultures based upon their religion no less, and those who do the judging have no idea how to distinguish a Sunni from a Sh’ite muslim. Pretty pathetic. And we want to be considered a world leader, a world power, a culture/country to look up to…. REALLY !!!
It’s time for Americans to consider a lot about what they have, what they have not, and how they try and influence their own countrymen. Have you noticed that laws appear that, in many cases, restrict the freedoms of one specific group or another?? For what?? So that an oposing group can prevail (look no farther than the abortion issue for verification). Is this America ??
Maybe this is why there is so much unrest and uncertainty in this country…

Posted by: pct | April 8, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Obama is the creation of an internet campaign by far left zealots like moveon.org… with any careful scrutiny he is not presidential material… If he was running against anybody but Hillary he would be dead in the water

Posted by: Nick | April 8, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

backbeat,
You make a blanket statement: “our government has flushed our rights and its constitutional responsibilities”, but having NOTHING to back your statements up with. Wake up.
Also, if you know of another country that America should be emulating, move there.

Posted by: JS | April 8, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Obama dropped the Pakistan and India visit because his campaign got wind of a stinkbomb coming their way. This is not a coincidence. It is duck and cover.
Obama would have had these trips on his resume if they were enhancers. He is trying to get ahead of the news and there is more troubled water ahead.
How do I know? I know politics. This guy is losing his armor, plate by plate. Time is his enemy. Seven and a half months is a century when you are running solely on mystique.

Posted by: David | April 8, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

So he “knows what’s going on there” beause he visited for 3 weeks after college? Are you serious?

Posted by: PaseoDelMar | April 8, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Let’s see, who “knows about a bunch of stuff” that Obama is not an expert on? Obama wants to be “Commander-and-Chief-like.” He says he knows a “bunch of stuff” about foreign countries. Like, oh my god. Gag me with a spoon. Totally.
Except for having lived in Indonesia as a child and having relatives in Africa, he sounds like George Bush. Are we seriously going to elect this noob?

Posted by: Andrew Austin | April 8, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

@JS: If only the US was the US it began as, where international trade with all and political ties with _none_ was our creed. Funny how it worked remarkably well for the first 150 years. That’s my nation.
Just love your insightful, enlightened ramblings of “America: Love it or leave it”. Hope you didn’t pull a muscle with such creative force. What a laugh.

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

“I ask because I fail to understand why Senator Obama’s middle name or religion continues to come into question.”—
Short attention span and memory lapses of American History students? Has anyone checked to see if Obama’s friend’s name was Beavis?

Posted by: Mary May King | April 8, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

The interesting thing about this is, that when Obama’s campaign was asked, they immediately told the truth without trying to embellish the story into more than it was. What would hillary have done? In her version, she probably would have solved the Pakistani-India border dispute.

Posted by: robert | April 8, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

All that hatred can not hide the fact that Obama is the greatest promise to USA after Martin L King. You take this chance get him as President or lose it and stand behind a regular politician like Clinton and McCain. There are no shortage of them, they come in dozens every year.

Posted by: tom | April 8, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

I don’t think Hillary supporters care if the place he visited had a large population of Muslim. I know Obama’s not a Muslim, but if he was it would not care. It would definitely be better than having a relationship with Wright for the past 20 years.
Anyways, CLINTON SUPPORTERS WANT TO KNOW HOW MEETING WITH A FRIEND’S FAMILY GIVES YOU MORE EXPERIENCE THAN MEETING WITH THE LEADERS OF THOSE COUNTRIES?
DOES HIS FRIEND’S FAMILY HAVE POLITICAL INFLUENCE? DOES THE FAMILY MAKE ANY IMPORTANT DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTRY?

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

How come Obama’s most of the so called world experience is in the ‘Islamic extremist’ safe haven countries like Pakistan, Indonesia and Kenya? What was Obama doing in Pakistan for 3 weeks? Even the only part of India that he visited happens to be one of the most Muslim populated area in India. What do all these experiences tell us? Media needs to dig deep into this.

Posted by: Chiman | April 8, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Actually I just spent 7 weeks in Pakistan and I can say it is unbelievably important to visit there and visit there not as a politician. I believe those experiences will help Obama. It is a part of the world that needs to be understood. It is definitely part of the way to move forward

Posted by: Esme | April 8, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Obama supporters who say Clinton does not deserve/need to be on the ticket are mistaken.
How else will you get Hillary supporters to vote Obama instead of McCain?
If Hillary wins the nomination and she didn’t put Obama on the ticket there would be a riot!

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Obama for president:
LOL!!!!

Posted by: brandi | April 8, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Nobody claims that Obama is a Muslim… but according to his writings and action he clearly identifies with their culture, causes and people more than his own… so this puts him at odds with most Americans and creates a problem for him if he wants to lead us

Posted by: Nick | April 8, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Gosh, with all the places I’ve visited in the world and my multi-national spouse and Middle-Eastern ex-spouse – can I run for President, too?

Posted by: Whoa | April 8, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

killGS: Nobody is saying the Obama is muslim and being muslim is non patriotic. Actually Obama is the one who is ashamed of his middle name for no reason. Obama is the one who defends his non-patriotic pastor. Obama is the one who claims world experience based on his frriends and family visits to three extremist haven countries (Indonesia, Pakistan and Kenya).

Posted by: Chiman | April 8, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Now Hyderabad, Pakistan is near Karachi and is a hotbed of Muslim extremism. Hyderabad India is no where near Karachi.
Jake are you sure Obama didn’t misspeak and visit Hyderabad Pakistan, when in College not India? And what exactly did he do there?
Sounds like Mr obama is trying to hide something here as we have never heard of this trip before.

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Hey KillGS – did you forget the Hindus that were burned alive prior to riots in Gujarat? Or that the Ayodhya mosque was built on the same spot (by Babar the barbarian) as birth place of Lord Ram and to date Hindus are denied that spot for worshipping? But then all you remember is the food you get to eat on Ramzan and ID. Sold your soul for food?

Posted by: WhykillGS | April 8, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

ROTFLMAO! Now, going to Pakistan and visiting the family of a friend makes one more qualified than meeting and knowing the leaders of eighty countries? What a freakin’ fool he is. He lived in Indonesia when he was a little boy of 6-10 years old! He knows jack about Indonesia OR Pakistan.
Heaven help us if he’s our nominee. We can say hello to President McCain. Unbelievable. The Democrats had this election in the bag and then they go and pick an idiot like Mr. Hope to be their nominee (with the help of the MSM who all want John McCain elected). Never underestimate the ignorance of the American voters.

Posted by: Vickie | April 8, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Namratha:
Why do you have your salwar in a bunch? GS is not asking about Taj Mahal. By continuing to be rude – you are doing a fine job of publicity for Hyderabad.

Posted by: Mat | April 8, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

You who have decided that Obama is MLK, JFK, Mandela and Ghandi rolled into one savior whose time has come need to chill a little.
Our Constitutional process is not a beatification. It lets the mobocracy have at the candidate and check him for warts. Sorry, but that is how the game is played.
If Obama can pass the great national examination, he will be elected. But saying people are “haters” because they doubt the man is mindless. Right now, Obama is at the plate with bat in hand. Some of you want to declare him a winner before the first pitch is thrown.
I don’t know if he can hit any better than he can bowl. And visiting Pakistan for a few weeks as a college kid does not qualify him for as assistant manager of sneakers at Payless Shoes. Get real.
Let the man explain why he deserves the office. If “hope and change” does it for some, it is inadequate for others.

Posted by: david | April 8, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

I stopped watching CNN as it has become ONN (Obama News Network). Never watched MSNBC as they are the MOST biased channel. Now a days, only Fox (for a surprise) and ABC are the ones who report stories and not spin it Obama’s way.

Posted by: chiman | April 8, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

NEW AD TO GO ALONG WITH HIS “I DON’T ACCEPT MONEY FROM BIG OIL*WINK*WINK*”
“IT’S THREE A.M. AND I, SENATOR OBAMA, HAVE THE MOST FOREIGN EXPERIENCE OF ALL THREE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT”!
lol.
If you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you!

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

I wonder how many aspiring US college students from Hawaii went to visit Southern Pakistan on their breaks in 1981???
Doesn’t this sound just a little bit strange to anyone?

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

And for the love of all that is good in this world, stop playing the race card anytime someone says something less than favorable about Obama. If we screamed sexism every time you all said negative stuff about Clinton, you would go ballistic. It’s beyond ridiculous and it just isn’t true.

Posted by: LOM | April 8, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Hyderabad in the 1980′s is described as a mecca for child prostitution. It is described as tribal in that it was sanctioned by the culture.
“The only detailed information concerning it comes from a study conducted by the Joint Womens programme in Hyderabad and Secunderabad in early 1980′s.”
Here is the article and study:

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 8, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

This borders on Xenophobia. Oh he visited Pakistan, he was around Muslims, we should highlight this immediately!

Posted by: AJ | April 8, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Oh yeah not only is it strange to go to Southern Pakistan as a Hawaiian College student on break, but then to hide it for a year while running for President is also just a little odd.

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

I spend 22 years of my life in Russia, where I was born. I think I am more qualify to be a president than Obama. What a joke this Obama is.

Posted by: Phillip | April 8, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

I still think he must be intentionally misspeaking Hyderabad, Pakistan for Hyderabad India.
I’d like to see his passport stamp from India or a return flight from there to show that it wasn’t Hyderabad Pakistan he actually visited, for some mysterious reason.

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

So connect the dots here people.
The man does cocaine frequently and casually in his youth, visits southern Pakistan while on break in College, has ties to the weathermen, the New black Panther Party and went to an anti-American church for 20 years. Add to this his most Liberal Senator record, his inexperience, inability to convene even one meeting since being a senator, ties to an indicted felon who helped him buy his house. etc etc. Oh i forgot he has to disenfranchise Michigan and Florida, 8% of the electorate to win the nominaton.
Does anyone really believe this man can win an election against the Republican attack machine? Like him or not, the man is completely unelectable.

Posted by: s.b. | April 8, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Tapper heard some new from Obama and asked for more information. Sounds like a professional responsibility for a professional journalist who is covering the news. But, WOW, that very act makes him anti-Obama.
Am I right to suspect that a lot of people are on constant pins and needles that Obama is going to be exposed?
What do you fear with your labels of Xenophobia, Haters, etc? You don’t think your man has the stuff to win?

Posted by: david | April 8, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

s.b.
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN!

Posted by: Mat | April 8, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

As a ultra right wing conservative, I am disappointed that Mr. McCain will be our next president. I will support Mr. Obama in an effort to reveal the true efforts of the Democratic Party, which is Socialism. Obama is a communist…enjoy!

Posted by: rightofrush | April 8, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

@spock: Fear is the lone tool of Cowards! (and I’m no Obama supporter}

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

@ AJ
I don’t think Hillary supporters care if the place he visited had a large population of Muslims or not. I know Obama’s not a Muslim, but if he was we would not care, we respect that religion just like any other religion. To be honest I would prefer him to be a practicing Muslim than having a relationship with Wright for the past 20 years.
Anyways, CLINTON SUPPORTERS WANT TO KNOW HOW MEETING WITH A FRIEND’S FAMILY GIVES YOU MORE EXPERIENCE THAN MEETING WITH THE LEADERS OF THOSE COUNTRIES?
DOES HIS FRIEND’S FAMILY HAVE POLITICAL INFLUENCE? DOES THE FAMILY MAKE ANY IMPORTANT DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTRY?

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

I asked America how it wants to treat its own Mandela…..John gave me a great answer…in CAPS (because Americans think if it is in caps, a foreigner can understand English!!) OK, John…I understand.
John:@ outsider
YOU HAVE A WARPED VIEW OF WHAT IS GOING ON THIS RACE.

Posted by: outsider | April 8, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Black Sheep posted:
“Barack Obama is a born speech maker. This has been a real asset to his career as an lawyer”
His accomplishments as a lawyer are very scant. I doubt he ever tried a case, himself. He argued one appeal. Even as Editor in Chief of Harvard Law Review, he never had anything published. That is unprecedented.

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 8, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

It is unlikely that Senator Obama went from Karachi to Hyderabad in Southern India. It is almost certainly likely that someone in the Obama campaign or an editor of the story is misstating this — he is most likely to have gone from Karachi to Hyderabad (Sindh, in Pakistan), about a 100 miles from Karachi.
One should not rely on the geographical knowledge of the editors and campaign staff (or whoever was trying to be helpful and probably inserted India after Hyderabad). There are no flights from Karachi to Hyderabad in India anyway, and no one goes there except through a major Indian city, where he would have then spent some time also. Incidentally, Hyderabad in India is diverse city with a majority Hindu population, not a predominantly Muslim city.
There was no Al-Qaeda or Taliban in 1981 in Karachi. The Taliban came to power in Afghanistan many years later. The extremist madrassah’s were also showed up in Karachi later in the 1980s.
The province of Sindh, except for a substantial non-Sindhi minority dominant in its capital Karachi, is majority Sindhi. Sindhis, the ethnic group Ms. Bhutto belonged to, are predominantly liberal, pacifist Sufis and strongly opposed to madrassahs, Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

Posted by: Shikarpuri | April 8, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Oh common now since obama has been in Pakistan you conservatives will say he was meeting with Osama. And that he is a manchurian candidtate

Posted by: iwalon | April 8, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

@ outsider
Obama is NOT scrutinized in the media at all.
and he’s no Nelson Mandela, don’t insult Mandela.

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Hyderabad in the 1980′s is described as a mecca for child prostitution. It is described as tribal in that it was sanctioned by the culture.
“The only detailed information concerning it comes from a study conducted by the Joint Womens programme in Hyderabad and Secunderabad in early 1980′s.”
Here is the article and study:

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 8, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

By the way, no one is calling you racist just because you disagree with Obama or his supporters. I don’t agree 100% with any of these candidates. You’re racist when your comments lack any real grounds except for racism. If you don’t fall into that category then don’t defend those who do. Your problem is that you think racism is so important to black people. WRONG. We don’t care about racism as much as we care about a majority group that abuses its power. Power that is supported by our tax dollars and/or our labor just as it always has been. This is my country and I can say what I want to while I’m in it. My ancestors chose torture over suicide so that I could one day have that right.

Posted by: Hube | April 8, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

I just want to know if the friend’s name was Osama.

Posted by: Huh | April 8, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Obama was fortunate to spend three weeks in Pakistan around 1981;however, this experience is twenty-seven years old. How valid is it today and how much does he remember about it? It appears he just remembered that he made the trip.

Posted by: Kelley | April 8, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Hillary should now admit that Obama has more experience, at least when it comes to Pakistan. Gotta luv it!

Posted by: RonPaulSupporter | April 8, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Obama’s penchant for saying stupid stuff like this only compounds the problem presented by his lack of experience. Many Americans have travelled extensively and lived abroad. Obama’s confusing this type of personal experience with what is required to lead the United States of America is laughable.
I find his inexperience really troubling. Even putting aside national security, his lack of credible economic experience is staggering. He can mock McCain on the economy, but the fact is that McCain has been on the commerce committee longer than Obama has been in the Senate.
Obama does not have a clue when it comes to economics. His career as a law school teacher and community organizer hardly makes up for his lack of economic experience in the government.
I know, the Obama supporters’ standard reply—Obama’s judgment makes up for his utter lack of experience. I don’t buy it. What kind of judgment did Obama show when he sat passively for 20 years as Jeremiah Wright spewed invective against the country that Obama now aspires to lead. Very poor judgment indeed. This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with being fit to lead this country.

Posted by: NJH | April 8, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

I would be interested to know WHO the college buddy is and what that buddy is doing now.

Posted by: discovered | April 8, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

@Kelley: A sound, rational question. At his age at the time of the visit, it’s most likely that Obama simply took in the cultural aspect of all he witnessed and participated in. It’s “something”, but not exactly fundamental understanding of how the world works either, as Obama has claimed.

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

more hype. im kind of tired of all the bs. when are we going to have an election that deals with issues that pertain to the serious problems we have here at home? i wouldnt vote for obama because of the way he treated that guy that wanted to take a picture with him. never mind about that, it was more how obama looked at him. one facial expression can make a story. then we have the story of his church preaching hatred and blame? i have heard obama blame and have seen the eyes of hatred. i have heard rumors that obama is praticing islam? is he a christian muslim, and which faction of islam is he loyal to?

Posted by: pirate bonehead | April 8, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

@ Ron Paul Supporter….
Hillary should now admit that Obama has more experience, at least when it comes to Pakistan. Gotta luv it!
—————————-
The Senator (Hillary Clinton) and her delegation arrived early on Sunday.
She later flew into Pakistan’s eastern city of Lahore and met President Pervez Musharraf.
Really?
I think obama should admit he’s full of…

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Obama isn’t arrogant, he’s correct.
McCain & Clinton both seem to think that the best way to fight al-quida is to attack countries that don’t harbor the organization. Obama is the only candidates saying that Pakistan (where Osama Bin Laden is) should be considered.
It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been playing the game if you can’t admit reality. Obama has proven he knows more about foreign relations if only for the fact that he’s dealing in reality and not conjecture and fear to fulfill an ulterior motive.
I hope people take Rove’s cue and begin calling Obama arrogant as the new insult ‘de jour’, because it gives him the chance to point out that despite Clinton and McCain having decades of ‘experience’ all they have to show for it is a working knowledge of getting what they want, regardless of whether it best for this Nation or whether it even has grounding in the real world.
The reason the mud slinging hasn’t hurt him and it won’t hurt him, is because it’s difficult to go from someone who is speaking truth to someone who is telling you that up is down and that Iran is a bigger threat to this country than the man who already attacked us. It’s sad that such old powerful figures in the parties have to be called out on their ignorance, but it has to happen for us to get to the work of finally fighting this War on Terror based on the reality of where the threat truly is.

Posted by: Jared Pitts | April 8, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

The reason why Obama doesn’t publicly tout his trip to Pakistan more frequently is because most of us know that there have been more than a few American college aged men who have gone to Pakistan in order to train with and become al Queda terrorists.
Perhaps Obama is coming out with this information now because his passport was breached and he knows he can no longer keep his trip to Pakistan a secret.

Posted by: OxyCon | April 8, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

I really enjoyed Dan Abrams several weeks ago when he interviewed Susan Rice, one of Obama’s Foreign Policy advisors. He asked her to describe Obama’s foreign policy experience. She responded that he has been interested in foreign policy ever since he was an undergraduate. Even Abrams had to laugh at that. She seemed to think it was a good answer.

Posted by: cappamore | April 8, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

My arrogant pontificating is indicative of my mother’s mating habits with barnyard animals.

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

@ Jared Pitts
The mud slinging hasn’t hurt him because the MEDIA decided he will be the Democratic nominee.
Just like the MEDIA decided Kerry be the nominee in ’04 and where did that get us?
More BUSH!

Posted by: John | April 8, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

WHAT IS THE POINT HERE ABOUT BEING SURPRISED THAT HE VISITED PAKISTAN. WHAT IF HE SAID HE VISITED PERU? SOMETHING TELLS ME MR. TAPPER WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN A WORD. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY DUMB NOT TO BE AWARE OF THE INNUENDO HERE. MR. TAPPER WHY IS A VISIT IN 1981 NEWS? ALSO WHY DID BRIAN ROSS PICK MID-MARCH TO DO THE WRIGHT STORY? THAT INFO HAD BEEN OUT THERE FOR A YEAR. IF IT WAS IMPORTANT THE STORY SHOULD HAVE BEEN RUN IMMEDIATLY. WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR ANY DELAY? WOULD PETER JENNINGS APPROVE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING?

Posted by: randall | April 8, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Well, folks, Obama was not saying 3 weeks in Pakistan is what qualifies him to be president. Among many other things, the context was that he’s known longer than any other candidate the difference between Sunni and Shia, which among many other things is indeed a relevant factor in deciding who will make intelligent foreign policy decisions. McCain may have just learned the difference last month—not sure when HRC figured it out.
This is merely a fact used to bolster Obama’s overall argument that understanding people and cultures other than our own is an asset, and perhaps a greater one than the whirlwind 1-4 day tours surrounded by handlers, embassy staff, and political elites HRC mostly has done, in making sound judgment calls in foreign policy. Now, I think it’s fair enough to argue the other side there, but on this board I think a lot of people are mischaracterizing what Obama has said.

Posted by: stan | April 8, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Obama never used the word “experience”, although it’s since been taken out of context over and over. He was talking about his judgment, knowledge and understanding of world affairs in comparison to Clinton’s unquestioned assertion of experience based on VIP meet-and-greets. The author of the BLOG, who is an acknowledged Hillary voter reinterpreted his statements as claims of experience. She has also posted several other interpretive “pieces” on Huffington.
For example, these headlines:
“Obama Hams It Up, Flirts, And Gets A Bit Cocky”
“Obama Plays Nice In Pennsylvania”
“The Obama Balloon Loses Air Over Texas”
or this account:
“Obama exits, shakes a few hands — there aren’t that many eager spectators, so it’s looking like Philly isn’t as easy a lay as Altoona –and moves on down the sidewalk. The light catches the fabric of his suit. You know he is vain, because only fit thin guys can get away with shiny fabric.”
As long as a blog is understood to be an unconfirmed personal account/opinion and not an unbiased news source, there’s nothing wrong with it.
But in this age when internet news sites blur the line between “article” and “opinion”, and little authenticity is confirmed and none expected, it’s disappointing to see established news outlets follow the same trend.

Posted by: Adam | April 8, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Drip Drip Drip Pakistan & Hyderabad
Drip Drip Drip

Posted by: Al | April 8, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

So many haters on these pages, so uninterested in the point of the discussion but desperate to find a way to justify racism and conservative agendas. Why care? Governments should represent the moral common denominators, not YOUR common denominator.
Obama’s point is valid, and I may not vote for him. If you have ever done any longer-term travel/living abroad, and lived among the people of another country for a given period of time (and NOT as a missionary, for your incidental purpose is the destruction of others’ beliefs and cultures), you would know that politicians’ trips mean little. McCain learns to hate and kill and survive in an unpopular Vietnam, and you don’t think that experience won’t imbue foreign policy? Give me a break.
Obama visited these places because of family ties and what appears to be genuine curiosity. These two things haven’t led half of U.S. senators to get passports, and a meaty portion of the half that do probably were prompted to get them for their jobs. Why sit around condemning a man that tried to understand other people’s lives, something George Bush has NEVER done?

Posted by: Silas Marner | April 8, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Iam from Hyderabad, India. Hyderabad is a high-tech city, (silicon valley of india). Lot of Americans work and live in Hyderabad. Microsoft, Intel, IBM have offices in Hyderabad.
Hyderabad is also 40% muslim.
Is it possible that all the american companies who opened branches in Hyderabad support terrorism?? Som ething to think about

Posted by: Mark | April 8, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Hey, John! Is your Mom still around? I’m kind of fascinated with the whole barnyard animal thing!
P.S. This stuff is better than the O.J. trial!!

Posted by: rightofrush | April 8, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Keep it Obama supporters the more you deny the facts about him the better chances he will lose.
As far as Pakistan goes, he know s the least, see Musharref is an ally, and he is in a tricky situation. And if we go in there is no guarantee we get Obama but there is a guarantee we lose an ally. because Musharref will be overthrown!
I find it fuuny that Osama will talk with our enemies but not our allies. I mean he insulted our strongest Ally Australia.
He believes we should let Al Qeada regroup instead of keeping them on the defense.
He wants to raise our taxes so he can get his wife another raise!!

Posted by: spock | April 8, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Anyone into necrophilia? My mommy’s dead and I like to watch.

Posted by: toby | April 8, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

No candidate should be given a cakewalk, it does not serve any of us well. Obama should be vetted the same as Clinton and Mccain, this is not a Miss Congeniality contest. This is no game it’s our future.

Posted by: Tina D | April 8, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

it is so rediculous!
Obama was educated in Indonisia between 6-10 years old .everyone should thank Indonisian for educating a good president for U.S, ALthough Indonisia cannot educated a good president for themselves.
every one should thank Kenya give a good president to U.S

Posted by: collins | April 8, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Despite what Limbaugh’s “Conservatives-for-Hillary” crowd says, it will be an advantage to have a president who understands several foreign (especially, non-Western) cultures well. Although having courtesy tea ceremonies with leaders or their wives shouldn’t be dismissed as meaningless, that isn’t a substitute for getting to know the people of a country. Admittedly, though, these are minor points. Clinton and Obama are close on most issues; either would be better than McCain by far.

Posted by: chain8 | April 8, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

To Silas:
I guess it’s only o.k. to hate on Christians! And, your mention of “moral common denominators” is amusing. Now, the left(you) thinks morality is a math equation. Enjoy 4 more years of the war-mongering Republican Party, cause the only chance the Left has is if Obama and Hill join forces. Fat chance!
I’ll pray for your soul.

Posted by: rightofrush | April 8, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

During the campaign in New Hempspire, Obama made clear that he does not share the views of Democrats who downplay the risk of Islamist terrorism. He also talked about Muslims who seek to create a repressive caliphate. “To defeat this enemy, we must understand who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for.”
A Great speech right!
But in quelling another race-related flap involving Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan. Obama said “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan,”
Clearly, his speeches and the friends he associates with shows a real Obama – A person whose talks and actions rarely found coherent. Labeling him a man of double-talks is not unfair.
Actually, he is very consistent in his behavior. Take Rev. Wright issues and listen to him on video. He unconsciously exposes his mind and the “truth Obama”.
You can imagine what he did in Pakistan for 3 weeks. Going to church?

Posted by: Substance | April 8, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Barack Obama says that he feels he has better knowledge and understanding. He did not say anything about “more experience”.
Members of the press and representatives of the RNC then turn around and ask Hillary and the McCain campaign, “so how do you respond to Obama’s claim that he has more foreign policy experience?” – even though he never said that.
So not only is the (supposedly “liberal”) media guilty of bad reporting, they’re actually twisting candidates’ words and feeding them to Clinton and McCain as ‘talking points’ that never existed in reality – and are doing the RNC’s job for them in the exact same way RNC surrogates are. And Hillary’s perfectly happy going on Fox (again) with her “Hillary cackle”.
The media is doing a great disservice to the citizenry, and is failing to act in the public interest. The media needs to stick to reporting the news, not influencing it or creating it.

Posted by: Chris R | April 8, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

I will take Obama’s “foreign experience” over that of the other two “experienced” candidates for sure now. That they have been running the very committee that allowed the $ 3 Trillion and climbing failure that they call a war tells me all I need to know about their “experience”. Taking the disneyland tour of other countries mirrors exactly what they have done here, taken the disneyland tour of America. We have problems out here, we have problems over there, they are out of touch. Replace them with the best choice, the only person that is NOT A CROOK OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Posted by: William | April 8, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Obama is an egotistical mainiac. He now admits he needs a VP with a little more foreign policy experience than he has, (See Huffington Post 4/8/08). These and other Obama should put the nail in his coffin if Americans still have any sense? Also, his campaign supporters are calling for her to step aside? Oh yeah, he would like that wouldn’t he. If the shoe were on the other foot, Obama behind Clinton, not one person would be telling him to get out! All I can say is, you better be careful what you ask for people. Hillary Clinton has more grit and promise for America, in her little finger, than all the nasty folks insisting on her withdrawal. God help “US” all if Obama does get the nomination. I am truly fearful for our country, for the first time in my adult life, because of the shape we are in at this time in America, for a rookie senator to take on the tough challenges we face. He, my fellow Americans, is not up to the task. Hillary on the other hand is the only candidate left who is up to this daunting challenge. I suggest we all step back and look at where we are in this country and proceed onward with this nominating process.

Posted by: Mary O'Bryan | April 8, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I agree with the first comment (by Greta). He was in Karachi, and I expect his friend’s family discussed the problems in the FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas) which have NEVER been under the control of the government of Pakistan. I expect Obama DOES understand what’s going on, unlike some of the posters here who apparently think Pakistan is one homogenous group of people.

Posted by: Tom J | April 8, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Tina D.
Your reaction & comment leads to think that you don’t realize that the clown that is Commander-in-Chief now has/had no experience in forgien affairs. If that guy can get elected and drag down this country then anyone one should be given a shot.

Posted by: Mary B. | April 8, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

After reading through most of these INCREDIBLE comments, it’s apparent: most of the bloggers on this board wouldn’t vote for Obama even if he spent every minute of his life in the United States, wearing a flag pin on every item of clothing he owns, as a practicing Quaker!
The two things you REALLY want from him, he can’t give you. He can’t have a caucasian biological father, and he WON’T renounce the name given to him by his father.
If these bloggers did truly represent the voters of American (thank GOD they don’t), this country would really be in BIG trouble. Shameful, shameful posts!

Posted by: KimJ | April 8, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

@rightofrush (and all your other cowardly login names)
Always nice and cozy spewing from the sidelines without the courage to strap on a helmet and get in the game. Mommy must be _so_ proud. ; )

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

WestCoastMessanger and HillLovers, Musharaf is a tribal leader, a dictator and we all know that official visits and meetings are a painting in rose of the reality. Obama has lived with people and know how they feel and think about life and the world, these are not security briefings or tea-parties with kings or queens or dictators around the world. That is the real difference between Obama and Hill the Bosnian General and McNasty the Governor general of Bagdad. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | April 8, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Mary B, I think everyone should be given a chance. But everyone should be asked questions, not not given a pass just because he has a nice personality. That is how we got the idiot in the WH, lets not do it again.

Posted by: Tina D | April 8, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

The “game” is over. McCain wins!

Posted by: rightofrush | April 8, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

McBush the 3rd …… Because America Owes It To Him!

Posted by: toby | April 8, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

As I recall, President Bush did not know who the President of Pakistan was when he ran for president. You haters out there praised and voted for President Bush but when a Columbia Harvard educated man who is world traveled comes to handle the same task you have issues, problems and pure hatred. How pathetic!

Posted by: rhonda | April 8, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

America is trully an amazing country in
that you can have such great minds living side by side with ignorant ethnocentrics like the ones displayed here.
You will need a major attiude change if
you are to recoup global prestige in the 21st century.

Posted by: kayihura | April 8, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

How can Obama count his 4 year-old young babyhood life as his experience……..
He might not even read….LOL

Posted by: True Truth | April 8, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Don’t be silly, Gojeda! They didn’t have Budweiser in Viet-Nam until the 1980s.

Posted by: rightofrush | April 8, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Are you calling McCain a liar?

Posted by: Mark Eagle | April 8, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

That is laughable!! I have just updated my resume with “foreign policy experience” as I have lived out of United States more years than Obama. He is going to embarrass this country.

Posted by: V,CA | April 8, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Now this is the ultimate in experience….By the way who was the “friend” from Pakistan and what exactly did Obama learn that will help him with foreign policy decisions?
Naturally most of the mainstream media will stay away from this one…and when Clinton brings it up there will be lots of charges of racism….
Is there anyone out there in the media that is getting a little nervous about the “Selling of a candidate”?

Posted by: Jackie | April 8, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Shouldn’t the headline here be…”The Nuanced Truth About Obama’s Foreign Policy Experience”?

Posted by: Jackie | April 8, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

“Obama has lived with people and know how they feel and think about life and the world, these are not security briefings or tea-parties with kings or queens or dictators around the world.”
That is a bold stretch to liken 3 weeks in Pakistan and a few years in Indonesia to worldly experience that eclipses anything that McCain or Clinton have done. He has given NO details about what he did in Pakistan. The MSM should ask him.

Posted by: LOM | April 8, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Obama was dead on straight about Hillary. The way she tells it, she was under fire. Only a true idiot would walk a greeting line shaking hands and smiling with their only child in tow while “under fire”. Hillary’s experience was get off the plane, meet and greet embassy folks and socialites or spouses of leaders. She would have you believe – in the face of videotaped evidence to the contrary – that she negotiated ceasefires, solved world hunger… why, if Al Gore looks the other way for a minute, she’ll lay claim to inventing the Internet and winning a Peace Prize for bringing world leaders’ attention to global warming!

Posted by: Roja | April 8, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

@Roja: The only thing Clinton has said is that _while in flight, she was advised that there may be a risk of sniper fire_. She never claimed, at any time (for the chronic myopic among us), that she was under fire. End of your lie.

Posted by: backbeat | April 8, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

I would like to know who the friend is. I think it is a fair question considering his other buddies including Wright and the Chicago Bomber/Activist guy. (could not remember his name) Obama has stated he chooses his friends very carefully.

Posted by: Ken | April 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

At least Obama knows the difference between Shiites and Sunnis, and Al Qaida and extremist militia. That’s more than you can say for the media’s vaporware “foreign policy” expert, John McCain.
But hey, McCain did finish 894th out of 899 midshipmen in his Annapolis class! So somewhere out there there are at least 5 Navy veterans who know even less than he does. Maybe the media should track them down and ask them some simple questions about the middle east and see if they do any better than McCain.

Posted by: Mark | April 8, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

My daughter graduated from a well known ivy league type college. She had one roommate from Turkey and another from India. So Obama had a friend from college from Pakistan…so what? If there was anything to it…why would his campaign bring it up? When the polls show that the more intelligent people support Obama while the less intelligent support Hillary…they were telling the truth.

Posted by: nancy | April 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Oh Come on! A college trip to Pakistan as example of foreign affairs experience?
I think Senator Obama is feeling the fatigue of the campaign to make such an outlandish statement…
it will come back to haunt him…

Posted by: Evelyn | April 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

At best, his purported experience is embarassing, at worst, he’s pathetic.
Note too, his use of the word “bragging” as it relates to Mrs. Clinton in her role as First Lady.
Did all First Ladies who traveled widely – some to war zones – “brag” about what they learned as they traveled the world on behalf of the American people? He has a lot of nerve insulting the authenticity of our First Ladies as well as the many hundreds, thousands of people from around the world who hosted them.
Obama has an outsize ego – and the need to inflate his own experience at the expense of anothers.
The more we learn about him ……

Posted by: s. valenti | April 8, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Let’s see, I’ve lived for two years in Europe, traveled all over the place – have many international friends, I guess that qualifies me to nominate myself to the Presidency. Give me a break!
Obama is an egomaniac.

Posted by: morningside | April 8, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

BO is a scary joke. Democrats must nominate Hillary if we want a viable option for getting out of Iraq. He touts his experience as a 10 year-old but doesn’t want to talk about going to the madrassa. (and I don’t care whether he was a Muslim or not, it doesn’t matter to me.) The point is that if foreign policy is BO’s strong suit because he lived overseas as a child and went to Pakistan for a 3 week vacation as a college student — we are in serious, serious trouble for having him even this close to being the nominee.

Posted by: ann | April 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

“When Senator Clinton brags ‘I’ve met leaders from eighty countries’”
This guy is truly arrogant. Presidential election aside, it is just not cool to denigrate the work of any first lady.
Somebody get this guy a towel because he’s going to be wiping egg off of his face soon.

Posted by: Saras | April 8, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

I know most say we have to evaluate Hillary on her own credits. Thats fien but here the bottom line about Hillary’s foreign experience. Not only does she has her own, but will have her husbands who just happened to be an ex-president and can serve her as counsil in case an international crisis…so please. Obama cannot win on this one.

Posted by: Jim Turney | April 8, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

I know most say we have to evaluate Hillary on her own credits. Thats fien but here the bottom line about Hillary’s foreign experience. Not only does she has her own, but will have her husbands who just happened to be an ex-president and can serve her as counsil in case an international crisis…so please. Obama cannot win on this one.

Posted by: Jim Turney | April 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

the ad writes itself.
rotflmao

Posted by: so saddened | April 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Obama is correct. Hanging out with a few elites in various countries is different from living among the citizens. Yes, it is all part of a life’s experience.

Posted by: Andrew | April 8, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Obama is not talking off the top of his head here. He is referencing the kind of critique of the American foreign policy establishment made in _The Ugly American_ and by many other Vietnam-era commentators, who argued that the State Dept. focuses too much on elites and “rational actor” politics and too often fails to appreciate what’s really going on in foreign cultures. So, for example, Vietnam was understood as a communist conspiracy led by China and Russia, instead of an indigenous nationalist movement pitting traditional southern Buddhists against rich Catholic emigres from the north (aligned with the French) and northern one-state nationalists. Recent events certainly offer little evidence that the State Dept has much changed or improved. Only the armed forces show signs of much greater sophistication.

Posted by: Bruce | April 8, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Visiting foreign countries doesn’t give one foreign policy experience. However, Obama is good on listening, so that’s why it makes a difference. He is empathic, and so he has a better chance at getting at the root source of the problem.
You can’t really solve the problem if you don’t know what the problem is. Obama knows how to get to the heart of the problem, and whether we want to deal w/ it is another matter.
Obama has shown that he has a good learning curve, so there’s a great potential in him. Hillary, despite her claim of experience, has not demonstrated it thus far in this campaign.

Posted by: Trang | April 8, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Within 24 hours more or less:
He makes a mistake that there is a “president” of Canada — Hello? Prime Minister anyone?!
And now, three weeks backpacking in Pakistan more than 20 years ago is “foreign” experience? If he weren’t trying so damn hard to spin this into something HUGE it would be reduced to the laughing attack that it merits.
I lived in London for 10 months. Where do I apply to work as a diplomat?

Posted by: beebop | April 8, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

“Obama has shown that he has a good learning curve, so there’s a great potential in him”
We don’t have time for on the job training. You wouldn’t hire a kid right out of MBA school to be CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, would you?

Posted by: LOM | April 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Ok – so I have traveled all over this world, lived in Europe half of my life, and now that makes me qualified to be president?? Give me a break. This guy is grasping at straws, and it makes him look and sound just plain arrogant. He has no experience, and lying doesn’t make up for it.

Posted by: NickSP | April 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I used to be a buyer and traveled all over the world.
Does it make me qualified as a president?

Posted by: crisis08 | April 8, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Did anyone else wonder who financed this world traveler?? I guess Obama did not have to work in the summer to pay tuition, like most students.
Wasn’t he supposed to be “poor?” Not only did he not have to work, he had money to travel the world.

Posted by: countallthevotes | April 8, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

countallthevotes
Good point. Unfortunately, with Obama, we’ll never know.

Posted by: S | April 8, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

I lived four different countries for more 20 years. Am I qualified to be command in chief? Obama is very arrogant and he should not paint the former first lady and senator Clinton like that. He should pay respect to her and recognize some of her skill and talent. She had talked to some foreign leader and wifes. He just like any politician that like to distort the truth.

Posted by: stephanie | April 8, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Personally, I don’t think Obama can compete with Hillary on Worldly experiences. For one, he has never come under sniper fire. Hillary however, has come under numerous(0) attacks.

Posted by: moush | April 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

@ crisis08
Wow, some people have a really distorted view of the truth. Obama was never educated at what you would call a “madrassa”. Way to believe the right wing media spin… Bet you got that one on Fox

Posted by: wessia | April 8, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

@ crisis08
Maddrasa is an Arabic word that means school. He went to an English speaking secular school. Please educate yourself before you throw around fear mongereing comments such as your previous one. I may not even be an Obama supporter, but I sure don’t subscribe to the type of idiotic hype that people lick to throw around about him. If you’d like to know what a madrassa is, there’s a good wiki on it…

Posted by: wessia | April 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

A couple of State Department workers got fired for snooping in Obama’s passport file. (Fact.) They may well have taken copies of what they found with them. (Speculation.)
Out of nowhere, Obama mentions his visit to Pakistan. (Fact.) Coincidence? Hardly. (Speculation.)
This is just the beginning of the story. “Lucy, you got some ‘splainin’ to do!”

Posted by: david | April 8, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

“Yes we can,” WHAT?
I don’t get it.

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

To be an Obama supporter I have to:
1. Never have read either of his 2 books.
2. Ignore the fact that his mom was a socialist and deny she had any influence on his value system.
3. Ignore the fact that his dad was a Moslem and deny that he had any influence on his value system.
4. Ignore the fact that his minister/mentor for 2 decades is a radical,racist,seperatist and deny he had any influence on his value system.
5.Ignore and forget everything I know about the powerful Chicago Democratic Machine that had to give its blessing and support in order for him to be elected.
6.Deny that he had any dealings with
Rezko and that his campaign contributions had any influence on his value system.
7.Routinely believe everything I am told by used car salesmen.
8.Believe in the Tooth Fairy.

Posted by: Petesghost | April 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Obama is a farce.

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Obama is beginning to sound desperate. I lived in Italy from age six to age twelve but that doesn’t make me an expert on foreign affairs. He should stop the nonsense and show how he can employ people who know about foreign policy. The true test is knowing where to look for information and answers. His speechwriters are making him appear foolish.

Posted by: Jessica | April 8, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Am I a part of the WE? Because I don’t get it.

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

What This Democratic Primary Has Taught Me…
Hillary is a conservative democrat.
McCain is a moderate republican.
Obama is a liberal socialist that will keep my race, blacks, looking for a means to become whole citizens, never finding a way and eventually becoming as content as before him in their victimhood.
And that I am the newest american republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

All the comments on here can pretty much sum up why the younger generations (including myself) don’t even bother voting. It’s always the same old he-said, she-said B.S. that never seems to end. Everyone thinks if their candidate doesn’t win, the world is going to end. If one side was right all the time, the other party wouldn’t exist by now. By the way, if you want to make intelligent arguments, at least try to come off as intelligent and do a little spelling/grammar checking. These comments look like they were written by third graders.

Posted by: Matt | April 8, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

I feel sorry for Obama supporters. Something has to be wrong with them. Right?

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

If this were April Fool’s Day, I’d be sure this was a joke. Unfortunately, this is classic Obama; a Legend in His Own Mind. I hate to bring up the 37 bowling score but think about this: this guy who has such great judgement and very little experience thought he’d just saunter into the alley and knock those pins down like a pro. Who needs schooling; how hard can it be, right? Does anyone see a correlation here between delusions of grandeur and the hard knock of reality? Obama is weak, he has trouble making a decision, his judgement is poor, he has associations with nefarious people; in short, he is not fit to be Commander in Chief.

Posted by: HoosierSue | April 8, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Mr.Tapper,
GREAT POST!…
BTW to the Obama supporters: Are you guys living in the Twilight zone??
Obama uses his 3 week trip as part of his resume for his FOREIGN EXPERIENCE??
Is OBAMA qualified to be president? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: concerned american | April 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

To wanakee….
Don’t forget during one of the 1st debates he said “I ask my staff member to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it because I will lose it”
See for yourself here – http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/15/debate-transcript/

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

So if I spent a WHOLE summer abroad in college, does that mean I have as much foreign policy experience as Barack Obama?
I mean, forget the “policy” part, right? I’ve LIVED in a foreign country (for 12 WHOLE weeks). I even have relatives living abroad and visited them and everything. So, like, I totally KNOW foreign policy, y’all.
VOTE FOR ME 2012.

Posted by: EVOO | April 8, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

To all Hillary-heads,
They only understand emotion, you have to go to our official website (of which you have to get the password from me, the president of the group) so that I can supply you with the Trans-babrack-olator. Then your words will be filled with tones of emotion, hope, unity, and the idea of this intangible transformation of all the worlds people. And wwhn you speak you will be able to relate to them in a way that make them believe that you are a part of this mystical WE that they speak about so often. It’s effective and it’s our last hope to save these people from a catastrophy that hints to be greater (though hopefully not in lives) as that of the guyana tragedy.

Posted by: nocity | April 8, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

EEVO wrote that a whole summer in another country gives him more foreign policy experience than Barack Obama…..If you are registered in all 50 states and are running (now or in the future, although I doubt it) for president, I think you should proudly highlight any areas where you can beat Obama and the others…..otherwise, try to understand that Obama did not say he has more Foreign Policy Experice….just that he understands foreign cultures better.

Posted by: outsider | April 8, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

@ outsider
Obama started off saying he was confident in his FOREIGN POLICY experience (“Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain”). He then proceeded to talk about his visit to Pakistan.
SO WHAT? I visited and lived in several foreign countries, too. Does that mean I understand foreign policy better than someone who may have spent less time but has had actual interaction and policy discussions with those countries’ leaders? And with the leaders of 80 countries?
If 3 weeks in Pakistan is the extent of Obama’s foreign policy credentials, then I am way more qualified on the “foreign policy” front.
My point is that Obama’s claim is ridiculous. Better that he stick to his “better judgement” mantra, since the “3 weeks abroad = foreign policy experience” is just pathetically weak.

Posted by: EVOO | April 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

I traveled around the world for 7 yrs on business for my Fortune 100 Health Care manufacturer. I spent 2 weeks in Karachi, does that make me almost as qualified as Obama? He is arrogant and insane to try to peddle that crap.

Posted by: terrence hagen | April 8, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

So Obama stayed in Pakistan for three weeks…that DOES NOT qualify him in the area of foreign policy. I have been to Moscow and stayed there for three weeks before journeying on to the Urals. Does this make me an “expert” on Russia? Hardly!!!!

Posted by: Richard F. Paluzzi | April 8, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

I have been to Jamaica 3 times! Count them – 3! I should immediately be appointed Ambassador to Jamaica!

Posted by: Susan | April 8, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

I have read from the Clinton supporters.Its easy to tell that they are full of lying wonders like their candiate of choice.Really who’s unelectable or electable?

Posted by: Imagine | April 8, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

I think Obama has reached a point where he believes he can say anything and no one will question it.
As First Lady Hillary Clinton played a major role as ambassador for the President as well as being involved in negotiations in many “hot spots” like Ireland where no one denies she was instrumental in uniting women from both factions.
Obama’s college trip is not experience…His time in Indonesia as a toddler does not assure he knows the people there.
Is Jake Tapper the only one in the media that will mention this? Because how sad is this. If Hillary brings it up she will be accused of attacking Obama….and in the text of this little talk, as always, he is hammering her.
So exactly what is it about being first lady that does not count as experience? The whole attitude that 4 years representing America and meeting with world leaders is not experience surely smacks of sexism!
Obama’s aggorance is wearing thin.

Posted by: Jackie | April 9, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am

did obama have visas for these countries he visited?
what nation’s passport did he travel on.
this was when obama left occidental college because he wanted to be a dentist and thought it was a dental school. occi-DENTAL!

Posted by: deroy | April 9, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

“Jackie” said, ” . . . as well as being involved in negotiations in many “hot spots” like Ireland where no one denies she was instrumental in uniting women from both factions.” Uh, I and the Irish people involved in the negotiations deny that she was instrumental. She hosted one meeting — sort of a tea.
I think the important thing is that his experience in distant country is not the rarified meeting and photo op with the powerful, but a chance to live with (even for only three weeks, in the case of Pakistan) other people to cumulatively understand their needs and motivations. Other countries’ leaders often spend a great deal of time as young people going to school in other countries. Ours don’t. So, what we end up with is leaders who substitute American high-handed desires (or at least those of its largest corporations) for what the world finds acceptable, which is one reason why Bush burned through our affinity “capital” so quickly after 9/11. Obama understands that starting wars and dropping bombs isn’t “just fine” just because it’s little brown people who are on the receiving end of American ordnance.

Posted by: UrsaM | April 9, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

I cannot help but wonder whether he and his wife are true patriots. I have not “ever” wondered whether any other leading contenders for our president have been patriotic. Does anyone have a picture of him saying the allegiance to the American flag–if so, can you please publish it? He has no substance and I am truly worried that he could become the president of our United States of America.

Posted by: Virginia | April 9, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

For me what is more important is to look at the facts and analyze objectively. I still do not understand how anyone voted for the US to invade Iraq when the facts were looked at. In that Obama has Clinton and McCain beat.
After NO Foreign policy knowledge Bush anyone would be better.

Posted by: monarnyc | April 9, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I spent a few months in Europe in my 20s – can I be the Queen of England?!

Posted by: Carolina | April 9, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Did you ask if he attended a terrorist training camp?

Posted by: Cory | April 9, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

The more I find out about this guy, the more scared I get about this country’s future if he’s elected. I can’t believe the way the media is pouring the koolaid and so many are drinking it hook, line and sinker. People – think for yourselves. We know nothing about this guy. I was watching Bob the Buildier with my son last night and who knew Obama stole his slogan YES WE CAN! He’s an arrogant phony

Posted by: MSG | April 9, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

I lived in another country from the ages of 4-12, I have relatives in other countries, I’ve visited at least 5 other countries. I think that may qualify me to be Ruler of the World!!

Posted by: Lilith | April 10, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

i’m from karachi. i want names.

Posted by: Mm | April 10, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

heres a good one, while HRC is blasting Obama on his remarks she does a little oops of her own:
“If we are striving to bring people together — and I believe we should be — I don’t think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not”
Odd that she would use those words isn’t it?

Posted by: Lynne B | April 13, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

It all sounds very innocent, “a college trip to Pakistan”.
Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.
The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:
To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every “True Believer”.
For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.
In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.
Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone’s family in 1981.

Posted by: Rob | May 3, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

In summary
He panders to any group which is the Majority.
1. the trip was not mentioned in his book
2. Pandered to the latin voters that Spanish ought to be a language we all should learn..
3. alignmnent with racists and terrorists

Posted by: sonia | July 12, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

First, it is not a college trip. It is his personal visit to Pakistan.
He stayed there for 3 weeks when it was under turmoil.
Nothing less a education in one of the religious schools is a reason to stay for 3 weeks in that country.
Why saudis go there. It is for the religious education and training.
Muslims from West who had an inclination on the extreme religion visited there other than relatives.

Posted by: sel | September 10, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Obama in ’08 is the only choice to make now that 72 year old McCain has chosen his running mate.

Posted by: JH | October 12, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

What a shame Obama claims he wants to fix this country. Sure it needs help, but not from the likes of a guy who supports a racist church, has too many questionable ties to terrorist countries, ties to questionable people, who gives ACORN 800,000 to recruit democrats who don’t even exist. It’s just too easy to cover tracks. America needs to wake up and choose the lesser of the 2 evils. Time to vote seedy, anti-american political people out of Washington. Why isn’t this all being explored?? Good question. I suppose Obama would cry racism! Well I think we could throw it right back at him! Better do it sooner than later! In the mean time, dig deep and get yourself informed! I did and I will no longer be voting for Obama.

Posted by: Dig in deep, America | October 13, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

I find this trip to Pakistan by Obama to be much more interesting than his place of birth. It is very unlikely that Pakistan would have allowed entry to anyone traveling on an American passport during those tumultuous times. If Obama had instead entered Pakistan on a, say, Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen his American citizenship would have been forfeited. I would sure like to get a look at Obama’s U.S. passport records…

Posted by: Rep U. Blican | October 19, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

How did he get into Pakistan on a U.S. Passport in 1981?

Posted by: hmm | October 24, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

As far as Im concerned..anyone on here mentioning racism or racist…its plain to see you are the ones who are racist and cant get over the fact that a black man is running for president. So stop writing all the bs about him being friends w/ terrorists and rasist churches…I think your confused and writing about yourself. You all should be ashamed of yourselves..you are the reason our economy is down and the war still goes on..you voted for Bush agian and now your going to vote for another evil greedy oil crook just because hes not black. I wish people like you couldnt vote…..its a shame that we all have to suffer because of a fews ignorance…..I didnt realize how many stupid people are able to vote..

Posted by: Grenadine | October 24, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am

Yeah…how DID he get into Pakistan on a US passport back then?
Wasn’t that a STATE DEPARTMENT NO GO at the time?
Why isn’t anyone asking these questions?
I guess the media is asleep at the switch.

Posted by: Whassamatta Jake | October 26, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

What’s strange is that Obama’s own website FightTheSmears doesn’t refute the widespread allegation that he entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
I honestly think he’s an intelligent man with great leadership abilities, but after learning about the lies in his memoirs and how he withholds basic information about his life, I just can’t trust him.

Posted by: MindMadeUp | October 27, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Barack seems to me a very smart polititian. I wonder is it enough to became an US President? How can such a person using simple populism without any experience on a leading function reach such a position. Is US so stupid? Is it a syndrom after 9.11 that a muslim should win?

Posted by: Mike Kowalik | November 3, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

First off I am glad to have seen the day when a African-American has been elected President of the United States. However, I am dismayed with the choice. Whether he is a Muslim or Christian I couldn’t care less. His honesty is what I cannot accept. He has consistantly misled if not out and out lied about his past. How does a US citizen?? travel to an area in the world in 1981 when is is offlimits (Fact). He was partially raised in Indonesia as a Muslim (Fact). Why is he so reluctant to provide information on his past, as a military member with a security clearance, I was put through the ringer. He won’t even allow his transcripts from College or medical records to be released. Privacy in the pucblic is very limited, especially if you are to be the POTUS, sorry for those who don’t agree.

Posted by: will wait | November 6, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Folks, I am a Pakistani American, and in 1981, I was living in Pakistan. A lot of the comments here are questioning how did Obama get into Pakistan which was off limits.
Let me try and address this misconception. In 1981, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the USA were all very closely aligned and strong allies fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Yes, from time to time, American citizens get recommendations from the State Department to either stay out of certain countries or to be careful visiting. BUT they are only recommendations.
On the Pakistani side, the Pakistani Government has NEVER turned back US citizens, Muslims or not. Even in this day, my wife, my 4 year old daughter and myself travel to Pakistan every Christmas so that our daughter can unite briefly with grandparents.
Now, whether Obama misled people about his trip or not, is a separate question.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks,
Nadir

Posted by: Nadir | November 8, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

I’ll throw a new one at all of you. He’s not a Muslim extremist, nor did he take Rev Wright’s views to heart. His affiliation with Trinity United was to establish left cover. I don’t think the guy has any true allegiances or principles. I think he has an intelligence background. Pakistan was the hub of CIA activity against the Soviets and was a hotbed of drug running. This doesn’t make him worse than most other presidents we’ve had, but it is strange how he kind of came out of nowhere to become the ‘leader of the free world’.

Posted by: mugwump | November 18, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

The one thing that I want to know is why he is refusing to turn over his birth certificate to the courts to prove that he was born in Hawaii? Why has he sealed all of his documents from college?

Posted by: Tom | November 28, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

His birth certificate has ALREADY been released! The State of Hawaii confirms it as authentic. There is no issue here, hello! Move on!

Posted by: Do your homework! | December 18, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

How could Obama be a “natural born” American citizen if he travelled to Pakistan under an Indonesian passport?
It doesn’t make any sense.
1. Obama claims he was born in Hawaii but which hospital, who was the doctor, what time was he born?
2. If Obama was born in Kenya, he not a natural-born citizen.
3, If Obama became an Indonesian citizen, he is either an illegal immigrant or a “naturalized” U.S. citizen, neither of which are qualified to be president, under the U.S. Constitution.

Posted by: Peter Ramsey | January 20, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Hey Peter Ramsey,
It doesn’t matter that the State of Hawaii “says” there is a birth certificate. Until it is made public, then there will always be suspicion, because Obama has proven himself to be a liar on many other issues. You have to ask yourself, why won’t he make the document public? Obviously, he is hiding something? What could it be? It is likely that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father and the whole Barack Obama Sr. exotic Africa connection story is all fabricated. If that came out before the election, he would NOT have won because it would have seriously called into question his credibility.
I will never trust him. He is a liar, pure and simple.

Posted by: Bob | January 27, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

We are here in Feb 2008,Obama has taken office and he has still not answered the questions about his Birth certificate,released any info academic or medical,It is still a mystery how he traveled to Pakistan in 81 without a US passport.He has hired 3 entire law firms to keep his past a secret.and funny enough it has been heard that he has associates that are trying to remove the clause in our constitution that limits the number of political terms a president can hold. This guy is part of something very unamerican,Im saying with even more conviction than ever,”this guy is bad for america.Obama could be very dangerous to the foundation of our nation” be wary america.

Posted by: J Dakker | February 4, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

We are here in Feb 2008,Obama has taken office and he has still not answered the questions about his Birth certificate,released any info academic or medical,It is still a mystery how he traveled to Pakistan in 81 without a US passport.He has hired 3 entire law firms to keep his past a secret.and funny enough it has been heard that he has associates that are trying to remove the clause in our constitution that limits the number of political terms a president can hold. This guy is part of something very unamerican,Im saying with even more conviction than ever,”this guy is bad for america.Obama could be very dangerous to the foundation of our nation” be wary america.

Posted by: J Dakker | February 4, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

What I find difficult to understand is; why is it so difficult to get State Department info as to whether there was a travel ban on Pakistan in 1981? The Obama Pakistan trip could all be cleared up if that info was made public. For that matter, the whole Obama legitimacy thing could be cleared up if all the documentation asked for could be made public so we can see it. That includes registration documents from his colleges showing his nationality and grants received and of course the birth certificate and State Department info on an alledged travel ban in 1981. The fact that this information is being witheld is suspiscious. I find the birther claims to be outlandish but; the stonewalling by the Obama administration lend them credence. Why isn’t the President showing his cards? He could put this whole thing to rest.

Posted by: John Jett | August 1, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

We’re told President Obama would have the most open and transparent administration of all time.
And yet the last time I checked he had spent over a million in attorney’s fees keeping his records sealed.
No college records, no long form birth certificate, no transcripts like we saw from Dubya, Kerry, Gore, etc.
I used to think the birth certificate issue was a wild goose chase, and I still think he was probably born in the U.S., but the longer he obstructs, the more I think there is really something there. And now with Gibbs mocking folks who are asking? Uh, it’s getting weirder.
It could all be handling by unlocking the documents of the past.

Posted by: Terry | August 1, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Americans were not allowed to travel to Pakistan in ’81 because of the military regime put in place by Zia. Did Obama enter Pakistan illegally? Did Obama enter Pakistan on a forgein passport, namely Indonesian? This should be a simple matter to track down. Unless the records of his crimes have been covered up or destroyed. We must remember, we have never seen the so called 4th Estate, so biased and invested in any American Administration in history. The press have willingly become PRESSTITUTES.

Posted by: nadadhimmi | August 2, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

“This last part — a college trip to Pakistan — was news to many of us who have been following the race closely.”
Lie.
Reporters for the lame-stream media were licking Obama’s boots once he became a contender in the race. And they continue even today.

Posted by: NoGuff | August 13, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

I would love to know WHO paid for Obama’s education?
I would also like to know where ALL the campaign money came from?

Posted by: PJ | August 25, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

What is Garden Plot?
What are FEMA camps/prisons for?
FEAR OF THE INVISIBLE, by Janine Roberts

Posted by: PJ | August 25, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

what is clear is that Obama is a supreme liar and cheat. He is also a racist–calling himself black when his mother is a white person.

Posted by: molensky | December 19, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am

obama is shady.

Posted by: CA | January 6, 2010, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

i do not understand why are white people so racist? they just can not take any other race doing better than them. America has not changed at all.

Posted by: Andrew | April 28, 2010, 5:02 am 5:02 am

Can anyone answer with a logical,rational answer why this man (Barack Obama) has paid nearly $2 million in legal fees to keep ALL his documents sealed ?

Posted by: CL | August 19, 2010, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

@ TERRY | AUG 1, 2009 8:22:07 PM
How does having an open administration mean you also have full access to his personal life? Transparency in your public political/work-related dealings has nothing to do with your own private life.
When you are at your own work and say you want to have an open and transparent dialog with coworkers, does that mean I can find out your home address and school records if I’m your coworker? It makes no sense.

Posted by: Shannon | June 27, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

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