On “This Week,” McCain Attacks Obama on Ayers Connection

They really want Clinton to stay in the race as long as possible, don’t they ?

Today’s lengthy article in The Washington Post about McCain’s incredibly bad if not evil temper is the beginning of the end for him.
Obama was not comparing Ayers to Coburn, of course; that’s exactly the same intentional misreading as the one that said he was was comparing Wright to his grandmother in the great PA speech.
He was only stressing the point that he, just as everyone else, can be friendly and on speaking terms with all kinds of different people, which DOES NOT MEAN that one shares all these peoples ideas, opinions and values.
Is that so difficult to accept or understand? Not for the majority of Americans, thank God.

you middle class supporters of obama
need to know about his plan to raise the capital gains tax to 28% out of the sense of fairness.
and don’t forget about the payroll tax.
it is only fair.
put that bottle of obamaade down long enough to read about this capital gains tax

deward bowles,
I am a hillary supporter
but on this morning with geo. step.
mr. mccain did seem to be starting to lean in that direction.
were you watching the “Obama,the Savior”reruns
brought to you by msnbc or cnn?
did they talk about mr. obama plan to
raise the capital gains tax to 28percent
on the middleclass?

“Unable to sell his out-of-touch ideas on the economy and Iraq…” Uh, which campaign is taking the low road?

Its about time. If the relationship between the possible next president and a terrorist wont worry this country—what will? Obama should be questioned about his relationship with Ayers. Its essential. Obama worked for terrorist William Ayers. He said he was 8 when Ayers bombed New York. Nice try. But he was 30something when he served on a board with Mr. Ayers in the 1990’s, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid, underlined PAID directorship position. They worked together, attended fundraisers together, Ayers held fundraisers and was a contributor to Obama’s Chicago’s campaign, plus they are neighbors and visited each other quite often. Enough said. This relationship deserves being vetted. As an adult Obama made the decision to work with a terrorist. This is a legitimate issue, the judgment and associations of the possible nominee. Its goes straight to the reason why democrats have lost the last two elections. It goes directly to his associations with Farrahkan, Wright, Ayers, Auchi and Refko. This needs to be fully vetted.

To Jack: Do you want to tell me that Obama is running for President in order to associate with terrorists???? Eh! come on!!!

McCain referred to Asians as “gooks”, is that extremely racists.
This info. would make Rev. Wrights utterance look like child’s play. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years.
The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.”
McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”
Why does America want a Cyborg for President, we should vote for anyone but McCain.

leanza cornett,LC
of course you are correct-but
alas, they cannot hear you,
the obama swill flows freely
they have stayed to long at the cup
and now their reasoning and thinking is
all (lc, what rymes with cup?)—— up.
middle class obama supporters check out thow in all fairness he is going to rais the capital gains tax to 28%

so where was mr. obama on sept. 11?

Obama:
As a black woman I am ashamed of you!~!

Obama is a neo-terrorist racialphobe
with no leadership abilities
beyond manipulation and plagiarism.

the point of Jake’s article is that the Republicans think Ayers and Obama relationship is fair game and do intend to use it. There is much more out there on Ayers. Bombs away!!
As to McCain’s temper? I kind of like it. You know where he stands, unlike BHO. No fancy words, just straight talking westerner.

Many of the folks here keep saying that Obama’s past associations with a known terrorist must be examined. I will assume that at least some of you are Bush supporters; yet I hear nothing from you about Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, the fact that the Republican led United States was directly responsible for training and equipping Osama Bin Laden, or the fact that Bush family ties to the Bin Laden family continue TO THIS DAY.
I wonder why that is? Certainly Hussein and Bin Laden have caused far, far more damage and strife in this country and the world than Mr. Ayers. I wonder why Republican ties to these known terrorists are never held up for any real scrutiny in the media?

jgaw (at 1:08pm)-
Middle class people can’t afford gas to put in their cars, food to put on their table, are underemployed at historic rates compared to the ever-increasing cost of living, have record foreclosure rates, many have no insurance, and an unending and unethical war costing 100′s of billions of dollars and we’re supposed to be concerned about a capital gains tax? Give me a break, the only people that benefit from a low capital gains tax are the same 1% that received Bush’s tax cut for millionaires, the same tax cut that McCain wants to extend permanently. Such a scam.

A story in the Swamp says Obama’s lead (10 points a week or so ago) has vanished. Poof!
“by Mark Silva
A 10-point advantage that Sen. Barack Obama held over Sen. Hillary Clinton in Gallup’s national daily tracking poll just one week ago has vanished – with Gallup reporting Clinton’s first marginal lead over Obama among Democratic voters in a month.
Clinton’s 46-45 percentage point edge over Obama – a statistical tie, really, but the first time that Democrats have leaned in Clinton’s direction since March 18-20 – follows the contentious debate in Philadelphia last week that Obama derided as a “gotcha” fest but Clinton claimed as a victory.
The newest survey results reported Saturday come from polling April 16-18, including two days following the debate. “Support for Hillary Clinton has been significantly higher in both of these post-debate nights of interviewing than in recent nights,” Gallup’s Frank Newport reports.”

And in the same time period Newsweek’s poll says Obama is ahead by 19%, don’t you just love when the facts can be cherry-picked depending on what you want them to say?

From yes at 1:47 PM: “Obama is a neo-terrorist racialphobe
with no leadership abilities
beyond manipulation and plagiarism.”
Let the empty Right-Wing attack rhetoric begin!!

lainindiana,
so mr. obama should have met these people and examined them. and if he had brought “change” to chicago politics
and brought in a new group instead of falling in with these “guilty” people
then I would believe he could “change”
washington.

sure jgaw, lets continue to blame Obama for what others say and do.
Now we can talk about what he SHOULD have done.
But all is well as long as ABC and FOX continue to insinuate something sinister in relation to Obama.
But these same people, with the huge glass houses, don’t want you to look in their backyard.
It is nothing but innuendo and distortion. And I believe the American people are waking up to the bs….
NOT. THIS. TIME.

(H)ow can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings
which could have or did kill innocent people?”
Is he talking about himself in Vietnam?
Flying the bombers?

Sure ‘for mccain’ he failed for not realizing that to George S Hannity guilt by association issues were more important instead of the economy or the war, or taxes.
I don’t think most people thought those issues were more important, so you had how many people taken aback because of the stupid questioning?
This questioning that most people could not answer effectively. Do you think your former pastor loves America as much as you do?
Please. That former pastor was on LBJs medical staff. That former pastor was a Marine. That former pastor has probably done more for the poor than any of these jokesters asking the stupid questions.

I am disgusted that ABC would allow their commentors to spew filth and use the N-word. Are you kidding me? I believe in free speech, but some of these comments are very threatening and malicious. Shame on you ABC and shame on all you bigots and racists. It’s 2008. Grow up!

Kanobi,
First, that was Bill Clinton and not Hillary who “pardoned” Evans and Rosenberg. I put the quotes because I actually think he granted them commutations. That means after 16-17 years of incareration, they were released from prison. Note, Ayres got no sentence whatsoever. Dohrn, his wife, received about 6 months for something minor. Rosenberg and Evans were sentenced to 40-40 years. Both Ayres and Dohrn were the actual ringleaders of the Weathermen faction of the SDS. The people like Evans and Rosenberg were the mules. Note the disparity in treatment. Also, Rosenberg and Evans were contrite. They disavowed violence as a method of change. Ayres has never been contrite; he has never disavowed violence at all. He was the son of a very powerful and rich man in Chicago. I am sure that had everything to do with the disparity in treatment by the criminal justice system. Dohrn was his lover and soon wife at the time. Hence, she enjoyed the same privilege.
These commutations/pardons by Bill Clinton were grounded in the disparity of treatment, the inequity of the sentences, and the contrition of Evans and Rosenberg.
Bill Clinton has nothing to apologize about and neither does Hillary.

Is Ayers teaching those students how to build bombs?

Vanessa,
I don’t think that Fox News and Hannity really “like” Hillary Clinton. I think they really fear Obama. It is that simple. He is exotic and has very weird coterie of political/religious friends and acquaintences. Let’s face it, he is wide open for attack for being unpatriotic in the traditional sense.

When it comes to bill and hillary, go google Peter Paul….are bill and hillary still not guilty?
Why? because they’re white?

carolyn, restrain is a good attitude here, vanessa is telling you the reality. My question to you is who told you that Bill and Hill have not sold America during their days at the White House? They signed NAFTA, sold the Lincoln bedroom to guests who can pay for it, pardon fellons for money for their library, received 800 000 from Colombia for another trade agreement which will ship American jobs to Colombia, the Kyrgistangate is not yet disclosed, etc., etc. What else you want to know about Hill’s ability and willingness to sell America to China. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

I’m glad I didn’t watch the show today. I have been a regular, loyal viewer for the entire time it has been on the air, but after Gibson and Stephanapolis insulted millions with their inane line of questioning in the recent “debate”, they both lost me for good. (They really had me fooled for years! I thought they were still OK. How wrong I was.)
The “Fourth Estate Broadcast Company” has fast become the last refuge of political hacks. Thank God for the internet and alternative media, where I will now reside. Sunday mornings no more on ABC. It is clearly time wasted.

mccain/romney, all you have are manufactured innuendo that you want to make major issues. This is exactly why we got bush.
If clinton would have kept his brains in his pants, Gore would have won.
If we didn’t have manufactured scandals like swiftboats, Kerry would have won.
The voters keep getting distracted by major bs. It is time for the innuendo and insinuations to stop.

@N’Obama
If Ayers is that bad, why is he still a faculty member at the University of Chicago, teaching the Americans of tomorrow. May be we should first attack the University of Chicago, for hiring a terrorist professor…. Why are we not even bothered that a terrorist is lecturing in one of the best universities in the country. What kind of students will he produce – Terrorist?
Oh dear…. we now have a terrorist lecturing and producing terrorist students, in an American University… May be the University of chicago is also a Terrorist institution – Guilt by Association…

kanobi11, you can take it even further. Anyone who associates with the university is guilty by association then…the professors, students, donors. The list goes on and on.

@N’Obama
If Ayers is that bad, why is he still a faculty member at the University of Chicago, teaching the Americans of tomorrow. May be we should first attack the University of Chicago, for hiring a terrorist professor…. Why are we not even bothered that a terrorist is lecturing in one of the best universities in the country. What kind of students will he produce – Terrorist?
Oh dear…. we now have a terrorist lecturing and producing terrorist students, in an American University… May be the University of chicago is also a Terrorist institution – Guilt by Association…
And like @Erin pointed out, you can take it even further. Anyone who associates with the university is guilty by association then…the professors, students, donors, including the Mayor of Chicago are all terrorist. The list goes on and on.

This is all dirt thrown in the umpires eyes.
We are spending trillions on a war.
We are in an economic crumble.
We need to turn it around.
We need our standing back.
We need our military strength back.
We need healthcare to be reigned in.
We need a President who understands what this war has cost us.
We need countries and their peoples to want to be our allies again.
John McCain won’t do that. Period.

Radical? You want radical? How about a former Republican president, who made decisions using an astrologer, and who in the 1980′s, sold chem weapons to Iraq, traded arms with Iran to support death squads in Central America, and stoked an 8 year, 3-million casualty war between Iraq and Iran. Or a current Republican President that takes weekly prayer calls from meth-addicted homosexual preachers and West Texas Armageddon Fundamentalists. And what about 9-11 and the forgotten Army Anthrax attacks on Congress? You all worry about radicalism? What do you think we’ve had for going on 8 years? Wake up!

The lack of any real news is killing me. I can’t wait for tuesday.
Obama08

You have to be tough to run for president. Everything true, half-true or not true at all is going to be brought up. Is Obama strong enough? I don’t think so.

Kim
It’s a non-issue many politicians know Ayres…and know him well this is stirred up politics. If you knew anything about Ayres you would see he’s kind of whacked obviously but many pols know this guy.
So your whole security thing… if this is the best they can do…it will be a losing point.
Obama is not a radical. That is part of the game they all are playing.
This is about the WAR the ECONOMY and John McCain’s inability to recognize the tie between the two…to look at borrowing more money from China (that’s a good security and economic move)…
and they would be doing all of this 10 fold to Clinton. All these non-relationships that you all think were fixed the first time around…you would quickly learn that if you just did a little personal recognizance you would see her scandals are lying in wait because obama wouldn’t go there in the primary and FoxNews is just waiting for her to be the nominee.
Do you really think that all of America knows the details of whitewater…no
the details of the cattle futures…no
the details of Vince Foster death and subsequent unauthorized clearing of his office by Hillary’s chief of staff as soon as the death happened…
or who Norman Hsu is…how many people do you think know who he is?…not many
how many people do you think know who Ron Paul is? not many
How many people do you think know that FBI files were taken out of FBI headquarters during the Clinton administration on their enemies and the details of the investigation that ensued? not many
How many Americans know the controversy surrounding her and her work on Watergate? not many
whether you believe these or not…whether you know about these or not… Americans don’t know these issues like you think… Hillary will bring a tsunami of scandals into the dialog…Obama has what, three? All of which are fairly easy to grasp are not threatening… Hillary’s …not so much.

Ayers is currently a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, College of Education. His interests include teaching for social justice, urban educational reform, narrative and interpretive research, children in trouble with the law, and related issues.[1]
He has edited and written many books and articles on education theory, policy and practice, and has appeared on many panels and symposia. He was tapped by Mayor Richard M. Daley to shape Chicago’s now nationally-renowned school reform program.[2]
His degrees include a B.A. from the University of Michigan in American Studies (1968), an M.Ed from Bank Street College in Early Childhood Education, an M.Ed from Teachers College, Columbia University in Early Childhood Education (1987) and an Ed.D from Columbia University in Curriculum and Instruction (1987).[1]

and I should say…Hillary’s lists go on and on I only mentioned a few quick ones off the top of my head to show…if you ask the question…have these been vetted…maybe…does the American electorate know them well and the fall out and unansewered questions from each …the answer is absolutely not.
As they don’t know the details of the Keating Five.
but we would like to saty focused on the issues at hand. the war the economy healthcare infrastructure the environment education our standing in the world.

LA in Indiana,
I agree with some of your premises. What I’m wondering, though, what is the connection of the Obama campaign to rapper Talib Kweli? Did the Obama drop promotional money to get positioning in his rap music and with other artists he’s associated with? Wouldn’t this be tantamount to payola if the campaign did such?
Are you familiar with Talib Kweli, New York City, born Talib Kweli Greene, to upper-middle class parents. This is the same Talib Kweli that has been actively promoting support for Assata Shakur, a Black Panther and cop-killer, who is on the lam in Cuba. Kweli even went so far as to visit Shakur in Cuba. I’m quite sure his hope is that Obama would pardon Shakur the cop-killer.
By the way Obama campaign promoter Kweli also has a close relationship with Minster Farrakhan. It’s just one big happy circle, ain’t it.
Kweli as well writes about revolution. He says we need politicians for the revolution.
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Obama and RapperGate, doesn’t get any better than this.
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Ole Rusty wants to take “questionable” associations
and run with it?
This geezer should not overplay his hand because
he hasn’t been vetted 2008 style.
Not to mention his wife was a raging fiend now
recovered ex drug addict.

He should have been hanging out with TD Jakes not Wright or Ayers there is no way he can win the general and it is not the younger ones but those of us who lived thru the sixty’s are not ready . we have some flags going back up I hope this has not set our country back fifty years

Hillary’s up by %14 in PA according to a new ARG poll out today!!!
GO HILLARY

Marilyn before he goes looking at Ayres and Obama…perhaps he and the other news outlets could explain the details of the Keating Five. Seems like that is not being touched and I am sure most Americans aren’t REALLY familiar with that. I bet most Americans don’t know the details.
It is the press’ duty …right to make sure they pass along anything that the American people doesn’t know…and I am sure that all these stories on the other two older candidates …America needs to be brought up to speed. Right
This is as many of you have said “the Presidency of the United States…and if Americans don’t really know all these old “vetted” stories shouldn’t the MSM clarify them…since they haven’t at all in this campaign so far?
Right?
or… we could focus on the fact that Americans are going down the tubes and some candidate wants us to just fear and attack… That is what got us here in the first place.

We are on a slippery slope wit this guilt by association push. I smell McCarthism.

oh yeah, tell the black man who is and isn’t acceptable in his life….
tell him the correct associations for running for office.
tell him to make sure he has no questionable acquaintances.
make sure you don’t touch elbows with the grocer at the grocery store, because he knew some guy, that knew some other guy that met with Farrakhan.

Michael-
Zogby says she’s only up by 3%, 46-43, and Rasmussen agrees with the 3% at 47-44. While we’re at it, PPP says that Obama is ahead in PA by 3% at 45-42. See, aren’t polls fun when you just pick the ones that support your idea.

Leanza, I don’t have 990s from all of the years that Obama served on the Woods Fund Board, but from the years that I have, he was not paid. At all. The Woods Fund is good organization which tries to help communities on Chicago’s south side. The Board meets 4 times per year. They did not “work together.” Ayers did not contribute vast amounts of money to Obama – he contributed $200 for a state house run. Obama has said, on record that he finds the terrorist acts despicable.
In addition, this idea that Obama should have known is bunk. My husband was in college during the height of the anti-war movement. In San Francisco. Before all this hoopla, I asked him if he knew who Bill Ayers was (I was researching a writer). He said who are you talking about and why should I care?”
This is red-baiting, pure and simple. That’s what people should be afraid of.

Thanks for the coverage. I love John McCain and hope that he comes back from Rove/Rushland, but I’m not holding out much hope.
There were a few things left out here – I’m guessing for the sake of space:
1) McCain pretends to be outraged that Obama would compare Colburn to Ayers. He says Colburn is a man who “brings babies to life”. That’s true. But what he leaves out is a lot. Colburn is also a man who advocates the death penalty for any doctor who performs an abortion for any other reason than to save the life of a mother (which he himself has done). You don’t have to go to a lefty rag for this information. It’s on the man’s website. It is not exactly a mainstream opinion or position. I loathe Bill Ayers, but I would not like to see doctors electrocuted and I don’t think most Americans would either.
2) Christian Ferry’s email said a bit more. Here’s what it said: “We need change in America, but not the kind of change that wins kind words from Hamas, surrenders in Iraq and will hold unconditional talks with Iranian President Ahmadinejad.” I’ve followed this campaign pretty closely. I do not recall a single time when Obama said he would “hold unconditional talks with Ahmadinejad.”
I really miss John McCain.

BB,
Obama is the new kid on the block, compared to Hillary and McCain. He needs vetting. You’d like to overlook his defects wouldn’t you? Your attitude is to get the new kid on the block in front of the nuclear trigger as rapidly as possible. Obama is a disaster when it comes to national security. Too many negative associations with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, William Ayres, Rezko, and Talib Kweli.
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Obama/Ayres ’08 — it’ll be da’ bomb!
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Hi WestCoastMessenger: I have not decided who I am voting for – and no one has ever called me a zombie before. I have 16 year old at home. She’ll be impressed.
Your timing is off. The fundraising dinner was in the late 90′s. I find it pretty doubtful that Ayers talked about the Weather Underground a lot over coffee during a small gathering in Chicago for a state senate seat. Ayer’s book was published in 2001 – and I believe he said “I’m sometimes asked if I regret anything I did to oppose the war in Vietnam and I say: no, I don’t regret anything I did to stop the slaughter of millions of human beings by my own government.” Did you read Ayer’s book? Do you know anyone who did? Had you heard the comments until this year? No.
I’m a lot more worried about a Presidential candidate who answers a serious policy question by singing “Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran” than with somebody who went to somebody’s else’s house in 1998 and that somebody bombed buildings when the other somebody was 9 years old. Does this remind you of anything? Guilt by association? Like the McCarthy witch hunt?

The Obama people shouln’t be so dismissive of McCain’s comments. This is a signal to the DNC – whether they want to listen I guess is their problem, that Obama shouldn’t have linked Ayers name with Coburns.
If Obama were the nominee, abortion – which has largely moved off the radar – would be front and center again. I can see the attack ads now!
Democrats who are anti-abortion would be yet another group that would be lost to the republicans this year – if Obama is the nominee.
Gee thanks Obama for resurrecting yet another division in our country. Good people on both sides of this issue have been working to identify common ground. You can say goodbye to that bi-partisan work.
Just what is Obama good at these days – other than insulting and dividing people abd creating ‘wedge’ issues.

WestCoastMessenger: They weren’t convicted, you’ve got that one wrong. The event at the house wasn’t a campaign kick-off, either. This is red-baiting – it’s the beginning of a new McCarthyism and that is what’s scary. Here’s what Mayor Daley has to say about it – and he’s the son of Mayor Richard Daley and is not exactly known as a wide-eyed radical”
“There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics,” Daley’s statement said. “One more example is the way Sen. Obama’s opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers. “I don’t condone what he did 40 years ago, but I remember that period well,” the mayor said. “It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40-year-old battles.” (LA Times)

NIcholas, you know you are born so smart that when you were asked which name you would like to have you have chosen Nicholas, you are one of these very smart babies who choses their own names at birth, Am I correct???Let us grow-up a bit. Do you remember where Hillary’s name came from in her own words? Hill the Bosnian General is unelectable. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

NO NIcholas,
The name “Hussein” is a semitic Arabian name meaning “handsome”. There are Arabian Christians named “Hussein” and they are persecuted TODAY much in the same way you hear about in a Sunday sermon how the 1st Christians were. “Muslim” is a person that practices “Islam”. Islam is a religion, and is therefore not exclusive to any culture or naming preference. There are MUSLIM WHITE PEOPLE in Eastern Europe that look like you, dress like you, but pray to Allah.
Please let go of your ignorance and latent bigotry. If the name “Hussein” is keeping you from considering Obama, then do a Google search and learn something about the name. And BTW, I’m an OIF veteran just back from Iraq. You sound like that woman on the ABC debate near destitution, but she’s worried about a flag lapel pin.

Kim, Great Post @ 3:19 p.m. Everyone needs to read it.
It goes to judgement. If a mid-level civil servant knows that affiliations matter to their job – and by extension to their country, then, you’d expect a presidential candidate to know as much.

Obama supporters just don’t seem to get that it’s the fact that Ayers is unrepentant – and, depending on where he put the emphasis in those famous remarks following 9/11, you could infer that he might have been speaking admiringly of Osama bin Laden.
“I regret that WE didn’t do more”. Sounds even worse than the reports.

S. Valenti: Clinton and Obama have identical positions on abortion. And I admire both their statements – because it is the first time I have heard pro-choice candidates say that there is a moral dimension to this issue which we shouldn’t pretend isn’t there. A majority of Americans (just a little over half) are pro-choice.
But I have never met anyone in my life, including my Mom, who had 11 kids, who has said that doctors who perform abortions should be electrocuted, like Senator Colburn says.
I think it takes someone with remarkable character to be able to set aside your differences and work with a colleague toward something you both believe in. I think that is what character is all about.

Why does anyone care about Ayers and his association with Obama. This was 40 years ago, Obama was a child. I douby he even remembers. Now they live in the same neighborhood, kids go to same school, he was at his house once. Ayers is well respected in the community. You guys are just paranoid and reading way to much into this. You must listen to Rush and the rest.

Just imagine if Ayers was an abortion clinic bomber and said he wishes he’d one more and has no regrets?
Now imagine McCain had fundraisers at his house.
McCain wouldn’t stand a chance in hell.

N’Obama
I have heard hate from some Obama supporters…and it comes out of frustration as many of the Clinton supporters does.
But that is not what this candidate speaks to…it’s not what he speaks of. He has many supporters that are not him… but he is not them.
I have met all the candidates … (I have said this many times about my time last year in NH) …All the candidates want to be President …no doubt…but his motivation (and look at his policies AND his words) are based on normal common sense brains…
When you clear it all away and you watch them all in a room …a small room (which i have been in with almost all of them at one time or another during all the campaigning in NH for a YEAR)… There is absolutely no doubt that
McCain was like my dad who has gotten away from the work of “hope” and “noble choices” as a way of America succeeding. I think that was because he is still that teenager trying to fulfill his dad’s long lost dream.
Hillary had more in common with Barbra Streisand or Lilith from cheers to be (simply honest) than she did with Bill Clinton. I could not help but see her comments were about “the game” and her own coronation. I say that not to be a jerk…I say that because she was like that Senior Executive that interviews you for a job and makes sure you know …that chances were you weren’t going to get it but smiles through it anyway…if that makes sense. I have issues with any parents that BOTH run for the President all the while their child (and if Hillary had run first I would have said the same thing about Bill) as supportive as she is goes around putting her parents again up on the pedestal and first to her own life.
I am not attacking her for that… I think that is this thing that I kept staring at Chelsea at any event she happened to be at in NH… and I thought…well it’s hard not to pity her a bit. I am sorry if someone finds that offensive…but it’s how I felt and that was through all the other issues I have with Sen Clinton…and those have exponentially increased since then.
Obama seemed like his sense…was my sense. There were no gaps…there were no answers to details that didn’t make sense or felt political.
But you all think that he is this bad guy. Most Americans are much smarter than that.

Well it was vivid for those of us that lived thru it thats why it matters while all are friends were dying in Nam those lucky enough not to have to go the weatherman were blowing up city’s here at home burning the flag and treating boys that had no choice bad.

…and just to throw a little light on the abortion argument that has broken out…
if you all do vote for McCain or not at all…in either direction chances are …abortions in most of the country WILL be illegal again.
He has already put that as a lead talking point (and he did it days before Obama mentioned Coburn)… and the Supreme Court probably only needs one more judge to overturn.

I can’t believe that people are actually so gullible to believe anything Obama says.
He can’t even unite his own church & community. Why would he be able to unite the country?
He can’t. All words. And he doesn’t mean a word of it.

Mara,
Really, red-baiting? So this is where the Obama campaign heads when the race card doesn’t work. Sorry, the Weather Underground is a lot different than communists. They were sort of like anarchists, but only sort of. More along the ilk of the Earth Liberation Front, but their causes were even less intellectual than ELF. Robbing banks? Red-baiting? Come on.
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Obama and Ayers ’08, it’ll be da’ bomb!
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westcoastmessenger
you are a trip… “hope” “common sense” “logic”
“quick…who’s this rapper that supports Obama” “quick he’s a terrorist! Quick…UNPATRIOTIC… he’s UNPATRIOTIC…9/11!!! 9/11!”
Focus on real things. There is one candidate who gets it, one candidate who has the best chance of getting us back on track using logic, one candidate who gets us to be the toast of the world if he is elected and that would be Barack.
and you all know it…your just frustrated and angry. Sometimes out of frustration my dad says we should “bomb the whole middle east”… and he says “Hillary is satan and she killed Vince Foster and tried to cover it up” It is out of frustration and anger (and trust me he’s not an obama supporter lol)…
The country needs hope and logic. That’s Obama.

Jo
Mccain had fundraisers and actively seeked the support of a minister who yes, “hates” an awful lot of people.
and there are many people in his party that have done a lot of very bad things…and many of them, yes, he has been associated with.
and yes, many very very bad people have raised money for John McCain.
I think he would even tell you that if he wasn’t running against Barack right now and need this to become President.

WestCoatsMessanger, if I was Hill I would hope for a support from Farrahkan et al than from Scaife, the right winger, who has helped and financed with hsi own money the impeachment of Bill Clinton, her beloved huseband. Do you want to say that Hillary has the same views and positions as Scaife? Hillary is unelectable, that is the reality. Going to bed with republicans will not help her at all she has lost her principles. She is losing the basis and the democratic party itself by association with right wingers like FoxNews, Hannity, OReilly, Scaife et al. Sleeping with the enemy will not win a war. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Mara,
It sounds like from your perspective Obama is hopelessly stuck in a time warp at age 8. Is that how you account for him giving Hillary the finger? By the way, did he learn that trick from Colbert? Slick, Obama, slick!
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Obama, is he elite enough for you?
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WestCoastMessanger, grow-up a bit, you are regurgitating what the right wing FoxNews has reported about the “finger issue” which is stupide as usual. Please do not go that low and accuse Obama for a gesture which has never happened. Despite any difficulties or heated exchanges between the 2 campaigns, Obama has a deep respect for Hillary and vice-versa. Nobody can believe one minute that these two senators will not respect each other. Let us not get the dialogue too low. Hill is unelectable and that is the reality to live with, but going to bed with republicans and the right wing 9Foxnews, Hannity, O’Reilly, Scaife, etc.) will not help her, she has lost her soul and her principals. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

WCM: You are right. And I was wrong on another thing – I think the event was much earlier. “One introductory event took place at the home of Ayers and Dohrn.” is actually what the article said.
The “Obama Zombie Mara” part doesn’t add much to your argument. It also doesn’t faze me. I live with teenagers.
Red-baiting is guilt by association. It’s what McCarthy did and what you are doing. Did Obama protest the Vietnam War? Did he bomb something at age 9? Did he kill someone? In the 50′s, if you knew someone who was suspected of being a communist, which meant that your purpose was to destroy the United States, then you were guilty by association. If the press and the right-wing media start this, which it looks like they are going to, it’s not going to destroy the Obamas, it’s going to take us back to the one of the darkest times in American history when friends reported on friends – or lied about friends to get off and the free press was censored. Does this sound like America? It sounds like China to me.

WestCoastMessanger, you are parsing my words, you are a honable guy I think, let us remain that way. What I hate to see is that Hill the Bosnian General is being embraced by right wingers like Hannity, OReilly, Scaife and Foxnews. She is abandoning her party and her people, that is what is wondering me. She has to reject these endorsements and support which are hypocritical and serve to divide the democrats and prevent them to occupy the White House in 2009. McCain cannot win but with Hill’s help he may be able to win. That is my concern. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Just because Oprah likes Mr. Obama, doesn’t mean I have too. I like Oprah, don’t get me wrong. Just because Mr. Obama speaks well doesn’t mean he is getting my vote. I want someone with experience and he just doesn’t have enough in my book. I am a registered democrat and if he runs against Mr. McCain, I will vote Republican.

This one is absurdly thin and McCain ought to get his mouth washed out with soap.
Obama must be a real stand up guy since McCain and Clinton can only get to him by playing the old association game.
Maybe it is time that some journalist took McCain and Clinton through the guilt by association vetting machine? I bet any of them could be painted as an unelectable radical nut case in no time.

Hillary can’t even run her own campaign how in the heck is she going to run this country.

coe-your suggestion that we deserve to know what kind of prescription medications mr. mccain may or may not be taking-pales in comparison to obama’s self-declared cocaine use.

BKMC..
No one should see anything wrong about Obama’s strange choice of bedfellows like Rezko, Auchi, Ayers, Farakhan and, of course, the beloved pastor Wright; they should just embrace the vision of these people and his Hamas associates parsing policy in the Oval Office to get that warm fuzzy feeling.
No one should mind that Obama voted in favor of LATE TERM abortion, either, or that he left the senate table without voicing any vote at all at all in at least 135 instance.
I don’t quite understand why anyone would want such a person leading this country… but everyone is entitled to his O N E vote.
HOWEVER….do NOT say the G-D has anything to do with his campaign!

Obama didn’t need to sit in church each Sunday to hear Rev. Wright’s anti-american, racist sermons.
Obama was well groomed by Rev. Wright’s views. He molded him and inspired him the twelve years the two of them have been UNCLE and NEPHEW.
He got them “PRIVATE” talks from his uncle, Rev. Wright!!!!
He knows

NIcholas, you may have chosen beyond your name the color of your skin before birth. Obama is black does not mean anything, he is where he is because of his leadership vision and great managerial skills. He has organized the strongest camapign you will not see in a life time. Hill the Bosnian General is now in bed with Hannity, OReilly, Scaife, FoxNews. That is the end of the democratic party, she has joined the right wing. That is not reaching out to the over side but a plan being prepared to weaken the democratic party and get McCain in the White House. Hillary is unlectale she cannot win the nomination and we all know that reality. Remember that Scaife has put more than 1 m of his own money to impeach Bill Clinton while we all were supporting him. Hill is losing her soul and principals, that is the difference. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Smart people need proof of all this political spin.
You know like lawsuits, investigations, fines…
Oh that’s right McCain and Clinton have those.
Barack has had none.
Zippo. Nilch. Nada.
They all have this crap. But because Obama is new …you all spin it and spin it…but Obama supporters will make sure the American people know the actual issues that are at stake.
You all will have a very tough time winning this time with spin. It is about our standing in the world, food prices, gas prices, crumbling infrastructure, economy, economy war, war war…losing afghanistan now and a military that is in a horrible state of affairs and one candidate acting like she some military thing and the real military guy wanting to crush the spirit and stamina of our military.
…not to mention the economy.
and that definitely doesn’t make us safer.

McCain is showing early that his straight talking, honorable image is a crock. He is resorting to the lame tactics of personal destruction just like we have seen over the years. Won’t work this time because the public is fed up with that nonsense. BTW, if he wants to play dirty, then some democratic group may just decide to air his pathetically low blow at a republican dinner back in the 90′s
where he made disparaging remarks about Chelsea Clinton’s appearance. Now there’s a leader for this country!

westcoast…
by the way
that is the only reason i can keep these blogs up on my screen and partake…because I am lucky enough after years of work to be able to now.

Stella, No. McCain’s statement was a half-truth. Coburn does apparently still work as a doctor. And I am not going to argue with anyone about pro-choice/ pro-life. I’m the 11th of 11.
Obama made his comment because Coburn has stated that the death penalty should be applied to any doctor who performs an abortion (except when the mother is endangered). It is on his website – Coburn for Senate 2010. Obama worked with the Senator on legislation for transparency for federal spending. I believe his point was that he didn’t agree with the man’s positions or record, but he was willing to put that aside to work on something he believed in. You don’t have to agree – and I imagine you won’t, but it made sense to me – not because I am an Obama Zombie, but because I have done community work – some in jails – and it only works because you’re willing to put differences – and the past behind – and think only of who you are trying to help.

coe your question regarding why mr. mccain’s daughter does not have a job suggests, what? i would be more concerned with what kind of psychological damage obama’s daughters have sustained as a result of sitting in a church that preached so much vile hatred for america. i resent people that hate america yet have advanced their lives (politically and economically) as a result of being americans. yes things are bad right now, yes mistakes have been made, yes we could have done better, but to bite off the hand that has sustained us will only weaken us as a nation. their is a difference between constructive criticism and outright hatred for everything american. i am first and foremost an american, then a hispanic, then a democrat, then a woman, and proudly a hillary supporter.

NYT 2001 on Ayers:
Ayers has written a book, ”Fugitive Days” (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction. He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.
”Is this, then, the truth?,” he writes. ”Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.”
But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.
”Obviously, the point is it’s a reflection on memory,” he answered. ”It’s true as I remember it.”
Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.
Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ”Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at,” is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago …
He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.’s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ”the most dangerous woman in America” and ”la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.” Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.
”Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,” Ayers writes. .
Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail.
So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ”I don’t want to discount the possibility,” he said.
Mr. Ayers has always been known as a ”rich kid radical.” His father, Thomas, now 86, was chairman and chief executive officer of Commonwealth Edison of Chicago, chairman of Northwestern University and of the Chicago Symphony.
In 1967 he met Ms. Dohrn in Ann Arbor, Mich. She had a law degree from the University of Chicago and was a magnetic speaker who often wore thigh-high boots and miniskirts. In 1969, after the Manson family murders in Beverly Hills, Ms. Dohrn told an S.D.S. audience: ”Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach.”
In Chicago recently, Ms. Dohrn said of her remarks: ”It was a joke. We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer.”
In 1970 came the town house explosion in Greenwich Village. Ms. Dohrn failed to appear in court in the Days of Rage case, and she and Mr. Ayers went underground, though there were no charges against Mr. Ayers. Later that spring the couple were indicted along with others in Federal Court for crossing state lines to incite a riot during the Days of Rage, and following that for ”conspiracy to bomb police stations and government buildings.” Those charges were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.
During his fugitive years, Mr. Ayers said, he lived in 15 states, taking names of dead babies in cemeteries.
And if there were another Vietnam, he is asked, would he participate again in the Weathermen bombings?
By way of an answer, Mr. Ayers quoted from ”The Cure at Troy,”
History says, Don’t hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up
And hope and history rhyme.

Obama has clearly explained now all of you that dare question can just shut completely up. You see, Obama has effectively shot down all possible criticism, now and forever, by detailing how we, “The American People” want all of this questioning to stop. You see, his close association with a convicted terrorist (a racist who laments not be able to accomplish more bombings) and his 20 year adoration of his (another incredibly racist, completely absurd, drenched in hate, and totally whacked-out) father figure..why we don’t care about any of this.
No, we are more concerned with the “wedge issues”, such as education, “free” health care, the (terrible) economy, and the war (for oil of course) in Iraq. Issues such as the on-going invasion by people illegally storming our borders, our tax burden, and how he intends to fix the economy by raising taxes and allowing the government to intervene and regulate the free market are not what we care about. This are the “same old Washington politics”, you understand, and “we do not need” to hear anymore of it.
I must have missed it, but somewhere along the line he became qualified to decide what we need to hear, and what we don’t.
This guy is starting to frighten me, and thank you ABC for daring to be the only one in the major media with the onions to ask him a hard question. You might just restore my faith in modern journalism if you keep this up. In the meantime, I want to know why Obama refuses to put an American flag on his lapel..Whether he thinks I need too or not.

Moe….Obama is a stooge. It doesn’t get any more real than that.

Phildelphius,
What about FL and MI voters?? Why won’t Obama agree to count them?

What is this all about, for pete’s sake?
In the ABC debate Obama said about Ayers: “The notion that me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense.”
What more is there to say? Is DETESTABLE ACTS not strong enough? I’d think calling people’s actions DETESTABLE is VERY strong.
Then he says that the fact Ayers is among the (very many, as we can guess) people he knows does NOT say one thing about Obama’s ideas and values.
The rest, as many have said, is McCarthyism. Has America sunk to that level of political paranoia again? Are we SO weak, SO scared to death about everything that is not 100% middle of the road America?!
Obama is 100% bona fide, as McCain knows very well. JM should kick Rove overboard; such strategies will only hurt him for they remind Americans exactly of the politics they are done with. He’s make a great mistake to take this path.

The thing about Ayers…..
” on 9-11, he was quoted in The New York Times saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
I’ll Take Hillary, Thanks!

What I don’t get this man is a prof at the university..Wy are they giving him a job if he is sooooooooooo bad for this country.By knowing him you are guilty of all he believes in?????By the way Mc Cain where was your flag pin during this interview???????Where was Georges???????Makes a difference huh guys?????Two face jerks

The modern state of Israel was founded by terrorists (vs. Britain most notably). I suppose we should dump them by McCain’s “Ayers Logic”. What fools.

We should not judge Obama with “guilt by association?” Excuse Me – Radical Left Wing Moveonorg. Liberals – if someone is thinking of running for President of the United States of America, it would seem logical and practical to extricate yourself from some of your more “radical and terrorist and anti-american” friends before announcing your candidacy. Unless, of course, you are so stupid (in the George W. Bush sense of the word) to understand that your friends are “radical and terrorist and anti-american” and they make you unelectable. Is the correct word for Obama “filled with HUBRIS”?? It will be a very, very annoying run for the presidency for Obama since the Republicans are certain to keep bringing up “guilt by association” and silly issues like flag pins! OBAMA SHOULD MOVEON OUT OF THE RACE! NO WIMPYBAMA 08! NO MOVEONORG. IN THE WHITE HOUSE! NO RADICAL LEFT WING TERRORISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

mara,
FYI: I have had posts blocked also. Usually it concerns a copy and paste from a newspaper though. However, a few of my own creations have been deleted after posted. I am not sure there is consistency to state that any point of view is favored. I am a Clinton supporter; I assume you are an Obama supporter. I tried to post a short article from the today’s Boston Globe. It was blocked as “spam.” It could be that it is copyrighted.

Another note on this…
“William Ayers Weather Underground past no big deal in Chicago.” Lynn Sweet, Chicago Sun-Times. April 18, 2008
“Ayers, who became a scholar at the University of Illinois-Chicago, was also eventually embraced by a pragmatic son of blue-collar Bridgeport desperately trying to upgrade Chicago’s chronically troubled schools: Mayor Daley, whose father’s legacy was tarnished because of anti-Vietnam War protesters getting clobbered in the 1968 convention and the “Days of Rage” the next year.
Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf knew Ayers in the 1960s and re-met Ayers and Dohrn decades later. In the 1960s Wolf said he and Ayers were on opposite sides of the use of violence to effect social change. Then, Ayers thought it useful. Wolf came out of the school of nonviolence.”

There was something off with Ayers back then and there is still something off with Ayers now.
I remember the man…and blame him for his own actions and ———————————————————-
Calli, I guess you know him personally to make that statement.

lisa, the “so what” about dual citizenship is that your husband is not running for the president of the us, swearing allegiance to it alone. elected officials, in order to show they are impartial, step down from boards, ceo positions etc., and put their assets in blind trusts so there is no impropriety. i would think citizenship “might” be included there.

Pssst….Hardy did you happen to know that Ayers’ father was a CEO Commonwealth Edison, which is owned by Exelon the largest utility in Illinois.
Which does support Obama….
Soooo is Ayers still connected with Commonwealth Edison? Even with stock that would benefit from Obama and his support of nuclear power?
I don’t know…but that is still a connection larger than $200, not to mention that coming out party in his living room back in the 90s.
And that is a connection that maybe the voters in Nevada might want to know about since Obama has such strong ties to a company that has been itching to export/force it’s nuclear waste probelm on another state.

LMAO calli, another republican plant

lisa, it matters to many. and we do care.

Madison, Wisconsin is known to be pretty leftwing. Berkeley, California is known to be pretty leftwing.
Chicago, Illinois has never been accused of being leftwing. Mayor Daley has never been accused of being leftwing. The Chicago Tribune has never been accused of being leftwing.
So when you hear all these ooh! ooh! comments coming out about someone that Chicagoans (who presumably would know him best) have fully accepted into their community, give that some thought.
The Chicago Tribune’s editorial the day after the debate supported Ayers’s work in Chicago. Mayor Daley made a statement supporting Ayers’s work in Chicago.
If it sounds too bad to be true…it probably isn’t true. McCain oppo research team is either ignorant or trying to mislead voters. (Likely both.)

It seems that the anti-war protest in which Obama spoke and opposed the war was attended by Ayers and Dohrn. Read below; this article is from that time and has many quotes that are reminiscent of Obama today and his call for post-partisan view. Ayers and Dohrn hate the Democrats and they say so, explicitely.
Debunking the 60s with Ayers and Dohrn
Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, activiists leaders in SDS in the ‘60’s, say a new movement must be built.
By Laura S. Washington
‘One of the things that sits very heavy on the progressive impulses today is the myth that there was a golden age in resistance.’Tags activism Share Digg del.icio.us Reddit Newsvine They are storied and iconic, America’s Numero Uno radical couple. In the ’60s, Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers were activists and leaders in Students for a Democratic Society and the Weathermen. Dohrn, now 64, and Ayers, 61, played starring roles as Vietnam War dissenters. When their protests turned violent, they became fugitives from the law.
Forty years later, they are still in the game. I recently invited them to dinner at Yoshi’s Café in Chicago’s Boys Town. The national convention of Students for a Democratic Society was coming to Chi-Town. So what do these longtime Hyde Parkers think about those good old days, when radicals were radicals and the movement was muscular?
“The ‘good old days’ is a funny way to think about the left,” said Dohrn.
Ayers picked it up. “One of the things that sits very heavy on the progressive impulses today, and young people in particular, is the myth that there was a golden age in resistance, that the ’60s was where it was really at.”
Today Dohrn is a scholar and director of the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University. Ayers serves as a distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. They visit college campuses around the nation, where, Ayers says, “We spend a fair amount of time debunking the received wisdom of the ’60s.”
That “wisdom,” he explains, is that resisting the war “was easy to do and everybody did it.” It was a hard-fought slog.
Iraq brings its own lessons of protest. He points to a failure of leadership in the run-up to that war. “In March 2003, we participated in the largest antiwar movement in our lives, possibly in history. Now there was a leadership problem in a sense that the leadership said this is the demonstration that will prevent a war.
“It was a wrong thing to say,” Ayers argues, “because it didn’t help people who participated in that, particularly young people, to analyze the situation, to make sense of it, to make a contribution, and then to continue organizing. It said we’ll prevent a war. That war was not preventable.”
Forget the Democrats, they say. “The Democratic Party supported the war in Vietnam …” Dohrn began. Ayers cut in: “Led the war in Vietnam.”
“And they’ve been supporting, and leading this war,” Dohrn continued. “I don’t look to the Democratic Party. I don’t have hope for the Democratic Party. I think the Democratic Party is bankrupt. And I think the only answer is for us to build an independent, radical movement, and, I mean, the big ‘us.’ “
To mount a movement, “let’s look at history,” said Dohrn between bites of her tuna nicoise salad. “Lyndon Johnson was not a civil rights leader; Lyndon Johnson was responding to a civil rights movement. FDR was not a labor leader; FDR was responding to a labor movement. We confuse these things when we think about them today.”
Indeed, that’s “a great mistake. Lyndon Johnson was the most effective politician of his generation, but it took a movement independent of Lyndon Johnson to get Lyndon Johnson to use that effectiveness for the good.”
Still, I asked, aren’t progressives putting high hopes in November? Even leading Republicans admit that the Dems are likely to recapture at least one house of Congress.
So what? That’s not the point, Ayers says. Electoral politics is a tool to connect causes, like gay rights, disability rights, voting rights, human rights. “That’s how you use electoral politics. Not as an end in itself, but as an organizing mechanism. Our deepest belief, I think, is that we need to connect all these good projects and build the movement. …we should always be positioning ourselves, thinking, okay, if I’m involved in this next election, how am I positioned to help contribute to building a movement, raising consciousness, making the connections, and that’s a real tricky business.”
It wasn’t so tricky for Ned Lamont. On Aug. 8 Lamont blew out of nowhere to knock off the pro-war U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Democratic senate primary. For my money, that vote is a strong predictor of the power war-weary voters will bring to the polls this fall.
Despite their critiques, Ayers and Dohrn are eternal optimists. Over coffee, Dohrn reflected that their activist days can serve as a metaphor for a “candle” that illuminates the past—and the future.
“The issue holding us back today, to me, is the idea that what you do won’t make a difference. The elite powers tell us the world is too complicated. They spend a lot of energy fostering despair,” she argues.
The candle shows us that “it’s not true,” Dohrn says. “I don’t think it’s all the complicated issues of what kind of an economic society we really want and how are we going to deal with globalization and all of that. Those are tremendously complex challenges but they’re solvable by human creativity and ingenuity and collective effort.”
Stay vigilant. The light will come.

How corrupt is the system when John McCain can operate outside of the campaign finance laws and no one questions this action?

to all those harping on this
how about the media doing a single story, just one, on just one of the clinton scandals during this entire primary…not one.
and do you think America knows the details of anything outside of Monica…and the lying on the stand thing…
uh, no, absolutely not…that is what is so funny about this election
your so called “biased media” jumps all over any relationship Obama has had in the past. Predominantly ignoring all of the ones the other candidates have had for the most part. …but yet
can you tell me the details of the cattle futures? what was the outcome? what was the controversy over Vince Foster? what was whitewater exactly and why was Hillary implicated? what was the wehole fbi thing? who was Norman Hsu? Who is Paul? what was there relationship with clinton? What does the head of Tyson have to do withy the Clintons? are their accusations of Hillary’s performance during watergate? and what were they? how many people that were supposed to be involved in some way in a scandal with the clintons and the ensuing investigations have died suddenly? how much money did Hillary’s brother have to return when an investigation turned up he had received it for the pardoning of two men?
again this all just off the top of my head… but I bet almost all of you couldn’t answer a single one of these questions past …”the republicans investigated these and spent tons of money on it and came up with nothing”
uh, no. The republicans investigated until they discovered Bill lying on the stand, focused on that issue and spent a fortune trying to get around the cover-up that Bill was trying to put in the way…and in the end after spending all that money they succeeded in ahving him impeached while the Clintons threw sand in the American people’s eyes saying it was a great right wing conspiracy…He lied to the American people and on the stand.
It is not just about “sex.”
…stop with the biased in the media crap. if the media actually started focusing on what you all want and are trying to win on, hillary would have never won her senate seat.

Good old George…. he’s still in there. Wow !!!! Must be on the Clinton payroll. Hillary and Bill have been saying for a while that they have an ace in the hole that they were going to use against Obama. His name is George Stephanopolous.All this fuss about Clinton supporters voting for McCain if she doesn’t get the nomination is a testament that her followers are not real Democrats.

McCain’s the perfect candidate to lead the march to facism that Bush/Cheney have begun. Goodbye democracy. Welcoem to the United States of Militarism.

I’m thrilled that McSame and his merry little band of followers are hanging their hats on stuff like this. This stuff might fool the less intelligent right-wing voters, but that’s not going to be enough this time.

Comment and a Question.
Comment: Senator Obama was not 8 years old when he sought William Ayers’ endorsement for public office.
Question: When he met with Ayers to get his support, what constituency was he going after?

I saw this interview…I know it’s campaign season, but does that mean that every time someone mentions something negative or has an opinion about another candidate that makes it an “attack”.
Anyone who thinks that hanging out with a terrorist as long as his crimes wer a long time ago must live in Chicago. Obama befriended Ayers for political expediancy. He is really an opportunist with poor judgement. The movement is something else…the man has Achilles heels on both feet.

What is it about McCain/Bush that makes folks go to any level to continue the horror? This war, our economy, the ecology, etc., is at its worst and a person like Obama may make a positive difference in our lives. Give up the hate…please!!

Too many nuts in Obama’s ACORN tree. Keep shaking and let’s see how many more fall out.