Apr 11, 2008 11:11am

Al Qaeda in Iraq (Almost) Trips Obama

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller and Teddy Davis Report: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., came close to once again saying that al Qaeda is not in Iraq while speaking Thursday in Gary, Indiana.

The Democratic frontrunner’s near gaffe was quickly seized on by aides to presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, R-Ariz., who YouTubed the remarks and emailed them to reporters covering Obama.

"Al Qaeda is not in Ir –" said Obama at which point he caught himself and finished the sentence by saying: "the key Al Qaeda leadership is not based in Iraq."

Watch it: HERE

Thursday is not the first time that the McCain campaign has hounded Obama on al Qaeda in Iraq as a way of casting the freshman senator as too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief.

When Obama said at a Feb. 26 debate in Cleveland with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, that he would reserve the right to send U.S. troops back to Iraq if Al Qaeda formed a base which threatened the U.S. or its interests, McCain scolded the senator who is 25 years his junior.

"I have some news," said McCain while campaigning the next day in Tyler, Texas. "Al Qaeda is in Iraq! It’s called al Qaeda in Iraq."

"If we left," McCain continued, "they wouldn’t be establishing a base. They wouldn’t be establishing a base, they’d be taking a country, and I am not going to let that happen, my friends."

Watch McCain’s Feb. 27 comments HERE.

Later that same day, Obama hit back while campaigning in Columbus, Ohio. He made the point that although al Qaeda is now in Iraq, it was not in Iraq prior to the 2003 U.S. invasion which Obama opposed and McCain supported.

"Well, first of all, I DO know that al Qaeda is in Iraq," Obama said. "That’s why I’ve said we should continue to strike al Qaeda targets."

"But I have some news for John McCain," he added, "and that is that there was no such thing as al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq!"

User Comments

If I were McCain’s staff I wouldn’t touch this (almost) gaff with a ten foot pole- This is the pot calling the kettle black .. and all it does is make voter’s talk about McCain’s own repeated mistakes regarding who we are actually fighting and where..

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Hello this is no big deal after all the MANY gaffes that McCain has said about Sunnis, Shia, and Al Qaeda.
McCain’s campaign is trying to paint Obama as inexperienced while the Obama camp is trying to paing McCain as senile…LOL!

Posted by: maritza | April 11, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Obama can do NO WRONG; he’s GOD!!!

Posted by: CD | April 11, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

If Obama gets off the script he gets lost. He’s a smooth talker, but only concerning that which has been scripted to cover, and only in areas where someone else has already covered the topic. He’s more of a follower than a leader.
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Obama, he would be a good V.P.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 11, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

when you are not stating your true position, you tend to slip! Mccain’s gaffe was different because he got Alqeada mixed up with Insurgent extremist which could be used for alqeada also….if you think about it. Obama’s case is different in that I do believe he does not think there is anything wrong with alqeada and he has sympathy for them. Obama thinks that a hands off, I’ll leave you alone approach will get Alqeada off our back….but that is an elementary, simpleton view that does not considered the fact that the alqeada ideology does not exclude it to only US bases overseas but also is against all that western society stands for…such as freedom of religion, equality for women, freedom of speech, democracy ect…

Posted by: Richard | April 11, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Did the US not kill a top Al Qaeda leader in Iraq last year?
Obama can talk this to college kids, not to people who watch news everyday.

Posted by: GS | April 11, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

If none of these morons (Oops, I mean leaders, sorry!) know who were even fighting over there, then why don’t we just pull out. It’s only fair; THEY pulled Building 7, WE should get to pull the troops out. They can just stay home and defend OUR borders; And keep those pesky Al-Quaeda from coming into the US through CANADA like last time!!! Nah, that would make too much sense, let’s just start another war on IRAN, even though Iranians are Shiite and Al-Quaeda is SUNNI. (As in the same people (Sunnis) were paying to not fight and have already armed in Iraq) Yeah, that will fix things in Iraq and (de)stabilize Iran! What’s another regional war betweens friends? We’l just finance bothe sides like we have in every other majore war, make some cash for Wall St., increase the drug trade, AND kill a few soldiers here and there. Which is fine as long as we kill more civillians. (Oops, I mean Terrorists!) Doesn’t ANYBODY else see just how transparent this is? They not even trying to hide it from you. Stop reading the paper, and the “evening snooze” and WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: ha! | April 11, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Barack Obama does not know what is going on in his own church how is he going to know what is happening around the world? I am from Nicaragua and the Sandinistas took eveything away from my family and to this day we have not going anything back. How are we going to have any HOPE if Barack Obama as President of the United States, the Leader of the Free World, would talk to Dictators such as Chavez, Castro and Ortega without any Pre-Conditions??? This guy has no idea whatsover the EVIL that men do throughout the world.

Posted by: Gabriel | April 11, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

whatever:
The cliche “pot calling the kettle black” should not be used in this situation……..
Unless you fully understand the painful history behind that cliche, you should avoid it…..and even if you do…still avoid the cliche……thanks

Posted by: shalom | April 11, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Its really sad to see some of the comments on this page about Obama. To disagree with the man politically is one thing, but to try to spread this message of hate that a few (thankfully only a few)people do is really discouraging to see going on in America today.

Posted by: Chris | April 11, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Obama is right. “Al Qaeda,” meaning the international organization that attacked us on 9/11, is not in Iraq. It is true that after we destroyed the Iraqi government and military and put nothing in its place, foreign terrorists were able to flood into the country. Many of them are associated with Al Qaeda. But it is not clear how much actual direction they get fron the leadership in Pakistan, and most of the insurgents that the U.S. keeps calling “Al Qaeda in Iraq” are actually Iraqi citizens.

Posted by: jock59801 | April 11, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Almost gaffe?
Slow news day, huh?

Posted by: power-and-knowledge | April 11, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Obama really wanted to say it–to please MoveOn.org and keep their big money rolling in–but he wisely caught himself in a nick of time.

Posted by: carl | April 11, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

“But I have some news for John McCain,” he added, “and that is that there was no such thing as al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq!”
And THAT, my friends, is the bitter truth of McCain’s war. What a TOTAL disaster.

Posted by: greg | April 11, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

McCain is wrong. There is no way Al Qaeda could take over in Iraq. They are to few and have very little support. The majority Shiites would openly fight them, and even most Sunnis dislike them as well. McCain doesn’t understand this, of course, because he doesn’t know the difference between the factions, repeatedly claiming that Al Qaeda is being trained in Iran!!

Posted by: jock59801 | April 11, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

First of all, the U.S. drew Al Qaeda to Iraq in the first place; that is why they are there! Al Qaeda is in Iraq because politicians like McBush (quick to politicize 9/11 for votes) voted to invade Iraq!
Second, on what grounds does McBush stand to ridicule anybody on a Iraq mis-speak? Is he not the one that keeps confusing Sunnis, Shia, and Al Qaeda? A vote for McCain will be a vote for more war…possibly Iran invasion?
Third, I can’t believe to this day, there are people in the U.S. who don’t care what the war in Iraq is doing to this country’s morale and economic well-being. I can’t believe there are people willing to vote another war-monger into the White House!!

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Shalom- well I looked it up and researched where the phrase originated and seems to be up to interpretation- the way I have always interpreted it was You are the pot calling the kettle black when …… you point to another person and accuse that person of doing something that you are guilty of doing yourself.
Now after taking your advice I realize that perhaps it has also been used as a deregatory comment towards African Americans even though I myself have never heard it used in that scenario. I apologize for any offense that you may have taken as there was absolutely no intent on my part to bring race into this matter whatsoever.

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

WestCoastMessenger – Please define the “Beavis and Butthead generation.” B&B were not college educated, anf that “generation” would probably be in its 30s by now, so what does this have to do with Obama. I suppose you just said it because you thought it sounded insulting, and insulting Obama is your career after all, regardless of whether what you say makes any sense.

Posted by: jock59801 | April 11, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Obama’s Mind is writing checks his IQ can’t cover.
He likes to pretend a lot. Pretends he knows all.
He is a Jr. Senator, He does not know all.
He acts like he is running for class president. Or a popularity contest.
He does not care who he uses, who he hurts, He will even destory the people on the same side, Just to get what he wants.
He is driven to accomplish something his father never could. To prove something to himself.
He has Zero respect for the position he seeks.
He uses Obama followers and Obama youth to do his dirty work.
He does not have a hands on campaign.
He operates with a Blame and Shame campaign.
He lacks Credibility, he lacks Character, He lacks Honesty. He lacks respect for the Position he desires.
He loves when eyes and the media are turned toward, Hillary, McCain, Bush, Rev wright, Rezko. It means they are not on him. Since he has nothing substantial to offer.
Obama is a great speaker, He is a motivational, Charismatic speaker he can move people. That is only Quality.
Everyone should hire him to give speeches. They should not Hire him to be President of this Great Nation. It takes far more than a speech.

Posted by: seah | April 11, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

To Shalom: Just what history are you refering to?
Origin
This phrase originates in Cervantes’ Don Quixote, or at least in Thomas Shelton’s 1620 translation – Cervantes Saavedra’s History of Don Quixote:
“You are like what is said that the frying-pan said to the kettle, ‘Avant, black-browes’.”
The first person who is recorded as using the phrase in English was William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, in his Some fruits of solitude, 1693:
“For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality… is for the Pot to call the Kettle black.”
Shakespeare had previously expressed a similar notion in a line in Troilus and Cressida, 1601- “The raven chides blackness.”

Posted by: JR | April 11, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

J: You’re right! The only gaffe Hilary ever made about Iraq is her vote to invade Iraq! How right you are! For real? LOL

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Deep Release,
Why do you people act like she is the only one that chose to vote for that war?
If I remember correctly a good percentage of Americans wanted revenge after 9/11 and didn’t have a problem with it. Now because it’s not going well, the are suddenly against it.
Not one of you were privied to the information that the Senators had, including Saint Obama. How can you know what YOU would have done in their shoes???????

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Back off Gramps – if you bring attention to this near “gaffe” on Obama’s part – your 6 or so “misstatements” will be brought front and center.

Posted by: Julie | April 11, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

If Clinton gets off the script she gets lost. She’s not much of a smooth talker, but sure can tell a whopper. She’s more of a follower than a leader.
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Clinton, she would be a good V.P., but it won’t happen!!!
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Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | April 11, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

If McCain is having “senior” moments what are Obamas’s gaffes? “idiot” moments?

Posted by: geevill | April 11, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Leaving flordia and Mich. out is the only way Obama can win.

Posted by: Bishop | April 11, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Bottom Line:
OBAMA is not qualified to be a senator.

Posted by: raquela | April 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

All of us in my family have switched
to Hillary once we realized how dumb
Obama really is – thats true of all my friends
families too…
Even in my gym now everybody is
fed up with Obama ….

Posted by: rutherford | April 11, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

J: For the most part, the U.S. has gone about war inteligently and with a level-headed strategy. This wisdom is evident during the Cold War. However, we no longer seek a wise approach to war. We are losing the war on terrorism precisely because of the hot-headed approach which took hold of this country in the aftermath of 9/11.
I fully support Obama because of his views on the war, despite the fact that I wanted blood after 9/11 too. I was in the military when those planes struck the homeland. And, I also voted for Bush in the last elections. After everything I have learned since then, I vowed never to make a bad vote again. I am taking my chances on Obama this time around.

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Voting for Obama is not “cool” its
dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ricki | April 11, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

True Truth – Lets not forget many of Obama’s 2300 donors were found to be babies in diapers and children. Obama returned what was discovered by the media but as the FEC stated, there is no requirement to prove the age of donors and therefore no way to be certain just how many other donations are illegal. Richardson was also caught with these types of donors.

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Obama opposed the war in the beginning because he had no clue in any intelligence as he had not clearance. It is purely based on a hunch, on ideology, which is fine as an activist. Would he have said, “I agree with you, Mrs. Senator”, were he in the senate at that time, after the question was posted to his opponent first?
He has rarely been asked a question first during a debate, and every time at his turn to respond, he is always, “I agree with Senator XYZ”.
On which issue has Obama come up with his OWN ideas, so far?

Posted by: tooth | April 11, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

1) You singled Clinton out as not having made a gaffe rergarding Iraq, not me.
2) Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
Posted by: Deep Release————–
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No kidding 9/11 didn’t have anything to do with Iraq you dolt. I didn’t say it did. But people wanted revenge on whomever and Bush came up with this war to finish what Daddy started and people were all for it until it went horribly wrong.
Who else was I going to bring up there isn’t anybody else running. You got the bobsie twins making blunders on Iraq more than once. How can you trust those 2 to run this country?

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Meanwhile Obama’s iranian friends continue to taunt and harass our Naval ships.

Posted by: geevill | April 11, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

I vowed never to make a bad vote again. I am taking my chances on Obama this time around.
Posted by: Susan—–
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I hate to tell you this but you are making a third mistake, but that’s up to you.

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

tooth: First, I speak frequently with my husband who was a debater for many years about the “first question” issue and he does not understood the problem Clinton has with being asked questions first. In debates, this is an advantage as this person sets the tone for the rest of the dialogue.
Second, do you think any of the candidates have ideas they can claim as “original” (i.e., as their own)? All advances in human societies are based on the ideas of previous generations. What is your point?

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Why is Obama still in the race? he does not know how to handle the issues. If is not a prepared speech, he does not know what to say. Obama is unelectable, he is damaging the Democrat Party.

Posted by: libre | April 11, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Susan – Did not you take a chance on Bush last time? You know, Bush had even more experience than Obama! Look what you got on taking that chance. Now, again??? You need to choose a CiC who has at least some records, not on a single record of a protest-agains-the-other-party speech before the war.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

The point is Obama can not think
an original thought and thus
based on his terrorist/racist upbringing/friends
will tend to resort to that.

Posted by: randi | April 11, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Frankly and sadly, Obama is not
qualified to be a Senator.

Posted by: Maxine | April 11, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

well if thats not calling the obama black!

Posted by: edaw | April 11, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Yes, Joe Biden has the original idea of a Federal Iraq, which is not supported by the Senate. Only, unfortunately, Obama framed him to be a racist because Biden praised him, on the day that Biden announced his candidacy. Obama killed that candidacy before it even got started. You want this to be your next CiC?

Posted by: tooth | April 11, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

These posts are such a bummer… has anyone really considered the big picture? That all of this arguing and tearing down of the Dems does no one any good. That there will be a nominee and that by the time it happens so many people will be fed up with vile garbage that it won’t matter anymore. People will stay home or just not care and things will go back to the way they were before Dems were excited about this process again. Then once again we will have a tiny percentage of people making the decisions for us and keep taking it like good little boys and girls.It’s really sad folks and all I can do is hope that people see the truth behind what could happen in the next four years if this character defilement continues from the Dems.

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

lazy to think: You’re right, I was wrong for voting for Bush! I made a mistake. Now, could you clarify your statement. You wrote:
“Susan – Did not you take a chance on Bush last time? You know, Bush had even more experience than Obama! Look what you got on taking that chance.”
So, voting for somebody WITH more experience is bad?
“You need to choose a CiC who has at least some records, not on a single record of a protest-agains-the-other-party speech before the war.”
So voting for somebody with NO experience is bad?
Which one is it?

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

I can hear an editor thinking “Dang, we almost got him! We almost caught O…”

Posted by: kravitz | April 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Joe: I disagree with you!
Barack: Racist!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: yasoo | April 11, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Obama gaffs are caught by Obama, McCains have to be pointed out to him by others. Which is better? The guy who starts to misspeak and corrects himself or the old fool that needs help to keep his foot out of his mouth.

Posted by: JR | April 11, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

ROTFLMAO!
Pot meet kettle. Did Joe have to whisper in Barack’s ear? -wink-
–George

Posted by: George John | April 11, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Susan – I did not mean “you” per se. Half of the country voted for him.
Bush’s records, even though more to consider than Obama’s, were nevertheless not sufficient to let people have a good judgment. He fooled the country on the promise of compassionate conservative, on being a good buddy to make you feel good. Isn’t it the same that can be said to Obama, now? Only Obama has even less records to show what he MIGHT do in the future. You want to take another chance?
He might turn out to be a good president in the future. But, then, show us what he really stands when important decisions are called up on him, when he has the responsibility to make that decision.
His war protest speech was made when he had no responsibility for what he said.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

JR,
Now that you have explained that to all of us it makes it all better. Of course the Chosen One catches his gaffes on his own. The point is neither of these men should be making them.

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

lazy to think: I agree that both (Bush and Obama) had/has slim records, even though you could argue Obama has a lengthier public service record than Clinton. Anyhow, the difference is I started doing my homework on the candidates, and Obama in particular, more than a year ago, before the media blitz even started. I am convinced he is what this country needs now. Yes, I will take my chances on him. I think everybody takes a chance when they vote for somebody.

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

As usual, the empty suit gets in trouble when he has to speak extemporaneously. He’s much better when he memorizes his master’s script.

Posted by: Aston | April 11, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

whatever – playing nice in the dem primary has historically resulted in unprepared and unvetted nominees who usually lose to Republicans in the GE. We got lucky with Bill Clinton and we did not get lucky with Carter. The rest since LBJ have pretty much been Republican Presidents. This time, Senator Clinton has it correct… we need a strong competitive race that vets the candidates and prepares them for the GE. When voters fail to vet candidates, the RNC detroys them.
Americans are a competitive people… we know what gamesmanship is… and we know how to celebrate together when the contest is done. The unfortunate part of this historic race is that it is not a game… we cant afford to simply have the candidate who can give great speeches, is the most charismatic, who has the most money to run smear campaigns, or is all hat and no cattle. We need a competent, experienced, proven, accomplished humanitarian leader who can get the job done to restore our standing in the world in every aspect. Our choices may not be perfect… but we do have at least one choice that can meet our needs. We need to elect the best leader based on credentials and record overall not the player who simply says he is the best. Benjamin Franklin said it best “Well-done is better than well-said.”

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

mixed-american: Benjamin Franklin was also highly anti-American until right before the war for independence broke out. And even then, he only made the choice to back America because it suited his pocket books. He would most definitely have stepped on the little guy to get his way. He would have been proud of your “vetted” candidate.

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

mixed-american- While I respect your opinion, here is my take on it-Then let’s have a primary based on credentials and records. You cannot tell me that any of this gossip/rumor garbage and the racist/sexist behavior exhibited on these kinds of posts has any good reason for existing. Just because something “has always been done” does not make it right.It’s a poor excuse at best for letting this kind of behavior continue..and I am allowed to be disgusted with it.

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

So, bottom line, this wasn’t a gaffe.
It was “close” to a gaffe.
It was kinda, sorta, almost like but wasn’t really a gaffe.
Either the press are merely passing on prepared copy/video from the other campaigns or we have here a mighty slow news cycle.

Posted by: Gorgon '08 | April 11, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Obama is no better than any other candidates…
He is just a typical Chicago politican with black look and nothing else……
If people said his speech inspired them, it means those people have not been in Church or inspired by their belief/religions so long….
As Christian, his speech or lecture has no comparison to the true inspiration and touch by Jesus Christ itself, where the truth is…
However, America is democracy. People can pick whoever he/she likes. But people need to make your own sense and be responsible…

Posted by: True Truth | April 11, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Susan – comparing the political and social climate of Franklin’s time with today is ludicrous at best. Benjamin Franklin was a truly great man whose intelligence is indisputable. Your statement is so far off topic it puzzles me because you seemed to have a good head on your shoulders even if I dont agree with your choice of candidate. Electing an unvetted candidate out of desparation for unity under the guise of morality results in leaders like GW Bush and Hitler. It is best we learn from history rather thn ignore it.

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Susan – Did you find out he has been friendly and had dealings with Rezko for 15 years, way before his housing benefit after elected to the senate? Do you think someone you barely know (as Obama claimed of Rezko) would spend more than $600K so that you can buy a house? If you knew someone like that, please do let all of us know!
Did you find out, after your year long search, what he had been mentored and taught in his own church by this person who is full of hatred? In fact, for all we know, Obama was so inspired, if he only chooses to listen what benefits himself, that he entitled his book by one of his mentor’s speeches? Do you think this is the only speech that Obama knew and inspired by, but he had absolutely no idea about the rest of the hatred that Wright preaches for 20 years?

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

whatever – I agree with you that we need a race on credentials, issues, and records. I chose my candidate based on those very things. However, as JFK said, the race for President is all about character. Obama asked us to judge him on his character admitting he lacked credentials. His position on the issues and the records between him and Senator Clinton are close enough to be a wash. His lack of original ideas and parroting goes to his character. I judged him based on his actions and found him to be lacking.

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Obama also made a huge gaffe in the hearings when he mixed up iran and iraq.
Obama said the iraqis were fighting the special groups.
It is the iranians who are training the special groups. Maliki was just fighting them. This huge gaffe was ignored in the hearings.
It shows the double standard.
McCain has been sinking like a rock in the polls because the media obsessing over his slip of the tounge while obama got a total pass on the gaffe at the hearing.
How about Obama saying the leader of canada is the president of canada.

Posted by: Jason | April 11, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Ugh — Jason
While you were sleeping during the last two weeks, McCain has come from a large deficit in votes behind Obama to a tie at 45% apiece.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 11, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Obama is not mature enough to be a leader of the US! Especially with his remark about a vibrating cell phone!! Maybe Obama and Chris Matthews should get together.

Posted by: Diane | April 11, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Mixed-american- I also chose my candidate based on similar criteria, and I have researched your candidate as well.. I am not an imbecile I did not put the names into a hat and draw one out- promise. The difference , for me? Obama inspires me he gives me hope as he gives many other Americans. You don’t have to agree with me on it , I don’t expect you to. I didn’t jump on a band wagon..I have known of him for years and have always deeply respected him. And in my mind and my heart that is where Hillary falls short for me. In the respect department. I may disagree with the way she and her family have carried themselves over the years but if push comes to shove I will vote for her ( I agree she is a fighter..and she does have my respect in that category). I think that has been my whole point all along, to both sides of this Dem fight- dislike aspects of the other , of course you will, but don’t berate and degrade the other candidate..try to find something that can allow you to cast your vote for them if it comes to that.

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

HAHAHAHHAHAA…at least he caught it and realized it before he had to be have the correct answer whispered in his ear. Nice try McSame.

Posted by: ART in TX | April 11, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Obama made one speech against the war in Iraq in 2002 – 6 years ago. What did he do to voice his opposition to the war after that? Nothing. Since he became a U.S. Senator, Obama has voted right along Democratic party lines, which is not surprising since Obama does not have an original thought. It would be interesting to find the writer of the 2002 speech, did that person write Obama’s 2004 convention speech in which Obama agreed with the Democratic party’s position on the war? By the way, Hillary did not vote to go to war. George. W. used that vote to go to war, and the media helped Bush by making much of the WMD’s. Sound familiar? The media loves Obama, hates Hillary, what are they selling us? Another fake story just like Iraq! This is another example of the bill of goods the media sells us! Sell us Obama, and we get Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, Ayeres, Khalidi, Said, Hamas and who know what else, but it will be G-d D–m America for sure.

Posted by: rs | April 11, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

rs: Where are you getting your information from?

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

mixed-american- I do not feel as if you attacked me, I think I was taking my frustration out in my post while speaking with you. I apologize for that. Can I ask you then, if your worst case scenario comes true and Obama is the nominee have you considered what you will do? As I have said I will vote for Clinton, but I am curious if you will be able to accept Obama’s former pastor’s remarks and vote Democratic. I hope you will as I hope others will..the polls on those scenarios frighten me. While I respect McCain as a veteran and think he is truly a nice guy, his ideas and policies cannot be further from Senator Clinton’s or Obama’s.

Posted by: whatever | April 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

As a true Chritian, if Obama said he was inspired by his pastor, it would be WRONG under Bible…
The spiritual inspiration is from God – Jesus Christ itself not a Human being..
If Obama doesn’t undertand it, he is not a true Christian.. He is just a religion follower…

Posted by: True Truth | April 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Obama is sooooooooooooooooo…. dummb.

Posted by: ruth | April 11, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Susan – I dont see any relevance to the concept of the quote I posted but ok thanks.
whatever – Unfortunately, as humans we tend to judge people by the company they keep and rightfully so. The larger question is the level of influence said company has on those we judge. In Clinton’s case, she did her job as a First Lady and as a wife as she saw fit even if I dont agree with her decision to remain married to a habitual cheater. She found time throughout the years to do a lot of humanitarian work and donated funds to charity that she made from her books. I think she has been unfairly associated with Bill’s character flaws and the $40M in tax dollars spent by the RNC machine to try to take her down revealed nothing of consequence against her. She worked hard to establish her own identity and record of accomplishments in addition to all that she has been through. There is no question she has been held to a different standard and that continues today. One of the most effective tools presented on the Internet for this election was the ability to select a candidate based on the issues and statements they have made without knowing who they are. Many of the dems were very close on the issues. None of the dems come close to her credentials and record of accomplishments.

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Susan – There is really nothing particularly wrong to spin the same thing both ways, realizing it will happen. It would have been not so critical with regard to Rezko and Wright, (1) if Obama has a lot of records to show, and (2) if Obama has not been selling himself as a new kind of politician who has the “Wright” judgment.
Both aspects contradicts what Obama wanted the voters to believe what he was, not necessarily what he truly is. We just don’t know, and that is the question here. And, this calls for question in betting the presidency on a chance that he might turn out to be OK.
It is a judgment 20 years in the making, and he failed miserably in both cases.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Susan – rs’s information on voting record is from the voting records… a good place to compare is at votesmart org website if you dont have the time to filter through the Senate records.
whatever – I will not support Obama without Clinton in the mix and some major changes. Until November, I will continue to support Clinton. At that time, I will consider McCain if I have to – a lot will depend on his running mate.
Why on earth would I consider voting Republican for the first time in my life? Because McCain is a moderate who as another poster stated will be kept in check by the Democratic Congress. McCain has a record of experience working across party lines in Congress and a record of going against his party. McCain has a greater presence and qualification to be CIC than Obama and there is no question about his patriotism and integrity. In other words, I do not totally disagree with McCains positions on the issues and do not question his character. Here is how I rank the candidates:
Clinton – totally agree with and totally respect
McCain – only partially agree with and mildly respect
Obama – hard to agree with and hard to respect

Posted by: mixed-american | April 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Susan – I used to live in western NY, which is as Republican as you can get. People were very skeptical of Clinton when she decided to run for Senate in NY. She went to every single county and won their support, and through her work in the senate, she won overwhelmingly re-election. That tells something about her character.
Obama came to light on a feel-good speech. What else, something real, has he done since? Name one.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

I agree with you totally, Mixed-American!

Posted by: AL | April 11, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

I’m with mixed-american.

Posted by: enlightened | April 11, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

lazy to think: last I heard, Obama sat down with the Chicago Tribune and laid out, in detail, his relationship to Reszko. Is that not enough?
Also, since we’re talking about his ability to judge, what say you about a letter Obama sent about a year ago to the Federal Reserve Chairman essentially predicting the massive foreclosures we now see? Does this not say a lot about his judgment? When the U.S. was heated post-9/11, Obama was an elected official in Illinois and had the courage to see the error of a decision to go to war; he spoke out about it. Is this not good judgement? When he decided not to throw a patriot (i.e., Wright) under the bus who brought him to faith, is this not good judgement?

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

I usually judge a candidate on two things: immigration and inspiration. Yes, it sounds funny, but we all have our pet issues. As for immigration:
1. Obama, like Clinton, supported the Dream Act which allows children of immigrants to recieve a higher education in the U.S.
2. Obama feels like I do, that U.S. policymakers should provide a pathway to legal citizenship. The comprehensive immigration bill that was recently shot down is one he helped broker, along with McCain.
3. I like the notion he offers that we need to end the mindset of division. I think immigration is one area where people are quick to demonize individuals, especially Mexican immigrants.

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Aston: Please provide me that list and make sure to cite sources. Thanks.

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Olandug: Obama is not Muslim. By the way, is there something wrong with being Muslim?

Posted by: Susan | April 11, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Susan – If you would like, you can verify that Obama was AFTER Clinton’s remarks in March, 2007, on the foreclosures. Does that sounds familiar – me too, I agree, …?
Original ideas are lacking in Obama.
I do not consider his anti-war speech as evidence of good judgment at all. First, it was an anti-war speech against the other party. A lot of people were against that war, for ideology, or for whatever reasons. Second, if he was truly making a policy decision that has responsibilities, it calls for question of his judgment on the basis of incomplete intelligence. As a state senator, he had no access of CIA briefings, nor any true (or lack of) intelligence. On what ground can he make a truly informed judgment at that time, in his position as a state senator, on such an important question of war and death? Is he God, knowing we and the rest of the country did not know? Finally, now, Obama is misleading the voters by telling them he had the right judgment, because it is simply not true. Given that he was against the war, it was, nevertheless, not based on informed rational – certainly not a qualified policy decision in his position at that time.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

3. I like the notion he offers that we need to end the mindset of division. I think immigration is one area where people are quick to demonize individuals, especially Mexican immigrants.
————————
He has done more dividing in this election than any candidate I have see in the last 30 years!

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Jay says:
He has done more dividing in this election than any candidate I have see in the last 30 years!
YUP!

Posted by: al | April 11, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

This whole “much to do about nothing” would shock “Us.” However “WE” must consider the source. “We” leave it to you.

Posted by: We The People | April 11, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Al Qaeda in Iraq??? Please , Iraq is in the middle of a Civil war! Only in America do we believe that we are fighting terrorism in Iraq! Wake up people, read international news! Osama Bin Laden is Dead! He was killed 4 years ago in the mountains of afganistan!
Bhutto already told us that! Why do you think she was killed?
Obama knows the truth, so does McCain, but they have to lie to our faces in order to keep the lie going.

Posted by: Nick | April 11, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Susan,
Just take a look at he posts on here and listen to people talk about this election. I have never seen people so divided in an election year. Most of his supporters are so hateful it’s pathetic.
Frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing how great this man is. I don’t see it and I am sure alot of those that back Hillary don’t either. He has been pushed down everyone’s throat by the media and his supporters.
Thinking people can see that the media digs up all kind of nonsense on Hillary but they don’t do the same thing to Obama.
Clinton might not be the shiniest character but at least with her you know what you are getting and she will work to get this country back on it’s feet.

Posted by: J | April 11, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

What is Obama’s position on illegal immigration — social security benefits, free health care, etc?

Posted by: Just curious | April 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Lazy to think: You really don’t remember how explosive it was to speak out against the war at that time? Furthermore, not all of us were stupid sheep who “wanted revenge” post-9/11 against someone, anyone. I marched and spoke out against the war — not that anyone in the current administration cared (Cheney: “So?”). I didn’t have any access to intelligence documents either. I was just paying attention. So, am I God? Gee, thanks.

Posted by: bd | April 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

HILLARY SUPPORTER
The deck has been stacked. Your candidate will loose.
Time to prepare a write-in campaign so that you can express your opinion in a meaningful way. It’s that or fall to the level of supporting Obama or making a choice between McCain and Nader.
Which will it be ???

Posted by: Aston | April 11, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I wonder if McCain would still be in a Vietnam prison if the antiwar activist kept their mouths shut.

Posted by: P | April 11, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

I am so tired of hearing Obama go on and on about the mistake of going to Iraq and the fact that AQ wasn’t there when the war started. While that may be true, it does not have anything to do with the situation as it is now. The next president is going to have to figure out the best, least costly and most responsible way of getting out of Iraq now that it has an unstable government, is open territory for Iran, Al Quaeda and everyone else who wants a piece of it and all the rest that goes with the mess we created.

Posted by: sarnorton | April 11, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

the rebublicans know that they can’t win this one so they have sacrificed thier weakest rep. they are betting on the dems not being able to recover from the mountain-high mess that bush left for them, thus becoming the “new scape goats”. then, they will introduce the “shining republican in armor” that they have been grooming for some time to “clean up the mess” that the dems have made of our nation. which was not the mess that the dems created but, the mess that the repubs left to them in the first place. they don’t actually expect to win this one but they thought that tey might when hillary was in the lead. i bet that they don’t really mind losing to obama as long as it means never losing to a clinton again.

Posted by: maybe | April 11, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

maybe
You do exist in a world of emotion and assertions. Don’t you. Not a fact in your diatribe — just opinionated diatribe!

Posted by: S | April 11, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

well, its a fact that mccain, the least liked (by traditional conservative repubs), oldest, and least conservative candiadate of the rebublican party is the only one still in the race.
how much do you want to bet that they will select a “disposable” running mate for him?
it is a fact that he is the only rebublican candiate that is seen anywhere near george bush. btw make no mistake, w’s endorsement was a deliberate kiss of death.
it is a fact that he, of all the republican candidates is the least likely to win a general election. he has already lost two….ahhh now the wheels start to turn…who did he lose to? bush….the lead repub.
would you send your best to be clobbered in a fight that you know that you cant win? hell no. they will save the repub savior for a time when they hope the dems would have nothing but failure to defend, kind of like thier current situation.
it is a fact that they will need a hopefully failed democratic administration and thier best republican ringer for the next American “civil war”.

Posted by: maybe | April 11, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

maybe
Your opinionated self is showing. I see you don’t like facts.

Posted by: S | April 11, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

maybe the truth just hurts because it rips “belief” to shreds.

Posted by: maybe | April 11, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

maybe
Yet your words are based solely on your beliefs and completely without fact.

Posted by: S | April 11, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

McCain is the last person who should be jumping on anyone making a gaffe, or has he forgotten about Iran arming and training terrorists, uh I mean extremists. or knowing the difference between shiite and sunni.

Posted by: Louis | April 11, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Everybody makes a slip of the tongue every now and then. Only fools think it’s all that important.

Posted by: S | April 11, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Susan: I’m just saying the media sold us a war based on 9/11 fears, now they are selling us Obama based on Bush/change and nothing else. If you look at Obama the man, who his “friends and associates” are, you will see a man fit for a liberal professorship at a university, not president. The media is selling us Obama and we are stupid enough to buy. Think of how we got Iraq.

Posted by: rs | April 11, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

bd – Good for you and your passion. I respect that. Some people will be against war, no matter what. Did you really know when you protested that there was really no WMDin Iraq, even you paid attention? Did Obama know at that time for certain?
The outcome after the fact is not a justification for the action that you took based on gambling, or your ideological belief. If you do so, some times you can get it right, as you and Obama do in this case. Some other times you will get it wrong, as the Bush administration. There is really no difference as far as the next event is concerned, because there is always that 50% chance.
If you say you are willing to take that chance, vote for him. He might turn out to be better than Bush. Hey, you never know, he might be a great President, or I might win NY lotto.

Posted by: lazy to think | April 11, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

I think with who ever be president we should not end the war in Iraq immediately
otherwise. Our country will be flushed with Iraqi refugee then we may have home grown Al Qaeda.

Posted by: JC | April 11, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Sorry to in form u but OBAMA IS THE ONLY CHOICE!!!!!
Hillary is Done!
McCain in an extension of Bush and the Iraq war. And that’s DONE!
Whether you want to or not, do the right thing. Say no to war and vote for OBAMA!

Posted by: orion | April 11, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Iraq is our own self-created problem. We created it’s instablility. We are responsible for Al Qaeda being there.
I think that is the message Obama is trying to remind people with this “near gaffe” (really, why is this a story? What he said is true, the leadership of Al Qaeda is STILL not in Iraq, people!)
Honestly, why would anybody vote republican? To paraphrase Reagan, “Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?” Do you like the state of the war, the prices, the economy, the global warming, the lapse in the performance of federal agencies, … should I go on?
Time to get some new ideas up there!

Posted by: Scott | April 11, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Wow,
Is he really that stupid?

Posted by: Valrie Sommerville | April 11, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Obama is the dream leader of all times. We Stand solidly for Obama

Posted by: Sam | April 11, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

For America to lead in the 21st Century, it must kick out racism from its agenda. Hilary and McCain have not proven to us that they are not racist. America is a diverse society with many different races and unity in diversity can generate enormous strength. Obama has clearly demonstrated that he is not racist and he will unite the country’s races under a common agenda. WE STAND FOR OBAMA

Posted by: Sam | April 11, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Obama’s campaign, personal integrity, intelligence, and ability to inspire far outreach McCain. He doesn’t call his wife 4 letter words in public (imagine what it’s like in private) and he was wise enough to oppose this blasphemous war. John McCain doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Period.
Some think Obama’s plan would lead us into disaster. Well, where are we (and Iraq) now?? Some think EYE RAK flew planes into the twin towers. I’m sick and tired of our ignorance. It’s time to stop the flow of billions into Iraq and start funding U.S. schools and their teachers so our children don’t grow up so stupid.

Posted by: gabe | April 11, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

amen, Observer!

Posted by: rallph | April 11, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Jackt51 proud vet and liberal? Ha!
If you know so much about Hillary Clinton you’d know that she does not read from script along the campaign or at her rallies. the townhall questions are impromptu and her responses are full of substance. guess you’ve never seen her in person right?
Your lack of knowledge about Senator Clinton is not at all amusing. If you wish to open your mouth why not
get educated and check out what you fear most..a litle information..As a liberal myself, knowledge IS power.

Posted by: DaneNM | April 12, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Obama has been ruthless in either making fun of or criticising McCain for every Sunni/Shia mistake…I guess he didn’t realize that McCain could reverse it on him….I am sure that Obama is shocked that the press would actually print any of his gaffes….they didn’t mention it when he questioned Potraeus and got Iraq and Iran confused.

Posted by: Jackie | April 12, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

After reading a couple of those comments I feel ashamed to call myself an American citizen, not only because of a disturbing lack of political knowledge but because it didn’t stop you from commenting in an arrogant and impolite manner. Then again, we Americans are fully responsible for the worldwide distaste that has grown exponentially in the past 7 years.
About this article: yes Obama almost slipped up but I know of nobody who was ever perfect about public speaking. I’d rather vote for someone that catches himself in the process than someone who misspeaks deliberately (Clinton) or unperceived (McCain). Frankly, I don’t know which is worse, displaying a lack of knowledge or mental fitness like McCain or using falsehoods to gain sympathy and trust and thus voters like Hillary.
Despite all my critical words about those other candidates, Hillary Clinton can still be a good choice were Obama to lose the nomination. I can disagree with her personality and still like her political orientation enough to vote for her.

Posted by: Danny | April 12, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am

Listen Friends, Everyone is doing what they feel they have to do in a falling country, the battle is on! No one wants to perish, which put everyone seeking one goal, “SAVE AMERICA” and all the back and forth talk about the Middle East Leaders, They are all family OK!
in different organizations. Like America
If we don’t As Dr Martin Luther King Jr.
and Today’s Barack Obama, Stating!
“There is no white America, Black America, Latino America etc. We are the
United States of America” And Dr King jr. “We’re One Nation Under God.”
If we don’t bind ourselves together tight, America will become, God Forbid
All thoes Middle East Organizations, in the US. And and once stirred up, Americans, will be fighting each other and “who is each other? Our own relatives north south east and west of
America! Arent we everwhere? So now you see, The war is about The family who has
the most treasure! OIL, “Bush We need it
And we got War! The middle Eastern Countries do not uphold the US principals, look at our naked daughters
flanting their backsides, of all ages!
What’s That? Listen to America’s evey
other curse word! Representing who? They
don’t want their woman to pattern themselves like Mrs Senator Clinton, being like a man! Everyone knows the
preachment for America end time.which is
doomed for punishment, happening daily! Will not stop until the price is paid!
This “Present Day System” is in Decline
“The land Of Good and plenty waste!”
If Someone Crying out for hope and change! Get behind him, If God promised
to save Sodom And Gamorrah, If there were 50 righteous people found in the
wicked twin cities, he would save the city! there wasn’t 10, not 1, except for
the righteous messenger sent to save the
city! Obama Brings God into Politics and
he’s a praying man! Now who do you want?
The storms, fires, killings daily! He see something that many don’t see! and
he has no control over it, because he’s
been chosen to help turn the wrath! and
I’m not saying He can do it! But he sure
is gonna try! I am an American born living in the Middle East, over 30 years
The People here are so tired,and wants
peace, it not the grassroot families that’s keeping things going! its the
leaders that they have no control of! there are good people and many inocent
among them. Men Women And Children, We
have some stories to tell! one last thing! Sodom And Gamorrah, when people drive by thoes desolate cities today,
Everyone,Fly By! no one even stop to see
the ruins, there’s a dark ugly spirit that’s felt when passing by, and you really don’t want to look that way! Because Its a very Dark Black Burnt area
I wish you all the Best and I’m for Obama, Like a lot of others Middle Eastern people are, and Leaders. They
can’t vote, but they do pray and send their support over the internet, take a
look at http://www.obama.com PEACE! Cavah

Posted by: cpedu1 | April 12, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

If Obama is praying man , can he quote from the bible? Do they use the bible in his church? They do use the book,’Black Theology and Black Power’. Several teachings and quotes from that book appear in Rev, Wrights sermons. The Holy Bible is the book of faith in most Christian Churches, sermons are based on the various Gospels. The Bible does not show hatred for ones fellow man. Dr. King believed in the teachings of the Bible , not of the teachings of Black liberation theology.

Posted by: jp,michigan | April 12, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

I got news for you Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded it and they will not exist after we leave.
Iran is the one to watch out for and we should have known this would happen if we invaded.
Senator Obama has my vote.

Posted by: Deward Bowles | April 12, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

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