Rev. Wright Defends Sermons, Self in First Interview
Tomorrow on PBS, Bill Moyers will interview Sen. Barack Obama’s former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright in his first interview since the controversy erupted about some of his inflammatory remarks.
Wright insists there was nothing wrong with his sermons.
"The persons who have heard the entire sermon understand the communication perfectly," he tells Moyers, according to excerpts released by Moyers’ show.
[For the full context of Rev. Wright's sermons click HERE.]
"When something is taken like a sound bite for a political purpose and put constantly over and over again, looped in the face of the public," Wright says, "that’s not a failure to communicate. Those who are doing that are communicating exactly what they want to do, which is to paint me as some sort of fanatic or as the learned journalist from the New York Times called me, a ‘wackadoodle.’
"It’s to paint me as something: ‘Something’s wrong with me. There’s nothing wrong with this country…for its policies. We’re perfect. Our hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them,’" Wright says. "That’s not a failure to communicate. The message that is being communicated by the sound bites is exactly what those pushing those sound bites want to communicate."
And what does Wright think "they" wanted to communicate?
"That I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ," Wright says. "And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate. They know nothing about the church. They know nothing about our prison ministry. They know nothing about our food sharing ministry. They know nothing about our senior citizens home. They know nothing about all we try to do as a church and have tried to do, and still continue to do as a church that believes what Martin Marty said, that the two worlds have to be together. And that the gospel of Jesus Christ has to speak to those worlds, not only in terms of the preached message on a Sunday morning but in terms of the lived-out ministry throughout the week.
Moyers asks Wright what he thought when he began to see the sound bites circulating.
"I felt it was unfair," he says, "I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt for those who were doing that, were doing it for some very devious reasons….The blowup and the blowing up of sermons preached 15, seven, six years ago and now becoming a media event, not the full sermon, but the snippets from the sermon and sound bite having made me the target of hatred, yes, that is something very new and something very, very unsettling."
Wright is also asked how it went down after Obama criticized Wright?
"It went down very simply," Wright responds. "He’s a politician, I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds. I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician."
Wright adds that he’s "absolutely" never heard Obama repeat any of Wright’s controversial statements as his own. "I don’t talk to him about politics," Wright says. "And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God."
- jpt
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Posted by: Tina D | April 24, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Try as he might, he can’t “unsay” what he said. As Senator Obama would say, “Words matter.”
Posted by: Jim - PRS | April 24, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
ok, Rev Wright, you’re right, we’re all just a bunch of racists for taking you out of context…our bad.
This is all a part of the government/media war on the black man, right?
This interview will be really really bad for Obama and will force him to respond yet again. If he were smart, he would go into hiding and never talk or be seen again.
Posted by: John | April 24, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Ok. This is just sticking his foot in deeper. But i guess their internal polling says Obama’s liberal backing wont be at risk no matter who stupid he sounds.
Posted by: tomdavie | April 24, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
It would be nice to hear the entire sermons so that we can form our own opion.
Posted by: Bernie | April 24, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
If one wants to hear a true hater watch Hannity and the majority of his chicken hawlks on Fox News. Signed middle aged white dude, high school degree, and earn under 50 grand.
Posted by: Jim | April 24, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I for one am unconvinced. Wright’s involvement with the anti-Israel groups as well as his racist rhetoric stand for themselves. He has not explained these away. Nor has Obama!!!
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 24, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Play the victim instead of owning up to what he has said. Whats new.
Posted by: Hutch | April 24, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Okay people, get all the facts. Listen to the whole sermon and make your own judgement. Let’s unite here as a country and quit demoralizing others we know nothing about.
Posted by: SUNMAKER777 | April 24, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I do not buy this explanation. Some sound bites are unsettling period; we do not need to hear the whole sermon to be alarmed by them. Also, I would like to know how Rev. Wright would address the contents of Trinty’s website (that is the contents that were posted before all of this erupted). How would he feel if he pulled up the website of Hillary’s or McCain’s church, and that website identified the congregration as being “Unashamedly White.” I will bet a paycheck that he would have lots to say about that. But we are supposed to read that Trinty is “Unashamedly Black” and not wonder aloud if Obama would be a president to ALL Americans??
Posted by: savethemiddleclass | April 24, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Oh by the way. Reverend Wright, because of your race, you are excused from any responsibility for your comments.
Posted by: Chatmandu002 | April 24, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
It doesn’t matter if the good Rev. comes out of this interview smelling like a rose to Obama’s supporters, the rest of the voters already have there own opinion. This little talk is good for Moyers, but very bad for Obama. The Rev. Wright’s ego was not going to let him keep silent until after the election. Well now Obama can deal with it agian….
Posted by: Jim | April 24, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
This guy is a joke and is not helping Obama. He should just keep his mouth shut. There is no way to justify the quotes we heard with our own ears.
Posted by: Not Stupid | April 24, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Somebody really needs to tell this man that HE’S NOT HELPING.
Posted by: DaveM | April 24, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Sounds to me like Rev. Wright is letting the public know that Obama distanced himself from the remarks as a political move NOT because he necessarily disagreed with the hate speech. Obama did what was politically required to save his own hide. You can bet the two of them will make “nice” if Obama should get the nomination and really, really nice if he should win the GE
What I want to know, did Obama allow his children to listen to the sermons? So much for his “judgement”.
Posted by: Bill Elliott | April 24, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
You all prove his point with every post.
Everyone keeps asking Obama about his pastor….all he has to do is answer the questions….why? He has answered them, but only a small percentage of people see them, and the other percentage just keeps saying ‘all he has to do is answer the questions’.
So no matter what he says, at this point, it won’t make a difference.
Wright is absolutely correct that what is being done is dishonest. And I’m absolutely convinced the powers that be already know that. But who’s concerned about honesty? It sure isn’t the clintons.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
The Reverend is right!
I never understood what exactly he said that was so damaging. His words ARENT Racist! Where is the racism? They might have been irresponsible to the general public but he was talking to HIS church.
I don’t get it. Since when does white America care about what goes on in the Black church? We say a lot of things that may seem shocking but that doesn’t change that fact that African Americans love this country or are able to co exist with their white counter parts.
He is right about America and more importantly, he has a right to say what he wants about America. That is the freedom of this nation!
Why should Barak Obama, a politician have to answer for words that where not his?! If that is the case we should be taking a good look at John McCain and Pastor Manning!
Posted by: Tahari | April 24, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Hillary and Bill are reaching for straws and trying to fool the people in NC and IN it wont work the American people are fed up with the Clintons, Bushs, and the old sneaky McCain Bush want-to-be politics as usual. The American people are to smart for that and will turn the page. The talk radio Conservatives shook Jocks want the American people to believe that their for Hillary but they want the fight between Hillary and Obama to continue until November to try and make McBush look good that want work either.
Obama’s state wins 30 lost 15, Delegate count 1715 +/-, Negatives are way down, Better nominee
Clinton’s state wins 15 lost 30, Delegate count 1585 +/-, Negatives way up. Not a good nominee.
Fund Raising Obama beats Clinton or McCain Expediently.
Registering new voters Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Bring the country together Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Overall, Obama beats Clinton or McCain.
Race against McCain, Obama better nominee.
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | April 24, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
He doesn’t need to unsay it, just put it in context. If you read the entire sermon, it makes a modicum of sense. He’s absolutely correct about the sound bite effect. How easily did the trolls on this site accept the preaching of extreme white conservative christians (Hagee, Falwell, Robertson, Phelps) when they bashed the US as being at fault for Katrina, 9/11 and terrorism in general because we tolerate feminists, homosexuals, gambling, pornography and abortion? Come on People!
Posted by: andee | April 24, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Hello, people. I suggest you listen to the entire sermon. I didn’t think his comments were that controversial after listening to the full context of it. I actually agreed with a lot of what he had to say. He was talking about a lot of injustices that the US government has caused people throughout its history – like all governments, the US government hasn’t been perfect. The fact is, comments are made in any church in America (e.g. anti-homosexual remarks, etc.) that are controversial. It’s made even worse if you chop it down into a 30 second sound byte.
I suggest everyone listen to the full sermon. Seriously, stop being so ignorant passing judgment without listening to the whole thing – I wouldn’t judge your character based upon the 30 seconds worth of your most inappropriate comments, so why should you do the same for Rev. Wright?
Posted by: Joe | April 24, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Whilst I haven’t heard his sermons in their entirety (I would like to), from what has been released by the media it would appear as though he espouses a message of hate and radical politics centred on race relations.
Any religious leader who preaches politics in any form is destined for some degree of controversy. As intelligent as Mr Obama is, he should have realised what he was getting himself into, when he joined Wright’s parish. He brought this on himself.
Posted by: Stephen | April 24, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Well I will pass on this. Please get back to me tomorrow and do tell who was wearing A FLAG PIN!
And oh was it engraved in tiny little letters god dam america? That will most likely be on the back!
Posted by: HP Boston | April 24, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
What I am hearing is yet another Obama advisor telling us that Obama is saying what he needs to to get elected but people who know him know he doesn’t mean it. He doesn’t really condemn the remarks or the pastor, he isn’t really against NAFTA, he is really going to get troops out in 16 months, he is just a politician doing what he needs to do.
Posted by: Liz | April 24, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
The fact that the sermons of Wright were even made available for purchase through his church website, reinforces the gloat and arrogance of Wright in convincing himself that the contents were perfectly acceptable and needed to be shared with anyone willing to pay for them. The excerpts weren’t publicized for devious reasons rev, they were publicized to reveal the real truth about the character and judgment of your buddy and student Obama. When truth is revealed, painful as it may be, it is never negative, while being enlightening. The grand cover-up by Obama and his camp has been revealed, enlightening most intelligent people. If Wright didn’t want to be discovered or exposed, perhaps he never should have used his pulpit to spew forth his militant hate-speech. Wright the political liability will rightly continue to dog Obama. These Wright excerpts were not taken out of context; hate speech is hate speech, even when coated with other words strung together in sentences before during and after the other filth.
Posted by: Terry | April 24, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
he is right obama does say what he has to say which is lies to america
Posted by: del | April 24, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
See.. its happening again, we are talking about the issue agian. Sound bite, full sermon, what ever, get ready to see the clips on the airwaves agian tonight. I just want to thank the good Rev. as a supporter of Hillary. Hmmm is NC out of reach?
Posted by: Jim | April 24, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
The fact that the sermons of Wright were even made available for purchase through his church website, reinforces the gloat and arrogance of Wright in convincing himself that the contents were perfectly acceptable and needed to be shared with anyone willing to pay for them. The excerpts weren’t publicized for devious reasons rev, they were publicized to reveal the real truth about the character and judgment of your buddy and student Obama. When truth is revealed, painful as it may be, it is never negative, while being enlightening. The grand cover-up by Obama and his camp has been revealed, enlightening most intelligent people. If Wright didn’t want to be discovered or exposed, perhaps he never should have used his pulpit to spew forth his militant hate-speech. Wright the political liability will rightly continue to dog Obama. These Wright excerpts were not taken out of context; hate speech is hate speech, even when coated with other words strung together in sentences before during and after the other filth.
Posted by: Terry | April 24, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
He is a hate-filled man. Now, that his precious Obama has been called on the carpet, Wright is trying the twist and turn dance to lighten his load. He is a nasty man; Obama stayed with the church and the hate-filled preacher….that gives support to Wright. If Wright hates Americans, whites and America so much, he is welcome to leave and go somewhere else to spew his hatred.
Posted by: dixiecharms | April 24, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
If there is nothing wrong with Wright’s sermons, then why did Obama feel the need to denounce (or whatever word you want to use) the sermons and give a speech on race? Maybe Obama should have just published the speeches, instead of giving his speechm if the speeches in their entirety meant something else than the words we heard.
Where can I find the speeches in their entirety?
Many people/organizations who preach/teach hate also do some good.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 24, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
This whole thing make me sick. I’m am tired of people not owning up to what they say or who they are associated with. This reverend is a racist in it’s purest form and if obama is tolerant of the person and will not disavow him in the most compelling way he is one as well.Weshould all take a very clear look at who really is this obama person and what he stands for.
Posted by: sickinct | April 24, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I’m sure the Obama supporters will find it surprising that their candidate isn’t really above the political fray.
“Wright says. “And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician.”
Posted by: cappamore | April 24, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Once Obama and mcmore-war start going at it the Hagee issue will play out. This will probably be worse for him than wright is for Obama. mcmore-war will have a lot of explaining to do to the large block of Catholic voters in this country. Obama 2008!
Posted by: pt | April 24, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
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Of all the commenters here, the number of people who have ACTUALLY listened to Wright’s sermon: maybe about 3?
LISTEN. TO. THE. SERMON. FIRST., and then COMMENT. Then you’ll see that his comments aren’t that offensive — they need to be understood through the perspective of the history of black church and the injustices done by the US government over the last 200 years.
Posted by: Rob | April 24, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Hmm… do I detect some truth to Rev Wrights sermon. Do this wonderful country of ours have any faults. He does not appear to be backing down and nor should he. This country though it is great has man faulty policies. Do that mean that we should love it any less???? Get over it!!!!! It is his words and his opinion and as an American he should be entitled. This man fought for this country and his opinion should be heard just like Rush etc. I did not hear Obama giving any such sermon. I guess it is guilt by association. Than we need look and see who Clinton and McCain associates with. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!
Posted by: Whitewoman | April 24, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
“Hmmm is NC out of reach?”
Good question.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 24, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
This is getting interesting… I was laughing as I was reading the story. So it seems to me that Wright is making absolutely NO apologies for his sermons.. but NObama did make such.. on Wright’s behalf or? Obama’s finished. Bye Bye Barry..
Posted by: DMK | April 24, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
It looks like Obama is going to steal the election by not letting the people of FL & MI participate so his nomination will forever be tainted. I’ll never vote for Obama so I’ll be forced to vote for McCain. It’s sad though because Hillary could beat McCain. The Dems are done.
Posted by: MG | April 24, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Everyone should read the whole sermon. Not only that, google Dr. Jeremiah Wright Hope sermon. Read that sermon. It’s excellent. Where most people go wrong is they’ve heard the few snippets of tape, and then they assume that that’s what happens in every one of his sermons. That is not the case. He mostly preaches about hope and love and personal responsibility, and developing a closer personal relationship with God.
The hatred toward Dr. Wright is so unfair and unjust. It’s all based on waaaay too little information and people making false assumptions about him.
What a shame that so many people in this country have such poor critical thinking skills.
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
MG,
Do not give up. NObama’s not going to steal the election.. We won’t let that happen, nor will Hillary!
Posted by: DMK | April 24, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Don’t Bill Clinton and Rev Wright understand they’re only hurting their respective candidates everytime they say something just when the controversies are about to die down? Anyone up for taking up a collection and sending them off to a secluded island away from the media?
Posted by: jmengate | April 24, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I still haven’t heard Wright OR Obama explain away the church’s association with anti-Israel groups.
But, as long as he keeps talking, the issue of his racism will continue to be refreshed in thinking voter’s minds!
Except, of course, those hicks in Pennsylvania who are too busy wallowing in self pity and bitterness to understand issues like immigration.\
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 24, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I am glad to see that some of the commentors actually heard the WHOLE sermon and made their comments based on what they heard for themselves. THe rest of you probably would call yourselves Christians or Jews and, if so, you would know that God does frown upon (dam*) any nation that slaughters innocents, and, yes, this country has done much of that–but this is the “land that I love” not the “government that I love”. Know the difference!!
Posted by: Dawuud | April 24, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Wright is correct! Obama says what he what a politican needs to say and Wright says what he needs to say as a preacher. Hopefully, we all get it, let’s not drink the kool-aid and see Obama and Wright for their true thoughts,racist bigots. This spin from Wright says it all..
Posted by: Ginny | April 24, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Everyone has something to say including me. I do agree with Rev. Wright’s comments. Look at the sermon in its entirety. Most black people hear this every sunday at church and we don’t hate white people. But our reality is what Rev. Wright preaches.
Posted by: my own mind | April 24, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
OK, I just found a copy on the internet of his entire 9/11 speech. The gist of his speech is that America is to blame for what happened on 9/11. Maybe I am missing something but what other message am I supposed to get?
Posted by: sarnorton | April 24, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
He’s saying, “Listen to the whole sermon before you judge?” Did anyone writing comments condemning Rev. Wright do that? Did the media do that? Will they show a whole sermon for us to listen to so that we can decide how we feel about the comments? The answer to all of those questions if probably not, but they continue to judge anyway. The other issue is every time I hear Senator Clinton say she would not have been a member of that church, I cringe. Contrary to what she says….she can pick some of her family. She chose to marry and stay married to Bill Clinton when millions of American women put themselves in her place and would have called a press conference on the steps of the White House, suitcase in hand waving goodbye to Bill and Monica. I would have left, but didn’t judge her for not doing so, because that was a very personal decision and one that only she could make….I couldn’t get inside her feelings about her marriage and this man and I understood that. The hypocrisy involved in her comments about Rev. Wright are astonishing. I was raised Catholic and went to a church where my grandparent’s, parent’s, my siblings and I were all married and baptized. Every funeral has been there. We had a priest for 18 years that no one respected or even liked, and he said some pretty awful, hurtful things. It would never have occurred to us to leave that church because of him and go to another. It was our church, and he was not going to be there forever…the church as an entity existed without him and it was and is a part of who we are. I know a lot of people of all religions who feel that way about their church or synagogue. I am simply amazed at people like Senator Clinton who can dismiss this loyalty to a church this way. I have always wondered how people can change churches as much as they do….but lest I sound like I am judging anyone….it is absolutely their right to do so. Respect for someone’s personal decisions is even better when it works both ways.
Posted by: Audrey | April 24, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Oh…let me stir the pot. Does America deserve to be damned…NO! Americans in recent years have shown the world that have the ability and generousity to help those in ned all over the world. Has this country done some down right mean spirited & wrong acts to it minority “citizens” (a.k.a those who are non-white & non-male). HELL YA! This country is not innocent and it has NOT fully owned up to the wrongs of its past. I say this because too many people are offended when they hear wrongs of this country’s past. The damning of this country was wrong and overboard, but the complaints are valid. And it’s time we, as a nation, own up to it instead of pretending we are, have been and always will be innocent and righteous on all accounts. WE’RE NOT! There…I think the pot is sufficiently stirred.
Posted by: LowB44 | April 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Hey I have heard the whole speech, it was and is available. Heads in sand??
If you listen you will be disgusted!
The “words” are hateful in and out of context.
Posted by: HP Boston | April 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I have a challenge to a reasonable person – did you watch the full sermon? If the answer is Yes, I would accept what you are going to say. I did some research on the sermon, and found out that it is not that bad, in fact a lot of people have said wore than that. Rev. Wright seems has a ‘reason’ for his statement. Remember is the generation of the past – Jim Crown era.
Posted by: John Elias | April 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Keep on talking Rev. Wright. It’s good you remind people from time to time about your racist views. I sure wish he’d expand his dialog to include his church’s relationship with anti-Israel groups. I haven’t heard a word about that from Wright OR Obama!
Posted by: Surelock Homes | April 24, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
No wonder Obama stayed home today.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 24, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
BILL CLINTON was elected thanks to BLACKSHow many blacks voted for Bill clinton in 1992 ?Over 85 percent.Blacks have been voting for a white president for a long time (since the black man got thevoting rights)Think about that.
Posted by: Tomagam | April 24, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Does this Pastor rant every Sunday? I won’t support Obama because he still supports the Pastor that Preaches “#%&* America” maybe he should just move if he hates The United States
Posted by: Don | April 24, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
“he says what he has to say as a politician”
Thank you Wright for admitting Obama is nothing but a phony who agrees with the teaching our your church, but is forced to say things he doesn’t really mean.
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
So many comments on here that show ignorance and apathy. Too many people have the I don’t know and I don’t care attitude. Meaning, you have made up your mind without examining the facts (or in this case listening to the whole sermon- not just a sound bite). Gee, that makes you exactly like George Bush and how he made up his mind about Iraq.
Posted by: John | April 24, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I guess it is OK when a Black person uses inflammatory speeches to try tear down another race or races in his case, not all white people are racists and not all black people are victims, guys like Rev. Wright try to stir up their base and then cry foul when folks call him on it. You want to spout out generalizations and actual lies in some cases, do not be surprised when normal folks call you on it! If he had been white and made these statements about black people he would have been buried a long time ago, he is getting what he deserves and I think less of Obama for backing him!
Posted by: david | April 24, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Religion and politics don’t mix well. This is not a good thing for Obama. Wright’s interview will not undo the damage already done. It will just bring it back into the media discussion at a time when he doesn’t need the negative publicity.
Posted by: mhhunt | April 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Why would anybody want to listen to the whole sermon. The sound-bite says it all. There are no words that can be wrapped around what he said that could possibly justify his words. He’s a bigot!
Obama — where are you? Don’t you want to say something nice about your friend and mentor?
Posted by: S | April 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Obama’s mother must be soo proud to know that the son she raised who is equal parts black and white, and an American born son to this nation, our country, that our young men and women fight for, is associating with and doesnt really downplay a pastors words of such hatered. I would hate to be his family. How ashamed they must be to know he’s ok with the church being a political forum of hate, radical anti american/governmemt speeches. How ashamed I am of him. He of all people should NEVER tolorate such trash. I’m wishing Hillary the best. Wake up America!!! Is this really the person you want standing behind our good flag?
Posted by: grainofsalt | April 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
“I guess it is guilt by association.”
The more important thing is how Obama reacted to the uproar over revelations about the church — at first denying he’d heard anything anybody would consider unpleasant, then morphing the uproar into a fairly boring and predictable speech about “racism” which was fawned over by white liberals — and the fact that Wright retired AND left the country for a while.
Someone here raised the question yesterday of why Wright, having spouted all that white-devil nationalism for years and years — financially underwritten by the church, to which the Obamas made donations — is retiring to a lavish “white” neighborhood. It’s not a bad question.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I don’t understand people who say that this is the kind of sermons they listen to every Sunday. What churches are you going to? I’ve attended a lot of churches in various denominations and I’ve never heard politics in church. I’ve heard about the Bible and comparisons to current events, but not anything which supports a political agenda.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 24, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I think it made it worse! Did I understand him to say that Obama is a typical politician?
Posted by: jim | April 24, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Wright just gave people an excuse to hate Obama. Some hate him because he is liberal, some because he is a democrat, some because he is a different politician, and others because he is black.
Posted by: The Unshrub | April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Before you come to conclusion, watch the entire sermon, then you have a valid reason to say whatever you want. If you have not done that, you are driven by emotion, not by reason
Posted by: John Elias | April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Send Bill and the good preacher to a deserted island for the duration. WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY? WHAT ABOUT THE WAR? WHAT ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS? Issues people issues.
Posted by: JENNY | April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
This idiot pastor is nuttier than a cashew factory and anyone who listens to his diareal drivil is an idiot. What, he thinks we are all stupid or something? all one has to do is listen to this fools rantings to know he is wacked. I think Obama is a lying con man, but feel sorry for him because this dub just wont go away.Its a great year to be a republican.
Posted by: steve | April 24, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
SherlockHolmes at 2:25 – I found the article interesting. I’m glad that the reverand is finally addressing some of this. What I don’t understand is your stupid comment. What does this have to do with “hicks in Pennsylvania”? More importantly, who are you to judge the people of PA and exactly what makes them hicks? You are rude and an idiot.
Posted by: ibfay | April 24, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“The persons who have heard the entire sermon understand the communication perfectly”.
Rev Wright is right. I am one of those, and I was kinda surprised to find out that in the infamous 9/11 clip, he was quoting the all white former US ambassador Peck. The sermon was about how to respond to 9/11, and Wright warned against hateful retaliation.
All you people calling Wright a racist bigot, tell me: How is that radical?
Posted by: El Pajaro | April 24, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Critique of America is good. The country is highly flawed and in need of fixing on many levels. But a president must come from a place of believing that America is a great and wondrous nation, capable of amazing things and truly the hope of the world. Which it is. If it had not welcomed my family, they would have most likely perished. For all the good works done by his church, it comes with a steady diet of hate speech. The impression is certainly that Sen. Obama is indeed “saying what a politician needs to say” but that deep deep he joins his “spiritual mentor” in being very angry and bitter with America.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 24, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
FACT:
Obama is simply weaker than
Clinton or McCain…
not mention he is a traitor…
Posted by: frankf@f.com | April 24, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
JENNY
And issues that Obama can’t articulate without his script-writers.
Posted by: S | April 24, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
John you only say they are ignorant because they don’t agree with you. I have listened to the entirety of the speeches and still find him to be a biggot and has made some un-patriotic remarks. He had some well spoken sermons but there’s just something not right there. I don’t like how they are so proud of their words when they are spoken out of their very mouths and when people question the true underlying meaning of them they say I didn’t say that it was taken out of context. Or the most famously overused it is my first amendment right(to degrade you, our country, or anyone who disagrees with me).
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
FACT:
Obama is simply weaker than
Clinton or McCain…
not mention he is a traitor…
Posted by: frankf@f.com | April 24, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I might add that many of us who support Hillary are going to actively support McCain so Nobama loses. Hillary ’12
Posted by: MG | April 24, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
The good reverend’s diatribe against America may end up squashing Obama’s campaign. I think some of the people who hear this over and over again thanks to right wing media are buying into the idea that Obama is racist by proxy.
Posted by: Bob | April 24, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
hopesprings52 very very well put!!
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Anybody inspired by Obama’s empty
, filthy rhetoric???
Posted by: george | April 24, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Obama supporters.. your missing the point, its not about listining to the whole sermon…Rev. Wright is bringing this up agian, this is not good for Obama! Hammas builds hospitals, bigoted white preachers help people in there flock. These people can do good deeds but they are trouble to who ever they support. We heard the words, we saw the video, he is not helping Obama get elected.
Posted by: Jim | April 24, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
What’s amazing to me is how much Republicans and Hillary supporters seem to agree with each other. They are both teaming up to try to take down Obama. Terry McCauliff (sp?) was recently praising Fox for being fair and balanced for God’s sake!
Can’t everyone see that they are trying to keep Obama out because they know that he actually will change Washington? It’s clear that the corrupt establishment is trying to keep the reformer out.
Phylo out.
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Jesus, Your Lord
“Taki it from me that Rev Eright is a nutcase. You cannot point to one sermon where I preached against the white-devil. I never blamed the US Government for creating the Red Sea Disease. I did not criticize Rome for building the prisons for thistle bush smokers who got caught three times. While Obama sat listening to that hate for 20 years, over and over, I kept placing messages in his head “leave, leave, walk out.” Did Obama listen to me? Nope. Now I have other good works to do like filling Hillary’s campaign with another 10 million and re-directing Obama’s website to Hillary’s. Don’t worry. I love America. I can assure you from a close source it will always be God Blessing America. I would never give you Obama for President. I have already decided if not Hillary then McCain.”
Posted by: The One | April 24, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama is losing because he clings to
guns/religion and the antipathy of other
people!!
Get out of this proud country!
Posted by: george | April 24, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Its a great year to be a republican.
–Steve
I guess this sums it up. So one can’t say that you’ve been objective in your assessment of Wright.
F. D. A. Fox’s Dumbing America.
Posted by: Lance D. | April 24, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
I will never vote for Obama.
Hillary 2008!!
Posted by: Oita | April 24, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Mike Lupica was saying how if the Clintons can’t beat you on the field, they’ll keep fighting you in the parking lot. He hates Hillary but for me, that is the reason I love her – she’s a fighter and I trust she’ll fight to keep us safe. Obama wants to have tea parties with our enemies. He’s way, way too liberal and wimpy for many of us.
Posted by: Melanie | April 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
All this is irrelevant since Obama
is such a loser…
Posted by: peaches | April 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Keep talking Rev. Wright. Please!
Posted by: S | April 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Then you’ll see that his comments aren’t that offensive
Oh? Why is it that suggesting gay men and lesbians require conversion, that we have no right to sanctioned relationships and children not considered offensive? I sure as hell is to me. In addition it is deeply hurtful and threatening.
To make the arguement that such hate speech is acceptable coming from Rev. Wright because it’s spewed in many churches is both specious and disrespectful of the many, many churches and faith traditions that do not endorse or espouse such bigotry.
Posted by: Fleur du Mal | April 24, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
People please STOP trying to hold the black man down! What are u scared of?
Posted by: Angie | April 24, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Wright responds. “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences.
Yes, but both audiences have children listening. How can you claim to be practicing in the faith of Jesus Christ and preach hatred to adults and children? Regardless if what was shown was only a clip from the whole sermon, you said it! I don’t have a problem critiquing American policies or things that are wrong with the country; I don’t think we, as a country, are perfect. But, my problem lies in the fact that you were standing in front of a CHURCH spouting off and encouraging divisions.
The fact that Obama sat through 20 years of this and, like most of the country, I believe he knew full well of what was occurring in the church and sermons, makes his claims that he could unite the country highly questionable.
Posted by: Andrea | April 24, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Despite the press, the fact that Hillary
Clinton is the best is becoming clearer
and clearer….
Hillary 08!!!
Posted by: edith | April 24, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
What Mr. Wright actually says here is that Mr. Obama agrees with him on his hate sermons but had to reject them as a “politician” that is he had to play cover up to make sure people hear what they would like to hear. And Obama is a unifier, a candidate of change and post-partisan – in what way?
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
God bless his wonderful ministry! Shame on the Republicrites and those who invite HAGEE and televangelist self serving hyprocrties to endorse McCain. People forget that the Bible says “be kind to the least of thy brothers”!
God Bless
Obama for putting up with all this!
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I understand that, in some cases, black voters vote blindly because they think Obama is black.
They need to know he is:
50% White American, 43% Arab Muslim and only 7% Black African!
WONDER IF THEY WOULD VOTE DIFFERENTLY IF THEY THOUGHT SENATOR OBAMA WAS PORTRAYING HIMSELF TO BE BLACK — JUST FOR THEIR VOTES?
He is a typical politician who will say and do anything to get what he wants.
HILLARY 2008!
Posted by: ProudCarolinaGirl | April 24, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Words do matter. Back peddling only works a few times before people scratch below the surface in search of the truth. Perhaps Reverend Wright and Barack Obama can not or refuse to see that their marketing of blame, shame and excuse-making is reprehensible to many people and can not take them to the finish line – or maybe they truly buy into the BS that was being served up. Whatever, we’re not all blind. We’re not all gullible.
Posted by: Liz | April 24, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
This is so funny listening to people criticize someone for saying something that’s true. Most of you speak hate, the same thing you accuse Rev. Wright of during, and that is because you live in your bigotted world, where no matter what you do to others, they should just forget. Example – Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols blew up a building in oklahoma and killed babies, women, men, just murdered them. But they are white Americans Chistians, but I don’t see all of you putting down christiians. But wait, because the media displays muslims as radicals, so you all lump all muslims together even though muslims have lived in this country fro years peacfully. It’s funny we have white racist supremacy camps right here in the US who want to overthrow the goverment and they hate all minorities, but you all ignore that, and I think the reason is you share there views, but you jump on others with the same issues you have. Just to let you know I am a black man, who is christian. I realize that as a black person, blacks are racist to. Ignorant backwards, just like ignorant backward whites. The politicians divide you every four years until they get your vote, and hen they screw everyone, black, white whoever. Grow up people and quit letting people divide you.
Posted by: Atlanta | April 24, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Even if he managed somehow to get elected Obama wouldn’t be the first Black President, he isn’t even 100% black he’s half white. That would make him what the first interracial Pres.
Posted by: m&m | April 24, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
I don’t care about the Reverned. I don’t like his style, but then that’s me. I can’t forgive him about the 911 reference, especially on the Sunday after it happened. That was not right! 3000 people died and he has no respect. I can’t imagine that would be the way of Jesus Christ. However I am concerned about Obama. I don’t think that he will be elected President because there is another person who is more electable. The speeches are the same. The people can’t eat hope sandwiches, they are looking for the beef. Pam H
Posted by: Pamela D. Hayes | April 24, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
I’ve always noticed that the most dangerous haters are the ones who dispense good works as they brainwash. Again, Hitler provided jobs and revitalized the German economy and sense of pride while mobilizing an evil that will hopefully never be visited on the world again. Terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah worm their way into people’s hearts and minds with their messages of hate through social projects. The really dangerous evil is the hate that packages itself as good works. It always ends in scapegoating and victimizing others outside the core group.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 24, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I’ve seen the entire videos. I still think the Reverend is a racist, anti American slime. As a black woman I would never subject my children to such bigotry and racism. I almost vomited in my mouth when he’d hump the air while talking in the videos. He’s one of those sick racist blacks that keep racism going. I’m ashamed as a black woman that people like the Reverend, Obama, and Michelle are still keeping racism alive.
Posted by: Rawyn | April 24, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Tk Paul…If you go to a church that says worse things than Obama’s mentor Wright you should be ashamed to ever go there again. Once would be enough for me.
Posted by: carolyn | April 24, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
what a bunch of DUMB comments from so called Christians.
bible bangers are as dangerous as al r. quaida! myopic, hateful, and only they are going to Heaven. They will be surprised. Hillary is acting evil by stirring this up with McCain.
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I am a rural, small-town American. I’m not bitter. I don’t carry a gun but I do believe in the Holy Bible and God.
Hillary won in Pennsylvania, despite being outspent by Obama’s “mega bucks” and bombardment on TV, radio, internet ads, phone calls, etc., etc., because we believe Hillary to be the better candidate — pure and simple. True Americans cannot be bought!
Hillary was GREAT in the Pennsylvania debate — Obama did quite poorly.
OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO DEBATE IN NORTH CAROLINA. He apparently can only read a pretty scripted speech from a teleprompter — And he wants to run our country??? NO WAY!
Does he plan to have Jeremiah Wright spewing “God Damn America” from the White House? It’s bad enough he did it in a church of God.
Are Obama’s frequent visitors going to be their anti-American, terrorist friends: bomber Ayers, Farrakhan, Rezko, among others?
We need someone to show respect to ALL Americans, regardless of where they live.
GOD BLESS AMERICA — HILLARY 2008!
Posted by: EASTCOAST | April 24, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
To Angie,
It isn’t about color it is about…
1. A recession and a possible depression
2. A war in Iraq
3. A war in Afghanistan
4. Home prices falling and foreclosures up
5. Food and gas prices going up and up
Take a look at someone with a proven record to solve these problems and it is not Obama. I take real offense to the issue that it is all about race. You can not simply write off a vote that is for Clinton because the person is racist.
Posted by: Andrea | April 24, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
It was never about race until Mr. Obama played the race card through his speech. It was never about the pastor, it about Obama’s judgement that he is so proud of. It was never about Obama’s character until his associations and mis-speaks came out.
It is still NOT about race. It is about the character and judgement of the person who wants to be our president.
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
The media has sliced and diced both candidates to a pulp. If memory serves me correctly Ms. Hiliary has plenty of dirty baggage from the past and believe me there’s is probably much more than has surfaced. Of course most policians have baggage. DAH! If they’re willing to step towards the Washington D.C. circle they will be corrupt. Comes w/the territory.
The media is so ready to critized Obama for the Rev. Wright association; what about the time Revenend Wright was called to the White House by President Clinton during his so called bad times in the Lewinsky scandal. This man (Clinton) blantly lied to his country about something so trival and then had to retract it. Come on media, move on and quit slinging mud.
Posted by: Beth D. | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, “Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for ‘spiritual counseling?’ THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I know tell me about it David these Obama and Wright supporters are crazy and ignorant, all they see is the color of the skin and that seals the deal. Words, actions, and policies mean nothing to them.
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Wow, Obama is a politician and says what he has to as a politician.
I’m sure that will help a lot.
Posted by: s.b. | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times’ Nicholas Kristof, “aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich.” McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife’s family money. In 2000, McCain managed to deflect media questioning about his first marriage with a deft admission of responsibility for its failure. It’s possible that the age of the offense and McCain’s charmed relationship with the press will pull him through again, but Giuliani and Gingrich may face a more difficult challenge. Both conducted well-documented affairs in the last decade–while still in public office.
Carol, his wife at the time, had once been quite a babe herself apparently, until a near-fatal car accident (while her husband was in Vietnam) left her 4 inches shorter, overweight and on crutches
How many will guess that Carol McCain is quite possibly a hero of a different kind of war? How many will read between the lines of her exalted ex-husband’s legend and decide that she is simply one of the most courageous examples of a wounded mother who has loved and protected her children at all costs?
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Wright is excusing Obama for lying in his speeches about about not knowing exactly what is going on in his church. No regret, no apology from him either.
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
What Mr. Wright actually says here is that Mr. Obama agrees with him on his hate sermons but had to reject them as a “politician” that is he had to play cover up to make sure people hear what they would like to hear. And Obama is a unifier, a candidate of change and post-partisan – in what way?
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
If Rev. Wright’s sermons were taken “out of context” why has Obama “condemned” and “disowned” various comments? Why is Rev. Wright referring to the “politician persona” of Obama? Does Rev. Wright mean to say that Obama “the man” agrees with the teachings of TUCC (all of them) but Obama “the politician” has to condemn some of them for “political purposes”. The Rev. Wright is now moving into a 10,000 square foot home in an exclusive white neighborhood, on a golfcourse, is this the “white man’s greed” that Rev. Wright preaches about? It’s okay for the Rev. Wright to live like that, but not white people? Obama talks unity, but Obama LIVES HATRED and DIVISION. If Obama really believes the teachings of TUCC, he is not fit to be president.
Posted by: frisco girl | April 24, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
This is all a load of hoooey! You CANNOT take those words he said and explain them away as if they didnt matter. You CANNOT say they were taken out of context. Out of WHAT context??? Wright says “If you would have heard the whole sermon…”. Yeah right, those words he spoke says it all!!!!! And about Obama…..this is only ONE of the seven or eight things he has done to prove he is out-of-touch with the average American.
Posted by: Mark | April 24, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Ohioliberal… The less educated and misinforned ..handed him his rearend in PA, expect more of those results in the primaries to come.
Posted by: Jim | April 24, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Man you people are friggin idiots. They focus on Rev Wright’s clips because they can’t find anything substantive to actually complain about with Obama himself and his actual plans and policies to change our country.
Wright’s not running for president, you morons.
Go back to voting for American Idol or something you might know something about.
By the way, McCain just got an endorsement from Rev Hagee, a complete nut-case. it’s a non-issue. Why aren’t we hearing Hagee’s clips over and over?
Those of you voting for McCain if Obama wins, enjoy basically 4 more years of Bush.
Posted by: shanon | April 24, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Pastor John Hagee endorsed my candidacy for president in San Antonio, Texas. However, in no way did I intend for his endorsement to suggest that I in turn agree with all of Pastor Hagee’s views, which I obviously do not.”
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
One more thing: How can anyone support Hillary in lie after lie after lie. Now the very latest lie is that she claims to have the most votes of any candidate when everyone (with a brain) knows that you can’t count Florida and Michigan primaries. It’s that disingenousness that is disgusting. I want a president where I don’t have to “Fact Check” every thing they say as my first reaction!!!!!
Posted by: Ohioliberal | April 24, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Once again, the Clinton, say anything, do anything to win the nomination has taken over. The Clinton “Rip them to shreads” ideology. The woman is a liar, we know she’s a liar and yet people are jumping on her bandwagon because she’s a woman. “We want a woman President”. Fine, elect a woman President, but please DON’T elect a damned liar and please DON’T elect a woman with so many skeletons in her closest that she’s the poster-girl for halloween. After all, she does ride on a broom…doesn’t she?
Posted by: Wait a minute | April 24, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I tell you it’s just plain embarrassing and annoying as a black woman to have Obama pull out the race card. He has had alot of those white folks votes all along. He’s damaged now that folks are getting to know about his skeletons in the closet. They see he’s all talk and no substance it’s as simple as that, it’s got nothing to do with race..Stop embarrassing us!!
Posted by: Rawyn | April 24, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Wright says about Obama. “And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician.”
OMG… did he mean to say that Obama is a “typical” politician who says anything and agrees with anything to get votes?
Posted by: Fran | April 24, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Wright is saying he is performing for his anti-white, anti-Jew, anti-America congregation so he can afford that $1.6 house. He is saying what his racist chruch goers want to hear.
Wright is also saying that Obama is part of the anti-America racist crowd, but must pretend he is not to get elected.
WOW!
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Andrea,
Do you mean “someone with a proven record” of baking cookies?
Come on, what experience does Hillary have!??
The weekend before the PA primary, I have been convinced more than ever that there is lot of demagoguery and politics of fear in Clinton strategy.
I think that EVEN John Mcain will use not an image of Bin Laden or a nuclear threat to Iran just to steer vote. But, if ANY, he has more proven record as a commander in chief.
Please wake up.
Posted by: Lance D. | April 24, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
GUILT BY ASSOCIATION IS ABSURD.
MY PEOPLE (WHITE PEOPLE) should use their brain.
Are my people going to condemn MCCAIN TOO because of his pastor controversy about other religions (This is well documented). I DO NOT THINK THAT
MCCAIN SHOULD BE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.
I DO NOT THINK THAT OBAMA SHOULD BE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.
BILL CLINTON was elected thanks to BLACKS How many blacks voted for Bill clinton in 1992 ? Over 85 percent. Blacks have been voting for a white president for a long time (since the black man got thevoting rights)Think about that.
As a white man, I was appalled to witness hired fully paid white men waving banners at many polling stations in Pensylvannia, urging white people to vote for thir kind. DISGUTING!
Posted by: Tomagam | April 24, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Isnt “DEBATE” what a Clinton puts on a FISHING HOOK ????????????????
Posted by: philsophherkingtomas | April 24, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Isn’t it ironic that every time there is a big primary on the horizon these kind of smear attacks come out. Maybe, just maybe one should research “the rough cut with Peter Paul”. This will expose the real Clinton Machine.
Posted by: Jack | April 24, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Rev. Wright, be a man, own up to your words. These words were spoken, by you, your worse than Obama. There is no excuse for the words you spoke, the same goes for Obama. Birds of a feather…
Posted by: Abe | April 24, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
You know, I was concerned about what I heard on the TV sound bites, and it does make it sound like he is very anti-American,but, I spoke with my very religious mother in law that is 75 years old, and she told me that in many ways God would damn America. I must admit I was shocked by that but it also gave me comfort because it was coming from someone that reads the bible everyday and her church activities are her life’s work. Yes, she is white and a Methodist and a Republican.
Posted by: Ann, MO | April 24, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Wow. Anyone notice the amount of hate coming out of the brains of people who call Rev Wright a preacher of hate?
You Hillary supporters are as bad as Republicans on this issue.
The amount of ignorance displayed on this thread is truly appalling. What a disgrace to this nation you people are.
Bottom line: You are trying to use Dr. Wright to portray Obama as some kind of racial extremist. Isn’t it obvious to you that Obama doesn’t share those views? Get a grip you silly hysterics.
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
The media is so ready to critized Obama for the Rev. Wright association; what about the time Revenend Wright was called to the White House by President Clinton during his so called bad times in the Lewinsky scandal. This man (Clinton) blantly lied to his country about something so trival and then had to retract it. Come on media, move on and quit slinging mud.
Posted by: Beth D. | Apr 24, 2008 2:51:07
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Clinton and family did not sit in wrights front pew for 20 YEARS!!!
Posted by: HP Boston | April 24, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Unless someone comes up with a video of Obama standing in the front pew applauding the so-called hate filled speech from his pastor – then you need sit down or in the alternative take full responsiblity yourself for every thing your pastor / rabbi / priest ever said every sunday whether you were present or not for all of the years you went to that church – You see how stupid that sounds? Oops, talking to Hillary supportors – mustn’t tell the truth, must feed them lies and more lies.
Posted by: Ohioliberal | April 24, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Funny, certain people want to make it a race issue and find any excuse to say that’s what it’s about. Obama goes to that Church so he must know what the pastor is about and mostly agrees.
IT”S NOT A RACE ISSUE. It’s about who you believe in and think can do the best in Washington. SO, Get over the race thing and move on…………
Posted by: Marie | April 24, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
How can you say God Damn America, and God Damn Americans?
I have never meet you, I have never verbally assaulted you, why to you feel the need to verbally assault me?
I don’t know you I have never been to your church, but I would never want my children to attend your church.
What you are breeding is contempt and hatred.
What I want my children to learn is love, compassion, and have the ability to forgiven those who have wronged them.
With sermons like yours this country will never be able treat people as equals.
And that is the greatest shame of all when a religious leader can not preach about piece and love of all.
Instead they preach, love thy neighbor by the color of their skin, or the god they worship.
With all due respect I believe that is what is truly wrong with this world is; We have lost the ability to love, respect, and accept, one another’s beliefs, norms and values.
Why not try preaching that, instead of hatred.
Posted by: John | April 24, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Free speach, anyone? How ’bout, “..the opinions expressed are not necessarily those of..”? I am more disappointed in the voters of PA for their lack of vision than I ever could be in the words of a church leader, dedicated to his community. If the good citizens of PA want Hillary for their governor, they can wrestle New York for her. “Big States” have made big mistakes before, and I am not impressed.
Posted by: oblio62 | April 24, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
philsophherkingtomas —– Nice post. Of course it has nothing to do with the subjaect at hand. I’m sure you can wait a couple of months to jump all over McCain with dirt. But remember, when it was Bill Clinton’s affairs, that was a “personal issue” and we were supposed to overlook it!
Posted by: Mark | April 24, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Mr. Jeremiah Wright, I do not think for a second that anyone is painting you “as some sort of fanatic”. You, sir, are a fanatic! A highly dangerous fanatic, to be more precise.
Yes, Mr. Wright, I’ve listened to your sermons in question. I respectfully disagree with your self-conclusion that there is nothing wrong with them. There are many things that are terribly wrong with your egotistical, hate-filled, bombastic sermons, sir!
As the poster ‘len’, has said here… “Now the question is, do you want groups that can do good work but have a disturbing and blatantly anti-white bias holding the most important seat of power in the world? That is what is driving voters away from his candidacy, not his race.” Well said, “len”!
“Words matter”, and so do the associations, friends and mentors one decides to keep.
Posted by: OpusRooster | April 24, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Tre us “white biggots” will try for the most part. Please, I’m white as is the genetic make-up of half of Obama. Up until I reviewed some of the things he stood by: how his grandma got thrown under the bus by him, his refusal to put his hand on his heart during the national anthem, his standing by the word of Rev. Wrigt, and too much more to go on, I was going to vote for him. Not now, not ever and that does not make me a bigot, I wasn’t making this decision on his half black genetic makeup I was making this decision based on what I forsee as his lack of capabilities to hold up the position as President.
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Anyone who espouses hate from the pulpit, in Jesus’ name, is a false prophet. The Obama’s if they are true Christians, need to have their children re-baptized.
Posted by: Louis Jacinto | April 24, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Lance D,
There is nothing wrong to use an image of Bin Laden or a nuclear threat to Iran just to remind voters how dangerous world and what the challenging we are facing. If you can’t take the heat then just get out. Just simple as it.
Posted by: True Truth | April 24, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Give Wright a break. He is after all admitting that his anti-America, pro-Africa, pro-Farrakan persona is an act to appease the people of his church, which include for over 20 years the Obamas. He had to wait until he retired to reveal his true self. A guy who wants to live in an exclusive white neighborhood. We should be looking at who are members of this church.
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
for one am unconvinced. Wright’s involvement with the anti-Israel groups as well as his racist rhetoric stand for themselves. He has not explained these away. Nor has Obama!!!
Posted by: Surelock Homes | Apr 24, 2008 1:59:54 PM
So right.
And PLEAAAAASE give me a break with trying to link Hagee and Mccain.
GET IT STRAIGHT!
McCain didn’t get married by Hagee; Hagee didn’t baptize McCain’s kids; Hagee didn’t name McCain’s book..McCain didn’t sit in Hagee’s church for 20 years!
Hagee was a political manuever for McCain; that’s ALL.
Obama stayed with Wright through thick and thin, even though Obama knew full well of Wright’s close association with Palestinian anti-Israel sympathizers, and Farrakhan!!!
TWENTY YEARS!!!
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
So what? I am a white man 63 years old who voted for Nixon and Reagan but never voted for a Bush or a Clinton. What did the man say in even his most radical statements that were not true???
Posted by: dennis c | April 24, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“The Rev. Wright is now moving into a 10,000 square foot home in an exclusive white neighborhood, on a golfcourse, is this the “white man’s greed” that Rev. Wright preaches about?”
Gosh: just like the Obamas. Don’t suppose the genteel Mr. Moyers got into this — or into the unsolved murder of Wright’s choir director.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 24, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Hillary supporters have no problem with the fact that she can’t open her mouth without lying. Yet they have a huge problem with something Obama’s pastor said when Obama wasn’t even there.
What is wrong with you people. Have the last eight years of lies taught you nothing? You want another pathological liar in the White House? Get a grip on reality you fools. This country is swimming in corruption and Hillary is part of it!
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Obama has proven himself a hypocrite, by his 20 year association/endorsement of Rev. Wright. How can you go to church on Sunday, listen to this racist, hatefilled and anti-American sermon and then Monday through Friday be a unifier, man of peace and true American. The answer: only if your a hypocrite/politician, much worse than politics of old…
Posted by: Akitisha | April 24, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Ozzie —- What better way to judge a man than by the friends he keeps….Wright, Davis, Resko, Ayers….says it all! NO OBAMA, he is out of touch with America!!!!!
Posted by: Mark | April 24, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I am sure the Republicans are going to make Rev. Wright his running-mate in the fall. Rev. Wright will haunt him all through and through, I believe Rev. Right has already done incredible amount of damage to Se. Obama and as well those who support and endorse Sen. Obama and iof they are also runnung against Republican candidates. The Republicans are going tie Rev. Wright around any Democratic candidate’s neck if Sen. Obama is the Democratic party nominee! The damage to the democratic candidates can be extensive. Isn’t it obvious that with all due respect to Sen. Obama’s efforts that he really shouldn’t be his party’s nominee. Besides I don’t think he really can win a presidential race having failed to win even one major state during the primaries. Now very damaging Wright issue hangs around his neck like an albatross and he could take down many Democratic candidates in defeat with him. We all know that Sen. Obama manipulated the caucuses vote with small groups of zealots, but now they are not in play for the presidential election. That’s how most of his delegates came from. After the Rezko and Wright scandals Sen. Obama is far more vulnerable to Republican attacks and his diminished debate performance adds to his troubles. If Sen. Obama is still the Democratic Party nominee somehow, that will be end of story for Democrats. For Sen. Obama, I don’t think he can win without the support of working class and rural American voters, Latinos and older Americans and women voters. African Americans and young liberal city voters have never won presidential elections for the Democrats. The Democratic Super-delegates can save America from having George Bush’s third term from voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton. As for Sen. Obama, I can’t believe can’t save anybody from anything “wright now” and we still have to see how he saves himself? The best chance of winning the White House for the Democrats is still with Sen. Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: charleychaplin | April 24, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Someone please explain to me why Clinton supporters endorse a person that chronically lies and misrepresents the facts to them day in and day out, constantly get’s called on it by people who take the time to check the facts and these same people want that in a leader? Is that sick or dysfunctional or what? If you won’t tolerate a pathological liar as a friend – why do you want one as your president? Randi Rhodes called it right!
Posted by: Ohioliberal | April 24, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Common people wake up and smell the reality of life. In as much as i donnot support Wrights statements, i still think it was taken out of context to serve a polital purpose. We as Americans needs to start thinking outside the box. The reason i said that is as follows; 1. As a black man, you understand the pains of slavery and racism which white people can’t really relate to (by the way, it still exist till today). This is not to throw blames to the present white folks.
2. Wright is a black man that has served his country well but, feels like his country is not recipocrating like it should in other ways.
3. Wright’s statement has no relations to Obama running for president.
You see people my stand on the whole issue is that we should all vote for who we want based on personal convictions and not on indirect negatives views selfish folks try to put in our heads. Most of these politicians donnot genuinely care about the average man. They know that most people can’t even think outside the box which makes them puppets that can easily be swayed. Lets look at the current situation of our economy and, also take a good look at the people running for Office. Lets leave all biases and make the right choice for our great country, The decision that we make today is not for us but, the future of our kids the generation to come. Lets make history by putting someone with the interest of the people in Office. Lets show the world that we are not as naive and stupid as they we are. Lets work in unity to lift this great conutry of ours up. God bless America and the great people of this country.
Posted by: BB | April 24, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
When one is taught, to feel the way one feel, about his country and the people who live in it, how can he or would he change those thoughts. Rev. Wright speaks the way, the black liberation theology teaches the black population to feel. He strongly believes in it’s philosophy, and so does Obama and his wife. If they didn’t they would not attend that church. Same goes for Catholics and Baptist.
Posted by: jp,michigan | April 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
ohioliberal….RIGHT ON…. no one wants to talk about McCains paster bashing gays and blaming Katrina on the gay population in New Orelans, or the Clintons having Wright advice them spiritually in the White House during the impeachment..OH NO…don’t ask those two about their varied relations.
Odd world isn’t it? I think they are just afraid Obama will totally prove everyone wrong and be a great president!
Posted by: cindyct | April 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
We are individuals with freedom of speech. That does not mean that what ever church I attend, I agree with every word that proceeds out of my Pastor’s mouth. Out of the 20 years that Obama has attended this church, it appears that some people tend to focus on 30 second clips. If you want to judge someone, judge the whole 20 years and not 30 seconds. Also be careful of judging others because you may be tested by the same to see what you would do in that situation. I think that so many people do not want to admit that they do not want an African American for President. Does anyone acknowledge that Obama’s mother was white, or are you too busy looking at the fact that his father was Black? From what I have read, Obama’s mother had a great influence on how her children saw the world, with love and kindness. We are all members of the same race (the human race)I am sure that through out your life you have made racial or hateful remarks at one time or another. Let he who is without sin cast the first STONE. I don’t think anyone truly can throw stones at Wright or Obama. One last question: “How many of you attend a Catholic Church?”
Posted by: Annette | April 24, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
WORDS MATTER.
CHOICES MATTER.
You can’t SAY you’re for UNITY and go to a Black SEPERATIST church. Got it???
What does that mean? It means Obama is a HUGE LIAR.
Posted by: N’Obama | Apr 24, 2008 3:04:34 PM
Ding ding ding: that’s the main point.
If you’re stressing in your mission statement a focus on everything black, with God only mentioned once…That’s pretty telling.
“black liberation theology” was created in the 60′s by Jim Cone…it’s not written in stone, or from the Bible.
It’s a reinterpretation like anything else…And no matter what, people who believe it word for word CAN VERY EASILY read into the teaching that the US Government is made up of a majority of whites, and since the US Government is bad, whites are bad.
c’mon people…Wright says that the US Government created HIV to infect blacks.
THAT IS WACKADOODLE!
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
OhioLiberal – You can vote for Obama. But people who are less risk takers will not vote for him. We do not know him and whatever we know is not good.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Phylo se fiser:
Why do you feel the need to bash HRC> this is a controversy around Obama! I thought you wanted change and not to follow the same old politics. Well you are not following that message Obama sends out. Again this is about Obama and not HRC>
Posted by: Brian -CHICAGO | April 24, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Louis Jacinto ,
Are you a prophet? By what standards do you measure who is a true or false prophet? You would do well to keep the debate within the realms of what you know rather than resort to just about anything under the sun to amplifiy the spin which Mrs Clinton first brought up.Don’t just join the bandwagon be your own man in demonstrable terms.
Posted by: Imagine | April 24, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
It’s not about Wright. It’s about the Obamas and everyone else that regulary attened that church. Wright gave them what they wanted. and they ate it up. every G-D America.
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I understood ABC put the clips together. Why would ABC do that? Some of Reverend Wright’s sermons are on You Tube. I saw the one with the “chickens have come home to roost” clip. Reverend Wright’s sermon was very much misrepresented. I truly feel he has been portrayed unfairly. Whoever made those clips, and whoever replayed them (MEDIA), should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: Marilyn | April 24, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Obama took his children to church and listened to this rev. wright. Obana and his wife, Michele, should be locked up for allowing their children to be present when this racist, america hating pastor was preaching.
Posted by: Art | April 24, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Annette:
The issue is Obama misled Americans on this issues and tried to hide his original thoughts or history. He can just simply said I agreed with what my pastor said then let Americans judge whether they accepted or not…
Here is the problem: more people thought he agreed on but he denied in public..
Posted by: True Truth | April 24, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Annette,
this is not about 30 seconds – this is about associations – supporting of Farrakahn – being anti- Israel. This is the kind of stuff that Wright supports and he is a close friend and spirtual adviser. This is not someone who Obama sees only on church day. He sees him on a presonal level – so stop using that foolish argument about a 30 second speech – it is so much more than that.
Posted by: Brian -CHICAGO | April 24, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Annette so you are without sin I suppose, otherwise why would you ask people whether or not they attend a catholic church? That doesn’t have anything to do with this story at all. Neither does skin color really in most of these comments I’ve read from non-Obama supporters. They are choosing not to vote for him not based on his skin color but by his policies, words, and poor choices. Besides isn’t that the basis of voting and elections, judging the character and policies behind the person running to make a sound decision in your own personal beliefs?
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I’ve been amazed at Barack Obama’s ability to remain strong and positive throughout all of the craziness in this election. Even those of you who hate his guts have to admire his strength and steadiness. He has shown he can handle the toughest job in the world with class and poise. He’s the kind of man parents will want their children to be like when they grow up.
Go Obama!
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
The groveling begins.
Posted by: Nikki | April 24, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Destardi
That was NOT McCain’s paster. Are you so desperate that you resort to outright lies? I thought so!
Posted by: S | April 24, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
This interview will only stir the muddy waters for Obama. He should NOT try to save his personal ‘kingdom’ now. Obama will end up paying the price for it. Unwise, Sir.
Posted by: dwntoearth | April 24, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Have you ever wondered why the media has never shown the public the ENTIRE sermon???
Maybe Rev.Wright has a point. The media has only revealed little snippets and sound bits…and never into context
“chicken coming home to roost”, He quoted Malcolm X
I’ve never gone further enough to read the transcript of the sermon
Never sort out to, perhaps I should
The media failed to light to volunteer work done within this church
An African American women whom had doubts of marrying a white men sought out Rev.Wright, he help her with her differences. The possible judgement she would face from both both races.
The coupled married.
Does the media report that???
NO
Is this nation runned by rich white people???
Yes
Is this nation responsible for 9/11???
Partially
Posted by: Vanessa | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
The bottom line is, Obama see’s his chances going down the tube and decided to bring the reverend out of hiding to cover his butt. The damage is done!!!! What Obama needs to realize is that this is just one of many mistakes he chooses to be around. Despite how unfriendly Hillary may be the bottom line is she is the only candidate out of all 3 that actually knows what she’s doing and will be able to get us out of this economic mess that Bush has put us in. I can say that Bush sucks because I didn’t vote for him. Biggest mistake this country every made, lets not make another one.
Posted by: kito11 | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
My question is why do clinton supporters endorse a pathological liar as president?
Rev Wright is a non-issue unless someone got a video tape showing Obama standing up hi-fiving the Rev during one of those speeches. It’s a weak minded excuse to let loose bigotry that is never to far from the surface.
As for “associations” do you really want to list all of the savory characters Hillary has associated with?
GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Posted by: Ohioliberal | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Why didn’t Hussein Obama treat Wright the same way the treated Don Imus? I guess that’s what Wright means when he says Obama “does what politicans do”…anything for a vote!
Posted by: Dyersburg | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Obama has dual citizenship with Kenya, and Islamic country. After reading the Black Value System of TUCC, and realizing that the church centers on helping AFRICA, it is clear why Obama will not wear a flag pin, will not say pledge of allegiance to the flag, will not cover his heart for the National Anthem, because Obama does not want to betray Africa or his Kenyan citizenship. Michelle says that for the first time in my adult life I finally am proud of my country? Is Michelle happy because she and Obama are going to be living like Rev. Wright and displaying “white man’s greed” type homes? The posting from Hamas is sickening, Hamas murdered 26 Americans in Israel since Gaza was given over to the Palestinians. What an embarrassment to our country that a sitting United States Senator attended this church with his wife and two little girls and clapped and cheered these disgusting, hate-filled, horrible sermons.
Posted by: calli | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
This is this most bizarre reasoning I have ever heard. When he says no,no,no not God Bless America, God Dam America! However, I have found something I agree with him. I agree with him on the fact that OBAMA is a “TYPICAL” politician!
Posted by: John in Cape May | April 24, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Ohioliberal,
Who won’t say Obama is a big LIAR????
Posted by: True Truth | April 24, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Obama reminds me of the Pied Piper….The children are clueless where he is leading, but they follow him without question, as long as he keeps playing the pretty music.
Mature, informed and responsible voters want Obama to answer the serious questions. His refusal to be scrutinized is his greatest weakness and may cost him the Democratic nomination if not the Presidency. It DOES matter to the American people who he associates with, if those people are controversial. The old saying, “You are known by the company you keep”, rings true today. It is amazingly strange, why anyone would support his code of silence.
Posted by: Janet | April 24, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
PHylo se Fiser,
did you not watch the debates in PA on 4/16- – Obama stammered and fell apart. I don’t find him strong at all. HRC is strong – she has been enduring this type of stuff for the past 7 months or so. I was not an HRC supporter before but I am know because she is so strong. I know she has alot of controversies – but at least I know what to expect and I believe she will put the country in the right direction. I don’t particulary like her but I admire her strength and determination and her will to stand up to others.
Posted by: Brian -CHICAGO | April 24, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Intersting how there are so many inter-racial multi-cultural churches in America’s metropolitan areas with a positive gospel message for EVERYONE but this preacher’s still stuck in black power mode. He’s sooo retro and for that Barack will pay not only in this election but in his political future as well. Barack, what were you thinking when you sat there for 20 years under this guy? Did you really think America would give you a pass?
Posted by: petee | April 24, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Wow there are a lot of Koolaid drinkers here.
Posted by: Steward | April 24, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
says who tre, you? So my heart is wicked because I choose not to support a man I do not see fit to be President. Nice try honey but you are wrong, but good effort. By the way thanks for reposting my comment, I don’t think enough people got to read it the first time ;). The 80% of the comments that are lies on here are from the very people such as yourself that vote for this man based solely on the color of his skin not even paying attention to anything else. See the bigger picture. It would be great to see a biracial or even a black man voted into office but he is not the one.
Posted by: mel | April 24, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Why is there so much hate involved in this election. Anyone making a nasty comment is just as bad as the person they claim to be so bad. Come on America, use your brains and quit being so prejudice. You must decide to vote with your true knowledge of each candidate, not just all the prejudiced information you get from the media.
Posted by: JAS | April 24, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
ISNT IT IRONIC THAT THE FIRST SERIOUS BLACK CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN BY HIS OWN PASTOR. ISNT IT IRONIC THAT FLA. COST THE DEMS THE ELECTION IN 2000 AND WILL AGAIN IN 2008 BECAUSE OBAMA WILL NOT LET THE PEOPLES VOICES BE HEARD.
Posted by: jimt | April 24, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
My question is why do clinton supporters endorse a pathological liar as president?
Rev Wright is a non-issue unless someone got a video tape showing Obama standing up hi-fiving the Rev during one of those speeches. It’s a weak minded excuse to let loose bigotry that is never to far from the surface.
As for “associations” do you really want to list all of the savory characters Hillary has associated with?
GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Posted by: Ohioliberal | Apr 24, 2008 3:18:29 PM
yes, I want you to list associations of Hillary that she’s had for 20 years.
I want you to list so-called “lies” of hers to warrant such a harsh charge that Hillary Clinton is a “pathological liar”.
you’re talking about of your rear-end.
Obama has given a gift to the republicans with all of his poor associations; WAKEUP! He’s now linked to terrorists (american), Palestinian anti-Israel sympathizers, Wright, His wife is “proud for the first time in her life of America”…This is all on TAPE!!!! My God, we have no chance in November if this charlatan Obama gets the nom.
OHIOLIBERAL, you are SUCKING UP EVERYTHING FROM THE VERY SAME MEDIA THAT GAVE GEORGE BUSH COVER FOR HIS FAILED POLICIES.
Dumb.
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
To Phylo Se Fiser
Obama ability to remain strong! Are you friggin kidding! He is a whinning little baby who uses the race card when ever someone does not agree with him. He could not take 1:10th the bashing the media has put Hillary through. It is the rich and powerful who want Obama because they know they will be able to control him. It is the middle class and poor who want Hillary because they know she is the only one who will stand up again the rich and powerful.
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
“I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.”
…. his church is more akin to a black activist organization than any church I have ever been in. I can see why Obama attended his church … they share the same ability to “spin” the truth to their advantage.
Posted by: Jesus Francisco Cardenas | April 24, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Now we know what’s wrong with this country.
Read the above, i haven’t seen a more racistic crowd in my life. And i’m over 50 now.
Most of the “unbiased”, means Clintonistas here, are a shame for America. If this is your view of a free and open community, well….then we will get what we deserve, HillBill or Mc Can’t.
Posted by: DS | Apr 24, 2008 3:15:40 PM
Show me the “racism”?
And show me now..this ridiculous excuse for questioning Obama’s character and ability to win in November is PATHETIC and WEAK.
Are you pathetic and weak?
Then SHOW ME THE SO-CALLED RACISM!
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
I would vote for Obama if his words were backed up by his actions. Obama was one of the dirtiest politicians in Illinois, he got started in politics with muslim money (Resko, Auchi) and his racist, anti-Jewish associates are disturbing. Obama does not practice what he preaches, sad, but true.
Posted by: cindy | April 24, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
It is kind of funny that ABC is the only one making this a story again. Is this news. yes. Is this the lead story when it was hammered into the ground already. NO
Either people get this guys anger and frustration and believe obama…or not.
This is a distraction. At this pointABC knows the netwrok itself (to the dismay of many of it’s journalists) has put it’s bet down on Hillary.
Jounalists should be asking questions of the relation to food shortages and how that is going to effect terrorism? Why have we seen gas prices go up over the past few years so significantly? What is the outlook for bi-partisan agreement and passing of healthcare bills?
If you are going to cover these controveries over and over do not just cover one candidate that suits you… …why are you not asking Hillary about all of those scandals that the American population did not get answers to. The republicans and John McCain…have not been held to scrutiny… Rev. hagee made some prettyincendiary xcomments today…a lot more news worthy than this. Hillary still has not explained her game plan to use arms race against Iran…by threatening nuclear obliteration and this umbrella protectorate and how it is going to work and be paid for and how it fits with her telling people we are going to get out of Iraq but yet she is talking about protecting the whole area.
If there is nothing new out of this why is it the lead story…because it fans the flames for a specific candidate…yes.
Posted by: dl | April 24, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Based upon the statements here, 95% of all African-American churches are unacceptable. Sen. Obama was not born in the black church as and as such is unable to answer the media’s questions. He should have rattled off 20 sermons that his pastor preached on love, forgiveness, and mercy. He should have told America that in order to understand Trinity, you have to watch 5 services, completely. None of you have done this and none of you will.
Posted by: Lorenzo | April 24, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
How long does the white race have to pay for slavery? The black race of today were not slaves, their parents were not slaves…so…what is the bitch! Will the white race hear this same bull for the next 200 years? Even people who have committed crimes for murder only get 25 years…c’mon, black community get over it. These days you have “Black College Fund” and still get funds from white taxpayers that you do not have to pay back! You have affirmative action that allows you to get a job over a more qualified person because you are black! Quit bitching and blaming the white community because you people can’t get it together! Other ethnic groups came to this country uneducated and worked their asses off for a better like…work yours off to and teach your kids that the welfare system is not really the “wishing well” of the black community!
Posted by: michafiath | April 24, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
BTW, people shouldn’t blame Pastor Wright since he has every right to express what he felt about this world and US…
The only issue is how Obama reacted to his words: has he agreed on for 20 years but denied in public just a month ago???
Posted by: True Truth | April 24, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Hey Clintonistas, what about that?
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During the past week, Sen. Hillary Clinton has presented herself as a working class populist, the politician in touch with small town sentiments, compared to the elitism of her opponent, Sen. Barack Obama.
But a telling anecdote from her husband’s administration shows Hillary Clinton’s attitudes about the “lunch-bucket Democrats” are not exactly pristine.
In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.
“Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”
Quote/
Posted by: DS | April 24, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Why are you (you know who you are)holding Obama accountable for Rev. wright’s words but won’t Hillary accountable for her own words…her Bosnia lies, her words, her missrepresentations of NAFTA and the hospital story, her words, China and NAFTa her deeds, whitewater, her actions, failed healthcare her actions or lack thereof . be honest with yourselves and share what issues of substance allow you to vote for Clinton over Obama, be honest…
Posted by: ObamaforPresident | Apr 24, 2008 3:23:40 PM
1)Bosnia…She admitted she was wrong..what do you want to do, kill her? Show me a perfect candidate that hasn’t mispoken; Does that mean she’s hiding a 20 year relationship that’s un-American?
2)The HOSPITAL story was true, but you didnt’ know that, did you? She was relating a story told by a policeman..The media got it wrong; there were TWO HOSPITALS involved, not just the one that came out to say it didn’t refuse service.
3)WHITEWATER?!? OH MY GOD, are you kidding? So are you telling me that the millions of dollars spent investigating it by the Republicans and taxpayers, and which turned up NOTHING, missed something?
I bet you don’t even know what WHITEWATER is, do you?
You throw out a few words, and don’t even know what you’re talkign about.
No wonder there are people stupid enough to vote for GWB….The same is true for some on the liberal side too.
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Bill Moyers, lifetime journalist, would likely hear the phrase “sound byte” hundreds of times, but in the twilight of his days still can’t spell it, and neither can any of his minions that read his agenda-pieces before publication.
“Sound Bite”?
Posted by: Dave Boston North | April 24, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Bottom line- if Obama was standing by himself, dressed as does, on a corner in New York city, he still wouldn’t get a cab to stop. That’s the damning of America, not the words of a community leader.
Posted by: oblio62 | April 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
If 20 years of Wright’s preaching filled Obama with Audacity, what else did it fill him with?
Posted by: Dyersburg | April 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
When are you folks who are so up in arms about the wright sermons and choosing to blame obama for them going to finally admit that you’re just using it as an excuse not to vote for someone who you never felt comfortable with in the first place, but didn’t have a good excuse not to be. hillary and mccain both of equally bad moments in their history’s, in their spiritual relationships, etc. deciding to focus on this one is rooted in your dislike for obama… it’s not because this is any more egregious than what either of the other two have been involved in. just admit that already, please!
Posted by: z | April 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
I think this man is right. Still racism is alive and well in this country.
However, people go to church to learn about god and not politics…I disagree with many of the political views held by my pastor
Posted by: kandice | April 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
It is not about the race. It is about the character and judgement of a person who is running for the most powerful job in the world. And it is right of the Amercans to know every bit about Obama’s life, about the company he keeps, about his friends, about his mentor’s teachings that would be influencial when he makes decisions for us.
Posted by: chiamn | April 24, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Posted by: DS | Apr 24, 2008 3:27:12 PM
Where is that quote from, and who reported it?
Because, um, the vince foster lie is still being told as truth.
you might want to check out Snopes.com once in awhile.
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
For all of the people that don’t think it is legitimate to question the people Obama associates himself with, including his spiritual mentor I say…
We need to know every aspects of all of these candidates lives’ as they are vying for the highest office in the most powerful nation in the world. To not do so would be a disservice not only to America, but also the world.
Posted by: Andrea | April 24, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Destardi – Hillary misspoke and apologized for that in public. Obama though will not leave the church nor his pastor.. even after knowing how racially biased the church is.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Recent weeks have revealed that Obama is a divider. In order to save himself from the pastor controversy he tried to DIVIDE us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is trying to DIVIDE us on ‘economic inequalities’.
Posted by: Chiman | April 24, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
I think this man is right. Still racism is alive and well in this country.
However, people go to church to learn about god and not politics…I disagree with many of the political views held by my pastor
Posted by: kandice | Apr 24, 2008 3:28:59 PM
It’s not political views, it’s social views.
AIDS was not created by the US government as Wright says.
Misinformation has NO PLACE anywhere in society, and especially not a place that people go for healing, and guidance.
Conspiracy theorists as Pastors?
AHAHAAH
Posted by: Destardi | April 24, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Obama is “running away and hiding” from any controversies since the debate on April 16th. Does he think that Rev. Wright making the interview rounds will make his problem “go away” and voters will have new found respect for him? Rev. Wright and Farrakhan are close friends, Wright even uses quotes from Nation of Islam and Malcom X in his sermons, just like Obama uses Nation of Islam quotes and Malcom X quotes in his speeches. We are being hoodwinked and bamboozled by Obama the politician, to set his Hamas promoting agenda, which is very frightening. To the poster talking about Bill Clinton and the Weather Underground pardons, those two people each served 16 years of their sentences, and had minimal involvement, unlike Ayers and Dohrn, the ringleaders who escaped serious prosecution and jail time because of legal technicalities and having very rich parents.
Posted by: frisco girl | April 24, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
“It is kind of funny that ABC is the only one making this a story again.”
It’s occasioned by tomorrow’s Bill Moyers Journal interview (on PBS tomorrow). It’s on other media, too — including msnbc.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 24, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
To Dano…
It could be because people like Wright are preaching race devisions.
Posted by: Andrea | April 24, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
The Clintons will do what they did in the past. Play dirty politics and sell our jobs to the highest bidders. Is this what’s being done in the present and done in the past??
Obama offers us a true change that the Clintons could never dream of. Integrity!!
Posted by: savoymt | April 24, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Now what does Obama have to prove that he is patriotic, that he loves this country other than a blabber mouth ???? And he spoke of change. Change what?? How?? Judge a guy not base on his words, but on his actions. He does not wear the pin, did not put his hand up when singing the National Anthem. Associate with Razko, Wright, … Farrakhan, and also HAMAS endorsed him. Is that patriotic?? loves this country ?? For him to be US Pres. Common, we don’t have any body better than that? Then, it is time for the USA to be in trouble.
Posted by: Dave | April 24, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
FYI – Some more snippets from Rev Wright’s
“Confusing God and Government” (Yes the very speech of which you speak):
“War does not make for peace. War only makes for escalating violence and a mindset to pay the enemy back by any means neccessary”…”Y’all looking to the government for what only God can give. A lot of people confuse God with their government.”… “Where governments fail,God never fails” This speech was given in 2003 and with it Rev Wright was criticizing the Bush administration for using Godly language to justify the war in Iraq. President Bush is quoted as saying in 2002′I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, “George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.” And I did, and then God would tell me, “George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …” And I did. And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, “Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.” And by God I’m gonna do it.’
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Man…the news media LOVES this…all this racism, hatred and blaming….WOW, it must be a slow news day…
Posted by: cindyct | April 24, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Boy, oh boy! Hiring someone for the job of POTUS is difficult. It appears the job is all about perception, not policy. The Presidency is a job, a job. Vote for a candidate best for the job. This fake moral outrage is sickening. Trinity United cannot stop crime in the black community much less hurt or harm white people. Mr. Obama is an adult man, not a child. A person’s church is not some secret society (Skull and Bones???). It is not a political organization. It is maintain in a marginalized black community, in Chicago land, USA. Address the ills, hopes and joys of that community. The beauty of our country is supposed to be our ability to express free thoughts. Rev. Wright, another adult man, did that. If this is not politically motivated, why now? These are old sermons. If they were an issue for our fragile national psyche, why weren’t they released in real time? Why weren’t they used during Senator Obama’s 2004, Senate campaign? When the Republicans carpet bagged, Alan Keyes to Illinois. Obama maybe portrayed as liberal, but this idea that he is out of the mainstream is ridiculous. He is not a revolutionary. Rev. Wright is not a revolutionary. They both stand in the tradition of our nation. Unless, you all are saying that the African American experience is not American? It is funny how Obama has gone from being not black enough (the media), to the black candidate (Bill Clinton), to the second coming of Nat Turner (Jon Stewart). Wow!
Posted by: Mahluli | April 24, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
LA in Indiana: Were you around in the decade called the ’90s? Bill and Hillary Clinton lied their way into the White House starting with Gennifer Flowers. The media fronted for them all the way because he was their “boy”. This time around, knowing that Hillary is hated by nearly 1/2 of all Americans, the media latched onto Barack as their favorite, thinking they could front for him and hide his negatives until after the votes were counted. Unfortunately for Barack and the MSM it hasn’t worked out as planned. It’s not that many Americans even like Hillary, who seems to be capable of just about anything to get elected, but it’s obvious turning over the presidency to wet-behind-the-ears Obama would be a disaster.
Posted by: petee | April 24, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Obama said “I only knew Resko for 5 hours”, as you know, it was 17 years and thousands of dollars and a long association including the purchase of his house and near-by land. Don’t forget the many fund raisers for Obama, over the years, by Resko. Obama, lied many times about the amount of contributions to his political fund, by Resko. The Bosnia story seems very trivial in comparison to Obama series of “big” lies.
Posted by: cindy in Jacksonville | April 24, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Oops, typo Bush’s speech was given in 2003 not 2002
FYI – Some more snippets from Rev Wright’s
“Confusing God and Government” (Yes the very speech of which you speak):
“War does not make for peace. War only makes for escalating violence and a mindset to pay the enemy back by any means neccessary”…”Y’all looking to the government for what only God can give. A lot of people confuse God with their government.”… “Where governments fail,God never fails” This speech was given in 2003 and with it Rev Wright was criticizing the Bush administration for using Godly language to justify the war in Iraq. President Bush is quoted as saying in 2002′I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, “George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.” And I did, and then God would tell me, “George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …” And I did. And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, “Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.” And by God I’m gonna do it.’
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
N’Obama: I am sure you have listened to Rev. Wright’s sermons in their entirety, right? No intelligent person would render an opinion without digesting the entire sermon and digesting its complete context….right?…right?
Posted by: dano | April 24, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
are you kidding me? hearing the sermon doesnt make me feel any less that this man is a racist and hates whites.
Posted by: ryan | April 24, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Destardi, how do we know AIDS was not created by our Government?
Dr Strecker says otherwise. It was his research that determined it was a strong possibility.
I find it interesting no one is discussing this. But I guess its just easier to beat up on Wright and Obama.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Now please do not blame this on Clintons. As an grown up ‘adult’ let Obama accept some responsibilities of his mistakes, misjudgements and misspeaks.
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
this story is the story. it’s not that he was interviewed it is that abc focuses on 2 degrees out from the candidates psyche but with nothing new.
The story becomes the story because you are making it not just a story but ABC’s lead story. A clear case of people in the network not trying to be level again but but insighting something for drama. That is not what news is supposed to do.
Go look up what Hagee said today (or yesterday) and tell me why that is not more newsworthy than this.
Why is you are covering stories that effect the country the most…why has George S. not followed upsince the debate asking Hillary Clinton about this umbrella and if it is on America’s dime that we are starting to cover these nations she is offering “protection” to…offering “massive retaliation” too… without discussion of “appropriateness” of level…and taking into consideration other countries abilities to protect these countries and relationships with Russia and China in all of this…or the Nuclear Arms stance…she is using against iran and how she sees that working…
or the bigger fact that everyone keeps saying her baggage has been vetted when George S knows better than anyone that is not true…and that the American population is making decision on the basis that the Clinton scandals are “monica and that thing they call Whitewater”.
If you are going to vet these candidates and ask questions of their relationships there are tons of Clinton relationships that Hillary has never answered about …ever…never mind in the light of this presidential election.
Posted by: dl | April 24, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
A few points. I am sure Trinity church advances many worthy programs. However, in those damaging ‘snippets’ one got the impression his parishoners / or at least those that were on camera – were standing up and praising the Reverend as he built up a head of (hateful) steam. People were standing up – offering ‘hosannas / and encouraging the Reverend. I thought a few congregants were so positively transported by his learned discourse – they approached the Pulpit/stage to offer their support by touching the shoes or pantsleg of Rev. Wright. Anyway, he was not preaching against the grain of those we saw on those clips. Lucky for Senator Obama, he was not there that day. Certainly gives the Senator a hill to climb – now that his (retired) Pastor wants to rehash the old snippets.
Posted by: Barry Levy | April 24, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
He went on the most liberal program to avoid tough questions.
Ask him if he “really” believes that whites are responsible for giving guns and AIDS to blacks!!!! And don’t let him spin the answer.
Posted by: Kevin | April 24, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
The rev is correct that before i heard the whoel sermon i was angry. in an email from a friend I was given a link to the entire speeches. After listening to the ENTIRE sermons, he was right, they were not only reasonable, they were good, downright good. He doesn’t need to ‘unsay’ what he said, you need to listen to the WHOLE sermon. When he said American will be damned, yeah, we will, as he then continued to say “IF SHE DOESN”T TREAT HER PEOPLE…” When you cut him off midsentence, yeah, ti sounds really bad. Let the man finish his thought. And i agree with him that whomever cut the clip like that DID hear the whole sentence, but it wasn’t so inflamatory then so instead of letting you hear something that sounded reasonable and actually very Christian, they cut it off at teh knees and only let you hear him talk about what the wrath of God would be not about why God would would be angry at us and what God expects fo us to do to be goodpeople. ANYONE who has not heard the ENTIRE sermons should not complain one word about him until you actually KNOW what you’re complaining about. you’ll be surprised. Google “Rev WRIGHT Fox Lies” to get clips of the whole sermon.
Posted by: jessy | April 24, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
To Destardi
That is all you can talk about is Hillary lying. Well you show me a politician that does not ever lie and I will show you a dead Politician. They have ALL LIED, Yes Obama has lied many times. If we need to vote for a politician that has never lied than we have no one in 2008 to vote for. I really do not care that they lie or stretch the truth as long as they are experienced and tough. Willing to fight and Obama is NOT that person at least not right not. Maybe in a few years!
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
True Truth,
You left out my last paragraph. How do you see an ad of Hillary Clinton with Bin Laden playing against Mcain–partisanship aside?
What credibility will Clinton have in a “commander in chief” debate against Mcain?
One was a fight pilot, the other was baking cookies in the White House. And to me that settles the debate.
I think the fact that she won with such an ad in PA says something about those folks. Maybe after all, Obama was not wrong. They “cling to their guns”; in other words, what they know best even if for the worse.
Posted by: Lance D. | April 24, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
He said there is nothing wromg with his sermon.
It is wrong when he gave those hatred sermons to young kids.
It will builds hatred in their minds and give wrong perception to their country.
That’s make them hate white people when they grow up.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 24, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
and calling obama or even wright a racist is completely misguided and entirely the result of your own pre-existing resentments and assumptions. obama is very clearly not a racist… and wright railed against the government for it’s failure to help blacks… he never railed against white americans in general. you’re all just reading it/hearing it the way that suits what you already decided to believe, but had (and still have) no basis to believe… stop fearing the black man! (and no, i’m not calling you a racist… because just like obama said in philly, i don’t think you aren’t justified for feeling the way you do… but i do think it’s in the country’s best interest if we all start talking about it and get over it, black and white… and every other race for that matter)
Posted by: z | April 24, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Unfortunately,most blacks are as prejudiced as many whites. The overwhelming vote for Obama in South Carolina ,philadelphia and other places by the black population clearly demonstrates their own prejudice. In reality,for their own benefit,Senator Clinton would be a better choice for their interests than socialist Obama.
Black people have improved their position in society under President Clinton and Lyndon Johnson and are making numerous strides and continue to do so under people who care for their needs with realistic programs in matters that concern all of us. Obama’s economic programs and solutions for the best for blacks and whites is so far off mark that people will suffer financial difficulties under his woeful leadership.
Posted by: doriso3 | April 24, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
The media are very clever: Throughout this entire controversy, the focus has been on whether Rev. Wright should have said this and whether that has anything to do with Obama. But no one has stopped to ask whether there is any basis for what Wright said. That would be the interesting thing to debate, and it just might require some thought and introspection about America and its complex role in the world for good or ill. But just as when Chavez made his comments at the United Nations, the media has again shifted the focus from the message to the messenger.
“Divide and conquer”—the power structure’s mantra. And Americans keep falling for it, again and again.
Posted by: wil500son | April 24, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
“Judge not lest ye be judged”
Posted by: Max | April 24, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Maybe Wright did ruin it for Obama. It really doesn’t help him to belong to that evil, activist church…
Furthermore, those that question his background are quickly labeled racist.
I’m tired of hearing about race. Can we get back to the issues and solutions?
If these stupid polititians don’t get it together we’re all going down.
Posted by: MJ | April 24, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
His sermon is wrong. How about young african Americans listen his sermon?
Posted by: indo45 | April 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
N’Obama: You never answered the question: Did you listen to Rev. Wright’s sermons in their entirety?
Posted by: dano | April 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
N’obama, you have no clue as to what you’re talking about.
He didn’t vote present on ‘hundreds’ of bills.
It was 130 out of 4,000.
The level of knowledge and misinformation is just sinful.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
How is Mr Wright a racist? I love how everyone is calling him a racist but based on what? Because he said that blacks werent treated fairly in a rather blunt way? Because he feels that a lot of our problems stem from the alliances with certain countries? Please explain how he is racist. I am a white athiest and I agree with what the pastor said. WE GOT HIT ON 9/11 BECAUSE OF OUR FAILED FOREIGN POLICIES. PURE AND SIMPLE. SAY WHATEVER YOU WILL BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH. WE, THE UNITED STATES, ACT AS IF WE OWN THE WORLD. WE DONT. YOU CANT BLAME SOMEBODY FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH. DID MR WRIGHT LIE IN HIS SERMON? NO. DO A FAVOR TO YOURSELF AND FIND OUT THE REAL REASONS SOMEBODY WOULD MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT MR WRIGHT DID AND YOU MIGHT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF VIEW HE WAS COMING FROM. YOU SHOULD RESPECT OBAMA FOR LOOKING AT PROBLEMS CLOSE UP AND HAVING INPUT FROM FRUSTRATED PARTIES. NO RESOLUTION CAN COME FROM TAKING ONE SIDE. THERE IS ALWAYS 2 TO EVERY STORY.
Posted by: Patrick | April 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Yes, words matter. Isn’t it amazing how many words Obama says that he doesn’t want people to think matter?
“typical white person”
“cling to guns….”
More is coming. Don’t be fooled!
Posted by: Helen | April 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Jesus himself said “It is what comes out of the mouth of a man that defiles him..”
Jesus laid the judgement down and Mr. Wright stepped right into it….
Posted by: ztormtra | April 24, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
How ’bout maintaining a relationship with a man who was fully impeached as president, anyone remember that little infraction? What does it say about a womans’ judgement if she’s willing to put up with that kind of behavior for years? ‘Tells me she’s more blind ambition than principled advocate.
Posted by: oblio62 | April 24, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Rick…..thanks for the web sites to check out. Very scary…
Posted by: Barb | April 24, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
I am an Indiana Voter who will be voting for Obama in our primary, along with many, many others.
How can Americans have such short memories about the Clintons?? I went through the impeachment, Rose Law firm trial, death of Webb Hubbel – so many times they’ve had to be supeaoned or litigated with just to get the truth. Remember where the “missing” Rose Law firms papers were that the Clinton’s “couldn’t find”? Oh ya – they were in a closet at the presidential residence. If Americans have seen the way they operate to the exent that their years in politics show – they deserve what the get. Clinton is not a “change” for America. Obama is.
Posted by: Indiana voter | April 24, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
n’obama, on the clips that you have seen….did you see any children?
just curious.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus,” Obama told ABC News in a story dated April 11, 2007, “but I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude.”
Posted by: Dyersburg | April 24, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Indiana voter – Good luck to you. There will be millions of us who will not vote for him after knowing him eventhough only little bit.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.
Posted by: Dyersburg | April 24, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
@Audrey,
That’s your choice if you want to stay with this church and also Hillary’s choice if she dismiss this kind of church.
It’s her choice also to stay married with her husband.
Don’t judge the wife if the husband has affair .
How about the 3rd person itself, not guilty?
Posted by: crisis08 | April 24, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Save America, close Trinity!
List of crimes:
1. Lied us into a war.
2. Devalued the greenback.
3. Foreclosed on your home.
4. Outsourced jobs.
5. Etc….
Posted by: Mahluli | April 24, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I wanna hear from all your neocons on here — did you agree when Falwell and Robertson said God did 9/11 to punish us for gay rights, etc.? If so, then what’s the difference – why do you condemn Wright (and Obama) when you applauded Falwell/Robertson — and voted for their candidate (Bush, twice)?
Posted by: Paul | April 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Obama, stop blaming everything negative on everybody else. You are not perfect so stop trying to project that image. You are beginning to resemble George W. Bush and you have acquired his personality.
Posted by: Marie | April 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
It’s interesting that there are many inter-racial, multi-cultural churches in Chicago preaching a positive, uplifting message for ALL people but Obama chose to stick with this church for 20 years. Being a member there helped him become a state senator ( having a predominantly black constituency in the district) if the man had a lick of sense, and really wanted to become president, he should have ditched Rev. “Black Power” long ago. It just shows Barack lacks wisdom and is too isolated from the reality of average Americans. I believe America would love to have a mixed-race or even a black president – but he must be a president of all the people. Meaning he can’t have as his spiritual mentor someone like “Rev.” Wright. Barack, you need to come to terms with your “white half” and stop denying it and putting it down. Not just for your political future, but for your own personal good.
Posted by: petee | April 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Those of you who are spewing hatred for Dr. Wright and Obama display an amazing level of both arrogance and ignorance. You hear three sentences from a man and you think you know all there is to know about him, and everyone who knows him?
You’d better pray that no one ever treats you as unfairly as you are treating these two men. Shame on you.
Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | April 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
here’s another point that I think is worst than his words. It’s the whole membership jumping up and cheering every time he made these statements.
Posted by: roncraw | April 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Calli, I disagree with you,Kenya is not a muslim country, there is no muslim country in Subsaharan Africa,none, all of these countries are secular and people are living between 3 major religions: Christianity, Islam, and tradional African believes. You hate Obama, but please accept that he is a visionary leader and a strong manager, he is a strategist who has won without whinning and without crying foul. Geevil, you hate Obama, but remember that Rev Wright is not on the ballot for the presidency, his role is clear, he is a pastor. Thinking that what Wright says is what Obama thinks or vice versa is completly wrong. Obama is a great leader and a winner, a great politician of our times. Come June 04, 2008, be ready to support him as the nominee and fight for him to beat McCain as a drum come November 2008. Yes we can. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | April 24, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
If we are judging Obama by everyone he’s ever known, let’s put a list together of who the Clintons know. Wait – didn’t they make $800000 giving speeches in support of NAFTA? Didn’t their guy go to Columbia to help them also have the benefit of NAFTA? Give me a while and I’ll give you a list (I’m sure Obama is working on this) of the people that associate, donate to, benefit from – speaking of that. Where’s the Clinton Library donor list and their current year taxes?? Come on people – this is their M. O.
Whatever Rev. Wright said – we have freedom of speech in America. I don’t like what he said either, but in a 5 second clip where’s the context? Look what words have come from the Clintons!!
Posted by: Indiana voter | April 24, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The Democrats should draft Ron Paul for a fresh dose of integrity!
Posted by: Dyersburg | April 24, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
What Mr. Wright actually says here is the Mr. Obama agrees with him on his hate sermons but had to reject them as a “politician” that is he had to play cover up to make sure people hear what they would like to hear. And Obama is a unifier, a candidate of change and post-partisan – in what way?
Obama is a divider as in order to save himself from the pastor controversy he tried to DIVIDE us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is trying to DIVIDE us on ‘economic inequalities’.
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
So we’ve got President Johnson’s former flack interviewing a black liberal. Now that’s going to be a tough interview, huh? Really going to put his feet to the fire, eh?
Posted by: Debra Congram | April 24, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Lance D,
Hillary and McCain have different strength and experiences fom different area so they will have different debates,
However, majority people agreed that Obama is the one with the least stength and experiences on all aspects…so Obama can’t win either issue…
Just simple as it…
Posted by: True Truth | April 24, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
To oblio62
You can not defend wright’s actions or obama going to that church for 20 years so you attack Bill Clinton. You are so SAD! Clinton’s affair was personal between him and his family and NO ONE ELSE. It was the media that made it everyones business. Wright’s comments, his hate for whites and America is NOT a personal issue, he and he along made it public by saying what he said to America. They made DVD of his sermons and sold them to anyone who wanted to buy them.
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Obama might be a nice person, but we do not know him. Whatever we know is not good. So trusting our lives and country on someone whom we do not know is a big mistake. We have seen this with Bush, even though we knew more about him than Obama.
We know the Clintons. No one is perfect, but we know during the time of Clintons the country enjoyed good time and every country in the world respected us.
So it is for all of us to choose during this crucial time. Do you want someone whom we know or someone whom we do not know much about?
Make a smart choice .. and I hope it is not Obama.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I am so tired of everyone playing the race card in the Obama campaign. White voters are not voting for him because they are racists is the war cry of his supporters. What about the overwhelming support of black voters for Obama that is disproportional. That is just black pride I assume and when whitey does the same thing it is racist. Give it a rest. You can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: Leslie | April 24, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
This is confusing. How come frredom of speech allows Mr. Wright to make racist and ant-American comments? How come Obama call his white grand mother ‘typcial white person’ and get away with it? What would happen if Hillary or Mccain call Obama a typical black person? Wouldn’t their career be over?
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Mahluli – You can go to Zimbabwe and experience it right now.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Why hasn’t anyone responded to what Condileeza Rice said. Black people loved and respected America, when America didn’t repect black people.
Posted by: Atlanta | April 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
To Indiana voter
You can not defend obama so you attack the Clintons. Typical obama supporter! Keep drinking that obama kool-aid.
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Which poison do you prefer? Hillary – the “no scruples” candidate who will do anything to get elected – or Obama – the man who wants to “change the world” but has no evidence that he’s ever changed anyone or anything in his life. Great choice!!
Posted by: petee | April 24, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Senator Obama has caused more harm to the Democratic Party than any other politician in history and caused a larger rift between Blacks and Whites than before. He sat in a church for 20 years listening and believing the teaching of the Black Liberation Theology Church and is now carrying these teachings forward into his political policies. His close association with criminals and terorists show his true colors, yet he does not apologize for them. He would not be in politics today if it were not for these type of people. Voters must not trust this Marxist to lead our country.
Hate and racism are not “Things of God” as stated by Rev. Wright.
Posted by: Mary | April 24, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Suddenly He showed up and talked. That’s because Rep in NC will release his tape on monday.
This has nothing to do with Hillary.
Please don’t jump to conclusion, read the news first.
That’s people call it HATRED.
Posted by: crisis08 | April 24, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Oh sorry Atlanta, must have hit a nerve. Truth hurts dont it.
Posted by: jimt | April 24, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
It’s apparent none of you Americans agree on anything. You all sound like versions of Mr. Wright. Black, White, Grizzle or Gray if we can’t live together whoever wins, we lose.
Posted by: Ele | April 24, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
To Goldiemae
So that is one mans opinion and your point is ?
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Personally I wasn’t as offended by Pastor Wright’s sermon sound bytes in part because it wasn’t anything I really hadn’t heard before from the far left. What strikes me about this piece though is Wright’s response when being asked about how he felt when he was criticized by Obama. Pastor Wright said
“He says what he has to say as a politician” and “He does what politicians do”. No, tell me this is not so. Obama just a regular run of the mill politician who plays the same old games all politicians play? His supporters keep citing Obama’s honesty as what differentiate’s him from other candidates and I just feel like saying
“Grow up”. When Obama stands on a podium and says “I’m a politician and you cannot expect honesty from me or any other politician for that matter”
rather than his ” Trust me, I’ll always be straight or honest with you”- then I’ll believe he’s the real thing and he has the potential for representing new politics. As is, he’s just the same old, same old.
Posted by: alpaig | April 24, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Unjust and unfair? Puleeze.
These sermons were being sold as Rev. Wright’s greatest hits as a collection of CD’s on the church’s website!
Wackadoodle is appropriate for anyone who has the audacity to say that the U.S. started HIV to infect AA’s.
You call that being a pastor? Keep working on that sound byte.
No matter how much “context” anyone tries to attach, there’s no justification for this kind of misuse of the pulpit.
Posted by: sherr | April 24, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
He is a bigot, a racist and anti-American.
He has been preaching that stuff for years.
God Damn America is plain terms, should never be used by any American.
His comments on Hillary, Natalee Holloway, and other remarks were direct and obscene and vulgar.
His anti-Israel stance
He more of a religious militant than a Christian pastor.
As usual as he taught Obama so well, Blame everyone else for everything.
Cry woe is me, and get the pity effect.
Sorry, He is a Grown man, A Pastor, a leader and a war veteran, He Knows better and has for some time. No excuses accepted.
Everyone deserves an Apology from him instead.
God Bless America
Posted by: seah | April 24, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
American need to read the following comment, circles it, underline it and then frame it. The composer is right on the button. Americans have become over baked morons and nincompoops with the designation summa cum mania. For you American idiots to listen to nit-witted bombastics such as Sean Hannaty , Rush Limbo and the sect of other low life racists and write idiotic comments about which the genius Rev. Wright presented to his church defy any form of normal reason and common sense. A word to the wise” Next time you read your Bible try to compare the war criminal Joshua to your white friends and the fool Pastor Hagee.Continue to act stupid and let your racists newsmonger lead you all over the highest precipice in America. Obama the wise is here to save your miserable souls from the wrath and carnage to come, “Hear ye him”. He is 150% smarter than you fools for it is written “the intelligence of most American is extremely limited. What The wiseman, Rev. Wright said was not meant to be understood by you stupid minions. Just as what Obama said about “bitter” is not for you bigots to comprehend. Now re-read what this astute person wrote and try to be enlightened your primitive dolts.
Man you people are friggin idiots. They focus on Rev Wright’s clips because they can’t find anything substantive to actually complain about with Obama himself and his actual plans and policies to change our country.
Wright’s not running for president, you morons.
Go back to voting for American Idol or something you might know something about.
By the way, McCain just got an endorsement from Rev Hagee, a complete nut-case. It’s a non-issue. Why aren’t we hearing Hagee’s clips over and over?
Those of you voting for McCain if Obama wins, enjoy basically 4 more years of Bush
Posted by: Roland Grant | April 24, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
How great. Ungrateful, hatemongering, Jeremiah Wright coming back to the spotlight. Can’t be good for Obama. I’m sure Barackula would love to send him to Lower Sambutha, like he did with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (Google TV Funhouse Obama files).
Love it.
Posted by: balackula | April 24, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
I find it very disturbing that in this race for the White House religion has become the main factor! WHen does the persecution ends? Or do we become like the third word countries that are presently killing those that oppose certain religions…Interestingly the Clintons who are the frontrunners in this persecution of Obama and his pastor, invited Rev. Wright to the White House to pray for her husband when he abused the santity of his marriage. They claim to be such great moral agents yet Bill was having sex on the job ….possible while deciding important matters of State. JESUS would have called the ‘HYPOCRITES’!!!!
Posted by: D.Morgan | April 24, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Get us out of this car that has goit us headed for national destruction that the Clintons and the Bush’s and the resto f the old country club politician millionaires use to play “life.”
they are like a bunch of old Roman rulers who don’t care if the car is made of people and they will be fine if it is driven over the cliff…they still get to brag that they were President and have people drive them everywhere.
Let’s stop this car before they drive us over the cliff.
The system is broke… the clintons are part of the reason it is broke. Maybe not as much as GW but a close second…
get them out of power. NOW. before she stupidly starts another arms race misguidedly thinking she is like reagan and russia… russia had tons of warheads they could not keep up with Iran doesn’t have any)
the quickest way to encourage a non nuclear country to get nuclear is to threaten to obliterate them with that same nuclear…
ask kimjong il …
this woman does not realize that her words and ideas when she is “playing military” and being the hawk that sheis in everything she does… will destroy us…
we are not talking hawk like Mccain…we are talking hawk like Hillary Clinton…stop the madness…don’t go over this cliff…
She is 60 she wants to be president and they have never put the country in front of anything they ever wanted, the Clintons. In her mind this is either hers or it is hers in 2012.
all the while never apologizing for removing congressional oversight to the president’s military actions… offering any nation in the middle east “protection” with “Massive retaliation” and “obliteration” without consequence of the financial, structural, constitutional, foreign relations effects on our allies and the rest, effects on this imperialistic image that we are trying to correct and most of all inflaming and giving an excuse to a rogue nation to be able to use for nuclear protection.
and now it makes sense why she didn’t apologize for giving the presidency carte blanche… she thinks it should have that.
This is all very very bad.
Posted by: dl | April 24, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
The frequent usages of words like liberal, left-wing, conservative, right-wing, Marxist, racist, sexist, and race indicate quite clearly that there is a huge reasoning problem in America. It was born in schools that train students on a learn to earn rather than a learn to learn principle. The point is those words have dozens of definitions that are never clarified in these posts and elsewhere, and so the conversations are like passing ships in the night. Just human bengs abusing language and increasing misunderstandings. Later, they will reach for guns.
Posted by: voltear7 | April 24, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
You can’t make a list of everyone that’s been associated with the Clinton’s because majority of them are dead…. Go figure!
Posted by: Dinero80 | April 24, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Well all I have to say to all of these comments is that WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN FOR ANOTHER FLEECING!!!!!!!!!See you people are being fooled again. Bush and Cheney are getting rich from this War. We are paying for it. 12 billion a month!!!!!! I will say it again 12 billion a month. Hillary can’t get anything done at all cause she can’t work across the lines. The entire legislation has to be changed to get anything done with her. Republicans can’t stand her.If they get into the White House they are going to rack up. That’s how you get the money through programs for the poor, only the poor get so much they get theirs from the TOP. They are already multimillionares . Obama is just a millionare. He would not do the same cause he’s going to be watch; cause he is BLACK. Now white people have already admitted they were afraid to vote a black person cause they are afraid what was done to the black man will be done to them. See how AMERICA THINKS. BLACK ARE NOT TRYING TO ENSLAVE ANYONE. BLACK PEOPLE ARE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE AND SO IS REV. WRIGHT. The seed has been planted and you are taking the bait. Remember that black people have always kept on going and will do that this time too. It’s white people that will suffer cause of TORNADOES, FLOODS, HURRICANES AND ETC. DON’T YOU SEE WHATS GOING ON?
They are loosing and don’t care why, just keep the black man out. The media has a double standard. It’s ok to have someone endorse you if they are hate mongers.(McCain) Rev Hagee, Pat Buchannan, Rev Rod Parsley,Senator Robert Byrd, Trent Lott and some others you know who they are. That’s ok, they spew hate all the time. Nothing is never said. Bill Bennett said that all black babies should be aborted. No one said a thing. Of course none of this has anything to do with Obama. I just wanted to let you know other people spew the same kinda of hate and we just listen and don’t say a word.Four more years of bush policies and going down the drain for AMERICA. I can see clearly now the rain has gone and AMERICA IS STILL RACIST TO THE CORE. HOW BLIND AMERICA. JUST HOW BLIND AMERICA WILL YOU BE???????
Posted by: NARDYNE CANTRELL | April 24, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
in all this madness, no intelligent american is willing to question how our failed middle east policies of the last 40 years caused 9/11
you silly people don’t question, you just follow! SHEEP!
Posted by: R.C. | April 24, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
in all this madness, no intelligent american is willing to question how our failed middle east policies of the last 40 years caused 9/11
you silly people don’t question, you just follow! SHEEP!
Posted by: R.C. | April 24, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
People please… I cant believe the ignorant comments displayed. Obama is the front runner for this reason. America is tired of foolish, petty, ignorant politics. Clinton, Mccain, Bush have demonstrated this for decades. If YOU choose to belittle his appeal by his “associates” comments and other minor issues, YOU will be the ignorant loser because AMERICA is not that stupid to fall for it. Good Luck.
Posted by: jay | April 24, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
in all this madness, no intelligent american is willing to question how our failed middle east policies of the last 40 years caused 9/11
you silly people don’t question, you just follow! SHEEP!
Posted by: R.C. | April 24, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I don’t read any defense in what Rev. Wright says. In any case he says Obama talks like a politician and say what people wants to hear and not the truth.
Posted by: Libre | April 24, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Rev Wright wants to fool Americams and looks down on them just like Barack and Michelle.
Posted by: Libre | April 24, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
To Cantrell: Most people when they hear hate being spewed, do speak up. If they are not comfortable with speaking up, they get up and leave. That’s what Obama should have done at his church 19 years and 364 days and 23 hours and 15 minutes ago.
Posted by: calli | April 24, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
DID HE ASK WHAT HE DID MEAN BY THE COMMENTS?
Posted by: CHAOS | April 24, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Operation Chaos isnt working….Obama is STILL the front runner. Sorry!!!
Posted by: not working | April 24, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Operation Chaos isnt working….Obama is STILL the front runner. Sorry!!!
Posted by: not working | April 24, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Wright said when his sound bites started to be shown he felt it was UNTRUE, well whose sound bites where they now??
Sure looked to me as if Rev Wright was saying them having a good time bobbing and shaking each time he pronounced a word or inflammatory phrase.
When he was getting all this high fives, claps and shouts did he not know this congreation was praising him?
So what is this crap that he felt it was untrue, what he was in a trance at that stage and did not know what he was saying….oh please give me a break Rev.Wright
Posted by: SJ | April 24, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
My idea of a Church is a place of worship where we are taught to follow God’s way of love, humility, mercy and forgiveness. Until I heard about this, I never realized that hate speeches are allowed in some churches. God must be really offended by this. If my priest said something that offended me I would not leave my faith, but I sure would go to another church even if I have to drive extra miles.
Posted by: geebee | April 24, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
The only people who will watch this are going to vote for Obama anyway. I for one will not vote for Obama and I have never voted anything but democrat. I will vote independent, Mccain will not be as bad as Bush.
Posted by: Ken FL | April 24, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
“In the big states that count — that we must carry to win the Electoral College — Senator Clinton is the best candidate,”
Posted by: Libre | April 24, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
NOTWORKING: You don’t know what Operation Chaos is do you?
Posted by: CHAOS | April 24, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Obama became the front runner before anyone knew all this stuff about him…..HE FLEW IN UNDER THE RADAR…..
His Charismatic Personality won alot of people over….. before he got vetted.
Any regrets now for supporting him?
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | April 24, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Now you know why Colin Powell’s wife never wanted her husband to consider entering the presidential race. I would have voted for him, but I do not feel Senator Obama is ready to face the mess our country is in and, unlike some feel in his camp, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. Stop already with the race issue and get down to who is best qualified to win in November.
Posted by: MomGrandma | April 24, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Question for the white victims.
When have black people collectively oppressed or expoited white people?
Posted by: Reuben | April 24, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Let’s just stop all this bickering and think about a better future. Let people pick their own choice for a president and start all helping to make this world a better place. If you took the energy some people are using for the negative issues, put it into positive energy we might be able to begin to start to solveour problems. Hillary or Obama for president or both and then move on to a world for everyone .
Posted by: sharris | April 24, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Rev Wright forgot to say that they know nothimg of the multimillion house he will live in with the money of his “ministries”
Posted by: Libre | April 24, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Obama might be a nice person, but we do not know him. Whatever we know is not good. So trusting our lives and country on someone whom we do not know is a big mistake. We have seen this with Bush, even though we knew more about him than Obama.
We know the Clintons. No one is perfect, but we know during the time of Clintons the country enjoyed good time and every country in the world respected us.
So it is for all of us to choose during this crucial time. Do you want someone whom we know or someone whom we do not know much about?
Make a smart choice .. and I hope it is not Obama.
Posted by: Rick | April 24, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
You people are SO EASILY DUPED!!!! of all the important issues we face today, this Iraq quagmire, our failing economy, our crumbling environmental standing, our dollar that is struggling against the peso, Our divided nation!… all this and what do you folks SQUABBLE OVER?! WAKE UP! WHO GIVES A CR&P ABOUT WHAT OBAMA’S CHURCH MINISTER THINKS OR SAYS?! What about this nation of ours? What about having someone in office with vision?! What about having someone who can turn the heat down on this boiling cauldron presented to us compliments of 7 long years of the GOP? you people better stop squabbling over petty matters and FOCUS!
Posted by: RW | April 24, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
am I the only one that thinks this is just a little strange that after a loss in PA wright finally comes out of hiding and gives an interview? Even if he gave some sermons full of hope and love there is no explanation of some things he said, at least for me, and this is just one piece of the man I will not vote for- never. I think character does matter a great deal in being President. I think patriotism plays huge part too. Our founding fathers did not think that the flag was a sign of opression, and our national anthem… And I have a big problem that while whining about a debate that asked questions, whether you like the questions or not ran to nc and twice flipped Hillary the bird, once again goes to character, if this is how he handles the interview how will he handle the job, this should be when we see his best?
Posted by: lrdash | April 24, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
It’s quite sad that such a great fuss is being aroused by the trivial thoughts of a hate-filled little man. As far as the implications for Obama, if he wants to save himself from this growing storm then he should formally rebuke his pastor, and move on with politics.
The misunderstanding and lack of trust between black and white Americans can only be remedied by open discussion. Once this has taken place, the populus needs to move on. This is one country is it not? The behaviour of over-vocalised, zealous bigots (both black and white) destroys the “U” in USA.
Posted by: Thatcher79 | April 24, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I think is important not what Obama’s minister said but that Obama sees him as his spirirual advisor and for 20 years approved what Wright said.
Posted by: Libre | April 24, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I love Obama to death and am so proud of the things he has done with his life and ewhat he plans to do as President but he really needs to rethink people he considers friends. I mean come on. This pastor should NEVER have done an interview to defend his preaching at this point in time. Not if he were a true friend. Mayflower or whatever her name is over at Huffington post decided to write an article about a private conversation where the press was not allowed and she calls herself an Obama supporter? Give me a break. With friends like this man has, he needs new friends and to tell these 2 to go get their little 15 minutes of fame somewhere else. What total salivating morons.
Posted by: Brian | April 24, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I understand that the Reverend will be on Bill Moyers show on PBS tomorrow (Fri) night.
Posted by: Mitch | April 24, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Wright is not only a racist but a COMPLETE IDIOT! Why does he not shut his mouth and let it go. There is NOTHING he can say to JUSTIFY his Racist comments and his Hate for Whites And America. I hope he does not think for a second that he is helping Obama or is it that he is trying to hurt Obama for not openly defending him. By saying that Obama only said what he said because he is a Politician and he must now talk like a Politician will NOT help Obama.
Posted by: Steve Moore | April 24, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Steve- Lest we forget, it was the congress that made it our business, and that little distraction took alot of our time and treasure. In fact it took our commander-in-chiefs’ eye off the ball so much that prosecuting the real terrorists became more difficult, in that politically charged environment. That makes it everyones’ business today.
Posted by: oblio62 | April 24, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Personally, I’m hoping that Rev. Wright has a good publicist who gets him booked on as many shows as possible between now and May 6. I’m thinking he’d be a natural for “The View.” The Colbert Report goes without saying. And maybe “Good Morning Fayetteville” or “Kokomo Today.” Keep speaking out Rev. Wright!
Posted by: Porter | April 24, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
The best way to judge a person’s character is by the people he keeps closest to him. Obama’s Pastor,mentor,friends and wife all seem to have very negative views about America. For example, Rev. WRIGHT: “God Damn America” MICHELL OBAMA: we are a Nation that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. “We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” WILLIAM AYERS ”Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at,””I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Regarding Ayers Obama stated “He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” So one would assume that Obama does exchange ideas from Ayers. The question is what ideas?
Posted by: SALLY | April 24, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I am so sick of hearing about Reverend Wright. What’s more important – what he says or what Obama says? I’m frankly amazed that he’s still in the headlines after over a month.
I don’t know why Hillary’s Bosnia comments are not getting any news anymore. She lied to the American people, not just once, but many many times. Those ‘misstatements’ reflect the person the politician that we do not need – someone who is willing to say anything to get nominated. She does not want the presidency to help America, but to fuel the Clinton ego.
Posted by: Jermaine | April 24, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
LISTEN: Obama wish he could refused this man, defused him but he cannot because Wright has too much damaging information on him. Thats it. Thats the situation. OK?
Posted by: Leanza Cornett | April 24, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Porter – Good thought ! I hope Wright gets all the interviews and media time that he wants! Bet Obama and his campaign people are sweating bullets!
Posted by: SM | April 24, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Jermaine,
If you watched the debate she apologized. That’s why it’s no longer news.
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
IF THE TRUTH HIRTs Then you need a change remember (stress can kill you )not Obama not Rev, Wright You need the change
Posted by: t.v.eddie | April 24, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Wright and Obama is a disgrace to all North Carolina’s and the entire nation.
Posted by: Alfredo | April 24, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I hope you people on here can see that the Rev Wright situation does not help thngs get better in this country.
The media is going frenzy over this stuff while real people are hurting in this country
Posted by: WhiteboyDay | April 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
I’m amazed at the hatred and out right stupidity I’m reading in a lot of these responses. Let me break it down for you: America IS what Rev. Wright represents. America IS what Senator Clinton represents. American IS what Senator Obama represents. America IS what WE represent. Bottom line, the Rev. has an opinion and he shared it. He thinks we have problems as a society and we seem to bury our heads in the sand to avoid them. I tend to agree with that logic. He thinks our country still has racially divided issues. I definitely agree with that thought (and I’m caucasian in case you were wondering). As crazy and imaginative as it sounds, I emplore everyone to listen to the speech Michael Douglas gives in the movie “American President”, when playing the role of The President. On it’s surface, his speech is dead on accurate. People have forgotten what it means to be an American. People forgot this is the land of the free. You may not agree with the context of Rev. Wright’s sermon, but to call him un-American is to not understand what it truly means to BE an American.
To quote Michael Douglas’ character “We have real problems, and we need real people to solve them.” I’m tired of the negative political adds, and I’m fed up with politicians talking about each other vs. telling me what they’re going to do to make this country, and my life, better. And I’m fed up with people THINKING they know what it means to be an American, spewing nonsense out of their mouths, ultimately confirming their own idiocy.
Wake up people. Stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution. Vote your conscious. Forget party lines, forget race, forget sex. Challenge the candidates to tell you what they’ll specifically do to make this world a better place, then cast your vote and hold them accountable.
Don’t hold Bill’s comments againt Hilliary. Don’t hold the Rev.’s comments against Obama. If Hilliary or Obama say something, THEN you can hold it against them. Don’t fall into the political hate trap. Do your homework, identify the candidate who best fits the needs for our country, and cast your vote.
Posted by: Sid | April 24, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
What Mr. Wright actually says here is the Mr. Obama agrees with him on his hate sermons but had to reject them as a “politician” that is he had to play cover up to make sure people hear what they would like to hear. And Obama is a unifier, a candidate of change and post-partisan – in what way?
Obama is a divider as in order to save himself from the pastor controversy he tried to DIVIDE us on ‘race’. Now with his ‘bitter small-townies’ controversy, he is trying to DIVIDE us on ‘economic inequalities’.
Posted by: chiman | April 24, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Hahahahahahahahaahahaahhaahahahha
You have got to believe this.
So much to say. Let us lay it out one by one
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1. Is this so called NEW politics?
No one blames you if just say it is politics.
You call it new politics? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2. Good, Bad, and Ugly
Someone tells you where treasure is.
It is fine you just take all and run away.
But instead you kill that poor person.
Wow, speechless
What a character
3. Gentleman
He is really a ‘nice gentleman’
fight hard with Woman with SKILLs
You follower should be very proud. LOL
More coming…..
Posted by: jy2008 | April 24, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I do not buy Rev. Wright’s explanation. Words do matter and some do not have to be put in full context to be offensive. I would like to know what he has to say about Trinty’s website (that is the website that was on the internet before all of this blew up). The congregration was identified as being one that was “Unashamedly Black.” I will bet a paycheck that if Rev. Wright had pulled up the website of Senator Clinton’s or Senator McCain’s church and either had identified the congregration as being “Unashamedly White” that he would have had something to say about it. However, if the media mentioned what WAS (it has now been removed) on Trinty’s website, he would have accused the media of being racist and bigoted. You know what, racism cuts both ways.
Posted by: savethemiddleclass | April 24, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
It’s times like this I remember why I have never fully embraced the democratic party and remained a independent for so long. Democrats for the most part are total idiots! Its amazing Obama’s preacher is still a issue, or flag pins. Of course I expect all this crap from the republicans.
I have been a strong Obama support from the start. Not because he is black. Not because he is young. Not because he is a good speaker. Simply because I can NOT trust Hillary. I doubt she could tell the truth if her life depended on it. Aside from a few democrats, no one likes her and she is NOT electable in a general election.
BUT I am getting so tired of all the whining from both sides of the democratic campaigns here, Obama and Clinton supporters! I am beginning to thing neither one will be electable in the general election now! Too much water under the bridge at this point, thank Hillary for that!
So it looks like now we will have to have a republican in the whitehouse for at least another 4 years! And guess what? All you cry baby democrats and Hillary supporters are to blame for that. You reap what you sow. When will you democrats learn to support your best candidate? May be in 4 more years?
Posted by: IndieVisible | April 24, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
ichabod- your nephew/brother is waiting for you at the temple…
Posted by: oblio62 | April 24, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
i heard the whole speech. they are not at all hateful in context. in fact, hearing the speech in it’s entirety changed my mind completely about this guy and about Obama…..try it… idare you to listen to this and STILL have a problem with it……i dare you…..
Google this :
“you tube rev wright fox lies speech”
and click the first one. listen to the WHOLE sermon, THEN see if yo have anything to complain about.
Posted by: jessboston | April 24, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Well, here we go with the obamamaniacs spewing once again.
To Reverend Wright: Too little, too late. Your venomous G.D. America sermon was and remains out of line. Your hip gyrations – FROM THE PULPIT of your church when talking about Bill Clinton and Monica were obscene and totally inappropriate from a church. Your bashing of Hillary Clinton from THE PULPIT of your church is unforgivable. THIS HATE CAME FROM YOU FROM YOUR CHURCH PULPIT. You then sold copies of these sermons for monetary benefit for YOUR CHURCH. Hate sold for money by your church to benefit your church and yet you get a tax exemption from the US Government? Doesn’t make much sense?
Your Rich White People comment is just too bigoted – then you buy a 2+Million dollar mansion in “a Rich White People” neighborhood? Your saving the soles of the non-religious in your neighborhood, yet the South Side of Chicago is a war zone between blacks killing blacks?
You are a first degree hypocrite that should never have been allowed to become a preacher. You are inciting racial riots in this country if the whites don’t vote for obama, which is sanctioned by obama. You take the white people as fools, bigots and racists, yet you have made this country stand on racism. Then you have the audacity to blame Bill and Hillary Clinton. What besides hate of the white person is in your closet reverend? And I won’t dignify the title of “reverend” to you any longer because you do not deserve it. Maybe you need to relocate to a country other than the USA where you can preach your vile spewing, maybe Hamas will welcome you. Don’t think any longer that you and obama can fool the white people into voting for obama. You can’t. And if you want to incite a racial riot in the event that obama is not nominated, go ahead and then you can carry the responsibility of deaths and blood on your hands. You have made yourself what you spew about from your pulpit — a hater.
Posted by: Lou | April 24, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
no hopesprings, this is the problem….
YOU don’t get it!
This is the type of distraction Obama is talking about. None of you get it because you keep getting hung up on stupid crap just like this, election cycle after election cycle after election cycle.
These non-issues then become important and make you all vote accordingly.
That is partly how we got bush, other than bill clinton not being able to keep his pants zipped.
But hey….it is so much more important that Rev Wright (not Obama mind you) cussed than it is to pay attention to trade agreements and your jobs being shipped overseas.
We keep falling into the same trap, we’ll keep getting the same type leaders. The ones using fear tactics….they’re the ones that get you every time.
lol that is why we deserve the crap we get.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
To J: You posted this:
This paragraph says it all:
“”It went down very simply,” Wright responds. “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds. I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician.”
In other words Obama lied out his a$$.
I AGREE WITH YOU….OBAMA LIED AND NOW HIS UNCLE, MENTOR, PASTOR IS TELLING THE WORLD THAT OBAMA HAS LIED…..THE MEDIA IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THIS! IT’S OVER, OBAMA, NOW YOUR PASTOR IS EVEN TURNING HIS BACK ON YOU !!!!!
Posted by: david from texas | April 24, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
I’m glad that the pastor understands politics.
He won’t feel so bad when Obama has to leave his church to save his candidacy.
Why am I not surprised that the Rev. Wright couldn’t keep his mouth shut?
Wake up Rev.! the chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: sherr | April 24, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
It is so sad to hear all of these negative comments. It is all about race. THE HATE IS REAL CLEAR in the majority of these comments. We should all be in prayer for one another and our nation in times like these. Can’t we all get along and let the best person win. We will never lead as a true nation if we continue to use the media to take down the person who they don’t want to get elected and make it real obvious the person that they do want. The commentators talk about everything but the issues that people care about (like food going sky high, gasoline, taxes and insurance costs and etc. I am a senior citizen and I was for the Clinton’s and so was my family but I can’t tell you how turned off and disappointed I am with the Clinton’s. My family and a lot of others I know will not vote in the November election. SHAME ON ABC and the (Hannity & RUSH) PROMOTERS. It is a saying of “Do Unto Others as you would have them do unto you”. Would you Like these type statements said of you? IS your side of the street clean? THINK ABOUT IT. DO YOU EVEN HAVE A CONSIENCE? THERE IS A RECKONING DAY AHEAD OF ALL OF US. REMEMBER WHAT YOU MEASURE OUT WILL ALSO BE MEASURED BACK TO YOU. I believe in remdemption. (Bill Clinton, George Bush, and any others who made mistakes) But I know there is a day of judgment and we are not the judge. God is the only judge and what will he say of us when we go before him.
Posted by: Mary | April 24, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
It was so plain what this “preacher” was saying even a child could understand
This man is a bigot a hypocrite and a bold faced llar. He’s trying to justify hhimself. What do you expect? Isn’t that what liars do? Look at “slick Willie” and Mr Obama. They do the same
thing. Wake up America! We’re all being duped. And it doesn’t matter what color you are.
Posted by: Leonard Box | April 24, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I find it interesting that there is all this attention on what a black pastor said back in 2001 about the 9/11 attacks. He was not the only pastor who had comments about this in such a manner. Let’s not forget the white pastors (Farwell and Robertson) who commented that the ACLU, feminist, gays, etc., are to blame for bringing this all on America. All these pastors are making the same exact point, God’s judgment on this nation, whether you believe in a God or not. Are we now going to start airing the comments of Jerry Farwell and Pat Robertson as examples of extremist republicans? My hope is that people would read the put all these in context (and taken with a grain of salt), but then again, history has shown that we rather be ignorant and be driven by sound bites.
Posted by: Tom | April 24, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
I find that racist like Rev. Wright are disgusting. I take strong exception to his comments about Italian Americans. He called us “garlic noses”. And his statement spanned several decades.If Mr. Obama truely repudiated these statements Why did sit and listen to them in Church for the past twenty years. Clearly Rev. Wrights statements were not taken out of contaxt either because there is not context you can put Garlic noses into.
Posted by: Tom , Largo Fl | April 24, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Same feather flocks together. They are both irresponsible and mocked the American. They are a disgrace for North Carolinians and the entire nation. Wake up North Carolinianas and Indianians. Wake up superdelegates. To add to the damage, they are aslo like Rezco and Ayers. Sajem on you.
Posted by: Alfredo | April 24, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Same feather flocks together. They are both irresponsible and mocked the American. They are a disgrace for North Carolinians and the entire nation. Wake up North Carolinianas and Indianians. Wake up superdelegates. To add to the damage, they are aslo like Rezco and Ayers. Sajem on you.
Posted by: Alfredo | April 24, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
The double-standard of some is alive and well, this guy should just fade away; he is irrevelant. As the Queen in Shakespeare’s play so aptly put it; ‘The lady doth protest too much, methinks’. When he says something racist, it’s all ‘taken out of context’, when anyone else says it; the sky is falling in, people get fired, vilified, and crucified. That double-standard will no longer be acceptable to intelligent people that don’t buy into the blatant hypocrisy.
Posted by: TheRockofAges | April 24, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
davidfromtexas,
His Rev friend should have kept his mouth shut.(On second thought, keep talking Mr. Evil). I knew it wouldn’t be too long after PA before Obama or one of his supporters would do something stupid.
It seems about every 3 weeks there is a new story about this man and the people he associates with.
I voted for Hillary in the PA primary and I am so glad that I did.
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Leave that preacher alone!!!!!
It is amazing how you people don’t seem to care how you talk about a man you don’t know…..
If you actually think this country has no wrong, then you are living in a dream world.
Posted by: tony | April 24, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Tony, the only people “dreaming” are the Obama supporters that think he will get the nomination……no, excuse me, that’s not a dream, but a NIGHTMARE!
Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 24, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Tired of hearing about Rev. Wright. But why is it we don’t want to hear the truth. A lot of this is fueled by the medium. Most of us are racist. Minorities have voted for white presidents since we first elected George Washington; didn’t have a choice. It is definitely time for a minority president. We can see from what’s going on that things are changing in this country. If Obama does win the nomination, he may very well not win the presidential election; but that’s okay; he has definitely opened doors for other political minorities. I am certain he will again run for presidency, and most likely win. We all want change. I am tired of all the old tired faces and lies. The term “politics” and “lies” go together. What’s wrong with electing a “new” face and a “new” set of lies. I’m not a republican, but thank you McCain for your excellent military service. You survived it all and became a presidential candidate. Awesome!
Posted by: Dee | April 24, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
This is not a distraction for Obama. This is who he is. Birds of a feather fly togther as another commentor said. I would not support anyone who hates people that are different. This makes Obama no different than those right wing fanatics who hate blacks or gays.
Clearly he needs to step aside or else we are looking at a republican in the white house again.
Posted by: Tom , Largo Fl | April 24, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
whoa david….what lie? what lie did Obama tell?
I can’t believe you people….hillary talks about sniper fire (a lie) and you vote for her.
What lie did Obama tell???
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Tom in Largo, whether Obama steps aside or not McCain will still be president because over half the country does not want bill nor hillary back in the white house.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | April 24, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
American’s need to wake up and smell the roses… You are know by the company you keep… And another thing alot of America’s problems are brought on by every one of us. Stop buying things you can’t afford, just cause someones willing to lend you the money…Start recycling Everything..! Stop wasting water and electricy…Stop making several trips to that can be made in one… Stop being lazy butts and start doing your part to make this a better America…!! Use your brains and your heart… If it sounds to good to be true…it usually is..!
Posted by: SillyMe | April 24, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
McCain is just playing politics. Beware of the wolf in sheep”s clothing. He is a warmonger who will use many of the same administration as Bush. McCain will do nothing to help people that are losing their homes, he will do nothing to help people who cannot afford medical care. He will however, make sure that big business gets more money to spend outside our country.
Posted by: kimberlygwade | April 24, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Clearly some of Obama supporters missed the boat. His most recent comments about bitter people who turn there anger on immagrants rather than “real issues”. Failed to recognizre that African American have suffererd many job losses as a result of illegals taking there jobs. Obama the darling of millionaire liberal could care less about anyone. In his heart he hates most white working class people and uses his own people for his on ends.
Posted by: Tom , Largo Fl | April 24, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
I have no arguement with his speech, and what he says, but it sounds like he wants entitlement, there are many white kids who wont see a golf course either, he forgets the history of this country and how it has tried to change, and his god damn america, should be god help america, he doesnt say anything about whites, just blames them for everything thats wrong, sounds racist to me, he forgets to mention, The bombing of pearl harbor, the beheading of american soliders, a country that refuse to surrender and the bombing was a necessary evil to end a war, he forgets to mention the rebuilding of europe after the war the freedom given again to europe, the rebuiding of japan, and most the civil war fought between white people to end slavery, the voting rights act, the civil rights act, yet he still damns american when he should be trying to change and help america for all people. enough said he wants entitlement because he is black, and his view can be understood, but to say it the way he did is wrong
Posted by: GerryP23 | April 24, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
david from texas:
Will you chill out bud!!!?? Texas had their turn, now the folks of NC, et al will have something to say….
And senator Obama will win NC hands down………
Just be sure you register to vote if you want to vote in November….otherwise, stand down!
Posted by: tony | April 24, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
America, lets start telling the truth.
Pennsylvania is what percent white and what percent black? The answer to this question will also answer the outcome of the Pennsylvania primary. The white people in Pennsylvania did exactly what they were expected to do. They voted for the white candidate in the race. This should be a wake up call for black Americans. Pennsylvanians did what they chastise blacks for doing; voting for race. Gov. Rendell told them that the state was not ready for a black gov. (Lynn Swann) remember? This issue no one wants to touch. It is much easier to lay blame on Obama’s inability to get blue collar votes. Most of the blue collar workers in Pennsylvania are white. It will be a good sign that race relations will get better if we are able to state the truth about the situation. We are who we are and we cannont change that. No one black or white expected Obama to win Pennsylvania. Give him credit for closing the huge gap. Even after Hillary pulled the Osama ad. If no one has the where-with-all to address that kind of politics, then race issues will continue to divide us in this 21st century and in centuries to come.
Posted by: R | April 24, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Here is why Barrack Obama had to pick the trinity church and Jeremiah Wright!
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
Posted by: Alan | April 24, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Listen to the whole sermon first, think about all the lies republicans have told us Americans these past 8 years as well as the lies they said about other presidential candidates during the past elections (i.e. Kerry). Despite the harsh words of the reverend the statements were not untrue. Our country has done incredible harm in Iraq and other places around the world. So, wake up and be objective!
Posted by: Cecilia B. | April 24, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Hagee and Wright both liars and the worst sort of hypocrites.McCain and Obama needs to dismiss these charlatans out of their lives and the campaign.Wright just moved into a multi-million dollar home in a mostly “white” suburb same “whites” he calls demons.These 2 are the “poster boy’s” for why religious fanaticism is destructive to democracy & freedom.
Posted by: Sharon White | April 24, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Clearly pandoras box has been opened and there is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. To turn a few phrases. We still have a chance to save the Democratic Party. Vote Hillary
We are just lucky this came out before the nomination is completed
Vore Hillary!!!
Posted by: Tom , Largo Fl | April 24, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Is this all Unfair??? Oh poor Obama, are we being unfair to him???? Maybe we should all just be quiet and play nice so he can go on to be president…. would that make Barry feel better?? We are so sorry to bring up your dirt. We promise to be nice if you let us play in your new America.
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Well this is true. The Clintons have bee stigmatized by Obama as “more of the same.” He has said she is into “business as usual” and he and his supporters say she has thrown the “kitchen sink” at him and have “knifed” him. They have also said she should leave the race over and over again, that she is a racist, that she is divisive, that she is a liar, that she will not end the war, that she is ambitious (all of a sudden a negative trait), and that she is cold, unsympathetic, and immoral. Yes – saying things over and over again has a political purpose: to paint someone in a negative light and destroy the good work they have done. It is very effective.
“When something is taken like a sound bite for a political purpose and put constantly over and over again, looped in the face of the public,” Wright says, “that’s not a failure to communicate. Those who are doing that are communicating exactly what they want to do, which is to paint me as some sort of fanatic or as the learned journalist from the New York Times called me, a ‘wackadoodle.’”
Posted by: tony | April 24, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I think a terrible injustice has been done to a decent and good man. He”s a former U.S. Marine who served his country honorably and has dedicated his life to helping others. We have demonized him and laughed at him based only on a spliced-together tape without context. This was not fair, and I am ashamed of us all for doing that.
Some of Reverend Wright”s sermons are on You-Tube, including the one with the clip about “chickens coming home to roost.” That particular sermon was very good; his comments about the chickens were even a quote!!
I do not think anyone should criticize Reverend Wright until you see the context in which his statements were taken, and maybe listen to some of his sermons. He is a good man. He is not running for anything. Just be fair to him. It is the Christian thing to do.
Posted by: Marilyn | April 24, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
People.. chill out. Listen to the ENTIRE Reverend Wright speech and you´ll see that 1) he was quoting, for the most part, some white guy during much of his speech that was so “inflamatory” and 2) Much of what he said was spot on and accurate. I also suggest that everyone get behind whoever is the Democratic candidate because our country will be up a creek permanently if we have McBush in office.
Posted by: George | April 24, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
It doesn’t matter if those remarks were made 5-7 years ago. He is an adult and responsibile for his actions. When he said “God damn America”, how can that be taken to mean anything else but unpatriotic and unamerican? Also, when he said that Obama answered as a politician, does that mean that he accepts that his followers will lie to get what they want? Is lieing acceptable? It’s scary to think people are actually following him. Aren’t we smarter than that?
Posted by: Angel | April 24, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
What I find most unsettling is not the Sermons given by Wright, not the Obama response, and not even so much Hillary’s exploitation of it all, these people are acting out as expected. I am mostly put off by the comments on this site: I can’t believe that people can be so narrow. Isn’t it just apparent that the Media and the Candidates manipulated anything that Wright may have said for ratings and votes? If you want to know the truth, you have to open your minds and find the information! In addition: Wright is a man who puts himself out into the public every day for the betterment of society! This country is a better place for his having been here!
Posted by: Jessica | April 24, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
George, your post deserves no response because it is patently untrue. Rev. Wright said those things, he meant those things and he stands by those things. I haven’t heard him retract them. Stop buying into the lies from BHO.COM. You listen to a hate filled preacher for twenty years and you learn something, either leave or accept, what did Obama do? I have gone to the same church for 42 years and cannot believe that anyone would stay if they disagreed with their pastor. sorry don’t buy it, never will.
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Jessica,
The betterment of society, really, REALLY? REALLY? God help us. Really?
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
LA,
You want to know what lies he has told
1. I never heard my pastor speak like that. Lie he was there he even admitted it.
2. Only did 5 hrs work for Rezko. Lie he has known Rezko for 20+ years and Rezko helped him buy his house.
3. The amount of money Rezko and assoc. contributed. It was $150,000 to beign with turns out it was $250,000.
4. He didn’t see that gun questionaiire. Lie his writing was on it.
Would you like me to go on?
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Okay, so now I’m the media; S just said
“Listen to the whole sermon. His words say something nice. your friend” Obviously, he didn’t say it just like that; I took it out of “context”.(My prerogative)
Oh and since R and T are in such close proximity to S, I’m sure they hold the same beliefs as S.
LOL
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Although I do agree that there are things said by Rev. Wright that need to be seen in the context of an entire sermon – there is no “context” to justify the claim that our government created the aids virus to destroy the black race – To wrap such an ugly lie inside the sad truth of the Tuskegee experiments to lend the claim some sort of validity is a vile thing and a grotesque disservice to his flock and to society as a whole – and serves only to breed hatred and division within a community that Rev. Wright perports to serve.
This and other outrageous comments by the Reverend call into question his basic understanding of his calling to Christ.
Furthermore, that Senator Obama would sit in those pews for 20 years and not once challenge his mentor and advisor calls into serious question his judgement and leadership skills that he and his supporters so adamantly tout.
Posted by: oldspice | April 24, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Double standard. If a white person says what Wright and Obama had said, for sure Sharpton already had a rally and deeply publicize.
Posted by: Alfredo | April 24, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
REV WRIGHT IS NOT RUNNING PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: WHITEWOMAN | April 24, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Yes, yes, White water, Monica, Wal Mart.. blah blah blah.. everything the Clintons were hunted for turned out to be all phony, no convictions… all of it just a waste of money and resources led by the Republicans. Give it up. Yes the Clinton’s are aggressive, strong, competitive, intelligent and now wealthy people. and? I don’t see the problem. They didn’t kill anyone, don’t be stupid. Now Obama, there’s some garbage for you
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Are we Christians so afraid to sound unpatriotic that we cannot admit that many actions taken by our government are not consistent with the teachings of God? Our religious leaders and our government leaders do have the same responsibilities or follow the same tenets. Our religious leaders teach us tolerance and lover, our government protects us — sometimes by violent means. As a man of God, Reverend Wright’s statements were appropriate. I hope people will stop condemning this good man simply because he was Obama’s reverend. It’s not fair.
Posted by: Marilyn | April 24, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
WhiteWoman,
Bill Clinton isn’t running either but everytime the Obama campaign takes his words out of context it’s Hillary’s fault. Rev Wright is a part of Obama as a spiritual advisor and mentor. It’s fair game that his words do matter.
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Louis:
Thanks….
Posted by: tony | April 24, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Bag: You have some proof because they were never tried nor convicted, or have we “changed” to a country where we can just accuse someone of a crime and they are automatically guilty? (maybe this is the change that BHO is talking about)
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Hey J: The Clintoons are the PROOF…they just conveniently hide everything….since they are both crooks and liars too!! ….. ;-D!!
Posted by: Bag-the-Billster—————-
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Like I said where’s your proof? You really need to quit babbling about things you have no proof of. Obama is a crook and a liar. Guess we are even.
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Tony: Good point.. oh wait you didn’t have one
Louis: I am neither uncomfortable, angry or hateful to Barrack. I think some of his policies are fine. I don’t like his associations, I don’t like the way he has run this race and I don’t think I know enough about him to vote for him, what I do know, I don’t really care for. Don’t assign the guilt of bigotry to someone just because they disagree with you.
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
I told my 17-year old son that I don’t agree with Rev Wright’s statement that the government invented the HIV virus but I did tell him that our govenment was not terribly interested in addressing the problem as long as it appeared to only be affecting gays, minorities, IV drug users and prostitutes. It wasn’t until it strted affecting the larger population that our government got serious about prevention,treatment, etc. I never said the Rev. was infallible, or perfect; I simply said he’s not the bad guy some are trying to make him out to be.
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Aa an elderly black woman, I am so upset about this election. I was so proud of Mr. Obama when he announced his decision to run for President. I have been through the racial divide of the sixties, listened to Dr. King, saw my children and grand children rise up to become professionals with college degrees. I’ve lived through the times when I was not allowed to drin tk from the same fountain as white people and called the “n” word just because of my color. My concern is that in all of my life, I have never heard my pastor use my Lord’s name in vain in the pulpit, or curse this blessed country that has given me so much pride, freedom, and happiness as I enjoy the success of my family. Mr. Obama, you are degrading black people all across this land with your selfishness. Please, please, denounce this Mr. Wright, please! He is getting into the public again and I’m afraid the racial tensions of the sixties are upon us again. Please, if you are an African American, denounce this man publicly right now! Dr. King would do this, he loved our country, all people of all colors. Please, Mr. Obama, please!
Posted by: Harriet Tubman | April 24, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Laura, maybe you should tell your 17 year old that words hurt, they can be used against you, they can be used as a weapon against those you love as well as those you hate. Maybe you should tell him to think before he speaks instead of trying to raise anger to raise money.
Laura, Reverend Wright is not a good man and should not be made out to be.
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Wisdom did the truth hurt you? or have you been watching the 700 club too much? So this slime Rev. Wright is suppose to be able to attack America & whites & the truth and I am suppose to shut up and make sure I’m a Christian? Christians are suppose to defend the truth & what is good when it is under attack. These forms are for intense political debate I am using them for what they have been made for so if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. You seem to only want to hide from the truth and escape into your own personal concept of religion, besides Christians have no more real merit in America all those wealthy sensual fake tel evangelist have seen to that!
Posted by: ichabod | April 24, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Bag – from 2001…. and the verdict? I didn’t think so
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 24, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Oh but his statements are pretty accurate about Iraq, Cambodia, Iran-Contra, Tuskegee; There are opposing views amongst credible people re: Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin.
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
He has a right to speak up. I didn’t care for him BUT HILLARY’S PREACHER DID and wrote a letter commending Rev. Wright. Bill Clinton INVITED HIM TO THE WHITE HOUSE prayer breakfast when he spilled his guts about Monica. BILL & HILLARY both counseled with him on their marriage when the Monica mess hit the fan.
No I don’t care for Rev Wright but I STILL SUPPORT Obama. I’m not voting for the man’s preacher but the man.
Posted by: Why Not | April 24, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Chipo1965-
Though, I’m pretty sure its not how you meant it(lol), thanks on wishing me good luck with my son. The one thing I know about my son is he has a good heart and and a sharp mind; He is learning to base his statements on verified facts not innuendo and rumor; To approach issues and positions on the base of logic, reason and knowledge not spite, dogma or bias. If he can continue to do so, he’ll do just fine with or without your “heartfelt” wish of good luck for him.
Posted by: Laura | April 24, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I have come around on this controversy I don’t mind it at all. The people with sense will seek out Rev. Wright’s full sermon and retract their condemnation, those who don’t would never have voted for Mr. Obama anyway, and now we have the Republican approved ground rules for judging religious figures associated with politicians. There is no statute of limitation. There is no presumption of innocence. It’s reject and renounce or you agree and even if you reject and renounce if you should have rejected and renounced sooner or more or you had a close association than it still counts against you forever and ever.
Thank you. We could not have asked for more. It’s like an answer to a prayer.
Posted by: Progressive Observer | April 24, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I think the dag gone chicken need to find another freakin home how about that.. While i’m blogging how many people really want to end racism? It’s obvious in the big clinton states.
Posted by: 4HONEY9 | April 24, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
This is for “J” posted Apr 24, 2008 6:17:31 PM
Be honest here…Bill Clinton IS RUNNING. He most definitely IS running for his third term thru Hillary. So what he says certainly should reflect on Hillary. We won’t get her without her sleeze of a husband.
Posted by: Texas W/Woman | April 24, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
ichabod:
When it comes to being a Christian, a disciple of Christ, the person you should look to is Jesus Christ….
People have done a lot of wrong in His name, but that does not mean it represents Jesus Christ……Keep your eyes on Him and stop making excuses for not following Him…..Read the Bible sometimes and stop watching so much tv…..
Posted by: Wisom & tony | April 24, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
It’s wrong to use another man’s thoughts and words to attack a man who’s never express them or adopted them as their own. I’ve read the full context of Rev. Wright’s sermon and I could find little fault in those words. Quite simply, the Republicans had did what they are simply the best at: Twisting words and phrases to imply something other than what the understanding of those words truly meant.
We did stole the lands of most of this nation from the indigenous Indians who live there. We did intern the Japanese during WWII. We did bomb the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We did do these things. And yet we’re supposed to proclaim ourseleves as proud Americans. Yes, I’m a proud American, but I nor any of you should express pride in the acts that this country does in our name.
Posted by: Gerald Shields | April 24, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Jim the sermons are online read them……I agree you can’t make a big deal out of something if you don’t take the whole sermon in context……more than that all you critics….go to Mr Wrights southside church….you can’t make Obama; Mr Wright…..those of you trying are not Obama supporters and we have done pretty well with all that has gone on………lets see if they understand him in NC……his million dollar home and credit line is what you call appreciation for making a southside church a mega power in the church world……..Clinton had him at the I got some Lewinski booty prayer breakfast…..that was 8 plus years ago…why would things change…..I think his gift has some people envious……white racist can have it all black racistto the cotton fields …..I love this country
Posted by: Country folk | April 24, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Don Imus.
Posted by: John | April 24, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, progressives, liberals, communists, socialists, che, are all in tune with Pastor Wright and his message. Sorry if I missed anyone.
Posted by: Mack | April 24, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
So, the reverend suddenly gets religion? Most important, an apology to the American people and to the United States of America. But, where did his anger and rage go?
Posted by: benvictor | April 24, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Okay people, get all the facts. Listen to the whole sermon and make your own judgement. Let’s unite here as a country and quit demoralizing others we know nothing about.
Posted by: SUNMAKER777 | Apr 24, 2008 2:01:41 PM
Good point to “sunmaker777″
these people on her act like they really know anything about Rev Wright
Posted by: Antoin, Chicago | April 24, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
I wanna see how many PHONYS start switching to Rev Wrights side after he’s had the chance to talk in depth without some silly sound bite.
All of you will look like FOOLS who jut got taken at a VEGAS CASINO BY THE MEDIA.
THE MEDIA DON’T CARE ABOUT THE VOTERS OR PUBLIC, ITS JUST ENTERTAINMENT FOLKS
Posted by: Antoin, Chicago | April 24, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
I think the dag gone chicken need to find another freakin home how about that.. While i’m blogging how many people really want to end racism? It’s obvious in the big clinton states.
Posted by: 4HONEY9 | April 24, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
The Reverand must have a CD that’s about to drop. He’s on a publicity tour. Needs a Bentley to go with that mansion.
Posted by: Mack | April 24, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
There’s a saying;”keep your friends close and your enemies closer” and Barack, I think it’s safe to say your Pastor is no friend, even after 20 years of indoctranation, you may as well leave the campaign, because he’s mad at you! Otherwise why choose now to speak..? I support Hillary 110% but your pastors timing is just plain nasty!
Posted by: Di | April 24, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Could this be a coincidence that Rev.J Wright has just been interviewed, just as OBAMA agreed to be interviewed by Chris Wallace on FOX this Sunday?
Things that make you go: “hmmmm”
Sorry, I’m not convinced… If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, McCain’s the only alternative. Sorry people, I just can’t take a chance on NOBAMA.
Posted by: GS | April 24, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
GS:
who cares what you can’t take a chance with???
Posted by: tony | April 24, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
This is for “J” posted Apr 24, 2008 6:17:31 PM
Be honest here…Bill Clinton IS RUNNING. He most definitely IS running for his third term thru Hillary. So what he says certainly should reflect on Hillary. We won’t get her without her sleeze of a husband.
Posted by: Texas W/Woman
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Look at all the sleazy people Obama surrounds himself with. Why is there a double standard regarding Obama and Clinton. IF you don’t want the Rev’s words to be consider then what Bill Clinton says should not matter either.
Posted by: J | April 24, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
The simple minded waited to be inspired by a high sounding nothing behind a podium where Rev Wright has breathed with hatred and demons cursing for 20 years.
The LEFT WING LIBERALS can never steal a nomination from the matured mind. OBAMA’s disguise is going to be striped to show us real stuff; which is not nothing but snobbishness and snobbess.
OBAMA is just a scarcecrow who quits debates, who don’t want people’s voices heard. The OBAMA fanatics tried to cover up lies, fabricate experiences, and silence peoples’ voices. He is on the way
down down down down.
North Carolina is for you to take. Deliver a knock out punch there, OBAMA sill be a goner. Just go after this wimp and OBANA can’t go one-on-one. He is a 37 gutterball sits on the shoulders of clowns and extremists. They won’t last long before you blow them out.
Go Hillary 08
Posted by: John_Lai | April 24, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
He’s a racist.
Posted by: GWR | April 24, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Why can’t you Obama supporters understand that this is not a racial issue!! It is Obama’s pastor who he stays with, his Ayers, Rezko, and other shady characters that SURROUND his life, not to mention his wife who only NOW is proud of America and America is mean, typical whites, the bitter comment! These things scare the hell out of people! You continue to ignore these things and try to compare Clintons affair, and Nafta to these things and there is no comparison! And someone here just said if the situation was reverse and it was the Clintons or McCain that had all the same baggage you guys would be furious and scared too. A wise person would give it a lot of thought!
Posted by: michafiath | April 24, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
The good Reverend Wright is telling us his close friend Obama knew exactly what was going in the church, but he understands why Obama has to lie about it. Its all politics. They are still BFF.
Posted by: geevill | April 24, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
It always amaze me, about white folks reactions, to the people that was oppressed the most (Anyone of color)about there love for this country, how can it be expressed the same……I can say a lot more about this subject, but I don’t think I need to.
Posted by: Eddie Broussard | April 24, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Poor,poor rev wright, looks like his chickens have come home to roost…….On the aside; This Obama campaign and everything around it is exposing Black Americas UNAPOLOGETIC BIGOTRY
Posted by: CJK | April 24, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
OKAY FOLKS…..ENOUGH!!!!
enough of this nonsense back and forth…It’s getting late; and senator Obama will win in 2008!!!
Like it or not…he will win!!!
Posted by: Wisdom & tony | April 24, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I thought the Reverend said something profound in this interview. He said that he is a pastor and Obama is a politician, and when Obama made his speech on race relations, he was saying was a politician had to say. Funny but I thought Clinton was being called to task about saying whatever it took to win. Apparently Obama is the same old politician and has said what he needs to to get elected. so much for something new.
Posted by: a light goes off | April 24, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
I am a Christian and an American who is proud of my country and always have been. I did not grow up rich, and had to work for everything I have and never expected the government to take care of me. I cannot understand BO or his wife or pastor or any of his friends, but I do not judge them-God will be their judge.
Posted by: virginia | April 24, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
This is in responsed, to a comment that was made. White people fought the Civil War To end Slavery… THATS A LIE… why did’t they fight the Civil War (300 years before 1860, if it was to free the slaves, it was not until the South left the Union. Thats the bottom line. Now you can add all that other nonesense into it if you want to, make you feel better, dosen’t
Posted by: Eddie Broussard | April 24, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Truth to power and the truth about Obama will not be shut down by trying to intimidate people by calling them a racist whenever Obama’s close association with America haters are brought to light. Also, for those Obama supporters who think America is so bad, go find a Nation that will tolerate similar hateful speech about their Nation or cherished beliefs and go live there and see how long your hateful views are tolerated. Problem is if some of Obama’s supporters get their way, ie Wright, Ayers, et. al. and bring down America, all of us will be forced to live in a world where free speech is gone. Furthermore, forget any carrots for your labor as only the stick of the State will be around to prod the masses into handing over the fruit of their labor to the politicians, State workers and Rezco types. Whats left over, after the aforementioned get their cut, to distribute to the people (equally of course) won’t be much. You can count on it.
Posted by: ginger | April 24, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
obama is a liar and a racist.
Posted by: Debbie | April 24, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Oh for God’s sake, if this Wright person had any scruples he would be apologising to Obama and the American public for his hate-filled rant – not complaining that our interpretation is unfair. Which in turn leads us to Obama’s achilles heel – he’s too arrogant and pig-headed to admit any wrongs….
Posted by: Mark | April 24, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Obama is a politician. We speak to two different audiences.
Well that settles it then, Obama is a wolf in sheep clothing. How much of that is honesty? I guess he fooled you blacks, white liberals, youth and anyone who voted for him. Not much substance but a whole lot of form.
Obama listend to this man for 20 years. He is a lawyer and knew his reputation. Oprah at least left the church after 3 years of attendance.
Sexism at play towards Hillary hmmmm!
Posted by: Knowledgeforreal | April 24, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
You guys once again are twisting everything. Listen, I’m a huge Obama supporter and I`m not black. So this is not about Black America taking over America, etc. I`m just a plain old white guy.
You are again focusing on what you want to focus on. What matters in this interview is that Rev. Wright said that Obama never expressed or took his views as his own. That’s the key in the bites we have so far.
This will not change the Democratic race and will not change Obama supporters. The Democratic Party know Barack Obama and they know what he’s about, so supers, etc. will continue to go his side.
What Wright meant to say also is that he has the perspective of a pastor and Obama has the perspective of a politician, that’s all.
Those who are attacking Wright for his sermons you are deeply sounding racist yourself, you are showing your true colors…
Posted by: Anthony | April 24, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Many things Rev Wright said should be left to the historians to make judgment. It is too dangerous to condemn anyone, any group or any nation, in the name of God, especially from a pastor. Countless wars have been waged in the name of God. Brothers against brothers, sisters against sisters – in the name of God. In this complex and complicated world, it is only wise to restrain from imposing our moral justice on others.
Posted by: Vickie | April 24, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Let’s see on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being highest who has the highest score for being a patriot” The man who is quoted as saying “God D— America” or the man who is quoted as saying “Liberty and equality; justice and humanity; self-government, tolerance, respect, and the rule of law — these are the principles by which we fight, the principles by which we live, and the principles by which we will prevail.” ?
Posted by: sally | April 24, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
“Judge not lest ye be judged.”
Perhaps some of the people commenting here could find some time to review the Gospel. Just on the off-chance they might learn something.
Posted by: Tom J | April 24, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
In order to make a decision on what candidate would be the best person to lead us in these difficult and dangerous times I would hope that people would do their best to judge who would be the best. Character and experience are certainly important qualifications that should be used to judge the candidate. Obama has neither in my opinion. Most would agree that Obama’s experience is scant at best. As to character, Obama’s close and personal relationship with Wright, Ayers, Rezco tell me everything I need to know. Tell me, and be truthful to yourself if Obama was anybody else, would you vote for him. I think not.
Posted by: Huxley | April 24, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Rev wright is a pastor, Obama is a politician, two different positions. Bill Clinton is saying anything and everything to help Hillary, and he is an admitted adulter who was the President! No one is criticizing her for standing by her man. Obama is just as qualified as Hillary, her claim to fame is visiting 80 countries, yes she did as FIRST LADY!! SO WHAT. That is no claim to fame to qualify for President, she is just a senator like Barack no more no less.
Posted by: Ms Dean | April 24, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
IS REV. WRIGHT RELEVANT TO THIS ELECTION PROCESS?: For those who think that Rev. Wright is not an issue in the campaign, I beg to differ. First, it doesn’t matter that Rev. Wright has resigned; he was Obama’s “mentor and spiritual adviser” for 20 years. Second, there is no dispute that Rev. Wright believes in and preaches black liberation theology. He admitted it on the church’s website, before the church scrubbed the site for offensive materials in an effort to conceal their true nature. Third, I recommend that all read a few books about black liberation theology to learn more about Obama’s so-called “religion,” and make the determination for yourselves whether or not it has any relationship to Christianity or the teachings of Jesus. Just to give you a head start, here are a few quotes from a founder of black liberation theology (and Rev. Wright’s theological mentor), Rev. James Cone, about Obama’s religion:
(1) “To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people.” (2) “While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism.” (3) “All white men are responsible for white oppression.” (4) “Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man “the devil.” (5) “If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it.” (6) “Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”
Now, if you don’t think that the statements above are racist, then you and I can agree to disagree. The real issue is that Americans in general need to know about the racist nature of Obama’s religion, because it goes to the heart of his character and judgment. Then, once America understands this issue, if they agree with the racist bent of his church, so be it. I have a feeling, however, that once people find out about this issue, he will be losing supporters by the droves. If it doesn’t happen now, it will in the general election if, God forbid, he is the Democratic nominee.
Posted by: James | April 24, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Rezco and the corrupt Chicago political machine paid for Obama’s rise to power, not to mention Ayers. As to Bush and McCain’s Oil connections, whats heating your home and running your car. If you want to go back to the horse and buggy era, be my guest and vote for Obama as the greenies are calling the shots for Obama and they believe the ultimate solution is population control. Just read some of their web sites.
Posted by: sim;ple truth | April 24, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Obama is disingenuous and an opportunist.
Posted by: roncraw | April 24, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
All this about Rev. Wright. I dont hear anyone talking about the Catholic Priest that molested little boys and the church people knew it was going on and sat there for decades and did nothing about it.
Posted by: marie | April 24, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Billy Graham equals Jeremiah Wright!!
Remember the great Billy Graham, the man who said the “satanic Jews controlled the media and pushed pornagraphy” (Nixon tapes 1972, google it). He served as “spiritual advisor” to 9 presidents including Clinton. Was he relevant no. Is Wright, no!
Posted by: Harold | April 24, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Not a religious person here, but was provoked a couple of years ago to read the Left Behind series. It’s Christian fiction, but it’s easy to read so I got through like 12 of I think 16 books. Has anybody else read it? See any parallels?
Posted by: PGHPAVOTER | April 24, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Obama should do the nation a favor and step out of the nominating process so the nation can heal and not have to listen to this hateful garbage anymore. If Obama is elected president, it would be Rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Sharpton, Jackson and who knows else telling Americans what problems we’ve brought home to roost on ourselves. Rev. Wright doesn’t even apologize to 9/11 victims families for his offensive and disgusting remarks. Rev. Wright doesn’t apologize to the families of the 26 Americans murdered by Hamas since they took over Gaza for posting a pro-Hamas article in the church bulletin. Rev. Wright talks about white man’s greed, and the Rev. is moving into a 10,000 square foot mansion on a golf course in a white neighborhood with a $10 million dollar line of credit to spend at will! This sounds a bit like Tony Rezko and his Syrian $3.5 million line of credit. Obama’s campaign is filled with haters and terrorists.
Posted by: calli | April 24, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Moyers and Wirght are members of the same Church faith.
Posted by: tom | April 24, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I feel very sad that Obama’s moving speeches of “hope” are not matched by his backers, associates and advisors. I am truly opposed to racism; no matter the color and hateful excuses/doctrine.
Now I have learned that Obama has a flaming racist minister and I have learned that Black Liberation Theology is a marxist ideology with a twist calling for leaders to kill whites and Jews (whereas Marxists call for class based mass murder). I can’t support him to be the president of all our people and protect our nation.
Just like I could not support a white person who was a member of a KKK church for twenty years for president of the US, I can not vote for a black person who is a member of a Black liberation theology church to be our President! I am very disappointed that Obama’s slick words are covering up something very stupid, dangerous and ugly – hate and bitterness.
Posted by: sara123 | April 24, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
In reply to some of the prior posts regarding, Wright, racism, and Japan.
Rev. Wright is using the contributions from his followers to build a multi million dollar home in a private gated (mostly white) community. Given this, Wright appears to have recovered pretty well from any past grievances that may have brought on due to the color of his skin. Oh, I forgot, Wright grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood and was raised by two successful professional parents.
“John Brown’s body lies a mouldering in the grave…John Brown died that the slaves might be free” A Civil war was fought to free the slaves. Civil rights acts were written into law. Furthermore, anyone making any type of racist statement against blacks gets marked with a “racist” letter on their forehead and is shunned forever more. Unless your Rev. Wright of course as in our Alice and Wonderland world, its ok to be a racist who makes racist remarks about whites.
Japan is one of our best allies. Some argue that using nuclear bombs against Japan was unjustified. Other very credible historians say that bombing Japan was justified as thousands more would have died, US and civilian Japanese, if the US had been forced to invade Japan. Given Japan’s suicide bombers and fanatic worship of their god like emperor, Truman, a Democrat by the way, thought it likely that Japan would not surrender and made the decision to bomb Japan.
The main problem with Obama supporters in my view as that they demand perfection and if perfection is not reached they turn to hatred and bitterness towards their own Nation and become easy prey to Obama’s hollow refrain of “hope” and “change”. The USA is not perfect and has made many mistakes. In my opinion, however, the USA has always tried her best to correct her mistakes and, bottom line, has a good heart and good people. That is why Obama’s close association with Rev. Wright and Ayers is so troubling.
Posted by: Sannt | April 24, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
The main problem with Obama supporters in my view as that they demand perfection and if perfection is not reached they turn to hatred and bitterness towards their own Nation and become easy prey to Obama’s hollow refrain of “hope” and “change”.——–
Sannt this may be your opinion but you are completely off base. And why would you even think that. We are not bitter towards our country. I am just shaking my head at this one. Why do you presume to know why we support Obama. I do not like Hillary for numerous reasons. And feel Obama would be a better choice.
Posted by: lisa | April 24, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Bill Moyers With Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Digging Obama A Bigger Hole While Explaining Himself?
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Posted by: PAXALLES | April 24, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Sally what the heck are you talking about????? So you have the truth about Obama. What are you scared of. This country has so many narrowed people that can’t see beyond their own backyard.
Posted by: ll | April 24, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Obama supporters have to admit that Obama has relatively scant experience for the Office of President. Thus Obama’s character becomes paramount in assessing Obama’s qualifications. Yet, when anyone says that Obama’s character can best be judged by the people he associates with,ie Wright and Ayers, Obama supporters get bent out of shape and resort to name calling. So my question is since most people agree Obama does not have a lot of experience what, other than good speeches, makes you think Obama is qualified to be President? Please be specific and again, do not say he can make a good speech or change the subject by putting down other candidates.
Posted by: Harry | April 25, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
To say this “Rev Wright” is as dumb as a box of rocks would be an insult to the rocks. The box of rocks has remained silent on the issue, while the good old reverend, just keeps this train wreck rolling.
Posted by: Dave B | April 25, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Obama has been vetted by the best.Rev. Wright knows Obama. William Ayers knows Obama. Rezco knows Obama. Do you know Obama?
Posted by: serfico | April 25, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
“UNFAIR” … what this man said about Natalee Holloway was UNFAIR .. and she is not here to defend herself. He owes every white woman that has ever been raped an apology. And he owes Natalee Holloway’s family an apology. HE HAS NO SOUL. And for Obama to defend him has caused me and every person I know who voted for him to regret it. We are voting for Hillary Clinton. Obama should be ashamed of his 20+ year relatioship with this man, and the fact that he is not, says everything we need to know about him. As for the flowery speech, the bottom line was he was saying America is racist … sorry, but America didn’t sit in this gross man’s church for 20+ years with you Barack!!!
Posted by: Elinda | April 25, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Wright said, Obama said what he said about him as a Politician. These words sound fishy to me. Is Wright hinting that Obama disagreed with him in public because that’s what the American people wanted to hear? This means Obama agreed with Wright’s sermons but will not tell the American people that because he is afraid the American people will get offended? THIS IS REALLY REALLY SCARY!
Posted by: JR, Independent, IN | April 25, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
I know what I heard from those sermons, but I guess now Wright is going to tell me that I did not hear it. Last year, when it was first becoming apparent that Obama was going to run and he was singing the praises of Wright as being his inspiration, The New York Times interviewed Wright. He told the reporter that if Obama made it to be the Nominee, then he would have to distance himself from Obama if he hoped to win in the general election. When asked about this statement, Obama agreed with Wright. Ok, so if he is telling us now that he is just misunderstood or taken out of context, what was he talking about in that interview? Is there something else that hasn’t come out about Wright and Obama? The thing about it is that every black church in America basically believes the same thing, that we are all a bunch of blue eyed devil typical white people, to quote Farrahkan and Obama. Everytime has to do with racism. Go to the article on this site about Wesley Snipes tax evasion of 2.7 million dollars. It’s not like he did not have the money, he REFUSED to pay. He ordered his employees not to pay taxes (I did not see how many obeyed), and he tried to get back all of the tax money he had paid previously, after joining a tax evaders group. He got three years in prison. He probably won’t serve half of it, and it will be in a Federal Country Club that just has a fence around it, not a real prison. If you or I were somehow fortunate enough to make this kind of money also, the government would waste no time getting their share. I make 9.00 an hour and I pay taxes. But, look at the comments on the website. It is racism. Trying to keep the black man down. How? By asking him to obey the law? It’s the same, whether it is OJ or the scum that killed the college students in NC, we are racists for locking them up. If Obama is elected President, be ready to hear nothing but a lot more of the same for the next four years.
Posted by: Melanie | April 25, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
I think Rev. Wright has every right to defend himself. I watched the sermon in it’s entirety. While I don’t agree 100% with him on his sermon I do think Obama threw him under the bus. Obama played a political game- seperate from a harmful thing. It goes against what he proposes in his campaign. He talks about change and yet he plays the same old political game when it comes to controversy. I think this was brilliant by Rev. Wright. Obama disowned him (and he did in the PA debate before quickly backtracking and saying I meant I disowned his statements). What I got from Rev. Wright today was that if Obama won’t stand by his people, his people do not have to stand by him. If Obama couldn’t defend and stand by his pastor of twenty years how will he stand by the american people.
Posted by: amber | April 25, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
It sounds like Rev Wright is trying to tell us that Obama is not being truthful. Obama is a politician and saying what the crowd wants to hear.
Posted by: cmyvote2008 | April 25, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Rev. Wright is a hate monger. He doesn’t want Obama to win, because it would invalidate his rhetoric and make him irrelevant. Eric Hoffer once wrote that “all great movements eventually become a business, then degenerate into a racket.” The black people who buy into his victimization are paying to put him in a 1.9 million dollar home, (with a 10 million dollar credit line attached???), in a white neighborhood. Per the WSJ on 1/15/06, here is what Wright said, “Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body.” Of course the video clip version is a little more interesting Maybe it’s just my narrow minded brain, but those are not words to inspire. They are words meant to hold people down. They destructive and devisive words to all people.
Regardless of Wright’s rantings, I, like 95% of my fellow Americans are ready to elect a black person, or a woman, or other minority, to be president. The only requirement is they have to be the best candidate. Before the Wright incident I was not a big Obama fan as he had the least experience and his message was not concrete enough. Sorry but HOPE and CHANGE don’t pay the bills at my house. I flat out believe Obama is lying about being unaware of the sermons Wright was preaching. There is a lot his hasn’t answered like does he believe in “Black Liberation Theology”. Does he believe in the “Black Value System”? Has he read James Cone. And to stay in THAT church, without constructively working to change the character of the church to a more inclusive theology showed a lack of leadership. If Obama had been raised in this church I might not be a hard on him, but I still would not excuse. If this was the church of his wife and her family I would not be so hard on him, be I still would not excuse him. Instead he chose this church and brought his wife and children to it. He chose the church, and he chose to contributed 10′s of thousands of $$$ to allow Wright to continue his condemnation of America. Someone who wants to be president needs to have the inability to anticipate how the people and the media would react he showed bad judgement.
Posted by: Cole | April 25, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
It is suggested that these people said what they have to say to people not as a person of integrity. They just say what people wants to hear.
The pastor made performances that attract crowds to church. Blasphemy? They wouldn’t care less? They are professionals which alienate themselves from other folks.
The politician does just what politicians do.
The multi-faced, double-talking, fork-tongued, word-twisting, liars!!!! This is an election about race. No doubt about it. The black voters sees this as an opportunity to be on top at all cost. They have dreamed about it and laugh at nights about how stupid the white men are giving that much advantages for them to be ahead.
Now the black elites look upon the white working class with contempt. To them, those are just desperate person hanging on guns and religion while they enjoy successes and making lots of money in politics.
After so many years of coalition effort of bring the country together, most of the black community are still hateful to the white community and their churches make sure that they remember that AIDS was created by the government as a genocidal tool against them. This Rev declared America’s chickens came home to roost on 9/11, and wanted God to damn America?
To finish off, they want to be on top at all cost. Over 92% of them votes for one brother to be on top. Even that guy, OBAMA, is unable to point to a single important instance in his Senate career which demonstrated bipartisanship and leadership in congress.
Wake up America! The chickens roost now.
Posted by: John_Lai | April 25, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
O silly American folk, the man said obama is a politician and he said after he was a pastor, highlighting that obama has to face to people where his responsibility lies in his church. Why just parse his words and take them out of context, you guys are intellectually dishonest
Posted by: Javan Dyer | April 25, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
What he tries to say is that he is just making a living like OBAMA does.
They do everything necessary to please the customers. They do not give a damn they may hurt others as long as they are filthy rich and Americans are paying for that.
They want you folks to leave them alone because once the truth is known, they would be condemned from this side of the planet to the other side.
There is no repentence but business going as usual. They are going to educate the next generation to hate Americans and the white folks; the typical white person.
Posted by: John_Lai | April 25, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
There are so many good people around that you can elect as president.
Why do you have to choose a guy who smells nothing but danger and disaster?
Think hard before you give this OBAMA your vote because you may have to pay a very dear price on your decision.
Hillary may not please you but you know that she will stand up for American and cannot be bought with money and sex. I can’t say the same thing about the new bornt star though.
Hillary 08
Posted by: John_Lai | April 25, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Forget the media hype and fear tactics. No more drama. Vote Obama.
Posted by: ChayaFradle | April 25, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Rev. Wright talks about the church’s good deeds in the black community… does he ever mention the Black Liberation Theology he teaches and what it has to say about the black man and the white man? I’m betting not; although that “I don’t have blood on my hands” comment skirted the edges of it.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 25, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
Wright was not quoting Peck. I found the Peck transcripts and he never said “America’s chickens are coming home to roost” or any of the other words that follow. Wright saying Peck said those things doesn’t make it so. This is just more baloney from the Obama campaign meant to deflect criticism away from them.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 25, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Some here have said that we shouldn’t judge Rev. Wright and his church – but Obama did when he disinvited Wright from his giving the invocation at his Presidential campaign launch. His explanation to Wright: “You can get pretty rough in some of those sermons.”
Obama knew exactly what was being preached in that church for 20 years – and he obviously agreed with it or he wouldn’t have stayed. To those who refuse to believe that – do you have any doubt that Michelle Obama soaked up the sermons?
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 25, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
america has three choices
1. vote for george bush part deux i.e Mr No change Mcsame, and more division!
2. Vote for the liar , who would do and say anything to get what she wants, menaing no unity!! and more divisons
3. A man with questionable friends( as yourself don’t you have friends or people you know with that have ideals and ideas you profoundly disagree with), but gives the country hope and unity !
In american history, unity and diversity has never been done by the majority it always been done by the minority, think about it! Womans rights, civil rights, equal rights have all been championed by the minorites , weather it be women or blacks or hispanics and working class white people, the majority i.e as rev wright calls them the rich white men that run america , not the middle class white or working class , but the rich white men have run this country for to long with out any real progress , as a little indonesian boy said, he is tired of old white men running america , he wants something new he wants ‘hope’. Becuase as the world has seen , america has a jewel in it’s midst but becuase of silly guilt by association, america is going to vote for the liar or more of the same! I hope america choose properly becuase your choice inpacts not just USA but the world, when America sneezes the world catches a cold, we have seen that by the econimic situations and the war on terror!
Do Americans truely get it!!? or will you project your fears of the different and vote for the same and liars and backbitters?
America choice is simple…stop wasting time, this is a chance fo a lifetime do not waste the best thing to come across in a long while!!!!
Posted by: Javan Dyer | April 25, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
When we talk guns-right to bear arms
When we talk of sex- same sex marriage, abortion, pornorgraphy, strip clubs
When we talk religion – we all get in the blender!! Round and round – wag the dog – wag the dog – wag the dog! Wake up America the county is going to hell -we need to pick a president and I suggest we stop listening to this CRAP!
We must make the media get to the issues and get out of the gutter – We need solutions! Leave the National Enquirer headlines out of it! The last debate was a joke – you could have had 2 ditsy teenage girls there and I bet they would have asked better questions! We have freedom of religion in this county – GET OFF IT – this is a constitutional right – why are you going there????? For God’s sake – I don’t care what you wear or how you worship – I just by God want a PLAN!Can you at least try to find out what they think on the issues?
Posted by: white mountain | April 25, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am
There is no rule saying that the candidate with more delegates wins the nomination unless they reach 2025. The OBAMA campaign and surrogates are so deceitful that they make up new rules for OBAMA.
It is not question of Maths. It it is a dilemma about who can win the general election.
Obama is unelectable and detested by the working class.
OBAMA and his campaign suggest to split the delegates of Florida and Michigan rather than revote. By so doing they intend to silence the voters rather than let people’s voices be heard.
They do not allow people to be critical about OBAMA. They think any doubts about OBAMA is negative. They practice on Euphemism and tell you anything you want to hear behind a podium.
OBAMA is unable to point to a single important instance in his Senate career which demonstrated his bipartisanship. Mr. Obama has not been a leader on big causes in Congress. He has never been a leader. The OBAMA fanatics make up credentials for OBAMA which have been refuted by Factcheck.
OBAMA is only good at whining about his treatment by Hillary and the press (for the first time ask him some serious questions that we all want to know about him). He attacks Sen. John McCain by exaggerating and twisting his words.
Obama only knows how to give routine answer to routine questions according to his script, when you ask questions about himself. He panicks and his fanatic fans panic. We want to know more about him but he quits debates. He sure has lots to hide.
He is not a man that you want to be your president. He smells danger and disaster.
Posted by: John_Lai | April 25, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am
Rev Wright is a true Patriot. He has spent his life preaching what he believes despite the consequences. Whether I think he’s right or wrong in how his messages are delivered, I support him.
I have experienced racism in this country since I was a child coming as a refugee from an oppressive country. I am a hispanic female, very blonde with light eyes and I have experienced this at any given time by hispanics, whites, blacks, and males.
At least in this country, we are able to fight and win racism. This freedom is priceless.
Thanks to people like Rev. Wright, the new generation of children do not put up with it. My young son ,at this time, has been put in the same spot of oppression and is currently fighting for his right to be treated fairly by a teacher at school who he believes is a racist. Like, Rev. Wright he is also fighting for his right to his opinion.
Thank you Rev. Wright and Congrats to the incredible new generation of children.
Posted by: larteaga | April 25, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
Please let us go back to an Election for a United States Senator who had a showing of a black hand. What do we say about things like that in this our Unted States of America. Do you also remember when they were considering a person to become the Pope, they asked this lady how about a Black Pope, so you see the Black Race will always in the back of the line. Yes I served my country in the Military for twenty three years and I have over twenty three years again working for the Federal Government, is there a problem with race in the Unted States the answer is YES. Was the Nelson Mandela a problem to his country he gave twenty plus years of his life in JAIL. To long the Black Race has had to fight for things that are taken for granted by the white race. I wonder if they looked at some of Dr. Kings speeches would he be considered to be against the US.
Posted by: Eugene Grant | April 25, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am
This guy just can’t keep his mouth shut. He was about to see his friend of twenty years get the Dem nod and he is incapable of keeping his mouth shut – what an idiot!
Posted by: Bob Thompson | April 25, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
What amazes me is that it took Hannity to bring out this news to the majority of the people. Where was the news media on this one ? And where is the media on Ayers?
Posted by: CHAOS | April 25, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
“It went down very simply,” Wright responds. “He’s a politician, I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences.”
Boy, that says it all, doesn’t it. The “Pastor” thinks it’s okay to take the Lord’s name in vain in Church.. apparently.. and apparently, Obama says what he needs to say to his “audience”. Good God, Obama must wish this cat would SHUT UP.
Posted by: A Reader in Georgia | April 25, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Eugene: Dr king didn’t hate America. He saw it’s weaknesses and it’s greatness.
Posted by: CHAOS | April 25, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
WRIGHT = Obama
Bill = Hillary
Who would you rather have… I will take Bill and Hillary – thanks dude
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 25, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
I don’t see how any Obama supporters can defend this man and his loathing of America.
I don’t see how any Obama supporter can support Obama the way he surrounds himself, and marries, people who have no pride in America. How can you support a man who will not place his hand over his heart during the pledge?
Shouldn’t the person you want to elect POTUS show that he loves his country?
(Loves THIS one, not the other one he is a citizen of)
Posted by: Pat | April 25, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
Obama is George W. Bush, Liberal version.
Posted by: calli | April 25, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
geevill, exactly my thoughts. Rev. Wright knows Obama as well as any person can. If he tells me Obama just “says what he has to say as a politician” that’s good enough for me.
NObama!
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 25, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Never will I vote for Obama. Never. He says what he has to say to get elected. What a man. What a leader.
My unequivocal order: Hillary; McCain; stay home.
Posted by: Bitter Voter | April 25, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Here is my vote
Hillary
McCain
stay home.
signed a typical white Reagan democrat.
This isn’t about Race, Barry, it’s about words and judgment, isn’t that how you wanted us to judge YOU?
Posted by: babs in pa | April 25, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
If not for Hannity harping about these things, Wright, Ayers, and bitter comments, we would never have known about them. The rest of the media only covered it when they had no other way out of it, they were actually forced to report the news. I never watched Fox or Hannity, but I got so sick of cnn and nbc the way they were in love with Obama that I changed and now watch fox( and I hate it too) but I want to know whats going on. Everything, not just what the media thinks I should know. Had this stuff cone out back in February, Obama would not have gotten as many votes as he has and we would not be in the spot we are now, Hillary would all ready have wrapped this thing up. I just wish the media would do some real reporting, and try to be a bit unbias in their reporting.
Posted by: backn2 | April 25, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Obama goes out and says what he has to say as a politician, very telling words by Rev. Wright.
He did say Obama speaks to the people from his heart, what he said is that Obama as a politician says what he has to say to win over the people, it may not necessarily be true but if his words can wins votes he says it anyway.
Thank you Rev.Wright, you did not have to confirm that to me about Obama I always knew his words were being spoken just to win votes.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Sounds to me like Wright knows Obama pretty well, and probably a lot better than most Obama fans (and superdelegates) supporting him. He knows Obama had to say what he said in his Philadelphia speech “as a politician.” If you listen to the rest of the interview, he also knows that Obama joined the church in the first place for political reasons. Might be that Obama never left the church because it was politically expedient for him to stay, not because he agreed or disagreed with anything Wright had to say. Pretty sad if you ask me.
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | April 25, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
All of you that were saying the Rev was speaking the truth so is he now speaking the truth when he is telling the public that Obama is just a politician and goes out and tells the people what he feels they want to hear.
In other words if he needs to say he will denounce the Rev for the sake of political expediency he will say it but that is not how he feels inside. I don’t think any of you need a more defining statement than that from the Rev.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
OBAMA NEEDS TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE NOW TO SAVE THE PARTY. HE WILL NOT WIN NOW. HIS GOOD FRIEND THE BIGOT PASTOR HAS JUST ADMITED THAT OBAMA IS LIAR IN PA. HE IS JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL POLITICIAN
Posted by: chris | April 25, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
No, Rev. Wright is not running for office, and YES his theology has skewed but the real issue is Obama’s tie to him and others who are questionable. Why would Obama NOT distance himself from this man, seeing he’s running for the highest office in the country? He will be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb! He may still win the primary(I doubt it), but will loose MISERABLY in the general election. And Mr. Wrights interview will only exasserbate Obama’s problems.
Posted by: dwn2earth | April 25, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Mary 10:15 AM – The answer to your question is simple. Hillary can’t close the deal because (a) she is loosing 90% of the black vote which is huge in many primaries including upcoming NC where she will start out something like behind by 30% to 2%, (b) her campaign screwed up their approach to caucus states, (c) there are a lot of people including the media who have been piling on her for 10 years which degrades her standing with many (d) there are lots of people who are not comfortable with a woman, especially a strong one, (e) she has lots of self-inflicted wounds, (f) many are easily fooled by a good speech and media spin for Obama, and (g) there are lots and lots and lots of superdelegates who think it is in their self interest (e.g. they get more power) by going over to Obama vs Hillary. Personally, my very clear first choice is Hillary. I would probably vote for Obama over McCain but I’m no longer 100% certain of that, especially if McCain comes out much stronger for addressing global warming.
Posted by: Chris NY, NY | April 25, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
READ THE ENTRIRE SERMON THEN MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!! THIS IS AMERICA STUPID!!
DEMOCRACY IS NOT EASY EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH NO MATTER HOW DIFFRENT FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES AND IDEAS. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD A BEACON TO ALL. JUDGE A MAN BY HIS OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS. AMERICA PLEASE DON’T LOSE SIGHT OF WHO WE ARE AND OF THE FREEDOM THAT SO MANY HAVE DIED AND ARE STILL DYING FOR.
Posted by: letty Tex | April 25, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Of course when Obama criticized Wright it would go down as no big thing to him and he went on to explain why, it was because he knew Obama’s back was against the wall with the press coverage and as he said Obama was giving a response as a politician.
Besides before this election Wright and Obama already discussed this issue that it will come up and Wright told him that he may have to disown him, they both agreed on that and there is proof of that conversation.
So all this from Obama that he did not hear this and that, he did not approve of Wright saying this and that, is nonsense as Wright has said Obama is saying what he needs to say to appease the public, the media and anyone that he feels will support him, nothing more its just words for votes.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Here is the problem, You all keep saying why should Obama be accountable for what Wright says? Well you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You hold Clinton and McCain accountable for what anyone around them says, so why shouldn’t Obama be held to those same standards?
Posted by: Cathy6224 | April 25, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Here is the problem, You all keep saying why should Obama be accountable for what Wright says? Well you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You hold Clinton and McCain accountable for what anyone around them says, so why shouldn’t Obama be held to those same standards? If he is as innocent (and I use that term loosely) as you all claim, then there should be no reason for you all to get defensive and angry
Posted by: Cathy6224 | April 25, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Obama says what he has to say as a politician!!!!
Nothing can be clearer than those words. It dose not mean what he says he is going to do, it says Obama speaks for political expediency and nothing more.
Case closed Obama is only words with no substance behind it.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
nothing happens to rev. wright or obama for what they say, but don imus gets fired and a big deal is made for what he said. which is not even nearly as bad as what jermiah wright said in his sermon. remember how quick obama responded to the don imus fiasco? he condemned imus and CBS for it and called for him to be fired. why didn’t he do the same with jeremiah wright? this is a clear double standard.
Posted by: noyb | April 25, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I think the media has finally realized that their “golden” boy, Obama, has a LOT of negatives and are now jumping ship! Look for the Super Delegates to start doing the same thing. Reverend Wright has re-surfaced and will continue to haunt Obama in Indiana and North Carolina. According to Gallup, Clinton is fast closing the gap on Obama, the GOP are running very negative ads about Obama in North Carolina, many voters in Indiana are blue collar, which Obama can not win, nor can he win the Catholic vote. I think Obama is beginning to really be vetted, not only by Clinton, but by the media, and by the GOP. If you remember, the press has been very nice to Obama over the last 15 months, its been an uphill battle for Clinton. However, she has perservered, continues to win, and you can bet the Super D’s are taking notice. Heck, Obama outspent her 3 to 1 in Pennslyvania, and Clinton still won. I think we better start getting used to the idea that Clinton will be the Deomcratic nominee for President in the fall. Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 25, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Jake Tapper & ABC , Keep up the good work. We need to know more about Obama and his pastor.
If Obama wasn’t in general agreement with what his Pastor was teaching he would not have attended his church for 20 yrs.
We don’t need a President who will not display the US Flag as evidence of his support for our country.
The Minister made very Anti American comments,Obama won’t wear the symbol of America in his lapel.
The two must be in general agreement.
We do not need this man as our President.
Not to mention the fact that he is no more than a slick politician and the most Liberal of Liberals
Posted by: Roy Johnson | April 25, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Laura……I think if it was a big deal about Hillary and Pastor Cole, then it would be all over the press. The media is “Pro Obama” as it is. The fact remains, Obama, out of his own mouth said that Wright was like an “uncle” to him and that he would not “disown” him.
America has seen the recordings, read the messages of Wright and his anti-American remarks. Obama gave this church $27,000 last year. Obama, does support this type of rhetoric. You are like the people you associate with, it’s human nature. If Obama was planning to run for President, he should have realized this. Obama is hurting right now. The media is vetting him and I’m glad. He has been the “Pied Piper” for waaaaay to long. It looks as if he has played his last song! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 25, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Senator Obama can not win, not because he is black, but because he is to liberal for America. Rarely has he been asked any of the tough question which a constitutional republic requires. I am not even sure he believes the Constitution is even necessary anymore.
Posted by: Pierre C. LeMaster | April 25, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Yes and Obama is being judged by his actions, or inactions, of not leaving that church 20 years ago.
Posted by: Mack | April 25, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Did the Republicans pay Wright to go public now? BIG mistake for Obama’s campaign.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 25, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
BRANDY; You have missed the whole point.
Posted by: CHAOS | April 25, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
This is not about being responsible for what someone else says. I cannot believe that people believe that is the point of the Wright controversy. It is about Obama being a follower of his for many years, it is about certain statements in his books and it is about his lies. Obama proclaims that he is So different and is the man to elect for change…what kind of change? How will the change occur? Just utter BS
Posted by: Raleigh voter | April 25, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Raleigh voter……excellent post! I totally agree with you! Hillary 08 !
Posted by: david from texas | April 25, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Does Wright expect us to rush out and buy his videos so we can view them in their proper context? No thank you. Truth is, he meant every word he said-all the way to the bank.
Posted by: livegap | April 25, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
275,000,000 people on this country and we end up with 3 idiots to choose from.
Posted by: CHAOS | April 25, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Just like Obama! It is everyone’s fault but his! Rev Wright slammed Whites, eurochristianity (catholics and Eoropean desendent Christians/Protestents) Italians, Jews and anyobody else he wanted too. And of course, America. His own country! And while he is slamming this country and making excuses as to why he did this, he is building a 10,000 plus square foot home for his family! He lives in a life of luxury! yeah, Rev. Wright, this country has been really bad to you! And of course, to your 20 year follower, Obama, who wants to be the AMERICAN President! Yes Sen. Obama, words do matter! So now hear ours…We are not voting for Obama!
Posted by: Core Democrat | April 25, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Every opposition candidate from city secretary to Gov. will be playing those tapes if the Dems go with Barack. Won’t be a democratic dog catcher or so called democratic super delegate left in this country.
Barack sat there for 20 years and said nothing.
Nobody should be expected to put up with that kind of bullshit out of a President
Posted by: livegap | April 25, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Senator Obama has run his campaign as the candidate of change. To sweep this problem under the rug by making the Reverend disappear would be politics as usual and exactly what I would expect from every other candidate. The fact that Jeremiah Wright is sitting for a nationally televised interview to the surprise of every pundit is an example of how said pundits believe the american public needs to be talked down to and how different this campaign is for refusing to do so.
Posted by: larry | April 25, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
What truth the man speaks!..A real friend always gives criticism and an immature person will ignore it although it is there to empower them by exposing there faults before someone else takes advantage of them… face the truth.
White people its hard to hear the truth but the truth sets you free as cliche as it sounds.
Grow up America and except your faults and sins in order to conquer them.
Martin Luther king gave a sermon about America too that doesn’t seem much different than Mr wrights during the Civil Rights movement. Many church leaders gave the same sermon who were white to condemning slavery and they to were un popular with the majority of Americans who embraced slavery…and were they right? No!
White people have to own up to what they have done to the world and what we have done to our own citizens out of fear and economic gain and plain ole distain for human life, just because they look different.
A good councilor and often the best is the one who was once the junkie.
Separate yourselves from the bad ones and show the world you are no longer willing to have a country built on the back of fear and denial.
I’m white and hate my history as most of my peers do to, but that doesn’t mean we cant write a new book, one that our generation excepts our wrongs instead of getting emotional and denying what we have done, when someone tells us how we really were…key word ‘ Were.
Shame is hard to deal with but don’t kill the messenger! His message is key to us not repeating the nasty things we have done in the name of God.
C
Posted by: c | April 25, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Apparently, Barack never heard of the trouble “tapes” caused Nixon. Equally apparent, passing American history is not required when you go to Harvard based on the color of your skin.
Barack’s Ivy league education is about as shallow as a saucer of spit.
Posted by: livegap | April 25, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Barack was NOT a professor as he claims. Spoken like a true politician.
Posted by: liveoakgap | April 25, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Chicago University of the communiy college for affirmative action people with black skin don’t make a law professor. Hell, you could hardly call ‘em legal aids.
Posted by: liveoakgap | April 25, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
this reminds me of my teacher, my parents and some mentors who were concerned about me growing up in the world.They often seemed angry by the words they used in order to get me inline. But I didn’t concentrate on the anger part, because I knew that what they said was out of love and the were speaking the truth no matter the words they used.
I listened and changed my ways.
Its simple…He’s right and as a young white person I can Look beyond the anger in order to receive the direction the people who love you give, you should to America.
So those of us who would rather feel offended and emotional instead of dealing with the facts of our history, you are the ones who slow down America’s healing from our nasty past…
I’m not in denial! are you?
Posted by: c | April 25, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Hey Clyburn..Why don’t you say something about Wright’s and Obama’s lying bizzarre. Why because they are African Americans. You are bizarre. Grow up.
You are the one who is bizzare and a disgrace. Racial discrimination against African American has been overused and misused. Actually you are now beginning to be racial. To get away with bad comments and bad behavior you will always use the racial issue as an EXCUSE. Shut up.
Beware North Carolinians and Indianians….Obama lied and just a Politician.
Posted by: Alfredo | April 25, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
any excuse will do
Posted by: Teeo | April 25, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
There are a LOT of questions about Obama that still remain to be answered. He likes to ride “the fence” with no substance. He’s just an “empty suit. “
Posted by: david from texas | April 25, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
WOW Dems can really be intolerant.
Posted by: CHAOS | April 25, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
I think this :
The religous right got played and got us Bush and the 8 years of destruction of our prestige and economy. We the people deserved it .
This time : We have triangulation , dishonesty and pandering to the fears of everyday mostly uneducated people. We elect this : We the people deserve this .
Someone comes along and talks hope…talks about US changing OUR country …We can get distracted by petty issues which basically boil down to race. It will show that this country is not ready to live up to its promise , not ready to move past the gutter. Not adult enough to admit its mistakes or correct them . We the people …Will get the government we deserve… And we in the end will have noone to blame but OURSELVES. If WE dont take back our country . WE may as well just wrap it up and give it to Coorporations , Clintons and the Oil companies and go back to sleep watching American Idol while the ship that used to be the USA sinks slowly in its own ignorance while the rest of the world watches and laughs ..
Posted by: A.P | April 25, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
i live in northwest indiana i don’t mlk resko,ayers and i don’t like obama. i going to vote for hillary or mcCain.
Posted by: delite820 | April 25, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
This Black Theologian minister married Obama and baptized him and his children.
Whoa! I just can’t wait to hear the prayer this man will cook up for the inauguration IF Obama actually pulls it off! THAT should be interesting!
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 25, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Obama couldn’t bring “Hope” and “Change” to his church in 20 years. What does anyone think he is going to accomplish in Washington in 4? His church seems to be a place to just make people miserable and disatisfied with their lot in life. It seems more political than religious, “Let’s stir the people up!.” God is all about hope, but there seems to be none at the Trinity Church.
Posted by: jkr | April 25, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Its very evident that the only way to get attention is to stir up trouble. When it comes to this presidential race, it’s not about Obama and Clinton. If we were only willing to tell the truth. As african americans it’s always going to be a challenge, because we have to work that much harder for something in the public’s eye. But let’s stick to the issue’s, where are the jobs, NAFTA, the Clinton’s, the Millionaire’s. It’s a way of not having to deal with what’s really wrong with our nation. So they distract the voters with who-do’s. Let’s stick with what’s best for the nation of America, get the gas in control, bring our soldiers back home, there’s alot more to worry about then some statement that somebody don’t like. If we searched long enough we could definitely open up alot of mess on the othere side. GO OBAMA
Posted by: Rev. Kevin Little Sr. | April 25, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
For Obama’s sake and for the sake of the rest of our country, maybe the Reverend can shut up NOW!
Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | April 26, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Wright interview: (definetly taken out of context and has been in some pretty significant places in America’s history including LBJ hospital visit and improving life for thousands of children)
Posted by: chris | April 26, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
We don’t want, nor indeed can we afford an affirmative-action President. The fact that things, any one of which, would normally bring any White candidate down instantly are passed over should make his affirmative-action status obvious. (Read Michelle’s Princeton anti-White thesis and you will realize that she is another affirmative-action recipient. She graduated cum laude–with A’s in crip courses that predominated in her major and minor–and was give two affirmative-action jobs, one in the 100 thousand+ range and the other close to 300 thousand. It’s great to be given free Ivy League educations (where no professor will dare fail you if you are Black) and great jobs afterwaads! Additionally, if Obama had to wallow in the politics and ignorant attitudes of Wright’s church to get elected in Illinois/Chicago, he should realize that those compromises with decency preclude his ever running for national office. (Pastors are supposed to enlighten their flocks, lead them out of darkness, not into the kind of vile ignorance Wright preaches!) THE RACE CARD IN THIS RACE IS OBAMA!–a totally unqualified man (and a leftist by his record), thinking that he can con people into voting for him just because he is Black–that they will completely put aside everyday commonsense, be browbeaten into voting for him or else be labeled racist. The country is full of qualified Blacks, but Obama is not one of them. The sad thing is that the country really need a real Democrat, someone who is not elitist and recognizes the increasingly perilous plight of the working man in America–anyone who works full time, especially at a skilled or highly responsible job, should be able to make a living in this country and have decent benefits, medical insurance and retirement. The working man used to be the Democrat base. What happened?–no one speaks up for the working man these days.
Finally, while not fully satisfied with either, I would not worry excessively with either Hillary or McCain as President.
One man’s ideas with which no one has to agree–I would be satisfied if you would at least “brainstorm” some of the above.
Tom R.
Posted by: Tom R | April 26, 2008, 5:51 am 5:51 am
Obama is misleading.
He will say whatever he has to to win this election.
He has not been fortcoming since the beginning of this election.
How dare he expect anyone to support him as President of the United States.
Reverend Wright is a hateful man. I don’t know of anyone in my whole life that would speak this way in a public arena.
How dare this man want us to understand his cruel statements about the United States and the white race.
If he were my pastor, I would have run from him.
Senator Obama wants to be President. He not only should leave Wright but also the church.
If Senator Clinton went to a church that supported the KKK and supported it, praised it and even gave donations to it would be a disgrace.
Wake up American youth. Please.
Posted by: Rick from Pa | April 26, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
I thought there was a distinction between church and state. For some Americans to hold a preacher liable for his comments is naivety to a fault. He is a messanger of God’s words and draws his inspiration from God and not from man. When touched or invoked, he reveals the message as it is giving to him, without distortions, without fear or favor. That is the role of a preacher which distinguishes him from a politician. Politicians are full of hope and promises. They say to the public what is pleasing to their ears. Please live the Reverend alone. Enough of your hypocrisies.
Posted by: Damian | April 26, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
“When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.”
Japanese Proverb
Goodbye Mr. Obama…
Posted by: Cal | April 26, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Rev Wright should have been called out a LONG time ago. How does it make Obama “brave” now for saying it? It makes him just another politician who will say what he can to get elected.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 26, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama is afraid of Hillary, he refused to debate in NC and IN. The PA debate was too much for him, Obama had to answer real questions and he failed. Oprah can’t protect Obama all the time.
Posted by: carlson | April 26, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Moyers was a close associate of L. Johnson and was vital in selling the gulf of tonkin story that really got us in the vietnam war. The blood of those 50 thousand heroes on the vietnam momerial is on Mayer’s hands. In Pennsylvania, Obama spent over 12millions of dollars had over 9 thousand tv ads, thousand of mailings and calls and still lost by 10 points. I noticed that many people here are saying that Obama won more states. He won the black dem voters in those states not much else. He is the BLACK candidate only.
Posted by: Russ | April 26, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Ask yourself two hard questions.
If you went to Wright’s church unannounced, would you be made to feel welcome?
And if an ordinary member of Wright’s church came to your church unannounced, how would s/he be treated?
Posted by: Jo | April 27, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
Most of these post are disheartening and based on negative emotions. I know because I am finally posting because my emotions have gotten the best of me by reading how people really feel about other people. It has very little to do with Barack Obama or Rev. Wright. The people who post ignorant words about Reverend Wright are posting based on their life experience and own beliefs. Very often people equate patriotism to millitary service or people who will not criticize an unjust war or people who pretend that our country is perfect and always has been. When I was growing up my mother gave me praise when I deserved it to encourage me and disciplined me when I needed it to make me a better person. The same goes for our country, we should applaud the good to encourage it and be allowed to speak the truth when it is wrong to make it better without being persecuted. When I viewed the PBS interview, I thought for sure that people could understand a man who entered a recently intergrated millitary branch has experienced racism . His experience of being confronted with the fact that a lot of people who were supporting segregation and discriminating jim crow practices in the south were in Church every Sunday and considered themselves devout Christians when he went to W. Virginia from Philadelphia
Posted by: Exhausted | April 27, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
The people who were being discriminated against also considered themselves Christians and sat in Church on Sunday and met at the Church for meetings to overcome the segregated, angry and punitive world they existed in based simply on the color of their skin. Rev. Wright is coming from that era. That is his experience in life. He is not afraid to express his discontent with this country because if they had not have done it then, we would have not won equal rights when we did through the civil rights movement. The problem with Rev. Wright is that he has to progress to now, it is not helpful to make controversial statements to make his point. People should be thankful that he has spent over 30 years trying to help a community where there is drugs, poverty and crime. That message did not end with that one statement that has been looped by the media, but the emphasis was placed on that statement to scare people and get them to react the way that people have reacted. There are people in this country who are born into hereditary generational poverty and exist purely as a statistic for their entire existence. The odds are greater for them to go to prison or become a product of their environment. What is the problem and we often say pull yourself up by your own boot straps. Some people are born with no boots and no hope and are doomed to be one statistic or another. It is sad and painful. I think some people feel better about it by ignoring it or fighting it indirectly. That is why some of the people in our country are angry at Rev. Wright. Not because he served in the Military anf deducated himself to helping the people in a poor community. Do people really believe people will congregate on Sunday to hear evil by the thousands. That message is one of many messages and that one statement has been played as much as possible. It does not end there, but that is where people want it to end. I think the Reverend has learned as he approaches retirement that he himself has done a lot of good, but sometimes one statement that could be said in many different ways would have being saying the same thing and people would actually think about what he is saying and not villanize him. He now has to speak about that because he is now on the stage for all America. This is an opportunity for people to at least try to understand other people. But regardless of what he says, the people who have been dreaming of this moment will speak every chance they get to express their own anger.
Posted by: Exhausted | April 27, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
We have become people who do not realize that we do not shape our own thoughts. Consider the source of the early reporting of this story. The whole world has become a stage and we are all at home voting people off the stage like viewers of a reality show. The media picks the participants and we we only view them as they have been presented to us. 30 years of pastoring a church, do people believe that nearly 8000 people would congregate to hear about hating the country. People have been able to see past this type of distraction because they would like myself want to be one country underneath the surface. I would like to feel like someone can address all people in this country sincerely from a place of love based on diverse experiences. I want to look at the President and see all of us. I attended a town hall meeting and sat with a group of diverse people and we were all excited about the possibility of people improving their lives, even people who are statistically written off or have a jail cell waiting for them at birth but not a grade school, middle school, high school or college education waiting for them. I want those people to have a chance. Our leadership has not understood those people. Rev. Jeremiah Wright is simply being paraded around as media fodder and campaign fodder based on fear and preying on fear of others by those who control the media. I hope that his Church continues to reach out to that commmunity after he retires through a new generation with different experiences than his. How much good has he encouraged in over 30 years while we were not seeking to poke a stick in his eye to encourage doubt about a candidate for presidency. What has he been doing all of these years while we were not judging him. Do you really think these people at his church have existed on hate? I am so glad that I know better and that because of my own experiences I am not shaping my views on slanted media, but from my own diverse experiences and desire to be viewed only as I am, a hard working Ameican who happens to be Black. I and so many people like me continue to try and understand the world as a whole so that we can create a world where we feel like we all feel like we fit and not have to sometimes feel like we are misunderstood. The future generation will be better if they do not allow the internet and media shape their existence. They have an opportunity to create on America and show us how we have hurt each other by words we said and words that we wouldn’t say.
Posted by: Exhausted | April 27, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
The coverage of Rev. Wright and his relationship to Sen. Obama is a disgrace to the American people and demostrates the sorry state to which the media has sunk. The sad part is that the whole world is watching America’s media attempt to destroy and divide the voters on the basis of race and fear, rather than reporting the candidates’ positions on the important issues with which we are confronted like health care, the housing crisis, and soaring gas prices. Fortunately, your lies and slants have been exposed with Rev Wright’s interview with Bill Moyers (as a journalist, he gets an “A”!), so now we see a well educated former Marine filled with courage, honesty, and love for all.
You should all return to school and relearn how to report the news, objectively. We Americans are not as close minded and fearful as you think we are.
Posted by: c m | April 27, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Has anyone here read books by Rev James Cone; Rev wrights black theological mentor? If you haven’t read Rev. James Cone’s books to find out what Rev. Wright believes, preaches and his church scrubbed from his web site. Obama POTUS and Rev. Wright Vice President what a horrible thought. Oh did anyone else see the Los Angeles Times article about Illinois state Senator Obama laundering money $112,000 salary Obama received from a political supporter Robert Blackwell through Obama’s law firm to hide the fact it came from Robert Blackwell who received political monetary favors from Obama totaling $320,000 in Illinois State Grants. Obama committed a crime that is illegal Obama supporters, the DNC and Super-delegates. Obama will eventually be indicted and charged with this crime and others. The DNC, Obama supporters and Super-delegates are giving the election to McCain if Obama is the Democratic Nominee for President. It’s time for Obama to quit before he gets arrested. The people of the Democratic Party, the DNC and Super-delegates need to unite, vote and support Hillary Clinton for President. Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com read her speeches and solutions for real changes that will benefit all American’s. Make donations of your time, phone calls, go door to door and give money generously to her campaign. Hillary has solutions for real substantial changes that will benefit all the people of the USA. http://www.hillaryclinton.com donate and vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Bob4USA | April 29, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am