Teamsters Prez to Obama: ‘End the Mystery’ on NAFTA Meeting

I don’t think there is a comparison between Penn and Goolsbee.
Goolsbee is an unpaid economic adviser who was invited by the Canadian consulate to discuss economics. In that discussion Goolsbee talked about NAFTA. The discussion of what Goolsbee said during that meeting has been disputed by the Canadian government as been inaccurate. Goolsbee is still on the Obama campaign because the original news story had twisted his words.
Penn is a PAID advisor to the Clinton campaign and he was the chief strategist for the campaign. Unlike Goolsbee where the Canadian consulate sought him out, Penn WAS PAID by the Columbian government to lobby on behalf of the Columbian trade agreement.
The circumstances are actually different.

Clinton(s), try to spin it all sorts of ways, no matter what, she got caught in a worse lie than Barak did, things keep pilling up against her, mainly lies, good luck with the lying president
Hi-liar-y….

VOTE FOR WHO YOU THINK WILL DO THE BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY.
IF YOU DO’T VOTE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.
ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT WHO SAID, THIS WHO SAID THAT ,THEY ALL LIE AND YOU ALL KNOW IT.

hopespring52-
The reason Obama said that meeting never took place between Goolsbee and the Canadians, is because it didn’t. It was a casual, informal tour that was taking place where Goolsbee mentioned NAFTA, not on behalf of Obama.
The Clintons on the other hand reached out to Canada and told them to take Hillary Rodham Clinton’s comments with “a grain of salt.”
THE CLINTONS AR HYPOCRITES AND THEY’RE JUST GETTING WHAT THEY DESERVE.

Hillary and Bill Clinton have had a close relationship with Mark Penn for nearly twenty years.
For Hillary to pretend she didn’t know about what kind of work Mark Penn was doing with Colombia is pathetic.
WE’RE NOT IDIOTS, HILLARY!
You and Bill have had shady relationships with foreign countries and I’m sure Colombia is one of them.
RELEASE YOUR LIBRARY DONOR LIST…or is this why you refuse to do so?

GS-
The nineties were before 9/11. Since then, Bill and Hillary have had shady relationships with middle-eastern governments that they are trying to keep under covers. That is why they won’t release their library donor list.
Those donors would in fact have strong persuasion with the United States in a Hillary Clinton Administration.
YOU HAVE TO QUESTION THAT!
Forget the 90s. We will never go back to that era…to much has happened and you need to stop being so naive about it.

Hillary and Bill Clinton have entered shady business relationships with middle eastern governments.
It’s time they released their library donor list so that the American People can see what kind of an administration Hillary would conduct if she wins.
HILLARY, YOU CLAIM YOU ARE THE MOST VETTED…what are you afraid of?

The Clintons have no scrupples about who they deal with as long as they get power and money out of it. they’re willing to destroy their own political party for power…I wouldn’t put it pass them that they would compromise the U.S. national security with these dealings for money.
You guys need to question what kind of people the Clintons are. They are scary.

I have only one thing to say James Hoffa you are no Jimmy Hoffa the union’s in this country are more paid off people.It has been a long time since they have done any thing for the working class they collect your dues and good luke trying to find out about your benefits.

I don’t think her name will be on the ballot but if you want to vote for her go ahead>>>>>>>

Are we all comfortable with Mr. Obama’s assertions that he “lost” all of his records from his time in the Illinois state legislature? Sheesh….I’d love for those babies to turn up. Although the Obamaites would deny that people froze to death on the streets of Chicago because of his “advocacy” to the poor. Wake up! Obama is an empty suit and a liar. Factcheck.org makes it clear that his lies are both more frequent and severe than Senator Clinton’s .

Pennsylvania-
You have a chance to end this now!
Hillary Clinton acts like she’s above the rest of us and doesn’t have to be held accountable for all her poor judgements.
1. Never apologized for sending our troops into war wrecklessly. Now thousands are dead and her excuse is “if I knew then, what I know now.”
2. Hillary has never accepted responsibility for all the jobs lost because of NAFTA. She lied about her support and lobbying for it and purposely blocked opposition to it!
3. And now Hillary is claiming she knew nothing about Penn and Colombia. She has a twenty year old relationship with Penn…she must have know what he was up to, and still she doesn’t fire him.
4. The Clintons have made 100s of thousands of dollars from outsourcing jobs.
5. The Clintons have entered into shady dealings with middle eastern governments…why shouldn’t we believe they would have one with Colombia.
PENNSYLVANIA, YOU NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT!
TO PUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD BE A GROSS INJUSTICE.
YOU CANNOT ALLOW THE CLINTONS TO KEEP THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

This just shows how dumb and uninformed Americans are. The news won’t cover it, but the NAFTA issue has already been exposed as a saboteur in the Canadian Government trying to help the Clintons. If Hoffa and the Teamsters could read they would know this already. The issue has been beat to death and is no doubt being brought back up because staunch Hillary supporters are looking at the MARK PENN issue and saying “But, but, but,b b b b but Obama had that Canadian thing! So what about that?”
PATHETIC and SAD

TRANSPARANCY – NAFTA, Wright, Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Ayers, and Obama. Now there’s change you can believe in, Wright?

Both the Canadian government and Goolsbee agree that the conversation was not as depicted. The paper acknowledged that it got the tip from a Clinton insider. This was part of the ohio/texas kitchen sink strategy, that is all. The Clinton strategy is simple, if you can’t be as good as your opponent, make them look as bad as possible. the truth is optional.

LOuis
What paper was that?

The real Question here should be what does the AFL_CIO think and feel about this?
Where is their response?

Obama is a liar period. He’s just another politician, that claims to be the new kind of politics. He’s not new nor the messiah of hope. Obama is playing the same old dirty tricks to deceive the voters, just like everyone else. Hillary lies but so does Obama, which bothers me more that he comes preaching all the crap about a clean platform and change, but the truth of the matter is that he’s far from it.

I’m thinking that Teamster members would rather hear DIRECTLY from Mr. Hoffa that he’s satisfied that this issue has been addressed to the TEAMSTERS satisfaction.
We already know that TEAMOBAMA is satisfied with their existing response – they just want the issue to go away.
Teamster members may not be satisfied though with a campaign issued statement. They’d probably like to hear directly from Mr. Hoffa.

Change we can believe in.
Housing crisis because of preditory loans we need to change them?Maggie Williams

April, what does it matter if he was a paid or unpaid advisor? He met with the Canadian official in the Canadian Consulate in Chicago, representing the Obama campaign. He told them not to worry about Obama’s political posturing against NAFTA. Obviously Hoffa is not happy with how Obama handled this.

Hillary’s campaign is full of bs. Her top strategist working for Columbia to help with free trade which sends more of PA’s jobs overseas helps to prove HRC’s pro stance on NAFTA. Another one of her top paid advisors is linked with Columbia (Wolfson) and know reports are coming in showing a link between foreign governments and there 30 million dollars worth of donations to the Clinton library. The Clintons will not open up the records for the library because of this. Hillary is full of it.

Hillary’s campaign is full of bs. Her top strategist working for Columbia to help with free trade which sends more of PA’s jobs overseas helps to prove HRC’s pro stance on NAFTA. Another one of her top paid advisors is linked with Columbia (Wolfson) and know reports are coming in showing a link between foreign governments and there 30 million dollars worth of donations to the Clinton library. The Clintons will not open up the records for the library because of this. Hillary is full of it.

You guys need to do your research. If you check the Canadian News you will see that it was the Clinton Campaign that gave the “wink and nod” to Canada. The reporting that it was the Obama campaign was a political stunt. The truth has already been exposed. Try to educate yourself on the issue first.

Darth
The media is conspiring to give bad press to the puppet. Come on!

By the way does anyone believe that Obama’s State Senate records were lost?
Why is it tranparent for Hillary to release her records from her time as First Lady when Obama is hiding his records from his terms in the State Senate. Why doesn’t the media put out a drumbeat of requests like they did for Hillary’s tax returns and records?
I’m waiting for the press to hold Obama to the standards that Hillary is held to…

G:
The way you make things up, you must be a democrat.

I’m amazed at how many people truly believe what they read or hear in the media and take it as fact.

What a bunch of liars. Thank god the Obama campaign plays clean and walks the moral higher ground. Yeah, right.
There is no hope for change with Obama.

Obamaall… what you dont seem to get is that the comparison is not Goolsbee and Penn… the comparison is Clinton and Obama… it is not about what their employees believe and do… it is about how they handle it when it disagrees with their platforms…. Obama fails to do anything punitive but Clinton did. Looking deeper into the issues you can even greater concerns about Obama and what he stands for. Bush spoke out of both sides of his mouth and Obama is proving to be just another Bush.

G – posting things with backwards chronology doesnt make it true. But then you are a student of Obama so I wont blame you, I blame the teacher.

G – Yourtimeline is somewhat correct in what you posted for that time. Facts: The Canadian Government TOLD the Canadian Ambassador, Wilson in Washington, to deny story in an effort to STAY OUT of American politics. However, the Associated Press, show that it was Austan D. Goolsbee, a professor of economics at the University of Chicago who is Mr. Obama’s senior economic policy adviser, met officials last month at the Canadian consulate in Chicago.

G – LOL.

Linda Taylor – Great post. Hope you don’t mind if I steal some of your ideas to crush some of those Obama dead beats?

I just saw Obama questioning General Petraeus. His stance on Iraq sure has changed. He’s sounding more and more like McCain. I wonder why his followers aren’t noticing that he’s abandoning them.
Meanwhile, Hillary looks like she’d been rode hard and put away wet.

Every politican lies. The media spins things. It’s time to start diserning what is fact, and what is fiction. Obama supporters can’t keep denying things he’s involved in. Admit it, like the Clinton supporters and move on. Obviously those involvements don’t deter you from supporting him, but stop bashing McCain and Clinton when your candidate has his own baggage.

A prominent Southern California university has developed a scientific test to determine when Hillary is lying. After exhaustive testing in the field, this test is now 100% accurate. It’s developers have been awarded the Noble Prize for their historic breakthrough in the field of Mendacity Determination. The test works like this: if Hillary’s lips are moving, she is lying.

Obama is a politican, he lies as well then tries to backtrack and make excuses.

I hope that if he did lie. it would be that we (u.s.a.)will not be bringing our jobs back home.

Hillary is such a DRAMA QUEEN!wHEN SHE GETS CAUGHT SHE TRIES TO DRAG OBAMA INTO IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER to make him look worse than her but the comparison only makes her situation look by far worse. TAKE THE BLOWS WOMAN AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT EVERYTHING!

1. Bosnia lie
2. Half of the 10% charity into their “Family Foundation”
3. Distortion of pregnant woman’s story in Ohio
4. Mark Penn’s involvement with Colombian officials
5. Constantly playing the victim and gender card
6. “As far as I know” comment
7. Labeling Richardson as a traitor
8. Trying to BUY votes by threatening Pelosi
9. Stirring up Wright issue to deflect her Tuzla LIE
10. Continually playing up that McCain is a better CIC and a patriot than Obama

But as the Canadian reports have made clear, the core of the story was false. The Canadian government contacted Goolsbee to clarify Obama’s position on trade, not the reverse. Although Goolsbee did talk on February 8 with Canada’s Chicago consul general (not, as was originally reported, the Canadian ambassador), there’s no evidence that he ever described Obama’s position as mere political posturing. They met before NAFTA began to dominate the campaign, and discussed the trade agreement for two to three minutes out of almost an hour. Goolsbee responded to Canadian questions by clarifying that Obama wasn’t pushing to scrap NAFTA entirely, but that the agreement needed labor and environmental safeguards–exactly what Obama had been saying in public. The memo was simply inaccurate, as even the Harper government now acknowledges after a firestorm of criticism by opposition parliament members who’ve accused Harper’s staffers of trying to help their Republican political allies. In response, Harper said, “there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA

Obama says he’s a good poker player. All good poker players are good liars. Therefore, Obama is a good liar.
Sounds logical to me. What do you think?

Dogsoldier: “CWatson – Canadians worried about NAFTA. Perhaps you did not know that Canada is our number one oil supplier, number one gas supplier, number one foreign electricity supplier, number one light metal supplier, number one heavy mental supplier. Our natural gas and oil from Alaska comes down through Alberta, Canada. What in God’s name does Canada have to worry about? Canada wants t reopen NAFTA in order to sell their oil to China and India, better prices. Do you know anything?”
I currently reside in Canada.
1. NAFTA is a trade agreement relating the US, Canada & Mexico – no other countries. Canada is a sovereign country who determines their own laws, trade policies, etc. Canada can sell oil or whatever they want at whatever price they want to China, India or whoever they want.
2. Your own post makes my point: Canada enjoys a tremendous trade surplus with the US. Any reopening of NAFTA puts that surplus as risk with a very low expectation that they can improve on it and wind up with a higher surplus. That’s why they don’t want NAFTA reopened. They have a lot to lose. And that’s why Obama wants to reopen it – the US has little to lose.

Ok, last time on Mr. Obama, the memo, Mrs. Clinton and NAFTA. The Canadian Embassy issued a statement regarding the memo leaked to the Associated Press that included an apology and said “…there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA.”
BUT the assertion that the Chief of Staff to the Canadian Prime Minister Ian Brodie said in a room full of CTV News people that the Clinton Campaign Contacted the Canadians about NAFTA telling them not to worry about her newfound opposition to it has not been retracted. The Canadian parliament, with the exception one assumes of the Canadian version of neo-conservatives, wants a full investigation. Some just want Brodie to resign.
Further Mrs. Clinton worked on behalf of NAFTA as revealed in her papers and supported it without apparent qualification as recently as her last senate campaign.
This is really as thorough a debunking of a story as is possible. The fact that Mark Penn’s attempt to talk up another trade deal in the backroom had a significant impact on his career is just gravy. Naturally if you are a certain kind of Clinton supporter or Republican pretend-supporter you can just paw the earth, bark “Wright” a lot and lick yourself rather than face these unpleasant facts; but at least now you have options.

Amazing. During any election all candidates favor closed borders. They all oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, NAFTA, gun control, higher taxes and party politics.
They all want a balanced budget, strong defense, end to government waste, election reform, cheaper fuel, an end to pollution, a chicken in every pot and a steak on every grill.
That’s election year. The rest of the time they vote for amnesty, promote NAFTA, pass gun control laws, raise taxes, and play party politics. If they balance the budget it’s done by cutting defense.
Obama and Hillary both favor NAFTA regardless of their claims. Hillary is opposed to private ownership of firearms and Obama makes her look like the president of the NRA. Both vote for higher taxes and oppose everything attached to a Republican.
Not that McCain is much better.

Ohplease…the article you quote is an old one – it came out since that it was the Clinton campaign who gave the ‘wink wink’ on NAFTA…and NOT the Obama Campaign. And, just so you know? While the story was squashed in the US news media, the weekend before the Canadian/NAFTAgate issue erupted in Ohio, Bill Clinton spent the weekend in Cananda with Belinda Strochan (I think that’s the spelling) – who is connected with the Prime Minister’s Office.

Nancy, factcheck wrote the article, and the name of the website is not just a play on words. There was a memo from Goolsbee. It is sited in the article. It is not inaccurate just because it’s from March 4th. They research everything. It is an unbiased website. The fact is Goolsbee had this conversation and an AP reporter was there.

I am a Canadian who have always followed the USA presidential nomination race from beginning to end. This race is even more interesting on the Democratic side. For verification on the NAFTA issue, the Prime Minister’s Office in Canada issued a statement, making it clear that the details of the memo did not clearly depict what was discussed in the meeting. Plus the so-call memo was past on by a member of Senator Clinton’s team to the paper. I had sensed a left wing conspiracy i.e. Senator Clinton, “It is a Republican right wing conspiracy. I do not see the need for the issue to be revisited. However, if the voters would like clarification then Senator Obama should offer the Canadian government’s response. I am amazed that Senator Clinton would still continue to make false statements as she did on CNN earlier, when she said she was ready for a revote to be done in Florida and Michigan but Senator Obama was not. Prior to her facing the critical task of falling out of the race she had taken a different stance on the matter in agreeing that the DNC should punish both states but is now saying that Senator Obama is disenfranchising the voters. She thought it would have been over by Super-Tuesday. Senator Obama said he would like both states’ delegates to be seated but in a fair manner. He had even said he was open to a revote under the DNC’s guidelines so how can Senator Clinton keep on making these false statements. On the Mark Penn issue, Senator Clinton knew long before Mr. Penn and his firm were hired on her campaign team, that both entity were involved in the business of lobbying the American government against the interest of the voters, yet she took them on. Something to say about sound judgment and wisdom. I am surprise that she could not see the possibility of a conflict of interest. Even what is more sad is that Mr. Penn and his firm is still on the payroll. Are there issues that the voters are not getting a clear picture of from Senator Clinton political relationships?. Mr. Goolsbee was not and is not on Senator Obama’s campaign team payroll, that is the difference. Sorry folks but Senator Clinton have mis-spoken, mis-represent and mis-identified on too many matters. All these “mis” account to a habit which in the real world is referred to as lies. So far, she has mis-administrate / mis-manage her campaign. Are these the qualities you desire in your president / commander and chief?

Hillary used the pronouncements of Sen Obama’s adviser to score a gratuitous win in the primary in labor-conscious Ohio. Any caution that the adviser voiced his opinion that may not represent the policies of Sen Obama did not cut it with the Clintons.
It remains to be seen if Sen Obama’s campaign willl use the shenanigans of Sen Clinton’s adviser agaist her in labour-conscious Pennyslvania.
Will the Obama campaign stop being so nice? In the wild west of politics, a vicious rattler certainly calls for some tough action …

Hillary Rodham Clinton wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. She had better hope they don’t study her recent campaign too closely for the answer. Clinton has overseen two major staff shake-ups in two months. She has left a trail of unpaid bills and unhappy vendors and had to loan her own campaign $5 million to keep it afloat in January. Her campaign badly underestimated her main adversary, Barack Obama, miscalculated the importance of organizing caucus states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday. The Clinton campaign has been marked by strategic missteps, financial uncertainty and personnel drama. Its strengths — a supremely disciplined candidate and remarkable fundraising — have been undermined by other aspects of the enterprise, such as a headstrong, factionalized staff and a spendthrift approach. The conventional wisdom once held that it was Bill Clinton who was chronically improvisational and unable to run a tight ship. That flaw, it seems, runs in the family.It would be easy to dismiss all of this as fairly conventional political stumbling — if she hadn’t made her supreme readiness and managerial competence the central issue of her presidential campaign. .. “Any time you are involved in a long campaign, there are going to be major substantive and procedural gaffes,” says former Democratic Rep. David Bonior, an uncommitted superdelegate who served as the campaign manager to John Edwards. “The question is how a campaign handles those gaffes and how a candidate handles them. And I think it’s fair to say that Sen. Obama has handled [his] problems better than Sen. Clinton.” Clinton’s defenders argue that the relatively smooth-running Obama operation obscures the reality that the first-term Illinois senator is an untested, naive politician who showed little spine or genius during his unremarkable four years in the U.S. Senate. Clinton loyalists think the Obama story has a predictable conclusion: He gets torn apart by a ruthless GOP and crushed in the general election. But, it is also true that a fair measurement of the candidates’ leadership skills is their management of their campaign. Easily the largest enterprise they have run in their lives — in February alone, Obama had 1,280 paid employees, at a cost of $2.61 million; Clinton had 935 employees and a monthly payroll of $1.63 million — the campaign reveals flaws and strengths that will only be magnified in the Oval Office.
‘politico’

I am an independent voter. I’ve been asking this question for months and I’ll take this opportunity to ask it again. Hey, Barack Obama!! Where’s the beef??