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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., continued to try and use the Weather Underground to rain on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., telling conservative bloggers in a conference call today that Obama needs to repudiate William Ayers, apologize to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to Ayers (as an example of a friend with whom Obama disagrees), and to apologize to the American people for his relationship with Ayers, "an unrepentant terrorist."
The presumptive GOP frontrunner expresses surprise that the media is making more out of Obama’s relationship with Rev. Wright than his relationship with Ayers.
Town Hall, the American Spectator, Human Events, Commentary and others are up and running with the comments.
McCain — unlike the husband of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., who commuted the jail sentences of two members of the Weather Underground — seems eager to bring this subject up, as he did on This Week with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday.
- jpt
UPDATE: Obama spox Bill Burton writes to say, "We want to take Senator McCain at his word that he wants to run a respectful campaign, but that is becoming increasingly difficult when he continually tries to use the politics of association and makes claims he knows not to be true to advance his campaign. This type of politics of division and distraction, not only lead to a campaign not worthy of the American people, but also has failed to help our families for too long."
McCain spox Brian Rogers responds: "Senator Obama was introduced to the local political scene at the home of an unrepentant terrorist, William Ayers, with whom he has had a friendship for many years. Mr. Ayers was a leader of the Weather Underground, a terrorist group responsible for countless bombings against targets including the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and numerous police stations, courthouses and banks. In recent years, Mr. Ayers has stated, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs . . . I feel we didn’t do enough.’ Then last week, Senator Obama went so far as to compare this unrepentant terrorist to Senator Tom Coburn, a physician who goes home to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life. Surely the American people agree that judgment matters in our next president. Senator Obama’s long association with an unrepentant terrorist is an issue of judgment, and it will absolutely be an issue in this election."
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It’ll be interesting for sure. You can bet Obama will come prepared.I hope the press can take the heat! This will be better than the debate.
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Posted by: Thinking | April 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I find it ridiculous, and another example of the media fawning over Obama, that they all harped on a benign comment by Hillary on Bosnia, but continue to ignore a real threat and danger of Obama’s relationship with a terrorist. Which one do you suppose has a more likely threat to destroy our country? It is sad that his followers continue to be blind and refuse to ask questions of this dangerous liar, Obama.
Posted by: doublestandard | April 25, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
NOTE: It’s Bill A-Y-E-R-S. Easier to google if you spell it right.
McCain says “Obama needs to repudiate [A-Y-E-R-S], apologize to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to [A-Y-E-R-S] (as an example of a friend with whom Obama disagrees), and to apologize to the American people for his relationship with [A-Y-E-R-S], “an unrepentant terrorist.”
Hahaha. Ayers-Obama is all about Exelon, not Weatherman, which shut down the American left (along with providing some rollicking good fun, no doubt, for the corporate scions who ran it, most likely doing dirty work — sabotaging the sixties cultural and political revolution — for their daddies).
If crazy clown McCain manages to get people looking into the Ayers family, Obama really IS done — though we can expect that McCain’s nutty pronouncements are meant to HELP Obama.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
I agree “doublestandard”. At least Hillary went to Bosnia and many other countries. She met the people, learned new things, offered support.
Obama’s lies/associations threaten the security of our country.
Posted by: cindy in nc | April 25, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
John McCain=George Bush
Therefore I would like to ask: who even listens to these morons anymore?
Obama is a terrorist? Is that the idea?
We’ve actually sunk to the point where our presidential candidates accuse each other of being potential terrorists?! What a complete joke.
Welcome to Orwell’s America, you spineless right wing sheep. Clinton and McCain have shown themselves unworthy of the presidency even before the race begins.
Posted by: mg | April 25, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Clinton and McCain are two sides of the same corrupt insider coin. I don’t see a choice here.
Want more of the same politics of personal destruction and wanton mendacity?
Let’s make it easy:
Clinton/McCain 08… TOGETHER AT LAST!
Posted by: rick | April 25, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
McCain is the puppet, Corporate America is the puppet master.
The puppet says what the puppeteer wishes.
That’s how you wind up with a decent fellow like John McCain saying these idiotic things on a daily basis. It’s embarrassing.
Posted by: tank | April 25, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
obama is unamerican and chums with unamerican types. he will never be president and can never command the respect of the us armed forces.
a democrat i will vote for mccain before i ever will vote for obama
Posted by: ron | April 25, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
obama is unamerican and chums with unamerican types. he will never be president and can never command the respect of the us armed forces.
a democrat i will vote for mccain before i ever will vote for obama
Posted by: ron | April 25, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I have lost ALL respect for McCain. He was going to be all about the issues and now he is not.
He is a LIAR.
Posted by: Stacey | April 25, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Desperately up against a man with obvious gifts and clear potential to be a great president both Clinton and McCain are using the same small minded tactics against him. They contrast poorly to him as potential leaders and so both are trying to put up a smokescreen of dirt, innuendo and lies. Obama has struck a clear bell that this country’s been dying to hear!
Posted by: J Robinson | April 25, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Before accusing those we disagree with of terrorism we should ask what our government has been doing in resource rich developing countries. I am afraid we side with all those who make it easier for us to get the resources we need. We do not seem to care that many innocent civilians pay with their lives so we get what we want. How can we, with a clear conscience, accuse others of terrorism?
Posted by: worldsam | April 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Thinking…..It will be beyond interesting if Obama is as unprepared as we was in PA. He thought he was going to get the usual soft questions that the other moderators had given him, and came out looking like an unprepared rookie. Obama is noway prepared to run this country! I’m black and I’ll never cast a vote for him.
Posted by: Jason | April 25, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
There is a serious problem of age in this election which should not be taken lightly and has to be an issue. Here we have running for the Presidency in an age of technology folks born prior to and of age during World WarII 1938 and 1947. They cannot connect and are blind and have no vision for America but are in the category of the old type politicians that rather than address practical solutions chase after Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers who are not running for President. I am glad Obama is distinguishable from these two old fogies.
Posted by: harriet | April 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
“Why is he saying that he has “street cred”?”
Must mean Wall Street.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Debates have lost their integrity with that crap that was shown on for 45 minutes at the last debate. It has become a tool for Hillary to get the attention she lacks at rally’s. This woman needs to realize she has talent for hollywood which is her true calling. A great actress. I am sick of her theatrics and will not watch another cockylaney debate on the same issues as during the last 20.
Posted by: Paul | April 25, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Let’s a discuss the issues here and there are many and this is not one of them how about tyhe standard of living???? what about health care, education, housing and a number of other issues that affect us.
Posted by: lyates | April 25, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Let us discuss the issues here and there are many and this is not one of them how about the standard of living???? what about health care, education, housing and a number of other issues that affect us.
Posted by: lyates | April 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Beware North Carolinians and Indianians….Obama lied and just a Politician.
Mr. Wright, CNN interview, said Obama condemned his comments about american because Obama is a Politician. Yeah right, Obama wants to get away with it condemning Wirght’s comments to get oput of trouble and still fool the Americans and the younger voters. Good job lying Obama. You don’t tale responsibility for your action. You are a disgrace for all North Carolinians and Indianians. What’s new? Obama lied just like Wright, Rezco and Ayers and he will continue to lie and overspent the voter’s money just to win but still the loser.
Richardson suddenly came out at CNN after Hillary won Pennsylvannia. Why are you afraid? Yes you are because f Hilalry wins your personal ambition and interest will disappear. Richardson cannot be trusted and a traitor. Don’t vote for him when runs for a Senator. He belongs to Wright, Rezco and Ayer who join any group or fraternity where he will benefit and not the Americans.
Obama’s motto and theme should be Pay per Vote. Obama overspent in Pennsylvannia and still came out the loser.
Look at the facts as to how strong Hillary is:
Obama lost in Pennsylvannia in spite of endorsement by a Senator and overspending in ads, 5 to 1.
Obama lost in Texas and Ohio even overspending in ads and manipulating info in Ohio.
Obama lost in California even though Oprah, Maria Shriver, and Katherine Kennedy endorsed him.
Obama lost Massachusetts even though Kennedy and John Kerry endorsed him.
Hillary won the big states and has more electoral college votes to date than Obama that is crucial in November.
Obama lost the big states even though the media is most of the time unfair with Hillary and always positive to Obama.
Wake up superdelegates! You will make the right choice if you pick Hillary.
Obama mocked the Pennsylvannians and the entire nation, which is so irresponsible and very degrading to all Americans. He is just like Wright who mocked the Americans and like Rezco and Ayers who we can’t trust.
Before you can have CHANGE, we first need SOLUTIONS and that is HILLARY.
Wake up superdelegates!
Posted by: Alfredo | April 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Obama’s Judgment is Questionable.
His Friends he choose to surround himself with over the past 20 years. A Normal person would avoid like the plague.
His best friend and mentor, the one he bounced all his political ideas off of over the years seems to harbor so much hate for this country and wants the government to pay.
His terrorist friend who is still does not like the government, who he still associates with.
His crimanal friend who set people up in government positions and riped money off , who used Muslims money to help buy obamas house and donate to his campaign.
He choose his friends, knowing their views and ideas. all of whom have vengeance for this country or government.
That is who’s hands you want to put this countries in?
He is a smooth talk like a high pressure salesman, used car salesman like a preacher. There to talk you into anything.
Posted by: seah | April 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Jerry, you wrote: “Obama is permitted to be friends with anti-American pastors and terrorists who attack this country.”
You are right! But we have just as much of a right to cite his bad judgement in rejecting him in his bid to become President of the United States.
Posted by: James Danley | April 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Sorry Alfredo, I am a Hoosier and we are not that simple minded. We know the game of the politicans and we are not falling for that BS. You people trey to paint Obama as anything but a child of God and we know that he is a child of God as all of us are. So don’t fool yourself because you can not fool us, we know better. Oh, I forgot we Obama suppoters are a Cult or is it that we drink the kool-aid?
Posted by: Emilianna | April 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Let the Swiftboating begin. If these are terrorists, why have the cops not arrested them? Obama was in pre-school and early elementaty scholl when these people were active. I guess he aided them at recess. Suddenly McCain starts to look less presidential.
Posted by: DennisNC | April 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
“In recent years, Mr. Ayers has stated, ‘I don’t regret setting bombs . . . I feel we didn’t do enough.’”
Spoken like a man who enjoys some kind of infinite protection from the right. Must be that EXELON family thing …
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
This is really ridiculous. Senator Obama has gone on record saying that he is not “friends” with Ayers and never has been. They run in the same circles, they know each other socially. I’ve been involved with progressive groups and I know there were “radical” types in that group with whom I did not necessarily share every single viewpoint. It’s unavoidable to have some interactions with people who may have unsavory pasts or views that you don’t share. As a baby boomer roughly the same age as Senator Obama, I had NEVER heard of William Ayers or his wife until I saw a documentary about the Weather Underground in 2002, an art-house flick that wasn’t given wide release. Until this became “news” I would imagine that most people under the age of 50 had no clue who Bill Ayers is. It’s important to keep in mind that there were plenty of 60s radicals who engaged in civil disobedience (deemed criminal by “the authorities”) in an effort to end the war and expose political corruption — dissent is NOT unpatriotic. It’s important to note that Ayers’ group (while he was involved) never killed anyone and was always careful to make sure no one was hurt when they planted bombs. Was he wrong for what he did? Yes, of course; no one excuses that. But that was 40 years ago, it was a crazy time in our nation’s history, and he has emerged from that to become a decent person by all accounts. There’s no reason that Senator Obama should be required to give any further explanation on this — he has addressed it satisfactorily, as far as I’m concerned. Whatever political views Ayers held, or holds now, it’s NOT Senator Obama’s fault. He’s made it clear he does not have a close association with Ayers and that he disagrees strongly with the acts and tactics that Weather Underground engaged in. What more could he do? Isn’t this enough? As for the “Hamas” endorsement, they are going to endorse anyone who is opposed to continued US presence in Iraq, obviously, and would moreover be impressed by his understanding of the underlying issues behind the middle east conflict, the need to address the role of oppression and economic deprivation as it has fueled fundamentalism, and the fact that, unlike McCain, he does not believe these issues will be resolved by bombing the entire middle east back to the stone age. Having Hamas’ endorsement does not mean that Senator Obama agrees with their tactics or their goals. He can repudiate their tactics and goals, but he can’t make them NOT endorse him.
Posted by: stsw531 | April 25, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
if ayers was a terrorist, why is he walking the streets?… something doesn’t jive here people… wake up
and if you think obama is a terrorist sympathizer you are really stupid
Posted by: earthisnotflat | April 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
How can people not view this man as a self-seeking fraud. On one moment he condemns swiftboat-like activity, in the next he engages in it himself.
Reality = John MCain and the republicans are scared (very scared) of running against Obama.
The Swiftboats are coming, and they will come between now and the Democratic convention. Republicans want Hillary to win badly.
Posted by: Mike Denhof | April 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Amazing, bill rocker. So Hawaii, California and NYC are not “really ” America. I guess you have to live in a trailer in the Deep South to be a real Amurikan.
Posted by: DennisNC | April 25, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground. If you don’t think they were a terrorist organization, then you must look them up. Ayers got off on a technicality and has never repented and, in fact, makes it sound like he’d do it again. The two who Bill Clinton pardoned and/or commuted served time and repented.
What bothers me more is just like, Rezko and Wright, Obama is not forthright when he is first asked about these people. Then slowly but surely the truth about his relationships with them comes out. Ayers, who lives near Obama, raised money for Obama’s first campaign and yet Obama says he barely knows the man. That is scary in and of itself. Is the man naive? Does he have poor judgment? Why would he want to be around this people and have them influence anything about him?
Posted by: sarnorton | April 25, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Say what you want, this is a relevant topic. It’s not swiftboating. People want to know why Obama has continued a relationship with a person who was a terrorist in the past, and has not disowned such activities.
I, too, am surprised that the big deal was made about Wright when this was ignored. It is far worse for Obama’s campaign.
And EarthIsNotFlat, Ayres got out on a technicality after living in hiding for many years and then turning himself in. I actually am starting to wonder whether Obama is a terrorist sympathizer to some extent – obviously, not fully.
Posted by: JA | April 25, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
“It’s important to note that Ayers’ group (while he was involved) never killed anyone and was always careful to make sure no one was hurt when they planted bombs.”
Ayers’ GIRLFRIEND was among the townhouse explosion casualties, for heaven’s sake. He and Dohrn “went underground”, wound up married. Not many people — that we know about, anyway — got blown up during the period, but a LOT of people were injured, mostly by police. (Weatherman’s blowing up the Haymarket police memorial — TWICE: it was rebuilt, and they blew it up AGAIN — brought down insane repression and police brutality on EVERYBODY who was in the streets for any reason.)
There’s no excuse to be completely uninformed about the Weathermen. Just go google it — you can be sure every single person in the right wing, along with many Democrats, is reading up on the Weatherpeople. (For extra credit, google COINTELPRO. :^)
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
There are some Obama supporters who make comments which are not based on fact and then accuse others of being too judgmental. For instance, Uretha wrote that Bill Clinton pardoned Ayers -talk about really getting it wrong – and stws531 doesn’t even know that Ayers had Obama over to his home to raise money for him. How can people take such positions and be so ignorant? It’s one thing to like a candidate, but at least get your facts correct.
Posted by: sarnorton | April 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
McCain is being insincere here. Obama went to Ayers’ house once, for a professional political meeting in 1995. He didn’t chose the setting nor the company. If McCain wants to build an image of positive campaigning, he needs to stop this silliness.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | April 25, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Lerpkin, I guess you’ll be puking for the next 4 years after McCain wins the whitehouse. I actually thought the GOP was done, but after the continuing sparring by Obama and Clinton, McCain is a breath of fresh air. The dems have done this to themselves and have no one to blame but themselves. GO McCAIN!!!!
Posted by: Al | April 25, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
all you republican “truth seekers” wouldn’t know a lie if it hit you in the face… your own leaders of your political party are UNSURPASSED at lying… and associating with REAL terrorists… look at Osama bin Laden and his support from the the Bush’s and the oil industry… your lying leaders have been propping up terrorists for decades … please, stop the swiftboating, it will only backfire
Posted by: earthisnotflat | April 25, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Now they want to hush McCain up, he must not mention Ayres, Hamas or anything else. Well McCain is correct judgment is important, and he is also correct it telling the media that what he saying are facts and he will not take back his statements.
Good for you McCain don’t be a push over for those that seem to be in the tank for Obama.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
so finally a criticism that can’t be blamed on hillary :)
Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | April 25, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
The media totally ignored that there are young men in the Gaza strip calling people in the USA to donate fund to Obama, but now they want to make a big deal because McCain mentioned that Hama endorsed Obama.
AL Jeezera did the news bit on these men working the phone and the MSM in the US fell asleep on this. Voters can make their own judgment on all this, and question what they see for themselves, but by the MSM trying to hide it does not make it go away.
The Internet is a open book so try as much as MSM can to stop things from coming out on Obama it still does.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Some of the above posted comments above for all sides are childish and unhelpful. Associations with Ayres and Write are legitimate concerns for McCain and Clinton to raise. They are part of the picture in discerning Obama’s character. However, they are only part of the picture. It would be unwise to dismiss Obama on account of these associations alone. However, Obama’s proposed policies are as farther left than any major Candidate for president that I have ever seen. The combination of leftist public policy and extremely leftist friends, make me wonder were Obama’s heart beliefs really lie.
Posted by: marcus toole | April 25, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
This guy Obama asked us to elect him as the president of our country, but does not allow us to question his character and judgement. I do think character and judgement are very important ISSUES if for a president!
Posted by: Andy | April 25, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Patriots do not lead a country into war based on a false premise. Patriots do not let four thousand soldiers die for oil. Patriots do not send jobs overseas. If people who have done all these are accepted as patriots why are we going after pastor Wright? What have we got against him that makes us loathe him?
Posted by: worldsam | April 25, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
I fail to understand why the media cannot see that many Democrats will never be able to vote for Obama. It isn’t about Hillary… wake up — it is about the unanswered questions about Obama. Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan, Rezko, who else do we not know about. How can anyone not think Obama has some of Wright’s views. People don’t pour out their hearts and pocketbooks for decades for causes they don’t believe in. I keep hearing more and more Democrats say that they are unable to support Obama and that McCain would be a safer decision if given the choice. Obama has squandered the chance for the Democrats to reclaim the White House. Obama — you’re the most detestable political figure in my lifetime.
Posted by: David | April 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
why is it that obama,change has to apply to way he is thinking, & insulting them for not following his views and his way in the sand. come on Obama change the way u r winning, or losing. Obama wake up to reality. The rest of us are. He seemed great at first but very weakend over the last couple of months.
Posted by: mary | April 25, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Look, these people are politicians. They are professional spin Dr.’s. They lie, they misdirect, they embelish and they apologize when something they say angers the masses. If you are looking for integrity, honesty and “straight talk” politics ISN’T where your going to find it. “The only way to fix it is to flush it all away”.
Posted by: outofbodyexp | April 25, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
SJ writes:
“The Internet is a open book so try as much as MSM can to stop things from coming out on Obama it still does.”
Where Obama is concerned, the Internet is becoming LESS of an open book, every day. “Obama’s Exelon ties merit close look”, by Jay Hancock in the Baltimore Sun, for example, is only a month old, but is no longer accessible — and the REAL story about Obama-Axelrod-Ayers is EXELON, not the Weathermen. (Note: is Axelrod conspicuously missing from soundbyte society lately?)
The same is true of a lot of articles about Acevedo, the P.R. governor with the Obama-like schtick (who was at Harvard Law at the same time), who was recently indicted for mobstering around with elections. One wouldn’t be surprised if the same should turn out to be true of Deval Patrick, the Axelrod production who’s having so much trouble being Governor of Massachusetts.)
A way to find SOME of this information is to look for a search-engine “cache” page at google, livesearch, ask.com, or wherever.
Looking to the future, it might not be a bad idea to save webpage info that seems likely to disappear …
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Maybe the media feels that they are doing Obama some good by not brining all this to light. Maybe for some it will not matter, but to me and am sure am not alone, I just don’t feel comfortable with Obama’s associations.
He has never given a good answer for them, and when it come up so many are always ready to kill the story, and throw the issue back to Hillary and now McCain that as a voter it does make me wonder why they keep doing that.
It makes me very uncomfortable and not secured in voting for Obama if he was the nominee, I would rather take my chances with McCain at least I would not have to worry about some group be it racists or a terror group having some kind of hold on the POTUS.
Posted by: SJ | April 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
SIMPLE: OBAMA HAS A CLEAN RECORD!! THEREFORE THE DESPERADOS MY FRIENDS ALL THEY HAVE TO USE AS PUNCH LINES IS ASSOCIATION -BLAMING HIM FOR THE ACTS OF OTHERS WHICH IS NO MEASURE OF JUSTICE NOR INTELLIGENT THINKING – BUT GREAT PROPAGANDA FOR THOSE WHO ARE EASILY LED BY PAPAARAZZI!
Posted by: JUDITH | April 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
undecided2012,
Bill Clinton commuted the sentences of both Rosenberg and Evans. They had done 17-18 years of their sentences already. They were sentenced to someting like 40-58 years. They were contrite for their violent past and expressed that. Also, commutation was based on the selective prosecution of them and the disparate sentences. Note, Ayers never did any time and Dohrn did about 7 months. Ayers and Dohrn were definite leaders in the Weather Underground. Ayers was called the “rich kid radical.” His father was the CEO of Com Edison in Chicago and on all kids of Boards. He was a very influential and powerful person. I suspect that had everything to do with the disparate treatment of his son and Dohrn, his daughter in law.
While the serious charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dismissed based on “illegal surveillance,” I have my own ideas about that.
Note also, neither Ayers or Dohrn have ever expressed any remourse about the bombings. Also, threee fo their own did die and one lifetime prosecutor was paralyzed due to their actions.
I do not see anything wrong with the commutations. I have worked on such matters myself.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 25, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Well than watch FOX this Sunday and see what happens. They will have their chance and no one can call foul, whatever happens.
He presents himself to FOX, IE the Republican Party, Hillary, Whoever, if Fox doesn’t ask the questions America is asking who will?
If he gets creamed you will have your day.
I think it will be very interesting.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 25, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
One more time…in the end you are known by the company you keep. Of course the Obama campaign wants to take the higher ground but it ain’t going to work. He is unknown to most Americans, so our knowledge of him is aided by his associations. This has nothing to do with who said what but most people would like to know who your friends are esp. if you are running for the highest office in the land.
As for Pres. Clinton pardoning two of the Weatherman…so what…they were young and foolish. However most people will be swayed by these associations…ya know it takes a lot of time and effort to follow these races…and the majority of Americans will never know what is really true from just the sound bite caught during a free moment. We political junkies who take the time to read these blogs and post are a very small slice of the population.
What will be remembered in the voting booth will be the associations of one relatively unknown candidate. If the press had done their job early on and vetted Obama he would never be in this position. So I blame the Press for failing miserably in letting the American people know these relationships early on…but that would have been viewed as racist I surmise so here we are with a very divided Democratic Party…and if Fla and Mich. are not counted well I would bet my first born that folks will be leaving that Party in droves.
Posted by: LL Barra | April 25, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Association certainly counts when it comes to the president of US. In his recent speech at a rally in Indiana, Sen Obama said “…more than one hundred workers in Logansport, Indiana who just found out that their company has decided to move its entire factory to Taiwan.” It turns out the manufacturer is closing plants but not relocating anywhere. Also, the manufacturer has plants in Thailand, but not Taiwan. Wrong information! Wrong statement! How are we going to count on a president who is far from ready and whose association is also far from ready?
Posted by: Vickie | April 25, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“Obama has squandered the chance for the Democrats to reclaim the White House.”
Nah. All Obama’s “squandered” is his integrity, and untold millions of dollars. The Democrats can nominate John Edwards — Clinton might be RELIEVED to go along with that.
If Pelosi, Clyburn et al. keep it up, and bully Obama into the nomination — because it’s “racism” not to hand him the nomination (even if he’s lied like a rug to get to where he is in the primary process) — the Democratic “leadership” is going to lose.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I think you guys are going to pop a blood vessel soon.
I would think you all would be happy that he is going to FOX for an interview?
But it sounds like you think he has already won that one.
What gives?
Obmama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 25, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Worldsam — Check and see what year NAFTA was passed…you cant peg that on the Bush administration. Your comments lack credibility.
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
This is all crazy.
Obama08
Wake up people. Don’t be fueled.
Posted by: Denise | April 25, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
countallthevotes writes:
“While the serious charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dismissed based on “illegal surveillance,” I have my own ideas about that.”
Me too. And I’d expect the Republican National Committee knows ALL about it, too.
Clinton was right to pardon Rosenberg and Evans — why should THEY spend life in prison while the mega-rich Ayers of Exelon, and Dohrn (who, among other things, urged the youth culture to emulate Charlie Manson — live cushy professorial lives in the ivory tower?
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Did any of you crazy people listen to the entire sermon by Rev. Wright? Sound bites make for higher ratings by Fox News. I heard the entire sermon and now I understand what he was saying.
Can’t believe in 2008 we are having the foolishness.
Posted by: Denise | April 25, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
“Obama channels Malcom X”
Obama couldn’t channel Malcolm X if he had the entire Akashic Record displayed on his teleprompter.
Wright, on the other hand, presumably WAS alluding to Malcolm in his 9-11 remarks.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
JUDITH —- The only reason Obama has (as you say) “a clean record” is because he hasnt been around long enough to gain ANY experience! That is not a positive characteristic, but a negative one. SO…with his “very short” record, how can he be tied to soooooooo many weird events..??? Resko, Wright, Davis (communist), he cant relate to small-town people, he prefers abortion to “punishing a woman with a child”. Face it, he is NOT going to be President.
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Denise —- How can anyone say “God d–m America”, “the government created AIDS to kill black people”, “we brought 9-11 on us…” in ANY CONTEXT that it would be OK???? He is a racist!! And by the way, he didnt grow up abused by “the man”, he grew up in a mixed neiborhood in Philly, and went to an “elite” school that had a marvelous academic environment. So…he’s also a fake!
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Doublestandard,
Hillary exagerrated his visit to Bosnia for effect. The truth is she did go there. Her “lie” was a fish tale.
Obama is lying about stuff he did do claiming he didn’t. H eis much much closer to Wright and Ayres than he claims.
Posted by: geevill | April 25, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
If I take McCain and the fox news’ hannity’s line of thinking, anyone works with someone deemed a terrorist, lives in their neighboorhood, serves on the homeowners board, the PTA, whatever, is considered a subversive. Especially someone who may or may not be unrepentant, but was not convicted?
When in America are we considered guilty by Association?
I thought better of Mccain, but he seems to be mired in the mud like the restof the GOP. What a shame.
Posted by: scott jeffries | April 25, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Neil —- Since 1933, democrats have controlled the senate 80% of the time. I think they can take SOME of the responsibility for the entitlement programs that will bankrupt this country in the next 20 years if we dont act fast!
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Jerry writes:
“McCain said today, “Hamas endorsed Obama and they want him as President”…”
And milquetoast Obama just spent several days denouncing Jimmy Carter, the rural white guy with the Nobel Peace Prize, for meeting with Hamas. Jealous?
It’s not “racist” to refuse to support this fraud. It’s willful self-deception TO support him, especially on the thin and exaggerated excuse that, as saboteur John Kerry noted, he’s “a black man”. Has Congressman Clyburn possibly lost his marbles? (Clearly, based on his Larry King appearance, Bill Richardson did.)
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
McCain will not be a very good president because if he was ever smart he would save his campaign money!!
Posted by: Iron Hog | April 25, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
CLINTONS LAUGH AT YOU AND THEY ARE YOUR HERO’S – WHO DO YOU THINK THE BOSNIA JOKE IS REALLY ON? YA YOU SHE LIED TO YOU AND WHEN ON T.V LAUGHING ABOUT SNIPER FIRE IN THE PARKING LOT NOTHING LIKE SAYING HOW CRAZY ARE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE ME!! HAHA
NOT ONLY DID SHE LIE ABOUT THE SNIPER FIRE BUT SHE TRIES TO ACT AS THOUGH SHE IS A HERO FOR GOING INTO BOSNIA WHEN HER HUSBAND ALLOWED PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO DIE BECAUSE HE WAITED 4 YEARS TO STOP THE CLEANSING HE PROMISED HE WOULD STOP!!
EVERYTHING SHE THROWS ON HIM CAN ALSO BE THROWN AT HER, AYERS REV WRIGHT RIGHT DOWN THE LINE… BY THE WAY AYERS WAS AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF THE VIETNAM WAR, HE ISNT A TERRORIST LIKE SAY BIN-LADEN …
Posted by: melissa | April 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
People are judged by the company they keep and Obama is no exception . And by the way, it is absolutely appropriate. Obama is simply obfuscating and attempting slight of hand tricks. It won’t work.
Posted by: rplat | April 25, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Belle Star, you make the Weather-underground sound so romantic.
Posted by: tww | April 25, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
I don’t really care what the hell ppl in Bosnia are doing all I care about is #1 USA BABY!!! Tired of caring about others when we need the careing going on here in the states!!The hell with Africa or BFE we need some support right here in the USA!! GO USA LETS MAKE IT WORK IF ANYBODY CAN MAKE A COMMUNIST GOV WORK IT IS THE USA!!!WE THE PEOPLE!!
Posted by: Iron Hog | April 25, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
tww writes:
“Belle Star, you make the Weather-underground sound so romantic.”
Moi? I don’t understand what you mean.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Lets face it Obama is so unelectable due to all his lies. Even his reverand calls him just a politican, Yeah! like he can bring change. His racist campaign
has divide this party, even the national review has done a report about how they were going to use race.
He can’t win the white vote and he can’t win the majority of the womens vote. The elder are having a hard time with the thought of having to vote for him, so what will the democratic party do since this man has basically said the base is not worth it only the young and black are worth it. And he calls the Clinton’s racist isn’t this reverse racism?
Posted by: Melissa | April 25, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
American9 —– You are TOOOO funny. I dont agree with your statements, but isnt it ironic that FDR, a democrat, censored, suppressed, screened, and edited ALL news coming out of the war-front. And you think Bush has news “spies”??? Its no wonder you support Obama!
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
How can we allow this Weather Underground man to live among us and blame anyone for associating with him? If he was that bad and a “terrorist” why is he living among us?
Posted by: Gillis | April 25, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
I doubt if anyone actually knows who the weathermen, by name, actually were. They were convenient, there is no doubt to that. The attention garnered by them was manufactured by the press at best and used by the government to illustrate sedition, wave the flag and accuse nonbelievers of defiling the memory of dead soldiers. Unfortunately, the elite infrastructure of the war machine began it’s agenda of death, oil, and crippling stupidity, on the backs of those who lost loved ones in Viet Nam. Look back at the attack on the American people and recall the absurd battle cry…we have fixed Viet Nam…and then look at those who tout that…not one of them served….cowards…druken cowards…
Posted by: Richard | April 25, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Gillis — You asked why there is a problem with Ayers, who “lives among us”? John Ridley said it perfectly…..”What someone did forty years ago — within reason — should not damn them forever. But that’s assuming the offending individual pays their debt to society and repents. Ayers has done neither.”
Posted by: Mark | April 25, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Who is the patriot?
Wolf Bilzter
No military service.
Chris Matthews
No military service.
Pat Buchanan
No military service.
Ann Coulter
No military service.
Lou Dobbs
No military service.
Sean Hannity
No military service.
Brit Hume
No military service.
Rush Limbaugh
No military service.
Bill O’Reilly
No military service.
Michael Savage
No military service.
George Will
No military service.
George Stephanopoulos
No military service.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
United States Marine
Posted by: Jim B | April 25, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Has anyone ever thought that on 9/11 maybe there were just 19 hijackers who alone & the whole USA has been duped into war? Propaganda is a wonderful thing.
Posted by: Dali | April 25, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
ABC is Propaganda Machine
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/jan-june08/tvgenerals_04-24.html
Cut and paste the link above.
ABC is reduced to abc because the refused to answer claims that they helped in the LIE to the AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THE KILLING OF AMERICANS IN IRAQ.
Posted by: American9 | April 25, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
I PRAY FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN TO BE STRONG AND TAKE WHAT EVER THE MEDIA PUT OUT. OBAMA IS AN INTELLLIGENT MAN AND HE WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME AND MAKE IT TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STAES. I FEEL MCCAIN AND HILLARY IS GIVING OBAMA A HARD TIME. WHY MCCAIN NEVER SAY ANY THING ABOUT HILLARY BOSNIA STORY. GO OBAMA. WE ARE PRAYING FOR GOD TO MAKE HIS CAMPAIGN STRONG.
Posted by: Wanda | April 25, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Add up the facts. Obama shows no respect for our National Anthem. Obama disrespects our flag. Obama is a 20 year student in a Racist Medrassa African Focused Church with a hate mongering pastor. Obama’s wife says she has never been proud of America in her life until now. Obama has terrorist friends. Obama has questionable relations with a slum landlord. Obama has no record of accomplishment in any job he has ever held. Obama cannot think on his own 2 feet without making racist statements like he did against the people of Pennsylvania. HELLO??? Say NO to Obama – say NO now say NO often. Obama the Elite is hard of hearing.
Posted by: Bill | April 25, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
And Robert Zelnick, he spent more than 20 years with ABC News and served as their Pentagon correspondent from 1986 to 1994. Today, he teaches journalism at Boston University.
And for the record, we invited Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and NBC to participate, but they declined our offer or did not respond.
We’ve been talking to the Pentagon since Monday about participating in this segment. But when we finally scheduled it today, they were unable to supply a guest on short notice.
Posted by: American9 | April 25, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
It’s clear that the GOP will go to town on Obama’s ties to Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist who says his “only regret was that they didn’t go far enough” with the bombing. In the age of terrorism they will hammer him with this, no doubt. It also raises questions about the kind of change Obama is talking about bringing to America.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 25, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I just watched the Rev. Wright interview on channel 13 (PBS.org) and I would have to say that after watching the sermon, at least the one where he said “Americas Chickens are coming home to Roost”, that if you listen to the parts preceeding that; he was quoting some Ambassador (a white man). The soundbites on TV leave out the beginning of the sermon and the end, which is unfair and I could
see how that was definitely taken out of context.
The part about “GD America” was also part of a sermon where the news showed the soundbites and left out the beginning and the end as well. After listening to the whole sermon, it puts it into perspective somewhat, but the fact of the matter is, he should tone down his choice of words, there kids that go to the church too and don’t need to hear that kind of language.
JMHO- Just my honest opinion
Posted by: dennis | April 25, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Richard writes:
“I doubt if anyone actually knows who the weathermen, by name, actually were.”
–> Well, Ayers certainly was one of the kingpins of record. How many then-young idealists who weren’t in on the joke are sitting in prison right now for running errands for the “Weathermen” is an unknown.
“They were convenient, there is no doubt to that. The attention garnered by them was manufactured by the press at best and used by the government to illustrate sedition, wave the flag and accuse nonbelievers of defiling the memory of dead soldiers.”
They were kind of SO convenient, as a poster sort of suggested here earlier, that it’s the teeniest bit suspicious, in retrospect, that it even happenned. It would certainly be interesting to know who was COINTELPRO — ringers bent on derailing the Movement, i.e., agents provocateurs, and who wasn’t.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 25, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
MORE FROM THE REPORT ABOUT ABC AND THE BUSH/McCAIN TREATING AMERICANS AS FOOLS.
What happened here was a psy-ops campaign, an incredible government propaganda campaign whereby Donald Rumsfeld and Torie Clark, the head of public relations for the Pentagon, designed a program to recruit 75, at least 75 former military officers, as your report said, most of them now lobbyists or consultants to military contractors, and insert them, beginning in 2002, before the attack on Iraq was even launched, into the major networks to manage the messages, to be surrogates.
Posted by: American9 | April 25, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I just watched the Rev. Wright interview on channel 13 (PBS.org) and I would have to say that after watching the sermon, at least the one where he said “Americas Chickens are coming home to Roost”, that if you listen to the parts preceeding that; he was quoting some Ambassador (a white man). The soundbites on TV leave out the beginning of the sermon and the end, which is unfair and I could
see how that was definitely taken out of context.
The part about “GD America” was also part of a sermon where the news showed the soundbites and left out the beginning and the end as well. After listening to the whole sermon, it puts it into perspective somewhat, but the fact of the matter is, he should tone down his choice of words, there are kids that go to the church too and don’t need to hear that kind of language.
JMHO- Just my honest opinion
Posted by: dennis | April 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Some Americans are clinging-on to being treated as FOOLS.
HOW IS THAT ABOUT CLINGING-ON.
HILLARY AND BUSH FOR 20 MORE YEARS.
I DON’T THINK SO.
Posted by: American9 | April 25, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Face it, Obama has the heart of a radical. Too many ties, too many questions. How can anyone not see that?
Posted by: Scott | April 25, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Everyone should take the time to check out Rashid Khalidi and Edward Said. Obama has had relationships with both men. Although Said has passed away, there are photos of Obama with his arm around Said at a function. This is not just one or two meetings with random radicals, there is a distinct pattern here of who Obama chooses to associate with. Rezko has made at least 5 trips to Syria within the past 5-7 years and Hamas gets financial backing from Syria. The media is really failing Americans by pushing Obama on us because of his race – although they keep saying “race” shouldn’t be an issue. The issue is “who is Obama and can he be trusted with the safety and security of our country and our children?” Most democrats would have to say no looking at the preponderance of poor judgement and questionable relationships that Obama has.
NO OBAMA 08!
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING OUR NOMINEE!
Posted by: calli | April 25, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Don’t you all see that you are playing into the hands of the competiton by continuing the argument?? Let’s just say…we are the party of change and real positivity….mr obama has refused to lower himself to muck in the mud…aren’t we at least able to respect his lead and be the ones that rise above??? There are many great examples…Ghandi…Martin Luther King…eventually the question is asked…have you no sense of decency???
Posted by: stacey | April 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
What about Bill pardoning Ayers’s associates???? People, Barack and Hillary have the same baggage here. In fact, Hillary’s may be heavier. Did you all know that Hill and Bill had Reverend Wright help them through the Monica scandal, too? Let’s be fair here.
Posted by: Amy O | April 25, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
As I read these posts, I am terrified by the level of stupidity expressed by people who have the right to vote.
If this is an example of the intellect of America, we are doomed as a nation.
Posted by: Kozak | April 25, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I like McCain lately! Obama is the worst out those 3 candidates!
DNC will not give the nomination to Mrs. Clinton anyways! They would rather write off the election but NO HILLARY for the DNC!
That means John McCain will walk to the White House in November!
I wish the Iraq war would end but may be it is God’s will and we need to be in Iraq for a while till the war hero McCain stabilizes the area!
Posted by: Jenna | April 25, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I think this his a lame issue. Had Barack done something wrong, take him to court. Otherwise, let’s focus on the issues
Posted by: zago | April 25, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
It is so sad that the “american” way has become an attack mechanism instead of a real discussion of issues..it is so obvious that this administration has failed miserably in their attempt to take over the government from the people….We as a people must make our voices heard….otherwise we are doomed..our voices, hearts and souls still mean something no matter how hard they try to take it away from us….be strong and question your leaders!!
Posted by: stacey | April 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Those that spew hatred….must own it..there is a reason you hate…look within and ask yourself if you are fair or just speaking the words of your parents…sad…make up your own mind and THINK…thats what the smart people do…it makes alot of sense and actually gives you a sense of self…individuality is a great thing!!!
Posted by: stacey | April 25, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Amy O,
Bill Clinton did not pardon associates of Ayers. Evans and Rosenberg had their sentences commuted after serving 16-17 years of their sentences. I recall that the sentences were 40 years for one and 58 for the other. Note, Ayers never did a day. His wife, Dohrn did about 7 months.
Both Evans and Rosenberg were contrite and renounced violence as a means of change. Neither Ayers nor Dohrn have ever been remourseful. I am sure you have heard Ayers statement, “we should have done more.”
Commutations are based on contrition but also disparity of sentences and selective prosecution. Note, the disparity of sentences between Ayres and Dohrn vs. Evans and Rosenberg. Note that the case against Ayers and Dohrn was dismissed due to “illegal surveillance.” Note further, Ayres’ father was the CEO of Com Edison in Chicago and also on many Boards. He was a very powerful man at the time. Ayres was deemed the “rich kid radical.”
The commutations by Bill Clinton were well grounded on the disparity of sentences, the presence of contrition, and selective prosecution.
Commutations are never popular. That does not make them inherently wrong.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
I don’t see this as a racial issue!
I want my party to win in November and I don’t think barrack can do it!
Hillary seems to me, finds her way to bounce back and put things behind her all the time!
I am black and have a collage degree. I am not that old either. I am 34 years old and will be voting in NC for Hillary unexpectedly!
Posted by: Daniel, NC | April 25, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
I would have never ever voted for a Republican! I can not vote for Obama! Allthough I did vote for him in MI!
If I knew his ties with all kinds of these terroists Ayers, hamas and all and his pastor , I would have NOT voted for him!
I want my vote back!
GO HILLARY!
Or I will cast my vote for John McCain or Nader!
Posted by: Zenge | April 25, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
1. NeoCon…no
2. Liberal…no
3. Republican…no
4. NeoLib…no
5. Fascist…no
6. AMERICAN…yes..by birth x 6 gen
7. Native American…Cherokee
8. McCain..Clinton…Obama…samo,,samo..goofy politicos….
Posted by: Richard | April 25, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
I would have never ever voted for a Republican! I can not vote for Obama! Allthough I did vote for him in MN!
If I knew his ties with all kinds of these terroists Ayers, hamas and all and his pastor , I would have NOT voted for him!
I want my vote back!
GO HILLARY!
Or I will cast my vote for John McCain or Nader!
Posted by: Zenge | April 25, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
What Obama refers to as “distractions”, more and more Americans are beginning to consider legitimate questions about his relationships with the likes of Rezko and Auchi, Rverend Wright, and Bill Ayers. When George Bush first ran in 2000, the media avoided digging into his past that included dubious military service during the Vietnam War, alcohol abuse, and his repeated attempts and failures at running businesses. Look what we got! Maybe America is finally waking up and realizing that the more Obama tries to minimize these “distractions”, the more we need to keep pursuing just who this great pretender really is. I do not trust him, and his actions so far in this campaign have done nothing to allay those fears.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | April 25, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Yesterday McCain said he wanted to tear down New Orleans and that his crazy pastor said GOD wanted to destroy New Orleans for its sins (Katrina) McCain has plenty of problems without suggesting any wrong doings by Obama.
Posted by: spoon2456 | April 25, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
What a waste all of this is….
BARACK ALREADY WON – NOW FACE IT
McBush couldn’t win at checkers with this guy.
McCain is selling you more WAR and you’re buying it?
PLEASE
Posted by: sem rocka | April 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
It will be hard for me to vote for McCain but I will definitely vote for Nader vs. Obama!
NOWAY!
If the DNC gives the nomination to Hillary, I will vote for her! Which I don’t beileve so!
Posted by: Gail, MA | April 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Obama might end up with the nomination, but I don’t think he will win the general. There is a line that most moderate Democrats cannot cross. Obama is that line. His questionable associations will be his demise when voters go into that booth come November. Everyone I personally talk to about this will not vote for him in the fall. Some say they won’t vote at all, some say they will write in HRC, some say they will cross over to McCain. Either way, it adds up to a loss for all of us who so desperately wanted a Democrat in the White House.I think the Democratic party made a huge mistake betting on Obama.
Posted by: Bea | April 25, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
McCain…
So much for your wanting to have a campaign based on the issues.
Same OL BUSH BUDDY. So Ol’ Washington CR@P
Posted by: spoon2456 | April 25, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
McCain Focuses On Ayers-Obama Connection In Conference Call
Senator John McCain in a conference call with bloggers, continued to highlight Barack Obama’s interfacing with William Ayers, the Weather Underground terrorist and his wife – and demanded an apology to Senator Tom Coburn for Obama’s comaprison of these…
Posted by: PAXALLES | April 25, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
hey samrocka, Who cares if Barrack won now!
He will loose his butt to the old man in November!
YOu need to see the facts!
Without winning
OH
PA
FL
MI
Say good bye to Obama!
hillary can win all and does not need to win those red states that will never go democrat!
Posted by: Gail, MA | April 25, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
It is interesting how the republicans are trying to VERY HARD to keep Obama from winning the nomination. That should tell us something. Why aren’t they waiting until after the primaries? Because they don’t want to go up against Obama in November. WAKE UP DEMOCRATS: The republicans want to go against Hillary because she will be easier to beat, otherwise why would the republicans work so hard NOW at beating Obama.
Posted by: The Unshrub | April 25, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Hey Bea, DOn’t ever write HRC to your ballot in November if Obama is the nomine1
here is the rule, your vote will automaticly go to Obama because she is a Democrat!
Just don’t vote or vote for nader1
Or McCain!
Posted by: Gail, MA | April 25, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
You’re funny… and fairly unintelligent as well.
No One will vote for a coward poser with a chip on his shoulder and nothing to sell but the same copycat bull that we’re getting now.
WAKE UP…
America wants change, not four more years of BUSH being played out by a old washed-up puppet.
Mccain can’t fill a room and this other guy is setting world records.
u need to pay attention to real news
Posted by: SAMMY | April 25, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Obama is going to McCain country on FOX, he is turning his attention to the DNC fund raising, the GE voter registration drive. He has Clinton cornered in IN and NC, her campaign broke and unable to move out. Soon all one will see is McCain, and Obama in the press and Hillary will fade.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | April 25, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
I have often wondered how Ted Kennedy and the rest of the Kennedys who support Obama felt when they saw the Reverend Wright’s “chickens come home to roost” statement after 9/11, without a doubt knowing that was Malcolm X’s statement after the assasination of their beloved JFK. Politics sure does make strange bedfellows.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | April 25, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Both sides Clinton and Obama campaigns made error. The “bitter” statement by Obama was taken out of context but it reveals some of his view about small town folks. The Bosnia story was obviously an exaggeration, Hillary apologized, no need to dwell on it. Both sides made mistakes. Now this attempt to define Obama as having terrorist relationships is interesting because if we use those same standards, then McCain having relationships with the biggest terrorists of our time, Bush and Cheney ought to be pointed out.
Another point, on the Wright comments about God damn America. I have often this phrase from very famous preachers of the white persuasion. “If God does not punish America, He will have to apologize for Sodom and Gommorah.” Boy, I swear those two statements sounds awful similar. And yet the predominantly white media would like to portray Wright as someone who is unpatriotic. They fail to provide the rest of the info that Wright served in the Marines. Gee, maybe the flag on the lapel of Bush and Cheney counts more for being a patriot and love for this country than Wright. Amazing logic! Well, I’m hopeful that most white Americans are smarter than that and will figure out that the same conservative tactic of divide and conquer is at play. Want more of the same, elect the sitting party and we will get just that.
Posted by: YouBeTheJudge | April 25, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
How is Obama going to win in November after huge segments of the democratic party defect to McCain? Oh, yeah, you say McCain, he’s old. So are Hillary supporters, well, over 45. He’s moderate. So is Hillary. He’s sponsored bypartisan bills. So has Hillary. What has Obama done. Made friends with American terrorists and Arab terrorists. Supported Hamas in his church? Oy vei.
Posted by: frisco girl | April 25, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Hillary, the better candidate.
Obama, the bitter candidate.
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING THE NOMINEE!
Posted by: calli | April 25, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Anyone else remember that for the past eight years we’ve had a president with business ties to the Bin Laden family and the Saudi Arabian government (from where the 911 terrorists ALL came)? I mean if we’re going to tarnish by association, let’s apply it to Republicans too.
Posted by: Not likely | April 26, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Clinton or Obama will make a good presidential candidate that Democrats can be proud to be associated with.
The media wants to sell ad space for negative campaigns. Have you noticed that they highlight when someone wins when they go negative? It’s almost a subliminal message that no one puts together. I find it fascinating that people actually buy all those negative messages. They must be effective, right? right? yup, it must be true. Let’s keep repeating it over and over again, it must be true. And we go with it like lemmings being led to massacre.
Posted by: Wuzup | April 26, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Just a thought: Wright’s military service seems a lot more distinguished than either Bush’s or Cheney’s.
Posted by: Not likely | April 26, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
All you guys are wrong. The biggest problem will face Obama in General Election is Tony Rezko, who is on a corruption trial in federal court. Obama’s 17 relationship with him will be very hard to be explained just by a speech.
Posted by: Jack | April 26, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
The Bill Moyers’ interview of Rev. Wright was very revealing. This wild eyed crazy preacher is still stuck on the slave ship of 300 years ago. He boasts that he can get away with outrageous statements in America – that would get him killed in many other countries of the world – for treason.
Americans do not want to elect a president who has been listening to treason for 20 years. It is a no wonder that his wife has no pride in her country.
Posted by: Lance | April 26, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
I must confess to being dubious about the argument that Hillary is more likely to win a general election when she can’t even win within her own party.
Obama all the way.
Posted by: Puzzled | April 26, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
“- that would get him killed IN MANY OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD – for treason. americans do not want to elect a president who has been listening to treason for 20 years.”
Spot the lapse of logic in the above. America’s definition of treason does not extend to denying the right to criticize. Other countries’ definition does. That’s what makes America stronger
Posted by: Puzzled | April 26, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Oh yeah, we forgot to point out that one of Bin Ladin’s family relative was flown out of US in a private jet paid for by American gov’t immediately after 9/11. Bush and Cheney were clearly in charge of the executive branch at that time. Good execution of their patriotic duty, protect the country first, wear a flag on the lapel, how long can these shallow arguments continue to work? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
As Reagan once asked, are you better off today than you were 8 yrs ago? If yes, then elect the sitting party. There you go again, with those distractions and make sure we find a way to divide and conquer.
Obama was probably trying to explain to the San Francisco crowd how to bridge the gap between their views and those of small town America. And it was taken out of context as a slam on small town folks. I believe he is truly uniting this country because we’ve got some pretty large problems hovering over us. Thanks to that village whose missing their idiot that has managed to bring this country at the brink of bankruptcy.
Posted by: Wuzup | April 26, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
You took the bait, hook line and sinker. Yes, the Republicans would have you think that Obama is worse than McCain, if Clinton is not the candidate. They love every minute of it. Go ahead and help push their agenda, that is certainly better and safer than Obama, right? right? yup, it must be true.
Posted by: Wuzup | April 26, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Dennis at 10:17 Let me give you the “honest facts” so that you’ll stop giving the wrong “honest opinion”. “Chickens coming home to roost” is from Malcolm X not some white ambassodor as Wright and you claim. Fox News is reporting a review of their tapes shows the white ambassador never made those remarks as Wright claimed in that speech. It is lies like this that Obama and his campaign perpetuate by not telling the truth as they surely know it!
Posted by: Virginia in NC | April 26, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Let’s look at the “contradictions of Obama”. Some of the contradictions are inexplicable.
How does one explain campaigning throughout 2007 on a platform of transcending racial divisions, while in that same year contributing $26,000 to a church whose pastor incites race hatred?
What is Obama to do?
Dismiss all such questions about his associations and attitudes as “distractions.” And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions.
Obama’s political career was launched in a 1995 meeting at Ayers’s home. Obama’s own campaign says that they maintain “friendly” relations. Obama was 40 when Ayers said publicly that he doesn’t regret setting bombs. Ayers said, “I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Obama has done enough to destroy the democratic party – for the good of the party, Obama should get out now.
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
Posted by: calli | April 26, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
In Obama’s words, “you’re wearing me out brother” by saying it’s old politics and the politics of division whenever you’re asked a tough question. Strong leaders who make good presidents find a way to handle and move past the tough questions– they don’t keep repeating “old politics”, “politics of divison” rhetoric.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 26, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
It looks like the majority of the bloggers here are not aware that Obama and William Ayres worked together on the Woods Project in Chicago for 3 years. They are more than just acquaintances. Obama has many questionable and disturbing issues with his past, not just his associations!!!!
Posted by: Chris | April 26, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
If anyone actually DID Google William Ayers they would find that he is in fact a distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois and an expert on school reform who has served as consultant to Chicago and many other districts. But that wouldn’t stop the neocon pinheads from trying to paint him as a terrorist. After all, everyone in Iraq who doesn’t agree with America is a terrorist. Probably everyone who doesn’t wear a flag lapel pin (did you notice Hillary wasn’t wearing one, even though she wore a jacket at the debate? Nor did the “moderators.” I guess only black men need to be continually patriotic). The real question, of course, is why the neocons SO need to tell everyone how terrible Obama is. You’d think they’d LIKE an easy win. Makes one wonder do they protest too much?
Posted by: Bemused | April 26, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Wuzup,
The context for Obama’s bitter small town people clinging to their guns and religion analysis was a direct question from one of the attendants who asked:
Why is it that you are not doing well with working class/small town voters in PA?
That was the context.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 26, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Senator McCain is going after people who have done or can do little harm to our country. He goes after people merely for expressing dissent but not after the people who misled us into this war for oil. To add insult to injury he even wants us to stay a hundred years in Iraq. All this for oil. Is it not shameful? It is easy to beat up on the small guy while bending over backwards to please the powerful. This is not what our country is all about. Our country was founded to treat the common man and the powerful equally. Let us conduct ourselves true to this spirit.
Posted by: worldsam | April 26, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
McCain, is this a joke? Guilt by association? Senator McCain, you are associated with a false and illegal war, with a president who blundered and insulted the world, with the deaths of 4000 Americans and countless thousands of Iraqis that did not threaten us, who did not ask for or desire our help. You are associated with 8 years of record setting national debt and a recession that is affecting millions of Americans. You’re associated with giving the rich a free ride to get more godawful stinkin rich while the working wages of the poor and the middle class have stagnated (or sunk) for the last 8 years. Even now, you and your buddies filibuster in congress keeping any domestic progress from going forward. You associate with the bigots and elitists at Fox News and right wing radio. And most of what they do, they do out of fear. Fear of being attacked. Fear of rocking the boat. Fear of making wealthy people pay their fair share. Fear of change. McCain I could go on and on. I don’t believe Obama or anyone he’s ever spoken to has ever done the kind of damage to our country that you and your smoke filled backroom buddies have done for 8 years running. You’ve been around a long time. You’ve got plenty of associations in your past that could be dug up. Do you really want to go there?
Posted by: Scott | April 26, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
I’m sure Karl Rove at Fox News, will be burning up the Blackberry with zingers to Chris Wallace to get Barack Obama tripped up and agitated so as to get a sound bite to play over and over.
Sean Hannity has been anything but fair and balanced. He has baited every guest with questions about Wright and has his finger on the Reverend Wright video loop to play in the background.
Brack Obama has to man up as they say and point the finger back at right wing Fox News and all the crazies that hate-hate liberals and progressives. Barack, be forceful and look in the camera and tell America that you love this country and that you will not let these hate mongers bring you down!
Sean Hannity will be his usual rapid self; foaming at the mouth at the prospect of derailing the prospects of the 1st Black President. Think about it. What prominent Black leaders does Fox news promote or encourage? None!
Now CNN has hired the smooth talker Tony Snow of all people, a true partisan to provide commentary at CNN. Who’s bread does he butter?
Many Republicans, like Rush Limbaugh’s followers, Ann Coulter’s listeners and Fox viewers, who don’t want to see a black man become president will vote for Hillary because she’s white.
These boys are playing to win! Barack, don’t let them do what they did to John Kerry. They ripped the medals right of of John Kerry’s chest. Black is white. White is black Annimal Farm. Is it the florine in the water that has Americans sleep walking?
Posted by: culpeperson | April 26, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Whenever someone call Obama on his BS he always say that the person is not running a respectful campaign. I’m starting to think it’s a trick. We could find videos of Obama defacating on the American flag and if someone wanted to ask him questions about it he would say that it’s old politics and asking him question about that event would constitute not running a respectful campaign.
Basically a respectful campaign for Obama is a campaign where no one ask him any tough questions, bring up things from his past that need to be clarified. I think he is expecting everyone to roll out the red carpet to the White House lawn.
Posted by: coolrepublica | April 26, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Obama’s best choice is to stop the campaign and become Clinton’s VP.
I found all the black voters including Clyburn has a same nature. When they attack their own Democratics friends they are relentless, spare no efforts, shouting loud and shameless, as in a master nature.They can call someone black president yesterday and charge him worst enemy today. However, when they face their real enemy they are so weak, helpless as in a slave nature.
If you look at them talking at CNN, they are so eloquent and rips Clinton to the bone. But when talks at Fox, they just react like turtle.
Why you act like this. This charge from the Republican / McCain is much more damaging and vicious than that for Writer’s. For Writer, it is a judgement issue and exusible; for Ayers, it is a linking with Terrorist issue and inexcusible. McCain is very smart. He skip stabing Obama’s arm but using the sword to point to Obama’s throat.
Why I don’t see any any counter attacks from Obama and its web defenders. Please fight back.
Posted by: UScitizen2144 | April 26, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
“It looks like the majority of the bloggers here are not aware that Obama and William Ayres worked together on the Woods Project in Chicago for 3 years. They are more than just acquaintances. Obama has many questionable and disturbing issues with his past, not just his associations!!!!”
Posted by: Chris | Apr 26, 2008 1:07:56 AM
Chris,
Obama and Prof. Ayers served on the Board of Directors of the nonprofit Woods Fund of Chicago together between 1999 and 2002. Maybe you are not aware that directors on boards of corporations are appointed or elected. The fact that they served together on a corporate board thus means nothing at all, except that they were in the same room a few times a year for board meetings.
Posted by: nanokie | April 26, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Tonight I watched Rev Wright interview with Bill Moyer and I hope you did too. Because if you did than you know the truth. Therefore the lies must stop. Rev Wright is not the monster that some of the polticians and news media will have you to beleive. I ask before you say anything that reveal your ignorance about Rev Wright watch the entire interview with Bill Moyers. Before I watched the interview I was very angry at Rev Wright because I beleive what the media wanted me to beleive. Never again will I let some one opinion become my reality.
Posted by: shirlyB | April 26, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
How about McCain apologizing to the City of New Orleans for having a man on his staff, as his spiritual adviser, who has said that Hurricane Katrina was God’s way of punishing a morally corrupt nation? What a thoughtful, accepting, Christian view to have.
Or McCain could explain why he wasn’t wearing a American flag pin on his lapel during his interview with George Stephanopolous Sunday.
When Obama does it, he’s called un-American, but if McCain does it, no one notices? How’s that for a liberal media?
Do me a favor and stop using my country’s good name as an excuse for your bigotry and war-mongering.
Posted by: Marie | April 26, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
It is difficult, reviewing all these posts, to remember that our next President will hopefully lead us to a better future. A good leader should keep the focus on the broad concerns of America and should engender our trust. I cannot see many feelings of trust about either Democratic candidate, and it is increasingly looking like McCain should take the helm. And if anybody thinks the “war” is not an important issue, he or she should meet with the terrorists of the world and discuss their agenda for all of us….
Posted by: workingdoc | April 26, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
As a candidate for the highest office in our land, privy to all of our most sensitive information, it is reasonable and right to examine every aspect of that candidate’s life.
With his self-confessed past drug use and current questionable associations with people who have been publically documented making anti-American statements, if Obama were John Doe, he wouldn’t be able to get so much as a Confidential clearance in the military. let alone Secret, Top Secret or higher.
Anyone in any branch of service, military or civilian, must pass background checks in order to receive a clearance. How is it that anyone can find it “unfair” to require that a candidate for president meet the same requirements that Jane or John Doe face when applying for any military or governmental job to assure the safe handling of our nation’s most sensitive information?
Posted by: SM White, Irvine, CA | April 26, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Doublestandard,
People like you will destroy this country who see progress in Flag and lapel pin Not in economic prosperity. People like you, an ignorant patriot who will envade any country and stick there for 100 years because you can not withdraw, it’s a surrendar.
You keep on asking “Is Obama’s pastor patriot?” Does that matter in any way in his presidency election?
Go outside America and learn your reputation now. Nobody in the world likes us, they think we are a big bully. And you will help elect people McCain who will continue Bush’s policy. Bush is the one who you elected. You like Hillary more than Obama. Why they again get 8 more years in White House? For another Bill – Monica scandle?
How many times they need to be in White House?
I know you all are helping to win McCain by voting Hillary. She can’t win, if you know maths, do it. Evey vote casted to Hillary onward is a vote to McCain since it helps to tear Democratic Party apart not to elect Hillary since there is no number in Popuplar vote or delegate vote for Hillary.
You won’t realize this because you guys are ignorant, don’t know maths and have no common sense. To win this election by Hillary, Obama must drop out, There is no other way. Or the election must be like in Michigan where Hillary was only on Ballot. That’s the only way she can win this. But you will keep on voting her. Do it. You deserve a third term of Bush. After 4 years, your economic status, American retupation and national pride will be zero. Still you will vote based on lapel pin.
Posted by: Purushsharma73 | April 26, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Serving on a board of directors with someone hardly quantifies what Mccain is implying.
Did our most famous senile senator forget hard-line conservative Pastor John Hagee ? See, Mccain NEVER repudiated Pastor Hagee for his outrageous, egregious statements.
Repudiate yourself, senator, than get back to the nursing home you conned your way out of.
Posted by: erin | April 26, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Why odoesn’t anyone point out John McCain’s realation to Charles Keating going on free Junkets and jet rides at the expense of a criminal!He was hauled before the ethics committee as a member of the Keating 5! McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,000 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating’s airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating’s luxurious retreat in the Bahamas! Keating’s Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion.
Posted by: PHVT | April 26, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
The Republicans have been sitting on a lot of info that will come out in the general election. That Obama will be arrested and convicted for his crimes. Guess what the Dems will not have a candidate for President that any Democrat voted for in the primaries or caucuses. The VP candidate will end up running for President and McCain will win by a land slide. This info is from a Chicago resident who knows way too much dirty info on Obama that will get Obama convicted on many crimes. Just look at Obama’s criminal, radical, racist and terror associates. The Republicans are counting on this. Obama fans come down from your emotional frenzies and allow some common sense, logic, reasoning and rationality back into your minds. Before it is too late. Vote for Hillary 08.
Posted by: Bob4USA | April 26, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
With all this stuff about Obama, now we know why he doesn’t want negative campaigning. He has no presidential positive experience. He’d have to completely rely on experienced democratics already in the political system, that he calls old politics. Interesting.
Posted by: Get Real | April 26, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
the media is so two faced. this stuff on Obama should of been out there befor the 1st votes were cast.
Posted by: not fooled | April 26, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
McCain talks about integrity but here is a man who has committed adultery, had been involved in one of the biggest scams in banking history as one of the Keating Five, and currently he openly violates the campaign laws he wrote. He has been lying and cheating all of his life.
Posted by: The Unshrub | April 26, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
May Showers:
It isn’t racist to dislike what someone does – regardless of his race. Is it racist to think OJ did it?
What is racist is to excuse or blame someone for everything only because of race. Are you excusing Obama from possible bad behavior because he is 1/2 black? If you are then you’d better think about who you’re calling a racist.
Posted by: SuziQ | April 26, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
Everybodies ranting and raving about Bill Ayers being a terrorist, and how he tried to blow up some buildings at the capital – as if he just woke up one day and for no good reason went on a bombing spree.
If you want to label him a terrorist then by your own justification you have to label the u.s. government terrorists as well because their violence against my people (black people) at that time is what made a group like the Weather Underground necessary.
Rodney King beat downs were going on everyday. We tried to deal civilly, diplomatically. We sent the most loving, christ-like activist this nation as ever produced to plead our cause (MLK) and they killed him. And after that all the proteges of malcolm x came out of the shadows brandishing his slogan “by any means necessary”.
And so the void made by americas murder of martin luthor king jr. and subsequently the civil rights movement was filled by less loving, eye for an eye, black nationalist movement. And when the crooked cops came shooting at them, they shot back, and there was a very real war being waged. the fbi murdered nine black panther members as they slept after an informant spiked their coffee with sleep medicine. they murdered 16 year old bobby hutton of the black panthers. – he was shot nine times and he was unarmed at the time.
it blows my mind the arrogance of some americans. you violate and trample over anybody, citizen or foreigner, and when the carma YOU sowed comes back to bite you, you pretend you don’t have a clue why it’s happening, don’t glance in the mirror one time. many of you get the ‘ideal’ of america confused with the ‘real’ america. when you stop telling yourselves how great and good you are and really try to find out why people are acting a certain way then maybe we’ll get somewhere.
As far as Ayers; he took the only road this government left him at that time. he did what washington, adams, jefferson, and the rest of the founding fathers did after they tried and tried again to peacefully get their government to give them their basic human rights.
After the civil war the southerners who warred against the country were treated as brothers and embraced. – There’s no reason Obama shouldn’t do the same with this man who fought not for money, or status but for what he felt was right.
Posted by: Tim G. | April 26, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Obama the defender of “new politics” has spend more money in propaganda than any other candidate. 3 times more than Senator Clinton in Pennsylvnia and he still lost,
Posted by: Felixdiaz1 | April 26, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
Obama is 7% Black 43% Arab and 50% White. To be considered having an ethnic race you need 10% minimum. Obama is not a Black African American. Obama is Arab and White period. Get over it. Obama has bamboozled and hoodwinked Black African Americans. Obama is not fit to be President.
Posted by: Bob4USA | April 26, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
@ Tim G
So you support terrorists. Nice.
Posted by: SuziQ | April 26, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Bottom line…McCain is disabled and getting a monthly disability check. Is this what we want representing us to the world? He is perceived as being weak already. Will Hillary be focused enough dealing with the countrys problems and Bill’s extra marital goings on? I realize she had nothing to do with his goings on…but it could happen again. Obama is young, healthy, strong, in love with his wife, loves this country and would represent this country to the world as a respected power force to be reckoned with.
Posted by: Bree Ann | April 26, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Obama can not deal with the primaries, his campaign is wasting time, tey should focus on why Obama looks down on blue collar workers and rural workers alienating the majority of Democrat base.
Posted by: Felixdiaz1 | April 26, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Obama shouldn’t worry about McCain comments. Senator Hillary Clinton will deal with him in the general election.
Posted by: Felixdiaz1 | April 26, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
I guess the “Street Cred” is the new slang for “PIP Squeek”.
Posted by: kneedermyer | April 26, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Don’t get me wrong, I think Obama’s heart is in the right place, but can the media at the very least pretend to act unbiased towards him? It’s unbelievably obvious that the media has made their choice, and that any questioning of Obama’s friendships, past dealings, patriotism or rhetoric simply will not be tolerated. You’re not even permitted to dare mention his middle name. I believe the American people are smarter then this and in the end will backfire on both of them.
Posted by: Rich | April 26, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
A top political adviser in Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign helped arrange an introduction in 2006 between McCain and a Russian billionaire whose suspected links to anti-democratic and organized-crime figures are so controversial that the U.S. government revoked his visa.
Rick Davis, who is now McCain’s campaign manager, helped set up the encounter between McCain and Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska in Switzerland during an international economic conference. At the time, Davis was working for a lobbying firm and seeking to do business with the billionaire. If McCain becomes president Iam sure he will reinstate his visa.
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: merle7 | April 26, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
When have any presidential political candidates honestly ever followed through with any of their so called changes in American society thst really made a difference since Franklin Roosevelt!
Posted by: Dave | April 26, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
OF COURSE McCain prefers the Ayers meme as opposed to the Wright meme. McCain has John Hagee (whose endorsement he sought) and Rod Parsley (his “spiritual advisor”). iow, McCain’s a HYPOCRITE. (Not exactly a newsflash, I know.)
Posted by: Tom J | April 26, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
I see one of ABCs top stories is; “Is Race Slowing Obama’s Momentum?” So if you don’t vote for Obama you’re a racist? Didn’t Bill Clinton try this tactic with David Dinkins 2nd bid for mayor of NYC? We all know how that turned out.
Posted by: Rich | April 26, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
The race for President has turned really nasty and this is the things about Washington that need to be changed and Barrack Obama is the only one of the three people left that has the guts to change Washington certainly not old cronies like McCain and Hillary!!!
Posted by: rockychance | April 26, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
Tim,
since you are so outraged with america and “what americans” or “you” have done, why don’t you leave. You don’t call yourself an american, so leave and don’t reap the rewards of being here
remember, there were whites fighting for civil rights for blacks too.
Posted by: pp | April 26, 2008, 5:24 am 5:24 am
The thing with this and his other associations is that he uses bad judgement in the people he chooses to associate with. It isn’t he media picking on him.
There are serious questions about this man and I think they need answered. I haven’t been hoodwinked or mesmerized by him. NC and IN think long and hard about who this man is before you vote for him.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am
McCain is absolutely right. Who you associate with shows the type of person you are, mentality and thinking you have. Obama is a modern day hitler who is trying to mesmerize people with his goody-goody talk, but luckly the truths are coming out, he has a minister who is a white hating racist, an american hating wife, and terrorists friends, etc., and he himself is an elitist. He will never be elected. White people are not stupid. If Hilliary had a KKK minister or KKK member on her staff or the like, she would never see the end of that. Obama is two faced. He tries to be all black to his group, but white to the others with his goody-goody talk. He is one of the most liberal do nothings of the senate. Independents will flock to mccain only because Obama is showing his true color, a black racist.
Posted by: stan | April 26, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
McCain…The Bob Dole of Presidential Candidates. OBAMA 54% McCain 46%. The straigt talking express is a lying old man.
Posted by: Jim | April 26, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am
Jim,
At least that lying old man was a decorated war hero and has done something in his years in the Senate. Not that I agree with all of what he says and does. The Republicans are just getting started on Obama and it isn’t going to be pretty.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
And this is from a member of the Keating Five?! When will John McCain release his medical records?
Posted by: Astounded | April 26, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Since this Weatherman connection in the news, we have Clyburn, the black congressman, going after Bill Clinton and saying he is using race. WHAT A JOKE? Blacks vote overwhelming for their guy and their leaders have now gone overboard with this nonsense. They try to cover up their guy’s dissing Small-Town America and the reverend spewing his anger and hatred toward America. Let us pause and have the reverend issue a sincere apology to the American people and to the United States of America.
Posted by: benvictor | April 26, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
These Congressman and Senators need to shut up and stay out of it. To call Bill or Hillary Clinton racists is absolutely absurd.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
I get the biggest kick out of the Obama people. Every time someone brings up a negative about the guy, they are divisive and running a dirty campaign. Her is a tip for you Barack, GET USED TO IT!, if you become the nominee, it will get much, much worse. The Republican attack machine will be far more critical than the media or Sen. Clinton. Once Karl Rove gets on board, it will be a daily diet of Rev. Wright, Ayers, and any other scumbag that can be linked to your hero. This guy cannot win in November, and that is sad as I am a lifelong Democrat.
Posted by: Jim | April 26, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
I don’t really get what the GOP is doing by going at Obama so hard now. He may well not be so far off getting the nomination. Why not wait until he has the nomination before off loading on him? Unless of course one thing they want to do is make sure someone else is the nominee so that they can off load the good stuff on her during the fall? After this is flimsy at best. To my knowledge, Obama has never made any statement of support for Ayers at all. McCain has stood next to John Haggee as he endorsed him. If we are going to play guilt by association then lets all play! (And as for Pastor Wright, anyone else think this is more a case of right wing evangelicals desperately trying to protect there argument that only right wingers can be men or women of God?
Posted by: markymark | April 26, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Jim,
I don’t know what polls you are looking at but check this link out. It has polls from several different sources and I don’t see the numbers you posted.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Simple really. Either you are for Mr. Obama or you are not. It applies to Ms. Clinton and Mr. McCain. When you are in someone’s corner, the facts or fiction does not change your mind since only you can change it, your mind. For many, it will be voting for the lessor evil.
Posted by: Longtree | April 26, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
As a military Vet, and a black American Democrat, I cannot understand why so many people think illogical.
1. Calling Mr. Obama the first black is not true, he is a mixture. I have mixed children, we always tell our children that they are neither, but both. (stay neutral)
2. He has NO military experience, look what happen with Bush
3. He knows what Americans want? (this is a complaint for all candidates)
4. He gets away with his association with Rev. Wrong (Wright, is this what’s Wrong with America), If a non-black candidate had similar association with an individual that made comments about African Americans, they have been forced to leave
5. Someone will surely say I’m not as educated as Mr. Obama, so I’m ill-informed. I you say, if you want to be president then listen to all the people. My party has a hard time of doing this. Be yourself and people will like you better.
My party needs to find away to keep its members…..
Sincerely,
Very liberal look at the GOP
P.S.
Whoever wins, it’s not about you it’s about the people.
Posted by: YrultyBlue | April 26, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Bill and Hillary are not racists. They have done more for Black American and other Black people in other countries. What have Obama done for Black people but set us back 40 years. In my eyes, Obama started the playing the race card and I am African American
Posted by: suzy | April 26, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
YrultyBlue,
You are right. My niece is biracial and my sister makes sure that she is exposed to both cultures. Like you said they are both.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
all you clinton haters that call them racist need to look at the philanthropic organization bill started a number of years ago. it sends MILLIONS of dollars to various areas and for various issues in AFRICA. and you dare call him a racist. if that is a racist, then we should encourage him to send the money to a more receptive, appreciative area.
Posted by: pp | April 26, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Suzy,
That is what people are forgetting. The Clintons have always done alot for the black community here and abroad so to paint them as racists is ridiculous. To do that is a slap in the face to both of them.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am
I love Maya Angelou. She should run for President!
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Stacey, you wrote: “He (Sen. McCain) was going to be all about the issues and now he is not. He is a LIAR.”
Character and judgement ARE issues. Please explain how Sen. Obama can portray himself as the candidate of Hope for America when the people with whom he associates — not just once or twice, but over and over and over again, going back years and decades — have expressed rhetoric that is anti-American. And in the case of Bill Ayers, he actually took his anti-American feelings beyond rhetoric and bombed several government buildings. Bill Ayers was a member of the terrorist group, Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of the Students for a Democratic Society, in the 1960s and 1970s. And instead of repenting for the bombings, Bill Ayers wishes they could have done more. Can you get anymore anti-American?
Posted by: James Danley | April 26, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Obama once served on a committee with William Ayers and they became friends. That DOES NOT mean that Obama agrees with the actions of the Weather Underground (which most readers don’t know anything about). Ronald Reagan became good freinds with Mikhail Gorbachev, when he was president. Does that make Reagan a communist? Of course not. Their friendship went a long way in helping Gorbachev dismantle the Soviet system. A friend can have more of a positive influence than anyone else. Clinton and McCain cannot defeat Obama on the issues, so they can only attack his character. In their brand of politics, being dishonorable is acceptable. But it should no longer be acceptable to us. If McCain cannot show us that Obama himself was a member of the Weather Underground, he should shut the hell up. He won’t do this, of course. He should tread lightly, because he has been involved with some very unsavory people himself and someone is liable to start talking about the many extramarital affairs he has had over the years.
Posted by: Bill | April 26, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Obama thought all his past associations wouldn’t be brought up, now that they have he doesn’t know how to deal with it. Hillary should fight all the way to the end and these Democrat big wigs should stay out of it.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am
The problem is that there is everything to rip Obama. Like George W Bush, Obama is an embarrssement for this country hiding what he does not want to unveil, to discuss, to debate. A typical black man refusing responsibilities. Statistic showed that the 90% of black men don’t marry the woman they get pregnant. I hope that Obama understand that this is typical of him and he can’t help him even after years of therapy.
Posted by: MicheleK | April 26, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Where is Oprah for Obama? Since his pastor cames to live, Oprah has been undercovered.
Posted by: bobby | April 26, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
This knee jerk response by the Obama campaign that any criticism of their candidate is ‘divisive and distracting’ is getting really old. This man is running for President (and Commander and Chief). Questions about his associations with a convicted, unrepentant terrorist are fair game.
Posted by: mpct | April 26, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Bill,
Gorbachev wasn’t at terrorist, there is a difference. Gorbachev wasn’t running around trying to blow up buildings.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Barck Obama has become a joke and a farse. All the counties and boroughs in PA were in lite blue for Hillary Clinton except Philadelphia. People are angry of Obama’s farse. He is the one who cling into sects, guns and antimmigrant sentiment.
Posted by: Josephm | April 26, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
In PA he only won 7 out of 67 counties, that should tell Obama something, we aren’t buying what he is selling!
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
Let’s look at the “contradictions of Obama”. Some of the contradictions are inexplicable.
How does one explain campaigning throughout 2007 on a platform of transcending racial divisions, while in that same year contributing $26,000 to a church whose pastor incites race hatred?
What is Obama to do?
Dismiss all such questions about his associations and attitudes as “distractions.” And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions.
Obama’s political career was launched in a 1995 meeting at Ayers’s home. Obama’s own campaign says that they maintain “friendly” relations. Obama was 40 when Ayers said publicly that he doesn’t regret setting bombs. Ayers said, “I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Obama has done enough to destroy the democratic party – for the good of the party, Obama should get out now.
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!
STOP THE DNC FROM CORONATING OBAMA!!
Posted by: calli | April 26, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
What else Obama doesn’t want the American people to bring up. What else Obama want to supress us to know about his con personality. In the beggining I thought he wanted a free ride, now it is becoming more of a sociopath behavior.
Posted by: Milamaria | April 26, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
Stacey, you wrote: “…it is so obvious that this administration has failed miserably in their attempt to take over the government from the people…”
Please explain what you mean! You seem to be saying that it is a negative thing that the Bush Administration has NOT succeeded in taking over the government from the people. The irony is Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton want to do exactly THAT. They believe in a government OF the government BY the government FOR the people.
Posted by: James Danley | April 26, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
It seems to me Obama is the one who will do or say anything to get elected
he is fine tuning his campaign
we are now going to see ads reminding us that he had to eat jello and was once poor.
Lets all listen to HIS poor story
and we can all still have Sen. clinton to listen to OUR poor story-and she will help US.
so he continues to copy her.
she won the working class vote and now he is going to remind everyone he is working class too.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
what about McCain’s 20 year association with Henry Kissinger who calls for population reduction (genocide) against Africa?
Google: National Security Memorandum 200
Posted by: whitemale2008 | April 26, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Wait a minute..To apologize to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to Ayers? Why doesn’t he apologize to the American people?
Posted by: RossiMass | April 26, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Black people should take an honest look at how Obama used the people in his church for political gain. Has he been back to that church?
He looks down at black people and white people thinking he can charm them and fool them with lame excuses.
This is about Obama’s character not his color.
Posted by: cindy in nc | April 26, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
It is a shame that even though the chosen man (Obama)have come to rule America have came still yet u guys can not recognize him,please stop u cristism and just trust find Obama who have it in his heart to save America.Let HIllon stop the fight she did while and that id all for her from now because Obama is going for better preparition.
Posted by: Lenz | April 26, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
To J: And, my some of my black men do not want to pay child support. Black men are planning to riot if the super delegates take the position for Obama. My black men should take that energy and help support their black women or our young black males. Our black families cannot grow without our black men support. Please, my black men pick a candidate that will do well for your black women and black children NOT someone you do not know and have not done any things for us or because he looks black. For once, do something that wills benefits your black women and children.
Posted by: suzy | April 26, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Negative campaign with the truth? Give me a break. Negative campaign is his missconception anad his negative Ads about healthcare showing ignorance in the subject. That was a real turn off in PA. Healthcare cannot be sided in the negative side and with no foundations. Barack Obama once again, is so pretensious.
Posted by: JohminPA | April 26, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
lenz,
I will use Sen. Clinton’s words to answer you
obama’s campaign is all about HIM
Sen. Clinton’s campaign is about helping the american people.
(and of course she will make history too)
This is not a game-HRC 2008
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
I am a typical white person who clings to guns and the Bible….not out of bitteness but out of my faith in God and love of outdoor sports….A typical black person from Ilinois might not understand that.
Posted by: adam | April 26, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
I should have checked my spelling…sorry.
Posted by: adam | April 26, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
black men are not going to riot when obama loses-black men if they started to pay just a little attention-they will see obama does not identify personally with them at all.
If all of american didn’t riot because of the BELL decision out of ny yesterday.
there will be not riots.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
I predict that Barack Obama will betray his surrogates and suporters. He likes to run away and he doesn’t face his own reality. If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen..Barack Obama doesn’t even do that as he in total denial.
Posted by: MicheleM | April 26, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Suzy,
I totally agree with you. My niece’s father falls into that category and keeps blaming everyone but himself. The only good thing he has done is bring my niece into this world. She’s brought so much joy to both sides of the family.
Until they realize they are the ones to make thing happen things will stay the same. I am not saying that all black men are like that because I know they aren’t.
Posted by: J | April 26, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
I find it amazing that people think it’s not important who a presidential canidate associates with. A president’s friends and associates become cabinet members and political appointees. They end up helping to run this country and make policy decisions.
Posted by: Mindy | April 26, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Hard to understand how the 3 candidates are the best America has to offer. This political process is a circus and cannot and will not attract individuals that would do for this country those things that need done. Some bigger problems than who will be President: The educational system in this country is beyond repair…the govt. has proved beyond doubt that they must get out of the education business. The special interest groups of the educational establishment will not allow the problem to be addressed. Our national budget is a disgrace. We do not pay our debts as we rob from the future generations. Our finanical situation is beyond repair. Our foreign relations policies are disgraceful…the American people have never agreed or supported the backroom deals to send our money out to the foreign interest that pander our political leaders. Of course, without discussing the additional issues that need solutions such as medical care, our energy policies, and enviromential concerns…I have saved the best for last. Congress should go to their homes and never return. Our country would do better if Congress did not exist. The canditates for President are not the solution…I don’t know what else to say.
Gloomy in the USA.
Posted by: Roger King | April 26, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
I thought we were getting past color in this country when Bush appointed a black man and a black woman to very high positions in his administration.
I mean, c’mon – the SecState position is the face of America that we show the world!
I thought we were getting past color when Thomas was put on the Supreme Court and no one rioted.
A black man helping write the law of the land!
The TRUTH is that we WERE PAST COLOR — until this election.
The Clinton’s have one thing in common with the GOP that I do agree with – they both will do ANYTHING to get elected.
There are a lot of folks that will sit this one out if this nonsense continues.
The politics of race.
Disgusting.
Posted by: David | April 26, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
I would like to know the advantage Barack Obama got with all his buddies. We all know about Toni Rezco, his 2M dollar house, how he obtained the land and how he benefited Rezco with million of dollars in contracts in detriment of the poor. The media should unveil the advantages and kick backs he got from his other associations..I am sure there are plenty. We need another debate in Indiana.
Posted by: Jules | April 26, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
There is another type of racism at work here, folks:
The American people do not understand Islam and as such have been duped into believing it is a religion of hate.
Why else would there be no OUTRAGE over the FACT that both McCain and HRC are on record as wanting to “obliterate Iran”…?
Do you really want to elect a president that – at the drop of a hat – will nuke Iran?
Why aren’t these statements held in the same light as all the other issues?
Posted by: David | April 26, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
I thought America was beyond race until Obama used the term “typical white person” and hearing him defend a pastor who blames “rich white Americans for Americas problems”…I am a rich white American and I give away to charity more than the average person pays in taxes each year. That is why many whites are upset of the old race baiting schems of the Democarts and thier seemingly blind support from Blacks. Democrats want to give people fish…I propose we give out fishing poles.
Posted by: adam | April 26, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
again..sorry for the spelling errors…i was typing way too fast…sorry
Posted by: adam | April 26, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
J: You are right and I am not saying all black men are not supported of the black people but the number is small. Again and again, I tell my son that you must look for changes within yourself once you do that the world will with you. And, do not blindly put your hope in one man and unless he has footprints in accomplishments that you wish to achieve in your life.
Posted by: suzy | April 26, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Prior to making any decision, there are only two things a politician considers: Number 1, will it put money in my pocket? and Number 2, will it get me reelected. If some good for the country comes out of the decision, its an acccident.
Posted by: Rick O'Shea | April 26, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Scott, I could, using your own words, “go on and on” about how I disagree with practically everything you wrote. But I will briefly address only two items.
1. The Battle of Iraq is NOT false and is NOT illegal. Saddam Hussein failed to comply with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire for 12 years. It was Saddam Hussein that mislead the world into believing that he still had WMDs. Congress gave President Clinton the authority for regime change in Iraq in 1998. Congress not only reiterated that authority in 2002, but they specifically gave President Bush the authorization to use military force to implement that regime change.
2. The “rich” are NOT receiving a free ride. The top 1% of the nation’s wage earners account for 39% of the total income tax revenue. The top 5% of the nation’s wage earners account for 60% of the total income tax revenue.
Posted by: James Danley | April 26, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I am so sick of Barack Obama. Now is all about millions and no substance, about forcing the minds of America to like him and to be imposed to someone incapable, ignorant and with his pockets filled with mafia $$$$$$
Posted by: Edward | April 26, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
predict that Barack Obama will betray his surrogates and suporters. He likes to run away and he doesn’t face his own reality. If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen..Barack Obama doesn’t even do that as he in total denial.
Posted by: MicheleM | April 26, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
What ever happened to investigative reporting? Guilt by association charges are repeatedly made, are parroted out on regular occasions, people then opine speculate, decide with their gut, when there is no way they can possibly know anything.
Posted by: normenrique | April 26, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Obama said he would not raise taxes on those who make less than $200K per year…then he said he would raise capital gains taxes…that seems silly because half off capital gains takes filing are from people who earn less than $50K per year…most of that 50% is from retired people who live on small fixed pensions and social security…Obama, once you get passed his good grammar, really does not understand the tax revenue structure.
Posted by: adam | April 26, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
I love Maya Angelou too! I wish she would run for president, I swear I’;d cast my vote for now!
It is not the race issue!
Obama is inexperienced and backed by the old fashion politicians!
I do not trust him, How is he gonna change and hwt kind of change?
Posted by: Gail, MA | April 26, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Bill Clinton made Maya Angelou the Poet Laureate of the US
She owes them –
That’s the problem with the Clitons – it’s all about ownership and owed favors
This country needs to wipe the slate clean – and start again
Posted by: alison | April 26, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
All those years being tortured has softened his brain.
Posted by: spoon2456 | April 26, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Hey Adam,
Obama will raise your Capital Gains taxes the most!
He will double!
Here are the numbers
Obama 28% increase
Hillary 20% increase
John McCain will remain the same!
Also Obama will tax your if you make less than 75K!!!
Only onethousand dolars less tax if you make 50K or a senior
But Hillary will NOT increase your taxes if you make up to 250K
This is a big difference!
Most of those middle class Americans are making more than 75K and less than $250K , there fore they ofcourse will NOT vote for Obama!
If you ahve any type of assets or a working class who make over $75K you better NOT vote for OBAMA!
You should for Hillary or McCain!
That is one of the reasons Obama can not win the General Election!!!
Rich people will go for McCain anyways, but middle class will not hand over their life savings nor their income to Obama! That’s why those white middle class voters are more attracted to Hillary! It is NOT the race issue!
Posted by: Ann, MA | April 26, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Wai a minute: Who owas who?…That is Barack Obama cannot reject..He can only denounce. I don’t have the slightes hope that Barck Obama will will repudiate William Ayers, not even to apologize to to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to Ayers (as an example of a friend with whom Obama disagrees), and to apologize to the American people for his relationship with Ayers, “an unrepentant terrorist.”
How much does he owe Ayers? He seems so grateful of that terrorist. I wonder why.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 26, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
alison: Bill should have given the position to a white person but he selected her (black) and helps many of black people. Good for you Bill for not looking at color and helping other black people in the US and other countries.
Posted by: suzy | April 26, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Wai a minute: Who ows who?…That is exactlt what Barack Obama has not and will never be able to rteject because he is one of them..He can only simply denounce. I don’t have the slightest hope that Barack Obama will repudiate William Ayers, not even to apologize to to Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., for comparing him to Ayers (as an example of a friend with whom Obama disagrees), and to apologize to the American people for his relationship with Ayers, “an unrepentant terrorist.”
How much does he owe Ayers? He seems so grateful of that terrorist. I wonder why. The tipical Obama’s problem is al about gratefulness to the wrong people.
Posted by: RossiMas | April 26, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Think about it most American have not served the military. Think about it… Think about it. I have under Bush 1, and Clinton. I did not win a popularity contest, I volunteered. So have my grandfather, dad, and 3 uncles. My uncle’s name is on the wall in Washington, my dad returned as a broken man, whose life ended in the same violence that consumed Vietnam. Our choices are obvious; we have given a man with no international experience a chance to run. (Bush 2, think about it… think about….) We have it to given a woman a chance, how can it get worse. If not Mrs. Clinton, let an experienced candidate like Mr. McCain. Names are nothing, unless you are in Hollywood. Mr. Obama is not tough enough to handle a one-sided media, which is basically in his corner. How can he handle the battle grounds of the world, for the battle grounds of America? This country has become better day by day. As a black educated male, our youth can care less about politics because they no actions speak louder than words. I love this country.
Think about it
McCain-Clinton 2008, this doesn’t sound too bad.
Sincerely,
Very liberal looking at the GOP
P.s.
What does my party offer, other than a circus? I want results that good for all America.
Posted by: YrulyBlue | April 26, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Negative campaign with the truth? Give me a break ! Negative campaign is his missconception anad his negative Ads about healthcare showing ignorance in the subject. That was a real turn off in PA. Healthcare cannot be sided in the negative side and with no foundations. Barack Obama once again, is so pretensious.
Posted by: JohnminPA | April 26, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
hey Adam! You are wrong!
Obama will increase your income taxes if you make over $75 NOt $200K
You are mixing with Hillary!
Obama will suck our blood! He is NOT for the working class!
Obama will increase your income taxes if you make over $75K ,
Hillary will increase your income taxes if you make over $250K, no tax increase up to $250K with Hill
Big difference!
And Capital gains tax Obama is insane!
He will double our capital ganis taxes compare to Hillary only a 5% increase!
Obama has no clue how a working class family makes it?
Posted by: Linda, | April 26, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
McCain has always gone negative. The fact that he state he will not is just one of many lies we will hear from him. I think all the candidates stink. Obama is untested. With Hillary we get back Bill becasue he still has work to do? McCain is more of the same old problem and thinking that has America falling behind every other world economy and the American worker struggling to survive. We have more Americans in poverty, without health care, and employed in jobs that can not support them at any time in history and McCain wants to stay the course. So not only will he lie, he is stupid!
Posted by: tat1962 | April 26, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
The Clintons and many White people are not racists. If you look at most of charitable organizations that are working to fight HIV, AID and feeding the hungry in the US and around the world that are full of white people. White people and white churches are the first to give money and most of all they are quick to work in other countries for the benefits of the needed. You may find a hand full of Black people working in other countries for the needed but you will definitely find thousand of white people giving of themselves. Black people needs to stop and ask the questions: where your church money going and what have your Black leaders or Black person that what to be your new leader done for your own race
Posted by: suzy | April 26, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
It seems to me that Obama is another George McGovern. Please review the election of 72. Now add in Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and anyone else. The democrats are heading for a train wreck with Obama.
It is true that the democratic primaries are bringing in new voters and excitement for the party. However, the more we learn about Obama, the more questions are raised for the general election. I am sure the uncommitted superdelegates are taking into consideration what is best long term for the democratic party.
No candidate will ever be perfect. Obama has many more red flags that would be a deal breaker with voters when compared to Hillary.
Posted by: keval | April 26, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
It was Bill Clinton that gave China Most Favored Nation trade status. He did that in spite of their human rights record and when he did that he said that our insistance of human rights advancements was getting in the way of commercial interests. Furthermore, it was Bill Clinton who signed waivers allowing High Technology transfers to Chinca including top secret IC chips used in nuclear warfare. In other words, Bill Clinton sold us down the toilet. And while Hillary was screaming at Bush over the Dubai Ports deal, her husband was being paid to get the deal done, and he was being paid to help Dubai interests purchase two defense contractors. The Clintons would sell us to the highest bidder if it put money in their pocket.
Posted by: Dave Peck | April 26, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Upon graduating from Wellesley, Hillary made a commencement speech that moved her audience. She went immediately to Yale Law School. Following Yale, and a year in Washington, Rodham flunked the DC bar exam twice which has a 60% pass rate. She moved to Arkansas and passed their bar exam which has an 80% pass rate, and married Bill Clinton. She taught at the University of Arkansas and joined the Rose law firm which is a corporate law firm. Clinton established a legal aid clinic at the university. She taught law for two years. As first lady of Arkansas, and of the U.S., Clinton served on many boards including Wal-mart. She chaired only one: the Task Force on National Health Care Reform, which failed, accomplishing only political traction for Republicans and a setback for her husband. She fended off prosecution involving the White House Travel Office and her investments with Whitewater. A year after Clinton became a Senator, she secured $20 billion for New York City in the wake of 9/11. Among other funding measures she directed toward her state, she prevented the closing of a military base there. Although she is considered to be one of the most influential Democrats in the Senate, most of her sponsored legislation has been symbolic — naming two post offices, two courthouses, honoring and congratulating sports teams and historic figures from New York. And in 6 years on Wal-mart board, she sat mute while the company fought against unions and the advancement of women. She has a reputation of being the queen of earmarks and recently secured a 1.5 million dollar earmark awarded to a Harlem minister who endorsed her candidacy for President. She also has accepted more corporate donations than any of the Republican candidates. NOT AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD LEADER.
Posted by: Dave Peck | April 26, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
What’s changing the dynamic in the presidential race are these new republican ads – at the state level – that are linking democrats in state/congressional races to Obama and his questionable associations. These ads stand to derail the candidacies of many democrats.
The DNC may have been willing to take a chance on Obama at the top of the ticket but it can’t afford to sink the prospects of so many congressional and state office democrats.
Expect to see more of these ads.
Posted by: s. valenti | April 26, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
The problem we are having in the democratic party now is that the “black coalition” is basically saying we have to give Obama the nomination without asking any more questions about him. Well, if a sitting United States Senator began his political career in the home of an American terrorist, the American people and democrats have a right know this. Obama did nothing after the leader of Hamas published an article in his church newsletter last July. By doing “nothing” Obama has condoned the Hamas’ murder of 26 Americans, including children and infants, with their rockets into Israel. Democrats deserve answers to Obama’s connections to Syrian Rezko, whose trial has already called the Chicago political community to start calling for the impeachment of the Democratic governor, who is close to Obama. How much more is there not uncovered because the radical left wing of this party, and the black community, are hell bent on putting the first black man in the white house! I would vote for a black man, just not this black man! Obama does not represent unity or hope. Obama represents a terrible change for America.
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING THE NOMINEE!
STOP THE DNC AND MOVEONORG. FROM CORONATING OBAMA WITHOUT ALL 50 STATES VOTING!
OBAMA IS STEALING THE NOMINATION!
Posted by: calli | April 26, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
why is the young voter polarizing? The young voter (and you should define what you mean by the young voter because Obama is winning people in their 20s to 40s by a large majority – not just 18 year olds) has the same voice as the older voter. It seems to me the older voters are the ones who are polarizing the vote. The majority of women over the age of 65 are voting for Hillary simply because she’s a woman. The older voters are the ones who are spewing hate and venom towards everyone who does not support Hillary. Also, it was Martin Luther King’s vision that ignited a passion in ordinary people to pressure LBJ to pass civil rights legislation. You can’t say hope and vision don’t create huge movements of change. There is an entire history in America and in this world of hope and vision creating change from the Enlightenment to American independence. Furthermore, in reality, Obama has more experience holding elected office than Hillary Clinton. Being first lady does not count as experience. Maybe we should elect Monica Lewinsky? Apparently she did sit in on phone conversations between Bill and foreign dignitaries than Hillary did!
Posted by: Dave Peck | April 26, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
It’s just business as usual for the Republicans, even for those advertising themselves as being on the straight talk express.
Posted by: w_roos | April 26, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
You have to forgive poor old John, he often gets muddled and confused. When examined rationally, there is no issue with the weathermen.
Posted by: John | April 26, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Dave,
please, you are going to OD on all that kool-aide.
There is no way any true patriot will vote for your candidate. True patriots will only vote for candidates we feel love and respect America. These candidates associate with people who also love and respect America. These candidates do not try to racially divide the country we love.
These candidates do not include Obama.
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 26, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
GC,
What should we think of Joe Bonanno contributing to McCain’s campaign? That Joe Bonanno is a voter and is Republican.
Posted by: countallthevotes | April 26, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Bottom line…McCain is disabled and getting a monthly disability check. Is this what we want representing us to the world?
So said BreeAnn….
Yes BreeAnn, you are right. I would like to see how you would fare after being holed up in a prison with no bed and concrete floors for over 5 years. This disabled man has paid a lot more than many to insure that the flag still flies.
JFK had back problems after his PT boat was sunk, and also dealt with Addison’s disease. Bob Dole, although never our Commander in Chief, was paralyzed from war injuries in WW II. FDR led us through WW II, even though paralyzed from polio. Barbara Jordan served very ably in Congress, despite dealing with MS.
These persons were all ‘disabled,’ as you have put it. And while I don’t philosophically agree with all of them, I would not characterize any of them as weak because of their ‘disabilities.’ Could it be that the ‘disabilities’ they physically suffered caused them to work even harder and be even stronger?
Posted by: ForensicOne | April 26, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
The democratic race is polorizing the electorate to the point where the division will cause the democrats to lose in nov. The rehtoric coming from constituates on both sides is getting more ugly as time passes, young vs. older, black vs. white and male vs. female. Observing all posts, the younger voter is polorizing the electorate the most and this is not the unity I was expecting in this election. Now racial inuendos are appearing in the posts and this will only further divide the party, as well as cause race issues to escalate. I am fast becoming disenfranchised with my own party for the first time in all my years of voting and so are a lot of others. I don’t think people realize on both sides how fractured the party is becoming and this will cause some to not even vote in the general election or vote the other side. If this race comes down to the super delegates determining the winner, we will surely lose the election. I for one, have already went down to the department of motor vehicles and have already changed my affiliation from Democrat to Independent and I urge all the Obama Democrats to do the same. Most of these “Super Delegates” (which Bill is worth 12 just by himself!) are enter-twined with The Clinton crime family. They are either paying back favors or they like politics the way they are and are speaking with their own greed instead of the will of the people the are “suppose to” represent. If we all unite under the independent party we not only can get rid of Hillary once and for all but we can also get rid of all these “Super delegates” that sold us out!
Posted by: Dave Peck | April 26, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Dave Peck: The Republicans have been voting for OBAMA because he will be blown away in the GE. Moderate democrats will LEAVE the democratic party if Obama is the nominee. Moveonorg. and the Radical, Left Wing Extreme Beliefs of Obama and his followers have no place in the democratic party, just as the right wing extreme Neocons gave us George W. Bush. OBAMA IS THE LIBERAL VERSION OF GEORGE W.!
STOP THE MEDIA FROM CHOOSING OUR NOMINEE!
STOP RADICAL MOVEONORG. AND THE DNC FROM CORONATING OBAMA!
To Dave Peck: Obama cannot save this country – Obama will destroy this country!
Posted by: calli | April 26, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
McCain is a BITTER old man.
Posted by: Michele C. | April 26, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
The FACT is that many Clinton supporters are sick and tired of race being brought into this contest. Clyburn, a black politician, is the one fueling the fire, along with other black leaders. Who is interjecting race into this issue?
I have been hearing many blacks talk about Clinton “stealing” this election. That is such a crock! When one race bands together, over 90%, to support one candidate you have to wonder their motivations. Well, you do not need to wonder I suppose, it is obvious. The threat of a race war and riots actually makes those who say such things look small and petty. I am sure many blacks have to be appalled at such a statement because to me it makes it look like they, as blacks, would resort to such violence. What does that say? And how could black leaders make statements like that about their own people?
The point is…the superdelegates are there for a reason. They know who will be good for the dems and decide the candidate in close races. They figure out who has a better chance. I will support their final decision no matter what. I am sure that if the shoe were on the other foot, Obama supporters would be doing the EXACT same thing. What hypocrites!! Those are the rules. Just like the rules about not moving up state primaries or your delegates will not count. If the DNC decides they do or don’t then so be it. I believe that spouting off this nonsense about “stealing” the election and starting race riots is just a ploy to make Clinton look bad and to sway superdelegates. Who is the dirty player now?? Obama just will not win the general election. Should he be the nominee I could not vote for him. Oh…I must be a racist. I could not possible have any other reason NOT to vote for him. I actually supported him last year and changed to Edwards. I saw early on his lack of substance and that he was just full of rhetoric…just like most politicians are.
No Clinton, No Dem vote from me…and over 40% of Clinton supporters. It is a shame how Clinton is always seen as the negative one. How blind people can be. This is about bullying and intimidation from Clyburn and those who think like he does. It will do nothing but fire up white Americans because race is again being brought up. This is NOT about race…it is about who will be better against Clinton.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 26, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
More blame being put on Hillary. Shame on those voters. The blame needs to go the DNC for having screwy rules in the first place. Obama supporters love to sling mud.
Calli is so right!! A voice of reason!! I have always been a dem..sort of in the middle. I cannot vote for Obama even though I was an early supporter. I figured out early on that he is just full of rhetoric and is all show. If Clinton does not get the nomination, I will vote for McCain. He is one of the most sensible politicians out there. NO pork…ever! And he will not let it slide by either. I have been researching him and he might just get my vote. Party affiliation means nothing…it is the convictions of the person.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 26, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Looks like McCain is now getting just as low as Sean Hannity…..
I’m not surprised……
Posted by: tony | April 26, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Dave,
Obama was inspirational in the beginning. He gave wonderful speeches, everyone was mesmerising.
The true Obama emerged later. His associations, his beliefs, his disdain for America.
Obama is not just being vetted. In his short carreer he has more damaging baggage than the other two candidates combined.
I too believe that the Democrat party is being hurt. Not by Hillary as your camp likes to expouse, but by Obama and the DNC for placing him in play before anything was really known about him.
I have never voted anything but democrat. I am disgusted this time by my parties obvious bias towards Obama. While I believe that they are now very sorry that they have thrust him upon us, it is now like a runaway train. Simply out of control. While half of America tries to stop the train, it gained a lot of momentum at the start of its trip. The train is moving so fast that the people on board are afraid to jump. The crazy engineer keeps telling them he will gain control, but it is inevitable that the train is going to crash.
The Democrats will have many, many defectors if they push Obama through.
Obama is not electable.
True Americans love their country too much.
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 26, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
To all Americans ask yourself If Barak is just like all the other Politician, WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING AGAINST HIM WATH ALL THERE WEAPONS MAINLY THERE MEDIA???????
WAKE UP AMERICA
GIVE US FREE!!!!!!!!
SLAVES OF THE ARMISTAD!!!!
Posted by: Nando | April 26, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
The GOP has so many links to racist and extremist groups where do you even start? Why doesn’t McCain distance and repudiate the entire Republican party..!
Posted by: chas0x01 | April 26, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
@Dave Peck: “..The majority of women over the age of 65 are voting for Hillary simply because she’s a woman…”.
Well, why aren’t you telling the truth that “the majority of blacks are voting for Obama simply because he is black”?
I felt the media should make (and they did) big deal of his relationship with Wright – That is a matter of judgment (you don’t get to choose your family members but you get to choose your pastor), think about sitting there in the church for 20 long years! I have to agree with Sen. McCain on this Ayer issue that the media should be making Bigger deals out of this particular relationship. Having political meetings at Ayer’s house while he was still actively playing the role of terrorist? That is much bigger deal compare to his relationship with Wright!!!! I am with Sen. McCain on this that I am Very Surprised that media hasn’t done anything on this serious matter. That is also a matter of judgment. When it comes to Iraq, Obama keeps bragging about how good the judgment he has, why can’t he admit that he sometimes has bad judgments? When it is bad, it is really really bad and the media still give him the free pass. When Clinton lied about something, they call her a liar for the rest of her life, no matter what she says they have the feeling that she might be lying. What is wrong with this world? I sure hope Mrs. Clinton would be the nominee, but if not, then I bet 100% that republicans would crush Obama’s chances of being elected president! Some may say “no way” because of McCain’s age, but don’t forget he gets to have a young vice president running mate who should make up as much as possible of just what McCain’s lack of to make a lot more competitive. While for Obama, what would compensate what he’s lack of? Foreign policy? Security? Probably none of these matter much because many anti-Obama folks refuse to vote for him not because of these political matters, it is something else that no running mate would ever make it up! Also it is for sure that more of current Obama supporters would end up voting for Clinton than the number of current Clinton supporters eventually vote for Obama. It is Obama who is stealing Hillary’s presidential chances! Obama is merely another politician who started to prepare himself loooong ago to run for president today, that’s why he was trying to be good in his early life, be neutral on many bills, wrote his two books, etc., all these are just preparations for his dream today! Like what his pastor said lately: he says anything as a politician. He is a politician, please people wake up stop dreaming him as someone who runs for president for YOU! He’s just as eager of the presidential power as any other politicians. You vote is valid if you see him as a politician, but you are 100% delusional if you see him as someone above human!!!! Wake up!
Posted by: dragon | April 26, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
What is now crystal clear is Hillary is a fighter and Obama is not, just as Carter, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry were not fighters. Look at Obama’s pathetic showing in the last debate and his refusal to debate Hillary again. I sense that Obama supporters would not mind if he lost, just as long as he lost the right way. I think his supporters would love a martyr, another MLK.
The Democrats do not need martyrs, we have enough of them. They need a fighter who can beat McCain to a pulp in the fall, and then fight for this country’s interests.
What really worries me is, if by some miracle Obama becomes president, he will refuse to fight for the interests of the United States. Maybe he believes what Rev. Wright believes, that this country is wrong and has treated other countries badly. Maybe Obama will refuse to aggressively pursue our interests because that would be seen as being unfair to other countries. That does not work for me. Maybe Bush is too brutal, grabbing the world by the throat, but some amount of aggression is required to compete in this world. There are plenty of countries out there willing to wring our collective necks if they can.
Democrats need a fighter. As Al Davis of the old Oakland Raiders said, “Just win, baby!” Obama refuses to fight for himself, and I worry that he will not fight for this country.
We need Hillary. She may be rough and she may be tough, but that’s good enough for me.
Posted by: David H | April 26, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
David H – I don’t understand how you can think it is so important to “just win,” and then conclude that Clinton is the best candidate. I like them both, personally, but Obama is the one “just winning.”
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
dragon – Just for your information, your notion that anyone was “Having political meetings at Ayer’s house while he was still actively playing the role of terrorist,” is completely untrue. You may not care if you are spreading lies, but others might.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
When all this is over, the African-American community is going to owe Hillary Clinton a big apology and the american people are going to be thanking her for saving us from a dangerous man like Barack Obama!
Posted by: Laura P. | April 26, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
jock59801 – Obama is winning? I don’t think so. If this were football we would be somewhere in the 3rd quarter, and the game is so close the Hillary team could pull ahead with a field goal.
The Democratic convention is four months away. Anything can happen. Remember, this is not all about Hillary. Over 12 million people voted for her and do not want her to quit. Her supporters may force her to go to the convention and fight it out. If it comes to that do you really think Obama has the cajones to beat her?
Posted by: David H | April 26, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
laura p
I am an african american and I agree.
but I think all american’ will be glad she stayed in this race and saved the country from obama and mccain.
I think the reason all of the media,
dnc, etc. are against her. is because she knows the working of the gov.
Hillary will be able to see around all of the BS. she will not owe the dnc anything. and we will finally have someone back in the white house to help the middle class people and that is what they are afraid of.
ah, the little farce about her character
and bill, monica, and all that other stuff-means nothing to the people who are against her and trying to keep her out.
they want to keep her out because they know she will be a good president for this country.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
The race issue, it always boils down to the race issue. Obama is a bi racial candidate, regardless of what some people may believe. Every shortcomming, every downturn, every negative that impacts the Obama campaign is blamed on racism. If Obama had entered this campaign without credentials, and he has, and had done badly in the primaries, had lost the nomination to Hillary already, it would be blamed on racism. I predict that if Hillary gets the nomination, some bad stuff is going down.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 26, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
suzy, I’ve appreciated reading your posts here. You bring a unique perspective that most of us posting here don’t have. I feel bad for being so against Obama, but I just don’t believe he’s prepared for the presidency at this time. How I wish he’d waited 4 or 8 more years to run, or be willing to sit back and take the VP slot (which I believe he would have been offered). Then he’d have a real record to run on and people might not be so bothered by his associations.
Posted by: HoosierSue | April 26, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
David H – I’m not sure that how “tough” they are has much to do with it. Who wins isn’t really their choice, after all. Why would Clinton think that 2/3 of the remaining superdelegates are going to vote for her, when currently Obama is picking them up at a faster rate?
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Obama could get all of the remaining super delegates and he will not win the GE.
His supporters just don’t seem to understand that those of us who do not support him are not just against his policies, or just don’t like his personality. We will not vote vote him because a lot of us believe him to be anti-American. There are many of us who will cross the aisle for the first time in our lives to protect our country from him.
He will not win the election no matter how much you might want him to.
It is still “God Bless America” to a whole lot of us.
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 26, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Patty – The fact that YOU think he is anti-American is not OUR problem, or his (unless you continue to spread the lies – which could be your intention).
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I am just watching 911 on history channel
and I was just thinking 2001 this happened
just a few years earlier obama was having his political coming out party
hosted by bill ayers
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Bottom line……… democrats that vote for McCain care nothing about our troops. Way to go. Hope you’re happy getting thousands more killed. Not to mention there could possibly be a draft.
Posted by: moe | April 26, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
and it was sen. clinton who was one of the first to say the air quality might be harmed.
when the bush adm person
christi whittman todd said no danger
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
jgaw – Trying to link Ayers with 9/11 is mean-spirited and slanderous. Not to mention false.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Jock,
The truth is before your eyes.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 26, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I am not trying to link ayers with 911
i am talking about the link of obama and ayers
it is strange that ayers had been interviewed with the nyt that ran on 911
where he was talking about his bombing days-and said he wish he had done more.
the link is obama and ayers
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Jock—Well let’s just take a look at this.
I have read Patty’s post three times and what I see is an opinion being expressed. I do not see a qualified statement about Barack being anti-American. So, I therfore do not see the “lie” that you seem to take offense to. I don’t know where you live but in Arizona we still have free speech. Obama’s past history should be explored as the affiliations that he has built in the past are questionable, at least.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 26, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
BikernAz -
I think free speech applies to me as well. I was just arguing. What were you doing?
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
don tufts – Well, first of all, everything you said was either false or exagerrated. If you want to go through it one by one, fine, but that is my overall conclusion.
If you want to know whether Obama is anti-American, you can look at HIM, or you can look at people who are loosely associated with the people who are loosely associated with him.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
jock59801 – Toughness is everything in presidential politics. Gore won the popular vote, but let Bush, Tom Delay, and the Supreme Court steal the presidency from him.
Also, nobody is questioning Obama’s patriotism. I am sure he loves this country. But his loving this country does not mean he will be willing to fight tooth and nail for American interests. Rev. Wright believes America has treated other countries unfairly. If Obama believes that maybe he will cave in a dispute with another country.
Posted by: David H | April 26, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
jgaw, you say: “it is strange that ayers had been interviewed with the nyt that ran on 911.”
What does that happen to do with anything? Yes, coincidences are always strange, but they are still coincidences.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
jock false?his fathers paper has been published ,have you read it? frank davis is who he is and obama called him his mentor in his book and made the staement about marxist profesors in his book,the rest is public knowledge and you are judged by who you associate with.
Posted by: don tufts | April 26, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
David,
Respectfully, I beg to differ with you.
There are many of us who ARE questioning Obama’s patriotism. We have HUGE questions about his patriotism.
Posted by: Patty- Chicago | April 26, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
don tufts – Which father? The one that left him when he was two, and Obama uses as a model for how NOT to be a good father and husband?
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
no lewis you should check facts people did die and obamas political coming out party was in ayers living room according to the chicago papers.
Posted by: don tufts | April 26, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
And you may disagree with Marxism, but it is a fairly common conceit and hardly anti-American.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Patty-Chicago, so Obama is unpatriotic which means he must have a secret agenda for this country. What do you think it is
Posted by: mel | April 26, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
“according to the chicago papers.”
Yes, and we all know that EVERYTHING we read in the “papers” is pure truth!
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
moe, you may as well try to get your mind around this inevitable fact. There is not one candidate out there that will be able to give the order for a full withdrawal from Iraq. It flat ain’t gonna happen. The conditions, regardless of how the candidates perceive them, are going to dictate a slow, protracted withdrawal in oder to protect the better interests of the US and the citizens and democratic government of Iraq. The emphasis being on democratic. The new president will have the cold hard facts about this nasty little mess dropped on them like a bomb. They will be powerless to make a day to night transition in the Iraq issue.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 26, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
jgaw writes:
“the link is obama and ayers”
Obama and Ayers and EXELON. Ayers = Exelon.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
“Rev. Wright believes America has treated other countries unfairly. If Obama believes that..”
Well, I certainly HOPE Obama believes that. I certainly wouldn’t vote for a candidate who was clueless enough NOT to believe that.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
And another thing… you should all watch the great Jeremiah Wright interview on PBS last night. It will change your mind…
Posted by: chichi2 | April 26, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
BikernAz – I agree with you there on Iraq. And Obama has made it clear that he knows that too.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Moe,
I’m a democrat who will vote for Mr. McCain, if Mr. Obama wins. Becauses he has fought for our country, so have I. What about you? What about Obama? They say birds of a feather flocks together. Nobody is bringing the troops home right away, WAKE -UP, everyone knows this, even Rev Wrong…..
Disabled Vet
Jax Fl.
Posted by: yrulyBlue | April 26, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
If this is the top story for the pro Clinton press, they must be getting very desperate.
Posted by: John | April 26, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
more Exelon:
“Obama has collected at least $222,000 from Exelon employees for his presidential campaign, making the company his eighth largest contributor last year. The Illinois senator received 10 times more than Republican John McCain, who brought in the second largest haul from Exelon.
Ninety percent of the company’s total $249,000 in contributions went to Democrats, but the only other Democrat to get money from Exelon was Bill Richardson, who collected $2,250.”
Whaddya know: Bill Richarson.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
jgaw – If Obama is too far left for you then so is Clinton. They have very similar views on most issues. That’s one reason that we don’t hear about the issues much anymore; nobody can find enough differences to talk about.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
yrulyBlue – Rev. Wright was a Marine and DID fight for our country. He also got a commendation for helping save the life of President Johnson. Boy, that all sounds real “anti-American” to me!
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
belle starr
thanks,
so the real story is why is obama still in the race for POTUS?
I think he will most likely win NC
because of my dear black brothers and sister following him blindly
and the really anti Sen. Clinton white crowd.
none of them really voting FOR him-because we do not really know what he stands for.
so he will win NC.
but none of the others.
OBAMA will not be POTUS 2008
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Of course they can’t bring all the troops home right away but they will start. Whereas, McCain is hell bent on keeping us there with no end in sight.
Posted by: moe | April 26, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
jock,
obama has only copied sen. clinton
Sen. Clinton political views are more in line with the moderate american voters
and as far as we know we can connect the dots of sen. clinton.
If there is some politcal history of sen. clinton that we don’t already know with this anti-clinton media-believe me it is not worth knowing.
because they have tried to squeeze dirt from every fiber of this woman very existence.
obama is still the BIG ?-he should not be running for president.
and besides I have really tried to do my homework on obama-I look at whatever I can find and keep my own counsel about him. I have also looked at how biased the media is-which will also cause me not to vote for him
IF by some miracle obama wins
it will not be
“FAIR and SQUARE”
so so much for the change and hope and above the fray, and I’m running a new kind of campaign obama.
obama-the unknown new kid on the block with the old school politics.
obama needs to go back to chicago and try to help his people for the sake of helping them and not for political posturing
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
countallthevotes – Because Iowa, NH, and SC were not included in the rule. They were “grandfathered” in due to their traditional place on the schedule. All of the new plans for “fixing this” next time include the same provision.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
jgaw – If Obama wins it will be because more people vote for him, which sounds pretty “FAIR and SQUARE” to me.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
“obama needs to go back to chicago and try to help his people for the sake of helping them and not for political posturing”
Obama started helping people in Chicago right after he graduated. Instead of taking a high-powered lawyer job, he took a low paying job helping families who had been laid off by the steel industry, among other things. He and his church have been helping people ever since.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
jgaw writes:
“so the real story is why is obama still in the race for POTUS?”
Probably because the corporate white guys won’t let him quit. He seems to have been indoctrinated with the presidential mission as a child, which is quite creepy — then set up with a state senate seat, zillion-dollar book deals, etc.
I don’t worry about his being “left”. I worry about his being a corporate construct long in the making.
“I think he will most likely win NC”
I hope and pray he does NOT.
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
jock,
will obama ask that fl and mi votes count?-then I will call him fair and square
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
BikernAz – Well, technically I was ‘discouraging” the spreading of rumors and lies. I’m not sure how “un-American” that is. You seem to have a different rulebook than me.
I believe in free speech for every nasty comment on here. The answer to free speech is always MORE free speech, and here I am.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
jgaw – The delegates from FL and MI will probably be seated at the convention, but only after the nominee is chosen. That’s more than fair, given their flaunting of the rules.
It is interesting to hear Hillary talking about how MI and FL should count, when she is on record from BEFORE those primaries saying “every knows those contests won’t count.” I actually like Hillary, for the most part, but that is pretty low.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
oh Belle,
no doubt he will win nc
to many buppies there-expecially in the golden triangle area.and many like the crowd he runs with in chicago.
What the working class do not understand is;
for many of these people it Really does not matter who is president
they all have healt ins.
they all have their kids tracked into good colleges
and yes the economy may be a little bad but they will survive it.
For these people maybe they can afford the movement to get a black man into the white house
for the working people we do really do not have that luxury-we really do need
to know what are you going to do for us.
I think obama is all talk.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Jock—Does the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan seem “FAIR AND SQUARE” to you also? Does stripping 2.5 million American voters of their right to cast a ballot and have it counted seem “FAIR AND SQUARE” to you, Jock?
It’s something you probably don’t want to hear but I believe that those voters went out and expressed there opinion and were robbed, and it is no less than that, by others for whatever reasons.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 26, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Belle Starr – The Clintons are way more of a “a corporate construct long in the making” than Obama. I wouldn’t have used that terminology, but since you brought it up….
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
BikernAz – The problem with FL and MI is a bad job with no obvious solutions. They DID break the rules that BOTH candidates agreed to, but I don’t like the idea of taking that out on the voters any more than you do.
But which voters do we dis-enfranchise? Most of the 237,762 voters that voted “uncommitted” in Michigan were clearly wanting to vote for Obama. Clinton only comes out a head in the “popular vote,” if you completely ignore those people.
Sometimes it is so obvious what is “fair.”
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
“jgaw – If Obama wins it will be because more people vote for him, which sounds pretty “FAIR and SQUARE” to me.”
No, it will be because the DNC and African American leaders will make sure of it no matter what the voters think. There is nothing fair about it.
Posted by: Deb in RI | April 26, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
What is “fair” to the voters in FL and MI who did not go to the polls because they were told there was no point, and even Hillary Clinton had said “everyone knows those contests won’t matter.”
What is “fair” to the people in Michigan who DID go out to the polls anyway, and STILL didn’t vote for her. clearly indicating their preference for another candidate.
I don’t think it is fair to change the rules because it now benefits one candidate, when everyone has already made decisions BASED on the rules.
Posted by: jock59801 | April 26, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
I am one North Carolinian NOT voting for Obama. There is much talk going on here, including how Obama refused to agree to a date for a NC debate. It just would not fit into his schedule. There have been few debates between just the two candidates and I wanted it to happen. It is about answering to US, the American people and it does not fit into Obama’s schedule…shame! Yeah, he would make a wonderful President alright.
His supporters are also bringing up the race card time and time again. Oh, if Clinton “steals” this away from Black Americans there will be riots in the street. What does that say about Black Americans?? I am sure many of them do not appreciate other Blacks making statements like this on their behalf.
Like it or not, the Superdelegates will decide this. And the MI and Fl votes not counting is just wrong. How unfair is it to discount two large states like that? It was their leaders, and the Republicans who cause that to happen. And what about the other states that did the same thing yet the votes WERE counted??
Lets face it…all politicians take money from all kinds of people….I do not CARE about that! I do care when politicians lie right to your face and then try to explain it away. I do care when a campaign is based on the slogan “change” and then they fail to tell us just what they change is or how it will be implemented.
Rhetoric is the name of Obama’s game. No Hillary…no vote for the Dems in the National election. I will NEVER vote for Obama, mainly because just by saying that I do not support him I am told time and time again that I am a racist. Is it possible, maybe, that people do not support him based on many other reasons?
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 26, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
The only agenda Obama wants is to use the stick of the Federal government to prod the masses into handing over the fruit of their labor to the politicians, State workers and Rezco types. After the aforementioned get their cut, whats left over can be distributed to the people (equally of course). Which won’t be much. You can count on it.
Posted by: Uncle Sam | April 26, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Jock–You are one slippery dude. What we really have before us is fear, no more, no less, and it is your fear. And your fear is that if Florida and Michigan are included prior to the nomination your candidate is screwed.
You probably are also concerned about the Edwards issue. That nagging doubt that is continually just out of reach.
It’s not about rules Jock, It’s not about fairness. It’s about your desire to have your candidate elected for your own personal agenda. 2.5 million voters disenfranchised?, who gives a damn as long as Obama gets elected. That really is your agenda.
Posted by: BikernAz | April 26, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
jock,
as an african american, I tried to like obama-
his speech at the convention-for my husband and I was good. but we did not see what all the hype was about
and we did agree he should be someone to watch and we could all see him develop and someday not be suprised to hear he was running for president.
But so soon? so for me I heard him give a speech at the convention-and the next thing I hear of him-HE’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?!
Mr. obama should have made his speech,
started to clear up( what we have now found to be) his questionably associations-put together a coalition of “new friends” with more mod.unifying views-worked a while longer got to be known on the national scene for doing good work-and THEN ran for president.
If he had done something like that he would not be in the position he is in now-yes he is in the lead-since you want to leave fl and mi out-but look at what has happened to the country and the dem. party-look at what has come to light about him.
everything about him now is tainted
people having buyers remorse,black people who support the opponent being told to be quiet. the religious community divided even more.
his shady associates coming to light
mr. ayers and his kind could have continues to live under the public eye radar (as he has for many years) and we would never have needed to talk of him.
I do not think any right mined voters wants to be talking about a possible future president and even flimsy ties to a past terrorist. many of us in the black community could have gone on for a long time not having to deal with the aftermath this election will bring after many friends being split-because we do not feel he should just be given the presidency just because he is a black man.
I could have gone to rest of my days going to my church that teaches peace and love-and never have heard of rev. wright.
I could go on and on-you know it all as well as I do.
for me all I want to deal with when picking a president-is what are they going to do for me and mine
instead this had ended up being all about barack obama
obama had said once-when asked about the presidency-”I think it is a bit premature-for me-I am not ready to be president”
I wish obama had exercised better judgement-and stuck to his own advise.
because I think he said it right then
he is not ready-and with everyday that goes by-we all realize he is not ready.
(except the black-put the brother in voter and the white sen. clinton haters
I wanted to vote for obama and if I had found he was just half as smart as sen. clinton I would have given him my vote
just to help him have a shot at it.
but for me-he is not as smart as she is
the position is to important.
between obama and Sen. Clinton
Sen. Clinton is the one who can get the job done for the american people
this time around.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Obama = Fatally Damaged = McCain in November.
The only way Hillary has a chance is to win in IN and NC
Posted by: Chipo1965 | April 26, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
The Clintons need to focus on the small towns and the middle class here in NC. The polls say that Hillary is behind almost 10 points but I believe that it will be a lot closer than that.
If she could pull out a win here in NC that would be a great victory for her campaign.
In the long run though, NC is a red state and will stay that way. Many of the states that Obama won in were red states and will not swing his way in the general.
I just wish people could see that Obama does not have a change in the General, not now anyway. 40% of Clinton supporters will either not vote or go for McCain. If you have followed McCain then you would know he is a man we can trust and that has a strong belief in America and feels that he can best unite this country. His beliefs are not static…which is a GOOD thing. He learns from his mistakes…and admits to them. He is appealing to a lot of middle of the road Dems.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | April 26, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“if Clinton “steals” this away from Black Americans there will be riots in the street … I do care when a campaign is based on the slogan “change” and then they fail to tell us just what they change is or how it will be implemented.”
Well, there could be FOOD riots in the streets before November. Maybe the point of the Democratic “leadership”‘s stupidity in elevating the “diversity” candidates is to so inflame the black and white underclasses against each other that there’s no chance of their getting together to overthrow this crap, electorally or any other way.
As to Obama’s refusal to debate, it’s not about schedules, it seems, but just a simple refusal to debate, period. Maybe he wants to avoid any questions on the Ayers-Exelon thing. I don’t CARE if he’s black, I think he’s just a front-man for corporate mobsters.
upi: “Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C., said Obama told him that if he agreed to a North Carolina debate before May 6, he would have to agree to one in Indiana.
Butterfield said Obama told him: ‘I think I want to take my message to America in a different method.’”
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
McCain will do nothing to help our economy.
Posted by: lulu | April 26, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
jgaw:
You much words do not produce wisdom….
He’s running because of what Dr. King said: “The fierce urgency of now.”
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Chipo65:
senator Obama will win!!!!
Posted by: tony | April 26, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
The only agenda Obama wants is to use the stick of the Federal government to prod the masses into handing over the fruit of their labor to the politicians, State workers and Rezco types. After the aforementioned get their cut, whats left over can be distributed to the people (equally of course). Which won’t be much. You can count on it.
The bottom line is the more money the people can keep in their pockets the more free choice the people will have to invest,spend,save and contribute to the charity of their choice. It’s called the free market. When the Federal Government takes the peoples money (by force of law) the more likely it is the money will be wasted on large do nothing bureaucracies, corrupt politicians and too numerous to count, Rezco types. At least McCain wants to let the people keep some of their money and not raise taxes like Obama and Clinton do.
Posted by: simpson | April 26, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
All you guys and gals that want Mr. Obama to win go and join the military before he takes office. You want have to worry about going to Iraq. ha ha ha…, And maybe rev. Wrong will have a faith based post in the whitehouse. Don’t forget go serve with your president. Put your money where your mouth at. Life is larger than a cpu screen and keyboard.
Wake up before it’s too Late
Posted by: YrulyBlue | April 26, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Rush, Hannity, Rove, Colter are laughing all the way to the bank as they spew out the venom and people just take it as truth.Don’t you realize what they really think….. these people are so stupid and ignorant they’ll believe anything we say.Their too stupid to think for themselves. Hillary has gotten just as bad during this campaign. She’ll crawl in the gutter with the rest of them just to win. God help us all.
Posted by: linda anderson | April 26, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
As far as Florida is concerned, we were all told to vote by the Florida Democratic party. It was on the news and all the local newspapers. There was an important tax issue to vote on and there was record turnout. If you did not vote, you did not want to be involved.
Posted by: dgh | April 26, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Yrulyblue:
Have you ever served in the military? And why would any soldier and/or Marine want to go fight in a dumb war? This war Iraq should have never been authorized and/or waged…..This is a dumb war!!!
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
dgh,
We lost twice that day, Florida can’t get voting right.
Posted by: YrulyBlue | April 26, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
jgaw:
How do you know what Dr. King would have thought about senator Obama. Dr. King had his PhD and led a bus boycott when he was 26 years young. He was the youngest to receive the Nobel Peace Prize at 34 years….As much as Dr. King accomplished, he was killed at 39….
Senator Obama is 46……Just because you learned of him during the 2004 Democratic Convention does not mean he hadn’t prepared himself. Do you think you have to know somebody before they are qualified to be president? You may very well not know who will be become president in 2016….It might be some you never heard of…even me!!!!
Do you know me? Alright then….so leave the senator alone; because he is qualified whether you knew him or not in 2001….
What if someone run through your entire life, do you think you will be qualifed to run for president?
People need to look in the mirror before they keep judging this man….
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Wisdom,
Yes I have 7 1/2 years of service, I’am a disabled Vet service connected. I served doing the first Gulf War. Yes this a stupid war, all i’m saying is put your money where your mouth is. When I joined i did not care who the pesident was, or what war was going on. In my family it is a tradtion to servre. We have lost love ones to war. No one person can stop this war. So, don’t believe the hype. Has Obama served? Have you?
Posted by: YrulyBlue | April 26, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Yrulyblue:
Thanks for your service…..Yes, I have a combined 10 plus years of service (Army & Air Force)……
President Clinton did not serve….and he did well as a Commander-in-Chief…..
Senator Obama is qualified to be Commander-in-Chief…..
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Paul Krugman:
“The attacks from the Clinton campaign have been badminton compared with the hardball Republicans will play this fall. If the relatively mild rough and tumble of the Democratic fight has been enough to knock Mr. Obama off his pedestal, what hope did he ever have of staying on it through the general election?”
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Yrulyblue:
It was senator Obama as a state senator who publicly spoke out against the war in Iraq with these words: “I am not against all wars, I am against a dumb war.”
This young state senator had the insight and understanding that Iraq was a sorry excuse to make up for the inability to get bin Laden in Afghanistan……
Senator Obama is the best defense against terrorism. This man has the natural gift to bring people together…..People can say what they want about him, but he did not give himself such an incredible friendly smile; charisma, intelligence, and brillance…..He’s been touched by God for such a time as this…..
The days of the bombs are coming to an end as it pertains to solving problems in the world….
As MLK said: “We will either learn to live together as brothers and sisters, or we will perish together as fools.”
This is where we are today…..We need diplomacy and peaceful resolutions to these world problems…….Greed and vanity are the driving forces of so much pain and violence……We have got to learn how to coexist in this multi-ethnic and diverse world……
Senator Obama is the right man for this time to help bring about unity in America and the world……note, I said: “help” bring about it….so, we need you and other people of goodwill….
The evil folks will eventually just be destroyed from the inside out…..
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Belle Starr:
anything else?
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Mel:
stop giving yourself away with that silly, worn-out “kool-aid” cliche…..please
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I think so may folks out there are envious of senator Obama…..Remember, what he has is God given…….Please stop hating the man because so many people are drawn to his message of change and his charisma and personality…..He is intelligent, capable and smart. It would nice to have a president who is so well spoken and smart…..Now, I do enjoy seeing presient Bush dancing with indigenous “people groups” from different areas of the world….but, that’s not enough!!!
Senator Obama will bring prestige and value to the office of president……I just believe there are so many envious folks that they can’t seem to help themselves…..
I guess you folks who are so envious can only imagine what it would feel like to have so many people show up at a meeting where you are speaking, right?
Stop being envious and spewing out your hateful words and go do whatever God has called you to do….
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Wisdom,
Inspired is one thing.
Fanatical is a WHOLE other story.
Obama is not the one I would consider “touched”.
Posted by: Mel | April 26, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Mel:
folks like you amaze me……He is touched, and so are others through his message of hope, change, and unity….
You just can’t seem to get it, huh?
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Senator Barack Obama may not have the experience of a governor or someone who has been a U.S. senator for mulitiple terms…..And no, he did not reach the rank of general in the U.S. Army, Marine, etc…etc…..
But, he does not need to be a governor to be president…..There are plenty of governors he can draw from…He does not have to be a general to be president, he will have military advisors….
The presidency is not a one man show…..Anyone who tries to do this job without seeking out others may get stuck in another type of Vietnam and Iraq…….dumb wars…
So, senator Obama is well qualified to be president….In fact, some of you may also potentially have what it takes……So, stay in school, do your job well, and do whatever else you are led to do…..You’ll get help along the way……Only one person can be president at a time….and the time is right for Obama in 08…..
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
jgaw:
vote for whoever you want to……
once again, your words are void of substance…
Posted by: Wisdom | April 26, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
wisdom
and so are your words
it is so interesting to me how obama supporters cannot talk about the issues of this election.
because they do not know what the real issues are.
I wish obama would stop preaching to you all and start telling you exactly what he is going to do for you.
a vote for obama or mccain
is a vote to have a welfare, and soup line coming soon near you.
if you want healthcare for all
and affordable college and this economy back on track vote for Sen. Clinton.
Posted by: jgaw | April 26, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Whoever has the most delegates will win the nomination. So it’s really up to the superdelegates at this point
Posted by: erin | April 26, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
It is your patriotic duty to question the people who want to lead our great nation, not follow blindly like they are some rock star and you are some groupie.
Hitler lead while his followers went along blindly.
“Those who fail to learn history’s lessons are destined to repeat its mistakes”
Posted by: Mel | April 26, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Wisdom, I, for one, don’t hate Sen. Obama. I believe he is very charismatic and certainly a decent person. But I believe he is too inexperienced and that he has used poor judgement when it comes to the people with whom he has associated over the past 20 years. However, my main objection to Sen. Obama is based on his ideology. He (and Sen. Clinton) propose wealth redistribution, doing away with our ownership society and giving goverment more control over our lives. If his (or Sen. Clinton’s) plans for womb-to-tomb health care are ever implemented, eventually private medical insurance will be eliminated and the federal government will take full control over our nation’s health care system. Then the federal bureaucracy in charge of the health care system will mandate what we can or cannot eat and drink, as well as what products we can or cannot purchase all in the name of preventative health care.
Posted by: James Danley | April 26, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Wisdom how selve serving and condescending of you to think people are envious of Obama, now that’s an elitist’s attitude if I ever read one. Just the reason the other half of the democratic party won’t drink the kool-aid. You Obamanites just don’t get it do you? You come flamming on with your high and mighty rhetoric thinking everyone should be thinking just like you. Well guess what, look at the numbers you only have a mandate from HALF the electorate, not 60,70,80 or 90%,HALF! That means HALF don’t agree with your candidate,sheesh! You people sound like he is running away with the popular vote and he is NOT. Wisdom what an oxymoron, without the oxy.
Posted by: Average Joe | April 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
It is so amazing what an ignorant society we live in. The politicians know this and they play on the ignirance of people.
William C. (“Bill”) Ayers (born 1944) is a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago who has worked on school reform in Chicago. He was a 1960s-era radical and a founder of the Weatherman group, which later became the Weather Underground.
Now, I hope you obama haters would ask all those who graduated from Bill Ayers class to return their certificates. I also suggest that their fees be refunded by The University of Chicago.
Also, they must be made to rufund any salaries they may have earned with their degrees.
If you think education is expensive, illiteracy and Ignorance are deadly.
Posted by: Churchill | April 26, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
It took Mccain 40 yrs to recognize Rev Martin Luther king and acknowledged that his vote against him was wrong. What a hipocrite. How can this man be called a man of honor? What about William Ayers?
Posted by: Churchill | April 26, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
It took Mccain 40 yrs to recognize Rev Martin Luther king and acknowledged that his vote against him was wrong. What a hipocrite. How can this man be called a man of honor? What about William Ayers?
Posted by: Churchill | April 26, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The relationship with Ayers is a lot serious than the one with Wright. Both shows bad judgment, though. So I am also surprised and pondered why the media is not making the case at all out of this while they talked little too much about Wright. The relationship with Wright to certain degree can be forgiven, but with Ayers? We shouldn’t forgive!
Posted by: dragon | April 26, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I guess anyone who has ever been associated with Ayers should be shunned and hung out to dry. Maybe the University of Illinois should just be shut down. Oh, maybe that won’t be enough for some people. So what do we do with all these people then.
Posted by: lily | April 26, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
lily writes:
“So what do we do with all these people then.”
Just don’t put ‘em in the White House. The country might not be READY — just a guess — for a neo-Stalinist president who also claims to be “post-partisan”. (Eight years of know-it-all totalitarianism from BushCo hasn’t worked out all that well, has it?)
Posted by: Belle Starr | April 26, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
I’m sure that anyone suspicious, or who lives in Chicago, not matter what, whatever connection, even if it is parking his car close to someone suspicious, this someone’s relashionship with be so magnified tha we couldn’t even attempt to understand the truth. Look how the media portrayed Obama badly bacause of his pastor. See the interview at PBS with Bill Moyers, you will understand.
Posted by: eli | April 26, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Hey Calli,
I’m sure you have not seen the interview!
Lets be responsible
You are being blinded by fear
Posted by: eli | April 26, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I just have to laugh at anyone suggesting Obama has a relationship with a terorrist…that’s just pathetic. Obama knows lots of people. He doesn’t do background checks on everyone he knows. He wasn’t at those sermons where Wright said bad things about America, and he had nothing to do with this Ayers guy’s terrorist activities.
People like Lou Dobbs are just frothing at the mouth trying to find ways to discredit Obama because these old white guys like him are scared to death that someone not from their kind might be president some day.
Posted by: Paul | April 26, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Well, as usual McCain is right and Obama is wrong, and a loser. He has been emasculated by a woman and now we shall watch him be torn apart by the Republicans and watch his pastor sell him down the river, faster than he can throw his white grandmama under the bus. You go McCain, You rock!
Posted by: Jackie | April 27, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Tom Coburn has never bombed any building….he never advocated that kids should kill their parents…
He did not deserve the comparison. Obama’s grandma didn’t deserve that comparison either. Ferraro should not have been painted a racist with Obama’s word brush.
I’m pretty sure that Tom Coburn does not feel like Obama is much of a friend right now.
It is not off topic to take a look at Obama’s atrocious judgement…his demeaning comparisons of people…or his affiliations with radical people and churches.
I find myself inclined to believe that Obama is not anti-American. Then I remember in his interview with CNN (Anderson Cooper) he said that patriotism is “hyperbole” and I wonder. Patriotism is something that some of us actually feel……….and it scares me a lot we are perhaps going to elect a man who doesn’t feel it at all.
The Republicans constant crying wolf about patriotism may very well cause people to discount the truth when we are hearing it from the candidate himself.
Posted by: Jackie | April 27, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
Obama criticizes McCain for engaging in “politics of association”…. Obama does the same thing, compares McCain to Bush which is a poor comparison.
Obama is such a faker. Bottom line, he is fundraising with an admitted terrorist, and people want to elect this man.
Posted by: Joe | April 27, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Karen, you wrote: “Obama had no friendship with Ayers…” It is quite possible that there is nothing there. But Sen. Obama’s own remarks keep the questions alive. Here is a quote from Sen. Obama: “(Mr. Ayers is) a guy who lives in my neighborhood…not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” So they have on occasion exchanged ideas? Were these exchanges only during the board meetings? Or were there other times that they got together?
Posted by: James Danley | April 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Hillary wants another debate for what the last one got nothing accomplished except for the curators to prove that they could be tough on Obama and soft on Hillary.The media has not been that tough on Hillary to began with, thats because they know that if they start asking Hillary the real truth about past, that her campaign would already be done.To prove that you can look at how much she has lied and the media only reports her lies for a short time,but let Obama speak in the wrong way and apologize it is kept in the news again and again.Example of the the bias of the media when Hillary lied about Bosnia there were reporters on that trip with but not one came forward to say that it did not happen the way she said.But as soon as it was made known that it did not happen that away the media played on it for a short time.The republicans are wanting her too win she easy.Thats why you have Rush pea brain on the radio trying to cause confusion and getting republicans out vote Hillary where they can change their affiliations back and forth.Then you have Mcforgetful who was in cohorts with the Keating Five who swindled thousands of elderly out of their money.So I guess he has forgotten that to.The republicans are afraid of Obama so thats why they can keep up the attacks on him but much of it has no substance.when have Hillary and McCain up on the hill with alredy corrupted. I will take a chance with Obama and an end to the war and who wants to listen to the people and do the right thing for the country than to hav e someone who people on hill favors.
Posted by: damehen | April 27, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
A drunken Irishman who sleeps around, whose boy thinks catholics act like him.
Posted by: Nelly | April 27, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
iT MIGHT SERVE PEOPLE WELL TO LOOK INTO HIS PAST, AND I THINK IT VERY MUCH MATTERS WEATHER YOU SIT IN A RACIST CHURCH FOR THAT LONG ,THEN LIE ABOUT IT ,AND YOUR CLOSE TIES WITH PEOPLE BEING INDITED FOR FRAUD,HE SHOULD BE ONE OF THEM,AND MIGHT BE!!! HE ISNT ELECTIBLE…..CLINTON IS ,SHE HAS BEEN UNDER THE MICROSCOPE FOR DECADES AND SERVIVED, IF HE WONT DEBATE HE IS SCARED TO,BECAUSE OF HOW STUPID HE LOOKED INFRONT OF THE COUNTRY IN PA. I THINK ALL OF THE QUESTIONS WERE FINE BUT HE STILL DIDNT ANSWER THEM TO MY SATISFACTION,ASK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK HIM ANYTHING THAT IS QUESTIONABLE AND GET A REAL ANSWER THAT IS BELEIVABLE, HE IS A LIAR HOW MANNY TIMES DOSE HE HAVE TO PROVE IT TO YOU!!! I HOPE THE REST OF THE STATES AND TERRITORRIES ARE PAYING BETTER ATTENTION THEN YOU YOUNG UNPATRIOTIC BLIND FAITH FOLLOWING MORONS AND RACE VOTING JACK A33! WE NEED A STRONG LEADER TO GET US OUT OF THIS PILE OF DUNG BUSH LEFT US IN AND IF NOTHING ELSE YOU CANT SAY HILLERY IS WEAK OR UNPREPARED,AS ALL IVE SEEN IS BO ANSWER SECOND AND SAY I AGREE WITH SENNATER CLINTON, I HAVEANT HEARD ANY PLANS THAT ARE HIS OWN AND A GREAT SPEAKER HE MAYBE BUT WE DONT NEED A SNAKE OIL SALESMAN RIGHT NOW WE NEED SOME ONE WITH GUTS KNOW HOW AND AN INSIDE TRACK DOSANT HURT EITHER,WHEN SHE GETS THE POPULAR VOTE ,SHE HAS IT IN THE BAG,AND SHE WILL GET THE POPULAR VOTE!! IF ANYONE CARES ABOUT OUR COUNTRY,AND HAS PRIDE IN BEING AN AMERICAN!
Posted by: RELD | April 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Seems like we have a tremendous amount of “SMOKESCREEN” issues comming to the forefront, designed espeecially, to keep American voters COMPLETELY in the dark!!! ~ It seems, also, that NOBODY is bringing up the fact, that Obama was and is promoted and supported by the infamous Chicago Political Machine, which has been in business since the 19th century, and has NEVER been about CHANGE, of any kind!!! ~ Keeping the power and using that power to control all of Chicagoland, by maintaining the status quo, at ALL costs, be their actions legal or otherwise, is what this Machine has always been about!!!! ~ Americans NEED to know about who is promoting the candidates, instead of being “SMOKESCREENED”, by the media!!!! ~ Check your facts!!! ~ Can you spell “G_A_N_G_S_T_E_R_S”???
Posted by: Arbuckle Doc | April 27, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
i FIND ALL OF YOU ,STILL SUPPORTING BHO TO BE INCREDABLY INSAIN AND SICKINING, IF YOU THINK ITS FINE TO GO TO A RACIST CHURCH, WITH HEAVY ANTI AMERICAN BS AND HANGING WITH HIS GANGSTA HOMMIES MAKES HIM A LEADER, OR CAPABLE OF LEADING THIS COUNTRY,HE IS ACTING LIKE A COUNT RE. HE SHOULDNT TRY TO LEAD,IF HE IS TO WEAK TO DEBATE! HIS CHICKEN SHTT IS COMING HOME TO ROOST!!! I DIDNT KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING A RACE BASED ON RACE, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL BE SAYING IF HILLERY HAD AS A MINISTER DAVID DUKES AND SHE HUNG OUT WITH THE KKK AND SAT TRU SPEACHES AND SERMONS ABOUT THROWING A ROPE OVER A BIG BRANCH, WHAT IS THE DIFFERANCE WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD ,WHY WONT HE ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR BE MAN ENOUGH TO DEBATE ON SOME ISSUES,CHANGE ALL HE DOSE IS CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND EVERONE LETS HIM GET AWAY WITH IT BE CAUSE They are afraid of being called a racist when thats his spiritual addvissors job he is more rasist then david duke
Posted by: RELD | April 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
i FIND ALL OF YOU ,STILL SUPPORTING BHO TO BE INCREDABLY INSAIN AND SICKINING, IF YOU THINK ITS FINE TO GO TO A RACIST CHURCH, WITH HEAVY ANTI AMERICAN BS AND HANGING WITH HIS GANGSTA HOMMIES MAKES HIM A LEADER, OR CAPABLE OF LEADING THIS COUNTRY,HE IS ACTING LIKE A COUNT RE. HE SHOULDNT TRY TO LEAD,IF HE IS TO WEAK TO DEBATE! HIS CHICKEN SHTT IS COMING HOME TO ROOST!!! I DIDNT KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING A RACE BASED ON RACE, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL BE SAYING IF HILLERY HAD AS A MINISTER DAVID DUKES AND SHE HUNG OUT WITH THE KKK AND SAT TRU SPEACHES AND SERMONS ABOUT THROWING A ROPE OVER A BIG BRANCH, WHAT IS THE DIFFERANCE WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD ,WHY WONT HE ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR BE MAN ENOUGH TO DEBATE ON SOME ISSUES,CHANGE ALL HE DOSE IS CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND EVERONE LETS HIM GET AWAY WITH IT BE CAUSE They are afraid of being called a racist when thats his spiritual addvissors job he is more rasist then david duke
Posted by: RELD | April 27, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
What did mcaine say that was disrespectful,I think he is at least right on target, he just gave a pass on mr wright for now as well as the others !!!! wait till they pull out there big guns, what are you going to say then??? the party leaders have already saID THAT IT WILL GO TO THE ONE WITH THEW POPULAR VOTE,NOT PLEGED DELIGATES, KEEP UP WITH THE PROGRAM!
Posted by: RELD | April 27, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
google…global poverty act obama and see what this man is all about.
Posted by: Linda D | April 27, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Funny… BO associates for many years as friend and mentee with Rev. Wright, and his response is,
“Well, Bill Clinton is in a picture with him!”
Then it’s discovered that BO has associated for years as friend and political ally with Terrorist William Ayers, and BO’s response? “Well, Bill Clinton pardoned two of the Weathermen!”
(Who were actually two women who had already served many years’ jail time, and had been accessories, rather than direct perpetrators.)
First of all, BO is running against Hillary, not Bill. If Bill made an error in judgment, it’s not Hillary’s doing. Second, we don’t know why Bill made that decision, but at least he was not the terrorists’ friends. If those two women he pardoned had said, “I wish I could have bombed more,” as Ayers did recently, I’m sure Bill wouldn’t have pardoned them. They’d still be in jail!
All the double talk in the world can’t get BO out of this mess. What do Michelle O, Rev. Wright, Hamas, and William Ayers all have in common? A friend who says that he likes everything about them except one thing: the fact that they hate America. Smells fishy, doesn’t it?
Posted by: april | April 27, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Obama why are you so eager to take power?
do you have the resume for president?
in 2005, you became a senator, in 2007, you missed over 80% vote in senate.
are you a responsible senator?
Posted by: typical white person | April 27, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Obama worked for Ayers for 8 years. How can he claim not to know him.
Unbelievable. Michelle Obama worked with Ayers wife for 3 years. Amazing.
He will do anything to lie and hide the devious people in his past.
The one’s we know about already include Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Larry Sinclair and Donald Young.
Posted by: Chris | April 28, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Obama’s political career was launched in a 1995 meeting at Ayers’ home. His own campaign states that they maintain “friendly” relations. Obama’s defense is that he was 8 years old when Ayers and his Weather Underground buddies were planting bombs at the Pentagon, the U.S. capitol and other places. True. But Obama was 40 when Ayers said publicly that he doesn’t regret setting bombs. In fact he said, “I feel we didn’t do enough”. I would not maintain friendly relations with an unrepentant terrorist–wouldn’t even shake his hand. I hope he will not get one vote in Indiana or N. C. or the other upcoming states because of these “distractions”-i.e., the things that most reveal character and core beliefs.
Posted by: virginia | April 28, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
There goes McCain and the righteous right again. The Right doesn’t make up all the BS but they are good at smelling it out and stirring it up. They forget that plenty of their own politicos have been caught or are in jail for some serious stuff. Hillary has learned well from the opposition playbook. People seem to enjoy getting messed with to distract them from the real issues. Facts like:
the country being in the worst shape that it has ever been in.
85% of people are worse off than in 2000
A trillion dollar surplus then is a trillion dollar deficit now
the public is not only divided but now suspicious of eachother
The country’s infrastructure is falling apart from neglect
And the uniter Clinton has managed to divide all the different groups the Dems have. The GOP must be rolling in the aisles.
Posted by: all | April 28, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Thank you Senator for running for president and giving this nation real hope for the future. Elitist? Terrorist? These tired political ploys will not decide my vote. My children and grandchildren are depending on me to make the right choice and not be hooked by politics as usual.
Posted by: Radmanaustin | April 29, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Let me ask the question; do you honestly believe the U.S. Senate’s “Foreign Relations Committee” would have a person on their committee “NOT CLEARED”. I would bet that each Senator has a security clearance which means a complete back ground check before being permitted into the Senate. So stop with the Anti-American sentiment to paint Senator Obama has someone we don’t know or someone with an agenda to change America. If anyone has changed this country look at our current President!
Posted by: Martin | April 30, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm