A Double-Standard for White Preacher-Politician Pals?

yep, they sure do.
sure would be nice if the media took the blinders off and attached the same scrutiny to mccain and his associations that they’ve been pouring on obama.

Hagee wasn’t McCain’s spiritual adviser. Rev. Wright is an idiot, anti-American sermon. He must shut up!

I predict that there will be many 527 attack ads against John McCain using Hagee including his the Catholic Church is the GREAT WHORE”. How is that going to go over well in Pennsylvania which is a third Catholic?
Obama may have had a 20 year relationship with his Pastor but has since denounced him and rejected him.
Since McCain sought and is excited about Hagee’s endorsement, attack ads probably will be used against him.

Guam is the trend, and Indiana and North Carolina the end. John McCain has alread lost. Hail our new Messiah and President, Barack Obama, who has been sent by God, to save the US and the free world and to deliver us from evil, and to make our nation and the world into one, free from racial, ethnic, religious and national divide. Say “Yes We Can” to join with your voices, a movement, a nation, and a world. Lord God, our father, thank you for your son, born amongst us, to unite all of us under one banner. Rise O Barcak Obama, son of god, and free us from all evil. Hallelujah! Amen!

There’s a double standard for Obama in general. The MSM press has been almost silent on William Ayers. Here’s a picture of Ayers stomping on an American flag in 2001 as part of a publicity stunt to promote his book. And it is now becoming known that the Ayers-Obama friendship was actually an employer-employee relationship for 8 years (in the same article).

Yes! they do have a point! There is clearly a double standard here. And the issue is not only the relationship between McCain and Hagee, but all the other extremist ministers who have close relationships with McCain.
Some erroneously claim that it is different because Hagee is not McCain’s pastor, well there is one (the name escapes me) whom McCain has called his spiritual guide who has the same crazy extremist views as Hagee.
Just by trying to split hairs between who sat in the pew longer screams of a double standard! The point is that McCain actively sought the endordement of Hagee–which means that knowing all the inflamatory, extremist and anti-American poison that Hagee spews, McCain sought his support. That speaks volumes.
If its ok for one candidate to be judged in the way Obama has been judged, then all candidates should be judged by the same standards. Accordingly, there should be the sound-bite tapes of Hagee’s worse declarations, along with the rest of the christian extremist group supporting McCain and even Clinton.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Fair is far. Serve them up!

The website of Obama’s church says the chruch is founded on the black liberation theology of James Cone.
Cone says: “What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world.”
And Wright ahs said that he has no disagreement with Cone.
That’s beyond anything anyone else’s pastor has had to say.

The church is MORE than its pastor. The church has and always will be about community.
If you don’t believe that to be true, then why are catholics not leaving the catholic church in droves? Is it that they respect all the pedophiles or is it that they just like all the attention?

No…clinton has Farrakhan.
Farrakhan was praised by Rendell and bill clinton. Check you tube.
Obama did not praise Farrakhan.

I just can’t believe that the MSM has been covering Wright like a “missing white child,” [Daily Show].
Nothing remotely negative about HRC seems to be allowed lately. How about a moment of Paul v. Clinton?
Nooooo! That would “close the deal” and the MSM needs to support their candidate.
For the ABC debate, even “Boy” George Stephanopoulos took his questions from Sean Innanity Hannity [on his show].
Paul v. Clinton needs to be covered. People have already been penalized for this for the Clintons (remember, they have had people serve jail terms for some of their other criminal activities).
Others have taken the criminal blame for them in this case but the civil case is ongoing.
This is similar to the OJ Simpson legal situation except that OJ was found not guilty in criminal court but lost the civil case for damages because he was actually guilty in the eyes of the civil court.
The Clintons have NOT been found “not guilty,” they have just used sacrificial lambs to take the blame in criminal court. The civil case is the issue right now.
The judge let HRC out of testifying until AFTER the November election then told HRC’s lawyers to say, “Hello,” to his friend Bill.

Trying to compare Pastor Hagee with Wright is ridiculous. Wright was Obama’s mentor, close friend. Pastor Hagee only endorsed McCain. Liberals grasping at straws trying to justify this big stain on Obama.

Most black americans understand the double standard, as it is a part of their every day life.
So it doesn’t matter at this point WHAT Obama does.
Watch how white america continues to scutinize Rev Wright and William Ayers….and not much about clinton or mccain. This has become the norm.

jlynne, we will never move past this kind of paradigm as long as you have the sean hannity’s and the rush limbaugh’s continually pushing racist sentiment and double standards to their listeners.

Does 20 years equal 5 minutes?
naw, No one believes it does.

Are the media and other “Obama supporters” missing the point on purpose?
Nobody cares about Rev. Wright. They CARE about the way Obama handled the situation. Or rather, didn’t.
For two weeks (?) the American people were told by Obama supporters that THEY should make the effort to “forgive” Rev. Wright’s comments. That this was the “Black Church” experience that White folks should overlook. Then Obama dumps him.
Obama doesn’t notice the anti-American comments Wright made for twenty years — and then suddenly wakes up one day and realizes, “wow! This guy is hurting my candidacy. I need to distance myself from him.”
Does ANYYBODY care what this episode and the way Obama and the media handled it have done to the millions of African-Americans who DON’T subscribe to that kind of hate-preaching?

I diagree. The great thing about the First Amendment is that people like Rush Limbaugh and people like Reverend Wright can say exactly what they think. We know the full spectrum of views and we can pick and choose what we agree with. We can push extremist out to the edge of society without turning them into martyrs and claim the center for ourselves. I think the most dangerous enemy is the one we know nothing about and the worst thing we can do is tune out the people we disagree with–because then we never learn and we never grow.

This whole campaign has been held to a double standard – and innuendo.
“As far as I know”, guilt by association, and the eternal “electibility” as code word for “he’s black, don’t you know”, and worst of all – the constant throwing of the concept “if the black guy is elected, whites will have a rough time” to scare people.
Sen. Obama has conducted himself in an exemplary manner – it is thoroughly uplifting to see an individual who doesn’t pander needlessly just to win.

Aston….AGAIN, it doesn’t matter what is said at this point.
It has become disgusting to listen to people push these relationships with blinders on.
I won’t say ‘unfair’ because you already know that, but I will say deceitful and dishonest, because that is exactly what it has become.
Your threats don’t mean much of anything at this point. We already know where all this is going. It just becomes painful to watch. But it is not our judgment that should be your concern.

The most important question still remains. How will Mr. Obama’s association with this movement influence (the black liberation theology, the foundation of his church) his beliefs, ideas, and actions as president of the United States? This seems a just question to ask of a person running for President. For some reason the campaign, his wife and Obama all say “let’s move on” and just discuss issues. I think this is one of the MOST valid issues of this campaign.

I’ve read it is well known in Chicago about Rev.Wright and his radical sermons.
Seems like Obama was the only one that didn’t know. Obama looks like a fool by denying he never really knew his pastor.
I bet Obama would glady choose the Hagee controversy over Rev.Wright.

Not only did they get it right, but Pastor Hagee comments about the Hurrican Katrina victims was down right wrong.
THE MEDIA SUCH ABC, MSNBC, CNN AND LORD FOXNEWS SLANDERED REV WRIGHT NAME.
REV WRIGHT SHOW FILE A LAWSUITE FOR SLANDER BASED ON THEM JUST PLAYING A CLIP OF WHO HE IS
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR GAME IF THE MEDIA PLAYED PASTOR HAGEE COMMENTS ALONG SIDE THE REV WRIGHT’S, BUT THEY DIDN’T WHICH MAKES IT LOOK RACIAL..AND IT WAS..
REV WRIGHT SHOULD FILE A LAW SUIT..

But let’s go back 20 years. At least 52 sermons per year . . . . . we are talking about over 1,000 sermons (opinions) about politics, religion and social trends over 20 years. The McClinton camp is only talking about 1 minute of clips out of 3 sermons.
That’s 3 minutes of “questionable” opinions out of probably 20,000 minutes of speaking about controversial topics. That is less disagreement than I have had with my mother, wife, best friends and kids in month let alone 20 years in normal life.
If I denounced everybody after an opinion that I didn’t like I would have no friends or family. How foolishly high a standard to use.
You people amaze me.

What a whiny bunch. Obama gets kid gloves treatment from the media for most of a year. Then, he gets smacked upside the head by that same media, just like Clinton and McCain have been getting hit all along. Equal treatment is now seen as unfair to Obama. This Hagee/Wright equivalence just won’t sell to anyone except the die hard Obamabots.

Not only did they get it right, but Pastor Hagee comments about the Hurrican Katrina victims was down right wrong.
THE MEDIA SUCH ABC, MSNBC, CNN AND LORD KNOWS FOXNEWS SLANDERED REV WRIGHT NAME.
REV WRIGHT SHOULD FILE A LAWSUITE FOR SLANDER BASED ON THE MEDIA JUST PLAYING A CLIP OF WHO HE IS
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR GAME IF THE MEDIA PLAYED PASTOR HAGEE COMMENTS ALONG SIDE THE REV WRIGHT’S, BUT THEY DIDN’T WHICH MAKES IT LOOK RACIAL..AND IT WAS..
REV WRIGHT SHOULD FILE A LAW SUIT..
INFACT MICHELLE AND BARACK IF THIS AFFECT HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING PRESIDENT SHOULD FILE A LAW SUIT AS WELL.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR MEDIA TO HAVE BEHAVED THIS WAY..
SOME OF THE MEDIA LIKE HANNITY CLAIM IT WAS UNPatriotic of words that Rev Wright said, but what Rev Wright said was true..WELL ITS UNPATRIOTIC FOR OUR U S MEDIA TO ENGAGE IN A MODERN DAY LYNCHING ALL BASED ON NOTHING..THATS UNPATRIOTIC.
GOD DOES DAMN AMERICAN FOR ITS WRONG DOING AMERICAN ISN’T ALWAY BLESSED..
MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT PLACED THE AIDS VIRUS IN THE SYSTEM..ITS POSSIBLE WHAT ABOUT THOSE BLACK AIRMENS THEY EXPERIMENTED ON..IT MAY OF NOT JUST BEEN PUT THERE FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, BUT AMERICANS TO LOWER THE POPULATION..IS THAT POSSIBLE..
OF COURSE..
JOHN MCCAIN JUST SAID RECENTLY THAT OUR TROOPS IS IN IRAQ FOR OIL..REV WRIGHT SAID WE ARE OVER THERE BECAUSE OF A LIE..
THEY BOTH SAID THE SAME THING..
WHY WAS REV WRIGHT SLANDERED NATIONAL TV…

These sermons show his attitudes and outlooks. Even if sermons like these were not typical, they show us the inside of the reverend. Hussein Obama (he picked this name for himself so he should wear it proudly now) said this man is spiritual advisor and mentor. Are you going to have amnesia on this FACT now?

At a time when the political arena is vying for our attention, shouldn’t we be directing our attention to the “only” solution for mankind’s problems, God’s kingdom? You know… the one that we’ve all prayed for to come (Mt.6:9,10). But, you might ask “What is the Kingdom? How can it help us?” The Bible gives evidence that it is a real government that will last forever. It will put an end to all human governments (Daniel 2:44) It will end wars, sickness, food shortages, housing problems and even death itself. It will return the earth to it’s original paradise condition. God’s government has a ruler chosen by God himself…his Son, Jesus. God’s heavenly government is already ruling in heaven and is poised to establish it’s rule over the whole earth. Isn’t this a beautiful thing to look forward to?

YES it is a story — and it should be an even bigger one than Obama-Wright!
Obama had a relationship with Wright based on Obama’s search for faith. They were bonded by Christ. Wright’s politics were not the reason for the relationship.
By comparison, McCain actively sought a relationship with Hagee because of and for his politics. I find that much more offensive and relevant to the campaign.

Not only did they get it right, but Pastor Hagee comments about the Hurrican Katrina victims was down right wrong.
THE MEDIA SUCH ABC, MSNBC, CNN AND LORD KNOWS FOXNEWS SLANDERED REV WRIGHT NAME.
REV WRIGHT SHOULD FILE A LAWSUITE FOR SLANDER BASED ON THE MEDIA JUST PLAYING A CLIP OF WHO HE IS
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAIR GAME IF THE MEDIA PLAYED PASTOR HAGEE COMMENTS ALONG SIDE THE REV WRIGHT’S, BUT THEY DIDN’T WHICH MAKES IT LOOK RACIAL..AND IT WAS..
REV WRIGHT SHOULD FILE A LAW SUIT..
INFACT MICHELLE AND BARACK IF THIS AFFECT HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING PRESIDENT SHOULD FILE A LAW SUIT AS WELL.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR MEDIA TO HAVE BEHAVED THIS WAY..
SOME OF THE MEDIA LIKE HANNITY CLAIM IT WAS UNPatriotic of words that Rev Wright said, but what Rev Wright said was true..WELL ITS UNPATRIOTIC FOR OUR U S MEDIA TO ENGAGE IN A MODERN DAY LYNCHING ALL BASED ON NOTHING..THATS UNPATRIOTIC.
GOD DOES DAMN AMERICAN FOR ITS WRONG DOING AMERICAN ISN’T ALWAY BLESSED..
MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT PLACED THE AIDS VIRUS IN THE SYSTEM..ITS POSSIBLE WHAT ABOUT THOSE BLACK AIRMENS THEY EXPERIMENTED ON..IT MAY OF NOT JUST BEEN PUT THERE FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS, BUT AMERICANS TO LOWER THE POPULATION..IS THAT POSSIBLE..
OF COURSE..
JOHN MCCAIN JUST SAID RECENTLY THAT OUR TROOPS IS IN IRAQ FOR OIL..REV WRIGHT SAID WE ARE OVER THERE BECAUSE OF A LIE..
THEY BOTH SAID THE SAME THING..
WHY WAS REV WRIGHT SLANDERED ON NATIONAL TV…
WHY I BELIEVE BECAUSE HE IS A BLACK MAN..AND A BLACK IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT..
SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN
SOMETHING THAT HADN’T HAPPEN IN OVER A HUNDREDS YEARS..
I HOPE TO SEE NOT ONLY A AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT, BUT A BORN AMERICAN ASIAN, MIDDLE EASTERN, HISPANIC AND NATIVE..IF YOU ARE BORN IN THE THE UNITED STATES AND YOU ARE A UNITED STATES CITIZENS WITH MOUNTAINS OF FAMILY HISTORY IN AMERICAN WHY CAN’T YOU BE PRESIDENT..
WHY ONLY A WHITE MEN..
THIS REV WRIGHTS WAS UNFAIR..THE MEDIA SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO REV WRIGHT AND TO
MICHELLE AND BARACK OBAMA
THE MEDIA SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR THE UNPATRIOTIC ACTIONS AGAINST REV WRIGHT,, REV WRIGHT CHURCH AND OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY.
WHICH ONE IS MORE DAMAGING
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH RAPE
OR REV WRIGHT RANT
RAPE VERSE RANT..
HMMM.
AND YET YOU ALL GOT A OPINION
FIRST OF ALL I DON’T WANT TO HEAR THAT DOUBLE STANDARD THAT MCCAIN DIDN’T GO TO HAGEE CHURCH HE EXCEPTED HIS ENDORSEMENT WHICH MEANS MCCAIN EXCEPTED EVERYTHING HAGEE BELIEVES
TWENTY YEARS..ONE YEAR..ONE DAY A BAD PASTOR IS A BAD PASTOR YOU SEE NOW WE WANT DOUBLE STANDARDS..
IF SOMEONE TOOK MONEY FROM YOU FOR ONE DAY OR FOR TEN YEARS HOW WOULD YOU FEEL. WOULD YOU SAY OH IT WAS ONLY FOR ONE DAY HE’S NOT WRONG…COME ON STOP THE DOUBLE STANDARDS STOP THE RACISM
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PREIST RAPED THOSE BOYS
SO ALL WHO ARE CONNECTED TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SHOULD BE IN THE NEWS LIKE THEY DID REV WRIGHT..
HAGEE SAID HURRICAN KATRINA PEOPLE DESERVED WHAT THEY GOT
SO MCCAIN SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HAGEE
THIS IS FAIRNESS..BUT WHEN YOU SEE JUST REV WRIGHT BEING PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAN YOU KNOW ITS RACISM ITS RACISM BY MEDIA..AND THE PUBLIC WHO CAN CAST JUDGEMENT ON REV WRIGHT BUT NOT THERE OWN CATHOLIC CHURCH OR HAGEE..
THIS DOUBLE STANDARD
THESE BOYS WERE RAPED NOT RANTED AT
BUT RAPED
WHAT HAGEE SAID DAMNED AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO WERE AFFECTED BY HURRICAN KATRINA..
BUT THE MEDIA AND HILLARY AND MCCAIN SUPPORTERS CAN HARP ON REV WRIGHT..
IF I WAS REV WRIGHT I WOULD FILE A LAW SUIT AGAINST THE MEDIA
FOR ONLY PLAYING CLIPS OF THE WHOLE SERMON
AND FOR SLANDERING MY NAMES
THAT’S EXACTILY WHAT I WOULD DO…

I wish tucc would just let us listen to one of their good sermons-as obama calls it.
Obama said he never heard what is being played on national tv. he only heard the good compassionate sermons. well just let us hear a 30sec sound bite of one.
and oscar meyer, from what i can tell obama is a good family man-his girls are beautiful and seem well behaved
but obama was the one who also said if one of his girls made a mistake-he didn’t want her to be punished with a baby.-now his stand about abortion maybe the same as sen. clinton. (he copies everything she does-so I am sure it is the same) so he copies sen.clinton stand on abortion-but what we hear exibited in that statement he made-points to his inexperience-and also what happens when he talks without a prepared speech. him using the terms
make a mistake-and punished with a baby”
a more seasoned politician would have been a little more tactful-a lot of women who could have had abortions but did not-did not really see the baby as a punishment. So, oscar meyer, he maybe a normal family man, but I think he really comes up short on knowing the issues and how to present-off the cuff.
if obama cannot talk about the issues off the cuff-he does not know the issues.
well sen. clinton is on abc-gotta go
laindiana-I would just like to hear a little of the good sermons obama says he has said.

Let’s see now….Senator Clinton went to the Rev Wright’s church for 20 YEARS!! Rev Wright spewed his hate message all over the networks for 3 days!
I am sure all the OBAMABOT would be praying for her soul!
Am I wright? But of course the love that would pour out to her would be overwhelming, her judgement and spirit would be revered! Hillary would still be so very perfect and not at all tainted by association!

MCCAIN EXCEPT HAGEE ENDORSEMENT SO HE EXCEPTED HAGEE COMMENTS OF ABOUT HURRICAN KATRINA AND HE EXCEPTED HAGEE VIEWS OF WHAT HE SAID..ITS A SIMPLE AS THAT.
BUT EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT REV WRIGHT SAID..TO EXCEPT SOMEONE VIEWS WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER OF THEIR CHURCH IS WORSE..IT TELLS YOU THAT HE DID IT FOR POLITICAL REASON..
THAT’S UNPATRIOTIC.
ATTENDING A CHURCH IS MORE THAT THAN THE PASTOR..ITS YOUR INNER BELIEF..THERE WERE MANY TIMES WHEN I WENT TO AND I DIDN’T AGREE ON WHAT THE PASTOR SAID, BUT WHEN I WAS IN GOD’S TEMPLE
I FOUND GOD ON MY OWN WHAT I GOT OF THE CHURCH IS GOD LOVE..THE PASTOR IS JUST A MESSAGER NOT ALWAYS IS HE MESSAGE SOMETHING ONE AGREES WITH, BUT IN THE END
THE CHURCH IS GOD TEMPLE..I WORSHIP IN MY HEART..
WHAT WAS DONE TO OBAMA AND REV WRIGHT WAS WRONG..

Senator Clinton’s honesty is always questioned in the media and polls. Yet, Obama’s honesty is in full view at the present. The Newsweek, May 12th issue is reporting that Oprah Winfrey was well aware of the extreme view points of Rev. Wright and left the church in the 1990′s. Why didn’t Obama make the same choice?

This is a question that it would only be approaching fair to ask after McCain had accepted a Hagee endorsement for the 20th year! Even then accepting an endorsement does NOT, in any way, equate with sitting in a pew most Sunday and listening to the full sermon.

MCCAIN EXCEPT HAGEE ENDORSEMENT SO HE EXCEPTED HAGEE COMMENTS OF ABOUT HURRICANE KATRINA AND HE EXCEPTED HAGEE VIEWS OF WHAT HE SAID..ITS A SIMPLE AS THAT.
THE COMMENTS THAT HAGEE MADE AND OTHER WHITE PASTORS HAD BEEN VERY BAD..AND UNPATRIOTIC..WHY SLANDER REV WRIGHT..
BUT EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT REV WRIGHT SAID..TO EXCEPT SOMEONE VIEWS WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER OF THEIR CHURCH IS WORSE..IT TELLS YOU THAT MCCAIN DID IT FOR POLITICAL REASON..
THAT’S UNPATRIOTIC
AT LEAST OBAMA TRIED TO KEEP HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH REV WRIGHT AND I FEEL THAT HE SHOULDN’T OF HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL OF WHAT THE MEDIA DID TO HIM..
IT IS SAD..I HAVE BLOGGED ON ABC AND I’VE SUPPORTED OBAMA, BUT I’M A TYPE OF PERSON THAT VIEWS THE ENTIRE SECTOR AND ITS CLEAR AT LEAST TO ME THAT THE MEDIA ENGAGED IN A MODERN DAY LYNCHING OF A AFRICAN AMERICAN PASTOR…
WHOSE VIEWS OR WORSE OR MAYBE NOR BETTER THAN OF PASTOR HAGEE OR OTHER WHITE AND BLACK PASTORS WHO HAVE SAID SIMILAR OR EVEN THE SAME VIEWS..THE MEDIA IS THE BLAME FOR DRIVING THE STORY OUT OF PROPORTION..
ABC, MSNBC, CNN ESPECIALLY FOXNEWS WHO JUST RAN THE STORY OVER AND OVER AGAIN..SHOULD JUDGE THERE OWN UNPATRIOTIC ACTIONS..THEY HAVE DONE A DISSERVICE TO THE AMERICAN/
THEY OWE REV WRIGHT AND APOLOGY..OR REV WRIGHT SHOULD SUE THEM FOR SLANDER..
ATTENDING A CHURCH IS MORE THAT THAN THE PASTOR..ITS YOUR INNER BELIEF..THERE WERE MANY TIMES WHEN I WENT TO CHURCH AND I DIDN’T AGREE ON WHAT THE PASTOR SAID, BUT WHEN I WAS IN GOD’S TEMPLE
I FOUND GOD ON MY OWN AND WHAT I GOT OUT OF THE CHURCH IS GOD LOVE..THE PASTOR IS JUST A MESSAGER NOT ALWAYS IS HIS MESSAGE SOMETHING ONE AGREES WITH, BUT IN THE END
THE CHURCH IS GOD’S TEMPLE..I WORSHIP IN MY HEART..
WHAT WAS DONE TO OBAMA AND REV WRIGHT WAS WRONG..THE MEDIA ACTED UNPATRIOTIC
AND OWES OBAMA AND REV WRIGHT AN APOLOGY
WHAT HAPPEN TO GOOD NEWS CHANNELS WHERE NEWS WAS REAL NEWS..I’M YOUNG, BUT I REMEMBER DAN RATHER AS A CHILD AND MY LOCAL NEWS MAN BILL SHARP IN CHARLESTON SC…
THAT’S NEWS WHAT THE MEDIA DID TO REV WRIGHT WAS LIKE WATCHING A JERRY SPRINGER SHOW…
IS THIS WHAT CABLE NEWS HAVE RESORTED TOO..
JERRY’S TYPE OF SHOWS..
SO UNPATRIOTIC..

ALRIGHT
DEB
THAT’S MY POINT

NO YOUR RIGHT MCCAIN WASN’T IN CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS
WHERE THERE WERE PROBABLY GOOD SERMONS AND BAD SERMONS
IT HAPPENS IN ALL CHURCHES..ALL REGLIGIONS..I DON’T THINK THERE IS A PERSON OUT THERE THAT CAN SAY OH I LOVED ALL OF MY PASTOR SERMONS OVER A COURSE OF TWENTY YEARS..
NO MAN OR WOMAN IS PERFECT..
BUT MCCAIN KNOWING HAGEE COMMENTS,,EXCEPTED AND EMBRACED THEM
THAT’S WORSE..

THE AGREEMENT NOW IS THAT MCCAIN WASN’T IN HAGEE CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS..BUT THAT AGREEMENT IS WORSE FOR JOHN MCCAIN
BECAUSE
NO YOUR RIGHT MCCAIN WASN’T IN CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS
WHERE THERE WERE PROBABLY GOOD SERMONS AND BAD SERMONS
IT HAPPENS IN ALL CHURCHES..ALL REGLIGIONS..I DON’T THINK THERE IS A PERSON OUT THERE THAT CAN SAY “OH I LOVED ALL OF MY PASTOR SERMONS” OVER A COURSE OF TWENTY YEARS..OR MORE
NO MAN OR WOMAN IS PERFECT..
BUT MCCAIN KNOWING HAGEE COMMENTS,,HAGEE CONTROVERSAL COMMENTS MCCAIN EXCEPTED AND EMBRACED HAGEE VIEWS WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER WITHOUT PROBALY EVEN GOING TO THE CHURCH..NOT GETTING TO KNOW THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY THAT CAN OCCUR IN SOME CHURCHES..
AGAIN NOONE IS PERFECT..
BUT MCCAIN EXCEPTED HAGEE FOR VOTES..TO GET ELECTED…TO BE EXCEPTED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..
WHAT’S MORE UNPATRIOTIC THAN THAT..TO USE GOD..RATHEER THAN OBAMA WHO TRIES TO UNDERSTAND AND NOT JUDGE SOMEONE…BUT TAKE REV WRIGHT GOODS WITH HIS BADS..
WHAT MCCAIN DID WAS WORSE..

No – not the same. McCain got a political endorsement and made it clear that it was a political endorsement.
I suspect, Obama attended that church for political aspirations too, but he could not say that because it goes against his narrative that he is not the same politician. Is there any other explanation? If he says he repudiates these remarks, where was he in over 20 years? Either he knew or he did not. If he knew then he is either a liar or a coward for not speaking up, if he did not, he is either naive or your typical politician. You choose!

MCCAIN SUPPORTERS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO PAINT A PRETTIER PICTURE OF HAGEE ENDOREMENT, BUT EXCEPTING A ENDORSEMENT IS EXCEPTING THEIR VIEWS..
THERE IS NO NEED TO TRIED TO SUGAR COAT HAGEE OVER REV WRIGHT..
AFTER RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG…WHAT MCCAIN SUPPORTERS ARE DOING NOW IS WHAT YOU WOULD CALL
DOUBLE STANDARDS..
THE AGRUEMENT NOW IS THAT MCCAIN WASN’T IN HAGEE CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS..BUT THAT AGRUMENT IS WORSE FOR JOHN MCCAIN
BECAUSE
NO YOUR RIGHT MCCAIN WASN’T IN CHURCH FOR TWENTY YEARS
WHERE THERE WERE PROBABLY GOOD SERMONS AND BAD SERMONS
IT HAPPENS IN ALL CHURCHES..ALL REGLIGIONS..I DON’T THINK THERE IS A PERSON OUT THERE THAT CAN SAY “OH I LOVED ALL OF MY PASTOR SERMONS” OVER A COURSE OF TWENTY YEARS..OR MORE
NO MAN OR WOMAN IS PERFECT..
BUT MCCAIN KNOWING HAGEE COMMENTS,,HAGEE CONTROVERSAL COMMENTS MCCAIN EXCEPTED AND EMBRACED HAGEE VIEWS WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER WITHOUT PROBALY EVEN GOING TO THE CHURCH..NOT GETTING TO KNOW THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY THAT CAN OCCUR IN SOME CHURCHES..
AGAIN NOONE IS PERFECT..
BUT MCCAIN EXCEPTED HAGEE FOR VOTES..TO GET ELECTED…TO BE EXCEPTED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..
WHAT’S MORE UNPATRIOTIC THAN THAT..TO USE GOD..RATHEER THAN OBAMA WHO TRIES TO UNDERSTAND AND NOT JUDGE SOMEONE…BUT TAKE REV WRIGHT GOODS WITH HIS BADS..
WHAT MCCAIN DID WAS WORSE..
MCCAIN EXCEPT HAGEE ENDORSEMENT SO HE EXCEPTED HAGEE

Let’s put this in perspective… no matter how much you yell Obamabots, you cannot compare the two! McCain made a political decision to get a religious leader’s endorsement. Obama made a personal choice to embrace a pastor whom he later says he disavows.
Prior to the endorsement, McCain repudiated Hagee’s incendiary statements. But only after Wright’s statements become problematic did Obama disavow those statements.
Bye, all. I have to go to church now and pray for all our sins!

It is a total red herring to try and compare religious views and racist rants. It is smoke and mirrors to try to compare a a 20 year relationship with an endorsement.
This is about Obama. He sat there for 20 years. He raised his children in that church…He says he never heard a thing. This is a total lie for political gain. Everyone in Chicago knew what Wright believed.
Wright was on Obama’s campaign until the day before Obamas “race speech” in March 2008.
As late as October 2007 there were hate Isreal rantings in the church newspaper. As late as December 2007 Wright was bashing Obama’s political rivals from the pulpit in profane and racist ways.The Rolling Stone article came out before Obama announced his candidacy and Wrights always well known views were stated again.
Obama denounced Imus for racist hate speech….He finally …after years of listening to it in church denounced Wright….I think it was for anti-Obama speech.
I would like a president that can stand up to hate and false teachings (if he really didn’t believe them) in his own church.
I wonder how many times Obama rose to his feet and applauded…like the entire congregation did when Rev Wright gave an anti-White rant.
I doubt Obama believes that the government invented AIDS to hurt Blacks…but he never corrected the Rev when he said it since 1995….I wonder what Obama’s children believe? He exposed his children to these beliefs,
Adults have an obligation to confront hate speech and false teachings in their own church….Instead the Obamas supported it by giving the church $27,000 as a charity contribution….make no mistake this is not going away…
The man who could not confront the “hate” with “change” on Sunday mornings does not deserve the votes to confront the problems of WA to “change” them.

Nobody is bothering with McCain’s preacher because the bottom line he is boring. It’s Obama who is the greatest interest in this election and offering the greatest challenge – Change. His very election to office will be the beginning of change and some people are so comfortable in the clay and don’t want things disturbed and therefore are making a massive effort to resist change. The whole pastor thing is crap!

McCain’s real pastor is Dan Yeary
He teaches about love and redemption.
McCain’s pastor is not Hagee. This is completely different.
Wright was Obama’s spiritual advisor for 20 years.
McCain has met Hagee a few times in his whole life. McCain barely knows Hagee.
McCain in February had very little staff. They didn’t vet Hagee. He didn’t know he was controversial. At the time they were looking for evangelical supporters with Huckabee out there. McCain was also endorsed by Gary Bauer.
McCain and Hagee are not close.
The media is trying to make Hagee out to be his pastor. He is not.

Yes, it is a double standard. But this is America. Another point on McCain: he’s on the verge of senility. As the spotlight on him becomes more intense over the summer, this will become more clear to the American people.

David – he might not be his pastor, but he is a man who McCain SOUGHT OUT the endorsement of, despite knowing his radical views. That shows bad judgement, and should be reported by the media.

Here is a picture of McCain’s real pastor. Pastor Dan Yeary of Pheonix.
You don’t talk about him because he is a moderate pastor who preaches forgiveness and redemption. He is the complete opposite of Wright.
That comparison would be disastrous.
McCain has a very close relationship with pastor Yeary for 15 years. McCain has no personal relationship with Hagee.

Also, listen to Wright’s sermons, full and in context. And keep in mind the racial history of this country as well (if you don’t know it, find a synopsis somewhere, like on Wikepedia or something), and where it was during Wright’s developmental years. Google the “Tuskegee Experiment” as well; read more on the details of that. Then perhaps his sermons, and his overall disposition, will make a little more sense to you. People don’t like looking back at this country’s sorry racist history because it’s like looking at a bloated corpse that’s been sitting under a desert sun for 30 days. Not a pleasant sight. But turning away doesn’t mean the corpse doesn’t exist.

DUHH!!!!!! In other news the earth is round and revolves around the sun.

This is the only time in american history,where the republicans and the democrats have a common enemy,a black man,who is fooling who?

To JON,
McCain in February had no idea about John Hagee’s positions.
Hagee wasn’t a household name. It wasn’t like Giuliani getting pat roberston’s endorsement.
McCain had very few staff back then.
Since then they put in a new vetting process for endorsements.
McCain was competing against huckabee in texas. All McCain was doing was lining up evangelical endorsements. He was endorsed by Gary bauer.
McCain is so completely different from Hagee. McCain is not a religous wacko.
McCain on the day of Hagee’s endorsement had no idea of Hagee’s extreme positions. He was asked the next day about them and it was the first he heard of them.
Hagee was not a household name.
The vetting process in McCain’s campaign has changed. Now all endorsers are vetted.
It used to be that just because you endorsed someone that doesn’t mean you agreed with them.
Rudy Giuliani was endorsed by Pat Robertson.
Of course they don’t share the same beliefs.
Just because someone endorses you, you aren’t endorsing them.
Show McCain’s real pastor.

John Mcain did not sit in Hagee’s church for 20 years. Hagee is not his spirtual adviser. How can they compare his judgment with Obama’s judgment. ObaMA IS a liar.

If Mccain respected his own pastor than why seek out HAGEE..
WHY FOR VOTES..talk about damning God..using him for Votes.
No what’s worse is seeking out an endorsement of a pastor who you know has said some awful things.
FOR VOTES
FOR EXCEPTENCE OF THE REPUBLICAN WHO DOESN’T WANT YOU, BUT RATHER HILLARY
SAD..
NO MCCAIN SEEKING OUT HAGEE IS FAR WORSE THAN OBAMA WHO YES MAY OF HAVE HAD A CONTROVERSAL REV BUT GETTING ENVOLVED WITH A PASTOR LIKE MCCAIN DID KNOWING HAGEE COMMENTS IS WORSE..
IF HE HAD HIS OWN PASTOR THEN WHY NOT STICK WITH THAT..why not trust your own pastors endorsment..or did he his pastor endorse him..
McCain..sort out a pastor who has made far more terrible and controversal comments than what we have heard from Rev Wright..
The media owes it to us American both views not one side..
The media owes Rev Wright an apology..

The question is supposed to be, why should some citizen be saying God dm America,a veteran just like McCain,the country is supposed to be shocked and worried,they are naturally supposed to wonder why,and seek the solution,somebody voluteered,yet it gets worse,I believe its just a matter of time when the status quo will change for good,the latinos will become the majority in this country,untill then,your guess is as good as mine, thank you and God bless.

How about a double standard for left wing media so called journalists.
Compare a spiritual advisor in Wright who Obama went to his church for 20 years to a guy McCain was endorsed by. McCain has been endorsed by a lot of people. He has no relationship with Hagee.
Now if McCain’s pastor for the last 15 years wasn’t dan yeary of phoenix and McCain had been an evangelical going to Hagee’s church in San antonio for the last 15 years then Jake Tapper would have a point.
But as it is McCain hasn’t been going to Hagee’s church for the last 15 years in Phoenix.
The comparison is absurd. There is no double standard.
The only double standard is how the the left wing distorts republican candidates.
This is not democracy. Because of the media we will have a one party system.
The main stream media is 85 percent democratic.
You will speaker pelosi with 300 house seats, leader reid with 60 senate seats and president obama.
The bias of the media is bad for democracy.
Why are 90 percent of the reporters at ABC flaming liberals.
Is that good for democracy?

THIS is a question for John Mccain supporters who kept harping on being in the church for 20 years please answer this question.
WHY WOULD JOHN MCCAIN SEEK OUT A PASTOR “HAGEE” WHO SAID SO MANY TERRIBLE THINGS WHEN HE HAD HIS OWN PASTOR.
WHY…
AND IN SEEKING OUT HAGEE, EXCEPTING HIS ENDORSEMENT JOHN MCCAIN EXCEPTED HAGEE UGLY VIEWS..
SO STOP THE DOUBLE STANDARDS..
JOHN MCCAIN USED POOR JUDGEMENT

Hillary Mccain
Now that’s a good ticket.

But jerry, bp made a strong point, that this is the only time in american history, the democrats and the republicans has got a common enemy,a blackman,not considering that his mother is white, how do you counter that?

All i know is bp stands for black panther and that stops the dialogue.

Jerry ..ok, forget about bp,its now between me and you, what do you think abot this allegation?

Hey Frank Rich,
Did McCain’s pastor Dan Yeary go with Louis Farakkhan on a trip to Libya to meet Gadaffi when we had hostile relations with them like what Wright did.
The media has reached a new low in their bias for the left with this absurd comparison.

John McCain also called Rod Parsley his ‘spiritual advisor’. If you know anything about Rod Parsley, that’s pretty scary!

It appears ignorance has run amuck.
Most people and even MSM don’t have a clue!
Why has religious scholars remained silent and allowed misinformation to persist?
How can you criticize if you don’t understand?
Some education on the black church is in order.
Historically, the church in the African American community has been the initiator for activities that benefit the African American community. Many scholars, including Lincoln (The Black Experience in Religion, 1974), Mays (The Negro’s Church, 1933), Washington (Black Religion: The Negro and Christianity in the United States, 1964), and DuBois (The Souls of Black Folk, 1907) have affirmed this idea. In the church, educational opportunities were presented and encouraged; in the African American Church educational institutions for African Americans were born. The church was the cradle where voter registration was nurtured and matured. In the church, economic opportunities were conceived for African Americans.
The church was the site of the civil rights movement, based on a theology of liberation. Liberation Theology addresses the concern of freedom of oppression, as do African American Theology and Black Theology.
The Black Church, as an institution, came into being following separation from white churches, because the majority church did not confer full status to black people. In the formation of the Black Church, full status to all was conferred. This is significant, especially at a time when other oppressions are keeping people from experiencing the fullness of belonging to the body of Christ. It is incumbent upon the Black Church to remember its own history and, from it, to assure that no group be made to suffer such inhumanities. The function of Liberation Theology is to call people to this remembrance.
Liberation Theology in the African American community was born as a result of the inhumanities black people suffered and are still suffering at the hands of the majority population. It will continue as long as there is real or perceived injustice.
From the beginning, Black Theology was understood as Christian theology which reflected upon the struggle for justice and liberation. In that light, Liberation Theology was and is not limited to any ethnic group.
There are 4 interpretive schemes or models of the black church.
1. Assimilation Model
2. Isolation Model
3. Compensatory Model
4. “Ethnic-community-Prophetic Model
Obama’s church followed the “ethnic community-prophetic model. This model accentuates the potential of the black church or its ministers as “prophets to a corrupt white christian nation” mainly in terms of racism and historical racial injustice.
This church has priestly and prophetic functions.
Priestly functions involve only those activities concerned with worship and maintaining the spiritual life of its members.
Prophetic functions refer to involvement in political concerns and activities in greater society. Classically, this activity has meant pronouncing a radical word of God’s judgement on real or perceived social injustice.
Obama started as a community organizer in one of the poorest areas of Chicago. Iam sure he saw the results of a lot of social injustice and suffering from bad govt. policies. It is not surprising that he would join or maintain membership at his church.
Obama seeks to bring us beyond all the old divisions and injustices of the past and have us all work for the good of a one and better america. He has seen the best and worst of both sides.
His distractors believe that hate and group division will “carry the day”. They might be right!
PS
A lot of the information above was extracted from the book, The Black Church in the African American Experience.
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Of course there is bias. How many people have seen Rev. Hagee’s greatest hits? There is probably not one person in America who has not be exposed to the medias Rev. Wright lovefest. Nor has anyone heard a peeop about Clinton’s ties to Coe and The Family, or her ex-pastor who was sentenced to jail this year for molesting a 7 year old girl. Why is no one asking the questions to the other two candidates? BTW, Sen. McCain ASKED for Rev. Hagee’s support. What does that tell you about his judgement?

The media has gone overboard with this coverage and I’m sick of it. Enough already!
The Rev. Wright/Pastor Hagee issues should not be at the forefront. When did Billy Graham become an issue in the past when he spoke in defamatory terms about Jews? I still love Billy Graham in spite of those remarks, but what ministers say should have nothing to do with the political and economic issues at hand. The media is obsessed with this pastor/minister coverage because they’re looking for ratings boosters.
Our country is in trouble on economic, domestic and foreign policy issues. America, let’s get our next President elected and move forward. Enough with the ex-pastor coverage. Enough!

Hey Steve:
Did McCain’s pastor Dan Yeary go with Louis Farakkhan on a trip to Libya to meet Gadaffi when we had hostile relations with them like what Wright did.
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Did Obama go on these trips, did he even know about them, Did he agree it was a good thing? Or is this just another attempt to implicate Obama through guilt by association?

Here is my two sense about Obama and Revered Wright:
1. There was not much change in what Wright said at the National Press Club from the so called “sound bytes” played over and over on You Tube. Yet, Obama didn’t denounce Wright, but choose to defend Wright and make it a racial issue. It wasn’t a racial issue it was a patriotic issue.
2. Obama chose to stay in Wright’s church for over 20years. Does anybody really believe on the days Obama didn’t attend service, Reverend Wright did not speak this way? Obviously Wright breaths, speaks and eats the litany he spews out. It is ridiculous for the media to compare Obama’s 2o years of attendance in Wright church to what, a month of an endorsement for McCain?

Frank Rich’s moral guru wears black
leather and carries a riding crop.

Rich, Moyers, and Stewart need to come up with a better defense as they’re making it worse by implying that there’s a double standard. Most folks aren’t concerned with John Hagee or Pat Robertson and their relationship with McCain because neither of them have a 20 year relationship with McCain and McCain hasn’t called them spiritual mentors, family, and alluded to them as father figures.
Obama is being asked to explain a relationship that he put into the public’s view when he wrote about Wright in his books. When Obama cites Rev. Wright as a mentor and formative influence on him, voters have a right to question Obama about that influence.
When defenders invoke a racial double standard as a mode of defense, they dismiss voter’s concerns and tacitly call them racists for having the nerve to want these questions answered. Since some of what Wright has said is inflammatory and along racial lines, these defenders unwittingly stoke the fires by insulting the intelligence of voters who have legitimate questions about what Wright teaches and what Obama does and does not agree with. If Obama doesn’t answer the questions and his defenders smack voters for simply wanting to know, Obama loses these voters.
Obama needs to answer the deeper questions regarding Wright and his relationship with him. Defenders who call it a double-standard or poo-poo the voters are keeping Obama from allaying people’s doubts and moving on. The overprotectiveness is what’s killing him.
Putting it all out there, and no Obama still hasn’t done that, is the only way to put it to rest.

No Point – See McCain did not go to Hagees parish for 20 years, nor did ne write a book repeating the nasty stuff, nor did McCain throw his grandma under the bus for him! (figuratively)
This is just the libs way of trying to take the spotlight off Obama’s anti-Americanism racism!!
If Wright was just some one that says he supported Obama, and no major connections then Wright would not even fit in to anything.
A Candidate can not be responsible for who supports them , but they can be held responsible for who they hang with, take on as mentors
More Libs twisting of the truth!!

Frank Rich’s best point is here: “The Clintons and Mr. Obama are always held accountable for their racial stands, as they should be, but the elephant in the room of our politics is rarely acknowledged: In the 21st century, the so-called party of Lincoln does not have a single African-American among its collective 247 senators and representatives in Washington.”
As we talk about racial progress and the press looks for all the good that has been done by the left, this question about the right is a good one. Who did J.C. Watts have to caucus with when it came to any racial tinged policies by the right? He turned to himself 4 to 8 years ago and asked him if he had the numbers to defeat some of those policies. Self said NO.
Barack can’t say typical or bitter without getting a full scale media assault. Howard Fineman said Barack needed to stick to playing basketball. But you have McCain trying to figure out where to even begin addressing race, maybe it is in Memphis at the Lorraine Motel, maybe he should go to Appalachia, or perhaps New Orleans divorced from most of its residents is the place to start.
Progress is slow.