By MichaelJames

May 11, 2008 10:58am

A Saturday Night Live Skit Clinton Won’t Be Referencing Anytime Soon

During a recent Ohio debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., cited an SNL skit mocking media adulation of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., to make the argument that there had been a media double-standard.

Watch HERE.

The problem with citing a comedy show as an authority is that it can come back to haunt you.

Watch Amy Poehler’s "Hillary Clinton" talk to the superdelegates HERE.

- jpt

UPDATE: Forgetting politics for a moment, THIS SKIT is just brilliant.

User Comments

HILLARIOUS!
The truth is in the joke. For example, her 2nd point that her supporters are racist…LOL! Any true democrat who will vote for McSame in November must be racist, as there is such a stark contrast between their policies it could be labeled as nothing else.

Posted by: Roxanne | May 11, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

IT’S OVER HILLARY FANS!
Time to jump on board the Obama Express.
All Aboard!

Posted by: A | May 11, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

This goes to show how vetted she is. I’ve read on this blog of NAFTA inconsistencies based on something she said in the early nineties. Now episodes from SNL going as far back as eight years are being used as fodder. Unfortunately, her opponent, if he becomes the nominee, will be raked over the coals to the extent she was. This is actually good support for her assertion of being vetted. She should thank you.

Posted by: katrina | May 11, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Political satire at its best!

Posted by: Sara | May 11, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Here’s what’s scary…this skit is pretty close to Hillary Clinton’s actual message. But she has shown such ugly qualities in herself these last four months that her “negatives” have probably doubled. After eight years of Bush and Cheney, voters just don’t want another mean, nasty, ill-tempered person in the White House.

Posted by: Dema | May 11, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Roxanne For those who vote just based on party affiliation there is no doubt those Clinton supporters will cast their vote for Obama. For those who vote for the candidate over party,
they will be looking closely at Obama and McCain and any other options that may present themselves. I’ve voted predominantly Democrat for over 30 years
and identify myself as Democrat. I have also voted on occasion for a Republican and have voted on numerous occasions for candidates not affiliated with either the Democratic or Republican party. And surprise, surprise- I have even voted for African American candidates when presented the option (in our State it’s been generally mayoral races) and I resent your comment implying that if one does not vote for this specific African American candidate that they are racist
or if one isn’t a voter who only votes their party affiliation that in this case they are racist too. I have heard many people say they have no problem with voting for a woman, and in fact have done so in other races, but Clinton is just not the woman they would support. I think the same applies with Obama. Many have no problem supporting an African-American candidate just not this African American candidate. Clearly there are some voters out there who would not vote for either an African American or a woman under any circumstances and I have read blogs from some Obama supporters in which it is has very clear that gender was an issue for them in this race. For me to say that anyone who didn’t vote Clinton is sexist or that anyone who would vote McCain if Clinton were the nominee is sexist is ridiculous and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re smarter than that and that perhaps your youth or own biases are showing in this case.

Posted by: alpaig | May 11, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

rafraf puhhleeze, if they really wanted to avoid “it”, they wouldn’t have said half of the crap they did….starting with bill clinton.
The clintons count on people like you suffering from selective amnesia. As you can see, simply….it works!
lol
This election has become nothing but a joke. Understandably so with the clintons anywhere close by.
Talk about smears….Senator Obama has endured the nastiest smears and continues to do so. Even his wife is being smeared. And next, the good folks of the United States will start in on their two girls….what a country, huh?!

Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 11, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

the DNC announced Sunday that they has chosen the candidate they would run against in this years presidentil race. After much consideration we have decided to run, this year, against George W bush. with our candidate and the amount of money we have we think that by running against Bush we will insure that only about 3pr cent of the electorate will even know who <ccain is come November. we plan to put bushs name on every ballot we can get ahold of, from scholl board elections, to town council, village councils, all 7th and 8th grade elections for clas president, city state and national. the DNC has allocated funds to purchase 35,000,00 two inch by two inch icons to be pinned to suit lapels. each will contain a photo of Bush on the deck of that aircraft carrier, in his tailored flight suit. press a button on the icon and it says hostilities have ended. coalition forces have succeeded.
we believe that will be enough.

Posted by: donald bronski | May 11, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

sorry about the omitted part of my comment. i swore it was on the original should read only about 3 per cent of the electorate will even kknow who Mccain is/

Posted by: donald bronski | May 11, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

I love this skit!
BTW, I’m a 42 year old white female with a BS in Biology and have voted Repbulican in the past. I really respected McCain in the past, but, in his attempts to secure the conservative right, he has flip-flopped on so many issues that he truly represents a Bush third term. To my point, anyone who possesses democratic values and votes for a continuation of the Bush regime, must obviously be racist. If Obama were not the nominee, I would never consider voting for McCain and would gladly pull the lever for Hillary. People need to be honest with themselves and realize the only way to change the game in Washington is to change the players. 30,000 lobbyists for 435 members of congress and 100 senators must be eradicated and big business should take a back seat to the citizens of this country. Who will make that happen or at least make an honest attempt? Obama!

Posted by: Roxanne | May 11, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

The Irony…

Posted by: Vanessa | May 11, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

HILLARY FANS — MOVE TO THE LEFT PLEASE.
You will, you know. After Obama (aka Soetoro) wins the nomination, the ultra-libs will convince you that the end of the world will occur if you don’t join them. Most of you will surrender your moderation and principles faster than caster oil can cure constipation.
You can take it to the bank

Posted by: A | May 11, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Nothing left to be said about the Clintons after that SNL “Message from Hilary” clip.
Any high school grad can draw the very same conclusions about
Such a tragedy for the Clintons: Huge highs and mighty lows.
And there is not even an effort for the woman, at least, to try and salvage some dignity for her daughter’s sake.
For what the Clintons did in taking advantage of the very young Monica Lewinski could happen to their own daughter.

Posted by: Patriot | May 11, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

To Roxanne
Thats right, if Hillary supporters vote for anyone but Obama than they are RACIST. Typical RACIST Obama supporter response. Some of You Obama supporters are SO RACIST. Obama is a HUGE ? mark and most of Hillary supporters will NOT take the risk on such a man who talks, talks and talks about change he can not and will not produce. GIVE IT up you will NEVER convince MOST Hillary supporters to get aboard the Obama Kool-Aid Train. True Americas vote for the Person and NOT the Party.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist Obama — NEVER!

Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

I wondered when SNL would cave. They have always been unafraid to tackle any issue.
I read SNL was criticized for portraying Obama as unattractive, using a white man with a darkened face.
While Hillary was played by an attractive actor.
Once again the race card was played. But the actor is Bi-racial just like Obama.
And now SNL only criticizes Hillary.
The race excuse used by Obama and supporters is very sad. It won’t protect Obama forever.
Hillary or McCain…never Obama

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 11, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Nobody can change who I voted and will vote, it is not about a black or a woman, it is about what I believe and what my opinion is, even it only matters to me.
I won`t vote for Obama.

Posted by: Amy | May 11, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

beth,
if you think about it,
obama threw his white half the AMERICAN part of his AFRICAN-american self under the bus a long time ago.
maybe obama could have cont to sell us the story of being a uniter, until we found out he had been sitting in a church for 20 years listening to just the opposite. and if he didn’t hear any of the stuff we have heard. why haven’t we heard some of the love and brotherness sermons he heard for 20 years?
we should have heard this in feb. and obama would have been history. but the msm didn’t do its job. and her we about to have someone become president and have ojt.
what fools we american are.

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Your right. It came back to hit her hard. I think it was pretty unfair, but SNL has no responsibility to be fair.

Posted by: Joan | May 11, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

To Vanessa
Your could be right and if you want to know for sure just ask Sinclair. But that will not help him. Hillary Supporters if given the choice of Obama or McCain most will vote McCain because there is NO way we will rick your vote on a person that can only TALK.True Americans vote for the Person and not the Party. Only a fool would vote party regardless of who running.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

The majority of Americans who are going to vote for John McCain don’t watch Saturday Night Live. Those that do are a minority and won’t make enough difference to make a difference.
Enjoy the ride. We are about to find out if the minority is powerful enough or the majority is smart enough. Should be fun.

Posted by: len | May 11, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Happy Mother’s Day Mrs. John McCain#1 wherever you are! At least Obama didn’t dump his wife when she was ill.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | May 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Roxanne Are we talking about the same Obama who has taken money from Citigroup, UBS, JP Morgan Chase, Exelon, Exxon Mobil, British Petroleum and so on? That same Obama? He doesn’t take money from lobbyists, which isn’t entirely accurate because he has in the past and in the present has taken some money, but small in comparison to perhaps the other candidates, from lobbyists (even in Clinton’s case lobbyist money only makes up 1% of her campaign funds) but he does what every other candidate does to get around taking lobbyist money and that is he takes it from “advisors” or “consultants” to lobbyists or “bundled” money. For those who believe Obama can change the system of being beholden to special interests then I first would suggest that they educate themselves on how that system actually operates, a good example would be knowing what “bundling” is. Obama is slowly opting to back out of his committment to take public financing because his arguement would be that he has received so much money from small donors that in his case he’s more beholden to the people. His small donor contributions make up about 46% of his campaign funds (possibly less since small donors who contribute less than $200 aren’t required to be identified or reported to the FEC) and who kept him afloat until all those small donors jumped on board? He clearly brought in more small donor money at the beginning of 2008 then he did the beginning of 2007. I think if one supports Obama, for whatever reason, then great and I totally respect that decision. But it’s difficult to listen to people buy into this notion that Obama is anything but a rank and file Democrat who has little in his record/experience that would indicate that he can bring on the change he promises to some many.

Posted by: alpaig | May 11, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

You know… Obama bloggers have pretty much left this battle and are ensuring our democratic presidency by using their blogging efforts against the real opponent, GOP candidate…. I’m pretty much done battling here… Clinton started with my respect and admiration and watching her dreadful actions… I left her behind… as has so many americans that even the polls are no longer interested in her chances…. so guys: get on or off, but this train has moved to the general election.

Posted by: origood | May 11, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

steve moore it seems that obama has beat the larry sinclair ordeal.
If it is true the msm do not want to know about it.
I am beginning to think nothing can touch this guy, and if the country continues down the drain so what
he still will have been our first black president, and during these times that is what we all wanted and needed this time around, right?

Posted by: gerrijohnson | May 11, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

All i have to say is, to the Clinton supporters – the truth hurts don’t it! One thing about comedies are, they aren’t bound by politics and political correctness and will say it bluntly like it is. The say what millions of people are thinking. This skit is putting it bluntly without the sugarcoat. Way to go SNL!

Posted by: rant3000 | May 11, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Steve Moore,
Someone esle posted under my name. The Sinclair story is false. He failed a lie detectors test. Bill O’reily looked into the story and found the story was created by a Ron Paul supporter. The “Sinclair” guy also lives in mental institute. There’s no record of Obama nor him in the hotel he reported and there’s no limo driver.
Vote McCain if you wish. I have no problem. But if he happens to win. I want you to look in mirror everyday and blame yourself for another 5,000 American soldiers lives….40,000+ gain of injured soldiers, and innocent Iraqi citizens death.
I want you to look yourself in the mirror everyday and wonder why oil is 150/barrel or you’re losing your home.
Look yourself in the mirror when China becomes the richest nation b/c of our addiction to oil and war.
Vote McCain. Have a great time. Just blame yourself when it’s starts hurting your pocket.
Good Luck =)

Posted by: Vanessa | May 11, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

you obama supporters will be able to look into the mirror and have a pretty strong message for yourselves.
sen. clinton should be president.
she is smarter than mccain and obama

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

“Commander Guy” that is so funny and so true.
Reminds me of my bi-sexual friends. They are gay around gay crowd, and straight around straight crowd…
Obama used his church and black community for political purposes..now that he has 90% of their voted locked in, he can move on to kiss up to whites.
Who will turn on Obama first if elected?
Pres.Obama will always have to please whites to stay in office.
Then he will be accused of being “not black enough.” Hope he enjoys the fishbowl.
Hillary/McCain…never Obama

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

To Len
If McCain goes up against Obama than McCain will win by a Landslide. Not becauses the vasy majority want McCain but they DO NOT WANT Obama who is totally unqualified to be President. Most Hillary supporters if given the only choice of McCain or Obama will have no choice but to vote for McCain because Obama is to big a rick to take when electing a Prsident. Good and Bad we know what we are getting with Hillary or McCain but no one knows Obama, he is a bIG ? Mark. Only a total fool votes for a party regardless who is running.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Steve Moore: You are correct. As a strong Hillary supporter myself, I could never vote for Obama. If the Republican nominee were someone totally unpalatable, then I would sit this one out. However, if it is a choice between the centrist McCain, and the unexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, race-card playing, racist Obama, then the choice is clear.

Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

justsaying | May 11, 2008 12:41:32 PM
If Hilary is that ‘smarter’, how come she doesn’t know when to quit!
Hilary did not know when to quit when she was repeatedly and PUBLICLY humiliated by her cheating husband and the ‘other WOMEN’.
Hilary did not know when to quit support for the Iraq war!
And now, Hilary does not know when to quit a campaign she should lost MONTHS AGO!
Bush does not know when to quit Iraq; and so we continue to lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of American lives, limbs, mental healthy, and MONEY!
Why should Americans want a President who is not ‘smart’ enough to KNOW WHEN TO QUIT A LOSING CAUSE?

Posted by: Patriot | May 11, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

To Vanessa
The Sinclair situation is now going to court. A law suit has been filed and the Media like everything else about Obama is not being reported. The sinclair story is far from over and will have to come out soon! Google Sinclair law suit for yourself. Also sorry that someone posted in your name, that is just not right.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Dream on..Obama supporters! Hillary supporters have already taken the bullet train to McCain town, bye bye!

Posted by: Rohit | May 11, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

They need to do a skit about Cokie Roberts. What a bitter woman she is.

Posted by: Thinking | May 11, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

pat,
after all of what you just wrote,
i believe everyone who supports obama are mad because deep down they know he is not as smart as she is. and you are posting your bets on him but crossing your fingers-because you don’t know him anymore than we do.
i grant she had some bad people running her campaign. and he did have the msm and all of the dem party bigwigs helping and pulling for him. but she is smarter than he is on the issues and would make a better president.
i just hope he decides not to have her campaign for him. and i hope she declines his offer of money.
and just like kerry said “maybe because he is a black man with his name we will be able to make better deals in the middle east-because he understands those people”
john kerry said it so it must be so.

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Typo corrected. Sorry
Dear justsaying, maybe that is why she’s losing the DNC nomination nationally. Sometimes being “TOO SMART” is worse than being intelligent??
It is possible to believe you are smarter than the avearge Joe and that can backfire because you can out smart yourself?
It’s time to repair the campaign injuries between both campaigns. I am very respectful of the Clinton’s and voted for Bill 2 times and atually went into the voting booth here in San Francisco, California to vote for Hillary and no joke a light went off in my head and all I could think of was the possibility of CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN and YES WE CAN.
More importantly a couple of important flashbacks occured and I gave it a lot of thought before I decided to vote for Senator Obama.
I know the Clinton name and politics and respect them tremendously, but the “NEW KID ON THE BLOCK” has a new energy and brings hope to a lot of Ordinary Americans and I believe he will try to strenghten our nation as a whole and I think he will work for the good of ORDINARY PEOPLE and he has 2 daughters and a wife to work for so he has the no reason to do counter productive things that will affect his family or yours or mine.
I want America to represent quality of life issues for all Americans and I think Senator Obama is up for the challenge. One thing for sure he could not do any worse than what we have been forced to deal with for the past 8 years.
His race is not an issue to me nor is his patrotism. Wearing a flag pin and treating people of color as sub standard humans does not make you a good patriot. Onward and Upward. He will “walk softly and carry a very big stick” to defend ordinary people like you and me.
VOTE OBAMA 2008

Posted by: Lou | May 11, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

To Lou
The “NEW KID ON THE BLOCK” has nothing but TALK. Bush promised CHANGE and promised People Working Together and so many fell for it. Bush promised a new type of Government.Now how did that work out. Obama promises CHANGE that he can not and will not Produce. It is all TALK. He Is TOTALLY UNQUALIFIED to be President. If Americans are giving the choice of McCain or Obama than the vast majority will vote McCain. Obama is one HUGH ? Mark. Only a total fool votes for the party regardless who the nominee is.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Jake,
While I enjoyed the skit last night, I may have a different take on it than you. I don’t see it as damaging to Hillary at all. It is more akin to a parody of how the Obama campaign has painted Hillary, as a demon…. devoid of any moral fiber and backed by racists. To be sure, I am no racist and neither are all those voters in my state (Mass.) who voted for Hillary.
I bet watching the skit was far more frightening for the Obama people than the Clinton supporters. It aims at the worst fears of Obama and the DNC who have chosen him.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

I have one word for all of you Obama people, and remember it come November. PENNSYLVANIA!!. If Obama cannot carry Pennsylvania, turn out the lights, he will never, ever make up the 21 delegates that the Dems so sorely need from this state. Aside from Philadelphia, Obama is not like, and even despised in the vast majority of the state. Forget Ohio and Florida, they will never vote Obama. He will likely win Iowa, Nevada and maybe Colorado, and he will still not have enough electoral votes without Pennsylvania. And I am already assuming he will carry New Hampshire. One thing I will give Hillary credit for, she is right about electability. The Obama mystyque is already wearing off and by November he will no longer be a novelty. The Republicans picked the perfect candidate to run against the liberal Obama, a moderate Republican who has sided with Dems on many issues over the years. Mark my words, come November is Pennsylvania is lost, so is the election.

Posted by: JRS | May 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

rant3000 George Sr. came in with foreign policy experience (more so than probably any other recent President) and George Jr. had none- how George Sr handled Iraq vs George Jr. speaks for itself in regards to the difference between experience and none. George W came in having been a Governor with no foreign policy experience to speak of. As is the case with Obama, he was not an apologist about such because he intended to surround himself with those with the expertise and where he saw his strengths were in the area of judgement, decision making and leadership. Look how well that worked this past 8 yrs. Perhaps if he’d had more experience then Cheney and Rumsfeld wouldn’t have wielded the power they did in this administration and the war in Iraq. George Sr came in having been the Director of the CIA, a U.S. Representative to the U.N., a U.S. envoy to China and 8 yrs of being Vice President. When one of Sr’s. team were asked in later years about the criticism lodged at them for not having taken Iraq while they had the opportunity (in the same way his son later did) their response was “We weren’t crazy”. Even Obama has cited George Sr as being one of the best in regards to foreign policy and in fact Obama stated he wants to take this Country back to the foreign policy traditions of George Sr and Reagan. If I want George Sr and Reagan then why would I not vote McCain based on foreign policy issues?

Posted by: alpaig | May 11, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

There are a lot of closet racists on this message board. Have some guts and tell the truth. People are tired of saying one thing and doing another. That will be the deciding factor this time around. If the democrats need a racist white state like Pennsylvania to win the election they probably won’t win anyway. These states are white male only states so I believe Hilary would loose them anyway. White males can’t stand Hilary and the republicans despise her with a passion. Having her as the nominee would continue the polarization in Washington for years to come.

Posted by: Andrew Rivera | May 11, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Are the 90% of blacks voting for Obama racist?

Posted by: ? | May 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

To rant3000
No! NO! No! Shame on you for voting for Obama.
We Hillary supporters are very good democrats but we are AMERICANS FIRST and must do what is best for America. Obama is a big ? mark and it would be to big a risk to make him President. He is not Qualified. If we are given the choice between McCain And Obama then most of us will vote McCain and NEVER Obama. Only a complete fool votes party regardless who the nominee is.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

It couldn’t be the fact that he only had 1 year in the U.S. senate before he announced he was running.

Posted by: Tina D | May 11, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Obama supporters and even MSM have been writing off WV as irrelevant but look at their voting record in presidential elections. As it turns out it is a very important indicator of Democratic success in the GE.
Why could Jimmy Carter carry West Virginia TWICE, even in the 1980 Reagan landslide, Michael Dukakis could even carry West Virginia, Bill Clinton carried it twice by huge margins both times, yet Al Gore and John Kerry lost there? . . . [W]hat can Dems do to win it again?
Easy answer: nominate Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 11, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

The skit showed how Obama will not win because people in key states will not vote for him.

Posted by: fact | May 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

? posted:
“Are the 90% of blacks voting for Obama racist?”
No, racists can only be white. LOL

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

To Andrew Rivera
Typical Obama supporter, just like Obama. USE THE RACE CARD when you do not like what others say. Obama will loss because HE IS NOT QUALIFIED!. Bush promised us change and so many fell for it and now obama promises CHANGE that he can not and will not produce. He is an empty suit that has NOTHING to offer but TALK.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

HRC’s argument about white, hardworking whites, hardworking uneducated whites is laughable for several reasons.
1. she is desperate
2. she is saying that those whites who are not supporting her are not hardworking Americans?
3. rules are the rules are the rules. if you are loosing, get over it.
4. she says she is a fighter – do you want to send your children to support such a fighter who will take them to their grave in a war situation?

Posted by: Vik | May 11, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Loved the SNL sketch. So true!!!

Posted by: Matt | May 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Loved the SNL skit. So true!!

Posted by: matt | May 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

The SNL skit makes her look good :-)

Posted by: Vik | May 11, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Those of us who support Senator Clinton now and state that we will vote for McCain in November are not racists but those who say we are are bigots. We have research Senator Obama’s background and have listened to his campaign rhetric and will not vote for him for Presidient because we do not think he is qualified or honest. He is an ugly man inside. He has belittled the hard-working middle class. End of story.

Posted by: Mary | May 11, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

geevill,
That was my take on the SNL skit also. It is a satire of Obama camp and MSM depiction of Hillary Clinton. I also think, as I posted previously, will prove frightening to Obama supporters, not Hillary supporters at all.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 11, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

While the skit is satire, it does
make the valid point that the
media has been easy on Obama.
Take the Wright affair,when the
media does ask Obama why he did
not switch churches, the media
accepts the lame excuse that the
church and Wright did good work.
The media could have pointed out
that many of Chicago’s churches
do the same. They also could
have pointed out that Opah grew
uncomfortable with Wright’s
sermons so she changed churches.
The media failed to do this
and thus failed its duty.

Posted by: Beto | May 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

This election have changed American people to vote.
They don’t mind their next president is:
Related to terrorist,engaged with the controversial pastor,engaged with Rezko case.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

What has come increasingly clear is the disaster we have avoided by nominating Obama.Apparently Hillary and McCain would have turned this country in dark red and dark blue.Both the Clintonistas and the Swiftboaters racing to the bottom for dirt,something Obama would never do.

Posted by: Mary | May 11, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Everybody starts to give comment about who the best VP for Obama.
Some said he has to choose the older one and has more experience.
Some said he has to choose the one can win Ohio,CA,PA,NV,FL,MI and the other states he needs to beat McCain.
So, what good about him to become the nominee?
Why not choose Hillary?

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

That skit is so far off from the real Hillary campaign, it is like black and white. Go look up the meaning of the word brilliant. This was not brilliant. This was stupidy. The whole Obama campaign is a joke. He made the same big promises of hope and change in 1996 to his senate district. Nothing changed except more proverty, gangs, drugs, crime, etc. NOTHING CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. I do not want his version of change for America. Socialism and Marxism agendas is not American.

Posted by: Mariah | May 11, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

blue Irish
The new left is just that. Hillary is too moderate for them. It’s just that simple!

Posted by: Just Curious | May 11, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

blue irish,
i am a hillary supporter, and i hope he will not ask her, because i don’t want her to help him.

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Justsaying,
Yes, I don’t want her to become his VP.
It’s only helping him.
It’s a waste , she is much brilliant and hard working than him.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

SteveMoore,
I completely agree with you.
We’ve been discusting about thi issue.
Why they can say anything about white people but not us?
I like it when Sam Donaldson talk with George this morning.
He said: it’s the fact. Obama has to face it he can not embrace white working class .
Sam said somebody might say he is a racist after saying it.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

All Hillary fans. McCain has now stated NO exceptions on anti-abortion repub platform even in case of rape, incest, or life of the mother.
Time to come home to the party and candidate = OBAMA 08, who will protect you, your daughters, your sisters, and friends from back alley butcher shops and coat hangers.

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

To blue Irish
I agree with you. She is way to good to be VP for a Media created fake that is all talk. If she is not the nominee than as a true American I will change parties and vote for McCain. Only a complete fool votes for the party regardless who the nominee is.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

To Jim
We have much more to worry about and Bush type scare tactics will not work this time. If hillary is not the nominee than MOST Hillary supporters will vote for McCain.
Hillary Or McCain 2008

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Steve Moore,
Lots of people think so but if she runs independent ,I’d vote for her.
I’m really disappointed the way DNC treated Hillary.
Most of Dems are very upset about this election.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

jim, if you really care, you will find out how to write in sen. clinton name on the ballot in nov.
the dem party should have the best sen. clinton.
and all of this stuff about coming back to the party-
i guess with obama and his crew we will all need to start calling each other comrade.

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Jim,
I’m sorry, I just can not trust Obama for me and my next generation.
He is not the commander in chief but other people control this country if he becomes the president .

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Regardless of the message of the SNL skit – we as a nation have yet to really deal with the issue of race in this country. Oh on the surface we act like we do – but how many whites really care to see interracial couples or their offspring. The fact of the matter is that we are what we were taught as children. Our parent’s beliefs and their parent’s belief are what make us up – it is called socialization – you can read about in college (but it should be taught in high school!) Nationalism is another word that means how you feel about your country – and what you are taught as a child helps to form that opinion. But white American has yet to deal with race – and their dislike of the black community. Is Hillary wrong for her views – not anymore than any other person who was brought up like that? This election process has shown America’s underbelly to be what it truly is – frighteningly unchanged deep inside – but on the surface we are somewhat tolerant. White middle class Americans (some without a college education) have the beliefs of their parents and grandparents. I grew up hearing my father use the “n” word to talk about black people – I also grew up watching him drink too much. I learned some things from that – one I don’t drink, and two I respect people for whom they are. Both my father and mother’s parents lived in a different time – a time when people were treated without respect for being human and hence they did early on believe what they had been taught by their parents. But they have changed and seen the error of their ways… I can no more disown them for that than I can the hypocrites that attend church ever week. Some of America hides behind their religion to distance themselves from the truth of how it still is – others use a different means. Am I a racist because I do not socialize with my black so-workers outside of work? No – but maybe I am a coward for not standing up to what is right when my white co-workers say unpleasant things behind my back if I do. Our country was founded on the unpleasant truth of murder, hatred, and lies – if you believe otherwise then you probably don’t believe in the holocaust as well. I won’t be the person to change your mind – some minds can’t be changed for whatever the reason. But until we take on this challenge and work together to change this attitude then we are no better off now than before the civil rights campaign. Only on the surface are we smiley and acting like there isn’t a problem – but deep down inside their still is. Both of these politicians want to be the first – perhaps even both really want change. But which one is the best for the job – you can’t rule out one without ruling out the other as well for they both have flaws – because they both are humans. One went to church with a pastor that was angry – and had every right to be. The pastor re-enlisted in the Navy to save lives after serving in the Marine Corps, while at the same time he was being treated as less human than his white counterparts. Does he have the right to be angry – certainly – especially when the world he see’s around him hasn’t really changed that much. Soldiers in combat find out the truth – blacks saving whites and whites saving blacks – and they come home changed from that. Is that what it will take for the rest of our country to see that as well? But you say he shouldn’t have stayed in that church for twenty years. And I pose the question – how many of your churches have done and said things that went against the grain? How many spoke out about AIDS and how it is god’s will to punish the homosexuals? Where in the bible does it say to hate some because of the way they are – I believe it states forgiving them. So did you get up and leave your churches?
Anyway – I believe in the one I think who can do the job better – and that’s who I will vote for. Our country has to change – not just racially but in our politics as well. Because the only winners with the way we are going are the rich – who keep getting richer – while the rest of us flounder in the quagmire than we have been left in for the last two hundred plus years.

Posted by: jozy | May 11, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

comrades,
forget the party
think of america
sen. clinton as president.
let lord obama be president of his disciples

Posted by: justsaying | May 11, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

and the repubs trying to stir up a tempest in tea pot are unmasked.
:-)
No dem with female relatives would ever allow mccain to appoint supreme court judges who will overturn roe v wade and force women to die by bloody coat hangers.
To my dem sistyers who support Hillary. McCain has said NO exceptions even rape, incest , or life of the mother.
together we will protect you, your daughters, your sisters, and friends right to choose
mccain has united the dem party

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

To blue Irish
Yes if she runs as an independent I and most other Hillary supporters would vote for her. Even if Hillary and Obama split the votes and neither wins it would be alot better for the country than taking the chance on Obama winning and he and the DNC destroying America

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

One more thing – please don’t forget how the election was stolen from Gore – electronic voting machines are capable of being rigged. When the owner of the memory card is the only one with access to it – it can be pre-programmed with negative numbers which will offset the positive ones. The Diebold and ES&S companies have a stranglehold on our voting process – we’d better wake up and change that before we become the mindless puppets of the super wealthy corporations. Chris Rock said ti best when talking about the difference between being rich adn being wealthy. Shaq is rich, but the owner of the team he plays for is wealthy….

Posted by: jozy | May 11, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Steve Moore,
I’ve been discussing about her to run as Independent .
The possiblity she can catch up the same percentage as Obama and so on.
I think for right now she could but I don’t know if she want to become the Gov of Ny later.
She has to stay with Democrat Party right?
If I were her, I leave Democrat Party.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

steve moore you repub
stop lieing
Hillary is a good dem and has already said many times she will 100% support and campaign for Obama 08
repubs faking concern and trollishly pretending to be dems, give it up.
Mccain just united us.
No exceptions even for rape, incest, or life of the mother will see all Hillary dems flock to Obama.
Thanks mccain for uniting us.
Bloody coat hangers = Never again!

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

To Jim
Keep trying but it will not WORK. First you are forgetting that half of America is for it and half are against. The stupid scare tactics will not work. Most Hillary supporters will NEVER support OBAMA. Live with it. And Obama supporters calling white people TRASH and TYPICAL really does not help. Such FOOLS!

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

LOL steve faking being a dem but really a repub
73% of america wants exceptions to allow abortion for rape, incest, and life of the mother
73% means a lot of repubs and most indies want abortion safe and legal for rape cases, incest, and life of the mother.
heck, mccain not only just united the dem party but has also delevired a sweeping landslide voctory to the dems 08
bye bye now

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

PS
sorry for typos
:-)

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

To Jim
I am a true democrat but if you want to call me a republican and it makes you feel better than go ahead because first I am a proud American and I will vote for McCain if the only choice I have is McCain Or Obama. NEVER OBAMA and most of Hillarys supporters feel the same way.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

To Jim
ALL of Hillarys supporters are very good dems but will never vote for OBAMA. Go to all the postings on the web and READ. If we are given the only choice of Obama or McCain than we will vote for McCain. That does not make us bad Dems, it just means we are good Americans that will not sit back and allow an empty suit that is NOTHING put talk and the MEDIA to steal this election.

Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

see what i mean…so again, WOW!!
I dont think this is a place for objective minded democrats (whatever your economic status). lets take our objective selves somewhere else where pretend democrats havent defiled the waters.

Posted by: starsailor | May 11, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

see what i mean…so again, WOW!!
I dont think this is a place for objective minded democrats (whatever your economic status). lets take our objective selves somewhere else where pretend democrats havent defiled the waters.

Posted by: starsailor | May 11, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

just passing through buddy. i dont think im the last ship sailing out of this place. like i said, I dont think this is a place for objective minded democrats.

Posted by: starsailor | May 11, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

This skit is right on target. It tells how Obama and his support was basically callous and ruthless. I felt it was a sly way to inject the truth under the guise of Hillary bashing with stuff we’ve heard before, which is obviously ridiculous as the skit shows. In any case, she states several times that Clinton supporters will not vote for him. All the name calling from the Obama camp against Clinton supporters is working just fine, for HILLARY. Not only will racists not vote for him, we DEMOCRATS (former Democrat for me, I am now an Independent) won’t either.

Posted by: irma | May 11, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

I wouldn’t jump on that weasles ship ever! He and his supporters have been very helpful in making me HATE everything Obama. Obama is a racist in denial. He tries to claim he isn’t racist, yet the woman he married, the church he chose and the double standard campaign he runs proves otherwise. I am half black, I know black racists, they exist and Obama is one of them.

Posted by: irma | May 11, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

I didn’t think that video was satire.
I did not think it was humorous.
I thought it was slanderizing Hillary.
The only point I could see as valid was that her followers will NEVER vote for B O ….

Posted by: questioner | May 11, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

irma
Really?
Even though Hillary herself has said Obama would be a great leader and that she herself will support and campaign for him 100% 08
Also since your daughters, sisters, and friends will be forced to use coat hangers for self induced abortions that will kill the majority. mcCain stated yesterday 100% NO!!!!!!!!!!!! exceptions even for rape, incest , or life of the mother.
The dem platform has always been 100% pro choice. Yet you will allow mccain to take it completly away?
Fake dem. Repub faking trollish concern to turn dem against dem.
Stop
Mccain just united the dem party and delivered a landslide to Obama 08. 73% of all americans want at least abortion safe and legal for rape, incest, and life of the mother.
peace

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Jim I wouldn’t count on that logic in regards to the abortion issue. The women’s vote has jumped ship to the Republicans before regardless of the abortion issue. You also forget that many of Clinton’s women voters are older and while they would obviously support reproductive rights it won’t be their primary issue.

Posted by: alpaig | May 11, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Er – Jesus if he truely came from the region that is now the middle east – he was black. As were all of our earliest begottens. Go figure – we were mostly the same color at one time….

Posted by: jozy | May 11, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

JS
The next president will appoint at least 2 supreme court judges
1- Mccain last week said “strict constitutionalist” judges will be his appointments
+
1- yesterday said NO 100% no exceptions even for rape, incest, or life of the mother
=
1+1=2
mcCain just united the party and delivered a landslide to dems 08
73% of americans want abortion safe and legal for at least rape, incest, and life of the mother
Thanks mccain for shooting your campaign in the foot and uniting dems

Posted by: Jim | May 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

js,
I know there is much hysteria surrounding abortion and the right to choose. Perhaps you watched Justice Scalia about a week ago being interviewed on TV. He was charming and thoughtful but plainly sees no right to choose within the literal interpretation of the constitution. However, the point he made was enormously important. If the SC overturns Roe v. Wade, and note they have had infiinte opportunities to do just that and have not, that does not mean abortions are prohibited by federal law. It means that it would then be up to the individual state to determine whether or not there was such a right and set the parameters for exercising or limiting that right. How many people really believe that there state could successfully prohibit a woman’s right to choose? This is not the ’60′s.
McCain cannot prohibit abortions. It is not the president’s domain at all. He could appoint a supreme court justice who might appear to take a literal approach to interpretation, like Scalia, Roberts, and Alito, but that is as far as he can go. The right to choose has been determined by SC’s interpretation of the US constitution. Stacking the court would be the most a president could do. He/she only gets to do that when a SC justice retires or dies. We have a lot of justices that will be with us for years to come.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Yeah Jim REALLY. I am not worried in the least, I am voting for Hillary in the FALL. Even if I have to write her name across the ballot. Hillary is deep in the DNC so as usual she has to be political. I am not. I am however against injustice! In order to fight injustice one needs to take a risk. No sweet, rational sounding voice is ever going to change my mind. This whole thing is a total rip off and I will not be part of it! I owe nothing to the party I have worked endlessly for. Hillary is my choice.

Posted by: irma | May 11, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

count all the votes:
How can we make sure that West Virginia
and Kentucky are aware that Hillary’s
candidacy is still alive and kicking…
and looking forward to their votes?
The media certainly cannot be counted on for anything!

Posted by: questioner | May 11, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Jim: You’re trying to use one issue — abortion — to convince us to vote for the the most inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist candidate in modern history. Get it through you head; millions of us Democrats WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR OBAMA, PERIOD.

Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Countallthevotes,
Great post 5:38:02pm.
That’s why he ignores WV and KY.
He though he can fool them not to vote anymore. what a shame!
We need to tell people is not over yet.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Jim: I’m a lifelong Democrat, but I’m not a zombie. I actually have the mental capacity to weigh all of the issues, and make an informed opinion as to who I will be voting for. It just so happens that in all prior elections, I have voted for the Democratic candidate. If Obama is the Democratic candidate in November, then I will make an exception.
One more thing. You personify the Obama supporter who, when lost for making an argument, falls back on unrelated arguments, such as “You’re a Republican.” Others use the currently very popular “You’re a racist” remark. Neither of them addresses the issues at hand.

Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Vanessa, if McCain wins then maybe it is you who will have to look in the mirror and blame yourself for Iraq because of the racist, inexperienced, ultra-left liberal candidate you supported.
But don’t beat yourself up too hard. According to his foreign policy advisor Susan Rice, Obama intends to keep 80,000 troops in Iraq. You see, if you’d been paying attention you would know that Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth, saying one thing to one group and the direct opposite to another. That’s one thing he does seem to be experienced at.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 11, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

countallthevotes: I know what you mean about the DNC. I tried to contact them several times, and they couldn’t care less about what we think. Maybe come this November, they will learn a little humility when their messiah is defeated by votes among his own party.

Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Countallthevotes,
I’m Hillary supporter.
I support her not because I’m a woman but I think she is the one fits me.
I trust her.
I just can not trust Obama not because he is black .
I don’t care about color,race,gender as long I think this is the right person to run the country.
It’s just too bad if DNC decided not to choose her.
I think they will make a big mistake to do it.

Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Ouch! That video is brutal, but Clinton is reaping what she has sown.

Posted by: Beth in VA | May 11, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

HooiserSue says:
Vanessa, if McCain wins then maybe it is you who will have to look in the mirror and blame yourself for Iraq because of the racist, inexperienced, ultra-left liberal candidate you supported……………
HoosierSue, You are so wrong. I will blame Hillary supporters for losing to McCain. Spin this all you want but Obama supporters will support Hillary. So it is you that are dividing the party and voting for McCain. Say hello to the draft. Oh, but you don’t care, I forgot. You need to look into the mirror.

Posted by: lisa | May 11, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Posted by: lisa | May 11, 2008 10:36:28 PM
i too will blame the bho supporters. first, because they so easily fell in lock-step behind a man with no credentials, only smoke and mirrors,and second, because they have been so vile in their treatment of hillary AND her supporters, there is no way to expect
hillary folks to forgive and forget.

Posted by: rrt | May 11, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

florida and michigan, those rascal states, if they would have just stayed home like good little voters and not exercised their right that would sure have made things easier. now just look – west virginia and kentucky – trying to be naughty little states as well. hope they were listening to all the pundits this weekend and got the message – stay home – save the gas – take a voter holiday – sure it’s your right to vote – but if you do- well, you might just need to take some remedial math courses. bad enough we have those pesky lying, cheating, thieving clintons out there practicing that ‘ol time politics. saying negative things about their opponent, staying in the race, not giving up. can’t wait for obama and mccain to show us that new style politics. they both have sworn to hold what kennedy might call “noble” campaigns. none of that dirty politicking the clintons so embrace. the banter between obama and mccain in the first debate will probably go back and forth with charges of who is the greatest American.
– you’re a great American
– no you’re a great American
– no, you’re a great American (and so on…)
meanwhile their surrogates, ad makers and bloggers are out dishing the dirt.
so folks, if you like your politicians, unfiltered and straight-up enjoy these final days of the clinton campaign.
we know they’re controversial
– but we like ‘em. like ‘em. yes we do.

Posted by: meandshelia | May 12, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

What people fail to note about the SNL “influence” is that Fred Armisen’s impression of Barack Obama is so friggin’ lame that SNL writers have no choice but to make skits about Hillary (brought home by the comedic genius of Amy Poehler). Or more generally that SNL has so missed the boat on African-American comics (Eddie Murphy expected) and writing for black cast members that it has not yet figured out how to address Obama on the show.

Posted by: Robert | May 12, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Wow. i can’t believe anyone would even think about supporting Mccain. He as ADMITTED he knows little about our economy. He has ADMITTED he has no desire to end our invasion of Iraq, and just last week he was talking about the “League of Nations” – which hasn’t existed for nearly a century. Please educate yourselves, our nation cannot afford another 4 ( god forbid 8) years of an idiot in the whote house.

Posted by: Dan Poffenbarger | May 12, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

barack obama, said it was a bit premature for him to be running for POTUS, he said he needed to spend some time in the senate-but it did not stop him from running and it did not stop people from voting for him.
at least mccain has been working at this for a while.
so go figure

Posted by: js | May 12, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

Wow, Jozy.
It was personal.
It was gripping.
It was real.
I am so glad to read something when it is true, not political rhetoric, talking points, or some other code for keeping things the way the speaker wants them to be.
Good job.

Posted by: Genna | May 12, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am

Lisa, don’t blame Hillary supporters for not throwing their support to Obama. The Obama mouthpieces have made it clear that they don’t think they need us (and when they insult some of us, they insult all of us). They believe they can win with just blacks, kids, and elites.
Fine. Let them try.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 12, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

I simply pointed out that Obama has an ultra-liberal abortion record that many moderate Democrats and Independents will find repulsive. If you’re unaware of it, the Republicans will be glad to tell you all about it in the GE.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 12, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

The one thing the MSM isn’t counting is popular vote. If Hillary stomps Obama in West Virginia and Puerto Rico, she will be ahead in the popular vote.
Now if the super delegates take the nomination away from the candidate with the most popular votes, they will be stealing the election, isn’t that what the Obama camp has claimed?
Methinks this isn’t over.

Posted by: len | May 12, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

rrt, what exactly are you not forgiving and forgeting. This is a presidential race, we are not voting for the supporters. And you’re blaming half the country for voting for Obama, oh please. They have every right to vote for who they want even if you don’t agree. So don’t blame them.

Posted by: lisa | May 12, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

There is no cheating in either direction if superdelegates swing the vote to one candidate.
The superdelegates are part of the rules. Period.
One camp claims that to overrule the pledged delegate count would be unfair. The other claims that to overrule the popular vote would be unfair.
They are both wrong. Cold hard facts, that even I, a die-hard Obama supporter must accept.
Given, pledged delegates have a place in the rules, and popular votes do not. However, pledged delegates would only be decisive if they conclusively put a candidate over the winning threshold.
Neither candidate will get that, so it’s now all about the superdelegates. Pledged, popular, demographics, polls, states won, and other statistics are merely arguments now to sway the superdelegates. Whatever way the supers go, it is legitimate, fair, and legal.
If you don’t like the rules, I agree. But when both teams entered the game, they agreed to them. We now need to honor them, and change them next time if we feal strongly about it.
This does not, however, guarantee that we’ll be going to convention. If an overwhelming number of superdelegates are polled officially by the DNC, and they clearly put one candidate over the other with a sizeable margin, then the losing candidate needs to step down.
This is how it has ALWAYS worked. The only time a candidate goes to convention is if they are the winner, or if the math and/or pledges of support do not present a clear winner/loser.
A candidate always steps down when this happens, as they should. This has NOT happened yet. The campaign should continue until it does.

Posted by: fontapa | May 12, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

the candidate with 16.6 million passionate voters, expected to win big tomorrow in WV and KY, with big and major states already won, counted out, came back, showed strength, intelligence and the ability to debate with excellence time and time again and a stamina to stay the course is ridiculed and questioned why she doesn’t get out. an honorable coach would never ask her this. An honorable teacher would never ask her this. Only the msm would ask her this.

Posted by: meandshelia | May 12, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

the behavior of Obama’s supporters comes very much into play. Obama claims to be a uniter who will bring the country together. The behavior of his supporters has been the very antithesis of that vision.
Debating facts is one thing, and admittedly the Obama supporters haven’t had much to work with due to their candidate’s inexperience, empty hope-and-change mantra, and nefarious associates.
So they resorted to bullying, chiding, and dismissing Hillary’s supporters, not to mention re-writing history to paint both Clintons as a plague upon America.
Obama hasn’t inspired his supporters to be civil, hasn’t changed Rev. Wright and his church, hasn’t proven himself to be anything but an ambitious young man.
It will all be open to consideration when people step into the voting booth.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 12, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

I could say the exact same thing about Hillary’s supporters. They have been extremely rde and nasty. But I’m not voting for them. Nor will it even be a consideration when I vote. I deal with the issues and policies, not what people on these blogs say about the other canidates. I don’t want there to be a draft. I want a better economy etc.

Posted by: lisa | May 12, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Folks, don’t you remember the SNL skit that featured Hillary in a POSITIVE light? Geez.
If the media is unfair to Hillary, it’s probably because they’re fatigued from their ilk during the first administration — then again, maybe not. Scandal sure sells a lot of papers and jacks up ad rates.

Posted by: pembleton | May 12, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

I’m an ardent Clinton supporter and saw the skit. I too thought it was brilliant.
Of course, my demographic may not be smart enough to recognize satire when I see it.
and of course, you have to know as all her supporters do – that Hillary Clinton is no racist!
African americans, understandably proud of their historic, african american candidate know too that Clinton isn’t a racist. When it’s determined that he has no chance of winning and loses the nomination as a result, they will pull together to elect the only democrat that can beat John McCain – Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: s. valenti | May 12, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

(and when they insult some of us, they insult all of us). They believe they can win with just blacks, kids, and elites.
Hoosier Sue, don’t you even feel a little hypocritical throwing out that insult? Wonder which one I am? Black? No. Kid? Hah, hardly. Elite? Hmm, too broke for that.
I’m an Obama supporter, disappointed in Hillary’s tactics, but still willing to back whichever Dem wins. Sorry to mess up your stereotyping, Sue.

Posted by: louielouie | May 12, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“We are the party of the people, the coal miner, the waitress, the truck driver. We don”t need any elitists in our party. Therefore I am going to loan my campaign another 6.4 million in addition to the 5 million I’ve already lent them. After all, this is supposed to be the party of the working man and woman”

Posted by: rhbate | May 12, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

To Jim
ALL of Hillarys supporters are very good dems but will never vote for OBAMA. Go to all the postings on the web and READ. If we are given the only choice of Obama or McCain than we will vote for McCain. That does not make us bad Dems, it just means we are good Americans that will not sit back and allow an empty suit that is NOTHING put talk and the MEDIA to steal this election.
Posted by: Steve Moore | May 11, 2008 4:05:10 PM
_________________
Still day dreaming! Ever find out what a JD degree is, turkey?

Posted by: rhbate | May 12, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

lisa: So what issues are you voting on. All Obama talks about is change and hope because he doesn’t know what else to say on the platform. His word hope is he hopes to be the president and change is changing a white president to a black president. He doesn’t have the experience or knowledge to know how to run the country or talk to world leaders. You don’t sit down and talk to Hamas like he wants to do. Hamas is the enemy. If that was the case Bush would have done it. And won’t Bin Laden and Al Qaeda be dancing in the streets if Obama is elected president. They know all about him and they know he is not as tough and strong as Hillary or McCain. Obama wouldn’t know how to handle them. He would have to ask for help.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 12, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

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