A Touch of Hyperbole?

Yeah, EVERY one.
Just like NO one ever could’ve predicted she would win in Texas, or Indiana, or any other state where she outpolled Obama by on average by 20 pts.

It’s over, Hillary, go home.

Well it is what the polls say and since I hear they really don’t need her supporters she should run as a independent.

Posted by: carol | May 28, 2008 7:55:30 AM says, “then WHY is she LOSING?Delusional….”
For your information, not even Obama in pledged delegates withoutthe help of superdelegated but Hillary is winning the BIG states and the popularity votes which include MI and Florida. Obama win states are voting for Hillary between 75% – 82% if she runs against Mccain. Truth Hurts for Obama and his legions of doom but truth is truth. No one can deny it. She’s more electable than the 2-year starter Illimois senator who stole his position from Alice Palmer through unfair means

neil1785
IF you had done your homework you would know that Obama’s total number of years in politics is 12 – not 2 – you must be a Clinton fan as she cannot do the math correctly either….

Here is the simple fact of the matter
were obama a white male, who didnt have such massive support, who hadnt shattered fundraising records, who didnt offer hope and a dream… .then possibly…. possibly after june 3rd they would give it to hillary clinton…
but here IS the simple fact…
We have the first african american and the first women running. Which ever one of them is ahead in pledge delegates at the end of the primaries
how could anyone take away the nomination from the front runner on this historic election?
you cant…
that simple… for super d;s to not give this to obama WHO IS THE FRONT RUNNER, it would be massively upsetting
clinton has lost this… she can claim anything she wants, but she lost because of POOR PLANNING…
The state argument can surely work in kansas and west virginia… obama just does not do well there, but states that are usually democrat that in the last 4 elections have been democrat…
will probably stay democrat
same with the red states…
I mean one thing we have to all remember is that, obama is up against the brand name… hes tab cola, shes coca cola…
The primaries in michigan and florida will be seated but with half votes…
these contests werent fair more to obama then to clinton… where whomever goes into vote sees the name clinton and marks it down
She has lost, this last ditch effort is a wet dream of hers that if she can spike the popular vote high enough she might have a case
all polls out right now are skewed because on one hand you have obama supporters who know their candidate will be our nominee, and are at the stage in the game where they know that voting for the democrat in the election is the best thing to do
hillary supporters are still in contention, they are still all riled up… give them a few months to come down, and i think a big majority of them will do the right thing.

neil1785,
You talking smack…
Obama has held public office for 11.5 years
Hillary Clinton for 6
talk facts and maybe Ill read the rest of your writings !
Because your either not telling the truth or dont know what your talking about !

Hillary is more intelligent than Bill. Even in the 90′s I had already been hearing reports that the woman is the one actually running the White House affecting most of the President’s decisions and judgements. The Clinton Administration may have ups and downs but in general they were able to give American people true peace and economic prosperity.

Hillary Clinton’s one poll which shows her leading by more was done by… Drum roll please…….KARL ROVE
GIVE ME A BREAK!

Posted by: jozy | May 28, 2008 8:39:50 AM
You sound guilty….

Hillary and Bill need to look at the polls again.
Real Clear Politics poll average is considered the best indicator among polls.
Just looking at a handful of the critical states…
Ohio (both Obama and Hillary win)
Pennsylvania (both Obama and Hillary win)
New Jersey 15 EV (both Obama and Hillary win)
Washington 11 EV (both Obama and Hillary win)
California 55 EV (both Obama and Hillary win)
Minnesota 10 EV (both Obama and Hillary win)
Florida 27 EV (Hillary wins, Obama loses)
Michigan 17 EV (Obama wins, Hillary loses)
Wisconsin 10 EV (Obama wins, Hillary loses)
Iowa 7 EV (Obama wins, Hillary loses)
Oregon 10 EV (Obama wins, Hillary loses)
Summary, the only state that Hillary wins that Obama does not is Florida. Florida is worth 27 Electoral votes.
On the other hand, Obama wins Iowa, Wisconsin, Oregon, and Michigan. Obama’s four states are worth 44 Electoral votes.
These are among the 20 battleground states that parties are fighting over. I only noted states where there is enough polling information to provide an average and states where a Democrat leads. If the limited polls from other battleground states are used, Obama maintains his lead over Hillary in Electoral votes.
Why do the Clintons lie about the polls?
Ed Rendell also lied about these polls last night. When these numbers were brought up by the moderator, he said he didn’t know about these numbers.

Many women who are avowed Hillary Clinton supporters are declaring they won’t vote for Barack Obama in the fall. I get the anger and the disappointment. But to quote SNL’s Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers: Really? You’d rather vote for John McCain, a man who has a 25-year history of voting against a woman’s right to choose? A man who over the last eight years that NARAL has released a pro-choice scorecard has received a 0 percent rating? A man whose campaign website says he believes Roe v. Wade “must be overturned”? A man who has vowed that, as president, he will be “a loyal and unswerving friend of the right to life movement”? Really?

bhrandon,
Lucky you posted that I was thinking about going to protest! Thanks : )

Its funny that obama almost never mentions hillary anymore…and when he does, he issues lavish praise to her and her campaign…
and yet all she can do is continue to divide the party…
most people when having no clear path to victory do whats right for the party and get out…
im not calling for her to get out, but most people would have got out by now… but its ok, only 6 more days of the clintons…
that is unless they decide to go to the convention, in which case we know what her plan is…. run again in 2012
the only problem with that is….
her legacy will now be roped around the fact that she destroyed the democrats chances of winning in a year the democrats should have an easy time winning, and i dont think anyone will look back kindly on that….

Posted by: geevill | May 28, 2008 9:18:35 AM
I couldn’t agree more. He’s gonna be roasted alive in GE. What’s even more exciting if Hillary runs as independent. Everything will be divided but the slight edge goes to her side. The astrological stars are in favor of her that’s why she’s not quitting.

Posted by: bhrandon | May 28, 2008 9:24:12 AM
You are damn, right! I’m still voting for Hillary, whatever happens and millions of people supporting her will do the same thing if not for John McCain. If John McCain picks up a balanced running mate like Mitt Romney who’s well-versed in economy that will fill up his disadvantage, so much the better. We will never vote for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. He’s a toast.

Hillary’s “Justifications”
I am the inevitable nominee – Sept 07
We know
It’s the pledged delegates who chose the nominee – Dec 07
Oh wait,
It’s the Super delegates who should chose the nominee – Mar 08
What I’ve ALWAYS said was
It’s the popular vote that really matters – Apr 07
I’m still losing? Hold on, what I meant was
It’s uh…electability? Did I try that one yet? May 07

Posted by: Kate | May 28, 2008 9:31:55 AM
Dream on, Kate. Hillary will end up with the nomination. You’re counting the chickens too early. One more mistake from Obama… I believe he misspoke/lied about his Ghost Uncle in WWII?
Hillary ’08

Hillary can unite the party.
Hillary can beat McCain.
Hillary is the most electable.
I’m an independent educated voter.

geevill,
You are a republican! Its your writing I read you type the same!!!
Ive watched the video and obama is singing the words and looks the most patriotic of them all there…

Obama’s latest gaffe:
Obama said his grandfather enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, which was December, 1941.
“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.
WWII Kansas Veterans Index: His grandfather, Stanley A. Dunham, enlisted in the Army on June 18 1942, six months after Pearl Harbor.

THIS RACE WILL END AT THE CONVENTION – AND THAT IS THE ONLY DEMOCRATIC WAY TO END THIS RACE!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 28, 2008 10:05:05 AM
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Yes, with Obama getting the nomination, just as he should, being AHEAD and all.
Good, glad we are on the same page now.

If you cant trust what she says now then she cant be our president after bush we know how important that is!

jmc663,
Hillary will not steal the nomination…
THATS CRAZY TALK!!!

Why this liar have any support? I mean really? I could not honestly stand to live in my skin if I supported someone who lies like this unhinged woman does! Too much is at stake this election with the supreme court and the war and the economy. Imagine if she got in office! Bush lied to us about WMD and then her? OMG

jmc663,
My stomach turmed when I read it…
She does think she is our queen and that she can make things go her way..

LOL You really must be one of the uneducated people supporting Hillary the Unhinged. Obama WON the majority of pledged delegates even if you include the faulty elections held in FL and MI

Straight facts.
Hillary the Unhinged vote that the votes in FL and MI would NOT count until she needed them. Just like those voters would not have counted when she was in office. LOL ONLY when she needs them. Those are the facts to any educated person who can read and assumilate information.

get the facts straight? sure here they are:
a number of democratic leaders have offered to pay for the cost to re-run the elections in LF and MI – fully.
what did the obama boy do?
he took the donors money from the voters in FL and MI and then used their money to pay lawyers to STOP the voters from exercising their right to VOTE!
we all know what the truth is about FL and MI:
Hillary wanted a re-vote
DNC wanted a re-vote
Obama fought against the fundemantal right of people to VOTE!
why? and why isn’t the media asking obama why he has a problem with people VOTING?
the obama people have been trying very hard to stop the voting process!
the obama people are trying to stop the delegates from exercising their right to VOTE!
that, my firends should bother every single one of us.
why is obama sooo opposed to letting people VOTE?
we elect officials in this country.
Let the people VOTE!
let the delegates VOTE!
and
COUNT ALL THE VOTES!

She is delusional and looking worse every day.
For being down with the working class, she sure has a lot of her own money to throw around. Let’s see what happens when she pays herself back before the grocery stores in Iowa. Then we will see how she feel about the working class.

and all you hillary suppoters thinks she is gonna bring our troops home yeah right she was for the war in iraq and she said she would start a war in iran if they attacked irsael hillary is suppose to be a smart strongminded woman in your eyes than why did she agree with bush on the war we the people knew it was wrong and the smart hillary didnt give me a break i can see it now those troops wont come home and shell just be feeding us more of her lies on why they cant come on people wake up to her nonsense THINK THINK THINK you have a brain use it!!!!

and all you hillary suppoters thinks she is gonna bring our troops home yeah right she was for the war in iraq and she said she would start a war in iran if they attacked irsael hillary is suppose to be a smart strongminded woman in your eyes than why did she agree with bush on the war we the people knew it was wrong and the smart hillary didnt give me a break i can see it now those troops wont come home and shell just be feeding us more of her lies on why they cant come on people wake up to her nonsense THINK THINK THINK you have a brain use it!!!!

That revote was to be financed with clinton money
please
and as far as i have read his lawyers never STOPPED any revote, they questioned its lagisitcs as many did….
he has repeateadly said that we shoudl come to some resolution but ultimately it was up to teh rules committee to decide what to do
if you are going to argue with that then why did hillary say the votes wouldnt count? why was she fine with it?
and now that she is losing she is unfine with it?
this wouldnt be happening on her side if she were winning, and you can take that to the bank

He isn’t. When MI came up with a caucus he agreed and Hillary the unhinged is the one who said No. Remember, only when it benefits her will she agree.

AVERAGE JOE,
ONCE AGAIN…………..
Privately funded elections in MICHIGAN are illegal.
They have to BE FUNDED by the STATE or by THE DNC.
What don’t you get?
Should I say it sllloooowwweeeerrr?
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sure, go a bit slower, could you..
what private money are you talking about?
because i am talking about donor money – and that is fine in any state of this great nation of ours!
why do you obama supporters insist in coming up with all teh crap in the world to justify not letting people exercise tehir right to VOTE!
you really like that don’t you..
we VOTE in america!
even if obama doesn’t like that!
even if you obama supporters don’t like that!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!
LET THE DELEGATES VOTE!
LET THE DEMOCRAIC PROCESS RUN ITS COURSE!

So you too think that since Obama followed the rules and removed his name in MI that makes it a fair vote? what about all his supporters who have sent notice to the DNC that they stayed home since they were told their votes would not count? Fair? Not hardly. Only to a Hillary the Unhinged supporter.
Obama agreed to a caucus when MI proposed it.

Obama agreed to a caucus when MI proposed it.
Posted by: Brian | May 28, 2008 10:50:10 AM
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True, but you have to remember that according to HRC, caucus states don’t count.

AND if you READ any news article you will find that what occurs in the primary stage never applies in the GE LOL IF Obama was not fighting Hillary the Unhinged he would beat McCain in the electoral vote…oh by the way the one I am reading at Rasmussen does not agree with your numbers. Where did you find them?

Just more of what we have all come to expect from Hillary the Unhinged, more lies.
I just went to Real Clear Politicsw where they average all 7 of the major polling data..Obama beats Hillary the Unhinged by 10.7 today and beat her in ALL 7 pools from Rasmussum to Gallup.
IF I were a Hillary the Unhinged supporter? I would be really be concerned that she thought I was stupid

Only when you lie to them do they feel like they are getting the truth.
Posted by: Brian | May 28, 2008 10:52:49 AM
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Oops, I forgot. My bad.
Only Hillary can win the GE.
Only Hillary can save the World.
Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman ever born.
Hillary Clinton can believe “It’s Not Butter”
Hillary Clinton can beat Mothra and Superman in a two-on-one.
Better?

Average Joe
WHY is obama opposing counting ALL THE VOTES?
The basic Principle that Hillary seems to forget when on her rants is that:
ELECTIONS SHOULD BE FREE AND FAIR
TELLING PEOPLE THAT AN ELECTION DOESNT MATTER IT WILL NOT COUNT!!! ONLY THEN TO SAY HA HA HA TRICKED YA IT COUNTS NOW!
DOESNT MATER YOU DIDNT GET TO CAMPAIGN THERE !
DOESNT MATER THAT PEOPLE KNEW ME BEFORE BECAUSE I WAS THE FIRST LADY THATS HUSBAND CEATED ON ME AND WAS IMPEACHED !
IT DOESNT MATER THAT YOU AND ALL THE OTHER REMAINING CANDIDATES REMOVED THEIR NAME FOR THE BALLOT THAT I WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THERE AND STILL ONLY GOT 50%
THAT IS REALLY MORE LIKE ZIMBABWE THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL AN INJUSTICE
OUR NATION IS BUILT ON FRE AND FAIR ELECTIONS
RULES ARE RULES !!

Ya know Hillary the Unhinged had this race to lose…and she has lost through lying to people, race baiting and using the poor voters in MI and FL. While she thinks the DNC will save her she fails to realize these are the same people who said MI and FL could not vote early and if they did they lose their votes. Now she wants them to say “oh sorry” we were wrong. Not happening and so Hillary the Unhinged has decided to encite her supporters to the point that McCain wins in November. Yep she cares about the American people just as much as she cared about the voters in MI and FL in the beginning.

Obama, once again, has taken the high road and ask his supporters to not rally at the DNC meeting.

Ready on Day 1? More crow anyone?
Vetted with the most experience? More Crow?
The best candidate? Deep fried crow?
Honest? Baked crow?
Skeletons? Buffet of crow?
It’s a total CROW DOWN! Hotsauce?

florida and mi did not count-if they counted from the beginning than obama would have won mi and won florida!!

The bottom line is no FL or MI counted and included, no voting.
Americans who feel this is a slap to ALL voters…..STAY HOME IN NOV…..
we do not count either!

That latest Rasmussen Tracking polls show McCain with a 4% lead over Obama in the General Election.
They also show that McCain has the support of 83% of Republicans, and 43% of Unaffiliated voters.
Obama has only 70% of support from Democratic voters, and 40% from Unaffiliated voters.
Sounds like trouble for Obama to me.

Average Joe:
Once again, you seem to have trouble with the facts.
Obama came out with a press release to all of his supporters asking them to NOT hold any protest at the committee meeting on Saturday.
He did that for PARTY UNITY. Why hasn’t Clinton come out to say the same? I’ll tell you why. Because she cares more about HERSELF than what’s good for the party.

In his March 25, 2008 column in the NY Times, Obama supporting David Brooks ticks off this as a reason why Hillary should get out of the race, as a proud accomplishment of the Obama campaign:
“Second, Obama’s lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan.”

It’s not the case of which party should win this fall. What’s more important is who is the most deserving, most qualified candidate who can deliver soutions to our issues, regardless of party affiliations. If Obama is representing the dem party then we’d rather have someone else who is qualified with experience and sound judgement. Obama is not the man for this delicate position.

OBAMA GETS:
–Guam Senator and Democratic National Committeeman Ben C. Pangelinan
–Oregon Democratic Chair Meredith Wood Smith.
–Colorado Democratic Chair Pat Waak.
Today’s tally: Obama 3, Clinton 0.
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Guess the Super aren’t buying her arguments either.
Only 46 more to go!!

news flash
FLORIDA COURT THROWS OUT CLINTON COURT CHALLANGE!!
THE PARTY SEAT THE RULES AND ONLY THE PARTY CAN CHANGE THEM!
: )

Mary,
OBAMA IS BETTER THEN HILLARY and mcbush
Hillary is better than mcbush
true..

because in this country we DO count the votes!
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Unless we DON’T. like the 238,000 uncommited voters in MI.
In that case, they don’t count, because, well…errr…they don’t.
ONLY votes for HRC count.
Get your FACTS right, Average Joe.

Kate:
Appreciate your opinion.
Clinton was a great candidate who unfortunately ran a poor campaign. Now, though, it’s time to come together as one Democratic Party to defeat McCain.
Let’s hope for the future together!

I can’t vote for Barack Obama because of his stance on abortion, gun control, and the war on drugs. As much as the party may want unity, the party is asking me as a conservative democrat to do more than step out of my comfort zone — the party is asking me to support someone whose positions I find unconscionable. John McCain isn’t bad enough for me to do that.

“What we want most is to defeat John McCain.”
What we want most, Mary, is competent leadership for the sake of our country. Party allegiance went out the window when the DNC began its death march to the sea for that donor list.

jilynee
so you wouldnt be voting for hillary either
thanks for the input

When Bill Clinton came to the White House in1993, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors, when he arrived, 21 eight years later.
A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Clinton is dishonest and will lie whenever she thinks she needs to.

average joe
does hillary support the vote?
all signs point to the fact that she was against it up until she needed it
what does that tell you about her?
how have the clintons been acting lately?
They are desperate, so desperate they are doing and saying anything to plead their case…
This was their election to lose, and they lost,
to borrow a line from bill
“and dont let anyone tell you differently”

Average Joe wro. Let all people finish voting without proclaiming that obama won until all the votes are in and COUNTED!
2. Let all DLEGATES vote at the Convention!
fair deal?
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Agreed, 100%!
See, we are not that far apart.

Average Joe wro. Let all people finish voting without proclaiming that obama won until all the votes are in and COUNTED!
2. Let all DLEGATES vote at the Convention!
fair deal?
*******
Agreed, 100%!
See, we are not that far apart.
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cool! i didn’t think we were :))

Average Joe
“and that is NOT set by the DNC!
people VOTE based on the rules set by their states!”
***********I POSTED THIS BEFORE BUT I GUESS YOU MISSED IT*******************
FLORIDA COURT RULES AGAINST CLINTON
JUST HAPPENED WATCH SOME CNN
The Floria Court Does not buy your argument.
Court Rules the National party sets the rules that all parties agree too.
Court says it doesnt have the atority or inclanation to seat the delegates!

You know you Dems had an opportunity to fix this little MI and FL problem right AFTER Gore lost to Bush. If you didn’t want SD’s and Pledged Delegates to be the final determination…if you wanted it to be all about the “popular vote”, you could have fixed it then. If you didn’t want to hold caucuses, you could have changed it then. Why didn’t you?
All this stuff Hillary is throwing out now to completely rewrite the primary rules based on her losing results is insane and flies in the face of what I call a democracy.
All you people crying to count all the votes need to look back at ALL the signatures TO NOT SEAT MI AND FL if they voted early. Those signatures included one Hillary Clinton’s signature. You need to understand that caucus states can’t just be tossed out because they didn’t go in her favor.
I suspect you didn’t change the rules up front because they have served your party well over the years. I suspect many thought it was no contest; thought Hillary would be coronated, crowned the democratic nominee. I suppose she didn’t insist that MI and FL not be penalized if they voted early because it would play right into her “thru by Super Tuesday” plan.
Guess what…America felt differently. We started hearing about this guy called Obama. Many of those who listened were Republicans and Independents. We started really paying attention to him and his message. We went to see him speak and found we DO WANT AND BELIEVE IN CHANGE. Some of us got to looking at the Republican lineup and decided maybe that wasn’t the game for us this time. And, we got out and started working for Obama, donating to him and voting for him. We started saying “not this time”. We didn’t want a couple of candidates shoved down our throats. We wanted more than a choice between bad and worse for President. We felt it was time to take back our nation and rid it of destructive special interests and lobbyists.
The democratic party has a problem that will get “fixed” Saturday. No one is going to be happy. FL and MI should have “protested” earlier…right after the penalities were announced. You knew the risk; you took the risk and now you want the rest of America to feel sorry for you? There are no “fixes” after an election is in progress, half over, three quarters over. The rules are the rules and anything less than enforcing them is a huge sign of weakness on the part of the Democratic party.
If the Democratic primary is up-ended by this pathetic woman and her husband, we have all lost a part of our freedom. It would not just be about FL and MI breaking the rules anymore. It would be that a fair and honest election cannot be held in America. I assure you if that happens, McCain WILL win.

“based on every analysis of every bit of research, and every poll that’s been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win – I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall.”
“Really”
Yes! Really.
Jacksmith… Working Class :-)

Posted by: Mary | May 28, 2008 11:24:53 AM says,
“I am an Obama supporter. But, if Hillary had won the nomination, I would have voted for her. Can you say the same? Obama supporters want unity. It doesn’t sound that way at all in the Clinton camp.”
Mary, that’s baloney. You’re just saying that because you can see that Obama is almost getting a majority of support from superdelegates to win the dem nomination. If it’s otherwise, you would be saying this – it’s either Obama or McCain or stay home.
The democratic party is so divided, the position may end up with the republicans. Superdelegates are not seeing and deciding wisely…. OBAMA is NOT QUALIFIED regardless, period.

They will say HRC is another 4 years of Bill Clinton, and that aint good.
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why not? those were the only times in recent memory when we as a country were actually paying off the national debt, creating wealth like never before in history, creating jobs, etc. etc.
i happen to think that having bill there is a good thing.
i don’t think we as a country can afford to pay for obama’s education. it will takje obama 5 years to just learn the ropes..
i mean, look at what he is doing now: engaging mccain in a national conversation?
why?
if nothing else, it is way premature because it really insults the intelligence of every single voter out there yet still to cast his/her vote.
that aside, engagin mccain at this point is really really stupid.. shows that obama does not have experience.
mccain was dying for a reason to get media attention – obama put that on a silver plate for him. so, mccain can raise some money right? he needs it. as he needs FREE publicity. sorry, not free because obama is paying for it :))
i mean, seriously, what was wrong with the clinto years? stock market was going throught the roof, we were paying off the national debt and every single counrty in the wrold wanted to be like us..
clinton went to war and won without one single casualty! in yugoslavia.
i want those times back! i really do. hillary can do it. obama needs time to be able to actually do what he wants. he will never tell you that but, think about it. if experience and knowledge doesn’t count, why do we send our kids to school for?

Average Joe,
2000 is like 2008. “Maybe yes, maybe no”.
Here is a link on CNN about it from November 20, 2000. Right BEFORE the election Gore v. Bush

Many women who are avowed Hillary Clinton supporters are declaring they won’t vote for Barack Obama in the fall. I get the anger and the disappointment. But to quote SNL’s Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers: Really? You’d rather vote for John McCain, a man who has a 25-year history of voting against a woman’s right to choose? A man who over the last eight years that NARAL has released a pro-choice scorecard has received a 0 percent rating? A man whose campaign website says he believes Roe v. Wade “must be overturned”? A man who has vowed that, as president, he will be “a loyal and unswerving friend of the right to life movement”? Really?

Neil1785:
I would NEVER vote for John McCain so he can take away my right to choose.
Do not put words in my mouth. I am a supporter of the Democratic nominee–whoever that may be.
But, like it or not, it’s going to be Obama.

The most important reason I could not vote for Hillary is that she is a manifest liar. The second reason is that she lacks the necessary foreign policy experience, to wit, her experience in Bosnia. How could I respect a leader who is in a plane that makes a “corkscrew landing” all the while fighting off snipers and the only backup she has is her then twelve-year-old daughter, a guitar player and a comedian. She could have at least brought along a sax player.