As Scottie Sowed, So Is He Reaping
Before he wrote his own memoir, White House press secretary Scott McClellan was rather critical of those who did the same.
In fact, some of the same language now being used to trash McClellan he himself used to trash previous administration authors.
On the book critical of the Bush White House written in cooperation with former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, "The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House, and the Education of Paul O’Neill," McClellan said on January 12, 2004:
McCLELLAN: "It appears to be more about trying to justify personal views and opinions than it does about looking at the results that we are achieving on behalf of the American people."
McClellan also took issue with the book by former Bush White House counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke, "Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terror," on March 22, 2004:
McCLELLAN: Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he’s raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book. Certainly let’s look at the politics of it. His best buddy is Rand Beers, who is the principal foreign policy advisor to Senator Kerry’s campaign. The Kerry campaign went out and immediately put these comments up on their website that Mr. Clarke made. …
Q: Scott, the whole point of his book is he says that he did raise these concerns and he was not listened to by his superiors.
McCLELLAN: Yes, and that’s just flat-out wrong. …When someone uses such charged rhetoric that is just not matched by the facts, it’s important that we set the record straight. And that’s what we’re doing. If you look back at his past comments and his past actions, they contradict his current rhetoric. I talked to you all a little bit about that earlier today. Go back and look at exactly what he has said in the past and compare that with what he is saying today.
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Posted by: MayBee | May 28, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
It just goes to show you what this Administration is all about — selfishness, greed, and looking out for number one. McClellan’s story is no surprise to anyone, is it? It’s just reflective of how these guys will sell out anyone, even their “buddies” and former bosses just to make a buck. I hope they all rot.
Posted by: HeidiL | May 28, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
The mantra of ex-Bush people seems to be, “I drank the koolaid until I didn’t”. How many people does it take before the White House begins listening? All of them I guess.
Hypocrites
Posted by: JR | May 28, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
It’s all about cashing in.
Posted by: LongT | May 28, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
I gotta feeling about 27% of the public are going to be unhappy with Scottie’s book.
And all the rest of the People are gonna say ya, that’s about what figured.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 28, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Come on we all know this war did not have to happen. Our leaders let the American people down. Bushies should all be held responsible for all the cost,lives, etc. They should be going to jail. Anyone that supports this crap from this administration should also go to jail. Just fo back and play what was going on. I sat there and watched it — could not believe what we were about to do for no reason. And we attacked this country as if it was a movie/ pertend. Sick!!!
Posted by: CAL | May 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
We all know what’s going to happen here. McLellan is going to be damned with faint praise by administration officials, then on background, the same people are going to be pointing out every mistake, traffic ticket, or pornography purchase McLellan ever made. He’d better not have any dirt in his closet.
On the other hand, if it all bothered him so much when it was happening to other people (like Valerie Plame), then why didn’t he resign once he knew Rove and Libby had let him lie to the press.
Posted by: skeptimal | May 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Scott is doing a HUGE favor for the USA, he’s reminding all of us that we should absolutely NOT vote for McCain!!
His timing is flawless and I applaude him!
Posted by: dan davenport | May 28, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
When you have sold your soul to the devil and for all the goods, good-times and mis-deeds that happen – a tell all book does nothing. It is simply telling yourself what others of us have known for years and watched as millions of our fellow citizens groveled at the troth of the pig-sty of this Administration. Can some recall as I the NY Times report: WASHINGTON, Aug. 20, 2004 — President Bush’s chief spokesman said today that the White House had nothing to do with ads accusing Senator John Kerry of lying about his service in the Vietnam War. But the spokesman, Scott McClellan, also said that Mr. Kerry was guilty of unfair attacks upon the president. “I do think that Senator Kerry losing his cool should not be an excuse for him to lash out at the president with false and baseless attacks,” Mr. McClellan said at Mr. Bush’s ranch in Crawford, Tex., shortly before the Kerry campaign filed a complaint before the Federal Election Commission. Mr. McClellan was replying to questions about an article in The New York Times today reporting that some people behind the anti-Kerry ads had connections to the Bush family, to prominent Texas politicians and to President Bush’s chief political aide, Karl Rove…….This nation got four more years of GWB because McClellan was part and parcel of the cover-up. Nothing upon the altar of self-incrimination will bring back the over 4,000 young dead and this hypocritical self-appointed “I’ll tell it like it was” after I took the tax-payer’s dollar and smiled pretty and patted the President’s back and looked down my nose at the hard working men and women while I sipped champagne and was chauffered around. WHY DID YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WHEN YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WERE DYING AS A RESULT OF WHAT YOU CALL “Political”…..Geeezzz I am beside myself.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | May 28, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Too little, too late, Scottie. You should have found your conscience when it would have done some good. I’ll bet you’re still looking for your backbone… LOL
Posted by: David Z. | May 28, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
What hogwash! McCLELLAN is still working for Bush trying to coverup his complicity in treason. He trying to say poor Bush didn’t know what he was doing. Pure BS and spin. They knew what they were doing and did it deliberately, they wanted to invade Iraq and did so by lying and deciet and are guilty of treason to the United States of America.
Here are a few paragraphs not mentioned in the article from the book….
Scott McClellan
“I still like and admire George W. Bush. I consider him a fundamentally decent person, and I do not believe he or his White House deliberately or consciously sought to deceive the American people. But he and his advisers confused the propaganda campaign with the high level of candor and honesty so fundamentally needed to build and then sustain public support during a time of war. Had a high level of openness and forthrightness been embraced from the outset of his administration, I believe President Bush’s public standing would be stronger today. His approval ratings have remained at historic lows for so long because both qualities have been lacking to this day. In this regard, he was terribly ill-served by his top advisers, especially those involved directly in national security.
All the president can do today is hope that his vision of Iraq will ultimately come true, putting the Middle East on a new path and vindicating his decision to go to war. I would welcome such a development as good for America, good for Iraq, and good for the world. Bush knows that posterity has a way of rewarding success over candor and honesty. But as history moves to render its judgment in the coming years and decades, we can’t gloss over the hard truths this book has sought to address and the lessons we can learn from understanding them better. Allowing the permanent campaign culture to remain in control may not take us into another unnecessary war, but it will continue to limit the opportunity for careful deliberation, bipartisan compromise, and meaningful solutions to the major problems all Americans want to see solved”
You can see that Bush is still his hero but just couldn’t help himself and was duped by others.
Time for a trial for treason for the who damn bunch of them…….
Posted by: Phil Waste | May 28, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
You can’t sell a book that says anything good about anyone.
Posted by: Neo Politicus | May 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
It makes little difference to me what McClellan says–Bush detractors will seize on the book and Bush defenders will attack it.
What do the commentariat think of someone who saw all the evil but played the game and now that he’s out, is writing a tell-all. Looks to me (1) like McClellan lacks any moral scruples, and (2)is out to make a buck–He might get a gig as a commentator, or on the lecture circuit–but considering he saw all this alleged evil, and did nothing—what does THAT say about his character. What a loser.
Posted by: Summer Ranger | May 28, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Each time I drop by this site the crackpot factor in the comments section is high.
Bush is dumb. Bush is Hitler. Bush is…
Get a life you nuts.
What happemed to personal responsibility? Personal honor?
If McClellen felt this way, he had a responsibility to make his opinions known to the president and other advisers. If he felt as strongly as some of the quoted passages indicate, he had a responsibility to resign. I am sorry, but any reasonable person must see that.
McClellen’s failure to bring up these issues at the time, his failure to resign, and his late stage coversion to the positions of the president’s critics, indicates McClellen is a skunk.
He should be lambasted for lack of character. After he gets his million, my guess is that he goes into hiding.
Doug Santo
Pasadena, CA
Posted by: Doug Santo | May 28, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
In one day, McClellan went from lying mouthpiece of the Bush junta to darling of the liberal left, and all he had to do was legitimize their fantasies and tell them what they wanted to hear. He just needs a chapter in his book about how Bush read a story to a pet goat while the World Trade Center burned and he’ll get a statue dedicated to him at DNC headquarters.
Posted by: Larry | May 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Can we sue President Bush and the Republican Party for the waste of American resouces (including military) in Iraq? While they can not make up for the loss to American families, they should be required to finacially reimburse every veteran and his/her family for the time spent in Iraq. Additionally, they should be required to reimburse the federal treasury for the funds expended in Iraq, and finally, they should apologize to the American people.
Posted by: John | May 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
What a whiner! He’s always been a covert democrat.
Posted by: plainsm | May 28, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I CANNOT wait to read Scott’s book so I can find out what other CONFIRMED lies the Bush administration has told to the American people!
Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | May 28, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
these people are all liars, if you do not say exactly what they want, you are in the parking lot,
Posted by: stan | May 28, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
When McClellan was in the bubble of the Bush whitehouse he wanted to believe Bush and Cheney and was loyal to them. It took getting away from the small group of yes people for him to finally see for himself what Bush has done to sabotage our nation and the constitution. People can believe what they will, but the truth is that neocons wanted to attack Iraq and take over the oil. Then they enjoyed putting all their cronies into Iraq to make all the money they could off our tax dollars. America has been brought low by these corrupt men.
Posted by: Vicki | May 28, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I think it’s really interesting that because Mr. McClellan has written a book that is critical of the Bush administration, he is characterized as a “disgruntled former Whitehouse employee” with an axe to grind. In the event that this simple fact has somehow been overlooked by the President and his cronies, let me reiterate; a large portion of the citizens in this country are disgruntled, have an axe to grind, and couldn’t agree more with Mr. McClellan’s assertations. The denial factor is so pervasive with this administration, and the fact that they are all so deeply out of touch with public perception is sad.
I am looking forward to reading Mr. McClellan’s book.
Posted by: anne | May 28, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
All and everyone associated with the Bush gang are liars and seems to be out for their own interests, NOT Americans interests. They are also resposible for the deaths of thousnds of brave American soldiers! Treason comes to mind…
Posted by: Art | May 28, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
There is a world of difference between the earlier tell-all memoirs and the tell-all publication of a man of conscience like McClellan. They were getting money for those books and he wasn’t. Now that he’s making money from the racket a great wrong has been righted.
Posted by: Publius | May 28, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Funny how all you righties are condeming the man you fawned over. Salivated over his every word that propped up this president. Have any of you stopped to ask why it is that almost all of Bush’s people are writing this kind of book when they are out from under his apparatus? Could it be because they are finally speaking the truth? Not that any of you could accept that Bush decided to go to war with Iraq come hell or high water – even if they had nothing to do with 9/11. That is the problem with the fiscally, morally and honesty challenged Republicans. They drank the Koolaid! They believe the are fiscally responsible and then grow governments and debt. They impeach a president for lying about something about half of the impeachers were doing or had done. They never met a lie they didn’t like and then got themselves to believe it was true.
Posted by: mattman | May 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
We will see who is laughing in November.
Posted by: mojo man | May 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I think we all know by now how Bush jerked us around and how the so called liberal media and our so called liberal Senators and Congressopersons, like HRC did not ask the hard and tough questions when it was really meaningful and responsible to do so. His book does not tell us anything knew except that he seems to regret being part of the arrogance and propaganda machine that led us to this sorry state of affairs.
Posted by: Madeleine | May 28, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Scott should’ve spoke up a long time ago if he had these concerns. And remember- “If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.” You Bush bashers are probably loving the flip-flop Obama right now and how he says IRAN is a tiny country one day and a grave threat the next. When the Nuke goes off in your backyard you’ll still be drunk on your kool-aid! Semper Fi! Brian USMC
Posted by: James | May 28, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
At some point, a man has to face his conscience. Conscience is that silent voice which tells us if our conduct is right or wrong. A man with a clear conscience is a free man…he has nothing to fear. Evil will always attract evil, while good attracts good. It is the law of life, therefore, take responsibility for your actions.
Posted by: mwd5 | May 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
It’s funny how Republicans are all liars and cheats until they start bashing fellow Republicans. When they do that, all of the sudden Democrats view them as the most truthful people on earth.
Posted by: Jeff | May 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I can’t believe how many people will automatically believe anything Bush does is wrong. Obama wants to go talk to the revolutionary Iranian idiots that took over our embassy in ’79 because they are good people at heart. Just like Carter knew he could trust the Soviets, he was fine letting them know who our CIA agents were because they would let us know all the KGB agents in the US. Wrong – the good ole Soviets shot all our agents I think I am going to puke every time I hear a speech from Robin Hood from Illinois.
Posted by: john | May 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
At some point, a man has to face his conscience. Conscience is that silent voice which tells us if our conduct is right or wrong. A man with a clear conscience is a free man…he has nothing to fear. Evil will always attract evil, while good attracts good. It is the law of life, therefore, take responsibility for your actions.
Posted by: mwd5 | May 28, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Obama got himself a press secretary when he becomes president. I am sure Obma, Hillary, Scott, Kerry, Carter (too bad kennedy is sick), They all can straighten out this country and the problems Bush caused. Other cabinet members I recommend…Rev Wright(Sec of State), Rev Jesse J, Rev sharpton.. Wait with all the reverends this country is going to be religious again. (Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Georgia, an “assault on a police officer.”)And of course Obama’s cabinet will not be complete without McKinney as Secretary of Defense. Does this sound good to you libs? Enjoy the book!!! If you lefties buy this trash enough it will help the economy and it will definitely help poor whiny Scott.
Franny
Posted by: franny195 | May 28, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
After all, Scott is a representation of what the Bush administration is composed of from top to bottom. Lies, deceit, greed, arrogance, ruthless and anything in between all of the above. I am not “puzzled”.
Posted by: john | May 28, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Better late than never… More proof that Bush and Cheney need to go before the world court for the WAR CRIMES they have committed.
Posted by: Let's Be Real For A Minute | May 28, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Leave it to the acb…amalgamated corporate broadcasting SNOOZE network to fail to realize that Scott had to answer that way while he worked for the bushbaby administration which just happened to trick the acb network to bite on all their war lies and now can’t stomach the apology to the USA that they owe US…CASE CLOSED…NEXT!!!!
Posted by: daddyblue | May 28, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
You have to realize that Scott was a horrible Press Secretary and he probably has no future doing ANYTHING, so he needed to slime this Administration to be a millionaire.
Loyalty is not something that is found in Washington DC. Everyone is out for themselves, sad place!
Posted by: semby | May 28, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
What everyone seems to miss is the real reason for the Iraq war. Afganistan was too far away. Iraq is right next to Saudi Arabia (where most of the terrorists on the planes came from) and Iran, who we’ve never liked. Perfect position to let all the crazies come across the border and be shot. Iraq wasn’t the source of terrorists, and may or may not have been a threat with WMD’s. They were just a convienient target. The Bush administration cannot say this publically. The best part is that the plan worked! Lots of extremists dead, realtively low number of military deaths and casualties. Still less soldiers killed in the war than civilians that died on 9/11. So I say, more power to GW. I’d vote for him again if I could.
Posted by: Jared | May 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Scott McClellan is thinking about his legacy. He must account for his role in the worst administration in U.S. history. I can’t wait until Bush’s autobiography comes out. I am sure that he, too, will use the same language to trash Cheney and all the neo-cons that contributed to his failures.
Posted by: hamishdad | May 28, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
3 words…WAR CRIMES & IMPEACHMENT
Posted by: Let's Be Real For A Minute | May 28, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
I wonder how much influence the Obama campaign had in getting this book out at this time. Bet Senator Obama has a copy and told every one of his advisors/speech writers to secure a copy. His campaign will use anything to make points against the Republicans.
Posted by: Mary | May 28, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
You know its times like this that make you proud to be a democrat, whether you support obama or clinton or edwards or richardson etc. One thing we all have to agree on is we do not need 4-8 more years of these nut job clowns in the white house ruling our loves. We as democrats need to support our nominee who ever it may be. Im not clinton 08 im not obama 08 I am democrat 08
Posted by: Scott | May 28, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
As has been said already…if Mr. McClellan really felt this way about the administration he should have spoken up sooner (when he was working for the administration) or he should have resigned. Those are the actions of an honorable man. But let’s face it. If he wrote a book saying nice things about Bush, Cheney, Rice etc. nobody would even hear about it. This way, it gets right to the top of the nightly news and will be fodder for CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC for days to come. And for what? This is OLD NEWS people. The intelligence was wrong, plain and simple. And not just the US but Europe and Russia as well. But it will give the looney left the chance to rant and rave “Bush lied, people died” all over again. First the left says Bush is an idiot…then they say he lied and tricked them. If you are fooled by an idiot, what does that make you? And I just love all these posts here and elsewhere but the kool-aid drinkers who whine about how Bush has ruined this country and “stolen” our liberties and “wrecked” our economy. To listen to them you’d think tanks were rolling down Main St. USA while people stood in line at the soup kitchen.
What a bunch of alarmists crybabies!!
Posted by: Bill | May 28, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Scott McClellan is or was telling the truth. Which is it? A real “man of conscience”. This guy is just like his Mama, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. He is, and always has been, an empty suit. The embodiment of the Peter principle. Since he worked in the Bush WH, he must be evil. How can anyone believe an evil person?
Posted by: johnintexas | May 28, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
“if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
RUSH rules.
BUSH? not so much.
Posted by: Mook | May 28, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Wash, rinse and repeat. This is hilarious how Scott is now, all of a sudden, being truthful. At what point do you believe someone? When they say what you want to hear? Now that he’s bashing Bush he’s honest. Right?
Posted by: Chris | May 28, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Wow, another book/movie/etc bashing Bush. The leftest will hail it as outstanding material regardless of the matter within, since when have Liberals been concerned with facts when it comes to tearing down Bush. The right will shrug their shoulders and wonder how this stuff could be made up. And for the bloggers who refer to Bush as an “idiot”, think about it, you and your ilk have tried for over 7 years to bring him down and have failed at every step. Makes me wonder who the real idiots are.
Posted by: Stan_DC | May 28, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
All bloggers-
Were you at the Whitehouse? The way I see it is there are 2 sides of a story, I wasn’t there so I can pick side. Blasting one side or the other only to show that you’ve already made up your mind regardless of what happenned.
Posted by: JayN | May 28, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Hmmmmm, how much is integrity worth? Only Scottie can be the true judge.
Posted by: Lee | May 28, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Aside from going against norms regarding writing about ones boss(in this case GW Bush), what does this say about the guy who wrote it. How much money was he offered for this piece?
This sounds to me a lot like he is trying to cash in on the “trash” Bush campaign that has been waged by the press/democrats for the last seven years. My suggestion-don’t bite. Save your money.
Posted by: kevin | May 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
I like George Bush. I appreciate the war effort. I’m glad no one has been blown up in the grocery store in the United States since 9-11, remember we all thought that was going to happen? And this McClellan sounds like a sorry Judas-type.
Posted by: FMV | May 28, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Scottie Fat Boy was toeing the line
Til came his moment to speak his mind.
Posted by: kravitz | May 28, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
What possible reason could any of you have for supporting the war? Oh, I forgot! HILLARY is one of you! It all makes sense now…
Posted by: grateful | May 28, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
The beauty is that Scottso pushed the lefty button and they all run to buy the book and with all the money he earns (from the stalinist democrats) he can donate to good American Republican candidates! Brilliant? No. Lefties are just sooo predictable.
Posted by: sydbloom | May 28, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Some of the Scott McClellan “should have expressed his reservations at the time” crowd are really funny. Only a few people in 2003 truly felt Saddam in the sandbox wasn’t as big a threat as he was made out to be and none of them resided in the Bush Administration. In 2008, many of the Bush Adminstration insiders feel the same way they did then, the opposite of the way most of the country feels today. So, I ask, why in 2003 should Mr. McClellan be any different? Isn’t he allowed the opportunity, when faced with the cold, hard facts, to make an intelligent and heart-felt reflection and provide discourse on those facts? Why do people feel this man must think the same way in 2008 that he did in 2003? I’m sure he’s itching to sell his book, no doubt. But, at the same time that doesn’t mean he’s excluded from adding to the debate and trying to get politics back to the business of governing and not to the pastime of selling the people a load of crap. It’s real easy to get turned and twisted, especially when you want to believe in the person HOLDING THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND. So, to all of the people striding in on the high-horse…dismount and try to understand where this guy is coming from. It’s not about partisan politics, it about elevating the discussion and actually doing something for the people of this country.
Posted by: PHCDR Herm | May 28, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Does anyone out there really believe him (McClellan, Bush, Cheney, Libby, Rove….. take your pick)? What the hell happened to our U.S. of A? Will someone please retore some honesty, integriy, and accountability to our government and to the reputation of this country that I LOVE!?!?!? Democrat…Republican…. just give me an honest American to vote for please! With that said, don’t trust a rat!
Posted by: Not Left or Right | May 28, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
The greatest source of propaganda and misinformation isn’t the Bush White House, it’s the comments section of a Drudge-linked article. One shining example is Jared’s comment:
“The best part is that the plan worked! Lots of extremists dead, realtively low number of military deaths and casualties. Still less soldiers killed in the war than civilians that died on 9/11. So I say, more power to GW. I’d vote for him again if I could.”
The number of non-hijacker deaths from 9/11 is 2,974 people, and the number of U.S. troop deaths in the current Iraq War as of Memorial Day 2008 is 4,082 people. The Iraq War deaths do not include the deaths of other coalition troops or innocent Iraqi civilians.
For all of the alleged crazies who came over the border from Saudi Arabia or Iran and got killed, there are several more remaining in those countries and in other countries throughout the Middle East who are joining Al Qaeda in droves and eagerly plotting another strike against the U.S.
What happens if we have another attack in the U.S. while we’ve got 140,000 troops stationed in Iraq? How are we going to defend our country or retaliate when our armed forces are stuck in this Iraqi quagmire?
Posted by: TexaDem | May 28, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
How mis-informed you all are. Let’s see what has happened in the last 7 years: WE have stopped terriosts attacks on our home ground, given more responsibility to the individual while the Stupidcrats have given illegals more rights then legals, given the lazy more handouts from the hard working, made religion a liability and now their loser leader, Omama, wants to take us the rest of the way to Socialism.
Fly Navy
Posted by: Steve | May 28, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
20 percenters like FMV aside, the question here really is — was he lying then, in staunchly defending the administration? Or is he lying now in criticizing it. My bet is that he was firmly entrenched back then, and lying at the behest of his bosses, just like Dana Perino and company are doing now!
And just like McCain’s folks would do if he were to be elected.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: jackt51 | May 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Have 3 words for ya Scottie:
Teddy bear McClellan
Posted by: plainsm | May 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Is this more to do with the lack of support his mama got in her run for Governor?
Posted by: Tom | May 28, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Scott is just out to score some money. That is paramount to him. Because of that, he’s okay with being disingenuous and hypocritical.
Posted by: James | May 28, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Who cares!
Posted by: Chisum | May 28, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
This administration sold out the American people. We deserve better.
Posted by: Kevin C | May 28, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Judas in the person of McLellen. How much money will he receive How much does it take for a man to betray those he worked with and represented. I thought he was the worst press rep I had ever seen and now I think he is the most avaritious and would betray his mother for enough money. Dont buy the book- it is fiction!
Posted by: ladybug | May 28, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
TexasDem?
You need to do a little fact checking.
1. how many US citizens here and abroad have been killed prior to the war on terror? (I’ll give you a hint; MORE than the amount of soldiers we’ve lost in this war)
2. how many US citizens here and abroad have been killed in the last five years? (I’ll give you the answer…. NONE)
Yes, the War on Terror is one of the few ‘wars’ the US is actually winning.
Go educate yourself.
Posted by: Ann | May 28, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Ann is kidding right??? “2. how many US citizens here and abroad have been killed in the last five years? (I’ll give you the answer…. NONE)”
No, Ann, the correct answer would be over 4,000…
Posted by: Sarah | May 28, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
There are still people out there saying “Yes, WE CAN!!!”?? What — are you serious?
Posted by: Liberal Family | May 28, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Could a Bush supporter please name a single administration official who ‘stood up and disagreed’ with the president or ‘spoke out’ and did not get reprimanded for their disloyalty?
Posted by: kraken | May 28, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
I guess Scotty needs one more “15 minutes of fame”. He obviously made himself unemployable, who would hire such a despicable traitor. Not that he will have to worry to much about a job after this book.
Posted by: Bud | May 28, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
I cannot believe how accepting of this book the MSM finds it. Campbell Brown of CNN was actually defending Scott. Gregory on MSNBC, a Brit Hume of Fox, where the only two that I heard this evening, to question the truth of the book. No one questions that Scott did not even have access to some of the things he talked about. Also, he was still supporting the War in 2007. Google it. I think the MSM needs to take this book with a grain of salt, unless of course they just want to run with it to help them get Sen Obama elected. What happen to honest reporting?????? If he wants to clear his soul, he should give all the money to the Wounded Soldiers Fund.
Posted by: homjett | May 28, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Comparing this guy to Judas equals comparing Bush to Christ… Scott may be a slimy bastiche, but it’s not like he’s betraying the sinless son of God. He’s betraying a lying SOB that is a disgrace to the office of President.
All you Bush apologists are truly showing how cowardly and scared you are. You have bought in to the scare propoganda. This war has created more of the extremists that you are pissing yourselves over, drained hundreds of billions fom the national treasury, and hurt American credibility and goodwill around the world. Terrorists aren’t born, they are made.
BTW, I’m not a democrat. Anyone who picks a side then defends it despite the truth is an idiot. Democrat or Republican
Posted by: Wha?? | May 28, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
It’s all about the money. McClellan’s editors probably encouraged his dark embellishments in order to sell more books. I.E. the rankings on Amazon.com. I would agree that mistakes have been made by this administration. However the leftists in this nation have been moaning griping and complaining ever since Florida 2000 and their golden child Albert( Snake Oil Salesman ) Gore didn’t get the CEO of the USA. In the last eight years the vitreole in this nation has risen to a fevered pitch. In my opinion the people in charge act more like a bunch of spoiled rotten 2 year olds rather than aged politicians. We the people need to just get over it and realize their will be a new administration just over the horizon. The only problem is will we elect a committed socialist or a” maverick” who will not stand for anything. As for me I vote “None of the Above.”
Posted by: Morgan | May 28, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
How I see it:
Saddam Hussein was an evil despot.
His sons were even worse, and would have carried on their Dad’s work well into the future.
Saddam had pursued and used WMD’s in the past, and had plans to re-constitute those programs.
The recent oil boon would have put billions at his disposal.
Saddam wasn’t complying with UN declarations, and the UN voted unanimously to take take him to task.
After many warnings to come clean, we took him out, while it was still possible to do so without major WMD involvement.
Reports are that the war in Iraq is, after some predictable setbacks, going well.
The 4,000+ killed in Iraq is of course regrettable, but well within the definition of major success when seen in any kind of historical perspective.
We haven’t had any further large scale terrorist attacks on our soil, and AQ is on the ropes as seen in their own captured communications.
History is replete with stories of those that dithered away opportunites to rid the world of tyrants, only to pay the price of millions dead.
The world is well shed of Saddam, and I believe history will prove President Bush made the right decision to do what had to be done.
God help the world if the inexperienced and naive Obama gains control of this most wonderful of countries.
Thanks for reading this, and tell me if any of this resonates with you.
Posted by: Jeff | May 28, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Scott seems to be a man of conscience, much like George Washington. No, not the one who never told a lie, the one whose face appears on a dollar bill.
Posted by: Michael Lofrano | May 28, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
This guy was the most craven press secretary in history. Now he blames everybody else — for money.
If,during his tenure working for the inarticulate Bush, McClellan had been on a par with his successor Tony Snow, the public would have been better informed and Bush would not be the most villified president
Posted by: Hombre | May 28, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Assuming all you wrote is true, who is the next world leader we take out? What country do we spend hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars and American lives to rebuild and protect?
Hugo Chavez, Ahmadinejad(who cares how it’s spelled), Kim Jong-Il? What about China, they have some of the worst human rights violations of any country. The answer is that we are not the world’s police force. Yes the world is better with Saddam gone, but is the US better off? I’d say no
I remember seeing a documentary on Bush Sr. on PBS. When talking about Iraq this is what his cabinet had to say:
“Back in ’91 we were always asked why we didn’t go in and finish the job? We don’t get that question too much anymore.”
Iraq is a quagmire that is sucking the life out of this country’s economy. This president should have done as he promised and stayed away from nation-building
Posted by: OKay Jeff | May 28, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I can’t stand Bush. However, I think Scott is a back stabbing weasel and who does he think he’s kidding? Ship is sinking, he bailed and is trying to make money on his book.
Posted by: irma | May 28, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Jeff, you are right on. What a wonderfully succinct list….
Posted by: Missy | May 28, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
A lying hypocrite lies and distorts truths to become the toast of the town to libs.
What a way to sell books!
Good luck with that Scottie. At least you know you have a lot of new friends.
Posted by: MK | May 28, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Maybe he used some of the same language to trash previous administration authors because… that was his job?
Just a wild guess.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | May 28, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
“darling of the liberal left”? In that case, the over 70% of the country that’s sick and tired and disgusted with warmongers is the liberal left.
“Bush read a story to a pet goat while the World Trade Center burned” He wasn’t reading TO a goat, he was reading ABOUT a goat.
Posted by: MJM | May 28, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“Et tu Brute” No one trusts a backstabber!
Posted by: plainsm | May 28, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
When a soldier deserts a corrupt regime he inevitably finds himself the target of the same gun he once operated.
This is no different.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | May 28, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Let’s see how he does under oath. The stakes will go up at that point. He shot his mouth off. He can show the world what substance his allegations have or he can do time with Scooter.
Posted by: Flyoverman | May 28, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
It must be true it’s written in a book.
Posted by: Greyfox | May 28, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
McClellans Book Lacks Much of Anything
Whats there to add about Scott McClellans new book? All the excerpts Ive read seem to only say what President Bushs critics have been saying throughout his Presidency: Bush lied, people died; Iraq was a war of choice not ne…
Posted by: The American Mind | May 28, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
George Bush bad, Democrats good. LOL
Posted by: Greyfox | May 28, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
If Bush himself came out and told the truth about all the lies he told to get us into Iraq, many of you would come out saying that he doesn’t now what he’s talking about. I’ve often wonder how so many in the Middle East and other parts of the world can be duded into carrying out such atrocities again humanity. Now I finally see how that’s possible.
Posted by: Richard | May 28, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
….. but I trust McCain’s criticism of the Bush administration even less.
McCain is the new Cheney.
He’s almost as experienced.
Posted by: hank | May 28, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Another guy saying it’s not HIS fault..he did everything he could…no on listened to him…he was decieved…he was stunned and afraid….
sheeeesshhh !!! heard all of this before, from so many of these political people…
It seems to me that Bush’s big blunder was to have a lot of people around him, that were basically untrustworthy….bad judgement…from Collin Powell to this snerdly guy…
Wouldn’t want to rely on any of these people to watch my back….
a pox on them all….
Posted by: j robertson | May 28, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I laugh at the statement Bush lied.
If Bush lied, so did Carter, both Clintons, Gore, Kennedy and just about every other congressman, along with the majority of foreign leaders. All these people believed the intelligence from many agencies that Saddam had WMD, first because he had used them on his own people. And imagine what Saddam would be able to buy with oil @ $125/barrel. As for Scott McClellan, lets see what evidence he has to support his allegations, if has none, which is what believe, his 15 minutes of fame will come to a screaching halt.
And his book sales will crash. He better get a good attorney.
Posted by: Michael | May 28, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
I wonder who is behind this scandal book affair?
Anybody told him to do so?
Is this related to election?
Posted by: catleya | May 29, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Jeff … you seem to one of the few here with a working mind.
The rest are suspect. How can you folks in good conscience use the deaths of 4,000 fine young men and women who volunteered to serve their country for your crass political drivel?
How do you defend the loss of 58,000 lives by Kennedy-Johnson Democrats in a war in which WE WERE NOT ATTACKED?
And don’t gimme that Iraq didn’t attack us crap. Saddam Hussein was a terrorist sponsor … stuff THAT in your narrow-minded empty space called a head.
Posted by: Rod Miller | May 29, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
just amazing!!!
a kiss and tell book
remember when Linda Tripp spoke her mind about the Clintons??
well she was a traitor and how dare she..
Now this guy is looked on as some hero
gee,how much money did he get for this book, becauce in my opinion he sold his soul and the rest of America with it.
Posted by: me | May 29, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
FMV and sydbloom and all bloggers,,
Let me get this straight, you mean that you don’t believe that the Iraq was a complete failure from the start?
Daddy Bush had more sense than Jr., or had the right advisors. He stop the surge into Iraq because he knew it was a no WIN position.
But we have some fools here in America that will not believe the bump on their FACE, is a real bump.
We Americans that are suffering from the cost of the war as we have enslaved our children to a DEBT to CHINA and others want to FACE THE TRUTH.
ALL other FOOLS believe what you want.
Yes we can..
A vote for a Republican would be a vote to confirm that you will buy SWAMP LAND IN FLORIDA.
YOU CAN LEAD A MULE (JACKASS) TO WATER BUT YOU CAN’T MAKE HIM DRINK (IN THE MIDDLE OF A DESERT)..
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT… WHY
HE HAS BEEN UP FRONT WITH WHAT HE HAS TO WORK WITH….
HE WILL PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT POSITIONS TO DO THE JOBS ASSIGNED TO THEM. (Hillary and Bill owes FAVORS and some of them will get positions that they will be CLUELESS)
YES “WE” CAN
WE MEAN THE PEOLPE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THAT LOVES THIS COUNTRY AND BELIEVE THAT IT CAN BE BECOME GREATER THAN EVER, WITH THE PEOPLE BECOMING APART OF THE GOVERMENT. NOT LEAD LIKE SHEEP
Posted by: American10 | May 29, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Bush,
FEMA, and a Horse farm heading that position.
What a laugh
Posted by: American10 | May 29, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
He’s just writing what the 68% of AMerica who disapproves of President Bush want to believe. He’s a pandering opportunist.
Posted by: RickS | May 29, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
It’s different now that he’s selling HIS book. I rest my case.
McCLELLAN: “Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he’s raising these grave concerns that he claims he had.”
McCLELLAN: “Yes, and that’s just flat-out wrong. When someone uses such charged rhetoric that is just not matched by the facts, it’s important that we set the record straight. And that’s what we’re doing. If you look back at his past comments and his past actions, they contradict his current rhetoric. Go back and look at exactly what he has said in the past and compare that with what he is saying today.”
Posted by: Dave B | May 29, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
george bush told lies can any of the 60 million idiots who voted for him believe this nonsense i hope not
Posted by: kieran mc hale | May 29, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
A simple Google search on the House’s Report “The Iraqi WMD Challenge — Myths and Reality dated February 10, 1998” will serve to add perspective to the sense of the U.S. House of Representative’s view for the need of an Iraq War Resolution.
It was not a war that should have needed “selling” to begin with although the Bolshevik wing of the Democratic Party later saw an opening to go on a truffle hunt to root out votes with another “peace movement.”
One might suspect that, based on the timing of the book, McClellan “saw his opportunity and took it” to come up with a National Enquirer quality expose that would offer him an immediate financial return on his effort. Secondarily, a person could likely wager successfully that McClellan would surface in some mid-level federal job with the proposed Ibn Obama administration if such a disaster came to fruition,
Surely McClellan will feel more at home with the opportunity Obama affords the nation for a second Jimmy Carter term. The democrats didn’t learn their lesson after the first one evidently although the nation learned the hard way about hiring the bumbling and inept failure that gave us a modern Iran in all its Islamic theocratic splendor. Even the Kerry crowd had enough sense to insult Carter by sitting him next to Michael Moore in the presidential dunce box at the last democratic convention. Based on what he has been doing lately, they should seat Carter under the next convention site.
Posted by: Dryden01 | May 29, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
American10, you wrote: “He (President George H. W. Bush) stop the surge into Iraq because he knew it was a no WIN position.” Actually, Bush 41 did not go in and finish off Saddam Hussein because the neighboring countries funded the war on the condition that we NOT take out Saddam Hussein.
Now maybe this is news for some of you, but the 1991 Gulf War never ended. There was only a cease fire based on the agreement that Saddam Hussein would meet certain conditions, including proof that he no longer had WMDs. Saddam Hussein failed to comply with ANY of the conditions. And if anyone lied about WMDs it was Saddam Hussein. He wanted his neighbors to believe that he still had WMDs. He could not offer the proof to the UN Security Council that he did not have WMDs and still have his neighbors believe that he did. So he chose to continue with the lie. After 12 years of his failing to comply with the cease fire conditions, the UN Security Council issued a final ultimatum. However, since the UN Security Council made it clear that they were not going to follow through on their ultimatum, President Bush issued his own ultimatum. The invasion could have been avoided, all Saddam Hussein had to do was to prove that he no longer had WMDs. Saddam Hussein called what he thought was a bluff on the part of President Bush. Instead, President Bush kept his word.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Jeff: about as tidy a summation as anyone could ask for. Most people who oppose the Iraq war apparently think the only U.S. wars ever worth fighting were the Revolutionary War and WWII…and both those wars had plenty of naysayers (Loyalists and America Firsters) clamoring to stay out.
Posted by: Eric | May 29, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
Let’s go Wexler…get McClellan and Benidict’s bestest buddy, Rand Beers into testify under oath about his statements.(political motivation?)
Going to have to be quick though, before this all gets debunked.
After that, He needs to be tried for treason, jailed and or executed
Posted by: claspur | May 29, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am
I find the article a little disengenuous. Surely the author knows that white house press secretaries speak for the administration and not for themselves. As white house secretary it is your job to discredit anyone who would criticize the administration. I’m amazed that there is such a large number of people who don’t understand that. Folks, this is how we got into this mess in Iraq. The dissenters were silenced and ridiculed.
Posted by: Lee | May 29, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am
Political motivation?
Just found it…Cash and Smear.
“Little Green Footballs”
The Soros/McClellan Connection
Posted by: claspur | May 29, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am
Get real. He wants to sell books and make money. His editors sensationalized his comments to attract media attention. That is how the book business works.
Posted by: GEORGE | May 29, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
McClellan is not telling the American public anything that we did not already know. This administration is far worse than the Nixon administration ever dreamed of being. They have all committed treason in my book and should be thusly charged. McClellan is a no-account coward. He had an opportunity to stand for truth long ago, and could have stood up then. He chose not to do so, but rather to be a mouthpiece for lies and propaganda. Now he is crying. He should be skewered right along with the rest of these neo-con nazis who are dragging this great country through the mud.
Posted by: Gene | May 29, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am
I can’t believe you are all buying into this. You are just a bunch of sheep.
Posted by: Bob Z | May 29, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
Scott was always a closet liberal and has been persuaded to come out of the closet now because a critical national election is at hand. I don’t believe he wrote the entire book and there is evidence his family isn’t all together truthful either. Scott sounds like a spoiled brat and I wondered why in the world he was chosen press secretary in the first place. He certainly never lived up to the challenge…now we know why, yet he didn’t have the courage to resign…money!
Posted by: Al Barrs | May 29, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am
It seems that McClellan is trying to get the red “kool-aid” stains off his tongue and his hands. Now he’s serving black coffee to anyone who wants to sober up. I can’t see any reason for him to come out at this time, other than to ensure McCain’s loss in November.
Posted by: essence | May 29, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
I believe Scott and can understand why he waited until he was out of the White House to voice his opinion. If anyone has ever been in the military then you understand that what your Commander In Chief (Bush) says is what you say. You are just a parrot unless you do not want to move up or make more rank. A few years ago some ex -Generals spoke out and some people were saying that they were not being truthful and were just disgruntled. NO! They could not say anything before if they wanted to leave the military with and honorable discharge, or if they wanted to keep their current post.
When Barrack Obama is President watch how Gen. Petraeus’ attitude about the war changes.
Posted by: Theo | May 29, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
the entire basis of this article rests on the assumption that SM was stating his personal opinion when he was the white house secretary. since that is obviously not the case, the hypocritical slant doesn’t really work. just be angry that he further exposed the incompetencies of GWB and his administration and move on…
Posted by: jeff | May 29, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
essence said:
Now he’s serving black coffee to anyone who wants to sober up.
********
Great post. Great analogy!
Posted by: jmc663 | May 29, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
And while we’re suing, let’s remember to sue the democrats who believed the CIA and foreign agencies who said Sadham had weapons of mass destruction and was ready to use them. Sue Ma Clinton and Obama. They believed too. I must admit. From what I’ve heard, items from Scott’s book doesn’t sound like the Scott I remember. Another David Brooks?
Posted by: Richard | May 29, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Theo, you wrote: “I believe Scott and can understand why he waited until he was out of the White House to voice his opinion.” Scott McClellan left the White House on Apr 26, 2006. Just over TWO years ago. According to several individuals who have continued to keep in contact with Scott, as late as last year, Scott never expressed any of the comments that are said to be in his book. To the contrary he continued to defend the Administration and the lead up to the War in Iraq.
Gene, I know that there is nothing that I can say that will change your (or many of the commenters’) opinions of the Bush Administration. I just know that historians will certainly be a lot kinder to the Bush Administration.
Part of me wonders if maybe we shouldn’t just let the Liberals take over the country for four years so that you and the whole world can see just how misguided the Liberals are. My rationalization is that you (and the others) will then actually witness what real “dragging this country through the mud” is…but then the consequences of even four years might be so huge that I really can’t wish that upon us.
I listen to Sen. Obama’s rhetoric (and that is all it is, rhetoric). He talks about the need to improve our school systems. Yet he had been in a position to actually make positive changes to the Illinois school systems. And they are worse now. In fact, the Democrats have had control over most of the largest urban school districts in the United States for decades. Democrats don’t want to solve problems…they want the problems to remain so that they can use the problems as issues when running for re-election. Education has been an issue in every election for the last 60 years — even when the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress by nearly veto-proof majorities.
And then there is the issue of the high cost of gasoline. The Democrats are using the $4.00 plus per gallon of gasoline as an issue. But not only have the Democrats advocated raising the federal tax on gasoline $1-$3, but many have actually said that we Americans should be paying the same price ($6-$8) that the Europeans are paying. But on this issue it has not been just rhetoric. For decades the Democrats have actually blocked efforts to increase our supply of oil. They block new drilling. They block building new refineries. And now the Democrats want to implement a windfall tax on the oil companies. This will only lead to even higher prices.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Dan Bartlett is going around stating that the reason for going to war was based on “flawed intelligence.” However, there are some who believe that this Intelligence was not flawed, but MANUFACTURED, as in the forged Niger documents yet to be truly investigated! I cannot in good conscience let Dan Bartlett’s statement go unchallenged!
David Gregory thinks it is ok for the Bush Whitehouse people to come out and say the exact same identical talking points, as if they are devoid of a thinking, rational mind and are unable to use their own ideas — ideas which might get them in trouble, however. This form of speaking in this manner is Brainwashing and dictorial, and it is not ok. And, I think David Gregory knows this. This type of brainwashing and parrot-like mimicking and chorus from our elected officials is indefensible and inexcusable in a working democracy.
And many are shooting the messenger and missing the point, the content of the book the glimpse it gives into a mind or a group of minds who thought it important enough to invade a country which has not invaded us, something never done before in American history and boarders on barbaric! What matters when he wrote it or why he wrote it, when we are getting a sliver of a glimpse into the truth and inner workings towards a war which should never have been Authorized and waged!
And YES, the Media failed us then and it looks as if they are failing us now. Going all around the issues that this war was planned first and then reasons given out later to fit the scenari and that maybe the so called intellegence was most likely manufactured! If I, who am just an average Joe knew that this war was wrong and most likely manufactured way back when, when a few courageous people stood up and said NO to this war against the chorus of the Yes Men and Women, then the Main Stream Media, shoud have also known or at least asked the hard questions, something they failed to do. This lesson in history is not only a failure of the Bush administration due to lies and distortion but also of a Media who did not do their job and was led by their “journalistic” noses to enjoin into a disastrous and unjust course of action which has badly devastated and devitalized the American way of life and those too of the Iraqi people. There is no true reconstruction moving forward in Iraq or in America — are bridges are falling for God’s sakes and our Cranes, weekly or monthly around the United States there are incidents of cranes falling! Where is the media on those stories? No, they rather spend hours on superficial stories on Britney Spears, hollywood socialites, Rev. Wright, Barack’s bowling score, how many beers did Hillary drink, Saturday Night Live skits, etc. There are a few champions in the Media but they are few indeed and often silenced out! Hopefully this tide will turn and journalists will find and live up to their calling again!
Scott McCllean’s book is a story waiting to be finished. Slowly, steadily the truth will emerge, layer by layer until the whole pattern takes shape and form, as in the unburdening of our conscience of some long-dark held secret — the full pattern has yet to emerge, this is just a part.
Posted by: Angellight | May 29, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Excellent post James Danley. ’nuff said.
Posted by: Bob Z | May 29, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Regardless of what his intentions are, what McClellan said on the Today Show today is right. Most politicians go into Washington with high ideals but soon realize that if you don’t play the game, you won’t be there for long. So they start playing the game hoping they’ll get something accomplished and end up disconnected from the real world and out of touch in their Washington bubble.
Posted by: Cindy | May 29, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
It breaks my heart to read so much hate talk from my fellow citizens. I guess it is true what they say: “…if you hear a lie enough times you will believe it to be factual…” I can remember back to FDR and every president has been the target malicious lies which history eventually corrects. Don’t get me wrong, our Presidents haven’t all been completely free of mistakes.
There is a difference between an honest mistake and malfeasance. For all of you who are part of this latest round of Presidential hate, and scaremongers, have you asked yourselves if what you claim is true why hasn’t this new congress started impeachment proceedings against our President and Vice President? Could it be they prefer the dark.
I hope Scott sells lots of his books and makes tons of money, isn’t that what going to Washington DC is really about? Loyaltye463 8g1is over rated in the work place, there really isn’t such a thing as a loyal employer so why do we expect a terminated employee to be loyal? That is just silly.
Posted by: Roy | May 29, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Mc has no credibility. He wasn’t even the WH spokesman when the war started. He wasn’t involved in any of the run up to the war and had not one iota of knowledge of what was said, much less going on. He wants his 15 minutes of fame but it will be as a liar and a turncoat.
Posted by: Ozark_Sunshine | May 29, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Don’t U.S. government employees sign confidentiality agreements? Im surprised that white-house staffers and former dog-catchers can write these tell-all books in the first place.
In Canada, you must sign such agreements into perpetuity, and can only be trumped under oath in court.
Posted by: FDuquette | May 29, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
James Danley –
Conservatives, have already run this country nearly into the ground, $9 trillion dollars in debt. Liberals may control the urban school districts, but the conservatives control the money. There is a direct correlation between quality of education in school districts and average income level. Conservatives continue to push for school vouchers and choice in where parents send their kids, stating that private schools are better. In fact a new Dpt of Education report shows that public and private education are about equal. Math scores between public and private schools are the same, private out performs public in reading scores.
This notion that conservatives have that private sector always is best, simply does not hold up to fact. Public education in this country is declining in part because of republicans consistently favoring private over public. De-funding public schools or hamstringing them with metrics that are derived only from standardized tests.
To your point about gas, drilling our way out of the current problem is a very short sighted solution. Any new drilling, say in ANWR, isn’t going to provide any immediate relief. It will take YEARS before ANWR would be productive. Even if it had been opened up in 2003-4, it wouldn’t be able to provide relief now. Conservatives seem to life in this alternate reality where resources are unlimited. Oil is going to run out someday. The US can either prepare for that inevitability, or hide our heads in the sand. Increased fuel efficiency and development of alternative energy sources will not only reduce prices but also allow for energy independence.
Posted by: Matt | May 29, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Scott is hearing only one thing today:
KA-CHING!
$$ is why he wrote this book.
“For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”
Posted by: Brett | May 29, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
“I just know that historians will certainly be a lot kinder to the Bush Administration.”
This is exactly the kind of lunacy one sees when a story ends up being linked on Drudge. Nothing else can quite match it for bringing them out from under their rocks.
Posted by: Jon | May 29, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
FDuquette: “In Canada, you must sign such agreements into perpetuity, and can only be trumped under oath in court.”
So in Canada the public has no right to know what is going on in the bowels of government? And I thought that Canada was a democracy. Knowing what is going on in government is absolutely essential to a democracy. And there are things going on in government that only insiders know.
Here in the United States we are concerned that whistle blowers have some protection; in Canada, apparently, whistling blowing is a crime.
Posted by: grandpaw | May 29, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
McClellan got the drop on his former bosses at the White House. His book is on the shelves now while the rest of them have to keep their traps shut til after Bush is gone or risk excommunication. He’s going to rake in the money that they would have gotten. It’s all about the money. The truth is that Bush doesn’t take care of his friends after he’s finished with them, there’s no honor among thieves.
Posted by: James | May 29, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
When someone is part of an organization, they do not want to blow the whistle on any part of it. Once the individual feels the safety of time and distance, they then begin to feel “safe” about comming out. You cannot judge the past actions and opinions of what this man said while still serving the president, that would be very ignorant judgement.
Posted by: NAU2010 | May 29, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I would much rather have a third McBush term than a second OCARTER term.
Obama says the war was caused by not enough and bad info given to Bush and Obama says he will talk to our enemies but not our generals or go to Iraq to see for himself what is going on “Where’s the change”?
Where are the xtra states Obama talked about in MEXICO?
Posted by: PM | May 29, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Folks, this is all about money. McClellan is striking while the iron is hot. His timing is impecable, the real start of the next Presidential campaign, Bush still in office and the Democrats in control. Why should Americans outside the beltway believe anything in this book? If we should not believe anything Bush or any politican says then why should we start with McClellan, now if he was a Stateman like Senator Everett Dirksen was or Joe Liberman is now then that would be different. Remember in everything Washinton follow the money.
Posted by: Mr. Reality | May 29, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
NAU2010
If SM really believed all he says not he is a complete coward and traitor for not speaking out to the press then and saving all the “Blood and Treasure” that has been spent.
He too has the blood of all lives lost on his hands.
Posted by: PM | May 29, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
The Truth will prevail. HONEST-LOGIC
Posted by: ALL_THE_TRUTH | May 29, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Matt, conservatives do not push school vouchers because all private schools are better. They push school vouchers because they want parents to have a choice. When there is choice, there is competition. When there is competition, the bar of quality is raised. Too many public schools are failing our children. Why should the poor be forced to keep their children in these failing schools? Since the Democrats have controlled many of the school districts in which these failing schools are located, one can question the sincerety of the Democrats desire to educate our children. They would rather kowtow to the unions and place the unions’ interest above our children.
$4 per gasoline is now a reality. $5 per gallon is right around the corner. Some forecasts have gasoline possibly going to $15 per gallon within the next five years. There are only two ways to lower the price of gasoline: Increase supply and decrease demand. We have not had a new refinery built in over twenty years. Over TWENTY YEARS!!! It’s not for a lack of interest in building. It is because the Democrats and the environmentalists have block construction for over twenty years. As for drilling, thousands of oil dereks were shut down in the 1980s and 1990s. And in some places they were filled in with cement. This was the policy of the Liberal environmentalists. They knew there would be a call to reopen the oil dereks. By filling in the dereks with cement, this would make an immediate opening impossible.
I agree that we need to begin using alternative fuels. But that won’t happen over night. In the meantime our economy is being dragged down by the CURRENT high cost of energy. And there is no end in sight. If we immediately began drilling and producing more of our own oil, the cost of oil futures will drop significantly. And the sooner that we (the United States of America) can begin producing an additional 50-100 million barrels a day the quicker we can break our dependancy on OPECs oil. You are right, if Congress gave the green light for this right now, it will take several years before it would come to fruition. BUT if Congress waits another fives years before giving the green light, then it will be that much longer. If they never give the green light, then our economy will suffer for decades. They need to act now both in increasing our supply of oil (more drilling & more production) AND in decreasing the demand for oil (quickly developing alternative fuels).
BUT the Democrats would rather keep education and energy as election-year issues rather than solving these problems. They say they are the Party of the people. Actually they are the Party of the federal government. They want the federal government to be the answer to everything. The Liberal wing of the Party despises the public sector. They despise the free market and capitalism.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I don’t think it would be a good idea for Scottie to come to my town for a book signing.
Posted by: killerbee | May 29, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
James: By the same token, conservatives (REAL ones, at least) shouldn’t support school vouchers any more than they should support welfare. We also shouldn’t support subsidies for oil companies or the production of ethanol, subsidies which automatically give a leg up to those industries over others. Such government intervention should be derided by people who claim to support a “free market.”
Conservatives need to stop trying to have it both ways. Handing out tax dollars to corporations–be they oil companies or private schools–is every bit as insidious as handing out tax dollars to ordinary citizens. Incidentally, determined Democrats could make the same “competition” argument you make regarding vouchers when it comes to their belief that welfare supposedly “levels the playing field.” Right?
And either way, it’s a transfer of wealth. Sadly, many of my fellow Republicans apparently have no problem with that idea–as long as the transfer is going to the folks they choose.
Posted by: gb8898 | May 29, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
I love hearing complaints about the responses from Drudge readers, like it’s some wacko fringe group. It’s only one of the most read news links on the web. It also happens to have a lot of clear thinking Conservatives among it’s readership. So many Liberals can’t handle clear, cool, logical thinking. ‘Bush lied, people died’ is their idea of a brilliant argument.
Posted by: Jeff | May 29, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
While the republicans controlled both the White House and congress for 6 years the awful San Fransisco liberals ran wild setting our policies by stealth. They lied about the reasons for war, the need of our spreading our brand of democracy and policy through the mid-east, and encouraging profits at the price of our strategic future.
Those evil and bad liberals have ruined this country, too bad this guy told his version of the truth. It may be bad for future profits.
Posted by: John Q Nelson | May 29, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
James, well said. While the US is blessed with a trillion plus of recoverable oil reserves (oil shale/sand, proven reserves untouchable in the Gulf, Alaska, Pacific and Atlantic) we are forced by a strong minority of enviormentalist, leftist, arrogant media types and hands out politicans to send our treasure overseas.
Intelligent leaders would realize that even if it cost $100 plus a barrel to get our oil out of the ground at least we would be keeping our money here. The dollar would have some strength and here’s a thought if the average cost (I’ll bet on it) for our oil is below $100p/barrel, I would be in favor of a $5 per barrel special tax DEDICATED to a fund for R&D to develop true and logical alternative energy sources. Also, instead of putting a windfall tax on oil companies (and remember 70% of the oil they use around the world is controlled by governments) how about we tell these giants that they need to reinvest x% of their porfits in the industry such as building new refineries (a strong President could sign an executive emergency order to override most of the roadblocks they currently face and use the National welfare as the reasoning). This is a win win idea but will we see it, unlikely, as not one of the Presidential candidates is making this a primary issue for the upcoming election. A true Statesman/Leader would realize that getting this message to the PEOPLE is a sure way to win in November, this would for sure override the power of the left press.
Posted by: Mr. Reality | May 29, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Scottie just knew that he would dramatically increase his net worth by trashing his former boss. Do you think anyone would have paid to hear him say nice things about Bush? Or that he would be on all the talk shows and get big speaking fees on the lecture circuit? Like most people who trash their former bosses in a book, this is all about money.
Posted by: Larry Steinberg | May 29, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
So he’s lying and selling out the people who gave him a chance, to sell a book.
Nothing new here.
Posted by: Mike | May 29, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
This is a classic example of selling out personal ethics for a big pay day. To me Scott must have been convinced that money is more important than personal credibility
Posted by: DB | May 29, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
gb8898, the school vouchers program doesn’t come from new money. This is money that the federal government is already giving to the public schools on a per student basis. All the vouchers do is give the parents a choice of whether they want to keep their child(ren) in a failing school or transfer the same amount of money that is already going to the failed school for their child(ren) and allow their child(ren) to attend a private school. If the tuition of the private school exceeds what the voucher provides, the parents must make up the difference. Now if you want to talk about completely ending federal goverment money going to schools (and eliminating the Department of Education), then I would go certainly along with that. But until THAT is the discussion, a true conservative should believe in applying the free market principles to our education system through school vouchers.
I totally agree with you regarding federal government handouts/subsidies. I would, personally, like to see all handouts/subsidies ended, including Welfare (that should be up to the states to provide; although I would prefer it being left to the private sector — i.e., charities, churches, etc.). Furthermore, if it were up to me, I would eliminate all tax breaks for individuals and corporations by eliminating the income tax and implementing the fair tax.
I don’t agree with your assessment on the “competition” argument that the Democrats “could make” when it comes to welfare. Welfare was never designed to “level the playing field.” It was designed to control the poor and to enslaven them to the master-federal government all in the guise of helping the poor.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Mr. Reality, I agree with much of what you wrote. But I, personally, am opposed to any special tax on any product (i.e. cigarettes, alcohol and oil) and mandating what companies do with their profits. The federal government should stay out of the private sector except where federal laws are being violated. When the federal government interferes with the free market it usually means higher prices.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
What a brave man Scott is when its time to sell books. Boy does Washington/New York bubble suck.
Posted by: Jon | May 29, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Uhm, yeah Bob Z. We invaded Mexico. That was the whole Alamo thing. We were fighting over land around Texas. We won and pushed the US border to the River. I believe in the war of 1812, we kinda crossed (invaded) some borders too. Just like Hillary, you spew incorrect facts to try to prove your point.
Posted by: ted Cory | May 29, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
A whole bunch of crap to make a whole pile of money. If he truly knew all this stuff, why did he not simply take it to Congress? Simple, he needed time to make up an exciting story line, it was not election time, and there would have been nothing in it for little Scotty.
Posted by: rck | May 29, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
“To me Scott must have been convinced that money is more important than personal credibility” Hell, he’s only following in the bush/repub system of ethics. Keep up the great work, Scottie!
Posted by: sylvester katt | May 29, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
What nonsense. McClellen was a spokesman: he gave the views he was told to give. So the point here is actually that the White House is still responding the same way, but attacking the person rather than refuting the content.
Posted by: Matt S | May 29, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Angellight, you wrote: “…to invade a country which has not invaded us, something never done before in American history… ” A few come to mind:
Tripoli (Libya) — First Barbary War (1801-1805)
Germany
Italy
Normandy
Korea
Vietnam
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
DB writes, “This is a classic example of selling out personal ethics for a big pay day. To me Scott must have been convinced that money is more important than personal credibility.”
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Do you folks even believe half the NONSENSE you actually write? (lol) I mean REALLY. So in order for this guy to HAVE “personal credibility” he has to CONTINUE to lie. (lol) How utterly PATHETIC is that?
I notice NO ONE is saying the allegations are FALSE. It’s all about WHY he didn’t come forward. It’s about his “personal credibility”.
Maybe Scott will provide book with Pop-Ups for the “red” states.
Posted by: Dems | May 29, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
If you don’t know the man personally then don’t refer to him as “Scottie” unless you’re hoping he’ll beem you up or somthing.
Posted by: jlshogren | May 31, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
The US is not the world’s police force? Read your US history, you’ll find the principle in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Constitution. It is the responsibility of liberty to foster liberty all over the world. Washington, Jefferson, etc. didn’t advocate America’s specific role in that, but only because we were a small, isolated, newly-formed nation. Over two centuries, we have become one of the world’s superpowers. If it’s not our responsibility to further liberty around the globe, whose is it? Lichtenstein? Botswana?
I’m not in the Bush fan club… I’m a moderate independent (pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, to name a few). But let’s review some of the things said BEFORE the war in Iraq, since some people seem to forget what was said when and by whom, preferring to believe that rat-bastard Bush lied every chance he got.
First, the president said, “We are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop [WMD]…” Later, he said “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s [WMD] program.” No, that wasn’t W. That was President Bill Clinton, on 2/4/98 and 2/17/98, respectively. A letter to President Bush from 12/05/01 stated, “Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs… In addition, Saddam continues to… develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” This letter was signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), among others. Even Carl Levin acknowledged, “…the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region.” (Sept. 19, 2002)
There’s so much more… snopes.com has these quotes, with full attribution showing that they are not taken out of context, here:
So there was plenty of reason to believe the war was inevitable, even necessary. How many times can we play chicken with a tyrant before we lose all credibility in the region? “We mean it, Saddam! Oh, okay… never mind. No, this time we’re really serious! What? Alright then, whatever you say…” Even if Saddam doesn’t cease to take us seriously, other countries will, and if the US loses its military credibility, we’re sunk. If we say we will defend America’s interests and her allies and then don’t, every nation that has played at testing the US before will do so with earnest. You think a two-front war is bad? What if we added Syria, Iran, and North Korea to the mix? Those countries are being kept in check precisely because they see that Bush says what he means and means what he says (poor diction notwithstanding).
And last, for those who persist in thinking that Clinton was the paragon of presidential virtue, remember a little thing called Kosovo? Clinton’s justification for military action was “the ‘moral imperative’ the United States has to prevent gross human rights abuses.” Don’t believe me? Look up the article in The Progressive, May 1999. Hmmm… what was it that someone on this board said about it not being our responsibility…?
So you think the Iraq War was a Bush-Cheney-Halliburton conspiracy that defied the will of the UN? How about the fact that “The [Kosovo] air war was launched with no UN authority and in contravention of the UN Charter.” See it in The Nation, June 28, 1999.
Well, so maybe we should have taken Saddam out, but then come home and left the hard work to someone else? Clinton tried that policy in Kosovo, too: “Even though no one will say it publicly, the U.S.-led war in Kosovo has been very much resented by the European governments, and to have Clinton saying ‘we bombed and now you rebuild’ is unpopular indeed,” says Martin Butcher of the British American Security Information Council.” Source: The Village Voice, June 30 – July 6 1999 issue. And it also goes against American history. What did we do to after we bombed Hiroshima? Did we leave the Japanese hanging out to dry? No, we helped rebuild Japan, as well as many European nations, because it was our moral obligation.
There are no easy answers. We want immediate results and don’t have patience to see something through. Pretty soon we convince ourselves not only that it’s not worth what we’re going through now, but that it was never worth it, and from there it’s a short leap to believe that the politicians lied just like they always do just to further their own agenda. If you disagree with policy, that’s fine and fair–as I’ve said, I definitely have different opinions than the president on many issues. But that doesn’t make Bush a villian, nor does it mean you’re a bad person if you have yet another view. We just DISAGREE.
Posted by: aee29445 | June 4, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Given the utter corrupt and Macheavellian nature of the Bush Republicans; why not view the current McClellen affair in its more radical (and logical)interpretation. It’s just another Rove set up.
1: nothing is presented that could go to a grand jury
2: Even though he was the one telling the lies the cautionary message is for the press to be more aggressive.
therefore
3: Since Obama will probably have the bitter harvest of the Bush legacy why not “loose the dogs of war” to ensure a 4 year presidency.
I can hear the talking heads on Fox now, “oh, we won’t make that mistake again.”
This toady (McC) is part of the Texas Mafia and has NEVER been known to be off message. Why would that change? It’s time to wake up and see that these fascists have organizational ability and long term goals.
Posted by: John Finnan | June 11, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm