By MichaelJames

May 25, 2008 2:25pm

Bill Clinton Has ‘Never Seen a Candidate Treated So Disrespectfully Just for Running’

ABC News’ Sarah Amos reports: Former President Bill Clinton in South Dakota today delivered a harsh critique of how his wife has been treated during her presidential bid, telling the crowd that he has "never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running," and that, "she will win the general election if you nominate her. They’re just trying to make sure you don’t."

Clinton spent more than six minutes calmly discussing what he called a "frantic effort to push her out" of this race, saying that no one asked Ted Kennedy, Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart to end their presidential campaigns early. 

Clinton also spoke against bullying superdelegates to make up their minds, saying, "I cant believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out. ‘Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.’"

Speaking to a crowd of about 200 in Fort Thompson, S.D., Clinton seemed slightly subdued during his 30-minute speech, which largely focused on the issues important to the Native American community.  As he wrapped up his remarks, a woman in the audience asked him a question about voting for Hillary Clinton. 

"If you vote for her and she does well in Montana and she does well in Puerto Rico, when this is over she will be ahead in the popular vote," Clinton said. "And they’re trying to get her to cry uncle before the Democratic Party has to decide what to do in Florida and Michigan because they are claiming that it only takes 2029 votes on the first ballot to win, and it takes a lot more than that if you put Florida and Michigan back in. Well, they will have to unless we want to lose the election. I mean, look, so there is that that is going on."

The former president was strong in his assertion that his wife has the best chance to win against Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, arguing that many electoral map predictions have his wife winning more electoral votes than Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., the Democratic frontrunner, in a general election.

"She is winning the general election today and he is not, according to all the evidence," Clinton said. "And I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running. Her only position was, "Look, if I lose I’ll be a good team player. We will all try to win but let’s let everybody vote and count every vote.’"

Clinton also strongly criticized the media, saying that ever since Iowa they have been against his wife, making him feel as though he was living in a "fun house."  As he concluded his thoughts on how this election has been handled, he again went back to the media’s choice of coverage. 

"If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about," Clinton said. "It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think?  Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the electoral college against Sen. McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station? You would know it wouldn’t you? It wouldn’t be a little secret. And there is another Electoral College poll that I saw yesterday had her over 300 electoral votes, yeah. She will win the general election is you nominate her. They’re just trying to make sure you don’t."

User Comments

This is ridiculous. Why are Bill and Hillary Clinton trying to delegitimate the process? Hillary is loosing today not because she is a woman, not because the media is biased, but because she has run a terrible campaign and has been a flawed candidate. There go the Clinton’s again trying to blame their own failures on everyone else.

Posted by: Dem | May 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

The Clintons are slowly going crazy in their bid for power I see.

Posted by: Chris | May 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

what?
i cant believe this, someone needs to put together a tape of how they ended up in this position…
while i do think that at times hte media was wrong for saying she was shrill, but how she is being treated now is a direct result of how she has PLAYED the game…
wow, i just cant believe they continue to play teh victim card…
why not embrace yourself as a champion instead of a victim..
just another wrong move in a long list of wrong moves from her campaign…

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Both of the Clinton’s are going to come out of this campaign damaged by their own words and deeds, yet somehow, it’s going to be my fault.

Posted by: J_Pryor00 | May 25, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Bill clinton, you are my modern day hero but Hilary is not you. Nobody is pushing Hilary out and stop trying to create sentiments as that only serve to fuel hate and plant seeds of discord in the party who you revere and which still hold you in high esteem. Hilary has every right to go till the convention but we are almost in june and the party is still fighting. Eight years of George Bush has crippled the economy and no one wants another term for another Mcbush. Constructively looking at the remaining process, there is really no way Hilary can upturn that delegate count. Infact the reason why many delegates have not weighed in is because of the respect they have for you. We need time to heal and that healing process has to start soon. Look at the comments on most blogs, if we dont start now we can start welcoming President Mccain on board.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

i guess i dont understand what you are saying will429

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Kerry go for it.
They want this so bad it hurts….When she first started she said,”Do NOT think of me as a woman” I am running for president.NOW the tide has turned and everyone is crying foul>>>Can’t talk out of both sides of your mouth,can’t change rules mid stream,can make promises that you can’t keep.
My God who do they think they are get to he– out ,yo have caused so many probles already.If she left when she was beaten none of this crap would be going around Billy.THe big thing is all your DIRTY deals ,you must owe so much that you need this position to re-pay tour debts…I hope they came after you ………AND you didn’t have to go until June to get your name on the ballot….Misspoke again.You knew in March it was youes.

Posted by: older person | May 25, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

well said vuzous
this is exactly right, super d;s are waiting out of respect to her candidacy and the voters to all get a chance to cast their votes

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

More rant I see. More lies. Nothing to loose Clintons.
I have never seen anything like it. The campaign is now talking about going through the summer into Aug. Oh well.
Obama08

Posted by: Thinking | May 25, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

At least they’re not calling her Sweetie. Hang in there Hillary!

Posted by: Ellie | May 25, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

irma,
the people are pushing for obama, that is hwy he is ahead… i dont get where you get this conspiracy that the DNC or whoever else you say is pushing obama..
why is it a conspiracy and not that hillary has just ran a bad campaign? why isnt it her fault…
she was highly favored to win this, she knew it, everyone knew it, and then she blew it because she thought it was in the bag…
she has no one to blame except herself

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Sorry if I mispelled, at least I didn’t say a lie. Of course they make fools of themselves. Every day I feel more and more strongly against the Clintons. Who do they believe they are? This is no a monarchy. One single family running the country? That’s so third world, and let me tell you: I know about that; I’m originally from a Latin country.
The other day I heard this horrible man, Bill Clinton, suggesting that maybe his daughter could run too. God forbids!!!! Their days are counted; they are on their way out for the good of this nation. Gob is blessing us!!!

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Why is Bill Clinton WHINING again?
It really is NOT becoming to an ex-president.

Posted by: Brandon | May 25, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Obama leads in the East, the West, and in the South, while the two are essentially tied in the central part of the country, including the Midwest and the Great Lakes region, the poll shows. He leads among all voters under age 65 ? including by huge percentages among those voters under age 30 – but trails McCain among those older voters by a 45% to 34% margin. Interestingly, Obama holds a 13-point edge among those voters age 50 to 64.
McCain and Democrat Hillary Clinton, who lags behind Obama in the race for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, are essentially tied in the latest Reuters/Zogby polling. Clinton won 41% support compared to 40% backing for McCain.
Clinton wins less support from her Democratic base than does Obama when paired against McCain ? 74% of Democrats said they would vote for her, while 8% would vote for McCain, 4% support Nader, and 13% of Dems were either undecided or favoring someone else. McCain wins 77% of the GOP base in this latest polling against Clinton, while she wins 8% of the Republican vote.

Posted by: tr | May 25, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

anne what?
you need to get your facts straight if MEN wanted her out, why would she have gotten this far…
please
and to talk about driving hwere you want wasting energy… you sound like a republican and someone who is antiearth
you must be a republican..

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

One title says he “blows up” and then this story says he was “subdued.” Which one is true?

Posted by: Tony | May 25, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

I was strongly for HRC until the race card was played by WJC in SC. After HRC’s comments on Friday about her staying in the race to see if something catastrophic happens to Obama, I’m over the edge.
The Clinton push to get themselves back into the WH, does not seem like wanting Democracy to play out. It’s all about getting power for themselves.

Posted by: TrueDem | May 25, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

RASMUSSEN IS STOPPING THEIR POLLS ON HER, SHE’S ONE

Posted by: RASMUSSEN | May 25, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Who is it this time! The media? The DNC? The far right? Bill, weren’t you the one who said that politics is a tough business and if you can’t take the heat, you shouldn’t be running for office? Quit complaining and buck up.

Posted by: LongT | May 25, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Come on people! Someone knew that if Florida and Michigan voted early the rules would be broken and what the outcome will be.
You hear Obama has changed his stand and now says the votes should be counted? Why? Because when the DNC meets on May 31st they’ll probably announce some slanted political deal to give him votes he didn’t really get.
Nothing is an accident here, and the sexism in this race is appauling!
Hillary should stay in until the end of the race, just like all candidates have always done. If she were a man no one would be calling for her to quit.
Be patient, let each candidate have their chance.

Posted by: Lyn | May 25, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

dem38
i repeat, i am a democrat and i will vote for the democratic nominee
i supported hillary at the beginning of this race but when she went negative i was completley turned off from her
i started to listen to obama and i really like him and his message, and i am going with his vision of hte future
i voted for him and will vote for him in hte GE
if hillary somehow was able to take the nomination, i wouldnt be happy and i would feel she stole it somehow, but i would indeed vote for her, or whomever the democratic nominee is

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

She has proven numerous times that just does not have the emotional stability to run this great country.
The Clintons are still trying to milk the maximum out of whatever is left from the goodwill from President Clinton associations as President and after that, as well as play the racial divisions in this country.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | May 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

It hard to believe Bill Clinton ruled the country with this kind of judgment for 8 years, clearly they didn’t make it I will advice them to accept defeat and work well for the party after this. I believe he wipe out his legacy badly after all this.

Posted by: Dave | May 25, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

jim-tx
Obama has the emotional intelligence of a piece of dry toast… wheat ofcourse because he is neither white nor black!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

dave
BO wont be nominated and you will accept it!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

kerry – Too bad Clinton can’t raise any hey? $20+ million in debt? LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: shows had bad of acampaigner she is | May 25, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

scott
I will never vote for Obama because hes not qualified he doesnt hold down jobs too long!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Will429 – That is not more information regarding those statistics, that’s a blog with a heavily moderated comment section that only allows pro-hillary comments and nowhere could I find detailed information behind those statistics. For all I know, they were made up by Bill.
This all is more wagging the dog. When you can’t win legitimately, go back on your word and argue for states who broke the rules to be counted when you agreed they shouldn’t, signed off that they shouldn’t, and didn’t care less until you felt you needed them to win.
If that doesn’t work, put together phoney statistics and try to convince everyone there is a vast right wing conspiracy against you(in the form of that idiot who keeps posting all over the net that republicans are voting for Obama, rather than the fact that their operation chaos was about voting for Hillary and answering Hillary in any polls they get questioned in). For good measure, claim a sexist conspiracy too.
In the end, who wants a victim as a leader? I’m not following someone who CONSTANTLY and NON-STOP whines about being a victim and can’t talk straight to save her life. She once mocked Obama over his comments about how difficult the primary process has been, laughing and making light of his comments implying that he doesn’t have what it takes to face the much more difficult process of the general election. I wonder if she or Bill have ever stopped to think about how they look to those of us who wonder that if she’s so whiney and victimized now, will she be able to survive what the republicans would do to her in the fall? Objectively speaking, Obama has gone easy on her and been a perfect gentlemen compared to what the republicans would do to her.

Posted by: Benjamin | May 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Don’t worry guys; the end is near. Every single day this family of liars are closer and closer to the exit door. America has done what is right: bury the clintons’ years once for all. The future looks brighter than ever before. Democracy is making its comeback. Did you see today’s Montana Poll?
Obama 52%, Clinton 35%
Look at this:
Obama is ahead Clinton among men by 58 percent to 33 percent, and among women by 48 percent to 36 percent, the poll showed.
Voters younger than age 50 favor Obama by 56 percent to 30 percent, while those 50 and older back Obama 49 percent to 39 percent.
Fantastic!!!! Bill has been “succesfully” campaigning in the state.

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, all the other democratic candidates DROPPED OUT IN EARLY APRIL 1992!! All the world can see that Bill and Hillary are pushing a pack of lies. They are both unstable personalities.

Posted by: Sallie | May 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

The Clintons’ arrogance appalls me. Hillary apparently thought is was her God given right to have the prsidency. Unfortunately history got in her way.

Posted by: John | May 25, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

look who is talking now….no one was more disrespectful in the campaign than bill and hillary, and their surrogates like james carville, and geraldine ferraro.

Posted by: sharman | May 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

All polls I see show that HRC is the stronger candidate in the GE. The only reason BHO is ahead today is because of the “bandwagon” effect. Everyone was pro – Hillary until they saw that BHO won Iowa and it was just so much more fun to manipulate all of you obamobots for the past six months…..wait, when the fun is over you will all be blamed for being so naive

Posted by: Chipo1965 | May 25, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

OK margi – that’s why all of her supers are moving to HIM
ROTFLMAO . not 1 has moved to her
June 3rd it’s OVER

Posted by: bye bye | May 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Look out how passionate Clinton and Obama’s supporters are when discussing their candidate’s issue. If we can turn this heat on the Republicans, I tell you they will have no hiding places.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

lyn
i respectuflly disagree with you that if hillary were a man peopel wouldnt be asking her to get out…
if she were a white male, she would be out…they would have conceded. This is a historic race and she has every right to stay in the race, but most people would have bowed out, or stopped running as if it were competitive.
her one argument is, the super d’s should take the nomination from obama, who is winning according to the rules, and give her the nomination because she feels she is better as a candidate…
i feel this is an issue of reverse sexism. i am all for her staying in, but she should change her tone, and so should bill.
let every vote count.. but to argue popular vote is the new deciding factor when a month ago it was super d;s
and before that was delegates
it just is hurtful to the party and they know exactly what they are doing

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

margi
oh but they do tear her down every day and leave Obama out of it so he doesnt have to say anythign the Obama people are the shameless thugs!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

One more thing… anyone with an once of intellect can see that BHO has been playing the race and gender card this whole time…. he is masterful, just not in a good way.

Posted by: Chipo1965 | May 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Quote of the Day
“I think a lot of the superdelegates will make a decision quite, announced quite rapidly, after the final primary on June 3… I have not yet announced publicly, but I think at that point it will be time for her to give it up.”
– Jimmy Carter, in an interview with Sky News.

Posted by: bye bye | May 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

bhrandon
she has the popular voter and havign it will allow her to continue fighting till the convention dont be dissapointed when she does!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

vuzous
if Obama would accept Hillary as VP that could happen but he wont because the inexperienced inept uninformed younger supporters will not accept it

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

This is unbelievable. The ignorance he and his wife place on Americans, that they don’t know really how all this is settled and that the Clinton version of “popular vote” doesn’t include any caucus states. I can’t wait till June 4.
As a result of how they have run her campaign, I am really regretting my support for him in the 90s.

Posted by: Renee | May 25, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

It depends on what poll/polls you look at as to who is winning. It is constantly changing. Why is everyone in a rush to get Hillary out? Many of
us believe that Hillary can turn this
country around far better than Mr. Obama. He’s played the race card, yet it goes ignored. He is not our “saviour” or our “messiah”. Let’s just wait and see….stranger things have happened in this world.

Posted by: deb | May 25, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Look how poorly the Clintons have treated America! They treat Americans like they were ignorant stupid people, who don’t know beans. The Clintons look down on the average Americans as a bunch of dumb sheep, theirs for the taking. They have no shame, no conscience–a lie is just great for them to put over on Americans.

Posted by: Sallie | May 25, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

President William Jefferson Clinton is absolutely right. If Senator Hillary Clinton were a man, NO ONE would be forcing her out of the nomination process. I am a man and I see the rampant sexism involved since Iowa and is disgusting. Now, Senator Barack Obama is actually telling the media that Hillary is “stirring up trouble” in Florida by her attempting to make sure that every Floridian’s vote is counted. “Stirring up trouble?!” Try taking Barack’s phoniness to task! This woman is a fighter. Tougher than any man I have ever seen run for President. She would make a GREAT President.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 25, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Woes the Clintons. They are so thirsty for power and have lost even their basic preliminary principle of logic and rational thinking. Hillary can win the general election while she cant win the primary: Hilarious, ludicrous! Where is the simple logic that we have learned in high school: Transitivity. Obama can beat Clinton, Clinton can beat McCain, therefore Obama CANNOT beat McCain. Is that rational. Peter is taller than Jack, Jack is taller than John an therefore John is taller than Peter? Fairy tale

Posted by: zago | May 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Bill and Hillary Clinton will come away from this primary with nothing left, they have lost all their political capital and will be the laughing stock of Washington.

Posted by: Sallie | May 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

I’m sick of media and OB try to push of the race. I’m going to vote GE OB if he is a nominee.

Posted by: stephanie | May 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

I’m amazed by the people posting they’d vote McCain if Hillary does not win; that type of post cannot be from a Democrat because Obama and Hillary have many of the same policies. Instead, there is an appearance of “republican talk radio” gamesmanship. Why are people afraid to really post their own opinions instead of post bites (derived from sound bites)?

Posted by: Independent | May 25, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

“All passes, all the time” should be
the Clinton motto. They can turn truth into a sausage machine, and every fault into a coronation. Breaking the party finances to please the loser by directing money away from the general election and into a never ending primary lessens the chances for a win in November. A loss in November is what Hillary wants and can no longer be disguised as anything else. These are self destructing people who are taking the tact that if they can’t win nobody else will. Why are they getting a pass for this suicide pact by the party leadership is baffling. Painful to watch super delegates throw away a shoe-in to prop up a clinically unstable pair of losers.

Posted by: Rita | May 25, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

It depends on what poll/polls you look at as to who is winning. It is constantly changing. Why is everyone in a rush to get Hillary out? Many of
us believe that Hillary can turn this
country around far better than Mr. Obama. He’s played the race card, yet it goes ignored. He is not our “saviour” or our “messiah”. Let’s just wait and see….stranger things have happened in this world.

Posted by: democratforlife | May 25, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

vonetta
thats what Wright and Sharpton etc suggest was goign to happen if he was elected… oh it is relevant we are not immeadiately goign to turn into Black Nation when and if he is lected… first of all he wont be… we will not asimilate black culture as mainstream thats just ludicrous… Michelle is the most militant of all… this will not be a return to the black panther 60s if you think so you have another thing coming!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

From all the comments from all the blogs that come across all these media channels, I have a feeling that one person somewhere above is correct – that by November Sen. Obama’s campaign will be smart enough to register enough voters who care about this country to win against the Republicans even without all the hate-mongering supporters of Sen. Clinton. I think Sen. Obama’s campaign should be in a position to acknowledge the above and move ahead to select a VP nominee with a head above the shoulder, and just ignore Sen. Clinton and her racist supporters, who represent a small minority

Posted by: James, Sugar Land | May 25, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

The Clintons are damaging their legacy. This is a very sad day for them and the Democratics. When a democratice rather vote for McCain – which means continuing the war in Iraq, high gas prices, higher food prices and monumental foreclosures – we have lost perspective. Obama is not a bigot anymore than Bill or Hillary. Please let’s keep rationale and remember the party must prevail. I do think that Obama offers a departure from the past, vision and hope for the future of the USA.

Posted by: Demo57 | May 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Doesn’t anyone find it the least bit strange that Obama wants to talk to the terrorist leaders, (to talk peace) YET, his own CHURCH lives and breaths hatred for the whites and this country and Israel, instead of preaching forgiveness and God’s message, and you don’t see the absurdity in this???? And you all still vote for him. Is anyone thinking?

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Having the most notorious liar of the democratic party as Obama VP will only make him look dishonest. Independents who really like him and heate Hillary will drop him like a granade. We don’t need Hillary polluting the ticket, and Bill opening his mouth to say stupid things that will only take Obama off message. I can see it: Obama explaining every single day everything that Bill and Hillary said on the campaing trail.
No, but no thank you!!!!

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

The line about ‘bullying superdelegates’ made me chuckle, given that it was Bill Clinton who came pretty close to bullying Bill Richardson for instance, and from all accounts he has been the one talking to superdelegates phoning them up so often.
I am begining to suspect that the only reason for the Clinton to drag this out for as long as possible is to rewrite history as much as possible. I think Hillary would be given a deal more respect if she stood up on June 3rd or even before and stood aside at let the healing start as soon as possible.

Posted by: markymark | May 25, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

How can she claim sexism, when it is SEXISM that has kept her in the race? If it were true sexism, she WOULD have been out a LONG TIME AGO because she would have a suffered massive loss of male support.
The Clinton’s are SOOOOOO transparent in their TWO-PRONG approach. She says one thing and he says the EXACT same thing only in a different location. This tactic is shameful and dull.
If they had put as much effort in their strategy as they are these false claims of this and that, she’d have secured the nomination by now!
As a woman I AM ashamed of Hillary. As a woman I AM ashamed that other women cannot see the hog-wash of her arguments. Instead of acknowledging she is a trail-blazer that lacked a good strategy, she is making the argument that she is some victim of sexism – when the reality is – when she is anything BUT a victim.
I sure this bull does not make it difficult for other young women. Shame on Hillary. Some feminist she turned out to be.

Posted by: Carol | May 25, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Just go an vote for the best woman!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 25, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

buyers remorse
those polls are favorable to obama and not legit!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

No one has been more disrespectful to Hillary Clinton than Bill Clinton with his very public philandering…years of it! It’s unfortunate that he can only rant at others. His own behavior far disgraces he and Hillary than any media coverage.

Posted by: Demo57 | May 25, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

New strategy: write in Hillary if we end up with the weaker candidate as our nominee. Don’t vote for McCain, just write in the better candidate.

Posted by: Eileen | May 25, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Wow! To those Hillary supporters who say they will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the candidate, I say time for a reality check.
The candidate with the most policy similarities…the candidate who IS a Democrat and a Christian is Barak Obama.
If you are willing to vote for McCain out of anger, or in a fit of jealous stupidity I have to wonder what kind of people Hillary has in her camp.
If we don’t act like grown ups and do our homework and vote for the better person, we will be stuck with this lousy economy and horrible bloody war, which I remember was entered into because of weapons of mass destruction that were a fantasy.
Are Americans so stupid that they have allowed the powerful corporate interests in this country to rape and plunder us?
Vote for the person who is closest to Hillary (not the opposite)
I’m a woman, and I say calm down and stop letting the opposite side divide and conquer.

Posted by: blue lady | May 25, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

carl29
HELLO!!!! he is dishonest that has been proven over and over!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

It’s about time and he is 100% correct in his claims. I will not vote for a candidate that the media chooses for me. Obama sounds like he cares more about the rest of the world, and what they think of us, than this country. He and his wife both sound like they hate this mean spirited country – the country where men and women rushed into two burning towers to save whoever they could. The same country that so generously gives to the rest of the world – during good and bad times. I want someone in office that loves this country as much as I do, and if I can’t vote for Hillary then I will vote for McCain!

Posted by: An American Voter | May 25, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Hillary, is a manipulator. I could see that certain look when she was lying about Bosnia. And when she was telling about the assassination about RFK. “Boy” she is good at it.

Posted by: mary | May 25, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Clintons, If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Posted by: charlie | May 25, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

And when I say “meam spirited country” in my previous post, I am quoting Michelle Obama.

Posted by: An American Voter | May 25, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

He beat her fair and square with the delegates even if you put in Michigan and Florida, and they just cant believe that America would want Obama over them. The popular vote really means nothing because Michigan, he wasnt on the ballot, and they dont count Iowa, Nevada, Washington,Wyoming, and Maine because they were caucuses. The Clintons are both crazy and never want to take responsibility for anything. If she didnt vote for the war, she would have won. Ge over oit. He might not win all the states she does, but she doesnt winn all of the states he does either. The polls I have seen show them both winning….Why are they causeing so much trouble…wha a bunch of sore losers!

Posted by: Dan | May 25, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Bill is absolutely right. Jake Tapper, Maureen Dowd, David Brooks, and the rest of you don’t get to decide who will be the nest Democratic nominee or the next president. The voters do, so continue with the elections. The pundits should shut up and stop interfering with the nominating process. Also, only since the Obama camp made a big deal about misconstruing the RFK remark (and then slyly retreated to leave the press to do their dirty work) have I decided that I won’t vote for any Democratic ticket which does not include Hillary. For your sake Barack, you better hope she is still willing to run with you.

Posted by: JETrout | May 25, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Bill really needs to keep his mouth shut. Every time he opens it, he makes it appear that Hillary is unable to take care of herself.

Posted by: cturple | May 25, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Hillary Clinton supporters are worse than little kids; Its a waste of time arguing with them when we all know who the true winner is. Obama supporters lets rise above these sickos.
They want to vote for McCain; let them do that. I think they were going to do that anyway.
I mean just look at their leader, her surrogates like (McAulliffe, and Wolfson and Ferraro)-real psycopaths .

Posted by: jean-marie pepdronne II | May 25, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Well Kerry,
Happily we all get one vote…and one vote only.
In your case that is damage control.
The media as far as I know has not accompanied any of us into the voting booth.
You are one of the lemmings if you vote McCain.

Posted by: blue lady | May 25, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

I’m proud of America.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Sen McCain-08

Posted by: tr | May 25, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Eileen wrote: “New strategy: write in Hillary if we end up with the weaker candidate as our nominee. Don’t vote for McCain, just write in the better candidate.”
Nahh, in some states the DNC has it rigged to go to their candidate anyway. Just safer for America to vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: rd | May 25, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Did you say, a crowd of 200??? Does that not say a little something?
Poor “Slick Willy,” is definitely losing it! I truly believe a bit of dementia has beset him.
So terribly sad, as adults…older adults…they have NOT mastered the art of being Truthful and possessing the ability to Accept their misdoings and errors. We as adults attempt to teach our young ones to respect and honor a sense of accountibility and honesty.
Somewhere down the line, The “Clinton Clan,” truly missed the boat.
I am embarrassed as a Democrat to see this callous, unprofessional,draconian behavior from this pair. And to think…they have allowed their daughter to witness this type of negativity.
Shame on the both of them! I have LOST all respect for the two!
A Concerned Senior Citizen

Posted by: hope | May 25, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Where has the rev. wright been lately it is like he feel off the face of he earth someone should check up on him I wonder how much he was paid to keep quiet, Let me make this perfectly clear if Obama wins the nomination it will be a sad sad day I can stand to look at that smirk anymore and his arrogance is way too much for me If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination than it will be McCain for me Obama needs to grow up this election is not all about the baby Obama and his self centeredness, I don’t like the fact that he can not be questioned or critized who does he think he is anyway that makes him look very bad

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

bill has lost it
um you are citing Obama friendly polls from obama friendly news outlets… you are shamefull!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

I support Hillary and I, too, will be voting McCain come November if Obama receives the nomination. I rather have someone in office who has experience and truly loves this country.

Posted by: Maryann | May 25, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Comments similar to that by Vonetta appear as a result of Sen. Clinton’s liberal use of radicalism in her campain. I am not black. I feel that all the talk about linking Sen. Obama to black churches and black culture are all created by the negative and racist campaign of the Clinton’s.
I am saddened that we are living in the 21st Century, and there are still people around this country who believe that blacks are un-touchable – similar to a notion that existed in medieval Europe, and that still exists in some parts of the world, that there are un-touchables in the society. I am amused that these haters still believed they belong to the human race.
Just the racially charged remarks by Sen. Clinton’s supporters are enough to dis-qualify Sen. Clinton from running for the US Presidency.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | May 25, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Bill has a point. The Gallup has Clinton leading McCain by 5% and Obama trailing McCain by 2%.
Not one headline on the poll. I found out by checking the website. Looked at another same deal.
This is truly rotten the way Hillary is being treated. No, I will not forget this by November.

Posted by: Youcan'tstandthetruth | May 25, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Senator Obama has not been caught bluntly lying like Senator Clinton. She and her husband lie and lie and lie in a pathological way. It is not just me, look at the polls and see how she fears and honesty and trustworthiness. The Clintons are pathological liars. It is not my opinion it is just the facts.
Now, about having her on the ticket. That’s out of the question. That will only be drag to senator Obama. This horrible woman embodies everything that is wrong with our politics; the very same thing that we want to get rid of.
Thank God the monarchy is dying. Thank God they could not reach the throne. Thank God the american people resisted. Thank God the american people did not forget what the clintons are all about. Thank God their end is near.
Regardless of whether Senator Obama or Senator McCain wins in November, something is for sure, it will neither be a Clinton nor a Bush. Viva la Democracia!!! Long life to the USA, the most democratic country on the face of the earth. Down with the Clintons!!
Down with the Bushes!!!

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

What the Clintons are proving day by day with every act and comment is a high level of arrogance, entitlement. They were hoping for a coronation, instead they got elections. They really believe they are royalty, and nobody should question what they say. Bill Clinton should think about how he put Hillary on the losing path in South Carolina, and it has just gotten worse since then.

Posted by: Kris | May 25, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Every time an Obama supporter of the Party establishment like Jimmy Carter asks Hillary Clinton to QUIT, she has increased her support among voters as the best candidate to win in November.
After Christopher Dodd suggested Hillary to quit on February 26 while endorsing Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton won Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island. Hillary has also won more votes than Obama since February 26th.
After Bill Richardson asked Hillary to drop out on Good Friday, Hillary Clinton has won more votes and primaries than Barack Obama.
After Patrick Lehy asked Hillary to drop out in March, Hillary has won more votes and primaries than Barack Obama.
After John Edwards asked Hillary to drop out on May 14th, Hillary Clinton has won more votes than Barack Obama.
The voters -NO the Party leaders establishments- had the chance to stop the race and they did not and their responses with record turn out should be a wake up call to the party leaders.
More than 17 million voters are supporting Hillary Clinton taking the fight for Michigan / Florida votes and the nomination to Denver.

Posted by: Angel | May 25, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

What about FOX excluding Ron Paul from the debate? All the media treating him like he doesn’t exist? The GOP bigwigs shuting down the Nevada state convention so it doesn’t elect all Ron Paul delegates?

Posted by: Kris | May 25, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Ugh.
The Clinton’s are so victimized. Yada. Yada. Yada.
It’s been the same script for the past 15 years.
He lies to a federal grand jury – he’s the victim. She botches a campaign she should’ve won – she’s the victim.
Their act has grown tired.

Posted by: Erik, Bowie MD | May 25, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

The “Clinton machine” is like that old pickup sitting in the left lane holding up traffic.
Stop all this CRYING and get out the way !!!
OBAMAS LEXUS IS COMING THROUGH !!!

Posted by: sonny | May 25, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Hey Bill, y’all screwed up. Deal with it and go home to next state you want to use as a laughing stock for your vain political ambitions.

Posted by: L McBrownley | May 25, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Never thought I’d be in this position, but I agree with Bill Clinton. The media has been blatantly biased against Hillary. She should stay in the race. She has the best chance against McCain. Obama is a deeply flawed candidate whose rise is due entirely to the brilliance of his campaign managers and support of the far-left libs of the DNC leadership.
Superdelegates-don’t be unfair!

Posted by: Juju | May 25, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

THE QUESTION NEITHER THE CLINTONS SOME SECTORS OF THE MEDIA HAVE YET TO ANSWER IS: Why do the Clintons so desperately want to return to the White House?” The Clintons are so desperate to remake the Bill Clinton legacy BEYOND THE POLLUTED DRAMA OF White Water and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Even on this, there is no guarantee that given the chance, they can—because Bill especially is still hard to control as a womanizer and scandal-prone personality. And the negatives of the Clintons remain so high! Still, they believe that if Obama should win the White House, he would eclipse them so spectacularly by his potential accomplishments that they would end up being a footnote in American Presidential history. They want to prevent this at all cost–and by any means! Furthermore, they have this sense of entitlement that they can’t accept that the so-called Clinton machine collapsed under the shrewd political successes of the Obama campaign. Bill Clinton speaks as if without the Clintons the Democratic Party will no longer exist: this is the extent of their arrogance–or delusion. They also believe that Hillary is the only one who can win the big states; but Bill fails to tell the rural voters he is trying to hoodwink that Texas was virtually a draw, that in fact Obama got about the same number of delegates there as Hillary Clinton; that right now Obama is doing better in California than Hillary; that polls are showing that Obama will beat McCain in Ohio, and more. We have not even begun to factor the possibilities of the Obama movement for change–such as bringing new states like Colorado and some Southern States into play for Democrats. Finally, they believe that they can blackmail Obama into accepting Hillary as a running mate to help him win the rural votes; but there are other people who can help him do just about that! Educated people are not fooled by the Clintons: they understand the Clintons and their motives quite well. They are overwhelmingly for Obama. The Clintons have succeeded in fooling the less educated, using base divisive tactics. The Clintons are playing the gender card, the race card, the media card–just whining–the very thing they once accused Obama of. Desperation, you might say! You cannot fool all the people, most of the people, or some of the people all the time! For sure, not this time!

Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 25, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

island girl!
i agree i really wanted hillary to be the first women president, which is why i supported her
and then she went all republican on us
and i say that because of her mud slinging dirty political tactics against her fellow democrat
the longer this has gone on, the more i have found myself just wondering what the heck is going on.
She changes her story and her victory or her means for winning every single primary
i wish she would take a higher road and stop this divisive talk and start projecting herself as a champion for women and talking about unity within the party
she can still compete, and if something happens to obama she would obviously be the next in line to take over..
why she continue to fight dirty like this is beyond me, and i really feel it just continue to hurt her

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I UNDERSTAND THE CLINTON AND YOU GUYS SHOULD ALSO THEY KNOW THE GAME IS OVER!!! BUT ALL THIS NOW IS TO PREPARE CHELSEA FOR A POLITICAL CAREER BECAUSE THE CLINTON WILL REMIND YOU 5 YEARS FROM NOW “DO U REMEMBER WHAT THEY DID TO HILLARY?” AND THEREFORE PEOPLE WILL BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR CHELSEA THIS IS JUST A GAME TO PREPARE CHELSEA FOR A POLITICAL BID IN THE FUTURE.BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS WHAT IS THE REASON FOR HAVING PRIMARIES? I GUESS TO ELECT THE NOMINEE RIGHT! THE NEXT QUESTION WILL BE BASE ON WHAT? DELEGATES COUNT? SUPERDELEGATES? POPULAR VOTE? OR ELECTABILITY? IF ELECTABILITY IS THE ANSWER PLEASE TELL ME HOW DO U DEFINE ELECTABILITY? THAT’S WHY I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE CLINTON FAMILY, MAYBE THEY JUST WONT CHELSEA TO GET MORE EXPERIENCE SO SHE WILL CLAIM IT IN THE FUTURE.

Posted by: john | May 25, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

if clinton supporters vote for mccain then they can’t complain when roe v wade is overturned or when we go to war with iraq or when we don’t get healthcare or when the rich and corporations get tax cuts and the poor get poorer!!

Posted by: william | May 25, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

What a pathetic soap opera this has turned into, with Billy Boy the lead cry baby. It’s one thing to embarass themselves, but these two have once again become both a cultural and political embarassment to the United States. With the focus on Hillary’s dreadful triangulation of the RFK assassination, Bill jumps in with his indignant husband act, attempting to divert attention from his wife’s uncommon lack of dignity. What an act.

Posted by: jggrimm | May 25, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

sonny
thats exactly it… someone of privaledge like obama that got everywhere he has gotten because of handouts will not ascend to the presidency… people are smarter than that and Obama is a fraud

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

If they don’t recognize one of the darkest days in American political history, I am frightened for this country.

Posted by: Texas Voter | May 25, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

kerry – Did they pay you by the run on sentence? How about by the grammatical error?
Moron.

Posted by: Texas Voter | May 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Excuse me was he NOT the one sho said this is a contact sport if you don’t like the hits get OUT OF THE ARENA??HUH??????????
???HUH???
Love how they make up their own rules …

Posted by: older person | May 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Be careful, the opinions expressed by a disbarred attorney or an impeached President may not be accurate.

Posted by: DrK | May 25, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Um, Bill, I think that the real story here is how you are showing an utter lack of respect for the peoples’ ability to pick a candidate, and for the media’s ability to see through campaign posturing. Next time, tell Hill to show a little humility and a lot more honesty, and she’ll be a shoo-in.

Posted by: Dave in Albuquerque | May 25, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

dem38..i will NEVER be silent as long as there are people like you around!! What nerve you have to tell me that Obama will not be elected. What are you afraid of? You CANNOT stop the inevitable. It is time for America to make a change. You speak out of fear of goodness. Fortunately, you are the minority in this great big equation. This is so much here that is bigger than us.

Posted by: mollygonz | May 25, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

mollygonz
Obama will not be elected it is an electoral impossibility and you cant change that… you will be the one left wondering what went wrogn in Nov… poor thing!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

There are so many inaccurate statements in Clinton’s remarks that one hardly knows where to begin. I will try to restrain myself.
Bill refers to recent polls as evidence that Hillary is more electable. The fact is that we don’t know who is more electable right now because there are simply too many variables, which will be cashed out in different ways in the months ahead. One thing is fairly certain, given the mixed and changing results in snapshot state and national polls, the Democrats would be foolish to select a candidate based on them.
Further, claims by the Clintons about a so-called national popular vote are bogus. There is no such thing as a national popular vote in the Democratic nominating process. Too many apples and oranges are involved. There are caucus and non-caucus states. (Caucus states have fewer “voters” who cast “ballots.”) There are states that have included independents and those that haven’t. Some have allowed party cross-overs and some have not. These election results can’t be combined into one figure, and especially not into a figure that will satisfy everyone. Bottom Line: if the Democrats back off from using the delegate count in nominating their candidate, and try to substitute a bogus national popular vote, they will be courting calamity.
See “Snapshot Polls and the Popular Vote” Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics”
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Mitchell in New York | May 25, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Just read the comments by Obama supporters here and at any other site. They are paid to denigrate Sen. Clinton and former President Clinton. I will never forgive the Democratic Party leadership for failing to stand up for the most successful democratic President since FDR. It is disgusting that some Democrats now talk like right wing gopers.
I’ve been a Democrat for 30 years and have never voted for a Republican — but, I will never vote for Obama. (Despite all the rumors that say I will in the end.) Sen. Obama has run the most vile and offensive campaign I have ever witnessed, and he is lousy on Democratic values.
If you really care about getting out of Iraq and keeping our nation safe you’ll vote for Sen. Clinton and urge super delegates in your state to do the same. We the people must make our choice absolutely clear — we want Sen. Clinton.
SD, MT and PR — we are counting on you. We need you to come out strong for Sen. Clinton. Please.

Posted by: seattlegonz | May 25, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

kerry..you are scary and sound like you are losing it..good luck with that.larry sinclair was debunked months ago. get over it and why hasn’t it made any national media coverage?? because only truly naive people like you believe it. this board is way too negative for me. there are some truly scary people on here.

Posted by: mollygonz | May 25, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Perhaps those who support Obama would have more credibility if they’d learn to spell and punctuate. In just the messages prior to this one, I found “loosing” for “losing”, “Clinton’s” for Clintons”, “cant” for “can’t”, “i” for “I”, “develved” for “delved”, “curtesy” for “courtesy”, “chose” for “chosen”, “its” for “it’s”, “site” for “cite”, “Chelsey” for “Chelsea”, “infact” for “in fact”, and even repeated uses of “Hilary” instead of “Hillary”, not to mention numerous examples of missing punctuation and capitalization.
KENTUCKIAN, THIS SOUNDS MORE LIKE THE KENTUCKY, TENNESEE AND WEST VIRGINIA VOTERS.

Posted by: roger in VA | May 25, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

CRY BABY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both of you ..

Posted by: h | May 25, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The real problem with Hillary and her alikes, Geraldine Ferraro look alikes, is Menopause. This is a big issue. This women go crazy in those years. Please give them hormones and Citracal. Jesus Christ!!! and she wants to put her finger on the “button.” God Forbids!!!

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

My hat is off to Bill Clinton! He’s done more for the country than any other politician in our modern history. I don’t know anyone could hold a candle to Bill Clinton in terms of service to this country and the world! He was one of our best presidents! He left office with 450 Billion surplus. What more proof do you want? Most others, Kerry, Kennedy,Carter, Obama; just jivers! Bill Clinton is absolutely right, the media, should be shameful! This is like a media in the some third world country. Each and ever media person is pro-Obama. Just like the Russian media is pro-Putin! But I think our media want the weaker candidate to win the Democratic race for a reason. For our media everything is going as planned; they wanted Mr. Obama because he’s going to lose to Sen. McCain in the general election. The latest CBS poll shows that. People like Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy have helped the Democratic Party ruin itself over the years, talking about failed policies! Meanwhile, our country is suffering, and falling among nations. Today, USA is 40th in infant mortality and 42st in life expectancy in the world. It was only Bill Clinton who was able to reverse our country from decline. No other President was able to do as much as Bill Clinton did for America since FDR. Bill Clinton did much in spite of constant hit jobs and media attacks! I think Sen. Hillary Clinton should seriously think about running independently in the fall. Saving our country from decline is far more important than Democratic Party unity!

Posted by: charleychaplin | May 25, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Those previous primary races may have continued this long because, unlike the chaos of this year, all of the primaries weren’t front loaded. The California primary used to be in June, which could make it or break it for a close race.
That is not the case anymore. There are NO miracle primaries left for Clinton, and there is now way to gain the majority of delegates.
She can stay in the race as long as she wants, just stop crying foul while doing so.

Posted by: Allison in VT | May 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

I wish ABC would just blow.
At the end of this election it is the media who’ll be the true losers.
Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Clinton for standing up to Obama’s media machine with one of your own.
We shall overcome.
Go, Hillary, all the way to the White House.
–Kent

Posted by: Max Grader | May 25, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

kerry
that tie breaker in Indiana you speak of,
first off, NC and Indiana were primaries where obama was having the single worst few weeks of his campaign.
Hillary and her crew were pounding him for his bitter comment (which if we can deduce what she meant by her assassination comment, im pretty sure we can deduce what he actually meant by that bitter comment) and saying he was unelectable and it was going to show because she was going to WIN BIG in Indiana and come close in NC.
even terry mccaulif (sorry not sure how he spells his name) was toting this as Indiana’s polls were closing…
but it turns out for all the bashing she was doing and all her claims, she barely won in Indiana, and lost badly in NC…
her win in Indiana can also be attributed to rush Limbaugh’s operation chaos…
now i personally wont give that slug any credit, i also cant believe that someone would throw away their vote for spite, or chaos
if they do, then they are spitting directly in the faces of the people who have died and fought for the rights of this nation and are truly antiamerican

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

“I’m amazed by the people posting they’d vote McCain if Hillary does not win; that type of post cannot be from a Democrat because Obama and Hillary have many of the same policies. Instead, there is an appearance of “republican talk radio” gamesmanship. Why are people afraid to really post their own opinions instead of post bites (derived from sound bites)?”
Posted by: Independent | May 25, 2008 3:17:48 PM
It’s not Obama’s policies that turn us off. It’s our conviction that he has none, and that his policies are promises only. It’s his character that turns us off. He is not responsible for Rev. Wright’s awful sermons but he IS responsible for listening to him for 20 years, for calling him a spiritual adviser. And he is responsible for the racial animosity in his first book against whites. We don’t believe that has gone away. And we don’t want him as our President. Give us Hillary or give us McCain.

Posted by: Charlie35 | May 25, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

The Clinton’s created more jobs than any other President during Bill’s presidency.
Bill Clinton was the first President in 30 years to balance the budget.
Bill and Hillary Clinton also brought peace to the Middle East during Bill’s presidency.

Posted by: Sam Morris | May 25, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko’s successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.
The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Obama is doing what is good for the party, for the voters, because as he has said from the start, this election is about the VOTERS. Hillary and Bill seems to have FORGOTTEN that any of this is about the the voters, this campaign has completely become ALL about the Clintons and their egos.
How is that Hillary is able to say that she wants all the votes to count, AND in the same breathe she is saying that the votes in the caucus states should not count. (Of course Obama won most of the caucus states)
So the blatant hypocrisy is Hillary is trying to get the votes in Florida, and Michigan counted in her favor (knowing full well that she, along with the 8 other candidates (16 months ago) signed an agreement stating that the votes in Florida, and Michigan would not count). On top of this dishonesty, Hillary now wants to add the insult of claiming that all the votes that were cast in ALL the caucas states should be thrown out. (There goes Hillary’s whole argument that she wants EVERY vote to count)
WE ARE GUARANTEED TO SEE THIS TYPE OF MANIPULATION, AND DISHONESTY IF HILLARY IS PRESIDENT. SHE HAS ALREADY SHOWN SHE HAS NO RESPECT FOR RULES, OR CONTRACTS.
WATCHING HILLARY LIE, AND CHANGE THE RULES WHENEVER SHE FEELS LIKE IT, SHOW THAT SHE IS MANIPULATIVE, AND DECEPTIVE, AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED!

Posted by: palgirllll6 | May 25, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

its time
the damage has been done by Obama and that weasle axelrod!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

One word to my favorite ex-president. If we only run the primaries based on polls! It would be a pandemonium. But we don’t. As you can yourself remember ( rules haven’t changed at all since you became president in 1992 and 1996), the nomination is decided by counting the delegate numbers not by using schizophrenic polls that predict the future. Obama has the majority of the delegate on his side, and the ordinary americans have given him the edge by opening their pockets. Mr. president, in all fairness, your wife is more 20millions in the hole because she hasn’t convinced the ordinary americans that she is the better candidate. No amount of wishful thinking and pleading will change that at this junction of the game. The question begging an answer is ‘why should America believe she is a better GE candidate, when has not proven (except in the minds of some) to be a better primary candidate in her own party. Your arguments Mr. Prez, are not very convincing.

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | May 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

kerry,
Put your money where your month is, go to Hillary.com and show your support. She’s run a failed campaign strategy, mismanaged her finances and she wants to run this country. I need a candidate ready on day one, not one trying to pay off a debt.

Posted by: Martin | May 25, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

The Clintons are such a bounch of loosers.

Posted by: Ridiculous | May 25, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Sarah-Wi, Obama is doing the right thing now. Engaging the Republicans in their traditional strong-holds which is Security and he is not doing badly, infact he is gaining support and with the inclusion of negotiating but with clear-cut agenda, he may end up winning the debate on Security. face it, are we really safe with all the tough talk of the Republicans? If you think so, try travelling outside the country and identify yourself as an American.By the time the debate on security is over and healthcare, economy, education and other issues comes in Mcbush will be finished. Cant you see his attack on Mccain on the issue of veterans made Mccain go nasty and personal and showed the anger of Mccain everyone has always known. Mccain now sounded stupid,insinuating Obama has no morality to attack his views on Veterans because he never served by enlisting in the army as if millions of people that are blogging on this site are not patriotic because they never enlisted in the war. That means even Bill Clinton or Hilary cannot comment on that issue, not to talk of the good ole bush himself. I tell you Mccain will be toast.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The bad thing is that the Clintons think that everything starts over after the race is over because this is politics. The hard-core that Hillary has supporting her don’t realize that. They listen and hate. With Clinton’s inability to admit that they blew the race the hard-core then blame Obama for stealing the nomination. This is going to push a lot of votes away from Obama. Hopefully people will not fall for this and look at the positions that McCain has. They are not what we need.

Posted by: Carol | May 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Obama is the one that has divided the Democratic Party.
The Democrats should have won the White House in a cake walk this year.
However, Obama decided to grab for it all way too soon.
Why? Because Obama didn’t want to wait his turn.
Within weeks of entering the U.S. Senate, Rookie U.S. Senator Obama started planning his run for the U.S. presidency, when he should have served at least one term in the U.S. Senate before running.
When McCain wins the General Election, blame Obama’s selfish ambition and his “So what if I don’t have enough experience” campaign for turning the Democratic nomination race upside down.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

By the time this primary is over, the Clintons, once the most powerful politicians in Washington, will be among the toxic politicians in Washington. They are already hated by the Republicans, and have now alienated members of their own Party as well, not to mention some factions of the core of the Democratic constituency. Our historians are not as blind as some of Senator and President Clinton’s supporters are, and they will not see the events of this historical election, or of its devastation to the Clinton legacy, through the jaded lens of women who want a woman for president, or older white women who want the nineties back, or even racists who will never vote for a black man. They will see it for what it is, and they will see the Clintons for who they are, and when they put it in historical context, it will not be a pretty picture.

Posted by: Toxic | May 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Let it all out Bill, it is good therapy

Posted by: Thinking | May 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Why doesn’t Chelsea look like Hillary or Bill?

Posted by: Jack | May 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Bill, You’re so silly. Hillary isn’t winning in the polls. Well, maybe in the ‘Clinton Fantasy Research Polls.’

Posted by: superdelegate | May 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Bill and Hillary have frequently said the reason she will fail to get the nomination is that the media is against her and sexism blocks her path. If that’s true then it wouldn’t be any different in the general election so we would expect her to lose then too. So by her own analysis she is the weaker candidate.

Posted by: monica | May 25, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

I can’t wait to see Chris Mathews and Keith Olbermann give commentary on the convention. The both of them should be paid by the Obama campaign for their reporting. This is going to the convention.

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

This desperate scrambling to change the rules, change the math, say whatever you can to make the other candidate look unelectable bothers me. I can’t help but wonder if the Clinton’s got alot of quid pro quo money. Maybe they are worried about the Columbians coming after them if Hillary isn’t elected and can’t consummate the deal?

Posted by: hmmmm | May 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

LOL!! Would love to see the hate mongering racists faces after BO is nominated and WINS the presidency. Yep and it will be a black man – The first shall be last and the last shall be first………

Posted by: TexasBlackTea | May 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Poor Memory..thank you so much for clearing things up. Looks like you pressed a button. Someone is upset!

Posted by: mollygonz | May 25, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

I agree with My forever President Clinton 100%.
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA, I will see this MOVEON+OBAMA machine lost this fall!

Posted by: very_mad | May 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I want to know who funneled money into Hillary’s campaign through Bill Clinton’s “partnership earnings” (11 million dollar ‘loan’ to her campaign). This is a lot of money even for them. If she goes to the convention, there is no way that she can legally recoup more than $250,000 of their (or someone’s) 11 million dollars. Earnings of 110 million over eight years, deduct taxes, expenses, millions in old legal fees, purchase of two homes, and this should bring their net worth down to a point where 11 million dollars makes a difference. They appear to be desparate to win at any cost. Are they being blackmailed? Is she a trojan horse? Who is behind the Library and Foundation funds and is there a bright light on this? ..Just some crazy thoughts on one crazy acting campaign.

Posted by: $$$$ | May 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

GO HILLARY – KEEP FIGHTING!!!
Looks like the obama group is out – again. Just look at the posts here – guess that is the Obama type. Hillary supporters are much kinder – and vote for the best person to lead our country – not just follow the hype.

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

The Clintons have been amateur in the art of subliminal persuasion. First,
they wanted to tell the world that Barack is surrounded by racists elements and that was when they raised the issue that he is not vetted. Now, in her
desperation as time is running out, Hill is hanging on the hope that something
bad could happen to Barack so she could become the nominee. This was when she
slipped up with her bragging that the working hard white Americans are
consistently supporting her and were not bitter. She have been shamelessly
blatant in pandering to white working class with her whiskey shot and
subliminally soliciting the physical elimination of Barack with the RFK
assassination in June to justify her continued campaign. The DNC and Barack
delegates must come out that she won’t be the nominee under any circumstances.

Posted by: wilson | May 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

keep it up,if you think barry can win in novemebr go for it,a large number of us that have supported hillary will not vote for him and putting her in as vp DOES NOT CHANGE A THING,first we are americans so electing someone to potus who has associated with either meembers of the cpusa or other antiamerican organizations since he was in high school is a deal breaker,then you throw in the combine connection from chicago and it really is a no go.if this is not enough for you throw in all the personal name calling by the obama supporters and by his outright lies that the msm have failed to call him on,any questions.

Posted by: don tufts | May 25, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

usmarine
you are right… though Im not sure I would vote for Mcain in the GE I put the Mcain sticker I got in the mail…(that I didnt send for) on my car! as for the obama lettter I got… I sent the return envelope back with a note saying never ever would I vote for him!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Obama is an earth-disturber.
The Democratic Party’s chances of winning the White House may be in ruins, but Obama has the satisfaction of knowing that he is better off for disrupting what should have been an easy Democratic win of the White House.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

It’s true what he say’s. Do you think a black man with the name of Barack Hussein Obama can win in a general election. Black’s make up 12.1% of the population. The power brokers and some of the Republicans want the war to go on.They do not want Hillary to win,they have been behind Obama all along.

Posted by: Tomjoad1776 | May 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

No matter how bad things get when the chips are down the one thing you can count on for the Clintons is thaty will LIE their way out of anything.
Bill Clinton needs to go be a husband to his wife she his having a meltdown. I’m starting to wonder if this fool is the one pushing this thing.
Get a Grip please you’ve been in the White House for 8 years its OVER you are not going back unless Chelsea takes you back when you are much older so accept it and MOVE ON.
The people on your ship are defecting that should tell you something

Posted by: ann | May 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Kerry,
Just because people don’t like the Clintons do not mean they are for Obama.
Don’t be ignorant. I know that is hard to do as a Clinton supporter.

Posted by: jack | May 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

The Republicans are having field days watching Democrats killing each other and McCain is competing with Dem candidates side by side, may even have a chance to win the 2008 election. The Republican party ran this country so bad that most population in this country was supposedly not wanting to vote them any more. But thanks to Hillary for beating Obama to death desparatedly grabbing any chance for nomination. The Democrats are uneducated, blind, poor pile of loose sand. Keep it up, McCain will win 2008.

Posted by: RoseMcLean | May 25, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

fivepin – you are a phoney Obama plant. Don’t you think we are wise to you guys you have nothing better to do than write these half-a__sed posts. “I was goinna vote for her until 5 minutes ago” What a bunch of baloney. Bill is exactly right and you know it. if you don’t then you are part of the whole thing. Today on Meet the Press, Bob Schieffer was so obnoxiously against Hilary it was disgusting. I got rid of cable just so I don’t have to listen to Russert, et al. It’s a fact that if, say, Condoleeza ran for president nobody, I mean NOBODY would be able to call her a bitch, a pimp, place her picture alongside that of Tonya harding, have Condoleeza nutcrackers, etc. etc. It’s true and you know it. I am thoroughly ashamed of my country for the way it has skewed this election coverage. if Hilary were the wrong candidate, then fine, but the media conspiracy is way over the top. Of course we all know it’s because of the intense dislike of BILL Clinton by the media that has funneled down to his wife. can you imagine? The first husband and wife presidents in history? I will never vote for Obama, democrat or not.

Posted by: druggstohr | May 25, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

I hate to have to vote for McCain but I will before I vote for Obama. His stance on meeting our enemies without preconditions in downright scary. Check out history and what happened when JKF did the same thing with Russia, it was called the “Bay of Pigs” and almost started a nuclear war here in our own country. Read about it and how history has shown how foolish it is to meet your enemies without conditions.
Obama is simply too inexperienced and that makes him dangerous.
I also don’t care for his Chicago Political background, everyone knows how shady Chicago politics is, you can buy any of them. Check out the funding Obama got for Rezko thru a state grant and how most of the money went into Rezko’s pocket.
Change you can believe in alright! Not the kind I want!

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Right on Bill. And, how can anyone vote for Free Ride Barry? We Hillary Democrats have only one goal and that is to elect Hillary as the first Woman President of the United States of Ameerica. During this Memorial Day, Hillary truly represents the patriotism this great Nation is known for.

Posted by: benvictor | May 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

What next is Hillary going to cry? Hillary Clinton keeps coming up with these ridiculous arguments. Her latest is that she has the popular vote behind her! The Clinton’s were the ones who advocated going against the popular vote by their emphasis on the supper-delegates! Rather than deal With their cognitive dissonance between their liberal values and their desire to win they instead are using the Freudian defense mechanisms of reaction formation and projection! They are using the Joseph Gobbels technique of the “Big Lie”. Keep repeating they have the popular vote and people will start to believe this!
http://middle-class-populist.com/2008/05/24/say-good-night-hillary-h1-b-clinton/

Posted by: Brian J Dawson | May 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

President Clinton, I’m afraid it’s time for you to stop. A lot of people who used to respect you don’t even take you seriously any more. You’ve offered so many fallacious arguments and ill-founded opinions that all you do by continuing this is to further damage your own credibility, if that’s still possible. Go home. There’s nothing to be done that will improve your situation.

Posted by: time to stop | May 25, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Sorry to burst your bubble Bill, but if you add in the Edwards votes Obama can get more than half, in any scenerio….watch this.
Obama has 1658.5
there are 86 for the next 3 contests.
1/2 of 86 = 43.
1653.5+43 = 1696.5
Pick a scenerio.
1/2 of Florida & Michigan….1706 to get majority (1 more than half) of pledge delegates
As the vote is today, Obama gets 34 in Florida.
1695.5+34 = 1729.5…more than half.
All of Florida and Michigan
Majority = 1786 (pledged)
1695.5 + 68 (Florida) = 1753.5
Edwards (Florida) = (approx) 20
1753.5 + 20 = 1793.5
And there are still 7 more Edwards votes to go.
Maybe I made a mistake here somewhere, but, I would still tend to disagree with BIll….as always.
And, yes, after the blunder Hillary made yesterday, it doesn’t matter. Its really over.

Posted by: lllover | May 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

These blogs are going to have circuit overload caused by unhappy Obamabots after Hillary wins the nomination. Can you imagine the hate we’ll see then.
Sweet Lord have mercy.

Posted by: Max Grader | May 25, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Brent,
I need to talk to my mother about where she is hiding all the money. This is urgent! I must go and find the tramp – oh hell naw.
Mama has been hiding the freaking hush money. Dang!

Posted by: jack | May 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Sandra,
So to punish Obama, you’d vote for McCain and punish the rest of US?
Get a clue!
HRC and JMc are the flip-side of the same coin, the OLD WORLD ORDER – the ones who want to keep all of US poor and them rich.
Study your history before opening your ill-informed opinionated mouth. If Hillary Clinton is a representative of the Feminine gender so is John McCain.
Clinton will do everything she can to stop Obama from winning, even harm the Democratic party. That is EGO in action, that is the act of the ruling party trying to stay in power. THAT is the only reason that SHE is running.
Lincoln was young too, and hated by many, but he did what was right in order to heal our country.
The GOP suggested that it’s members vote for HRC at any open primary, the GOP is afraid of Obama, not HRC!
Get pass your EGO and go back to school, learn your history and civics, then you can voice an educated opinion instead of the rubbish you are slinging.
I am Female and a Republican!

Posted by: Diana | May 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Obama runs as well or better than Hillary against a number of states and is ahead of her in varying margins in all the national polls. The popular vote argument isn’t how a nominee is picked as delegates select the nominee. She also doesn’t count the vote in caucus states in her compilations and counts both Florida and Michigan to be ahead, when Obama was not even on the ballot there and many people did not vote because of that fact. Obama also picked up an extra pledged delegate in Alaska (he now has 10 to 3) rather than the 9 to 4 at the earlier caucuses just as he did last week in Nevada where he now has a 14 to 11 lead among pledged delegates. The more interesting election might be between Mr. and Mrs Clinton for either president of the Liars Club or Whiners CLub. It would be a close one.

Posted by: bhciapol | May 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

The Clintons have no respect for anyone—voters, the Democratic party, the African American voters that supported thenm so strongly for so long. I now have ZERO respect for the Clintons. I don’t care if Bill campaigns for Obama. In fact, I’d prefer if this LIAR and his LYING wife just retire from politics. Bill and/or Hillary campaigning their hearts out for someone else…WHAT A JOKE. They certainly didn’t campaign their hearts out for John Kerry or Al Gore. (To be fair, I don’t think Al Gore wanted them to.)

Posted by: can't wait for June 3rd | May 25, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Obama is connected to many shady characters. Is anyone dumb enough to think that Obama who’s Pastor Rev Wright was like an uncle and his spiritual advisor and who attended his sermons for 20 years and listened to his hate filled message, did not have the same beliefs. We know what Obama says he believes but we do not know what he actually believes.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Oh yeah, Bill Clinton did a whole lot for this country. I wouln’t say it was a whole lot a good for the American worker. Nafta, great idea, let us trade freely with countries that have absolutely no idea what worker’s rights happen to be. Then, go ahead and sign out the glass steagall act that FDR imposed and let the lenders stick it to the American credit consumer. All those people losing their homes, you have one man to thank for that and his name is Bill Clinton. Keep working for the Clintons, the perfect American corpocrat family. What do you think this healthcare plan Hillary has is all about. Making more money for the heads of these insurance companies that continually deny coverage. For crying out loud, my mom is a veteran, a federal civilian employee on a military base, and guess what she can’t seem to get approved by those lovely insurance companies to get a simple MRI. ….Please keep fooling yourself that those corpocrats are actually democrats. Last I checked democrats look out for the working men and women in this country, they don’t set them up to bend them over.

Posted by: barlow97 | May 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

This is Bill Clinton’s attempt at trying to get sympathy for HRC. First the clinton’s wanted to change the rules, that didn’t work, then they started negative attacks, that didn’t work, then bill clinton said “i can’t believe they are picking on a girl” that didn’t work, then they said “white people won’t vote for Obama” however oregon proved them wrong, then they said “the caucases didn’t count, funny how they counted when bill ran for president, then they said she wasn’t winning because of sexism, that almost worked becasue people felt sorry for her and she got the “pity” vote, now they are saying “she is being pushed out of the race”, well i can guarantee that if senator obama was in the same position as she is in he would have been forced out a long, long, long, long time age. They would have insisted that he drop out, and everyone knows it’s true. I am sick of bill and hillary both they are power hungry and they will stop at nothing, they can’t accept the fact that she muffed up her campaign, if she had played her cards right she would have done better than she has, and now she is on her way out. I also don’t believe she made a mistake in refernecing RFK, she is a snake in the grass just waiting. Even her campaign people constantly say “anything can happen” why don’t they truly unify the party instead of just giving lip service to party unity. They both need psycological help. I would not trust her to be vice president to anyone. If she were the vp, then the president would need a professional food taster 24/7. Go away already you are embarrassing yourself and your legacy

Posted by: Cindy | May 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Dem38, If hilary wins, i tell you I will be all for it. Infact I want hilary on that ticket. Didn’t think it will be a good idea initially but she will bring her strong points into the campaign. forget her baggage, mcbush has worse. Mcbush is nasty, easily irrtated and angry, also has a pastor problem not to mention the Keating five. Talk of an ad with the caption the face of a war-monger and then we see the face of Mcbush.Obama too now has his own baggage but all are guilty by association issues. The only snag is Rezko.I tell I will go for an Obama-Clinton ticket now. That will be unbeatable but so many women and young voters would not want that to come to fruition.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Hello Bill,
Hillary receives no respect? That is too bad for her. Let me guess … is it her ill-fated personality? or using gender WHEN she wants it ? or her strong mind of Entitlement (becoming P or VP)?
Bill I think you pretty know your wife’s nature. So what is your complaint ?

Posted by: Samantha | May 25, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

It’s just a matter of time before the media finally honestly reports on Obama’s corrupt dealings. All will be exposed and everyone who bought into this fantasy about Obama being our saviour will be crying about it…..and then those of us who didn’t buy into the Obama cult will be thrilled to say “I told you so.”!! That will be a glorious day!!

Posted by: Trish | May 25, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I really have to take issue with how the Clintons are counting the popular vote. They handily erase caucus states like my own. They give Obama zero votes in Michigan. And they want to count all the votes? Liars.

Posted by: Ellen | May 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

someone wrote: “The endorsement by US Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-California) of Obama today sends an extremely firm message to the Clinton campaign, and not only because he was, until today, a Clinton superdelegate.”
Yes, I agree, the SD’s are under pressure to switch their support to Obama, and they will. Hillary will be in nomination on first ballot in August, and if they want to vote for Obama that’s fine.
17 million Hillary voters won’t be voting for Obama in November.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: rd | May 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

He is telling it like it is Obama and gang are use to strong arming people the media has been in the tank for Obama because I think the minute she leaves this race you all will see how much they really want Mac. Wright did Obama in with the white vote and it was stupid for him to have the black panther thing and the church info for all to see on his home page it was the last thing I was thinking about when I went to his site and the church site and Obama has called for her to get out since NH with the help of the media I have never seen any thing like this and it is the buzz in many places there has not been any postive media on her do you think 17, million people are not real we will lose in Nov. and there will be no democratic party coming together.She made mistakes but he was just as stupid keeping the company he keeps.IMO

Posted by: Bishop | May 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

I could care less if you vote for McCain – hell, I earn a middle-class wage. I can survive under a Republican.
Do what you have to do.

Posted by: jack | May 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Bill is pretty confused. The two of them seem to think that if they just say it loud enough and long enough that anything they say will be true. For months now, their whole pitch has been to keep the super delegates from supporting Obama. Just hold off a little longer. . . and then again . . . and then again. They aren’t able to gain support, so their thrust has been to keep Obama from gaining support. Anyone who has read the blogs in the past two weeks knows that anger is hardening day by day on both sides. In the past two weeks, it has gotten significantly worse. Enough. Time to begin the work of bringing the party together.

Posted by: karela | May 25, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

keep it up,if you think barry can win in novemebr go for it,a large number of us that have supported hillary will not vote for him and putting her in as vp DOES NOT CHANGE A THING,first we are americans so electing someone to potus who has associated with either meembers of the cpusa or other antiamerican organizations since he was in high school is a deal breaker,then you throw in the combine connection from chicago and it really is a no go.if this is not enough for you throw in all the personal name calling by the obama supporters and by his outright lies that the msm have failed to call him on,any questions.

Posted by: don tufts | May 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Bill, you want so much to be back in the Oval Room seat, but Hillary won’t be there for you. She’ll be out doing her thing. Why don’t you just let this work itself out without your mouth?

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 25, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Hill-Billy has demostrate time and time again their wizardry to overpower right from wrong. Never in modern time has we seen two sore losers who would go to extreme to worp Americans to satisfy ther desires. Hilly lied about under fire landing in Bosia, she cried for votes, attempted to create racial division and just over all, her and the once good man Bill has stooped to their lowest level because the majority of American has responded not in their favor. Go home Hill, go home billy. Both of you have self-destucted and ruin your legacies.

Posted by: quincy | May 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

It’s true what Bill Clinton is saying: That we as the public and the media are trying to pressure them to concede before all the votes are in and all the primaries are over. It’s a tight race–she should have the right to run until it’s really over. What is so “power hungry” about that? Who of you can say that it’s wrong for her to stay until all the votes are in? That’s like discounting all the people left to vote–saying their votes don’t count and it’s “already decided”.
I personally like both Hillary and Obama and would be pleased with either candidate. Let’s wait until all the votes and superdelegates are in please before declaring a winner. Besides, if what he’s saying is true–we have to think about the general election and who will really beat McCain

Posted by: m | May 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

I’m so sick of the media and their obvious bias!
I really hope that Hillary doesn’t take a VP spot if she loses, that way I will have absolutely NO regrets for voting for McCain!
HILLARY (OR MCCAIN) 08!

Posted by: Eric, California | May 25, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Anarchyjack, I got news for you; that is, millions of Americans still remember the booming national economy that we had during Bill Clinton’s two terms of office, and how Bill Clinton ended the recession that gripped our nation when he first took office.
I also remember how Bill Clinton help end the Asian Financial Crisis of 1997 and 1998, which caused the New York Stock Exchange to suspend trading for the first time in its history.
The Asian Financial Crisis was started by Billionaire Obama Financial Backer George Soros, who engaged in rogue currency speculation.
Soros also backs Move-On.com and other radical left wing causes, and he is also known as the Man who broke the Bank of England through his financial manipulation of the currency markets.
Soros backs Obama, because he plans to make more billions under an Obama presidency.
Bill Clinton ended the Asian Financial Crisis by ordering the U.S. Treasury to join the International Monetary Fund in a rescue plan for Southeast Asian currencies, since it was causing a global financial melt-down.
Bill Clinton help end the global financial crisis, and money poured in from Southeast Asia into the U.S. financial markets and from across the world, because the U.S. markets were perceived as being more stable under Bill Clinton’s strong presidency.
This flood of foreign money into the U.S. Market during Bill Clinton’s presidency triggered a booming national economy.
You can claim that the national economy wasn’t that great during Bill Clinton’s presidency if you want to.
However, millions of Americans already know that you are lying.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Right on, Bill Clinton, she’s said let’s wait for the votes, let’s put our best argument to the super’s and we’ll both back the eventual nominee. The hate that is expressed toward her will not help him win in November, if he’s going to win in November he has to win the nomination first, not win by forcing out his opponent. Whoever is behind this incredible sign of disrespect for her, he’ll be personally blamed. I blame him, he sets the tone for his campaign and he’s been mocking her from early on, just a wife, her marriage experience, she can’t be trusted, she’d do anything to win, he won those who hate her long ago, now he’s just losing those who don’t hate her and are sick of the tone of his campaign.
I’m not in a hurry to say told you so in November, I’d prefer everyone to back off and wait to find out who wins the nomination.

Posted by: anna shane | May 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Oops! Bubba’s off the leash again. They both seem intent on having their melt downs in public.
1) Who’s the they that are demanding she get out of the race? The two of them are the only ones I hear talking about it. Senator Obama keeps saying that she has every right to stay in.
2) As for treating a candidate disrespectfully, Bubba’s done a pretty good job of that on Senator Obama.
3) I see polls discussed every other night on the news. The results vary from state to state and night to night. She is not “winning the general election.” Even if she were, it’s May not November.
4) Gov. Patterson was right. This campaign is running on desperation.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | May 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

those whose hate obama and vote for mccain because of hillary please have some sense i’m tired of bush and be for real do you thinl mccain is not going to be like bush he is worst then george bush and please if he does get elected please do not complain about this country is heading to. i bet your we will be worst off then george bush. mccain doesn’t even know about how to get us out of recession and gas and food is sky rocking.i’m tired of the republican. mccain flip flop so many time and believe obama is planning to tell everybody about mccain criminal past.

Posted by: michelle | May 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

With her disingenuous Daily News statement Hillary Clinton makes things worse. It makes you really wonder how she is wired. I really find something abnormal in her reaction.
But…..
I have faith in the fairness of the American people and that they will see through these lame attempts to justify her ghoulish statement by seemingly blaming those who in her view misunderstood her, failing to apologize AGAIN to anyone. She is pathologically incapable of admitting a mistake or giving a straight answer. She is just wired that way. As Bob Schieffer noted this morning on Face the Nation, her explanation via Daily News again fails to recognize on her part she did anything wrong. I watched her entire appearance before the editorial board of the S.Dakota newspaper, no just the clipping where she invokes RFK and the A word. It is evident she has no intention of quitting and that she has convinced herself that she must stay in the race because YOU NEVER KNOW….something could happen that could land her the nomination.
This is what blind ambition at any cost and a delusional personality look like. What a pathetic spectacle this downfall of the Clintons is becoming!

Posted by: andrew | May 25, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

poor memory
you have to prove you are not paid and you cant do it.. it has been documented I could find you on a list somewhere! just because Obama thinks hes smart but is an insufferable moron doesnt mean you have to be the same way!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

1) The fact that she hasn’t withdrawn now that OBAMA has a MAJORITY of pledged delegates is an indication that she wants the presidency for her own personal gain. She is NOT listening to the people.
2) Have we forgotten about the ‘Vast right-wing conspiracy’ that’s out to get the Clinton’s?

Posted by: David | May 25, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

anarchy
I dont want to but will vote for him if I have to!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Wow, that contradicts every poll I have seen recently.
They look like they are grasping at any untruth to keep their head above water.
Either he is lying or just plain stupid.

Posted by: Anna | May 25, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Bill is right on one thing, media bias! I think the general public agrees that the media is bias toward McCain and Clinton and kiss, kiss, kiss KISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS the rear end of Obama.

Posted by: LCI | May 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

kerry
they are just scared… and they should be who said the talk should be limited to eliminating just the candidate himself!

Posted by: dem38 | May 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

People: The bottom line is this: McCain graduated at the bottom of his class. I’ve heard over and over again that people will vote for him just because he was a POW. While that makes him a war hero, he isn’t qualified to lead the nation.
Obama and Clinton are both scholars and extremely intelligent. They have good track records and both have an inclusionary view of the world–unlike McCain who wants to cut off Russia and China from the UN, to isolate these potential allies in the war on terror and to help our economy. He is extremely conservative too. He wants to keep us in Iraq indefinately.

Posted by: m | May 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Bill would know. No candidate or POTUS has ever treated women and staff as disrespectfully and this ogre. Remember 43 people that worked on his campaign, donated to his campaign, or was part of his personal police escort, died in a 4 month period before or after his election. THAT IS A FACT

Posted by: Mohair Sam | May 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

KEITH OLBERMANN told the truth! He only tells things the way they are and I just watched that video…WOW he’s absolutely right! How can you all still support her? She’s run a horrible campaign.

Posted by: Laura Herold | May 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Neither Clinton nor Obama has nearly enough experience to even be considered for the Presidency. They are both media “flavors of the day”, chosen for special treatment because they were, oh wow, a “woman” and a “black”, look how “progressive” we are said the left wingnuts of the media. The real, experienced, truly good candidates of the Dem party were ignored by the media and never had a chance.
We’re voting for PRESIDENT, not American Idol. The media has gone nuts with their stupidity. We need to have a real Dem candidate facing McCain, who is a real, experienced, nuanced candidate for the Reps, so we can make a real choice.

Posted by: Doc Savage | May 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

So…Hillary gets less respect.
*Is it because of the insinuations that Obama wins only because he’s black?
*Is it because she insinuates that education is bad?
*Is it because she cries sexism?–I don’t hear Condy Rice saying that…nor did Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Elizabeth Dole, Albright, etc, etc.
Bill–if politics are rough and we should expect bumps and bruises–why are you whining?
*Hillary said it’s tough to be in the White House–if she thinks this is bad…what about when she has to deal with international leaders?
The reality is Americans are tired of Bushes and Clintons. Thank goodness she’ll shortly be in the dustbin of history because with all this extra stuff, Obama won’t put her in the cabinet let alone the VP.

Posted by: jim | May 25, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

To All: “PSYCHE!”.. the Kennedy/June Assassination gaffe was designed in order to gain a particular outcome, which is: more attention focused to her (poor Hillary, that is) by saying something crazy in order to draw more press coverage… The Clintons are very tactical and diabolical if need be. She had to due something for more press as she was fading to black.

Posted by: james in charlotte | May 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

The big question to me is will Terry McAuliffe become Secretary of State or will he go back to selling used Yugos?

Posted by: ericmiami | May 25, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Kerry,
It is not strange that Obama wants to talk to other world leaders. Look what we would have saved in lives and money if someone had talked with Saddam.
Saddam asked Bush to meet with him in an interview. He also agreed to allow the U.N. inspectors to reenter to search for the nonexistant WMD’s.
Did any of you know Kuwait was a part of Iraq until it was stolen from them?
We must respect our World Leaders whether they be friend or foe. This is the test of a real man and a real president.

Posted by: C. Jenkins | May 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

AS USUAL –THE CRYBABY CLINTONS ARE AT IT AGAIN—ACTING LIKE THEY ARE SO ABUSED AND THE WORLD OWES THEM A FAVOR–GOD WHAT A DISGRACE TO AMERICAN POLITICS THESE TWO MORONS ARE !!!!1

Posted by: Dan A | May 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

President Clinton, please stop. It is becoming ever more difficult to read your comments; they sound ever more desperate. Please let your wife run — your time is over…and so, perhaps is your wife’s. She has an extremely valuable role to play in the Senate…and we need her there. It is time for her to step away and do her part to ensure that we have a Democrat in the White House in January 2009.

Posted by: nomoredynasties | May 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

If you ask me, Obama is getting desperate. He’s desperate to shove Hillary out of the nomination process before a decision is made on Florida and Michigan, before Puerto Rico votes and June 3, and before the superdelegates have made up their minds. He knows this is very close which is why he’s trying to push her out in any way possible.

Posted by: Henry | May 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

The media personal attacks on Hillary are unbelievable. Obama is a politician and not a good one, but the media have made a a big story out of him for thier own gain.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 25, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

If Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, millions of Hillary supporters will either stay home on Election Day or vote for Republican Moderate John McCain.
Although Obama supporters claim that McCain is the same as Bush, most Americans already know that McCain is a maverick Republican, who angered Bush by working with Democrats to pass legislation that Bush and his conservative supporters opposed.
If I have to choose between Far Left-Wing Obama and Republican Moderate John McCain, I will join other Mainstream Democrats and vote for McCain.
Why? Because McCain is much closer to the center than Obama.
If the super delegates don’t want to see of millions of Democrats to vote for a Republican candidate, like they did when the Democratic Party nominated George McGovern, Walter Mondale, and Michael Dukakis, it should vote to save the Democratic Party from another presidential defeat and vote to make Hillary the Democratic presidential nominee.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

someone wrote: “Clinton Running Out of Money”
hello, this is the last week of primaries, she doesn’t need any more money.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: rd | May 25, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Wow. I’ve never seen two people so delusional in my life. The Clintons just make this stuff up as they go along. It just doesn’t even make sense. The majority of what they say is to mislead those who don’t follow politics closely enough to know the truth. I’m starting to remember why Bush was elected in 2000. Seriously Bill, go see your therapist. Have the Clintons ever admitted to a mistake? Hillary started out with a quarter of a billion dollars and now she’s had to lend her own campaign twenty million. That is true financial mismanagement. I would hate to see what she would do to the economy if she ran it the same way she has run her campaign.

Posted by: Dagny | May 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

The RIGHT one
You said it RIGHT.
I grew up in a country run by one of the great women leaders of our time, and now have lived 30+ years of my adult life in the USA. I started out as an ardent and excited supporter of Sen. Clinton, and was REALLY FEELING TO BE PROUD OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE with the thinking that finally we would elect a woman President, and show the world that our country has finally grew to the POLITICAL level of Margaret Thatcher’s Great Britain, Golda Myer’s Israel, Indira Gandi’s India (and now Sonia Gandhi – a foreign born Catholic in a nation of 80% Hindu population), Benazir Butto’s Pakistan and Bandara Naike’s Sri Lanka, just to mention a few. But soon I realized that Sen. Clinton does not come not even close to the stature of these great women leaders. To my little mind Sen. Clinton proved to be just an average female, who just happened to be at the right place at the right time, and that she also proved not worthy of being mentioned among the Presidents of this great country.
I am still feeling PROUD OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE because we may elect a black man as our next President.

Posted by: Jim, Texas | May 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

The Time for Change Is Now! Obama For President!

Posted by: Demo Rules | May 25, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Some recent polls:
Survey USA: Ohio—-Obama 48/McCain 39
Virginia—-Obama 49/McCain 42
California—-Obama 49/McCain 41
Pennsylvania—-Obama 48/McCain 40
Reuters/Zogby–General election:
Obama 48/McCain 40
Newsweek–National general election pref:
Obama 50/Clnton 42
Gallup 5/24 Obama 52/Clinton 44
Rasmussen–New Hampshire/ 5/23:
Obama 48/McCain 39

Posted by: karela | May 25, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

I’ve just finished reading all these comments. The hate speech is coming from Hillary supporters. Is this what your candidate stands for? Is this what she wants? Your hate is dripping like rancid poison, ugly and immature and unreasoning.
Shame on you!
Posted by: ShameonYou | May 25, 2008 5:09:38 PM
——————————–
Thank you for proving my point. Replacing the name Obama with Mrs. Clinton’s shows your extreme lack of self-respect. I’ll borrow Mr. Obama’s words now… ‘Typical’ Obamabot.
GO HILLARY!!!

Posted by: A. L.L. | May 25, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

when ever Bill Clinton speaks negatively about the media, the media screams tha tClinton ‘blew up’

Posted by: trettine | May 25, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I would like to remind all the Clinton and McCain backers about the promise to drop the federal fuel tax, well look at the price of gas since they made that promise and all of you fell for their lies SHAME ON YOU Hillary and McCain!!!!

Posted by: jg5012 | May 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Bill Clinton is 100% right.
He, being the Smartest of the lot, knows, Obama will NEVER win in November.
Bill Clinton is trying his best not tolose this election to the Republicans.
Only people as smart as Bill Clinton get it.

Posted by: Jkan | May 25, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

The Obama campaign has used character assassination as a strategy – so much for “new” politics.” Hillary HAS been treated badly by the media and Obama supporters. It’s been vicious to watch. No way I would ever line up behind him.

Posted by: Lin | May 25, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Nobody reads anyone else’s posts, but I (in vain) am posting anyway.
If the media were against Hillary in the primaries, and were the cause of her election problems… then how will that change during the general election? It won’t. This argument is moot.
As for the Clinton supporters who will still vote Democratic in the fall regardless who wins the party nomination – I SAY PRESS ON, AND I HOPE YOUR CANDIDATE, SENATOR CLINTON, DOES WELL (I support Obama, because I think he’s the better Democrat, and I think the Republicans are wrong on too many issues to vote them back into power).
But for you Clinton supporters who will not vote for Obama, or will vote for McCain instead… and cite “real” issues like “McCain is a war hero”, “Obama needs to wait his turn”, or “No Hussein, vote for McCain”, or “blacks voted heavily for him”, or (my favorite) “his father is a Muslim and his sister is a budhist”…
Re-register. As. Republicans. Now. ANd have fun paying $6.00 by end of the year with no congresional action. And you older voters kiss your Social Security away. And you Pro-Choice voters… welcome to the end of Roe V. Wade when McCain starts appointing judges.
Yeah, but at least McCain is not black.

Posted by: This Board is Stupid | May 25, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama is sick, he lies about new politics and unity only to stick the knife in Hillary, you sir should drop form the race before you destroy the democratic party completely!!!! And I QUOTE:
“The Obama campaign did put out a statement almost immediately condemning the remarks,” Mr. Wolfson said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “It was unfortunate and unnecessary, and in my opinion, inflammatory, for the Obama campaign to attack Senator Clinton on Friday for these remarks, without obviously knowing the full facts or context.”
In addition, the Obama campaign sent the entire political press corps the transcript of a searing commentary about Mrs. Clinton by Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.
Your new politics is just old politics with hypocrisy, absolutely gross!!!! Unity?? you wouldnt know what that is unless it hit you in the face at 100mph!!

Posted by: Jr | May 25, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

By the way, on wedge issues. Why did Barry Obama change his name to BARACK? Then of course there’s Wright’s church. Racist flip card at every turn….You gotta wonder about the plan?

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Obama will lose. Hillary would be a great President. Democrats are going to deserve this loss if they nominate him. It’s not that she’s a woman, it’s that she’s smarter, stronger, more knowledgeable. Obama is a weak candidate and whiney little spoiled boy. We don’t need another one of those in the White House!!

Posted by: kerry | May 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Bill, Bill, Bill. Tsk, tsk. Dude, you need to go have your medication adjusted, because you have become just as delusional as your wife. Hillary has been treated with the utmost respect. When the press got tought on her, after she was caught telling lies after lie, she attaced them and got a six week loong cake walk, during which time, she fed them negative and spurious information about Sen. Obama and they ran it over multiple news cycles to appease her.
No one has asked your wife to exit early. They only started asking her to exit when it became apparent that she could no longer catch Obama without a brokered convention and splintering the party. And, consider this: she’s been running for president for almost two full years now. So, at what point does it cease being too early?
Look, Bill, I voted for you twice. I think you were the most effective president this county has had since FDR. You’re slippery, but effective. But your wife, while smart, is very different from you. Where you could sit down with poeple and pursuade them, Hillary only makes them mad. Many high ranking and experienced members of your own party knew from the start that Hillary had an uphill battle to fight simply because she is so divisive and hard headed. She would not make a good president.
Hillary lost not because of disrespect or mysogyny as your stratgists now have the both of you whining about. She lost because she was a poor candidate, who could not manage her campaign or her money. She made numerous stategic blunders nad surrounded herself with incompetent campaign managers, to which she gave reign. This is known a bad management and we don’t want for a president a candididate who makes so many blunders.
You are both in your 60s and it is time to GROW UP. You lost. Do so graciously and be Democrats instead of egoists.

Posted by: Reality in America | May 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

This is just more proof of Flim Flam Clinton at work. He’s playing a shell game and he’s inviting us to play along. Let’s hope we understand the odds.

Posted by: marinemom07 | May 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I like to think of this way,
for all you supposed “democrats” who threaten to vote for McCain should Obama be the nominee, you just can’t find it in your racist, stereotypical, judgemental supposed “American” self to vote for the most qualified and honest candidate with true change just cause he’s black.
Fact: He will get the nomination and you all will be upset because “the nomination was stolen from Clinton”.
nothing was stolen, we voted for change, we want change and he is IT.
doesn’t matter if you stay home vote mccain , so long as 61% of this country is behind him, he will WIN. you can either get aboard the change train or be left behind.

Posted by: Monica | May 25, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Bill has become a big joke. Hillary has run an awful campaign. If the media has treated her badly it’s because she’s managed her campaign badly. The Clintons have done their duty for this country. It’s so disheartening to see Bill and Hillary ruin any goodwill that they have with so many voters.

Posted by: Enrique | May 25, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

bill clinton is right: if you give obama the nomination maccain will win the presidency
if you give the nomination to hillary she will win the presidency
so your hating on hillary is going to give you maccain
which would be poetic justice except for the fact that everyone is going to be affected by that result

Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | May 25, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

P.S. KERRY honey, you sound delusional. Can’t wait to see what you’ll be saying June 3rd.

Posted by: monica | May 25, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

According to every poll, Hillary has the highest unfavorable rating than any candidate.
Even her supporters agree that she’s persistently attacked Obama unfairly in this election. She even campaigned for Mccain at the expense of her democratic colleague, senator Obama.
Why won’t every right thinking person detest her – including the press? She gave herself a bad name and is now blaming the press. Is she not insane?

Posted by: CommonSense | May 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Guys the point is not letting the monarchy get in the White House. For the first time in the life of many of us, the last name Clinton or Bush is not going to be on the ballot. Isn’t nice? That sounds like democracy to me.
Since 1980 a Bush or a Clinton is on the presidential ticket in this nation. My God. This is not going to be the case this year. Down with the Bushes!!!
Down with the Clintons!!!

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Bill wants all of us to be faithful to his wife. If he had done likewise, I might be more sympathetic, and feel his pain…

Posted by: Jim Campbell | May 25, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

HOW TRUE!!! Obama and Axelrod are ARROGANT, they both LIE!!! How DARE they take Clinton’s innocent comments about RFK and LIE – Twist it into a “Story” and give it the the press!
Now they both claim “oh it’s ok – Move on” – Hillary did NOT even mention obama’s name! She was saying that her husband and RFK ran thru June. Dirty Politics will NOT be tolerated and the Hillary supportes will NEVER come together. This is the candidate to UNITE us all – think NOT! STOP bullying and pushing Hillary out!
IF Obama STEALS the nomination – MILLIONS of Hillary supporters will never VOTE for obama – so what really has he won – only the nomination – NEVER the white house!
KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY MILLIONS VOTE FOR YOU!

Posted by: Molly | May 25, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Bishop, excellent question; it’s because they are the same ones that sold Bush to the general public. Have you seen how giddy Campbell Brown is on CNN now that she gets to push McCAin. Just watch as the most ardent supporters for Obama on CNN and MSNBC reveal who their true candidate is. I’ve witnessed this since the ’80s and it’s weird how long it takes people to catch on to propaganda.

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Anarchyjack, you are only fooling yourself with your anti-Hillary rhetoric.
Your name already shows that you like anarchy, which is why you want the Democratic Party to be ruined by Obama’s radical presidential candidancy.
If Obama becomes president, you want America to be ruined by an Obama presidency.
Either way, you will promote anarchy, which is why you have no credibility about what is best for America and the Democratic Party.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Hillary is a Republican Implant, thats why they want her to Win! Did ya forget, just a few months ago Hillary praised McCain on National T.V.

Posted by: Demo Rules | May 25, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I support Obama because he is exciting and brings so much hope to the table, We need change in America.
Just look at how nasty Hillary can really be, This is not what I want in a President.
Obama 08′

Posted by: Lupe | May 25, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Benjain wrote: “There’s a reason why the pundits on the right tried to get republicans to vote for Hillary, because they know damned good and well Hillary didn’t stand a chance in the GE.”
“The Republicans” (being Rush Limbaugh) simply exhorted Republicans to vote for Hillary to extend the primary. However, exit polls showed that Republicans mostly voted for Obama.
Now, you can argue that they are inspired by him, and while I’m laughing about it, they see Obama as a wet dream for a complete 527 demolishing.
Obama doesn’t have a chance with real voters, those who actually care about Obama’s entire history of Marxist and Muslim corruption associations and a complete lack of any record to judge him on whatsoever.
I say skip the middle man and put Axelrod up fo president and Wright as VP. Oh wait, Axelrod doesn’t read a speech as well as Obama. Oh hell, let’s put a real speechmaker up for president, GD America Wright.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: rd | May 25, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Thank You Bill Clinton – FINALLY someone steps UP to defend Hillary against the media and obama group – ALL LIES!!!! Where is the DNC to defend their candidate – only defend obama???
The Hillary supporters will NEVER unite – obama is a WEAK LIER with a questionable background!
IF he gets the nomination – it will take the MILLIONS of Hillary VOTES to be elected – and that will NEVER happen – think obama has made sure of that!

Posted by: Abby | May 25, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

President Barack Obama. 2008 and 2012.
Extremely proud to be a part of this history making moment.
Yes we CAN!

Posted by: Mary | May 25, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Commonsense; You are not!

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Bill’s legacy in the White House was scandal. His legacy was handing both houses of Congress and the WH over to the Republicans. Despite this, he went on to achieve some measure of stature in the years since he left the presidency. And in just a few short months, he blew it. Wag your finger, turn red and purple, blow your dog whistle, blah, blah, blah…

Posted by: Jackie | May 25, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Hillary Clinton has morphed from a simple wound, that democratic party left to heal on its own, to a “gangrene infected limb” that has to be amputated before it contaminates the rest of the host and kills it. Enough is enough! SUPER DELEGATES GROW SOME “PRINCIPLES” & DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE!

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

someone brought up the rasmussen situation in which they refuse to post Hillary’s numbers. They stopped a long time ago. Ahhh! The freedom to choose is not allowed even among rasmussen; they just can’t stand freedom of choice.

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Everything Bill Clinton said is true!!! I have never seen a candidate treated so shabbily and that’s a fact. Particularly, by the media!

Posted by: Two-cats | May 25, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

WestCoastMessenger; Hi, I am glad to see you are still posting!

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Irma, Hilary does not have a complete middle-income roots though her grand-parents were. Thats why she is always mentioning her grand-parents as a true middle-class story.Bill is everything you said and thats why he still has a lot of support. He is a true American story but I still believe that we should all throw in our support for Obama. He represents the next true American dream and anything will be better than a third George Bush in Mcbush.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

When Obama tripped for any reason, Hillary was out there ready to pile on with the rest of the media and point out how many “questions” it “raises.” When Hillary tripped, though Obama’s fans would get outraged, he would not. If it counts for anything that he has been very restrained in his tweaks on her mistakes, she hasn’t got a leg to stand on. Quit crying, Hillary. The women of America deserve better for a role model in how to survive a tight spot.

Posted by: Andre | May 25, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Kentuckian,
Could it mean that Hillary is not the only one that can claim to have the support of the non-college educated, and spelling-challenged Americans. Besides, if Hillary with all her intellectual superiority can mis-speak, any supporter (Obama’s or Hillary’s) is entitled to mis-spell. Don’t you think?

Posted by: Harerta Tesfa | May 25, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Looks like T————–
can’t take the truth about his beloved Clintons.

Posted by: jg5012 | May 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

No body is bigger than a party. Not Bill nor Hillary.

Posted by: IndependentLeaningDem | May 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

molly
better check which candidate is using dirty politics

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Bill is right and I’m glad he said something. But, blowing up? What a crock.
Another example of trying to make the Clintons look bad. Shame on the media.
When Barack is unable to win the GE, his supporters will blame Hillary, so she may as well run independent. The DNC has completely turned its back on her, anyway.
Hillary 2008!

Posted by: another typical white person | May 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Bill would never lie, So this garbage about Hillary must be true!

Posted by: UndercoverAngel | May 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Since “it’s over – I won” Get out Hillary -for the good of the party – I win – what are we even talking about???
Seems like the more obama is the bully the more MILLIONS VOTE for CLINTON!
If you want the nomination – JUST WIN!
But – you cannot do it! So now you resort to LIES and dirty politics in your desperation. OBama is NOT qualified – that is the reason – and the only reason – NOT race, gender – or spite – he is NOT qualified to be President of the USA! He is a WEAK candidate with a very questionable background.
KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY – ALL THE WAY!

Posted by: Molly | May 25, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Quinnipiac Has Obama Behind McCain in PA, OH
… but Clinton leads in those states.
5/22/08
Here is how the matchups would go:
Hillary Clinton – 310
John McCain – 211
Barack Obama – 248
John McCain – 290
These are the polls updated today. Keep your eye on the Florida and Ohio polls here.
State #EV Barack Obama John McCain
California 55 54.0 37.0
Florida 27 41.0 45.0
Pennsylvania 21 46.0 40.0
Ohio 20 40.0 44.0
Virginia 13 49.0 42.0
State #EV Hillary Clinton John McCain
California 55 51.0 39.0
Florida 27 48.0 41.0
Pennsylvania 21 50.0 37.0
Ohio 20 48.0 41.0
Permalink.
crazy, spoiled me using facts….

Posted by: irma | May 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Keep Fighting Hillary!
The obama group here is a DISGRACE to their candidate!
The obama campaign has screamed for months – DO NOT let the supers STEAL the nomination away from us – Sharpton has even considered riots IF the supers went with the “will of the people” and for Clinton. NOW Seems that is exactly what they EXPECT and want to happen. But – it’s OK – we’ll all just “fall in line” come together – and vote for their guy. THINK NOT!!!!
Hillary or McCain NEVER OBAMA

Posted by: Molly | May 25, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

President Clinton is so right! Senator Clinton has been treated shabbily by the msm – but guess what? She is still standing – she is still the best candidate – and she will win the GE in November! Let’s see Chris Matthews get a tingle up his leg over that!! Get over yourselves Obama supporters!

Posted by: susiewat | May 25, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Disparaged, it is Obama and his left-wing supporters that has caused the Democratic Party to split apart.
Obama started planning his race for the White House within weeks of entering the U.S. Senate.
He should have waited his turn, but Obama’s selfish ambition of grabbing it all way way too soon caused has seriously jeopardized the Democratic Party’s chances of winning the White House in November.
Meanwhile, mainstream Americans in Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virgina have already sent a clear message to the super delegates that they will not vote for Far Left Obama.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

The clintons have tried anything under the sun. They have cited poll after poll, and what have the Superdelegates done? Come out for Obama. Are the arguments working? Well, doesn’t look like. The superdelegates are politicians who understand that polls at this very early stage are just useless. In 1992 at this point, Ross Perot was beating Daddy Bush and Bill.
The Clintons were hoping for Obama to sink in the polls. They were hoping for Rev. Wrigth to doom Obama in North Carolina and Indiana. That was the day when they lost the nomination once for all. Just by looking at Bill’s face you could tell.
They had dreamed of pulling an upset in North Carolina, or at least make it close, and winning double digits in Indiana. You could see on Bill’s face that winning Indiana by less than 15,000 votes out of more than 1,000,000 was not the kind of showing they were looking for. They lost and we won!!! We the people said: Down with the monarchy!
No more Bushes; No more Clintons. I don’t mind who wins in Nov. We already won when the Clintons lost.

Posted by: carl29 | May 25, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Ckman, stop ranting. No black man is going to riot because if Obama wins, everyone is going to support him and no one is going to take that mandate away from him. All the same, Hilary has every right to continue to be in the race eventhough the odds are all against her but she is definitely not wishing Obama dead. Eventhough I feel she should never had tried exemplifying with that issue but looking at the whole context, I think it was a mis-characterisation just like Obama’s bitter comment. Everyone knows what Obama meant but for political reasons, they played it the other way. Thats politics for you. Be good to Hilary, we will need her support and all her supporters. Obama cannot win without her support and vice-versa.

Posted by: vuzous | May 25, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

It’s obvious the Clinton’s continue to have entitlement issues when it comes to politics.
Life will go on as usual for the rest of America with or without the Clinton’s in the White House. No sleep lost here.

Posted by: Judy Gassman | May 25, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Dem…personally, I don’t support either three of the puppets running, but you do not have a clue.

Posted by: Truth | May 25, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Once voters realized that “Obama would be the nominee”, his support within most demographic categories declined, and declined significantly in most cases. Obama’s support declined overall by 2.3%
· Obama’s support among men declined by 2%,
· Obama’s support declined among women by 1.2%,
· Obama’s support declined among White voters by 4.8%,
· Obama’s support declined among Hispanic/Latino voters by 3.2%,
· Obama’s support declined among White males by 6.7%, and
· Obama’s support declined among White females by 3.6%.

Posted by: Jim | May 25, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Anarchyjack, you are only fooling yourself.
Anarchism is as radical left of a political ideology as they come.
Anarchists have tried to sought to create political disorder in the French Revolution, and anarchists seek revolution and political disorder to achieve their goal of a stateless society.
They also want society to form communes.
The fact that anarchists, like you, support Far Left Obama is just further proof why mainstream Americans reject Neo-Socialist Obama’s presidential candidancy.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

GO HILLARY! WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING ALL THE WAY. THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LOW CLASS AND PATHETIC INDIVIDUALS. THEY BRING UP YOUR REFERENCE ABOUT RFK AS THAT IS NOT ISSUE THAT IS OF CONCERN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. ONCE AGAIN, THEY HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. GO ALL THE WAY HILLARY CLINTON. YOU WILL WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT AND YOU WILL BECOME THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THIS COMING JANUARY 2009. HILLARY!…HILLARY! ….HILLARY!
GOD BLESS YOU! YOU ARE A BLESSING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE LOVE YOU!

Posted by: marygrace | May 25, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Why do the major news stations choose not to run this?
PRINCETON, NJ — Gallup Poll Daily tracking from May 20-24 finds Hillary Clinton maintaining a significant 49% to 44% lead over John McCain when registered voters are asked about their preferences for the fall general election, while McCain has a slight 47% to 45% advantage over Barack Obama.

Posted by: See | May 25, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Clinton Supporters,
She has every right to stay in the game. but please once and only once tell us what are the game rules. Is it the deligates, popular votes, number of states, … . It is not fair that when you are ahead in something, you calaim it as a criteria.
For florida and Michigan, please be fair. if you tell the story to a 7 years old kid and ask about judgment you will see the truth. a 7 years old kid is not an obama supporter. Two people agreed not runnung on two states, one of them didn’t even puts his name on the ballot in the one of thoes state which voted simbolically. Suddenly one of the candidates who is losing by the way according the rules agreed long time before asks for the symbolic votes. If you have a kid at home please just tell the story and see the reaction.
She has all the rights to stay in the game but she should respect the rules like others and be fair.
Do I look angay and insulting ?

Posted by: Siamak | May 25, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Despite the fact that Obama is considered to be the highly probable Democratic nominee, Gallup Poll Daily tracking continues to show that, at the moment, Clinton is performing better against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain than is Obama. Clinton’s five percentage point lead over McCain is statistically significant, and considerably stronger than Obama’s 2-point loss to McCain among registered voters nationwide.

Posted by: see | May 25, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Anarchyjack, trenches?
What do you know about trenches?
Are you formenting revolution in Latin America lately?
Or are your devoting all of your revolutionary efforts in helping Obama bring socialism to America?

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Jim…. Blah, blah, blah. All of your “self-serving” stats do not matter Jim… Why? Because Hillary LOST. Why is this reality so difficult to grasp! I voted for her in California and can accept that she lost! What makes me sick is that she has shown her true colors and will do ANYTHING to win. She is even back-pedaling on her PLEDGE not to count the MI/FL votes. She is a self-serving, power-hungry, dirty-politics as usual candidate. (Trust me, if she would have shown her true colors while in CA I would have voted for Obama.) I will not make the same mistake of NOT voting for him in November. OBAMA 08!

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Attack them if you want to…the attacks haven’t stopped since the beginning…irregardless she has won more of the popular vote…she is leading McCain in state-by-state match ups in swing states NEITHER ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES CAN WIN WITHOUT THE SUPERDELEGATES…
FL and MI are being cut out of the much touted 50 state strategy of Howard Dean.
The fact remains that regardless of whether Hillary’s supporters mention it or not there has been a relentless attack from the Obama campaign and the media….
I think it’s pretty hypocritical for his campaign to continue all these negative attacks against Hillary and the people that continue to vote for her….while the candidate Obama continues to disagree with all the trash his campaign puts out…for instance their memos that painted both Clintons and Ferrarro as rasists…their continued implications that her voters are ignorant or too old to be seriously considered… And now i suppose any reference to the Kennedys by the Clintons will be considered a threat,,,Why are Obama’s continued references to the Kennedy’s not considered the same?
I will never vote for this guy…

Posted by: Jackie | May 25, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

it is impossible for obama to win in November, and he has only himself and his racist, sexist, arrogant, ignorant, and naive “supporters” to thank for that…

Posted by: chris | May 25, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

@USMarine: You should really be ashamed of yourself to post as a Marine and then go about spewing nonsense, fear and hate like “Don’t help America’s enemies get what they want”. You do not write like anyone in the military I have ever met or known. That kind of B.S. only seems to come from George Bush and his cronies.

Posted by: MIguy | May 25, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Anarchyjack, we already know that you support Hugo Chavez, just like you support Far Left Obama.
Why not “man up” and admit it?
I think it’s great that you are letting everyone know how radical left-wing Obama supporters are.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Way to tell it Bill! He spoke the truth. She’s been trashed in the media and trashed by the Obama campaign. Well, they wouldn’t be trashing her if they weren’t scared of her.
The reason they are scared of her is because she will win the general election and they are trying to get her to quit before the primaries are over.
She’s not quitting, her supporters aren’t quitting and she’s going to win! She is the most qualified and experienced candidate and she has won the most popular votes. She will win the electoral votes in the general election and she will be Madame President!

Posted by: WeNeedaLeader | May 25, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

MIguy, you are fooling yourself if you think that there are not many Hillary supporters in the U.S. military, just like Anarchyjack is wrong to think that most mainstream Americans want anarchy.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

because I love my child and I am very overprotective of him, I cannot in good conscience support anyone other than Senator Clinton for President….

Posted by: chris | May 25, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I can’t believe I voted for this man twice. Honestly, I wish I could take my vote back for him and that Al had taken office in 98. I am sick of that wagging finger and the thought of him back on center stage is not something I want.
He is living in the state of denial, which I hear is not a caucus state.
And I AM NOT a part of Obama Nation. I am an Edwards supporter.

Posted by: Maria | May 25, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

the more i read posts by obama’s apparent “supporters”, the more convinced I am that he is a one-trick pony that has many ignorant and naive people tricked into believing his greatest lie: he’s about “change”….

Posted by: chris | May 25, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Nah, USmarine0331, I’m a middle of the road Democrat and’ll vote for whoever ends up being nominated, provided I agree with their platform (or most of it).
+ Thanks for your service +

Posted by: Might be Milo | May 25, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I despair for our country given the over the top, uncivil discourse, bizarre reasoning, name calling–on every side of the issues. I wonder if historians in fifty years will look back and say that America had somehow turned a corner into unreason, hatred, villification of the Other. I haven’t read every post…just the first fifty or so. I assume they continue in the same sad tone. Just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should.

Posted by: gwb | May 25, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is $31 MILLION in debt. The only reason she’s staying in the race is so that SUCKERS LIKE YOU donate more to her campaign so that she can pay off her bills and bow out. Otherwise, she’s stuck with the bills herself. Clinton would rather let the bills go unpaid, thereby harming hundreds of companies who worked for her campaign. Failing that, she would rather thief her supporters into paying the debt on her failed campaign. The situation is quite disturbing.

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

It’s been great talking to radical left-wingers, like Anarchyjack, who support Obama.
However, I must leave now.
Hillary, keep fighting!
We need you to save the Democratic Party and America from being taken over by anarchists, socialists, and other radical left-wingers!!!

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Respect is earned Bill. If Hillary has no respect it’s because she lost it through her negativity. And don’t you get it yet? Every time you open your mouth in this way you reinforce the idea of her as the “little woman” who needs hubby to chivalrously support her. Frankly the fact now mostly middle-aged women are supporting this contender just because she is a woman, and using insane epithets like “raped” is as sexist as anything in this process. No it’s not YOUR turn. Hillary thought it was HER turn, but she never truly thought of it as being yours.

Posted by: Cartier boy | May 25, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

This primary just underscores the problems with the Democratic Party and the candidates. As an Independent I’ve been unhappy with the spending from the Bush administration and was hoping for more from the Democrats this year. The media coverage *is* insanely biased, but anyone with any legitimate knowledge of politics can trace most major media outlets back to liberal money. Hillary *has* been portrayed poorly by the media–yet one could respond with her lies about Tuzla, among others. My response simply points to Obama’s lies about Jeremiah Wright: he’s quoted some time ago stating that he goes to his pastor even for political advice, then the ugly sermons come out, then Obama says he’d never heard Wright say those things, then he says he “may have said some controversial statements” but that Wright isn’t a political advisor, then Wright tells the world that Obama was disappointed in his sermons simply for political reasons, then *finally* Obama supposedly drops his friend and pastor to stop the bleeding. Meanwhile, Oprah states she left the church long ago because of Wright’s sermons, and we find out that Obama’s been reading Wright’s message of hate the entire 20 years in the Trumpet. McCain sought the endorsement of what he thought was a good evangelical, only to find out that he’s also a hate-monger and proceeded to drop him. Hagee was never McCain’s pastor or friend, and McCain did what Obama should have done 20 years ago.
Chalking Obama’s many mistakes to stress on the campaign doesn’t make him look any more presidential. He thought 10,000 people died in a Kansas tornado. He thinks there are 57 or so states in America. He repeatedly had no idea what city he was speaking in, confusing Sioux Falls and Sioux City, then Sunrise and Sunshine, FL. He wants to raise capital gains taxes so you get to keep less of what you’re trying to invest in your retirement. He wants to have direct talks with terrorists, first saying without preconditions and then saying he never said that–even though it’s still on his website–but now adding with “preparations”, effectively taking Bush’s stance on Iran.
Moral of the story? To the educated eye, Obama is a moron. If his campaign of lies and distortions win him the White House it will show how ignorant this country really is. Next time Dems, put up some better candidates with at least a *little* experience.
Shameful.

Posted by: Jeremy | May 25, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

We all know people who won’t admit they’re wrong in the slightest, and I reckon deep down we all feel the same frustration about their feverish insecurity. Moral weakness is indeed a sign of low character, but puffed-up pride in its absence is also a vice–and it actually hints of very real problems in a political context.

Posted by: NewVision | May 25, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

I think the Clinton’s need to accept defeat and lobby for a better political position within his party instead of crying like a baby, No body is too big they must have learned from their mistakes. Again I must say that Obama is a very good candidate considering the situation of the country at this moment, I think we need some brake may be these war lovers will come back after 8 years of Obama but give us a brake now we don’t need this war to continue.
Law
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: lawrence | May 25, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Hillary lies then Bill lies then Hillary… Lie #1 -I am winning the popular vote Lie #2 I can win Lie #3 I care about the democratic party –Truth #1 I hope something bad happens to Obama so I can win.
Bill and Hillary both need therapy.

Posted by: lowes4321 | May 25, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

How come no one in the HRC fan base can see she just wants you to send in money to her campain?…She wants to repay the debt amdn most of all repay herself then drop out. she is not looking out for you…see NAFTA….I will do anything to win I cannot manage my campain why is every one picking on me…rebel, rebel…..it is because I am a women that is why!….NOT! go ahead and vote for McCain and you will get 4 more years of Bush

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

I Truly Hope You Folks Hire A Democrat For Four Years. I Feel Obama Would Be Your Better Choice, But If I See McCain Get Into Power, I Will Hope Our Government Cuts All Ties With Your Government In Hopes That The Countries He Declares War Upon Leave Us Alone. McCain Is My Country’s Worst Nightmare, And Is Probably At Least In The Top Three Nightmares For Your Country As Well.

Posted by: Canadian Hopeful | May 25, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Clinton completely blew whatever dim, astronomical, vague chance she had at catching up to huge Obama’s delegate lead when she vaguely threatened that he would be assassinated like Bobby Kennedy. It is just completely hard to fathom how desperate and clueless her threat was, let alone that it represented a complete lack of judgement that tells us she would make a terrible President. Her candidacy is over, and every second she spends forcing the issue otherwise is a second towards destroying the Democratic party’s chances in November. But it is clear she cares nothing about the party, and only cares about her selfish career.

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

I completely agree with Bill Clinton. As a member of the Democratic Party, I believe the FL and MI votes need to be counted. Hillary, I believe is the only candidate qualified enough to turn around this country and in my opinion, save America. It hurts me to say this, but I truly believe the reason Obama has taken the popular vote is by motivating uneducated, young and non-political minds to vote. “A change we can believe in,” is what Obama suggests, but I see very little in him to support such a promising statement. If there is one thing I expected America to learn from George Bush its that an inexperienced president, in less then two terms in office can bring the greatest nation in the world to its knees. I am deeply concerned and worried Obama will not deliver and America will continue on a downward spiral. EXPERIENCE MATTERS MOST. Our Nation’s future depends on it.

Posted by: LoveMatthew | May 25, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

US Marine (yeah right) said, “We need you to save the Democratic Party and America from being taken over by anarchists, socialists, and other radical left-wingers!”
Oh STOP IT, “US Marine”. You sound a lot more like Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh than a US Marine. You know, you Republicans should at least try to modify your talking points so that when you pretend to be a Democrat you at least SOUND like a sensible Democrat, and not like a right-wing extremist nut!

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

And this is the man that accused Obama of living in a fairy tale? LOLOLOLOLOL
Joke going around the internet today based on Bill the Perv’s comments?
“How do you know when a Clinton islying?” There mouth is open.
THAT”S the real truth that Bill and Hillary don’t wan’t anyone to know LOL

Posted by: Brian | May 25, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Please someone tell them to GO HOME!!!
Come back another day without blaming the world—PLEASE
Judy

Posted by: Judy Malone | May 25, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

There is NO chance that hillary will EVER be VP after her latest smear attempt on Obama!
I love Obama!!!

Posted by: IslandGirl | May 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Even with Bill Clinton in her corner its almost too late. The media has just about assured that the wrong person will elected our president. McCain or Obama. Both the wrong choice.. Its a shame; this country deserves better.

Posted by: Vince | May 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

LoveMatthew said, ” Hillary, I believe is the only candidate qualified enough to turn around this country a”
Matthew — how can Hillary Clinton turn the country around when she can’t even manage her campaign and beat out a “junior” Senator from Illinois? The truth is, Clinton ran a terrible campaign and is now some $30 MILLION in debt. She can’t run a campaign, and she certainly shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near running the country. The only reason she’s staying in the race is so that suckers like you donate to her campaign to help pay off her $30 MILLION in debt. Otherwise, she’s stuck with the bill herself.

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

IslandGirl said, “There is NO chance that hillary will EVER be VP after her latest smear attempt on Obama!”
I agree.
Why would Obama want to weaken his Presidential position by A) picking his rival opponent as his running mate, and B) picking as his running mate the person (i.e. Clinton) who embarrassed him a month ago by suggesting the he, the delegate leader, should be the VP under HER (who was well behind Obama in delegate count). Obama would be a fool to pick his opponent Clinton as his running mate. He would be the laughing stock of politics. Not only that, but Obama can do much better than Clinton as his VP.
Furthermore, Clinton completely blew whatever dim, astronomical, vague chance she had at catching up to huge Obama’s delegate lead when she vaguely threatened that he would be assassinated like Bobby Kennedy. It is just completely hard to fathom how desperate and clueless her threat was, let alone that it represented a complete lack of judgement that tells us she would make a terrible President. Her candidacy is over, and every second she spends forcing the issue otherwise is a second towards destroying the Democratic party’s chances in November. But it is clear she cares nothing about the party, and only cares about her selfish career.

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

LoveMathew–
Clearly you do not follow the exit polls that have been going on for the last 5 months.
Obama gets the majority of votes from people with at least 4 years of college and income over $50K a year.
Hillary gets the uneducated, no college, under $50K vote.
Don’t try to make an argument when you do not have the facts.
Obama supporters aren’t afraid of change, a change we desperately need in this country. We actually have the capacity to read policy positions and understand them. Hillary supporters base their arguments on pure emotion with nothing to back it up.

Posted by: SAY WHAT | May 25, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Bill Clinton is 100% Correct. Electoral College maps right now show Hillary Clinton beating McCain. Hillary Clinton Picks up Ohio, Florida, Arkansas, and West Virginia. At the same time,if you look at the Electoral Map as McCain VS. Obama, McCain beats Obama hands down. McCain wins Florida, Ohio, West Virginia. Anyone who thinks that Obama is the stronger candidate against McCain, is just wrong, period. If Obama can’t win states like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, how is he going to win the General Election? Its starting to feel like 2004 all over again.

Posted by: Paul | May 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Anarchyjack, you falsely flatter yourself.
But hey!, America’s is still a free country, so go ahead and keep fooling yourself into believe that you are more than my equal.
The truth is you are no match for a U.S. Marine, physically, intellectually, or spiritually.
However, I suspect that you are an atheist too, so I’m sure that you are not worried about being amoral.
So long for now, Anarchyjack.
Just don’t forget that your quest to bring anarchy to America will most likely fail.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

The ONLY reason Hillary Clinton is where she is is because she is Ex President Bill Clinton’s wife. Some how the Clinton’s got the idea it was her right to be President. This is not happening and we are seeing how wicked they are. I am a New York Republican voting for Obama but not if Hillary on the ticket. Then I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: Petern42 | May 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

People who think Obama middle name is muslim name don’t know much about names. His name is actually in the Bible and the bible tells you what it means. Try reading the bible and stop being so hateful. Hilliary is a liar and all of you know it. She is for you if she needs you. At first she was for black people. Now she is for hard working WHITE Americans. Oh yell she was once for the drunks, remember the bear. On Easter day she was pro-life, anyone who know anything about Joel Osteen knows he’s pro-life. In Florida she was all about the jews. I know she has to address different culture’s, but she need to show that she is a strong woman. She plays on Americans because of her great in embaressment with the L girl. We as Americans have to many needs and concerns that need to be address rather than feeling sorry for poor Hill. Suck it up all you haters of blacks and hispanics. Its not about him or her its about you hate. America is not so white anymore. She better pay attention that same speach she gave about the hard working whit Americans will come back to haunt her in the future. The hispanics ought to be offended by that too. Stop the hating your mother or father has a black person somewhere in their blood line. After all we came from two people, unless your great great great great grand daddy was a ape.

Posted by: Peace | May 25, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Kevin says….
“go ahead and vote for McCain and you will get 4 more years of Bush”
What fool would want this? Oh thats right the UNEDUCATED hillary supporters!!!
YES WE CAN
Obama 08′

Posted by: CuteNSmart | May 25, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

This country has done a godawful job of educating its people in political law. Here are some facts:
1) The delegate count is only valid if one of them can reach the minimum of 2209 (counting MI & FL), or 2025 (without MI & FL)
2) Since neither can reach even 2025, it means that the Democratic electorate is so split on who to choose that it must be left up to the party’s political experts (members, that is), to intelligently select the person who they believe can beat the Republican most easily.
3) Right now (forget the earned delegates because they are now passe–this is not a contest to see who wins the most delegates, but who wins the MINIMUM required number of delegates. Since neither can, earned delegates are passe), Hillary has the lead in actual popular votes. She also has the lead in electoral votes for the general election.
4) Hillary has the most real presidential experience.
5) Hillary has gone up against the Republicans several times and won.
6) Hillary has proved herself strong, tenacious, and able to overcome being the underdog.
7) Hillary will fight for the Presidency against McCain; she will not allow the Republicans to steal the election, nor will she give up like Kerry did without challenging the vote.
Hillary ’08

Posted by: carley | May 25, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

SayWhat….I could not agree with you more!…..and yes to whom read this I have a 4 year degree and make more than 50K

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Bill Clinton speaks the truth. Hilary has to say she’s sorry for just breathing and Obama can do and say what he wants. The “old boys club” is so afraid of a woman running this country that they will do and say anything to stop her. Obama is a joke. He is this pious person who can walk on water, prays at a wonderful church, had a minister who was his mentor (a questions mark on this one, I think that idiot still ministering to Obama), has a wife who is just a lovely sweet talking lady, has one of the best records in the office he was elected to and is just an all around great person.
I will be staying home on election day, you have McCainbush and you have Obamaonetermonly.
I will be able to say “I told you so” after about six months of either one of these so called great men running this country more into the ground than it is now.
I will take Hilary at least you know what you get with her. As far as Bill goes, he was a heck of a better president than either Bush and a much better statesman than a lot of other presidents and that includes presidents from either party. It looks like if the “old boys club” not only have to be afraid of a woman they are afraid of Bill. They have keep on raking up old history on him and really who gives a darn. I would like each one of those from the “club” who has NOT fooled around on their wife or partner or has not cheated in one way or another while in office, lied with a very straight face to the voters, wasted mega tax payer dollars,etc.,ect. to please step forward. I don’t see much movement.

Posted by: 21grnadma | May 25, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

It is so sad, that the Media,and Obama followers, fail to see that their candidate has been sliding downwards in the polls since February. Getting to know him, is obviously not always a good thing for Obama. As more and more people, see his failings, his popularity is dipping. So, what does the media do? They keep propping him up. Putting non-stories on their newscasts, i.e., RFK statement, than the real stories, i.e., Obama’s going down in the polls. Thank you Bill, for pointing out the media bias for Obama, as usual.

Posted by: beachnan | May 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Oh, don’t worry. If you don’t like what the Clintons are saying, wait a few days for the recalibration.

Posted by: Mike Malter | May 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

It is too bad that you Hillary people would vote for McCain just out of spite. I guess you shouldn’t vote at all if that’s your reasoning. Hope you come around when the dust settles and just go do the right thing.

Posted by: Aron | May 25, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

LOVE MATTHEW… Do a little research before you claim that “experience is what we need most.” Some of the best presidents of America had little political experience before taking office. But hey, Richard Nixon had a long career as a politician before becoming president. Maybe that’s just what we need… another career-politician…

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Think…
I agree with everything that you wrote!!
You are a Thinker! :)

Posted by: IslandGirl | May 25, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

If Hillary would have won Iowa, and the 11 contests in a row after Iowa that Obama won, we would not be having this discussion, because SHE would be in the delegate lead. The fact is, Clinton ran a TERRIBLE campaign and SHE LOST. Her behavior now is just plain selfish and childish. She is not capable of being graceful and respectful by dropping out. She would rather damage the Democratic party and divide the only group of people capable of ending Bush’s 8 years of failed policies. Who’s side is she on, anyways?

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

You have to believe Bill because he knows a lot about disrespect. He disrespected the Presidency of the United States of America in every way possible.
Thank God Hillary doesn’t have a fraction of the charm Bill did. We dodged a bullet.
This is America not a monarchy for the Bush and Clinton families.

Posted by: BELIEVE BILL | May 25, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Warren Buffett, the most prudent investor the world has ever known, endorsed Barack Obama yesterday. Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia (supposedly a ‘Clinton’ state — yeah right!) endorsed Barack Obama yesterday. John Edwards endorsed Barack Obama last week. Barack Obama is leading by some 200 delegates. That means only 1/6 of the remaining Super Delegates need to endorse him this week and he WINS the nomination Friday. OBAMA ’08!

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

What a bunch of uninformed, hateful, jealous LOSERS!
Typical Democrats I suppose …
Take a look at Hillary and see how a winner looks and behaves – seems like Democrats linger in the dark about this thing called “winning”!
By the way, could any of you dingbats see a President Hillary/VP Obama ticket is the ONLY WAY both could fit comfortably on a ticket? Ever hear of corporate discrimination? That’s when the older, wiser, more competent FEMALE is instructed to train the newcomer, inexperienced, younger handsome MALE to be her BOSS!
The idea of Hillary as VP to Obama as Pres sets my nerves on edge. Perhaps one of you brains wants to describe the reasoning for making Obama President with Hillary as VP?
Hillary Clinton has handled herself so well in this difficult situation she has even earned the respect of some of the right sided talk show hosts. I hate to admit this but one thing Republicans do much better than Democrats do is WIN. Democrats are preoccupied with “looking good” and doing the “right thing”. Republicans do what they must do to win.
Didn’t the last two Democratic Presidential failures withdraw as requested “for the good of the country”?
Now the same idiots tell Hillary she must withdraw “for the good of the party”. How easily you all forget what it was we all liked about Bill Clinton – We liked that he was not afraid to stand up for himself, even to the dreaded Republicans. Now we criticize Hillary for doing the same thing? Only her opponent is not yet the Republicans – it is only another Democrat, who looks worse every time he or his supporters beg her to withdraw.
WHY SHOULD SHE? The race is almost tied; if all the votes were counted she would be winning the popular vote; she IS leading the electoral college vote. The latest polls have Clinton easily beating McCain; Obama not so – he is losing to McCain in most of the same polls.
Don’t forget how all of you are too happy to ignore the last two primary elections where Hillary beat the pants off your Magic Man – by 41 points and then by 36 points. I wonder how unimportant these totals would have been if they belonged to Obama and not to Hillary?
I assume this site is populated by Obama-maniacs because of the absence of substance to any arguments against Hillary. Instead there are the same empty and groundless personal attacks and insinuations used regularly by losers who cannot quote facts to back up their bigoted preferences.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I wish I could blame Bush on you too, but being dyed-in-the-wool losers will have to suffice for now.

Posted by: Jessica | May 25, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Aron,
Don’t be fooled. These people who claim that will vote for McCain if Obama wins were going to vote for him anyway. They are republicans in disguise because they know that if Barack wins the nomination their Senior-Citizen candidate does not stand a chance. Don’t worry buddy. The republican ticket was dead from its inception. :) Obama 08!

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Are the Clintons TRYING to destroy the party? It’s time for the supers to end this, before the Clintons destroy our chances in Nov. They are NOT entitled to lose this for us! there’s too much at stake!

Posted by: dem in chicago | May 25, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

It’s so sad to read what people write about another person. Hillary Clinton is NOT out to get the nomination at all costs, she is NOT out to get Obama, and she is NOT a quitter.
She had a poor choice of words on Friday…big deal. Who hasn’t chosen words poorly at one time or another?
The truth is, Hillary is still in this race for many of the same reasons Obama is – she believes she’s the best candidate for the job, and I believe her. I like Obama, but I don’t think 3 years in the US Senate makes one ready for the most powerful job in the free world. He speaks a great game, and he’s someone other than a Clinton or a Bush. That’s why he is getting such huge support from others. I’m not jumping on the Obama bandwagon, though, just because so many others are. I want more “meat” from my candidates.
Hillary has given me a lot to believe in, a lot to consider. I care deeply about this country, and I know she does. I know she cares about ALL Americans – black, white, gay, straight, Democrat or Republican – even Independents.
Some of you must think you are better than Hillary and know her without even meeting her. Don’t believe everything the media hypes – I was once a journalist, and I know editors and reporters can make a lot out of nothing.

Posted by: John Cummings | May 25, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Senator Clinton has been treated disrespectfully by the press. She is a two-time elected Senator with over 65 percent of the vote. She is also a former first lady. You many not agree with her policies, or her politics, but the attacks by the media are way over the top calling her a bitch and so forth.
Yes try reading the bible and then accuse Hilary of being a liar.
It was Senator Obama, who calls everyone a racist who doesn’t support him. Talk about transcending race. Senator Obama is simply not qualified for the position and calling people racist isn’t going to give the experience necessary for the job. If 20 percent of the white population said race was a factor that would mean 80 percent don’t. With a 95 percent support from the AA community who by the way are never asked if race was a factor in their decision, those numbers I would be interested in knowing.
This type of thinking reflects something beyond Senator Clinton.

Posted by: Linda C | May 25, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

I believe that Juan.

Posted by: Peace | May 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Carley–
You nailed it, the super delegates will be the one’s deciding this.
The writing is on the wall. Hillary was toast last week. Now she is burned toast. You don’t invoke the idea of assassination in politics.
The silver lining of her latest comments is that she will not be on the ticket as VP either.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Hey Anarchyjack,
I’ve already answered your question, now answer whether you also support Hugo Chavez’s goal of spreading socialism to Venezuela and beyond.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Its funny how people mention that Hillary’s campaign is in debt as if it is some kind of good argument.
What’s so darn funny about it is that the guy with all the money keeps losing by huge deficits in states like WV & KY, while his opponent has no money.
Obama outspent her 5 to 1 in PA and lost!!!
You can’t buy the voters, Obama, and that’s why he’ll lose. He can run all the commercials he wants and spend millions upon millions filling the media’s coffers while doing it, but he just can’t seem to close the deal, can he?

Posted by: WeNeedaLeader | May 25, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Anarchyjack, I really want to eat supper, but what the hey!
I’ll put off supper to show how radical left-wing manyof Obama supporters are.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

I will NEVER vote for Hillary, She is a snake, I dont trust her a little!
I have been voting Democrat for over 30 years, If Hillary steals the nomination from Obama, I will be voting Republican for the first time!!!
Obama or no one!

Posted by: Mark | May 25, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

The Clinton’s should return to Arkansas where their obviously unintelligent acquisation might be belived. Isn’t that how he became governor in the first place?

Posted by: cyndi | May 25, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Barack Hussien Obama is completely unfit to be VP. Hillary, please dont even think about it.

Posted by: brigitte | May 25, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

I think if Obama is elected there will be more crime then ever before.Hillary Clinton is smarter then Obama and Mcain put together. People needs to leave Hillary Clinton alone. The votes in Florida and Minesota must be put into the polls. Hillary Clinton must be the next president.

Posted by: Brian Theus | May 25, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

The republicans are there for the taking any democrat should be able to defeat them. It’s true Obama may not win the GE but primarily because of these two factors: RACISM and HILLARY’S EXTENDED CAMPAIGN. But I know for certain Hilary will NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA. NEVER EVER! Obama ’08

Posted by: NO_TO_HILARY! | May 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

No matter how many paid Obama bloggers come on here to discredit Clinton, my mind is already made up and will not change. To any that say they voted for Clinton or supported her and changed their minds they have to be nuts. The longer this campaign goes on the more of a champion I am of Clinton. I have wanted her to run for President in the first place. She has proven to be the best one to be President. Obama has told so many lies and there are many more to come. He is is unelectable. Get educated on Obama. Many of these young college students voting are voting for the first time. They are busy with college and not interested in the facts. Not all are that way, but many are. The ones that just want to be on the bandwagon of a winner are airheads and are unaware of his characteristics and the danger Obama would be for this country. These are extremely serious times and it is not a time to gamble with this country. If we had a strong economy we might be able to survive 4 years and then get him out of office. If we weren’t engaged in a serious mess in Iraq with oil and terrorists, we might survive 4 years. This is not a time to gamble!!! Why would anyone not realize that. We know that we had a wonderful economy with the Clinton administration. We know that they love this country. We know that the country had a huge deficit and that Bill Clinton left with a surplus. We know that they are not muslims or radicals. Even Obama’s Pastor is a radical. Rezko is on trial that is real folks. Obama was friends with him for 17 years. William Ayers and his wife are radicals. Obama wants to meet with radicals. Radicals are backing him and trying to get him elected. They are salivating hoping he makes it. Hamas can’t wait. Why if you love America would anyone AMERICAN be willing to take the risk? Because OBAMA uses the words HOPE and CHANGE??? Anyone and many have said those words and nothing was changed. Obama says he wants to do things diofferent in Washington. That is a laugh. Why was he consorting with Rezko to cheat the Teachers Retirement Fund??? Why is he taking money from big oil??? Why does his mentor hate America??? Why does his wife hate America??? These people are too close to him for him not to have the same beliefs. Stop and think before you destroy this country. NO OBAMA!!!! The Obama paid bloggers can say whatever they like. They are voting by color. The colors I vote for are RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!

Posted by: carolyn | May 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Bill’s right on the money. And with the RFK assassination slur against Hillary, the Obama campaign pounced on it, used it for maximum effect, even emailed a keith olbermann attack piece on it to the media on Saturday. And then Obama comes out and says: “I take Hillary at her word that she meant nothing by it.” This is the way Obama always plays these things, viciously attacking Hillary through surrogates and the media and then slyly saying there’s nothing there. The whole affair was disgusting. And anyone who thinks Hillary was linking RFK’s assassination to a possible attempt on her rival should vote for Obama, after they see a therapist. If you want someone who would exploit a reference to the timing of RFK’s assasination for political gain, vote Obama, he’s your champion.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 25, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Anarchyjack, tell us more about why you, someone who wants to bring anarchy in America, supports Far Left Obama.
Does Obama’s socialist revolution help bring you closer to your goal of bringing anarchy to America?

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

The big story of the 2008 Democratic Primary is not going to be that Obama is the nominee — the big story is going to be how HUBRIS doomed the frontrunner. HUBRIS, Mr. President, is what derailed the Hillary Clinton for President train. It’s like this, President Clinton: you and your wife are so proud that you cannot see reality. And it is ironic that, despite efforts earlier in the primary season to push YOU out the door and to allow Hilly Clinton to speak for herself — it is ironic that it is Hillary Clinton’s own actions and words that are ending her campaign. But like with all proud people who have a sense of entitlement, you and HC continue to look for excuses about why you can’t wrest this nomination away from Obama. The truth, President Clinton, is that the Clinton era is over. You are the past. You are the 1990s. You have surrounded yourselves with YES MEN who have a vested interest in continuing this campaign, but the truth is that Clinton Fatigue has been a problem since at least last fall; otherwise, HC could have sewed up the nomination back then. That she didn’t is testimony to the pride that always comes before a downfall: the inability of either you or your wife to understand that the situation had changed and to adjust accordingly. Now, you are left to wring your hands and wonder “What Happened?” Surely, you believe, someone must be blamed for this. The truth is that — just like MacBeth was responsible for his own actions — HC and you are responsible for your own failings. It is your inability to recognize your failings that is the most ironic of all. BECAUSE IF HC WOULD HAVE EXITED STAGE LEFT AFTER KENTUCKY, she would have left the race a WINNER. She could have been VP. She could have been a Supreme Court Justice. Now, she is simply a has-been. Like a party guest who just doesn’t know when to leave, HC is the person being shoved out the door after outstaying her welcome. And she will carry this shame with her — and your own legacy will suffer as well. You two just don’t seem to understand that the harder you push, the more you push others away. All of your friends that have been encouraging you since March are doing so out of a sense of responsibility. They are doing it out of friendship. And they are doing this because they can’t bring themselves to be cruel to be kind. They don’t want to hurt your feelings by telling you it’s over; they’re hoping your smart enough to figure that out on your own. But your PRIDE prevents you from understanding this fact, and so you two stay on, continuing to fight, even though the contest is already over. And every day that you grow more and more desperate, you make more and more mistakes — like the gaffe about RFK’s assassination. No one is pushing HC out of the race. It’s just that everyone but you recognizes that it’s over. It’s ironic that with all your political know-how, you can’t understand that fact. PRIDE, President Clinton — HUBRIS — is your downfall. And the entire political community is now willing to let you play out this Shakespearean tragedy because they know that in the end you will have to go home. Wake up; you’re sacrificing your legacy and all that it entails. After 2008, no one wants the Clintons anymore.

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | May 25, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

I am so disappointed in Hillary.
I can not in good conscience vote for McCain as my best friend’s husband was killed in the Iraqi war.
I will be voting for Obama, I pray he ends the war in Iraq!

Posted by: LynnFromCalifornia | May 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Jessica–
Your arguments are about 30 years too late.
Clinton does not “deserve” anything, nor has she “earned” anything because she is female. People earn through merit not gender. Wake up and smell the new millennium. It isn’t the ’70s and the smoke from the burning bras cleared a long time ago.
She is losing because she failed to understand the rules of the game. Regardless of whether the rules are stupid (and they are), those were the rules she agreed to play by.
It does feminism no good to whine and cry after you fail.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

i am not an american, but i know that the media is biased agansy mr clinton because she is a women and too the dont want after another bush another clinton .
the top secret,

Posted by: louis anusionwu | May 25, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

Obama should be ashamed of himself. It is Memorial Day Weekend and in the Wesleyan Commencement Address Obama gave in Connecticut, I did not hear one word of thanks by Obama for the service of the United States Veterans and those lost fighting for our freedom. I fear for our Nation if a man such as Obama is elected to the highest office of our land. A man who is so ungrateful for the service and lives given by our brave armed service men and women who keep the peace and protect us all here at home.

Posted by: Sally | May 25, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Juan-
Experience is most important qualification. Times have changed. America is more complex then ever before. We need a president that is ready to act on day one.

Posted by: LoveMatthew | May 25, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

For god sakes, let the lady do her job to run in this race ,there are more important thing’s to address, Is mr O scarde she might get in,,,, .I hope she does, Shr has every right to run till the end…… I’m for Hillary.keep going

Posted by: eckler | May 25, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Jeremy did you forget that Obama graduated from Harvard and taught constitional law for ten years? He was refering to the U.S. Territory maybe that is why educated people vote for him we can figure these things out.?

Posted by: Kevin | May 25, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

JOHN CUMMINGS… I respect your love for this country. As an immigrant my self let me tell you that the love I have for this nation is unmeasurable. However, that same love for America has to force you to see things for what they are. When Hillary began her campaign I too voted for her because I liked what the Clinton’s had brought to our country. Recently though, the Clinton’s have unveiled a dark side of them that has made me crinch at the idea of them moving back into the White House. For the most part Hillary stands up for the same people Barack stands up for. The difference is on the way they run their campaign… this tells us on their principles and values. As a responsible American I urge you to research both candidates and see for yourself why more and more Americans have switched their support from Hillary and McCain to Barack Obama. If you want “meat” or substance read Barack Obama’s “Blue Print for America” and “Issues” on his website. Do not be lazy and regurgitate what Hillary supporters mindlessly say to attack Obama. Obama 08

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

However, you admit that you are an anarchist.
So please explain why an anarchist, like yourself, supports Far Left Obama?
Is it because Obama’s socialist revolution will bring you closer to your goal of bringing anarchy to America?

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

BILL!
YOU AND HILLARY BOTH NEED A VACATION!
I thought he was maintaining his grasp on reality and would help bring her down.
I guess not.

Posted by: Gina | May 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Most of the comments in this blog are right on. I used to really love Bill Clinton but Hillary is not Bill for sure. I used to love Hillary too but they both got so nasty in the last few months of this primary election season. And guess what Hill & Bill? This is why you’re losing right now. And not just losing in this bid for the nominee of the Democratic party. You’re losing people like me who wouldn’t have thought you all could be as nasty as what we’ve heard you were over the past 16 years. There have always been folks who said the Clintons would do anything to win. But most of us never believed it. Hillry’s most recent comments aimed at Senator Obama pushed me over the edge. I could never support her in any political race again b/c her comments were mean and mean spirited. I understand all is fair in love, war and politics but some things are obviously over the line. But this is only the straw that broke the camel’s back. It’s all the other damning things Hill & Bill have been saying that have shown the true colors of these two people most of us had considered great Americans. They’re just great politicians who now have to be looked upon in a different vain than before. You have to stabd for something or you’ll fall for anything.

Posted by: CB | May 25, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Obama has accomplished NOTHING to earn him this symbolic anointment by the MSM. Hillary has every right to fight to the end. I hope the Democrats in Michigan and Florida sue the DNC for all it has!

Posted by: Mary | May 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

LoveMathew–
Hillary doesn’t have any experience. She is a junior senator who has accomplished nothing.
If you needed an appendectomy would you go to your doctor’s wife to take it out?
Being the First Lady qualifies you to be the First Lady, NOT president.
Move on.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

I have never seen such a naked, unapologetic disdain for the democratic process. At every turn throughout this campaign, the Clintons have insisted on unilaterally re-defining what the metrics are for victory, called those who support their opponent ‘Judas’, whined about the treatment Hillary is getting by America, and now are blaming Democrats for her failure to win the nomination. Summed up: What sore losers the Clintons are.

Posted by: Soldier | May 25, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

voteforthebest
so what you are saying is that the math doesnt work for obama becuase neither will have the 2026 right?
but since obama will have the majority of delegates (supers and pledged) after the contest, the supers instead of voting for obama, and giving him the 10-20 he would need to get hte nomination
they should instead all vote for clinton…
who lost more states, is behind in super delegates, and also pledged delegates, and still… still ahead in the popular vote
you would suggest they take the nominatoin from the first african american presidential nominee and instead give it to hillary?
and how can you even justify this?
if this were hillary in obamas position, and they took it away from her, you wouldnt cry out?
please…. that is the most insane thing i have heard yet on these boards
talk about sexism… and racism…

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Some thoughts about the Clintons:
Hillary meant no harm and indeed didn’t even imply harm to Obama with her RFK comments on Friday. The stories in the media were simply incorrect. She was wronged…..OR….was she?? Please read on.
While the news media acted incorrectly like hungry piranhas who printed and said what they said, not out of any interest in precision, but out of an interest for competition for readership…..we can ask ourselves….Did not the media do to the Clintons what the Clintons have done to their opponents and the media and the American electorate, throughout not only this Primary cycle, but indeed, for Bill’s Presidential years as well. The answer is an unequivocal YES. We all have seen the times when minor news items broke about Obama (as it does countless times in a day or week), and then a cut to Hillary deriding Obama for the behavior ad-nauseum. She does so in a predictable manner, no matter the magnitude of the particular offense. To the Clintons, this is simply Politics…it’s their way, if you will. But to Obama, this is the old way of Politics which he says he wants to change. The media appears to agree and as such, they appeared complicit in delivering to the American public a story about RFK which was just as truthful (or as untruthful) as many, many stories/takes delivered by the Clintons. We all know the old saying concerning this matter….You Reap what you Sow. The Clintons are reaping exactly what they have become expertly adept at sowing here. So…Bill really has no complaint whatsoever.
Should we be worried that the media appears to have been just as unobjective as the Clintons usually are??? Maybe…. Although I chuck this up to them finally giving the Clintons their up-and-comings.
On a different matter, it is quite wrong to imply/suggest that Hillary’s staying on with the fight is justified by her not being a so-called quitter. It’s one thing to stay in a fight that you have some chance to win and not quit…It’s quite another thing to stay in a fight well beyond your time when it is quite apparent that you are quite literally a LOSER. Hillary quite simply has become the guest who stayed too late at the party and turned into a drunk that everyone wants gone.
Hillary WILL go all the way to the convention. She will do this for many reasons. Some of which will be an insistence that many of her (and Bill’s) people get certain posts in an Obama Administration. Perhaps other negotiations such as just what a health-care bill should/should not include. Her potential wish-list could be endless.

Posted by: YardoKnowsBest | May 25, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Carolyn — your perfect recitation of the Republican talking points shows whose side you’re really on. In fact, all of you supposed Clinton supporters are ALL using the favorite Republican talking points! It is so clear who you really are. You are Republican Operation Chaos volunteers (GOOGLE Operation Chaos and find out how low the Republicans are going to steal Democratic votes).
If any of you truly care for your country, and truly want to see a different type of positive change in Washington DC, vote Obama. Learn about the corruption and dirty tricks being played on you by the so-called conservatives who’ve run this country into the ground the last 8 years. You have the power to help change this country! OBAMA 08.

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

obviously Carley is lumped in with my above comment since she is also delusional…

Posted by: bhrandon | May 25, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Warren Buffett, the most prudent investor the world has ever known, endorsed Barack Obama yesterday. Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia (supposedly a ‘Clinton’ state — yeah right!) endorsed Barack Obama yesterday. John Edwards endorsed Barack Obama last week. Barack Obama is leading by some 200 delegates. That means only 1/6 of the remaining Super Delegates need to endorse him this week and he WINS the nomination Friday. OBAMA ’08!

Posted by: Think | May 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

The simple truth is, had Saddam adhered to UN resolution 1441 the US would not have invaded Iraq. Documents secured from Saddam now show that Saddam had every intention of restarting his WMD program as he did not think the US would invade him. So sooner or later, the world would have had to face up to the immediate threat Saddam posed to the world. Post 9/11, the US decided it would not wait and be attacked by a known enemy of the West . An enemy who cheered 9/11 , provided aid to Hamas , and who every intelligence agency reported had WMDs. Thus Iraq was invaded. It should be noted that if Obama had gotten his way, and Saddam was still in power the US and the West would be dealing with TWO MAJOR Middle Eastern Nations intent on developing or already in possession of nuclear weapons!!! The facts on the ground now in Iraq are that Al Qaeda is there and if the USA retreats and turns Iraq over to them, Al Qaeda will have access to Iraq’s large oil reserves and thus the means and opportunity to attack us and attack us hard. Our Middle Eastern allies may loose faith in our good word and abandon us and hook up with Al Queda, not to mention the boost a withdrawal from Iraq will give to Iran, Syria and Hamas. Think WWIII, A lot of people on these posts scoff at the threat Al Qaeda and the rest of their ilk poses to the security of the US and future of the Western World. I say stop thinking the worse of America and save a little of your vitriol for our true enemies who want to kill us all. If Obama is elected his defeatist policies will put us all at more risk of another 9/11 attack and even worse the blow up the middle east which will mean more will die, just like what happened in WWII when people thought Hitler could be appeased and were wrong, very wrong. Whats more, the killing fields of cambodia could be played out again in Iraq by Al Qaeda, Only this time the people murdered could be the very people that risked their lives to support the US. Question, if Obama wins,can you sleep well at night if you get what you want and this happens? I hope not.

Posted by: Mary | May 25, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Jessica,
As a registered Democrat, I should be ashamed of myself by voting for the Liberal Dem Candidate in the last election instead of staying home. In the coming November, this time I will proud to vote for John McCain if Hillary is not the Dem nominee for the sake of the country.

Posted by: stock_craft | May 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Total Delegates for Obama: 1,969
Total Delegates for Hillary: 1,779
YES WE CAN!!!!
Obama 08′

Posted by: IslandGirl | May 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

It saddens me that everyone one here is so defensive and rude. We are dividing the party to the point where neither canidate will be able to unit the party. Is that what we want?

Posted by: LoveMatthew | May 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Mathew;
America will always be more complex as time moves on. The Industrial Revolution was probably seen as the most complex time in American history. But we still elected career politicians into the White House who managed to put the American brand into shame. Your argument does not hold water. If what you are saying is correct then the Bible should be considered obsalete because it’s teachings do not apply to our “complex” world. The thoughts of Aristotle, or Plato should then be tossed out the window because we NOW live in a more “complex” world. Keep this in mind… situations might change but the human factor remains constant. History is a great indicator to see the path that we are headed on. And history has proven that great experience in politics does not mean they will be up to the challenge when it comes to the presidency… just ask Woodrow Wilson. Or Mr. “Dikk” Nixon. But again, if you believe that a career politician who has shown her true colors will be a great president then I would suggest that you pay closer attention to political history.

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

PS … Laurie of Michigan
RE: “Well I am a white female, and HRC is defintely not my hero. She is an embarrassment to all women. She just needs to suck it up and go back to New York. I’m betting after her term is up in the senate she’ll never be reelected to office. She has set the women’s movement back 50 years by playing the gender card.”
FYI: Hillary was EASILY ELECTED to her SECOND TERM as Senator in NY, based on her superior record of accomplishments, unlike your man who hadn’t finished his first term before he found something better to do, and who has no accomplishments to speak of.
As for Hillary and the Feminist movement, it seems there were spontaneous women’s demonstrations after the blatant discrimination and shabby treatment Hillary received after she beat Obama by 41 points. It seems she was treated so badly by the media and by fellow politicians that females such as myself, who remained relatively unaware of discrimination against women for most of our lives felt as if we were hit over the head with a ton of bricks by the realization of the extent of discrimination against Hillary!
Even long-term Republican Hillary haters have expressed amazement and respect for Hillary because of how well she has handled herself as she stands almost alone against her sexist male dominated Democratic Party. Each time Obama and/or his supporters begs her to withdraw “for the good of the party” I am reminded of Kerry who withdrew “for the good of the country” and didn’t contest the very irregular voting results of Ohio which gave the 2004 election to Bush.
Posters on this board show a common distortion of facts and misinformation instead of factual knowledge upon which to base valid arguments. Your objections are all personal, not factual.
Can any of you tell me what your man has accomplished in his short time as senator? Besides maintaining a noncommittal “present” instead of voting FOR or AGAINST proposals, what has he accomplished? (PS … sponsoring a bill doesn’t count as it takes only a signature and nothing else to be a sponsor.) He temporarily supported a bill to reveal “bundling” but when it came time to vote on that bill he managed to avoid the floor thereby preventing a quorum and making sure no vote could be taken. That’s a new way of fence-sitting. The bill now remains in limbo.

Posted by: jessica | May 25, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Bill Clinton is absolutely correct. Every poll has HRC winning over McCain in the GE and Obama losing to McCain. In match-ups between Clinton and Obama, Obama has been losing in most demographics. HRC is winning huge victories in key swing states and wins in most of the must-need states in the GE…so, why is the Democratic Party trying to force HRC out and quick to declare the candidate who is behind in the polls their nominee? This is an intellectual question, not an emotional one. Answer for yourselves.
Halli Casser-Jayne
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com

Posted by: Halli Casser-Jayne | May 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Brooke–
It’s just you. Harping on people’s spelling errors is pretty ridiculous, but I guess you really don’t have anything else of substance to say.
You can’t even admit she cut her own throat with the assassination comment. She may have meant nothing by it (though I tend to think it was a Freudian slip), but it doesn’t matter, in politics it is a word that is not to be used. She hurt herself this week. The media has glossed over it and it hardly got mentioned, but she put it out there and the super delegates heard it.
She is finished and she has no one to blame but herself.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

This election season has been very interesting.
It’s amazing how Hillary supporters believe that Obama is elitist, untrustworthy, and a liar.
It’s amazing how Obama supporters believe the Clintons are elitist, untrustworthy, and liars.
Hillary’s supporters believe that Obama has run a negative campaign and that the media is sexist which is hurting the vote (even though the majority of people in the country are female.)
Obama supporters believe the Clintons have run a negative campaign and that there are too many racial bigots in the country who are falling victim to fear mongering.
I was formerly a Clinton supporter…but watching them over the last few months and researching Bill’s presidency and the scandals and mysterious deaths of people around their administration has me praying that they never make it back into the White House.

Posted by: Justme | May 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

His comments come from the polls showing her having a chance against McCain. Which is inaccurate, because the Republicans have completely and utterly left her campaign alone – she’s gotten a free ride from the Republicans.
All so they can focus on the real contender, Obama. It’s absurdly obvious, especially when Rush Limbaugh as begging people to vote for Hillary. I remember him in the 90s, he had nothing but contempt for her. The only logical explanation for it is they want to deal with the more vulnerable of the two. It’s as simple as that.
Republicans have not so much as fired a shot at Hillary, and Obama has been able to maintain a delegate lead despite being double teamed. I love the guy but I have no idea how he can claim that she is “winning the general election” when it hasn’t started yet, and when Republicans have been forced to leave her alone in the hopes that she will defeat Obama for their own benefit.

Posted by: Phil | May 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

If Obama wanted to win he should never have run against Hillary Clinton. She is the strongest person for the job and has too many people behind her that will never back down. Obama you should have waited (oh and gotten rid of Rev. Wright a long time ago).

Posted by: Sam | May 25, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Hillary has mental problems and thats so sad . some one needs to stop her because she cant stop her self . she thought she had this wrap up 2yrs ago but then comes along this guy yeah this Black guy . I was really going to voet for her but then she started actting negtive and it turned me off . then i was shocked this weeked to hear her say ? well clintons ran aneagtive terrible campaign. they act like addicts.The Clintons are slowly going crazy in their bid for power I see.

Posted by: Rob7t | May 25, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

She’s “winning the general election”, the general election hasn’t happened yet. And you have to win the primary before you can win the general, you don’t get to skip it. If anything, skipping the primary process is pushing Obama out, not the other way around.
And looking at polls when Republicans have completely ignored your campaign is utterly irrelevant. If she were the nominee, the gloves would come off in a big way. And “threatening to vote for McCain if she loses” won’t work when she’s running against McCain.

Posted by: Phil | May 25, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Do you see a common theme here?
“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” Rev. Jeremiah Wright
“The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know – there’s a reaction in her that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society.” Barack Obama

Posted by: hmm | May 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

No matter how many paid Obama bloggers come on here to discredit Clinton, my mind is already made up and will not change. To any that say they voted for Clinton or supported her and changed their minds they have to be nuts. The longer this campaign goes on the more of a champion I am of Clinton. I have wanted her to run for President in the first place. She has proven to be the best one to be President. Obama has told so many lies and there are many more to come. He is is unelectable. Get educated on Obama. Many of these young college students voting are voting for the first time. They are busy with college and not interested in the facts. Not all are that way, but many are. The ones that just want to be on the bandwagon of a winner are airheads and are unaware of his characteristics and the danger Obama would be for this country. These are extremely serious times and it is not a time to gamble with this country. If we had a strong economy we might be able to survive 4 years and then get him out of office. If we weren’t engaged in a serious mess in Iraq with oil and terrorists, we might survive 4 years. This is not a time to gamble!!! Why would anyone not realize that. We know that we had a wonderful economy with the Clinton administration. We know that they love this country. We know that the country had a huge deficit and that Bill Clinton left with a surplus. We know that they are not muslims or radicals. Even Obama’s Pastor is a radical. Rezko is on trial that is real folks. Obama was friends with him for 17 years. William Ayers and his wife are radicals. Obama wants to meet with radicals. Radicals are backing him and trying to get him elected. They are salivating hoping he makes it. Hamas can’t wait. Why if you love America would anyone AMERICAN be willing to take the risk? Because OBAMA uses the words HOPE and CHANGE??? Anyone and many have said those words and nothing was changed. Obama says he wants to do things diofferent in Washington. That is a laugh. Why was he consorting with Rezko to cheat the Teachers Retirement Fund??? Why is he taking money from big oil??? Why does his mentor hate America??? Why does his wife hate America??? These people are too close to him for him not to have the same beliefs. Stop and think before you destroy this country. NO OBAMA!!!! The Obama paid bloggers can say whatever they like. They are voting by color. The colors I vote for are RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!

Posted by: carolyn | May 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

stop the hillary machine!
Thank you for your kind words.
Hillary has no remorse for her vote and of course John McCain has no desire to ever leave Iraq.
Obama never supported the war, and so I am placing my hope that he will be the one to bring an end to the war!

Posted by: LynnFromCalifornia | May 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST-
Go back to your toast, obviously you have nothing better to do either.
Has the Messiah blessed your toast? For your sake, I hope so.

Posted by: Brooke | May 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

Phil
Obama is not Rev. Wright and i beleive you dont have anything against Re.Wright if you do go fight him in his church on Sunday

Posted by: lawrence | May 25, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

@ Hillary 2012
I am with you 100%

Posted by: YES! | May 25, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Are you really calling me out on Hillary’s experience? Don’t even get me started on Obama’s past.

Posted by: LoveMatthew | May 25, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

Time to rap this pity party up and go home Bill.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 25, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Hillary 2012–
Perhaps you have not been paying attention this week.
Let’s say Hillary does not win this nomination and Obama does. Let’s go further and say that Obama loses in November.
Now let’s ask the question, who will Obama supporters and the Non-Clinton faction of the democratic party blame?
Now travel into the future of 2012, will Hillary really be the democratic nominee that year?
Answer NO. There will be such outrage that she cost him the election that it will not be forgotten in 4 years. The Clintons will no longer have a strangle hold on the DNC. A new generation will have arrived.
As angry as you Hillary supporters are, Obama supporters will be even angrier. However, we won’t damn the country by voting for a republican. We can stop her dead in the primaries.
There will be no Hillary 2012, if she costs Obama the nomination. Think about how angry you are right now and multiply that by 4 years of festering hatred and 4 years of a McCain presidency.
Hillary is DOA in 2012.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Sam, I agreed. One day in the future, one Black man and many followers will be the US President but not Obama in this century. He has lost the chance to bid the high job not because of he is too black or too white but because he is too green beside a not very clear resume and run against a well public support Hillary Clinton as a very bad manner.

Posted by: stock_craft | May 25, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

What is so ridiculous is that Obama was supposed to be this big uniter and yet he has divided the country. You can see it right here. How many of you posting for Obama are black? I am half black and I am really starting to hate how this campaign is making me feel. I don’t hate Obama supporters but I feel the hate coming from them.

Posted by: Josh | May 25, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

On the home page of ABC news the top story says “Bill blows up”
But in the article it says he calmly stated his position and was subdued as he talked to the crowd.
obamamedia is in control.
This is an example of the subtle way that the obamamedia has been covering the primaries.
Another story today is that barryo says that Clinton is in Florida “stirring up controversy”. But when he was there earlier this week for 3 days he was campaigning.
See the difference in the reporting?
Why was he campaigning? He doesn’t have the nomination yet………
Because he was campaigning for the delegates because he is worried Clinton will get them.
And one more point………
yeah Clinton messed up with the reference to the Kennedy’s…….
But when barryo was asked about it he said it was ok, she was tired, been a long campaign………
Obamamedia at it again, boy ain’t he the greatest? What a swell guy? He’s got class, don’t he?

Posted by: michiganian33 | May 25, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Brooke–
I said it before. There is no God, i.e., there is no messiah.
I vote based on policy, not based on genitalia.

Posted by: SO HAPPY ABOUT TOAST | May 25, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

Anarchyjack, I got news for you; that is, I’m a long time Democrat.
However, being a Democrat doesn’t mean that I will join with an anarchist, like you, and help Obama bring socialism to America.
Most Mainstream Democrats are not radical or left-wing.
However, Obama is, which is why he liked listening to Radical Left-Wing Pastor Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American and racist sermons for 20 years.
Bill Clinton is right!
It is appalling to see how disrespectfully that radical left-wing Obama supporters, like you, have treated Hillary.
Your disrespectful remarks is your undoing.
I bet even gay and female Obama supporters disapprove of your gay and sexist smears.

Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 25, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

I get it because the Media says that the educated people vote for Obama, some of you think you would be considered educated if you vote Obama??? What I want to know is why you don’t have common sense???

Posted by: carolyn | May 25, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

I admire Hillary’s tenacity and faith in her abilities to lead this Nation. I also understand the concern she and her supporters have with Obama’s qualifications to lead this great Nation. Obama has clearly played a lot of dirty politics against Hillary including using the race card against her. Obama’s numerous gaffes and thin resume have been ignored by the media while any gaffe made by Hillary has been played up to the hilt. I just hope the public wakes up and realizes before it is too late that Obama is bad news for (not only the Democratic Party) but for the Nation as a whole. Obama will be the ruin of us all. If you want an end of America, Vote Obama.

Posted by: sam | May 25, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

It’s clear that the DNC/Media have been dissing Hillary & trying to push her out of the race. They’ve written her orbituary for over 3 months now.
Voters want HILLARY! America wants HILLARY more than Obama or McCain. It is the back room power brokers who have been pushing Obama since Day 1 and inflating his campaign coffers. They’ve created this mythological figure.
A nomination of Obama is a McCain presidency, FOR SURE!

Posted by: C. Higman | May 25, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Brooke–
I said it before. There is no God, i.e., there is no messiah.
I vote based on policy, not based on genitalia.
I’m not asking you to vote on genetalia, but maybe you should look at the person too. Just give it a thought.
I’m from Pennsylvania. I’m one of those people Obama called “Bitter”. How am I supposed to not be offended by that? I’m also Jewish and he has repeatedly thrown us under the bus. But I’m supposed to just “suck it up”? I don’t think so.

Posted by: Brooke | May 25, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

What planet is Bill living on?

Posted by: funnyguy | May 25, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Comparing his arrogance with other former Presidents’, his is way over the top.

Posted by: mfr_08 | May 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

It’s not the Dem. party or media who wants her “out”, Bill…it’s the American people who are SICK of her self-serving politics and her twisting the now and both of your blind, narcissistic, pathological needs for power and attention. It’s simple – - Obama has shown himself to be an amazing, inspirational leader/candidate whose message is about creating a new Washington and a bright future for a united country.
If you could just let go and see that the way to really “win” is to embrace his win and throw all your supporters in support of HIM! You cannot win unless you dishonestly count and not count states and votes that were already agreed to before you were losing!
GO AWAY!!! You have BOTH managed ruined your reputations. It’s painful to witness your fall.
Bill is aghast at how we are all so disrespectful of Hillary–he is calling the kettle black – Monica and all his affairs were disrespectful. The super-Delagates are trying to be respectful and waiting this out.

Posted by: Jean | May 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

It’s time for a ‘Two Party Solution’
Split the Democratics into the left
and Left of left. Mrs. Clinton gets
the “realists” while Obama gets his
Hopers. You guys could always join up on occasion if need be, like authorizing
military action for instance.

Posted by: bluecollarbytes | May 25, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Hillary has won in the important states that will matter most in the general election. And more and more Hillary supports are standing up for her saying they will not vote OBama in the generals. If the Dems want the White House, HILLARY IS THE TICKET.

Posted by: LoveMatthew | May 25, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

bhrandon,
Duh, I know this is the United States of America! That’s why I said “Calling all Americans”
First of all, I never said anything about being a good person or being religious. I said we need to allow God through man to run this country and allow him back in the School System, which is why everything is so chaotic. I never said anything about “Religion” which is completely different. God looks on the heart of man and his intentions not on the good works that man performs. Some of the “Christians “that you know may be trying to please God with their good works instead of their hearts. Another reason why many Christians are not leading a productive walk is because they try to do what only God can do and they make themselves look bad. This is why they are probably so screwed up as you have said. And by the way I don’t want religion in our schools either, I want God. He is the only way, the truth and the Light. If you don’t want Him now, you’ll wish you had Him later, because adversity strikes all of us and things in this life time are going to get worst if people don’t turn to Jesus. People will know and see that God is real; I just hope that it’s not too late. I will be praying for you, bhrandon, Thanks!
To the rest of my fellow Americans, Love conquerors a multitude of sins!

Posted by: Debby | May 25, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

I can’t stand the thought of Michelle Obama in the White House. She hates America and she is Obama’s wife. Since when would our country allow this? I find this hard to believe!!!

Posted by: carolyn | May 25, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Hey Bill, I’ve got two words for you: Pat Buchanan

Posted by: Ken | May 25, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Memo to Bill Clinton:
Your wife Has Not been Disrepected
for running!
It is your wife and her surrogates
including you,who have disrepected
Senator Obama! 1.You’re racially motivated comments after the South Carolina Primary.
2. Ed Rendell claiming “some people are
not ready to vote for an African-American candidate”.
3. Geraldine Ferraro’s comments that
Obama wouldn’t be “where he is if he weren’t black”!
4. Hillary saying that Obama can’t win
the votes of “working class white people”!
5. Hillary suggesting that she’s staying in the race because Obama
might be “assassinated”!
You and your wife Invented Disrespect
and Dirty Politics! GO HOME ALREADY!

Posted by: reaganfan | May 25, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

I’ve said it before- if we have another run of republican rule, my daily life will not be that affected. I do feel for the people who will suffer. But I will not bring myself to vote for an anti-American, anti-white, arrogant, shady, totally undeserving person like Obama.

Posted by: another typical white person | May 25, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Jane the Clinton surrgates were on tv this am and pm and really how childish to even spew lies she was comenting on how long Bobby Kennedy was in the race the fact that it was june and since everyone in Obamaland has told her to get out since NH.And the media thinks the sun shines from his a– she has to to tell it like she sees it as do we her supporters.

Posted by: Bishop | May 25, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

The nominating process is a mess. Every voter in every state should have equal influence in voting their choice. The process isn’t over —- so why should anyone be pressured to quit? There are still voters who have not exercised their right. Our deomcratic principles in relation to this process are being trampled by the DRC. What a shame? We’re no better than countries with ‘fixed elections’.

Posted by: David | May 25, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Does this count as “whining”? Hypocrite!

Posted by: mckinney704 | May 25, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

Everyone who is a Democrat should do research on whoever it is that you are supporting. I am a Democrat and would have gladly voted for Clinton or Obama either one. Saying that I know all about Clinton. But Obama I have had to research him and I have found out some things about him that are very disturbing and now I could never vote for Obama because not of heresy’s but according to the truth. If we love our country we should not support Obama. A lot of people are supporting Obama and do not even know what he is about except he can give pretty speeches. Some are voting for him because his skin is Black. If all the Obama supporters would take the time and research Obama I do think that you would not support him very much longer. This is why I am voting Republican for President for the first time in my life. The media or most of them and the far left Democrats are going to vote for Obama no matter what. I do think that a majority of Americans will see through Obama and send him back to Chicago.

Posted by: n912 | May 25, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

He will never get my vote because he did to Hillary just what Bush did to Gore declared he was the winner before he was.And I call that dirty pols so much for change and unity.

Posted by: Bishop | May 25, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

al213 Obama’s policies he is promoting are for children like you who need a parent to take care of them and tell you what to do.
(1) Reduce our freedom and raise our taxes “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said. “That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.” — Barack Obama
(2) Endanger our sovereignty
Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution asthey see fit, for “food” to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with theUN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control.
(3) Intentionally and dramatically weakening the United States military in an increasingly dangerous world.:These are Barack Obama’s own statements below:”First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.I will not weaponize space.I will slow our development of future combat systems.And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production
(4) Increase Disunity: Obama’s words: “White folks greed runs a world in need” plus Obama’s association with: Rev. Wright “God D### America”, Rev. Meeks, Bill Ayers, Raila Odinga* Rabidly anti-Israel Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi., etc.
Obama has the mind Obama feels that all the US has to do to stay safe in the world is to talk, without preconditions, to heads of governments that hate our guts.Obama’s foreign policy in a nut shell: “Talk is precious, action is cheap.”Obama is a very, very dangerous man. America must remain strong militarily. Period or rue the day.

Posted by: Sara | May 25, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

I’m an Obama supporter, former Republican, current quasi-Democrat.
But Bill Clinton was never my favorite president.
All I can say for George W. Bush is this: He did the one thing Bill Clinton never could … he made the Clinton presidency look good.

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Obama sits in a hateful, delusional, racist church, and boasts of spending 20 years as a member of such environment.
Defense: “you took it out of context”
Compare that to Hillary making a comment about in past years primaries running until June: the Obama campaign can’t wait to come out and twist her words around OUT OF CONTEXT in order to divide the party and smear her. This man is a dangerous fraud.

Posted by: Pat | May 25, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Guys, it was fun going back and forth with most of you. I have to go back to having a life now; but before I leave let me just say one thing… We are currently partaking in history, because whether Obama wins or Hillary manages to steal the nomination from him on thing is clear. This point in time will be recorded as a great social and political achievement in US history. I believe the Clinton’s know this which is why they are painfully staying in this race until the end… even though the end has come and gone and they have overstayed their welcome in this primary process. You all have a responsibility to support a candidate that will take us from a different direction the Bush administration has taken us to. I think it is safe to assume that who ever wins the DNC wins the White House because McCain is unapologetic about Bush’s strategies that have placed us in this hole. Hillary has proven to be just another politician who will say or do anything to win the position she is after. I really did like her and even voted for her at first. So the choice is clear. Do we want another “say anything” do “anything to win” dirty politician embodied in a female body? Or do we want a person who in the face of heavy scrutiny and personal attacks decided not to lower himself by fighting using the same tactics. I for one support the latter candidate. A candidate of principle, of inspiration, of future. I support Barack Obama… our next President of these United States of America.
OBAMA 08′

Posted by: Juan | May 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

This stuff has worped the American Psyche. People talking about people they don’t even know and swearing they all have the right answers. OMG!

Posted by: Cheryl L | May 25, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Has anyone noticed how Bill looks more and more like he has been drinking too much? Maybe that is why he rants and flip flops so much?

Posted by: Valerie | May 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Most of the SD that have come out have said Obama’s camp pressured them LESS about endorsing than Hillary’s camp.
Just stating a fact. (Bill – you say “they” a lot… who are you referring to? here’s another example “we have email proof that they wanted to play the race card from the beginning” – umm, please do share this “proof”

Posted by: chris | May 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

This is all too weird! The Bush administration uses this same tactic — if we say crazy stuff enough, people will start to question their own judgment. This is all they have left — to confuse, lie, deny, deflect.
I’m convinced I know the integrity I’m trying to teach my kids — and the Clintons aren’t in the example category.

Posted by: sfsj | May 25, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

It is the proces….. the process has been denigrated. The DRC has engaged in gamemanship to push Obama. Doesn’t anyone wonder how he came to rise so quickly —- he has been the puppet of the powerful in the DRC. People should wake up and realize that those in power are pushing for what they want. The DRC knows they can control Obama — he is a sell out. Just as he has sold his sould to whomever and whatever would get him to the next step in his goal to be President. He isn’t for the people… he isn’t representing the people…. he is elitist and out of touch…. he is naive and unqualified to lead.

Posted by: David | May 25, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

I too have done research on Obama and I agree there is some very disturbing things in his past. Hillary can’y bring out the real dirt in case he is the nominee and they have to campaign for him. However the republicans already know all there is to know and will use it at every turn. Obama is not electible. Some of the polls Bill Clinton is quoting can be found at rcp polls in the head to head by state section.

Posted by: maryintampa | May 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Hillary Clinton is not running for president. She is running to dupe donors into making up her $20 million campaign debt … $11.4 million of which WAS her own money.
Somehow I don’t see her as a fiscally responsible president.
But that point is moot anyway.

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

What EXACTLY are the preconditions that everyone wants foreign leaders to meet before Obama talks to them?…and how elitist is that??? “I refuse to talk to you until you (fill in the blank).” You can always talk to someone…you don’t have to agree with them…and you certainly don’t have to cater to them.
Sometimes, a lack of conversation can make problems worse.

Posted by: Justme | May 25, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

I believe the Clintons are fond of saying they are in this “until the last dog dies” and dogs they are. They keep blowing the dog whistles that decent people can’t or don’t want to hear but we would do well to listen. They have blown the dog whistle of racial politics and continue to fan the flames of bigotry and racism in hopes of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that will deter decent white Americans from voting for Senator Obama. In the same vein, Hillary is now blowing the dog whistle of assassination in hopes that one of her racist white supporters who may be so inclined will heed her call. They have shown us over and over again their true nature and yet we do not want to believe what we are seeing. Decent white Americans continue to give her the benefit of the doubt for all of the terrible things she has said and done, excusing her vile conduct by stating that she has nothing to gain politically by her actions so we must have misinterpreted her intent or meaning. Hillary Clinton is not worthy of the nomination, or a place in an Obama administration, or even to be elected Dog Catcher. She is the dog that needs to be caught, and in terms of this election, put down to stem the spread of her rabid vitriol.

Posted by: Grace in Orlando, FL | May 25, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

l213 Obama’s policies he is promoting are for children like you who need a parent to take care of them and tell you what to do.
(1) Reduce our freedom and raise our taxes “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said. “That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.” — Barack Obama
(2) Endanger our sovereignty
Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution asthey see fit, for “food” to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with theUN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control.
(3) Intentionally and dramatically weakening the United States military in an increasingly dangerous world.:These are Barack Obama’s own statements below:”First, I’ll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.I will not weaponize space.I will slow our development of future combat systems.And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production
(4) Increase Disunity: Obama’s words: “White folks greed runs a world in need” plus Obama’s association with: Rev. Wright “God D### America”, Rev. Meeks, Bill Ayers, Raila Odinga* Rabidly anti-Israel Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi., etc.
Obama has the mind of a CHILD Obama feels that all the US has to do to stay safe in the world is to talk, without preconditions, to heads of governments that hate our guts.Obama’s foreign policy in a nut shell: “Talk is precious, action is cheap.”Obama is a very, very dangerous man. America must remain strong militarily. Period or rue the day.

Posted by: Sara | May 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

From marc Rudin:
The news media who has been in the tank for Obama in probably the most dishonest and biased coverage of an electoral process in history, accuses her of low tactics if she defends herself. Party elders who, if nothing else, have shown since 1996 they haven’t a clue as to how to win a Presidential election, admonish her not to do anything that would damage the Democrats chances in the fall. Howard Dean, more afraid of not losing than making sure the Democrats win by sending out the most electable and qualified candidate, keeps talking about putting an end to race before its over. And Obama seeing that Clinton has one hand tied behind her back, has taken full advantage, taking his swings when he can, then playing victim if Clinton hits back.
This has been a race where Clinton has been running with 150 lbs on her back and Obama 110. And even with all that she is now in a position to win.

Posted by: greenfun | May 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

No one has asked Hillary to leave for quite some time. They only claim this because it gets her strongest supporters angry.
The media has tip toed around her and pretended like her campaign was still viable for weeks now, even though the math has been against her since February.
I understand Bill and Hillary are the best when it comes to media manipulation but let’s face facts. The only one’s I have heard calling for her to quit are her own supporters. She is the one who just keeps on making stupid comments and then never apologizing and spinning it around on the other guy.
You have all been manipulated by the very best.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 25, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Has anyone noticed how Bill looks more and more like he has been drinking too much? Maybe that is why he rants and flip flops so much?
——————-
He doesn’t flip flop flip as much as McCain!

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

I think his legacy has vanish. . He is no longer the beloved president. Hillary is a cold soul. I really belive that she will do anything to get elected. Hillary is acting just like Tonaya harding. Sadly she will destroy the party and will no think anything to it. Hillary is not winning the popular vote..Shes loosing the delagate count. She is falling way behind in the National democratic nominee poll…Shes down by 9 points. Barack is winnig in Ohio, PA, CA agaist McCain. So everything Bill is saying is full of it.

Posted by: Mary Helen colbert | May 25, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

HE IS CORRECT!!!!!!! MAJOR NEWS STATIONS HAVE BECOME BIASED…. OBAMA CAN NOT WIN… WAKE UP DEMOCRATS… WE DONT NEED ANOTHER KERRY OR GORE!!!

Posted by: jeremy | May 25, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Isn’t the whole point of a primary to knock the other participants out of the race? Isn’t the whole point that there is one left at the end?
When has there been a primary where the end result was two or more nominees?
Quit crying, shut up and compete.

Posted by: Stephen (Seattle, WA) | May 25, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

These people Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton NEVER, EVER take any responsibility for their behaviour.
Both of them open their BIG MOUTHS say the things they say, then blame the media and everyone else for actually listening, and hearing the words.
Wasn’t it Hillary Clinton who made the comment about “assasination” IN FRONT OF THE MEDIA. Se did it TWICE (to TIME MAGAZINE in March, and on FRIDAY to the directly to a group of reporters). The media reports what she says, and Hillary gets upset. That is so moronic!!! She is so moronic!! If she hates the media so much why was she talking to them in the first place. Why is she giving press conferences. NOBODY TOLD HER TO SAY WHAT SHE DID, IT CAME OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH.
Hillary, and Bill NEVER ever take any responsibility for their behaviour, they are a disgrace, two adults who act like children when they get called on their bad behaviour.
Hillary, and Bill two of a kind, disgusting liars, and manipulators, bothof them truly deserve each other.

Posted by: KEVIN | May 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

There is no comparison in these two candidates integrity and class.
Just watch Obama giving the 2008 class speech at Wesleyan to the next generation.
Compare that to either Clinton’s “me me me” and whining/blaming everyone.

Posted by: Valerie | May 25, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Initially I was a Hillary supporter, I contributed a few hundred dollars to her campaign. But this is not about her. It is about the Democratic Party and what is the best way for that party to retake the White House. Hillary is right some Dem primary campaigns have gone on past June, and usually those campaigns are the ones the Dems destroy themselves. Her comments about the RFK assassination in June ’68 are beyond the pale of acceptable comments. She should leave the assassination comments to Bubba Huckabee and Faux Fox News. Hill it’s time to go!. The time to go with grace and dignity was about 3 weeks ago. It’s now just time to go!

Posted by: MARTinNJ | May 25, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

If John McCain belonged to a country club that excluded blacks and Jews, he would be villified, and justifiably so. There is no difference between such a membership and BO’s pastor affiliation. Yet he gets a pass. After Hillary is set aside, the Democrats will have no way to escape this argument. They will be crushed in November.

Posted by: daw | May 25, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Some here are in the Mesozoic of politics, the dinosaur age and think that Obama is a Muslim.
Others are in the Pleistocene ice ages, and think that Hillary Clinton still stands a chance at the Democratic nomination.
And those of us in the present realize that it will be a good race between Obama and McCain, but that Obama will dominate our future … preferably for the next eight years as president.

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

The Clintons and her supporters have become downright DELUSIONAL! This is embarassing!

Posted by: Daniel | May 25, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

s4bo:
Hillary took action to relieve high gas prices by proposing suspending the gas tax. Obama smeared her, and called it “pandering”. Now Obama conveniently is wearing a flag pin after the controversy of not wearing one earlier. Talk about pandering.
Obama is a hypocrite and disgrace.

Posted by: Pat | May 25, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Moderate DEMS ie; those supporting Clinton will vote for McCain, and moderate Reps would vote for Clinton its easy to do the math, Obama will never win in the general election(LOOK AT THE POLLS) so folks say hello to President John S McCain in just 6 short months…

Posted by: Mark | May 25, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

When you respect people you earn their respect.
When you disrespect people you earn their disrespect.
So Hillary is felling disrespected. Maybe she should start respecting people by telling the truth for starters.

Posted by: carl ball | May 25, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

God, it will be nice to say goodbye to the Clintons and their incessant whining. This campaign is becoming a sad joke. It is about the delegates, Bill.

Posted by: Chuck | May 25, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

This site is too slow to regenerate, but too fast for rational discussion.
I boycotted ABC after they blew the presidential debate in PA with fluff questions. That debate alone turned my kids off politics … even at ages 9 and 12, they were looking for more substance.
Nothing has improved at ABC. Goodbye, again.

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

hillary4change,
Your threatened support for McCain has nothing to do with Obama. Clinton has infected you all with her sickness: “If I can’t be the next Democratic President, NO ONE WILL!”
We have a word for people like that. They’re called “narcissists.” People who crave power to the destruction of all else are called “megalomaniacs.” Your candidate has a messiannic delusion, but she’s bound and determined to take the party down with her.
Stop making excuses and blaming this on the guy staying in this because he’s in the lead. Your candidate jumped the shark with the RFK remark, and it’ll cost her. If she’s cares one iota about the party, she’ll stop with all of the self-pity and do what needs to be done to put a Democrat in the White house.

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 25, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

You know last week I was beginning to warm-up to the idea of Hillary being on the ticket with Obama. I wasn’t crazy about one darn bit, but was willing to support it nothing the less. Then along came Friday and the word [asassination] out of Hillary Clinton’s mouth. Stick a fork in me, I’m done with that notion. Not a snowballs chance in [h.e.double hockey sticks] would I ever vote for that ticket. As an Independent, I will sit at home and let ‘God’ straighten it out. Not it’s the left wing conspiracy of the media against them. Back when they were in office it was the ‘right wing’ conspiracy against them. What type of Koolaid are these people drinking here. They have destroyed their political capital in the party, and I personally don’t think it will ever be the same for the Clinton’s going forward. Hillary was beaten fair and square and their embarrased.

Posted by: dee | May 25, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Give us a break Bill!!
You’ve got to be kidding… I am sick to death of hearing what a victim Hillary is…
You have both behaved despicably. You have given me every reason to feel disgusted with both of you and at this point I will fight to keep Hillary off of the ticket and out of the white house. I do not want to be accountable with what you will do with the power based on how you have run this campaign.
I feel the opposite… I feel that we have bent over backwards being ‘nice’ to you and Hillary and you have not been attacked on so many fronts that your are vulnerable on…
It has been an easy ride…. I am through trying to figure out why people are supporting Hillary. I feel that maybe they would benefit from taking alook at why so many of us support Senator Obama…
I am a caucasian, 44 yr old woman, never had much money, raised a daughter on my own… and I feel Hillary is a poor example for women in power. She demonstrates poor judgement, poor charachter, and a lack of integrity which is what we always seem to end up with in our politicians…
Right now my hopes are riding on something different… something I always long for… a leader with good judgement, wisdom, ethics, inetgrity…
I am looking forward to having a president like Senator Obama

Posted by: lb | May 25, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Obama should be ashamed of himself. It is Memorial Day Weekend and in the Wesleyan Commencement Address Obama gave in Connecticut, I did not hear one word of thanks by Obama for the service of the United States Veterans and those lost fighting for our freedom. I fear for our Nation if a man such as Obama is elected to the highest office of our land. A man who is so ungrateful for the service and lives given by our brave armed service men and women who keep the peace and protect us all here at home.

Posted by: Mary | May 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

I am left speechless by the “free” pass that OBAMA has been given. I don’t think the media realizes what POTUS entails.
GO HILLARY, 2008.

Posted by: mj | May 25, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

I don’t think either has had a free ride from the media. It appears to me the media has decided they get more/better airtime if they play up the “animosity” between the camps. The media finds the black man against white woman is easy copy for themselves. It sells papers,airspace and advertising time. As such, when Obama has made a mistake ( or more often when an acquaintance of his makes a mistake) the media has run with that for all it is worth, pushing and leading the Clinton camp for anything that can be misconstrued as belittling Obama. When Hillary ( or usually Bill) has made a mistake, the media are all over the Obama camp trying to get them to say something the media can portray as inflamatory. I’ll be interested to see if the media plays the same game when it’s a young black man against an old white guy, You’re being played people , and mostly the people you’re getting the most upset at are not those that are orchestrating the opera. The most agitated at the moment are the hillary supporters who are looking for someone to blame for their heros demise. The media (and repubs) had a little to do with it, they tried to give Obama a hand up to make the seemingly insurmountable lead she had a little less insurmountable, it was too good a story for the media to let die early. But the biggest problem was the Clinton campaigns poor organization. Anyone that thinks she has “the experience” to lead from day one, look at the shambles they made of what should have been a walk in the park for her. The “Clinton” machine, close links to all the king makers, brand recognition, a huge lead. You wouldn’t/shouldn’t trust her team to run a bath let alone a country. To whine that Obama somehow played dirty by understanding the primary process better is assinine. Who better than the Clintons, who helped set up the process to understand it. To complain about the FL+MI votes being disallowed, when it was people in Hillary’s campaign that were heavily involved in the committee that decided the penalties just highlights the bungling nature of their campaign. This recent “assassination” debacle is just the icing on the cake. Like a punch drunk boxer her corner should throw in the towel to save her from further punishment. And for god’s sake people, the only way that it can be claimed Hillary has more “votes” than Obama is by counting ALL her Fl+Mi votes that have been disallowed AND not give Obama ANY votes in MI (when his name was not on the ballot) AND not count any population on those states decided by caucuses. I know the last act of a drowning delegate is to grasp at straws but GET REAL !! . She tried, she gave it her best,she did better than any woman in history, her best wasn’t good enough. Anyone that thinks she has a shot in 2012 if Obama loses, is as deluded about that as they are that Hillary will win the nomination. As “Sohappyabout toast” says, even if it’s not true, should Obama lose the GE it will be blamed on bitter vindictive Hillary supporter. The DNC and the majority of the rank and file Dem supporter in general will not support her candidacy (indeed I believe it will set back any future woman candidate if it is felt that a feminist backlash will result if the woman candidate loses. In particular the African American population will hold the grudge to their graves that an African American was denied his rightful place as President out of spite. There will be no second shot at history for Hillary, this was it, and it’s over.

Posted by: vernonwerge | May 25, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Everyone is just piling on Hillary. I thinks it is pure sexism, racism, politically incorrect-ism; you can’t say that-ism, you hurt my feelings-ism, I’m sorry-ism, old age-ism; black-ism, Hispanic-ism, Asian-ism, gay-ism, illegal alien-ism, aliens from another planet-ism, show your feminine side-ism; show your masculine side-ism, you show me yours and I’ll show you mine-ism. Anyone have any extra isms they want to contribute?

Posted by: Politically correct dude | May 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

As someone said, it’s all about the delegates. Problem is, the process seems to be fixed in the Democratic Party. Big state after state goes for Clinton and the elected officials ignore their constituents and go with Obama. Mass. goes for Clinton and Kerry and Kennedy go for BO. Pa. goes for Clinton and Senator Casey goes for BO. WV goes for Clinton by 41% and Senator Byrd turns around a few days later and goes to BO. It looks like we’ll have to take out our frustration in November.

Posted by: beo | May 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Yaaawwnnn! Same ol’ tired politics.
If she can’t win, she will steal it.
If you argue that it’s the popular vote, I suggest you go back to your Jr. High Civics teacher and ask them why we have Delegates electing the President instead of the popular vote. He/she will tell you that the reason for the delegate is so that smaller communities can stay in touch with the election process. Otherwise, Chicago, New York, L.A. and all the other large cities in America would elect the President and those that are located in rural areas really wouldn’t have a say in who becomes the next POTUS.
If you win 33 states to 17 elections and the votes are still as close as they are today, it goes to show that the smaller communities are really having an effect on this primary election. The will of the country is being served. I just can’t imagine nominating a person who wins 17 of 50 (to date) elections when the opponent wins 33 of 50. It would show that the best interest of the country would be best served in the largest cities of the U.S.
Mary…I am a Marine Corps Vet. While giving a speech at a college commencement, he didn’t say thanks to the vets? Talk about pandering. there will be a time for him to commnent and give his moment to the vets but a college commencement isn’t exactly the place.

Posted by: Steve McKenney | May 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

She’s not being treated disrespectfully at all. It’s no one’s fault but her own that she had no strategy past Super Tuesday. This thing has been over since Wisconsin… the only purpose she’s serving now is to cause as much chaos in the party as she can.

Posted by: Just Me | May 25, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Hillary once said she is the one who run her campaine, not quite sure if she is still.. God can she tell her BILL to shut up and stop whining for her.. he is the one to blame for her loss, he is the distraction from star.. just look at the damage and wounds he create during this primaries.. stop whining and go back to broklin bill.

Posted by: mohsin | May 25, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

GET A GRIP:
Broke voters asked Hillary to repeal the gas tax. Maybe you can afford the high gas prices but many of us hard working people cannot. Hillary felt our pain and proposed a temporary solution, in concert with a long-term solution. What did Obama offer? Obama said screw you and called us bitter.
And Obama’s sudden change of position over the flag pin was blatant pandering, regardless of the “excuse” spun by his campaign.

Posted by: Pat | May 25, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Hey Bubba,
Weren’t you the one saying something to the effect “politics is a contact sport…if you can’t take a hit, then you shouldn’t be in it…”
What’s astounding is your audacity to blame the Obama camp for Hillary’s statement and comparing the sexism that is supposedly keeping her from winning the nomination.
If you want to be so reflective, what about all the death threats and the racism towards Obama that is unprecedented than in any presedential campaign?

Posted by: bazokbros | May 25, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Chicago: You never heard so many lies? Try this. Wright is my mentor, he was never my mentor. I never heard him say that, I heard him say that but didn’t agree. I could not disown him, ok, I disown him. The Kennedys’airlifted my father, ok they didn’t. I don’t know Ayers, ok I do. Should we go on with this.

Posted by: bb | May 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

I am left speechless by the “free” pass that OBAMA has been given. I don’t think the media realizes what POTUS entails.
GO HILLARY, 2008.
———————
Have you a slinky as a backbone?
Have you no cognizance of the Obama candidacy which is inevitable?
Perhaps you should look up his policies, because by all poll measures now,Obama will be what you call “POTUS.”
The rest of us will call him “Mr. President,” and the military will call him “Commander-in-Chief.”

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

I always like seeing how Clinton supporters say that she is more electable then Obama. If she was more electable, she would be winning. Furthermore, it does not say anywhere in the constitution that people have the right to vote in a party primary. Thirdly, we have rules for a reason. Both candidates were aware of the DNC rules. Both agreed to the rules. I’m having a hard time understanding what the problem is with this.
Oh Bill, if your worried so much about wife being direspected, maybe next time you shouldn’t get a BJ from an intern in the oval office. Just a thought.

Posted by: logicalthinker | May 25, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Who is this fool talking about? Who is pressuring her to get out? Everyone has said she can stay in as long as she wants–unless she keeps make assassination references.

Posted by: Just a Voter | May 25, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Hillary supporters who won’t vote for Obama
=====================================
I have a message for you.
No past president won every vote in america.
Obama will win even without those of you who refuse to reason with their brains.
You know the truth but are deliberately pretending. Why all this crap about Obama being moslem, rev wright, ayers etc.
Many of you have associated with people who hold different views, or people who committed crimes in your own lives without changing your own ways.
You guys keep talking out of your sentiments like kids.

Posted by: CommonSense | May 25, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

I agree with Pete Rend. The Democrats are in the process of self-destructing, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. I personally agree that Hillary would likely beat McCain in a general election; however, Obama is on the verge of winning the Democratic nomination fair and square. Bill Clinton was a very good president, but his latest comments sound like sour graphs. Hillary had her chance, started as the front-runner, had a good run and, well, just fell short.

Posted by: Bob Eskew | May 25, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

HillaryMccain, what are you talking about. Hillary and Obama have the same policies because those are the policies of the dems. You really think Hillary just made them up on her own. You can’t be serious.

Posted by: lisa | May 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

bill clinton is right. this is the closest primary ever and the only one where one of the candidates is being pressed to withdraw. obama has lost 7 of the last 9, some by overwhelming numbers. it’s 2000 all over again — pick the person who lost the popular vote, by not counting FL.
the dem leadership wanted her out before PA, TX, OH, RI, WVA, Indiana, and KY so no one could see that the emperor has no clothes. there’s never been a winning candidate that has lost the overwhelming majority of the closing primaries.
DEM voters are voting and they are rejecting Obama, you can spin it however you want but the facts are the facts.

Posted by: jrterrier | May 25, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Just a few simple questions for the Senator Clinton supportors so we can get this show on the road:
1) Please let us know what states count. The Obamaa suppoters really hate that we won wom that don’t count.
2) Similiary, in those states that count, what voters count. I would hate to actually count a vote from someone that you guys don’t think counts.
3) And why is it exactly is it that you see the Obama supporters as elitists?

Posted by: jmengate | May 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

the only reason all these republicans are pro hillary is because obama will kick gramps-MCcains butt in the fall.
all us tru democrats will vote for our candidate—not a warmongering republican.

Posted by: rodney | May 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

I’ve always liked Bill Clinton, so this is really sad to see him saying such irrational things. I liked Hillary too, until she went negative.

Posted by: MEklund | May 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Does anyone know why Michelle Obama is sooooooooooo angry? She is the most unhappy millionaire I have ever seen.
—————————-
I’d be angry if my spouse’s opponent as presidential candidate made an explicit remark to RFK’s “assassination.”
I rember when that happened. It was tragic and very sad.
Clinton’s reference to isn’t tragic, but is very, very sad.
/

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Give me a break!! I am so sick and tired of Bill and Hillary Clinton whining and complaining and trying to change the rules and being so destructive to the Democratic Party. Get over it!! In a political process one person wins and one loses and she lost-period!! The popular vote doesn’t decide the nominee and she only gets that if you count both Florida and Michigan-Obama got 0 votes in Michigan but do they care? Of course not, they just want to win no matter what they have to say or do to do it. They are delusional and frankly I wonder about their mental health and that of some of their closest supporters. Get over it. She lost and it is nobodies fault but her own. Maybe is she would of been more positive instead of blaming everyone and everything all the time, she might have done better. Oh and it would help if she didn’t lie so much. We already have a liar in the White House-don’t need another one.

Posted by: Dee777 | May 25, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Hillary and McCain supporters:
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don’t

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 25, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Obama supporters are elitist.

Posted by: Steven | May 25, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Susan – Ok, do you have any daisy fields around? Now be serious, did you just say that because you’re trying to hit on me? :)

Posted by: jmengate | May 25, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

Wow… No words left for the clintons and how it’s always everyone elses fault. Bless them…

Posted by: Let's Be Real For A Minute | May 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Doreen, excellent research. Thank You. You need to remind people that KERRY LOST in 2004 and DaschleLOST in 2006 both are losers. Their avoidance of standing up to your opponent has been taught to weak Obama. He is a FRAUD and SCARED of a debate.What a wuss! He would be scared to talk to any leader of any country. YOU AND I KNOW IT>///////
The good ole boys of the democratic party (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, etc.) propped Obama up 4 years ago to take on Hillary when they made Obama the keynote speaker at the democratic convention. The good ole boys then got Obama savvy political operatives (Axelrod) adn used their good ole boys mchine to compete against Hillary. The good ole boys along with the pro-Obama media (Axelrod’s brother is a bigshot in the media scene) the began character assassinating Hillary on a daily basis, twisted and jumped down her throat on everything she did and said. They have also strategically blocked her rightfully earned wins in Florida and Michigan, because, with those wins, she would have defeated Obama. Then Obama and his cronies blocked any new primaries from being conducted in Florida and Michigan because the polls showed that Hillary would defeat Obama by even a wider blowout than she did in January. That whole thing about Florida and Michigan is totally corrupt. Also Hillary abided by the rules and did not campaign in Florida and Michigan; however, she never said that the votes should not count. In addition, Obama strategically took his name off the ballot in Michigan because he knew Hillary was going to blow him out in Michigan and he then pushed very hard for the people of Michigan to vote “uncommitted” but Hillary still blew Obama (“uncommitted”) out in Michigan. In addition, Obama broke the rules in Florida and ran TV ads just before the primary but Hillary blew him out in Florida anyway. I call on Hillary to run as an independent, like Joe Lieberman did in Connecticut when the good ole boys screwed him. If Hillary does not run as an independent, I then call on all Hillary supporters to vote for McCain; however, still vote for democrats in the congressional races. The good ole boys and the pro-Obama media need to be taught a lesson once and for all.
Posted by: Doreen

Posted by: Martha | May 25, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

bhrandon – I can certainly answer that. NA women. Or even an NA man. I know exactly the last one of the Nations that held an elected position. Gee. Want some cheese with your whine?

Posted by: Skyebeader | May 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

jmengate, um, ah, um, well a, you’re a man? You write like a women.

Posted by: Susan | May 25, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Your headline initially reads” BIlls Blows up ….” But, then your story starts with “Bill Clinton spent more than six minutes calmly discussing what he called a “frantic effort to push her out” of this race, saying that no one asked Ted Kennedy, Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart to end their presidential campaigns early.”
How bias are you?! Why use the term “Blow up” then “calm” in the same page? ABC is bias! Period. ABC sounds more and more like an “Obamanation.”!

Posted by: LCI | May 25, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

uncle_hagee_hoggie,
Here’s an introductory course for you on the media. You are correct in your claim that the media is owned by multinational corporations. But business doesn’t necessarily always benefit from neoconservative legislation, so they hedge their bets on both sides. Essentially, the net result of this is that you have Fox News on the right and MSNBC on the left, and CNN tries to prove their objectivity by having Lou Dobbs and John King on the same network.
Now then, Clinton has been praising Fox News. Like WHY HILLARY CAN’T WIN IN NOVEMBER said, all Fox News has to do if she gets the nomination is trash her – accusing her of murder, like they have been, for example – and then play back the many recordings of her fawning over the fairness of Fox News. It was so reckless, it must have been thought of by Mark Penn.
There is a vast right-wing conspiracy against the Clintons – Fox News – which is why it makes no sense that she praised them like she did.

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 25, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Another thing…why is it that the media didn’t go after and expose Barack’s dirty laundry until well after he was a mile ahead in delegates…?
Ever since Barack has been EXPOSED, Hillary Clinton has been kicking his butt in all but a couple of states.
And…for all those who were PISSED OFF in 2000 when Al Gore got cheated out of Florida votes…it is ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC that you could support a candidate who made DAMN SURE behind the scenes to stop a REVOTE while saying how he was a “different candidate” and “a uniter of the people”.
Barack is liar….and….I seriously question where he continues to receive record funding despite losing the majority of the past 10 states AND from a target support group that includes college students and one of the country’s lowest social economic classes… black Americans…?
Yeah…not possible rich oil muslim backing here!

Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Susan – lmao, sorry, got forced to see a chick flick last night. Must still be impacting me haa haa!

Posted by: jmengate | May 25, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

Your lead title on the main website is that “Bill blows up” then in the first sentence of the article the reporter writes “calm voice”, so what is it? Does Bill really “blow up” or does he states his case in a “calm voice”? ABC is so bias, I have to stop reading you.

Posted by: LCI | May 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

I have never seen a candidate (and her husband) do more whining and complaining. They lost because they deserved to lose. They lost because it is over for them and they failed to recognize that. They lost because they have no grace or class left. Indeed, that is why they have failed to take their leave. They completely lack grace and class.

Posted by: Mike | May 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

One day the media will turn on Obama. Hopefully it will start this week when Tony Rezko get convicted on 24 counts.

Posted by: Tia | May 25, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

obamabreaker, get real. It’s the same thing with Hillary supporters. They call Obama on his every word.

Posted by: d | May 25, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

hillary will surely find out that like a dog you can only chase your tail for so long–amd find out it is out of reach

Posted by: rodney | May 25, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

jmengate–
Don’t you find it odd that a so-called feminist would try to insult you by saying you write like a woman?

Posted by: KEEP IT REAL | May 25, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Mike – I a agree with you, but I think there’s one other aspect. Senator Clinton was presumtive nominee and her advisors ran a bad campaign.

Posted by: jmengate | May 25, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

G.W. Bush accomplished the one thing Bill Clinton could not:
He made the Clinton administration look good.
Obama ’08 ’12

Posted by: Mokopane | May 25, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Q. Where did Obama get his money?
A. From over two million donors.

Posted by: Madame Defarge | May 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

He is absoultely right. Not only she had to run against Obama but the DNC and the media. It’s a disgrace. Obama will never get my vote or anyone else in my family. We will vote for McCain, he is someone we can respect and moderate enought for us.

Posted by: anne white | May 25, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

John McCain is a Celebrity
Barack Obama is a Scholar
HilLIARy Clinton is a Professional Victim

Posted by: Gerry | May 25, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Michael,
You call Obama a liar, though you don’t bother citing any specific examples.
I refer you to a previous post about a lie that the Clintons managed to bury during the Indiana primary:
Attention Clintonites,
” . . .the Ken Starr “conspiracy” that the Clintons talk about was the best thing that could have happened to them. The sale of the Indiana-based Defense contractor, Magnequench put secret weapons technology into the hands of the Chinese – our cold war enemy.
While Clinton continues to whine about how unfair the media has been to his wife, he might consider thanking them: the national media, including MSNBC buried the story of Magnequench during the Indiana primaries – right when Hillary was pretending to buddy up to the working class, whose jobs her husband sent to China.
But again, don’t take my word for it.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257
Keep to the facts, neophite

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 25, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

anne white, you are a senior that strongly wants a woman pres and because of that you would never vote for Obama. So you seem to think that he has stolen it from her. Sorry, I don’t like Hillary. I think she is a liar and and has used her sex to get votes. It’s truly disturbing that she would do that.

Posted by: d | May 25, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

moeen exactly what i did–glad to see that i was not the only one decieved

Posted by: rodney | May 25, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Donna, the fact you Obama supporters have to make up accomplishments for Obama is pathetic. As to Obama’s so called Universal Health Care accomplishment in Illinois see below{
Obama’s Iowa victory speech per the Daily Herald,
“I’ll be a president who finally makes health care affordable and available to every single American, the same way I expanded health care in Illinois, by bringing Democrats and Republicans together to get the job done,” the Chicago Democrat said Thursday.
But Illinois doesn’t have universal health care.
And a classic from Sen Righter,
Still, Obama’s quote raised eyebrows given the lingering tension over the direction of health care policy in Illinois, although few lawmakers were willing to go on the record with any criticism.
One former colleague willing to talk was state Sen. Dale Righter, a Mattoon Republican, who thought Obama stretched the truth.
“He didn’t put together universal health care in Illinois,” Righter said. “The best evidence of that is that we don’t have universal health care in Illinois.”
As to the other bills you mentioned in the Illinois Senate that Obama got credit for. Obama did not work on them. Here’s the real scoop:
Obama’s accomplishments in the state Senate for 6 years was zero. Obama spent his time getting into the good graces of people like Rezko and Ayres in order to financially benefit his future in politics. When Obama asked Emil Jones to make him a federal Senator than Obama started to show some accomplishments. However, those accomplishments included Emil Jones, President of the Illinois state Senate, appointing Obama the head of every piece of high-profile legislation in sight to pad his resume. Jones aside all the senior state senators who had been working on bills for years and gave the credit to Obama by naming Obama as sponsor. Bottom line after six years of doing nothing in the Obama’s 7th and final year as a state Senator, his record went from zero accomplishments to being falsely credited for the sponsorship of 26 passed bills. None of which Obama worked on or fought for!
This is what Obama is doing in the US Senate as well, look at his record, it is zero. Except of course, when it comes to getting earmarks for his wife’s employer passed for the University of Chicago Hospitals, where Michelle Obama was vice president of community affairs. Michelle had already benefited when her salary went to $316,962 in 2005 just after Obama took office.
Obama supporters are either a bunch of clueless useful idiots or just plain liars.

Posted by: Rosemary | May 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

whine………..
blame………..
victim……….
Good try Bill Clinton. But it is actually the VOTERS who are being disrespected by you and Hillay Clinton.
The Clintons really have a problem with US, the voters, who put Obama in the lead position he is in. But they won’t come out and say that because they don’t want the backlash. Instead they blame Obama because that is an easy target and attempts to stir up all kinds of fears by trying to pit whites against blacks, young against old, women against men, college graduates against high school graduates, rich against poor.
The Clintons cannot believe that many voters selected someone else and NOT THEM. Their message to us the voters is: ‘how dare you choose him over us’ , ‘you don’t really mean it’, ‘you made a mistake now let us step in and correct it’, you are not qualified to make such an important decision, so let us handle it and reverse your vote’.
Earth to Bill and Hillary Clinton: Stop. Our decision stands and we don’t need any assistance from the Clintons. Just stop.

Posted by: soho | May 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

Who else thinks the Clintons are desperate ????? They are the lowest of canidates ever to run for office. No wonder Bill was impeached……..he is really a rotten piece of work!!!
They really need to get Hillary in the Whitehouse….maybe they have new pardons to sell, or new ways to sell out the American people….they got away with it in the past and they will try again if they ever got the oppertunity.
1st Hillary says there is “NO WAY” she would ever consider being anything but “PRESIDENT”….now her and Bill are begging for the VP Spot! Go Figure. I just hope OBAMA isn’t stupid enough to put her on the his ticket…..that would be handing McCain a free pass to the Presidency…….

Posted by: DavePeck | May 25, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

It’s all rigged. Clintons are just following their map to increasingly more political power– perhaps in a more “world”ly setting. Obama in ’09– guaranteed.

Posted by: Judy | May 25, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Well…the polls Bill is talking about…the ones with HRC at 300 electoral votes…Chelsea did the polling. The Clintons have also decided that their campaign is not in debt and have allocated themselves the rest of the superdelegates. Why? They are the Clintons.

Posted by: gerald | May 25, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

This was not the first time Hilary made a outrageously inappropriate threatening bias remark. This time we caught it. Does Bill and Hilary handle everyone by threatening them? The man Hilary had an affair with, supposedly committed suicide. Those who don’t believe it need to look it up. She knew what she was saying and who she was directing it too. Bill and Hilary need to go. That will give you more time to focus on the trial of someone donating millions to Hilary’s campaign in exchange for a deal he made with Bill. Look it up. They delayed her testifying while she runs for president. How crazy is that???

Posted by: Smarter than that | May 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Aren’t we all tired of the Clinton Road SHow yet? Are they still around? Bill CLinton has embarassed himself and his wife’s campaign. He is the joke. Hillary uses her sex when it suits her and uses to cry for sympathy. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Why is your husband fighting ALL your battles? Save your pride and go out with some dignity Hillary. Woman NOT for Hillary

Posted by: Lena | May 25, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Why do the Clinton’s want the white house so badly? So they can go after their perceived enemies, or dole out Billion dollar contracts to cronies like Carville, and Mark Penn.

Posted by: jg08091 | May 25, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

A lot of people don’t like Bill and Hillary. Yes she could win the White House, but that’s not the point. The point is that more people support Obama at this time.
So the media and others have pressured her to leave. Does she really need her husband to protect her? Isn’t she a big girl if she’s trying to run for office?
How can a perpetual victim make good decisions in the White House? Will she need Bill to protect her then too?
These are the questions that come to mind after reading this.

Posted by: krm1255 | May 25, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

moeen
most people on this site seem to have no knowledge of clintons sorted past —both he and she

Posted by: rodney | May 25, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

The sweetie comment! Get over it! Hmmmmm! Obama must call his own girls Sweetie several times a day. I admire the fact he has the word in his vocabulary.It beats Hillary’s racist comments AND NO REGARD FOR HER OWN SELF RESPECT.I don’t know who this woman is anymore! McCain with his my Friends I am not his friend and I never want to be.With friends like that who needs enemy’s!That would be the day he would be our friend.Wait until he brings the draft back! Oh and we can’t forget all of GEORGE BUSHES blunders in every way Why are you all not Marching in the streets for change!Soon that is all we will be able to do because we will not be driving!George Bushes retirement package! George Bush oil sheik!I believe he is causing the energy prices to go up so we will all be relieved when McCain says we won the war the oil is mine.I am going to share it with you my friends.Wake up and smell the roses Sweeties!
OBAMA 08

Posted by: princes | May 26, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

So many pathetic HRC supporters. So funny how they think they can pull a fast one in the next few weeks and somehow get HRC the nomination. They are completley delusional and dysfunctional. They can’t face facts she has LOST. She can’t make up the delegate difference! Oh, thats right, democratic party runs it with delegate count, NOT total popular vote. Guess they missed that part of the memo. HRC folks are total Jack A$$s.

Posted by: Pete Rend | May 26, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

HillaryMcCain08–
60% of the democratic party will either write Hill in or vote McCain?????
Primary contest polls reflect nothing when it comes to the general. If they did, Bill would have lost in 1992, he was way down in the polls in the spring of 1992.
LMFAO.

Posted by: Hold on there Spanky | May 26, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

Why is June 4th so special? Because thats when we get to the real fight and BRING THE WOOD TO MCZOMBIE.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 26, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Clinton is right. I am one of those voter who is willing to vote Democrat in this general election if Hillary Clinton is the nominee. I like those Clinton years. If no Clinton, I don’t know why we would vote Democrat this year. John McCain is my second choice.

Posted by: Joe from OH | May 26, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

So many pathetic HRC supporters. So funny how they think they can pull a fast one in the next few weeks and somehow get HRC the nomination. They are completley delusional and dysfunctional. They can’t face facts she has LOST. She can’t make up the delegate difference! Oh, thats right, democratic party runs it with delegate count, NOT total popular vote. Guess they missed that part of the memo. HRC folks are total Jack A$$s.
Quit your whining you HRC LOSERS…

Posted by: Pete Rend | May 26, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Bill is absolutely right!!!!

Posted by: tiger | May 26, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

This thing is over, Bill.
At this point you’ve not just killed your legacy, you’re digging it up so you can kill it twice. Unsightly, but kind of fun to watch.
By the way, Obama will have no problem beating the formerly good man Rove turned into a soulless zombie in 2000. McCain had the nerve this last week to vote against Obama and the Democrats’ GI Bill amendments giving soldiers generous college assistance benefits. Worse, he actually stated as his reason for doing so that TOO MANY SOLDIERS WOULD GO TO COLLEGE AND NOT REENLIST!
Apparently we are to HONOR our troops, but not COMPENSATE them too much, lest we run short of cannon fodder.
The neocons do not have the stones to bring back the draft and make their precious little lads carry the water. Kind of shows McCain’s gratuitous Senate floor remark about Obama’s shirking his responsibility to serve in the military to be the low class little boy potty mouth talk it is.
The public is now awake. McCain is going to lose big in November, and the shockwaves from the downticket slaughter will be felt for at least a decade.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 26, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

JUST THINK
Before long all you Clinton-haters will be snuggling up to her supporters like the best of friends. You’ll laugh and say it was only an innocent game but everyone needs to hang together to defeat Satan and prevent Armageddon.
Hypocrites?
Posted by: T | May 25, 2008 3:21:12 PM
How about realist not about to reward republicans for ruining this country. Can anybody say, war, crushing debt, foreclosures, high fuel and food prices?

Posted by: LG | May 26, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Joe from OH–
And your point is?

Posted by: Hold on there Spanky | May 26, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

HillaryMcCain’08
it has been said that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. I’m with Hold on there Spanky on this one – If Hillary were able to garner 60% of the vote from write-in, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now, because she would have been the presumptive nominee for months.

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 26, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Bakossi–
So according to you, because KY and WVA voted so heavily for Hillary, the white working class voters in these states are not knowledgeable. Wow, that is interesting deduction? From what university did you get your PhD? Sounds like the same one as GW Bush….you know the only who stated,”I am proof you can be a “C” student at Yale and get to be POTUS”

Posted by: Bluegrass | May 26, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

Everybody knows the media is biased for Obama. They trip over each other trying to build him up. It is embarrassing to watch and read. Bill is right, were the vote counts switched they would not treat Obama the way they have Hillary.
The most important thing here is to stop the Bush third term.
We Democrats need to stop the nasty sniping at each other. We can’t win the election without the vote of Hilary’s supporters. We probably can’t win without the black vote.
So lets let the primaries play out and at the convention have a floor vote and that is that. Then we need to pull together for the winner. You think the two nominees have been hitting each other hard, wait till the Republican smear machine starts rolling – you ain’t seen nothing yet!
One thing for sure, when the election is past we need to dump everyone at the Democratic National Committee. They have caused more problems by their inaction on on the two uncounted states. They should have handled this better from the start. Failing that they should have resolved it before now when those votes are critical for one of the candidates.

Posted by: Pete | May 26, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

vote hillary and willy can continue his house of ill repute.sellus out to columbia next they were already working on that
vote MCcain and fight a 100 year war if necessary-obama is all we have left–
just the facts

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Hillary #1 & Best Choice. McCain #2 Choice – Better than Obama. We Will Stand For America – Not For A Party !

Posted by: OhioVoter&Friends | May 26, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Good vs. evil. It’s that simple.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 26, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Democrats for Hillary–
Democrats need the black vote to win in a general election. So tell me how does Hillary mend the fences with the black voting block in two short months? Yes, she would win some of them back but likely not enough to win. She also will drive Republicans out in droves to vote against her. Right now some will probably not vote at all or vote Bobb Barr. But if Hillary is on the ticket, you can bet they will vote McCain to ensure she loses.
These two factors alone make Hillary extremely unelectable at this point.
I am not throwing down the race card here. It is just a fact.
The super delegates know this and will act accordingly. Hillary is now the unelectable one.

Posted by: Hold on there Spanky | May 26, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

HRC was not my first choice, though I voted for her in the primary, and would do so again. I understand she will not be the nominee, and I have a visceral loathing of the Dr. Feelgood approach to winning a position. There is no way on earth I will vote for BHO.
Instead, I am thinking that I will vote Green Party in the hopes that they will get their 5% for funding, but if it does appear close, then McCain is my guy. A Dem Congress balanced by an opposing executive might be good for the budget and for checks/balances. I do have problems with judge appts, but the alternative scares me more. BHO promises change like he can legislate, but already the more negative influences of the dem party are ready like aphids on a plant to get what they want. no one party should be so much in charge unless they are able to control their own policy. HRC does that, but I don’t see BHO doing the same. Charm and keywords like ‘change’, ‘hope’, and ‘unity’ are not the earmarks of a good democratic leader, they are the signs of ‘you are with me or you are against me’.
And that is sobering.

Posted by: guyinhouston | May 26, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Obama supporters won’t shut their pile holes until Obama suffers a humiliating defeat at the general election.
He cannot win even half of Democrat party’s votes. Republicans will not vote for him and many Hillary supporters will never vote for him either.
I have a chance to do a small survey today in my church. Over 150 churchgoers, only 2 of them voted for Obama and the rest of us voted for Hillary. Being asked, none of Hillary supporters will go to vote in November if Obama is a nominee!
Keep it in mind, over 28% of Hillary supporters will vote for John McCain in November according to the recent survey. For over 2 months, this number has risen…. and will not go away!
So, Obama supporters, go ahead to sing “mission accomplished” now, then have each other to comport later!
Wish to see you guys are moaning and crying like wound animals in the fall!

Posted by: JK | May 26, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am

for those who want to keep bringing up rev right.
what is MCcains minister–now be honest—-does anyone realize as to where hillarys minister is at this time.
do a little research and come back.
after all you are not voting for someones minister

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Bill is in no way a modern day hero. He is one of the 10 worst presidents in history. Only a chimp could have screwed up the economy during the 90′s, when computers were just coming to be a household item. He pushed NAFTA down our throats, he signed the ’96 Telecommunications Act which allowed corporations such as Clear Channel to gobble up all the radio stations, and quash the voice of dissent. He also opened the door to trade with China, and gave computer technology to China. He also lied about the BJ. What has transpired during the campaign, has convinced me that the Clinton’s are knee deep in 9/11 and global domination along with the Bush administration.

Posted by: Jon | May 26, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Hillary is running for the presidency and the media started attacking her and showing negative derogatory stereotypes as soon as she announced. She is stellar in the debates and the meetings. Hillary is truly inspiring, and her speeches are backed up by her actions. Why doesn’t the media even highlight Obama’s disconnected speeches with his past voting record? If he is the democratic nominee, I’m sure the republicans will point out all the times BO has voted right along with his republicans peers on things like expanding Nafta and the immigration bill and funding Iraq.

Posted by: Joe | May 26, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am

I don’t know much about the Clintons (I didn’t vote for him) – although I NOW support Hillary. One thing is for sure – Bill Clinton has a much better personality and down-to-earth, ‘been there’ persona than Obama does.

Posted by: Brendy | May 26, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

jon
all i can say is bravo–heep trying to educate

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

It’s emphatically embarrassing to hear people still expressing ” experience” as an antidote to America’s presidency. Aren’t we all observing the delicacy of such an”Experienced” leadership at the moment? I would rather prefer to see an “inexperience” president for a change this time. Wake up America!!!!
I’M GONNA GIVE BARACK THE CHANCE THIS TIME.

Posted by: NARTEY | May 26, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

Joe,
Read Fox News website, they have already had a list of Obama’s tails of lies. I read it on Friday 23!

Posted by: JK | May 26, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am

Hillary has been treated bad by media rightfully because when she speaks its almost always a opps I did it again situation from bosnia to the last kennedy gafe every time she gets air play she is doing anyting to stir up racial divide. She makes the TV ratings go down she only has you HRC supporters who never see the flat out lies and it just aint enough to keep the ratings up.
Obama 08

Posted by: libra #1 | May 26, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

slick willy destroyed us economicaly—-bush has us in a war that no self respecting person will try to justify.
where do we go from here—be it obama or another —we better have change in this country or we will destroy ourselves

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

Pete–
Do you really think it will be Obama/Clinton at this point?
A lot of Hillary supporters say they still won’t vote for him, but want her on the ticket as they think it will make her more viable in 2012.
I think the comment about RFK doomed any chance for her to be on the ticket. I also think it doomed her with super delegates.

Posted by: Hold on there Spanky | May 26, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

This has nothing to do with Bill’s desperation speech, but I just thought I would point out that everyone should start doing their homework on McCain’s possible running mate’s just in case a fluke happens and he ends up President. His running mate becomes all important the day after the Democratic convention on Aug. 28th. August 29th McCain will have to blow out 72 candles on his birthday cake.

Posted by: 1masterstroke | May 26, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Race Card,
Your argument would be fair, except that white people and black people don’t have the same experience. When whites talk about the assertion of white culture, there’s a diabolical image attached to it – and there should be. I have had black neighbors who had crosses left burning in their front yards. The assertion of black culture and liberation through a deep and abiding faith in God isn’t frightening to me, it’s inspiring. Liberation theology was started by St. Bartolome de las Casses in defense of Native American slaves in Mexico.
I can appreciate that you are a member of a different church, and that your experience with TUCC has not necessarily been a good one – but don’t tell me tall tales about a “guerilla faith” – you know me well enough to know I’ll check it out.

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 26, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

“If you can’t take the hits, don’t put on the pads.” -Bill Clinton

Posted by: power-and-knowledge | May 26, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

hennesy
spoken like a true republican–you assume that was the theme of all rights sermons—if he was at time talking about all the injustices that colored people suffered over the years——what would you say–now be honest—-however i feel that he should have been encouraging people to bury past and move ahead—

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

No one wants to talk about Iraq or the economy. Iraq is a colossal blunder. The neocons are more than willing to continue fooling around in Iraq on a credit card because they are positioned to make money on that play, and quite frankly, most of you aren’t. I double dog dare the next poster to address either of these issues.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 26, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

toastondayone
remember vietnam polititions on both sides made billions–while our sons died and once again FOR WHAT

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

If Obama is crucified for attending Wright’s church then Mccain’s should be worse. Obama has never sought Wrights endorsement. Mccain sought hagee’s and Parshly’s for almost a year and proclaimed on national t.v that he was proud to have received it. But now he is no longer proud because a snippet of their comments was relayed on the internet not even on T.V like Obama’s. The truth is that all the news media were hoping to destroy Obama with that but he stood tall and has been prevailing. Wright was an issue on all the media stations for almost two months and I know the Republicans will still bring it up. Where is O’Reilly and hannity now on Mccain’s issues. No where to be found and you will say those people are not racist. I will prefer a Clinton win anyday but never Mccains, at least Bill is still the first black President to many blacks.

Posted by: vuzous | May 26, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

The US would not have invaded Iraq had Saddam adhered to UN resolution 1441. Documents secured from Saddam now show that Saddam had every intention of restarting his WMD program as he did not think the US would invade him. So sooner or later, the world would have had to face up to the immediate threat Saddam posed to the world. Post 9/11, the US decided it would not wait and be attacked by a known enemy of the West . An enemy who cheered 9/11 , provided aid to Hamas , and who every intelligence agency reported had WMDs. Thus Iraq was invaded. If Obama had gotten his way and Saddam was still in power the West would be dealing with TWO major middle eastern powers on the brink (or already in possession} of nuclear weapons. The facts on the ground now in Iraq are that Al Qaeda is there and if the USA retreats and turns Iraq over to them, Al Qaeda will have access to Iraq’s large oil reserves and thus the means and opportunity to attack us and attack us hard. Our Middle Eastern allies will have no reason to trust our word and abandon us. Not to mention the boost a withdrawal from Iraq will give to Iran, Syria and Hamas. Think WWIII, A lot of people they scoff at the threat Al Qaeda and the rest of their ilk poses to the security of the US and future of the Western World. If Obama is elected his defeatist policies will put us all at more risk of another 9/11 attack and even worse the blow up the middle east which will mean more will die. That is what happened in WWII when people thought Hitler could be appeased and were wrong, very wrong. Whats more, the killing fields of Cambodia could be played out again by Al Qaeda in Iraq. Only this time the people slaughtered could be the very people that risked their lives to support the US. Question, if Obama wins, can you Obama supporters sleep well at night if you get what you want and this happens? I hope not.

Posted by: Cindy | May 26, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

I agree with everything President Clinton said. I can’t believe how Hillary has been ignored by the media. Obama has out spent her by millions and he still can’t make her go away.
Hang in there Hillary until all the votes are counted.

Posted by: cjc | May 26, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

ToastOnDayOne–
Good post. Too bad Hillary supporters aren’t interested in the issues right now. They are still sulking.
Let’s hope by November the big boy/girl pants have come on and they vote with their heads and pocket books rather than out of spite.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Bill Clinton, here is what is disrespectful: you standing up in front of 200 people and trying to guilt them into voting for your wife. THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL.
What you are, in essence, telling them is that they do not have the intelligence to see through your sad rhetoric.
Senator Clinton can defend herself and as much as she too is trying to stir up anger among the democrats, I do not think she would stoop so low to speak to voters in such a downright condescending manner. OR?

Posted by: exatlantic | May 26, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Supers should worry more about the General Election because in case of a failure with BO’s team many of them will loose the general esteem and probably their positions.

Posted by: Bick | May 26, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Clinton’s a fine one to talk about bullying superdelegates…that’s what they’ve been doing right along, and it will only get worse.
I look at it this way: Hillary Clinton ran an extremely poor campaign, she chose the wrong people to run it, relying on personal loyalty instead of competence. And look where that got her. Obama ran a flawless campaign with plenty of people in every state; no drama, no fights, just hard work. Which person is better suited to run the country?
Another thing: both candidates are dead tired, but Obama manages to always be courteous and civil, while Hillary starts yapping about assassinations. What bothers me is that this statement, combined with her not-so-carefully-coded message to “white Americans” could lead to something very bad indeed.
I don’t trust her. And I sure as hell don’t trust Bill.

Posted by: MizLiz | May 26, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Hillary to the Convention Still miles ahead of Obama, Beats McCain, so what have we been telling you. better put your country ahead of Michelle and Obama
May 25, 2008
Gallup Daily: Clinton Maintains Lead Over McCainObama has 5-point lead over Clinton among DemocratsUSA Democrats Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ — Gallup Poll Daily tracking from May 20-24 finds Hillary Clinton maintaining a significant 49% to 44% lead over John McCain when registered voters are asked about their preferences for the fall general election, while McCain has a slight 47% to 45% advantage over Barack Obama.

Posted by: Martha | May 26, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Racey,
I can appreciate your viewpoint – what’s good for one ought to be good for the other, and hence, you’re saying that if one shouldn’t say ethnically derisive remarks, than neither should the other.
I think that there are those of us who feel that we’ve been very fortunate, having opportunities and being allowed to move forward. But we see that there are those who have been held back because of their ethnicity – and I know that this still happens, because I’ve seen it. What are your thoughts on this, professor?

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 26, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

Rodney–I totally agree. When I was young, my dad, who worked for the University of Wisconsin at the time, somehow got hold of a copy of “The Selling Of The Pentagon” (how the government lied to sell the public on the Viet Nam war) and we watched it together in his office. I was not old enough to understand the documentary then, but I get it now.

Posted by: ToastOnDayOne | May 26, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

LYN
if you or anyone else think that her getting called to quit the race (which id say who has really said this? people have said it is mathmatically impossible and they want to know her resons for staying in) and that if this were a man she would be allowed to continue…
well its simply not true, from the same story she sited about her husband and his nomination, this is a piece written by william bradly
Hillary Clinton: “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it.”
What a remarkably wrong-headed paragraph. The formerly inevitable Clinton got into obvious trouble for her assassination comment. (And is now trying desperately to spin her way out. Lotsa luck.) But the sentence before it is totally wrong as well, as I can tell you that the Clintons knew that they would have no trouble in the 1992 California primary.
In May 1992, I passed on a message to Bill Clinton’s national campaign chairman, Los Angeles attorney Mickey Kantor, who later held two Cabinet posts in the Clinton Administration. The message? That Jerry Brown, the former California governor who emerged as Clinton’s most persistent opponent, would run no TV ads in the California primary and would pull back from the sharp attacks he’d been leveling on the frontrunner.
The primary was not “in the middle of June,” as Hillary said in the first part of her gross misstatement about it. It was on the first Tuesday in June, as it had been for decades to that point, on June 2nd. Clinton was way ahead in the race. There was no suspense about him getting the nomination. And Brown’s decision not to run TV ads in California — he had plenty of money for that — and to refrain from the harsh attacks that had marked his campaign to that point made it very clear that the fight was over.
Brown had made plenty of trouble for Clinton, coming out of the pack to end up as the rather distant runner-up for the Democratic presidential nomination. Running against political corruption, the former two-term governor of California won several big primary and caucus victories over Clinton. Accepting no contribution over $100, in this pre-Internet campaign Brown used an earlier form of interactive technology and funded his run with an 800 number, mentioning the number so often that then NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, a family friend, tried to cut him off during a TV appearance.
Brown’s surge against Clinton halted after a fake drug scandal broke on ABC. There was nothing actually there — one key source who appeared on Nightline later admitted that the Brown fundraiser he dramatically said he’d attended where drug-taking took place was a big Eagles concert in the 1970s where some fans smoked marijuana — but the information provided to the network was packaged cleverly enough to produce a lot of short-term smoke. As it were. Funny how such things happen not infrequently around Bill and Hill’s campaigns.
With Brown deciding to run no TV ads, and pulling back from his sharp attacks on Clinton, the way was made absolutely clear for Bill Clinton to finish first in the California primary and begin consolidating his role as the nominee of the Democratic Party.
The night of the California primary, I stayed at the Hollywood Hills home of Brown’s sister, Kathleen Brown, then the California state treasurer, and her husband, former CBS News president Van Gordon Sauter. Jerry Brown stayed there, too.
Distressingly early on the morning after the California primary, there was a knock on my door. Jerry Brown rushed into the room, reporting that somebody had called for me. He was much more interested, naturally, in talking about his campaign than in delivering a phone message. I’m not sure I ever found out who had called.
He was in very good spirits. Primary day had gone as he planned, as he piled up more delegates to make a showing at the convention in New York. And Clinton allies like then Democratic national chairman Ron Brown could no longer accuse him of trying to embarrass Clinton as the primary season concluded.
I told Brown that Warren Beatty had called asking for his number. Beatty wanted to play an intermediary role in working out more of a peace agreement between the Clinton and Brown camps.
That never did get worked out, as the Clintons deeply resented Brown for being the first political figure to attack them on what later became known as Whitewater. And his gibes about Clinton golfing with fat cats — in particular, Hillary’s law partner, Webster Hubbell — as preparations were made for the Clinton-approved execution of a brain-damaged black man during a bad patch in his presidential campaign particularly stung the future first lady.
Now Brown is the very popular attorney general of California, using his office to aggressively pursue remedies to climate change.
And Hillary Clinton? As her campaign winds down, reduced to making bizarre references to political assassination and pretending that she doesn’t know any of what you have just read.
Jerry Brown, incidentally, who won a 19-point landslide election as California attorney general in 2006 — he ran many millions of dollars worth of TV ads in that race — met with Bill and Hillary Clinton and with Barack Obama early in this campaign cycle. Pondering a return to the governorship in 2010, he is neutral in the race.

Posted by: bhrandon | May 26, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

vuzous, You have got to be kidding. Rev. Wright was an official member of Obama’s campaign team!!!! When everything about Wright became public ie God D### America, Obama had to let him go. Wright’s title on Obama’s campaign team was “Spiritual Advisor”. Why do Obama supporters keep spreading such obvious lies about Obama when there is the Internet and all the information about Obama and Rev. Wright’s role in Obama’s campaign is public record. Geez.

Posted by: Sally | May 26, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

This really is a bit much to take. I have NEVER seen anyone complain so much just because they are losing. Bill Clinton has abolutely disgraced himself with his paranoid rantings, and Hillary has shot herself in the foot so many times she must have set a new Guiness Boook of Records. Not only are they losing (the election), they have demonstrated themselves to be losers.
We Republicans have felt this way about the Clintons for over a decade, and finally a large amount of the liberal Democrats are starting to see the dishonesty of the Clinton Clan. Heaven help us if either of them get any amount of political power again in their lifetimes.

Posted by: Nick in Virginia | May 26, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Racey,
Clinton wrote a book called “It takes a Village.” I didn’t bother finish reading it, because a few chapters in, I decided it resembled the later chapters of Marx & Engels book, “The Communist Manifesto.” While I found the earlier chapters of TCM intriguing, Marx and Engels stated in the final chapters that it was their intention to remove children from the homes of parents who did not raise the children according to the dictates or the State. Clinton’s book said that she didn’t believe that most parents were qualified to parent. I found this disturbing. I am interested in your thoughts on this.

Posted by: Anarchyjack | May 26, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am

Republicans are clapping for Obama, wake up for our Country people. read this copy and send to Jimmy Carter see if with his high IQ can really understand Hillary Has to be our Nominee!
GOP sees Obama mired in base
By Donald Lambro
May 26, 2008
Some people think Sen. Barack Obama is close to clinching the Democratic presidential nomination, but he faces trouble on several fronts in the general election with blue-collar workers and other parts of the electorate who question his lack of experience, foreign-policy judgment and social liberalism.
Fewer than a few dozen delegate votes away from making history as the first black to win the nomination of a major party, the freshman senator is also showing signs of weakness among white voters in Midwestern and Southern battleground states, including Ohio and Florida, which Democrats must carry if they are to win the White House.
A senior Republican official in Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign said the party’s internal polls show Mr. Obama is having trouble reaching outside of his base of blacks, young adults and college-educated voters.
“We’re seeing that in state after state Obama has trouble drawing beyond his own base. His coalition has been secular liberals, young people and blacks. That’s proven to be enough in the Democratic primaries, but he’s going to have to go beyond that to win the general election,” said Frank Donatelli, the McCain campaign’s chief liaison at the Republican National Committee.
“He’s done poorly in the last two months in every contest he’s run outside of those areas. He’s clearly not the candidate he was in February and March when he won a dozen primaries in a row,” said Mr. Donatelli, who was President Reagan’s White House political director.
The results of matchups between the two prospective nominees in a Quinnipiac University poll in several swing states were similar to the RNC’s internal poll findings, he said.
In Ohio, a Democrat-leaning state in economic distress, the presumptive Republican nominee edges out Mr. Obama 44 percent to 40 percent, according to the Quinnipiac survey. In Florida, where Democrats are campaigning heavily, Mr. McCain led his likely opponent 45 percent to 41 percent.
“Senator Obama is losing the white vote by 14 to 18 points in Ohio and Florida, which is enough to keep him from victory despite overwhelming support from African-Americans,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Posted by: Tom Jeffers | May 26, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Martha–
Hillary is unelectable. She can’t win over enough of the black vote at this point to win in the general election.
Republicans hate Hillary with a passion. If she is on the ticket they will vote en mass.
She has said she doesn’t need the black vote or the educated vote or the youth vote. When in fact, she would need all of these things to win the general election. She is no longer a viable candidate.
The super delegates know this and they will not give her this nomination.
Democrats will win down ticket with or without Hillary. If nothing else they will split their tickets, vote republican for Prez and democrat for everything else.
Hillary brings nothing to the dance.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Quit whining and accept defeat. Obama is a true statesman and ran a very honest, fair campaign. He stood up for her time and again while she and Bill spit their venom at him. Hillary Clinton has ran a dirty campaign. She lost miserably and the math is against her. The Clintons need to go back to elementary school and take math lessons.

Posted by: Carol | May 26, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

anarchyjack
it shows that we still have a long way to go—–my personal feeling is thet until we have a complete mixing of the races this will not end—and even then we will find something else to fight about—–guess we are stuck with being human – and our petty differences—i fully believe in freedom of speach–and have been called a few names myself.

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Bill Clinton does not respect Hillary. Why in the world should we?

Posted by: Carol | May 26, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Good for him. Clinton is making a good point. How can the Democrats, the party of “Count every vote,” push the person who has won the popular vote out? This is just weird. I don’t get it. I am ashamed of my party. I am ashamed of my party because they have turned their backs on the Clintons. Afterall, it was the Clinton’s who gave the Democrats power for the first time in 15 years. Bill Clinton is the only democrat who has managed to get re-electred since FDR. This is sad. Just sad.
This is why we never win.

Posted by: Gabe | May 26, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Gabe–
She only wins the popular vote by using her magical math.
Popular vote won’t fly with the super delegates because they know real world math and they know the popular vote is not accurate.
They also know Hillary is now unelectable, i.e., she has alienated a large chunk of the electorate that is necessary for any democrat to win in a general.
This electoral map she keeps speaking of is also just an illusion. There are no electoral votes until the general. Polls this early mean nothing.
The good news is, we don’t need to depend on easily manipulated dolts to figure this out. The super delegates are comprised of intelligent and educated people who will make the right decision. That is why they were put in place and looks like they will fulfill that role quite nicely.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Bitter, Bill?

Posted by: Sandra | May 26, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

april……passionate post……maybe someday you can come up with a good argument….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

april
she played new yorkers for fools and i hope next election they do something about it.
she is what she is——money and power is all that matters.
beyond that i would wonder where was she during willys escapades -was it approved by her as she is still with him.

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

You know, Bubba, I used to love ya! Now, I wish you would just go away! Ohm yes, and it is you, the one who stained Monica’s dress who has been disrespectful. Do you really want to go there, because we (Obama’s supporters) can!!! You crazy, old, delusional, cheating, liar, crazy, bigotted, red-neck, big-nosed, cracker-a##, SOB, mysogynistic, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, 42 other murdering, screwing fat broads, staining their dresses, playing the race card -having it on tape-denying it and lying,…oh, you know where this goes!!! It is Bubba who treated this woman so disrespectfully and now he exploits it because he is so power hungry! Urgggh! I detest this man, and his loser wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: drs2008 | May 26, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

The nominating process involves getting voted in at the convention. This is not a corination. deal with Obamabots.

Posted by: geevill | May 26, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am

If Hillary dresses as sloply as Obama, I bet we will hear all the crap about her unbeftting dress code as a presidential candidate; but when it is Obama that is sloply dressed, he is full of casual charm. Hillary bashers make me sick.

Posted by: true | May 26, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Hillary’s hilarious. The Democratic Party has fractured. The only way to put it back together for Barack Obama’s election campaign is for Hillary supporters to wake up, publicly denounce her and declare support for Barack Obama on their own. Hillary now has zero credibility with anyone who has any self respect and common sense. She can’t even publicly support and campaign for Barack Obama now. Otherwise she will discredit his campaign if she does. Talk about damage to the party! She may have now ruined any chance he has to win, just as some predict was her backup plan all along. But year 2012 is now completely out of the picture for her. What a complete self destructive loser! I wonder, is she on a suicide watch? After this campaign only criminals and lowlifes and the truly mindless will continue to admire and adore these lowlife, criminal, furniture stealing, con artists we all know as the Clintons. Been a long time coming.

Posted by: SuperD | May 26, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Bill Clinton’s comments are absurd.

Posted by: Gilberto Gil | May 26, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Please, no more excuses. Along with the policy debates and formulation of party platforms, the primary campaign process is designed to detect exactly how the candidates continue to function under the pressure. We want to see and we need to know exactly how the candidates are affected by the lengthy, tiring, demanding process. We try to determine their beliefs and values and how each candidate’s stamina, thinking, judgment, and health, holds up in the process. Yes it is a pressure cooker. That’s what it’s supposed to be. It’s not a perfect process but we need to know who’s likely to crack before we decide who our president is going to be. Hillary didn’t make the cut. And for better or worse, we now know she’s also not fit for the Senate. That’s a bonus!

Posted by: CitizenPatriot | May 26, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

USmarine0331: Please stick to the facts. Sen. Obama’s policy proposals are, if anything, LESS “far-left” than Hillary’s. The only real areas with which Obama and Clinton really differ have to do with foreign policy and lobbyists. She has bought into the idea that to be tough, Dems need to be extra hawkish. Obama favors diplomacy first, wars last. And he (rightly) sees most lobbyists as the leeches that they are. He’s not sufficiently anti-nucleur power for my tastes, but I nitpick. Bottom line though, is the whole McGovern/Radical Left=Obama/Obama Supporters meme is just wrong. BTW, even Bill never cleared 49%; he won only because Ross Perot was there to split the conservative/anti-Clinton vote. Perot’s not around to help this time, and HRC is not as gifted a politician. Plus, she would unite the GOP AGAINST her. And she alienates more independents than she attracts. Finally, let’s DO count all the votes. MI, FL AND the caucus voters too. All told, more voters have voted – primaries and caucuses – for Barack Obama than for Hillary Clinton. Plus, of course, he has an insurmountable lead in the one metric that was supposed to matter, namely, the pledged delegates. How do the polls look now? Polls come and go, as we’ve seen repeatedly these last few months. Vote for whom you wish, but stick to facts and logic, not wishfull thinking. And don’t blame Sen. Obama for winning by working the system the way it is, not the way you might wish it to be.

Posted by: jstock2008 | May 26, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Isn’t it amazing that there are hundreds of comments against what Bill said? Do you think there is a remote possibility that “rhetoric” from the BO camp might be infiltrating the internet?You only see hundreds of comments when they need to bury the truly thought out comments of those who “get it”.
Bucky

Posted by: Bucky PharcznacK | May 26, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Geevill–
I have been asking this all day, so please you be the one to share with us a valid argument.
Why would the super delegates all of the sudden swarm to Hillary in Denver?
She would have two months to win over the Obama supporters who believe she stole the election, not to mention the 90% of the black vote that she already lost.
75% of republicans hate here. 70% of independents hate here.
Now give me a valid argument about where she would get enough votes to win the general election? You don’t win with 25-30% of the popular vote.
Do you think the super delegates are unaware of all this?

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

Bill should take an oath, and wag his finger at us, then we would believe him. NOT!
The man is a liar, was impeached, and his wife has no values we can put our faith in.
I thought he told us that this campaign was mild, and that we have to stand the heat of the kitchen. Now that they are surely losing, he is weeping.

Posted by: John S | May 26, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

“70% of independents hate her” – spoken like a true lemming

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

Rodney,
It isn’t like they haven’t done it before.
The Clintons always get what they want some how, some way. And yet, this time it doesn’t look like they can bully their way in. Looks like the old Clinton charm has worn away.
It’s time for the Clintons to eat some humble pie and I for one am glad to be around to see it happen.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

i don’t think the arrogance of the obama lemmings will much of a defense to the emotional breakdown they will suffer when their deity/candidate inevitably, ultimately fails because of his own hypocrisy and deception and the horrible character flaws of so many who supposedly “support” him….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Bill and Hillary…..Please, your Interview with the public for the Office is OVERRRRR! Move along or we will have security escort you out the door!

Posted by: Jim | May 26, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

the more obama falsely claims he is about “change”, the more things will stay the same (kerry 2004)

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

Chris–
These are statistics from polls, which HRC seems to love, that is if they favor her.
Let me rephrase. 75% of republicans have a very unfavorable opinion of HRC. 70% of independents have a very unfavorable opinion of HRC. 51% of democrats have a very unfavorable opinion of HRC.
So tell me, how is she electable in November with that many people who find her very unfavorable? George W. Bush is the only politician in this country with an unfavorable rating higher than Hillary’s.
She cannot win in the general.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am

getagrip
perhaps there is justice after all

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

I have been a Bill Clinton fan forever and a day but over the last six months I have seen a man that I don’t recognize anymore. Bill has done more damage to himself and the campaign than anyone could have hoped.
At one time he was highly respected by the African American population but this race to the White House has shown the Clinton’s in a very bad light. It’s hard to believe that every thing they appeared to fight so hard for has come to fruition and now they are hell bent on destroying it.
Hillary claims she has so much experience, then why didn’t she read the Democratic Play Book over the past 30 years or so. She would have found out that she could have received more votes going after the caucus states. Now that she and Bill have run a lousy campaign it’s now time to blame others and spin all kinds of lies. It’s shameful.
I’m afraid of what they may have up their sleeves before June 3. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We’ll get the truth about this campaign in another 10 years when Hillary’s too old to run for president and they want to make a final financial sweep. This couple is slowly moving towards a political disgrace.
Obama has won, get over it!

Posted by: TiffIn in Ohio | May 26, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

Go Hillary, stay in the race please for the 17 Million voters who need you in 2009 in the Presidency.

Posted by: Joe | May 26, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am

Rodney, I think you might have it backwards…

Posted by: Jenn | May 26, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Chill, Bill. She has been treated gently compared to how you were. It’s part of the game.

Posted by: DennisNC | May 26, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am

bob
that about sums it up—-now try to convince people on this site—you will find it almost impossible.

Posted by: rodney | May 26, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

get a grip…..i’m not saying Hillary’s gonna get the nomination…..I just know that obama can’t win the general election……you all know it too, but your emotional attachment to his candidacy, flawed as it is, won’t allow your psyche to admit to this foregone conclusion…..that’s not being “rude”, that’s being realistic…..

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

Bill, if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen! Remember?

Posted by: geraldcubitt | May 26, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am

anarchyjack……great intelligent response to my logical argument….i’m sure you win a lot of “debates” with similarly thoughtful analysis based upon thoroughly investigated facts and historical evidence easily accessed with the click of a mouse…..

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Bill Clinton is truly gone off w/ wife Hillary Clinton. This is honestly not the truth. Where are those statistics and polls that shows the wife doing better than Obama nationally. Saying things w/o facts is lying and Bill is lying, just like the wife….

Posted by: TheTruth | May 26, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

the crazy part is, after so many years of hatred from anti-American elements in the republican party (and apparently elsewhere), Senator Clinton is STILL HERE……she has the tenacity, the drive, the intelligence and the fortitude to keep on keeping on, regardless of the odds and money against her…….sounds like something john kerry would’ve loved in 2004, huh? (and something obama won’t have in 2008 against a similar swift-boats-vets-style campaign)……..

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am

get a grip……if Hillary were ever a master of manipulation and conning the common man, obama has gone way beyond her for that title….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

I started off as an Edwards supporter. I hear HRC people here and elsewhere whining that Obama has “played the race card” and he is “sexist”. Maybe in certain circles, winning according to the rules that all of the candidates agreed to in advance is sexist. Certainly you would think that way if you considered it was “your due time” to get your favorite candidate elected and messy democracy rained on your little parade. And don’t give me that crap about the “popular vote”, caucuses count too, and the Michigan primary was like a vote for Stalin — only one candidate.
I have heard HRC parrot GOP talking points. Repeatedly. And I have heard her lie like Bill O’Reiley (bullets in Bosnia, her passion for guns and hunting, even her fake Texas accent when she visited here in Houston). In desperation she is turning into a gaffe machine and she can’t be trusted to not torpedo a ticket, should Obama be dumb enough to have her as VP; plus Bill has some business dealings that may not stand scrutiny at this point.
In February I really didn’t care which of them would win. By now she has crossed the “Lieberman Line” (a good description I read somewhere else). I now find her loathsome.

Posted by: Ba'al | May 26, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

anarchyjack……she knew she couldn’t win because she didn’t have enough experience in the Senate, and unless you have spent some time as a Governor (4 of the last 5 Presidents), it might be hard to convince the majority of voters in the states that you need to win in order to become President that you are ready to lead as President and as Commander-in-Chief (somewhat relevant: Governor experience-State Guard)…..that said, the idiots who voted for dubya in 2004 were already aware of what an idiot he was thanks to his first term, but they didn’t really like kerry because of his own gaffes and especially the swift boat vets campaign…….and for 2008, obama has provided plenty of information to keep such anti-American, neo-conservative special interest groups busy for months……and though obama lemmings may not, such special interest groups know how the White House is won through different states and their respective electoral votes and they have practically unlimited funds with which to win them….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

Claiming that the black guy won — and he has won — because he is sexist; but that Hillary has the better chance to win in November, er, because he is a black guy (hint hint nudge nudge), is not very compelling. Frankly, it is shrill (a word I used advisedly because at this point, with the delegate count what it is, it is richly deserved).
It is time to focus on Obama versus McCain (Bush III).

Posted by: Ba'al | May 26, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

Bill Clinton is right to speak up, it’s about time this issue got in the media. Too bad it’s the 11th hour. However, Hillary has won the big electoral states, many swing states, and the majority of the recent primaries. I wonder why the media is not calling for Obama to exit for party unity. She is clearly more likely to win if the nominee. It’s going to the convention, woohoo!!!

Posted by: Joe | May 26, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am

I believe in psychology they call it “projection,” and the Clintons do it all the time.

Posted by: susan | May 26, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am

anarchyjack…..i guess the completely unprecedented and unanticipated pre-emptive attack and occupation of a country based on false evidence and a heap of lies and falsehoods had nothing to do with the deaths of so many and the maiming and injuries, both physical and emotional, of so many more……but you go ahead, take your eye off the ball and blame Senator Clinton for your own selfish and exaggerated reasons for the evil and incompetence and ignorance of the bush administration and their entire network of corrupt friends and comrades…..they will be happy to help you redirect your justified anger over this travesty in American history to someone else

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am

This debate is a post-mortem.
Obama has won. By the rules everybody agreed to in advance. Hillary had a ten-year plan to be President. It came unglued. She had very bad judgment in advisers. Now she has come unglued.

Posted by: Ba'al | May 26, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

my god citizen patriot…what a horrible thing to say. we were all mislead by that creep bush as to WMD over in iraq. we cannot blame the over 4,000 deaths of americans in iraq just on hillary. people wake up here…we were duped by that idiot in the white house and his vice prez. what a shame. obama could not vote on the war, as he was not eliegible to do so. let’s stand united as dems…get that creep bush outta there, and no mc’cant. but please realize at the same time hillary is not our enemy. she stands firm on leading our country back to peace, prosperity, insurance for all, jobs that pay a good wage. please, please listen.

Posted by: carlasue | May 26, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am

1. Somehow, the superdelegates that remain “seated on the fence” are to blame – they are in good numbers to “clear the dust” and [to this extent] they surely know within themselves which candidate they are ready to endorse. This far, president Bill Clinton wouldn’t have to be “weeping crocodile tears” that his wife is being disrespected, American women wouldn’t have to be voting out of sympathy rather than merit, etc.
2. Not long ago [when the Clintons were dancing on leading grounds] they boasted of being champions of “the heat in the kitchen” and “the contact game on the pitch”. Alas, their recent lamentations beg the question – Could the Clintons have suddenly resolved to detest “their favourite cooking hobby” and “their coveted contact game” altogether?

Posted by: E-Baker | May 26, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

This is not quite accurate. Bill Clinton’s “fun house” would have to contain legions of chubby teenage interns that were all over him. I’ve yet to see that- so I seriously doubt his claims that he feels he’s like he’s in a fun house.

Posted by: calv-coolidge | May 26, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

CarlaSue–
I am not a dude, and no I am not a passionate dem. I am an independent and am actually semi-conservative.
I am voting Obama because frankly I agree with his position on foreign policy. I know I am in the minority, but I believe it is the only way out of this quagmire.
I majored in political science with an emphasis in international studies. The course we have taken regarding foreign policy has been deeply flawed. We need a new approach and Obama is the candidate I feel most qualified to take us in that direction.
Clinton lost me with the “obliterate” remark and McCain lost me with 100 years in Iraq.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

I feel the Clintons are deperate that they will do evrything just to be the nominee.This is all i can say, you are all profissionals PLEASE LEARN TO ACCEPT DEFEAT.

Posted by: dan | May 26, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

Chris,
I haven’t seen anything derogatory about AA’s who have stayed loyal to the Clintons. Good for them. They have the capacity to think for themselves and not base everything the think, say or do on biased media reports.
The media has been harsh on both candidates, while giving McCain a free ride. I agree they have run out of patience with Hillary as of late. As have I.
Kudos for anyone who votes based on the realities rather than something they read somewhere on the internet or some e-mail full of lies and hate they receive.
I am not voting based on what church someone went to or the rantings of a semi-crazy pastor. I am voting for the candidate I feel can get this country back on track. We desperately need to escape the policies of Bush/Cheney.
I challenge any real supporter of Hillary or Obama to deny that fact.
So Chris, stay loyal to the end. That is admirable. I personally don’t have any overly passionate feelings about any one in this race.
I know whose policies I agree with more and I am going with that.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

the fact of the matter is that President Clinton enjoyed unprecedented international goodwill during his time as President, Senator Clinton, albeit via her husband, also has made very impressive inroads with international governments, organizations and individuals around the world (vitalvoices.org ) and such an Administration (Hillary and Bill) would again reinvigorate and re-energize America’s positive and beneficial standing in the world community partly because they are not dubya, but mostly because the world already understands and knows how much America and the world will benefit from having their leadership, intelligence and grasp of international issues in particular, especially as to how they impact America and its people, and they will be much more prepared and equipped than either mccain and obama (especially obama) to lead not only America but the world community in helping all interrelated nations realize a better tomorrow, because only working together will such a dream come to fruition, though admittedly, it will not come overnight…..neither mccain or obama can achieve so much in the expedient and accelerated time frame that Senator Clinton and the First Gentleman Bill can on the world stage, and such failure to do so will only delay the solutions to many of the problems facing America today, especially iraq, if they don’t further aggravate those problems otherwise….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am

Chris,
Great point. I agree Obama and Hillary are almost identical in all of their policy positions.
So why all the hate for Obama?

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

good night anarchyjack….i never said obama wouldn’t be the nominee….i’m just saying he won’t win in November and Senator Clinton would be a MUCH better President…….that and the noticeable similarity between dubya’s supporters in 2004 and obama’s supporters in 2008 as having “likeability” as a strong reason for their support….

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am

get a grip…..not hate, just distrust because he is actions contradict his words and many of his followers are the antithesis of his call for unity and hope…..though i am very frustrated with the lack of sense and poor judgment of those same followers for acting like dubya supporters in 2004……they share the same unwavering loyalty and antipathy for anyone who disagrees with them……

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

it is past embarrasing.. and I would be enjoyiing it .. except these people scare me .. what are they going to do next?.

Posted by: rosemary | May 26, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am

I think by first running such a negative and reckless champion and now continuing the lost race and damaging the Democratic party’s unity so much,she is diminishing the chance of any woman in future to run for presidency.Do American people owe the White House to these people?Come on guys open ur eyes.If Bill OWES her ONE!!??we certainly don’t.Plz Obama choose the honorable Nancy Polosi for ur VP so Clintons are disarmed in their sexist,racist propaganda!

Posted by: Barbara | May 26, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am

g’night all….and remember: support Senator Clinton. Because I love my son and want the one candidate that I KNOW will make the best President, I have no choice but to support Senator Hillary Clinton for President. EVERYTHING else is secondary after consideration for his best interest.

Posted by: chris | May 26, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am

i will say goodnite to all and nice talking with you regardless of our opnion. thank god for free speech, and the right to vote. please, please, vote for peace and harmony in our country and our world.
thanks again for chatting with me, regardless if we agree or disagree. god bless.

Posted by: carlasue | May 26, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

Chris,
There are supporters on both sides who allow themselves to get agitated and do not represent their candidates well. You and I would both be included in that category from time to time.
As I read your posts and others on here, the word fear pops up far too often. That doesn’t seem like an intellectual argument.
Fear is what got George Bush elected. You say there are similarities between Bush voters in 2004 and Obama voters in 2008, however, HRC supporters constant use of the word fear would indicate Hillary is the one getting the fear vote this year.

Posted by: GET A GRIP | May 26, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

Whats the problem here?
In HRC you have an individual who conspired to tell untruths (or is it “misspoke”) to deceive the American public about her husband’s sexual problems before and during his presidency; “lost” her legal billing records concerning her involvement in dodgy deals; “misspoke” about the Travel Office issue; and “made mistakes” regarding the removal of White House property for her personal use.
That is her “executive experience”.
Why on earth is such a flawed individual even a candidate?
What standards are we applying here?
And – why are we surprised about Bosniagate and RFKgate – all she is doing is running true to form – its the only way she knows unfortunately.

Posted by: IR | May 26, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

I think Hillary is sickly obsessed with becoming President, afterall, if you don’t quite make it then it is not the end of the world, there are ways to contribute to society.

Posted by: Marty | May 26, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

I have two words for Bill:
Ralph Nader

Posted by: Didius Falco | May 26, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am

Chris/Libre
I started off in this campaign trying to involve in measured and reasonable debate
I got so sickened by the trash thrown at Obama that eventually I reckoned that while the measured debate must continue the trash tally also had to be balanced.
Neither candidate will be perfect but, whatever words are used, you have one demonstrably very flawed former first lady in this pretending to be decent and honest and she should not be allowed to get away with selling that misconception.
Slurping back the Koolaid and proud of it! :)

Posted by: IR | May 26, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

Bill is aware that until Obama’s unexpected win in Iowa, she was all but anointed with the nomination.

Posted by: Louis | May 26, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

Just in reference to the title, I don’t think that Senator Clinton is being treated as disrespectfully as Nadar often has. People have said over and over again that his running gives victory to the repblicans. It’s some democratic process we have.

Posted by: Aibell | May 26, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am

Sorry but former President Bill Clinton is 100% correct what he is saying about the media and how biased they are against Hillary. The reason is not only because she is a woman but also because Obama is black and a male. The media is run by men and they surly don’t want a female President running the country and don’t want to seem like racists so Obama is off limits. If Hillary is not the Democratic Nominee, I as many other millions of people will either stay home or vote for McCain.

Posted by: Jeff | May 26, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

Clinton is right. Even this article has the title Clinton blows.. and later they say he quietly explained his point.
As for most of the comments are so hateful that it is hard to imagine that they come from the country that had a n 80 % approval rating for Clinton.

Posted by: AGS345 | May 26, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

Dear Mr. Clinton, I voted for you 2 times and I had every intention of voting for Hillary, but the tone of her campaign turned me off.
I was in the voting booth aintending to vote for Hillary and a light went on in my head and the message CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN and YES WE CAN made me give a careful thought to what I was about to do. After thinking about what the issues were and how each campaign was operating I actually voted for Senator Obama in San Francisco, California when we had our primary.
I respect both of you as does most americans. with that being said everyone including you know that the math is not in her favor. Her message is good but to keep holding on and going at the media is not changing anything but people’s opinion of the Clinton’s.
On another note:
Happy Memorial Day. We should all have a moment of silence to show respect for those in uniform who have lost their lives in the Iraq war. ******************* *************************** RIP.
The 2008 general election is one of the most important elections to come our way yet. I feel it is our duty as Americans to carefully conisider what each candidate brings to the table.
This election should not be about what color you are, or what church you go to, or who you iknow because every person on the face of the earth knows someone that has different values than yours. I am supporting Barack Obama because I believe his message of CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN is what we need. Vote OBAMA 2008

Posted by: Lou | May 26, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

When clinton’s supporters say they would vote for Mcain than Obama,what does that say about the Clintons????!! A valid question, ha????

Posted by: Merry | May 26, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am

Statistics show that 97% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Posted by: Stephen Wright | May 26, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am

Carlasue,
Since the 1992 primary, I never liked these people – the Clintons, never. Call it instict. And no one but them has ever influenced my opinion. If he did inhale, he was lying to all of us. If he didn’t inhale, he was deceiving the friends he was with. They’re may be very smart people but their values are in the gutter. Trashy con artists is what they are, however educated they may be. Yes, we had peace and posterity in the 90′s. No real enemies to speak of. And while we were building down and enjoying ourselves, our enemies were all quietly building up against us. Our military discipline and readiness suffered greatly under their anti-military watch. The Army became a family friendly, touchy feely, liberal experiment. They tore it apart – made it soft. It adopted the values of its Commander-In-Chief. This I know first hand. Our Army is in big trouble. And if our Army is in big trouble, our nation is in big trouble. Without our Army, we never would have had a nation. Without a strong Army, we would have never kept it. And don’t blame all our problems on Bush. He didn’t attack us, but he did have to play the cards that were dealt to him by Bill when our enemies came a calling. If the Left had helped instead of hindered our earlier military efforts, maybe we wouldn’t be in such a hard spot right now. Some of us realize that Iran and the militant Islamic fundamentalism that it has exported has been on a low boil for 30 years now, building up arms and spreading out all over the place. Personally I have no confidence in any of the big three candidates. Obama is charismatic. But that’s no reason to vote for him. Hillary? She’s proven all over the place that she’s not fit for the job – She cracked up on Friday. Jimmy Carter anyone? Yes we are in a lot of trouble, serious trouble. Right now I could care less about children starving in Biafra. I care about America citizens dying in America. What we need first is National relations and diplomacy. Amen.

Posted by: CitizenPatriot | May 26, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

LOL “CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN”. First of all what change are you talking about? So far Obama has backtracked on almost every change he claims he will try for. Heres one example he said the he would end the embargo against Cuba and now he totally has change his mind because he knows Florida is in jeopardy being lost. He actually will keep us in Iraq longer than Hillary would. Obama has single handedly destroyed the Democratic Party calling Icons like Bill Clinton, Joe Bidden. Geraldine Ferarro and Ed Rendell racist. How pathetic.

Posted by: MR | May 26, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

Hillary never played the race card. She isn’t wishing for Obama to be assassinated. You people are driven by an irrational hatred for this woman.

Posted by: Andrew Austin | May 26, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

Now that Hillary wants to go to the White House sooooo BAD!!may be she should run as McCain VP!

Posted by: Dina | May 26, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am

Hey Dina the media wants Obama to be nominee so bad they’ll throw every democrat under the bus just to get him there. It won’t be long till they throw Obama under a freight train like they have done to Hillary.

Posted by: MR | May 26, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am

These two Clinton people are Just TOO DAMN AMBITIOUS and NARCICISTIC! They need to GO AWAY and be forgotten…They are damagin the country. WHY in heavens name would we want ANOTHER Clinton in the white House? This isn’t a Monarchy!!!!!

Posted by: jjarden | May 26, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

Hey jjarden I remember the Clinton years with the greatest economy ever. That’s why I want another Clinton ion the white House instead on this rookie punk we have now about to win the nominee because the media gave him a free pass

Posted by: MR | May 26, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am

LOL this getting funnier more and more every day with you uninformed Obama supporters. I call you the uniformed educated. Better known as pseudo intellects. You people are clueless. Come November at least 30 or 40% of those 19 million that voted for Hillary will jump to McCain and Obama will lose by a landslide.

Posted by: MR | May 26, 2008, 5:40 am 5:40 am

Can this drama queen cannot be the same POTUS that I thought was so good in the 90′s.

Posted by: DennisNC | May 26, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am

WHOOOOOP…….!!!!! What is this…before she told Obama.. if he can not with stand the heat to get out of the kitchen…ohhhh…now is her….she can not with stand the heat…..let her get out of the kitchen then….

Posted by: Kibs | May 26, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am

I know everyone on this post knows it all, however, he may be telling you something that is going on behind the scenes that you don’t know and wouldn’t have access to. Some listen to the media’s talking heads and act as if it was the gospel truth.

Posted by: Joanne | May 26, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am

Sadly, Bill’s right about this — in a long lifetime of watching campaigns, I have never seen any candidate so demonized by the media and supposed colleagues in the same political party. And, after a lifetime of watching campaigns, I can see the rest of the trajectory — she’s out, Obama wins, the media starts doing stories about how/why she lost including analysis of all the reporting that was done and whether it was accurate/appropriate … same as w/Gore, who the MSM loved to mock during the election (he lies! he sighs! he’s stiff as a board!) and promptly recast as martyr/canonized saint with admissions that he’d never said what they’d attributed to him, that characterizations made were unfair, etc.
Same Old S*** Different Day.

Posted by: Davis | May 26, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

Saw some college lads last week in a bar. They’ll be West Point Grads next Saturday, U.S. Army Second Lieutenants leading the way. Hip Hop to the bone – every last one of them. Products of our tolerant, diverse, liberal, gangster rap culture. God save us.

Posted by: CitizenPatriot | May 26, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

I can’t believe they keep saying she is winning. Bill is just as delusional as Hillary. Enough already.

Posted by: martha | May 26, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

“Bill Clinton Has ‘Never Seen a Candidate Treated So Disrespectfully Just for Running’.”
Well now you have Bill. So now it’s time to shut up and get out of here.

Posted by: carol | May 26, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am

Obama says Hillary Clinton “stirres up” trouble on FI and MI as it is her a “last slender hope”, paint a picture that Clinton is not aware that this is up to the superdelegates no matter what the rules are:
1) not counting FI and MI delegates,
2) counting FI and MI delegates as the states voted.
Obama cannot have it both ways, saying he want to see those delegates at the convention and at the same time argue against it. Then why do we have elections?
As for superdelegates they vote at the convention, and they have good arguments for selecting Clinton over Obama. She has much better chances in a electoral vote and this is too important to gamble away. Obama should spend more time explaining why 15 million people are not covered by the Obama “universal” healthcare plan, and less time speculating and doing characterization of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Johnsen | May 26, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

Bill Clinton you have one option to split the Democrat party. The Democrat party has become nothing but a special intrest group for the BLACKS GAYS and anyother victim group that wants to shove it to AMERICA./

Posted by: seal me | May 26, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

Who are “they” that Bill Clinton is referring to and this poll that he’s talking about – when was it taken and by whom?
I thought the new number was 2026,is it 2029 now?
Does anyone know why Michigan and Florida moved up their primary dates?

Posted by: Ocean View | May 26, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

From The media to the DNC and obama campaign. Hillary has been abuse, disrespected and made a target.
The media almost like they have been paid off by Obama, his camp or his friends. They have even gone low and used her clothing and her voice to make derogatory statements and headlines about.
Most headlines have been, mean, hateful or down right unfavorable. She has blasted for everything she says, does or wears in an extremely nasty unfavorable way.
Rarely has any headlines, comments statements or opinions In a favorable way been Done.
Unlike The favorable coverage of her opponents.
Obama started it all with his blaming, pointing fingers, half-truths and lies. in the beginning of his campaign.
The Bottom line, is the facts that:
The People want Hillary!
She is far better Candidate and will be a better Nominee.
She can beat McCain.
She would make the better President than Obama could ever be.
Is there a reason this race went on for so long? YES there is, The people want Hillary.

Posted by: seah | May 26, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Clinton beats McCain in the general
McCain beats Obama in the general
And who are the Dems going to nominate?
OBAMA!!!
It just defies belief, it really does.

Posted by: Mark | May 26, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am

Dem: You must be reading comic books. Of course the media like Chris Matthews, Shuster and Rustert have been promoiting Obama from the start of his campaign. Christ Matthews was against the Clinton’s winning the white house again and it showed on him. I watched him very carefully as he spoke. Obama will never be Bill Clinton because he doesn’t have the intelligence. I believe he also made deals with the superdelegates to switch to him for favors granted. There is no way Hillary could have dropped that fast. You should be aware of the fact that Obama was an attorney for a crooked businessman and that’s where he learned the tricks of the trade. I hope that Hillary’s voter’s think twice and vote for McCain or don’t vote at all.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 26, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Actually the race is going this long because she is Billy’s wife. Do you think anybody that wasn’t a first lady would have stayed in aftr being 20 million in debt?? Or aftrlosing 11 straight contests?? How long are you people gonna make excuses??

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am

CitizenPatriot: I basically think you don’t know what your talking about when you say those statements about the Clinton’s. We never had it so good when Bill Clinton was president and we won’t have it that good if Obama becomes the president of this country. Saddam had no intention of coming here. Bush’s father could have went after Saddam but chose not to in the Persian Gulf War. That country was in good shape until Bush, Jr. invaded it and look at the men we lost for no reason. Get a grip on life and wake up. Bush wanted control of that country and the oil and didn’t care about losses. Hillary would end the war quicker than Obama who is all mouth. He is a good speaker using speeches from the book of RFK because he can’t think for himself. God will need to help us if he is elected.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 26, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am

Hey Mariann, if all of that is true, then doesn’t that make Hill even worse since she can’t beat an underdog??

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

No one could possibly show greater disrespect for Hillary than has Bill. End of story.

Posted by: Cyrano | May 26, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

Face it, the vaunted Clinton machine caught a glitch. If the people want HRC, then WHY IS SHE LOSING????!!!

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Equal opportunity to succeed = equal opportunity to fail. Hillary has not been treated any differently than any one else in this primary. She HAS NOT won the popular vote…she IS staying in this far too long…no one else had to be asked to leave previous primarys…they bowed out gracefully as she should.

Posted by: JKM | May 26, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Come November…everything will be settled. No more bashing and ridiculing Hillary clinton and praising Obama. We will elect John McCain by a landslide margin!!! He is a true American patriot.

Posted by: RM | May 26, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

Bill is right. The news people on all the Networks and Cable, Satellite, have been for Hillary from the very beginning. Practically everthing she says, Obama and his gang made it out to be racist or disrespectful and then the news picks it up and runs with it and then the very next day Obama acts like he never objected or cried about her statements. He is such a phony and liar.
Obama hollers about changing the rules yet he and his supporters think the superdelegates should all line up behine him even if Hillary wins. That is breaking the rules of the superdelegate. They are suppose to come in at the end and voice their choice as to who would be best for the Country. That rule has been broken in favor of Obama.
I will vote all Democratic except for President and I will leave that blank if Hillary doesn’t run. The Nation doesn’t need such a thin skinned person who bawls about anything and everything a person says. We don’t need some one who will divide the races more than we are already divided. So far, Obama has done just that. He has fail to show good judgement in the past regarding his associations and his remarks. From his wife’s writing and remarks, she is more akin to the Black Panthers than any other organization or party or Country. But they can get up and say they were taken out of context or he didn’t hear his pastor speak hate during the 20 years he sat in that church or he didn’t associate closely with him or Rezco, etc. and all the news people accept it and agree with him.
I know for a fact, this campaign has made me realize why the news media’s ratings are in the tank. I think most are bias, hypocrits, and mainly try their best to get some bad will between candidates started. They are after a confrontation, to hell with Country, or anything else.

Posted by: Mickey | May 26, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

JKM: Have you been living in wonderland? The primaries are not over yet so why should she get out of the race? There are three primaries left and the voter’s are entitled to vote for either candidate of their choice. The Obama camp wants Hillary to quit because the fear her winning Puerto Rico and that looks bad for Obama because he cannot win and will not win the battleground states. And you know the reason why they didn’t vote for him. The same reason I won’t. I believe he made deals with the superdelegates behind the scenes promising them the world. He is as crooked as Rezko and its people like you that don’t know any better.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 26, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Well Mickey, if thats true, then YOU fell for them. Ironic you would spend the better part of your post bashing Obama then finish with “the media is mainly trying their best to get some bad will between the candidates started”. So who’s the hypocrite??

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

Bill’s right about this. No matter what she says it’s always a problem with someone.
Gotta like ABC’s choice of picture of Obama. Hand over heart – so patriotic. More hype from Mr. O and company.

Posted by: CtTexan01 | May 26, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Thats it Oracle, support HRC she supports gas taX panders. Have you noticed how everytime HRC says something dumb we all blame the media and Obama?? And Obama gives the broad the benefit of the doubt?? Then you notice how she trys to jump on every gaffe?? And guess what……..SHES STILL LOSING!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kibs | May 26, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

the clintons surely know what they are doing, this is a blackmail,they are obnoxiously holding the party at ransome,they want to hijack the veepee spot by way of intimidation, but i only hold super delegates responsible for delaying and dancing to clintons devilish music. God bless america and God save america. Obama’08

Posted by: jerry | May 26, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Lol. Kibs, I thought it was the Obama supporters with the college degrees. Lol. And whos broke??

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Like Hillary said in January ” This thing will be over on February 5th” What happened Hillary? The American people finally took a look at you!!!

Posted by: Jamie | May 26, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

Bill Clinton is right. Obama can’t win the general election, and I for one, will not vote for a dangerously inexperienced Obama….this is not managing a company, for God’s sakes, it’s the US – how does he have a clue about how to manage the economy and the military? He does NOT. Hillary does – I don’t get what is going on, but Bill is so correct. I have never seen a candidate ridiculed – no matter what she says Obama’s campaign twists her words and jumps all over her…she is a respected, successful US Senator. This is the guy who supposedly “transcends politics”, brings us together – what a joke – what a laugh. He will be trounced in the general election and deserves to be.

Posted by: Jenna | May 26, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

ABC When you talking about Hillary being spider women how about run of the mouth Michelle Obama whose mouth runs like a river every time she is on the platform speaking. It is understood that if she becomes the first lady she will have to be rehabbed. Those clothers and hair style will have to go and she will have to keep her mouth shut. She is not he speaker that Jackie, Nancy, Laura Bush or Hillary are and she is suppose to be so educated. Give me a break. If that’s what college did for her they should close it down.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 26, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Bill Clinton condeming anyone who pressures or strongarms a superdelegate?
He’s so precious.

Posted by: harkin | May 26, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

And to all the women like Mariann, I wanna see how far your lil feminist movement goes with McCain in the white house. But hey, I’ll give you respect, at least you admitted you’re racist. The good thing is you are the last of a dying breed.

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Bill Clinton speaks the truth. The press would not be allowed to say anything comparable in regard to Obama. The misogynist media will place a weak nominee in the race and the Dems will not win. Americans are being herded like sheep to the slaughter as they are manipulated by the misogynist men visible in this country. Hatred of women and this particular woman shows the real weakness of this country … the men in power. Their hatred will suffocate any chance of a better future for this country because the whole world is watching this election and we should be ashamed of the conduct of these men. Obama may win the nomination but the unfairness of this so called democratic process, reflected in the hatred of women spewed by the press will undermine his candidacy, the media and this country. What real leader wins by following the path of such hatred? Don’t think for a nano second that women aren’t paying attention. Misogynist men would do well to think carefully about this, if they can remember how to think. Thinking men would do well to warn their misogynist brothers of the consequences of misogyny, particularly when women are no longer shackled to a man. Rest and bask in your nasty misogyny; we are plotting and planning. Next time, we won’t be so easy or so nice.

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | May 26, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Why is Bill boy doing this to the democratic party,he is so respected by many and he should stay away from cooking up rancour; another 4 year term of the Bush and Mcbush will be deplorable to all America…so please take it easy Bill, you are my hero..

Posted by: charles | May 26, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

The Oracle: That’s where you are wrong. Why do you think that WVA and KY didn’t vote for Obama and the battleground states. Get a grip. Why shouldn’t they vote for their own race when the blacks are voting for Obama. Why don’t you pack your bags and move to the southside of Chicago. I think you would be confortable there. I understand Obama won’t live in that area and won’t even visit there and he is half black. He lives in Hyde Park with his neighbor Ayers who bombed this country three times. They make a good pair. Obama is just as crooked as Ayers is dangerous.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | May 26, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Well, I’m out. There are no intelligent HRC supporters on here that can actually debate.(So much for being smart) I only like debating with intelligent people on substantive issues, alas, no HRC fan on this blog fits that description. Bye Bye.

Posted by: The Oracle | May 26, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Those who are talking about voting for McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination are the ones who need a Democrat in the White House the most. If you are willing to cross party lines to keep a Democrat out, then you are really not a true Democrat.

Posted by: VJmem | May 26, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

This is the response the nation receives when entitlement is spurned.

Posted by: Paul Olson | May 26, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

It is amazing. The Clintons have been out sleezed and out lied.

Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | May 26, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Bill Clinton has no room to talk about others “disrespecting” his wife. He did a bang up job of that himself over the years and in the White House. The man will always be a pig in my mind.

Posted by: Joy | May 26, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Boy..This blog has really turned to straight GARBAGE. Have ANY of you people EVER taken a debate class in college?…..GEESH
There is absolutely NO content whatsoever….only name-calling and school-yard insults. When it gets like this, the supporters of BOTH candidates make the candidates look bad.
Come on folks !!!!!!

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Being an ex Clinton partisan I have found Bill’s stream of his reasoning a bit unsettling. As he well knows when you decide to be a candidate it comes with the understand that opposition is part of the envirnoment and not something to be considered part of some devious plan by the dark side to derail the deserving.
Their vast Right Wing or Media conspiracies are over stated to the point of concern that it maybe time for the Clintons to consider some professional consulting.

Posted by: Chet | May 26, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

More self pity from the masters of whining, spinning everything to make it look as if there is more sniper fire out there. Obama has shown far more class and maturity throughout. The calls for her to leave the race are based on facts of a poor showing by key metrics, and would be applied to any candidate with the same results. But the shameless Clintons will whine their way to Denver.

Posted by: 247dem | May 26, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

So what is the consensus on Sen. Clinton? Is she more the Great White Hope or the Great Female Hope? There is nothing false about hope.

Posted by: w_roos | May 26, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Obama is disrespecting all of the people who voted for him;presenting himself and his campaign as the agent of change. Checkout the Newsweek article titled “Obama’s Lobbyist Connection”

Posted by: reality 80 | May 26, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

It’s all about the power and money to the Clintons. So sad to see Bill Clintons legacy going down the toilet.

Posted by: PhilBgood | May 26, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Just ask Howard Dean how he would have been treated if he denied saying what he said and made up stories about sniper fire while going broke and losing eleven contests in a row.
I seem to remember months of talk about how Hillary’s campaign was a tight ship, a disciplined, make no mistakes affair. This was the coverage even after she came in third in Iowa, even after her campaign sent out releases and agitated to close polls early in Nevada, even after her super Tuesday when her supporters had arranged a New Mexico caucus with nowhere near enough ballots (they “estimated” that they would need half the ballots of 2004), even after the third largest city in New Mexico, heavily Obama supporting Rio Rancho, had only one polling station, and an eight hour wait to write in your vote on any old scrap of paper only to have it disqualified later.
Even after this, even after Super Tuesday and South Carolina, the media called Clinton’s a “make-no-mistakes, tightly disciplined campaign.” Only when she lost eleven races in a row, when she went broke, when her husband started claiming the race card had been played on him when he said something stupid which Obama’s campaign did not not comment on, only then did the media’s coverage shift.
Only when she began to talk about sniper fire while attacking Obama for things he neither said nor heard did it shift. Only when Bill Clinton began wagging his finger and denying he said things he said on tape did the coverage shift. The Clintons had to work harder than any candidate in history to earn their negative coverage. Just ask Howard Dean how he would have been treated if he denied saying what he said and made up stories about sniper fire while going broke and losing eleven contests in a row.

Posted by: arbite | May 26, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

I just want to know how the pre-sumptive democratic nominee since 2004, HRC, is losing this campaign. Lest we forget that no one gave BO a snowball’s chance in hell. Now she cries wolf when she has the divisive person in this campaign. If people choose not to vote for BO for whatever reason let it be based on policy not his skin color or his religion. The last time I checked Rev. Wright has not paid one bill in my house or has he paid my car note. I really could care less if Sen. McCain has John Hagee on his side because what bill has John Hagee paid for me. I really, really don’t give a DAMN if Hilary is a woman and Barack is black as long as the quality of my life and that of my children improves.

Posted by: r8der40 | May 26, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

its all about the money and the power to barack obama too!! or maybe you think he is running just because he cares about us!!!right get real!! he had his lawyers get every candidate for senate on the ballot in chicago removed so he would have no one to challenge him for the nomination!! shoulds like a good man huh???

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

I am truly amazed at the spin on this campaign. Senator Clinton never wanted to be seen as the female candidate, now after race bating she is gender bating, trying to get feminist organizations to say she is mistreated because she is a woman. If she is President she cannot cry and run in a room when a World Leader tells her she can’ have her way. The blonde shedding tears cannot be played out in American anymore. As for Senator Obama, if he were a White Man He would have had the nomination after Super Tuesday. And for those people who say they won’t vote for Obama if he is the nominee….then you will be a part of the continued downfall of America…unemployment, sending jobs oversees….and get ready to all Dubai to handle your complaints againtst the phone compant, your payroll dapertment and your computer problems…..You ever wonder why those 1-800 #s always have people answering with thick accents???? They have our jobs and they are not in the U.S. So when you think like that, you are making your own bed…so sleep in it after November…. Just like you people who put this current prez in because you thought John Kerry was too Bostonian. You thought you could relate to BUBBA and you can…what does that say about you and how you got screwed!!!!!

Posted by: Candylane | May 26, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Candylane: well if we are not willing to vote for a cry-baby i guess we will all just have to vote for john mccain because he is the only candidate that has not cryed!!
barack obama is a bigger cry-baby than hillary!!
really if you are going to say something bad about one of the candidates you should make sure your candidate of choice has not done the same thing!!!
barack obama said!!wah,wah everybody leave my wife alone wah,wah!!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

today is Memorial day:
remember? it’s that day: a time to stop and recall all those, who have served to protect our rights and to preserve this country. all those, who went off to war to keep families safe: the first to establish sovereignty, the second to secure unity and end slavery, next to wage against the forces of nazism and end genocide, the next to do more of the same. then , came the battles to quell forces of communism and to preserve our belief systems and human rights, and now there are the battles against threats of terrorism and to re-inforce the values that are human life, and to preserve our way of life…
it does not matter whether i agree with the policies that led to each of these confrontations. it does matter that i honor those, who felt compelled to answer that particular call for country and family.
do i honor them if i abuse speech and use its freedom to spread hate and divisiveness between us. is that what it was all for?
to the media and news press, as well as for many of the commenters, i ask this: why do you choose to use your voices to foster hate and division? you (and, you know who you are)choose to abuse the privileges of free speech, and doing so – render those who lost their lives (on your account) purposeless. more is the pity.
it begs the question:
“what is your point?”
it seems there are some, who are easily gratified, seeing one candidate or the other through a spirit of disdain. but,
do you see? the disdain is in you and it only reflects onto the outer world. it is you. you mirror your own discontent and at times, maliciousness.
honestly, you cannot see into the hearts of either of these candidates or one another, except through the biases of your own mind and heart…agendas.
this is a perfect day to reflect on thoughtful reasons that you want to select and elect a democratic nominee to represent you (your ideals). someone, who will represent you: and, to do this, you need to think. step back from all the dictates of the media and your own emotions.
look at the candidates, their platforms and prescriptions for addressing those issues. look at their records: look at their experience; look at their judgments. base your opinions on facts. let you become your best expert.
do not concern yourselves with opinions, agendas or conjecture that the so-called media and press experts heap upon you: they are being paid. do you know who is paying them? do you know why they have taken up with one side orthe other? it is not because they care about you or any of us. they are being paid to presnet information in a way and for reasons that their holding corporations have deemed most profitable. in order to have a good story line – they must have a ‘villain’ and a ‘hero’. it does not matter if the story line is true … what matters to them – if it sells.
just as, it was in their best interest to blind eye the reasoning for war in iraq. it is on their heads as much as bush administration for that one. they were the blowhards and bull horns for it. they also set the tone for al gore in 2000 — “wooden gore” vs. “compassionate bush” —but, let’s not make this about them – more than what is necessary. – America is about you! you! you! so, do not let yourselves be controlled or polluted by propaganda. do not let yourselves fall prey to the ravages of divisiveness. do not let them take this opportunity from you. there are market analysts and strategists and advertising gurus – who think they have you figured out and they are counting on you, their “target audience”, to go along with the program. going along – gives your power away … only to increase their profit margin, ratings, advertising budgets.
WAKE UP!!!!do the right thing. vote your conscience and make your vote count – base it on your convictions and issues that matter the most: think.
and -
freedom of speech is a right. it is also a privilege. please, use it to promote your better selves. honor those who have given all for its sake.
make the world a better place. the internet is also a place, part of our environment. please, respect yourselves and one another.
Let all of our voices be heard. It is the democratic way. Please, do not be swayed by the media. instead, be swayed by those, who fought to preserve our rights.
However this election turns out – what will it mean if we do not count ALL the votes? UNCORRUPT THE POLITICS – - demand that all the votes be counted. Include the voters from Florida and Michigan. do not let the media or DNC demonize us, or marginalize our rights. we are you…
(fact check: of the candidates, hillary, barack and john e. – all had their name on the ticket In Michigan primary. the rules did not require that they take their names off and they were not asked to do so ((the rules stated that they could not actively campaign in michigan, though each did have some fundraising activity going on here))- those, who chose to remove their name – did so, for purely political reasons. – it had nothing to do with rules. at each opportunity, to correct the election – by having a revote, only one candidate refused. we can understand the political reasoning of this choice, but it does not engender a sense of trust or belief, that this candidate, as President, will invest courage when it comes to any of our constitutional rights. where is hope? I pray all involved in coming to a decision on this fundamental issue (whether directly or indirectly)), find the fortitude to do the right thing: count all the votes. and, not continue to make this ((oversight))a huge question mark, going forward …with whomever is the nominee. as, to not count all the voters in both of these states will overshadow the rest of the campaign).
please, encourage your candidates and the DNC to not divide by exclusion or marginalizing us further.

Posted by: linda | May 26, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

andy:Senator Obama has done nothing with grace, intellect or class.
please just keep on ignoring any thing bad about barack obama!! but bring up everything about hillary even if she’s not the one that did it or said it!!
some peeps want to play it both ways,rev.wright said that not barack,michelle said that not barack,but when it comes to hillary even if bill did it or said it lets blame hillary!!
did anyone bother to read michelle obama’s thesis paper?? i did and its down right hateful!! oh,but wait thats michelle not barack!! right???
barack is good!!barack is god!! barack has never said or done anything wrong or bad!! barack is god!! wow!!some people really have their heads stuck straight up their rears when it comes to barack obama!!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

‘Grace’ is simply not in the Clinton’s lexicon! Cannot help but wonder if Bill had made some commitments — possibly to some foreign powers — to get certain things accomplished ‘when’ Hillary became president. Would not put anything past either one of them!! Of all of the crooked politicians we have in this country today, would put those two at the top of the heap. Think they will do anything for power!!

Posted by: jack | May 26, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

It is fascinating to watch the Clinton’s implode with talk again of Conspiracy theories. They deserve to be out of the limelight forever

Posted by: davidm | May 26, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

The Democrats needs to ask themselves…will we win the election with Obama? I think if you think hard enough, and consider all the facts, you will realize, the answer is no.

Posted by: scott | May 26, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Andy: what be this change i keep hearing you people spout?? tell me what is he going to change????? how is he going to change it?????? if you post it and keep spouting it than you should be able to give me a really good clear cut answer!!! what is he going to change???? how is he going to change it??? how is he going to make the world a better place????????
is it just because he says he will???is it just because he promises change????
anyone can make all kinds of promises and give a good speach full of bull-crap but can they deliever in the end???
what is it that you know about this man that i don’t know??? please tell maybe i will have to change my opinion of him!! so do tell!!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am

John Pen how exactly is the nomination being stolen from Hillary.

Posted by: d | May 26, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Given the gruelling pace that this primary is putting the two candidates through, it is surprising that more gaffes haven’t been made, and that both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are still campaigning with such gusto! Bill Clinton is doing what most husbands riddled with guilt for past indiscretions do, he is supporting his ‘wife’ because it is what he must do to make up for all those times he was a philanderer and showed her no respect. If she were running as Hillary Rodham, instead of Hillary Clinton, her candidacy may have had more ‘punch’ and people in general would have had more admiration for a woman who defied the odds and rebuked her philandering husbands behavior. Hillary Clinton is a very insecure and therefore insincere person and as such, is not qualified to be President. Her problems have nothing whatsoever to do with Barack Obama, who has showed her more respect than anyone and continues to do so as he campaigns for the nomination… This makes him, by far, the most distinguished, dignified, wise, confident, strong and classy candidate to run for President in well over a generation. Let us all hope that he will be America’s President on inaugeration day January 2009 as he indeed brings new hope for a better America and the world..

Posted by: robin | May 26, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Jordan,
I’M GLAD YOU ASKED !!
These are just a few, but here goes:
He’s pro-choice, he wants to regulate financial institutions to protect home mortgages, he’s for ending tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas, he for videotaping ALL capital punishment interrogations, he wants to increase pell grants for students, he’s for conserving and developing alternative fuels, and he’s for meeting with our “enemies” WITH CONDITIONS.
Now these are just a few, but you asked and I provided. I have done my research on the man and KNOW that people who don’t want to support this man will not NO MATTER WHAT.
All of you that want to speak about the muslim, racist and he hates America crap, you go right ahead with that weak garbage. But if you want to know about the issues……LETS GO !!!
OBAMA 08!!!!!!

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

This comment is for former president Clinton….I don’t think the media disrespected Senator Clinton. Senator Clinton ran a very negative campaign and consistently put her foot her mouth by saying and making issues out things that to people don’t even care about. Mr. Clinton you are the one who disrepected your wife…think about it…no pund meant.

Posted by: islandwoman59 | May 26, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

I think Bill Clinton despite that fact that he was disrespected during his own campaign (Jennifer Flowers), is wrong about the Hillary bashing. Both Obama and Bill’s wife have been disrespected. I am 59 yrs old and do not believe his statement that his wife is the MOST disrespected candidate ever. Is he asking the American public to respect her more than he has(Monica Lewinsky) while in public office. If the Clintons are losing respect it is their own doing. Bow out now gracefully, with dignity and help us get this great country back on it’s feet. Mr& Mrs Clinton, please do not continue to hurt the chances for CHANGE that will save us from disaster.

Posted by: Camp Cook | May 26, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Jordan – I will try to give you clear cut reasons that I support Obama. I’m not sure, however, it is an honest question on your part or simply a statement. If you are really interested: I support him because he has put together a winning, grass roots campaign and raised more money than any other candidate by doing so. A much larger percent of his money is from small donors than any other candidate. That alone takes organizational and leadership skills. It also shows he knows how to pick the right people and energize them. I have read his books and it is clear from them that he has a vision that I agree with. I also read Hillary’s book and it is clear that she and Bill set out to be President. It was only a question of who would make it first. I agree with Obama’s plan to get us out of the war. He said as “carefully as we were careless getting in”. That, and other statements, show that he is pragmatic, calm and thoughtful. I think he will LISTEN to other opinions and leaders. I don’t think that is something Hillary is good at. I am impressed at how he handled the Rev. Wright controvsey. He spoke honestly and directly to the American people. He didn’t throw the Rev. to the dogs at first, I feel, because of a sense of loyalty and respect. He later was forced to change that position but I believe it was a hurtful decision on his part. I like that he is a family man, who obviously cares deeply for his wife and kids. I respect his work as a community organizer in Chicago. (I lived in Chicago at the time and was aware of his work there.) I was very happy at the time when he ran for the Senate in Illinois. I feel he is a real example of how anyone can make it in this country. A bi-racial person from a divorced, one parent home – is not the formula for success in the USA. But Obama took advantage of every opportunity out there and is an example that if you are pragmatic, tenacious and work harding, success is possible. He is, I feel a natural born leader – this is obvious because he has inspired so many to support him. He was the clear underdog when this campaign started but is no longer the underdog. I don’t agree with a lot of his policies -he is too liberal in many respects for me……but so is Hillary. I just think it is more important to get someone that can inspire others and who will earn respect around the world. I think Obama is the best of the three persons running to do that. Does that help answer your question?

Posted by: Joy | May 26, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Let’s all look back, Hillary and the rest of them said the votes in MI/FL
would not count. She even went as far to say, I will campaign thru Feb. 5th and then the race will be OVER, the votes in MI/FL don’t count and don’t need to cause the race will be over. Go back and check your fact’s.
This is ridiculous. Think about it people. She only started all this crap when she wasn’t winning. Do your homework.

Posted by: Kim | May 26, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Hillary is the strongest and smartest candidate. She is awesome and if her supporters stay home in November or vote for McCain – Obama is toast!
Also, can some Obama supporter let me know the names of those additional seven states that Obama thinks we have? When do they hold thier primaries?
Answer please……..

Posted by: ch | May 26, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Why, please tell me why she can change the rules now, WHY. I would like an answer and not the same crap I have been hearing. It’s on tape what she said, why now should the rules change.

Posted by: Kim | May 26, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

ch, at least he didn’t repeat it over and over like the sniper fire in Bosnia.

Posted by: d | May 26, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

ch,
How is Hillary the strongest and smartest when her campaign is TWENTY MILLION in debt and loosing in delegates and pop. vote!
Come on people……don’t just type ANYTHING. Give SOME proof, D@mn !!!

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

I will be voting for McCain in the fall because of how Hillary Clinton has been treated.
Let the media, DNC, Howard Dean have Obama, but they can’t make me vote for him in the fall.
The primary has been crooked with the caucuses and superdelegates. I, also, read how Obama manipulated the Michigan ballots. Sorry, I have no interest in allowing the DNC manipulate me into voting for Obama.
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.

Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | May 26, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Next, he will be holding five metal marbles in his hand, jiggling them, talking about everyone being against him… Sounds like a made for TV movie to me!!!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: jackt51 | May 26, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Yes, because it is completely inconceivable to the Clintons that a non white, non-working class candidate who has managed thus far not to be assassinated can earn the respect of the superdelegates on his own merits.
It is also inconceivable to the Clintons that many people just don’t buy their bullcrap comments that require an interpreter just to understand what they are really saying.
I still sense that the Clintons still feel entitlement in “getting something out of this.” Obama owes them nothing.
I am rather enjoying watching the Clintons self destruct in public.

Posted by: Mia | May 26, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

we don’t elect people according to polls.you and everyone in america knows that polls are not reliable.yes,we are pressuring hillary to drop out ,or for super ds to put an end to your fantasy.the reason is ,we don’t want you or your wife to say anymore racist and sexist remarks,or planting seeds in some crazy’s mind.the least you can do,if your just concerned about everyone getting to vote,is to suspend your campaign,until the primaries are over.that way you can keep from saying any more party-damaging remarks.by the way,we don’t want you anywhere near the white house,until you can learn to leave other woman alone,and keep your drawers zipped up.

Posted by: LogicalAA | May 26, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

it’s very simple, I vote for HRC in the Florida primary and if the DNC try to play some funny game with my vote, I may follow my governor and vote for McCain,maybe In just won’t vote, I don’t care about other problems and dreams , I want have the same security that I had on Bill Clinton years… please do not let thoses politics that don’t have votes or leadership dominate the country

Posted by: Mr. Florida | May 26, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

When I first seen the headline I thought Bill was talking about Ron Paul… tell him to stop crying

Posted by: Andrew | May 26, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

can any Hillary supporters answer my question? Why shouls the rules be changed now.
It is on tape that the votes wouldn’t count!!!!!!!!!!!!! In fact they didn’t need to count because she will have wrapped this up by FEB. 5TH.
Please tell me why????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kim | May 26, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Bill said “She is winning the general election”
What? What planet is Bill on?
Last time I checked Hillary couldn’t even win the DEMs candidacy!!!
By the way, Bill & Hillary, what’s with all this whining? It wasn’t too long ago you both said “IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE HEAT THEN YOU GOTTA GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!!!”
How’s them KARMA apples!!!

Posted by: LogicalAA | May 26, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Mr Florida we can’t go back to the past. The world is completely different than it was under Bill.

Posted by: d | May 26, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

So brainwashed are these Clinton supporters, they are buying into the conspiracy that Obama had fixed the Michigan primary and stolen the election. Something can only be stolen if it was yours in the first place. Which, I guess if you believe if you were entitled to the presidency, you would believe that it was stolen.
How, pray tell, can you fix an election when you are not on the ballot? The other candidates took their names of the ballot as well. Why aren’t the Clintons blaming them? Oh–right, because they are not beating a Clinton.
Apparently only a Clinton can win on their merits, and Barack is only here because he has gotten a free pass. Never mind that Hillary can’t even keep her own campaign in the black.
Go ahead. Vote for McCain out of spite. And if things don’t get any better for you, you only have yourselves to blame.

Posted by: Mia | May 26, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Mia, Amen to that.

Posted by: Kim | May 26, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Jordan, What do you mean about ” Change”, change is always good. I ‘ve voted all of my life and never new WHAT or WHO a candidates was all about. When I look at O’Bama I see a new vision for America….it’s like a transfusion of whole blood, because this country has become Anemic with the last two presidencies. We argue about a persons skin color which is insignificant to me. We all are humans and created by God.
I see that you are a HILLARY supporter, and thats your choice. A vote for Macain is a wasted vote…The man is to old and his ideals are also. Don’t vote at all…..lol

Posted by: islandwoman59 | May 26, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Mia: barack had the contest for the senate seat in Illinois rigged so its not to hard to believe he would rig any contest!!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The first time I remember seeing Bill Clinton, he was introducing Dukakis at the Democratic convention–and he went on and on and on and on! It became such a national joke that Clinton went on Johnny Carson to talk and laugh about it (Johnny’s intro of Mr. C. also went on and on and on–very funny!!).
Yet, Bill’s first appearance on the national stage showed us how much he loves the spotlight, and you can still see it now as he and Hillary are leaving the stage kicking and screaming (however “subdued” his rant was here). People want Hillary to quit because she can’t win, even with MI and FL. It isn’t because people are against the democratic process. Rather, people see this election as crucially important and want to get onto the contest between McCain and Obama. If Hillary is so strong nationally, why then is Obama winning?

Posted by: JeffreyD | May 26, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Why continue the campaign? Follow the money…
The key is to establish the notion of a close political loss at the hands of a flawed DNC process, a biased media and deception by her opponent. (Depending on their future relationship, she may seek to point blame at Bill as well.)
Why?
Pay off her debts ($20 million); another book deal for her “fans”; ($10 million) 4 years of speaking fees ($25 million); countless TV appearances on cable (to market her book, remain relevant); a technological soapbox via the web a la Huffington); consulting fees ($30 million); fundraising for a “new” Hillary Foundation ($100 million); Chesea’s entry into the “family business”.
Like promoting a rock-band brand, the Clinton’s are building brand equity with the label’s advance and other people’s money by staying in as long as possible. 2012 may look like too much work compared to playing “celebrity politics”. As Bill fades at the cash register, Hillary grabs the financial baton and keeps the money rolling in.
Just ask Al Gore.

Posted by: gorgon '08 | May 26, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

First its a vast right wing conspiracy to cover up his “sexual indiscretions” and now its, what, a left-wing conspiracy covering up poll results?
If Sen. Clinton wants to continue to make her case that she would be the best democratic nominee, then by all means let her do so. But let her and her surrogates do so using accurate and truthful means, without this kind of misleading hyperbole.
Talk about polls if you want to, but make sure to note that there as many polls showing Obama leading as Clinton. There are polls showing both get more than 270 electral votes (albeit in different ways). And general election polls five months out are pretty meaningless in anyway (just ask Bill Clinton circa 1992 when he was way down in the polls five months out).
Make your case than MI and FL should be seated. But stop blaming the Obama camp for it. Mention that your own advisor Harold Ickes was one of the people who voted to strip all the delegates. Mention that you agreed to it. Your own spokesman Terry MacAuliffe, as DNC chair, said the same thing. And for goodness sake, stop comparing an intraparty nominating contest to abolition, women’s suffrage and election in Zimbabwe. Last I heard, no one was running around beating up teachers, clergy and jailing journalists. That’s how they run elections in Zimbabwe.
Try to make you case for popular vote. But do mention that you knew (and said!) that delegates were what counted not to many months ago. Mention that while you count MI and FL, you also have to discount 4 caucus states to do. Mention that winning PR doesn’t mean anything because they don’t vote in the general election. And do mention that your opponent wasn’t even on the ballot in one of those states and you won’t give him any delegates (so who’s blocking allowing MI now?).
My only request for Sen. Clinton (and I would ask the same of Sen. Obama) is the campaign truthfully. If anything, such obviously misleading, half-truthful and inconsistent arguments hurt her campaign. And people don’t elect people they don’t trust.

Posted by: LogicalAA | May 26, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Bill Clinton is absolutely right.
HRC’s main problem all along is that she isn’t a man.

Posted by: beverett | May 26, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Myself and lots of other people still admire and respect Bill Clinton. But you have to seperate the two – Hillary is not Bill. She acts like she has an ax to grind (because of Bill’s philandering) and she’s portraying the worst of sexisim – riding on her husband’s coattails.

Posted by: Caddycts | May 26, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Cry and cry ……loser………I can win booo whooo.
Game is over, clinton loser supporters!
cry babies :)

Posted by: refort37 | May 26, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Is he referring to the way he and Hillary have treated Barack Obama? Because from where I sit and look at my TV, they have been the most disrespectful. But because they believe this campaign should be theirs and not reflect the will of the voters, they are whining about what they PERCEIVE to be mistreatment of Hillary.

Posted by: BJ | May 26, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Not only has the”poor little matchgirl’ shtick gotten stale (as if Sen. Clinton were some naive street waif who has never entertained even a malicious thought let alone uttered a hostile word), but former president Clinton’s persistent narcissism chokes the political atmosphere like mustard gas. Obama won. Obama won because he is a better candidate with a better message with a better organization.
Carp all you want about media bias but if any other candidate were in Sen. Clinton’s position there wouldn’t be seat for her surrogates at the Sunday talk show table this late in the process. She has received far more free media than to which she is justifiably entitled –if Bill doesn’t like the quality of that coverage then he should go raise more money so as to better control the message

Posted by: Peter Venkman | May 26, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Jordan,
Obama voted AGAINST partial-birth abortions(Oct. 07)

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

There is disrespect all around in a heated political campaign, unfortunately. I heard a comment from Maureen Dowd this weekend, which really struck home with me: that Hillary Clinton should be portraying herself as a trailblazer instead of a victim. So she isn’t going to win, but we now can all see a woman as president. She didn’t lose because she is a woman. Many of my female friends chose Obama because of his message. Though I am proud as a woman of Hillary’s candidacy, I have tired of her methods. She may stay in as long as she likes, she has earned that right, but she shouldn’t try to destroy everyone else on her way out.

Posted by: louielouie | May 26, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

By definition, if she was the best candidate shouldn’t she be winning by the rules???
Clearly she is not the best because she is broke, behind in delegates (which are what counts) and lost by almost every metric except New Clintonian Math.
This is not sexism, its not a con-spiracy, its called losing and you need to learn to do it gracefully. They use polls about the electoral college, but then reject the delegate math and use popular vote for the primaries… ITS INSANE!!!
The system is delegates and electoral college, you can’t pick and choose when you use one or the other. This is not a 3rd world country or Russia when we just appoint her president because she tells us she is best…. she needs to win the actual election.

Posted by: LogicalAA | May 26, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Those of us who are democrates need to remember that! I am not so blind by the nonsense the media is saying that I lose sight of that.
No candidate is perfect. Non of the people around him/her are perfect. We need to focus on getting the republicans out of office before there isn’t much of America left.
Did anyone notice we are now sending $100,000 to North Korea in aid because of a train disaster? We still haven’t cleaned up New Orleans.
Did anyone notice that $165B was just earmarked for another year of war, while we are having a hard time putting gas in our vehicle? And what about those gas prices and food prices?
John Kennedy was inexperienced when he became president, but he wanted something better than what we had at the time. He made a difference.
We need better now. We have had too many years of hardship and heartache
under the republican plan.
Vote Democrat!

Posted by: Kay | May 26, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Bill and Hillary are now in the blame game in their campaign. Everyone else is at fault for her loss but her or her losing campaign strategy to win the nomination. Remember when Bill was telling Obama to either be able to take the heat or get out of the race?. Well Bill and Hillary should take there own advice and instead of whining about losing they need to accept defeat and move on. If there was any doubt about their intentions to win at all cost regardless of the effect on the party, those doubts are now wiped away with Hillary’s latest words and actions.

Posted by: Paul | May 26, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

i do not care if it cost the dnc 500 million dollars they need to redo all of the voting in a fair unbiased campaign,no superdelegates should have come forward to support either candidate until all americans had their chance to vote,that is called trying to sway the public’s opinion,any superdelegates that have already pleadged their support before all states have voted should be stripped of the title of superdelegate,superdelegates are not needed until all voting is done and no nominee has reached the 2026 needed delegates!!
its bad enough that our news stations have been so biased in their attempts to uphold certain candidates,but its inexcusable for our senators and other public officals to try to force their wishes on us the american people,they are paid and elected by us to be our voice not to just make their own choice,we need to stand up to them and let them know their jobs are dependant upon our votes and if we do not approve of what they are doing they will not recieve the support of our votes in their future careers!!
i will continue to write to and email the dnc and encourage others to do the same so that they understand that we the people are not happy with their decision to pick our candidate for us!!!

Posted by: just facts | May 26, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Why not go to the convention, just like Teddy Kennedy did? The difference between Kennedy and Hillary is the gap in delegates: Hillary is behind about 187, Kennedy was behind Carter by 960. The other difference was the media.
The media today is brutally against Clinton – it’s sickening how unfair the media has been to Hillary. The media in 1980 did not call on Kennedy to step down (despite Carter’s huge lead).
Hillary is not perfect, nobody is perfect.But based on what I know of her remarkable public career, she is a good woman and deserves a lot better treatment than she is getting.

Posted by: mediahack | May 26, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

These people think that if they say things, then they will come true. it’s more lies, but what else can we expect?
Hillary and Bill: if you lay down with dogs, you end up with fleas. And by fleas, I don’t mean delegates or superdelegates because Obama has 49 to your steady 246. Get the hint and drop out so we can fix the damage that has occurred.
The thing that I find ironic, is that Hillary wants to be seen as a strong woman; next she’s a victim who has been never been treated so disrespectfully just for being a woman.
What a load of crap! She’s at this juncture because she got herself there due to her disrespect of the system. Nobody respects her because she doesn’t respect her fellow candidate, the delegates and superdelegates, of even her voters.
Get out of the political system and stay out!

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Skeptic | May 26, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

mj you left something out:
GO HOME HILLARY,08.

Posted by: reaganfan | May 26, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Billl Clinton was the best president we ever had and now they are treating him like dirt. Shameful!

Posted by: MikeT | May 26, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Last time I checked, respect has to be EARNED………Hillary has NOT earned any respect because not only does she disrespect the process (only when she started loosing, of course), she has shown no respect for voters – and especially for herself! Which is she…. a fighter, or a victim ?
Whichever suites her at any point in time.
Hillary, please show some respect and some class – you are doing more harm than good to the women’s cause now.
It’s too late for you to bow out gracefully – don’t go away mad…..just go away!

Posted by: Elaine Barr | May 26, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Bill and Hillary both act as though no one is aware of anything. They can both speak lies, but people are far too intelligent to fall for it.
Now, Bill… got get me a drink.

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Skeptic | May 26, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH PRESIDENT CLINTON ON THIS ONE. THE MEDIA HAS TREATED BARACK OBAMA LIKE HE’S RUNNING FOR PROM KING AND ALL THE WHILE DOING EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO DEMEAN ANY OF HILLARY’S VICTORIES. EVEN WHEN SHE KICKED HIS BUTT IN TEXAS, RHODE ISLAND AND OHIO THAT NIGHT, WE RECIEVED VERY SHORT-LIVED MEDIA COVERAGE……..
I’M AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORTER OF HILLARY CLINTON AND I MUST SAY THAT NOW I’M NOT SURE WHOM I’LL VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER. I FEEL THAT THE MEDIA AS WELL AS SOME SUPERIOR DEMOCRATS REALIZE THAT OBAMA WILL NOT WIN IN NOVEMBER, BUT HAVE CREATED SUCH A HUGE PEDESTAL FOR OBAMA TO STAND ON THAT IF THEY PULL THEIR SUPPORT NOW THEY WILL BE VIEWED AS RACISTS. THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS STRATEGICALLY AND CAUTIOUSLY PLAYED THE RACE CARD THROUGH OUT THE CAMPAIGN. HERE WE HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT IS WINNING IN THE POPULAR VOTE IN STATES THAT MATTER IN A GENERAL ELECTION AND THE MEDIA IS SELLING US A CANDIDATE WHO MAKES GOOD SPEECHES AND HAS NO EXPERIENCE…… GO FIGURE!

Posted by: Eric | May 26, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

I think that Barack Obama will win the primary, but as the general election goes, I dont think he has a chance. I am in California, which has been reliably democratic in the last four elections. However, now the numbers aren’t so good for democrats in California. California was heavily for Hillary Clinton during the primary and she is favoured heavily in the general. However, Arizona is our neighboring state and we have witnessed John McCain, coming over to dems side many times on the senate floor. So we do feel that John McCain knows what he is doing. Also John McCain has a very strong conservative bloc in California. Many would be surprised that there are plenty of conservative latinos and asians in California. And those two groups pushed Hillary Clinton into the winning arena for the primaries. So this will be a great fight for us Californians to see. Just last week, John McCain was in Stockton and I can tell you there, it was jammed pack full of Stocktonians of all races, different gender pools, everyone. And why did we go? Because we understood that he is not scared to walk acrosst he aisle to cast his vote. Barack Obama says that he does go across the aisle but his record begs him to differ. Us Californians were hit really ahrd with the economy problem and many pundits says we will vote for Barack Obama because he is our saviour, but the pundits has put their own feets in their mouths because now we are more cautious on whome we elect for office. We know investigate the candiates. John McCain is propositioning his economic plan and so is Barack Obama, but the economy comes with experience. I.E. Bill Clinton being governor and Hillary knowing the ins and out of the eocnomy.
And it is fact the media favoured Barack Obama from the beginning. And Hillary had no chance of winning over the media. It was a sexist campaign. The things he said about linking Hillary to Anne Oakley, ‘you are likable enough,’ ‘you are very divisive.’ Things like that are not htings to say to a woman because they have felt that throughout their whole lives.
Another point that I want to make it that Barack Obama supporters are going over the top in these issues because they are imply bullying people now. They are calling everyone left and right racist or stupid for voting for HIllary. Let me tell you that this person here writing this college educated and still young. However, I will not be bullied into voting for a candidate that i feel is not ready. And yes, I have been yelled at and bullied by Obama supporters. I believe that they brought him to rise and will eventually bring him down (It happened to George Bush).
Also, I was watching a Harry Potter film yesterday with my neice and starting connecting some things from the movie to this presidential cycle. I couldnt help notice that in a sense, Barack Obama was someone like Voldemort and his followers the Death Eaters. These Death Eaters area always bullying, saying harsh things etc. in order to their way. In a sense putting fear into people’s head by saying if you dont vote for Barack Obama you a racist, putting world in great peril, and saying you are uneducated. That is just my opinion. But think out of the box. Stand by your vote and vote for whom and what you believe in. I voted for Hillary because she supports gay issues more than Barack Obama. I voted for Hillary because she understands the economy. I voted for Hillary because she is the greater good. Once Barack Obam has proven to me that he knows how to work the government for hte benefit of the people, but substance behind his rheteoric then maybe I’ll consider voting for him in November, or John McCain. Hey Im a Republican….

Posted by: ConcernedWorld | May 26, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Jordan,
I can understand that you are fed up with this whole election. People will support whomever they want. I just get tired of the venom. My main concern is that we CANNOT have McCain. We have an administration that wants to play word games with this war….A WAR FOR GOD’S SAKE!!
We were all upset and angry after 9/11, but the “John Wayne” mentality of Bush/McCain, is only going to make things worse. I have family members on their third and fourth tour. CRAZY
If Hillary somehow pulls this off, I’m behind her 100%. But now it looks like Barack.
I WILL NOT VOTE MCCAIN !!!!!

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Wow. Is Hillary the real Bush third term? Its inability to distinguish truth from fiction is amazing and the whining makes it worse. Hillary is losing because after spending its life in politics watching how campaigns were won, it chose to pay a lot of money to people who implemented an awful strategy. And in the end it will be my fault that it lost because Hillary has never been responsible for its shortcomings. It’s a vast right-wing, east coast latte sipping, African-American, media driven, non-white slasckers who don’t live in America conspiracy.

Posted by: tina | May 26, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

I think Hill and Bill have lost it, but I think McBush will destroy our country, so if for some twilight zone reason, Obama is not our candidate, I will vote for Clinton — but I will not be happy or have any sense of pride as a woman. She’s run a dirty misleading campaign and Obama has not.

Posted by: Marilyn | May 26, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Drama, Drama, Drama…I agree 100% with Ex-President Bill Clinton…This is rediculious! Are you so blind and death that you can’t see or hear what has been going on since the first debates. FIRST..Obama cried wolf,(she’s being racist–Waa) when the topic arose about King–and she stated it still took a president & congress to pass that into law (teaching him how the American system works)which he should have known!! Then after that any way, shape or form the media would try to make a simple comment into a racial issue with the Clintons (Wolf-Waa)…However another well know person could state something and my God!–it was A-OK! Of course they were supporters of Obama-go figure?? NEXT, she better not show emotion or it will show signs of weakness…But if a man shows emotion its shows that he is human–sort of one way there guys!! Well she is human to and not a Robot!! THEN with the Kennedy comment–well most everyone (older) would remember that–and it was in June and canadiates were still active in the campaign and it is nothing new–But oh boy lets blow that out of preportion! (Wolf/Wolf…Waa) One reporter/writer states he has gotten in her mind and she really meant that she is waiting for Obama to be assassinated, so why should she drop out!! I wonder who he supports??
Talk about Debates…what about when Obama stated he would sit down with all these other top foreign officals freely…but Hilary stated there had to be certain protocalls layed down first..Oh yea, later Obama changed his tune and used Hilary’s term with it depends on this & that…He wants to apease you all–My God!-people take off the blinders…I have taken notes and the one who hides things until caught is Obama…Oh I never heard Rev Wright say such things…still he attended for 20 yrs and Rev. Wright said it all when he said Obama is playing politics and distancing himself, BUT behind closed doors Obama completely agrees with him.
He as no less that threatened the media that they best keep his wife out of it!!(Wolf-Foul-play–Waa) Well if Hilary’s spouse can be slamed-dunked so can the Mrs….fair game as I see it!! Now I wonder how long the media will look upon Obama stating some reporters as the reason for racial/hate crimes against Hispanics. Well wait a minute…why did he not add Rev. Wright on that list…oh yea that was promoting racial/hate towards the White government…could that also include white/hispantic/and etc….need I say more. Some people can really pull the wool over the eyes of others….then there are some that are not so easy to fool!!

Posted by: jo | May 26, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

BJ wrote:
Is he referring to the way he and Hillary have treated Barack Obama? Because from where I sit and look at my TV, they have been the most disrespectful. But because they believe this campaign should be theirs and not reflect the will of the voters, they are whining about what they PERCEIVE to be mistreatment of Hillary.
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So you watch TV to find out the truth about each candidate? Since the main stream media is extremely pro-Obama, you’re NOT getting all the facts. You are getting just the spin on any facts they care to report, and mostly they don’t care to report on the facts. Try doing some research on Mr. Obama. He’s not a good man, not by a long shot.

Posted by: A. L.L. | May 26, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

say what:i agree with almost your whole post but i need more from barack obama before i can just give him my support!!
but right now i have to agree with ConcernedWorld.
Once Barack Obam has proven to me that he knows how to work the government for the benefit of the people,and puts some substance behind his rheteoric then maybe I’ll consider voting for him in November over John McCain.

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

She has only gotten this far because of the Republican votes gifted to her by Rush Limbaugh’s “Operation Chaos”and she deceitfully count these votes in her”popular vote” argument.The hypocrisy and shamelessness of this is seen when her “supporters”who cry sexism say they will vote for McCain,is he not also a man like Obama?

Posted by: nikolaij | May 26, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

true. she IS winning the electoral map bcuz barack is competing against a candidate in the primary voting process. mccain is the only choice for the republicans so his math has more of a calculus edge. however, if barack were not competing in this primary process and if hillary and bill were on board with barack that calculus would be more favorable for the democrats. this scenario had to have crossed their minds.

Posted by: the_shoparazzi in atlanta | May 26, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

There is little question that Bill Clinton is describing the situation in an accurate way, so what’s going on? It looks to me like the frantic denial of an effort to push Hillary out of the way is a part of that very effort. What are you so afraid of if it’s really all over? Let’s see what they think in Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Jim | May 26, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

Jim: I agree. It’s time to move beyond the Bush-Clinton era. Like most Americans, I believe it’s time for positive change. That’s why I’m supporting Senator Barack Obama.
what is the positive change you speak of?? do tell!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

A vote for Hillary = A vote for McCain

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Skeptic | May 26, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Bill Clinton has only spoken out what has been on the minds of millions of democrats. Shame on media. Shame on Obama. Shame on the Obamamaniacs.

Posted by: long-term democrat | May 26, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Jordan,
It’s all good
But PLEASE explain to me how you could go with McCain. Especially at a time when our economy is absolutely in the toilet. Not to mention this war.

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

History will show that the media played a powerful and bias favoritism for Obama in the 2008 primaries. Hillary, despite these obstacles has rallied strong in the end of the primary (Yes, her campaign has made mistakes too). I pray that the surge is enough and that Michigan and Florida votes will count(…and it should) and make Hillary the democratic nominee. History will show that super delegates need to be removed or diminished to a small select few. History will show that Caucus is an unfair way to vote candidates and must be re-tired. History will show that Hillary, the more experienced, proven candidate was unfairly treated by the male dominated media who was not ready for a strong female president. But, regardless what happens, Hillary has opened up opportunities for women in the world of politics. Hillary 2008 or beyond!

Posted by: mary | May 26, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

It is really rich for former President Bill Clinton to accuse others of showing disrepect to his wife. He who described Obama as a ‘fairy tale’ in New Hampshire and compared his victory in South Carolina with Jesse Jackson’s now has the gall to make such remarks. As I have written before, Senator John Edwards was the last Democratic candidate to win South Carolina and lose the nomination but President Clinton chose Jackson as the comparator to make a prediction that alas has turned out to be false. Why?
Finally, talking of respect, why has the former president’s wife, refused – at least since before the Pennsylvannian primaries – to mention Senator Obama by name? Why does she keep talking about him as “my opponent says…”; “my opponent is…” etc. Has he no name?
Perhaps Senator Clinton can begin showing some respect by referring to her fellow Senator by name and as “my opponent”.
Ekow

Posted by: Ekow Nelson | May 26, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Why do we care about the primary voting of Puerto Rico and Guam? I’m sure they’re lovely places, but do they pay taxes and vote in our general election? Did we add more states while I was sleeping? I thought Obama made a mistake with 57!

Posted by: louielouie | May 26, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

say what: because i have no proof that obama can or will bring us out of that toilet that president bush has put us in!!and he scares me a little thats why i need more for him than just words.
its too bad that we can’t make them all take a lie detector!!!
i am not a huge hillary fan either and i feel that we kind of got the shaft on candidates.

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Marilyn, you stated this well the pro-media treatment of Obama. Back in the 2000 and 2004 election, the media didnt do their job and allowed Bush to slide to the presidential seat. They are doing this again with Obama.
Mary

Posted by: mary | May 26, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

wow!! so much hate for our fellow americans!! what a sad place america has become!! maybe we could all look at the positive side no matter who wins we are rid of president bush!!! its been a long hard 8 years for most of us and when it comes down to it we will have to make the best of it no matter who wins the general election and hating on our fellow americans just because we don’t agree on everything is not going to make anything better!!
i wish i had never heard the names hillary clinton and barack obama its like a bad dream that keeps playing over and over!!
i do not know who is going to be the best president but i pray that our god leads us to the right choice,the best choice.

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

THe process begines in Iawa and ends in the Convention when the deligates vote. I agree Hillary has made some mistakes that may cost her the nomination, but most of you who do not see how the media is “shaping” public oppinion in Obama’s favor do not realize your being manipulated. I do not say that for Hillary or against obama, just against “YOU” and the media!!!

Posted by: nh Pragmatist | May 26, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Well Jordon, I guess that we will just have to agree to disagree. At least you have been straight with me.
You know, I often hear from people that don’t support Barack that they are “scared” of what he will do to America if elected. And I honestly think that it is because he is unfamiliar. Kind of like the assumption that if we ever detect life from other planets…..they are going to ATTACK and KILL us all. Does anyone ever think that something unfamiliar is EXACTLY what this country needs? In my opinion American politics has NEVER been about honesty and the “common” citizen. Alot of us Obama supporters truly want someone different.
Anyway Jordon…..have a good Memorial Day. I’ve got an appointment with a grill.
My wife is giving me that “get your a$$ in gear” look. LOL

Posted by: say what | May 26, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Don’t forget, until very recently, Bill Clinton was the defacto leader of the Dems. That’s now Obama’s job, and Slick Willy isn’t dealing well with this power shift. He’s much less concerned with his wife’s campaign than he is with his own stature in the party.

Posted by: Ethel Farslowe | May 26, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Why would anyone want a president that changes with the wind. She can’t decide whether it’s experience or change, the super delegates, the popular vote or the delegates, don’t count Michigan and Florida or count them, it’s the media or Obama’s campaign, it’s sexism or racism, working white Americans or rural voters,(she can kiss the black vote goodbye), it’s 3AM or deprivation of sleep. Win the nomination or steal it, sniper fire or mispeaking, handle all the garbage that can be thrown her way or whine about it. It’s over February 5th or take it all the way to the convention. Stand the heat or get out of the kitchen as she stated. My goodness! Senator Clinton, GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.

Posted by: Lois | May 26, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

say what:
your right but still we want the same thing a better america!!
You have a Great Memorial Day!!
its been great chatting with you!!!

Posted by: jordon | May 26, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

So after Hillary has be whining that she is being discrimated against by sexists and misogynists, her hubby Bill has to come to her rescue.
Not my idea of a feminist. Feminists don’t lean on hubby to win.

Posted by: MarciaC | May 26, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Bill’s ability to keep the money pouring in is beginning to fade.
Hillary’s political celebrity can be cashed in no matter what happens. The longer the campaign, the stronger the brand.
It’s valuable to view the Clinton’s through the prism of self-interest and complete lack of ethical concerns.

Posted by: gorgon '08 | May 26, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

It’s true; the disrespect has created a huge division that will not be repaired. When one considers that Obama might run against McCain, a war hero and we all see the same Obama brass knuckling attempts, it will only serve to open the wounds that he has caused to the party and Clinton supporters mostly moderates will never be able to forget the insulting, vicious radicalism, let alone vote for him. Hillary wins in national polls and the party is completely split. It would be suicide for the party to make him the nominee.

Posted by: irma | May 26, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

The will of the voter means nothing to Obama supporters Hill. won Mass,won W.V. by 41% won N.M yet Kennedy,Kerry,Byrd,Rockafeller and Richardson endorsed Obama(just to name a few)The Gov of Okla. hen asked how he could go against his sstates voters who voted for Hill 55-31 for Hill. He said”as a Super he had the right to jvote the way he felt best”

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

“Disrespect” Real funny words coming from a man who had an affair with a Whitehouse Intern, in the Oval Office, and then lied about it on National TV while wagging his finger in the face of the American PUBLIC, she ought to be REAL proud that he is defending her honor….. hehehehehehehh …… Billy should just keep his mouth shut…..

Posted by: Vet1973 | May 26, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

For anyone who is disgusted about the way Hillary was treated during this campaign, we also need to be aware of the superdelegates in office who endorsed Obama and campaign against them as well in order they get voted out.

Posted by: beverett | May 26, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

LADIES & GENTLEMEN,
THE CLINTONS ARE OVER ! HASBEENS !WE NEED TO UNITE AND STAY FOCUS OR WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 4 HELL YEARS OF WAR, THOUSANDS MORE OF OUR CHILDREN IN BODY BAGS ! GAS PRICE WILL HIT $6.00, BREAD WILL BE $4.00. THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO FOCUS AT. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL! WE WILL ALL STAND TOGETHER, REGARDLESS BECAUSE IT IS OUR FUTURE, OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE AND OUR GRAND CHILDREN’S FUTURE. EVERY ONE SHOULD COOL DOWN AND TAKE A FEW DEEP BRETHS BEFORE RANTING – SOME THINGS WE CAN CHANGE AND SOME THINGS WE JUST CANNOT – LET US CHANGE WHA WE ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW! Sincerely, Lake Hart a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 26, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Poor, poor Hillary. Maybe they will be nice to her when she returns to the Senate. Those mean old boys just were not nice to her on the campaign trail, and they did not show respect for her

Posted by: jack | May 26, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

So it’s disrepectful to Hillary to ask her why she’s bringing up Bobbie Kennedys assassination during a time when Ted Kennedy has been diagnosed with a brain tumor and Obama has to have extra security due to death threats????? And this hateful, insensitive, power-hungry, say-anything-to-win person is who the Hillary fans want??? If any man had said half the things that Hillary has said, he’d have been out long ago. It’s just because a woman that she’s still in the race. C’mon people, go to the Wizard of Oz and get a brain!

Posted by: Justsomeguy | May 26, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Most of us Clinton supporters agreee with President Clinton about how Hilairy has been treated, we do not dislike Obama but do not like the Meda jamming him down our throats. The resentment comes from being called names , like ignorant uneducated rascist, that may drive a wedge and keep us from voting for him.

Posted by: Penny | May 26, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

HOPE WITHOUT COURAGE = DISS MISSING VOTES IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN.
HOPE WITH COURAGE = COUNTING ALL THE VOTES.
MANY HAVE STOOD FOR THE RIGHTS AND WAY OF LIFE OF OUR DEMOCRACY. MANY HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF THOSE TENETS, WHICH UNDERSCORE OUR WAY OF LIFE.
WHO IS IT THAT IS WILLING TO GIVE THOSE UP? WHO IS IT THAT PUT OUR CIVIL LIBERITES AT RISK? GEORGE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
WHO IS IT THAT IS WILLING TO CONTINUE IN HIS STEAD? BARACK OBAMA AND THE DNC.
IT MATTERS, NOT THE ‘PARTY’ – THEY ARE THE SAME OLD BREED. YOU ARE NOT VOTING FOR CHANGE WHEN YOU CAST YOUR LOT WITH OBAMA, YOU ARE JUST REFLECTING THE SAME OLD – SAME OLD…SELL OUTS.
HRC WON THE PRIMARY IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. BUT, RATHER THAN LET THOSE VOTES COUNT – YOU WOULD SELL THEM/US OUT, TO ELECT A NOMINEE THAT HAS NO REGARD FOR AMERICAN RIGHTS.
B.O. SMILES AND TELLS THE CUBANS AND HAITIANS THAT HE HAS THEIR BACK AND WILL BE BRINGING DEMOCRACY TO THEM. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE, BY STEALING IT FROM US CITIZENS?
HE MAKES POOO POO ABOUT THE DNC “RULES” AS HIS EXCUSE…
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? WHAT RULES ARE FOR HIM AND WHAT ARE FOR OTHERS.
DOUBLE STANDARD:
HE IS A SELF PRO-CLAIMED RECOVERING COCAINE ADDICT. HE HAS ADMITTED TO USING ILLEGAL DRUGS, THAT CARRY A FELONY CONCSEQUENCE, HAD HE MADE AN HONEST ADMISSION (BACK WHEN STATUES WERE STILL IN PLACE). BUT, HE HAS NOT DONE ONE DAY IN JAIL OR PAID ONE DIME IN LEGAL DUES OR FINES. INSTEAD, HE USES THIS “EXPERIENCE” TO TALK HIMSELF UP. WHAT ABOUT ALL HIS ‘BROTHERS AND SISTERS’ WHO ARE SITTING IN JAILS AROUND THIS COUNTRY, WHO DID NOT AND DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR GET OUT OF “JAIL FREE” CARDS? I GUESS THEY ARE NOT AMONG THE “BLESSED ONES”. AND, HE ‘S THE ‘EXCEPTION TO THE RULE’ -
AGAIN.
HE HAD A CHANCE FOR A REVOTE IN MI AND TURNED HIS BACK ON US, BOTH TIMES. HE IS NOT LEVELING WITH PEOPLE AND THE MEDIA IS SUPPORTING IT.
HE DEMEANS FOLKS OF RELIGION AND FOR CARRYING GUNS, SAYING THEY ARE FALSE COMFORTS FOR THE HARDSHIPS THEY EXPERIENCE (PARAPHRASE). INSTEAD, I SUPPOSE, HE WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE UP SMOKING AND USING COCAINE, WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH.
REALLY -WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? I AM NOT CONVINCED HE KNOWS THAT ANSWER… NOT IN HIS GUT, ANYWAY. ELSE, HE WOULD NOT HAVE SO MANY FLIP -FLOPS.
IN ANY CASE, IT WOULD BE MORE INTERESTING, IF HE HAD OR WOULD DO (EVEN)ONE THING THAT WOULD DEMONSTRATE AN EXERCISE IN REAL COURAGE:
COUNT OUR VOTES! SAY “NO” MORE TO
COP-OUTS. FREE OUR VOTES! HOLDING OUR VOTES HOSTAGE IS PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF FORCES LARGER THAN THIS PRIMARY CONTEST.
COURAGE PLUS HOPE = CHANGE THAT COUNTS!

Posted by: made inMichigan | May 26, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

I will freely admit that I’m an Obama supporter. That being said, there is no harm in standing by for a couple of weeks as this process finds its natural conclusion. When any sports team is behind with only minutes to go…they don’t walk off the field and quit. They play until the last tick of the clock. Pretending that she has been “forced out” won’t work if she stays ’till the end. The result will be the same. Every contest has a winner and a loser and while the end is in sight and most folks can see easily forecast the result…just be polite and let the process bring the natural conslusion. No harm!

Posted by: AlaskaFlyGuy | May 26, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

The media isn’t cramming anyone down your throat. The media is just out to sell newspapers and get viewers and hits on their websites. Obama is who the majority of the population wants to see. Obama sells newspapers. Obama gets website hits. Obama has gotten record amounts of donations and donors. Obama has been getting record crowds, like the 74,000 in Oregon. These are the things that make news, unless you bring up a Kennedy assassination a week after Teddy Kennedy is diagnosed with a brain tumor. Then you get negative publicity!

Posted by: justsomeguy | May 26, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

I’m a lifelong Democrat, in California, and he are four facts from where I sit.
First – Hillary has run a terrible campaign, and Bill’s performance has not helped her.
Second – She has been verbally abused, mostly by the Republicans, but also by Democratic Obama supporters in a way that would absolutely not be tolerated if the attacks had been on Obama.
Third – This is a centrist country, and Obama is a liberal on his voting record. McCain is closer to the center than Obama. That plus his “negotiation without preconditions” remark will make it hard for him in November.
Fourth – Hillary has won something like 15 million primary votes and deserves to be asked to be VP. Obama will likely not do that since it will greatly upset his supporters, and they believe that Hillary’s supporters will vote Democratic in the fall. But some, possibly me, won’t forgive the arrogance of his campaign (not him) and have enough reservations that they will vote Republican.

Posted by: PeterT | May 26, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

he got the never to say that hilary was disrespected. ha. no could disrespect his wife more than he has. he got busted cheating on her. now that’s disrespect.

Posted by: msmama33 | May 26, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Thank you PeterT for posting the closest thing to an accurate count of the Hillary Clinton vote that I have seen yet. You must have taken out the 7% of the Operation Chaos votes — votes that will not materialize in the general.
Obama ’08!

Posted by: Healthy Woman | May 26, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

GO HILLARY TELL BILL TO STAND BEHIND NOT IN FRONT OF YOU.YOUR A STRONG WOMAN
YOU STOOD BESIDE HIM BUT HE NEED’S TO STAND BEHIND YOU.YOU CAN DO THIS DON’T GIVE IN NO MATTER WHAT.WE THE PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR YOU.

Posted by: lil_granny | May 26, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

I’m a Hill supporter from Fla. Obama fought not to have my vote count. I can vvote for Mccain because the Dems will have a huge majority in congress and Mccain will have little power.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

All of you hard-core Hillary supporters need to realize that you’ve lost. The game is almost over and you’re too far behind to come back. Obama has the ball and he’s running out the clock.

Posted by: anon | May 26, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

I submitted an application to change affiliation from Democratic to Independent and I am advising Women, Hispanics, and elderly to do so immediately. See how the super-delegates start to move toward Hillary when they realize that they holding “COLD #######” in their hand.

Posted by: Adnaloy | May 26, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

i think it will be interesting…
i remember hearing donna brazil and other undercover democratic supporters of obama’s – kicking up a storm when they thought HRC might win by superdelegates votes and not by popular vote (- the will of the people). big issue: the people should be counted, not the superdelegates. a candidate should not win by margins – designed by super delegates votes.
i just can’t wait to see how they spin it … or, will she and the others hold true to their word? – the votes/voters, not the super delegates, are the ones, who should count…as, it may well be that hillary wins the popular vote.
how exciting …for some
and, troubling for others.

Posted by: bystander | May 26, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Hillary claims to have more popular votes but she doesn’t count all the caucus states that Obama won!!!! You can’t count caucus votes with any degree of accuracy so the whole popular vote argument should be thrown out the window.

Posted by: justsomeguy | May 26, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Just because Hillary tells you she won the popular vote doesn’t make it so.

Posted by: justsomeguy | May 26, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Oh no! It’s a waste left-wing conspiracy!

Posted by: anonymoususerguy | May 26, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

*vast

Posted by: anonymoususerguy | May 26, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Still all for HRC all the way. If she is not on the ticket for prez, I will write her name in.
She is the most qualified, most articulate, best able to think on her feet, the only one able to clean the Bush dung out of 1600 Pennsylvania.

Posted by: tonva | May 26, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

My coach in High School used to tell us that a true measure of our character was how we handled losing.
Winston Churchill said that you can measure a man’s character by the choices he makes under pressure.
So to listen to the Clinton whine and complain about all the reasons they are losing is a reflection (and not a surprising one) of their character.
And this is not the type of character we need leading our country.

Posted by: Ivan | May 26, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

The fact is, people don’t like Queen Hillary.
While Bill and Hillary are talking about sexism, I have a few questions.
Once Hillary becomes president, is she going to stop sexual discrimination in the Military Draft?
I ask you, why must my son register for the draft when your daughter does not have to? This is sexual discrimination to its fullest. Why must men be required by law to go and fight for their country when women are allowed to sit at home and watch reality shows on TV. Women have the same civil rights as men but women are not required to fight for them. Will Hillary stop this sexual discrimination in our federal government?
How about sexual discrimination in our courts? Why is it presumed that a female will be a better parent than a male? Why do men have to prove that a mother is unfit as a parent in order to obtain custody of his child? Is Hillary going to change this when she is elected president?
Why are men given more servere sentences than a woman when they both commit the same type of crime? Is Hillary going to change this when she is elected president?
Will Hillary stand up for equal rights for men as well as for women?
I don’t think so.

Posted by: BuckUSA | May 26, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Bill is right to point out that the media, in particular, have skewed the polls. His point, I believe, is that only those polls that favour Obama are played up by the media and those that favour Hillary Clinton are not. He is cricticising the polls for trying to direct the voting of those primaries yet to be held. He also makes a very good point about Michigan and Florida. They will be alienated from the Dem’s in the election if they do not get a chance to influence the choice of nominee.

Posted by: gordon jackson | May 26, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Bob the Govs. fo Fla. and Mich. wanted a revote and the Gov of N.J. said he would get the funding.Obama’s people nixed it. Now they are trying to kiss up to us.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

First of all, its is totally ridiculous to even suggest that one opponent has it out for another, this is the first time in history anything like this has ever happened to my knowledge. It is apparent that this is not politics as usual. And I’ve got some news for the media, the race isn’t over yet. Let the people vote for God’s sake!
And now you want to blame this “Clinton assignation plot,” all on Obama supporters and not Obama. Who leads Obama’s campaign, his supporters or him? This is just another example of Obama not having any leadership abilities. It took him twenty years to stand up to Reverend Wright. But, let’s face the truth, he sits in the background calling all of the shots, and lets other people take the blame. His dirty style politics has cost him this race.

Posted by: John | May 26, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Bill Clinton is absolutely right. There has been a bias against Hillary since Iowa. The media tried to annoint BO right after Iowa and New Hampshire said no. So has Ca., NY, Texas, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, arkansas, Kentucky and WV to name a few!!!! All the states that the Democrates need to win the General. democrates also need the working class, Catholics, seniors, the Jewish and most of all the biggest voting block of all WOMEN. These are not BO supporters and the reason is because he lacks experience, substance and ELECTABILITY. We do not want another Republican like Bush in the White House and McCain is NOT BUSH! McCain is his own man and has experience, substance and with Hillary Supporters ELECTABILITY.

Posted by: politicgirl | May 26, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

PEOPLE, it is not OBAMA’S fault for Florida and Michigan.He did not oust them, rthe DNC did, so why are you trying to blame him.Evidently Florida and Michigan didn’t care about their voters, otherwise, they would’ve followed the rules..This has nothing to do with OBAMA..

Posted by: Edna | May 26, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

ivan fyi – the votes have not all been counted yet. who is to say, who is losing with grace or not. you see how you are and what i mean? pushy pushy pushy.
just settle down and let everyone have their chance…
you can do that, right?

Posted by: equality first | May 26, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

alessandro Obama cheated and didn’t play by the rules. He ran tv ads here in Fla for weeks on MSNBC & CNN.Does anyone think it was a coincidence they stopped on the day of the primary.Other ran national ads and made sure they cidn’t play here.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Wow, I am impressed. Scanning the posts here, it seems people are getting tired of the Clintons.
I don’t support any candidate just yet, but have watched the fascinating transformation of the Clinton campaign! It is refreshing to see people calling it like it is…that the Clintons are trying everything possible to remain relevant and in the race.
For me, the tipping point was this weekends news item about a poll suggesting that more people would vote for an African American over a woman. Hillary called this sexism and said she was fighting for women everywhere bla bla bla. It was a POLL darling…people were asked questions…they answered the questions…simple. For Hillary, they answered incorrectly and therefore its sexism against her!!
Just like Hillary will seek to re-educate the DNC this week about how to count delegates and how to interpret the popular vote…she will press them to see her in the special light she casts for herself. She is a fascinating woman, with a fascinating husband, and is suffering from a simple, self-inflicted wound….the absulute underestimation of her opponent. That simple error has forced her own hand all through the race, and continues to do so.
Its over darling.

Posted by: twotraps | May 26, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Lyn said: “Hillary should stay in until the end of the race, just like all candidates have always done.”
Lyn, you did not notice that 6 men already dropped out of this race, did you? :-)

Posted by: Man | May 26, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Hey, don’t try and tell us Hillary supporters that we shouldn’t vote for McCain. After all, Obama sings the praises of Republicans & Repub presidents and trashes WJC, the only two-term Dem President we’ve had in eons. Obama has run a very divisive campaign and he will reap what he sowed. If anyone should drop out now, it’s Obama.

Posted by: beverett | May 26, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

this will be remembered as “people vs the media” democratic election. when media tried to suppress teh vote! when media tried to deny over 17million people their democratic rights. when media tried to bully their chosen one into the democratic process!
LET PEOPLE VOTE!
LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE!
WE THE PEOPLE ELECT OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS – DEMAND THE MEDIA RESPECT OUR DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS!!

Posted by: Average Joe | May 26, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

We have never had a female president.(NEWS)
I hope no one has given serious thought of it being a slam dunk.
Such a bastion of male dominance is going to do all it can whether consciously or unconsciously to make a female wish she had never raised her bowed head.
I am a female and I would support a female table if she had the nerve to stand up to status quo.
Hillary has more grit and tenacity, more brains than anyone running. I hope she wins but if she does not, I will support Obama completely.

Posted by: gracie2beano2 | May 26, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

edna -
obama had his name on the ballot in Michigan just like hillary and edwards – he took it off. not because of the “rules” he took it off because he knew he could not win the state. polling.
he left his name on in florida.
the rules did not say anyone had to take their name off and the dnc did not request this. the rule was- no campaigning in either state and to the best of my knowledge, neither candidate actively campaigned.
also, Mi and Fla tried to correct situation – offering to have a revote. he refused, though Hillary was willing to put up half the money. also, in august, we have another state wide vote pending, which could include the two candidates, he has refused yet another opportunity to include the voters in Mi again.
so, yes,…it is obama’s fault – responsibilty. those are the facts.
do not tell me what the truth is – it is my vote that is being repressed by this man and the dnc.
say no more to “cop outs” -
count the votes!!!
if you are right and, if obama is not at fault , let him stand up in front of America and tell the dnc that he wants ALL the votes that were cast in both of these states included.
like that is going to happen…
do you think he will put his money where his mouth is? or, what is his excuse?

Posted by: made inMichigan | May 26, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Why do the Clintons keep forgetting that Obama’s name was not on the Michigan ballot!! Hillary won Florida but a lot of people, like me, voted for her because they did know much about Obama. If the vote in Florida was today I think it would be a lot different.
The young people are for Obama- they are the ones that will have to pay for Bush’s war for the nest 20-30 years. Let them have the President they so desperately want!!

Posted by: al H | May 26, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Barry Obama can only win if SOME of the votes are counted. His health care plan covers SOME of the people. We need a president for ALL.

Posted by: Susan | May 26, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

HEY BILL, MUST BE THAT “VAST RIGHT-WING” CONSPIRACY AT IS AGAIN. YA THINK?

Posted by: rhbate | May 26, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The Clintons and their supporters are just mad at what they TOOK FOR GRANTED…..this nomination.
Barack played by the rules, rules that the Clintons had a large part in making, and beat them at their own game. And her supporters can’t accept it….PERIOD !!
I would be hot to, if someone beat me at my own game.
You all can blame sexism, media bias or any other lame excuse. Obama ran a BETTER campaign. Anybody that knows anything about politics knows this.
ALL I heard for years was: “the Clinton machine; the Clinton machine”……well all machines get old, rusty and REPLACED!!
If she manages to pull it out…fine, I’m with her. But we all know this is over, so I will back Barack. McCain is not an option.

Posted by: Order | May 26, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

The Clintons are now officially a joke. Last time around they wanted the caucuses to count; this time they don’t want the caucuses to count. Last time they just loved MoveOn; this time they hate it. Last time they were happy to have 91% of the black vote; this time it’s all about, “hard-working Americans- white Americans.” One thing can be said about these two conniving, ego-driven, low-class clowns, :They sure know how to change with the times.

Posted by: rhbate | May 26, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

You are right Adnaloy! The movement of moderate dems chipping away from the party base is increasing since the last few months. Millions of women disgusted by news/medias treating Hillary un-justly (as Bill is talking about)have already created their own movement and is in full force now. Amazing thing is with all this hatred thrown at Hillary(as exhibited by idiot Olbermann recently), she is still rising on the polls and getting ready for another big victory in Puerto Rico. Go Hillary!! Millions of us still will vote for you if you decide to run as an Independent.

Posted by: Roger | May 26, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

What is more interesting than Clinton’s comments will be the reaction to them. Clinton’s words would mean nothing if Obama had this nomination sewn up. The untold secret (untold mostly by the media), however, is that this race is FAR from over. Obama knows there is no way he can claim the nomination and look past the voters in Michigan and Florida. And super delegates know that voters will punish them if they do not honor their will. It’s going to get more interesting — and difficult for Obama — before this thing is over. Count on it.

Posted by: Dennis | May 26, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

alh How many people in states that voted already would vote for Obama had they know about Rev Wright and bitter people.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

order – question:
where did you hear that the Clinton’s were a “political machine?”
perahps, your comments could be an illustration of “case in point” – the media: represented a situation in their ususal distorted fashion -
good heavens – could it be?
and, “daddyblue” where did you get your facts from? exactly what percentage of limbaugh voters have cast their ballots, overall, in favor of hillary?
if you don’t have facts to substantiate your claims – what do you have? me thinks, media spinning in your heads…
support your claims with facts.

Posted by: made inMichigan | May 26, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

…if You can’t stand the heat get …
out of the kitchen!

Posted by: Latino in Anchorage | May 26, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

*SIGH* Nobody denied anybody the right to vote. Everybody’s vote will be counted. This is a delegate race, so as long as the delegates from MI and FL are seated in some fashion (50/50), what is the problem? I’ll tell you the problem…
Florida and Michigan started out by attempting to make their votes count MORE THAN EVERY OTHER STATE’S.
FL and MI disrespected the rest of the states with their pompousness and quest for power. Think of the rude people pushing their way to the front of the line while the civilized people waited our turn. They were warned in advance that they would be penalized if they didn’t follow the rules. If FL and MI are allowed to stand as counted without any penalty, their power-play succeeds.
FL voters ought to give up the “balance of power” strategy they’ve adopted for in their state so that the Republicans don’t get to decide when their primaries take place. However, their Democratic leadership was on board with the power play move to vote out of turn.
MI’s delegates will also be seated, but with penalty. The committee that gets to decide about how MI delegates will be seated is stacked to favor Hillary — they are mostly her supporters and have been from the very start.
Hillary (and her supporters) rigged this trump card for herself from the start and is only calling for the change because Hillary needs to face. She needs to win “something” since she can’t win the nomination — sort of like a “booby prize” win to soothe her ego.
I would like to see her deal with her bruised ego without using MI and FL as pawns and dividing the Democratic party in the process. She lost. FL and MI lost full delegate standing BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THEIR STATE TO VOTE FOR COMPETENT LEADERSHIP on the local level.
WHY SHOULD THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ALLOW PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PUT COMPETENT LEADERSHIP IN PLACE ON THEIR OWN LOCAL LEVEL DECIDE WHO THE HELL THE WHOLE COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE FOR PRESIDENT?
Obama ’08!

Posted by: HOPEFUL | May 26, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Hillary will be one of the greatest presidents this nation has ever known. She has defied corrupt authority and big corporate interests her whole life, and has valiantly and successfully championed the cause of the underdog, minorities, the poor, the middle class, women and children. And not only in the U.S., but around the world.
As President Hillary will do the following:
1) Fix the economy
2) Freeze home foreclosures and provide direct aid to homeowners
3) End the huge tax cuts to the wealthy
4) End the 55 billion dollar tax loop hole to the oil companines
5) End the War in Iraq
6) Shift focus to green energy resources and green jobs, and will fund it with the money we get back from the Oil companies
7) Make college affordable again, increasing grant and loan money and bringing interest rates back down to around 2% on loans.
8) Increase teacher pay, school funding, and end No Child Left Behind
9) Pass the equal pay law. Currently woment still make between .54 – .76 to a man’s dollar – which has a huge negative impact on women and children.
10) UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE – really.
11) Increase veterans benefits and update the GI bill to make sure our vets are really taken care of.
12) Restore our reputation and leadership around the world, by using the skills of many brilliant and powerful U.S. leaders in diplomacy.
Hillary has the knowledge, expeierience, power and record that shows she not only can but WILL do these things.
Hillary is our best hope. Go Hillary! We love you!

Posted by: Torch | May 26, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

hopeful Don’t make Obama greater than he is. The govs. of Fla & Mich pushed for a revote.(Fla Gov. is a Repb.)The Gov of N.J. said he would raise the money and the Obama people nixed it.How can he come down here and face us.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Hopeful, you shouted:
“WHY SHOULD THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ALLOW PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PUT COMPETENT LEADERSHIP IN PLACE ON THEIR OWN LOCAL LEVEL DECIDE WHO THE HELL THE WHOLE COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE FOR PRESIDENT?”
You’re talking about Obama, right? Because look at the disaster his district in Illinois is. Look at how often he simply didn’t show up to vote when he could have helped. Do you know he claimed to hit the wrong voting button SIX TIMES in Illinois, in every case ensuring the outcome favored the big special interests and screwing the people. In one case his “acciedntal” vote stripped millions of dollars from a child welfare project in Illinois. And he sure wasn’t thinking about the poor when he bought that Mansion he couldn’t afford with a little financial help from the SLUMLORD Rezko – who, by the way, runs slums in what was Obama’s district. Or maybe you’re referring to the fact that he never did a single thing to stop the Iraq war from the moment he started running for Senate to the moment he decided to run for president. But he DID vote for Cheney’s corrupt 2005 energy bill which stripped away environmental protections and padded the pockets of the Oil Companines with billions in our tax money. Why? Because the Oil Companies and Exelon (Nuclear) are huge financial backers of Obama. When it comes right down to it, Obama bends over for the big corp interests just like Bush does.
That’s one reason why there is such an umprecedented urgency, and so violently pursued, to get Hillary out of the race.
Hillary is the threat to the big money interests who are draining and destroying America. Obama is no threat. And McCain will just stick with the program too.
Your hope is admirable, but it is naive and ignores the hard realities of the situaion.
Hillary in ’08!

Posted by: Torch | May 26, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

made inMichigan,
NO IT COULDN’T BE !!
I have heard the term “Clinton Machine” not only in the media but also from people that work for her campaign IN MY CITY !!
Just like at an Obama rally, some of his people used the term “Obama-Nation”
What’s the big deal, they’re just terms. The bottom line is that the Clintons and their supporters expected to just waltz into the nomination and now they are angry and hurt…PERIOD !!!

Posted by: Order | May 26, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Why is it that I never heard Hillary protesting this Michigan and Florida deal when it first happen. I didn’t hear a peep from her until she began losing.

Posted by: T | May 26, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Torch, I agree that Hillary would have made a fantastic president. She should be leading by a wide margin if it were not for the liberal party bosses and the media. Obama is winning by hype and I sincerely hope he does not win the GE. There is nothing, absolutely nothing in his resume to let us know that he will lead our nation to prosperity. With people like Putin, Chavez and Ahmedinejad and along with Obama’s lack of vision and inability to think on his feet, this only means were he to win, we as a nation will be in a dire state. There is so much challenge. I would rather see status quo than get into a far worse situation. I will be one of the many who would rather have a republican than a liberal Obama. It almost scares me to think that life under Bush-Chaney may seem prosperous than life under Obama! This for me is not about race but about our economy and our safety. What a nightmarish situation.

Posted by: Voter | May 26, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Order………Well Obama doesn’t have to waltz into the nomination, because the DNC, Dems and the Media are basically handling it over to him as if he’s recieving a degree. I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. This guy is going to recieve the nomination because everyone reporting is scared to mention race, but they don’t have a problem with calling Hillary racist…
BTW…I’m a an African-American

Posted by: Eric | May 26, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

T, I believe you are wrong. Do your research. It is my understanding that everyone believed initially their delegates/ votes would count no matter what.

Posted by: KR | May 26, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Torch,
“Hillary is the threat to the big money interests who are draining and destroying America.”
Come on now. You know better than that. Don’t you? Why is her healthcare plan MANDATORY (spinned as universal)? Hillary is the big money candidate. Hillary is the republican candidate of choice for a reason.
Obama is the candidate for the people, chosen by the people (most of us, anyway).
Obama ’08!

Posted by: Hopeful | May 26, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

to “T”:
Obama said he would not and did not campaign or fundraise in Florida. Yet he did both IN PERSON and also advertised. I’ll try to post the url for you tube here (or at least the last part) which shows Obama campaigning in Tampa, Florida.
I point this out because there has been a lot of dishonesty and misrepresentation from the Obama camp. Also there were TWO other states that upped the dates of their primaries and they were not penalized. There’s something quite corrupt here, and this is NOT the first time. The PEOPLE are sick of it. And even if you are the most die-hard Obama supporter, you should be protesting it too. This strikes deep at the heart of the very thing which holds our democracy together – the right to vote, and the right to have our votes counted. If we let political bosses continually tamper with this process, and they see they can get away with it, you can be sure dictatorship is right aroung the corner, no matter how they cloak it.
People, please wake up, this is much bigger than eitther Hillary or Barack. It’s about US. It’s about freedom. And even in the clip url above, Obama speaks soaringly of politics trumping principle – but now when his words are put to the test, his principles are no where to be found, and he too is working to suppress the vote.
Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: Torch | May 26, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

The other states got DNC approval to move up their primaries.

Posted by: Hopeful | May 26, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

ok – i will conclude my thoughts for today -
it is clear to me, many commenters do not support their theories, grievances, or commnents with factual material. just more anger and divisive language.
you appear to be the puppets and the media is the puppet master, as most of teh crap that is spewed there is repeated here. and, they are not challenged to substantiate their punditry or give credentials for their expertise.
it is simply a shame. the likes of these bottom feeders are influencing without regard – our election process.
unlike hillary, i do not know enough about obama to credit him with anything except, eloquence. that is all i can say – he delivers a good speech.
however; i have also seen him, as duplicitous. he wanted it to be enough: speaking without having a record to found his words on – until, he was caught plageurizing.
then, he wanted it be good enough that he had the best judgment, until rev. wright surfaced and he happens to be the one person, obama thought highly enough to dedicate his book in honor of – after a a seventeen year relationship
then, when that was not workable for him – he wanted to be the racial “healer” and, reconcile the past with the present. to have us understand the bitterness of the racial divide of old with the hope that he represents. but, oops.. the rev called him out on this too. so he severed himself from the rev and turned his attention to -
trade vs. free trade – he sides with the idea that he will renegotiate the agreements, but then, his surrogate rushes to canada to assure them that he is just making political speeches. its’ all good.
foreign affairs…
he offers to give the presidential nod to terrorist groups and heads of state, but not to negotiate w/ the rev forever more…
he, personally, does not think anyone should hold him accountable for his past mistakes, but —
wants to follow the rules as far as MI and Fla. are concerned. come on!!!
he promises to provide democracy for cuba, while denying the votes in Mi and Fla.
he is a strategist: he thinks everyone will forget and just want to vote democratic in the fall. he thinks he can say and do anything and be held harmless for it.
he wants to persecute bill clinton and pedestalize his wife.
are you really buying this? it’s a game.
you need to think for yourselves. and, be willing to see /hear the facts.
obama is inconsistent. he says one thing and does a 180. how can he be trusted? blind faith? whose? as, according to him, the religious are simple “bitter”. these are his words and actions.
it is what is available to make an informed decision.
tell me something else he has said and done that make him a candidate worthy of my vote, of representing our country?
give me an illustration of anything….anything. if you cannot – you better start thinking.
tell me something he has done to prove himself. c’mon – any employer would ask for credentials, background, experience… we are his employers. you don’t have to feel guilty a bout asking for the information that will allow for the best information to make the decision.
if he is not qualified, why vote for him? why? how have you become convinced of his legitimacy. how is his platform different from Hillary’s? so, what is the reason -
could it be -
the media ? maybe they actually have portrayed false sense of him as their chosen golden boy? and, all they need to do – is get rid of hillary to make themselves, a winner.
this has become a contest of personalities and fashion. media driven: it has been a slash and burn witch hunt.
be that as it may, the main thing is-
this appraoch is costing us our rights. and, for what – to nominate someone who is not experienced or qualified or demonstrated one ounce of the conviction, he espouses.
- what a waste.
obama’s biggest mistake was counting out the voters in Michigan and Florida (x3). it speaks volumes about him.

Posted by: made inMichigan | May 26, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Hopeful,
Hillary’s heatlhcare plan is MANDATORY because if it is not, the econmics will play out in at least two ways:
1) The insurance companies will figure out loop holes and ways not to insure people – just as they do now.
2) If it isn’t mandatory large portions of the Country will remain uninsured and the tax burden for their healthcare – which will usually become “mandatory” when their health issues have reached a crisis point – will fall to the rest of us and will affect insurance costs for all.
The MANDATORY aspect is a way to keep corrupt influences from manipulating the system. The way it is outlined, people will only pay a SMALL percentage of their incomes, and there will be aid for those who can’t.
Further, her plan includes saving billions by switching to computerized records. And even though it seems unrelated, Hillary will shift focus to Green Economy and environmental protections, which in and of itself will make for healthier enviroments. One interesting aspect of Hillary’s plan is to work to improve funding for and care of people with Mental Health problems, and to work to end the stigma against this kind of illness.
Hopeful, I’ve studied this, and you can just as easily. I recommend you go to Hillary’s website and read about the plan details. Further, if you have 10 minutes, why not go read Hillary’s biograhpy on wikipedia? Or how about checking out her voting record and record of legislative accomplishments thoroughly. I have for both candidates.
What you’ll find is that Hillary passes more legislation than Obama per year at a ratio of something like 3 to 1, she sponsors more bills by far, and her laws have for more substance and far greater impact.
Hillary in ’08!

Posted by: Torch | May 26, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

The DNC used tough love on Michigan and Florida. To appease Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire for moving up their dates. Obama never put his name on the ballot in Michigan once again to appease Iowa, Nevada , and New Hampshire. Like he would appease talking to leaders of countries with terrorist states. He needs Michigan and Florida to beat McCain, but will except them to the convention only after he gets the nomination, once again using the dirty politics he learned in Chicago. If you can’t beat them wipe them out by any means. Obviously most American have not bother to see all the facts surrounding Mr. Obama’s political career in Chicago/Illinois. The donations for state funded benefits.

Posted by: jp,michigan | May 26, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

torch, What will happen to self-employed people who can’t afford or don’t choose to pay insurance premiums under Hillary’s plan? They will be prosecuted and fined! That will not be pleasant or inexpensive, I assure you.

Posted by: louielouie | May 26, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

I am sick of the media and the ignorant ultra liberals in the Demo party trying to force Barack Obama on us. He doesnt represent the middle classes and he looked awfully uncomfortable sipping on that budweiser light while trying to garner middle calls white and blue collar workers. We do not identify with him. He is all talk . Hes done nothing of worth other than give some great speeches but talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words and his actions combined with his associations with some shady characters, plus his racist wife and preacher show me that he is not to be trusted with the security of the United States. If he had been vetted properly months ago instead of being treated like the prom king by the media Hillary would have clinched the nomination by now. How sad that many Americans are bewitched by this Pied Piper

Posted by: JIMBO | May 26, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

If you ever watch CNN, NBC or MSNBC, read Huffington Post or Politico you will see that what Bill Clinton says is absolutely true. And it makes me damn mad. For the last 6 months in every interview she has to explain why she needs to stay in the race. It has been totally unfair and these media outlets aren’t doing Obama any favors because they have alienated people like me. I won’t vote for him.

Posted by: Judy | May 26, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

The Democrat process is flawed, alright! How else can you win red caucus states, wine and dine and pay for superdelegate endorsements before the convention, destroy the votes cast by two significant states, press the candidate with the most votes to get out of the race long before most of the states have held their primaries, and then say the people have spoken? What a joke! With the major networks building a case for Obama, while denigrating Hillary, and the DNC not rectifying their colossal mistake in punishing the voters of Michigan and Florida, one has to wonder what this Party is about. It makes the Republicans look so much more efficient and wise.
You cannot say that the majority of the voters who voted in the primaries have no other choice but Obama. We sure as heck do, and we are going to prove it.

Posted by: georgia | May 26, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

given his excuse for allowing the disenfranchisment of the primary results – based loosely on DNC rules… obama still had 2 more chances to accept a revote in Michigan and Florida — he found excuses to opt out of these, as well..
total opportunities for obama to
be a stand up American = x3!
total times he has copped out = x3 – facts are facts. 3 strikes rule.
quit making excuses for him, and the DNC – you are only undermining our rights, and allowng a precendent to be set that will affect the liberties of everyone.
wake up!!!
we are you!!!

Posted by: linda | May 26, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

I think it’s time for her to get out now – With him whining conspiracy and her invoking the tragedy of the Kennedy assasination – they’re reaching and just starting to make themselves look foolish more than anything.

Posted by: cortezpjr | May 26, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Torch,
Thank you for a thoughtful response, but I disagree.
You said:
“Hillary’s heatlhcare plan is MANDATORY because if it is not, the econmics will play out in at least two ways:
1) The insurance companies will figure out loop holes and ways not to insure people – just as they do now.
2) If it isn’t mandatory large portions of the Country will remain uninsured and the tax burden for their healthcare – which will usually become “mandatory” when their health issues have reached a crisis point – will fall to the rest of us and will affect insurance costs for all.”
I don’t buy that argument because I’ve seen how insurance works. Once it is mandatory, the insurance companies will profit without changing anything. The consumer of healthcare is not in a better position by forcing those that don’t need it to pay. Without the mandatory portion, the insurance companies would have to figure out how to attract more customers. Many of us found out after NOT having the luxury of affordable healthcare, that we had better care for ourselves best we can. The insurance companies should have NEVER allowed it to get to this point because we have now figured out that we don’t need it at the exhorbitant rates they impose. The market will correct itselft UNLESS IT IS MANDATORY THAT WE BUY IT.
By creating a mandatory system, people that cannot afford it (decisions about personal affordability should not be made by the government), will still not have healthcare and they will be forced to pay for what they do not have. If it were a mere few bucks, I’d say mandatory is not so bad. But we are talking major bucks from what Hillary has said. Who is Hillary Clinton to decide for me (or the next U.S. citizen) that I must have healthcare instead of, for example, a Lexus or a Benz. The Lexus or the Benz would probably cost less than what Hillary wants to take from my pay. Suppose I just want to save money to attend some university or take a vacation. Who is Hillary Clinton to decide how my household income should be spent? Yet, that is exactly what the MANDATORY healthcare system would do.
Green is good, good for creating new jobs. Obama proposes that, too.
Obama also proposed and passed plenty of legislation that protects consumers. Some of it prevents consumers from getting screwed over by the banking industry and credit card companies. That’s the kind of stuff that keeps people afloat in today’s economy. I’ll read Hillary’s (again), if you’ll read Obama’s.
Obama ’08!

Posted by: Hopeful | May 26, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Now the Clinton supporters are against the US Constitution and the FREE PRESS.
What next are they going to complain about.
If you want Hillary to be your president, then why don’t all you Clinton supporters move to Russia where there is no such thing as a free press. Then you can vote for Hillary without any hassel from the press and she can be president of Russia.
As for me, I’m planning on buying a ticket to Denver to protest against Hillary at the convention. Unlike the Clintons, I am for Free Speech and Freedom of the Press.
The Clintons have came along way since their hippie days when they were infavor of Free Speech and Freedom of the Press. Of course now they filp flop day by day depending what is in their favor.

Posted by: BuckUSA | May 26, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

You Hillary supporters STILL crying………….D@MN, what’s the baby gonna do ?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: sonny | May 26, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

COME JUNE 3, 2008, HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN WILL BE OVER! Hillary ran a poorly managed campaign and that is why she lost! She barely won Texas (even though Obama got more delegates) because of Rush Limbaugh’s operation chaos, the same in Indiana. She went negative with the “kitchen sink” strategey, which was negative lies straight out of Karl Rove’s playbook! She stooped to the cardinal sin of stating that she and McCain were qualified to be president while her democratic opponent, Obama, was not. She transformed the battle from the issues and created a racial wedge with her words and actions over “hard working white people!” She circulated images of Obama that fed into false rumors that he is muslim, even though he is christian. Hillary, who I began the race supporting and for her husband, who I voted for twice, has 100% let me down in a shocking way! She makes Karl Rove look like bambi! She and Bill should BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES for the way they have abused their supporters and the democratic party. The only proper response is that on June 4, all of the superdelegates should slam dunk her, McAuliffe, and her whole, lying, kitchen sink, waterboarding campaign and be done with this mess!

Posted by: nodevilsplease | May 26, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Hopeful, the differnce is that Hillary’s plan will provide legal protections against such game playing by the insurance companies. Do you remember when this all started? When the Insurance companies were given so much control there were many who warned that exactly what is happening now would happen. But they were shouted down. And now our healthcare system is in a deplorable state. There has to be a bottom line, unfortunately. There are, sadly, many many people and corporations who eagerly place profit above principle. In such cases where there is a reigning paradigm of greed, or even hatred, it is useful for the government to step in, legislate and enforce a ruling principle which acts to protect society as a whole agaisnt the hateful or predatory actions of the few.
If you read Hillary Clinton’s biography, and study her record, you will realize there are few people – especially people of her intelligence and education – who have studied this topic, and fought the corrupt powers profitting from it, more thoroughly than Hillary Clinton. Yes, she has lost some battles. But haven’t you? I have. I’ve learned from the mistakes made in idealism. It doesn’t make the idealism wrong, but if you have the courage to get up and keep fighting, you become a much sharper contender. Hillary is now equipped to pass this legislation, not only because of her expertise based on both study and experience, but also because the U.S. has now had a chance to see that what she was saying all along was right, and that we really do need Universal health care. The public won’t be so easily fooled by attack ads.
But the Insurance companies will attack. In fact, Obama used the same attacks they used in the 90′s to try to discredit Hillary’s plan. It’s never been about principle for them, but they have to convince us that it is – in other words they have to lie to us to keep robbing us. But that’s what theives do.
I’m signing out now. Good luck to our naition and Hillary in ’08!

Posted by: Torch | May 26, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Kitchen sink…Swiftboating….Waterboarding…. all judgment issues of a similiar “we can bend or stretch or push the rules to the limit” type of mentality. Hopefully, Obama won’t have to let everyone see the TELEPHONE POLES in Hillary and McCain’s eyes. Obama has the right judgment and temperament to be the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF… both Hillary and McCain actually frighten me! No one was surrounded by more years of experience than GW Bush (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Wolfowitz, Rice, Ashcroft, etc.); but, experience without judgment is useless. Which is why it is noteworthy that Obama had to judgment to be against this war from the beginning.

Posted by: nodevilsplease | May 26, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

i do not care if it cost the dnc 500 million dollars they need to redo all of the voting in a fair unbiased campaign,no superdelegates should have come forward to support either candidate until all americans had their chance to vote,that is called trying to sway the public’s opinion,any superdelegates that have already pleadged their support before all states have voted should be stripped of the title of superdelegate,superdelegates are not needed until all voting is done and no nominee has reached the 2026 needed delegates!!
its bad enough that our news stations have been so biased in their attempts to uphold certain candidates,but its inexcusable for our senators and other public officals to try to force their wishes on us the american people,they are paid and elected by us to be our voice not to just make their own choice,we need to stand up to them and let them know their jobs are dependant upon our votes and if we do not approve of what they are doing they will not recieve the support of our votes in their future careers!!
i will continue to write to and email the dnc and encourage others to do the same so that they understand that we the people are not happy with their decision to pick our candidate for us!!!

Posted by: we the people | May 26, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Well there goes Bill whinning again that same old theme song Po Po Hillary.
Bill can’t seem to remember that He & Hillary have spent the better part of the campaign bitterly bashing Obama, Reverend Wright, The African Americans, & most all of the minorities in this country.
Every chance they get its trying to pit white against black, latino against black. white against white, black against black, hispanic against hispanic. Anything that works to divide, polarize, or cripple our country.
While most of us blue collar & low income voters have been working hard to achieve the American Dream. Hillary & Bill have made a fortune (110,000,000 dollars) by scheming the American People out of a fortune. Another Slick Willie trick.

Posted by: sickwillie | May 26, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

It looks it may have happened again. I heard it was March 1992 when Paul Tsongas dropped out of the race and allowed Bill Clinton to get the nomination. Hillary help draw up, where the states would be stripped of their delegates back in October, now she wants it changed, its like a small child playing games and when the child is not winning wants the rules changed.I guess if you are a Clinton you can do whatever you want.
GO OBAMA GO

Posted by: wilhelmina78 | May 26, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

You know, I blame Obama (the “Uniter”, remember) for stirring up all this hatred and racial discourse and distaste for the Clintons. The colored race liked them until he started shaking things up. I hope he loses soundly in November. I am a democrat but, see trouble with cocky arrogant Obama as president. I have a tremendous fear of it. He is a true “divider” and has stirred up nothing but trouble since he came on the scene. Hillary has worked her heart out and would make a good peresident and bring this country around to good times again, Obama is just for the colored race, does not like white people and will do much damage through foolishness and inexperience. I will vote Republican, Liberatarian, or not vote at all before I would have a vote for him on my conscience. I can imagine most of these mean spirited and ignorant comments are coming from the black people he has emboldened. If he gets in office, look out!! If you think Bush
is bad, just wait, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Bess Cannon | May 26, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

louielouie, HRC said in one of the debates she would pool small businesses together. Obama’s plan is the only healthcare plan that brings up fines; he plans to fine parents who don’t insure their children. HRC has stated she thinks fines are not the way to go and is dead set against them. Obama uses fear tactics on the UHC issue. I guess that’s why he regularly has so much money to spend.

Posted by: KR | May 26, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Bill Clinton is absolutely RIGHT!

Posted by: KRoss | May 26, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Hillary has been treated bad by media rightfully because when she speaks its almost always a opps I did it again situation from bosnia to the last kennedy gafe every time she gets air play she is doing anyting to stir up racial divide. She makes the TV ratings go down she only has you HRC supporters who never see the flat out lies and it just aint enough to keep the ratings up.
Obama 08

Posted by: libra#1 | May 26, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Why does Bill Clinton get this attention from the press every day? Makes no sense. He spoke to a crowd of 200? That’s not a crowd. 80,000 is a crowd. The press needs to ignore this ignoramus Clinton dinosaur.

Posted by: Lecky | May 26, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

All the current polls show Hillary ahead of McCain and O’Bama behind McCain in a general election. Also, regarding the electoral college, estimates show Hillary ahead of Barak 300 to 217. This is all scary if you are a Democrate.

Posted by: zatachen | May 26, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

obama supporters you all agree with me right??? if they were to redo the voting process barack would win right??
we ain’t got nothing to be afraid of so bring it on barack can beat her highness again!!!!

Posted by: libra#1 | May 26, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

zatachen: i don’t know what current polls you are checking but all the ones i saw show barack beating hillary and mccain!!!!
so i think you are just making that up to make yourself feel better about your little mrs prissy losing!!! ha.ha.ha!!!

Posted by: libra#1 | May 26, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

mohsin: you agree with me right?? barack would still win even if they redo all of the voting right??

Posted by: libra#1 | May 26, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Please,please Mr.Present face the fact. Who knew Obama before Iowa? Only very few people. The nomination was long ago handed over to HRC even before the primaries began, but she blew out her chances during the process due to ill advice from her team. The game is over for her. Cant you see it. You are too intelegent for these kind of games you are playing.I do respect and love for your family and my advice is STOP,STOP STOP. A house that is divided against itself cannot stand. Its time to work to unite the party that put you on the global stage. If not then let your wife be an independent candidate and contest the elections. Even at that she will lose not only to Mccain but to Obama as well. Dont put yourself to another shame.

Posted by: Vandy | May 26, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Joy Long ago the Gov of N.J. stated he would get funding for a revote.The Repb Gov of Fla. and the Gov of Mich. both poushed for the revote.The Obama people wouldn’t go along. About money Obama has outspent Hillary 3-4 to 1 he is the best candidate money can buy.

Posted by: roncraw | May 26, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

KEEP FIGHTING HILLARY – BILL CLINTON is RIGHT!!! The obama group and media are a DISGRACE!!! Obama’s LIE about RFK is shameful- All this from the candidate of Change – Unity – FRAUD!!!
Funny how the media and obama constantly tell us it’s over – I’ve won, get out Hillary – BUT the people keep VOTING for her – and SHE is way up in the polls – and Electorial Map to win in Nov – obama is NOT.
Maybe it is the Will of the People after all! Supers must know this.
GO HILLARY!!

Posted by: Molly | May 26, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

I always enjoy seeing how Bill and Hillary supporters say that Obama is unelectable and Clinton would do so much better against McCain. If that were true, wouldn’t she be winning right now against Obama?
I just dont understand. I will just bang my head against a table and loss a few brain cells and maybe then it will make sense.

Posted by: intel | May 26, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Bill Clinton is a con-man, they didn’t call him Slick Willy for no reason. Here he is, pulling the wool over the eyes of some trusting souls, telling them that the evil one can win, despite the fact that the arithmetic works against them. Last time I checked, the nomination will be to the own who is first to 2026 delegates, and the pant-suited one is almost 200 behind, and the wiry one is about 50 from the finish line.

Posted by: Emilio | May 26, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

It all depends on what the definition of the word “is” is….

Posted by: Steve | May 26, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

I cant stand this either. This voting system is so stupid. Superdelegates and rules and stuff. This is dum. The media is so based against Hillary. Just becuase she is a woman. Its ridiculous.
News organizations hate women. They want to them to stay home and do the dishes. I dont know what is so super about thes superdelegates. They dont wear capes or have any powers. They need to fire all of them and let people vote. Unless of course, we all vote and our candidate doesnt win, then we should revote until they do. Thats what America is all about. Obama doesnt like america, he hates the flag.

Posted by: Deb | May 26, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

The majority of the country wont admit it; because I think that people actually ENJOY knocking Hillary down, but President Clinton is actually right. The simple and sad truth of it all is that if Senator Hillary Clinton were a man, NO ONE would be telling her to get out of the race early. Imagine if the nominees were Sens. Dodd and Biden. Two white men. At this point, NO ONE would be telling either to “give it up”! Sadly, its because 1.] Senator Hillary Clinton is a WOMAN, and 2.] Senator Barack Obama is a BLACK [sort of] MAN. There, I said it. That felt good.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 26, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

mohsin: so i guess its o.k. with you for hillary to continue on with the rest of the states since she has no chance of winning right??????
and barack obama does not have this whole thing wrapped up yet because it is up to superdelegates to pick our candidate for us and just because some of themhave said that they support barack they have not yet cast their votes! so saying that they are going to give their vote to barack does not mean that they have to do so!
its really funny how only the post not favoring obama get censored!!! funny huh!!

Posted by: just facts | May 26, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Probably the most disrespectful act was the Clinton’s offering Obama the VP slot after he took the lead from HRC a couple of months ago.
HRC could very well have won the nomination had she treated others with respect, run an organized campaign and continued to present her positive qualities.
HRC started out with the democratic establishment, Bill’s connections, a superdelegate lead in early Jan ’08. How can anyone think she didn’t have the backing of the organization. How could anyone possibly self destruct with such an early advantage ?
It has been stupidity (on the part of the Clintons) rather than mysogyny that has lost HRC the nomination. Too many sour grapes, too much blaming others, especially men for HRC’s foolishness.
Stop blaming men for HRC’s plicht, it was caused by a woman, one woman, HRC. If you want to pin some of the blame on a man, blame Bill.

Posted by: JonPeter | May 26, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Barack Obama “followers” keep bragging that their candidate drew a crowd of over 75,000 people to one of his “rallies” in Oregon. Uh hum. Thats true, but what the gushing pro-Obama media [e.g. MSNBC, Keith Olbermann & Chris Matthews] failed to report was that the vast majority of young people were there because the Obama campaign promoted a free concert with a popular local Washington band. THAT, in a nutshell, is all we really need to know about Senator Barack Obama folks.

Posted by: PhillyPaul | May 26, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

phillypaul says
“the vast majority of young people were there because the Obama campaign promoted a free concert with a popular local Washington band. THAT, in a nutshell, is all we really need to know about Senator Barack Obama folks.”
Whats wrong with, sounds like some damn good marketing to me. Tells me Obama has his act together and knows how to promote himself and get people involved. At least hes not 20 mil in the hole. Just imagine if Hillary had access to the US economy and budget. YIKESSS! She cant even manage the money in her campaign.

Posted by: JoJo | May 26, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

John F: hello wake up george bush ain’t running for president is he??? so grow up!!! john mccain is not george bush!! thats right say it with me now george bush and john mccain are two different people!! good job!! hillary clinton and bill clinton are not the same people,they are two different people!!
just like barack obama is not the rev.wright!right??? so if you think that john mccain is george bush than how can you not think that barack obama and the rev.wright are the same people???? hello!!!
i have never voted for president bush but since you want to blame everyone else maybe you voted for him and you feel guilty about huh???? i’m right you did vote for him did’nt you????

Posted by: 777 | May 26, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Hillary Clinton is the most capable candidate running. The Republicans do not want her as the candidate which is understandable. That certain Democrats do not want her is naive.
Barack Obama is a good man – I have no doubt of that – but the political professionals in Washington will render him ineffective.

Posted by: Gloria | May 26, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

whats anoying to me is the clintons misleading attitude.. Bill said the other day in south dakota.. all polls indicated that hillary can win the general election and not obama.. i guess they rely on the fact that most of clinton supporteds were uneducated that is why they continue their misleading..
i have good news for you bill.. here is most recent reliable poll..
((((( Obama leads in the East, the West, and in the South, while the two are essentially tied in the central part of the country, including the Midwest and the Great Lakes region, the poll shows. He leads among all voters under age 65 – including by huge percentages among those voters under age 30 – but trails McCain among those older voters by a 45% to 34% margin. Interestingly, Obama holds a 13-point edge among those voters age 50 to 64.
The survey hints that Libertarian Bob Barr could do some serious damage to McCain by stealing support among the very conservative and libertarian voters. Barr wins 10% support among those self-described “very conservative” voters, and wins 22% among philosophical (not necessarily “capital L”) libertarians. As McCain continues to angle for moderate support on the campaign trail, Barr could create havoc for him among McCain’s political base.
2008 General Election Match-ups
John McCain
37%
Barack Obama
47%
Ralph Nader
4%
Bob Barr
3%
Not sure/Other
10%
There is less evidence that Ralph Nader would cause as much trouble for Obama, but he still wins persistent support, including 6% support among mainline liberals and 3% support among progressives.
Ten percent said they were undecided or favored another candidate in a prospective contest featuring Obama and McCain.
2008 General Election Match-ups
John McCain
40%
Hillary Clinton
41%
Ralph Nader
4%
Bob Barr
3%
Not sure/Other
12%
McCain and Democrat Hillary Clinton, who lags behind Obama in the race for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, are essentially tied in the latest Reuters/Zogby polling. Clinton won 41% support compared to 40% backing for McCain.
Clinton wins less support from her Democratic base than does Obama when paired against McCain – 74% of Democrats said they would vote for her, while 8% would vote for McCain, 4% support Nader, and 13% of Dems were either undecided or favoring someone else.
McCain wins 77% of the GOP base in this latest polling against Clinton, while she wins 8% of the Republican vote.
Clinton leads McCain by a 40% to 33% margin among independents, while Nader wins 7% support and Barr wins 4% among non-aligned voters, and 16% were uncertain about whom to support in the prospective match-up.
Among progressives, Clinton wins just 60% support against McCain, hampered by Nader, who wins 13% backing from the most liberal of voters. At the other end of the philosophical scale, Libertarian Bob Barr wins 10% support to McCain’s 76% backing among the “very conservative,” while Barr and McCain tie at 24% among libertarian-minded voters in a match-up including Clinton.
Against McCain, Clinton wins just 70% support from African Americans – fully 25% less than Obama wins in that Demographic. And McCain leads her among whites by a 47% to 36% margin. Among women, Clinton leads McCain, 46% to 38%. Among men, McCain holds a 41% to 37% lead over Clinton.
Obama Builds Lead Over Clinton in National Contest
As he moves ever closer to wrapping up the Democratic Party presidential nomination, Obama is also opening up a big lead over Clinton among Democrats nationwide. In a national preference test, he leads her by a 59% to 33% margin, the latest Reuters/Zogby poll shows.
He completely dominates among those voters under age 35, winning more than 80% support, but also leads among all voters under age 70, where she holds a solid advantage. Obama also now leads among almost all likely Democratic voters according to political philosophy – moderates, mainline liberals, and progressives. Clinton leads only among conservative Democrats.
Obama also leads Clinton among both Catholics and Protestants, and among those who claim no religious affiliation..))))))
and by the way according theis poll (zogby international) predit the msot accurate result of election..
so, i have good news for you bill (the misleader), hillary can’t win according to the recent polls.. clintons; stop misleading people of america.. this nomination is all over, get over it..

Posted by: mohsin | May 26, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

yeah right bill, so hillary is the only one the media hates????
where was he when the other candidates where getting their fair share of media bashing………….he should count himself lucky that the media was so kind not to bring up issue’s from their past

Posted by: arure | May 26, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

A vote for Obama is a vote against the rights of women. A vote for Obama is telling the world that we approve of the malicious way the media has treated Hillary. A vote for Obama tells every woman to go home and stop “stirring up trouble”. A vote for Obama questions the “audacity” of an woman who thinks she has the right to be the President of the United States. A vote for Obama tells our daughters they shouldn’t reach for the stars.

Posted by: reality 80 | May 26, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Sour Grapes ?
Sore loser ?
No – Just reality hitting home.
Just because you are the spouse of a popular former President does not mean that you are qualified to lead our nation.
America is a Democracy – Not a Monarchy
and the Clinton’s just had that spelled out for them – plainly and clearly.

Posted by: PulSamsara | May 26, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

SEN. HILLARY R. CLINTON IS WINNING THE ELECTORAL VOTES TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
What a joke!!
This is the same silly, idiotic and lunatic campaign the Clintons have been running all along, and this is the exact reason Sen. Clinton has lost the primary to a much superior person and campaign.
If winning primaries can be equated to winning electoral votes, there is no need for the Presidential Election. For anybody with common sense this is not so difficult to understand. The Clinton campaign surrogates, and few news media, especially the Fox News, has been trumpeting this notion for months, and the Clintons, including former president Bill Clinton, has been repeating this slogan at every breath, to try to steal the nomination. I believe the only reason Sen. Obama and his campaign are not trying to answer this stupid argument is that they did not want to deviate from the civilized campaign they have been running so far.
Since Sen. Clinton and President Bill Clinton are both highly educated and intelligent individuals, as well as their campaign surrogates, the only reason I can imagine for the Clinton campaign to talk about the electoral vote hypothesis is that they believe that their so-called uneducated supporters can be easily mis-guided. This is just an extension of the deceitful style of the Clinton campaign.
Anybody with the basic sense can figure out that to win the Presidential Election the Democratic Nominee will essentially need votes of the supporters of both Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton. These supporters need to get out and vote again during the general election, because primary votes will not be carried over to general election!!! Looks like the Clintons take it for granted that their supporters do not know this simple fact!!

Posted by: Jim, Texas | May 26, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Hillary has been no more disrespected than anyone else. She has done herself more harm simply by her own claims, half-truths, and misspoken comments. Bill of all people, should know the scrutiny an individual undergoes when putting themselves out there to run for the Nation’s highest office.
Even if Hillary were to gain a larger share of the popular vote, the individual states’ demographics dictated the appportionment of the delegates based on each state. Bill should also know, that historically, it is and has been possible for someone to win the popular vote in the general election, but fail to garner the necessary electoral votes to win the election. So, Bill and Hillary, even if Hillary does succeed in winning the majority of the popular vote does not necessarily entitle her to win the nomination. First, the Florida and Michigan primary elections will always have asterisks to show that Hillary’s wins in these states were like a baseball player on steriods hitting a record number of homeruns in a season.
Second, the best prepared candidate was oobviously Obama. He made no assumptions about his campaign and planned to stay for the long haul, well beyond the Feb 5th date that Hillary assumed would clinch her to be the presumptive nominee.
Finally, poor planning, poorer strategy, and even poorer financial management of her campaign has made her look less capable of being in charge of anything, much less being President. She has not shown herself to be presidential in any manner.

Posted by: Geogib | May 26, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Hillary should stay in. After all we live in a Democracy. Let all the states be seated. The manner in which the media has covered this election validates this patriarchal society and how the media attacks females. Hillary is more qualified.

Posted by: Yvonne | May 26, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

mohsin
You have it spelled out perfectly .. I did not even read your comments when I typed mine .. the Clintons seem to take it for granted that only un-educated Americans support them!!

Posted by: Jim, Texas | May 26, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

When everybody told Huckabee to drop out of the Republican primary, were they being sexist, too?
*scratches forehead*

Posted by: Hopeful | May 26, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

I thought, according to the Clinton campaign, that complaining about the political process was called “whining.” And those who engage in “whining” are obviously not tough enough to be in the race in the first place.

Posted by: anthony | May 26, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

the Media and the party’s bosses have been unfair to Hillary , well, they will find out the hard way come Nov. when Obama with is naive and racist views will have no chance agaisnt Mc Cain. It is a joke that Obama is still running after the thing with his pastor surfaced . No one believe the innocence of 20 plus years of close association with someone as racist as Wright , yet , he is still the ” hope” of the Dems….what a joke …You are always judged by who you hang around with ….and yet , after all that , the media and Pelosi and Reed and the like still want Hillary to give way to him , it is gross injustice , but it is better that way because the Dems need to be taught a lesson …I will vote McCain this Nov. ….and I think Hillary should wait until 2012 and run again, Do not become Obama ‘s VP , it is a waste of time ….

Posted by: alohaone | May 26, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

I like both Clinton and Obama. I think Clinton is the correct nominee at this point in time for three reasons.
First, it doesn’t matter which one gets the nomination. The turnout just in the caucuses for either of them is amazing (in CO, for example, we had over an order of magnitude increase over the states previous best) and when the party joins behind one or another they have the general election in the bag. So “who will run better vs McCain” isn’t really an issue imo.
Second, I’d like Obama to get more experience before assuming the office. I’m not saying he couldn’t do a great job now. I’m saying that with 4 – 8 years more experience he could do an even better job. If we play him now we cheat ourselves of the opportunity to see what he could do with some more experience under his belt.
Third, after Bush’s borrow-and-spend rampage through the national finances, I really want someone to reinstate Bill Clinton’s “Pay as you go” policies regarding national spending which Hillary has pledged to do. Under Bill’s management the Debt almost completely stopped increasing and was about a year away from shrinking when Bush got a hold of the national credit card. Hillary was part of that process and knows how to do it again.
Though it will be harder now that we have roughly triple the national debt that we had when W took office.
Basically, I think there is a shot of 16 years with a democrat in the oval office if we run Clinton now and then follow up with Obama. But I don’t think it’ll work the other way round.

Posted by: Patience | May 26, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

HillaryMcain you are correct there is no legl reason for her to stop she is well within her rights to stay. However she needs to legitimize her arguments by holding herself accountable. Not the press , not the electorte. Herself. She voted to accept the DNC’s decision to prohibit Fl and MI from having elections prior to Feb 02 her comments of support for a strong process and party seem at the very least hypocriful. For her to use language now tha suggest she has been cheated. undermines the party strength she claims to be supporting. I say you are correctlet her stay in. But let her stick to her guns on all her beliefs.I think this process has been facinating.However If unity and a democratic white house then using inflamatory and distracting rhetoric that undermines the party and process will only hurt us all. so Let her stay in if she can afford it. and let her take her chances. But if her selfish devisive tactics disenfrancise the party and cost the election we will all suffer .. She fought the good fight but the facts are that she can not win without cheating or changing the rules. This will only hurt us allrules.

Posted by: Brian | May 27, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Rules … I was against ignoring Florida and Michigan from day 1 personally. Its a stupid rule. Disenfranchising the voters in that state because a couple people moved the dates around is ludicrous. John and Jane Q public didn’t agree to move the dates up and lose their votes. It was done to them and it wasn’t remotely fair.

Posted by: By_the_bookie | May 27, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

The media and film makers are color blind they only see two colors when it comes to making movies they only pick you if your white or black as I see on most movies I bet even Michigan movies makes they are doing the same thing for years there is no unity and GMA thinks Robin is the only one they favor the most so obvious and Oprah they pick only them for ABC over and over

Posted by: gg | May 27, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

SamtheCat Obama can not hit 2026 your comment is irrelevant. Obama is unelectable. You should be helping open the eyes of the Hierarchy of the DNC. If they nominaye barack, McCain will win the White House.

Posted by: libre | May 27, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Terra it won’t be over until the assembly nominates Senator Clinton. It will be over until 2012 if they nominate Obama because McCain will win the general election.

Posted by: libre | May 27, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am

I will write Hillary on the ballot, even if my vote is lost. Would never vote for Obama.

Posted by: libre | May 27, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Alpaig,
I concede, good point. However, I do not believe our two party system bears the subtilty of your argument.
NARAL has given McCain a 0% rating, 0%! – in an election cycle when two or maybe three supremes could be replaced.
Government is a broad sword, not a scalpel, in my opinion of course. I believe the way we have to look at this is across the full spectrum of issues and judge on the averages. If you want more people on health care rolls – which candidate, no better – which party is going to get that done. Ditto for a green energy policy, ditto for education, etc, etc, etc. If I were strictly voting my pocket book, heck I’d vote Republican – but I don’t, because I want a country where everyone has the same advantages – to the degree we can make such an egalitarian situation succeed.
I see the whole point of government as providing a platform for the majority to have as strong a chance at success as possible, not a guarantee, but a chance. I don’t see McCain keeping his maverick stance, I see him tacking to the right to appease his base, and staying there on major policy decisions.

Posted by: Derek | May 27, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am

I HOPE HILLARY GETS IN BECAUSE SHE RUN THE US WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE SHE CAN DO THE JOD LEAVE HER ALONE LET HER RUN THE RACE.

Posted by: arlene | May 27, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am

So Libre,
You do want a Democrat, at least from you last post stating “McCain would do nothing”, on that I agree with you.
But you do realize that Hillary has lost don’t you? Isn’t it a bit of a double-standard in you’re own right to say you are for Hillary but against Obama – to the extent of voting for McCain if Obama is nominated?
And why are we still using IF, it’s not if, it’s when – Obama is the nominee.
The real debate around Hillary vs. Obama is over, Hillary supporters should be figuring out how they can rally around Obama or whether they wish to become “conscientious objectors”.
It worked for Muhammed Ali – so good luck with that.

Posted by: Derek | May 27, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Sam the Cat-
It is like talking to a wall, but you are out there, so hope is not entirely lost, there are folks like you, who are rational and support the Democratic platform.
I agree with your points, Hillary could be a good add if she shores up Obama’s weak points. But there is a ick factor with someone who has been so vocal and negative against him.

Posted by: Derek | May 27, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

I agree with your points, Hillary could be a good add if she shores up Obama’s weak points.
Posted by: Derek | May 27, 2008 1:43:33 AM
_________________
Right! And Obama would have to spend the entire term watching his back.

Posted by: rhbate | May 27, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

I’ll take an embellishment of an actual event anytime over someone publicly stating they view the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization which was in part what Kyle Lieberman was about, so he’s on record as supporting that. Then when the vote comes up he doesn’t show and why? He had a rally. Nope, that didn’t turn out to be true. So his next excuse was that he didn’t know they’d be voting on it that day. Of course Obama does have an extremely poor voting record in having only shown up for 82% of his votes in comparison to Clinton’s 93% (McCain is down there with Obama at 83%) but this vote was a pretty big one, the equivalent of the Irag vote only for Iran. Either way, Obama clearly intentionally doesn’t show up to vote and then has the audacity to attack those who voted “yes” about a week later when he couldn’t even get his sanctimonious behind to the Senate to cast a vote. But he was smart, new politics guy that he is, in that if Bush attacks Iran this fall as predicted then he can say his judgement was that we shouldn’t have done this and that he wouldn’t have supported Kyle LIeberman, Too bad though, he had the opportunity this time (unlike the Iraq vote) to show us exactly what his judgement was but he couldn’t show up to vote. So you’ll need to take the leap of faith and trust that he would have voted as he said even though his prior public statements would indicate he most likely wouldv’e voted “yes”. So sorry, an embellishment of a Bosnia trip in my mind is not even in the same category as a vote that could open up the door to an attack on Iran. Clinton voted “yes” and as I said she showed up and was willing to take the flak and I should mention Clinton and Webb sponsored a bill a week later saying that Bush could not go into Iran without the approval of Congress. So you can get hung up on Bosnia stories just like others will get hung up on flag lapel pins but I’m alot more interested in their record on issues that are of relevence to this Country.
And the Obama scam on Kyle Lieberman says volumes that concern me alot more than embellishing an event that occurred, it’s like the big fish story.

Posted by: alpaig | May 27, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

oh God please all these anti Obamas..
dont be such sore losers.
We all know Clinton is not going to be the nominee so have some respect for the majority who voted. Stop making excuses, just accept the democratic process which is what the Demoocratic party is all about.
If hillary wins, Im sure voting for her. But your frequent negative outbursts and threats just making everything look very bad
Stop being bitter bt accept defeat graciously.

Posted by: Ken | May 27, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Derek I want a Democrat. Obama is not a Democrat. He has his own extremist agenda.

Posted by: libre | May 27, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

We are bitter. We won’t vote for Obama

Posted by: libre | May 27, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

Torch,
“Hopeful, the differnce is that Hillary’s plan will provide legal protections against such game playing by the insurance companies. Do you remember when this all started?”
There is no such thing as a legal protection against game playing. Either the insurance company pays your doctors/hospital bills or they don’t. Since they don’t without a bunch of hassle and screwing up people’s credit (like the rogue blackmailers they are), enough of us have figured out that health insurance isn’t worth it.
Enough of us know that health insurance offers no assurance of getting medical bills paid, so we’ve “opted out”. But, now that we, the consumers, are beginning to make a statement that gets the healthcare industries attention, Hillary wants to roll that progress back by making it illegal for us to reject overpriced insurance that offers no assurances.
Hillary is protecting the health care industry’s CEOs and doctors, not us. What next? Mandatory legal plans so that the lawyers can keep getting paid?
And as far as “remember when” goes… I remember when Hillary Clinton told that big bald-faced lie about the woman who lost her baby because she didn’t have health insurance. Talk about ambulance chasing and not properly vetting “stories” before stumping!
I also remember when Obama said his plan is not mandatory. His reason for stating that he didn’t want it to be universal just yet (affordability) let me know that he’s done his homework AND he’s in touch with working class people’s issues.
Take care.
Obama ’08!

Posted by: Hopeful | May 27, 2008, 6:00 am 6:00 am

If approximately 50% of the voting democrats are voting for HRC, don’t you think that perhaps that might be a BIG factor as to why she is still in this race??? She is in it for the duration, because WE THE PEOPLE want her in it.
You know, in the end, your guy may get the nomination. Why do you have to keep trashing her and her supporters?

Posted by: Debbie | May 27, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

Clinton should quit all this whining. If he can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. And take that daughter and wife with him. It is getting so that I can’t stand to see their whining lying mugs on TV any more.

Posted by: joeforsure | May 27, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am

Hey!! Bill!! Get a grip! Your wife is not being disrespected “just for running.” She’s being disrespected for who she is – a self-serving, lying, conniving witch who was errantly trying to ride your nefarious coattails back into the White House, and dragging your sorry arse along with her. And hence the real source of YOUR transparent “anger” – you really want back in the White House too, but the damned Constitution is in your way.

Posted by: Namako OH3 | May 27, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Debbie – Actually, it’s only about 30% of the Democrats who still beleive she’s in it for them. The rest of her votes are coming from Republicans who don’t want McCain to have to face Obama in the General Election.

Posted by: Namako OH3 | May 27, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

And there were the scandals, His and Hers.
They are known, in brief, as: Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Whitewater, the White House travel office firings, White House coffees and Lincoln bedroom stays for donors, FBI background files on Republicans, missing documents and the presidential pardon of a fugitive friend.
The episodes involving women were his. Most of the others were theirs or hers.
For Bill to talk about disrespect of his wife is almost funnie. He should know.
However I will support Obama first but will support who ever wins the nomination.

Posted by: CW | May 27, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Disrespect? If there is any disrespect it has been brought on by Hillary and the disrespectful campaign she and Bill have run against Obama. Shameful. Obama/2008

Posted by: PhilBgood | May 27, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

CW-I agree with all of your 8:52am post. I struggle with the last sentence however. I mean for myself – I certainly respect your decision to vote for who ever wins the nomination. All those things you mentioned about the Clinton White House are true and I’m not sure I could support Hillary if she were to win. We know who the Clintons are…they have a record of deceit and corruption…I don’t think I could ever vote for Hillary knowing that. It would be a real inward struggle for me. I guess I could always write in Edwards.

Posted by: Joy | May 27, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

There’s no conspiracy. People want her out because she’s a poor reflection on the party. When you make comments that she is winning in the popular votes and if you don’t count Florida and Michigan, that is the reason people want her out. She agreed to the Florida and Michigan rulings when she thought she would win handily, now she needs them and is crying foul. YES, the Democrats need those 2 states, and the only way they’ll get them is if she stops trying to divide the party over them.

Posted by: Richard | May 27, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

This is lame. The Clinton’s use of the popular vote argument does not take into account caucus states. I suppose those states are still among those that the Clinton’s don’t matter.

Posted by: Dan Romens | May 27, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Man, talk about sore losers! People’s true character comes out during times of adversity!
At first, it seemed like the Clintons would do the right thing by toning down the negative rhetoric and winding down the campaign. What do they think they’re doing at this point? I didn’t want to believe them, but at this point I think there is some truth to the conspiracy theories of how Hillary wants to undermine Obama so that she can run again in 2012.
For the Clintons, it’s always me, me, me, and screw the party.

Posted by: Nancy | May 27, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

I used to have admiration and somehow respect for Bill Clinton but now he has become a fraud with the credibility of a snake oil salesman. I wonder if they will be able to milk another $109 mil in the future. Sad end of their political careers.

Posted by: J. Moreno | May 27, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Re-enter the “Hillary the Victim” strategy.
It’s the media. It’s Obama. It’s sexism.
The pattern is oh too familiar: (1) Say tsomething provocative. (2) take it back after the seed has been planted. Then (3) accuse the Obama people (who’ve been careful not to retaliate in kind) of “piling on.
Whatever happened to “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the proverbial kitchen?”
The tragedy in all this isn’t simply that the Clintons are dragging Sen. Obama, the media and the political process down.
It’s the damage they’re doing to themselves.

Posted by: JJeff | May 27, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

First, we trusted Kennedy, Jackson and Hart to leave the race in a way that did not do damage to the Party’s chances in the General Election. Second, many candidates have been pushed out of races for lesser reasons – Dean’s so called scream, Biden’s plagiarism, and Muskie’s tears can’t match the Bosnia whopper, which along with the loss of 12 straight contests didn’t push her out of the race. And talk about pressure on superdelegates – what about calling one who strayed in the Obama column a “Judas.” This is vintage Clinton whine.

Posted by: Maureen | May 27, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I campaigned and raised money and voted for Bill C in 90 and 94. When he finished his office I concluded he was the greatest disappointment of all the presidents (12) I have lived under. (I expected nothing from Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush.)
I would like to support Hillary, but both Clintons have exhibited desperation to get back into the White House.
My conclusion: Obama = class; Clinton = crass.

Posted by: two7five7one | May 27, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

And here we are, finally. America is seeing Hillary and Bill as the rest of the world has seen them for 20 years.
It becomes more apparent with every passing day that these two people couldn’t give a damn about their country.
These are the “neigbors” you befriend, then after some time you come to realize they’re sociopaths, and now you have to figure out what the hell you do. Since they have some weak-minded neighbors who are yet to figure them out, you don’t even bother enlightening the stupid – you just move.
They aren’t going to change. They’ll continue to bring attention to themselves, and lie with a straightface, and there’s very little you can do. Frankly, it’s embarassing for everyone.

Posted by: Dentuso | May 27, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

i wish some of you people would read the rules of this current campaign…popular vote has ZERO to do with this just like in the GE…nothing. so what if she keeps counting the votes from two disqualified states, it doesn’t matter and she agreed to the rules in the beginning like everyone else. if she has such ‘great concern’ about how the citizens of FL are being treated like the citizens in Zimbabwe she should have spoke up before the election wasn’t going her way…one interesting thing is that she doesn’t seem to care about 500,000+ Independents that can’t even vote in the FL primary, what’s up with that…aren’t they like the citizens in Zimbabwe too? or is it just the people that voted for her??? would she be trumpeting this “injustice” if she was the favored candidate? i think we all know the answer to that…i was for hillary at first until she turned in to a scum bag like bill, more clintonian BS…i wish the clintons and the bush family would disappear…enough is enough, they both have ruined this place with their corporate favoritism and slave labor deals with dictators in third world nations….disgusting.

Posted by: david | May 27, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

For Bill Clinton to lecture ANYONE about disrespecting women, simply put, leaves me incredulous. This from a guy who has a history of cheating on his wife on numerous occasions. He should have let someone else in his wife’s campaign toot that horn!

Posted by: Chris Salzmann | May 27, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Will this guy be able to find anyone willing to pay him 350K for his speaking ability after this campaign? Or better yet will he still have the leverage to be able to sell access to our government?

Posted by: SDindependent | May 27, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Okay,now everything is very clear.The Democrats are bent on making John McCain president and that is the reason they are ignoring Hillary and how she would sweep the polls.But,Bill,you should be happy for McCain is a patriot like Hillary who loves this country unlike Obama and has passed the Commander in Chief test!About muscling the superdeleates he may be a little confused.I thought Hillary’s camp was the one doing that or may be it is another media illusion.It is all media’s fault.How dare the media go crazy over a President who had no respect for the sanctity of his office and repeatedly lied under oath?The damn media even called his Presidency one of the prosperous times an gave him full credit though the Congress wa controlled by Republicans and there were other factors like the global economic factors.Wait the global economy owes its good time to Clinton,anythought otherwise will be a conspiracy!

Posted by: Vish | May 27, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

I do not hate Hillary Clinton supporters, but I do not understand how they can’t see that they are being played. An Elitist group of people accusing the relatively “poor” one of being elitist because of what? I forgot, he was the one accepting outrageous sums of money from governments not neccessarily favorable to the U.S. in speaking engagements. He’s an Elitist because he would pull down his pants in front of women he desired in the White House and back in Arkansas because he had power and could get away with it? Or is it that famous Cigar he smoked? The Clintons are making people hate them. The Clintons are trying to drive a wedge between poor white/women voters and poor black voters/college graduates/young people so she has an argument. I have no illusions that Mr. Obama is some god-like figure, but I definately have reasons for not voting for Hillary. Web Hubbell, Rose Law Firm, Healthcare gone bad, not reading the NIE, voting for the authorization for the war. There are REAL reasons for not voting for Hillary.

Posted by: Johnson | May 27, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

So is this how the Clintons bring the party together? Fabulous.
Good luck and goodbye.

Posted by: Ava | May 27, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Both of the Clinton’s have far surpassed anything we have seen in fighting for a candidacy; be it for Senate or President. Yet, they seem oblivious as to how much this fight is actually hurting them (individually) or their legacy.
I will refrain from trying to psychoanalyze them both, but I can say that they both seem to be deeply in denial as to how they are damaging themselves as well as the pain inflicted upon the rest of us. Yes, they are hurting US, the citizens to whom they seemingly have pledged allegiance, even though that affiliation seems to depend on the whim of the day.
Yes, I’m hurt, am actively being hurt and will bleed profusely if this continues much further.

Posted by: PollyTics | May 27, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

The truth has never been a strong suit for the Clintons.

Posted by: BillyBudd | May 27, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

An odious question emerged in my head the other day regarding Sen. Hillary Clinton and Former two-term President Bill Clinton’s vicious clawing at Sen. Barack Obama for yet another-presumably, dual-term at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue: were pre-2008 Presidential campaign pledges to the yet “undisclosed” Clinton Foundation benefactors hedged against a once inevitable Bill & Hillary Clinton White House redux? Is it even remotely conceivable…even thinkable, that the former two-term First Couple has long hedged winning a “Clinton administration Redux” or “The White House” against the “$1/2-a-Billion” dollars the Clinton Foundation’s yet undisclosed donors have contributed thus far?
Well aware…if these benefactors were disclosed, they represent gross conflict-of-interest incidences. I’m curious as to what favors have this group of obviously well-heeled…and generous, lobbyist sought in return for so many onetime donations topping $30, $20, $10, $5, and $1-million dollars? Twice duped” by George Bush’s 2000/2004 “contested” elections, would Americans likely awaken to headlines bearing the following subtext later: “As a Former First Couple, it now appears the “dynastic” duo has long wagered- presumptively, a onetime-thought-to-be-inevitable Democratic nomination and subsequent presidency against hundreds-of-millions in off-the-record donations made to The Clinton foundation courtesy of long list of “yet undisclosed donors?”
Query: Once again, what type speculative bargaining…back-room-dealings, have Bill & Hillary Clinton already wagered against not only her winning the democratic nomination and subsequent 2008 Presidential campaign, but also that of trillions more of debt to be passed on to already financially-strapped American tax-payers? Otherwise, what form of benevolence would justify donors anteing-up sums ranging from $1 to $31-million dollars individually… altruistically, and anonymously least there was underlying “political-pork” in-play?”

Posted by: CBW/Houston | May 27, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Yes, I agree with the President! Hillary is running a very strong campaign and yet superdelegates just kept asking her to get out. If I were the Clintons, i would leave the party and join the republicans or independent.I wouldn’t support Obama because he will bring more trouble than anyone could ever imagine.

Posted by: jean | May 27, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Give me a frikkin break Bill!!
First it was the race card, then sexism, now a cover up…how many more excuses do you have?
The Clintons are running this campaign like a whiney suburban soccer mom would. Everybody gets a trophy….NO! your kid loss he doesn’t get a trophy deal with it! Its life, you win some you lose some. Either way do it with dignity!
I can’t wait for this to be over!!

Posted by: NC4OB | May 27, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Wait! Is this 2002? I thought the vast, right wing conspiracy was a Republican plot. When was it co-opted by the Democrats?

Posted by: Emmett | May 27, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Kerry and dem38 are the same persons. They are republicans trying to raise concerns among us independents and democrats. We who won’t except another four years of republicans bad policy making, giving to the rich at the expense of the poor, or keeping this lousy war going until 2013. These people pretend to be democrats but we know better. Obama will beat McCain by 20% of the vote in the general election.
They will keep tell you different. Rush knows that Obama will kick McCain’s butt, thats the reason he wants Hillary in there instead of Obama. The Clintons should just let the process move on.

Posted by: Borg | May 27, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Ya’ reap what ya’ sow, ya’ know. The chickens are coming home to roost. If HC had acted respectably, she’d be treated respectably. But she didn’t. But what a huge ego and sense of entitlement the Billaries are showing now.
I’m a middle aged white woman, and I think a woman with the right qualities is perfectly capable of running this country. I also think a black man or an Asian or anyone with the right qualities, male or female, is capable of running this country. But not Hillary Clinton. Even if you take her at her word and believe she just misspoke and didn’t really mean what she said all those times, is that what you really want in the White House? A President who when under pressure says all the wrong things? What if we were in a real moment of crisis – and she said the wrong thing to a foreign head of state sitting on a nuclear arsenal? Do we really want her answering the phone at 3 a.m., after all the blunders we’ve seen come out of her mouth?
I say goodbye, and good riddance. Let the real race begin, and may the best man – or woman, in some future race – win.

Posted by: TheoM | May 27, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

ConcernedWorld wrote: “And it is fact the media favoured Barack Obama from the beginning. And Hillary had no chance of winning over the media. It was a sexist campaign.”
Well, many Hillary supporters make thi claim but they never provide any proof. Ay concrete facts to support your claim? One fact?

Posted by: Man | May 27, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

The Clinton’s play the victim so well.

Posted by: Dave Allen | May 27, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

the narcissism of both clintons is on embarrassing display, the more desperate they get. it seem forgotten in the clinton spin that at the beginning hillary was anointed as the inevitable nominee by a preening press, to the distress of many who were not enthusiastic about her. not because she is woman, but because we questioned her character – our reservations have been confirmed by her present endgame: everyone against her is a sexist involved in a conspiracy to bring her down. her “tenacity” seems like george w’s reality defying stubbornness: no man or woman with this trait should be president. her campaign, among all the dizzying spin and revisionist interpretation of the past year, want us to forget that 8 of the initial 10 candidates showed good sense and dropped out months ago; they didn’t complain, since they didn’t feel the sense of entitlement she does. she’s losing not because she’s woman. she’s losing because she is a part of a dynasty when americans are wary of dynasties. she’s losing because she offers to little change and represents the bruising nasty politics that we’re all tired of: her campaign and it’s tireless and faith-based manipulation of reality is the best indicator of what her presidency would be like. only the clintons would belittle her own history making run for the presidency as subverted by sexism and the media unless she wins. winning appears to be the only criterion for them: the end is paramount for, never the means. hillary lost because obama won: it’s that simple.

Posted by: jonah soper | May 27, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

One of the great consequences of Hillary losing this campaign is that we don’t have to see that embarassing husband of hers anymore. And who does he keep talking to in these settings, 10 people and Harvey the invisible rabbit. Enough of stupid politics. Let’s get to the real campaign.

Posted by: Debra | May 27, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am

When the Clintons were running against the Republicans in the 90′s, they always cried that there was a vicious attack or conspiracy against them. Sometimes true, sometimes not true.
Now they are treating their fellow Democrats the same way. Nothing is ever their fault…they take no responsibility or accountability when things do not go their way. Not a positive message or role model for our youth.
V.I.C.T.I.M.

Posted by: Independent44 | May 27, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Sometimes when I’m watching Clinton spin his lies I’m reminded of a spider mesmerizing a fly … I know what’s in it for the spider … but what’s in it for the fly. What’s in it for Clinton supporters who by their own admission aren’t so much for Clinton … but by the evidence of their willingness to vote for McCain … against Obama.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 27, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

My personal opinion is that Obama doesn’t need Clinton supporters. Sure it’ll be closer but if Clintons support comes with some attachment … better off without them.
The political process is better off without this couples ability to corrupt the thinking of normally sane people.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 27, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Las Vegas odds makers say Obama is going to win.
Rasmussen polling has sucked since 2000.

Posted by: Dave | May 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Dear Media Failed Voters: Are you having hallucinations? Who called Clinton a B—–? Who called her all these words? The blogs? Obama has been called a terrorist, unpatriotic, evil, etc. in the blogs.
Get a grip. This ‘unfairness’ is in your mind and the minds of the Clintons who have taken NO responsibility for their failed candidacy. If you want somebody to blame, blame the candidate who picked bad campaign advisors, or a husband who can’t keep his mouth in check, or Clinton herself for saying some stupid things. But most of all blame Clinton for running one of the worst campaigns in modern American history; squandered money on ‘the show’ of a big campaign, not understanding how the primaries were set up even though her leading advisors were the ones who created the system. The list is endless. Your outrage is either based on having an emotional breakdown or is manufactured. Give it up.

Posted by: Debra | May 27, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

must be one of those vast, left-wing conspiracies.

Posted by: bruce | May 27, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

I agree with Bill, we live in a sexist country and men today still do not want a woman in power. Men have been running this country since the begining and look what kind of mess were in. It takes a woman to clean up the slop the men have left behind and Obama is a pig right along with the rest of them. Dont let it fool you. If Hillary does not get the nimination I am voting for McCain. I think he has a better ability to navigate through the whitehouse.

Posted by: laura williams | May 27, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Well, Bill is ‘at it again’. Although I frankly don’t at this point doubt his statements, the reality is, Obama IS going to be the nominee, and continued statements like this only go to divide the Democrats. Why not ensure Democratic victory? The reason is, the Clintons only really care about the Clintons.

Posted by: Daniel | May 27, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Former President Clinton said — She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.’”
Somebody tell him that we are still in the Primary and this is not the General Election.

Posted by: dotheresearch | May 27, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

The Clinton campaign ran a very negative campaign against Obama, scrutinizing everything he ever did. Conversely, the Obama largely (although at one point they HAD to start defending themselves) took the high road. Adding it all up, the Clinton campaign painted Obama in a very negative light. Were each candidate to play that game equally, Clinton would have been beaten down much more by the media than she was. Therefore, I have to think current polls pitting Clinton vs. McCain, Obama vs. McCain would show Obama to have a much better chance against McCain than Clinton.
Further, Bill said she’d win the general election if you’d vote for her. Sure, but SO WOULD Obama, if you were to vote for him!!
Lastly, I continue to rail against the Clinton campaign for saying Clinton leads in the popular vote. The only reason she does is because they’re counting the Michigan and Florida votes. If you recall, one candidate took his name off the ballot in one of those states, an action mandated by the Democratic Party. Therefore, there was only one choice for that state, that of Clinton. To be fair (and the Clinton campaign repeatedly likes to use this unfair statistic), the results of that state should NOT be included in the counts for the overall popular vote.
Clinton is done. This rationalization of helping the Democratic Party by continuing her campaign is pure manure. She is a worthy candidate, but not as worthy as Obama. And Obama is the one candidate in this whole race that can unify the people of the United States, the one candidate that can provide hope for a better nation and a better world. We need that in the presidency right now.

Posted by: Chris in Illinois | May 27, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

It all comes done to this: She is running her election in the red, which will be the same way she will run the country – on a credit card.
The excuse she is “tired” when she makes these crazy comments is getting a little old. Since it is proven you say exactly what you are truly thinking when you are tired. How soon before she makes some crazy comment about or to a foreign leader?
Heck she makes these comments at 2pm in the afteroon what is she going to be like at 3am?

Posted by: Dave | May 27, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

I have not seen Hillary Clinton treated so disrespectfully since Bill Clinton disrespected her with Monica Lewinsky. Bill Clinton already showed the world that his wife is not to be taken seriously. This is not the way to make a gracious exit.

Posted by: Sean O'Brien | May 27, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Scary this guy was your President for 8 years 0 true colours coming out now.

Posted by: 887 | May 27, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Bill and Hillary both suffer from ‘foot in mouth disease’ and everytime you turn around they are blaming someone or some organization for their own failures. Last week Hillary and her advisors blamed Obama for her stupid remarks about Bobby Kennedy. When is Hillary going to take responsibility for running a terrible campaign? The media is not treating her any differently than any of the other candidates. I would say that Senator Obama has been more scrutinized than Hillary. It’s time for Hillary to concede defeat and go home.

Posted by: whcjr46 | May 27, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Go sit down Bill, you don’t get a third term.

Posted by: Tia | May 27, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

If the Clintons are crying “sexism” now what happens if she becomes president? If they think America is sexist, wait until she has to deal with leaders in the Middle East. Do we really want to listen to Bill making excuses for her for the next four years?

Posted by: Sean | May 27, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

I definitely still look fondly on Bill Clinton’s years as President as a net positive for this country, but after seeing how low they’ve stooped to pull the wool over our eyes in this election cycle, I no longer have any respect for either him or HIllary.
And P.S., my vote was leaning for Hillary at the beginning of the primary season. By the time it came for me to vote in the Potomac Primary, she had lost my vote to Barack.

Posted by: Joe Kris | May 27, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

This is to all you folks who plan on voting for McCain instead of Obama: By your own statements, you prove yourselves both foolish and hypocrites, and certainly shouldn’t claim to be democrats. Most of you claim lack of experience and poor judgment, and Rev Wright as you primary reasons for not voting for Obama, and in the next breath say you will vote for McCain?!?! Ummmmm, have you actually tried applying these standards in any serious way to they guy you say you will vote for? Suck it up people, and get past the cults of personality around our candidates, and realize what is really at stake here! The War, our troops, the Supreme Court!!! Wire tapping, the Justice Department, torture…Should I keep going, oh wait, how about the CONSTITUTION!? How can you people keep squabbling when this and so much more is at stake. Get over yourselves and VOTE for DEMOCARTIC candidate!

Posted by: Lazaro | May 27, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

From the very beginning, republicans said that Hillary7 is polarizing and she has lived up to every letter of the word

Posted by: 5075 | May 27, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Is it possible?…the clintons are worse than the bush’s

Posted by: wdm, ny | May 27, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

I am hearing rumors that Hillary will be running as an Independent. That must put fear into the hearts of Obama supporters!

Posted by: jmt | May 27, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

I am hearing rumors that Hillary will be running as an Independent. That must put fear into the hearts of Obama supporters!
Hillary pulls a Lieberman!!!
That has worked out so well.
So she pulls a Nader and makes sure McCain wins and she runs again in 2012 as a Democrat. We’re doomed.

Posted by: Dave | May 27, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

It is time for the Clintons to stop playing the victims. Pres. Clinton contributed greatly to Sen. Clinton’s present situation. Times have changed. We have seen the dishonesty, self-privileged attitude, and game playing that has come out of the political atmosphere in Washington. Unfortunately, it is the only game that the Clintons know how to play. Hence, they appear representative of the system they say they want to change. As the campaign waged on, it became more apparent that Hillary was willing to be dishonest, self-privileged, and a player of political games. This is why she has lost this primary.

Posted by: WGT | May 27, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Bill Clinton’s complaint that he has never “seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully” sounds a bit hollow in light of his disrespectful treatment of Hillary for years during their troubled marriage. The crowning blow was of course his adolescent behavior in the White House that humiliated her and damaged his presidency.

Posted by: George Stoddard | May 27, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

I would agree … At 3am in the morning I know who I don’t want answering the phone.

Posted by: beaupritchard | May 27, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Wah, Wah, Wah…. Yada, Yada, Yada.
Bill is cryinf louder than Hill. They just cant get it out of their head that THEY ARE DONE.
The sun has set.
The train has come and gone, and they weren’t on it.
The buzzer has sounded.
They keep on knocking, but they can’t come in.
Their beer bottles are empty
The fat lady is singing “Amazing Grace”
They need to “Hit The Road, Jack”
Na na, na na na – na, hey hey, GOOD-BYE!

Posted by: imdkeeper | May 27, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

The Clintons remind me of a baseball team that loses the game and then blames it on the umpires.
I think his claim is rediculous.
The Bobby Kennedy remark was a chilling reminder that they are not on a realistic plane with this campaign. They are in denial.

Posted by: Lynne | May 27, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

It’s the vast left-wing conspiracy, stupid.

Posted by: marie burns | May 27, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Hillary wants preferential treatment: anything short of this is “sexism”.

Posted by: Joel C | May 27, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Sorry Bill, my bad– I thought it would be OK to get Hillary out of the race now cause you didn’t have a problem back in the day when I did the same to Tsongas and then you let me bully him into endorsing you, essentially killing Brown’s hopes by dragging all them delegates to you. You know you got to tell us in advance when you want to change the rules. this on the fly thing is really not working for us…

Posted by: JAZ K | May 27, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Anyone not blinded by misplaced loyalty can see that the failure of HRC’s campaign is entirely due to herself, Bill and their hand-picked managers.
Add to that the many, many times she has misspoken and had to retract, backtrack or “apologize” and you have 2 clear reasons why she does not have what it takes to be president. To quote her: “Words matter”.
Even with such glaring weaknesses, I could understand people continuing to support her had it not been for the fact that they have clearly adopted the cynical and blatantly dishonest strategies of Rove and Bush. They twist, deflect and persist with outright falsehoods and lies in the belief that saying it often and loudly enough will get the public to believe.
McCain would be 4 more years of Bush? I think the Clintons would be as well.

Posted by: CratDemo | May 27, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

This thing with the Clintons, it is the perfect material for a Greek tragedy, it really is. How two people, a couple, can change so much in the face of broken dreams. Or, how the real personalities come up in the face of broken dreams. I don’t know which it is. But I do know it would make an Oscar winning movie. So much drama, both personal and public. And I also do know that we Americans cannot afford anymore to be a backdrop to personal tragedies. I am sorry, but it is not professional to bring your problems to us. There are so many issues waiting to be dealt with.

Posted by: YouThinkAndTalk | May 27, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Hillary supporters by the millions have also poured their hearts and money into her reaching so far. Yes she has had to loan to her campaign. But her victory in Virginia and Kentucky has shown her resilience. She may not win the nomination. But the democratic party needs both Obama and Hillary together on one ticket to defeat McCain. Believe me neither Hillary nor Obama alone can win against McCain. The all too powerful lobby that support the Republican machine will once again spend millions and even cheat to put McCain in. However there is a slim chance that with the united forces of Hillary and Obama they can overcome the obstacles and get into the White House by a slim margin. But we need to put pressure on both hillary and Obama. If Obama wins then Hillary should be the V.P and if by some miracle Hillary wins then Obama should be the V.P On to victory.
I also strongly believe that Florida and Michigan must be counted but the only right solution is to have revotes or new primaries where voters return to the polling booths to show their true preference either for Obama or Hillary. First of all the rule was silly to start with. Then no one campaigned in those states. And Obama for whatever reason took his name off the ballot in Michigan. Anyways just what was DNC smoking to have made the stupid mistake ? There is no way Florida and Michigan can be excluded. That is like committing a suicide. Those voters are too important to exclude. But just splitting or allocating votes is not the right solution. Why should Obama or Hillary be afraid to face the voters the right way in those states ? But any revotes must be done quickly. If it is done by mail proper procedures must be in place so that there is no cheating or problems.
Ideally it would be better to let the voters go to the polling booths to recast their votes with both Obama and Hillary’s names on the ballots.
Ultimately whatever happens the end result should be a dream ticket. It will be a huge mistake for either Obama or Hillary running against McCain. Bush and the republicans may be at their lowest ratings but that does not mean that McCain and the Republican machine cannot win.
If the democrats are smart and if important democratic politicians are smart they will pressure for a dream ticket.
I do not think that the differences that are present right now while the campaign is still on will cause any problems once the nominee is decided and once the dream team is formed and once the real campaigning starts against McCain. And by dream team I mean either Obama-Hillary or Hillary-Obama.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 27, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

clintons shill lawyers . every thing is slanted and in the grey zone ,right hound dog.say it again for me slick;”it all depends on what it,is”.

Posted by: carl holod | May 27, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Hillary Clinton is losing because she has shown herself to be devious and void of ethics. She agreed that the Michigan and Florida vote wouldn’t count. Now that she is losing, she wants us to believe having these votes count is a civil rights issue. In Michigan, voters were not even allowed to write in Obama’s name – some 27,000 still wrote names in and had their votes disqualified. Another 45% of the electorate voted for uncommitted, rather than cast their votes for Hillary. I live in Michigan, and if the Democratic Party wants to lose the state in the general election they can ignore all the people who wanted to vote for Obama but were not allowed to. Allow me to put what Hillary is trying to do in Michigan in perspective. We invaded Iraq and promised to install democracy after Saddam Hussein, like Hillary, held an election where he was the only name on the ballot. Everyone, including Clinton, called that election a travesty. They were right.
In Florida, the voters came out because of the highly controversial property tax initiative on the ballot. These voters were more likely to be older homeowners, not the younger folks Obama’s attracting. It should be noted that no candidate campaigned in either state, a fact that gave Hillary a significant edge. Because of greater name recognition, she began the primary race in most states with a substantial lead. In most states, that lead quickly disappeared after Obama began campaigning there. The Clinton’s claims are specious at best and downright dishonest at worst. Hillary is being advised to leave the race because she has lost the delegate count, the only count that matters. It is all about the math, not her sex. A final note, it is astounding that we are being asked by the Clinton campaign to believe that Obama’s generally college educated, more affluent voters are more likely to be sexist than Hillary’s more poorly educated white , working class voters are likely to be racist. Got figure.

Posted by: Lloyd | May 27, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

tune down the rhetoric for a second and consider…
HRC has run an awful campaign, squandered millions raised, made bad staff and strategy decisions. She was the clear front runner with support from the party bosses and institutional Dem backers, and yet her campaign got got stuck and struggled to find a consistent message. The only message that has worked for her are negative and divisive themes: the other guy is black and some whites wont vote for him.. ‘i’m not winning because everyone is sexist’.
Forget the fact she is a woman, or that her name is “Clinton”, or that she’s a white, or that she is a senator from the north east… Given her record at the head of her own campaign (the largest organization she has EVER run) Why does this person deserve to be president of our country?
fair is fair. even w/ a substantial head start HRC’s campaign imploded because bad decision making. and that lost her the job.

Posted by: susan | May 27, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Listen and learn people!
What Bill Clinton is saying is true!
He is only trying to defend his wife just like Obama tried doing the same with telling the press to “lay off his wife” with attacks on what she says on the campaign trail.
Hillary has no reason to get out of the race right now. LET THE PEOPLE VOTE!
Just 32% of all democrats want Hillary out of the race. 32%! So you got 68% agreeing she should remain right where she is because there is some math that do favor her doing so.
So if anyone should “lay-off” pushing her out, it’s the press and Obama supporters.

Posted by: aquaglass | May 27, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

The good ole boys of the democratic party (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschle, etc.) began rigging things against Hillary 4 years ago when they propped Obama up as the keynote speaker of the democratic convention to challenge Hillary because the good ole boys did not want a woman. The good ole boys then got Obma savvy political operatives (Axelrod, etc.) and used their good ole boys machine against Hillary. Then the good ole boys along with th pro-Obama media (Axelrod’s brother is a big shot in the media) then character assassintated Hillary on a daily basis, and twisted and jumped down her throat on everything Hillary said and did. The good ole boys also strategically blocked Hillary’s wins in Florida and Michigan because with those wins, Hillary would have defeated Obama months ago. Then Obama and his cronoies blocked new primaries from taking place in Florida and Michigan because the polls showed that Hillary would wallop Obama by even a wider blow out in these states. In addition, speaking of Michigan, Obama strategically took his name off the ballot in Michigan because the polls showed that Hillary would wallop him there and Obama then pushed for voters in Michigan to vote “uncommitted” but Hillary still walloped Obama (“uncommitted”) in Michigan. In Florida, Obama broke the rules and ran TV ads just before the primary, but Hillary still walloped Obama in Florida. Hillary followed the rules and did not campaign in either state, but Hillary never said that the votes shouldn’t count. What the good ole boys has done regarding Hillary’s victories in Florida and Michigan is totally corrupt and rigged. The good ole boys have also rigged the superdelegates against Hillary. This is proven by the fact that everytime Hillary blows Obama out in a state (such as the Appalacians), the superdelegates keep trickling over to Obama. I call on Hillary to run as an independent; otherwise I call on all us Hillary supporters to vote for McCain in the general; but still vote for democrats in the congressional races. The good ole boys, the pro-Obama media, Obama and his corrupt cronies need to be taught a lesson once and for all.

Posted by: Syofie | May 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Sorry for all those Dems who will not vote if their candidate is not the winner. GET REAL!!! If McCain get in, he will stack the Supreme Court in favor for one that side with big buisness. Do you really want that, remember the High Court made it more difficult for Women to sue if they feel they were discriminated against them on the base of thier sex. WOW!! lets all go backwards.

Posted by: Tom Hansen | May 27, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Why has this primary turned into a Woman’s Rights issue? In the beginning of this process, I would have voted for Hillary. It was the tone and direction of her campaign, lead by her and her husband, that turned me in another direction. I have nothing against a woman being president, I have problem with this woman being the president. I think the women’s rights activist should take a look at how Sen. Clinton has represented them and not just look at themselves as victims of the media or Obama. Is this how you want to be portrayed? If so, then the wait will be much longer.

Posted by: WGT | May 27, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

I usually don’t respond on these sites, but I just couldn’t help myself here. Does no one remember just a few short weeks ago how Hillary lied, not once, not twice, not even three times, even in her book?? Did no one see the clips over and over and over? She told bold faced lies and was absolutely believable!! We have all told fibs and worse, but does it not scare anyone, if you saw her clips, how believable she is?!! She can say anything and make you believe it. What will she lie about to get in and what will she lie about after she’s in?? The GAS break, what a joke! She couldn’t do that this summer if she wanted to, and if she could, the oil companies will just raise the price of gas for that amount before you save a dime. SHE WILL SAY ANYTHING SHE THINKS YOU WANT TO HEAR IN ORDER TO WIN!. You may not like what Obama said about the oil, but at the risk of losing voters, at least he told the truth about the situation. HONESTY, HMMM…….That’s new!
All they can find in Obama’s past is an “affiliation” with an awful man. Can we say that about the Clintons? I don’t think so! AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT ANY OF IT, but they beat Obama up for that jerk in his church. I am a white, Italian Catholic woman. Wake up people and see at least that the Clintons are NOT the perfect pair that some play them out to be……….All the comments about the “Clintons” and how wonderful they are! Just the fraud innuendos and sexual messes in their pasts, both of them, should make you all cringe. And NO ONE even brings them up! Food for thought, don’t you think? AND, WITH CLASS, HE DEFENDED HIM, AGAIN AT THE RISK OF LOSING VOTERS, UNTIL HE REALIZED THAT HE REALLY WAS “NOT” THE MAN HE THOUGHT HE WAS. HE DID NOT DENOUNCE HIM WHEN IT SUITED HIM. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN IT WOULD HAVE REALLY SERVED HIS PURPOSE. HE TOOK THE HEAT IN THE BEGINNING FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS A BASICALLY GOOD MAN “AND” FOR HIS CHURCH

Posted by: Linda | May 27, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Bill has a lot of nerve talking about people disrespecting his wife remember Monica? Disrespect is one word that shouldn’t pass his lips!

Posted by: Sally | May 27, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Poor Hillary and Bill. They were the overwhelming favorite to win this thing but they’ve been beaten by the underdog. It’s KILLING them. They can’t bear the burden of accepting blame for this so they have to come up with a reasonable excuse. Ah yes… SEXISM! It’s rampant! It’s everywhere! The media have it. The superdelegates have it. Obama’s people have it. Poor Hillary. But racism? Er… no that doesn’t exist. Only an elitist would suggest such a thing.
Meanwhile the people, the poor people, denied their voice in the process. They really want Hillary but the media won’t allow it. The evil media conspiracy silencing the voices of all those forgotten voters in Michigan and Florida. Er… except of course for those who wanted to vote for Obama in Michigan, but couldn’t. Maybe it’s alright if we keep them silent after all.
Nice try, Bill. Next time, tell us it’s an alien mind ray corrupting the media. Or that the mob is secretly blackmailing superdelegates to support Obama. It’s all very entertaining.

Posted by: Sean | May 27, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Does Bill really think “bullying” superdelegates by calling them sexist is going to change anyone’s mind? If anything, it gives them another reason to dislike the Clintons.

Posted by: Sean | May 27, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

It is funny to hear the Clintons and their supporters crying about sexism. If it was Obama talking about his race the Clintons and their supporters will also be crying about it. The Clintons tried to make the campaign about race and when it didnt work they are now using sexism. They are also try to position themselves for the next election in 2012 because she knows she has no chance of being a vice-presidential candidate.
They should get off Obama’s case because he was not the reason the Clintons lost or is losing, they are losing because of their arrogance. They never took Obama seriously in the beginning . They only have themselves to blame and should be kicking themsleves now. Bringing up JFK assisination is a code word for those who dont want to see a Blackman as president to act. It was not a slip of tongue nor was she tired. The Clinton dont do or say things politically without calculation and thinking of its effect.
The Clintons and their supporters are the ones doing all the griping yet watching television coverage you would think she is the one leading with all the coverage she is getting.

Posted by: ola | May 27, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I have no problem with Hillary remaining in the race. In some ways it is good for the party and the country. I only have a problem with supposed Democrats on either side tearing down the other candidate. The real enemy is the Republican party. It has to be defeated or it will be a disaster for the nation and the world.
I personally was pro-Kucinich because he was the only one with the guts and honesty to call for impeachment. Also I liked Edwards’ courageous stands against corporate influence. But between Hil and Obama I was divided… that is, until she and her campaign started using Republican talking points and dirty tactics.
I used to love Bill, but every day this keeps up, with the same negativism and attacks, changing the rules, anything to win, his legacy becomes more and more tarnished. Sad indeed! Still, if Hil wins, OF COURSE I will vote for her. Don’t be silly! All Barak supporters and Hillary supporters should make this clear. Anyone who claims they will vote for McCain
if the other one wins is like a kid who says he will take his ball and go home. And in doing so you do a great disservice to the campaign of your candidate.

Posted by: Al | May 27, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

I want a candidate who gets down to business, who is honest and who treats me, the voter who has to make the decision whom to put into office, with respect. The problems are too large and complex, there is great work to be done and must be done by all of us together. I want the candidate to be a person who can be held accountable and understood, not a married couple. I want the most intelligent person in the room, a caring person, with great integrity. Period.
For my part, I will do my homework, I will exercise discretion and talk to everyone I know and respect who can give me the facts. I will not escalate hysteria or controversy which only obscures the core of information needed to make a good decision. I will work for the campaign of my choice without disparaging others who feel they are doing the same. I will see clearly without blame or self-righteousness.
Personally, my choice is clear, my conscience is clear, and I will work hard, again, to help democracy work for my family and my children, for my community and for all of us. I haven’t always won – have rarely won. But, this work is still the most important thing.
That is all.

Posted by: Deb | May 27, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Hillary and Bill are the Bonnie and Clyde of American Politics. As with history and fate they will go down like Bonnie and Clyde. Instead of the Law it will be the Super Delegets that will take them down.
Bonnie and Clyde Clinton’s will go down in history as the criminal tag team that tried to steal the Democratic Party. It’s a shame they still don’t get it, there is a new sheriff in town his name is Barack Obama!

Posted by: Sisto Maximo | May 27, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Huckabee was way, way, way behind. Hillary isn’t. And Ted Kennedy stayed in the race until August despite his being way, way behind.
The longer Obama supporters scream for Hillary to drop out, the more Hillary voters the Democratic Party will lose in November.
If you’re so sure Obama is the winner, what are you afraid of? No one’s paying any attention to McCain, so that isn’t a valid reason.

Posted by: Fran | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Bill is right.
Notice how any time in the past that Obama beat Hillary by even 10 percentage points it was so sensationalized in the media about how Obama just completely buried Clinton in so-and-so state and how it’s so over, and oh my god, he’s so phenomenal, he’s so amazing
Yet how many times, just in the past few primaries alone has Hillary beaten him by more than 2 to 1, by 10,20,30 percentage points and it’s like “oh big deal”???
Why should it be any different?
Why is a victory for her somehow less substantial than a victory for him?
I can hear the Obama people already:
“well, because she only won because of racist white voters, so it doesn’t count”
Oh, but Obama winning a state like North Carolina which is predominantly racist BLACK voters voting for the BLACK candidate is somehow any different?
I think the only difference is that Hillary won in greater numbers.
She proved everyone wrong in Texas by beating him there despite being outspent 3 to 1.
If Obama had done that, god almighty, let’s just move him into the White House this second, but Hillary does it and it’s like “oh, well….anyways, let’s not talk about that”
It IS unfair, and it IS wrong, and that’s why so many voters feel like they wouldn’t vote for Obama in November, because it’s like he’s being forced upon us.

Posted by: Ike | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Bill is right.
Notice how any time in the past that Obama beat Hillary by even 10 percentage points it was so sensationalized in the media about how Obama just completely buried Clinton in so-and-so state and how it’s so over, and oh my god, he’s so phenomenal, he’s so amazing
Yet how many times, just in the past few primaries alone has Hillary beaten him by more than 2 to 1, by 10,20,30 percentage points and it’s like “oh big deal”???
Why should it be any different?
Why is a victory for her somehow less substantial than a victory for him?
I can hear the Obama people already:
“well, because she only won because of racist white voters, so it doesn’t count”
Oh, but Obama winning a state like North Carolina which is predominantly racist BLACK voters voting for the BLACK candidate is somehow any different?
I think the only difference is that Hillary won in greater numbers.
She proved everyone wrong in Texas by beating him there despite being outspent 3 to 1.
If Obama had done that, god almighty, let’s just move him into the White House this second, but Hillary does it and it’s like “oh, well….anyways, let’s not talk about that”
It IS unfair, and it IS wrong, and that’s why so many voters feel like they wouldn’t vote for Obama in November, because it’s like he’s being forced upon us.

Posted by: Ike | May 27, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

What president is not bidding for power? And, what president is perfect?
Ms. Clinton is as good a candidate any exceptional candidate in history. Only the Republicans would have you think otherwise.

Posted by: HG | May 27, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

If this primary election were a chess match, the player in HRC’s untenable position would have conceded weeks ago!

Posted by: Asparagus X | May 27, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I support Hillary 100%. I self identified in 1974 as a Democrat after turning 18. I will not vote for Obama if he is the Democratic nominee, even if Hillary asks us to unite behind him. He does not have the experience necessary to lead this great country of ours. I am also of the opinion that he is as much of a hate monger and racist as his former pastor (Wright). I also am a strong catholic and I have never relied on my faith alone in times of trouble.

Posted by: Sherrie | May 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

I voted in a caucus state Because there are caucus states, Hillary cannot claim to be ahead in the popular vote because that would disenfranchise my vote and the votes of those who bothered to go to the caucuses. I understand the argument against counting the popular votes in caucuses, but that is the very reason why popular vote cannot be looked at here. I would like to say that, even if my state were a primary state, Hillary would have lost by a large margin. Also, re MI and FL, there are plenty of Obama supporters who will not be counted if Hillary gets her way. She does not deserve all the votes out of FL and MI.

Posted by: Rozanne | May 27, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

The Clinton’s just don’t know when to stop. They continue with this stupid idea of convincing Democrats that Hillary’s really the best one for the job but they only assure folks that they are as evil and power greedy that everyone has said for years.
On the bright side, Hillary will hide out in the Senate forever, no one wants her for a leader.

Posted by: scott | May 27, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Referencing a famous quote from folksy former Democratic President Harry Truman, Clinton said: “I’m with Harry Truman on this. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
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“And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don’t want to play, keep your uniform off,” Bill Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd.
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Take your own and advice: Take off your uniform and get out of the kitchen…

Posted by: simplelogic | May 27, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

With all of these “conspiracies” swirling about her and her subsequent inability to rise above them, it doesn’t sound like Hillary would make a good commander-in-chief. Hillary seems to veer between being an over the top, toughy, to helpless sap. Doesn’t make for a good presidency.

Posted by: Madame Defarge | May 27, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

wow.. yeah they’re both crazy. it’s almost funny though. i cant help but to feel sorry for both of them.

Posted by: cbfg | May 27, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Posted by: Lyn | May 25, 2008 3:02:40 PM
Come on people! Someone knew that if Florida and Michigan voted early the rules would be broken and what the outcome will be.
You hear Obama has changed his stand and now says the votes should be counted? Why? Because when the DNC meets on May 31st they’ll probably announce some slanted political deal to give him votes he didn’t really get.
Nothing is an accident here, and the sexism in this race is appauling!
Hillary should stay in until the end of the race, just like all candidates have always done. If she were a man no one would be calling for her to quit.
Be patient, let each candidate have their chance.
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Yes Lyn, there would be calls for ‘him’ to quit. because the ‘sniper fire’ lies, the insinuatioms about Obama’s religion, the ‘white Americans’ comment,
the ‘shame on you’ rant, the flip-flopping on which count/statistic/method really matters to win this, the ‘assassination’ comment along with 100′s of other ridiculous, devisive and anti democratic statements, a classic one was promoting McCain as better than Obama, would still be just as disgusting coming from a mere males mouth…get a grip, it’s over for the clintons. Period.

Posted by: Bob Buck | May 27, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Posted by: simplelogic | May 27, 2008 2:59:58 PM
Referencing a famous quote from folksy former Democratic President Harry Truman, Clinton said: “I’m with Harry Truman on this. If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
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“And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don’t want to play, keep your uniform off,” Bill Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd.
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Take your own and advice: Take off your uniform and get out of the kitchen…
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Well said…

Posted by: Bob Buck | May 27, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Typical Clinton….Blame everyone else but themselves for their own troubles….How anyone can vote for either of these narcistic, self-centered, egotistical jackasses is beyond me….And those of you who believe Bill’s statements get real….the Clintons are playing with you….they always have. It is called politics….at least that is what the Clintons believe it to be. They don’t believe 90% of what comes out of their own mouths when campaigning so why should we especially given the fact that Bill is a proven and disgraced liar

Posted by: indy_voter | May 27, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Bill is absolutely right. The media are trying to make Hillary drop out, and they are brain washing us to think Obama is already the nominee, even though he doesn’t have enough delegates. I’m tired of it. Hillary has a right to take her case all the way to the convention.

Posted by: Karen | May 27, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

There is something bigger going on with the desperation shown by Hillary and Bill. Desperate is the best word to describe the MUST GET IN WHITE HOUSE actions the Clintons have used. It is so apparent in their pushing McCain over Obama, it is apparent in their changing the rules with each primary, and it is definitely apparent with the fake “picking on Hillary” act. I have come to believe something is making the Clintons so desperate that they will say or do anything regardless of how it lowers their self esteem because it is better to be ashamed of yourself than dead. Death is all I can figure is strong enough to make the Clintons act the way they are acting. Bill Clinton would not say the outrageous things he is saying because he is smart enough to know how the public would respond. He knows and yet he still is making a fool out of himself. The Clintons must owe a HUGE debt to throw all their years of politics down the drain in this despicable manner. All this rhetoric is not for the middle-aged white women but for whoever/whatever has the fear instilled in the Clintons.
Let it be known I am a middle aged white woman and I did not vote for Hillary. I can see BS when it is thrown. I am SHOCKED so many women my age can’t. I just have a hard time believing that my gender is that gullible. And to swear to vote McCain because Hillary wants you to is outrageous!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!

Posted by: Older White Woman | May 27, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I am a Hillary Supporter and I for one, appreciate what Bill did for our economy during his term. Hillary is strong to take the abuse you Obama supporters throw at her. If you would take the time to read Robert Kennedy’s words concerning the remark re. his fathers death instead of Obama’s campaigns screams that Hillary is predicting Obama’s assasination you might understand. Dean and the DNC bigwhigs with the help of the Socialist Parties, both in America and Europe, working in our major cities have done much to promote Obama. Obama and Michelle’s words and blunders are quickly swept under the rug but the press is quick to twist every word Hillary or Bill says. Meet the press this past Sunday was a good example. Hillary is determined that every state have a vote in this Primary. If the DNC doesn’t wantthe campaign to go on until the last date, why did they set it so far away? Also, why did the DNC give permission to three states to hold their primaries earlier and Penalize Florida and Michigan, states where Hillary was expected to do well (and she did). Why did Obama hire attorneys to make sure their votes wouldn’t be counted? Why does he want to split these votes 50-50 when he didn’t earn them. Why did Obama’s campaign begin to bring in so much money after the DNC allowed the Party of European Socialists to open their offices in the major US cities just two months after Obama entered the campaign? These offices were supposedly to help the PES to recruit more members which they did under the guise of the Democratic Party because the Democratic Socialists of America,a group that Dean considers progressive democrats has had both Dean and Obama and the President of the AFL-CIO actively involved. Obama has unlimited funds from his Chicago underworld connections including his billionair national finance campaign chairperson, Penny Pritzker. Before you start pinning wings on Senator Obama I suggest you just skim through his past. It is all outthere and he is still on the list at Rezko’s trial for possible criminal transactions. He and Michelle are products of Mayor Daly in Chicago and the beliefs of the Trinity Church. They both learned well. This is why Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama, not because of his race, but for who he is.

Posted by: marie willard | May 27, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Bill is factually wrong. Plenty of people were a whole lot nastier when trying to push Ralph Nader out of the race.

Posted by: historian | May 27, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Bill,
How will the electoral college results look if Hill steals the nomination through the supers? All of the numbers in these polls will change dramatically if she is handed the nomination. The African-American vote will be non-existent for up to a decade) and many others will be disenfranchised enough to not turn out to vote. Most people are not considering this fact when offering comparisons of Obama or Clinton vs. McCain.

Posted by: the dude | May 27, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Let the woman run. The Democratic party has ALWAYS supported the electoral process and the right to run for office, as well as the need to count votes. I am ashamed of those who are behaving so badly towards the Clintons. This isn’t reflective of the Democratic party I’ve been a member of for all my life.
And, by the way, I’m not a Hillary fan or supporter. Not even close. And how sad that I must continually add that disclosure at the end of any statement I have in defense of her right to run.
With all the insults, derision and demonization of anyone who merely defends her right to run for office, perhaps this ‘new’ 2008 version of the Democratic party doesn’t care for my vote. Nader is looking better all the time. Good luck in the fall. You’ll need it when the Hillary supporters lack the motivation to go vote.

Posted by: ZhenRen | May 27, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Why is Hillary still running? Because 17 million voters asked her to. I continue to support her bid including financially. She is the best candidate running and I intend to support her to the end (The Convention).
I will never vote for Obama, so my only Democratic choice is Hillary. People will call me racist, I call them sexist.
This is American and I can vote for whom ever I want. Just because I don’t think Obama is qualified for president and will take my vote elsewhere does not make me racist. Just makes me smart!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dennis Smith | May 27, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

I am from Michigan. I did vote in the primary election, and voted Uncommitted as my candidate did not appear on the ballot. It was beat into us that the election would not count, but for me, I was making a statement — a statement AGAINST Hillary, as much as I was making a show of support for my candidate not on the ballot. Many friends & family didn’t bother to vote, being told it was meaningless. Now Hillary says she is fighting for MY voice? I think not. Giving her credit for winning an election where Obama didn’t appear on the ballot and where she AGREED not to compete and AGREED that the outcome would not count is a slap in the face to all of us who DIDN’T vote for Hillary. The dirty campaign she has waged has turned me from neutral to totally despising the Clintons.

Posted by: K Smith | May 27, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

How sad. Bill Clinton is toast when he could be doing great work via his Foundation.

Posted by: 247dem | May 27, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Its sickening to see all the comments from the Hardcore hillary supporters. Just as they have worked their hearts and souls out and believed in their candidate, Obama supporters have as well.
The only difference is Barack Obama started winning landslide victories while Hillary Clinton had no post February 5th strategy. She only just started winning states after Obama fair and square pulled ahead.
What do they expect the democratic party and Obama supporters to do? Sit down and play doggy for the Clintons? Obama is winning fair and square!
How would they feel if the situation switched… Clinton with a wide delegate lead, both tied on the popular vote and Obama supporters threatening to go against the party!

Posted by: John Kyriacou | May 27, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

We are all Democrats who love our country and want to heal our wounds and defeat the Republicans in the House and Senate, as well as to win the Presidency.
I am not a Senator Obama supporter (my first choice for President having dropped out), and I think Hillary has run a strong campaign and does not need to drop out until the vote on the Convention floor. However, no matter how this plays out, I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee because our country cannot stand four more years of self-destructive Republican wars, ruling for the rich and Supreme Court appointments which will utimately overturn Row vs. Wade and take away a woman’s right to choose.

Posted by: Mike | May 27, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Hillary supporters by the millions have also poured their hearts and money into her reaching so far. Yes she has had to loan to her campaign. But her victory in Virginia and Kentucky has shown her resilience. She may not win the nomination. But the democratic party needs both Obama and Hillary together on one ticket to defeat McCain. Believe me neither Hillary nor Obama alone can win against McCain. The all too powerful lobby that support the Republican machine will once again spend millions and even cheat to put McCain in. However there is a slim chance that with the united forces of Hillary and Obama they can overcome the obstacles and get into the White House by a slim margin. But we need to put pressure on both hillary and Obama. If Obama wins then Hillary should be the V.P and if by some miracle Hillary wins then Obama should be the V.P On to victory.
I also strongly believe that Florida and Michigan must be counted but the only right solution is to have revotes or new primaries where voters return to the polling booths to show their true preference either for Obama or Hillary. First of all the rule was silly to start with. Then no one campaigned in those states. And Obama for whatever reason took his name off the ballot in Michigan. Anyways just what was DNC smoking to have made the stupid mistake ? There is no way Florida and Michigan can be excluded. That is like committing a suicide. Those voters are too important to exclude. But just splitting or allocating votes is not the right solution. Why should Obama or Hillary be afraid to face the voters the right way in those states ? But any revotes must be done quickly. If it is done by mail proper procedures must be in place so that there is no cheating or problems.
Ideally it would be better to let the voters go to the polling booths to recast their votes with both Obama and Hillary’s names on the ballots.
Ultimately whatever happens the end result should be a dream ticket. It will be a huge mistake for either Obama or Hillary running against McCain. Bush and the republicans may be at their lowest ratings but that does not mean that McCain and the Republican machine cannot win.
If the democrats are smart and if important democratic politicians are smart they will pressure for a dream ticket.
I do not think that the differences that are present right now while the campaign is still on will cause any problems once the nominee is decided and once the dream team is formed and once the real campaigning starts against McCain. And by dream team I mean either Obama-Hillary or Hillary-Obama.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 27, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

I have admired President Carter for many years. However his recent every other day talking about Hillary to drop out soon is getting me turned off and I am getting somewhat upset with him.

Posted by: nazirmo | May 27, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Sad. That’s all… just sad.

Posted by: Indie | May 27, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Why is it when men lose they don’t whine-women we most always do(if we lose)-That’s why I don’t understand Bill-Maybe Hillary demanded to him that he whine to us.

Posted by: LOWES4321 | May 27, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

If Barack had won Florida and Michigan…Hillary would not be fighting to get the votes counted. She was ok with the decision not to seat the delegates until she realized she really really needs their votes.

Posted by: Justme | May 27, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Let there be no doubt to those who think that President Bill Clinton will be less loved or that he will have lesser speaking engagements. Bill will always have his millions of admirers around the world.Some people have it in their stars ( astro )

Posted by: nazirmo | May 27, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Al H – the reason Obama’s name was not on the Michigan ticket is because he withdrew his name – whatever that means

Posted by: nazirmo | May 27, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Bill, are you serious? You got to be kidding. The only reason the superdelegates haven’t stepped in is because for some reason they still have a little respect for Hillary. She has run a terrible campaign and because of her tactics, and the low down dirty things she tried to do, it didn’t work. Obama has played the high road throughout and the people want change. No more clintons or BUsh’s. We need a change and you and your family represent old time politics. As a matter of fact, the whole democratic process has given HRC the benfit of the doubt, and besides, Bill, you just need to chill out and decide where you and Hillary want to spend the rest of your life. You both have made the process a sham and you both have disrespected party leaders, fellow senators and the american people who voted for you. Just go home and take your wife with you and play golf or something

Posted by: dave | May 27, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

What I don’t understand if a high % of weman are voting for Hillary because she is a women isn’t that sexism? After all we have been through with Bush an his anti-American regime why would any sane person vote for McCain? I believe that if you vote for McCain you should just say you hate this country an stop telling people you love America. You can tell the people who are either ignorant, or just hate this country because they will vote for Hillary or McCain just because they are either Republican, a woman, or white. My God, what about America an our future!

Posted by: Julien | May 27, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

MIDDLE AGE CRAZY, you might say!
The Clintons are living in Dreamland USA. In the past, when backed to the corner, they cried “vast right wing controversy” and Democrats rallied for the sake of solidarity to save the Clinton Presidency. They got of easy, with no lesson learned. After running a poor (and very negative campaign) in which they experimented with every conceivable dirty trick of the old politics–kitchen sink, gender, race, media, sympathy, whining, red phone, Bosnia fire, working class vs. the rest, cards and more–now it is the vast “Democratic delegates conspiracy.” Hillary is still shouting in our ears that without her, the world cannot –never–be saved. We know better! Lacking any sense of personal responsibility, the Clintons never blame themselves–their reckless behavior, self-sabotage, lack of ethics and principle, selfish individuality, and more–all of which constrained many women feminists to conclude–”not this women.” Surely, in the future, a woman better qualified and with all the requisite positive qualities will emerge to claim the Presidency with all of our support!!! Not this woman! Therefore, the sooner she is put out of her misery the better for the Democratic Party!

Posted by: Dr. Sam | May 27, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

And I never seen a candidate so spiteful towards her own. How can a party recover after so much garabage is been thrown. I wanted to vote for Hillary in hopes that she wanted better for this country hell I brought her book and kept in a respectful place. Now I question my judgement and I resent that. I want better for my country …I was waiting for that message to come out the mouth of hillary’s husband…No one has no respect for her because of his actions and she is paying the cost but Hillary is responsible for her actions after that event and I am not pleased and so are members of my family who are now preparing to vote. I hope she stops this tough woman action and focus on healing a nation

Posted by: I can only imagine | May 27, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

I wonder if people really understand the democratic process for the nomination. Both Hillary and Obama agreet not to participate in Michigans or Florida’s primaries. So, Hillary like she has always done changed the game when it suits her needs to set in the white as Queen liar. What a trickster, she will do anything to be president. I don’t want anyone in that office that thinks like that, just look at Bush! I use to be a lover of the Clintons, but I don’t want to see there faces again!

Posted by: Julien | May 27, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Hillary did not respect the rules of the DNC when she left her name on the ballot in Michigan and Florida. Neither the Democratic party nor the Republican party are part of the government. They can make their own rules. She did not win either state. How can you beat someone that did not run? In Michigan, 48% of the voters voted undecided rather than vote for her. That says a lot. Get it together people. Hillary didn’t win, Obama didn’t campaign because he is part of the Democratic party. He played by the rules of his party. If Hillary gets into office, she will be playing by her own rules. The people will not matter. Just like they don’t matter when they don’t vote for her. She only cares about the important states…. meaning the states that vote for her. No one is talking about the 78 districts in NY, many of them with a large African-American population, that didn’t record one vote for Obama. Even if there were no African-Americans, not one White, Chinese, Hispanic, leftist, woman or democrat in 78 districts thought he was worthy of a vote? This stinks of cheating.

Posted by: Ajay | May 27, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Obama solved more world issues than all previous presidents combined. Why even have an election? This is all just a bad joke.

Posted by: hhkeller | May 27, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Seriously, I wrote off the Clintons when they abandoned their cat Socks to Bettie Currie. Low-lifes.

Posted by: anniek | May 27, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

This is plain ridiculous.
Superdelegates who have complained about being harrassed have pointed the finger at the Clinton camp.
I actually remember a MI superdelegate on tv wondering why the Obama camp hadn’t even contacted her (controversy state).

Posted by: Bertha | May 28, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Hillary deserves the same respect her husband has given her for years. She doesn’t seem to mind, she stuck with him.
Now the Clintons have to get back into the White House, they have large political debts to pay. They have already cashed the checks, now they have to provide the services they promised. They are so desperate, they even made their daughter work the primaries! Obviously they are scared to death, they have no choice, they have to get back in the WH, they have to or else….

Posted by: truthbetold | May 28, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Clinton has run a miserable campaign, and it’s come back to haunt her. Bill Clinton has been no help. If her campaign is any indication of the way she would run the country, forget it.
She had her chance, and she blew it big time. WJC’s comments and her whining are only rancid frosting on a stale cake. They’re a day late and a dollar short. I originally supported Clinton – until SC, that is and WJC’s stupid and intemperate remarks. And then her negativity and the “3:00 am” nonsense (a real Republican move, if you ask me). Clinton has turned into a nasty, stubborn, pitiful fool.
Go Obama.

Posted by: hellgate | May 28, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am

Didn’t Hillary say “If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen”? Bill also said something to the effect that a person shouldn’t run for office if they couldn’t take the punches. So now he wants to complain?
Well, let me say this about that. HRC wants to be the first female POTUS, and she stands up for women’s rights. Yet and still, she has Bill Clinton in there trying to referee the situation. Now, if she is so qualified and has the “experience” to be POTUS, why is it necessary for Bill Clinton to run interference for her? Would he continue to do this were she (shudder) to be elected POTUS?

Posted by: Cora | May 28, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am

I really think Bill Clinton should be the last person on Earth talking about disrespecting Hillary. Does anybody remember the 90′s and the, uh “drama”.

Posted by: HisDudeness | May 28, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

Bill needs to stop whining about Hillary’s treatment by the media, etc. and face the fact that a majority of Democrats really don’t like her and don’t want 4 or 8 years of her screaming rants as president. All of her speeches are so contrived and really just lip service to get elected. Hillary is so dishonest, self-centered and egomaniac and this is exactly how she comes off in all public appearances. She and Bill will do or say anything to get back in to the White House.
Bill was popular as President because people really liked and identified with him as a person and what he offered at the time. He was fresh and new in 1992 and offered a appealing option to Bush 41. Unfortunately, the Clinton Presidency legacy is bringing them down now. They have always manipulated circumstances and changed the rules to suit them and it just isn’t working anymore. Morally, our country went to hades in a handbasket while Bill was in office, primarily due to his character and resultant actions and indescretions. Conversely, Obama is well-liked by most of the public and appears to be more sincere than Hillary, and he offers new ideas, optimism, etc. instead of a recycled Clinton presidency. He has taken the high road and focused on the issues and what really appeals to people instead of getting dragged down to the Clinton’s level.
Now in desperation, instead of giving in and getting behind Obama, they (Bill and Hillary) are attempting to change the rules of the DNC (move the goal line of required delegate votes, declare themselves winners of the popular vote, etc.) to allow their own selfish motives to be realized. Bill and Hillary have been beaten like a drum at their own game and just can’t accept this. It’s been quite amusing to see David Axelrod, et al. taking the Clintons and their operatives to the proverbial cleaners.
In conclusion, with his racial remarks and attempts to alter public perception, Bill has tarnished whatever legacy he may have established as President. He basically has cost his wife the chance to become President due to his character flaws and attempts to woo the voters through negativity. It will be painful for Bill and Hillary, years from now when history finally weighs in on this election and primary season and summarizes it for what it really was. Bill trying to validate his presidency with his cheap shots at Obama at the expense of Hillary losing the nomination.
Why can’t they see this. Rudy Guiliani, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich and others have dropped out without trying to change the rules accepting reality after defeat. If Hillary had just kept Bill out of her business, worked hard at repackaging herself as a real wife, mother and leader and presented herself to the public as genuine instead of manipulative, she would have had a far better chance of succeeding.

Posted by: jk | May 28, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

It’s about time the democratic party admitted that superdelegates are anything but democratic. What happen to one person/ one vote. Let this go to the convention. I want to hear Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. I want to hear their positions, let them debate, let the delegates vote and then we could support the winner. Enough of this superdelegate stuff!!!! I can’t vote for a party that doesn’t respect the votes of its members.

Posted by: Kris | May 28, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

That is correct – we do NOT have ANy respect to Any clinton.
This is as minimum.
In fact – voting Primary we should prevent America from clintons . FOREVER.
We are almost done.
Yes, we can.

Posted by: Linda,Fl | May 28, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I’m surprised CNN even announced that Clinton disrespected bit…I have been listening to CNN and the media disrespect her for so long I could vomit. They’ve had her lost and..the dinner party guest that won’t leave…and more for months. If she loses, it was all thanks to the biased media.

Posted by: Debbie | May 28, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

DO YOU THINK OBAMA NEVER LIED IN A NUMBER OF WAYS? Have you forgotten so fast? Geez, this stupid idiot just lied recently on his ghost uncle during WWII just to relay the heroic tales of his relatives and not his because he has nothing to brag about. Just a starter senator and he already has countless serious issues.

Posted by: neil1785 | May 28, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Hillary Clinton has more experience than Obama. The superdelegates are going against the popular vote which is Hillary. If Clinton doesn’t win the presidential office everyone who voted for Obama will be to blame. The economy is weak. Clinton is the only candidate with the expertise to do something positive about it. What better advisor than her own husband whom was a great president. All these superdelegates are envious of her and would rather vote for Obama whom wasn’t even known before this presidential elections.

Posted by: viclop | May 28, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

neil1785, you stink of racism and anger (as much as Rev Wright).
One of the biggest benefits of electing Obama will be to put you and your clan brothers in their place.
Try informing yourself beyond mere soundbites and facts picked from a selective fear-based propaganda.

Posted by: HisDudeness | May 28, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Jo Michaels – Very good post – but, I disagree with your statement that every Obama supporter would be supporting Hillary if he was not in the race. Simply not true. I, and most of the people I have discussed this with, would not support Hillary….period. I was supporting Edwards for a while simply because I can’t stand Clinton. Sorry, I disagree also with the notion that the Clintons have been so great to the people over the years. In my opinion, the people they support best are themselves. I don’t mean to sound so negative, but, it is how I feel. I have said before that voting for Clinton was the biggest mistake I ever made as a Democrat and I see Hillary as just the flip side of the same counterfeit coin.

Posted by: Joy | May 28, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Bill C.& HRC was a disgrace to the White House. More than anyone else that has held that office.Why would America evan want them near it again?

Posted by: Paul | June 3, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

The most disrespectful act of all time to Hillary came from Bill Clinton himself and his DNA found on someone elses dress. If I was Hillary I would be much more offended with an evening at the White House consisting of pizza and the “fellowship” of the not-so-hot midwestern looking Lewinsky being enough to satisfy his presidential urges than anything during the DNC race. Bills acts clearly represented the definition of disrespect of Hillary in my book.
Does anyone else get this vibe of bare feet livin, moonshine lovin, shady swamp land deals as being part of the hootenany customs of the Clintons? I just dont get that feeling from watching too many other government officials. Who knows what else took place in the White House during the Clinton term behind closed doors that didnt “leak” out.

Posted by: Mpup | June 3, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

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