Bill Clinton on Gas Taxes: He Raised ‘Em in ’93, then Opposed a “Vacation” in 2000

Clinton Hypocracy rears its ugly head! What a surprise!
They’ll say anything to get the nomination!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Who cares what Bill Clinton did when he was president. Hillary is the one up for election. Hilliary is gonna win it all so the media can stop portraying her as the devils spawn. I have been disgusted by the media especially ABC News for all of the biased opionions. To me thats not journalism.

@ kito11
@ Lookup
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Maybe you failed to read the part that says, “it is interesting to once again compare the record of the administration from which Sen. Clinton claims her experience with her proposals today.”

Gasoline was quite reasonable before the Democrats took over both houses of congress.
Say no to Nancy, Dean, Teddy, Soros and the other left-wingers who continually block the economic supply side of the equation. Moderates, come home!

Let’s see…
As an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama supported an elimination of the fuel tax.
Now, as a U.S. Senator roaming the country in search of another job, Barack Obama has flip-flopped and does not support even a temporary elimination of the fuel tax.
Typical…

@ jayhawk & tony
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He supported it until it was implemented and discoverd to be ineffective. Meaning he supported it until it was proven that IT DOESN’T WORK!!!

Senator Obama is blasting the gas tax relief proposal. How asinine on Obama’s part. He is out of touch with ordinary people and their problems. Honest families do not have a Tony Rezko helping them out with tainted money. Senator Obama is a sleaze and is getting more so evey day. A vote for him is a vote for Marxism and corruption. And he will say or do anything to get elected.

Tapper reports on what Bill did b/c Hillary is running off Bill Clinton administration…
This is exactly what the Obama camp is stating
Hillary takes pride in the positive outcomes of her husband administration BUT never the negative outcomes ex. NAFTA
If Hillary wants to use Bill Clinton years in office as her “commander and chief test” then she must accept the failures of the administration
Since she played such a “huge” role in the administration, I’m guessing she’s also to blame for the rise in gas prices

What is Obama’s energy plan?

Pound your chest and proclaim your love for the working poor all you want, but YOU can explain to them after this shakes out why, at best, some of them saved $30 over the whole summer, and at worst (and most likely) actually spent MORE on gas over the tax holiday.
YOU can then explain to them how their gas prices then skyrocketed even further, as the gas companies did the obvious thing and raised prices to recoup their windfall profits tax.
YOU can then explain to your children, and theirs, when they’re shipped off to the 20 year old conflict in the middle east under a draft why you thought potentially saving $30 bucks was worth electing a candidate who was so eager to go to war with yet another middle eastern country that she threatened them with obliteration, pre-emptively, before she’d even secured her parties nomination.
You can explain to them how her scandal ridden presidency rode out a 6 year lame duck status due to the legal wranglings and tabloid scandals generated by her unethical lethario of a First Husband.
Go ahead, vote for the gas tax, vote against your best interests economically, militarily, and morally. You can tell my kids someday why you personally destroyed their future.

geevil writes:
“What was the price of gas then? What is the price of gas now? Right before the 2004 election gas prices were closer to $1 than $2 a gallon.”
Those were way different times: there wasn’t a war going on which has wrecked the economy, the price of gas and groceries hadn’t just DOUBLED over a few months.
How many MILLIONs of Americans are trying to survive on casual labor or on SSI income of less than a thousand dollars a month?
The Democrats should have stuck with John Edwards, instead of moving heaven and earth to freeze him out in favor of the DLC birthday suits.
What’s the “news” apt to be this winter? Old folks freezing in tenements like Rezko’s, that’s what. And young folks, black AND white and brown, trying to make a revolution from scratch.
These stupid “Democrats” had better get themselves to Denver and nominate Edwards. And forget about Obama, the guy with no better sense than to go on the ice in dress shoes. Sheesh.
I’m surprised to find that I FERVENTLY hope this fraud loses North Carolina.

DCV – has a good point. Someone needs to stand up for them common folks against the pointy headed elites, with their high foreheads, slide rulers and fancy kollege degrees.
We don’t need of them rascals, especially the so called experts. Experts are the worst of whole mess of them.
Everybody knows them gas taxes are WAY TOO HIGH. Hillary is right! Gastaxofascism is what it is. And its the Man that is sticking it to us and holding us down.
Keep on fighting!!! End Gastaxofascism NOW!

“Pound your chest and proclaim …”
Lay back and do nothing?
People are getting killed by the gas prices and you want to surrender to the oil companies?
Not on Hillary’s watch.

Tony-
If you watched Obama on Meet the Press yesterday, you would see him admit that supporting the gas tax holiday in Illinois was a mistake. He fell for it, much like Clinton is now, and in the end the state lost funds for its highways, and the oil companies failed to pass the savings onto the consumers.
Obama has learned from his mistakes. The Gas Tax Holiday did not work in Illinois, and it would not work throughout the country. That’s not a negative – it’s a positive.
Keep trying though.

RE: GAS TAX HOLIDAY & Other DELUSIONS
“HILLARY’S DANGEROUS DELUSIONS,” inspired by a May 2, 2008 article in Huffing ton Post about “Hillary’s Psychic Reality”
Evaluate one or two of Hillary’s whoppers and ask yourself what it means about her if she really believes any of her stories are true or personas are real. For instance, does she really believe that she is an Annie Oakley, gun-toting working class white girl from the rural hinterlands? Does she really believe that her illusory gas tax holiday can be a reality even though it would require the Congress and President to pass it in about 2 weeks upon HER recommendation…or …that there can be a moratorium imposed on all foreclosures without causing bank failures and a millennium depression…does she really believe that she knows better than all economist and that the US will just brightly “Obliterate” Iran.
Aren’t these dangerous delusions just like Bush’s delusions about Iraq… is it the fact that they share delusional psychic realities the real reason she so readily believed Bush’s delusions about Iraq as she is also dangerously delusional. Recall her strange cackles or the weird “shame on you Barack Obama” NAFTA outburst that was only justifiable in Hillary’s reframed reality.
Isn’t it delusional to believe that she is the Democratic Party’s only hope in the Fall because the Republicans will give her the same free pass on her lack of honesty, character, integrity or honor and (apparently) sanity, which Obama has given her? Do you believe it? If so, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

EIGHTEEN CENTS!!!
people are getting killed by EIGHTEEN CENTS????
It’s like five percent off the price of the cheapest most leaded gas on the market. At the higher prices, it’s much less than that!
Assuming they can get this Bill voted on by summer, which they cant…
Assuming they can get it passed by Congress, which they cant…
Assuming gas prices don’t simply rise almost instantly, which they will…
Assuming the gas companies won’t raise prices to recoup Hillary’s windfall profits tax, which they will…
You’re still talking about saving 5% or less over the summer on your gas!!!
What kind of elitist are you to beleive that EIGHTEEN CENTS is releif from anything??
You really think $30 over the summer is going to mean anything to anyone?
People are losing their houses, cars, and other property because they can’t make payments, they’re scraping by to buy groceries, they’re going uninsured and can’t find work, and you want to slip them a metaphorical check for $30 that’s only going to bounce!!!
Fraud, rampant and disgusting fraud!
Stick that in your tank and burn it!

Truckers and low income families are suffering severe economic distress. What Mr. Clinton did in the past has no bearing on today. History can judge how well he did his job. For now, tax relief could be implemented on short notice, and it might even help some poor families. Tax relief of any kind is usually good for the poor. Wealthy oil companies and the very rich will not be affected either way.

Yadda yadda…I guess that’s why he signed Cheney’s energy bill…Besides BILL CLINTON did this. Not Hillary Clinton. You guys are so moronic.
“SEN. OBAMA: Yeah, I learned from a mistake. And, in addition, what happens is, is that this would come out of the Federal Highway Fund that we use to rebuild our roads and our bridges. And if we don’t have that fund, then we’re looking at thousands of jobs being lost in Indiana and in North Carolina.”

Yes, Obama did support a gas tax holiday before. It didn’t work, so now he knows better.
That’s called EXPERIENCE.
Supporting it in spite of it’s destined failure is NAIVE on the part of Hillary.
But that narrative doesn’t jive with the media narrative, so they don’t choose to cover it like that.

You guys really think this man is Jesus. Maybe that’s why Rev. Wright went after him — he knows he’s a dirty liar. Yawn.
“On the Joe Morning Show, Obama admitted to once supporting a gas tax holiday but said he regrets it b/c instead of adding relief to consumers…the oil companies profited”

Since John McCain or Hillary will not be President this summer, how will they be able to Implement a Gas-Tax Holiday into FACT.. they can’t! It is a gimmick that they cannot produce on… That is so sad, and another example of Politicians trying to fool people for a vote on an idea or Gift they can’t deliver on or produce. It’s basically dishonest and a lie! Barack will not make a Phony Promise to the American people! We have been “sniper-fired” before!
Media is also disingenuous and complicit in this gas-tax holiday lie and myth! First because they know a President would have to sign off on this and, second because they fail to enquire of Hillary or John, just how they plan to sign this into Law when they in fact will not be President this summer! So,once again the Republican-controlled media fail the people by NOT pointing out the obvious! Failed us as they did with Iraq.
As for the obliteration of Iran remark, we should recall what Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill wrote in position 8 after World War II in The Atlantic Charter, both who knew and were familiar with the horrors of war….
Position “Eighth, they believe that all of the nations of the world, for realistic as well as spiritual reasons must come to the abandonment of the use of force. Since no future peace can be maintained if land, sea or air armaments continue to be employed by nations which threaten, or may threaten, aggression outside of their frontiers, they believe, pending the establishment of a wider and permanent system of general security, that the disarmament of such nations is essential. They will likewise aid and encourage all other practicable measures which will lighten for peace-loving peoples the crushing burden of armaments.”
Frankllin D. Roosevelt
Winston S. Churchill
Less we forget!

TexasDemocrat -
Hillary’s bill will provide no definite tax relief to anyone but the oil companies, and will not help Truckers, whose Diesel-Fuel is already tax-free. However, it will cost thousands of jobs held by workers in states like Indiana, and will severely deplete our highway fund and will continue the decay of our infrastructure.
It’s not a solution, its a political gimmick. It will help no one but Hillary get elected. The funny thing is it’s not working. According to the latest CBS/NYT poll, 71% of Americans know that it’s just a political ploy.
Whoops.

Tony-
I’m the one that posted that Obama admitted he made a mistake. That’s a GREAT thing. If we can’t learn from our mistakes, we can’t learn at all.
The real question is, if this has been proven to NOT work, why is Hillary still proposing it?
Oh yea, I forgot. Her own advisors already told us.
It polls well.

Is anyone surprised by this?

Tony -
How does our pointing out Hillary’s lies make us sound like we’re saying Obama is Jesus?
We’re not even saying anything special about Obama, we’re merely pointing out the obvious slimeball pander tactic that Hillary has played here.
She’s litterally writing a bounced check to the hardest pressed Americans. I hope she doesn’t get the nomination, because when the checks bounce, she’ll have a devil of a time getting their votes again come November.

Lookup
I’ll always remember Harkin smiling and applauding behind Howard Dean when Dean went on his famous rage.
I’ve disliked him ever since. He acted like a complete and highly challenged moron.

You for got contest won
Obama:31 Clinton:15

fontapa writes:
“People are losing their houses, cars, and other property because they can’t make payments”
And here’s a news flash for you: millions of people, including a whole lot of young people and children, have no property TO lose — and of those, many are depending on SOMEbody who drives a car to some kind of crap job so that they can keep EATING.
So what do we hear from idol Obama? A lot of hand-wringing about mortgages. Nothing about the zillion people for whom HAVING a mortgage TO lose would be a good thing.
The poor don’t disappear just because the Democrats don’t permit their being mentioned, and the media corporations don’t see fit to put them on the “news”.
Clinton, God bless her, at least is TRYING to channel John Edwards!
Nominating Edwards would still be the best bet for the Democrats — it’s reasonable to suppose that elderly war-nut McCain will suffer some timely incapacity following which the Republicans will nominate a candidate best-suited to trounce the Democratic nominee. Only if that nominee is Edwards, is there going to be a Democrat who can prevail.
Aside from the general creepiness of his actual biography, candidate Obama can’t speak on his feet. If he were the nominee, the Dems would lose to the Republicans. Fine for post-partisan apparatchiks, but not so good for the poor.

Belle Star -
John Edwards is an incredibly smart man with business acumen and a true understanding of class struggle and the long-term costs lower and middle income Americans have paid for constantly voting their short-term interests.
He would NEVER in a million years have endorsed this absurd plan. He’d have seen it for the fraudulent bounced check that it is. He’d have seen how it is designed to HURT low income households in the long run, and would have sacrificed the potential votes he’d have gained and done the right thing, like Obama has.
Don’t pretend to speak for Mr. Edwards, you Republican poser. He’d be outraged at your claims.

fontapa
Edwards is an ambulance chaser.

“Either NOTHING counts from her experience as Bill’s wife, or ALL of it counts. You can’t have it both ways…”
Either Obama IS a Muslim because he studied in Muslim schools when young or he is a Christian because he says so now. You can’t have it both ways? Or can you?
Obama voted for a gas tax relief bill three times when it was politically convenient but is now against it? You can’t have it both ways? Or can you?
Obama claimed Wright was his ‘spiritual mentor’ when it helped him win the Senate race but disowned him in this campaign only when it was too inconvenient not to? You can’t have it both ways? Or can you?
The list is long and so are our memories. We all learn from experience. The relief is just the first move, skinny on the promise with more to come.
Now do you want to play cutting heads or discuss problems of national importance? When the votes are counted in November, you can only have it one way, and some of us Democrats believe it would be better to win the White House over making a statement about what reformed goodniks we all are.
Unless the Supreme Court intervenes again at which case we all quit and go home… again.

John -Democrat writes:
“Obama is an scripted candidate with a gifted oratorical skills; but I should say reading oratorical skills because he is unable to debate or connect one on one with people.”
One thing I’ve noticed in the last couple of days is that at least one of the news networks has taken to showing footage of a really OLD Obama rally.
Obama’s good-looking, and baby-faced and telegenic. I don’t think he really IS much of an orator — unless you count repeating hypnotic phrases to a crowd that’s all het up to see a celebrity — an imitation of “charisma”.
Fortunately, he lost a lot of that in the Wright matter — giving that ponderous speech in Philadelphia, then going back on all his fancy feelings — which has exposed him permanently as just the same old same old.

fontapa writes:
“how it is designed to HURT low income households in the long run … Don’t pretend to speak for Mr. Edwards, you Republican poser. He’d be outraged at your claims.”
I said NOTHING about Edwards and the gas-tax matter, and somehow I doubt you’d have a shadow of an idea WHAT might outrage Edwards.
What you don’t understand about poor people is that there isn’t a “long run”, just a continuing crisis.
When it comes to Republicans posing as Democrats, I’d worry more on that score about Obama’s longtime associates from the Weathermen.

indy_voter writes:
“Belle Starr, I agree Edwards would have made a better nominee.”
And that’s still a possibility. The more states vote for Clinton, the MORE it’s still a possibility: the Kerry wing is so closet-Republican, not to mention male chauvinist, that I believe they might do ANYthing rather than have Clinton become president.
Obama’s just another pretty face with the mob behind him. Who needs it? Speaking on his feet, Bill Clinton — like him or not — is a lot more adorable in action. This has nothing to do with “race” — it’s charisma, the real deal.

Mona, please don’t be fooled. You’re not going to see a penny extra. Hillary just wants your vote. Please do the research, it’s not going to happen no matter what she tells you.