Carter: After June 3 “It Will Be Time For Her to Give It Up”

Not achieve anything by staying in?
She already has achieved a lot, Mr. Carter. She’s achieved not allowing BIG MEDIA to push her out of a race because they think it’s over. She’s achieved getting all voters in the United States to feel like they’re vote counts and that it should count.
She’s achieved earning my complete admiration and respect. She is an inspiration, and my hero, something I couldn’t say if she had dropped out when they were calling for her to do so back in JANUARY.

Hillary will be in nomination on first ballot in Denver. The SD’s can make their choice, but choosing Obama will bring the Democratic Party to certain defeat.
Carter knows all about doing that.
Hillary ’08

I don’t think that actually Hillary, despite what her or her supporters claim, really has much democratic legitimacy to gain in the race. The popular vote count is not actually a strong argument given that states have all been playing by different rules (at the very least primaries versus caucuses). The popular vote count, like it or not, counts for nothing in either deciding who the parties nominee is or indeed eventually in deciding who the President is.
As for Florida and Michigan, well its possible to say in Florida that it was an ok election, given all the names were still on the ballot. But even still anyone who voted must have been aware that they were not electing delegates, which starts to subvert the result astraight away. And in Michigan Obama’s and Edwards’ name weren’t even on the ballot, and I remember several vox pops type people saying ‘well I was so excited that I just wanted to vote, and she was the only name on the ballot I wanted to vote for.’ or similar. So Michigan is just a joke as an election. If that is what Clinton is holding onto then she would have no legitimacy as a candidate.

What people seem to be forgetting when HRC says she is ahead on votes, that the caucus states are not counted in the popular vote. If we have the popular vote taken from MI and FL, then we should also take the popular vote from all the caucus states, which will put BO WAY ahead on the popular vote. If we are doing “one person/one vote”, then B Obama wins. HRC is doing some fuzzy math, trying to rile up FL and MI. Either way, Obama has the vote.

She is hold onto a dream she and her hubby planning this for 8 years but not going to happen.She does not have the popular vote if EVERYTHING is counted.No one tell her she has LOST.She cannot except that the public doesn’t want or TRUST her.She is a mentl case right about now and needs help she also blew the chance she has for veep….

Everyone should just quiet down and let her do whatever she wants. She obviously has this thing about taking this thing into June even though she has no chance of winning. Like everyone has said and anyone with a brain knows once the primaries are over she will be exiting the race.

Jimmy Carter is another faithful husband and I am CERTAIN that part of his support for Obama is the desire to not see someone like Bill Clinton defile the White House again and if Hillary gets in? So does he.
Add that to Hillary’s death wish for Obama and her lying and I think the choice has become pretty clear for most sane people.

This was supposed to be her year. She’s been working for this all are life and making all the right moves. She is 60 now and not getting any younger. She can beat McCain and become the 1st female president. She may have done some questionable things to get there, but hey, that’s the way the game is played. Her real policies are good and she’s has the power and persistence to get things done. Barack is only 46. He can run in 2016 with time to spare. We could get the best of both worlds.
—John

I have lost all respect I once had for the Clintons in this campaign. They have squandered their chance to have a once in a lifetime primary through petty accusations, pandering, and typical Clintonian idiocy. I hope after this summer we never EVER EVER EVER have to hear from Bill and Hillary again. I honestly cannot believe their are still people out there who defend this sort of stuff.

Carter should be proud. He personally created the Reagan Democrats, and now he and the DNC are doing their best to drive them back to McCain after Clinton brought them back into the fold. Hillary would keep them Democrats.
Fine, and what’s left of your party will be pure left wing, with Obama backed by Carter, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean, and the left wing establishment, the same ones who are utter failures in Congress and will continue to be, but there won’t be much left to your party.
Hillary ’08

worldcitizen,
And everyone KNOWS the Clinton history in which is why she will not be the nominee. For the blacks and anyone who didn’t know him before are the ones who have taken the time to get to know him and have listened to what he has to offer. Those of you who refused are DEADLOCKED and creating your own disaster.

Rick from Pa,
Ok, this is where it gets UGLY and it’s obvious you’ve done your homework but it unfortunately will NOT work.

Losers need not apply. As a Hillary supporter, we expect to elect Hillary as the first Woman President of the United States of America. These males of the democratic leadership ought to convene their own conference and do to each other what they have done to Hillary. Don’t forget to bring their annointed one and have this lovefest.

Carter was the worst president. I do not care what Carter thinks about anything. Why are these people trying to tell Hillary what to do? I am sure Hillary (and Bill) will do whatever they decide.

You’re all like a bunch of children wanting your own way. Obama is no more the great savior of our nation than Hillary is the big B. many of you misogynistic writers label her. It’s politics as usual along with skewed opinions and unrealistic expectations. Is it no wonder George W. was voted into office twice and now has the lowest rating of any president? He didn’t get into office by accident, he was voted into office. The scary thing about voters is that they get caught up with the myth and mysticism of candidates and then wonder why they are disappointed later. My dog would make a better president than Bush right now so just be thankful there are two candidates out there that might actually be able to lead us out of the mess America is in. If you need to do some name calling at someone then just look in the mirror and you will find the perfect person.

worldcitizen
I don’t argue the accomplishments of what the Clintons have done for AA’s. The accomplishments haven’t gone unnoticed but AA’s have helped them as well. What I was referring to is as of late and pertaining to this campaign when all hell has broken loose because of the comments she’s made, the lies she’s told and so forth. I held HRC with the highest regards and respect until she played the race card. Race was not even a factor until FAT Rendell started that mess in PA. “Conservative whites are just not ready to vote for a Black man as President”. She ran with that afterwards and hasn’t stopped since. Yet his quote with small towns clingling to guns and Religion was just as damaging but he was misquoted and the MEDIA ran with that infiltrating the minds of people who were already on the fence about BO but wasn’t quite sure. Suggestions are always powerful but oftentimes they are MISLEADING. With her latest blunder about the RFK scenario, it was said that candidates don’t just blurt out stuff. It is usually a rehearsed situation and(This is ONLY my belief) that although she has somewhat apologized, who is to say that she didn’t mean it for real. Hence; knowing that the Obama campaign was going to react on this to garner more sympathetic votes. Should’ve, Could’ve Would’ve will not matter after June3d anyway. If the tables were turned and Obama was in this position, the outcry from Clinton supporters would be worse.
Peace and Prosperity to all

Why can not HRC Close The Deal..?

America may have President Carter’s second term. voters should think hard before you cast your vote.

She certainly can stay in the race to the end, but is it doing her any good? It doesn’t appear to be. I think it also is emphasizing her inability to bring her party together. She continues to engage in wedge politics, and that pretty much says it all.

To Mary:
Nicely put
To Obamabreaker:
It is your constitutional right to vote for whomever you please.
Peace and Prosperity

This coming from a former president who couldn;t get the Iran hostages released, and then they were only released after he left Washington airspace. Let him go back to the peanut gallery..ooops, peanut farm.
Know Obama…..no Obama
No Hillary…..no vote

I had heard about the books Obama had written and read one this week that belonged to a friend. After reading that book and reading some things that Obama actually said, I could never vote for him. I think any American that read it and still voted for him does not love this country or have the best interest at heart. I urge each of you to read it yourself and not take my word or anyone else’s word on these forums. If he is elected it will not be in the best interest of America.

worldcitizen
Your views are appreciated as well, you seem to be levelheaded. Yes, Rendell started that mess in Pa. Which astounded the AA community because their votes helped him become Governor. As far as Lewis is concerned, I believe he’s a delegate from Maryland. I don’t think it’s so much so that AA’s threatened his re-election more so than his district voting the majority for Obama. To me that is just politics.
Peace and Prosperity

She said evil things too many times.
Hillary is a despicable woman and
should be run out of town on a rail
We don’t need the likes of her-we have too many good people to choose from.

Bob Green
The question is why canN”T Obama close the deal?
If he had won New Hampshire AFTER the pundits had predicted the end of Hillary’s world…
If he had won California AFTER the huge rallies Oprah, Arnold’s wife, JFK’s daugher and Ted Kennedy did and Reuters/Zogby’s prediction of a double digit win…
If he had won Massacusetts where both Senators and the black governor had endorsed him and campaigned for him…
If he had won Ohio or Texas…
If he had won Pennsylvania…
If he had won Indiana where a third of voters live in the Chicago media market and he had predicted he’d win…
If he had won W. Virginia which voted for Jimmy Carter (one of 6 States) in 1980 and still has Democrats as Governor and both Senators…
If he won Kentucky where Abe Lincoln was born…
Ted Kennedy three weeks ago was quoted in Boston Herald as saying time was “running out” (his OWN words) for OBAMA to close the deal. Now he still hasn’t.
DoesN”T that tell you something???

My God, does anyone remember the Carter Presidency. The Iranian hostages, soaring inflation and a floundering administation. He was such a good Democratic President that he ended up giving the American people 12 years of Republicans in the White House. He’s better left to building houses for Habitat for Humanity than he is as a political commentator. Stay in Plains Jimmy and for heaven’s sake quit meeting with terrorist organizations like Hamas. With friends like you the United States doesn’t need many more enemies. Its just another attempt by Barack Obama and his supporters including Jimmy Carter to push the little woman out of the Democratic Primary. Hillary Clinton has every right to stay in this primary and take it to the convention if she so desires.

Jake is consistent in his story line and his attacks. Apparently he has never heard of journalistic impartiality, journalistic integrity, or journalistic ethics.

Every potential voter needs to read Obama’s own words in his books and also Michelle Obama’s college thesis and then decide whether they want them to lead our great American country.
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I agree. His books greatly influenced millions of Amerivans to support Obama. Thanks for the help!
Read Hillary’s as well and see where truth and fiction meet.

It is the faults of DNC Leaders and Some Super Super foolish Delegates if Dem loses the White House to GOP this November again. They keep continue endorse and support an inexperience young Senator beside a not very well-known background even they know he will lose.

Carter’s judgement is dubious. He was the worst President in the 20th century and maybe in the life of the Republic.

Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize but that obviously means nothing to some people. It does to me. He understands the Middle East far better than anyone in this race.
All the Carter bashers refuse to acknowledge he had both a hostile Republican House and a hostile Republican Senate during his adminstration. He also had to deal with the aftermath of Nixon’s adminstration and the 70′s oil crisis’.
Just like Bush has created all-time record deficits, so did Nixon. When a country has insane deficit spending, the value of the dollar goes down, and the result is eventually inflation. Carter took the hit for this, but it wasn’t his leadership that caused it.
Unfotuately, whoever take the Oval Office will probably be the scape goat for the Cheney/Bush years. Americans are a “now” country. We don’t want to do what’s best in the long term. (Look at McCain and Hillary’s gas tax plan for example)
It will take more than one 4 year period to change our economic condition. I’m afraid Americans won’t want to hear the reality and will go with the person simply saying “no new taxes”.
SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THE DEBTS OUR ADMINISTRATION HAS CREATED.IT WILL CATCH UP TO US. IT HAS ALREADY STARTED.

I think Hilary should run until she wants to say its over. Obama is winning and I think that is the main point

Some Facts to share:
the reason that Obama’s campaign, his surrogates, and left-wing media – CNN, MSNBC tried to push Hillary out of the race since this February is simple, they are scared!!!
Ted Kennedy fought till convention even though he was 500 delegates behind front-runner.
At this point, neither of the candidate reach the magic number, and the delegates of two states that Hillary won has not been seated. Why should she drop out?
How could you expect Obama would bring the change to America, when he is backed by “OLD Politicians”, even OLDER politician than Hillary, including Carter, Kennedy, Pelosi, etc.
He claimed he was running a high road, while initiated “unfair personal attack” on Hillary, saying she has “character gap”…. It is ok when you discuss issues, tell voters the policy difference, but personal attack is really a “low low road”. They would take whatever sentence out of the context from Bill, Hill, distorted it, and attacked Bill or Hill. This is exactly what BO has been doing, saying one thing, and doing the opposite.
Wake up, America! Make wise choice…

Why don’t we all band together and elect a good decent person as POTUS. The three choices we now have are all nothing but corporate puppets. Also, why are you women supporters of Hillary so mad??? Just because you’re not getting your way is no reason to be jealous, or is that just a woman’s trait?

If experience is the determining factor, consider this: Abraham Lincoln was a one-term Congressman, defeated in his run for re-election, lost in the election for the Senate, and yet is one of our greatest Presidents.
Conversely, George H.W. Bush’s resume indicated he was one of the most “experienced” people to ever run for President, yet is considered to be largely a failure.
Similar parallels can be drawn in many other cases. In fact, many of our most successful Presidents had very little experience in elective office.

We can’t blame the Dem voters for not picking the right candidate this time if we lose the general election because there are 16 millions voters who votes for Clinton against the other 16 millions voting for Obama. It is the faults of DNC Leaders and some super Delegates. They don’t want to make the Black voters angry which might hurt their future political careers. And They should listen to the voices of Dem voters in big and swing states and count all votes in Florida and Michigan or support a revote.

The saddest thing is having the most unsuccessful Democrats running the show — thus perpetuating our inability to win. Obama has the support of every losing Democratic candidate in the last 40 years. A recipe for disaster!

Tony post: “The saddest thing is having the most unsuccessful Democrats running the show — thus perpetuating our inability to win. Obama has the support of every losing Democratic candidate in the last 40 years. A recipe for disaster!”
I agreed. I am wonder when will they wakeup? and how many more lessons they need to learn?

Hillary supporters have REALLY lost their minds over this race! May be they should get to a doctor and ask for an increase in their Valium!

I love Jimmy!! He has the courage to speak his mind, I just wish he would go ahead and endorse Obama…Get it over with!!

Obama has proven to me that he can lead and he does unite. I was a Hillary supporter up until two weeks ago, Reality sets in, and I will not be the cause of causing a division in my party by trying to blackmail others by claiming Id vote for a Republican…I love my country too much to go there!

The California superdelegates are swinging to Senator Obama. He is 52 delegates short of wrapping up the nomination. Both Montanta and South Dakota are in his camp. By June 3rd the nomination process will be over. I respect Hillary’s supporters’ loyalty to their candidate, but it is time to look forward to the general election and the issues rather than continuing to downgrade each other. We need a Democrat in the White House – not bomb, bomb senior moments McCain.

I do not think she should give up. It is 100% bureaucratic BS to not count the votes of voters in Florida and Michigan. I mean honestly, the elections in both states were accurate and held to standard, it is quite unjust to rule them out because of a miscommunicated election time. This is America where people have a right to vote and a right to be counted, I think it is wrong for this right to be violated because of something as stupid as a date, when all other standards are met. This is a democracy for crying out loud, not a dictatorship.
There are many people wondering and commenting about sex and race in this election, this is completely irrelevant. The most important thing is who will run the country better…McCain or Clinton. The media is pushing Obama because they know that he will not be as strong a candidate against McCain as Clinton. I think a lot of people are buying into the bias of the media. Even if Obama wins the primaries there is a very incredibly slim chance that he will win as president. If you watch the reports contrasting McCain and Obama, you will see that already they are biased towards McCain. Clinton is right…the last thing we need is someone who quits…FIGHT HILARY HANG IN THERE UNTIL THE END!!

“United We Stand, Divided We Fall” Obama has tried to Unit Us and Hillary has tried to Divide Us! The choice is clear, Obama for President!

Sandy wrote: “The California superdelegates are swinging to Senator Obama…”
I think you might be right but believe or not John McCain could get California this time. Democrats will pick GOP President this November. History shows that they could vote for GOP Governor and it means that they could vote for a GOP US President too.

Hillary keep fighting if not for the democrats ticket go indpendent.

I agree with the Hillary Math comment below.
Can any Hillary supporter tell me how FL and MI will change the outcome?
They WILL, no doubt, be counted in some way. But Obama is still ahead in delegates no matter what. And by popular vote, (assuming you count MI and the caucuses FAIRLY), Obama is still ahead.
Please explain how you and Hillary rationalize giving Obama 0 votes in MI is fair since you’re claiming “every vote should count”
What about the four caucus states that Hillary has left out completely in her count? Do their votes not count now?

stock_craft – perhaps,IF the Repubicans had a strong candidate who was supported strongly by is own party – McCain is not. McCain is not match for Senator Obama – I am sorry you do not see that.

Why don’t the Democratic party cronies leave Clinton alone? She has worked hard and it should be her decision when to quit. It’s obvious that the Party Bosses and the Big Money people have anointed Obama from the start even though he has little to no experience. Hillary remains my presidential candidate no matter the outcome of this primary.

Sandy, let wait and see. We, the middle and working class can wait other 4 years for GOP in the White House. I don’t think John McCain could be worst than G.Bush, anyway.

The democratic party is anything but democratic!

Technically, Hilary has a right to remain in the race as long as she wants, even when there’s no chance of winning. But when she and her supporters start telling lies about how they’re leading in the popular vote, and how they need to stay in the race because Obama might get assassinated, it’s time for them to shut up and go away. All they’re doing now is destroying the Democratic Party.
There’s no way in hell I would vote for Hilary after her sleazy attempts to steal the nomination. Hilary would be little better than Bush, easily the sleaziest, most incompetent president in US history.

George W. is easily the worst, exceeding Harding’s scandal ridden presidency, but Carter is close behind.
We will never find out how bad Obama’s second Carter term will be, because he will be demolished like Carter was by Reagan, creating the huge number of working class voters called the Reagan Democrats.
Clinton brought them home. Hillary would keep them. It all depends if you want a party that can capture the White House or have the working class leave and leave a small number of latte liberals.
The blacks I understand their voting and don’t expect them to stray from Obama for the next few decades, but it’s something they earned after having only Jesse Jackson before as a viable candidate in history.
And they’ve already done a lot for the Clintons, and the Clintons for them, so there’s a good history there that will never go away.
Hillary ’08

Sandy,
John McCain or Hillary Clinton, they are centralist. Neither of them is far right or far left. We, the middle and working class in California and all big and swing States definitely will vote for Hillary and if not than John McCain

1masterstroke: I respectfully disagree with you. Just because of Obama was able to
put an effective campaign team together does not mean that he will be an effective Presidential leader. He is surrounded by Party Bosses, Big Money, and a lot of anti-clinton supporters. If campaign execution reflects leadership quality then how come George W. Bush’s administration was an abysmal failure? After all, they had Karl Rove, the genius to strategize and divide the electorial map as red and blue. Come to think of it, Obama is very similar to Bush in that he is a puppet to the extreme left.

Superdelegates–what a rediculous and useless concept.
They don’t have the courage to select the strongest, most qualified candidate to beat McCain. I thought that’s why the DNC had them to begin with…
The Democratic Party has become one big joke controlled by billionaires. They chose the inexperienced Obama to mold any way they want.
Hillary or McCain08

minil – then you are in for a huge disappointment. Senator Obama will be the next president. You are certainly free to not vote for him if you so wish, but cutting off your nose to spite your face does you or no one else any good. It is time to stop putting down each other and look forward to the general election and fight for issues, not about personalities.

I was just listening to Obama’s speech at the Wesleyan Commencement ceremony on live feed through CNN….
“Me, Me, Me, Me, and more ME….”
Doesn’t he know this is supposed to be about the graduates? That this is THEIR day, and that a Commencement speech is supposed to be about THEM and THEIR future and not about HIM and his CAMPAIGN??? How dare he take this opportunity given to him by Teddy Kennedy and hijack it for his political platform?
He is the one that needs to leave the race after June 3rd……………..

SandyB
And some say he’s not arrogant! Imagine that.

Hilary is trying to count every vote caste d for her.
This is good for her. What is wrong with Hilary keep pursuing her dream. Everyone has the right to pursue his or her dream. This is America.
It is written in our constitution.

No More Drama:
He MIGHT be “winning” now, but I guarantee you he won’t be come November, should he be the nominee……….

Every time an Obama supporter of the Party establishments like Jimmy Carter asks Hillary Clinton to QUIT, she has increased her support among voters as the best candidate to win in November.
After Christopher Dodd suggested Hillary to quit on February 26 while endorsing Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton won Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island. Hillary has also won more votes than Obama since February 26th.
After Bill Richardson asked Hillary to drop out on Good Friday, Hillary Clinton has won more votes and primaries than Barack Obama.
After Patrick Lehy aked Hillary to drop out in March, Hillary has won more votes and primaries than Barack Obama.
After John Edwards asked Hillary to drop out on May 14th, Hillary Clinton has won more votes than Barack Obama.
The voters -NO the Party leaders establishments- had the chance to stop the race and they did not and their responses with record turn out should be a wake up call to the party leaders.
17 million voters will support Hillary Clinton taking the fight for Michigan / Florida votes and the nomination to Denver.

HilloryorBust, that is a brilliant analysis. You know the SD’s are paying attention to those numbers.
They can make their decision in August in Denver how the party will go, to the White House or back to the days post Carter.
Hillary ’08

OBAMA 08!!!
Bill and Hillary revealed their secret Friday on why she is staying in the race. They are hoping and waiting.

The “I can’t spell so I’m voting for Clinton” is hardly an argument. It makes even less sense to continue to call Obama an elitist when Clinton is very much a millionare elitist with a good education as well. And McCain has been a US Senator living the high faluting life in washington for 20 years, that in my book also puts McCain as an elitist. The elitist thing is a bunch of bull and it’s not a worthy argument.

I am starting to believe these Hillary supporters are really just Republicans wearing mask….I mean seriously why would anyone want to divide the party? I know Democrats want to keep McCain out in Nov. So I have to conclude that Hillary supporters who attack Obama are just really Republicans wearing a Democratic mask!

Sandy, you brought up a GREAT point. Blackmail. Yes, the Hillary supporters who THREATEN to vote for McCain JUST TO GET REVENGE for Hillary not winning if she doesn’t win, are actually BLACKMAILING the party. This makes no sense IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN THE ISSUES important to the American people and NOT IN PERSONALITIES. I believe the ISSUES should take precedence in our choices. Both Obama AND Clinton are very close in the issues. Putting personalities aside, either one of them would be better for America than McCain.

[Carter] expects the remaining 210 or so uncommitted superdelegates will announce who they’re backing in the Democratic contest, after which Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, will have to exit the race.
Now read that statement several times and you will notice that there’s something wrong with it. Why is Carter so sure that the majority of those uncommited superdeleagates will vote for Obama?? Is it because the OUTCOME has been already predetermined? Since day one?? What a scam!

Open Letter to the Democratic National Committee and Super Delegates
430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC 20003
The existing nomination process needs to be wrapped up ASAP. There is agreement that…”It is absolutely disgusting that Hillary would try to use the assassination of RFK to advance her already pathetic arguments, likely requiring a response from the Kennedy family, especially in light of what they are already going through.”
Excuses made by Hillary Clinton are absolutely unacceptable!!! Per Time magazine, “Her excuse now is that the Kennedys have been ‘much on my mind these days with the illness of Senator Edward Kennedy”, but that doesn’t explain what brought it to mind more than two months ago. Hillary Clinton said basically the same thing in an interview with Time Magazine on March 6, 2008.
Such a statement reflects extremely poor judgement on the part of Hillary Clinton. Such an individual THAT LACKS GOOD JUDGEMENT… SHOULD NEVER HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT OR ANY OFFICE OF POWER!!!
Change is Necessary

And precisely what are Carter and the rest inferring by:
“by then it will be time for her to give IT up…”
Give what up?
Maybe another sexist remark by the “good old boys club??????”

Isn’t it amazing that when two people argue who was the best baseball player, actor, scientist, composer, etc. both usually consider the other’s choice to be a worthy candidate. But when it comes to politics, the sun shines out of your candidate’s anus while the opponent is the spawn of Satan! I’m supporting Clinton as long as she runs but, assuming Obama gets the Dem nomination, Obama will get my vote in Nov. because I’ve been paying enough attention to the issues to know that his positions are much closer to hers than McCain’s. This isn’t a popularity contest, folks. And none of the three remaining candidates is a god, but none of them will do as much terrible damage to our country as Bush has. As NY mayor Bloomberg said, no matter who wins, at least we’ll have an adult in the White House.

SandyB, Hill the Bosnian General was not for women, she has always voted with these old boys in the Senate. She has never been a strong supporter of the issues confronting women and has always defended her Bill against WOMEN who were mishandeled, and mistreated by Bill. Let us reject being misled about a very false claim re sexism in these elections. Hill is not ready or qualified to lead America and the good example is how she has managed her campaign: 30 milion in debt, that is a lady nobody will trust with the management of the American Economy. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

It is a bit sad to read the comments. I am not from the US, hence can’t vote but among many carefully watching the campaign. America has still a lot to loose (even after the disastrous Bush years) but is still an important voice.
For the rest of the world it does not matter too much if Obama or Hillary make the race, as long as we don’t have another Republican government. However, Hillary will never be received as a second Bill. She is too bitter and (at least to a non-US spectator) appears calculating and fake. Obama seems like a careful and more honest guy. And why would inexperience in matters of war be a handicap?! Perhaps for a Republican candidate. Which European head of state would be experienced in war?
I really hope that the American voters get their act together and vote united for change and are not afraid of a smart president for a change. It will have a huge impact on the global stage, but perhaps even more be one of the last chances to put America on democratic feet again.

Carter, the most ineffective president of my lifetime, is enjoying his moment in the spotlight pretending that anything he thinks is pertinent.
I was just reading about Ted Kennedy’s career in today’s paper. It mentioned how he only gave up his fight to wrest the nomination from Carter, the incumbent, at the convention. He trailed Carter by a much wider margin than Clinton trails Obama. So again… why exactly should Hillary drop out?

sandyB…
I see the hillary supporters doing this all the time, as a matter of fact you are trying to do it now by assuming Jimmy Carter was referring to sex.
And lets not forget Rev. Wright?? How many of you hillary supporters held on to those words like they were the gospel?
Lets not cast stones just at the Obama supporters when you know the hillary supporters have done the same.

Scott:
Are you not able to read, or do you just hear what you want to hear?
I just said in my last post that I KNOW Carter was NOT talking about sex in his remarks.
The POINT was that the phrase he used COULD have been misconstrued that way, and for far better reasons than what Obama’s crazies read into what Hillary said about RFK.
And what exactly was there to misconstrue about the phrases made by Reverend Wright? I think HIS inference was very clear.
How many ways are there to interpret “GD America????”

Maybe it’s time for Mr. Voting rights to give it up.

T, I do not want to engage you in a dialogue. Your arguments lack merit and there is no payoff for my time.

You tell him Sluggo! :o)

HoosierSue, Your assessment of Jimmy Carter’s presidency is way off in my opinion. I’d be interested to hear why you think he was ineffective.
Carter gets blamed for the Iran hostage crisis… because it happened or that he didn’t blow the bejezus out of Iran for it. He refused to negotiate with terrorists, plain and simple. People saw that as weak.
Showing the wisdom and foresight that republicans are famous for… Reagan and Daddy Bush seemed to have no problem dealing with terrorists and sold weapons to Iran, Saddam and Bin Laden. They even were nice enough to have the CIA help train the Taliban.
The economy did poorly during his 4 years (it was in the dumper after the Nixon/Ford administration), not his fault but he gets blamed… Republicans worship money so he is demonized for that.
Carter pretty much singlehandedly prevented a war between Egypt and Israel, a peace that stands today. Americans forget stuff like that, sad that we don’t give much credit for preventing war.
My other favorite that people seem to forget is that Carter had us on the road to energy independence back in 1977. He saw the danger of being dependant on middle east oil. He took the first steps to start that ‘apollo program’ for energy independence that everyone today seems to think we need. Carter even had solar panels installed on the White House. Reagan signaled his support for the idea of energy independence by having the solar panels removed shortly after taking office.
So yeah, I guess Carter was an idiot. Personally, I think we could use more idiots like Carter. The good news is that history is showing more and more the wisdom of Carter’s leadership.

I brought it up simply to prove a point about how certain statements can be easily taken the wrong way, when that was not their intent. I know exactly what President Carter meant (however I will admit that I found his use of that phrase “give it up” a little odd), just as I know what Hillary meant by her RFK statement.
The media, Obama, and his supporters were relentless in their inferences as to her motives on Friday after Hillary made her comparisons about primaries lasting into June, when she never mentioned ANYTHING about Obama in her statement.
I think anyone with common sense would know she was not meaning any harm to Obama, but yet no one was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt just to use it as an excuse to keep pushing her out of the race.

I truly believe that Jimmy Carter tried to change Washington. He believed that if he just did the “right” thing everything would turn out better. He was politically naive and turned out to be one of the worst presidents ever. He was president when oil prices and inflation were rocketing. He once joked about inflation by saying that we would all be millionaires. If that is not naive I just don’t know what it!!
What bothers me is that we are about to make the same mistake again. Obama wants to change things; he is vague about how this will happen; the “establishment” seem to like him and I have to wonder why; and he comes across as basically a nice guy. Is there any reason that I can wrap my mind around why this should not turn out to be another Carter era?

I doubt that many of the so-called Hillary supporters who say they will vote for McCain are really Democrats. I cannot imagine voting for a man who wants to continue the Iraq lunacy. I am a Hillary supporter but I will NOT vote for McCain!!!

Maybe the “monster” label and the “Tonya Harding” comparison weren’t that far off when you consider Hillary’s recent RFK gaffe. Personally I found Keith Olbermann’s remarks very revealing. The litany of campaign mistakes we have forgiven her for is impressive. I’d forgotten all the stupid things she’s said and lies she’s told in the last 9 months. Wow.

stock_craft – agreed – we cannot change the past or undo mistakes – we can only hope to correct them. However, there is no guarantee that either McCain or Hillary could make the corrections either. So, I vote for a candidate who gives us hope for change, for the chance to get my third-tour-of-duty son home from Iraq, for the chance to better our relationships with other countries. I cast my first vote for president for JFK. I feel like I am re-casting that vote when I drop the ballot in the box for Senator Obama. Each one of us has different reasons for supporting who we support – these are only some of mine. I will not change your mind any more than you will change mine. However, actually enganging with intelligent people in a conversation even though we may not be on the same side of the fence, is a rare experience on a blog. Thank you!

I’d just like to take a moment to thank Clinton and he supporters for throwing America under the bus. It’s all about you folks isn’t it? Hold your breath, stamp your feet, take you ball and go home. How pathetic.

maybe he has a tumor making him say stupid things too!

This is a campaign not a war against women and men. Sen. Clinton’s supporters are more into alledged sexism than they are the issues. With all that she has accomplished she and her supporters are so blinded by hate and the fact that this was supposed to be mine, that they can not see the harm that they are doing to the party. This bitterness paints an ugly color on the beauty of what she has done. Is this how she would answer the phone and
run a country by declaring sexism and claiming to be tired. We have already seen how she runs a campaign. I guess the media and Sen. Obama are the sexist that caused her campaign to be in debt and be so poorly managed. Wow they have more power than the Clinton’s.

democratforMcCain — I know you THINK you’re a democrat but you’re not. A democrat doesn’t say the things you have posted here and a democrat wouldn’t cast a vote for a guy like McCain. :-)

Tolkien wrote: “28% of Hillary supporters will vote for John McCain…”
I think it will closer to 98% of Hillary supporters, half the Democratic Party leaving. It happened in ’80 when we left in droves when Obama lookalike Carter ran off everyone to Reagan. Carter won 6 states.
The Democratic Party will be left a shell of Marxist sympathizers like Obama if the SD’s choose him in August.
Hillary ’08

addendum: I personally didn’t vote for Reagan, I supported John Anderson’s third party run, and likewise Hillary’s supporters would support a moderate third party as well. Mccain is just the next best choice we have after Hillary.
Hillary ’08

democratforMcCain – ah, but Senator Obama is the closest this country has come into finding another leader like JFK since the 60′s. Unlike you, I truly believe JFK would have supported Senator Obama – they were and are cut from the same cloth. And as far as Teddy goes, he has done many positive things for this country. Trying to knock Teddy down when he has such a horrific battle ahead of him is very insensitive. Get your emotions under control and lay off personal attacks and stick to the issues.

I guess many of you make believe Democrats are making threats to go Republican. PLEASE GO TODAY!!!
Why wait? Oh, you do not have enough intelligence to realize the Clinton has lost the race in every way possible.
If you go now, the debate can be real Democrats against real republicans. Than again, the Republicans probably don’t want you either…

sandy wrote: “Trying to knock Teddy down when he has such a horrific battle ahead of him is very insensitive.”
I wholeheartedly agree with that.
Hillary ’08

democratforMcCain There is no such thing as a democrat for McCain. You can be a former democrat for McCain but when you decide to vote republican you have in fact become one. simple enough to understand?

“Carter was hinting that he was a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, as far back as April.”
Given Carter’s success, or lack thereof, in the White House, this ought to be the kiss of death for Obama.

BRENT: You are hopeless….
These are the numbers that really matter!!!!!!
THAT MEANS A MAJORITY! GET IT?
Barack Obama
Pledged:1,660
Superdelegates 309
Total:1,969
Hillary Clinton
Pledged:1,500
Superdelegates 279
Total:1,779
Election Center » Needed to Win: 2,026

Time to take my leave – there were some intelligent bloggers here but the conversations have degrated into bashing each other’s candidates. This election is the most important election in my life time. Idiotic, unfeeling posts have no place in the election process.

Who is he to tell Hillary to leave the race before there is a nominee? Superdelegates don’t vote until the convention! We won’t have a nominee by June 3rd.

Who cares about Jimmy Carter?

I have the utmost respect for former President Jimmy Carter, but I believe he should back off his attempts to get Clinton to drop out. If Obama doesn’t have the magic number of delegates after the primaries have concluded, then Clinton ought to stay in all the way to the Convention. In several blogs I’ve read recently, links have been inserted to reports of Obama’s involvement in Chicago activities not heretofore investigated nor reported to the public. (See I’m sure the Obama/Dean/Axelrod machine will have a spin for all reports that implicate Obama, but I have a gut instinct of an Obama coverup–the same feeling I had about a Bush. I’m a Clinton supporter and will not be voting for Obama anyway. But, I’ve always believed where there is smoke, there is usually a fire. Unfortunately, I would get no pleasure out of saying “I told you so,” should the conflagration raise its ugly head AFTER the Democratic Convention.

Once again – ANOTHER OLD MALE PARTY LEADER – telling the woman what to do!!!
Hillary – take it to the convention.

PRESIDENT CARTER, AM I SURPRISED AT YOU – TELLING HILLARY TO GIVE IT UP AND THE SUPER DELEGATES TO MAKE THEIR DECISION ON JUN 3. THAT IS THE MOST STUPID REMARK COMING FROM A PERSON OF YOU SATATUTE I”VE EVER HEARD. YOU MUST BE FOR OBAMA. IF YOU ARE, YOU NEED TO KEEP THESE THOUGHTS TO YOURSELF OR ENDORSE HIM. SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT IF SHE IS THE WINNER OF THE POPULAR VOTE TO TAKE IT TO THE FLOOR OF THE DEMOCRAT CONVENTION. THEN IF THE DEAN & PELOSI LED DEMOCRATS SHUT HER DOWN IT WILL BE THESE UNEDUCATED FOLKS THAT WILL GO DOWN WHEN THEIR ELECTION COME UP. NO WAY DOES AMERICA WANT OR NEED THE LIKES OF SOMEONE AS DECEITFUL AS OBAMA. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON YOU MR. EX-PRESIDENT AND TO THINK I VOTED FOR YOU.

I respect Hillary for being a fighter.
Carter gives up too easy.
We need a fighter as Commander-in-Chief.
Obama acts like he is sensitive and too soft.
Since Obama gets offended too easily, why would Americans want a whiner as president?

As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko’s successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.
The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.

rev wright is going to be vice president

USmarine0331,
Why whould America want a woman that lies to them as their President ?
Do you believe Hillary Clinton is leading in the popular vote ?
You call Obama a whiner what has he been whiny about ?
If you really are a marine why would you want a president that calls troop liars when the say she wasnt under sniper fire ?
Not for Hillary anymore EYES WIDE OPEN !

kerry,
Google Hillary Clintons church “the family” will she make then vice president ?

karen wrote: “It’s the same as Hillary’s.”
It’s obviously not the same, for one thing he skipped out on the Iran vote. For that matter, he skipped out on most votes after barely getting into the Senate and then running for President.
He has little record, was determined to be the most liberal senator, and his political career associations are with Marxists, Muslims, and Syrian-Iraqi corruption kings, his political mentors.
Not to mention GD America Wright and Farrakan Black Liberation Theology, which believe it or not some people consider left of mainstream.
Hillary ’08

magda
You should stop reading the Inquirer!

Jena Smith
Are you really Willie Nelson?

Why should she give it up?? She has the right to be there just as Obama does. And it says alot that she is still in the fight and doesn’t let critizism from others be in the way of her dream. And obviously she is still in the competition since so many people has voted for her. She has overcome so many obstacles, and NOONE has the right to say that she should give up…thats a decision the citizens should make. Thats why we VOTE, and just because you dont agree with her…doesnt mean she has to give up. Just dont vote for her and thats it.
God bless you all.

NO democart is for McCain..
McCain is George Bush’s third term he lies about his war history his pow codename was song bird he made propaganda statements for the enemy..
He gave up US locations google vietnamvets against mccain they have the radio recordings the transcript and Freedom of Information papers to prove all of it!
John McCain even adimits it in part in his book.
John McCain will take away a woman right to choose!
No democrat will be for him!

democratforMcCain,
YOU WROTE:Kate ))))))))))))))being a community leader is not public office sorry, and Obama will not be the next president, are the one after, and I see you are a typical obama follower a name caller, a down grader someone who has to resort to bashing a person to feel like a real person, well go ahead if it makes you feel good,
I REPLIED:
If you really didnt know like i didnt then please see bellow the truth if you did know then even you know you are lying and no wonder you like Clinton she lies like you!
Obamas 11+ years :
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, and again in 2002 he held office till he was elected to the United States Senate in 2004 which he still holds
He and Hillary are both junior senators!
YET YOU STILL WONT ADMIT YOU WHERE WRONG WHO IS THE CON MAN ?
HONESTY MATTERS !!!
NOT FOR CLINTON NO MORE ! I MIGHT BE POOR BUT IM NOT STUPID! WHITE WOMAN FOR OBAMA

Brent,
You WROTE:
This is why even millions of strangers like me whom Hillary does not know personally but WHO seems to know HER will stand with her all the way. She is human. We WON”T vote for a Messiah who does NOT EVEN acknowledge he IS human.
What a load Hillary has made all her suporters look stupid she told us she leads in the popular vote she doesnt ! She told us she will FL and Michigan dont count then told us they do when she needed it!
She told us she was under sniper fire we believed her she called the airforce guy a lair or mistaken when he said there was no sniper fire.
When Obama makes a mistake he said I made a gaffe I messed up…Its not the first time it wont be the last.. Thats real thats human!
TRUTH MATERS

FranSC: Most of the Cult movements, Polygamists amd the Hate groups in this country belong to the white race and they did and are doing the most damage.
You cannot say that the young and old followers of Obama is a Cultist group because they are looking for change in this Country and not more of the same, with McCain or a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

HillaryMcCain08,
No one is trying to force hillary to quit! Thats her spin its not real !
Obama has said she can stay in it as long as she wants….
What people take offence to all her lies and bs..
She is not winning in the popular vote!
People would love to see hillary stay in the race and critice john mccain but all she does is racebait and lie…
She lied to me and I have had enough of her.. Its time for the future its time for Obama!
Hillary supporter no more.

Hillary Clinton lost my support when she threw her hat into the presidential race, and since then every ounce of considerable respect that I once had for her and Bill has been lost forever.
Hillary may indeed have a constitutional right to run for president, but she is way off base morally and ethically in aspiring to the office in my book.
Hillary would have us believe that she was more or less sharing presidential duties with Bill during his tenure ..okay, if we accept that doesn’t that mean that both she and Bill have served the constitutionally limited time as president.
The country doesn’t need or deserve a (Constitutionally flaunted) third Clinton term anymore than it deserves a third Bush term.
This “dynastic” issue was the first thing that unsettled me early in the campaign, and then the issue was a moot point with me as I listened to and watched Mr Obama, finding in him an intelligent, visionary, admirable and likeable candidate that, in my opinion, doesn’t come along very often in any century.
While the Clintons have proved themselves as leaders, their appalling campaign tactics show just how ugly and distrustful naked ambition is.
I supported them during their last tawdry years in the White House, but looking back I feel that I gave them too much of the benefit of the doubt.
The Clintons will say and do anything to get back into the White House, and it’s been appalling watching them this year in their efforts to change goalposts, pass lies off as “misspeaking”,set themselves up as champions of disenfranchised voters (if Barack had been on the Michigan ballot and had campaigned there as well as in Florida and won, would the clintons be clamoring to seat the delegates?. I think not).
IFortunately we have Barack Obama, and asuch, the Clintons hopefully will justg go away after June 3 (earlier if ppossible please).
I am a 64-year-old white female lifelong Democrat who takes further offense at Hillary’s complaints of gender bias in this election. It is a cheap, cheap shot on many levels. Not the least being the implication that it is more important to break gender barriers than racial barriers.
Will Hillary Peron stop at nothing!!!!!!
m ruzza,NYC

m ruzza,
Im a 28 year old white woman who was on the wrong team but now agrees with you 100% : )
A woman for president one day soon yes!
Hillary Clinton for president no never !
No drama Obama 08 12
GO AWAY HILLARY WRITE SOME BOOKS AND PUT YOUR LIES TO GOOD USE!
TAKING A KIDS BIKE AND VIDEO GAMES WHEN YOU HAVE $120 million is discusting !

Carter is nothing but an old fart that needs to go back to selling his peanuts.

Carter needs to shut up and go back to his peanut farm. If Hillary doesn’t get it, I’m voting for McCain and I’m not changing my mind. Everyone I know feels the same way. Obama is a loser.

Nancy,
You have just been busted!
Y
ou have always been for John McCain even when Clinton was winning telling Obama supporters to vote for McCain!
hahaha you have been caught !
NO woman will vote for McCain and give up her right to choose!
Nancy vote for who ever you want but dont lie to us !

Gallup Daily: Clinton Maintains Lead Over McCain NJ — Gallup Poll Daily tracking from May 20-24 finds Hillary Clinton maintaining a significant 49% to 44% lead over John McCain when registered voters are asked about their preferences for the fall general election, while McCain has a slight 47% to 45% advantage over Barack Obama.
Hillary can beat McCain. Obama can not

Democrats want to win the fall election, not the milestone of an AA nominee. To win the White House back we need Hillary Clinton. With barack McCain will win.

Tapper can manipulate Carter’s words any way he wants. Hints of endorsement is not an endorsement and President Carter has not given his endorsement to barack yet.

Real clear politics
Obama against mccain
05/11 – 05/24 — 46.9 44.1 Obama +2.8

What is wrong with praising McCain? McCain praised obama. Does that mean that barack is republican? barack praised reagan and nixon, is he a republican in the closet or in the closet anyway?

Kate still Hillary Clinton beats McCain for a margin of more than five in that poll

Demorules. Hillary Clinton a republican implant after 30 year of working for the Democrats in this country? Obama the unknown may be a foreign country implant.

Graceful exits are great politicians and actors. Hillary is a mediocre person with a mediocre brain and subprime values. Expecting her to make a graceful exit like expecting George Bush to recite a soliloquy. It just isn’t in them.

hillary Clinton started her political career as a republican for Goldwater who was aginst civil rights.. she only became a democrat because she married bill clinton… A real feminist hey ?
Obama was born in the USA..
John McCain was not born in the USA if he was to win the election it would be opened for a court challange !

wOW you Hillary supporters are just like Hillary..no wonder!
Hillary is making a bad name for women. I would be the first person to vote for a women president…but the right woman president and she is not the one. She makes ALL women…well, uneducated white women, I mean…look crazy, emotionally unstable, manipulative, decietful and frankly, not fit to ever hold a status so high as being president. She is pushing the womens movement backwards not forwards! But the uneducated white ppl just aren’t smart enough to make an educated decision and vote for the person who has consistently showed us great leadership skill, excellent fundraising ability, the ability to avoid distractions from the things that matter, the ability to avoid tearing up Hillary’s reputation like she attempts to do to him for the purpose of votes, and the ability to stay emotionaly balanced, calm, cool and collected throughout this whole crazy campaign. He is obviously fit to be president and he will and he will fix America and all you sorry ppl who ever voted against him will fill like garabage….just like you do now for voting for Bush. That’s how it will go..
So, get with the program!
Also, look at it this way.. if Barck Obama was a woman, and if he was white…he would be the president already. So, forget what he looks like, and make the right vote and save this country!

Go ahead and ignore the wishes of Florida, Michigan, and 49% of the rest of the Democratic Party Mr. Obama. I’ll be voting against you in November Sir.

Kate, John McCain is a patriotic American since his birth. He has fought for the country and he suffered torture in Vietnam. He represents experience and acumen accumulated over a long period. What does Barrack Obama offer? Change. What kind of change? He does not answer. He did not vote properly in the Senate. He needs to grow up and show he can make decisions and handle responsibilities. I am a Democrat but when it comes to judging between John McCain and Barrack Obama, I am first American and as a voter I feel John will make a better President than Obama. If Hillary does not make it, I will have it to vote for John. Sorry Obama and your supporters.

Libre wrote: “What is wrong with praising McCain? McCain praised obama. Does that mean that barack is republican? barack praised reagan and nixon, is he a republican in the closet or in the closet anyway?”
Who know? One day, watching one hour of Mr. Obama speech in C-Span, I thought he is a Republican because he criticized more of Clinton’s policy than GOP incumbent

Krishna Baru,
You asked change to what ?
The US contitutuon says to be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. … U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born. … John McCain wasnt born in the USA so he will face a court challange and most likley lose!
John McCain isnt a war hero google veitnam vet against john mccain !

Libre,
Please see current polling which shows Obama will win the state Clinton won in the general election!
Popular vote truth:
Popular Vote Total
16,685,941 49.1% 16,227,514 47.7% Obama +458,427 +1.4%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,020,025 49.1% 16,451,376 47.5% Obama +568,649 +1.6%
Popular Vote (w/FL) 17,262,155 48.3% 17,098,500 47.8% Obama +163,655 +0.5%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,596,239 48.3% 17,322,362 47.6% Obama +273,877 +0.7%
CAN OBAMA WIN THE BIG STATES:
National Obama +2.8 Clinton +1.5
Pennsylvania Obama +5.8 Clinton +11.7
Ohio Obama +1.3 Clinton +8.3
Wisconsin Obama +1.6 McCain +3.4
Virginia McCain +1.3 McCain +10.4
Florida McCain +8.3 Clinton +3.0
California Obama +11.5 Clinton +11.3
Total Delegates 1970 – 1780 Obama + 190
He needs 52 delegates to finish this race !
Real clear politics is the source

KAte google anything you want. you can find thousands of websites against anyone you want. Maybe you should turn off your computer sometimes and go ut and listen to people, read or learn something. google Wright, google Rezko, google Blackwell, google Hamas,google Michelle. google anything…

Kate you are quoting polls put out by Obama’s sources. That is okay, you can believe in “change” if you want. but obama is unelectable and won’t have the support of real Democrats. He won’t have the Florida and Michigan vote, the bitter blue collar vote, the rural vote or the Hispanic vote. He is unelectable

libre,
They have freedom of information document to prove John Mccain gave up USA locations they have his statement and propganda recordings which prove his actions.
In his own statements which are there he said his arms were damaged when he punched out the Jet not from his treatment like he tells us now! His code name was SONG BIRD because hee talked and gave up information and made propaganda radio broadcasts he admits to some of it in his book.
PS I have googled all those other things I was first for Hillary until I got into an argument and found out Hillary had been lying to me !

Panama Canal was NOT US territory Please read the Constitution. It was under US administration

Kate “I was first for Hillary until I got into an argument and found out Hillary had been lying to me !
explain, how has she lied to you?

Libre,
You wrote:
Kate you are quoting polls put out by Obama’s sources. That is okay, you can believe in “change” if you want. but obama is unelectable and won’t have the support of real Democrats. He won’t have the Florida and Michigan vote, the bitter blue collar vote, the rural vote or the Hispanic vote. He is unelectable
DONT BE SILLY :
The polls are from real clear politics not from Obama its the truth. He will be our next president !

Kate, “sweetie” real clear politics is not independent from Obama. Democrats won’t vote for Obama. You think barack went pandering to Florida because he is sure of getting the votes/ forget it Obama is unelectable.

jeff unfortunatly obama brought racial division to the party, I agree with you is unbelevable that African American are voting for Obama just for his race even though he has no substance. This racist attitude is making the Democrat party a mess and about to lose an election that was practically in the bag.

MRUSA unfortunatly not. Obamacrats are not on the same side of Democrats. Write Hillary on the ballot.

libre,
You sound like one of those right wing wacko’s. I am Black myself and never voted for as you call us African American politician any any race. If I voted for a white politician what’s that make me. If a majority have to vote to win any election or race, hince white is the majority in this country…does that make you a racist. How do you know they don’t feel he’s the best candidate! Barack is of mixed race…but you only see him as a African American. Take off the the African and just say he’s an American. I know you can’t picture that…Right.

libre,
Kate is not Panama, is the Panama Canal zone. it is just like Guantanamo.
No its not you look like a fool.
The Thomson-Urrutia Treaty was signed on April 20, 1921 between the United States and Colombia. Based on the terms of the agreement, the U.S. paid Colombia 25 m illion dollars in return for Colombia’s recognition of Panama’s independence.
The agreement never made it US territory!
The Thomson-Urrutia Treaty was the treaty signed to make the panama canal get a history leason and stop pretending you are for Hillary when all you do is defend John mcbush mcsame..
If McCain did win the election he would losea court challange Article Two of the United States Constitution make McCain unelectable.

Kate and that is what we know so far, we do not know how many more skeletons he has in the closet. On top of all he has a wife that hates AAmerica. How could she possibly be the first lady?

I am not hiding anything . I am a democrat and as a Democrat I support Hillary nClinton. It is not a secret I have been posting on this blogs for months. What are you hiding? Mr Usa are you one of those Republicans pushing Obama so he can be easyly defeated by McCAin?

Kate ok, what is the point if he never went to work.

Kate Wright is not about religion it is about radicals antisocial individuals.

libre,
YOU WROTE:
Kate ok, what is the point if he never went to work.
CAN YOU WRITE WITHOUT LYING ?
He passed a lot of bills for someone who “never went to work”….
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from the 13th District, which then spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.
Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.
He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.
Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained.
He did quite a bit in just his first year… Imagane what he would have done if “he showed up”

MrUsa. No Obama does not represent Democratic values. The fact that he copies most of Hillary’s policies does not make him like her.

MR USA COULD YOU CHANGE THAT TO:
“BAD REPUBLICANS” because lots of good republicans are voting for OBAMA!

Thanks MR USA my next door neighbours will be happy now!

thanks to the person who gave the clinton supporters count to website.
i watched and read.
thanks again, it is very well done.
and makes a lot of sense.
once again thanks!

I think the talking heads have proposed that fear always trumps hope and the Obama represent hope and McCain represents fear. And as one FDR once said – “the only thing to fear is fear itself” addendum 2008 – and John McCain.

America can tolerate leaders that are centrists, or slightly on either side, but Obama is so far to the left. You don’t know because he hasn’t told you his plans. This guy is going to radically change America, America won’t like it, but he’ll say “but you voted for me, you should have known”….look out this guy is a radical with a socialist agenda. I’m not Bush fan, not a McCain fan, could take Hillary, but any of those are better than Obama. A radical that will finish the job and destroy America. Read his book. A racist dialogue on the scale of “Mein Kampf”. There are many parallels to 1933 Germany and Obama is the American Hitler.

personally I like obama more than clinton but the only reason that obama is going to beat clinton is because of the new emperor of the Democratic party, George Soros. He has diverted 100′s of millions of dollars to the democratic party, 527 groups like moveon.org, and other super liberal organizations that would not exist without his money.
This guy almost got Howard Dean the nomination in 2004 and has since put him in charge of the Democratic Party.

Keep Fighting HILLARY!!!
We will NOT let them push you out!
Get out Hillary – YOU ARE GOING TO WIN
YOU get MILLIONS of VOTES
YOU are way up in the polls to beat both McCain & obama
YOU have the Electorial Map to win the General – obama does NOT
YOU are the reason the supers have not “Given” it to obama
YOU are QUALIFIED to be President of the USA – obama is NOT
YOU are the reason obama is desperate – had to resort to dirty political tricks like the LIE about RFK “Story” – Disgrace!
YOU HAVE THE POPULAR VOTE – The WIll of the People will Prevail
YOU WILL WIN!

Kate: He was a state senator until he because a senator in 2004. There is a difference. Hillary didn’t have to be a state senator she was elected senator. Obama is is junior senator at this time. Get your facts straight and start reading politics.

Wow such strong comments.
No one wants to put down Hillary. She has done great things and is tough and a fighter. At some point though perhaps after the primaries she will need to decide what is in the best interest of the party. One can only be inspired and energized with Obama who will offer a clearly better choice over McCain. In a couple of weeks it will be time to unite and stop the negative comments.

Hillary supporters will NEVER vote for Obama so if you people think that come November we will unite behind the democratic party you are sooooo mistaken! The Democrat party is NOT a democratic entity…if it was then this travesty would not be happening! The DNC has no backbone and has treated Clinton with such disrespect and so has the media. The Obama campaign has done it’s dirty work behind the scenes to discredit Clinton and we will not forget that when we pull the lever for McCain..so get it out of your heads if you think we will be there for you in November…you aren’t for us now and we won’t be for you in November!! Count on it!!! Hillary or McCain!!!!

Mariann Pepitone
Take away the super delegates and Barack Obama is still winning !
Your story make no sense if as you claim he did deals to win the super delegates then Clinton would be winning if you took them away right ?
take the super delegates away and clinton is still losing

micha6888,
I was a Hillary suporter I voted for here in NY I am voting for Barack Obama now!
You can vote for who ever you want!
Obama will win the nomination on sat and he will win the general in nov!

Without super delegates:
Obama has 1660 delegates
Clinton has 1460 delegates.
I dont care about Rev Wright micha6888
I dont care about people Revs or pastors.
Rev Wright helped the Clinton’s keep their marriage together. Funny how the dont tell their supporter that isnt it ?

Hillary should run as independent. Obama and McCain will fight with each other and ultimately, Hillary might be the President elect.
If the voters are split three major ways, Hillary will get more votes than Barack or McCain. She has the more solid supporters than those two. There will be many democrates and independents support Hillary.

Who is Jimmy Carter? One of the worst President? Kissing HAMAS. Obama is just like another Jimmy Carter like. We can’t afford another Jimmy/Obama to lead this country. NO OBAMA!

All Democrats need to leave the party, it is way to corrupted. There is no visible leadership it is all behind the scenes.
Clinton supporters please don’t write her name in the ballot, instead vote independent and don’t stay at home, don’t vote for Mr. McCain either he is what the media wants. Mrs. Clinton needs to run as an Independent because the DNC have decided not to have the best candidate to win. Their interest is no the best for this country, it’s how they can bring a lot of money to the DNC.

Hi Kate:
It appears you are raising a valid point in respect to John McCain’s birth. You are arguing that he was not born in U.S. How can we assume that the Republicans are not aware of this issue and have not developed sound defenses. Further, if Obama at his loss were to raise this issue and challenge McCain’s election, it will be a big public relations disaster. Both Republic and Democratic parties are aware of the circumstances surrounding John McCain’s birth so I doubt if this issue will be raised after Obama’s loss to McCain. Since John McCain’s father was in the U.S. Navy and John’s mom could have gone to the mainland for delivery, the courts are likely to take a lenient view of this issue. I don’t think Obama can prevail in the courts. Look at this isuue in any way if Obama gets the Democratic nomination, he will be a loser.

I agree with President Carter.
While he was not an especially good president, the reality is this; if the Democrats want to enjoy any chance of winning the general election, they must support a consensus candidate, heal, if possible, and focus on beating McCain.
I personally think the “super-delegate” system is undemocratic; I’d like to abolish it.
Why can’t voters, simple voters, be TRUSTED to choose their nominee.
The real shame in this race, aside from the super-delegate sham, is that the voters of Florida and Michigan may be denied a vote that counts.
That’s not democracy.
Hail to the DNC! :(
Hail to Gov. Dean. :(

micha6888,
Voting for war in Iraq was poor judgement voting for anyone who wants to continue that war is worse judgement !
Who cares about REV RIGHT ? NOT ME

micha6888,
Who said they will bring the war to an immediate end ??
Your having a straw man argument I never said anyone would !
Orange cat thanks for the spelling check : )

RL in Illinois,
Obama was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii
PLEASE DONT LIE ITS BORING ! IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED : )

I am convinced that democratic party will loose in November. I see more and more attempts to force a woman out of the race in the name of unity. Do we care for democracy and democratic process ? Why Hillary should justify staying in the race ? This is her right. If democratic party ignores Michigan and Florida, they may loose both states.

Hillary needs to stay in the race until the DNC convention. Let the vote be taken and let the voters decide. Why Obama campaign wants to stop democracy and stop the vote is beyond me?!?!?! I have to agree with Bill Clinton that she has been seriously disrespected. It’s pathetic the unfairness in the coverage. I would consider voting for her in the general election.

Pelosi said Clinton can stay in the race as long as she wants why dont you like her ?

Until the convention there is no nominee.
There is only a “presumptive nominee.”

Kate, superdelegates can say whatever they want until the convention, but as we’ve seen, they can always change their minds.
Their endorsements are not binding.
Think about it, McCain is not the “official” nominee, either.
So, even if HRC drops out, Obama is still the “presumptive nominee.”

josgirl,
Super D’s can go where ever they want but obama leads in the pledged delegates so it doesnt really mater.. Obama is 190 ahead in them.. the ones you earn for winning the votes of the people!
John McCain is the nominee they dont have super delegates in the republican party.
“presumptive nominee.” is just the term they use to make the conventions seem important when really all it is, is one long comercial that the news covers for free!

Pledged delegates are very corrupted people. They voted as they pleased, in many states they were a lot of complains, Mrs. Clinton won several counties and caucuses and yet the pledged delegates voted for Mr. Obama, many of these pledged delegates admitted about money offers, and others were influenced and pressured. Basically Mrs. Clinton have been cheated. In California Mr. Obama didn’t get a single vote in many counties yet the pledged delegates which are mostly males voted for Mr. Obama. The Democratic party is truly a mess.

Kate, if Hillary doesn’t drop out it goes to the convention.
Neither delegates or superdelegates are legally bound to either candidate.

Alice Newton,
I agree.
Every time he lose the next day he gets endorsement to catch up the delegates.

josgirl,
You wrote:
Kate, if Hillary doesn’t drop out it goes to the convention.
Neither delegates or superdelegates are legally bound to either candidate.
Every other election the person who won the most pledged delegates won every other election the person who is losing by as much as Hillary is would have droped out for the good of the party!
I ant to see a woman president but i dont think Hillary is the right woman to be president!
Obama has ran the better campaign he has stuck up for Clinton when she has made mistakes he hasnt gone after her she on the other hand has gone after him like he was a republican..

Kate,
Obama won 33 primary???
What states?

This Democratic primary is atypical for many reasons.
That being said, without some sort of deal being made between HRC and BHO before the convention, the possibility of a brokered convention looms.

catleya,
caucuses requires the same checks as primaries and Clintons wins are not all primaries either! Only one state required a Driver licence check and hillary and Obama are against that as are all the democrats!
Please answer my question so even though hillary lost 18 to 33.
You think she should somehow still win this ?

DRPolitics1,
Yeah they made a mess but Clinton has lost she can not win it fairly so why is she staying in ? She hasnt been robbed of a win she was owed she just lost fair and square!
What good is she doing staying in ?
I dont care how long she stays she has lost! The only person she helps is the republicans. Yippy for her !

Tom in California,
Thats what i think too!

Have you noticied how Hillary, when campaigning always looks like she is meeting a long lost friend with a lot of FAKE enthusiasm ?

Well, well, another example of denying women the right to wage an undisturbed campaign to win the Presidency! How democratic, mr. Carter! This issue will only be solved on the Convention in september, as it should be, because nobody will have enough pledged candidates before that time. Those are the rules, let’s stick with them.

donbier44,
As a woman Hillary Clinton is doing nothing for us. She makes us look irrational and manipulative… But Hillary doesnt care this is about her and only her isnt it! She lost fair and square but she stays in it! If she has to destroy the party so she can win then so be it… If she has to make John McCain win the general so she can win in 2012 then so be it.. If we have to lose a right to choose along the way then so be it because she is doing this for us isnt she ?

Rick from Pa,
If hillary is so great why cant she win ?
you ask why cant obama close the deal ?he will real soon but the bigger question is why cant Clinton the great beat Barack Obama why has she lost to him 33 contests to her 18 ?

Hillary supporters wants to win at any cost. Hillary has made a ton a errors that you never point out. Obama has to come out and bail her out every time. I think he has run wonderful campaign class. Thats a gentleman.

Carter was probably, next to Herbert Hoover, the absolutely worst President in US history. Remember the Iranian hostage fiasco? the botched rescue attempt of US hostages? Their years of imprisonment? His utter inaction (hiding in the White House). Or how about the runaway inflation AND economic recission at the same time? Lately, he met with the terrorists, Hamas, and announces they will accept peace in exchange for release of imprisoned murders and more land and $, etc., but TRUTH was it they only agreed to a temporary truce! PLEASE don’t tell us what Carter thinks or wants. We the public don’t care! The dupe is just trying to wiggle his way back into relevance on Obama’s coattails!

Kate:
My Point: Carter is a mockery……for him to suggest anything to anyone is a complete joke.
He had his moment in the sun and made a mess of it. He can as he has already done continue his work with habitat….the only way to make up for the shame he brought on this nation.
Other than that he can mind his own business or he will go down in history just as Judas Richardson and the like will.

Carter wasn’t the worst President ever, that distinction belonged to Warren G Harding, until GWB. When Carter took office, inflation was already a problem, and had been since the “guns and butter” policies of Johnson. Nixon and Ford had given lip service to addressing the problem, but Carter did something: he appointed a Fed chief with a harsh plan on hos to solve the problem. Paul Volker systematically pushed interest rates up while controlling the monetary supply. Reagan is given the credit for the recovery, but it was the stable base created by Volkers plan that made it happen.

Anthony,
It appears your definition of the strongest candidate is the one who loses big states such as, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, W. Virginia, and Texas and wins states that have caucuses. May be the change that you, Obama supporters want is Presidential elections by caucuses.
By the by I am really wondering if some of the writers on this blog are paid bloggers.

I am seeing that democratic party is anxious to push Hillary Clinton out of the race. Why is this party afraid of letting the process complete ? I have helped this party in the past. I would not do it again unless some key people like Howard Dean are replaced with more reasonable people. Ruling regarding Michigan and Florida was bad and it will haunt the party when they lose at least one of the two states in November.

She’s a nuisance – public nuisance,
private nuisance, common nuisance,
mixed nuisance, unabatable nuisance,
every kind of nuisance there is.
She’s neither remediable nor
redeemable.
Give her the hook. Get her off
the stage.

Go Hillary you can do this,show the people you are a strong woman.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH PRESIDENT CLINTON ON THIS ONE. THE MEDIA HAS TREATED BARACK OBAMA LIKE HE’S RUNNING FOR PROM KING AND ALL THE WHILE DOING EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO DEMEAN ANY OF HILLARY’S VICTORIES. EVEN WHEN SHE KICKED HIS BUTT IN TEXAS, RHODE ISLAND AND OHIO THAT NIGHT, WE RECIEVED VERY SHORT-LIVED MEDIA COVERAGE……..
I’M AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORTER OF HILLARY CLINTON AND I MUST SAY THAT NOW I’M NOT SURE WHOM I’LL VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER. I FEEL THAT THE MEDIA AS WELL AS SOME SUPERIOR DEMOCRATS REALIZE THAT OBAMA WILL NOT WIN IN NOVEMBER, BUT HAVE CREATED SUCH A HUGE PEDESTAL FOR OBAMA TO STAND ON THAT IF THEY PULL THEIR SUPPORT NOW THEY WILL BE VIEWED AS RACISTS. THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS STRATEGICALLY AND CAUTIOUSLY PLAYED THE RACE CARD THROUGH OUT THE CAMPAIGN. HERE WE HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT IS WINNING IN THE POPULAR VOTE IN STATES THAT MATTER IN A GENERAL ELECTION AND THE MEDIA IS SELLING US A CANDIDATE WHO MAKES GOOD SPEECHES AND HAS NO EXPERIENCE…… GO FIGURE!

Thirty five years of nothing,
piddling, worthless experience.
More than 20 million dollars
amassed in campaign debt.
Hundreds of unpaid bills to
small vendors and small
businesses. Some three hundred
fifty thousand dollars owed
to health insurance companies
covering her staff – and she
wants to make health insurance mandatory even if you can’t
pay the premiums.
Just go home, babe.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS – TAKE NOTICE
———–ROE v. WADE———–
Two of the current justices of the United States Supreme Court will probably retire within the next four years. One is 75 and the other is 84. This will give the new president the ability to nominate two new justices. If McCain is elected you can be sure the new justices will be just like Roberts, Scalia and Thomas: willing to overturn ROE v. WADE. So think when you vote!!!

rhbate – and they loved the caucus voting, and moveon and anyone who didn’t think it was a crime for the CIC to lie to a grand jury.

Will someone PLEASE tell Jimmy Carter, that he is not obligated to support Hillary. Just go ahead and support Obama if that is what you want to do in the first place.
I really WISH that a political cartoonist could do a drawing on this article. It shows that he has a bad conscience since its taking him so long to make a public decision.
Actually, he does not need to let us know anything. Can someone let Jimmy know the rules of this Super delegate process?

If Obama can win the race, he would not have all his fanatics and party pundits to push Hillary out of the race. That is his strategy: he can’t win the race so he wants to be the only one to cross the finish line. on tracks, it is a foul. In baseball, we call it a steal. In tennis, it is a rain-out.
For democrates, it is a shame. The party are working like an animal farm of the Carter brand.

Senator Clinton: Good advice for you from Shakespeare (Macbeth): “Stand not upon the order of your going, but go at once.”

Peanuts to Jimmy Carter. Hillary is not hurting the party because the voters make up the party and Hillary will probably win in popular vote. Obama will not have enough delegates to win the nomination so he has not won anything. Hillary should go all the way to the convention because many of her supporters will not vote for Obama if he wins the nomination. Mr. Peanut and Jelly Bean Dean should not be trying to run the party. They are party poopers for sure.

Jimmy Carter is a fine one to talk. He couldn’t even recapture the Presidency. Okay, so Clinton supporters, an ex-President is telling you it’s time to leave this party. A party made up of a bunch of old, white guys. As long as old-white guys are the thing, vote for McCain. Or tell McCain to put General Powell on his ticket and the Republicans can win in a LANDSLIDE. Democrats are the world’s biggest losers. Ask me, I was one until NOW.

You know what else I find curious, President Carter? Teddy Kennedy wouldn’t concede the race to you in 1980 and he was behind 700 delegates. He stayed in because he felt he was going to win the popular vote. That’s the same reason that Hillary is in it, because she likely will win it — votes that is. The thing that used to matter before Dems got all cutesy with the proportional delegates. You can in retrospect say that maybe Hillary’s staying in will have the same effect that Teddy staying in had on you. Or maybe you’ll have to face the fact that you were no match for Ronald Reagan. In fact, the only mistake Hillary made this weekend was in invoking the wrong Kennedy. She could have mentioned Teddy Kennedy staying in all the way to the convention — even though the polls showed he was so liberal that only 30% of the country wanted him. Who has been pushing the most to get Hillary out of the race — Hillary who depending on the week still bests both Obama and McCain in polls — it’s people like you, President Carter and Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and Howard Dean. How dare you suggest that this woman out to get out and not be allowed to do what all the men were allowed to do? Which is basically…run the damn race.

She’s a legend in her own
mind and a minor footnote
in this year’s election
story.
After June 3, she’ll be
Hillary Who?

Carter = one-termer, muff said. About RoeVWade being overturned, THE UNBORN HAVE RIGHTS TOO!!! GO MCCAIN 2008

Look at some of McCain’s
policies.
Iraq war:
will go on, if you want
to see the end of it
stick around a hundred
years
Economy:
doesn’t understand it
Veterans’ benefits:
they are already getting
too much
Taxes:
more cuts for the wealthy,
make them permanent
Illegal immigration:
let’s have more of it
Health care:
what about it?
Energy policy:
no gas tax for 3 months
Sane people will not elect
this man as their town
dogcatcher.

She’s a nuisance – public nuisance,
private nuisance, common nuisance,
mixed nuisance, unabatable nuisance,
every kind of nuisance there is.
She’s neither remediable nor
redeemable.
Give her the hook. Get her off
the stage.
Posted by: anon | May 26, 2008 12:31:06 PM
____________________________
PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE IT EASY FOR ME TO HELP OBAMA LOSE BIG!!!
KEEP HI-FIFING YOURSELF IDIOT.

Kris,
YOU WROTE:
“DNC simply cannot disfranchise millions of voters in these two states.”
I agree 100% to disinfranchise the millions of voters from that state but that includes thouse who did partipate because they were told the votes that was held wouldnt count! Told that by every one including Hillary.
I was a Hilary supporter but how she has acted has both sadenned and agered me. She has made it like she cares about FL and Michigan and it Obama fault the votes dont count when she is equaly responsiable for the stituation. Its also shows a hudge lack of leadership by Howard Dean..It shold never have been allowed to get to this.
I actually agree with you that if they can they should hold new votes once the other contests are over and the should just do like the republicans did and give both state half a vote.. So other states know FL and Michigan are not being rewarded for breaking the rules.

Of the two Democratic presidents today, there is no comparison. Bill Clinton is by far more credible.
Carter – habitually meets with fringe and thugs. Clinton – a moderate who (in keeping with Presidential tradition) does not defy the current Administration.
Carter – associated to 9/11 conspiracy theorists (see Dershowitz article). Clinton – confronts these nuts, as such, when they heckle him.
Carter sure sets the bar low, but the Clintons are a class act, regardless.

Obama had his name removed from the Michigan ballot. He requested
that his name be removed in
Florida as well. Apparently, the
Republican-controlled state
legislature prevailed in keeping
his name on the ballot there. The
state would not remove it.
The Obama campaign has
scrupulously tried to comply
with the DNC rulings.

What a crusty old man. After she “gives it up” should she resort to talking with terrorists and making a spectacle of her self with those who wish us and our allies grave harm? Oh I am sorry thats what retired presidents who fail to get the release of hostages and come up with a lasting energy policy do. My bad!

With so much racism and hatred on Senator Obama, Senator Clinton who in their RIGHT MIND would want to be President of the Divided States of America……I give us about 10 more years when we have sold America to foreign country and THEN EVERY ONE WILL BE HAPPY WHEN WE ARE A DICTATORSHIP NATION…..LAST LAUGH ON US AMERICANS..

I sure hope President Carter is right very soon HC will give up – give up the Dem party to run as independent.

Kris,
Winning states in the primary is not the same as winning them in the general election. John McCain won all the states that you mentioned in the Republican primary. Michael Dukakis won most of the state that you mentioned (except MI), in fact he won 30 states. The polls had him way ahead of George HW Bush after the Democratic convention. Of course, Bush started campaigning against him, and Dukakis made some mistakes and were an uninspiring candidate. The rest was history.

McCain is currently right of center, but could be a centrist if he knew for certain he did have to pander to evangelicals to get elected. I say we take McCain, and tell him where he needs to bend. At the end of the day, this too is a business. If John knows this is unwinnable unless he makes a stand for the environment and the economy and stands up to those who wanted war (even for 5 more years), I think he’ll make a good President. Please do not elect Obama. He will be as weak as Jimmy Carter was. Lest you forget, here we were, the great America — held hostage by some idiots who got hold of planes. It didn’t happen again until George W, which ought to tell everyone something. You have to have a steel set to run that office. That’s why I love Hillary.

As a resident of the state of NY where Hillary is a Senator, I wouldn’t vote for her if I were paid to do so.
There is not enough money in the world to get me to vote that woman into the White House.

Senator Clinton won a victorious and triumphant LANDSLIDE victory in Florida.
The people who so desperately voted for her there will never tolerate their precious votes going to waste.
It is so obvious; the overwhealming tide of sexism has created a mountainous wave in the ocean of DEMOCRACY. Hillary, if you continue to fight for your justifiable right to claim Florida, which you won triumphantly with your effortless charm and courage, aplomb and character on the back of sheer hard work and love of your country, you will achieve what you strove so hard for. You will make America proud in the face of adversity.

I hope Hillary takes this all the way to the convention. The money was raised to revote in Michigan and Florida but Obama said no way. He knew he’d lose big in those 2 states so those 2 states voters mean nothing to him until the general election. He speaks of change and hope but isn’t any different than the rest of the big headed politicians.

Clinto agreed to disfranchise Florida and Michican becaue she thought she can win regardless.Now that she is losing, she wants Michican and Florida to be counted.. what a hypocracy!

It is a simple matter of observing the rules & principles agreed upon by all parties ahead of the primaries, PERIOD.
It is not a matter of dismissing women or taking away somebody’s rights.

When you hear some public figure or politician, regardless of who he or she is, trying to stoke anger or stir up public anger against the winner, it should be sufficient for you to understand the nature of that person.
The bottom line is Obama did not make the rules.
The rules were given to all and, all agreed & signed to it.
Now the loser wants to change the agreed & singed rules,stoking public anger to win, because now the loser has realized the rules did not suit her.
I think it is important not to create a precedence like this.
Those who left the race, lost it under the same rules.
Those who voted in every states voted under the same rule.
Rules & principles cannot change because it suits the loser who earlier agreed with the rules, thinking she was insurmountable.
Rules can be change but cannot be applied retroactively because it favors only one party & not all.

For those Clinton supporters that intend to vote for McCain if Obama steals the nomination by intimidating superdelegates, please vote Democratic for your congressional elections so that the DNC will learn not to force a presidential candidate down our throats again. And it puts the Kennedys (if he lives), Kerrys and Pelosis in the position of finally having to do something about the mess in this country. They were given a mandate in the last election but they have squandered their voter directive. It also prevents McCain from having the power that Bush enjoyed to continue the war and appoint conservative justices.

Rae, you seem to think that a vote for Obama is a vote against women?! Have you ever thought that people aren’t voting for Hillary because she has the personality of a snake, the temper of a bulldog, and is as self serving as a fat cat? A vote against Clinton is NOT a vote against women but a vote for not having a self-serving, self-caring PERSON in the white house. If Clinton was put in the white house then she would ruin it for all other women because would do such a bad job, and no one would ever vote for a women again.

Rae-
Exactly!!! If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination, then it is McCain for those of us that feel it is time to let Obama/Media/DNC know that we won’t stand quietly by and let this happen. Congress will be controlled by the Dems anyway so any fear mongering about Roe v Wade is a moot point.

It is hard to believe that some people are simply ignoring Obama’s lead of 162 in pledge delegates as if she is the one who has the lead of 162 pledge delegates, not him.
162 is a huge lead, Mrs. Clinton would have wished to have.
She would have definitely announced her victory by now with that kind of lead, if she really had one.
It is hard to believe that she is claiming to be victorious, though she is far behind in pledge delegates & popular votes.
She is behind by almost half million in popular votes besides being behind by 162 in pledged delegates.
What if she was really ahead like Obama is today, she would have been making fun of him, had he been asking to give him all the delegates from MI & FL.
It was a unanimous decision and agreed upon by all, including many of them who have left the race and, are now endorsing Obama like, Edwards, Bill Richardson, Dodd and more.
I think it is time to call it quits for her with grace.

Let’s turn all those arguments around that the Hillary camp insists on even making an argument. First, Obama is leading in all areas, period. But, regardless:
Any argument that this is a conspiracy against women running for or becoming president is ludicrous! Quoting the ludicrous argument from above:
“A vote for Obama is a vote against the rights of women. A vote for Obama is telling the world that we approve of the malicious way the media has treated Hillary. A vote for Obama tells every woman to go home and stop “stirring up trouble”. A vote for Obama questions the “audacity” of a woman who thinks she has the right to be the President of the United States. A vote for Obama tells our daughters they shouldn’t reach for the stars.”
Let’s turn that around:
“A vote for Hillary is a vote against the rights of all minorities. A vote for Hillary is telling the world that we approve of the malicious way the media has treated race and Obama. A vote for Hillary tells every minority to go home and stop “stirring up trouble”. A vote for Hillary questions the “audacity” of a minority who thinks s/he has the right to be the President of the United States. A vote for Hillary tells minority American citizens they shouldn’t reach for the stars.”
So, get off the soapbox. Obama has it won and it is NO conspiracy or ‘cover up’. If you choose to vote for McBush, it is your right. If you do so because you are vindictive, then it will be on your conscious and I wish you peace of mind and compassion, as it seems you are an angry person(s).

I really cant stand all this Clinton supporters for McCain and PUMA
CNN put the number of Clinton supporters for McCain and PUMA members at 200 000 in September/October down from its high of almost 5 Million.
CNN’s poll found the reason for the change:
Sarah Palin
John McCain’s handling of the economic crissis.
So enough of this PUMA stuff!