By Ed O'Keefe

May 23, 2008 3:43pm

Clinton Denies Exit Strategy Talks With Obama

ABC News’ Eloise Harper and Kate Snow Report: Sen. Hillary Clinton denies her campaign is in communication with Democratic nomination rival Sen. Barack Obama’s camp about an exit strategy from the presidential race that may include running on a joint Obama-Clinton ticket.

"That’s flatly untrue," Clinton, D-N.Y., said in an interview with the Argus Leader, South Dakota’s largest newspaper. "It is not anything I’m entertaining, it is nothing I have planned."

While Clinton continues to campaign aggressively in advance of the three remaining contests in Puerto Rico on June 1, South Dakota and Montana on June 3, Obama’s majority delegate lead presents a daunting task — and math — for the former first lady’s historic presidential bid.

Former President Bill Clinton, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to mind the idea of his wife as the vice president.

"He is definitely talking it up, making no secret it would be a strong ticket for Barack Obama," Stephanopoulos reported on "Good Morning America" Friday morning.

Bill Clinton believes that his wife has "earned the offer of vice president," Stephanopoulos said.

Obama, D-Ill., gave a noncommittal answer when pressed on the subject Thursday while campaigning in Boca Raton, Fla., saying he would be like Abraham Lincoln and consider his rivals for top administration jobs.

"I want to know if you’d consider everybody who is a possible help to you as a running mate," a Pompano Beach voter asked. "Even if his or her spouse is an occasional pain in the butt."

The candidate initially laughed off the query but then replied, "My goal is to have the best possible government. And that means me winning. So, I’m very practical in my thinking. I’m a practical guy."

User Comments

Obama would lose my vote if Hillary Clinton is anywhere near that ticket. Foxnews would have a blast.
Hillary carries too much of the 90s scandals and God knows what esle. Her terroist ties, Black panthers, the Mysterious death of those whom were to testify against the Clintons, the women, and the fraud cases.
Whomever is advising Obama should seriously think hard about putting Hillary on the ticket.

Posted by: Vanessa | May 23, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

HILLARY AS AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE ? YES !!!

Posted by: Paulus | May 23, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Would it matter if Clinton were the undisputed (or even disputed) popular-vote winner? That’s hard to say. The question is, matter to whom? The superdelegates will determine the nominee and there’s no telling what will sway them. They have no objective criteria from which to make their decisions. But if they were to deny the popular-vote champ the nomination, there is a real question of whether Democratic voters would reconcile themselves to the decision. As it is, much of the talk about Democratic defections in November has been overstated.

Posted by: JulesTX | May 23, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

We know that Barack has made a deal with people like Bill Richardson and John Eduards: support in exchange for future jobs.
But Hillary is different because she knows that she is far more qualified to be president… It is likely that this nomination process will go on for a while, I don’t see the issue of Florida and Michigan resolved because we have to demand that all the votes count!
In the end she will have the popular vote, so why not also ask will he want to be her VP? Although all these questions are pointless until we resolve the issue of the delegates. She will win the popular vote, he will win the pledged delegates. So it is in the hands of the superdelegates. My opinion is that given the fact that so many delegates has been won by a caucus process that is blatantly anti-democratic, the validity of the popular vote is stronger and the superdelegates must ensure that the popular vote is respected. If Barcak was white this is the likely outcome. But as Geraldine said if Barack was white he would not be where he is, so the superdelagates are likely to vote for him. This argument is not racist, but it is a complain against favoring race over gender, that is so blatantly used in favor of a black person and against a woman person. I hope that the leaders of the democratic party show that they are better than that and support Hillary!!

Posted by: ed | May 23, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Choosing Hillary as a running mate would GREATLY help to sooth ruffled feathers in the Hillary camp! Yes, we would rather Hillary be on top of the ticket but as my grandmother use to say: “The man may be the head of the (White) House but the woman is the neck that turns the head!” (And, maybe this is exaclty what Obama is afraid of…Hillary’s power?)

Posted by: Yvonne | May 23, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

It is this looming prospect which explains the tremendous pressure Obama partisans and the media are putting on Clinton to drop out of the race. They want her gone now because they understand that she has an excellent chance of finishing as the undisputed people’s choice. Hillary will be the nominee.

Posted by: Josephm | May 23, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Lost in the excitement of Barack Obama’s coronation this week was an inconvenient fact of Tuesday’s results: Hillary Clinton netted approximately 150,000 votes and is now poised to finish the primary season as the popular-vote leader. In some quaint circles, presumably, these things still matter.

Posted by: Melanie | May 23, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

HP Boston – grow up.

Posted by: Lynne | May 23, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Now why would Hillary want to be that fools VP? Shoot, even Ray Charles can see the GOP is in stitches that the Dems are going to nominate this ugachucker. Let him slip on the banana peel all by himself.

Posted by: PAmassacre | May 23, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Clinton’s path is both obvious and simple: Win the popular vote and force Barack Obama and his cheerleaders to explain why that doesn’t matter.

Posted by: Melanie | May 23, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

When 2.3 million votes in Floria and Michigan are counted and the primaries are finished, Clinton will be less than 40 delegates behind Obama but will have won the popular vote by a confortable margin.
Take it to the floor Hill!
Obama loses the electoral college by the way and Clinton wins it by a mile. Go to electoral-vote.com and see for yourself.
Clinton should be the dem nominee or dems don’t really want the white house that much.

Posted by: s.b. | May 23, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Well…you know the rest of the story: chads, lawsuits, Supreme Court briefs, outrage, heartbreak, regret. Mostly, though, the injustice of it all.
The injustice was wrenching. Our popular vote winner lost the White House over a handful of votes in the swing state of Florida even though he won more votes nationwide. There you have it. Reality sunk in and George Bush moved into Al’s house on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: Melanie | May 23, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

You all know what this means: A Republican presidency. WAKE THE F.UCK UP, DNC! WAKE THE F.UCK UP, SUPERS! Obama will lose in a landslide to McCain in November.

Posted by: JulesinTX | May 23, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

All this talk about exit strategy and vp position is clearly intended to sabotage Sen. Clinton’s campaign; she is winning the popular vote and on track to be the Democratic presidential nominee.
The uncommitted superdelegates will show wisdom, integrity and courage in using their independent judgment to select Sen. Clinton as the best qualified and strongest candidate to defeat McCain and win the general election without regard to any “delegate math”. Sen. Clinton will be the Democratic presidential nominee. Obama may very well be on her short list of candidates for the vp position.

Posted by: crat3 | May 23, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Melanie is exactly right. Hillary has won 7 out of the last 10 primaries and she netted 150,000 more votes than Obama on Tues. How can Obama keep delcaring himself the winner? It it so arrogant and downright rude. If Hillary is ahead in the popular vote after 6/3 and the electoral vote for the GE still favors her as much as it does right now, then let them have to explain why she shouldn’t be the nominee. I still think there is more to come out about the Obamas which will hurt them more with the GE.

Posted by: Susan | May 23, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

“The Democrats have a
thing that whoever gets the most rats wins.” Obama has been losing
steam since February and loses hugely in Kentucky so a few of the Super
Delegates declare for him. Huh, these goobers might be on to something.

Posted by: meritt | May 23, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

I’m one of those hard working middleclass white males voting for Obama, but if Clinton is on his ticket, forget it.

Posted by: William | May 23, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Ed – “We know that Barack has made a deal with people like Bill Richardson and John Eduards: support in exchange for future jobs. ” This may or may not be true. Do you have any proof?

Posted by: jmengate | May 23, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

If Obama is so much for “change” and is not part of the “system”, how could he not stand up to his own party for punishing MI/FLA for having the audacity of bucking the “system”? Answer: because he is PART of the system and won’t rock the cradle, just like Hillary! VOTE U.S. Constitution or Libertarian if you want REAL change!!! F##k Republicans and Democrats- they’re the same people selling us out!

Posted by: Abe | May 23, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Susan – “How can Obama keep delcaring himself the winner?” I actually have never heard Senator Obama declare this. Do you have somewhere you can direct me that quotes him saying that?

Posted by: jmengate | May 23, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Hillary is everything Obama is against. If he gives her VP (which I doubt), I will also not vote for him. I cannot picture this woman doing us or him any favors. She will make him look bad so she can run and win in 4 years. I can just see it now. He will be to busy fixing her crap to get the job done for us.

Posted by: Becky | May 23, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

I love these postings and wish the good folks of the DNC could read them all. Unfortunately, the media have been focusing on McCain and Obama as if this thing is over and it’s insulting. Hillary is still campaigning and will hopefully win more than the projectedd Puerto Rico. I would hope the good people of Montana and S Dakota have been tuning in and vote accordingly. Are they considered the same kind of small town people who cling to their guns and religion or are they hippy dippy dope smokin radicals…I don’t know.

Posted by: Debra | May 23, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

hillary as an independant
LOL
this is proof that her supporters are nuts
mccain wins if she does that

Posted by: bhrandon | May 23, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Clinton can deny anything she wants in public, but she is preparing to exit. Her campaign team has gone dead silent. They do not appear to be working on much of anything. Clinton knows it’s over and now she’s trying to figure out a way of getting on the ticket as VP. No one is supporting Clinton anymore, except a few Clinot-era supergelegates and some over-the-top feminist groups, who are boiling mad that Clinton (read: a woman) has lost and now want to blame it on “sexism.” This is, of course a ludicrous claim. Clinto lost because she made one strategic and tactical blunder after the other and becaus her hubris convinced her that she was the shoe-in nominee.

Posted by: Reality in America | May 23, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Man, oh, man……I really wanted to write to my local guy, Waxman, about going for Obama.
I did write him. I told him he was a sell out. And I would go protest in front of his office, but it would take too much gas to get there, and I have to get home by 2 to pick up the kid. LOL!
But, I wrote him anyway.

Posted by: Joe | May 23, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

The AP says BHO is 57 delegates away from Clinching the Nomination.
Just saying.
Hillary otoh needs to win over 90% of the remaining delegates to clinch.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 23, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

of course that is if all of hillarys people continue to stay with her mccain wins…
otherwise, pretty sure obama could pull it off

Posted by: bhrandon | May 23, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Hillary is toast – and those of you who perpetuate all this garbage about her winning the popular vote are on bad weed. So what? The popular vote was not an issue in caucus states – you may not like it but that is the way the rules are for the DNC. Maybe it can change next time but not this election. Give it up! Hillary’s own people said that it’s about the delegates (of course they said that right after being blown out in Iowa). Hillary said that Florida and Michigan shouldn’t count (of course that was before she was demolished in 11 straight primaries).
You’re all a bunch of sorry whiners.

Posted by: mike k | May 23, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Hillary is toast – and those of you who perpetuate all this garbage about her winning the popular vote are on bad weed. So what? The popular vote was not an issue in caucus states – you may not like it but that is the way the rules are for the DNC. Maybe it can change next time but not this election. Give it up! Hillary’s own people said that it’s about the delegates (of course they said that right after being blown out in Iowa). Hillary said that Florida and Michigan shouldn’t count (of course that was before she was demolished in 11 straight primaries).
You’re all a bunch of sorry whiners.

Posted by: mike k | May 23, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

At the end of the day, if Hillary goes Indie, you give the whitehouse back to the arses that are in it now – because that’s what you’re going to get with McCain.

Posted by: Ryan | May 23, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Well, I would be offended with Hillary as the VP. She should be top of the ticket and not take second to an extremely unqualified man. I don’t think Obarfbag wants her and she should care less becuase he is such a joke.

Posted by: JuleTX | May 23, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Hillary as VP has one and only one advanantage. She would save the Democratic party.
Really, if she would go for the VP, it would be a sheer sacrifice for her lifelong devotion to our party.
She would save the Democratic party from disintegrating.
He’s insane to think otherwise.
NONE of us wants to see her as VP. She’s so heads above him, it will make us grate our teeth at night.
However, I do understand the principle.
She will save the Democratic party from splintering beyond repair.
Now, I have watched him on the FL/MI deal.
I don’t think he gives a damn.
I think he’ll splinter the party.
and here’s why.
To lose as the first AA guy, he’s picturing all those “victim” interpretations.
He’d rather lose than win.
He has no real interest in people. He isn’t driven by passion for people.
He’s drive by his OWN passion……to be the first AA guy.
He’d rather lose than win if it requres any real compromise or work.
We’ve all gotten that message by now.
He’s a crappy, crappy politician who wouldn’t compromise for the good of the country, nevemind the party.
He’ll destroy the Democrats rather than compromise. I’m sure about that.
But I never thought he was really a Dem. He’s run a 3rd party campaign all along.
He just robbed the logo.

Posted by: Stan | May 23, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

s.b.: OMG, why do you people not get it. FL and MI can not be counted, they broke the rules.
EVERYONE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT TO THIS. INCLUDING HILLARY!
So what all the Hillary people are saying to me is that you are no better than her, you will cheat and steal to get your way???
I would not want to be you, your friend, or your boss.

Posted by: Becky | May 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Dem for MC Cain go for it ,if you are stupid enought to go through 4 more years of this sh– vote for him./..At least we have an education to know what a mess this country is in and will stay in…….

Posted by: older person | May 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

“if they were to deny the popular-vote champ the nomination, there is a real question of whether Democratic voters would reconcile themselves to the decision. …”
If popular vote is the criteria, Hillary Clinton is already the nominee.
That is the problem: Obama’s electoral numbers have been declining since February. They will continue to fall as hers continue to increase in the face of the Obama chumps trash talking while McCain supporters wrap themselves in the flag.
If this goes all the way to the nomination, and he continues to fall, then August is the end game for the Dems. That leaves Hillary as the only viable option for the top slot.
On the other hand, pick her as soon as the last vote is cast in Puerto Rico and there is a chance of salvaging this situation. Don’t do it and the Democrats as they splinter will look for someone to blame and that will be Dean and Pelosi. Other side effects will follow particularly in Pelosi’s district where she has convinced very powerful donors to back Obama with the promise that he will be elected.
It’s time to deal.

Posted by: len | May 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Don’t worry, folks, there s no way Hillary and Obama would be on one ticket. She has to win the Nomination first, but if she does, she has already picked her running mate.

Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Obama would ahve to look over his shoulder for the duration of his presidency if Clinton was on “his” team!

Posted by: jozy | May 23, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Stan – Ok, I don’t get it. How does winning more delegates equate to robbing an election? Isn’t that why we have them in the first place? ie so people can vote?

Posted by: jmengate | May 23, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

I need to ask you a favor. The argument about electability is not sinking in with SD. There seems to be in SD a feeling that the Obama nomination is unstoppable and that it is a fait accomplit. In other words they are buy the media and Obama campaign perception that there is no way Obama can be denied the nomination at this point; that it would be “unfair”. We all know that is bullshit

Posted by: JulesTX | May 23, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Stan *—–her stupid Hubby started this Not Obama would be a BIG midstake to put her name on the ticket she would loose it for him to much dirty baggage one being BILLY.

Posted by: older person | May 23, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

hillary. hey hillary. snap out of it. hillary. HEY. hillary. HEY. WAKE UP. HILLARY! HEY HILLARY WAKE UP!
YOU LOST!

Posted by: JJ | May 23, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

HILLARY IS WINNING ALL BUT YOUNGS AND BLACKS
hillary can get youngs and blacks in GENERAL ELECTION (because they do feel bad having to choose between clinton and a black guy)
so they will back hillary
but latinos—asians–jews–catholics–women–seniors will not back OBAMA

Posted by: Kim | May 23, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Do those who claim Hillary can or will still win the nomination realize she must win 90 percent of the remaining delegates to do so? Not going to happen, folks.
It was a tough race between two good candidates, but it’s almost over. Their policies are very similar, their personalities are not.
Clinton supporters will have to decide whether revenge is sweet enough to vote for someone who does not share your candidate’s policies.
At the end of the day, cutting off your nose to spite your face is childish. Even Hillary will back Obama when the primary ends. Why should you not follow the person you admire so much?

Posted by: louielouie | May 23, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Mike K…that’s right…11 straight wins BEFORE: Wright, Rezko, Hamas, Ayers, angry Michelle, and all the rest THAT WILL BE REVISITED IN THE GENERAL. No one is going to forget the famous “I could no sooner disown my Pastor/Uncle” and three weeks later kicking him to the curb for all his hate filled rhetoric which is common Black Liberation Theology. Only the young and delusional think he’s gonna “change” anything in Washington. I don’t want an advisor driven Presidency with 10 times the secret service men being paid by us.

Posted by: Debra | May 23, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

You know Boston count the islands and the out lining territories and see what you come up with.HAHA stupid you think you know your historyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Posted by: h | May 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

“Millions of us cannot vote BO, even if Jesus H. Christ was Obama’s running mate.”
Under no circumstances? Why?
Hillary keeps saying she is winning the popular vote. People just swallow, and believe it. Look it up people! SHE DOES NOT! Hill only wins in metrics made up by her.
I know america’s women desperately want to see a woman president in theyr lifetime. But we should wait for the right woman!!
You guys should think about this: Why is she so desperate to get in the white house? What obligations does she have to pay off?

Posted by: Jennifer | May 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

The rules committee needs to hear this. Their decision will be swayed by it. They will keep Hillary in the game so she can fight it out and snag the nomination in Denver.
The MSM and trolls won’t be able to stop Hillary. She will have until August to travel the country and make her case as Obama circulates down the drain. America is wise to him now!

Posted by: Stan | May 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

louielouie…because it is not all about policies. It is the highest office in our country and we want to deliver that to someone we LIKE, believe in, trust, and so on. NO BO.

Posted by: Debra | May 23, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Obama’s not electable. Isn’t that what Clinton keeps saying?
But wait, I say, then why is he currently winning the election?

Posted by: electable | May 23, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Obama? No way? He and his pastor need to be in jail.Both of them deserve, at the least, to be in prison for life. In a normal, non-Twilight Zone world, they would have both been executed for treason and amking war on the US during a time of war (Vietnam war).

Posted by: Soho | May 23, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

No more Clintons in the White House, or in the number two slot. Especially Hillary, who advocates totally obliterating an entire people. Thus, making her no better than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who called for the destruction of Israel.

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Debra, you should like your friends, but you should pick a president who can keep us out of war and balance the budget. A lot of people thought George W. was likable. Look where that got us.

Posted by: louielouie | May 23, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Obama’s rise to prominence illustrates, perhaps more than anything else, the ignorance of so much of the electorate. I refuse to believe that he has become a presidential front-runner because those who support him agree with his ideology. America hasn’t fallen so far that nearly half of the electorate is willing to pasionately support black liberation theology and Marxist doctrine.

Posted by: Joseph | May 23, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

What have you been smoking, Melanie?

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

An strategy with a looser is a loos fight. Obama is ignorant and incapable. We dont want a wanna be Ricky Martin in the White House. The only other viable explanation for his popularity is that the huge majority of his supporters have no clue about what lies beneath the surface of this dangerous man. Which provides even more compelling evidence that the consistent ‘Get out the vote!’ campaigns actually serve something of a negative purpose. Those who walk into the voting booth completely unaware of the ideology of those for whom they vote would do our republic a favor by staying home

Posted by: Joseph | May 23, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Obama is truly Satan’s candidate. Hopefully this long campaign will allow time for exposing his heart and soul to the American people.

Posted by: Soho | May 23, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

live in California in the North Hollywood area, I don’t know anyone in my area who will vote for Barack Obama. I live in a rather mixed area mostly Hispanic, some African Americans, very few whites. I have not seen even one sign for Barack Obama. If Hillary isn’t the nominee I see no reason to support the Democrats in this Presidental Election. Even if they try to give Hillary the V.P. spot I won’t be able to vote for Obama. I think we will be alright with John McCain at the helm with a stronger congress and Senate. Hillary can run again.

Posted by: Soraya | May 23, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

I want to thank the Hillary bots and their assorted racist friends who are posting here, for once again proving why having Hillary on the Democratic Party ticket would be the most divisive and dumbest decision the Democratic Party could conceivably make.

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Reagan Democrat from Southern California reporting for duty. I do not have one, I repeat, NOT ONE person that I know of, Republican or Democrat that will vote for Barack. Not a single one…..It’s amazing, but true! And the majority of Republicans will vote for Hillary over McCain. Much of my family included.

Posted by: Soraya | May 23, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Obama, despite his wonderful oratory, isn’t close to being qualified to be president. Hillary, on the other hand, is well qualified AND has the best leader in recent memory as her husband. Nominating Obama would basically hand the election to McCain, who is unlikely to last more than 2-3 years. Hence the problem then becomes McCain’s VP candidate, which is likely to be Minnesota’s Governor Tim Pawlenty. He makes Ronald Reagan look like a bleading heart liberal. COnsidering the ramifications of continuing to give serious consideration to an Obama candidacy, we should ask HIM politely to withdraw and let Hillary select someone qualified to be her VP.

Posted by: Kevin | May 23, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

No he hasn’t been trying to quit but he damned sure hasn’t been running a campaign that would allow him to win in November. His campaign is strictly to beat, destroy Hillary. I don’t even think he cares if he wins the white house as long as Hillary never gets to step foot in it. I think he is about the total destruction of the democratic party.

Posted by: Joseph | May 23, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

We just can’t stomach the guy (and it’s not a racial argument). Some of us come from 3rd world countries & his political style is definitely not alien to us. We love this country, and we will not let it get it ruined by politically & morally inept persons some of us the main reason why we left our countries for the promise of America) like Obama (. As citizens of this country, we cannot let this happen.

Posted by: WorryAsian | May 23, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Melanie, whatever that weed is that you’re smoking, it must be really powerful.

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Bill is “stirring the pot”, keeping the focus on Hillary and the pressure on Obama.
Obama, by the way, when asked the same running mate question a week or two ago had this answer in regard to Hillary as a possibility, “Well, Hillary is qualified to be Vice President.” I sure hope a lot of women heard that arrogant, condescending answer. Just consider the source …

Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

I’m not suprised that McCain can beat Obama in CA. I live in CA, I’m not registered to the DNC or RNC and I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not on the ballot.
This is a NO BRAINER.
And the latinos who are a big part of the democratic base here will also vote en masse for McCain should the DNC nominate Obama.
Arnold (Terminator) our gov. is a very good friend of McCain and will campaign very hard for him.
If Obama and the DNC think they can make us change our mind before the GE, they will be in for a big surprise. We folks just do not want this guy as president. Why are they so stubborn to not understand that?

Posted by: Jews Democrats against Obama | May 23, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Another reason Hillary should not accept the VP spot is that if many kolks just couldn’t accept him as THE president and would still vote against him.
If this happened, who do you think they will blame for the loss? I’ll give you a hint…it won’t be Obama.

Posted by: JulesTX | May 23, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

There is a very good reason why Hillary is so divisive, and it is also the same reason why she has such concrete support from her female base. Hillary is a bitter scorned woman who was humiliated on the national stage by her philandering husband. She has an ax to grind with the male population of this country and that is why she is not about to capitulate to Obama. This is the same reason that her supporters will not relent, this core group of women are also bitter at their place in this country and what they have had to go through; Hillary is the perfect vehicle to project this anger. They too have been humiliated by men, feel unappreciated, and have a score to settle. They make this sound like this is about advancing women’s rights, but this is merely an excuse to get some payback. Women tend to harbor grudges much longer than men, and this is their opportunity to feel vindicated. I truly believe this is misplaced, Hillary is not the woman they should choose as their microphone. She has proven time and time again that she will take whatever position benefits her. She has acted as an enabler for unashamed womanizer and sexual predator for decades; never once conceding that these women that Bill used are the exact women she is professing to battle for. While it is understandable that her supporters are hungry for their place at the table, maybe they should more closely examine their Captain Ahab.

Posted by: Doug | May 23, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Soraya wrote: “It’s amazing, but true! And the majority of Republicans will vote for Hillary over McCain. Much of my family included.”
Does that make Hillary a Republican?

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Hillary, is and always has been a first CLASS LADY,
and then the idea of her accepting second place, especially after the way Obama and the DNC has treated her, to save the Democrates Party, fuc*and feed them fish.
LADY HILLARY! Your far to good for the DEMOCRAPS! I never believed money is the problem. Not for the Clintons and they know it. Third Party Candidate and we will shock the WORLD !!

Posted by: THIRD PARTY | May 23, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

“Obama supporters are sexist and violent.”
…. and anti-white (the black ones anyways), and anti-Jew, and glassey-eyed, and bamboozled and caught up in the rhetoric of a crooked liar to the point that they have shut off their brains.
OBAMA LISTEN UP – If you are reading this – I’ll never vote for you. Even if Hillary is your VP. She’s too qualified to walk behind you. And don’t bother blaming it on alleged racism on my part .. it’s because of YOUR racism (and empty rhetoric, and lies, and corruption).

Posted by: Emily Picket | May 23, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Please people, how could any democrat vote for McBush? Please stop the drama & look at his record – he is clearly not an alternate choice for a progressive. We need to unify around one candidate to take the white house!

Posted by: Jon | May 23, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

A bunch of folks are going to have to wake up. I have given the max in money to Senator Clinton, voted for her in Mississippi, and admire her. But she is going to become the Ralph Nader of 2008 if she does not recognize the inevitable and step aside very soon. Because:
1. The rules for the nomination have been known forever and the Clintons had plenty of say about them. The “popular vote” is a myth, what counts is delegates. And the only reason HC claims to have more of the popular vote is that she counts Michigan, where she was the only person on the ballot.
2. Just because white working class voters are choosing HC over BO does NOT mean they would vote for Hillary over McCain. Nor does it mean that putting HC on the ticket would cause those voters to support the Democratic ticket. Obama needs to pick someone who will have some attraction to working class folks in Virginia, NC, Pennsyvania, and Ohio. That means someone like Webb of Virginia, Casey of PA, or Strickland from Ohio. If you think pulling female voters from al over is the way, then maybe Gov. Sabelius from Kansas.
3. DO WE WANT McCAIN TO BE PRESIDENT?? Do we want an Iraq War until 2013, more tax money going to the rich, no investment in infrastructure? Come on, people, we lost the nomination to a fine candidate, and it’s time to pull together and try to win the election for the people.

Posted by: Jim | May 23, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Melanie wrote: “Why should she withdraw in May when past contents extended into June and up to the convention?”
Perhaps, because it would be the wise and logical thing to do, given the math!

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Every time Bill says he thinks Hillary should be Vice President, what do you think happens to Michelle’s blood pressure and anger. And what do you think she says (and I am being charitable here as I don’t think she is very mild-mannered) to her husband at night, either over dinner, or later? Can you think of one word she might use to refer to either Hillary or Bill?

Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Unity? He just divorced his pastor, mentor, uncle, adviser and lover. Now, he is marrying Hillary. Please !!

Posted by: Kiki | May 23, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

I have done a tremendous amount of research on Obama. HILLARY is clearly the ‘smart’ choice.What she said was simply (put into words you can understand) ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. That’s all. As for the Kennedy’s being ticked off? You must be kidding right? The Kennedy’s have done way more to hurt our country than the Clinton’s ever could. WAKE UP AMERICA. Hillary can beat McCain – Obama can’t. I am a democrat and I will never vote for Obama. I’m not alone in this either. Not even if Hillary is offered the VP. I won’t vote for Obama in any way. Never

Posted by: JulesTX | May 23, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

BTW Melanie, it’s contests not “contents.”

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Hillary has the key to the White House. Either she gets in there, herself or she can let Obama or McCain in. Obama will never be President without her approval.He can’t blame her with his crooked attitude, with David Plouffe’s relentless false attacks on her. He said she wanted to win at any cost while his camp had over spent her 3 to 1. Without resolving Florida and Michigan, Obama will not ever be,even a Vice President. He will leave the race with a surplus of money like John Kerry. That’s all. If Democrats want someone who can bring prosperity back, it’s Hillary. If they let Howard Dean gets his way, they will lose a quarter of century. The problem is that they know she can easily win against McCain. And they don’t want that. They hate her and that’s wrong.

Posted by: neut | May 23, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

HILLARY, PUT THE BIG LOYAL HOUND BACK ON THE PORCH…YOU CAN STILL WIN THE NOMINATION AND BEAT McCAIN!

Posted by: Di | May 23, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

JulesTX, when you publish that “tremendous amount of research” let us know. We would like to read it.

Posted by: Character Counts | May 23, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Hillary as VP has one and only one advantage. She would save the Democratic party.
Really, if she would go for the VP, it would be a sheer sacrifice for her lifelong devotion to our party.
She would save the Democratic party from disintegrating.
He’s insane to think otherwise.
NONE of us wants to see her as VP. She’s so heads above him, it will make us grate our teeth at night.
However, I do understand the principle.
She will save the Democratic party from splintering beyond repair.
Now, I have watched him on the FL/MI deal.
I don’t think he gives a damn.
I think he’ll splinter the party.
and here’s why.
To lose as the first AA guy, he’s picturing all those “victim” interpretations.
He’d rather lose than win.
He has no real interest in people. He isn’t driven by passion for people.
He’s drive by his OWN passion……to be the first AA guy.
He’d rather lose than win if it requres any real compromise or work.
We’ve all gotten that message by now.
He’s a crappy, crappy politician who wouldn’t compromise for the good of the country, nevemind the party.
He’ll destroy the Democrats rather than compromise. I’m sure about that.
But I never thought he was really a Dem. He’s run a 3rd party campaign all along.
He just robbed the logo.

Posted by: Stan | May 23, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Love ya Hillary but even having you on the ticket won’t get me to vote for Obama!

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 23, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

I think that Hillary would be a disaster as VP candidate to be honest. I think partly all of this is a Bill Clinton ego trip to keep his name in the headlines.
One of the reasons that Obama has attracted votes is that its an opportunity to move beyond the Clinton years for the Democratic Party, and have Hillary on the ticket would ruin that. And all Clinton’s hot air just hinders Obama as whoever he picks will be compared to Hillary.
Mind you its the first time I have heard something directly coming from either Clinton that seems to accept that she isn’t going to win.

Posted by: markymark | May 23, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

For those of you who seem to “know” how the Republicans, Democrats and independents will vote this fall — where exactly do you get that information, from your family and five closest friends.
As I recall, even professional polling agencies and experienced pundits have been proven wrong again and again this campaign.
It will be interesting to see how our prognosticators fare in November. You can’t all be right….

Posted by: louielouie | May 23, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Are you all stupid. by the time this is over Hillary cant even get on the ballot in all 50 states as an independent. Everyone here likes talk about they wont support Obama. Your all stupid! You really think they are that much different. If Mccain is closer alligned with hillary then hillary SHOULDNT be running on the DEM tickets. You Dems always blow my mind. Fighting over STUPID things. This race is over. PLAIN AND SIMPLE> Hillary is playing her way to VP or some other position. I hope she does win. JM will beat her too. Obama puts more red states in play. Pick Jim Webb as VEEP and he’ll beat JM in a landslide. Pick hillary and JM wins. Hillary is a divide and conquer politican. GOod luck dems.

Posted by: Make it all stop | May 23, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Who is stilling the Nomination Clinton or Obama?
As we all were concerned Hillary started her run for presidency before Obama even knew what he is going to have following day for a supper.
It was supposed to be her year.
All Clinton Supporters were happy, particularly women, for we wanted to see a woman as a president of US .
Then Obama came from nowhere , he might have as well said ,
well I am not going to let you have it , I want to see no woman as president so I am going to run for president as well….
SO HERE WE QUESTEN WHO IS EXACTLY TRYING TO STILL NOMINATIONM
So why do we dislike Obama , because Hillary was the only woman on horizon ever , and there is no other one coming .
Also Obama could have waited for a few years, he is young, but no he wanted to destroy first ever chance of woman becoming a president, but in 8 years time Hillary will be to old .
Hillary is not just a woman, she is also a woman is experienced, a woman that stood by ex president who run the strongest economy in history of America.
So if She could not make it, how on earth any other woman will?????
OBAMA MADE SURE THERE WILL BE NO WOMAN EVER AS PRESIDENT
If she was younger then I would not mind him intercepting her nomination, but now Hillary clan would never forgive him and never vote for him
A thief who stole nomination

Posted by: jane | May 23, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Who is stilling the Nomination Clinton or Obama?
As we all were concerned Hillary started her run for presidency before Obama even knew what he is going to have following day for a supper.
It was supposed to be her year.
All Clinton Supporters were happy, particularly women, for we wanted to see a woman as a president of US .
Then Obama came from nowhere, he might have as well said,
“well I am not going to let you have it , I want to see no woman as president so I am going to run for president as well….”
SO HERE WE QUESTEN WHO IS EXACTLY TRYING TO STILL NOMINATIONM
So why do we dislike Obama , because Hillary was the only woman on horizon ever , and there is no other one coming .
Also Obama could have waited for a few years, he is young, but no he wanted to destroy first ever chance of woman becoming a president, but in 8 years time Hillary will be to old .
Hillary is not just a woman, she is also an experienced woman , a woman that stood all this years by ex president who run the strongest economy in history of America.
So if she could not make it, how on earth any other woman will?????
OBAMA MADE SURE THERE WILL BE NO WOMAN EVER AS PRESIDENT
If she was younger then I would not mind him intercepting her nomination, but now Hillary clan would never forgive him and never vote for. N E V E R
Whe will be always seen as A THIEF who stole nom

Posted by: jane | May 23, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Who is stilling the Nomination Clinton or Obama?
As we all were concerned Hillary started her run for presidency before Obama even knew what he is going to have following day for a supper.
It was supposed to be her year.
All Clinton Supporters were happy, particularly women, for we wanted to see a woman as a president of US .
Then Obama came from nowhere, he might have as well said,
“well I am not going to let you have it , I want to see no woman as president so I am going to run for president as well….”
SO HERE WE QUESTEN WHO IS EXACTLY TRYING TO STILL NOMINATIONM
So why do we dislike Obama , because Hillary was the only woman on horizon ever , and there is no other one coming .
Also Obama could have waited for a few years, he is young, but no he wanted to destroy first ever chance of woman becoming a president, but in 8 years time Hillary will be to old .
Hillary is not just a woman, she is also an experienced woman , a woman that stood all this years by ex president who run the strongest economy in history of America.
So if she could not make it, how on earth any other woman will?????
OBAMA MADE SURE THERE WILL BE NO WOMAN EVER AS PRESIDENT
If she was younger then I would not mind him intercepting her nomination, but now Hillary clan would never forgive him and never vote for. N E V E R
he will be always seen as A THIEF who stole nomination from a woman

Posted by: jane | May 23, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

I’m tired of hearing this “if you count Michigan and Florida” argument.
OBAMA WASN’T EVEN ON THE TICKET IN MICHIGAN…so how can you say that if you add those votes, she wins the popular vote? Nobody in Michigan had the option of voting for him. How stupid are you people?

Posted by: Greg | May 23, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Who is stilling the Nomination Clinton or Obama?
As we all were concerned Hillary started her run for presidency before Obama even knew what he is going to have following day for a supper.
It was supposed to be her year.
All Clinton Supporters were happy, particularly women, for we wanted to see a woman as a president of US .
Then Obama came from nowhere, he might have as well said,
“well I am not going to let you have it , I want to see no woman as president so I am going to run for president as well….”
SO HERE WE QUESTEN WHO IS EXACTLY TRYING TO STILL NOMINATIONM
So why do we dislike Obama , because Hillary was the only woman on horizon ever , and there is no other one coming .
Also Obama could have waited for a few years, he is young, but no he wanted to destroy first ever chance of woman becoming a president, but in 8 years time Hillary will be to old .
Hillary is not just a woman, she is also an experienced woman , a woman that stood all this years by ex president who run the strongest economy in history of America.
So if she could not make it, how on earth any other woman will?????
OBAMA MADE SURE THERE WILL BE NO WOMAN EVER AS PRESIDENT
If she was younger then I would not mind him intercepting her nomination, but now Hillary clan would never forgive him and never vote for. N E V E R
he will be always seen as A THIEF who stole nomination from a woman

Posted by: jane | May 23, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

The Obama campaign leaks “worst-case scenarios” to prepare voters for their dismissal of Hillary as VP, and undermining her campaign in the last state elections. It’s more of the same: Marginalization of Hillary, suggesting Hillary is not truthful when she says the campaing will continue to June (maybe longer) and another way they can tell 50% of the voters Hillary is not their VP. They will regret it, Hillary should go to the convention and show Obama what a “Obama worst-case-scenario” looks like: Hillary 08!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 23, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

by the same token hillary would have been viewed as the women who didnt allow a black man president.

Posted by: Make it all stop | May 23, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Hillary is winning and she will be the nominee.Obama will be her running mate.

Posted by: Moe | May 23, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

All talk about Hillary that she is an evil person is not true.I saw her on
teevee talking about her spiritual side of
life and she is a very spiritual person.

Posted by: Moe | May 23, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

hitler was very spiritual as well. They have lots in common. Hillary CANT win. and on June 3rd all you stupid morons will see that. ALL SUPERDELEGATES WILL VOTE OBAMA. GOOD NIGHT. GAME OVER. GET OVER IT. you cannot go back to the scandals of the 90′s Clinton confirmed what everyone suspected about politicans. THEY ARE CROOKED LIARS. lets go back to that…..STUPID PEOPLE

Posted by: Make it all stop | May 23, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Is it possible between now and November to post commnents without Probloggers hijacking every space in the so called the so called “free press”? Tinted comments! It’s hallirious. Normal people get deleted.I guess was nice posting once. it’s all fixed.

Posted by: comicrelief | May 23, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Lets all hope and pray that Hillary will get out and go home. Not in NY either, back where she came from. She failed New Yorkers when she gave our jobs to others outside our United States. Could you imagin what will take place when she’s in office. She is only for the votes of the WORKING CLASS, what about all the voters who have the right to vote. If she doesn’t want to count my vote then she wont get my vote, I am disabled and can’t work, dose that mean I am to stay home and not vote, she can just forget me voting for her, I would not want to waist my time or vote on her anyway. I agree with Melanie, I wouldn’t want her for VP either, she would have Obama murdered just so that she could be President and run America farther into the ground. Aren’t we already in dept over our heads anyway. She would have us claim bankruptcy. LOL I am praying to God that Obama wouldn’t pick her for VP, if he does I will not vote for him either.She needs to clean up her personnal messes first, like give back NY OUR JOBS,RETURN THE ITEMS SHE HAS STOLEN FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, AND ANY OTHER PERSONAL THINGS IN HER LIFE, RETURN ANY BARROWED MONEY, BEFORE SHE CLEANS UP ANYBODY ELSES MESSES. REMEMBER EVERONES VOTE COUNTS NOT MATTER WHAT HILLARY SAYS, BLACK, WELFARE, DISABLED,LOW PAYING CLASS PEOPLE TOO.

Posted by: cheryllynn | May 23, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

I like the comment from(Make it all stop) good choice of words. I also agree with Debra, Hillary supporters are nuts and i would love to add that they are stupid if they want THAT WOMAN in office in November. We would be better having me in office LOL, and I don’t know a dam thing about anything just like Hillary, she doesn’t keep her promises, I wonder??????? how many times she made Chelsey cry when ever she broke a promise to her. She probably slapped her and sent her to bed w/out cookies and milk.LOL Hay i would like a personnal feedback.

Posted by: cheryllynn | May 23, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Moe What spiritual side are you talking about, she said her favorite Bible Character was Easther, When a reporter asked her what was it the interested you most about Eashter, Hillary couldn’t give an answer. That not a spiritual person to me. A spiritual person doesn’t lie, beg or steal and I know from what I’ve read and commented with others that is the person she is. Do you REALLY WANT THAT KIND OF PERSON IN OFFICE? I rather have an honest person and lets face it ALL Politions are liars. All they want is to be the big wig but don’t want to take care of you and I, the lower class working or disabled person.

Posted by: cheryllynn | May 23, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Neither one should have the other for VP. Hillary should go home and back some cookies. As far as Bill is concerned all he wants is to get another blue dress stained, or maybe it might be a dress of a differnt color. All I know It wont be Hillay’s LOL, Wouldn’t be nice to have an honest Politician in office and get America back on her feet? We are so far in the dept is there anyway out? Who ever gets in office really needs to have their head on straight or we are really doomed. Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing a White or Black woman in the White house for President or VP, just not Hillary. Study her history and Obama’s history and I wouldn’t mind having a black person MALE OR FEMALE as Pres: or Vice Pres:. Just as long as they will be willing to be honest, faithful to all citizens, and Education for all children. No child left behind should be one of the top priority for the President and Vic President.

Posted by: cheryllynn | May 24, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

The truth is, that hillary is winning, she is ahead in the votes and she is the real nominee. Hussein Obama should surrender and step down, He will never be president of the USA.

Posted by: Moe | May 24, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

To All Hillary Fans!
The entire country just got a peek into a twisted and desparate mind. The republicans have known for a long time what the Clintons are about and that Hillary would stop at nothing to become the next president.
More than half of the democrats now see the real Hillary, which leaves just a dwindling number of hard core Clinton cult members left to drink their Kool Aid when their devine leader tells them the comet has appeared.
For all those Clinton cult members who say they will vote for McCain in November, go ahead, good riddence to you! You want to know the really funny thing about this? If Obama does lose a close general election to McCain, I would still rather see McCain as president rather than a Clinton!!
Obama 08!!!!

Posted by: Davis | May 24, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am

It is amazing how many Americans are not ready for the ineveitable change that is taking place. We went through this same process before when Jews, Asians,and Blacks were allowed to intergrate the major institutions in this country. Some groups appear to think it was just the Blacks being let in. Barack Obama has already done an outstanding job managing a winning campaign. After the recent comment about
RFK, I am convinced that Senator Clinton
will not be ready on day one. When Democrats and Senator Obama lead us into victory I hope we can consider this
experience as a lesson learned that all men are truly created equal. Thank you
older person for your input in this conversation.

Posted by: Rico | May 24, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Doug, that’s my take too. I can’t believe these so called feminists give Bill Clinton a free pass after all his philandering and are instead pillorying women who support Obama as misogynists and traitors.
I’m 54 and I know all about sexism, this voter has free will and thinks Obama is the best choice to win in November.
Why Hillary puts up with that jerk is her choice but that doesn’t mean we have to accept his behavior too.
***
There is a very good reason why Hillary is so divisive, and it is also the same reason why she has such concrete support from her female base. Hillary is a bitter scorned woman who was humiliated on the national stage by her philandering husband. She has an ax to grind with the male population of this country and that is why she is not about to capitulate to Obama. This is the same reason that her supporters will not relent, this core group of women are also bitter at their place in this country and what they have had to go through; Hillary is the perfect vehicle to project this anger. They too have been humiliated by men, feel unappreciated, and have a score to settle. They make this sound like this is about advancing women’s rights, but this is merely an excuse to get some payback.

Posted by: CitizenVoter | May 25, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Senator Clinton: Good advice for you from Shakespeare (Macbeth): “Stand not on the order of your going, but go at once.”

Posted by: Tom in California | May 26, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am

WAKE UP PEOPLE AND SEE THE LIGHT IF A WOMAN CAN RUN YOUR HOUSE HOLD.HILLARY CAN RUN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IT’S BIGGER THAN YOUR HOUSE.
GO HILLARY

Posted by: LIL_GRANNY | May 26, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

The Situation in Florida was planned and for anyone that can’t see that needs a new pair of glasses. The Dem’s allowed the Reps to spoon feed them into changing the primary dates. Just another back room deal…… Apathy is all it takes….

Posted by: MJR | May 27, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

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