Clinton: ‘It’s Not Over Until the Lady in the Pantsuit Says It Is’
ABC News’ Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton spoke in Grafton, W.Va., on Mother’s Day with her daughter by her side. Clinton read a few messages from supporters who urged her to continue her bid for the presidency.
"’Keep strong,’ she said. ‘It’s not over until the lady in the pantsuit says it is,’" Clinton said, reading what she said was her favorite message.
Another one she read said: "Keep fighting. No matter what the outcome may be, the fact that you stood throughout the constant ups and downs of this race -– one things is sure –- you never wavered and you never gave up."
"’Don’t give up. I’m supporting you looking at my girls and knowing that when the going gets tough, you keep forging ahead,’" Clinton said, as she continued to read the messages she’d received. "A Californian wrote, ‘For the sake of our future and mothers everywhere, keep your head up, keep going in this race, keep fighting. I’m with you all the way.’"
Clinton thanked women who came before her and spoke about being a young trial lawyer. She later appealed to the audience, saying, "I am asking for your support so I can continue to fight for you."
Earlier today Clinton went to church and prayed with her daughter. She did not speak at the church, as she has in the past. Clinton has one more event in Charleston, W.Va. this evening.
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Uh, it’s over… It looks like Bush’s state of denial is infecting Hilliary.
Posted by: blog | May 11, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
she asking for support but
no body investing in her
what she fight for
she fight for herself
not for you
Posted by: dead duck | May 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
It’s not over until the voters have spoken in the fall.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Well, I thought her campaign didn’t have a prayer, but I guess it has only a prayer.
Posted by: krashing | May 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Hillary is a patriot who is speaking for the people and for herself as well.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 11, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
If Obama is the shoo-in that he and everyone elese predicts, why cant they count the votes of MI and FL fairly? After all, the DNC did nothing to stop those states from voting before hand which goes against the rules and therfore they do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to punishing those states by removing their votes. Lets wait and see before we count the lady out.
Posted by: al | May 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Obama learned his politics from Rezco, Ayers and Rev Wright and his church and he has no experience.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 11, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Reality check:
==============
It’s not over until the candidate
reaches the 2209 delegates.
None of them has reached the number.
At this point the party is divided.
Democrats are divided for lots of
reasons.
Race is the primary reason.
Nobody wants to talk about race,
because they be called RACISTS.
The true is all of us are racists to a certain degree.
Blacks are racists.
Whites are racists.
They don’t tell you… i just did.
Blacks they don’t have nowhere to go
but vote for the democratic nominee.
Whites very easy can vote republican
without any problem.
In G.E the ballgame is different if the democratic nominee does not represent the majority of ALL the register voters.
[NOT THOSE WHO VOTE ON PRIMARIES AND
CAUCUSES].
I’m talking each state’s REGISTER
VOTERS.
Posted by: Nicholas | May 11, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
You just never know…
Posted by: Mark | May 11, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Hillary C…CLOSE is still alive!!!
Posted by: ablanche08 | May 11, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
The best candidate is not always the one who wins. So we get Obama, someone with zero experience and sure to lose to McCain. Stupid move Democratic party.
Posted by: Kikiva | May 11, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Hang in there, Hillary! Maybe there’s still time (or a miracle) to prevent a disaster for America.
Posted by: Rhys | May 11, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I must admit: I have to give this woman my utmost admiration. Despite being bashed relentlessly by almost everyone, the media, the politicians – friends & foes, the bloggers, SHE IS STILL KEEPIN HER HEADS HIGH, COMING STRONG & CHARGING AHEAD LIKE A MAD COW. How many people, men or women, can do what she’s doing right now.
Posted by: ablanche08 | May 11, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
I am a hardcore democrat and Hillary supporter and if Obama is the nominee, I will not vote for him in the general election.
Posted by: Joe | May 11, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
i admire hillary – she is tenacious – is she faultless no way but neither is obama – a champion is not someone who never gets knocked down a champion is one who always gets up – though she obviously cares deeply about her campaign and her mission she almost always personally upbeat – there is something rare and special about that – i don’t think obama could take the kind of abuse hillary gets while remaining ‘above the fray’
Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | May 11, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
I understand her staying in the race — she’s a fighter. She shouldn’t drop out for the same reason that Mike Huckabee shouldn’t have dropped out when he was behind on the GOP side: until the voters have spoken and a nominee is chosen. I just feel badly that the Democratic race has taken an ugly turn toward racial undertones. I’m tired of that garbage, and I thought Americans would be better than that by now. I guess I’m wrong.
Posted by: eric | May 11, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
after West Virginia, Hillary will say, “…see, I’m still winning…” This from the candidate(s) who sent their daughter into the GLT bar district (at night)in Philadelphia to make sure the alcoholic GLTs voted for Mom. Last week, it was Chelsea, pictured in a convent, ‘addressing’ Nuns. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary is seen with black coal dust on her face in a room full of her core supporters… white people, as Paul Begala would have us believe. West Virginia, isn’t that the state that JFK’s father purchased, the one that gave our beloved John the delegate lead in 1960? How historic this moment is.
Posted by: jggrimm | May 11, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
ya know… this lady has been thru more them anyone of us has… could be stand up and be counted as she has. not just now, how about the things that she put up with in the white house.. could anyone of you did what she did… NO I DON’T THINK SO./ She has more guts them most of the people who she deals.. with…If it were to be told Remember He didn’t do such a bad job we were in the Black when he left office and where are we now.. If he could do it and I say WITH HER HELP, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN AND THIS TIME AND MAYBE IT WILL BE WITH HIS HELP… She has been there done that…
Posted by: whitedove | May 11, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
If she couldn’t beat Obama in the primaries, with that huge political machine and all the chits due her and her husband, she sure isn’t the candidate to beat McCain in the fall election. Besides, independents don’t much like or trust her, and Republicans hate her. Obama can get crossover votes, even from Republicans. He is the better candidate.
Posted by: Richard | May 11, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
I have watched Senator Clinton deal with all of this adversity. All she asked for was a chance to serve. She has given me the courage to not ever back down or give up when I know I am right. She has given me the courage to press on. Senator Clinton I am with you now and even in November when if I must I will write in your name. I will stand for you as you are standing for me. Women take note of what is really happening here. Signed a Black Female
Posted by: Virginia in NC | May 11, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Please don’t forget there are 16,400,000 people who are backing her.
She is not doing this for some weird selfish reason. She is continuing because her supporters say so.
Posted by: dgh | May 11, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
i hear everyday that clinton should drop out of the race . i’m a big supporter of hillary and and it always seems that women arn’t stong and there isn’t a place for a women in the white house, i blieve in hillary she is strong and would make a great presdient ,you go hillary the fight isn’t over yet.
Posted by: kathy | May 11, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Hillary is wasting hers and everyone else’s time with continuing this stubborn, delusional and very selfish campaign. Her baggage is far greater, far worse, and there was plenty yet to be revealed by the Republicans if she had been successful in her run than anything that can be used against Obama. Clinton and her shills asked why Obama stayed a member of an 8 thousand member church with a jerk pastor, when the bigger question to ask is why Hillary stayed married to a jerk serial adulterer, who sexually exploited a White House intern, then was stupid enough to lie about it to the Feds leading to his Impeachment? Her willingness to stand by WJC so to pursue her political ambitions makes her unseemly and unelectable. She and Bill are flawed, ethically bankrupt, ruthless people. It’s over, she lost.
Posted by: msskwesq | May 11, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Obama and his left wingerers can’t handle the truth. and this “jerk” you refer to is the only Democrat to win re-election as President since FDR. Cliton won WV, Gore lost WV, if he did not he would of been President.
The first thing Obama did after delcring himelf nominee was go get his ass kissed on Capital Hill. Same old , same old.
Posted by: geevill | May 11, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
It is not over, media want Hillary to drop out so that in the general election they can go after Obama, they did the same thing with Gore and Kerry, they know Obama is piece of cake,under his belt he is having the pastor, the Bill Ayers, the bitter gate,and GOD knows how many more gates will be surfacing in September October. Same on media.
Posted by: illindipendent | May 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Is there any doubt AT ALL in anyone’s mind that Hillary and/or Bill Clinton will lie at any opportunity if they believe it will serve them better than the truth? Be it over sexual relations with ‘that’ woman, or I supported NAFTA while I was against it, or was it that she was against NAFTA while she supported it? Bringing peace to Northern Ireland and Bosnia? Sniper fire? Gas taxes pandering. White House experience, etc. And if you think she understands the blue-collar worker, check out the video of her at the Seven Eleven trying to use the coffee machine. Really a shot and a beer girl or a gun advocate? Yeah, right………:-)
Posted by: Richard | May 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Why don’t we just let the people say who they want in the White House.. why do we have the super deligates.. they are not the ones who is going to do the voteing WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATED IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE SAY…..
Posted by: whitedsove | May 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Happy Mother’s Day Senator Clinton! Fight on, to the convention if needed! This country will get better if you’re in charge!
For those who haven’t voted when considering Senator Obama don’t forget who is “friends” are… Rev. Wright, Mr. Ayers and Mr. Rezko… And ponder the familiar phrase before casting your vote “Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are”…. Good luck!
Posted by: PA Voter | May 11, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
If bad obama and John Skinner want to come to alabama – I’d like to show them a thing about callin people names. You two are the most idiotic morons postingin this blog to date
Posted by: jozy | May 11, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Dear Hillary, I am with you all the way.You are the strongest, most qualified for the job, therefore you deserve to win and you will! America needs you.
Posted by: andrea | May 11, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
It’s time women stood up and make their stand with the Democratic party who have let woman down this time around. Someone with Senator Clinton’s background is obviously the better candidate, but the party prefers to back their boy wonder. It’s time we took our seat at the front of the bus and not budge. Talk of unifying the party is bull. As a lifelong 50 year old Democrat, I’m one who will vote for McCain and hope that Hillary will make another run in 2012. Then, maybe the Democratic party will take women seriously. HILLARY FIGHT ON!
Posted by: ack2358 | May 11, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Obama =LOSE in November
Posted by: GEEVILL | May 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Clinton is pass the point of anything short of acting like a self-centered pin-head. Her base does not represent a broad coalition, it’s a narrow bunch of ex-feminists trying to resurrect the pass. I’m so glad the voters have enough sense to pick the two best candidates for both the Republican and Democrat nominees. I’m an Independant and I think the choices this fall will be the best we’ve seen in a long long time.
Posted by: Den | May 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Things are NOT as they are made to appear.
For all the talk about “Super Delegates”, there is nothing “Super” about them. Just as everyone of us, they have one vote each. Their endorsement is just that, an endorsement. It is not a vote. They are not supposed to come into play unless there is a deadlocked convention, and in that case, they are expected to exercise their BEST JUDGMENT to cast their votes for that candidate they, in view of their extensive experience and political wisdom, think would be able to WIN the General Election. They are not supposed to be endorsing this or that candidate, BEFORE THEY VOTE AT THE CONVENTION. To do otherwise is to be false to the trust and responsibility that has been placed in and on them.
It would be better at this point if all the bickering supporters of each candidate looked at the number of ACTUAL PLEDGED DELEGATES allocated to their candidate on the basis of primaries and caucuses won. Those figures, for those who truly follow politics are:
Obama 1410
Clinton 1332
Diff. 78
Of the “surveyed” “Super Delegates”, of which there are approx. 795, there are at least 274 who have not “endorsed” any candidate, which is as it was intended to be. Again, an “endorsement” does not necessarily translate into a convention vote, since in theory “Super Delegates” are supposed to represent the wisdom of the party and are expected to be above the fray. Those who have endorsed, really should be stripped of their position and replaced by those who will act as intended. However, that is the responsibility of the DNC, which so far, has proven inadequate to discipline its own members.
The bottom line, “Super Delegate” endorsements should not be counted by candidates claiming that such an “endorsement” makes this person into a PLEDGED DELEGATE, for that is NOT THE CASE, and to think otherwise is to delude oneself and one’s followers. It is also wrong for the media to even report what “Super Delegates” are doing now, as they do not even come into play unless and until there is a DEADLOCKED CONVENTION.
However, there is nothing to prevent partisans from ‘counting chickens before they hatch”, nor is there anything to prevent the media from playing games with gullible people to increase interest in these silly stories.
As Yogi Berra once said, “It ain’t over, ’til its over”. And this fight is a long way from over.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 11, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I am a working class white male who has supported you since the beginning and strongly encourage you to continue. It pains me that the party leadership, the super delegates, and the one annointed by Teddy have continuously shown their arrogance. I admire you for your courage as the first Woman President of the United States of America. Remember, we support you now and for 2012. Sorry to say that John will get my vote should the annointed one get his appointment. God Bless.
Posted by: benvictor | May 11, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
If she couldn’t beat Obama in the primaries, with that huge political machine and all the chits due her and her husband, she sure isn’t the candidate to beat McCain in the fall election. Besides, independents don’t much like or trust her, and Republicans hate her. Obama can get crossover votes, even from Republicans. He is the better candidate.
Posted by: Richard | May 11, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Clinton even exploits Mother’s Day for political advantage. She will stop at nothing. What a repulsive, selfish human being.
Posted by: bob10001 | May 11, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Yavo Lem…Very Interesting details. Your source please? I’d like to share that with others
Posted by: Virginia in NC | May 11, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
She is a piece of crap from the inside out.She will stop at nothing to win this I can not beleive the witch she has become and she is working for WHO????Not us she is working for HILLY and HILLY only .If she has a brain she would step down musy be nice to have money to through away…Hey Toss if this way.
Posted by: h | May 11, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Okay…let’s stick with the information in the piece. Hillary is still in. ‘K. I do not support her as a candidate, but I can see where she can be held in esteem by some for not throwing in the towel…a show of women’s strength and all that. Too bad she couldn’t learn how to be truthful and not a symbol of “hell hath no fury…”
Posted by: slibear | May 11, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
The Clintons are in big time denial. They have their henchmen out beating the bushes for anything they can use. Lookout for more Clinton lies trying to smear Sen Obama who is going to win the Presidency no matter what Hillary, McCain or any form of Bush lite takes. America will change and that is a fact you can take to the bank. We will never support a back room deal from the Clintons or a continuation of the stupid Bush policies!!!
Posted by: rockychance | May 11, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Obama will soon be gone.Wright will make sure of that. And if Wright doesnt do it McCain will.
Posted by: n9b26 | May 11, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Take it to the floor Hill!
He’s unelectable in Nov. and everyone knows it.
Posted by: s.b. | May 11, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Obama, for better or worse, is in the best position to be our next president. He will likely win most of the south, new england and midwest in an electoral majority that will look much like Kennedy’s in 1960 and Carter’s in 1976. Hillary’s campaign, as Tim Russert announced, is dead. She will trounce Obama in both WV and KY, thanks in part to her Nixonesque campaign rhetoric (she is not racist, btw, just pandering to them), but the delegate numbers are trivial. There will be many smiles and cheers on stage, but the uncommitted superdelegates will yawn and keep marching toward Obama because they want to back the winner. Those pledged to her have already started to jump ship.
Posted by: Jackson | May 11, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Obama needs to get out of the race. His inexperienced racist ego will cost the Democrats another election that was just begging to be handed to them.
He will lose the majority of the 57 states in the General Election.
Posted by: Chantel | May 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
the democratic party should be ashamed of their blatant support towards Obama.I thought Democracy was rule by the people…this sham of selecting a mominee is an Oligarchy…political power by an elite group.The media bias is so evidently pro Obama…Let the people choose….I have more and more respect for Sen CLINTON each day as she struggles within such a corrupt system.
The democratic party is every thing but democratic.Obama =Oligarchy..I cant imagine anyone falling for the spin from the Elite Democratic leaders that the party will be united in the fall.How far are teir heads in the sand??? Irrepearable damage has occured….Time for the strongest candidate to go independant me thinks??
With much respect and god speed Sen Clinton.
Posted by: adele | May 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Hillary has lost for one big reason—-people do not like her because they know she stayed with a husband who continually abused her by messing around with other women. America does not admire a person, who for insane reasons of power, will do anything–including taking the humiliation that Bill heaped upon her. If she had divorced him, she would have won me over but she did not for Machiavellian reasons!
Posted by: rockychance | May 11, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
char19145 I agree with your comment 100%. The superdelegates are taking a big gamble backing Obama before the convention. According to a Newsmax article Wright is furious with Obama now for throwing him and the Black church under the bus.
Posted by: n9b26 | May 11, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Senator John Edwards of North Carolina announced today that “Hillary Clinton has become a stronger candidate, and has made a compelling base for her continued candidacy for the nomination”. Hooray for John Edwards! It takes “guts” to speak out against the Obama campaign machine. Go Hillary!
Posted by: Anne | May 11, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Is it not the object of this exercise to win? So why is everyone so anxious to call the race over before the finish line?
If Obama feels its over all he has to do is pull out, don’t contest anymore state, count FL and MI, and let Hillary continue to fight on, its not as if he does not know how to not contest a state as he said he has done before, so what is the big deal now, don’t fight.
Since he is so sure that he is the nominee it simple just do as I said and lets see, what will happen.
Posted by: SJ | May 11, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Keep going Hillary dont give up, this empty suit has more stuff to come out.
Hillary 08
Posted by: toby | May 11, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Hillary you are my girl. Don’t quit. The Americans needs you, the world needs you.
Posted by: John Prescot | May 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
What has America come to. After Sept.11 we would have someone running for president that has terriost ties. It took Obama twenty years to find out his pastor views on race. Can you imagine the people that he might have working in the white house. Democrates are making a stupid move right now….FALSE HOPES FROM OBAMA……
CLINTON 2008
Posted by: Artist | May 11, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
BURN HILLARY BURN! THE LADY IN THE “PANT SUIT” IS JUST AN EMPTY SUIT ON FIRE! Hillary, you have said nasty things, divisive things, hateful things – you have every right to stay to the end… however, do what is right, and fair and just for all your supporters – SHOW SOME ‘TOLARANCE,’ IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!ASK YOUR SUPPORTERS TO BE ‘TOLARANT TOO!’ Do it for the Democrats, do it for the USA and yes, do it for HUMANITY ! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 11, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Lets all face it, not only is Obama the democratic nominee, he will also crush mcCain. Obama will heal our country regardless if you Obama haters like him or not. the funny part about it all is Obama will better even the haters life just because you are part of the country racist people are becoming the minority. Go Barack o8
Posted by: Libra 75 | May 11, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Hillary Clinton will end up being the democratic nominee in 2008 unless if Obama wins at least 50% + 1 in both West Virginia and Kentucky.
Posted by: WestVirginiaBabe | May 11, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
If Obama gets the Democratic nomination, he will lose to McCain.
Posted by: midwestlady | May 11, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Like the song says: You’ve got to know when to fold. Mrs. Clinton is doing herself more arm than anything else.
She’s not being a lady by acting the way she does. No pride or to much…
I have learn threw this campain who. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton really are and I am very very disapointed.
Never will I ever have any respect for them. They are only interested in power.
Posted by: lee roy | May 11, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
My only pray today was that she’ll move on as an independent.
Posted by: esvida | May 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
9/11 was an inside job. Please do the research on Building 7 and the Pentagon. Someone let this happen. It is truly sickening.
Posted by: Catsy | May 11, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Many people who say that FL and MI should count are dubm. Why these people didn’t voice before they voted? Why they are saying they should be counted now? Just to give those votes to Hillary. Shame on you Hillary and your supporters. FL and MI are punished for not following DNC’s rule. It was not Barack who penelized these states. Even Hillary has agreed to not count FL N MI votes. Now she lost the remaining elections, and now she needs it. It is disgusting. She does not want these delegates to be seated. If she wanted them to be seated, the fair measure now is to give half/half delegates to each Barack and Hillary.
They will be seated and however will not have effect in choosing a nominee since they are penalized. However, this is not acceptable to Hillary since she wants to win the nominations based on those votes. Give me a break.
Posted by: Purushsharma73 | May 11, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
It’s becoming obvious from reading these posts that there ought to be a minimum level of education required to vote.
If you are truly a democrat, and believe in democratic principles–then you won’t vote for McCain. It is just not rational to do so if your candidate doesn’t win.
If you do that, you can not complain when the Iraq War continues endlessly (3 billion a week)and there is possibly a draft, gas prices will spiral upward as we continue to shake our mighty Americaan fist at the Middle East (or anyone else that may annoy us), Roe v Wade will be challenged–I could go on and on–but 4 more years of Bush policies scare the hell out of me.
Hillary makes my skin crawl–but I would vote for before John McCain.
Posted by: jc | May 11, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Nicholas,when you hear of 1500 more troops dying I hope their blood is on your hands,You speak for yourself you must be one of her little do gooders that is not educated.If you vote for Mc Cain just because when you are walking to work and freezing in your house and can’t put food on the table remember who you voted for and blame NO ONE but yourself.
For Mrs Pantsuit( quite the handle to be blessed with) cares for no one but herself<<<<<<<<
Posted by: honest | May 11, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
It is going to be fun to watch Obama beg for Florida’s and Michigan’s votes come the general election. He did not want them to count in the primaries. After the primaries he will want the votes from Florida and Michigan to count and their delegates to be seated at the convention. This will be to late Obama. Without Florida and Michigan in the general election Obama will fall flat and lose to McCain.
Posted by: n9b26 | May 11, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
i must say i admire hillary clinton for
standing strong and not ready to give up
the race for presidency.she is a fighter. but im a supporter of obama and
i believe, he can and will defeat john
mccain in the november election. and bring change which this country needs.it
has been said this campaign is not about
race,and that is how it should be.no one
can or should be put down for their etnicity. we are all human beings and god’s children. i
Posted by: alice faye smith | May 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
honest — such logic. Not!
Posted by: A | May 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
If only the Republican dominated Legislature of Florida hadn’t FORCED the vote for an early primary, knowing full well they would still have 1/2 of their delegates and democrats would lose all of theirs, this might be a different tune right about now.
The DNC should be ashamed of themselves for denying the citizens of Florida the right to have our votes recognized because we didn’t have a say so in moving the primary up. We didn’t want the early primary, but the legislature voted and being a Republican Dominated Legislature and having a Republican Governor..we lost our rights.
As for Hillary, All I can say is, “Hang in there and Fight the Good Fight”! We won’t give up on you till you say so!
Posted by: PeaJay | May 11, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Hillary’s supporters; Hope against hope, I guess.
Posted by: LongT | May 11, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Lake Hart
All democrats don’t sacrifice beliefs for party like you do. They’re called ‘intelligent’.
Posted by: Aston | May 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
PeaJay – I can see why a Floridian would be upset, but I really think they need to look at themselves for not demanding change after the debacle of the Bush-Gore election. I mean, is it really any surprise that a state that gave us the ‘hanging chad’ now has another election controversy? The rest of the states seem to have figured things out, why can’t Florida?
Posted by: jmengate | May 11, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Obama doesn’t have zero experience–in fact, he has more experience as an elected official than Hillary! Look it up. Since when do we count experience as First Lady in an election? Does this mean Laura Bush is qualified to run for POTUS? HRC does have experience in one arena-scandal. The list of scandals the Clintons have been mired in is as long as several arms and dwarfs anything Obama has been involved with to date. People need to recall the Clinton presidency it wasn’t all wine and roses. 4 years of melodrama to distract from our problems is not what this country needs. Sorry Hillary, but you and Bill blew it!
Posted by: April Campbell | May 11, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
2008 race for the Democratic nomination is over for Hillary Clinton. The party is over “Bye Bye”.
Obama will be the Democratic’s Party’s Nominee
Posted by: Lookup | May 11, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Blacks and elitist need Obama not the Democratic party. McCain 2008
Posted by: n9b26 | May 11, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Lake Hart – you’re joking right? I hope you’re not suffering from a wiring problem.
Gas is going up in price all over the world. Yet you seem to think it’s just here. Where does one get such kooky ideas. Maybe, by not staying on top of things and acting out of emotion instead of logic ????
PS: It’s your precious party that’s always trying to limit gas supply. It’s one of your top senators (Durbin) who recently advocated a 50-cent/gallon gas tax. It’s your party who is pushing for additional taxes to the oil producers which will be passed the tax along to consumers.
Wake up!
Posted by: Aston | May 11, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
PeaJay | May 11, 2008 7:18:11 PM
The only answer is to vote out the Republican majority in FL. If you don’t, you’ll have the same results in 2012. Your choice.
Posted by: Bell | May 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Hillary,
Don’t quit. Fight on and if necessary take it to the convention. We are behind you all the way. If superdelegates crown Obama, I’ll sure vote for McCain. Please don’t give up “phenomenal woman.”
Posted by: Josh | May 11, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Democrats,
Thank you so much for choosing Obama as your presumptive nominee. He will be an easy target for the Republicans and John McCain. Rev. Wright, Rezko, lack of experience and “Change We Don’t Believe In” with no defined policy, to back it up. He will be able to win on the West Coast and New England, but McCain will destroy him in the swing states. Thanks again for making this easy in a year that the Democrats should have won. Maybe Obama is God’s way of punishing you for lack of respect for human life.
Signed: Every Loyal Republican
Posted by: Anthony Corleone | May 11, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Anthony Corleone | May 11, 2008 7:34:52 PM
He will be an easy target for the Republicans and John McCain. Rev. Wright, Rezko, lack of experience and “Change We Don’t Believe In” with no defined policy, to back it up.
Thanks, this is straight from the Sean Hannity daily monologue. Now we know who you are.
Posted by: Bell | May 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Lake Hart – I agree – tolerance is good. We should tolerate in terms of human diversity, not filth and disgusting ugliness. Sorry I lost my temper, but go look at that thing Lq3NLjdJ4Vc on you tube. If OB didn’t say that, then whoever put that together is pretty ugly. I AM intolerant of that kind of ugliness. It infects people with more ugliness, even me, when I see it I get pretty angry. I think anyone with decent values would be angered and disgusted by that, no matter who is responsible for it. And let’s keep the record straight – I do not and have never been a member of ANY political party. I vote my heart and mind, not what some self-serving political organization tells me to vote. And I will vote Hillary, even if I have to write her name in on the ballot in November. Is that better? And too bad, WAY WAY WAY too bad Native Americans were nearly obliterated by Europeans way back when. If they had kicked out the Europeans (and no fault they didn’t, they were up against more than any decent people could fight against) the Americas would be a much better place. So I honor your blood, and appreciate your criticism of my anger, you are right, but it’s hard to sit by and watch so much ugliness going on – it is so offensive. So if I have offended anyone, I humbly apologize, but I stick to my opinions otherwise.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 11, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
READY999
The DNC did it to Florida. Stop pretending!
Posted by: A | May 11, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Hillary Clinton is NOT a good female role model for any daughter of mine, sorry; actually, I would venture to say, I would let them watch her in action, to teach them all the things they should not be and do.
Posted by: IslandGyal | May 11, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t give up…..take it all the way and see what happens.
Posted by: Barb | May 11, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
For everyone supporting Hillary, and think the rules of the election are “unfair,” just remember that Harold Ickes, Jr. is the one responsible for making up the rules back in 1984, 1988, and again in 1992. The simple fact is the Clintons have controlled the Democratic Party since they came into office, and they are now osing it. And you know what? I couldn’t be happier. First, Hillary is not the stronger candidate to beat John McCain. If she truly was stronger than Barack Obama, she would have easily wrapped the primary up on February 5, raised more money, and bring in more support. Hell, she had the party machine backing her. Second, there’s no question that both she and her husband carry a ton of baggage. While nostalgia for the 90s isn’t necessarily bad, keep in mind that the Clintons cost the Democrats control of Congress in 1994, Hillary couldn’t get universal healthcare to work, there was Whitewater, the special interests, and last but not least the impeachment. All of these things would come back to haunt the party if Hillary won. And before I go, running on experience is the worst message you can run on. It didn’t work for Al Gore, it didn’t work for John Kerry, and it certainly hasn’t worked for Hillary Clinton. All things considered, I don’t see Hillary fighting for the people, especially after she retooled her campaign message more than once, and now she and her husband are showing their true colors of wanting to stay in party, regardless of the damage they will cause to the party.
Posted by: Jared | May 11, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Jared – That was very well said.
Posted by: jmengate | May 11, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Clinton is bringing out the worst in people. Just read these comments above.
Posted by: bob10001 | May 11, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Jared- thank you buddy, you had more patience than I , and typed out exactly what I would like to say myself.
My hats off fella….
Thank you.
Posted by: Bud | May 11, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Good points Mini. Get ready for the draft folks. We have a generation of young kids who are about ot experience what it was like getting draft numbers. what people don’t know, is that the US govt abolished the old deferral system. A reinstituted draft would call for students to be trained and then shipped overseas after the finish their current academic year only, and this includes college and graduate school. Under the previous draft laws, you were deferred from being drafted as long as you were in college or grad school. No longer. congress changed the rules to be fair to people of all walks of life. Don’t look for them to change that either. times are different now, and there are severe shortages of active and reserve military folks. the GI Bill is gone too. Did you know that? McCain, like Bush opposes current legislation to reinstitute the GI Bill for college help for our returning war veterans. Go figure! At least we won’t be nuking Iran with Hillary now essentially out of the race. the Hillary dems only care about one thing right now- changing party affiliation and voting for McCain, and along with voting and supporting him sweeping in a new crop of republican congressmen to control the House and Senate, and insure that several more Conservative Supreme Court judges will be appointed under McCain.
Posted by: Jillian | May 11, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
ABCNEWSREADER-
could you elaborate about your decision? Seems a bit hasty and may I say venemous… Just curious as to your reasoning so I can debate you about your decision with facts. Not emotions, just facts. I have a son, and your comment truly disturbs me. So lay it all out for me and let’s get this debate rolling.
Kindest Regards, Bud
Posted by: Bud | May 11, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Don’t you get it all you naysayers? She’s not listening to you. Why should she? She’s listening to the people who have supported her along. They want her to go the distance. Why don’t you be constructive and focus on your own choice of candidate, or just shut up.
Posted by: JETrout | May 11, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
LOL That’s ALWAYS been Hillary’s problem..she wopn’t take good advice from anyone. Always thought she knew better. It cost the American people a health care program back in the 90′s and now it is going to cost the Democratic party.
Way too full of herself and can’t accept the reality that she did not win a majority of votes. Popular vote? LOL ONLY if you disenfranchise ALL caucus states. Lucky for us that the Supers are well aware of the Clinton retoric.
Posted by: Sam | May 11, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
DNC should adopt the “winner-takes-all” as the Federal system for the presidential primaries. Sadly, DNC would rather forego a better candidate (Hilary Clinton) for an untested, inexperience Obama with questionable integrity. Americans will face four more bad years for selecting another bad candidate for the Presidency.
Posted by: T888tai | May 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
DNC should adopt the “winner-takes-all” as the Federal system for the presidential primaries. Sadly, DNC would rather forego a better candidate (Hilary Clinton) for an untested, inexperience Obama with questionable integrity. Americans will face four more bad years for selecting another bad candidate for the Presidency.
Posted by: T888tai | May 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Oh it’s over LOL Unless she can talk the remaining supers into disenfranchising the majority of pledged delegates, and the majority of voters in this country, it’s over. Bet Clinton would have no problem disenfranchising then ROTFLMAO at the many sides to Sibyl Clinton.
Posted by: Sam | May 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Clinton experienced? LOL She proved…no other people proved her lack of experience. The leaders in Bosnia, the leaders of Ireland, her trying to take credit for the Childrens Health care program that only included a signature from her, not the work.
Don’t even try to come on here and say she has experience…unless it’s in inciting racism.
Posted by: Sam | May 11, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I am so sick of people saying Obama has no experience…… he had enough experience to BEAT Hillary!!!! Hee hee hee! If she was so experienced, then why did her campaign fall flat on their face? Experience isn’t everything….sometimes common sense beats all!!
Posted by: Kim | May 11, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
The only person Hillary is fighting for is herself–she wants to be first female President of America.Then Hill and Bill will go down in history as first husband and wife Presidents of America.The “Clinton’s ” are shameless.Not to mention their inflated egos.
Posted by: orange cat | May 11, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Stay Strong Hillary! It’s not over until we allow our Democratic process to work. Not everyone has voted yet!!!!
If Hillary loses…I’m going to vote for John McCain!
NOTHING and I mean nothing would make me vote for this inexperienced, bigot who listened to his Pastor time and time again condemn the USA. If I heard my Pastor say G_d Damn America I would stand up and leave that church. There is something wrong with Obama if he can sit there and say he never heard that before. Not only is he a bigot, he’s a liar. At least you know what you’re going to get with McCain. Who the heck is Obama anyway? GO HILLARY! God bless the USA!
Posted by: Janice | May 11, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist Obama — NEVER
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Janice: I agree with you. I’m a lifelong Democrat, but if I have to choose between a centrist Republican, and an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, racist Obama, then for the first time in my life, I will vote Republican. If Obama is the nominee, all of the party elite who have been trying to shove Obama down our throats for months are going to get a big surprise in November, when Obama is defeated by voters in his own party.
Posted by: Edith | May 11, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
NIcholas, you are confused, remember that first the black vote was for republicans and then came JFK who has changed the picture and black voters went for the democrates. So do not think that only white people can change their vote for a democrat or republican candidate. Do not take people as granted. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | May 11, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
It is really not over. Why? Because no matter what the Media wants you to believe, Rookie U.S. Senator Obama does not have enough delegates to lock up the nomination. Being closer to the nomination is not the same thing as winning to the nomination. If Obama falls short of the tape, the race should be decided as to who is more likely to cross the tape before McCain on Election Day.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | May 11, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Hillary is only thinking of herself… She has burned many bridges in the Senate and has no place to return to. She only thinks of herself. Who wants this kind of person in the WH> If she was truly a person who cares abut the party… she would step down with grace. Does this continuous dragging on look like grace. It is over and All of us need to move on the General election and McCain.
Posted by: spoon2456 | May 11, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
TCG,
You finally figured out, notwithstanding the Animal House copyright question. It ain’t over to the working class Democrats say its over, and we have a long and sustainable memory. Hillary now, or Hillary in 4 years, you decide.
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Obama and BitterGate, we will not forget!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 11, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
In other words, its not over until the fat lady sings!
Posted by: eugene | May 11, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Sally said Racist Obama… YOU idiot, he is the black guy in the race. Get a new see and eye dog. With that kind of IQ, are you sure it is legal for you to vote? What Meds are you on?
Posted by: spoon2456 | May 11, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Edith, did you know it was 2008 ?
The greatest blessing to the majority of folks under 35 will be when the elders that are racist and opinionated can no longer vote.
Funny- it is obvious histroy repeats itself- but whe something *new* comes along- oh dear god- he’s a racist. Well, McCains hagee is the biggest racist of them all- but I guess your white and you don’t mind his remarks.
The younger generation is not afraid, we are not nearly as racist, and we think you elders have had enough time screwing up this country. When you were yuger you made a couple good choices, now your mind is opinionated and your knowledge base is small. HARDLY the base I want choosing the next president my son will turn 18 under.
Time to pass the torch, keep you radical racial views to your damn self.
Posted by: Bud | May 11, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
With her Republican/Rove campaign tactics, her race-baiting, and now with her continued criticism of Obama even though he’s the presumptive nominee (and it’s total denial if you think he isn’t), Hillary has proven that she has absolutely no class and no ethics. Had she graciously exited the race this week, she would have traveled the high road and so many of us would have admired her more for it. The Clintons might have put a band-aid on their bleeding legacy, as well. But no.
Posted by: DogBitez | May 11, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
in other words its not over Until The Fat Lady Sings!
Posted by: eugene | May 11, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Nat Turner: I accept your apology.
Bud: I notice that you could not answer my question. What about it; do you agree with the statements of Jame Cone, one of the founders of Obama’s so-called religion?
The rest of you who have played the usual race card against any who disagree with you, let me clue you in on something: To point out the racism of another is not racism in and of itself. But, I’m sure you knew that, didn’t you . . .
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
USMarine0331,
Well said. All the polls show that Hillary is the candidate to beat McCain. There are many millions of former Obama supporters that would love to have the opportunity to change their votes.
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Hillary stands up for all the voters!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 11, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
One of the Stateges of change is called Pre-Comptemplation which is what Hillary is experiencing.
Posted by: eugene | May 11, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Hillary will show she has a lot of sway. At this point it is just a nail bitter for Obama about when and how he will be allowed to take the lead. He’s better not screw-up this one. He will be heavily scrutinized in the weeks and months to come for faux pas or any statement that would put him at odd with the party’s establishment. Most of them will go along, albeit reluctantly, if he doesn’t screw up during his probation. He’s better not have many more skeletons in his closest. Yes, he is held to a higher standard. That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: cestfini | May 11, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
cestfini said that Obama is held to a higher standard.
You can’t really believe that. What do you think would happen if it came out that Hillary Clinton belonged to a white racist church for 20 years, and considered its white racist pastor to be her “mentor and spiritual adviser”? I’ll tell you; she would be forced to withdraw from the race immediately, and her political career would be over.
Obama is held to a higher standard; give me a break!
Posted by: Eddie | May 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Just wondering: If Clinton is so great, why is she losing to Obama? And why is her campaign out of money and 20 million in debt? She says that she can bet McCain, but she can’t even beat Obama.
Posted by: Tom | May 11, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
To: Al –FL.and MI. were warned ahead of time that if they held their primarys early that it would not count.But…being like naughty children..they wanted their cake early and can not understand why they are not invited to the main party.
Posted by: orange cat | May 11, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
“How come Obama can’t close the deal with the working class voters?”
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How come Hillary couldn’t close the deal? In fact, she’s further away from closing the deal than Obama is… so…. that kind of makes her the loser in this race, doesn’t it?
Posted by: DogBitez | May 11, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
abalanch08;
Close only counts in when playing
Horseshoes! It’s Over no matter what
Hillary and her delusional supporters
have to say!
Posted by: reaganfan | May 11, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Alot of people are falling for it…it is NOT over until someone reaches 2209. OBAMA has yet to visit WV, so I guess if he is the GE, he can count on them not supporting him.
HILLARY will be the nominee.
Posted by: mj | May 11, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Sally – Ok, you’ve asked that question a million times. No, I don’t agree with that statement.
Posted by: jmengate | May 11, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
This woman is so full of herself, it’s laughable! The delegate count to reach is 2025–not the new 2209 number Clinton and her staff have conveniently made up! I swear, if I had a nickel for every time she has tried to change the rules by moving the goal posts in this campaign, I’d be rich!
To her supporters–stop making excuses for her! The simple truth is that she lost this race because:
1. She didn’t take Obama seriously.
2. She ran a sloppy campaign.
3. She thought she was inevitable.
Don’t blame Obama because he understood the rules, fought hard in the caucuses as well as primaries and ran an exemplary campaign! If she can’t run her campaign effectively, how in the world is she going to run the country???
Posted by: getreal | May 11, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I suppose the there is always a way to pick the weakest nominee in the dems primaries. One has to hope, yup, HOPE, the general election loser club does not grow again, but with such a phony hypocrite, there is no way it is not growing.
2012 will be HRC year.
Posted by: boneheaded, chicago | May 11, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Sally – I actually agree with you. I think every candidate has their positives and negatives. I would put this squarely in the negative category for Obama. You may not agree, however, but I feel his positives outweigh this.
Posted by: jmengate | May 11, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
I don’t see what all the fuss is about. I’ve lerned to submit to a better opponent in Obama. He just happened to be the superior candidate.
We tried, but lost.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Haywood | May 11, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Why aren’t all you Hillary Clinton supporters contributing to her campaign?
She is $20 million dollars in debt.
Obama doesn’t have $5 to $10 million a month to loan his campaign, and she called him the elitist. Hillary is going to make sure if she doesn’t be the nominee, he won’t win in November. Shame on her and all her selfish democrats in name only supporters.
Posted by: Pearl | May 11, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
But at least he didn’t LIE about it.
Posted by: Rita | May 11, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Deep down inside I know that Obama is the better candidate and ultimately the better man for the position of POTUS.
It just took a little time for me to get a better insight of Obama.
How could you now appreciate him coming out of nowhere and beating Clinton at her own game while maintaining above the fray?
Posted by: Haywood | May 11, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
rodney – Moving soon. Right next to the Whole Foods down the street.
Posted by: jmengate | May 11, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
To all those Hillary’s supporters who say, if Hilary does not get the nomination, they will vote for McCain’t. Well, I have one thing to say, take your vote and give to man who wants the 100 year war. Then, may sure you and your draft eligible children are the first ones in line to sign up to fight in Iraq. P.S.
Posted by: suv2001 | May 11, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Just because people won’t vote for Obama doesn’t mean they are stupid or ignorant. What kind of logic is that? This is a democracy and we have freedom to choose who we vote for. Calling people stupid or ignorant won’t chnage a person’s mind.
Posted by: terry | May 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Polarizing, that sums up Clinton.
Posted by: Thinking | May 11, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
To all of the Hillary lovers:
I don’t care if Barack loses in November, as long as any Clinton is not near the White House again!
Posted by: Joe | May 11, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Hillary is a roll model for all women.
This is a tough president that we need because she is able to stand on the heat of the pundits and Obama’s supporters to tell her to stop the race.
Don’t give up until the voters count.
I keep supporting her to write her name on Nov. ballot if she is not a nominiee.
Posted by: Laura | May 11, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
ja
people in iraq have been killing each other for thousands of years.
the only change that bush has made is that they are now killing our sones and daughters—a super good republican move
Posted by: rodney | May 11, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Bud–you need to learn how to spell-and read your blogs over very carefully before sending.Why should you be taken serious?? It seems like you are the only one who knows what you are saying.
Posted by: orange cat | May 11, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Last I heard it was an all voluntary military that we have in the United States.
I can say for certain that I have felt much safer after 9/11 since security has been stepped up. There are still problems, but even though I am not a Republican, I believe that if the Dems were in office, we would be less safe.
Posted by: Charlotte Voter | May 11, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
andrea
yes we are looking forward to a 100 year war
Posted by: rodney | May 11, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
sonia
we could give hillary all of florida and she is still losing
Posted by: rodney | May 11, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
All you dishwater democrats that say you’ll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, go for it. The party is better off with out you and your GED. Vote for McCain, and remember when your stocking shelves at the Walmart because your job has been shipped overseas, we tried to help you. Don’t forget the Clintons are just as responsible as the Republicans for getting us into the mess we are in.
Posted by: snowandrain | May 11, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Clinton has nothing to do with why democrats will vote for McCain in November. The far left liberals like Obama even scare many democrats who would rather vote for a centrist republican like McCain.
Posted by: Jason | May 11, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Jason said it very well.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 11, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
rodney, didn’t you know, she worked in China to help build The Great Wall, that was to keep out all of the republicans!…
Posted by: Joe | May 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
rodney for many of us it is not about winning. it is about doing the right thing-called democracy. i cannot respect a party or its candidate that does otherwise. otherwise we are no better than the republicans we criticized over florida.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 11, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Rob – You are both correct and mistaken.
You are absolutely correct in that Obama is likely to win more delegates in the primaries, and there is absolutely no double they have run a brilliant campaign in the current atmosphere. On the other hand, advisors to the Clinton campaign completely misjudged their strategy and incomprehensibly ignored caucuses, and mismanaged resources in Iowa. As is now, it is inconceivable for the dems establishments to strip away Obama’s nomination, even though the so-called superdelegates can and are supposed to choose the candidate who is most likely to win the general election.
The reason is obvious.
So, the party loyalists should support and cheer for their nominee.
The rest of people who some times vote in the dems primaries and some times they don’t – the so-called swing voters, or the so-called Reagan dems, or the so-labeled “poor, less-educated, bitter” voters will decide who they will vote for based on principles or “values” that most aligned to themselves. They are not the party loyalists, but they are the group who ultimately determines the outcome of a general election. By the way, most of people in this group have guns and go to churches.
If you believe Obama is the “best” qualified person who is most likely to win support of this group of voters, then, you obviously have known something that many of us do not know. It would be good if you could enlighten us.
You are also mistaken because the overall contest between Obama and the rest of the dems candidates is nothing but “fair and square”. The first problem is “race”. If anyone criticizes, or praises, Obama, as long as that person is his potential opponent, he and his supporters will use all means of twisted words to label that person to be a racist, or to have said something racist. Secondly, Obama, besides his incredible financial support, has benefited unparalleled free commercial throughout his campaign. The talking heads in essentially all commercial networks, and public broadcasting stations, have promoted him 24 hours a day to a point that whatever speeches Obama makes would make them feeling tingled between their legs.
You have so-called political “commentators”, especially every minutes of air time needs to have a black person present, who either openly support Obama, or anonymously support Obama, to analyze what is “Wright” or right for Obama.
The result is that Obama barely gained just less than 100 delegates out of nearly 4500. If you believe any one of the original group of dems candidates (perhaps minus one) had had such a favorable medium treatment, and FREE COMMERCIALS, would have win a clear majority, you certainly are living in an Obama planet.
The bottom line is that the media has created an empty figure, and a lot of people who would have voted for any dems candidate in the general election will take a serious look at McCain, who is in fact very attractive to these “poor, less-educated, bitter” voters. If anything, it is McCain who probably will get things done as a President, rather than Obama who has shown not even a single record of cooperation in legislation with the other party. It is almost certain, any important legislation from Obama will be filibustered by the Republican minority in the Senate.
You tell us what would be a reasonable choice in the general election.
Posted by: fat cat | May 11, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
It is the moral responsibility of all Americans to question their leaders. Senator Obama and his campaign have said “move on”, no more questions about character, his philosophy, or his religious beliefs. Yet, these are questions that every President gets asked. When we asked these questions of Senator Obama, we are called racists. Tonight I heard a speech that Mrs. Obama gave saying that “we all live with fear everyday”. What a misconception or false impression she has of Americans. Her husband said we cling to our religion because we are bitter and then apologized when he realizes what came out of his mouth. His wife said, she has “never been proud of this country” and then says she hopes that statement has not offended any body. I believe these statements are revealing and they come from the radical black theology church that both of these individuals have attended for over 20 years. Obama is not Presidential material.
Posted by: Anne | May 11, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
rodney, I live in Ohio! land of the nuts!!!
if she is as good as people say, then why is she losing? well, lost!
Her and Bill are the 2 scariest people on the planet, they think they deserve this!
Posted by: Joe | May 11, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Anne, you completely summed it up. This country will not vote for Obama and will NOT allow his hate filled wife near the Whitehouse.
Posted by: Goodnight | May 11, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
It seems like the media is fickle. I’m not sure why Team Obama has the edge. After all, they have an inexperienced candidate with little to no appreciation of this country. He is surrounded by individuals who are racists and terrorists (Wright, Michelle Obama,Ayers,)…He is an elitist. He makes a big deal about wearing a flag lapel… I can’t believe the Democratic party would even overwhelming endorse Obama to run this country. What a shame! If the non-African American folks in Iowa and Missouri had the information we now have on him, they would not have caucased him. I’m a life long Democrat. I say let Hillary Clinton stick around as long as she wants to.
Posted by: Stacy | May 11, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Allan_Osuno said: ABCnewsreader: if you are going to vote McCain if Obama gets nominated, you’re not a Democrat but really a Republican.
Allan: You’re argument is without merit. It assumes that if one is a Democrat, one gives up independent judgment regarding the choice of candidates. I am a lifelong Democrat who has never voted for a Republican for President. However, I am not a zombie. I can make choices. And, if Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, and the choice is between a centrist Republican, and an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist Obama, then I must make an exception to my usual voting pattern and vote for McCain. When and if the Democratic Party re-establishes itself as the party that does not rationalize racism and disenfranchisement, and if it fields a candidate who I can honestly support, then I will again vote for that Democratic candidate.
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
McCain genuinely loves America because he risked his own life even becoming POW for his country while Obama embedded hateful anti-American sermons into his head.
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I find it hard to believe that McCain Loves this country, or it’s vets, because he has steadfastly REFUSED to sign onto the GI Bill hasn’t he? This bill is non-partisan, while at the same time Obama is in SUPPORT of the new GI Bill. I wonder WHY McCain won’t support the new GI Bill. Now other Republicans are starting to criticize him for not supporting the new GI Bill.
Posted by: Tammi_J | May 11, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
loyalty to democracy before loyalty to the party. the democratic party no longer represents my views, thats all. no big deal. i am the party, the party is not me. i decide which values, issues, and which candidate best represent my own. i do not owe ‘the party anything’. i did not leave the party the party left me. the fat cats have made it crystal clear that they do not want, or need my vote. they are the new party-that is destined to become a little third party made up of blacks, youth, elites, and party fat cats-i am neither of the above.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 11, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Haywood,
Don’t be so cynical about these White Americans who voted for their current president. Perhaps, they have learned a hard lesson, and make sure they do not vote another hypocrite who will do anything and say anything to make you feel-good before the election.
If they indeed have learned their lesson, BO will have no chance in November.
Posted by: joe daley, Chicago | May 11, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
ObamaKnew: Good comment. I believe that if Hillary is not the Democratic nominee, the party elite are going to get a big surprise in November when their messiah is defeated by voters within their own party.
Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist Obama — NEVER.
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
OlderPerson: I’m afraid that it is much too late for the party elite to convince us not to damage Obama’s prospects in the coming general election. The polls show that around 28% of Hillary Clinton supporters WILL NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances. I believe that by the time this whole debacle is over, that number will rise. Couple that with the millions of Independents and others who also have an aversion to racism, and Obama’s chance in November don’t look very good.
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Responding to “older person” ‘s thread: I’m not sure what planet John Edward’s is on. Obama doesn’t represent at least two thirds of the people’s views. He is a divisive candidate who has mentors who are racist and are anti-american. So, why in the world would we want to elect or endorse Mr. Obama? If the Democratic Party wants to win at all cost, then they are setting themselves for failure in the long run.
Posted by: stacy | May 11, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
The Michigan Democrats offered a solution to the MI vote. Obama agreed to it. IT WAS HILLARY THAT REJECTED THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS SOLUTION. So quit complaining about MI & FL since Hillary obviously just wants to use them a devisive tool to keep any arguement she has left open. If she cared about them, she would agree with the solution they offered.
Posted by: Jeanie | May 11, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
she will overcome no matter what the media tell’s us we know she is the only one who can win
Posted by: sean | May 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Obama is winning the democratic nomination because unlike Hillary, he has shown that he can handle the personal attacks and not resort to bringing up her dirty laundry. If Hillary had conducted herself like a lady and not resorted to dirty underhanded tactics and allowed her campaign to start using the issue of race to divide and conquer, she most likely would have been a shoe in. But she ran a terrible campaign and has tried to undermine the character, experience and used his aquaintances to try to make Obama look unelectable. The sad thing is if Obama had chose to use the same sort of tactics against her, she would not even be around this long. If we all stood back and actually looked at the characters of all three candidates, we would all come to understand why Obama has caused such a positive movement in this country. Hillary had her chance but she blew it.
Posted by: Linda | May 11, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
I support Obama and I would love to see him win in November against McCain. But if he does not I will be sad but also happy at the same time. Why? Because Hillary and Bill will NOT be in the White House. If you really love Hillary then support her. Obama supporters love him and they show it by supporting his campaign.
Posted by: Evoniel | May 11, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
To: Al –FL.and MI. were warned ahead of time that if they held their primarys early that it would not count.But…being like naughty children..they wanted their cake early and can not understand why they are not invited to the main party.
Posted by: orange cat | May 11, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Hillary’s only strategy is to make sure democrats loss in fall.
Posted by: catiger | May 11, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
It’s a time and a place for everything in life. Maybe it’s not Hillary’s time to be President at this particular time in history. That’s not to say it want be later down the road. The time is now for Barack Obama. It’s been a long time coming but a CHANGE is gonna come.
Posted by: Evoniel | May 11, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Teddy,
I’m with you. I suggested if she is not the nominee, go Independent and we will vote for her as well.
I hope she won’t be his VP.
If she accept become his VP, I will not vote for him.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Rodney
You make me lol! But I agree with you 100%
Posted by: Evoniel | May 11, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Hillary your party is over. You did a great job, and now let’s move forward.
Posted by: me | May 11, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Like it or not, Obama has changed the political landscape. To view this election and say he has win this state or that state is presumptuous. Sen Clinton tried that strategy in the primary and it hasn’t gone so well.
No doubt, it’s a different game in Nov with different rules, but there has not been a campaign managed as well as Obama’s in decades. To rule him out because Hillary says you need a particular state is foolish. Hopefully the GOP will make the same mistake as Sen Clinton. No offense intended, but he did school her in campaigning a 50 state strategy.
That’s no indictment of Hillary, just of the campaign staff which she selected. Poor planning and underestimating her opponent probably cost her the Presidency.
And FL & MI? Sen Clinton and her staff were well aware of the “not counting” situation before the election started. They agreed to it. They should have worked a strategy that took it into consideration.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for Hillary, she’s just a politician like the other two, but I know her supporters are disappointed.
Posted by: Dave | May 11, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Evoniel,
Yes, a time for” change” for washington politic into new politic runs by rich people, educated, young people.
Left the rural,urban, poor people,uneducated, old people, working class people behind.
Good luck with that.
Becareful what you wish for.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Rodney said: the first thing hillary must do is divorce and disown dirtbag willy for he is her proverbal albatross.
Rodney: You are either very young and don’t remember the Clinton years, or you are even more brainwashed than I thought. What was it you didn’t like about the Clinton Presidency; was it the peace or the prosperity?
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Dave said: Like it or not, Obama has changed the political landscape.
Yes Dave, it is the first time in my adult life that the Democratic Party may nominate an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist candidate. That most certainly is a “change.” Unfortunately for Obama, this is a change that millions of Democrats will not tolerate.
Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist Obama – NEVER
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Kim,
If he has enough experience why all the commentators started to discuss who is the best for his VP because they think he is inexperience ?
He just be lucky because he has lots of money and gets support from all rich people.
Posted by: blue Irish | May 11, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I have spoken to a number of Hillary supporters who are getting tired of Hilary and wish that this race would just get on with it. They are disappointed but feel that she had her chance and did not take advantage early. I have my own opinion but will just pass this on for now.
Posted by: spoon2456 | May 11, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Rodney: Your statement about the Clinton years is right from the Republican/Bush/Rove playbook. I applaud you for fessing up to your true political philosophy. Karl Rove would be proud.
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Spoon: Millions more of us want her to keep going until the end, wherever that will take us. And, if she is not the nominee, then we will do whatever it takes to defeat the inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, and racist Obama.
Posted by: Sally | May 11, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I heard on FoxNews that Obama and the DNC are trying to ensure that all of Obama’s debates with McCain are conducted without reporters in the room. Did I hear this correct?
Posted by: ConnectDots | May 12, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
rodney
Most people hate change. Think about the people who use to use typewriters, they did not want to change to computers. But it happen! And it’s going to happen with Barack Obama. It’s time for a Change. And as far as experience goes…look what we end up with for the pass 8 years.
Posted by: Evoniel | May 12, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
does anyone actually know what change barack obama is talking about? If someone knows can you please tell us
Posted by: andrea | May 12, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Andrea said: does anyone actually know what change barack obama is talking about? If someone knows can you please tell us.
I’ll tell you. “Change” means that Obama will change things. He will get things done. He will change the way things are being done. He will bring us all into the promised land. He will heal the sick and feed the poor. He is our messiah . . . . .
Posted by: Evoniel | May 12, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Republicans are delighted to have Obama as the nominee. He’s no debator; he just repeats the same lofty rhetoric over and over again, pausing dramatically at alternate phrases. (The MLK cadence is creepy). His associations are frightening; his politics are pure socialism. Hillary would have given McCain a run for his money. I am glad, for that reason, the Democrats are putting forth their slicker, more attractive version of Dukakis this year.
Posted by: diana estrich | May 12, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
why cant barack obama seal the deal? why are 200plus superdelegates still wavering?
Posted by: andrea | May 12, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Yesterday I had the priviledge of hearing a Texas super delegate speak, (former speaker of the House). His words were “don’t let them fool you with all the talk, Hillary STILL HAS a chance”. We need to continue to support her.
Posted by: Texas Lil | May 12, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
So months later I’m reading these blogs on ABC…and there are some new voices on here. Some of them are racist and profane, some of them are angry and wistful….most of them were Democrats when the primary started.
I would say they remain evenly divided…and nothing like reconciliation is in sight. But then again no one has gotten the nomination yet.
My best guess from my friends here at home is that 1/4 will stay at home and 1/4 will vote McCain.
This really has nothing to do with the Clintons….It is about Rev Wright and Obama sitting in that Church for 20 years. Most of Hillary’s voters would have voted Obama in the general. Not now it really is about the Rev and all the things that Obama heard over the years and finally disagreed with when it looked like it could cost him the election. Rev Wright is not an issue of race…and I believe that when Obama demanded that America have a discussion about “race” that he was doing us all a great disservice.
How do you like the conversation so far? And why exactly do you blame Hillary?
Posted by: Jackie | May 12, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Senator Obama and Senator Clinton have somwehat similar policy statements but Senator Clinton’s character traits reflect American values. I will be voting for Senator Clinton if possible, otherwise I will vote for Senator McCain. I will never, never, vote for Obama’s socialist/Marxists’ agenda. Obama does not represent my interest one bite.
Posted by: Mary | May 12, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I would never vote to put that Michelle in the WH
This is the woman who took her children to church to see wright cursing from the pulpit and talking about Bill Clinton and doing that “humpin”scene.
Their children should be taken away from them , They are unfit parents !
Posted by: Cathy in Indiana | May 12, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
I found interesting the comment that since Obama has already “won”, he should stop campaigning. Why go to Oregon or Montana?! Let’s dare him. Let the political commentators that are so fond of Obama suggest this course. The fact is that Obama has not won. Out of the last five primaries he’s lost 4. He won North Carolina, and all of a sudden he’s declared the winner. It reminds me of boxing matches, where the referee wants to defend a loser, and seeks to find any excuse to stop the fight and declare his favorite the winner. This is just what Russert, Oberman, Matthews and a bunch of others have been trying to do. Let’s ask for a fair fight and for fair referees!
Posted by: Luis | May 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
“does anyone actually know what change barack obama is talking about? If someone knows can you please tell us”
Answer:
Healthcare: available to all, mandated for children (in case you don’t, the middle class suffers the most right now regarding health care. The poorest of us get medicaid, but working poor “make too much” to qualify. As a single mom, my son & I went without health care for 3 years because I made too much-$1700/month. Now I make more, have it provided for myself, and pay for his.)
Corporations: Get their grip off our country. Stop treating them as “citizens.”
Iraq: Retreat responsibly and spend those dollars here.
Jobs: Don’t reward companies for sending them overseas.
Taxes: It is an embarrassment that we have a government during war time cutting taxes! And putting us in debt! Raise the taxes on the upper class, back to the 90′s level.
Foreign Relations: Hold talks, respect the U.N.
Energy: Decrease our dependence on foreign oil. Remember the tax cuts Bush gave for buying SUVs? Try tax cuts for fuel efficiency.
Oil: Don’t let the companies get away with robbing us blind.
Education: FUND “NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND” OR DROP IT. And provide service/tuition exchange for students.
That’s the first few things I can think of right off the bat. Does that help?
Posted by: Gina | May 12, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Last I heard there are still some states left to vote in the primary. Before anything rash happends lets see how it plays out.
Posted by: Entity | May 12, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Luis,
After NC he won he thought he can declare he is the winner, all over the media said Hillary was over.
He found out Hillary has never given up until now.
He started to campaign again in OR not in WV and KY because he think he is loosing over those states.
Tomorrow he is going to campaign in WV and KY , I heard.
That’s why,,,never predict too soon.
Still have many undecided Super D, Mr Obama…
Posted by: catleya | May 12, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Give em hell Hillary! We need a fighter not a slacker.
Posted by: Mack | May 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Its hard to get a strong woman to give up on any fight; so take life as a lesson to just let it fizzle out. You won’t change their minds and any point you try to make is lost. Not saying they are stubborn, but they see things in their own time and you have to let that happen without recharging the combat. I understand that it would have been great to say you lived during and even voted for the first female president, but there is more at stake than that and it probably won’t happen this time. We need to focus on who and what we are trying to replace. If you sincerely believe that McCain is better for this country than Obama, cast your vote with pride. This is America; everyone has a right to their opinion. I just hope that even if you have to settle for a different choice than your first, you replace that vote for AMERICA FIRST.
Posted by: MrMajek62 | May 12, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Timothy,
Excellent information.
That’s why I support her all the way.
Thanks.
Posted by: catleya | May 12, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
I will absolutely under no circumstance, unless Hillary agrees to be the V.P. will I vote for Obama. I am a life long Democrat and I will vote for John McCain. No questions asked…there is nothing he can do to make me vote for him. If Hillary is not on that ticket there is nothing she can say either that will make me vote for him. I am a Hillary supporter all the way and I am so darn angry at the Demcoratic Party, Dean, Pelosi, those two big windbags, Kennedy and Dodd and Kerry. Oh my goodness I had to make myself like him when he ran.
Posted by: vicki | May 12, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
I’m with you Michael. I’ll vote for McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination. I would recommend this to those who intend to write in Hillary’s name or not voting at all. If Hillary is not the nominee, then vote for McCain to increase his chances of winning against what’s his name!!!
Posted by: ForHillary08 | May 12, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
When I Was first able to vote, I registered as a Republican. When I got tired of being lied to I thought about switching to the Democrats but I am not female, a minority or completely uneducated and was made to feel that I had some kind of penance to do before I would be welcomed into the ranks. Now I’m an Independent, I vote for who and what I believe in. Period.
Having said that, I believe that Sen. Clinton has enough of a voter base that she has no choice but to see this through to the end. I don’t think she should drop out. But should she win, I still won’t vote for her.
I have seen more legal evasion and pubic manipulation from the Clintons than I have seen in Republican campaigns with the exception of dubya. I have no problem with writing Sen. Obama in or who ever I decide that I believe (if only partially) in. Now, I’ve seen people stating that they are Democrats and that they will vote McCain if Sen. Clinton looses that nomination.
Welcome to the ranks of the Independent. Get used to people telling you that your vote doesn’t count because you are voting your beliefs instead of a party line. I would suggest that you follow my lead on one thing tho, write in. If you aren’t going to vote for someone who has the full backing of what’s left of the Democratic party then at least vote for what you believe in.
Voting for spite or not voting at all… now THAT’S a wasted vote.
Posted by: Russ | May 12, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
I didn’t pick Obama this past February because I really believe that the Democratic primaries are completely biased.
It’s easy for everyone to pounce on Hillary because of her ties to Bill Clinton. But everyone is so quick to ignore Obama’s ties with Rev. Wright, which might come back to haunt him either in November or on Inauguration Day. And the real reason Obama has made it this far is because of the assholes in his campaign that made everything about his color. (“Anyone who talks about the Black freshman is a racist!”)
Nope, I’m not jumping on the Obama bandwagon. Hilary is doing the honorable thing of sticking to her word of not giving up.
Posted by: Mr. Semaj | May 12, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Also, if Obama turns down the “Dream Ticket”, that’ll prove once and for all how hypocritical his whole campaign is.
Posted by: Mr. Semaj | May 12, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Hillary will be the nominee!!
Obama is just being push through by the DNC.
Hillary is the right chice…
Posted by: jt best choice | May 12, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
Obama is scared to debate. Why? If he thinks he is the best candidate, why so scared with Hillary?
Hillary 08!!
Posted by: jt best choice | May 12, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
russ if you write-in your candidate of choice it goes to the nominee of that party right? i agree with you about independent status.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 12, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
For Hillary, it is all about ME. Some people just don’t know when to leave.
Posted by: klin | May 12, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
as a life-long multi-generational democrat i will absolutely vote for mccain if hillary does not win the nomination. i have no reservations at all. for several reasons for one; i trust who i know, i know john mccain, baggage and all. i like his position on immigration-he advocates for border security, while never being racist, and incurred the wrath of his own party for sticking by his convictions. he has adopted children. he served his country and was a prisoner of war. i owe the democratic party nothing. and yes i agree with poster, independent is the way to go.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 12, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
MAY good point. should make for fun viewing. looks like they cooked up a bad batch of koolaide tonight eh! i really do believe that some of ‘the followers’ are going to be very, very, bitter come november lol. bitter koolaide, makes your lips pucker.
Posted by: sonia trevino | May 12, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
I hope the pantsuit lady stays in until the end. I for one love her will and determination and hard work. One of the many reasons I voted for her.
Posted by: J | May 12, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
For those who wrote so much crap about this lady, she has done much more than those in their life time. After this campaign, win or loss, you have nothing to compare.
The Obama fanatics are sore losers looking at this lady in her eyes. She is way above you that is why the fanatics are destined to be losers throwing venoms, and skewed views of the world.
I see an all American in this lady who has been working so hard and never quit with determination and everything she has got to fight. The respect those fanatics never understand. For what we care, nobody has a right to ask her anything. She owe nobody nothing.
She is in the race. Turnig up the clock, moving up the goal post, quitting debates, disenfranchising voters tell us that the party is all communists and filth.
Lately that knuckle head, bird brained Ted talked about the VP. Hillary has enough money to live comfortably for the rest of her life. Nobody has the quality to be his president; she already has one and the best. Forget it.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 12, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am
Al: McCain is going to win regardless. This election was the Democrats to lose, and from what I’ve read, we’re managing to do it. HRC supporters say they won’t vote for Obama and vice versa. They say they will either vote for McCain or Nader. So McCain wins. So much for caring for the problems of our country. Is it a personal thing only? I keep hearing–’I don’t like him’ or ‘I don’t like her’. I guess that should be followed by ‘and I don’t care that the war will go on and on, and I don’t care that gasoline prices go higher and higher, and, while I’m sitting on the curb because I just lost my home, I can think about how glad I am that I didn’t vote for ____.’ (Fill in the blank with HRC or BO) Think about it!!!
Posted by: Lindy | May 12, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
Stay in until the end, Hillary. We are with you. DNC count all of the votes and not just the ones that give you the outcome you want. As a lifelong Democratic, I am disappointed. Go Hillary or McCain.
Posted by: kittyCat | May 12, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Well said Lindy, but remember, it isn’t as simple as voters personalizing on these threads, it’s also the “witch hunt” (not a reflection on Hillary personally before some smart butt comments)by the Main stream Media with their negative reporting and the fact that Dean doesn’t hide the fact that, personally, he can’t stand the Clintons…so it’s understandable he tries to block the FL & MI votes. He shouldn’t let his ego get in the way!
Hillary is the only candidate with the experience and capability of running the country and the only one to beat McCain! I just hope the remaining states go her way, with a slam dunk!!!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Di | May 12, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Ok….here comes the manufactured scandal on Obama.
They have to make up something to stick so he will lose. This is not something that actually happened, just something so sinister so people won’t vote for him.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | May 12, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
I hope after November we never see or hear from Obama ever again! Remember Michelle said he could only run once. She better stick with that!
Hillary or McCain
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
For the few million more she blows on her exit strategy, she’ll make it up in speaking engagements. I’m glad she’s done. It would be too hard to accept an unethical person who has trouble telling the truth in the White House.
Posted by: CWatson | May 12, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
justseeme,
One could only hope. My HOPE for Obama is that he loses and goes back to wherever he came from.
Posted by: J | May 12, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
CWatson,
So what do you think Obama is?
Posted by: J | May 12, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
REALITY CHECK FOR HILLARY SUPPORTERS!
LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND TELL YOURSELF THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS “BLUE- COLLAR,” THAT SHE DEPENDS ON A “PAY-CHECK” OR THAT SHE CAN TRULY RELATE TO HER SUPPORTERS, WITH A LITTLE “EMOTIONS & TEARS” – ACTOR! THE LADY HAS A $109,000,000.00 TRUST FUND (The Tax & Liability Avoidance Fund) She is a LAWIER & an acknowledged liar.
The bottom line is : WOULD YOU SEND YOUR CHILD TO HILLARY’S OVAL OFFICE AS AN INTERN, TO BE MENTORED & COACHED – KNOWING THAT THE “EXPERIENCED & PROFESSIONAL” “FIRST HUSBAND” IS THERE, READY AND WILLING TO HELP? Have some self respect, do it for the DEMOCRATS and for the USA. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 12, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Do you think the Lady in the Pantsuit has been working on her concession speach?
Posted by: LongT | May 12, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Obama is from Illinois, corrupted state
with one governor sitting in jail while sitting governor is on the way to jail.
As the state senator, he did not
contribute to legislature much.
In Chicago, Obama has endorsed 2 local politicians:
Cook County President Todd Stroger
and aldermen Dorothy Tillman.
Todd Stroger, incompetent and the worst county president ever, made Cook County the most taxable county in the country.
Dorothy Tillmann was promoted agenda
of reparations paid to African American
by white people, which is very much in line with Jeremiah Right message. As an alderman, she did not do much, and brought her ward to
complete blight and disrepair.
How come, Obama, member of corrupted
Chicago political machine will go to Washington to change the Washington?
Give us a break!
Posted by: Alex | May 12, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
LongT,
No. Why would she?
Posted by: J | May 12, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
It’s over Hillary. Give it up and try again in 2012
Posted by: Bob | May 12, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
‘Tis so true: denial is not just a river. It is now a whole State. I, too, admire the tenacity of Senator Clinton, but lte’s face it, in every competition there comes a time when there is a loser and a winner and the loser has to know when to fold. Senator Clinton is now running on pure adrenaline and pride. She is searching for the best get-out plan without the fall. If you take a good look at her face, you will see her smile looks out of place, and if you look closer it’s easy to trace the tracks of her tears. She could have done this whole campaign differently, but alas, it is too late. The biggest mistake Senator Clinton and her campaign machinery made was to seriously underestimate the impact of the Obama mania. She should have seen it coming if only she had paid attention to his 2004 campaign and how they hailed the man. It’s a brand new day and brand new way forward – Yes We Can!
Posted by: exatlantic | May 12, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
It’s the economy stupid! GO HILLARY!!!
Posted by: reality08 | May 12, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Lake Hart, yes we want what is best for the USA and that will be John McCain, if not Hillary. Not some newcomer with 1 year on the national level. If he wanted my vote, he would have taken his own advice and gotten enough experience to have a record to run on. He jumped the gun.
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
America’s founders believed that the future of Democracy required a well educated electorate. Most of the blogs I read provide more evidence of the gross failure of our education system. I fear for our nation.
Posted by: gc | May 12, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Will someone explain Hope to me, what are you hoping for and change, just exactly what do you want changed? Thanks
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Just…HOPE: expectation, desire supported by confidence.
Posted by: tellthetruth | May 12, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
tell the truth: what are you hoping for?
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
The ignorance of Obama supporters is mind-blowing. Do you really believe that Hillary’s only qualification was serving as First Lady? Or do you just hope that the readers here are stupid enough to fall for that?
She has an extensive U.S. Senate record plus 35 years of achievements in the public arena. She has worked tirelessly her entire adult life for the betterment of America.
You have internet access; use it. She’s an amazing woman. On top of it all, she’s a strong woman whose fortitude puts most men to shame.
Just keep slamming the Clintons if you want to. It won’t earn Obama any votes.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Obama sounds just like Bush!!!!! Be careful of who you vote for.
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
At least Obama doesn’t have all the lobbyists in his back pocket like Hillary and McCain. Hillary is politics as usual, Obama is change. The ignorance of the American public is mindblowing.
Posted by: TR | May 12, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
What do you want changed?
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Hillary Clinton is not the brave marathon runner who is a mile behind the leader, with two mile to go, whose only hope is if the leader breaks a leg. This marathon runner is showing “true grit” by running to complete the race and defeat the 26+ miles, if not theother human opponents.
Hillary is the hockey player whose team is being defeated soundly with just minutes to go, and says “OK, you want to win this game, it is going to cost you” and is taking cheap shots at the other players, starting fights, and making it good for his fans, but hell for everyone else.
Posted by: Nick in Virginia | May 12, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
The MEDIA is obviously pro-Obama… since when do intellegent people believe anything and everything the media feeds them?
My question would be WHY? What is the ‘media agenda’ which I doubt has anything to do with what is BEST or RIGHT for this country.
I would rather consider a candidate that I know can stand strong even while being put through the fires of hell. Than to blindly support someone that has very little back ground as a leader of anything ‘sweet talk their way to the White House.’
Has any of you ever seen The Puppet Master?
Posted by: SlySonya | May 12, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Clinton supporters are behind her because of issues and policies. We just cannot sell this country out. We believe in our hearts and souls that Obama will be a major mistake. Young people act on whims and fads. Blacks unite with blacks, not with the whole country. If you want to unite the whole country vote for Clinton. She has a real record of uniting whites and blacks and people of every race.
Posted by: carlanbl | May 12, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
The media, the DNC, and the Democratic Party elite have been trying to shove Obama down our throats for many months now. In spite of this, Hillary Clinton is still very close in delegates, and will possibly surpass Obama in the popular vote. If Obama is the nominee, then I will vote Republican for the first time in my life. Better a centrist Republican, than an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist Obama. For the good of America, Obama must be stopped!
Posted by: Edith | May 12, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
SlySonia said: The MEDIA is obviously pro-Obama… since when do intellegent people believe anything and everything the media feeds them?
My question would be WHY? What is the ‘media agenda’ which I doubt has anything to do with what is BEST or RIGHT for this country.
I HAVE BEEN WONDERING THE SAME THING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. The same corporate media which promoted and protected Bush for so long, is now promoting and protecting Obama.
I’ve been a Democrat all my life, but I could never vote for Obama. If not Hillary in November, then McCain.
Posted by: Susan | May 12, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
I think Obama has a better chance of changing things because he doesn’t have as much corruption experience as the other 2. Nobody’s perfect. There’s no one person that will change everything. But McCain and Hillary are both just another Bush.
Posted by: TR | May 12, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Why does everyone feel that they have to vote only for 1 of 2 people ? These are 2 people that the government is throwing at us to begin with.
Posted by: TR | May 12, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Those Democrats who will not vote for Obama will not do so because he is an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, race card playing and racist candidate. We love our families and love our country, more than we love the Democratic Party. It is a matter of principle. If it results in the defeat of Obama in November, should he be the nominee, then all the better.
Posted by: Sharon | May 12, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Hillary keep fighting its not over untill the convention. If the superdelgates want to give it to Obama who pastor said New Yorkers had 911 comming. He has another thing coming. New yorkers will not forget 911 nor will we vote for someone who degrades us. Hillary 08 if not then Mcain.
Posted by: chris | May 12, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Hillary keep fighting its not over untill the convention. If the superdelgates want to give it to Obama who pastor said New Yorkers had 911 comming. He has another thing coming. New yorkers will not forget 911 nor will we vote for someone who degrades us. Hillary 08 if not then Mcain.
Posted by: chris | May 12, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Hillary will suck the bone marrow from a baby if it meant getting the nomination.. She is “Tom Cruise-Crazy”.
Posted by: Juan A | May 12, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Hillary give it up already, u lost!! Be a good little girl and drop out!
Posted by: Matt | May 12, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Hillary Clinton: TOASTED!She is a Big Loser!
Posted by: Matt | May 12, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Those Democrats who will not vote for Obama will not do so because he is an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, race card playing and racist candidate. We love our families and love our country, more than we love the Democratic Party. It is a matter of principle. If it results in the defeat of Obama in November, should he be the nominee, then all the better.
Posted by: Sally | May 12, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
I’m a white middle aged man, I could only vote for Obama or maybe my father again. I always hated the Clintons and I never trusted them.
Posted by: TR | May 12, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Get down and get real….
Do you people truly believe that little miss or mr sunshine and purity will shake Washington DC? They would be a midday snack and belched like a fart in the wind….
REAL CHANGE will only be accomplished by someone that KNOWS the game and KNOWS how to FIGHT no matter what!!
WE need a leader that doesn’t consider the word QUIT and doesn’t run and HIDE when the BIG DOGS bark.
The Republicans FEAR Hillary and they SHOULD. I have NO DOUBT that ‘change’ will only happen in ‘DC’ when a politically savvy and true fighter is willing to STAND when so many hate them simply because they FEAR the CHANGE this person is capable of achieving.
YOU WANT CHANGE, VOTE FOR HILLARY
Posted by: SlySonya | May 12, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
I realize now that I am wrong. Obama had me suckered for a while, but now I understand that he is inexperienced, deceptive and divisive. I hope it’s not too late.
Posted by: TR | May 12, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
I didn’t realize that so many people knew Hillary on such a personal level….
Because, I would hate to think that your flagrant words are the product of MEDIA BRAINWASHING.
I have pointed out why Hillary is the true candidate for change. I have NEVER said one word about OBAMA as a ‘person’
HATE doesn’t sway people to you…it steers them in the other direction.
So, all of you obvious Hillary haters keep it up she will appreicate the votes you send her way.
Posted by: SlySonya | May 12, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
The media, the DNC and the Democratic Party elite has tried to shove Obama down our throats for many months now. In spite of this, Hillary is still fighting hard to protect this country against the most deceptive and divisive candidate in modern history. Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry and the rest of the party establishment are going to get a big surprise in November, should Obama be the Democratic nominee, when he is soundly defeated by voters crossing over to McCain from their own party. We Democrats who will not sit idly by and let this dangerous wing of the party seize control will fight on, because we love our families and our country more than the Democratic Party, which is now only a shadow of the party of hope and promise it purports to represent.
Posted by: Susan | May 12, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I don’t think joining Democrats or Republicans is any “Party”. The election system and parties need a complete overhaul.
Posted by: Jake | May 12, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I will not let my vote be dictated by the biased news media, nor by Obama supporters who have played the race card at every turn, nor by Obama supporters who have tried to get Hillary to quit the campaign before the primaries have been completed, nor by superdelegates, such as Richardson, who are looking for a piece of the pie to further their own interests and careers.
The Democrat Party has created this mess: Skewed caucuses, disenfranchisement of voters in Michigan and Florida, and the superdelegate process which allows those people to endorse before the Convention. Stop the process that allows such superdelegates to receive money and influence for their careers by attempts to stop the state primary process. Instead of worrrying so much about bringing in new young voters to the process because they are in awe of Obama, they should be more concerned that many of the “old people”, “old women”, and “uneducated whites”, who have built the Party will bolt, even permanently leave, the Party.For too long, too many of the above have sought to dictate that Hillary quit and crown Obama king. We are not giving up, and we are standing up for the strongest candidate. Obama is so inexperienced, and is deeply lacking on knowledge of the issues.
There are some deeply held principles at work here. The rights of all the people are at stake. Lifelong Democrats stand on those principles. The Party is at a big crossroads. Mend the process, or lose.
Calling voters “uneducated whites” is just asking for trouble. Do we hear anyone labeling a group “uneducated blacks”? How elitest some people are. They dare to state who is educated and who is not. What wisdom!
Posted by: georgia | May 12, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Keep fighting on Hillary! America needs more division, more boasting without any backing and more of Bill’s immature behavior. Keep on. The only thing bigger than your ego is your mouth, and surely both will survive the wreckage you are creating, even if your party doesn’t!!!
Posted by: terri | May 12, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
I will not let my vote be dictated by the biased news media, nor by Obama supporters who have played the race card at every turn, nor by Obama supporters who have tried to get Hillary to quit the campaign before the primaries have been completed, nor by superdelegates, such as Richardson, who are looking for a piece of the pie to further their own interests and careers.The Democrat Party has created this mess: Skewed caucuses, disenfranchisement of voters in Michigan and Florida, and the superdelegate process which allows those people to endorse before the Convention. Stop the process that allows such superdelegates to receive money and influence for their careers by attempts to stop the state primary process. Instead of worrrying so much about bringing in new young voters to the process because they are in awe of Obama, they should be more concerned that many of the “old people”, “old women”, and “uneducated whites”, who have built the Party will bolt, even permanently leave, the Party.For too long, too many of the above have sought to dictate that Hillary quit and crown Obama king. We are not giving up, and we are standing up for the strongest candidate. Obama is so inexperienced, and is deeply lacking on knowledge of the issues.There are some deeply held principles at work here. The rights of all the people are at stake. Lifelong Democrats stand on those principles. The Party is at a big crossroads. Mend the process, or lose.Calling voters “uneducated whites” is just asking for trouble. Do we hear anyone labeling a group “uneducated blacks”? How elitest some people are. They dare to state who is educated and who is not. What wisdom!
Posted by: georgia | May 12, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
West Virginia, Coal mining, Ninety-five% white, second-highest state with those over 65, fifth poorest state, bible belt, gun-toting, in which greater than 50% of the population is functionally illiterate or cannot read above the level of an 8th grader….yep, this is Clinton country, all right. Hillary is simply not honest. She said she was under fire in Bosnia when she got off the plane. She also said that a hospital turned away a needy patient. The hospital called her on it. Now she’s so inept that her campaign is 20 MILLION in Debt… Do we want another delusional President whose MEGALOMANIA allows her to lie to HERSELF AND the AMERICAN PEOPLE? Dump Hillary, Now.
Posted by: dwightXEisenhower | May 12, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I would be willing to bet that most Democrats did not vote for George Bush, the senior or the shrub. You show your real color by denigrating what you call “Hillary-Hard working-you know ‘White Americans’”. You also show a great deal of ignorance of the political process. This is all about choosing the best and most qualified experienced candidate. It is not about black or white except when some people choose to throw that in the discussion. No, it is not about black or white. It is about “green”.
Posted by: georgia | May 12, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
For all those who say that Clinton had it sooooo difficult in all this, NONSENSE!
Obama beat Clinton without having to use the same guilt by association tactics she tries to use against him. Not once did the Obama campaign bring up the old garbage from the 90′s about whitewater or her “friends” Jim & Susan McDougal or Vince Foster. We never heard about filegate, or travelgate. We heard next to nothing about the state of many of the towns in Clinton’s own district that have only sunk further into a state of depression over the last 16 years of Clinton leadership beginning with Bill’s presidency through Hillary’s senate career. Her presidential campaign was sunk relatively easily even without bringing up the nasty stuff of the Clinton’s past.
Posted by: BPP | May 12, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Hillary has not had it bad! give me a break. This woman has fooled so many people and they think she really cares & understands the “blue collar” worker….give me a break. How much $$ have the Billarys made in the last 8 years? c’mon these people are not hurting in any way shape or form. The $$ some questioned individuals have given her hubby Bill to speak? a president that was IMPEACHED FOR LYING UNDER OATH – nothing else. I would not pay $50 bucks to have him speak at the local town hall meeting. WHAT ARE PEOPLE THINKING??? Billy Clinton is the one that signed our american jobs over to China….gee isn’t that interesting. What was in it for them? and….her little tax break deal was the real joke of the day. Talk about a quick fix to try to jolt everyone into thinking she really, really cares…my goodness what a bunch of old politics. If she is so great, experienced, etc why didn’t the health care issue go into play while she was first lady??? hm?? hm?? C’MON AMERICA OBAMA 08!
Posted by: Madison | May 12, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
what is this country coming to? I’d rather live in another country the way things are/ have been going.
Posted by: not liking this | May 12, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
DWIGHT, thank you for illustrating what we completely dislike about Obama supporters, the bullies backing the bully.
Posted by: irma | May 12, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
In the future, perhaps we need to take a test before we are given a voting card. Single digit, and double digit I.Q.s would make one ineligible. Cards would be issued only to those with triple digit I.Q.s.
I see an awful lot of single and double digit comments on here.
Obama ’08
Posted by a Caucasian female
with a four-year college degree.
Posted by: Claudean | May 12, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I think Hillary needs to go ahead and bow out of this race so that the nominees on both sides can start preparing for the general election. To me Hillary has shown the same tactics as George Bush in her bulldog ways and that is scary. Look she knows she is not ahead in the delegate count yet she continues to borrow more of her own money to stay in the fight. Just imagine how she will handle our money as President, just like George Bush continuing to borrow money to stay in the war in Iraq has put America into a historically high deficit. She is dipping into hers now, but soon it will be yours and then we will see how much you love her. Also, it is so funny how so many of you are okay with her lying to the American people and you guys brushed this off like it meant nothing! Goodness, aren’t you tired of folks lying to your face and then trying to explain it later once the truth has been uncovered. She has shown to not be a good manager of her own campaign, yet you are ready to trust her with our country?????? I had enough of that crap with Bush and look were his lies, bad judgment & mis-management of the peoples tax dollars have led us. I just see to much of George Bush in her and McCain just don’t have a clue. It’s time to say no to these old timers and get someone young with intelligence, fresh ideas and goals for our country a chance.
Posted by: Truth | May 12, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who admits to admiring Hillary or Bill Clinton is giving evidence of thier complete and total inability to recognize totally untrustworthy individuals and as far as I’m concerned has lost any and all reasons for anyone to ever respect their opinion. Bill and Hillary Clinton are two of the most deceitful, conniviing, and self-centered people to have ever walked the face of this earth. May the day soon come when we will NEVER have to hear their names mentioned for any office or position of leadership in this country or in this world. May God help the people who are so blinded by this evil couple to have “eyes that see and ears that hear”.
Posted by: wtstan | May 12, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Welcome to America and freedom of speech.
My God in some countries you people would be arrested for stating such things.
1. I don’t believe I have ever met an “honest” politician, you know any?
2. It take a lot of strength and personal character to survive adultery.. let alone have it publicized all across the nation! It takes staying power to work through such a betrayal and yet the marriage survives. Who are you people to JUDGE Hillary and CONDEMN her for having the guts and ability to keep their family together.
3. Attending a church does NOT make you the representative or the total mind-set of an entire congregation. I don’t believe that Obama has ‘EVIL’ intentions for this country based on this one issue. He is my 2nd choice for President.
3. TRUTH, who here REALLY knows the TRUTH about either candidate? All we can hope for is that the RIGHT person becomes President and begins to undo the damage WE ALL AMERICANS have sustained in the past 7 + years with BUSH.
4. Stop the petty bickering and consider praying for ALL candidates because this job will not be SMALL nor will it be EASY.
I really don’t give a rats *** if the President is Black, White, Yellow, Purple or Green. I don’t really care if the President is Male, Female or anything in between. I don’t give a **** what RELIGION they are or if they even have one at all.
I want someone who is WILLING, ABLE and CAN fight the Big, Rich and Powerful People that are working very hard to destroy the rest of us…..
WE HERE NEED TO UNITE…NOT RIP EACH OTHER APART.
Posted by: SlySonya | May 12, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
There is NO WAY Barack can win in November. NEVER will he be President. We already have an arrogant, immature jerk in the White House, the last thing we need is another one. He has NO EXPERIENCE!!!
All the race card playing in the world by his supporters won’t get him elected,and neither will calling us all racists because we can not support him due to his INEXPERIENCE. That is before we even get to his associates and friends, which include CRIMINALS and RACISTS and HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS!
Barack is BUSH only a different color and taller.
NOBAMA EVER
go back to Chicago and take your mean wife with you.
I’m a lifetime Democrat but I WILL vote for McCain if Barack is forced on us as the nominee. He can not WIN in November, he can’t stack up to McCain like HILLARY CAN. HILLARY is beating the pants off McCain nationally. Barack is LOSING and is another DUKASIS/McGovern/Stevenson
Posted by: PaseoDelMar | May 12, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
I passionately believe Hillary is the best canditate and will fight for us. Obama is not a leader but a whimp. I for one will not vote for him in the fall with a clear concious.
Posted by: mbgoldfarb | May 12, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
hey dave
so married people that stay married in spite of an affair are to be condemned? What planet do YOU live on? Oh, thet’s right you live on Obama’s planet.
Well here on earth we HONOR those who HONOR their vows IN SPITE of affairs or any other thing that would TEAR THEM ASUNDER. Because we on EARTH believe in the sanctity of our VOWS of MARRIAGE and HONOR THEM. I am damn proud of them for staying together and working it out, and I am POSITIVE their daughter is too.
You? I doubt sincerely you have ever been married,OR had a family.
Clearly you do not believe in honoring marital vows.
Posted by: PaseoDelMar | May 12, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Shake the Republicans and the Democrats to their very cores. Elect Bob Barr Libertarian candidate for President of the United States.
Posted by: WinWang | May 12, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
If the Democratratic Party were a truly respectable Party they would’ve rid themselves of the Clinton’s years ago. Bill Clinton is a rapist and Hillary is his enabler.
Thank the Lord at least half the Democratic base has finally realized what horrible people these two are and have ALWAYS been!!!
The rest of you Democrats need to take a hard look at yourselves. How in the world can you possibly support these two low lives? It surely doesn’t speak well for you!!!
Posted by: wtstan | May 12, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Why doesn’t she donate all of this money she is spending on a lost cause to a good cause?
Posted by: lincrnp | May 12, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Right and all 3mil will go for him, well except in WV, KY, PR and Nebraska. I guess he’ll have Oregon? Is that where your genius math is counting the 3 mil?
Posted by: irma | May 12, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
irma,
Good for you. According to your argument, all victims of “sexual exploitation” is at fault. I am a leader, mentor and coach. When we encourage our children to do an internship at the White House, it is to be “Mentored & Coached” by the best in this land, the President of the USA, the leader of the free world. Dr. Lewinsky must have been the worst father. To each his/her own, no wonder you are a Hillary fan, you like her have the capacity to tolerate “sexual exploitation” of subordinates – may be it is “A RIGHTWING CONSPIRACY” OR “IT IS NO BODIES BUSINESS.” Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer..
Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 12, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
I have listened to all the talk about who should be the democratic nominee. I understand that the United States has freedom of speech, religion, etc. But I personally find it hard to believe that someone could attend a church for 20 years and never hear the hatred for the Americans whether white or black. They are saying the government did these things. Sorry guys but both races are in the government, not just whites.
Obama said just a little over 3 months ago that he could no more denounce his pastor than he could his white grandmother. Well now 3 months later he has done exactly that, after hearing the same speeches. Why? Because it was hurting his chances for the democratic nominee, not because of what he believed was right or wrong. He is of both races yet he shows contempt for the whites. In his book Audacity of Hope, he states that he denounces his mothers heritage (whites). Now if this is not racist, I would like to know what it is.
He also praises his new pastor, Otis Moss, who agrees fully with Wright and he also compares Wright to Jesus. He says things like “We all have a little bit of thug in us”. Excuse me, I don’t. He also has bad things to say about every prophet in the bible. Listen for yourselves here http://election.newsmax.com/moss_pastor.html
Also, Obama does not want Florida or Michigan counted becuause he didn’t win those states. She did. They both did what they agreed to do and that was to not campaign in that state. Never were they told the votes would not count. I don’t believe anyone told Obama to take his name off the ballot in Michigan, that was his decision. But if the votes were counted Hillary would right there on the top.
As for everyone that thinks Hillary should have divorced Bill because of his acts with Monica, doesn’t understand the whole situation. They don’t know that this couple went through 2 years of marriage counseling to get their marriage back on track. Again that is Hillary not throwing in the towel. It takes a lot to forgive someone who has hurt them that badly, especially in front of the whole world. I am sure there are a lot of married couples that have had problems just like this. Everyone is human. But how many of them took the easy road and just left instead of standing behind their vows. I for one would rather have Hillary as president than Obama anyday of the week.
I think the one thing that everyone should think about is what these two individuals stand for.
Obama denounces his white heritage and praises his black heritage. His wife is finally proud to be an American. Why not before now? Neither grew up in poverty. Why denounce their minister after 20 years of hearing the same thing over and over. Because it was costing him votes. Will the bridge be fixed if he becomes president? Stop and think.
Hillary stood by her vows when most women would have run from embarrassment. She has been defending herself, in the public eye, for as many years as I can remember. Yet she never gives up. She shows compassion for people which is something I haven’t seen from Obama.
Yes, I will vote for Hillary. And if she does not win I will vote for McCain. Not because Obama is black, as he is also half white, but because of his beliefs. He will make a change alright. But the changes he makes will be a nightmare to the United States.
I will not just write in Hillary’s name on the ballot as that count goes to the Democratic nominee, or the trashcan. But for the first time I would have to change my party and vote Republican.
Anybody can, if they would take the time, go and check both candiates voting record. This would give some insight as to how the presidency would be run.
Don’t count Hillary out yet folks. A lot of people that have been fooled by Obama media are realizing it now and wishing they had voted different.
Posted by: Bev | May 12, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Will Hillary Clinton Denounce
West Virginia Senator Robert C Byrd,
Former Klux Klan member,for his
racist past prior to the West Virginia
Primary?
Posted by: reaganfan | May 12, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
what’s ‘over’?? obama doesn’t hsve the delegates and not one single superdelegate has voted yet? what is ‘over’ people?
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
millions of people voted for hillary – we will stand with her and by her.
why is sooo difficult to understand that WE will NOT let Hillary quit even if she wanted to?
the ONLY way to settle this is at the Convention.
LET PEOPLE VOTE. LET DEMOCRACY RUN ITS COURSE.
STOP THE MEDIA FRAUD!
Posted by: Average Joe | May 13, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
I don’t believe I have ever heard Hillary say she thinks of West Virginia Senator Robert C Byrd as a father figure. Or that he has welcomed her into his family and treated her as such. I can’t say the same about Obama and Rev Wright. I still could not, nor would not vote for a man that would listen to a pastor for 20 years that teaches this kind of hatred. Or to the new pastor that is going to keep it going. What is that teaching his children. To keep the hatred going. I thought we were making good headway on getting that behind us. My mistake.
Posted by: Bev | May 13, 2008, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Frankly, I Liked the Bill Clinton years! Everyone had jobs, economy was on the right track,crime rate was down. Everyone could afford a few nice things & even order a Pizza out. Gee, I remember gas in every tank too! No stupid wars, we sure could use them days again. That’s why GWBush looks So Awful ! HE did a Major Mess of the Good Times! Hillary no doubt could clean up this mess & bring back those Good Times, probably even make them Better. I still haven’t heard anything Obama has ever did for good in his church, community or state, have you ? Anyone…? Please, Anyone.. ? Nope. Let’s get America back on track !
Posted by: Georgie | May 13, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
I was infuriated with the pundits saying yesterday that this DEM primary was about generations and racism. They forgot the most trampled group and that is women. Prejudices against women are so long-rooted that many people can’t even identify misogynistic comments — women included because they are so used to being treated as second class citizens. My son, God Bless him came home and said, you know mom, even at my college, the guys get the best dorms. “Now why is that?”, he says. A Catholic college at that. He comes home each week and identifies a new way women are held down. So, there may be hope, some young people do get it and many are men and don’t want to continue to treat their wives and women the way Chris Matthew and other misogynists do. Look at the way they have treated Hillary Clinton. Wake up America. This Rezko deal involved Obama and his friends. Just watch and see.
Posted by: Bevv | May 13, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
I am with the women. If Hillary is not the DEM nom, then we will work like Hell to elect McCain. Ted Kennedy can go to __ ___ ___ __–well–you know where he’s going. Then she can run the next year. Or, even better yet, if McCain (who likes her a lot–they are good friends) can pick her as VP and woop the ____ ___ ___ ___ out of Obama.
And, if you guys all want somebody whose really difficult, just see Michele Obama as first lady. Saw today she and Teddy have both said no Hillary on VP even. Well then, I say no Michele in the White House.
Posted by: Bevv | May 13, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
West Virgina will be the tortise and the hare race. The hare is overly confident. Thinks he has it all sewn up and can sit out West Virginia because all the folks there are stupid. Well, the lady in the pants suit has not yet said so and the voters (Rep and Dem’s) don’t want her to get out of the race.
No Clinton, then McCain. It’s just that plain.
Posted by: bevv | May 13, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
White dove– the political machine is underworld based. In Chicago where Obama is from it is. Where Ted Kennedy came from it is. Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger. The Kennedy family has been a dominate force in the DEM longer than the Clintons. So, it a joke for your to talk about the Clinton Machine. What about the Kennedy-Obama-Farrakan machine. The Kennedy-Obama-Ayers-Rezko-Wright-Blogovich-Farrakan-B. Assad machine. Obama was made by Emil Jones (senator of IL- godfather). He is a puppet. If not, then how come Teddy Kennedy is deciding who his VP should be. Teddy’s running the show now.
Posted by: Bevv | May 13, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
However the goalposts are moved HRC is STILL LOSING.
She can pick up the vast majority of delegates in the remaining races and she would STILL BE LOSING.
Staying in the race is not “pluckiness” it is hubris and idiocy.
If HRC has such a broad base of support why don’t THEY give her some money … I thought not! …
As for Jackie | May 12, 2008 12:36:16 AM (and others) saying things like
“Senator Obama and Senator Clinton have somwehat (sic) similar policy statements” … “I will never, never, vote for Obama’s socialist/Marxists’ agenda.”
You are just proving that she does have a lot of un-educated support. So they have similar policy statements but BO is a socialist/Marxist?
Oh, and when did it become elitist to want to be more educated?
Posted by: Dennis L | May 13, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Posted by: Bevv | May 13, 2008 4:19:23 AM
The sheer amount of sexism that has arisen from the US during Hillary’s run is nothing short of disgusting!
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I got two quotes for you women-haters out there:
“Let the men obsess over the math. Let the women fight against the odds…yet once again!”
“Hell hath no fury like women scorn!”
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With respect to your first ‘quote’ HRC is JUST as obsessed over the math. Also, if you feel that a black man (I KNOW he is half white) is not ALSO fighting against the odds then you are delusional.
As for your second ‘quote’ (actually it is SCORNED) is that supposed to make men like/support women more? Does not compute!
Posted by: Dennis L | May 13, 2008, 5:20 am 5:20 am
Sorry my post above should have been directed at
Posted by: gaypastor | May 13, 2008 4:29:45 AM
Posted by: Dennis L | May 13, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am
I am glad to see more people go with Hillary despite the ugly biased media and hateful agressive Obama supporters toward her.
If Hillary decides to be independent (I hope she will if Democrat party is too much for her) We will vote for her, not for Obama at all costs.
I am Democrat, and the first time in my life I will not vote the party’s candidate if its nomanee is Obama!
Posted by: Tina, Texas | May 13, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Hillary, like her husband Bill, is a liar and can’t be trusted. Her only goal now that she has no chance of winning the nomination is to throw enough mub at Obama and hope enough sticks so that McCain wins in the fall and she can run again in 2012.
And there’s no sexism in this race. People hate Hillary because she’s Hillary, not because she’s a woman.
Posted by: Riverhippie | May 13, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Sen.Obama has run a POSITIVE campaign in which unfortunately because of agressions of the opposite side he had to defend himself. Millions of people are engaged in politics because of him. Kids from inner city schools are applying the YES, WE CAN philosophy to their own lives and improving their performance as shown in different videos. His campaign has paid decent American workers for their services, the other campaign hasn’t and it is in debt. Internationally, Sen.Obama is the messenger for peace, while the other candidate wants to obliterate the ‘enemy’ increasing even more the bully image that the USA has. HRC voters are blindly voting for gender or for the previous 8 years of B. Clinton, they vote for her but are thinking of him. Scary and sad! They don’t realize the damage they are inflicting to the USA image in the world and to the Democratic Party. Only time will tell.
Posted by: carmen | May 13, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Sen.Obama has run a POSITIVE campaign in which unfortunately because of agressions of the opposite side he had to defend himself. Millions of people are engaged in politics because of him. Kids from inner city schools are applying the YES, WE CAN philosophy to their own lives and improving their performance as shown in different videos. His campaign has paid decent American workers for their services, the other campaign hasn’t and it is in debt. Internationally, Sen.Obama is the messenger for peace, while the other candidate wants to obliterate the ‘enemy’ increasing even more the bully image that the USA has. HRC voters are blindly voting for gender or for the previous 8 years of B. Clinton, they vote for her but are thinking of him. Scary and sad! They don’t realize the damage they are inflicting to the USA image in the world and to the Democratic Party. Only time will tell.
Posted by: carmen | May 13, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm