Clinton Meets With Party Elite to Count Florida & Michigan Vote

How much more lying smears against Obama from Clinton do we have to put up with? Let’s get this straight. Florida and Michigan should NOT count – they broke the rules and were disqualified. That’s the way it works and procedure was followed. This call for those votes to count is only because she cannot possibly win without them(9even with them it’s unlikely). If the roles were reversed, she would support their disqualification from the contest. She is the biggest hypocrite you can possibly imagine.

You know..I really try sometimes to give Hillary the benefit of the doubt…
but, c’mon…why does she keep wanting to change the rules everytime her campaign falters??? I sincerely doubt she would care much about poor, “disenfranchised” voters if they would count in Obama’s favor. I bet if Barack tried these arguments the Clinton campaign would loudly proclaim ‘FOUL!” with ample righteous indignation about Obama trying to change the well-established and agreed upon rules. It IS time to gracefully step aside Mrs. Clinton.

If Obama had won the votes in Florida and Michigan…Clinton would not be campaigning for them to be counted. She would be saying “Sorry, those were the rules the party decided on…Obama don’t be a whiner and a rule-breaker. It’s not fair to change the rules in the middle of the game…blah blah blah.”
Obama wasn’t even an option on the Michigan ballots. The candidates vowed to not campaign in those two states..but Clinton decided to do a brief campaign in Florida anyway.
If she wants to count the votes..then they need to have a second primary after BOTH candidates have the opportunity to campaign there.

doublestandard — I think you’ll have to use something a bit more concrete that your *conclusion* that Sen. Obama is a “dangerous liar” who threatens safety and security. Would you care to be more specific? I’m an Obama supporter and lifelong Democrat who decided several months ago that I would not be able to vote for Sen. Clinton if she were the nominee. If asked to explain my reasons for that decision, I could have recited them – chapter, verse and citation to supporting documents and reports. All I’m asking is that you do the same. Thank you.

Hillary Clinton has officially crossed the threshold to become the Democratic version of Huckabee!

Lets not disenfranchise American voters cause their Republican controlled states voted for early elections. If it were YOUR vote would ya CARE? Why doesn’tMr Obama who refuses to let thse two states vote again? The re-votes are being paid for by private donations. I don’t see why every American vote is a CHANGE in the RULES?? its unconstitutional to disenfranchise an American’s vote..Just ask B.O.

Justin,
I am sick of hearing that Obama is the first African American…. Can you stop pointing that out? Hillary, on the ohter hand, is the first woman… but few pepople are mentioning that.. It’s all about Barry, the African American.. Posts like yours reveal the truth: this election has been all about race!

One more point…even if FL and MI were counted completly as they are right now, Clinton would still be behind…its over.

Michael Mouse: Right, because John “bomb, bomb Iran” Mccain stands a big chance of winning….LOL!!!

OBAMA NATION!!! I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!
We worked hard to get where we are. Let’s do it again in November!
Signed,
A Fellow Obamanite!

rrbb2003: LOL!!! I’ll be surprised if Mccain takes 20 states.

I doubt states like Oregon, Washington, California, Wisonsin, Connecticut, etc. are “black states.”

True Truth and here I thought we only had red and blue states.

Mary: Clinton, Kucinich and Dodd were the only ones who had their names on the ballot…everyone else followed the rules of the DNC….Kucinich and Dodd put their names on the ballot because they were desperate for even one vote…Clinton put her name on the ballot as a back-up plan in case something like this happened because she is a ruthless candidate. In an interview with NPR during New Hampshire she told the interviewer that she new the vote in MI was a joke. And yes, the audio of that interview is still around…sorry!

I want to respond to True Truth
Please do not bring up the stereotype that Republicans are small government, tax cutters and that the Democrats are tax and spend liberals. The truth is that the last three Republican Presidents have borrowed their way to tax cuts. This means that future generations will end up paying the bill (with interest). Likewise the statement that Republicans are for small government. Not so. Bush ((jr) has presided over the biggest expansion of government in decades.
The truth is that both Democrats AND Republicans love to spend our money. The only real difference is where the money is allocated. I look to Obama to reverse this by assigning spending in line with OUR priorities.

Katrina: MT and SD will go for Obama…even if MI and FL went for Clinton she would still be far behind because of yesterday’s results…its over.

Do your jobs and count the votes already. Geez.

Mary: Did you forget the part where I said that in an interview with NPR CLinton said that she knew that the vote in MI was a joke…like all Clinton supporters you hear what you want to hear…the truth must hurt.

Cute, huh?
Think they’ll show up in November to vote? It may not be “in” then or fashionable. It’s hard to maintain the interest of the young for that long. Seasons change.
Hey, it’ll be football and beer season—well, that’s ongoing.
I’m sure there’s some “serious” support there, but don’t count on a huge vote, it has a tradition of just vaporizing.

A: You don’t seem believable due to twisted comments.
B: Response: Obama thought less than Hillary. Reread it.
C: The joke is on you, think it through…you’re the one who said she was ruthless and that it was a backup plan. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
D: The truth is what it is. Light. Knowledge. Power. Don’t try to craft a halo for Obama, he’s just an ambitious politician and a junior one at that. He is a puppet, just as “W” was. He doesn’t know the job or what to say…not yet ready for prime time.

Clinton supporters of which I am one; do not be misguided by the Republicans pretending to be on our side and encouraging us to vote for McCain. I, a life long Democrat, will be changing my party affiliation to Independent. The reason being I do not feel that the Democratic Party is representative of US, the long term Democrats who believe and fought for Civil Rights, who experienced the rip off elections of Gore and Kerry and who now support Hillary Clinton. I have volunteered throughout the years driving to other states and staying in Hotels to help where ever I was needed at my own expense. I also have donated heavily throughout the years. What I have seen done to Hillary Clinton in the media is a great injustice. I have only a masters in History; however my passion for the subject has been deep since childhood. I have experienced racism, poverty and hunger. I have also experienced great devotion from teachers and others enabling me to become educated beyond my family’s hopes and dreams. I know that this country and its Constitution is not great solely because of leaders or events, but because of the People and the Power of Protest. It is what I teach my students every year! I am not abandoning the Democratic Party; I am leaving a party that has contributed to the great injustice we are witnessing against Hillary Clinton, the most intelligent, policy savvy candidate. It is the Democratic Party that has abandoned US for a novice because of the “forces that be” who want to anoint him within our party against the wishes of the loyal Dem base. I owe this party nothing! I owe the New Democrats for Obama absolutely NOTHING! I definitely owe Obama absolutely NOTHING! I will vote for Hillary Clinton alone, hopefully through a new THIRD PARTY. I encourage a split with the Democratic Party because it will be a ROARING PROTEST THAT THEY WILL FEEL. I will NEVER vote Republican!

LOL You need to post the numbers of the ones who avoided and said no thanks to a meeting with her. More than went.

Jesse…Clinton is fighting for all of us not not just for herself. She knows Obama will make a mess of this country. I pray she will continue to fight and I hope if she doesn’t get the nomination she runs under the independent ticket and stomps Obama.

I’m a Democrat in Michigan. I got to watch as Hillary-supporter “superdelegates” moved our primary up to try to put a lock on her nomination early. I’m still watching as those same “superdelegates” are manipulating the county and state conventions to try to fill half of the “uncommitted” delegates elected with Hillary supporters – even though “uncommitted” was a vote for “anybody but Hillary.”
Write-ins for Obama here were disqualified. Lots of Democrats crossed over and voted Republican because we knew our one-candidate primary was a sham.
The Michigan delegation should be split 50:50 or they should watch the convention on TV. No state democrat who is honest would feel disenfranchised by either outcome. But you’d better believe we’d feel disenfranchised if the “superdelegates” manipulate the results in Hillary’s favor.

Oketolo…I feel like you about the way they have treated Hillary. It is really sickening to see what the media has done in this election as well. I will not forget and I will be independent from now on myself. I just cannot and will not vote for Obama and so I will vote McCain if Hillary is not the nominee, or if she doesn’t run as an independent. Otherwise I think a no vote would help Obama. That is the last thing I want to do.

Clinton supporters of which I am one; do not be misguided by the Republicans pretending to be on our side and encouraging us to vote for McCain. I, a life long Democrat, will be changing my party affiliation to Independent. The reason being I do not feel that the Democratic Party is representative of US, the long term Democrats who believe and fought for Civil Rights, who experienced the rip off elections of Gore and Kerry and who now support Hillary Clinton. I have volunteered throughout the years driving to other states and staying in Hotels to help where ever I was needed at my own expense. I also have donated heavily throughout the years. What I have seen done to Hillary Clinton in the media is a great injustice. I have only a masters in History; however my passion for the subject has been deep since childhood. I have experienced racism, poverty and hunger. I have also experienced great devotion from teachers and others enabling me to become educated beyond my family’s hopes and dreams. I know that this country and its Constitution is not great solely because of leaders or events, but because of the People and the Power of Protest. It is what I teach my students every year! I am not abandoning the Democratic Party; I am leaving a party that has contributed to the great injustice we are witnessing against Hillary Clinton, the most intelligent, policy savvy candidate. It is the Democratic Party that has abandoned US for a novice because of the “forces that be” who want to anoint him within our party against the wishes of the loyal Dem base. I owe this party nothing! I owe the New Democrats for Obama absolutely NOTHING! I definitely owe Obama absolutely NOTHING! I will vote for Hillary Clinton alone, hopefully through a new THIRD PARTY. I encourage a split with the Democratic Party because it will be a ROARING PROTEST THAT THEY WILL FEEL. I will NEVER vote Republican!

Oketola —right on!!! you could not have said it any better.
I now consider myself an ex-democrat…
I will vote for Hillary whenever I can …and if I must I will write in her name this November. Not only is the DNC to blame for this injustice but the MSM that anointed the chosen one.

Jesse…I am not that interested in party. I vote for the best candidate. In my opinion Hillary is that candidate. If she is out, I vote McCain.

Idiocy reings! So, the powers that be don’t want Hillary. But, it is un-american to prevent Hillary from competing under the process created by the Dem. party! Why have rules for a nomination if the process is not real?? Then, why all the effort and the money? What if it was your dream or your child’s dream to ran for President? What if the media and powers in D.C. were against Obama? How would you react if Hillary’s electability arguments were used to demand Obama step out of a hopeless effort to be president?? HIllary should stay. Our greatest heroes and founders of this country were like Hillary, stubborn, single minded in their vision! Hillary is made of the leadership qualities of the men that founded American. I for one don’t allow myself to be led by what the Media and powerful politicians say I should believe and so I give Hillary the benefit of hte doubt!! She truly probably believes deeply in her heart that Obama may not be electable, that she has the winning coalition and that she must fight to save her domocratic party. After all, the Clintons are THE ONLY DEMOCRATS that have successfully won the white house in 30 years!!! That is a very powerful argument on her side!!! History is with her!!! She has sacrificed for her party. Why would she invest millions of her money adn put up with the humuliation of having big media types mostly men who have not done a single thing to help Americans lead better lives and some chorus of foolish women who beat her down on personal issues with name calling and all. What if Hillary is right? Obama won 11 states all or nearly all were caucus states!!! These are not states where a large majority of people vote like primaries. The loyal activists vote in those. So, Obama carries African Americans, educated liberal democrats, limousine liberals and afew of the others. Is taht really a winning coalition? I hope Hillary stays in and fights to the end despite it all. She may be the hero at the end of the day. At least show respect for this Belle and tough leader. She is a great American and an inspiration for millions of women facing sexism and powers beyond our ability to overcome.
Her fight will make it easier for another woman down the road to ran for President.

Irma – so you’d write in Hillary for president even if she was a candidate for vice president? Sorry if I missed a post, but I didn’t see where you answered.
As for me, I imagine I’ll be voting for Obama in the fall. But as a true independent, I’ll hear both out and then decide. McCain has a shot at my vote. But I have been impressed with Obama since early last year.

Why not- two hundred years of white rich people have gotten us what? WAR, higher poverty, homeless, and the rich getting richer while the rest of us have gotten what?
Quoting Matthew Yglesias -
” In the twentieth century, I count Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan as all having served fewer than 12 years in public office before assuming the Presidency and I count exactly twelve for Warren Harding.If Obama is elected to the White House, he will have served eight years in the Illinois State Senate and four years in the United States Senate”
So numnuts do the math – and take a look at what these former Presidents have done for our country – or not – and keep on believing that a lying rich white woman would be the better to try and change such a corrupt system as we have today. As for the newly appointed Gov of Massachusetts – why is he unpopular? Could it be that he is trying to change the good ole boys ways of doing things and they do not like it? Humans resit change – be it in any form. So before you pander yourselves to settle for more of the same – why don’t you listen to what the man says. And if your holding him responsible for Rev. Wrights comments, I suggest you go to college (as I assume you are some of the uneducated middle class people)and find out the truth about how the country was fonded on lies and cheating and murdering of innocent people because they weren’t like us. I am truly sorry of our history – not the one you get taught in elementary school but the truth!

Maybe n’obama. Newt Gingrich seems to see it the same way I do. He’s warned his Republican allies not to repeat this attack campaign, because he sees it as a losing effort.
He further advises the GOP to concentrate its efforts on finding a message beyond continuing Bush policies.

It’s ironic how in 2000 the Democratic party made a huge production and threw a hissyfit over some “disenfranchised” voters in Florida, yet now in 2008 they gladly disenfranchise the ENTIRE state of Florida when it suits the needs of their politically anointed candidate.
BO likes to proclaim in his pep talks that, being a lawyer, he understands the Constitution. Too bad he doesn’t understand the concept of counting all the votes. His lack of judgement is frightening and dangerous for this country.

If Hillary does not get the nomination, I, and many others, will not vote for the non-patriotic Obama. Would you be proud to have him and his wife, greeting our friends from abroad at the White House? Can you even imagine the type of cabinet he would have and the people he would try to appoint to the Supreme Court, and try to imagine who he would try to put in as ambassadors to our overseas Embassies!!!

I went to the movies a couple of weeks ago. A young man butted in front of my daughter and I and I said to him, “Excuse me, young man, but you need to wait your turn. Go to the back of the line.” He defiantely turned and walked to the back of the line. Then, at Walmart the other day, a woman cut in front of me when I went over to grab a pack of gum and came back. I didn’t say anything to her but the woman knew what she’d done and she knew I was ticked off. Then, on my way home from work the other night, the car behind me zoomed around me as if he was really going to make progress by doing so. I guess I’m trying to explain, in simple terms, how I feel about Barack Obama. He’s the kid at the movie theater who tried to bully his way to the front of the line. Or he’s the guy who thinks he’s going to get ahead by aggressively muscling his way through rush hour traffic. He’s every person I’ve ever met in life who didn’t want to wait his/her turn. I guess that’s what bugs me most. I really was impressed with the guy. Thought he was going to go places some day. But that “some day” was after he worked hard for years in the Senate, gained experience, paid a few dues. But, lo and behold, he ended up being what I call “a cutter-in-line” kind of guy. Well, this girl is going to cut-and-run to the Republican Party come November. I may not like every last thing about John McCain but I do respect the fact he’s paid his dues, waited for his turn and picked himself up and dusted himself off when he’s been knocked down.

I will not vote for a third party only because I know they do no not have a chance to win so, it would just be a thrown away vote. Therefore, I will vote McCain if my choice is him or BHO. I had rather vote for McCain (which is equal to me as a vote against BHO) then just throw away the vote.
I don’t care about all the whiners that say, what are you going to tell your kids when McCain does this or that. That is just a scare tactic. I am sure it can not possibly be any worse that what BHO would do to our country. I had rather go to war with a REAL American then support the very unAmerica BHO.
BHO will ruin our country DON”T vote for him.

Polling show that nearly 50% of Clinton supporters will vote for McCain or not vote at all if Obama gets the nomination.
I think most of these people are serious. Opinions?

And you Obama people think we are going to vote for your candidate? With your attitude alone you lose him votes.
Corrections to the article: Obama removed his own name from the Michigan ballot so he could gain favor with Iowa and New Hampshire. Obamas’ name was on the Florida ballot and he was the only one to campaign there and should be penalized because those ARE THE RULES.

The reason I will not vote for him is not because he’s black, though your argument is used so much its lost it meaning.
I will not vote for him because he is a man of poor character, with very radical friends and he has actually sent lawyers to Michigan and Florida to prevent their revotes to comply with DNC rules. He screwed his own voters.
He will not be able to even ask for those states votes in November after saying they are not good enough all year. Nothing he can do will make him electable running against a Republican when the states he won vote Republican like they always do.
People actually want their votes back that voted for him earlier in the year.

Harold Ickes assisted in the strip of the delegates in MI and FL

Obama blocked the compiance revotes so all other arguments are moot on this. Obama screwed his own voters over.

For those that think will somehow win are terribly disillusioned.
lol sorry guys but she’s not a winner. Over half the country, those not suffering from selective amnesia, does not want the clintons back in the white house.

Character, character, character.
Surround yourself with the people you admire and want to be like.

lol porkfrog, we’re all typical, white and black people

Well just don’t expect any of us to be voting democratic in November and you talk to Ickes.

Sure porkfrog, fairness be damned.

McCain will only win if the Hillary supporters don’t come to their senses and vote for Obama. Even some republicans will vote for a dem because they don’t want McCain.
La in Indiana, you can be sure that the draft will be back with McCain and maybe even Hillary since she is talking about war with Iran now.

I have my full senses. The Republican party has more of my values now.

lisa, they could reinstate the draft….so how many republicans will be running for the borders?

Heck, if the questions are too tough he might not talk for 10 days.

Maybe he can just flip off McCain at the next debate.

We have an issue with it. I have an issue with Obamas’ lobby preventing our revote. I have a problem with him ridiculing Florida voting situation on National TV to the delight of his victory crowd. That got him some laughs.

God…blame everything on Clinton. Pass the buck. Every situation this man gets into some how you all blame Clinton.
TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY. At this age it should be developed somewhat.

We were just told we had to revote during the time that the DNC allows. Are you making things up?

And what about the 3 other states that move their primarys ahead of the schedule the DNC set? The DNC cherry picks the rules and applies them selectively to the states it wants to.

The DNC agreed to the first 4 states, in order to allow for all demographics to become a part of the early process.
The DNC did not agree to FL and MI becoming a part of the early process. They decided that on their own. So the ones who made the decision are the ones who should be stripped, especially if they are superdelegates. They are the ones who disenfranchised the voters, not the candidates.

The states moved their dates and then the DNC said okie dokie.
Florida is a very diverse state too. Much more diverse than New Hampshire or Iowa or Nevada or S. Carolina.
To be fair they broke the rules and then a reason was made up for it to be alright for them but this BS for 2 states.

The DNC rules state we can vote after Feb. 5the. It’s Bull for poor Obama. His only problem is that he would lose, plain & simple. So, he blocked the revote. He didn’t want 1.7 million people to vote in a legit election, but he wants a vote in November. Your point makes no sense.

“the revote puts the states back in play after breaking the rules at the outset.”
Wait until the states vote in the general election and you will see what back in play really means– A lose for the democratic party.
Obama goes down in flames because the candadate for the people forgot about 7 million voters and they bit him in the butt. Headlines will read
“Florida & Michigan Voters DUMP democratic Candadate”

I don’t care about the politicians and their rules as long as the apply them selectively. We have more hispanics than South Carolina and the black population is thriving as is the Cuban and Haitian peoples that live here in great numbers. Their argument has got to have common sense to it. It does not.
The DNC reeks of favoritism and playing personalities over principals.
Obama missed his chance here on the revote as he did in Michigan.

No, The DNC is a private organization and has no business interferring with federal and state mandated election dates.
The DNC needs to be concerned with setting dates for the National Conference and stay out of government election business.
It is not their place to “keep states from jumping the process” as you say it. The DNC does not fund the elections the states do, until they do so, they have no voice in setting the dates.

The state date selection process has worked now for how many years?
A few people decided they didn’t like their state standing in the process….so they decide to hold their states primary whenever they see fit? If the DNC has no business, as you say, in the process then why are we having this fight?

The states own the process not the DNC, it has never owned the process and only has become involved since 2000. They need to get back out and let the states set their election dates as they see fit. Common sense will prevail as the voters within the states make their wishes known. As it is now, it can only look like favoritism and meddling and will be resented if handled with a heavy hand (I.E Howard Dean 2008).

I’ m shocked by the numbers of Hillary fanatics that still think she could still be the president in 08. How? It is obvious that she thinks it is over. she is staying in it to pay off her debts, to save face, and carry a faint hope that somehow, someway, that Obama will put his foot in his mouth, and that she can grossly twist it into an issue that will change the election over night. He is very transparent. all of his books have outlined all of his faults (he is imperfect after all). there is nothing left to do him in. It is McCain who is going to get the full court press in a month or two. Obama’s story is an inspiring one. There honestly no big flaws there. the comments about how we don’t really know him are bogus. No candidate has revealed so much of himself in such a heat felt manner in his autobiographies and biography by a Chicago Tribune imbedded reporter. His motives are unreproachable. Call him a smoker, arrogant at times, naive at others, but he is genuine and a different kind of politician. Sure he’s liberal, but so is Hillary. He wants what he and Hillary both want for the country. Their policies are remarkably similar, and stand in stark contrast to Bush/McCain/Rush. His honesty and family values are strong. Elitist he is not. A black activist is he is not. I repeat, he is NOT a black activist. he wants to help everyone in need, regardless of color. Just ask his biographer who has watched his every move over the years. Barack is not an attack candidate, but he is a great orator and he has the potential to bring people together for the good of the country. don’t believe the political attacks from the far right and Hillary. she had to say these things to catch up, but she didn’t really mean it. He is fresh. give him a chance. The McSame alternative is disastrous.

FL,MI must be counted with majority going for Hillary! Obama must adopt the total universal heathcare for all rather than leaving 15 million americans out,Obamabots will be respectful of Hillary clinton and her supporters,Hillary Clinton should be offered the VP slot uncondtionally then we might think about supporting Obama but not till then!

It is presumptuous to disenfranchise
the millions of voters as a “tactical
matter”, then expect to get their votes
in November. Many of these votes belong
to member of our military, their voice
should have an impact on who our nominee
will be. Not merely symbolic representa-
tion with a seated delegation.
When I hear members of the MSM, saying
how there would be “blood in the streets”, or Al Sharpton, I just shake
my head. This is about what is best for
our country! Every vote must count!
It is our military whose blood has been
splilled. Are they not the ones who are
the focal point of ending the war in
Iraq? Yet, threats of intimidation are
issued against those who would support
Sen. Clinton. Have we be come a some
kind of a banana republic??? There’s
no need for “backroom deals” with the SD’s when Sen.Obama, since 2005 has dis-pensed more than $700k, Sen.Clinton has
given $225K big difference. There are
other “shoes” to drop. Sen Clinton is
still in the race it is not up to the
MSM to pronounce to WINNER. She is the
BEST candidate for these critical times
that we are in. We need a strong POTUS.
United We Will Win!

I don’t understand why people are asking Hillary to quit? she will shamefully quit at the right time, then herself and bill would have lost there respect nationwide.

One vote one person? It is the Clinton side that wants to devalue the vote of the 30 plus states that have voted for Obama. She wants Obama to get no votes from Michigan, this is the only way she get more votes. Obama was not even on the ballot! Hillary agreed that Florida and Michigan would not count.
The Clintons want to make the rules as they go around. What is the definition of “is’? Hillary represents the past, Obama the future

The Governor of Michigan changed the date for the voting, this is within the power of the goverment of that state and is not controlled by the Democratic Party. The legislature of Florida changed their date, this is within the power of the goverment of Florida.
Both republican and democratic party wanted to punish the states for this infraction but the GOP only took away 50% of the delegates, the DNC decided that no vote in those two states would count.
What I am curious about if a party invalidates all those votes, how can they say they have a party in that state.
Under that condition how can they add their general candidate to the ballot in a state where all those voters were disenfranchised and the candidate chosen by popular vote was not represented.
Barack Hussein Obama had some friends in the Michigan legislature who were on television (they admitted to blocking the re-vote and also said it was nice to be ahead, meaning that Obama was ahead in votes since the votes in Michigan will not be counted).
Obama has lied 4 times about how much money he has gotten from the criminal Tony Rezko it started at several thousand now its up to over $250,000. He said he hardly knew Rezko but Rezko helped him buy his South Chicago mansion. When Obama was in the Illinois senate 11 of the delapidated low welfare housing units were in Obamas district. Those are still delapidated lotta help the low income got from those.
Obama says he in 23 years never heard Jeremiah Wright speak with vile racist venom apparently he did then what he is doing now not listening.
If Barack Hussein Obama is such a huge success why is it that he is only taking the black vote and about 15% of the ultra liberal white vote.
All those who say Michigan and Florida do not count, in 1992 Florida voted dem, in 1996 it voted dem, in 2000 it was rep in 2004 it was rep. Last presidential election Michigan was dem by 163k votes, yep lets disenfranchise Michigan and Florida its only 43 electorial votes.
It only takes 271 to be president so that leave McCain only needing 228 or so.
Obama lost Florida by a huge margin and he of his own free will decided he didnt want to leave his name on the ballot in Michigan, so he is the only one to blame for not having any votes there.