Clinton Says She Is ‘No Shrinking Violet’ Amid Cheers for Obama

Again. Obama would never give a speech in front of a bunch of Clinton supporters. This is the third speech she has given in front of Obama supporters.
Arent Obama supporters swell? Their way or the highway. But then again, moveon.org and huffington post are going to HANG themselves over Clinton going on Oreilly.
After all these months of utter hatred from the far left wing, how dare Clinton give them the finger (finally).
Chris matthews now thinks fox is in a vast conspiracy with Clinton to harass his beloved Obama.
Has anyone asked Obama if he believes in black liberation theology yet?
Oh i forgot. Thats one of the swift boats they are saving for the general election. One of the many.

Sounds like the BO people have put people out there to cheer on BO and jeer Hillary just like in the debates but it doesn’t matter because the people that are not there don’t care which is 98% of the people outside of me that pay attention. I talk to people all the time and they are clueless because they don’t blog or pay attention to the news channels.

Maybe Hillary has burned some bridges?
I wouldn’t have thought thy would booo her like that, but one never knows.

I watched her speech on C-span tonight. She was terrific and what I saw were people cheering her with signs and shouting her name. ABC is so biased its pathetic!!! Shame on you!! Go Hillary go!!
Hillary in 2008!!

Georgia,
Don’t you find it starnge that Clinton doesn’t appeal to the other half of the Democratic Party?
I think it is a matter of half of us not listening to the other half.
Thanks for your input but I voted Obama

rs, don’t you find it more than a little odd that the chanters of HOPE, CHANGE, UNITY, don’t really convey it to the other half of the Party. That should tell us that it is all about theatrics or make believe. Grab your soundbites and go for it. If you say it often enough, it becomes theology and truth. Until everyone discovers the emptiness beneath. Bring out Deval Patrick again, because I liked his delivery better. Words….just words….We hold these words to be self evident….that “you can fool some people some of the time; you can fool all of the people some of the time, but, you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” Sooner or later, “the chickens come home to roost!” Was that what Rev. Wright was preaching? Pray tell us some more about black liberation theology, maybe we could be converted.

Freedom of speech does not mean that a mature adult abandons diplomacy or common courtesy. All the booing, snipes, snarks, and nastiness define the character of the people demonstrating the bad behavior, not the democratic party. Disrespectful behavior is NOT what the democratic party has traditionally been about, at least not since Obama advanced his big change.

Emily
Oh do I her crying…
Negativity loves company. And just so happened Queen Negativity was at the podium…

@ peter:
I’m beginning to believe you may be right. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton devoted years to advancing the rights of African Americans, Hispanics, woman, and so many others. Suddenly now, the Obama camp brands them as racists. Methinks it’s projection.

Oh Emily, please. This is called demonstrating and it has been going on way before Obama. So stop blaming him for the disruptions.

Thinking, I’m glad you got my point. After Obama supporters have called for Hillary to get out of the race continually, called her all kinds of unflattering names, then they can be totally disrespectful and boo her and the Governor at a Democratic Party dinner in Raleigh, what should we think? That the Obama people own the Party? That this is not a campaign where all voices can be heard with respect? Some people need to grow up. I am glad that you voted Obama, because I didn’t, and I won’t in November. Enjoy your moment while you can!

When the polls drop, bring on the race-baiting, name calling, and ad hominine attacks on Hillary, and her supporters.
@ lisa: The “disruptions,” as you call them, have been encouraged by the Obama camp from day one. These disruptions are discourteous, mean-spirited, and downright rude. They are also not representative of the democratic party or anyone with dignity.

Emily – Much like the words “disruption” and distraction” have been used by political candidates…so have the words “hope” and “change”. Meanwhile, we have the Revvy Wright, Tony Ayers, Mr. Auchi, cousin Odinga, and many others. Your candidate is a liar.

Some sure are reaching for bloodlines and affiliations to discredit Obama.
The Clinton past is rather deep, and quite frankly, unresolved. The MSM won’t touch it *yet*. They are saving up for mainstream media ratings, shall we go there now and give them a head start?
Don’t assume your HRC is resilient. you can’t even understand media- and give HRC and her husband more credit then they deserve.
Kinda like buying a Hummer- you might think you look cool, but most of us just think you are a fool.

Erin – When did I discuss race? I was talking about relationships between countries in our world. Your candidate supported his cousin who wants to make Kenya subject to Muslim law.

the woman is fearless! while obama will not even debate her. way to go hillary bet they expected you to go into a fetal position like obama after the abc debate.

Obama has such a boatload of dirty friends……drip…drip if that boat springs a leak…watch out. Look at Rezko on trial right now. Rezko, as a real estate magnate in Chicago, was given a contract for 3 energy plants to be built in Iraq…. through our government. The plants were never built because Rezko got indicted, but NO DOUBT that Senator Obama helped Rezko GET that contract for Rezko. Not to mention that Axelrod was a lobbyist for Exelon (and the later nuclear legislation with no teeth), or that much of the $$$ loans came through General Electric Financial. Who have been large contributors to Obama’s campaigns, General Electric and Exelon! Who owns one of the largest loan insurance and credit card companies in America, General Electric. Who voted for unlimited credit limits and voted against a 30% cap on credit cards? Obama! Obama said he voted against the 30% cap because it was too high. Apparently NO cap is better than a cap that’s too high. Who owns NBC and MSNBC the home of all anti-Hillary all the time? General Electric! Who owns Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Keith Olbermann and Andrea Mitchell? General Electric! Do you think Obama made a speech against the war in Iraq because of his own personal ideology? Which company is doing business in Iran right now? General Electric! No wonder Obama wants to sit down with Ahmedinajad. Why are the Obamanations booing Hillary? They should be booing their liberal fascist leader!

Wow- the mainstream media fed posts are abundant here, kinda scary. Does anyone posting on this site do their *OWN* research?
Guess that’s toomuch to ask of folks in the information age-
ROFL……..

omentum, can you please explain to me and 90 % of the rest of these people on this blog, and if fact across america, why obama should be president? how can you convince me and so many others by one sitting in a pew for 20 years and being brainwashed is suddenly unwelcome, or denounced. what do you think of the wright’s comment….he is doing what politicians do…..what do you think of rattso…..what do you think of ayers….what do you think of the nbpp…….above all else,what do you think of obama subjecting his children to these kind of ‘hate’ sermons for so long…..well???

whenever Hillary or Bill Clinton have rally , Obama campaign always send some hecklers.
That is childish.

omentum….sorry, i clearly disagree….let us pretend for one minute that hillary supports the KKK, hagee, racism, wright, rattso. OMG there would be a media explosion that would be felt to japan. let’s be real please.

Nah. It’s just rock politics. Try playing to a crowd of Bruuuuuucccee fans. And it’s Southern politics. Welcome to the revival. True believers get rowdy.
The Republicans are already running ads here in Alabama using Obama to beat the local Democrats. This isn’t just Hillary’s campaign anymore. A lot of Democratic candidates are tied to the Obama train wreck in progress.

thank you dc voter and erik for the information. i value posts that contain cited information that is verifiable. that shows that the poster is informed, beyond just spewing hate and opinion.

@ DCVoter: EXCELLENT post!

omentum, do you mean to tell me that the rev wright’s comments toward america, patriotism, racism, ‘were not as severe’ as those of the kkk. wow….i despise everything there is to do with hate and racism and un-americanism. i believe in freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and all the other blessings our constitution gives us. the rev wright tainted my feelings on obama when obama did not act when he should have.

did you not get the memo …. wright is on hillary boat…. since an enthusiastic hillary supporter invited him to the press club….. Thanks …. you gave barack obama another opportunity to show he is a statesman and able to react properly in a tough situation….
Not like your girl hillary… I can still remember here complaining in the debates asking the moderators to get obama a pillow and in ohio ranting “shame on you obama” what a whackjob… and you want that in the oval office making global decisions.

thank you staniam.

@ Obama supporters whoever said boo is not childish but freedom of speech.
If they don’t like whatever Hillary said at that rally why don’t they just leave rather than interrupting.
Nobody force them to stay and listen to her.

The handwriting is on the Wall!
Time to Go Home Hillary and take
Bill with You!

rizabove
Gov Easley is sortof a stiff but that means hes tough and wont listen to the Obamanation! Obama has not won one major state that every candidate has to win in the GE

Hey Omentum..Perhaps what CarlaSue meant is that under an Obama presidency, it may become politcially correct to do so. The BO campaign makes people believe that things could “change”. It’s not BO so much…..it’s his supporters.

Bud
THe National Press Club Pres said it was not a CLinton supporter who arranged the speech and furthermore that doctored video about the 92 Clinton war room is inaccurate Pres Clinton did not use expletives in the real meeting I remember it most of you where like 2 then!

carlasue rev wright was preaching about the injustices in America done to minorities. He said many blacks did not feel like singing God bless America… Wright’s message is far a man who lived through jim crow, voter and civil rights…he never got over the injustices obviously and is still angry because of the wrongs committed, but obama didn’t grow up during that era, all of us have parents and grandparents who lived through that era and they tell their stories and triumphs… Some still mad like wright, but we still hear it…Obama dowsn’t feel the same way…that is a big well known southside chicago church, it’s a buppy church not a cult or compound, he isn’t brainwashed, get over it. I say just vote for whomever you like, that we can do.

TJ
since the Jefferson-Jackson Dinners are DNC functions its no surprise… DR Dean was comlianing about a lack of money at the DNC (I know I refused to renew my mombership) because of their mistakes

Obama supporters bash folks who disagree with their liberal philosphy.
Obama supporters BOO anyone who doesnt think like they do.
You guys think Obama has it tough right now? How about when Fox gets around to asking him about black libertarian philosophy?
his church has been practicing it for long before Obama got there.
How does he say he doesnt believe in it nor the ‘black value system’ but went to the church?
He doesnt. Hannity went and got experts, other black preachers to discuss it and trinity church.
All they have to do is tie in the philosophy to the church and Obama is toast for sure this time.
Whats Obama going to say to that? He wasnt in the pews at all? He never read the manifesto? He didnt know the black value system?

I really think Clinton can win the nomination. If she does not though, I will take my money and my vote elsewhere. I hear Obama supporters saying all the time what they will do if he does not get the nomination. Unfortunately, they really have nowhere to go. They are the left. I really do not want to be left to voting for McCain. I like Clinton, but also could have easily voted Gore, Edwards, etc. I voted for John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton twice proudly. I can and will not vote for Obama. This is a sad fact that the DNC fails to recognize. It is absolutely not a threat. I do not feel extremely fanatical about Clinton, I just cannot vote for Obama. Finally, Clinton has gotten some of the worst press and sexist stuff too. I read one article somewhere that said she was “pimping Chelsea”. This is just crude, and I am tired of the behavior of the press–getting away with behavior like that and so much more. The DNC is really silly if they buy into all this. Sorry it is the truth. They say hindisght is 20/20 but some in the party are trying to warn you ahead of time of the disaster looming ahead.

clinton should win the nom!!! can anyone else comment with me about the o’reilly interview on fox. yes i don’t like the right-wing crap on fox, and yes, oreilly is the worst of the worst of right-wing journalists, but wow, did hillary stun him….he looked like the perverbial ‘deer in the headlights’ after the interview….can anyone else do that….

@DCVoter: Always good to see your posts, but the picture you paint is overly optimistic and is based on data that do not transfer to the general election. Either democratic candidate would have a good chance against McCain and the ‘electability’ argument only matters the day after the second tuesday in November.

hey bud….thanks for the post. yes we agree to disagree….but from one dog lover to another, from one father’s war hero to another, from one democrat to another…..we need to stand united. we need to put hate in it’s place….it has NO PLACE for the human race…..god bless all of us.

Of course Clinton will help Obama. She is a democrat.
I will vote for Mc Cain, and if he cant make his case to me, then I will write hillarys name on the ballot.
I will not vote for Obama out of pure concience. He is a fine man, but ran before he was ready and has too many dubious relationships that are too radical left.
Once he gets some experience in the senate, and ditches his left wing philosophy and moves to the center, he will surely win the presidency.
We clinton supporters will be Obama supporters surely one day. But he isnt ready and its not responsible to elect him.

MIguy, i don’t pay attention to the polls either…..too many of them, and too confusing. what a waste of time. you could bounce from one news channel to another, and find vast differences in ‘poll’s…. let’s just find out the real deal on tues.

@DCVoter: No argument – I agree that the superdelegates can choose whomever they want based on whatever criteria they desire. I just personally believe that either Senator Clintor or Obama can be ‘electable’ in November.

darn right staniam and dc. let us hear the voice of the whole nation. don’t cut us short.

Booing while Senator Clinton was speaking? I’m proud that they WEREN’T on her side, with behavior like that! Whether or not you agree with what candidates say, booing is just plain rude…

@carla sue: i’m a big fan of letting voters decide things. i wish more would show up at the polls in general.
@ruthmatters: i humbly disagree about the gas tax ‘holiday’. it is, at its essence, akin to giving a heroin addict another hit. yeah, i’m bleeding at the pump too but what you noted is that a lower price would cause increased demand, followed by tighter supply, and higher prices. it’s a zero-sum game for motorists but benefits big oil companies by shifting money that would repair our roads to their coffers.

carlasue, I don’t agree with wright but understand his bitterness. He does need to forgive and move on, but he wasn’t saying he hated whites, he was saying America had been injury to it’s people, do you think that is an untrue statement? I personally think during my lifetime things have changed and gotten much better, people have more of a mutual respect, but all have to try to come together even more. We cannot be held accountable for how our relatives feel or how our pastors feel, we have to embrace everybody forgive and move forward. Obama made a decision to split from his pastor b/c he doesn’t seem willing to forgive and move forward, but obama’s message is clear, he wants unity. Obama has seen the best and the worst of both worlds, he’s not perfect but he’s trying to get everyone motivated and engaged.

And why should anyone be surprised when a speech given by Hillary Clinton in front of Obama supporters receives the same greeting that it would if it was being given in Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity Church?
Obama can speak with her in front of a biased crowd, but he doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to debate her.
Spineless…

As an Independent, you know- one of those pesky little voters who swing elections…..
If Hillary Clinton steal this nomination, you will have a wealth of other Independents along with myself thatmay just make life not so nice.
Remember, we’ve already tolerated 8 years of imbecile voter repucussions, another 4 based on the merit, and not lies and MSM media is why we ARE INDEPENDENT.
Independents will not vote for someone who makes their own rules based on entitlement. It just won’t happen.

PGHPAVOTER
yea this reminds me of the John Adams series they were as partisan back then but realized late in life that they shouldve been more accomodating to the other Adams and Jefferson that is if the radicals want to start another party let them

And just for proof-
I publicly state-
WE NEED A THIRD PARTY IN ALL ELECTIONS-
this 2 party #### is about 100 years too old.
Worked great when the population was less then a million, but hardly accomodates the majority of opinions this day in age.

Bud
on the contrary entitlement is the foundation of Obamas campaign yes we can is what teenagers say when they dont get to do what they want!

DCVoter,
I caught an interesting article, I believe by Novak, don’t remember where, covering the poll distortion. It discounted the Bradley effect in this case. According to his theory the distortion has come from the inability of young pollsters to approach or connect with senior voters, in disproportionate numbers. If true, then the enthusiasm of youthful backers of Obama is causing the polls to skew in Obama’s favor, which explains the lopside win in Pennsylvania. This is all good news for Hillary. Even pollster.com, which has carried a sustained anti-Hillary bias for several months shows that Obama is starting to be crushed at warp speed. I’m starting to put a lot of credence in this theory, which leads me to believe that Hillary will capture the popular vote by June 3rd, not even counting Michigan and Florida. What do you think?
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If we’re good Democrats, shouldn’t we find a way to include Michigan and Florida?

@staniam:
I am not trying to reduce or dismiss your comment as your vote is as important as anyone’s. However, I think it is difficult to predict what those beyond us (or even in our sphere of influence) will do.

I see Obama as the reason for the fracture of the democratic party. As long as Clinton is in the race, the democratic party has a chance of winning and remaining strong. If Obama gets the nomination, a lot of Clinton people will defect. McGovern had similar demographics, and he lost big time and 6 million democrats left the party for good.

Obama team twisting the truth or lying to voters?? Here is another one…
On it’s homepage, the Obama campaign is promoting a New Republic article from early February, claiming Obama outperforms Hillary against McCain in every poll.
This is not true and hasn’t been for some time. Currently, Hillary outperforms Sen. Obama in most polls. The AP reports on their poll, released today:
Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.
The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.
Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.

In response to one poster’s observation that Obama hasn’t addressed a crowd of Clinton supporters and the implication that Obama’s supporters are just so gracious and wonderful, um, NO, Obama supporters are NOT so great and gracious. They were the ones booing NC’s governor at the dinner this evening – very tacky, I think, in this setting. I’m also disappointed that this article is so biased. Hillary was NOT rendered speechless at ANY point in the evening. Also, Obama couldn’t address the crowd of Clinton supporters because many of them departed after hearing the star of the show. His speech was, in all fairness, probably scheduled after hers because of a conflict with an appearance he had in Charlotte this evening that necessitated a later speaking time. Still, Clinton supporters had the benefit of hearing their candidate and exiting to attend her after-party rally. Had she been the final speaker, you can best believe we would have behaved much more graciously than did the crowd representing him this evening. I’m sure even he would have been ashamed of such divisive and disrespectful behavior.

Mondale,Dukakis,Gore,Kerry won the
nomination but ALL lost the general
elections.
I believe the next democratic candidate
will go down the same roard.
No ultra liberal ever won the white
house.
In general elections Americans looking
for a candidate with certain values.
Obama doesn’t hold those values,special
among the white america.
Obama’s electability is zero in
november.He may win the nomination,but
in november elections will join the team of losers.

miguy, i understand your point of view, but disagree. in many ways, obama’s stated positions are like hillary’s – and copied from hers – but there can be a huge difference in what a candidate says and what he does. i think this is particularly true for obama, who really hasn’t done anything (obamabots line up now to list the bills he allegedly passed – they were handed to him by one of his backers to help him build a resume. do the research). also, obama has shown himself highly susceptible to unpleasant influence as well as highly unsure of his own identity, which can be a recipe for disaster.
but even if one disagrees about all that, there is the other point – about the likely actions of hillary’s supporters if obama is nominated. i agree that many will stay home/vote nader/write in hillary. and that enough would probably cost him the general.
however, many will vote mccain, for two reasons: 1) because they feel so very strongly that obama simply must not be elected; and 2) because mccain is in fact more closely aligned to their views than obama. one can argue about the latter, but many hillary supporters are in fact moderates and obama is far from moderate. given the choice of a far left dem or a relatively centrist repub, many will choose the repub.
another point is the longterm effects of such a move. obamabots are fond of saying that the african-american and youth voters will defect from the party forever. however, this is based on their current emotions about one individual candidate. in the long run, people tend to calm down and return to form.
if, however, moderate voters switch parties, they are likely to stay gone. after all, they were closer to the line anyway. as you know, the reagan democrats stayed gone until bill clinton came along and they wouldn’t have returned then if obama, kerry, etc., had been the nominee.
and finally, all of this presupposes that even more highly damaging information doesn’t come out about obama. i strongly believe that it will. and if it does, all discussion based on historical patterns, etc., will be out the window. there is a threshold for this sort of thing (wright, ayers/dohrn, rezko, etc.) that, once passed, cannot be overcome. obama will be painted as socialist, radical, dishonest, weak, etc. and it will stick – i think it will appropriately stick, but respect your different opinion.
well, it’s late. jazz won big. off to bed. have a good one.

Bud,
In my book name recognition is probably a better gauge to make a decision, say when it comes to electing Presidents or buying beer than a toss of the dice for the unknown. By the way, I’d rather throw down a good pint of name brand beer anytime versus weak coolaid.
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Obama, bitter, bitter, Obama
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@DCVoter: As you noted (I think it was you some time ago at least), if polls were accurate predictors at this stage then John Kerry would be president. It is just not feasible to extrapolate current polls/statistics to the general election at this point.
@so saddened: respect your opinion, but i’m not sure that Senator Clinton is as moderate as you suggest. she does seem to take the majority opinion generally, so that may balance her from swinging too far in either direction. but i’m not sure this is an asset.
anyway, you’re right, it’s late and i think we all are interested in what happens on tuesday. thanks for the diversion from work tonight – goodnite all.

Bud – the FL state democratic party did not violate the DNC rules. They asked for a date that was within the rules and the FL legislature (rep controlled currently) moved the date up causing the problem with FL. On top of that, the DNC did not treat all states equally which violated their own rules and the constitutional right of FL voters guaranteed by the constitution under the equal protection clause. This was affirmed as a substantive argument in the case heard by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. They ordered the district court to vacate its ruling against a FL voter and instructed him how to refile his case. As a FL voter you might want to follow that case closely. I disagree with the contention that FL voters did not know who Obama is – do you not have newspapers, Internet, television, cable, and satellite services? Of course you do! The FL primary turnout was twice the 2004 turnout which validated the will of the voters. The FL SOS certified the election results and noted there were almost no voting irregularities. Did Obama make a dent? Sure but that happened because of the MSM coverage which FL voters had access to.

MIguy – perhaps you should watch the documentary about the 2004 election noting the reason Kerry lost was caused by election fraud he chose not to investigate and conceded too early (against his own campaign promises). The Ohio SOS has confirmed the fraud and the Office of Homeland Security is being sued by Ohio for destroying federal election results. In the documentary, officials testified that Kerry confirmed he knew that NM had fraudulent election results and chose not to fight them because he believed he would win anyway. Then he conceded without waiting until all the votes were verified in Ohio. He lost the election by his own choice and the DNC was complicit. They are all incompetent.

The old powerbase of the world is shifting and people are a scared of what tomorrow brings. It will be a better world if Obama is elected. So let go of your hate for those who do no resemble you. You are going into a era of cooperation. The entire globe is under distress, you see it and feel it but you are so steeped in hate and fear. You might as well put down your daggers and sword and march on peacefully. A change is coming!

Cristyn – that townhall is being held because Obama refused to debate Clinton – he was invited to debate and he declined. George may have worked for WJC but he is anti-Hillary as shown on his shows and his stupid questions to her about irrelevant topics. She holds her own with him the same as she does with any MSM host or pundit. His job is to increase viewership and ratings for his employer. Please dont confuse loyalties with advertising dollars.

I will vote Democrat in the fall. If it happens to be Hillary, I will cast my vote with vomit in my throat. But I’m not stupid enough to let this country suffer Bush’s 3rd term. Only idiots threaten that kind of stuff.

carlasue – I think it is a given that a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket would result in a landslide win for the dems in Nov. Only the anti-Clinton folks in the DNC like Pelosi, Reid, Leahy, and Dean are against that ticket. Kennedy and Kerry want Obama but at least they are not stupid enough to voice opposition. I will support a Clinton/Obama ticket without question. I would likely support an Obama/Clinton ticket only because I know she is strong enough to control Obama and prevent Kennedy and Kerry from controlling him. I will not vote for Obama without Clinton in the mix… period. I am an American first, an Independent second, and a democratic supporter third. As for the good of the country, my perspective has not changed. No matter who is POTUS, it will be Congress who effects change and I will vote for democrats for Congress no matter who I need to vote for because we will never get change without a filibuster proof democratic majority. With McCain, he has enough respect in Congress as a maverick, centrist, and bipartisan player that Congress will keep him in check – and he will only get through 1 term at most. With Obama, he will be another Carter that cannot get anything done that he proposes because Congress will not bankrupt the country with an increase in personal income, payroll tax, and capital gains taxes. With Clinton, she already has bipartisan support in Congress and has both a great command of the issues, a proven record of smart change, and the strength and respect to be CIC. So as an Independent, in my view, the choices are Clinton, McCain, and then Obama. Luckily, I only have to choose between Clinton and McCain. With 44% of the country identifying as Independents, there is no doubt the DNC is worried they will lose by their own devices. I hope and believe the voters and the SDs will select Clinton as the nominee so that I do not have a tough choice to make.

Rosie,
I think as Democrats, we need to be careful of bringing issues up that have nothing to do with a person’s ability to be President. Bill’s infidelities are in no way an indication of what kind of leader Hillary would make. Once we start playing that game, we open the floodgates for Republicans to criticize Obama (and any other Democrat) for all the non-issues that have come out lately (by the way, they’re deviding us Democrats on silly issues on purpose!)
However, you do bring up an interesting point. I for one don’t want to be around all the scandal that will be in the tabloids IF the Clintons are in the White House again (which I think I can safely say, they won’t be). I have definitely taken that into consideration in deciding who to support (along with the fact that Obama is the only inspiring politician I’ve seen in my lifetime).

Indiana and North Carolina please end this run for Obama, he’s a divider not a uniter like he claims. He’s dividing the democratic party and the country too. Obama and his supporters are arrogant, immature people that hate anyone that doesn’t agree with them.

Persio,
I think maybe you just feel that way because your candidate doesn’t really have a chance. Hillary people can be plenty mean an immature, too. I’m fairly certain that those traits aren’t specific to any one candidate or group of people.

Cristyn – had Obama had the integrity to stand true to his commitment in 2004 to not make a run in 2008 because he did not consider himself qualified, we would already have Clinton as a nominee and possibly him as a running mate. Instead he chose to be manipulated by Kennedy, Kerry, Leahy, Pelosi, Reid, and Dean into running against his mentor in the Senate whom they abhor and blame for losing control of the party to WJC for 8 years. There is so much more to politics than the voters realize. But there are more centrists in the party than there are liberals and this year they are faced with losing control again if Clinton gets the nomination.
“Centrism is not defined by compromise or moderation, it is considerate of them. It’s about achieving common sense solutions that fit the current needs; support the public trust; serve the common good; and are considerate of short and long term needs.”
70% of our country are centrists. The majority of core democrats are centrists. The DNC has failed to win more than one GE with a liberal candidate and that was Carter who accomplished zero and was defeated in a landslide election as the incumbent. That loss is the reason superdelegates were created to prevent that from happening again.
Gore was a centrist and fiscal conservative that won an election but lost because the DNC was too incompetent to win in court and too weak to get at least one democratic senator to join with 1 of 13 representatives in overriding the Supreme Court decision to block the vote recount. In 2004, they tried to push a liberal who could not garner enough support to override election fraud and were complicit in his concession without verifying the votes with a recount in Ohio. In 2006, they failed to win enough seats to achieve a filibuster proof Senate and will fail to do so again if they lose the GE in Nov.
Hopefully, the centrists in the DNC will do the right thing and take control again. The eagle cannot fly on one wing alone. In our diverse nation, we need a centrist who can unite the right and left wings with the centrist body – a liberal candidate like Obama would never accomplish that – a centrist like Clinton will. If you want your hopes to become reality, Clinton must be on the ticket.

cristyn…good for you!!! i love to hear the young people on this blog express their opinion. not that i am old for heaven sakes. but anyway….i think obama is trying to ‘imitate’ the best politicians in history….JFK etc…there will never be another one of those. and BTW i guess, by the facts, or so they say, he had affair after affair, but he was one of the most beloved presidents of our time.
I think obama’s time is not now. he is up and coming and should represent more than the ‘now’. we have to represent ‘all.’ with the majority of voters being in the baby boomer era, obama must reach out to them, and prove that he is for real. i am afraid he just doesn’t know how. hillary does. did you see the o’rielly factor on fox news. she blew him away. go hillary.

good posts and facts dc.

Geezer52 sorry to say but half of the democratic party wants Hillary to win. So what you’re saying that half of the democratic party is so blind and stupid not to see her ways? Or maybe THAT half prefers and trust her more than Obama with all his negatives!

Hillary doesnt just have a chance she has a big one and when she beats Obama you will turn on the media with your hateful rehtoric they dont want you to get mad at them but the race is over for Obama he will not win!

Hillary and those who support her
are making very bad decisionS who will hurt the party. vote for Obama
WAY TO GO OBAMA 2008

I guess we got the bad commercials for Obama crowd on tonight if you dont have anything to say that is constructive just go away because you wont influence us Clinton folks

It was only affirmative action that got Obama to the place he is today and thats not racist!

Sonia
yea that one superdelegate that was a former DNC chairman(DNC is irrelevant now)anyway Joe Andrew was supposedly going to bring a lot of cash in to the campaign that you dont have to count:) Hillary has money but guts too!

Carlasue
Yea well who do you think is a better representitive of Indiana Andrew or Evan Baye:) they might as well have gotten Dan Quayle their trying to be the spoiler candidate for the republicans!

Up until this election cycle, I had no idea how RADICAL the left of the democratic party is. The far left liberals are just as nuts as the far right ultra conservatives.
I dont know if I will even stay in the democratic party if the far left takes it over. Last time that happened was the Carter years and we all know how that turned out.
We really should start a third party.
The centerist party. The party that takes the best of the republican ideals and the democratic ideals, and throws the rest into the waste bin.

Hillary complains about Obama whinning when it was she who whine about why am I always asked the question first and even cried because she thought she was about to lose because she just wanted to stay in the race, lied about being shot at among other things, Bill claims he gets upset when someone talks about his love one, He who humiliated her more than anyone ever could in front of the whole world, and seems to be getting senile lied about her being the lst lady and her being the first to visit other countries, and sold out American jobs to other countries. She talks about all that she’s done which hasn’t amounted to much. Women are no better off by her having been in gov’t thus far. Playing her campaign off Wright, who by the way, has freedom of speech which is an american right. She should be trying to condemn Bush who has this country in the worst shape in history. Speak on the issues and stop trying to bring your opponent down, we are tried of hearing this mess. What are you going to do?

Actually I was just trying to figure out how many more supporters JM was going to receive…. Either way I think he wins because there is such division amongst the Dems. And if you stay home and don’t vote, you cast your vote as if you voted for him, anyway. I’m just trying to find out what the lessor of two evils is. Because I believe when it is all said and done… It will be Bo vs JM……Just another thought………

I am over 50, white, catholic and lost my job to NAFTA =went to Mexico-Hillary complained a few months ago about all the media picking on her-and now they have turned on Obama-Chris Mathews thinks Hillary is going to win the nomination and LOVES her=even though he said she is embellishing the truth about NAFTA and even though she said she would obliterate Iran-which he said was only said in a campaign moment that that didn’t count and even Bill O’Reilly said that He interviews a woman candidate different than he does men so her spin zone wasn’t like the men candidates are going to get-and then on MSNBC Birch Bayh said that Hillary is leading among REAL voters=Caucus states do not vote so their view should not be counted\talk about an elitest group=hey all you states that had caucuses=your voice should not be counted in determining delegates=Bill and Hillary have short term memory about NAFTA=they got it passed and even Chris Mathews said it’s rather funny how she has selective memory but thinks it’s great she’s getting away with it=so don’t tell me all news media is against Hillary\It seems when Hillary cries foul about negative remarks she can whine=when Obama supporters cry foul we are whiners=she is saying anything to win and oh by the way-I am BITTER-she and Bill lost my job for me 5 years ago=people wake up and you know we are going to hear all about Whitewater, Monica, sniper fire, bill’s pardons=gee two of them were friends of Ayers=how soon we forget=this needs to be over and we need someone new-who was against the war and just because he isn’t going for the jugular doesn’t mean someone will not be a good president. Go Obama and blue coller workers=I used to be one-Remember who got NAFTA voted into law=the Clintons-It’s laughable that she’s saying she was against it=

If they would have escoreted the Obama supporters out of the hall the place would have been empty. They were very few people who supported Clinton. This is likely to be indicative of the results on Tuesday.

The reasons why Obama won’t debate Clinton yet again:
1. He refuses to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
2. He prefers to stay far away from her foul mouth lest some of the filth contaminate him.
3. He has already debated her 21 times. He didn’t set the format for those debates; he didn’t approve the questions for those debates, so Clinton should by now have some idea what he might say in such a debate. Repetition is redundant.
4. It’s hard for a gentleman of his sensibilities to spend an hour or two putting down, contradicting, and rebutting every thing said to him by such a lovely lady as Clinton is.

Bjon
you have Hilary confused with Obama he has no substance

Mariann
I agree there is no substance at Obama rallys and they are rude and I worked for a rally in asheville NC for Hillary and peopl were respectful and Hillary was the best Id ever seen her the rally in another town in western NC yesterday was in republican territoery and got 2500 people this end of the state will give her a 1 pt victory statewide

Um Dora
Obama is part of that 1 percent and thats what hes doing but when Hillaruy is elected we will make him pay litterally! out of touch elitist ultra liberals do not own this party

Mariann
Well said it has always been speeches versus action and results and Hillary actually has nice non thugs working for her!

WOW! There are other things much more important than this article. I am not sure exactly how a ‘BOO’ for a NC governor became the subject of substance of thee hour. As I read through these comments, as an Independent, it makes me wonder why such paucities overshadow real issues in America (e.g. Gas prices, universal health care, economy). I would love to actually once see some commentary from the spilt Democratic party on these subjects: Democrats are ensnared continually over defending none issue articles; this is a daunting assertion. “How does this win me over as an Independent? It is already true that Democrats know their respective corners, this is painfully obvious and I seriously doubt that Democrats will rally together like Republicans do so much eloquently come Nov. Aren’t you all tired of this (in) fighting DEM’S?
I encourage you all to get beyond this ‘high school mentality’ get out there and help people learn about the good things your candidate will bring to the table instead of but slogans. Give me a reason to vote for your candidate this November. I don’t want to hear about ‘Experience & Toughness’; many of the most prominent presidents in our history had little experience in big government and yet had to be tough against conventional wisdom to do great things for the American people (do your research). I don’t want to hear about ‘Change’ unless someone can tell me what’s going to change (direct me to some facts about some of these changes that will take place).
Good luck to us all Nov 08.

NCvoter
Good point I said about the same thing earlier tonight the poltical hacks and pundits have no idea what they are talking about NC doesnt want Obama!

I can’t understand why some people bring the race issue into this campaign. It means, after all, America is not what she is, the so called Liberator and the champion of the oppressed. The fact is America is too quick to judge what is right for other and too slow to judge the ideology that remains deep within, like painting Obama with Black Liberation Theology. This does not make sense at all. If we can look beyond the past ideologies of race and color, then Obama’s candidacy portrays the image of what America stands for, LIBERATION. Let this be in Obama.

The main problem that I have with Obama is that this guy is so arrogant he has not done anything to earn that hardest job in that world. Our country could easily slip into becoming a weak nation after what we have been through the last 7 years. We need someone who we know can handle this job. In 2004 Obama admitted he was not qualified to run for office this time around and now he is running. He is so arrogant to think he can solve the country’s problems even though he has only been in the senate for 2 years.

If Obama and his campaign are the ‘new’ politics, I will take the old politics instead thanks.

“If you want a true role model and one that you want your children and grand children to follow he is the man.”
Warren, I don’t want a role model for my kids who voted against a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have required school boards to install software on public computers accessible to minors to block sexually explicit material. That was HB 1812 (in 1999).
Nor do I want as a role model for my children a man who voted against a crime bill in the Illinois State Senate to give no offer of “good time” for sex offenders sentenced to the County Jail.
*Obama was the only vote against this measure. That was SB 485 (also in 1999).
Do some research, folks. What kind of man votes like this? We know all about your candidate.

Joe J is right!
Obama keeps talking about how he is the only one telling the public the truth. To me this is very condescending. He makes it sound like the American people could not understand what is happening in the world if he did not explain it. Oh thanks for doing the hard math on how much the gas tax would save us, Obama. He is an elitist.

“She simply refused to answer questions that she deems inappropriate, then rails against Obama if he does the same thing (which he doesn’t!).”
TIKA–I believe your buddy Obama has been challenged to multiple debates with Hillary in the past week or so, but he has declined. If you’re wondering who won’t answer questions they think are inappropriate, you ahve only to look at your joke of a candidate. He’s afraid to debate her again because he got trounced in the Philly debate.
I think you need to get over it, and open your eyes.

Take it to the floor, Hillary. Show them what you are made of. If the DNC betray you, the good old boy can use some help from you to save this country from a 4 years of sleeping with the enemy.

Debate? Do you really call that Clinton-inspired ABC attack against Obama a debate? I would NEVER agree to any debate with Clinton after witnessing that smirking George ripping into Obama and then defending himself by saying it was fair.
BS.
The ONLY way that would have even approached the fairness quota would have been if for EVERY SINGLE gotcha question they threw at Obama, they threw a similar one at Hillary.
Oh, I forgot! Hillary doesn’t EVER have to answer for her actions because she has been vetted.
BS.
That was the hatchet job of the century,
and if you think in any way shape or form that the fact Obama doesn’t want to go through another Hillary love fest portrayed as a debate, then you have truly gone over to the dark side and there is no hope for you.

“That was the hatchet job of the century”
TIKA–if it makes you feel better to believe that it was a “hatchet job” when your candidate stumbled, ummed, ahhed, got cranky when finally asked real questions, and, oh yeah – LOST THE DEBATE, go right ahead and believe it.
We’re used to the delusions of the Obama fans. Its ok. Its actually been given a name – ODS or Obama Derangement Syndrome. It causes irrational adoration.

I am still waiting fr a report from one of the major networks about the shenanigans of the Obama teams during the Texas Caucus’. It thoroughly explains the reason we’ve not yet received the results of those caucus and how the results we have gotten don’t match the actual primary voting in the state. This has occured all over the country in states that have held caucus’. What does the Obama campaign teach in their organizing sessions and exactly what did Sen. Obama organize in Chicago when he claims that he was a community organizer? When is Obama and Wright going to be asked about the violence that is rocking the inner city of Chicago where children are being killed by gunfire going to school. Just exactly what have they done for these people? Rezko anyone?

Talk about toughness:
Hillary is the one, no matter how much we all pretend and deny it.
“Again. Obama would never give a speech in front of a bunch of Clinton supporters. This is the third speech she has given in front of Obama supporters.”
Obama = Coward + Fraud

Moderator: Do you believe that life begins at inception? and Senator Clinton? . Hillary: ” I believe life has potential at inception”. Moderator:” and you, Senator Obama?”. Obama :” uhm…uhm…uhm…I haven’t really given it much thought…uhm…” . People, make your own judgement. This is what happens at the abortion issue debate, as a leader of the nation that leader needs to take a stand of his or her own and stick with it no matter what. Playing it safe is not a character of a leader. There are two good people who run for the White House, let’s support either one for the sake of our nation.

Obama land is in NC..
Hillary knows it, she felt it last night. So you should just go with the flow and Smile pretty.

-African American base which is the Democratic party’s souland destroy it. Don’t even dare.-
Really? You think you can win an election nationally without the all the other demographic groups? You think you are more important than latinos, whites, asians, women, men, working class, etc? Yeah, see how that works out for you when we deflect to McCain.. if you keep threatening us with that horse manure. All democratic base groups are important, yours no more so than any other.

At least Clinton had the guts to talk to them… and Bill O’Reilly. All Obama can do it give canned speeches.. he sucks in debates and O’Reilly would eat him for lunch. YOu LIberals are being HAD.

Hope and courage are more than crucial virtues: they are the very engine that encourages
others to join a common endeavour that can take on powerful opponents. And this dynamic creates a great deal more than particular benefits for individual citizens. It recognises that they themselves possess the ultimate liberty: the political liberty of designing their common future. Is it any wonder Obama is so wildly appreciated by the powerless, by people across parties, and especially by the younger generation of Americans?
Another attribute of Obama’s technique is that once this common process is initiated, creative answers to obstacles do not emerge only from the strategy room at the top of the campaign but also from a much larger arena of action, where organised structures at every level constantly produce new solutions.
This is the precise strategy that Obama would bring
into Washington in November, and into the White House
in January. For the ideology of Obama is,
historically, a successful strategy to overcome
entrenched, powerful interests through popular
mobilisation. It is neither a bottom-up nor top-down process but something larger than the sum of both, working both inside and outside national institutions towards a common goal.

They would not bomb us, they will despise for phony clintons.
ALL THE WORLD is looking at us ib US for new, greater pass to future with Obama.And certainly not back to 90th, where phony calls to go.
ALL THE WORLD know ckintons dirt. That dirt does not matter much for them, but does for us, and they think – how Greatest Country in the World can accept that dirt and let it develope.
Clintonists, why do you have such a great desire to be fooled?

Nice job Obama supporters in NC. That kind of behavior may play well in Obama’s church or the hood, but not in small town American.

Obama is so far removed from reality and the working class. We would save more than a mere 30cents if the gas tax were temporarily suspended. Out here in the southwest we must drive everywhere. People are paying $100 or more per week for gasoline just to drive to work!!!
Milk is over $4 per gallon, bread $3+ per loaf, eggs $2.40 per dozen. Get real Obama – any relief – even if from gasoline tax will be helpful!!!

Matt: Gritty phoniness is more like it. In California she played to the left wing anti war crowd. In PA she was the home girl beer slugger. In NC she brings on the southern drawl. There is absolutely nothing genuine about this woman. She plays to the crowd of the day. She won NJ by 10 and now the NJ polls are saying the state is strongly in favor of Obama. She doesn’t know who she is. She’s a terrible role model for women. Some values – her husband publicly humiliated her. What has she accomplished on her own? She rode her husband’s coattails into the Senate just as she’s trying to ride them into the White House. If Bill wasn’t campaining in the south with his noticeably heavier southern drawl trying to appeal to the Bubba vote, she wouldn’t have a shot down there. She’s a pathetic panderer.

I’ve been reading these blogs and it is pathetic. Voting for a republican on either side just to spite the other side is crazy. People are at war dying for real. And when it comes to HRC or BO no one here really knows either one of them. Just what they have heard. Can anyone here really say they can see whats in the canidates hearts?

Cauchy: the PAUL v. CLINTON case is exactly the reason the super delegates are trending towards Obama. Hillary got a pass when the California judge postponed the trial until after the election. This is an election fraud case pertaining to her Senate campaign and there is a lot of hard evidence. The super delegates know it’s coming.

Free thinker:
The reason I will vote Republican if Obama is not the nominee is that right now we are in war and McCain would probably continue that but I see it as a lesser evil than Hillary getting in and making deals and lying behind our backs like the tie they have with Columbia they swept under the rug and the Peter Paul case going on that I know McCain’s camp will drudge up in the election. She would cause more harm than good to our country because she is deceitful and would be causing mistrust in other leaders of other countries and putting us at a greater risk for other wars. Just because she’s a Dem doesn’t mean she’s right for the job. You can’t lie to another country and then say oops I must have been tired that day. They won’t accept that. She will harm our country and that’s why it’ better to vote Republican if she gets nominated.
Obama 08

Pamela:
I understand what you are saying. I should have been more specific. I am referring to those who are blinded and stuck on either HRC or BO simply because it is fashionable right now. Republicans are thrilled about mccain but will still fight and lie to the end to have him elected.

I completely agree with the poster who told that moderate rationally thinking democrats (I and my friends belong there) have to abandon this radical left wing Dem Party hijacked by ultra leftists like Howard Dean, Nancy Pelossi and create a new Democratic Conservative Party. I and my friends join it immediately and we’ll see how those who left with such leaders and loosers Dean, Ted Kennedy, Kerry and others will be doing. CNN, MSNBC and other supported them media will help them how it helping them now showing up untrustful, unexperienced, phony Obama through our throats.
Moderate, democratic oriented, rationally thinking people join!
And we will take Clintons our leaders!
They showed such disrespect tryi

For the person who is trying to give Hillary props for making a speech in front of “Obama supporters”… do you not realize that this was supposed to be a crowd representing the full spectrum of the Democratic Party in NC and not an “Obama crowd” per se? The fact that she got that cold and even rude reception is an indication that the NC voters in general have rejected her.

Saying people aren’t voting for Obama because of his mixed heritage is just obscene. I hear a lot of this whiney complaining by Obama people but I don’t hear many people accuse non-Clinton supporters of not voting for her because she is a woman. With Obama, it’s always blame it on race, blame it on race.

Whoever said Obama is the reincarnate of JFK- what a horrible, horrible thing to say.

Keith: “Can the Obama backers of NC even actually spell his complete name”
Last time I checked it was Obama who is winning the educated vote. The Clintons prefer to use the condescending approach and take for granted that they can brainwash the average voter.

Wow, reading all these posts is scary. Way to much hate.
The Clinton’s have been liers for a very long time, anyone who believes the gas tax holiday is anything more then a sound bit then thinks the policies over the last 8 years were good ones.Why is Hillary calling all the sleaze from the republican media friends? Please people not another 4 years of corperate ownership of the USA government, please.

truth, what kind of change are you talking about? Sounds like more buzz words to me. “Put down your daggers and sword”? The “old powerbase of the world is shifting”? Sounds like we are all going to disarm immediately. What in the heck are you talking about? Sounds like Rev. Wright must be leading the way. He and Farrakan. It might help if you have some specifics to explain what you are talking about.

How People cannot see that CLINTON Is PART Of the Problem Is Beyond me..We Need a President who Has NOT Been Heavily Influenced by Washington and By Politics in General..We Need NEW Ideas and a New Attitude.To Break down the Barriers Between Races and Between Cultures and to STOP Feeding the People of America all the the BS Rhetoric that has been shoveled down out Throats since as long as I Can remember..My Support and My Vote will be going to OBAMA and anyone who is tired of the “Same Old,Same Old” From Washington I Urge you to do the same.We need to think of Our Future and Barrack Obama is the Man to Insure that we’ll HAVE A Future.

You know what…Im white mid. class and just want every 1 to know since that super tuesday in feb. would not be the same outcome if done today. No 1 and I mean no 1 here likes, can stand, or would vote for Hillary. I wish she would shut the F%$Ck UP…… 80% of what she ses is lies, and the rest she is a hypocritical. By the time this is over she will have destroyed any political car. she might of otherwise had. Hillary folowers are just a bunch of bitter old white women, and racist cowards who say they are not racist, but act totaly diferent……. Old politics, old beliefs, and old news. The peaple are sick of this crap and we are takeing back our government. Obama for president…

Bill Clinton looked into the eyes of the American public and flat out lied about his sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky. Hillary Clinton looked into the eyes of the American media and absolutely LIED about coming under sniper fire which was a real slap in the face of the men and women who wear the military uniform. Her daughter Chelsea Clinton echoed that lie in defense of her mother’s in defensible statement. This is a family that lies together.
America has had to endure 16 years of liars in the White House including the current president who LIED to get us in to an occupation for oil not a war for democracy. Isn’t it time for a change? She deserved a good booing and she got it. I think it took class and courage for those attending the dinner to say to the world we are sick and tired of the lies and we will not stand for it anymore. Her support of McCain’s gas tax is a lie on the American public and once again she’s been busted.
So long Clinocchio! Obama 2008 and 2012.
The death of a racism has begun. AMEN!!!

Obama is a much more of a class act than Hillary, and that is the whole point. Obama supporters aren’t running for president and they have been insulted over and over again by the Clinton’s. Many Obama supporters were Clinton supporters and defended them through a lot of BS, and just because we find Barack Obama more suitable to be president than her they say we’re delusional and easily fooled! Bosnia, N. Ireland, NAFTA, Sir Edmund Hillary, Gas Tax Holiday…add it up! Hillary is a pandering, calculating liar!!
There are more people in the Clinton camp who won’t vote for Barack Obama. Your reasoning never points to what he has said or done, but what his former pastor is presently saying. That he was on a board with someone who was a radical when he was younger in the 60′s, when Obama was a little kid. Clinton has her connections too, and if she somehow gets the nomination, you will see a bunch of BS coming her way, and I think you will want and need the Obama supporters help in defeating John McCain. God help us if McCain becomes president!

You cannot argue or explain to people when all they focus on is the color of skin. Never mind that his background and character and core beliefs are minimal. Please, please think about what America needs and it certainly is not Obama.

Peter 10:11 am – Nice try but I didn’t buy it. Many of those who read your comments probably formed an opinion and went no further. Well, I went to that site and actually READ the entire article. You essentially re-iterated the e-rumor portion of the article that has been circulating. You failed to disclose that the body of article pretty much debunks this inuendo and speculative garbage.

Shrinking Violet? Nawww. Venus Fly Trap, maybe!
Governor Easy deserves the boos — should have known better than to back her!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

For shame to all of us. Let’s not lose sight of the goal- to end the destructive policies that have desecrated our country and created fiascos abroad. The differences in positions between Barack and Hillary are not worth the vitriol in the face of what could be a difficult challenge from McSame. Let’s not do his work for him. Come on people. Let’s come together, support your candidate and save our country- not tear down each other.

Time for a change. The days of dirty tricks is over. This does not bode very well for Hillary’s last chance…superdelegates when she is booed and heckled at a Democratic Party Dinner. I for one won’t miss her.
Obama in ’08
James

No shrinking violet is an understatement. This woman has demonstrated a ruthless urge to power and a willingness to morph herself into any form to get the office. When, naturally, she will revert to her arrogant, smug, lockhaw smirky stonewalling dishonesty. Compared by one writer to a vampire, the worst form of quid pro quo. Whatever she wins is stolen and not for the greater good. If she steals the nomination I will write Obama’s name in November.

I am not a Democrat or a Republican, I am an American. I am still undecided as to who I will be voting for. CLinton has lied to many times for me to trust her. McCain wants to keep things as they are, He isn’t for America, he is for the Corporations and how much money they can earn for him. Obama has some good ideas, but without the backing of the House AND Senate he won’t see those ideas into reality. Why can’t we get a candidate that doesn’t pit the 2 parties against each other, A candidate that is for America? Like every other election year it will come down to voting for the candidate that will do the LEAST damage to this country. Maybe next election year we can find an American that is for America.

David,
I am a 48 yo white woman and I agree with Ms. Obama. We are a mean country and that’s why Obama would be good for the country because they aren’t living in a bubble and living in denial. America is not perfect and they want to change that. We are bitter after the Clinton and Bushes administrations that slowly took brought our country down. Clinton didn’t do anything for the country It was the administration set before that ran out country he just happen to be in at a time it was running.

“If she steals the nomination I will write Obama’s name in November.”
Ditto that. If she steals it a large percentage of the electorate will vote on principal. If you can’t elect a nominee based on the party rules, then the system is broken. She didn’t think all 50 states mattered early in her campaign and she still doesn’t think they do.

Obama says it’s time for change, well the only change I see will be made is that a black person will be in the white house instead of a white person. He has not defined change yet. People wake up let change be about what the county needs not what color is in the house. If you go to a black store there prices is higher than any othe stores.
Don’t be fooled by color, loke around you and see who hurts you the most in your areas. Let’s be for real, come out of the dark. Obama should go on O’reily to show the people how he can stand toe to toe with the man. Hillary
did and Mr. O’Reily just knew he was going to break her and to his surprise he couldn’t after a second try. The women don back down and that’s the kind of leader we need.

I live in NJ and I am an Obama supporter. What I said was that Hillary’s electability argument won’t work. You obviously haven’t read all of my posts. I despise the Clintons and have had enough of Bush. I am a Republican for change – and that would be Obama.

Doreen, how exactly has Obama been rude.

Clinto wouldn’t give a speech in front of Obama supporters, THINKING…?!?
You mean democrats in NC. That’s where they were.
Whadya think PA was and he was never jeered because he’s a gentleman.

I don’t care who votes for who if people are disgusted they boo!! Anyway Hannity is full of hate for Obama and it shows. He is sure stuck on stupid!! Real journalist don’t act like that. He keeps repeating the same thing over and over again like a broken record! I am surprised that people would listen to such garbage. Some folks on Fox are softer towards Hillary now when they know they don’t like her. They are playing mind games with people so that they can vote for her and then when she becomes the democratic nominee really turn on her in the general elections and defeat her so they think. Go figure!! I don’t get why peple are soo easily brain washed and wait for people like Hannity or Oreilly to think for them. Look at the real issues in America and choose the right person. By the way experience is not everything. Look at America now, is Bush not experienced?? Look at the mess he made!! I am not American but I know people like Obama can change this country and take it to new heights. Think!!

John: You say she didn’t know about Bill and Monica. Did she know about Paula Jones, Kathleen Wiley or Juanita Broderick? I guess she’s not the smartest woman in the world after all. But then again, she did fail the DC Bar. What Bill did with that intern would be considered sexual harassment at any corporation in America.

I keep hearing of experience can someone define this for me. None of these candidates have ever been president so they dont have the experience. My dad was in the military over 20 years so i was around it all my life. Can i now claim 20 years of military experience since i was there and around it?

Lisa: LOL – How could I forget Jennifer Flowers. Hillary is the worst possible role model for women everywhere. She allowed herself to be publicly humiliated. The fact that she is where she is because of her husband should speak volumes to woman across this country who have made great strides on their own merit. Who was Hillary’s opponent in her last Senate race? A 70 year old former mayor of Yonkers. Big win!

It’s amazing! the amount of hate in this contry is overwhelming. Unfortunately, we don’t even recognize our own ability to discriminate. Some of you are blatantly hateful toward people who are not like you and disrespectful to people who do not profess what you believe in. America has a long way to go.
Change is imminent. Whether we like it or not it is going to happen. Experience does not count for anything because nobody in the democratic race has any experience. Just being in the White House does not confer experience. George Bush was in the White House while his father had the most experience in the White House. He has been dubbed the worse president of the United States. Let us all chill. God has a plan for the United States but the United States are just too involved in themselves to even think about the will of God. They use God to get their way, then they do eveything that is evil. That is how the evil spirit works. After all, didn’t the people of God voted for George Bush? Hasn’t he spread hope and good will to all human being? Oh! I’m sorry. That will be McCain because he said we will never again go to the middle East for oil – never killing our 18 YO children for oil while mothers are here praying for their children to comeback home safely. How about the Iraqi people? Who will held responsible for their death because Americans are so power – and oil – hungry? Weren’t our troops defending our freedom there? Al Qaeda, weapons of mass destructions? Oh! No! McCain said it: “It was for oil”. May God have pity on us all!

NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUE:
ELECTABILITY IN NOVEMBER.
WHO’S ELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTIONS???
DO THE MATH…..
YOU NEED 270 ELECTORAL VOTES TO WIN
THE WHITE HOUSE………

All you Obama supporter, your boy may get the nomination, but he will never be President! Hillary has more supporters that rather vote for McCain than vote for Obama. The worse of two evils Obama or McCain. OBAMA!

How rude and disrespectful to “boo” a Democrat governor just because he’s supporting Clinton and then to chant Obama’s name while Hillary is speaking, especially while she’s saying that she will support him if he’s the nominee. The cult of Obama talks about unity and healing and working together with all kinds of people but are actually quite divisive and combative. They act like spoiled little brats who start to scream if they think their candy might get taken away.

And Hillary reared her ugly head….
That is what the stories will read in centuries to when our children’s children will read if Hillary gets nominated.
The rest of the story???……
And then the country was devastated and ruined because of her lies and deceitfulness. The American public had buyer’s remorse before the last one became extinct.
Don’t vote for a president worse than the one we have now, namely Hillary.

Putting Bill Richardson on the ticket with Obama will not get the Latino support. They consider Bill a traitor

Oh and Marie, McCain wants to keep us in a senseless war with no end in sight. How many thousands more will die because of the republicans.

Let’s face it. It is all about race and most blacks back Obama only because he is black and they are still trying to get revenge for something this generation of whites had nothing to do with … slavery. I’ve seen the Associated Press quote black Americans as saying Barrack is getting votes only because of his race yet when Geraldine Ferraro say it, OMG! The country has a kanipchen fit.
Go home Barrack. Hillary has the experience to turn this country around.

Pam:
You are right. Killing is wrong except in self-defense. I don’t want to be a party ro any of it. I guess I really can’t vote at all in good conscience.

what’s funny is how a lot of Hillary supporters on this post are condemning the people at the dinner for booing Hillary, but it’s you same people who bad mouth on this post. What’s worse, hiding behind your keyboard, or actively showing your discontent for one and support for the other, without the conspiracy of plants or paid seat-fillers. what’s really sad is that, as much as I can’t stand Hillary and her tactics, the thought of arguably another 4 years of Bush policies is worse. I truly hope by November, we can all realize what is truly at stake in this election. I’d like to also touch base on Wright. He truly showed himself to be quite a weirdo this past weekend, but I challenge any of you to recall what your pastor, priest, rabbi, etc. said last Sunday. How about last month? How about 5 years ago when the last of these controversial statements was said. I don’t condone what he said, but really who of you are really a bunch of robots who heed all the words of your church? Who agrees with everything they hear? Who out there doesn’t have the ability to think for themselves. Anyone who doesn’t take a man for his word does not truly believe in themselves. I trust Obama is a man of his word and appreciate his conviction in not stooping to a lower level as Clinton has chosen

One last thing…I think a sign of intelligence is when a poster reseraches from a credible source information before posting it. That is all.
Still undecided and saddened by all the disrespect and hate we have in this world for each other.

The vast majority of posts on this and other news sites makes depressing reading. Am I to take seriously the suggestion in many recent polls that there are Obama supporters and Clinton supporters who so detest the other Democratic Party contender (I’m ignoring the obvious RNC poseurs here and elsewhere whose posts are aimed at stirring up friction)that they would prefer to either support McKain or sit out the Presidential election rather than vote for the eventual nominee – if he or she isn’t YOUR candidate?
If this is so, then the USA definitely deserves a 3rd Bush term! And why stop there, let’s have a 4th Bush term while we are it! Let’s get our sons and daughters ready for another mindless war (you might want to chat with your local school board to include Parsi in the school’s foreign language department – but that’s just a thought). Let’s put off universal health care for another two presidential terms, let’s continue exporting jobs, let’s continue the decline in educational competitiveness… Let’s all buy shares in oil companies, defence contactors, HMOs…
What a shallow, self-serving attitude! Because of disagreements that primarily concern gender fears or racial fears, a sizeable proportion of our citizenry is prepared to put aside issues that we claim to hold dear – or just sit it out! What cowardice!
Whoever it was that said that a nation deserves the leadership it gets, was right. All the self-centred folks who wish to disguise their misogyny or racism (or however they they may prefer to dress it up – I really do not care) will deserve McKain/Bush… It is just a pity that the rest of us will be taken along too.

I find it amazing that we as american people can stand so divided when we should be on the same team. I have read of the democrats who say if no HC then go Mcain…come on are you serious? The long drawn out process of this whole thing is doing just what the other party hoped it would do. Separate and make enemies amongst us. Lets remember this please. No matter who becomes the nominee it is very important that we do not let this GWB nonsense continue.Let us not let anger and the “battle royale” between the two very powerful dems we have running for US separate US. No matter who is the nominee if you change parties based on anger,race,gender or who someones friends are, then remember you will have to live with that for the next four years.An angry vote could hurt not only your pocket but the financial outcome of alot of people.Those who dont have the money to have internet,newspaper,or telephone because gas is so high they cant afford it. So just remember when you do vote, your vote may also be the vote of the fellow american who couldnt.

Never Obama? ” I would rather vote Mccain instead of Obama.” How many of you have gone to college?

Hillary doesn’t even understand why the gas tax vacation is just a shell game (no pun intended). Why would we want a president who doesn’t understand that this idea creates even more problems for the country?

Clinton supporters are living in delusion.
The Clintons have criminal connections that are being brought out more and more and her supporters are living in denial.

The court case that is pending in Paul vs. Clinton
What happens when they find her guilty? Will she run her presidency from a jail cell? There too much documentation that makes her guilty. Postponing the case until after the elections won’t change her guilt.
If the Clintons were on the up an up why would they do business with a 4 time convicted felon in the first place.
Oh well, they have many other times and the Clinton supporters are turning the other cheek. Just as long as Clintons can fill their pockets, why should we care whose president, right?
Obama for pres

They weren’t booing Hillary they ere booing thier Gov. Stop spinning
Clinton also mentioned Gov. Mike Easley, who has endorsed her candidacy, and she was momentarily rendered speechless while the crowd booed him.

bob:
real intelligent poster, you are!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

What kind of people would be booing their own Governor at a dinner. didn;t they ever learn any manners. Oh yeah Obama is bound to win this state if this is the type of people that live there. You can’t pay the bills with fairy tales and thats what Obama keeps spinning. Talks of Change but never actually telling you How it will Change and how it will be paid for. Maybe his criminal associates in Chicago or his middle east terrorist cousins can find the money.

They weren’t booing Clinton the were booing the NC governor, see the article say the governor are you now not going to believe you lying eyes? What is up with this?
and boos for the North Carolina governor,

I don’t think there is much difference between Hillary and John McCain. If Hillary is elected as the democratic nominee them I will not vote for anyone. It will not make any difference.
Infact, if Ralph Nader stands for election I will vote for him instead.
I am sick and disgusted with Hillary’s method of spiteful attacks through out this election process.

This is the politics of intimidation. This must have been some of those Republican crossover voters. Democrats would never act in such a rude, uncompassionate manner. The Democratic party is known as the party of compassion. If Obama had true character, he would tell his supporters that he never wanted to hear such rudeness towards a fellow democrat. However, he has yet to show true class. If he had class and character, he would have tried to bring change to his severely dysfunctional church and pastor. He did his fellow AA’s no service by remaining silent in the face of destructive, hopeless talk that would not help the community rise,but just spiral downward. My guess is he just zoned off in church because he was only there for appearances to gain voters. Either that or he thinks racist hate speech is acceptable. He never denounced the pastor until he was after a bigger political prize.

What is wrong with Obama supporters?!?! The level of immaturity and rudeness is unbelievable.

Eight Belles was put out of her misery today after breaking her ankles. Who is Eight Belles? She is the filly in todays derby race Hillary put her bets on because she identified with eight belles. Well, I am wondering if she will continue to identify with Eight belles after today?

Hillary supporters…get a grip. Obama will crush McCain. Have you seen him speak lately? Good lord, it’s almost like he’s ready to keel over any day. As a woman, I commend Hill’s toughness, but that doesn’t necessarily make a great leader. Obama has actually been an elected official longer than Hillary. Obama will put the best people around him and will make a terrific leader. Are you guys really happy with the way are gov’t is being influenced and run? I see Hillary as a republican at this point and will keep the same ole political bull going on in the whitehouse. She needs to answer to this fraud case first before she thinks about being a nominee. Her lies about Bosnia, the closing of the plant in Indiana, her failed healthcare, the whitewater case that was never resolved. In all those years, what has Hill ever really accomplished? What about the relationship they have with Rev. Wright. The only thing Hillary has going for her is her capacity to fool the most undereducated and uninformed people of this country into thinking she’s this perfect, honest princess. All the scandals, deceits and lies that you are aware of and you still want to vote for her? You guys are complete and utterly stupid hypocrites.

I feel sorry for a lot of you. I have no debt, and work a modest job. I’ve seen the rational of the $140 example, but think about it. Is letting gas continue to sky rocket after the gax tax holiday really worth $140?
Plus the two gas tax cuts Obama voted for are permanent cuts, these are just a “few” days in the summer.
This country is on the verge of making a detrimental mistake I believe. Lord help those of you whose eyes are closed.
CLINTON versus PAUL <—–type in search bar.

Isn’t if odd how you never hear about Clinton supporters booing or heckling Obama, but Obama supporters do it to Hillary ALL THE TIME. I’m telling you, you can judge a candidate by the company they keep — Reverand Wright, rude supporters. Doesn’t really make me want to vote for him if he’s the nominee.
And did Obama tell them to stop booing? Of course not. But if Hillary supporters had done the same, it would have been front page news the next day that Hillary didn’t “speak out against it.”
Oh, well, let the Dem leadership put Obama in there. Get ready for President McCain.

Real Deal <—–misinformed. I guess being a public servant for 20 years is disqualifying.
Experience….what has Hillary accomplished in her years as a Senator? Didn't she do the same thing as Obama as far as personal lives before any type of office? My bad…no she didn't. She practised law…He practised Constitutional Law. That being said, who knows more about your rights? Who will be more capable of fighting for you? Oh its that guy that fought for all those "have nots", back in Illinois.
Hillary vs Paul<——-plug it into your web browser

Brian. Constantly bringing up Wright IS playing the race card. Use some logic! Just because Bill had flings with women, doesn’t mean she did or that she should break off with him, does it? That’s also guilt by association, but it’s silly. Hillary herself brings it up every chance she gets. Nobody needs any conspiracy theories to see that.
Every primary since before Texas was tainted by Republicans voting in the Democratic primaries voting for who they think will be easiest to beat or for Hillary because they want the Democrats to keep fighting. The primary vote counts are now meaningless.

Brian has issues and hasn’t come to grips with his disdain for Black people even after 43 years. Careful, your loathing srlf-hatred might get the best of you after May 6.

It is amazing that the demographics of white voters that are opposed to Obama are those that are relatively uneducated. This tells you that there inclinations are primarily primordial and emotional rather than fact based abd objective. Are non-college educated people the ones to decide on what is best for the American people. God help us all!!!!!!!!

Hillary has got my vote…I believe she has the experience and the know how to get our economy back on track.I have always voted my pocketbook and Hillary has the best plan for getting us out of the recession we are in. Obama is not that bad…I just do not think he is ready. McCain is a no go in my opinion, he is hot headed and vindictive is his political approach…just what we don’t need.
Posted by: overseasCathy
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Cathy, you say,
“Hillary has got my vote…I believe she has the experience and the know how to get our economy back on track.I have always voted my pocketbook and Hillary has the best plan for getting us out of the recession we are in.”
Sorry to bust your bubble. Hillary has proven she is not capable for leading, managing or running anything! She has run a shoddy and chaotic campaign (infighting, 3 big shakeups, race cards, gendercards, etc. etc.). She has also proven she is incapable of managing her donors’ contributions and donations. She owes middle-class business people approximately $8 Million, dating back to the Iowa Caucuses!!! She owes Penn’s company $10 Million, and owes Penn approx 6 Million. And you think she can do better with our country?? With her financial know-how, we would be totally dependent on China and Saudi Arabia!! And our country would be in total ruins!!

real deal, don’t you mean we don’t need another idiot like the ones that voted for the Iraq war?

could someone please expalin to me why I as an independent should vote for hilaRY????
I see thsi is clearly hilary world here….but then again, the ebate by ABC was a hilary debate too…..please hilary world, tell, list 35 reasons…for the 35 years of experience, and i mean reasons with substance…..why i should vote for Hilary????

The problem with a number of posts here is that folks are calling out sides — which stands to only perpetuate divisiveness.
“these supporters always do X and Y.” People group the actions of a small faction and promote them as actions of all folks behind the particular candidate. I support one candidate in this primary, but categorizing and labeling with generalization is wrong.
Folks, its hate speech – plain and simple. Its easy to see how passions can blind us, but keeping the larger integrity intact is something we should all (and always) consider.

DCVoter,
Thanks a lot for your comments.
Excellent.

Well, listening to media has gotten us where we are now. Who do you think the media wants you to vote for, Hillary, of course. If you haven’t realized it yet, the Democratic primary is over, Obama is the Democratic canidate, and the media, wants you to believe she has a fighting chance. Think! Use that god given brain of yours, don’t support what they want. Because if you want what they want, you are going to be poorer, war will continue, and the Clinton influence peddling window will be open, once again, selling your future to the corporations one bill at a time, one free trade agreement every six months.

I am just tired of reading posts that ask why Barack Obama stayed at Trinity for nearly 20 years. Could he have remained at Trinity for the same reason Hillary remains with Bill? Could it just be that there is something to be gained by staying? It’s so one sided that Hillary and the media can ask over and over again why Obama stayed at Trinity. Yet, Obama and the media do not ask why Hillary stays with Bill. Another double standard.

People, settle down. This is an election that will decide what America will look like in 5, 10, 25 years. Shouldn’t the tenor of your post be about the issues faces our nation and not not the personal minutia that the cable news channels and broadcast media tell us are important?

FYI–Obama is not supported by the far left. Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney are supported by the far left. As Ron Paul is supported by the principled Libertarians.
The far left and the libertarian right both agree that the wars in Iraq is illegal and is dragging the country down, and should be ended immediately. Obama won’t do that.
Also, most observers on the far left recognize that US history is one of genocide of the Indians, slavery and Jim Crow of blacks, and numerous wars (Mexican, Spanish American, WWI, WWII, Vietnam) all used contrived provocations
(FDR knew the Japanese were attacking Pearl Harbor), not to mention Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam), non existent babies in incubators (Gulf War I) and phony WMD story (Gulf War II) not to mention 911.
By distancing himself from Wright, he is allowing the public to continue to wallow in multigenerational denial, in the interests of “unity”. So the repression of historical truth continues and the country continues to dig itself deeper into moral and economic debt.

It was one of Hilary’s best speech. Intelligent, cool,decent, respectful of Obama, omprehenisive, straight from the heart and very presidential in all angles. She very professional. If they did, it just shows the extent of desperation they have, which also shows in every caucus. Dirty, intimidating and grandiose. We are a misogynist society, Barack is a man, he already has a point being a man. He was on an attacking mode during the speech. Even Fox News immediately applauded him, and not a word on Hilary after the speech. silence about her.. The voters will speak and Hilary will come up to the challenge.