By Lee Speigel

May 3, 2008 2:18pm

Clinton Sharpens Attacks; Drives a New Message

ABC News’ Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., sharpened her attacks on her opponent three days before the critical primaries on Tuesday. Clinton offered a new message: "Headlines and Trend Lines" -– a slogan she has used before, but really hammered on Saturday in Wake Forrest, N.C.

In her sharpest remarks in days, Clinton said she is better on the housing crisis, health care and on the gas problem than Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

Clinton addressed the gas tax issue saying, “There’s a big disagreement in this campaign. You’ll see it in the headlines about where Sen. Obama and I stand on taking on the immediate crisis we confront.

“You’ve probably heard the debate about the gas tax, because my opponent is running ads and holding press conferences attacking my plan to try to give you some kind of break this summer.” Clinton explained her plan and why it was better, hitting on the gas tax holiday and other solutions she has proposed.

Clinton also pointed out the difference between her policy on housing versus Obama’s. “When I said we needed to take action to freeze foreclosures to protect people from losing their homes my opponent disagreed.”

Clinton then turned to her health care jab, one she has pointed out from state to state. “My opponent’s plan would leave out 15 million people. That’s not really going to work. Because what that means is the uninsured will still go to the emergency room.”

Clinton closed, saying, “I think if you are a leader, you have got to look at both the headlines and the trend lines. … This issue that we are facing today over gas prices, and the debate that my opponent and I are having over it, is really part of a larger difference between us. It’s something I hope you will think about when you go to vote -– either voting early today or voting next Tuesday.”

User Comments

It is worth noting that the primary in NC and IN and ultimately the election hinge on a bet by two of the candidates that low information voters will believe their preposterous assertions that a “gas tax holiday” will help them pay their fuel bills this summer.
Anyone with a high school level education in economics will tell you a gas tax holiday will actually have the effect of raising gasoline prices. The consumer will simply never see a dime and the oil companies will make even higher profits. Not to mention the fact that it might put as many as 300.000 people out of work when the country is reeling from job losses or drive our debt even higher.
It is simply impossible to even suggest that such a measure could be introduced much less pass through congress before the end of the summer given nobody but McCain and Clinton support it in congress.
We are witnessing an epic and historic clash of old and new politics, one rooted in pander and deception of the past and one with the promise of truth and transparency.

Posted by: Deward Bowles | May 3, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

The gas tax is nothing but a game,Who does she think she is kidding.The oil companies will up the price to make us pay the difference they won’t pay she knows this .This makes her look good like she is trying to help.WRONG.I LIKE HOW SHE IS DOING ALL THESE THING without Congress ,wow SHE IS GOOD.She will follow throught with about 24% if that people….If that>>>>>L>

Posted by: h | May 3, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Can I just say that it’s nice to see the debate go back to real issues instead of the nonsense on Rev. Wright and the flag pin?

Posted by: jmengate | May 3, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Go Girl!
Even if Hillary endoses Obama , her supprters won’t follow and won’t vote for him in November!

Posted by: Rose, NC | May 3, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

The only people who will benefit from the Gas Holiday, will be the oil companies.

Posted by: Chris | May 3, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Hillary you are totally a polarizing figure. Super Delegates are not going to jeopardize the future of the Party. Get it really!

Posted by: Peace | May 3, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

She’s better talking about the gas tax. If she was serious she would be sponsoring a bill.
She won’t though because it would fail and she would then be seen as ineffective. Its so much easier to just talk about what you could do and not really mean it,like people from Washington like to do.

Posted by: Richard | May 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Obama is out of touch with normal people. We need every penny from overpaid taxes. Go for Hillary!

Posted by: Zack | May 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Well you should check out Obama’s “Oregon Plan” because it includes the “great lakes” in the plan. That’s Obama for you, if he can’t copy or plagiarize Hillary, he’ll have to call it pandering because Evilrod didn’t think of it first.

Posted by: rs | May 3, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Obama is not only a polorized person, but also a divisive force among democratic party.

Posted by: Zack | May 3, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Rose NC – i’ll quote you “Even if Hillary endoses Obama , her supprters won’t follow and won’t vote for him in November!”
What does this say about Hillary as a leader leading people if she can’t even lead her own supporters to unite? Hmmm. You didn’t just pay her a compliment you insulted her.

Posted by: hibbiejibbies | May 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

If Obama said he would tax the air we breathe his supporters would say it’s a good idea. I guess if you can tolerate his bigotry, the rest is a piece of cake.

Posted by: beo | May 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

You’re right. Even if Hillary asks her supporters to support Obama in the fall, many will not. There is a limit on how much I can swallow in the name of party unity.

Posted by: dd | May 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

I used to think that Clinton would be OK, but then I saw her tactics, and realized she is not much different from G.W. Bush. Both would do anything to win and are motivated by self-centered greed. The only difference is Hillary has a few more IQ points.
Yes, I hope Obama survives the storm of lies and exaggerations that she is stirring up. A new negative ad every day. He has been very good about staying on message, maybe too good, and perhaps he should do some more aggressive attacking himself, since that seems to be the only thing that works with the generally ignorant American public. People want a sound byte, not a whole story; they want a headline, not the actual details. Sad country we live in. That’s how Bush got elected, twice, as pathetic as he is. He & the Cheney machine played on people’s fears and lied and exaggerated about their opponent. Nice… here we go again.

Posted by: Dr. John | May 3, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Hillary is the difference between a leader and a follower!! She proposes and Obama disposes!! She is always one step ahead of Obama and the voters are starting to notice that she is the only one who can defeat McCain this fall!! Hillary is on the rise and Obama is fallling things are breaking her way and she will come close in NC and win by 10 in In!! In the end she will have the popular vote and southern superdelegates will vote as a bloc and insist on Hillary because they do not want to run with Obama at the top of the ticket!!
Rise Hillary Rise!!! Getter Done!!!

Posted by: russell | May 3, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

As long as Obama doens’t end up in the Whitehouse I don’t care who wins.

Posted by: Mark | May 3, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

I wonder what has she been doing in the US Senate before these three major issues happened (health care, gas price, housing). Surely, all these have a root cause – money! Our dollar is sinking because of Clinton’s NAFTA idea, Bush’s War on “Occupation”. Oil conglomerate cronism. As long as any candidate advocates & supports these three main causes, He or she should not be our next president because they will bring our Nation down and suffer.

Posted by: mampang | May 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Emily – I actually have to admit that the choice between Obama and Clinton when I was voting was the hardest I ever made. Go Dems!!!

Posted by: jmengate | May 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

I dont understand y is this ‘sharpened her attack’ when she is trying to differntiate between herself n her opponent? In case of Obama the news would have been drawing attention to real issues. As an outsider i find it amazing how the media at large has lost its sense of impartiality.

Posted by: Samm | May 3, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Everyone keep in mind when a comment is made that is especially derogatory toward Clinton or Obama supporters, it is probably a diehard Republican trying to encourage disrespect.
On this article, for Clinton to say her plans are better, without experts’ agreement, it is just bragging without backup. The gas tax plan is just silly, how can 18 cents make a difference, especially when the oil companies can hike it up another 18 cents in retaliation or a whole dollar or as high as they want without breaking any laws. Look at the profits they are getting away with now, while receiving tax subsidies. Clinton’s housing plan has been criticized by experts as extending the housing problem. Anyway, let’s face it, by the time a new president is in, writes up legislation and passes it, most of the people prone to foreclosure will have lost their homes. So she can claim her plan is the best to look good but any plan that waits until next year is too late. Congress should be doing something now. Her health care bill has a big problem. She keeps claiming her plan will be mandatory but affordable. Who will set this price? Who will determine what is affordable? I fear all the millions the health insurance companies have given her campaign will influence things in their favor. Why else would they be banking on her? How could their money not be buying influence? It is just like big oil, etc. bankrolling Bush’s campaign and then reaping the benefits.
Obama is the only candidate who isn’t taking corporate money, so he really can change the way Washington is controlled by the corporate interests now.

Posted by: Lydia | May 3, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Anybody support the agressive war and become our next president will SURELY bankrupt our nation.

Posted by: mampang | May 3, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

To all of you griping about Obama’s hard time with the press…
Obama has gotten off easier than any other candidate thus far as far as the press is concerned. The love fest from MSNBC and CNN only got toned down when the Wright issue came up AGAIN. I have never seen a candidate get such a free ride and for so long as Obama has. Sorry if he has to be vetted by the press this late in the game, but the other candidates have already done their time, while the press was kissing Obama’s behind for months.

Posted by: nhkat | May 3, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Hillary gives people $28 for the entire summer of driving.
Obama’s plan calls for $1000 permanent tax cut per family.
All ecomonists disagree with Hillary, so she uses George W. Bush line “Are you with me or against me?”
America can’t afford another arrogant leader (like Bush) who refused to listen to the experts.

Posted by: Dan | May 3, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

there is nothing wrong with her gas tax plan.. It is short term as she says.. and she has plans for long term also..
i don’t see any of these economits crying fowl when the govt bailed Bears Stern… So why can’t the same govt bail the people when things are going bad.

Posted by: hms | May 3, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Well if Clinton’s adviser Mickey Kantor is right about Indiana being under educated, then they will buy in to Hillary’s Gas Tax Holiday, and end up taking a Holiday from Reality! I’m hoping no matter what the level of education is in Indiana, they at least remember Hillary is a Clinton, and as such will say or do any thing to get elected. When she ran for Senator for NYS she promised 1 million new jobs for Upstate. When that didn’t happen, she later said her promise was based on Al Gore getting elect for President. Funny thing is she never said there was any conditions when she was running for President. Much like now she was promising every thing to every one! I for one would prefer a Hillary Clinton Holiday!

Posted by: IndieVisible | May 3, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Just when is Sen. Clinton going to be called out for her “obliterate Iran” statement?
Isn’t this far more dangerous language than what anyone else(including Obama’s former minister) has said thus far?
If any of the other candidates made such a statement, thus giving this country no options when dealing with such a situation, what would be the reaction?
I just don’t understand how some statements weigh more than others. If we are truly looking at everything attributed to these individuals to make a judgment, shouldn’t this one have some heft?
I see such a statement as reason to disqualify Clinton if this is really being done in a fair manner.

Posted by: Steve T | May 3, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

barack obama has no credibility and he lacks judgement. He is outspending Hillary 3-1 and he still cant seal the deal. Why is he still in the race? Hillary keeps getting stronger and better each day while mr obama looks like he’s prefer to be some place else. Go Hillary! You will!!

Posted by: andrea | May 3, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Sad thing is people will fall for it vote for her and then complain that it didn’t happen or want to know why the bridge they drove across collapsed.
Also, with rush’s operation chaos she will fool her voters in believing that she is really winning. To except the votes of people that want you so they can beat because of PRIDE is seriously DELUSIONAL.
Those negative comments about Obama are from republicans who are out to cause fighting with in the dem party. Again folks falling for the republican political operation divide and conquer.
Keep it up dems and McSame or Mcforgot (what I just said) will be POTUS.and not only will we be in Iraq for 100 yrs., we’ll be back in Vietnam because he wants to finish that one also.

Posted by: Steve | May 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

The biggest deception is that Obama is some new kind of politics! He is no different than the rest…other than he has less experience. What’s more concerning is his flip-flopping on issues & people. He earnestly told us that he would no sooner disown Rev. Wright, than he would disown his own white grandmother (you remember her, she’s the “typical white woman” according to Obama). Well, look out Grandma & look out American people…Obama did exactly that…for political advantage. He will do or say anything to get elected…

Posted by: ssmolly | May 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

I almost forgot about how some tried to make something out of Obama not wearing a flag pin.
Even when the other candidates don’t wear one, somehow it was Obama who was less patriotic.
The fact I forgot about this one goes to show how many ridiculous “issues” have been raised during this campaign.
Wake up America. Clinton and McCain are the status quo. This country needs an enema!!

Posted by: Steve T | May 3, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Hillary is a good politician. She saids what she KNOWS people whom shes pandering to wants to hear.
Do you all realize since Hillary’s been Senator of NY, the state has lost 30,000 jobs?
Her mandated healthcare proposal would penalize those that don’t purchase mandatory healthcare.
Clinton recommended Janet Reno to Pres. Clintons cabinet. Reno order the attack at Waco that killed 16 women and children.
Clinton is now talking about nuking Iran.
Clintons proposal to suspend the gas tax would only benefit the gas companies.
Voting for Clinton simply because she’s a woman is a poor excuse. Shes NOT qualified although shes been around for a long time.

Posted by: Oh Please | May 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

I think we should have a vision test for the voters, the Obama supporters must be legally blind for not seeing how fake he is.
GO HILLARY

Posted by: peter | May 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Sure, she has plans. The problem is, her plans are stupid. The “gas tax holiday” is a political stunt that will have NO impact on out of control gas prices. It’s just to woo voters who are seduced by sound bites and don’t understand the issues. Her grand plans count for nothing if they can’t get through the house and senate, right? Just like her failure in the 1990s with healthcare reform, she will be hobbled by her inability to form coalitions. Pandering to voters to get elected, by offering “plans” that sound good but can’t possibly work, is dishonest, and something Hillary is very good at. Obama’s policy positions are based on realistic, feasible alternatives that can appeal to voters and lawmakers across the spectrum, that will move us forward instead of stall us for 4 more years of endless bickering. Think about that before you cast your vote. She will never be able to deliver on her promises… look at all her past promises, and you’ll see all her past failures.

Posted by: stsw531 | May 3, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Does anyone care about the FACTS; or has everyone just decided on their candidate and begun to MAKE UP ‘facts’ to support their decision?
For those of you saying that a gas tax holiday will do no good, because the oil companies will just raise the price: OIL COMPANIES DO NOT SET THE PRICE OF GAS. The cost of gas is determined by oil futures traders who shout prices at each other in the pits of the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Posted by: RedTT | May 3, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

i wonder if the republicans want obama to win so they can easily beat him in the presidential election. most of the contributions that obama has been getting probably come from the republicans. that’s why kerry got to be nominated in 2004 instead of dean since kerry could easily be defeated.

Posted by: salvador payumo | May 3, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

At least Hillary stands up and points out the DIFFERENCES in POLICY issues, unlike Obama who prefers stealing votes, denying votes, sending doctored videotapes around to trash his opponents and encourages booing of all democratic supporters of Hillary – and Hillary – at a democratic dinner. Obama is certainly the politics of dirt and lies and change for the much, much worse. Look out Obamanations, there’s a bus heading your way!

Posted by: frisco girl | May 3, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

FINALLY, I AGREE WITH SOMETHING REV. WRIGHT SAID: “Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls,” Wright told the Press Club. “Preachers say what they say because they’re pastors. . . . I do what pastors do. [Obama] does what politicians do.” A few days earlier, in an interview with PBS’s Bill Moyers, Wright said Obama, in his Philadelphia speech attempting to calm the controversy created by Wright’s sermons, had said “what he has to say as a politician.”

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Hey RedTT. I suppose the oil futures traders have nothing to do with the oil companies?
Who do you think puts out the information about the prospective oil markets? The OIL COMPANIES!!!
Of course, we will probably be made to believe that the market prices just happen independently from how fast the oil is pumped, transported, refined and distributed. That has nothing to do with how the prices are determined and set by the OIL COMPANIES!!!
You’re right. Some traders at the Mercantile just decide prices independently all of those factors.

Posted by: Steve T | May 3, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Why isnt anyone asking McCaine abou the Keating Five ? Why isnt anyone asking Clinton about her Nafta deals. Why does it feel like someone said something when Obama was two years old and now he is responsible for it.If Hillary gets the nonination based on her tatics I dont see how anyone will vote for her and the Iraq will never end……

Posted by: james | May 3, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

I am really weary of hearing Obama supporters accuse anyone NOT supporting him as being a racist. When asked what he has accomplished in his career, very few can even come up with an answer at all, or if they do, “he was a community organizer.” Big deal! You accuse anyone who doesn’t believe all of his empty rhetoric as wanting to vote for a liar or vote for an “old man”, but at least we know Clinton and McCain actually have records of accomplishments and don’t run and hide when the going gets tough. Sounds like many Obama supporters are the ones with the bias problem and lack of education, common sense and common manners that is. By the way, I think Senator just might have already told a lie or two himself for those who are willing to admit it!

Posted by: dwc | May 3, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

WHAT A SAD SPECTACLE. For weeks now, Obama supporters, political pundits, talk show hosts, and even “The View” panel members have been defending Rev. Wright; defending the statements of Rev. Wright; saying that they were taken out of context; even saying that they were true; all in order to defend their candidate, Barack Obama. And now, with one fell swoop, Obama himself has taken the rug out from underneath all of these supporters and de-legitimized their arguments by saying that he himself, is “outraged” by the statements of Rev. Wright, and that he no longer wishes to have any relationship with him. Interestingly, the things said by Rev. Wright in his recent public appearances and interviews were pretty much what we all know he has said before. The only thing materially different was when Rev. Wright twice stated that Obama says what he has to say, because he is a politician. So, what is the lesson of this sad spectacle? Three things. Firstly, it is that Rev. Wright can say anything he wants about “white people” and America, no matter how disgusting or untrue, but if he dares “diss” Obama personally, then Obama is finally “OUTRAGED.” Secondly, it has shown the extent to which some Obama supporters and apologists will go to justify and rationalize any action on the part of Obama or one of his advisers, even to the extent of sanctioning racist and anti-American hate speech, in order to defend Obama and promote his campaign. Finally, it has shown once again that Obama will do anything, and jettison anyone, in his quest for power and the Presidency. The “denunciation” of Wright by Obama is self-serving damage control, and nothing more. The actions by some of his supporters in trying to defend the indefensible, represent a shameful combination of political expediency, lack of objectivity, and hypocrisy.

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

what no report on the Jefferson Jackson dinner in NC?
what no report on what Hillary’s advisor said about indiana voters?
what no report on obama leading in Guam?
what no report on new gallup poll obama up by 10 in NC and tied in Indiana-even after the smear campaign?
what no story on Clinton interview with O’reilly?
What you are having George run the town hall meeting- even after the debate facilitation debacle?
Oh my ABC- I remember when you guys use to report the news

Posted by: discernment | May 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

The gas tax holiday will save $1.84 per 10 GALLONS of gas.
10 gallons = $36.00
- fed gas tax = 1.84
Price paid = 34.16
Well, if the price per gallon doesn’t increase during the 14 weeks. Then, add in the increased price and the gas tax. Sounds like people will be worse off in September.

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Hillary cares about people-actual people, where Obama only cares about being popular and winning. Hillary has plans layed out and Obama just stands there and stutters and stammers and critisizes her. You can bet I’ll be there Tuesday voting for Hillary.

Posted by: Jackie,nc | May 3, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

BLACKS AND UTRA LIBERALS SUPPORT
OBAMA.
WHITES AND MAINSTREET SUPPORT
HILLARY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY CUT IN HALF.
IN DENVER THE MAJORITY OF WHITES
WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.
THEY CAN GO FOR McCAIN WITH NO PLOBLEM.
IT HAPPENS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ALWAYS DEMOCRATS NOMINATE A LOSER.
ARE THEY EVER LEARN?????????????

Posted by: NIcholas | May 3, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

With all due respect the comment on Hillary caring about people and Obama wanting to just win, in my humble opinion seems like a complete juxtaposition. Just my opinion… Especially after the gas debacle in which not one economist is supporting it- not one. Or the material in the commercials?? Again just my opinion..

Posted by: discernment | May 3, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

The problem for the Democrats pushing for Obama is that if someone at the Rezko trial decides to “sing” about Obama’s part in the Chicago corruption and he is already nominated, they have no place to go and the Republicans will be in the White House for the next eight years. Carl Rove already has the information, just waiting for the Obama nomination before he is on every talk show explaining how they and not the Democratic leaders knew all about it and he was just waiting for the Democrats to practice political suicide again.

Posted by: Marta | May 3, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

On the Gas Tax holiday – How will people be out of work ? The oil companys will have to pay that fed tax in stead of the people for 3 months! So the work & workers won’t be affected ! Well, duh ! BTW – you’ll appreciate the savings when you add it all up from 2 cars, the lawn mower,weed eaters, garden tiller, chain saws & log splitters, all use gas. Some people actucally work in the summer to have vegatable gardens & fire wood for winter. Couse if you live in an Apartment & have 1 car… your savings would be less. But it sure will help buying medicine or school supplies in the fall. Or buy you kid a toy for Christmas cause donations will surley be down this year.

Posted by: not fooled | May 3, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Well at this point in time, i seems to agree with political analyst that those younger voters supporting Hillary are either drop out or illiterates.
Cos if you did Eco 101 in your early days in the University or College you will understand what the laws of Demand and Supply states.
Shame on those of you supporting Hillary on this Gas tax break you all deserve to suffer don’t worry, you people need to go for counselling even if you are not educated.

Posted by: Cole | May 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Go Hillary!
She cares about the people who are hurting and yes, every help is welcome, even if the “elitist” smirk down on a $40 cash-back. They don’t understand how important it is for some families to have a little windfall when they fill up and want to take the kids out for a day in summer. Those people who have to travel longer distances (not unusual in the US) will get even more back, thank you. And why not? The oil compaies did not do anything to enhance their product, and should not be the only ones to benefit from the oil price profit.
Hillary is the candidate with a vision, and a dare to “make the changes” needed in healthcare and education and FREEZING foreclosures….!!! Many families will be able to save their homes by it. Hillary really cares. The opponent? He just “opposes” but doesn’t have anything good to offer in it’s place.
America, vote wisely!!!
The SMART LADY with the KNOW-HOW-TO-FIX-IT should be given the reign in these troubled times and we will all sleep well at night.
Thank you!!!

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

In every election I have seen in living in europe or the US. There is canidate trying to appeal to the better nature of us humans. And there is a canidate trying to divide the lower class in order to divide and conquer. That is my experience…

Posted by: discernment | May 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Hello…?? People who are saying the gas tax holiday is a “joke”, you need to look at it as a whole!! She’ll take the tax off of gas that will help the average person just a little bit, but with the way the economy is going, every little bit WILL help. Second, she’ll take the money that was lost from the tax out of the profits of the oil companies!!! It’s a start to helping the tax payer, and it’s a start by showing oil companies that she means business and will do something to help unlike Senator Obama!
Hillary ’08!!

Posted by: Jonath | May 3, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Ferraro was right.

Posted by: FerraroWasRight | May 3, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

I would love to see a woman president, however she needs to be honest….

Posted by: discernment | May 3, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

HILLARY: FIND PEACE IN YOURSELF AND TRY TO KEEP THE LEVEL UP. YOUR OBSESSIVE EGO IS EXHAUSTING ALL HOPES IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOUR CYNICAL NASTINESS CANNOT BRING YOU ANYWHERE POSITIVE. OBAMA IS THE ONLY HOPE TO CHANGE!

Posted by: Jerome | May 3, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Hey jmengate and Emily,
Both Obama and Hillary supporters have stooped to pretty low levels….it’s not just one campaign.
It’s time to put all of this behind and think about issues. There are so many people saying they won’t vote for Obama if he’s the nominee and likewise for Hillary. Is this really what we want to do? The fact remains that we need change in the White House and we won’t get that with John McCain. For a LONG time I, too, said I would not, under any circumstances, vote for Hillary. However, I’ve come to see that we need our Democratic policies pushed through. Although I want Barack Obama to be our next president, I will support Clinton in the fall.

Posted by: amy o | May 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Even if senator Obama loses, which he will not, I will not vote for senator Clinton….
This gas tax holiday is so nonsensical in light of of folks who will lose jobs as a result…
I guess this long campaign has really gotten into the thick of the political silly season….

Posted by: tony | May 3, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Gallup: McCain opens national lead over Obama
The headline on latest national Gallup tracking poll is that Republican John McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama in a hypothetical matchup by six percentage points (48%-42%) and leads Hillary Rodham Clinton by only one (46%-45%).

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Barack Obama is the worst thing to ever happen to the Democratic Party.
If he’s the nominee, my family and I stay home on election day.

Posted by: Dean Alcott | May 3, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Obama only renounced his church when he had to..when everyone in America was saying if you dont you dont stand a chance..too little too late then..just a weak coward if you ask me…she does have ideas and proposals while obama has not substance..only says i stand for “change”

Posted by: ryan | May 3, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Barack Obama came out of nowhere, with hardly any experience, and decided he was a marketable item. Axelrod did a good job of marketing him.
He’s a cypher.
Grow up America.

Posted by: Paula in Oregon | May 3, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

If Obama wins the nomination, too many Hillary supporters like myself dont have faith in him and will be voting Mccain or not voting..i feel Mccain will do a much better job than Obama…i feel obama is a weak man..afraid to do what is right at the right time

Posted by: ryan | May 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Agreed. There is no point in taking these bloggs, or if Obama or Clinton wins the nomination too seriously.
One of the 3 candidates will be named president , and Im sure they do what they have to for the country.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 3, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

All this agressivity in these comments is so ridiculous. I understand now how Bush could be reelected!
It is too bad we are going to live the consequence of this immature approach of politics. Please check the approach to the issues and the new interest in politics Barack Obama brought into politics and VOTE. Otherwise be happy with you have now!

Posted by: Jerome | May 3, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Hillary Clinton in ’08 if BarackO wins nom. then Johon McCain in ’08. Clinton cannot convince me to vote for Obama. I always said if someone came along that I felt very strongly was dangerous, I would speak up. I am not a sheep following the herd–I think for myself. Obama and his followers are dangerous. So is the press that never asks the “elephant in the room” type questions— like how in the world could you not have known until recently what Wright was all about??? They never criticize him, or at least not much, now that is scary. Come on press equal treatment for all— ask the tough questions.

Posted by: annie oakley | May 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Clinton will release an ad in Indiana today where she is bashing Barack Obama over the head with the kitchen sink at 3 AM.

Posted by: FilmMD | May 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

not fooled & Jonath – Hillary or McCain have to convince the majority of the House and Senate to put the windfall profit on the oil companies (pipe dream). But, if it passes both, the price of gas will increase, even before the tax to the oil companies goes into effect. The speculators will increase the price of gas. The tax expires in September, just in time for winter heating costs. Which means higher gas prices at the pump and higher heating costs for the winter. The oil companies are NOT going to absorb the costs, they are going to pass it on to the consumer, YOU.

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Almost all of her solutions are short term bandaids – I’d like to see some substance from all of her “experience”

Posted by: chris | May 3, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

To add to my last post, a windfall profit tax will have to pass the House and Senate with a veto proof majority, because the president definitely will not sign it into law.

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I would rather have someone who has the real ability to lead the country than someone who promises wholesale change .

Posted by: tomdavie | May 3, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

We know of Obama’s problems with the reverend and Rezko, but did you know that Guam, a U.S. Territory, will cast votes for him yet he will not consent to Americans living in the great States of Florida and Michigan to be involved in this nomination process. Something is truly wrong with this guy, and it is not just the reverend and Tony Rezko.

Posted by: benvictor | May 3, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

Hillary’s gas tax suspension scheme is just that–a wily scheme meant to swindle people. She clearly believes that the public and swing voters are just too damned stupid to see how foolish her idea is. Her contempt for the intelligence of American working people is outrageous.
She is a pathological liar who also thinks that you, the American voter, is an idiot.

Posted by: FilmMD | May 3, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Actually, Hillary’s plan will turn out to hurt many. That includes healthcare, housing crisis and gas tax suspension. It really is a short temporary reprieve for a long lasting problem. On the gas tax, after the short summer gas tax suspension, what then? The gas tax will go even higher to offset the loss? Or will states be forced to look elsewhere to make up the difference? Like some states are already charing motorists as much as 2,500.00 for highway traffic violations to pay for road repairs and other essentials. On the housing crisis, not clear on her plans to fix that. On the healtcare issue, All Americans will be required to carry insurance whether they can afford it or not. Like Americans are required to carry car insurance or face jail and/prison time and heavy fines if caught without. If the uninsured is uninsured because they can’t afford healthcare insurance now, they still won’t be able to afford it if it becomes the law that they are required by law to have it and might be required to pay a hefty fine, serve jail or prison time if caught without. Dah! Like Obama said, all Hillary is offering really is nothing more than a shell game.

Posted by: Really_A_Shell_Game | May 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Hey Annie Oakley,
I’m an Obama follower, and I am NOT dangerous. Since you’re a Clinton follower are you a liar and a cheater? I would bet not.

Posted by: amy o | May 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

For your information IndieVisible I am a Physician from florida so I dont consider my self a mentally retarded person, I support Hillary because even when I don`t need the president of the US to be good or bad for me to be just fine, I can see that her intentions for this country are good, and after researching all the candidates before there where just 2 of them I knew that She was the most prepare and the one with the better agenda. To call 50% of the Democratic party ignorant for supporting a candidate that is not yours is whats going to give the election for McCain on the fall.
As for Mr. Obama been a above politics politician then explain to me why did He voted 3 times to give a Gas Tax break in the past?. Why did He give his 2nd speach on Rev Wrights when He did as oppose to when He should have? Does He really thing that we are stupid enough to believe that He never over 20 year heard his pastor talking the way that He talks.
Those experts econimist that are against the Tax relief are the same ones that say that we are not on a recesion because the econimy had something like a 0.5% growth last quarter, those are the same that said nothing when the federal goverment bail out wall street 2 months ago. What is so wrong with try to give people a break, what is so wrong with letting the oil compamies pay for that brake when they are obviously making crazy profits when gas is at record price. To say that giving a break to people is going to make them drive more and at the same time say that the brake is good for nothing by so insignificant it is, I just don`t get it, but then again I support Hillary so I most be Ignorant.

Posted by: Raquel from florida | May 3, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Hillary is the candidate for me! If Obama is this parties nominee,I will be voting for McCain!

Posted by: Heidi | May 3, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

MANY REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDANTS WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS STYLE AND HIS INSPIRATION TO PUT AMERICANS TOGETHER INTO REALITY OF POLITICS AND PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE OLD HOPELESS APPROACH. IT IS BELONGING TO EACH OF US TO SOLVE PROBLEMS ON EVERYDAY BASIS! IT WILL NOT COME FROM A WASHINGTON SKY…WE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO BRING BACK TOGETHER THE AMERICAN DREAM!

Posted by: Jerome | May 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Raquel said: Does he really think that we are stupid enough to believe that he never over 20 year heard his pastor talking the way that he talks.
Yes, Raquel, he does think we are that stupid; and the frightening aspect of this is that some Americans are.

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Once again, I’m seeing lots of name- calling, unchecked information, and more spreading of proven lies coming from Senator Clinton’s and Senator McCain’s camps.
Go ahead folks – call names, be angry, make threats. In the end, if Senator Obama gets the nomination, he will have a HUGE Republican mess to address and deserves the support of every single Democrat.
If Senator Clinton gets the nomination, we Obama supporters will have to decide whether we’ll vote for her as well.
Our American future looks a bit dingy at the moment since some folks would rather have a quick $30 gas relief for the summer vs. $1000 per family in a gas tax relief pkg.
If everyone would take ‘emotion’ out of this nomination equation and TRULY LOOK at the facts from PROVEN sources and NOT out of the mouths of some unstable bloggers, we might have reached a conclusion in this campaign already.
I’m speaking to all three candidates’ supporters here, including some from the Obama camp who have embarrassed me to death with their unkindnesses towards others.
Please – use reason and not emotion when blogging about this election.

Posted by: GrandmaCDA | May 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Heidi: I agree with you that if Obama is the Democratic nominee, then for the first time in my life, I will vote Republican. Every Democrat I’ve spoken to has said the same thing. I would never vote for a white racist for President, and I won’t vote for a black racist, either.

Posted by: Erin | May 3, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Of course Obama opposes and refuses to count Florida and Michigan because he will no longer have the lead.
I wonder if Obama knows that Florida and Michigan are part of the USA and if he wants to represent the Democratic party – he has to democratically INLCUDE each state and all democratic voters??? Even if they don’t vote for him???

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Quite amusing that Obama never forwards any proposals of his own on the campaign trail. He usually just attacks other people’s proposals.
I’m not suggesting he doesn’t have any, but for all his talk of “let’s talk about the issues Americans care about”, he seems to come up empty.
I’ve grown quite weary of his “that’s old politics”, “that’s negative politics”, “we need change”, etc.
Obama seems to be obsessed with campaigning about how to run a positive campaign – but we’ve seen little of that other than his words (which he usually doesn’t always abide by ironically).

Posted by: JA | May 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Raquel from FL,
Clearly, your physician’s license does not guarantee sound political judgment.

Posted by: Raquel from PA | May 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

BENVICTOR,
YOUR PROBLEN IS WITH YOUR LOCAL DEMOCRATIC LEADERS. THEY VIOLATED THE DNC RULES, NOT SEN. OBAMA. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. FOLLOW THE RULES – THIS IS A LAND OF “LAW & ORDER” ISN’T IT? I CERTAINLY DID NOT MAKE THE “LAWS AND RULES” OR THINGS WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT. FOR, I BELIEVE IN DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AND FAIR AND JUST FOR ALL OF HUMANITY! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Posted by: Lake Hart - A Native American Writer | May 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Obama’s message is clear, hopeful and comprehensive. Hillary’s me-too gas relief gimmick is transparently self-serving and not economically helpful. She’s proven to be patently dishonest and untrustworthy; like the Castro regime in Cuba, Hillary seems to prefers elections in which there is only one candidate: Hillary. Indiana’s going to be closer than she likes. Yet, craven as she is, she won’t drop out.

Posted by: David F. McBride | May 3, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I will be so glad when America can finally turn the page on Barrack Obama.
Hillary ’08 or McCain ’08

Posted by: Virginia Independent | May 3, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

I am strongly supporting Barack Obama, because I belong to the Democratic Party, NOT the “Clintonocratic Party.” All that “New Democrat” nonsense in the 1990s was just a way for Democrats to sound like Republicans. The Clintons will pander anything and stop at nothing to win. Barack Obama is a good and decent man who will end the debacle in Iraq and try to repair the damage of the past 8 years. He’s the leader of the new generation of politics, and he deserves to be the nominee, and will make a great President. Stand aside Hillary! VOTE OBAMA ’08

Posted by: Brad from Indiana | May 3, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

The change Obama is bringing is NEW APPROACH. Why people are so interested by this campaign? Would it be because of Hillary Clinton? Is she new in politics?
Well, think about all these young people having so many hopes now to see a real change into at least the style to make politics. Is Clinton able to make them happy? It is a very big issue to respect this inspiration.
WE NEED TO LIVE THIS NEW APPROACH OF POLITICS BROUGHT BY OBAMA!

Posted by: Jerome | May 3, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

OBAMA, OBAMA campaign, OBAMA fanatics are quite unified in using labels, slogan, idolization, and hollow inspiration; everything that you can find in a communism playbook. The most amazing thing is the part about inspiration even from party ex-chairman; is it a joke.
Democracy is the best thing you get and you need to preserve it for you and the world.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

This blog is silly.
Apparently almost everyone here has their candidate ‘nailed down’ in their mind, and is only here to bash supporters of the OTHER candidates.
I’m outta here.

Posted by: RedTT | May 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Iam amased by some of the comments posted here.Irrespective of the cndidates we support,lets be civil, respectful to each candidates and supporters as well.The fact remains that either Obama or Hilary will be the nominee and they will need each other’s supporters to win the election in November.Remember the gold rule!

Posted by: dave | May 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Senator Obama will go down in history as being one of the greatest, if not the greatest, president in history…..

Posted by: tony | May 3, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

If Obama wins the Nation will play the (Race)card. Fact.

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Obama wanted to help people in bankruptcy. Clinton didn’t. I suppose she didn’t mention she voted for an anti-consumer bankruptcy bill that she admitted she hoped would fail. And he voted for the consumer. “Actually, Mrs. Clinton has a mixed record on the bankruptcy bill, which wended its way through Congress over the course of several years, and on fighting the banks, which are a major constituency and major source of campaign contributions in New York. As a senator, in 2001, she voted for it, but it did not pass.” NYT

Posted by: kravitz | May 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

DMK: If you don’t support Obama if he wins the nomination, you should have the guts to enlist in the American Army and risk being dismembered there: If you vote for McCain, you are voting for war, and for leaving American soldiers twisting in the wind in Iraq, and you should put your life on the line and join them. American soldiers will die because of your petty little sulking that you do because you didn’t get your precious little candidate. There is a special place in hell for people like you.

Posted by: FilmMD | May 3, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

As I read the comments I came to the conclusion as to why Obama, with all his dirt, is leading in the delegate and popular vote counts. You people are so misinformed it is pathetic. Some of the stuff you proport as fact is so far off base, I have to wonder if ant of you ever watch the news or read a newspaper

Posted by: barb | May 3, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

I truly wish that an Obama supporter would address the character issue, because it is certainly legitimate, I believe. After all, we are talking about the leader of the free world. And Obama himself said the Wright issue is legitimate ground for discussion. I just wonder if it’s that you don’t believe Obama’s associations with Wright, Ayers etc. reflect on his character or is it that you think that even if he shares some of these individuals’ radical beliefs, it simply makes no difference to you. I’m truly interested in your position.

Posted by: eyeswideopen | May 3, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

A lot of people are not looking at the bigger picture when it comes to a gas tax holiday. It is not just about average consumers. It is about all of the industry impacts in transportation. I did a bit of research and found the real data that Clinton’s short and long term plans are based on. I will try to summarize the impacts here:
Clinton’s Short Term and Long Term Plan: gas tax holiday for the summer, windfall tax on oils companies to make them share the burden and prevent new taxes on Americans, possible new regulation on pricing to prevent oil companies from passing these costs on to consumers
Impact: Annual reduction of $9 billion dollars in gas taxes currently paid to the US Highway Trust Fund would not come out of consumer pockets but would be paid for by the oil industry to maintain highways (per economists with Taxpayers for Common Sense).
The impacts are much more complex than just expenses for gas. Any industry using transportation and energy (which is literally any business) can then be more competitive which stimulates the economy leading to lower prices on products and services and more jobs. Combine this with the short and long range plans for green jobs, restoration of our infrastructure, and increased security for our nation and you can see Clinton’s plans are not only solid but help secure our futures in many ways. We should not be selecting a nominee based on any single issue – we need a nominee with a comprehensive plan that will bring smart change leading to our return to economic prosperity and peace.

Posted by: DCVoter | May 3, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Poor little Obama. He’s a big boy, he can take the loss.

Posted by: MIF | May 3, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Obama stands for “Change” all right. Change for the worse. Even Obama supporters will vote Hillary in the Fall. They know she means business & has solutions to benifit them, & all Americans. Hillary is the Best Choice for America.

Posted by: not fooled | May 3, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

The only thing Hillary Clinton is better at is lying. The woman will do and say anything to get elected. She is counting on the ignorance of the American people. How truly sad.

Posted by: jane | May 3, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Rev Wright said that there is a left part of brain and a right part of the brain. Blacks use their part diffently than Whites. Since Obama is both Black and White, wonder how he uses his brain and what happens if a mixed signal is sent by his brain.
Guess lots of confusion and chaos.
Folks, think about.

Posted by: brea2020 | May 3, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Believe Wrght about Obama, But not about his statements about his HIV statements. Good show.

Posted by: James | May 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Of course Obama opposes and refuses to count Florida and Michigan because he will no longer have the lead.
I wonder if Obama knows that Florida and Michigan are part of the USA and if he wants to represent the Democratic party – he has to democratically INLCUDE each state and all democratic voters??? Even if they don’t vote for him???

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

The ENTIRE world is watching as the poor working class white person makes a fool out of themselves and the political process in the united states. This is why the world is on the brink of hating every single one of us and despices us when we come to there country to visit. HRC fans support stealing the nod from an African American because he is just that. they still feel AA don’t have rights and it shows. Like i said, HRC should be mccains running mate. People want more of the same, Mccain is going to give it to them. and guess who is going to suffer. Working Class Whites. not blacks, latinos or asians, cause we are darn close use to nothing.
OBAMA 08!!

Posted by: john | May 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

This country never ceases to amaze me. You vote for an inexperienced candidate twice (Bush), and when the next elections come up once again you vote for an inexperienced candidate (Obama).
Yes their policies are different, but it is the INEXPERIENCE that got us in trouble in the first place.
I just wish Obama would give us more detail about this “sweeping change” he’s been preaching for a year now, because honestly most of us don’t have a clue. Cap and trade for pollution? Ok, decent idea but certainly not radical change (it’s a Republican policty actually). Pseudo-Universal Health Care? Ok, nothing original about that. Cleaning up politics? Ok, seems you need to clean up yourself first Obama. Cracking down on corporate control of politics? Campaign finance reform? Ok, great idea, first put in the spotlight by John McCain years ago – only problem is, Barack, you are trying to back out of it now that you have so much funding. Getting rid of corporate interests? Ok, once again great idea, but, once again, only problem is your past has shown that you don’t abide by this. Additionally, your campaign is funded by a lot of people affiliated with corporate interests.
So what is this “change” he’s talking about? I see a lot of Obama supporters yapping on and on about “hope”, “change”, etc, but I don’t see any proposals that are even remotely concrete.
Please help us understand.

Posted by: JA | May 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

OBAMA SUPPORTERS: One thing I’ve found about many, if not most, Obama supporters, is that they never let the facts get in the way of their opinions.

Posted by: Truth | May 3, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Yes, Hillary has always believed that just “saying it” makes it true. Remember the bullets in bosnia? Didn’t work, did it?

Posted by: Gale | May 3, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Yo Cole: You don’t get it dude.
You need a re-think.
Hillary Clinton urges the government to give back to the people (I.e. Writing off the “gas tax”, let the people collect the money instead of the government during the summer period).
Do you know the meaning of cmpassion, being considerate to fellow Americans? Maybe not, being a boy.
But check this out: Hillary is urging the financial insitutions to give more time to families before repossessing their home I.e. Freeze foreclosures.
If you understand how economy works, this solution would be better for everyone because people may find ways to save their homes, catch up with repayments. This in turn will stabilise the housing market and the Banks will start having a healthy cash flow again – sabilising the ecomony. Yeah?
Now, why would you not agree with this?

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 3, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Obama delivers a great speech expect it never contains any substance. Then his adoring young or black followers chat YES WE CAN only they have no idea what that really means unless it is YES WE CAN CHANT.
Someone earlier wrote there should be an IQ test before voting and if so 90% of Hillary’s support would be gone. The reality it that if a common sense test were adopted 90% of Obama’s support would evaporate. The old adage is true, “The higher the IQ the less like to to be able to find the door.

Posted by: Allen, ND | May 3, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Posted by: brea2020 | May 3, 2008 5:02:07 PM
Rev Wright said that there is a left part of brain and a right part of the brain. Blacks use their part diffently than Whites. Since Obama is both Black and White, wonder how he uses his brain and what happens if a mixed signal is sent by his brain.
BY THE WAY HE HAS RUN THIS CAMPAIGN, HE USES BOTH.

Posted by: ks katty | May 3, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

A thoughtful leader always has a solution to fix a problem or crisis. Gas tax break is a good solution today. She will have other realistic plans to deal with other crisis in the years to come. This IS the difference.

Posted by: DCT | May 3, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Enough with these plans and fixes. They exploit our ignorance to the maximum and keep giving away to the powerful interests that run our country. Clinton is the consummate politician. Voters beware.

Posted by: worldsam | May 3, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Gas Tax Holiday = .18 per gallon
Gas price = 3.60 per gallon
Gas tax = .18 per gallon
Price = 3.42 per gallon
If you have a 15 gallon gas tank and you are on Empty with the warning light on, you save…….$2.70. WOW!!!
Ima gonna buy me a big screen!

Posted by: kell | May 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Wicked Obama has not answer to current problems, he is all rhetoric and big teleprompter scripted speeches. That’s why is is afraid to debate Hillary because he needs to answer right on the spot question and he needs the script to read. He was happy doing debates with his biased media friends from CNN, MSBC, NBC, etc; but when ABC had the tough questions he got scared!
What a wimp, phony candidate.
We need a fighter a real person.
Go Hillary!

Posted by: John in Indy | May 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

She says she’s “better” than Obama? That is a pretty weak attack. Is her dad “better” than Obama’s dad too?

Posted by: Eric | May 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

If we go by faith we should reelect Mr. Bush to office again. He is a devout Christian and says his prayers every day. But he has also managed to get us in a deep hole. His policies led us into a war for oil and sacrificed more than 4000 of our young men and women. Please let us stop arguing about faith. The person to hold the highest office should be judged by his character, judgment and leadership skills. Not by whether he goes to church every week. Religion should be an intensely personal thing. Not something to be worn on the cuff.

Posted by: worldsam | May 3, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I view gas tax holiday the same as the one-time check Bush is mailing out this week to taxpayers. A sudden flash for spending, then out of money again. Short term joy, followed by the same anguish that existed.

Posted by: fred | May 3, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Emily – Sen. Clinton’s plan has a lot of flaws. It requires as she says for the oil companies to provide the revenue to cover the $.18 tax. Businesses are highly unlikely to do this but more likely to pass this cost (to them) back to the consumer. What, I ask, would prevent oil companies from increasing the price of gas to cover their cost? The primary options left to government would be to 1) provide some quid pro quo i.e. permit oil companies drilling rights in some area like Anwar or offshore or 2) fix the price of fuel(which never would work). Sen. Clinton’s plan is pure nonsense. It basically markets to a public looking for a quick and easy relief but is not substantive.

Posted by: 63tango | May 3, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Hey Hillary, I think this quote by Churchill should sum it up for you in dealing with Obama and his campaign:
“Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide.” ~ W. Churchill

Posted by: Aggieboo65 | May 3, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Did you know that you can find out Hillary’s faults by paying attention to the faults she finds in her opponent. If she calls her oponent elitest, it’s herself she’s actually criticizing.
By the same token, she rallies of her oponent’s good qualities as if they were her own.
Truth. Pay attention.

Posted by: Knows the Truth | May 3, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

when Mccain is president, im going to smile with glee when all his voters, not necessarily supporters get there jobs taken away by outsourcing (made possible by Bill clinton), then have there kids taken by the draft and oil prices eat at there grocery budgets, when they keep the riches ppls in the land more wealthy off the taxes they pay. and have every mexican illegally in this country have 3/4 children, then make whites the minority! mccain. more of the same.
OBAMA 08!

Posted by: john | May 3, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

I like Obama’s gas plan better. I’m “hoping” the price of gas comes down. Waiting, waiting, …… waiting.

Posted by: LarryT | May 3, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Emily – Sen. Clinton’s plan has a lot of flaws. It requires as she says for the oil companies to provide the revenue to cover the $.18 tax. Businesses are highly unlikely to do this but more likely to pass this cost (to them) back to the consumer. What, I ask, would prevent oil companies from increasing the price of gas to cover their cost? The primary options left to government would be to 1) provide some quid pro quo i.e. permit oil companies drilling rights in some area like Anwar or offshore or 2) fix the price of fuel(which never would work). Sen. Clinton’s plan is pure nonsense. It basically markets to a public looking for a quick and easy relief but is not substantive.

Posted by: 63tango | May 3, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Jeremiah Wright is an idiot. I believe he is suffering from senility and he has turned on Obama. He has become jealous of Obama. A number(12-15) of Black Pastors in Chicago have united and they have announced that they are backing Obama and are behind him 100 percent! Northwestern University of Illinois have cancelled Jeremiah Wright from their graduation exercises. They hired him a year or two ago. Obama is for ALL Americans and he wants to do his best for the poor, the unfortunate. He wants all Americans to have a better life. He doesn’t want any of us to be struggling trying to make ends meet. He is absolutely correct about the gas tax. Check out what the economists say–they agree with Obama! Hillary and the Clinton Machine will do and say anything to win. They would sell their souls to win, if they had one to sell. The Clintons are KNOWN for their dishonesty and lies. Hillary willl not do any better than Bush! Mark my words. I will vote for a person I trust. Obama ’08

Posted by: CS3539 | May 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Hillary’s tax plan is better and Obama is playing politics here. Real Americans understands this not just people claiming they went to the university and have little reasoning. She will take the tax away and compensate for it well. CNN is just a useless station trying to change peoples mind to the negative direction. If you are a real and good American dont ever listen to CNN they have been bribed but they will fail woefully

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Yo, Bag-the-Billster:
You ran out of arguments, can’t defend your dude so… your last tool is foul mouthing on this blog.
Careful, you are giving a bad name to yourself…. READ UP INSTEAD and try to accept other people’s views.
Don’t need to use offensive language when you have a point.

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 3, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Where is Hillarys FLAG PIN????????????
She needs a vacation and I am willing to pay for her bus ticket to the islands

Posted by: Ron | May 3, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

I will be so glad when America can finally turn the page on Hillary Clinton.
Barack Obama in ’08′

Posted by: Middle-Aged Lady | May 3, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

when Mccain is president, im going to smile with glee when all his voters, not necessarily supporters get there jobs taken away by outsourcing (made possible by Bill clinton), then have there kids taken by the draft and oil prices eat at there grocery budgets, when they keep the riches ppls in the land more wealthy off the taxes they pay. and have every mexican illegally in this country have 3/4 children, then make whites the minority! mccain. more of the same.
OBAMA 08!

Posted by: john | May 3, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

when Mccain is president, im going to smile with glee when all his voters, not necessarily supporters get there jobs taken away by outsourcing (made possible by Bill clinton), then have there kids taken by the draft and oil prices eat at there grocery budgets, when they keep the riches ppls in the land more wealthy off the taxes they pay. and have every mexican illegally in this country have 3/4 children, then make whites the minority! mccain. more of the same.
OBAMA 08!

Posted by: john | May 3, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Obama, we dont want you and your racist stance. You have come to take away our peace and give up our country to terrorists. We know about your plan to negotiate with them and punish Israel. You want to put our country down , please just GO AWAY GO AWAY JUST GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Clinton again offers a bandaid solution to stem massive bleeding. These are at best gimmicks hatched by clever people to keep the masses sold without hurting the powerful in any way. We are also to blame for these manipulations. If a politician speaks the truth we do not want to hear he or she will never get elected.

Posted by: worldsam | May 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

The real battle is no longer with the voters. It is with the Superdelegates and they are not falling for the fake gimmicks of Sillary. She can say snything and do anything to fool voters all she wants, but it doesn’t hold water with those inside Superdelgates who can see right through all that and even know her personally like, Bill Richardson and Joe Andrew–both Clinton insiders. If those in the know say NO TO CLINTON, so should ALL TRUE DEMOCRATS.
The Democratic party is bigger than the Clintons and their polarzing divisiveness. Let’s turn the page.
OBAMA 08

Posted by: really | May 3, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Honor&intergrity1- Lol!more than one person- indeed Hillary “Queen of Scotland” -http://www.newmediajournal.us/guest/
k_miller/07212007.htm

Posted by: Jonathan | May 3, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Where is her FLAG PIN??
Did you notice all those idiots standing behind her nodding their heads “YES” when she talks? it’s habit forming.
She talks out of the side of her mouth and with her hands.
Will Bill have to sign into the local WHITE HOUSE police as a *** offender??
Will she have the rear seat of his FIRST MAN limo removed??
Will the taxpayers have to buy her an extra wide park bench to sit on in the oval office??
She is SURE getting FAT!!

Posted by: Ron | May 3, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

It is important to lay down the prep work for taxing the windfall profits of the oil companies. Hillary supports this. Currently the oil companies are making a huge profit. The reason to provide tax relief will allow president Hillary to support the winfall profits of the oil companies. Since, road work dollars need to flow in and the oil companies will have to pick up the tab. Obama does not have this leadership. He just wrings his hands!

Posted by: Voter | May 3, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

DCVOTER YOU ARE GREAT GOD BLESS YOU. EVEN BLACKS ARE ALREADY MOVING TOWARD CLINTON GOD SAVE AMERICA . FROM WRIGHT , HE SAID OBAMA IS AN HYPOCRITE HE REALLY IS EVEN WITH HIS OIL TAX PLAN HE IS NEVER STRAIGHT FOWARD.

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Your comments are good for whichever candidate one supports. Surely, they can be applied to HRC, who has lied and gotten away with it; who has run a horrific campaign and gotten away with it (so far). It’s really humorous to see these comments that are running less on information than on passion.

Posted by: Level-Headed | May 3, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

You want disgusting? Guam, a U.S. Territory, will cast some of its votes for Obama. Ironic since Obama opposes allowing the American people in the great States of Florida and Michigan to participate in the democrat’s nomination race. These American people will not have their votes counted nor can they cast votes because Obama opposes these Americans to participate. Given his known problems that have been reported, one would think he would get on board with the American people. Probably too late now; the train has left the station.

Posted by: benvictor | May 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

I clipped off the quote …
“Federal election laws require campaigns to charge for the use of their data. The campaign must either sell the information or record the transaction as an in-kind contribution at fair- market value.”
The issue for me is not that the system exists but that it was created for Obama’s personal benefit. He is profiting handsomely from this election but is giving none of that back to his supporters — many of whom can scarcely afford the money they are sending to Washington to buy change.
They should at least have an opt-out option if they don’t want their personal data collected. Some sort of no-call list for political contributors … something akin to saying “I want to elect you President” not make you a multimillionaire Washington power broker.

Posted by: jlynne | May 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Hillary is the best candidate for this election. I hope the people vote for her tuesday and the superdelegates realize that she is the only candidate that is going to solve america’s problems as well as beat mccain!!!!! GO HILLARY!!!

Posted by: jeremy | May 3, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

TJ that was great we need more of them to help us out and save our economy from its current state, Great point

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Many Obama supporters contribute incredibly rude comments toward Senator Clinton and President Clinton on these site — personally attacks beyond the pale. I know a great many of those supporters are very young and are accustomed to silly, immature school- yard type attacks. However, if they, or the more temperate mature supporters believe those insults will go away with the simple raising of an arm of support for Senator Obama at the Convention in August, you all have a big surprise coming. Those of us who are independents, not Democrats owe the Party zip. And, those of us who live in states where a Democrat has no chance whatsoever of winning anyway, i.e., Wyoming, the Dakotas, etc.) will happily write Senator Clinton’s name on the November ballot.
I have no desire to see McCain win, but I also have no desire to cast my support for a candidate who attracts and encourages the kind of supporters Senator Obama does. Barack is in scary company, and I’m not talking about Rev. Wright. I don’t hold Senator Obama responsible for his wacky pastor. But, I do hold him accountable for how he directs his supporters. I don’t care how many people support him — Hitler won the popular vote too in a fair election. Congratulation! Because, if the party splits in November, the Dems will lose; and no group will be more responsible for pushing Clinton supporters into the hands of McCain than you all!

Posted by: Barbara | May 3, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Give me a break. Talk about easy to CLAIM a Ph.D. while spewing a so-called analysis of the proposed gas-tax holiday. The idea is BAD. Period. It does nothing to curb America’s dependence on oil nor does it address remaining economic problems Americans are facing on a daily basis. It’s a gimmick. It’s an idea to get people to THINK the candidate actually cares about her constituency. PLUS, it’s not even her idea. By the way, I’ve got a Ph.D and am the leader of an entire country – P.L.E.A.S.E.

Posted by: givemeabreak | May 3, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

AMEN, Barbara..well said!!

Posted by: Aggieboo65 | May 3, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Dan , I live in california where i put about 20 gal/wk in my car, and my wife had a car that take about 8 gal/w. Times 28gal to 14 weeks, that come to about 392 gal. why is it so hard for you to see. just because you like in school and don’t have to work or take your kid to school or drive your parents around for doctor’s sppiontment don’t mean others won’t. Also, tell me that how will Obama pay for the 1000 tax credit per family times about 100 million family to the total of close to a trillion while we are already in deficit? If that wasn’t just talk, that is. I guess the “educated” without logical sense aren’t that much better than the uneducated, no?

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

When it comes to economics Hillary is super and we have great confidence in her . She is an expert and that is what Obama cannot take away from her as she cant take rhetorics away form him(Obama) . I do know something here, Solutions is far better then rhetorics isnt it. Hillarys oil tax plkan id the best . I am saying it again if Obama is so donfident of himself , let him come out for a debate with Hillary and see if he will not be floored.

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Gas prices will continue to rise as long as consumption keeps up. If we cut back gas price will drop. To keep their profits up oil companies will have to sell more. To entice us to buy more they will drop prices further. We will all run up to buy gas guzzlers and drive up demand for gasoline. Gas prices will climb again and we would have come full circle. It has happened before. One does not need a doctoral degree to come to grips wit this. Just common sense would do.

Posted by: worldsam | May 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Sure Hillary. Buy our votes. Do you think Americans are so dumb as to fall for this gas tax holiday? Well, maybe some are, and I suggest before they buy into this idea, they take Economics 101. What´s so ironic about her idea is that, in an attempt to appeal to blue collar voters, her plan will actually wind up costing 12,000 or more blue collar jobs (highway road construction workers) in Indiana and North Carolina. Nice try Hillary.

Posted by: George | May 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Smart lady Barbara, the Obama fans often forget that should Obama win the nomination, he can’t win the general election with half of the party. Go Hillary/McCain

Posted by: Jacko | May 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Sure Hillary. Buy our votes. Do you think Americans are so dumb as to fall for this gas tax holiday? Well, maybe some are, and I suggest before they buy into this idea, they take Economics 101. What´s so ironic about her idea is that, in an attempt to appeal to blue collar voters, her plan will actually wind up costing 12,000 or more blue collar jobs (highway road construction workers) in Indiana and North Carolina. Nice try Hillary.

Posted by: George | May 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

When it comes to economics Hillary is super and we have great confidence in her . She is an expert and that is what Obama cannot take away from her as she cant take rhetorics away form him(Obama) . I do know something here, Solutions is far better then rhetorics isnt it. Hillarys oil tax plan is the best . I am saying this again if Obama is so donfident of himself , let him come out for a debate with Hillary and see if he will not be floored.

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

George, i took econ, and the money that was save will also spend and creat job at the same time. $50x10mil=500milx trigle down it could creat a few billion in the economy, that will means a lot more job. Where did you take your econ at?

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

anonymous, Glad to see you are the only expert in the field that thinks the tax break will help anyone. That is probably why you are anonymous. Clearly gas prices will continue to rise with or without a tax break. Charging the oil companies as Hillary suggest will come back as additional costs and raise gas even further. The only way to lower prices is to reduce demand. This is not simple economics, the prices will continue to climb and when the tax is put back on in the fall, if this tax holiday ever gets passed before next year, it will be ontop of an inflated price and things will just be worse. There is an equilibrium that is achieved in price versus demand, with or without the tax. This is about politics not economics. This is about getting votes not about substance. This is about the falling value in the dollar and people making money on commodities. The biggest impact is to reduce consumption. By the way that is also good for the environment. Educate people to reduce consumption and then the folks that have no choice will benefit.

Posted by: outraged08 | May 3, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

With 95% of the vote counted, according to a CNN tally, Obama had won 53% against Clinton’s 47% in Guam but this does not tell the whole story. Guam has 13 delegates of which 8 get 1/2 vote and the other 5 are SD’s. Of the SD’s, one is committed to Clinton and the other 4 are uncommitted. If the Guam pledged delegate allocation is all or nothing then Obama would get 4. That would bring the tally to Obama 4, Clinton 1, and 4 undecided. Given the fact that Guam is an island territory with close roots to Hawaii (Obama’s birthplace and home until adulthood), it is surprising that Clinton did so well among its voters in a caucus. In no way was it considered a significant victory for Obama and the SD’s may tip it to Clinton on behalf of the interests of its voters. Obama is opposed to allowing Guam residents to vote in a Presidential election whereas Clinton is in favor of it (wants Guam to be able to become a state.) Both are in favor of reparations paid by the US Govt (from its Japan reparations) to Guam residents who were held hostage by Japan.

Posted by: DCVoter | May 3, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Babara, you are a good American citizen. God bless you .I think we should recommend people like you for Hillary to serve as her cabinet member. We want People that will bring reformation to America not those that will give us up to terrorists

Posted by: A True black American | May 3, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Jeremy…..I will be voting for Senator Clinton on Tuesday and I know several other Black women who will do the same

Posted by: Virginia in NC | May 3, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

READY999, when did you see me for the war? I was a vet, and hate when people said the military support Bush(only the generals do). But what’s that had to do with my question of where the money come from? just answer my question. I am independent by the way, i need information, no question to my question. that is if you can provide it.

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Yeah… you and McCain … good experience got to those brilliant answers on the gas tax… tell more about your ‘experience’ events during Bill’s presidency… wasn’t it sniper trips and freedom fights for womens’ vote?…. why aren’t we hearing about all this experience anymore?… and, Senator, besides using your political clout for earmarks… what experience are you touting, exactly?

Posted by: origood | May 3, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

READY999, sorry, i forgot to said that the money was already spend even if the troops are to pull out next year. Also, with the mess we had, there are no way they could pull out completely within six month, Hillary or Obama, it’s just politic talk. So where do we ge tthe money from?

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

If she didn’t believe that she would make a better president than him, she wouldn’t be running. It doesn’t look very presidential when you are constantly in reaction mode.

Posted by: Mack | May 3, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

DC Voter:
Using the “Clinton New Math” to figure out Clinton’s SD support in Guam, eh?
Nice try.
And I haven’t seen anything saying Senator Obama is opposed to Guamanians getting the vote, but his ethics didn’t allow him to behave like Hillabeans in pandering to the voters by telling them something that she couldn’t deliver!
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | May 3, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Ok the only folks that think the Gas tax is a good idea are Clinton and McCain. The govt’ does not have the authority to freeze foreclosures, unless she is going to nationalize the banks.

Posted by: Louis | May 3, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

I believe that by paying more taxes, we shall make the world a much better place. No tax breaks for the people!!!

Posted by: Mack | May 3, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Those of you who are criticizing Hillary for paying for her Gas Tax Holiday with a windfall profits tax on the oil companies – do know that part of Obama’s oil plan is a windfall profits tax on the oil companies; don’t you? Not that I believe we’ll ever see it since he’s in bed with big oil; but it kind of takes the steam out your argument, doesn’t it?

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 3, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

This is Hillary’s best reasoning so far. I’m ALMOST convinced to vote for her.

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 3, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

I don’t know if the gas tax holiday will work. However, what i do know is that Clinton is offering solutions. Obama is offering nothing. Where is the hope.
We are Americans and America is a “can” do nation. It seems to me that Clinton is the “can” do candidate.
I don’t understand the media reports that some democrats are mad at Clinton because she won’t get out of the race?
I like my Democrats as fighters. These democrats would have called for Harry Truman to quit too.
Why should they be upset? Hillary is outperforming Obama and she is the only democrat who is beating John McCain.
Pelosi and gang must not want to compete with a Democratic White House. That must be why they want this to end because Clinton will when the general election and take power away from Pelosi.
Anyone who does not see that is not paying attention.
FYI…if the DNC had counted Florida and Michigan, this race would already be over. So don’t point the finger at Clinton. She is winning. Why should she go away. Does not make any sense!!!!
That logic is why the Democrats have not had the White House in 8 years.

Posted by: Gabe Polson, The Woodlands,TX | May 3, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

By the way, I’m not seeing any Obama yard signs – which figures since his office is charging $7.50 for each one. He’s laughing at the “little people” who sent him their donations. He’s rolling in millions, not to mention the database of personal info he’s collected that’s currently valued at $200 million. Guess what? It all belongs to him, no matter what happens in this election. He and Michelle are movin’ on up!

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 3, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

So what if Obama is beating Hillary in Guam? It’s only by an anemic 103 votes. Yes, that’s less than the average number of people waiting in line at the DMV for a driver’s license.
Hillary recently beat Barack in PENNSYLVANIA by 214,224 votes.
Hillary beat Barack in OHIO by 32,781 votes.
Hillary beat Barack in NEW YORK by 305,709 votes.
Hillary beat Barack in CALIFORNIA by 416,335 votes.
There’s a difference between a CLINTON WIN and an Obama win — a substantial difference!

Posted by: Mary Santos | May 3, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Do not be surprised if in the next couple of days Clinton roles out a few more of these gimmicks. She is smart and knows that most of us will fall for it again. Recall the promises they made to pass NAFTA. We were told that trade will improve job prospects for our citizens. Now she has a plan to fix NAFTA again. I am afraid we will find out, perhaps ten years too late, that we have all been taken to the cleaners.

Posted by: worldsam | May 3, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

READY999, I’ve heard nothing about Paul. Have found a lot of sites talking about the Obama camp threatening, intimidating, making false statements against some guy named Sinclair. Why doesn’t Obama just address it? He can either admit to it or deny it out right. It would then be over…just like that.

Posted by: terry | May 3, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Both Hillary & Bill have earned my respect. They have not been perfect, but they’ve helped our country more than they’ve hurt it. I can’t say the same about Bush.
Obama hasn’t earned my respect, only my concern. He’s jumped on the world stage, grabbed the mike and sung some Karaoke about what he’s going to do when he grows up.
I am troubled by his vascillations. I am disturbed by his overinflated confidence to completely dismantle Washington and rebuild it in his image.
I’d rather vote for someone who can simply help our family survive in this turbulent economy. Universal health care would be nice, but right now, we just want to keep food on the table & a roof over our heads. We are all voting for Hillary.

Posted by: Chelsea S. | May 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

If Senator Clinton is such a leader how come she can not get her own party to vote on the gas tax holiday? They control both houses of congress and they’ve both refused to even discuss it. This doesn’t bode well for the rest of her agenda.

Posted by: gorefan | May 3, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Yes, Hillary had a great plan with NAFTA. She also had a great plan with the Iraq War. We’ve seen where her “great” plans have gotten us. Everyone with even a minimal education knows the gas tax holiday will not reduce the cost of gas for the average American and will only serve to line the pockets of the oil companies who are already making billions in profits. More to the point, it will cost 300,000 jobs and divert several billion dollars away from road repairs and bridge maintenance (think Minnesota). That sounds like a GREAT plan. The tax gas holiday has never worked so why would anyone think it would work this time when history tells a different story (and economists and other experts agree it will not work, but it sure sounds good). Even more importantly, it is completely ridiculous for a democrat to say they will vote for McCain in the event their candidate does not win the nomination. First of all, McCain is the one who recently told Americans who were suffering during this recession to “get a second job” and he’d be happy to spend 100 yrs in Iraq. Secondly, McCain’s spiritual advisors are the ones who said abortions occurred in public schools and Katrina was God’s revenge for a proposed gay parade in New Orleans. Third, McCain doesn’t know the differene between Sunni and Shiite and which group Iran actually supports. So, give me a break, no person in their right mind could vote for McCain if they are a democrat. Hillary’s experience is 8 years as a Senator. She didn’t know Musharaff was not up for re-election and she couldn’t pronounce Medvedev’s name. She also thought the American people were too stupid to know that the Dayton Peace Accords were signed a year before she went to Bosnia and was under “sniper fire”. So, if anyone TRULY cared about experience, then Richardson, Dodd, or Biden would be in the lead for the Democratic nomination and not Hillary or Obama.

Posted by: AthomeinNC | May 3, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

READY999, and Terry, let’s no buy into the political crap and excahnge ideas instead of personal attack on both side.

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Hillary is the only democrat who can take on McCain – AND WIN.

Posted by: East Side Love | May 3, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

We don’t want bo’s type of change. Its bs but the youngsters don’t know any better. They buy this crap and proudly call it caviar. They’ll learn their lessons the hard way by falling for a facade. We did with Jimmy, they’re doing it for him. We’re voting for anyone but this kid.

Posted by: olivedale sr ct | May 3, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Good Judgement — no you aren’t
For your informaiton I have done my research on Obama. His choice of associates is scary at best. That’s why I believe Obama has poor judgement. You are free to have a different opinion if you wish. The media is covering it up because they are in the tank for Obama. The truth is out there and it will set you free…just look for it.

Posted by: terry | May 3, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

To: Demo Rules — A slight clarification/correction to your original post:
Attention Delegates/Super-Delegates; OBAMA stands for everything thats is Against, what the Democrats stand for!
What true Democrat would Elect someone who has lied time and time again.(Rezko, Rev. Wright, NAFTAGATE,Selma, JFK, etc..) I believe OBAMA is a Republican Implant, that will Destroy that Democratic Party!

Posted by: BBMJ32 | May 3, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

i am a so called spineless democrat from what earl says becuz i vote mccain over obama cuz i don’t trust a guy like this to lead. sorry. not going put the land i love in his hands.

Posted by: macncheese | May 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

READY999 , I don’t listen to personal attack without proof. I don’t buy the association of Obama and Wright as the media make it out to be either, so i had no idea. But i am interested in real solution that you are talking about, please enlight me. I had to admit things that i don’t know. I think rumors are just politic as usual any way. If you don’t care to anwser my question, i can understand. I think i am kind of expected this anyway.

Posted by: andy sf | May 3, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

In solutions Obama will be like when he was a legislator in Illinois. He will not take any and just vote PRESENT. Hillary will fight for America

Posted by: Texaslobo | May 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

In solutions Obama will be like when he was a legislator in Illinois. He will not take any and just vote PRESENT. Hillary will fight for America

Posted by: Texaslobo | May 3, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

OBAMA CAMP PREDICT THEY WOULD CARRY GAUM BY 11 to 15 POINT THIS MORNING!!!
BUT BUT WE DID TIE WITH THEM HOW IS THAT HAH?
GO HILLARY
NC AND IN IS NEXT

Posted by: Linda, | May 3, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Hillary loses Guam by less than 10 votes and Obama supporters are yelling that she bow out!? I am still for Hillary and can’t see her stop. But, it does’nt really matter if she is out or in- at this point. In the end, if it is Obama and McCain, I will have to vote with my conscience. I didn’t vote for Obama in the primary and I won’t vote for him in the general election.
I am very upset with Bush and his croonies, but that doesn’t mean McCain is out.

Posted by: Lou | May 3, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Hey Linda,
First of all Obama campaign predicted a 26 point victory in Guam!
Clinton tied with him!
Terms of NC and IN,I can isnsure you that NC will deliver and come very very close with Obama!!!
A surprise victory would be great but I don;t think so!
IN should be for HILLARY!
GO HILLARY in NC and come close with few points!!! that will be a victory for Hillary even if Obama wins by 5 to 7 points in NC!
LOL

Posted by: Adam, NC | May 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Hillary and obama got 50% even in Guam!
Obama won by seven more people’s vote only!!!
That is NOT a victory for Obama!
This is a victory for Hillary!!!
Obama supposed to win Guam by 26 points since he is from Hawai!!!
This clearly shows Obama lost his ground!
LOL

Posted by: Adam, NC | May 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

John Galt: I see your wisdom and I agree with you..but I cannot vote Republican with the kind of policies that they expouse..so I’m democrat who can vote an independant candidate but not Republican..get my point?

Posted by: Earl | May 3, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Hey AZ!
Don’t be sorry , if you’d be with Obama you’d be the biggest phony ever came around!
Obama runs the candidate of change and new Washington and clean politics!
Even his pastor REv Wrong called him just a politician!
Obama the biggest phont an liar!
Obama betrayed his pastor since than some blacks are turned their backs to Obama and his campaign!
You will face it in NC next Tuesday!!!

Posted by: Sinan | May 3, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Jeremiah Wrong has called Obama just a politician!
He s right this time!
Obama will get in trouble with the black thelogy!
You will see what Rev Wrong will do to Obama
Stay tuned!!!

Posted by: MR WRONG | May 3, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

OBAMA THE LIAR:
There was another inexperienced socialist liberal and inexperienced lightweight from Illinois, and his name was Abraham Lincoln. He was an obscure lawyer and one term Congressman, and the nation had the good sense to choose him.

Posted by: FilmMD | May 3, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

For those Clinton supporters who are citing her as a leader. Um. John McCain first suggested this idea.
Also, as well as the obvious economic reasons why this is a terrible idea, it’s also going to cost thousands of jobs in the construction industry. You know, as they won’t have the tax money from the gas to use on highway construction projects, repair projects, etc.
If you are in a job which is relying on that tax money, enjoy that $30 you’ll save over the summer months.

Posted by: cerebus | May 3, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Earl: I take high offense over what you said about our military. My entire family is military – from career retired, to career active, to etched on a black wall. I have two currently in-country after multiple times over there already and the only thing substantive I have heard Obama say was in an interview last week. He said clearly and forcefully that if his top military commanders in theatre were to tell him that his orders would result in countless deaths of US military members, that his orders would be carried out no matter what. He would be the Commander in Chief and his decisions would rule no matter what anyone with experience told him. I can guarantee you that if that happened, and if mine were to make it back to wherever he sent them without them dying for his arrogance, they would not re-up ever again. In fact, one is in a position to just resign and say “see ya” without notice. I certainly hope that you have capable “kids” (do I ever hate that term, right up there with “boys and girls” when referring to our military) who are willing to volunteer, train, maintain themselves at the highest professional levels, and dedicate their entire lives to defending us to replace them. Mine have done that and more. Feel free, now, to call me a racist for not supporting Obama. BTW, I’m NA. Justify that.

Posted by: Skyebeader | May 3, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Adam, NC | May 3, 2008 8:18:34 PM
But the Clinton team says a ‘win is a win’, right? So, how is this a ‘win’ for Hillary and a ‘loss’ for Obama?
Also, I don’t know where you learned geography, but Guam is nowhere near Hawaii.

Posted by: cerebus | May 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Save your breaths, this game is over, the media is now squarely on Clinton’s side. Every news outlet acts as if Obama is not even in the race any more. “Clinton attacks ..” “Clinton said …”, Clinton rips…”, “Clinton pledges ….” So why don’t they just come out and say it.
“Vote Clinton for president we love her diviciveness, makes us relevant.”

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Michelle Obama said: “We would like to move on if the media would let us.”
The media sid: “If we can’t talk about Rev. Wright or criticize Obama we won’t write or talk about Obama either.”

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Let me focus on some issues with Obama than!
1) Obama will double your capital gains taxes
Hillary will increase only 5 more percent!
2) Obama will double your payroll taxes,
Hillary will NOT touch them at all!
How can a small business pay double payroll tax? Obama will bankrupt the country!
3) Obama will increase your income taxes if you make 70thousand and up
Hillary will increase your income taxes if you make 200thousand and up
Meanwhile Obama will NOT increase the the real rich people’s income tax by proprtion
But Hillary will go after them based on how much they make?
In otherwords people like Michael Bloomberg for instance, will pay the most and people who make a million a year will pay sure less!
When it comes to Obama Michael Bloomberg will get the same income tax increase as a guy who makes over 70thousand a year with Obama’s income tax increase!
That is why he likes Obama! HAH???
Wake up America!
That is why the elitist high income sure wnats Obama!
Obama will suck the middle classes blood and make sure there won’t be any middle class left!
WORKING CLASS UNITE AGAINST OBAMA NOW!!!

Posted by: GAIL | May 3, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Indiana and N.C.,
Before you vote for Clinton, remember she voted for NAFTA before she’s against it.

Posted by: donis georgiou | May 3, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Gail, where did you get the information.

Posted by: donis georgiou | May 3, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Hey cerebus,
In order to count it as win is a win he should have at least get 1(one percent ) more
It is a statistical tie!
50% – 50%
Sorry but true!
If you still wish to call a win, it’s sure ok, but it is NOT sure a victory and a defeat!
That is my point actually it is Hillary’s victory because she was expected to come 26 points behind!
Thanks,

Posted by: Adam, NC | May 3, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

What do you think A, should we ignore it and maybe it will go away?

Posted by: Aggieboo65 | May 3, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Well, if people would just look past their own backyards in the gas tax holiday, they would see the benefit for those of us who do more than just drive the family car to work and around town everyday. How about the long haul truck drivers whose added fuel charges make everything we buy more expensive? How about the salesmen and others who travel for a living? How about the farmers who need fuel to run all their machinery and fuel to get the products they grow to market? And since Senator Clinton’s plan includes having the big oil companies pay for this gas tax holiday out of their obscene profits, where’s the foul? All Obama does is criticize her, and yet never, ever comes up with better solutions, and his lack of knowledge on the issues is becoming more and more evident as each day passes. He won’t debate her on the issues because he knows her solutions come from a deep understanding of underlying causes and the way to achieve results, while his positions on his website were written by others, and he can’t defend them because they’re not his positions to begin with. Hillary Clinton gets it – Barack Obama is simply deflating before our very eyes because once the message of “hope” and “change” has lost its luster, he has nothing else.

Posted by: Grammy Barb | May 3, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

I guess Mr. Obama does not know how much he needs to pay to fill up a truck’s gas tank ?
I am a truck driver and a half tank is a lot of money for me,
A week of meal?
He is an idiot!

Posted by: Randy, IN | May 3, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

LMAO!!! Good one, A!!!

Posted by: Aggieboo65 | May 3, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

It’s all in how the media phrases it. Anything Hillary says is considered an “attack” and anything Obama says is considered “enlightening and transcends.”
It’s all in how you frame it and the media is good at being biased.
I think Hillary would be so much better on economic issues.
Hillary ’08!

Posted by: Oren | May 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Randy, IN:
So now you are fed, how about the road you have to drive your truck on? WHo pays to maintain that road?

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Gillis,
I have no time for you but it is a simple question,
Hillary Clinton saod we will pay for it this time!
That’s Mccain who does not want to pay!

Posted by: Randy, IN | May 3, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Obama fist said he knew one or two statements of his pastor, than next one he says he did not hear anythung!
Obama is the biggest liar!

Posted by: George, MA | May 3, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

hannity and Holmes is doing a great job!
Obama is a problem!
Man what a liar!
Obama twisted his position 6 times about Rev Wright!
I’d think he would have listened to what he said before and stay at his words!
LIAR LIAR LIAR Obama!

Posted by: IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY | May 3, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Game over. “The People” have caught on to the Media’s attemnpt to decide the outcome of the election. The Media did this with the Bush administration buying into the “Fear Tactics” without doing their job, investigating, and reporting the news. The Media’s credibility is shot to Hell and they did it to their self. Obama will win quite convincingly. OBAMA ’08

Posted by: Ken | May 3, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

I will vigorously campaign for and contribute to McCain if Hillary is nominated. What’s another 8 years of republican hell? The democrats deserve it.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Has anyone considered obama is getting less press cause he has nothing to say? About time – Senator Clinton, who has an opinion and proposes solutions, gets the notice she deserves. So much for the give me your vote cause i am your hope even tho i stammer and stutter when i don’t have a prepared speech – and just say nothing, candidate who’s followers just wants to divide the Democratic Party. Join the trend. Hillary ’08

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

All the Hillary supporters have to do is write her name in when it gets to the GE.Most won’t vote for Obama and some won’t vote for McCain.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Only an elitist would think that a reduction of $.18 a gallon for gas would not make a difference to the average person. Come on Obama get real!

Posted by: Bob | May 3, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Obama is so uneletable its not even funny. His supporters are not helping him as a matter of fact I won’t vote for him due to the way the Obama supporters treat everyone, Really mature
Believe me i’m not the only one who feels this way.

Posted by: Melissa | May 3, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

“I want the oil companies to pay the federal gas tax this summer,” Mrs. Clinton told voters on Saturday in Wake Forest, N.C.
__________
What a joke. The oil companies already pay this tax. It is not a tax at the pump people.
The whole issue a mute point anyways considering nobody is presenting a bill to congress. What? You Hillary supporters did not know your candidate does not feel strong enough about this issue to go to Washington to sponsor a bill over the fictional Gas Tax Holiday? Are you naive enough to think that Queen Hillary can cry for certain legislation on the campaign trail and all of Congress will stand at attention?
She is not doing anything about this issue other than taking advantage of voters who do not know better. This “Tax Holiday” will never happen because Congress and all the leading economist know it will not work. Hillary knows it too.

Posted by: Oeno | May 3, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Obama has lost more mo than expected. Clinton may take Indiana by double digits. Go Hillary08+

Posted by: Carol | May 3, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Bob:
Obama’s real problem is that he really thinks you are smart.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Ready999 – the reason the price of gas keeps going up is because people like you don’t care about the $.18 here or the $.25 there. Keep up the driving and “hope” Dumbama has SOME plan!

Posted by: Bob | May 3, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Why don’t these oil companies give some of the millions of dollars in profits back to the people who buy their product. It’s ridiculous to me that we are paying $3.60 a gal for gas but they are making hell and all profits.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Nice with the personel attacks obamites make fun of a classy race horse giving its all on the track and dying.If obama wins the nomination and 40% of the Democratic Party switch to the opposition or writes in Clinton, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Its not racist: Its sick and fed up with your trash.

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Hmmm.. Obama won Guam by only SEVEN vote…lol

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Yea “Either you are with us or against us” Very bushy. That’s how she lost health care in 1992, and we subsequently lost the Senate and the House to the republicans because of her. Remember GOP’s “Covenant with America?” It named Hillary’s healthcare plan as reason to change congress, and it worked.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Yea “Either you are with us or against us” Very bushy. That’s how she lost health care in 1993, and we subsequently lost the Senate and the House to the republicans because of her. Remember GOP’s “Covenant with America?” It named Hillary’s healthcare plan as reason to change congress, and it worked.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Adam, NC | May 3, 2008 8:18:34 PM
Not sure where you got your 26 points edge from?
In this post on CBS News, on March 30, Clinton was supposed to win Guam:
http://cbslocalblogs.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=kyw_backroom&entry=3

Posted by: cerebus | May 3, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Adam, NC | May 3, 2008 8:18:34 PM
Ah, this is where your confusion over the 26 points comes in:
“Guam update:
Ballot Counting Behind Schedule; Sen. Obama Gains Headway
Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08
12:00 a.m. Guam – The results of three precincts are in, but the ballot counting at election central is still behind at this hour.
Official results from Maina, Ordot and Inarajan show that Senator Barack Obama is leading Senator Hillary Clinton by 26 percentage points.
Meanwhile, the manual counting this year seems to be taxing officials.
In fact, Herbie Perez, chairperson of the Democrat’s nominating committee, has stopped overseeing the process to form another group with her at the helm.
She told the Pacific News Center previously that she expected tabulations to be complete by 11:30 p.m. – Pacific News Center – Guam, Saipan, CNMI, Asia-Pacific”

Posted by: cerebus | May 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

“Those negative comments about Obama are from republicans who are out to cause fighting with in the dem party. Again folks falling for the republican political operation divide and conquer.”
Well first, if you don’t support Obama you must be racist. And now republican. Hey, obamatons, stop grasping at straws why others don’t think your candidate has the “Wright” stuff. Oh wait. He does.

Posted by: MidwestIowa | May 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

Let’s pander some more and do and say anything to win. We want this dishonest sleaze representing the gender?

Posted by: Erin - WA | May 3, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

I am a BO supporter and I WILL be voting for McCain if this liar and divisive person wins (by hook or crook).
Anyone that supports her tactics is Stupid to me. How can you all not see through an .18 cent discount. Remember in Hills world a WIN is A wIN.

Posted by: tukss | May 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Let’s pander some more and do and say anything to win. We want this dishonest sleaze representing the gender?

Posted by: Erin - WA | May 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

TedDaddy,
Showing his judgment on the people he associates with, its’ more dangerous to have Obama in the White House than McCain. Besides that what do we all really know about this man.What I’ve seen doesn’t impress me.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Adam, NC | May 3, 2008 8:18:34 PM
Oh, and one other thing. The two Guam superdelegates who endorsed Obama also won today.
So, let’s see that’s 7 for Obama and 3 for Clinton today.

Posted by: cerebus | May 3, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

This article emulates a press release from the Clinton campaign. Fortunately, most informed bloggers see it as such and know the inevitable outcome of these contests.
Reminds me of the Fox network flaunting “fair & balanced” reporting. The Republican party AND the mainstream media needs this to be a close race.
Sen. Barack Obama is leaps and bounds a much better statesman than both his contenders. Stand tall Barack Obama, stand tall!

Posted by: ToySoldier | May 3, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Nice shot Ted, you another one of the Obamamites that think 18 cents a gallon of gas is no break when you can’t even afford the price of a gallon, anyway? why don’t you address the issue of why you have to make personel attacks instead of telling us what the new politics of hope are? I am sure someone would want to know.And, don’t come up with a new way of doing things tell us what this new way is, if you know?

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Great Post John Gault.

Posted by: tukss | May 3, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

obama’s new politics: Ted Kennedy,John Kerry, Maria Shriver, and Andrews. Plus the back stabbing Richardson. Sounds like Politics as usual to me. If your known by the comapny you keep obama is the same as any politician. Kinda like Mitt Romney. Have nothing to say: Run ads and buy the nomination.

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

tukss, I agree Obama is a liar and divisive. He left his church in shambles and I’m afraid he will do this to our great country.

Posted by: Ernie | May 3, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Obama – “let them eat cake” attitude is disgusting. He is so far left field, he is out of the park. I can see that affirmative action education, all mouth, no judgement. Only a fool would not want a 18 cent decrease in gas tax for a few months.

Posted by: Abe | May 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

$30 dollars. Are You people stupid. You want Her Judgment at 3 a.m. Please don’t make another BUSH mistake!!!!!

Posted by: tukss | May 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

$30 dollars. Are You people stupid. You want Her Judgment at 3 a.m. Please don’t make another BUSH mistake!!!!!

Posted by: tukss | May 3, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

Sharpened her attack. OH, is the babybama mad again that someone is questioning his majesty? Get over it. This is politics, she’s differentiating herself, he does it too.

Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Bush should hope that Obama is elected. He is the only candidate who will have a lower approval rating once he is in office.

Posted by: whrn | May 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

TedDaddy,
Where did I single out Wright? I didn’t. It’s about his JUDGMENT! You Obamabots are “stuck on stupid”.(to quote the good ‘ol Reverend.)

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Obama has voted for a gas tax holiday many times in the past. Now, he is against it. Sounds like a flip-flopper, maybe he should ask Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Akitisha | May 3, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

TedDaddy:
I heard that Obama speech, it was stolen from George Bush. Once is enough on that “change”.

Posted by: Art | May 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

TedDaddy:
What’s important is what they did once WE got them in. Besides really good economy which by the way was really partly due to Bush1′s programs. Everything else the Clintons did was shameful. The lies never stopped coming. They attacked and alianated our own Democrats. They started this healthcare thing, a good idea. But it must be Hillary’s way or no way. So the Republican’s fought back and won that debate, The Republicans then went durther and took their case to the American people and won again in 1994. We lost control of both houses and the Clinton’s nightmere began. We defended and stood with that fool. How stupid of us.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

TedDaddy:
I heard that Obama speech, it was stolen from George Bush. Once is enough on that “change”.

Posted by: Art | May 3, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

I am a BO supporter and I WILL be voting for McCain if this liar and divisive person Hi-LIE_ry wins (by hook or crook).
Anyone that supports her tactics is Stupid to me. How can you all not see through an .18 cent discount. Remember in Hills world a WIN is A WIN. Hows that for clarity?

Posted by: tukss | May 3, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

TedDaddy,
I’ve listened to him “umm ummm ahh umm. Reminds me of Elmer Fudd.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

TedDaddy:
What’s important is what they did once WE got them in. Besides really good economy, which by the way, was really partly due to Bush1′s programs. Everything else the Clintons did was shameful. The lies never stopped coming. They attacked and alienated our own Democrats. They started this healthcare thing, a good idea. But it must be Hillary’s way or no way. So the Republican’s fought back and won that debate, The Republicans then went further and took their case to the American people and won again in 1994. We lost control of both houses and the Clinton’s nightmare began. We defended and stood with that fool. How stupid of us.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

READY999:
Please read, the loss of tax on the gas tax holiday will come from stopping big oil tax incentives. The oil companies should not be receiving tax incentives when getting record profits. This was a republican action, rewarding the rich oil companies. Thank God for Hillary !!!

Posted by: Abe | May 3, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Hey people, if you are a trucker, and you drive hundreds of miles a day, the gas price being lowered .18 cents is very significant to you. If you are an independant business, and the price of gas is about to bankrupt you (as you can’t really pass this cost on to your customers in a bad economy), that break could be a livesaver.
IF you are the average family, it could amount to pay for a few more groceries, or a meal out on the night your kids have soccer practice, or it could pay your monthly water bill. Not to mention the overall cost reductions you’ll see in GOODS that are MOVED by truck and also are directly suseptible to the price of gas. Ever wonder why groceries go up when gas does? Further, if you have any upcoming travel by car this summer, it could make the difference in affording the vacation, or not going. For those of us who work are tails off all year, vacations, even little cheap ones, are all some of us have to look forward to with our kids.
If you are a rich, latte sipping Obama liberal, you can use yours at Starbucks, okay? The rest of us appreciate ACTION, rather than WORDS and PLATITUDES. We’ll take the break. Thank you very much.

Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 3, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

@TedDaddy
Only a mentally challanged or dope head would believe a story like that. Rev. Wright was his uncle, mentor, friend, spiritual advisor and campaign religious advisor. If Obama did not see through that nut case in 20 years, he is brain dead.

Posted by: BOBCAT | May 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Ted, what are the politics of hope? What are the Politics of change? I suspect I have listened to him a lot more that you have. You seem to find substance in a void. Just give me something to change my mind Ted, anything. Like: lets take the vote away from the States and end nominations when one person can a tiny lead? Is that the change he represents? Maybe change the voting age to 15? Anything? What changes Ted? What new hope?

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Even Rev, Wright was not altogether wrong. His problem is that, like Farrakhan, he makes a few salient points and then he farts a few windy flies over it making it difficult for one to support him.
Farrakhan got a million men to march. When they got there he told them that the Sphinx in Egypt was black until Napoleon shot its Afro nose off. What a cop out.. So we all left and went to the airport feeling very dejected.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Rev. Wright was only speaking the teachings of Black Theology. The real question is why is Obama still a member of this church? They have a new pastor but are still teaching Blach Theology. How sad that he is bringing his children up with such hate. Obviously, it’s to late for Michelle.

Posted by: Confused | May 3, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

As a student who is actually studying the economics and been during research studying the holiday gas tax folks. Actually Hillary is right about the holiday gas tax where it will save average americans $30 to $35 dollars. It is boiled down to choices that we have to make everyday. Especially, food cost are rising at the same time gas is going up.
Hillary will push for a holiday gas tax to help everyone in the short term while hillary will go after the OIL COMPANIES who are trying to bankrupt all americans who cant afford food and gas at the same time.
With McCain he wants the same thing but instead of going after oil companies he wants to dip into the cash reserves of the government and it will put us further into debt with China.
Whereas Obama, he is totally clueless and has no plan at all to give us a break from the gas tax. So what is his plan? OBAMA better be honest then. If Obama cannot give us an idea like the gas tax break then for the summer. Then all of the Americans will end up broke and have a difficult of choosing gas or food but cant have both. Then americans will either sacrifice food for gas so they can get to work or purchasing food instead of buying gas. I believe Hillary is a real true fighter for the americans.

Posted by: David | May 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

TedDaddy,
OMG why do you people have to lie? He did not denounce Rev. Wright’s comments from the beginning. He supposedly never heard them, then he did. Don’t believe everything you hear.
Now, where in my first post did I single out Wright? Ayers and Rezko are real upstanding citizens.
Obama is a fraud and a liar. It wasn’t until he lost PA and the white vote that he denounced his nutcase, racist pastor. His freakin book was something to do with Wright. Don’t think people are that stupid that he didn’t know Wright spewed stuff like that.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

TedDaddy,
By the way ObamaLiar, that pastor was originally from CLINTON, NY not Clinton’s ex pastor.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I know what Obama is against but I have never heard what he is for.

Posted by: GerryW | May 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

a reader in georgia, I’m not rich nor do I drink latte. But I am smart enough to know a bad deal when I see it. Pease do the research. I think everyone is tired of explaining why it won’t work.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Ted Daddy:
I am not a Clintonite. I am from the Obamaland. But it appears you are a neocon.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

TedDaddy,
Are you working for Obama? Did you drink the Kool-Aid?
Remember, JIm Jones and his Kool-aid. Obama mixes the same kind of kool-aid and then he has supporters.

Posted by: carlson | May 3, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

@ David,
You are correct, sounds like a good idea. I think Obama is waiting on rev. wright’s reasoning…

Posted by: cindy in Jacksonville | May 3, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Hey Ted Daddy, Hillary has laid out how she’s pay for the temporary gas tax holiday. It wouldn’t come from Highway funds so stop with the stupid strawman argument. Get it, it’s TEMPORARY and SHORT TERM, and isn’t all she’s suggesting. She knows we need long term changes too, but this is something our stupid inept leadership could do NOW that would positively effect working people, some of whom are choosing food or transportation. Again, I am sick of all talk an NO ACTION. Sick of speeches and platitudes, I want ACTION.

Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 3, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Michelle Obama was very disrespectful to the people attending the “family picnic” in Noblesville, Indiana today. They were trying to make it like they’re just normal people but it backfired.

Posted by: Chris | May 3, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Just how many truckers are they, compared to the general population? Over 90 percent of the population are not truckers. Go screw your head on right.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

Whats really a scram is the people on here that don’t want a tax break on gasoline because some economist say its bad. Duh. It’s not like 90% of them aren’t working for; or working with, companies associated with the Big Oil Companies. Good luck, you can sit at home and wait for Mr. Hope to save you while those fine young canibals drive their SUV’s and send their kids to Havard. I’ll take the tax break. It might stave off further rises in food prices if the truckers who need it most get the break. There is your real America: hard working men and women trying to make ends meet, get an education for their children, and maybe even take a weekend off every now and then. Ameica is not the bastion of the elitest jerks that don’t know what thirty dollars is.

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

100% correct ==>
“She’s better talking about the gas tax. If she was serious she would be sponsoring a bill.
She won’t though because it would fail and she would then be seen as ineffective. Its so much easier to just talk about what you could do and not really mean it,like people from Washington like to do.”
heck, it’s this summer B4 the election – not like she can guarantee voters this yet they’re still buying it!?!? $.18 break (basically $.25-.60 per day savings per citizen and thousands of lost jobs) with NO future solution to fix the actual PROBLEM

Posted by: chris | May 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

TedDaddy; I am for helping the mentally challenged, but please get an adult to explain things to you. After reading the blogs, you need help.

Posted by: Jake in FL | May 3, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm

Yeah and those Clintonites are countering your lies with the truth!

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Obama supporters know that Clinton’s gas tax proposal would be funded by oil campanies windfall profits but like McCains “100 years” in Iraq statement they like to distort the truth. To bad the good rev wright helped smoke him out. Game over!

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

Cars don’t run on hope and change.

Posted by: Mack | May 3, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

Mack,
No they run on Obama Kool aid…lol

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

It is sad, the Obama nuts repeat his stupid reasoning about the holiday for gas tax. I will explain it to you. (If the words are difficult, look in the dictionary.) It is temporary, the monies lost will come from tax incentive money given to big oil. This is not a permanent fix. Big Oil has had huge record profits and do not deserve tax incentives. Now, Obama has you againt tax cuts, talk about blind followers…

Posted by: Josh | May 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Obama should stick to discussing topics he knows something about – like cocaine.

Posted by: Jeff | May 3, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Dang Ted, all i want to know is what are the changes obama is seeking, what is the hope he is promising? Listen the man is talented, nice looking in a gay sorta way, and fill of charisma. I really like listening to him a lotta times it keeps my from taking Nyquil, thus helping me save up for my next gallon of gas. But, I have never heard him say anything that makes me believe his new hope is anything but: “Here’s hoping I can eventually come up with something that is new.” Of course, he then turns around and confers with, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. Much as I like the idea of change I just don’t see Ted Kennedy and John Kerry ramrodding change. So tell me, what is the change obama seeks?

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Dang Ted, all i want to know is what are the changes obama is seeking, what is the hope he is promising? Listen the man is talented, nice looking in a gay sorta way, and fill of charisma. I really like listening to him a lotta times it keeps my from taking Nyquil, thus helping me save up for my next gallon of gas. But, I have never heard him say anything that makes me believe his new hope is anything but: “Here’s hoping I can eventually come up with something that is new.” Of course, he then turns around and confers with, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. Much as I like the idea of change I just don’t see Ted Kennedy and John Kerry ramrodding change. So tell me, what is the change obama seeks?

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Too bad that can’t run on hate. Never ending supply of that over at Trinity.

Posted by: Mack | May 3, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Huh,
I found out the best way to shut up an Obama supporter is to throw facts at them.

Posted by: J | May 3, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

@ Josh,
Good One!
I’ll take the money from gas tax repeal, it’s better than nonthing. Obama is out-of-touch with real Americans.

Posted by: Johnny m | May 3, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm

davd @10:43 that was an excellent, well thought out post.

Posted by: Beau | May 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

READY999:
Do you work for the gas companies? Obama has received almost a million in support from oil executives. But, this money would not sway his opinion. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
Obama is a real h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e.

Posted by: Les | May 3, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

@ J
Your right, confuse them with the facts.

Posted by: Malcom | May 3, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Johnny m and Josh, please do the research on the gas tax instead of believing Hillary blindly. Obama is right on this.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

@ TedDaddy & READY999
It is sad, when you open your mouth (blog), you remove all doubt about how stupid you are…

Posted by: BOBCAT | May 3, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

Only a racist and close-minded person would call Sen. Obama a bigot. I’m white, and sadly, we have some white folks in this country who just plain despise anyone who doesn’t look and think like them. That’s how Clinton keeps winning the so-called blue collar votes – by appealing to the worst instincts in people and capitalizing on them for her own gain.
Her husband nearly destroyed the Democratic party and saw the house and the senate go to the GOP. She’s even more polarizing than he is, so if, God forbid, she was to get elected, NOTHING would get accomplished except we’d see the house and the senate go back to the GOP.
yeah, these people are fighters all right – for themselves and what beneifts them.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Girgadis | May 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Nichol
All Losers,John Kerry,Bill Richardson,
Tom Daschell, Bill Bradley, Chris Dodd are supporting Obama.

Posted by: anwar | May 3, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Bobcat, did Ted and Ready touch a nerve. Are they stupid because they disagree with you. I haven’t read this entire blog so I am curious why you would call them stupid.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Obama’s tv add in Indiana says “together we can change the world”. He couldn’t even change his church but somehow he can change the world – and this is change I can believe in? He caved in to the nuclear industry in Illinois and yet he says he will standup to the healthcare and oil industries. At what point does common sense kick in.

Posted by: Jack | May 3, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

lisa:
Hillary discussed in detail, her plan regarding the holiday gas tax on the on the News channel. This was a live broadcast. Obama has endorsed many holidays on gas tax in the past, since Hillary was on the ball, he done a flip flop, again. If it wasn’t for Hillary, Obama would not have an agenda.

Posted by: Johnny m | May 3, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Hillary, please leave the democrat party and switch to the Republican party already. If you run like a Republican, you should become one! And please take your femiNazi’s with you. Your the last person who should be judging others for their associations. Bye, bye, shillary.

Posted by: John | May 3, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Who owns Obama besides the big oil companies? Obama has such a boatload of dirty friends……drip…drip if that boat springs a leak…watch out. Look at Rezko on trial right now. Rezko, as a real estate magnate in Chicago, was given a contract for 3 energy plants to be built in Iraq…. through our government. The plants were never built because Rezko got indicted, but NO DOUBT that Senator Obama helped Rezko GET that contract for Rezko. Not to mention that Axelrod was a lobbyist for Exelon (and the later nuclear legislation with no teeth), or that much of the $$$ loans came through General Electric Financial. Who have been large contributors to Obama’s campaigns, General Electric and Exelon! Who owns one of the largest loan insurance and credit card companies in America, General Electric. Who voted for unlimited credit limits and voted against a 30% cap on credit cards? Obama! Obama said he voted against the 30% cap because it was too high. Apparently NO cap is better than a cap that’s too high. Who owns NBC and MSNBC the home of all anti-Hillary all the time? General Electric! Who owns Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Andrea Mitchell? General Electric! Who owns Tim Russert? General Electric! Who is currently doing business in Iran? General Electric! Obama says he wants to sit down and talk with Ahmedinejad – so General Electric can do more business in Iran? Who is Obama looking out for – the people? NO! The big oil companies and General Electric and Exelon!

Posted by: rs | May 3, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

This is to all the fools who are threatening to vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee:
Your candidate IS a Republican in a Democrat’s clothes. So if you support Hillary, you ARE voting for a Republican.
If you are voting for Hillary because you want to see a female president, ask yourself this: what kind of mother sends other people’s kids to die in a senseless war?
If Clinton somehow manages to pull off the nomination, I won’t be voting for her OR McCain – there’s very little difference between the two of them.
Obama all the way!

Posted by: Girgadis | May 3, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

lisa,
Their facts are incorrect. They seem to be paid Obama bloggers. If you have read the enteries, this is an accepted conclusion. Are you an Obama paid blogger? Their are about 175 Obama bloggers on the payroll.

Posted by: BOBCAT | May 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

You people are a little dense its you not Hillary that needs to leave the Deomocratic party go get your own party The left and a few Republican troublemakers will not hijack this nomination process!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Well, Due to my low-class standard of living and my lack of higher education, Would someone with higher class and better education from HOPE and CHANGE camp please expalin to me how the 25% proposed increase in capital gain would benefit me? Most of all, the Global Poverty Act ( S.2433) sponsored by the Almighty OBAMA would not hurt me? I am along with all other Americans would be resposible for .7 percent of the GDP as welfare gift to third world country and you all know where the majority of that $84,000,000,000.00 will be going to, NOT for this land of America ! Hospitality needs to be at home first.

Posted by: mtr2311 | May 3, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Bobcat
I know paid Obama bloggers ar on this site Obama will be defeated then investigated for election fruaud!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Girgadis,
What kind of parents would let their children associate with Rev. Wright? The Obama’s actually took their children to church to hear Rev. G D America. The Obama’s should be investigated for child abuse.

Posted by: Simon C. | May 3, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Girgadis
its fools like you that shouldnt be allowed to vote!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Simon, I agree 100%. Where is child welfare?

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Simon
Thats wright child abuse and several other felonies noticed Michelle tried to be his lawyer when meridith Vierra interviewed him about Wright today!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Girgadis:
Your wrong, it’s Hillary or Ralph Nader.

Posted by: Sean | May 3, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Ready999
Hillary doesnt pay people to do that only Ill-Prepared amateurs throw up smoke screens

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Isn’t it strange how facts scare the Obama nuts!!!

Posted by: BOBCAT | May 3, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Ok Bobcat how do you know there are 175 paid Obama bloggers on here. And how do I get that job. And couldn’t you say the same thing about Hillary bloggers. I just wanted to know why you were calling them stupid.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Sean
Thats right Obama will lose and try to run as an independant but he will be stopped

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

hibbiejibbies, I think that it says that regardless of what Clinton does for the party and all of it’s politics, we the American people who are Hillary supporters have no political agenda and don’t feel that we have to follow the party lines. It’s all about the candidate and not the party.
I for one don’t feel that Barack Obama has enough experience to be Commander In Chief, we are just winding up the training period that we spent with the last Commander In Chief we don’t have time for that nonsense again. These are desperate times that call for a capable and dedicated leader. Something that Hillary showed in their last debate, he should that he wasn’t ready for the challenge in that last debate. She inspires the nation with her continous comebacks regardless of how bias the media is and how hard some of the “Old Political Democratic Hacks” are trying to derail her campaign. She continues to display the “American Spirit” to fight for the right to compete.

Posted by: shalabalaboo | May 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Lisa
because its fairly obvious they dont try to hide it or are to stupid not to look like it

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

I see there are 2 lisa’s here. I hate that.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Obamas should have said we tried the tax on 3 different times in Illinois and it made little to no difference for people. Instead he says it will cost several thousand jobs and I for one have combed Illinois archives news etc and find no proof of that. I call that pandering to fears of people who worry daily about redundancy, mortgages etc. to win votes. Clinton should have said we need to fix this and not offer an ineffective panacea of a holiday tax. This too was playing to the working class fears on taxes and rising fuel prices ahead of vacation time.
I have heard only one simple logical comment on this gas tax thing and it was Michael Bloomberg
“It’s about the dumbest thing I’ve heard in an awful long time, from an economic point of view. We’re trying to discourage people from driving and we’re trying to end our energy dependence … and we’re trying to have more money to build infrastructure…. The 30 bucks is not going to change anybody’s lifestyle. The billions of dollars that we would otherwise have in tax revenues can make a big difference as to what kind of a world we leave our children”
Imagine if just one of our politicans spoke that simply and clearly no BS comments to try and play on fears.
Thats what you get holding a popularity contest.

Posted by: me thinks | May 3, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Um their are no catholics in this race ready;)

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

According to some of you if I were to vote for Hillary then I must be a secret Republican–well if that’s really the case (by your logic no less) then why in the world would you think I would have a problem with voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination? See how your logic just doesn’t make sense?

Posted by: My two cents | May 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

@ staniam
I have seen bloggers on various sites admit they are paid Obama bloggers.

Posted by: BOBCAT | May 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Clinton can change sharpen her attacks all she wants but the Clinton campaign ended when she lied about Bosnia. Of all the exaggerations any American candidate can make, to fake heroism on a battlefield, to lie about dodging bullets, for all of those true heroes who were on the battlefields, some of whom dodged real bullets, some of whom took them, she has dishonored their brave service. For those who have helped Veterans recover from the horrors of the bullets on the battlefield, or have lived with family wounded and disabled by those bullets, Hillary’s repeated “misstatements” are unforgivable. They are in fact – Dishonor – that is worse than any lie!

Posted by: bob10001 | May 3, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Wright was Obama’s beloved pastor for 20 years. He starts to loose the white vote and poof Wright is this evil person. I would be mad as hell if I were Wright.

Posted by: Gerry | May 3, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Bobcat
like the Obama Blogger in chief the big black guy on CNN hes the dumbest one of all!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Simon C
Sincy Trinity has a Sunday school and childcare, and since the younger Obama child is only 6 years old and the sermon was 7 years ago, I highly doubt either child heard it. But for the record, I’m much more offended by a president who has sex with a young girl in the Oval Office while his family is nearby and then wags his filthy finger in my face and insists he’s not lying. And how old was Chelsea when Bill was carrying on with Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers on the taxpayer’s dime?
And by the way, why hasn’t Chelsea enlisted in her mother’s war yet?

Posted by: Girgadis | May 3, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Gerry
Axelrod probably will prevent Wright to speak again one way or another you heard Obama say that its going to be chicago style politics we need to put a stop to that!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Come on, I am all ear waiting to be enlightened by the higher educated and higher class OBAMA supporters regarding the proposed 25% increase in Capital Gain would do some good the already slow-down economy and also the impact of OBAMA proposed Global Poverty Act ( s.2433) on my low-life standard of living along with other American.

Posted by: mtr2311 | May 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Girgadis
the Ken Starr stuff didnt work for you in the 90s its not gonna work now! THe clintons are infinitely more honorable than what you are trying to do for Obama and you are goign to abandon him in the GE anyway you people dont think straight!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

IS CHRIS MATTHEWS OF HARDBALL, A RACIST????
I have noticed everyday for the last two weeks Chris Matthrews on Hardball has brought up the Rev Wright Controversy without exception. Other media outlets have dropped this subject but not Mr Matthrews. So Mr. Matthrews, If you dont drop this issue I can come to only one conclusion…. Chris Matthrews is racist. He continues to ignore the Blunders and Bill Clinton and drops the issue of the Columbian trade matters regarding Mark Pen and Bill Clinton in one day. SO Mr Matthrews, Are you Racist? I feel I must ask this question till you become far and balanced and Unequivocally State for the record that you in fact or not Racist.

Posted by: spoon2456 | May 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Ready 999, I don’t know where you’re living but I haven’t seen that in the headlines for years, so you should probably let it go and move on. There’s other issues in the world that you should be concerned with. I noticed that you didn’t mention anything about the Republican congressmen that stepped down for molesting the Pages on Capitol Hill. Or happening upon a Republican Senator lurking in the stalls of the mensroom at an airport or wherever.
Actually enrollment at the Catholic schools is up by more than 15%.

Posted by: shalabalaboo | May 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Ready 999, I don’t know where you’re living but I haven’t seen that in the headlines for years, so you should probably let it go and move on. There’s other issues in the world that you should be concerned with. I noticed that you didn’t mention anything about the Republican congressmen that stepped down for molesting the Pages on Capitol Hill. Or happening upon a Republican Senator lurking in the stalls of the mensroom at an airport or wherever.
Actually enrollment at the Catholic schools is up by more than 15%.

Posted by: shalabalaboo | May 3, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

If Obama loses, so will Hillary. I guarrantee it.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

mtr2311
Obama pretends not to know about capitol gains cause he wants to preserve his way of life he says he has street cred theres not a thing about him that doesnt say affluent efette and elite!

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

READY999:
Let’s confuse you with the facts.
If in the Catholic schools, this was in the open, the parents would have acted accordingly. In Rev. GD America situation, over 20 years, in front of God and membership, and on DVD, Obama was clueless. Are you and/or Obama anti-Catholic?

Posted by: Simon C. | May 3, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Ted Daddy:
We cool.

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Gilis
Well I dont care if Mccain beats Hillary cause he will dry you Republican nuts crazy for 4 yrs

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

I like when Obama talks with his “black” voice. That gives me goosebumps.

Posted by: lisa | May 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Simon C
A theology professor was interviewed about Wright and said he had religious debates with him and Black Liberation Theology is borrowed from Marxist theory and there is a marxist symbol in Obamas campaign posters etc

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

Michelle Obama said: “We would like to move on if the media would let us.”
The media said: “If we can’t talk about Rev. Wright or criticize Obama we won’t write or talk about Obama either.”

Posted by: Gillis | May 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

@david 10:43… nice post but not thought out very well
first, $35 gas savings is not going to bankrupt people or make them choose between gas or food. (she neither sponsors the bill nor has a direct impact other than voting as it’s before November elections). Hundreds of economists/environmentalists have already proven it’s a bad “solution” – additionally, the oil suppliers will just hike up the cost $.18 anyway or people will spend the $35 savings on a product “made in China” at Walmart.
second, ok, so Hillary will go after the big oil companies (and face MANY legal battles as you can’t really target one industry like that so – so any changes will occur yeeaars down the road and cause prices to increase to PAY for the legal battle) and still makes us dependent on foreign oil/energy (with increasing China/India demand, oil will just continue to increase in price)
third, Obama has given long term solutions where as Hillary has not other than single out and attack oil companies? why the bias in your analysis? His solutions include billions in alternative energy sources, research, higher mpg vehicles etc. (all mean US job creation) Hillary doesn’t emphasize this much, if at all, so under her plan we’ll be competing with India/China for oil 10 yrs from now rather than be independent.
Hillary’s solution is a bandaid – do a thorough and unbiased analysis and you will see it’s clear as day.

Posted by: chris | May 3, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

The first candidate to mention the gas holiday was McCain, HRC picked that up from MCCain’s speech, saying the American people deserved a little help this summer. So she can’t take credit for that one. Obama is not wanting to give the gas tax to the Public, because how many more bridges have to fall before we catch on, that we need to fix our infrastructure.

Posted by: Willow | May 3, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Lisa
that jus proves hes a fake cause he doesnt talk like that normally he reminds me of the Black officer in Beverly Hills Cop years ago”I aint fallin for no banana in my tailpipe”

Posted by: staniam | May 3, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

Hillary is the consumate politician. Much like George Bush did, she is playing to people who do not think the issues through in any great detail. A “gas holiday” will simply be swallowed up by the big oil companies. The average consumer will see absolutely no benefit. The “gas holiday” makes almost as much sense as blaming Obama for something his pastor said. Maybe we should discuss whether Bush and Clinton are both Methodists (I believe they are, and I also believe the Methodist Church does not support their war policies). Did anyone care that they were not in line with their church’s position? Did anyone suggest that they stop being Methodists? This debate is not about issues, it is about “swiftboating” Obama. He is elitist? I don’t have my PhD, but I recognize a political stunt when I see it, and that is what the McCain/Clinton “gas tax holiday” is.

Posted by: Laurel1181 | May 4, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

OMG I am not the Lisa that talks about Obama using his black voice. She is such a racist.

Posted by: lisa d | May 4, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Staniam:
I have almost survived Bush. I think I can survive McCain. At least, he can work across the isle, unlike Hillary.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Gilis
Michelle said they want to move off of it because its relevant and she knows it wil justifiably hurt him thats why she looked like shed sen a ghost the day after wright was at the press club

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Gilis well I can survive Mccain but if Obama gets the nomination it will be mccain

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

So let’s talk about Hillary using different accents depending on what state she is in. What the woman will do to win.

Posted by: erin | May 4, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Ready999
My children go to a Roman Catholic school and I have no qualms. They are no more in harms way than any other school in fact in todays society they are probably protected from more.
Your comment reeks of ignorance. There are hundreds of kind and honest Catholic priests throughout the world and you choose to focus on the unforgivable deeds of less than half a per cent.
Do your homework and find out that such evil is perpetrated by many different people from many walks of life. What about the number of clergymen in other religions who have failed our young over the decades – Protestant, Baptist, Episcopalian, Mormon even Jewish and Muslim etc etc.
Then look at cubs and boy scouts. Then look at school teachers and sports coaches. What about some childcare workers and social workers and lets not forget some foster families!
If you have no basis of fact other than a headline don’t open your mouth and sprout off such rot and try to pass it off as an informed comment. There are Catholic priests who are responsible for such heinous acts I will not deny that, but to lump everyone in together and hold them up as the worst of the worst is just plain ridiculous.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Sam:
the media is now squarely on Clinton’s side. Every news outlet acts as if Obama is not even in the race any more. “Clinton attacks ..” “Clinton said …”, Clinton rips…”, “Clinton pledges ….” So why don’t they just come out and say it.
“Vote Clinton for president we love her diviciveness, makes us relevant.”

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Laurel
she also talked about a windfall profits tax Obama wont go for that either because thats his profits

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

GerryW, Are you deaf?

Posted by: tukss | May 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

Girgadis, you wrote: But for the record, I’m much more offended by a president who has sex with a young girl in the Oval Office while his family is nearby and then wags his filthy finger in my face and insists he’s not lying. And how old was Chelsea when Bill was carrying on with Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers on the taxpayer’s dime?
And by the way, why hasn’t Chelsea enlisted in her mother’s war yet?
______________________________________
Why are you so offended, is it because you weren’t the young lady??? Who cares about that? I guess you are so saintly, well you need to let it go and move on, that’s what it is about you Obama supporters, you always want to dwell on the past. Practice what you preach “Change” move on, be like Hillary and try to make this world a better place.
And the comment about Chelsea elisting in the armed services???? Hello, have you enlisted? What about Obama, as a man he’s never enlisted in any armed service in his life. Hello….It’s not Hillary’s war. WOW… I didn’t realize that Hillary is so powerful that she was able to get this whole war started. You must be one of the uneducated voters for Obama.

Posted by: Clinton's rule | May 4, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

To Staniam, I have never had a chance to finish the MBA program and I am not living in a mansion, just a regular house in gated community but being a Hillary supporter, I am tired of being classified as low-life and uneducated person by some of the OBAMA supporters. For those OBAMA supporters, if you don’t know what the Capital Gain is and how it works or what the heck is the Global Poverty Act which sponsored by OBAMA, please do some google. Reading for comprehension is better than chanting some non-sense empty words.

Posted by: mtr2311 | May 4, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Gilis
You are just scared that Hillary might win the Republicans and Obamabots have different motives but they are going to mutually destruct!

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Staniam:
That’s an impass. Change your mind, will you?

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

nice try staniam but I voted twice for Bill Clinton and I actually thnk he did a lot of good for the country. But the Clintons are now calling the shots straight out of the Karl Rove handbook, including cozying up to Richard Mellon Scaife and Faux News and the rest of the Right Wing hit squad. So if the Rev. Wright is fair game, so is Bill’s philandering and so are all the scandals and controversies that have erupted since he left the White House. Especially all the money he’s made from foreign countries to further their economies at the expense of ours.
A vote for Hillary is a vote to give Bush a third term. No thanks.

Posted by: Girgadis | May 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

staniam:
Did you see that Rev. unWright supported the communists in central America. Just think, some of Obama’s money went ot help communists. Obama’s past has come back to bite him in the a@@.

Posted by: Simon C. | May 4, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Mtr2311
Yea I was in a bookstore this morening and overheard a clerk telling someone that she just finished her MBA and no ojne will give her a jobn because she has a masters funny thats how Bush got to be president thats all he did

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

The AP is reporting that black voters in Indiana are upset that Obama has ignored them and they may be staying home on tuesday. Stay tuned!

Posted by: Bob | May 4, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Girgadis
well Hillary would be able to actually do something a lot better than Bush no matter what the ideology the guy just rides bikes in a funny hat all day

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Of course, I am scared that America will throw away a rare oppotunity to not only solve all the problems Hillary is talking about, but also unite this country. People don’t like unity. Discord, hate, and disagreements are all old politics. Can’t we have it all?

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am

Simon
Yea I heard that in the interview this morning .. I think that was when Obama was in his church… hmmmmmmm:)

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

READY999:
It is very sad when people like you ruin some intersting conversation with nonsense.

Posted by: cindy in Jacksonville | May 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! You people are so screwed up! Canada has universal healthcare, no one is waiting for a kidney, the country isn’t broke, our economy is booming, it’s beautiful here, EUROPE LOVES US, and eventually…your STUPID NOMINATION MIGHT GET US BLOWN UP WE’LL HAVE TO COME IN A SAVE YOUR BUTTS AGAIN! Open your eyes, take your fingers out of your ears and stop going “I’m not listening…” and realize that Obama is not GOD, not vice president of God, not a messenger from God. He is however, the BEST political speaker since Canada had Mulroney. Obama can speak for hours and say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!! ps: That ‘puppy dog…”stop picking on me…waaah waaah” thing’ is enough to make me want to reach into the tv and grab Mr. Whippity-whipped by Michelle little momma’s baby by the neck.

Posted by: Elaine Frizell | May 4, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Gilis
well Obama cant do all that hes a little hapless if you know what I mean

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am

A vote for Hillary is a vote for what wrong with A m e r i c a !

Posted by: t.v.eddie | May 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

I am SO tired of hearing the pundits sing the song that the superdelegates don’t dare “take away the nomination” from Obama. Immediately they speak to how angry the his supporters would be. Well, I have news for the media pundits….Hillary’s supporters won’t be any less angry!! Maybe more so! I fear that race again is being used in a subliminal manner – Obama doesn’t get as much of the white vote as he does the black vote. Results of all the caucuses and primaries bear this out. We need the person who can and WILL beat John McCain and that person is Hillary Clinton! Let’s come to our senses!

Posted by: Jon | May 4, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Elaine
THats what I was saying she wears the pants or the paintsuit!

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

In this day and age and this election cycle, Obama is the only real person in this race.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Gillis; The democratic party was doing great until Obama/Wright ruined the party.

Posted by: Richard in Orange Park | May 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Elaine, please calm down.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

John
Its down to 51 percent that think Obama will be nominated so if Hillary wins NC by 2 percent? sounds like new hampshire to me:)

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Liz Taylor endorses Hillary. Bad news for Hillary. Liz once told us that MJ is an Ok guy too.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Clinton’s rule:
Why would I enlist in a war I oppose? Sen Clinton voted for the war and her daughter is out there on the campaign trail for her mother while other people’s kids are dying for her mother’s mistake. Just like Bush, she has yet to apologize for what has been a colossal blunder.
And for the record, you don’t need the apostrophe – it should be Clintons Rule.
Thankfully, they don’t, because this isn’t a monarcy.

Posted by: girgadis | May 4, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am

ready99 you really don’t use facts in forming an opinion do you ????
Hillary is a United Methodist………..
but hey just keep talking more unsubstantited rubbish it dos wonders for your credibility.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Monarchy

Posted by: girgadis | May 4, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Hillary has more votes tha BO, therefore; the nomination should be hers. If Obama was an honorable man, he would resign. If the democrats loose in November, due to Obama, we all loose.

Posted by: Simon C. | May 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Gilis
Real person? Bill Clinton and even Hillary for that matter know how to be genuine more than Obama can even imagine he is smart but that shouldnt get you elected president Bush didnt have to be:)

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Richard in Orange Park:
No, the party was on life support until Obama sparked something in the 2004 convention.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Did you see Obama bowling? He looked a little light in his loafers.

Posted by: Jerry | May 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Simon
Hes still in the race because of Howard Dean and all those people that have no idea what they are doing

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Jerry
yea nobody bowls in a tie lol

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Dynasty…..Bush,Clinton, Bush, Clinton. *sigh* Please no more.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

READY999,
The more you talk, the more votes for Hillary. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: cindy in Jacksonville | May 4, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Clinton’s foes throw around the world “polarizing” like the proverbial stones from their glass houses… Rev. Wright/Obama aren’t polarizing? Come on, be real!

Posted by: april | May 4, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

McCain can be real. Hillary is a doll. No life. Very fake.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am

One thing is clear in this election, Howard Dean must go!

Posted by: Condi | May 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

staniam what people are you referring to that have no idea what they are doing.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Hey
Yea the United Methodists in Western NC are going to put Hillary over the top it was no accident that Chelsea went to a united Methodist Church here last Sunday

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

I don’t hate the Clintons. I hate their politics tho. So, I won’t vote for them ever again.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

Lisa
Dean and all the DNC people that tried to get Obama into the race because they were greedy.. the DLC should be runnign the show .. guess who heads that Harold Ford jr

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

Gilis
fine as long as you dont accidently elect Obama lol

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

The buzz is so strong for Clinton in Indiana. People have become so anti-Obama based on the way he treated his pastor and church.

Posted by: Jason | May 4, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

staniam:
Howard Dean, Gov. Richardson and many others are being promised appointments in the Obama adminstration. As you know Gov. Richardson is the VP choice, if BO gets the nomination. What’s the old saying, for 30 peices of silver…

Posted by: Simon C. | May 4, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

I am Methodist and I hate Clinton politics.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Simon
Yea they ridicule ol James Carville for saying that but hes right and the most brilliant strategist the dems ever had and got Clinton elected twice Richardson is an ingrate that would still be in congress if not for the clintons … Cheney would still be in congress if not for the Bushes!

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am

staniam, how were they greedy, please explain.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Stanium…………
I am sorry if you thought I was having a dig at United Methodists. On the contrary, I am not speaking ill of any religion. I am pointing out how someone here waffles alot with no knowledge or fact.
There is good and evil in everything and in most religions good far outweighs the bad.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Staniam:
I will accidentally elect McCain if you accidentally nominate Hillary.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Gillis:
Maybe Rev. unWright will give Obama last rites for his campaign and save the democratic party.

Posted by: Richard in Orange Park | May 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Gilis
ah wel my dads a methodist minister and he as well as I tried to steer clear of his parishoners that didnt see the light

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

HRC, you truly take the cake with this trial balloon of a gas tax “holiday”! It’s obvious to anyone with half an ounce of sense that all you’re doing with this idea is pandering. Temporarily removing the gas tax is hardly going to fix anybody’s wounds. You know it, and anybody familiar with your plan knows it. It will simply give some people enough gas money to be able to drive their car to the bank when they sign their foreclosure papers. What makes this plan so contemptible is that you’re clearly trying to gain support from people who think this plan is going to provide them with some kind of windfall, not realizing that your gas tax “holiday” will amount to less than $20 in their pockets. Since you and Slick have succeeded in fooling the public before, I imagine you may be able to do it again here. But in the words of Michael Bloomberg, “It’s just about the dumbest thing.”
I, do, however give you kudos for employing a new tactic to your ever-growing arsenal of campaign weapons. Pandering with the public’s money to buy your office is a new one. So, kudos. Although I realize ABC, being the de facto mouthpiece for the HRC campaign, isn’t going to report the true nature of this dumb plan, hopefully somebody in the media is going to be honest about your tax “holiday”.
Cheers!

Posted by: J. T. Bigglesworth | May 4, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Since we’re confessing, I’m black and hate how Obama uses people of color.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Gilis
as I said as long as Obama doesnt have a chance

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Lisa
ah so you are the good lisa Im not prejudice but its definitely Obama doing the race baiting

Posted by: staniam | May 4, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Hillary for president.
Obama supporters: Keep drinking the juice. He’ll save you all.

Posted by: kbean | May 4, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

@READY999
If the popular vote of the democrats are denied, I’ll vote Ralph Nader. Hillary is now almost 128,000 ahead of BO.

Posted by: cindy in Jacksonville | May 4, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Still Undecided, HRC or BHO? Here’s all the information you need to choose Hillary… BO said in his autobiography, “Dreams of my Father,” that he is willing to support black nationalism (where militant Black people practice separatism from white people and establish self-governing Black communities) and doesn’t care if it hurts whites. In BO’s words, “If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.” Why in the world is this man still in the running??

Posted by: april | May 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

staniam, there are 2 lisas here on this blog. But sorry Bill started the race baiting. I will be lisa d from now on.

Posted by: lisa d | May 4, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

lisa – a dynasty involves blood relations… there is no Clinton dynasty even if Senator Clinton becomes President… that is just a marital tie. The Bush’s are a dynasty. The Kennedy’s are the largest dynasty and half of them adopted Obama. That side of the Kennedy family is left wing elites who have very few accomplishments, are associated with rampant corruption, and cannot work across the aisle for the good of the country. The other side of the Kennedy family endorses and actively campaigns for Clinton. That side of the family has a long history of accomplishments as centrists and public servants. Senator Clinton is fighting hard against a left wing dynasty that is losing stability in its own ranks. Let’s take it one step further now… are you ready?… Obama is part of the Bush and Cheney families by blood… hence he is a member of the Bush dynasty. If you do a bit of research you will find he has acknowledged this detail and also acknowledged his upbringing with a silver spoon and political ties. Only now that he has been exposed as an elitist who is out of touch with mainstream America is he falsely claiming he is middle class and identifies with the struggles of the poor urban and rural voters. It is not his fault he is a silver spoon baby but it is his fault that he is lying about being in touch with things he has no clue about…. he has never been poor, if his mother received food stamps while he attended private schools all his life at a very high cost then she was guilty of fraudulant transactions with our government… something many Americans are opposed to… people should not be taking advantage of the system to receive food stamps when they are not destitute. I seriously doubt her rich parents ever denied her assistance even in a slight crisis.

Posted by: DCVoter | May 4, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

I’m a typical white person that has attended a mostly black christian church all of my life. I have seen many ministers, come and go, mostly black and a few white. I have never heard anything like the Rev. J. Wright. I would walk the minute I heard the hate, racist and anti-american attitude of rev. j. wright. Nobody is attacking a church, just revealing a cult, with Obama endorsing this alleged church.

Posted by: William K. | May 4, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Its ok Lisa. Normal people realise that just because you don’t want to vote for Obama means nothing more than that.
Its just someone like me who evidently is automatically racist if I don’t want to vote for him.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

What is up with Caroline Kennedy standing guard over Michelle Obama? Seems like Barack has cracked down and is using Caroline to keep her in line. Saw them on CNN and Michelle kept looking over at Caroline for approval. Was one of the more bizarre interviews I have seen.

Posted by: jackie | May 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

DCVoter-
I am impressed, that was very interesting.

Posted by: martha J. | May 4, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

If Obama and the fringe left is the direction that the Democratic party is heading, then I’ll take my vote elsewhere.

Posted by: Mack | May 4, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

I’m a 49 year old Democrat from Charlotte, NC and I will not vote for Obama. If he wins the nomination, I will not vote for him in the general election. I will stay home on election day.
Obama is a total fake and a scary proposition for President. And his wife is one self-important piece of work.

Posted by: Carole Francis | May 4, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

@ William K and April.
That is what I have trouble reconciling.
How does someone spend their whole life promoting such an agenda and then claim to be uniting.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Obama keeps talking about changing this and changing that but provides no solutions. I’m not sure about Clintons gas proposal but do know it is at least an attempt to get things rolling. I hear only negative vibes from him.

Posted by: Gale | May 4, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Then stay home Carole. I hate people whining if their canidate doesn’t win they will vote for McCain. You are stupid people that will send our kids to war. I am ashamed of you.

Posted by: lisa | May 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Well, the only time I would vote against Obama is if he accidentally chose Hillary as his running mate.
If he does, then even Ralf Nada begins to look young to me.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Lisa:
Don’t call people stupid. No name calling please, everyone. But I hear that Lisa has dual personality on this blog.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

William K.
The church is the church. Pastors come and go as you so eloquently testified.
Rev. Wright is the only pastor Obama has ever known. I have travelled the world and lived in many parts it. I have had parhaps 20 different pastors in my life starting with my own father.

Posted by: Gillis | May 4, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

I saw that interview it was odd. I didn’t want anyone to gun for her as she isn’t the candidate but it was beyond soft it was a waste of time.
If you aren’t going to query her on things properly then discuss some other topic properly Malveaux allowed Michelle to control it and constantly change the topic or give non answers

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Another Lie from
Hillary Pinnochio Clinton!
The Gas Tax Holiday Plan is John
McCain’s plan! Hillary just let out a
me too! Hey Hillary how long is your
Nose Now?

Posted by: reaganfan | May 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

This is why her campaign is days away from coming to an end. The Gas Tax Holiday is a political football, It was also used by Bush 1. In the end the Oil companies will win this battle by making those of us who pump gas pay more for it. There are no freebies. Expecially when you tax big companies. Sad to see her continue this kind of politics.

Posted by: Bh In Phoenix | May 4, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Obama and the Wright House-NO FREAKIN WAY!!!!!!

Posted by: Cindy | May 4, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

HEY-Does anyone else think that Obama and Wright staged the whole thing to try to distract from Hillary’s Penn win?

Posted by: Cindy | May 4, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

4 Obama. How could I not be? You?

Posted by: Bh In Phoenix | May 4, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

to Beau – it was told You thousand times already. If You can not understand – looks like You have mental problems.

Posted by: Linda, Florida | May 4, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Cindy, definetly not staged. Who do you support?

Posted by: Bh In Phoenix | May 4, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am

I am not an American but i’ve followed this election more closely than I’ve ever followed any other.
I’ve read the posts both on this site and a few other sites and observe this: the intense bitterness with which Clinton supporters appear to talk and it makes me wonder…hmmm?

Posted by: ron | May 4, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

While I agree that Clinton’s proposal of the gas tax will do next to nothing because of supply and demand, she at least is trying to come up with SOMETHING to help in the gas crisis. She is also working up a bill with several D. Senators to tax “excess profits” of oil companies. I won’t fault her with this because not many of ANY of the candidate’s plans are neccessarily workable. They all need serious tweaking. Obama’s health care plan to just let people who haven’t been paying premiums show up at the hospital when they need heath care and let the tax payers foot the bill is just awful. Not to mention economists say you’d have to be a “mystic” to figure out Obama’s economic plans. They said while Clinton must improve hers, she is the closest candidate to having some solutions for the economy. McCain admits he sucks with the economy and his policies are just crazy talk, of course he knows what he’s talking about with natl. security. As an independent I think I’m pretty unbiased. And I am still undecided which way I will go in the GE. I do have to say though, if the Obama supporters want anyone to take him seriously they are going to have to chill out. Their biazarre rants and accusations irk me, because I don’t live in the Democratic bubble. I don’t bash any of the candidates on their personalities because I like all of them. I think Obama is charming and charismatic, Hillary is smart and funny, and McCain is honest and polite. Enough is enough. It gets old reading all of these irrelevant things about Clinton and that Obama is a racist. It gets old from both groups ( although the Obama supporters are much more extreme) At this point I think Clinton has the best shot to fix the economy, and that might just be the deciding factor.

Posted by: Ohplease! | May 4, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

Again before I get attacked by anyone…I am independent and I honestly believe Obama doesn’t have a shot in you-know-where at winning the GE. It has nothing to do with his race, because he actually picks up votes between different races. It will all come down to experience, and policies. You have the most liberal Senator in the Senate and a moderate Republican. People will go moderate over liberal any day!

Posted by: Ohplease! | May 4, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am

If Obama is on any ticket (VP to Hillary) I still could not vote for him. Highly unlikely though. I, too, saw the Michelle interview with Caroline Kennedy and the Meredith V. NBC interview with BO and Michelle and they were two unhappy people. Meredith kept pressing the Wright issue and they were having none of that. Constantly pushing to move on, but this is nothing compared to the licking he’ll take if he ever has to go against McCain. He should take speech therapy to get rid of his stutter. Even Letterman made fun of Obama’s “uum, ahh, umm” and put clips together of a never ending “uuh”.
I won’t watch him on Russert’s NBC Sunday morning…I really can’t follow him when he speaks. I don’t get how he is considered a great speaker. I’ll be tuned into ABC and Hillary’s town hall q and a Sunday AM.

Posted by: Debra, Los Angeles | May 4, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

We will need to pull together as one party come November, so maybe it’s time to lighten up on the attacks. Stop dividing ourselves.

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 4, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

Hillary will do whatever she can to support Obama. She has said so twice in the last 2 days. Obama hasnt made a sound though.
I think the gas tax holliday is not going to save the average person a lot, but this idea that they will just jack the price of oil up is due to speculators.
The way to get around that is allow a straight rebate.
tax the gas and allow us to deduct it off our taxes at the end of the year. Dollar for dollar.
In other words, allow us to cough up all the gas receipts during the summer and simply deduct 14% of the total .
Better yet, how about a price freeze on gas. Then oil speculators probably wont be too interested in jacking up the price.

Posted by: tomdavie | May 4, 2008, 4:54 am 4:54 am

The gas tax holiday is a total gimmick, invented for the primaries. if Clinton really believed in it, she would introduce legislation and get other Senators to sign on to it. But there is no chance in hell that any legislation like that could even be written and introduced and passed before summer recess. She’s been a Senator for 7 years. She should know how legislation is written and passed. A Senator can’t just give a speech “calling on Congress” to enact legislation when they haven’t even fleshed out a Senate bill. Typical Hillary – Promise them anything 3 days before the election, and forget about it the day after. Alternatively, if she really is being serious, she has no knowledge of how Washington works…. and that is an even bigger concern. So which is it? Is she being disingenuous, or stupid?

Posted by: Doug | May 4, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am

Hillary is formidable!
Not only that she has endless energy campaigning for the Presidency… but she is actively involved in securing gas tax relief to better poorer people’s lives over the summer!!! She is fighting for a “foreclosure freeze” too. She doesn’t have to to any of this… but SHE CAN.
Hillary is MULTI-TASKING and she is very able! while her opponent does not even want to face the contoversy facing him personally in his own campaign… how weak is that?
Hillary is ready for debates, ready for the American People and ready for rolling her sleaves up to solve problems!!!
Hillary is the President we want!

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 4, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

I will address all three of this issues for all barack and hillary fans to understand.
Housing crisis, Hillary wants to spend 30 billion dollars on the housing crisis
with a 90 day freeze on foreclosures. Barack only wants to spend 10 billion, but it is only for people who have been victimized by the housing market.
Advantage: Obama because I do not feel we need to go more in debt for people who do not calculate there bills right? Your house should never be more than 3 times your income.
Health Care, Hillary wants universal health care, but a mandate for everyone. Barack want universal health care but a mandate only for children. 18 Years or older can decide if they want it or not.
Advantage:Obama, How are you going to tell a person 18 or older that he has to buy this healthcare. So, again Hillary is lying about him leaving 15 million people out of his plan.
Last is Gas Tax, Hillary is for it, while Barack is against it. First of all it will only save us 30 dollars for 3 months, plus we run the risk of gas prices being risen. Oh, and I thoutht we were trying to help the american people not send them to the unemployment line. The gas tax will cost some construction workers there jobs.
Advantage: obama, I guess because he is ssmarter than his opponent.
P.S. Isn’t Hillary such a great liar read through the rhetoric people.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

If Hillary and McCain were able to pull off a tax holiday, we would never see the benefits at the pump. The oil companies would take advantage of the situation by raising their prices to compensate. Then after the tax holiday, the taxes would go back up and the price raises put in place by the oil companies would stay in place. We would be even worst off. We have seen ths happen in the past. No. We need a complete change. Throw out the Clintons, McCains and Bushes, and all the old dishonest politicians, and start over with a change we can depend on. We need Barack Obama.

Posted by: John | May 4, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

Gas Tax: Is a tie for ineffectiveness by both candidates.
It is a band aid on a bleeding gash. Now I am for Clinton but her and Obama are both wrong. He offers no proof of several thousand job losses even in Illinois who has trialled this already. He offers no current solutions only programmes that are to be effective in 15-20 plus years time. He needs a more immediate stratergy offering some relief in the next 12-18 months onwards. Now the biggest problem with hillarys position is that oil companies will increase costs. Utilise tax loopholes for losses. If it increases useage by even 5 % that is a huge burden on a typical summer of oil shotages.
Most importantly the lost revenue will be in the billions for the sake of $30 per household. Now those billions help fund the economy. Schools, Health etc.Things that can’t afford any government cutbacks.
Health: Obama is wrong. A health care plan has to be encompassing and cover all. The greatest drain on health is as a countries citizens age. If our working population are unable to receive appropriate treatment it effects productivity but more importantly can lead to a greater strain on an already over burdened welfare system. If we can’t afford treatment we can’t work and then welfare recipients increase and forget retirement/pensions. A healthy society flourishes. The chasm between the classes will become a gulf at the risk of being dramatic start thinking India. Ghettos will be very real not just music.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am

Clintons new message is the same old bunch of lies. If Hillary and McCain were able to pull off a tax holiday, we would never see the benefits at the pump. The oil companies would take advantage of the situation by raising their prices to compensate. Then after the tax holiday, the taxes would go back up and the price raises put in place by the oil companies would stay in place. We would be even worst off. We have seen ths happen in the past. No. We need a complete change. Throw out the Clintons, McCains and Bushes, and all the old dishonest politicians, and start over with a change we can depend on. We need Barack Obama.

Posted by: John | May 4, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am

Who owns Obama besides the big oil companies? Obama has such a boatload of dirty friends……drip…drip if that boat springs a leak…watch out. Look at Rezko on trial right now. Rezko, as a real estate magnate in Chicago, was given a contract for 3 energy plants to be built in Iraq…. through our government. The plants were never built because Rezko got indicted, but NO DOUBT that Senator Obama helped Rezko GET that contract for Rezko. Not to mention that Axelrod was a lobbyist for Exelon (and the later nuclear legislation with no teeth), or that much of the $$$ loans came through General Electric Financial. Who have been large contributors to Obama’s campaigns, General Electric and Exelon! Who owns one of the largest loan insurance and credit card companies in America, General Electric. Who voted for unlimited credit limits and voted against a 30% cap on credit cards? Obama! Obama said he voted against the 30% cap because it was too high. Apparently NO cap is better than a cap that’s too high. Who owns NBC and MSNBC the home of all anti-Hillary all the time? General Electric! Who owns Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Andrea Mitchell? General Electric! Who owns Tim Russert? General Electric! Who is currently doing business in Iran? General Electric! Obama says he wants to sit down and talk with Ahmedinejad – so General Electric can do more business in Iran? Who is Obama looking out for – the people? NO! The big oil companies and General Electric and Exelon! Does Obama work for the bitter Americans that he talks about? NO!

Posted by: rs | May 4, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

Rezko is an even bigger supporter of Clinton and McCain. Don’t blow this smoke about corruption when the parties you are supporting are the biggest cooks in the History of the United States. You like to throw mindless repition of names around. Rezko, Rezko, Rezko is a crony of Hillary Clinton. Throw out the Clintons, McCains and Bushes, and all the old dishonest politicians, and start over with a change we can depend on. We need Barack Obama.

Posted by: John | May 4, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

That’s a very biased, pro-Obama headline by ABC.
I read this article 3 times. Where does Clinton attack Obama? In each of her quotes she is comparing her policy with his policy and noting the difference.
That is not attacking. That’s campaigning based on policy and delineating what each candidate stands for.
ABC, please do not characterize positive politics as attacks.

Posted by: Leslie | May 4, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

For a common man who lives pay check to pay check even a 30 – 50$ savings is a bonus.
A gas tax will also help all the truck drivers who are spending $250 to fill their tank every few days.
Hillary you have both short term and long term solutions.
Go Hillary 08

Posted by: Rick | May 4, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Btw – All you Obama supporters, why don’t you get it. Obama is not electable. If there was a white man or women in Obama place they would be kicked out the moment the pastor, ayers, rezko and all those radical association news broke out …
Btw – Why 90/95% of Blacks voting for him just based on his race and nothing else …I wish the whites and others do the same.

Posted by: Tom | May 4, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Rezko crony of Clinton WRONG
The best they can turn up on that was a photo not even a story to go with it. Not a private photo but a typical meet and greet one.
Obama Rezko on the other hand well there is reems and reems on that association and it is yet to be concluded.
For someone so new fresh and different Obama has a slew of questionable associations to put it nicely.
Maybe its time to pull your head out of the sand and smell the coffee.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

Obama is unelectable. His pastor disaster just won’t go away. The new one is now being called Wifegate. Why is she so bitter?

Posted by: Bob | May 4, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

I like that Clinton at least has proposals to help the economy. With Obama all we hear is Wright this, Rezko that.

Posted by: Gale | May 4, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Bob I have to agree why does she alway looked so angry ??? She agreed to be involved in politics and is happy to point fingers but can’t take return fire. Ever notice how Obama has trouble containing his disdain when he is annoyed. Now that is one dirty look.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

lets see condemn guilt by association as an argument and then use it for your own argument hmmmmmmm

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Hillary couldn’t even keep Bill in line and now she is destructing the Democratic party as well.
You democratic voters realy are self distructive!
Way to go Democrats, you are sadling the rest of the world up for an other four years with Republican war mongers!!!

Posted by: Willy Andreina, Diest, Belgium | May 4, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct.
Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

A personal favourite I always think of when Obama says he didn’t vote for war.
If a politician murders his mother, the first response of the press or of his opponents will likely be not that it was a terrible thing to do, but rather that in a statement made six years before he had gone on record as being opposed to matricide.
Meg Greenfield

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

We would all like to vote for the best man but he is never a candidate.
Kin Hubbard

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

I live in Illinois. Gas prices here are usually higher than the national average. I drive 30 miles to work. My husband and daughter also drive 30 & 45 miles respectively. The suspension of the gas tax would be welcome. Senator Clinton has introduced the bill in Congress. The bill would not only help my family, it would also be a big gain for those driving trucks that transport the food and sundries we purchase. It is not just a “$30″ quick fix. People really need to pay attention and listen and even do a little research to understand the total picture. Also, could someone please explain to me just exactly what is meant by the “kitchen sink” that has supposedly been thrown at Senator Obama by the Clinton campaign? I have followed this process since the beginning and have a real problem with this phrase and finding the facts to back it up.

Posted by: Michiel W | May 4, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

This political campaign shows, with each passing day, that this race is really a battle of good vs. evil, ala The Rebel Alliance vs.The Empire.
Aided and abetted by the media, there are many in this country who see integrity as a sign of weakness. These same people share a perverse respect for gutter politics. They see strength in dirty smear tactics, and believe this to be the sure way to win against McCain in the fall. But make no mistake, the Republicans would not run so clean a campaign as Obama. The skeletons in the Clintons’ closet would emerge with a deafening rattle.
For instance…. There are two reasons why the ongoing campaign fraud court case against the Clintons (Paul vs. Clinton) is unknown to most Americans. One is because the media has chosen, for whatever reasons, to not report this bombshell. Two is because Obama has stood by his promise to run a clean campaign and has not indulged in the sort of gutter politics, taking the easy pot shots enjoyed by the Clinton campaign.
This ongoing fraud case against the Hillary and Bill Clinton is but one of a closetful of skeletons that have not been heard, due simply to Obama’s unwillingness to take the low road. Don’t think for one minute that the Republicans will be so kind.
The mentality that sees strength in petty, unscrupulous bullying is the same mentality that elected Bush-Cheney to a second term. The greatest problems our country now faces were born through ruthless greed. Yes, there are many in this country who see integrity as weakness, and who see strength in ruthless, greedy powermongering. But I believe that there are far more who crave the integrity of character necessary to going against the status quo and, for the first time in decades, doing the right thing.

Posted by: katzooks | May 4, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Democrats we are not thinking. Hillary will fight with Republicans and nothing will get done. I feel Obama will be successful because Republicans will work with him. A majority of Congress dislikes Hillary. Hillary is all about Hillary. Can you imagine all the drama in the WH? The way she runs her campaign explains it all. If Hillary wins, the Republicans will take over in 2012 and Democrats will never win again. Democrats, please use good judgement this time. Please do not let the media, race, gender and spin override your ability to think. Republicans, conservative talk radio and some new outlets are trying to attack Obama because they do not want to face him in November. He can generate the resources and unlike Hillary, he did not sign-up for the Bush/McCain war. The 527′s will not work this time. Obama will be tougher on the Republicans. He has to be nice to Hillary. Hillary may share a different view on this issue. However, she is part of the Democratic family and a female. Obama does not want to say negatives things and come across has being rude to a female. The media would like to see him has this angry man. He is to smart for that. All Democrats who will vote Republican are not true Democrats. Some being selfish and thing about your country and where we are today. If you all do not some this silly stuff, we Americans will start moving overseas for work. We are fighting not voting for Obama or Hillary. I personally prefer Obama. However, I would stand with Hillary if she wins. We have too much riding on this to be so selfish.

Posted by: Sam | May 4, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Don’t forget the 24.4 cent / gallon tax on diesel. This effects the truckers that use far more fuel that the average passenger car. Would not the savings be passed on to consumers? This has the potential of being more than just 30 bucks.
If the gas tax is used like it should be, why are the roads and bridges in such a sad state of repair? It has been borrowed to support some other government program.

Posted by: WolfWarrior | May 4, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Fast forward…2025
Hillary who?
Oh yeah, I remember her – she was that first lady woman that thought cause she was married to a president that she was qualified to be one…
Yeah, remember when she was first lady and President Clinton handed her an opportunity to work on the health care problem. That was one of the worst legislative catastrophes in modern political history. She tried to shove her plan down congress’ throat and they completely stuffed her.
Yeah, and then years later she ran that disastrous campaign against President Obama (well, Senator Obama at the time) and she lied and played the race card and the gender card and even got into bed with the same right wing extremists that attacked her years before to try to discredit Obama.
Right, right, and the country stomped her down again. She was widely ridiculed for her lack of integrity.
Yeah, this all sounds familiar, whatever happened to her again?
Well, as I recall, she lost her senate seat in NY and then became the CEO of some group Women’s Voices Women Vote. She tried for a position with the Democratic Party and they wanted nothing to do with her, then Emily’s List turned her down, she had a short stint as an analyst for FoxNews and then landed the non-profit gig. Her daughter just won a congressional seat running as a Republican in Arkansas and well wasn’t it tragic when Bill was arrested for that whole library funding scandal.
Yeah, those were wild times my firend, wild times.

Posted by: John Galt | May 4, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am

DID ANYONE JUST SEE BARACK’S INTERVIEW ON MSNBC?
OBAMA IS JUST YOUR AVERAGE POLITICIAN. HE PLAYS DODGE BALL WITH EVERY QUESTION. WHY IS IT THAT HE SAYS ONE THING, AND WHEN HE’S CALLED OUT ON IT HE FLIPS THE SCRIPT?
I’M AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND I CAN CLEARLY SEE HE’S NOT READY FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY.

Posted by: Eric | May 4, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

It’s OK to make profit, but if oil companies squease the hungry to make obsenely huge profits – someone has to stand up and stop them. That’s what you would expect from your politicians who have been eleced to serve you.
Hillary Clinton is the one you can count on to step up and look closely into oil companie’s profits – to tax the unreasonably excessive profit and share it with working class Americans.
The “elitist” smirk at $40, what is it to them? They don’t want to know that $40 windfall could put a smile on kid’s faces because with that Mum and Dad can take them out for a treat in summer.
Hillary Cinton is the only one to trust with the economy at these troubled times – and since Barak Obama does not want to debate anything live at any time with her or the public… she is right to point out their differences in policy making and ideology. The voters need to know.
Barak and Michelle don’t even want to answer difficult questions that are blighting their campaign: Rev. J. Wright. How are they going to be accountable later if already now it is a problem to get them to talk?

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 4, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Obama, an ordinary politician?
I think the word you’re looking for is extraordinary. Constantly taking the high road, debating issues and strategies rather than personal attacks and appeals to racism. He has fought valiantly against the temptation to descend into the gutter politics of Hillary and Karl Rove, no matter how much garbage they throw. Goodbye Hillary and good riddance to you and yours.

Posted by: John Galt | May 4, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Wow, well done, pretty hard to find a sentence that includes both Hillary and Trust.
My bad -
You cannot trust Hillary.
Trust, as a measure of integrity, is not a characteristic possessed by Hillary.
Trust Obama; defeat Hillary.
My mistake, Hillary and trust go together fine.

Posted by: John Galt | May 4, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Emily:
It’s over.
You still get to decide however if you want to vote for McCain or Obama or alternatively, you can stay home or even protest by writing in Hillary – those will be your four options come November. Good luck with that.

Posted by: John Galt | May 4, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

1master – Your assertion is not entirely valid regarding “time to get there”. Senator Clinton chose to play a supporting role as First Lady of Arkansas for 12 years and First Lady of the USA for 8 years. Even then, she continued her work as a humanitarian and a distinguished career as an attorney. After attributing her healthcare plan failing to her lack of experience in politics, she chose to continue working as a public servant by running for the US Senate instead of sliding into an easy seat like a state senate office. We cannot compare apples to oranges and expect a valid result.

Posted by: DCVoter | May 4, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

The price of gas is all about supply and demand. China and the rest of the world are competing with the USA for oil and OPEC is controlling the supply so prices go up. If Obama and Clinton were for the USA drilling for oil in Alaska, building new refineries and nuclear power plants, I might think they were really interested in lowering the price of gas and food for blue collar workers and the middle class. Fact is Obama and Clinton are in the tank with the green loons who will do anything to stop the USA from getting more energy for the people at cheaper prices. Instead both Obama and Clinton lie to the people about the so called pipe dreams of alternative energy like bio fuels that are causing food prices to go sky high and food riots in third world Nations. Obama and Clinton are false prophets who hold out empty promises of a Utopian world run and ruled by them. Problem is their vision of a Utopian world will put us all into the poor house while the State worker, politicians and Rezko types are laughing all the way to the bank with the people’s money lining their pockets.
Point is Obama believes government is the answer to all the Nation’s problems and demonize private industry as they want all the power. Obama and Clinton, covet the profits of the oil companies that could use to explore for the energy needed to fuel our cars and heat our homes. If Obama and Clinton get their way the oil companies are forced to pay the government the so called wind fall profit taxes. Obama or Clinton will than just turn the money over to a bunch of government researchers who will have no incentive to come up with any solutions since their money will dry up if they do.
Reality is government uses a stick to take from the people and than uses the dead hand of government to decide who gets what back if anything. If the people are allowed to keep what they have than the carrot of the free market will prevail and everyone will have a chance to prosper. Given Obama’s choice of a Pastor, who he let his kids listen to for the past twenty years, I would not trust Obama with two cents of anyones hard earned money.

Posted by: Emmet | May 4, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Obama was for the gas tax before he was against it. Can’t make up his mind lately.

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 4, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

cindy in nc…..That is exactly my point too! Obama is a flip flopper. There’s no way America is going to trust this guy with the economy or foreign policy! His inexperience is showing more and more each day.
Obama’s problem is he just decided to run for President in 2004 after he gave that inspirational speech. He never
took into consideration that his past
association with his Pastor, Rezko, or Larry Sinclair would surface.
OBAMA RUNS HIS CAMPAIGN ON JUDGEMENT, BUT HAS NEVER SHOWN SOUND JUDGEMENT IN THE PAST.

Posted by: Eric | May 4, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

it’s amazing reading through the blog found some out of touch or silly messages coming from americans folks that should be smartest people in the world that strucked me hard people can’t differeciate between light and darkness. Probably we should wake up from our sleep face reality instead of toying around our future gas price is crazy at the pump presently,economy going through hardship,mortagage crisis putting values of working class people down & we’re talking about gas holiday that’ll never solve problem instead of going for the right leader with better solutions verse jumping on the bandwagon of lady promising what she’ll never accomplished.
No more attacking negatively instead lets talk about real issues that affect our lives & childrens future.
DieHard Hillary Clinton Supporter switched to Barack Obama side.
Yes.We.Can
Obama “08

Posted by: Abdul Olufowobi | May 4, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Clinton and McCain’s stance on the gas holiday as they put it, obviously shows their lack of being able to grasp the big picture. I think I am an average fuel user and the proposed tax roll back on fuel would save me about $6.00 per week, or about $72.00 over the summer driving season. During that time I’m quite sure the oil companies will find reason to increase the price of fuel to fill the gap also filling their pockets with even more obscene profit. While Americans are enjoying this 18 cent roll back, our highways and bridges will deteriorate at an even faster pace because less money will be available for maintenance and repair fueling the need for even more money in the future. Jobs will be cut back because of lack of funding meaning even less maintenance and repair will take place and it will create the need for even more funding to catch up. Our roads and bridges are already behind in maintenance and repair and we can’t afford to delay the process any more than it already is delayed. The best way to get a grip on the entire economy is to pass the “Fair Tax Act of 2007″ It would also help to pass legislation such as S-2984, S-3694, S-3554, S-23, S-25, S-133, S,2045, bills sponsored by Senator Barack Obama aimed toward energy independence.

Posted by: 1masterstroke | May 4, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Does anyone know what happened to the proposal being knocked around about putting toll roads back up to fund the road/bridge repairs? Just wondering what happened there…

Posted by: Aggieboo65 | May 4, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

For everyone on this site please quit talking about the relationships or affliations that both candidates have with certain people. Please judge Obama and Hillary on their policies not who they are affiliated with. I am a Obama supporter, but as you see I listen to both canidates. Matter of fact can anyone give me substance about any canidates stances. Oh, and by the way Obama has repeatly said that the only way to fix the oil problem is invest in alternative fuels, which is 150 billion dollar plan. People need to understand that this is not an easy fix that some people are going to have to suffer from rich to poor. I will also tell you that residents overseas has been paying these gas prices for years for feel lucky that we have been privileged for so long.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Obama voted 3 times in the Illinois legislature for a holiday gas tax. He is a flip-flopper! He is going to lead the democratic party just like Kerry and Dukakis. At the convention I can see the flip-flop shoes all over again. Another Kerry.

Posted by: Shell | May 4, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

I also want to put a couple of issues to rest by giving a life experience or sound advice. First the Rev. Wright issue is something that is very delicate. When I first saw the snippets I was upset how they were treating him. But, since last week I have lost respect for this man. His pride has hurt Obama’s campaign, but Obama has clearly denounced him. Did obama here some of these things he has said before? I believe he has, but that doesn’t mean that he agrees with him. Example, I am a african american male who has dated mexican, black, white, etc. type of girls. My mother told me she does not care who I marry as long as she is not white. My mother and I have got in heated arguments over this and she will not change my view. I also do not want to hear the complaint that rev. wright is not kin to Obama because if you are a open minded person you look at all people the same way.
Second, I want to talk about people saying that the gas holiday will help. It will not because the oil companies will raise the prices and people will lose jobs which hurts our economy. More people at the unemployment line. It will hender the mortage crisis even more due to loss of jobs. You want to do this for 30 dollars over 3 months? Look at the big picture.
Last, His inexperience is not an issue to me? I understand that he has not been in the senate long, but can he do any worse than George Jr. People who are college graduates how about if people look at you like that do you think you would get a job? The fact is your only as good as the people you surround yourself with!!! He said he would have Gore in his cabinet mixed with republicans and democrats alike. He would also probably chose Clark as his vice president who is a ex general.
Wishful thinking having Colen Powell as secretary of state would be exceptional. For one you would have a coalition of smart military competent people with a president that first thinks about his actions before implying them.
Obama/Clark 08

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Emmet: I beg to differ with you and your flawed reasoning. The price of fuel today is not about supply and demand. The price of fuel today is about speculators investing their windfall profits in commodities. Fuel is a commodity and those such as John Arnold, James Simons and others who control huge funds continually drive up the cost by their speculation in commodities futures. It’s sort of like when the Hunt brothers attempted to corner the silver commodities futures in the 70′ and 80′s. The more futures they accumulated, the more the price went up. The only difference, the Hunt’s had no intention of selling their futures. The oil speculators sell theirs to the highest bidder. Unfortunately fuel users the world over are victims of this manipulation. It’s unfortunate that Americans can’t do anything about this market manipulation, but we can do something about the laws and tax loopholes that allow the modern day robber barons to accumulate obscene piles of cash in order to play the markets like a big casino. Laws such as Senate bill S-1181 proposed by Senator Obama need to be passed.

Posted by: 1masterstroke | May 4, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Also, people saying he is a flip flopper is not true get your facts right!! He has said repeatly that he voted for a gas tax, but found out it didn’t work. This has also been voted on in the Senate for several years with Obama and Clinton? So, is she pandering yes because she is a smart woman. She knows this will not work. Again, I am a Obama supporter and I agree with alot of their views, but Obama’s policies are better.
P.S. I also do not want to hear he does not have any directions in his policies I am giving them to you. I also want to note that all three of our politicians are crooked. Your not a politician if your not, but I do believe some are more than others. That is the reason I am voting for Obama.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

1masterstroke thank you for your views. I had really not paid attention to that. But I would not call my remarks flawed were just doing a discussion.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Gas prices here are usually higher than the national average. I drive 30 miles to work. My husband and daughter also drive 30 & 45 miles respectively. The suspension of the gas tax would be welcome. Senator Clinton has introduced the bill in Congress. The bill would not only help my family, it would also be a big gain for those driving trucks that transport the food and sundries we purchase. It is not just a “$30″ quick fix. People really need to pay attention and listen and even do a little research to understand the total picture.
HILLARY IS AT LEAST TRYING TO GIVE SOME EXTRA MONEY TO US….OBAMA DOES NOTHING BUT CRITICISE.

Posted by: John Pen | May 4, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Sen. Clinton has become an old time politican…distorting the truth and saying whatever it takes to get elected. She has absolutely no credability. One day she distorts the truth by telling her audience while in Bosnia she had to dodging sniper fire. What is she trying to prove to an audience? That she she has military experience? She can take the heat? The next day she says as a very young girl her father taught her how to shoot a gun. Now that is responsible father? The next day she is going to obliterate the people of Iran, and now she is saying she will use a bandaid approach to deal with the high price of gas at the pumps. Hopefully the American electorate can see through her desparate antics. Hillary Clinton thought the nomination was a given for her, now she must fight, and her underhanded fighting techniques have shown her real character, and it is not very honourable.
A view from Canada!

Posted by: Catharina Summers | May 4, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Obama is a terrible judge of character.
Obama threw his grandmother under the bus and now his beloved Pastor of twenty years that he sweared he could never disown. One more thing. If it was the Reverend Wright who, according to the Obama, helped him find his Christian faith, then that is sufficient — in and of itself — to cause me great pause. Wright’s hate-filled vision of Christianity is well outside the mainstream and yet that’s what’s filled the empty vessel, Obama.

Posted by: Sally | May 4, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

1masterstroke, gas tax loop holes won’t solve the energy crisis. The money will just line the pockets of the Federal workers, politicians and corrupt Rezco types. The only way to solve high gas prices is to drill for more oil, build new refineries and new nuclear power plants. Obama is against all of this and would rather demonize the oil industry and use the stick of government to take their money than do what it takes to provide more energy for the people at lower prices.

Posted by: Emmet | May 4, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

CaPIcorn2 Do not count on government. Government never invented anything. Government just lines the pockets of Federal workers, politicians and corrupt Rezco types with the peoples money taken from them by force. The peoples money is than thrown into the bottomless pit of government as it sucks all the creativity and incentive from private industry to develop any new technological advancements including alternative energy. Not to mention jobs, unless your a Federal worker, politician or Rezco type.

Posted by: Emmet | May 4, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

I understand exactly what you are saying, but everything runs through the government. So, we can just hope they do the right thing. I also want to ask a broad question. Do you think we really live in a democracy or does it seem like we live in a republic.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Hillary, its time to give it up. As far as a tax on fuel it will not be enough to help my grandchild receive her allowance. Much less feed the poor with riseing prices on food too. You are totally out of touch. You do not know what it is to struggle for anything. You have been taken care of. Give up you just dont have it gal. All you know is argueing……..we need peace and change a real change and you are not it.
You are a Clinton that carries old baggage.

Posted by: rubylee | May 4, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

CaPIcorn2 We live in a republic. Unfortunately the power of the people to make free choices on what to spend their money on and how to live their lives is being taken away and concentrated more and more into dead hand of the Federal government, including the non-elected government workers and judges. So it does not make any sense to vote for someone like Obama or Clinton whose answer to every problem is to hand over more power to our overseers, the Federal government. When you combine this with poor or incompetent leadership from the top, it makes things even worse. Thus Obama’s poor judgment via his choice of friends, Wright, Meeks, Ayers, Rezco, makes me even more troubled. It is the free market and the unfettered power of the people that can be counted on to provide us with the new technology and change we need to solve our problems. Not government.

Posted by: Emmet | May 4, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

I understand your views and respect them, but I think being associated with the people above that you mentioned are not relevant of his views. I would rather have someone associate with certain people than to vote to send us to war that has killed 4070 troops. Even Colin Powell said hisself we cannot sustain that type of manpower over there. I knew something was wrong when he left the administration of Bush.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

People are hungry because of a food shortage, yet the government PAYS farmers to Not Grow food.
Small farms are bought up by city lawyers and bankers. They sell them for a huge profit, then buy bigger farms-and Pay No Tax! The small farmer WAS the backbone of rural America, each one fed 100+ people.
Now they’re gone and people are hungry. The country kids have to drive to the town to flip burgers, taking jobs from the town kids. The town folk then have to drive to the city to work , wasting gas and removing job opportunity from the locals. End result-the middle class, the worker-bees of America, the folks who used to “supply” the food banks are standing in line for help and their homes are in foreclosure.
The government is trying to pass a support bill for farmers and new foreclosure laws. Trying to figure out how best to assist is a no brainer-support the small farms. Return rural folk to the land. There will then be a ripple effect of employment in the towns and cities and a huge reduction in wasted gas. Oh and we will produce more food AND save a lot of homes! Maybe no one will go hungry or homeless…
The laws creating this assault on the Middle Class are rooted in the past. It has greatly affected white, less educated, hard working Americans. These folks need change in Washington. Only one candidate offers true change, not just in party, but change we can believe in. We need Barack Obama

Posted by: oldwhiteguy | May 4, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

I don’t see Clinton as a leader. I see her as somone willing to lie,steal, promise anything, do anything, take whatever she has to, destroy whomever she has to, to get what SHE wants.
She will pretend it’s about us and she may honestly believe that the ‘good’ she will do could somehow outweigh all of the nasty things she has done to get elected… but fortunately we won’t have to find out.
Fortunately, there is a true leader in the race. Senator Obama is leading by example…how to run a campaign that is fully funded and pays it’s bills… how to run a campaign with integrity… attacking where it is right and prudent but not willing to stoop to the ‘dirty politics’ of his opponents. He has shown incredible restraint by not attacking the Clintons on all of their incredibly smelly baggage.
He chooses instead to stick to his values and win with honor…
I am so grateful that Senator Obama is willing to go through this ugly fight to lead our country at a time when we face very real and difficult challenges. I think Michelle Obama will be an excellent first lady and I believe that Senator Obama has the potential of becoming one of the greatest leaders of our time.
Yes We Can!
Obama ’08

Posted by: lb | May 4, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

So much for Obama’s famous speech where he said “I could no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother.” Obama has now disowned his hate monger Pastor of twenty years, Rev. Wright. What integrity? Obama has none.

Posted by: Sally | May 4, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Michelle Obama said America was “mean” and that “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country,”
Sounds a lot like the anti-American sentiments of her Pastor, Rev. Wright. When will Obama disown her?

Posted by: carrie | May 4, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Carrie, What Michelle Obama was saying that in the year of 2008 you have a woman and an african-american man running for president. Who would have ever thought this would be possible? We are also truly blessed to see this in our lifetime. It means that the country is changing. Even though their is still sexism and prejudice(both sides) in the world we have made great strides to look past that. But, let me ask you did you see this skeptism on the news? If people continue to let the media influence their decisions I am going to have a nervous breakdown. Please think for yourself because the news tells you about 20% of the whole truth(I say that modestly).

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

People also please stop watching Fox News fair and balance. I do not think so, it is the republican and racist channel.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

The most scary thing than the war itself it that Obama get into the white house and he invited Rev. Wright and let him preach “God damn America….” Obama wants to increase the foreign aid. I hope he is not aiding Muslim country and Africa. Talking about raicist, can you imagine 20 years close relationship with Wright and not accepting the philosophy of Wright?
Any way, I will vote for anyone but Obama.

Posted by: Claire C | May 4, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

It’s Hillary or the highway for me. I wcan never vote for that snot nosed, bitter, anti-american, terrorist Obama.
Send him to the damaged goods column.

Posted by: Dan | May 4, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Lydia. Where DO you get your misinformation from? You said..
Obama is the only candidate who isn’t taking corporate money, so he really can change the way Washington is controlled by the corporate interests now.
Oh really now Lydia. How old are you?
He has his hands in the pockets of Hamas terrorist organization
wall street bankers
oil compnaies (why he opposes Hill gas relief)
and numerous other big business..
get out there and do your research before you posts here…nitwit

Posted by: Paul | May 4, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

I will ask any of you have your heard any racial slurs come out of Baracks mouth. No!!! He is also 50% caucasian and was raised by his caucasian grandmother. You have no foundation for your argument. I guess if I met any of you and your friend called me a racial name than I need to label you as a racist also. Association with certain people do not make you see their views.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Regarding gax issue, I heard Sen. Obana as saying that there is no time for legislation and saving 20 or 30 cents a day from gaz tax won’t help Americans.
1. There was a woman in life support in Florida, the husband wanted support equipment removed so that she could die in peace. Congress held an emergency session and voted the Law that president Bush signed as an emergency.That took only few weeks. It can be done for gaz , too. Sen. Obama is not in touch with middle class who lived in suburbs.
2. As for 20 to 30 cents savaing a day, I am asking Sen, Obama to listen to 1010 win. In my area, we have about 10 gaz stations. In one of them if one cent less than others, almost everybody will go to that station. Now, you see that people are fighting for one penny down. Guess what if that is 20 to 30 cents down? Great savaing!!! Again, Sen. Obama with his fuzzy maths is out of touch.
Thank you,
Gene

Posted by: Gene | May 4, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Gene, do you think 30 dollars for 3 months is worth people losing constuction jobs. Again I thought we were suppose to be helping american people not sending them to the unemployment line.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Also this elitest label has to go. If you would watch his biography of his life you would see he didn’t have a silver spoon in his mouth. He had to work alot for everything that he got. It was not just given to him. Matter of fact he just got done paying off his student loans 5 years ago. He did not have a rich momma and daddy to pay his bills.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

CapICom2,
Sen. Obama cannot compare himself with many African Americans. I think, he is using African Americans to achieve his political means. He grew up distancing himeself from African Americans. He married Michelle–this is my guess–to accomplish his goal since he was rejected in white milieu. Sen. Obama is an opportunist. He thought he will take care of vacuum in lack of leadership in demcoratic party and African American community.
Thanks,
Gene

Posted by: Gene | May 4, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

Gene, I respect plus understand where you are coming from, but a majority of biracial kids are not accepted by the caucasian race. But, they are embraced by the african american community. I believe that he likes to explore both sides of his ethnicity. The reason i say this is because I have two biracial friends and they talk about their experiences in life.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Gene, my point also is I understand about medication, but I will not sacrafice jobs for 30 dollars over 3 months. I would not be a true american if I only thought of myself. I think people need to learn to adapt to thier enviroment, which means cutting out certain activities or bills nonesential to living.

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Andy I understand exactly where you come from, but with that being said regardless of the money it will make people lose jobs because this will cause the budget to depreciate. This is not worth it and the 28 dollars is probably factored in because oil companies will raise prices. Believe I do not listen to politicians as I have said before all politicians are crooked just some more than others. Thats why I am voting for Barack.
P.S. I am currently sitting up here and watching Hillary and it is so easy to tell when she is lying

Posted by: CaPIcorn2 | May 4, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

CaPIcorn2, I had to say that they are both politician who as you said are crooks, that included Obama. I had no illusion. They donb how ever had to anwser to voter after four years. If they are not helping most people, they will not see another term. I am independent, so don’t owe any party loyalty. In this time, I just think hillary will do a better job. If we are in a good economy, i had no problem trying Obama. Also, the way that a lot of Obama supporter acted like a mob on most internet site also turn me off. I don’t think they are doning Obama any favor. I also don’t see that this gas tax think will help me much, but will for someone who really needed a break. You will be suprise what some people go through for a minimum wage job, so anything is better that not think in this time. I am glad that you are one of his supporter that’s for a civil discusion.

Posted by: andy sf | May 4, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

Bobcat, how can you evenequate bosnia with all the sickening stuff obama has been tied too. What do people who follow obama see in him? he is just a big windpipe with no ideas of his own, he just keeps hollowing change, and people are saying yea we need a change. But what change exactly is he talking about? If he is asked a serious question, and hillary has not been asked first so he can expound on her answers, then he stutters and stammers. The man is a joke, and has no business even running for president.

Posted by: cinnamonstick35 | May 4, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

capicon2, give me a break, he went to private schools his whole life, He and Michelle made almost five million in one yr. and nobody has questioned that, but they were all over how much the Clintons made. Also he acts like he wont take money from lobbiest, but he sure will take it from their wives, some con job. He has never did without, and anyone who thinks he has is being fooled. Im not even convinced he did community service in south Chicago, we have only his word for that, wheres the proof? i certainly dont believe him, he has lied about everything when first asked about it, then came up with some smooth talk when he was found out. And a lot of his long time friends are from iran, such as Resko, who was just an aquaintance and then it turned out he was a friend of 19 yrs. and he made 625 thousand dollars on that deal with him. And he approached resko with the idea, not the other way around. He is not so squeaky clean as his followers would like to believe.

Posted by: cinnamonstick35 | May 4, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

When someone has spent there whole life dedicated to one ethnic group through their work, church and charitable pursuits. That is a racial slur right there. When he doesn’t want to consider an interracial relationship as he would be uncomfortable with that is offensive. When he immediately joins a church whose mission is the advancement of the Black cause and then upon joining the Senate joins the congressional Black caucusthen he lacks crdibility in saying he doesn’t want to be the Black candidate and is for unity. Racist insults do not come solely through direct and blatant comments in fact the Black community often say they are aware of “code words”. This goes both ways. Comments such as “typical white woman” that is racist and its his own Granny he belittles how classy. He trots out race to deflect problems everytime. He held a press conference to deal with the Wright issue and Wrights vile comments and what was his speech about race. In particular how he has been burdened and persecuted by the white population. Suddenly he was being picked on again and by who?? white folks like all his life according to him. What a guy he saved his black vote by degrading the woman who raised him emotionally and finacilly while his mother pursued her own interests. No I am sorry he is racist maybe not hardline but he is. I am fed up with being called a racist directly and indirectly by him and his supporters and I dread what it will be like if he doesn’t win either the primary or the general election.
My kids have always been told that we are all the same no matter how we may seem different – appearance, race religion, speech ability etc. We have wonderful friendships of all ethnicities
It took a potential President to try and destroy all I have believed in and fought for.

Posted by: hey | May 4, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Hellen ……………different states have different bases. They are dominated by different industries, cultures, religions, pastimes even. In many cases the whole value system can be different to a larger more metropolitan city which tend to be more liberal. Bigger is not necessarily better and many values get lost.
More people does not automatically equate to more “smarter, well educated people” In fact there is often greater poverty and literacy problems in larger states as more fall through the cracks.
By the same token spirobulldog I would value the thoughts of a sage old farmer over a brash young college grad.
Or maybe we can all just embrace democracy and realise one vote on value is the rule for a reason. As we are all different with different lives and needs.

Posted by: hey | May 5, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am

To all the people I’m reading that say “if the other candidate gets the nomination, I’m voting for McCain”, well, you will then get just what you deserve. another 4 years of Bush business. Just as someone voting for or against someone because of their gender or their race. If someone votes AGAINST someone because of their gender or race, they also get what they deserve. I hope to vote for the person that believes as I do, wants the same things for this country as I do. I am a 55 year old non-graduate school person, voting for Obama. I will not vote race or gender, it is important to me to pick the person that I think will help our country. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will vote for her, as she is much closer to what I want for this country than McCain. So if you all don’t like Obama (or Clinton), and will go and vote for McCain, you will get just what you deserve for wasting your vote.

Posted by: Willow | May 5, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Warren Buffet says like many others that Gas Tax Holidays of clinton will not work. Since the gas prices would even go up – since gas companies would increase the prices to make up for the loss. Well, then what see gas prices rise – its all ready $4 and if the gas companies are not threatened by such quarterly losses – then they will go berserk and amass the money as never before. Buffet should first declare his Billions that are sitting with the Oil companies before making such statement – only then he can be believed. Most Politicians would say it will not work – since they have amassed their coffers with Oil Money.
But this Woman – The Power – wants to clash headon with the Oil Giants, Health Care Giants and Pharma Giants… right in Her Backyard, Think what she will do to Obama err Osama likes…
Go Hillary 08
McCain is still better then Osama -err – Obama….

Posted by: Nimesh Dixit | May 5, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Willow,
you said,”To all the people I’m reading that say “if the other candidate gets the nomination, I’m voting for McCain”, well, you will then get just what you deserve. another 4 years of Bush business. ”
The problem is WE think four more years of 911s and Osama Years are still better then Known Devil McCain/Bush Years. We will wait for 2012…

Posted by: Nimesh Dixit | May 5, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

People seem to forget that even if Clinton was to be the nominee of the DNC and if she were elected President, it wouldn’t be until 2009 until she could do anything concerning the economy or gas taxes, or housing because she woudn’t be president until Jan of 2009. And then evenything would be up to congress not her. I sincerely hope that they’re not hoping for her to do anything this year!

Posted by: Gerry | May 5, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

I am also sick of hearing how great Hillary is. I do not like or trust her but I side more with the democratic way. She was first lady. Since when does that make you qualified to run the country.This country is split into so many groups and everyone wants to be heard. The republicans have had their way for eight years. Osama Bin Laden is still loose.Even though I side democrat I would have voted for Bush if he got Osama.I only hear democrats specifically Barack talking about going into Afganistan where he was and may still be.McCain may be the maverick , but he sure isn’t acting like one.I understand what he is doing for political purposes , but he may not change if he is elected. We don’t need to take that chance. To raise questions…how many people died involved in the Clinton year scandals under suspicious circumstances. No one is perfect but come on. This country cannot afford to go to war with everyone. We are not getting the support we need for this war from the world.So to make Iran a target without sufficent support is dumb. You say Barack knows a pastor that has a negative view of America. A lot of the world leaders have a negative view of America. Maybe just maybe Barack can talk them out of attacking us.9/11 was too well planned. They are not afraid of us and we shouldn’t let any president build a false sense of security because they are at the helm.This country needs prayer and a coming together because anything divided against itself is sure to fall.

Posted by: TV | May 5, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

How democratic is it that Hillary only wants to count the big states? or the states that don’t caucus? Or typically red states? Basically, she only wants to count states where she won. By that logic, yes she is ahead . . . just not by any democratic process.

Posted by: X marks the spot | May 5, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

All Americans ’08. Is this possible?

Posted by: TV | May 5, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

To the HRC and Obama supporters who say they won’t back the other if he/she wins, and endorses his/her formal rival: if you don’t vote for the democratic nominee, then that may show that we as a nation are not yet mature enough to change course — let alone live up to that part of the U.S. Constitution, imparting that it is our duty to change government when it is failing.

Posted by: closet unificator | May 5, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Obama = a candidate with thin resume
Obama = Mr. HotAir in an empty suit
Obama = Mr. Flip Flop
When a candidate has nothing to prove he will sing a song CHANGE…like Mr. Bush did 8 years ago!

Posted by: Haha | May 5, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Clinton’s are thr biggest liars, who on this EARTH can trust them. No ONE .

Posted by: marika | May 5, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

Excellent ad, Hillary. Excellent trend you point out with Obama not doing ANYTHING to help out middle and working class Americans. Your plans are well thought out and comprehensive – unlike McCain’s. Obama says “No – do nothing” and McCain is another Republican dimwit.
Go GIRL!!!

Posted by: this election counts | May 5, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

The money that would come from a summer gas-tax break would eventually be paid by the big oil companies.
If, in the meantime, you actually believe that the missing tax money would cost people jobs…. think again
because if you REALLY feel this way, you can return those tax rebate checks just making their way to your mailboxes!
THAT money would fund a lot of jobs!
Meantime, I think we all need a break!
I c an’t imagine Obama handling the price of eggs let alone the pitfalls of a temporary gas tax vacation.
My Vote definitely will go to Hillary…. a DOER, not a Sayer!

Posted by: eyes open | May 5, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm

Obama should have been wetted by the DC before he was allowed to stand and campaign for a nomination.
If for example MacCane had a past and present mirroing Obama’s: connection and friendships with the likes of Ayers, Weatherman, Farrakhan, Rezko, Rev. Wright, plus the muslim informative years… his party and all the news-media and journalists would have stopped him in his campaign.

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 6, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Nationwide polls do not even include Michigan and Florida – as if they were not part of the USA.
How democratic is that?
But if the people of those two states were included, Hillary Clinton would have already been appointed as the Democratic nominee for the Presidency. She is clearly the strongest candidate, for the people.

Posted by: Retrovvision | May 6, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Let’s just beat McCain. We have two great candidates who can beat him. Don’t let conservatives play the divide and conquer game. I’ll vote for whichever democrat prevails. And it would be really great to see a ticket with both Obama and Clinton. Then we all win. Hang in there America; we can fix the mess that Bush has gotten us into. Remember how we bounced back from Bush I in the 90s. Lets put a democrat back in the White House and get things rolling in the right direction.

Posted by: David | May 13, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

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