Clinton Sits Through Sermon About Adultery

Can anyone say “uncomfortable” Hey, where was Bill?

WoW
I’ve always wondered why she stayed with him.
Political Reasoning?
I doubt Monica Lewinsky was the first women and probably not the last.
She should have left him. He lied to her and lied to the American people.
Hillary is such a role model (sarcasm)

It is about time someone reminded her that Bill Clinton abused her all these years.
She has been in denial all her life. She could have left Bill but he promised to make her the President of the United States. How ironic that he ended up costing her the nomination.
She should end her campaign on Tuesday and think bout herself.

I don’t get it. Hillary didn’t commit adultery. Why should she feel chastened?

And why is it that so many act like Bill Clinton is the only man to ever commit adultery and Hillary is the only woman who ever forgave her husband. At least Bill went after a grown woman not a young boy like so many republicans.

OK, this is a stupid topic, just another one of ABC’s bias against Hillary, picking at every little insignificant thing, while Obama makes huge gaffes and you don’t say anything. I’m even more shocked at some of the responses, like Kris in AL who says that this is somehow related to how she will be president. Kris askes “what won’t she tolerate”??? So , Kris, if you’re going to make that dumb analogy, then try explaining how Obama can sit through 20 years of racist sermons, including his wife giving one of those sermons, and not realize it? So, if he was clueless for 20 years, WHAT ELSE WILL HE BE CLUELESS IN???? get real, will ya?

Though I don’t know Kis in AL, I agree with Kris–she didn’t commit adultery so why should she feel chastened.

Just goes to show how tough this lady is when she has the courage to sit there and listen to discussions on subjects that are clearly uncomfortable for her.
Obama just sends his little fliers through the mail to discuss religion (and people are just supposed to take his word for it), rather than face actual questions from voters in Kentucky on the subject head-on…
But then again that’s how he treats all subjects that do not appeal to him.

drop the crap Eloise Harper !!
it smells badly

Why reporter always repeat Monica Lewinsky story? Hillary tries to forget and look forward. She has a faith in God that why she forgave Bill.
It is very annoying when reporter brings back this issue. Most of american wants to improve our economy and iraq war.

So?

This story is not journalism… it is trash. How sad!

I am an ardent Obama supporter but as for this story, I’m amazed at the comments that seem to blame Hillary for Bill’s marital “indiscretions”. To suggest that she should have left him or worse yet, killed him because of the Monica Lewinsky affair (and any other trysts he may have had) suggests either an amazingly shallow opinion of marriage or an overblown view of the importance of sex. In either case, I say “grow up”.

Adultery is a theme older than the Bible and a very common topic. It is very much not unique to the Clinton relationship. What is signficant is that Hillary appears in the latest polls to be padding her huge lead in Kentucky and closing sharply on Obama in his “locked down” Oregon territory.
Could be yet another huge Hillary comeback this Tuesday.

Kris in AL:
To answer your question:
This is exactly what makes Hillary the most qualified person for the job, because she would know how to separate what has transpired in her personal life from her PROFESSIONAL life.
In my opinion, what she had to tolerate from her husband in the interest of family unity in her PERSONAL life, would make her LESS likely to tolerate it in any other situationin her PROFESSIONAL life……

Thank you Eloise Harper! It’s about time that a woman journalist has had the integrity and guts to write about the most obvious of Clinton liabilities. We must be reminded of both Bill’s awful damage he did to our country and the Democratic party, and Hillary’s bizarre avoidance of it and crass attitude toward it for her own political purposes. Women in fact need to be reminded right now how Hillary totally disregarded the dignity of Bill’s women,(remember “Bimbo Eruptions — her term),in defending him in order to keep power. Hillary Clinton stands for no woman but herself.

Bill Clinton put the word SURPLUS in your life- have you heard that word lately????

How strange that the sermons that Obama heard for 20 years didn’t make him uncomfortable.
Listen my ex cheated on me about when Bill cheated on Hillary….my ex cheated with his personal trainer….no one in my life brings this up constantly…and I have no trouble going to the gym.
Would it be news if Obama had been sitting through a sermon about loyalty to personal friends or following the teachings of your church (like anti white Black separtism)
When is the MSM going to get tired of attacking Hillary with her husband’s infidelity?
When are you going to tell the story of Alice Palmer?

Bill’s personal behavior was certainly not admirable but as GOP Rep. Chris Shays said : “If we held the members of Congress up to this same standard we would lose two-thirds of them.” I admire Hillary for hanging in and working it through (for Chelsea) and her family instead of packing it in. Stop and think about the upheaval that might have been created also for the country if Hillary didn’t hold it together at that time.

bob10001′s comments make them sound more like a boob and I guess this is Harper’s target audience….so SAD!!!

How interesting everyone knows what Bill and Hillary Clinton think. We must have a nation of psychics!! They aren’t the first and will not be the last for one or both partners to have a relationship outside the marriage. But they are public figures so everyone seems to think they are entitled to the business of their private lives. Either you are all too young or too forgetful to remember John F. Kennedy who was one the biggest womanizers but yet still revered as a great president. Hillary just can’t seem to win either way. I’m sure the fact she is a woman has nothing to do with it?? Our genitals have little to do with leadership and what is required to become a great president. Monogamy is the great American myth. Time to grow up America.

ABC, I’ve defended your coverage of this nightmare of an election all along. This is just hitting below the belt. I’m disappointed. Go Hillary or McCain!

Hillary wants to look forward only when it suits her. Regarding everyone else she wants to know every aspect of their history. Rememer Barack’s kindergarten papers????? Hillary wants to fight for millions and millions of citizens, yet didn’t fight for her husband or marriage. She accepted the humiliation to become Prez—she suffered over two decades of indignity for nothing!

If Hillary is a church goer this isn’t the first time she sat through a sermon about adultery. Hillary is not the only strong woman out there and she is not the first person to hold on to someone who cheated. It is unfortunate how ignorant and hate filled some of these bloggers seem to be. You put out false information on the internet about the candidates. Some of you are so racist it is appalling! American has a lot to do to clean itself up! We are a disgrace to other countries. We are so busy trying to tell others how to live but look at the hate displayed in these blogs. God Help America!
You want to talk about church. I would guess that many of you writing comments go to church and have no problem spewing hate as soon as you leave the church. Then again many of you probably don’t know what church is all about. I’ll say this, the Lord has control over this election and everything else. If its Senator’s Obama’s time to be president, he will be president and hating on him won’t change a thing! If it’s Hillary’s time then Hillary will be president. So Stop the Hating!

ABC biased against Hillary? What a joke. Obviously you did not watch the last television debate between Obama and Hillary..on ABC. Seems to me ABC was for her!

Meh not news. I think the media is trying to find a way to keep talking about Hillary and its kinda embarrassing. This is not doing her any justice, Im pretty sure she has said or done some things newsworthy. This is about as important as Obamas Sweetie comment

hmmm. so , ABC….what was Obama’s sermon about this morning?

Why are people trying to turn this on Obama? He didn’t write the story and he didn’t preach the sermon! I personally think it is a ridiculous story to write and that the minister should have picked another subject, especially since I’m sure he knew in advance that HRC was coming to his church–that would have been the kind thing to do. Get mad at the right people and stop throwing mud at Obama when he didn’t do anything to deserve it!

Why do people mention only the Monica affair? Bill Clinton has had many, affairs. It’s a little stupid to blame a 22 year-old. She was just one of many.

The topic of Rev. Fryman’s sermon is just as irrelevant to Hillary’s campaign as the topic of Rev. Wright’s sermon is to Barack’s campaign. Neither candidate is responsible for what his or her minister happens to preach. I care more about what the CANDIDATES say, and the media are not spending enough time reporting their positions.

I think the issue that concerns me the most is Michelle Obama’s comment about “being proud of America for the first time.” I don’t care how she now tries to spin it, IT IS DISTURBING. I’m not concerned about Hillary’s husband’s sex life, I’m concerned about what the candidates REALLY BELIEVE ABOUT AMERICA.
If Michelle (really I mean Barak) isn’t very proud of the modern United States, then his black liberation IMMERSION may be a real threat to the vast majority of all the voters including Democrats.

mzmare … how is Clinton representing women of the future? by misrepresenting herself in the present?
she continues to claim all this “experience” she has. last time I looked, she was a former First Lady. that does not give you experience.

My sense of it that, alone in a room with no advisors or secret service, Hillary kicks Bill’s butt, and probably has throughout their marriage. It’s part of what makes her a skilled manager. You think keeping her marriage together is easy? Let’s try the Joint Chiefs, Congress and the Supreme Court. That’s what its going to be like for Senator Obama.

You should write for the National Inquirer instead of a pretending to be a journalist. This is another perfect example of the mainstream media’s sinking to a lower level of trash reporting.

Ok so bill slept around, according to several WH aids and secret service agents that were there when the Clintons were in the WH, he wasn’t the only one, she had several quiet affairs of her own, the majority of those were with other women. Seems to me that sermon was right on point, she is no more faithful in that marriage than he is.

our beloved john f kennedy was quite the womanizer himself. i wonder why did anybody ask jackie o why she stayed with him or insult caroline and ask her in public about her daddy. many articles have been written about Martin Luther King’s escapades. 8 past presidents are reputed to have had illicit affairs while married. including thomas jefferson, warren harding, f.d.r and according to sources jefferson fathered a child of a slave. the truth is that back then these affairs were treated more like romance novels than sex scandals so this is not new. bill clintons sex scandal went global due to the internet (and the republicans hatered toward him) not due to its uniqueness.

according to larry sinclair obama and larry had quite an interesting ‘little sex scandal’ of their own that included the use of cocaine.

You know I’m an ardent Obama supporter but I have to say this is seriously tacky as a story for ABC to report on.
This is like National Enquirer or TMZ type of reporting. The story is she went to church. Maybe the sermon is relevant if she or her campaign requested the subject (which I highly doubt) but I think ABC is just sensationalizing the story to up hits on their website or embarass Sen. Clinton. Either reason is hardly first-class journalism.

HMMMMMMM nobody denies it. Interesting very interesting.

Oh yeah the ever elusive information she has against him that she won’t use until “October” and why you ask so she can come back and run in 2012.

I’m an Obama supporter, but why is the topic of a sermon that Sen. Clinton attended news?
Please report on Sen. Clinton’s campaign and refrain from this sort-of gossipy bs. She deserves better.
Posted by: Jeff C. | May 18, 2008 3:12:02 PM
I agree. I can’t believe I wasted 2 minutes reading that. So what?? ABC, can’t you find something better to write about???

This story is nothing but junk. Hillary didn’t commit adultry. There are more important news stories such Obama and Rev Wright.

This story is nothing but junk. Hillary didn’t commit adultry. There are more important news stories such Obama and Rev Wright.
Posted by: Anders Scooper
I hate to disagree with you, she has committed adultery, she had several affairs during her time in the WH, mostly with women, There have been several WH aids and several SS that have made it public. Don’t believe me? do a google search on Hillary Clinton Lesbian.

Best? at what? Hiding her affairs? Lying to the public?

And the real issue is: Hillary didn’t have an affair in the White House, she didn’t have time because she was working on health care. Bill might have fooled around a little.

Let’s be honest.The sooner these two reprobates leave the stage the better for their party and the country.

Hillary will win the nomination and then you’ll be sorry.

Hillary won’t win the nomination she has lied to much, to much bad blood between the Clintons and the American people.

I’m writing Hillary’s name on the ballot. It’s obscene what the media and the DNC did to her. If she were a man, she’d have the nomination locked up.

Gaydar? sorry to inform you that there are millions of people walking around that wouldn’t set your gaydar off, I would imagine you probably even work with a couple.

Enquirer had a story of John Edwards love child I have not see anyone in the media or Obama supporters talking about this, is he not married also, guess its only a issue when it comes to Hillary.
Maybe we really need to take a deep look at Obama kind of strange all his young life he has not had one hot affair other than the Larry story, were are the women in his life or in his college days.

I am so happy he declared his self the winner I want a big party with press coverage, that will sure win him all these Clinton supporters he is now saying be nice to.

And the real issue is- an expert on gay people?
It’s funny the people who talk the most about who’s gay are usually gay themselves. In the closet or out, Issue?

For SJ:”I’m writing Hillary’s name on the ballot. It’s obscene what the media and the DNC did to her. If she were a man, she’d have the nomination locked up.”
Please spare us theFeminism/gender stuff.It had nothing to do with this.She played the game like everyone else and lost like it could have been anyone else.Who knows, mabbe in 4yrs a female will then beat everyone else.

In, for sure. ROFLMAO

HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!
HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
It’s time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana and West Virginia makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Sen. Obama has zero chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources without Hillary Clinton. Zero chance.
It is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say’s that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton’s have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Don’t be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And the answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.
Sincerely
Jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia – I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”

WHEN THE MEDIA GETS IN THE BUSINESS OF PICKING AMERICAN PRESIDENTS AS THEY DID IN THIS PRIMARY, DEMOCRACY WOULD BE ON ITS WAY OUT-
YOU GUYS OUGHT BE ASHAMED OF THE ROLE YOU PLAYED IN THIS ELECTION.
DEMOS WILL LOSE, THANKS TO MEDIA.
TIM RUSSERT PICKED NOMINEE IN IOWA…
OBAMA IS UNELECETABLE.

Obama was born to be president and he has already assumed the position.

if obama wins the presidency,there will be gay monkey sperm all over the lincoln bedroom………lololololololol

Seems to me she walked into this thing with the win in her hands, all she had to do was “keep” it. She couldn’t even do that. Not only has she lost alot of her support she has lost over $20 million. She is only staying in to recoup her financial loss. When her valued supporters help her get her money back she will step down. She is just hoping you all do it before the DNC picks a nominee, because once they do she can’t get back one dime.

Some say John Edwards is going to be Obama’s vice to win votes from the hate ridden, bitter, gun toting people that voted for Hillary.

No way Barack can win in November. GOP is going to chew him up and spit him out. It’s a mistake sending him in to battle against the GOP. A lot of dems will not vote for Barack. I will not vote for Barack because he is not the better candidate.
Anyone but Barack 08! No, he can’t!

That was pretty tacky of the preacher. I wonder how many in his congregation felt comfortable with what he was spewing. It certainly sounds as if there was a lot of hate wrapped in that “God Talk.” Talk about devil in the pulpit; no self-respecting preacher would try to so publically demean any person sitting in his church in that manner.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It’s not over until the lasdy in the pantsuit says so!)

Edwards can’t touch the hate ridden, bitter, gun toting people that voted for Hillary…Wait and see…LOL..LOL….You see noone wanted him either….LOL

Hillary sits through one sermon and the media does a story on it. Obama sits through 20 years of Rev Wright and the media quits talkin about it now when Hillary needs some help.

Re: ‘Bishop’s comments as follows: “At least Bill went after a grown woman not a young boy like so many republicans.”
What a clueless, partisan moron you are. I assume you have extensive data to show that republicans make up the majority of gay pedophiles in this country.
On a broader note, most of our politicians SUCK. The country is going down the toilet mainly because people only want to advance their self interests over those that will benefit the country as a whole.
This bitter partisanship we see all too often is why nothing significantly positive gets done in Washington or by many of the states. I have voted on both sides – Dem and GOP over the years, trying to select a good candidate, but mostly now I’m trying to pick someone who SUCKS THE LEAST.
Obama will raise my taxes and so will Hillary with their pseudo-socialist income redistibution focus. They all, including McCain, will make millions of illegals citizens and many million more to follow to take away more American jobs and rob us of our ever-increasing tax dollars.
BOTH parties have sold out the American public on energy policy for the last 3 decades. That’s because they’re being paid off through lobbyists of the oil industry and foreign interests.

I’m so glad the pastor held that sermon. Hilary is person that goes into denial when things aren’t going her way. She gave us all a pictorial as to what her presidential campaign would be like, by the way she ran her primary campaign! Most women like her, pick abusive men. She obviously, although smart, has some self-esteem and emotional issues. I find it ironic that she thinks she represents womens rights, when she blamed Monica and all the other women Bozo had affairs with, rather than shown strength and courage and left Bozo the red nosed clown! Hilary represents weak, insecure women, not real women! That’s why she is not going to be president! Real women hate what she represents which is insecurity, denial, and shrewed masochistic manipulation!

Hillary will take this till Aug,…Thats when the superdelegate cast their final vote and thats when it all counts….I think there will be more coming from Obama and his big mouth wife..Because she can’t keep that mouth shout…I also heard that the RNC had her on tape trashing the whiteys in wrights church…Can’t wait till that gets out….

“I will not vote for Monica Lewinsky’s ex-boyfriend’s wife.”
Pitiful…the USA has turned into the Jerry Springer show.

Thanks for the attention, Sam. The key word is “adultery” which is what Pres. Clinton did with a 22 year old intern. I’m just saying, I feel uneasy at the thought of him back in the White House. His act brought down the Democrats for 8 years.

SarahNJ | May 18, 2008 4:09:00 PM
Let me put it to you gently, sweetie.
You see, there’s this age-old communication technique called “sarcasm” that sometimes shows up, even on blogs. The little “Heh!” at the end should have given you a hint.
You might want to familiarize yourself with it before you fire from the hip.
Incidentally, your comment aimed at bob10001 was indeed slanderous. A basic sense of common courtesy should have prevented you from firing off that obnoxious barb.
Ever heard of it . . . common courtesy?

speaking of adultery, what’s up with Joe Barron

The media and the DNC didn’t do a thing to Hillary. That spin is just another lame ass excuse you Hillary lovers use to distract from her losing.

Did Hillary enable Bill? Bill has a really bad track record with women…Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick, and Monica Lewinsky. Monica was only 21 years old at the time Bill had sex with her. Only 3 years older than Chelsea.

Hillary had her affair with a washington dc. newswomen and the newswomen left town soon after the word got out and it was hushed up. This was before bills deal in white house

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT SODOMY (HOMOSEXUALITY)?
Genesis 19:5-8
5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
Exodus 22:19
19Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 18:22
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 18:23
23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
Leviticus 20:13
13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:15
15And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
Leviticus 20:16
16And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 1
1These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.
2(There are eleven days’ journey from Horeb by the way of mount Seir unto Kadeshbarnea.)
3And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the LORD had given him in commandment unto them;
4After he had slain Sihon the king of the Amorites, which dwelt in Heshbon, and Og the king of Bashan, which dwelt at Astaroth in Edrei:
5On this side Jordan, in the land of Moab, began Moses to declare this law, saying,
6The LORD our God spake unto us in Horeb, saying, Ye have dwelt long enough in this mount:
7Turn you, and take your journey, and go to the mount of the Amorites, and unto all the places nigh thereunto, in the plain, in the hills, and in the vale, and in the south, and by the sea side, to the land of the Canaanites, and unto Lebanon, unto the great river, the river Euphrates.
8Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.
9And I spake unto you at that time, saying, I am not able to bear you myself alone:
10The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye are this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.
11(The LORD God of your fathers make you a thousand times so many more as ye are, and bless you, as he hath promised you!)
12How can I myself alone bear your cumbrance, and your burden, and your strife?
13Take you wise men, and understanding, and known among your tribes, and I will make them rulers over you.
14And ye answered me, and said, The thing which thou hast spoken is good for us to do.
15So I took the chief of your tribes, wise men, and known, and made them heads over you, captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, and captains over fifties, and captains over tens, and officers among your tribes.
16And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
17Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God’s: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
18And I commanded you at that time all the things which ye should do.
19And when we departed from Horeb, we went through all that great and terrible wilderness, which ye saw by the way of the mountain of the Amorites, as the LORD our God commanded us; and we came to Kadeshbarnea.
20And I said unto you, Ye are come unto the mountain of the Amorites, which the LORD our God doth give unto us.
21Behold, the LORD thy God hath set the land before thee: go up and possess it, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath said unto thee; fear not, neither be discouraged.
22And ye came near unto me every one of you, and said, We will send men before us, and they shall search us out the land, and bring us word again by what way we must go up, and into what cities we shall come.
23And the saying pleased me well: and I took twelve men of you, one of a tribe:
24And they turned and went up into the mountain, and came unto the valley of Eshcol, and searched it out.
25And they took of the fruit of the land in their hands, and brought it down unto us, and brought us word again, and said, It is a good land which the LORD our God doth give us.
26Notwithstanding ye would not go up, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God:
27And ye murmured in your tents, and said, Because the LORD hated us, he hath brought us forth out of the land of Egypt, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us.
28Whither shall we go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, The people is greater and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakims there.
29Then I said unto you, Dread not, neither be afraid of them.
30The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes;
31And in the wilderness, where thou hast seen how that the LORD thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place.
32Yet in this thing ye did not believe the LORD your God,
33Who went in the way before you, to search you out a place to pitch your tents in, in fire by night, to shew you by what way ye should go, and in a cloud by day.
34And the LORD heard the voice of your words, and was wroth, and sware, saying,
35Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers.
36Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD.
37Also the LORD was angry with me for your sakes, saying, Thou also shalt not go in thither.
38But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither: encourage him: for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.
39Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
40But as for you, turn you, and take your journey into the wilderness by the way of the Red sea.
41Then ye answered and said unto me, We have sinned against the LORD, we will go up and fight, according to all that the LORD our God commanded us. And when ye had girded on every man his weapons of war, ye were ready to go up into the hill.
42And the LORD said unto me, Say unto them. Go not up, neither fight; for I am not among you; lest ye be smitten before your enemies.
43So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.
44And the Amorites, which dwelt in that mountain, came out against you, and chased you, as bees do, and destroyed you in Seir, even unto Hormah.
45And ye returned and wept before the LORD; but the LORD would not hearken to your voice, nor give ear unto you.
46So ye abode in Kadesh many days, according unto the days that ye abode there.
SODOMITES
1. 1 Kings 14:24
And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
1 Kings 14:23-25 (in Context) 1 Kings 14 (Whole Chapter)
2. 1 Kings 15:12
And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
1 Kings 15:11-13 (in Context) 1 Kings 15 (Whole Chapter)
3. 1 Kings 22:46
And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
1 Kings 22:45-47 (in Context) 1 Kings 22 (Whole Chapter)
4. 2 Kings 23:7
And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
2 Kings 23:6-8 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)
More from King James Version
1. SODOMITES
2. BLINDNESS » Miraculously inflicted upon the Sodomites (Genesis 19:11)
3. JUDGMENTS » Sodomites (Genesis 19:23-25)
4. SODOMY » See SODOMITES
5. ADULTERY » INSTANCES OF » Sodomites (Genesis 19:5-8)
6. DEATH » AS A JUDGMENT » Sodomites (Genesis 19:12,13,24,25)
7. LASCIVIOUSNESS » INSTANCES OF » Sodomites (Genesis 19:5)
8. OBDURACY (HARDNESS) » INSTANCES OF » Sodomites (Genesis 19:9,14)
9. SIN » INSTANCES OF » The Sodomites (Genesis 18:20)
10. WOMEN » INSTANCES OF » The sodomites of the southern kingdom (Judah) (2 Kings 23:7)

Why does Hillary catch so much flak for not leaving Bill? Jackie Kennedy was admired and she had a cheating husband. Eleanor Roosevelt…same story.
I would think you would admire her for trying to save her marriage…you know keeping her marriage vows…for better, for worse. At least, I think that would be the Christian view.
Personally, I think she should have pasted him a good one along side the head but who am I to judge? I certainly don’t condemn her for staying with him.

LeeLee07: I cannot tell you how happy I am to read your post.

Bravo, Think. Thank you.

qazi63 …Please don’t use this trying to prove a point …Because most everyone in here has done this before they were married ok….So this talk about Bill doesn’t work..Please everyone clean out your own back door before you start cleaning on anyone elses…Everyone sins….But most didn’t do what Obama had done for 20 years …Then wants everyone to believe he didn’t …No real American is Buying it….

since the o j simpson trial i lost my faith in the reality of americas people. the clinton story as well is a good example of how far away the american people are, when it comes to reality.
does anybody thing hillary is playing a honest game????????
does anybody believe in bill clinton, after his lying since more than 20 years and his adultary …..?
As long as more than 40!!!!! % of US people believe, the sun circles the earth, there is no use to estimate them.
I guess, they would at least be prepared to make hillary the nominee.
Oh dear, america quo vadis!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up, barrack can help you….

Hillary does not care if Billy screws around, she has a woman on the side herself…..they have been together for a few years……. nothing like a sermon on adultery… interesting

The reason she stayed with him is because she found out that The White House and Air Force One are not community porperty.

@sieweke – About 50% of the Democrat Party believes in Hillary and Bill Clinton. They gave us 8 years of prosperity and Bill left office with a 65% approval rating, despite the scandal. How about you go check out Obama’s list of lies. I have posted them below for your benefit. When you get done, maybe you can explain to us why Obama lied so much…
OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! – LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS – You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!
60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning – LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS – He also seems to despise America.
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase – LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror – LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS – Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto – guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis – LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST – Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion – LIAR – [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama – the day after sitting for the interview – filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
65) I did NOT play the race card: – LIAR – [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here
66) I did not take money from oil companies: – LIAR – [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians.
Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates.
Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.
But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.
Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News
67) “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial,” Obama said at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. – LIAR – But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.
68) Look at my education record in Illinois – LIAR – In reality, Obama never really championed the local councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf. When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate-against protecting principals from unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what.
In the end, the resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn’t alleviate anyone’s concerns. Instead, it prolonged a turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since.
Much more so than we might believe.
1. Reports emanating from Africa allege his mother was in Kenya with his ARAB Kenyan (NOT Black Kenyan) father – this is clearly shown in Kenyan Govt. Registry documents which list the father as an Arab Kenyan – at a very late term of her pregnancy and was not allowed on a flight to return to HAWAII.
She gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered him as being born in Hawaii.
2. He is NOT an African American at all but an Arab American and cannot claim African minority status, which by US Federal regulations require a person to have 1/8 (one eighth) of the minority blood (12%).
From his mother he has 50% white blood, from his father he has 43.25% Arab BLOOD and from his MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER he manages to hold onto 6.75% African or Black heritage blood.
He has had to duck and weave all his life and use whatever lies he could use to even “pass for Black” and the benefits that this minority status provided. So even this, while understandable – IS A documented LIE.
(List of lies, courtesy of Erik – Thanks, Erik!)
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

@Eddie – Sorry, it really is not over until the lady in the pantsuit says so. Even if Obama wins the nom, he and Michelle will never get to curl their toes under the bedsheets in the master suite of the White House. Hillary’s supporters will see to that. Obama gets the nod, then he is DOA. Can you say President McCain????
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Vanessa: for people questioning Hillary’ motive in staying married to Bill Clinton, you should also question Jackie Onassis, Mrs. Larry Craig, Mrs. Bob Packwood, Mrs. Spritz, and strings of women in this whole too, perhaps your mothers. Do not limit this to Hillary. People stay married for a different reason, one thing is certain to me, they have a strong sense of themselves, they stay, perhaps for children, (see how well Chelsea has become even Caroline Kennedy cannot top Chelsea), perhaps for material comfort, perhaps for love. Perhaps Hillary truly loves Bill. So before any woman say something negative about Hillary staying with her man, perhaps that might want to ask yourself: Are you 100% certain that he is not cheating on you. And if he does, why are you still with him?

The church did not know about Senator Clinton coming until the night before. The sermon was already planned. I was there, and it was not presented at all the way many media are stating it was. It was focused on commitment.. adultery only being mentioned a time or two by the pastor. The sermon was very well presented and was not a political move on part of the church or the pastor. It is sad that there are personal comments being thrown towards the pastor. He was preaching a sermon that was part of a series and happened to be the topic when Senator Clinton came to the church. It was tactfully presented and you people that are making it sound like a personal attack or political move are simply not informed. Love the media spin…

Thanks BGresident – I was one of the people on this blog who called the preacher tacky. I am so glad you cleared it up. The way it was presented in the article did a disservice to your pastor. Maybe the author of the piece will read your post and correct her representation. My apologies.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

That pastor was out of line to deliver a sermon on this topic knowing Hilary Clinton would be in the audience. She was not the sinner, so why would he intentionally do something he must’ve known would make her uncomfortable?
This does not sound like a very Christian thing to do!
Note: I am an Obama supporter, but this was must a mean-spirited action clearly meant to hurt Hilary

Yeah it doesn’t matter how hard the media try to make Obama look good and that he’s something…Its not going to work witht the true Americans because the ones that have some brains about them know what kind of man he is ….No Obama ..No Wright and ..No Farrakhan…No G.D America.. God Bless America…And no we did not deserve 911….Hillary the one with brains to get America back on her feet….

What a great idea for a Southwest Airlines commercial
“want to get away?”

Hillary Was In The White House While Bill Cheated With Monica Lewinsky
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/hillary_was_in_the_white_house_when_bill_cheated_with_monica.htm

Some of these posters don’t, or won’t get it. The issue isn’t about BIll. Nor is it about her having to suffer humiliation because of Bill. The Poster who sais ” I doubt Monica Lewinski was the first…” probably typifies most who ignore the fact that a whole “war room” was created to counter, primarily “bimbo eruptions”. Get real.
And no, Hillary is not being chastened, either. But let’s not be silly thinking that she’s a woman who simply ‘forgave’ her husband. PULLEEZE. The article is simply pointing out the irony of having to sit through this sermon, since now she’s trying to appeal to those in the bible belt. The irony also applies since when she tried to make her stamp as a feminist she proudly crowed “I’m not going to be like Tammy Wynette and stand by your man, baking cookies, etc”.
If it wasn’t for her political, and monetary ambitions, which drove her from her early days as a lawyer (fighting unionization against Walmart, and TCBY no less), she wouldn’t be with Bill any more. Found her voice, my foot.
People are more disengaged than they realize, and no matter which of the three stooges we end up with (largely as a result of this disengagement) we are soooo screwed.

Meanwhile, Bill was busy stuffing a cigar in some 22 year old bimbo, and not having sex as oral doesn’t count.

Libby… It was a purposeful attack… it was planned prior. They found out the night before that she would be at the service. Again, it was not an aggressive sermon to attack anyone… including Senator Clinton. Consider the fact that it is being presented that way when it really wasn’t. Go listen to or watch the sermon when it is available.

@None of the Above – Stick it in your ear! I bet you call yourself a Christian too!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

For those of you who missed it the first time:
I think you Obama Supporters should be more concerned with Obama’s old flame, Larry Sinclair. That story has not been debunked yet, and Obama has not dismissed it as slander. Larry still has a lawsuit going and does not appear to be going anywhere, much to the delight of the Republicans. Likewise for Pastor Manning – his video says Obama and Wright was involved in an relationship. Still silence from the Obama front. If it is a lie, why isn’t he suing the pants off of these guys??? (Pardon the pun). We also haven’t heard anything from the Wrong Reverend Wright on the subject. That’s really suspicious. And let’s not forget the other stuff floating around here on these blogs – Yeah, the Republicans can’t wait… Hint – If you are living in a glass house…
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Well, PCC – I think you have given everyone something to think about. What say you, fellow Christians?
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Moe, Larry and Curly for President, at least they will make us laugh.

And I still think that even though the pastor didn’t know she was coming and had planned this sermon well in advance, The man upstairs knew she would be there. Perhaps he thought she needed to hear the value of being a faithful wife. Makes me wonder what he knows that we don’t.

Thank you ..LeeLee07…I think this article is some more of the media trying on the last days before Tuesday. Hillary has taken punch after punch from Obama and the media and still comes out looking like a winner…Who in their right mind doesn’t want change..The message that Obama is useing so so out there…Yes everyone wants change from Bush….And this is all Obama has …Change and Hope ..Hope and Change…Does he have anything different then this…Thats why he’s a empty suit….He’s weak in debates he has to have everything writen for him….And then we have Wright and Farrakhan..And all the muslims backing him…Whats that saying…Its telling and showing the true American’s what his change is all about…..

That is exactly the reason Hillary will never be President. She hung onto the cheating husband for money and power, thereby losing millions of Americans who would have otherwise supported her had she dumped the man in her loveless or none respectful marriage.

I still wouldn’t have voted for her, remember NAFTA.

Forget Harpee: Here’s the Minister’s opening of the sermon?
Paul Fryman of the State Street United Methodist Church asked the congregation, “How is your commitment level in your marriage this morning?’
Hillary I am sure would answer; “Just fine preech! Bill is out there working his you know what off for me. Thanks for asking. By the way is it true what they say; “He who doeth protest too much? ‘Cause it was true with the Republicans for ‘Family Values’. You’re a Republican aren’t you preech? Yeah, I know; you guys don’t go for young women you go for pages and other husbands if you’re male. Gee that must be hard.”

NAFTA made things bad for lots of Americans, my husband was one of them, his plant went overseas, he lost a good job, good benefits. He ended up having to go back to school to find a new job, that doesn’t pay as well and doesn’t have the same benefits and is further from home, So Hillary can chew on that for awhile, because I will never vote for her, they messed up alot and she knows it.

I am not a Hillary supporter , but man I can feel for her.I don’t care who you are voting for – some of you should be ashamed of yourselves for even attempting to make this an issue- this is her personal life. What SHE chooses to do in her personal life is no business of ours and only becomes an American issue if SHE does something wrong. None of us know what happened in the Clinton marriage or what counseling they went through after his adultery- who are we to judge? If you’re an Obama supporter you know darn well this isn’t how we should conduct ourselves. ugh.ewww. and on a Sunday too? yuck.

@disgusted – Thank you!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Good Lord People! Bill gotta hummer – & she told… not his first dalliance out side his “marriage” by anyone’s tally. The big frickin’ deal is that he PERJURED himself about it. No “je ne sais quoi” there. Slimy attorney, aka “Slick Willy”, LOST HIS ABILITY TO PRACTICE LAW for a year because of this. The big deal is we know who counselled him – his “brainiac” (snort) spouse whose now running for POTUS. If they weren’t smart enough to realize that acknowledging the incident & then asking for the next topic was the right way to handle the situation & instead chose perjury (remember they are both Ivy League trained attorneys, even though she couldn’t pass the DC bar) then they should not be in public office… looking over shoulder to make sure not being pursued by Arkansas Sudden Death Syndrome… total slimy self-serving power hungry creeps. No wonder Big Ted Kennedy stiffed ‘em – he couldn’t stand the competition at the trough!

Hillary didn’t sign the NAFTA agreement created under BUSH and left for Bill to have to sign it. Hillary and her witness George Stephanapolis (however you spell his name)stood against the trade agreement. Bill wanted her to promote it. In any case we all thought that the trade agreement would make things economically better for Mexico and in turn us. That is why Hillary now says it needs to be tweeked. See trade helps the economy of nations involved. A better world economy would lead to a better world. Now, workers rights is a whole other issue. When the Industrial era began here in the United States, child labor was exploited which is why we have such stringent child labor laws. Now those changes need to occur in rising Third World countries, with our help (pressure) and our economic leverage over all. Any countries wanting to trade will have to deal politically and through legislation with the labor issues. Workers rights is an endless fight.

That Pastor was just looking for His 15 Minutes of Fame. He should be preaching good Subjects not Sin. He is A Buffoon. I am A Republican and do not like to see People made to feel bad. He is A Bully. “He who is without Sin, let Him cast the first Stone.”

OMG, irma, I cannot believe you bought that line, she and bill were both for NAFTA, I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night, I remember.

“It’s “over” when there is a nominee, the “lady” (term used loosely) in the pantsuit has no say in the matter.”
Since Obama will not get enough delegates to become the nominee, Hillary can take it all the way to the convention and she will, just like Ted Kennedy did when he was behind about 700 delegates. So yes, it is NOT over until the lady in the pantsuit says so. Obama does not get to make the rules, so deal with it.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

JR…Millions of men and women have cheated for years. Don’t act like you don’t know that. The Clinton’s are past all that and it seems to me their marriage is very strong from it. They seem very much in love.
Alot of men ask for a divorce and take off with another woman or vice versa. The children are devasted by it. They made a wise decision and got over it. I know I am. She’s still the best one for President. None of this has anything to do with her intelligence and ability to lead this country. However, it seems to me that only the ones that are voting for Obama have a problem with anything the Clinton’s do.
You should start thinking about the problems Obama has. His church, do you remember right. They came out so that he could make a speech and shut everybody up about his disgusting Pastor and he disappeared. Worked like a charm. Just remember his Pastor also said that he would be at the White House when Obama is President. There’s a real problem. Can’t you just picture their celebration??? Obama, Michelle, Wright, Ayers, Auchi, Rezko, Alsammarae, Farrakhan, Hamas, Black Panthers, etc. etc. etc . WHAT A COUNTRY!!!

Bill jumped one bimbp after another and did more banging than a screen door in a hurricane. Why would Hillary be bothered by Monica?

She wasn’t opposed to NAFTA, she was all for it, BUT she wanted her health care plan voted in FIRST, which wasn’t going to happen even if it had been voted on first it was a disaster, might I add this is the same health care plan she is using for the campaign, mandatory health care for everyone whether you can afford it or not, if you don’t have it you get fined, It wasn’t realistic then and it isn’t realistic now.

I think this was very inappropriate to write about.
I am not a Hillary supporter, but I do think she is due privacy when attending a church service.
This is a cheap shot and I thought beneath ABC News.
If this is true then what about Obama & all the crap he sat on his dumpy political butt & listened to in church all these years??? Never once did he ever speak up against any of it until his chance to become president became at stake!!! I’m very glad that didn’t remain a private matter kept untold by the news media!
Our religious beliefs & faith–or lack of–are a part of each & everyone of us. It is good that the media is giving reports like this even though they may appear to be trivial in importance.

I guess it really does boil down to what the meaning of the word “is” is. It’s a question that will have to be answered in all 57 states!

So I went to finish dinner and I come back and see what drivel has been written- So here was my point- Hillary supporters don’t think it’s fair if she is judged because of what Bill did. Obama supporters don’t think it’s fair if he is judged for what his former pastor did. McCain’s supporters haven’t even had to defend what people he knows have said..YET. It is all guilt by association. We either judge everyone by the actions of their acquaintances or we can judge NOONE. You can’t bend the rules to favor your candidate and live in some dream world where you are always right.
My main point was perhaps if we can discuss the issues then maybe we will all find that we are looking for the same thing come January 2009. But hey if you want to keep playing the blame game then have fun.. drive away the supporters that we ( no matter who’s side we are on) should want to embrace not only in November but for the future of our country. Whatever makes you guys happy- because none of this bickering over this inconsequential garbage is going to put food in my kids mouths. How about yours?
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Great post! I like you wished there was more talk about political issues and not about things types of personal issues. However, I have a feeling that WHEN Mr. Obama secures the nomination soon, you’ll still have MANY Clinton supporters who WON’T talk about politics, but about these ‘rumors’ and ‘gossip’ concerning Mr. Obama because Mrs. Clinton couldn’t win the Democratic nomination.

Barack Obama is stupid, ignorant, and absolutely a pathetic liar…..

Welcome to the 21 century, where the american people are given the choice between a doddering senile old fool, a woman with no morals, and the anti-christ, no wonder this country is in so much trouble.

Hillary is such a phony. She’s in church only because its campaign season. Her marriage is fake – her husband is a serial cheater and she doesn’t care. She only cares if he gets caught and it harms her political aspirations. That she could sit through such an appropriate sermon, straight-faced, acting oblivious, only proves how phony she really is.

WH
hen are we going to start talking about these Democrats being neo-Socialists?

When are we going to start talking about these Democrats being neo-Socialists?

Shay ….You are right up there with Obama ….stupid,and ignorant…Oh if i don’t vote Obama im ignorant….No i don’t think it’s ok to G.D America like you and Obama do ..And i don’t think we deserved 911..Like you and Obama do…Im a hard working blue-collar worker that knows a stupid,and ignorant man like you and Obama….And that makes me very smart….

When are we going to start talking about these Democrats being neo-Socialists?

LeeLee she will say it’s over on June 4th. Then you can spend you days telling everyone why they should vote for John McCain.

Despite the delusional rantings of the blind obama sheep, barack hussien obama will NEVER be President of The United States. His name for one is very UNamerican. His inexperience is pitiful,his weakness is pathetic and his color is questionable to millions of voters,

LOL Here we go with the name calling …We should have known this was coming….Thats all Obama followers know …Is to call people names and Change and Hope and Hope and Change…LOL..LOL…God how stupid!

Why, thank you, Mike. If it is over on June 4th, I will throw my support whole-heartedly behind John McCain. That’s just how most of us Hillary Supporters feel. We feel it is our job to make sure Obama and Michelle will never see the inside of the master bedroom suite in the White House. lol.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Jed… Are you suggesting preachers do not preach on topics such as commitment and sin? Sure… people would love to hear of the cheerful things that make them feel like they are always doing right. Looking for fame? No. If he had known that she was going to be there and changed the sermon just for that to try to catch attention… sure.. but that’s not the case here. This pastor is getting flack from people like you because of ridiculous spin. Inform yourself before you speak.

You can’t blame Bubba. Did you really expect him to stick his cigars in Hillary’s rotted crotch?

The only sniper fire Hillary had to worry about was what was dripping from her rotted crotch.

I’m so glad Hillary will not be the Democratic candidate. I have voted Republican 4 times, but not this time. I want real change. No real conservative could vote for McCain and his NeoCon cronies, and Hillary is owned by Jewish money and these traitor outsourcing corporations. We’d be fighting for Israel another 8 years under her too and watching our jobs go to India and China.

So, Bill has probably been unfaithful from the beginning. Any of us can be so, and more since none us are Perfect. Remember Gennifer Flowers? What I find REALLY appalling is there is no reportage about how dreadfully flawed all three front runners are. Two Marxist-Socialists on the one side, and a self-decieved Liberal Republican masquerading as a Conservative on the other are making headlines every day now, but no one is telling the Truth about these Losers. Unless we wake from our Slumber, America as we knew it is doomed to be the New Caliphate!

First of all, thank you BGresident, for that info from attending the sermon. And thanks for your church welcoming Hillary and the pastor giving a thoughtful and uplifting sermon.
Also, thanks to the many, even Obama supporters who told this ABC news blogger what you thought of the presentation on this topic. The sentiment is appreciated by Hillary supporters, to be sure.
Now, I’m going to suggest a couple of things that are counter to the prevailing opinions.
First, I think this topic of Hillary attending church and what the sermon topic was is relevant. People have an interest in how Hillary would deal with and handle something that she acknowledges was a painful time in her life. And thanks to Republicans, we all witnessed it.
Second, I would not be so sure that the minister did not know Hillary would be there and Hillary did not know what the sermon would be about. I could be wrong, but it would be unusual for Secret Service not to check whether with the minister whether it would be ok for Hillary to attend his sermon.
Along those same lines, this is an issue that certainly is an issue, and this is a way for Hillary to have addressed it. To sit there and listen to the word of God concerning faithfulness and commitment, including adultery. She demonstrates what all of us want to see, leaders who are humble enough to listen to word of wisdom and the teaching of God.
Lastly, had the minister given a Reverend Wright sermon, Hillary would have walked out.
That’s the difference between Hillary and Obama.
Hillary ’08

Hillary has a long enough list of her own deadly sins, which does not include any thing provabable about adultery. Consider THESE REASONS WHY SHE SHOULD NOT BE PROMOTED OR GIVEN A PASS BY ABC:
100 REASONS HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
IS A PERSON UNSUITABLE TO BE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
1. Hillary Clinton is not likeable.
2. Hillary Clinton is more interested in her own power than America or the goals of her party.
3. She is not generally an honest person.
4. She has a poor sense of humor.
5. She has a shallow sense of loyalty, excepting for relationships beneficial to herself and the accumulation of her power.
6. She is venal.
7. She has little political experience outside of being First Lady and a carpet bagging Senator in another state where she has spent little time.
8. She shows willingness to tolerate immoral and illegal conduct if it benefits her.
9. She is not inspiring leader.
10. Hillary Clinton is secretive and unwilling to be forthright in most matters.
11. She is a lawyer with a poor sense of justice and little regard for the Constitution.
12. She is willing to twist clear meaning of the Constitution and other laws, just to enhance her own power.
13. She has influenced the Clinton Administration to put unsuitable persons in office.
14. She has influenced the Clinton Administration to unjustly dismiss good civil servants for improper reasons to replace them with persons loyal to her.
15. She was implicated in the mysterious death of her law partner.Vincent Foster, and the unscrupulous events of its aftermath at the White House.
16. She shows contemptuous disdain for those who do not agree with her completely.
17. Hillary Clinton is a feminist with a low opinion of the traditional wife and mother.
18. Hillary Clinton has shown disrespect and aversion toward the U. S. military.
19. She is not inspirational and does not inspire patriotism in others.
20. Hillary Clinton is a political flip-flopper, blowing with the latest favorable wind.
21. She lacks charm and charisma in excepting in staged situations.
22. She was never a military veteran and shows no ability promote esprit, so as to command men in a dangerous military crisis.
23. She has had many willing associations with persons having criminal histories.
24. Hillary Clinton has made extensive use of bullies, government employees and private police against imagined enemies, public and private.
25. She has been involved in numerous episodes of illegal election practices.
26. She is married to an impeached President, a man of low character, a disbarred lawyer and perpetual adulterer.
27. She has used government property and resources for her own personal benefit.
28. She has allowed her brothers to be involved in questionable activity exploiting the Clinton Administration’s use of official pardons.
29. She has failed to maintain propriety in matters appearing to be indirect bribes to herself and her husband.
30. She does not consider open homosexuality to be unseemly or immoral.
31. She allowed the White House to be trashed and items to be misappropriated upon her departure.
32. Hillary Clinton is deeply distrusted by Secret Service agents, a palpably negative recommendation for any future Chief Executive.
33. Personnel appointments made at her behest were generally disastrous to her husband’s Administration and to the country. She is a poor judge of people.
34. She has few accomplishments as a US Senator. She has a mediocre record as a legislator, lacking innovation and consistency with her public pronouncements.
35. Her one executive commission, national health care reform in the early 1990s, was an enormous debacle, exposing her personal ineptitude and furtiveness.
36. She has shown insufficient understanding of the worldwide terrorist menace.
37. Hillary Clinton will gladly raise taxes on the middle class.
38. She is an advocate of bigger government of a more a draconian character.
39. She did not prevent her husband’s Administration from using the IRS to persecute women with whom he had been sexually involved.
40. She is in favor of abortion on demand, including Partial Birth Abortion.
41. She insulted Tammy Wynette.
42. She is in favor of regulating the Internet.
43. She is unwilling to take a chance, especially in the cause of liberty.
44. Hillary Clinton is always safely scripted, so no unexpected questions will be ever be answered; little will be learned of her real positions.
45. She has no guiding principles, other than her own opportunities.
46. Hillary Clinton claims that she is “not a liberal.”
47. She has a shrill, scolding voice.
48. Hillary Clinton does not command respect of a majority of American men.
49. She has a poor grasp of economics.
50. She has a voting record, which strongly supports Socialist positions, and a pro-Marxian philosophy.
51. Her writings have embraced Marxist ideology and a destructive social revolution.
52. She shows little respect for property rights, excepting her own.
53. Hillary Clinton would make America appear weak before our allies and enemies.
54. She shows distain for the Bill of Rights, particularly the 2nd, 9th and 10th Amendments.
55. She favors appointment of judges who would twist constitutional principles.
56. She has demonstrated no background for managing large or small institutions.
57. She has poor interpersonal skills.
58. Hillary Clinton has a bad memory.
59. She favors infringement of the Second Amendment in every manner possible.
60. She lacks religious conviction, but will pretend religiosity when expedient.
61. She shows a very nasty disposition, if criticized or frustrated.
62. Hillary Clinton has no common touch with most ordinary Americans.
63. She has maintained a cadre of public employees whose sole purpose was to deflect criticism, investigate her imagined enemies, and spin her good press.
64. She favors amnesty for millions of illegal aliens residing in the United States.
65. She has no vision for America’s future beyond attainment of the presidency.
66. Hillary Clinton has not supported the war in Iraq beyond voting for it and sustaining it financially, a contradiction of pricipal.
67. She has undermined the prosecution of the Iraqi war in many ways, for personal political advantage, giving comfort to our enemies.
68. She has no plan for the successful resolution to our position in the Middle East.
69. She has never held a real job not connected to government or Bill Clinton’s legal interests in Arkansas. She has little executive experience, even at the lowest level.
70. She has been unwilling to allow exposure of tax returns and government documents generated in her tenure as First Lady in Arkansas and Washington.
71. She claimed she made $100,000 from a $1,000 investment in cattle futures within days by reading the Wall Street Journal…thereby concealing an obvious bribe.
72. Hilary Clinton used confidential FBI files, government databases and sensitive public records to form an Enemies List for personal and political uses.
73. She has actively encouraged felons and persons of bad character to solicit massive amounts of funds for her from questionable and illegal sources.
74. She is married to a former president who would destabilize her administration by confusing loyalties and continuity of control and management.
75. She has purposely allowed innocent women, importuned and sexually harassed by her husband to be publicly maligned and persecuted for her political advantage
76. Hilary Clinton is unable to handle real criticism and personal pressure.
77. Her involvement in a disreputable real estate scam with people of poor character lead her to actively cover up improprieties, harm investors and lie to officials
78. She is a political bully, willing to allow intimidation and blackmail of her detractors, imagined enemies and journalists to affect favorable outcomes.
79. Hilary Clinton is not a woman of principle, but a triangulator like her husband, without his ability to portray the impression of principle when things unravel.
80. She is not generally trusted, and this trait is anathema in a national crisis.
81. She would allow massive numbers of illegal aliens to come into our country, depleting our resources and breaking our laws, for her political advantage.
82. She voted against English as being America’s official language.
83. Exhibiting a dreadful temper, she has thrown articles at her husband and government staff, and shows an inability to control her bad language and behavior
84. She never admits flaws and seldom shows her human side.
85. After sucking it dry for all press value possible, she then dumped the First Cat, Socks, on Betty Currie, as soon as she left the White House.
86. Contrary to most laws, Hilary Clinton wants a special holiday declared for elections, allowing anyone without identification or with a felony record to vote.
87. She is never what she seems: she is highly scripted; costumed and botoxed; ever ready to use planted questioners, coached journalists and a revised autobiography.
88. Hilary is a stubborn person, compromising only for personal reasons.
89. She has undermined the feminist cause, when doing so is politically experdient.
90. She is obsessed with secrecy. Whatever the reasons, this is a poor Presidential trait, which could lead to undemocratic practices, and illegal cover up.
91. She has a paranoid streak, unseemly and dangerous for a person heading the most powerful nuclear state on the planet.
92. Hilary Clinton lacks a sense of honor.
93. Her terms as a US Senator are totally unremarkable and mainly self-serving.
94. She voted against a Partial Birth Abortion ban, essentially legalizing the murder of live babies. A president’s primary duty is to protect life and liberty.
95. Her Clinton Administration, like previous ones, would be mired again in embarrassing sexual scandals, corruption charges and distractions from goals.
96. Once instituted as Commander-in-Chief, she would be unwilling to strengthen and uphold those in uniform, much less ever learn to salute them properly.
97. She is essentially against free trade with foreign countries and deeply misunderstands capital flow.
98. A future Hilary Clinton Administration will be compromised by questionable campaign donations from criminals and anti-American foreign contributors.
99. Hillary Clinton says she would not have started the war in Iraq and would end it immediately. Yet she has always voted oppositely and expediently.
100. As with some other far-left Democrats, Hillary’s “change” would be Marxist in nature, and lead to the loss of Americans’ personal liberties and national pride.

To the person who seems to believe my husband is unfaithful with a “string of whores.” What makes you think I am married?

ObamaKnew – that is fantastic news, I am praying she will somehow pull it thru. She does have a chance.
rd – point taken. Thanks.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

You’re all stupid.
Obama, McCain, and Hillary are more of the same. You had your chance with Kucinich or Ron Paul, but you threw it away and now bicker about people who lack virtue entirely. Then you complain about ABC — the same network that lead you down the path to these moron candidates that we have today.

You forgot #101 The stench from Hillary’s crotch rot would never be tolerated by other heads of state.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt Carol. I’m sorry as it’s not clear that you allow your dogs to rape you.

Why do people feel the need to use vulgar language and insults to express an opposing opinion? It lessens the impact of that person’s stance…makes the person sound downright ignorant, in fact.

Boy Hillary’s list looks a whole lot better then Obama list of lies…..Don’t think i would show that list anymore…

Poor Hillary she has been through so much, she deserves a pity vote at least.

Trash is as trash does and God and everybody else knows that Bilge Clinton is trash. He was trash in Arkansas, trash in the White House and continues to be trash on his wife’s(?) campaign. The most
unfortunate aspect of his trash complex
is that there are people in this country who respect trash if it has power and money. A pox on all their houses.

@Carol- agreed, agreed! From both sides comes language that neither represents nor identifies their candidate’s strength or character. My hope is that all of us can look past the hurtful language and look for the “good” people- on both sides. Makes me wonder if some of these posters are even old enough to vote. Nice to see we can agree on something here, even if we don’t agree on candidates.
Obama ’08

Why would Hillary’s crotch be any different than your mother’s crotch? After all, she reared your nasty butt! Get off the blog, you cretin – you are sickening to everyone.

The funny thing about all of this is that I am neither a support of Clinton OR Barak…but I fail to see how Sen. Clinton is accountable for her husband’s faults….

According to Bill Clinton, the act Monica performed on him does not rise to the level of adultry. I think every married man owes him a thank you as he has created case law. I just hope his hand wasn’t close to the button while it was going on, he could have pushed it by mistake while she had him writhing around, firing an ICBM at the Russians…

andtherealissueis: You want Obama to win so you are trying to destroy Hillary. I support Hillary all the way. It will never work. She is the best candidate out of the ones that are running. Obama is the last one I would choose. He is a corrupt Chicago mobster. His role in the Rezko case is deep and is ongoing. There is a lot more to come on this story. Larry Sinclair too. I hope they close in on him soon. All of the Obama supporters are going to feel like fools! But, why haven’t you researched his past? When I think about how many of you have wanted to make him our President with all of the facts that I know, it makes me wonder how intelligent some of you are. We have the internet. We don’t have to depend on the biased media. Research for yourself. What could be more important. This will affect us for years to come. It could even change this country from an awful position from this administration to an even more dire situation than this. Do we want a president that only votes present to preserve his candidacy for a second term??? He has no stance on anything. He will have to ask Hillary what she would do. He knows she has the answers. I don’t think when he is President he will ask her though. I think he will ask his mentor Wright. Wright will then check with Farrakhan. Then if Michelle approves he will act on the decision. How blind can some of you be???

Can voters accept all the Clinton garbage again? We need real change.
Bill is out of control and so is Hillary

Norbit – you must be about 13 and a virgin. I can think of no other reason why your posts are all relating to body parts and s@x. You seem extremely immature. No man would post the type of graphic drivel you do. Do you understand what I am saying? Please leave this blog if you cannot offer anything substantive to say. No one finds your posts enlighting or relevant to the subject at hand. This is my last post to you, little boy. I am not going to respond to you – I am just going to freeze you out. I won’t even read your posts, I usually read the names first, so it won’t be a problem. BTW, I hope the other bloggers on here do the same thing. That is, not respond to you at all. You will just be ignored. Go to bed!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Personally, I am not in favor of any of the 3 possible candatites.
However, I have looked at the Clinton’s daughter and wondered all my life why they didn’t have any more children. Was it because one was too busy sowing hay?

Darn..I think Norbit actually took my advice and went to bed..It was actually sort of fun all of us agreeing and dare I say “uniting” against one common enemy..lol oh well maybe over the next few months we can identify America’s common enemy and come together when we as people need it most ?! :) By the way I heard part of HRC’s stump speech today and the part of it where she compares the country to a car?She says if you want the country to move forward put it in D and backward put it in R..lol oh that was pretty good stuff! My husband and I both agreed it was quite an analogy and makes perfect sense.
Democrat ’08 (my preference is Obama:)

@disgusted – Who would have ever thought Norbit would be our uniter? lol.
You are right, it was very nice.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!’08
(It ain’t over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

I’ll just go out on a limb here and say “you’re ALL losers” .. judging others when your own lives are hilarious, sitting inside making comments on a web site, somehow believing your own marriage is perfect, and last but not least – you’re ALL pathetic!! Clintons, Obama, McCain, Bush, Reagan, Kerry, blah blah blah .. regardless of what they’ve done OR not done – I’m sure it’s way better then the pathetic existence you all live! Enjoy your evening .. LOL! Losers ..

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy..s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman..s 17-year career.
Why?
“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.
http://augustcandi.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/hillary-clinton-fired-for-lyingunethical-behavior/

Oh Norbit!!! I was afraid you had to have mommy help you wash your No-No spots during your bath and wouldn’t come back to join us!
Well good! I have an important question for you ! Can you tell me please which candidate you would like to win the Presidential race and cite at least one policy of that candidate as an important reason you support them?
I will eagerly await your answer- no cheating tho! Children get grounded if they get caught cheating…
Obama ’08

Hillary and Bill may have begun as a marriage but early on it transformed itself into nothing more than a business partnership with the focus on politics.

The first mistake was walking into a church, then they made another mistake by listening to an hour long sermon that puts impossible expectations on people. I mean think about it, an obvious plan by the sermon giver to publicly humiliate her/him, and they smiled through it and shook his hand?! Because he wears a robe and stands at a pulpit? All to appease the bible belt rednecks?! They both deserve it.

longjohnson
he was outside door peddling lewinsky cigars for willarys campaign

Please poeple. Get a grip. He hurt the office of the President by not stepping down. These clintons feel as if they are entitled to the White House. Well, as I have to say is, “Ding Doung the Witch is Dead.” See is out of the race, thank God. She is evil and nothing good can come from here leading our great country.
besides, Mcain will win. get over it. ABC is slanted..to the left. So is CNN, CNS, CNN, MSNBC. But, not Fox. So to all those that whine about news slant understand the Clintons are not well liked in DC.
Maxx

disgusted – I’m sorry, but the attendance and associations of people we are choosing to be President are the most important factors there are to know these people. It is not personal and none of our business, it is who they are and the foundations of them as a person.
Obama’s associations and being a member of a Black Liberation Theology church, pastored by GD America Wright, mentored by anti-Jewish Farakan, and his association with Marxist Ayers funneling money to Hamas supporters, not to mention his political godfather being the Syrian Rezko funded by Saddam moneyman Auchi, can’t be wished away by saying that what preachers say in church is personal.
Not when it’s our country at stake. If he wasn’t running for president, then fine they can rail against whitey all they want and it’s just Illinois’ business.
However, if something irrelevant is posted about Obama I would also join you in condemning the message. I think for example unkind words are said about his hesitation in speech, stuttering they unkindly say, and I believe he is just trying to be thoughtful. If a news blogger posted an article on that I would consider that not appropriate.
Hillary ’08

obamaknew
the only reason obama lost so badly in west virginia—he forgot his sheet and pillocase

obamaknew
you sure are thick and do not understand the insinuation

dwilson
you use the word lady very loosly

disgusted08
the biggest difference is they were not in white house setting an example for our children–daddy who is jennifer–who is monica-was she smoking cigars-i think you get the picture

Sad indeed. Americans want change yet the continue to vote the same career politicians back into office. That,s pathetic.

I’m an Obama supporter, and have been very hard on Clinton. But as a woman I have to say that this strikes me as very cruel. Whether the pastor did it intentionally or her staff just didn’t vet the church/sermon, this was just mean. To put her in that situation with the national media watching her every blink? Come on…

Rodney- I get the point, I just don’t see how that is relevant. Just as I don’t see how the rest of the “stories” that get so many people upset , that have not been proved or disproved do. Adultery is a painful thing for any family, and I think Chelsea turned out just fine. I am proud to see Obama and his family so happy and free of that sort of baggage, but I have to admit I would not look at him any differently if this story were about him.
It just doesn’t say anything bad about HER that she chose to stay and try and work it out. IMO it just doesn’t.
I was not defending her crappy gas tax plan, I can tell you that much, but here I will.
Obama ’08

cj
she could have avoided all of this-simply by divorcing the bum she is married to.she is low by association and we cannot change that–she ca n still do that but money and power is more important.

obamaknew
just the facts straight and simple.
picture them voting for colored person
learn a little about their senator.
what world do you live in===fantasyland

DISGUSTED
CHELSEA IS THE INNOCENT VICTIM IN ALL OF THIS

but the Clinton’s past has been dug into, with 70 million dollars of taxpayer money by the Republicans, and we see what they were able to dig up. And sure they will keep repeating it and throwing it in their faces. But that means the Clinton’s have been vetted. It’s been through the legal fronts and everyone knows the results.
I am so sorry to tell you that the 527′s have so much to work with with Obama that it’s like striking gold for them. The Republican’s will go after Obama same as they did the Clinton’s and if you though you heard a lot about Whitewater and Monica, you haven’t seen anything yet.
They have only one goal, to utterly destroy a person. Hillary survived 16 years of it, Obama has been treated with kid gloved and he and his supporters will be devastated by the ferocity and ugliness of what people will witness in 527 commercials around the clock.
You can say it’s unfair, call for McCain to condemn it, etc., and certainly Obama has media cheerleaders who will resist as much as possible publicizing it, but Democrats will be going the route of McGovern in ’72, Dukakis in ’86, and Kerry in ’04 in the Dem candidate being destroyed by Republican dirty tricks.
I personally believe that Obama is the only major candidate that can’t survive the GE this year. We would win with Hillary, Biden, Edwards, Richardson, ceratinly some non-candidates like Bayh and Gore, even though I supported Wes Clark in ’04 I don’t think he, Dodd, and Kucinich would catch the public’s votes, but Obama has unprecedented baggage that will be used to absolutely detroy our chances this year.
On the other hand, Hillary is just the better candidate than all of the above and so for me it is for Hillary.
Hillary ’08

Rodney- Don’t yell at me LOL. I agree she is a victim. But watching her she sure doesn’t seem worse for the wear right? She seems pretty darn happy to be with her parents. Every individual deals with the situation differently.

disgusted
she is a adult now-and probably very forgiving—if you were hillary how would you explain willy to her as a child.

Rodney- Hmmm interesting. I guess I would have judged her maturity and explained to her as much as she could have understood. That’s what I do when my kids come to me with questions about difficult situations ( or uncomfortable questions for a parent to answer ie: sex, drugs..etc). Then I assume since they are loaded that they had dome sort of family counseling, and it seems alot of church.
I don’t know for sure, can’t say I have ever had to explain that one to my kids. The American public took it well though as they explained to us the bare minimums..and here she is with almost 50% of the Dem vote.
We can disagree I just don’t see any point in being disagreeable. One of the things I find most appealing about BO is his disgust at this old time political distraction machine, you know?
Obama ’08

Why don’t we all write in Elmo, at least then the kids would be amused during the presidential speechs.

Observing Bill Clinton’s almost daily petulant temper tantrums when an audience member expresses support for the Obama candidacy suggests that Slick is very close to loosing it. The “serial groper” is unable to accept the fact that he’s trying to peddle a defective product; i.e. the Serial Enabler, Hillary. This is a woman who hasn’t managed so much as a corner vegetable stand, or for that matter her own marriage; but, of course you could count Whitewater, and her tenure as “Madam” for Bill’s White House Brothel. So what possibly is there that qualifies Bill’s official “Bimbo Containment Chief” for the Presidency? Further, Hillary’s increasingly frequent crying jags raises a legitimate concern about her mental stability. But, having meticulously planned their coveted return to the White House for several years now, the Clintons will certainly not exit the scene with grace or dignity. This is the political duo that honed “The Politics Of Personal Destruction” into an artform; and, most certainly will not tolerate, who is in their mind, the “upstart Obama” to derail Hillary’s pre-choreographed coronation. Greg Neubeck

greg
thanks–you are fully aware of the truth–people in these positions must be held responsible-and accountable

Wow. I would have loved to have been at that service to see the expression on her face….

Hillary regularly attends church while she is campaigning…Has anyone seen or heard of Obama attending? I get it..He is devoted to only one church…the corrupt, hate America church..It’s a slow day in blogging when this is all you have to do….critize Bill and Hillary about a church sermon at a church they attended..I am voting Hillary, or McCain…I cringe to think of what this USA will be like with that inexperienced, socialist in the White House…Hmmmmmm, will they WH be renamed Black House, or Mixed House…Be careful Obama supporters..You may just get more than you asked for…

I wonder if she thought of Web Hubbell.

Obama says to be nice and I heartily agree. Leave the lady alone alone about this deeply personal issue. There are so many things that the media should cover, but they neglect those to say things like this. Disgustingly cruel.

Obamaknew- I appreciate your candid answer. While I understand how unknown some people think he is, I really encourage you to read one of his books. He describes growing up being part of 2 worlds and how difficult is was for him to come to terms with never fitting in completely with one. I can’t even imagine it to be honest with you, how hard that must have been. His journey brought him to a place in life where he realized he didn’t have to fit neatly into one of these categories..that it was okay to just be himself..to just be a decent human being. That is what makes him special and what makes his supporters such a diverse group of people… the realization that noone is perfect in the eyes of society and that we all have one common goal.
That is part of the change he talks about..that and to change the way politics has been dedicated to making the rich richer off of the sweat and tears of the poor.
As I have stated before, I find both the Dem nominees to have very agreeable policies and ideas to turn this country around. I just trust him more..based on research and my own “gut” feeling. I would not for one instant tell you how to feel towards either of them. I just ask that you look into him somewhere other then negative postings before you write him off.
Obama ’08

The ONLY reason that Hillary stayed with this SOB was she wanted to further her own political career. Hey Hillary, how’s that working for ‘ya?

ObamaKnew,
If I were friends with you, should I be blamed for your incisiveness and racial remarks? Say this is 2-in-1 here.
Traditionally, I have seen many condemn the “white” race, or the “black” race, but this is the first time I’ve seen a person get bitter over a “biracial.” Well, nah. Malcom X once disapproved of himself. I would be disappointed if that has been your motivation for using words like “bipolar” to describe Obama.
A few people here have avoided the trap of condemning either nominee, and that should serve as an example to you. Left for ppl like you, your world would be full of those who share your opinions, or insults would be hurled at just any form and degree of variation. What’s more, you’d call them facts. Think before you speak!

Obamknew- In my opinion the MSM are the race baiters..the minute they started their “Exit polling” by classifying voters by race, sex,religion and income they became the true evil. It is a slap in the face to those that actually took the time to go vote by saying some votes are inconsequential because of the color of their skin or their votes are more important because of the church they belong to.
As for feeling sorry for him, that was not the point of my post. You wanted to know more about him and I happened to have that information for you. His mom died so she can’t be by his side right now. As for his grandparents, I know his grandma has been with him for some parts of the campaign but I can’t say anything about grandpa, I honestly don’t know. His family that can be there is there for him during the campaign… and he is proud to have them by his side, regardless of their color.
Obama ’08

lucyp
thanks

Mirror, mirror on the wall…
So many double standards, where to begin? Hmmmm…
No, not talking about the Clintons – but about all of us..
If ‘our’ candidate is attacked, made uncomfortable or victim of maliciousness, we are outraged!
However, if it’s ‘the other one’, then do we snicker and gleefully grin?
No matter who you support, if you believe your candidate of choice supports disrespectful and negative posts, spreading unfounded rumours about another – then perhaps you should take another look at your candidate and yourself.
Deal with policies, program issues and pertinent data – remember, negativeness just breeds more of the same.
I don’t believe Senators Clinton, Obama or McCain would support any of the snark and worse that’s being posted here, there and everywhere.
Remember, do unto others…..
Hopefully, each of them wants to lift us up and in order to do that, we must stop tearing ourselves down!

Too bad the minister didn’t talk about lesbianism.

i would say this to everyone
forget race and gender for a moment
clintons sold out our country—mainly NAFTA—CHINESE TRADE AGREEMENTS
MCcain—too tight with george bush-senseless war in iraq.no end in sight same values.
obama–some issues but certainly nothing as serious as the other two.
as i felt when voting for catholic jfk,
maybe give the new guy a chance if wrong we can vote him out in four years.
perhaps you can see the trees for the forest

Sorry, I meant Bravo, Obama &Hagel 2008, not Think. I misread how these bloody comments are linked to posters. Your uplifting post early on was just right.

BARACK OBAMA DRAWS CROWD OF 75,000 IN OREGON Sunday. Reports say crowd size of a “City.”
Help me Hillary fans, I can’t seem to find ANY stories about Hillary on any of the major blogs today, except this one about Bill….
OBAMA = The democratic Nominee and next president!
Hillary = Irrelevant…Sore Loser…
Bye bye Hillary and Bubba!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama for President 2008!

Ana
RFLMFAO

Ana,
That is because all she stayed married to him all these years for, was to for him to help her with her blind ambition to become president!
Now that he helped blow that up acting like a loose canon rolling around the deck, I agree 100% with you!!
She just needs to get on her broom and fly away now!!!

Setting the record straight …
I had the absolute privilege of being present during the infamous worship service attended by Sen. Clinton today and I want everyone to know the truth of the matter.
To Pastor Fryman – You were in the middle of a ‘verse by verse’ sermon series your congregation had been studying for several months on Christ’s sermon on the mount found in the book of Matthew. You had planned this sermon weeks ago and had no advance warning of the Senator’s arrival. In fact, you were only contacted by the Secret Service about the Senator’s arrival on Saturday evening which is the same time they also were made aware of the sermon topic. It just so happened that ‘this’ was the topic of the day. You simply delivered your message based on Biblical principal. At no point did you target the Senator in your message or for that matter acknowledge her specifically with the subject. In all actuality, you did not make ‘adultery’ the focus of your message, but rather the beauty of ‘commitment’ in a relationship to Christ as well as in marriage. Kudos to you not only for speaking the truth but not altering your congregations plans in worship of the Lord. You are a humble and godly man and the Lord will always be your defense.
To Senator Clinton – thank you for attending the service. You were very much a blessing and it was a very special day in the life of the church to have such a special guest. You were poised and you acted professional and personable in every manner. You were nothing but gracious. I do pray God’s blessings over you and His will in all you do.
To Hillary supporters – this was not an attack on the Senator … quite the opposite. Please do not believe that an attack is what happened. On the contrary, I believe that the Senator was warmly and lovingly greeted from the moment she arrived until the moment she departed. Don’t believe the spin.
To bloggers taking this moment to slam another human being or make a comment based on events where you were not present – Stop! No minister ever attacked Hillary about adultery, at no time did the Senator sit uncomfortably. Please quit jumping on a bandwagon that does not exist.
To Eloise Harper – You are in an occupation expected to dig up dirt, bring about buzz, relive old news if it still has some bite, and frankly write articles that make a name for yourself. Simply put – you achieved your goal. But not by reporting truths. I am unclear of only one thing … exactly who are you spinning for? ABC News? Another campaign? The Hillary campaign? After all you were a part of the Clinton press team allowed in the building … that truth is still out there. Anyway, concerning your mistruths … the worship service, not the sermon was an hour. The sermon was only ten minutes long. It was a short, to the point soliloquy with past, present, community and personal examples of real life, the struggle of marriage and the grace of a God that surpasses all human flaws. You chose to write a story in poor taste attacking not only an innocent woman, but also an innocent pastor.

All women who abort deserve to get gang raped by a pack of marauding n!ggers on the rampage — all wearing sandpaper condoms ! ! ! die, feminazis, die! die! die!

I was also present in this morning’s worship service – “No Spin’s” comments are accurate and I am in complete agreement.

Hillary didn’t forgive Bill, she defended him, she organized attacks on the women who honestly, and correctly reported on Bill’s activities. If not for the DNA evidence left behind, Monica would have been murdered or committed. Ask Vince Foster if Hillary was forgiving.
Oh, you can’t. He somehow shot himself with his right hand, with his thumb on the trigger, while being left handed, with an illegal and untraceable gun.

“Clinton Sits Through Sermon About Adultery”
Who cares? What a meaningless story.

The Clinton’s are just trailer trash. Who cares anymore?

you people are annoyign you love obama and is juust sick you couoldnt be any more bist why are you like this

still better than a hatefilled rev. Wright sermon!!!

The guy is a fat pig.

Setting the record straight …
I had the absolute privilege of being present during the infamous worship service attended by Sen. Clinton today and I want everyone to know the truth of the matter.
To Pastor Fryman – You were in the middle of a ‘verse by verse’ sermon series your congregation had been studying for several months on Christ’s sermon on the mount found in the book of Matthew. You had planned this sermon weeks ago and had no advance warning of the Senator’s arrival. In fact, you were only contacted by the Secret Service about the Senator’s arrival on Saturday evening which is the same time they also were made aware of the sermon topic. It just so happened that ‘this’ was the topic of the day. You simply delivered your message based on Biblical principal. At no point did you target the Senator in your message or for that matter acknowledge her specifically with the subject. In all actuality, you did not make ‘adultery’ the focus of your message, but rather the beauty of ‘commitment’ in a relationship to Christ as well as in marriage. Kudos to you not only for speaking the truth but not altering your congregations plans in worship of the Lord. You are a humble and godly man and the Lord will always be your defense.
To Senator Clinton – thank you for attending the service. You were very much a blessing and it was a very special day in the life of the church to have such a special guest. You were poised and you acted professional and personable in every manner. You were nothing but gracious. I do pray God’s blessings over you and His will in all you do.
To Hillary supporters – this was not an attack on the Senator … quite the opposite. Please do not believe that an attack is what happened. On the contrary, I believe that the Senator was warmly and lovingly greeted from the moment she arrived until the moment she departed. Don’t believe the spin.
To bloggers taking this moment to slam another human being or make a comment based on events where you were not present – Stop! No minister ever attacked Hillary about adultery, at no time did the Senator sit uncomfortably. Please quit jumping on a bandwagon that does not exist.
To Eloise Harper – You are in an occupation expected to dig up dirt, bring about buzz, relive old news if it still has some bite, and frankly write articles that make a name for yourself. Simply put – you achieved your goal. But not by reporting truths. I am unclear of only one thing … exactly who are you spinning for? ABC News? Another campaign? The Hillary campaign? After all you were a part of the Clinton press team allowed in the building … that truth is still out there. Anyway, concerning your mistruths … the worship service, not the sermon was an hour. The sermon was only ten minutes long. It was a short, to the point soliloquy with past, present, community and personal examples of real life, the struggle of marriage and the grace of a God that surpasses all human flaws. You chose to write a story in poor taste attacking not only an innocent woman, but also an innocent pastor.

Okay, surely this Minister knew Clinton would be attending this service, so what’s up with the anti-adultery sermon on the day she attends? That was a tacky cheap shot. Shame on you, Minister! For the record, I am not a Clinton supporter.

THIS STORY IS RELEVANT BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO THE COMPACT BETWEEN BILL AND HILLARY.SHE WOULD STAND BY HIM AND HE WOULD HELP HER TO BECOME PRESIDENT.SHE MADE THE DEAL WITH THE DEVIL AND LOST.IT IS TIME TO TURN THE PAGE ON THIS SO CALLED COUPLE.ODDLY SHE SPEAKS ABOUT HER FAITH GETTING HER THROUGH THE MONICA ORDEAL.BUT DOESNT MENTION FAITH WITH JENIFER FLOWERS AND THE OTHERS.PROBABLY BECAUSE SHE WAS TOO BUSY SENDING HER ATTACK DOGS OUT TO RUN THEM THROUGH THE MUD

I agree with Kris in AL. What will Hillary tolerate from enemies of America?! We need strong leadership in this day and age. Terrorist are still at large. Wake up America!

I have always wondered why the Democratic Party idolizes women who passively stay with husbands who are well known philanderers.
Jackie O…Hillary
Gotta love those “vast right wing conspiracies”.
I bet Michelle Obama would never take that crap.

So what. Same story, different day.

So what. Same story, different day.

If I had a affair my wife would never say a word about it. My wife has a .45 automatic. Nuff said.
I don’t care if Bill Clinton had an affair. None of my business except that a kid shouldn’t have to learn the definition of ‘adultery’ by hearing a news story about his president.
I do care that Bill allowed sensitive military information to get in the hands of Chinese businessmen who made sizable donations to his campaign. Those are the same Chinese businessmen that contributed to Hillary’s campaign.
The whole scandal about Monica was a smoke screen to get attention off of the sale of military information. It worked. Few people today remember that sale.

Hillary’s downfall was, in part, a result of her presumptuous arrogance, which asserted that she was somehow predestined – a “shoo-in” – to be the nominee.
Also, invoking the perception of her husband’s popularity. Alot of people were disgusted by the shenanigans in one of this country’s most venerated edifices.
I think moral integrity is a prerequisite for the job and Mr. Clinton is certainly lacking thereof….

Who preaches for an hour?

Why would anyone sit thru any sermon on any thing by anyone.If the world is still that christan dumb,than we in a sick mess.

For JR
Barney Frank

Someone said that Bill Clinton put the word SURPLUS into our lives. What surplus? He was the one who had the surplus. Women that is!!!

It sounds as if No Spin is the only one who might bt right in this whole mess. Why are all of the writers agaist a minister? It would appear that No Spin just might be right. It would be easy to check and if No Spin is right, leave things alone OR is this another Obama minister political thing?

Bill has his women on the side….Hillary has her women on the side…why would this faze her…she has a seared conscience.

I thought this article was going to be about Bill… It’s just not the same if it’s about Hillary.
This is not newsworthy.
If it was Bill, on the other hand, it would have been interesting to read about his reaction to it. He probably would bite his upper lip and shake his head in agreement while making sure everyone noticed.

Ironic, had she divorced him, she’d be the democratic nominee right now… He did a fine job of imploding her chances – the more he spoke, the more she lost…

I’m glad Hillary got some time. Or at least took some time to focus on what is more important than her desire to be president. And that is her relationship with God. She will need that relationship much more than anything else in the days ahead.
I hope the word causes true repentance.

What Hillary has created by continuing to campaign is a no win situation for the democrats. What will all of the Hillary supporters that will feel misled and abandoned when she drops out or fails to get the nomination do? The same thing for all the Obama supporters what will they do when or if the nomination goes to Clinton. While it is a sad comment I believe there will again be a needless race discussion. There will inevitably be a portion of the country that will feel slighted.

You won’t find many who are more conservative than me and chances are I will vote republican in 2008. That said, I think this is a non-issue. First, if you go to church long enough, sooner or later you will hear a sermon on the subject of adultery – or an issue that hits close to home. If you don’t the pastor is probably not doing his job.
Second, this happened more than 10 years ago. I would hope that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton had put things behiind them. If God is willing to forgive individuals for the sin of adultery, certainly Mrs. Clinton should be willing to forgive Mr. Clinton for his transgressions.

America learn to forgive and that is what the Bible has been saying from Genesis to Revelations. Thus if only you duly consider youselves a “Christian Nation”. How long can you dwell in the past. Hillary endured the pain and agony dury those trying times. She chose and did the Godly thing by forgiving him so should everybody talking about. We are the Pharasees.

Here are a few words from someone who is a member of State Street UMC in Bowling Green and heard the sermon and also saw the disruption that Clinton’s entourage made during our otherwise normal worshipful experience for a Sunday morning. It is beyond me how the media can twist and turn things around to make it sound the way they want and, furthermore, more troubling how we as a society can just scoop it up and run with it! To set the record straight, our church did not hear of Senator Clinton’s scheduled attendance until later on Saturday afternoon (17th). The sermon was already prepared, bulletins were already printed, so her attendance did not change the order of our service. No disrespect to Sen. Clinton, but as the saying goes…”the show must go on”. and “NO”, our service is not a “show” (before this gets twisted around). She was actually informed of the topic of the sermon and from my understanding, she was fine with it. Even though I am not in favor of Sen. Clinton’s campaign, I have to say she carried herself well and was very gracious. She participated in our service and was very respectful to our congregation. On the other hand, her entourage and media crew were not. I and others of our church were appalled at how the news media in her group disrespected the Lord’s house and the service as a whole. Cameramen and a huge boom mic took over one side of the front of our church and the entourage sat in front of our congregation with their Blackberry’s & laptops out, discussing their strategies over their shoulders for all to see. Maybe had they been paying closer attention to the sermon instead of bits and pieces of it, they may have actually given the public an accurate account of the sermon topic, which was more on how we should take Matthew 5:27 and apply it to our marriages. Instead, they have twisted it to look like our Pastor intentionally chose this sermon to poke daggers at Sen. Clinton, as if she hasn’t already been through enough with the media’s coverage of her husband’s past actions. Isn’t it time to give it a rest? So, Ms. Harper, you may want to make sure you listen more closely next time before putting your name on such nonsense.

Donpa’s comments are right on target!

I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton. Obama is the first candidate for anything I have ever donated money to and I will be supporting however I can in the general election.
But I am also a preacher.
And if I saw Mrs. Clinton in my congregation on Sunday morning and had a sermon prepared on adultery, I would have switched sermons, right now.
I don’t kick helpless puppies, either.

I can’t help but ask myself one simple questions.
Why is this news?
It is really scary how overwhelmed people in this country are with politics and hate — some of you have no idea how irrational you sound. Every Sunday pastors and preachers all over the world talk about sin. Every person in the world who attends these sermons commit sin. Yet we want to single out an instance of “What Not To Do…” and argue and fight about it. I’m no fan of the Clintons or the Obamas but Jesus Christ people — get over yourselves, you sound pathetic — I thought we were supposed to move on.

I need to take a moment to defend the pastor of this church, but first I’d like to preface my comments by saying that I myself am a member of the media as a photojournalist.
I am offended on behalf of the family and the pastor at the church that the sermon which he delivered Sunday has been construed as a jab at the Clinton family. I am not a particular fan of Hillary as president, but I know the pastor of State Street United Methodist Church, and he was not directing anything at her about adultery. The fact is, the pastor has been doing a series of sermons for the past several weeks on the Sermon on the Mount. It just so happened that this Sunday’s sermon topic was “The importance of and commitment of marriage.” I am ashamed that news organizations have focused in on the word “adultery” – which only was mentioned in the sermon once, and as a quotation from the Bible – and made it out that the pastor was trying to point a finger at the Clintons or “make them feel guilt or remorse” for anything that has happened between them. The pastor even pointed out as he took the lectern that this was part of an ongoing series, not specifically chosen for this Sunday. He was not made aware of Hillary’s visit until Saturday afternoon, at which point he had no time to write a new sermon or select a new topic.
Oh, and it was not an “hour-long” sermon, but the typical half hour. Please don’t make me regret being a journalist by your sensationalism.

Well, thie comments here certainly portray the christian belief of forgiveness. It totally amazes me that christians can preach one thing and do another. I am a christian, and I do belive in forgiveness, if we cannot forgive our fellow man–how can we expect God to forgive us. Quit criticizing her for forgiving her husband. No matter what a political canidate does or does not do–someone will have something negative to say. This is just a very negative society.

Awkward!

From Political Radar:When things couldn’t be looking worse for Sen. Hillary Clinton’s bid for the presidency in 2008, as her rival Barack Obama closes in on gaining enough delegates to secure the nomination, the former first lady attended a church

A husband is family.

They’re both going to burn in Hell for breaking at least eight other Commandmants…maybe nine.

I am an Obama supporter. But one of the things I highly admire Hillary Clinton for is her decision and struggle to do what is not easy for a lot of people in similar circumstances. Yes, most people are proned to give up on marriage for something much less serious. But Hillary learned to forgive such a hedious violation to a marital covenant by her husband. It takes a person of character to do that. I know a lot of people try to ascribe reasons that are crass for her decision. But no one knows that. Give the woman her due.
Bell

The reason she stayed with him, is the REAL reason TRUE feminist have turned THEIR backs on her. She doesn’t at all represent the philosophy of being it means to be a feminist…..And sorry folks, just being a woman doesn’t cut it. I, myself, supported at first because she is a woman. I later dropped my support b/c I can’t remember when in the hell I last advanced in life because of my gender. I’ve never gotten anyplace b/c of my parents status, some guy I married, or any other reason. I got where I am b/c of other factors. So, let her get her come uppance the same way as the rest of us….
BTW many of us recognize she’d be doing a hell of a great deal better had she dumped that jerk(Bill). Now, it just looks like she held onto him for political gain, that simply doesn’t fly….

Realistic: We in the GOP looked AT THE RECORDS of each of the candidates AND WE FOUND THAT JOHN McCAIN HAD THE MOST CONSERVATIVE VOTING RECORD AND THAT IS WHY WE CHOSE HIM.
If you are really a Republican, please check into his ACTUAL RECORD until you are satisfied.
I hope that you realize that there are GREAT NUMBERS of Ron Paul supporters and Obama supporters WHO ARE POISONING THE WELL against John McCain by saying the exact same thing that you are saying.
Suddenly, every thread has posters who CLAIM to be Republicans who CLAIM that they are suddenly voting for THE MOST LEFTIST MEMBER OF THE SENATE. Why?? Why would ANY Republican vote for the most liberal member of the Senate? Why? How dumb do they think we are that we would believe such nonsense?

I would give a million dollars to know Hillary’s thoughts as she “stared straight ahead during the sermon.”
Yikes, talk about tough (the sermon AND her)–it would seem the sermon-giver was just a bit callous and insensitive as he preached to the choir.

Bill Clinton has always been a cheater when governor of Arkansas and as President. Hillary is in love with power and she will not let that go. When Bill is of no further use he will be gone too.

Must be a slow news day.

It is time for Hillary to cry like a little girl again.She needs a pacifier.

I am an Obama supporter and I find no reason to hold her up to ridicule for something that her husband did.
I am sure she bleeds when you cut her just like the rest of us do, she just refuses to let anyone see it.
Let’s get over the personal attacks politics and get on with healing our nation.

She is a professional politician!! She will let nothing stand in her way, including honesty, intergrity or morality.

The comments on this article are stunning to say the least, and yet all I can do is… Yawn.

TCR:
TENANTS ARE PEOPLE WHO RENT PROPERTY!
WHEN SPEAKING OF “FAITH” THE WORD IS TENETS!
choses isn’t even a word; the word is chooses.
disingenuine is not a word; perhaps you mean disingenuous.
anyone IS, not anyone ARE. The subject is singular.
You said, “Anyone that choses to call him or herself christian and doesn’t follow all the tenants of that faith are just picking out the parts they like and ignoring the rest.”
Word-smithing would render it as follows:
“Anyone who calls himself or herself a Christian, yet chooses not to follow the tenets of the faith, is merely picking out the parts they like and ignoring the rest.”
Pronouns have a purpose, as do articles, and tenses, and punctuation. And please stop using ‘that” when referring to humans. Please use “who” or “whom.”
Anyone who (not that, we are not objects, we are humans) calls himself or herself (uniformity) a Christian (capitalize) yet chooses (not choses, there is no such word) not to follow (remove “all” redundant) the tenets (not tenants, human renters are not principles of religion) of the (article of faith, not ownership) faith, IS (not are, the subject is singular not plural) merely (better choice than “just”) picking out the parts they like and ignoring the rest.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST SPELL-CHECK?
There are periods and commas and colons and semi-colons (needed after your first religion) and ellipses and all sorts of “marks” that make our missives easier to understand.
You (imperiously) decided that I have no talking points. Since are not able to identify “talking points” I will list some of them for you (there are many handbooks (Bedford, McGraw-Hill, Strunk, etc.) that could help you learn to manage such tasks. They are not expensive.
(a) Point a is SPELLING (is a point).
(b) Point b is GRAMMAR (is a point).
(c) Point c is ARROGANCE (is a point).
(d) Point d is LACK OF COMPASSION (is a point).
(e) Point e is IRREVERENCE (is a point).
(f) Point f is FAILURE TO ERR TO KINDNESS (is a point).
“I do question your mental capacity.”
That is really an obnoxious statement. I clearly write, and spell at a sufficient level (and clearly superior to you). The fact that you do not acknowledge your heavy errors (such as the ridiculous use of “TENANTS” (people who rent land) are the same as TENETS of faith seems to be a serious personal problem.
That I took offense at silverlady INSULTING THE ENTIRE GROUP was not reason enough for you to insert yourself into the exchange.
You took it upon yourself to instruct ME as to the “tenets” (not tenants) of my faith. So I must ask, how many years of instruction have you had in my faith?
At any rate, that you lectured me on DARING to criticize silverlady (whom you believe is correct) (or perhaps YOU are silverlady using a different name). Your spelling is similar and your arrogance, tendency to blame, and lack of compassion are the same.
You are of the belief that it is hunky-dory if silverlady INSULTS EVERYONE but I must not call her on her broad-brushed approach to criticism.
You are of the belief that I must “forgive” everyone, but silverlady does not need to forgive anyone, even if they are merely exercising their right to hold an opinion.
You are of the belief that I must “forgive” everyone (or that “my” g-d will rain down punishment on me), but YOU do not have to forgive me.
You are allowed to condemn me, and silverlady can condemn everyone else, yet I cannot criticize your condemnation!
I am commanded to forgive all, even murderers, yet you do not have to forgive ME for saying something that offends YOU.
According to you, you hold special dispensation!!! You are allowed to judge, nag, lecture, harangue, and condemn. Yet, you do not have to forgive. How convenient for you. I am not allowed to renounce silverlady on her nasty condemnation of everyone (INCLUDING THE INNOCENT). Furthermore, I am not allowed to cross you at all, or suffer the wrath of your indignation.
I am TOLD ( by you) that I MUST FORGIVE EVERYONE AND AT ALL TIMES (INCLUDING A HYPOTHETICAL MURDERER OF A SPOUSE) or suffer the wrath of G-d and the loss of faith, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FORGIVE MY DISAGREEING WITH YOU!!!
You of all people, are allowed to NOT FORGIVE! You are allowed to hold a grudge (or merely cast aspersions and/or punishment and move on). According to you, I must forgive all, or suffer “having my faith withhold” but you do not have to forgive anyone. I guess the next question is, who died and made you G-d?

If you even look at a person with lust in your heart, you’ve already committed Adultery according to God!. As far as Hillary going to church, more power to her!. Now!, if she starts talking politics in church, how can she or any other Democrat,(with an ounce of dignity) say “OH look at the Republicans using religion to gain votes!!”. Yes Bill cheated on her. How many times? I can’t count that high!. As far as Sermon’s lifting anyone up, The Bible speaks of sin’s, happiness, love, honor etc.. So a sermon on thing’s you SHOULD NOT DO, that may make you feel uncomfortable, is quite ok according to GOD!.

Talk about pathetic. No matter how much you people bicker and hate any candidate, your opinions will not change the results of this election. Why be so passionately argumentative?

Adultery is not a sin in the USA where Gay and Lesbians marry so leave courageous Hillary alone!

Many of you commented how brave Ms Hillery is in going to face the sermon. Going and facing is a bit difficult but not so much a living it. I wonder if she knew what the message was about if she would have showed up. I would rather be a hipocrit and go then to not go at all. The churches are for the sick in heart not for those who are well.None of us will really know if ms C really has forgiven Willie of not. However there will be a time when we all will stand naked before Creator God. The books will be opened and the truth will come out. I have forgiven folks because i am commanded to by the Savior. But i still remember. Tear down the walls in your own life before you peek over into hers or any bodys.